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00:01:35.000 can't rule out North Korean strike, Rumsfeld Advisor says.

00:01:42.000 This from Reuters.

00:01:43.000 They say that, yes, we leaked the battle plan two months ago to invade North Korea this October.

00:01:52.000 My, this is an underreported story.

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00:02:09.000 And you knew this was going to happen.

00:02:11.000 I said this on Monday with the monkey pox.

00:02:13.000 I said, watch, they're going to claim that the smallpox shot will help you with the monkey pox.

00:02:19.000 And they couldn't get the public to take it.

00:02:21.000 99% plus of the medical workers, firemen, police officers refused the smallpox shot.

00:02:28.000 But now they say monkey pox might spread everywhere.

00:02:32.000 It's now up to 60-something cases.

00:02:36.000 Well, you just might have to have that smallpox shot after all.

00:02:40.000 Of course, the government launched the anthrax attack.

00:02:43.000 They got caught doing it.

00:02:44.000 Most weaponized form ever seen.

00:02:46.000 The White House was on Cipro, the drug that fights it, four weeks before it showed up.

00:02:51.000 And all of a sudden we have Wes Nile a few years ago popping up that was given to Saddam. 0.90

00:02:55.000 That's admitted, being blamed on him.

00:02:58.000 We have the SARS right on time.

00:03:00.000 Just all this, all these little primers for the big bio attack and how we're supposed to behave when it happens and all these big top-off terror drills training us to give up our liberty. 0.89

00:03:10.000 So we'll get into U.S.

00:03:11.000 urges smallpox vaccine to protect you from monkeypox exposure.

00:03:18.000 So you knew that was coming.

00:03:19.000 It wasn't hard to predict that.

00:03:21.000 And here it is.

00:03:23.000 Stock loses.

00:03:25.000 ...value over the last few years and has culled the millionaires' ranks.

00:03:30.000 Survey says U.S.

00:03:31.000 and Canada have 100,000 fewer millionaires in 2002 despite increase in global wealth.

00:03:39.000 Well, yeah.

00:03:41.000 Americans had half the world's wealth just 10 years ago.

00:03:43.000 Now we have about 40% of the world's wealth.

00:03:46.000 And it's going bye-bye into the European banks' hands.

00:03:52.000 Well, we've had this little rally in the stock market, and it's just that.

00:03:55.000 It's a little rally to train you to stay in.

00:03:57.000 The next drop will go below $7,000.

00:03:59.000 That's my prediction.

00:04:02.000 Also, U.S.

00:04:03.000 widens checks at foreign ports.

00:04:05.000 We'll get into that whitewash.

00:04:06.000 We'll get into the announcement of the need to go ahead and invade Iran, not just North Korea and Syria. 0.94

00:04:12.000 Saying Iranian nuclear experts visited North Korea, report says.

00:04:16.000 Yeah, but who gave them the nuclear reactors?

00:04:19.000 Donald Rumsfeld, the guy that's saying they need to be attacked now.

00:04:22.000 Who gave Saddam the chemical and biologicals in the 80s? 0.73

00:04:25.000 According to the Senate report by Republicans in 94.

00:04:28.000 Donald Rumsfeld, he's the bag man for the globalists when it comes to weapons of mass destruction.

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00:04:36.000 rejects U.S.

00:04:37.000 plans of regime change in Iran, saying not yet.

00:04:40.000 But they said that before.

00:04:41.000 Of course, they'll be shown lots of evidence and decide it's good.

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00:09:03.000 We'll be going to Mike in Florida and others that have been holding patiently here in just a few minutes.

00:09:08.000 But I have to remember that a lot of our stations carry the news in the first five-minute segment, so it's always kind of a recap coming out of the eight-after break.

00:09:18.000 So let me detail some of the top stories, and then I will start getting into your calls.

00:09:22.000 And we have Aaron Zellman, founder and president of Jews and Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

00:09:29.000 uh... one of the largest alternative second amendment groups out there he also has concerned citizens opposed to police states to give us his insight into what the new world order is up to and what they're doing and the uh... commie nazi tactics they are deploying against the american people and the people of the world but i said on monday it was coming i said folks you just know they're going to say that Because of the monkey pox outbreak in the Midwest, supposedly originating in Texas, where I sit, that now they're going to need to, well, go ahead and give you a small pox shot, that'll keep you safe.

00:10:13.000 You see, 99 plus percent, 99.9, I haven't done the math, Of the medical workers, firemen, policemen have refused the smallpox shot.

00:10:25.000 Remember last year they said, yeah, we want the states to pass the model states health emergency powers act where all the health workers and police have to take it.

00:10:33.000 Most of the states refused.

00:10:35.000 It had martial law provisions in it, gun confiscation provisions.

00:10:39.000 It came out in the newspapers.

00:10:41.000 People said no.

00:10:42.000 A few states did pass it.

00:10:44.000 And so what developed from that point?

00:10:46.000 Well, they just put it in page 76 of Homeland Security.

00:10:50.000 And they said, you don't have to take the shot as a fireman, a police officer, a medical worker, a doctor, an ambulance driver, or paramedic, but you won't be able to have a job, you won't be insured if you don't do it.

00:11:03.000 So they tried to pressure the hospitals through policy to do it.

00:11:07.000 A bunch of top epidemiologists and others at major universities and medical centers said the smallpox shot is dangerous, it doesn't protect you from weaponized smallpox, Smallpox is not generally airborne, it's hard to catch, it's not like the flu or the cold bug, and they said there's no reason because of risk analysis to do this.

00:11:28.000 And so the plan fell apart.

00:11:32.000 Then they told medical workers, and I've seen the articles and actually seen the memos they've been given from Idaho to Texas where they've offered them, double the pay to forcibly inject you, and guess what?

00:11:43.000 They don't even have to take the shots.

00:11:46.000 And some of them are taking the money in the quote training seminars, thousands of dollars they're paid, just to go learn for a few hours how to administer the jab.

00:11:56.000 They just scratch the skin 15 to 30 times.

00:12:00.000 They just stick a blunt needle into your arm with the smallpox virus on it.

00:12:07.000 So this is great news that people are not taking it.

00:12:10.000 And I'm sad that 1 in 1,000, according to MSNBC, have died from the shot.

00:12:15.000 1 in 1,500 have had a heart attack.

00:12:18.000 And there's only been 296 medical workers and police that have taken it in the 10 largest cities, according to the LA Times, the Associated Press reported.

00:12:27.000 And I know I talk about this a lot, because it's such good news, that in Connecticut, one article talked about they ordered 20,000 health care workers and police to show up to get shots in a two-day period.

00:12:38.000 Four people showed up.

00:12:41.000 So, again, I haven't done the specific math, but if you've got 20,000 people and 4 people show up to get the shot in one state, Connecticut, I mean, that's 99.999 something.

00:12:54.000 If you've got the 10 largest cities with millions they wanted to vaccinate, with the medical workers, the firemen, the police, millions of people in the 10 largest cities, Well, they refused.

00:13:07.000 296 did it.

00:13:09.000 So, somebody can calculate the math on this, but it's 99.9 something are refusing.

00:13:17.000 So I said, people said, well what is SARS all about?

00:13:20.000 Well, the Toronto Star said it best.

00:13:22.000 It is the UN fear-mongering trying to get more funding, trying to expand global big pharma health department type powers.

00:13:34.000 And the SARS thing has really just been a scare tactic.

00:13:38.000 And then we have the West Nile scaring people. 1.00

00:13:41.000 We have now the monkey pox.

00:13:43.000 We have suspicious letters.

00:13:46.000 Now we find out, mailed from the CIA, a hundred million dollar piece of equipment that produces this micro-fine anthrax.

00:13:56.000 It's an advanced U.S.

00:13:57.000 recipe, coated in bentonite.

00:14:00.000 And it's traced back to Fort Detrick, and they have a congressional study of how to mail this stuff.

00:14:04.000 And again, Bush is on Cipro, the anthrax-fighting antibiotic, on September 10th with his cabinet.

00:14:11.000 The White House Press Secretary even admitted this.

00:14:14.000 And so it's just incredible.

00:14:17.000 You can see who's behind all this.

00:14:20.000 In fact, the Congress wasn't going to pass the Patriot Act, but suddenly most of the Capitol was shut down under anthrax attack.

00:14:26.000 Five of the six office buildings, so-called Federal Protective Services, were in the building at the time interrogating Congressmen and women trying to find out who leaked information about prior knowledge.

00:14:37.000 That kind of shut that story down real quick.

00:14:40.000 And then I predict on Monday that they would say, oh, you need to take the smallpox shot.

00:14:44.000 It'll protect you from the monkeypox that just, first cases ever, shows up right on time.

00:14:49.000 Stinks to high heaven.

00:14:52.000 This is out of Reuters, out of Chicago. 0.61

00:14:54.000 U.S.

00:14:54.000 urges smallpox vaccine for monkeypox exposure.

00:14:58.000 U.S.

00:14:59.000 health authorities on Wednesday recommended smallpox vaccinations for anyone exposed to monkeypox, either from infected pets or from the roughly 63 human cases.

00:15:11.000 All but one in the U.S.

00:15:13.000 Midwest.

00:15:14.000 government also banned the importation or trade of African rodents, including Gambian rats, believed to be the original source of the smallpox-like illness previously unseen in the Western Hemisphere, said David Fleming, Deputy Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

00:15:14.000 The U.S.

00:15:32.000 I'm confident everything that can be done is being done to prevent the spread Fleming told a reporter, citing efforts to track down and euthanize infected animals.

00:15:42.000 A similar ban was placed on the sale and transportation of prairie dogs, a rodent native to the Great Plains that the African rats are believed to have infected, and which in turn trade the virus to humans through bites or scratches.

00:15:56.000 And it says several states affected, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, and supposedly it came from Texas.

00:16:04.000 They won't say where exactly.

00:16:08.000 They've listed one pet store, but now they think it's another pet store.

00:16:11.000 They're not sure.

00:16:13.000 Look, I want people to understand something here.

00:16:19.000 I'm going to shift gears into another subject, but it ties together with this.

00:16:24.000 I have seen from Austin hospitals the death certificates from family members of people who died from spongiform encephalopathy, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, or BSE.

00:16:39.000 The Kreutzfeldt-Jacobs.

00:16:41.000 All the different terms and diagnoses they give it.

00:16:44.000 But it said Kreutzfeldt-Jacobs, BSE, N-Humans, spongiiform encephalopathy.

00:16:51.000 They said it on the paper I have seen.

00:16:54.000 And I've heard other stories out of Austin.

00:16:57.000 We've had guests gone who've had family members who have died.

00:17:00.000 And the hospital listed it refused to do an autopsy because the crystals, the prion crystals will get on the metal instruments, they have to be burned because of liability, the entire hospital room is contaminated.

00:17:13.000 This stuff is that bad!

00:17:17.000 And they've kept it quiet, they've kept the story shut down.

00:17:20.000 It came out three weeks ago that they found mad cow and some cows and then three or four herds in two different provinces of Canada, including Saskatchewan, Then the Belling's Gazette reported that part of the herd had been brought to the U.S., the feds were swarming around, and the story shut down just like that.

00:17:41.000 I mean, with the snap of the fingers, this thing just got shut down.

00:17:47.000 So, why am I bringing this up with monkeypox and all the rest of this?

00:17:52.000 If the Centers for Disease Control doesn't want you to know about an outbreak, you won't know about it.

00:18:00.000 It'll be in a medical journal a year later.

00:18:02.000 Okay, that's what the gatekeepers, the editors, and people do.

00:18:07.000 They get calls all the time and get told to shut up, to not talk to the press, the AMA will call people, the board of directors of hospitals that are all in the federal dole will get a call.

00:18:16.000 If they didn't want you to know about this monkey pox, you wouldn't know about it. 0.99

00:18:24.000 They're doing this to fearmonger and saying maybe everybody needs to take the smallpox shot so they'll be safe.

00:18:31.000 Because if they don't want you to know about something, you won't.

00:18:33.000 Do you know what the number one epidemic in the U.S.

00:18:35.000 now is?

00:18:36.000 Emerging epidemic?

00:18:38.000 At least 80,000 cases a year now of untreatable or drug-resistant tuberculosis.

00:18:44.000 And that's a number I got a year ago that was out of one of the medical wires online.

00:18:51.000 They've already set up modern sanitariums.

00:18:54.000 They've already set up modern places where you are locked in a room and have your food slid under the door and you shower in there and you're not allowed to leave it.

00:19:03.000 With tuberculosis.

00:19:03.000 Okay?

00:19:05.000 You know what the number one cause of death in Russia is now under the age of 50?

00:19:08.000 After that it's heart attacks and cancer.

00:19:11.000 It is drug resistant or drug immune, immune TB.

00:19:16.000 Mexico's got it pouring in.

00:19:17.000 Your kids are sitting next to illegals from Russia and Poland and Mexico and China. 1.00

00:19:21.000 When your kid gets tuberculosis, it won't be in the newspaper.

00:19:26.000 Okay?

00:19:28.000 80,000 cases a year of this now.

00:19:30.000 It is exploding.

00:19:32.000 And you do see a few news articles, but it's isolated regionally about how bad things have gotten.

00:19:38.000 They put you in one of these jail cells for a parking ticket or something, or not paying your fines.

00:19:43.000 A lot of you are getting into these jails.

00:19:46.000 Or some, you know, diseased rhino has been coughing tuberculosis all over the walls.

00:19:54.000 So, just know this.

00:19:55.000 If they didn't want you to hear about SARS, you wouldn't.

00:19:58.000 If they didn't want you to hear about monkeypox, you wouldn't.

00:20:02.000 Anything they promote is for fear-mongering purposes.

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00:25:07.000 Right now, let's talk to Mike in Florida.

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00:25:12.000 Pretty good, sir.

00:25:13.000 Well, I had three things I really wanted to point out.

00:25:15.000 First thing is I was watching this past Monday on V & Combs and they had a guest on who was debating the pros and cons of going to war with Iraq.

00:25:24.000 And as the argument ended, the gentleman who was the guest asked Sean Hannity if he believed that it was a good thing that we gave weapons to Iraq and gave them training in the 80s and helped them and nurtured them for all these times.

00:25:35.000 And Sean Hannity basically came out and said, yes, I think it was a good idea.

00:25:41.000 Did he ask, was it a good idea to have April Gillespie, U.S. 1.00

00:25:46.000 Ambassador, on orders from George Herbert Walker Bush to tell Saddam to go ahead and invade Kuwait one week before he did it?

00:25:54.000 No, I don't think he covered that, but I did see that he had an add-up in some paper of the picture of, I believe it was Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam Hussein back in the 80s, or Dick Cheney, one of the guys, whoever it was.

00:26:06.000 No, it was Rumsfeld, and there's a photo from an 83 meeting.

00:26:09.000 He was also there in 84.

00:26:11.000 He was the liaison for the chemical and biological weapons. 0.84

00:26:15.000 That is part of a Republican senatorial report.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, I mean, it just, to me, it was... Sir, do you know who gave the nuclear reactors that could produce, according to the Associated Press and the Federation for American Scientists, 100 nuclear bombs, warheads a year?

00:26:32.000 Donald Rumsfeld in 1997 and 8. 0.51

00:26:34.000 It was Clinton that got all the blame, and obviously he allowed it to happen, he's a traitor, and a sniveling, gun-grabbing socialist, but it was Rumsfeld doing the dirty deed itself, as usual. 0.95

00:26:47.000 Oh, very true. 0.96

00:26:48.000 And speaking of Donald Rumsfeld, I'm glad you brought that point up.

00:26:50.000 Another thing I was going to mention was that I recently saw an article where Donald Rumsfeld was talking, like you said, of preemptively invading Iran, saying that they may soon have nuclear weapons.

00:26:59.000 Sir, they've already announced they're going to start transmission sometime next month.

00:27:04.000 Broadcasting, radio and TV, taking over Iranian television and TV.

00:27:08.000 Broadcasting in, telling their people to overthrow the government.

00:27:12.000 They have leaked the plan publicly two months ago to start bombing preemptively North Korea in October.

00:27:19.000 Kim Jong Il has disappeared underground and may launch a preemptive strike.

00:27:24.000 Uh, they're trying to push that psychopath to do something after they gave him the nukes.

00:27:30.000 You see how this works?

00:27:32.000 Well, the thing that gets me about that is, like I was saying about Rumsfeld, is that, uh, you know, he just recently said this, but I've looked for reports from the BBC from 2002 of, uh, I'm saying that the British company DTI was selling nuclear parts to Iran already.

00:27:32.000 Yes, sir.

00:27:46.000 Yeah, and so did the US, and that's in Police State 3 total enslavement.

00:27:51.000 We show how they arm North Korea, how they arm Iraq, how they arm Iran, how they arm Syria. 0.67

00:27:57.000 This is what they do.

00:27:58.000 It's like the old Western, where the bad corrupt sheriff who works for the railroad wants to take the family's land, And he's already killed the 10-year-old or 12-year-old boy's father in trying to take the land that's got the gold on it.

00:28:16.000 And the 12-year-old comes out, and the sheriff throws a gun down and says, go ahead, pick it up, boy, pick it up.

00:28:21.000 Thanks for the call.

00:28:23.000 When that kid picks that gun up, the sheriff's got the quick draw and fills him full of holes.

00:28:28.000 Let's talk to Larry in Indiana.

00:28:30.000 Larry, you're on the air.

00:28:31.000 Go ahead.

00:28:31.000 Alex, I heard you talking about Oh, with Craig Roberts yesterday, and I think that was a very good topic, even though some might consider that ethereal.

00:28:42.000 It's important to know that you do have to do something, even if the odds look like they're against you.

00:28:49.000 The way I read the Bible, you know, we may not win this, especially if we don't wake enough people up, but you've got to know that even though the odds are against you, you've still got to defend your family.

00:28:58.000 You still have to try, because you are going to answer for what you do.

00:29:04.000 I also wanted to thank you for staying pretty much on topic. 0.89

00:29:08.000 There's a lot of hosts that are letting topics of aliens and, you know, a million Chinese robotoids come across the air, and it's important to maintain credibility and not let patriots look like idiots through these kind of topics that are getting out. 0.67

00:29:24.000 Well, that's done to discredit wider topics. 0.80

00:29:27.000 They'll mix things in that can't be proven.

00:29:29.000 That's it.

00:29:31.000 I wanted to thank you.

00:29:32.000 All right, thanks for the call.

00:29:34.000 Good to hear from you, Larry.

00:29:35.000 Aaron Zellman's up next, and then we'll take calls.

00:29:40.000 Total free number to join us, 800-259-9231.

00:29:45.000 But it is being underreported that our government, the illegitimate government, is saying they're going to invade at least three more countries on the 61 hit list.

00:29:53.000 They got 61 countries left.

00:29:54.000 It was 63, but now it's 61.

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00:30:53.000 Alright, thanks for joining us again on this live Thursday edition, the 12th of June 2003.

00:31:01.000 And coming up in a few minutes, I've got a guest that I really respect who's done a lot of wonderful work in awakening and freeing the minds of not just the American people, but the population globally.

00:31:13.000 And that's Aaron Zellman, founder and the head of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms, and everybody can be a member.

00:31:21.000 And of course, he also has another great organization that's gained a lot of esteem since he founded it a few years ago.

00:31:26.000 And that is Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States.

00:31:31.000 And we'll talk about the Second Amendment.

00:31:32.000 We'll talk about the so-called war on terror.

00:31:34.000 It's really a war on rights. 0.78

00:31:36.000 And how the globalists really fund the Muslim terrorists from all the evidence I have. 0.96

00:31:41.000 Now that's all coming up and your calls.

00:31:44.000 And then I want to get into U.S.

00:31:47.000 can't rule out North Korea's strike.

00:31:49.000 Rumsfeld's advisor says, after Rumsfeld on the board of ABB was the bag man to North Korea giving them the weapons.

00:31:57.000 Big news, as they say they're about to go into Iran and all these other countries.

00:32:01.000 And isn't it funny what Larry Pratt said two days ago on this show, the head of Gun Owners of America, that the Iraqis can have semi-automatic and fully automatic rifles, but we can't. 0.97

00:32:13.000 Under Saddam they can have it, under the new government they can have it, because they won't turn them in, they already tried, but Americans can't. 0.98

00:32:19.000 So they get more rights than we do.

00:32:21.000 An occupied country gets more rights than we do. 0.99

00:32:26.000 So we'll talk about that with Aaron Zellman as well today.

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00:35:09.000 zero four take action expose the evil doers the enemy combatants that run our government

00:35:15.000 their overthrowing our legitimate republic they are the traders they are the enemies of america 0.97

00:35:21.000 out there the wrap themselves in the flags whether they're chuckie schumer george bush

00:35:26.000 while they slip the throat of this republic okay let's go to erin zellman 0.87

00:35:31.000 erin great to have you uh... on the show today i really appreciate it

00:35:36.000 now you've got a lot to talk about first off tell us about your organization j_p_f_o_

00:35:41.000 and uh... c_ cops as well Thank you, Alex.

00:35:45.000 JPFO, the name of it is Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, was founded over 14 years ago to publicly challenge the leadership of the Jewish community that does, for the most part, support gun control and quite bluntly ask these folks if they've learned anything from history.

00:36:05.000 And the answer is pretty obvious.

00:36:06.000 The answer is no.

00:36:08.000 That's why they support gun control schemes and the Big Brother government schemes and And are very enamored with socialism.

00:36:15.000 So we've tried, Alex, to get these people to open their eyes, but we've decided that it's going to be an uphill battle doing that.

00:36:23.000 So we thought we'd try to circle the wagons around them, them being the leadership of the Jewish community, and reach out to many other people and help them understand what the leadership of the Jewish community fails to grasp.

00:36:36.000 And we've been having a lot of success at doing that.

00:36:38.000 So we have done it through publications of our books.

00:36:42.000 Or little pamphlets, our freedom pamphlets.

00:36:45.000 We're working on our own documentaries, you may have heard by now.

00:36:50.000 And we have, you know, we have a website, JPFO.org, where people can go and get alerts and find all the information that we've published and download it.

00:37:01.000 And that's pretty much what we do.

00:37:04.000 CCOPS is undergoing a... CCOPS being concerned citizens opposed to police states is going to be revamped.

00:37:11.000 We've got an exciting strategy to replace that.

00:37:14.000 It'll still deal with police state policies, but we think we have found a better way to get people to, people who don't understand what's going on, to come on board and to become aware and hopefully frightened as to what is happening in America.

00:37:30.000 You know, I have a saying, Alex.

00:37:32.000 I say that when governments get scared, that they do scary things.

00:37:38.000 And that's what's going on in America today.

00:37:40.000 As you have certainly documented.

00:37:42.000 So, uh... Well, let's go over the police state first, then we'll get into the Second Amendment and Bush's traitorous anti-American activities, Webhair Clinton and others.

00:37:52.000 But, and his whole neocon agenda, with the Trotskyite crowd, which has now admitted, even the National Post of Canada has reported, the ghost of Trotsky walks the White House, because they are running things and they know what they're doing.

00:38:06.000 This is the takeover we're seeing right now.

00:38:09.000 But, uh, Ashcroft said last year, there is no Patriot Act.

00:38:14.000 If you say there's a Patriot Act 2, or he said if you say that Patriot Act 1 takes your liberties, phantoms of lost liberties, you're aiding the terrorists and you will lose your liberties.

00:38:24.000 Then he said, two and a half months ago, there is no Patriot Act 2.

00:38:28.000 And then last Thursday, he said, okay, there is.

00:38:31.000 We want to be able to arrest you for any terrorist reason and execute you.

00:38:34.000 Well, Section 802 of the first Patriot Act says, any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any federal or state law.

00:38:41.000 So, that's so broad.

00:38:43.000 It's anybody and everybody.

00:38:44.000 We've seen laws where they want to arrest protesters, calling it terrorism.

00:38:49.000 The Governor of California has called for that.

00:38:52.000 Conservatives have called for that in Oregon.

00:38:53.000 We see across the board Republicans and Democrats together on the police state.

00:38:58.000 The Chuckie Schumers, the Feinsteins, the Bushes, the Senator Menassez out of Oregon, the Mike Van Winkles, Attorney General of California, saying protesting a war might be helping terrorists, that might be terrorism.

00:39:14.000 We're hearing now the First Amendment might be terror.

00:39:17.000 Your analysis of Patriot 1 and 2, and we're now hearing about death camps at Guantanamo Bay, and, oh, it could be for Americans, too.

00:39:25.000 No judge, no jury.

00:39:27.000 Your analysis of that, Aaron Zellman?

00:39:31.000 Well, you know, it's almost unbelievable.

00:39:36.000 I mean, I think most people have just simply tuned out.

00:39:39.000 They can't come to grips with the reality.

00:39:43.000 Of what's happening here in America.

00:39:45.000 And that's the Reuters headline in BBC, as well as the Associated Press.

00:39:49.000 The U.S.

00:39:49.000 announces death camps.

00:39:51.000 They said it.

00:39:52.000 A mass assembling line execution chamber.

00:39:54.000 Does that sound fun?

00:39:57.000 Well, let's put it this way.

00:39:59.000 It's all been done before.

00:40:02.000 The United States, the people who run this country, have all gone to the same dictator school.

00:40:09.000 The people who have run the former Soviet Union, or Nazi Germany, or Cuba, or Cambodia, or, you know, wherever you want to go, just pick the dictatorship.

00:40:18.000 Well, it's even the same name, Right Security, Homeland Security.

00:40:23.000 Well, that should frighten people on its own, but most people don't understand the history behind that.

00:40:27.000 But as I said before, you know, when governments get scared, they do scary things.

00:40:32.000 I think the government is scared, the United States government is scared, but for more reasons than just terrorism.

00:40:38.000 I think you're seeing an awakening amongst a growing number of people that the government itself, I mean, the system of government in America is shaky.

00:40:49.000 That people see that it's falling apart.

00:40:52.000 And that the government is concerned about losing power.

00:40:56.000 Well, I totally agree.

00:40:58.000 That's probably why we have the Patriot Acts 1, 2, and I'm sure there'll be 3, 4, 5, and 6.

00:41:03.000 But we are looking at a situation where Those who are in power don't want to lose power.

00:41:09.000 Those who are in power want to do anything to keep power.

00:41:13.000 There's no difference.

00:41:15.000 We're rapidly reaching the point where there's no difference between the socialist concept and the National Socialist Workers, the Nazi Party, and what's going on in America.

00:41:25.000 It's the same old, same old.

00:41:28.000 I'm not trying to be facetious about this.

00:41:31.000 Well, what I've talked to some Holocaust survivors, or people who've escaped from the Soviet Union, that they're in shock as to what they see happening in America.

00:41:41.000 They've lived through it before.

00:41:41.000 That happens all the time.

00:41:42.000 Aaron, on this radio show, I have old German women, old German men, old Czechoslovakian men.

00:41:49.000 They call in every week and they say, you know, with their accents, We saw the same thing in Russia, the same thing in Poland, I saw the same thing as a little girl in Germany, the same slogans, the same uniforms, the same, we're going to protect you from these terrorists.

00:42:08.000 And so we are seeing a repeat, Aaron.

00:42:13.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:42:14.000 You know, on our website, there's a quote from Goering, when he was a prisoner during the Nuremberg Trials.

00:42:21.000 Yeah, why don't you read that quote?

00:42:23.000 I don't have it in front of me.

00:42:24.000 He just talked about how you use a war to get people unified and take their rights away.

00:42:29.000 That's right.

00:42:29.000 And then people who complain about that, you just point to them as being traitors.

00:42:36.000 And it's the same old, same old.

00:42:40.000 Absolutely.

00:42:41.000 And, you know, Bush has taken on the so-called conservative mantle, wherein substance, he's a gun grabber, open borders, supercomputers to China, blocks Dan Burton's committee on Pardon Gate.

00:42:52.000 We know the truth, but think of the liberal backlash when they get in and have all these Patriot Act powers, and then they're going to be all vitriolic, thinking they're on some holy crusade against the right-wingers, and it's going to be you and I that are in trouble.

00:43:07.000 It's going to be anybody, Alex, who Even utter something called, a name like the Bill of Rights.

00:43:14.000 Or the Constitution.

00:43:15.000 By the way, you bring that up, and I keep jumping in there because it's so interesting, Aaron.

00:43:19.000 Have you seen my film, The Road to Tyranny?

00:43:21.000 No, I haven't.

00:43:22.000 In the video in Kansas City, I have the head FEMA guy there in a classroom of police, and of course he tells them this is all off the record, don't you?

00:43:29.000 and then he tells them a firefighter shooting video of this that quote george washington thomas jefferson terrorist

00:43:35.000 all christians are enemies of the federal government period 0.96

00:43:39.000 and we have the training manuals they mentioned offenders of the u_s_ 0.98

00:43:42.000 constitution homeschoolers i know you see knows that was in the washington

00:43:46.000 times sure what do you think about that

00:43:48.000 uh... covert training that's going on everywhere right now well my advice to americans frankly

00:43:57.000 is that You know, I could be able to stop this.

00:44:00.000 You're going to have to fight it.

00:44:03.000 And my advice to Americans is to master long-range rifles.

00:44:07.000 I hope I don't have to peel that onion anymore for people.

00:44:11.000 But that's about the last hope they're going to have is mastering the use of a long-range rifle.

00:44:17.000 You can take your AK-47 and throw it in the fireplace.

00:44:20.000 It's going to be useless.

00:44:21.000 You've got to learn how to master long-range rifles because you're going to have to deal with it on that level if This cancer spreads and becomes so severe that we have no choice.

00:44:33.000 We will have a choice if the government doesn't push it, but the government may not give us a choice.

00:44:39.000 Some people probably think I'm being an extremist, but I'm just dealing with the reality of the situation.

00:44:44.000 The handwriting's on the wall.

00:44:47.000 Well, I've had you on probably ten times over the last few years.

00:44:49.000 I've never heard you talk like this.

00:44:51.000 What are the indicators that are upsetting you so much?

00:44:55.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

00:44:57.000 I guess it's a realization of just how much evil there is in the world.

00:45:02.000 After working on this documentary that we've been putting together, and you look at that type of evil that's around the world, you see that's also here in America.

00:45:13.000 And that there are people who become, who are just taken over by this evil.

00:45:18.000 And there are people in government, and they can't, it just becomes their mantra, it becomes their religion.

00:45:26.000 To have power.

00:45:27.000 They worship power and nothing else.

00:45:30.000 Now that's what O'Brien... That's what's so darn scary, you know.

00:45:34.000 That's what, Aaron, that's what O'Brien, who was torturing Winston in the Ministry of Love, tells him in 1984.

00:45:43.000 He says, we are the priest of power, always pressing on the nerve of power, power for power's sake.

00:45:51.000 Yep, there you go. 0.92

00:45:53.000 But that's what we have in America today, and anybody who wants to bury their head in the sand and doesn't want to deal with these realities, well, maybe they'll be the first to go, because they're totally useless anyways.

00:46:07.000 They're only in the way.

00:46:08.000 Well, I've pointed that out, that tyrants seem to feed on their minions first.

00:46:13.000 Why is that?

00:46:16.000 Well, you know, I think part of it is that The tyrant looks at the people who have put him in power as very weak people because if they're willing to turn on their own American, their own citizens, and they're willing to give up freedom so easily to put an evil person in power, that evil person no longer has any faith in these people. 0.84

00:46:39.000 And they do not admire them anymore because they see that they are useless. 0.99

00:46:43.000 They're parasites. 1.00

00:46:44.000 Also they can undermine and put in another dictator after them. 1.00

00:46:48.000 So they want to get rid of those people.

00:46:48.000 That's right.

00:46:51.000 We saw it in Russia, we saw it with Night of the Long Knives, Pol Pot in Cambodia, Mao in China, Fidel Castro in Cuba.

00:46:58.000 It's the same story over and over again.

00:47:00.000 If you're going to betray your own people, they fear that you will betray them. 1.00

00:47:06.000 So again, this is why The useful idiots, if we can use that term, will be the first to go. 0.99

00:47:14.000 Well, I can't believe we've gotten to this point. 0.99

00:47:16.000 You know, a trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon and there's no investigation?

00:47:20.000 A trillion dollars is missing, Aaron!

00:47:24.000 Well, maybe they just printed it up, Alex.

00:47:29.000 Maybe they didn't steal it from the taxpayers this time.

00:47:34.000 People try to focus everything in on Ashcroft, but obviously Bill Clinton helped set all this up.

00:47:39.000 So did the President before him.

00:47:41.000 But now we've got Ashcroft.

00:47:43.000 He really seems to enjoy what he's doing.

00:47:45.000 What do you think of Ridge and Ashcroft and the rest of the Herman Goerings and Heinrich Himmlers we've got on the Hill right now?

00:47:53.000 Well, I think that just, you know, the comment I made before, when governments get scared, they do scary things.

00:47:59.000 And I think that there's a lot of these folks who are scared and they're doing scary things.

00:48:06.000 You know, I agree with you because I've done 900 interviews.

00:48:09.000 It's coming up on 900 since 9-1-1.

00:48:12.000 And Aaron, I go on these shows and I'll take 30 calls and nobody disagrees.

00:48:17.000 I mean big talk shows.

00:48:18.000 Talk show hosts that disagree with me.

00:48:20.000 And all I hear is an awakening happening.

00:48:23.000 So we're in a race now and they know their time is short.

00:48:26.000 Stay right there, my friend.

00:48:27.000 We'll come back and talk about the Second Amendment and more with Aaron Zellman.

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00:51:59.000 We ended the last segment, Aaron, with you saying that there's a massive awakening happening

00:52:05.000 for the corruption in government, that people see the lies now and so the globalists are

00:52:09.000 scared.

00:52:10.000 And I second that.

00:52:12.000 I mean, you know, in our positions where we actually are out there in the public and talk to people and do interviews and see what's happening, we get a grip of things, a grasp of things.

00:52:21.000 The average person's kind of isolated, alone, and doesn't know that three doors down, there's somebody thinking just like them.

00:52:27.000 It's great to get out there and network.

00:52:30.000 What are some of the other solutions you see, and some of the other key areas, the threats to liberty you see, and what are some of the most frightening developments inside this Homeland Security dictatorship that you're concerned about?

00:52:41.000 Well, I think there's a threat to everything.

00:52:45.000 In other words, the entire Bill of Rights is under attack.

00:52:48.000 It's not just the First Amendment or the Second Amendment.

00:52:51.000 But there is an effort to destroy the entire Bill of Rights.

00:52:56.000 I think the first thing we have to do is help people understand that the Bill of Rights exists because it's a list of clauses telling the government what it cannot do.

00:53:06.000 So we really have to, Alex, we really have to reach out to people, get them to understand what the government is doing to them by helping them understand what the government was not supposed to do in the first place.

00:53:16.000 So that might be a step in the right direction for us to undertake.

00:53:20.000 You call it the Bill of Rights culture.

00:53:23.000 Yes, the Bill of Rights culture would be, you know, all the Bill of Rights for all citizens and anything that violates the Bill of Rights is prohibited and must cease to exist immediately.

00:53:38.000 So that's a Bill of Rights culture.

00:53:40.000 There's a zero tolerance for those who violate the Bill of Rights.

00:53:45.000 Any proposed law, any existing law, any effort to violate the Bill of Rights Simply must cease to exist.

00:53:57.000 It's absolutely incredible.

00:53:58.000 Now that is the only way we're going to save this country.

00:54:01.000 We're going to have to take that step, which is where we started off from to begin with.

00:54:05.000 I mean, if we go back to that step, it's full circle. 0.99

00:54:09.000 That's why we had, that's what we told the British to drop dead and shot them. 1.00

00:54:14.000 And so we have to just admit to take this full circle again.

00:54:19.000 Well, they've been setting up for conflict with the American people for a while because they knew the things they had planned were so horrible, a lot of people would get off the bench.

00:54:30.000 And we're trying to let them know that our numbers are so great, our resolve is strong enough, so they will back off.

00:54:36.000 But in their ivory towers, I think they have gotten a bit delusional and are not listening to their social architects and the professors that advise them on how to take over.

00:54:47.000 Do you agree with that statement?

00:54:49.000 Oh, I think people in government have always been delusional.

00:54:52.000 You know, they think that they can bring about a better world if everyone would just listen to them and let them do what they want to do.

00:55:01.000 Delusional is putting it mildly.

00:55:03.000 You're being very diplomatic. 0.99

00:55:05.000 I think maybe just crazy, mentally unbalanced. 0.98

00:55:10.000 Might be a little more appropriate. 0.78

00:55:13.000 Here's a quote by Sarah Brady.

00:55:15.000 This was published in the National Educator Magazine.

00:55:20.000 She said this on the House floor, Senate floor.

00:55:23.000 Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.

00:55:30.000 Sarah Brady, Chairman of Handgun Control to Senator Howard Metzenbaum.

00:55:34.000 The National Educator, January 94, page 3.

00:55:38.000 UNIDIR in 2001 had their July meeting in New York.

00:55:41.000 They said, civilian ownership of firearms threatens a legitimate power monopoly of the state.

00:55:48.000 Power monopoly of the state is a dictatorship, is it not?

00:55:52.000 Indeed it is.

00:55:53.000 And I think that if you study the history of the world and those countries where they've been able to take guns away from people and leave people defenseless, The power of the state has been to murder people.

00:56:07.000 And now Bush says he'll sign the assault weapons ban with pleasure and add some other goodies to it.

00:56:14.000 We'll be back with Aaron Zellman to his preservation of firearms.

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00:57:06.000 The government has become illegitimate.

00:57:08.000 It is destroying the Republic.

00:57:12.000 And it was one of our more famous presidents that said that when the government becomes destructive of the aims and tries to overthrow the legitimate government, it is the people's right, their duty, to remove that government.

00:57:29.000 And most of our founding fathers said that in different ways.

00:57:32.000 Read the Declaration of Independence and ask yourself, is that not happening today?

00:57:36.000 Now we have loaded phones with Wesley and Daryl and Brian and Tom and Charles and others.

00:57:41.000 Your calls are coming up in the next segment, your chance to talk to Aaron Zellman, founder and president of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms and Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States.

00:57:53.000 The website is JPFO.org.

00:57:56.000 We have a link to it on InfoWars.com.

00:57:59.000 JPFO.org and later we'll give you out a toll free number to join or to get their free email alerts or to get some of the fine publications they put out like Uncle Jack's comic books that teaches kids about corrupt government and what gun control is really all about.

00:58:13.000 It has a great effect.

00:58:15.000 But Aaron, I wanted to raise this story and get your response to it during this short segment.

00:58:20.000 Well, we'll just do it in the next segment.

00:58:21.000 I'll actually read the article, but it's out of New York Daily News.

00:58:27.000 And it talks about how the police have been ordered that if you don't put your newspapers outside with a proper knot for recycling, you get a huge fine.

00:58:36.000 If you park in your own parking lot, there was a city ordinance that you couldn't park in your own parking lot, but now they're going ahead and arresting you.

00:58:43.000 If you put your books in the seat that's not occupied on the train, you get a fine.

00:58:49.000 Now two men that have a barber shop stepped out when they didn't have anybody's hair to cut, smoked a cigarette on their own step, and they were given fines, and the police said, blame it on Bloomberg, we've been ordered to do this.

00:59:02.000 Government just squeezing, taking women to jail for not wearing a seatbelt a block from their house, driving home, and putting them in jail, and just all of these new incredible charges for petty offenses.

00:59:15.000 Is this what the police state is all about?

00:59:19.000 You know, this almost makes me think that New York City is a test case, like a bunch of rats inside a cage.

00:59:26.000 Let's just see if we can get away with all of these things.

00:59:29.000 I think that's what the boys are asking themselves.

00:59:32.000 And, you know, I think Mr. Bloomberg ought to run his business the way he's trying to run New York City.

00:59:39.000 See if he likes it.

00:59:41.000 This morning I was talking to somebody who lives in the New York area and he said that someone was leaning on a fire hydrant the other day.

00:59:49.000 And they got a ticket for loitering.

00:59:53.000 I mean, I wasn't there, I didn't see it, but I just have to assume the person is telling me exactly what happened.

00:59:58.000 But this is almost a situation.

01:00:00.000 Let's just see how far we can push the envelope.

01:00:03.000 Aaron, you're accurate.

01:00:04.000 There's another article on the fire hydrant.

01:00:06.000 They've given out several thousand tickets for even standing by fire hydrants.

01:00:14.000 So what is this all about?

01:00:15.000 Just running around, foaming at the mouth?

01:00:17.000 It sounds just like the Declaration of Independence, where the king has erected swarms of officers to go forth and eat out our substance.

01:00:25.000 But I think in New York City they'll get away with it, because I think the majority of people live in New York City.

01:00:32.000 You want government to do things for them, and they have faith in government, and you look at the people that they vote for, and what else has to be said? 0.98

01:00:40.000 I mean, the people in New York City, I think in some respects, are brain-dead.

01:00:45.000 So they're going to be more willing to put up with this. 0.50

01:00:50.000 Remember New York City years ago, they used to have an expression, you take some money for the muggers with you, you're mugging money?

01:00:59.000 Because the people are just ready to tolerate being victims.

01:01:05.000 Well, I agree it's a test case, and they're doing it all over the country, but more so in LA and New York.

01:01:12.000 And when you go ahead and go along with their $100 fines for not putting your newspapers out right, next time it'll be jail time and you'll thank them for it, won't you?

01:01:23.000 Oh sure, you'll enjoy the food there and also the cockroaches.

01:01:26.000 And they're gonna build a new factory onto the jail so you can do a little work, dude!

01:01:32.000 And then of course that'll take everybody else's job on the outside. 0.58

01:01:35.000 Aaron, stay there.

01:01:36.000 Let's talk more about this and more about JPFO when we get back and take calls.

01:01:39.000 Stay with us, folks.

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01:04:49.000 (dramatic music)

01:04:51.000 We're talking to Aaron Zellman today, founder and president of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms, been around for 14 years.

01:05:03.000 Fighting the criminals who want your guns so they can enslave you and your family.

01:05:08.000 That's the historical fact.

01:05:09.000 Slaves are disarmed, whether it was in Rome, or this country, or Nazi Germany, or Stalinist Russia.

01:05:16.000 And in the last segment, we're about to go straight to your calls, and I appreciate Aaron joining us today.

01:05:21.000 In the last segment, I mentioned to Aaron about how you don't put your recycling out right.

01:05:26.000 You get a huge fine, you put your books Next to you in an open seat on the train, you get a huge fine.

01:05:33.000 He mentioned it and it's in the news.

01:05:34.000 You lean up against a fire hydrant.

01:05:36.000 Huge fine.

01:05:38.000 Don't wear a seatbelt.

01:05:39.000 Arrested.

01:05:40.000 And now the police have taken out radio ads, newspaper ads, and they're saying, we're sorry.

01:05:47.000 Everyone hates us now.

01:05:48.000 We've been ordered to raid houses without warrants.

01:05:51.000 We've been ordered to do all this.

01:05:52.000 We've been ordered to step all this up.

01:05:54.000 We've been ordered to give you all tickets.

01:05:57.000 And we're being ordered to do it.

01:05:58.000 Well, that's just so they don't get resistance.

01:06:01.000 Mayor Bloomberg wants more money.

01:06:02.000 Look, that government has plenty of money.

01:06:04.000 They just raised the property taxes something like 95% last year.

01:06:09.000 Well, here it is out of the New York Daily News real quick, and we'll get Aaron's take on this and go to some calls.

01:06:14.000 Two barbers clipped for loitering at work, New York Daily News.

01:06:19.000 Kim Pond and a buddy had stepped out of Shaw's big time on Friday night to smoke a butt. 1.00

01:06:27.000 But when a cop slapped them with a pair of summonses.

01:06:31.000 The charge, loitering in front of a business.

01:06:35.000 But Pond and Bruce Rosaro, 27, were just hanging outside the Bronx Barber Shop.

01:06:41.000 They work there.

01:06:43.000 We can't smoke inside because it's against the law.

01:06:46.000 Pawn 23 told the Daily News.

01:06:48.000 What are we supposed to do?

01:06:50.000 Go home to have a cigarette?

01:06:51.000 It was 7pm and Pawn, who had been a barber at Shaw's for two months, still had one more haircut to go before calling it a night.

01:07:01.000 But before he was able to get back to work, a police wagon Turn the corner and slow to a stop outside the barbershop at 935 North Morris Park Avenue near Flower Avenue.

01:07:14.000 Let me see some ID!

01:07:15.000 It's all part of getting shaken down for papers.

01:07:18.000 They can't walk down the street or stand on the street.

01:07:20.000 See, all these little innocuous laws sound like they were no big deal, but now they can take your house if there's three inch grass in Austin, Texas.

01:07:27.000 $2,000 a day fines.

01:07:29.000 See how all this stuff works?

01:07:31.000 Let me see some ID, a cop told Hahn and Rossaro, who said they quickly whipped out their driver's license.

01:07:37.000 Yes, sir!

01:07:38.000 Next thing he knew, Pond had the pink summons slip in his hand.

01:07:42.000 Blame it on Bloomberg, they said, said the cop told them before driving away.

01:07:46.000 When asked about the summons, police spokesman Deputy Chief Michael Collins issued the same statement he has made regarding other tickets.

01:07:53.000 As the Daily News is fully aware, or should be aware, there are administrative procedures available to those who may have been issued summons in error, or for those who may have a legitimate reason for violating these regulations.

01:08:04.000 Those procedures are clearly described on the summons issued to violators.

01:08:07.000 And then you go before the corrupt courts.

01:08:09.000 But, the border's wide open, they're funding every major terror group, they're burning the Bill of Rights, those are the big laws, that's treason.

01:08:17.000 But, here in Austin, I have friends, nice middle class people, go to a city park, having a barbecue, cops walk over, let me see your IDs, rumble through their stuff, and if somebody doesn't have their ID, they will put them in the police car, take them to jail, failure to ID, In a free country!

01:08:37.000 Can't be in a park, walk down the street without your ID!

01:08:40.000 Is that a free country, Aaron?

01:08:44.000 It's a country that feels like it's free to harass people.

01:08:47.000 It's a government that doesn't give a damn about what is right and only knows what is wrong.

01:08:57.000 But Jim, there's one intriguing part about all this that you were reading, Alex.

01:09:02.000 That is that the police are saying, blame it on Bloomberg.

01:09:06.000 It's almost as if Mr. Bloomberg isn't aware of something.

01:09:09.000 That the police are not in lockstep with him.

01:09:12.000 That they don't approve of what they're being told to do or ordered to do.

01:09:17.000 And that's dangerous for Mr. Bloomberg.

01:09:20.000 That's a good sign.

01:09:22.000 Well, it's bizarre.

01:09:24.000 Because it shows a lack of respect for the leader, the so-called leader of New York City.

01:09:30.000 And that's very important.

01:09:33.000 When you start to have people who are part of government showing a lack of respect for the so-called leader, that is good for us.

01:09:40.000 But how do you double property taxes when they know the city is falling apart and the citizens are all losing their jobs?

01:09:49.000 How do you tell the police to crack down on little old ladies? 1.00

01:09:52.000 That's in these articles.

01:09:53.000 I've got a whole stack of them.

01:09:55.000 Well, it's just a matter of, you know, the man is scared.

01:09:59.000 He's doing scary things.

01:10:01.000 But now it says little old ladies. 0.58

01:10:03.000 It literally says handicapped old women and such have been videoed by the news.

01:10:08.000 The light will change and say walk.

01:10:10.000 And if they're not totally across by the time it turns, they're giving them $200 fines.

01:10:15.000 Does that sound like America to you?

01:10:18.000 No, of course not. 0.91

01:10:21.000 But lazy Americans have allowed this to happen.

01:10:24.000 We have to be very realistic. 0.63

01:10:26.000 There are some people who stub their head in the sand, but because... There's that expression, I think, something of the fact that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

01:10:38.000 And this is exactly what's happening here.

01:10:40.000 Good people have chosen to do nothing.

01:10:42.000 Good people have chosen to just let government take control of their lives.

01:10:46.000 Well, now they're going to pay the price.

01:10:50.000 But that is good news that the police are refusing a smallpox shot.

01:10:55.000 They're getting mad about having to do this.

01:10:58.000 They're waking up at gun controls of fraud.

01:11:01.000 But still, they're following orders.

01:11:03.000 What would happen if... Well, you know why, Alex?

01:11:05.000 I mean, it all boils down to one word.

01:11:07.000 Pension.

01:11:09.000 Everyone's concerned about their pension.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, but what if half the cops said, no, we're not going to do this anymore?

01:11:14.000 It's like, now it's eight of the provinces in Canada have refused to confiscate and register guns, and the feds are flipping out up there?

01:11:25.000 Well, I think that's a good sign.

01:11:27.000 You know, what we need to do is to help politicians see the light, and so more of them will do as we tell them to do.

01:11:35.000 And that's why we have to take this attitude.

01:11:38.000 These people work for us, that's what public servant means.

01:11:41.000 So they either follow our orders or they get out.

01:11:43.000 You know, I've told police that and they'll say, hey buddy, I pay taxes!

01:11:47.000 I pay my own salary!

01:11:51.000 Uh, well, then I'd like him to live on what he pays in taxes.

01:11:56.000 Tell him that.

01:11:57.000 Well, that's what I said.

01:11:58.000 So you pay your couple hundred dollars a month in taxes?

01:12:00.000 Well, fine.

01:12:01.000 Then you live on that.

01:12:02.000 You and your entire family live on that couple hundred dollars a month.

01:12:07.000 And so you've got a deal.

01:12:09.000 You live on your taxes.

01:12:12.000 But don't expect to live on mine.

01:12:14.000 Well, it's incredible, but it seems to be a dichotomy there because I'll have a state police major walk over and go, Mooster Jones and his cowboy hat, listen, I want you to know we were brought up, this was the Soviet Union, and we know something's wrong.

01:12:27.000 And I said, well, how many of you are watching the show?

01:12:31.000 I have a TV show.

01:12:31.000 And he goes, well, a lot of us, a lot of us.

01:12:32.000 And he goes, the younger guys are kind of brainwashed.

01:12:35.000 This is a high-level officer telling me this.

01:12:39.000 I have no doubt.

01:12:40.000 I mean, and he's right about a lot of the younger guys are, you know, victims of the public school system.

01:12:45.000 Of course they're brainwashed.

01:12:47.000 Well, that's what Hitler said.

01:12:48.000 You get the Jugend.

01:12:51.000 Yeah, control the youth and you're well on your way.

01:12:55.000 All right, Aaron, I want to go to some calls and folks, also later he'll be giving out a toll-free number and telling you about some of the incredible uh... books he has he has one that shows our government

01:13:05.000 translated the nazi gun control act and

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01:13:10.000 the new gun control measures we're talking about police state right now

01:13:13.000 i'll let's go ahead and take calls let's go to wesley and then daryl brian tom charles and

01:13:18.000 others was we are on the air go ahead

01:13:21.000 thank you alex and good afternoon to the both of you gentlemen

01:13:25.000 uh...

01:13:26.000 for a long time before i became put on the before i got put on the shelf as a school

01:13:31.000 teacher by uh... muscular dystrophy i taught american and world history

01:13:36.000 And perhaps better than most people, I understand why the Jews said, never again after World War II. 0.86

01:13:45.000 And I guess if there's hope in this, it's that Alex, you reported earlier in the week that Arizona was going to refuse to Cooperate with this terrorist colored alert system and although I'm not an advocate of decriminalizing marijuana, I am encouraged that eight western states have said that they

01:14:15.000 Will permit the use of it, at least the use of it for medical purposes.

01:14:18.000 Well let me just say this, it does have real medical use in chemotherapy people, in glaucoma, the government ships in the hard drugs, we've got to be criminalized because they're shipping it in to create the crime.

01:14:30.000 By it being illegal, that's nine out of ten robberies, then it's a joke, it's like Satan punishing one of his demons.

01:14:38.000 It's like Stalin telling you he's going to keep you safe from the commissars.

01:14:44.000 Aaron, do you see what I'm saying about the drug war on that subject?

01:14:48.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:14:51.000 I agree with you.

01:14:52.000 I guess a better way to put this on the whole drug war, to get people a little more focused on it, so they understand how evil it is, is to ask people, when did you vote to give the government permission to dictate what you can or cannot do with your body?

01:15:11.000 And sometimes, Alex, that pulls people into the argument a little better.

01:15:14.000 They begin to see the bigger picture.

01:15:17.000 Well, now they're trying to say smoking marijuana is a terrorist act, so you don't have any rights if you're smoking marijuana.

01:15:22.000 The point is, I don't use any of these drugs.

01:15:24.000 I drink two glasses of coffee in the morning, and that's about as deep in the drugs as I get maybe Tylenol twice a year.

01:15:31.000 But, they're shipping the heroin and cocaine in to create the crisis, they make the profits, and then when they catch your dumb kid on the street with some marijuana, he gets three years in prison building widgets for George Bush's Wackenhut company. 0.90

01:15:45.000 It's a joke! 0.94

01:15:47.000 Well, it's more than a joke.

01:15:49.000 I mean, this is a crisis that has happened.

01:15:52.000 Yeah, the police are busting in doors with black ski masks.

01:15:55.000 But again, you see, it all boils down to If we can get millions of Americans just to answer the question, when did you vote to give the government permission to dictate what you can or cannot do with your body?

01:16:09.000 Well, in some areas, and I don't agree with much with what Europe's done, but I do agree when they decriminalize drugs, people stop using them.

01:16:16.000 It's not cool anymore.

01:16:18.000 Well, of course it isn't. 0.99

01:16:19.000 I mean, only a fool's gonna go use drugs. 0.93

01:16:22.000 And then it loses the money, so the drug dealers aren't these status symbols. 1.00

01:16:27.000 It's like, uh, the garbage it is. 0.99

01:16:30.000 It's psychology, folks. 1.00

01:16:32.000 Who decriminalized... I mean, who criminalized heroin?

01:16:36.000 Roosevelt.

01:16:37.000 Where did his family make his money?

01:16:39.000 Heroin dealing.

01:16:40.000 Legally.

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01:20:55.000 My friends, the British East India Company has the world monopoly on opium shipments into Western Europe, the United

01:21:02.000 Kingdom and the U.S. 0.99

01:21:04.000 Their main distributor was the Roosevelt family of Hyde Park.

01:21:09.000 And they lobbied to criminalize it once competition came into the market, and they could still covertly control the market and make much higher profits.

01:21:18.000 Lodum opium was sold by the bottle at drugstores, and you had less drug abuse then than you do today. 0.97

01:21:25.000 They ship it in, make it illegal to jack the prices up, it then gives it a fashionable look for low-level drug dealers, and your daughters become crack whores. 0.99

01:21:34.000 We must decriminalize now. 0.95

01:21:36.000 That's what I have to say about the drug war.

01:21:37.000 Aaron Zellman, I want to get into JPFO and what you're doing to fight the gun grabbers and what your organization does and how folks can get involved.

01:21:45.000 We've got loaded phones.

01:21:46.000 We've just started going to them.

01:21:47.000 I didn't ask you this before you did the interview.

01:21:49.000 How long can you stay with us?

01:21:51.000 Well, I'm going to have to wrap it up pretty soon.

01:21:53.000 I have to go to an appointment.

01:21:54.000 I understand.

01:21:55.000 No, I just appoint people.

01:21:57.000 Sure, I understand.

01:21:57.000 Let's jam some calls in here then.

01:21:59.000 Daryl in Pennsylvania.

01:22:00.000 Go ahead.

01:22:01.000 You're on the air.

01:22:04.000 Okay, Daryl's gone.

01:22:05.000 Brian in New York, you're on the air.

01:22:06.000 Go ahead.

01:22:08.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:22:09.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:22:10.000 Mr. Zellman, I think the problem is this.

01:22:12.000 There's three kinds of people that make up a society.

01:22:15.000 Those that want power, those that want justice, and those that want security.

01:22:19.000 Unfortunately, the people that want security and power are only 5%.

01:22:23.000 And the people that want security are only 90%.

01:22:26.000 The people that want power and justice are only 5%.

01:22:29.000 like benjamin franklin said that the three public if you can keep the wheel

01:22:33.000 mature from security to justice will lose republic you agree with that

01:22:38.000 circle absolutely well i'll tell you that's exactly what's happening is

01:22:44.000 people want the government to care of them and never has it never will

01:22:48.000 You're in New York, Brian.

01:22:49.000 What is it like where, according to police-owned admissions, they've been ordered to just totally feed on you and squeeze on you?

01:22:56.000 I'll give you two shiny examples.

01:22:59.000 They gave a woman a ticket sent on the subway. 0.89

01:23:01.000 She was six months pregnant because it was hot. 1.00

01:23:04.000 She got a $105 ticket.

01:23:05.000 Dyson or Millcrate got a $105 ticket.

01:23:09.000 I mean, what is happening here, Jim, when I look at it like this, any society that's starting to fall goes through three phases.

01:23:16.000 First it goes insane, then it becomes humiliated, then it becomes destroyed.

01:23:20.000 I mean, the people on top, the way I see it, no matter who they are, these people are probably mouth, say, tongue.

01:23:26.000 These people have turned their back on God.

01:23:27.000 I think they're like a small little G-God. 1.00

01:23:29.000 Absolutely.

01:23:31.000 Great points, Brian.

01:23:32.000 Let's talk to Daryl in Pennsylvania.

01:23:34.000 Daryl, you are there.

01:23:35.000 Go ahead.

01:23:36.000 Hi Alex, and Aaron, this is Daryl Eberhardt, Crescent PA, and I've been a member of JPFO for going on six years, and I'd like to urge all of the NRA members out there, I'm a former one, but if they can't bring themselves to leave the NRA, which is a compromising organization, at least also join both JPFO and GOA, and JPFO is open to both Jews and non-Jews, because I don't see any room in the Second Amendment where it says the word shall not be infringed upon, I don't see any room for compromise there, so folks need to join JPFO and GOA so that they can get an aggressive gun rights organization out there that's fighting on their behalf.

01:24:16.000 Absolutely, and before Aaron leaves us, we'll get a couple more calls here in a second.

01:24:20.000 Stay there, Darrell, I'll let you chime back in.

01:24:22.000 Aaron Zellman, what do you think about Bush saying he'll re-sign the assault weapons ban and add a semi-automatic shotgun ban to it?

01:24:31.000 Well, the fruit doesn't fall very far from the tree, does it?

01:24:35.000 For starters.

01:24:35.000 I guess his daddy was a gun grabber, too.

01:24:39.000 Well, I'm not surprised at any of this, because they got a little wink from the NRA saying, yeah, go ahead and do it. 0.99

01:24:48.000 We'll be able to pacify the fools who will support us. 0.99

01:24:52.000 And it also shows that there is a haughtiness that, yeah, you guys were dumb enough to help me get elected, so I don't care. 0.99

01:25:03.000 If you're around or not, later on. 0.75

01:25:06.000 Alright, thanks for the call, Daryl.

01:25:08.000 Thanks, Daryl.

01:25:09.000 Anything else?

01:25:10.000 Okay.

01:25:11.000 Let's talk to Tom in Ohio.

01:25:13.000 You're on the air with Aaron Zellman.

01:25:14.000 Go ahead.

01:25:15.000 Hi, Aaron.

01:25:16.000 It's good to talk to you.

01:25:17.000 And I'm glad you're out there fighting the battle.

01:25:20.000 Thank you.

01:25:21.000 I think that we ought to take up the battle cry over here that Israel's got, Masada never again. 0.95

01:25:27.000 And I talked to a guy named Henry Lazarus, a bureaucrat, Mr. Spivak told him that the UN was not a good organization

01:25:39.000 and that we have an expression over here of registration, confiscation, extermination and

01:25:45.000 I didn't get an answer from him. I think he was shocked at what I told him. And Aaron you said

01:25:54.000 something about long range shooting What do you recommend?

01:25:58.000 A .375 or something like that?

01:26:00.000 I don't think I'm going to get into that.

01:26:02.000 I'm not an expert in that area.

01:26:05.000 It's whatever you can handle, number one.

01:26:08.000 Whatever you can handle out to 4, 5, or 600 yards.

01:26:11.000 So that's sort of open to everybody.

01:26:13.000 Aaron, I know you've got to go, but I wanted to talk a little bit about JPFO.

01:26:16.000 Can you stay with us about five minutes on the other side?

01:26:18.000 Sure.

01:26:19.000 Okay, great.

01:26:20.000 Stay there, Tom.

01:26:21.000 I'll let you finish up.

01:26:21.000 We'll talk to Charles, and then that's it for calls.

01:26:25.000 Just here on the other side real quick with Aaron Zellman, then I'll continue with the news and take more calls.

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01:27:15.000 Alright, coming up in about five minutes I'm going to get into the nuclear war they're trying to instigate with North Korea. 0.85

01:27:23.000 Imagine out of a nuclear exchange or some type of expanded war.

01:27:28.000 That'll prove to be a great diversion for the politicians and their They're masters that are shutting this country down. 0.97

01:27:34.000 We'll get into that and much more.

01:27:36.000 We're talking to Aaron Zellman.

01:27:37.000 JPFO.org is the website.

01:27:40.000 Real quick, let's finish up with the callers.

01:27:45.000 Tom, you were asking just for, you know, when I go out deer hunting or something, Or for target planking, they've actually got... Hold on Tom, they've actually got organizations you can go join that do long range shooting sports.

01:28:02.000 But I would just recommend something like a 308 bolt action Remington 700.

01:28:08.000 Now go ahead Tom.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, Aaron, I was wondering why would you recommend being able to shoot long range?

01:28:16.000 Do you know about the weapons that we're going to be facing?

01:28:20.000 Well, that's part of it.

01:28:21.000 You want to be as far away from the enemy as you can.

01:28:28.000 Can you tell me why?

01:28:29.000 Sir, I think you know why from history.

01:28:31.000 Thanks for the call, Tom.

01:28:32.000 Appreciate it.

01:28:33.000 Let's go ahead.

01:28:34.000 The reason I like long-range shooting rifles is because I do some hunting where the deer could be 600, 700 yards away.

01:28:41.000 And I think Aaron's talking about it.

01:28:43.000 We were invaded by a foreign power or something.

01:28:46.000 I know it's treason to say that we would resist communist Chinese troops invading, which our government says they'd like to do, but I think that's what he's talking about. 0.98

01:28:52.000 Let's go ahead and talk real quick to Charles in Pennsylvania.

01:28:55.000 Charles, you're on the air.

01:28:56.000 Go ahead.

01:28:57.000 Mr. Jones, Mr. Zellman.

01:29:00.000 You're right on the money, Mr. Zellman, but something you mentioned earlier, and if I'm putting words in your mouth, stop me.

01:29:07.000 Any assault on the Bill of Rights or on the Constitution should immediately be, there should be a reaction.

01:29:16.000 And I think that's, I've been harping about this, This is a problem.

01:29:20.000 This is what really needs to be done.

01:29:22.000 If they're against your enemy, they're a friend of yours.

01:29:25.000 enemy is uh... forget what that's famous but it but they're a friend of uh... if they're

01:29:30.000 against your enemy they're a friend of yours

01:29:32.000 yeah we just had a incident up here in youngstown ohio where the uh... console

01:29:37.000 uh... tried to put in a bad total ban on any semi-automatic You get six months in jail or a thousand dollar fine.

01:29:45.000 It was reacted to by the good people of Youngstown.

01:29:49.000 They came in mass yesterday and it looks like it may be defeated.

01:29:53.000 Now that friend of Hillary Clinton, she's from Cleveland, she's not even from Youngstown, was down there.

01:30:02.000 She was the one who organized that Million Mom March thing.

01:30:06.000 And I just want to reiterate that what you're saying about this, that anytime this happens, we need to have a reaction to these people, a very strong reaction, maybe people in every county and every state.

01:30:18.000 And that's the point, is when we were fighting them in Texas, the NRA was actually trying to stop us.

01:30:24.000 They're there to make you think you've got representation, so you go to sleep.

01:30:28.000 Look at L.A.

01:30:29.000 where they're banning ammo over .40 caliber, banning sale of ammo.

01:30:32.000 Aaron Zellman comments to what Charles was just saying.

01:30:36.000 Well, I agree with what the man is saying, that we have to have a zero tolerance for rights destroyers.

01:30:43.000 And I think this is something that people need to take to heart.

01:30:47.000 That if someone's destroying your rights, if someone's destroying your ability to defend your life, Someone's destroying your freedom or your privacy.

01:30:55.000 You have to have a knee-jerk reaction to this.

01:30:58.000 Zero tolerance.

01:30:59.000 Absolutely.

01:31:00.000 One more call and we'll plug JPFO and let you go. 0.92

01:31:02.000 Thanks for the call, Charles.

01:31:05.000 Who were you telling me was up next?

01:31:06.000 I guess Warren in Colorado.

01:31:08.000 Last caller for Aaron Zellman.

01:31:10.000 Go ahead.

01:31:11.000 Okay.

01:31:11.000 I hope I'm not wasting your time.

01:31:14.000 Have you heard of the article out of the Rocky Mountain News saying that deputies say that they're The sheriff deputies or the sheriff department is displaying Nazi garb.

01:31:29.000 There's a article out of the Saturday, May 31 Rocky Mountain News and the headline is deputies say uniforms look like Nazi garb.

01:31:40.000 Well, I mean, look, in Mexico, the secret police wear black uniforms and face ski masks.

01:31:47.000 In Russia, they do it.

01:31:49.000 In Germany, when your police start wearing black uniforms with skull patches, like our SWAT team does here in Austin, you've got a big problem.

01:31:57.000 How important is the uniform and the insignia of death being on your police, Aaron?

01:32:04.000 Well, you know, it has a conscious effect on people.

01:32:07.000 It makes people fear.

01:32:09.000 Oh, the police.

01:32:10.000 Because it makes people think that the police are the authority figure.

01:32:14.000 And that you must do as you're ordered to do.

01:32:18.000 In fact, the uniforms they wear are even more thuggish than what the Nazis wore.

01:32:24.000 Well, modern technology has helped out a long way.

01:32:28.000 Absolutely.

01:32:29.000 You know, the Nazis would be doing it the same way today if they could. 0.87

01:32:31.000 Well, just imagine what the Nazis could do with a computer system versus the holo-wrap machine that they had. 0.81

01:32:39.000 Just imagine.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, that was IBM.

01:32:41.000 Right, that's right.

01:32:42.000 And you know Prescott Bush ran the big Nazi bank in New York, Brown Brother Harriman, and paid that big million dollar fine.

01:32:50.000 And then Bush went to one of the concentration camps and said how sad he was while he's destroying our Bill of Rights.

01:32:56.000 What did you think of that, Aaron?

01:32:59.000 Well, you know, it's all for show.

01:33:04.000 I mean, people have to see this for what it is.

01:33:07.000 It's like something evil trying to look good.

01:33:12.000 Absolutely.

01:33:13.000 Warren, thanks for the call, sir.

01:33:15.000 Appreciate it.

01:33:16.000 Aaron Zellman, how do folks get the free email alert?

01:33:19.000 How do they join JPFO?

01:33:21.000 The free email alerts are from our website, which is JPFO.org, and they can simply go there and sign on.

01:33:27.000 And you've got the Grandpa Jack comic book series that... We have a whole series of them.

01:33:31.000 We have eight of them now.

01:33:32.000 The latest one is called, Is America Becoming a Police State?

01:33:36.000 And, you know, they can learn more about the documentary we're working on that shows the connection between gun control and genocide.

01:33:47.000 Now, you also have a book, and I've got it somewhere on a shelf.

01:33:49.000 What is it?

01:33:50.000 Gun Control Gateway to Tyranny? 0.75

01:33:52.000 It's one of our original books, yes.

01:33:54.000 But that is a side-by-side comparison between the The 1968 Gun Control Act and the 1938 Nazi Gun Control Laws.

01:34:02.000 By the way, on the back of the book, Alex, just for what it's worth, we reprint the letter from the Library of Congress Law Library, and Lewis Coffin, who acknowledges to Senator Thomas Dodd that we have received the copies of the German Weapons Law, which you requested us to translate for you And the translation is on its way back to you.

01:34:24.000 And then that becomes a law with a few word changes, and he worked in the Nuremberg trials.

01:34:29.000 He was with the Justice Department, yes.

01:34:32.000 So an obvious Nazi sympathizer.

01:34:36.000 Yes, it's kind of an odd guy, you know, we assume he's a Nazi sympathizer, although he's a strong anti-communist.

01:34:42.000 Of course, that would go hand in hand.

01:34:44.000 So again, here you have evil trying to masquerade as being good.

01:34:50.000 All right, so JPFO.org.

01:34:52.000 I recommend the Grandpa Jack series.

01:34:54.000 It's great for adults, the simple-minded public.

01:34:57.000 It states it historically.

01:34:59.000 I don't have the newest version of it, but you've got eight different ones.

01:35:03.000 And you've got the gun control gateway to tyranny.

01:35:06.000 What about a toll-free number or a number to call?

01:35:08.000 800-869-1884.

01:35:08.000 That's our order line number.

01:35:09.000 That's our order line number.

01:35:16.000 The regular number is 262-673-9745.

01:35:21.000 That number again, the toll-free one?

01:35:23.000 800-869-1884.

01:35:24.000 That's the order line, right?

01:35:28.000 And folks, if you don't get involved, if you don't get involved in the fight for the Second Amendment, Josh Sugarman of Handgun Control Incorporated and Violence Policy Center said in the 2001 March 25th issue of the Statesman, That, right next to an article where they were attacking me for being pro-gun, there was a whole bunch of articles about it that day.

01:35:46.000 He said, we've got your kids, in another generation we will ban all guns.

01:35:51.000 And he was laughing at us in the article.

01:35:54.000 And if people don't get involved in this fight, and educate others, and make it a duty to take people under their wing, we're going to lose America.

01:36:03.000 You're right, Alex.

01:36:04.000 You're right.

01:36:05.000 All right.

01:36:06.000 Well, Aaron Zellman, I really appreciate you coming on, and I'm on the same page with you about the police state and how far it's grown, and I understand your frustration, but I also hear you saying that you're seeing a great awakening that you've never seen before.

01:36:19.000 Is that accurate?

01:36:21.000 When you can get folks on the left to start agreeing with folks on the right about the destruction of the Bill of Rights, that's a good sign.

01:36:29.000 Well, I... Unfortunately, there's folks on the left and folks on the right who also want to destroy the Bill of Rights.

01:36:35.000 That's not such a good sign.

01:36:37.000 So, this is going to be truly a showdown between good and evil. 0.99

01:36:42.000 Well, by not being a hypocrite... 0.93

01:36:44.000 On exposing the corruption of Bush, liberals tune in, they get converted to being constitutionalists, and they go out and buy guns and realize the New World Order scam. 0.82

01:36:55.000 Have you found that we're able to deprogram liberals to understand if we're just honest and aren't hypocritical, and we'll expose the corruption of the Republicans as well?

01:37:04.000 Well, I think it goes hand-in-hand.

01:37:07.000 I don't know if you're going to reprogram anybody, but I think they begin to take a different look at you and become more tolerant.

01:37:16.000 Absolutely.

01:37:16.000 Aaron Zellman, Godspeed and take care, my friend.

01:37:19.000 Okay, you too, Alex.

01:37:20.000 We'll see you, buddy.

01:37:21.000 Alright, we'll take more calls.

01:37:22.000 I'm going to get into some news first.

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01:37:40.000 thirty one and i will get you up and on the air and selma and uh... had to leave us after an hour and ten 0.69

01:37:47.000 minutes and i appreciate him

01:37:48.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]

01:37:50.000 Not an hour and ten minutes.

01:37:51.000 Yeah, an hour and twelve minutes.

01:37:54.000 Okay.

01:37:57.000 I got a bunch of other stuff I haven't even gotten to.

01:37:59.000 It is all so bizarre and so out of control and so important that we covered it. 0.98

01:38:04.000 I've got Rumsfeld here saying that they want to go ahead and attack North Korea and if that doesn't concern you, you're crazy. 0.85

01:38:15.000 This is the Washington Post. 0.51

01:38:17.000 U.S.

01:38:17.000 can't rule out North Korea's strike, Rumsfeld's advisor says.

01:38:21.000 Now, a month and a half ago, Rumsfeld leaks, and they now admit it was a purposeful leak.

01:38:29.000 They leak the battle plan to attack North Korea with a literal sneak attack.

01:38:38.000 To attack North Korea with a literal sneak attack in October.

01:38:45.000 But again, it isn't a SNIG attack because they leaked it.

01:38:48.000 They want North Korea to attack us.

01:38:50.000 We have the 10-part federal document from 1940.

01:38:52.000 The 10-part plan of how to get the Japanese to attack us. 1.00

01:38:57.000 And how to let them attack us.

01:39:00.000 And then, of course, our government had prior knowledge and ordered the Navy to stand down and to take the attack.

01:39:05.000 Five Japanese submarines were sunk in the harbor, outside the harbor, that morning.

01:39:13.000 This is now admitted fact.

01:39:15.000 That doesn't take away from the valiance of the Navy and Marine and Army people that, Air Force people, well at that time Army Air Corps people, that died at Pearl Harbor.

01:39:26.000 But this is the reality.

01:39:31.000 This is the reality of what we're facing. 0.99

01:39:36.000 And with Kim Jong-il, I mean, this guy is psychopathic. 1.00

01:39:39.000 He is evil. 0.95

01:39:40.000 And our government, Donald Rumsfeld, has given him nuclear reactors.

01:39:43.000 U.S.

01:39:43.000 can't rule out North Korea's strike, Rumsfeld's advisor says.

01:39:47.000 You realize how big this is?

01:39:51.000 The globalists say they're allowed to preemptively strike anybody they want, so don't complain when we get preemptively striked.

01:39:56.000 And thanks to China and Clinton and Bush and all the rest of them that armed China and armed North Korea, they can now hit the United States. 0.91

01:40:05.000 The United States should be prepared to destroy North Korea's Yongbong reactor, if necessary, to keep the capital from trafficking in nuclear weapons, an influential member of the Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld advisory panel said on Wednesday.

01:40:21.000 Well, Richard Perl said about two months ago, when this blueprint came out, he said at a White House press dinner, he told the reporters, he said, get ready, we're going to be invading North Korea, and sort of laughing.

01:40:33.000 I mean, even if you're invading and it's the right thing to do, you don't laugh about it.

01:40:36.000 It's not funny, Prince of Darkness, as you've been dubbed.

01:40:39.000 That's his nickname.

01:40:42.000 Whether we can effectively mobilize a coalition, including China, Russia, the South Koreans, the Japanese, ourselves, and so isolate them, that they will abandon this program, that remains to be seen, said Richard Pearl.

01:40:53.000 See, he's the guy, an architect of the U.S.

01:40:55.000 invasion of Iraq.

01:40:57.000 That's certainly the preferable way to deal with it.

01:40:59.000 See, we always say that at first.

01:41:01.000 He added in a speech to the conference on Iraq reconstruction.

01:41:04.000 He also had conferences on how to profit from the Iraq war months before the war.

01:41:08.000 Totally illegal!

01:41:12.000 That's certainly the preferable way to deal with it.

01:41:14.000 He added to a speech to a conference on Iraqi reconstruction.

01:41:16.000 But I don't think anyone can exclude the kind of surgical strike we saw in 81.

01:41:20.000 Talking about Israel attacking Iraq.

01:41:23.000 He said referring to Israel's surprise air attack that destroyed a Iraq's nuclear reactor near Baghdad, known as Tammuz, on June 7th, 1981.

01:41:35.000 We should always be prepared to go it alone if necessary.

01:41:40.000 The administration of President Bush has branded North Korea part of the Axis of Evil, with Iran and pre-war Iraq, and wants the capital of North Korea to ditch its nuclear program.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, ditch it after you gave them two reactors that are able to create, according to the Associated Press, 100 nuclear warheads a year, and they've got the delivery systems from the Chinese. 0.99

01:42:04.000 The nuclear dispute erupted last October when the United States said North Korea had admitted to having a covert program.

01:42:12.000 On Monday, North Korea said it wanted nuclear weapons so it could cut its huge conventional forces and divert funds into an economy foreign analysts say is close to collapse.

01:42:24.000 I think we must assume that if they had a nuclear weapon, and if Al-Qaeda wished to purchase a nuclear weapon, It's a deal that could be done, said Pearl, who was Assistant Secretary of Defense for the International Security Policy under President Ronald Reagan.

01:42:39.000 Hey, hold on just a minute.

01:42:41.000 Wait just a second.

01:42:42.000 Hold your horses.

01:42:45.000 They've had dozens of nuclear warheads for five, six years.

01:42:49.000 They've produced hundreds now.

01:42:52.000 But every time they talk about it, they go, oh, we've got to stop them before they get a nuke.

01:42:56.000 We've got to stop them before they get a nuke.

01:42:58.000 When our government gave them the reactors, and gave them the nuclear know-how.

01:43:01.000 I have a whole, I don't know, 10 minute segment on this in Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

01:43:07.000 Out of the 2 hour and 40 minute film, I've got about 10 minutes where we cover this, in detail, with all the news articles, just dozens of them, and public statements.

01:43:18.000 It's the same thing.

01:43:19.000 But, you know, they told us that Iraq had all these weapons and they were sure about it. 1.00

01:43:22.000 They were going to give it to Al-Qaeda. 0.80

01:43:24.000 And it turns out the CIA knew that was totally false.

01:43:27.000 You had the former top CIA advisor, Ronald Reagan, on this show.

01:43:30.000 Mr, uh, what's his name?

01:43:34.000 He's got the same name as that southern governor.

01:43:36.000 Mr. McGovern.

01:43:37.000 Yes.

01:43:38.000 We had him on to tell you that they knew it was all false, and now it's come out yesterday, the CIA admits, yes it was false, we were told a lie, Dick Cheney dropped by.

01:43:51.000 Dick Cheney dropped by and pressured us to say they had all these weapons.

01:43:56.000 And by the way, Iraq is littered with chemical weapons. 0.62

01:43:59.000 Giant bunkers half-blown up full of it.

01:44:01.000 No one dare go into it to try to remove it all.

01:44:04.000 Bombed in the first Gulf War.

01:44:05.000 Our government can't hold a canister of that up, because they're already declared sites.

01:44:10.000 Or it's marked U.S.

01:44:11.000 Chemical Weapons.

01:44:12.000 That would look real good.

01:44:13.000 Oh, we found the Warehouse of Warhead!

01:44:16.000 Yes, they're on every street corner, basically.

01:44:20.000 But it's all marked U.S.

01:44:21.000 I have video of the U.S.

01:44:22.000 marked chemical weapons in there.

01:44:25.000 The point here is they're trying to push North Korea into attacking us first. 0.93

01:44:31.000 They're doing overflights of South Korea.

01:44:33.000 They've got their speedboats harassing people.

01:44:36.000 They're saying they may strike first.

01:44:38.000 They're telling Iran-Brace to be invaded. 0.98

01:44:40.000 They're telling Syria this, just hoping somebody makes a move.

01:44:46.000 Go ahead punk, pick the gun up.

01:44:48.000 But it isn't Dirty Harry, folks.

01:44:51.000 The bad guys saying go ahead and pick the gun up and putting people's backs against the wall.

01:44:56.000 It's crazy.

01:44:57.000 Order out of chaos.

01:44:58.000 That's the New World Order game. 0.54

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01:51:17.000 Welcome.

01:51:18.000 Hi Alex.

01:51:18.000 I've got three things.

01:51:20.000 I hope you'll let me get through.

01:51:21.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:51:22.000 I was just listening to your talk with Aaron there.

01:51:24.000 I have to say that I used to believe the propaganda and I have to thank you for waking me up.

01:51:29.000 I know you've had me on the show a couple of times as a caller.

01:51:31.000 But it was a 3am revelation watching 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, which just completely stunned me and broke me out of the trance, basically.

01:51:40.000 And I used to think, thanks to the propaganda, that the Patriot Movement was a bunch of nutcases.

01:51:45.000 Now, having read in more detail and understanding why you guys don't want to give up your guns, it makes perfect sense.

01:51:50.000 But of course all the propaganda is there to demonize you guys.

01:51:53.000 So I want to say to anyone listening to the show, you need to get 9-11 the right to tyranny. 0.70

01:51:57.000 You need to wake friends up out of their trance.

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01:52:04.000 That's the first thing.

01:52:05.000 Secondly, I hope you got my emails about George Monbiot and BBC Newsnight last night.

01:52:10.000 I did, but why don't you tell us about it and I'll hold you over.

01:52:13.000 You can tell us the rest of the story.

01:52:16.000 Great.

01:52:16.000 Well, George Monbiot is a guy who's been at the front of these anti-globalisation protests.

01:52:22.000 He's a journalist in The Guardian, which Greg Pallast also writes for, and he was on BBC Newsnight, which is one of the programmes that Greg Pallast works for.

01:52:31.000 Interesting.

01:52:32.000 But he was talking about the fact that the anti-globalists are always saying, well, we don't like this and we don't like that, but he was bringing forward a manifesto of what the anti-globalists might be in favour of.

01:52:46.000 This, uh, list of demands.

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01:53:47.000 The government says that, oh yeah, they do plan to go ahead and attack North Korea as early as this October.

01:53:53.000 And NASA, what do they try to do? 0.81

01:53:54.000 Because, you know, it's all part of living in the homeland.

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01:53:59.000 They also plan to attack Iran and Syria. 0.81

01:54:02.000 More details on that.

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01:54:13.000 But right now, we were talking to Ted.

01:54:15.000 Well, Ted's coming up next.

01:54:17.000 We're talking to John in England.

01:54:19.000 And, John, you were telling us about one of the folks on the BBC talking about the globalists.

01:54:27.000 Their term is the New World Order.

01:54:30.000 and uh... that you know the globalist always complaining uh... or the anti-globalist always complaining about the globalist but never having what they stand for and what they want you're saying this guy had an actual list of ideas go ahead yeah well it was uh... I mean I haven't had a chance to type up a full transcript of the program myself uh... someone else on a forum typed up some of it I'll read you what one of his uh... key comments was here first of all uh... George Monbiot says all I'm trying to do at the moment is to say those powers which already exist at the global level. Let's

01:55:01.000 democratize them.

01:55:02.000 I'm not saying let's get rid of the nation-state, though that might be a potential outcome of what I'm suggesting.

01:55:07.000 Interesting, huh?

01:55:09.000 Then there's this discussion... Have you heard of a guy called Roger Kimball?

01:55:12.000 Well, sir, I would just say that's the standard line.

01:55:16.000 In Police State 3, I point out, the left wing says, "Okay, there is a new world order, but let's make it liberal and

01:55:24.000 loving."

01:55:25.000 right wing says oh no there is a new world order but it's going to be

01:55:29.000 So they bypass the discussion of, we don't want a new world order, to, okay, there is going to be a world government, let's accept it, let's have a debate about how the table's going to be set.

01:55:42.000 So, that's a wheel, then a wheel, whereas five years ago we talked about a New World Order, it didn't exist, we were kooks, now, oh yeah, there's a New World Order, it's just what type do you want?

01:55:52.000 Go ahead.

01:55:53.000 Alex, yeah.

01:55:54.000 Have you heard of a neoconservative called Roger Kimball?

01:55:58.000 No.

01:55:59.000 Well, they had him on it.

01:56:00.000 I think he's a low-level neocon, but they had him on.

01:56:03.000 And we've got here, the presenter of the show, it was Gavin Esler last night, he says, I mean, that's obviously true, isn't it?

01:56:08.000 the globalization means Americanization and American dominance. I mean that's

01:56:12.000 obviously true isn't it? Kimball says I think it's in part true.

01:56:16.000 I think it's also true that they welcome it.

01:56:17.000 Americanization means liberty.

01:56:19.000 Esler goes on, why does United States stroke globalization mean liberty, as you asserted?

01:56:24.000 And he comes back, and Roger Kimball, a neoconservative, says, well, yes, because I believe that these poor countries that you just mentioned, the people in these countries, should every morning get down and say a prayer for the fact that America is the greatest power at the moment, because it's a power that is working to make them more prosperous and more secure.

01:56:43.000 And I can tell you from the United States, this is not the U.S. 0.65

01:56:46.000 government saying this.

01:56:47.000 It's private banks hijacking us out of Europe.

01:56:51.000 The Dutch, the British Royal Family, the Rockefellers, the Crumps, the Warburgs, the classic names.

01:56:56.000 And they're using America as the bad cop, as their muscle, to take over the world. 0.96

01:57:03.000 And this is just thoroughly disgusting.

01:57:05.000 And when they claim they're bringing liberty, let me tell you, they're getting rid of our freedoms and our precious Bill of Rights here.

01:57:11.000 So how dare these anti-American, gun-grabbing neocons claim they're bringing the world liberty.

01:57:17.000 All they're doing is bringing them puppet dictatorships and tyranny. 0.83

01:57:21.000 Alex.

01:57:23.000 Yes.

01:57:24.000 There's one more thing I just want to say to you.

01:57:26.000 Would it be possible to speak to you in the break?

01:57:28.000 Because I want to tell you something.

01:57:29.000 I'm working on something right now.

01:57:31.000 And I can't talk about it over the air, but it may actually blow a lot of stuff wide open.

01:57:34.000 So perhaps you could contact me.

01:57:37.000 Sure, sure.

01:57:38.000 I'll talk to you during the break.

01:57:39.000 Everybody will call and want to do this, but I do it on occasion.

01:57:42.000 Sure, I'll talk to you during the break and find out what's on your mind.

01:57:46.000 Thanks for the call, John.

01:57:48.000 I'll talk to you here in just a second during the break.

01:57:52.000 And then I will come back and talk to Ted, Sheila, and many others.

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02:04:54.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ted in Texas.

02:04:57.000 Ted, you're on the air.

02:04:58.000 Welcome.

02:04:59.000 Hi, Alex.

02:04:59.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:05:00.000 You bet, sir.

02:05:01.000 And also, thanks to you and GCA.

02:05:03.000 I listen to you guys all the time now, ever since I found out.

02:05:06.000 What's really bad is that most people have no idea about this radio station or your show, and it's just kind of sad to talk to people and try and tell them.

02:05:14.000 They have no clue.

02:05:15.000 Well, at least they're learning. 1.00

02:05:16.000 We were all dumb as dirt once ourselves. 0.99

02:05:19.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:05:20.000 I just want to say, I want to get you or somebody needs to get you on a symposium over at UT.

02:05:26.000 I mean, I go to these things and they're there talking about this stuff and I just love to see you be able to talk to these people.

02:05:32.000 Let me tell you the difference.

02:05:34.000 At UT, It's like the last caller talking about the big, you know, anti-globalist on TV saying, we want, okay, we admit there's a global government, let's democratize it.

02:05:45.000 See, they've sidestepped the debate of, we don't want a new world order, to, okay, will it be liberal or conservative, again in that phony paradigm.

02:05:54.000 And I've watched the symposiums at UT, on cable, The Noam Chomsky's, the professors, the rest of them, and it's all a phony left-wing paradigm.

02:06:03.000 I do need to come talk to UT, and if they invite me to talk to a big enough crowd, I'll come do it.

02:06:09.000 I've actually spoken at UT twice before.

02:06:11.000 Wow.

02:06:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I went to one with Nathan Sayles.

02:06:15.000 He was one of the lawyers who wrote the Patriot Act.

02:06:19.000 He was one of the guys who wrote it.

02:06:21.000 Just listen to this guy talk.

02:06:22.000 I mean, it's crazy. 0.97

02:06:24.000 He's pretty much brainwashed, I think.

02:06:25.000 I mean, because after the show, they were talking about that guy Padilla, who was arrested under the Patriot Act and held without charge.

02:06:31.000 I don't know if this guy's guilty or not, but he's held without charge.

02:06:34.000 He doesn't get a jury.

02:06:35.000 He doesn't get a lawyer.

02:06:36.000 He doesn't get anything.

02:06:38.000 Yeah, and after the conference, we were asking questions to him, and there's a little crowd around him asking him questions, and we said, well, you have this guy, and you're punishing him, but you're not telling him why he's being punished.

02:06:48.000 And he interrupted us.

02:06:49.000 He said, oh, he's not being punished.

02:06:51.000 I mean, that's his mind state.

02:06:52.000 This guy's being held and he can't contact anybody and he's not going to have a trial.

02:06:57.000 And they're saying it's going to be for gun ownership in their own documents.

02:07:00.000 They're saying it's going to be for not handing over your land to the government.

02:07:04.000 It's going to be for everything.

02:07:06.000 Everything in Section 802.

02:07:07.000 Any misdemeanor, you can be secretly arrested, secretly executed.

02:07:12.000 Mainstream news articles on Infowars.com right now.

02:07:17.000 Headline, U.S.

02:07:18.000 announces death camps.

02:07:22.000 Does that make you angry?

02:07:25.000 Wow, well, and another thing I wanted to say was that I'm trying to like when I try and tell my parents about just to like listen to this show and like even adults around me to listen to this show or listen just to GCN in general.

02:07:36.000 I try to tell them this, and they just kind of have this knee-jerk reaction of doubt with it, you know?

02:07:41.000 Yeah, and anybody that criticizes the government's crazy, government's never done anything wrong, government hung the moon, government made the oceans, government is just perfect, let's submit to it.

02:07:54.000 Okay, well your parents are going to enjoy their 501k being taken, their pension funds, they're changing the rules where your parents won't own their pension funds, and They can thank the government for that, too, and they can thank them for the trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon, and they can thank them for everything.

02:08:10.000 Thanks for the call, Ted.

02:08:13.000 Sheila in Missouri.

02:08:14.000 Sheila, you're on the air.

02:08:15.000 Go ahead.

02:08:17.000 Alex, how are you today?

02:08:18.000 I'm pretty good, Sheila.

02:08:19.000 How are you?

02:08:20.000 Well, being followed.

02:08:24.000 Monday, I took a trip to town.

02:08:28.000 And I was pulled over by a state trooper.

02:08:31.000 He was doing his, uh, I don't know what.

02:08:34.000 He never gave me an explanation.

02:08:35.000 He was just pulling people over.

02:08:37.000 He was standing in the middle of the highway and asking to see their driver's license.

02:08:44.000 So he had a gentleman on the other side of me looking at his license and he told me to give him my license.

02:08:53.000 And I said, no sir, I do not have one.

02:08:57.000 So he told me to pull over to the side of the road, and I did.

02:09:00.000 He came back to me, and he noticed that my son and I both had our seatbelts on.

02:09:05.000 And he said, you want to tell me why you don't have a license?

02:09:08.000 And I said, yes sir, I believe in the Constitution of the United States.

02:09:13.000 And I also believe in the Bible.

02:09:15.000 My husband owns this truck.

02:09:17.000 He gives me permission to drive it.

02:09:20.000 So therefore, unless he tells me to get a driver's license and until you show me where the Constitution of the United States says that I have to have a driver's license or a license at all to operate something that my husband owns and gives me permission to use, then I'll go get one.

02:09:38.000 He laughed at me and then asked for my insurance papers.

02:09:43.000 I said, I'll allow you to see those.

02:09:45.000 That's fine.

02:09:46.000 I showed them to him.

02:09:48.000 He looked them over.

02:09:49.000 And he laughed at me again, handed me the insurance form, and said, well, I could stand here and debate with you over the Constitution of the United States, but I don't have that kind of time today.

02:10:09.000 So you can just go on.

02:10:14.000 I'll tell you what's happening is, you've got him out there in the middle of the highway.

02:10:19.000 The federal government has their click it or ticket program.

02:10:23.000 They are demanding that the states carry out tens of thousands of warrantless checkpoints, safety checks, and part three of the four-part plan in the federal register, and it's in my film Police State 2000, made in 99, it says in there, That this is to train you for internal checkpoints, train you to be taxed and traced to drive your car, and he was out there with no probable cause, randomly stopping vehicles, and I don't care what court tells him what, the courts can say black people are slaves, I say that's a fraud too, the courts can say that 0.62

02:11:06.000 You know, that we don't have any rights, but that's a fraud.

02:11:08.000 And he can laugh all day about what our veterans fought and died to preserve and protect and defend. 0.96

02:11:14.000 And he is a shameful creature.

02:11:16.000 But you ought to be glad he didn't beat you up and take you to jail. 0.90

02:11:19.000 You know, they did that to Abby Newman. 0.95

02:11:21.000 Right, and that's what I was really expecting.

02:11:23.000 By the way, you know now they took her daughter's children and are trying to take her younger daughter, CPS is, all because she sued the government over that warrantless checkpoint that we've all seen on video in the road to tyranny.

02:11:35.000 So that's how corrupt this government is.

02:11:37.000 Exactly, and I think he would have done something had I been alone.

02:11:42.000 But I had my son with me, and I really think that he would have done more if I hadn't had my son with me.

02:11:50.000 But it was real funny flushing America down the toilet.

02:11:54.000 Exactly.

02:11:55.000 And my son, he was just... He's 11 and he just couldn't believe it.

02:11:59.000 He said... Well, by the way, according to the Supreme Court and the laws...

02:12:03.000 If it is a general agreed-upon conveyance of the day, you do not have a license to use the roads as part of your right to travel, but under U.S.

02:12:12.000 Code, the automobile is considered the unusual conveyance under the 1918 Supreme Court ruling, because back then cars were still rare.

02:12:21.000 Right.

02:12:22.000 So that's why you can still legally and lawfully ride a horse down the side of the road.

02:12:27.000 Right.

02:12:27.000 That's why until a few years ago you could drive your tractor or your farm equipment because it was still considered to be part of agriculture or the general conveyance.

02:12:37.000 Now they're trying to even change that.

02:12:40.000 But it's not law, it's color of law and practice.

02:12:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:46.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:12:47.000 Thank you.

02:12:48.000 By the way, I have another mainstream news article where the governments of the U.S., the U.K., and Australia admit they plan to start taxing you to drive your car with satellite tracker boxes.

02:12:59.000 The hardware is already in all new automobiles in the U.S.

02:13:02.000 They put in the infrastructure first.

02:13:04.000 It's only a few years away unless you fight it.

02:13:07.000 You'll be paying 65 cents a mile to drive.

02:13:09.000 If you doubt me, it's right here in the article.

02:13:11.000 We'll get to that and a lot more and more of your calls.

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02:17:38.000 Let's go back to calls, and I'm coming back in the next segment, going straight into this mountain of vital news that, believe me, you don't want to miss.

02:17:44.000 Mark in Colorado, then Mike in Illinois and others.

02:17:46.000 Mark, you're on the air.

02:17:47.000 Welcome.

02:17:49.000 Hello, Alex.

02:17:50.000 I had a question for you regarding the construction of the World Trade Center towers.

02:17:55.000 I've been doing a little bit of research.

02:17:57.000 About the way they were constructed.

02:17:59.000 And I know, of course, as you do, that the buildings were destroyed by explosives, primarily.

02:18:05.000 And that the crashes of the airliners were nothing but a ruse to confuse the American people, and to use as an excuse.

02:18:12.000 And in my research, I've discovered, of course, that the official government version of the destruction of the buildings includes a theory called the Trust Theory.

02:18:23.000 And that, of course, is the one that says that That the buildings essentially had very weak trusses between the inner cores and the outer columns.

02:18:32.000 Yeah, they claim that the lattice structure of the building did that, but the designer of the building has said years before, and the design clearly was so, a large passenger liner could hit it without any real structural damage, because it already had a problem with a B-17, or was it a Liberator, Hitting the Empire States Building during heavy fog during World War II.

02:18:59.000 Right.

02:18:59.000 It was in 1945.

02:19:00.000 It was a B-17 that hit the Empire State Building and destroyed 23 floors.

02:19:06.000 Of course, it didn't collapse.

02:19:07.000 It burned, but it didn't collapse, and it caused extensive damage.

02:19:10.000 Also, I would continue to add to all of this that firefighter engineering, the oldest firefighter organization and publication in the country, says that it is impossible, says there's a cover-up, The second tower imploded and fell faster than the 1300 plus story building could fall according to the laws of gravity.

02:19:30.000 Only if there were explosives beneath it blowing it out could that have happened.

02:19:34.000 And building 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft but caught fire in the afternoon and an hour later imploded and fell in 3.2 seconds which was also impossible.

02:19:45.000 A bowling ball doesn't drop that fast.

02:19:48.000 I mean, it's all pretty bogus.

02:19:48.000 Right.

02:19:50.000 Minoru Yamasaki and Associates basically provided the design architecture for the World Trade Center.

02:19:57.000 And I've done some research on the Internet.

02:19:58.000 I can't find anything regarding the actual architectural plans anywhere.

02:20:04.000 They just disappeared.

02:20:06.000 uh... every rock and thunder the architect of record but nobody can

02:20:09.000 snow where they are are you look up any website or any uh... basically any uh... search engine to try to find

02:20:15.000 plans for these buildings and the northbound because well obviously nobody wants to

02:20:20.000 know how they were really constructed because of the truth came out

02:20:23.000 and the official government version couldn't be substantiated sir

02:20:28.000 there had never been a steel frame building uh... there have been dozens of hotel fires other big

02:20:34.000 buildings that burned for days, killed dozens of firefighters.

02:20:37.000 They never collapse.

02:20:39.000 They don't collapse.

02:20:40.000 They don't do that.

02:20:43.000 And why did they take the steel away?

02:20:45.000 Why did the FEMA ban photography? 0.52

02:20:47.000 Why did they ship it to China?

02:20:49.000 Oklahoma City bombing.

02:20:50.000 They imploded the building weeks after.

02:20:52.000 Took it to a Wackenhut landfill.

02:20:55.000 Buried it under guard with M16 and MP5 toting.

02:20:59.000 Private guards to this day.

02:21:01.000 The Waco Church Records Vault, the only concrete part of the building where the women and children were hiding out.

02:21:06.000 It had a hole blown in the top.

02:21:08.000 That was admitted and dealt the force documents. 0.75

02:21:10.000 They went in and pulled triggers and killed them.

02:21:13.000 Man put a sack full of explosives on top.

02:21:15.000 We have photos of that.

02:21:17.000 I've talked to the cement truck drivers in Waco.

02:21:20.000 They took the rubble of that, poured it in a landfill, private landfill, and poured, for days, concrete in it and over it to mix it with the chunks.

02:21:31.000 Now that's what a criminal does, is cover up the evidence of their crime.

02:21:36.000 Absolutely.

02:21:37.000 I guess my question for you, and I know it took a long time to get to this, but my question was, do you know of anyone who has plans to these buildings, the World Trade Center Towers?

02:21:47.000 I mean, I would love to get my hands on them.

02:21:49.000 Yeah, I know they've been studied, sir, and I know that they're in university architecture classes on disk and in books.

02:21:57.000 I would imagine that the University of Colorado That Denver would have the plans, detailed plans of World Trade Center 1 and 2 Tower, as well as the other buildings of the complex.

02:22:09.000 That's awesome.

02:22:10.000 I would almost guarantee that.

02:22:12.000 I'm going to check that out.

02:22:13.000 I mean, I know about World Trade Center 7.

02:22:15.000 We have a book that's a hundred and something pages long, hundreds of color photographs and diagrams with the architecture of the building showing how it was blown up.

02:22:25.000 It's called Painful Questions.

02:22:28.000 I've actually got that book.

02:22:29.000 It's by Eric Huffschmid.

02:22:30.000 I picked that up from him.

02:22:31.000 It was one of the first things I bought off their website.

02:22:32.000 It's a very, very good book.

02:22:35.000 It's not described in the internal structures other than trusses, so I'm trying to find more information so I can share this with friends.

02:22:44.000 You're doing a great job, Alex.

02:22:45.000 I really appreciate it.

02:22:46.000 Thank you.

02:22:46.000 All right.

02:22:47.000 Thank you, Mark, for the call.

02:22:48.000 Mike and Owen, I will talk to you, then I'm going straight into all this news.

02:22:51.000 There it is, voluminous amounts of it, all vital.

02:22:55.000 From the economy to satellite tracking and taxation of your cars, give your face maximum big brother.

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02:24:04.000 We're about to go to Mike in Illinois and then I'm getting into a bunch of the news that has stacked up here that is so important that we cover here on the air in the last 27 minutes, 26 minutes that we have remaining in this worldwide broadcast on this Thursday.

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02:28:00.000 Alright, let's go ahead and take another call.

02:28:05.000 Let's talk to Mike in Illinois.

02:28:06.000 Mike, you're on the air.

02:28:07.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:28:08.000 Alex, how you doing?

02:28:09.000 Bob, how you doing?

02:28:10.000 Just this past Sunday, I took the Road to Tyranny film, which I have just gotten last week.

02:28:15.000 I ordered it.

02:28:16.000 And showed it to my church congregation.

02:28:18.000 About 28 people showed up.

02:28:21.000 They were baffled by it.

02:28:22.000 They were astounded.

02:28:23.000 Thought it was a very good film.

02:28:25.000 I'd encourage anybody out there who hasn't seen it yet to go ahead and get it.

02:28:28.000 So, we found 90% wake-up rates to people that see the film.

02:28:32.000 What percentage of the 22 would you say woke up?

02:28:36.000 There were 28 people.

02:28:37.000 I'd say probably 20 of them at least.

02:28:40.000 I was talking to a gentleman, Alex, and I want to ask you a question.

02:28:43.000 That his brother was an ex-CIA agent.

02:28:45.000 This guy was about 70 years old.

02:28:47.000 He's a member of my church.

02:28:49.000 And, um, I'm just, Alex, I want to ask you a question.

02:28:51.000 I know back when the election, the big election fraud scam with, uh, with Gore and Bush and all that, when you were saying, well, you know, voter, voter, voter, new services and all that was all, uh, I just want your angle on something.

02:29:04.000 And he brought up a good point.

02:29:06.000 Um, isn't it possible that the, the new world order wanted Bush in there rather than Gore?

02:29:10.000 And that was a botched election.

02:29:12.000 Being that Bush's brother was in Florida, and they knew they had to get Bush in there to stage this Iraqi war that's been planned since 1998, or longer than that, Alex, but according to what I've heard.

02:29:28.000 Well, they have their own documents.

02:29:30.000 The Project for a New American Century written by Rumsfeld and Bush.

02:29:34.000 So, I mean, being that they're both puppets, they knew that Bush would be the better one of the two to get in there.

02:29:34.000 Right.

02:29:39.000 Because he's a Trojan horse conservative and would act as a sleeping gas to make conservative America go to sleep.

02:29:46.000 Right.

02:29:47.000 So, do you believe that there was some fraudulent activity with Gore and Bush election?

02:29:56.000 Mike, let me explain this to you.

02:29:59.000 I only deal in things I can prove.

02:30:03.000 And occasionally I'll speculate, very rarely.

02:30:06.000 And if I do, I'll tell you I'm speculating.

02:30:10.000 I know that the military industrial complex, without a shadow of a doubt, carried out September 11.

02:30:16.000 I know they carried out Oklahoma City.

02:30:18.000 I know they killed Kennedy.

02:30:20.000 I know that voter news services took over two weeks after they blew his head off in Dallas, Texas.

02:30:26.000 I know that it's had different names.

02:30:28.000 I know that Voter News Services, that night, announced that Al Gore was the President.

02:30:36.000 Okay?

02:30:37.000 And then they announced that Bush was the President.

02:30:39.000 And then they announced that Al Gore was the President.

02:30:42.000 And it went back and forth.

02:30:43.000 And I studied it.

02:30:44.000 And I studied it.

02:30:45.000 They caught Democrats in Florida, one legislator, with voting machines in his car, cramming the ballots.

02:30:53.000 They caught Republicans taking tens of thousands of people's names off the ballot.

02:30:58.000 They have a CIA front company, Choice Point, manipulating things.

02:31:04.000 Both sides were in some type of battle.

02:31:08.000 We saw an internal fight in the New World Order for what Mafia Don front man would be over the North American governorship.

02:31:18.000 That's what they call it.

02:31:21.000 Now, I don't know if that was contrived, because out of that crisis, they got a four-plus-billion-dollar package passed with Chuckie Schumer authoring it, Bush signing it.

02:31:32.000 To federally put in and fund touchscreen election systems that are totally fraud-based, absolutely documented, no record of how you voted, it's got federal elections overseeing our local elections, a federally controlled phone line is hooked into all the precinct touchscreens.

02:31:51.000 This is the system.

02:31:53.000 So, I don't know, but I know this.

02:31:57.000 The average American, I will ask you, do you know how they announce who the winner is?

02:32:02.000 At 7 o'clock central?

02:32:03.000 No, you don't.

02:32:04.000 Did you know that in the 98 election and the 96 election, states went different directions than what VNS said and there was never an investigation, nothing was done.

02:32:15.000 In the 96 election, some of the conservative candidates actually won states and VNS said that they didn't.

02:32:25.000 Pat Buchanan actually came out and won in Arizona.

02:32:32.000 Somebody at ABC News in the 98th Congressional Election posted the exact order of the election the day before.

02:32:41.000 Someone inside, desperately like a hero, Publish the results of the election on abcnews.com a day before.

02:32:52.000 That site was saved.

02:32:53.000 That's on votescam.com and other websites.

02:32:55.000 So, there is election fraud.

02:32:57.000 This is going on.

02:33:00.000 But the different manipulations and jockeying, I don't know.

02:33:04.000 But I know there was fraud on both sides.

02:33:06.000 I know Voter News Service has not been abolished.

02:33:08.000 It's been given a new name now.

02:33:12.000 It's still in the same building with Mr. Headline.

02:33:16.000 Uh, as the head of it.

02:33:17.000 No one's allowed to go into it.

02:33:18.000 The media isn't allowed to see it.

02:33:20.000 It's like this black box, and the average American doesn't know what's inside of it.

02:33:25.000 And we're the one that votes them in.

02:33:26.000 We have no access to it.

02:33:28.000 Well, yeah, it just gives you the illusion that you're voting.

02:33:30.000 Now, what does the federalization do with the touchscreens and the federal oversight of local elections, quote, to fix the problems we saw in Southern Florida?

02:33:40.000 That now neutralizes real elections locally.

02:33:43.000 Many areas we still had real election results being posted for congressional candidates, state legislature candidates, city hall, county commissioners.

02:33:55.000 Now that's being federalized.

02:33:57.000 County clerks are being federalized.

02:34:00.000 And so that's what this four plus billion a year did that Bush just passed.

02:34:06.000 So obviously Clinton Gore had control of the White House, so VNS said that Gore had won.

02:34:12.000 And they said that Bush had won.

02:34:14.000 But then the rabbit hole gets even deeper, and we get into evidence of the CIA and Bush Sr.

02:34:19.000 meeting at Bilderberg Group meetings in 1991, Mena, Arkansas with a cocaine dealing together, George Bush protecting Bill Clinton from Hardingate, pardoning convicted cocaine traffickers and money launderers.

02:34:31.000 So they're really all together, and I tend to believe that it's all theater, sir.

02:34:36.000 Sure, absolutely, Alex.

02:34:37.000 You know, your question with me about the 28 people that saw the film, You know, Alex, I go to church and I'm a Christian, and a lot of people in my church say, oh, we've got to pray for Bush, he's doing a great job.

02:34:46.000 But I'll tell you what, there was about six men that came out of that after that film, Sunday night, and they were just like, I can't believe Bush.

02:34:53.000 And then I had told them, I said, go to infowars.com, I said, you need to know about Bohemian Grove.

02:34:59.000 This man is a Satanist.

02:35:01.000 And in my opinion, he is a Satanist, especially because of the Skull and Crossbone fraternity that him and his father were in.

02:35:06.000 Nixon was in that.

02:35:07.000 I believe Nixon was in that.

02:35:08.000 Nixon was at Bohemian Grove, am I correct, Alex?

02:35:11.000 Yeah, he's a Grove member, not a Skull and Bones member.

02:35:14.000 Okay.

02:35:15.000 Big difference.

02:35:16.000 I mean, they're all sickness, in my opinion, and that's all part of the New World Order, Alex, but I just wanted... They admit it, and they admit I snuck in and got the footage.

02:35:23.000 It's eyes wide shut for real.

02:35:25.000 and uh... what you need to do now is tell those twenty eight people

02:35:28.000 to bring one more person and you'll have uh... fifty six people next time and then tell them to

02:35:34.000 bring fifty six more you'll have a

02:35:36.000 hundred and twelve until then to bring a hundred uh...

02:35:39.000 and twelve next time you'll have two hundred and twenty four and then tell

02:35:43.000 them to bring two hundred and twenty four and uh... you'll have uh... you know the numbers just

02:35:48.000 continue from there yeah it's unbelievable alex and i'll tell you what uh... i

02:35:51.000 urge any people out there who haven't seen that video to get to get it

02:35:54.000 It's phenomenal, Alex.

02:35:55.000 The footage on there, especially with the Oklahoma City bombing, how you go into it, you start out, you go through the history of corruption in the government, and basically, problem, reaction, solution, and it's just a phenomenal film.

02:36:09.000 It's worth every minute of it, Alex.

02:36:10.000 So, what were the reactions during the film?

02:36:13.000 Were there any gasps during it?

02:36:15.000 Yeah, I mean, there were...

02:36:17.000 You know, Alex, I'll tell you what, a lot of people, especially during the Oklahoma City bombing coverage, that pretty much started out how the government was involved and how the ATF agents were not in the building when the bomb went off in the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:36:33.000 None were around and they brushed it under the rug, basically, when news people were questioning the ATF.

02:36:42.000 Where were you?

02:36:44.000 Well, we weren't in the building.

02:36:45.000 We can't no further comment about it.

02:36:47.000 Well, and as you know, the evidence gets a lot more conclusive than that.

02:36:50.000 So, folks, get the video and make copies.

02:36:52.000 Thanks for the call, Mike.

02:36:54.000 No more calls today, because I've got about 13 minutes left.

02:36:57.000 13 and a half minutes left.

02:36:58.000 I want to get into some of this news.

02:37:00.000 Top story again.

02:37:01.000 U.S.

02:37:01.000 can't rule out North Korea's strike.

02:37:03.000 Rumsfeld advisor Richard Perl says, and they've leaked the battle plan to go ahead and invade in October.

02:37:09.000 We don't know if that'll happen, but it's definitely on the charts.

02:37:13.000 NATO debates sweeping changes to be a global police body.

02:37:17.000 BBC.

02:37:19.000 A woman was fined for writing a comment on a check that she didn't appreciate the court.

02:37:24.000 And it says that in New Brunswick, New Jersey, despite the fact that a court ruling, the state judiciary, which oversees municipal courts, prohibits judges from penalizing citizens for writing comments on checks.

02:37:36.000 Court officials would not comment on why the order was not followed in this case.

02:37:41.000 She has been charged with criminal charges for her free speech.

02:37:46.000 So that is continuing.

02:37:48.000 stock loses steam and then it goes back up

02:37:54.000 they're training you to stay in the market when it takes the next big plunge

02:37:57.000 uh... i read on monday with the wall street journal said the top c_e_o_'s are 0.71

02:38:01.000 dumping their stocks during this rally this is out of c_n_n_ money stock losses coal millionaire 0.81

02:38:09.000 ranks survey says u_s_ canada

02:38:11.000 have one hundred thousand fewer millionaires in the two thousand and two despite increasing global

02:38:18.000 wealth stock losses contributed heavily to a decline the number of

02:38:23.000 north american millionaires last year even as the world's richest people are

02:38:27.000 you getting richer according to the new report Yeah, the little middle class millionaires, and that's lower middle class, you've got four or five billion and

02:38:37.000 You know, your family founded a few universities.

02:38:39.000 You're kind of mid-level.

02:38:41.000 And then if you own the private central banks and print the money and own the military, and you're so powerful people don't even know your name, like the Crumps and others, you're actually an elitist.

02:38:52.000 So, that's going on there.

02:38:56.000 And Iranian Nuclear Experts Visited North Korea Report says AFP Iranian Nuclear Experts made three secret visits to North Korea this year even as the Stalinist state faced international criticism from its nuclear arms ambitions.

02:39:09.000 A press report said Wednesday.

02:39:10.000 They have nuclear weapons.

02:39:11.000 They have Taepung Dong-2 missiles to deliver them.

02:39:14.000 UK rejects US plans of regime change in Iran.

02:39:17.000 And it says Britain and the United States disagree.

02:39:22.000 On their stance towards Iran, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw indicated on Wednesday, sometimes friends disagree, we can have an honest disagreement about our approach to Iran with the U.S.

02:39:32.000 Straw told the Parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee, we can have honest disagreements with our friends despite a hardening opposition towards Tehran by British Prime Minister Tony Blair last month.

02:39:42.000 Straw restrained Britain's line that it did not want regime change in Iran.

02:39:48.000 Well, they said that before, and then they'll come out and say they're for the war.

02:39:52.000 It's like Powell saying he's against the war, and then suddenly he's for it, and they go, oh look, even the detractors have been won over.

02:40:00.000 The two of the side of the debate in the war.

02:40:01.000 This is theater.

02:40:04.000 Absolutely incredible, and now Rumsfeld's beating the drums for war.

02:40:09.000 This is out of Reuters.

02:40:12.000 Al-Qaeda busy in Iran, Rumsfeld says.

02:40:15.000 Senior Al-Qaeda leaders were busy in Iran.

02:40:17.000 The U.S.

02:40:18.000 Defense Secretary said today amid reports of terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia were directed by a small cell in Iran.

02:40:24.000 And Iran, by the way, arrests any Al-Qaeda people.

02:40:27.000 They don't want CIA in their country.

02:40:29.000 They're a different sect.

02:40:32.000 Just from a factual standpoint, there is no question, but there have been, and are today, senior Al-Qaeda leaders in Iran, and they are busy, Donald Rumsfeld said.

02:40:40.000 But it turns out he lied about the nuclear reactors.

02:40:43.000 He said Iraq did have nuclear reactors and weapons.

02:40:47.000 I've got Cheney on tape on Meet the Press saying that.

02:40:52.000 I mean, just more lies for old, folks. 1.00

02:40:55.000 New lies for old.

02:40:58.000 And what are they doing?

02:40:59.000 Republicans limit probes on Iraq.

02:41:01.000 You mean, neocons do.

02:41:03.000 Republicans in Congress on Wednesday rebuffed Democrats' calls for an investigation into whether the Bush administration misled or inflated threats posed by Iraq before going to war in March.

02:41:18.000 Well, of course they did.

02:41:19.000 I want to tell you about satellite tracking boxes and some other key tidbits of news.

02:41:25.000 When we get back, They're going to tax you to drive your car.

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02:41:33.000 We'll be right back.

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02:44:44.000 BBC death camp, Camp Delta death camp chamber planned for American citizens as well as foreigners.

02:44:51.000 A court and execution chamber could be built at the U.S.

02:44:54.000 detention camp in Cuba under plans being drawn up by the military officials.

02:44:58.000 You will not be allowed to face your accusers, no jury, and you can secretly be arrested under the new Patriot Act and secretly executed.

02:45:06.000 This is out of the Oregonian, the case of the missing trillion.

02:45:09.000 The Pentagon's own inspector general admits that the department could not account for more than a trillion dollars of the past spending, and that came out.

02:45:18.000 The Pentagon is asking for another $400 billion for the next budget.

02:45:21.000 It cannot account for $1 trillion, and that this is all part of compromising people in the military and the government through corruption.

02:45:28.000 Gun control bill would subject firearms to consumer safety screening.

02:45:32.000 It already happens, but the Feds will be able to ban any gun.

02:45:34.000 They say it's unsafe.

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02:45:38.000 All about shutting down the Second Amendment. 0.93

02:45:41.000 Also, Engineer blows whistle over tainted voting booths, files lawsuit.

02:45:46.000 This story is from 2600 News.

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02:46:00.000 Go ahead for stem cell research.

02:46:02.000 BBC scientists who cloned Dolly the sheep have been granted a license allowing them to carry out controversial stem cell research or cloning of embryos.

02:46:12.000 That's what it says.

02:46:14.000 So they're already doing the human cloning.

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02:46:20.000 It's all just Word Games, Applied Digital Solutions, the implantable microchip company, the Business Journal of South Florida reports to sell 2.5 million shares to help pay debt.

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02:46:35.000 This is by VNU Net, UK Technology News Reviews and Downloads, Government Moles GPS-based car tax plan.

02:46:45.000 Already implementing it in London and major cities.

02:46:48.000 Now they want it to go nationwide.

02:46:49.000 UK cars can be fitted with satellite receivers.

02:46:52.000 The hardware is already in the cars, I would add.

02:46:55.000 As part of a pay-as-you-drive tax scheme that will further boost the rapid advance of GPS technology, the plan is currently being considered by Transport Minister Alistair Darling.

02:47:05.000 If approved, the country's 24 million cars would be tracked using GPS technology and taxed individually depending on when and where and how much they have driven.

02:47:13.000 65 cents a mile is being recommended during peak times, 2 cents a mile US, and it calculates out the pounds.

02:47:22.000 And they're going to start it with the police and just attract them and then the bus drivers and the lorry drivers to pay their taxes, but it'll be for everybody else, for all citizens of the country.

02:47:32.000 And the insurance union will start testing pay-as-you-drive insurance, and they're pushing it.

02:47:39.000 Progressive Insurance wants to make it the law here.

02:47:42.000 You see how this works?

02:47:44.000 All new cars already have the hardware in them, and all GM cars are now having the full system already in them, and you foolishly accept it!

02:47:53.000 You better have them remove it out of the car when you buy it, or refuse!

02:47:58.000 Here's one out of Arab News.

02:47:59.000 Tracking a vehicle is made possible.

02:48:00.000 A Saudi economic onset company has manufactured a satellite-based automatic vehicle location system that makes it possible to track movement of a vehicle on a bilingual Arab-English digital map.

02:48:10.000 The speed at which the vehicle is traveling and the route it is following.

02:48:13.000 And of course, it's for taxation.

02:48:16.000 There's lots of propaganda every day of how it'll stop all the criminals and cops will be able to turn your cars off and already some manufacturers are putting kill switches in and the cops have digital codes to kill your car via helicopter as they fly above you.

02:48:29.000 I mean it goes on and on and on and on.

02:48:34.000 And again, the U.S.

02:48:35.000 urges smallpox vaccines for monkeypox exposure.

02:48:38.000 Oh, nobody would take the shots?

02:48:39.000 Well now, maybe you need it for the monkeypox.

02:48:42.000 Go ahead and take their deadly vaccine, or the monkeypox will get you.

02:48:46.000 And Blair and Brown launch Euro campaign, trying to convince skeptical Swiss, Belgians, and British to accept the Euro.

02:48:56.000 That's from the Evening Standard.

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Alex Jones Show - June 12, 2003

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