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00:00:22.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:34.000 All right, my friends.

00:00:36.000 Big show lined up for you on this Monday, the 16th of June, 2003.

00:00:41.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:46.000 Coming up, we'll be talking about Dr. Charles Sell, the St.

00:00:51.000 Louis doctor who had exposed government corruption, so they arrested him under Medicaid-Medicare fraud.

00:00:57.000 The charge would give him two years in prison if he was convicted by a jury of his peers.

00:01:05.000 But they said that he was insane.

00:01:07.000 The medical doctor was insane, the government said.

00:01:09.000 The judge said.

00:01:10.000 The prosecution said.

00:01:12.000 So they've been drugging him with antipsychotics for six years.

00:01:18.000 And he's been refusing some of the drugs.

00:01:20.000 So they've been beating him and torturing him.

00:01:22.000 This is now admitted.

00:01:23.000 But the government says it's to keep him in line.

00:01:27.000 And it's now before the Supreme Court.

00:01:29.000 We've been covering this story the last two years.

00:01:32.000 We've had his lawyers, the different medical organizations on that are against what's happening to him, and John Stattmiller joins us in about 30 minutes with one of the news clips that sounds horrible enough with the things they've done to Dr. Sell, but the true story is actually much worse.

00:01:51.000 Then in the second hour, I've got Mr. Charlotte joining us from Harper's Magazine.

00:01:59.000 to talk about the Brotherhood, this bizarre so-called Christian cult that loves a Nietzsche and Hitler and believes that a world government must be constituted because that's how Jesus wants it to be and uh... well the CIA is involved and they control a lot of the big neocon Christian organizations and it's an obvious government front from all the evidence that's in the second hour in the third hour on Friday we talked about the homeschoolers in Massachusetts 13 and 15, where the parents refuse to take them in for standardized testing, which you shouldn't have to do.

00:02:36.000 I mean, your children are your children, and so they've now seized custody of them or are threatening to take them for good if the kids refuse to take the test.

00:02:45.000 So, no Fifth Amendment, no nothing. 0.71

00:02:47.000 You're going to do what the government says.

00:02:49.000 In fact, I've got the CPS here in the article talking about how the children belong to them and how they will follow their every order or else.

00:02:59.000 And we'll mix in a bunch of your calls as well in the next two hours and 57 minutes.

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00:03:41.000 All right, there's so much I want to get into before we get John Statmanler on to talk about Dr. Charles T. Sell and the Sovietization of America, where they just say you're crazy, Forcibly drug you forever.

00:03:54.000 In fact, the court has said he may stay in jail for life if he continues to refuse forced drugging for his trial.

00:04:04.000 For life!

00:04:04.000 He's done nothing to anyone.

00:04:06.000 Totally cogent.

00:04:07.000 They admit they've beaten him and chained him down and done all these horrible things.

00:04:11.000 So that's coming up here in about 25 minutes.

00:04:15.000 In the meantime, I want to get into the other news items.

00:04:18.000 Hamas Israel resist medias cease fire

00:04:23.000 australia expert expose iraq weapons exaggerations new army chief

00:04:29.000 help plan final assault on waco that's right this is from the associated crash

00:04:35.000 the uh... new special operations commander is going to be over

00:04:40.000 iraq in the re-education takeover there is uh... well one of the planners of barbecuing the people 0.87

00:04:47.000 inside waco inside Mount Carmel.

00:04:51.000 So that's coming up.

00:04:52.000 Just a ton of news that we haven't even gotten to yet.

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00:08:21.000 Alright my friends, Again, thank you for joining us today.

00:08:27.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:08:29.000 We're going to launch straight into the news with Hamas and Israel resist Mideast ceasefire.

00:08:36.000 Australian expert to expose Iraq weapons exaggerations.

00:08:40.000 The new army chief, the former head of special operations, is going to run Iraq.

00:08:45.000 And I guess any new operations, this guy was one of the planners of the Waco raid, so he's proven that he'll come up with battle plans to take out American citizens.

00:08:56.000 By the way, the Delta Force complained days before the raid, saying this was not their normal mission purview.

00:09:04.000 And that they knew that this was not an arrest situation.

00:09:07.000 They were being sent in to kill the Branch Davidians. 0.97

00:09:11.000 So that's who you've now got over the military takeover in the Middle East. 0.97

00:09:17.000 Also, Portugal is reeling over child sex abuse scandal.

00:09:21.000 It's claiming more and more governmental ministers and heads of media and corporations.

00:09:27.000 This side of the London Independent, that's coming up.

00:09:30.000 Another story here, U.S.

00:09:31.000 Colonel unaware of Al-Qaeda arrest.

00:09:34.000 Our government announced all these Al-Qaeda arrests.

00:09:36.000 They talked to the General, who the news said had made the arrest.

00:09:39.000 He goes, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:09:40.000 I haven't gotten word yet.

00:09:42.000 So the lies just continue.

00:09:44.000 Also, Iraq Mobile Labs, nothing to do with germ warfare, report fines.

00:09:51.000 They're now saying that North Korea has exported missiles to Iran by air.

00:09:56.000 Oh, so now both countries need to be invaded and Bush is enraging Tehran, that's the capital of Iran, by backing freedom protests.

00:10:05.000 Now it was so obvious last week, we even did a flashback on InfoWars.com where we showed three weeks ago where the Pentagon and the White House said we're going to go ahead and start destabilization operations internally in Iran and then suddenly you see riots in several of their cities.

00:10:24.000 So we'll get into that.

00:10:25.000 Iran protest at U.S.

00:10:27.000 interference.

00:10:29.000 So we also have Rumsfeld telling North Korea that the globalists may invade them as early as October with a preemptive strike. 0.85

00:10:37.000 Again, they're doing this to a country that has missiles that can reach parts of the western seaboard run by a psychotic dictator, literally psychotic, Kim Jong-il.

00:10:49.000 So they're trying to spur him to attack us.

00:10:53.000 And imagine if we get hit by a nuke or North Korea invades South Korea, the wave of false patriotism, the unifying effect, you won't be allowed to criticize the government, they're going to install the national draft, and we are off to the races.

00:11:07.000 9-1-1 was just setting up the psyche to accept a military dictatorship.

00:11:16.000 And it's going to be hard to argue with the government in a war with North Korea, slugging it out with them. 0.69

00:11:21.000 Invasion forces, tens of thousands of dead Americans, which he will guaranteed have with an invasion of North Korea. 0.73

00:11:29.000 And I mean, you can't argue that Kim Jong-il is a good guy and shouldn't be taken down.

00:11:33.000 The problem is, the government, Rumsfeld, gave him the nuclear reactors, China gave them the missile systems that Clinton gave China to help perfect their systems, and now they're a major threat.

00:11:47.000 To Japan, to all the surrounding areas, to South Korea.

00:11:53.000 They have a hundred thousand artillery pieces with a two and a half million man army pointed at Seoul in South Korea just a few miles across the demilitarized zone.

00:12:05.000 They've got artillery up on the hills aimed down at the city with precision and even if two thousand aircraft attacked, you know, more than the globalists have in their arsenal through the U.S.

00:12:18.000 military.

00:12:20.000 They could not take out all those artillery pieces in hour after hour of bombing and day after day of bombing.

00:12:26.000 And they will shell Seoul into a burning carcass. 0.96

00:12:31.000 It'll look like Dresden or London.

00:12:34.000 It'll look like Dresden when the Liberators and B-17s were hitting it in Germany. 0.99

00:12:39.000 It'll look worse than London when Hitler launched his Blitzkrieg. 0.96

00:12:44.000 So, you can really see what they're setting up.

00:12:47.000 Order out of chaos.

00:12:49.000 World War One, they try to give you a League of Nations.

00:12:51.000 World War Two, they give you a UN.

00:12:54.000 Then they say in the Globalist Policy Papers that they were going to use terror to unify us behind a world empire.

00:13:01.000 They needed, quote, Pearl Harbor size attacks or larger to get the American people behind, quote, the New World Order.

00:13:09.000 As Brzezinski and Hart and Rudman and Wolfowitz and Pearl and Jeb Bush have all said.

00:13:19.000 In their own public policy reports before 9-1-1.

00:13:22.000 So this is a horrible thing that's happening.

00:13:25.000 World War III is being set up.

00:13:29.000 And to get you behind the war, the military-industrial complex has already implemented almost all of the Northwoods U.S.

00:13:36.000 government terror plan.

00:13:38.000 Where the U.S. 0.75

00:13:38.000 government officially called for carrying out terror in the continental United States, hijacking jets, bombing D.C., all these horrible things to get us behind this war. 0.75

00:13:51.000 And it's going to kill a lot of innocent Americans, It is going to destroy our liberties.

00:13:56.000 It is going to set up more of a dictatorship through this giant federal government and FEMA and the whole nine yards. 1.00

00:14:04.000 So I'll get into some of that news in a minute, but I'm going to go ahead and talk about this on air.

00:14:07.000 I'm going to talk about it once because I told one or two people this weekend and already it was metastasizing into rumors.

00:14:17.000 I was out with a friend on their boat this weekend on Lake Travis And on Saturday, Saturday night, we were out there fishing.

00:14:28.000 We were going back to the dock and we came across a pontoon boat that was dead in the water.

00:14:34.000 And there were about four foot waves.

00:14:36.000 There had been some storms earlier in the day and we couldn't tie up alongside of it.

00:14:40.000 The pontoon was in the middle of the lake.

00:14:43.000 And I jumped in to swim over and try to fix their boat.

00:14:48.000 No good deed goes unpunished.

00:14:51.000 And I, of course, the boat was turned off, it was dead in the water.

00:14:54.000 I started climbing up on the side of the pontoon boat that has aluminum siding on it, and I slipped.

00:14:59.000 Once I got up on the boat, I slipped, and my hand caught in between the railing, and it basically cut my finger off.

00:15:07.000 So, I've had a really enjoyable weekend, and it feels real good because I'm not about to take painkillers, and that'd impair my judgment.

00:15:15.000 And so, as I sit here now, they did a good job basically reattaching my finger.

00:15:22.000 The best description of it, you ever seen Terminator 2 where Schwarzenegger, you know, is the robot, the android, and he cuts his flesh off and pulls the flesh off his arm and there's the skeleton under it?

00:15:33.000 Well, that's basically what happened.

00:15:34.000 It just peeled the skin off my finger down to the end, down to the bone.

00:15:38.000 It was just a bone.

00:15:39.000 It was like taking a chicken leg and pulling the meat off of it from top to bottom.

00:15:44.000 But, uh, they did a great job putting it all back on.

00:15:46.000 I'm moving it.

00:15:47.000 Other than some throbbing pain, it's, uh, good.

00:15:49.000 Other than, you know, seeping and continual bleeding.

00:15:52.000 But, uh, I just want to thank God that it didn't cut my finger off.

00:15:56.000 Because it did put large indentions in the bone.

00:15:59.000 I want to thank God that, uh, it didn't cut my finger completely off.

00:16:04.000 You know, the bone itself.

00:16:07.000 And, uh, that's good.

00:16:08.000 But you know how these rumors end?

00:16:10.000 By the time people are done hearing about it, it'll be that I was run over by a boat and cut in half, and then flying saucers lifted me back out of the water, and, you know, there were fourteen hobgoblins jumping around.

00:16:22.000 That's the way stories work.

00:16:23.000 You know, a patriot can go on vacation for a week and come back and hear that they've been assassinated.

00:16:28.000 And I guess, in a way, that's a good thing, because people are all watchful for folks that are in the movement of real news and information, but, uh, Yes, I decided to go out and do some fishing with a friend, and then I did my good deed and jumped off the boat to swim over and help these people, and almost cut my finger off.

00:16:47.000 So, that was a lot of fun Saturday.

00:16:52.000 But, it could be worse.

00:16:54.000 You know, life is short.

00:16:55.000 This shows us how People are worried and scared of fighting the New World Order, scared of getting involved, scared of telling the truth, scared of what their neighbors will think of them if they say the government's corrupt.

00:17:06.000 Ooh, what a surprise.

00:17:08.000 Oh, what an incredible, original idea that governments might do something wrong and might need to be watched.

00:17:14.000 Read the Declaration of Independence.

00:17:16.000 But they will get fearlessly in their cars, in boats, they will water ski, they will snow ski, they will ride bikes down the side of the highway, Incredibly dangerous things.

00:17:31.000 We do this every day because it's accepted by the society.

00:17:34.000 Everybody does it.

00:17:36.000 But then they'll be afraid to stand up against corruption, or afraid to get involved in the fight for liberty.

00:17:41.000 I mean, you could be diagnosed with cancer tomorrow.

00:17:44.000 You could have a heart attack walking into your house, or going into work.

00:17:51.000 You could die.

00:17:52.000 You could be struck by lightning playing golf.

00:17:54.000 It happens all the time.

00:17:55.000 You could drown.

00:17:57.000 So life is short, folks.

00:17:59.000 You're not here very long.

00:18:00.000 And, you know, I could have caught my arm in that thing and slipped my wrist, gone into shock, and gone to the bottom of the lake.

00:18:10.000 Out there in those big waves.

00:18:12.000 But I didn't.

00:18:14.000 And I just calmly, with the skin flopping around on the end of my finger, swam back over, got in my boat.

00:18:20.000 I'm usually pretty calm under pressure.

00:18:22.000 Again, thanks to the good Lord.

00:18:25.000 And we drove back in, 10 minutes back into the dock.

00:18:28.000 And then that was fine.

00:18:31.000 There was a big party going on at the dock.

00:18:34.000 You know, they have like a big restaurant and bands out there at night.

00:18:38.000 And I come pulling in.

00:18:39.000 There's a no-wake zone like a half mile out from the harbor.

00:18:45.000 And we come driving in and my friend Kevin was driving about, I don't know, 15 miles an hour in the no-wake zone, which it wasn't throwing much of a wake.

00:18:56.000 We had all these people mad at us, yelling, and they all ran up to the dock as we pulled up, and there was blood all over the place, and they were all yelling and cussing at me, drunk I guess, and I just held my hand up and said, hey!

00:19:08.000 Almost cut my finger off, and they all felt pretty stupid, but you know, they got the buoys out front, you're not supposed to speed into the harbor, but I was in no mood, and I rarely slip up, but I did, I apologized to those, I had some choice words for them, I'm just glad I got my finger.

00:19:31.000 My whole family's glad I didn't cut a finger off. 0.55

00:19:33.000 But that's enough about me whining about my finger.

00:19:37.000 Now we're going to get a bunch of calls, oh I'm sorry about your finger.

00:19:40.000 People are going to hear that and it's going to translate into I cut my arm off.

00:19:43.000 So please don't call about it.

00:19:46.000 No condolences needed.

00:19:47.000 It's just a funny story and people locally found out about it and before it turned into an urban legend that I got cut in half or something, I wanted to neutralize that.

00:19:57.000 Or I wouldn't have talked about it.

00:19:59.000 Alright, we'll come back and get into news.

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00:24:35.000 The globalists are going to get us into World War III.

00:24:39.000 They said that 62 countries were on their hit list.

00:24:41.000 They're moving forward to go into Syria, Iran, North Korea, and they won't list all the other countries.

00:24:48.000 We know one of them, Somalia.

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00:24:58.000 And you better believe that one of the unnamed countries on that 60 plus list is the United States.

00:25:04.000 The number one function of this war is to get us into a Pan-American Union and to merge that with the EU through all these treaties.

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00:25:30.000 99.99% said no.

00:25:33.000 Not 90%, not 80%, 99 plus percent out of hundreds of thousands of people that they wanted to, that they wanted to vaccinate, most of them refused because they found out how dangerous and how deadly all of this was.

00:25:55.000 And so, This is the reality that we're facing.

00:25:58.000 It's like when they tried to have Henry Kissinger as the head of the 9-1-1 Commission.

00:26:03.000 No one bought it.

00:26:04.000 No one went along with it.

00:26:06.000 No one agreed to this idea.

00:26:10.000 I mean, across the board, people decried it.

00:26:12.000 They knew that Henry Kissinger was a gigantic whitewasher.

00:26:18.000 They knew that Henry Kissinger had been involved in dozens of major cover-ups of the last 30-plus years.

00:26:25.000 They know that he's an intelligence agency super gopher.

00:26:29.000 And so, we just simply have to continue to discredit this system.

00:26:34.000 It's not our government.

00:26:36.000 It works for a bunch of corrupt banks that own our military-industrial complex. 0.98

00:26:42.000 And they want to train you to be slaves.

00:26:43.000 They want to train you to accept tyranny that is the complete opposite, the antithesis of what the United States of America is supposed to be.

00:26:55.000 In the United States of America, you're not supposed to have a system where Dr. Charles T. Sell...

00:27:00.000 And be arrested for Medicaid-Medicare fraud, a charge that carried two years in prison, and forcibly drugged for six years, five and a half of that in solitary confinement.

00:27:10.000 And then to have the government say, we don't care if the Supreme Court says that we can't force drug him, then he'll have to stay in prison for life!

00:27:18.000 If need be.

00:27:19.000 They said that!

00:27:19.000 They said for decades!

00:27:21.000 Until he takes the drugs.

00:27:23.000 Until he's ready for trial.

00:27:26.000 That's the Soviet Union, ladies and gentlemen.

00:27:29.000 And as evidence of his craziness on this NBC piece that we're going to air coming up in the next segment, they talked about how Mr. Sell, Dr. Sell, thinks that the government's covering up something on 9-1-1.

00:27:42.000 See, he's anti-government.

00:27:45.000 He says that there was a cover-up with Waco and the medical records.

00:27:50.000 Well, that's admitted in mainstream documentaries.

00:27:53.000 Again, you believe there's a new world order. 1.00

00:27:56.000 You're crazy. 0.99

00:27:57.000 Think about that. 0.98

00:27:59.000 I mean, all these news articles, all these government training manuals where they say there isn't a new world order, you're crazy if you say that there's a new world order.

00:28:08.000 And then you open the newspaper up and the President and his administration and the Democrats and the Europeans and all these big think tanks are calling for a new world order.

00:28:17.000 How many clips have we aired of vice presidents and presidents and CFR members and senators and Hollywood people calling for a new world order?

00:28:26.000 I have literally Hundreds of news articles that we posted on Infowars.com from Reuters, and Knight Ridder, and AP, and the Washington Post, where they call for a new world order.

00:28:40.000 But still, Rush Limbaugh has his kook detector, why crazy people, delusional people, believe in a new world order, believe in a world government, as the world government is being set up right in our faces. 0.91

00:28:56.000 And in the new system, if you believe in a corrupt court system, you believe in a new world order, you think it's taking over from their own statements, you're crazy and you need to be arrested and forcibly drugged.

00:29:08.000 Same thing happened in Russia under Khrushchev or Stalin.

00:29:10.000 Same thing happened in China under Mao.

00:29:12.000 You believe the government's corrupt?

00:29:14.000 You don't think the gulag system's a good thing?

00:29:17.000 You're grabbed, you're arrested, you're forcibly drugged, And then you're brought gibbering and foaming at the mouth before the magistrates, before the tribunal, and they commit you to a labor camp to reform you, to repair you, to fix you.

00:29:35.000 So, this is the system.

00:29:37.000 We'll come back, we'll talk to John Stadtmiller, we'll talk about Dr. Charles T. Sell, and the incredible case.

00:29:44.000 We're seeing more of this around the country.

00:29:46.000 They tried to pass a bill here in Texas to do this.

00:29:49.000 They passed another bill in Texas, by the way, in the legislature, where if you take any Medicare or Medicaid, speaking of that, they take your house.

00:29:56.000 So now you take welfare, they take everything you own.

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00:31:11.000 Now coming up we're going to talk about the case of Dr.

00:31:13.000 Charles T. Sell, the St. Louis.

00:31:15.000 Louis doctor, who was involved in some of the medical records in the Waco case.

00:31:20.000 He said the government was lying, so they charged him with Medicaid-Medicare fraud, arrested him, and six years later, they've been force-drugging him on and off again.

00:31:29.000 He's been in solitary confinement for five and a half of the six years.

00:31:32.000 They admit they've beaten and tortured him.

00:31:34.000 They say this is all part of the new policy.

00:31:38.000 And now it's in the Supreme Court, and they say even if it... Even if the Supreme Court says they can't forcibly drug, they're just gonna go ahead and hold him then, and they say it could be for life.

00:31:50.000 So you can probably imagine the ramifications of this.

00:31:53.000 We're seeing similar cases all around the country that haven't gotten as much attention.

00:31:58.000 I have listened to interviews online with Sell, with his lawyers.

00:32:02.000 I've had his lawyers, his doctors, his psychiatrist on years ago.

00:32:06.000 The guy is completely sane.

00:32:07.000 He's had like five psychiatrists look at him.

00:32:09.000 He's totally sane, totally cogent, and it doesn't matter to the government. 0.92

00:32:14.000 They just say, you're crazy, it's the new Soviet system.

00:32:17.000 We got John Stattmiller joining us to talk about that.

00:32:19.000 Before we go to John, and then in the next hour, I want to remind you we've got the Harper's Writer coming on to talk about this bizarre so-called Christian group with CIA connections with all these members of Congress that are members that call for the New World Order, that call for a world government run by a secret brotherhood.

00:32:39.000 Jesus wants a world government and they think Hitler and Nietzsche are good. 0.88

00:32:44.000 This is public.

00:32:46.000 We'll talk about phony Christian organizations like this. 0.99

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00:32:53.000 World Net Daily and the Metro West News have written stories about it where they said, you've got to give your kids to us for testing.

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00:34:54.000 Joining me is talk show host John Stattmiller with his own show from 4 to 6 p.m.

00:34:59.000 weekdays, weeknights here on the network.

00:35:01.000 I do a Saturday show with him, Real Talk Radio, from 1 to 4 p.m.

00:35:07.000 John, on the Saturday show you aired a clip of this and you talked about it.

00:35:15.000 Tell us about the case of Charles T. Sell, the doctor who said the government was corrupt, so now he's in a gulag.

00:35:22.000 Tell us all about it, John.

00:35:24.000 Well, it's interesting, Alex.

00:35:25.000 This is the gentleman that was given notice.

00:35:29.000 He was in the Army at the time, in the Reserves.

00:35:33.000 They wanted him to come down to Waco to do the forensic work for dentures, so on and so forth, teeth, you know, to identify bodies.

00:35:42.000 Now this is before the Branch Davidians decided to kill themselves, burn themselves, according to the mainstream press and all the findings of government panels that the Davidians actually committed suicide.

00:35:55.000 But then their own declassified Delta Force documents show they went in and killed them.

00:35:59.000 Exactly.

00:36:00.000 So here's this dentist.

00:36:01.000 He's in the Army Reserve.

00:36:03.000 The FBI called him down to do this forensic work.

00:36:08.000 Something happens.

00:36:10.000 He claims that he had his disposal footage of the FBI actually burning Waco down.

00:36:17.000 And then sets the weird tale of incarceration of Dr. Sell.

00:36:23.000 Now, he's been in a cell for some six years now.

00:36:28.000 The government has, as you've had as attorneys on the air, this man has been in solitary confinement at three, four years at a stretch.

00:36:37.000 It's coming up on his sixth anniversary.

00:36:38.000 He's not been to court yet.

00:36:40.000 Supposedly for... Well, John, of the six years, he spent five and a half in solitary.

00:36:46.000 But here's the government.

00:36:48.000 This guy, supposedly, if found guilty of fraud for Medicare and Medicaid, would only spend two years in jail.

00:36:56.000 He has not seen the inside of the courtroom except for a judge.

00:37:01.000 And he basically called the judge out and he said, look, he said, this is phony.

00:37:05.000 These are false charges.

00:37:07.000 I don't trust you.

00:37:09.000 And so the story goes, the judge remanded him into the care of the mental health people, and this man has not seen the light of day for six years.

00:37:19.000 Now, he's been... this Thursday edition with Stone Phillips of NBC's Dateline was nothing more than a spin.

00:37:30.000 This is getting national attention.

00:37:31.000 This case is going up in front of the Supreme Court probably by tomorrow or Wednesday.

00:37:37.000 And only on the issue if the government can drug people if their psychiatrists say that they're allowed to.

00:37:44.000 Now keeping in mind Mr. Sell going into court hyped up on psychotropic drugs, the question is Really, the legal question is, can the guy, is he cognizant, is he of his right mind?

00:37:59.000 Well, I would say that he is, but that's not good enough for the government.

00:38:02.000 Well, John, let me add a caveat to this, too, that we covered Saturday.

00:38:06.000 And this is all mainstream, folks.

00:38:07.000 This is all out in the open.

00:38:10.000 They say that even if the government says they can't force drugging, then he's going to stay in prison for the rest of his life, quote, getting him ready for trial.

00:38:19.000 This is pure textbook Stalinist Russia.

00:38:22.000 Well, we have the clip if you're ready to roll that, Alex.

00:38:25.000 Well, John, other points you want to add on this case?

00:38:28.000 Well, I'll tell you, let's run the video clip that I have here for the sound, and we'll make some comments after.

00:38:35.000 And again, you only caught part of this, but I got a lot of calls about this.

00:38:39.000 Here it is, folks.

00:38:42.000 This is absolutely 180 degrees away from what America's supposed to be.

00:38:46.000 Go ahead, John.

00:38:47.000 Alright, here we go.

00:38:51.000 They don't want to give me a trial, and they don't want to let me walk out of here free.

00:38:57.000 Six years after his arrest, Dr. Sell still waits for a trial.

00:39:02.000 The government says it is not legally or ethically proper to try a mentally ill man, and wants to give Sell mind-altering anti-psychotic drugs to restore his mental health.

00:39:13.000 Drugs Dr. Sell refuses to take.

00:39:16.000 So the doctor is caught, unable to go to court to prove he's innocent until he proves he's not mentally ill.

00:39:22.000 Unable to be found not mentally ill because he won't take the drugs.

00:39:27.000 Why not just take the drugs?

00:39:29.000 I've seen people here that are on these drugs and they shake and they can't read. 1.00

00:39:36.000 And, uh, it's pretty terrible and pathetic. 0.97

00:39:39.000 You could just take the drugs for a short period of time, satisfy everybody, and go stand trial. 0.95

00:39:44.000 Well, I don't know that I'll be able to take the drugs for a short period of time.

00:39:49.000 Why should I have to stand trial drug... ...and not in my right mind?

00:39:55.000 It is that question that has now gained national attention.

00:39:58.000 Should the federal government be allowed to medicate someone who is non-violent against his will?

00:40:05.000 Or should a prisoner, like Dr. Sell, be allowed to make his own decision?

00:40:09.000 That question is so significant, so important, that Dr. Sell's case has now reached the U.S.

00:40:15.000 Supreme Court.

00:40:17.000 He has a fundamental liberty interest to make the decision for himself whether or not to be medicated.

00:40:23.000 Law professor Peter Joy has written a brief for the American Civil Liberties Union.

00:40:28.000 The ACLU is just one of a number of high-profile civil rights and medical organizations that support Sell's case, saying his claim that he alone should decide whether to be medicated isn't crazy after all.

00:40:43.000 I think Dr. Sell has a right to say no.

00:40:45.000 You know, I don't care if you call me delusional.

00:40:48.000 I don't want to have these drugs coming into me.

00:40:52.000 I don't want that.

00:40:53.000 While government doctors haven't disclosed precisely what medicines they'll give Dr. Sell, his attorneys believe it will be a new class of atypical anti-psychotic drugs.

00:41:04.000 The latest independent research has raised new concerns about serious side effects from these drugs, notably diabetes, in some cases leading to death.

00:41:15.000 The bottom line is, in a way it affects all of us.

00:41:18.000 For us to make a decision for ourselves rather than the government telling us, but also the potential of actually killing us, simply to have somebody go to trial, that to me is a frightening thought.

00:41:30.000 It's very common for people with psychotic illness to be treated with anti-psychotic medication.

00:41:36.000 Former U.S.

00:41:37.000 Attorney Edward Dowd says adverse reactions to the types of drugs Cell may receive are rare.

00:41:43.000 That the drugs are safe and widely used.

00:41:46.000 That's what you do.

00:41:49.000 And I think it's the right thing to do here.

00:41:51.000 But just when you might be thinking that all the government is doing is trying to heal Dr. Cell and bring him to trial, there's one more twist.

00:41:59.000 One more reason why Cell feels he's being persecuted and conspired against.

00:42:04.000 He claims prison workers at Springfield have abused him, chained him to a slab for 19 hours, even sprayed him with scalding water.

00:42:13.000 Why did he do that?

00:42:14.000 He wanted to torment me, to hurt me, to torture me.

00:42:17.000 That's what he wanted.

00:42:18.000 Sadistic pleasure.

00:42:20.000 How long did this go on?

00:42:21.000 15 or 20 minutes.

00:42:23.000 Portions of the incidents were caught on videotape.

00:42:27.000 For years, the Justice Department has refused requests for anyone to see the tapes.

00:42:31.000 only after NBC News argued that there was no valid legal reason to withhold the tapes,

00:42:37.000 did the government turn over one small portion of heavily edited videotape to Dateline.

00:42:42.000 The inmate became agitated and broke up two food trays.

00:42:48.000 All it revealed were these shots of a prison response team assembling

00:42:52.000 and then walking to confront the doctor in his prison cell.

00:42:56.000 I need you to come up.

00:42:58.000 Go around, go up.

00:42:59.000 Dr. Sell admits he was insolent to the staff, but the tape shows nothing of what

00:43:04.000 happened to him as a result.

00:43:06.000 Dr. Sell is walked to where documents now reveal he really was chained to a slab for 19 hours.

00:43:13.000 But before we see that, the tape suddenly ends.

00:43:16.000 As for the alleged scalding, the government only released these poor quality photographs taken

00:43:25.000 immediately after the incident.

00:43:27.000 And medical records revealed that Dr. Sell did, in fact, show reddened areas on his body.

00:43:33.000 The U.S.

00:43:34.000 Bureau of Prisons would not answer any of our questions regarding Dr. Sell's case.

00:43:39.000 But the doctor says he expects more brutality and more time in solitary until his day in court comes.

00:43:46.000 If it ever comes.

00:43:48.000 I think that they're going to continue to harass me because I won't take the drugs.

00:43:54.000 That's been their modus operandi for the years I've been here.

00:43:58.000 Blowing everything out of proportion.

00:44:01.000 Trying to latch on to any straws they can to prove that I'm a violent person.

00:44:06.000 How has all this time in solitary affected your mental state?

00:44:10.000 Terrible.

00:44:11.000 I think if you locked anybody in a vault for months and months and months, it doesn't help them to get better.

00:44:18.000 If the government's real purpose here is to restore this guy to competency, essentially to help his mental health, do you think solitary confinement is the best way to do that?

00:44:28.000 No, I know from my experience that the only time you hold someone in solitary confinement is when you have to because they will not obey the rules of the prison.

00:44:37.000 Within a matter of days, the U.S.

00:44:39.000 Supreme Court is expected to rule on Dr. Sell's case.

00:44:43.000 If the justices rule that Sell can be forcibly medicated, he says he'll have no choice but to take the drugs.

00:44:50.000 But if the justices rule that Sell cannot be forcibly drugged, then his journey through America's justice system, all the way to the nation's highest court, could leave Dr. Sell in a catch-22 that almost defies description.

00:45:05.000 I think if the court says that he cannot be medicated, that he will have to wait until a court determines that he's competent to stand trial.

00:45:15.000 And then have a trial.

00:45:16.000 So theoretically, at least in some scenario, this guy could spend the rest of his life in jail?

00:45:21.000 It is not impossible.

00:45:23.000 Possibly the rest of his life in prison without ever having a trial?

00:45:28.000 Regardless of whether you think the government has secretly acted to keep him off the street, or what you make of Dr. Sell's guilt or innocence, for a man who's already lost nearly six years of his life, his home, and his freedom, You can see why it's enough to make someone like Dr. Cell believe in conspiracies.

00:45:48.000 I may spend the rest of my life probably right here in Springfield.

00:45:53.000 You know this thing, John.

00:45:54.000 This whole story, John.

00:45:57.000 Incredible, isn't it?

00:45:58.000 It's hidden in plain view.

00:46:00.000 They're obviously conspiring to keep him off the street.

00:46:02.000 He was involved in the Waco case.

00:46:04.000 That's admitted.

00:46:05.000 The guy goes down there, says the government's involved.

00:46:08.000 He's in the army.

00:46:09.000 He's hired to whitewash this.

00:46:11.000 They then come and grab him and say Medicaid and Medicare fraud.

00:46:13.000 When he started speaking out, which has been in the St.

00:46:15.000 Louis papers, they grab him.

00:46:17.000 He tells the judge, this court's a fraud.

00:46:20.000 These charges are a fraud.

00:46:21.000 It's about Waco. 0.99

00:46:22.000 They go, oh, you're crazy! 0.99

00:46:25.000 They grab him. 1.00

00:46:26.000 They've been forcibly drugging him.

00:46:27.000 They don't mention that part.

00:46:29.000 They don't mention how they beat him until he bleeds out of orifices.

00:46:33.000 That's all admitted.

00:46:36.000 And now, even if they say they can't forcibly drug him, well, now you've got to stay here in the prison, then, without your trial.

00:46:43.000 So, John, this is pure Soviet Union right here in America. 0.92

00:46:46.000 It is pure Soviet Union, and the case has drawn enough notoriety that the United States Supreme Court is going to rule, as I said on the issue, whether the government has the right to drug somebody. 0.83

00:46:57.000 Well, they've got to discredit him because, you know, they've already had, I guess, Gene Cullen, the big CIA guy over Delta Force in Africa.

00:47:05.000 He said Delta Force bragged about killing Davidians.

00:47:07.000 He went public, had to go into protective custody.

00:47:09.000 He said the FBI threatened his children.

00:47:11.000 That's the Washington Times. 0.83

00:47:13.000 I guess Gene Cullen should be arrested, forcibly drugged, and thrown into a gulag, too.

00:47:18.000 Well, the FBI sent in an undercover agent, and evidently selling this undercover agent went to a range.

00:47:25.000 A gun range.

00:47:26.000 The FBI planted the story that he had written FBI all over targets at the shooting range.

00:47:34.000 The interviewer, which is not in this clip, said, he asked the interviewer, he says, well, do you hate the FBI?

00:47:40.000 He says, of course I hate the FBI.

00:47:43.000 And the interviewer asked him, he said, why do you hate the FBI? 0.99

00:47:47.000 He said, because they're a pack of liars. 0.75

00:47:48.000 Well, they just got caught running the informants in hits from LA to Boston and controlling the drug dealing nationwide. 0.94

00:47:56.000 That's admitted.

00:47:57.000 I mean, what more do you need?

00:48:00.000 Well, all that you need is to be in a position to expose something about the government. 0.82

00:48:04.000 And you can be locked away in a gulag, proclaimed that you're crazy, and you can never go to trial.

00:48:11.000 It's absolutely incredible, ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:13.000 This is the new America. 0.51

00:48:14.000 They're trying to set precedence.

00:48:16.000 Does it make you mad?

00:48:17.000 John, stay there.

00:48:17.000 Let's talk more about this in the final segment on the other side of this break when we've got another guest coming up.

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00:51:42.000 Understand, ladies and gentlemen, that John Ashcroft says that, "Oh, the Patriot Act 1 and 2, it's only about

00:51:51.000 foreigners." 0.91

00:51:51.000 when the legislation says it's about citizens. 0.91

00:51:55.000 For any misdemeanor, they want to arrest you, secretly try you before a tribunal, and execute you.

00:52:02.000 That's what he said two weeks ago, two Thursdays ago. 0.68

00:52:04.000 He said, oh, we want to execute you for any terrorist act.

00:52:09.000 Well, any terrorist act is a misdemeanor under Section 802 of the First Patriot Act.

00:52:13.000 They broaden that to an unlimited scope.

00:52:16.000 Not even misdemeanor crimes in the new one.

00:52:19.000 And here they are, and there's thousands of people like Cell around the country.

00:52:24.000 Somebody blows the whistle on the government dealing drugs, corruption, they grab you, they say they're nuts, they tried to pass a law right here in Texas in the last legislature to do this, just where the judge says you're crazy, unlimited time in a mental institution, forcibly drugging you.

00:52:41.000 And John, here we have this guy in the Army, a dentist, Hired by him.

00:52:45.000 Sent down to Waco to whitewash.

00:52:46.000 He says there's a cover-up.

00:52:48.000 They grab his information.

00:52:49.000 Grab him, throw him in this thing.

00:52:51.000 Have the FBI make up all these lies about him. 0.99

00:52:54.000 Now they torture him.

00:52:55.000 Force drug him.

00:52:56.000 Take the Branch Davidians. 1.00

00:52:57.000 The Supreme Court ordered their release two years ago.

00:53:00.000 Because they were found guilty of having weapons in the commission of a crime, and they were found not guilty of committing a crime, so how can that happen?

00:53:07.000 They're still in prison, being tortured, beaten.

00:53:10.000 The same stories.

00:53:11.000 Since 19 what, uh, 96?

00:53:14.000 I'm sorry, 94.

00:53:15.000 You're right.

00:53:16.000 So think about this.

00:53:18.000 I mean, this is scary stuff.

00:53:20.000 Well, and Alex, I've done many stories on where prosecutors, federal prosecutors, will lie.

00:53:27.000 They'll vilify, they'll do anything that they possibly can.

00:53:30.000 The judges team up with the prosecutors to exclude evidence in cases.

00:53:33.000 There was one case down in Georgia where three guys spent years in prison with admitted, on the stand, BATF planted evidence in a supposed bomb case.

00:53:44.000 They bury pipe bombs on your land, folks! 1.00

00:53:47.000 They bury the pipe bombs, the BATF informant gets up on the stand, admits it, but the jury still convicts, and the jury polled later said, well, why did you convict?

00:53:56.000 They said, well, the government must have had something on them.

00:53:59.000 They must have been guilty of something.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, you have this mindless... Well, if they say it, I mean, so what if they plant evidence?

00:54:06.000 The government's good.

00:54:07.000 They must have done it to get the bad guys.

00:54:09.000 Well, take these sitcoms and dramas.

00:54:11.000 You know, like The Agency, where they frame people, but they're doing it because they're bad guys, and torture's good, and framing's good.

00:54:19.000 You know, they've got to play dirty to protect us, John.

00:54:22.000 Well, they've got to get their man.

00:54:24.000 A lot of these federal prosecutors, they're climbing the ranks.

00:54:28.000 They want to become judges.

00:54:30.000 They're told to get their man from the Justice Department.

00:54:33.000 And as you said, coming out of the break, Alex, we have the Department of Justice head, John Ashcroft, caught in a lie about Patriot Act II.

00:54:41.000 He said it before an investigative committee.

00:54:45.000 And it turns out that he lied to the American people.

00:54:49.000 Viet Dinh, which was a CFR member, shortly after getting in front of the cameras on C-SPAN at the National Press Club, they handed this Viet Dinh, a Vietnamese immigrant into this country, that they hung the moniker on this guy saying that the Homeland Security and Patriot Act That was all his writings.

00:55:11.000 He's the Attorney General's assistant.

00:55:17.000 They hung it on him.

00:55:18.000 A week later, the guy bails and quits.

00:55:21.000 So we have lie after lie after lie.

00:55:23.000 And the people that are doing this in the service, supposedly the American people, as soon as it's exposed, they either retire or they're fired.

00:55:31.000 Well, John, I would expand on this.

00:55:36.000 That, again, the FBI, and it's in my new film, Mainstream News, was caught running hit teams, drugs, everything.

00:55:41.000 The informants are a criminal army, dealing drugs, committing murders for them.

00:55:45.000 They run the organized crime.

00:55:48.000 And we have organized criminals with this national security cloak around them taking over.

00:55:54.000 People, you better get involved now and stand up against this.

00:55:57.000 We outnumber them.

00:55:58.000 We're the real Americans.

00:56:00.000 They're enemy combatants destroying our Republic.

00:56:03.000 Alex, I'll see you on Real Talk Radio this Saturday from 1 to 4 p.m.

00:56:06.000 Central right on this network and on WWCR.

00:56:10.000 Alright, thanks.

00:56:11.000 Thanks for joining us, John.

00:56:12.000 I appreciate you coming on to give us that update.

00:56:15.000 We've got more guests coming up.

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00:56:21.000 Some people believe a group of wealthy men control political parties, the American media, and the wealth of our nation.

00:56:27.000 Is this true?

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00:56:34.000 This is the Genesis Communications Radio Network.

00:56:38.000 Big Brother.

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00:56:49.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:56:58.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:57:07.000 In the last hour, we talked about the chilling case of Dr. Charles T. Schell.

00:57:12.000 Army doctor, army dentist, involved in Waco, exposing government involvement in the mass murder there.

00:57:18.000 They grabbed him six years ago, been forcibly drugging him for trial.

00:57:22.000 They say even the Supreme Court rules they can't forcibly drug him.

00:57:24.000 They're going to go ahead and keep him in prison.

00:57:28.000 There's already Patriot Act snatch and grab, GRU slash KGB style police operations going on everywhere.

00:57:34.000 They're trying to legitimize it to the media and the dramas on TV that torture and evil is good if the government does it. 0.98

00:57:41.000 The good news is the American people are waking up getting involved.

00:57:45.000 We have to stand up for this country against this corruption.

00:57:48.000 A couple weeks ago I read a Guerrilla News Network story and of course it all came out of a story out of Harper's, a highly respected magazine.

00:57:57.000 Jeffrey Charlotte, who's a religious writer, writes on religious organizations, wrote an amazing story about the Brotherhood.

00:58:04.000 And in the article, they talk about how Hitler was good, and Mao was good, and they like Nietzsche, and all of this, and the CIA's involved, and they got all these so-called Christian conservatives involved, and all these congressmen.

00:58:21.000 And I posted, you know, my comment that it sounds like Satanism to me.

00:58:24.000 And Jeffrey was emailing me back saying, well, no, you know, they're just weird or whatever.

00:58:29.000 Well, I mean, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's just like a government cult if you ask me.

00:58:34.000 But joining us is Jeffrey Charlotte.

00:58:37.000 He spent months in this organization. We're really honored to have

00:58:41.000 him on the show.

00:58:42.000 Jeffrey, good to have you on with us.

00:58:43.000 Hi Alex, good to be on the show. I really appreciate it. We got a break here in a few minutes and come back.

00:58:48.000 Some stations carry news right now, so whatever you say now you may have to repeat.

00:58:51.000 Tell us about yourself, about Harper's and how you got in to cover this group and what you witnessed.

00:58:58.000 Well, I'll tell you, it came about, I was researching a book I've got coming out called "Killing the Buddha,"

00:59:04.000 it's a Buddhist phrase and it's about religious groups around the country.

00:59:08.000 During that time a friend asked me to meet with a relative who was involved with the group

00:59:14.000 and he told me about it and he made it sound really fascinating, just the kind of thing I'd be curious about.

00:59:18.000 So I arranged to go down to this house This group, which I call the family, they usually call themselves the family, maintains in Arlington, Virginia for young men.

00:59:27.000 The article also says the Brotherhood, so which is it?

00:59:31.000 Well, one of the interesting things about them is that they're pretty slippery on names.

00:59:34.000 They've been called International Christian Leadership, they've been called the Fellowship, the Brotherhood, the Family.

00:59:41.000 As non-profit organizations, they tend to change their name fairly often.

00:59:44.000 It's pretty hard to... And that confuses people so folks don't see the full scope of their control.

00:59:50.000 It does seem that way, and they'll even talk about that.

00:59:53.000 They'll say, I mean, on the one hand, they'll say, we want a decentralized financial model so that no one gets too much power.

00:59:59.000 On the other hand, they'll say, hey, look, a great model for doing things is the Mafia.

01:00:02.000 You know, and that doesn't mean that they've got hitmen running around and so on, but that doesn't mean that they're doing that kind of, the financing is hard to track, a lot of the money gets handed person to person.

01:00:13.000 And there's also a secret leadership called the CORE, And in your articles you talk about how they believe that Jesus wants the secret group to secretly run the world.

01:00:22.000 This is what Jesus wants, right?

01:00:24.000 Yeah, they've got a very unorthodox Christian interpretation.

01:00:28.000 In fact, so unorthodox that they insist that it's not Christian.

01:00:31.000 That it's just Jesus.

01:00:33.000 And that Christian is a political term that describes... And some of the biggest Christian leaders, of course, are members.

01:00:37.000 We're going to come back and talk about that.

01:00:39.000 Sure.

01:00:39.000 So how long did you spend inside the brotherhood or the family or whatever you want to call it?

01:00:44.000 I spent actually a little less than a month and then after that I spent about, before and after that, I spent several months researching an archive they maintained at the Billy Graham Center.

01:00:56.000 Oh, Billy Graham.

01:00:57.000 And they also told you, didn't they, that one of them told you, we're going to get you, you're a traitor, you're going to pay?

01:01:04.000 There was a variety of responses, and I should say most of the responses were from some of the people I wrote about, where some of them were hurt and suggesting they should have come to us.

01:01:13.000 There was one guy who, or two men actually, who wrote very aggressively, one suggesting that I was a traitor and that I would be dealt with as a traitor, and another who said, you know, you are outside Christ's love.

01:01:25.000 Oh, that sounds very Christian.

01:01:27.000 All right, we'll talk about the CIA connections and all of it with Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:01:31.000 The website's www.TillingtheBuddha.com.

01:01:33.000 We've got a link to it on www.InfoWars.com.

01:01:35.000 I read the articles at www.InfoWars.com.

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01:05:03.000 A couple weeks ago I covered the article, the shocking article, out of Harper's Magazine and another interview that was done of the author by Guerrilla News Network and the good folks over there.

01:05:19.000 He's Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:05:21.000 Now, I've talked a lot about neocons, neoconservatives.

01:05:25.000 They're for open borders, gun control, supercomputers to communist China, nuclear reactors in North Korea. 0.84

01:05:33.000 They're for draconian police state legislation like Patriot Act 1 and 2.

01:05:38.000 They have bizarre Nazi connections like the Bushes and Prescott Bush running the largest Nazi bank in the United States, Brown Brother Harriman, that controlled over half of Nazi steel production.

01:05:50.000 The Skull and Bones, with all of its bizarre activities at Yale, with all these CIA directors and three Bushes. 0.86

01:05:58.000 I've infiltrated Bohemian Grove and videotaped the bizarre rituals that our world leaders do there, German chancellors. 0.99

01:06:06.000 British Prime Ministers, American Presidents.

01:06:10.000 And yeah, it all sounds crazy, but it's mainstream, ladies and gentlemen.

01:06:14.000 The Grove admitted on Trio Network, in that hour-long special that aired, Secret Realers of the World, that indeed I did sneak in and get footage of that ritual, but they're just having fun.

01:06:24.000 I guess they were just having fun in the movie Eyes Wide Shut.

01:06:28.000 But you have all these so-called Christian leaders involved in these organizations calling themselves Christians, but doing the exact opposite.

01:06:35.000 We were just talking to Jeffrey Charlotte, and he was getting into how they think that Hitler's model was good, the Mao's model was good, the Mafia's model was good, They don't call themselves Christians.

01:06:48.000 No, it's all about Jesus, and Jesus wants a secret world government with a secret brotherhood running it.

01:06:54.000 They call it the Brotherhood, the Family.

01:06:56.000 All these different names, very shadowy.

01:06:59.000 They've got a house in D.C., where we're on the radio right now, where seven to eight congressmen live.

01:07:05.000 Ash Cross connected to it.

01:07:06.000 A lot of big Christian leaders are connected to it.

01:07:10.000 Go over this in detail for us, Jeffrey Charlotte, please, because it's so important, and I would also challenge folks to go to your website, killingthebuddha.com, about your upcoming book.

01:07:20.000 Please break it down for us, what the Brotherhood is, or the family as they call it, how they operate, how it was founded, and all these shadowy connections.

01:07:30.000 Okay, the family started in 1935.

01:07:33.000 in Washington State and it started as a union busing group, small scale, Norwegian immigrant named Abraham Brady

01:07:40.000 whose biggest fear was communism. He was a minister but the main thing he thought that God was calling him to fight

01:07:47.000 communism was giving him a special commission and everyone else he

01:07:50.000 thought Christianity had always ministered to the down and out, the poor and the weak.

01:07:54.000 And he said, but what about the up and out, the powerful and the strong?

01:07:57.000 And he thought that's what Christ wanted him to do, was to go out and minister.

01:08:01.000 And so he built that up, starting there and then spreading across the country.

01:08:05.000 By the early 40s, he had a third of the Senate had attended one of his weekly meetings in Washington.

01:08:12.000 And these would be prayer meetings.

01:08:14.000 And ostensibly there would be no politics discussed, but it's all about giving you A particular worldview that's going to help you make your decisions.

01:08:21.000 And it's also about making deals.

01:08:23.000 And as they spread out internationally, these prayer groups would encompass more and more international leaders.

01:08:29.000 And they had a particular affinity for dictators and strongmen.

01:08:34.000 General Cosby Silva, who's the horrible dictator in Brazil.

01:08:39.000 General Sahardo, who's the murderous dictator, killed half a million of his own citizens in Indonesia.

01:08:44.000 These were guys that they would get into prayer cells with U.S.

01:08:47.000 congressmen And as the group has grown, it's never gotten too big, because they're not looking to convert everyone.

01:08:54.000 And that's what makes them different than your standard Christian fundamentalists.

01:08:58.000 Not to mention their view of Christ as essentially this very strong leader who should dictate every decision we make, not just moral questions.

01:09:08.000 Now, you also say that they say Christ is more of a spirit guide and that, of course, Christ's emissaries here on earth, this secret global order, will administer his kingdom here in this part of this larger global system.

01:09:24.000 Now, it's obvious from your writings and then what I've dug up since I've read your stories about this, and you were inside the group, of course, for a month and then investigated it for months before and after, That it's just an envelope, an envelope, a way for them to use Christians as a cover from the evidence I see. 0.72

01:09:41.000 They've done this in countless other organizations to put this, oh, this Christian mantle on covert activities and legitimize dictators and mass murderers. 0.95

01:09:50.000 I mean, you get into how they sit around at these dinner tables and talk about how Hitler was good and... Well, I can clarify that. 0.73

01:09:57.000 They do admire what they call the Hitler model. 0.79

01:09:59.000 That does not mean that they admire hitler's policies although they're unclear

01:10:03.000 that there's not much of a distinction so they are not anti-semitic

01:10:07.000 but they do say hitler, they say look here's what this guy

01:10:11.000 he worked with a group of five of other you know brothers, friends and look what he accomplished imagine if

01:10:15.000 we could put that model to work for christ but also

01:10:18.000 also you say jeffrey charlotte uh writer for harper's magazine

01:10:24.000 you also say in there that they uh in an interview you did for grill and his network that that

01:10:30.000 main street by the but they talk a lot about making Well, Nietzsche was insane.

01:10:35.000 He said God was dead. 0.97

01:10:36.000 He hated Christians.

01:10:37.000 I mean, you've got all these unsundry characters.

01:10:40.000 This is all they seem to talk about.

01:10:42.000 Well, I depicted a scene in which one very intelligent young guy and I had a discussion about Nietzsche.

01:10:48.000 And I should say, look, I think Nietzsche's a philosopher.

01:10:50.000 We should all study whether or not we agree with him.

01:10:52.000 I don't think that's out of line.

01:10:53.000 I don't think that's crazy.

01:10:55.000 I think what's crazy is not making the distinction between the Hitler method, so-called, or the Mao method. 0.60

01:11:02.000 You know, that was another one.

01:11:03.000 Imagine if you could take what Mao did and put that to work for Christ.

01:11:07.000 Well, you can't, because that's not a Christian goal. 1.00

01:11:10.000 And I think they don't make that distinction.

01:11:12.000 I have nothing against Christianity.

01:11:14.000 I'm not an anti-Christian writer by any means.

01:11:17.000 I want to see them.

01:11:18.000 And I think there are actually a lot of people with good hearts and good integrity within the group.

01:11:23.000 And they are not paying close enough attention to what they as a group are doing.

01:11:27.000 I mean, that's how the masons work. 0.99

01:11:29.000 You've got the low-level useful idiots that mean well that are being used by the higher-level people. 0.98

01:11:34.000 And I'm just telling you, sir, from my study, the people that are involved, this fits the model that I have seen over and over again. 0.99

01:11:40.000 And these so-called Christian leaders, a lot of them are members of this group, and they put the spin out that basically, You're not going to heaven unless you worship George Bush, and he's this ordained, great Christian man, this great leader, while the guy's a member of Skull and Bones of Bohemian Grove, and I've been on talk shows with these so-called big Christian leaders, and they will rebuke me on air for criticizing Bush about Skull and Bones.

01:12:05.000 Yeah, yeah, well, I tell you, it gets even more complicated than that.

01:12:08.000 You can find this online.

01:12:10.000 Al Gore once referred to Doug Coe, who is the leader of the family of this group, as one of his personal heroes.

01:12:16.000 So they cut across political lines.

01:12:18.000 What they're most interested in is power.

01:12:20.000 It's not even so much a particular agenda.

01:12:22.000 I mean, they like George Bush and John Ashcroft, as you mentioned, has been involved with them since 1981, when he began corresponding with the leader and meeting with him.

01:12:31.000 uh... but they also have uh... they have democratic allies too and uh... they've even you know uh... if you look at some of these leaders that they've allied themselves around the world despite their fierce anti-communism they'll even ally themselves occasionally with a communist leader.

01:12:45.000 Well I mean that's the double speak of we're against communism but we fund it We're for it, because it centralizes things, and Jesus wants centralization.

01:12:54.000 Now, Jesus Christ fought against centralized government of man.

01:12:58.000 He stood up against Rome.

01:12:59.000 He stood up against the Pharisees and Sadducees.

01:13:02.000 This is a joke!

01:13:04.000 And they talk about Christ being the spirit guide.

01:13:07.000 They say that they're not really against abortion, that other religions can do a good job.

01:13:11.000 That's what your article says.

01:13:12.000 Is that accurate?

01:13:13.000 Yeah, they do.

01:13:14.000 They definitely maintain a bit...

01:13:15.000 In as much as they have a public face, which is not very much, they're dedicated to being, in their own words, an invisible organization.

01:13:21.000 And that's not me charging them with that.

01:13:23.000 That's what they call themselves.

01:13:24.000 But in as much as they sometimes surface in the public, they have a fairly ecumenical approach.

01:13:28.000 So, for instance, you know, Suharto was an Indonesian.

01:13:32.000 We was a Muslim, you know.

01:13:33.000 And they're happy to work with him, or I just discovered some correspondence with Siad Barre, the former dictator of Somalia, who was meeting with Charles Grassley, still a senator today, Republican senator, and Siad Barre was a Muslim, of course, but he would say, yes, sure, I'll pray to Jesus, because he knows that's getting him an entree.

01:13:51.000 Into American government.

01:13:55.000 Now, what is the Cedars?

01:13:56.000 You talk about how they bring world leaders in, and how you even saw a congressman meeting with them who was basically being interrogated to be a member.

01:14:04.000 He was there presenting himself.

01:14:06.000 Let's talk about that, who the core is, the core group, it's all secret, and then some of the members of this, and some of the so-called Christian leaders today.

01:14:16.000 Sure, sure.

01:14:16.000 Well, there's a bunch of locations.

01:14:19.000 Ivanwald is the house for young men at which I live, and that's down in a sort of a cul-de-sac with a bunch of houses all belong to this, the chief one of which is called the Cedars, this beautiful old mansion built by the son of the George Mason, famous from American history, and they use that to host diplomatic events.

01:14:37.000 I was there, for instance, one day, Ed Meese, former Attorney General, very corrupt guy, was presiding over a Diplomatic breakfast with an ambassador from Rwanda, which has been one of the biggest wars on the planet right now, is involved in.

01:14:53.000 And then they also have a house in Washington, D.C., proper, where these congressmen live.

01:14:59.000 And that's where I saw Republican Congressman Todd Teahart of Kansas meeting with Doug Coe.

01:15:08.000 Congressman Tihar was very eager to prove his credentials by showing how fiercely opposed he was to abortion and to Islam.

01:15:16.000 And that was kind of a no-no.

01:15:17.000 They got upset about that.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:20.000 And Doug Coe, the leader, said that's not what we're really about.

01:15:24.000 We're just about Building what he calls a covenant.

01:15:26.000 This bond, this bond.

01:15:27.000 What about just saying we're Christian and taking over Christian organizations and having key personnel in positions of power?

01:15:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:34.000 I mean, in the documents they refer to the long-term goal as a worldwide network of 200 world leaders committed to thinking like Christ, talking like Christ, and acting like Christ.

01:15:43.000 And of course, you've got to remember their idea of how Christ acts and thinks and talks.

01:15:47.000 is not necessarily the same as that of most Christians.

01:15:50.000 In your article you say that they're all having a discussion around the dinner table and they say,

01:15:54.000 "Who had a covenant?" and they say, "Hitler."

01:15:56.000 Oh yes, very good. We will have our own covenant, Jesus, with Mao and Hitler. 0.97

01:16:01.000 I mean, this is insane.

01:16:03.000 They would not say we have a covenant with Mao and Hitler.

01:16:06.000 They say, "Like Mao and Hitler, who had a covenant."

01:16:09.000 They see that these guys, the guys who've been most effective, are these fascists. 0.99

01:16:14.000 And the Nazis, of course, were the fool society. 0.96

01:16:18.000 Illuminati, this is MSNBC, that founded the Russell Trust, 1832 at Yale. 0.98

01:16:24.000 And it's the same group, folks.

01:16:26.000 Stay there.

01:16:26.000 This is riveting, Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:16:28.000 We really appreciate you joining us.

01:16:30.000 And I want you to continue telling us the story and breaking it down.

01:16:33.000 There's so much more.

01:16:34.000 And then I want to take some calls.

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01:20:35.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:20:51.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:20:58.000 The big money of the so-called neo-con-christians.

01:21:01.000 They attack those that expose Bohemian Grove and Skull and Bones.

01:21:05.000 And I was talking to Jeffrey Charlotte, the writer for Harper's Magazine, who spent a month inside the organization in D.C.

01:21:14.000 I was talking about Bohemian Grove during the last segment.

01:21:16.000 During the break I was talking to him and learned something.

01:21:19.000 And I told you folks it was a connection to this because I've done my study of the different names, the Brotherhood, the family, all these different names.

01:21:28.000 That the founder or the prime mover of this organization in modern times does a lot of his recruiting at the Bohemian Grove.

01:21:36.000 Why don't you tell us about that, Jeffery?

01:21:39.000 That's something I learned about recently.

01:21:41.000 A man named Doug Coe, the leader of this group.

01:21:43.000 He's not the founder, but he is essentially the prime mover.

01:21:48.000 He has attended The Bohemian Grove, apparently.

01:21:52.000 And that's how he works.

01:21:53.000 He goes around the world.

01:21:54.000 He's visited every country in the world.

01:21:56.000 And he does what he calls making friends.

01:21:58.000 Oftentimes, he'll travel with a couple U.S.

01:22:02.000 Congressmen abroad.

01:22:03.000 That's very effective.

01:22:04.000 And I'm sure the Bohemian Grove is very effective, too.

01:22:06.000 This is one of the best connected guys on the planet.

01:22:09.000 And this is not me accusing him of this again.

01:22:11.000 This is people within his own group talking about it.

01:22:14.000 I've seen his correspondence with you name the political figure.

01:22:17.000 He knows him and talks to him.

01:22:19.000 And he goes in and he says, hey, look, you know, why don't you just come in and pray with my friends and I, and it'll be totally non-political, and we'll just exchange views, and you bring a person closer and closer into this covenant, this tight relationship.

01:22:33.000 Now, this is just the level they allowed you into, the documents they allowed you to see.

01:22:38.000 You were saying there was a lot of documents that you were not allowed to see, a quote about the Corps.

01:22:43.000 Well, there are a lot of... One of the things, again, and I say that these guys are not as well organized as one might fear, because the fact of the matter is they put a lot of their documents in public places.

01:22:54.000 I think they don't think they're doing anything wrong, so they're not really afraid.

01:22:58.000 Well, sir, their practice is now to hide everything in plain view.

01:23:03.000 That could be it.

01:23:04.000 That could be it.

01:23:04.000 But whatever the case may be, the documents are there and you can read them.

01:23:08.000 And, you know, when I say that anyone doesn't believe what I'm saying, go ahead, look at the documents.

01:23:13.000 Now, you were saying this congressman from Kansas is there and he's saying, hey, I'm pro-life, I'm a real Christian, I want your support.

01:23:21.000 They've got all these big Christian leaders and other senators and congressmen and women as members.

01:23:25.000 And they say, hey, don't bring up this abortion thing.

01:23:28.000 We're not really concerned with that.

01:23:29.000 We're not really after the Muslims.

01:23:32.000 Jesus is everything.

01:23:34.000 I mean, it's so obvious what's going on.

01:23:37.000 Now, who are some of the big Christian leaders that are supported and involved?

01:23:41.000 You mentioned Billy Graham.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, Billy Graham has been referred to in the documents as the core member for going back many years.

01:23:50.000 Um, Chuck Colson, who is now a big Christian leader, as it was at one point, Nixon's, you know, Chief Dirty Tricks guy actually went to jail for that, um, for I think three years and came out and founded something called Prison Fellowship Ministries.

01:24:01.000 But he's a Christian now!

01:24:03.000 We can't criticize him!

01:24:05.000 He's a Christian.

01:24:06.000 He's an interesting Christian.

01:24:07.000 I mean, I actually came across a letter from Chuck Colson to Doug Coe saying, uh, hey, our German brothers are really doing a great job, you know.

01:24:15.000 They've got, essentially saying something effective, they've got the Nazi technique. 0.85

01:24:20.000 Now, again, I want to emphasize, Chuck Colson is not a Nazi.

01:24:23.000 He's not an anti-Semite.

01:24:25.000 What these guys admire, though, is the organizing principles.

01:24:28.000 And they don't make the distinction that the organizing principles... Well, this is what they admit to you.

01:24:31.000 This is what they admit to you on the surface.

01:24:34.000 I believe that.

01:24:35.000 I believe that.

01:24:35.000 I've researched them pretty deeply and I don't think that makes them any less dangerous.

01:24:38.000 Sir, do you know who founded Skull and Bones?

01:24:43.000 I've heard of Skull and Bones.

01:24:44.000 Well, go read the MSNBC article.

01:24:46.000 It was founded by a secret German cult in the United States for the purpose of taking over the United States. 1.00

01:24:54.000 It is a fool society. 1.00

01:24:57.000 Their symbol is the swastika. 1.00

01:24:59.000 This is admitted.

01:24:59.000 It's inside the tomb.

01:25:01.000 Hitler was a member of the same brotherhood, okay? 0.98

01:25:04.000 Just want you to know that.

01:25:06.000 I will check it out when we get off the phone today.

01:25:08.000 I will check it out and do some research.

01:25:10.000 I think this group probably then might even stay clear of that, because the fact of the matter is they're not committed to anarchy principles.

01:25:18.000 What I'm saying is that they're recruiting at the Grove, they've got skull and bones people in the higher echelons, and I'm telling you... Skull and bones aren't in any powerful group in the country.

01:25:27.000 It's an association of powerful men, and you can say, oh, we're just having fun, but Powerful men hanging out together and helping each other.

01:25:34.000 But then they threatened you. 0.92

01:25:36.000 Two of them said, you better watch it, you're a traitor.

01:25:38.000 I mean... Yeah, yeah.

01:25:40.000 And a bunch of them, you know, I talked to a bunch of them and they were quite decent and they said, look, you know, I'm really upset that you did this.

01:25:46.000 This is really wrong.

01:25:47.000 It's called good cop, bad cop.

01:25:49.000 It is.

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01:25:52.000 I believe the good cops and, you know, I would say to the bad cops just what the What they would say to me is I'm praying for them.

01:26:00.000 I hope that they want to follow Christ and I hope they learn to do that.

01:26:04.000 And that involves not threatening people to say things you don't like.

01:26:08.000 Well, Lionel Chatwin threatened me.

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01:27:00.000 Alright, we've already got a lot of callers that want to talk to our guest, Jeffrey Charlotte.

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01:27:36.000 He's a Harper's writer.

01:27:37.000 Before we talk about the brotherhood, the family, this prime moving CIA-connected organization of so-called neocon Christians. 0.52

01:27:46.000 You want to find out what these guys are really up to.

01:27:49.000 What goes on at the Bohemian Grove where they recruit, where German chancellors and British prime ministers and members of the Dutch and British royal family go and the Bushes back into the 30s and presidents at the turn of the last century.

01:28:04.000 It goes on and on.

01:28:05.000 If you want to know the truth about Bohemian Grove, and they admit I snuck in and got this footage.

01:28:10.000 That's mainstream news.

01:28:12.000 You want to see the rituals they do.

01:28:14.000 Worshipping Moloch. 0.93

01:28:16.000 Last time I checked, that's not a god Christians are supposed to worship.

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01:28:30.000 And the film starts with Washington Times, AP, Reuters, articles about the Grove, admitting the orgies, admitting the satanic rituals, but it's all just fun. 0.91

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01:29:59.000 Now back to our guest, Jeffrey Charlotte, again with Harper's Magazine.

01:30:05.000 Incredible articles.

01:30:06.000 A lot of them are very tame, though, just analysis of different religious groups.

01:30:10.000 This one is one of the more bizarre, about the brotherhood of the family.

01:30:14.000 You say that some Christian organizations believe this is an anti-Christ organization.

01:30:19.000 Can you tell us about that, sir?

01:30:21.000 Yeah, sure.

01:30:22.000 I think they're even crazier.

01:30:23.000 There is a group online that has been tracking this guy, Doug Coe, For some years on the theory that he is the Antichrist.

01:30:33.000 And if you believe in that particular kind of literalist and unsophisticated reading of Revelation, Yeah, then I suppose he could fit your profile.

01:30:44.000 Do I think he's an Antichrist?

01:30:45.000 No.

01:30:45.000 But there are these groups that are out there.

01:30:47.000 Well, regardless, saying that the Hitler and Stalin are mal-model, I mean, that's sick enough. 0.92

01:30:54.000 That's sick enough. 0.91

01:30:55.000 That's my point exactly.

01:30:57.000 We don't need to even go any further than that.

01:31:00.000 As soon as you say, hey, let's use the Hitler model for Christ, well, you've gone off the tracks right there. 0.80

01:31:05.000 Well, look at Homeland Security.

01:31:07.000 That was called Reich Security.

01:31:08.000 Reich meaning land, land security.

01:31:12.000 And the police are wearing black uniforms?

01:31:13.000 I mean, it's really happening.

01:31:14.000 Let me read you a quote here and then I'll let you continue and we'll take calls.

01:31:17.000 Whatever the price of the Chinese revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose.

01:31:28.000 The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.

01:31:34.000 David Rockefeller's statement in 73 about Mao Zedong in the New York Times, August 10th, 73.

01:31:39.000 So, The neocons followed this Professor Strauss, Chicago University.

01:31:48.000 Someone who fled Germany.

01:31:49.000 He wrote papers, Reuters has reported, saying that dictatorship is good.

01:31:53.000 So we have this same theme popping up over and over again.

01:31:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:59.000 I think that's it, and I think that's the common thread throughout, is a certain number of people who really feel that a few elite men should be calling all the shots, and that's the government model they admire, and they don't even quite recognize sometimes that what they're advocating is dictatorship.

01:32:16.000 Now, what are the exact... I mean, you've got the quotes in the Harper's article, Oh yeah, yeah.

01:32:21.000 had to be documented on the record or harper's would like to run well yeah

01:32:23.000 yeah that that that lawyers combed over it but continuing with this exactly

01:32:29.000 now you're sitting around these people and i talk about now i'm trying to find a quote here

01:32:34.000 Jesus needs a sacred group of men running the world so he can love us properly?

01:32:41.000 Well, I can tell you, for instance, there's a document that they gave me for one of their projects called Youth Corps.

01:32:49.000 Youth Corps is sort of a it's a group that's going to go around and build these sort

01:32:54.000 of these island-wall-like homes for young men and young women

01:32:57.000 to train them. And in their official documents, Youth Corps doesn't even admit to being a Christian group, much less a

01:33:03.000 fundamentalist group.

01:33:04.000 But then they have these other documents, a document called "Youth Corps Vision," which I was given.

01:33:09.000 And it says, "The vision is to mobilize thousands of young people worldwide committed to principle, precepts, and person

01:33:14.000 of Jesus Christ." 0.91

01:33:15.000 That's fine.

01:33:17.000 And then it says to help them mature into people who talk like Jesus, act like Jesus, think like Jesus.

01:33:23.000 And that's okay, but then when it gets weird is when they start saying, to see that the finest and best invisible organization is developed and maintained at all levels of the work.

01:33:34.000 And even though the structure is hidden, See that the family atmosphere is maintained so that all people can feel a part of the family.

01:33:40.000 And that's why I say you go off the rails right there.

01:33:42.000 Invisible organizations are not what Jesus was working toward.

01:33:47.000 Invisible organizations are not what, more importantly, because we're a democracy.

01:33:51.000 We are not a Christian nation. 0.99

01:33:52.000 We're a democracy.

01:33:53.000 We're a constitutional republic.

01:33:56.000 Let me stop you for a second, Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:34:00.000 Number one, we're a constitutional republic.

01:34:02.000 Well, I'll get a lot of heat over that.

01:34:04.000 No, you're right, you're right, you're right.

01:34:05.000 Thank you for the correction.

01:34:06.000 You know, in a pure democracy, if 51% of the people say, kill this group and take their property, it happens.

01:34:13.000 In a republic, you can't.

01:34:14.000 The minority, as well as the majority, is protected. 0.95

01:34:16.000 But let me continue.

01:34:17.000 Sure. 0.99

01:34:20.000 uh... system pyramidal structure where you have a low-level idiots who pay their dues, their tithes, fund the higher-level echelon, then they have key people in positions of power. 0.97

01:34:30.000 This is how the CFR, how the Trilateral Commission, how others work, and then you see that CFR and Trilateral and Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove members all in this organization. 0.96

01:34:42.000 This is nothing but a vehicle to take over Christianity in this country, and now through Bush's faith-based initiative, that'll be the The coup de grace. 0.90

01:34:50.000 I think the pay-paced initiative is very worrisome, and it's one of those things, again, it looks good.

01:34:55.000 Who can complain about a soup kitchen feeding the hungry?

01:34:57.000 And then you have to question, what is the system that they're putting into place?

01:35:01.000 It takes control with the tens of billions of dollars a year.

01:35:04.000 Any other facets you want to hit on?

01:35:06.000 I'll stop jumping in, this is just so riveting.

01:35:08.000 You were in there for a month.

01:35:09.000 Any other facets you want to hit on before we take calls?

01:35:12.000 Sure, the one thing I would like to say that I think that your listeners are attuned to is that one of the most compelling things about this group is that they're internationalists. 0.97

01:35:19.000 And I think liberals too often dismiss fundamentalists as stupid and as provincial and local. 0.99

01:35:27.000 And these guys are none of that. 1.00

01:35:28.000 They're very internationalists.

01:35:29.000 They're very sophisticated.

01:35:30.000 They're very savvy.

01:35:31.000 They're charming.

01:35:32.000 They're not Jerry Falwell screaming at you on the TV.

01:35:36.000 These groups are You know, they look just like everyone else, as they say.

01:35:41.000 And I think if we're going to really combat fundamentalism, we need to acknowledge that and give credit where credit is due.

01:35:48.000 They can accomplish a lot, and they can do a lot, and they're smart.

01:35:50.000 And there's good things about their vision.

01:35:53.000 We should try and encourage those things.

01:35:55.000 Jeffrey, there's nothing wrong with being a fundamentalist on issues that are important.

01:36:00.000 I'm a fundamentalist on the Constitution, Bill of Rights.

01:36:03.000 Well, that's a little bit different than being a fundamentalist Christian.

01:36:06.000 Well, I am a fundamentalist Christian.

01:36:08.000 of the Bible, which has no historical basis.

01:36:12.000 So you have this whole left-wing view, this whole left-wing lens, that you're seeing them through, and look, the globalists control the left and the right.

01:36:23.000 That's why I'm trying to emphasize that this is an internationalist group.

01:36:28.000 In other words, people write to me and they say, oh, I knew those right-wing Republicans, this is what they're all about.

01:36:34.000 It's not a question of left and right.

01:36:36.000 It's a question of people who believe in transparency, who believe in democracy and open debate and discussion, versus people who think a few elites should control everything.

01:36:46.000 Alright, let me read you another quote and then we'll go to calls.

01:36:48.000 Maybe you'll understand once you've heard this.

01:36:50.000 You know who Professor Carroll Quigley was?

01:36:52.000 No, I don't.

01:36:53.000 Bill Clinton thanked him in his first State of the Union address.

01:36:57.000 He was the head of political science at Georgetown University.

01:37:01.000 Okay?

01:37:02.000 Okay.

01:37:03.000 And this is what he said in his book, Tragedy and Hope.

01:37:05.000 There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical right believes the Communist Act.

01:37:13.000 In fact, this network, which we may call the Roundtable Groups, see it's Roundtable Interlocking Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists or any other group, and frequently does so.

01:37:25.000 I know of their operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early sixties to examine its papers and secret records.

01:37:33.000 I have no aversion to it or most of its aims and have for much of my life been close to it and many of its instruments.

01:37:39.000 I have objected both in the past and recently to a few of its policies, but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known, Professor Carol Quigley in his book, Tragedy and Hope.

01:37:53.000 I couldn't agree with that more.

01:37:54.000 I mean, that's exactly the main issue, that they wish to remain unknown.

01:37:58.000 You can advocate whatever you want, as long as you're not doing it secretly, and you're not hiding, and you're not trying to manipulating power, to manipulate power secretly.

01:38:05.000 Well, they called for dictatorship, and then Ashcroft's trying to pass Patriot Act 2.

01:38:10.000 Yeah, I think Ashcroft has made pretty clear where his sympathies lie.

01:38:14.000 Well, now you say he's connected to the group.

01:38:17.000 What about that?

01:38:18.000 Yeah, in 1981, a correspondence began between he and Doug Coe, in which they agreed to get together and pray together and also talk about how they could bring Jesus, remember this is their Jesus, their idea of Jesus, into politics.

01:38:34.000 And they don't really have, I think, a great sense of the separation of church and state.

01:38:39.000 And I think we're seeing the effects of that right now.

01:38:45.000 He also helped, Ashcroft helped organize within this group a series of somewhat secret, and again that's their word, the organizer said, this is a secret meeting for students.

01:38:54.000 The hand-picked students from good colleges around the country are brought to a hotel.

01:38:58.000 No press, no press is alerted about this.

01:39:00.000 And someone like Ashcroft or Senator Pete Dominici of New Mexico will just give them a weekend seminar on how they can Bring Jesus into politics and how you can do it without setting off alarms.

01:39:15.000 And we bring Jesus as we secretly take over all the religious groups. 0.95

01:39:18.000 We bring Jesus in through a Hitler model. 0.99

01:39:21.000 Yeah, instead of saying, hey, you bring Jesus in by saying, I'm a Christian, and these are my views, and you can support them or not support them if you want.

01:39:29.000 We don't talk about abortion.

01:39:30.000 We don't talk about the Muslims.

01:39:32.000 Ashcroft doesn't talk about abortion and the Muslims. 0.83

01:39:36.000 Ashcroft is a morally dictatorial character.

01:39:40.000 That's the front for all of this, but I'm showing people the core.

01:39:43.000 The core is much more sophisticated than Ashcroft.

01:39:47.000 Absolutely.

01:39:48.000 One more comment on this.

01:39:50.000 Isn't it a conflict of interest to have seven to eight congressmen who live in D.C.

01:39:54.000 in a house paid for by this non-profit shadowy group, as you write, connected to the CIA?

01:40:00.000 Yeah, the building is actually registered with IRS as a church, too, which when I think AP, Associated Press, followed up and checked it out, and these guys are saying, oh, I didn't know that, I didn't know that, and I didn't even know it was any Christian.

01:40:12.000 And a Maine reporter followed up with John Elias Baldacci, then a congressman, now governor of Maine, a conservative Democrat, and he claimed there was no other Christian element to it.

01:40:23.000 Now, I was there.

01:40:24.000 Every meal was preceded by a prayer, and it's a fairly unconventional prayer.

01:40:28.000 Oh, what is the prayer?

01:40:29.000 It's always a free-form prayer, and it's always just a, you know, there's a lot you wouldn't disagree with it, you know, thank you Jesus, thank you for this food, this is all good, we agree with this, and then Emphasizing our total allegiance to this.

01:40:44.000 And I would even have people, I would hear people say all the time, they say, you know, the kingdom of Christ is not a democracy.

01:40:49.000 And there can only be one king.

01:40:50.000 And that's what we, that's what we have to pray to be broken and have our spirit humiliated.

01:40:55.000 Because democracy can be a pride.

01:40:58.000 They're saying that they are the Knights Templars, basically, defending the grail.

01:41:04.000 They believe that they're the new chosen.

01:41:06.000 And I heard that said a lot of the time.

01:41:09.000 They're actually the chosen or the elect, however you want to put that.

01:41:13.000 And Jesus is a spirit guide in abortion.

01:41:16.000 We don't talk about that.

01:41:17.000 Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.

01:41:19.000 Dan, you're on the air.

01:41:19.000 Then Bob in New York and others.

01:41:20.000 Go ahead, Dan.

01:41:22.000 Hello, Jeff.

01:41:22.000 Hello, Doug.

01:41:23.000 Hi, Dan.

01:41:25.000 I think they're alluding to Hitler, whether they even admit it to themselves.

01:41:29.000 You were just hitting on it right now.

01:41:31.000 And it's the same mistake that all religion without the real Christ and all the religion without real God is.

01:41:37.000 It's this idea of a superior race.

01:41:40.000 The Nazis were the superior race. 0.97

01:41:42.000 It's a takeover system for religious organizations.

01:41:44.000 It's a total front.

01:41:45.000 It fits all the parameters of a cult.

01:41:47.000 You got congressmen living in this house paid for by the group?

01:41:51.000 Give me a break! 1.00

01:41:53.000 Well, Dan, I would make one important distinction.

01:41:57.000 This is what separates them from a lot of those groups.

01:42:00.000 They don't believe in a superior race.

01:42:02.000 Not that I've been able to detect, and I've looked.

01:42:05.000 Look, there's people of all races involved, and that's important to understand.

01:42:08.000 What they believe in is that strength and that power.

01:42:11.000 Now, as for the true Christ or the not-true Christ, it's not for me to judge what's in their hearts.

01:42:16.000 Well, I don't want to have a religious debate.

01:42:17.000 I'm talking about the Sinister Organization, and I'll call a duck a duck. 0.97

01:42:21.000 You know, when it's yellow and quacks and wobbles and swims and flies. 0.76

01:42:24.000 Now, I want to go back to the point that two of these guys threatened you and said, you're a traitor, you will pay.

01:42:32.000 So I would take that very seriously.

01:42:33.000 Anything else, Dan?

01:42:35.000 Yeah, well, I was just, what I was going to say was, is that it's confusing the human, the human accomplishments and the conservative right type person.

01:42:45.000 They are so impressed with authority and success And they're trained never to doubt anything. 0.95

01:42:51.000 This is to suck good Christians in to be their servants. 1.00

01:42:54.000 I think you got it right there, Dan. 0.99

01:42:55.000 This kind of fetish for authority and success and confusing that with what being a good Christian is.

01:43:01.000 Which is the total opposite message, actually.

01:43:03.000 Well, I'll give you my analysis. 0.96

01:43:05.000 This thing stinks to high heaven.

01:43:07.000 You write about the CIA connections in your article, correct, Jeff?

01:43:11.000 I don't mention that too much.

01:43:14.000 I think that they've always had guys in every branch of government.

01:43:19.000 That's not something I've explored too thoroughly, but I don't think that... I mean, they've got prayer groups in the Department of Defense and prayer groups throughout government.

01:43:27.000 And, you know, the government's bigger than the CIA, and we should be worried about what's going on throughout it.

01:43:34.000 Absolutely.

01:43:34.000 Thanks for the call, Dan.

01:43:36.000 Appreciate the call.

01:43:37.000 Bob in New York.

01:43:38.000 You're on the air with our guest.

01:43:39.000 Go ahead, Bob.

01:43:40.000 How you doing today, Alex?

01:43:41.000 Fine.

01:43:42.000 How's Jeff today?

01:43:42.000 Hi, Bob.

01:43:44.000 Hi.

01:43:44.000 Jeff, Alex brought up a point, and I'm going to give you some homework if that's okay with you.

01:43:49.000 Sure, I'd love that.

01:43:50.000 There was a gentleman by the name of Anthony Sutton that wrote a book called America's Secret Establishment, A Look into Skull and Bones.

01:43:58.000 Where this all goes back to is a philosopher in the 19th century named Hegel.

01:44:04.000 And what's amazing is if you go way back, which Anthony has done, is he exposes the fact that not only is skull and bones some satanic ritual, you know, and they do weird things inside a tomb, but it's infiltrated all of U.S.

01:44:20.000 education systems since the early 1800s.

01:44:23.000 And the whole point of it That this education system is not to educate, is to make you subservient.

01:44:33.000 He also goes into their biggest ploy is eugenics. 0.86

01:44:39.000 The head of the Nazi eugenics program was meeting in 1932 with Harriman.

01:44:46.000 You know, this is genocide.

01:44:49.000 They need to depopulate.

01:44:51.000 And so they're setting up The little Christian soldiers who think they're Christian, bringing in the world dictatorship. 0.99

01:44:58.000 Stay there, Bob.

01:44:58.000 Stay there, Jeff.

01:44:59.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

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01:48:06.000 Alright folks...

01:48:09.000 Shhh!

01:48:10.000 I really do appreciate our guests with all this great information and amazing research he's done.

01:48:15.000 Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:48:16.000 Combined with the research I've done and the listeners have done, it's stunningly scary what the globalists are setting up here and how I hear these so-called Christian leaders on the radio saying, Patriot Act 1 and 2 is good.

01:48:30.000 Basically, you're not a Christian if you don't worship George Bush.

01:48:33.000 They will attack you if you mention Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove.

01:48:37.000 They will attack you if you mention that Bush goes to Muslim prayer breakfasts and worships Allah.

01:48:42.000 This is the new system, folks.

01:48:44.000 It's just putting the name of Christ on something and then trying to sell an agenda attached to that engine.

01:48:52.000 And we're talking to Harper's writer, Jeffrey Charlotte, an award-winning author.

01:48:57.000 His website is killingthebuddha.com.

01:49:00.000 He's got a new book coming out.

01:49:01.000 Let's go back to Bob in New York.

01:49:04.000 Anything else real quick, Bob, you want to say to Jeffrey?

01:49:06.000 Well, Jeffrey, you've done some great work.

01:49:09.000 You opened up something that we weren't even aware of.

01:49:12.000 Well, I was aware of it under different names.

01:49:13.000 As I said, they had lots of names.

01:49:15.000 You know, Opus Dei, I don't know if you've ever looked into that.

01:49:20.000 I'm looking into now the possible connections between Opus Dei.

01:49:24.000 In the late 60s, this group had a lot of trouble getting into Spain.

01:49:29.000 They had leaders throughout the rest of the European government, but Spain, which was a Catholic government, this group is very Protestant.

01:49:39.000 They ended up making common cause with a group of government officials who were in Opus Dei, and through that they were able to get access to Franco, the dictator of Spain.

01:49:48.000 And these government officials, these Opus Dei guys, would vouch for this group and say they're alright, and then from there on they're doing business.

01:49:55.000 And they say in your article that, oh, we like Franco.

01:49:59.000 Yeah, they did admire Franco, another dictator who Killed a lot of his own citizens, ruled Spain for many years with U.S.

01:50:09.000 support, and again, they thought, this is a guy who, maybe he has some problems with his policies, but we like the way he approaches governance because it's on the model of crisis, they understand it, which is hierarchical.

01:50:22.000 Which is a dictatorship.

01:50:23.000 Thanks for the call, Bob.

01:50:25.000 Billy in Texas, you're on the air with our guest.

01:50:28.000 Go ahead, Billy.

01:50:29.000 Hello, Alex.

01:50:30.000 Nice talking to you again.

01:50:31.000 Nice talking to you.

01:50:33.000 Uh, I called you like, I think it was two weeks ago, and I was wanting to ask you about if you've seen 44 Minutes or, um, that, and you let me plug my website on here.

01:50:42.000 Okay, sir, what's on your mind?

01:50:44.000 Okay, well, if real quick, if I could just explain my story, what I have to explain dwarfs what you guys have been talking about, but basically I'm going to try to make this real short. 0.81

01:50:54.000 The state of Michigan has just came and raped and pillaged my whole family.

01:50:59.000 Well, sir, we see these horror stories every day. 0.94

01:51:02.000 I may have to hold you over to the next hour, and you tell me you're calling in from Texas.

01:51:06.000 Yeah, I'm calling from Texas.

01:51:08.000 It's a child support issue.

01:51:10.000 Okay, sir, I'm going to have to put you on hold.

01:51:12.000 Okay.

01:51:12.000 Because when I have a guest on, it's about that issue.

01:51:15.000 You know what?

01:51:15.000 I'm not going to take any more calls.

01:51:17.000 I just want to go ahead and let our guest finish up.

01:51:19.000 Sir, are there any other points you'd like to make?

01:51:21.000 Any other things you'd like to discuss about this situation you've exposed?

01:51:26.000 I think we've covered it pretty well.

01:51:28.000 I think one thing it's worth looking at is in 1945, the founder of the group, Abraham Brady, was using the phrase, the New World Order, and he was working with the administrators of the Marshall Plan, with which the U.S.

01:51:43.000 helped to rebuild Europe and do a lot of good work, but he was also saying, let's use that to promote this Christian agenda and to say, look, you want to do business with us, you have to do it on these terms, you have to worship not only Christ but our idea of Christ and we're

01:51:59.000 gonna share on that.

01:52:00.000 And I think it's important to understand that these groups are not, you know, it's not a bunch of bad guys in the back

01:52:07.000 room cackling and swatting.

01:52:09.000 They, a lot of them do pursue this with good hearts and with good integrity, but the issue becomes are you going to

01:52:15.000 do it out in the open, out in the public?

01:52:17.000 Well, we can all debate, we can say is this a good idea or a bad idea.

01:52:19.000 And they call it, and the founder called it a New World Order, and in just a few years it had presidential support.

01:52:25.000 Exactly.

01:52:27.000 Did you know that Hitler called for a New World Order, sir?

01:52:30.000 I didn't, but it's not surprising.

01:52:33.000 Well, you know, George W. Bush and his daddy have called for a New World Order.

01:52:36.000 That's a popular phrase.

01:52:39.000 It means world dictatorship.

01:52:43.000 Appreciate you joining us, Jeffrey Charlotte.

01:52:46.000 Great job.

01:52:47.000 Take care.

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01:53:22.000 Government cover-ups.

01:53:24.000 You want answers?

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01:53:27.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:31.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:53:48.000 Well, in the first hour, we talked about the story of Dr. Charles T. Sell, an Army physician.

01:53:54.000 Dentist hired to look at medical records in Waco.

01:53:57.000 He was there on the scene, said the government was involved in the cover-up, so they charged him with Medicaid-Medicare fraud in his private practice.

01:54:04.000 He said that the court was corrupt and a fraud, and so they grabbed him secretly, and been drugging him.

01:54:12.000 Now it's public, and they want to continue forced drugging.

01:54:15.000 They say the Supreme Court rules they can't force drugging for six years.

01:54:19.000 They will just continue to hold him in solitary confinement until the Prison doctors say he's sane because they say it's insane to say the government is corrupt.

01:54:28.000 They actually say this.

01:54:29.000 They admit they've beaten and tortured him.

01:54:31.000 They will not release the videotapes of this though.

01:54:34.000 They say it's all part of discipline.

01:54:35.000 In the last hour we talked about the neocons taking over real Christian organizations and recruiting at Bohemian Grove and much more with the Harper's Magazine reporter.

01:54:45.000 And in this hour I am really happy to announce that we've got Kim Bryant on the mother of a valiant family that are trying to defend their children from the re-education dumbing down centers that are the public schools. 0.99

01:54:59.000 It was first reported by the Metro West Daily News.

01:55:01.000 World Net Daily has written an article about this.

01:55:04.000 We have it on Infowars.com.

01:55:06.000 Coming up in about five minutes, we're going to have our guest on, who I know is already online, but I wanted to read some of this article.

01:55:13.000 Homeschooling standoff in Waltham.

01:55:16.000 A legal battle over two homeschooled children exploded into a seven-hour standoff yesterday when they refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department of Social Services.

01:55:25.000 George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and the daughter, Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George Bryant, as police and child kidnapping services workers attempted to collect the children at 7.45 a.m.

01:55:40.000 The DSS demanded the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

01:55:45.000 After a court order was issued by the Framingham Juvenile Court around 1 p.m., the children were driven by their parents to the Waltham Hotel.

01:55:54.000 Again, they refused to take the test.

01:55:56.000 The court order said that the children must be here.

01:55:59.000 It said nothing about taking the test, said George Bryant, the father.

01:56:02.000 The second refusal came after an emotional filled morning for the family when DSS workers sternly demanded the Bryants comply with their orders.

01:56:09.000 We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit.

01:56:13.000 DSS worker Susan Estakovich told the Bryants in their Gale Street home, quote, they are minors and they will do what we tell them to do. 0.98

01:56:22.000 We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit.

01:56:26.000 Four police officers were also at the scene and attempted to coax the Bryants to listen to the DSS worker.

01:56:31.000 Whatever happened to the Fifth Amendment, folks?

01:56:34.000 We are simply here to prevent a breach of the peace.

01:56:36.000 Oh yeah, you're the one causing the breach of the peace, said Waltham Youth Officer Detective James Allude.

01:56:43.000 We will not physically remove the children.

01:56:46.000 And then it goes on to the CPS saying they may take the children for good because the children refused to take the test.

01:56:52.000 Now, the question here, and the big... 0.85

01:56:56.000 Precedent we're looking at here is that if they can make you follow their curriculum and have CPS in your home and have them take their stupid test to see how they've dumbed your kids down to make sure they've carried out the Defense Department directive you've had the former head of policy Department of Education on, Charlotte Isserby. 0.94

01:57:14.000 They want to make sure they've dumbed your kids down. 0.93

01:57:17.000 And they're trying to outlaw homeschooling, harassing parents nationwide as the borders are wide open, and as their kids are learning how to use drugs and have sex and worship Nike tennis shoes in these public schools and eat irradiated food they feed them.

01:57:31.000 Now in these systems, the kids are thumb scanning to get school lunches, training them for the biometric system.

01:57:37.000 It's horrible!

01:57:39.000 And it's your children, not the state's, and this is not freedom.

01:57:42.000 We'll come back and go to the mother. 0.62

01:57:46.000 Mrs. Bryant, who has incredible courage.

01:57:50.000 The father said that they can try to bully a lot of parents.

01:57:54.000 He said there have been threats all along.

01:57:58.000 And he says most families fall to that bullying by the state legal system.

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02:01:26.000 Alright, we had some callers earlier in the last hour with our other guests wanting to bring up CPS and how the government's breaking up families.

02:01:34.000 Some of those folks got disconnected on accident.

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02:01:42.000 air one eight hundred five nine nine two three one there is a hallmark of

02:01:47.000 dictatorship and police state

02:01:51.000 it was under uh... the egyptians who wanted to kill the first born of the

02:01:56.000 of the jews or whether it was in a franco spain took

02:02:01.000 people's children for political reasons are in hitler's germany

02:02:04.000 the same eugenics process of dumbing our kids down is taking place here 0.95

02:02:09.000 We have the official Department of Education documents.

02:02:12.000 They're in Charlotte Isserby's phone book-sized book, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America.

02:02:18.000 She's, of course, the former head of policy, number two position, Department of Education in the first Reagan administration.

02:02:23.000 So, we know they want to hurt our children. 1.00

02:02:26.000 The useful idiot teachers, who aren't generally bad, but are just ignorant and follow orders, don't see the larger plan. 1.00

02:02:32.000 The more education funding, the dumber our kids get. 1.00

02:02:34.000 The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs on the streets. 0.98

02:02:37.000 More people in prison.

02:02:38.000 The bigger the war on terror gets, the more terror.

02:02:41.000 They are creating the crises to offer the solution.

02:02:44.000 Now, from California to Illinois to Texas, they're now announcing you can't homeschool.

02:02:48.000 You've got to have a teaching certificate.

02:02:49.000 You've got to have CPS in your house five times a year.

02:02:52.000 You've got to take our tests.

02:02:53.000 You've got to follow our curriculum.

02:02:56.000 They're saying your kids don't belong to you.

02:02:58.000 And with the Bryant family up in Massachusetts going back six years ago, George Bryant, uh... was arrested six years ago after not attending a meeting that the city contends was a summons.

02:03:09.000 Now they don't even send you a summons, they just call and say you gotta show up.

02:03:12.000 We'll arrest you if you don't.

02:03:13.000 It's not a legal document, it's not constitutional.

02:03:16.000 The meeting was called by the Waltham School District for his failure to send his children to school when they're homeschooling.

02:03:22.000 And uh... they now have basically grabbed the kids and have taken custody.

02:03:26.000 They've gotten the kids back, but they're saying they control them even in the house.

02:03:29.000 They don't take the test.

02:03:32.000 They're going to be taken out of the home.

02:03:34.000 Joining me is Kim Bryant.

02:03:36.000 And Kim, I'm sorry you've gone through this and I want to commend you and your husband's courage and honor trying to shield your children from the clutches of these evil creatures.

02:03:47.000 Thank you.

02:03:48.000 It's been a long six and a half years.

02:03:51.000 Simply trying to raise your children in this so-called free country.

02:03:55.000 Tell us about yourself, your husband, why you decided to homeschool, what it's been like with these vicious hyenas attacking you.

02:04:03.000 Well, let's see, we decided to keep our kids out of school.

02:04:09.000 Mostly because we felt that we could provide them with a better education.

02:04:13.000 When I was looking at preschools for my son, I was looking for a place where he would be able to express himself.

02:04:20.000 I was looking for a kind of school where no one would tell him to sit down and be quiet.

02:04:26.000 And then a friend of mine said to me, well, I know the school you're looking for is called homeschool, and she handed me a bunch of literature on home education, and my kids never went to school.

02:04:38.000 Um, and I don't usually say that I homeschool, because I kind of think that the word homeschool is sort of an oxymoron.

02:04:46.000 It's my home, it's not a school.

02:04:49.000 Yeah, because if you use the word school, they can legally now try to take you under regulations.

02:04:53.000 Now, something they're very angry about, the Chicago Tribune's done it, LA Times has done it, They're very upset the last five International Spelling Bee Champions were homeschoolers.

02:05:03.000 They're now taking first, second, and third place generally.

02:05:06.000 They're also winning all the Geography Bees.

02:05:09.000 I've had cousins that were homeschooled, got full scholarships, Fortune 500, begs for them.

02:05:15.000 You know, they start making $60, $70, $80 grand a year right out of college, $100 grand a year.

02:05:20.000 They hate it that they can't ruin your brains, and so I want to make that clear.

02:05:25.000 It's your children, and of course you do a better job.

02:05:28.000 Go ahead.

02:05:29.000 Well, I was just going to say that both of my children competed in Destination Imagination, which is a problem-solving creativity challenge, and their team is made up, both teams were made up entirely of children who don't attend school.

02:05:44.000 And my son's team is state champion in his challenge, and my daughter's team came in second.

02:05:49.000 Well, let's not even call it school.

02:05:50.000 Your children do not attend re-education camp.

02:05:53.000 They definitely don't.

02:05:55.000 And that's what it is, by the way.

02:05:57.000 Yeah.

02:06:00.000 So, going over this, this started six years ago.

02:06:02.000 What happened?

02:06:02.000 What developed?

02:06:04.000 Um, we got a letter from the truant officer.

02:06:07.000 Uh, he sent us a letter and said, well, certainly you can homeschool, but you have to follow certain procedures.

02:06:15.000 You have to send us an education plan.

02:06:17.000 And we sent him a letter back saying, oh, we do?

02:06:20.000 Could you please give us a copy of the law that requires us to do that?

02:06:24.000 Um, he didn't provide that law.

02:06:26.000 Instead, he went and filed criminal charges for failure to send children to school.

02:06:30.000 Now that's false arrest imprisonment right there.

02:06:33.000 So, we went to court.

02:06:36.000 We told them that we wanted a jury trial.

02:06:39.000 And the penalty, I might add, for this statute is a $20 fine.

02:06:45.000 They changed it from a criminal complaint to a civil complaint and tried to tell us that we couldn't have a jury.

02:06:52.000 And we kept asking for the copies of the law.

02:06:57.000 And so they decided that they weren't going to get anywhere the day the trial was supposed to start.

02:07:04.000 They filed a notice for dismissal and we asked them if we had been prejudiced and it was dismissed with prejudice so they couldn't bring it back and they went and filed with the Department of Social Services allegations of educational neglect and DSS came to the house and decided that they did not want to pursue it so the city attorney Files of care and protection against us, which is very unusual.

02:07:34.000 It's not usually done by the truant officer.

02:07:36.000 It's usually done by Child Protective Services.

02:07:38.000 Well, now they're doing it across the board because they're desperate.

02:07:40.000 The exodus has gone from 100,000 kids 10 years ago to a million, two million, three million.

02:07:45.000 Some estimates are now at four million.

02:07:47.000 A lot of folks are secretive about this.

02:07:49.000 They're panicking because a brain trust is leaving them.

02:07:53.000 That's great.

02:07:55.000 The more the better.

02:07:56.000 I hope it just collapses under its own weight.

02:08:00.000 Absolutely, it's criminal.

02:08:02.000 Now, when they arrested your husband, what was the terror like to have these people there grabbing your husband?

02:08:07.000 And what was it like for the children?

02:08:09.000 I mean, this is the purest form of terrorism.

02:08:12.000 Well, I have to tell you, I wasn't home at the time that it happened.

02:08:16.000 And my husband was in the middle of a Cub Scout meeting with my son at the time.

02:08:23.000 And I got a call basically when he was in jail.

02:08:28.000 Telling me to come and bail him out.

02:08:30.000 And I was just petrified because I didn't know where the kids were.

02:08:34.000 They were at a friend's, at a neighbor's house.

02:08:36.000 And then I was petrified that if he got arrested, then I'd get arrested too.

02:08:42.000 Because I couldn't see that they would charge just him.

02:08:44.000 You know, but like I said, we went to court and got the whole thing taken care of.

02:08:53.000 You should have sued him because that was false imprisonment, that was a terrorist attack.

02:08:58.000 I mean, imagine if criminals come to your house and grab your husband and take him away for no reason with no law.

02:09:04.000 Then that would be kidnapping.

02:09:06.000 But when the government does it, it's just, oh well, they're the boss.

02:09:08.000 Well, you know, I totally agree with you because I checked the summons that summoned us to court and that summons was never served.

02:09:16.000 The court record shows it was never served, which means they falsely issued a default warrant on my husband and myself.

02:09:22.000 All the time when they arrest patriots and Christians, there's not even paperwork.

02:09:26.000 And then you go to them and go, I was in jail for a month, where's the paperwork? 0.99

02:09:29.000 Shut up or we'll arrest you again! 1.00

02:09:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:09:32.000 Yeah.

02:09:33.000 I mean, it was amazing on Thursday when we were here because my husband and we had three members of our council here who are non-attorneys.

02:09:41.000 Uh, we were standing at the door and my husband said to the police officers, you don't have a warrant and you don't have a precept to take those children, you better stay out of our, you know, stay out.

02:09:52.000 And the police didn't come, didn't come in the premises at all.

02:09:56.000 Now imagine if you'd have been a blue collar family, uneducated, ignorant on your rights, and imagine, this is what they do, And now you put your toddler in Head Start. 0.80

02:10:07.000 Oh, it's the good thing to do.

02:10:09.000 You get three CPS visits a year, and on average about 31% of children are being taken from families that are in Head Start.

02:10:16.000 It is a way to get them into the home.

02:10:19.000 The feds pay upwards of $10 billion a year to fund all this breakup of the family, but they are taking 100 kids a month in Austin, Texas.

02:10:29.000 And now they've fed on all the blue-collar people, now they're moving on to the middle class.

02:10:35.000 Well, they get federal funds.

02:10:36.000 The CPS gets federal funds for children who are on public assistance.

02:10:41.000 So yeah, they're ready to help you because it makes it really easy for them to take your kids and get lots of money for it.

02:10:46.000 And they put them on Ritalin and Prozac and hurt them and give them psychological disorders on a list.

02:10:55.000 In Florida, they have tens of thousands of toddlers, when they cry for mommy, that's called mental illness and they're putting them on antipsychotics.

02:11:02.000 Can you believe that?

02:11:03.000 Wow.

02:11:04.000 Yeah, little babies beating on doors, crying, and when they cry, that's mental illness and they drug them. 0.99

02:11:10.000 This is the sickest evil we can imagine.

02:11:15.000 I know a woman who, it's kind of ironic, I know a woman who was charged with educational

02:11:22.000 neglect.

02:11:23.000 She was trying to get special ed services for her child in school and then they didn't 0.99

02:11:28.000 want to pay for it.

02:11:30.000 So she ended up taking her kid out of school and then they filed educational neglect charges 1.00

02:11:35.000 on her.

02:11:36.000 And they ended up taking her kids away from her and then they turned around and said,

02:11:40.000 "Well you have munchies because you're trying to test your kids too much." 0.99

02:11:45.000 And she was using the test results to get special ed services. 0.96

02:11:48.000 Yeah, see, you get their services, they do this to you, but notice now, we're all mentally ill now when we claim our rights or try to do something, see?

02:11:56.000 It's the Soviet model. 0.86

02:11:58.000 Well, someone said to me once the DSM-IV, that manual that has all the psychological problems, doesn't have a code for normal.

02:12:09.000 Everybody has to be sick.

02:12:11.000 Well, we talked about in the first hour of the show, Dr. Charles T. Sell.

02:12:15.000 Army doctor, dentist, had a private practice as well, went to Waco, said the government was involved.

02:12:20.000 They grabbed him.

02:12:21.000 Six years later, solitary confinement, forcibly drugging him.

02:12:24.000 Now he's gone off the drugs and is on appeal.

02:12:27.000 The Senate, for what they charge him, would be two years, but he's been in solitary for five and a half to six.

02:12:32.000 And they say, even if the Supreme Court says we can't forcibly drug him, we may go ahead and hold him for the rest of his life.

02:12:40.000 Well, with my kids, I kind of wonder what kind of results do the kids have to have before you decide they're not educationally neglected, you know?

02:12:49.000 Even if my kids had agreed to take that standardized test, which they wouldn't agree to do, what are you going to do with the results?

02:12:57.000 And again, in Massachusetts, it's a violation of Article 12 of our Declaration of Rights.

02:13:06.000 Not being compelled to accuse or furnish evidence against yourself.

02:13:10.000 Yeah, it's all color or law.

02:13:10.000 Stay right there, all color or law.

02:13:12.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

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02:17:14.000 Monday through Friday from 11 to 2, Central Standard Time, I do this show.

02:17:25.000 And back from 9 to midnight, Central Standard Time as well, we're talking to Kim Bryant.

02:17:29.000 I'm ranting and raving on this subject because it's just such a key indicator of tyranny.

02:17:35.000 Doesn't matter who's in office, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, it just gets bigger and worse.

02:17:42.000 And they're panicking now because people are fleeing their brainwashing machine.

02:17:47.000 Of MTV and the public school and the rest of it.

02:17:50.000 I want to come back in the next segment and take calls for our guests for similar horror stories or how you successfully fought them off in your area, the child grabbing services.

02:17:59.000 The toll free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.

02:18:03.000 I appreciate Tim Bryant taking time out to join us.

02:18:07.000 What was it like in this latest event where they show up with the police So you've got to go take this skills assessment test when your kids are winning, you know, on the big championship teams and stuff with all the other homeschoolers as the other public school kids drool in the corner saying, I love the new world order.

02:18:25.000 Describe what happened and now how the government's behaved since this has gotten so much attention.

02:18:31.000 Well, I haven't heard from the Department of Social Services since it got all this public attention, although I have seen news reports that spoke to people for the governor or for the commissioner of the Department of Social Services.

02:18:44.000 I saw an interesting quote the other day that said, Support the Waltham Public Schools in ensuring that the children receive an education.

02:18:54.000 And I said, wait, wait, wait.

02:18:56.000 I thought Child Protective Services was here to support the family.

02:19:00.000 And now the truth comes out.

02:19:01.000 You guys are really here just to support states.

02:19:04.000 Well, to make sure all the kids are in there getting their vaccinations, and thumb scanning to get their food, training them for the biometrics, and getting searched by the police, and having the dog dogs all over them.

02:19:13.000 Yeah, making sure they know that they're watched every second of the day.

02:19:17.000 And that they obey arbitrary authority.

02:19:20.000 Whatever we tell you to do, you do it.

02:19:22.000 Like that CPS worker said.

02:19:24.000 Yeah, she said that in the article.

02:19:25.000 She said, tell us about that quote where we're in control, you're under us, you do what we say.

02:19:30.000 She said it for real.

02:19:31.000 I couldn't believe it.

02:19:32.000 She just said, these are minors, they will do what we tell them to do. 0.72

02:19:38.000 Here's her quote.

02:19:39.000 We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit.

02:19:43.000 They are minors and they do what we tell them to do.

02:19:48.000 And I couldn't believe that she said it.

02:19:50.000 Well, now they're threatening to take your children permanently if they don't take this test. 0.62

02:19:54.000 They have made that threat.

02:19:57.000 I mean, this is our second care and protection.

02:20:01.000 My children have actually been in, quote, the legal custody since December of 2001.

02:20:06.000 And they are still at home.

02:20:09.000 So how did that happen?

02:20:11.000 I hold up that Constitution every chance I get.

02:20:14.000 You know, she said all this stuff about the children will do what we do, and I said to her, excuse me, do children have rights?

02:20:22.000 Do they have rights under this Constitution?

02:20:24.000 Well, number one, I mean, it's all a fraud.

02:20:26.000 They're just claiming all these new powers.

02:20:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:30.000 What about a Fifth Amendment? 0.91

02:20:31.000 I mean, can they make your children work as slave laborers? 1.00

02:20:33.000 Can they make them take these tests?

02:20:35.000 No.

02:20:36.000 How do you verify if they took it or not?

02:20:40.000 You know, if the children answered five questions, did they take the test?

02:20:46.000 Do they have to answer 30 questions?

02:20:49.000 There's no objective standard and there's no law.

02:20:51.000 I don't see how it could be in accordance with the Constitution to require someone to take a test.

02:20:56.000 How did they get custody of your children in 2000?

02:20:59.000 Well, there was... I have to tell you, we have counsel.

02:21:04.000 The Massachusetts Constitution provides for C-O-U-N-C-I-L, and we maintain that that does not require one to have a license by the Bar of Massachusetts. 0.99

02:21:13.000 And the judge removed our counsel every court hearing, and my husband and I left with him, and we've appealed that up to the appellate court saying, So they wouldn't allow you to have your own counsel and said that was an action that was bad and so they took custody.

02:21:29.000 Yeah, well we weren't at the trial so you know it's kind of hard to defend yourself when you're not there but these judges in Massachusetts have absolute judicial immunity they can make up whatever they want on the bench and there isn't much you can do.

02:21:44.000 Well it's incredible so now where does it stand?

02:21:49.000 Well, now I think the ball is probably still in DSS's court.

02:21:52.000 We'll see whether they go back to court and, uh, and when we were in court on Thursday, the DSS attorney said, Your Honor, you have to issue this precept ordering the children, ordering the Bryants to bring the children to the testing or else give them back custody because there's nothing we can do. 0.98

02:22:10.000 So I hope she goes back into court and says that.

02:22:13.000 The children won't take the test.

02:22:15.000 Give them custody.

02:22:16.000 Let us out.

02:22:19.000 Well, I mean, they're your children.

02:22:20.000 They're winning awards.

02:22:22.000 You're educating them.

02:22:23.000 You're intelligent people.

02:22:24.000 I mean, the state is saying here, hey, it doesn't matter if you go to our public schools.

02:22:28.000 We're still over you.

02:22:30.000 We're going to send CPS to your house.

02:22:32.000 Your kids are going to take tests.

02:22:33.000 We're going to approve their curriculum.

02:22:35.000 End of the story!

02:22:37.000 This is the public schools saying, we own your kids.

02:22:40.000 And now they're trying to take over the private schools.

02:22:42.000 Yep, and I just stand there and say, where's the law?

02:22:45.000 And what do they say to that?

02:22:46.000 Well, we'll get your answer when we get back.

02:22:48.000 The hundreds of times over six years, as they've arrested your husband, taken custody of your children, come to your house, demanded they go to this hotel to take tests, the police trying to intimidate them, all of this, and you just say, what's the law?

02:23:00.000 What's the law?

02:23:02.000 What do they say?

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02:23:50.000 All the key indicators of a dictatorship of an ultra-police state being set up here in America.

02:23:55.000 Grabbing citizens that expose government corruption, well-known doctors in the community, force-drugging them, saying they may stay in prison for life, never with a trial for anything.

02:24:04.000 uh... grabbing people's children saying the state owns your children saying they

02:24:08.000 have custody of the children you know all of this being set up here in america and john

02:24:12.000 in michigan and others your calls are coming up

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02:24:19.000 two five nine nine two three one i gotta plug something and then

02:24:24.000 we're gonna go back to our guest and i get an answer from kim bryant about the

02:24:27.000 when she says show me the law There is no law.

02:24:30.000 They don't care.

02:24:30.000 Same thing in California.

02:24:32.000 Same thing in Illinois.

02:24:33.000 We've had the different homeschool legal defense associations on.

02:24:35.000 They say there is no law.

02:24:37.000 It's all color of law.

02:24:39.000 And they get people to waive their rights generally, and it's how they do it.

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02:26:03.000 Going back to our guest, and we really appreciate her joining us, after all they've been through,

02:26:13.000 the six plus year battle, Kim Bryant and her husband George Bryant, now they're saying,

02:26:20.000 "Okay, you take the test. We're going to come take the kids. 1.00

02:26:23.000 Let's see them try it with all this attention." 0.98

02:26:25.000 This happens every day around the country.

02:26:28.000 Even the middle class, educated, intelligent people, imagine what it's like for the working class, the blue-collar folks that weren't ever taught their rights and were in these public schools.

02:26:37.000 When you ask them for the law showing that your kids have got to have their curriculum approved by the government, that they've got to be tested by the government, when you ask for the law, what do they say?

02:26:47.000 They won't show it to us.

02:26:49.000 What do they say?

02:26:50.000 They say, well, you know what it is.

02:26:51.000 We're not your attorney.

02:26:54.000 You go look it up.

02:26:56.000 So now they violate the Fifth Amendment in not telling you what you're charged of.

02:27:00.000 Exactly.

02:27:01.000 And they don't list on the sheets what the charges are.

02:27:05.000 Well, the charge will say something, well if you're charged criminally, it says failure to send.

02:27:10.000 That's the entire thing.

02:27:13.000 And then you go to court and say, what have I done?

02:27:15.000 And they just sit there and look at you and go, we're taking your kids. 0.96

02:27:19.000 Sounds like a free country.

02:27:20.000 They say, you have to do what we say.

02:27:21.000 Give us an education plan.

02:27:23.000 And this will all go away.

02:27:24.000 Of course, you know it's not going to all go away.

02:27:27.000 Now, people have said to me, well, why don't the kids just take the test and prove that they're fine?

02:27:32.000 And I say, well, you know, my daughter's thirteen and a half.

02:27:34.000 She's got another two and a half years before she's sixteen.

02:27:37.000 That's two and a half years of that social work coming to my house every month.

02:27:41.000 And how many years of testing?

02:27:44.000 What incentive is there for us to surrender?

02:27:45.000 You've committed no crime, your kids are winning awards, and you've got people who have an agenda to take kids.

02:27:51.000 They get massive federal funding to do it.

02:27:53.000 It's in their own statements.

02:27:55.000 You've got them showing up with an axe to grind, no warrant, no nothing, running your life!

02:27:59.000 How would you like that, parents?

02:28:04.000 It's absolutely amazing.

02:28:06.000 Do you ever say to them, don't you have any humanity?

02:28:09.000 Don't you know what the Bill of Rights says?

02:28:12.000 Oh, well, I have a very Strong member of council who said to them, God will judge.

02:28:19.000 Your time will come.

02:28:21.000 You will be held accountable, perhaps not by me.

02:28:25.000 There's a higher power than me.

02:28:28.000 Well you reap what you sow and that's how it works.

02:28:31.000 Yep.

02:28:32.000 Well let me just say this too, when you put your kid in public school, we looked at a school that has eleven hundred students, a middle school here in Austin.

02:28:39.000 Then an investigation, it was actually in the paper, And they found that over 500 of the children, almost half or tenths of the children of 1100-500 had already had criminal charges filed against them.

02:28:57.000 Now in Austin, if you're late to class three times, late, that constitutes an unexcused absence that your parents can't excuse.

02:29:06.000 You are criminally charged and so are your parents.

02:29:10.000 And we found out that most of the parents paid the $500.

02:29:13.000 It was a $500 fine.

02:29:16.000 $500 plus court fees for like another $60.

02:29:19.000 So $560.

02:29:21.000 This happened to Mike Hanson, my cameraman's daughter.

02:29:23.000 His grandmother, Mike's grandmother, died two years ago.

02:29:27.000 They went to the funeral.

02:29:27.000 She was out two days.

02:29:30.000 Married their grandmother, who they all loved.

02:29:31.000 Very close family.

02:29:33.000 Came back with a note, and they criminally charged Crystal, his daughter, who was a straight-A student by the way, honor roll.

02:29:40.000 Criminally charged Mike.

02:29:41.000 He had his son in homeschooling.

02:29:44.000 Criminally charged Mike Hanson.

02:29:46.000 And Mike called the senator who wrote the law four years ago, and he said, wait, your law says 14 unexcused absences.

02:29:53.000 In a semester is criminal truancy.

02:29:55.000 How can they do it for one or two or three absences?

02:29:58.000 And he got the Senator on the record saying no.

02:30:00.000 The Senator wrote a letter, called the school district, said you must stop it.

02:30:04.000 They dropped the charges on Mike.

02:30:06.000 And then Mike investigated and found out that almost half the school, HALF the school, was under criminal charges.

02:30:13.000 Then they do it for a justification.

02:30:15.000 Okay, if you don't get in trouble for the next semester, we're going to let you get off of this for just $100, not the $560.

02:30:22.000 then when your kid is late again or does anything wrong criminal charges juvenile where seventeen-year-old gang

02:30:28.000 members with with with beards literal grown-up gang members

02:30:33.000 I do horrible things to your children so you see how this is about getting

02:30:36.000 everybody into the system I can see it

02:30:41.000 and this is Austin Texas This is Dallas, Texas.

02:30:44.000 The Houston Chronicle six months ago had a big series of articles.

02:30:47.000 It said, headline, Don't Fill Out Your Homework, Mommy Gets Arrested.

02:30:51.000 And they are arresting parents if the kids don't fill out all their homework.

02:30:55.000 First charge.

02:30:56.000 Does that sound like a free society to you?

02:30:58.000 It sounds like a fascist society to me.

02:31:03.000 And it's hidden in plain view.

02:31:05.000 Sure is.

02:31:07.000 Well, I'm ranting and raving here.

02:31:10.000 A lot of times they scurry away when you get news attention.

02:31:13.000 Did you get news attention six years ago when this started?

02:31:16.000 We got some... I think we were found in 97.

02:31:22.000 They were in court when they changed it from criminal to civil.

02:31:26.000 But what happens is they put you here in Massachusetts, the juvenile court proceedings are all closed, allegedly for the privacy of the children, but I tell you it's so that those government people can do whatever they want to you.

02:31:38.000 So you go to a court hearing and nobody knows what happens and it's hard for the press to stay interested when they can't go to any of the hearings.

02:31:46.000 And nobody will talk to them.

02:31:47.000 Yeah, secret government.

02:31:51.000 Alright, well the government says they can't tell us what anti-psychotics they want to give Dr. Sell, who's exposing government corruption so he's in solitary confinement.

02:31:58.000 They say for his, they can't tell him or anybody for his privacy.

02:32:04.000 Yeah, well at one point they told us that they couldn't, we were taping, anytime the social worker came we were taping her visits.

02:32:13.000 And they would say, well, we can't allow her to be taped. 1.00

02:32:15.000 We'd say, what law allows you to, you know, do this in secret?

02:32:19.000 You know, what says you can't be taped?

02:32:21.000 And they would say, oh, well, we have to do this for the children's privacy.

02:32:24.000 Yeah, they're in a hearing with the parents, at the house, no warrant, can't have a record.

02:32:29.000 That's so they can do whatever they want and falsify.

02:32:32.000 Did you say no to that?

02:32:33.000 Exactly.

02:32:33.000 We said no.

02:32:34.000 You know, give us a copy of the law.

02:32:36.000 They said, well, We have to do this to protect the children's rights, because they're in our custody.

02:32:42.000 We said, show us the law relative to children's rights.

02:32:45.000 And we called the Ombudsman's office, we called the Commissioner's office, we talked to the press, and they backed down.

02:32:53.000 Police are now fighting to make it illegal to videotape any type of government building or proceeding, but then every time they get caught doing something wrong, the videotape gets edited.

02:33:03.000 Uh-huh.

02:33:04.000 Alright, let's take a call.

02:33:05.000 John in Michigan.

02:33:06.000 You're on the air with Mrs. Bryant.

02:33:07.000 Go ahead, John.

02:33:08.000 Hello, and God bless you.

02:33:11.000 I homeschool my children here in Michigan.

02:33:12.000 Michigan is one of the best states for homeschooling.

02:33:14.000 If you're having trouble there, you might want to move here.

02:33:18.000 Yeah, that's a question.

02:33:19.000 Hold on, John.

02:33:20.000 What about moving to another state?

02:33:23.000 Well, I've looked into it, and it isn't much better out there.

02:33:26.000 Actually, I have seen Michigan stuff, and I think that's because Kwanlora has fought the court stuff in Michigan. 0.82

02:33:33.000 And I think they've done a pretty good job because you haven't had HSLDA out there, the Homeschool Legal Defense, and so I think Michigan's doing pretty well.

02:33:42.000 We moved to Connecticut for a while to try and protect our kids.

02:33:45.000 They have a good law too, but we have family in Massachusetts.

02:33:49.000 I understand.

02:33:50.000 It's roots.

02:33:51.000 One more thing, please?

02:33:52.000 Yes.

02:33:53.000 Where I think they get their power is in the marriage license. 1.00

02:33:56.000 When you put your name down on that marriage license, you put your maiden name down, and that makes your child a bastard. 1.00

02:34:01.000 It does, but see, that's illegitimate.

02:34:05.000 That's contract by fraud, and the Constitution is still in operation according to the 9th and 10th Amendment, so we can try to legitimize what they're doing by saying, oh, well, the marriage certificate, and for those that doubt this, it just came out in mainstream news, the heel blood they take from your baby goes into a federal DNA database, okay?

02:34:21.000 All of this is done criminally through color of law.

02:34:25.000 I agree Alex, but if she goes back and just changes that, it may give her a little more power.

02:34:29.000 That's all.

02:34:29.000 God bless y'all.

02:34:30.000 Thank you.

02:34:31.000 Absolutely.

02:34:32.000 Well, the problem is they set the parameter across the board, then the cops are so used to violating rights, they think it's all normal.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, I find the problem is too, for us, that you... I like a lot of this stuff I hear and read about, you know, about the marriage license and birth certificates and trying to wipe out all that paper trail and all of that.

02:34:52.000 But it's really hard to argue for me in court unless you're well grounded, and I see it takes a lot of research.

02:34:57.000 And we don't have an attorney.

02:34:59.000 We haven't had an attorney for five years.

02:35:01.000 Oh, your attorney didn't do a very good job for you, huh?

02:35:04.000 No.

02:35:05.000 No, I don't think any of them do.

02:35:06.000 Any lawyer that practices in your area is going to have deals with everybody, and can be disbarred if they do a good job.

02:35:14.000 You've got to have a good family lawyer that is friends of the family, that you have known for decades, and then they know all the tricks, and will actually defend you.

02:35:24.000 And they have to know the Constitution.

02:35:25.000 I mean, this case is entirely about the Constitution, and if you're not willing to stand up to the Constitution, Forget it.

02:35:33.000 You can't possibly understand.

02:35:35.000 I mean, we've gone in and said, is the Constitution law?

02:35:38.000 And an attorney will say to me, yeah, it's law as interpreted by the Supreme Court.

02:35:43.000 Wait a minute.

02:35:43.000 Can't you read it for yourself?

02:35:45.000 Why would I need a government agent to tell me what my law says?

02:35:48.000 We've also got older Supreme Court rulings that are constitutional.

02:35:52.000 You can get that precedent and show it, and that is good on the record for appeals, but The problem is, they're going totally criminal now.

02:35:59.000 I mean, when almost half the school in Austin, the kids and the families are under criminal charges.

02:36:04.000 Half the kids?

02:36:06.000 Three times late?

02:36:08.000 I mean, when I went to Anderson High, I went to a government training camp here in Austin.

02:36:12.000 I went two years in Dallas, two years here.

02:36:14.000 And in the government training camp, the school was so big, I had to carry my books in a bag.

02:36:21.000 I couldn't get from one end of the school to the other in three minutes.

02:36:25.000 And then, if you were late three times, and I was making 100s and 99s and 98s and 100s when I graduated.

02:36:34.000 And I still, one time, had to go to Saturday suspension.

02:36:38.000 Because I had been late three times in that semester to class.

02:36:43.000 I mean, if you walked in ten seconds before, I mean after the bell, and I remember teachers getting in trouble if good students got there late.

02:36:51.000 They would just ignore that you came in late.

02:36:52.000 I remember teachers getting reprimanded.

02:36:54.000 They would have the principals walking around looking for, and this is decades ago.

02:36:59.000 They would have teachers walking around trying to catch teachers that weren't putting kids into the system.

02:37:06.000 And you go to Saturday school, it's all the drug heads, it's all the thugs, all the gang members.

02:37:12.000 You're in there, people throwing spit wads.

02:37:14.000 You're sitting facing forward.

02:37:16.000 If you do one thing wrong, you get two more Saturdays.

02:37:18.000 That didn't happen to me.

02:37:20.000 It's getting your kids into the criminal system.

02:37:23.000 Yeah, well it kind of amazes me that they pretend that these grades are assessments of your educational ability, and then your grade gets knocked down if you miss so many classes.

02:37:33.000 You know, if I can do the work, then who cares if I miss it?

02:37:37.000 The grade's not reflecting my education, per se.

02:37:40.000 It's arbitrary.

02:37:42.000 Well, I mean, look, we had people like the President during the Civil War, Who could speak four languages and could write longhand in Latin and Abraham Lincoln who was trained by his mommy.

02:37:57.000 My father could speak Latin and could write by the time he was six years old.

02:38:06.000 His grandmother read to him.

02:38:07.000 You know, she lived in the house and he, you know, slept in the same room with his bed next to hers in the old hundred-and-something-year-old house and she would read the classics to him.

02:38:17.000 And, you know, this is what we used to have when people didn't want to send their kids to school, they just didn't send them.

02:38:24.000 And your kid went for about six months a year and it was locally controlled.

02:38:28.000 And now that's totally changed.

02:38:31.000 Now the federal government's going to control your education or lack thereof.

02:38:35.000 And you're five times more likely to be abused in government schools, government custody, and CPS custody.

02:38:42.000 Well I have to tell you, we put in an education plan under all this threat, and the education plan has a section on it that says, upon approval, The Waltham School Department and the Department of Social Services take full responsibility for the children's education or lack thereof.

02:38:59.000 And they wouldn't accept it.

02:39:01.000 They want no responsibility, no accountability.

02:39:05.000 And at the same time, they go into court and say, oh, we're responsible for the children, your honor, we have to do this testing.

02:39:10.000 And when they kill the kids in custody, when they do all these horrible things to them, and yes, some CPS in Florida has been caught selling them out, the pedophile rings, that's Miami Herald, by the way, the head of the organization that runs the database convicted pedophile, they say that doesn't matter, 187 of them are known pedophiles, and when all this happened, they said it doesn't matter.

02:39:31.000 It doesn't matter what we do to the kids, and they will not prosecute the social workers and others that abuse the children.

02:39:38.000 And his predators are drawn towards this. 1.00

02:39:41.000 I mean, if you're a psychopath and a degenerate scumbag, you become a CPS worker. 1.00

02:39:47.000 Yep. 1.00

02:39:47.000 You've got a whole slew of victims right there. 1.00

02:39:51.000 And nobody can stop you.

02:39:52.000 You can just feed on them all you want.

02:39:54.000 Nope.

02:39:55.000 And everybody will just keep giving you more because there's money in it.

02:40:01.000 I mean, God bless the children.

02:40:02.000 Well, I have the Calhoun Reader used at UT by social service people going to school for that, and it says, it says the age of the family belongs to barbarism, the age of the state is upon us, and they say in the major source reference book for a four-year bachelor's, that they say their job is to liquidate the family and create a government system.

02:40:28.000 Yeah, there's a book Dan Johnson wrote this book called The Public Family, where he looks at the writings of Dewey back in the early 1900s, when all of this stuff was taken off and compulsory education was moving out across the country, and he looks at his writings from substituting the state as mother of children.

02:40:49.000 That was the entire purpose of the public schools.

02:40:53.000 And they were also into eugenics?

02:40:55.000 And, uh, how to break the family up, this, uh, lead to forced sterilization of kids that made under a B+.

02:41:00.000 Amazing.

02:41:03.000 I know, it's just, it's, and they say in their own source books that they all use, we're gonna break your families up, that's our job.

02:41:10.000 And then they have the nerve in the news to act like they care about the family.

02:41:15.000 It's like you said, it's all out in the open, behind closed doors.

02:41:19.000 Yeah, just right out in the open, but then the news all, oh they love you, oh they care about you, oh all these little pieces of propaganda they put out there.

02:41:27.000 We'll come back and take some more calls, finish up with our guest, wrap up this powerful broadcast.

02:41:31.000 This has been an A-plus show today.

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02:42:56.000 We listened.

02:42:57.000 You asked us to include an emergency light for camping and during power outages.

02:43:01.000 We listened.

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02:45:19.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]

02:45:21.000 And talking to our guests, Kim Bryant, whose 15 and 13-year-old son and daughter are under attack by the government for six years straight.

02:45:30.000 They're winning all these awards on these different competitions for academia.

02:45:36.000 Doesn't seem to matter to the government, and the government says, the CPS worker says, we have legal custody of the children and we will deal with them as we see fit.

02:45:45.000 They are minors and they do what we tell them to.

02:45:48.000 You will take tests, you will follow our orders.

02:45:51.000 How can people help you, Mrs. Bryant?

02:45:54.000 How do people get involved?

02:45:55.000 Well, I've encouraged people to send letters.

02:45:59.000 We don't really have a legal fund, but if they want to write to the Commissioner, Commissioner Spence of the Department of Social Services at 24 Farnsworth Street in Boston, Massachusetts.

02:46:12.000 I'm not sure what the zip is.

02:46:16.000 0-2-1-0-8 is probably close enough.

02:46:20.000 And when we confront them, when we fight them, when we're in the states resisting them, they will move on to other states.

02:46:25.000 We mentioned Michigan being better because it was one of the worst states and people fought it.

02:46:30.000 We've got to have people fighting this, standing up, supporting those in your area when this happens.

02:46:36.000 Yeah, I wish there was more support.

02:46:39.000 Because it would be real nice if we had a groundswell of people at the court.

02:46:43.000 Now, you're in Waltham, right?

02:46:44.000 Yep.

02:46:45.000 And where is that near in MASH?

02:46:47.000 Waltham is about 10 miles outside of Boston.

02:46:50.000 Okay, we... Allenton West.

02:46:51.000 We were on the air in Boston, that station sold in switch formats, but we have a lot of listeners that listen on the internet and shortwave there.

02:46:58.000 If they want to get in touch with you, to meet with you, to help you, to get involved, or to show up at court, how do they do that?

02:47:04.000 An email address or something?

02:47:05.000 I think email is the best way to reach me.

02:47:07.000 I'm at free2b.

02:47:09.000 Free to be is all one word.

02:47:11.000 free to be at all one all one word f are e_e_ t_o_p_ e at are c_n_n_ dot com alright i want to really thank you 0.84

02:47:21.000 for coming on the show and i want to thank you for

02:47:24.000 standing up for your family so that two more of the children of america will not be rekt mindless

02:47:29.000 brainwashed heathen as the uh... reeducation uh... factories are turning out

02:47:35.000 And to God's speed, we'll track your case.

02:47:37.000 You've got my number if you need us to come on the air and give out phone numbers or anything in the future.

02:47:42.000 God bless you.

02:47:43.000 Great, thank you.

02:47:45.000 Absolutely.

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02:48:18.000 Get the videos, make copies, get them out to opinion makers, unlock people's minds, help them see the big picture so they understand what we're facing.

02:48:27.000 And that's what my videos do, because they cover the spectrum of the New World Order attack and takeover, and how to resist these enemy combatants that are overthrowing our rightful republic, our government.

02:48:37.000 Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to order via the Secure Online Shopping Carts, or toll free 1-888-253-3139.

02:48:43.000 888-253-3139. That's 888-253-3139. Or just write to me, Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar,

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02:49:06.000 Keep spreading the word about the show.

02:49:13.000 Keep getting involved in the fight against the New World Order.

02:49:15.000 We're going to win this thing.

02:49:16.000 We don't have a choice.

02:49:17.000 They're going to keep pushing.

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