Alex Jones Live from Austin, Texas on the 19th of June, 2003. In the first half of the show, we have the lawyer for the original plaintiff in Roe v. Wade coming on the show to talk about his efforts to force the Neocons and the Supreme Court to reverse Roe V. Wade, in the second half, Alex Jones is joined by Greg Palast, who is against the war, the lies, and the propaganda of the New World Order. In the third hour, we cover a bunch of news from around the world, including a report from Zacharias Moussaoui saying that the government had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks when he wants to address Congress. Also, Bush threatens Iran with actions to halt its nuclear ambitions, and we ll get into the U.S. options for North Korea run from bad to worse. And we'll get into panel probing September 11th, and a report that DARPA has a new brain interface system they want to create for the military with microchips.
00:00:21.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:25.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:30.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another live edition of the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:47.000Hard to believe that it is already Thursday, the 19th of June, 2003.
00:00:57.000We'll be live for the next three hours.
00:00:59.000We have the lawyer for the original plaintiff in Roe v. Wade.
00:01:08.000Coming on the show in the second hour to talk about, well, attempting to force the Neocons and the Neocon Supreme Court to reverse Roe v. Wade and stop any further killing.
00:01:24.000There's already been 54 million children murdered in this country.
00:01:31.000And you can rationalize all day long You can try to make excuses all you want, but it is murder, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll be discussing that in this historical case.
00:01:43.000In the third hour, I've got one of these rock stars coming on who is against the war and the lies and the propaganda of the New World Order.
00:02:12.000Saying that the government had prior knowledge of the attacks when he wants to address Congress.
00:02:16.000Also, Senator Orrin Hatch takes aim at illegal downloading.
00:02:19.000Wants the government to have a backdoor into your computer to have a hack system running.
00:02:24.000Total violation of every canon of a free society.
00:02:26.000Had a Newsmax story I never got to that has quotes out of UNESCO's founding documents that Bush has just signed on to.
00:02:36.000The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization Where they say the family must be destroyed.
00:02:44.000Now I have the Calhoun Reader, the desk reference for those going to be social workers at the University of Texas, and they have this at many other universities.
00:02:53.000It's the standard textbook, the Calhoun Reader, where they say the family must be destroyed, that the family belongs to the age of barbarism, that their job is to destroy the family.
00:03:07.000Now how could any of you have your kids in the public school and make excuses when they admit it's about destroying the family?
00:03:14.000And how could Bush sign back onto an organization that Ronald Reagan got us out of?
00:03:20.000When Charlotte Isserby was the head of policy at the Department of Education.
00:03:26.000And of course they've implemented all the plans in it, but now they're signing back onto it to give it more funding.
00:03:33.000So that's coming up early in this hour as well.
00:03:37.000Also, Bush threatens Iran with actions to halt its nuclear ambitions.
00:04:27.000options for North Korea run from bad to worse.
00:04:30.000And we'll get into panel probing September 11th, request of documents, and of course what Zachariah Smith-Sally said, DARPA has a new brain interface system they want to create for the military with the microchips.
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00:06:24.000The film documents dozens of confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism worldwide.
00:06:28.000We rip the Sinister Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart, piece by piece, and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty.
00:06:41.000The New Prison Economy, The Total Information Society, The Pan American Union, Federal Gun Grabs, Government Run, White Slavery Rings, and much, much more.
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00:08:58.000In the third hour, we'll be talking about what some of the left-wingers are doing.
00:09:04.000Starting to wake up to the New World Order and the real paradigm.
00:09:09.000So you'll want to stay with us for that.
00:09:11.000Of course, we'll have open phones throughout the broadcast.
00:09:13.000The toll-free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.
00:09:17.000I want to get into UNESCO saying their job is to destroy the family, the UN group that Bush just signed back onto.
00:09:27.000I also want to get into what Orrin Hatch wants to do with your computers, having the government having a backdoor into all your computers to destroy them whenever and however they wish.
00:09:40.000Absolute violation of the Fourth Amendment, and the government even says it will violate its own hacking laws, but they're going to go ahead and change those, and Hatch just isn't talking about this.
00:09:50.000A bill's been proposed, I saw it last year, to do this.
00:09:54.000And really the big news is that the neocons, PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, the think tank founded in 96 by Bush's cabinet, in waiting Said they want World War III, global domination, global empire.
00:10:13.000They called it imperial mobilization in another paper.
00:10:17.000They said they needed terrorist attacks.
00:10:19.000Large attacks on the scale of Pearl Harbor or larger to get us behind these endless wars.
00:10:26.000Well, now the globalists have gone into Iraq publicly to get the oil and to have Iraq as a military base to launch into Syria and Iran, and now they're doing it!
00:10:34.000Now they're saying they're going to do it.
00:10:38.000And now they're trying to push the psychopaths in North Korea into striking us first so they have a pretext to get us into World War III.
00:10:45.000And people will, in a primitive fashion, will shift into mindless groupthink, will worship the government during this World War III period, and will willingly give up their liberties en masse, unless we expose who the terrorists are, and how they've set this thing up, and point people their own public documents where the globalists planned all of this.
00:11:06.000They just know that most of you don't read white papers by prestigious think tanks.
00:11:11.000But more Americans are beginning to learn of PNAC.
00:11:15.000I've been on liberal and conservative shows from Louisiana to Oklahoma to New York to California to Idaho to Florida in the last week or two and everybody's calling in bringing up PNAC to me.
00:11:29.000So there is an awakening taking place to the confessions of these criminals.
00:11:38.000To premeditatedly say, we need terrorist attacks against America, to get the people behind a war for global empire, to get the national resources, and then to come out and say that it's not about national resources, that it's not about global power, that it's not about weapon sales, is a fraud and is a lie and is a massive racketeering conspiracy.
00:12:15.000I didn't want to have to do this on the air, but I'm going to do it.
00:12:18.000And I know there's no way to address all the people that are doing this, but I'd have to do that on 20 shows to reach the entire audience, because people tune in at different times.
00:12:29.000The whole audience isn't obviously there at one time.
00:12:32.000You know, I produce documentary films, and I tell people they can make copies for non-profit, not-for-sale purposes.
00:12:39.000That means you can make copies of my videos to hand about to friends and family.
00:12:44.000And nobody else that I know of does this.
00:12:46.000I do this because I really do care, I want to wake this country up, I want to defeat the New World Order.
00:12:50.000And because I do that, I don't sell as many videotapes, which is my main source of funding for my staff and what we do, and funds to produce more films in the future.
00:12:59.000And to have cameras and computers and editing systems and all of that.
00:13:05.000And when I found out that a major Christian organization would only buy like 20 of my videos every couple months.
00:13:17.000And I knew they were advertising in major newspapers and magazines and I kind of ignored it.
00:13:22.000I instinctively knew they must be bootlegging them and making copies.
00:13:28.000And then I found out because I was mailed... I get mailed copies of videos in different jackets and different sleeves and different stickers saying this video is in high quality, there's a dead spot on it, return it.
00:14:15.000Especially when it's people that have a lot of money.
00:14:21.000I mean, what's really funny is this individual, this group, will order videos and say oh can we pay you later we don't have the money and there they are and I've talked to people that have advertised these publications selling guaranteed thousands of videos more than I'm selling and they are then doing this to me it makes me so angry because with that money I could hire more people get other
00:14:48.000Other editors to work on other jobs, have better computers, have better cameras, have a bigger budget, and affect more change and save this country.
00:14:57.000You see, it isn't good enough to these people that I say make copies of my films for non-profit, educational, or for self-purposes.
00:15:06.000And I want to commend those that have gotten the films, have made copies, that have aired them on AXS TV, that have gotten them out to people.
00:15:14.000But anybody making bootlegs of my videos And selling them, report it to me immediately.
00:15:20.000Because I'm going to start taking legal action.
00:15:22.000Because I am sick and tired of the deception out there.
00:15:28.000And I tell you, a lot of these so-called Christians are the ones that will stab you in the back in a minute.
00:15:33.000Because they're not Christians, they're a bunch of profiteers, manipulators.
00:15:39.000And I for one am sick and tired of it.
00:15:42.000I don't want to get off into some big discussion of it, but I really do hope the listeners will get my original high-quality videos and of course Road to Tyranny on DVD.
00:15:53.000I hope that you'll get it from InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or from 888-253-3139.
00:16:21.000If you're going to make copies of that fifth generation video, why not get the originals from me, support our cause, help us produce more films in the future, and at the same time make a high quality second generation copy?
00:16:38.000Because we do need your support here, folks.
00:16:40.000We've had a lot of growing pains, and we have just incredibly insane expenses for what we do.
00:16:50.000And I don't do what the other hosts do.
00:16:52.000I don't get up here and harangue you for contributions, and harangue you for this and that, because I've recognized it so many times in the past.
00:17:01.000You know, I don't want to be seen as a Robert Tilton or something, but I never talked about this.
00:17:07.000You know, our AM and FM affiliates pick us up, and then they get part of the commercials, and we get part of the commercials in a network arrangement.
00:17:15.000But when it comes to shortwave, I pay for it.
00:17:33.000We do this to have an international outreach to reach the world with the truth and I do this and I don't talk about it ever, ever on the air and there are fat cat Christian organizations stealing from me and they will pay me back or they will be exposed on the air.
00:17:56.000Because You know, I am just so sick and tired of it.
00:18:00.000I am fighting as hard as I can to defeat the New World Order, and these videos are mini printing presses, and that's why I authorize the listeners to make copies of them, and I want you to, and I want you to get them out to opinion makers.
00:18:16.000So please go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and get The Road to Tyranny, get The Masters of Terror, get Police State 3 Total Enslavement, get my book Dissent into Tyranny, Go sign up at Infowars.net for great internet service to help us pay the bandwidth cost that I never talk about.
00:18:35.000And help us reach out to the American people.
00:18:39.000I mean, who else, when you go buy a minority report, does it say on the movie jacket, please make copies for non-profit educational purposes?
00:18:52.000That's not enough for these slimeballs.
00:18:53.000Well, I know it's enough for you, and I appreciate you out there, but we do need your support.
00:18:58.000So go buy all my videos, and buy my book, and make copies of the films, and do the right thing, because 90% of those that see the films are waking up, and are having the blinders taken off of their eyes.
00:19:14.000And that, my friends, is very, very exciting.
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00:23:55.00024 hours a day 800-419-2335 800-419-2335 800-419-2335 alright my friends Alex Jones back live
00:24:20.000And one more note about the people bootlegging and selling my videos, ripping me off.
00:24:25.000You know, I'm not going to talk about any of these people on the air.
00:24:32.000And, you know, I've sued people before.
00:24:34.000I don't make a big deal or public deal about that, but on other issues, I'm not going to sit here and take this type of garbage from people.
00:24:43.000Their deception, their lies, their corruption.
00:24:47.000But I am certainly just angry, angry about that type of stuff, because I have worked so hard to fight the New World Order.
00:24:58.000And so many of our problems are in the so-called alternative media.
00:25:02.000But that's just the nature of the world as things get more and more corrupt.
00:25:06.000Let me cover what UNESCO had to say, and this is important.
00:25:35.000Unless Congress regains a modicum of sanity, the United States of America is about to rejoin an organization dedicated to the destruction of the last vestiges of Christian civilization.
00:25:49.000For reasons inexplicable, the most sensible Americans, in September 2002, an otherwise sensible President George W. Bush, told the United Nations that the U.S.
00:25:59.000will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, or UNESCO.
00:26:07.000A wild-eyed bunch of President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and that the U.S.
00:26:14.000had no business being a member of such a group.
00:26:19.000I was on a talk show last night with Charlotte Isserby in Oklahoma City and she pointed out that she tried to get us out of it, but that they only got out of it in name and stopped funding the UN itself, but the Department of Education funded the exact UNESCO handbooks for the schools and the administration and for the National Education Association's policies.
00:26:59.000You mean sensible when he tried to block arming the pilots when Barbara Boxer was for it?
00:27:05.000You mean the sensible President who's for blanket amnesty and open borders?
00:27:08.000You mean the sensible President that blocked Dan Burton's committee investigating Pardongate?
00:27:14.000George Bush protecting the Clinton, pardoning the convicted cocaine dealers and money launderers?
00:27:20.000You mean the George Bush that says he's going to re-sign the Clinton assault weapons ban and add a bunch of bans, including a ban on all semi-automatic shotguns?
00:28:15.000It says, consider this, Jim, from UNESCO's Own Policy Report, a ten-part series for teachers, published in 1949.
00:28:23.000Under the title, Towards World Understanding, Asserted that quote, one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of a world society.
00:28:36.000But government schools must stamp out love of country and the family must be viewed as the enemy.
00:28:43.000As long as children read Poisoned air of nationalism, education world mindedness can produce only rather precarious results.
00:28:51.000As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism.
00:28:57.000The school should therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism.
00:29:06.000So there, they call the family a disease, they say it's got to be gotten rid of, and I have the Calhoun Reader used at UT today.
00:29:13.000I don't know about your college, but it's the big standard desk reference for people going to be school teachers or social workers.
00:29:21.000It says, the family must be eradicated.
00:29:24.000It belongs to the age of barbarism, the state for the future.
00:29:29.000Right out of Brave New World, right out of 1984.
00:29:31.000Of course, Huxley's brother was Julian Huxley, the author of 1984.
00:29:36.000His brother later became, excuse me, the author of Brave New World.
00:29:40.000Aldous Huxley's brother, Julian Huxley, became the first Secretary General and Director of UNESCO in 1946.
00:29:49.000So, Brave New World's what they want to do.
00:29:52.000Drug the kids, all this garbage, it's what they're doing.
00:29:55.000We'll be right back and we'll cover World War III.
00:29:58.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
00:32:14.000and uh... will get you up and on the air eight hundred two five nine ninety two
00:32:20.000party one and that your calls and that news about world war three are
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00:33:13.000You know, a lot of your listeners and callers have been calling us up saying, when are you going to get the fluoride reduction filters Uh, available for the, uh, uh, for the black Berkey filter elements.
00:33:25.000We had one little glitch that we had to fix, but, uh, we're here to announce that, uh, we've come out with the fluoride and arsenic reduction filters.
00:33:35.000Uh, that was the one area that, uh, we just couldn't get the volume in on the black Berkey filter elements.
00:33:40.000You get a couple hundred gallons and then we start getting an analyte breakthrough on those filter elements.
00:33:46.000Let me stop you, Jim, because for those that don't know, they put fluoride in the water, sodium fluoride, not the good fluoride, calcium fluoride, but sodium fluoride as a byproduct of aluminum plants from World War II.
00:33:58.000They had this toxic waste, so they started putting it in the water, claiming it was good for us.
00:34:02.000It's been proven to cause sluggishness and brain damage and bone fractures.
00:34:07.000Mainstream, hundreds of major universities, absolute fact.
00:34:11.000Fluoride, you can, I mean, you know, it'll do thousands of gallons, cut out the bacteria, the herbicides, the pesticides, but fluoride is well known to go through basically everything.
00:34:39.000Why does it cut across almost any medium?
00:34:42.000Well, the reason why it's so difficult to extract, Alex, is because you need a large amount of media to extract a very little amount of fluoride.
00:35:59.000So in other words, on that second set, you're getting half off on that.
00:36:05.000And we're going to do that through the end of the month.
00:36:07.000Now, we also have a special for people who do not have a Berkey Light system and want to go ahead and get one.
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00:36:33.000Now, for those who don't understand, the fluoride filters go over the black murky filter.
00:36:40.000Well, they actually screw onto the stem.
00:36:43.000And so the water is going to go through the black murky purifying elements first, and it's going to clean all the junk out of it.
00:36:50.000And then it's going to go through the post filters, and it's going to attack specifically the arsenic and the fluoride.
00:36:56.000And then it goes into the lower chamber that holds your purified water.
00:37:06.000They screw on the stem of the filter elements, and they hang down in the lower chamber.
00:37:12.000Jim, I know you do exhaustive testing.
00:37:14.000How long will these post filters work to cut out the fluoride and the arsenic?
00:37:20.000OK, a set of two is going to go about 1,000 gallons.
00:37:24.000And so folks, you can determine how long they're going to last by how many times you're refilling your chamber each day.
00:37:33.000And for those who don't know, how many gallons do the big black murky filters do for the pathogenic bacteria, the chlorine, and all the rest of the garbage?
00:37:41.000Each one of those filters is going to do 2,000 gallons.
00:37:45.000And so you're going to have 4,000 gallons of filtration.
00:37:49.000And under normal use, they're going to last for two to four years.
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00:40:46.000Now, I want to recap this briefly. Bush and his cabinet, Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, in '96, before they were even
00:40:56.000talking about running for election, founded the neocon think tank, Project for a New American Century.
00:41:02.000And they penned essays, white papers, where they said, we need America to be attacked with a Pearl Harbor-style attack, or larger, by terrorists, for imperial mobilization to set up a new world order.
00:41:25.000We can set up a police state here domestically.
00:41:28.000As long as we're in a war, the people will support the government.
00:41:33.000They'll support the government while they take your pension funds, while they take the veterans' health care, while they take your guns, while they open the borders, while they do all of this.
00:41:42.000While they institute Patriot Act 1 and 2.
00:41:45.000While they build giant prisons that they profiteer off of.
00:41:49.000They went into Iraq, paid off the Republican Guard, opposition imploded.
00:41:54.000Now they're setting up a dictatorship, taking over the free press, confiscating the guns.
00:42:01.000In the cities, the government will appoint 300 people who then vote for who the leader is.
00:42:07.000So I go out and tell my people who can vote, and they go vote for me.
00:42:29.000Bush threatens Iran with action to halt its nuclear ambitions.
00:42:33.000Now, Donald Rumsfeld gave them the reactors on the board of ABB, the Swiss company.
00:42:41.000As he was the bag man in 83, transferring the chemical and biologicals to Saddam.
00:42:47.000President Bush issued his darkest threat to Iran yesterday, saying that the world would not tolerate its nuclear ambitions, close quote.
00:42:56.000Days after infuriating Iran's ruling clerics by cheering demonstrations in Iran cities, Mr. Bush suggested the U.S.
00:43:05.000would act rather than allow Iraq's neighbor to develop a nuclear capability.
00:43:09.000Asked if he was going to stop Iran from building a bomb.
00:43:12.000Mr. Bush said it will be dangerous if they have a nuclear weapon.
00:43:15.000He said the international community must come together to make it clear to Iran that we will not tolerate the construction of nuclear weapons in Iran.
00:43:24.000Now, Iran denies that this is happening.
00:43:36.000will not act unilaterally against Iran.
00:43:37.000Dan Bartlett, Mr. Bush's communications director, told the Times that Iran was an issue for the world body, for the whole world, unlike the route to increase pressure against Iran would be through the U.N.
00:44:00.000Now Bush A couple weeks ago I was at the G8 meeting and the whole G8 said, yeah we're for you attacking Iran if need be to stop them producing nuclear weapons.
00:44:14.000But then you look at who's helped give them the systems that they can now claim are being used for nuclear weapons.
00:44:19.000Now I have no doubt that Iran is trying to produce a bomb.
00:44:24.000I have no doubt, in fact it's admitted, That North Korea has the bomb.
00:44:29.000But our government acts like they don't.
00:44:31.000They've got to stop them from getting one.
00:44:35.000Now, according to the Federation of American Scientists and the Associated Press, Pyongyang, North Korea, can produce 100 nuclear warheads a year.
00:44:44.000And China gave them the technology to perfect their intermediate-range missiles, some of which can hit the West Coast.
00:44:52.000And Alaska, they shoot them over the pole.
00:44:57.000And so now they've been enabled, they've been empowered, and the globalists don't care.
00:45:01.000In fact, by threatening to invade, and by Rumsfeld releasing his invasion plan of North Korea two months ago, now North Korea is freaking out, threatening everyone, massing troops.
00:45:22.000And boy, try criticizing the government when they're in the middle of a war with North Korea and Iran and Syria and they got a national draft in place.
00:45:31.000And of course terrorists will conveniently carry out attacks, the government will be doing that of course, per the Northwoods plan to get everyone behind the war during this period.
00:45:45.000So, uh, in Paris, two women and one man set themselves on fire.
00:45:49.000They were among 100 demonstrators who had gathered near the headquarters of the DST to counter espionage service, demanding the release of a leader of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, which was the target of a police sweep on Tuesday.
00:46:02.000Self-ventilations were also attempted by Iranian protesters in Hamburg and other German cities.
00:46:10.000You know, it takes a lot for somebody to set themselves on fire.
00:46:14.000And I don't think it's a good thing to do, but you talk about desperation to do something like this, and some are injured, others are dying from this.
00:46:24.000There's now intolations taking place in Iraq.
00:46:26.000They know if they shoot somebody, that'll be turned against them.
00:46:31.000And so they're just setting themselves on fire and committing suicide.
00:46:36.000Because they're in so much pain, they're so enslaved after 12 years of bombardment and genocide and DU, salting of the earth with depleted uranium.
00:46:47.000And they've made all this a left-right debate, all the liberals are against the war.
00:46:50.000No, Chuckie Schumer and Hillary Clinton and all the big socialists and Dianne Feinstein were for the war.
00:47:32.000Published in 1949 under the title, Towards World Understanding, Asserted that one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of a world society, but government schools must stamp out love of country, and the family must be viewed as the enemy.
00:47:49.000As long as the children breathe the poisoned air of nationalism, education and world-mindedness can produce only rather precarious results.
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00:53:50.000They don't have any resources, they don't have anything to take, you know, taking that country over or whatever is not going to... But in the meantime, Dan, that's not true.
00:54:00.000The Iraqis laid down, special forces infiltrated British and U.S., paid them off in gold bars, euros, and dollars.
00:54:32.000I just think it's a diversionary tactic because in the meantime they're genociding a bunch of people, which is their plan too at the same time.
00:54:41.000You keep nutrition away from them, you keep food away from them because they're threatening with the nuclear bombs and stuff.
00:54:47.000It's an excuse just to keep that thing going.
00:54:49.000Well, I think that the Globalists haven't really cared for the last few decades because Kim Jong-il and his daddy Dictatorships seem to have hereditary, you know, power systems.
00:55:31.000It was the army that gave them the nukes.
00:55:34.000So if you were president, you wouldn't have fried them back then?
00:55:37.000Well, they were communists and they were little minions, but no, the government, as McCarthy found out, ran the communist system at a level above that, and our government gave the Russians the nukes and the weapons and the systems.
00:55:51.000So what I'm saying is the Rosenbergs were patsies.
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00:56:52.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:56:57.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:57:01.000You've heard that the woman known as Roe, in Roe v. Wade, the plaintiff to the Supreme Court in 73, landmark case that legalized the extermination now of 50 plus million children, it dwarfs uh... slavery and the amount of deaths and uh... despair that we had in this country the slavery of black people and uh... now the uh... the uh... woman known as rogue has uh... well she's allowed to have a brief to the court because uh... she was a plaintiff in the case she's of course a born-again christian and knows now that it's murder and wants to reverse this and it's being brought to the Supreme Court joining us is Sharon Blakeney
00:57:52.000And we appreciate her joining us, attorney and counselor at law, and she is one of the lawyers on the team with the organization here in Texas that is countering the government and trying to reverse this Nazi policy.
00:58:10.000And Sharon, thanks for joining us on the show today.
00:58:14.000Tell us about yourself, tell us about your client and where this is all going, please.
00:58:19.000Well, obviously it's going to be going to the Supreme Court.
00:58:23.000Our client is tremendously relieved, quite frankly, Alex, at the filing of this.
00:58:29.000I don't know if you got to see any of the press coverage, but it really lifted a great weight off of her shoulders.
00:58:35.000She has borne this burden for quite some time after she realized the travesty that abortion is to women and children.
00:58:44.000And she very much wishes to see this case set aside and overturned and we fully intend to represent her in doing that.
00:58:53.000Well that's wonderful and give us details about your client and I want to revisit the 73 case and then look at what you think is going to happen with the new case at the Supreme Court.
00:59:28.000The doctor said, it's illegal to perform abortion in Texas, but I know an attorney that would like to see that changed and maybe she can help you.
00:59:36.000And then Norma was introduced to the attorney that filed the Roe vs. Wade case.
01:00:25.000Just wanted to make sure you're still there.
01:00:28.000Basically, after the ruling, Norma did become a worker in abortion clinics for several years, and it was during that time that she saw how abortion negatively affected women.
01:00:42.000And then she became a Christian and very pro-life.
01:00:46.000She has her own pro-life ministry, Roe No More.
01:00:49.000And that is how we came to represent her.
01:00:54.000And through what we believe will be a dramatic change in the law of this country, we have filed this Rule 60 motion on her behalf to see the case overturned.
01:01:08.000Now, President Bush's wife is against overturning Roe v. Wade.
01:01:12.000Do you think Bush will try to block this somehow?
01:01:15.000No, actually, Alex, if you look online at the press briefing that Ari Fleischer gave yesterday morning, he was asked directly if the President has ever contended that the Supreme Court was wrong in ruling on Roe v. Wade.
01:01:30.000And Ari Fleischer answered that the President repeatedly said throughout 2000... Alright, Sharon stay right there, we'll be right back.
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01:05:38.000Roe wants abortion case Associated Press, the former plaintiff known as Jane Roe, in a 73 U.S.
01:05:47.000Supreme Court case that legalized abortion, sought to have the case overturned in a motion filed Tuesday that asked the courts to consider new evidence that abortion hurts women.
01:05:58.000Norma McCorvey, Who joined the anti-abortion fight nearly 10 years ago, says she regrets her role in Roe v. Wade.
01:06:07.000Again, that was the alias, Roe v. Wade.
01:06:10.000Says the Supreme Court decision is no longer valid because scientific and anecdotal evidence that has come to light in the last 30 years has shown the negative effects of abortion, including increased chances of cancer, You know, if God wants you to abort, and it's a bad pregnancy, it'll happen, folks.
01:06:30.000And it's very bad for women to increase cancer, if you do it in an unnatural fashion, if you go in and kill the baby.
01:06:39.000It also causes massive emotional problems, and it creates all these damaged women who then join the New World Order cause to carry all of this out.
01:06:50.000A jubilant McCorvey said at a news conference, all flanked by about 60 women, some who sobbed and held signs that read, I regret my abortion.
01:06:58.000I feel like the weight of the world has just been lifted off my shoulders, said McCorvey, 55.
01:07:03.000And Sarah Weddington, who I just so happen to meet here in Austin, because she lives here in Austin, the abortion advocate attorney who originally represented McCorvey, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
01:07:13.000Representative from the National Organization of Women also did not immediately return a message.
01:07:20.000And we're joined by one of Norma McCorvey's lawyers, attorneys, Sharon Blakeney, and she is with the Justice Foundation that is trying to counter what's happening.
01:07:35.000And Sharon, we were talking about Bush saying that he is against Roe v. Wade, which is a good thing.
01:07:41.000He wanted to make some comments to go into the history of what happened, how Norman McCorvey was used, and what this means now in the Supreme Court having the case reopened.
01:07:54.000Well, obviously we're thrilled that the President has come out strongly voicing his opposition to Roe vs. Wade through Ari Fleischer yesterday morning in the press conference.
01:08:05.000And we feel this just confirms that this is the right thing to do.
01:08:09.000And as far as what this means, I believe, Alex, it's going to mean a dramatic history-making change in the laws of this country.
01:08:22.000Going back to some more of the history of Norman McCorvey, known as Jane Robe, this homeless woman who they basically used, and then how she got into the abortion industry, the death mills, and then her awakening to this great evil, and now how she's trying to counter this, definitely a testament to her.
01:08:42.000Can you give us the history of this for those that aren't aware of it?
01:08:48.000Well, you gave a very good summary just then, Alex.
01:08:52.000I'm not sure that I could add it to many more details.
01:08:56.000I know that her story is in her affidavit that is on our website.
01:09:02.000Obviously, she saw some very terrible things working in the abortion clinics that clearly pricked her conscience.
01:09:09.000She came to realize that abortion is a great cruelty to women, that it's not a benefit to women, it's not a good thing.
01:09:17.000And she saw herself the pain that women went through when they suffered abortions.
01:09:23.000And through her work there at the clinic, she met a Christian that led her to the Lord, and her life has been dramatically turned around, and she very much wants to see this case overturned.
01:09:34.000And we're very pleased and honored to assist her in that endeavor.
01:09:39.000Now, it was clear that the socialists and the God-haters wanted to legalize abortion.
01:09:49.000And we know that the United Nations organization known as UNESCO pushes abortion worldwide in a big way.
01:09:56.000So they wanted this and it's clear they used Norma McCorvey.
01:10:01.000Can you explain to us the legal system, how this works, how someone who has already had a case before the court can resubmit the case and give us some of the websites we can read the brief that you have filed?
01:10:15.000Our website is www.operationoutcry.org and if you click on the press packet icon there on the homepage, you will be able to read Norma's affidavit and the actual brief and motion that were filed with the Federal District Court in Dallas.
01:10:38.000Basically, the legal basis for the motion is found in Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 60.
01:10:46.000Under a Rule 60 motion, someone who is a party to a case can come back and file a motion with the court based upon changes in law or changes in facts that make it no longer just or equitable for the previous ruling of the court to have prospective application In other words, when a prior ruling of the court has become a manifest injustice or is clearly erroneous, given the changes in law and fact that have come to light since the original ruling, the court can overrule its case.
01:11:22.000And the, any idea on, or have any of the justices made comments like Scalia or Rehnquist or
01:11:32.000Ginsburg on what they're going to do with this new filing?
01:11:37.000Well, I don't know that they've made any publicly and most likely they've not.
01:11:43.000Judges are not allowed to make comment on a case that might possibly be before them.
01:11:50.000And we fully expect that this case certainly will not have a final decision in the federal district court in Dallas.
01:11:57.000Most likely it is going to be appealed by one side or the other.
01:12:01.000And the interesting thing is, at this point, the only parties at this point are our client, Norman McCorvey, and the state itself.
01:12:11.000And the state of Texas' interest, obviously, in the previous ruling was to enforce the laws of the state of Texas.
01:12:17.000The laws of the state of Texas are that abortion should be illegal.
01:12:20.000So in this case, we have the original pro-abortion forces, now anti-abortion, as the plaintiff, So a role reversal and then on the other side you have the state who was in a proper position before against the abortion.
01:12:36.000So now are we going to see, in fact that was my next question, very astute comments from you.
01:12:42.000What about Sarah Weddington and the others that are pro-death and pro-annihilation of humanity?
01:12:49.000How do you counter them or are they going to get involved or will it be now or will it be people, No.
01:12:58.000Claiming that she's being denied abortions?
01:13:47.000It was an establishment of religion case.
01:13:49.000Where the courts came back several years after a previous ruling and overturned the ruling.
01:13:57.000Just by way of comment, I did notice on Fox News that their legal analyst, the judge, and his last name is escaping me at this moment, but if you look on their website, there's a comment from their senior legal analyst saying that in the Agostini case, That the parties were able to have their case overruled because it only affected them.
01:14:21.000That is a great misstatement of the facts of that case of Agostini because in that case It affected the entire school system of the state of New York.
01:14:31.000And so, there was many, many party or persons that were affected by the ruling of the court.
01:14:38.000Well, look, I can't claim that Roe v. Wade just applies to Norma McCorvey, Jane Roe, being able to get her abortion.
01:15:03.000And basically, under the law, the ruling in Agostini, and the basis of the Rule 60 motion, we have the changes in law and the changes in fact that support the idea that prospective application of Roe is just no longer just.
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01:20:50.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:20:57.000All right, my friends, we're back live.
01:21:02.000We're talking to Sharon Blankney, attorney and counselor in law she represents.
01:21:09.000The woman known as Jane Roe from the landmark 73 Supreme Court case, Roe v. Wade.
01:21:16.000And Sharon, I was saying before we hit the last break that it's got to feel good to be involved in something that potentially could save millions and millions, hundreds of millions, they've already killed 54 million children.
01:21:31.000And the next Einstein, the next George Washington, the next Orville Wright, Somebody that could be one of our presidents, or scientists, or auto mechanics, or loving fathers, or mothers, it doesn't matter.
01:21:48.000This is incredible, and it's got to be, just, you've got to be, I mean, I know you haven't won the case, you haven't overturned this great evil yet, but it's got to really, you really are getting something done here.
01:22:01.000Is it rewarding to be involved in something like this?
01:22:04.000It's a tremendous blessing to me, Alex, on a number of different levels.
01:22:09.000Most importantly, personally, I experienced abortion when I was in high school.
01:22:16.000It was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
01:22:20.000Through the grace of God, I have the opportunity to use the horrible experience that I suffered and the education that God blessed me with.
01:22:28.000To hopefully protect other women from experiencing the same thing that I did.
01:22:33.000Well, they claim that they give you options, but when you go to these places, I've talked to the women, they just sell you on it.
01:22:42.000They don't tell you about the cancer risk, the depression, how it causes a lot of women to become infertile, all the horrible things it does.
01:22:57.000And honestly, Alex, I don't know that it could ever be.
01:23:00.000Because no matter how much information they would give you until you actually experienced it, I don't think you really know.
01:23:08.000And that's why, you know, if you look at the situation with physician-assisted suicide, this Supreme Court, the same one that the justices we have right now, Most recently ruled that because a person in a position that might consider physician-assisted suicide is under such extreme duress, they could never make an informed decision.
01:23:31.000That's why physician-assisted suicide was ruled illegal.
01:23:36.000Well, it's also turned out that Wesley Smith's work in the Wall Street Journal that most people that have been killed by doctors weren't even terminally ill or mentally ill.
01:23:47.000And that if they were denied their right to the physician-assisted suicide, once their pain was relieved or they received some emotional comfort, they were glad that it didn't happen.
01:23:59.000And that's exactly what we see happens with women that are are that think they want abortion but then the situation
01:24:06.000passes and they're so grateful that it didn't occur. Sharon, Blakeney, what are
01:24:11.000the forces of death and that's what they are, the culture of death, what are
01:24:16.000they going to do to try to counter this?
01:24:19.000I mean I know you've got to have ideas of what their attack plan is going to be
01:24:23.000Also, the Supreme Court, the makeup of it, are they going to give us some whitewash ruling that doesn't really get rid of abortion?
01:24:30.000What do your analytical skills and skills of law and understanding and research show you?
01:24:56.000But frankly, Alex, I really feel that this is going to be a successful effort.
01:25:04.000We have the law and the facts and God on our side.
01:25:08.000And that's why they've been desperately trying to stop people peaceably protesting, showing people pictures of what abortion really looks like, because they know if people knew the truth, Americans would be against this.
01:25:20.000Now, even Dick Gephardt voted to ban partial birth abortion.
01:25:24.000Where is the partial birth abortion ban right now?
01:25:30.000Now I haven't, I'll be honest with you, I've been a little busy with our case and I haven't looked intently at that issue in the last week or so but my understanding was it had passed both the House and the Senate but different versions of it and so it had to go to committee for them to reconcile the differences and once that occurs then the bill should be presented to the President for signature which he has indicated he would sign.
01:27:33.000Unless Congress regains a modicum of sanity, the United States of America is about to rejoin an organization dedicated to the destruction of the last vestiges of Christian civilization.
01:27:45.000For reasons inexplicable to most sensible Americans, September 2002, an otherwise sensible President George W. Bush told the United Nations that the U.S.
01:27:54.000will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, a wild-eyed bunch of President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and the U.S.
01:28:05.000had no business being a member of such a group.
01:28:07.000Most Americans are blissfully ignorant of the insidious nature of the crowd of one world Paganistic pseudo-communists, and real ones in some cases, who are bound and determined to create a new world order, establish a new world religion of tree worshippers that supplants and scorns Christianity, promotes abortion worldwide, seeks to capture control of schools and school children, and is in the process of transforming national and privately owned property in the U.S.
01:28:55.000And now Bush has actually increased funding in the billions for other big abortion programs.
01:29:00.000Now obviously, it's up to you to put pressure on the White House to back out of this.
01:29:06.000We wouldn't be having abortion in deep trouble in this country if it wasn't for people taking action.
01:29:11.000If it wasn't for people getting arrested, protesting abortion clinics, and counseling young women and men, and trying to teach abstinence, and trying to save our society from the MTV devil culture.
01:29:27.000I know we've got a lot of callers, Roger, Bob, Debbie, and others that are holding that want to talk to our guest, who I really appreciate joining us, Sharon Blakeney.
01:29:38.000She is one of the lawyers representing Jane Roe.
01:29:41.000That was, of course, the alias for Norman McCorvey in the famous case Roe v. Wade from 1973.
01:29:48.000Sharon, any other points you want to make, websites you want to give out, points you need to make before we go to these calls?
01:29:54.000Let me suggest one thing for your listeners, Alex.
01:29:58.000As you know, the makeup of the Supreme Court is of incredible importance, especially given this case that we have filed, which may and most likely will be heard there sometime in the near future.
01:30:11.000We're facing some possible vacancies on that court.
01:30:14.000President Bush, in his campaign, had said that he would promote a culture of life.
01:30:19.000There is a project called Project Rosebud.
01:30:21.000If you go to www.F2A, that stands for Faith to Action, F2A.org, you can be a part of Project Rosebud, which is sending roses to President Bush for $10.
01:30:36.000You can send a rose to President Bush with a message supporting his decision to promote a culture of life and to to appoint justices that will rule in accordance with that.
01:30:48.000Boy, I bet the White House is just full of roses then.
01:30:52.000That's right. There's been thousands that have been sent and we want to send more, Alex.
01:30:55.000We want to make sure that if there's a vacancy on this court before this case gets heard,
01:30:59.000that there's going to be a pro-life justice there.
01:32:00.000And obviously, the Justice Foundation requests your prayer, your financial support, and affidavits.
01:32:06.000If there are post-abortive women that have not provided affidavits to us yet, they can go online, fill out their affidavit, have it notarized, and send it in, and we probably will have an evidentiary hearing, and we'll still have some time to File more affidavits with the court if they get them in quickly.
01:32:23.000Alright, so those websites for women that may want to do that?
01:32:26.000That's correct, and that's operationoutcry.org.
01:32:29.000Okay, let's go ahead and take some calls.
01:32:31.000Roger in Pennsylvania, you're on the air, go ahead.
01:32:34.000Yes, thanks folks, and if you please Alex, I have three or four comments slash questions if you keep coming back to me.
01:32:40.000Now it's my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that even some otherwise good Christian media analysts As suggested, that Roe or any subsequent decision has ruled regarding the personhood of that unborn child.
01:32:57.000And isn't it true, in fact, that that was studiously avoided in every decision?
01:33:05.000Roger, they have, the Supreme Court has ruled that a fetus is not a person.
01:33:11.000A fetus obviously is an unborn child, and if you look in Black's Law Dictionary, that's what the definition of fetus is, although the other side doesn't want you to know that.
01:33:19.000So it's two word games, like what does the word is, is mean?
01:33:55.000There's probably a short-form name for that constitutional provision, some doctrine name, where the Congress can say, by the way, we have determined that the unborn child is a person and entitled to all the rights and protections under the Constitution, etc., etc., and the Supreme Court cannot rule to the contrary.
01:34:40.000You're saying that the Ninth and Fifth and Fourth Amendment would cover this?
01:34:45.000I should have the article section in the Constitution, but it does say that Congress can Keep the Supreme Court hands off on a particular matter.
01:34:57.000Now, even some people that support the right to abortion, which was, of course, invented out of whole cloth in Roe, there's even some liberal atheists, etc., that while they want that right, they see that as a horrible decision in itself.
01:35:13.000They would want to see it through some other avenue.
01:35:34.000And the point you're making we made in the last segment, and you made some good points, Roger, we've got to be fair to the listeners.
01:35:41.000We only have a few minutes left with our guests, about nine minutes left.
01:35:44.000We already said this, that they're gonna try, and she talked about the analyst on Fox, our guest did, the lawyer representing Norma McCorvey, going back to the Supreme Court, that they're already trying to say, okay, well this will just be in the individual case of Jane Roe, Norma McCorvey, of the true name.
01:36:03.000The point is, it was used as a precedent to legalize abortion nationwide, they cannot say that, and if they try it, it's a total fraud.
01:36:09.000Any other comments on that subject, Sharon?
01:36:13.000Okay, so it's clear, the precedent's clear, it's been used in the state governments, in the state rulings and other federal rulings, so there is no debate on this, though they'll probably try.
01:36:49.000That's right, and this is practiced by not only the mother, but by the butchers of science that perform these operations.
01:36:57.000Well, they're the real parties, because they're doctors, they have a Hippocratic Oath, they know what they're doing, they pull those little arms and legs out of there.
01:37:05.000Well, wouldn't it be more correct to call it infancide than abortion, because abortion pertains to a whole other subject.
01:37:12.000Yeah, we get back to semantical terms.
01:37:14.000The enemy is good at manipulating terms.
01:37:17.000Any comments to what Bob is saying, Sharon?
01:37:21.000Well, I don't really care what they call it.
01:37:24.000I just don't want it to be legal anymore.
01:38:08.000And then the second question is off topic, but I wanted to ask Alex, I have a, my mother's a very intelligent, well-read person that knows a lot of history, and I've been sharing a lot of information with her, your videos and that sort of thing.
01:38:25.000And she keeps, she always asks me over and over, what, why do all these globalists and all these secret societies and all these powerful people, why do they get so caught up?
01:38:39.000And doing what they're doing, and she keeps saying they're not going to live forever.
01:38:47.000Well, I mean, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
01:38:51.000The nature of power is that people that get into positions of power want more power, and it attracts sociopathic, and in many cases not just sociopathic, but sadistic individuals.
01:39:54.000So, I mean, that tells me that Satan himself is the one that's actually, you know, the genius behind it all.
01:40:02.000Well, of course, the devil's biggest trick was convincing us he didn't exist, and now you have moral relativism, and people, you know, don't even know what good and evil is.
01:41:04.000I think it was a well-orchestrated plan.
01:41:08.000As Alex pointed out in the beginning of his show, just about the destruction of the family, according to a 1949 document that he was talking about.
01:41:18.000Yeah, this is UNESCO, and they said That a 10-part series for teachers published by UNESCO in 1949 under the title Towards World Understanding asserted that one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of world society, but government schools must stamp out love of country and family must be viewed as the enemy.
01:41:41.000I think semantics can play an important part in all of this.
01:41:46.000I'm sure that the opposite side will be using semantics also.
01:41:53.000One gentleman kind of stole my thunder a little bit.
01:41:56.000According to the dictionary that I had, abortion was a natural miscarriage.
01:42:03.000And it's actually aborticide, which is a doctor-assisted or assisted type of abortion.
01:42:09.000And if you take aborticide and homicide, you might want to call it semantics, but it's still the same thing.
01:42:15.000So it is a form of homicide and genocide.
01:42:18.000So it's not... semantics can be used, and you could say, well... It's killing our young... That's right!
01:42:23.000...in the tender womb, and they're totally... I mean, it's the equivalent of grabbing a kid off the street and going and cutting their arms and legs off.
01:42:37.000So, how long until we find out what the Supreme Court's going to do with this?
01:42:41.000You say it's going into the appellate court in Dallas.
01:42:43.000How long until it gets up to the Supreme Court?
01:42:46.000Well, it's actually not in the appellate court, Alex.
01:42:49.000We filed this in the Federal District Court in Dallas, Texas, which was the court where the original filing was made.
01:42:57.000Now, this may be a little more detailed than you were looking for, but basically the court there has to make a decision whether they're going to have one judge hear the case or if they're going to convene a three-judge panel.
01:43:10.000There was a statute in place at the time of the original ruling that called for a three-judge panel in any case declaring or challenging the constitutionality of a state statute.
01:43:21.000And so they could now rule then that the abortion is illegal and then what area of the country would then have a ban on abortion?
01:43:31.000And then you'd have an appeal go to the Supreme Court.
01:43:35.000Well, if the court chooses to convene a three-judge panel and that panel makes a ruling either for or against, there is a direct appeal to the United States Supreme Court for any ruling from a three-judge court.
01:43:50.000Now, if the Federal District Court chooses to only have one judge hear the case, Then, after that ruling, the case would then be appealed to an appellate court, and then to the Supreme Court, if necessary.
01:44:13.000The federal district court here has a lot of decisions to make, and sometimes these things just move very, very swiftly, and other times they get bogged down.
01:44:22.000Well, how do we lobby to make sure it moves quickly?
01:44:27.000Well, I suppose... It's a lot more important than can a school teacher wear a dress.
01:44:33.000You know, they've got cases like that, I know, in the courts.
01:44:38.000I don't anticipate they're going to sit on it too long because the longer they sit on it, the more support is going to swell on both sides and we could be in the middle of a More, even more of a firestorm than we're in.
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01:48:53.000It dwarfs the 54 million in this country.
01:48:57.000And I know a lot of you have abortions out there, and so you've tried to rationalize what's happening, but you've got this pain in your heart, in your stomach, in your mind.
01:49:05.000Why don't you repent and ask God for forgiveness, and beg the baby for forgiveness, and you'll be forgiven.
01:49:36.000They're banning political protest of almost any type.
01:49:38.000The feds carry out the abortion clinic bombings from all the evidence we have, and then blame it on Christians and try to demonize those that are against abortion.
01:49:47.000The Feds are going to do this with biometrics, I have no doubt.
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01:50:11.000You know, even people on the left are waking up and coming out against abortion because they've had abortions, they know it's wrong, the health risk, all of it.
01:50:26.000And all this life of the mother stuff.
01:50:28.000I mean, if a surgery needs to take place, and a baby, you know, was lodged, killing the mother, and in the surgery they remove the human being, the baby and the mother dies, and the baby dies, or the mother lives, the baby dies, then that's not an abortion.
01:50:45.000So, you know, before the mother was in risk, they'd go in and do a surgery, it wasn't called an abortion, it was a surgery and the baby died.
01:50:57.000And Trent Lott was going to pass the same version as the House last year, and Bush got mad and told him to not bring up that ban on partial birth abortions.
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01:54:22.000We had Well, Jane Roe's attorney on, her real name is Norma McCorvey, she's now a born-again Christian, worked in the death mills, is against what happened, and says it harms women and children.
01:54:35.000We had her lawyer, Sharon Blakeney, on to talk about Roe v. Wade and how it's now in the federal courts, because she's allowed to petition on the same case and try to get that overturned.
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01:55:01.000So that's coming up, and you watch Bush play some little tricks here and drop the ball on purpose, because he's, well, with one hand, saving a few children, maybe, with the other hand, committing millions to death camps.
01:55:24.000The left is starting to find out about election fraud.
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01:56:43.000And, uh, what's developing around the world and some of the news I never got to yesterday, like Orrin Hatch wanting the government to have backdoors to hack into all your computers in the name of stopping illegal downloads of music and software.
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02:01:21.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:01:27.000We've had award-winning BBC News and I investigative journalist Greg Pallis, who's an American, on four or five times and he's dropped just huge bombshells on us.
02:01:40.000Declassified IMF World Bank documents where they say they want to implode our economies, take our pension funds, literally set up dictatorships.
02:01:52.000And they've even come out and admitted that Greg Powell has accurate documents, but said, well, you know, he's just putting a bad light on them.
02:02:00.000He's also exposed election fraud by Republicans and Democrats in Choice Point, Uh, working for President Bush in the election in Florida, then getting all these big government contracts, running a bunch of other scams, and it really is important information.
02:02:17.000In fact, I've seen the left wing here in Austin, the phony left wing, just like we have the phony neocon conservatives, they're all really on the same team, attack Greg Palast.
02:02:27.000In the Chronicle, in Austin last week, they attacked myself and Greg Palast.
02:02:32.000Didn't say Greg was wrong about anything, just said, oh well, he's wrong because he criticizes Democrats too.
02:02:40.000It's this mindless left-right stuff that keeps the corrupt, globalist New World Order agenda moving forward.
02:02:46.000And one of Greg Palast's associates involved in the fight against this globalization is Michelle Schott.
02:02:57.000And she, of course, is a best-selling British pop phenomenon and swing, blues, bluegrass, and a bunch of other music.
02:03:08.000And she's been an activist involved in just a whole bunch of different areas.
02:03:14.000And she's now involved with a group that is introducing commercials with a conscience, airing now on CNN, A&E, and VH1.
02:03:24.000And their press release says, you probably heard about this in the news, as the media continues to be owned and operated by a small, biased minority, it's not free market either, I would add.
02:03:34.000The need increases for a forum that can expose alternative truths and opinions.
02:03:39.000So, we're talking about alternative information and to tell us about it is Michelle Schacht.
02:03:46.000And I appreciate you coming on the show, Michelle.
02:03:48.000It's my pleasure, Alex, and being a A UT alumni there in Austin, it's good to kind of, by phone, be back at home.
02:04:27.000Well, you've got to play fire with fire, man.
02:04:29.000And if the media is being bought and sold by elites, well, the next best thing, I guess, citizens can do is organize and collaborate and come together.
02:04:39.000And we've put together a commercial, and we're just outraged.
02:04:44.000We are outraged by the encroachments on Not just our civil liberties, but our way of life as Americans.
02:04:52.000Well, Ashcroft, two and a half months ago before Congress, the House and Senate, in two separate committees, read off a page and told the Congress, there is no Patriot Act 2.
02:05:07.000Then on Monday, the Justice Department released a brief and said, yes, We will use it for all crimes, against everyone, no more Bill of Rights, secret arrest, everything.
02:05:19.000Now we already knew that was in the bills because we've read it, but to have them lying and then admitting they have a Patriot Act too, and now saying, okay, it is against citizens, does that concern you?
02:05:31.000It concerns me, and it concerns every American who cherishes our way of life.
02:05:36.000When we sing that song, Our Sweet Land of Liberty, we're not saying empty words, we really mean it.
02:05:42.000And I'll tell you what, this Help Americans Vote Act is the one that's got my dander up.
02:05:47.000Because they're now proposing that we adopt the Florida model for our voting system, and that really is what's lit the fire under the commercials with the conscience.
02:05:57.000We're saying this is a tyranny, and in the Constitution we are, by citizens, we are by rights supposed to oppose any tyranny which breaches these shores, and we've got one sitting in the White House.
02:06:12.000Well, that's certainly in the Declaration of Independence.
02:06:17.000Chuckie Schumer and George Bush collaborated together to fund the federalization of elections, to put in the touchscreen systems.
02:06:26.000Lawsuits have been filed by Republicans and Democrats saying there's no record of a vote, it's totally fraud driven, with modems hooked into the federal government.
02:06:36.000It's just a black box, and they tell you who wins.
02:06:39.000So, out of the crisis in Florida, which they created, now they're going to, in the name of a solution, take over the whole system.
02:06:50.000And, on top of that, it's handled by partisan elected officials who, you can see from the Florida model, have nothing but their own interests in mind when they keep this system in place, where they scrub voter lists.
02:07:05.000You know, Kathleen Harris, she deliberately squashed the previous service that was scrubbing the lists when they noticed that there were some discrepancies that one person who'd been a felon in some other state would take out ten voters in Florida because they had similar names, not even the same names.
02:07:28.000Well, now we've caught this government front choice point involved buying the names of Latin Americans for elections.
02:07:38.000And of course, choice points now have been given contracts by Bush, and Harris has been given a lot of perks for doing this.
02:07:45.000Now understand, I wasn't for Al Gore or George Bush.
02:07:48.000They're two sides of the same coin, but we do see the corruption of other new services
02:07:54.000and we do see that it's nothing but a political system our entire electoral process is now in peril
02:08:00.000uh... what would you what is your organization calling for
02:08:04.000Getting rid of the touchscreen systems or getting federal control out of the states?
02:08:09.000Essentially, we're calling for citizens to take action, come together, and standupnow.org, if you go on that website, you will see that we're proposing all manner of citizens initiatives, but obviously elected officials have been bought and sold by corporations.
02:08:26.000They're running amok with our government.
02:08:28.000And this is a democracy by the people, for the people, and of the people, and commercials with the conscience is just one part of a strategy to organize and coalesce the citizens who this country really belongs to, not the elite who try to buy and sell the democracy.
02:08:45.000Sure, we're talking to Michelle Schacht, a best-selling pop phenomenon, and she's been a social activist for a long time.
02:08:53.000I would tell you, though, Michelle, that the difference between a democracy In a constitutional republic, in a pure democracy, you would have 51% of the people saying black people can be slaves again and they become slaves.
02:09:08.000In our republic, you were talking about the Declaration, Bill of Rights, Constitution.
02:09:14.000Under that, everyone's rights are protected and certainly our republic is being dismantled.
02:09:22.000But Alex, I don't have time to split hairs over that.
02:09:26.000The fact that we go along with a decision by the Supreme Court, because they are supposed to represent fairness and balance, means that we allow for four years this guy to run amok in the White House.
02:09:39.000But come the next election, I don't even buy into the whole electoral system.
02:09:44.000You know, why do we need to have a representative determining what the popular vote should be distilled down to?
02:10:00.000You will get a dictatorship, take the 17th Amendment, that took our senators from the states and made them creatures of the federal government and destroyed local control.
02:10:53.000So, what specifically is your organization calling for?
02:10:58.000Just trying to raise the awareness about this?
02:11:01.000Well, there's been so much propaganda, hype, brainwash, manipulation in the media that we're fighting fire with fire.
02:11:09.000Commercials with a Conscience is bought and paid for and produced by citizens Dealing directly with these citizens' initiatives, voter fraud, government corruption.
02:11:23.000We'll have a whole list of issues that we can address, but the way we're going about it is, as I say, fighting fire with fire.
02:11:30.000We're buying media time, just like the corporate elites do, and so we're calling on citizens Not only to help us with their financial contributions, but to get involved, make connections, citizen to citizen, to start a grassroots revolution, a fundamental movement for social change in this country.
02:11:55.000Somebody's got to be brought to justice, because if you don't bring criminals to justice, the corruption just gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's a race straight to the bottom.
02:12:07.000I mean, look, George Bush blocked Dan Burton's committee from investigating Clinton pardoning convicted cocaine dealers and money launderers, and now the Democrats are protecting Bush.
02:12:16.000They're not contesting what happened with that election.
02:12:19.000Do you guys understand that at the committee, chairman, and above level, it doesn't matter if they're Republicans or Democrats?
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02:17:52.000It is massive corruption that wants it all and wants it now.
02:17:56.000And they are setting up a police state.
02:17:58.000And I tell you, Michelle, that was exciting what you said about The point about losing our liberties, our freedoms, is that you guys are involved in exposing the Patriot Act and some of the things they're doing.
02:18:11.000We're trusting that citizens are reading, getting their information from sites such as gregpalast.com, that they're getting their information from programs like yours, that they're connecting the dots themselves.
02:18:26.000All we're trying to do is get them to come together And to start creating a foment, a motion, a movement that, in our particular case, standupnow.org encourages people to fight fire with fire with regard to media.
02:18:44.000That it's bought and sold, and your average citizen would look at the media and think, oh, I could never afford commercial airtime on VH1 or, you know, CNN or whatever.
02:18:56.000One person can't, but a whole bunch of us together can.
02:19:00.000We're assuming that the issues that we address will be obvious to everyone.
02:19:04.000By the time we get around to making a commercial like the one we did for Commercials with a Conscience, it's a general call to arms to say, enough is enough.
02:19:14.000You're a tyrant and we're calling you bluff.
02:19:18.000Well, the evidence is clear that the administration Is the front for the military-industrial complex that carried out September 11th.
02:19:27.000Michelle, were you aware of that information?
02:19:29.000Yeah, and you know where I got it from?
02:19:30.000One of my favorite, favorite books of all time.
02:20:34.000And that was, remember, one of the threats that the terrorists made was that they could overtake the United States because we were an open society.
02:21:38.000Commercials with the Conscience is the result.
02:21:40.000You'll see the commercials broadcast, but if you go to standupnow.org, you will kind of see the infrastructure, how people are getting involved, and who's basically put their names on the line.
02:21:52.000Because now, you know, these anti-terrorist organizations could go and find our names and say, Aha!
02:21:58.000That would be your worst nightmare, right?
02:22:00.000By taking action Well, they're not going to get away with that because we outnumber them and they are the terrorists.
02:22:11.000They carried out the terror attacks and we're going to expose that.
02:22:14.000You see, they don't care if we complain about Patriot Act 1 or 2 or any of this because they're going to carry out more terror and say, see, we told you so.
02:22:22.000If we don't explain who carried out the terror and who stands to gain from this, they're going to continue to carry the terror out and pose as our saviors.
02:22:29.000Were you aware of the Project for a New American Century, PNAC?
02:22:34.000Well, this was a group that Bush formed, and they said, we need terrorist attacks in America to get people behind a global empire, imperial mobilization.
02:22:46.000Well, I really appreciate you joining us and taking time out from your career to defend this republic from enemies, foreign and domestic.
02:22:54.000And Michelle Schacht, Godspeed, and thanks for joining us.
02:23:46.000Up went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.
02:23:51.000And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire.
02:23:55.000Yeah, it's painful to know the truth, but it's a lot more painful to ignore it
02:23:58.000and to keep stumbling headlong over the cliff like a fool.
02:24:03.000And yes, truth is stranger than fiction.
02:24:06.000Yes, governments are ruthless and corrupt and must be resisted, must be exposed, especially this illegitimate, enemy-combatant, terrorist government overthrowing America and replacing it with a high-tech slavery.
02:24:20.000We're about to go to Ron in Oklahoma and others that are patiently holding.
02:24:23.000If you'd like to get involved on air in the last 26 and a half minutes of this worldwide broadcast, the toll-free number to do so is 800-259-9231.
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02:29:32.000I was on my cell phone, didn't know whether you could hear me or not.
02:29:34.000I've got a editorial here from the Daily Oklahoman about opposing the Patriot Act, but my thought is, one reason The city doesn't want to go along with this.
02:29:45.000They don't want to rock the boat for federal money and tourist dollars.
02:29:50.000They've got the bombing memorial here now, and they're trying to build a tourist economy on the bombing memorial.
02:29:59.000And then they've got the Center for Terrorism here, which brings in federal money every year and Tinker Air Force Base.
02:30:09.000Editorial, short editorial from the Daily Oklahoma real quick.
02:30:11.000Well let me just tell folks that don't know, they proposed a city law to reaffirm the Bill of Rights and Constitution and the city council voted down the one member and said we don't have a constitution here and that's a federal matter so a simple resolution saying we support liberty and freedom what our veterans fought and died for The City Council said, well, we don't care about the veterans.
02:30:37.000Okay, well, we have a Republican mayor, Republican newspaper, and some Republican council members.
02:30:44.000But anyway, it says, opposing the Patriot Act.
02:30:48.000Understandably, the Oklahoma City Council has decided to decline to weigh in on the worth of the so-called Patriot Act.
02:30:56.000It's a complex and controversial law, born out of the September 11, 2001 attack.
02:31:02.000But one that doesn't lend itself to lengthy debate in municipal government circles.
02:31:08.000Still, the issue is one worthy of the Court of Public Opinion.
02:31:12.000The Act, passed by Congress and signed by President Bush, goes to the heart of individual civil liberties in this country that generations of Americans have fought and died for.
02:31:23.000We've been generally supportive of Bush's war on terrorism, but have wondered if the Patriot Act goes too far By expanding governmental power to eavesdrop and give access to financial and computer records.
02:31:35.000We disagree with the recent move by some members of Congress who would like to make the law a permanent one.
02:31:41.000Lawmakers should be required to debate its extension or circumstances in waging such shadowy wars often change quickly.
02:31:51.000Maybe the proposal by City Councilman Brent Reinhart to force the city to oppose the Patriot Act While deferred indefinitely, will serve a wider purpose by calling attention to an issue that needs the public scrutiny and skepticism.
02:32:08.000Also, our local Channel 5 ABC affiliate conducted a viewer's poll the night the council voted on the resolution.
02:32:21.000At 6 o'clock, their poll was running 4-1 against the Patriot Act.
02:32:27.000Well, I would ask you, sir, to send me that information.
02:32:31.000I know that I've lobbied on Oklahoma City radio stations against the Patriot Act.
02:32:36.000I know conservatives are now learning what's in it, Ron, and I want to encourage you to keep up your work fighting the Patriot Act.
02:32:45.000And I'd like you to send me, you can get a tape of that or a news article about that, the poll running 4-1 against the Patriot Act.
02:32:52.000But even if it was running 100-1 for it, The Bill of Rights says that if it violates the Bill of Rights and Constitution, it is null and void.
02:33:01.000And to please send me that editorial or a hyperlink to it, I'd like to post it on InfoWars.com.
02:33:08.000For those that don't know, two states have passed laws reaffirming the Bill of Rights, decrying the Patriot Act as un-American and not stopping terrorism, and over 400 cities and towns have done the same.
02:33:23.000People are responding in defense of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
02:33:27.000Ron, did you hear me yesterday and the day before read the Washington Times with the official brief of the Justice Department where they say the Patriot Act 2 is real and Patriot Act 1 will be used for all crime against all citizens.
02:33:53.000I would like to ask your listeners to email the Daily Oklahoman and their CBS TV affiliate channel line at newsok.com and ask them to support the resolution against the Patriot Act.
02:34:09.000You must have many, many thousands of listeners, Alex, so maybe we can put their weight on our side.
02:35:07.000Now, how did I know a year and a half ago that Patriot Act I affected citizens for all crimes, took juries, Got rid of your right to face your accusers, secret arrest, but you notice that Daily Oklahoma article and every other article I've seen says, oh, more surveillance, more powers to stop terrorists.
02:35:27.000They never mention it's about the FBI, local police breaking in your house without a warrant, taking whatever they want, planning whatever they want.
02:35:37.000They never mention that Section 802 says the new definition of terrorism is any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.
02:35:47.000Well now the new Patriot Act says that Section 802 isn't broad enough.
02:35:51.000They want an unlimited definition to secretly arrest you and secretly execute you.
02:35:57.000It actually says it if you do not even knowingly commit a crime or even if you don't commit a crime.
02:36:04.000Now let me tell you, that's worse than the Soviet Union.
02:36:08.000So go ahead globalists, keep lying, keep spinning, you're not going to get away with it.
02:36:13.000So this is out of the Washington Times, Patriot Act of 2001 casts wide net, long sought details have begun to emerge from the Justice Department on how anti-terror provisions of the USA Patriot Act have applied in non-terror investigations, just as battle lines are being drawn on proposed new powers in Patriot Act 2.
02:36:33.000Overall, the policy now allows evidence to be used for prosecuting common criminals, even when obtained under extraordinary anti-terrorism powers and information sharing between intelligence agencies and the FBI.
02:37:05.000Well they've been operating for decades with the smack and the coke!
02:37:10.000And now these criminals are going to be on our streets.
02:37:14.000Now this is the Justice Department's quote here.
02:37:16.000We would use whatever tools are available to us within reason to prosecute violators of any law.
02:37:22.000We would use whatever tools are available to us to prosecute violators of any law.
02:37:28.000Justice Department spokesman Brian Sierra said in the wake of his department's massive report to Congress describing how the USA Patriot Act is being implemented.
02:38:38.000I'm actually a student at the University of Texas at Austin, and I listen to your show every now and then, and I'm really intrigued by a lot of things you say, but I was just curious, you know, as a student, what sort of sources can I look to to educate myself Because, you know, I listen to the politicians on the news, and we're just supposed to take everything they say.
02:38:54.000But then I listen to you, and I can't just, you know, take everything you say.
02:38:57.000I want to go ahead and educate myself.
02:38:58.000So I was just curious, like I said, if you could name any sources that have spooked myself.
02:39:02.000Well, when I say Section 802 is the new definition of terrorism, you go to thomas.loc.gov.
02:39:55.000When I say that Oklahoma City is proposing a law to get rid of the Patriot Act, because I read it in their newspaper last week, they report the truth on most issues.
02:40:20.000So when Bush says we've got a new law to make your pension funds safe, I go to the proposed changes and it says that you will no longer own your pension funds and they can take them from you.
02:40:34.000And so I come on the air and say, well this takes your pension funds.
02:40:37.000When a federal court rules that veterans above 65 no longer get health care, Uh, and uh, I go to the AP that tends to tell the truth, it's unfiltered, and I read the actual AP article where it says veterans won't get any more health care, and then I see it in the Austin American-Statesman a week later with a local spin saying, oh, there's been some changes that might make it a little tougher to get health care, but oh, this had to happen.
02:41:05.000Okay, so when I read the statesman and it says, Perry signed a new bill, wherever you take Medicare or Medicaid, they'll take your house, but he says it's good.
02:41:14.000I go to the Texas Legislature's website, I read the bill, and it basically says you won't have any private property ownership if you ever take a government handout.
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02:44:48.000We're about to go to Hankin, Texas and others and a few final news stories.
02:44:52.000But to Answer the UT college students' important question.
02:45:58.000So this is the information we're covering here on this broadcast.
02:46:02.000We look at the corruption of governments in the past, how they run scams, and we look at what's happening today.
02:46:07.000I mean, take a story like a trillion bucks, it's 1.2 trillion actually, missing from the Pentagon over the last eight years.
02:46:15.000There's no investigation, there's been a handful of news articles about The Defense Department admitting over a trillion's missing, we go read those articles.
02:46:24.000Why isn't it top story that it's now admitted that those so-called bio-weapons trucks, trailers in Iraq, were for pumping up dirigibles, blimps, and the government knew that!
02:46:36.000They have the purchase order from the Russians in the 80's.
02:46:39.000They claim they were bio-weapons labs.
02:46:43.000Let's go ahead and talk to Hank in Texas is up next.
02:48:42.000all right sir i really appreciate your call god bless you call man there's a lot of news we got to some we didn't
02:48:48.000have a chance to get to I hope you will tell your friends and family about the show, the great guests we have, the great callers, the important news we cover by analysis as well.