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00:00:30.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another live edition of the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:47.000 Hard to believe that it is already Thursday, the 19th of June, 2003.

00:00:57.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:59.000 We have the lawyer for the original plaintiff in Roe v. Wade.

00:01:08.000 Coming on the show in the second hour to talk about, well, attempting to force the Neocons and the Neocon Supreme Court to reverse Roe v. Wade and stop any further killing. 0.96

00:01:24.000 There's already been 54 million children murdered in this country.

00:01:31.000 And you can rationalize all day long You can try to make excuses all you want, but it is murder, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll be discussing that in this historical case.

00:01:43.000 In the third hour, I've got one of these rock stars coming on who is against the war and the lies and the propaganda of the New World Order.

00:01:52.000 He's associated with Greg Palast.

00:01:55.000 And their television blitz, Ads with a Conscience, we'll be discussing that in the third hour.

00:02:02.000 A bunch of news from around the world, but I also want to cover a couple stories I never got to yesterday.

00:02:09.000 One of them is Zacharias Moussaoui.

00:02:12.000 Saying that the government had prior knowledge of the attacks when he wants to address Congress.

00:02:16.000 Also, Senator Orrin Hatch takes aim at illegal downloading.

00:02:19.000 Wants the government to have a backdoor into your computer to have a hack system running.

00:02:24.000 Total violation of every canon of a free society.

00:02:26.000 Had a Newsmax story I never got to that has quotes out of UNESCO's founding documents that Bush has just signed on to.

00:02:36.000 The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization Where they say the family must be destroyed.

00:02:44.000 Now I have the Calhoun Reader, the desk reference for those going to be social workers at the University of Texas, and they have this at many other universities.

00:02:53.000 It's the standard textbook, the Calhoun Reader, where they say the family must be destroyed, that the family belongs to the age of barbarism, that their job is to destroy the family.

00:03:07.000 Now how could any of you have your kids in the public school and make excuses when they admit it's about destroying the family?

00:03:14.000 And how could Bush sign back onto an organization that Ronald Reagan got us out of?

00:03:20.000 When Charlotte Isserby was the head of policy at the Department of Education.

00:03:26.000 And of course they've implemented all the plans in it, but now they're signing back onto it to give it more funding.

00:03:33.000 So that's coming up early in this hour as well.

00:03:37.000 Also, Bush threatens Iran with actions to halt its nuclear ambitions.

00:03:44.000 Think about this.

00:03:45.000 Now, they said, the neocons said they were going to invade Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea, and now they're going to do it preemptively.

00:03:51.000 World War III, folks.

00:03:53.000 We'll get into that.

00:03:54.000 North Korea makes explicit threat.

00:03:56.000 Regime warns of immediate physical retaliation.

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00:04:00.000 blockade, Howell appears to shrug off the statement.

00:04:07.000 Also, Minister warns of Euro Vote Civil War.

00:04:11.000 Eighth night of unrest in Iran, encouraged by the U.S. 1.00

00:04:15.000 Not by the U.S., by the bankers.

00:04:18.000 And we will continue also with the covert war in Iran.

00:04:23.000 And we'll get into the U.S.

00:04:27.000 options for North Korea run from bad to worse.

00:04:30.000 And we'll get into panel probing September 11th, request of documents, and of course what Zachariah Smith-Sally said, DARPA has a new brain interface system they want to create for the military with the microchips.

00:04:41.000 This is from Defense Science Office.

00:04:44.000 It's all coming up, big show today also, Camp X-Ray Father, Anger at Execution Plan, Haxel Band for 18 and under in the UK and Ireland.

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00:08:20.000 Alright my friends, it's Thursday the 19th of June 2003.

00:08:29.000 I'm Steve.

00:08:30.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:08:32.000 The websites are PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com and InfoWars.net.

00:08:40.000 And we do have the lawyer.

00:08:43.000 Who is representing the woman who was the plaintiff in Roe v. Wade.

00:08:48.000 She's now a Christian and is against abortion and has a right to have the case reopened by the Supreme Court.

00:08:56.000 That's in the second hour.

00:08:58.000 In the third hour, we'll be talking about what some of the left-wingers are doing.

00:09:04.000 Starting to wake up to the New World Order and the real paradigm. 0.67

00:09:09.000 So you'll want to stay with us for that.

00:09:11.000 Of course, we'll have open phones throughout the broadcast.

00:09:13.000 The toll-free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.

00:09:17.000 I want to get into UNESCO saying their job is to destroy the family, the UN group that Bush just signed back onto.

00:09:27.000 I also want to get into what Orrin Hatch wants to do with your computers, having the government having a backdoor into all your computers to destroy them whenever and however they wish.

00:09:40.000 Absolute violation of the Fourth Amendment, and the government even says it will violate its own hacking laws, but they're going to go ahead and change those, and Hatch just isn't talking about this.

00:09:50.000 A bill's been proposed, I saw it last year, to do this.

00:09:54.000 And really the big news is that the neocons, PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, the think tank founded in 96 by Bush's cabinet, in waiting Said they want World War III, global domination, global empire.

00:10:10.000 They used these terms.

00:10:11.000 A new world order.

00:10:13.000 They called it imperial mobilization in another paper.

00:10:17.000 They said they needed terrorist attacks.

00:10:19.000 Large attacks on the scale of Pearl Harbor or larger to get us behind these endless wars.

00:10:26.000 Well, now the globalists have gone into Iraq publicly to get the oil and to have Iraq as a military base to launch into Syria and Iran, and now they're doing it!

00:10:34.000 Now they're saying they're going to do it.

00:10:38.000 And now they're trying to push the psychopaths in North Korea into striking us first so they have a pretext to get us into World War III.

00:10:45.000 And people will, in a primitive fashion, will shift into mindless groupthink, will worship the government during this World War III period, and will willingly give up their liberties en masse, unless we expose who the terrorists are, and how they've set this thing up, and point people their own public documents where the globalists planned all of this.

00:11:06.000 They just know that most of you don't read white papers by prestigious think tanks.

00:11:11.000 But more Americans are beginning to learn of PNAC.

00:11:15.000 I've been on liberal and conservative shows from Louisiana to Oklahoma to New York to California to Idaho to Florida in the last week or two and everybody's calling in bringing up PNAC to me.

00:11:29.000 So there is an awakening taking place to the confessions of these criminals.

00:11:37.000 And that's what it is.

00:11:38.000 To premeditatedly say, we need terrorist attacks against America, to get the people behind a war for global empire, to get the national resources, and then to come out and say that it's not about national resources, that it's not about global power, that it's not about weapon sales, is a fraud and is a lie and is a massive racketeering conspiracy.

00:12:01.000 And it's public.

00:12:02.000 And now Bush threatens Iran with action to halt its nuclear ambitions.

00:12:07.000 North Korea makes explicit threat to nuke us.

00:12:14.000 It's all coming up.

00:12:15.000 I didn't want to have to do this on the air, but I'm going to do it.

00:12:18.000 And I know there's no way to address all the people that are doing this, but I'd have to do that on 20 shows to reach the entire audience, because people tune in at different times.

00:12:29.000 The whole audience isn't obviously there at one time.

00:12:32.000 You know, I produce documentary films, and I tell people they can make copies for non-profit, not-for-sale purposes.

00:12:39.000 That means you can make copies of my videos to hand about to friends and family.

00:12:44.000 And nobody else that I know of does this.

00:12:46.000 I do this because I really do care, I want to wake this country up, I want to defeat the New World Order.

00:12:50.000 And because I do that, I don't sell as many videotapes, which is my main source of funding for my staff and what we do, and funds to produce more films in the future.

00:12:59.000 And to have cameras and computers and editing systems and all of that.

00:13:05.000 And when I found out that a major Christian organization would only buy like 20 of my videos every couple months.

00:13:17.000 And I knew they were advertising in major newspapers and magazines and I kind of ignored it.

00:13:22.000 I instinctively knew they must be bootlegging them and making copies.

00:13:28.000 And then I found out because I was mailed... I get mailed copies of videos in different jackets and different sleeves and different stickers saying this video is in high quality, there's a dead spot on it, return it.

00:13:42.000 Send me another.

00:13:43.000 And I have to contact them and say, uh, where'd you buy this?

00:13:46.000 Oh, I bought it from this person.

00:13:47.000 Well, we didn't make this video tape.

00:13:51.000 So I ordered from the individual, had someone out of another state order from them, and yes, it was a bootlegged video.

00:13:58.000 I'm sick and tired of it.

00:13:59.000 I'm going to start taking legal action against people that do it.

00:14:02.000 And if the person doesn't take their ads out of newspapers and magazines, I'm going to talk about them on the air.

00:14:10.000 I'm not putting up with this anymore.

00:14:13.000 I'm not putting up with it anymore.

00:14:15.000 Especially when it's people that have a lot of money.

00:14:21.000 I mean, what's really funny is this individual, this group, will order videos and say oh can we pay you later we don't have the money and there they are and I've talked to people that have advertised these publications selling guaranteed thousands of videos more than I'm selling and they are then doing this to me it makes me so angry because with that money I could hire more people get other

00:14:48.000 Other editors to work on other jobs, have better computers, have better cameras, have a bigger budget, and affect more change and save this country.

00:14:57.000 You see, it isn't good enough to these people that I say make copies of my films for non-profit, educational, or for self-purposes.

00:15:05.000 That's not enough.

00:15:06.000 And I want to commend those that have gotten the films, have made copies, that have aired them on AXS TV, that have gotten them out to people.

00:15:13.000 I want to commend you.

00:15:14.000 But anybody making bootlegs of my videos And selling them, report it to me immediately.

00:15:20.000 Because I'm going to start taking legal action.

00:15:22.000 Because I am sick and tired of the deception out there. 0.98

00:15:28.000 And I tell you, a lot of these so-called Christians are the ones that will stab you in the back in a minute. 1.00

00:15:33.000 Because they're not Christians, they're a bunch of profiteers, manipulators. 1.00

00:15:39.000 And I for one am sick and tired of it. 0.75

00:15:42.000 I don't want to get off into some big discussion of it, but I really do hope the listeners will get my original high-quality videos and of course Road to Tyranny on DVD.

00:15:53.000 I hope that you'll get it from InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or from 888-253-3139.

00:15:57.000 These are great videos.

00:15:58.000 So of course people want to rip them off.

00:16:01.000 three one three nine. These are great videos. So of course people want to rip them off.

00:16:08.000 One eight eight eight two five three three one three nine.

00:16:16.000 I know a lot of you have been given copies of copies of copies of my videos and they're

00:16:19.000 not very high quality.

00:16:21.000 If you're going to make copies of that fifth generation video, why not get the originals from me, support our cause, help us produce more films in the future, and at the same time make a high quality second generation copy?

00:16:38.000 Because we do need your support here, folks.

00:16:40.000 We've had a lot of growing pains, and we have just incredibly insane expenses for what we do.

00:16:50.000 And I don't do what the other hosts do.

00:16:52.000 I don't get up here and harangue you for contributions, and harangue you for this and that, because I've recognized it so many times in the past.

00:17:01.000 You know, I don't want to be seen as a Robert Tilton or something, but I never talked about this.

00:17:07.000 You know, our AM and FM affiliates pick us up, and then they get part of the commercials, and we get part of the commercials in a network arrangement.

00:17:15.000 But when it comes to shortwave, I pay for it.

00:17:19.000 I pay $7,000, $8,000 a month.

00:17:23.000 I pay for it.

00:17:24.000 And some months, we don't even make a profit.

00:17:27.000 We go into the red.

00:17:28.000 I've never talked about that on the air.

00:17:31.000 And it makes me very mad.

00:17:33.000 We do this to have an international outreach to reach the world with the truth and I do this and I don't talk about it ever, ever on the air and there are fat cat Christian organizations stealing from me and they will pay me back or they will be exposed on the air. 0.97

00:17:54.000 Bottom line.

00:17:56.000 Because You know, I am just so sick and tired of it.

00:18:00.000 I am fighting as hard as I can to defeat the New World Order, and these videos are mini printing presses, and that's why I authorize the listeners to make copies of them, and I want you to, and I want you to get them out to opinion makers.

00:18:16.000 So please go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and get The Road to Tyranny, get The Masters of Terror, get Police State 3 Total Enslavement, get my book Dissent into Tyranny, Go sign up at Infowars.net for great internet service to help us pay the bandwidth cost that I never talk about.

00:18:35.000 And help us reach out to the American people.

00:18:39.000 Alright?

00:18:39.000 I mean, who else, when you go buy a minority report, does it say on the movie jacket, please make copies for non-profit educational purposes?

00:18:49.000 No, it doesn't.

00:18:50.000 I do that.

00:18:52.000 That's not enough for these slimeballs. 1.00

00:18:53.000 Well, I know it's enough for you, and I appreciate you out there, but we do need your support.

00:18:58.000 So go buy all my videos, and buy my book, and make copies of the films, and do the right thing, because 90% of those that see the films are waking up, and are having the blinders taken off of their eyes.

00:19:14.000 And that, my friends, is very, very exciting.

00:19:20.000 So please get the films.

00:19:21.000 They're $25.95 a piece.

00:19:21.000 $20 if you order three or more.

00:19:22.000 InfoWars.com or Net.

00:19:23.000 Or 1-888-253-3139.

00:19:24.000 That's 888-253-3139.

00:19:24.000 or more, InfoWars.com or 1-888-253-3139, that's 888-253-3139, or just write to me,

00:19:38.000 Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar, LA MAR, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.

00:19:51.000 Take action now, folks.

00:19:54.000 Get the films.

00:19:55.000 All right, I'll come back and tell you about the World War III that a lot of us are setting up.

00:19:59.000 UNESCO saying that your children must be broken up from the family.

00:20:04.000 The family's the enemy.

00:20:05.000 There's no doubt about their goals.

00:20:06.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:20.000 And one more note about the people bootlegging and selling my videos, ripping me off.

00:24:25.000 You know, I'm not going to talk about any of these people on the air.

00:24:29.000 I'm just going to sue them.

00:24:32.000 And, you know, I've sued people before. 0.96

00:24:34.000 I don't make a big deal or public deal about that, but on other issues, I'm not going to sit here and take this type of garbage from people. 0.99

00:24:43.000 Their deception, their lies, their corruption. 0.97

00:24:47.000 But I am certainly just angry, angry about that type of stuff, because I have worked so hard to fight the New World Order.

00:24:58.000 And so many of our problems are in the so-called alternative media.

00:25:02.000 But that's just the nature of the world as things get more and more corrupt.

00:25:06.000 Let me cover what UNESCO had to say, and this is important.

00:25:09.000 We've got to expose UNESCO. 0.96

00:25:13.000 It says, strangle this monster in its crib. 0.83

00:25:17.000 That's the headline by Phil Burnen, Newsmax. 0.97

00:25:22.000 Now listen to the propaganda in this article.

00:25:25.000 Unless Congress regains its modicum of sanity, they're not insane.

00:25:30.000 They know what they're doing.

00:25:31.000 They want slaves. 0.99

00:25:33.000 They're not insane, Phil.

00:25:35.000 Unless Congress regains a modicum of sanity, the United States of America is about to rejoin an organization dedicated to the destruction of the last vestiges of Christian civilization. 1.00

00:25:49.000 For reasons inexplicable, the most sensible Americans, in September 2002, an otherwise sensible President George W. Bush, told the United Nations that the U.S.

00:25:59.000 will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, or UNESCO.

00:26:07.000 A wild-eyed bunch of President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and that the U.S.

00:26:14.000 had no business being a member of such a group.

00:26:17.000 Now, wait a minute.

00:26:19.000 I was on a talk show last night with Charlotte Isserby in Oklahoma City and she pointed out that she tried to get us out of it, but that they only got out of it in name and stopped funding the UN itself, but the Department of Education funded the exact UNESCO handbooks for the schools and the administration and for the National Education Association's policies.

00:26:40.000 So it's really always been here.

00:26:43.000 Reagan just tried to get out of it, and it at least didn't fund the UN side of it. 0.99

00:26:51.000 To Reagan's credit, but of course George W. Bush, the New World Order promoter, like his daddy that he is.

00:26:56.000 I mean, listen to this article.

00:26:57.000 An otherwise sensible President Bush.

00:26:59.000 You mean sensible when he tried to block arming the pilots when Barbara Boxer was for it?

00:27:05.000 You mean the sensible President who's for blanket amnesty and open borders?

00:27:08.000 You mean the sensible President that blocked Dan Burton's committee investigating Pardongate?

00:27:14.000 George Bush protecting the Clinton, pardoning the convicted cocaine dealers and money launderers?

00:27:20.000 You mean the George Bush that says he's going to re-sign the Clinton assault weapons ban and add a bunch of bans, including a ban on all semi-automatic shotguns?

00:27:28.000 You mean that sensible, President?

00:27:30.000 Come on, neocons, quit acting like he's some conservative or something.

00:27:35.000 He's a New World Order puppet. 0.59

00:27:38.000 And it says most Americans are blissfully ignorant of the insidious nature of the Well, where does Bush go?

00:27:44.000 paganistic pseudo-communists and real ones who are bound and determined to

00:27:48.000 create a new world order, establish a new world order religion of tree worshipers 1.00

00:27:52.000 that supplants and scorns Christianity and Judaism. Well, where does Bush go? He

00:27:57.000 goes to Bohemian Grove. They worship the trees.

00:28:00.000 I got them on videotape.

00:28:01.000 They worship Moloch.

00:28:02.000 I mean, come on.

00:28:03.000 Promotes abortion worldwide. 0.89

00:28:04.000 Seeks to capture control of schools and school children.

00:28:07.000 And is in the process of transforming national and privately owned property in the U.S.

00:28:11.000 and elsewhere into its greedy hands.

00:28:15.000 It says, consider this, Jim, from UNESCO's Own Policy Report, a ten-part series for teachers, published in 1949.

00:28:23.000 Under the title, Towards World Understanding, Asserted that quote, one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of a world society.

00:28:36.000 But government schools must stamp out love of country and the family must be viewed as the enemy.

00:28:43.000 As long as children read Poisoned air of nationalism, education world mindedness can produce only rather precarious results.

00:28:51.000 As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism.

00:28:57.000 The school should therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitudes that favor jingoism.

00:29:06.000 So there, they call the family a disease, they say it's got to be gotten rid of, and I have the Calhoun Reader used at UT today.

00:29:13.000 I don't know about your college, but it's the big standard desk reference for people going to be school teachers or social workers.

00:29:21.000 It says, the family must be eradicated.

00:29:24.000 It belongs to the age of barbarism, the state for the future.

00:29:29.000 Right out of Brave New World, right out of 1984.

00:29:31.000 Of course, Huxley's brother was Julian Huxley, the author of 1984.

00:29:36.000 His brother later became, excuse me, the author of Brave New World.

00:29:40.000 Aldous Huxley's brother, Julian Huxley, became the first Secretary General and Director of UNESCO in 1946.

00:29:49.000 So, Brave New World's what they want to do. 0.96

00:29:52.000 Drug the kids, all this garbage, it's what they're doing. 0.97

00:29:55.000 We'll be right back and we'll cover World War III. 0.99

00:29:58.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:30:49.000 you know the lady was known as well is uh... now older woman and uh... christian and believes

00:30:56.000 that uh... what happened

00:30:58.000 was wrong that abortion is wrong and has the opportunity because she was a 0.99

00:31:03.000 plaintiff in the supreme court

00:31:05.000 uh... to re-enter that case and try to overturn roe v wade which is great news and we have her lawyer joining us

00:31:14.000 uh... who's brought forward the new brief of the supreme court

00:31:17.000 in the next hour.

00:31:18.000 We have several other guests as well coming up in a few minutes.

00:31:21.000 Bush threatens Iran with action to hold its nuclear ambitions.

00:31:26.000 North Korea makes explicit threat.

00:31:27.000 Regime warns of immediate physical retaliation.

00:31:30.000 In the event of a U.S. 0.92

00:31:31.000 blockade, Powell appears to shrug off the statement.

00:31:34.000 Oh yeah, the North Koreans attack us. 1.00

00:31:36.000 They'll get to get us into a war and poses our saviors during this World War III. 0.72

00:31:41.000 When Bush told us the new war would last a hundred years, multiple generations, he wasn't lying to us.

00:31:48.000 How do we stop all these preemptive attacks on countries?

00:31:53.000 And of course, once they overthrow the thugs, they'll just put in thugs that are as bad or worse in many cases.

00:31:59.000 And of course, we're going to take your calls.

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00:33:05.000 Hey, it's good to be on, Alex.

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00:33:07.000 Oh, I'm doing alright, Jim.

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00:34:54.000 We put as much of that in there as we had room for, but we only got a couple hundred gallons of reduction out of it.

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00:35:54.000 I'm figuring it right now.

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00:37:01.000 So the filters go up on top of it?

00:37:03.000 It's a post filter.

00:37:04.000 Actually, they go on the stem.

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00:37:12.000 Jim, I know you do exhaustive testing.

00:37:14.000 How long will these post filters work to cut out the fluoride and the arsenic?

00:37:20.000 OK, a set of two is going to go about 1,000 gallons.

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00:40:26.000 Jim, thanks for coming on.

00:40:27.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

00:40:28.000 God bless.

00:40:28.000 God bless you, buddy.

00:40:30.000 Now, again, we have several guests coming up, and we're going to take your calls at 800-259-9231.

00:40:30.000 All right.

00:40:36.000 That's 800-259-9231.

00:40:36.000 We'll get you up and on the air.

00:40:38.000 Now, I want to recap this briefly.

00:40:39.000 That's 800-259-9231. We'll get you up and on the air.

00:40:46.000 Now, I want to recap this briefly. Bush and his cabinet, Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, in '96, before they were even

00:40:56.000 talking about running for election, founded the neocon think tank, Project for a New American Century.

00:41:02.000 And they penned essays, white papers, where they said, we need America to be attacked with a Pearl Harbor-style attack, or larger, by terrorists, for imperial mobilization to set up a new world order.

00:41:16.000 And they said the attacks are needed.

00:41:18.000 And they said it's going to be an endless war.

00:41:21.000 We can get the natural resources.

00:41:23.000 We can invade everybody. 0.57

00:41:24.000 We can take over the world.

00:41:25.000 We can set up a police state here domestically.

00:41:28.000 As long as we're in a war, the people will support the government.

00:41:33.000 They'll support the government while they take your pension funds, while they take the veterans' health care, while they take your guns, while they open the borders, while they do all of this.

00:41:42.000 While they institute Patriot Act 1 and 2.

00:41:45.000 While they build giant prisons that they profiteer off of.

00:41:49.000 They went into Iraq, paid off the Republican Guard, opposition imploded.

00:41:54.000 Now they're setting up a dictatorship, taking over the free press, confiscating the guns.

00:42:01.000 In the cities, the government will appoint 300 people who then vote for who the leader is.

00:42:07.000 So I go out and tell my people who can vote, and they go vote for me.

00:42:11.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:42:13.000 And now that's not enough for them.

00:42:15.000 All the lies about, oh, it's just Iraq.

00:42:18.000 Oh, it's just the weapons of mass destruction.

00:42:20.000 Oh, we don't have any plan to go into Syria or Iran.

00:42:22.000 And they have their own documents saying they planned two years ago.

00:42:27.000 This is from the London Times.

00:42:29.000 Bush threatens Iran with action to halt its nuclear ambitions.

00:42:33.000 Now, Donald Rumsfeld gave them the reactors on the board of ABB, the Swiss company.

00:42:41.000 As he was the bag man in 83, transferring the chemical and biologicals to Saddam. 0.94

00:42:47.000 President Bush issued his darkest threat to Iran yesterday, saying that the world would not tolerate its nuclear ambitions, close quote.

00:42:56.000 Days after infuriating Iran's ruling clerics by cheering demonstrations in Iran cities, Mr. Bush suggested the U.S.

00:43:05.000 would act rather than allow Iraq's neighbor to develop a nuclear capability.

00:43:09.000 Asked if he was going to stop Iran from building a bomb. 0.67

00:43:12.000 Mr. Bush said it will be dangerous if they have a nuclear weapon.

00:43:15.000 He said the international community must come together to make it clear to Iran that we will not tolerate the construction of nuclear weapons in Iran. 0.85

00:43:24.000 Now, Iran denies that this is happening.

00:43:25.000 They say it's for peaceful purposes.

00:43:28.000 And US and British companies have helped give them the technology that they do have.

00:43:34.000 Officials in Washington says the U.S.

00:43:36.000 will not act unilaterally against Iran.

00:43:37.000 Dan Bartlett, Mr. Bush's communications director, told the Times that Iran was an issue for the world body, for the whole world, unlike the route to increase pressure against Iran would be through the U.N.

00:43:52.000 Security Council, he said.

00:43:56.000 So one likely route to increase pressure against Iran would be through the U.N.

00:44:00.000 Security Council.

00:44:00.000 Now Bush A couple weeks ago I was at the G8 meeting and the whole G8 said, yeah we're for you attacking Iran if need be to stop them producing nuclear weapons.

00:44:14.000 But then you look at who's helped give them the systems that they can now claim are being used for nuclear weapons.

00:44:19.000 Now I have no doubt that Iran is trying to produce a bomb. 0.99

00:44:24.000 I have no doubt, in fact it's admitted, That North Korea has the bomb. 0.94

00:44:29.000 But our government acts like they don't.

00:44:31.000 They've got to stop them from getting one.

00:44:32.000 They had a bomb six years ago.

00:44:35.000 Now, according to the Federation of American Scientists and the Associated Press, Pyongyang, North Korea, can produce 100 nuclear warheads a year.

00:44:44.000 And China gave them the technology to perfect their intermediate-range missiles, some of which can hit the West Coast.

00:44:52.000 And Alaska, they shoot them over the pole.

00:44:57.000 And so now they've been enabled, they've been empowered, and the globalists don't care.

00:45:01.000 In fact, by threatening to invade, and by Rumsfeld releasing his invasion plan of North Korea two months ago, now North Korea is freaking out, threatening everyone, massing troops.

00:45:17.000 This is crazy, folks.

00:45:18.000 This is a massive escalation.

00:45:22.000 And boy, try criticizing the government when they're in the middle of a war with North Korea and Iran and Syria and they got a national draft in place.

00:45:31.000 And of course terrorists will conveniently carry out attacks, the government will be doing that of course, per the Northwoods plan to get everyone behind the war during this period.

00:45:45.000 So, uh, in Paris, two women and one man set themselves on fire.

00:45:49.000 They were among 100 demonstrators who had gathered near the headquarters of the DST to counter espionage service, demanding the release of a leader of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, which was the target of a police sweep on Tuesday.

00:46:02.000 Self-ventilations were also attempted by Iranian protesters in Hamburg and other German cities.

00:46:10.000 You know, it takes a lot for somebody to set themselves on fire.

00:46:14.000 And I don't think it's a good thing to do, but you talk about desperation to do something like this, and some are injured, others are dying from this.

00:46:24.000 There's now intolations taking place in Iraq.

00:46:26.000 They know if they shoot somebody, that'll be turned against them. 0.77

00:46:31.000 And so they're just setting themselves on fire and committing suicide.

00:46:36.000 Because they're in so much pain, they're so enslaved after 12 years of bombardment and genocide and DU, salting of the earth with depleted uranium.

00:46:47.000 And they've made all this a left-right debate, all the liberals are against the war.

00:46:50.000 No, Chuckie Schumer and Hillary Clinton and all the big socialists and Dianne Feinstein were for the war.

00:46:57.000 Just like they're for UNESCO.

00:46:58.000 Just like Bush is for UNESCO and the UN taking over our schools.

00:47:01.000 Just like Bush is for the assault weapons ban.

00:47:03.000 Just like Bush is for open borders.

00:47:06.000 They have all these neocons on the radio going, look at these liberals against the war! 0.99

00:47:09.000 No, the liberals are for the war, you dirty beatniks! 0.98

00:47:15.000 It's the fringe on the right and the left that really are the populace in this country that see through these lies. 0.97

00:47:22.000 I mean, look at Bush signing on to UNESCO.

00:47:24.000 I read this earlier.

00:47:25.000 This is from UNESCO's 1949 official document.

00:47:29.000 Their charter.

00:47:30.000 A ten-part series for teachers.

00:47:32.000 Published in 1949 under the title, Towards World Understanding, Asserted that one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of a world society, but government schools must stamp out love of country, and the family must be viewed as the enemy.

00:47:49.000 As long as the children breathe the poisoned air of nationalism, education and world-mindedness can produce only rather precarious results.

00:47:58.000 As we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism.

00:48:05.000 And Bush signs on to this and massively increases its funding.

00:48:09.000 And you call that conservative?

00:48:11.000 Just like the assault weapons ban.

00:48:13.000 Just like all of it.

00:48:15.000 Just like protecting those involved in Pardongate.

00:48:18.000 Just like the Open Board.

00:48:19.000 Just like the supercomputers in China.

00:48:20.000 The reactors in North Korea.

00:48:22.000 By the way, the transfers are continuing in North Korea as we speak.

00:48:26.000 Gotta build up that enemy.

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00:53:14.000 Dan, you're on the air.

00:53:15.000 Go ahead.

00:53:16.000 How are you doing, Alex?

00:53:17.000 Fantastic.

00:53:18.000 Let me throw this at you.

00:53:20.000 What if North Korea is a complete decoy? 0.75

00:53:23.000 What if the leader, whatever his name is, is totally in bed with this regime? 0.87

00:53:27.000 Well, we know he's in bed with a communist Chinese who are in bed with the globalists. 0.92

00:53:32.000 So when you say regime, I mean Bush isn't even a regime, he's a front puppet just like Clinton. 0.57

00:53:37.000 Oh, yeah, whatever the organization... No, North Korea is the real deal. 0.99

00:53:40.000 They've been armed, they're psychopathic, they're pure evil, as evil as it gets. 0.98

00:53:46.000 But what about just a scare tactic? 0.70

00:53:50.000 They don't have any resources, they don't have anything to take, you know, taking that country over or whatever is not going to... But in the meantime, Dan, that's not true.

00:54:00.000 The Iraqis laid down, special forces infiltrated British and U.S., paid them off in gold bars, euros, and dollars.

00:54:06.000 That's now admitted before the war.

00:54:07.000 During the war.

00:54:08.000 With North Korea, whenever they catch one of their police boats in South Korean waters, everybody takes cyanide. 0.98

00:54:14.000 They're totally mind-controlled.

00:54:17.000 No, but I'm saying they don't have the resources to steal from, like the Middle East. 0.82

00:54:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:22.000 You forgot that they're one of the biggest opium producers in the world?

00:54:28.000 And the CIA likes to deal smack, don't they?

00:54:31.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:54:32.000 I just think it's a diversionary tactic because in the meantime they're genociding a bunch of people, which is their plan too at the same time.

00:54:41.000 You keep nutrition away from them, you keep food away from them because they're threatening with the nuclear bombs and stuff.

00:54:47.000 It's an excuse just to keep that thing going.

00:54:49.000 Well, I think that the Globalists haven't really cared for the last few decades because Kim Jong-il and his daddy Dictatorships seem to have hereditary, you know, power systems.

00:55:00.000 Hmm, what do we have here?

00:55:01.000 Yeah, they are starving and killing two million people a year.

00:55:05.000 Their population is dropping.

00:55:07.000 They are a model country just like China.

00:55:10.000 That's what I'm thinking.

00:55:11.000 I'm thinking that there's never going to be any attack over there.

00:55:13.000 This is just keep the fear going, keep the diversion going.

00:55:16.000 That's what I said.

00:55:17.000 Well, it's a good point, Dan.

00:55:18.000 I appreciate the call.

00:55:19.000 But they are going into Syria and Iran.

00:55:20.000 Let's talk to Spencer in Ohio.

00:55:22.000 Spencer, you're on the air.

00:55:23.000 Go ahead.

00:55:24.000 Yes, sir, Alex.

00:55:26.000 Today is the anniversary of the Rosenbergs being fried. 0.94

00:55:30.000 Who, of course, were patsies.

00:55:31.000 It was the army that gave them the nukes. 0.79

00:55:34.000 So if you were president, you wouldn't have fried them back then?

00:55:37.000 Well, they were communists and they were little minions, but no, the government, as McCarthy found out, ran the communist system at a level above that, and our government gave the Russians the nukes and the weapons and the systems.

00:55:51.000 So what I'm saying is the Rosenbergs were patsies. 1.00

00:55:54.000 Well, you think Wenho Lee got away with it?

00:55:56.000 Don't you think he should be brought to justice?

00:55:59.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:55:59.000 You know Wenho Lee was a patsy. 0.87

00:56:01.000 That's been proven.

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00:56:12.000 It's an admitted declassified plan, Spencer.

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00:56:57.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:57:01.000 You've heard that the woman known as Roe, in Roe v. Wade, the plaintiff to the Supreme Court in 73, landmark case that legalized the extermination now of 50 plus million children, it dwarfs uh... slavery and the amount of deaths and uh... despair that we had in this country the slavery of black people and uh... now the uh... the uh... woman known as rogue has uh... well she's allowed to have a brief to the court because uh... she was a plaintiff in the case she's of course a born-again christian and knows now that it's murder and wants to reverse this and it's being brought to the Supreme Court joining us is Sharon Blakeney

00:57:52.000 And we appreciate her joining us, attorney and counselor at law, and she is one of the lawyers on the team with the organization here in Texas that is countering the government and trying to reverse this Nazi policy. 0.51

00:58:10.000 And Sharon, thanks for joining us on the show today.

00:58:13.000 Great to be here, Alex.

00:58:14.000 Tell us about yourself, tell us about your client and where this is all going, please.

00:58:19.000 Well, obviously it's going to be going to the Supreme Court.

00:58:23.000 Our client is tremendously relieved, quite frankly, Alex, at the filing of this.

00:58:29.000 I don't know if you got to see any of the press coverage, but it really lifted a great weight off of her shoulders.

00:58:35.000 She has borne this burden for quite some time after she realized the travesty that abortion is to women and children.

00:58:44.000 And she very much wishes to see this case set aside and overturned and we fully intend to represent her in doing that.

00:58:53.000 Well that's wonderful and give us details about your client and I want to revisit the 73 case and then look at what you think is going to happen with the new case at the Supreme Court.

00:59:04.000 Okay.

00:59:06.000 Well, basically, her affidavit, you can see it online if you go to www.operationoutcry.org.

00:59:15.000 You can actually read much more about Norma's story.

00:59:19.000 Very briefly, though, back in 1970, Norma was a homeless woman that was pregnant and did seek an abortion.

00:59:27.000 She went to a doctor.

00:59:28.000 The doctor said, it's illegal to perform abortion in Texas, but I know an attorney that would like to see that changed and maybe she can help you. 0.71

00:59:36.000 And then Norma was introduced to the attorney that filed the Roe vs. Wade case.

00:59:42.000 Norma actually had her baby. 0.99

00:59:43.000 She did not have an abortion and the baby was put up for adoption.

00:59:49.000 However, she had very little contact after that point when she signed the affidavit for her attorney regarding the case itself.

00:59:56.000 There was no trial.

00:59:57.000 There was no fact-finding hearing.

00:59:59.000 No evidentiary hearing at all.

01:00:00.000 It was all based on summary judgment motions and Norma McCorvey herself learned of the ruling at the Supreme Court by

01:00:06.000 reading it in the Dallas Morning News.

01:00:08.000 [Pause]

01:00:13.000 Alex?

01:00:15.000 Bye.

01:00:18.000 Yes, I'm right here.

01:00:19.000 I was over here on the other side of the studio digging through news articles.

01:00:22.000 I'm listening.

01:00:23.000 Go ahead.

01:00:23.000 Okay.

01:00:25.000 Just wanted to make sure you're still there.

01:00:28.000 Basically, after the ruling, Norma did become a worker in abortion clinics for several years, and it was during that time that she saw how abortion negatively affected women.

01:00:42.000 And then she became a Christian and very pro-life.

01:00:46.000 She has her own pro-life ministry, Roe No More. 0.98

01:00:49.000 And that is how we came to represent her.

01:00:54.000 And through what we believe will be a dramatic change in the law of this country, we have filed this Rule 60 motion on her behalf to see the case overturned.

01:01:08.000 Now, President Bush's wife is against overturning Roe v. Wade. 1.00

01:01:12.000 Do you think Bush will try to block this somehow?

01:01:15.000 No, actually, Alex, if you look online at the press briefing that Ari Fleischer gave yesterday morning, he was asked directly if the President has ever contended that the Supreme Court was wrong in ruling on Roe v. Wade.

01:01:30.000 And Ari Fleischer answered that the President repeatedly said throughout 2000... Alright, Sharon stay right there, we'll be right back.

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01:04:57.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:05:02.000 Alright folks, Alex Jones here.

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01:05:38.000 Roe wants abortion case Associated Press, the former plaintiff known as Jane Roe, in a 73 U.S.

01:05:47.000 Supreme Court case that legalized abortion, sought to have the case overturned in a motion filed Tuesday that asked the courts to consider new evidence that abortion hurts women. 0.99

01:05:58.000 Norma McCorvey, Who joined the anti-abortion fight nearly 10 years ago, says she regrets her role in Roe v. Wade.

01:06:07.000 Again, that was the alias, Roe v. Wade.

01:06:10.000 Says the Supreme Court decision is no longer valid because scientific and anecdotal evidence that has come to light in the last 30 years has shown the negative effects of abortion, including increased chances of cancer, You know, if God wants you to abort, and it's a bad pregnancy, it'll happen, folks.

01:06:30.000 And it's very bad for women to increase cancer, if you do it in an unnatural fashion, if you go in and kill the baby. 1.00

01:06:39.000 It also causes massive emotional problems, and it creates all these damaged women who then join the New World Order cause to carry all of this out. 1.00

01:06:48.000 And we're getting our babies back.

01:06:50.000 A jubilant McCorvey said at a news conference, all flanked by about 60 women, some who sobbed and held signs that read, I regret my abortion.

01:06:58.000 I feel like the weight of the world has just been lifted off my shoulders, said McCorvey, 55.

01:07:03.000 And Sarah Weddington, who I just so happen to meet here in Austin, because she lives here in Austin, the abortion advocate attorney who originally represented McCorvey, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

01:07:13.000 Representative from the National Organization of Women also did not immediately return a message.

01:07:20.000 And we're joined by one of Norma McCorvey's lawyers, attorneys, Sharon Blakeney, and she is with the Justice Foundation that is trying to counter what's happening.

01:07:35.000 And Sharon, we were talking about Bush saying that he is against Roe v. Wade, which is a good thing. 1.00

01:07:41.000 He wanted to make some comments to go into the history of what happened, how Norman McCorvey was used, and what this means now in the Supreme Court having the case reopened.

01:07:51.000 Please continue.

01:07:54.000 Well, obviously we're thrilled that the President has come out strongly voicing his opposition to Roe vs. Wade through Ari Fleischer yesterday morning in the press conference.

01:08:05.000 And we feel this just confirms that this is the right thing to do.

01:08:09.000 And as far as what this means, I believe, Alex, it's going to mean a dramatic history-making change in the laws of this country.

01:08:20.000 Well, that's certainly the case.

01:08:22.000 Going back to some more of the history of Norman McCorvey, known as Jane Robe, this homeless woman who they basically used, and then how she got into the abortion industry, the death mills, and then her awakening to this great evil, and now how she's trying to counter this, definitely a testament to her.

01:08:42.000 Can you give us the history of this for those that aren't aware of it?

01:08:48.000 Well, you gave a very good summary just then, Alex.

01:08:52.000 I'm not sure that I could add it to many more details.

01:08:56.000 I know that her story is in her affidavit that is on our website.

01:09:02.000 Obviously, she saw some very terrible things working in the abortion clinics that clearly pricked her conscience.

01:09:09.000 She came to realize that abortion is a great cruelty to women, that it's not a benefit to women, it's not a good thing.

01:09:17.000 And she saw herself the pain that women went through when they suffered abortions.

01:09:23.000 And through her work there at the clinic, she met a Christian that led her to the Lord, and her life has been dramatically turned around, and she very much wants to see this case overturned.

01:09:34.000 And we're very pleased and honored to assist her in that endeavor.

01:09:39.000 Now, it was clear that the socialists and the God-haters wanted to legalize abortion.

01:09:49.000 And we know that the United Nations organization known as UNESCO pushes abortion worldwide in a big way.

01:09:56.000 So they wanted this and it's clear they used Norma McCorvey.

01:10:01.000 Can you explain to us the legal system, how this works, how someone who has already had a case before the court can resubmit the case and give us some of the websites we can read the brief that you have filed?

01:10:14.000 Absolutely.

01:10:15.000 Our website is www.operationoutcry.org and if you click on the press packet icon there on the homepage, you will be able to read Norma's affidavit and the actual brief and motion that were filed with the Federal District Court in Dallas.

01:10:38.000 Basically, the legal basis for the motion is found in Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 60.

01:10:46.000 Under a Rule 60 motion, someone who is a party to a case can come back and file a motion with the court based upon changes in law or changes in facts that make it no longer just or equitable for the previous ruling of the court to have prospective application In other words, when a prior ruling of the court has become a manifest injustice or is clearly erroneous, given the changes in law and fact that have come to light since the original ruling, the court can overrule its case.

01:11:22.000 And the, any idea on, or have any of the justices made comments like Scalia or Rehnquist or

01:11:32.000 Ginsburg on what they're going to do with this new filing?

01:11:37.000 Well, I don't know that they've made any publicly and most likely they've not.

01:11:43.000 Judges are not allowed to make comment on a case that might possibly be before them.

01:11:50.000 And we fully expect that this case certainly will not have a final decision in the federal district court in Dallas.

01:11:57.000 Most likely it is going to be appealed by one side or the other.

01:12:01.000 And the interesting thing is, at this point, the only parties at this point are our client, Norman McCorvey, and the state itself.

01:12:11.000 And the state of Texas' interest, obviously, in the previous ruling was to enforce the laws of the state of Texas.

01:12:17.000 The laws of the state of Texas are that abortion should be illegal.

01:12:20.000 So in this case, we have the original pro-abortion forces, now anti-abortion, as the plaintiff, So a role reversal and then on the other side you have the state who was in a proper position before against the abortion.

01:12:36.000 So now are we going to see, in fact that was my next question, very astute comments from you.

01:12:42.000 What about Sarah Weddington and the others that are pro-death and pro-annihilation of humanity? 0.93

01:12:49.000 How do you counter them or are they going to get involved or will it be now or will it be people, No.

01:12:58.000 Claiming that she's being denied abortions?

01:13:01.000 I mean, what's going to happen here?

01:13:03.000 It'll be interesting to see, and I certainly can't speak with any accuracy on that.

01:13:12.000 But obviously, Sarah Weddington is no longer Norman McCorvey's attorney, and we're very grateful to God for that.

01:13:20.000 So, at this point, she has no voice in this case.

01:13:23.000 I don't know if any other Parties will attempt to intervene.

01:13:28.000 I don't know that they would be successful even if they did.

01:13:32.000 This is a prior party to a prior cause of action.

01:13:36.000 This type of motion has not been utilized extensively in the past.

01:13:43.000 There's one case, Agostini v. Felton.

01:13:47.000 It was an establishment of religion case.

01:13:49.000 Where the courts came back several years after a previous ruling and overturned the ruling.

01:13:57.000 Just by way of comment, I did notice on Fox News that their legal analyst, the judge, and his last name is escaping me at this moment, but if you look on their website, there's a comment from their senior legal analyst saying that in the Agostini case, That the parties were able to have their case overruled because it only affected them.

01:14:21.000 That is a great misstatement of the facts of that case of Agostini because in that case It affected the entire school system of the state of New York.

01:14:31.000 And so, there was many, many party or persons that were affected by the ruling of the court.

01:14:38.000 Well, look, I can't claim that Roe v. Wade just applies to Norma McCorvey, Jane Roe, being able to get her abortion.

01:14:46.000 Exactly.

01:14:47.000 Because it legalized this grisly practice.

01:14:50.000 Nationwide, and was used as that precedent.

01:14:53.000 So clearly the precedent states that, and they can't suddenly tell us the sky is red when we all know it's blue.

01:15:00.000 You're exactly right, Alex.

01:15:00.000 Exactly.

01:15:03.000 And basically, under the law, the ruling in Agostini, and the basis of the Rule 60 motion, we have the changes in law and the changes in fact that support the idea that prospective application of Roe is just no longer just.

01:15:19.000 We know now that abortion is terrible for women. 0.99

01:15:22.000 We have over a thousand affidavits that were filed with the court with testimonies of women of physical complications, miscarriages, infertility, cancer, depression, alcoholism, drug abuse, promiscuity, the list goes on and on.

01:15:38.000 It's a terrible travesty for women. 1.00

01:15:40.000 Then we have all of the new scientific evidence about the humanity of the child.

01:15:44.000 At the time that Roe was decided, the court itself said, we don't know and we're not going to speculate about when life begins.

01:15:51.000 Well, now we know.

01:15:52.000 I mean, people, children are born Very early on.

01:15:57.000 As early as 21 weeks in some cases.

01:15:59.000 And still live at this time.

01:16:01.000 Absolutely.

01:16:02.000 Take partial birth abortion. 0.61

01:16:04.000 They're killing babies that could be adopted on the spot. 1.00

01:16:06.000 Exactly.

01:16:07.000 Stay right there.

01:16:07.000 We've got a break.

01:16:08.000 We'll come back.

01:16:09.000 Talk more about what this does to women. 1.00

01:16:10.000 And we'll take your calls.

01:16:12.000 You want to weigh in on this historical Development with one of the lawyers involved in the case, Sharon Blakeney.

01:16:20.000 We really appreciate her coming on the show.

01:16:23.000 We'll give you more of the websites and how you can get involved on this incredibly historical issue.

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01:20:33.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:20:50.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:20:57.000 All right, my friends, we're back live.

01:21:02.000 We're talking to Sharon Blankney, attorney and counselor in law she represents.

01:21:09.000 The woman known as Jane Roe from the landmark 73 Supreme Court case, Roe v. Wade.

01:21:16.000 And Sharon, I was saying before we hit the last break that it's got to feel good to be involved in something that potentially could save millions and millions, hundreds of millions, they've already killed 54 million children.

01:21:31.000 And the next Einstein, the next George Washington, the next Orville Wright, Somebody that could be one of our presidents, or scientists, or auto mechanics, or loving fathers, or mothers, it doesn't matter.

01:21:48.000 This is incredible, and it's got to be, just, you've got to be, I mean, I know you haven't won the case, you haven't overturned this great evil yet, but it's got to really, you really are getting something done here.

01:22:00.000 What does it feel like?

01:22:01.000 Is it rewarding to be involved in something like this?

01:22:04.000 It's a tremendous blessing to me, Alex, on a number of different levels.

01:22:09.000 Most importantly, personally, I experienced abortion when I was in high school.

01:22:16.000 It was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.

01:22:20.000 Through the grace of God, I have the opportunity to use the horrible experience that I suffered and the education that God blessed me with.

01:22:28.000 To hopefully protect other women from experiencing the same thing that I did. 0.89

01:22:33.000 Well, they claim that they give you options, but when you go to these places, I've talked to the women, they just sell you on it. 1.00

01:22:40.000 It's not a human.

01:22:41.000 This won't hurt you.

01:22:42.000 They don't tell you about the cancer risk, the depression, how it causes a lot of women to become infertile, all the horrible things it does.

01:22:51.000 That's right.

01:22:53.000 It's not an informed consent procedure.

01:22:56.000 It's truly not.

01:22:57.000 And honestly, Alex, I don't know that it could ever be.

01:23:00.000 Because no matter how much information they would give you until you actually experienced it, I don't think you really know.

01:23:08.000 And that's why, you know, if you look at the situation with physician-assisted suicide, this Supreme Court, the same one that the justices we have right now, Most recently ruled that because a person in a position that might consider physician-assisted suicide is under such extreme duress, they could never make an informed decision.

01:23:31.000 That's why physician-assisted suicide was ruled illegal.

01:23:36.000 Well, it's also turned out that Wesley Smith's work in the Wall Street Journal that most people that have been killed by doctors weren't even terminally ill or mentally ill.

01:23:46.000 Exactly.

01:23:47.000 And that if they were denied their right to the physician-assisted suicide, once their pain was relieved or they received some emotional comfort, they were glad that it didn't happen.

01:23:59.000 And that's exactly what we see happens with women that are are that think they want abortion but then the situation 1.00

01:24:06.000 passes and they're so grateful that it didn't occur. Sharon, Blakeney, what are

01:24:11.000 the forces of death and that's what they are, the culture of death, what are

01:24:16.000 they going to do to try to counter this?

01:24:19.000 I mean I know you've got to have ideas of what their attack plan is going to be

01:24:23.000 Also, the Supreme Court, the makeup of it, are they going to give us some whitewash ruling that doesn't really get rid of abortion?

01:24:30.000 What do your analytical skills and skills of law and understanding and research show you?

01:24:36.000 And what are your colleagues saying?

01:24:38.000 What do you see happening?

01:24:39.000 Predictions.

01:24:42.000 Well, for obvious reasons, there's not too much that I want to comment on in that area.

01:24:48.000 Clearly, we have some ideas as to what they may or may not try.

01:24:51.000 In case they haven't thought of it yet, I don't know that I want to share my thoughts

01:24:54.000 as what they might do.

01:24:56.000 But frankly, Alex, I really feel that this is going to be a successful effort.

01:25:04.000 We have the law and the facts and God on our side.

01:25:08.000 And that's why they've been desperately trying to stop people peaceably protesting, showing people pictures of what abortion really looks like, because they know if people knew the truth, Americans would be against this.

01:25:20.000 Now, even Dick Gephardt voted to ban partial birth abortion.

01:25:24.000 Where is the partial birth abortion ban right now?

01:25:26.000 Is Bush going to sign that?

01:25:27.000 I mean, where is it?

01:25:30.000 Now I haven't, I'll be honest with you, I've been a little busy with our case and I haven't looked intently at that issue in the last week or so but my understanding was it had passed both the House and the Senate but different versions of it and so it had to go to committee for them to reconcile the differences and once that occurs then the bill should be presented to the President for signature which he has indicated he would sign.

01:25:54.000 Well, that's good news.

01:25:55.000 That is incredible news.

01:25:57.000 I want to come back and take some calls in our final segment with you.

01:26:00.000 The total free number to join us, listeners, is 800-259-9231.

01:26:03.000 We're talking to Sharon Laitney.

01:26:08.000 She is attorney and counselor at LAWB.

01:26:10.000 We'll tell you about the websites and how to get involved and how to support these organizations.

01:26:15.000 And again, she is the lawyer for Jane Roe in the 1973 U.S. 1.00

01:26:20.000 Supreme Court case.

01:26:23.000 She is the lawyer now countering that case that was brought by Sarah Weddington.

01:26:29.000 We'll be right back.

01:26:31.000 We're on the march.

01:26:33.000 The empire's on the run.

01:26:35.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:26:41.000 Hello folks, this is Alex Jones.

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01:27:21.000 Come.

01:27:23.000 In the last hour, I covered a story out of Newsmax with his conservative, Bill Brennan, in Eskos.

01:27:31.000 Thrangle the monster in its crib. 0.78

01:27:33.000 Unless Congress regains a modicum of sanity, the United States of America is about to rejoin an organization dedicated to the destruction of the last vestiges of Christian civilization. 1.00

01:27:45.000 For reasons inexplicable to most sensible Americans, September 2002, an otherwise sensible President George W. Bush told the United Nations that the U.S.

01:27:54.000 will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, a wild-eyed bunch of President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and the U.S.

01:28:05.000 had no business being a member of such a group.

01:28:07.000 Most Americans are blissfully ignorant of the insidious nature of the crowd of one world Paganistic pseudo-communists, and real ones in some cases, who are bound and determined to create a new world order, establish a new world religion of tree worshippers that supplants and scorns Christianity, promotes abortion worldwide, seeks to capture control of schools and school children, and is in the process of transforming national and privately owned property in the U.S. 0.77

01:28:32.000 and elsewhere into its greedy hands.

01:28:34.000 So here's the problem.

01:28:35.000 Bush, under pressure, cuts eighty-something million to the worldwide abortion mill, which is much bigger than here.

01:28:41.000 Obviously, there's 6 billion people worldwide and then another 280 something million tacked on here.

01:28:48.000 So 50 plus million abortions here over the last 30 years, or 27 years, 30 years.

01:28:53.000 Imagine what it is overseas.

01:28:55.000 And now Bush has actually increased funding in the billions for other big abortion programs.

01:29:00.000 Now obviously, it's up to you to put pressure on the White House to back out of this.

01:29:06.000 We wouldn't be having abortion in deep trouble in this country if it wasn't for people taking action.

01:29:11.000 If it wasn't for people getting arrested, protesting abortion clinics, and counseling young women and men, and trying to teach abstinence, and trying to save our society from the MTV devil culture.

01:29:24.000 It's the only way to describe it.

01:29:26.000 This culture of death.

01:29:27.000 I know we've got a lot of callers, Roger, Bob, Debbie, and others that are holding that want to talk to our guest, who I really appreciate joining us, Sharon Blakeney.

01:29:36.000 And we are about to go to your call.

01:29:38.000 She is one of the lawyers representing Jane Roe.

01:29:41.000 That was, of course, the alias for Norman McCorvey in the famous case Roe v. Wade from 1973.

01:29:48.000 Sharon, any other points you want to make, websites you want to give out, points you need to make before we go to these calls?

01:29:54.000 Let me suggest one thing for your listeners, Alex.

01:29:58.000 As you know, the makeup of the Supreme Court is of incredible importance, especially given this case that we have filed, which may and most likely will be heard there sometime in the near future.

01:30:11.000 We're facing some possible vacancies on that court.

01:30:14.000 President Bush, in his campaign, had said that he would promote a culture of life.

01:30:19.000 There is a project called Project Rosebud.

01:30:21.000 If you go to www.F2A, that stands for Faith to Action, F2A.org, you can be a part of Project Rosebud, which is sending roses to President Bush for $10.

01:30:36.000 You can send a rose to President Bush with a message supporting his decision to promote a culture of life and to to appoint justices that will rule in accordance with that.

01:30:48.000 Boy, I bet the White House is just full of roses then.

01:30:52.000 That's right. There's been thousands that have been sent and we want to send more, Alex.

01:30:55.000 We want to make sure that if there's a vacancy on this court before this case gets heard,

01:30:59.000 that there's going to be a pro-life justice there.

01:31:01.000 I've got another idea.

01:31:02.000 That's a good idea.

01:31:03.000 How about sending a rose?

01:31:04.000 Maybe I should start this.

01:31:05.000 It says, please don't sign the assault weapons ban.

01:31:11.000 Well, I don't know.

01:31:12.000 The rose is the symbol for the pro-life movement.

01:31:14.000 I'm not sure what the assault rifle ban symbol is, but you're on the right track, Alex.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, something that is non-threatening, but gets the point across.

01:31:25.000 That's correct.

01:31:27.000 And Janet Folger, the Director of Face to Action, is wonderful at that.

01:31:30.000 If your listeners have never been to her website, I suggest they go.

01:31:33.000 She highlights the best of what everybody is doing across the country.

01:31:37.000 What are some of the other websites for the... I mean, what about the organization you're a member of that's been helping to fund this?

01:31:46.000 That is OperationOutcry.org.

01:31:50.000 And on there, they can also support the Justice Foundation, which I am a part of, which has filed this case.

01:31:56.000 And that's based right here in Texas?

01:31:59.000 That's correct.

01:32:00.000 And obviously, the Justice Foundation requests your prayer, your financial support, and affidavits.

01:32:06.000 If there are post-abortive women that have not provided affidavits to us yet, they can go online, fill out their affidavit, have it notarized, and send it in, and we probably will have an evidentiary hearing, and we'll still have some time to File more affidavits with the court if they get them in quickly.

01:32:23.000 Alright, so those websites for women that may want to do that? 0.63

01:32:26.000 That's correct, and that's operationoutcry.org.

01:32:29.000 Okay, let's go ahead and take some calls.

01:32:31.000 Roger in Pennsylvania, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:32:34.000 Yes, thanks folks, and if you please Alex, I have three or four comments slash questions if you keep coming back to me.

01:32:40.000 Now it's my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that even some otherwise good Christian media analysts As suggested, that Roe or any subsequent decision has ruled regarding the personhood of that unborn child.

01:32:57.000 And isn't it true, in fact, that that was studiously avoided in every decision?

01:33:05.000 Roger, they have, the Supreme Court has ruled that a fetus is not a person.

01:33:11.000 A fetus obviously is an unborn child, and if you look in Black's Law Dictionary, that's what the definition of fetus is, although the other side doesn't want you to know that.

01:33:19.000 So it's two word games, like what does the word is, is mean?

01:33:23.000 Exactly.

01:33:23.000 Do you just de-factor or explicitly?

01:33:26.000 Correct.

01:33:27.000 Now, one thing the court has not done, which our case is specifically requesting, is rule upon the humanity of the child.

01:33:34.000 They have never been presented scientific evidence regarding the humanity of the child.

01:33:39.000 And so that is something very... I mean, come on, folks!

01:33:42.000 It's an embryonic human, just like a little seedling is an oak tree, and I'm sick and tired of these word games.

01:33:49.000 Exactly.

01:33:50.000 It's got 46 chromosomes.

01:33:51.000 It's a human.

01:33:55.000 There's probably a short-form name for that constitutional provision, some doctrine name, where the Congress can say, by the way, we have determined that the unborn child is a person and entitled to all the rights and protections under the Constitution, etc., etc., and the Supreme Court cannot rule to the contrary.

01:34:16.000 Case closed.

01:34:18.000 Is there a name for that, and might not that be a better route?

01:34:23.000 Well, Roger, I don't know about a better route.

01:34:26.000 This is the route at this time that we're taking.

01:34:30.000 You're saying it's a human being... Right.

01:34:33.000 If you're speaking of a constitutional amendment, which would require ratification by the state... No, no, no.

01:34:38.000 That doesn't require an amendment.

01:34:40.000 You're saying that the Ninth and Fifth and Fourth Amendment would cover this?

01:34:45.000 I should have the article section in the Constitution, but it does say that Congress can Keep the Supreme Court hands off on a particular matter.

01:34:53.000 Roger, I've got other callers.

01:34:55.000 Do you want to make your last point?

01:34:57.000 Uh, yeah.

01:34:57.000 Now, even some people that support the right to abortion, which was, of course, invented out of whole cloth in Roe, there's even some liberal atheists, etc., that while they want that right, they see that as a horrible decision in itself.

01:35:13.000 They would want to see it through some other avenue.

01:35:17.000 And I...

01:35:21.000 I think your case might say, well, that was wrong for Norman McCorvey.

01:35:26.000 Nevertheless, that doesn't undermine the general principle.

01:35:31.000 OK, Roger, I'm going to let you go.

01:35:33.000 We've got a lot of callers.

01:35:34.000 And the point you're making we made in the last segment, and you made some good points, Roger, we've got to be fair to the listeners.

01:35:41.000 We only have a few minutes left with our guests, about nine minutes left.

01:35:44.000 We already said this, that they're gonna try, and she talked about the analyst on Fox, our guest did, the lawyer representing Norma McCorvey, going back to the Supreme Court, that they're already trying to say, okay, well this will just be in the individual case of Jane Roe, Norma McCorvey, of the true name.

01:36:03.000 The point is, it was used as a precedent to legalize abortion nationwide, they cannot say that, and if they try it, it's a total fraud.

01:36:09.000 Any other comments on that subject, Sharon?

01:36:12.000 I agree with you, Alex.

01:36:13.000 Okay, so it's clear, the precedent's clear, it's been used in the state governments, in the state rulings and other federal rulings, so there is no debate on this, though they'll probably try.

01:36:23.000 Bob in Colorado.

01:36:24.000 Bob, you're on the air.

01:36:25.000 Go ahead.

01:36:26.000 Thank you, Alex, and thank you, Sharon.

01:36:29.000 Just a point that I have a problem with, and that is using the term abortion.

01:36:37.000 Abortion is nature's way of doing something To correct her wrong, but what we're talking about is infant side.

01:36:46.000 Invasive, invasive medical murder.

01:36:49.000 That's right, and this is practiced by not only the mother, but by the butchers of science that perform these operations. 1.00

01:36:57.000 Well, they're the real parties, because they're doctors, they have a Hippocratic Oath, they know what they're doing, they pull those little arms and legs out of there.

01:37:05.000 Well, wouldn't it be more correct to call it infancide than abortion, because abortion pertains to a whole other subject.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, we get back to semantical terms.

01:37:14.000 The enemy is good at manipulating terms.

01:37:17.000 Any comments to what Bob is saying, Sharon?

01:37:21.000 Well, I don't really care what they call it.

01:37:24.000 I just don't want it to be legal anymore.

01:37:27.000 Absolutely.

01:37:28.000 Okay, Bob, anything else?

01:37:30.000 No.

01:37:30.000 Thank you again, and have a nice day, both of you.

01:37:33.000 Bono Fortuna.

01:37:34.000 Thank you, Bob.

01:37:36.000 Thank you, Bob.

01:37:38.000 Debbie in Texas, you're on to the air with our guest lawyer representing in the new case with Roe Wade going in there.

01:37:45.000 Go ahead.

01:37:46.000 Hello.

01:37:47.000 Thank you.

01:37:47.000 I appreciate your work.

01:37:49.000 And I just wanted to ask two quick little questions.

01:37:54.000 First was, What type of cancers are they finding related to abortion?

01:38:00.000 Female cancers? 1.00

01:38:01.000 Cervical, uterus, breast.

01:38:03.000 Am I correct saying that?

01:38:05.000 That's correct.

01:38:07.000 Okay.

01:38:08.000 And then the second question is off topic, but I wanted to ask Alex, I have a, my mother's a very intelligent, well-read person that knows a lot of history, and I've been sharing a lot of information with her, your videos and that sort of thing.

01:38:25.000 And she keeps, she always asks me over and over, what, why do all these globalists and all these secret societies and all these powerful people, why do they get so caught up?

01:38:39.000 And doing what they're doing, and she keeps saying they're not going to live forever.

01:38:42.000 So why do they do this?

01:38:44.000 I mean, I think I know the answer.

01:38:45.000 But I want to hear your answer.

01:38:47.000 Well, I mean, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

01:38:51.000 The nature of power is that people that get into positions of power want more power, and it attracts sociopathic, and in many cases not just sociopathic, but sadistic individuals.

01:39:02.000 And that's a big question.

01:39:03.000 Why is there evil in the world?

01:39:04.000 And we know why.

01:39:04.000 They follow their father, don't they?

01:39:07.000 Right.

01:39:07.000 and so that's the answer of why people people do what they do they want control

01:39:12.000 uh... they're afraid of the minions are around them and help them get where they

01:39:15.000 are so they tend to get more sadistic of the more powerful they

01:39:20.000 get and i guess it's because a lot of these plans are very long

01:39:23.000 range plans over decades of the new world order is like a

01:39:28.000 university the the the the new world order is like a university

01:39:32.000 it it it it has people that sit in the positions of power but it

01:39:35.000 goes on the institution has a life in this corrupt world system

01:39:39.000 has a life of its own of course you know i'm i'm i'm fully persuaded that it

01:39:47.000 uh... because uh... i don't think men in and of themselves

01:39:51.000 orchestrate what these evil men do.

01:39:54.000 So, I mean, that tells me that Satan himself is the one that's actually, you know, the genius behind it all.

01:40:02.000 Well, of course, the devil's biggest trick was convincing us he didn't exist, and now you have moral relativism, and people, you know, don't even know what good and evil is.

01:40:09.000 Thanks for the call, Debbie.

01:40:11.000 And this is a fight, isn't it, about good and evil, Sharon?

01:40:15.000 Absolutely.

01:40:17.000 Absolutely it is.

01:40:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Wyatt in Maryland.

01:40:20.000 Wyatt, you're on the air with our guest.

01:40:22.000 Go ahead.

01:40:23.000 Hello, good afternoon, and best of luck to you, and I hope that you're successful, Sharon, in your endeavor to overturn this decision.

01:40:35.000 The decision wasn't actually about abortion.

01:40:38.000 It was about choice, wasn't it?

01:40:39.000 In other words, the Supreme Court decision wasn't actually about the right to choose, not about abortion.

01:40:48.000 Well, I think, again, Wyatt, that's getting into some semantics of it.

01:40:51.000 I think what we're dealing with now is the results of a 30-year experiment, a social experiment, of abortion.

01:41:00.000 I think we see now that it's a terrible thing and it's time for it to end.

01:41:03.000 I don't think it was an experiment.

01:41:04.000 I think it was a well-orchestrated plan.

01:41:08.000 As Alex pointed out in the beginning of his show, just about the destruction of the family, according to a 1949 document that he was talking about.

01:41:18.000 Yeah, this is UNESCO, and they said That a 10-part series for teachers published by UNESCO in 1949 under the title Towards World Understanding asserted that one of the chief aims of education today should be to prepare boys and girls to take an active part in the creation of world society, but government schools must stamp out love of country and family must be viewed as the enemy.

01:41:41.000 I think semantics can play an important part in all of this.

01:41:46.000 I'm sure that the opposite side will be using semantics also.

01:41:53.000 One gentleman kind of stole my thunder a little bit.

01:41:56.000 According to the dictionary that I had, abortion was a natural miscarriage.

01:42:03.000 And it's actually aborticide, which is a doctor-assisted or assisted type of abortion. 0.82

01:42:09.000 And if you take aborticide and homicide, you might want to call it semantics, but it's still the same thing.

01:42:15.000 So it is a form of homicide and genocide.

01:42:18.000 So it's not... semantics can be used, and you could say, well... It's killing our young... That's right!

01:42:23.000 ...in the tender womb, and they're totally... I mean, it's the equivalent of grabbing a kid off the street and going and cutting their arms and legs off. 0.99

01:42:30.000 That's right.

01:42:30.000 Okay, Alex, well, good luck to you, and I hope everything works out, and I'll be praying for you.

01:42:35.000 Alright, thank you.

01:42:35.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:42:36.000 I appreciate it.

01:42:37.000 So, how long until we find out what the Supreme Court's going to do with this?

01:42:41.000 You say it's going into the appellate court in Dallas.

01:42:43.000 How long until it gets up to the Supreme Court?

01:42:46.000 Well, it's actually not in the appellate court, Alex.

01:42:49.000 We filed this in the Federal District Court in Dallas, Texas, which was the court where the original filing was made.

01:42:57.000 Now, this may be a little more detailed than you were looking for, but basically the court there has to make a decision whether they're going to have one judge hear the case or if they're going to convene a three-judge panel.

01:43:10.000 There was a statute in place at the time of the original ruling that called for a three-judge panel in any case declaring or challenging the constitutionality of a state statute.

01:43:21.000 And so they could now rule then that the abortion is illegal and then what area of the country would then have a ban on abortion?

01:43:31.000 And then you'd have an appeal go to the Supreme Court.

01:43:33.000 How does this work?

01:43:35.000 Well, if the court chooses to convene a three-judge panel and that panel makes a ruling either for or against, there is a direct appeal to the United States Supreme Court for any ruling from a three-judge court.

01:43:50.000 Now, if the Federal District Court chooses to only have one judge hear the case, Then, after that ruling, the case would then be appealed to an appellate court, and then to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

01:44:03.000 So we're talking about years here?

01:44:06.000 It could be years, or it could be one year.

01:44:08.000 Millions more dead children.

01:44:10.000 Right.

01:44:11.000 We have to wait.

01:44:13.000 The federal district court here has a lot of decisions to make, and sometimes these things just move very, very swiftly, and other times they get bogged down.

01:44:22.000 Well, how do we lobby to make sure it moves quickly?

01:44:27.000 Well, I suppose... It's a lot more important than can a school teacher wear a dress.

01:44:33.000 You know, they've got cases like that, I know, in the courts.

01:44:33.000 They're a man.

01:44:37.000 Right.

01:44:38.000 I don't anticipate they're going to sit on it too long because the longer they sit on it, the more support is going to swell on both sides and we could be in the middle of a More, even more of a firestorm than we're in.

01:44:49.000 Godspeed to you.

01:44:50.000 We'll be praying for you.

01:44:51.000 We really appreciate Sharon Blakely for joining us.

01:44:54.000 Take care.

01:44:55.000 Thank you.

01:44:56.000 You bet.

01:44:56.000 I'll come back.

01:44:57.000 Got some comments on this and some other news.

01:44:59.000 We'll go to the next hour with another guest.

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01:48:11.000 This is a testament to what can happen if you get involved and keep pushing.

01:48:16.000 We could see Roe v. Wade overturn.

01:48:20.000 But, I predict that we'll be lucky if we get a ban on partial birth abortion.

01:48:29.000 And I want to say blessed because it's just sick what's happening.

01:48:33.000 God wants it all stopped and humanity should want it all stopped.

01:48:38.000 But, Just watch the type of judges Bush puts in there.

01:48:44.000 I mean, the guy just signed on to UNESCO that worldwide is killing hundreds of millions of children every decade through abortion.

01:48:52.000 Hundreds of millions.

01:48:53.000 It dwarfs the 54 million in this country.

01:48:57.000 And I know a lot of you have abortions out there, and so you've tried to rationalize what's happening, but you've got this pain in your heart, in your stomach, in your mind.

01:49:05.000 Why don't you repent and ask God for forgiveness, and beg the baby for forgiveness, and you'll be forgiven.

01:49:13.000 You'll be forgiven.

01:49:16.000 Like the thief hanging on the cross next to Christ.

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01:49:20.000 It was a human being you killed.

01:49:22.000 Stop being a party to the murder of other children.

01:49:25.000 Join us in the fight against this.

01:49:28.000 By the way, street preachers now on public streets are being beat up by police and arrested nationwide.

01:49:32.000 I'm going to be getting some of those guests on.

01:49:34.000 This is confirmed mainstream news.

01:49:36.000 They're banning political protest of almost any type.

01:49:38.000 The feds carry out the abortion clinic bombings from all the evidence we have, and then blame it on Christians and try to demonize those that are against abortion.

01:49:47.000 The Feds are going to do this with biometrics, I have no doubt.

01:49:50.000 As you complain about biometrics in the Cashless Society, they'll form terror groups that blow stuff up, protesting against biometrics.

01:49:56.000 Then, oh, if you're against biometrics, you're with the terrorists.

01:49:59.000 This is how they do it.

01:50:00.000 You're against the New World Order, you're a terrorist.

01:50:03.000 See?

01:50:04.000 This is the globalist tactic.

01:50:05.000 We've proven it in hundreds of cases.

01:50:10.000 And, uh...

01:50:11.000 You know, even people on the left are waking up and coming out against abortion because they've had abortions, they know it's wrong, the health risk, all of it.

01:50:19.000 It's time to repent.

01:50:20.000 It's time to have some decency!

01:50:22.000 It's time to not kill children!

01:50:26.000 And all this life of the mother stuff.

01:50:28.000 I mean, if a surgery needs to take place, and a baby, you know, was lodged, killing the mother, and in the surgery they remove the human being, the baby and the mother dies, and the baby dies, or the mother lives, the baby dies, then that's not an abortion.

01:50:45.000 So, you know, before the mother was in risk, they'd go in and do a surgery, it wasn't called an abortion, it was a surgery and the baby died.

01:50:52.000 This is abortion, this is sick! 0.96

01:50:55.000 This is sick!

01:50:57.000 And Trent Lott was going to pass the same version as the House last year, and Bush got mad and told him to not bring up that ban on partial birth abortions.

01:51:06.000 So there's a lot of sneakiness going on, and I look at Bush's actions.

01:51:11.000 Claims he's against abortion here, funds it worldwide. 0.97

01:51:15.000 So it's like saying, OK, I'm not going to kill this kid, but I'm going to bash the brains out of 100,000. 0.99

01:51:19.000 So I'm good because I saved this one kid, but I'm going to kill all these other kids. 1.00

01:51:23.000 It's a sick joke.

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01:54:07.000 bush claims he's against abortion but he signed on to UNESCO the world harbinger of abortion funding

01:54:14.000 hundreds of millions of abortions just in the last decade alone 0.99

01:54:20.000 So, it's very serious.

01:54:22.000 We had Well, Jane Roe's attorney on, her real name is Norma McCorvey, she's now a born-again Christian, worked in the death mills, is against what happened, and says it harms women and children. 0.92

01:54:35.000 We had her lawyer, Sharon Blakeney, on to talk about Roe v. Wade and how it's now in the federal courts, because she's allowed to petition on the same case and try to get that overturned. 0.99

01:54:46.000 And as you heard from our guest, the neocons on Fox, they're going, well, this will fail because Roe v. Wade was about an individual case.

01:54:54.000 No, it wasn't, neocon liars! 0.63

01:54:57.000 It was used for abortion nationwide!

01:55:01.000 So that's coming up, and you watch Bush play some little tricks here and drop the ball on purpose, because he's, well, with one hand, saving a few children, maybe, with the other hand, committing millions to death camps.

01:55:15.000 Committing millions to instant death.

01:55:18.000 In the womb.

01:55:20.000 So that's coming up.

01:55:24.000 The left is starting to find out about election fraud.

01:55:27.000 I'm seeing a lot of mainstream left-wing websites talking about touchscreen systems that Chuckie Schumer and Bush are putting in that are totally fraud-ridden, no record of how you voted, just incredible corruption.

01:55:38.000 Globalist companies own the companies that produce these machines.

01:55:43.000 And to talk about this and a bunch of other forms of election fraud, And how the disenfranchised left is introducing commercials with a conscience, airing now on CNN, A&E and VH1.

01:56:00.000 Joining us in the next segment is Michelle Schacht, the big bluegrass and blues gold platinum record celebrity, I guess. 0.75

01:56:13.000 That's a weird way to say it, but a recording artist.

01:56:17.000 While Texas born, Michelle was born and bred in tradition of bluegrass and blues and swing.

01:56:22.000 She became a true British pop phenomenon and she's involved with Greg Pallast and others trying to expose the corruption.

01:56:29.000 And so we'll talk about it and see where she's coming from in the next segment.

01:56:37.000 Have her on for about 20 minutes or so. 0.97

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01:56:43.000 And, uh, what's developing around the world and some of the news I never got to yesterday, like Orrin Hatch wanting the government to have backdoors to hack into all your computers in the name of stopping illegal downloads of music and software.

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02:01:21.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:01:27.000 We've had award-winning BBC News and I investigative journalist Greg Pallis, who's an American, on four or five times and he's dropped just huge bombshells on us.

02:01:40.000 Declassified IMF World Bank documents where they say they want to implode our economies, take our pension funds, literally set up dictatorships.

02:01:50.000 It's their own documents.

02:01:52.000 And they've even come out and admitted that Greg Powell has accurate documents, but said, well, you know, he's just putting a bad light on them.

02:02:00.000 He's also exposed election fraud by Republicans and Democrats in Choice Point, Uh, working for President Bush in the election in Florida, then getting all these big government contracts, running a bunch of other scams, and it really is important information.

02:02:17.000 In fact, I've seen the left wing here in Austin, the phony left wing, just like we have the phony neocon conservatives, they're all really on the same team, attack Greg Palast.

02:02:27.000 In the Chronicle, in Austin last week, they attacked myself and Greg Palast.

02:02:32.000 Didn't say Greg was wrong about anything, just said, oh well, he's wrong because he criticizes Democrats too.

02:02:40.000 It's this mindless left-right stuff that keeps the corrupt, globalist New World Order agenda moving forward.

02:02:46.000 And one of Greg Palast's associates involved in the fight against this globalization is Michelle Schott.

02:02:57.000 And she, of course, is a best-selling British pop phenomenon and swing, blues, bluegrass, and a bunch of other music.

02:03:08.000 And she's been an activist involved in just a whole bunch of different areas.

02:03:14.000 And she's now involved with a group that is introducing commercials with a conscience, airing now on CNN, A&E, and VH1.

02:03:24.000 And their press release says, you probably heard about this in the news, as the media continues to be owned and operated by a small, biased minority, it's not free market either, I would add.

02:03:34.000 The need increases for a forum that can expose alternative truths and opinions.

02:03:39.000 So, we're talking about alternative information and to tell us about it is Michelle Schacht.

02:03:46.000 And I appreciate you coming on the show, Michelle.

02:03:48.000 It's my pleasure, Alex, and being a A UT alumni there in Austin, it's good to kind of, by phone, be back at home.

02:03:56.000 Where are you now?

02:03:57.000 I'm in Los Angeles and I'm working with this group, Commercials with a Conscience.

02:04:02.000 Actually, people should go to the website standupnow.org if they kind of want to trace the roots of this grassroots citizens initiative.

02:04:12.000 But a lot of us are, of course, out here in the Citizens Republic of California.

02:04:18.000 Absolutely, and Greg Pallas and others are involved.

02:04:23.000 What is the organization trying to do?

02:04:25.000 What are the commercials focused on?

02:04:27.000 Well, you've got to play fire with fire, man.

02:04:29.000 And if the media is being bought and sold by elites, well, the next best thing, I guess, citizens can do is organize and collaborate and come together.

02:04:39.000 And we've put together a commercial, and we're just outraged.

02:04:44.000 We are outraged by the encroachments on Not just our civil liberties, but our way of life as Americans.

02:04:52.000 Well, Ashcroft, two and a half months ago before Congress, the House and Senate, in two separate committees, read off a page and told the Congress, there is no Patriot Act 2.

02:05:04.000 Patriot Act 1 doesn't affect citizens.

02:05:07.000 Then on Monday, the Justice Department released a brief and said, yes, We will use it for all crimes, against everyone, no more Bill of Rights, secret arrest, everything.

02:05:19.000 Now we already knew that was in the bills because we've read it, but to have them lying and then admitting they have a Patriot Act too, and now saying, okay, it is against citizens, does that concern you?

02:05:31.000 It concerns me, and it concerns every American who cherishes our way of life.

02:05:36.000 When we sing that song, Our Sweet Land of Liberty, we're not saying empty words, we really mean it.

02:05:42.000 And I'll tell you what, this Help Americans Vote Act is the one that's got my dander up.

02:05:47.000 Because they're now proposing that we adopt the Florida model for our voting system, and that really is what's lit the fire under the commercials with the conscience.

02:05:57.000 We're saying this is a tyranny, and in the Constitution we are, by citizens, we are by rights supposed to oppose any tyranny which breaches these shores, and we've got one sitting in the White House.

02:06:12.000 Well, that's certainly in the Declaration of Independence.

02:06:17.000 Chuckie Schumer and George Bush collaborated together to fund the federalization of elections, to put in the touchscreen systems.

02:06:26.000 Lawsuits have been filed by Republicans and Democrats saying there's no record of a vote, it's totally fraud driven, with modems hooked into the federal government.

02:06:36.000 It's just a black box, and they tell you who wins.

02:06:39.000 So, out of the crisis in Florida, which they created, now they're going to, in the name of a solution, take over the whole system.

02:06:46.000 What are you concerned about?

02:06:47.000 Alex, there's no paper trail.

02:06:50.000 And, on top of that, it's handled by partisan elected officials who, you can see from the Florida model, have nothing but their own interests in mind when they keep this system in place, where they scrub voter lists.

02:07:05.000 You know, Kathleen Harris, she deliberately squashed the previous service that was scrubbing the lists when they noticed that there were some discrepancies that one person who'd been a felon in some other state would take out ten voters in Florida because they had similar names, not even the same names.

02:07:28.000 Well, now we've caught this government front choice point involved buying the names of Latin Americans for elections.

02:07:38.000 And of course, choice points now have been given contracts by Bush, and Harris has been given a lot of perks for doing this.

02:07:45.000 Now understand, I wasn't for Al Gore or George Bush.

02:07:48.000 They're two sides of the same coin, but we do see the corruption of other new services

02:07:54.000 and we do see that it's nothing but a political system our entire electoral process is now in peril

02:08:00.000 uh... what would you what is your organization calling for

02:08:04.000 Getting rid of the touchscreen systems or getting federal control out of the states?

02:08:08.000 What are you calling for?

02:08:09.000 Essentially, we're calling for citizens to take action, come together, and standupnow.org, if you go on that website, you will see that we're proposing all manner of citizens initiatives, but obviously elected officials have been bought and sold by corporations.

02:08:26.000 They're running amok with our government.

02:08:28.000 And this is a democracy by the people, for the people, and of the people, and commercials with the conscience is just one part of a strategy to organize and coalesce the citizens who this country really belongs to, not the elite who try to buy and sell the democracy.

02:08:45.000 Sure, we're talking to Michelle Schacht, a best-selling pop phenomenon, and she's been a social activist for a long time. 0.83

02:08:53.000 I would tell you, though, Michelle, that the difference between a democracy In a constitutional republic, in a pure democracy, you would have 51% of the people saying black people can be slaves again and they become slaves.

02:09:08.000 In our republic, you were talking about the Declaration, Bill of Rights, Constitution.

02:09:14.000 Under that, everyone's rights are protected and certainly our republic is being dismantled.

02:09:22.000 But Alex, I don't have time to split hairs over that.

02:09:26.000 The fact that we go along with a decision by the Supreme Court, because they are supposed to represent fairness and balance, means that we allow for four years this guy to run amok in the White House.

02:09:39.000 But come the next election, I don't even buy into the whole electoral system.

02:09:44.000 You know, why do we need to have a representative determining what the popular vote should be distilled down to?

02:09:50.000 I don't buy into any of that.

02:09:51.000 Let me tell you why we have that.

02:09:53.000 I mean, I agree with much of what you're saying, but some of the key issues I don't.

02:09:58.000 It's about states' rights.

02:10:00.000 You will get a dictatorship, take the 17th Amendment, that took our senators from the states and made them creatures of the federal government and destroyed local control.

02:10:10.000 That's why we have that.

02:10:11.000 But you know what it's like?

02:10:12.000 It's called mother wit.

02:10:14.000 That's what we say in Texas.

02:10:15.000 You've got common sense.

02:10:17.000 And people will go along with tyranny for so long, and once it becomes so blatant, they will throw the key chest into the Boston heart.

02:10:26.000 Well, that's true, but they've got to know what the real corruption is.

02:10:31.000 Now, I agree with you.

02:10:32.000 I mean, Bush is setting up a dictatorship. 0.98

02:10:36.000 He's the worst president that's ever been in office, but he's a puppet.

02:10:39.000 It's the corporations you talked about that are not free market.

02:10:42.000 I mean, there's a trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon.

02:10:47.000 Seven million dollar contract for Dick Cheney in Iraq.

02:10:50.000 No bids allowed.

02:10:51.000 And I hear what you're saying.

02:10:53.000 So, what specifically is your organization calling for?

02:10:58.000 Just trying to raise the awareness about this?

02:11:01.000 Well, there's been so much propaganda, hype, brainwash, manipulation in the media that we're fighting fire with fire.

02:11:09.000 Commercials with a Conscience is bought and paid for and produced by citizens Dealing directly with these citizens' initiatives, voter fraud, government corruption.

02:11:23.000 We'll have a whole list of issues that we can address, but the way we're going about it is, as I say, fighting fire with fire.

02:11:30.000 We're buying media time, just like the corporate elites do, and so we're calling on citizens Not only to help us with their financial contributions, but to get involved, make connections, citizen to citizen, to start a grassroots revolution, a fundamental movement for social change in this country.

02:11:55.000 Well, I know this.

02:11:55.000 Somebody's got to be brought to justice, because if you don't bring criminals to justice, the corruption just gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's a race straight to the bottom.

02:12:07.000 I mean, look, George Bush blocked Dan Burton's committee from investigating Clinton pardoning convicted cocaine dealers and money launderers, and now the Democrats are protecting Bush.

02:12:16.000 They're not contesting what happened with that election.

02:12:19.000 Do you guys understand that at the committee, chairman, and above level, it doesn't matter if they're Republicans or Democrats?

02:12:25.000 I got you covered, Alex.

02:12:26.000 We're not partisan in that sense.

02:12:28.000 We're dealing with an oligarchy.

02:12:30.000 Did I say oligarchy?

02:12:31.000 I meant an oligarchy.

02:12:34.000 This government is being bought and sold long, long ago, quite frankly.

02:12:38.000 I agree with you.

02:12:39.000 It's becoming blatantly obvious to even, you know, East Texas hillbillies like me at this point.

02:12:46.000 We see what time it is.

02:12:48.000 Alright, Michelle Schacht, can you stay with us for another segment?

02:12:50.000 Sure.

02:12:51.000 Alright, we'll come back with Michelle Schacht. 0.67

02:12:55.000 You know, they're doing some good work.

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02:13:03.000 I'm telling you folks, we're inches away from not even having local elections if they put these federal touchscreens in.

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02:17:30.000 And I agree with our guest, Michelle Schacht, that we do have an oligarchy in this country, but it's more than an oilarchy.

02:17:39.000 It's a weapons salesarchy.

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02:17:52.000 It is massive corruption that wants it all and wants it now.

02:17:56.000 And they are setting up a police state.

02:17:58.000 And I tell you, Michelle, that was exciting what you said about The point about losing our liberties, our freedoms, is that you guys are involved in exposing the Patriot Act and some of the things they're doing.

02:18:11.000 We're trusting that citizens are reading, getting their information from sites such as gregpalast.com, that they're getting their information from programs like yours, that they're connecting the dots themselves.

02:18:23.000 We don't underestimate people's intelligence.

02:18:26.000 All we're trying to do is get them to come together And to start creating a foment, a motion, a movement that, in our particular case, standupnow.org encourages people to fight fire with fire with regard to media.

02:18:44.000 That it's bought and sold, and your average citizen would look at the media and think, oh, I could never afford commercial airtime on VH1 or, you know, CNN or whatever.

02:18:55.000 And we're saying no.

02:18:56.000 You know what?

02:18:56.000 One person can't, but a whole bunch of us together can.

02:19:00.000 We're assuming that the issues that we address will be obvious to everyone.

02:19:04.000 By the time we get around to making a commercial like the one we did for Commercials with a Conscience, it's a general call to arms to say, enough is enough.

02:19:14.000 You're a tyrant and we're calling you bluff.

02:19:18.000 Well, the evidence is clear that the administration Is the front for the military-industrial complex that carried out September 11th. 0.86

02:19:27.000 Michelle, were you aware of that information?

02:19:29.000 Yeah, and you know where I got it from?

02:19:30.000 One of my favorite, favorite books of all time.

02:19:33.000 I don't know if it's available.

02:19:34.000 Yeah, I think it's available retail, too.

02:19:37.000 It's called Addicted to War.

02:19:40.000 You must know that one, Alex.

02:19:42.000 Sure, I read it, and I'm glad to see it in the stores.

02:19:46.000 But it isn't just Bush having prior knowledge, which is now coming out.

02:19:50.000 I got some more news on that today.

02:19:53.000 They funded and trained and ran the whole operation.

02:19:56.000 And, uh, have you ever heard about the Northwoods document, Michelle?

02:20:00.000 No, you caught me off guard on that, Al.

02:20:02.000 Well, that's a U.S. 0.66

02:20:03.000 government plan to carry out terror attacks, and they tell us why and how they would do this.

02:20:09.000 Does that concern you?

02:20:11.000 Well, you know, terrorism is supposed to be the big bugabear that frightens us all.

02:20:16.000 It's like Thomas Paine or Thomas Jefferson.

02:20:19.000 Anyone who gives up liberty for security deserves neither.

02:20:24.000 Yeah, that was one of the founding fathers.

02:20:26.000 Well, I mean, they tell us, give up liberty, you'll get security.

02:20:29.000 When you give liberty up, you get tyranny.

02:20:32.000 They're the threat to our liberty.

02:20:34.000 And that was, remember, one of the threats that the terrorists made was that they could overtake the United States because we were an open society.

02:20:43.000 Because we were too free.

02:20:45.000 And you've got the folks in Washington, D.C.

02:20:47.000 saying, okay, well now we've got a justification.

02:20:50.000 We're going to protect Americans from themselves. 0.99

02:20:51.000 Oh yeah, the so-called statements from the terrorists just mesh perfectly with the government, what they want.

02:20:56.000 Yeah, it just so happens.

02:20:56.000 Yeah.

02:20:58.000 Well, look, I can only commend you guys.

02:21:03.000 Who are some of the other people that are involved in your organization?

02:21:09.000 I'm sorry I'm not real quick with the names here because it's a fairly umbrella organization.

02:21:16.000 Well, there's Greg Pallast and many others here that I see that are involved, Michelle Schacht.

02:21:24.000 And again, this is very, very exciting.

02:21:28.000 And I hope that more people get involved in this.

02:21:32.000 And obviously, that's going to start happening.

02:21:34.000 Standupnow.org is the call to arms.

02:21:38.000 Commercials with the Conscience is the result.

02:21:40.000 You'll see the commercials broadcast, but if you go to standupnow.org, you will kind of see the infrastructure, how people are getting involved, and who's basically put their names on the line.

02:21:52.000 Because now, you know, these anti-terrorist organizations could go and find our names and say, Aha!

02:21:57.000 Arrest these citizens.

02:21:58.000 That would be your worst nightmare, right?

02:22:00.000 By taking action Well, they're not going to get away with that because we outnumber them and they are the terrorists.

02:22:11.000 They carried out the terror attacks and we're going to expose that.

02:22:14.000 You see, they don't care if we complain about Patriot Act 1 or 2 or any of this because they're going to carry out more terror and say, see, we told you so.

02:22:22.000 If we don't explain who carried out the terror and who stands to gain from this, they're going to continue to carry the terror out and pose as our saviors.

02:22:29.000 Were you aware of the Project for a New American Century, PNAC?

02:22:33.000 You got me again, Alex.

02:22:34.000 Well, this was a group that Bush formed, and they said, we need terrorist attacks in America to get people behind a global empire, imperial mobilization.

02:22:46.000 Well, I really appreciate you joining us and taking time out from your career to defend this republic from enemies, foreign and domestic.

02:22:54.000 And Michelle Schacht, Godspeed, and thanks for joining us.

02:22:56.000 God bless you.

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02:29:19.000 Alright, let's go ahead and go to Ron in New York, and some more calls, and I'll jump straight into the news.

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02:29:28.000 Go ahead, Ron.

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02:29:32.000 I was on my cell phone, didn't know whether you could hear me or not.

02:29:34.000 I've got a editorial here from the Daily Oklahoman about opposing the Patriot Act, but my thought is, one reason The city doesn't want to go along with this.

02:29:45.000 They don't want to rock the boat for federal money and tourist dollars.

02:29:50.000 They've got the bombing memorial here now, and they're trying to build a tourist economy on the bombing memorial.

02:29:59.000 And then they've got the Center for Terrorism here, which brings in federal money every year and Tinker Air Force Base.

02:30:07.000 But let me hit this.

02:30:09.000 Editorial, short editorial from the Daily Oklahoma real quick.

02:30:11.000 Well let me just tell folks that don't know, they proposed a city law to reaffirm the Bill of Rights and Constitution and the city council voted down the one member and said we don't have a constitution here and that's a federal matter so a simple resolution saying we support liberty and freedom what our veterans fought and died for The City Council said, well, we don't care about the veterans.

02:30:36.000 Go ahead.

02:30:37.000 Okay, well, we have a Republican mayor, Republican newspaper, and some Republican council members.

02:30:44.000 But anyway, it says, opposing the Patriot Act.

02:30:48.000 Understandably, the Oklahoma City Council has decided to decline to weigh in on the worth of the so-called Patriot Act.

02:30:56.000 It's a complex and controversial law, born out of the September 11, 2001 attack.

02:31:02.000 But one that doesn't lend itself to lengthy debate in municipal government circles.

02:31:08.000 Still, the issue is one worthy of the Court of Public Opinion.

02:31:12.000 The Act, passed by Congress and signed by President Bush, goes to the heart of individual civil liberties in this country that generations of Americans have fought and died for.

02:31:23.000 We've been generally supportive of Bush's war on terrorism, but have wondered if the Patriot Act goes too far By expanding governmental power to eavesdrop and give access to financial and computer records.

02:31:35.000 We disagree with the recent move by some members of Congress who would like to make the law a permanent one.

02:31:41.000 Lawmakers should be required to debate its extension or circumstances in waging such shadowy wars often change quickly.

02:31:51.000 Maybe the proposal by City Councilman Brent Reinhart to force the city to oppose the Patriot Act While deferred indefinitely, will serve a wider purpose by calling attention to an issue that needs the public scrutiny and skepticism.

02:32:08.000 Also, our local Channel 5 ABC affiliate conducted a viewer's poll the night the council voted on the resolution.

02:32:21.000 At 6 o'clock, their poll was running 4-1 against the Patriot Act.

02:32:27.000 Well, I would ask you, sir, to send me that information.

02:32:31.000 I know that I've lobbied on Oklahoma City radio stations against the Patriot Act.

02:32:36.000 I know conservatives are now learning what's in it, Ron, and I want to encourage you to keep up your work fighting the Patriot Act.

02:32:45.000 And I'd like you to send me, you can get a tape of that or a news article about that, the poll running 4-1 against the Patriot Act.

02:32:52.000 But even if it was running 100-1 for it, The Bill of Rights says that if it violates the Bill of Rights and Constitution, it is null and void.

02:33:01.000 And to please send me that editorial or a hyperlink to it, I'd like to post it on InfoWars.com.

02:33:08.000 For those that don't know, two states have passed laws reaffirming the Bill of Rights, decrying the Patriot Act as un-American and not stopping terrorism, and over 400 cities and towns have done the same.

02:33:21.000 So they're in deep trouble.

02:33:23.000 People are responding in defense of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

02:33:27.000 Ron, did you hear me yesterday and the day before read the Washington Times with the official brief of the Justice Department where they say the Patriot Act 2 is real and Patriot Act 1 will be used for all crime against all citizens.

02:33:45.000 I missed that, Alex.

02:33:46.000 I've been busy the last couple days, but I'm certainly not surprised at all.

02:33:52.000 Well, I've got you here, Alex.

02:33:53.000 I would like to ask your listeners to email the Daily Oklahoman and their CBS TV affiliate channel line at newsok.com and ask them to support the resolution against the Patriot Act.

02:34:09.000 You must have many, many thousands of listeners, Alex, so maybe we can put their weight on our side.

02:34:16.000 Absolutely.

02:34:16.000 They should do it in every city.

02:34:18.000 Every city that hasn't passed it.

02:34:19.000 We proposed it.

02:34:21.000 Two council members are for it in Austin, but they won't pass it.

02:34:25.000 They don't support America either.

02:34:27.000 Thanks for the call.

02:34:27.000 Before I go to Brandon and others and some more of this news, listen to this article.

02:34:33.000 Ashcroft defends Patriot Act in visit.

02:34:37.000 And Ashcroft went on to say that the Patriot Act didn't affect citizens, didn't take your rights.

02:34:44.000 That was out of the Washington Times.

02:34:46.000 But then, I have the other Washington Times article from Monday.

02:34:53.000 Now, the one I just read was from last Friday.

02:34:56.000 This is from Monday.

02:34:57.000 Listen to this.

02:34:57.000 Patriot Act on 2001, cast wide net, Frank J. Murray.

02:35:02.000 Now, all he did was quote the Justice Department's own brief to Congress.

02:35:05.000 It's public.

02:35:07.000 Now, how did I know a year and a half ago that Patriot Act I affected citizens for all crimes, took juries, Got rid of your right to face your accusers, secret arrest, but you notice that Daily Oklahoma article and every other article I've seen says, oh, more surveillance, more powers to stop terrorists.

02:35:27.000 They never mention it's about the FBI, local police breaking in your house without a warrant, taking whatever they want, planning whatever they want.

02:35:35.000 They never mention any of that.

02:35:37.000 They never mention that Section 802 says the new definition of terrorism is any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.

02:35:47.000 Well now the new Patriot Act says that Section 802 isn't broad enough.

02:35:51.000 They want an unlimited definition to secretly arrest you and secretly execute you.

02:35:57.000 It actually says it if you do not even knowingly commit a crime or even if you don't commit a crime.

02:36:04.000 Now let me tell you, that's worse than the Soviet Union. 0.97

02:36:08.000 So go ahead globalists, keep lying, keep spinning, you're not going to get away with it.

02:36:13.000 So this is out of the Washington Times, Patriot Act of 2001 casts wide net, long sought details have begun to emerge from the Justice Department on how anti-terror provisions of the USA Patriot Act have applied in non-terror investigations, just as battle lines are being drawn on proposed new powers in Patriot Act 2.

02:36:33.000 Overall, the policy now allows evidence to be used for prosecuting common criminals, even when obtained under extraordinary anti-terrorism powers and information sharing between intelligence agencies and the FBI.

02:36:46.000 So, what does that paragraph say?

02:36:48.000 The policy now allows evidence to be used for prosecuting common criminals.

02:36:55.000 Even when the information is obtained from the CIA domestically and given to the FBI.

02:37:01.000 The CIA domestically.

02:37:03.000 They've announced.

02:37:03.000 They're now operating domestically.

02:37:05.000 Well they've been operating for decades with the smack and the coke!

02:37:10.000 And now these criminals are going to be on our streets.

02:37:14.000 Now this is the Justice Department's quote here.

02:37:16.000 We would use whatever tools are available to us within reason to prosecute violators of any law.

02:37:22.000 We would use whatever tools are available to us to prosecute violators of any law.

02:37:28.000 Justice Department spokesman Brian Sierra said in the wake of his department's massive report to Congress describing how the USA Patriot Act is being implemented.

02:37:41.000 Now we've had Frank Murray on.

02:37:43.000 He's a great Congress watcher.

02:37:45.000 Actually reports what he sees, what's on C-SPAN.

02:37:50.000 But all the other articles last week were, oh Ashcroft assures you this is not for citizens, it's only for narrow terror investigations.

02:37:59.000 But semantically, he's telling the truth.

02:38:04.000 Because terror is now any misdemeanor crime.

02:38:09.000 Anything.

02:38:12.000 Now he did lie saying there isn't a Patriot Act II, there isn't a proposed second Patriot terror law.

02:38:16.000 When it was already introduced in the Senate under F-22.

02:38:20.000 Semantically, it's like Clinton saying, it depends on what the word is, is, is, is.

02:38:24.000 I mean, aren't you tired of this?

02:38:30.000 So, that's what they're doing.

02:38:32.000 Brandon?

02:38:35.000 In Texas, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:38:37.000 Hi Alex, how are you doing?

02:38:38.000 I'm actually a student at the University of Texas at Austin, and I listen to your show every now and then, and I'm really intrigued by a lot of things you say, but I was just curious, you know, as a student, what sort of sources can I look to to educate myself Because, you know, I listen to the politicians on the news, and we're just supposed to take everything they say.

02:38:54.000 But then I listen to you, and I can't just, you know, take everything you say.

02:38:57.000 I want to go ahead and educate myself.

02:38:58.000 So I was just curious, like I said, if you could name any sources that have spooked myself.

02:39:02.000 Well, when I say Section 802 is the new definition of terrorism, you go to thomas.loc.gov.

02:39:10.000 That's the Library of Congress.

02:39:12.000 Okay.

02:39:13.000 You type in H.R.

02:39:13.000 3162 or Patriot Act.

02:39:16.000 And there'll be five versions of it.

02:39:19.000 You click on the one that says enrolled and passed in the House and Senate.

02:39:23.000 That'll be the one with the latest date.

02:39:25.000 October 27, 2001.

02:39:26.000 And then you go to section 802 and you read the new definition of domestic terrorism.

02:39:33.000 When I say that Ashcroft says there's no Patriot Act 2, I have him on video saying that in Police State 3.

02:39:41.000 On C-SPAN.

02:39:42.000 Then I have him saying later there is a Patriot Act 2.

02:39:46.000 I have the Justice Department's quote here, that yes, it'll be used against citizens for all crimes.

02:39:51.000 No more Bill of Rights.

02:39:52.000 That's the Washington Times.

02:39:55.000 When I say that Oklahoma City is proposing a law to get rid of the Patriot Act, because I read it in their newspaper last week, they report the truth on most issues.

02:40:06.000 It's the spin they put on it.

02:40:08.000 We take the spin off of it because of our larger understanding of the geopolitical spectrum.

02:40:16.000 You understand what I'm saying?

02:40:17.000 Yeah.

02:40:20.000 So when Bush says we've got a new law to make your pension funds safe, I go to the proposed changes and it says that you will no longer own your pension funds and they can take them from you.

02:40:34.000 And so I come on the air and say, well this takes your pension funds.

02:40:37.000 When a federal court rules that veterans above 65 no longer get health care, Uh, and uh, I go to the AP that tends to tell the truth, it's unfiltered, and I read the actual AP article where it says veterans won't get any more health care, and then I see it in the Austin American-Statesman a week later with a local spin saying, oh, there's been some changes that might make it a little tougher to get health care, but oh, this had to happen.

02:41:05.000 Yeah.

02:41:05.000 Okay, so when I read the statesman and it says, Perry signed a new bill, wherever you take Medicare or Medicaid, they'll take your house, but he says it's good.

02:41:14.000 I go to the Texas Legislature's website, I read the bill, and it basically says you won't have any private property ownership if you ever take a government handout.

02:41:23.000 See?

02:41:23.000 That's what we do here.

02:41:25.000 Does that answer your question?

02:41:26.000 Yes, sir.

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02:44:48.000 We're about to go to Hankin, Texas and others and a few final news stories.

02:44:52.000 But to Answer the UT college students' important question.

02:44:59.000 Don't believe anything I say, sir.

02:45:02.000 Check it out for yourself.

02:45:04.000 I mean, they told us campaign finance reform would stop dirty money in politics.

02:45:08.000 Well, it doubled the soft contributions that corporations can give.

02:45:12.000 That is the corrupting influence.

02:45:15.000 While it restricted First Amendment activities of groups in elections.

02:45:19.000 And who I can interview, by the way.

02:45:22.000 And so you can make up your own mind.

02:45:24.000 Is that a good reform?

02:45:25.000 Is that what they said it would do?

02:45:27.000 Two years ago they passed a medical privacy bill.

02:45:31.000 I read the bill.

02:45:32.000 Made all your medical records public.

02:45:35.000 Federalized all your different medical clinics where the feds have got computerized systems now and watch everything you do.

02:45:42.000 I mean that's what they do across the board.

02:45:46.000 I mean they said there wasn't a tips program to have you title on your neighbors and have the cable guy title on you.

02:45:51.000 They changed the name, doubled the funding.

02:45:55.000 This is what they do.

02:45:58.000 So this is the information we're covering here on this broadcast.

02:46:02.000 We look at the corruption of governments in the past, how they run scams, and we look at what's happening today.

02:46:07.000 I mean, take a story like a trillion bucks, it's 1.2 trillion actually, missing from the Pentagon over the last eight years.

02:46:15.000 There's no investigation, there's been a handful of news articles about The Defense Department admitting over a trillion's missing, we go read those articles.

02:46:22.000 Why isn't it top story?

02:46:24.000 Why isn't it top story that it's now admitted that those so-called bio-weapons trucks, trailers in Iraq, were for pumping up dirigibles, blimps, and the government knew that!

02:46:36.000 They have the purchase order from the Russians in the 80's.

02:46:39.000 They claim they were bio-weapons labs.

02:46:43.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Hank in Texas is up next.

02:46:48.000 Go ahead, Hank.

02:46:50.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:46:51.000 How you doing, sir?

02:46:51.000 Good.

02:46:53.000 I just wanted to let you know that apparently the police state is living well in San Antonio.

02:47:01.000 I just noticed one of their new secret police cars today.

02:47:05.000 You can hardly tell it's a police car.

02:47:07.000 It's dark green with black lettering on the side.

02:47:11.000 You have to be just about parallel or right next to the car to be able to see the San Antonio police.

02:47:18.000 No antennas that are visible and they're cruising the highways.

02:47:24.000 I wonder what that's about.

02:47:28.000 Well, look.

02:47:30.000 You build a prison society.

02:47:32.000 Prisons are the biggest part of our economy and the fastest growing.

02:47:37.000 And they need people in those prisons.

02:47:39.000 They need to expand their industry.

02:47:42.000 And it's going to get bigger and bigger, and they're going to go after more and more of us that are innocent.

02:47:47.000 And the cops are running the drugs, the prostitutes, everything.

02:47:51.000 They get caught all the time framing people.

02:47:53.000 A lot of the cops aren't bad, but they're compartmentalized and don't stand up against the corruption.

02:47:58.000 And it's system-wide.

02:48:02.000 It's all part of the larger takeover.

02:48:04.000 Can't find enough real criminals.

02:48:06.000 Now they have to sneak up on anybody they can, I guess.

02:48:09.000 And trump up some charge.

02:48:12.000 Well, look at New York.

02:48:12.000 The police are complaining.

02:48:13.000 They said they've been ordered to put as many people as they can in jail.

02:48:17.000 Pregnant women sit down on the sidewalk sick. 1.00

02:48:20.000 Well, anyway, maybe there's some people listening that will be on the lookout. 0.99

02:48:24.000 pedant you're a russet park in your own parking lot uh... stand out front your own barbershop you're fine

02:48:30.000 and that in the police of the toll crackdown squeeze everyone let 'em know

02:48:34.000 who's boss well anyway maybe there's some people listening that uh...

02:48:40.000 will be on the lookout

02:48:42.000 all right sir i really appreciate your call god bless you call man there's a lot of news we got to some we didn't

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