Alex Jones on the latest episode of Conspiracy Theories. Big Brother Media and Government cover-ups. Alex goes over the latest in the latest conspiracies and conspiracies involving the Federal Government and the New World Order.
00:00:22.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:26.000and now live from austin texas alex jones
00:00:37.000all right my friends another powerful broadcast lined up for you today as we
00:00:47.000chronicle the criminal activities of the global elite also known as the new world order
00:00:53.000We do have some guests coming up on the show a little bit later, and I'll be telling you about those a little bit later.
00:00:59.000A bunch of news in the offing that we need to go over as we track the New World Order.
00:01:09.000Websites being updated are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:01:16.000All three of the sites are different sites for different looks and different information.
00:01:22.000Yesterday I had a journalist on with his book, The Silent Invasion, and He's even put me in touch with some of the people, and we're going to be having some of the folks that are in the book on the show, some of the customs officials and other federal officers, witnesses to the feds pulling up, grabbing other federal officers who were never seen again.
00:01:50.000I mean, that's how corrupt this has gotten.
00:02:00.000And this was going on a year and a half ago when people in customs were trying to expose the government shipping in weapons, shipping in heroin, shipping in other forms of trash to destabilize our society.
00:02:16.000That was an amazing interview yesterday.
00:02:19.000Oh, but the Feds are back at it again.
00:02:21.000You know, this guy they grabbed who supposedly was going to cut the suspension cables on the Brooklyn Bridge.
00:03:00.000So what you have is the Feds have been caught mailing fake anthrax letters in a congressional study that was done.
00:03:08.000In 1999, remember all those powdered letters that got mailed to businesses and private businesses and government buildings and the feds then got lots of fear going and said, oh, we need more federal funding.
00:03:21.000And then it turned out the CIA actually sent some super weaponized anthrax for real in 2001 and Bush and his cabinet were on Cipro, the anthrax fighting antibiotic, months before, a month before anybody ever heard of a case of it.
00:04:25.000And the reason I got off into anthrax and fake letters and real letters is, you know, the feds are out there on chat rooms trying to create fears.
00:06:26.000The film documents dozens of confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism worldwide.
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00:08:33.000The Chief of Police of Houston, Texas has gone public saying that you cannot get a fair trial in Houston, that things are hopelessly corrupt, that the crime lab publicly is in the job of operating a criminal syndicate, framing everyone.
00:08:56.000You know, we've talked a lot about this because all over the state of Texas, and I see articles around the country with similar stories, but Texas lately it's been coming out in a particular way, a particularly large number of stories where they want to fill the prisons.
00:09:16.000They just go round up 40-something people.
00:09:22.000There's one witness, the undercover cop.
00:09:24.000Everybody gets 20 to 90 years in prison.
00:09:26.000Turns out later it's all totally fake and made up.
00:09:29.000They just drive out and pick you up off the street and say you're a drug dealer.
00:09:33.000The Houston Crime Lab has framed thousands publicly and they think it's funny that they plant DNA or make up DNA results or plant hair or fibers.
00:09:52.000I mean, you can get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt and you end up in jail for years once they get you into the courts.
00:10:00.000I mean, it makes Boss Hogg look like a choir boy.
00:10:07.000And, you know, this sounds incredible, but we read the article out of Massachusetts where the cop, the veteran cop, was at a party and somebody supposedly saw him smoke a cigarette, and it's an anonymous letter, and they fire him, and then the state says, uh, hey, you don't need to have witnesses.
00:10:26.000They don't need to sign their name to a complaint.
00:11:32.000Raising the specter of an attack on energy facilities in the Houston area, officials here said Monday.
00:11:39.000That information, which should not specify a target, an exact time, or a type of terrorist attack, was passed along to state officials.
00:11:47.000We get these reports on a regular basis, said an official with the Department of Homeland Security.
00:11:52.000We are currently in the process of assessing the credibility of the report concerning Texas.
00:11:56.000There's always these discussions of credibility, and we've got to be credible, and we've got to check it out.
00:12:02.000It came out in Capitol Hill Blue, and then Newsmax, and then the Associated Press, and then ABC News, and they tried to put a spin on it.
00:12:10.000But it is admitted fact that the White House ordered FBI and CIA to create, quote, fake terror alerts to generate public hysteria and fear, is what the White House memo said of the FBI and the CIA.
00:12:27.000Generate hysteria and fear in the public.
00:12:31.000Now that is totally illegal for you or I to do it.
00:12:35.000You know, try going into a theater and announcing fire, or try getting on the air and saying there's been a bio-attack, when there hasn't been.
00:12:44.000But see, we'd go to jail for that and we should, but not the government!
00:12:50.000Folks, in my film, The Road to Tyranny, we have footage from 2000.
00:12:56.000From early 2001 with fake bio-attacks in downtown Austin, fake nuclear spills, okay?
00:13:02.000They were shutting down parts of the city, shutting down hospitals, quarantining hundreds, and then they would quietly announce days later, oh, that was a drill you saw, that was part of a continuity of government drill.
00:13:14.000They've had them in Denver and Cleveland and New York and Miami and Chicago and all over the place, but now they announce generally, okay, we're going to have this big drill.
00:13:26.000And they announce it once or twice on the news and then all of a sudden cars are blowing up and down town.
00:13:59.000You know, it's like the capo of the mob in New Jersey drops by your little warehouse and says, look, you've got a nice mattress factory here.
00:14:15.000I'm not going to burn it down and I'm not going to beat your employees up or shoot them, but there's a guy across town who works for me and he's a little out of control, but I can make him back off if you'll just pay me, well, let's start with 10% of your gross receipts.
00:14:46.000How about I give you a couple of my boys who work here in the factory and overseas stuff, and maybe that'll get you caught up.
00:14:56.000Now, see, what is Homeland Security doing?
00:14:58.000Putting FBI, Special Forces in plainclothes in key infrastructure positions, private corporations, They are going to boost your taxes in a dozen areas to pay for all of this and they're saying if you don't do it, instead of Luigi or Franco or Jimmy the Bull or whoever,
00:15:24.000That's going to come get you if you don't follow orders.
00:15:48.000They got a gun to your head going, now do what we say, or Bin Laden's going to get you!
00:15:55.000And then we, again continuing the analogy, This mob boss or this mob captain says I'll protect you from Franco or Luigi if you just pay me 10% of your gross receipts and take a few of my boys on to work here for you to make sure you're paying up.
00:16:15.000You know, so they can sit there and become fat pigs playing dominoes while you and your family work.
00:16:22.000They're sitting there in your house, eating your food, and telling you to thank them, because they're going to stop the bad man from burning down your warehouse facility, where you've got a little factory making mattresses, or clothes, or canning tomatoes, whatever.
00:16:43.000But then, as the Capo walks out the door, you see him get in the car, and you see him get in the car with the guy he was telling he was going to attack you, but he's got some sway with him.
00:17:22.000We're trying to, you know, get accurate information.
00:17:26.000We only give you the best information about the terror attacks.
00:17:30.000We've got to make sure these threats are credible.
00:17:32.000And then, out of the other side of their mouth, they're telling people, give us fake Terror alerts produce false information.
00:17:41.000The White House gave orders to the Pentagon, the CIA, to produce evidence of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.
00:17:50.000And so, when our troops come along, the dirigible mobile trucks that are for pumping up artillery surveillance blimps, which our government has, which the British and the Russians sold to Saddam, By the way, it's come out now that our government bought some of the same systems, same trucks from the British.
00:18:35.000I heard one of the big national hosts saying that again yesterday.
00:18:40.000And by the way, folks, I also heard not just an afternoon show, but I heard a morning show on a different syndicator saying the exact words in the same order.
00:19:16.000When the real Trotskyites, the Fourth International, this was the National Post of Canada reporting, headline, Trotsky's ghost walks the halls of the White House, Trotskyites running the White House, gun grabbing, open borders, regulation, growth in government, secret police, wake up and see it for what it is.
00:19:37.000But it's bankers, it's not communists.
00:19:39.000They just use the communist model to consolidate your wealth and transfer it to themselves.
00:19:45.000So you've got mob bosses telling you, give up your rights or we're going to stick Bin Laden on you.
00:19:54.000And then it turns out they are so-called arrest members of Al-Qaeda and then months later they quietly release them or put them in witness protection plan.
00:20:02.000Because they're not even real Al-Qaeda.
00:20:04.000Al-Qaeda doesn't exist outside a sub-directorate of the Central Intelligence Agency.
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00:24:32.000And I kind of gave that long, meandering analogy of what organized, classical organized crime, the stereotypical pipe, In the big corrupt city system, better pay our group protection money or this loose cannon in our organization is going to burn down your business.
00:24:58.000And that's what Bin Laden is for the globalists.
00:25:00.000Oh, we're going to protect you from him, just let us run your lives.
00:25:04.000And here's the Houston Chronicle today.
00:25:12.000And then, you know, two dots, Chief, and there's a statement, Texas Justice Unfair.
00:25:17.000Now again, that's the headline, Chief.
00:25:20.000Texas Justice Unfair urges Crime Lab Court of Inquiry.
00:25:27.000Criminal defendants in Texas are at the mercy of prosecutors in an unfair system that emphasizes winning rather than justice.
00:25:36.000Houston Police Chief CEO Bradford said Monday, trial by ambush.
00:25:44.000That is a Texas criminal justice problem, the chief said.
00:25:48.000In a two-hour meeting with the Houston Chronicle editorial board, Bradford also said he believes there is sufficient probable cause for Harris County judges to convene a court of inquiry into And to publicly and independently investigate the entire Police Department Crime Lab, not just the troubled DNA portion.
00:26:13.000He distanced himself, however, from any direct responsibility for the problems at the lab where DNA tests have been suspended amid questions about their accuracy.
00:26:23.000Yeah, and the report by the legislature says that thousands of people were framed, okay?
00:26:31.000The lab will give a prosecutor, without even having samples, they'll just say, that person's blood's at the scene.
00:26:39.000And this got embarrassing for them, because people would have alibis, they'd be at football games, and the lab would be saying, oh, their blood's at the scene.
00:26:48.000It turned out they framed a bunch of innocent people, and again, it's the same way here in Texas in small towns.
00:26:54.000They'll just go out in a small town of 5,000, they'll arrest 45, 50 people, Charge them all for drugs, give them twenty to ninety years apiece, no drugs are found, all in the words of a corrupt cop who's now going to go to prison.
00:27:09.000Now, it's good that the police chief's doing this, and some will say he's not taking responsibility.
00:27:15.000Well, that crime lab has been doing this since before he got into office, by the way.
00:27:20.000And that's what a chief's supposed to do, is call for an investigation and say it's corrupt.
00:27:26.000And when he did this, of course, a few weeks ago, people tried to say, oh, he's bad.
00:27:30.000And now the police are attacking him, saying he needs to go.
00:27:41.000Just keep framing the innocent people.
00:27:45.000Bradford advocated major changes in criminal prosecution that he said would make the justice system More fair.
00:27:52.000And we'll tell you more about that coming up later in the show.
00:27:58.000This is the type of news story I see every day around the country.
00:28:01.000I mean, for those that don't know, I'm sure you've heard about Massachusetts, the former head of the Senate, and he's now the head of a major university.
00:28:15.000His brother was a FBI, quote, informant, actually a mob boss.
00:28:20.000carrying out all these different uh... major crime syndicate operations of course it's wasp mob they're not italian so you never hear about it and uh... when uh... when it came out the FBI was using the crime syndicates and the FBI was actually the top of organized crime that's when they went after his brother and now they're trying to go after the head of the university former head of the senate saying he's hiding them And the head of the university is now saying they're trying to kill him and his brother, that it's a cover-up of their corruption.
00:28:56.000Well, the FBI has already been caught and convicted of running the informants, running murder for hire, running cocaine and heroin nationwide in a national syndicate.
00:29:05.000You want evidence of this, though, going back into the 50s?
00:30:56.000it's all about getting convictions it's Not about carrying out justice.
00:31:00.000Well, yeah, that's criminal to frame people.
00:31:03.000In fact, bearing false witness is about as bad as it gets, ladies and gentlemen.
00:31:07.000But they admit that the police now call testifying, test-a-lying, or lie-a-testing.
00:31:16.000And they just get up there, the courts have ruled they can lie on the stand, but the general public isn't aware of this.
00:31:24.000And so all over Texas these articles are coming out from Dallas to Houston to Tulia to Austin where they lie and the courts are corrupt and they deal the drugs and they run the prostitutes and this is the government that's going to run our lives and the federal government then when cities get caught in corruption comes in and federalizes things as the US attorneys giving the orders over the police departments and controlling them with federal funds and The Feds just do a better job of corruption.
00:32:42.000The Colorado Springs Gazette is reporting, the headline, Northcom makes strong progress.
00:32:51.000Now that's The organization merged with FEMA to form the Department of Homeland Security, and they had announced years before, 9-1-1, that massive terror attacks would happen, they would take over our lives, they would put troops on the streets, they would make secret arrests, special forces would take out the terrorists without trials, and that they would set up a New World Order, as the CFR Commission, chaired by a Mr. Rudman,
00:33:33.000Northern Command Military's Homeland Defense Nerve Center is streaming towards full operation while its civilian counterpart founders a member of Congress said Friday.
00:34:45.000Well, it was publicly stated by UNESCO and Department of Education, the former head of policy, Department of Education, on this show many times.
00:34:53.000It's their publicly stated goal to dumb your kids down.
00:34:56.000Last Friday, I remember they said, quote, the family's the enemy, it's a disease, must be eradicated.
00:35:19.000But see, it's never for what the stated goal is, so they claim it fails for its stated goal, and always expand it, while the unstated goal's a police state, centralization of control, herding us into the compact cities, the cashless society control grid, while all that's being set up.
00:35:36.000The Department of Homeland Security, the civilian agency, charged!
00:35:45.000The Department of Homeland Security, the civilian agency, charged with protecting the nation, hasn't produced a single picture of where... Okay, it goes on.
00:35:55.000I need to get my light more erected on this story.
00:35:58.000My lamp fell out of its housing and slid down.
00:36:04.000The Department of Homeland Security, the civilian agency charged with protecting the nation, hasn't produced a single picture of where terrorists might strike, and won't for months.
00:36:37.000Without that picture, leaders can't decide where to spend scarce money and what needs most protection to harm in Democrat California.
00:36:45.000For instance, she said, the focus has been on making airliners safe and less attention and money has gone to increasing port security.
00:36:52.000Well, they don't want the cocaine and heroin to stop flowing in, lady.
00:36:56.000In places, we are much safer, but we still lack an overall strategy to make the whole country safe.
00:37:02.000Well, don't worry, they've announced RFID tags to go in the food, a national ID card to have a job, troops in the factories and on the streets, secret police everywhere.
00:37:32.000Tearaway children as young as Tim will be electronically tagged under government plans to crack down on a nationwide epidemic of youth crime.
00:37:39.000Youngsters responsible for terrorizing see their terrorists.
00:37:43.000Scottish communities will be forced to wear the tags to prevent them from leaving their homes at night under the proposals.
00:37:50.000And yes, it's been proposed in past articles to put chips in them, by the way.
00:37:54.000The Bureau of Prisons in California signed a deal to implant their prisoners.
00:38:57.000But they come out learning all the tricks of the trade, how to be criminals, and it's great universities of crime.
00:39:04.000The controversial move is part of Scottish executive campaign against the rising tide of petty crime And any social behavior perpetrated by the under-16s.
00:39:14.000Now, of course, they've taken guns all over the country, all over the United Kingdom, and the crime rate went from being the lowest next to Switzerland in the world, to being the most crime-ridden country in the industrialized world.
00:39:35.000Now, what the media does is they'll go, England's much safer than America, and they'll focus into New York City, in the worst ward, and use that statistic to put it up against England, and say that England's safer.
00:40:02.000I mean, here in Texas, folks, We don't have a lot of home invasion unless somebody's gone and doesn't have a dog.
00:40:12.000I mean, crooks, I'll tell you, they don't come in your house in Texas.
00:40:15.000I mean, in New York, they'll bust in with a knife or gun right in front of you because people don't have guns.
00:40:20.000And they will give you a lot of time in prison if you hide a gun and defend yourself.
00:40:25.000Even if you're being physically attacked in your own home.
00:40:29.000But, I mean, I can't imagine what it would be like sleeping in my house Without firearms and bands of crackheads and heroin heads running around, busting down doors, raping and killing.
00:41:30.000And if I see somebody in my car, I'm going to go out and I'm going to... I don't know.
00:41:34.000I don't want the trouble of killing them.
00:41:35.000I'll probably just tell them to get on the ground.
00:41:36.000If they try something with a weapon, I'll probably shoot them.
00:41:39.000Just because I don't want the hassle, but...
00:41:42.000Plus, I don't really know if somebody just robbing my car needs to die.
00:41:46.000But, that is legal and lawful, and if you feel threatened in state law, go ahead and do it, and I'll back you.
00:41:53.000But, I will tell you, you step foot in my house, or try to get in my house, or I catch you trying to break in my window or something, I will visually look at you and make sure it's not somebody I know, and I will defend my family.
00:42:09.000I don't want to get off into meandering discussions.
00:42:55.000Scottish executive is now proposing the children's hearing should have the right to order that under 16's be tagged to curb their offending behavior.
00:43:03.000This would bring Scotland in line with England and Wales where 4,000 10 to 15 year olds have been tagged since 2001.
00:43:13.000In Scotland, the tagging of a child would be considered in cases where the youngster had already broken an antisocial behavior order.
00:43:33.000I mean, I was never a big potty mouth, but we certainly would go play baseball after school in a field in the neighborhood, and there were fistfights almost every couple weeks.
00:43:49.000I wasn't always involved in them, but fistfights did take place.
00:44:05.000I don't want to keep going on with this.
00:44:08.000I mean, a kid, I talked about it yesterday, his dad is an officer in the army over in Iraq and he drew a picture of his dad with an M16 and he was detained, police came, they want to put the kid on drugs, he's been expelled, can't go back to school until he's on drugs because they say that he's hyper and he drew a picture of a gun and he may get people and this is the new America, folks.
00:44:38.000So, the stuff you and I did as kids, as children, is now punishable by tagging and jail, and this is happening here, too.
00:44:49.000I mean, I remember when I was growing up, if, you know, we'd be getting in fist fights, and adults would, you know, stop a car, look at what we were doing, and, you know, if it wasn't too serious, they'd just drive off.
00:45:03.000I mean, obviously, if you're adults bashing each other's I don't know though, growing up they wouldn't even call the police for stuff like that.
00:45:16.000I don't know, but I know this, we didn't have all the school shootings and all the problems, because people would work it out in a fist fight.
00:45:24.000And if the coaches in school caught you fighting, they'd say, okay, you've had your fight, but they'd stand there and let you fight.
00:45:31.000They go, okay, now that you're done fighting, how about we go run until you puke your guts out?
00:45:37.000I got in a few fights, not a lot of fights, and I remember getting walked out to the football stadium around the track, and the coach sitting there drinking lemonade, filling out, doing test scores, you know, the all-talk classes.
00:45:54.000I remember running around the track for an hour, hour and a half, With the coach yelling faster every time we rounded the bend and scoring homework assignments.
00:46:06.000And you didn't want to get in a fight again after you had... Oh, and then generally, they would catch you doing something small the next time and they'd take you in and give you four or five swats.
00:46:19.000You'd have a big ol' bruise across your hind end.
00:46:23.000And by the time I was a freshman in high school, I really wasn't into fighting anymore.
00:47:19.000Now, there was a story last year in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, early 2002, where they had a recall going against a council member, and the city manager called for martial law in a public meeting.
00:47:33.000And she said in the article, this was in a city council meeting, this is out in the open, this is how delusional they've gotten, she said, maybe we need martial law.
00:47:40.000We've had discussions, she said, about martial law in the past, maybe it's time for that now.
00:47:46.000Of course, the Feds got very upset and others got very upset.
00:47:48.000You're not supposed to talk about that in the council room in front of the citizens.
00:47:59.000But now they're saying that it's despicable, it may be illegal, that it's a threat to democracy.
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00:52:06.000This situation with the recall of criminal Davis.
00:52:10.000This is a guy who got caught with Enron and others.
00:52:14.000Buying a megawatt of power for $137, that was on average, according to Sacramento Bee, and then selling it back to the energy giant for $1 a megawatt, over and over again, every day, in just tens of thousands of purchases of megawatts.
00:52:36.000I mean, just blatantly criminal, and the head of the army, Mr. White, who now had to leave, he gave legislators a tour of fake computers, hooked up to fake trading systems, it wasn't even a real trading system, I mean, just total fraud, maximum financial corruption, just unbelievable, and of course nothing's happened.
00:52:58.000It's admitted, it's totally criminal, it dwarfs what Martha Stewart may have done By about, in terms of money, a hundred million to one.
00:53:09.000I mean, the scams that are being run in derivatives and in speculations with the currency is in the tens of trillions every day.
00:53:17.000Multi-trillion is just here in the U.S.
00:53:19.000And there'll be no discussion of that.
00:53:34.000This is a story here out of the Sacramento Bee as well.
00:53:38.000The State Attorney General calls efforts to recall Governor Gray Davis a profound threat to democracy.
00:53:45.000And another government official in this article saying this may be illegal.
00:53:49.000The Lieutenant Governor calls it an expensive perversion.
00:53:53.000Oh yes, it's a perversion to recall criminals.
00:53:56.000Of the recall process, the State Treasurer describes it as an odious use of the system One after another, at the urging of labor leaders who support the governor, five of Davis' fellow Democratic officeholders said last week they don't intend to run should a recall make the ballot.
00:54:14.000Senator Dianne Feinstein added her name to the list.
00:54:16.000I am not a candidate, said Feinstein, who appeared with Davis at ceremonies to open a BART extension to San Francisco's International Airport.
00:54:25.000So if Davis faces recall, who would be alternatives B?
00:54:29.000The possibilities include some of the usual suspects including the man who lost to Davis last time.
00:54:35.000The list of potential governors also includes the Terminator.
00:54:38.000And Meathead and not everyone at the Capitol is convinced the Democrats who bowed out last week would resist the temptation to run.
00:54:47.000Recall Drive has yet to collect hundreds of thousands of signatures of voter support needed to qualify for what would be a history-making election this fall or next spring.
00:55:05.000When they had propositions to control their borders and not give all this welfare to felons, illegal aliens, the governor just said, I don't care what you say, we're not following it, ha ha ha.
00:55:15.000Still there is now a swarm of public figures with gubernatorial ambitions who are hurriedly polling and strategizing.
00:55:23.000And we'll take some calls and I'll get more into this article as well in the next hour.
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00:59:10.000I tell you what, that tape speaks to everybody.
00:59:14.000Someone who watches that who's a Christian, they come right back and say, I can't believe they say Christians are terrorists.
00:59:21.000And I said, does it sound like the book Revelations?
00:59:24.000You talk to someone who watches the news, and all of a sudden, You know, I heard this, I heard that part, I heard that, and all of a sudden the thoughts are connected.
00:59:31.000Yeah, so what happens is, the reason The Road to Tyranny is so powerful is they've already heard everything that's in it, they just never saw it all together.
00:59:40.000And that's why the film, in fact you just hit on something that I never seem to articulate but I've thought of many times, a much more cogent, intelligent, insightful, Revelations when I'm not on the air, but what you just said is something I've thought many times.
00:59:53.000The film, that film is so powerful, because it's their words, it's their statements, it's stuff that everybody has already seen or heard, because we put it all together.
01:00:03.000And it's not Alex's opinion, it's what they say, it's the news, it's what's out there in your face, and it is so heavily documented.
01:00:11.000I've gone in and I've looked at, when I first heard this, I mean, actually I was stationed down at Berkshire Mariforce Base, I was in the 12th Tactical Intelligence Squadron, You're familiar with that.
01:00:21.000Well, now Bergstrom is the airport, but my cousin's there merging the Army with the police right now.
01:00:30.000I tell you what, I was in Air Force Intelligence on 9-1-1.
01:00:35.000I'm watching the TV and I'm thinking, this is absolutely impossible.
01:00:39.000There's absolutely no way this could happen without them letting it happen or being part of it.
01:00:43.000That's when I went on a search and that's when I found you.
01:00:45.000And I tell you what, I like to tell it just like it is.
01:00:50.000There's absolutely no way that that could happen.
01:00:51.000I mean, when you showed the one, the golfer on the airplane, and they were up behind him in what I believe was seven minutes, but yet we have one of the big jumbo jet airliners flying around for an hour.
01:01:15.000I want you to talk more about working in Air Force Intelligence and Uh, how you instinctively knew the 9-1-1 story was a fraud and you saw all the evidence.
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01:04:51.000Paul, I was talking to a fella in Ohio, and you were saying that you were an Air Force intelligence.
01:05:06.000During 9-1-1 or that you had been in an Air Force Intelligence so understood how these operations worked and going over the information with NORAD and that you instinctively knew something was wrong.
01:05:20.000What went through your mind on September 11th and then researching the information and finding out for yourself what's it been like for you?
01:05:35.000Radar systems that they have all around this country, they know everything that's in the air.
01:05:39.000When something's coming in from out of the country, they have lines, certain sized objects, once they cross a certain line, they have to scramble planes.
01:05:49.000Once they lose contact with a plane, any plane up in the air, they have to scramble.
01:05:57.000There's just absolutely no way that a jumbo jet could, they could turn off their transponders, And not be followed within 10 minutes.
01:06:07.000There are, they have people, the Air Force pilots, are sitting there in their suits, the planes running, just waiting for something like this to happen all over the country.
01:06:17.000And again, with the golfer Payne Stewart, they launched planes within 7-8 minutes, had the aircraft surrounded by three planes within 18 minutes.
01:06:26.000They followed it for about an hour until it crashed in the Midwest.
01:06:30.000And that had happened because of depressurization.
01:07:43.000A big national newspaper, one of the big papers in Portugal, the news in Portugal covered a bizarre, they said 70 plus hour Press conference with hundreds of military men, generals, troops from our country, captains, generals, retired, naval aviators, air force aviators, saying no one could pull this off but the U.S.
01:08:11.000And they went over all the evidence for 70 plus hours with the Portuguese and Spanish and French media there, and nothing in our news about it.
01:08:20.000Yeah, I just went over the evidence for hour after hour after hour after hour with witness after witness after witness, so you're not the only one understanding this.
01:08:31.000You know, and the thing is, that's one aspect of 9-1-1 or the tyranny, but if you watch it, after you're done watching that movie, it's decision time.
01:08:40.000I mean, there's just no two ways about it.
01:08:42.000You're either going to go into fantasy land, pull the cover over your eyes, or else you're going to be a man and stand up.
01:08:48.000I mean, there's just no two ways about it.
01:08:50.000Well, I have to tell you that we spend more time on the planes and the NORAD stand-down.
01:08:56.000Ian Masters of Terror, Part 2 of the Road to Tyranny, but people made whole films.
01:09:04.000One was made for Canadian television, we've had the guest on, just about the NORAD stand-down, and that right there.
01:09:10.000Then you have the hijackers trained at U.S.
01:09:13.000You have their houses and cars and credit cards paid for by the government.
01:09:17.000You have their passports fluttering down from the sky, unburned, at two of the crash sites in Pennsylvania and New York.
01:09:24.000You have the head of Pakistani intelligence wiring $100,000 at Muhammad Ata, his second trip in his life to the U.S.
01:09:32.000Two days before 9-1-1, he's meeting with the White House and the heads of the Senate.
01:09:37.000uh... intelligence committees I mean it's incredible and you got Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco told not to fly, Ashcold told not to fly Joint Chiefs of Staff told not to fly and then they admit all this and then shut up later because that shows it's a level even above these guys.
01:09:52.000Yeah and the thing is that's just the start of it when you look into Oklahoma City bombing and when you see the videotapes of the news broadcast of them removing bombs from the building And the seismographs and the eyewitnesses and no BATF in the building.
01:10:06.000Yeah, but Timothy McVeigh could not have put those bombs in that building.
01:11:23.000I work with a large automotive supplier, and to give you an idea of the level, they're going to put these in every part.
01:11:29.000Right now, the whole plant where I've been working, they're wired for all of the terminals to go throughout the plant.
01:11:35.000They're putting them on pallets at this level.
01:11:38.000The next phase is, well, the end phase is, they're going to put them on every part that comes in so that when the part's actually tested, it's verified that all the information from that ID tag is sent to a large database up in Toronto, Canada.
01:11:52.000Then what happens is, once it arrives at the next plant, they scan the entire pallet, the whole thing at one time.
01:11:58.000They verify that all those parts have been tested and all those parts are going through all the procedures, and then We assembled parts using those and it's all, you know, complete confirmation everything's been tested.
01:12:11.000It goes all the way to where when something arises, they scan it and they say that that part was tested and then they know that they can put it on the car.
01:12:23.000Eventually, if you have a knock on your car, that part will then void your warranty as you're driving and they're claiming that this is going to stop all the chop shops, They're going to have complete control over your car.
01:12:37.000Well, they already have transponders in your car that are red as you go down the road.
01:13:39.000They were running a program that seemed to be criticizing Bush over the Iraq War, so that kind of made it interesting, but I didn't really listen to enough of it to get the whole gist.
01:13:49.000So they gave out an 800 number that I called later, and they kept referring to themselves as Alternative Radio.
01:13:59.000That's what we normally refer to shortwave as, is alternative radio, but we understand that to mean there are programs like yours and others of the same nature.
01:14:11.000So I called the 800 number out of curiosity to see if I could get a program schedule.
01:14:17.000It's Radio for Peace International out of Costa Rica.
01:14:23.000Yeah, who by the way, the evidence shows, and one of their heads has attacked me personally, and it looks like they're the ones that have done some jamming before.
01:14:32.000Probably, but my point is that they're now using the term alternative radio, and that's going to fake some people, you know, briefly, but not long.
01:14:42.000But they're trying to insert a new meaning for the term alternative radio.
01:14:48.000See, they control both sides of the paradigm.
01:14:51.000The phony right-wing can point at the liberals and go, see, they're wrong, they're against the war, they're pro-UN, pro-New World Order, and then they'll say, we're conservative, we're for the New World Order, it's just different flavors of the same thing, but then the key liberals, the Hillarys, the Chuckie Schumers, they vote for the war.
01:15:08.000See, so it's only a rhetorical fight, whereas the war is wrong, they don't criticize the war for the right reasons, they don't reach out to the To the real Americans, black, white, it doesn't matter, who understand the real paradigm, they just reach out to the dumbed-down masses.
01:15:29.000But let me give you a really good example of mind control.
01:15:33.000I went and saw a late-night edition of The Hulk last night.
01:15:37.000And the bad guy in the movie, he is anti-world government.
01:16:09.000They'll have some toothless Klan guy up there calling black people all these horrible names, then he'll add to it, by the way, it's a New World Order.
01:16:18.000And he'll speak out against the New World Order and taxes and regulation in the UN.
01:16:24.000So now, when... I mean, they would never have me on one of those shows, because I bring people together to defeat the New World Order, to expose the threat.
01:16:31.000But no, they'll have some unsavory person out there saying similar things.
01:16:37.000And most of those Klan guys that are on TV, we later found out, are federal agents.
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01:20:59.000He's a retired and former senior CIA analyst who was assigned to Ronald Reagan's White House, one of his chief advisors.
01:21:05.000Tell you how fake the war was, all the lies, the corruption.
01:21:08.000One of the good guys that's gone public with the information and everything he's said now has come out in the mainstream news from when we had him on before the war and during the war.
01:21:17.000Let's go ahead and go to Richard in Colorado.
01:21:26.000I just wanted to let you know, I don't know if you heard or not, but there's a place in Iowa, some Federal Land Army Corps of Engineers, they want to donate, or I should say sell.
01:21:43.000Well, I've seen the reports and You notice that it's okay for the government to give it to the Harry Potter Wiccans or the Muslims or anybody but Christians?
01:21:56.000Well, I mean, you know, that's nothing compared to creating Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and then training them at U.S.
01:22:02.000military bases and paying for their houses, their cars, and credit cards before 9-1-1 and blocking FBI from arresting them, but yeah, it's pretty bad.
01:22:24.000As a matter of fact, on the other program I heard it on, the host of the show, he's going to go to Iowa City, Iowa, and have a town hall meeting.
01:22:37.000Yeah, in a way it's kind of a... Yeah, that's the same person I hear saying that, still reporting that the mobile weapons labs are over there and are going to get us in Iraq.
01:22:46.000See, the neocons will take some issue that has some importance, but is dwarfed by all these other issues.
01:22:53.000I heard that same host on Monday saying Harry Potter's good, and it's not the occult, and it's not a problem.
01:22:59.000Oh yeah, they just released it on the summer solstice, folks.
01:23:02.000I mean, come on, if you can't see that, you're blind.
01:23:29.000I had one of the big syndicators come to me, like four years ago, and offer me a million bucks, okay?
01:23:35.000Like $350-something thousand to sign the contract.
01:23:38.000If I got ratings on four of the 15 stations, which I was guaranteed to get, that was already there at the stations, then I would get $700,000 additional.
01:23:45.000It was over a million in the first year.
01:23:51.000And I had lawyers look at the contract.
01:24:04.000I mean, don't think somebody's on 300 radio stations and not controlled.
01:24:09.000Okay, so they just buy these people off.
01:24:11.000These people sell out their soul and their country for all the money they can get.
01:24:15.000Yeah, and then they'll talk about, don't take the Ten Commandments down, or gun control's dumb, but then they won't go after Bush for being the biggest gun grabber of them all, see?
01:24:26.000Or they'll say, put anybody that disagrees with the government in a prison camp.
01:24:31.000Well, yeah, that was kind of my next thing I wanted to hit on.
01:24:35.000I ordered some videos of yours and the book, and I've been letting friends know about tuning into your show and what it's all about.
01:24:45.000They look at me like I'm crazy and then one of my neighbors told me, he says, yeah I listened to that Alex Jones guy and I called the FBI and I said, what do you mean you called the FBI?
01:25:32.000We talk about real issues here, but oh, that's crazy, I'm gonna call the FBI.
01:25:38.000What did you say to this nutcase when he said that?
01:25:40.000Basically, about the First Amendment, I said, oh, it's okay for you to practice your First Amendment right, but you want to shut up Alex Jones.
01:25:50.000Oh, it's the typical BS, you know, well, if you don't like living in this country, you know, why don't you go move somewhere else?
01:25:57.000So protesting and demonstrating and being informed is bad and I should be, did he say I should be arrested or what did he say?
01:26:04.000Well, you know, I'm sure he would be all for that if he's going to, you know, he told me he called the FBI, so what did he call the FBI for?
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01:27:47.000I know that we have a bunch of callers holding.
01:28:36.000He talked about fake intelligence, which has now all been proven, with the Vice President at the CIA basically ordering him to lie, ordering him to put out fake terror alerts.
01:28:50.000But Ray, I wanted to bring you up, but I have a caller, and I get this now, I hear this about once a week, in Colorado, one of our listeners there, and he told his neighbor to listen, his neighbor tuned in and heard the show and called the FBI on me.
01:29:06.000Of course, nothing ever happened, but there have been confirmed cases of this in a couple newspapers.
01:29:10.000Where people think that criticizing corruption in the executive branch is illegal, there's a national talk show host who has a show on MSNBC on the weekend who calls for anyone disagreeing with the government, he's Michael Savage, being put in a quote, work camp, having their assets taken.
01:29:26.000The Deputy Attorney General in California said protesting may be illegal two weeks ago in a quote on television, and it was then quoted in the Oakland Tribune.
01:29:40.000He said that protesting the war helps terrorists.
01:30:08.000I was born in August of 1939, and that was a key month in the history of Germany.
01:30:18.000I know a lot about it because I've looked into what happened in that month, and that was of course the month before the invasion of Poland and the start of World War II.
01:30:28.000What happened then was the most highly educated populace of Europe, of the world at that time, was drummed into submission by fear and by fear of speaking out, by fear of saying, it's wrong what you've just done to my Jewish neighbor.
01:30:49.000And if we inculcate that kind of mindset into our citizenry, and we've lost it all.
01:30:55.000So this is even more incentive for folks like you and me and for others to speak out, speak out now, and speak out strongly.
01:32:32.000Ray, I just wanted to illustrate that because I hear this national talk show host here locally in Austin say every day, I tune in probably ten times, I've heard it five times, anyone that disagrees with the government should be arrested and put in a camp.
01:32:44.000Are you aware of what Michael Savage is saying?
01:32:46.000No, I'm afraid I'm allergic to listening to those things, Alex.
01:32:52.000I'm not aware of it, but I'm not surprised.
01:32:54.000Did you see the Reuters story about how they're going to build an execution chamber at Camp X-Ray?
01:34:01.000Dana Priest in the Washington Post did a very big article just before Christmas.
01:34:05.000So these things are very disquieting and again... He talked to the CIA section chief in the Middle East and he told him, it said off the record, that the real people they torture, they don't fly to Camp X-Ray, they fly them to to uh... egypt and uh... to some of the other allies over
01:34:21.000their quote where they can torture them and threaten their families and i have fox
01:34:26.000on on on tape with with government officials and others
01:34:29.000uh... on fox news saying uh... you know we should torture their kids to so that this
01:34:59.000But let's go back and recap and pick your expertise on this.
01:35:03.000Ray McGovern, 27 years, senior analyst, of course, advisor to Ronald Reagan and others.
01:35:11.000You documented on this show that it was a bunch of made-up intel and fraud from people in and out of intelligence, and of course you worked and did intelligence on Iraq when you were advising the White House in the 80s, but what about these blimp-filling trucks that the British sold The Iraqis and the Russians did too.
01:35:32.000It turns out our government has actually bought a bunch of these trucks from the British.
01:35:35.000They're for pumping up hydrogen balloons.
01:35:46.000Well, the comment, Alex, is that this is an incredibly clever, some might say diabolically clever, PR-oriented regime here.
01:35:58.000The initial reports come out as you describe them, and people are most impressed by what they hear first.
01:36:06.000If there's a disclaimer later, and, well, those weren't really trucks for biological warfare, they were something else, they conveniently kind of blot that from their consciousness.
01:36:15.000And so the American people are incredibly misled on this whole nexus of events.
01:36:21.000You know, this business where the President was told about these two trailers and he's in Poland and he says, well, there you go, there's weapons of mass destruction.
01:36:30.000That was so strange that I call that the President's Polish joke.
01:36:38.000It's really beyond belief that he would say, well, there you go, these two trailers, weapons of mass destruction.
01:36:44.000Well, we've got the memo out of the African country.
01:36:46.000Turns out the thing was manufactured out of whole cloth.
01:36:49.000It was just a fake document of supposed transfers of nuclear materials to Saddam.
01:36:54.000Then you have the dossier that Powell holds up as evidence at the UN.
01:37:15.000Alex, the forgery is the most interesting and the most unequivocal demonstration of what's going on here.
01:37:22.000People can quibble, you know, they can say that people have different interpretations of this or that piece of evidence, but a forgery is a forgery, and the U.S.
01:37:31.000government has admitted That a forgery was used to persuade our elected representatives to vote to authorize the president to launch an unprovoked war.
01:38:41.000He reported that to various and sundry and it sort of seemed to die a natural death until, until the end of the summer when the decision had been made to make war.
01:38:54.000To make war, it's nice to have a Congressional resolution that lets you do that.
01:39:17.000Yeah, when you think of what other people have been impeached for, Like sexual dalliances in the White House and almost impeached for a third-rate burglary.
01:39:30.000How does it stand up when the President and his senior advisors... Well, sir, we have another forgery in the LA Times.
01:39:39.000The London Guardian have reported it's admitted.
01:39:42.000I'm sure you know more about Jane's Weapons Encyclopedias than I do, but I actually take some of their general books.
01:39:49.000I don't have the entire, on disk, every weapon in the world, or weapon component system.
01:39:55.000I don't have the thing that costs $10,000.
01:39:59.000But our troops do, and they admit that all colonel and above officers have that, that they've been briefed that they knew what those trucks were.
01:40:07.000Within hours, they were marked British serial numbers, directions.
01:40:11.000That's why they wouldn't show close-up video inside those trucks.
01:41:37.000Now they want to go into Syria, Iran, but the big one, and I want to get your analytical comments on this.
01:41:44.000It's very important, or your analysis of it.
01:41:48.000Am I correct in saying, two months ago, when Rumsfeld leaked the battle plan to attack North Korea, that he leaked that to escalate tensions, to get North Korea to do something stupid, just like the ten-part plan to get the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor?
01:42:38.000that you're right to focus on north korea because that's the one
01:42:42.000place where we have we don't have a clue I mean, there isn't anybody that I know that pretends to understand what's going on within that leadership.
01:42:50.000All I know is usually when they catch a boat of North Korean military out of their waters, most of the time they all take cyanide.
01:43:03.000So, what's happening there now with the U.S.
01:43:05.000withdrawing from the front lines, if I were a North Korean, I would say, well, hmm, looks like the U.S.
01:43:14.000isn't going to defend as it usually has, so there'd be a tripwire before they have to use nuclear weapons.
01:43:21.000Looks like they're just reconciled to using nuclear weapons as soon as there's a real threat, so we better beef up our own nuclear deterrent before they do that.
01:43:43.000So problem, reaction, solution, create this world arms race, and then the government itself and the officials arm the so-called axis of evil worldwide.
01:43:56.000No, yeah, but I mean, when you look at what Eisenhower said as he left, you know, beware.
01:44:02.000It's just amazing that the country can allow this to happen.
01:44:07.000I have a bedrock faith, though, in the American people, and I think that you can fool some of the people some of the time, and I think probably as many people as are going to be fooled now by this administration have been, and that we're sort of recooling them back as word leaks out that we've been ahead.
01:44:25.000I'm a conservative, and I see conservatives finally waking up to Bush.
01:44:31.000Well, I think conservatives are the people we have to depend on here because if they stand for anything, they stand for the values for which we were created and for which we were created as a country.
01:44:42.000And those values have to do with telling the truth.
01:44:47.000Can you stay with us and take some calls?
01:44:49.000Alright folks, I know some of you were holding before I got on, but if you would, have a comment for him and you can make any other comments you want.
01:44:55.000We'll come back and talk to Garfield and Brian and Tim and others.
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01:48:25.000All right, folks, we're back live with Ray McGovern, a 27-year veteran analyst working at the Central Intelligence Agency.
01:48:34.000He worked at the most senior levels of intelligence and policy in Washington, and he's part of an organization, Veterans, who are for a little bit more sanity, and we're honored to have him on the show today.
01:48:52.000Again, ladies and gentlemen, he is part of an organization called Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
01:49:07.000Ray, before I go to some of these calls, I know there's a lot of information you have.
01:49:11.000Any other lies or corruption points you'd like to cover concerning the upcoming, and I've been told by family in the military, the upcoming set invasion Yeah, that much is clear.
01:49:22.000Syria and another key piece of evidence that just came out, special forces were already
01:49:28.000in Iraq a month or two before the invasion and that ultimatum, that 48 hours, all of
01:49:35.000that was nothing but pure theater. Any comments on this?
01:49:38.000Yeah, that much is clear. As a matter of fact, they were in there looking for weapons of
01:49:42.000mass destruction of all things and cleared the first 30 or 40 sites before the war actually
01:49:49.000So, yeah, it was made clear even when somebody asked one of the senior officials, suppose Saddam did go away?
01:50:01.000And the answer was, well, we still need to go in there and clean stuff out.
01:50:06.000So the idea was, The decision was made last summer to occupy and take control of Iraq.
01:50:13.000Well, how does PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, fit in?
01:50:17.000You know, I read one of their documents where they say that Cheney wrote that, oh, Saddam's not a threat, he's a pretext to get the oil, he sees Iraq as a military base.
01:50:26.000I mean, we have premeditated admissions of what this war was really about.
01:50:31.000Well, I'm really glad you mentioned that, Alex, because if people are really interested in that, all they need to do is go on the web.
01:50:37.000It's the Project for a New American Century.
01:50:41.000And those documents go back to 1992, when Wolfowitz wrote what was called the Defense Posture Statement.
01:50:58.000And so, once you've read that, you'll be able to understand, and you won't be so confused about the different rationales that have been adduced.
01:51:06.000And Ray, this is where it really gets weird.
01:51:08.000The National Post and the Washington Post have both written about how most of the neocons are really former Trotskyites, or their parents were Trotskyites, and then you've got them following also this economist Strauss, who was for dictatorships.
01:51:24.000So we've got a fascist Well, the bottom line is that they're real ideologues.
01:51:29.000people in the fourth international as the other founders, just sounds like they like tyranny, period.
01:51:34.000I mean, why do you have this bizarre brainchild in fascism and communism, creating the neocon movement?
01:51:41.000Well, the bottom line is that they're real ideologues.
01:51:46.000They know what's best for us all, and they dovetail very nicely with the folks in Israel,
01:51:53.000who also know what's best for the world.
01:51:55.000As a matter of fact, most of these folks, Doug Feith and Wolfowitz and those folks, they have actually worked for the Israeli government as well as for ours.
01:52:04.000They've written position papers for Netanyahu and others.
01:52:37.000We're really honored to have you, and I promise we'll go to Tim and Garfield and Brian and everybody else has been patiently holding.
01:52:44.000Just Ray's an incredible guy, and he's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart, and he's got really good information, because I've already checked it all out myself.
01:54:36.000And now the ethnic cleansing is continuing.
01:54:41.000Ray, the comments I just made, and I have the articles here in front of me.
01:54:44.000We'll mention them a little bit later, and we're about to go to the calls, but does that anger you that children who pick up cluster bombs and blow fingers off, our troops won't give them treatment?
01:54:55.000Yeah, I feel incredibly angry, Alex, not only at what's going on, but at what's being done, not only to these children, to the Iraqis, but what's being done to the souls of our troops.
01:55:57.000I mean, what's really, really difficult for me to understand is the U.S.
01:56:01.000refusal to allow the very people who know everything there is to know about Iraqi weaponry, where it is, how it's made, how it's procured, the scientists they know, why don't they let them back if they're interested in finding this stuff?
01:56:15.000Well, Ray, before I... We're going to come back, and I promise, right when we get back, we're going to take calls.
01:56:20.000Everybody's been patiently holding, so everybody stay there.
01:56:22.000But, Ray, before I get jumped on here, you know, the UN was a creation of that military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about.
01:56:30.000It's a tool, a rubber stamp for the globalists, and every time it doesn't do exactly what they want, they just abandon it.
01:56:37.000And, obviously, Blix wasn't saying what they wanted to hear, because Blix said I wasn't going to be, you know, made a fool of later.
01:56:43.000You know, there weren't weapons of mass destruction.
01:56:46.000But, you know, to say, oh, use the U.N.
01:56:48.000I mean, the U.N., NATO, all this, it's run by the same people.
01:56:53.000It's really turned into a good cop, bad cop thing where they just use it as a tool of the takeover.
01:56:59.000They'd like to do, but they weren't able to do that.
01:57:01.000You know, they had to go forward without the UN blessing, and that's a big, big difference, and it's all the more inexcusable for the US to go ahead, and with the British, to sort of thumb their nose at the rest of the world.
01:57:12.000Well, it makes America look like the bad guy.
01:57:17.000So, and then it makes the UN look good.
01:57:20.000Well, the UN, to its credit, tried to put the brakes on this war, Alex, and we can't forget, you know, that the French and the others, as maligned as they are, they said that we don't abide by this new doctrine that you can, because you're strong enough, that you can go and do a preemptive strike on somebody.
01:57:39.000Is that because Europe is within nuclear strike range of more countries on the hit list and they're worried?
01:57:45.000Well, it could be, but I think it's more a case that the French have been around for a while, and they realize what happens when you let one country exert this kind of unfettered power.
01:57:57.000All right, Ray McGovern, we're honored to have you stay there.
01:57:59.000We're going to come back and take calls, and we'll talk more about the lies and the corruption, folks.
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02:01:38.000I challenge folks to go to a search engine and type in Ray McGovern, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and read his comments That's why I love search engines.
02:01:50.000You know, click on some of the earlier listings from six months ago, a year ago, where Ray laid out the lies, the propaganda, how they were manipulating the population with stunning accuracy, and then it all came out later.
02:02:10.000That's what I like to do, and it's amazing information.
02:02:14.000Ray, you were Right on target with everything you said on this show and what you said on Fox News and other places, how did you have such accurate information?
02:02:28.000Is it your sources still in intelligence or is it your understanding of analyzing the geopolitical system and the tricks of this current regime?
02:02:45.000There's no substitute for having lived and breathed at the high levels of intelligence and policy in Washington as long as I did.
02:02:53.000I guess the most important factor, though, is the Internet.
02:02:56.000I can come down in my pajamas and get read up on just about everything I need to know in two hours by just tuning into the right websites and the right newspapers.
02:03:04.000And then the value added to, say, the next 20 percent, the last 20 percent, that comes from contacts inside.
02:03:12.000Most often these contacts we use mostly To affirm or to confirm our own analysis.
02:03:21.000We say, this is what it looks like to us.
02:03:28.000You've got it right, but there's also this.
02:03:30.000Then we'll get extra little confirmation, extra detail.
02:03:33.000What about Dick Cheney visiting, we now find out, the CIA and literally putting his hand on senior analyst's shoulders and going, we need these weapons.
02:03:48.000Not once, not once in all those years did a Vice President of the United States come to the CIA for a working visit to help us analyze things.
02:03:59.000And that whole concept of him paying repeated visits to the CIA until he browbeat them into coming up with the quote correct and quote answer is just beyond the pale.
02:05:12.000I don't know who is trying to introduce this bill, but apparently there's a bill trying to be introduced to change the Constitution to allow a non-Native-born citizen to run for President.
02:05:25.000And they go on to say that this would allow people such as Madeleine Albright, they used her expressly to... Or Arnold Gustavo Schwarzenegger.
02:05:38.000I wondered if you'd heard anything about that.
02:05:40.000Well, I know that they've got a new continuity of government thing the CFR just put out and they want the governors to appoint people during the decapitation of Congress.
02:05:48.000And I know that during that CONCON, Constitutional Convention, they could rewrite the whole Bill of Rights during that period and they're already trying to do that with Homeland Security, Patriot Act 1 and 2.
02:06:21.000All this stuff, you know, you have to keep a sense of humor, but when you come right down to it, man... Well, the Republicans and Democrats have introduced bills to prepare the process of repealing the 22nd Amendment.
02:06:31.000That, of course, keeps presidents from running more than two consecutive terms.
02:06:48.000There's about five different versions that I've seen.
02:06:50.000Hyde's the same one that when Ron Paul tried to get him to put a rider on the bill that would appropriate the money for the war, Ron Paul wanted to put a rider on that bill.
02:07:01.000I would say that Congress was actually declaring war by voting for that.
02:07:06.000I told him that would be frivolous if the Constitution had nothing to do with this.
02:11:02.000Well, if they certainly are in violation of international law, whether Congress can delegate the ability to make war is a contentious question.
02:11:13.000Congress did vote, they did give the President authorization to make war, so most people would say they chickened out, but they chickened out in a legal way.
02:11:52.000Well, I know that we are now under continuity of government.
02:11:55.000Ray, did you see the stories about a year and a half ago where they admitted that we were under continuity of government and quote, shadow government?
02:12:02.000Oh yeah, I remember the, you mean right after 9-11?
02:12:13.000The House leaders and the Senate leaders were not informed and were not involved in continuity of government, again violating the Constitution, despite the fact they're in direct line of ascension.
02:12:22.000Alex, the Articles of Confederation, though they treat the Constitution, the 1787 Constitution, like it's suspended, remember this to all the listeners out there, That the Articles of Confederation were written before the Constitution.
02:12:39.000There's no provision for suspending it.
02:12:42.000And people out there who use the Articles of Confederation, they have to go in the courtroom.
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02:17:33.000Part of a group of former analysts who spoke out against the war and the fraud and the lies and have been proven totally correct and accurate.
02:17:40.000Unfortunately, I wish they were wrong.
02:17:42.000We're about to get some of his comments on the upcoming wars, which are basically a foregone conclusion, unless we stand up and speak out to the new lies that they're putting out daily.
02:17:53.000Warren in Colorado, you're on the air with your host Alex Jones and our guest Ray McGovern.
02:18:01.000Last week, on one of your last segments, I caught it late at night, 10 to 11 here in Colorado, and you made a great point about how these so-called pilots weren't There's no way that they could fly those large airplanes into the towers.
02:18:17.000And I've got a pilot's license, and I guess my question is, has any veteran pilot made any comments to the fact that that could not have happened for an inexperienced pilot?
02:18:30.000Well, sir, to get into this takes hours, and we've done it.
02:18:41.000And yes, a bunch of veteran pilots have said that with all their skills, it'd be hard to hit one of those buildings the way they did, much less two or three.
02:18:56.000why did bush keep reading a little goat story for twenty seven minutes after knowing
02:19:02.000second tower been hit i mean it was just theater and then later he put out
02:19:05.000different stories and we just to get into nine one one just takes so long but
02:19:09.000and now bush has declared even the public hearings classified
02:19:13.000and and and now it turns out that the the spokeswoman for the f_a_a_ said in
02:19:17.000front of the press oh yeah we got called but after the transponders got turned off
02:19:22.000they took control of the situation. So it's so horrible though, the average person doesn't have the will to face it.
02:19:29.000But it's clear, they're doing nothing to stop terrorism while using the threat of terror to destroy our liberties.
02:19:34.000Ray McGovern, do you have any comments to what Warren is saying?
02:19:37.000Well, yes, I would. I think that the joint hearings in Congress that wound up in September and later last year,
02:19:48.000that shows that Congress is not able to investigate something like this.
02:19:53.000You may recall that after months and months of investigation for the last public hearing, Eleanor Hill, the very gutsy staff director, got up and said, Now, I want everyone to know before we start here that our negotiations with the White House went well into the night, but we were unsuccessful.
02:20:10.000The White House is insisting that we keep everything that has to do with what the President was told.
02:20:27.000And you see that in all kinds of ways.
02:20:29.000Representative Henry Waxman of California wrote a blistering letter to the President on the 17th of March saying, look, you lied to me and that's why I voted for this war.
02:20:43.000He hasn't still received a... Well, when Judicial Watch tried to depose the White House Press Secretary on Halliburton and some of their activities in the war, they threatened to arrest the Judicial Watch server.
02:20:59.000I mean, even Bill Clinton, for all of his corruption, never threatened to arrest somebody in a legal serving procedure.
02:21:43.000senior officials started talking about Syria, saying that Syria was the next target, and they were harboring criminals and escapees from Iraq and doing other things.
02:21:51.000They had weapons of mass destruction, of all things, okay?
02:21:54.000So it looked pretty scary, and the Israeli defense minister was asked to comment on all this, and he said, in an unguarded moment, Oh yes, we Israelis have a whole list of grievances against Syria, but we just assume that the Americans take care of it at this point.
02:22:13.000So there you have a very clear manifestation of the fact that the Israelis are delighted to have us do their bidding there.
02:23:52.000I only have time to take one more call from Elias in Michigan, but first I wanted to get more into Syria and Iran.
02:23:59.000Ray, the White House just said they want to go into Syria and Iran.
02:24:02.000About two months ago, a month and a half ago, Rumsfeld said we want to start destabilization of Iran, maybe even broadcast into Iran, use the student movement.
02:24:13.000And I just want to point out that in Iraq, they're saying they're going to appoint The people that will then, quote, vote for who runs the country.
02:24:23.000As I said earlier, and I've got the articles on Infowars.com, $20 a month for Iraqis that are lucky enough to get hired, the whole infrastructure taken over, working for private firms that Dick Cheney and others are profiting from.
02:25:03.000It's sort of a good news, bad news type of thing.
02:25:07.000Bad news for the poor troops that we've sent over there.
02:25:11.000They're going to be embedded down there for a long time in Iraq.
02:25:16.000I think there are about 145,000 of our guys there and women.
02:25:21.000It turns out that the Chief of Staff of the Army was quite right when he said it's going to take a couple hundred thousand folks to pacify and to occupy Iraq.
02:25:31.000And we'll probably have to send in more folks.
02:25:33.000Those of you who have been around Vietnam, it's really the quagmire that we saw there.
02:26:43.000And in many ways, Alex, the nuclear genie is out of the bottle.
02:26:48.000I mean, what we're doing with respect to North Korea, for example, is we're hastening their attempts to get nuclear weapons by the way we're acting.
02:26:58.000So, it's not going to be possible to prevent people like, well, North Korea is already gone.
02:27:06.000Iran will probably get a nuclear capability.
02:28:47.000uh... israelis would be delighted of course if we went to syria
02:28:51.000But I think that, well, I may be gilding the lily here, but I think that the quagmire that we find ourselves already in, in Iraq, will militate against any quick decision to do the same to Syria.
02:29:04.000By the way, we didn't have our troops getting shot.
02:29:06.000We're getting more resistance now that we've taken over than even taking the country over in the first place.
02:29:14.000The evidence is the people are fighting back now because so many of them were mowed down at weddings and protests, has no connection to Saddam.
02:29:21.000They're actually putting the Ba'athists back in in an attempt to get control, but then the news tries to say, oh, Saddam's secretly commanding them.
02:29:29.000That's why they don't like our troops.
02:29:34.000It's the same propaganda as, you know, the prospect that they would go up on the rooftops and wave American flags.
02:29:41.000You know, I was thinking, Alex, just the other day, as I saw more of our people getting killed, there's a Rudyard Kipling doublet here that really speaks volumes.
02:29:55.000If they ask you why we died, tell them because our fathers lied.
02:30:03.000I forget the saying, that's a good saying, but I forget the one Kipling was talking about, about riding the tiger, you end up being the meal.
02:30:10.000Yeah, we are riding a tiger in Iraq, and the thought that we can pacify and direct 23 million people with 150,000 troops is absurd.
02:30:24.000But why should Exxon and Mobil care if they're getting record profits, if our boys die?
02:30:43.000What you have is a president from Texas, LBJ Bush.
02:30:47.000What you have is a Ivy League defense secretary who thinks he knows everything there is to know in the world and the relatively ignorant The president from Texas is so impressed by this Ivy League quick-talking Secretary of Defense that he allows him to set policy for the United States of America.
02:31:06.000Well, Bush is Ivy League, too, but even though he got in with a 65 score, but Mr. Skull and Bones, one last call, we'll let you go, Ray, and we appreciate all the time.
02:31:59.000This show gets good ratings, great ratings, number one ratings in many cases.
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02:32:07.000There is a market for it, for the truth, for alternative news and information, but look at the FCC ruling with Powell's son saying they can own unlimited.
02:32:18.000That's not free market, that's monopoly or oligopoly.
02:32:21.000Ray McGovern, how does this consolidation of the media feed into destroying a free society?
02:32:26.000That's the worst thing that's happened here in town in several months, and there have been a lot of bad things happening.
02:32:32.000That Powell would do this without holding public hearings?
02:32:36.000That he would do this against Congressional opposition?
02:35:07.000Well, I mean, that's my final question, right?
02:35:10.000Yeah, that's our challenge, and the way we do it is together, and the way we do it is to try first through the political process, We hear ever since 9-11 in Washington a bunch of us that consider ourselves progressive or conservative or conservative progressives who have been lamenting and we've been talking and we've been shouting but we need to start doing and what we need to start doing is getting together and making sure that the people that will be running next November are people that represent what we stand for and will try to get at the truth.
02:35:46.000Now, what percentage, and this is the last question, what percentage of the former and current intelligence people you talk to are upset about what's happening and see the Orwellian nature of the lies for what they are?
02:35:58.000Well, the colleagues that we talk to are mostly of the kind that know us by reputation as having a thing about integrity.
02:36:06.000So, we're not talking to a cross-section of the community.
02:36:10.000But even having said that, I think about 80% of the folks still slogging away in there are just trying to bite their tongues and wait so that they can fight another day.
02:36:20.000Because right now, because of their director caving in to the powers that be, their voice is not being heard.
02:36:28.000So what strata is it, I mean you say 80%, that's almost the entire strata, or all the different layers, I mean, so you're saying top to bottom there are people that don't like butchering America?
02:36:39.000Not really, Alex, I'm afraid I have to say that the bureaucracy is, there's bureaucracy even in the Central Intelligence Agency, and that means that if you know how to sniff the wind right, you know, Yeah, you figure out what the right answers are and you're interested more in self advancement and getting promoted than you are in pursuing the truth.
02:37:01.000It will bubble to the top, and so that other 20%, I'm afraid to say, is at the top of the agency.
02:37:07.000Alright, Ray McGovern, I really appreciate you coming on the show today, and we look forward to having you on again in the future, and God bless you.
02:37:33.000Texas Justice Unfair urges Crime Lab Court of Inquiry.
02:37:38.000Criminal defendants in Texas are at the mercy of prosecutors in an unfair system that emphasizes winning rather than justice, Houston Police Chief C.O.
02:37:51.000That is a Texas criminal justice problem.
02:37:54.000In a two-hour meeting with the Houston Chronicle editorial board, Bradford also said he believes that there is sufficient probable cause for Harris County judges to convene a court of inquiry to publicly and independently investigate the entire police department crime lab, not just the troubled DNA portion.
02:38:18.000Of course, you heard last week about Tulia, Texas with the 56 people Excuse me, 46 people arrested, enraged, no drugs, paraphernalia found.
02:38:27.000One cop said, I saw drugs on all of them.
02:38:30.000And it turned out he hadn't even ever talked to about half of them.
02:38:33.000They all got prison time between 20 and 90 years.
02:38:36.000Turned out it was all made up and fake.
02:38:55.000I mean, somebody like Ray McGrath, you know, kind of a moderate, was a conservative in the Reagan administration.
02:39:01.000And he's here freaking out over all this.
02:39:03.000We've got Charlotte Esserby, former head of Policy, Department of Education, Reagan Administration, giving you the documents where they say they want to dumb your kids down.
02:39:12.000There's a lot of conservatives and liberals and people across the board that are waking up right now.
02:39:20.000To be conservative, a constitutionalist, I'm pro-gun, pro-family, pro-border, I'm for lower taxes, getting rid of the Federal Reserve.
02:39:28.000Well, the neocons you hear on the news, they're not.
02:39:31.000They've got some red herring of beating up some mindless soccer mom on the air who's got half-baked idiotic ideas, but that soccer mom isn't the real threat.
02:39:46.000It's these neocons who are taking the energies of conservative America, of Christian America, and misdirecting it into empowering the New World Order.
02:39:56.000And somebody like Ray says, we'll see the UN's against the war, they must be good.
02:40:00.000And no, Ray's wrong about that because the U.N.
02:40:03.000was founded by the military-industrial complex.
02:40:06.000And they're just there to play good cop-bad cop while the world demonizes America!
02:40:11.000As they provide internal propaganda to make people think the war is good here, they provide propaganda worldwide that's based much of it in truth, that's not propaganda, but misdirected to demonize America and make the UN look good.
02:40:24.000So we're seeing the rise of the EU and world government and the private shareholders of our fellow reserve that are making the money and the power off of this acquisition of natural resources, the oil, and the population of Iraq.
02:40:58.000Iraq was targeted as a military launch base.
02:41:01.000Iraq was targeted, ladies and gentlemen, for its oil.
02:41:05.000Now that's the President's own policy board statement.
02:41:10.000Now, when they can have public documents where they tell us the truth for internal circulation, and then they have a public lie for the general public, and people accept that, we're in deep trouble.
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02:44:56.000Face recognition software is coming to Miami River.
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02:46:30.000It says when they attack towns, they play Wagner's Flight of the Valkyries right out of the movie Apocalypse Now before crashing into Iraqi homes to hunt gunmen.
02:46:38.000And it said they're going ahead in some towns and just arresting most of the men and taking them to camps that MSNBC has reported are re-education centers complete with movie screens, broadcasting propaganda.
02:46:50.000I guess it was good in Red Dawn, you know, and movies like that.
02:46:53.000Or for real in the Soviet Union, so now our government does it.
02:46:56.000With these strings of Wagner's right of the Valkyrie still ringing in their ears, and the clatter of helicopters overhead, soldiers rammed vehicles into metal gates, and hundreds of troops raided houses in the western city.
02:47:14.000This is out of the City Morning Herald.
02:47:15.000I thought they were waiting to see if Saddam followed orders.
02:47:18.000Australian, US, and British Special Forces took control of a quarter of Iraq before the war was officially launched on March 20th.
02:47:24.000Allied Forces Commander General Tommy Frank said yesterday in an extraordinary statement that suggests Australians were engaged in the war prior to Prime Minister John Howard's officially committing troops.
02:47:35.000General Frank said more than 50 Twelve member Special Forces units secretly entered Iraq's desert before hostilities began.
02:47:44.000So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
02:47:47.000But I thought it was all, they didn't follow orders, didn't do what the U.N.
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