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00:01:12.000 Coming up in about 30 minutes, Colorado Senate President John Andrews will be joining us about a bill he's proposed to outlaw the matricula cards in the state.

00:01:26.000 This is where people who are violating federal and state law, who are felons, basically, illegal aliens, run around with ID cards issued by their governments, Guatemala, Mexico, Poland, China, and dozens of other countries, and then cities, socialistic cities that want to destroy our sovereignty and want to balkanize this country and drive down wages and want third world populations that are easy to control 0.98

00:02:00.000 The cities that accept these matricula cards, of course we talk about matricula, that's the government-issued Mexican ID card, but now many other governments are doing the same thing.

00:02:09.000 So, he's got a bill to try to stop this, and it's good news, so the Colorado Senate President, John Andrews, will be joining us here in about 28 and a half minutes.

00:02:23.000 And it's kind of an immigration show today.

00:02:26.000 We've got Glenn Spencer of American Patrol coming on the show, the preeminent organization telling the truth about the New World Order plan to destroy our sovereignty by getting rid of the borders. 0.94

00:02:42.000 If you don't have borders, you don't have a country.

00:02:45.000 So we'll go inside the story and what's behind the headlines and document the latest information as we track the criminal activities of the New World Order for you here on the show on the 27th of June 2003.

00:03:03.000 In the meantime, the news is getting more and more crazy, more and more out of control.

00:03:07.000 I'm going to try to race through it for you.

00:03:15.000 President of the Senate coming up in Glenn Spencer.

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00:03:20.000 Senator, the oldest U.S.

00:03:22.000 Senator, the longest-serving U.S.

00:03:25.000 Senator, who just left office last year, died this morning.

00:03:30.000 Former U.S.

00:03:31.000 Senator Strom Thurmond dies.

00:03:34.000 Strom Thurmond, the longest-serving Senator in U.S.

00:03:37.000 history, died Thursday.

00:03:39.000 He was 100.

00:03:42.000 So he died in the, I guess, early morning hours yesterday.

00:03:47.000 Again, Thurman died at 9.45 p.m.

00:03:49.000 local time in a hospital in his hometown of Edgar Field, said his son Strom Thurman Jr.

00:03:58.000 He served as a senator from South Carolina for 48 years as both a Democrat and later as a Republican.

00:04:06.000 And Strom Thurman was attacked viciously and endlessly because he wasn't a Democrat and he wasn't a Klan member, so he was called a racist. 0.96

00:04:15.000 If you're a Klan member, If you hate black people, if you try to exterminate them, you're called a liberal. 0.97

00:04:23.000 You're called a right-wing extremist if you care about black people. 0.99

00:04:28.000 And so he was attacked.

00:04:30.000 Again, George Bush is called a conservative.

00:04:32.000 He is the most liberal creature I've ever seen.

00:04:35.000 Gun-grabbing, open borders, supercomputers, blocking Dan Burton's committee, getting rid of the Bill of Rights.

00:04:40.000 He's called a conservative.

00:04:43.000 But in reality, he's a liberal.

00:04:45.000 Again, I'm just showing you how these terms are scrambled and the double standards.

00:04:49.000 And of course, I'm speaking of Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia.

00:04:54.000 Look, I'm not going to get off into this too long.

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00:08:21.000 Hi again, thank you for joining me on this Live Friday edition of the Alex Jones Show and of course I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:08:46.000 Former U.S.

00:08:46.000 Senator Strom Thurmond dies.

00:08:49.000 Strom Thurmond, the longest-serving senator in U.S.

00:08:52.000 history, died Thursday night.

00:08:55.000 He was 100.

00:08:55.000 Thurmond died at 9.45 p.m.

00:08:59.000 local time in a hospital in his hometown of Edgarfield, said his son, Strom Thurmond Jr.

00:09:06.000 He served as a senator from South Carolina for 48 years as both a Democrat and later as a Republican.

00:09:13.000 Known as a hardline segregationist, Thurman holds the record for solo Senate filibustering more than 24 hours against a 1957 civil rights bill.

00:09:24.000 His efforts were unsuccessful and the bill passed.

00:09:27.000 First elected to local office in 1928, Thurman retired in January of 2003.

00:09:35.000 And at the retirement dinner that I just so happened to watch on C-SPAN before the firestorm began over the Senate Majority Leader's comments, Trent Lott's comments, the cheerleader from Louisiana's comments about how Strom Thurmond would have made a great president.

00:10:00.000 Now, look.

00:10:02.000 People can attack Strom Thurmond on whatever issues they want, but his segregationist views, my friends, were in 1957.

00:10:11.000 Now, back at that time, Senator Byrd was running around with a white hood on his head.

00:10:20.000 And, of course, he's one of the senior Democrats in the Senate.

00:10:23.000 So, I'm just tired of the double standards.

00:10:26.000 I don't want to get off into a big discussion about this, because it is a diversion if we spend too much time on it compared to the big issues we're facing.

00:10:35.000 But I tune into neocon radio, I tune into liberal talk shows, and I hear this endless discussion of race and affirmative action and how many angels can dance on the head of a pen.

00:10:50.000 It really is nothing but a balkanizing, shattering effect of the society.

00:10:56.000 That's what multiculturalism really is.

00:10:58.000 It's just munializing, destroying any heritage that any group has.

00:11:05.000 And it's just as damaging to focus on it saying it's good as it is to endlessly focus on it and say it's all bad because we all get obsessed with it and it actually just continues this whole mindless discussion that's going on.

00:11:24.000 I'll give you an example.

00:11:26.000 Race is red herring for neokinds. 1.00

00:11:29.000 They don't want to talk about how Bush is going to sign the assault weapons ban and add to it a ban on all semi-automatic shotguns and taxes on ammo and shutting down gun shows and registering all gun owners.

00:11:42.000 They don't want to mention that.

00:11:44.000 It's official.

00:11:45.000 The NRA admitted it a few months ago in their legislative alert section of their website.

00:11:50.000 A lot of you couldn't believe it when I read the bill on air, but finally you could when the NRA put out an alert and said, yeah, it'll ban shotguns, all semi-automatic shotguns, shutdown gun shows, national ballistics database, on and on and on.

00:12:04.000 So the neocons don't want to talk about that.

00:12:06.000 They're not going to talk about it.

00:12:07.000 They won't talk about how Bush didn't want to arm any of the pilots.

00:12:12.000 Then Barbara Boxer wanted to arm all of them.

00:12:14.000 Who's the liberal?

00:12:16.000 They don't want to talk about Pardon Gate or Missile Gate or China Gate or Patriot Act, Gay, they don't want to talk about any of this stuff. 1.00

00:12:25.000 So they focus, they hyperventilate about what Barbara Streisand's doing, or what Al Gore said, or what Hillary Clinton's doing, and they endlessly promote everything Hillary Clinton sells, her stupid book that I wouldn't use as birdcage liner. 0.98

00:12:43.000 I wouldn't read it if you paid me to. 0.98

00:12:46.000 I've read some of the excerpts though online, I mean you talk about lies, It goes on and on.

00:12:53.000 And then the liberals will also attack the conservatives in the same little backroom deal, promoting their books, like this Ann Coulter.

00:13:01.000 So they don't want to talk about real issues.

00:13:02.000 They'll just focus all day on what Jesse Jackson said or what some other liberal did.

00:13:07.000 And I'm sick of it.

00:13:09.000 Because when it comes to substance, when it comes to action, not rhetoric, but substance, you know, the neocon's boss, Stalin, said that Well, words are one thing, actions another.

00:13:23.000 So I look at actions.

00:13:25.000 And the actions are the destruction of America, big government on steroids, the annihilation of what that flag represents.

00:13:33.000 But the general public buys into the surface debate, the surface statements of the neocons. 0.99

00:13:40.000 And it's all about how dumb the liberals are. 0.94

00:13:43.000 But then you find Hillary Clinton together with Bush on not wanting to arm the pilots. 0.99

00:13:45.000 Together with Bush on invading Iraq.

00:13:45.000 Together with Bush on giving supercomputers to Communist China.

00:13:47.000 Together with Bush on blocking Dan Burton's committee.

00:13:48.000 Together with Bush on the assault weapons ban.

00:13:49.000 Together with Bush on private land grabs.

00:13:50.000 Together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, On all the key issues of putting in the cameras and putting in the highway checkpoints and standardizing the surveillance systems.

00:14:15.000 It's all there.

00:14:16.000 It's the same actions.

00:14:18.000 So, this whole debate will now start again over Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott.

00:14:23.000 There'll be no discussion of Byrd riding around on his horse with his Klan hood on.

00:14:28.000 That's okay.

00:14:30.000 You know, the liberals love Margaret Sanger.

00:14:32.000 I mean, the woman got awards from hitler gave awards to hitler we just say 0.82

00:14:36.000 you're a liberal you can run around with a nazi armband on

00:14:40.000 margaret sanger the founder of planned parenthood so these people are all the same grouping together

00:14:46.000 it's just uh... it will be established what decide to attack you

00:14:50.000 and bush had already reprimanded trent lott and told him

00:14:55.000 uh... to stop trying to pass a ban on partial birth abortion in the senate

00:15:00.000 they want to have a staged event in the house and then have it never get to

00:15:03.000 bush's desk where he'd be forced to sign it i have a fox news story where bush told him stop bringing

00:15:09.000 that up for a vote That's not your prerogative.

00:15:12.000 You follow the White House's orders.

00:15:14.000 So that's the only reason Bush turned his back on Trent Lott, his little cheerleader buddy.

00:15:19.000 They were both cheerleaders.

00:15:21.000 Male cheerleaders.

00:15:22.000 That's bad enough, ladies and gentlemen.

00:15:24.000 Don't trust any male cheerleaders. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Sempering, effeminate, New World Order, skull and bones, twits. 0.99

00:15:35.000 All right, continuing.

00:15:36.000 Certainly don't trust anybody from Kennebuckport, Maine who affects a fake Texas accent.

00:15:41.000 It'd be like if I went up there to Blue Blood Country and affected the Atlantic accent, you know, the wannabe British accent they have. 0.99

00:15:51.000 Saw an old reel of Prescott Bush speaking in his British accent.

00:15:56.000 Oh, yeah, this is excellent.

00:15:59.000 On the floor of the Senate.

00:16:02.000 I've seen George W. shift back into his real accent before.

00:16:05.000 He'll kind of falter and... Well, I'll tell you.

00:16:08.000 I mean, let me get back into my Texas accent here for you, boy!

00:16:14.000 Uh, Colton Lewis, I'm switching back into my real accent.

00:16:18.000 Oh, let me tell you!

00:16:20.000 You like fakeness?

00:16:22.000 You like being lied to?

00:16:23.000 You like being told one plus one equals three?

00:16:27.000 Well, this isn't a show for you.

00:16:29.000 You want to turn your shotguns in?

00:16:31.000 You want more regulation than knock yourselves out.

00:16:36.000 You want gun control and tyranny and slavery and no freedom than Bush and Gore and all the rest of them and John Kerry.

00:16:42.000 Mr. Skull and Bones are for you.

00:16:45.000 By the way, we do have the President of the Colorado Senate, President John Andrews, scheduled to join us.

00:16:53.000 He's calling in to talk about trying to stop all the illegals in the cities accepting fake ID cards, basically, the matricula. 0.78

00:17:01.000 So former U.S.

00:17:02.000 Senator Strom Thurmond dies, and there'll be another big fresh round of debates.

00:17:09.000 Bush threatens to pacify Liberia, now saying the invasion may begin in another country.

00:17:16.000 An American military operation to restore order in Liberia looked likely last night as President George W. Bush called for peace in the war-torn West Africa Republic.

00:17:27.000 He drew cheers and applause from an audience of businessmen, academics, and African leaders when he called on Liberia's President Charles Taylor, an indicted war criminal, to stand down.

00:17:38.000 President Taylor needs to step down so that his country can be spared further bloodshed, he said.

00:17:44.000 Earlier, British diplomats raised the possibility of an American military operation with Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Britain's U.N.

00:17:50.000 Ambassador, saying that America would be the natural candidate for any Western-run operation in Liberia.

00:17:58.000 Mr. Bush called for all sides in Liberia's bloody civil war to return to the negotiating table to end a series of clashes that have cost millions of lives, including 300 in the capital, Moravia, this week.

00:18:13.000 Okay, so, of course, this country's full of diamonds.

00:18:18.000 The U.N.

00:18:19.000 has been wanting to take it over.

00:18:20.000 De Beers has been kicked out.

00:18:21.000 It's been breaking their diamond monopoly.

00:18:24.000 They've admitted this, by the way.

00:18:25.000 It's about the diamonds, the gold, the oil.

00:18:28.000 And so there'll be more troops getting shot there, and they'll claim Al-Qaeda runs the government or something.

00:18:34.000 You know, every time somebody fights back, they're run by Al-Qaeda, while Al-Qaeda's everywhere.

00:18:40.000 It's wonderful.

00:18:42.000 So, more war footage for you, your new national pastime, sitting there as our troops huff depleted uranium and nerve gas and aren't given treatment, but you've got a plastic, desecrated American flagged away, everything's okay. 0.80

00:18:57.000 You don't care about the troops, but hey, so what? 1.00

00:18:59.000 You're a mindless idiot, so at least you have that. 1.00

00:19:03.000 Turn your guns in. 1.00

00:19:03.000 You're very conservative. 1.00

00:19:05.000 Arrested U.S.

00:19:06.000 troops abducted.

00:19:08.000 Now, more horrible news is six British soldiers were killed on Monday.

00:19:13.000 There's two U.S.

00:19:14.000 troops every day this week, so that's up to, I don't know, six or eight.

00:19:19.000 Arrested as U.S.

00:19:20.000 troops abducted.

00:19:21.000 U.S.

00:19:22.000 forces have arrested three people as they conduct intensive searches for two American soldiers believed to have been abducted north of the Iraqi capital of Baghdad.

00:19:33.000 The two servicemen vanished with their vehicle, weapons, and gear on Wednesday night.

00:19:39.000 Near the town of Balda, there was blood at the scene.

00:19:43.000 It confirmed the abduction would mark another style of attack on American and British forces occupying the country since BBC's Richard Galpin in Baghdad.

00:19:51.000 By the way, they say that again, well, we're going to break and we'll be right back and I'll get into more of these tragedies that are unfolding.

00:19:59.000 And they've got a national draft lined up.

00:20:01.000 They say we're going to occupy 62 countries.

00:20:04.000 That's an endless war.

00:20:06.000 So they've got that lined up for you and your family.

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00:24:21.000 I've been studying the Iraq situation, and there really wasn't much resistance in the first few weeks after the

00:24:29.000 takeover by the globalists using our troops that they see as

00:24:35.000 disposable.

00:24:36.000 Disposable heroes is really what the government sees them as.

00:24:43.000 And after gun confiscation and door-to-door arrests and little kids being put in re-education camps, I mean there's video and photos of this, the news had mentioned it, people being tortured after some rapes by our glorious forces.

00:24:58.000 And yes, they do that everywhere.

00:25:00.000 Japan, Korea, Latin America, right here in the U.S.

00:25:03.000 This is what armies do.

00:25:05.000 There are some bad people in the military.

00:25:07.000 That does happen.

00:25:08.000 They occasionally do something wrong.

00:25:10.000 The Iraqis are sick of it, and even people in the South have been on their side. 1.00

00:25:15.000 People are now getting quite angry, but they claim the boogeyman of Goldstein, I mean Saddam, you know this boogeyman character of 1984, now it's all his fault.

00:25:26.000 He's the one organizing it and running it.

00:25:28.000 It's been quite a liberation, hasn't it?

00:25:30.000 Cholera has spread all over the country.

00:25:34.000 The Associated Press reports that when little kids come up with body parts half blown off or fingers missing and beg for medical attention, they're just denied it And our troops are getting very angry and upset about it.

00:25:48.000 They want to give treatment.

00:25:49.000 But they've got orders.

00:25:51.000 And the Iraqis are paid. 0.99

00:25:52.000 They're not allowed to have jobs unless it's through the U.S. 0.99

00:25:54.000 government.

00:25:55.000 And they're given $20 a month by Halliburton, who's got a $7-plus million contract.

00:26:00.000 But they get $20 a month.

00:26:02.000 It's under slave wages.

00:26:05.000 It's a nation of 20-plus million slaves.

00:26:08.000 And they're quite angry.

00:26:11.000 And our troops are angry about it, too.

00:26:13.000 Because they don't want to be part of an oppressive force, and now the morale that was quite high is plummeting.

00:26:22.000 But hey, armchair quarterbacks here at home can affix plastic flags, festoon their cars with plastic desecrated American flags, and who cares if the troops are dying and getting sick now from DU?

00:26:36.000 By the way, that's now admitted.

00:26:38.000 But, um, yeah, so what?

00:26:39.000 You know, supporting the troops means letting them huff DU.

00:26:42.000 Okay, well, then if that means supporting them, I don't support them.

00:26:46.000 I don't support killing our troops.

00:26:47.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:26:48.000 I know being mindless idiot means you support the troops. 0.99

00:26:52.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:26:52.000 I just can't do it then. 1.00

00:26:54.000 And so now troops are being killed and abducted and blown up and it's terrible.

00:27:00.000 But here on the home front, they're setting a police state.

00:27:05.000 Congressman Tom Tancredo of Colorado, we've had him on the show many times, says, 9-1-1 repeat would be fault of Bush, Congress, GOP, lawmaker charges.

00:27:16.000 If another terrorist attack is conducted on U.S.

00:27:19.000 soil by illegal aliens, the fault will lie with Congress and the President, one lawmaker asserted Thursday.

00:27:26.000 Well, we continue to say this.

00:27:28.000 If we have another event and it is perpetrated by someone coming into this country illegally and we've done no more to protect our borders and actually enforce our immigration policy, then the blood of the people that are killed will be on the hands of the representatives. 0.68

00:27:43.000 Representative Tom Tancredo told CNS News.

00:27:46.000 Tancredo said he has made the same statement to White House officials.

00:27:50.000 Their response, they told me, never to darken the doorstep of the White House again, Tancredo revealed.

00:27:55.000 They went ballistic.

00:27:56.000 Well, they announced in Roll Call Magazine that he is being targeted by President Bush, just like Senator Bob Smith was targeted.

00:28:05.000 Ron Paul has been targeted by the Republicans.

00:28:08.000 If you're actually pro-gun, pro-border, pro-America, anti-abortion, you are targeted.

00:28:15.000 Tancredo said he has made the same statement to the White House officials.

00:28:18.000 Their response?

00:28:19.000 They told me never to darken the door except for the White House again.

00:28:21.000 Tancredo revealed they went ballistic.

00:28:24.000 They asked, how dare you say a thing like that?

00:28:26.000 I said, you tell me who people should blame?

00:28:29.000 The Elks Club?

00:28:30.000 Who's responsible?

00:28:31.000 Ten Credo recalled asking White House officials.

00:28:35.000 And we'll talk more about this with the head of the Colorado Senate, who is joining us coming up in the next segment.

00:28:46.000 So that's your new America, by the way. 0.62

00:28:50.000 And they're not just having secret arrests and secret executions in this country.

00:28:54.000 England, Australia are passing similar laws.

00:28:58.000 Unlimited power of arrest, ASIO says.

00:29:02.000 They can now secretly arrest members of the press and make them answer questions.

00:29:06.000 Or any of the citizenry in these new laws.

00:29:08.000 The press is complaining that they're not being excluded.

00:29:12.000 And the family need not be told.

00:29:13.000 If the judge feels you're not answering questions truthfully, you can be secretly given five years in prison.

00:29:21.000 Now that's tame compared to Patriot Act.

00:29:25.000 One and two.

00:29:26.000 Here it's secret arrest, secret execution.

00:29:29.000 They cremate your body and they've admitted they have crematoriums.

00:29:33.000 Oh yeah, that's Rocky Mountain News.

00:29:36.000 And you're never seen again.

00:29:38.000 So, Australia's Tame says a retired judge is secretly impaneled, you're arrested secretly, brought before them, and you don't answer all their questions, and they feel you're not being honest, five years in prison and your family's not told.

00:29:53.000 Says that right here, Sydney Morning Herald.

00:29:55.000 Hey, that sounds like freedom, doesn't it?

00:29:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:30:00.000 We're on the march.

00:30:01.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:30:59.000 Spencer coming on from American Patrol, tracking how the Mexican government has said the last

00:31:05.000 three presidents in a row, many times on...

00:31:08.000 National television in this country.

00:31:10.000 But the Southwest belongs to Mexico. 0.75

00:31:13.000 The textbooks teach that it belongs to Mexico.

00:31:17.000 It's ridiculous if it belongs to anybody. 0.73

00:31:19.000 It was the American Indians. 0.94

00:31:21.000 And obviously people are coming here from Mexico because they don't want to live under the tyranny, both economic and political, of Mexico.

00:31:29.000 But a lot of people in Washington want the cheap labor.

00:31:32.000 They want the votes.

00:31:34.000 They want to drive down the wages.

00:31:37.000 And earlier I was reading a report here, 9-1-1 repeat would be fault of Bush, Congress, GOP lawmaker charges.

00:31:46.000 It's a GOP lawmaker, Congressman Tom Tancredo, who we've interviewed many times, who has been targeted by the White House for being pro-national security and sovereignty, despite the fact that 89% of Americans in major polls, including 80-plus percent of Hispanics, want the borders shut and illegals deported.

00:32:08.000 It is not a racial issue.

00:32:09.000 They tried to make it one.

00:32:11.000 Now we have these matricula cards.

00:32:13.000 Mexico started issuing them a few years ago.

00:32:16.000 Now 800 plus U.S.

00:32:17.000 cities aren't accepting them.

00:32:19.000 You can go buy one for $24.

00:32:22.000 Now Poland, Guatemala is issuing their own cards. 0.86

00:32:26.000 Up in Minnesota, they're announcing that they're not going to comply with the feds on going after illegal aliens.

00:32:33.000 This is insane.

00:32:35.000 Totally insane.

00:32:36.000 And we're honored to have joining us Colorado Senate President John Andrews and he's in a big story in the Denver Post, in the Associated Press, there's a bunch of articles.

00:32:46.000 He's proposed a state law and it is the state's job to tell the cities to knock it off and to stop their racketeering basically, and that's my word, empowering felons.

00:32:58.000 And Senator, it's good to have you on the show.

00:33:01.000 I appreciate you taking the time out.

00:33:02.000 Hi Alex, glad to be with you today.

00:33:05.000 It's not just a proposed law, it is law in Colorado.

00:33:08.000 We are the first of the 50 states to say no to these bogus ID cards that attempt To erase the distinction between legal immigrants, and we welcome those folks, but the illegals are hiding behind these matricular cards, and Colorado said no more. 0.92

00:33:25.000 I can see how that sounded.

00:33:26.000 I mean, but you're the guy that brought this law forward, correct?

00:33:30.000 I am.

00:33:31.000 I'm working with a state representative who's also a constituent of Congressman Tang Credo.

00:33:36.000 It was actually Representative Don Lee that started it in the statehouse, and I saw it through the state senate.

00:33:41.000 I had the honor to testify about it before a congressional subcommittee last week and I urge Congress to legislate as Colorado has done.

00:33:51.000 Now, this is wildly popular with people across the spectrum, unless they're just totally American-hating people that don't want to have any jobs or want the healthcare systems blown out, which has happened in California.

00:34:07.000 Governor Davis is being recalled right now.

00:34:10.000 That process is going nicely.

00:34:12.000 Why is this bill that you've now gotten passed so important for the rest of the country?

00:34:19.000 We see three reasons why the matricula card, erasing the distinction of legal and illegal immigrants, is bad, Alex.

00:34:28.000 First of all, it's a matter of homeland security.

00:34:32.000 Not to say that very many folks from Mexico who are coming here looking for a better life economically and politically, as you just said, would represent a threat.

00:34:44.000 The bigger the pool of illegals into which the bad guys can blend themselves, these Islamic terrorists can blend themselves, the tougher it is for our Homeland Security agencies to track them down. 1.00

00:34:57.000 And the matricula card gives a false sense of security when it's accepted by law enforcement or other public agencies that somebody claiming to be Jose Lopez really is Jose Lopez.

00:35:11.000 When in fact, there's no verification that is made when the embassy or the consulate issues that card to some guy that says, hey, I'm Jose.

00:35:20.000 And we've got instances here in Colorado of the same individual with his picture on three different matricular cards, very official looking from the Mexican consulate in Denver, and three different aliases for the guy.

00:35:32.000 So first of all, there's a Homeland Security concern.

00:35:35.000 Second, as you just said, There is a fiscal integrity concern because there's a lot of public services that are meant for legal residents of the United States only.

00:35:45.000 Colorado has struggled with this, as many states have, as we have been having to cut our budgets in tough economic times.

00:35:52.000 We're having to say, if you're not in this country legally, you can't have health and welfare and education and other taxpayer services.

00:35:59.000 And yet the matricula card also would provide access, and we've had Denver and other Colorado municipalities saying, yeah, give us the matricula card, we'll let you bleed the taxpayer. 1.00

00:36:11.000 Is Denver, and again we're talking to Colorado Senate President John Andrews who got this bill passed in his state, and here's the headline, Denver Post, U.S.

00:36:20.000 ban on matriculas urged by Colorado's Andrews, ID's not verifiable.

00:36:26.000 Now it's not just Mexico.

00:36:27.000 It's Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador, Poland, China. 0.88

00:36:31.000 They're all saying, oh, we'll have our embassies issue these.

00:36:35.000 The police don't know if they're real, if they're fake, even if the countries did due diligence.

00:36:42.000 We have the Communist Chinese Senate reports, federal reports, say that control over 3,000 front companies.

00:36:48.000 Now they can bring in their agents, their drug dealers, their triads. 0.59

00:36:52.000 I mean, this is a wonderland for terrorists, organized criminals, welfare cheats.

00:36:58.000 It's a nightmare. 0.83

00:37:00.000 What a joke to say that, oh, we're worried about terrorists.

00:37:03.000 Give up your liberty, citizens.

00:37:05.000 And then to have the illegals here with all these fake cards. 0.94

00:37:08.000 There's about 20 countries that are doing it or proposing to do it, and Mexico is leading the way.

00:37:13.000 And a congressional testimony a week ago emphasized there was a Latino congressman, a Democrat from Chicago, who heads the Hispanic Caucus at the U.S.

00:37:22.000 House, and he said the matricula is no problem and nothing new about it.

00:37:26.000 It's been issued since 1871, true enough, but only in the last year or two

00:37:32.000 has the Fox government in Mexico City gone on a concerted campaign to use these things to erase the

00:37:38.000 distinction between the legal and the illegal immigrant. And so there is a homeland

00:37:43.000 security aspect, there's a fiscal integrity aspect, and thirdly, it's a little abstract, but

00:37:48.000 it's what our America is all about.

00:37:50.000 It comes down to the rule of law.

00:37:53.000 Because these cards are being used by a foreign government on a deliberate strategy to say that it doesn't matter if you tried to obey the law to get into this country or you thumbed your nose at the law, we're going to give you a shortcut around the law and give you the same status even if you enter illegally. 0.67

00:38:10.000 Well, the last president of Mexico said, I got him on video on C-SPAN, Well, it's just a matter of time until these people demand that they will vote, even if they're not American citizens.

00:38:29.000 They want to vote on both sides of the border.

00:38:33.000 Well, it's incredible, Senator.

00:38:37.000 And you know, to me, Alex, it's not about any one country or any one people or ethnic group.

00:38:44.000 It's not about bashing Mexicans, it's about the rule of law and whether we take U.S.

00:38:48.000 national sovereignty seriously.

00:38:51.000 At the congressional hearing last week, from Iowa of all places, Iowa, long, long ways from the Mexican border, Congressman Steve King of Iowa told of going to see a school principal in suburban Des Moines, a Hispanic guy, an educator, who had signed an ad protesting King's immigration concerns.

00:39:12.000 And King says to the gentleman, what's your problem?

00:39:15.000 And this Hispanic American, presumably a U.S.

00:39:18.000 citizen, an educator, someone in charge of molding the minds of kids, says, look, brother, He didn't cross the border.

00:39:25.000 The border crossed us.

00:39:26.000 We're in the process of getting this corner of the country back, and we want to thank you because we're getting it back, substantially improved from the condition in which we lost it in the 1840s.

00:39:35.000 It's just that blatant.

00:39:38.000 Well, I mean, let's talk about Mecha, La Raza, and others, which La Raza means the race, and Mecha, their websites.

00:39:45.000 I mean, literally, it's way past the Klan, who I also find to be unsavory.

00:39:52.000 And it is a racial movement.

00:39:54.000 On that end of it, it is.

00:39:56.000 But, again, most Hispanics in America understand this, understand it drives down ways, understand it's destroying America. 1.00

00:40:03.000 They don't want to live under that corruption, and so they're against it.

00:40:06.000 But, the city leaders, white, black, Hispanic, it doesn't matter, the liberals want to break down our cities, want to be part of this takeover of the society.

00:40:16.000 They're on the record saying it, and because they're so blatant, now it's easier to expose them and fight what they're doing.

00:40:24.000 I mean, we've got to talk about this.

00:40:26.000 I live in Texas.

00:40:27.000 If you go over the border and you break their rules, they'll beat you up and put you in jail forever.

00:40:32.000 Even if you don't break the rules, they will.

00:40:34.000 They'll shoot you if you come across their border illegally, but that's okay. 1.00

00:40:38.000 It's this whole breakdown of society now, and how can the federal government say, give your liberty up for security, while they are trying to then accept all of these fake IDs?

00:40:52.000 It's absolutely inconsistent.

00:40:56.000 And the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus that testified in favor of the matricula in the hearing in House Judiciary a week ago doesn't make policy arguments.

00:41:08.000 He essentially puts up a bunch of emotional rhetoric.

00:41:10.000 He says, who do you think made up your hotel room today?

00:41:13.000 Who do you think picked the fruit that you ate on your menu today?

00:41:18.000 These are part of the 10 million illegals in this country and what we ought to do is just essentially surrender. 1.00

00:41:24.000 Give an amnesty to all of them and move on.

00:41:27.000 But it's a lot more than 10 million, Senator.

00:41:29.000 And we know this.

00:41:30.000 400 million people in Latin America.

00:41:33.000 20 million new births a year.

00:41:36.000 They're building these big highways down into there.

00:41:38.000 Folks, do you want hundreds of millions of people here? 0.90

00:41:44.000 Folks, have you been to Mexico City where they live in cardboard boxes?

00:41:47.000 This will lower our standard of living.

00:41:50.000 And regardless of what color you are, you've got to be against this, and they've tried to make it a racial issue.

00:41:55.000 But if we had 20 million illegal Russians here, I'd be just as concerned or more. 1.00

00:42:02.000 Also, we have the disease factor.

00:42:04.000 We need screening for those that come here legally because of the drug-resistant tuberculosis. 0.98

00:42:12.000 There's just all those reasons and the denial that I saw when I testified before Congress and I saw it from Republicans, unfortunately, as well as Democrats.

00:42:24.000 A Republican congressman from Arizona and one from Utah sat on this judiciary subcommittee that's supposed to be helping control our borders and made the argument for the matricular card and the argument for a massive amnesty.

00:42:37.000 Frankly, I was shocked that I'm just trying to define this problem away instead of confront the problem.

00:42:43.000 Well, I had the new congressman on from Arizona.

00:42:47.000 Which one?

00:42:48.000 Oh man, see that's why I said the new congressman.

00:42:50.000 I had him on like in January.

00:42:51.000 Is it Congressman Flake by chance?

00:42:54.000 No, it's a Hispanic name.

00:42:57.000 Okay.

00:42:58.000 I had him on.

00:42:59.000 It made big news when he said it.

00:43:01.000 It'll pop in my head in a second.

00:43:02.000 It was back in January, but he said That this belongs to Mexico.

00:43:08.000 I mean, I had a congressman on the air that audio files on PrisonPlanet.com, and they linked to it at American Patrol and a bunch of other websites.

00:43:17.000 But I had him on here, and when Glenn Spencer's on in the next hour, I know you would have left this, but I can ask Glenn his name because he remembers the incident.

00:43:24.000 And he knows all these characters.

00:43:25.000 I mean, imagine if I went down to Mexico, got elected, of course he wouldn't let me, but I got elected to a seat in their government, and then I said, this belongs to the U.S.

00:43:37.000 It's just amazing.

00:43:38.000 Now, you talked about this congressman in Iowa or Ohio?

00:43:42.000 No, Iowa.

00:43:44.000 Congressman Steve King, he is a real hero of the wake-up call on illegal immigration.

00:43:50.000 And you said that he went to this school teacher and this teacher said, the border crossed us.

00:43:54.000 Yeah, right.

00:43:55.000 And the teacher said, we're getting the country back and thank you for substantially improving it while you occupied it.

00:44:03.000 The blatant revolutionary attitude ought to wake all of us up.

00:44:14.000 Southern North America was run by the Mayans and the Aztecs, who enslaved all the tribes. 1.00

00:44:19.000 The Spanish did it. 1.00

00:44:21.000 Santa Ana did it.

00:44:22.000 I mean, who's taking it back?

00:44:24.000 I don't understand this.

00:44:26.000 Oh, there's no historical validity to it, Alex, at all.

00:44:31.000 But it is inflammatory rhetoric that is very attractive to some people that are looking for a shortcut out of their discontent.

00:44:40.000 But isn't this sedition, isn't it treason to have members of Congress and to have people

00:44:47.000 in the country openly announcing we want to bring down America?

00:44:51.000 I mean that sounds like the enemy combatant designation to me.

00:44:54.000 Well I don't know of any member of Congress that has said that.

00:44:57.000 Well when I get Spencer on, he heard the interview with this guy.

00:45:00.000 And no, he said that this is, he brought up the Guadalupe Hidalgo, the treaty.

00:45:06.000 He said, hey, you know, this is really Mexico.

00:45:10.000 These people have a right to be here.

00:45:11.000 It was the same statement you just said.

00:45:14.000 And I'm sorry I don't have his name.

00:45:16.000 It'll pop in my head in a minute.

00:45:17.000 And, you know, while we're talking about members of Congress that are AWOL on the issue, Lamar Smith, you're in Austin, right?

00:45:27.000 Yes, sir.

00:45:27.000 Is Lamar Smith your congressman there?

00:45:30.000 No, we're unlucky enough to have Lloyd Doggett.

00:45:33.000 He's just south of me.

00:45:35.000 Lamar Smith's for San Antonio.

00:45:37.000 Okay, Smith sits on the House Immigration Subcommittee, where I testified last week.

00:45:43.000 His eyes are wide open on this issue.

00:45:46.000 He asks very, very uh... top and uh... perceptive questions about the danger

00:45:52.000 posed by the matriculate and any he really uh...

00:45:55.000 was very blunt uh... the uh... conscious

00:46:00.000 yeah of the box government uh...

00:46:02.000 to uh...

00:46:04.000 try to create a dual citizenship any and erase the border but corporate america's behind that and bush is in a love

00:46:11.000 fest with fox and what a pass that

00:46:14.000 if nine one one one of taking place When 9-1-1 happened, that kind of... Remember the week before 9-1-1, he had Fox at the White House and they were announcing all this?

00:46:22.000 Yeah, and the whole thing is coming back onto the front burner now.

00:46:27.000 There's at least one bill From two Arizona congressmen that create the massive amnesty disguised as a guest worker program, but it isn't a guest worker program because these folks get a temporary green card and then it becomes permanent after three years and nobody ever has to go home.

00:46:46.000 That's not a guest worker program, that's an amnesty.

00:46:48.000 We're talking to Colorado Senate President John Andrews and I really appreciate him being on.

00:46:53.000 I have a few other questions for him, he can stay with us another 5-10 minutes, but Senator Look, I mean, this is such a massive problem.

00:47:03.000 There's six and a half billion people on the globe.

00:47:05.000 They all want to come here.

00:47:07.000 Is 500 million enough?

00:47:08.000 Is 2 billion enough?

00:47:09.000 I mean, how many people are we going to accept here?

00:47:12.000 This is getting insane.

00:47:13.000 20 million new births a year.

00:47:16.000 We've got to get a hold of this.

00:47:17.000 This is crazy.

00:47:18.000 I mean, the Mexicans don't let the Guatemalans take over.

00:47:21.000 They've got a big fence down there with Guatemala. 0.99

00:47:24.000 Yeah, the hypocrisy is awful. 0.95

00:47:26.000 Their southern border means something that our southern border isn't supposed to mean something. 0.56

00:47:30.000 But if we don't have a border, we don't have a sovereign country.

00:47:34.000 Amen.

00:47:35.000 And you know, I've got a strong libertarian streak in my conservative Republican outlook.

00:47:41.000 And I'm a free market guy.

00:47:44.000 And that used to make me more or less of an open borders guy.

00:47:50.000 And not to say no immigration controls, but to be sort of relaxed about the whole thing.

00:47:54.000 Sort of the optimistic perspective of the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

00:47:59.000 But now they're saying this is Mexico.

00:48:02.000 I've had to take another look at all of the aspects of this, the security aspects, the budget aspects of it.

00:48:12.000 And we've got a tenured professor right here at one of our state colleges in Denver who spends a lot of his time propagandizing.

00:48:19.000 Tell you what Senator, we've got a quick three minute break and then just do five minutes on the other side with us if you can.

00:48:23.000 We'll be right back with the Colorado Senate President John Andrews.

00:48:27.000 We really appreciate him standing firm for America.

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00:51:28.000 Alright folks, you cannot talk about a more serious issue.

00:51:38.000 I mean of the top issues, frankly the border and sovereignty may even outstrip the Second Amendment.

00:51:47.000 I mean, they're right up there as kind of a dual binary system.

00:51:52.000 I mean, it's very, very important.

00:51:55.000 And the congressman is Grohova.

00:51:58.000 In fact, I knew that was the name, but I wasn't sure.

00:52:01.000 I wanted to go to the congressional website and look at the representative from Cochise County area.

00:52:07.000 It's Grohova.

00:52:08.000 I mean, this guy is a piece of work.

00:52:11.000 We have him on tape saying, basically, this is Mexico, and I don't have any right to call for sovereignty.

00:52:17.000 I'm talking to Colorado Senate President John Andrews who got a bill passed in his state and it's, again, wildly popular to not accept basically fake ID cards issued by communist China and Mexico and Guatemala and Poland.

00:52:30.000 Of course, we always talk about Mexico because it's the majority.

00:52:33.000 That's why we focus on the Hispanic group coming across.

00:52:36.000 It's not racial, it's the fact that that's the majority and most Hispanics I talk to are very upset and know this is destroying our sovereignty and our economy. 1.00

00:52:47.000 So the media tries to make it racial, it's not, as the State Senator President was saying.

00:52:53.000 Continuing, sir, with the problems we face, any other key points you'd like to make, Senator?

00:53:00.000 Well, let me just encourage listeners to go to coloradosenet.com, our website, where one of our lead stories right now is my congressional testimony that I gave on June 19th to a U.S.

00:53:13.000 House Immigration Subcommittee.

00:53:15.000 And that has a rundown on Colorado's new bill that says state and local officials will not accept the phony consular ID card, whether it's from Mexico, Poland, Peru, or any other country.

00:53:31.000 There is a section where a police officer can take this card as a starting point to figure out who somebody is at a law enforcement stop, but then they've got to keep that in the criminal record, along with the fingerprints of that individual, so we begin to create a trail.

00:53:48.000 You know, you think of how the D.C.

00:53:49.000 snipers were caught last fall, Alex.

00:53:52.000 That is because we had a seamlessly traceable criminal record across the country, and while there are privacy concerns that you have to balance, in a dangerous world, we need to know where the bad guys

00:54:03.000 And these matricula cards, if law enforcement accepts them at a traffic stop or something,

00:54:03.000 are.

00:54:08.000 that's just got to be the starting point of figuring out who is this person really,

00:54:13.000 and we need to keep records on them.

00:54:15.000 Another shocker was that we asked in our bill originally to report to the INS,

00:54:21.000 the local law enforcement, when they collected one of these matriculas from a suspected criminal.

00:54:27.000 And the INS told us to forget it.

00:54:29.000 They said they didn't want that information.

00:54:31.000 And this is two years after 9/11, and the people supposedly in control

00:54:36.000 of our borders are saying forget it.

00:54:38.000 We don't want to cooperate with state government.

00:54:40.000 Senator, I read an AP article out of Ohio where they were running a checkpoint,

00:54:45.000 or in the federally funded checkpoints.

00:54:47.000 And they kept catching truckloads, van loads full of illegals, all this stuff.

00:54:51.000 They would call INS, and INS would say, release them.

00:54:54.000 And the police chief in this town pointed out that he was there arresting citizens for Patty's stuff, searching their cars, violating the Fourth Amendment.

00:55:02.000 These were not seatbelt checks.

00:55:03.000 This was trying to get us to get rid of the Fourth Amendment. 0.55

00:55:05.000 But illegals have like a super citizen status.

00:55:09.000 So they even have more rights than citizens.

00:55:11.000 I mean, I can't go out and get five or six fake ID cards and have police accept them, but some illegal from Poland or Mexico can.

00:55:21.000 It's absolutely backwards.

00:55:23.000 That's what Colorado House Bill 1224, now law in Colorado, first state in the country.

00:55:28.000 That's what we're trying to stop.

00:55:30.000 And I do hope people will visit coloradosenet.com and learn more about the bill and encourage legislators in their states And if there's more terror, and it's an illegal, and you know it's going to be an illegal, it's going to be their fault.

00:55:48.000 You tell them what Congressman Tancredo said.

00:55:51.000 You agree with his statement that those that don't pass these laws are going to be held responsible by the people for helping the terrorists?

00:55:59.000 All of us that are lawmakers, state or federal legislative responsibility, there is an unforgivable omission if we don't wake up to this problem.

00:56:10.000 All right.

00:56:11.000 To Colorado Senate President John Andrews, hope to have you back up in the future, and thanks for coming on.

00:56:16.000 Have a great weekend.

00:56:17.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:56:18.000 I'll be right back with the second hour.

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00:56:50.000 Government cover-ups.

00:56:51.000 You want answers?

00:56:53.000 Well, so does he.

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00:56:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:57:07.000 Alright folks, it's Friday.

00:57:09.000 We've got two hours left.

00:57:11.000 We've got Glenn Spencer, one of my favorite guests, to come on and talk about the destruction of America and our sovereignty.

00:57:19.000 How illegal aliens get more welfare, more tuition, more rights, are allowed to have fake ID cards that anyone can get basically dozens of. 0.95

00:57:30.000 And how citizens are losing their liberties.

00:57:32.000 That's coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:57:33.000 minutes. When we get back to the next segment, I'll go to Brenton, Connecticut, and others

00:57:37.000 that are patiently holding.

00:57:38.000 Have you liked to join me on air to talk about the issue that the state Senate President

00:57:43.000 of Colorado was talking about, the national sovereignty issue, as Mexico announces that

00:57:48.000 the United States belongs to Mexico. It is official, and the White House is behind it, 0.98

00:57:53.000 involved in it. The white men, the old bankers are part of it, wanting to break down our

00:57:58.000 sovereignty and destroy our liberties.

00:58:00.000 And if they can bring another 20 million illegals in who have no history of freedom, that'll 1.00

00:58:04.000 make a nice mass for them to push around and order who don't have any understanding of

00:58:10.000 And it'll drive down the wages even further. 0.92

00:58:13.000 So that's coming up.

00:58:14.000 More on that, of course, your calls in the next segment.

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00:58:21.000 The Feds are announcing they want to track all cattle and have Homeland Security involved in it.

00:58:24.000 You'll have to track and trace your cattle, your sheep, your goats.

00:58:28.000 And it'll be a new tax for you.

00:58:30.000 Federal inspections of your farms and ranches.

00:58:33.000 Hope you enjoy it.

00:58:34.000 Ridge announced last year, I have them on tape on C-SPAN, saying this is for tracking and tracing part of Homeland Security.

00:58:41.000 Now they claim it's to stop Mad Cow. 0.72

00:58:44.000 Which is totally ridiculous. 0.50

00:58:46.000 So look out for that. 0.64

00:58:47.000 That's coming up.

00:58:49.000 Big story, unlimited power of arrest.

00:58:51.000 Australia's domestic intelligence agency, ASIO, will have aggressive new powers.

00:58:57.000 From today to detained for an unlimited period, citizens suspected of having information about terrorist offenses.

00:59:03.000 It says they can secretly arrest you, bring you before a secret judge, a non-sitting judge, and if they feel you haven't told the truth, on the spot, put you secretly in prison for five years.

00:59:16.000 Now you think that's bad?

00:59:17.000 That's much better than here in the U.S.

00:59:19.000 They just won't admit what they're doing, even though it's in the bill.

00:59:23.000 But don't worry, Paul Woelfel wants to oversee military tribunals.

00:59:27.000 He will select the secret judges.

00:59:29.000 He will select who is secretly arrested and who is secretly executed.

00:59:33.000 Source on this Associated Press, Robert Burns.

00:59:38.000 That's coming up.

00:59:41.000 U.S.

00:59:41.000 pledges to avoid torture.

00:59:42.000 They've now admitted that our troops have tortured people to death.

00:59:46.000 Bush pledges that will stop as they increase the funding for torture training at Fort Benning, Georgia, and admit torture.

00:59:54.000 Record cuts, higher taxes, the state's struggle to survive tough times.

00:59:58.000 The feds are going to increase the gas tax and other taxes while cutting taxes publicly to make you think they're doing something.

01:00:05.000 So they raise five taxes and cut one.

01:00:07.000 Overall taxation increases.

01:00:09.000 That's coming up.

01:00:11.000 Also, smart cars, smart roads can help drivers.

01:00:15.000 It is official.

01:00:16.000 The feds say within five years they will remote control your cars.

01:00:20.000 They said they will remote control your cars for your safety.

01:00:24.000 So now it's not just going to be satellite tracker boxes taxing you.

01:00:27.000 That's just to fund all this.

01:00:29.000 Now they will remote control your cars.

01:00:32.000 Large stretches of road that will take full control of your cars.

01:00:36.000 And allow you to drive at speeds of 80 to 90 miles an hour, but they'll be in control of your car.

01:00:40.000 Does that sound nice?

01:00:43.000 Folks, it's happening.

01:00:44.000 That's coming up.

01:00:46.000 Fed acts to counter threat of deflation.

01:00:48.000 Cut interest rates again a couple days ago.

01:00:50.000 They're now approving the deadly anthrax shot for you and your family.

01:00:53.000 Bush has created the new federal agency BioShield.

01:00:56.000 Six plus billion a year to create giant infrastructures for forced inoculation.

01:01:01.000 They already made it the law they can forcibly inoculate you on page 76 of Homeland Security.

01:01:07.000 They're now saying the smallpox shot is safe.

01:01:10.000 Brody appeals for UK to join the Euro.

01:01:12.000 That's coming up.

01:01:14.000 On the edge of a genetic revolution, they're admitting massive global DNA databases.

01:01:19.000 The U.N.

01:01:19.000 is pushing for the blood that's taken from your babies at birth.

01:01:23.000 The USDA plans a livestock tracking system.

01:01:25.000 I warned you about that.

01:01:26.000 That's coming up.

01:01:27.000 All this and more after this quick break.

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01:04:49.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen.

01:05:07.000 We're back live.

01:05:08.000 It is Friday, 27th of June, 2003.

01:05:14.000 And later in this hour, I want to talk about nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad backyard.

01:05:20.000 Now, this is from CNN.

01:05:21.000 And they've already admitted that the so-called mobile bio-weapons trucks I know our media didn't tell you, but the U.S.

01:05:29.000 government admits it now, have been bought from the British, and they also bought some other trucks from the Russians.

01:05:35.000 But the two trucks in question were bought from the British in 1985, in the middle of the Iran-Iraq War.

01:05:41.000 They are for pumping up dirigibles, blimps, for surveillance to direct artillery and trench warfare. 0.87

01:05:48.000 Our government has them.

01:05:50.000 Everybody has them.

01:05:51.000 It's a World War I type technology.

01:05:55.000 They have them on the southern border to surveil, drug interdiction, but our government knew this day one, saw the serial numbers, knew what the trucks were, and told you it was mobile bio-weapons lamps.

01:06:08.000 But there were hundreds of front page stories, and then the retraction is about a paragraph in the back of the paper.

01:06:13.000 That's what it was in the Austin American Statesman.

01:06:16.000 So now, nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad.

01:06:19.000 We've been lied to so many times.

01:06:20.000 They claim that they found them buried under a bush.

01:06:23.000 Yes, a bush in a backyard.

01:06:25.000 Well, it turns out that a real system, the way they describe this, covers about 100 football fields.

01:06:34.000 It's a giant plant.

01:06:36.000 And we have a photo on PrisonPlanet.com That was the news from two days ago.

01:06:41.000 You just click on the archive of what these plants really look like and then they claim they found this in a rose bush.

01:06:46.000 Well, let me just cover this now and then I'll go to Brett and Roger and others that are holding.

01:06:51.000 Nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad backyard.

01:06:54.000 The CIA has its hands on the critical parts of key parts of Iraq's nuclear technology.

01:07:00.000 Parts needed to develop a bomb program that were dug up in the backyard in Baghdad.

01:07:05.000 CNN has learned the parts which With accompanying plans were unearthed by the Iraqi scientist Mahid Obadi, who said he had hidden them under the rosebush in his garden 12 years ago under orders from Kwasi Hussein, one of Saddam Hussein's son-in-laws, Hussein Kamel.

01:07:24.000 It's like a little canister.

01:07:25.000 But it was evidence that Iraqis concealed plans to reconstruct their nuclear program as soon as the world was no longer looking.

01:07:31.000 the concealment of such materials and failure to disclose their presence would have constituted

01:07:36.000 violations of Security Council regulations.

01:07:38.000 But U.S. officials emphasized that it was not evidence that Iraq had a nuclear weapon.

01:07:43.000 It's like a little canister.

01:07:45.000 But it was evidence that Iraqis concealed plans to reconstruct their nuclear program

01:07:49.000 as soon as the world was no longer looking.

01:07:52.000 The parts and documents that the scientists gave the CIA were shown exclusively on CNN

01:07:57.000 at CNN headquarters in Virginia.

01:08:00.000 Nobody told CNN the parts were a gas centrifuge system or enriched uranium or part of a highly

01:08:05.000 sophisticated system.

01:08:06.000 He was ordered to hide, be ready to rebuild the bomb program. 0.67

01:08:10.000 But we show a picture of a gas centrifuge plant and the actual parts in it, according

01:08:16.000 to the government websites we've been to, fill entire warehouses.

01:08:21.000 But they got some parts the size of footballs, little metal canisters, and they're saying this is it.

01:08:28.000 Now, a few weeks ago, they admitted they were so desperate to find weapons of mass destruction, they were, quote, going to give amnesty and pay, in some cases millions of dollars, to people who would go public and say they were part of a nuclear program.

01:08:41.000 Now, it gets worse.

01:08:43.000 They reported in the BBC about two months ago that Tariq Aziz, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, was to be paid upwards of four and a half million dollars a year.

01:08:55.000 It was almost three million pounds a year, so over four million US.

01:09:00.000 And that he was going to live on a hundred plus thousand acre palace of Prince Charles, and was to be given armed bodyguards, helicopter escort, into the shopping centers, into London.

01:09:14.000 I mean, lavish lifestyle, quote, If he would inform on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.

01:09:20.000 Now I don't know where that story went.

01:09:21.000 Where is Tariq Aziz?

01:09:23.000 We hear no discussions of him now.

01:09:26.000 They admit they paid off Iraqi Republican Guard leaders before the war in gold bars, euros and dollars to give up before the war even started.

01:09:36.000 That's admitted.

01:09:36.000 Delta Force flew them out by helicopter.

01:09:40.000 They would simply walk to an open field, the helicopter would land, they'd climb on and get out of there.

01:09:44.000 It happened during the war, this is all admitted, but again, in the back of the paper.

01:09:48.000 The back of the paper once, and you never hear about it again.

01:09:51.000 So I don't believe anything they say.

01:09:53.000 They claim that this African country sold them nuke parts, turned out the whole document was fake.

01:09:58.000 They claimed a bakery in northern Iraq was a bioweapons lab.

01:10:02.000 BBC went in, it was a bakery.

01:10:04.000 They claim they had a secret document written a week before Colin Powell gave a speech.

01:10:08.000 Turned out it was written 12 years before by a graduate student at the University of California at Berkeley.

01:10:16.000 I mean, the lies!

01:10:17.000 They claim to mass graves in that warehouse.

01:10:20.000 You know, the boxes full of sand and bones.

01:10:24.000 Oh look, political dissidents killed.

01:10:27.000 Turned out it was dead Iraqis, dead Iranians, and the Iranians have an exchange program. 0.80

01:10:32.000 They were exchanging dead found from the hundreds of thousands that died on the Iraqi side, millions that were killed on the Iranian side, over a million, in the Iran-Iraq war.

01:10:41.000 Just like we exchange bodies with South and North Korea. 0.56

01:10:45.000 Every couple months you hear about more bodies coming back on jets with American flags on them, usually UN flags on them, from North Korea.

01:10:53.000 So, and I still hear neocon liars, gun grabbers, on the air going, we got mobile weapons labs, we got mass graves, we got blah blah blah, they bought nuclear parts from Niger! 1.00

01:11:06.000 And they know that's not true, they're not stupid! 1.00

01:11:08.000 Probably smarter than I am! 0.99

01:11:12.000 Folks, they're still using the same lies after they've been caught.

01:11:17.000 Okay, let's go to the calls.

01:11:18.000 I'm sorry.

01:11:19.000 Brett in Connecticut, up there in Skull and Bones land.

01:11:22.000 Welcome, Brett.

01:11:22.000 You're on the air.

01:11:24.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:11:25.000 How's the show going?

01:11:25.000 Fantastic.

01:11:26.000 Well, I'm from New York, but I'm just calling you from Connecticut.

01:11:29.000 And the show is great, Alex.

01:11:31.000 I'd just like to say one thing.

01:11:33.000 I believe this might sound a little crazy to you, but I believe that President Kennedy was kind of directed by God when He protected the world pretty much from destruction during the Cuban Missile Crisis and I'd just like to say that I feel in a way that you're kind of the same way by trying to bring out what's happening to the people that you're being directed by God in the same way to try and save the world essentially.

01:12:02.000 Well, I don't think that's strange.

01:12:03.000 And I'd just like to say that to you before I bring up what I was going to talk about.

01:12:07.000 Well, Brett, let me just make a comment on that and then I'll let you go on.

01:12:10.000 Look, but I'm not special.

01:12:12.000 President Kennedy wasn't special.

01:12:13.000 We're all led by God in our lives.

01:12:16.000 Yes, because God works through people, yes.

01:12:19.000 This is a test.

01:12:21.000 This is the junior varsity, the minor leagues here, before we go on to join the big team.

01:12:32.000 Let me add something.

01:12:34.000 Kennedy, for all his corruption and his womanizing and all the rest of it, changed his ways at the end.

01:12:41.000 Woke up, gave speeches at American University and other areas.

01:12:44.000 I have copies of them.

01:12:46.000 I have text from the National Archives, Library of Congress, I'd love video of this, maybe I can find it, I know it exists, where he warned of a great corrupt influence that had taken over our government, Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex, and Kennedy was a hawk, He was pro-war, pro-CIA, pro-all this stuff, and then suddenly he cut taxes, said, I'm abolishing the Federal Reserve, I'm getting us out of Vietnam, I'm going to scatter the CIA to the four winds.

01:13:13.000 He wouldn't go along with nuclear war.

01:13:15.000 He said no to the Northwoods plan.

01:13:18.000 government plan to kill American citizens and blame it on foreign enemies.

01:13:18.000 The U.S.

01:13:22.000 When he saw Northwoods in 1962, that's when his whole outlook changed and they assassinated him six months later.

01:13:29.000 Because Alex, if he had invaded the way the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted him to invade, they had tactical nuclear weapons that were on the ground in Cuba that were going to be used by the local Russian commanders.

01:13:29.000 Go ahead.

01:13:44.000 Frogs. 0.80

01:13:45.000 Exactly.

01:13:46.000 And that would have been the end of the world, because once those TAC nukes were shot against our fleet, our invasion fleet, that would have been the start of the end of the nuclear exchange, you know? 0.52

01:13:57.000 And you're correct, and again, this is documented, I have people involved in the Bay of Pigs on, they were afraid that the Cubans themselves were going to overthrow Fidel.

01:14:07.000 Good, conservative, Christian Cubans. 0.99

01:14:09.000 And this is admitted.

01:14:11.000 The CIA ratted them out at Bay of Pigs to defeat them, to have them on the beach, tied down, And they then thought Kennedy would authorize the invasion.

01:14:19.000 Again, problem, reaction, solution.

01:14:22.000 In fact, the Joint Chiefs even went to Kennedy and they got green-lighted all the way up to him and he said, no. 0.77

01:14:26.000 They said, we want to attack our own Marines at Guantanamo with Army dressed up as Cubans and kill Americans to get the war going. 0.59

01:14:34.000 That's amazing. 0.97

01:14:35.000 That's Northwood, sir.

01:14:36.000 That's a public document.

01:14:37.000 I know.

01:14:38.000 I've read it.

01:14:39.000 I've seen it.

01:14:40.000 Well, for those who don't know, I've got ABC News, Baltimore Sun, OnInfoWars.com reporting it.

01:14:45.000 But not just that, my friend.

01:14:47.000 Not just that.

01:14:48.000 We have the actual Northwood's document.

01:14:52.000 Go ahead.

01:14:53.000 The other thing I wanted to say was, Alex, I've got your video DVD of 9-1-1, Road to Tyranny.

01:15:01.000 I've been giving it to some of my friends and whatnot, but I'm getting a lot of resistance.

01:15:06.000 Some of the more educated people are more open to what you're talking about than the ones that have, like I say, a head in the sand scenario.

01:15:15.000 And I get the same thing that other callers are calling in too, saying they're trying to say that you're paranoid and all this stuff.

01:15:22.000 And it's kind of really...

01:15:24.000 It's very upsetting that these kind of things could be happening in our country and no one cares about it.

01:15:30.000 Well, let me break that down.

01:15:31.000 It's really upsetting.

01:15:33.000 If you've been listening, you've heard some callers say that everyone wakes up, most callers say that a lot of folks wake up, and some say that hardly anyone wakes up.

01:15:42.000 Now, you mentioned that... Well, no, some of them do, but you almost have to...

01:15:49.000 You know, the less intelligent people, I guess.

01:15:51.000 I don't know what it is.

01:15:52.000 I wouldn't even say the more educated.

01:15:54.000 I wouldn't say less intelligent.

01:15:56.000 I would say, like you're saying, yes.

01:15:59.000 But I wouldn't say that it's the more educated.

01:16:02.000 It's those that read more newspapers, study more history, and obviously that's generally going to be more educated.

01:16:07.000 Let me just finish.

01:16:10.000 Because when they see the film, they see a bunch of information that they already were aware of.

01:16:15.000 You see, they know it's true.

01:16:17.000 Someone who's ignorant just goes, well I don't like how this guy looks, I don't know if this is true. 0.89

01:16:23.000 That's pretty much what I wanted to say. 0.95

01:16:25.000 Thanks, Alex, for talking to me.

01:16:26.000 I appreciate it.

01:16:27.000 Hey, God bless you, and thanks for the support, and keep making copies of the films, and keep spreading the word.

01:16:32.000 Thank you so much, sir.

01:16:33.000 We'll come back and talk to Roger and others.

01:16:35.000 I'll get into some more news.

01:16:36.000 InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com are the websites, and I know I'm... Well, we'll be right back.

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01:20:49.000 Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

01:20:55.000 A lot of times on the weekend, I tune into a local rebroadcast of my show on News Talk 1260.

01:21:02.000 KWN, I actually carry my show seven days a week.

01:21:07.000 Live at night, then on Saturdays and Sundays from three to six.

01:21:12.000 In the afternoon I get a chance to hear my show and great callers call in like Brent and they try to make their points and I start running over them and it sounds to me sometimes like I'm trying to show off with information.

01:21:26.000 I'm not.

01:21:27.000 I have this instinctive need to stop callers when they're making a good point and to add information and sources and documents to it Because I know people are driving around out there listening and they're going, oh, this is just made up. 0.76

01:21:39.000 It's ridiculous.

01:21:39.000 No, it's not made up.

01:21:41.000 It's historical fact.

01:21:42.000 You better check out what we're saying.

01:21:45.000 And, you know, frankly, I've listened to other shows.

01:21:47.000 Overall, I let callers say more than 90% of talk shows.

01:21:51.000 I just interrupt people and add my points and then let them go on.

01:21:55.000 And I just thought about how I was behaving in the last segment.

01:21:58.000 I appreciate Brent's call.

01:22:00.000 I was just trying to throw information in there because it's so important.

01:22:04.000 And it really is an information overload.

01:22:06.000 I mean, look at these articles.

01:22:07.000 Unlimited power of arrest.

01:22:09.000 Australia's domestic intelligence agency, ASIO, will have aggressive new powers from today to detain, for an unlimited period, citizens suspected of having information about terrorist offenses.

01:22:21.000 It says that a judge is secretly impaneled, a retired judge.

01:22:25.000 You can be secretly arrested and secretly held for up to five years with no charges.

01:22:31.000 If the judge believes you're not being forthcoming.

01:22:35.000 And it says this will go for the press.

01:22:37.000 And it's not just for terror, it's for all crime.

01:22:40.000 You notice they took most of the guns a few years ago in Australia.

01:22:44.000 Same thing's happening here.

01:22:45.000 I mean, I could spend an hour on this article.

01:22:48.000 I've got a bunch of them.

01:22:50.000 New Law on Terrorism.

01:22:51.000 Racist Specter of Agency Abuse.

01:22:53.000 Abuse.

01:22:54.000 Another article.

01:22:56.000 Unlimited Power of Arrest.

01:22:59.000 I got articles here about how the Feds announced they're going to remote control your cars and control them on the highways now, not just satellite track and tax them, AP.

01:23:06.000 I mean, folks, this is bunker land crazy.

01:23:11.000 They're going to make you tag and control your cows and sheep, and they're going to inspect them, Homeland Security is.

01:23:17.000 Has nothing to do with protecting us.

01:23:18.000 The border's wide open.

01:23:20.000 It's about taxing, and control, and feudalism.

01:23:23.000 Folks, this is horrible!

01:23:25.000 Government is expanding in a thousand directions, taking everything over, and they call it conservative!

01:23:31.000 Let's talk to Roger, and then Wyatt, and Ron, and Spencer, and others.

01:23:36.000 Roger, you're on the air from Pennsylvania.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, thanks, Alex.

01:23:39.000 I just had a laugh left over from the last call, because when, you know, the New Testament says, forever learning, never understanding.

01:23:49.000 And, you know, when the commie Chinese tried to take over the Mongolians, they had kind of a problem there because Mongolians weren't exposed to these Southwest flowery political theories.

01:24:02.000 And so they said, well, let me get this straight.

01:24:03.000 You're going to take all our produce and give it back to us as we need it?

01:24:08.000 No, so they weren't educated yet out of their common sense.

01:24:13.000 Well, I think by educating people that see The Road to Tyranny, that know history, that know its facts, that have seen the documents themselves, are like, wow, I already knew that. 0.91

01:24:23.000 I think he's talking about ignorant people don't respond.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, I know, but it takes a certain amount of education to be duped, as well. 0.97

01:24:30.000 That was my point.

01:24:35.000 I didn't quite state this on whether you're talking, I forget if the head of the INS is still the Clinton hangover, but that's... It doesn't matter.

01:24:44.000 Bush loves Clinton people.

01:24:45.000 Well, the point I wanted to help clarify here is whether it's that or the head of the Border Patrol or the head of the State Department, and you've got to dismiss this notion that the State Department has a life of its own.

01:25:02.000 It does have its own agenda, if left to its own devices, which happens to be the exact same identical... Oh, they always claim that the State Department did something bad.

01:25:11.000 Oh, it's this other federal agency.

01:25:12.000 They're the ones destroying our sovereignty.

01:25:15.000 Thanks for the call, Roger.

01:25:16.000 Gotta let you go.

01:25:17.000 Thanks for the call.

01:25:18.000 Wyatt, Maryland.

01:25:19.000 Wyatt, go ahead.

01:25:19.000 You're on the air.

01:25:20.000 I heard on another station there was a gear up in Saskatchewan County or Saskatchewan, Canada that

01:25:33.000 they were quarantining sheep for scrapies which is like mad cow. I don't know whether what

01:25:41.000 they're doing. Well they had mad cow pop up in Saskatchewan province and now it showed up

01:25:46.000 according to the Billings Gazette in Nebraska. Right well that's what they're going to be

01:25:51.000 using just like they did with hoof and mouth Oh, they said the feds are going to take over all cows and sheep so they know what you own so they can come kill it later. 1.00

01:26:00.000 And of course it was the British government that was caught releasing foot-and-mouth source on that London Telegraph.

01:26:05.000 Anything else you want to add?

01:26:07.000 Yeah, have you heard, what's the story with the chemical warfare trucks that were brought into the DeSoto National Park?

01:26:14.000 I haven't heard anything from that anymore.

01:26:16.000 Remember when they were in a customs lot?

01:26:19.000 It was hundreds and hundreds of vehicles.

01:26:20.000 Yeah, why don't you recap the listener's memory on that.

01:26:24.000 Stay there, Wyatt.

01:26:24.000 Don't hang up.

01:26:25.000 Come back and let you finish.

01:26:26.000 And we've got Glenn Spencer coming on, but we'll go right to your calls, too.

01:26:29.000 Ron and Spencer and others.

01:26:31.000 We'll be right back.

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01:27:00.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

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01:27:13.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:27:19.000 The federal government is passing laws where citizens have absolutely no rights.

01:27:24.000 They're doing it in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, while bringing in masses of illegal aliens and accepting Fake ID cards. 0.91

01:27:35.000 And I've noticed, whatever happens in Australia happens here, happens in England.

01:27:40.000 All being deployed at different rates.

01:27:42.000 Some things that are employed by the government, put into effect, activated, authorized, happen here in the U.S.

01:27:50.000 before they happen in the U.K.

01:27:51.000 or they happen before they happen here, they'll happen in Australia.

01:27:56.000 And I've got articles here where you have absolutely no rights, police are being militarized, all this is happening, while illegals get more and more welfare, tuition, health care, everything you can imagine. 0.97

01:28:10.000 In the last hour at Colorado Senate, President John Andrews talked about how another congressman from Iowa has been at town hall meetings and has talked to witnesses and has talked to community leaders who say, this is Mexico, And we're getting rid of America and that's just the way it is.

01:28:28.000 So Mexico has been so arrogant. 0.95

01:28:30.000 The Fortune 500 that's funding the breakup of America has been so arrogant that people are starting to wake up across the board that this is part of the New World Order.

01:28:41.000 As Glenn Spencer says, our sovereignty is being sacrificed on the altar of globalism.

01:28:47.000 So Glenn Spencer is coming up in a few minutes from AmericanPatrol.com.

01:28:51.000 Just amazing folks.

01:28:53.000 Really having an effect.

01:28:54.000 We'll talk about their activities in there, Glenn's expert analysis of the situation, the state of the country right now, and this all-important issue of the borders and sovereignty, and the billions, not the millions, the billions of people that are trying to come to this country, and the 25 million illegals that are here right now.

01:29:15.000 But I did want to give a caller who didn't have much time, about a minute or so, to finish up the point he was making.

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01:31:46.000 Now, real quick, Wyatt, you were trying to talk about a story where they found these chemical weapon lab trucks And the government had let them through, and they were held at some base, and you wanted to comment on that, talking about national security.

01:32:00.000 Go ahead, real quick.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, there was a story, I think it broke around 94 through 96.

01:32:05.000 It was in Mississippi, and there was, I think it was in the DeSoto National Park, a portion of it, the big park, National Park, that there was about We have photos of that on Infowars.com in the photo section.

01:32:18.000 warfare trucks that were imported from eastern bloc countries and brought over and stored

01:32:25.000 in a customs lot in the middle, not in the middle, but inside this national park.

01:32:32.000 Let me comment on that.

01:32:33.000 I'm going to let you go because we've got Lynn Spencer waiting. 1.00

01:32:35.000 It's a good question.

01:32:37.000 We have photos of that on Infowars.com in the photo section.

01:32:42.000 We have photos of concentration camps marked in Russian.

01:32:47.000 Then I have video, and I'm talking about barbed wire, machine gun nests, guard towers.

01:32:53.000 And then, if that's not enough for you, in Police State to the Takeover, I have Cooperative Nugget 96 and 97 with foreign troops, Czechoslovakian, Russian, and others, admittedly with the top general, the U.S.

01:33:06.000 General, saying, you are the forces of the New World Order, and this is for domestic action.

01:33:12.000 So that is going on.

01:33:13.000 Now it's official.

01:33:15.000 Alright, wanted to get that out of the way.

01:33:16.000 I appreciate Glenn Spencer holding, and coming up we'll get to Ron and Spencer and others that are holding it right now.

01:33:21.000 Glenn Spencer of AmericanPatrol.com, the organization American Border Patrol, and they stand up against the racist Hispanic Ku Klux Klan of Mecha and La Raza.

01:33:36.000 They have Hispanic members, black members, you name it.

01:33:38.000 A lot of my friends are members right here in Austin, Texas.

01:33:41.000 They stand up with 80 plus percent of the American people for controlling our borders and our sovereignty. 0.79

01:33:47.000 Glenn Spencer told us it was a war to take over our sovereignty years ago.

01:33:51.000 That Washington was aiding and funding this along with President Bush and the Democrats.

01:33:57.000 He's been totally vindicated.

01:33:59.000 And now he's moved from California that he says is officially fallen.

01:34:03.000 And now look at the straits it's in.

01:34:05.000 He's now moving out to Arizona.

01:34:09.000 Well, someone once said it's a good thing God designed time, invented time, because everything would happen at once.

01:34:28.000 But it seems that everything is being compressed in time because there is so much going on at once right now.

01:34:34.000 We have the border wars, we have the info wars, we have the Mexican We have the matriculate consular card wars. 0.70

01:34:42.000 We have the war over California, the war over Greg Davis, who will be recalled.

01:34:50.000 He's going to be fired.

01:34:51.000 He's the governor of California.

01:34:53.000 There's just so many things we have to kind of pick and choose, just as I did when I decided that there was nothing that could be done for California, that it would fall of its own weight.

01:35:04.000 And I moved here to the border to essentially make a last stand.

01:35:09.000 And we're having a great deal of success.

01:35:14.000 Glenn, break it down for us.

01:35:15.000 What is this border issue?

01:35:18.000 What's behind it?

01:35:20.000 And are we now seeing people begin to wake up to this?

01:35:25.000 Nothing can explain it better than a reporter who was here yesterday.

01:35:29.000 His name was Luke.

01:35:33.000 He's a border reporter for the Tucson Citizen, a Gannett newspaper.

01:35:38.000 And I've talked to him for about nine months, and he finally came down and spent a day with me.

01:35:43.000 We went to the border.

01:35:45.000 He saw our system.

01:35:46.000 And by the way, if you hear a beep, beep, beep, beep, beep during our conversation, that means that one of our border sensors has gone off and we've detected illegal aliens coming into the United States.

01:35:58.000 He saw what we were doing.

01:35:59.000 He saw our high technology, our unmanned aerial vehicles, our border sensors, our satellite internet system. 0.77

01:36:07.000 And he said, my gosh, you know, the idea that they would be calling you vigilantes is silly.

01:36:13.000 But as he really warmed up, he said this.

01:36:16.000 He said, I want you to understand something.

01:36:18.000 I'm a reporter.

01:36:20.000 And, but I will tell you that if, if you continue to do what you are doing here, This could be the biggest story of the year.

01:36:29.000 Because you have to understand, he said, the Border Patrol is one of the most secretive agencies in the government.

01:36:36.000 He said their newspaper, a Gannett newspaper, can't get anything out of them.

01:36:41.000 They requested just a copy of their budget.

01:36:44.000 They refused to release a copy of their budget.

01:36:48.000 They had to submit a Freedom of Information Act request.

01:36:51.000 They said it would take two years.

01:36:54.000 The Border Patrol is being run by a bunch of anti-Americans who do not want America to know what's going on at the border.

01:37:03.000 And what we are about to do here, Alex, is cut through that nonsense and tell America directly.

01:37:12.000 How many people are crossing the border?

01:37:14.000 Where they are crossing?

01:37:15.000 We will show you pictures of them.

01:37:17.000 We will get an actual count.

01:37:20.000 And we will find out who and when and what.

01:37:25.000 And we're doing it.

01:37:26.000 Now, Glenn Spencer, your description sounds like the Bat Cave, and it's great, and it didn't grow overnight.

01:37:32.000 No.

01:37:32.000 You were instrumental with others in the front lines getting the different propositions passed to watch Gray Davis just throw them out as a dictator, and they're now saying that it may, quote, be legal to have a recall.

01:37:44.000 It's criminal to have a recall.

01:37:46.000 The Democrats are trying to say that.

01:37:48.000 The Republican replacements aren't really any better if it's Arnie and others, but there are some decent people.

01:37:55.000 You were there, you made films, you went to rallies, you went to protests, you were attacked by the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan.

01:38:03.000 All of this stuff happened.

01:38:05.000 You found out that Washington and the Fortune 500 were funding all this.

01:38:08.000 Yes.

01:38:09.000 You basically pulled back to your Alamo there in Arizona, the new front line with millions a year coming across just in Cochise County.

01:38:18.000 Federal officers are being killed.

01:38:20.000 If you try to help the federal officers that are being killed, people are being arrested. 0.98

01:38:24.000 The illegals are robbing and pillaging and killing. 1.00

01:38:28.000 Yes. 1.00

01:38:28.000 You know, there's foreign troops running around down there. 1.00

01:38:31.000 You know, mainstream news.

01:38:32.000 All of this is happening.

01:38:34.000 So, over the years you've built this up.

01:38:36.000 You've got your sensors on people's ranches and areas.

01:38:39.000 You've got your drones, private drones.

01:38:41.000 The government's drones are going to be used to watch our cities.

01:38:44.000 Right.

01:38:44.000 You're down there fighting and you're showing people that they don't want the American people to know that while they tell us to give up our liberty for security and give up our rights, that there is no border.

01:38:55.000 Oh, there's no question about it.

01:38:58.000 I mean, we have our first batch of 25 sensors.

01:39:05.000 This is a brand new design, manufactured right here from the component level, with some of the top circuit designers in the country working with us.

01:39:14.000 We've come up with a new system, a new whole idea of sensing people coming across the border.

01:39:21.000 Radio signals are sent up to repeaters on hilltops, mountaintops, and then sent to our headquarters.

01:39:27.000 So anybody walking along the border, now we built 25 of these prototypes.

01:39:31.000 They work beautifully.

01:39:32.000 We only have 8 of them right now installed.

01:39:35.000 But we're installing about 2 a day.

01:39:37.000 We hope to get up to 4 a day.

01:39:38.000 We're ordering 500 of them.

01:39:41.000 These will be installed on the border.

01:39:43.000 We are now getting a hit just out of these 8 that we have out there.

01:39:47.000 About 1 every 3 hours we pick up a group coming across the border.

01:39:51.000 Just imagine when we have 500 of them out there.

01:39:55.000 We're going to know when anybody steps across that border.

01:39:58.000 We're going to know about it, and we're going to tell the Border Patrol.

01:40:00.000 We're going to send unmanned aerial vehicles over to take their picture, send that over the internet, and show the American people that this little group, just using donated funds, just using the money and using the technology of some very clever Americans, can do this job and embarrass As I said on CNN the other day, on the Wolf Blitzer Report, if we have to embarrass our country, our government, to do its job, so be it.

01:40:28.000 And we are getting the attention just as you are calling.

01:40:31.000 I got a call from ABC News in Phoenix.

01:40:33.000 They're sending a crew down there.

01:40:35.000 We have sent live video images from our UAV out over Lester Holt Live on MSNBC.

01:40:42.000 So millions of people could look right down on the border from our airplane in a high-resolution camera, color camera, and see people walking along this trail leading into the United States.

01:40:54.000 And we did that live.

01:40:56.000 And of course we were on with Michael Savage, also on MSNBC.

01:41:02.000 We were on CNN the other night.

01:41:05.000 Blitzer had again live pictures of our U.S.

01:41:08.000 I think we just lost Glenn's cell phone.

01:41:14.000 Bad connection.

01:41:14.000 We'll try to reconnect and get Glenn Spencer back on.

01:41:19.000 And you notice the neocons will talk about some of the real issues and have good folks like Glenn Spencer on, but in the end equation they don't put the heat on Lord Bush, who can stop all this basically instantaneously.

01:41:31.000 And they've now ordered Border Patrol not to stop the illegals.

01:41:34.000 They've ordered them instead to go out on trash detail and pick up trash.

01:41:39.000 They've ordered them not to shoot back at Mexican troops, in some cases they're 20 miles over the border shooting at them.

01:41:44.000 Federal officers, Border Patrol, Park Service have been killed.

01:41:48.000 They're shooting up vehicles on a weekly basis, multiple times monthly.

01:41:53.000 The foreign troops are.

01:41:56.000 And this is the reality.

01:41:58.000 This is the reality of what's happening.

01:42:02.000 And then we have a congressman from right there in Arizona, Grill Halva, saying that, hey, this is Mexico.

01:42:09.000 So, this is the reality, my friends, and the majority of Americans, regardless of color, know this is common sense, know you don't have a country without borders and sovereignty, and we have got to support what Glenn Spencer and others are doing, and by Glenn having these sensors and these drones and these cameras, and just showing in their little corner of this fight what's happening, it shows how the Border Patrol's doing nothing.

01:42:35.000 Glenn, good to have you back on.

01:42:37.000 Sorry, we got disconnected.

01:42:38.000 I don't know where we were, because I was on a monologue.

01:42:41.000 No, well, you were making a lot of good points, is what you were doing.

01:42:44.000 But, Glenn, now... Oh, oh, oh, just a second.

01:42:49.000 Did you hear that?

01:42:51.000 Yes.

01:42:52.000 Okay, that is our sensor going off.

01:42:55.000 Okay, this is right down by the San Pedro River coming into Arizona.

01:43:00.000 We just picked up five people.

01:43:03.000 You just heard it.

01:43:05.000 Five people?

01:43:06.000 Five people.

01:43:08.000 Wow.

01:43:08.000 Our sensors are computerized and we count them.

01:43:12.000 You just heard it.

01:43:13.000 Yes, I did.

01:43:16.000 And it flashes up on a computer screen.

01:43:18.000 It gives the exact location and the exact number of people.

01:43:22.000 And now on national TV you've had your drones out.

01:43:24.000 No, this is not.

01:43:25.000 We're not sending this out right yet.

01:43:27.000 No, I meant... Until we get all of our testing done.

01:43:30.000 I'm talking about your drones.

01:43:32.000 But we will eventually, but we will not do this, we will not give the actual locations up on the internet, and there's a reason for that.

01:43:43.000 These people are attacked, murdered, and robbed by Mexican bandits, no matter where they are.

01:43:50.000 And if we showed them where they were, they would be subject to attack, not by Americans, but by their own countrymen. 0.70

01:43:57.000 Yeah, by the coyotes.

01:43:58.000 By the coyotes.

01:44:01.000 So we will show live video pictures eventually, or we can do it now, but we don't do it every day.

01:44:07.000 That's what I was talking about.

01:44:08.000 We can look down and see them, but you won't know exactly where they are.

01:44:12.000 We don't give the exact location to anyone except the Border Patrol.

01:44:17.000 Now, what about Morris Sleaze?

01:44:19.000 Oh, gosh.

01:44:20.000 He's trying to shut down Americans, showing the federal crimes being committed by the tens of thousands every day.

01:44:26.000 Right.

01:44:27.000 What's going on with him right now?

01:44:29.000 Well, he's after us.

01:44:30.000 He's after me.

01:44:32.000 He and the Southern Poverty Law Center have tied up, have joined in with a gal by the name of Isabel Garcia and her group, Derechos Humanos.

01:44:42.000 Commodities.

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01:44:46.000 Yeah, if you don't put water centers out there and emergency packs and don't give them basically

01:44:53.000 a first class railway ticket in here, you're evil.

01:44:56.000 So stay there, Glenn Spencer.

01:44:57.000 We'll talk about it on the other side when we get back and talk more about those drones.

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01:48:01.000 Listeners can probably hear Gwen Spencer and myself hyperventilating on the air.

01:48:16.000 Glenn said, I don't know where to start.

01:48:17.000 There's so much.

01:48:19.000 Time is being compressed.

01:48:20.000 He talks about a last stand.

01:48:23.000 You're not in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California.

01:48:27.000 You don't know, folks.

01:48:28.000 There is no border.

01:48:30.000 There are tens of millions of people trying to come here.

01:48:34.000 And they come from an existence of living in cardboard boxes.

01:48:36.000 I don't blame them, but it's driving down the wages.

01:48:39.000 Even the white-collar workers are now losing their jobs to India.

01:48:43.000 They're importing the high-tech laborers.

01:48:45.000 This is about destroying the middle class, bringing in a new world order. 1.00

01:48:51.000 And Glenn Morris Dees.

01:48:53.000 I mean, the guy is a piece of work.

01:48:54.000 His training manuals say that constitutionalists, gun owners, people that don't like the UN are bad.

01:49:00.000 They're demonizing whole classes of society, but defending Mecha and La Raza, truly racist organizations.

01:49:09.000 I mean, La Raza means the race. 1.00

01:49:11.000 Mecha says, you know, push all the whites out, kill them. 1.00

01:49:14.000 They said it on TV, on their websites. 1.00

01:49:17.000 This is wrong.

01:49:18.000 I've spoken out against the Klan and spoken out against everybody, but how did they get this free ride and are we starting to see a shift to them not getting a free ride?

01:49:28.000 Well, I don't see it.

01:49:33.000 I think I see Americans getting the shaft. 0.96

01:49:36.000 Well, they're still getting the free ride.

01:49:37.000 I know people who are ill and cannot get in to see doctors.

01:49:42.000 We know in Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, if you go to a hospital and you're not a resident of Los Angeles County, they will throw you out, even though you're a U.S.

01:49:53.000 citizen.

01:49:54.000 But if you go to a hospital in Los Angeles County, you happen to have a county address, and you're an illegal alien, they take you in.

01:50:01.000 So they're throwing out citizens onto the street, And taking care of illegal aliens. 1.00

01:50:07.000 So I don't see any reversal in this.

01:50:11.000 That's a fact.

01:50:12.000 It just depends on how far you can push the American people.

01:50:18.000 Apparently, you can push them into the ocean before they do anything.

01:50:21.000 That's what we're getting to see.

01:50:23.000 And by the way, while we were talking, we got another hit on a sensor.

01:50:28.000 About a mile away from the other one.

01:50:29.000 A group coming in.

01:50:31.000 They come up this San Pedro River, because it's lined with trees out here in the desert.

01:50:35.000 And it has trees on the other side.

01:50:36.000 And they walk up, and the Border Patrol knows they come up there.

01:50:40.000 But they don't do anything about it.

01:50:41.000 Now we're going to be flying our drones over that river on a regular basis and sending pictures back.

01:50:47.000 We'll say, here they are, here they are, here they are, and where's the border patrol?

01:50:51.000 We're going to do that every day and every night.

01:50:54.000 They're coming in right now, even as we speak.

01:50:56.000 We got two alerts while we're sitting here.

01:50:58.000 They're walking right up this river, right into the United States, and nobody's doing anything about it, and we're going to tell the people.

01:51:05.000 And while we're on the air, you heard that beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep?

01:51:08.000 Those are our ground sensors going off.

01:51:10.000 The Patrol knows they're there, and they don't do anything about it.

01:51:15.000 In the heartland of America, they set up checkpoints and search everybody's car and throw our goods out on the road.

01:51:21.000 And when they catch illegals, even vans packed with illegals, the INS orders the police not to arrest them and to let them go. 0.63

01:51:29.000 That's right.

01:51:29.000 Now, if you were an American citizen, caught driving without a license, you would be cited, right?

01:51:36.000 And you would be given an order to appear.

01:51:38.000 And if you didn't appear, they'd come and arrest you.

01:51:40.000 These people, they just let go!

01:51:42.000 I mean, this is a super citizenship.

01:51:46.000 That means they have all the rights you do, but no obligations, no responsibilities.

01:51:51.000 This is wonderful.

01:51:54.000 Well, the new matricula, they find guys with six different matriculas in their pocket, three different ones, twelve different ones in one case.

01:52:00.000 They'll just issue them to anybody.

01:52:01.000 Now all these foreign countries are saying they'll do it.

01:52:04.000 800 cities are saying they're going along with it.

01:52:07.000 Oh, this is great.

01:52:10.000 You know, you don't need a driver's license anymore.

01:52:12.000 You get into an accident, you know what we're going to start doing?

01:52:14.000 We're going to start printing up consular, matricular consular cards for anybody who wants to log on to our website.

01:52:21.000 You might want to do it too.

01:52:22.000 Just charge them 15 bucks, and you print it up and send it to them.

01:52:26.000 And then when they get stopped by the cops, just hand it to them.

01:52:29.000 You know?

01:52:31.000 Say I'm from Belize.

01:52:33.000 Here's my consular card.

01:52:35.000 What do you mean you're not going to take it?

01:52:36.000 You're discriminating against me just because I speak English?

01:52:41.000 Yeah, I think that's the answer.

01:52:42.000 Glenn, can you stay with us a little bit longer?

01:52:44.000 Sure.

01:52:45.000 Alright, I want to take some calls from Ron and Spencer and others that are holding and maybe play some of these clips that Glenn's got.

01:52:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:53:37.000 Alright folks, we've got Glenn Spencer from AmericanPatrol.com on the line with us.

01:53:42.000 Earlier we had the head of the Senate of Colorado, Senate President John Andrews on, where he said that we basically have a governmental movement using a race consciousness out of Mexico to take over the U.S.

01:54:02.000 and Washington is funding it.

01:54:04.000 9-1-1 repeat would be fault of Bush, Congressman, GOP lawmaker charges.

01:54:09.000 That's what Tom Tancredo said, and Lord Bush is saying he's going to target Tancredo for defeat in re-election, but he doesn't have a chance of doing it because Tancredo is so popular.

01:54:18.000 We got Glenn Spencer on with us, and we are going to get to Ron and Spencer and others here in a second.

01:54:24.000 Glenn, I've got this article here.

01:54:25.000 This is out of Wildcat News.

01:54:28.000 Anniversary sparks Mecha reunion.

01:54:32.000 And it says that it's about the revolutionary movement of Oslon, and they're in the public schools, basically, teaching the little kids this... I mean, could we have... I mean, I wouldn't want to, but could we have the Aryan nations teach little white kids about race consciousness? 0.76

01:54:48.000 Of course not!

01:54:50.000 Of course not!

01:54:52.000 Because anything that is anti-white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male is OK. 0.95

01:54:59.000 You have to understand that.

01:55:01.000 Anything that's anti-wasp, anti-white Anglo-Saxon Protestant can be done. 0.67

01:55:10.000 Anything done by white Anglo-Saxon Protestant males This is a war on the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male. 0.80

01:55:22.000 Pure and simple. 0.77

01:55:23.000 He is to be targeted. 1.00

01:55:25.000 He is to be eliminated. 0.99

01:55:27.000 This is the final solution. 0.96

01:55:29.000 Now, this ethnic cleansing against white Anglo-Saxon Protestant males is being run by a bunch of white Anglo-Saxon Protestant males out of New York.

01:55:38.000 Why are they doing this, Glenn?

01:55:40.000 I don't know.

01:55:42.000 That's the 64 billion dollar question.

01:55:44.000 Well you said it's to, you told, you said before it's to drive down wages, get people to vote.

01:55:49.000 I don't know why these, I know why some of them are doing it, they're paid to do it.

01:55:52.000 And destroy national sovereignty.

01:55:54.000 Destroy national sovereignty?

01:55:57.000 I mean we had yesterday on our feature, we had this Victor Davis Hanson who wrote the book, Mexifornia, A State of Becoming.

01:56:05.000 Buchanan asked him, he is a professor, he's a well-known writer, an intellect, Buchanan says, why is it that all the politicians, or most of them, are seemingly paralyzed when dealing with what is an invasion from Mexico?

01:56:20.000 And Hansen says, I don't know.

01:56:22.000 It baffles me.

01:56:24.000 Well, me too.

01:56:25.000 There's something going on that is just inexplicable.

01:56:29.000 It's like the invasion of the body snatchers.

01:56:33.000 Well, Glenn, you said it over and over again.

01:56:35.000 You said America's being sacrificed on the altar of globalism.

01:56:39.000 The UN documents say they want to get rid of all borders and sovereignty.

01:56:42.000 Yeah, but the Ford Foundation certainly puts up the money.

01:56:47.000 They created the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund, MALDEF.

01:56:52.000 They created the National Council of the Race, or the National Council of La Raza.

01:56:58.000 They financed the National Lawyers Guild, once described by the Congress as the legal bulwark of the Communist Party in America.

01:57:06.000 We know that the Mexican government wants to conquer the Southwest.

01:57:10.000 We know the Ford Foundation wants to destroy all borders.

01:57:14.000 But what we don't know, What baffles us is why elected representatives of the American people have turned against the people themselves!

01:57:24.000 As if they hate!

01:57:25.000 It's like self-flagellation! 0.92

01:57:27.000 It's like a bunch of Iranians marching down the street beating themselves with pom-poms! 1.00

01:57:33.000 This is irrational!

01:57:35.000 It's as if we are on a guilt trip!

01:57:38.000 For having succeeded so well and others having failed.

01:57:42.000 So we are to be destroyed because of our success.

01:57:45.000 It's some kind of mass insanity.

01:57:49.000 Glenn Spencer, stay there, I promise these callers will get to him.

01:57:51.000 Ron Spencer, others that are holding, toll-free number to join us on air.

01:57:55.000 If you want to talk to Glenn Spencer, 800-259-9231.

01:57:58.000 And I want to recap that, folks.

01:58:02.000 You can have groups called the Rates, calling for all white people to be physically kicked out of the U.S., kicked out of the Southwest, and that's acceptable. 1.00

01:58:11.000 It is not acceptable.

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02:01:22.000 Alright, we're talking to Glenn Spencer of AmericanPatrol.com.

02:01:28.000 He was out in California.

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02:01:51.000 Now he's in Arizona and he's got surveillance drones out in the desert.

02:01:56.000 They've got sensors.

02:01:57.000 He was on Lester Holt live and streamed some of the video of the invasion.

02:02:02.000 The Border Patrol will not show up, will not do anything.

02:02:05.000 We're going to talk to Ron Spencer, Jason, a few other callers, and then I want Glenn Spencer to tell us what MECHA is, what La Raza is, how it's funded by the white boys over at the Ford Foundation, a bunch of socialists using racial consciousness, the politically correct racial consciousness, to take over society.

02:02:24.000 It's a powerful force.

02:02:26.000 They're doing it.

02:02:27.000 And then now how, of course, the Southern Poverty Law Center is trying to cover Glenn Spencer for simply showing video of illegals committing felonies.

02:02:37.000 Glenn, anything else you want to throw in real quick before we go to these callers?

02:02:40.000 Well, just this.

02:02:42.000 Just like you should support Alex, we are supported by the American people.

02:02:48.000 And what we need to do is talk to our friends and say, look, people like Morris Dees, you know he has $135 million in the bank.

02:02:58.000 They bring in about $30 million a year.

02:03:02.000 He makes, personally, $258,000 a year.

02:03:06.000 My gosh.

02:03:07.000 You know, if we had the kind of money Morris Dee's had, we could have this border controlled in a New York minute.

02:03:13.000 But the word has to go out that the American people, this has to be like a march of dimes. 0.71

02:03:20.000 But it has to be, you know, a march of the people and their pennies and nickels and dimes and, yes, dollars have to go to people like Alex Jones and American Border Patrol.

02:03:31.000 And we have to let the people know that we're going to have to do it ourselves, set up a little tin can up there, save a few bucks each week, think about cutting back on those McDonald's hamburgers and put a little, put a few dollars away each week and help one of these groups.

02:03:47.000 Well, absolutely, and you certainly, you've done films, you've done all these rallies, you've educated people, you have not compromised, and it is bearing fruit.

02:03:59.000 And folks, we don't have a country if we don't control our border.

02:04:01.000 It's destroying our wages, it's destroying our sovereignty, and the Ford Foundation and the federal government has said it is about destroying borders and our sovereignty and the Pan American Union.

02:04:13.000 It's like education that Bush has signed on to with UNESCO, the United Nations.

02:04:17.000 They say, we read their document last week, The family is a disease and must be eradicated.

02:04:23.000 And then you wonder why the family's being destroyed, why the policies destroy the family.

02:04:27.000 Just like they're destroying the border.

02:04:29.000 Their goal, Bush says he'll sign the assault weapons ban that Clinton passed.

02:04:34.000 He's gonna add stuff to it.

02:04:37.000 Bush knows that 80 plus percent of Americans, including Hispanics, want the border controlled, want national sovereignty.

02:04:44.000 It's common sense.

02:04:45.000 You said you don't know why the government, despite this, won't do what's constitutional and the will of the people.

02:04:50.000 How do we pressure Lord Bush to not go along with destroying America?

02:04:56.000 Well, we'll try, we'll keep trying everything we can.

02:05:00.000 You know, while, just before you called, because of this, just before we got on the air, because of this drone and these sensors have caught the imagination of the American people.

02:05:10.000 I just got a call from ABC TV.

02:05:13.000 They're coming down from Phoenix while we're on the air.

02:05:16.000 My assistant just handed me a note.

02:05:18.000 U.S.

02:05:19.000 News and World Report wants to talk to me.

02:05:21.000 We have TV, all kinds of people coming down here, because I think they know we're about to blow the lid off of these things, just like you do with your videos.

02:05:29.000 And you said that the reporter yesterday said it's obvious you're not a vigilante, it's obvious you're not bad.

02:05:34.000 Right.

02:05:35.000 You guys try to go down and cover the murder of federal officers by illegals, by coyotes, by drug dealers, by Mexican troops, and the media and Morris Dees says that you're bad.

02:05:46.000 I mean, that's crazy.

02:05:47.000 We just got a call.

02:05:48.000 It was yesterday morning.

02:05:49.000 I was down again on the San Pedro River.

02:05:51.000 There's an estate down there.

02:05:53.000 A caretaker, the guy who owns the estate, gave him approval to call us.

02:05:56.000 They are so frightened now.

02:05:59.000 They have a little caretaker cabin.

02:06:01.000 They're starting to pound on the windows of the cabin because they want something, and they're windows, and these people are becoming dangerous.

02:06:08.000 And three days before that, we were down there with this reporter from the Tucson Citizen.

02:06:16.000 He was down with another rancher, and his wife was born in this ranch house 53 years ago.

02:06:22.000 She used to go out and ride on the border with her horse and her dog as a 10-year-old kitten.

02:06:26.000 Her mother didn't worry about it. 1.00

02:06:27.000 She's afraid to leave the ranch house now! 1.00

02:06:31.000 You have to understand what's going on down here.

02:06:33.000 People are frightened to death in their own homes.

02:06:36.000 People have lived here forever.

02:06:40.000 Look, there's been murders, there's been killings, there's been robberies, and millions of illegals. 0.88

02:06:45.000 It's got to be stopped.

02:06:46.000 Let's talk to Ron in New York, and then Spencer, Jason, and others.

02:06:50.000 Ron, you're on the air.

02:06:51.000 Thanks for holding.

02:06:52.000 How do you do, gentlemen?

02:06:54.000 Well, initially I called about several things, but he kept touching on this issue about the border.

02:07:00.000 I have some information.

02:07:01.000 As a matter of fact, I wanted to speak to you about it much sooner and forgot.

02:07:05.000 I read a civil service journal in New York, where I come from, and the Border Patrol is hiring police for the border.

02:07:15.000 Now, I found it very odd that the requirements for this job were that you had to be fluent in Spanish.

02:07:23.000 Now, hold on.

02:07:23.000 That's correct.

02:07:24.000 It goes further.

02:07:26.000 One of the processes of recruitment, or I guess the processes of hiring you, is that you go in front of a three-man panel in which they make a determination as to whether you're sensitive enough to the needs of other people.

02:07:44.000 Now, you don't have to be, or go any further, you don't have to be... Well, let me stop you, let me stop you, Ron.

02:07:50.000 And they train police, it's been in the news, we've had them on, to be mean to us, to be separate from us, to boss us around, but with Border Patrol they've got to be these little loving social workers, and I would add, that thousands have quit to go be air marshals where they get more money, and so there's actually less Border Patrol now than there was a few years ago, correct Glenn?

02:08:09.000 That is correct.

02:08:10.000 They have lost quite a few people to the Air Marshal program.

02:08:13.000 Gentlemen, if I might interject, what I think is going on here is a step beyond I think what either one of you bring up.

02:08:20.000 No, no, you're absolutely right.

02:08:22.000 We're very familiar with that.

02:08:23.000 It's tempting to recruit people who are in fact amiable to the idea Let me underline what you just said.

02:08:32.000 that border. That's quite clear. They're looking to choose people, they're looking to go through the motions of making

02:08:37.000 it appear that there's border security, yet the very securities, the very police personnel on that border are amiable.

02:08:45.000 We have a report... Let me underline what you just said. A rancher reported to me that he had reported four illegals

02:08:55.000 on his ranch.

02:08:56.000 The Border Patrol came and picked them up, and the first thing the lead Border Patrol agent, who was Hispanic, did was shake the hand of one of the illegals.

02:09:06.000 This is what I'm saying, and this is being done.

02:09:08.000 You've got to understand something, too.

02:09:10.000 People gotta wake up to the fact that you're actually paying because, of course, the Border Patrol is paid for by our tax revenue.

02:09:18.000 You're paying for the rope that's being used to hang you.

02:09:21.000 I agree, Ron, but it's about the hospitals are blown out.

02:09:25.000 You can't get into an emergency room.

02:09:27.000 In California, the illegals get more tuition than citizens. 0.99

02:09:30.000 It is about bringing this country down.

02:09:32.000 Thanks for the call, Ron.

02:09:34.000 Really good point.

02:09:35.000 Spencer in Ohio, you're on the air with Glenn Spencer.

02:09:37.000 Go ahead.

02:09:38.000 Yes, Sir Alex.

02:09:40.000 I'm trying to figure out why JFK vetoed Operation North.

02:09:44.000 Well, because it was an extremely corrupt plan created by the U.S.

02:09:49.000 government.

02:09:50.000 But that's all secondary compared to these satellite drones.

02:09:57.000 These satellite drones have atomic capabilities.

02:10:00.000 Or laser capabilities?

02:10:02.000 And how do they undermine inalienable, unalienable rights?

02:10:06.000 Okay, sir, I appreciate the call.

02:10:08.000 All new cell phones are satellite-tracked.

02:10:10.000 Federal law went into effect October 26, 2000.

02:10:14.000 As for Northwoods, that was a U.S.

02:10:15.000 government terror plan operation that we've talked about a lot.

02:10:19.000 Let's go back to Glenn Spencer.

02:10:20.000 I just heard one of your motion sensors with the illegals pouring across the property. 0.97

02:10:24.000 That is correct.

02:10:25.000 Now this was in a canyon that comes out of the Huachuca Mountains that climb up over the top of those mountains and they come out through the canyons.

02:10:32.000 Now this is a sensor that's up in a deep canyon.

02:10:35.000 We had to put a repeater, a slave repeater up because these neighbors up here came to us and said we're just at our wits end.

02:10:43.000 Last Sunday morning a guy called me and says I've got 40 of them in my backyard.

02:10:47.000 I can't take this anymore.

02:10:49.000 So we went up and put sensors up in these canyons and they're flooding out of these canyons.

02:10:53.000 This is only about three miles from where I'm standing right now.

02:10:57.000 So, you've got eight sensors out there in the desert?

02:11:00.000 We're going to have 25 by hopefully Monday.

02:11:02.000 We hope to have 500.

02:11:03.000 Now, these things are about $200 a piece.

02:11:06.000 The Border Patrol sensors, well, maybe about $250.

02:11:09.000 The Border Patrol sensors are $1,500 a piece, but we've come up with a smarter design.

02:11:14.000 So, you know, one of the things that we do on AmericanBorderPatrol.com is to raise the money to buy these things and get them put out there.

02:11:22.000 But yeah, the ones we have out there are going off like mad.

02:11:26.000 We've had three of them since we've been on the air.

02:11:28.000 Three of the eight!

02:11:29.000 Glenn, I know you've been on a lot of the big news shows.

02:11:31.000 You've been very articulate and torn up the racists funded by the bankers who are trying to break the country down.

02:11:39.000 What about getting people locally in border towns to demand radio shows be put on the air to expose this, to mobilize the general population in the area?

02:11:52.000 Well, that's what we're doing.

02:11:53.000 We do have AmericanBorderPatrol.com.

02:11:56.000 And we're just working in one of the rooms here at the headquarters on a new streaming video.

02:12:01.000 We're going to have live streaming video and audio in about a week from all of our operations in the field.

02:12:09.000 But believe me, I can say this, and I'm on the air, and somebody can call in and contradict me, but every rancher Every major rancher, one guy with 22,000 acres, between Sierra Vista and the New Mexico line, is supporting us 100%.

02:12:27.000 And they're coming in like mad now.

02:12:29.000 The homeowners up in the canyons here, they're finding out about us.

02:12:32.000 The small ranchers along the border, because they know that the Border Patrol does nothing about their problems.

02:12:40.000 Absolutely.

02:12:41.000 Imagine living out in the country and knowing that tens of thousands of people a week are in your area.

02:12:47.000 And to know that there's criminal coyotes that feed on the immigrants, on the illegals.

02:12:52.000 Very scary.

02:12:53.000 Glenn, stay there.

02:12:54.000 We're going to come back and talk to Jason and Brad.

02:12:54.000 One more segment with you.

02:12:58.000 That'll be it for calls for our guests in the next segment.

02:13:02.000 Now I'm going to come back and hit a bunch of news we haven't gotten to yet.

02:13:05.000 They won't put censors on the border or control the illegals, but the feds within five years are going to remote control your cars.

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02:17:10.000 All right.

02:17:40.000 We got Glenn Spencer on line with us.

02:17:42.000 AmericanPatrol.com.

02:17:43.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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02:17:47.000 Jason in Texas, you're on the air with Glenn Spencer, go ahead.

02:17:50.000 Hey, what's going on, Alex?

02:17:52.000 I just had a question for Mr. Spencer.

02:17:54.000 I don't understand how he can blame the councils, like the, what do they say, the La Rasta councils and all that, for trying to get rid of white America, when his own white America are the ones who aren't doing anything about the border problem. 0.52

02:18:11.000 If they were really serious, I think that they would put a wall, like in China, from Texas, Brownsville, to San Diego.

02:18:20.000 The point I'm trying to make here is that the Ford Foundation tries to make it a racial issue, powers it through racism on that side.

02:18:31.000 Most Hispanics are against what's happening.

02:18:33.000 The media tries to make it a racial issue.

02:18:35.000 It's a sovereignty, an economic, a security issue, it's common sense. There is six plus billion people

02:18:42.000 outside this country and they all want to come here and they want to come here 0.98

02:18:46.000 and lower the wages and drive down the standard of living and they have no

02:18:49.000 history of liberty or freedom. But we do blame the politicians, we

02:18:54.000 do blame Americans period, who were citizens who were ignorant to 0.97

02:18:58.000 this. But the responsibility lies

02:19:00.000 with the traitorous federal government. Glenn, any comments?

02:19:04.000 In his opening his book Alien Nation, Peter Brimelow, senior editor of Forbes

02:19:10.000 magazine, he said that there is a sense in which America's immigration policy is

02:19:16.000 Hitler's posthumous revenge on the United States.

02:19:19.000 And by that he meant, essentially because of a backlash against Hitler and his racist Nazis, who were overthrown and killed, by the way, mostly by white Anglo-Saxon Protestant males from America, The white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male has been demonized and it has worked. 0.62

02:19:41.000 Mexico has used it against us. 0.99

02:19:43.000 You are a bunch of racists. 1.00

02:19:45.000 You are a bunch of Nazis if you try to protect your border. 0.99

02:19:49.000 The reason they don't do anything is that they have essentially been emasculated. 0.91

02:19:54.000 Is it okay if I speak?

02:19:55.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:19:56.000 That was just my answer.

02:19:57.000 I think it was complete.

02:19:59.000 Whose fault is it?

02:20:00.000 I mean, don't blame the Mexican people.

02:20:02.000 Go to the source. 0.95

02:20:03.000 I blame the Mexican people for violating our laws. 1.00

02:20:06.000 They know better. 0.94

02:20:08.000 It's just not Mexicans who are violating laws.

02:20:10.000 Of course it isn't just Mexicans. 0.95

02:20:13.000 I'm sure that there is a It's Sri Lankan in there, but it's 95% that are crossing these borders are Mexican. 0.89

02:20:18.000 Mr. Spencer, I understand, and I am Hispanic, and I do understand why you're mad, and I understand, I really do, but don't make it sound like the Mexicans have just been coming here because my family was born and raised here, my grandmother was born and raised here.

02:20:34.000 Isn't it interesting that both parties, neither party, wants to bring up the immigration issue because they're afraid of alienating Hispanics.

02:20:44.000 They don't want to close the border.

02:20:46.000 Let me finish.

02:20:47.000 They don't want to close the border because that would alienate Hispanics. 0.88

02:20:51.000 And what these politicians have concluded is that all Hispanics want the borders open.

02:20:57.000 No, sir.

02:20:58.000 I'm one saying I don't.

02:20:59.000 Well, I'm just telling you that that upset is apparently what they have concluded.

02:21:03.000 I'm going to tell you the difference in all of America that are listening between a Hispanic and a Mexican. 0.97

02:21:08.000 A Mexican is born in Mexico.

02:21:10.000 Okay, I am of Mexican and Spaniard descent, but I'm not a Mexican.

02:21:14.000 I'm Hispanic.

02:21:15.000 I've been here over a hundred years.

02:21:16.000 My family has been here, and Alex knows about Texas.

02:21:20.000 We're from South Texas, okay?

02:21:21.000 Well, exactly.

02:21:22.000 We're ranchers and farmers and everything.

02:21:25.000 Some of them died in Germany.

02:21:27.000 I am partly of German descent, but I wasn't a German, and my family went over and fought Germans, right? 0.94

02:21:33.000 Yes, my grandfather was in World War II.

02:21:35.000 My father was in Vietnam.

02:21:36.000 There you go.

02:21:37.000 Don't make it sound like the Mexicans have just been coming to invasion.

02:21:40.000 Hold on.

02:21:41.000 Let me just interject here.

02:21:41.000 Hold on.

02:21:43.000 This has gone wild.

02:21:45.000 I don't want to censor Jason, I don't want to censor Glenn, so let's, if Glenn can, I know he's very busy, he's a few minutes into the next segment, so you guys can calmly debate this, because I get in this race trying to get all the callers in and I want to try to do this, but let me just interject something here.

02:22:03.000 In a Gallup poll, 89% of Americans, Hispanic, white, black, it didn't matter, want the border controlled, illegals deported.

02:22:11.000 The media tries to make it a racial issue.

02:22:14.000 Glenn's not doing that.

02:22:16.000 Glenn is pointing out, though, that the Mexican government says this is Mexico.

02:22:20.000 That's correct.

02:22:21.000 Says it should be Mexico. 0.99

02:22:23.000 And we're pointing out that the elite in New York want to break this country down.

02:22:28.000 The UN calls for playing group off against group.

02:22:31.000 If it's Africa, it's black tribe against black tribe. 1.00

02:22:34.000 If it's Ireland, it's Protestant against Catholic. 0.88

02:22:37.000 It's North against South. 0.80

02:22:39.000 Same thing over and over again.

02:22:42.000 So let's discuss it.

02:22:43.000 Stay there, Jason.

02:22:44.000 Stay there, Glenn.

02:22:45.000 Let's discuss it.

02:22:45.000 I have this quick three-minute break, and then we'll let Glenn get out of there, because I know he's busy, and I appreciate him joining us.

02:22:51.000 But don't hang up, Jason.

02:22:52.000 We'll let you make your points.

02:22:53.000 But I think you're misunderstanding what we're saying.

02:22:55.000 Look, there's six and a half billion people.

02:22:58.000 Can they all come here, or can we have a border? 0.99

02:23:01.000 Most of them are Mexican.

02:23:05.000 We're on the march.

02:23:06.000 The empire's on the run.

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02:24:05.000 Now, the media owned by the Globalist tries to confuse the issue.

02:24:11.000 Now, I am more concerned about Russians here illegally and Chinese here illegally because the statistics show they are much higher chances that their Russian mob or Chinese triad or People Liberation Army, they've been caught doing this, they feed on their own communities. 0.99

02:24:31.000 Hispanics are probably... I've got a background.

02:24:35.000 Let's put everybody on hold for a second.

02:24:37.000 I've got some background audio coming in.

02:24:41.000 Hispanics on average are, for immigrants, are in the middle for the type of crime they bring with them. 1.00

02:24:48.000 So it's not a racial issue.

02:24:48.000 Okay?

02:24:50.000 Frankly, white Russians are about as bad as it gets statistically, but you don't have 25 million illegal Russians here! 0.99

02:24:58.000 And believe me, if we had 25 million illegal Russians instead of 500,000 of them, or a million of them, whatever it is, if we had that, I'd be screaming bloody murder more than I am now. 0.99

02:25:09.000 The problem is, is the liberals have added this racial system to it, Which is racist.

02:25:14.000 La Raza means the race. 0.99

02:25:16.000 Metcha.

02:25:17.000 I've been at their rallies. 1.00

02:25:18.000 I've seen them with pictures of white people with their heads cut off saying we're gonna kill all whites. 1.00

02:25:22.000 Glenn has video of that. 0.99

02:25:24.000 And Glenn, you were commenting that you're German, but your father went and fought the Germans in Germany.

02:25:31.000 And I think what Jason's saying is, he's a Hispanic, but he's as American as you or I, and he understands the problem.

02:25:37.000 He just hears the terms we're using and gets confused.

02:25:41.000 We're talking about helping everybody.

02:25:42.000 Let's say you're a Hispanic truck driver.

02:25:45.000 You know, more patriotic than Alex Jones or Glenn Spencer.

02:25:47.000 You're a great American.

02:25:48.000 You get 30 cents a mile to drive your truck.

02:25:51.000 An illegal gets 3 cents a mile.

02:25:53.000 Now, as a Hispanic American, you should be for stopping the illegal, but now legal, Mexican trucks. 1.00

02:25:59.000 Glenn, is that the point you were trying to make?

02:26:03.000 Let's bring Glenn Spencer back up.

02:26:04.000 Americans fought, won medals of honor, are loyal, great people of Hispanic descent who are hurt more by illegal immigration than anything else, than anyone else.

02:26:13.000 And there's no question about that.

02:26:17.000 But I will tell you that the government of Mexico is very hostile toward us and is pushing its people into the United States. 0.96

02:26:23.000 It's Nazi. 0.71

02:26:24.000 And you've got some of those clips.

02:26:24.000 It's Nazi.

02:26:27.000 Oh yeah.

02:26:28.000 Here, for example, and i'm having a little bit of trouble but here is here is

02:26:34.000 uh uh perriesto's the deal

02:26:37.000 that the mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders

02:26:45.000 so that mexican migrants are an important a very important part of it

02:26:52.000 what he said was uh i have proudly affirmed that the mexican nation extends beyond the territory

02:26:59.000 enclosed by its borders and that mexican migrants are important a very important

02:27:04.000 part of it He was speaking to the National Council of La Raza, of 5,000, financed by the Ford Foundation.

02:27:10.000 Got a huge standing ovation.

02:27:12.000 If you listen to the entire speech, what it was in essence, We're going to take over all the political institutions of California in five years.

02:27:20.000 And then if you listen to Mario Obrado, I'll just play you a little of this.

02:27:24.000 This is after he won the Clinton 1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom.

02:27:28.000 We're going to take over all the political institutions of California.

02:27:31.000 In five years, the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state.

02:27:37.000 You also made the statement that California is going to become a Hispanic state, and if

02:27:43.000 anyone doesn't like it, they should leave.

02:27:45.000 Did you say that?

02:27:46.000 I did.

02:27:47.000 They ought to go back to Europe. 0.99

02:27:48.000 I didn't know that we were a racial state.

02:27:56.000 Well, we certainly are now, and Mario Obrado, if you knew him, uses Hispanic and Mexican interchangeably.

02:28:03.000 So what he was essentially saying is that California is going to be a Mexican state, anyone who doesn't like it should leave, they should go back to Europe.

02:28:11.000 He was the cuddle founder of MALDEF.

02:28:14.000 He was the co-founder of the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the winner of the 1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom.

02:28:21.000 I'm going to tell you something.

02:28:23.000 If any leading person, other than a person of color or other ethnicity, had said anything close to that, they would be driven out of society! 1.00

02:28:32.000 Let me stop you for a second, Glenn.

02:28:34.000 Jason, I was asking you to hold.

02:28:36.000 I want to keep a line open for Jason.

02:28:39.000 Jason, I want you to call back in right now.

02:28:40.000 I'm going to give you the floor for a couple minutes.

02:28:45.000 800-259-9231.

02:28:46.000 Mark, keep a line open.

02:28:47.000 Just hang up on one person.

02:28:49.000 Tell them, sorry, we've got to get to Jason.

02:28:51.000 Because I want Jason to come back on.

02:28:53.000 Jason just hung up.

02:28:54.000 800-259-9231, Jason.

02:28:55.000 He did call back in.

02:28:56.000 9 9 2 3 1 Jason he did call back in now Jason bring you back up to the airwaves

02:29:04.000 Go ahead, you got the floor.

02:29:05.000 Okay, I was just saying, uh, why, why not go to the source of the problem?

02:29:10.000 It's, why majority congressmen and Republicans who are on, Democrats, I don't know, not doing anything about If they were serious, like I said, why not put a wall?

02:29:21.000 You're absolutely right, Jason, you are on target.

02:29:24.000 That's what Glenn was saying last hour.

02:29:26.000 So what I'm saying is, his own group, white people are hurting their own white people. 1.00

02:29:31.000 That's it, they're evil. 0.99

02:29:33.000 The people running the Ford Foundation and Bush and the rest of them want low wages, 0.98

02:29:38.000 want a giant third world mass, want us all dumbed down with no sovereignty. 0.88

02:29:43.000 That's the UN goal.

02:29:44.000 Sacrificing America on the altar of globalism.

02:29:48.000 Well, what it is, Alex, is that the United States government does not admit how much they really rely and depend on the Mexican workers.

02:29:55.000 That's nonsense.

02:29:56.000 Oh, come on. 0.98

02:29:57.000 It is complete and total nonsense.

02:30:00.000 I've studied labor economics.

02:30:02.000 A degree in mathematical statistics.

02:30:04.000 I've studied this issue.

02:30:06.000 It is nonsense.

02:30:07.000 If no one else will work for cheaper... Yeah, right.

02:30:10.000 Well, of course they won't.

02:30:11.000 It's just nonsense.

02:30:12.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:30:12.000 Let me stop you, Glenn. 0.95

02:30:14.000 Everybody stop.

02:30:15.000 Let me just break this down for you, Jason.

02:30:17.000 Because of the third world populations driving the wages down to two dollars an hour, of course no one will work on that because a American family, whether they're Hispanic, black, white, or polka dotted, pays taxes, pays all the fees, the insurance, and can't survive on that. 1.00

02:30:34.000 Only ten Africans or ten Mexicans in a two-room shack can afford to live in that system. 0.84

02:30:41.000 That's the point we're making.

02:30:45.000 Alex, may I say something?

02:30:47.000 Go ahead.

02:30:48.000 I had a letter published in the Arizona Star News to the following effect.

02:30:53.000 A guy had written a letter, or rather a column, that if we'd gotten rid of all the illegal aliens, lettuce would cost $5 a head. 0.64

02:31:00.000 I did the work.

02:31:01.000 I did the math.

02:31:03.000 I did the analysis.

02:31:04.000 At that time, and today too, for lettuce to cost $5 a head, we would have to pay the field workers $235 an hour.

02:31:15.000 Okay?

02:31:16.000 That's how crazy that stuff is.

02:31:18.000 If you understood anything about labor economics, No, you wouldn't even see the change in price of produce if you had to pay these people twice what they were earning.

02:31:28.000 The problem is not that.

02:31:30.000 It's that these farmers and anybody else who works in a commodity or a competitive environment has to hire the illegals because they work on such small margins. 0.96

02:31:39.000 And if his competitor doesn't, he has to do it.

02:31:41.000 So this idea that we rely on to help our economy is balderdash.

02:31:46.000 And whose fault is that?

02:31:47.000 Whose fault is that?

02:31:49.000 It's the fault of our government.

02:31:51.000 Okay, so why not go to the source?

02:31:53.000 Jason, Jason and Glenn, we're not blaming black people, white people, Hispanics.

02:31:58.000 We always go back to Hispanics because that's the 400 million people south of the border coming this way and I've been... Let me stop you, Jason. 0.83

02:32:08.000 Have you been to Mexico City?

02:32:10.000 No, sir.

02:32:11.000 I have been outside of it. 0.86

02:32:12.000 I was too cowardly to go in.

02:32:13.000 15 million people live in cardboard boxes, one hour of water a day.

02:32:19.000 It is horrible.

02:32:21.000 The point is, if they come here, they will work for nothing.

02:32:25.000 That will force everybody to hire at that low level.

02:32:27.000 It will destroy the middle class, regardless of what color you are. 0.97

02:32:30.000 They'll work for nothing.

02:32:33.000 They'll be more than what they're making there.

02:32:35.000 And I'm saying, it's the government's fault.

02:32:38.000 That's the way they take care of their people, okay?

02:32:40.000 I agree with you.

02:32:41.000 I don't take any of this to heart, because it's no different.

02:32:44.000 If Russia was our border, or Germany, everyone would be wanting to get rid of the Germans and Russians. 1.00

02:32:49.000 That's correct.

02:32:50.000 Okay, but I mean... The point is this.

02:32:52.000 Mexico is a corrupt nation. 0.98

02:32:54.000 We shouldn't have gone over and beat up Iraq. 1.00

02:32:57.000 We should have gone down there and beat up that corrupt government of Mexico. 0.96

02:33:01.000 Please turn the radio off, Jason. 0.95

02:33:04.000 Jason, turn your radio off, please.

02:33:06.000 It was out of control.

02:33:07.000 Okay, final comments from Glenn Spencer.

02:33:09.000 Final comments on this issue from Jason.

02:33:12.000 Jason, you've got 60 seconds.

02:33:14.000 Okay, I'd just say go ahead and target the people who are not doing anything to stop the border crossing.

02:33:19.000 It's not only Mexicans, it's Russians, Afghanistan people, all kinds of people. 0.97

02:33:24.000 Oh, it's thousands a month in Cochise County of illegal Muslims. 1.00

02:33:28.000 Glenn, tell them all about that.

02:33:30.000 Well, we've got a lot of Muslims coming across, carrying Mexican ID cards, by the way.

02:33:35.000 And lots of people from Brazil.

02:33:37.000 They're coming up through Panama.

02:33:39.000 Chinese are coming up through Panama.

02:33:42.000 There is no question that unless we get control of this border, we will become a third world country. 0.93

02:33:47.000 But we also need to help Mexico.

02:33:49.000 Mr. Spencer, I don't want you to think, though, that the Mexicans have just been coming here.

02:33:55.000 You know, Hispanic people have been here, and in California, forever.

02:34:00.000 They were never there.

02:34:01.000 My family, sir.

02:34:02.000 This is what I happen to know what you're talking about.

02:34:05.000 My family has been here.

02:34:06.000 There were also hunter-gatherer Indians in Southern California.

02:34:09.000 Mostly the Gabriella Indians.

02:34:11.000 The Aztecs and Mayans. 0.90

02:34:13.000 The Aztecs were agricultural people.

02:34:15.000 They had nothing to do with the people in California.

02:34:17.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:34:20.000 He's talking about Southern California, and Jason's talking about Tejanos.

02:34:25.000 Now, let me just say something here.

02:34:27.000 Let me just say something here.

02:34:28.000 Glenn's talking about who has the claim to the land.

02:34:30.000 If anybody is, it's Shoshone, it's Comanche, it's Apache, it's all these groups. 1.00

02:34:37.000 And for Metcha to claim the Aztecs... I mean, I love something about land, because the King of Spain, he granted my grandfather what is the Kennedy Ranch.

02:34:46.000 And my grandfather, he lent it out.

02:34:48.000 Eventually, as time went on, he let the people use the land.

02:34:52.000 And they kept on coming.

02:34:53.000 They took all his land.

02:34:54.000 And, sir, that's true.

02:34:55.000 And, you know, that's just the way it was.

02:34:57.000 In Texas, in Texas, and this has been pointed out by Pat Buchanan, too, that the two cultures get along a lot better.

02:35:06.000 That's what Tohono O'odham says.

02:35:11.000 I mean, also, I have blond-haired, blue-eyed cousins that are Hispanic.

02:35:15.000 You know, we're just not brown, dark people who just come here.

02:35:19.000 Look at Spanish language television.

02:35:21.000 Look at Spanish language television.

02:35:23.000 I don't watch it, man.

02:35:25.000 I was never... I always thought English was my first language.

02:35:28.000 Well, listen, I appreciate your call, Jason.

02:35:29.000 Thank you.

02:35:31.000 Look, I've just got to say this here and now.

02:35:34.000 You see what the media's done here.

02:35:35.000 You see what's happened.

02:35:37.000 We're not saying if you're Hispanic you should go back to Mexico because we know you could be from anywhere.

02:35:43.000 You've probably been here longer than Glenn Spencer and Alex Jones' family have been, but my family got their land in a Spanish land grant in 1830 just like Jason's.

02:35:52.000 The point I'm trying to make here is that the Spanish told the Mexicans and the whites, "Please come in to Texas

02:36:05.000 and kick the Indians out for us." 0.99

02:36:07.000 So any Mexican claim that the Southwest belongs to Mexico is a joke. Mexico asked whites to come in 1.00

02:36:14.000 to kick the Indians out because they couldn't successfully do it. 1.00

02:36:17.000 And part of that is in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

02:36:20.000 Yeah, they say it.

02:36:21.000 I mean, they went to the folks in Kentucky and in Tennessee and said, we know you've got a lot of guns and you're real mean.

02:36:27.000 And a lot of Texas, remember a big part of Texas was acquired from France in the Louisiana Purchase and then swapped over in Spain for Florida.

02:36:35.000 There was a lot of land swapping going on.

02:36:37.000 If anybody's got claims to land, I have a lot of Indian friends, the Indians do.

02:36:42.000 And if the Indians want some more land, I think it's fine. 0.56

02:36:44.000 But this discussion that it belongs to Mexico is a fraud, correct Bill?

02:36:51.000 I mean, again, my family didn't get their land from Mexico.

02:36:53.000 They got it from Spain.

02:36:55.000 Okay?

02:36:55.000 It was empires fighting with each other.

02:36:59.000 But, absolutely.

02:36:59.000 You've got it.

02:37:00.000 I mean, and people who are Hispanic and are American citizens have just as much a right as I do to be here.

02:37:06.000 Absolutely.

02:37:06.000 Whether you're black or white, it doesn't matter.

02:37:09.000 I've been on the radio a lot and I've had these guys call in, but at the last minute they'll just slide this little thing as, well, it's really our land anyway.

02:37:16.000 And that gets my back up.

02:37:18.000 Because that just isn't true.

02:37:21.000 And so I react pretty strongly when I hear that.

02:37:24.000 Oh, that was really nice and reasonable, but oh, remember, this is really our land.

02:37:27.000 Well, it isn't.

02:37:28.000 Especially Southern California.

02:37:30.000 Especially this part of Arizona.

02:37:31.000 This was purchased in the Gadsden Purchase.

02:37:34.000 So where I am, it wasn't even part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

02:37:37.000 Well, wait, Glenn.

02:37:38.000 Glenn, there weren't giant crystal pyramids with flying saucers right by the Aztecs?

02:37:43.000 Right.

02:37:44.000 Well, that's what the Mecha says that.

02:37:48.000 The one land that they claim more than anything else is California.

02:37:51.000 That's where they're really invading.

02:37:53.000 But they say that the Mexicans had nothing to do with the Indians of California.

02:37:57.000 It was a severe desert.

02:37:58.000 On Mecha's own website they claim that there were large crystal pyramids with flying saucers.

02:38:03.000 Right.

02:38:04.000 So why don't we just believe that?

02:38:06.000 Right.

02:38:08.000 It's all a sham, and the American people have bought it hook, line, and sinker.

02:38:12.000 And they better wake up.

02:38:13.000 But I have faith in the masses, and wisdom of the masses.

02:38:16.000 I hope they, I believe they'll eventually catch up.

02:38:19.000 It takes time.

02:38:19.000 Alright, two quick calls real quick.

02:38:21.000 Brad in Illinois, then Warren in Colorado, and that's it.

02:38:24.000 Appreciate all of Glenn's time.

02:38:25.000 Go ahead, Brad.

02:38:27.000 Yeah, unfortunately, the land belongs to the person, or the people who have title to it.

02:38:34.000 Unfortunately, nobody has any title to any land anymore.

02:38:37.000 uh...

02:38:39.000 what i want to also say that that there's no need

02:38:42.000 in my opinion of a wall going across uh... mexico well people back to making illegal

02:38:49.000 immigrant or the immigrants 0.99

02:38:52.000 for being here in this country or that they come across

02:38:56.000 And before you can immigrate to this country, it should be the way it was before 1950. 0.99

02:38:59.000 or the business or the people they're working for that pays the fine and pays the board

02:39:04.000 them back and pays for everything.

02:39:06.000 Felony charges for anybody hiring illegals. 0.99

02:39:09.000 Absolutely.

02:39:10.000 And before you can immigrate to this country, it should be the way it was before 1950. 0.99

02:39:17.000 They had to have a sponsor.

02:39:18.000 The sponsor would pay to have that relative or friend come to this country.

02:39:22.000 The sponsor would vouch for them.

02:39:24.000 And if they got in trouble, the immigrant would either go to jail, get deported, and guess what? 1.00

02:39:30.000 The person that vouched for them would also get the same thing.

02:39:33.000 We wrote the law in 1996 to do just that, and it's not enforced.

02:39:37.000 And the reason it's not enforced is that you have people like Dr. Robert Buck, Running policy and planning for the INS, all internal enforcement policy.

02:39:48.000 What were his qualifications to get that job?

02:39:50.000 He worked for the Ford Foundation for seven years!

02:39:54.000 They also, in a group sworn to destroy America, they also, when they would come here, whether you were German or Mexican or Ethiopian, you had to learn the Bill of Rights and Constitution so you knew your rights. 0.93

02:40:06.000 That doesn't happen anymore! 0.97

02:40:08.000 And also we should have, this country is an English speaking country, I don't care what color you are or where you come from, It's common sense that you have to have a common language amongst the people living in a country in order to develop and have commerce.

02:40:25.000 Plus English is the world language now, and you are hurting somebody by encouraging them not to learn that dominant language.

02:40:33.000 They want to keep them in the barrios under their local barrio chief's control, under the government's control.

02:40:39.000 It's about importing slaves and keeping them enslaved and enslaving everybody else. 0.97

02:40:44.000 Glenn, do you agree?

02:40:45.000 Totally, and it is greed, it is all of the elements of human behavior all wrapped up into one.

02:40:53.000 It's conquest, it's irredentism, it's la reconquista, it's profit, it's fear.

02:40:59.000 It's all of these things wrapped up into what can be called a disaster for us.

02:41:03.000 Let me give you an example.

02:41:04.000 A former city council candidate, thanks for the call, Brad.

02:41:10.000 Got caught shipping in illegals.

02:41:11.000 Guess how he got caught? 0.99

02:41:12.000 He was beating one of their brains out with a baseball bat. 0.83

02:41:15.000 He's one of the Brown Beret guys. 1.00

02:41:17.000 So they're the ones feeding on their own people, and it's sick and it's disgusting, but it's about illegals, period. 1.00

02:41:22.000 AmericanPatrol.com. 0.92

02:41:24.000 Glenn Spencer, thanks for all the time, and Godspeed to you, my friend.

02:41:26.000 Thank you, bye.

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02:44:45.000 Folks, the U.N.

02:44:47.000 has said they want to dumb your kids down.

02:44:51.000 The U.N.

02:44:52.000 has said they want to get rid of your borders.

02:44:54.000 And our government's just carrying that policy out.

02:44:58.000 And people are getting wise to this, regardless of what color they are, that's destroying our country. 1.00

02:45:02.000 Real quick, Warren in Colorado, you're the last caller of the day, then I've got to hit some news.

02:45:06.000 Go ahead, Warren, you're on the air.

02:45:07.000 Okay, real quick.

02:45:08.000 It's been kind of hard to keep up today.

02:45:11.000 But, you know, this basically is America.

02:45:15.000 And we have the Constitution.

02:45:17.000 And it's real basic.

02:45:19.000 And if you're going to, you know, if people are going to be here, no matter if they're Mexican or whatever, you know, we've got to stick to that. 1.00

02:45:27.000 So I had quite a few other good points I thought I'd make.

02:45:31.000 Well, yeah, I want to make that point.

02:45:32.000 They're not teaching immigrants anymore to mellorize their Constitution. 1.00

02:45:36.000 They're robbing them of that.

02:45:38.000 That's the whole point of this.

02:45:39.000 Go ahead.

02:45:40.000 Oh, yeah.

02:45:41.000 You know, I've had to teach my own children what the Constitution means and what's going on as far as that is concerned about freedom and so on.

02:45:53.000 And that's about it.

02:45:54.000 I don't want to take up any more of the time.

02:45:56.000 Well, thank you, Warren.

02:45:57.000 I mean, look, an illegal doesn't have to have an ID card, but you as a citizen do.

02:46:02.000 Whether you're black or white or Hispanic or green, you go and fight in these wars and pay all these taxes and do all this, and the illegals don't have to. 0.76

02:46:11.000 And when the illegals do pay taxes, they don't even get any of the money.

02:46:14.000 Of course, who wants it from this government?

02:46:15.000 It's all just a big scam.

02:46:16.000 It's bad for the illegals, it's bad for the citizens, it's good for the bankers. 0.99

02:46:22.000 We fight corruption here, folks.

02:46:24.000 Look at Australia.

02:46:25.000 They've opened the borders, bringing in the illegals, breaking them legal, take the guns, and now unlimited power of arrest to ASIO. 0.61

02:46:32.000 Australia's Domestic Intelligence Agency, ASIO, will have aggressive new powers from today to detain, for an unlimited period, citizens suspected of having information about terrorist offenses.

02:46:43.000 And it lists that terrorist offenses are any violation of law.

02:46:46.000 Same thing as the Patriot Act.

02:46:47.000 And it says they will secretly arrest you and you'll never be seen again.

02:46:51.000 It says that in the article.

02:46:52.000 Members of the press can be secretly arrested.

02:46:54.000 Did you know that?

02:46:55.000 For reporting things they weren't supposed to.

02:46:57.000 Oh, that sounds like freedom.

02:47:01.000 It just gets worse and worse.

02:47:02.000 And now Paul Wolfowitz, the demon over the Defense Department, is going to run the military tribunals.

02:47:07.000 Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Thursday Uh, delegated to his top deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, the final word on which terrorism suspects are to be tried by a military tribunal.

02:47:17.000 Wolfowitz will also appoint the three-judge panel.

02:47:20.000 So, talk about a kangaroo court, that's the definition.

02:47:25.000 Due to admissions of torture and people to death, the U.S.

02:47:27.000 government's saying, okay, we'll stop torturing.

02:47:29.000 They've gotten so much heat over it.

02:47:30.000 That's the Washington Post.

02:47:33.000 Look at this article out of the Associated Press.

02:47:35.000 You've got to go read it on InfoWars.com.

02:47:37.000 They just calmly announced in the article that the government's going to take physical control of your car.

02:47:42.000 I told you!

02:47:43.000 Not just satellite tracking and taxation.

02:47:46.000 Smart cars, smart roads can help drivers.

02:47:49.000 And it says if you don't follow the warnings on the bleeping system that tracks you, the little flashing lights, they're going to physically take control of your car.

02:47:58.000 This is by Leslie Miller, Associated Press writer.

02:48:00.000 Smart cars, smart roads can help drivers.

02:48:03.000 Enforce within five years AP.

02:48:06.000 I mean, folks, massive big brother, total enslavement of citizens, illegals going around with no IDs, double the welfare citizens get, laughing at us regardless of where they're from. 1.00

02:48:17.000 This isn't right, but the globalists have done this before.

02:48:20.000 They want to destroy America.

02:48:22.000 They're going to bring in the illegals to do it. 1.00

02:48:25.000 And then the illegals are saying, oh, well this is Mexico or this is Russia.

02:48:28.000 Great, well be like Mexico or Russia. 0.80

02:48:32.000 It's incredible.

02:48:32.000 You know, to get away from this tyranny, I might go to Latin America.

02:48:38.000 You know, it isn't that I want to be around people that are one color or another. 1.00

02:48:43.000 It's that I don't want to be in a country destroyed.

02:48:45.000 That's it.

02:48:47.000 I'm out of time.

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Alex Jones Show - July 04, 2003

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