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00:00:15.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:23.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:32.000 There can no longer be any doubt.

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00:00:46.000 The government of this country wants a dumbed down, mindless population of idiots. 1.00

00:00:53.000 We have the Department of Education documents. 1.00

00:00:56.000 We have Senate hearings over a hundred years ago where they talked about education of the public causing a crisis for the government and how they needed to dumb the people down.

00:01:08.000 We posted some of those documents on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com today.

00:01:15.000 We know that they want to control our society and turn us into non-thinkers.

00:01:22.000 And there was a great example of this yesterday in the New York Post, and it's posted on InfoWars.com right now.

00:01:30.000 Caller called in about it, and we do have the article.

00:01:33.000 And in 20 minutes, the father's coming on.

00:01:35.000 His daughter has a 3.8.

00:01:38.000 She's 15.

00:01:39.000 She's graduating from college.

00:01:41.000 And the judge says she can't have her degree. 0.99

00:01:45.000 And the CPS is coming after him with a criminal investigation discussing taking the child, the young lady, the young adult, away from her family.

00:01:56.000 They say it's abusive not to send your child to public schools so your child can learn how to be a crack dealer, a New World Order minion.

00:02:04.000 Now we have the UNESCO documents, we have the Department of Education documents, we have the Senate documents, over a hundred years old, with a plan to dumb us down into public schools.

00:02:15.000 And then they go after people whose children have 3.8 grade averages in top colleges at 15 years of age, and the government's coming with criminal charges against them.

00:02:27.000 Pretty obvious what they're all about, isn't it?

00:02:29.000 Yes, it's we have their own admissions.

00:02:33.000 And that's what stuns this broadcast, this host, is that we have the globalists in their crime, in triplicate, and The neocons are running offense and defense for the liberals, the socialists, the control freaks.

00:02:46.000 And shame on you big government people.

00:02:49.000 Shame on you government bureaucrats. 1.00

00:02:51.000 I mean, how do you go after a 15-year-old with a 3.8 grade average?

00:02:56.000 That's in the top 97 percentile.

00:03:00.000 How do you go after a 15-year-old who's about to graduate from college, and how does the judge say she can't have her college diploma?

00:03:07.000 From a top accredited college.

00:03:10.000 So, that's coming up in about 15 minutes.

00:03:12.000 They'll be joining us.

00:03:13.000 Then we have Dr. David Bannon coming on the show, who worked for Interpol, going around, I guess, assassinating people, basically.

00:03:23.000 That's coming up in the second hour.

00:03:25.000 And we've got World War III brewing with North Korea, Iran, Syria. 0.90

00:03:31.000 More U.S.

00:03:32.000 troops getting killed, gunfire exchanged over the DMZ with North Korea and South Korea yesterday,

00:03:39.000 massive escalations, battle plans being leaked in the last week to go ahead and attack North

00:03:44.000 Korea with nuclear weapons. Former Defense Secretary says that nukes will go off in the

00:03:52.000 cities.

00:03:52.000 It's going to happen.

00:03:53.000 He, of course, he's CFR.

00:03:56.000 And, hey, they'll love it.

00:03:57.000 A nuke goes off in a city, they'll have even more of an excuse to tell you the government's your boss.

00:04:02.000 They're going to take all your rights for your safety. 0.98

00:04:04.000 And, of course, it won't be North Korea detonating that nuke, folks.

00:04:08.000 It'll be the shadow government and out of that all of their training, all of their takeover systems will be activated and things are going to go downhill very, very quickly.

00:04:18.000 Or we could speak out and get involved and blow the whistle inside and outside of government and stand up against the military-industrial complex and save America!

00:04:27.000 But the yuppies and the bureaucrats and all of you are in for a rude awakening.

00:04:31.000 You can't go on being part of an evil system forever and not have it turn on you.

00:04:36.000 And you're all about to find out.

00:04:38.000 You've all been finding out individually over time, but you're going to find out on a mass scale what your masters think of you will do to you.

00:04:47.000 So we're entering the ninth circle of hell, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:50.000 Just all the evidence is there.

00:04:52.000 We'll break it down today.

00:04:53.000 Where evil is good and good is evil.

00:04:56.000 Where black is white, where black is white, where white is black. 0.79

00:04:59.000 Where up is down, where down is up.

00:05:01.000 Where left is right, where right is left.

00:05:03.000 Where decency is evil and evil is good.

00:05:05.000 Oh, I guess I'm evil then.

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00:08:19.000 You want answers?

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00:08:26.000 and now live from austin texas all right ladies and gentlemen coming up in about uh...

00:08:50.000 twelve uh... minutes we're gonna be joined by angela lips man's father

00:08:58.000 headline Port K.O.'

00:09:00.000 's college whiz kid, a 15-year-old Manhattan girl whose parents sent her to college instead of high school, has been told by a judge that she can't get her associate's degree even though she's got enough credits as city officials launch an educational neglect probe against her dad.

00:09:20.000 She got into college at 11.

00:09:22.000 She has a 3.8 and was about to get her bachelor's degree.

00:09:28.000 And to move on with her Master's that she was already working on, trying to complete that by 16.

00:09:34.000 And they have started, it says here in the New York Post, criminal investigations and are going to charge them.

00:09:44.000 So that's the new America. 0.86

00:09:49.000 That's the new America, and they do not want you to be intelligent, to be informed, to be able to think for yourself.

00:09:56.000 I have the official Senate documents, official Department of Education, official UN, where they say word for word, dumbing you down, creating an individual that cannot think, destroying the family, is the name of the game.

00:10:14.000 Is there any doubt of their criminality?

00:10:16.000 So now, Your daughter is in college at 15, graduating from college.

00:10:23.000 Criminal charges coming down.

00:10:26.000 And the judge says you don't get to have your degree.

00:10:29.000 Your work is all disallowed.

00:10:32.000 So that's the new America, folks. 0.77

00:10:33.000 You excel, you are punished. 1.00

00:10:36.000 You're a mindless idiot, you're rewarded. 1.00

00:10:39.000 We've talked about how Child Kidnapping Services is targeting homeschoolers nationwide. 1.00

00:10:46.000 Nationwide viciously attacking them.

00:10:49.000 There's moves to bar them from spelling bees and from geography bees because they keep winning everything.

00:10:57.000 I haven't seen a report where it wasn't a homeschooler or someone from private school.

00:11:01.000 So they're attacking that viciously.

00:11:04.000 They can't stand it that it's being exposed and that now three million children have exited the public schools to homeschool and tens of millions are also going to private schools.

00:11:15.000 They are convulsing in anger and attempting with vouchers, a crafty neocon scam, to federalize the private schools. 0.74

00:11:25.000 You don't want vouchers You just want the capacity to simply not pay property taxes if you don't have your children in a government death camp.

00:11:35.000 I mean, a government training camp.

00:11:37.000 A government dumb-down camp.

00:11:38.000 A government thumb scan, face scan, cavity search camp.

00:11:43.000 A government camp where they have video cameras in the school showers.

00:11:51.000 A government re-education dumb-down center.

00:11:54.000 So that's a big deal that's coming up. 0.92

00:11:56.000 The news is incredible but I do have a death threat email.

00:11:59.000 I get these about every week and basically it says that I'm with Al Qaeda because I believe in freedom and that the guy says he's in Texas and that if I ever come to Texas I'm in deep trouble.

00:12:16.000 Well, I'm right here in Texas, sir.

00:12:20.000 And of course, I'm a big liberal, and I need to be stopped, and the war is holy, and basically, I'm with the devil.

00:12:29.000 So, I guess Ron Paul is with his big story, Neocon, that we posted a few days ago.

00:12:36.000 Neocond.

00:12:37.000 neo conned neo conned

00:12:46.000 where he talks about the biggest threat being the neo conned Maybe later I'll read this. 0.81

00:12:50.000 There's so much profanity from this Christian conservative that I can't read but about half of it. 1.00

00:12:55.000 The person is an incoherent babbling idiot. 1.00

00:12:59.000 But what's coming up in the news today, mortar attacks on U.S. 1.00

00:13:03.000 bases growing.

00:13:06.000 Mortar attacks on U.S. 0.57

00:13:06.000 bases in Iraq booming. 0.57

00:13:09.000 And becoming a growing problem for troops.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, problem.

00:13:12.000 But Bush is back the hearst up and he's waving the coffins into the back.

00:13:17.000 Bring them on.

00:13:18.000 I saw an editorial cartoon.

00:13:21.000 And a lot of conservatives, real conservatives, are mad about this because, you know, you don't say bring it on because that does encourage attacks.

00:13:28.000 And by the way, you don't release three separate battle plans to attack North Korea detailing how you plan to attack them.

00:13:36.000 That endangers the troops.

00:13:37.000 I mean, even if you're going to go in there and it's the right thing to do, which it's not, you still don't release the battle plan. 0.99

00:13:45.000 But again, this is trying to get North Korea to do something stupid, and they are. 0.95

00:13:48.000 They're doing jet overflights. 0.99

00:13:50.000 They've got patrol boats shooting at people.

00:13:53.000 They're shooting almost every day now.

00:13:55.000 The South Korean troops, a massive escalation, the five-foot demon, the demigod, the hereditary dictator, we have one here too, but the hereditary dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-il, is running around foaming at the mouth now, after Rumsfeld gave him the weapons. 0.66

00:14:12.000 And they've got the nukes, by the way, and they're threatening Japan, and Japan's in an arms race now, building nukes, massive escalation, World War III, that's coming up.

00:14:22.000 A pro-American mayor's son killed in Iraq yesterday.

00:14:26.000 U.S.

00:14:26.000 soldier.

00:14:29.000 Iraqi child, pro-American mayor and son killed in Iraq, a Saddam loyalist attack.

00:14:33.000 These aren't Saddam loyalists, but again, it's like Goldstein. 0.91

00:14:37.000 There's the boogeyman from 1984.

00:14:39.000 Anytime there's a problem, oh, it's Goldstein.

00:14:42.000 The Iraqi people love being arrested if they're caught selling things in the city bazaars without a special Halliburton license, who gets to run the country and own the people as the slaves, literally. 1.00

00:14:55.000 You can't have a job without their certification.

00:14:57.000 You're caught selling baggage, beer.

00:14:59.000 You're caught selling guns.

00:15:01.000 You're caught selling light bulbs.

00:15:04.000 There's no trading allowed.

00:15:05.000 I mean, that's the Associated Press.

00:15:07.000 They put a bag over your head, take you where they chain you up with your knees bent up under you.

00:15:11.000 Horrible form of torture.

00:15:13.000 Well, they say it's not.

00:15:14.000 I guess when the Vietnamese did it to our troops, it was actually good, you know. 1.00

00:15:18.000 I always thought it was bad, you know.

00:15:19.000 I was against the communist North Vietnamese, but maybe now they were good, you know, because We do the same thing to people now. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Cheney under pressure to quit over false war evidence and the fact that he's got all the private contracts with no bids allowed in Iraq.

00:15:35.000 Anger grows on both sides of Atlantic at mishandling claims of the eve of Iraq conflict.

00:15:42.000 And that will they scapegoat Cheney? 0.70

00:15:45.000 Doesn't matter, they're all just puppets.

00:15:47.000 Of course, Cheney's nowhere to be seen, generally at the Grove this time of year.

00:15:52.000 We'll find out after the Grove ends its meeting in two weeks if he was there.

00:15:57.000 But he's generally there.

00:15:59.000 That's where they handle policy there, Northern California.

00:16:03.000 That's where he was chosen as the VP running mate in 99.

00:16:06.000 That was announced at CNN, by the way.

00:16:09.000 Uh, there's a bunch of other articles here.

00:16:11.000 Again, we have, uh, Dr. David Race Bannon.

00:16:14.000 I guess our Johnny Quest music will fit in nice with that, Race Bannon.

00:16:18.000 But, uh, Dr. David Race Bannon joining us.

00:16:23.000 The secret mission of the Interpol agent who tracked the world's most sinister criminals.

00:16:28.000 And, uh, that's coming up in the second hour.

00:16:29.000 A listener sent me this email, and a famous quote wanted me to read it.

00:16:34.000 And I agree, this James Madison quote is good.

00:16:38.000 Knowledge will forever govern ignorance.

00:16:40.000 People who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power that it gives.

00:16:48.000 A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy of perhaps both James Madison, fourth president of the United States.

00:17:01.000 And I've got official Department of Education, UN, and Senate documents going back from last year to 1899 where they say that educated masses are hard to govern.

00:17:14.000 We must remove critical thinking and understanding of history from their grasp.

00:17:19.000 Well, that's a quote from a Senate document.

00:17:21.000 We've posted that on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:17:25.000 It's from the memory hole.

00:17:26.000 Another Orwellian illusion.

00:17:29.000 A few weeks ago, it was the Newsmax publication.

00:17:32.000 I actually have the UNESCO document, but they put it on the web for us.

00:17:35.000 I appreciate that.

00:17:36.000 Where they say the families of disease must be eradicated.

00:17:39.000 By the way, they write policy for the Department of Education.

00:17:42.000 See, then you wonder why, with the guests we have coming up, you wonder why With this situation, if your child, your young adult is 15, about to graduate from college, they say, no, you can't have your degree, and we're going to go ahead and criminally charge you, and you may be taken from the home.

00:18:03.000 We hear this all the time.

00:18:04.000 You've got kids that win the Spelling Bee, they're in the paper, they're 12, they're in a high school level senior Spelling Bee, they win, this was in the news a few weeks ago, and then CPS comes You never filled out your paperwork to not be in public school.

00:18:22.000 The father says, no, you're not taking my child to be tested in some government office building.

00:18:28.000 No, that's fine.

00:18:29.000 We'll be back in two hours with a warrant.

00:18:31.000 They come, take the kid.

00:18:32.000 The mother's crying, begging.

00:18:34.000 The bureaucrat laughs.

00:18:38.000 No one's gonna stop us!

00:18:39.000 The neocons defend us! 1.00

00:18:41.000 The neocons would talk about this on their filthy, dirty, liberal talk shows. 0.98

00:18:45.000 This would all end overnight. 0.97

00:18:47.000 But it won't. 1.00

00:18:48.000 It's all how stupid Hillary is, and how stupid and how evil Jesse Jackson is. 1.00

00:18:53.000 We already know that. 1.00

00:18:54.000 Okay?

00:18:54.000 Let's talk about the real evil, as Ron Paul did.

00:18:57.000 The neocons, who were ramming the whole agenda through.

00:19:00.000 These people are scary, folks. 0.99

00:19:04.000 They are so evil. 0.99

00:19:05.000 They are so self-righteous. 0.99

00:19:06.000 They are so out of control.

00:19:11.000 We're in so much trouble, folks.

00:19:12.000 We're in so much trouble.

00:19:15.000 I mean, your kid wins a Spelling Bee and so CPS comes after you?

00:19:20.000 Your young adult's 15, graduating from college with honors, and so CPS comes with police?

00:19:28.000 I mean, is that what... You see, but they put this out on purpose.

00:19:33.000 They put this in the news on purpose to condition you to accept it.

00:19:36.000 That's why they put it in the news that, yeah, we put cameras in the 10-year-old boys' and girls' showers in public schools now.

00:19:44.000 Source Associated Press, yeah, it's for your safety.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, the images are accessible over the net, but... You know, this is the new America, folks.

00:19:55.000 And you're just gonna sit there and take it, aren't you?

00:19:57.000 Well, you better not.

00:20:00.000 By the way, Bush again says he'll sign the assault weapons ban.

00:20:03.000 That's how conservative he is.

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00:24:48.000 5.085 and 68.90 now I've read the official

00:24:54.000 Government Senate documents where they say an educated population is hard to govern.

00:24:58.000 We need to destroy the thinking process of the American people that's over 100 years old.

00:25:03.000 UNESCO plans from the 50s saying that the family's the enemy.

00:25:09.000 Must be destroyed.

00:25:10.000 Bush, of course, is signing on to that.

00:25:13.000 We've had the former head of policy, Department of Education, number two position in the first Reagan administration, Carolyn Isserby on. 1.00

00:25:19.000 She has the official documents, internal documents, classified documents, where they talk about how they want to train the kids to be mindless idiots. 0.99

00:25:28.000 And you don't see any greater evidence of how they don't want any free minds out there than the New York Post. 0.95

00:25:35.000 They reported on Angela Lipsman, Who got into college at 11, at a big accredited college, and has a 3.8 grade average, and they were very proud of her, and now the judge got involved and said, you can't have your degree, you didn't go to our accredited public school, you didn't go to your government training camp for proper dumbing down, and CPS, Child Grabbing Services, has been called in, and we've seen articles where, again, a 12-year-old wins a spelling bee with seniors,

00:26:07.000 Uh, you know, and suddenly CPS is at their door.

00:26:10.000 They just hate it that these kids are not being ruined by the system.

00:26:14.000 And it's... I don't know if the CPS consciously knows this.

00:26:18.000 They're like Hitler stormtroopers. 0.88

00:26:20.000 They just follow orders mindlessly.

00:26:22.000 But the system itself is there to destroy any free minds.

00:26:26.000 This is a drone-like Brave New World system.

00:26:28.000 And, of course, Aldous Huxley, who wrote Brave New World, said that he learned this from his brother, who was a big socialist, and the first Secretary General of UNESCO, after, of course, he'd written the book, that it was the government's plan to create this drone society, and now you see much of that developing.

00:26:45.000 and of course you have the eugenics master and uh... nazi promoter

00:26:49.000 uh... out there as well uh...

00:26:51.000 h_d_ wells pushing all of this and so we see it today with peter singer and

00:26:55.000 others in margaret singer and others

00:26:57.000 this is the whole move uh... we're joined by daniel lips man

00:27:01.000 and uh... his uh... daughter angela lips man uh... and we really appreciate you coming on the show today

00:27:07.000 please pleasure to be here uh... daniel uh... this uh... tell us first what happened

00:27:14.000 will come back and talk about uh... what's developed uh... uh... a sense of

00:27:18.000 this story came out in the new york post

00:27:21.000 Basically, Alex, what happened was that my daughter, Angela, started part-time in college nine days after her eleventh birthday, concurrent with her regular grade schooling.

00:27:33.000 When she entered eighth grade a year ago, uh... excuse me uh... after finishing eighth grade one year

00:27:41.000 ago we had determined that in fact she was ready for college and that

00:27:45.000 high school would have nothing substantial to offer her 0.62

00:27:48.000 so we started her full time in college however

00:27:52.000 uh... when we sought an equivalency diploma from the state the state education department said

00:27:58.000 sorry if you haven't been on this earth long enough you cannot have

00:28:02.000 a high school equivalency diploma And I said to them, well that's ridiculous because a high school diploma is not supposed to, meant to be a substitute birth certificate.

00:28:11.000 Well my dad had his high school accreditation and I mean he was off when he was a junior in high school at MD Anderson Cancer Research Facility as an intern.

00:28:25.000 Well, let me say this much, Alex.

00:28:28.000 The bottom line is that there are many states that are perhaps more enlightened than a major industrial state like New York.

00:28:36.000 As a matter of fact, in my humble opinion, Judge Bernard Malone's decision demonstrated a depraved indifference to equal protection.

00:28:43.000 There was no evidence he considered or even looked at petitioners' memorandum of law with research exhibits.

00:28:50.000 Uh, apparently the judge is a guy whose mind was made up and he didn't want to be confused with the facts.

00:28:56.000 The case I brought had nothing to do with the compulsory ed law.

00:29:00.000 It had everything to do with an arbitrary and capricious age requirement for a high school diploma that was totally irrelevant to the academic achievement for the diploma.

00:29:10.000 Now, the college can, uh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the state, it is I, or I am the state.

00:29:15.000 Malone's decision reeks of that attitude.

00:29:19.000 It appears to me the guy went to law school and became a judge while blissfully ignorant of the Bill of Rights.

00:29:24.000 Judges who turn a blind eye to equal protection under law are a disgrace to justice, the Constitution, and the judiciary.

00:29:30.000 Malone's cynical decision only reinforces Lipsman's first rule of law.

00:29:34.000 Law is whatever the judge says it is.

00:29:37.000 Malone says I defy the law of the state.

00:29:39.000 Guilty as charged.

00:29:41.000 Not only that, but it seems to have escaped his notice that I had a duty to disobey this law.

00:29:45.000 Daniel, stay there.

00:29:46.000 We've got a... We've got a break, sir.

00:29:48.000 I want to come back and talk about this, and we really appreciate you coming on with us, and of course we'll be able to talk to your daughter as well, Angela, and what this has been like for her.

00:29:58.000 Please stay with us.

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00:30:46.000 Alright folks, Alex Jones here, back live.

00:30:49.000 And I really appreciate Daniel Lipsman and his daughter, Angela Lipsman, coming on the show.

00:30:55.000 Big article in the New York Post yesterday.

00:30:57.000 It's on Infowars.com right now.

00:31:00.000 A couple weeks ago they reported about the whiz kid who has a 3.8 grade average at college.

00:31:06.000 She entered college at 11 while still going to the government training camp, the public school, and now she's graduated from college, and the government, the judge is saying she can't have her college diploma, she can't have her high school diploma, and CPS, Child Grabbing Services, has been called in for educational neglect.

00:31:29.000 Now, Daniel Lipsman, and when your daughter would like to jump in any time, that's fine, this judge, as you said, Is just out of control.

00:31:38.000 He wants to set the precedent that you've got to go to his, you know, his government-run system.

00:31:44.000 Well, the judge had the raw power to temporarily stop Angela from getting her diploma, Alex.

00:31:48.000 Yet, this particular judge has no power to force her into high school. 0.86

00:31:52.000 Despite this judicial travesty, Angela will continue her college program full-time in September.

00:31:58.000 As for the New York City Department of Education, The Central School Superintendent, Joel Klein, has declined to respond to my efforts to settle a related administrative matter in the situation.

00:32:10.000 There's been no response from him or his office in nearly six weeks to me, nor for over two weeks to the message sent to him by my local state senator.

00:32:19.000 And parenthetically, he got a waiver to get his job as Central School Superintendent.

00:32:24.000 Angela can't get a letter saying her 33 college courses and 71 credits for the 3.84 index plus two regions exams is the substantial equivalent of a New York City high school diploma.

00:32:35.000 Let me turn you over to Angela now, Alex.

00:32:38.000 And this is the young lady, 15 years old, who's trying to graduate from college with a 3.84.

00:32:43.000 of the 3.84 and uh... Angela what has this been like to to to to be a great student to

00:32:53.000 be a great daughter and then to have the government come after your father and you

00:32:56.000 Your mother?

00:32:57.000 Well, it's annoying.

00:32:58.000 It hurts because you do the work, and you go to school, and you expect that you're going to get what you believe you have earned and deserve, and then all of a sudden they tell you, oh, no, wait, you're too young.

00:33:12.000 You can't get it.

00:33:13.000 Sorry.

00:33:14.000 I thought they wanted people to be educated and to do good in school, but I guess their own documents don't say that, but those aren't publicized.

00:33:24.000 When was CPS called in?

00:33:26.000 The New York Post says that people read a news article and someone called in an anonymous tip that they thought that was abuse, that you were 15 and graduating from college.

00:33:37.000 We found out about this in late June.

00:33:40.000 Someone visited our home while we were outside.

00:33:44.000 And we found the papers in the door when we got back.

00:33:47.000 Oh, what papers were those?

00:33:49.000 Let me jump in on that, Alex.

00:33:52.000 It's from the Administration for Children's Services, Manhattan Division of Child Protection.

00:33:56.000 And the start of the letter says, Dear Daniel Lipson, this is to inform you that you are the subject of a report of suspected child abuse and maltreatment.

00:34:04.000 received by the New York State Child Abuse and Maltreatment Register.

00:34:07.000 This means that you have been ID'd as the person who is responsible for causing or

00:34:11.000 allowing to be inflicted injury, abuse, or maltreatment to the child.

00:34:16.000 This report has been transmitted to Manhattan County Child Protective Service

00:34:19.000 for commencement of an investigation and evaluation of the report as required by the New York

00:34:24.000 State Child Protective Services Act.

00:34:27.000 So your daughter is graduating from college with a 3.84

00:34:33.000 uh... companies will be begging to get her while other kids are in the 1.00

00:34:38.000 public school snorting cocaine and learning how to be frisked and sniffed by drug

00:34:43.000 dogs and learning how to be gang members, your daughter will be working for a Fortune 500

00:34:47.000 company. This is really horrible abuse. 0.50

00:34:51.000 Well, it certainly isn't pleasant, that's for sure.

00:34:55.000 You're the ones that are being abused, and you're being harassed, and I know you've had damages here.

00:35:00.000 I know this has caused you a lot of anguish.

00:35:02.000 You need to sue these people.

00:35:04.000 Well, unfortunately, Alex, basically, I think they have a sort of sovereign tort immunity.

00:35:11.000 They can claim that all day.

00:35:12.000 That's not actually the case, even in New York.

00:35:15.000 Because I've looked at the New York laws.

00:35:17.000 They can claim, I mean, Hitler could claim he was sovereign and invincible. 0.85

00:35:23.000 Stalin could say it. 0.97

00:35:24.000 It doesn't mean it's the case.

00:35:26.000 Well, I haven't had very good experiences so far in some of the courts of New York.

00:35:33.000 I understand, but obviously I would imagine public opinion is on your side.

00:35:38.000 The court of public opinion I think we're doing a lot better in.

00:35:42.000 They don't think they care, Daniel Lipsman.

00:35:45.000 I think they want everybody to have a chilling effect.

00:35:48.000 That, hey, this is a message.

00:35:49.000 We don't want you to do good. 1.00

00:35:50.000 We want you to be an idiot. 1.00

00:35:54.000 They may be succeeding. 1.00

00:35:55.000 They may be succeeding, unfortunately.

00:36:00.000 But as long as there are people out there, Alex, such as yourself, that can get the message across, I think the media becomes an 800-pound gorilla that's good for fighting the 800-pound gorilla of the state.

00:36:15.000 Now, Albany Supreme Court Justice Bernard Malone ruled Monday that because she's not 17, Angela is too young to obtain a high school diplomacy diploma.

00:36:24.000 There's people in Texas I know that are 13 that get it. 0.89

00:36:27.000 That's ridiculous.

00:36:28.000 If you can take the test and pass it and get out of the system, why not? 0.88

00:36:33.000 And then it goes back to whose children are they?

00:36:36.000 Sometimes I wish we lived in Texas.

00:36:38.000 Oh, well, it's getting bad here too, my friend.

00:36:42.000 So when you talk to these bureaucrats, I mean, how do they abuse you like this and still sleep at night?

00:36:50.000 That's a good question.

00:36:53.000 Unfortunately, I'm not able to answer that.

00:36:56.000 Let me say this, though.

00:36:58.000 We are, the effects of this decision from Judge Malone.

00:37:03.000 Judge Malone does not have the power to force Angela into a local crummy city high school.

00:37:11.000 She will be taking a full five course, 15 credit program in the fall at the college where she is registered.

00:37:18.000 And the only thing that, first of all, I will go to jail before she goes to a city high school. 0.59

00:37:23.000 I've taken that vow and I mean it.

00:37:25.000 But what would be required is for the government to move against us in New York City, home into court, and try to nail Mike Lyddius Maximus to the wall and say, look, you are violating compulsory ed law.

00:37:39.000 We're going to put you in jail.

00:37:40.000 We're going to take your daughter away. 0.99

00:37:42.000 We will see what happens.

00:37:45.000 Uh, in the future.

00:37:46.000 I don't know how long it's going to be.

00:37:48.000 So, the others, 15, 3.84 grade average, about to graduate with their first degree from college.

00:37:54.000 That isn't good enough.

00:37:55.000 That's bad.

00:37:56.000 And they've started these, uh, I guess these criminal proceedings.

00:38:00.000 Uh, any idea where this is going, uh, with the, uh, with the, uh, forces over there?

00:38:05.000 No, Alex, but I will say one thing.

00:38:07.000 I think that, uh, with programs like yourself and, uh, other media, It may be giving some of these individuals second thoughts because almost all of the feedback, in fact all of the feedback that I know of that we've received so far, whether it was in the form of email, whether it was radio stations, television, word of mouth, everything in terms of the public has so far been positive.

00:38:33.000 Now what does this say though about the government's mindset, and I see this all over the country, not just New York, Where your daughter is, there's a great photo over here, you know, energetic, beautiful, smart, all of this, and, I mean, there's lots of children, young adults that are graduating from college at 14, 15, 16, thousands of them, and your daughter is in that top 1%. 0.79

00:38:59.000 I mean, this is asinine! 0.99

00:39:02.000 This is ridiculous! 1.00

00:39:03.000 This makes me really angry! 1.00

00:39:04.000 These people ought to be ashamed of themselves!

00:39:07.000 I'm trying to get to the mindset of these people!

00:39:10.000 Well, they don't want the competition, Alex.

00:39:12.000 Because the sooner these people get out of school and get into the labor force, they will be competing for those nice prizes out there in society.

00:39:22.000 Whether it's in medicine, law, journalism, on college faculties, The point is that you're taking the best and the brightest, and you're allowing them to compete with some of these educrats who are very uncomfortable.

00:39:38.000 Also, you're goring the ox, if you will.

00:39:43.000 For example, if you have Angela graduating four years early, and you replicate this over and over and over again, you have a situation where you don't need so many teachers in front of the classroom.

00:39:55.000 And you don't need the schools being turned into little mini prison camps training the children how to be prisoners.

00:40:03.000 What do you say about that, Angela?

00:40:05.000 Well, that sounds accurate in some situations.

00:40:10.000 What are New York schools like?

00:40:11.000 I know there are little prisons here in a lot of areas of Texas.

00:40:15.000 Well, there's a bit of a variance.

00:40:18.000 You have the local high schools where you would have more things on the side.

00:40:24.000 And you have the specialized high schools where you have more homework.

00:40:28.000 But you don't want to be shaken down by the gang members and the police in these public schools?

00:40:35.000 Yeah.

00:40:35.000 You don't want to learn how to... I mean, because, you know, you will learn, I guess, all the horrible things that go on in these high schools.

00:40:45.000 Well, that was one of the things I wanted to avoid.

00:40:48.000 You don't want that type of socialization, I guess.

00:40:52.000 You know, there's a big report out on daycare.

00:40:54.000 Just throwing your kid into a daycare and it says they're like, you know, many times more likely to be violent.

00:40:59.000 I think it speaks to parents educating and raising their children.

00:41:04.000 Oh, wow, what a novel idea.

00:41:05.000 And I guess that, I mean, as your father said, it's competition to their monopoly.

00:41:13.000 That's the truth, Alex.

00:41:16.000 Any idea on who, quote, filed this anonymous Stasi-type report?

00:41:23.000 I mean, again, your daughter's in the newspaper.

00:41:25.000 Oh, look how young and smart she is. 1.00

00:41:26.000 3.84, you know, graduating from college at 15, in college at 11, and then suddenly the police and the CPS are after you.

00:41:35.000 I mean, I would imagine that this was probably a complaint filed by a CPS worker.

00:41:39.000 What do you think?

00:41:41.000 I think it's entirely possible.

00:41:45.000 The bottom line is that when I started this, I didn't wind up making any friends among the establishment, among the educrats.

00:41:58.000 And I did, in fact, openly defy them.

00:42:01.000 Did I break the law on paper officially?

00:42:03.000 Yes, I did.

00:42:04.000 Guilty as charged.

00:42:06.000 The bottom line is that I have stood there and said, I am not going to comply with the compulsory education law, as you folks have interpreted it. 0.88

00:42:16.000 Well, they had laws that black people couldn't drink out of water fountains. 0.99

00:42:20.000 So does that mean those laws are good?

00:42:22.000 Well, that's precisely the point, Alex.

00:42:24.000 When you have a law that says that, Uh, you know, sure, that was on the books, but the point is that it was declared unconstitutional.

00:42:32.000 In other words, they didn't have the right to pass such a law.

00:42:35.000 And the argument we're making is the very same thing.

00:42:37.000 That the government didn't have the right to pass a compulsory... For example, it's supposed to be a compulsory education law on the books, not a compulsory attendance law.

00:42:48.000 The only people that I know that are serving compulsory attendance are those that have been convicted of felonies and misdemeanors and they've been sentenced for a crime.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, but that's really what they're doing.

00:42:57.000 High school's not supposed to be a prison.

00:43:00.000 Well, you ought to read the federal documents.

00:43:02.000 That's exactly what they are.

00:43:04.000 You just hit on it.

00:43:06.000 Just with your own native intelligence without even seeing the documents, sir.

00:43:09.000 I have UNESCO, Department of Education, and I got Senate hearings a hundred years ago where they said it's about molding minds for this mass, you know, basic system for the state.

00:43:24.000 So, I mean, what you just said is exactly what they have stated, and the teachers are dumbed down and go, oh, I'm not doing that.

00:43:31.000 Well, you're following the orders in a compartmentalized system that deploys and develops that type of mass mind control.

00:43:41.000 Angela Lipsman, any other comments that you'd like to make to the audience?

00:43:44.000 Or Daniel Lipsman, your father, any final comments for the listeners?

00:43:49.000 Angela?

00:43:53.000 I believe that the decision that came down was unfair.

00:43:57.000 Obviously, I don't think the judge believes the same, but I just hope that this turns out for the best and that other students out there will be able to pursue their education however is best for them.

00:44:18.000 As for me, Alex, my view is very simple.

00:44:22.000 We have a constitution.

00:44:24.000 We're supposed to be living by that constitution.

00:44:27.000 And the judge is supposed to uphold the constitution.

00:44:30.000 And when you get a decision like this that says the law is whatever I say it is, and what's constitutional or not is whatever I say it is, that's disgraceful and brings disgrace to the black robe that the judge wears.

00:44:47.000 Sir, you know somebody can walk in and take the bar and if they can pass it they can become a lawyer without going to law school.

00:44:52.000 You know somebody can get into medical school even if they haven't finished college if the examiners believe that they're up to par.

00:44:59.000 Now, I don't know about the particular laws in New York on this, but I believe the college can go ahead and give her her diploma that she's earned with an 8.4 GPA.

00:45:08.000 A 3.84?

00:45:09.000 Well, unfortunately, Alex, they also have a law in place in New York that says that without having a high school diploma first, or its equivalent, you cannot get your college degree, and this college would be shut down immediately if they issued her degree without that.

00:45:27.000 Wow, New York really is bad.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 You've got the bureaucrats telling the professors and the deans, this is out of control.

00:45:34.000 This is out of control.

00:45:37.000 Well, it's simple.

00:45:38.000 It's a business.

00:45:38.000 They want a monopoly of their quasi, you know, re-education slash preparation for the penal colony system.

00:45:45.000 That's what the public schools are.

00:45:49.000 I'm serious.

00:45:49.000 And they're trying to destroy your daughter's future.

00:45:53.000 Mr. Lipsman, I think you have massive, massive damages if they continue this.

00:45:59.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:46:00.000 For folks that might want to, we have a lot of lawyers, a lot of people that listen to this show, we have a couple of affiliates in upstate New York, three of them were on in Buffalo and Rochester and Niagara.

00:46:11.000 For folks that might want to call the governor or the school board or the city, the legislature, for folks that want to support you in New York, how do they do that?

00:46:24.000 Well, what I would suggest is that they write their state senator and state assemblyman, particularly the state senators, and say, see here, we have a constitution.

00:46:37.000 And it should be respected.

00:46:40.000 We have a way of reversing the effects of this decision.

00:46:44.000 And the way to do that is to have the state legislature pass a rule which... That your children are your children and you control their education.

00:46:52.000 Now, real quick, give an email address for folks that might want to contact you.

00:46:57.000 Angela, do you have your email address?

00:47:01.000 Yeah.

00:47:01.000 Okay.

00:47:03.000 Would you like to give it out?

00:47:05.000 I mean, you don't have to.

00:47:07.000 I'm just saying people might send you guys some federal rulings, state rulings.

00:47:10.000 Well, no, the problem, Alex, is that she shares it with two other kids, and they may not want to.

00:47:15.000 Oh, I understand now.

00:47:17.000 Well, if folks want to get a hold of you, I'm sure they can find out how to do it.

00:47:20.000 I can give my address, though.

00:47:22.000 I don't mind that.

00:47:23.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:47:23.000 It's Daniel Lipsman, L-I-P-S-M-A-N, 4420 Broadway, Apartment 4F, as in Frank, New York City, New York.

00:47:36.000 1-0-0-4-0, and I'll be glad to respond to anybody and everybody that I can.

00:47:42.000 Well, if more Americans stood up and really loved their children, and now you're a young adult, and really cared, and if more people were focused like your daughter, we would live in a free society.

00:47:52.000 But I'm telling you, Mr. Lipsman, we're losing America, and I think you recognize that.

00:47:56.000 And to get America back, more Americans have to recognize that, and hopefully before they get squashed By this, uh, this corrupt system.

00:48:05.000 Thank you for coming on the show.

00:48:06.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:48:07.000 God bless you.

00:48:08.000 And, uh, Angela, you take care and keep it up.

00:48:10.000 Okay, thanks.

00:48:10.000 Bye-bye.

00:48:12.000 Alright, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:14.000 I mean, you talk about the criminality of government.

00:48:16.000 Here's another example of it.

00:48:19.000 Tell me it's not out of control.

00:48:20.000 Tell me that the goal isn't to dumb your children down and to hold them back and to turn them into mindless, drooling sports fans.

00:48:28.000 We'll be right back with more news, more info.

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00:51:46.000 Coming up, eight minutes into the next hour, we have Dr. David Race Bannon coming on.

00:51:52.000 Race Against Evil, the secret missions of the Interpol agent who tracked the world's most sinister criminals.

00:52:00.000 I don't really know what to say about this whole story because what I think of Interpol and what I know about the UN and who's involved in a lot of the crimes listed in this book, but we'll find out with the guests.

00:52:14.000 It should be interesting.

00:52:15.000 I know we've got Ron in New York and Dan in California and others that are holding.

00:52:19.000 We'll get to you too.

00:52:20.000 The guest is coming in about eight minutes to the next hour.

00:52:22.000 Real quick, my new film, Police State, three total enslavements out.

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00:52:53.000 We'll be right back with the next hour here in just a few minutes with your calls and the guests and just a lot of other news I haven't gotten to yet.

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00:53:24.000 Can you hear me?

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00:55:58.000 No, thanks very much, Alex.

00:55:59.000 Keep up the good work.

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00:56:08.000 We'll be right back with the second hour, your calls, the guests, a bunch of news.

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00:56:46.000 Big Brother.

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00:56:50.000 Government cover-ups.

00:56:52.000 You want answers?

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00:56:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:57:03.000 Okay, we got a great guest coming up in just a few minutes and a bunch of news.

00:57:08.000 Let's go right to the calls right now.

00:57:10.000 Ron in New York, quickly.

00:57:11.000 You're on the air.

00:57:11.000 Go ahead.

00:57:13.000 Hi, Alex.

00:57:14.000 I'm glad to see that you had that gentleman on today.

00:57:16.000 Oh yeah, it's illegal now to have your 15-year-old with a 3.84 rate average, so the government's coming after him with CPS.

00:57:23.000 Well, I'm going to tell you something.

00:57:25.000 There's a few things there you should get some really good legal counsel, both in New York State education law and constitutional law.

00:57:32.000 And he kind of is, with his own, as you said, native intelligence deriving at some conclusions that are accurate.

00:57:38.000 First thing that he was wrong on, though, is he said New York can't be sued.

00:57:42.000 It's a sovereign.

00:57:43.000 New York is not a sovereign state.

00:57:45.000 Well, I mean, of course government claims you can't sue them, but they lose suits all the time.

00:57:49.000 Alex, in the state of New York, they can't even claim that.

00:57:53.000 It's not a sovereign state.

00:57:54.000 Georgia's a sovereign state.

00:57:56.000 The United States government is a sovereign.

00:57:58.000 New York is not a sovereign.

00:57:59.000 That's commonly known for a very long time.

00:58:01.000 He can sue any executive agency such as Child Protective Services in the state of New York.

00:58:06.000 No, but of course they'll tell you you can't.

00:58:08.000 Well, they can say what they want.

00:58:10.000 Okay, real quick, Ron, anything else?

00:58:12.000 Yes, secondly, believe it or not, aside from his constitutional and educational arguments that he has, there is a process by which, because the educational law, which I'm familiar with, states the minimums that are required in order to get a high school diploma.

00:58:29.000 His daughter exceeded the minimum.

00:58:31.000 See, they don't set a maximum.

00:58:32.000 They want to punish her because it sets a precedent. 1.00

00:58:35.000 Thanks for the call. 0.97

00:58:36.000 They want your kid dumbed down.

00:58:37.000 They want them in the prison system.

00:58:39.000 Schools, public schools, are a preparatory system for prison.

00:58:43.000 And this is admitted, folks.

00:58:45.000 Dave in California, in Northern California.

00:58:47.000 Welcome.

00:58:48.000 Howdy, Alex.

00:58:49.000 Hello, Dave.

00:58:49.000 I just wanted to congratulate you on your excellent interview with Ann Coulter last week.

00:58:54.000 The level of discourse I heard from her is a good example of the dumbing down of America that you're discussing right now.

00:58:59.000 Yes, a babbling neocon.

00:59:00.000 Yes, and I just wanted to tell you that I was thrilled to hear her honking and flapping like a goose that's been run over by a truck. 0.98

00:59:09.000 You know, it doesn't surprise me.

00:59:10.000 Did we expose her as the liberal she is? 1.00

00:59:14.000 Do I use her own term?

00:59:16.000 Yeah, you did a great job.

00:59:17.000 You let her dig her own ditch and you bulldozed her into it. 0.99

00:59:21.000 And I love the dumb blonde question you asked at the beginning, and I was kind of wondering, you know, where's he going with this? 0.99

00:59:26.000 And then at the end, you know, you left her exposed as either the dumb blonde that she is or the dumb blonde she claims to be because she didn't have any facts. 1.00

00:59:34.000 And the Bush mascot thing was nice, and the neocon thing was nice. 0.94

00:59:40.000 All in all, I mean, I give you an A-plus on that, man.

00:59:42.000 It was really nice to hear for a change.

00:59:45.000 Everybody loved that.

00:59:46.000 Look, we've got more neocons coming on for you.

00:59:49.000 I'm going to have all of them on the show.

00:59:51.000 Oh, that's great.

00:59:51.000 Well, I'll be sure and listen to you every day.

00:59:54.000 Both large and small neokinds will be on display. 1.00

00:59:57.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:59:58.000 Okay, see you, man.

00:59:59.000 Appreciate it, brother.

01:00:00.000 Bill in Wisconsin, you're on the air worldwide.

01:00:02.000 Go ahead.

01:00:03.000 Yeah, Alex, I just want to agree with the last caller there.

01:00:08.000 You did a tremendous job on her.

01:00:10.000 I just can't stand her. 1.00

01:00:12.000 She really thinks she's something, and, uh, you did a job.

01:00:15.000 She said, she said, I haven't read the Patriot Act.

01:00:17.000 I said, well, you want me to read you a subsection?

01:00:19.000 No.

01:00:20.000 I go, but you wrote in your book about how it doesn't take our rights.

01:00:23.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 And how we're liars.

01:00:25.000 Yeah.

01:00:25.000 And I said, don't tell me it's about Hillary Clinton.

01:00:28.000 Hillary Clinton voted for it.

01:00:29.000 Right.

01:00:30.000 Another thing that she said, uh, Republicans always end the wars. 0.96

01:00:35.000 Well, Nixon ended that Vietnam War, didn't he?

01:00:38.000 Uh, you go back and look at the tapes of the poor Vietnamese people trying to get on these helicopters as we left them to the commies. 0.99

01:00:47.000 And then about 500,000 were executed by the commies.

01:00:50.000 Right.

01:00:51.000 And then our troops got left there, but that's again, that's a conservative thing to do.

01:00:55.000 And then on McCarthy, It was Dwight Eisenhower who knifed McCarthy in the back.

01:00:55.000 Right.

01:01:00.000 Yeah, see, she wanted to, and she had to admit that.

01:01:02.000 She goes, okay, well, I'm not going to get into that.

01:01:04.000 Yeah, it was the Republicans that finally did him in when he exposed that they were above the liberals and above the communists.

01:01:11.000 It just came out on the national news here the other day.

01:01:14.000 And, you know, we've known about it for quite some time, but Harry Truman did not want to run again.

01:01:20.000 And actually, in 1948, didn't want to run.

01:01:24.000 He wanted Dwight Eisenhower.

01:01:25.000 Yeah, that was the letter.

01:01:26.000 It showed the Democrats and Republicans staging elections.

01:01:30.000 Yeah.

01:01:30.000 They just found another one of his certified diaries.

01:01:33.000 Right.

01:01:34.000 Right.

01:01:34.000 Yeah, I was reading that.

01:01:34.000 The diary.

01:01:35.000 He had some other interesting stuff to say.

01:01:37.000 Right.

01:01:37.000 We'll be right back.

01:01:38.000 Thanks, brother.

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01:04:43.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

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01:04:55.000 Alright folks, we're back live.

01:04:57.000 Alex Jones here.

01:04:59.000 And I'd like to ask the folks running the show, do we have our next... We do have our next guest.

01:05:04.000 Well, that's good.

01:05:07.000 Very interesting information.

01:05:08.000 You know, on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, we've posted AP, Reuters, United Press International, BBC stories about major corporations The United Nations, U.N.

01:05:27.000 peacekeepers and others running giant white slavery rings.

01:05:30.000 Now, this is all mainstream news.

01:05:32.000 They've caught the Dutch royal family involved in it.

01:05:35.000 That's BBC.

01:05:36.000 They've caught major governors and mayors in France doing things we can't even mention on the air.

01:05:42.000 But it's hard for the average American to believe stuff like this.

01:05:47.000 You know, it was hard to believe what John Wayne Gacy did, or Ted Bundy.

01:05:52.000 But throughout history you find elites are involved in this more often than the common man or woman.

01:06:00.000 So the common man or woman is in denial.

01:06:04.000 I had a chance to read some of his book, I just got it last week, and it's Race Against Evil, the secret missions of the Interpol agent who tracked the world's most cynical criminals, and I know there's good people in government, I know the government in some areas does fight this stuff, and in some areas I've found government involved in it and government protecting it, but he also got into anti-terrorism and KAL 858 bombing and a bunch of others, it's an amazing story.

01:06:31.000 And so we'll talk about that coming up with our guest here in a few minutes.

01:06:35.000 And yes, we'll take calls and talk about the development of possible World War III with North Korea, Syria, Iran, and much more.

01:06:44.000 With the former Defense Secretary saying, quote, nukes will go off in the U.S.

01:06:48.000 I mean, this is chilling stuff.

01:06:50.000 And that is from the Washington Post, by the way.

01:06:52.000 I haven't really spent enough time on that since Monday.

01:06:54.000 This has been out since Monday.

01:06:56.000 I've mentioned it a few times.

01:06:57.000 I wanted to tail it.

01:06:59.000 Before we go any further with our guest, I do want to invite the listeners out there to stop procrastinating and to go to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and to get my book, 9-1-1 Dissent into Tyranny, that covers what was really behind the September 11th attacks and who stands to gain, and the evidence, the smoking gun evidence, that proves That this global shadow crime syndicate was controlling and orchestrating that to bring in the New World Order.

01:07:31.000 I also have my film, 9-1-1 Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror, Part 2 of that.

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01:07:41.000 Go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

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01:08:16.000 sweet one hundred austin texas seven eight seven zero four as patrick henry said we need the strength to face

01:08:23.000 the truth no matter how horrible Because there's a lot more security and safety in facing the horror, in facing the truth, than going along with it.

01:08:32.000 And let me just read some of the excerpts now, or the description of Race Against Evil, the secret mission of the Interpol agent who tracked the world's most sinister criminals.

01:08:44.000 And this electric narrative of suspense and intrigue delivers a first-hand account of heinous criminals and stern justice from the insider's view of David Race Bannon.

01:08:57.000 At the age of 19, the American youth is recruited by Interpol after he is caught in a deadly riot in South Korea.

01:09:03.000 Over the next 15 years, Bannon is trained to work in the darkest regions of humanity, deny society's inhibitors against Killing and embrace the agency's role as deliverer of grim justice to evildoers beyond the reach of the law.

01:09:22.000 His assignments take him from the slave houses of Thailand and the disappearance of London's most notorious child pornographer to investigating the KAL 858 bombing and tracking terrorists and criminals in the United States.

01:09:38.000 And it's an interesting book, to say the least.

01:09:40.000 And again, David Race Bannon, Ph.D., holds a doctorate degree in history, a master's degree in computer science, and high black belts in several martial arts, fluent in Korean and Japanese.

01:09:52.000 He has published several articles and books on history, martial arts, and computers.

01:09:56.000 Bannon has appeared on the Discovery Channel, A&E, and History Channel.

01:10:00.000 He left Interpol to become an educator.

01:10:02.000 And Dr. Bannon, good to have you on the show.

01:10:04.000 Appreciate you joining us.

01:10:08.000 I should say this, the blurb on the book, on the inside jacket, I didn't write it.

01:10:14.000 There's a marketing professional who put that together.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, it kind of sounds like that, doesn't it?

01:10:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:19.000 In this stunning expose, the shocking truth revealed.

01:10:22.000 Exactly.

01:10:24.000 But, you know, I have trouble, I scan news wires every day, and you win.

01:10:31.000 intelligence agencies. There's been a 60 Minutes piece about Israel, some of the biggest white 0.99

01:10:37.000 slavery rings. Saudi Arabia is the worst, bar none. I mean, you're the expert on it. 0.97

01:10:41.000 But then the average person has trouble believing this. Now, you're saying Interpol was the

01:10:46.000 good guy in all this, but then, well, just tell us the story and tell us about yourself

01:10:50.000 and what happened.

01:10:51.000 Oh, sure. And I wouldn't say Interpol was the good guy. Far from it. However, certainly

01:10:57.000 the sub-directorate of Interpol for which I worked, Archangel, our job was to identify

01:11:02.000 those who buy and sell children across international lines.

01:11:08.000 Having said that, you've mentioned previously a couple of times, very good point, for most listeners it's difficult to wrap our brains around this type of crime.

01:11:19.000 Just so that people are aware, I'm going to be tossing out some statistics.

01:11:23.000 They can go to my website, DavidBannon.net, and get all of the information in our press library that I'll be quoting.

01:11:32.000 They'll be able to read the various reports from universities, etc.

01:11:37.000 Here in the United States, some 269,000 children were smuggled into the United States for the sex trade just last year.

01:11:48.000 10% of the missing children in the United States are sold overseas at about $30,000 apiece to brothels throughout the Middle East, Thailand, and many other countries that we'll talk about as we go on.

01:12:01.000 This is a global problem.

01:12:03.000 It cannot be ignored.

01:12:04.000 These children are as young as 18 months.

01:12:07.000 In just March of this year, 28 baby girls, all under 3 months.

01:12:12.000 We're being smuggled out of China for the worldwide human traffic trade. 0.99

01:12:19.000 This problem is so huge and yet it very seldom gets the media attention it deserves.

01:12:24.000 Perhaps because the sheer horror of this atrocity.

01:12:27.000 Not only terrifies us, but generates such disbelief.

01:12:31.000 Well, Dr. Bannon, also the establishments involved in this, they use it for blackmail and they use it, it's a massive money laundering operation.

01:12:40.000 I mean, did you hear about DynCorp, actually got caught in court and civilly convicted and had to admit it, that they were involved in a 200,000 kidnapped women and children transporting them out of the Balkans?

01:12:52.000 Right.

01:12:53.000 I mean, that's $200,000 and it's in the back of Reuters a couple times.

01:12:57.000 Why?

01:12:58.000 I mean, you know, this is horrible.

01:13:01.000 So what I'm saying is, every time I track it back, it's the U.N., it's major corporations, and then there are federal agencies and other agencies that are trying to stop it, but they always get hauled off of it when they get too high up the chain.

01:13:15.000 Exactly correct.

01:13:17.000 My years with Interpol, When we were assigned to track these individuals, many times we would find within a network of these slavery rings, there were individuals highly placed, either religious or political leaders or people of old money, and very seldom were those individuals our targets.

01:13:37.000 Instead, we would target people lower down the chain.

01:13:42.000 And then it really becomes an overarching system, an intelligence system, so the elite knows how close other agencies are getting to what they're doing.

01:13:53.000 That is correct.

01:13:54.000 And I do believe that there are a lot of people in Interpol who wanted this terrible traffic to stop and were doing everything they could to stop it.

01:14:04.000 But I also know that frequently Uh, we were not assigned the cases where it was very clear an individual of significant influence was either buying and selling child pornography or actually involved in purchasing the services of child prostitutes.

01:14:23.000 Unbelievable. 0.97

01:14:24.000 Now, you would assassinate these people?

01:14:28.000 The teams with Archangel, known as Cleaners, were, in essence, assassination teams, yes.

01:14:36.000 And I guess we'll talk about that when we get back, but how did you get into this?

01:14:40.000 That's really, I guess, where the story should start.

01:14:43.000 Oh, sure.

01:14:43.000 Do we want to talk about that when we get back?

01:14:45.000 Well, we've got a few minutes right now.

01:14:46.000 I just wanted to warn you of that.

01:14:48.000 But yeah, how did this start?

01:14:50.000 Well, I started as a Mormon missionary in South Korea, of all things, and got involved in a riot in South Korea.

01:14:57.000 At the time, it was a very war-torn country.

01:14:59.000 Some 2,500 students were killed during that riot, and I was required to use lethal force to defend myself.

01:15:07.000 My actions came to the attention of an Interpol recruiter, and it was just convenient for him to have somebody who had Korean language training.

01:15:15.000 and was malleable to their propaganda techniques as many fundamentalist

01:15:20.000 christians are uh... and that's why they use the brotherhood out of d_c_ 0.78

01:15:25.000 that recruit a lot of people you know

01:15:27.000 oh sure and uh... fundamentalist christian college campuses are without

01:15:31.000 doubt the primary recruitment ground for most intelligence agencies

01:15:35.000 the reason being that if you have someone young and naive who will equate

01:15:39.000 service to god with service to country

01:15:42.000 you can get them to do anything And they're intelligent, but they compartmentalize that and are very blind to corruption around them.

01:15:50.000 Oh, the end justifies the means.

01:15:52.000 Yes, frequently so.

01:15:54.000 And the training that we were given was very arduous, daily hours of it.

01:15:59.000 Teaching us, essentially, that these people who traffic in children are evil and that we were unique in the world.

01:16:06.000 The only ones who could eliminate or eradicate these individuals.

01:16:10.000 I'm not saying that the crime is not evil in itself.

01:16:14.000 What I'm saying is that the training convinced us of such.

01:16:18.000 Well, it certainly is evil, but then out of this they create a cadre that will kill on command. 1.00

01:16:23.000 And the point is, these scum should be brought to justice and publicly executed. 0.99

01:16:29.000 And again, the over-reaching system of government control is to actually control this industry. 0.99

01:16:37.000 And just like the drug trade, they go after the small-time dealer, not the cartels.

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01:21:01.000 Alright folks, Dr. David Bannon, Ph.D., is our guest and he was a Mormon missionary in South Korea

01:21:08.000 and got recruited and the information he's bringing up here, I mean I know it all will be accurate

01:21:14.000 because we've studied this here on the show among many other corrupt things the globalists are up to.

01:21:21.000 And so they're told that you're this elite cadre, you're going to go out and you're going to kill these traffickers, which I certainly can't disagree with, but then you've got the government building this secret group of assassins, and then it's the government itself involved in all of it at a higher level.

01:21:35.000 Dr. Bannon, continuing, you get recruited into this, this subgroup of Interpol, please continue.

01:21:42.000 The subdirector within Interpol was known as Archangel and essentially Archangel was assigned to identify what are known as producers of child pornography and I'll tell you the difference.

01:21:54.000 The consumer trader is the individual that might be a fourth grade teacher that we've heard about.

01:21:59.000 He's buying and selling kiddie porn and abusing local children. 0.97

01:22:03.000 As horrible as that is, the producers are even worse. 0.98

01:22:06.000 They're the ones who buy and sell children across international lines as young as three months old Abuse and torture these children and sell the resulting images.

01:22:16.000 The technical arm of Interpol called Rosetta would identify these producers and produce photographic or eyewitness accounts that these producers were with child, which is a euphemism meaning that there was indeed proof that they were abusing and molesting and buying and selling these children.

01:22:34.000 We were then given a dossier on this individual and assigned either as a team or singly to track this individual and extract as much information as possible from them, either

01:22:46.000 through undercover work or sometimes through torture and then ultimately eliminate

01:22:51.000 them. 0.97

01:22:53.000 How many people did you torture and kill, doctor? 0.97

01:22:56.000 If I may dodge that question, I will answer this.

01:22:59.000 The head of Archangel, Commissioner Jacques Deferre, with Interpol, told me that of the some 250 Archangel cleaners, or assassins, most of them were responsible for into three digits.

01:23:15.000 Three digits?

01:23:16.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:19.000 But that's, that, that, I mean, but you look at the BBC and Reuters, I mean, Don Corr and the UN, 200,000 people flown out, women and children.

01:23:28.000 I mean, how big is this?

01:23:30.000 I mean, this is amazing.

01:23:32.000 It is of huge global proportions.

01:23:36.000 The money that is generated is into the billions of dollars.

01:23:40.000 Terrorist cells use child pornography to fund their activities because the money is easy to come by and it is so... Now, were you aware of the finders case in the 80s in DC where they go into the warehouse and the CIA runs it and it's full of all this stuff and the police get called off the case?

01:23:58.000 I heard about it.

01:23:59.000 I was not involved in it, however.

01:24:01.000 So, I mean, I'm trying to get back to this because this is...

01:24:05.000 From your years in this fighting, as you said, a lot of it was low-level people that you were eliminating.

01:24:12.000 Nice word for it.

01:24:13.000 But then you talked about the connections higher up.

01:24:18.000 I mean, what really runs this?

01:24:20.000 What does it lead back to?

01:24:22.000 Well, ultimately it comes down to money, as almost all of these pernicious rings do.

01:24:28.000 The producers themselves had to have customers.

01:24:32.000 When we were able to extract information from the producers frequently they would name more powerful people who were funding their activities and who were purchasing much of the material as well as purchasing the children themselves.

01:24:46.000 Some of the names that we were given we would deliver to our commissioner and never hear again and they were names of people that are infamous in the world for their Either political, monetary, or religious influence.

01:25:03.000 Wow, yeah, that's just incredible to see this going on.

01:25:11.000 What happened on the first assassination mission you went on?

01:25:17.000 At the time, Romania was communist, and I was assigned to track an individual who had kidnapped a six-year-old boy from a London orphanage.

01:25:26.000 And after a short stop in France, he had taken the child to communist Romania where child prostitution was legal. 0.55

01:25:34.000 He was then selling the child in prostitution, recording images and selling those, and had made a deal to sell the child to a brothel for the rest of the child's life in Thailand.

01:25:45.000 So this communist state was all for this?

01:25:48.000 Remarkably so.

01:25:50.000 The Communist Romania at the time, it was against the law to have abortions.

01:25:57.000 Everyone was encouraged to have six children.

01:26:01.000 And the idea being that the more they increased their workforce, the more they would be an influence in the world.

01:26:06.000 What ultimately happened, of course, is there were too many children, and when everyone is desperately poor, And there's too many children.

01:26:13.000 There are those who will take advantage.

01:26:14.000 Yeah, that was a BBC News article, and this is admitted, it's not a conspiracy theory, where they addict the kids to opium to make them work.

01:26:21.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:26:22.000 Oh, yes.

01:26:23.000 And they went in and shot them vinegar.

01:26:24.000 It's not even hidden, so... I mean, it's just the world is so evil, and we're so naive here in America.

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01:27:38.000 Dr. David Bannon when he was 19 was a missionary, Christian missionary over in

01:27:44.000 South Korea and got recruited in to a sub-directorate of Interpol called Archangel. 0.98

01:27:52.000 And they would go around killing the, I guess, lower-mid-level scumbags or literal demons. 0.90

01:28:04.000 And we're also going to go to some of your calls here in just a few minutes. 0.96

01:28:07.000 I don't know where to You know, where to go with this?

01:28:09.000 I've got so many questions, Dr. Bannon.

01:28:13.000 You'd go out and assassinate these people, and then later you discovered that people higher up weren't being gone after?

01:28:20.000 Can you break that down for us?

01:28:22.000 Oh, sure.

01:28:23.000 I had mentioned earlier that the technical arm of the sub-directorate within Interpol, known as Rosetta, would identify these producers and hand us dossiers.

01:28:33.000 We then were encouraged to infiltrate the network just basically doing standard undercover work.

01:28:39.000 We would develop a complete legend or cover story and get as much information as possible before we ultimately eliminated our target, sometimes using torture if necessary.

01:28:52.000 While we were doing this, we often would uncover many names within the network that were not known to us, just low-level producers again all across the world, and occasionally a name would pop up that was immediately recognizable, or upon further research we could see was highly placed within a government, within a religious organization, or some major global corporation.

01:29:15.000 Were you allowed to go after those people?

01:29:17.000 Not once.

01:29:20.000 That's amazing.

01:29:21.000 So in a way, again, it was an intelligence bureau for those in the establishment that were doing this to insulate themselves.

01:29:28.000 And just talking around the warehouse where we trained at Archangel, talking with some of our supervisors, etc., we do know that there were occasionally times when these individuals were blackmailed with the information that we had uncovered to suit the current agenda of Interpol.

01:29:49.000 Now, Just an average, you know, committing hundreds of assassinations, on average assassination, how would that play out?

01:29:59.000 Well, each assassination team, a team of cleaners, usually was three or four individuals.

01:30:04.000 Sometimes we were sent out singly or in teams.

01:30:08.000 The teams had their own strengths and weaknesses.

01:30:11.000 My particular forte was what's known as close wet work, that is, Close quarter combat using hands or bladed weapons, quiet kills.

01:30:20.000 So walking up and stabbing somebody in the neck or head?

01:30:24.000 Yes. 0.92

01:30:25.000 Basic special forces type stuff?

01:30:27.000 Yes, yes, absolutely.

01:30:29.000 And the methods that we used were designed to eliminate the person quickly and quietly.

01:30:35.000 There were other methods used of course.

01:30:38.000 Poisoning, shootings.

01:30:42.000 Ever sabotage vehicles or was that not sure enough?

01:30:45.000 That is definitely not sure enough, and again we frequently wanted to isolate the individual so that we could extract as much information as possible.

01:30:54.000 So basically you'd be waiting in their apartment or house at night, have somebody in a car surveilling if they were alone, and then have somebody block the hallway once they go in the room and then torture them there?

01:31:04.000 Frequently that happened.

01:31:06.000 What happens with many of these producers is they are collectors.

01:31:09.000 They keep a huge number, sometimes tens of thousands of images of child pornography In a secret location in their home, either in the basement or in a secret room.

01:31:19.000 It's very common among this type of individual.

01:31:23.000 We were able to then use that room where they kept their secret stash and where they frequently molested children to return the favor and torture them for information.

01:31:36.000 So you would use that secure location.

01:31:38.000 There was a story out of Belgium and that was on the BBC television.

01:31:43.000 I saw it.

01:31:44.000 Mark Petro.

01:31:46.000 Yeah, and hundreds of thousands protested and demonstrated because they found the dead kids in his torture chamber, and it led back to government officials, so they kind of killed the investigation.

01:31:55.000 Can you speak to that case?

01:31:56.000 Absolutely.

01:31:57.000 As a matter of fact, I was involved.

01:31:59.000 He was known as the Belgian Beast, and of the many, many children that he abused and individuals that he killed, The most notorious, perhaps one that got most press, were the two eight-year-old girls that were kept in his locked room in the basement for three weeks until they ultimately were starved to death.

01:32:22.000 Belgian Beast is the appropriate term, and when he was arrested and then released, then arrested again, all of this came to international attention.

01:32:30.000 But what many of the listeners may not be aware of is that there was a vast network connected to Detro that he was able to sell these images through and that's where the funding came, especially for his defense fund.

01:32:44.000 Senator John DeCamp, are you familiar with the Franklin cover-up story?

01:32:49.000 Please explain.

01:32:50.000 Well, they had gone to the savings and loan in Lincoln, Nebraska and found a bunch of this stuff with the top Republican Party people in the state.

01:33:02.000 And he, you know, was one of the former top people on the state senate.

01:33:07.000 He was actually hired to disprove all this.

01:33:09.000 He found it was true. 0.96

01:33:10.000 A bunch of his private investigators got assassinated.

01:33:12.000 Their planes blew up, stuff like that.

01:33:14.000 He got diaries, all this stuff, police reports.

01:33:17.000 It led back to a place called, well, a place where they have a big stone owl and do rituals in northern California, what the children described.

01:33:24.000 Then the police swooped in, the FBI swooped in, their national security grabbed all the stuff, but he did confirm that.

01:33:30.000 And it was this giant network, and it just, again, whether it's Belgium, or Norway, or France, or England, or Germany, it always leads back.

01:33:40.000 There was a story in Reuters a couple weeks ago about this big top German judge who had the slave pens with kids.

01:33:47.000 She got caught.

01:33:48.000 They were killing kids.

01:33:50.000 I mean, what is going on?

01:33:50.000 Right.

01:33:52.000 Do these people run things or something?

01:33:55.000 Well, that's an excellent question, and one that I frequently wrestled with.

01:34:00.000 We found that the global traffic was so huge, and no matter how much we tried to combat it, there was always more.

01:34:07.000 And once you have people with influence and money involved in a particular traffic, they're going to protect their interests.

01:34:15.000 What we found with the Belgian Beast case is that Of the very large network, only 14 of the other members of the network were targeted by Archangel for elimination.

01:34:27.000 All of the others in this vast network were left alone.

01:34:31.000 Well, that's incredible.

01:34:34.000 Unbelievable. 0.99

01:34:35.000 Dr. Ray Spannin again, for those just tuned in, just recap about yourself and Your experience inside because I mean look I would have no problem myself as a Christian myself I can imagine you know being 19 in college then recruited to go out to see the evidence to kill these people I mean that is totally wholesome and good to to to to execute trash

01:34:58.000 The problem is, is that then you get into the government creating this precedent to use it against people who aren't guilty.

01:35:05.000 And obviously, if they would have brought this out in the open, they could have been tried.

01:35:08.000 A jury of their peers would have given them the death penalty.

01:35:11.000 But again, you have people high up in society who wouldn't have allowed that to happen.

01:35:15.000 And then here you are, time and time again, finding out this is being used to blackmail public officials and being used at higher levels.

01:35:22.000 So really just being a backdoor intelligence community to have a grasp on what was going on in their own industry.

01:35:29.000 How many years did this go on?

01:35:30.000 How long were you involved in this, in killing these demons?

01:35:34.000 And then, how did you wrestle with the torture part, though, to extract the information?

01:35:40.000 And then, why did you finally get out, and what happened when you tried to get out?

01:35:46.000 Well, that's a whole long question.

01:35:48.000 First, the number of years, about 18 years.

01:35:50.000 My last assignment was in 1999.

01:35:54.000 My primary work, where it was just day in and day out, every day working for Archangel, was about four years, however, in the 1980s.

01:36:04.000 After that, I was just used on occasional assignments because so many of the cleaners suffered from burnout, and certainly I did.

01:36:12.000 The dull, throbbing horror of taking another person's life and of using torture techniques

01:36:20.000 to extract information, of course, plays heavily on one's soul and is very difficult to deal

01:36:26.000 with.

01:36:27.000 You had asked how did I address it.

01:36:29.000 Frequently, these individuals, we would either catch them with child or we would catch them

01:36:34.000 surrounded by video or photographic images of this individual abusing children.

01:36:42.000 Seeing those images, it was not too difficult then to use the methods in which I was trained

01:36:49.000 to extract the information.

01:36:50.000 Yeah, you're literally just sending a demon back to hell.

01:36:54.000 Certainly, I think it is arguable, and I felt very strongly at the time, that of all human evils, the abuse of very young children must be on the top of the list.

01:37:03.000 Well, Joseph Mengele did it in Germany, and then was wrought and protected by the CIA.

01:37:11.000 That's admitted History Channel stuff.

01:37:13.000 We have the government doing hundreds of thousands of young girls in eugenics programs being sterilized, being practiced on by medical experiments, by doctors, the retarded children being radiated, the parents being told it was a treatment, they radiate and they die hours later. 0.99

01:37:34.000 Again, there's just so much of this.

01:37:35.000 It's almost institutionalized in some of the other forms that aren't sexual.

01:37:42.000 Just using children coldly as medical experiments.

01:37:48.000 I don't understand.

01:37:50.000 Again, I can't even begin to understand how this even happens.

01:37:53.000 It goes so counter to my programming that I don't even... I mean, I see the reports.

01:37:59.000 I know what's going on.

01:38:00.000 I don't know.

01:38:02.000 And that's the nature of atrocity, Alex, is that it is so grotesque and so huge, it's difficult for us to wrap our brains around it.

01:38:11.000 Stalin said, when one person dies, it's a tragedy, but when 10,000 die, it's a statistic.

01:38:16.000 Oh, exactly.

01:38:17.000 And I think if someone had not grown up in history class and had never heard of the Holocaust, to be told those numbers, They wouldn't believe it.

01:38:27.000 They would resist.

01:38:28.000 Or that Stalin killed 50 million people.

01:38:30.000 They would resist that.

01:38:30.000 Right.

01:38:32.000 And it's exactly what happens with the child sex trade. 1.00

01:38:36.000 Even in Thailand right now, you spoke of institutionalization.

01:38:40.000 In Thailand, it's institutionalized and legal so that anyone can go on the internet and sign up for a child sex tour in that country.

01:38:49.000 I have to ask this question.

01:38:51.000 If they're looking for a war, Uh, and they need an idea for a war this week.

01:38:56.000 Perhaps protecting innocent children might come on top of the list.

01:39:00.000 You know, I agree.

01:39:01.000 I mean, look, I... Kim Jong-il lives in a seven-story pleasure palace.

01:39:05.000 He has kidnapped, you know, whole jets full of women and had them take it to his country and then apologized to Japan.

01:39:13.000 I'm sorry I killed the people I kidnapped.

01:39:16.000 That was just a few months ago in Time Magazine.

01:39:18.000 Right.

01:39:18.000 You know, sure, nuke him, okay?

01:39:21.000 But the point is they're just going to put some other dictatorship in there.

01:39:23.000 But yeah, Thailand. 0.54

01:39:25.000 I mean, this is a pit of evil.

01:39:29.000 What about Saudi Arabia? 0.96

01:39:31.000 Oh, right.

01:39:32.000 Right.

01:39:33.000 I mean, there was an article where they You know, where the jets land just full of this stuff.

01:39:42.000 And there are many other countries where it's either legal or half legal or illegal, but it's a wink and a nod.

01:39:49.000 China, it's certainly a wink and a nod. 0.92

01:39:51.000 In Japan, it's legal to own reproductions and all of this child pornography, but in theory, illegal to purchase a child prostitute, although in Tokyo's Well, it's just across the board. 0.95

01:40:03.000 There's all these massive evils and you've got naive Americans. 0.75

01:40:05.000 to buy a child prostitutes as in my undercover assignments I often saw. 0.96

01:40:12.000 All across the world, including in our own United States, this problem looms and yet

01:40:18.000 seems to be ignored by those in power.

01:40:22.000 Well it's just across the board.

01:40:23.000 There's all these massive evils and you've got naive Americans.

01:40:26.000 I mean, that's why this system gets away with all this because people are so naive.

01:40:31.000 We're living in our own little world with our green yards and our, you know, SUVs and season tickets.

01:40:42.000 And I don't want to believe this, but just scanning news wires every day, I just run into it in my house.

01:40:47.000 It's everywhere.

01:40:48.000 Sure, it's everywhere.

01:40:50.000 And as you mentioned, this naive tendency to disbelieve is in a small way responsible for the perpetuation of this atrocity.

01:40:59.000 And until we, as citizens of the world, band together to stop it, it will continue.

01:41:05.000 But then we see it being misdirected many times by the perpetrators in government, where then a family just takes a picture of their 8-month-old baby playing in the in the backyard swimming pool and then the

01:41:23.000 the clerk at the drugstore calls the police. You know you can have

01:41:27.000 massive stuff going on that's real and that's okay and then you have... how does that feed

01:41:33.000 into this?

01:41:34.000 Oh well I think that there's a mania that's caused and it's easier to feed that mania

01:41:43.000 and therefore satisfy individuals and satisfy the public outcry

01:41:49.000 without actually doing anything.

01:41:52.000 So it's another sub-level of what you were doing, killing low-level people instead of high-level people.

01:41:57.000 Right, right.

01:41:58.000 And the problem is so much more huge than that and so grotesque.

01:42:05.000 People who read my book probably will find it, although very interesting and a necessary book, Also very disturbing because the reality of how individuals torture children as young as 18 months and buy and sell them to others for the same sexual purposes is so grotesque.

01:42:27.000 And the fact that it has not come out as much as it should.

01:42:30.000 It's just the occasional news wire.

01:42:32.000 There was a big report in Italy about stuff in Russia abusing and killing male toddlers.

01:42:38.000 Right.

01:42:40.000 And then it led back to a Hollywood group and the story got killed and the Italian news producers that did the story got fired.

01:42:47.000 Right.

01:42:47.000 Did you hear about that last year?

01:42:49.000 I remember reading it in a sum-up in a magazine, yes.

01:42:57.000 I just wish there was a new world to go to, you know, like they did in 1776 or 1650s or whatever.

01:42:57.000 I don't know.

01:43:05.000 I mean, I wish we could just get away from it, but you can't.

01:43:09.000 How do you deal with it?

01:43:11.000 And the archangel answer, and I'm not saying this is the correct answer, because the reason I wrote the book was to increase awareness of this problem and also to let people know of the activities of organizations like Interpol.

01:43:25.000 Interpol is the world's second largest international organization, right next to the UN.

01:43:30.000 It has 180 plus member countries.

01:43:32.000 You never hear about it.

01:43:34.000 Right, and you never hear about it, which is a testament to their effectiveness as an intelligence agency.

01:43:39.000 Are they mad at you for reporting on this?

01:43:41.000 They are furious.

01:43:45.000 Just over the last two months, culminating on May the 10th, there has been a lot of tension between Interpol officers sent to Encourage an affidavit from me that essentially, if I sign this affidavit, it would say that everything in the book is false.

01:44:03.000 And then they would use that affidavit to stop the publication of the book.

01:44:07.000 A number of warring factions within Interpol and without came to my aid.

01:44:13.000 And ultimately, my supervisor would... You know, that's the secret here, is good men and women standing up in government, saying no to all the corruption, all the different facets of it, and the facet you're involved in, and saying no to this.

01:44:26.000 We're not going along with it and we're not gonna, you know, carry this out anymore.

01:44:30.000 Right.

01:44:31.000 And from surprising locations, the Vice President of Interpol in Asia came to my aid, emphatically condemning that they were trying to stop the publication of this book.

01:44:42.000 Alright, now I interrupted you.

01:44:43.000 I wanted to talk about what the solutions are, and you were saying what Archangel's solution was.

01:44:46.000 We'll talk about that.

01:44:47.000 We'll take a few calls when we get back with Dr. Ray Spannin.

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01:48:00.000 It's horrible, it's upsetting, it's depressing.

01:48:13.000 But as Patrick Henry said, if we don't face the truth, we'll be destroyed.

01:48:17.000 And folks, on InfoWars.com, on PrisonPlanet.com, I got AP, Reuters, BBC, UPI.

01:48:22.000 With DynCorp and the UN, 200,000 women and children in one year alone.

01:48:31.000 They always catch UN heads and people in New York with their own sex slaves in back rooms.

01:48:36.000 I mean, this is real, folks. 0.99

01:48:38.000 Houston had a big bust.

01:48:40.000 The good cops got involved and busted it. 0.96

01:48:41.000 A lot of times the low-level folks bust something they weren't supposed to with a bunch of Mexican sex slaves, women and children. 1.00

01:48:48.000 And yeah, when you've got the evidence of this, show it to a jury, give them all the death penalty. 0.99

01:48:53.000 and give them one appeal and when that's over, execute them. 0.98

01:48:56.000 That's the danger though, going out and just executing these people without a trial 0.98

01:49:00.000 and then doing this because, you know, then that legitimizes what the North Vietnamese did to our pilots.

01:49:06.000 We cannot become the evil to fight the evil and then it allows the secrecy to go on.

01:49:12.000 Uh, and I was just talking to Dr. Bannon.

01:49:15.000 He was saying that it did look like that the higher reps at Interpol were there to cover this up.

01:49:20.000 Do you, uh, would you like to elaborate on that, doctor?

01:49:23.000 Then we'll go to some calls.

01:49:24.000 Oh, well, I just got the impression over a number of years that Archangel's solution of eliminating these producers who were skating around international laws and using their power brokers of influence to escape prosecution, those targets could be identified, but anyone higher up, it seemed to me they were often being coddled and protected.

01:49:48.000 And I did not believe that the Interpol upper echelon was aggressively pursuing a strategy that would eliminate... And you know, and you said that you had the info they were using to blackmail.

01:49:59.000 Now, you talk about Thailand, a military invasion, I'm all for it. 1.00

01:50:05.000 I mean, that's pure evil.

01:50:06.000 I mean, and in ten minutes Bush could get the evidence of what he needed to go into Thailand, but they don't even have sanctions on Thailand.

01:50:13.000 We should have sanctions on them, shouldn't we? 0.95

01:50:15.000 Not even sanctions.

01:50:17.000 It amazes me that the things that we seem to worry about and obsess over and yet here are literally thousands of innocent children and I've been in Thailand on a number of assignments and we saw parents with children as young as two years old walking up to brothels to sell them into slavery.

01:50:35.000 This should not be allowed by any of the... Those parents should have their heads blown off and the child should be given to adoption. 0.99

01:50:43.000 And you see, here I am, hearing that, I want to kill them. 1.00

01:50:46.000 I mean, I understand how you could do this. 0.97

01:50:49.000 And by the way, we were mentioning that in the book there's a lot of information that those who are in the know will immediately recognize as accurate.

01:50:57.000 Also, people who go to my website, DavidBannon.net, can go to the Press Library, where there are hundreds of pages of documentation to support this terrible, terrible... How do folks get the properly named book, Race Against Evil?

01:51:15.000 Oh, they can pick it up through my website, and if they order it through there, we'll donate $1 to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children for every book they purchase.

01:51:26.000 They can get it at any of their local bookstores as well.

01:51:30.000 All right.

01:51:31.000 We're going to break here in a second.

01:51:32.000 You're going to stay with us until the next hour or so.

01:51:34.000 I appreciate that, Donovan.

01:51:37.000 Who's up first, Mark?

01:51:38.000 You were telling me.

01:51:39.000 We'll go ahead and go to one caller now.

01:51:41.000 Who?

01:51:42.000 Irving in Colorado.

01:51:44.000 You're on the air.

01:51:44.000 Go ahead, Irving.

01:51:46.000 Yes, I wanted to know if Dr. Bannon could shed any light on the story in Massachusetts in 1980 in Watertown, Massachusetts, the arson ring and the murder ring for hire and the child sex for hire.

01:52:02.000 It was discovered that police officials, retired and active clergy... That was actually in the newspaper.

01:52:10.000 Any comments to that, Dr. Bannon?

01:52:12.000 I am not familiar with that case.

01:52:15.000 Okay, this goes back, like I said, to the 1980s.

01:52:18.000 And it was basically just dropped.

01:52:20.000 No one was ever persecuted, brought to trial, or anything.

01:52:23.000 And I wanted to know if it was connected to the Ferraros.

01:52:26.000 Geraldine Ferraro's husband, who was a foreign kingpin on the East Coast.

01:52:30.000 I don't know about that.

01:52:31.000 I remember the news articles saying something about them.

01:52:35.000 We'll talk about it in the... I don't like to make unsubstantiated comments here, and we have enough stuff that's out in the open.

01:52:41.000 Third hour coming up, and I got a bunch of news about war with North Korea, and Iran, and Syria, and the gun grabbing by the neocons trying to disarm us, and just everything else.

01:52:51.000 We'll be right back with the third hour with our guest, your calls.

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01:53:32.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:53:36.000 Alright, we're talking about a horrible subject, but we don't talk about the pure wickedness, the abuse of kidnapped women and children that is in the millions every year.

01:53:49.000 Just out of Eastern Europe alone, according to the U.N.' 's own numbers, will continue.

01:53:54.000 It is massive.

01:53:56.000 Of course, the New American Magazine a few years ago published the video stills of U.N.

01:54:00.000 peacekeepers burning small children over fires, cutting their heads off.

01:54:06.000 They have art exposés on Channel 4, World of Wonder, a few months ago, where they eat dead babies on TV.

01:54:13.000 So they're eating babies on TV and watching it as an art display on British national TV.

01:54:18.000 So, I mean, this stuff's gotten so out in the open, it's everywhere now, and we cannot ignore it.

01:54:23.000 Dr. David Race Bannon, PhD, is our guest.

01:54:27.000 He was a assassin or cleaner for Interpol, killing low-level individuals and then collecting the data and using it at higher-up levels for blackmail against government officials.

01:54:38.000 This is amazing stuff.

01:54:40.000 He has a lot of courage to go public with this.

01:54:42.000 We're taking calls.

01:54:43.000 We'll talk to now Will.

01:54:45.000 Will, where are you calling from, sir?

01:54:49.000 In the country, Will.

01:54:50.000 Hello, sir.

01:54:50.000 Yes, where are you calling from?

01:54:51.000 Yeah, I'm in Norfolk, Virginia.

01:54:53.000 Okay, you're on the air with our guest.

01:54:55.000 Go ahead.

01:54:55.000 Yes, sir.

01:54:55.000 Mr. Bannon, thank you for being on the program there, and thank you, Alex, for having him on.

01:55:00.000 I would also urge you to look into John DeCant's book, The Franklin Cover-Up.

01:55:05.000 a senator to camp and by the way a Virginia TV station accused him of being a liar he sued them

01:55:10.000 and won over a million dollars he has the names and of course it mentions a place in northern

01:55:15.000 California where world leaders meet and uh where they uh well i'm not going to get into it here on

01:55:20.000 air yeah it sounds to me like you're not just talking about the local pervert in his a trench

01:55:25.000 coat but some some really high finances involved in this and a lot of political power to protect it

01:55:33.000 i'm wondering if you might have been used simply to intimidate the competition

01:55:38.000 while the the real super powers involved in this you just carry on their business and i'm wondering

01:55:44.000 would you have an idea of who in the various governments might

01:55:49.000 Bye.

01:55:50.000 I have an interest in both these things.

01:55:52.000 Well, the caller, obviously, Doctor, you're picking up on this.

01:55:55.000 He's saying, just like the drug war, they go after the small-time dealer, but not the cartel leader who laundered his money through the big banks.

01:56:03.000 Right, and certainly that is a very real part of this traffic, and there's been enough media coverage to support that.

01:56:12.000 I should say this, it's easier, I think, for a lot of people to Imagine a child molester to be the creepy guy standing on the street corner.

01:56:25.000 It's much more difficult to recognize that it is that the perpetrators are men and women of great influence in societies all across the world.

01:56:35.000 And there is a lot of money involved.

01:56:37.000 It's all about the exercise of power. 0.93

01:56:38.000 These people exercise power, and they're sickos, and they're sadistic, and look, Nero did it, the Aztecs did it. 0.99

01:56:46.000 Every time we look back in history, this is an elite practice, is it not, Doctor? 0.87

01:56:51.000 It is very much so, and my PhD is in Asian history from Seoul National University, by the way, and I can assure you that all throughout Asian history, as well as Western history, The elite have pursued this grotesque and dark fetish. 0.96

01:57:07.000 There you go, ladies and gentlemen.

01:57:09.000 That's the new world order for you. 1.00

01:57:10.000 Pure trash. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Pure evil. 0.99

01:57:13.000 Anything else, Will?

01:57:14.000 No, that's all.

01:57:15.000 More power to you.

01:57:16.000 Thank you, Will.

01:57:17.000 There you go.

01:57:17.000 Oh, man.

01:57:19.000 You know what, listeners?

01:57:19.000 You kept telling me to have this guy on.

01:57:21.000 What he's saying is accurate, unfortunately.

01:57:23.000 It's horrible.

01:57:25.000 I just, it's horrible.

01:57:27.000 Let's, and we have to talk about it.

01:57:31.000 Let's, well, we gotta break.

01:57:32.000 We'll come back and talk to Dan, Wesley, John, and others.

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02:01:43.000 Our guest is Dr. David Bannon.

02:01:45.000 His website is DavidBannon.net or you can simply go to Infowars.com where we post who our guests are.

02:01:51.000 We just did a little bit later update today at about 1230 because we put up a lot of news stories today.

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02:02:00.000 You can link through to DavidBannon.net if you forget the website or don't have the spelling.

02:02:07.000 But it's DavidBannon.net.

02:02:10.000 The book, Race Against Evil.

02:02:13.000 And Dr. Bannon, I didn't bring my book to the studio today with me that I got last week.

02:02:19.000 Who publishes your book?

02:02:20.000 New Horizon Press.

02:02:21.000 They're an imprint of Penguin Publishing.

02:02:24.000 Wow, so a big publisher, was it?

02:02:26.000 And folks, we interview a lot of folks who publish books, but they don't just let you write a book like this without checking it out.

02:02:40.000 It's amazing, and reading the book, unfortunately, it looks accurate to me.

02:02:46.000 I wish it Wasn't the case.

02:02:48.000 I wish that the former Defense Secretary wasn't saying that we're quote, going to get nuked in the next year.

02:02:54.000 That's the Washington Post.

02:02:55.000 I mean, this is, it's like somebody put us into an alternate reality or shifted something.

02:03:03.000 Or is it just that we're more aware of it now, Dr. Bannon?

02:03:07.000 I do think that there has been a lot of work done by many individuals, particularly Andrew Vax, who's been a very vocal child advocate.

02:03:17.000 And so I think it is a credit to humanity that in the past 20 years, there's been much more awareness of this problem.

02:03:24.000 It's existed, certainly, for centuries.

02:03:27.000 So it's an old institutionalized system.

02:03:30.000 We keep going back to that.

02:03:30.000 But I mean, you know, as a PhD, as someone who studied history, just all the overall craziness.

02:03:37.000 The going to war with North Korea, Patriot Act 1 and 2, the borders are still wide open.

02:03:44.000 Your analysis of the basic craziness of the world today?

02:03:48.000 Oh, I confess that there's just nothing new in the world.

02:03:53.000 The craziness is a continuation.

02:03:56.000 I think that we have much more information than we've ever had and certainly we can thank shows like yours, Alex, for that.

02:04:00.000 So that's really it?

02:04:01.000 You think that it's... we're just more aware of it?

02:04:04.000 Yes, very much so.

02:04:06.000 To give you just a North Korea idea, I myself was imprisoned in a slave labor camp in North Korea when I was captured during an Interpol assignment.

02:04:17.000 And my PhD is in Asian History from Seoul National University, so I like to pretend I know a lot about this country.

02:04:24.000 I can assure you that North Korea has been working on weapons of mass destruction programs, biological, chemical weapons, for 20 years. 0.88

02:04:32.000 Well, I've got articles 8 years old where they were testing nukes.

02:04:36.000 This whole thing of you've got to attack them before they get nukes is a joke.

02:04:39.000 Oh, it is.

02:04:40.000 It is.

02:04:41.000 It's a huge joke, and everyone on the inside has known this.

02:04:45.000 It may be that it's now just more politically convenient... I've got to hear about this, Dr. Bannon.

02:04:50.000 You're telling me... So you got captured in this North Korean camp.

02:04:54.000 How did you get out?

02:04:55.000 What was that like?

02:04:55.000 Because we just read the Wall Street Journal article where they... where when the people starve to death, they hang out their carcasses and sell the meat.

02:05:03.000 That is correct.

02:05:04.000 And there are many horrendous torture methods involved.

02:05:08.000 I was only there for a little under a week until I was traded back to South Korea in what's known as a spy swap.

02:05:18.000 That is, there was a known mole in the South Korean Secret Service.

02:05:23.000 He was actually a North Korean double agent.

02:05:25.000 He had been captured and was traded back for me.

02:05:28.000 I certainly couldn't have escaped on that.

02:05:30.000 I bet you thank God for that one.

02:05:32.000 What's that?

02:05:33.000 I bet you thank God that you got out of there.

02:05:35.000 Oh, I thank God and all of my friends with Interpol and the Korean Secret Service who came to my aid.

02:05:40.000 Otherwise, I'd still be there if not dead. 0.98

02:05:43.000 So the Communists, for a long time across the board, have been funding themselves, not just with drugs, but with the other garbage? 0.99

02:05:52.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.96

02:05:55.000 Any terrorist cell is going to use whatever means necessary to fund its activities.

02:06:01.000 I was involved in a joint operation with Interpol and the counter-terrorist French DST agency Uh, where we approached a cell of North Korean terrorists who were using child pornography and buying and selling children to fund their activities, including a bombing of the Paris Embassy.

02:06:20.000 Uh, during that confrontation, my, uh, fiancee, Sude Rimbaud, who was a, uh, an officer with the DST, was killed protecting the lives of others by a North Korean terrorist.

02:06:34.000 And that's what ultimately led to my willingly embracing the role that we played of eliminating these individuals.

02:06:43.000 And she died in your arms?

02:06:45.000 Yes, she did.

02:06:46.000 She died there on the street, and after she was shot, it was really just a moment, just one or two minutes before she died.

02:06:52.000 That's just amazing, and this is all on the record, folks.

02:06:58.000 Just incredible.

02:06:59.000 Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.

02:07:00.000 Dan, you're on the air.

02:07:01.000 Go ahead.

02:07:01.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:07:04.000 The last caller kind of touched on what I was going to say, but the fact that you couldn't pursue the higher-ups, isn't this like the equivalent of being controlled by the same kind of perverts you were chasing?

02:07:17.000 An excellent question, and certainly as time went on, as I matured as an individual and learned more about the entire operations of the organization for which I worked, I realized that we were not necessarily a solution, but really just a duct tape job.

02:07:34.000 And that was one of the many reasons I ultimately left Interpol.

02:07:37.000 Yeah, I'm glad to hear that.

02:07:40.000 It is very hypocritical in the long run. 0.91

02:07:43.000 And it's so much like corruption is.

02:07:45.000 It's like, do as I say, don't do as I do.

02:07:48.000 Right, right.

02:07:49.000 Okay, well thank you.

02:07:50.000 Absolutely, well it's like that everywhere.

02:07:52.000 I mean, you have the British and the U.S.

02:07:54.000 government are the real proliferators of the reactors, of the uranium, of the missile parts, and then they'll ignore all that when they've got evidence of weapons of mass destruction, because they've got the receipt, and they'll just make something up to legitimize what they're doing.

02:08:10.000 It's incredible.

02:08:13.000 Unbelievable.

02:08:14.000 Let's talk to Wesley in Tennessee.

02:08:17.000 Wesley, you're on the air with our guest, Dr. Bannon.

02:08:19.000 Go ahead.

02:08:20.000 Hi, Dr. Bannon.

02:08:21.000 How are you today, Alex?

02:08:23.000 I guess I'm doing all right.

02:08:25.000 Alex, you mentioned something before about if we take out guys like this, that we're not any better than the Vietnamese that shot American pilots, but I beg to correct you on that. 0.99

02:08:40.000 We were the good guys.

02:08:43.000 When you do something like that, it's an irreversible decision.

02:08:49.000 Hold on, hold on, Leslie. 0.96

02:08:54.000 I've said that the emotions I have at hearing Dr. Bannon talk about parents selling their kids into this, is that my emotion is, blow their heads off.

02:09:06.000 But, when you go down that road then, it's rid of the bill of rights and constitution which then

02:09:13.000 allows the government to use those

02:09:15.000 type of uh... secret execution powers on everybody and the way government works

02:09:19.000 is they will and then you have the evidence of the government high up

02:09:23.000 involved in this protecting the high-level individuals and and what i was saying is is that torture

02:09:30.000 uh... when you start down that road of torture torture then I guess you have to say okay then I guess the

02:09:35.000 North Vietnamese were okay I mean what are you getting at here I'm trying to 1.00

02:09:38.000 understand I'm sorry I stand corrected that I misunderstood you I wanted to say

02:09:42.000 I'm the guy that got yanked out of my car and then hit a nine millimeter Caltech

02:09:49.000 stole one out of It's been a long time since I talked to you.

02:09:53.000 You called about a year ago and said you were there in Tennessee, you're a WBCR listener, and it was in the paper, the Army was out just running checkpoints, this was before 9-1-1, and they jerked you out of your car and you're in a wheelchair and roughed you up a bit and stole your gun.

02:10:09.000 Well, you'd be proud of me.

02:10:10.000 I got stopped at a road check on the 4th of July and I absolutely refused to To display my license that I refused to let anybody search my car and I told them if they wanted to search it, they were going to have to come back with a warrant from a, signed and sealed from a judge.

02:10:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:10:29.000 After about a half an hour of standing around they just finally got tired of it and told me to get in my car and go.

02:10:34.000 Exactly, but on the subject at hand here, any comments, Wesley?

02:10:42.000 I just wanted to say that In your own local neighborhood, Alex, if you knew of somebody that was engaged in child pornography, and you didn't have a shadow of a doubt of the guilt of the perpetrator, how would you suggest people handle something like that?

02:11:05.000 I don't know.

02:11:06.000 I guess call the police, but then nothing will probably happen to them.

02:11:11.000 I don't know.

02:11:11.000 Dr. Bannon, what would you do?

02:11:13.000 Oh, I hope to never be faced with that again, although I must say this, the years of Archangel training and experience have a heavy toll in that even now when I go to church, I find myself immediately scanning for the individuals whose behavior betrays their dark fetish.

02:11:36.000 I can say this, however, there are indeed many decent working FBI officers in the country who are working with the Innocent Images Program and the Crimes Against Children Programs who can be contacted directly through the FBI's website.

02:11:53.000 And also I would add to this that that on the wider scale uh... dealing with this uh... corruption uh... that uh... most people in the government are are not involved in this but that statistically the number one group when I read the newspaper Dr. Bennington said if I'm right or wrong that it's the child counselor it's the cps worker uh... it's the truancy officer I know they bust a lot of them here in Austin

02:12:25.000 Don't these predators try to get into positions of power over children or the Boy Scout leader?

02:12:32.000 I mean, isn't that who you've got to watch?

02:12:34.000 Very much so, and well said, Alex.

02:12:37.000 It fits the profile.

02:12:39.000 It should never surprise us when we learn that a Sunday school teacher, a daycare worker, a truancy officer, guidance counselor, high school teacher, that these individuals are molesting children because part of the profile, as horrible as it sounds, is that they truly enjoy and love children. 0.53

02:12:56.000 The dark evil part, of course, is that they also want to have sex with them and they are attracted to that profession.

02:13:04.000 And then, there are the people running the CPS, taking your kids, and Time Magazine reported, they're five times more likely to abuse your child than a parent is.

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02:17:50.000 Let's go ahead and go to the calls quickly.

02:17:53.000 John in Tennessee, or is it Texas?

02:17:55.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

02:17:57.000 Yes, are you aware of the Stanley Hilton class action against Bush Jr.

02:18:02.000 for perping the 9-1-1 massacre and that CIA Director Bush Sr.

02:18:07.000 protected the snuffed kiddie porn at the Franklin SNL cover-up in Bohemian Grove where Alex infiltrated with hidden video?

02:18:16.000 is is that the ban on uh... sir

02:18:20.000 were you aware of uh... the bohemian groves stolen bones and uh...

02:18:24.000 again though the earlier he said he was aware of the franklin cover-up senator

02:18:27.000 de kamps information uh... i don't know how to make it clear

02:18:32.000 it was three years ago in two days i snuck into bohemian grove there wasn't

02:18:35.000 any stuff going on with children

02:18:38.000 It was a satanic ritual that I shot on video that's aired on the Trio Network.

02:18:44.000 I should say this.

02:18:46.000 We've had a number of good questions about cases here in the United States.

02:18:49.000 My work was primarily based in Europe and Asia, and so I confess ignorance on a number of these particular cases.

02:18:58.000 Alex, has the murder ever been solved of your friend who went back to the Grove?

02:19:03.000 A murder of who?

02:19:04.000 No, that was an internet rumor.

02:19:07.000 Ed Holman was never murdered.

02:19:08.000 He divorced his wife and moved to Houston, and I've seen Ed four or five times.

02:19:12.000 Okay.

02:19:13.000 Now that shows the type of stuff that goes on around here.

02:19:17.000 People focus on stuff that isn't accurate.

02:19:20.000 Okay, thank you.

02:19:21.000 Okay, Ed went for another software job in Ed Homan went and covered the Grove the second year of the protest.

02:19:28.000 They're going on right now again for the third year since I snuck in.

02:19:32.000 And then he got divorced and moved.

02:19:34.000 Everybody was saying, Ed's dead.

02:19:36.000 It's the kind of stuff I deal with.

02:19:38.000 Like Mark Twain said, the reports of his death are greatly exaggerated.

02:19:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:19:43.000 Let's go ahead and talk to, I guess, Keith in Florida is up next.

02:19:50.000 Go ahead, Keith.

02:19:51.000 You're on the air with Dr. Bannon.

02:19:52.000 Good afternoon, Mr. Jones and Dr. O'Bannon.

02:19:55.000 Question, Mr. O'Bannon.

02:19:57.000 Would you ever produce... Bannon.

02:19:58.000 O'Bannon?

02:19:59.000 Bannon.

02:20:00.000 I'm sorry.

02:20:00.000 Bannon.

02:20:02.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:20:03.000 Question, would he ever produce a list of people in corporations, high government, or high religious areas by name who are in the United States or globally?

02:20:13.000 You know what I'm saying, like a list of them that were involved, that he was privy to, that he couldn't go after?

02:20:19.000 An excellent question and one I've been asked repeatedly.

02:20:25.000 If I may say this, and I'm entirely selfish in this account, but that is part of the large amount of documentation that I keep secret as an insurance policy for myself and my family.

02:20:39.000 Understand this, if he was going to release that, he had better release it to a hundred sources before he announced it, because if he was going to release that, they would kill him in a minute.

02:20:50.000 Well, I understand that, sir.

02:20:51.000 And that's what I've said before.

02:20:52.000 You're only safe by going public, folks.

02:20:55.000 Not by hiding and sneaking around.

02:20:56.000 Right.

02:20:57.000 And certainly, that is an insurance policy to have that.

02:21:01.000 But I guarantee if you did release it, they would probably whack you as well.

02:21:06.000 Oh, yes.

02:21:06.000 Who knows?

02:21:07.000 And I think what you said is accurate.

02:21:09.000 I would have to release it in such a blanket release worldwide.

02:21:14.000 And I guarantee you, you're under surveillance.

02:21:16.000 Oh, every day.

02:21:16.000 Okay.

02:21:18.000 Thank you, doctor.

02:21:18.000 All right.

02:21:19.000 Thank you.

02:21:21.000 Yeah, so and I mean, it's probably dangerous for your life to even discuss releasing it.

02:21:26.000 Absolutely correct.

02:21:27.000 And I should say, it is an insurance policy that I hold on to.

02:21:33.000 And it is, there's within the intelligence community, a number of operatives, lower level operatives who all work with each other.

02:21:40.000 So that if one were to happen to one, if something were to happen to one, then the others in another country would immediately release The information that you've amassed over the years.

02:21:52.000 This is the only insurance these operatives have against their own government.

02:21:56.000 You got it.

02:21:57.000 Larry in Indiana, you're on the air, Larry, go ahead.

02:22:01.000 Mr. Bannon, confirmation of what you're saying here, it's a distasteful topic, but I was reading about 18-month-old kids being tortured and raped, etc., as part of the MKUltra program, Britt Springmeier has documented a lot of

02:22:17.000 this in the Illuminati families and that's what these sickle world leaders do.

02:22:23.000 If you believe the material from Kathy O'Brien, it also implicates Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney,

02:22:29.000 but these are some other things you might want to check into, just backing up what you

02:22:34.000 say.

02:22:35.000 The information is out there.

02:22:36.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:22:37.000 And the MKUltra program is notorious for not only abusing these children, but also many

02:22:44.000 of the doctors were sexually molesting them as well.

02:22:47.000 For those listeners who may not be... I'll tell you what, Dr. Bannon, do five more minutes with us on the other side so we can let Larry finish up, and then go to Pam.

02:22:54.000 And that's it for calls, because I've got to cover World War III stuff.

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02:24:01.000 We're here live, our final segment with Dr. David Bannon.

02:24:06.000 The website is davidbannon.net.

02:24:10.000 And let's go back to Larry in Indiana bringing up some of the horrible details that have been documented by Senator DeCamp and others.

02:24:19.000 Unfortunately, I wish it wasn't going on.

02:24:21.000 I wish it wasn't true.

02:24:25.000 Again, the globalists count on us not being able to believe the horror.

02:24:28.000 Larry, anything else you'd like to bring up, sir?

02:24:30.000 Well, like we're supposed to believe, Amber, or it's really for the children when the CIA goes out and finds them for this.

02:24:35.000 I would add that...

02:24:37.000 Fritz Spritmeier did get the kind of reward you guys are talking about.

02:24:40.000 They set him up on bogus robbery charges, bank robbery charges, just like Mark Kornke.

02:24:45.000 And he's in prison now for his work.

02:24:47.000 So that's how they reward you for getting the truth out.

02:24:50.000 You know, that is amazing, because they admit with Mark Kornke.

02:24:52.000 They have the video.

02:24:53.000 It wasn't him.

02:24:54.000 Later, they said, OK, it wasn't.

02:24:55.000 But he ran from the police.

02:24:58.000 And the same thing was with Fritz Spritmeier.

02:25:00.000 I mean, they kept going after him, Spritmeier, over and over again.

02:25:05.000 And then just said, with no witnesses, oh, you're a bank robber.

02:25:08.000 It's amazing that this stuff goes on.

02:25:11.000 And now they have people out trying to discredit his work, pretending to be MKUltra victims themselves, Alex.

02:25:18.000 His is really good, valid material, and by reading one of his books, I knew that movie, The Matrix, was loaded with those trigger cues to set those kids off.

02:25:27.000 Well, it's truth is strange with infection, and we've been too naive too long, and We've got to check into it.

02:25:35.000 Any comments, Dr. Bannon, to what Larry's saying?

02:25:38.000 Well, we had mentioned the MKUltra program, and I do want to say this.

02:25:43.000 Those types of programs not only exist in our country, but all across the world.

02:25:47.000 I certainly saw evidence of them in both South and North Korea and China.

02:25:53.000 Other than that, I think that, as you said, The best defense we have against all of this type of grotesque traffic of children and the abuse of them, whether through mind control or the sex trade, is awareness.

02:26:10.000 You can't change anything if you don't expose the tools of the devil, no matter how grotesque the topic.

02:26:16.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

02:26:17.000 Absolutely.

02:26:18.000 Absolutely.

02:26:19.000 And it's something that has to be discussed.

02:26:22.000 Pam in Missouri, last caller for our guest, Dr. Bannon.

02:26:24.000 Go ahead.

02:26:25.000 Hi Alex and Dr. Bannon.

02:26:27.000 Thank you both for your work.

02:26:29.000 And those two callers stole my thunder.

02:26:31.000 I was going to ask, please expose them if you know who the higher-ups are.

02:26:36.000 That's the only way to stop it.

02:26:40.000 And if we don't expose them and don't stop them, it will continue.

02:26:44.000 I understand your need to protect your family.

02:26:47.000 Pam, you're right, but the Washington Times...

02:26:51.000 Uh, Parade Magazine.

02:26:52.000 I mean, it's in my, uh, Bohemian Grove film.

02:26:55.000 Uh, we don't get into the stuff with the children. 0.98

02:26:57.000 It's just the Washington Times saying these neo-conservatives, uh, fly in the high-dollar male prostitutes. 0.98

02:27:04.000 I mean, and then, and then, and then they run around dressed like women. 1.00

02:27:08.000 You know, Secretary of State, former President.

02:27:11.000 I mean, that's, that's the Washington Times.

02:27:13.000 Hold on, hold on, Pam.

02:27:15.000 That's the Washington Times.

02:27:17.000 And then I'll be on some Christian talk show as a guest and they'll attack me going, you're not a good American for saying that about the former president.

02:27:25.000 And I'm reading the Washington Times and what Davin Gergen says they do there.

02:27:31.000 Dr. Bannon, you weren't aware of Bohemian Grove or Skull & Bones?

02:27:35.000 No.

02:27:37.000 Boy, is that a whole other... How did the occult feed in?

02:27:40.000 I mean, did you ever run into the occult when you were investigating these sicko rings overseas?

02:27:45.000 Yes, we did, but I should say this.

02:27:48.000 It did not appear to be a causal factor.

02:27:51.000 We found that these individuals who molest and buy and sell children cross all religious boundaries.

02:27:57.000 professed about Christianity, members of Islam, Buddhists, atheists, it seemed to make no

02:28:05.000 difference.

02:28:06.000 I know that there's a legitimate fear that certain cults might traffic in children, but

02:28:11.000 our experience was that these individuals find each other across socioeconomic and religious

02:28:17.000 lines.

02:28:18.000 Well, of course, but what I was saying is that...

02:28:20.000 May I speak something directly to Dr. Bannon?

02:28:22.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:28:22.000 evidence of this uh... with occult

02:28:25.000 uh... slash you know luciferian i wouldn't call it satanism because i think lucifer is god

02:28:30.000 it's babylonian type religion in the western elites in this country and uh... then it has

02:28:37.000 uh... the trafficking children involved

02:28:39.000 uh... i see uh... yes ma'am

02:28:43.000 may i speak something directly to dr bannon concerning his i know how he feels the guilt

02:28:49.000 about what he did but I want you to remember that God does not change.

02:28:54.000 He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

02:28:57.000 He had many people put to death for their evil.

02:29:00.000 Read God's Word and repent.

02:29:02.000 If you feel badly, repent of it and know that you're forgiven.

02:29:07.000 But you did right.

02:29:09.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:29:10.000 And of course, Pam's talking about Dr. Bannon knifing these people.

02:29:19.000 Thanks, Pam.

02:29:19.000 Is that normally how you executed them?

02:29:21.000 Was it with a knife?

02:29:23.000 Primarily, yes.

02:29:25.000 My expertise was with bladed weapons and close quarter combat. 0.92

02:29:30.000 But you say you generally interrogated them before killing them.

02:29:33.000 Yes, often we did. 1.00

02:29:34.000 Did these scumbags usually fight back or did they just grovel? 0.99

02:29:41.000 It depended on the individual, and I can say that there are many occasions where, thank God I was with the team, because some of these scumbags were very tough. 0.99

02:29:49.000 We'd like to think of them all being cowards, but they weren't. 0.98

02:29:53.000 There were grovelers as well, however. 0.74

02:29:57.000 My goodness, alrighty.

02:29:59.000 I'm going to let you go, Doctor, but can you tell us one story of one of these guys that fought back and what you did?

02:30:06.000 Sure.

02:30:07.000 We had talked in the previous hour about an assignment I had in Communist Romania.

02:30:12.000 My first assignment, as a matter of fact.

02:30:14.000 The individual that I was tracking took a day trip off to Castle Dracula in Transylvania, of all places.

02:30:22.000 He was taking the tour there and left the tour.

02:30:25.000 I followed him.

02:30:26.000 He was under surveillance.

02:30:28.000 And as I followed him, he went into an alley and met a Romanian man where they trotted out a young three-year-old Girl and he was going to purchase the girl and also they began to molest the child. 0.92

02:30:42.000 I ran down the alley furious at what I was witnessing and both individuals were particularly adept at unarmed combat and fought back strenuously.

02:30:53.000 The physical confrontation that ensued certainly drew attention from the Securitate, which was the Secret Service in Romania.

02:31:04.000 However, the investigating officer had Interpol connections and I was able to be released from that country.

02:31:11.000 Whenever we had an occasion that someone fought back like that, our greatest fear was that either their Confederates or the local law enforcement would expose Interpol's role.

02:31:22.000 So you got emotional on your first mission seeing this and kind of ran into it?

02:31:27.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:31:28.000 How did you finally take them out?

02:31:30.000 Uh, the one individual I used the butt of the knife to collapse his windpipe, which later I saw had killed him, and the second individual, the one I'd been tracking in the first place, I used a kidney strike in his back, which, uh, with the bladed weapon, which generally paralyzes and causes death within minutes.

02:31:52.000 Well, it's, uh...

02:31:54.000 It's amazing and we really appreciate you coming on and perhaps we can have you back up again in the future to get into some of the other areas of this.

02:32:03.000 It's obviously a large subject and just God bless you for coming forward and discussing this and I agree with the listeners, you need to expose these people to higher ups and And everybody needs to pray for you, Dr. Bannon, because you've already got Interpol coming to you trying to get you to sign that paper.

02:32:23.000 I think if you sign that paper saying none of this is true, I think you're signing your death warrant.

02:32:28.000 I do.

02:32:28.000 Do you agree?

02:32:30.000 All right.

02:32:31.000 We appreciate you coming on.

02:32:31.000 Well, God bless you.

02:32:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:32:33.000 Take care.

02:32:35.000 Oh, man, that is hard to talk about.

02:32:37.000 It is so horrible and scary.

02:32:39.000 But, you know, it's like the first hour of the show we had the family on out of the New York Post.

02:32:45.000 We had Angela Lipsman and her father, Daniel Lipsman.

02:32:48.000 She is now about to be a graduate of a college at 15 with a 3.8.4 and they're going to move with criminal charges against them for not sending her to public school and they're not going to allow her to have her college degree.

02:33:03.000 They're threatening the university.

02:33:04.000 I mean, see, they're evil.

02:33:06.000 And you heard Dr. Bannon say the CPS workers The school teachers, the family court judges, these, and let me tell you something, they're all over the place.

02:33:15.000 This is where they concentrate. 0.94

02:33:18.000 And I have been to the government meetings, I've debated these people, I've resisted them on subjects where they're trying to destroy parental rights, and you can look at them, as Dr. Bannon was saying, you can look at them and they are bags of pus. 1.00

02:33:35.000 They are inhuman trash. 0.98

02:33:38.000 And they busted a bunch of them here locally, because there are good cops and good police and good FBI. 1.00

02:33:43.000 And they get busted, but it never goes higher than the low level.

02:33:46.000 So you want to know where they're at?

02:33:48.000 They're in the courthouse.

02:33:49.000 They're in the schoolhouse.

02:33:50.000 They're the truancy officers, the greatest concentration we know of.

02:33:54.000 I mean, I see articles in the newswires.

02:33:56.000 And again, we're just scanning newswires, scanning newswires for old stories.

02:34:01.000 And we come across this type of stuff, and it's, uh, watch out.

02:34:05.000 The truancy officers, uh, masses of people running the databases and CPS, as the Miami Herald reported, top convicted pedophiles.

02:34:14.000 And the government said, hey, they're allowed to run the database.

02:34:17.000 Talk about the fox guard and the hen house.

02:34:20.000 And it is terrifying, especially to parents.

02:34:23.000 It is just to know that they're in the government, they're running things, we're counting on good officers, good people, to blow the whistle, to have the courage like Dr. Bannon.

02:34:32.000 And I'll have to tell you, we'll have to have a debate about this another day.

02:34:39.000 Is it good to go, once you see the evidence of this, to execute them without a trial?

02:34:44.000 I can see how they sell our special forces on killing Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

02:34:48.000 But see, it turned out they weren't Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

02:34:50.000 See, it's the same story.

02:34:51.000 Either they're killing low-level people and protecting the high-level, and then all this does is create a cadre that'll carry this out who's been compromised.

02:34:58.000 And his book gets into how then he was compromised.

02:34:59.000 I'm not going to take any more calls.

02:35:03.000 Just to give you an idea of the type of stuff I see on the news wires, I want to run through this.

02:35:08.000 I just want to run through some of what we have here.

02:35:10.000 New terror message threatens the U.S.

02:35:12.000 and again the government's come out and had to admit they put out fake terror alerts to scare us.

02:35:16.000 A Dubai radio station has broadcast a message attributed to Al-Qaeda terrorist network, that means CIA, threatening to attack U.S.

02:35:25.000 interests throughout the world.

02:35:27.000 We are threatening U.S.

02:35:28.000 troops and all those who support them by intensifying our resistance operations and our jihad and the strike of the American interest in Afghanistan.

02:35:37.000 And of course Dubai is where the CIA met with Bin Laden right before 9-1-1.

02:35:41.000 And the head of Pakistan intelligence who was funding Mohammed Adda and others was at the White House and Congress with the heads of the committees.

02:35:50.000 U.S.-North Korea drifting towards war, Perry warns.

02:35:52.000 Former Defense Secretary says standoff between the risk of terrorists obtained a device.

02:35:56.000 He went on to say, quote, I think we're losing control.

02:35:59.000 We are going to have a nuclear event in this country.

02:36:01.000 Former Defense Secretary William Perry warned the United States and North Korea are drifting towards war, perhaps as early as this year.

02:36:08.000 Will Richard Perle, the Deputy Defense Secretary, will policy wonk?

02:36:13.000 Deputy Defense Secretary is Wolfowitz, but he's basically the acting subdivision guy.

02:36:18.000 I said a few months ago at a White House press dinner, quote, we're going to be attacking North Korea. 0.97

02:36:23.000 Rumsfeld released the documents.

02:36:24.000 They plan to attack in October.

02:36:26.000 Now we have three separate plans of how to do it with pinpoint nukes.

02:36:31.000 And, uh, why release that even if they're going to do it?

02:36:35.000 I mean, that endangers our troops.

02:36:36.000 I mean, again, I can't defend North Korea, folks, but it's sitting there. 0.97

02:36:40.000 Our government's armed them.

02:36:42.000 And it's going to have a lot of casualties, folks.

02:36:45.000 That is guaranteed. 0.94

02:36:45.000 I mean, North Koreans commit suicide when they're captured. 0.94

02:36:48.000 Talk about a brainwashed covey of mind control slaves. 0.98

02:36:52.000 Senate to kill Pentagon surveillance bill. 0.92

02:36:54.000 That is absolutely false.

02:36:56.000 Disinformation from the Associated Press and Washington Post.

02:37:00.000 They're funding DARPA in a hundred different programs.

02:37:02.000 They kill one program and you think it's gone.

02:37:04.000 I mean, DARPA put hundreds of microphones up in Austin five years ago.

02:37:11.000 That's in my film Police State 2000.

02:37:13.000 They put the cameras up.

02:37:15.000 In fact, Here's another one.

02:37:17.000 Pentagon to dig into marketing of data on citizens.

02:37:20.000 That's the Washington Times saying that, look, they say the TIPS program's over, they call it talent.

02:37:25.000 You know, that's all they do to make you think everything's fine.

02:37:28.000 A Pentagon alters LifeLog project, and the Pentagon had said that everything you do, everything you buy, everything you say will be tracked and traced.

02:37:36.000 Well, now they say just some of it because you complained Got another one here where England with its three plus million surveillance cameras is going to put in the software that doesn't just face scan or license plate scan and know where you are and what you're doing all under surveillance at all times.

02:37:55.000 In violation of the Magna Carta, now they are going to use the stuff that sees if you're walking aggressively, or it's going to scan your brainwaves and see if they're excited.

02:38:06.000 I'm not kidding.

02:38:07.000 Good police quote had probable cause to question you.

02:38:10.000 This is mainstream news.

02:38:11.000 I'm going to dig it out.

02:38:14.000 Here's another one.

02:38:15.000 This is a Business Wire Digital Angel Corp.

02:38:19.000 livestock scanner installed at PM's Beef Wyndham plant.

02:38:25.000 And, uh, the Homeland Security is pressing to make it mandatory to put chips in all cattle, all dogs, all cats.

02:38:33.000 And, uh, again, uh, we have the secret documents now published, uh, by the, uh, ID Center with Walmart and the Defense Department of a plan for a national control grid to track everything you do with implantable microchips in all products.

02:38:46.000 That came out two weeks ago, mainstream news.

02:38:49.000 So we have that for you.

02:38:50.000 Here's another one.

02:38:51.000 Study shows kids in daycare more likely to be aggressive.

02:38:54.000 They break up the family, make both people work, make it fashionable, so you can't raise your own children.

02:38:59.000 Then they turn into little demons and get vaccinated.

02:39:02.000 This is out of Channel 5K SLTV.

02:39:05.000 Study shows kids in daycare more likely to be aggressive.

02:39:07.000 A federal study shows The more time young children spend in daycare, the more likely they are to be overly aggressive.

02:39:12.000 By the time they get into kindergarten, because the aggressive kids will attack them, then they fight back, then you get on Ritalin and Prozac, which is what they want to begin with.

02:39:20.000 And so, that's the bottom.

02:39:24.000 I mean, everybody already knew this, but the system the government has given us is to destroy society.

02:39:30.000 Again, you are graduating from college at 15, CPS files criminal charges on your parents.

02:39:36.000 They don't want, we have their own federal documents.

02:39:39.000 Food scientists to assess bioterrorism risk.

02:39:41.000 A new group formed, Reuters reports, by the biotech companies is going to tell us how safe it is.

02:39:52.000 Korean Guard exchanged fire.

02:39:55.000 Soldiers from North Korea and South Korea have exchanged machine gun fire as tensions rise amid efforts to resolve the crisis over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program.

02:40:04.000 Again, the globalist announcement that they plan to invade as early as October.

02:40:08.000 North Korea has got Pyongyang and Kim Jong-il going nuts.

02:40:13.000 They're trying to push them on the 10-part plan to attack first.

02:40:16.000 Out of that crisis, you'll get World War III, national draft, total control. 0.79

02:40:21.000 And it goes on.

02:40:22.000 U.S.

02:40:22.000 drafts Liberian troop plan.

02:40:24.000 There's already hundreds of troops there.

02:40:25.000 Now they're going to send thousands.

02:40:26.000 That'll be a nice diversion as U.S.

02:40:28.000 troops get killed there.

02:40:29.000 Sad for them, but it'll be a good diversion for the globalists.

02:40:32.000 Russian nuclear subs never stop patrolling world.

02:40:34.000 ITAR-TOS, official Russian news, reports the U.S.

02:40:37.000 is surrounded by Chinese and Russian nuked subs.

02:40:42.000 But the border's wide open and CPS is going after 15-year-olds as they graduate from college.

02:40:48.000 This is from ABC News.

02:40:49.000 Report U.S.

02:40:50.000 may call National Guard for Iraq duty. 0.89

02:40:52.000 More of your family getting shot and killed and Bush does bring it on.

02:40:57.000 Bureaucrats block spot checks on safety of space shuttle and help that take place. 1.00

02:41:01.000 Salt Lake City Tribune, no kidding.

02:41:04.000 Smart software linked to CCTV can spot dubious behavior.

02:41:08.000 This is the new scientist.

02:41:10.000 They claim it's new.

02:41:11.000 It's been out for years.

02:41:12.000 They're announcing they're going to use it on you.

02:41:14.000 DARPA has had Austin wired again for five years.

02:41:18.000 They are powerful microphones.

02:41:20.000 Some of them even have laser arrays to listen through your windows.

02:41:25.000 Again, from where I sit, there are three cameras.

02:41:28.000 And at my other office, there are dozens within five blocks.

02:41:33.000 We'll be back with this system.

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02:44:40.000 [Music]

02:44:45.000 I'm going through the news as quickly as possible.

02:44:47.000 I should have done this in the first hour, but I just had so many amazing guests today.

02:44:53.000 Smart software linked to CCTV can spot dubious behavior.

02:44:58.000 Now, every time there's a news article, it's how new it is, how it's just in a few places.

02:45:03.000 Almost two years ago, in five airports, they put brain scanners in, designed by NASA.

02:45:08.000 And they quote, decide if you're guilty.

02:45:11.000 It could be the dawn of a new era of surveillance.

02:45:13.000 For the first time, smart software will help CCTV operators spot any abnormal behavior.

02:45:20.000 The trial due to go live in two London Underground stations this week is a success.

02:45:25.000 It accelerates the adoption of the technology around the world, the software which analyzes CCTV footage, it helps spot suicide attempts, overcrowding, Again, in suspect packages and trespassers, the hope is that by automating the predictions, see it's pre-crime, or detection of such events, security staff, who often have as much as 60 cameras to monitor, simultaneously can reach the scene in time to prevent a potential tragedy.

02:45:52.000 So, you see, I told you Echelon, even with keyword and key stuff, with video and audio and stuff, can't track them all, they don't have the personnel.

02:46:00.000 But this is perfect for him because they found with the face scanning cameras, everybody they went after in Tampa with it was innocent.

02:46:06.000 Just, oh, you're a criminal, SWAT team runs up, it's the wrong person.

02:46:09.000 They don't care.

02:46:10.000 It's not designed to work.

02:46:11.000 It's just, oh, the camera showed some aggression or, you know, your car was driving erratically, so we got flagged to you and the mile marker told us where you were at.

02:46:22.000 There's behavioral oddities.

02:46:23.000 And it goes, not long ago, similar claims were made of face recognition software, which is still to make it smart, particularly at crime prevention.

02:46:30.000 But it doesn't matter.

02:46:30.000 It's still everywhere.

02:46:31.000 The computer scientist behind IPS is convinced that the software will not suffer a similar fate.

02:46:37.000 And it sees how you walk, it scans heat off your brain.

02:46:41.000 The government's scanning you with CAT scan cameras as you walk around.

02:46:45.000 It's the mark of a free society.

02:46:47.000 Just bristling, everything being scanned.

02:46:50.000 Your heart rate, everything.

02:46:52.000 It's all part of freedom, folks.

02:46:53.000 And of course, I know who you are off the face scan.

02:46:56.000 Now it's a giant grid being built by the Pentagon to control you and your family.

02:47:01.000 Some good news.

02:47:02.000 Judge declares roadless rule illegal, saying Bill Clinton's land grab, saying that they can take your private roads away if they border public land are illegal.

02:47:12.000 But the problem is there's a bunch of loopholes in here you can drive Mack trucks through, but that is good news overall.

02:47:18.000 Just a bunch of other news here that we didn't get to.

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02:47:26.000 The troops are going to put on the streets of America unarmed ground vehicles that zap you and microwave you or shoot you. 0.56

02:47:34.000 And the police, of course, will be getting them, too.

02:47:37.000 And, of course, they'll need to use them on you.

02:47:38.000 It's all part of freedom, ladies and gentlemen.

02:47:42.000 Before I end this show, I do want to talk about how a black bear mauled a few people the other day.

02:47:48.000 So I say ban black bears.

02:47:50.000 They want to ban guns.

02:47:51.000 An old man out in California drove over and killed 6-8 people.

02:47:54.000 They're not sure yet.

02:47:55.000 Yesterday, I say ban old folks from driving. 1.00

02:47:57.000 I don't really mean that, but that's the answer to everything in this world now.

02:48:02.000 Don't punish people individually.

02:48:03.000 Punish us all.

02:48:04.000 They're talking about Australia primed to be brought into the United States.

02:48:08.000 That's from the News of Australia.

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