Alex Jones goes over the Recall of Governor Gray Davis and why it is a good thing that the people have the right to recall their own Governor. In the second half of the show, we have Bill Boshears, host of the WLW show "Blowtorch" coming on the show to talk about broadcasting in the New World Order.
00:00:50.000It is the 30th of July, 2003 on this live Wednesday edition.
00:00:59.000Coming up in the next hour, we've got the founder and the head of the Recall Governor Davis movement that was so successful in getting the 1.6 Plus a million signatures and the government was only able to throw out 300,000 of those.
00:01:16.000Almost double the number that they needed to get the recall started were completed.
00:01:26.000And so now it moves into the rest of the process and the candidates prepare to We'll find out from the folks that started it all in the next hour.
00:01:37.000going to be a democrat or a neocon like Arnold Schwarzenegger or will it be one of the more
00:01:43.000conservative members of their legislature.
00:01:48.000We'll find out from the folks that started it all in the next hour.
00:01:53.000And this is important even if you don't live in California because California is a globalist
00:01:58.000test state, a model state for all the horrible systems they want to make mainstream in this
00:02:10.000More than New York, more than Boston, more than Florida, even more than Texas or Michigan or Colorado, which are also model states for the New World Order and different programs they're putting in.
00:02:22.000Now, I've heard neocons on the air saying this is really bad.
00:02:25.000The recall of Davis is bad because it may get the Democrats, the liberals as they're called, to start recalls of Republicans.
00:02:38.000Whether it's Republicans or Democrats, it's the people's right to engage in recalls.
00:02:44.000That's exactly what America was founded in.
00:02:48.000It happened quite a bit in the first few decades of this country, and it's very healthy.
00:02:55.000And sure, some good people might get removed, some bad people might get removed, but that's the people in action, and it's a good thing here in our constitutional republic.
00:03:08.000So, we'll be going over that in the second hour.
00:03:11.000In the third hour, we've got an interesting individual coming on, Bill Boshears.
00:04:41.000More on this thing with the criminal John Poindexter, the convicted felon, running his betting scheme, his currency insider trading scam, that he wanted to make mainstream and legal there at the Pentagon.
00:04:56.000I mean, there's a lot of facets to this, and a lot of writers are talking about it being Alice in Wonderland.
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00:08:47.000So let me just run through some of the headlines right now.
00:08:52.000And let me first add the caveat that we do have Howard Kalugian coming on.
00:09:00.000He is the founder and the head, the chairman, of the Recall Davis campaign.
00:09:05.000So we'll find out the inner workings, what the Democrats are trying to do to derail this, how they have one of their top agents, Michael Savage, one of the top Deetnik agents, In there who say he may run as an independent, which will then ensure that a liberal Democrat or liberal Republican gets elected.
00:09:30.000I don't know if you can see it when it's right in your face.
00:09:33.000But we'll talk about Mr. Schwarzenegger, Mr. Gungrab, Mr. pro-abortion, who the Bohemian Grove, the San Francisco Chronicle, reported last week.
00:09:45.000They've told him, the Republican National Leadership, that they want him to run.
00:09:50.000But Arnold hasn't said whether he'll do it or not, and he's only got a few more weeks to decide.
00:09:57.000So we'll talk about this whole process and what it means nationally, because now there could be recall votes against other Democrats, against other Republicans, against members of the Senate, which by the way is going on against McCain.
00:10:09.000And it's not happening from the liberal camp, but from the conservative camp, the real conservative camp that I count myself a part of, that actually believes in sovereignty, and actually believes in the Second Amendment, and in not being a globalist.
00:10:26.000So I think recalls are wonderful, and they're a part of American society, and back when this country was a lot freer, we had a lot more of these recalls going on.
00:10:34.000So that's in the second hour, just for about 20 minutes, and we'll have other news and calls.
00:10:39.000Then in the third hour, I've got Bill Boshears, who's on WLW, big 50,000 watt AM that I've been on many times, and he's an interesting fella.
00:10:48.000We'll be talking to Bill Boshears in the third hour, so stay with us, folks.
00:10:53.000But this is the kind of news I have in front of me every day.
00:11:14.000Threats force freed farmer into hiding.
00:11:18.000Killed teenage burglar, Tony Martin, released after 39 months in jail.
00:11:23.000Pulled dead man by the gangs that stalk him.
00:11:27.000Only in England where you defend yourself and the gangs say they're going to get you because it sets a bad precedent to have the minions that they feed on defending themselves.
00:11:37.000Remember, he's the guy that got life in prison.
00:11:41.000Has he been robbed three times, and they were attacking his wife, and so he shot and killed one of them, and the burglars sued him and won, and got him put in life in prison, and the burglars writing... The guy had like 35 convictions.
00:11:54.000He's writing books now, making money, but Tony Martin isn't allowed to.
00:12:01.000And they'll make the... Hey, look, they're already trying to make it like that here in the U.S., where you get prison time if you defend yourself in your own home.
00:12:55.000Oh, the satellite tracker box kill switch has to be in all cars.
00:13:00.000See, they announced they wanted to start taxing you and they're going to start it now, but Just in case you have a problem, they say it's to save lives.
00:13:09.000It says it here in the article, and it's for the children.
00:13:12.000It actually says it's for the children.
00:13:26.000They'll say it's conservative, and then you'll say, well, then we must do it.
00:13:31.000A new theory suggests death of Calvi was murdered, not suicide.
00:13:38.000And again, I'm probably mispronouncing it, but C-A-L-V-I, the famous case of the banker who supposedly hung himself.
00:13:45.000Turned out it was a murder, just like with Dr. David Kelly.
00:13:50.000New theory suggests death of Calvi was murdered, not suicide.
00:13:55.000And then it gets, this is the London Independent, and now the Italian news and the government says, yeah, he was killed, but the British government covered it up.
00:14:04.000And that dovetails nicely with Blair implicated in Kelly death.
00:14:10.000That's the headline out of the London Guardian.
00:14:12.000And there's a bunch of headlines about his last day, his actions were the opposite of someone who was suicidal.
00:14:22.000Telling friends he was going to fight the government.
00:14:24.000He was going to get his good name back.
00:14:26.000He was going to go ahead and bring out all the information.
00:14:29.000There were dark actors surrounding him.
00:15:06.000Also, terror trading program dies, but reality check still needed.
00:15:13.000And let me stop here and spend a few minutes on this and I'll get into more detail later.
00:15:19.000Folks, this morning we scanned the news wires for several hours.
00:15:25.000My wife did, one of my other employees did, I did.
00:15:30.000I scanned the news wires several hours last night and about half the news articles in Forbes and Fortune and the New York Times are actually positive about the giant currency slash war, death, A speculation gambling house, insider trading house, that's already been set up at the Pentagon years ago, but they were going to make it public and claim it was legal.
00:16:02.000And about half the articles are positive.
00:16:07.000I was watching CNN last night and They talked about how this would keep us safe, and maybe it's needed, and Fox was joking about it, but said, you know, maybe it's a bad idea, but it was just to keep us safe.
00:16:21.000Uh, yeah, secret passwords where anyone can bet on where the next terror attack will be in the billions of dollars, and you have the government run a speculation market, which should be illegal in and of themselves, or bad enough, And upset markets and ruin people and are much more dangerous than any Las Vegas casino.
00:16:44.000You're going to have that writing on who dies or what gets blown up or will smallpox get released in the U.S.
00:16:50.000or what prime minister will get assassinated or will more U.S.
00:16:56.000troops die or will we be thrown out of Iraq?
00:16:59.000Then you have the people who are over the military and running all this, over the gambling system.
00:17:04.000I mean, this is so horrible, there's no way to even describe it!
00:17:10.000And the articles that are against it, mainly by real conservatives and a few liberals, just a few, I guess, clear thinkers, whatever you want to call them, you know, they talk about Alice in Wonderland craziness, they can't understand it, you know, why would they announce something this crazy?
00:17:28.000But then the other half is this is completely normal.
00:17:46.000It's legitimizing What the globalist, what the CIA did on 9-1-1, when they placed put options, that against American and United dropping, when they were at very high levels, a week before, three days before, at record levels.
00:18:06.000And then it led back to the government.
00:18:08.000Well, they just want to institutionalize that, and then they've got this new psychological warfare tactic of just doing things right out in the open, to hopefully think you'll just be conditioned and accept it.
00:18:19.000Oh well, they're the authorities, it must be okay to bet on when U.S.
00:18:34.000the government, wouldn't carry out terror to make money.
00:18:36.000But they've already done it, folks, as just a side caveat.
00:18:41.000Terror trading program dies, but reality checks still needed.
00:18:46.000And this is one out of the Seacoast News.
00:18:50.000And it says, terror trading program dies, but reality check still needed.
00:18:54.000The Bush administration has finally stepped through the looking glass, or fallen down the rabbit hole, whichever analogy you prefer, into some sort of alternative reality.
00:19:10.000This is true, at least as far as foreign policy goes, and perhaps some other areas of government are concerned, too.
00:19:18.000One of the administration's best and brightest employed the Pentagon's Defense Research Projects Agency, and that's Admiral Poindexter, came up with the idea of establishing a futures market in which the commodity being traded is human tragedy.
00:19:32.000Dubbed the Policy Analyst Market, the program would allow traders to profit by correctly predicting assassinations and terrorist attacks in the Middle East and the U.S.
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00:24:22.000It's your chance to respond to the Pentagon gambling scheme, but it's more than gambling.
00:24:31.000We know that the globalists control and manipulate the currency, the speculation, the derivatives, Markets.
00:24:41.000And if you look at derivatives, and you look at the speculation markets, and currency, and grain, and pork bellies, and steel, and gold, it's a bigger business in just betting on random numbers, and guessing what's going to happen, than building cars, and prisons, and superconductors, and microchips, and helicopters, and roads, The speculation market, we've had economists on, we've read the news articles here, is much bigger, many times bigger, every day, than all real stock and things that are traded and things that are done and money that's transferred and property that's sold.
00:25:29.000And the globalists control the events, they control the mercantile in Chicago, they control the big currency markets, And it's just a giant fiat currency system for them, and they just rack up zeros and ones in their computers, and the mom and pops go out there in a gullible fashion and throw their money in behind it.
00:25:52.000I mean, you've got... I've seen the odds broken out and laid out, but...
00:25:58.000Depending on what type of derivative or what exchange, you've got a lot better chance winning at the roulette wheel or at blackjack, which is one of the better games, statistically, than you do in these speculation markets.
00:26:17.000But for the globalists with their inside information, as the articles say, this could allow terrorists to bet on things because they know the outcome.
00:27:31.000The administration is basically saying that people who normally trade in hog bellies and wheat are better able to determine what will happen at some future time in the Middle East than the CIA, NSA, or military intelligence sources.
00:27:43.000Uh, yeah, oh, that's the outward claim.
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00:31:01.000I am phasing myself off of it, but I had a big fat headache, so I Mike was coming into the studio and I called him on the cell phone about 10 minutes ago and said, will you get me a coffee?
00:31:12.000And Mike walked right in as I was going on the air and handed me this coffee, this drug.
00:31:19.000Of course, it's about 20 times less strong than Ritalin that we give 15-month-old babies in this country, but it's still bad stuff and I really shouldn't do it, but hold on, I've got to have it.
00:31:34.000By the way, there's a move to tax and perhaps even ban coffee.
00:31:41.000It may be like a controlled substance.
00:31:43.000So will T-bone steaks, chicken fried steaks, butter.
00:31:48.000With your new special driver's license, they're going to make you pay a special tax just to eat fattening food or drink things that are bad for you.
00:32:22.000I said we're going to have open phones to take your calls concerning the The betting situation, the currency speculation, the pork barrel speculators, all of this, well, they're now moving into betting on dead soldiers, but it's a lot more than just that, and they claim they've cancelled it, but of course that's not true.
00:33:02.000For one, I find it astounding that Gray Davis would run up, I think, a total debt of $38 billion in the state of California, which, in a sense, comes to about a little over $1,000 to every man, woman, and child in the state of California.
00:34:12.000I don't like him because he's for open borders and anti-gun.
00:34:15.000I have no problem with a recall of him, but if the reason is this debt, then yes, it's pretty hypocritical.
00:34:25.000Right, and one aspect of what I was trying to get at is that George Bush ran up, you know, what they talk about in the media, a $450 billion debt in one year's time.
00:34:35.000When you divide that by a population of about 300 million Americans, It comes to $1,500 for every man, woman, and child in that year's time.
00:34:47.000Well, it's a lot more than that because only about 160 million of those are actual taxpayers.
00:34:54.000But the point being though, well that goes for likewise the way I looked at the state
00:34:59.000But the point being is that George Bush has run up a larger debt in a shorter period of time, and there's no recall movement to recall George Bush.
00:35:09.000Of course, we reported it here years ago with Greg Powell at the BBC, but it came out last week and this week that Cheney was involved with Davis.
00:35:18.000Neocons had this whole act like, oh look at Davis, he's bad out there.
00:35:22.000Davis was buying, this was in the Sacramento Beat two years ago, Davis was buying a megawatt for $137.
00:35:27.000I can't remember, was it $137 or $147?
00:35:27.000seven dollars i can't remember was a hundred thirty seven or a hundred
00:35:32.000forty seven the point is i have the article somewhere
00:35:35.000over a hundred dollars a megawatt and selling it back to in ron and others for
00:35:39.000a dollar a megawatt over and over again the i'm aware there's a lot of corruption issues in this is
00:35:45.000the last point i want to make this concerning upgrade a this report
00:35:49.000is that i'm for the people in the state of california
00:35:53.000to have the right to recall their governor if they wish but however i have
00:35:57.000to admit this out i think it's looks a little
00:36:01.000silly since they just reelected him six months ago
00:36:06.000And so, sure, they can recall him, But I have to admit, why did they vote him in in November?
00:36:13.000Well, you've got 10 million illegal aliens voting in that state, so if the liberal establishment said, elect a pumpkin, the pumpkin would be sitting in the governor's chair.
00:36:29.000And look, I see where you're coming from, but look, the reason this story is important is because it's going to start recalls across the country of Republicans and Democrats.
00:36:41.000I mean, just getting people involved is a healthy thing.
00:36:45.000Things have gotten so decadent and so corrupt.
00:36:49.000But the caller does have a good point about the fact that Governor Davis, when you're talking about corrupt individuals, is horrible, but is nothing compared to those in the White House.
00:37:01.000But those in the White House are just puppets, too!
00:37:04.000And then you have the whole study of how the political process has been hijacked by the establishment.
00:37:10.000Look at the ringer, the shill, the foil they throw into this thing.
00:37:16.000Mr. Weiner, or Weiner, Mr. Michael Beatnik, Mr. Trotskyite, Mr. Neocon.
00:37:25.000That's Congressman Ron Paul, not Alex Jones.
00:37:27.000The entire Bush administration is run by Trotskyites, Fourth International.
00:37:32.000So he's a nice little add-on, a little nodule, little creature.
00:37:40.000Mr. Weiner, a mister put anyone in a camp that disagrees with the government, and that's not out of the context.
00:37:47.000He says put people in camps, take their assets if they disagree with the war.
00:37:52.000Mr. Liberal, Mr. Beatnik, Mr. Big Beard.
00:37:58.000I mean, the spitting image of the Beatnik mastermind Up there with his Karl Marx beard and the bug eyes.
00:38:08.000He's going to run as an independent, or he's saying he may.
00:38:11.000And if he does that, folks, that ensures the Democrats get in.
00:38:37.000Yeah, this thing on the terror futures, this seems so bizarre, so eccentric, that I halfway wonder if this might have been deliberately put out there, because I think Joyce Riley, this morning, she said it best when she pointed out that this is now making Congress Well, let me stop you, Mark.
00:39:00.000This is a psychological warfare tactic.
00:39:03.000it's making them look like our guardians and uh... i think the other factor is uh...
00:39:09.000talk about uh... somewhat of a diversion in a distraction to the i think a lot
00:39:14.000i mean it obviously this visit this is really wrong
00:39:17.000uh... you know you stop your mark i said it yesterday
00:39:22.000this is a psychological warfare tactic when when every news show
00:39:28.000morning news and night or seven days straight
00:39:31.000says the this family is full of geniuses it's wonderful they're all getting microchips you can get one said and you'll
00:39:40.000be really cool And then they show sexy chicks saying how wonderful it is.
00:39:46.000I mean, that's in your face and they don't care of applied digital stock drop and people hated it and said, what propaganda?
00:39:56.000Because now, hold on, because now you're still conditioned and made more comfortable and it's been introduced to you.
00:40:03.000It's just like a lion that gazelles see many days in the same spot.
00:40:08.000They get to where they're not so worried about it anymore.
00:40:10.000This is an admitted, I've read their psychological warfare manuals, just the declassified ones, when the military was going to invade Panama in 89 or 88.
00:40:22.000For a year before, they did touch-and-go Delta Force insertions to where the Panamanians thought they were being invaded the first 20 times, and finally they thought it was crying wolf, and when it really happened, no one did anything.
00:40:35.000So, this is on purpose to train you to accept the insane.
00:41:04.000This is admitted psychological warfare operation.
00:41:08.000But then at the same time, I mean really, You know, I'd like to know about the rest of that $3 billion DARPA budget.
00:41:14.000Really, it seems in the grand scheme of things, you know, these mandatory deadly shots they make the troops take and everything, this seems to be a relatively minor thing.
00:41:24.000And if you think about it, people are pretty much shocked just because of how nutty and eccentric it is.
00:41:31.000And so, in a way, it really is a huge distraction from some of the more important things.
00:41:51.000We're about to go to JQ, Dan, and others that are patiently holding.
00:42:00.000But look, I mean, about half the editorials and news articles that I found last night and my wife found this morning and that listeners emailed to us, We're positive!
00:42:14.000There's nothing like the free market to predict things.
00:42:19.000You know, these liberals are just so extreme that they're against this.
00:42:24.000It's not just betting on where our soldiers die, or what U.S.
00:42:27.000city gets nuked by the North Koreans, or will the Israeli Prime Minister be killed, or will Yasser Arafat be assassinated, or will Jordan be overthrown, or will we get run out of Iraq by 2004.
00:42:44.000It also makes it a running man psychological system of desensitizing us and getting us involved in the betting, making it a sporting event.
00:42:56.000So it also has that gladiatorial push that's very strong, not a gladiatorial edge, but a gladiatorial base.
00:43:04.000But really what it is is about the globalists being able to make profits on their inside knowledge right in plain view.
00:43:13.000See, the Federal Reserve is in plain view.
00:44:56.000I think what you're saying is what many are saying, though you said it probably in the best nutshell that I've heard.
00:45:03.000Repeat that again for people out there that may have missed what you just said.
00:45:07.000Well, I don't know if I can repeat it, but it appears to me to be a conscious, well-thought-through effort to put profit into terrorism, is really what they're doing.
00:45:26.000So they know they can block the investigation since on 9-11 the speculation led back to the government and the FBI as being the speculators and that was blocked so they know they can do it.
00:45:38.000Now they can set a mechanism in place that formalizes the process so they can make huge amounts of money betting against The outsiders who don't know when terrorism is going to occur.
00:45:52.000This is what I've been stating in 30 minutes of information that JQ just boiled down here, is they're institutionalizing evil, they're putting it out there in plain view, they're legitimizing it.
00:46:07.000And did you hear my analogy yesterday, J.Q., where I talked about if Alex Jones got teleported back to a thousand years ago to the Aztec Kingdom on the Yucatan Peninsula in what is today Mexico, and I walked over, and they were cutting children's hearts out, and I said, you're crazy, stop it, they would look at me and say, no, you're crazy, because in that land of insanity, that type of bizarreness is normal.
00:46:38.000In psychological warfare terms, they are just flaunting and manipulating everything, conditioning us.
00:46:44.000Ron Paul talked about it in his speech, how the neocons brag that they must train us to, quote, enter into evil.
00:46:51.000That they must train us that evil is good.
00:46:56.000We are having our minds warped and twisted en masse, J.Q.
00:47:00.000Well, the basic process is people compare what they're familiar with with something they've recently heard.
00:47:08.000So if they're familiar with evil, and they hear someone recently saying, oh, well, you're going to condemn evil, then you're the one who's out of place, not the evil.
00:47:20.000They're laying down the baseline of evil.
00:47:22.000So that becomes the experience people are used to.
00:47:25.000Once they're used to that experience... Yeah, people all the time, I'll tell them some horrible information, they go, yeah, I knew that years ago, like, knowing about it, it's like saying, it's like saying, uh, hey, police officer, there's, you know, there's five women chained up in that basement, my neighbor's a serial killer, and the cop goes, I've known about that for years, who cares?
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00:52:00.000Just to add to what you were saying a minute ago, it's a massive redefinition of acceptable behavior.
00:52:08.000Yeah, we're going to have homosexual high schools.
00:52:10.000Well, are we going to have heterosexual high schools?
00:52:13.000A school that's about sexual orientation?
00:52:16.000I mean, even if you're a liberal, and we're all for what the homosexuals are doing, still, you don't have a school that is about someone's sexual orientation, much less a destructive lifestyle.
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00:53:43.000Now, if I knew the day before that the President was going to give a speech that the stock market reacts to, I could make a fortune, too!
00:53:52.000The stock market went down three, four hundred points every time he made a speech.
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00:54:00.000I mean, there's more going on in the currency and pork bellies and all the commodities trading and speculation than there is in the real economy.
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00:54:47.000We'll come back and take more calls, but callers will have to hold because I'm going to, for about 15-20 minutes, we'll go ahead and call the guy now.
00:54:52.000We're going to go ahead and get the head of the Davis recalled.
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00:57:43.000This terrorism betting board is a heartbreaker.
00:57:48.000Oh, the conservatives say that you're a liberal if you're against it.
00:57:52.000Yeah, you know, over the last year and a half or so, I've campaigned to friends and family and virtually everyone I meet about the reality of what happened on 9-1-1, constantly faced with comments that completely ignore the evidence presented and they say things like, well, don't you care that 3,000 Americans died?
00:58:14.000Well now these same people are going to go around and say that it's okay if you betted or if you wagered that such a bad thing would happen.
00:58:24.000And there's zero consistency within the public to react to certain things and it's really, really distressing.
00:58:35.000Well, people make split-second decisions, Scott, to be cowards, and you're not a coward.
00:58:41.000And so they decide that, you know, whatever the system says is good.
00:58:45.000But they're not, number one, the majority.
00:58:55.000And it's exactly because the globalists killed those 3,000 people that we are exposing them.
00:59:00.000You know, they now admit that Roosevelt left 7,000 women and children And civilians on the Philippines so they'd be captured for good war propaganda purposes.
01:00:06.000the tool that i use uh... when i look at it is they introduced the dialogue
01:00:11.000the frame the perception to direct the outcome And...
01:00:15.000And like down here in Colorado Springs, Although we're tabored under Doug Bruce, they use these euphemisms like skip programs to sidestep the spending limitations, and then all of a sudden the bond money disappears.
01:00:34.000And this has been going on down here in Colorado Springs for as long as I can remember.
01:00:42.000Well that's, you know, I mean that's the problem.
01:00:44.000The corruption's gotten so bad they keep getting away with it at every level that they're now just running around basically giggling at us right out in the open.
01:00:54.000Oh, and they'll marginalize you if you try to, you know, you go down and try to talk to the city council and go, they're talking about last year we passed a bond issue for more firemen to support our fire district.
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01:05:29.000I don't buy it for a second from past DARPA activities.
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01:05:47.000We're honored to have Howard Kalugian, the chairman of the Recall Ray Davis Committee on the show and on Infowars.com.
01:06:00.000We have a big link to the Recall Davis official website.
01:06:05.000They've been very successful The governor has basically had people threatened, had his minions threaten people, tried to stop it.
01:06:14.000They implied that it might be illegal or seditious to try to have a recall.
01:06:19.000I can't think of anything better in our republic than recalling an open border promoting, gun grabbing, energy speculating creature like Governor Davis.
01:06:29.000The problem is, are we going to get a neocon like Schwarzenegger, or are we going to get some other Democrat winning?
01:06:37.000Or will a Michael Savage throw it by running as an independent?
01:06:43.000Let's go ahead and go to Howard Kalugian.
01:06:53.000Tell us a little bit about yourself, the zenith of this, how you started it, what the process has been like, and where we're going, and how you see this breaking down.
01:07:04.000I'm an attorney, but don't hold it against me.
01:07:06.000I sought honest employment as a politician, and I was elected to the California State Assembly in 1994.
01:07:12.000Term limits kicked me out in 2000, and I'm working currently with a college doing estate planning, and I saw that the state was going in The wrong direction in just about every category.
01:07:26.000If you look at traffic, taxes, or water, or energy... Well, your bond rating is about what Mexico's is now.
01:07:33.000Yes, everything's going in the wrong direction.
01:08:06.000His party fully owns the state offices, as well as are firmly in majorities in the Senate and in the lower house, the Assembly.
01:08:16.000Uh, and so he's the person who should be held accountable for this, and we want to send them a message through this recall that business as usual has to change.
01:08:25.000Now you got over a million and a half signatures.
01:08:28.000They threw out 300,000, but you still had well over the amount you needed.
01:08:37.000And they verified 1.35 million out of 1.65 million that we submitted to them.
01:08:44.000However, even after that, signatures have continued to come in because, you know, the cutoff date was September 2nd, that we could have gone all the way out to September 2nd and gathered signatures.
01:08:55.000and currently we have over two million signatures in hand, but we're not turning any more in
01:09:01.000because it's already qualified, the election has been called.
01:09:03.000Now, Governor Davis has had his Larrick and Keister folks calling for revolution and breaking
01:09:09.000up the U.S. He's had his minions on TV basically energizing the illegal aliens to go steal
01:09:17.000this election, but let's cover that last.
01:09:22.000If we can, let's talk about the process now.
01:10:23.000There are two questions on the ballot.
01:10:26.000First question, shall Gray Davis be removed or recalled from the office of governor, yes or no?
01:10:31.000And then assuming that 50% plus one vote yes, then the second question would apply, and that is, who among the following list of candidates should replace him?
01:10:43.000Now this is only the second time in the last hundred years this has happened.
01:10:49.000The first time was in North Dakota, and so that really doesn't count.
01:10:54.000But nonetheless, it's been on the books here since 1911 in California, and it's been attempted 32 times before.
01:11:03.000Every governor since the 60s, including Ronald Reagan and Jerry Brown and George Duke Major and Pete Wilson, every governor has had a recall effort begun against him.
01:11:14.000Not once has it ever gotten to the point of actually making the ballot, because never before have we had a governor this bad taking us to the brink of bankruptcy.
01:11:23.000Hey, I tell you, it's getting pretty close in Arizona with conservatives going after McCain.
01:11:29.000Yes, well that could be, but I'm not familiar enough with that situation.
01:11:38.000To have Howard Kalugian, he is the chairman of the Recall Gun Grabber Davis Committee.
01:11:44.000This is the governor that runs TV ads saying, turn your guns in or else.
01:12:14.000Well, every poll puts him at about 20% support, and that's not enough.
01:12:19.000And so what he's doing is he's not defending himself by defending his record.
01:12:23.000He's defending himself by attacking others, saying in typical style that he's used in every campaign before, that the other guy that might face him on the ballot is really terrible, and that his own chief virtue is that he's not the other guy.
01:12:38.000Uh, and then he attacks, of course, the recall process itself.
01:12:41.000So, he doesn't like democracy, apparently, because he doesn't like this idea that the people, that the peasants... Well, he's already thrown out other referendums in the state by the majority of the citizens.
01:12:51.000So, he shows that he has this dictatorial stripe down the middle of his back.
01:12:57.000So, either Davis stays, Or they then vote to have a new election and then it's just everybody is thrown into a giant free-for-all?
01:13:36.000Okay, so the second question of who replaces him doesn't even get answered or doesn't even matter if they tally the votes and it shows that Davis stays, but I guess that'll still be released of who would have gotten elected if Davis wouldn't have gotten removed.
01:13:51.000They will tally all of the ballots for both questions at the same time.
01:13:56.000However, unless the first question is answered by a majority of Californians as yes, Then it doesn't matter who gets the most number of votes on the second part of the ballot.
01:14:21.000And he is from the San Diego area, as am I.
01:14:24.000And he had the vision to see the need for the recall, and he provided the leadership to get it finished.
01:14:31.000The volunteer effort was significant, but it was not able, on its own, to finish up the job.
01:14:36.000Well, he's now being attacked, and obviously he's a lot better than Arnie and the rest of these guys.
01:14:42.000Yes, and I would be supporting Congressman Issa.
01:14:45.000However, I don't think Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to run, and even if he did, he'd have to answer the questions as to what does he plan to do.
01:14:54.000And he won't have a plan, because he really doesn't understand the process very well.
01:14:59.000But frankly, that's a question that all candidates are going to have to answer.
01:15:03.000Senator McQuintock has been there a long time, and he's got several ideas.
01:15:07.000Congressman Issa brings all the business experience that he has in building up a very successful business to bear on the problem, and that will be very useful.
01:15:16.000Well, I mean, I just read the articles and had conservative activists on from the state.
01:15:20.000Uh, that the congressman you're mentioning has a conservative record.
01:15:25.000I mean, Arnold's pro-abortion, anti-gun, and, uh, I mean, obviously, I mean, from studying the guy, he doesn't have a lot of political smarts.
01:15:35.000Also, he's got a lot of skeletons in his closet, literally, and is something that I don't think we want to have.
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01:20:57.000The congressman there in California started the recall.
01:21:01.000And Darryl Issa, from the evidence I've seen in the conservative gun groups we've had on this show, and people who were against the open borders and for sovereignty, they say Issa is the guy to go with.
01:21:17.000They have this Reardon fellow who was the mayor of that city of Lost Angels, Los Angeles, This guy gave money to Gray Davis, Howard was just telling me during the break, and it looks like from the LA Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, that he's already been dubbed the darling.
01:21:42.000How do we stop them from pushing him as the savior here, and how do we get a Darryl Iza elected?
01:21:50.000Well, you know, it's interesting that the newspapers are all scrambling to try to defend their endorsement from the last election cycle, because they were all behind Gray Davis at that time.
01:21:59.000And here it is, now they're coming out against the recall, and if the recall works, they're going to come out for somebody who is similar to Davis.
01:22:06.000And of course, that's where Mayor Reardon comes in.
01:22:08.000Reardon is talking about running for governor, but he's not sure if he's a Republican or an Independent in this election.
01:22:15.000If you don't know that you're a Republican, you're not.
01:22:21.000So, what are the tactics you say, if the recall succeeds, or if it goes forward, Davis is walking around like a crab, all different directions, saying he's going to try different tactics.
01:22:30.000Can he stop it now from going to the ballot?
01:23:07.000He thinks that it's too expensive to allow people to hold him accountable, but I'll tell you, we spend that much money in three hours here in California.
01:23:15.000And so it's really not much money at all compared to the $38 billion deficit compared to the $100 billion we spend in our budget annually.
01:23:24.000And so to fix the problem and to allow our education system to begin to improve, to fix the problems on the freeways by actually building more freeways What about recalling and removing some of these gun laws you've got in your state, or controlling that border, or throwing the illegals off welfare?
01:23:45.000Is that something that the more conservative candidates are going to do?
01:23:51.000It's going to be difficult to address some of the basic issues to begin with.
01:23:56.000But frankly, sending a message to the ruling Business as usual can no longer continue.
01:24:03.000That they must begin to acknowledge the people's will in some of these things is something that is very important as part of the message that gets sent by the recall.
01:24:13.000Okay, when are they going to have the recall election again?
01:24:16.000The election is October 7th and it will consist of two questions.
01:24:35.000Are there any polls out there, and are they reputable polls that you have seen to be accurate in the past?
01:24:41.000And if so, what are those polls showing?
01:24:43.000Who right now would win this runoff election?
01:24:47.000Yes, there are polls out there, and the most reputable of them all agree that Gray Davis is toast, to quote Nancy Pelosi, the congresswoman from San Francisco.
01:24:55.000The idea here is that we no longer have confidence in Gray Davis, and when you ask the question, do you have confidence that Gray Davis can fix the problems that California has, only 9% support him.
01:25:09.000Do they have polls out yet on the other candidates?
01:25:13.000Is a liberal going to win, or is a conservative going to win?
01:25:15.000Well, that's going to be determined by voter turnout, and the polls right now don't say that, because frankly, it's too far out to know.
01:25:24.000The major contenders are Bill Simon, who was the Republican nominee from last year, Congressman Darrell Issa, who had the vision to help get the recall on the ballot, and Senator Tom McClintock.
01:25:36.000And each of those three have a message, and they all agree on at least one thing, and that is that Gray Davis should be removed from office.
01:25:43.000Now, I hope he just... Now, look, Davis is bad news.
01:25:47.000He's a model globalist, but how do you ensure that he just doesn't become a sacrificial lamb and everybody goes, oh, good, we did something, but still all the big government controls continue?
01:26:00.000Well, this is a Democrat-controlled state.
01:26:03.000Forty-four percent of the state is registered Democrat.
01:26:05.000Thirty-five percent is registered Republican.
01:26:08.000The likelihood of Democrats normally being in charge is, well, you know, I've got to say, that's the standard here in California.
01:26:14.000But if there was an opportunity to make the case that Democrats have failed in this state, it would be in this election, because this governor is so bad.
01:27:14.000Greg in Colorado, who I had to cut off earlier, was talking about local bond elections and scams going on with that.
01:27:20.000I don't know about Colorado Springs, though we're on in Colorado Springs, but I do know about Austin, Texas and many other cities we've looked at where they do claim a bond, packages for something, and then, of course, most of the time, not spend it on that or not even spend it, period, just pile cash up All part of growing the criminal enterprise that is government.
01:27:41.000And then we'll go to a bunch of other people, Michael and Bill and many others that are patiently holding.
01:27:51.000Also, if you'd like to talk about the Pentagon betting scheme, but really that would be legitimizing a running man society of betting on dead U.S.
01:28:01.000citizens, dead Israelis, dead Palestinians, dead Iraqis, And there's a lot of articles saying, this is wonderful, this will keep us safe, this is very good.
01:28:10.000And of course, I'll legitimize the globalists betting, doing insider trading on events that they're about to sponsor.
01:28:17.000We know elements of the Pentagon and NORAD and the New World Order ran September 11th.
01:28:23.000That's admitted fact now, and most of the world knows it.
01:28:27.000And I've made two films on the subject and written a book.
01:28:30.000So now they just want to legitimize and institutionalize that.
01:28:33.000They're very good at institutionalizing evil.
01:28:36.000Like 54 million abortions or giant eugenics forced sterilization programs going on until the mid-1980s and still going on under new names like bioethics.
01:28:48.000They're very good at putting deadly poison in vaccines and injecting you and ignoring all the medical data.
01:28:54.000They're very good at putting 6 million kids on Ritalin at one time and 10 million Americans on psychotropics that are deadly.
01:29:01.000They're good at just doing stuff right out in the opening.
01:30:10.000But before I go back to your calls and then into more of this news, if you can comment on the Gray-Davis recall and what that means nationally and how that's probably going to start recalls across the nation, which I think's fine.
01:30:21.000You know, anything that gets some traction going here And starts making the politicians fear for their jobs.
01:30:28.000Of course, they're racing to put in the touchscreens that are hooked into the government and are admitted total fraud devices.
01:30:33.000Oh, I have Denver Post on that right now, by the way.
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01:39:10.000Well, the acceptance of depravity in this country, and we're supposed to be a moral country.
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01:39:44.000The depraved, just like in Sodom and Gomorrah, they came to Lotz's door and said, Give us your children.
01:41:09.000They're hearing torture's okay, and they're hearing government secrecy's okay, and they're hearing they're changing the laws where you can't blow the whistle on corruption to stop the terrorists, of course.
01:41:19.000And see, their minds are being twisted.
01:41:21.000They're not evil people because they're not innately enjoying it.
01:42:13.000they're trying to get their people lined up folks uh... let's it's scary let's talk to michael in las vegas
01:42:18.000nevada go ahead michael thanks for holding
01:42:21.000thank you for taking my call alex you bet sir uh... i had called you a little while ago about a few years
01:42:26.000ago when i asked you about uh... why were you know why
01:42:29.000bush and all these people doing what they're doing with the muslim
01:42:32.000uh... religion And I was asking you, is it because they're doing this to kind of use the Muslim faith to push on their agenda towards the American people?
01:42:44.000We pretty much came to the same agreement that that's what they're doing.
01:42:52.000The Hamas, the Al-Qaeda, all CIA, Mossad, MI6 run, and then you got a Mossad chief controlling an Al-Qaeda chief who then orders the well-meaning Exactly.
01:43:44.000And the other thing that astonishes me about all of this is that Bush, when he first got into office, he was so adamant about not helping out with the peace process in the Middle East.
01:43:53.000And now all of a sudden he had to put his hand in it, which was all by design.
01:43:57.000And then the other thing that kills me about all of this, too, is that he didn't want the United Nations to help him with Iraq in the beginning when he first started talking about war with Iraq.
01:44:05.000He didn't want to go through the United Nations.
01:44:35.000but they have to let the u_n_ act like they're against the war, then let America carry out the dirty work to then make the third world think the U.N.
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01:48:19.000Thank you, Alex, for this opportunity again.
01:48:21.000One other thing, I was going to ask you a question.
01:48:23.000Have you ever heard of this document called the Protocols of Zion?
01:48:27.000Yeah, and it was clearly a propaganda document.
01:48:30.000It was probably, from all the evidence, written by the czars as a political smear piece.
01:48:39.000I mean, it's written like a comic book to demonize the Jews, and it does list many of the systems that governments use, that people like Machiavelli used, and he was Italian, to control society.
01:49:01.000Basically, it'd be like if I put out a document of how to commit crimes and put your name on it, Michael.
01:49:08.000That doesn't mean that organized crime of any ilk doesn't use those tactics.
01:49:13.000People see different groups using those tactics and go, it must be accurate, they're using those tactics.
01:49:17.000Well, that's what governments, whether it's Israel or Germany or or or russia use if you look and that and i understand what
01:49:25.000you're saying but without the air and i think that the metal i know how i do
01:49:30.000they call themselves jews and they are not a jewish one in really not one outwardly just because of a parent now
01:49:36.000these men who call themselves a protocol design like the finest movement
01:49:39.000who is america backing up I mean, every single day, like what Bush was saying yesterday, we're the best friends to Israel.
01:49:45.000And everything that we're doing, like it says in the Bible, that this is going to be the time of Jacob's trouble.
01:49:50.000And if we're in the time of Israel's trouble because we're backing up Israel's thing for their agenda, then we're going to get caught in the same mess.
01:49:57.000And that's what we're seeing today with all this suicide bombing and everything else that the terrorists are trying to do.
01:50:05.000There are cases in the Bible, just historically speaking, where Israel is doing bad things and God says, I'm not going to support you, I'm going to punish you.
01:50:18.000And then I hear these neocon preachers, literally paid for by the World Council of Churches and the Rockefellers, they fly the neocon preachers over to Israel, they pay a lot of them off, this has been in the news, They have business deals, and they come back and they say, you can't go to heaven unless you worship Israel.
01:50:36.000And worshiping Israel is not what you're supposed to do.
01:50:47.000I mean, was David evil because he went after Saul?
01:50:50.000No, he was beloved by God above all others.
01:50:53.000And that's what I love about you, Alex, and I hope all the listeners understand this also, because the information that you have totally lines up with the Bible.
01:51:00.000and the stuff that we're seeing right now and I know you're fighting this cause, you know, to wake up everybody
01:51:06.000and it's a beautiful thing. The people also need to understand that we are that last generation, Alex,
01:51:11.000and I just want to conclude with this, that we need to all get ready.
01:51:14.000The stuff that is spoken of in the book of Revelation is about to happen, like the microchip that you was talking
01:51:52.000A lot of these churches say, lay down, go along with it.
01:51:56.000And I don't know if it's the end of the world.
01:51:58.000All I do is cover the news, but I know they're on the news saying everybody needs a microchip, and we're about to start satellite tracking and taxing you, and everybody needs this ID card, and your global government's here, and artificial intelligence and genetic engineering.
01:53:38.000Welcome into the third hour of this worldwide live edition.
01:53:44.000I know that we have Bill and John and many others that are holding, if you want to join us on air, the toll-free number to do so is 1-800-259-9231.
01:54:34.000You and your guests, all your listeners out there worldwide, I guess.
01:54:38.000You know, I can listen to your show right here in my house.
01:54:43.000What, over a thousand miles away on WLW?
01:54:46.000We cover 38 states at night, and at any one given time we're talking to a hundred million people.
01:54:51.000When you're on there, we take, we stream it of course, and then it goes on the internet, but the other night, Alex, I gotta tell you, when we were on the Real Talk Network, I took about 700 emails the next day When are you going to have him back?
01:56:18.000Well, I can tell you, we know where the calls come from on the internet, and we know about, most of the time, the questions come from, of all places, Washington, D.C.
01:56:32.000And that's that's what we know they're listening and I can't tell you how many times Alex I'll do a topic on a Sunday night and Monday morning it will be run as a A special for one of their leading news rags up there.
01:57:24.000We don't... And you know, Alex, what bothers me about the mainstream media?
01:57:29.000They are the grease for the wheel of the New World Order.
01:57:33.000The New World Order, in order to succeed, needs funds.
01:57:36.000And I spent a lot of time thinking about that.
01:57:40.000And the mouthpiece for the New World Order, of course, is the UN.
01:57:44.000The sooner we get out of the UN, the sooner we stop funding globalist corporations, and the sooner the people decide that they want term limits and start recalling like they're trying to do in California.
01:57:57.000And I'm not so sure that recall is a way to do it.
01:58:00.000But can you tell me where in the Constitution or where any place in law that it gives the President the right To classify documents that you and I pay for.
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02:02:26.000Yeah, I know that Poindexter is a convicted felon.
02:02:29.000I mean, you can't have convicted felons anywhere near securities.
02:02:33.000Well, why would the president want to take tax dollars and fund something like this and then turn around And Stonewall everything about 9-11.
02:03:13.000The guys running it, many of them were involved in the cover-up, in the planning of 9-1-1, to sort of make us think it's something really meaty.
02:03:21.000They go, don't look at this, don't look at this, and they go, alright, you win, look at it, and then nothing's in it.
02:03:27.000I mean, that's so obvious what they're doing.
02:04:45.000We don't know what this genetically engineered foods are going to do to us, our diet, our children, or any of the rest of it.
02:04:53.000We know they're already spreading into all the big weed species, where you can't kill these plants, and the genetically modified corn and soybeans jumping into other plants, and this Texas company ProteiGene put AIDS virus in corn, planted it in 96 locations, and that was in the back of the paper once, Bill!
02:05:11.000Well, you know, I don't think Well, I'll tell you why.
02:05:15.000I know exactly why, and I blame it totally on the media.
02:05:18.000Every time we hear a story break in the media, Alex, you say it and I do too.
02:05:22.000If I say, Alex Jones said so-and-so, or if you say Bill Boucher said so-and-so, we can tie it to a name.
02:05:29.000We hear the media go, sources in Washington, or sources at the White House, tie this to somebody so that we can start having some kind of a You've got to be accountability.
02:06:11.000If I can't put a name to it, or somebody will say, this is off the record, I look at them, and I let them continue the story, and I go, well, thank you.
02:06:19.000Well, wait a minute, Bill, is that off the record?
02:07:47.000David Kelly's story, it's now come out that he was being threatened, dark actors were around him, but day one they said, oh, it's a suicide.
02:07:58.000Your comments on political assassination and how, well, Clinton was never brought to justice for all the murders that went on under him.
02:08:07.000Well, take a look at what's happened in adjacent to him.
02:08:10.000He's one of 20 eminent doctors and biologists and chemists and doctors of the world that have died, all of which have
02:08:21.000been involved in gene splicing, virus investigation.
02:08:32.000And now, we've got an epidemic all over the world of SARS, this, that, and the other, all kinds of plagues.
02:08:56.000It was admitted in the news and then swept under the rug, again using these crises to build up the size of the health departments of the world that are really militarized police arms.
02:09:06.000And, uh, they're an excuse at martial law.
02:09:09.000Now they're building all these big quarantine centers all over the place.
02:09:13.000And key microbiologists in bio-weapons areas are dropping dead, being murdered, being killed.
02:09:19.000Uh, many of them are admitted murders.
02:09:22.000Uh, a guy shoots himself, uh, you know, kind of an Arkansas kind of thing.
02:09:26.000It's, uh, this guy, Miss Kelly, walked five miles out into the woods and then slit his wrist.
02:09:32.000Well, you got this guy in Virginia, and this is the Washington Post, They cut his heart out and carve a pentagram on his back.
02:09:40.000And then that same day, a guy in Tennessee gets killed and thrown over a bridge.
02:09:46.000Well, the interesting thing about it, he got out of his car, left the door open and the motor running, and the lights on, and jumped over the bridge.
02:09:56.000They found him a month and a half later, 300 miles downriver.
02:10:00.000And this Italian Banker who got involved with the Vatican and stuff.
02:10:37.000What really disgusts me about it is that there are pressure organizations.
02:10:42.000I've always said we've got the best government money can rent.
02:10:45.000So what they do, you and I have decided we're going to have a pressure group, so we go to Washington, we write a bill, and then we make a donation to Senator so-and-so or Congressman so-and-so, and he introduces the bill on the floor.
02:11:00.000it's a cut at the reason we can't close the borders alex you and i talked about this before
02:11:05.000we've got drugs coming across the border faster we cal at that body is drug money
02:11:10.000that goes to spend washington and the people
02:11:14.000you know we're fighting the war at some of the country and our borders are wide
02:11:17.000open and where the one separate the tyranny
02:11:20.000of the homeland security Hey, the borders are wide open, but a thousand miles from the border, 200 miles from the border, 4th of July, they randomly pull the cars over, throw the goods out all over the ground, and the kids stand there in the 110 degree heat.
02:11:35.000Watching their parents being violated.
02:11:46.000I agree with much of what you say, but I think in some cases you're turning words upside down and unnecessarily alienating, I think, some allies.
02:11:56.000I don't belong to any organization, but I read from the left Uh, when I can, and from the socialist point of view on the WSWS org website, which I've mentioned to you before, so I would think you would know that they're exposing many of the same types of fascist schemes as the bots of the neocons.
02:12:13.000Yeah, but they say the solution is the loving liberal UN, and that's all part of this elaborate scam.
02:12:19.000No, no, the left and the World Socialist website do not say that.
02:12:24.000They point out that it's nothing but a pawn for these corporate... Well, don't they know that socialism was funded by the bankers?
02:12:31.000The common people back in the serfdom?
02:12:33.000Well, I think that's where you've been really subjected to this kind of psychological warfare, because if it can be dressed up in anti-communist propaganda, I think the neocons ...have been able to act as a Trojan horse among conservatives... Sir, the neocons are admitted trotskyites!
02:12:53.000Well, if you look at the facts, they are... Stay there, stay there.
02:12:58.000I'll talk to you, John, but I'm not going to sit here and have a long, half-baked discussion.
02:13:03.000So stay there, I'll let Bill Boucher's way in, too.
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02:17:26.000We're joined by Bill Beausher, talk show host on WLW.
02:17:33.000And we're honored to have Bill on with us today.
02:17:38.000We've got a bunch of callers here who will be getting involved with us.
02:17:45.000The total free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.
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02:18:01.000Going back to John in Ohio, and jump at any time Bill, John, it's not my opinion.
02:18:10.000The big money financed big government to get us dependent and domesticated, then they blow out the socialist system and transfer it into privatization, which is nothing but organized crime, running it.
02:18:24.000The left thinks big government's the answer.
02:18:27.000The phony right wing thinks that the right wing is against big government when it actually helped author it.
02:18:32.000So it's all a false political spectrum.
02:18:35.000The left doesn't even exist, the right doesn't even exist in reality.
02:18:39.000Bill, do you have any comments to this?
02:18:40.000My only comment is to the caller, I wouldn't take your call.
02:18:48.000If you're going to sit and quote from a socialist doctrine, then you don't need to be on my show because I'm a part of a constitutional onslaught.
02:18:57.000I'm not interested in socialism or anything it's got to do.
02:19:04.000Yeah, what I'm talking about is that some of the very outrages that you're talking about have been exposed by leftist and socialist publications that I read.
02:19:21.000What they're talking about, what I'm saying though, is that I think it's very dangerous because these neocons have dressed up their schemes for destroying the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, plunging us into wars for empire, under the name of anti-communism.
02:19:34.000This has been the decades-long propaganda campaign.
02:19:38.000Okay, let me stop you, let me stop you.
02:19:39.000That's absolutely true, and then here's the twist that proves what Bellin and I are saying.
02:19:44.000Ron Paul read from dozens of their own books and publications the top neocons are Machiavellian first and foremost and they were formed out of Trotsky's Fourth International.
02:20:10.000You can't compute that the enemies all around us, that they're big government people, whether you call them right-wing or left-wing, they want to control the entire paradigm.
02:20:20.000Well, I think you're projecting people like Irving Kristol might have been on the left at one time, maybe as either plants by the CIA or opportunists who then saw that their fortunes could be traded on to become anti-communists, but this does not mean That they're not profoundly... No, today they called for a social welfare.
02:21:05.000The reason I was calling, I've tried getting in a couple times, your popularity is growing and growing and growing and apparently you're upsetting people too.
02:21:13.000My Infowars.com sticker was actually ripped off of my car here in College Station.
02:21:19.000So I guess that's a good thing that you're apparently pissing people off.
02:21:24.000Well, just do me a favor, let's be careful of language.
02:21:26.000A lot of kids listening, but you're telling me that somebody ripped your sticker off.
02:21:31.000Yeah, yeah, I had my InfoWars.com sticker that I had gotten when I lived in Austin and then am now here in College Station and apparently I guess somebody went and looked up the site or knew what you were about.
02:21:45.000Homeland Security is going to base one of its main capitals, kind of its new School of Americas for the American KGB, there with all the gullible neocons, so that's probably why that happened.
02:22:01.000I'm sitting here staring at some of the drills.
02:22:05.000They just recently had a Homeland Security manufacturing consent drill, and then I called up the police department because, you know, the press passes that Chris does.
02:22:16.000I went out there to try and get some footage of something, and they were like, oh, sorry, we were doing it all at the police department, but won't invite you next time.
02:22:25.000I've given them my name and number and everything.
02:22:28.000Well, they do that, Thad, they do that where, I mean, it's in the film The Road to Tyranny, fake bio-attacks, fake attacks, blowing up cars in downtown cities, and then announcing it's real, and then later saying it was just a drill, again, to create that fear.
02:22:44.000Everybody stay there, we'll come back and get Bill Boshear's comment on the fake terror drills leading up to 9-1-1.
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02:24:16.000Bill Boshears, host of a talk show, been on for several years, doing a great job on WLW out of Cincinnati, Ohio, 700 a.m.
02:24:25.000You can hear him Saturday and Sunday nights and also a lot during the week and he also hosts his own syndicated show weekdays.
02:24:32.000Hey Bill, tell them about your website.
02:24:35.000We did some interesting things with the website, because if the liberal government gets back in, which it looks like it's going to be Bush at the polls this time, if it comes in, conservative talk show hosts around the country are going to be looking for jobs.
02:24:52.000So with that in mind, I started doing the internet.
02:24:56.000And we started webcasting, and we put last week on that site 215,000 people.
02:25:13.000And what we've attempted to do is give people the other side of the story.
02:25:20.000With our sources in Washington, as they so often say, we tend to put names and places and dates with it, just like you do.
02:25:28.000And the other part of it is, is that Shortly, this will become, Alex and I hope you'll join me, over the internet, we will put up cameras and video that stream to people that want to see the products you and I talk about.
02:25:43.000They want to see what you and I are doing.
02:25:46.000I'm not crazy, but I've got a face for radio, but the people are asking for it.
02:25:49.000So we said, well, we'll take a look at it.
02:25:54.000Yeah, it sounds interesting, and that way I could have two cameras in my studio, have a split screen, have one of the cameras on a document easel, with the camera zoomed in on the document of the news article, and then the other shot on the broadcast desk, and what I'm doing, and the pile of documents and news articles and bills that you never get through.
02:26:22.000Well, that's why we have InfoWars.com and Net, and I tell you, there is a huge alternative audience.
02:26:29.000About every year, our listenership on the network goes up by 200%.
02:26:33.000One of the places we track it is the Internet, and it's conservatively, conservatively.
02:26:41.000Hundreds of thousands of people, different people, I'm calling from Woodstock, New York, Mr. Jones.
02:26:48.000to the internet screens absolute of this network and there's these other networks
02:26:52.000out there what you're doing bill it shows that the people
02:26:56.000don't want me out on the double liberal garbage they want the truth and i don't
02:27:00.000have to look for some calls uh... let's talk to uh... stewart
02:27:05.000and uh... store recalling a strong point for what you're talking to your
02:27:08.000mister jones would stop new york welcome uh... question for you not to be disparaging uh...
02:27:15.000I only started listening to your show about two years ago.
02:27:18.000What was your background before this show of yours?
02:27:23.000Well, right in college, I started an access TV show and then I went and got a once a week radio show, just out of the blue, fell in my lap.
02:27:34.000The station manager liked my cable show and then it got syndicated about, I don't know, five and a half years ago.
02:27:46.000Bill Gates' background is he dropped out of college and so is Rush Limbaugh's.
02:27:51.000Arnold Schwarzenegger's is he's the son of a Nazi who wants your guns.
02:27:56.000And I'm a 7th or 8th generation, I don't know, 1829, 1830 Texan.
02:28:02.000And I live right here in Austin with my family and I fight corruption and I go, gee, here's the Associated Press Telling us they want to start satellite tracking and taxing us.
02:28:43.000Are you familiar with the organization Liberty Lobby and such?
02:28:47.000Yeah, I think that they've done great work with alternative news and I am familiar with them, yes.
02:28:54.000Oh, because I was under the impression that perhaps you were a spin-off from them or such.
02:28:59.000Well, I think we're all spinoffs of the Bill of Rights and Constitution in 1776.
02:29:06.000People, when I'm on talk shows, will say, are you a John Bircher, or are you a Buchanan Republican, or are you a spotlight person?
02:29:17.000And no, I'm a guy who was going to college here in Austin and heard America was bad, and that guns were bad, and that we were going to get rid of our borders, and the U.N.
02:29:29.000And so I started investigating it and read UN documents and then said, I better warn the people.
02:29:34.000I better go down and get a cable show, which has won Best of Austin three times.
02:29:39.000And last year in the Reader's Poll, it was the Austin City Limits, which is a national TV show to give you an idea of, you know, it's a big deal to win these awards.
02:29:51.000It's defend the Republic from enemies, foreign and domestic.
02:29:54.000But I've always made the point it's not about Alex Jones.
02:29:56.000It's about, hey, the Pentagon wants to have a dead pool running, gambling to cover up for their insider trading on terrorism they're carrying out.
02:30:21.000I'm just going by a rough assumption that most of your independent shortwave radio hosts like storage stations like WWCR and like the Spotlight people are like one of the pioneers of such shows.
02:30:35.000I would say Red Beckman is the pioneer, still living, and people like... There's hundreds of these old-timers, and then there were old-timers they can tell you about.
02:30:48.000I mean, in 1913, there were people getting up and saying, the bankers are taking over, this is a European takeover.
02:30:55.000I mean, Andrew Jackson talked about the bankers trying to take over.
02:31:01.000On the subject, you mentioned Bill Gates.
02:31:03.000You were mentioning a few months ago how you believe the internet is not safe.
02:32:53.000I don't think there's really any safety to any operating system on the internet.
02:32:57.000No, there's just systems that are harder, or let's just say this, Microsoft has back doors in everything, so the doors are open, and with all these different systems, you know, Cobalt and blah blah, there's a hundred different You know, little subgroups, but it's all off the same code, and I have to have my internet people or computer people up to talk about it.
02:33:44.000The moment you become, that you tie a name to a story, Alex, you become a dangerous, a very, very dangerous journalist.
02:33:54.000Be it on the internet, television, whatever it is.
02:33:58.000When you start mentioning names, here's a guy who calls us wanting to know something off the wall about nothing that he just seems to know.
02:34:08.000When people don't know who to tie the story to, or who said it, or why they said it, or why they did it, it looks like bad journalism on their part, and they don't want that.
02:35:32.000And I'm up there at the counter and six months ago they put in two self-checkouts.
02:35:39.000Now they're pulling out more of the service checkouts and now it's about half of the serve yourself.
02:35:47.000And they admit the plan is to finally pull them all out and make you check yourself out.
02:35:52.000And I'm stuck in line because people don't want the self-checkout.
02:35:57.000So I'm in this long line of like 10 people at the service checkout and there's this nice middle-class family standing there with their kids and they're like, man, this is a long line.
02:37:33.000And they admit it, and it's unlimited high-tech and low-tech workers porting in here with carte blanche visas, and once they get here, they can stay.
02:37:43.000And they know we don't want it, they know we're against it, we know it's bad for the economy, but they say, no, it's good, we're going to do it.
02:37:49.000Alex, this week, Congress is debating what, would you get this?
02:39:27.000Uh, some of the researchers that were involved in the research that had trained the Al-Qaeda members came to me and we did a show with them.
02:39:35.000And the guy said, I'm very concerned, Bill.
02:39:44.000They told him, hey, we're going to do it.
02:39:46.000And of course, those Iraqis in Al-Qaeda, it's admitted, again, I've even got news from the LA Times and Washington Post in 1993, were brought in by our government and trained.
02:39:57.000Oh yeah, and he was the one that was doing the training.
02:40:01.000He was the one that was training them at a bioweapons laboratory.
02:40:06.000He came to me, uh... at that what this is happening are not allowed to do
02:40:10.000five years ago yeah this stuff is just incredible and there's so much of
02:40:35.000And it turned out that before they'd had them write scripts about hijacked jets into buildings and how the president responded, and then that's exactly what transpired.
02:40:44.000They've actually, they are writing scripts!
02:40:47.000Isn't it funny that all of this has begun to unravel on them and nobody wants to talk about this.
02:40:54.000All they want to do is, well, we'll classify that.
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02:45:05.000Threats force Breed Farmer into hiding.
02:45:08.000Tony Martin, the guy that got attacked and defended himself, Uh, and, uh, got life in prison when we got out now, and the thieves are threatening to kill him, and the police say, you better not defend yourself.
02:46:21.000They just put it in everything standard and then get you ready for it.
02:46:24.000This has been going on for six years since I learned of it.
02:46:27.000Bill, comments on this giant story and how premeditated this is.
02:46:33.000Alex, what they didn't tell you is that they're going to take that money, as I understand it, and when you go through a federal park that, by the way, happens to be owned By the U.N.