Alex Jones Live from Austin Texas on the 19th of September, 2003. The New World Order is in full effect. Big Brother Media, Mainstream Media, Government Coverups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones, on the Genesis Communications Radio Network.
00:01:01.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:01:05.000We're going to talk about a bunch of news, very important stuff as we chronicle the criminal activities of the global elite, also known as the New World Order.
00:01:15.000And of course, we've got some updates on the family up in Michigan as well, that we'll be getting to after this first break.
00:01:25.000And I'm going to get into, well, the rich got richer, the poor got poorer during this recession.
00:02:56.000And so when you hear me frustrated with listeners, it's generally more frustrated with myself.
00:03:03.000But we're going to have open phones today and we're going to go to them early.
00:03:06.000I always say this and then half the time, don't do it.
00:03:08.000But really, I want to load the phones up.
00:03:11.000And I want to take a lot of calls today on the show.
00:03:14.000Open line Friday, wide open telephones, any news item, any news story in your local paper, national paper, you saw on television, propaganda, you saw on a sitcom or a cartoon or a billboard.
00:03:30.000Give us a call, tell us about it, or what you think the greatest threat is we're facing, what do you think is going to happen with North Korea and the Chinese troops now massing on the border with North Korea and Japan threatening to attack North Korea and North Korea threatening to attack Japan and just this global escalation.
00:03:45.000There's a lot of different issues we can discuss.
00:03:47.000George Bush, Wesley Clark, who's going to be on the tickets here in the 2004 election?
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00:09:27.000Heads of the New York Stock Exchange, they were all at least deputy directors in their past of the Central Intelligence Agency, and I'm looking at a AFP photo from 1999 of Richard Grasso, head of the New York Stock Exchange, hugging the head of the communist FARC guerrillas.
00:09:48.000He went down there, it's not illegal, and they told him, invest your money in the Stock Exchange or you're going to be invaded.
00:09:54.000And when the FARC said, no, we're not going to invest in the Stock Exchange, the invasion began.
00:09:59.000Now, somebody will say, what are you, defending the FARC?
00:10:19.000And they got control of about a third of Some of those countries down there in Colombia and the communist guerrillas have got different portions of some of the other nations down there and they grow their drugs and those are the areas that get sprayed.
00:10:33.000The government of the United States does not spray the other areas.
00:10:38.000It's because you have the so-called right-wing governments in control of those sectors and they grow the coca plants, they grow the poppies, they grow the marijuana, they grow it all and ship it up here.
00:11:56.000But, I mean, Wesley Clark isn't just pro-abortion and a Rhodes Scholar and roommates with Bill Clinton, and they don't have the same New World Order indoctrination programs under British intelligence.
00:12:08.000This guy, also from Arkansas, living in Arkansas, and a late-arriving candidate got push from the Clintons!
00:12:19.000And, uh, this is out of the New York Times.
00:12:22.000Oh, of course, this is their little buddy.
00:12:26.000Behind General Leslie K. Clark's candidacy for the White House is a former president fanning the flames.
00:12:34.000And I wonder if Hillary's gonna be as running mate.
00:12:38.000And all these people that know Bush is anti-gun, and know he's rubbing borders, and know he's increasing the size of government, Department of Education, everything else, protecting Bill Clinton with Farnon Gate and all that, I mean, the thinking process is going to get shut off when we've got just absolute hobgoblins like Hillary.
00:12:55.000I mean, just unbelievably, overtly wicked.
00:13:00.000And Wesley Clark, who's not just a, you know, what you call a liberal, he's also a warmonger.
00:13:49.000If you study Wesley Clark, he's a neocon.
00:13:53.000So he is quite a character and is really the most formidable candidate.
00:13:58.000It's not Dean, it's not Mr. Skull and Bones Kerry, though Kerry has been the frontrunner all along.
00:14:03.000I don't know, what do you think about that issue?
00:14:07.000I mean, really, I don't even know why we should discuss it.
00:14:10.000I mean, it just shows we got Skull and Bones members, we got NATO people, Rhodes Scholar, you know, it's just all these guys have got New World Order baggage in their closet.
00:14:22.000By the way, on InfoWars.com we found another article in the San Francisco Chronicle I would guess it's on presentplanet.com, where they talk about how Schwarzenegger's campaign is, quote, run like a Bohemian Grove toga party.
00:14:40.000There's always these little jokes about the Grove in these West Coast newspapers.
00:14:49.000By the way, I was attacked by the New York Times, what, a couple years ago, two years ago, for Alex Jones believes in the Bohemian Grove.
00:15:11.000They think there's a New World Order and a global government.
00:15:14.000Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But you've got all these neocon listeners that just don't get it, and you try to tell them the truth, and they just can't compete with it.
00:15:54.000lashing North Carolina and portions of other states.
00:15:59.000Lots of images of reporters out in, you know, 80, 100 mile an hour winds being blown around, and pieces of trees hitting them, and folks, of course, drowned.
00:16:13.000Virginia and Path of Fury turns to the north, and faded on radar, but still fierce on the ground, Hurricane Isabel.
00:16:22.000Crashed ashore in North Carolina yesterday, swamping neighborhoods dozens of miles inland and raging through Virginia to the nation's capital with high winds knocking out power and disrupting air travel across the mid-Atlantic region.
00:16:39.000Storms popped sustained winds of 105 miles an hour, snapped old oaks and pines like Waterlogged toothpicks on the outer banks in North Carolina where the storm made landfall about 1 p.m.
00:16:58.000It sent dumpsters floating past stranded trucks along the four-lane highway and parts of at least two hotels and several homes sliding into the wild sea.
00:17:12.000And 160 mile an hour winds that were recorded as it moved across the open ocean, the hurricane was still the strongest hurricane to hit the Atlantic coast since Hurricane Floyd surged the shore in 1999.
00:17:27.000Yeah, it slowed down to like 100 miles an hour, 80 miles an hour, which is really a blessing that that happened.
00:17:33.000Because if that thing would have hit the East Coast at 160 miles an hour, Whoa!
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00:30:31.000Alright my friends, Alex Jones here back live on this Friday edition of the World Wide Broadcast.
00:30:53.000We're going to take a lot of calls today on any issue or topic you'd like to discuss.
00:32:35.000And that's exactly what the big corporations are lobbying for, is bigger government, more draconian power, because that's all selectively enforced against you, the serf.
00:34:39.000Oh, I don't own anything, I'm David Rockefeller, I just have 50 helicopters and 50 jets and servants all over the place and giant palaces everywhere, but they're all part of the foundations!
00:34:48.000The foundations that take federal tax money and steal people's land!
00:36:33.000Okay, and the other thing, I bought a bunch of CD-Rs.
00:36:38.000I got a couple of your videos, of your CDs, but I can't make a copy of them.
00:36:42.000And I don't know if you have a tech person or somebody who might walk me through the process, or... Well, yeah, I authorize and ask listeners, I ask you to make copies of my videos and DVDs and stuff.
00:37:38.000It's like a book with some images, basically.
00:37:40.000It gets a little fuzzy here and there, but that's why my DVDs, for every hundred that go out, maybe one or two don't work.
00:37:47.000It's just that somebody's DVD player doesn't work because it It's an older one and can't handle a double layer or with a double layer sometimes you have just wear compatibility problems.
00:40:12.000It's just, we're going to feed on you.
00:40:14.000And if you're incorporated with them, if you don't know your rights, it's easier for them.
00:40:20.000Basically, claiming you're a state citizen or going through all the common law is like firing your cannons back at them and pulling your sword out as they board you.
00:40:32.000Occasionally, if your ship looks well-equipped and there's not a powerful swarm of an enemy armada, they may move on to some type of cargo vessel that isn't defended.
00:40:44.000Generally, that's what they do is attack smaller cargo vessels, to use the analogy.
00:40:47.000And that's why they go after the weak.
00:40:49.000I mean, what does a predator go after?
00:40:50.000The globalists have a religion of predatory evil, feeding on the weak.
00:40:55.000And so that's why they seek to make us all weak, so they can feed on us more readily.
00:41:00.000And this talked about, if you're in a court with a gold fringe on the flag, that that was actually a commercial law court?
00:42:33.000John Stattmiller aired it on his show a few weeks ago.
00:42:36.000And he said, you know, the good news is this thing's going to fall apart, and we're going to have a depression.
00:42:43.000And he said, enough people are going to be aware that the government caused all this and the private corporations that feed off the government.
00:42:52.000And he said, I think I've seen an awakening that I didn't expect.
00:42:55.000And I think we're going to win this thing.
00:43:29.000They're all serious and I'm, how you doing?
00:43:32.000You know, they have their combat boots, their little outfits on, but I saw another police officer up and he said, oh, Mr. Jones, how's everything going?
00:43:55.000It talked about birth certificates and a child being kind of set up as an asset of a trust registered with the IMF and that the state is the beneficiary of the trust?
00:44:41.000Gun licenses started for black people.
00:44:44.000A license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
00:44:49.000The more I hear about things like that information, and you look at the fiscal policy, and really the 6.4 trillion dollar debt or whatever, these are almost like child abuse tactics.
00:44:59.000I mean, obviously not to direct physical abuse, but a longer term kind of fiscal.
00:45:05.000Well sir, it is now, I've had a congressman on a few years ago about this, it's been in the Sydney Morning Herald, it's been in the AP.
00:45:16.000Almost 34 years ago, all children in the country born in a hospital, they come in and they say, oh, we're taking some blood from your baby seal.
00:45:24.000And they take three big ol' ampules of it.
00:45:58.000Now they've got it in place and they go, oh yeah, we're going to use this now for all of you.
00:46:03.000Oh, and by the way, we've been taking some of the blood and looking for unique proteins and genes, and if you don't own that, we sell that to biotech companies.
00:46:12.000There's a federal court ruling, 9th Circuit, a couple years ago, where they said that when you give blood, the blood bank, a lot of that stuff's getting sold for genetic engineering and screening.
00:46:21.000They take your information and are patenting it.
00:46:27.000I mean, we've had an illegal, criminal, sneaky DNA database for 34 years, now it's in place and they're going, yes, we're going to start a national DNA database, England has said it, from the heel blood, and Canada's saying it, Australia's saying it, oh, we're going to use it for the Bali bombing people, and oh, for all crimes now, your blood, yeah, we did keep it, but, you know, we couldn't tell you about it, we just, It's like, oh, six, seven years ago we put satellite tracker boxes, plug-ins, and all the new cars.
00:47:04.000This is a new thing we just came up with last week.
00:47:07.000And now Applied Digital Solutions, I just saw their PR information yesterday saying they've taken 5,000 orders for the VeraChip this quarter.
00:47:14.000Yeah, it was 2,400 a month ago, but now there's been another several thousand injections of the chip.
00:47:19.000Right, and their deal with Brazil is they have a five-year option that goes up to 75,000.
00:47:26.000And now that IBM's used them as their front.
00:47:29.000Have you ever heard me say they're owned by IBM?
00:47:31.000I've read that information several different places.
00:47:44.000And I don't know what this weird fight is now where they're going, apply digital, suing IBM because IBM's attempting to take control of the company.
00:47:54.000Yeah, I guess they want to, you know, do it out in public, but that's one of those stunning analogies of, okay, IBM helped the Nazis in the concentration camp.
00:48:06.000Put two and two together, please get four.
00:48:08.000I mean, it's stunning to me how much of this information, if people saw it in a movie as a fictionalized version, they'd be like, whoa, that's messed up.
00:48:17.000But when it's presented as nonfiction reality happening in your real life, People apparently, they want to change the channel.
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00:52:24.000We're tracking everyone with cell phones with chips in it.
00:52:26.000We're putting cancer viruses in vaccines.
00:52:30.000We're doing all the things they're up to.
00:52:33.000Splicing humans with crocodiles, and goats with spiders, and humans with cows, and tomatoes that people eat on their store shelves with cockroaches.
00:52:44.000You made a movie like that, people just go, man, that's the most whacked out, incredible, insane, unbelievable, hell, never, that was a nightmare!
00:52:52.000And that's what's... See, I don't have the cognitive dissonance.
00:52:57.000I do get conditioned to where I'm desensitized to it.
00:53:00.000Like, oh, there's another concentration camp article in the Associated Press.
00:54:37.000If you don't consciously listen to this show, and fully, deeply think about the ramifications, Uh, and at all levels of your psyche, it is very bad to listen to this show.
00:54:50.000I mean, I really should be honest and give you a warning.
00:54:52.000Uh, because, you know, I'm just here spewing Uh, just, you know, the lone man, uh, seeing the Matrix for what it is, or they live for what it is, you know, putting on the sunglasses, and basically this is just a howl of anguish.
00:56:54.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:56:59.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:57:05.000Yeah, I was reading a history book, and it talked about A practice that, uh, for punishment, if somebody on a ship wasn't doing their work, they wouldn't just keelhaul them, drag them under the front of the boat.
00:57:27.000They wouldn't just stick them up in the crow's nest for three or four days in the sun.
00:58:04.000You know, it's tough when you go on your rants and the deep sarcasm because, you know, the masses get downtrodden out here.
00:58:12.000It's kind of like when your husband or wife is Down in the dumps, it kind of wears off on you and it drains your energy.
00:58:21.000The more that you're able to take that conscious effort to stay civil and be upbeat, I know it's hard to candy-coat all this, but like you say, those first-time callers that tune in and then hear you just going totally off the handle, it's tough to stay tuned at that point.
00:58:45.000So I'm being friendly and I feel better and the listeners all feel happy.
00:58:49.000I was given that advice by a good individual and I've taken it and I've done this myself from time to time.
00:58:56.000Notice when I'm being grumpy and it's just, it's just, it's so disgusting.
00:59:00.000And let me tell you, It is a subconscious tactic to be over-the-top, to really tell it like it is, to not sugarcoat it, because that does, with a lot of people, break through and shock them like cold water, or slap upside the head into waking up.
00:59:16.000So overall, it's a good thing, but I do overdo it, and it does affect me.
01:00:05.000The only thing I've found is, if you have a water softener, you absolutely do not want to run softened water through that, because it's like running salt water through it, and it just does not work.
01:00:14.000So you've got to run straight well water through those filters.
01:00:18.000The thing about that is, though, is Jim Shelton also advertises that you're torturing water for five to ten minutes.
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01:05:17.000We have Mr. Blood, a great researcher and broadcaster covering the New World Order, joining us in about 22 minutes.
01:05:26.000And of course, earlier in the last hour, we're about to go back to your calls, I mentioned this Associated Press article, US rich Got richer in 2003, Forbes says.
01:05:42.000And, again, the neocons will have a heyday with this.
01:05:46.000They'll go, these evil liberals, they're all jealous of this money that was gotten through hard work in the American way.
01:05:57.000They want to use class warfare to pull down all of these wonderful good people.
01:06:07.000History shows that, yeah, you can become wealthy, you can become successful by inventing something or by working hard, but you don't get to the pinnacles of power.
01:06:17.000You don't get in the top one-half of one-tenth of a percent, you know, the top hundred people in the country by playing tiddlywinks with people.
01:08:56.000You're not rich and powerful and on the real power list, it's never listed in Forbes by the way, low-level middle-class minions are of the elite, unless you own major stock and controlling stock in central banks.
01:09:10.000Now we're about to go back to Jeff and Leslie and Ron and Bob and John, but I just want you to think about that.
01:09:20.000I mean, here it is, the proof, the paradigm.
01:12:59.000The Bush family owns triple-hull supertankers.
01:13:04.000Buildings in downtown Houston, banks all over Texas, golf courses, sports teams, professional sports teams, and Parade Magazine says Bush is worth a million dollars.
01:13:22.000Yeah, you should have him back on again, Larkin Rose, and possibly Thurston Bell from uh... night dot org uh... if you can't say too much isn't
01:13:33.000joined right now but it would be nice to hear from on the show
01:13:37.000you can talk with them uh... another thing uh... are you aware of a dollar hedge
01:13:43.000money uh... are you ever heard that term before
01:13:47.000what hedging money No, dollar hegemony.
01:13:56.000And it's been espoused on the internet.
01:13:58.000I've read several articles about the... See, Sondland was saying back in November 2000... Yeah, it was dumping in for the gold denar.
01:14:06.000No, no, what he was doing, he had the UN re-denominate the price of its oil, going through the oil for food program.
01:14:16.000That basically OPEC as a whole is looking at going to the Euro to denominate the price of the oil.
01:14:27.000And this is a threat to the dollar because central banks around the world hold dollars to pay for dollar denominated debt and to pay for oil denominated in dollars.
01:14:36.000That's what George Soros, who's a Rothschild agent and others are saying.
01:14:41.000And a lot of people are out saying this, and at a certain level that story's true, but George Bush wouldn't come out and say a dropping dollar's good, and they wouldn't have Snow and the guy before him badmouthing the dollar for three years straight if they didn't want a low dollar.
01:14:58.000Europe controls America like a finger puppet.
01:15:26.000So it's, you know, a two-headed hydra.
01:15:29.000And the bigger head, the Arabs all just ran into the mouth of the hydra's, you know, teeth for safety from the evil American hydra that's snapping at them.
01:15:40.000You ever seen the old Tom and Jerry cartoon where the cat opens its mouth like it's a mouse hole?
01:15:45.000And you know, puts the little sign up, you know, that it's a restaurant for mice?
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01:21:53.000Well, I wanted to tell you, I was in a gun shop about a week ago, and I heard a couple of detectives talking to each other, and there was a case One of them was involved in maybe two weeks before that where a woman was... a guy attempted to rape a woman and she pulled out a 9mm and held a gun on the guy and dialed 9-1-1 on her cell phone and when this one detective got out to the place where this woman was at he discovered that she did not have
01:24:21.000These guys mentioned that they had learned a lesson well from Waco, Texas.
01:24:28.000That was never to present themselves in A large group that could be easily targeted.
01:24:35.000So what they've done with the militia in Tennessee apparently is to break up these larger militias into cells of five or six members, pretty much following the tactics of Al-Qaeda, so that one cell can't Well, again, Wesley, Al-Qaeda is the CIA.
01:27:38.000in Rhode Island, one of our great affiliates, they carry, I don't know, 12 plus hours a day of the GCN radio network lineups, starting when, well, he was with another big station steering this show, well, the great folks over there at the radio station.
01:27:54.000We have one of their hosts, host on the line with us, I've been on his show, one of my favorite hosts over there, and that's Jack Blood.
01:28:01.000And a lot of other great talk show hosts locally there on their station.
01:28:05.000We're going to plug that website and tell you about it.
01:28:07.000And I was talking to Jack Blood and some of the other folks at the station this morning and I figured I wanted to get him on the show.
01:28:18.000And hopefully our listeners over here in the New England area, good people, will see that if I get out live they can call into your show and do the same.
01:28:26.000We've gotten actually quite a few calls from Yeah, we are scaring the competition, as always.
01:28:31.000and I know that your station's going gangbusters.
01:28:33.000You've even partnered with some of the big newspapers there, and listenership is just exploding
01:28:38.000and beating the pants off the competition.
01:28:42.000Yeah, we are scaring the competition, as always.
01:28:44.000In fact, you mentioned when we were down the dial with you there, really did a great thing
01:28:49.000for the New England area and for people.
01:29:30.000listeners who want to get involved and cause her a little grief, go down there, maybe do a little protest, ask her what her socialist plans are.
01:29:39.000I don't know if you're aware recently, I just read this in the BBC Alex, she had a big news conference to put together a nationwide system where anyone could telephone 211 to be connected to social services.
01:29:56.000There's a big article in the Austin American-Statesman today about how wonderful this is and how they need more funding for the hotlines to tag along everyone and take more children.
01:30:05.000I mean, the millions they take every year, millions, folks, isn't enough.
01:30:09.000Yeah, George Clooney is also on board with this, trying to support it.
01:30:12.000And I've heard some interesting things about Hillary Clinton as well, that she's planning to get into this presidential race, Alex.
01:30:19.000You think she's going to run as a VP with Wesley Clark?
01:30:23.000They're saying Wesley Clark will be her VP.
01:30:28.000Well, you're right there in Rhode Island with all the big elite folks.
01:30:33.000We're not one of them, or any of them.
01:30:35.000Well, no, I know that, but I mean, you certainly have got your ear pretty close to the source.
01:30:39.000Yeah, well, I mean, you know, we're here with Brown University, some of the top universities, one of the top art universities is also here in RISD, and I've got to tell you, one thing, you know, doing this radio station and being involved with management of the station, you know, we really see a change in the environment and the thinking of people in general, and I can, you know, this is why we're working with big newspapers in the area, why they're amenable to putting a link to our website on to their
01:31:08.000newspaper sites and and even the newspaper editors in the local people uh...
01:31:13.000that we could help us are opening their minds a little more in this is you know
01:31:17.000a product of this war on terrorism this patriot act environment
01:31:32.000No new terror laws after they're introduced.
01:31:36.000When they say they're building emergency camps, when they say they're going to have a national draft for professionals, when they say your new cell phone tracks everything you do, and oh yeah, your digital cable can listen to you, and oh yeah, we're going to tax you with your OnStar, when that happens, a lot of people are finally starting to wake up.
01:31:54.000Yeah, I mean, if you push, this is the thing, and a lot of people get discouraged, you know, what the New World Order is doing, what they've been doing for decades, if not millennia, You know, they could discourage what will never win, and this is the thing I hear that discourages me, when people say, I can't do anything about it, I know all about this, I know about the corruption, but I can't do anything about it.
01:32:15.000But the fact of the matter is, the human spirit is indomitable, and I don't believe the New World Order will ever take over with their centralized government as they plan to, because the human spirit is indomitable, and we're seeing that human spirit rise up here in New England.
01:32:32.000I heard a talk show host Uh, who's on here in Austin, Johnny Rowland.
01:33:07.000And then other plans are working out, which, you know, hey, they may get desperate and we have to kind of be prepared for that, and I think that's the key thing, Alex, is just being prepared.
01:33:18.000You want to have an escape plan, and you very well might need that escape plan, but I do have a very positive outlook in the big picture.
01:33:28.000Well, you've got to have that positive outlook.
01:33:30.000It's just when you realize how truly megalomaniacal these people are, it's amazing.
01:33:35.000Let's talk about Wesley Clark, then let's go back to the calls, Jack.
01:33:39.000Wesley Clark, they're now saying in the New York Times, yeah, he got told by the Clintons.
01:33:44.000Late arriving candidate got pushed from Clintons.
01:33:47.000That's the headline in the New York Times.
01:33:49.000And of course, he's Rhodes Scholar, former head of NATO, tried to start World War III with the Russians, according to the BBC.
01:33:58.000I mean, this guy, Wesley Clark, is really something else, but it doesn't matter!
01:34:03.000I mean, you've got George Bush skull and bones, Kerry skull and bones, you've got this guy running around, I mean, do you see any candidate that's favorable to you?
01:34:13.000You know, in the beginning I had liked Dennis Kucinich, but...
01:34:21.000And I've got to say, nobody gets through the DNC, nobody gets on the Democratic ticket.
01:34:26.000If not through the Clintons, they control, they put Terry McAuliffe in charge of the DNC and the fundraising for the Democratic National... Yeah, the Clintons are the Karl Rove of the Democratic Party.
01:34:37.000That's right, and no one's going to get through without them, and that's why I think, really, you know, they're beating down Bush, they're tearing him apart, all these people getting the bad publicity, the negative press.
01:34:48.000You know, Ted Kennedy came out today saying it was, I believe he said it was a Texas plot, a conspiracy, he might have said, in the Texas invention.
01:34:58.000And let's just be honest, I mean, Bush is as blue blood as it gets and is always hanging on Ted Kennedy.
01:35:03.000Yeah, Bush is a blue blood from Connecticut.
01:35:34.000But I do want to say, you know, let's keep our eye on Hillary Clinton, because there's no doubt in my mind, not only is she a socialist and working with the New World Order on the highest level, but I hear a lot of rumors about mind control and some of the things she's involved in, and that's the last person.
01:35:51.000I mean, I don't mind seeing a woman get in there, Alex, but that is the last person we need right now, and she is setting it up.
01:35:56.000Hillary Clinton is tailor-made to walk into Hollywood and get starting roles as the Chief Witch.
01:36:03.000I mean, Harry Potter movies is what she should be in.
01:36:06.000I mean, the lady just radiates, just is a rat-like creature.
01:36:11.000But again, I know these neocons are going to be on the air going, Alex, I know Bush ain't perfect, but come on, Hillary!
01:36:22.000Again, they say, well, you've got to vote for the lesser of two evils.
01:36:25.000I've given the example of them telling you to drink out of, well, this glass has five Yeah, I mean, I almost don't mind if Bush stays in, mainly because I know what he's all about, I know what to look for, and I know how to work with the guy.
01:36:46.000I mean, somebody else comes in, you get a Democrat in especially, a lot of people are going to go to sleep and, you know, it works the same thing.
01:36:53.000They like to switch it back and forth.
01:38:23.000Well, the one that I can't remember the source from, maybe you guys can bring me up a reference on this, but I had read or heard that West Nile's iris was, in fact, the CIA gift to Saddam Hussein.
01:38:37.000That was in the Buffalo News, a really detailed article about a 94 Senate report by Alphonse D'Amato.
01:38:42.000Botulism, West Nile, weaponized anthrax, Sharon, VX, everything.
01:38:49.000What I'm curious about is how come no one in this Homeland Security stuff knows, there's been no mention of perhaps that maybe there's been some spreading of this, because this virus has spread from coast to coast in what, two years?
01:39:02.000Yeah, and I mean, it went from just a few people dying to hundreds dying now, and there was an article that 35,000 people could have it in Colorado.
01:39:14.000Colorado now leads in the deaths of West Nile, and then also the cases.
01:39:19.000That's some kind of a profile that they pulled from blood donors as to who actually has been exposed, and it's an unreal number.
01:39:27.000Let me get a comment from Jack on that.
01:39:29.000Well, you know, great information on this type of thing is, if you don't mind me plugging, Len Horowitz and tetrahedron.org.
01:39:37.000Len Horowitz has been exposing, you know, West Nile virus, AIDS, SARS, there's some good work on SARS, and, you know, the guy was, he studied diseases at Harvard and how the media handled that, and he's a real expert, so tetrahedron.org, there's a lot on that.
01:39:54.000Well, he also brought it out, it was later made in the AP, there was a There was a congressional funded deal out of the National Security Council funding arm, the How to Mail Weaponized Anthrax to the Mail, and then that was in 99, it led right back to Fort Detrick.
01:40:08.000He broke all that, then it came out that it really was this, they've named this Israeli everything, but nothing's being done.
01:40:14.000They're going after Hatfield as the scapegoat.
01:40:17.000Yeah, war, disease, suicide, teen suicide.
01:40:21.000I mean, all these things are meant to back up Ted Turner's statement.
01:40:25.000You know, he wants to get the population of the planet Earth.
01:40:32.000Would be ideal, he said in Audubon Magazine.
01:40:34.000And of course, I just want to say, too, that this insurgence in Iraq, I don't know if you've given any thought to this or done any research, but to me this is so obviously staged, this insurgence that they have over there.
01:40:46.000That's their excuse to keep troops in, and then Shalibi, the admitted bank robber and torture expert who worked for the Shaw, runs things for the Bushes.
01:40:56.000And anybody that's caught selling stuff without a license from Halliburton is getting a bag put on their head and taken to a camp.
01:41:03.000Folks, again, that's the Associated Press.
01:41:05.000And then with all of this going on, Chalibi goes, yeah, there's about to be a bombing at the U.N., ha ha ha, blows up.
01:41:11.000I mean, oh, and they kill this Shia guy who'd been in Iran, and they try to say Iran killed it.
01:41:17.000That'd be like Iran cutting off their own right hand or something.
01:41:21.000It's ridiculous, and anyone that buys it, I think they need to go check themselves for mind control.
01:41:27.000But again, 70% of people don't know where Iraq is, Jack, and so when we tell them that Iran doesn't kill their own agents that are taking over, it's just ridiculous!
01:41:36.000And George Bush came out recently saying, now he says there is no connection of Iraq and 9-11.
01:41:42.000I never said there was a connection, there never was, Cheney says it.
01:41:47.000The thing is with that, that's most interesting, that to me looks like the big lie that the Nazis did.
01:41:52.000Because the thing is, you say something, or you don't say it, and then you let it perpetuate for a few years, and then that's the truth.
01:41:57.000And everybody in the United States believes that.
01:42:21.000I used to be a big fan of that for about a year after September 11th.
01:42:27.000And I just couldn't wait to vote for Bush.
01:42:29.000And when he landed on the aircraft carrier, I thought that was so great.
01:42:33.000And some friends showed me your videos, and it was pretty conservative and right-wing and stuff, and it took me a while to accept those things.
01:42:40.000But once I did, I could really see Fox News for what it is.
01:42:44.000is you know bush uh... new world order propaganda central i mean it is actually
01:42:49.000run by the military my friend and uh...
01:42:53.000yeah actually i like watching it uh... to get their slip up like uh... last night and i recorded it on uh... v_h_s_
01:43:01.000at the end of brit hume show brit hume said you know
01:43:05.000thanks for watching fox news fair and balanced
01:43:34.000They run around in conservative outfits.
01:43:36.000I don't know how to... And again, I don't get into pinko all that, but I'll just use a term that, you know, the so-called conservatives can understand.
01:44:22.000And, um, he was talking on and on, blah, blah, blah.
01:44:26.000And where he should have said weapons of mass destruction, he accidentally slipped up and said, you know, blah, blah, blah, weapons of mass control.
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01:48:24.000Mr. Blood from W.A.R.L., one of our wonderful affiliates up in Rhode Island, 1320 A.M.
01:48:31.000I want this guy to get a show on our network because he's very informed of the New World Order.
01:48:39.000We need more voices out there reaching people across this land to link up.
01:48:44.000When I went down to Houston last week on September 11th and we sold out the movie theater that held over 300 people and had to turn away hundreds, Folks are going, I can't believe there's this many people.
01:48:57.000No, we actually are one of the largest groups, that is, folks that believe the world is round, in the world today.
01:49:05.000We know there's a world government when they say it on the news.
01:49:07.000We read the newspaper where they say our courts are going under the UN, you know, and then we admit that to ourselves, and we admit there's space scanning cameras, and we admit that, again, that the sun comes up in the morning.
01:50:04.000You know, the CIA covertly runs the touch screen companies.
01:50:07.000They have meetings and talk about how to suppress you and it's been recorded by major newspapers but hasn't become a national story and, well, we're just taking your right to vote away now.
01:50:15.000Yeah, it's absolute mind control of the American public, which is obviously what they set out to do.
01:50:20.000Though, you know, you have a lot of people that are awake, millions of people listening to you.
01:50:24.000We have, you know, tens of thousands of people listening to our station, you know, in a given week.
01:50:29.000Why can't we get a little bit more involved in that?
01:51:35.000Well, I guess the issue and the question I had is, what ministries are there to ministers or preachers regarding what's going on to try to get them more activated and interested Even the 10% that are in what we call unregistered churches, which are... You just gotta educate them.
01:51:53.000They don't know how serious things are.
01:52:09.000One thing I noticed when I first started waking up to all of this, and I would go talk to people on the street, you can give them all the facts you want in a conversation, but these people are so mind-controlled, you literally need to treat them as if they've been abducted by a cult.
01:52:24.000You need to take them somewhere for a week.
01:52:26.000And deprogram them, but institutions like your radio show, like our radio station, W.A.R.L.
01:52:32.000here, the American Free Press, many of the websites around, the great books that are published, these institutions of unlearning, let's call them, really are the key to unlocking the mind control of America.
01:52:45.000Well, you know, I find that... I tell you what, stay there, my friend.
01:52:48.000I tell you, this jockblood's on fire, isn't he?
01:53:44.000Tell your friends and family about the show, about the affiliate you're listening to.
01:53:48.000On, internet, shortwave, AM, FM, one of our great affiliates, W-A-R-L, 1320, and they're in Rhode Island.
01:53:55.000We have one of their, well, most prolific and insightful talk show hosts, Jack Blood on with us, and a bunch of callers.
01:54:03.000I want to go quick to these calls and finish up, because we've got Bev Harris coming up about election fraud and stealing the right to vote away from you.
01:54:11.000Jack, continuing with the comments from Clyde Nevada.
01:54:15.000Real quick, Clyde, you had one other point.
01:54:17.000Well, I just wondered if there's any kind of a ministry that any of your listeners even know about that's to ministers, because they'll listen to fellow ministers a lot more than they would to lay people.
01:54:27.000Is there a ministry to them to try to wake them up?
01:54:29.000Yeah, you're saying it's important to get the preachers woken up, and there is a lot of preachers out there, gentlemen.
01:54:33.000Look at Tex Mars, look at Pastor Butch Paul, and others.
01:54:47.000I was having a little bit of a personal endeavor last night, kind of distressing, talking to someone very close to me who's in second year of law school, trying to mention some of the things that I've learned from your show.
01:55:01.000Most of the things you've said that I've been interested in, I've gone and got the Associated Press article or whatever off the internet.
01:55:07.000Yeah, like getting rid of attorney-client privilege, trying to get rid of juries.
01:55:12.000okay i don't growl yet the university of texas law school tell them
01:55:16.000juries are needed it's a the constitution to luxury go ahead
01:55:20.000okay again uh... i i really would like to what what names that plug into a google
01:55:26.000or whatever to find this information about that well i guess what you're calling about that i
01:56:39.000You know, also, the problem we have, and when you're talking about, you know, churches and them being, you know, under the 501c3 and taking money from the government, I mean, we have no leaders.
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02:02:23.000This is the same government that says 1,900 times the so-called safe level of DU for our troops to breathe is good, but they want you to not be able to buy that vitamin C. And by the way, Europe's already done this, by the way.
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02:02:38.000And everything that's happening destroys liberty and freedom, destroys our constitutional republic.
02:02:47.000Cleveland's big newspaper, Voting Machine Controversy, Columbus.
02:02:52.000The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a fundraising letter that he is committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.
02:03:04.000The August 14th letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Incorporated, who has become active in re-election effort for President Bush, prompted Democrats this week to question the proprietary And, uh, of allowing O'Dell Company to calculate votes in the 04 presidential election.
02:03:25.000O'Dell, it goes on, attended a strategy powwow with wealthy Bush benefactors known as the Rangers and Pioneers, and it goes on and on.
02:03:35.000She said she was breaking the major news because she's a lady who's been hired by Fortune 500 companies to expose corporate corruption in their own systems.
02:03:43.000They found Diebold and other big companies.
02:03:45.000They looked at the source code of Diebold and others.
02:05:31.000Or they take it and say, there's been a few problems, don't worry, the feds are going to fix it.
02:05:35.000Oh no, no, this is really interesting.
02:05:37.000But yeah, we've got stuff to break and I guess what we'll do is we'll break it here and then people can watch for it in the news in the next few months as they have been.
02:05:48.000Yeah, one of the things that I found absolutely stunning was of course, well we've known that the Diebold executives have been a major Major political folks behind the Bush administration.
02:06:02.000It's not just Wally O'Dell, it's also W.H.
02:06:04.000Timkin, who is another director from Diebold.
02:06:07.000Now understand that Bush has only about a hundred pioneers.
02:06:10.000The Bush pioneers are the group that kind of meets behind the scenes and are the powerhouse political strategists and fundraisers for George W. Bush.
02:06:20.000Two of the hundred Bush pioneers run Diebold.
02:06:56.000Now, by the way, for those that don't know, last time you were on a few months ago, and now it's broken, I mean, Baltimore Sun, you name it, Austin American Statesman, everything you said here on the show, that it's got wireless connections to the boxes they didn't tell anybody about, there's these three different levels of codes, the hundreds of top programmers looked at it and agreed with your programmers, That these things are designed for backdoor access, and then the League of Women Voters is out campaigning that the government pass a law that we not be allowed to have a paper ballot.
02:07:28.000Well, exactly, and here's what's happened.
02:07:30.000They've gone after, what they did was they went after a few of the organizations, but they went at them from the top down, and they do not represent, by the way, what their own constituency says.
02:07:41.000Because we've been in contact with many of the League of Women Voters' local chapters and they're furious about this.
02:07:47.000They're saying, no, we want a paper ballot.
02:07:50.000We are not throwing away the evidence.
02:07:52.000And what's happened is I believe what we need to do now is start looking at the contributions to these organizations.
02:07:59.000Because I'll betcha that they went to the head of the League of Women Voters and to a couple other organizations and made hefty contributions.
02:08:07.000I also just found out today, now we are starting to get into the civil rights community with this.
02:08:13.000And they're implying that the civil rights community is behind this no paper trail voting.
02:08:19.000What they're doing is they're quoting this Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, which, by the way, has backed away from that position and is not even saying now that they are against a paper trail.
02:08:31.000But the voting vendors got to them, got a statement out of them.
02:08:35.000But when we looked at the constituency of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the people who were jumping in were not the people of color.
02:08:49.000They were the League of Women Voters, who happens to be a member.
02:08:52.000Okay, for folks that are missing what you're saying that is.
02:08:58.000The establishment, the three voting machine companies, all CIA, government, senator connections, I mean, just unbelievable.
02:09:05.000With all the code source and all this, you know, corruption going on, that these are designed for this, they claim, oh yeah, well, the minorities want it, so you're racist if you're against it, which is just their classic tactic.
02:09:17.000But I would also add to this that we've only in a few cases have we seen attempts at censorship of this show and others.
02:09:24.000And when they were putting in electronic touchscreens last year, and we confronted them and exposed it, we had actual threats, phone calls, attempts at censorship on this issue by quote, members of the media here in Austin that are steering this and that were steering this into place.
02:09:40.000So this is very important to them because they know this means total control and domination.
02:10:21.000And now on top of it, six major investigative journalists call you and say, I'm not allowed to report on this.
02:10:27.000Right, and it's so funny because they'll say, please keep sending me this stuff, and I wish I could break this, because there's something to break.
02:10:33.000I could get a Pulitzer out of this, you know?
02:10:36.000And they're like, but, you know, I'm not, Every time I put my proposal forward, it's not getting taken up on.
02:11:00.000And it's not their producers that are killing it.
02:11:02.000It's getting killed at management level.
02:11:03.000Well, Bev, right here in Austin, right here in Austin, Bev Harris, Danita Dubois, the county clerk, She got caught in 98 with the paper ballots, double counting ballot boxes, breaking safety seals, falsifying signatures.
02:11:16.000That was in the paper, but the state board said it was, quote, an accident.
02:11:20.000In the middle of the night at 2 a.m., her good friend that was losing suddenly was winning.
02:11:25.000This all comes out, and now she's the one pushing the touch screens.
02:11:53.000My publisher, David Allen from Black Box Voting, he runs Plan 9 Publishing.
02:11:58.000He managed to get into this and it was actually quite funny because they had all this supposed security around their teleconference.
02:12:05.000But he actually dialed in and he signed in with his own name and no one asked him who he was.
02:12:11.000So he sat there and transcribed this meeting.
02:12:15.000And this meeting, which was between, understand, it was an insider meeting.
02:12:20.000What they were discussing, among other things, was can Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, defense contractors, you know, can they help us with our PR problem now, like they helped get the HAVA bill through?
02:12:34.000The HAVA bill is the bill that requires that we buy all these new touchscreen machines.
02:12:39.000I gotta stop you, we're about to break.
02:12:41.000They just said this is insiders saying and admitting that the defense industry was behind getting this bill through.
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02:17:28.000Investigator Ben Harris just dropped a major bombshell on us.
02:17:35.000The news she reported here a few months ago is now a top story in a lot of big newspapers, but it never made it onto the nightly television news where most people get their propaganda We talked to the head of Caspian, the group that exposes the whole cashless society and what's happening with the tracking there, about the secret meetings with the biometric consortium, the RFID consortium, with Governor Ridge of quote, making us take it in the name of fighting terrorism.
02:18:04.000We know that Lockheed Martin and others are involved in funding Domestic propaganda operations.
02:18:17.000You're telling me, the military industrial complex, that in this discussion group, this closed, secret conference, That you guys got into, Bev Harris, that they were discussing using the military-industrial complex to smash opposition to this.
02:18:38.000Please tell us, please give us the details.
02:18:40.000Yeah, what happened is they set up, okay, well as we all know, we've been getting a lot of press for the problems, and part of that comes from, well all of it comes from, the fact that we were able to find the cache of Diebold files, the Diebold voting machine files, 40,000 files they left on a website.
02:18:57.000We were able to analyze those and find how incredibly flawed they were and that indeed they do appear to be set up just specifically to allow backdoor entrance into manipulating the vote.
02:19:10.000Well, that's made the papers and of course now the industry has kind of a black eye and they're trying to think of any way they can to get out of offering a paper trail.
02:19:31.000So, the industry had a meeting to figure out what to do about this PR fiasco.
02:19:37.000In the meeting, it was set up, by the way, very inappropriately by the election center, which is supposed to represent the voters and the people, set up a meeting with a lobbyist and the vendors to deal with this PR problem.
02:19:52.000The lobbyist that was running the meeting was the ITAA.
02:19:56.000It's a series of initials that stands for a bunch of things.
02:19:59.000Suffice it to say, it's very tightly connected to another bunch of initials, SAIC, which is a big Pentagon contractor.
02:20:12.000Let me draw this loop for you, and I'm sorry to have to come up with things with initials, but the military likes to do things with initials.
02:20:21.000Diebold's software is exposed to be flawed.
02:20:25.000They then get the state of Maryland and the state of Ohio to request a supposed independent investigation of Diebold's security.
02:20:34.000They commission a group called FAIC to do the supposedly independent evaluation of Diebold's voting machine security.
02:20:42.000The SAIC is mainly a Pentagon contractor.
02:20:45.000It's sort of like a mercenary version of the CIA in much of what it does.
02:20:50.000It's like a corrupt five-time convicted felon who is the informant who they then call in to testify against you in court and you can't bring up the fact that it's a convicted felon with charges against him and if they don't testify they're going to jail.
02:21:07.000So it's some government owned and run quasi-public private group.
02:21:10.000Oh, it's a private group that does C.I.A.
02:21:15.000It does surveillance and it does all kinds of things like that.
02:21:17.000Oh, what a nice group to tell us Diebold is good!
02:21:20.000Yeah, it's basically a mercenary C.I.A.
02:21:23.000that does other things too, but their job is to come up with the report on Diebold.
02:21:29.000Except their senior vice president is the director for the I.P.A.A., which is in there saying they're going to lobby to whitewash this whole thing.
02:21:40.000The supposedly independent Pentagon contractor who's supposed to do an independent evaluation of Diebold security, they're tied to the lobbying group that is promising to whitewash this thing.
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02:23:34.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:23:45.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:23:52.000My friends, I want you to understand the magnitude of this.
02:23:59.000In my own life here in Austin, the people running this system have threatened us, tried to keep this information from going on the air.
02:24:08.000They've got the local media involved on the board of this, profiting from it.
02:24:16.000And then you look at it nationally, they have all these top computer programmers look at just one of the company's software and it's designed with secret back doors and wireless connections and you've got The government and the CIA, we talked about this months ago when she was on the show, Bev Harris.
02:24:35.000All of this, and then now you find out that there's a PR campaign to use the Defense Department's money and the private defense contractor's money to lobby and propagandize to suppress the people and the media that is starting to learn of this.
02:24:51.000And they're counting on you going, oh Martha, they'd never steal the election, they'd never have a fraud set up like that.
02:25:03.000Bev Harris, what else came out in this secret meeting that you guys were able to get in on between the lobbyists, the vendors, the military-industrial complex folks?
02:25:17.000A good bit of discussion about, well, we want to make sure the media never finds out about this, and I have to say that the folks that were listening in were having a really hard time not saying anything, because they did sign in under their own name.
02:25:29.000What happened is they had everybody sign in and say who they were, but everybody called in at once, and they kind of just, I guess, didn't pay attention, because there was also a reporter from the Beacon Journal in Akron.
02:25:40.000Oh, so now it's not just... We kicked off a few people and said, you know, go on in and see what you can hear, and that's exactly what happened.
02:25:47.000But, yeah, there was a good bit of conversation about, well, we'd better check in with antitrust regulations, and we don't want anyone talking about collusion and things like this.
02:25:57.000Now, understand that any industry can set up a lobbying thing.
02:26:03.000And in setting such a thing up, they would certainly want to discuss antitrust issues.
02:26:10.000What was very unusual about this is this.
02:26:12.000Now, if you're an industry and you're legit and you're setting up a lobbying thing, the group of people from the industry would get together, they would probably interview a few lobbyist firms.
02:26:25.000What happened is the lobbying firm shows up and says, we need money by Friday.
02:26:31.000And they said, you know, don't want to say the term knife in the back, but, you know, those who are not members, well, if they get into trouble, it looks like they would want to become members.
02:26:48.000It's just cloaked in white-collar lingo.
02:26:51.000Well, see, that's, you know, I've talked to people in and out of government, and they say corruption has never been at such all-time highs.
02:26:59.000And if they get away with taking our elections away and let the CIA run it, I mean, folks, you're going to lose your Second Amendment, your borders, and they're going to say, well, it's a democracy, you voted for it, didn't you?
02:27:12.000That's why they want to get us away from a republic, because even if they control the voting machines, a republic would still have the Bill of Rights.
02:28:45.000He still had anomalies in the type of win that he did.
02:28:48.000Wait, I've got some of the articles, and last time you were on with us you were going over that, that some of the polls showed Hagel way behind and that it was a big upset.
02:28:55.000Oh, I think that was Cleland that we're talking about.
02:28:57.000Yeah, there were some situations like that.
02:28:59.000Cleland was ahead in the polls, and that was Georgia.
02:29:03.000Georgia had actually six upsets that did not match the polls.
02:29:06.000And Georgia used all these unauditable touch screens.
02:29:10.000So what happened with Hagel, then we'll go into Georgia.
02:29:12.000Yeah, and Hagel, with Hagel, he, now he's outspent his opponent.
02:29:17.000His opponent, Charlie Matolka, you gotta love him.
02:29:19.000He's a construction worker, he's a feisty guy.
02:29:21.000He spent a total of $4,000 on a United States Senate campaign, and Hagel spent about $3 million.
02:29:30.000So Hagel outspent him by whatever it was, $100,000 to one.
02:29:33.000And so, yes, you know, Matolka figured that Hagel has a bit of an advantage there.
02:29:40.000But what was odd was that Hagel won demographic groups that always go Democrat.
02:29:46.000He won the black areas of Omaha, you know?
02:29:48.000I mean, and it was not really to be expected.
02:29:51.000And then he comes forward and he starts bragging on his website that he won with the biggest margin in history.
02:29:57.000Well, you know, 85% of his votes were counted by his own machine.
02:30:02.000So then his opponent, Charlie Matulka, who's a candidate, you know, he had standing for a recount.
02:30:09.000Because the margin wasn't close, he couldn't get an automatic recount funded by the state, but you can get a recount if you're a candidate if you pay for it.
02:30:19.000So he said, OK, I'm going to pay for it.
02:30:20.000Now let's look at these ballots that my opponent ran through his own machine.
02:30:26.000And the state of Nebraska, if you can believe it, said, well, you can pay for the recount, but all we will do is run the ballot through Hagel's machines again.
02:30:58.000There's a reason they want these touchscreens so desperately, and that is because I think Florida scared the heck out of them.
02:31:04.000While everyone was talking about punch cards, my theory on Florida is the thing that really puts fear into these people is the optical scams.
02:31:14.000Diebold optical scams counted 40% of Florida in the year 2000.
02:31:20.000Now, if they had hand-counted every single one of those Diebold optical scans immediately after the election, statewide, I think some things would have come out that would have been impossible to deny.
02:31:32.000But we have election after election, Bev Harris, where they are both services would tell us who had won the next
02:31:39.000day we found out a whole statement different
02:31:43.000than what they said that you always again have these weird c_i_a_ companies
02:31:47.000and and senators and people involved in
02:31:51.000and all of the people involved are just wrong And then we've got a situation now, now this is kind of how I see things, and this is speculative, so we'll label it, Dev Harris' speculation, okay?
02:32:06.000But here's what I'm seeing it shake down to.
02:32:08.000Um, we have the defense industry who was pushing the move toward unauditable voting, toward getting rid of the paper trail.
02:32:17.000That we know from the meeting, because they came right out and said it.
02:32:20.000And number one, why is the defense department and then private There's a military industrial complex around it that Eisenhower warned us would try to overthrow the country.
02:32:44.000They have been involved through making voting machines.
02:32:46.000They're involved in the voter registration system.
02:32:49.000And they're involved in new things now.
02:32:51.000Now here's what I see coming down the pike.
02:32:53.000This lobbying effort, this whitewash effort, one of the things they also discuss is, well, what we need to do is sort of come up with our own certification standard, not the Federal Election Commission, but our own.
02:33:05.000We'll have the gold standard, which will be our own making.
02:33:09.000Now, I think what they're planning to do with the gold standard is this.
02:33:51.000Oh, yes, the photography is bulletproof.
02:33:53.000You have to trust it if it's got vote here inside it.
02:33:56.000You see, and so I think what it's aiming toward is you're going to see a move, and we're doing some pretty good work here to get the right questions asked, so it may be more difficult than they expected.
02:34:10.000You're going to see a move, though, to try to switch again and say, OK, well, the voters insist on a voter-verified paper ballot.
02:34:58.000And it will go in these voting machines and be the new gold standard so that we should just trust them and we know we never again need a paper ballot.
02:35:05.000Well, Bev Harris, let me stop you for just a minute.
02:35:08.000Let me stop, because this is just bombshell after bombshell, and I'm begging the listeners, you know who we are, just like the Catherine Albrecht interview that you did a transcript of, I'm begging you, do the transcript, get it to Paul Watson, we'll get it up on PrisonPlanet.com, up on Infowars.com, so we don't have to wait four months or three months for this to show up in the mainstream media with a spin on it, and we'll put links of course to BlackBoxVoting.com and have all that there for folks, so we can get it out to everybody.
02:35:36.000The key here is, Bev, were you aware of the folks over at No Cards, the, uh, involved, Catherine Albrecht, she went to the meetings and then they got off one of the websites that had a back door in it, the documents with the RFID tracker chips they want to replace the barcode with, and the secret meeting with Walmart and Procter & Gamble.
02:36:00.000Yeah, with Homeland Security talking about how to neutralize us, how to neutralize opposition, I mean, and how to get the military-industrial complex involved.
02:36:34.000I knew that there was a Vote Here situation and that there was defense people involved in that, but I couldn't quite figure out what Vote Here did until this meeting.
02:36:42.000But when we heard, and they were, I'm telling you, there was like two paragraphs of conversation about the defense industry and how it had pushed HAVA bill through and how maybe they could come in and help us now.
02:36:55.000By the way, there's two websites with this, but blackboxvoting.com does have the transcript on it.
02:37:01.000It's not a complete transcript and it does have my publisher's fairly opinionated notes
02:37:16.000We've already caught them that the voting machines were a fraud.
02:37:19.000We've got the League of Women Voters saying we don't want a paper ballot or a record.
02:37:24.000We've got all this other police state stuff going on.
02:37:28.000And then you guys get into one of these little secret meetings and you've got the plain dealer Cleveland newspaper person hearing all this.
02:39:23.000You know the one thing we have going for us is that when you have all that data and they
02:39:28.000crunch all those things, eventually it comes down to a human who has to go to his boss
02:39:33.000and say I think we should look into so and so.
02:39:35.000Now, this is a very bad thing because we can assume they're going to look into a lot of people that are very inappropriate.
02:39:42.000In the bottom line is, some human has to eventually look at all that data.
02:39:46.000So it's extremely inappropriate that they're collecting it.
02:39:49.000But I have to say, I sometimes kind of smile and think, what in the world do they think people... I mean, at some point, it's like if you do surveillance on all these people, I can tell you, if they were doing surveillance on the six telephone lines that I have in my office and house, They would have to listen to five teenagers discussing their boyfriends and their nails.
02:40:08.000At some point, some poor schmo is going to have to actually go through all this stuff and decide what's important.
02:40:18.000I think that may be the thing that saves us at some point, because they won't get the... Well, no, it's true.
02:40:22.000The reason they're announcing Echelon is watching us and you don't have any rights is a chilling effect.
02:40:28.000They don't have the personnel, even with the computers, to do anything with this.
02:40:31.000We're on the march, they're on the run, but... So they'll get a couple of key people that they can use as a public example.
02:40:37.000But, Bev, they're still putting in the systems, no matter how much fraud comes out.
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02:45:59.000There's going to be a link that he posts.
02:46:01.000He's going to post the Rig-A-Vote kit, which is using actual files from Diebold.
02:46:06.000What he has been doing is put it on a CD, he's taking it around and visiting his newspaper officer's editors and saying, let me put this on your computer, we're going to walk through this together.
02:46:15.000I'll show you how to rig your own election.
02:46:17.000and here and and now this is not designed to show people how to read it
02:46:21.000election it's designed to show newspaper editors that back doors into the system
02:46:25.000he said he had routinely picking up jog off the floor they cannot believe what they think and
02:46:31.000in his kit which he would probably with the link will be posted to
02:46:35.000and i might get For those who don't know, it's been in the news.
02:46:41.000They will have where one of every three votes for a certain individual just goes into a black hole file that isn't counted.
02:46:48.000Well, yeah, and what he has is, it shows you where the back doors are, and it's just so appalling when you see it.
02:47:05.000Now, one of the things he found, though, was he found an actual, he found a smoking gun.
02:47:09.000He found an actual file of actual votes for San Luis Obispo County, California, that is Let's just say a problem.
02:47:19.000Now, you know what they're supposed to do.
02:47:22.000All the precincts vote, they close down the polls, they tally up the precincts.
02:47:27.000Somebody explain why there's a file that was left on the Diebold FTP site where they tallied up the votes from all 51 precincts in that county at 3.31 in the afternoon and it can only have been done via wireless electronic means because otherwise they would have had to shut down all 51 polling places and plug in a modem.