Alex Jones Show - 20031024_Fri_Alex

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00:00:21.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Hello, my friend.

00:00:38.000 It's already Friday.

00:00:39.000 Another week has blasted past us.

00:00:42.000 The 24th day of October, 2003.

00:00:46.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:48.000 We have Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America joining us in the next hour.

00:00:54.000 We'll talk about the treachery of the National Gun Confiscation Association, known as the NRA, to the general public.

00:01:02.000 Then I have a local gun dealer who's a good friend of mine, an expert on the New World Order, Bob Dacey.

00:01:08.000 I deprogrammed Bob Dacey about six years ago.

00:01:11.000 By deprogrammed, I simply pointed out the New World Order on my local radio show and he didn't believe me and checked it out and found out that it was worse than even I was saying.

00:01:21.000 We'll talk about his experiences as a gun rights activist and what it's like to be a gun dealer and what the NRA and of course Smith & Wesson tried to do a few years ago trying to sneak through covert gun control.

00:01:35.000 We've also got some folks coming on from Jews for the Preservation of Firearms in the third hour to talk about the treachery of the Republicans and the so-called conservative gun groups.

00:01:48.000 Big show on this most key of constitutional rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights, simply pointing out one of our God-given rights to self-defense.

00:02:01.000 Key points of treachery with the National Rifle Association.

00:02:04.000 You'll be welcome to call in with all of your fine points.

00:02:07.000 Every time I discuss this, we have multiple life members and dozens of other members of the NRA calling in saying, yes, I've seen it myself, even back in the 60s, their treachery.

00:02:19.000 They've actually supported or been neutral on most of the big gun control acts.

00:02:26.000 And, I mean, don't think the New World Order isn't going to have Trojan horses on this central issue of disarming us. 0.68

00:02:33.000 Okay, that's coming up.

00:02:34.000 There's been new Terry Shivo-Schindler developments.

00:02:38.000 We'll get into that.

00:02:39.000 Boy, are they interesting.

00:02:40.000 Also, space weather.

00:02:42.000 How intense solar activity can upset Earth-based technology.

00:02:46.000 They're saying the biggest A mission seen since the 1850s is beginning to slam into the planet Earth right now.

00:02:57.000 Right now, the first waves are hitting us.

00:03:00.000 You'll be able to hear radio stations in New York City.

00:03:03.000 From Montana, you'll be able to hear New York radio stations in Texas.

00:03:08.000 You may not be able to hear local radio stations.

00:03:10.000 Cell phones, power grids may go out.

00:03:13.000 I hope that doesn't happen.

00:03:14.000 But they're saying it's a record solar flare.

00:03:17.000 We've been in record solar flares for three years now.

00:03:21.000 So we'll detail that when we get back.

00:03:22.000 Space storm coming to Earth.

00:03:24.000 Scientists are warning about a strong geomagnetic storm expected to hit the Earth today.

00:03:29.000 Forecasters say the storm has the potential to affect everything from cell phones and power grids to other satellite communications.

00:03:37.000 The disturbance is rated as a G3 storm.

00:03:40.000 The highest is a G5, which would probably kill a bunch of people.

00:03:44.000 NASA scientists are calling it the perfect space storm, hitting Earth directly head-on.

00:03:52.000 The largest cluster of sunspots caused an explosion on the sun, sending a massive amount of gas and charged particles into space towards Earth.

00:04:00.000 Scientists say they expect it to be the worst solar flare-up to be felt on Earth since a storm in 1859.

00:04:05.000 That storm caused telegraph wires to short out across North America and Europe.

00:04:11.000 So I'm not saying this is going to be disastrous.

00:04:14.000 They're saying it could be a big problem.

00:04:17.000 I'm sure they'll have me in the New York Times claiming the earth was going to be burned to a crisp today, but all I did was read the Associated Press.

00:04:25.000 If I say I'm against Hitler, I'll be in the National News saying that I'm anti-Semitic.

00:04:29.000 It's how it works here.

00:04:31.000 If I say I love Jesus, they'll have me in the paper that I'm a devout Satanist.

00:04:35.000 But this is the paper, I'm sure you've heard about it, and we'll go into it.

00:04:39.000 I hope nothing happens, but when you've got these thousand mile, five hundred mile long power lines and phone lines, they pick up these energies and intensify them.

00:04:51.000 So I just hope we stay on the air today.

00:04:53.000 Because I was already hearing problems on local radio stations off syndicated feeds this morning.

00:04:58.000 So, no telling what this is going to do to satellites, so stations should prepare themselves for backup plans for that.

00:05:05.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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00:08:17.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:23.000 Alright folks, again it is the 24th of October 2003.

00:08:28.000 Space storm coming to Earth.

00:08:31.000 The biggest solar flare hitting the Earth head-on.

00:08:34.000 It already started this morning.

00:08:35.000 They say it's going to peak at about 2 o'clock central time today and run through about 4 o'clock.

00:08:42.000 The largest cluster of sunspots recorded caused an explosion on the sun, sending a massive amount of gas and charged particles into space directly at the Earth.

00:08:52.000 Scientists say they expect it to be the worst solar flare-up to be felt on Earth since the storm in 1859.

00:08:57.000 So this is the biggest ever recorded.

00:09:00.000 The storm caused telegraph wires to short out across North America and Europe.

00:09:05.000 So I'll just tell radio stations prepare for that.

00:09:07.000 I'm already getting reports of radio stations, people not being able to hear them, syndicated feeds on other networks having problems.

00:09:15.000 I mean the big networks.

00:09:17.000 We're getting reports that there's already cell phone problems, weird electrical outages, so we'll see what happens here.

00:09:24.000 I hope it doesn't develop in your area, but it was... I've got several reports I read this morning about what happened in 1859, and we're a lot more dependent on technology now than we were in 1859, and this caused the wires to heat up, basically, full of all these charged particles, because it's You know, per square foot, not a lot of energy hitting the earth.

00:09:50.000 But when you've got a thousand mile wire, it picks up just massive amounts of energy.

00:09:57.000 I'm not a physicist or an electrical engineer, but I'm reading what the electrical engineers and physicists are saying, and it could be a big problem.

00:10:04.000 It could be no big deal.

00:10:05.000 But there's already problems starting to develop.

00:10:09.000 And this is out of ABC News.

00:10:11.000 This is all on PrisonPlanet.com or Infowars.com.

00:10:14.000 How intense solar activity can upset Earth-based technologies.

00:10:19.000 Forecasters warn a space storm is heading towards Earth and could disrupt power grids, satellites, and some high-frequency communications.

00:10:27.000 Researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have spotted two very active regions of the sun, one of which hurled a coronal mass ejection, or the CME, into space on Wednesday.

00:10:40.000 That CME is expected to reach Earth today, and it's already begun to hit us.

00:10:45.000 The CME is a massive solar event in which a huge bubble of plasma lifts off the Sun's surface at incredible speeds.

00:10:53.000 You know, the equivalent of hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands of nuclear bombs going off.

00:10:58.000 The result is a burst of charged particles and gas racing through space.

00:11:02.000 So, basically a giant particle beam with a wide spectrum is slamming into the Earth.

00:11:08.000 What we're being hit with now, they're saying, is just the build-up of the mass, the explosions that caused the coronal mass of the supercoil to launch at us.

00:11:17.000 So we're right now being hit by what's much higher than usual radiation from the sun, and then we're going to be hit by the mass ejection around 2 o'clock Central Standard Time today.

00:11:31.000 And again, I don't know what's going to happen.

00:11:32.000 In 1859, it caused a lot of problems.

00:11:35.000 Knocked out most of the telegraph wires.

00:11:39.000 So, I don't know what's going to happen.

00:11:41.000 Of course, back in 1859, they didn't have rubber or plastic coating the wires.

00:11:45.000 Some experts are saying that that may deflect some of the energies.

00:11:49.000 Having an open wire is even worse.

00:11:52.000 But again, who knows what's going to happen.

00:11:55.000 It goes on, the sun gives off a steady stream of charged particles known as the solar wind.

00:11:59.000 When those charged particles negatively charge electrons and positively charge protons, either in the atmosphere rather than continuing on their journey earthward, they are deflected along the lines of the force of Earth's magnetic field or shield.

00:12:14.000 As the particles move north and south, they spiral towards Earth, striking atoms and ions in the atmospheres.

00:12:20.000 These, in turn, emit electromagnetic radiation in the form of visible light, which we see as a sheet of shimmering light known as the aurora borealis.

00:12:28.000 The aurora are most common within the two Earths around the Earth.

00:12:32.000 The two rings around the Earth, one lying between 10 degrees and 20 degrees distance from the north magnetic pole, aurora borealis, and the other lying between 10 and 20 degrees distance from the south magnetic pole, Aurora Australis.

00:12:46.000 Generally speaking, the solar wind is relatively constant.

00:12:50.000 As a result, the Earth's magnetic field is fairly consistent as well.

00:12:53.000 When an event like a CME, or mass ejection, takes place, the atmosphere is flooded with unusually high concentration of charged particles.

00:13:01.000 That causes the strength of the magnetic field to fluctuate.

00:13:03.000 This is known as a geomagnetic storm.

00:13:06.000 According to the laws of electricity and magnetism, when the intensity of a magnetic field fluctuates, it can generate a current in conditions that are within the field.

00:13:15.000 Solar blackout!

00:13:17.000 The long cables that made up the length of telegraph systems, or that are part of existing telephone systems or power grids, are conductors that are highly susceptible to such fields.

00:13:26.000 During one intense geomagnetic storm in 1859, telegraph operators in New England disconnected the battery that powered telegraph transmission between Boston and Portland, Maine, and operated strictly using the electricity generated by the evening's aurora for nearly two hours.

00:13:42.000 Such currents can be problematic for sensitive electronic grids because they can cause the voltage to vary between grounding points on the system, leading to power surges that can wreak havoc.

00:13:53.000 Unloading transformers, overloading transformers, and overwhelming voltage regulators.

00:13:57.000 This is what happened to the Hydro-Quebec during a widespread blackout in 1989 that left 6 million Canadians in the dark.

00:14:05.000 That was in 89.

00:14:07.000 Researchers believe that portions of the North American power grid that happen to be situated in more northerly latitudes, which is closer to the ring where aurora are most likely to occur.

00:14:18.000 So look out in Australia and Canada.

00:14:22.000 And stop atop geological formations that consist largely of igneous rock, which has a high electrical receptability.

00:14:31.000 So look out in areas that have a lot of iron and copper.

00:14:35.000 They're especially vulnerable.

00:14:36.000 That would include most of eastern Canada, a good deal of New England, and a big swath of the Pacific Northwest.

00:14:44.000 Still, history shows that there is only a very slim chance that a solar storm could lead to a blackout anywhere.

00:14:51.000 More storms brewing.

00:14:52.000 Larry Combs, a forecaster with the NOAA Space Environment Center Space Weather Operations, of the two spots of solar activity, now on the Sun, developed surprisingly quickly over the past few days.

00:15:03.000 It goes on and on, but again, normally a solar storm, as they said, doesn't cause a problem.

00:15:09.000 But this one is particularly massive, being called a perfect storm, because the ejection is focused directly at the Earth.

00:15:18.000 And the Earth's quite small, folks.

00:15:19.000 It's pretty rare to be hit by one of these supercoils.

00:15:22.000 So, pretty scary stuff, but I think everything should probably be okay.

00:15:27.000 I mean, we've been hit by these in the past.

00:15:29.000 But, you know, I've looked at the mathematics of where the Earth's situated, the type of atmosphere we have, the size of the Earth.

00:15:37.000 If we were just a few hundred thousand miles closer to the Sun, a few hundred thousand miles further from the Sun, we would have a radically different climate that would not be as inducive to life.

00:15:48.000 Again, tell me there isn't a God.

00:15:49.000 Of course, you could argue that, well, mathematically there's all these hundreds of billions of stars and galaxies and planets and we just so happen to be in this particular spot that allows there to be life on this planet and so it's really no big deal at all. 0.98

00:16:07.000 Ah, the fool has said in his heart that there is no God. 0.93

00:16:10.000 Here comes the sun storm. 1.00

00:16:12.000 Again, here's a Fox News story.

00:16:14.000 In the kind of event that Facilitate space forecasters, but worrisome industries.

00:16:23.000 Again, that fascinates space forecasters, but worrisome industries.

00:16:26.000 A strong geomagnetic storm was expected to hit Earth on Friday, potentially disrupting everything from cell phones to power.

00:16:33.000 And there's already been some problems reported.

00:16:34.000 So, satellites blinking in and out.

00:16:37.000 Because satellites are out there in space, folks.

00:16:41.000 They're not shielded by the atmosphere, by the Van Allen Radiation Belt.

00:16:46.000 They're not shielded.

00:16:47.000 And so they routinely have problems when this goes on, so we'll see what happens with this situation.

00:16:56.000 Some of the other news that's coming up, new developments in the Terri Schiavo case with her bizarre husband, Michael Schiavo, running around throwing fits.

00:17:05.000 The ACLU comes out and says, hey, we need to go ahead and get rid of Terri.

00:17:09.000 They make me sick.

00:17:11.000 I guess that's what their job is.

00:17:12.000 Their job is to make sure that cities don't pass real resolutions, by the way, defeating the Patriot Act.

00:17:19.000 Just like the NRA is there to be loyal opposition to destroy the Second Amendment, the ACLU is there to take up, about 80% of the time, bad causes that are un-American, anti-life, anti-freedom, and then in a few cases they get it right in the case of the Patriot Act, but then intentionally throw the fight, like a boxer throws a boxing match.

00:17:41.000 So we'll get into that.

00:17:42.000 Also, I talk a lot about life extension technology, how the globalists are suppressing these developments for themselves.

00:17:48.000 And ANOVA reports human could live for hundreds of years.

00:17:51.000 Scientists say people could live active lives for hundreds of years if humans follow the same biological rules as laboratory worms.

00:18:00.000 They found that if you feed a mouse a subsistence, high nutrient level, right at starvation, it will live three times as long as a mouse that you feed a basic portion.

00:18:14.000 Not too much food, but just a little more than they need.

00:18:19.000 You only live about a third as long.

00:18:20.000 Well, they found that worms could live six times as long, the equivalent of a human living 500 plus years.

00:18:29.000 We'll get into that.

00:18:32.000 Very, very interesting development.

00:18:33.000 We've talked about these studies the last few years, but now it's conclusive.

00:18:38.000 That's why you see these people in Japan that eat four or five meals a day, high protein, high nutrient, very small portions, routinely living to be 115.

00:18:47.000 And they're not at starvation level.

00:18:51.000 They've found if you reduce that even more, you could easily live to be 200 years old.

00:18:56.000 Now that's the numbers, folks.

00:18:59.000 That's why they have reports hundreds of years ago of people living in the high mountains of Iran who would live to be 150.

00:19:06.000 And there's a lot of evidence showing that from studies they've done on the bones of these people that that indeed was happening.

00:19:15.000 And there are other historical reports.

00:19:17.000 In Roman times, Greek times, the Bible talks about people living hundreds of years.

00:19:22.000 Also, studies show the genetics are getting worse, not better.

00:19:26.000 Our genetic systems are breaking down.

00:19:29.000 The human genetic code that's being passed on is getting worse, not better.

00:19:35.000 Things are degrading, not getting better.

00:19:40.000 Okay?

00:19:41.000 So, we'll cover that.

00:19:43.000 Also, the censored videos, they're on PrisonPlanet.com of Terry Schiavo.

00:19:48.000 They've now basically defied the judge and put these out, so if you want to see them, go to PrisonPlanet.com.

00:19:53.000 Terry's fight for live video clips, they tried to censor, are on PrisonPlanet.com.

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00:24:46.000 Okay, there is so much news here, but this next piece of news is a big study they've done, and 81% of Americans believe in an afterlife of some sort, and think that they're going to heaven.

00:24:59.000 Well, I mean, I'm not even sure I'm going to heaven.

00:25:04.000 I mean, I believe in the promise, and I try to live my life properly, and I know that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, but I'm not going to sit here and just Tell myself that, you know, I can live however I want and do whatever I want, and believe me, 81% of this country, this country's very evil, folks, and 81% are, quote, sure they're going to heaven.

00:25:26.000 Boy, I wish I was that confident.

00:25:29.000 Despite the consistent flux in many dimensions of Americans' lives, a new study from the Barna Research Group in Ventura, California shows that most people have retained surprisingly traditional views, that's good news, about life after death, although the

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00:25:48.000 Lifestyles, values, and self-perceptions of most adults have undergone significant change.

00:25:53.000 And millions of Americans have embraced many elements of the post-modern worldview.

00:25:57.000 The vast majority continues to believe that there is life after death, that everyone has a soul, and that heaven and hell exist.

00:26:03.000 However, more than 50 million adults are uncertain regarding their potential personal eternal fate.

00:26:10.000 Belief in life after death, like the existence of God, is widely embraced.

00:26:14.000 8% or 8 out of 10, excuse me, 8 out of 10 Americans or 81% believe in an afterlife of some sort.

00:26:20.000 Another 9% said that life after death may exist, but they are not certain.

00:26:25.000 Just 1 out of every 10 adults contend that there is no form of life after one dies on Earth.

00:26:31.000 Moreover, a majority of Americans, 79% agree with the statement, every person has a soul that will live forever.

00:26:40.000 Either in God's presence or absence.

00:26:43.000 And it goes on to say a majority of people believe they're going to heaven.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, with 45 million abortions and killing people who aren't even in comas.

00:26:55.000 And millions of people in the prisons and corruption everywhere.

00:27:01.000 And just, okay, fine.

00:27:05.000 I just, what do you think about that?

00:27:07.000 I already talked about humans can live for hundreds of years.

00:27:09.000 I'm going to detail more of that later.

00:27:12.000 But right now, ACLU joins husband in battle to stop feeding a brain-damaged woman. 0.85

00:27:18.000 Hey! 0.99

00:27:18.000 Now the big papers and the national news aren't calling her, at least most of the time, a vegetable anymore. 0.99

00:27:25.000 Too many people have seen photos and video of her, conscious and mumbling, and her eyes open. 0.98

00:27:29.000 And so now they're calling her brain-damaged. 1.00

00:27:32.000 Let's kill people who are brain-damaged or paralyzed. 0.98

00:27:36.000 The American sickening Destroyer Liberties Union said Thursday that it will aid Michael Schiavo in his fight against Governor Jeb Bush and the Florida Legislature which earlier this week took the remarkable step of passing a law to prevent the Pinellas County man from disconnecting his brain injured wife from a feeding tube. 0.96

00:27:56.000 I know it's because of the thousands of emails and phone calls by the listeners of this show and other shows, to other talk shows, to C-SPAN, to the mainstream media, pointing out that she is not in a coma that is now forcing them to admit that.

00:28:11.000 And Governor Bush said he was going to go along with the courts until you put massive pressure on him.

00:28:16.000 So again, I commend you.

00:28:19.000 The intervention of the governor, however, altered the landscape, said Howard Simon, the organization's Florida director.

00:28:24.000 Several other significant advocacy groups on the sidelines, such as the AARP, say they too are now looking at the issue.

00:28:31.000 The entry of the ACLU and possible other influential players into the life-and-death drama played out in Tallahassee and Tampa underscores the growing dimensions of the coming court battle over whether the state's top leaders acted unconstitutionally in sidestepping the courts In the high-profile right-to-die case.

00:28:49.000 Let me tell you something.

00:28:50.000 The legislatures, the judicial, and the executive fighting with each other and disagreeing with each other is as American as George Washington apple pie in a Louisville slugger.

00:29:01.000 Gridlock is good.

00:29:03.000 Separation of powers is what it's all about. 0.94

00:29:06.000 Read the Federalist Papers.

00:29:08.000 Read the Anti-Federalist Papers.

00:29:10.000 Read the debates published in the newspapers at the time.

00:29:14.000 This is good, and of course the legislature really has more power in total than the executive and the judicial.

00:29:23.000 Because they are the diverse representatives in the republic form of government.

00:29:29.000 And the executive is there to administer limited actions, but the executive is more powerful than the judicial.

00:29:36.000 The judicial is last in line, and these globalists have put it first in line in power, when in truth, from the debates I've seen and the experts I've talked to, and my research, it goes legislative, executive, judicial.

00:29:50.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:52.000 We'll take your calls and we'll get to the Walmart bust of all these illegal aliens.

00:29:56.000 We'll be right back.

00:30:00.000 We're on the march.

00:30:01.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:30:04.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:30:10.000 Hello folks, this is Alex Jones.

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00:31:12.000 Pollution.

00:31:13.000 Pollen.

00:31:13.000 Is it as healthy as you'd like it?

00:31:14.000 Allergies.

00:31:15.000 Asthma.

00:31:15.000 Probably not.

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00:31:28.000 Worse.

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00:31:30.000 Chemicals.

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00:31:31.000 Does anyone smoke?

00:31:32.000 What about all those cleaners under your sink? 0.99

00:31:32.000 Fumes. 0.99

00:31:34.000 Where do you think all those fumes go?

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00:33:35.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're now 33 minutes into this first hour.

00:33:40.000 We've got an expose of the NRA and what's happening to the Second Amendment.

00:33:44.000 The second and third hour I'll throw out some other news as well.

00:33:47.000 Coming up we'll talk to Ernest, Tony, Carl and many others that are patiently holding.

00:33:52.000 Also on PrisonPlanet.com we have some of those censored videos of Terry not being in a coma.

00:33:58.000 That are now reposted.

00:33:59.000 You'll definitely want to go check that out.

00:34:01.000 Terry Schiavo.

00:34:02.000 Also, hundreds of people, over 300, were arrested.

00:34:06.000 Illegal aliens working as subcontractors for Walmart. 1.00

00:34:10.000 And again, they're doing this because of the pressure.

00:34:13.000 Because America, 80 plus percent, is against what's happening.

00:34:16.000 Know that it's hurting our jobs.

00:34:18.000 Know it's hurting our economy.

00:34:20.000 Let me tell you something, there are at least 30 million illegals in this country.

00:34:24.000 So they go out and arrest 300 or arrest a couple hundred at Tyson Chicken and oh, they're really doing something about it.

00:34:30.000 But it is a victory because at least they're arresting somebody, at least they're trying to have to act like they're doing something.

00:34:36.000 It's like two days ago when they passed the partial birth abortion ban.

00:34:39.000 Well, I actually read the bill and read some news articles about it by real conservative organizations.

00:34:44.000 It just says you can't kill the baby on the table, you can still kill it in the birth canal or in the womb. 0.97

00:34:49.000 So it's not a real partial birth abortion ban.

00:34:51.000 We need a ban on late term abortions. 1.00

00:34:53.000 We need a ban on abortion, abortion period. 1.00

00:34:57.000 So a lot of phony victories, but at least they're trying to pacify us.

00:35:02.000 That shows they're under intense pressure.

00:35:04.000 So that's coming up too.

00:35:06.000 And just a ton of other vital news.

00:35:09.000 We got Larry Pratt and Bob Dacey and a bunch of other Second Amendment experts coming on the show.

00:35:16.000 Before I go directly to your calls for five minutes or so, I want to bring Debbie Morrow up from New Millennium Concepts because I've got articles here about the Texas water supply full of high levels of Prozac. 0.99

00:35:31.000 In fact, I don't think this is an accident.

00:35:33.000 I mean, sure, you've got millions of people in the country, what, 10 million on these type of drugs, but and they don't break down the body but and and so people

00:35:41.000 are gobbling these and some of them like limbox or the oxycontin that's just a

00:35:45.000 depressant, a heroin derivative

00:35:48.000 you know the guys taking a hundred a day how many people are out there like that

00:35:51.000 but but the point is there's chloride

00:35:54.000 chloride uh... chlorine

00:35:57.000 herbicides, pesticides a dead bacteria

00:36:01.000 Oh, it's killing the bacteria, alright.

00:36:02.000 You're just eating dead bacteria.

00:36:04.000 That's the equivalent of eating microscopic amounts of rotten meat every day.

00:36:07.000 It's not good for you.

00:36:09.000 It's toxic.

00:36:10.000 Start drinking filtered water and you'll feel so much better.

00:36:14.000 I feel good promoting this.

00:36:16.000 And if you've already got some of their great water filters, you need to get them for friends and family, your grandchildren, your parents, your neighbors, if you love them.

00:36:25.000 Yes, I'll put you on a guilt trip.

00:36:26.000 Stop drinking the poison!

00:36:29.000 I've got the Associated Press here today about the Texas water supply.

00:36:32.000 There's articles of the Canadian water supply.

00:36:34.000 It's even messing up the frogs and fish!

00:36:38.000 Just the Prozac drugs!

00:36:40.000 Folks, I mean, when you've got tens of millions of people, really hundreds of millions on drugs worldwide, what is it doing to the water supply?

00:36:47.000 We know, tainting it!

00:36:49.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on the show.

00:36:51.000 Alex, thanks for having me.

00:36:53.000 You know, I was reading those articles in the internet yesterday about the Texas water supply, and I was shocked because it's right in my back door.

00:37:02.000 Now, you're up in Dallas where they found the high levels of Prozac.

00:37:05.000 That's just one drug.

00:37:06.000 Right.

00:37:07.000 Exactly.

00:37:07.000 I mean, I was shocked.

00:37:09.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:37:10.000 And of course, I was really glad that I drink Berkey water.

00:37:14.000 I've increased my water intake quite a bit lately because I'm dieting, I'm watching my weight and doing something about it and so I'm drinking quite a bit more water and you know I drink my Berkey water so much and I feel so healthy, so much better the more water I drink.

00:37:32.000 It's amazing so I was reading those articles yesterday.

00:37:36.000 You know, on one hand, I was really shocked to hear that it was in my back door, and on the other hand, I was so glad that I'm drinking Berkey water and that my loved ones are, you know?

00:37:47.000 But we have some, you know, great sales available for the Berkeys. 1.00

00:37:52.000 You know, we love supporting your programming.

00:37:55.000 We have the October specials, and I'd love to hear from your Listeners and you know get these water filters out to them not just to them but out to their friends and relatives for Christmas presents.

00:38:08.000 Now the holidays are around the corner.

00:38:12.000 Well, I mean, Debbie, I mean, of course, you're the biggest sponsors of this show.

00:38:15.000 You guys finance our global outreach on the shortwave to all the continents and the ships at sea.

00:38:21.000 And I, again, get letters from Africa, East Timor, Japan, Germany.

00:38:26.000 I mean, that's secondary, though.

00:38:28.000 I feel good.

00:38:29.000 This show's about Real information.

00:38:33.000 Real products.

00:38:34.000 And I feel good telling folks, get these products.

00:38:37.000 Get these water filters.

00:38:37.000 I bought them from you guys long before you were a sponsor.

00:38:41.000 And here's the article right here, MSNBC.

00:38:43.000 Fish on Prozac.

00:38:44.000 How depressing.

00:38:45.000 Antidepressant ingredient detected in Texas lake water.

00:38:48.000 What could be more peaceful, more restful, more relaxing than dropping a line into a quiet Texas lake and trying to hook a fish that is on Prozac?

00:38:56.000 According to a study by the Baylor University toxicologist, It goes on.

00:39:01.000 Florextine, the active ingredient in the antidepressant Prozac, is making its way into the lake in the Dallas area and into the tissue of freshwater bluegill fish.

00:39:12.000 And it goes on and on.

00:39:13.000 This story is on our website right now.

00:39:16.000 I mean, folks, that's just MBTE.

00:39:20.000 All these toxic chemicals in my neighborhood.

00:39:23.000 Fertilize about once a year with natural fertilizers.

00:39:26.000 I watch my neighbors with the big trucks spraying the stuff.

00:39:30.000 It makes your eyes burn.

00:39:31.000 Just the pesticides, the herbicides, the garbage.

00:39:36.000 It's going right in the gutter, right into your water supply, right into the aquifers.

00:39:40.000 Stop drinking it!

00:39:41.000 Stop the insanity! 0.65

00:39:44.000 That's true.

00:39:45.000 It really is an insane situation.

00:39:49.000 If you read about your local water, where it's coming from, a lot of times we don't even realize where they're coming from and that there are these toxins.

00:39:59.000 And you know, the Black-Berkey filters take out the organic chemicals to below detectable levels, which means that they're completely gone.

00:40:09.000 These, you know, organic chemicals that are being, you know, in the water.

00:40:15.000 We actually, when the water was tested, you know as we have lab work done on the filters to be sure what they do and what they take out, they would filter the water and then they would feed proteins to the water to see what would grow and absolutely no organic chemicals would grow when they feed it.

00:40:35.000 So they would turn the water into a big petri dish, add a protein, fuel for bacteria and it was non-detectable so the tests were done over and over again because they couldn't believe it This hasn't been seen before, folks.

00:40:46.000 This is top-of-the-line stuff, very affordable, and then they have the little sport bottles that cut out not as much as the black Berkey system, but a lot of the stuff is cut out.

00:40:56.000 That way, when you're at a restaurant, you just pour your ice water right into it and start drinking from it.

00:41:01.000 You'll be so much healthier.

00:41:03.000 You'll live so much longer.

00:41:04.000 This has proven your body 70% water.

00:41:07.000 Debbie, you're there right now.

00:41:09.000 You've got multiple specials, different prices.

00:41:11.000 The sport bottles make great Christmas presents.

00:41:14.000 If folks want to call you, they dial 1-888-803-4438.

00:41:16.000 You've got another brand of gravity filter.

00:41:18.000 We've got another brand of gravity filter.

00:41:23.000 You've had it for years.

00:41:25.000 Number one, Berkey's the highest quality stuff out there.

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00:41:31.000 1-888-803-4438.

00:41:32.000 If you want to see the filters, read about the October specials.

00:41:38.000 We have that posted on Infowars.com.

00:41:40.000 The left-hand side link through.

00:41:42.000 And then you can dial the number and talk to Debbie.

00:41:44.000 Just give her a call, and again, if you hear this in the middle of the night, just call, leave your name and number, call in the morning, Debbie will call you back or may answer the phone there.

00:41:52.000 The operators are in.

00:41:53.000 1-888-803-4438.

00:41:54.000 Debbie, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:42:00.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:42:01.000 Have a great weekend.

00:42:02.000 You too, my dear.

00:42:03.000 A great lady, folks.

00:42:05.000 Give her a call. 0.96

00:42:07.000 888-803-4438.

00:42:07.000 I'm drinking filtered water right now.

00:42:10.000 Let me take a delicious drink.

00:42:14.000 Ah, they can't poison me, at least through the water.

00:42:17.000 I mean, it's such a no-brainer.

00:42:22.000 I know friends who've been listening to the show for five years, but long before I was selling water filters, and I'm always saying, filter water, I'd have all the fluoride experts and the pesticide experts on, and I've got friends who still don't filter their water.

00:42:34.000 I mean, you've been in slavery so long, you just can't pull out of it.

00:42:37.000 Come on, folks.

00:42:38.000 Okay, let's go to the calls.

00:42:39.000 Thank you for holding.

00:42:41.000 Ernest in Pennsylvania, you're on the air, welcome.

00:42:44.000 It's Emmett in Pennsylvania.

00:42:45.000 Emmett, go ahead, sir.

00:42:47.000 Emmett Smith.

00:42:49.000 You stole my thunder.

00:42:51.000 I was going to call about the Walmart hiring 300 people that are illegal, but now they're putting it off on their employment agency.

00:43:01.000 Well, they didn't know it, but the employment agency did.

00:43:05.000 Sure, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

00:43:09.000 I'm getting into heaven.

00:43:14.000 I got my ticket to go right in.

00:43:16.000 According to Dr. Fulcher, which is on DCN at night, uh, Eastern Time, it's 2100 to 2200, last night he said, uh, Jesus' grace covers everything this body does.

00:43:31.000 Smoking, drinking, and last night he said even homosexuality.

00:43:36.000 He said Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality.

00:43:39.000 I don't even know who this person is.

00:43:41.000 Dr. Fulcher.

00:43:42.000 Okay, well... He's on... Well, if you don't agree with him, the best thing you can do is not promote it.

00:43:47.000 But let me just say this to you.

00:43:50.000 Again, for those who just joined us, there's this big study that was done, and the majority of Americans believe in an afterlife, believe they're going to heaven, and I just pointed out that, yeah, this is this new ecumenicalism where everything is acceptable.

00:44:03.000 And I'm sorry, folks, I mean, if you're really saved, you're not going to, you know, the fruits are going to be, you're not going to be doing all this bad stuff.

00:44:11.000 And so, yes, we are saved by grace, but if you're saved by grace, you're going to have the works.

00:44:16.000 The works, Christ said, flow out of that.

00:44:19.000 Yes.

00:44:20.000 And again, I'm not a Catholic.

00:44:21.000 I'm not saying you've got to go pay indulgences to the Catholic Church to get into heaven.

00:44:26.000 I'm not attacking Catholics either.

00:44:28.000 I'm just pointing out that I don't go with this whole view of, well, you can go out and do whatever you want because you accept Jesus, or the other extreme of you've got to pay $100,000 to the church or you're going to go to hell.

00:44:41.000 hundred thousand dollars to the church or you're gonna go to

00:44:43.000 you know go to a hell but they've gotten away from the good old going down the 0.79

00:44:50.000 altar weeping and crying and really repentant of your sins

00:44:53.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]

00:44:54.000 Now it's just, oh, I accept Christ and bang.

00:44:58.000 Oh, okay.

00:44:59.000 His grace covers whatever you do.

00:45:02.000 All right.

00:45:03.000 Anything else on your mind?

00:45:04.000 No.

00:45:05.000 Oh, another thing.

00:45:07.000 Wyeth Labs in New Jersey is laying off 4,400 people.

00:45:12.000 And I believe it's due to all the prescription drugs people are buying mail order from Canada.

00:45:18.000 Well, I mean, what do you expect when there are three times as much here just because the drug companies want to rip Americans off?

00:45:26.000 I mean, you know what, that'll force them to drive down prices. 0.71

00:45:29.000 I think it's wonderful.

00:45:30.000 It might have been Merck Labs.

00:45:32.000 And look, a lot of these old people have to have these medications. 1.00

00:45:35.000 There are a lot of good medications, and heart medicine, stuff you need, and arthritis medicine.

00:45:42.000 I mean, I got a dog who's on prescription arthritis medicine, and it's the same thing they give humans, and it's about, I don't know, ten times cheaper.

00:45:51.000 And that's a scam!

00:45:53.000 And that's wrong, and there's a lot of old folks literally eating dog food to get the prescription medicine. 1.00

00:46:01.000 Yes, and our good president didn't want to approve.

00:46:04.000 of a plan for Medicare patients to get their prescription drugs.

00:46:08.000 Well, I appreciate the call.

00:46:10.000 If we had a free market system, we wouldn't... Look, if we didn't have government involved, and we didn't have all this price fixing, you wouldn't need a prescription drug plan.

00:46:10.000 Thank you.

00:46:21.000 I think it's horrible.

00:46:22.000 Because the government's now going to be in control of your drugs, folks.

00:46:26.000 I'm just glad I'm on absolutely nothing.

00:46:28.000 I'm glad that I don't even take Tylenol when I'm sick.

00:46:32.000 I have been taking some allergy medicine because it got so bad I wouldn't be able to broadcast during my allergy attack last month.

00:46:37.000 I mean, my whole life I haven't taken drugs.

00:46:39.000 Well, that's not true.

00:46:40.000 I had two cups of coffee this morning and it's frankly a pretty bad drug.

00:46:43.000 Tony in Florida, you're on the air.

00:46:45.000 Go ahead.

00:46:46.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

00:46:47.000 Pretty good.

00:46:48.000 Hey, I got a question for you.

00:46:49.000 I'm looking at getting a permit.

00:46:51.000 I live in Florida and there's a law that you can get a permit to carry a concealed weapon now.

00:46:56.000 Um, what do you think about that?

00:46:57.000 What do you think about getting, you know, your prints in the system and doing all that kind of stuff?

00:47:01.000 Um, do you think it's a problem or do you think it's just not right in doing the law-abiding citizen way to be able to carry a concealed firearm?

00:47:08.000 Well, it's a very important question.

00:47:10.000 It takes about 20 minutes to even address it properly, but let me just boil it down to this.

00:47:14.000 Short-term, it'll make crime go down in your state, which it's went down 25% since they instated it six years ago.

00:47:21.000 Every state that does it sees an 18 to 30% reduction.

00:47:24.000 That's the Fed's own numbers, which they don't like to publicize, but are there.

00:47:28.000 Short-term, it'll lower crime and then it will, it's a loophole to turn your right into a privilege where they'll graciously allow you to defend yourself and make us all safer.

00:47:39.000 Uh, but it does turn it right into a privilege, and 80-something years ago, and then 50 years ago, they expanded it, uh, more than 80 years ago, 90-something years ago, in New York, they said, oh, just pay a dollar, two dollars, uh, come in, make sure you don't have a criminal record, that created the database, and you can have your gun permit.

00:47:57.000 Then they started restricting it, making it more expensive, making it be accredited classes, and the government taught the classes, and now they just don't offer it in New York City, and you gotta pay about $20,000 to somebody's campaign war chest or the sheriff.

00:48:09.000 This has been in the news, New York Post, be able to have a gun, there's only a few thousand permits in the whole city of what, 8 million, 9 million people.

00:48:17.000 Do you think it's worth it going through the process?

00:48:19.000 Let me finish because you asked an important question.

00:48:21.000 Let me answer it.

00:48:23.000 I'm not trying to run over you.

00:48:25.000 I've got to answer the question for you because it's an important one.

00:48:27.000 I said it would take 20 minutes.

00:48:28.000 I'm trying to do it in 3 minutes.

00:48:30.000 Uh, so what it does, we'll get Larry Pratt's take on that in the next hour, I'm sure he'll agree, but look, a concealed carry turns a right into a privilege.

00:48:38.000 As a stopgap measure so you can protect yourself and your family and drive down crime, it's okay.

00:48:43.000 But even in the interim or the medium term, the long term, it's bad. 0.99

00:48:47.000 When Texas passed a concealed carry, they tightened up all the other laws, and these idiots said, I've got my right now. 0.99

00:48:53.000 We need Vermont style concealed carry where if you don't have a criminal record, you can carry a gun. 0.99

00:48:59.000 No need for a background check because if they bust you with a gun and you're a criminal, obviously you weren't allowed to have it.

00:49:05.000 So we need Vermont style carry, not Florida and Texas style carry.

00:49:09.000 Go ahead.

00:49:09.000 Do you think it's worth it for me to get it is my question.

00:49:12.000 Do you think I should go about getting it?

00:49:14.000 And be able to carry it legally before, because you know, Florida, they're pretty gun-happy down here.

00:49:19.000 I mean, the cops will pretty much shoot to kill.

00:49:21.000 It's a process of getting you into the system and registered.

00:49:24.000 Would you recommend it?

00:49:25.000 Let me tell you, I'm someone who has been death-threatened quite a bit.

00:49:28.000 I don't do it, because I'm not going to go register in fingerprint and jump through 14 hoops for my Second Amendment.

00:49:34.000 So I carry a rifle, which is still legal and lawful, in the state.

00:49:39.000 Uh, and in my home I have handguns and incident access pistol safes.

00:49:43.000 And I have rifles locked up in a gun safe.

00:49:45.000 Uh, but no, I have chosen not to do it.

00:49:48.000 For moral reasons.

00:49:50.000 Now, am I telling you not to do it?

00:49:51.000 I'm saying you just better be conscious of the fact that while you're doing it, you better be lobbying for Vermont style and to get a better law passed in your state.

00:50:00.000 Alright, well thank you for your advice.

00:50:02.000 Yeah, let me just tell you, it's up to you, Tony.

00:50:05.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

00:50:06.000 Carl in Colorado.

00:50:07.000 Carl, you're on the air.

00:50:08.000 Go ahead.

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00:50:19.000 Going to the issue on everybody thinking they're going to heaven, obviously they haven't read the Bible.

00:50:28.000 If you go to Matthew 7, about verse 23, Jesus is... This is a scene after death.

00:50:36.000 And these people said, Lord, we did miracles, we did this and that.

00:50:40.000 And he says, depart from me, you workers of iniquity.

00:50:44.000 They presumed they were saved.

00:50:48.000 And even the Apostle Paul was living in hope until the very end of his life.

00:50:54.000 That's according to the Bible.

00:50:55.000 Well, I'll just say this, my discernment tells me I better fear God, and I am afraid to sit here and say I'm some lily-white, perfect creature.

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00:54:22.000 Carl in Colorado, then Ray in Colorado and others.

00:54:25.000 Carl, go ahead and finish up what you were saying, sir.

00:54:28.000 Well, I'm saying that it's time these people start to read the Bible for themselves.

00:54:34.000 Because, Jesus says, straight is the way, narrow is the gate, and few, F-E-W, few, People that have done more research than I have say a few means about one in a thousand.

00:54:48.000 And it's time these people wake up.

00:54:52.000 Can you think of what's going to happen to these one-worlders that think they're above and beyond?

00:54:58.000 We need to warn them.

00:55:01.000 And the church isn't doing it.

00:55:02.000 The clergy isn't doing it.

00:55:04.000 Well, I just, I mean, sometimes when I do watch TV, I flip over to the so-called Christian channels and it's a bunch of how to make money and a bunch of voodoo, basically, of tell God what to do and all this magic stuff and that Benny Hinn, I mean, it's like watching a shaman or something. 0.96

00:55:22.000 We're in a lot of trouble.

00:55:23.000 But to have 80% of people thinking that they're good and they're all going to heaven, that's scary.

00:55:29.000 Well, you know, I have been around Christianity for Over 30 years I've been an ordained minister.

00:55:36.000 And hey, I'm not sure I'm going to make it.

00:55:39.000 Because I hear repeatedly people saying, once saved, always saved.

00:55:45.000 That's the sin of presumption.

00:55:47.000 And that's one of the most dangerous things you can get involved in.

00:55:50.000 That's like walking out on quarter inch ice, presuming that you won't sink. 1.00

00:55:55.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:55:56.000 We're living in a world of stupid people, that's all I'm saying. 1.00

00:56:00.000 Well, you're the pastor, didn't the Bible say that, was it Christ that said, faith without works is dead? 1.00

00:56:06.000 Right, absolutely.

00:56:08.000 Absolutely.

00:56:09.000 But I hear people tell me constantly, oh, I'm saved by grace.

00:56:13.000 Well, I mean, I'll tell you right now, I'm a rotten creature.

00:56:15.000 I have horrible thoughts, you know, about a thorough time.

00:56:18.000 And I'll add this, that I hate evil.

00:56:24.000 I have this compulsion to stand up to bullies and corruption.

00:56:27.000 And I know that God's driving that.

00:56:30.000 But at the same time, I look at my own self, I see my own evil.

00:56:33.000 Well, look at Apostle Paul in Romans 7.

00:56:36.000 He said that, that I would do I can't do, but that that I would do, I can't, or that that I wouldn't, I do.

00:56:44.000 Now, I'm not better than Paul.

00:56:47.000 And what people don't realize is the Ten Commandments, as revealed in the New Testament, say it takes place in our thoughts.

00:56:57.000 Jesus says in Matthew 27, if I look at a woman to lust after her, I've already committed adultery.

00:57:03.000 Well, that's what I was saying is that Is that, uh, I mean, I continually, uh, you know, have, have, have thoughts, and I, I realize what that is.

00:57:11.000 Thanks for the call.

00:57:12.000 I appreciate it.

00:57:13.000 And the scary thing is the average person isn't even conscious of their, of their thought process.

00:57:17.000 See, you gotta just first get conscious of it, folks.

00:57:20.000 And you can say, well, I don't believe in God.

00:57:21.000 Well, fine.

00:57:22.000 If we've got evil people all around us, that's gonna come back on you.

00:57:26.000 You know, evil's a real thing, folks, whether you believe in God or not.

00:57:29.000 Uh, let's talk to Ray in Colorado.

00:57:31.000 Ray, you're on the air.

00:57:33.000 Alex?

00:57:34.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:35.000 How you doing?

00:57:35.000 I've called before.

00:57:36.000 I was the anarchist in Denver.

00:57:40.000 Yes, I remember your call.

00:57:41.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:42.000 But today I wanted to ask you about what you... Well, I wanted to ask you a quick question and then get to the topic I wanted to talk about.

00:57:47.000 About guns.

00:57:48.000 Is there any way to still get guns without registering them?

00:57:52.000 In most states you can still buy them from a private seller.

00:57:52.000 Yes.

00:57:55.000 You know, the ads in the newspaper.

00:57:56.000 I got a Winchester shotgun I want to sell for $200.

00:58:00.000 You go over to Billy Bob's house and buy it.

00:58:03.000 Okay.

00:58:03.000 But they're trying to pass laws and the newspapers, Carte Blanche, even Bilo, that owns the Dallas Morning News, won't take gun ads now.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, I think the Denver Post tried that here for a while too.

00:58:15.000 But the subject I did want to talk about most was on marijuana.

00:58:21.000 I've got this theory that the reason it's illegal in this country is because it was such an important industry That's not a theory.

00:58:29.000 We have industry documents where DuPont and others didn't want it.

00:58:35.000 George Washington grew it.

00:58:38.000 Look, I don't smoke marijuana.

00:58:40.000 I don't like marijuana.

00:58:42.000 I don't like anything that dumbs me down.

00:58:45.000 But at the same time, marijuana is a hundred times better than Prozac and Ritalin that they're shoving on our kids.

00:58:51.000 And I'm for decriminalization.

00:58:52.000 The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs we've got.

00:58:54.000 Stay there.

00:58:55.000 I'll get back to you later.

00:58:56.000 We've got Larry Pratt coming up.

00:58:57.000 Just stay there, Ray.

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00:59:47.000 Already into the second hour.

00:59:49.000 Ray in Colorado and others, be patient.

00:59:52.000 We're going to get to you here pretty quick with Larry Pratt.

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01:00:05.000 I got Larry Pratt on today, I got Bob Dacey, a local gun dealer and expert on the New World Order, coming on to talk about his view of the NRA.

01:00:12.000 We got some folks from JPFO coming on in the third hour.

01:00:15.000 Because, look, I mean the NRA's always tried to block us in Texas when we try to defeat gun bills.

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01:00:34.000 And last week I read about a October 8th case, federal, very important federal case, where the NRA argued, quote, Your Honor, we are here wanting to register handguns.

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01:01:07.000 It's disgusting. 0.85

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01:01:10.000 And that's something that Gun Owners of America will not do.

01:01:12.000 The NRA also won't put out alerts in their gigantic magazine that goes out to over 5 million people about what the anti-gun movement's doing.

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01:01:33.000 I've declared war on them, folks.

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01:01:46.000 Do we have Larry yet?

01:01:49.000 Good.

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01:01:53.000 Fantastic.

01:01:54.000 Larry, I know that you're a gentleman.

01:01:57.000 You probably think it sounds bad as the second biggest gun group in the country to bad mouth the NRA, but just come right out with it.

01:02:03.000 You're as smart as I am or smarter.

01:02:05.000 You and your operation are very intelligent.

01:02:07.000 You've got to admit, the NRA is there destroying the Second Amendment.

01:02:10.000 Bottom line, what do you say?

01:02:12.000 Well, we have a very important difference in how the political system works, and I think it might boil down to the uh... concept of optimism and versus pessimism

01:02:23.000 and we think that you can achieve a whole lot more than they do and i think

01:02:27.000 that's one reason they end up making a lot of concessions that uh... we don't think they

01:02:32.000 should be making Wait a minute.

01:02:34.000 Look, a compromise would be if I'm standing five feet from a cliff and I move back two feet next time you let me move forward two feet, they always give up ground.

01:02:45.000 We've already fallen off the cliff.

01:02:46.000 We're on our way down.

01:02:48.000 And this is more than just compromise.

01:02:51.000 Well, it's certainly the very disastrous result of a long-term uh... commitment to trying to be nice to the other side and it's it's a chronic problem it's not just the NRA you see it in a lot of different groups and one reason we promote so heavily the book that our chairman wrote confrontational politics is that a lot of people on our side generally on the freedom side and certainly in the right to keep and bear arms don't understand that uh... you don't win by uh... waiting for the other guy to say okay i guess you all are really nice guys after all

01:03:27.000 Part of it, I think, is a failure to acknowledge that we're fighting a socialist religion that views everything that we have as theirs, that we can't be legitimate doing anything apart from them.

01:03:40.000 Well, let me add this to what you just said.

01:03:41.000 We're going to come back and get into details of it and what GOA is doing right now to defend the Second Amendment.

01:03:47.000 The media says, and in politics they say, be nice, don't be confrontational, then they're confrontational.

01:03:52.000 I'm very confrontational, and all I've had is victories at the state level, Larry.

01:03:56.000 I'm very, I mean, I'm vicious.

01:03:59.000 Well, I think certainly a confrontational politics is the way to go.

01:04:03.000 It is, and they're trying to disarm you, folks, when they say, don't be confrontational.

01:04:07.000 That's right.

01:04:07.000 I mean, how do they behave, Larry?

01:04:09.000 Oh, they got it down to a fairly well.

01:04:13.000 Exactly.

01:04:14.000 I will defend my liberties.

01:04:17.000 Larry Pratt, stay with us, sir.

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01:09:38.000 Now, Larry Pratt, the last time I had you on, I didn't get around to having you plug how folks join GOA and some of the great items you have to offer, some of the insightful key info for the InfoWar.

01:09:51.000 You just mentioned a book, Confrontational Politics.

01:09:54.000 I was unaware of it.

01:09:55.000 I've read some of your other great books that you guys have put out.

01:09:58.000 How do folks get in contact with you guys?

01:09:59.000 How do they get that book?

01:10:01.000 Well, if they go to gunowners.org, that's probably the quickest and easiest way.

01:10:05.000 It's right on the web, and you can scroll down to where it says Bookstore.

01:10:09.000 Our foundation maintains an internet bookstore.

01:10:14.000 You won't find anything pretty on the shelves if you walk into our offices.

01:10:19.000 They're all piled up in a mail room, but they're there.

01:10:22.000 It's a book that was written by our founder and chairman, based really on his own 22 years in the state senate.

01:10:30.000 He found that it was so exasperating because his colleagues just did not understand conservative, pro-gun, pro-life, you know, across the board, whatever it might be, fighting taxes, they just didn't understand confrontational politics.

01:10:45.000 And as he watched the system, something that he took to like a duck in the water as far as confrontation was concerned, he saw that the other side was able to teach him lessons, which he was willing to learn, But he had a lot of trouble getting his colleagues to learn it.

01:11:00.000 So he wrote this book.

01:11:02.000 It's a short, quick, easy read.

01:11:04.000 He's really a good writer.

01:11:06.000 And he gets across the idea, which actually a number of people have had almost identical reactions.

01:11:12.000 After they've read the book, they'll contact us and say, I finally understand why our side keeps losing.

01:11:18.000 How do folks call and get that?

01:11:20.000 If they can't get on the web at GunOwners.org, then there's a toll-free number they can use to get it.

01:11:26.000 It's 888-886-GUNS.

01:11:29.000 Or that's another way of saying it is 888-886-GUNS.

01:11:36.000 Oh, that's fantastic.

01:11:37.000 Or GunOwners.org.

01:11:38.000 Now Larry, this is a key issue you brought up.

01:11:41.000 And I should talk more about this.

01:11:44.000 I've noticed the socialists, the gun grabbers, the land grabbers, very confrontational, in your face.

01:11:49.000 And they tell you, the political pundits, the consultants, oh, lay down, be nice, don't be confrontational.

01:11:55.000 That's the equivalent of Tokyo Rose or the Northern Vietnamese with the speakers going, lay down, don't fight, it's wrong to fight us. 1.00

01:12:03.000 I mean, people shouldn't buy this propaganda.

01:12:05.000 They do that in talk radio, the consultants tell you.

01:12:07.000 It's kind of like Linus and Lucy, and Linus is forever falling for Lucy's scam about, I'll hold the football up this time!

01:12:16.000 And of course she never does, and these guys keep telling us, look, we just want to close this one quote loophole, and that'll be the gun control law that'll make things work, or as you say, the land control that we need to make things responsible for the environment, or whatever it might be.

01:12:33.000 It's just this one more little nick off your salami. 0.99

01:12:36.000 But in their mind, they see the salami going through a grinder, the whole link of it.

01:12:41.000 And yeah, they're sitting up on top of it, trying to jam it in.

01:12:45.000 That's right.

01:12:47.000 Now Larry, your honor, we are here wanting to register guns.

01:12:51.000 This is on InfoWars.com.

01:12:53.000 NRA attorney Stephen Holbrook appears not only unprepared to effectively argue the Second Amendment case, But ready to give up the farm to register handguns and call it responsible.

01:13:02.000 We have the transcript of this from two weeks ago in D.C.

01:13:05.000 Second Amendment federal court hearing attorney transcript of N.R.A.

01:13:05.000 D.C.

01:13:09.000 case proceedings.

01:13:10.000 The court, the judge, the government can put restrictions on the right to bear arms.

01:13:14.000 Mr. Holbrook, N.R.A.

01:13:15.000 lawyer, your honor, we are here wanting to register handguns.

01:13:19.000 We are not here wanting unregistered access.

01:13:21.000 We are not here asking to carry them other than in the home.

01:13:25.000 The court You're saying that the government can impose reasonable restrictions.

01:13:29.000 Mr. Hallbrook, yes.

01:13:31.000 Your Honor, yes, your Honor.

01:13:32.000 Let me add one more point to get your take on it.

01:13:34.000 Larry Pratt, COA.

01:13:36.000 One more point.

01:13:37.000 The Cato Institute says the NRA is trying to derail their gun suit.

01:13:42.000 Angel Shamaya and the folks out of California with the case, they're saying the NRA has tried to sabotage them.

01:13:48.000 Comments?

01:13:50.000 What Halbrook said is indefensible, and it's all the worse because I know he doesn't support registration as a general principle.

01:14:00.000 I've read too much of his work to know that he would agree with it.

01:14:03.000 He's the guy that, among others, but he's written a lengthy law review article exposing how registration was used by the Nazis to get at the guns of the german citizens prior to their uh...

01:14:17.000 really roughen up the country

01:14:20.000 what he was uh... i'm presuming what he was trying to say was look

01:14:24.000 we're not challenging all of the law all we want today is to make it so that i

01:14:29.000 can legally have a handgun in their house

01:14:32.000 and he could have said it that way uh... or some

01:14:35.000 you know other

01:14:37.000 But that'll be precedent-setting nationwide, and Benedict Arnold stood up and said how much he loved the Continental Army, but he was still a traitor.

01:14:44.000 It was a bad thing to say.

01:14:47.000 He's better on his feet than that.

01:14:48.000 I don't know what came over him, and I'm very disappointed that he had something like that to say, because this is a guy whose writings have been just tremendous in the cause of liberty.

01:14:58.000 The story of how the Swiss stood off the Nazis, the story of how Uh, gun control was used against the blacks following the war between the states.

01:15:09.000 Yeah, but Larry, what about, what about now, this situation that we have developing, uh, where you got Chuckie Schumer and board members of the NRA up there for the Lady of Pease Act, and now they're strengthening the instant background.

01:15:24.000 You've written articles about how it's the worst gun control in 20-30 years.

01:15:28.000 We are on different sides with them on two major issues I can think of right off the top.

01:15:34.000 One is the renewal of the ban on the plastic gun, which first of all doesn't exist, and if it did it would probably be a one-shot before it became a blob of melted plastic in your hand.

01:15:47.000 But if it were something that could be produced, I'd like to go buy one myself.

01:15:52.000 We don't have any business banning guns, and they're supporting this, and I think that's, among other things, it's unwise.

01:15:59.000 Not only is it unconstitutional, but it's a false sense of security that somehow, oh well, if we keep plastic guns away from the market, then they won't be going through airport security.

01:16:11.000 We know how tight airport security is.

01:16:13.000 I think if we're relying on airport security, we might as well, I don't know, get a bicycle to go across the country because it's not a good idea on the planes the way they're flying now.

01:16:25.000 So that's one disagreement.

01:16:26.000 We just flat out are not going to agree to any gun bans, period.

01:16:29.000 And that thing comes up for its expiration December 10th.

01:16:35.000 And I think they almost forgot about it this year.

01:16:38.000 Ted Kennedy just introduced a bill earlier this week to, quote, plug that loophole.

01:16:43.000 What about Ron Paul's bill to not give money to the UN for anti-gun programs?

01:16:48.000 How do we get behind that bill?

01:16:50.000 Well, we've got, at one time or another, we've done email.

01:16:53.000 I think there may still be some on our website, and if not, you can always send your own message to the Congress in support of or opposition to any number of bills from gunowners.org.

01:17:05.000 We've got a Yes.

01:17:06.000 an activism center where we've made it really easy you just type in your zip

01:17:10.000 code and automatically your congress critters pop up

01:17:14.000 and you can but can we send positive messages saying that we want to

01:17:17.000 get ron paul's bill blocking you in anti-gun funding absolutely

01:17:22.000 uh... you can do that and if you don't know the uh... bill numbers you can

01:17:25.000 always look that up on another section of our page which uh... the main page has a

01:17:30.000 place you can click for what is it a chart HR 1325?

01:17:33.000 I was afraid you'd ask me the number.

01:17:34.000 I think it's HR 1325.

01:17:36.000 I covered it two days ago.

01:17:37.000 That's probably right because he introduced it fairly early in the session and that relatively low number would indicate that.

01:17:44.000 Okay, well look, bottom line, Larry, We need to repeal all the gun laws, get Vermont-style Second Amendment, the real deal.

01:17:51.000 The NRA's not doing that.

01:17:52.000 How do we stop it?

01:17:55.000 How do we make the NRA?

01:17:56.000 How do we reform the NRA?

01:17:58.000 How do we remove their board of directors and put the Neal Knox types back in?

01:18:02.000 Well, I'm not sure, because I'm not a great student of their internal workings, but it seems to me that they've got enough of a control of the process for membership On their board that that's going to be pretty tough to do, but we found during the battle on the gun show attack from 98 through 2000 that Gun Owners of America is able, even when the other gun groups are on the other side, by the grace of God, we were able to stop that legislation, not only with no allies, but our allies were actually on the wrong side.

01:18:38.000 I think what we need to do is to try to stop the so-called Our Lady of Peace bill, which you've mentioned.

01:18:44.000 They're now calling it the Nick's Improvement Act, as if you could improve a whorehouse or improve any other thing that shouldn't exist. 0.98

01:18:53.000 But that's something that I think we could win, and if we've got a minute after the break, I'd love to explain why I think we can get some of the flakes brought on to support us on that bill.

01:19:03.000 Also, I want to get into how do we ensure that Bush doesn't reauthorize the assault weapons ban next year.

01:19:09.000 Yes.

01:19:10.000 So we'll talk about that with Larry Pratt, and I'll come right out and say it.

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01:23:35.000 information to cover here in a short time.

01:23:38.000 The website's gunowners.org.

01:23:40.000 Got a big fat link to it on infowars.com right now.

01:23:44.000 Larry Pratt, the two questions I shot out at you before the break, tell us about the Lady of Peace Act, now the NICS Strengthening Act, and how do we defeat the assault weapons ban reauthorization?

01:23:58.000 Okay, the Our Lady of Peace, the NICS Improvement, the NICS Strengthening, however it might be called, is something that should be laid to rest in perpetual peace.

01:24:10.000 This thing is nominally to provide money for the states, to send all kinds of criminal and hospital records to the feds so that they might further disqualify other people from gun ownership.

01:24:29.000 These would all be non-violent type of offenses or histories, but nevertheless they are on a program to piecemeal, little by little, take it all away.

01:24:44.000 And that's something that ought to be of concern to gun owners and freedom activists, but I think there's another dimension of this that starts to talk to some of the, actually, the Liberal Democrats.

01:24:53.000 they were understandably upset about the total information awareness program

01:24:58.000 that supposedly been stopped it by a senate amendment earlier this year

01:25:02.000 uh... we don't want the government having a huge database that has

01:25:06.000 a collection of all the databases in the country so that we are totally

01:25:10.000 transparent and our government of course is uh... totally obscure

01:25:15.000 this bill would accomplish what we thought we had stopped uh... when we defunded the defense department's t_i_a_

01:25:23.000 It's a funding mechanism for the new Matrix system at the state level integrated with the feds.

01:25:28.000 Well, and it actually has a little kicker in there that's a mind-blower.

01:25:32.000 In order to track down an illegal alien that might have an illegal gun, They would authorize in this bill the FBI to get all the IRS data on all Americans, all the health records on all Americans, all the employment records on all Americans.

01:25:50.000 Ain't a whole much left after you get all of that.

01:25:53.000 I'd say if you have all that in one place, you've got it all.

01:25:57.000 And that's in the name of protecting the children and the women.

01:26:01.000 And I think this is a major fraud.

01:26:04.000 And we'll see how consistent some of these privacy advocates are.

01:26:08.000 I applaud them when they criticize John Ashcroft for things in the Patriot Act and the TIA.

01:26:14.000 Let's see if they really are serious about protecting the average American's privacy, which is going to go down the toilet.

01:26:20.000 Well, make no mistake, Larry, you're right.

01:26:22.000 If this was Bill Clinton or Al Gore doing all this, they'd love it.

01:26:25.000 Absolutely.

01:26:26.000 And I think some of our guys would be a little bit more astute to block it, but because it's got Larry Craig, an NRA Director, Senator from Utah, as one of the sponsors, and John Dingell, who's perceived as a pro-gun Democrat, even though he voted to ban semi-automatics, this thing has a lot more gas in it than any other anti-gun measure, save the banning of the plastic gun again, that I can think of.

01:26:49.000 Okay, but next up is the assault weapons ban reauthorization with pork added to it, How do we defeat that?

01:26:55.000 I mean, we need to be defeating that, not allowing reauthorization.

01:26:59.000 That's correct.

01:27:00.000 I'm frankly moderately optimistic that if we keep the heat up, and that's that big if, that's the significant word, if.

01:27:08.000 But if we keep the heat up, I think they will see the light, as Senator Dirksen used to like to put it.

01:27:13.000 And when is that coming up next year, Larry?

01:27:15.000 Well, it expires September 13.

01:27:18.000 Of next year, 2004.

01:27:21.000 It doesn't look like they're going to be doing anything with it at all this year.

01:27:24.000 They're getting mercifully close to closing this particular session of this Congress.

01:27:28.000 But I've noticed the NRA hasn't even been talking about it.

01:27:30.000 We need to force them to get their members behind repealing this.

01:27:34.000 Well, and I think the more chatter there is that you're causing on your show, and other shows hopefully joining with you, we've done a number of mailings and email campaigns on this thing, and eventually I think Our allies are going to be jumping in on this thing.

01:27:51.000 Well, we've got to start heating up now for the election, heating up for what's after the election.

01:27:55.000 We're going back into the cycle, as you know.

01:27:57.000 Yes, exactly.

01:27:57.000 And all the activists, you better get back in the field again.

01:28:01.000 Yes, that's exactly right.

01:28:03.000 One of the things that we'll be doing is trying to cash up our political victory fund.

01:28:07.000 And we operate, even in that one, rather differently, because we will pick Certain people like Marilyn Musgrave, and frankly, the gun owners that were on our list and subsequently became part of her support base contributed somewhere in the neighborhood of $125,000.

01:28:25.000 We encouraged what they call bundling mailings, but it takes money for us to do that.

01:28:32.000 We mailed many of our members, and we emailed our members as well, and we encouraged them to send money directly to her campaign.

01:28:41.000 We knew from her record in The state legislature, she was going to be as good as we've seen her being here in the Congress.

01:28:47.000 Alright, Larry, can you stay with us for about 10 more minutes?

01:28:50.000 You bet.

01:28:50.000 Okay, we'll come back, talk to Ron, Regina, Larry in Texas, a couple other people.

01:28:55.000 We've got Bob Dacey coming on, a local gun dealer, to get his perspective.

01:28:59.000 He's done a lot of research on the NRA, on the UN, on what's happening, and so he'll be joining us as well.

01:29:05.000 We'll be right back after this quick break.

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01:33:36.000 Hello.

01:33:37.000 I spoke to Larry extensively about a year or so back.

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01:34:12.000 Well, it's the Matrix Total Information Awareness Network for gun owners.

01:34:16.000 It starts with us, like Hitler starting with Jews. 0.85

01:34:19.000 But this is even slightly worse than the original legislation, because the original legislation At a process of economic rewards to states that comply.

01:34:28.000 This legislation rewards compliance and punishes, withholds funds to states that don't comply.

01:34:35.000 And plus it expands the base of information.

01:34:38.000 It is not only just medical information, as you pointed out, there's also a catch-all in there.

01:34:43.000 Uh, which says, information which may be of interest.

01:34:47.000 Like the IRS records.

01:34:48.000 Federal government.

01:34:49.000 So that's a pretty wide open, uh, you know, parameter.

01:34:53.000 Okay, comments from Larry to Pratt to what Ron is saying.

01:34:56.000 Uh, he's absolutely right.

01:34:57.000 It's the ball game.

01:34:58.000 It is everything they want on us.

01:35:01.000 And I named three databases that would probably give them all they really want.

01:35:05.000 But, if they wanted more, uh, that language exactly lets the FBI, and they're the agency that pulled the trigger, if you will, It lets the FBI trigger requests for any amount of information they want.

01:35:17.000 So it's the Total Information Awareness Network, end of the Fourth Amendment, right there.

01:35:21.000 Right there.

01:35:22.000 And where are all the civil rights activists?

01:35:24.000 Where are they indeed?

01:35:25.000 Well, fellas, I'll tell you, we do have some allies out there on the other side of the political spectrum that ordinarily we would not maybe consider allies.

01:35:38.000 We have an organization called the National Association for the Mentally Ill.

01:35:42.000 Which is vehemently, vehemently opposed to this law.

01:35:47.000 And in fact, I contacted them as well.

01:35:49.000 I think that we should, you know, we should try to make alliances and network with people.

01:35:54.000 A lot of organizations don't know what's going on. 0.98

01:35:56.000 A lot of people are ignorant.

01:35:57.000 It's up to you as the listeners to be facilitators and to reach out and educate people and to keep this broadcast informed, to keep Larry Pratt informed. 0.97

01:36:07.000 And yes, and I did.

01:36:08.000 As a matter of fact, I called Mr. Pratt's office several weeks back about this.

01:36:12.000 I spoke with, of course, the lovely lady who answered the phone there.

01:36:15.000 Okay, Ron, I've got to let you go.

01:36:16.000 One last thing.

01:36:18.000 Okay, one last thing.

01:36:19.000 Ron's already gone.

01:36:21.000 Any other comments to what he just said, Larry?

01:36:23.000 Well, I'm glad that he's on this thing, because I really appreciate having somebody that's got that law enforcement background.

01:36:30.000 I think that carries a little bit of extra weight with some of these legislators, because they're so used to listening to law enforcement tell them to ban guns, and here's a man Who's really got it figured out.

01:36:41.000 Well, also, you know, we can use those investigative skills to defend the Republic.

01:36:45.000 Two more calls.

01:36:46.000 Regina in Pennsylvania.

01:36:47.000 You're on the air with Larry Pratt.

01:36:49.000 Go ahead.

01:36:49.000 Hi, Alex.

01:36:50.000 Sorry about the second call so soon, but the number I have is H.R.

01:36:55.000 3125.

01:36:56.000 Keep and Bear Arms of 2003.

01:36:57.000 Ron Paul's bill about the U.N.

01:37:00.000 Remember you mentioned it earlier?

01:37:02.000 Oh, very good.

01:37:03.000 Correct number.

01:37:04.000 I'm really concerned also, Larry Pratt.

01:37:07.000 I'm sure you're aware.

01:37:08.000 I've been very concerned, so has Alex, on this faith-based ministry.

01:37:12.000 I just got an email that kind of disturbed me.

01:37:15.000 I wish I could send it to you, but maybe you were also following this.

01:37:18.000 I sent it to you, Alex, in regards to... We don't want an S-4176.

01:37:24.000 We want the HR-7.

01:37:25.000 I don't know if they're having conference committees now, but Paul... For those who just joined us, tell them what you're talking about.

01:37:31.000 I'm talking about the churches being able to get money for the... Becoming minions of the federal government.

01:37:37.000 Okay, and it says that there's a group of Christian schools that's behind this H.R.

01:37:42.000 7.

01:37:43.000 Paul Warrick, who's also pushing the man and woman.

01:37:48.000 We don't hear about UNESCO joining, but we're to have a second, you know, the constitutional amendment on man and woman from him.

01:37:54.000 And then there's evangelical church groups.

01:37:58.000 I just wondered if, since it's turned into H.R. 7, Do you have any different kind of opinion on it, Larry Pratt, than you did in the past?

01:38:08.000 Well, actually, one of the battles we have been fighting is in the educational area.

01:38:11.000 We don't believe that the federal government ought to be involved in education.

01:38:14.000 Certainly, they shouldn't be involved in charity.

01:38:18.000 We just think they ought to get out of all of this.

01:38:21.000 Alex, I'm not sure whether we've talked about these presidential academies, but we've been fighting that thing tooth and nail.

01:38:26.000 Yeah, we've had you on about how they're now trying to rewrite the ethics, have the ethics and the history and the civics curriculum all written by the federal government.

01:38:35.000 The socialist professors would run these training academies.

01:38:40.000 That's just a terrible idea.

01:38:41.000 The schools are already bad enough.

01:38:42.000 I mean, Bush just signed back onto UNESCO, so we can see where it's all going, and having the churches on the federal payroll is a nightmare.

01:38:51.000 Yeah, certainly my church isn't going to be there, and hopefully a lot of others have it figured out, but there will be some that will voluntarily put the hook in their mouth, and that'll be terrible.

01:39:00.000 Absolutely.

01:39:01.000 Let's take one last call for Larry Pratt.

01:39:02.000 George, George, where are you calling from?

01:39:06.000 Hello?

01:39:07.000 Yes, where are you calling from?

01:39:08.000 Michigan.

01:39:09.000 Right, you're on the air.

01:39:10.000 Go ahead.

01:39:11.000 Okay, listen, Larry.

01:39:13.000 In 1976, were you at the Republican National Convention in Kansas City?

01:39:18.000 No, I wasn't.

01:39:19.000 Okay, well, I thought... I made it to Detroit the following convention, I believe.

01:39:26.000 Yes.

01:39:26.000 1980?

01:39:27.000 Okay, I was there also.

01:39:29.000 And we've been in a war a long time, and this attack on guns and the the n_r_a_ is strictly a phony organization 1.00

01:39:37.000 because of but token resistance

01:39:40.000 well i wish i could get them to read uh... confrontational politics it uh...

01:39:44.000 would be very helpful in might correct a lot of what they do

01:39:47.000 Well, I don't know that you'll be able to overthrow with an NRA.

01:39:51.000 It's controlled by the New World Order and that's one of the ways they always operate. 0.98

01:39:54.000 They always control both sides in any conflict.

01:39:58.000 That's a good question.

01:39:59.000 Larry, in your years at Gun Owners, have you ever been approached?

01:40:02.000 I'm sure you have with the lobbyists and promised deals to move up in the world if you just compromise.

01:40:09.000 You know, I guess I'm such an ornery cuss that I haven't really gotten those kinds of deals.

01:40:16.000 I've been asked to give in on this or that, but nobody's ever said what they would do for me.

01:40:21.000 They just thought I'd be so happy to give in, and I look at them like they came from Mars, and they realize we're not talking the same language, so they generally tend to leave me alone.

01:40:30.000 It's probably the same with you.

01:40:32.000 They may try to intimidate us, but I don't think you're likely to be getting too many offers in compromise either.

01:40:39.000 I've gotten a few in radio.

01:40:40.000 Oh, you know, come be a neocon, but I'd turn them down, obviously. 0.96

01:40:45.000 Anything else, George?

01:40:46.000 We got one other question.

01:40:47.000 Larry, when you were there in Detroit in 1980, You there the night that Reagan stood up and said he wanted to take George Bush as his vice presidential nominee?

01:40:58.000 I almost threw up on the floor.

01:41:00.000 Okay, that's exactly what happened.

01:41:02.000 That room with thousands and thousands of people, you could have heard a pin drop, and I kicked myself in the tail end that I didn't holler traitor at the top of my lungs when that occurred.

01:41:13.000 And the next day, when he came in with George Bush, Nancy was standing there crying on Paul Axel's shoulder.

01:41:21.000 Do you recall that?

01:41:23.000 Yeah, and of course a lot of us thought at that time that Jack Kemp was the great alternative.

01:41:27.000 Yeah, which was not the case.

01:41:29.000 It turned out that we didn't really have a horse in that race.

01:41:31.000 Yeah, he was a sellout.

01:41:34.000 I stored stuff over at Kemp's, so I was distributing literature there.

01:41:38.000 Well look, what you get, thanks George from Michigan, what you get with that is the former CIA director, the Kissinger buddy, the ambassador of the U.N.

01:41:46.000 and China, Bush, for the national security dictatorship coming in to really be the president.

01:41:52.000 That's a real tragedy.

01:41:53.000 Larry Pratt, thank you for spending 40 minutes with us today and I look forward to having you back on as we go into the election and as we Fight the gun grabbers and I hope that we can get that assault weapons ban repealed.

01:42:05.000 There's going to be a lot of action.

01:42:06.000 You bet.

01:42:07.000 And defeat this total information awareness network funding mechanism through the gun bills.

01:42:12.000 Well, thanks so much for your interest in all this and for having me on.

01:42:15.000 I really appreciate it, Alex.

01:42:17.000 Larry, keep it up and take care.

01:42:18.000 Thank you, sir.

01:42:19.000 Larry Pratt, very accessible fellow, very intelligent on the facts and the issues, and there's just more exposing what we're facing as gun owners, as Americans, in this first freedom, and how the NRA will not blow the whistle, will not warn the people, and will actively try to derail lawsuits that could Create good case law for the Second Amendment.

01:42:39.000 Alright, now I want to thank Bob Dacey for holding.

01:42:41.000 Bob's a good friend of mine.

01:42:43.000 He owns a hardware store that also has a gun shop in here in town.

01:42:47.000 He does a lot of hardcore research on the UN, on the NRA, on where the Second Amendment is, on the different plans to get your guns, to shut down the gun shops, the gun dealers, the gun makers, the distributors.

01:43:01.000 He also has a popular TV show here in Austin that I tune into when I get a chance to.

01:43:06.000 Bob Dacey, getting a chance to listen to what Larry Pratt's been talking about and what we've been covering here with the NRA, saying we want to register your guns and not getting behind the repeal of the assault weapons ban and being for this new Total Information Awareness Network funding through gun control.

01:43:22.000 Your response to all that, Bob Dacey?

01:43:25.000 Hey Alex, thank you for having me on.

01:43:26.000 And by the way, before I respond to that, I want to wish you a happy UN Day.

01:43:30.000 Today is October the 24th.

01:43:32.000 I'm sure you're going to go out and celebrate, right?

01:43:35.000 Yeah, I'm not going to be able to be downtown for the UN flag burning this year, but I'm sure they've got some smart folks who'll be down there taking care of that.

01:43:41.000 I'll go down there and I'll take care of it for you, Alex.

01:43:45.000 My response to all that is what the NRA is doing now is nothing new.

01:43:50.000 I mean, you know, back in 94, when they did the Brady Bill, The U.N.

01:43:55.000 backed that, and they're doing the same thing now.

01:43:57.000 It's like they think if they compromise with the devil that somehow or other everything is going to be alright.

01:44:04.000 But they know better than that.

01:44:05.000 These are top lobbyists, top Washington hacks.

01:44:08.000 Well, they're also attorneys, Alex, and anybody who's an attorney knows that they are steeped in precedent.

01:44:15.000 That's what they do.

01:44:17.000 Precedent is very important.

01:44:19.000 In any legal process, because they're always saying, well here they did it here, here they did it there, your honor, so now we can do it here.

01:44:25.000 That precedent is the bulwark of our legal system.

01:44:29.000 And they're out everywhere creating bad precedent knowingly.

01:44:33.000 Right, and here this fella Hal Brook has responded, of course, to a keep and bear arms attack on him.

01:44:39.000 You know, he's got a response out now.

01:44:41.000 And let me read a sentence from it.

01:44:44.000 Quote.

01:44:45.000 Since we are attacking the ban on handguns, and since the law otherwise requires all firearms to be registered, we are seeking to register handguns.

01:44:55.000 For residents in immediate danger, a registered handgun is better than no handgun, end quote.

01:45:00.000 Which isn't true, it sets... He knows he's setting a precedent there.

01:45:02.000 It sets the national precedent, yeah.

01:45:04.000 That's right.

01:45:05.000 Washington, D.C.

01:45:05.000 case, he's setting a precedent.

01:45:07.000 And, you know, he knows it.

01:45:09.000 He's a lawyer.

01:45:10.000 He's given the other side fodder for, you know, ammunition.

01:45:13.000 Well, he's even using their lingo, their buzzwords.

01:45:17.000 Just forget it, you know.

01:45:18.000 You can't compromise with the devil.

01:45:21.000 These people, I believe Mr. Pratt said it a while ago, they're a bunch of international socialist types.

01:45:27.000 They want your guns.

01:45:29.000 They won't stop until they get them.

01:45:31.000 You can't compromise with them.

01:45:32.000 Well, these are massive gun bills.

01:45:34.000 The NRA, even bigger evidence than we're here to runnish your handguns, your honor.

01:45:38.000 The big evidence is they're not against the assault weapons ban.

01:45:41.000 You know Alex, for the longest time I really fought agreeing with you about being an RA.

01:45:45.000 Instant Nix Strengthening Act, which funds the Total Information Awareness Network and 0.71

01:45:50.000 the Matrix System.

01:45:51.000 You know, Alex, for the longest time I really fought agreeing with you about the NRA.

01:45:56.000 I thought they were just misguided, but over the years since I've been, since you were

01:46:01.000 primarily involved in waking me up, you know, I've come around to your position that, you

01:46:07.000 They're just plain sellouts.

01:46:08.000 And they're taking a lot of really good Americans who think that the NRA is doing a job for them, and they're just selling them down the river.

01:46:16.000 Bob, I know you've got a lot of research, a lot of information.

01:46:18.000 You're great at that.

01:46:19.000 You've got your UNIDIR quotes of what the UN wants to do to us.

01:46:21.000 You've got your little documents there.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, you know that TV show that I do here in town called The Simple Truth?

01:46:27.000 It's on at 8 o'clock on Channel 16 in front of you, your local listeners, whoever's listening.

01:46:32.000 Produced by Jeff Kantoff and Kelly Taylor.

01:46:34.000 I'm in my fifth year now doing that show, Alex.

01:46:37.000 And the reason I've done so much research is, you know, a lot of it is because I want to disseminate on that show.

01:46:43.000 And the document you're talking about, the Unitair document, I was so tickled pink when I found that thing and I gave it to you.

01:46:50.000 Because, you know, I'm like the mouse that roared.

01:46:52.000 You know, I got a local audience and that's all I got.

01:46:54.000 And you were national and international.

01:46:57.000 And when I gave you this document back in 2000, 2000?

01:47:01.000 You broadcast it all over the world, and I thought, man, that is great.

01:47:05.000 And it got legs, because it was on the UN website, and it says in there that civilian ownership of firearms threatens the legitimate power monopoly of the state.

01:47:13.000 Well, let me read you the exact quote.

01:47:17.000 The document is called Removing Military Weapons from Civilian Hands, and it's written by Christoph Karl and Patricia Lewis.

01:47:23.000 They are the directors of UNIDIR, and for those of you who do not understand what UNIDIR stands for, it stands for United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research.

01:47:32.000 Now the quote, the killer quote, the worst thing in this whole obscene document is this.

01:47:39.000 It says right here that these weapons and what they're talking about In terms of these weapons, it's military-style weapons, and they're defining that as a semi-automatic weapon, such as an M1 Garand from World War II.

01:47:56.000 Here's the quote.

01:47:57.000 Such weapons...make it harder for the state to regain the legitimate monopoly of force.

01:48:05.000 So there you have, in the UN's own words, their own website, I didn't make it up, they're saying that state monopoly of force is a good thing.

01:48:14.000 But Alex, I thought state monopoly of force is the definition of totalitarianism.

01:48:19.000 Well, it's the definition of dictatorship.

01:48:21.000 Well, yeah, whatever.

01:48:22.000 I mean, they're saying that state monopoly of force is a good thing.

01:48:26.000 It's command and control, totalitarianism, a dictatorship, oligarchy, whatever you want to call it.

01:48:31.000 And later on in the document, they take a stab at... I hope that they're actually taking a stab at Larry Pratt's organization, Gun Owners of America, because apparently they're taking a stab at the NRA here.

01:48:45.000 Because they're more famous, I guess, or bigger.

01:48:47.000 Listen to this quote from the UNIDIR document back in 2000.

01:48:50.000 "If a concerted campaign were to be formed to remove such weapons from civilian hands,

01:48:57.000 this would have a number of distinct advantages.

01:49:00.000 It would be hard for the anti-control lobby to argue against such an initiative as

01:49:06.000 After all, who could easily justify the right for civilians to bear arms built for military purposes, and thus argue taking automatic and semi-automatic weapons off the streets?

01:49:18.000 There you have it, right there.

01:49:20.000 If you make a campaign from civil society, which is of course controlled by them, all those little NGOs that they fund, the elites fund, We could say that civilians have no right to bear military weapons, and who could come up with an argument against that?

01:49:34.000 And of course, me being a very simple person, say, what about the Second Amendment to the Constitution?

01:49:40.000 And Bob, you've broken a lot of other big stories.

01:49:42.000 Your son, now a state trooper, went to... No, he's still trying to get a job there, Alex.

01:49:46.000 Okay, well I thought you said he graduated and got a job.

01:49:48.000 He graduated, but he hasn't gotten a job yet.

01:49:50.000 Okay, well your son, I know graduated, and he was going out there at what, Sam Houston University?

01:49:56.000 And you've got the video of the bizarre stuff they were training him to do and how we're all going to be part of this world government.

01:50:04.000 Basically, the bottom line there was that they have, at the criminal justice building down there, they had a display in the lobby containing, among other things, the Chinese Communist flag proudly on display.

01:50:17.000 Stay there, we'll talk about it.

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01:54:48.000 Bob, I didn't mean to digress, but a side issue.

01:54:51.000 Your son graduated, what, a year or so ago?

01:54:53.000 Yeah, about a year ago.

01:54:55.000 From Sam Houston University, the big law enforcement organization out in East Texas.

01:55:01.000 And you talked about some of the stuff in the textbooks, the video you shot, and when the alumni come in, they take out all the communist flags and communist badges, showing their guilt.

01:55:09.000 Talk about that.

01:55:10.000 but we're gonna do we're gonna go down there and document the fact that uh...

01:55:14.000 you know they were displaying a communist chinese flag and a bunch of

01:55:16.000 soviet and uh... chinese police a battle

01:55:21.000 down there at the criminal justice building and we went down there to

01:55:24.000 to photograph it and uh... it but it was all gone and very disturbing that there

01:55:29.000 wasn't there but uh...

01:55:32.000 my my son told me don't worry about it it'll be back tomorrow it's alumni day

01:55:35.000 and they took all that stuff out of there they don't want to take off all

01:55:38.000 the old geezers they're schmoozing for money and so they put the stuff back after alumni day and we were

01:55:43.000 able to get documentation that yes they display the communist chinese

01:55:47.000 flag in the lobby and yes they display communist police medallions in their

01:55:52.000 showcase But more importantly, you went over what's in the textbook.

01:55:55.000 I remember you doing that.

01:55:56.000 Yes, the textbook that they had at the time for one of the courses was called Comparative Criminal Justice.

01:56:02.000 And one of the themes of that book was to indoctrinate the future police of America that the jury system is no good.

01:56:10.000 We have to get rid of it.

01:56:12.000 But before we do, we've got to go look at the Chinese system and the Swedish system and the German system and other systems, the Japanese system, so that we can have an alternative way to determine innocence or guilt.

01:56:24.000 It's a direct attack on the jury system is what they're teaching the police in the United States today.

01:56:30.000 And now the American Bar Association wants to get rid of it.

01:56:33.000 They're getting rid of attorney-client privilege.

01:56:35.000 Europe's getting rid of it.

01:56:36.000 They're reinstating double jeopardy.

01:56:37.000 This is a worldwide event.

01:56:39.000 Yeah, you know, the Second Amendment's kind of a little bit, for the last couple of years, been on the back burner because they're so busy going after all the other ones, you know?

01:56:47.000 It's amazing.

01:56:49.000 Bob, the NRA.

01:56:50.000 I mean, they... Hey, let me tell you something about the NRA, Alex.

01:56:53.000 I got a document in front of me that's printed by the United Nations back in 1999, okay?

01:57:00.000 It's called Disarmament, the world at a critical turning point, and it's a UN publication, alright?

01:57:06.000 So nobody can say I don't document what I say.

01:57:09.000 This is a compilation of their disarmament conference back then, and there is a section on it having to do with small arms.

01:57:19.000 And Tom Mason from the NRA is at this discussion, and there's a transcript of what he's saying at this UN conference.

01:57:28.000 And you want to talk about not defending the Second Amendment?

01:57:32.000 Let me just quote from this thing.

01:57:33.000 This is Tom Mason.

01:57:34.000 Real fast, we've got 30 seconds left.

01:57:37.000 Alright, let me preface my questions with a comment that throughout your whole presentations, there's not been one mention of hunting or self-defense.

01:57:45.000 How would you limit production of small arms and still preserve production of civilian weapons that are currently held by civilians for legitimate civilian purposes?

01:57:53.000 He's not talking about the Second Amendment.

01:57:55.000 He's talking about sport shooting and hunting and non-military applications.

01:57:59.000 The Second Amendment is all about military applications, and he knows it, and he's not defending it.

01:58:04.000 That's right.

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01:58:40.000 In the last hour, we have been exposing the treachery of the National Rifle Association.

01:58:44.000 as he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:51.000 In the last hour, we have been exposing the treachery of the National Rifle Association.

01:59:02.000 Not the members, not even a lot of the state directors, but the people that run it in D.C.

01:59:08.000 The history of them either blowing court cases, not warning their members about gun control

01:59:15.000 packages, or now supporting the reauthorization of the assault weapons ban.

01:59:21.000 They're doing nothing to stop it.

01:59:22.000 Supporting our Lady of Peace Act, or the NICS Strengthening Act, which is the DARPA Total Information Awareness Network system.

01:59:29.000 Just heard Larry Pratt in the last hour go over the subsections on that.

01:59:34.000 It's very, very scary.

01:59:36.000 We could have our Second Amendment back, Vermont-style concealed carry, the Second Amendment, if the NRA would actually inform its members, but it won't. 0.90

01:59:45.000 And they're not dropping the ball, they're not dumb, they're not buffoons.

01:59:49.000 They are steering us into incremental disarmament, and now it's accelerating.

01:59:55.000 We got Bob Dacey, a gun dealer here in town, owns a gun shop, good friend of mine, great researcher.

02:00:00.000 I didn't want to just have Larry Pratt on, I wanted to have somebody out there, an activist in the field, on and he's got a plethora of knowledge.

02:00:07.000 He's with us for this hour.

02:00:09.000 We're going to go to your calls as well.

02:00:10.000 The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.

02:00:16.000 Bob, let's go to calls.

02:00:17.000 All right.

02:00:18.000 Let's talk to Pat in Texas.

02:00:19.000 Pat, you're on the air.

02:00:20.000 Go ahead.

02:00:22.000 Okay.

02:00:22.000 I just wanted to get a couple of things from y'all.

02:00:25.000 I want to have the website where I can get that statement made by the UN.

02:00:33.000 That was on the UNIDEAR website for about a year.

02:00:35.000 It's still up there, Alex.

02:00:37.000 What subsection?

02:00:38.000 Do you have the URL?

02:00:39.000 Well, I've got it.

02:00:40.000 It's a big ol' long ugly monstrous thing.

02:00:42.000 You know, if you want me to read it?

02:00:44.000 Tell you what, just go to UN.org and type in UNIDEAR in the headline.

02:00:51.000 What's the headline?

02:00:52.000 Well, it's removing military weapons from civilian hands.

02:00:57.000 Actually, if you type the name of the authors, it'll come up.

02:01:00.000 Christoph Carl.

02:01:02.000 C-R-I-S-T-O-P-H-E. 1.00

02:01:04.000 Carl.

02:01:04.000 C-A-R-L-E.

02:01:06.000 And Patricia Lewis.

02:01:08.000 L-E-W-I-S. 0.98

02:01:10.000 You type that into a Google search engine or Yahoo or whatever, and this document will come up.

02:01:15.000 Well, I've posted it dozens of times, and it's buried somewhere in my site.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, and the main thing about this document, it's their own words.

02:01:24.000 They say, you know, Civilian ownership of semi-automatic weapons should be banned worldwide.

02:01:32.000 The Second Amendment is horrible, and state monopoly of force is a wonderful thing.

02:01:36.000 I mean, hey, they're hanging themselves with their own words.

02:01:39.000 State monopoly of force, that's dictatorship.

02:01:41.000 That's right.

02:01:43.000 Can I get the address of the gun shop?

02:01:44.000 I want to come by and talk to you face to face.

02:01:46.000 Well, I have a hardware store that has a small gun shop in it.

02:01:49.000 It's the hardware store in northwest Austin.

02:01:51.000 It's 5 Foot Springs Road at 183.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, Northwest Austin.

02:01:55.000 It's pretty easy to find where that's true.

02:01:56.000 And Bob also, we've got to get him some more.

02:01:58.000 He's almost sold out, but we're about to get him more of my books and videos.

02:02:01.000 He's got some of those in stock as well.

02:02:04.000 I don't own any guns. 0.78

02:02:05.000 I'm only 19, but I don't want to have my rights stripped before I have a chance to fully You know, I feel like sometimes I'm a hypocrite.

02:02:14.000 I sell guns and I have to go through the NIC system in order to do it.

02:02:17.000 I don't like it.

02:02:18.000 It's just what I have to do.

02:02:19.000 And I totally disagree with it.

02:02:21.000 So what does that make me?

02:02:22.000 I'm not sure, you know?

02:02:23.000 Well, look, as long as we're conscious of it and inform people, that's the point.

02:02:27.000 Try to repeal it.

02:02:30.000 But yes, sir, and if you haven't been raised around guns, you need to go take a firearm safety course.

02:02:35.000 Well, I plan on, as soon as I turn 21, I plan on going to get my concealed handgun Yeah, well, sure, but what I'm telling you is, is that we're against them making a law to have a weapon safety course, but if you weren't taught it at, you know, knee-high to a grasshopper, you need to go take a gun safety course.

02:02:54.000 Bob, who would you recommend people go to?

02:02:56.000 Red's Indoor Range or something?

02:02:57.000 Well, for a gun safety course, anybody.

02:03:00.000 I mean, you can go to Red's.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, I mean, that's probably the best range.

02:03:05.000 A lot of these guys, these NRA instructors, they're great guys.

02:03:09.000 Oh yeah, they mean well.

02:03:10.000 They're just controlled by the devil.

02:03:11.000 They're lower level.

02:03:12.000 They don't know what their upper level people are doing, selling them out.

02:03:16.000 Absolutely.

02:03:17.000 Pat, hold on Bob.

02:03:19.000 Pat, anything else?

02:03:20.000 No, that's it.

02:03:21.000 Thank you.

02:03:21.000 Thank you for the call.

02:03:22.000 We'll be right back, folks.

02:03:24.000 We'll talk to DJ and others when we return.

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02:06:49.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:56.000 The National Rip Your Amendment Off Organization, or the NRA, is being exposed here today.

02:07:09.000 NRA helping feds force more gun control on states and citizens.

02:07:13.000 Schumer-McCarthy gun control bill set to pass with NRA's help.

02:07:17.000 What do you do when you put a current and former board member of the National Rifle Association in the same room with two of the most vehemently anti-gun members of the House and Senate?

02:07:26.000 CNS News columnist Jeff Johnson, in his September 26th news report, on Thursday, the answer to that question was agreement.

02:07:36.000 The NRA is enthusiastically endorsing a gun control bill, but also supported by a vowed gun banner.

02:07:41.000 Senator Charles Schumer, Representative Carolyn McCarthy, Handgun Control Inc.

02:07:45.000 calls the bill a sensible step that will save lives.

02:07:48.000 Yes, register all gun owners and put you into the DARPA database.

02:07:51.000 You heard Larry Brett.

02:07:52.000 Note the word step, which is what they say about banning semi-automatic rifles, and then of course they want to ban Saturday night specials, anything under six inches, anything with a scope, a sniper weapon, on and on and on.

02:08:04.000 Everything.

02:08:04.000 They want to ban everything.

02:08:06.000 Due to ergonomic and safety features and what they've said in the past about completely banning handguns.

02:08:11.000 NRA's former and current board members took the stage with two of America's premier gun banners, smiling as they announced unequivocal support for the new gun control bill.

02:08:19.000 Representative Dingell called the two gun prohibitions patriotic Americans and praised them in other ways.

02:08:25.000 Senator Schumer and Representative McCarthy vehemently opposed the intent and purpose of the Second Amendment and consistently signed on to bills that would ban guns.

02:08:34.000 They were both elected to Congress and pride themselves on their gun banishment agendas.

02:08:39.000 Some would have a hard time calling such people patriotic.

02:08:41.000 NRA insider Dingo didn't stutter.

02:08:45.000 I got stacks of these.

02:08:46.000 They tried to block us in Texas when we're trying to beat gun bills. 0.99

02:08:51.000 Folks, they are traitorous.

02:08:52.000 You wonder why you're losing your rights when we're the majority, when we have the power, when it's in our Republic, when it's in our Bill of Rights? 0.99

02:08:59.000 Because these people are traitors.

02:09:01.000 DJ, Ralph, Spencer, and others, your calls are coming up here in a few minutes.

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02:09:10.000 Local researcher, television talk show host, gun dealer Bob Dacey is my guest to give us a grassroots view of this against the New World Order.

02:09:18.000 Comments to what I just read about.

02:09:20.000 Bob.

02:09:23.000 Think of it, in all the various rallies that I've been to down at the State Capitol over the years, some of them where you were prominently featured, I've never seen anybody from the NRA down there.

02:09:34.000 They refused to come to meetings where we had Senator Bob Smith.

02:09:37.000 They refused to come to meetings where Ron Paul's out giving a speech.

02:09:40.000 They called us in the Dallas Morning News extreme because we were against some of the gun bills.

02:09:46.000 Well, I'll tell you what's extreme, Alex.

02:09:48.000 If the NRA, and all you listeners out there, you listen up.

02:09:52.000 If the NRA has anything whatsoever to do with Charles Chucky Schumer, that's extreme. 0.99

02:09:59.000 Schumer is probably the worst, most disgusting, pathetic, Waco-murderin' baby-cover-upper Senator and the whole badgum United States Senate. 1.00

02:10:11.000 The guy is complete pond scum, and whenever I hear his name, my skin crawls. 1.00

02:10:16.000 And if the NRA is in a meeting with him agreeing on something, hey, that is like, hey, wake up, there's something wrong here. 0.99

02:10:23.000 A national press conference.

02:10:26.000 Chuck Schumer is literally, I mean, he's in the CFR, he is For those that don't know, this strengthening the NICS check, and we've read it, I've written analysis of it, we've had Larry Pratt and others on, we've had Aaron Zellman on, JPFO, Jews with the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

02:10:52.000 Arrest records, psychological records, military records, and I say IRS records, all your records, your credit reports, all for gun owners to start in a database, federally funding it with the states.

02:11:05.000 That's the matrix system, tied into total information awareness, and it gives it masses of hundreds of millions of dollars of funding.

02:11:12.000 So, again, folks, this is more than gun control.

02:11:17.000 and the average person has no idea. That's why we need to be on more AM and FM's,

02:11:22.000 more internet listeners. That's why we need you to tell everybody about the show,

02:11:25.000 because we'll talk about it. We'll read the bills. Bob Dacey, what do you have to say to them adding

02:11:30.000 this national registration of gun owners and tracking all our activities without warrants?

02:11:35.000 It doesn't surprise me, Alex. They don't support the Constitution.

02:11:40.000 They're out to destroy the Constitution.

02:11:42.000 They're out to destroy the Republic.

02:11:43.000 They're out to destroy the Bill of Rights.

02:11:45.000 I mean, those bills you're talking about.

02:11:46.000 Schumer had a bill a few years ago, I think it was Senate Bill 2525, where you're supposed to fill out on your 1040 form the make, model, and serial number of all the guns you had, and register them with the IRS, and send in 50 bucks for each one, no matter how long you've had it.

02:12:01.000 I mean, these people have no shame.

02:12:05.000 None.

02:12:06.000 And then they were going to use that money, and states are doing this, some of the states have passed similar things, this didn't pass, to pay for billboards and TV ads to demonize guns.

02:12:14.000 Yeah, well, you know, they had that Smith and Wesson agreement several years ago, which never really went anywhere, but that agreement... You've got to show folks the wickedness, the dastardly sneaking about.

02:12:24.000 Cover that, recap that.

02:12:26.000 Because you're a gun dealer.

02:12:27.000 You got the basic racketeering order from Smith & Wesson when it was red coat owned. 0.88

02:12:31.000 You got that.

02:12:32.000 We helped expose it.

02:12:33.000 And then we'll go to these calls.

02:12:35.000 Tell folks about that.

02:12:36.000 Well, I want to make sure people understand that Smith & Wesson is no longer owned by the British.

02:12:40.000 It's owned by an American company now.

02:12:42.000 Out of Arizona?

02:12:42.000 Yeah, they're trying to be good boys now.

02:12:44.000 It's a totally different company.

02:12:46.000 But back then, I mean, they were agreeing with the Clinton administration to impose all these draconian uh... manufacturing requirements performance requirements

02:12:58.000 uh... magazine capacity requirements safety requirements

02:13:01.000 all these requirements and also not only on the gun itself but on the dealers themselves that wanted to be a smith and

02:13:08.000 wesson dealer as a matter of fact uh... back then uh... of course i was

02:13:12.000 following it uh... and they said that if you were going to be a smith

02:13:14.000 and wesson dealer you could not sell high capacity magazines of any type

02:13:19.000 And you had to keep children back, what, 14 feet, blackout your windows?

02:13:23.000 No.

02:13:24.000 Not have signs?

02:13:25.000 You had to have some sort of an arrangement whereby you could physically restrain anyone under the age of 18. 0.73

02:13:32.000 You also had to have a fireproof vault.

02:13:35.000 On top of your burglar bars.

02:13:37.000 Right.

02:13:38.000 And you had to make sure that somehow or other you're going to keep a kid away from the evil gun counter.

02:13:43.000 They were trying to equate firearms with pornography.

02:13:47.000 Basically, that was the connection.

02:13:48.000 And then let me add this.

02:13:49.000 When gun dealers and distributors and manufacturers said no, they tried to start racketeering suits to threaten people to sign an agreement, a civil agreement.

02:13:59.000 Right, and that civil agreement, of course they all balked at it except Smith & Wesson, but the civil agreement had a clause in it which was the biggest joke.

02:14:07.000 What it said, very specifically, was that we agree, we the gun manufacturer who signed this agreement, agree that whatever further design implementations and restrictions and whatever you put on guns in the future, we will have already agreed to it without even knowing what they It was a blank check sharecropper's contract and I had the CEO of Taurus on during the period.

02:14:30.000 He said he was in a meeting with the UN and the gun groups where they said you better sign on to this or it's over for you.

02:14:36.000 I mean, yeah, again, the point, Alex, that the NRA boys don't seem to understand, although they actually do, is the other side is the devil.

02:14:47.000 You cannot compromise with the devil.

02:14:51.000 You lose every time you do.

02:14:52.000 That's it. 1.00

02:14:53.000 The NRA has been losing for years and they're not stupid. 0.98

02:14:56.000 Yeah, they're throwing the fights. 0.99

02:14:58.000 Yeah, they're throwing the fight. 0.88

02:14:59.000 Let's talk to DJ in Texas.

02:15:02.000 DJ, you're on the air.

02:15:04.000 Howdy.

02:15:05.000 Yes.

02:15:05.000 Well, Pat answered one of my questions for me by finding the location of your gun dealer friend there because I was wondering, I've been interested in Possibly purchasing a firearm.

02:15:18.000 I didn't have any interest until I accidentally discovered all this what was going on a few months ago and realized what all was going on.

02:15:26.000 The other thing I wanted to know is you have the phone number for Gun Owners of America.

02:15:30.000 I don't have it in front of me.

02:15:33.000 It's like triple eight.

02:15:34.000 I don't want to give a number out wrong.

02:15:36.000 It's like triple eight something six guns.

02:15:39.000 Go to... Do you have a computer?

02:15:43.000 No.

02:15:44.000 Well, just have your neighbor who does go to gunowners.org.

02:15:46.000 The phone number's right there.

02:15:48.000 Okay.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, that's what I was wanting to know, because I think all of us need to, even if we don't own any firearms at present, we need to be supporting these people.

02:15:56.000 Well, you need to own firearms, and you need to go to Bob Dacey and buy an Incident Access Pistol Safe if you live in Austin.

02:16:02.000 That's what I've got, and that way it's safe around your children.

02:16:06.000 You can get to it in about five seconds.

02:16:08.000 Put it in a little nightstand by your bed.

02:16:11.000 You need to go take a fire safety course because I was given grueling military style training from the time I was four years old by my grandfather and my father and that's why I can shoot a deer in the head at 400 yards when it's running.

02:16:24.000 Well I learned how to shoot in the military.

02:16:26.000 Well good thing, go out and buy a gun.

02:16:28.000 You should have one then.

02:16:29.000 Yeah.

02:16:31.000 Yeah I agree with you.

02:16:32.000 It's getting nuts out here.

02:16:35.000 And thanks a lot, Alex, for all that you're doing.

02:16:38.000 Well, thank you so much.

02:16:40.000 Hey, Bob, I didn't mean this to be an infomercial, but tell folks where you're located again in Austin.

02:16:44.000 Well, again, I didn't come on here to promote myself, but if you insist.

02:16:48.000 My hardware store is called the Hardware Store Incorporated.

02:16:50.000 It's located at Spicewood Springs Road and 183 out in northwest Austin.

02:16:55.000 You've got evil patriotic literature in books and tapes, and you've got guns.

02:16:59.000 Yeah, we do a lot of work.

02:17:03.000 I'm a member of the John Birch Society at the grassroots level, and the John Birch Society is an extremely good resource if you want to know what's been going on for all these years and why.

02:17:13.000 Let's take another call.

02:17:14.000 Let's talk to Ralph in Texas.

02:17:17.000 Ralph, you're on the air.

02:17:19.000 Hi, Alex.

02:17:20.000 My question is, I try to tell people that the NRA is selling them down the river and that they're giving their members money to the United Nations, and I can't find any, and the NRA won't tell me, but how much does it cost them to be an NGO in the United Nations?

02:17:33.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they are, I don't have all the numbers in front of me, but we've covered it.

02:17:39.000 Go to the UN's website, go to non-governmental organizations, type in NRA and you'll find it.

02:17:44.000 How long have they been members, Bob?

02:17:46.000 Well, longer than I care to remember.

02:17:48.000 The thing about the NGO thing is they've got to agree to jump through hoops and do good work for the U.N.

02:17:54.000 in order to be an NGO.

02:17:56.000 And if you know anything, if you've researched anything about the U.N., you know that you should have nothing to do with them whatsoever because they are nothing but a The totalitarian organization in sheep's clothing and they are literally out to disarm America.

02:18:11.000 Stay there, Ralph.

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02:22:35.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

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02:22:48.000 In every industry, factories are shutting down, layoffs are intensifying.

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02:22:59.000 We're witnessing tens of millions of illegals from Latin America pouring in, millions from Asia, millions from Eastern Europe, bringing with them uncontrolled disease, crime, you name it. 0.98

02:23:10.000 Don't laugh, untreatable tuberculosis.

02:23:14.000 And the borders are wide open, but they say, oh that's okay, we'll just watch you and take more of your liberties.

02:23:19.000 And they have some poultry operation where they arrest 300 illegals and make you think they're doing something. 0.99

02:23:24.000 That shows that we are putting pressure on them.

02:23:27.000 We've got the government setting precedents to kill people who aren't even in comas.

02:23:30.000 We've got fake partial birth abortion bans of three days ago. 0.88

02:23:34.000 It didn't ban partial birth abortion! 0.99

02:23:36.000 I've read the bill!

02:23:39.000 The good news is they're at least having to respond to us on the surface, but before we go back to uh... Ralph and Spencer and Jeff and John and others, Bob, I have the article here where Pat Robertson endorsed Arnold Schwarzenegger.

02:23:53.000 Again, this is the new conservatism.

02:23:54.000 Anti-gun, pro-abortion, open border, Groping women, saying he admires Hitler, in hardcore porno mags, and this is our new conservative endorsed by George Bush and also endorsed by Pat Robertson.

02:24:11.000 How do we respond to this, where they call us communists because we're pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-family, and then the neocons are really the people pushing a command and control system, as Ron Paul exposed in his neocon speech.

02:24:25.000 You know, the thing about Arnold Schwarzenegger, uh, that's all mainstream stuff.

02:24:29.000 I mean, the fact of the matter is, look at the Republican Party platform saying the state of Texas, you know, read it.

02:24:35.000 It's pretty darn good, really.

02:24:36.000 I mean, it's pretty darn good.

02:24:37.000 Read that.

02:24:38.000 Get us out of the CFR, repeal gun laws, abolish the Federal Reserve.

02:24:42.000 Get us out of the UN.

02:24:43.000 I mean, you know, protect the right to life.

02:24:46.000 I mean, it's very good, but you're grassroots Republicans.

02:24:50.000 They don't have a clue.

02:24:51.000 They do not have a clue as to what their so-called leaders up in Washington are doing.

02:24:55.000 They'll argue.

02:24:55.000 I had Angel Shumai on Keeping Bear Arms.

02:24:57.000 He'll be on a show reading the NRA's quotes about how they want to register guns. 0.99

02:25:00.000 And they'll go, you come, you shut up! 0.81

02:25:02.000 Have you had people tell you that when you're exposing the traitors? 0.97

02:25:06.000 They go, no, that's not true!

02:25:07.000 That's impossible!

02:25:08.000 They just look at you funny sometimes.

02:25:11.000 I've never actually been insulted in all the years I've been doing this.

02:25:13.000 But I know, you know, you are so outspoken.

02:25:15.000 I remember back when Clinton was You know, a lot of people were screaming at you being a super, super conservative as you were attacking Clinton.

02:25:25.000 And now that Bush, the so-called conservative, is in office, now they attack you being a liberal.

02:25:30.000 No, you are, and I am, and we are, constitutionalists.

02:25:34.000 We want to go by the rule book.

02:25:36.000 That's what we want to do.

02:25:38.000 Regardless of which side of the false political spectrum we're opposed to, if they're not following the Constitution, if they're not following the Bill of Rights, if they're not following the Declaration of Independence, we're against them.

02:25:47.000 And if people will get back to that litmus test, we can get our republic back because the majority of Americans agree with us.

02:25:54.000 That gives us the force to enforce not the democracy, but the republic.

02:25:58.000 Not only do we have the numbers, but we have the law.

02:26:01.000 Yeah, you know, I've had a lot of discussions with attorneys in my store, and I've kind of trapped them into having to agree with me.

02:26:08.000 I say, did President Bush put his hand on a Bible as a conditioned precedent to taking office and swear to protect and defend the Constitution?

02:26:16.000 Answer is obviously yes.

02:26:18.000 Is the Bill of Rights part of the Constitution?

02:26:20.000 Answer, yes.

02:26:21.000 Is the Fourth Amendment part of the Bill of Rights?

02:26:24.000 Answer, yes.

02:26:25.000 Does the Fourth Amendment require you to go to a judge, reasonable cause, get a warrant, before you go out and search and seize?

02:26:33.000 Yes.

02:26:34.000 Did Bush sign the Patriot Act, which blows away the Fourth Amendment?

02:26:38.000 Yes.

02:26:39.000 Okay, next question.

02:26:40.000 And this new gun bill the NRA is endorsing gets rid of the Fourth Amendment, too.

02:26:44.000 Yeah, and so the question is, Bush signed the Patriot Act, at which Section 213, for example, blows away the Fourth Amendment.

02:26:52.000 My question is, did he break his sacred oath of office?

02:26:56.000 Answer is yes.

02:26:57.000 Let's talk to, let Ralph finish up.

02:27:00.000 Ralph, go ahead and finish up.

02:27:04.000 Okay, Ralph hung up.

02:27:05.000 I told Ralph to hold.

02:27:06.000 Let's talk to Spencer in Ohio.

02:27:07.000 Spencer, go ahead.

02:27:08.000 Yes, sir, Alex.

02:27:09.000 You know, with your feet on terra firma, could you tell me who suspended the writ of habeas corpus without congressional approval?

02:27:17.000 And secondly... Yeah, the military-industrial complex did.

02:27:21.000 We're now in a dictatorship.

02:27:23.000 Right.

02:27:24.000 Now, could I have your comments concerning Kofi Annan's statements in the Smithsonian from January 2003?

02:27:29.000 He says, to do good, you sometimes have to deal with the devil.

02:27:34.000 Now, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

02:27:36.000 Now, wait a minute.

02:27:37.000 I hope you'll send me that.

02:27:38.000 You're saying he said that?

02:27:39.000 Yes, I have that quote.

02:27:41.000 And he says he's an egalitarian, and he believes in the equality of all men.

02:27:46.000 Well, how can you have that unless you have the equalizers?

02:27:50.000 Well, Bush, in the 2000 election, said in his campaign, the flyers, Bush is a communitarian.

02:27:55.000 The dictionary, until 20 years ago, said that one who promotes communist systems.

02:27:59.000 Yeah, and the Masons infiltrated the NRA. 0.58

02:28:03.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

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02:35:08.000 We were talking about Kofi Annan when we took the break there.

02:35:13.000 Let's talk about Kofi Annan for a second.

02:35:14.000 Now you have to understand, anybody out there listening, you have to understand that the United Nations is a creature of the globalists.

02:35:20.000 It is not an entity unto itself.

02:35:22.000 It is their enforcement arm.

02:35:23.000 It's like NATO or IMF or World Bank.

02:35:25.000 They're all just heads on the Hydra.

02:35:27.000 That's right.

02:35:27.000 It's their intended vehicle to establish their New World Order.

02:35:31.000 And Kofi Annan, therefore, is merely the head puppet.

02:35:35.000 He's not a powerful man by himself.

02:35:37.000 Just like Kurt Voltheim, the Nazi. 0.68

02:35:39.000 And what about their Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

02:35:42.000 Sounds good until you get to Article 30 and 31.

02:35:45.000 Well, 29 and 30 actually, but this is the deal about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and if you're new to the UN and you think that what we're saying is kind of weird, all you've got to do is go to the UN website and print up the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and read it.

02:35:59.000 It very clearly states in Article 29 that you may not exercise any human rights if you disagree with the UN.

02:36:05.000 It's Article 29, Section 3.

02:36:07.000 Quote, these rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

02:36:14.000 So the whole thing, I call it, the entire U.N.

02:36:18.000 is what I call an excrement sandwich with chocolate frosting on it.

02:36:22.000 I mean, it looks really good, but don't bite into it, you're going to get a surprise.

02:36:26.000 Well, also, I mean, I went to a Chinese food restaurant Monday on a business meeting, and I know these people, they're nice folks, they watch the show, you know, they're Chinese.

02:36:37.000 There's this little, pretty little, looks like a lunch box up at the front counter.

02:36:41.000 And I go, it was UNICEF and some other UN programs.

02:36:46.000 And I walk over and I go, you know, ma'am, I've known you for five years.

02:36:49.000 I go, this is bad.

02:36:50.000 I know you think the UN is good.

02:36:51.000 She goes, oh, our public school told us to do it.

02:36:54.000 And you know, her daughter, who's, I guess, like eight years old in elementary school, because her daughter's usually up there while she's up there.

02:37:03.000 They go, oh, the school told us to do this.

02:37:03.000 I know the family.

02:37:05.000 All the children are doing it here in AISD.

02:37:08.000 Well, that's nothing new.

02:37:10.000 I mean, when I was a little kid back in the 60s, we had the little UNICEF boxes, too, and the school told us to do it.

02:37:16.000 And I dutifully went out there when I was a little kid and trick-or-treated for UNICEF.

02:37:20.000 Little did I know that in the 60s during the Vietnam War, UNICEF was collecting money and sending it to the North Vietnamese at the same time they were shooting and killing American soldiers.

02:37:31.000 Well, it even gets worse.

02:37:32.000 They're part of the vaccination program, the sterilization program. 0.57

02:37:35.000 We have the Henry Kissinger documents on that.

02:37:37.000 I mean, it just gets worse and worse, but you were going to say something about Kofi Annan.

02:37:40.000 Well, basically, you know, he had to prove his mettle in order to become the Secretary General of the U.N., and he did that in 1994.

02:37:47.000 He was in charge of African affairs at the U.N.

02:37:50.000 back in 1994.

02:37:52.000 And of course, that's when the Rwanda massacre happened, and the UN force on the ground under

02:37:59.000 a Canadian general by the name of Roméo Dyer got wind that one group was going to massacre

02:38:04.000 the other one, and he contacted Kofi Annan and said, "Listen, we can stop this.

02:38:09.000 What should I do?" 0.96

02:38:10.000 And Kofi Annan said, "Nothing."

02:38:13.000 And Kofi Annan is therefore partially responsible.

02:38:16.000 Also, the New American, before I interrupt you, the New American, I remember, has the articles with them burning kids over fires and doing all that, but that was in Somalia.

02:38:25.000 But also, if I remember correctly, the UN would set up bases, pull out of the refugee camp at night, let the others kill them, and it was reports that the UN had machine guns shooting those that tried to run.

02:38:38.000 Well, however it happened, you had 800,000 people massacred right under the UN's nose, and at the very least, they did nothing to stop it.

02:38:49.000 Well, wherever the UN goes, Bob, there's piles of dead bodies. 0.85

02:38:52.000 Well, there's piles of dead bodies, and there's Sex, prostitution, brothels that are set up. 0.98

02:38:59.000 We know they have to service the soldiers. 0.99

02:39:01.000 I mean, gigantic hypocrisy at the U.N.

02:39:04.000 Well, the U.N.

02:39:05.000 has been caught with Dying Court kidnapping 200,000 women and children in the year 2000 alone.

02:39:10.000 They've lost in court.

02:39:11.000 That's now admitted, Bob.

02:39:12.000 Yeah, and of course, George Bush went before the U.N.

02:39:14.000 a few weeks ago in his great speech and talked about how we need to eliminate this child, this sex thing going on.

02:39:20.000 And he's sitting there, you know, the pot is sitting there calling the kettle black.

02:39:23.000 I mean, here the U.N.' 's guilty of this

02:39:26.000 All over the world, all the time, the sex trade follows the UN wherever they go, and how sanctimonious of them to say we need to get rid of it.

02:39:34.000 We have a giant section on that on PrisonPlanet.com if you're doubting us, BBC, AP, you name it.

02:39:39.000 We don't just make these claims here, folks.

02:39:40.000 Believe me, we'd be liable.

02:39:42.000 It may sound horrible, it is horrible.

02:39:44.000 It may sound unbelievable.

02:39:45.000 It's going on, okay?

02:39:46.000 As bad as it gets.

02:39:48.000 Who's up next?

02:39:49.000 I guess it's Jeff in Texas.

02:39:50.000 Jeff, you're on the air.

02:39:51.000 Go ahead.

02:39:52.000 Hi, Alex.

02:39:54.000 Let me give you a little background real quick.

02:39:55.000 I'm a retired Chief of Police, 26 years, with the Texas Department.

02:40:00.000 I'm a graduate of the FBI National Academy, the Law Enforcement Management Institute in Texas.

02:40:05.000 I have a degree in History and Political Science.

02:40:09.000 I was an Emergency Management Coordinator for the city where I was also the Chief of Police, so I've been to all the FEMA stuff and the DPS, the Emergency Operations School.

02:40:19.000 And I'm telling you, Alex, Your listeners, I wish, would read the Federalist Papers.

02:40:26.000 The Second Amendment makes all gun laws illegal.

02:40:29.000 You know, we fought a revolution to get away from European systems, and we're returning to that. 0.99

02:40:35.000 A feudalistic society, and the UN, I agree with you 100%, is pushing this, but they're doing it, Alex, through our state and our federal government.

02:40:45.000 We started in the 60s with this LEAA, Law Enforcement Administration.

02:40:49.000 They get their tentacles in you.

02:40:51.000 And they control you.

02:40:52.000 And a lot of my police officers were just unaware of this.

02:40:56.000 Half of them wouldn't vote.

02:40:58.000 Half of them didn't know the issues.

02:41:01.000 Half of them don't even know what the Second Amendment is.

02:41:04.000 Well, sir, under the UN's goals, the police are going to be disarmed after we are.

02:41:10.000 Let me tell you something, Alex.

02:41:12.000 They're using the police, and the police are just like the followers of Adolf Hitler. 0.73

02:41:17.000 They'll go right along with this, and then they're disarmed.

02:41:21.000 That's population control.

02:41:22.000 That's what they want.

02:41:24.000 If you read the Federalist Papers, the Second Amendment was number two on there because that protects all of our basic rights.

02:41:31.000 The Second Amendment is what keeps us free.

02:41:35.000 But the federal government, Schumer, all these liberal politicians, they're trying to take our gun rights away.

02:41:42.000 And I'm a life member of the NRA.

02:41:44.000 The best guy they ever had up there was Neil Knox.

02:41:47.000 They gave him the boot, Alex.

02:41:49.000 Well, I know.

02:41:51.000 And so I'm really disgruntled.

02:41:53.000 They're selling this out.

02:41:56.000 And I know what gun control does.

02:41:58.000 I'm, like I say, 26 years a cop.

02:42:00.000 It doesn't work.

02:42:02.000 That's not the answer.

02:42:03.000 You read the FBI stats.

02:42:05.000 Everybody should read the crime in the U.S.

02:42:08.000 Every year it's published.

02:42:09.000 You can see who's committing the crime.

02:42:11.000 Uh, if I'm not going to worry about being busted for a murder rap, why am I going to worry about a gun law violation?

02:42:18.000 Well, look at the places with the gun control.

02:42:19.000 That's where most of the crime's going on.

02:42:21.000 Exactly.

02:42:22.000 And I've said this for years.

02:42:23.000 I mean, I'm an anathema to some of my former colleagues because I just don't go along with this spiel.

02:42:31.000 Well, what did Mark Twain say?

02:42:33.000 In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and feared, but in time, when his cause succeeds, the tem had joined him because then it cost nothing to be a patriot.

02:42:41.000 That's right.

02:42:41.000 And, uh, I mean, look, when we, when we got the Patriot Act repealed in Austin, they had Chief Nee, this California transplant, Behind the closed doors, we went back there and saw him with two FBI guys standing right behind him.

02:42:54.000 They had the Deputy U.S.

02:42:55.000 Attorney in there trying to twist arms and threatening people.

02:42:59.000 I got right in his face.

02:43:00.000 But let me tell you, we're federalized here in Austin, and the feds are running things, and they panicked because we're pushing them out of here.

02:43:07.000 Comments to that?

02:43:08.000 It's not just Austin, Alex.

02:43:09.000 It's everywhere, though.

02:43:11.000 Everywhere.

02:43:12.000 And I'm telling you, it's a master plan.

02:43:16.000 They're brainwashing a lot of these people. 0.93

02:43:19.000 I would say, read the Federalist Papers, know that we're America.

02:43:22.000 We're not Europe.

02:43:23.000 We're not Germany. 0.88

02:43:23.000 in the show, they've seen a lot of what we talk about coming true, what would you say 0.88

02:43:27.000 to them?

02:43:28.000 I would say read the Federalist Papers, know that we're America, we're not Europe, we're

02:43:34.000 not Germany, we're not France.

02:43:36.000 Read the Federalist Papers.

02:43:38.000 That tells you exactly what's going on.

02:43:40.000 And it also disgraces all of our veterans who fought and died and were wounded to preserve America.

02:43:45.000 My dad fought four years in World War II in the 16th Tank Division in Europe.

02:43:53.000 We are trying to return to a feudalistic society under the auspices of the UN.

02:43:58.000 That's what they're pushing.

02:43:59.000 Well that's it.

02:44:00.000 I totally agree.

02:44:01.000 Do you have any comments to what Jeff's saying, Bob?

02:44:06.000 Talking about the Federalist Papers, there's a very famous quote from, I think it was Federalist No.

02:44:11.000 by Alexander Hamilton, little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at

02:44:16.000 large than to have them properly armed.

02:44:19.000 I wonder what he meant by that?

02:44:21.000 It's a mystery, isn't it?

02:44:22.000 Yeah, you know, apparently people can't figure this stuff out anymore.

02:44:26.000 Most people haven't even heard of the Federalist Papers.

02:44:28.000 Well, that's because they go to those public schools where they teach them that you don't have a right to keep power. 0.99

02:44:33.000 80 plus percent of high school seniors don't know what the Fourth Amendment is.

02:44:36.000 70 percent of Americans don't know where Iraq is, but they'll tell you their opinion about it.

02:44:42.000 Alex, when I first met you back in 1998, remember that time in my office when we had that long discussion?

02:44:48.000 I handed you a textbook from my senior level high school here in Austin, the very same high school you graduated from, Anderson High School, where the government textbook said that the Second Amendment has been widely misunderstood.

02:45:01.000 It does not guarantee a right to keep and bear arms.

02:45:04.000 Remember that?

02:45:05.000 Yes, and we had a general over, he was a general in the reserves, and he had the army helicopters land our last day of school, and then the year after I left, one of my friends said, Alex, you're not going to believe it, this is before I was even on the radio or TV, I was in college, he said, The principal got on the speaker and said, uh, graduates have a good summer, and remember, things have changed, you're in the New World Order.

02:45:29.000 Hey, it's even worse than that, Alex.

02:45:31.000 The medal that they give the Anderson High School graduates now... Oh, wait a minute, your children!

02:45:35.000 I remember later you told me about that too, about the New World Order.

02:45:38.000 Yeah, well, the medal that they give you when you graduate from Anderson High School now has a U.N.

02:45:42.000 emblem on it.

02:45:44.000 Well, and for those that don't know, this is, you know, the middle class, nice high school, Northwest Austin, and black helicopters, troops, frisking the children, New World Order this, New World Order that.

02:45:56.000 Bob, in fact, after I talked about that, later you had children.

02:46:01.000 Tell folks about the U.N.

02:46:02.000 comment.

02:46:03.000 I'm sorry, say again?

02:46:05.000 The New World Order comment.

02:46:06.000 In fact, you reported on that too, over the loudspeaker.

02:46:09.000 This was the New World Order.

02:46:11.000 Well, specifically, I don't remember that, Alex.

02:46:14.000 It's just a constant thing.

02:46:15.000 They call themselves the International School.

02:46:19.000 And they have several different logos on this medal and of course one of them is the U.N.

02:46:23.000 logo and they're, you know, that's the way they are.

02:46:26.000 I mean, that's what they're teaching these kids.

02:46:28.000 Okay, let me get a final comment from Jeff and I've got to go to John, Paul, Johnny, Jack.

02:46:33.000 I would say this, the International Association of Police, all of these organizations through our government are operated under U.N. 0.55

02:46:43.000 auspices.

02:46:44.000 yeah they're not governmental organization members first ten amendment

02:46:48.000 dr constitution known as the bill bills of rights show me one instance where

02:46:55.000 the nineteen forties every one of those

02:46:58.000 everyone every one of those amendment

02:47:02.000 The first ten have been violated.

02:47:03.000 Well, absolutely, and thanks for the call.

02:47:05.000 Call back anytime, sir, with your insight.

02:47:08.000 We've left the Ten Commandments and the Ten Bill of Rights.

02:47:10.000 We've moved to the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto.

02:47:13.000 I challenge everyone to read it.

02:47:14.000 In fact, in the back of Dissent and Tyranny, I have the Bill of Rights compared to the Communist Manifesto.

02:47:19.000 Ask yourself what system we're under now.

02:47:22.000 Let's talk to John in Ohio, then Paul, John, and Jack.

02:47:25.000 John in Ohio, you're on the air.

02:47:27.000 Yes, I agree that the neocons and the military-industrial complex are behind 9-11.

02:47:32.000 I believe that they're trying to establish a corporate fascist world order.

02:47:35.000 I'm totally against gun control.

02:47:38.000 And I consider myself an unaffiliated leftist and socialist.

02:47:42.000 And I think some of the interpretations that you're giving to this is really helping that very military-industrial complex that you're You're trying to oppose, because when you talk about, for instance, the United Nations.

02:47:56.000 The United Nations is pretty much controlled 90% by that corporate fascist military industrial complex.

02:48:03.000 They founded it!

02:48:04.000 They paid for it!

02:48:05.000 Well, I think that too often the conservatives complain about the 10% that is not controlled.

02:48:12.000 The 10% that is not controlled that would perhaps hold accountable That's window dressing to keep you in the system.

02:48:18.000 resolution criticizes the attack on Iraq. That's window dressing to keep you in the system.

02:48:23.000 If you're 90% controlled, you're 100% controlled.

02:48:26.000 Well, the point I'm making here is usually that the right-wingers, for instance, when you're talking about the military-industrial

02:48:33.000 complex in Guatemala, they killed a quarter million people down there for the

02:48:38.000 military-industrial complex.

02:48:40.000 Yeah, they'll do it under fascism, they'll do it under socialism.

02:48:43.000 It's all command and control.

02:48:44.000 But the point was, it was done under anti-socialist, anti-communist... Did you hear the former police chief, sir?

02:48:49.000 He called it feudalism.

02:48:50.000 Forget all these terms.

02:48:52.000 This is feudalism, sir.

02:48:53.000 This is slavery.

02:48:53.000 I understand that, but I want to make a specific point.

02:48:56.000 Larry Pratt at one time supported That very same genocide in Guatemala in the guise of arming ourselves in the same way that right-wing death squads were armed in Guatemala.

02:49:06.000 Now, if we're going to brainwash people to think that the enemy is not the military-industrial complex, but leftists, we're going to be auxiliaries to that very same military-industrial complex.

02:49:15.000 Leftists are funded by the leftist movement.

02:49:17.000 The New Age movement is run by the military.

02:49:21.000 You've got to understand you're controlled, bud.

02:49:23.000 Your organizations are controlled.

02:49:25.000 Now, we're here exposing the NRA.

02:49:27.000 Can you at least come forward that the Socialists are in control?

02:49:29.000 We'll be back.

02:49:30.000 Final segment, more calls.

02:49:31.000 Stay with me.

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02:52:42.000 Go ahead.

02:52:43.000 Yes, Mr. Jones, I was putting my boat away and I wanted to call you because I picked

02:52:49.000 up my wife's magazine on the deck of the boat.

02:52:51.000 She left it there.

02:52:52.000 It's the October 2003 copy of Vanity Fair.

02:52:57.000 On page 162 of that magazine, this month's issue, there is an article written in there and I'd like you to have the author on your show.

02:53:07.000 He writes about smuggling the Bin Laden family out of the United States During 9-11 and the people that were used, he names their names, of who was used to get the Bin Laden family out of the United States, fly on days that there were no flights in the United States.

02:53:27.000 Now, 144 members of the Bin Laden family, other known terrorist organizations.

02:53:32.000 And he says the airports that they were flown out of, The people were there, the private investigator's name who was hired to usher them out.

02:53:39.000 Sir, sir, sir, sir, we broke that two years ago.

02:53:42.000 The Miami Herald actually broke it, but yes, there's new details out, the former terror czar admits all this.

02:53:47.000 Do me a favor, tear that out and mail it to me.

02:53:49.000 Yes, sir.

02:53:50.000 And I promise I'll have them on.

02:53:52.000 Comments to what John was just saying.

02:53:56.000 Well, you know, wouldn't it be a shame to hear about what happened to the Lusitania?

02:53:59.000 How it got attacked there and got sunk and everything?

02:54:02.000 I mean, that's old, old, old news.

02:54:05.000 What's new about it is the fact that it appeared in a mainstream publication.

02:54:11.000 Absolutely.

02:54:11.000 That's the new part.

02:54:12.000 John, anything else?

02:54:14.000 Well, it gives a better reference to who are the people that were at the scene, what airlines, and who authorized the money to fly them out.

02:54:23.000 I saw reports about the Vanity Fair.

02:54:25.000 I didn't see the Vanity Fair.

02:54:27.000 Please send it to me.

02:54:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:28.000 Thank you, John.

02:54:29.000 Good to hear from you.

02:54:30.000 Jack in Rhode Island and Paul in Florida.

02:54:32.000 Jack, you're on the air on one of our great affiliates.

02:54:34.000 Go ahead.

02:54:35.000 Oh, he just hung up.

02:54:36.000 Okay, we'll go to Paul in Florida.

02:54:38.000 Paul, you're on the air.

02:54:40.000 Hello, Alex?

02:54:41.000 Yes.

02:54:41.000 Okay, I just want to make sure we're still here.

02:54:43.000 Listen, the special legislation session they just had here in Florida?

02:54:46.000 Yes.

02:54:47.000 With that girl?

02:54:48.000 Yes.

02:54:48.000 Okay, that was frosting on the cake.

02:54:50.000 The real thing they were voting for was $30 million in unclaimed lottery tickets that were supposed to roll over and go back into the cookie jar.

02:55:00.000 That was the main agenda, and they stuck this other thing as a cover-up.

02:55:03.000 And so they're making Bush looks like he's the guy with the white horse, and what they're really doing is they've sold thirty million dollars from the lot of money.

02:55:12.000 Well, thirty million dollars is chicken feed for someone like Florida, but Bush was not going to save Terry Schiavo until there was massive pressure, and I appreciate the call, Paul.

02:55:22.000 Interesting point, I'll check it out.

02:55:24.000 I'll check it out.

02:55:25.000 Thank you, sir.

02:55:26.000 Bob, we've got about two minutes left.

02:55:27.000 Final comments.

02:55:28.000 Well, you know, Alex, I really appreciate you having me on again.

02:55:31.000 Second Amendment is, I believe, it's going to They have been under continued attack now, I think, as they shift their agenda back toward the domestic end.

02:55:41.000 I mean, they've been stealing Iraq's oil and stealing, you know, growing poppies in Afghanistan and building pipelines for the last few years. 0.98

02:55:48.000 And they've kind of put it on the back burner, but I think it's going to be firing up again.

02:55:52.000 They've been going after all the other amendments so much that they... It is fired up!

02:55:56.000 These two new gun bills are the biggest Well, that's what I'm talking about.

02:55:59.000 I think for a while it's been kind of quiet, and now they're cranking it up again, and here it comes.

02:56:03.000 They're going to be coming straight after the Second Amendment.

02:56:06.000 You know, thanks to people like you, we're going to head them off at the pass.

02:56:11.000 Well, they can ban the guns.

02:56:12.000 I'm not turning them in.

02:56:13.000 Oh, no. 0.93

02:56:13.000 When they want you to turn in your guns, they want you to be a slobbering slave. 0.93

02:56:17.000 Well, that was the line in the sand at Lexington and Concord.

02:56:21.000 Yeah, we can't afford to go back that way.

02:56:23.000 Once you've given up the right to keep bear arms, according to Patrick Henry, you are finished.

02:56:30.000 You are finished.

02:56:31.000 We're not going to let that happen.

02:56:32.000 Bob, thanks for joining us.

02:56:33.000 Thank you very much, Alex, and you take care.

02:56:35.000 You bet, my friend.

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