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00:00:31.000 Alright folks, it's Tuesday the 2nd of December 2003.

00:00:34.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:37.000 All right, folks, it's Tuesday, the 2nd of December 2003.

00:00:52.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:54.000 We have a special guest for you in the second hour, documentary filmmaker and author Eric

00:01:01.000 Huffschmid, who has done just an unbelievable job exposing the mathematical impossibilities,

00:01:07.000 the frauds surrounding September 11th.

00:01:11.000 It is a total conspiracy theory, the equivalent of saying the moon is made of cheese and that there are mountains made of hard rock candy and oceans of Coca-Cola on the surface of the moon It's a bigger conspiracy theory to say that 19 lone hijackers did what they did, that the buildings fell the way they did, and that all this evidence has been covered up.

00:01:37.000 So, you do not want to miss the show, the broadcast, the warning, the alert, In the second and third hour with Eric Huffschmid.

00:01:47.000 Of course we'll have open phones.

00:01:48.000 We'll have open phones this hour.

00:01:50.000 And there's a ton of news we're about to dive straight into.

00:01:54.000 PrisonPlanet.com has been updated for you with the latest news and information.

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00:02:04.000 Iraqis deny US accounts of fierce fight with guerrillas.

00:02:11.000 That's the London Independent, here's the Guardian, Iraqi's Challenge, U.S.

00:02:14.000 Account of Battle.

00:02:18.000 And even MSNBC is saying, well, they sure aren't changing their story at the Pentagon.

00:02:22.000 First they claimed it was men in black uniforms.

00:02:25.000 I thought that was our guys.

00:02:27.000 Here in America, you know, terrorists in black ski masks.

00:02:31.000 And now on inspection, many lies are being discovered.

00:02:35.000 The whole thing could be a fraud now.

00:02:37.000 We've been lied to so many other times about this war, this would just be, well, standard operating procedure or par for the course.

00:02:44.000 We're talking about a Pentagon that mails out hundreds of fake letters with false signatures on it, supposedly written by troops of how much they love the war.

00:02:54.000 The problem is the Pentagon only did two different versions of the hundreds of letters that went out.

00:02:59.000 And they were caught and said, oh well, we're just trying to lighten everyone up and, well, put a good face on it.

00:03:06.000 The military propagandizing domestically against you.

00:03:11.000 And I guess you're not patriotic, well, they need to lie to us and run our media.

00:03:16.000 You're not with Al-Qaeda, are you?

00:03:18.000 Maybe we should arrest anybody that criticizes the government.

00:03:21.000 That's being openly discussed on national radio, folks.

00:03:25.000 And how wonderful martial law is, of course.

00:03:28.000 So, we'll get into the lies there that are now beginning to come out.

00:03:32.000 Also, UN grabbed the internet control, now coming to a head.

00:03:35.000 U.S.

00:03:36.000 man dies in taped police fight.

00:03:39.000 We'll go over that.

00:03:39.000 Schools expand their power to keep an eye on students.

00:03:43.000 All over the U.S., all over Canada, the cameras are even going in the bathrooms.

00:03:48.000 In the bathrooms, Diebold backs off legal challenge.

00:03:52.000 They were trying to intimidate anybody that posted their internal documents that they accidentally made public about how they're basically scamming everybody with the elections.

00:04:02.000 And now a university said, go ahead, sue us, and Diebold backed off.

00:04:08.000 It's all color of law, all intimidation, hoping you don't find out how the CIA runs the major touchscreen electronic systems.

00:04:18.000 Stocks jump to close at 18-month high as the dollar plunges further.

00:04:23.000 Why is that?

00:04:24.000 We'll explain.

00:04:24.000 Factory growth fastest in 20 years.

00:04:27.000 More manipulation of the numbers.

00:04:29.000 Gold over 400 an ounce on currency moves.

00:04:33.000 Normally the stock market's up, gold is down.

00:04:35.000 But for the first time in like 25-30 years, got the numbers here in front of me, gotta dig them out.

00:04:42.000 But the first time in decades, gold is up and so is the stock market.

00:04:46.000 What's really going on?

00:04:48.000 We'll discuss that as well.

00:04:49.000 Big show lined up for you today.

00:04:52.000 Tonight, this morning, depending on what area of this globe you're sitting on right now.

00:04:59.000 All the different continents, the ships at sea, the troops, everybody listening.

00:05:03.000 I'm honored to have you here with us.

00:05:05.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:08:31.000 Alright folks, we're now 8 minutes and 30 seconds into the first hour of this worldwide broadcast.

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00:08:53.000 Right now, let's jump straight into the news.

00:08:55.000 Iraqis deny U.S. 0.99

00:08:57.000 accounts of fierce fight with guerrillas.

00:09:00.000 To Ali Abdallah Amin, the accusations and details that were yesterday flying about the latest battle between the occupiers and the occupied of Iraq, the fiercest engagement, some say, since the early days of the U.S.-led invasion, were irrelevant.

00:09:16.000 He was not interested in whether the American military was telling the truth when it said that its troops had killed 54 attackers, shorthand for Iraqi guerrillas who carried out the double ambush against a U.S.

00:09:26.000 convoy in the Sunni town of Samarra on Sunday, which turned into a running firefight.

00:09:33.000 Nor was he wondering about the details made by Iraqi hospital officials and policemen in the face of what the Americans have presented as a crushing defeat for the pro-Saddamist, Ba'athist ex-soldiers and other fighters who were violently opposing their presence.

00:09:50.000 Iraqi officials say only eight people died, including a 71-year-old Iranian pilgrim called Fatola Hajiz, whose charred passport They were showing to all comers the old man had, it seems, come to visit the ancient gold-domed Shiite mosque in this once peaceful town on the banks of the Tigris.

00:10:13.000 Ali Abdullah Amin was interested in none of these things.

00:10:17.000 What he cared about, as he lay beneath a grubby yellow blanket in his hospital bed, was the pain in his bandaged legs, both of which were seeping blood from bullet wounds, and the whole On the left side of his stomach, my legs hurt, my legs hurt, the little boy moaned.

00:10:33.000 That's right, as he cried in the arms of a 22-year-old cousin, Jamal Kareem.

00:10:41.000 Now, I've got about 10 articles on this from reputable global sources.

00:10:46.000 BBC, London Independent, MSNBC, you name it.

00:10:51.000 And some of the press has been to the hospitals, been around the local area.

00:10:58.000 And people who were there just minutes after the firefight saw no bodies, but it looks like the maximum number of those that were killed may be 10, may be 7, may be 6.

00:11:10.000 It's certainly not 54.

00:11:13.000 And all they found is children and women and old men that were shot.

00:11:19.000 So, who knows?

00:11:21.000 This is a Pentagon, I will remind you, that mailed out hundreds of fake letters with fake signatures from troops saying how much they love the war and how much the Iraqis love them.

00:11:32.000 This is the same government that has fake weapons dossiers before the UN that are 12 years old.

00:11:37.000 The same lying, un-American, liberal, socialist, big government group who lied about uranium from Niger to Saddam and aluminum tubing and mobile weapons trucks that turned out to be for pumping up balloons.

00:11:53.000 That lied about mass graves and finding chemical and biologicals dozens of times and quietly announcing, okay, it wasn't true.

00:12:03.000 And it looks like this is a big fat lie too, just like another stunt, like Bush flying in with the lights off on Air Force One for Thanksgiving to provide a turkey to the troops, so everyone would say, oh he loves the troops so much, he's so brave, just like when he landed on the deck of the aircraft carrier.

00:12:26.000 Does it matter that he went AWOL?

00:12:28.000 Does it matter that he's not a real Texan? 0.59

00:12:30.000 Does it matter that he's completely phony?

00:12:33.000 That doesn't seem to matter.

00:12:36.000 But again...

00:12:38.000 Ali Abdul-Amin was interested in none of the things.

00:12:42.000 What he cared about as he lay beneath a grubby yellow blanket in his hospital bed was the pain in his bandaged legs, both of which were seeping blood from bullet wounds, and the hole in the left side of his stomach.

00:12:51.000 My legs hurt, my legs hurt, little boy moaned as he cried in the arms of his 22-year-old cousin, Jamal Kareem.

00:12:59.000 He may also have been wondering about the whereabouts of his father, Abdullah Amin al-Karidi.

00:13:04.000 Father and son were shot outside a small nearby mosque, a spot now marked by large, congealed pool of blood.

00:13:11.000 His father didn't make it.

00:13:16.000 Iraqi witnesses were unanimous that Americans were to blame, pointing to a hole in a nearby cement wall.

00:13:25.000 Cemetery wall which looked like the work of a shell from an Abrams tank the US military struck Stuck by its story of the battle and by its estimation the Iraqi death toll 54 Iraqis dead It said all combatants all combatants.

00:13:39.000 They didn't kill anybody innocent Major Gordon Tate, a spokesman at the headquarters of the 4th Infantry Division in Tikrit, insists that the U.S.

00:13:46.000 military was confident about its assessment of the battle damage.

00:13:49.000 Soldiers and commanders on the site contend, he told the Independent, early commander of the site and responsible for doing battle damage assessment, part of that includes counting the dead and wounded on both sides.

00:14:04.000 Ali and his father appear to have slipped through the net, even though the boy's hospital bed is only 10 minutes away from the U.S.

00:14:09.000 Army base in Samara.

00:14:11.000 And although he was easily found by journalists, he does not appear in part of the battle damage assessment.

00:14:17.000 Asked about wounded Iraqi civilians, Major Tate said he did not have any information on the subject.

00:14:26.000 And I've found most of the reports coming out of the Iraqis and the Arab journals, in hindsight, turned out to be very accurate and very honest.

00:14:34.000 And then almost everything coming out from the Pentagon is lies.

00:14:38.000 In fact, we can't really find anything they've said that's true.

00:14:42.000 Time and time again they'll say the two helicopters just crashed into each other, they were not attacked.

00:14:47.000 Then it turns out they were both shot by rockets.

00:14:50.000 I mean, they just incessantly lie.

00:14:53.000 Troops will get bombed or hit by tank shells. 0.97

00:14:58.000 And they'll say, oh, evil Iraqis did it. 1.00

00:15:01.000 Then it'll turn out that it was friendly fire. 0.81

00:15:03.000 I mean, it's just lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie.

00:15:12.000 And the Pentagon told us a year and a half ago, they said the Pentagon Office of Information is going to plant false news stories and lie to the world for the war effort.

00:15:23.000 Remember, they announced that.

00:15:24.000 Then the first story the new agency released was Okay, well, we didn't mean that.

00:15:29.000 We're not going to lie to you.

00:15:33.000 And I guess they're covering themselves legally by saying, we're going to lie to you, and the next day saying, oh, we never said that, we're not going to lie to you.

00:15:42.000 Remember the Pentagon gambling system, which they announced publicly, and then said, oh, we never announced that, and by the way, they've now implemented it through a private company, according to the Associated Press, so that's up and running, too.

00:15:53.000 Just like the Total Information Awareness Network is now running under a new name.

00:15:58.000 We covered from the LA Times yesterday.

00:16:01.000 It is a wall of lies.

00:16:03.000 Understand, we have a Pentagon in control of a military that plants hundreds of fake news stories.

00:16:13.000 That is, letters from troops that they never wrote.

00:16:16.000 And they don't even write different letters.

00:16:18.000 It's form letters.

00:16:20.000 Two separate form letters that showed up in hundreds of newspapers and was in the news for one day.

00:16:27.000 And the Pentagon said, well, we were just trying to lighten people's spirits.

00:16:32.000 We just go, oh, that's what they do now.

00:16:34.000 They put fake letters in the newspaper.

00:16:37.000 Folks, that's China. 0.98

00:16:40.000 That's Russia. 0.84

00:16:40.000 That's East Germany. 0.84

00:16:42.000 That's Guatemala.

00:16:44.000 That's Mexico. 0.95

00:16:45.000 That's everything I was raised to hate.

00:16:50.000 Everything we were brought up that was bad about the Soviet Union.

00:16:55.000 And now we have secret police in America, we have cameras, we have surveillance, we have the secret arrest, everything they had in the old Soviet Union, and now they've hired the former head of the KGB, this general, to quote, according to the Associated Press and many other articles, to quote, help set up internal passports through Homeland Security.

00:17:19.000 I mean, you couldn't Make something up this horrible. 0.83

00:17:22.000 The stuff they're doing is so ridiculous, so out of control, so massive, so huge in its diabolical nature.

00:17:31.000 I mean, I read an article last Wednesday on the show, big paper out of Canada, where it said, well, the parents don't seem to mind that most of the schools are putting cameras in the bathrooms and the showers and Then I've got articles today about how they're doing in here all across the United States. 0.67

00:17:50.000 And, you know, we just have cameras now in the bathrooms.

00:17:56.000 Again, it was good for Winston in 1984.

00:17:59.000 And Television Week comes out and says, yeah, the new cable box really does listen to you with an audio sensor.

00:18:06.000 And it does track what you do.

00:18:08.000 And your cell phone does listen to you, even when it's turned off.

00:18:10.000 And yeah, OnStar's doing it.

00:18:12.000 And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:16.000 And yeah, the government wants everybody to take microchips, and Applied Digital admits it's to buy and sell, and they want everybody to take the chip, and Sean Hannity says it's a good idea, and look at how crazy all of this is.

00:18:28.000 And now the Pentagon gets caught in hundreds of lies, lying about this, lying about that, planning news stories, and I've been on talk shows and expose this, and the host goes, well, yeah, I know, Alex, but we're in a war, don't you support the troops?

00:18:44.000 Well, it's one thing for him to fly around broadcasting lies out of C-130s over countries they're attacking.

00:18:51.000 That's debatable, but not planning news stories here.

00:18:53.000 No, there's no debate.

00:18:55.000 It's pure evil.

00:18:56.000 It's a horrible indicator.

00:18:57.000 And then you add it next to all the other indicators.

00:19:00.000 General Eberhardt outed, uh...

00:19:02.000 Northcom telling the LA Times that well yeah we're under extraordinary situation right now and yeah we're getting rid of posse commentators but don't worry and you know we've got Wesley Clark running around of Waco fame saying he wants a national ID card and we've got the outgoing head of CENTCOM Central Command Frank saying well if we get attacked again we'll have to set aside the Constitution you know I don't like it but it's what the people want Then I read an article like this that I keep mentioning but I haven't read yet on air.

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00:19:41.000 More than two-thirds of college students and administrators who participated in a national survey were unable to remember that freedom of religion and the press are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

00:19:51.000 Then when they asked the administrators about if they believe in the First Amendment, they said, no, it's not a good idea.

00:19:59.000 And I turn on the sitcoms and the dramas and it's all about how good torture is.

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00:24:19.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:26.000 Alright folks, Alex Jones here, back live.

00:24:30.000 And before this show ends today, I want to read this whole article that I've been mentioning for the last week out of the Washington Times.

00:24:37.000 More than two-third of college students and administrators, more than two-thirds, who participated in a national survey were unable to remember that freedom of religion and the press are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

00:24:51.000 In a survey conducted at 339 U.S.

00:24:53.000 colleges and universities, more than one-fourth of students and administrators did not list freedom of speech As an essential right protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution.

00:25:04.000 And a majority of them also didn't think that the First Amendment's a right that we should keep once they were informed of it.

00:25:13.000 Why, no!

00:25:14.000 Free speech isn't good!

00:25:16.000 Free speech is bad!

00:25:20.000 And every time I pick up a law enforcement journal, or again, tune into a sitcom or a drama, torture, torture, torture!

00:25:27.000 And yesterday they did have a report that, well, one of the terrorist suspects did die in custody during an interrogation, that's all.

00:25:35.000 The government comes out and announces how good torture is in hundreds of articles and then later says, we never said that, we're not doing that.

00:25:44.000 Again, conditioning you.

00:25:47.000 And I know almost every day I mention the fact that they're promoting torture all over the place.

00:25:51.000 I just can't get over this.

00:25:53.000 That means they're preparing you, folks, to accept this.

00:25:58.000 And again, the Iraqis challenge U.S. 1.00

00:26:00.000 account of battle.

00:26:01.000 Other foreign press are doing it as well.

00:26:03.000 They've already caught them in a bunch of lies.

00:26:05.000 More on that coming up.

00:26:08.000 But before I go any further here on the electronic voting machine news as they take your right to vote away and the rest of it, I want to get into some of the economic news.

00:26:21.000 Stocks have jumped to close at an 18-month high yesterday.

00:26:25.000 Stocks jumped to close at an 18-month high on Monday, led by industrial stalwarts, International Paper Company and Alcoa Incorporated, the big coal mining group.

00:26:36.000 As investors, welcome to reports showing U.S.

00:26:39.000 factories barreled ahead in November, fastest clip since 1983.

00:26:49.000 Now, I looked at the indexes last night that they're reporting on, and they're counting global companies that have somewhat of their assets based here, so they're counting U.S.-owned factories in China and Mexico and India, so.

00:27:04.000 You know, the Fortune 500's gotten more wealthy, the government's grown by leaps and bounds.

00:27:09.000 We've had bankruptcies, we have seen personal and private debt foreclosures at record levels.

00:27:16.000 But they tell us that despite all the layoffs and people being pushed out of factory jobs and high-tech jobs into service, that things are better.

00:27:25.000 Businesses are increasingly convinced this recovery can be sustained, and it won't just be a flash in the pan, said Richard DeCasseur, chief economist at National City Corporation.

00:27:37.000 The outlook for the economy was given a boost early in the session as the Institute for Supply Management Barometer of Manufacturing Activity surged 62.8% in November from 57.0 in October, far exceeding economic forecast and putting the to rest doubts that the manufacturing recovery will be sustained.

00:28:02.000 And another report showed U.S.

00:28:04.000 construction spending Jumped to an unexpected 0.9% in October, setting a record for the fourth straight month.

00:28:13.000 So we have all this economic numbers.

00:28:16.000 And by luxury sales, luxury items are up too.

00:28:19.000 And they're saying the fastest factory growth in 20 years.

00:28:25.000 But again, they're using all the foreign numbers and what the assets of the globalists are up to.

00:28:32.000 It's like Dell lays off more employees post a big profit in the last quarter as they shut down and lay people off.

00:28:43.000 And their profits are in China and in Europe.

00:28:47.000 But again, those are counted here domestically.

00:28:49.000 And a lot of people are asking, well, why is the stock market racing back up?

00:28:54.000 Why is the stock market going back up?

00:28:57.000 But you notice it goes up, it goes down, it goes up, it goes down.

00:28:59.000 Trending downwards in the last two years.

00:29:02.000 Why is it doing that?

00:29:03.000 How can gold be at record highs for the last 10 years, gold over 400 an ounce on currency moves, and at the same time have the stock market up?

00:29:15.000 Because normally when the stock market rises, in fact, not normally, the majority, the vast majority of the time, when the stock market goes up, gold goes down.

00:29:25.000 But instead, the stock market went up, but gold went up way outpacing the gains of the stock market.

00:29:32.000 Gold's up, what, 40% now in the last year and a half?

00:29:36.000 Stock market's up maybe 6% from what it was a year ago.

00:29:40.000 So look at the real gains there.

00:29:41.000 Why is that?

00:29:43.000 Why is this happening?

00:29:44.000 Well, I'll tell you what I think's going on here from past research.

00:29:47.000 When we get back, and then we'll get into the electronic voting machines, latest developments there, more on the economy, and more on the situation in Iraq.

00:29:57.000 We've got a great guest coming up.

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00:33:32.000 Eric Huffschmid will be joining us in the next hour to break down a large strata, a huge area of the government lies surrounding the fairy tale story they put out on 9-11.

00:33:49.000 And how it ties into all the lying we've seen on other issues.

00:33:52.000 It's as if the establishment is going for broke.

00:33:56.000 Is all out.

00:33:57.000 Doesn't care how many lies they get caught in.

00:33:59.000 Doesn't care how many times they get caught funding and training and protecting and running terrorist organizations.

00:34:08.000 And then on top of it, they tell us, oh look, factory output is at record levels.

00:34:13.000 That is, In an index comparing what's coming out of foreign factories owned by U.S.

00:34:20.000 corporations.

00:34:22.000 So there's the manipulation right there.

00:34:24.000 And then they say, oh, look at the stock market.

00:34:25.000 It raced up yesterday.

00:34:29.000 And so did gold.

00:34:31.000 Gold over 400 an ounce on currency moves.

00:34:35.000 This is out of Reuters.

00:34:36.000 Gold jumped to its highest in more than seven and a half years.

00:34:41.000 I'm told ten years.

00:34:43.000 Above 400 an ounce in Europe on Monday as fund buyers took advantage of a strong euro dollar rate and also dragged silver to a near four-year high above 550 an ounce.

00:34:57.000 The euro hit a lifetime high of 120.41.

00:35:03.000 It was 122 plus over the weekend.

00:35:07.000 That was in after hours trading.

00:35:10.000 The euro hit a lifetime high of $1.2241 against the battered dollar early on Monday and also rose to its highest in more than two months against the yen following the death of two Japanese diplomats in Iraq.

00:35:25.000 spot gold rose to $397.45 in London after hitting a high of $401.40 approaching levels

00:35:37.000 last seen in late February 1996.

00:35:42.000 That compared with the $397.75 at the London market close on Friday.

00:35:48.000 The euro was at $1.1986 at close.

00:35:54.000 Dealers said the gold market moved higher, was exacerbated by thin conditions as US players returned from long Thanksgiving weekend.

00:36:05.000 And on other foreign markets, Gold is selling in some cases as much as $450 an ounce in some of the Asian markets, so it's a huge demand there.

00:36:17.000 Latest U.S.

00:36:18.000 economic data were positive for silver, which was able to take advantage of its dual role as a precious and industrial metal.

00:36:26.000 The metal shot up to a fresh three Plus year high at $5.50, $5.52 from $5.34, $5.36 previously.

00:36:39.000 Spot palladium and platinum also moved higher.

00:36:44.000 Folks, again, if you look back, not even in almost every case, in every case in modern history, when you have a stock market going up, gold goes down.

00:37:00.000 But instead, the stock market goes up a little bit.

00:37:04.000 They can call it huge, but compared to other gains in the past, or other drops, it's moderate.

00:37:09.000 It goes up, they bill it as huge, oh my gosh, jump back into the market, it's the best thing we've ever seen in our lives, the economy's so wonderful, put your nest egg back in immediately, let us rake you back over the coals again.

00:37:20.000 And then suddenly gold skyrockets.

00:37:24.000 And what is Warren Buffett doing?

00:37:25.000 What is Mr. Soros doing?

00:37:29.000 Top globalist minions.

00:37:32.000 Well, they're dumping stock, they're buying gold, they're saying the economy's in deep trouble, and they're insiders.

00:37:42.000 So, again, I don't know what's going to happen.

00:37:43.000 I'm not going to sit here and tell you what's going to happen.

00:37:46.000 But the reason, the main reason, and we know this, that gold's going up while the stock market's going up is because the dollar Has lost 32 cents against the Euro in the last year and a half.

00:38:07.000 About a year and a half ago, the Euro was right at around 90 cents to the dollar, 91 cents, 92 cents, 89 cents.

00:38:14.000 It fluctuated back and forth in that area because we've been following it.

00:38:19.000 In the last year and a half, it has exploded past 120, sitting and hovering right at the 120 mark.

00:38:26.000 A little above it, a little below it.

00:38:29.000 But trending ever upwards on a monthly basis on the graph.

00:38:33.000 I've got a graph here in front of me.

00:38:34.000 It's going straight up.

00:38:38.000 And Treasury Secretary Snowe and others say this is a wonderful thing.

00:38:41.000 This is so good for manufacturing.

00:38:47.000 And by manufacturing, it means that third world countries, and now even first world countries, because the dollar is so weak, Can come in here with their notes, now the world reserve currency, the euro, and buy our goods, because the exchange rate is different.

00:39:07.000 And this is a massive form of inflation, my friends, a hidden form of inflation, devaluing the dollar.

00:39:14.000 And it shouldn't be hidden, it should be the big headlines.

00:39:17.000 So, you got the dollar down by 30 plus percent.

00:39:25.000 And the stock market's back up by, what, less than six percent.

00:39:30.000 But it's still lower than it was two and a half years ago.

00:39:34.000 So think about that.

00:39:36.000 Now if we saw the stock market increase by 32 percent, 35 percent, I would say yes, that's a real gain in the stock market.

00:39:44.000 But if we've got a six percent increase in the stock market, and a 30 plus percent reduction in the value of the dollar, Well, there's your answer right there.

00:39:54.000 It's taking more dollars to buy the same amount of stock, whereas if you're a European, a European investor, a European bank, or a Japanese, or a Chinese, or... We're below all these currencies now, folks!

00:40:09.000 We're at the back of the pack of the industrialized world for the last eight months!

00:40:15.000 The point at which the Euro overtook us.

00:40:20.000 So think about that.

00:40:22.000 We actually have a reduction in value of the stock market.

00:40:24.000 We have a reduction in the value of the dollar.

00:40:27.000 That's the reality, because somebody comes in here with a Euro, somebody comes in here with a Yen, somebody comes in here with another currency, they can buy more of that stock for their units, their fiat currency, than we can.

00:40:42.000 So when you look at it, we've got a 24 to 27 percent, depending on where the Euro is, And it's only trending upwards.

00:40:53.000 Reduction in the value of our stock market.

00:40:58.000 Isn't that disgusting?

00:41:01.000 I have a little nest egg, a little emergency fund in the bank.

00:41:06.000 Not a lot of money, but I've got some, you know, cash, some Federal Reserve notes, some zeros and ones in the bank computer.

00:41:15.000 And it's been reduced by 30 plus percent.

00:41:18.000 That upsets me.

00:41:20.000 But, again, the average American has no idea that we're now attaining third world status.

00:41:27.000 You know, the dollar has been the world reserve currency since 1945.

00:41:30.000 It didn't matter if we had factories.

00:41:36.000 It didn't matter if we had high-tech workers, because we still have this fiat currency.

00:41:42.000 We could go out and work at Burger King, or at the shopping mall, or at the golf course, and take that money.

00:41:50.000 And pay for an apartment and pay for a car and take the children out to Six Flags or Disney World.

00:41:58.000 And we were normally in debt as a country and getting deeper in debt, but still we had that fiat currency so we could buy a Chinese CD player for $10, a DVD player for $50.

00:42:12.000 We thought we were wealthy!

00:42:14.000 We had the trappings of success.

00:42:17.000 Flat-screen color TVs, but real wealth, real investment, real capital, real money in the bank.

00:42:27.000 We have the worst numbers in American history.

00:42:30.000 We've never been more dependent on government, more crammed into compact cities, more non-self-sufficient, more dependent.

00:42:40.000 And folks, you know, I'm here on the chopping block too.

00:42:44.000 I can't imagine what it's like for people who have, you know, a job at the shopping mall and a job bagging groceries.

00:42:52.000 I've got friends who've got several degrees, are very intelligent.

00:42:56.000 We're making $150,000 three years ago, and they're working two, three jobs.

00:43:02.000 Daddy is.

00:43:02.000 Mommy's working one job.

00:43:04.000 Grandma comes over and keeps the children.

00:43:06.000 They can't even afford a good daycare, which is what people want.

00:43:11.000 It's actually good that their children are home.

00:43:14.000 They're in more and more debt.

00:43:16.000 They have all this credit card debt.

00:43:20.000 And it's getting worse and worse.

00:43:22.000 I know people have been out of work for two years.

00:43:24.000 Three years, and I know every day they're beating the pavement in between their third world jobs. 0.99

00:43:31.000 Every day they're putting resumes in.

00:43:33.000 Every day, every week, they're going to job fairs.

00:43:37.000 Oh, they'll get a job with a high-tech company for three, four months, temporary, and all they're there to do is train an Indian who goes back to India with their job. 0.98

00:43:46.000 They're even told that.

00:43:47.000 We've got a job for you for three months.

00:43:48.000 As soon as you train this Indian, you're gone. 1.00

00:43:56.000 And they're getting paid about half what they were paid two, three years ago.

00:44:01.000 So they've got all these degrees, engineering degrees, electrical engineering degrees.

00:44:05.000 They're getting 10, 12 bucks, 15 bucks an hour paying for their children's insurance

00:44:15.000 and the health care and the taxes and all the rest of it.

00:44:19.000 And already, NAFTA and GATT, and the WTO, already, when they go in for temporary work at a factory, or in a programming job, they're getting half of what they got a few years ago.

00:44:31.000 Before, $24 an hour, now they're getting $12 an hour.

00:44:35.000 Before, some of them were getting $50, $100 an hour.

00:44:37.000 Now they're getting $25 an hour.

00:44:38.000 hour. Now they're getting $25 an hour. And it's all temporary. I've talked to hundreds

00:44:45.000 of these people.

00:44:47.000 There's houses for sale everywhere.

00:44:50.000 The shopping malls on most days are empty, whereas three or four years ago they were jam-packed.

00:44:56.000 I walk into CompUSA to buy printer ink or more CDs or something, and I go in there and there's no one in there.

00:45:04.000 Before, you had to fight past the lines of people.

00:45:08.000 Before, they had five cash registers with long lines at them three, four, even two years ago.

00:45:14.000 Now, they always have one person, even at rush hour, at the customer service desk, and that's where you go to pay for your goods.

00:45:21.000 Even layoffs in the service industry.

00:45:24.000 I know what my eyes show me.

00:45:25.000 I know what the price of gold shows me. 0.96

00:45:28.000 I know what's happening to the dollar, and it's disgusting.

00:45:32.000 And George Bush, and the Democrats, and his Treasury Secretary, they know what they've done.

00:45:38.000 Yes, I have three short things, Alex.

00:45:39.000 The economy is doing good, so you sit there in a bad economic situation and feel like

00:45:43.000 you're the only one and well, things are getting better.

00:45:48.000 It's a depression if you're out of work, it's a recession if your neighbor is out of work,

00:45:52.000 folks.

00:45:53.000 Alright, who's up first?

00:45:54.000 Who should I go to first here, Mark?

00:45:57.000 Richard Missouri, go ahead and thanks for holding, sir.

00:45:59.000 Yes, I have three short things, Alex.

00:46:03.000 First thing is they have taken you off the first hour here at KCXL in Missouri.

00:46:10.000 The short thing is, Howard, who has Liberty Ship Films, was his first name Tito?

00:46:22.000 Yes.

00:46:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:46:23.000 And then the last one is, the author that had the book on blood, money, and power, it The Bush's father's name was Poppy, but in another book by Anthony Sutton, America's Secret Establishment, it said his secret name was Maycock, and I'm just asking you

00:46:50.000 I've interviewed Sutton, he's dead now, but in his books they have different nicknames, but I read that it's Poppy, and people have called him that publicly, his friends and associates.

00:47:01.000 So that is George Herbert Walker Bush's nickname is Poppy.

00:47:06.000 George W. Bush's nickname at Skull and Bones is temporary.

00:47:10.000 Yes.

00:47:10.000 Side issue, we've been on KCXL for I think four or five years and I know some days they pick up two hours, some days three hours, some days one hour depending on if they got live games or something.

00:47:21.000 What exactly do you say happened?

00:47:23.000 They took you off the first hour and they put someone else there in place.

00:47:30.000 Well how many hours a day are they running?

00:47:32.000 It used to be three, now it's just two.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, but again, a year ago it was just two, and then it went back to three.

00:47:38.000 That just... Hey, they're great folks, and I think they have me on there at night, too.

00:47:43.000 I'm not able to pick you up.

00:47:44.000 It's too low.

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:47.000 Well, also, I think... Aren't they getting a new, bigger station?

00:47:50.000 I've been told I'll be on that one, too.

00:47:52.000 Well, they're in a...

00:47:53.000 process of trying to build up something stronger.

00:47:57.000 They're good folks, but if you want to call them up and tell them, hey, pick up all three

00:48:01.000 hours, be my guest, but they're good folks.

00:48:04.000 Already done that.

00:48:06.000 All right.

00:48:07.000 Hey, what do you think about the gold being above 400 and at the same time the dollar

00:48:14.000 plunging even more, and then they're telling us how great the economy is?

00:48:18.000 Yes, I believe it's more of a continuation of the decline of the whole economic system.

00:48:26.000 You It is terrible.

00:48:30.000 It's just absolutely out of control.

00:48:32.000 I appreciate your call, sir.

00:48:34.000 Take care.

00:48:38.000 We'll go to your calls coming up here in the next segment, and then we've got Eric Hubschmidt, who's an amazing Individual, in his own right, with just incredible info for you.

00:48:49.000 So I hope you'll stay with us into the second hour for that.

00:48:52.000 And I do have some news here because he's a computer programmer, an engineer himself.

00:48:58.000 I want to talk to him about the electronic voting machines, which they've admitted are fraud ridden and run by the CIA.

00:49:03.000 That's mainstream news.

00:49:05.000 They were going to sue people that were talking about them and exposing them.

00:49:08.000 They've now backed off.

00:49:10.000 Their secret documents were posted by a major university.

00:49:13.000 They were very upset.

00:49:14.000 But they threatened to sue.

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00:54:05.000 Before I go to Jerry in Wisconsin and our guest Eric Huffschmid and some other news

00:54:20.000 on the electronic voting machines.

00:54:22.000 you This is all, every news story is so out of control.

00:54:26.000 I spent three hours on this one article.

00:54:28.000 Before I do that, I will be in Houston December 13th at the Alamo Draft House Movie Theater at the West Oak Shopping Center showing 9-11 Rotetarity, giving a 30-minute speech, taking questions, and then airing They Live, the John Carpenter Yeah, hi Alex.

00:54:45.000 divorce dystopic film about a false reality and those that wake up from it.

00:54:50.000 So that's December 13th, that's a Saturday here in about 11 days in

00:54:56.000 Houston, Texas. 6 p.m. be there folks, great place to network. Let's go to Jerry

00:55:02.000 in Wisconsin. Jerry you're on the air, go ahead. Yeah, hi Alex, how's it going? Good, my

00:55:07.000 friend. Yeah, I was wondering, every once in a while I hear you talking about

00:55:10.000 fluoride in the water and telling people not to stop drinking the crap and stuff. 0.51

00:55:16.000 I was wondering, maybe you should tell some of the listeners to stay away from even the fluoride toothpaste and stuff.

00:55:24.000 I mean, a few years back, I went to Walmart and I checked on the shelf and it was like, every one of the tubes of toothpaste that I looked at, it said fluoride right on the label there.

00:55:35.000 And if people stop using that, they can't sell that stuff.

00:55:38.000 It's against the law to dump that stuff in landfills, but people are paying money to use it.

00:55:46.000 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

00:55:48.000 Well, let me give you an example.

00:55:50.000 Without having a whole diatribe on fluoride, I'm glad you mentioned it.

00:55:55.000 Depleted uranium.

00:55:57.000 Top scientist, epidemiologist, radiation expert.

00:56:01.000 He's got like five medical degrees, okay folks.

00:56:04.000 They hire him in 91 to go disprove that depleting uranium is bad.

00:56:09.000 He shows up, he says it's deadly, it's causing lung cancer, lesions, radiation sickness.

00:56:14.000 For our troops, it's horrible deformities.

00:56:18.000 And our troops are three times more likely to have deformed children, by the way.

00:56:21.000 From the first Gulf War.

00:56:22.000 He comes back.

00:56:24.000 Now in this war, they use at least 15 times what they used last time.

00:56:29.000 It's 1,900 times safe levels.

00:56:34.000 Above safe levels in downtown Baghdad.

00:56:37.000 They used it all over the place this time.

00:56:40.000 Rook on his own tests the blood.

00:56:42.000 Other doctors do.

00:56:43.000 It's all over the Australian British News.

00:56:45.000 It's horrible.

00:56:47.000 And our news says it's good for you.

00:56:50.000 Now, folks, this is the stuff left over from nuclear power plants.

00:56:54.000 It's left over from the separation process to make the rods.

00:56:58.000 It's left over from nuclear weapons production.

00:57:01.000 It's deadly.

00:57:03.000 And they just say it's good for you.

00:57:06.000 So the same thing with fluoride.

00:57:08.000 At the end of the Second World War, they had all these aluminum factories, all these fertilizer factories that had this toxic fluoride left over.

00:57:14.000 They just said, hey, we'll just put it in the water.

00:57:17.000 And it is deadly, deadly, deadly.

00:57:19.000 And the back of the toothpaste bottle says, if you swallow even a pea size of this, call poison control immediately.

00:57:26.000 It is deadly poison!

00:57:28.000 And what does it just so happen to do?

00:57:30.000 And I have hundreds of universal reports.

00:57:32.000 It deadens the mind.

00:57:33.000 It is a toxic sedative used by Nazis in death camps to sedate Jews and others.

00:57:42.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:57:44.000 Yeah, thanks a lot, Alex.

00:57:46.000 I just wanted to add that.

00:57:47.000 You made a great point.

00:57:47.000 Go ahead.

00:57:48.000 That's all I got to say.

00:57:49.000 I just wanted to make sure people are on top of that.

00:57:53.000 I appreciate it, Alex.

00:57:54.000 Have a good day there.

00:57:55.000 Absolutely.

00:57:56.000 Thank you for the call from there in Wisconsin.

00:58:01.000 So no wonder people don't know what the First Amendment is.

00:58:03.000 No wonder most people don't know how many continents there are, where Iraq is. 0.67

00:58:08.000 They're drugged.

00:58:09.000 And by the way, your food is full of fluoride.

00:58:12.000 Because they feed it to the pigs, and the sheep, and the cows, and all of it.

00:58:16.000 They've tested the food, it's full of deadly fluoride.

00:58:19.000 Because, see, there's calcium fluoride that isn't very bad for you, but you need a little bit of it.

00:58:24.000 But then there's the sodium fluoride, all these other types of fluoride that are DEADLY!

00:58:31.000 By the way, the top scientist who was in charge of putting fluoride on the water in Canada, he's now gone public, apologized, said, I was wrong, it's deadly poison.

00:58:42.000 We have one of the top epidemiologists and he also has a degree in chemistry on a few months ago and that's at presentplanet.com in the audio section.

00:58:51.000 You ought to go listen to that.

00:58:53.000 It is so deadly.

00:58:56.000 It's unspeakable.

00:58:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:58.000 We're going to have wide open phones in this hour to talk about 9-11 and other government cover-ups.

01:00:04.000 I'm joined by Eric Huffschmidt, and he's an author and documentary filmmaker.

01:00:09.000 He's written a book on 9-11 and the cover up there.

01:00:13.000 and made one of the best films out there on the subject that's unlocking a lot of minds.

01:00:18.000 He's put a lot of new developments and we wanted to have him.

01:00:21.000 I've only had him on the show once before and that was about a year ago.

01:00:24.000 We've got Eric now back up with us.

01:00:26.000 Eric Huffschmid, for those that just joined us or never heard you before,

01:00:30.000 tell folks how you got involved in this and who you are and what you do and what you put together.

01:00:36.000 Actually, I got into it in a roundabout kind of way because I just developed software for a living.

01:00:41.000 and after the towers went down...

01:00:44.000 I was noticing on the Internet, there's a lot of people that were called conspiracy nuts, talking about how, oh, we shouldn't trust this government of ours.

01:00:54.000 Something's funny about this attack.

01:00:56.000 And, you know, I was like most people.

01:00:58.000 I wasn't paying that much attention. 0.98

01:01:00.000 I was dismissing them as nuts.

01:01:02.000 But eventually they got through to me, you know, the constant complaining.

01:01:06.000 And I look on.

01:01:07.000 So I started looking closely at what happened on that event.

01:01:11.000 That's when it occurred to me that those towers looked like they were blown up.

01:01:15.000 Building 7 looks like it had explosives in it also.

01:01:19.000 And I was thinking, so my first reaction was to tell people about it.

01:01:23.000 You know, I put some documents on the internet saying it looks like these towers were blown up.

01:01:27.000 Of course, nobody's really paying any attention to me either.

01:01:30.000 And I emailed maybe a hundred or more people at universities and NASA and other people saying, why don't you guys look into this?

01:01:38.000 Well, you know, look, something's wrong here.

01:01:40.000 Why don't you check it out?

01:01:41.000 Of course, nobody would do anything.

01:01:43.000 And I was thinking, isn't anybody going to say anything about this?

01:01:46.000 Yeah, they have a massive investigation with a fire marshal.

01:01:49.000 The barn burns down, but you have the biggest collapse of steel buildings ever before happened.

01:01:55.000 Building 7 wasn't even hit by an aircraft.

01:01:57.000 It imploded from a small fire.

01:01:59.000 Seismographs picked up explosions.

01:02:00.000 Federal and state.

01:02:02.000 The firefighters reported bombs going off.

01:02:04.000 Firefighter engineering says it's a cover-up, hauling the steel away.

01:02:08.000 All this is going on, you start adding it all together to believe their story is the wildest conspiracy theory ever.

01:02:15.000 Oh, exactly.

01:02:16.000 And I was wondering, why isn't anyone saying anything?

01:02:18.000 What's going on?

01:02:19.000 Because here I am, sending out an email saying to look into it, and they're not doing it.

01:02:23.000 Now, Eric, you did find that I was looking into it, didn't you?

01:02:26.000 I didn't know about you either in the beginning.

01:02:28.000 You see, the information does not get very far to people.

01:02:32.000 I didn't even realize you existed at the time I was doing this.

01:02:36.000 And, you know, it's afterwards, after I started doing it, people said, hey, check this out, and, you know, this person, that person, this website.

01:02:44.000 But the majority of people are, like, oblivious, and they're not talking.

01:02:48.000 You know, most people, that television is like heroin.

01:02:51.000 They'll sit in front of it for hours a day and not even notice what's going on around them.

01:02:57.000 And so they don't really, information doesn't really spread from what you might call the ordinary people very far.

01:03:03.000 Well, it spread slowly, but now the polls are 90 plus percent, up from 80 percent believe the government killed Kennedy.

01:03:10.000 So over time, we do get the story told, it does spread faster than it did a few decades ago, thanks to the internet.

01:03:16.000 Right.

01:03:17.000 That does make a big difference.

01:03:19.000 And of course, DVDs and videos are also helping spread information, since people sit in front of a TV so much, it is a little easier to get information that way to them.

01:03:29.000 I want to go over what your book and your film covers and the scientific facts when we get back.

01:03:36.000 Eric, I also want to get your take on Diebold and all these different CIA people and all these elections where they've been caught manipulating things.

01:03:44.000 As a programmer yourself, I want to get your take on electronic voting.

01:03:47.000 Okay.

01:03:49.000 Just in a nutshell, what do you think of it?

01:03:51.000 Well, anybody who's written software is going to think it's probably the same thing.

01:03:56.000 You're just asking to be taken advantage of, because it's... Unless there's... You know, when it's so secretive, when people are allowed to control this stuff secretly, when the software is secret, when everything is a secret, you're just asking to be taken advantage of.

01:04:10.000 And then no paper trail, and then surprise, surprise, in hundreds of elections, they've been caught manipulating things red-handed, and the CIA is involved, mainstream news, we'll be right back.

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01:08:47.000 Eric Huffschmid is a software designer, computer programmer, he joins us, author, Filmmaker, stepping up to the plate and waking up a lot of people in the process.

01:08:59.000 But I first want to talk about electronic voting with Eric.

01:09:02.000 Diebold backs off legal challenge.

01:09:04.000 Diebold Election Systems is withdrawing legal threats against voting activists and internet service providers for publishing copies of internal staff emails the company says were stolen from its servers.

01:09:17.000 That's not true. 0.99

01:09:17.000 The idiots had a open link to it. 0.99

01:09:21.000 The company was storing stuff on their open server, their internet file. 0.98

01:09:29.000 The documents pointed to security flaws with Diebold's computerized voting machines and suggest the company knew about those flaws long before it sold machines to several states, including California, Maryland, and Georgia.

01:09:40.000 Millions, by the way, voted in the California election on those systems.

01:09:44.000 The Diebold chairman said in an internal memo, now made public by the Associated Press, that he would, quote, deliver all the votes to the Republican Party.

01:09:53.000 In three of these big electronic voting machine companies, they have former deputy directors of the CIA on their boards.

01:10:00.000 And in dozens of elections from Texas to California, they've been caught manipulating votes.

01:10:05.000 They have wireless internet connections to their machines.

01:10:08.000 One of their top engineers three months ago quit, went public, said that they were covering up the fact that they were shipping out machines that had built-in back doors and that were, quote, malfunctioning.

01:10:19.000 Beginning in August, Diebold issued cease and desist letters to more than a dozen individuals who posted the documents or links to sites hosting them on the internet.

01:10:27.000 Then later you get your website put back up, but they would just threaten the ISPs.

01:10:31.000 They need to be sued, folks. 0.99

01:10:33.000 The company claimed copyright infringement under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA, a law designed to guard against the improper use of creative works.

01:10:42.000 Diebold said the documents revealed proprietary information about the workings of its e-voting system that would benefit its competitors.

01:10:49.000 Now understand, folks, it's all these companies have been caught doing bad stuff.

01:10:53.000 Understand something here.

01:10:54.000 This is very important.

01:10:56.000 As Eric Huffman said before the break, they won't let you know what's in the machines.

01:11:00.000 They won't let you look at the code.

01:11:02.000 They won't let you have a receipt of what you've done.

01:11:06.000 Nothing!

01:11:07.000 And they've been caught manipulating elections.

01:11:10.000 So you add all this together, then there was a corporate meeting reported on by the mainstream news where The government, the federal government, the lobbyists, and the big voting machine companies were all together in a quote secret teleconference where they talked about we can't let the people know about this that we're all meeting it could be considered racketeering and so they went around trying to sue and intimidate anybody that posted the documents or put a link to the documents or wrote about the documents.

01:11:42.000 Now writing about the documents was evil.

01:11:46.000 But people stood up to them, now they're backing off.

01:11:49.000 The non-profit ISP Online Policy Group and two Smarthmore College students sought a court order in October to block Diebold's action.

01:11:56.000 On Monday, Diebold reversed itself without explaining its decision, saying only that it would not sue over the copyright claims.

01:12:03.000 In a conference call with the U.S.

01:12:04.000 District Judge Jeremy Fogel, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is representing the online policy group of students, Diebold said it would send letters to ISPs retracting demands that they take down the documents.

01:12:18.000 I'm told by internal sources inside and around these universities and other activists that suit are being prepared very strong suits against Diebold uh... for their malicious false charges uh... against uh... public policy groups research organizations think tanks universities uh... you know you can't do that Diebold it's not copyright infringement when you foolishly post documents about how you're scamming us on your website then we go public with it and you attack us

01:12:55.000 And you did attack us, didn't you?

01:12:58.000 Alright, Eric Huffschmid, what do you think about all this?

01:13:01.000 Well, I'd say that computerized voting system is sort of like computerized gambling machines.

01:13:06.000 I don't know how people can do it without wondering what's going on behind the scenes.

01:13:10.000 I mean, it's the same thing with those computerized gambling slot machines.

01:13:15.000 Somebody could just be manipulating them also.

01:13:17.000 You have no idea.

01:13:18.000 I don't know how people can feel confident in it, except that most people, since they don't know software, You know, they look at the machines as like magic, you know, new magic technology.

01:13:29.000 They don't realize there's somebody that could be manipulating this on his laptop a thousand miles away from here.

01:13:36.000 And it could even be worse than that.

01:13:38.000 It could be that Diebold's doing some things and then some other groups are also secretly trying to get control.

01:13:45.000 In the California election, the one of 2002 and the one of 2003, Diebold, this is mainstream news, folks.

01:13:53.000 Diebold got caught accessing the machines remotely during the elections, adding and subtracting votes.

01:14:01.000 And they said, oh, it was just an accident, Eric.

01:14:06.000 Right.

01:14:07.000 And then you also have to wonder if there's other people that figured this out and they are also quietly trying to manipulate.

01:14:13.000 So you got a fight going on.

01:14:14.000 I mean, this is really just asking for trouble.

01:14:17.000 When you have paper ballots, the only way to mess them up is to be physically there, and that requires a lot of people and requires breaking through security.

01:14:25.000 But when you have a computer, one person can manipulate everything.

01:14:30.000 Well, there's a, there's a, on the internet, there's a billboard, or a piece of, you know, political art, and it shows a cash register, and it says, receipt.

01:14:41.000 You get a receipt.

01:14:42.000 It shows a ATM, you get a receipt.

01:14:45.000 But when it comes to touchscreen voting, no receipt, and the League of Women Voters is arguing against receipts, and so are the touchscreen companies.

01:14:55.000 Is that a good indicator?

01:14:56.000 Yes, it's a sign, and of course, even if people did get receipts, unless somebody then added the receipts together, you still wouldn't have a... you'd still have to do something with those paper receipts.

01:15:07.000 Plans within plans.

01:15:08.000 That's what they've done now, is they're going, okay, we'll allow receipts, and they go, oh, everything's fixed now.

01:15:15.000 Right, and most people will take the receipt and throw it away.

01:15:17.000 So what good does it do?

01:15:19.000 Unless you take the receipt and say, okay, now add them all up.

01:15:22.000 Well, it's clear.

01:15:23.000 You'd have to have a ballot printed out, a paper ballot from the machine, and then put together in boxes for a recount later.

01:15:31.000 Have they been caught manipulating that as well?

01:15:33.000 I mean, it's not like this hasn't happened before.

01:15:36.000 Right.

01:15:37.000 Yeah, it's asking for trouble.

01:15:38.000 But then the paper ballots, if you're going to do that, you may as well just go to paper ballots.

01:15:42.000 And what's the sense?

01:15:44.000 Well, the University of California at Berkeley, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, all these top universities did studies and found that it looks like Diebold's system is designed to be remotely accessed and then to have the access covered up.

01:16:02.000 Oh, I would think so, because that's the best thing is to have a computerized voting system.

01:16:08.000 It gives the people in control control of the elections.

01:16:12.000 So I would think that was what it was all intended for in the first place.

01:16:16.000 See, that's the problem with secret voting.

01:16:18.000 If everybody's vote had a name on it, I mean, if we didn't have to do it secretly, if there was no fear of voting, then a computer could do it because then it could be published and everybody has his name, we could all verify that voting was as we thought it would be.

01:16:33.000 It's a secret The secret nature of voting that allows it to be manipulated, because nobody can then look back at the votes and say, well, wait, I didn't, that's not my vote.

01:16:44.000 Or, you know what I mean?

01:16:45.000 You just have numbers.

01:16:46.000 They don't correlate to people.

01:16:49.000 So, I mean, if you're going to have computerized voting, the only way to make it safe is to have each person's name associated with his vote, then you publish the results.

01:16:57.000 You've got a list of every person and his vote, and people can just randomly check their own to see if it was actually what they did.

01:17:06.000 Well, the point here is it's horrible.

01:17:10.000 They've been caught scamming and they don't care here in Austin.

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01:17:27.000 There's still this resistance from the average person to facing such a big scam is what it seems.

01:17:34.000 Okay, we're going to break here in a second, Eric.

01:17:36.000 I want to shift gears for what you came on about, and I appreciate you talking about this with us.

01:17:41.000 The film you've made, the book you've written, what are we going to cover in the next hour?

01:17:48.000 Because I want to go over the lies of 9-11, the facts of what happened, some of the key areas of this huge, huge story that you think are most important.

01:17:59.000 Well, there's basically two events with 9-11.

01:18:02.000 It was the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

01:18:04.000 Of course, there was also that Flight 93, which I didn't really spend much time on.

01:18:09.000 I was more on the World Trade Center than a little on the Pentagon.

01:18:14.000 And so those are the two big events, and they're very different from one another, as if almost two groups of people were involved in the planning for those two.

01:18:25.000 I would say that's the biggest part of this.

01:18:27.000 Flight 93 is a bit of a mystery also, but the most obvious part of this scam are those towers and Building 7, and then of course the Pentagon being hit, and nobody can find any plane parts or body parts.

01:18:42.000 So, I mean, if you want, we can discuss those two.

01:18:45.000 Yeah, let's go over, just blow by blow, what you put in the book, what you put in the film, because it's conclusive.

01:18:53.000 We're being lied to, and then you add the whole cover-up with the wreckage, and then there's all the political tie-ins with the public officials being told not to fly, and the Bin Ladens being flown out, and the CIA running a drill that morning of flying planes into buildings in New York and D.C. 0.64

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01:19:12.000 We're not going to get into those facets.

01:19:13.000 We'll get into the mathematical computations with the towers.

01:19:18.000 We'll be right back.

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01:23:20.000 Alright, we're talking to Eric Huffschmid, writer, researcher, documentary filmmaker, software engineer,

01:23:37.000 programmer.

01:23:39.000 you And for those that just joined us, Eric, again, plug the name of the book and the film, and later we'll tell folks how to get those.

01:23:48.000 And then I want to go into what really happened on 9-11.

01:23:51.000 Alright, the book is called Painful Questions, An Analysis of the September 11th Attack, and The video is called Painful Deceptions.

01:24:03.000 The book has a lot of color pictures.

01:24:06.000 This is the reason I put it together.

01:24:09.000 I was having an impossible time trying to talk to people in word about what happened.

01:24:15.000 So I decided if I had something in my hand I could show them.

01:24:18.000 There are hundreds of color pictures in that.

01:24:21.000 Then of course there's the film.

01:24:23.000 So let's just say I'm an average guy on the street.

01:24:25.000 You've got the film.

01:24:26.000 You've got the book.

01:24:27.000 You're going to try to explain this to me.

01:24:29.000 What happened?

01:24:29.000 Tell me.

01:24:31.000 Well, what it looks like, when you look at how these towers... First of all, when the planes hit the towers, you cannot even see in the video that the... I mean, there was news cameras all around it, and those towers didn't hardly move.

01:24:44.000 They swallowed those planes up as if they were nothing, like a bee had run into them.

01:24:50.000 Which shows how strong those towers were to swallow a plane up at that high a speed without really shaking or wobbling or cracking.

01:24:59.000 So the planes themselves did not damage the building all that much.

01:25:03.000 The planes hit, the towers shook a little bit.

01:25:08.000 You heard the people inside saying they felt the towers sway, but it was like a strong winter storm.

01:25:14.000 And then the tower stood back up again, and then settled down, and then stood there, perfectly motionless.

01:25:21.000 There were no crackings going on, there were no pieces falling off.

01:25:24.000 It looked as if it had survived the plane crash.

01:25:28.000 And then the fires were burning inside, but initially there was a big fireball because of all the jet fuel, but then after that burned out, the only thing burning is, you know, some pools of jet fuel that were still inside the building, as well as office furniture.

01:25:42.000 So, at that point, it starts becoming like a regular office fire.

01:25:46.000 And office fires have never destroyed steel buildings before.

01:25:51.000 So, the events were, you know, the plane hit the building, the building did nothing but sway a little bit, and then you got some fires going.

01:25:59.000 And then, for no apparent reason, the building, the South Tower, just starts pulverizing itself into dust.

01:26:07.000 Now, this is the key thing.

01:26:09.000 It didn't just crack and Something fell over.

01:26:12.000 It didn't just leave a big stub hanging in the air.

01:26:15.000 It completely pulverized itself into dust and short pieces of steel.

01:26:21.000 And the photos of this are just spectacular.

01:26:23.000 I've got these five on like page 52 through 57 of this five shots, one after the other, where the thing is just blowing itself up into dust with jets of dust flying out the windows horizontally.

01:26:38.000 I mean, when do buildings fall down like this?

01:26:42.000 There are stills from Fox Television that show clear explosion points, and then I've seen photos compared to hotels in Las Vegas under demolition.

01:26:52.000 The exact same thing happens.

01:26:54.000 Then you have the firefighter tapes that they declared national security on, but they're reporting bombs going off.

01:27:00.000 You have explosions in the bottom of the building as it begins to fall.

01:27:03.000 We have the seismographs picking up explosions at the state and federal level.

01:27:08.000 I mean, again, there's just so many indicators here.

01:27:11.000 Right, and then when you look at the rubble, there's not even a piece of anything except steel.

01:27:18.000 There's some steel beams.

01:27:19.000 The entire structure, both towers, everything disintegrated.

01:27:24.000 I mean, it'd be at least acceptable if maybe a piece had fallen down and hit the ground, a big chunk, but everything, down into the basement, I mean, two towers, how do you explain this?

01:27:37.000 Nobody can explain this.

01:27:38.000 No fire has ever done this to a building before.

01:27:42.000 And there have been a lot of fires.

01:27:44.000 Well, by the way, a fighter bomber, what was it?

01:27:51.000 Oh, the one that hit the Empire State Building.

01:27:53.000 Yeah, a B-17 flew into it.

01:27:56.000 And it started a big fire also.

01:27:59.000 But it's like everything.

01:28:01.000 You know, the steel buildings, they can survive this sort of thing.

01:28:06.000 And the fires, I mean, steel can contain a fire.

01:28:09.000 It doesn't...

01:28:10.000 Disintegrate from it.

01:28:11.000 I mean, look at the steel grate in your fireplace or a barbecue pit.

01:28:14.000 Well, then in the book you get into the temperatures, and that's been put out there, that it would take at least 600 to 700 degrees more on top of what jet fuel burns it to do this, but instead there's all these NOVA specials, What Made the Towers Fall, Discovery Channel specials, just full of propaganda that I want to ask them, Eric, what made Building 7, what, like eight hours later, implode and fall down?

01:28:37.000 Right.

01:28:38.000 In the evening, about 5.30, that building just suddenly collapses.

01:28:42.000 And it doesn't collapse.

01:28:43.000 It pulverizes itself, just like the towers.

01:28:46.000 And the interesting thing is, almost nobody even knows what this building is, or that it collapsed.

01:28:52.000 And there's only one reason why you don't see Nova explaining this.

01:28:57.000 Nobody can come up with something... Also on the New York Daily News, Giuliani says, I got a call from someone saying, get out of the building.

01:29:05.000 Then the fire started.

01:29:07.000 Stay there, Eric.

01:29:08.000 We'll come back and cover that.

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01:35:02.000 Eric, I wanted to mention something.

01:35:04.000 And this interview is still posted from September 11th, 2001 on the website.

01:35:12.000 I had a fella, Jimmy Wright, on the show who is a big successful banker, Well, that is, he works for a big bank.

01:35:23.000 He does international deals on real estate.

01:35:26.000 He lives in New York, but he's married to one of my friend's sisters.

01:35:31.000 And so I've been out to their ranch quite a few times.

01:35:34.000 I consider him a friend of mine.

01:35:36.000 They have a ranch out in Fredericksburg, Texas.

01:35:40.000 And on the morning of 9-11, I was on Derry Brownfield's show.

01:35:43.000 I was on other shows.

01:35:44.000 I thought, who do I know in New York?

01:35:46.000 And I called out to the ranch, and I said, is Jimmy in New York?

01:35:50.000 And they said, yes.

01:35:52.000 He's also an accomplished sailor.

01:35:53.000 The guy lives on his boat there in the harbor, literally just a few hundred yards from the World Trade Center.

01:35:59.000 And he was in the World Financial Center just a couple hundred yards away.

01:36:03.000 He was up there on the 40, I believe 42nd floor, looking across at the towers.

01:36:09.000 This is just an hour or two after it happens.

01:36:11.000 I call.

01:36:12.000 I get him on at the start of the show.

01:36:15.000 Mr. Wright, Also, has a degree in engineering, and again, unprompted

01:36:28.000 Out of his mouth, he said, this is the most controlled demolition I've ever seen.

01:36:32.000 Again, he's got an architecture degree, folk.

01:36:34.000 He's an engineer.

01:36:35.000 He says, it's the most controlled demolition I've ever seen.

01:36:39.000 Something inside those buildings brought them down.

01:36:42.000 They imploded in a symmetrical fashion.

01:36:45.000 And he was on with us for about 30 minutes, via cell phone, literally in the dust, in the rubble, saying this.

01:36:53.000 And the designer of the building said this, and in the design said it was designed to take a jumbo jet.

01:37:01.000 Then a big engineer out in a university in New Mexico said it.

01:37:05.000 They suddenly all shut up.

01:37:08.000 I talked to firefighters who said, I can't come on, I've been told to shut up.

01:37:12.000 Firefighters have been quoted as saying bombs were going off.

01:37:15.000 Eric Hubschman, how does this all tie together?

01:37:17.000 Let's go through the facts.

01:37:18.000 Well, I'd have to... that's probably very accurate.

01:37:21.000 I mean, the people... if you look closely at these photos, you can see why they think it's a demolition.

01:37:26.000 Because buildings just don't behave in this manner.

01:37:29.000 It looks like somebody lit them on fire and they're just... things going off.

01:37:32.000 It's turning to dust, flying out hundreds and hundreds of feet.

01:37:37.000 And they go floor by floor, very, very symmetrically.

01:37:40.000 I mean, like, you can see it if you look closely at these pictures in the page 52, 3, 4 and so on.

01:37:43.000 There's just one line after the other, floor by floor, dust flying out.

01:37:51.000 And there's so many suspicious aspects of it, like people going to work and saying, well, how come there's nobody in this office but me?

01:37:57.000 You know, where is everybody?

01:37:59.000 By the way, MSNBC had a headline, Urban Legend Not They went and interviewed everybody and did find out the building was over half empty.

01:38:08.000 The children across the street a week before were saying those buildings will be gone next week.

01:38:13.000 They found out that indeed that was true.

01:38:17.000 Right, even in building 7 there were some people going up there to their work and thinking, where is everybody?

01:38:23.000 And that building evacuated very early in the morning also.

01:38:29.000 Guess who was based there?

01:38:31.000 In 99, they built the Y2K Command Center there, with the bulletproof glass, the rest of it. 0.87

01:38:37.000 The CIA and the FBI were based in that building.

01:38:40.000 Right.

01:38:40.000 Yeah, I think the Department of Defense might be in there too.

01:38:43.000 Yeah, everybody.

01:38:44.000 It was a big government nest.

01:38:45.000 Right.

01:38:46.000 Also, they said that there were fires so hot on the 60th to 90th floors, but there's video and photos of people leaning out the windows.

01:38:55.000 Oh, you can't even see the photos.

01:38:56.000 I mean, you look at the photos, you can't find only more than a few flames, and just a couple of the floors of that building.

01:39:04.000 And even the towers, there weren't that many flames either.

01:39:06.000 So, I mean, there's something... You can tell this fire... The whole story of the fires is so grossly exaggerated.

01:39:13.000 The fires were all small, and they don't affect steel buildings like this at all anyway.

01:39:18.000 And then, of course, with Building 7, you had another strange thing.

01:39:21.000 Between 4 and 5 p.m.

01:39:23.000 that afternoon, people that were near the building were told to get away because it might come down.

01:39:27.000 I mean, under what?

01:39:30.000 Who would ever say something like that?

01:39:31.000 Who would ever tell somebody, oh, stand back, that building, this might collapse?

01:39:36.000 By the way, and again, in your book and your film, and I've got all these news articles at PrisonPlanet.com, over 500, we stopped at about 550 articles on this.

01:39:47.000 Mainstream folks, Firefighters, engineers, they're all saying, we've never seen anything like this.

01:39:55.000 A building has never, never, a new design, that means the last 80 years, has never collapsed.

01:40:03.000 And they've been hit by aircraft before, Eric.

01:40:05.000 Right.

01:40:06.000 And they've had bombs go off in them, they've had fires, they've had earthquakes, all over the world.

01:40:11.000 I mean, you have disasters, but when do you ever see buildings do anything?

01:40:14.000 Steel buildings.

01:40:16.000 They don't do this.

01:40:18.000 And so we're supposed to believe that on that day, three buildings did something no building

01:40:23.000 has ever done before.

01:40:24.000 You know, it's like a Star Trek movie or something.

01:40:27.000 It's just bizarre.

01:40:29.000 And so how people can believe it, the way they get away with the Building 7 problem

01:40:33.000 is by ignoring it.

01:40:34.000 Just don't even talk about it.

01:40:36.000 I noticed in the PBS special and the Discovery special.

01:40:40.000 I watched both of them.

01:40:41.000 Not a mention of Building 7.

01:40:42.000 That's the best way.

01:40:43.000 It seems the best way to avoid this is to just don't talk about it, because if you talk about it, then people start saying, hey, wait a minute.

01:40:51.000 What hit that building?

01:40:52.000 What brought that down?

01:40:53.000 So you just don't mention it.

01:40:55.000 Most people will not go beyond what they see on TV.

01:40:58.000 They won't even ask these questions like, well, what happened?

01:41:02.000 And so if they don't mention it, then people don't even know it existed.

01:41:06.000 Well, again, it's like the electronic voting machines.

01:41:08.000 This is from Wired Magazine.

01:41:10.000 The Diebold emails consisted of internal correspondence sent by company employees to several staff mailing lists related to box fixes, technical support, and company announcements.

01:41:19.000 They detailed information about the internal workings of Electronic Voting Machine Maker and pointed to difficulties with the company's machines cited by employees and election officials.

01:41:27.000 Among revelations contained in the memos was information about the Microsoft Access database used by Diebold System to collect and calculate votes Was not protected by a password.

01:41:38.000 This meant someone could alter votes by entering the database through physical access to the machine or remotely using a phone system, which it was hooked up to.

01:41:45.000 The memos also reveal that the audit log, which records any activity of access to the database, could be easily altered so that an intruder could erase the record of intrusion.

01:41:54.000 My point is, is they've caught these companies, in elections, scamming it, and it's not on the nightly news, Eric.

01:42:00.000 It's the same thing.

01:42:02.000 Massive stuff, going on in plain view.

01:42:05.000 The average person has no idea.

01:42:07.000 Right.

01:42:07.000 This is one of the things that's, um, you know, when they created America, they had no idea television would ever exist.

01:42:14.000 Our Constitution is going to have to be redone to deal with this.

01:42:17.000 This is, like, incredible.

01:42:19.000 Television is more addictive than heroin or cocaine.

01:42:23.000 It has such control over people.

01:42:25.000 And not only does it have control over them, but there are some people that will look at my book and think, wow, this really was a scam.

01:42:32.000 But through the weeks of watching TV, they slowly get pulled back into the crowd of sheep.

01:42:39.000 Exactly.

01:42:40.000 I've talked to thousands of people who go, yeah, you're right about this, but there's nothing we can do.

01:42:45.000 And the average adult watches three hours and 46 minutes of TV.

01:42:48.000 It's a two-year-old study.

01:42:49.000 I'm told it's worse now.

01:42:51.000 Three plus hours.

01:42:54.000 An average child watches over four and a half hours.

01:42:58.000 This is incredible!

01:42:59.000 Right.

01:42:59.000 It's like a drug, and it has such control over people.

01:43:03.000 And of course, people also have a tendency to follow each other anyway.

01:43:07.000 So, I mean, this is something that our country should have... Of course, they had no idea it was coming, but, I mean, this control of the media, whoever has control of the television has control over the majority of people.

01:43:20.000 And the rest of us are just like in that Matrix movie saying, hey, what's going on? 0.94

01:43:25.000 This is ridiculous, you guys.

01:43:27.000 You know, it's like we're a small group trying to wake people up, and they're just in this fantasy world created for them by television. 0.99

01:43:36.000 The engineering professors, the designer of the building, they suddenly shut up real quick.

01:43:40.000 The firefighters, like Lou Cacioli, who was in People Magazine the week after saying that there were bombs going off.

01:43:47.000 I talked to him.

01:43:48.000 He said, I've been told not to talk and hung the phone up.

01:43:50.000 Why do you think they're telling him not to talk and declaring national security?

01:43:54.000 They said that all the firefighter radios malfunctioned, but it turns out none of them did.

01:43:58.000 The feds have grabbed those radios.

01:43:59.000 I wonder why, Eric?

01:44:01.000 Well, yeah, they confiscated a lot of information and a lot of people did get quiet.

01:44:05.000 You have to wonder what, you know what, obviously there's no reason to keep quiet if there's nothing to hide.

01:44:12.000 Secrecy only helps you when you're trying to commit some sort of a scam or something.

01:44:17.000 Also, there's a company called Controlled Demolition.

01:44:22.000 Controlled demolition did the controlled demolition, pun intended, of Oklahoma City a few weeks after the bombing.

01:44:29.000 They wouldn't let anybody in.

01:44:31.000 They took the remains to a landfill, poured concrete in with it, and have armed Wackenhut guards to this day. 0.87

01:44:37.000 What is it?

01:44:38.000 Seven, eight years later, we have that going on.

01:44:40.000 They're the company that took all the metal and hauled it to China, and the oldest firefighting group, Firefighter Engineers, went public and said this is a cover-up.

01:44:50.000 And they also said it's a crime.

01:44:52.000 He even said, we looked through the laws trying to find an exception.

01:44:56.000 And there's no exception.

01:44:58.000 You are not allowed to destroy that rubble.

01:45:01.000 I mean, you can see the difference between the rubble of the space shuttle.

01:45:05.000 You were told, don't touch that stuff or you're going to jail.

01:45:08.000 I interviewed a United Press International reporter about two weeks after the attacks who was arrested for taking photos.

01:45:16.000 Remember FEMA?

01:45:17.000 Right.

01:45:18.000 Banned all photography of the rubble?

01:45:20.000 Right.

01:45:21.000 Yeah, they were trying to keep people away from it.

01:45:23.000 Why would you ban photography of the rubble?

01:45:26.000 Yeah, they did the same with that Flight 93.

01:45:28.000 They arrested a couple of photographers over there, too.

01:45:31.000 They don't want you to see it, and there's only one reason.

01:45:33.000 Remember, secrecy only helps you if you're trying to commit a crime.

01:45:37.000 It doesn't help you if you're honest.

01:45:39.000 So, you have to ask yourself, when the government acts this way, there's got to be a reason.

01:45:44.000 And the reason is, they don't want you to know the truth, obviously.

01:45:48.000 Now, again, there's just so many facts in your book, in your film.

01:45:51.000 I want to take calls, Eric, but, I mean, where should we, what are some of the other points that we should go over?

01:45:59.000 I mean, it's an orgy of evidence here.

01:46:01.000 Oh yeah, well one of the, there's so much things, I know there's so much, it's so obvious that something's wrong here.

01:46:07.000 You have also the attack on the Pentagon, the complete lack of any dead bodies from the Flight 93, or the suitcases, the plane parts, I mean there's only, there's nothing at that site either.

01:46:22.000 And then you have all these strange coincidences, like it hit the empty section of the Pentagon, flying a few inches above the ground.

01:46:29.000 It flew in a manner that nobody can even fly an airplane.

01:46:32.000 And then it hits in an area where there's hardly anybody in it anyway.

01:46:36.000 So you have also that Pentagon thing, which is very suspicious.

01:46:41.000 This is the most photographed building, most surveilled in the world, and all they've got is four frames from a camera with an explosion.

01:46:52.000 And again, Eric, when we look at this, by no one can fly at that rate.

01:46:57.000 You have to slow down, put down your flaps, tip the plane up, come in at a slow speed to land one of those jets.

01:47:05.000 But in this case, it's at 500 and something miles an hour.

01:47:09.000 Going super fast, a few dozen feet off the ground, maybe, T-boning the Pentagon perfectly, then the Pentagon doesn't even collapse in on itself until later in the day, when they spray all the water on it, and they can't find a single piece of it.

01:47:23.000 Right, and then they send dogs in there to search for people, and the dog has got this blank expression on his face in every photograph you look at.

01:47:31.000 I mean, how can a dog not find pieces of 64 people?

01:47:35.000 That's a tremendous amount of people.

01:47:37.000 This dog is like clueless, which is only a sign that there were no bodies there.

01:47:42.000 That's how come it didn't see any.

01:47:44.000 Well, by the way, my dad had to do some of the identification because they were matching people by medical records back in, what was it, 84, 86, when that jet full of like 200-something people ran into that building at DFW, and he had to go Let's just say examine the bodies, and that thing burned, that thing exploded, that thing ran into a huge building, and only the pilots were unidentifiable by anything but their dental records.

01:48:16.000 Oh yeah, it's sort of ridiculous to assume a plane like that, 120 tons or whatever, can I mean, where does it go?

01:48:27.000 Well, they said that the parts burned up, but that never had happened in any other plane crash.

01:48:33.000 And furthermore, if it had happened, if a 120-ton airplane burned up, the aluminum would become aluminum oxide, which is like sand, so you'd have 100-something tons of sand or crusty By the way, by the way, in the photos and video after it just happened, it was green grass right up at the building.

01:48:54.000 The first thing they did four hours into it was to bring tons of sand, to dump sand on the ground to make it look like it was all blown up.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, it could have been.

01:49:06.000 It also may have been that they just wanted to bring in, they were sinking into the grass also.

01:49:12.000 I mean, the whole thing, you look at that grass, they're making jokes in France about it's like a golf course, you could go golfing on it.

01:49:19.000 This is after a plane hits it, and jet fuel's flying all over, people are flying all over, yet you can't see anything on the grass.

01:49:27.000 I mean, this is so silly, and then there's no hole in the building. 0.88

01:49:30.000 So, the whole Pentagon attack is really silly. 0.94

01:49:35.000 It's a difficult one for most people to deal with.

01:49:38.000 That's why you spend some time, mainly you spend it on Building 7 and the towers, and this is a whole area of research.

01:49:45.000 Again, you wrote a book and made a whole film just about that.

01:49:49.000 Then, you know, we do it as service and we don't also mention public officials told not to fly, NORAD standing down, Bin Laden's being flown out of the country, Bush ordering FBI not to stop, Al Qaeda W199i, insider trading by the government, U.S.

01:50:04.000 troops massing into Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

01:50:07.000 On and on and on.

01:50:08.000 CIA running drills of flying planes in the buildings.

01:50:11.000 That day, ordering NORAD to stand down.

01:50:14.000 Stay there, sir.

01:50:15.000 We'll come right back with Eric Hubschman and we'll take your calls at 800-259-9231.

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01:53:33.000 Alright, we're going to keep Eric Hubschman in the next hour if he can stay with us.

01:53:37.000 We're about to go to Art and Stuart and Dan and James and Rick and others that are patiently holding Before we go any further, I really do hope that all of you will go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

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01:54:26.000 Eric, I know there's a lot of facets to the film and the book we haven't gotten into yet, but we've thrown out a lot of these questions.

01:54:32.000 That they can't answer.

01:54:33.000 We know their side of the story is a lie.

01:54:36.000 We know the wildest conspiracy theory is to believe what they're saying.

01:54:38.000 I mean, this is even crazier than the lone assassin magic bullet.

01:54:44.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Art in Tennessee.

01:54:46.000 You're on the air with Eric Huffman.

01:54:47.000 Go ahead.

01:54:48.000 Alex, we're listening in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.

01:54:52.000 And David Wynn Miller has a video out with an explanation of what happened.

01:54:58.000 He says it was an electromagnetic impulse.

01:55:02.000 Which turns steel and concrete into dust, into powder.

01:55:06.000 You know, I'm going to say this.

01:55:08.000 We know that public officials were told not to fly.

01:55:10.000 We know Bush signed an order ordering the FBI not to stop Al Qaeda.

01:55:14.000 We know that they created Al Qaeda. 0.96

01:55:15.000 We know all of that.

01:55:16.000 We know the buildings fell, in some cases, faster than gravity.

01:55:21.000 We know Building 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft.

01:55:23.000 We know they're having trouble explaining the Pentagon.

01:55:25.000 We know all that.

01:55:26.000 To get into electromagnetic pulses, or was there something on the belly of the plane, That is, again, getting off on the edge of things we can't prove, Art.

01:55:39.000 Well, I was just wondering if you were aware of it.

01:55:41.000 He said the furniture was all changed the month prior to 9-11.

01:55:46.000 It contained the electronics to pull us off.

01:55:49.000 Well, you might check his video out and see what you think about it.

01:55:52.000 It's like arguing over what type of bullet hit John Kennedy.

01:55:55.000 I mean, it's a scam regardless of whether it was lead or copper or steel.

01:55:59.000 I mean, it doesn't really change much.

01:56:03.000 You know, whether they had explosives or what type of explosives, those buildings did not come down because of Osama. 0.82

01:56:09.000 They came down because somebody in the U.S.

01:56:12.000 government allowed it to happen.

01:56:14.000 I agree with that.

01:56:15.000 How did Osama Bin Laden order NORAD to stand down?

01:56:18.000 How did Osama Bin Laden do the insider trading?

01:56:20.000 How did Osama Bin Laden sign W1999?

01:56:23.000 How did Osama Bin Laden get the Bin Ladens and the Saudi Royals flown out when all their air traffic was grounded?

01:56:28.000 How did they do that?

01:56:30.000 How did they have the CIA run a drill that morning of flying hijacked jets into buildings?

01:56:36.000 Well, it had to be somebody in the USA to have the knowledge to pull this off.

01:56:41.000 I know this, those buildings evaporated.

01:56:43.000 You say hundreds of feet, it was thousands of yards, white plumes shooting out.

01:56:49.000 If you'll notice in the USA Today picture that they put out, with all the dust flying everywhere, all the paper was just floating around.

01:56:58.000 It didn't, the paper wasn't burned or anything.

01:57:00.000 Absolutely, great points Art.

01:57:03.000 I guess up next is, who's up next?

01:57:09.000 Who in Virginia?

01:57:10.000 Stuart, you're on the air.

01:57:11.000 Go ahead.

01:57:12.000 Great.

01:57:13.000 Mr. Huffschmid, I think your documentaries are right on target.

01:57:18.000 In a discussion I had with a high-ranking officer the other day, I kind of stumbled at a point.

01:57:24.000 He objected that Building 7 had these tremendous reservoirs of oil for the generator station there.

01:57:31.000 Right.

01:57:31.000 That that is what brought it down, and I had a second question about the Pentagon.

01:57:35.000 Well, the idea that the oil brought it down, still there's no explanation for how that did it.

01:57:41.000 How does burning oil do it?

01:57:43.000 I mean, how does burning oil cause a building to fall, and especially in the manner in which it fell?

01:57:49.000 Yeah, it didn't explode out like a demolition, it collapsed.

01:57:53.000 Stay there, Stewart.

01:57:56.000 Ask him, did the oil make NORAD stand down?

01:58:00.000 Did it make Bush sign W199I?

01:58:03.000 Just incredible.

01:58:05.000 So stay there, Stuart.

01:58:06.000 We'll come back to you and others in the third hour.

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01:58:54.000 All right, folks, we're into the third hour.

01:59:09.000 We're talking to documentary filmmaker and author Eric Huffshuman.

01:59:12.000 I'm Alex Jones.

01:59:16.000 And we're going over the fact that Building 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft, but it imploded and fell down symmetrically.

01:59:23.000 In about, what, 3.1 seconds or faster than a bowling ball would fall.

01:59:28.000 Only by blowing out the lower floors can something like this happen by basically evaporating the lower floors, then the building isn't as tall and falls.

01:59:39.000 We also have people saying, well, the jet fuel in the other buildings caused this.

01:59:43.000 Well, the firefighters, this has been in the New York Daily News, before they were told to shut up by a federal gag order.

01:59:50.000 And the Feds claim their radios malfunctioned.

01:59:52.000 That's why they couldn't release the tapes.

01:59:53.000 Turns out that was all lies.

01:59:54.000 This is now all admitted.

01:59:57.000 They said the fires were almost out.

01:59:58.000 There were people walking around where the planes had crashed.

02:00:01.000 There was no problem.

02:00:03.000 The fires were only in some of the upper floors and were, again, going out.

02:00:08.000 This is on the record.

02:00:09.000 But then the fires caused the pancaking and the whole thing to fall apart.

02:00:12.000 It melted the steel.

02:00:15.000 Despite the fact that jet fuel burns at about 1,100 degrees and to melt steel at least 1,800 degrees, this is all scientific fact.

02:00:25.000 And then now we hear the excuse of, well, Building 7 fell down because there was a coal oil tank in there.

02:00:34.000 Well, it would have exploded.

02:00:35.000 It would have blown part of the building out. 0.94

02:00:38.000 But, you know, thousands of pounds of plastic explosive wouldn't have brought down that building if it was all in one spot.

02:00:43.000 It would have to be on different girders.

02:00:46.000 So, any type of psychological gymnastics to deny what's happening.

02:00:51.000 Stewart in Virginia was saying, he talked to a high-level military officer, who said it was all the oil, the coal oil, which burns, by the way, very cold.

02:01:01.000 And oil, coal oil doesn't explode unless you put an explosive in it.

02:01:05.000 It just burns.

02:01:07.000 But go ahead, Stewart, and comment further.

02:01:10.000 Well, this was all part of a general officer briefing.

02:01:14.000 Made available to flag rank personnel, I guess, retired and others in the Washington area.

02:01:20.000 They gave them a briefing of how the buildings came down?

02:01:23.000 Yes.

02:01:24.000 And the other feature I wanted to ask Mr. Huffschmid about was, it was claimed that the density of the metal used in the avionics, like the radar and everything in the nose cone of that alleged airliner, was able to penetrate through all those concrete walls into I don't know what ring of the Pentagon.

02:01:43.000 You have that picture?

02:01:44.000 Well yeah, they have a picture of a no real hole, but then where is the plane then?

02:01:49.000 If it went inside, if it did penetrate, there's nothing inside of it either.

02:01:56.000 All the photos, all they show is office furniture and building materials.

02:01:59.000 Yeah, I've seen video of inside with the open hole in the wall, and there's nothing.

02:02:04.000 There's furniture still sitting there.

02:02:06.000 Do you have any feel at all for what was carried away under that tarp?

02:02:10.000 No, absolutely.

02:02:12.000 They're not letting any information out.

02:02:14.000 The military has got to be the most secret organization.

02:02:17.000 By the way, this is the same military that plants hundreds of fake letters from the troops, how much they love the war, and claims that Niger sold uranium and puts out fake documents.

02:02:28.000 It all rather reminds me of Isaiah's criticism of Israel in his time, that she was corrupt from the head to the toe.

02:02:36.000 The high-ranking people and the lower orders are quite cheerful to follow the higher-ranking people on to imperialistic adventures around the world.

02:02:44.000 Well, I want to know this.

02:02:45.000 It's the most surveilled area in the world.

02:02:47.000 Where is the video of the plane?

02:02:50.000 They're keeping it a secret.

02:02:51.000 They've got it, and they only let us see a couple frames.

02:02:55.000 Well, look, they declared national security.

02:02:57.000 I've had the lawyers on who sued in the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:03:00.000 They had over a dozen videotapes of specifically that truck.

02:03:06.000 But again, they've got the tapes, national security, on Oklahoma City, they will not release them. 0.95

02:03:12.000 It's incredible to me that no general officers slapped their thighs and said, this is ridiculous. 1.00

02:03:17.000 What kind of idiots do you think we are at that briefing? 1.00

02:03:21.000 Well, some of them may have, and see what I'm thinking is happening... Hey, I'll tell you what, stay there, Stewart. 1.00

02:03:26.000 Are you in the military, Stewart?

02:03:28.000 Stay there.

02:03:29.000 Stay there, Eric.

02:03:30.000 Stay there, Stewart.

02:03:30.000 We'll talk more.

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02:03:35.000 Pollen.

02:03:36.000 Is it as healthy as you'd like it?

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02:03:38.000 Probably not.

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02:03:50.000 Worse.

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02:03:59.000 Toxic fumes.

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02:06:53.000 Alright, we had Stuart on the line from Virginia.

02:07:12.000 Talking about some military briefing and for some reason the phone line disconnected.

02:07:16.000 So Stuart, if you can get back through I'd like to hear more about this military briefing where they're standing around telling you how building 7 collapsed.

02:07:26.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

02:07:28.000 It's like that special FEMA report they put out about how Oklahoma City, how the truck bomb did this, how it blew the building out and blew chunks of it across the street.

02:07:38.000 It's incredible what they do.

02:07:40.000 We're about to go on to some more calls.

02:07:42.000 Eric Huffman, you were trying to say something before we hit that last break.

02:07:44.000 I think he was saying how they all fall for this.

02:07:48.000 See, it's not just incredible that they do it, it's incredible that so many people will accept it without thinking.

02:07:54.000 That's what I find, that's what's been amazing to me ever since my book's been out, is the incredible ease at which people can be manipulated.

02:08:03.000 And I think that's like an issue in itself, the ease at which this is occurring.

02:08:07.000 It's giving them confidence just to keep going.

02:08:10.000 Unless people do something, it's just going to go on and on and on, probably.

02:08:16.000 Absolutely.

02:08:18.000 Real tragedy to see this happening.

02:08:20.000 Let's go on to Dan in Illinois.

02:08:23.000 Dan, you're on the air.

02:08:24.000 Go ahead.

02:08:25.000 Yeah, Eric, just in response to what you were just saying, it's because the society keeps turning this responsibility over to the government.

02:08:32.000 Yeah, the voters do not want to be held responsible for anything.

02:08:35.000 The people don't want to be.

02:08:36.000 I mean, even now they're trying to say when they get fat, it's because of McDonald's.

02:08:40.000 I mean, it's People don't want to be responsible. 0.83

02:08:43.000 They don't want to take part in what they're supposed to be doing.

02:08:45.000 And now they're going to tax us through our national ID cards.

02:08:48.000 That's how they're going to sell it to us.

02:08:49.000 We have to swipe it to see if we're eating too much fattening food.

02:08:53.000 They've already got the children trained with these cards, doing that at the schools.

02:08:56.000 And if they're one pound overweight, they send CPS after the children.

02:09:00.000 uh... now in arkansas and again it is this mindless culture 0.63

02:09:05.000 now but again i see a lot of people waking up but we're not the majority but

02:09:09.000 we are a huge mass tens of millions of people

02:09:13.000 but now what's happening in folks here's an exercise

02:09:16.000 Think of all the crimes you know the government's committed.

02:09:19.000 Think of all the bad things they've done.

02:09:20.000 All the lies they've told.

02:09:22.000 And it's the big, institutional monster that can do these things on a mass scale.

02:09:26.000 But still, you trust them.

02:09:29.000 Oh, well, they wouldn't do something wrong.

02:09:31.000 Oh, they wouldn't?

02:09:33.000 Well, as you turn the responsibility over, you become more childish.

02:09:38.000 And then they become more the parent.

02:09:39.000 So it's like facing your parent head-on that they're evil.

02:09:44.000 That's a good way of looking at it, I guess.

02:09:46.000 They're teaching people, don't be responsible.

02:09:48.000 You're helpless.

02:09:49.000 Just feel sorry for yourself.

02:09:51.000 We'll take care of you.

02:09:52.000 That's the attitude in this country.

02:09:55.000 How did Osama Bin Laden turn off the no-fly zone in the Pentagon?

02:10:01.000 How did he stop those stock market investigations around the world, too?

02:10:04.000 That was another good one. 0.99

02:10:07.000 It's just so silly. 0.72

02:10:08.000 You guys were talking about voting before.

02:10:11.000 I just wanted to ask you a question.

02:10:12.000 Nobody's ever talked about this.

02:10:14.000 That one senator that got killed in Minnesota in that airplane crash?

02:10:18.000 Wellstone?

02:10:19.000 Wellstone.

02:10:19.000 Right.

02:10:21.000 Mondale, the ex-Vice President, ran in his place.

02:10:26.000 And you usually get the sympathy vote of the person who just dies.

02:10:30.000 And he loses?

02:10:31.000 How did he lose?

02:10:33.000 Yeah, that could be another one of the voting.

02:10:35.000 If there was that touch screen up there?

02:10:37.000 I don't know, but... Here's the point.

02:10:41.000 We have dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of local, state, and federal elections where the touchscreen companies have been caught remotely accessing and stealing elections in plain view.

02:10:54.000 When they get caught, they say it's an accident that they illegally backdoor go in and change votes.

02:10:59.000 They have been caught doing it.

02:11:02.000 It isn't they could be doing it up in Minnesota.

02:11:05.000 They've been caught doing it.

02:11:07.000 Well, if they can make that investigation of the plane go away.

02:11:10.000 Nobody's ever even looked into it.

02:11:12.000 They sure can act and fix an election.

02:11:14.000 That's the point of 9-11.

02:11:15.000 They can assassinate a president right in front of us.

02:11:17.000 They can steal elections right in front of us.

02:11:19.000 they can blow up buildings right in front of us now they can find al-qaeda the taliban and fly eight 0.96

02:11:24.000 thousand of them out the safety in that stage war when they get caught doing it it's

02:11:28.000 in the news one day and i say it was an accident the cia put them on jets and

02:11:33.000 flew them out of here it's an accident

02:11:35.000 then the white house says we never heard of plans of flying planes into buildings

02:11:40.000 when they had all these drills over these years when public officials were

02:11:43.000 warned not to fly and that morning

02:11:46.000 they're running a drill of the same thing in the exact areas of new york in

02:11:50.000 And again, the drill is the way to order NORAD to stand down.

02:11:55.000 Right.

02:11:56.000 I need Steve, or Stuart, to call back in, because we accidentally disconnected him during that break, and I want to hear about this military briefing he was in, 1-800-259-9231.

02:12:04.000 Dan, thanks for the call.

02:12:06.000 Go ahead, Eric.

02:12:06.000 Dan, thanks for the call.

02:12:07.000 I'll let you go to the next one.

02:12:08.000 Go ahead, Eric.

02:12:09.000 Oh, yeah, I was going to say, I have to agree with you, and I forgot what I was going to

02:12:14.000 say, but it's just shocking that they're not only getting away with it, but then they feed

02:12:19.000 people the TV, and that meeting that he was talking about, maybe to just put the ideas

02:12:25.000 in everyone's mind, oh, here's what Building 7 was, so that when they hear any alternative

02:12:29.000 opinion, they've already been told what's official, and they already know what's official.

02:12:35.000 So then, you know, by feeding people the lie first, Anything that comes in after is now like contradicting the authority.

02:12:42.000 Well, I had Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, the guy who has 400 plus families represented by him, suing Bush for running 9-11, not for prior knowledge.

02:12:53.000 He's deposed all these colonels and generals and people because they had to answer his questions in that deposition about how NORAB was ordered to stand down.

02:13:03.000 Hilton comes on and talks about that, about how the White House was ordering him to stand down.

02:13:09.000 ABC News has to admit that Dick Cheney is on the loudspeakers in the continuity of government bunkers, this is admitted, giving them some message.

02:13:19.000 Now, they won't release the transcripts of what his orders were, And then on top of this, to get out ahead of the story, two weeks after we break it here, suddenly, we put out a transcript of it, it went all over the internet, got tens of millions of readers, with Hilton saying this, suddenly the AP comes out, oh yeah, there was a drill that morning of flying hijacked jets into buildings.

02:13:43.000 You understand how that gets out ahead of it?

02:13:46.000 So now if it comes out, they go, oh it was just a drill, see?

02:13:49.000 Right, they feed everything first that they want you to know.

02:13:54.000 And then anything that comes after it is contradicting them.

02:13:56.000 So it's a good way to get going, you know, get something going.

02:13:58.000 Well, I mean, it's open damage control.

02:14:02.000 Hilton's making these allegations, and then they try to get out ahead of it and go, yeah, yeah, we were running a drill that morning at 8.30 in the morning.

02:14:12.000 And then there's never a discussion of it.

02:14:15.000 It's just, here's our reason.

02:14:16.000 There's no questioning.

02:14:17.000 I know there's no thinking.

02:14:19.000 And that's what our schools, of course, teach, too, is don't think.

02:14:21.000 Just sit there like a baby while we spoon-feed you with what you're supposed to know. 0.99

02:14:25.000 I mean, there's no kicking them in the butt and saying, get to work. 0.99

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02:14:37.000 All right, let's talk to James in Texas.

02:14:39.000 James, you're on the air.

02:14:40.000 Go ahead.

02:14:40.000 Hello?

02:14:44.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:14:45.000 Hey, this is actually Jason.

02:14:47.000 Okay, Jason, welcome.

02:14:48.000 Hey, thanks.

02:14:49.000 Listen, I've called before.

02:14:51.000 Really quickly, as far as context is concerned, I know that you've alluded to both the Liberty and then indirectly alluded to the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:15:02.000 But there's a congressman that is near and dear to your heart that, after the Oklahoma City bombing, actually financed his own private investigation of the bombing.

02:15:15.000 You know, because of all the national security calls that were released on those tapes.

02:15:22.000 But contextually speaking, this is nothing new.

02:15:24.000 If you recall, just before the Oklahoma City bombing, there was legislation in place on domestic terrorism, and the lobbying groups did analysis and realized that there wasn't support for it, and then two weeks later, the next thing you know, a Ryder truck pulls up in front of the Murray Building in Oklahoma City, The thing blows up six weeks later.

02:15:45.000 Domestic terrorism bills pass unanimously with one or two dissenting votes, one of which was said congressman that's near and dear to your heart.

02:15:57.000 Hello?

02:15:58.000 It's amazing.

02:15:59.000 Eric Huffman comments to what Jason's saying.

02:16:02.000 Well, yeah, I guess he's saying basically that this goes on and on.

02:16:06.000 In front of our faces is what I suppose he's trying to say.

02:16:09.000 Well, yeah, I mean, basically what I'm trying to say is, you know, that was obviously during the Clinton administration.

02:16:16.000 And, you know, September 11th was during the Bush administration.

02:16:19.000 And, you know, I think what needs to come to an end is the dichotomy between liberal and conservative politics.

02:16:25.000 Because, quite frankly, it doesn't matter if somebody's a self-declared liberal or somebody's a self-declared conservative, that there's an apparatus in place To basically, you know, thunderbolt through legislation that, you know, is in accordance with current paradigm.

02:16:43.000 Well, that's it, Jason.

02:16:44.000 That's a good point.

02:16:44.000 And on top of it, I heard so-called neocon talk radio that'll tell you about the problems, but not how Republicans are going along with it or energetically getting it passed.

02:16:53.000 It's all the Democrats are bad. 0.93

02:16:55.000 I mean, I heard one of the big national hosts attacking Hillary, who I can't stand, who's a horrible creature. 1.00

02:17:01.000 For going to Afghanistan to hand out turkeys. 1.00

02:17:04.000 But then say it was good that Bush went to Baghdad to hand out turkeys, that that wasn't a political stunt.

02:17:10.000 And so it's double think.

02:17:11.000 The people can see that it's a stunt by Hillary, but not by Bush in the same sentence.

02:17:18.000 It's mind control.

02:17:20.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

02:17:23.000 Well, the fact remains, I mean, what you need to point out, and, you know, you more or less do this on a daily basis, is that, you know, people have to basically get off of the government pit.

02:17:37.000 I mean, as far as information's concerned, as far as, you know, corporate and private welfare's concerned, just get off of it, and, you know, the quicker that we do so, And the quicker that we dissolve this dependency, the quicker that this will come to an end.

02:17:52.000 And we know that, so they're trying to get us all with psychiatric designations, they're trying to get us all on drugs, or they're trying to get us in the criminal justice system, or now they've got the national draft that they're engineering to get us all in the system one way or another.

02:18:08.000 Or on the flip side, what we can do is we can all get on welfare.

02:18:11.000 And we can dissolve the government much more quickly in that capacity.

02:18:14.000 And in doing so, you know, basically history has proven history true, just like the Roman Empire.

02:18:19.000 It dissolves and we possibly get something that's a little bit more aligned with our, you know, our mores and values.

02:18:24.000 I hear you, Jason.

02:18:25.000 Interesting points.

02:18:26.000 We'll get Eric Hubschman's take on them.

02:18:27.000 We get back and take more calls.

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02:22:46.000 Back live, talking to Eric Hubschmidt.

02:22:49.000 And it's not just Kennedy, it's not just Oklahoma City or the second World Trade Center attack.

02:22:55.000 It's the first World Trade Center attack where the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the drivers. 0.62

02:23:00.000 That was admitted in the Chicago Tribune, New York Times.

02:23:03.000 They just calmly announced, yeah, the FBI cooked the bombs and let it go forward.

02:23:08.000 They're real sorry about that.

02:23:10.000 And I've got the, right here, I've got the Saudi Arabians going, hey, the MI6 is blowing stuff up over here to destabilize the country. 0.99

02:23:20.000 We're not doing this. 0.65

02:23:21.000 They want radical Muslims to take over, overthrow the country, so they have an excuse to come in and invade the place and take it over. 0.99

02:23:27.000 And that's exactly what the globalists are talking about doing. 0.97

02:23:30.000 So it's just all about war, folks.

02:23:33.000 It's all hidden in plain view.

02:23:36.000 Eric Huffman, I'm sure you've heard of Donald Rumsfeld's P-2-O-G Pentagon group that admits they go out and kill people's families to get them to attack them so they have an excuse to target the enemy.

02:23:47.000 I mean, this is bringing down attacks on us, real attacks, and they just love it because the cattle out there will buy into this. 0.95

02:23:56.000 Comments, Eric, before we go to John and John?

02:23:58.000 Well, yeah, the problem is it's easy to stimulate anger with people.

02:24:03.000 I mean, all you do is fake a terrorist attack, but it's very difficult to stimulate responsibility or thinking.

02:24:11.000 So what they're doing, basically, is taking advantage of this weakness of human behavior and giving us fake attacks, stimulating anger, and then sending them off.

02:24:20.000 Go over there! 1.00

02:24:20.000 Go kill, kill, kill! 1.00

02:24:22.000 And by the way, the Northwoods plan says that killing Americans, having lists of casualties in U.S. 1.00

02:24:27.000 newspapers will cause a helpful wave of national indignation.

02:24:31.000 Let's talk to John in Tennessee, then John in Kansas and others.

02:24:35.000 Go ahead, John.

02:24:36.000 I've seen Eric's video.

02:24:38.000 It was really good, especially the proof that a cruise missile or a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon.

02:24:43.000 And it's now so obvious that jet fuel can't melt steel buildings that a PBS special this year alleged that burning paper Made the World Trade Center collapse.

02:24:54.000 And that's getting even worse because paper burns at an even lower temperature.

02:24:58.000 Yeah, it's a oxygen stealer.

02:25:00.000 It steals the available oxygen and then smolders.

02:25:03.000 Has anyone ever tried to throw a bunch of newspapers into a raging outside fire?

02:25:07.000 It can burn for 20 minutes and down in the core, it'll still be paper.

02:25:13.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:25:14.000 Well, it's obvious that demolition charges brought it down.

02:25:17.000 Controlled Demolitions Incorporated and Browning Ferris Industries We're paid $7 billion to clean up the World Trade Center massacre, but it only cost $1 billion to build the World Trade Center.

02:25:28.000 And of course, they also worked together after the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:25:32.000 And CDIs exploded 7,000 buildings, mainly for the government in Hollywood, and in the movie Enemy of the State, the evil director of NSA had his birthday on 9-1-1.

02:25:45.000 And BFI's employees were convicted under the RICO Act for defrauding the World Trade Center for garbage contracts, And for membership in the Gambino and Genovese Mafias, the CEO of BFI lives near Knoxville, Tennessee, and the owners of CDI graduated from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville.

02:26:04.000 By the way, that whole thing about the trash company's been on 60 Minutes.

02:26:08.000 Yeah, and A&E, Modern Mob.

02:26:11.000 Our Skull & Bones Mayor, Victor Ashe, just dedicated a memorial to 9-1-1 in Knoxville, which is a black Yeah, and you know, a $250,000 shipment of mercury. 0.95

02:26:20.000 three thousand victim and what is nobody report that the new york daily news

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02:26:27.000 mafia mayor julianna's entire family were convicted for murder armed robbery

02:26:31.000 hijacking car theft extortion and father was a mafia enforcer now by hijacking uh...

02:26:37.000 hijacking uh... cargo uh... trucks yeah and you know of two hundred fifty thousand dollar

02:26:43.000 shipment of mercury and that's what he had jackie he doesn't go

02:26:46.000 for carjacking on the local corner.

02:26:49.000 You know, he goes for the big time.

02:26:51.000 These are very serious people.

02:26:54.000 The Nazi wealth was funneled through Prescott Bush, according to mainstream reports, right up until 1953.

02:27:00.000 Thanks for the call.

02:27:01.000 Great points.

02:27:02.000 Eric Huffschmid comments.

02:27:03.000 Well, I'd agree.

02:27:04.000 I mean, the corruption is extreme.

02:27:07.000 Part of the problem is there's so many people in this country willing to do it, and then there's an enormous number willing to ignore it all.

02:27:13.000 And that just allows it to continue.

02:27:16.000 Watching a fire burn in your house, instead of putting it out, you just go to the TV and say, oh, what can I do?

02:27:21.000 I'm just one person.

02:27:22.000 See, it's this attitude that we can't do anything that's allowing this.

02:27:26.000 But that's not true.

02:27:27.000 Over 400 cities, 4 states have thrown out the Patriot Act.

02:27:31.000 99 plus percent of the firefighters and police and medical workers have refused a smallpox shot.

02:27:36.000 That's holding them back from launching that attack because their enforcers aren't inoculated and now give it to us.

02:27:41.000 People are speaking up against the end of Posse Comitatus, Diebold, and the other electronic touchscreen companies are getting exposed.

02:27:47.000 That's right, that's what they need.

02:27:48.000 People are refusing, they're demanding organic produce and milk and meats now.

02:27:54.000 People are waking up, Eric.

02:27:55.000 Yeah, that's what we need.

02:27:56.000 It's more people to realize they are not helpless.

02:28:00.000 Stay there Eric Kapschman, you did an amazing job.

02:28:02.000 We'll come back, tell folks how to get the video, get into more of what's in the film.

02:28:05.000 Talk about the Saudi Arabians, the new report where they say the globalists are behind the terror over there. 1.00

02:28:10.000 So are the Filipinos, so are the folks in Indonesia.

02:28:14.000 We'll talk to John, we'll talk to Brian, we'll talk to Barbara, and others as well.

02:28:20.000 Stay with us.

02:28:23.000 We're on the march.

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02:31:29.000 From his Central Texas Command Center deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:31:42.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:31:49.000 Alright, we're back live.

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02:31:52.000 Just briefly, folks.

02:31:52.000 1-800-259-9231 Just briefly folks, if you want this great new video,

02:32:02.000 painful deceptions, how did Osama Bin Laden pull off such a devastating attack? 0.99

02:32:08.000 The World Trade Center towers.

02:32:10.000 How could both towers disintegrate into dust in short sections of steel in less than 10 seconds?

02:32:17.000 Building 7 of the World Trade Center.

02:32:19.000 How could this 47-story steel-framed building disintegrate at 5.30 that evening?

02:32:25.000 The attack at the Pentagon.

02:32:26.000 How could a terrorist fly a Boeing 757 into the restricted airspace around the Pentagon?

02:32:31.000 Where's the plane?

02:32:32.000 Where's the video of it?

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02:34:01.000 I want you to air them on AXS TV.

02:34:03.000 I'm begging you to show them to your VFW hall, your college students.

02:34:07.000 I want to thank those that have been doing this.

02:34:09.000 It's had a massive effect.

02:34:10.000 It's had a huge effect.

02:34:12.000 I do radio interviews every single day.

02:34:17.000 Sometimes four or five a day.

02:34:18.000 Sometimes I've done like eight or nine in one day.

02:34:21.000 And almost every caller that calls the show Has seen my videos.

02:34:27.000 And I ask them, I go, have you seen them?

02:34:30.000 Did you buy them from me?

02:34:32.000 No, it was on local access, or they showed it at my church, or my neighbor gave me a copy of a copy of a copy.

02:34:39.000 I've had Congress people on who have announced this unbeknownst to me.

02:34:42.000 It's having a huge effect.

02:34:45.000 So please get the videos, please take action.

02:34:47.000 Eric Huffschmid with your film, Painful Deceptions, I know in an earlier version of the film, and I believe it's in the new version, you talk about Road to Tyranny.

02:35:00.000 Did Road to Tyranny answer any questions for you?

02:35:03.000 Was that a film you think is good?

02:35:07.000 Eric Huffman?

02:35:08.000 You know, the Oklahoma City thing, there was a lot of cover-ups.

02:35:12.000 See, out here, you guys may see more because it was closer to you in Texas, but out here in California, we did not see those local news reports that you guys might have had access to.

02:35:22.000 You know, films like yours are, you know, providing a lot of information that we never even knew about.

02:35:29.000 And like you say, your expression, information war, that is really what is going on here.

02:35:34.000 It's who controls the information, and people who don't think they have any authority, you know, the people that say, oh, I'm just a little fish, what can I do?

02:35:43.000 They can take these videos and books and then slip it into people's houses and bypass that television.

02:35:49.000 You know, and it's in a sense like it's a soldier sneaking around, Getting into the enemy territory and saying, here, look at this.

02:35:55.000 And here's the difference.

02:35:57.000 The enemy has to reapply their lies on a daily basis.

02:36:01.000 Once we show somebody how they've been lied to, once we put the questions in their minds, they're going to seek the answers.

02:36:08.000 They're going to start seeing the propaganda.

02:36:10.000 I mean, I've said this over and over again.

02:36:12.000 When you watch dramas and sitcoms, there's more propaganda there than on CNN or Fox.

02:36:18.000 It is wall-to-wall.

02:36:20.000 Start consciously looking at what they're trying to sell you, what type of mindset they're pushing, what type of government.

02:36:28.000 I mean, Eric, I don't watch more than an hour of TV every two weeks.

02:36:32.000 This weekend I watched three or four hours because it was vacation time and I wanted to monitor stuff.

02:36:38.000 I saw two or three shows where torture is good.

02:36:41.000 Shows where homeschooling's bad.

02:36:43.000 Shows where guns are bad.

02:36:45.000 Shows where the government's good.

02:36:46.000 I mean, it's wall-to-wall.

02:36:48.000 When you watch television, do you see all the propaganda?

02:36:51.000 Well, I never even had a TV.

02:36:53.000 I got sick of it when I was a teenager.

02:36:54.000 So, right now, I only have it just so I can see a couple of these videos like yours and some of the others.

02:36:59.000 But I agree with you, and you should see things like the Threat Matrix.

02:37:03.000 You talk about propaganda.

02:37:04.000 That one's ready to get people signed up to be Homeland Security agents.

02:37:08.000 Okay, the show Threat Matrix.

02:37:09.000 Again, I will not watch it.

02:37:11.000 Listeners have sent me some copies of it.

02:37:12.000 I'm going to be reviewing them soon.

02:37:13.000 Keep it up, folks.

02:37:14.000 Threat Matrix, 24 with Kiefer Southerland, In the Line of Fire, some other new show.

02:37:19.000 I go to ABC's website, I read the synopsis for this week's episode, and it'll say, You know, their unlimited power.

02:37:27.000 They've got to get answers.

02:37:29.000 And then I go see a movie, Open Range, and they had an ad for Threat Matrix before it.

02:37:36.000 And in the ad for Threat Matrix, they got a guy chained down, lesions all over him, and they're torturing him, and it's a good thing.

02:37:44.000 The hero, the woman, is torturing him, and it's good. 1.00

02:37:47.000 It's a very persuasive movie, but it's got all these subtle messages also in it.

02:37:54.000 Basically, it's really blatant.

02:37:56.000 Everybody's getting surveilled in another Threat Matrix show because I read the synopsis of it and listeners called in about it.

02:38:05.000 It said, Billy Bob's a Gulf War veteran.

02:38:08.000 He loves America, but he deals drugs.

02:38:11.000 Because he's a drug dealer, he's arrested and his children are taken under the Patriot Act.

02:38:15.000 Drug dealing is an act of terror.

02:38:18.000 And in the real world, they're using it for drug dealers and topless bars and county commissioners in zoning scams.

02:38:26.000 See, folks, what they're doing?

02:38:28.000 Well, it's like Jerry Bruckheimer producing the Saving Private Lynch.

02:38:32.000 He actually consulted them on how to do that and how to phrase it and what to call it.

02:38:38.000 This is the guy that makes Pirates of the Caribbean, folks, and Black Hawk Down.

02:38:44.000 Well, Eric, if we just do one thing, and we just get them to think that, hey, they may be being lied to and manipulated, then if they'll just witness it, it'll be horrifying.

02:38:53.000 That's why I can't watch TV, Eric.

02:38:55.000 It is horrifying to know how evil they've gotten.

02:38:58.000 Yeah, it's bad.

02:38:59.000 Plus, it's a waste of your life, anyway.

02:39:02.000 It is.

02:39:02.000 Let's talk to John in Kansas.

02:39:03.000 John, thanks for holding.

02:39:04.000 Go ahead.

02:39:05.000 Yeah, thanks, sir.

02:39:07.000 Pleasure to speak with you.

02:39:09.000 This is going to blow your listeners' mind.

02:39:13.000 This is Top and Class 5 material.

02:39:17.000 Hey, go ahead.

02:39:19.000 Okay.

02:39:21.000 I've talked to a physicist.

02:39:23.000 Yeah, I work for the government.

02:39:26.000 Who believes the laser beam technology was infrared, originally developed by Israel and Soviet Union.

02:39:36.000 That caused the collapse of the towers.

02:39:41.000 And, uh, Cheney and Bush have already asked, uh, Leader, uh, Daschle, uh, to limit congressional investigation.

02:39:52.000 And, uh, he asked the House and Senate Committee... Well, sir, sir, sir, sir.

02:39:58.000 Again, we know that their story's a fraud.

02:40:01.000 We know they were involved.

02:40:03.000 But to say it was particle beams or magnetic weapons, we can never prove that.

02:40:08.000 It's a black hole.

02:40:11.000 Well, actually not, Alex.

02:40:12.000 Fire Engineering Magazine, a 125-year-old respected journal, published technical studies of major fires, recently criticized FEMA, and numerous indicators of fuel fires, as you know, Hey, sir, sir, I appreciate the call, John.

02:40:40.000 I really do.

02:40:41.000 What you're reading is firefighter engineering from two years ago, and that's in Road to Tyranny, where they said there's a cover-up and that fires couldn't do that to the buildings, but then that doesn't mean that it's particle beams.

02:40:54.000 Eric Huffsman?

02:40:55.000 Well, I agree.

02:40:56.000 It's just like I said, it's like arguing over what kind of bullet hit Kennedy.

02:40:59.000 I mean, it's like, what difference does it make anyway?

02:41:02.000 It's still a scam.

02:41:04.000 So, we can't really prove it no matter what, whether it was conventional explosives or particle beams.

02:41:10.000 What difference does it make?

02:41:11.000 It wasn't Osama.

02:41:12.000 That's what's important.

02:41:14.000 And so, what's the sense of arguing about it?

02:41:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:41:20.000 To me, it's just a waste.

02:41:22.000 Well, absolutely, Eric.

02:41:25.000 Elaborate just in bullet points what your film covers for folks that just joined us, then we'll go on to more callers.

02:41:30.000 Well, it goes over things like how the Pentagon, you know, the Pentagon is a very suspicious one.

02:41:35.000 There's a lot of secrecy about it.

02:41:37.000 There's no sign of any airplane hitting it.

02:41:39.000 There's no sign of it.

02:41:40.000 There's something hitting it.

02:41:41.000 There is definitely something going on there, but it does not look like a passenger commercial jet full of people.

02:41:49.000 So something hit it, and it goes over that issue.

02:41:51.000 Well, I have some local newscasts where the first witnesses were saying they saw a quote, small commuter plane.

02:41:59.000 Right, and some people say it sounded like a little missile.

02:42:04.000 The witness reports do not even support the accusation that it was a large commercial plane.

02:42:09.000 Because they have military witnesses who were running around going, I saw a missile, I saw a missile.

02:42:14.000 And they go, well, you know, people on the scene are notoriously, you know, off target.

02:42:19.000 How do they not get a plane, a passenger jet, compared to a missile?

02:42:24.000 And yeah, people are notoriously inaccurate, but at the same time, where's the plane?

02:42:29.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:42:30.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

02:42:31.000 I mean, the plane, it's too big, it's too... A 757 is so large, and there's so many people on it, and so many pieces to the plane, the engines, The engines alone, there's two of them, nine foot diameter at their maximum.

02:42:44.000 I mean, how do you lose this kind of material?

02:42:47.000 And these are bigger than cars, those engines.

02:42:49.000 Where are they?

02:42:51.000 Well, also, the hole in the pentagon is smaller than the fuselage, just the internal fuselage.

02:42:58.000 Where are the marks from the wings hitting the building?

02:43:01.000 And even the hole, we can't even see in those photos how deep it is, or if it's even a real hole.

02:43:05.000 It's so small.

02:43:07.000 It's even debatable as whether it even is more than... It's a black spot.

02:43:12.000 Yeah, I mean, it's even debatable.

02:43:13.000 Is that even an airplane hole?

02:43:15.000 So you go over that, you also get into Building 7, and... And then, yeah, the towers, and of course, what people really need to realize is this is a fight over who controls the news, who controls the information.

02:43:28.000 That's what's really important for people to realize, that this is an information war.

02:43:32.000 It's deception.

02:43:34.000 Deception is what's being used as the weapon nowadays.

02:43:37.000 Absolutely.

02:43:38.000 Let's talk to Brian.

02:43:40.000 Brian, where are you calling us from?

02:43:44.000 Colorado.

02:43:44.000 Good to talk to you.

02:43:45.000 Go ahead.

02:43:45.000 Good to talk to you.

02:43:46.000 Hey, great guest today.

02:43:48.000 Hey, I was wondering, was there a fire sprinkler system on the Twin Towers?

02:43:54.000 Yes, there were, and there was also supposed to be water tanks at the top of them, you know, for gravity purposes,

02:43:59.000 you know, in case there's a power shortage or something.

02:44:01.000 A lot of big buildings have water tanks at the top so that water can flow down even if there's no power.

02:44:07.000 And they're supposedly... What happened to them? That's a good question.

02:44:10.000 Were they empty? Were they turned off? Or were they... But of course...

02:44:15.000 Well, I've read the transcripts of what the firefighters, the stuff that got leaked out,

02:44:19.000 and then the feds had to admit, okay, the firefighter radios didn't all malfunction.

02:44:26.000 We've declared national security on this.

02:44:28.000 They reported the fires were almost out, right where the planes hit, that there was no problem.

02:44:34.000 That's why the firefighters were all rushing in.

02:44:36.000 They'd been in other building fires with fuel and stuff.

02:44:39.000 They knew!

02:44:40.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:44:41.000 Oh yeah, you're right.

02:44:42.000 That's why they had no fear of running into this building.

02:44:45.000 No fire has ever brought a steel building down.

02:44:48.000 They had nothing to worry about.

02:44:50.000 And what's burning inside there?

02:44:51.000 Just carpeting?

02:44:53.000 Office furniture?

02:44:54.000 It's not like it's made of wood.

02:44:55.000 It's got concrete on the floor.

02:44:57.000 It's got steel in the frame.

02:44:59.000 They had no reason to worry.

02:45:00.000 They get up there, they're walking around it.

02:45:02.000 Well, they've had 50-story buildings, hotels and stuff that catch on fire, burn for three days.

02:45:07.000 Right.

02:45:07.000 I mean, nothing happens.

02:45:09.000 Right.

02:45:10.000 The concrete and the steel contain it.

02:45:12.000 They might buckle a little and crack a little, but they don't do anything.

02:45:16.000 And then we find out a year later that they were walking around in the fire zone of the South Tower, according to their radio report.

02:45:24.000 But it would take 1800 degrees to melt steel.

02:45:26.000 Go ahead, Brian.

02:45:28.000 And the other thing is, you know, you think of the impact of the jet, if there was structural damage, that on that side of the building, either that side of the building would collapse, because there wasn't damage to the opposite side of the building to speak of.

02:45:44.000 So, you know, I'm just not buying the whole... Well, it would buckle, it would break in half, it would fall apart, it wouldn't just disintegrate into powder.

02:45:53.000 Right, that's all I had.

02:45:55.000 Absolutely.

02:45:56.000 You know, I've got hundreds of hours of video that Lister sent me.

02:45:59.000 I was recording on two VCRs, two separate channels, from like five minutes after the first plane hit.

02:46:04.000 My phone was ringing off the hook.

02:46:06.000 And folks, I want you to understand something.

02:46:08.000 Good question, Brian.

02:46:09.000 Good questions.

02:46:10.000 Good points.

02:46:12.000 I've sat there and reviewed all these tapes.

02:46:14.000 I could make five more 9-11 films.

02:46:16.000 I have footage of a CNN reporter standing down there when one of the buildings starts coming down, and she goes, explosions!

02:46:21.000 And you see, you know, this wall of smoke coming down the road.

02:46:26.000 I mean, everybody said explosions.

02:46:28.000 What about the seismographs, Eric?

02:46:30.000 Well, they show the whole building coming down in about 10 seconds.

02:46:35.000 They have a big spike, and then it decreases a little.

02:46:38.000 It's almost as if Again, you look at these seismic graphs, and this doesn't look like a building coming down either.

02:46:45.000 It's coming down, first of all, much, much too fast.

02:46:48.000 You know, these are 1,300-foot buildings.

02:46:51.000 There's 110 floors, and it's going down in 10 seconds?

02:46:55.000 That's averaging 10 floors per second.

02:46:58.000 And it actually is faster than that, because it started out slow and then speeded up.

02:47:02.000 So, you know, by the end, it's going faster than 10 floors per second.

02:47:06.000 Well, also, before they collapse, the second one it began, they hear all these explosions.

02:47:12.000 Up and down the building, there's little plumes shooting out that are identical to controlled demolitions in other cases.

02:47:18.000 I mean, folks, I had an engineer on the day it happened, a friend of mine who doesn't even believe in the New World Order, and he's an engineer, and he says, Alex, it was the most controlled demolitions I've ever seen in my life.

02:47:30.000 Well, yeah.

02:47:31.000 How else do you explain the pulverizing to dust?

02:47:34.000 Barbara, in Pennsylvania.

02:47:36.000 You're on the air.

02:47:37.000 Go ahead.

02:47:39.000 Eric?

02:47:40.000 Yes.

02:47:43.000 It's the Pentagon crash that I am most interested in.

02:47:48.000 So far, I've heard five different people get on radio programs and talk about it.

02:47:55.000 And I have asked the same question, and only one of these people partly answered my question, and I was wondering if you could.

02:48:04.000 On the 757 that was supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon, the manifest of passengers and flight crew, did you track any of the families down?

02:48:16.000 No.

02:48:19.000 A lot of these manifests, they're not even releasing the seating arrangements.

02:48:23.000 They're keeping some of this a secret.

02:48:25.000 There's no Arabs on these that they claim were hijackers.

02:48:29.000 By the way, I have an answer for it.

02:48:31.000 On the two flights, ma'am, I'll hold you over if you need me.

02:48:34.000 On the two towers that were hit, there were exactly 20% occupancy on both of those planes.

02:48:43.000 20% occupancy.

02:48:44.000 How does that happen?

02:48:45.000 Exactly 20% occupancy.

02:48:46.000 Go ahead.

02:48:48.000 Well, I'm wondering if the families of any of these supposedly dead people got any insurance policies?

02:49:04.000 Uh, got anything from the, uh, government, uh, any word or anything like that?

02:49:08.000 I'm wondering about that.

02:49:09.000 Yeah, we know, we know that they tell all the families, not just of the planes, but the buildings, if they'll sign a form waiving all liability and saying they'll shut up, they get some money.

02:49:20.000 Well... I'll tell you what, stay there, Barbara. 1.00

02:49:22.000 We'll come back to you in a second.

02:49:24.000 And then I'll get to this Saudi Arabia story.

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02:52:49.000 killed 50-plus people in black uniforms screaming, Shaddam! 0.81

02:52:55.000 The foreign press, including some of our press, went to the hospitals, looked hilarious.

02:53:00.000 All they saw was old women, old men, and children with their arms and legs blown off and bullet holes in them.

02:53:05.000 And the U.S.

02:53:07.000 military can show no photographs or no bodies of dead fighters.

02:53:11.000 And I got on air and I said, I don't know what the truth is about this.

02:53:14.000 I know we've been lied to a bunch in the past.

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02:53:20.000 But that's stuff I can prove.

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02:53:36.000 We can endlessly speculate on things that we can never prove.

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02:53:47.000 Why was the Deputy FBI Director who just resigned and said the government's going to allow attacks as a pretext to invade Afghanistan?

02:53:54.000 He told the foreign press that.

02:53:55.000 John O'Neill!

02:53:57.000 You know, why has there been an investigation of that?

02:53:59.000 There's thousands of these questions!

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02:54:03.000 Barbara, finish up your points here with Eric Huffschmid.

02:54:06.000 Well, my point was that, like I said, I've heard five different people get on talk shows and talk about the Pentagon crash.

02:54:16.000 And when I asked one of them this question, he managed to partly answer my question.

02:54:23.000 What is your question?

02:54:25.000 Have we contacted the victims of the flight that supposedly hit the Pentagon?

02:54:29.000 He said that one of the people that was supposed to have been Well, it's hard to figure out.

02:54:39.000 I mean, see, here again, how do you know who exactly was on the plane, who and where are they, if they're even alive?

02:54:44.000 been proven still alive the government said okay we were wrong it was other

02:54:47.000 people uh... eric comments well it's hard to figure out at me to

02:54:52.000 hear again how do you know

02:54:54.000 who exactly was on the plane who and where are they if they're even alive

02:54:57.000 some people have that that one government official his he said his wife

02:55:02.000 barbara olson was on that plane and she he says she's dead I mean, what are we supposed to do?

02:55:07.000 Call him up and say, are you telling us the truth?

02:55:09.000 I mean, we're not going to get it, even if he's lying.

02:55:12.000 And some of the people on other passenger planes, like the sons or their wives or husbands, some of them are talking.

02:55:19.000 Some are complaining.

02:55:20.000 Some are even filing lawsuits.

02:55:21.000 Yeah, I just read a letter to Bush from one of the victim's wives saying, Bush, I think you did it.

02:55:27.000 So, I mean, there's a look.

02:55:28.000 Stanley Hilton has 400 of the families in his lawsuit.

02:55:32.000 He's saying Bush ran the attacks.

02:55:35.000 Yeah, there are people contacting some of the family members.

02:55:37.000 I personally didn't, though.

02:55:39.000 Yeah, you just went over the scientific evidence that is inclusive in your film.

02:55:43.000 I hope that answers the question for you, Barbara.

02:55:46.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

02:55:47.000 We're out of time.

02:55:48.000 Eric Hofschmid, I want to get you back up in the future.

02:55:51.000 I appreciate your hard work.

02:55:53.000 I appreciate everything you've done.

02:55:55.000 And God bless you for your film and your book.

02:55:57.000 You've done a smashing job defending this republic, and I hope folks will get the video and the book and spread the word.

02:56:03.000 Well, let's hope so, because, like you say, it is an information war, and that is one of the tools we have.

02:56:08.000 Absolutely.

02:56:08.000 Thanks for the call, and take care, my friend.

02:56:10.000 Okay, bye.

02:56:11.000 A Saudi official blames foreigners for terror.

02:56:14.000 Prince Abdul-Rahman, by the way, they threatened the White House. 0.93

02:56:17.000 They said, if you don't stop saying we did it, we're going to release the names of the four banks that really own Saudi Arabia who are behind the terror.

02:56:24.000 And that's why they excised the 29 pages.

02:56:26.000 Prince Abdul Rahim, Saudi Arabia's Deputy Minister of Defense and Aviation, says foreign hands are behind the Riyadh bombings that left scores dead, implying the attacks were not the work of Osama Bin Laden or al-Qaeda network, but rather nations opposing the country's strict adherence to Islamic law.

02:56:44.000 ...and which want to impose foreign domination upon the kingdom.

02:56:47.000 He called on the armed forces to be ready to defend the country against foreign interference with all the force at their disposal.

02:56:53.000 According to Arab News Report, the prince said the kingdom would continue to apply the law and said foreign countries stood behind recent events in an apparent reference to the November 8th bombings in Riyadh, adding that it would be regrettable if it were proven that they were friends of the kingdom.

02:57:13.000 Threats to the bushes to back off.

02:57:15.000 Folks, this is coming to a head.

02:57:18.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:57:19.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

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