Alex Jones Show - 20031231_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 It's your family.

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00:00:32.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:34.000 It is the 31st day of December 2003, the last day of 2003.

00:00:37.000 We'll see you on the other side.

00:00:39.000 31st day of December 2003, the last day of 2003. We'll see you on the other side

00:00:48.000 start of 04. We have a bunch of guests coming up today.

00:00:54.000 We have a scientist, a doctor, coming on to talk about mad cow disease in about 30 minutes.

00:01:01.000 Then we have Frank Morales, an expert on the police state and the martial law control grid, going in publicly, now publicly admitted.

00:01:10.000 Then in the third hour, we have Colonel Craig Roberts and, of course, Jack McClam joining us, because I had him on last week.

00:01:17.000 We ran out of time and there was a lot of information we didn't have time to cover.

00:01:22.000 That's four of our guests.

00:01:24.000 We have another little surprise guest coming up as well.

00:01:28.000 A strong finish for the year 2003.

00:01:31.000 There is so much news today on top of the fact that I set up all these guests.

00:01:40.000 I've got to cover this news.

00:01:42.000 Richard Perl has put out a new PNAC style dossier, a book, His nickname is the Prince of Darkness at the Pentagon.

00:01:56.000 And he wants to go ahead and perhaps even attack France.

00:02:02.000 And he has a battle plan for total war.

00:02:04.000 The National Draft, all of it.

00:02:07.000 I have an article on this.

00:02:10.000 Also, we have a Mr. Sapphire coming out.

00:02:15.000 William Sapphire in the New York Times with his predictions And there are 16 of them.

00:02:23.000 Just one of them, 13, has four predictions.

00:02:28.000 One of them, the capture of Bin Laden in Yemen, the daring escape of Saddam, a major terror attack in the U.S., finding a buried bag of anthrax in Tikrit.

00:02:42.000 And he brags that, hey, I predicted a bunch of stuff last year.

00:02:46.000 Yeah, we know you can predict it.

00:02:48.000 It's like a bank robber predicting what bank's going to be robbed.

00:02:52.000 Okay? 1.00

00:02:53.000 It's like Hitler predicting that he's going to kill a bunch of Jews. 0.97

00:02:57.000 It's not very hard for you, is it, Mr. Well, you have the birthright, according to mainstream news and Congressman Ron Paul, of the Communist Fourth International. 0.95

00:03:10.000 But again, you call yourself a conservative when you publicly aren't admitted head of the Communist Fourth International.

00:03:17.000 I know that sounds insane.

00:03:18.000 It's mainstream news.

00:03:21.000 I couldn't believe it when I discovered it three years ago, and now it's been all over the news.

00:03:24.000 We'll get into that.

00:03:27.000 Richard Perle, chief neocon, one of his other chief neocons, William Sapphire, amazing statements, disgusting activities, big time.

00:03:38.000 So, that's coming up here on the show.

00:03:42.000 There's a lot of new terror alerts, and other terror alerts have turned out to be false as usual.

00:03:48.000 We'll get to that.

00:03:51.000 There is just so much here.

00:03:52.000 I have an article about illegal aerosol vaccines, and it says Maxigen, Our GN announces 6.5 million grant from DARPA to develop aerosol vaccines to spray from aircraft on you.

00:04:09.000 If they can't force you to take their poisons, they'll just spray them on you, and I admit that's what this is all for.

00:04:18.000 They're now saying that, ooh, Syria sold weapons to Saddam, so that invasion needs to begin.

00:04:24.000 A lot of key info.

00:04:29.000 Coming up here on the show today.

00:04:32.000 So you do not want to miss the broadcast when we get back.

00:04:36.000 I'll go straight into the news.

00:04:38.000 The New American's finally reporting about the stealth enactment of Patriot Act II.

00:04:43.000 U.S.

00:04:43.000 population rises to 292 plus million with an illegal alien coming into the country every 25 seconds, according to the Associated Press.

00:04:52.000 And Bush wants total amnesty to legalize anybody who can get their feet on our shores.

00:04:57.000 The USDA calls for implantable microchips in all farm animals.

00:05:01.000 We told you that was coming.

00:05:04.000 It's all coming up.

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00:08:38.000 Before I dive into all the news and our four guests that we have coming up today

00:08:53.000 this final broadcast of 2003 for yours truly

00:09:00.000 I was talking to one of my friends who I've known for several years who works in a mid-level management capacity for one of the major airlines here in Austin, Texas.

00:09:12.000 And he said that he sat there for an hour watching local News 8.

00:09:20.000 And by the way, News 8 is Time Warner Cable.

00:09:23.000 That's what they have.

00:09:23.000 It's a local Time Warner 24-hour news channel.

00:09:26.000 That's what they have on in the airport here in Austin at the Bergstrom International Airport.

00:09:33.000 He sat there and watched a reporter with a cameraman for an hour interview over 40 people.

00:09:41.000 They sat there counting them.

00:09:44.000 Every person was against the heightened security, against being harassed, against taking their shoes off, having some illegal alien reach in their bags.

00:09:56.000 And by the way, the majority of people in the airports are not even citizens and that's been in the news.

00:10:01.000 And there was finally one old lady after 40 plus people who said, I love it, I think it's great.

00:10:07.000 Then they turned on the news a few hours later and there she was all weekend long Through the holiday, saying, I love the added security.

00:10:18.000 I think it's great.

00:10:19.000 And they said on the news that everybody loves it.

00:10:23.000 Now is that not an example of the crafting, the twisting of public perception?

00:10:30.000 80 plus percent of the American people, including Hispanics, are against the open borders and all these illegals. 0.99

00:10:37.000 But Bush comes out and says, I'm going to legalize anybody that can get here because I want votes.

00:10:42.000 They said that.

00:10:43.000 Oh, it's politically positive in the Washington Post with Bush's advisor's quotes in there.

00:10:51.000 The vast majority of us want the borders shut, illegals expelled, but the government says, oh no, you want it open! 0.59

00:11:01.000 And it's like this across the board.

00:11:05.000 So, think about that long and hard, folks.

00:11:11.000 Think about that long and hard.

00:11:14.000 That I have a friend who works at the airport and he watches 40 plus people get interviewed who are all against the phony baloney security in the police state making comments along those lines and then they get one old lady who loves it and she's on the news over and over again for three days.

00:11:38.000 She was the first person who agreed with it, the last person, because they had to go through 40 plus people until they found her, and as soon as she was done, they shut the camera off and left the airport.

00:11:51.000 And it's going on all over the country.

00:11:55.000 That's the type of propaganda and news crafting locally.

00:12:00.000 It's even worse nationally.

00:12:07.000 It's clear that they were sent out there to find someone who agreed with it and thought it was great to put a positive light on it.

00:12:22.000 So that's deception by selective reporting.

00:12:27.000 Alright, coming up today we have a doctor, professor, who is against the Way the Food and Drug Administration handles downer cows.

00:12:41.000 We'll talk about mad cow disease for about 15 minutes.

00:12:44.000 That's coming up here in about 15-20 minutes.

00:12:48.000 Then we've got Frank Morales, police state expert, about the public announcements of the martial law system we're going into that he's been warning people about for years.

00:12:58.000 Then we have Colonel Craig Roberts and Jack McClam coming on the third hour because we ran out of time with them last week.

00:13:05.000 And we're going to have open phones, of course.

00:13:07.000 The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231 and the website is www.infowars.com.

00:13:24.000 Let's jump right into the news.

00:13:27.000 U.S.

00:13:27.000 has new concerns about anthrax readiness.

00:13:30.000 And they go into how Al-Qaeda is about to attack us with anthrax any minute.

00:13:34.000 Why was Bush on Cipro, the anthrax-fighting antibiotic, on September 10th with his cabinet?

00:13:40.000 That's admitted.

00:13:41.000 And then it turns out it's the most weaponized anthrax ever seen.

00:13:44.000 U.S.

00:13:45.000 patented, coded in bentonite.

00:13:49.000 And that story has just left the headlines.

00:13:52.000 Then we have an article here.

00:13:55.000 By a Maxigen announcement by the company, a $6.7 million grant from DARPA to develop aerosolized vaccines.

00:14:06.000 Redwood City, California.

00:14:09.000 Maxigen announced today that it has received a $6.7 million three-year grant from the Defense Advanced Research Agency, or DARPA, to use its proprietary molecular breeding Directed Evolution Technology, also known as DNA Shuffling, to develop aerosol-based vaccines to protect against a broad spectrum of pathogens.

00:14:34.000 They've also been given a $7.7 million fund from DARPA in the past, along with another $5.6 million DARPA funding years ago.

00:14:46.000 So, it's a long-term program.

00:14:50.000 And it is studying the genomes and creating all of this.

00:14:53.000 That really should concern you.

00:15:00.000 DARPA's the folks that had the betting scheme, betting, betting on How many troops would die or where we'll have terror attacks where you could go bet on the stock.

00:15:14.000 Of course, then those with inside knowledge could reap huge insider trading benefits.

00:15:18.000 Oh, like the CIA did on 9-11 that no one wants to talk about.

00:15:21.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:22.000 The same folks that have the Total Information Awareness Network under new names like Matrix.

00:15:28.000 They are funding folks for the aerosolized sprays, which they already have, folks.

00:15:34.000 Congressman urges avoiding Times Square.

00:15:38.000 Concerned about terrorism, Representative Christopher Shays urged revelers not to attend New Year's Eve celebrations like the one at Times Square this year.

00:15:48.000 New York's mayor countered that Shays could use an infusion of courage.

00:15:53.000 Well, I don't want to be shoved around by people in black ski masks. 0.99

00:15:56.000 So I'm not going to go anywhere.

00:15:58.000 A member of the House Select Committee on Homeland Security and Chairman of the Terrorism Subcommittee, the Connecticut Republican told WVIT-TV on Tuesday that he wouldn't go to Times Square for anything.

00:16:10.000 New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said nobody should stay home because of the nation's hyphen terror alert and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge of the nation's security was unprecedented.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, there's a CNN photo out of one of the black Blackhawk helicopters with a guy in a black ski mask, black helmet, pointing an automatic machine gun mounted out the door over the Statue of Liberty.

00:16:35.000 Has nothing to do with stopping terrorists.

00:16:37.000 It's training you, cameras, police, riot gear, machine guns, helicopters, drones, surveillance blimps.

00:16:46.000 Like something out of a police state science fiction movie, The Running Man.

00:16:51.000 With Mad Dog Ben Richards up there.

00:16:54.000 And then there's these chilling statements here by William Sapphire, whose father was publicly the head of the 4th Communist International, the heir to Trotsky, And this is Ron Paul, this is the, uh, major newspapers admitting, quote, the ghost of Trotsky walks the halls of the White House.

00:17:13.000 They believe in command and control.

00:17:15.000 And he makes his predictions, uh, to, uh, what's gonna happen, the next tyranny to feel the force of the U.S.

00:17:21.000 liberation, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Venezuela.

00:17:26.000 Oh, Venezuela needs to be invaded.

00:17:28.000 Uh, and, um, Iraq will split up like gold. 0.92

00:17:33.000 Ah, you're Caesar.

00:17:34.000 You know, most people won't know that.

00:17:36.000 Into three parts.

00:17:37.000 Defeat the insurgents that emerge.

00:17:39.000 A rudimentary democracy.

00:17:43.000 And then he says, succumb to a Sunni coup. 0.72

00:17:47.000 You ought to read this New York Times predictions by Sapphire.

00:17:50.000 It's got the inside travel.

00:17:51.000 They predicted lots of stuff.

00:17:53.000 And down here, number 13 is the most chilling prediction.

00:17:57.000 Set of predictions.

00:17:59.000 The October surprise affecting our election will be the capture of Bin Laden in Yemen.

00:18:05.000 And now they're all starting to say that.

00:18:07.000 The daring escape of Saddam, a major terror attack in the U.S., finding a buried bag of anthrax in Tikrit.

00:18:18.000 And, uh, it says debating Cheney on TV will be Democratic running mate Wesley Clark, Bob Graham, Bill Richardson, Dianne Feinstein, John Edwards, R-11, whatever that means.

00:18:30.000 The next Secretary of State will be Richard Holbrook, Paul Bremer, Donald Rumsfeld, John Kerry.

00:18:35.000 And it says, uh, Israel, staunchly supported during the U.S.

00:18:39.000 election year, will build its security barrier, including an aerial, uh, salient in the Jordan Valley.

00:18:46.000 And, uh, undermine Arafat will be negotiating territory with Syria after Assad squads, uh, quiet Hezbollah in occupied Lebanon.

00:18:55.000 It goes on and on, folks.

00:18:58.000 Really bizarre stuff.

00:19:00.000 And then we've got, uh, Richard Perle's new book.

00:19:03.000 Another chief neocon.

00:19:06.000 And Hawks tell Bush how to win war on terror. 0.75

00:19:10.000 France may need to be attacked.

00:19:12.000 They may be an enemy. 0.59

00:19:15.000 Okay.

00:19:17.000 Alrighty then.

00:19:18.000 So, World War III on this front.

00:19:21.000 We'll cover that when we get back.

00:19:23.000 Both Korea fears surprise attack.

00:19:25.000 Syria sold weapons to Saddam.

00:19:27.000 Now they've got their pretext.

00:19:28.000 Stealth implementation of Patriot Act 2.

00:19:31.000 The John Birchers are now reporting on this.

00:19:33.000 U.S.

00:19:33.000 population rises to 292 plus mil.

00:19:37.000 USDA calls for implanted chips to prevent mad cow outbreaks.

00:19:40.000 Supreme Court takes another look at prison labor or new economy.

00:19:45.000 Russian Secret Service seizes copies of book linking it to 99 bombings.

00:19:52.000 Oh! 0.60

00:19:54.000 Seizing books that expose Putin for carrying out bombings to get control.

00:19:58.000 Ex-general to oversee Guantanamo trials, if you can call them that.

00:20:02.000 False TNT alarm hits airport.

00:20:05.000 It's all coming up.

00:20:06.000 Gigantic final year show.

00:20:09.000 We'll be back.

00:20:09.000 Final day of the year.

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00:20:39.000 It's bad enough that the U.S.

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00:24:33.000 Wow!

00:24:35.000 2003 almost over.

00:24:38.000 About to be eclipsed by 04, which we start tomorrow.

00:24:45.000 And boys, it's been quite a year.

00:24:46.000 One of the worst years in U.S.

00:24:47.000 history for freedom and liberty and our families and our sovereignty and the borders and trade deals destroying our economic base.

00:24:56.000 But at the same time, a lot of people are waking up to the cold, hard facts of the New World Order.

00:25:03.000 But in the new year, William Shafir says they're going to find the anthrax and pin it on Iraq.

00:25:08.000 They're going to capture Bin Laden.

00:25:12.000 What a nice little neocon.

00:25:14.000 Here's another chief neocon.

00:25:16.000 Hawks tell Bush how to win war on terror.

00:25:20.000 President George W. Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday by Washington's Hawks, just like PENAC did, written by the same people, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea.

00:25:39.000 Backed by planning for a preemptive strike on its nuclear sites.

00:25:43.000 The manifesto, presented as a manual for victory is what it's called, or the title, is the war on terror also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as rivals and possibly enemies.

00:25:59.000 The manifesto ...is contained in a new book by Richard Perle, a Pentagon advisor and intellectual guru of the hardline neoconservative movement, which believes in taxation, regulation, gun control, open borders, out-Clinton and Clinton.

00:26:16.000 And debuted from a former Bush speechwriter, they give warning of a faltering of will to win in Washington.

00:26:26.000 To win, that means destroying your freedom.

00:26:29.000 In the Bible for the Presidencier, the manifesto represents an attempt by hawks to break out of the post-Iraq doldrums and strike back at what they see as a campaign of hostile leaking by their foes in such centers of caution as the State Department or in the military top brass.

00:26:48.000 That's totally staged.

00:26:49.000 The military top brass are all CFR.

00:26:53.000 The State Department plays the left-leaning side of the false paradigm, the kinder, gentler New World Order.

00:27:02.000 Got Colin Powell in there, folks.

00:27:04.000 Their publication, An End to Evil, oh, How to Win the War on Terror, coincided with the latest broadside from the Hawks' enemy number one, Colin Powell, the Secretary of State.

00:27:16.000 Oh yeah, he's enemy number one.

00:27:18.000 Give me a break.

00:27:20.000 Though on leave, recovering from a prostate cancer operation, Mr. Powell summoned reporters to his bedside to hail encouraging signs of new attitude in Iran and a call for the United States to keep open the prospect of dialogue with the Tehran authorities.

00:27:35.000 Now, what did he do with Iraq?

00:27:36.000 He said, it's not good, we shouldn't attack them.

00:27:39.000 And then he goes before the UN and says, I was wrong, we've got to attack.

00:27:42.000 Everybody goes, even the dove is for it now.

00:27:47.000 He has the secret weapons dossier just released by MI6 he held up.

00:27:52.000 Yeah, a fake document written 12 years ago by a graduate student.

00:27:59.000 Such talk is anathema to hawks like Mr. Pearl and Mr. Fromm who urge Washington to shun the mullahs and work for their overthrow in concert with Iranian dissidents.

00:28:12.000 So again, for the history books, they're already preparing to blame it on Rumsfeld and Perl and Crystal and the rest of them, when it's the military-industrial complex and the big banks that are behind it from the beginning.

00:28:25.000 I mean, you've got Brzezinski, the founder of the Trilateral Commission, writing in 1997 the exact words that are in PENAC documents.

00:28:33.000 It's all the same thing.

00:28:34.000 He's a Democrat!

00:28:36.000 We've got all these Democrats, Hillary Clinton calling to attack all these people. 0.99

00:28:41.000 There's no difference.

00:28:44.000 It's absolutely amazing.

00:28:48.000 We're going to break here in a minute or so, and when we get back, we've got a guest coming on.

00:28:52.000 Again, one of four guests that are going to be on the show.

00:28:57.000 We'll be talking about mad cow disease and the police state with Frank Morales, Colonel Craig Roberts, Jack McClain, and others in the second and third hour, and of course, your calls.

00:29:07.000 And there's so much other news.

00:29:09.000 They're now saying Syria sold weapons to Saddam.

00:29:12.000 They need to be invaded.

00:29:14.000 They've got the draft.

00:29:16.000 More information on the draft now coming out.

00:29:18.000 They want to put chips on all farm animals and federally control and regulate.

00:29:22.000 Which is absolutely not needed.

00:29:25.000 You need to ban feeding dead meat to cows.

00:29:28.000 Rotten meat to cows.

00:29:30.000 That would fix the problem.

00:29:32.000 That's coming up as well and just a stack of other vitally important news.

00:29:38.000 But as you watch the television broadcast, just look at all the ski masks, all the black helmets, all the machine guns in your cities, the troops, selling you tyranny.

00:29:48.000 Selling you something that looks like East Germany.

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00:33:16.000 Alright my friends, it is the 31st of December 2003, final show of the year.

00:33:38.000 We do have Frank Morales, police state expert, coming on the next hour.

00:33:42.000 Then in the third hour, Jack McClam, police against the New World Order, and Colonel Craig Roberts.

00:33:48.000 You don't want to miss this show, and we'll open the phones up in the next hour.

00:33:52.000 In fact, we'll open them up right now on Mad Cow Disease if you want to get involved on air.

00:33:56.000 It's 1-800-259-9231.

00:34:02.000 Dr. Michael Greger, MD, is the chief BSE investigator for Farm Sanctuary and

00:34:10.000 Mad Cow coordinator for the Organic Consumers Association.

00:34:13.000 Dr. Greger has been speaking publicly about mad cow disease since 1993.

00:34:18.000 He has debated the National Cattlemen's Beef Association before the FDA and was invited as an expert witness on the Oprah Winfrey infamous meat uh... defamation trial he has contributed to many books and articles on the subject continues to lecture extensively and uh... currently runs the top rated mad cow disease website and uh... that's organic consumers dot org forward slash mad cow dot htm dr greger is a graduate of the cornell university school of agriculture and the tufts university school of medicine and uh... he's written article usda misleading american public about beef safety

00:34:57.000 And I've read a lot of his warnings over the last five years.

00:35:00.000 They've been very accurate.

00:35:02.000 So we've got Dr. Michael Greger on the show to give us the real skinning on what's going on with BSC and how that affects the food supply and the economy.

00:35:15.000 Dr. Greger, thanks for coming on.

00:35:17.000 Good morning.

00:35:17.000 Thanks for having me.

00:35:18.000 You bet.

00:35:22.000 I've seen other stories of Mad Cow in the country.

00:35:25.000 Then they say, oh false alarm.

00:35:27.000 We know all these new deaths in Creutzfeldt-Jacobs.

00:35:29.000 A lot of that they say isn't connected to meat.

00:35:34.000 But why is it then going up?

00:35:37.000 Exploding in its numbers from very rare to now still being rare but a lot more common in the numbers.

00:35:44.000 What's really going on?

00:35:46.000 Well, unfortunately, a lot of these human spongiform encephalopathies or human sponge-like brain diseases caused by these prions are misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's disease.

00:35:57.000 Alzheimer's disease is now the eighth leading cause of death according to the Centers for Disease Control.

00:36:03.000 In many of these cases, a significant minority may indeed be Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

00:36:11.000 And Alzheimer's, I mean, there's people who are 30 years old getting Alzheimer's now.

00:36:16.000 Well, unfortunately, we've had a number of cases.

00:36:19.000 Literally in the last five years, the cases of young people, people under 30, dying of these Alzheimer's-like diseases has quintupled.

00:36:28.000 And that's really a concern compared to what we've seen over the last 20 years.

00:36:32.000 Now, it's possible we're just looking harder for the disease.

00:36:34.000 Now that we're worried about it, it's also possible that it's going through the roof.

00:36:39.000 And we wouldn't know because there isn't mandatory reporting by the CDC.

00:36:44.000 So unfortunately, we're not seeing, we don't, you know, a doctor has it somewhere, a person dies, gets buried, and no one knows about it.

00:36:52.000 So we haven't been testing the cattle, we haven't been testing the feed, we haven't been testing the people.

00:37:00.000 Well, you've been warning people for years.

00:37:03.000 Doctor, from your studies, do you think this is really the first case of a mad cow herd?

00:37:07.000 I mean, now it's over 80 animals, they're saying, running around with this, or who may have been butchered.

00:37:14.000 I've been talking about this since 1993, and we've been warning about this for over a decade now.

00:37:21.000 It's not that this is the first mad cow case in the United States. 0.51

00:37:24.000 It's the first mad cow case that we have found.

00:37:28.000 Obviously, finding a case is a function of how hard one looks for a case.

00:37:33.000 And unfortunately, we've had a grossly inadequate surveillance testing system here.

00:37:38.000 Basically, over the last 10 years, tested only about 57,000 animals out of the Hundreds of millions that we've slaughtered during this period.

00:37:47.000 In Europe, they test as many cows as we do, you know, every week they test as many as we've done in our entire history.

00:37:55.000 In Japan, they test every single cow for the disease.

00:37:57.000 In Europe, they test one out of every four.

00:38:00.000 We're doing about one out of every 2,000.

00:38:01.000 We don't know, we won't know the extent of this crisis until we start doing universal testing.

00:38:09.000 Now, down here in Texas, most of the cows are raised open range.

00:38:14.000 You want to do that because you don't have to pay for the feed.

00:38:16.000 There's plenty of acres per animal, but in a lot of areas of the country, they have these feedlots and they're still putting in the bone meal, the blood products.

00:38:28.000 How widespread is this?

00:38:30.000 It's a very widespread practice, unfortunately, and it was not banned back in 1997.

00:38:33.000 All that back in 1997 Was regulations that require the labeling of ruminants.

00:38:43.000 Cow and sheep, meat and bone meal, do not feed to cows or other ruminants.

00:38:46.000 There's a number of problems with that.

00:38:48.000 First of all, you can still produce this stuff.

00:38:50.000 You can still make it.

00:38:51.000 It's still on the feed store shelves.

00:38:52.000 Any farmer can walk into any feed store and still buy it.

00:38:55.000 No one asks them, wait a second, are you just feeding this to pigs and chickens?

00:39:00.000 You're feeding this to cows too.

00:39:02.000 If it's being sold, And it's cheaper, unfortunately.

00:39:06.000 Many farmers are going to buy and feed it to their cattle.

00:39:08.000 That's what we saw over in Europe.

00:39:09.000 I'm afraid some cattle producers here are cutting the same corners.

00:39:13.000 So there's a concern, certainly.

00:39:15.000 Also, other loopholes include this bone meal, this blood meal, excuse me, going directly to calves in this country as milk replacer.

00:39:28.000 The calves are getting this kind of spray dried blood protein.

00:39:33.000 From cows, and again there we have this cattle tissues being fed to young calves.

00:39:38.000 There's that cow-to-cow feeding, that cannibalism cycle that the prions love so much. 1.00

00:39:43.000 Well, think about this.

00:39:45.000 Instead of giving them milk or a milk substitute that's based in what we would think of as just a protein, now they're going to give them blood, turning them into cannibalistic vampires.

00:39:57.000 It's, I mean, and you know, and the Spray Dried Blood Producers Association actually has a website and boasts how much cheaper it is to feed calves blood rather than feed calves milk.

00:40:07.000 Also, I've read that the sanguination or the sucking the blood out of the cows is really done as they just crush them down.

00:40:13.000 There's all kinds of other tissues and juices out of the spinal cord and brain that go into this.

00:40:19.000 The exact things that we don't want in the food supply.

00:40:22.000 Well, we're really concerned about when you, you know, stun the animal unconscious with this devastating blow to the head with these captive bolt starters.

00:40:30.000 Unfortunately, we're going to splash some of the brain into the circulatory system. 0.97

00:40:34.000 And so when you bleed the cow out and slice her throat into the blood trough, not only are you getting the blood, which we know now is infectious already, but we're getting pieces of brain.

00:40:46.000 And that's certainly particularly concerning because those are the most infectious parts of the animal.

00:40:53.000 And again, there's a lot lower standards by light years for what goes into animal feeds compared to what goes into the human food supply.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, up until yesterday, I mean, it was illegal to feed cow spinal cord to cows, but it was still legal to feed it to people in a hot dog.

00:41:11.000 Thankfully, some of these risky tissues are now being taken out of the human food supply, but where are they going?

00:41:17.000 Now they're going to continue to go into animal feed, and we're going to continue to risk the health of our livestock herd and the health of the American public.

00:41:26.000 Now, you and Oprah, and I appreciate her making that stand so many years ago, had them come after you, then they had to back off.

00:41:34.000 I mean, you've certainly been vindicated here in spades.

00:41:39.000 You know, we didn't want to be right, certainly.

00:41:43.000 But, you know, with the kind of, with the inadequate testing, the continuing of feeding slaughterhouse waste, blood, and meal to calves, and with the downer cow problem, it was just a matter of time.

00:41:56.000 Understand, my family makes its living in East Texas, pays the taxes, you know, pays for the children's college, everything, with the beef Profits.

00:42:10.000 And we've been ranching since 1830 in East Texas.

00:42:16.000 I have been wanting to expose the Mad Cow before it got to be a gigantic cover-up and where all confidence was lost.

00:42:23.000 Because I know most of the ranches are doing it right, not doing this.

00:42:29.000 And I know my family is, because I've been out there many times feeding them on the summers where I worked on the ranch.

00:42:35.000 But it makes me very angry that early on they said, oh, you're just against our industry, covered this up, and now have made it worse, because it's going to hurt a lot of farming and ranching families now.

00:42:47.000 I get calls from producers all the time, and I say, look, go out in the barn and read the ingredients on your milk replacer.

00:42:52.000 These dairy farmers come back, and they had no idea.

00:42:55.000 I mean, they're outraged.

00:42:58.000 And I think The National Cattlemen's Beef Association is really doing producers a disservice.

00:43:03.000 They've been fighting tooth and nail against all these regulations.

00:43:07.000 They fought against the feed ban regulations in 1997.

00:43:10.000 They fought against trying to have restrictions on downer cows going into the human food supply.

00:43:16.000 They continue to be against increased testing.

00:43:18.000 And so while that makes sense in terms of short-term profit, I mean it's a few more pennies if we're only going to feed them cow or soybean protein supplements.

00:43:27.000 Or, you know, if we're going to add tests on to each animal.

00:43:30.000 So it's a few more pennies per pound of beef.

00:43:32.000 So it makes sense in the real short-term profits.

00:43:35.000 But in the long-term, the industry just lost $3 billion for the exports.

00:43:39.000 Well, Dr. Greger, I have been watching some of the local and national news, and it's everybody's still eating beef.

00:43:45.000 Everybody loves it.

00:43:46.000 Nobody's worried.

00:43:48.000 But then I talked to all my middle-class neighbors.

00:43:51.000 My wife isn't buying beef now. 1.00

00:43:53.000 I talked to everybody.

00:43:54.000 They're not buying it.

00:43:56.000 But they're telling me everybody still loves it.

00:43:58.000 I think that's propaganda.

00:44:00.000 Well, I mean, you can understand how, I mean, that has to be the railing cry.

00:44:04.000 There's no problem.

00:44:05.000 Everyone still loves it.

00:44:07.000 And, you know, and so they get the quote from the local restauranteur who's saying that, you know, the line for their steakhouse still goes around the corner.

00:44:16.000 A number of people are really, you know, are being cautious.

00:44:20.000 I think reasonably cautious about this.

00:44:22.000 They're saying, look, it could be a low risk, but why take any risk?

00:44:26.000 Right?

00:44:26.000 I mean, you can simply choose something else for your dinner plate.

00:44:29.000 And until we know more, I think that's a reasonable assumption to take.

00:44:34.000 Doctor, from your decade of study on this, and as a medical doctor looking at this and trained in this, When they say whole meats are perfectly safe, that is a steak, a brisket, is that accurate?

00:44:49.000 Well, unfortunately, it's not.

00:44:50.000 It's misleading for a number of reasons.

00:44:52.000 First of all, we know that the muscle meat itself, the skeletal muscle itself, may be infectious.

00:44:58.000 Now, not as infectious as brain and spinal cord, but the USDA and the Cattleman Trade Group has been trying to make it sound like the skeletal meat is completely safe, and unfortunately, That was really up until two years ago, that's what we thought.

00:45:14.000 But then Stanley Prusiner's lab out in San Francisco, the guy who won the Nobel Prize for discovering the cause of mad cows, he's found that indeed, at least in the experimental animals, these prions, these deadly prions, could build up in muscle tissue.

00:45:28.000 Follow-up studies in Germany substantiated the fact.

00:45:31.000 And then just last month, in the New England Journal of Medicine, we have this autopsy study coming out of Switzerland.

00:45:38.000 They found that, you know, about a quarter of human, quite celiac disease victims, had these prions in their muscle samples when they got them on autopsy.

00:45:49.000 So we know it can be in skeletal muscle, and so by saying that these boneless cuts of steak are okay, it's certainly lower risk than eating scrambled beef brains, but it's not zero risk.

00:46:03.000 Unbelievable, and I'm a big beef eater, folks, and my family makes their living.

00:46:10.000 My father's family.

00:46:11.000 This is just horrible news.

00:46:13.000 There was no reason to do this.

00:46:15.000 This is the problem with lowering standards.

00:46:17.000 If nobody fed meat products to cows that aren't supposed to eat meat to begin with, much less rotten meat, If they weren't supposed to do this in the first place, then across the board you'd have higher quality meats, safe meats, and bigger profits.

00:46:31.000 But when you allow them to lower the standards, that ends up hurting everybody and only helps the big corporate farms.

00:46:38.000 It's just bad all the way around.

00:46:41.000 And now we're going to get more regulation that will squash the small farmers and ranchers. 0.58

00:46:45.000 Big agribusiness will pay off the inspectors.

00:46:48.000 They're going to keep doing this. 0.96

00:46:49.000 It's disgusting.

00:46:50.000 And Man County never would have started in the first place back in 1985 if it wasn't for kind of mucking with Mother Nature.

00:46:58.000 You know, cows are herbivores. 0.99

00:47:00.000 That's how they should be fed.

00:47:01.000 And instead, not only have we made them into meat eaters, but cannibals as well. 0.68

00:47:05.000 Well, now we can just breed cows with these cloned cows that can eat meat. 0.55

00:47:08.000 Have you heard about that?

00:47:09.000 They want to have a cloned herd now so we can feed them this rotten stuff. 1.00

00:47:14.000 Right.

00:47:14.000 That's been the answer.

00:47:15.000 Okay, well maybe we can Genetically engineer some cow that's somehow resistant or invulnerable to mad cow disease and where the simplest answer, instead of spending a million dollars down that route, the simplest answer is to just make these real common sense

00:47:33.000 Concrete practical precautions like not feeding the poultry litter, not feeding the blood product.

00:47:39.000 This is far worse than that book about falling into the hot dog maker in the book The Jungle at the turn of the century in the Rockefeller factories.

00:47:49.000 This is far worse than having a rat dropping in your hot dog.

00:47:53.000 That generally won't rot your brain out.

00:47:57.000 Right, see, no matter, before prion diseases, before this mad cow disease, no matter how filthy the meat was, if you cook the meat through, you're going to kill off all the bacteria, you're going to kill off the viruses, you're going to kill off, I don't care if there's manure in there, E. coli, rats, you name it, it's safe.

00:48:14.000 It may be kind of gross, but the meat is safe.

00:48:17.000 Until all along we got this new pathogen coming along, and you can't kill it.

00:48:21.000 You can't cook it out.

00:48:23.000 Nothing you can do to this thing.

00:48:24.000 It's practically invulnerable because there's a lot of bacteria. 0.51

00:48:27.000 Let's take one call, Dr. Pete in California.

00:48:30.000 You're on the air.

00:48:30.000 Go ahead.

00:48:31.000 Yeah, well you might be interested in this.

00:48:33.000 I don't know if the doctors ever heard of an African disease called Kuru.

00:48:37.000 K-U-R-U. 1.00

00:48:39.000 I saw a documentary on discovery on one of these channels about in the 50s.

00:48:44.000 They were studying uh... tried that practice post-mortem cannibalism to you

00:48:50.000 know bring all the same thing out of new guinea yes i go ahead doctor

00:48:54.000 yet no problem again a bright and we had and and what we've learned from that

00:48:58.000 is that we still have a few people dying from this disease

00:49:03.000 fifty years after cannibalism was was declared illegal

00:49:07.000 So these older people, as kids, ate the brains of their dead, and now, that many decades later, are dying from the disease.

00:49:16.000 That's the scary thing about mad cow disease.

00:49:18.000 It's not what you ate yesterday, or what you ate last week, it's what you ate years and years ago that can put people at risk.

00:49:24.000 Is there any way to detox or slough this out, or if you've got it in you, you're in deep trouble?

00:49:30.000 Well, we don't know what the infectious dose is.

00:49:32.000 We're hoping that if you get a small enough hit of this stuff, there's not going to be enough prions to build up so that your incubation period could be 70 years, 80 years, and I don't care if I get mad cowed 80 years from now.

00:49:43.000 I don't think I'm going to be around.

00:49:45.000 The bigger dose you get, the more brain, infectious brain, that's in your burger, the sooner you're going to get it.

00:49:52.000 So it may be 10 years and not 30 years.

00:49:54.000 Okay, Pete, thanks for the call.

00:49:56.000 Carson in Colorado, go ahead.

00:50:00.000 Yeah, Alex, another large beef consumer to y'all.

00:50:05.000 I grew up around the ag business in northern Colorado, and it has to do with just common sense practices.

00:50:12.000 I agree with your analysis, but I think this is not done accidentally.

00:50:19.000 This is designed to destroy the remnants of the small farmer and rancher, and the American citizen can protect himself by Insisting on buying organic, locally processed and slaughtered beef products.

00:50:35.000 Well that's what we do now and you just go out to a rancher you know and you say I want that cow slaughtered and you end up saving money.

00:50:43.000 And that rancher will get more money. 0.94

00:50:45.000 Do you have any comments on that, Doctor?

00:50:47.000 The organic standards put forth by the USDA absolutely exclude the feeding of all these rendered by-products to cattle.

00:50:54.000 So... Doctor, stay there.

00:50:56.000 Pete, thanks for the call.

00:50:58.000 And Carson, stay there.

00:51:00.000 Doctor, we're going to come right back and take a couple more calls here in the final segment with you.

00:51:04.000 So stay there, Carson.

00:51:05.000 We'll come back to you.

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00:56:06.000 uh... behavior as history repeats itself We're talking to Michael Greger, a doctor, MD, and the website is organicconsumers.org forward slash madcow.htm.

00:56:19.000 Going back to Carson in Colorado.

00:56:21.000 Carson, finish up your comments or questions for the doctor.

00:56:25.000 Final comment, Alex.

00:56:27.000 God bless you, your courageous guest.

00:56:30.000 Dr. Greger, it's truly an honor for me to be able to hear your words on the radio.

00:56:35.000 I have followed your work in the past.

00:56:38.000 Alex, yesterday I went down to my coffee center and I enlarged the cover of Harris' Farm Almanac, and I plastered it all over my pickup truck, because apparently we're told now that that is What terrorist sympathizers are interested in, maps and rural roadways and the farmers' almanac.

00:57:02.000 I also, you know, wish you and all of your guests and all your fine listeners the finest and most vigorously defended New Year for our liberty and our nation.

00:57:14.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

00:57:16.000 Dr. Greger, any comments to what our guest was talking about?

00:57:20.000 No, I think eating organic is really the way to go.

00:57:24.000 I mean, really the safest beef on the market right now is organic beef.

00:57:29.000 Let's take another call.

00:57:31.000 Let's talk to David in Michigan.

00:57:32.000 David, you're on the air with our guest.

00:57:34.000 Hey, Happy New Year, Alex.

00:57:35.000 Okay, thank you.

00:57:36.000 I like that one bump you play from the man with two brains.

00:57:40.000 You know, they go on and on about the beef in this deal.

00:57:46.000 What about the lamb?

00:57:47.000 I mean, that's what the English beef gutter from was eating lamb spinal cords. 1.00

00:57:52.000 And everywhere you go in a big city, they got a Giro stand on just about every corner.

00:57:58.000 Yeah, no, this is, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's not really fair to kind of point this all at the beef industry.

00:58:06.000 We have some data coming out of France back in 2001 that indeed lamb chops may be causing

00:58:13.000 some of these sporadic CJD cases that people are dying from so tragically here in the United

00:58:18.000 States.

00:58:19.000 We do also have some epidemiological data basically where you take people who have died

00:58:24.000 from this disease, ask their families what they've been eating compared to people that

00:58:27.000 haven't died from this disease, and it seems that consumption of pork brains is also a

00:58:31.000 concern as well.

00:58:32.000 So this really shouldn't be thrown all at the beef industry, so we have to clean up

00:58:37.000 our entire system.

00:58:38.000 We've got to stop feeding slaughterhouse waste, not just to cows, but to pigs and poultry as well.

00:58:43.000 Well, that's it.

00:58:43.000 I'm just not going to eat anything unless it's organic.

00:58:46.000 Thank you, Dr. Greger, for coming on the show, and thanks to all the callers.

00:58:50.000 And have a good New Year, sir.

00:58:53.000 New Year to you.

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01:00:29.000 In 60 minutes, folks, we're going to have Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order.

01:00:37.000 And of course, Colonel Craig Roberts, who both stand against the police state and the takeover of our society.

01:00:43.000 I chose to end the year with a discussion of Mad Cow in the last hour and PNAC and their latest militarism ideas to take over the world and now wanting to make France an enemy.

01:00:54.000 Mad Cow, the police state, this is the basic New World Order takeover that is unprecedented in front of us.

01:00:59.000 In this show we're going to have An amazing individual, Frank Morales, on the show.

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01:01:28.000 Frank Morales, of course, is in my new video, Matrix of Evil, and that's going out around the country, already airing on hundreds of access stations, and we have it available at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:01:40.000 So here to talk about the prison economy, the phony drug war, the SWAT teams, the troops, all of it, is Frank Morales.

01:01:49.000 Frank, thanks for coming on the show, sir.

01:01:51.000 Hey, it's great to be with you.

01:01:53.000 You're up in New York and they've got the army black hawk, black helicopters flying around with guys in black ski masks and Nazi helmets pointing machine guns at people.

01:02:02.000 Does nothing to stop terrorists, but does train us how to live in this East German system.

01:02:09.000 What's it like in New York right now?

01:02:11.000 Well, I mean, it's been going on for quite some time now.

01:02:14.000 The process of psychologically conditioning the people for Over military slash, you know, policing.

01:02:26.000 So this is just another manifestation of that.

01:02:29.000 In addition, you know, the Northern Command is now moving to transform its Joint Task Force 6, which was formerly its drug interdiction unit, about 200 military people, located at Fort Bliss, Texas, into an interagency task force uh... north

01:02:52.000 and that task force will be given uh... you know the overall responsibility for working

01:02:56.000 with law enforcement so they're tightening up

01:02:59.000 their uh... apparatus uh... dvd more direct hands-on approach

01:03:04.000 to uh... military control of uh... domestic

01:03:09.000 population well also get into

01:03:12.000 tommy frank's comments about the next attack we got a military government but

01:03:15.000 that's nothing compared ever hearts comments who's the head of north common i would

01:03:19.000 have a joint task force six

01:03:22.000 uh... is is you know it's got two hundred bureaucrats but they come and

01:03:25.000 the fort hood uh... teams that we videotaped three four years ago running

01:03:29.000 checkpoints on the highways

01:03:32.000 They've got troops all over the place in the late 80s, in police uniforms.

01:03:36.000 This covert action's been going on for a while.

01:03:39.000 Yeah, and you know, It's got its surveillance component because, you know, the logic of counterinsurgency is that you can't control what it is you can't see or identify.

01:03:55.000 So the first mission has to do with intelligence gathering and the Pentagon in August, last August, Rumsfeld expanded the counterintelligence field activity.

01:04:09.000 Or CIFA, C-I-F-A, at the Pentagon, and they've been given kind of a data mining mission.

01:04:19.000 Well, Eberhardt said in the L.A.

01:04:21.000 Times, he said, the Army isn't watching you, but the Pentagon is.

01:04:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:26.000 I mean, it's, you know, one of their projects that's being undertaken by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, which is part of CIFA.

01:04:37.000 Frank, we got a break.

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01:04:42.000 I want to go over the latest developments with you, honored to have you.

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01:08:11.000 I'm not trying to patronize the listeners, but I want you to realize that we're following the exact pattern of classical military dictatorship here in the United States.

01:08:33.000 And I want Frank Morales, who's in the top five people I know who are experts on the infrastructure of this Orwellian control grid, to go over this from the start like he was talking to a group of high school seniors.

01:08:49.000 I know a lot of you know more than I do about the globalists and the corruption, but I want this laid out so those out there that don't understand will understand, and for those of us that do have a grasp, We'll have better talking points to calmly go over this with the general public.

01:09:09.000 So, Frank Morales, from your decades of study of this, and laying out what would happen and now it has happened, and what you think is going to happen after that, the infrastructure, well first off, what Marshall Law is,

01:09:22.000 what a police state is, and what they've built, what they're doing.

01:09:26.000 You've got the floor, I mean for this whole segment I'm gonna shut up here, I just want you to go over

01:09:32.000 like you're talking to high school seniors, explaining to them

01:09:35.000 what we're facing. Well, the question of Marshall Law and police state and so forth, I

01:09:42.000 mean, ultimately it comes down, and I think, you know, it's

01:09:46.000 easier for us to conceive of this, I think, more viscerally, which is control, social

01:09:54.000 control.

01:09:55.000 And the elite corporate Pentagon interlock that is directing this has its own needs and requirements.

01:10:06.000 So, you know, but for the moment, those aside, So, I think a place that we look is that historically over the last three decades, and just escalating exponentially since 9-1-1, is a process where the government is daily expanding military operations into areas of local government and law enforcement that historically have been off limits.

01:10:30.000 So that's the most general way to look at it.

01:10:33.000 From the beginning, in terms of the situation we're in right now, the phrase, the militarization of the police, is not a mere metaphor.

01:10:42.000 This is the process wherein the Pentagon, as the military entity, has, through legislative exceptions to posse comitatus, Through military transfers of technology from the Pentagon to local law enforcement, the creation of SWAT, etc., etc., the military, within its doctrinal sphere, which is relatively new, of so-called operations other than war, has created new missions for itself.

01:11:08.000 Now, my position is that these new missions doesn't come out of thin air, that this is not simply the result of You know, Pentagon Joint Chiefs strategist sitting around deciding to do this.

01:11:19.000 This is a need of the corporate elite with whom they're interlocked.

01:11:22.000 And they've initiated a process of creating a police-ization within the military, a function of police-ization, which they're now specifically applying to the U.S.

01:11:36.000 It's the setting up of the Northern Command, which is the domestic military command.

01:11:41.000 Um, which is unprecedented, uh, whose job is and can tap on all the other commands.

01:11:47.000 So it's kind of like, uh, you know, the motherload of commands in a sense.

01:11:52.000 It's, uh, it's primary function, according to its own, uh, mission statement is to quote, assist law enforcement.

01:11:58.000 Um, the Posse Comitatus Act, which is an 1878 statue, his, um, uh, forbids through criminal, um, prosecution, the, uh, enforcement of laws domestically by the Pentagon.

01:12:11.000 So they, you know, they cover that with various, uh, well, we're, we're passively involved.

01:12:16.000 We're passively involved at Waco.

01:12:18.000 Um, we're passively involved in Seattle, et cetera, et cetera.

01:12:23.000 So, you know, in terms of that kind of, uh, initial, um, understanding of what we're in, there's been a process of militarization of the police, um, the Pentagon's publication last year of a domestic operations manual at its center for law and military operations.

01:12:40.000 Again, unprecedented.

01:12:41.000 It would formally have been thought that the publication by the Pentagon of a domestic operations manual would have been an oxymoron, a kind of contradiction in terms.

01:12:50.000 So what are they publishing an operations manual domestically for?

01:12:55.000 So that gives you a sense of, but it's about social control.

01:12:58.000 It's about preempting our ability to exercise our rights, the right of dissent, the right of redress to our grievances, the right to be heard.

01:13:09.000 It's one thing to have free speech, it's another thing, yeah, well, we'll let you have free speech in this pen, or in the middle of the ocean.

01:13:17.000 You know, we want the right to dissent, we want the right to be heard, to have our dissent have effect.

01:13:24.000 So it's about social control, and one other more ominous... So there's a lot of stuff to look at.

01:13:30.000 The weaponry, the so-called use of non-lethal weaponry.

01:13:33.000 Again, the Council on Foreign Relations uh... back in nineteen ninety five and then again in nineteen ninety nine issued reports on non-lethal weapons and advocated strongly uh... for their youth

01:13:47.000 You know, against civilian and non-combatant populations.

01:13:50.000 This is, again, a corporate military interlock, a CFR, and so they began early on promoting the use of these weapons.

01:13:59.000 And, Frank, the CFR also said in these documents, we're going to need terror attacks as the pretext to use this.

01:14:06.000 Yeah, the notion that, you know, our government within this militarized context now, so if you just look at the context we're in as we move into 9-1-1, Within that context, has historically had no problem in creating provocateur action.

01:14:24.000 Operation Northwood, documents are available, you can read the Joint Chiefs' own words, openly advocate creating a pretext in Cuba, including, you know, killing their own people, in order to create a pretext to invade Cuba.

01:14:41.000 Now, you know, issues aside, as far as the politics of all that, But, I mean, the ability or the willingness of our government to kill its own people in order to, you know, help rationalize, justify, and sell its policies, in this case, you know, global plunder and social control, you know, globally, you know, that's happened before.

01:15:05.000 But in terms of a more ominous development recently in terms of the CIA, Which is, of course, also part of this, and the infrastructure, again, of social control has those two components, which is intelligence, to get, you know, to find out, you know, who people, who you are, and that's this geospatial thing I was mentioning, geospatial intelligence agency, which wants to create a spatial data infrastructure, which will be created down to the house level.

01:15:34.000 To your home.

01:15:35.000 Intelligent vandalism.

01:15:36.000 Let me just add, I interviewed people five years ago who were hired by companies to take digital photos of front, back, and top of all the homes in every city.

01:15:45.000 They've already got that.

01:15:46.000 I found that when they announce something, it's already been in place.

01:15:49.000 Exactly.

01:15:50.000 So, I mean, this is the process.

01:15:52.000 And the most recent overt manifestation of this, because now I think, you know, in terms of that, you asked me to give a general picture.

01:15:59.000 Well, let's give, this is the concluding part of it.

01:16:02.000 Is that ultimately, you know, that it's going to require, you know, people on the streets who are, who are, who are interfering in, you know, pressuring, arresting, detaining citizenry.

01:16:16.000 So, you know, it's going to come down to that level.

01:16:19.000 And who are the experts in that?

01:16:21.000 Well, you know, the CIA has a long history of covert operations, and that's like a pretty term.

01:16:29.000 For torture, setting up death squads, assassinations, you know, creating dummy front organizations, etc, etc.

01:16:40.000 Recently, let me just finish with this, Alex.

01:16:43.000 This is important and people need to get on this now.

01:16:48.000 Caroline Maloney in the House of Representatives just put forth a bill.

01:16:53.000 It's called H.R.

01:16:54.000 3439 in the House of Representatives.

01:16:57.000 This bill would embed CIA agents in local police precincts around the country.

01:17:05.000 Quoting from the bill, upon request of the head of state or local law enforcement agency, the Director of Central Intelligence may detail any employee within the Central Intelligence Agency to that state or local law enforcement agency on a non-reimbursable basis.

01:17:22.000 This bill would amend the 1949 Charter of the CIA uh... thereby allowing

01:17:29.000 or the cia station of local police

01:17:33.000 now what i'm getting it out that the conclusion there when you get right down

01:17:36.000 with when the rubber hits the road these are the people who be

01:17:40.000 uh... training and orchestrating the you know the uh... direct

01:17:44.000 uh... uh... could uh... control of uh... and and work of the uh... citizenry

01:17:49.000 And Frank, we know that's already been going on.

01:17:51.000 I would add a third point, not just intelligence and people on the ground, but also the Pentagon office of strategic information who said they plant news stories have been caught planning hundreds of fake letters from troops and the newspapers lies about, you know, domestic fear mongering, fake, fake attacks drills.

01:18:08.000 They've been running to create fear, right?

01:18:11.000 Yeah, I think that, you know, obviously a big part of this is to psychologically condition, whether it's psychologically conditioning soldiers to act reflexively when they shoot.

01:18:26.000 You know, they've had to use operating conditioning techniques for local police so that they have less of a problem, you know, shooting or threatening You know, there are people in their own communities and so forth.

01:18:38.000 And going back to what you said, I would add that we've had the CIA in big departments for decades, but now they're going to legalize their criminal activity.

01:18:46.000 Yeah, I think it's very important that people get on this bill right away.

01:18:49.000 We've got to stop this.

01:18:52.000 On our website, we have the bill and analysis of the situation, but this would embed CIA agents In local police departments around the country.

01:19:03.000 Please give the website out.

01:19:05.000 It's DemilitarizeThePolice, it's all one word, you know, DemilitarizeThePolice, one long phrase, .netfirms, N-E-T-F-I-R-M-S, netfirms.com.

01:19:20.000 And we'll give that out again a little bit later.

01:19:22.000 Yeah, on there, it's immediately, we have the bills there and so forth.

01:19:25.000 It sounds Incredible, but in fact, this bill attempts to completely thwart, surreptitiously, which is apropos for the CIA, the intent of the original setting up of the CIA, which is supposedly to act internationally.

01:19:44.000 We know this is otherwise, of course, Alex.

01:19:46.000 Well, it's a domestic KGB.

01:19:49.000 Exactly.

01:19:52.000 And those are the people that will be training and orchestrating the direct, hands-on approach, as I was referring to.

01:19:58.000 Well, they've already been doing it, now they're going to legalize it.

01:20:01.000 Stay there, there's a lot more to cover in your calls.

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01:24:04.000 All right, our guest is Frank Morales, expert on the police state.

01:24:18.000 The website is www.DemilitarizeThePolice.NetFirms.com.

01:24:28.000 That's DemilitarizeThePolice.NetFirms.com.

01:24:32.000 And I think we have a link to that on the main page of InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:24:37.000 If we don't, we will.

01:24:39.000 Frank, look, I've studied the New World Order.

01:24:42.000 I've been on the ground You know, back in 99, catching the military running checkpoints in Central Texas.

01:24:48.000 I got newscasts from Iowa, Tennessee, California before 9-11, where they had the military out searching cars with police.

01:24:57.000 I've interviewed Marine Corps officers who in 89 and 88 were kicking down gun dealers' doors in Norfolk, Virginia.

01:25:04.000 This has been quietly going on for a long time.

01:25:07.000 And now we've got Eberhardt, the head of NORTHCOM, saying, well, we're under the extraordinary level, the highest level of alert, the real alert that matters, not the scaremongering, you know, orange alert we're under now, that scale.

01:25:19.000 He says, yeah, you know, troops in our lives, on the streets, and Tommy Frank says it's, well, the next attack will set aside the Constitution, it's too bad.

01:25:28.000 But this was all, again, set up beforehand.

01:25:31.000 And one of the biggest facets is shows like 24 on Fox, Threat Matrix on ABC, all these shows.

01:25:38.000 They torture people, it's good.

01:25:41.000 They arrest people who are drug dealers and charge them with terrorism, because that's terrorism.

01:25:45.000 It's a mass manual to condition us that all of this is acceptable.

01:25:51.000 I mean, there's so much to talk about here, so much that's happening.

01:25:56.000 You know, the children in the schools with guns to their heads, police dogs on them, no drugs found, cameras in the bathrooms.

01:26:03.000 I mean, I'm trying to boil it down for people that this is a Orwellian, but not just Orwellian, a Nazi-Russian command and control, whatever you want to... This is classical, classical system that they are scientifically building.

01:26:23.000 There's a book called Hitler's Justice by a guy named Mueller, who is a German lawyer, and what you're saying is astounding.

01:26:34.000 I mean, the whole thing about emergency decrees and, you know, the Reichstag fire in Germany, the emergency decree, 9-1-1, the Patriot...

01:26:50.000 And then the ideology of defending the homeland.

01:26:56.000 You know, the pattern is the same.

01:26:58.000 Localization of local law enforcement.

01:27:03.000 And they're overtly using the same nomenclature.

01:27:06.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 Why are they being so overt?

01:27:10.000 Well, I think part of it is the psychological operations approach.

01:27:17.000 I don't think we've actually coined a phrase for it, or maybe there is, but it's kind of externalizing people's fears as a way for them to not only be afraid, but in some way to adapt to them.

01:27:36.000 Tommy Frank's statement, for instance, regarding that Cigar Aficionado magazine that came out recently, his long interview there, Which he says, well, you know, if another terrorist action, we might have to say goodbye to the Constitution and go with a military-style government.

01:27:54.000 Kind of pretending as though, you know, that's not what it is that he wants, but the floating of these ideas.

01:28:01.000 The Pentagon awarded, gave an award to a writer who wrote a piece in 1994.

01:28:10.000 The title of the piece was Military Coup in 2012.

01:28:16.000 uh... and it's basically uh... story about a military coup that you it's it's so

01:28:22.000 supposedly fiction but uses uh... you know real you know if you can if you

01:28:27.000 want to bring real real uh... historical

01:28:29.000 uh... uh... event and so forth and we're going to hear on air i mean that's a big

01:28:34.000 deal to have generals talking about the next step being martial law or

01:28:39.000 hey maybe tortures good As you said, floating it out there, where we even have debates about it.

01:28:45.000 Well, is martial law what we need?

01:28:47.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 Well, because it requires a certain conditioning of the population, so there'll be rationalizations For the use of non-lethal weapons, there'll be rationalizations put forth to try to convince the people.

01:29:01.000 But I think the American people understand clearly, in some respects, what's going on.

01:29:07.000 There's obviously an element of fear.

01:29:10.000 But our campaign, for instance, demilitarizing the police, what we're looking at is we have to delineate The way in which we can break these, you know, we can stop these developments in the areas of weaponry that's being, that people are, these local law enforcement agencies are receiving the electromagnetic pulse weaponry and so forth.

01:29:34.000 Those things, we can identify those as the public funds.

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01:32:59.000 All right, my friends, Alex Jones here, back live.

01:33:21.000 Crystallizing it down to its simplest form, its classical tyranny.

01:33:28.000 I mean, again, a piece of the puzzle.

01:33:31.000 I turn on Army News Watch three years ago, before 9-11, that airs every day on Channel 17, our local cable.

01:33:40.000 The county has its own television channel on the cable.

01:33:43.000 And it's a federal show, and it says, hey, no matter where you live, we will drop by your office if you have two employees or a hundred and drug test them.

01:33:53.000 The Pentagon wants to help, and at the end of the show, a little local blurb put on there about, hey, troops from Fort Hood or troops from Camp Mabry or troops from down in San Antonio will come to Austin and drug test your employees once a month or every week.

01:34:07.000 Again, getting the military involved in drug testing you for free, because they care!

01:34:13.000 And I saw articles in 99 out of North Carolina where, oh, the troops are training to fight terrorism.

01:34:18.000 We're going to have troops in the factories soon watching everyone.

01:34:22.000 I mean, this is classical communist China, folks.

01:34:26.000 And it's right here in front of us happening, ratcheting it up more and more, federalizing your local police.

01:34:35.000 And Frank Morales has been fighting this for a long time.

01:34:37.000 He's written a book on the subject.

01:34:38.000 We'll talk about that a little bit later.

01:34:40.000 Got a bunch of callers here.

01:34:43.000 But, Frank, yeah, if they want to give local police a Humvee with a microwave gun on the top, we've got to take control of our cities politically and say no.

01:34:53.000 But to first stop that, we've got to be able to vote.

01:34:55.000 Well, three of the big touchscreen electronic voting machine companies have former deputy directors of the CIA running them.

01:35:02.000 They've been caught manipulating elections.

01:35:03.000 They've got convicted felons for computer fraud as their vice presidents running elections.

01:35:09.000 So it's definitely We're very late in the hour.

01:35:14.000 Why, here's a question, why do the globalists need this?

01:35:17.000 You know, we've put up with this tyranny so far non-violently.

01:35:21.000 What is it they have planned so horrible they know they've got to have a massive oppression force?

01:35:27.000 Well, I think in part, you know, they suffer from what is known as the paranoia of the thief.

01:35:36.000 So, you know, they're afraid.

01:35:40.000 And I think that what they have planned is exactly what we're seeing.

01:35:44.000 You know, but I think that the counterattack on our part has to be, you know, they're attacking us at the base, in our homes, in the communities, and so forth.

01:35:58.000 And we have to formulate strategies that deal with it on that level.

01:36:03.000 The voting is one aspect of it, but I think there are a number of other things we can do, which is to try and block.

01:36:11.000 We have to preempt their ability to preempt us.

01:36:14.000 And I think that by identifying within local police departments and local law enforcement agencies, you know, we need to deconstruct those entities.

01:36:25.000 We need to find the contracts that are let for these uh... weapons to come in

01:36:31.000 we need to understand the kind of training and who's doing the training

01:36:34.000 i went and and if people organize and focus around that on the grass roots

01:36:39.000 uh... we can deal with this right where where it's taking place and an example

01:36:43.000 of that would be four hundred plus cities now

01:36:46.000 throwing out the patron exactly and i i think on a federal level

01:36:50.000 uh... campaign that i think is worthwhile and would be for people to get their local congresspeople

01:36:56.000 to begin process of recode occasion a poppy comet artifact The Posse Comitatus Act is, you know, it's just a law and it's only so strong as the people below it who, you know, are pushing to make it effective.

01:37:12.000 It's the law that delineates the role of the military and the police and says it's a criminal violation for the Pentagon to be involved in.

01:37:21.000 In local law enforcement and so forth.

01:37:23.000 We need to recodify that.

01:37:25.000 We need to reaffirm it.

01:37:27.000 We need to have people begin to create a discourse within the Congress of pushing the military out of our lives here.

01:37:34.000 Well, Frank Morales, here's an example of what this means.

01:37:41.000 Whether it's Miami or Seattle, and we've got judges now admitting this, reporters have seen this, you'll have a couple thousand peaceful people Ten thugs run up in black uniforms, dressed like anarchists, start hitting people.

01:37:53.000 They pull back behind the police.

01:37:54.000 The police then attack all the innocent people, old women, reporters, you name it.

01:38:00.000 And the same thing happened here in Austin at a Fortune 500 meeting.

01:38:04.000 The cops, I was in the middle of it, were trying to provocateur.

01:38:07.000 Suddenly, five years ago, they're issued black uniforms and the weird ninja outfits.

01:38:12.000 Suddenly, Delta Force is involved in advising them.

01:38:15.000 Suddenly, these riots break out.

01:38:17.000 Suddenly, you can't protest anywhere.

01:38:19.000 They heard you off ten miles from where the WTO or whoever's meeting.

01:38:26.000 I mean, they really are, time after time, trying to stop protests.

01:38:31.000 And that tells me, they've got stuff planned that's so horrible, they know there's going to be huge protests, they're trying to preempt that now.

01:38:38.000 Exactly.

01:38:40.000 It's a primary, you know, it's a beginning point.

01:38:44.000 Again, as I mentioned for counterinsurgency, is to act preemptively.

01:38:49.000 It's gathering the intelligence.

01:38:50.000 And the whole preemptive notion is not something Bush came up with.

01:38:53.000 It's a long-time tenet.

01:38:55.000 of counter-insurgency work, the CIA and so forth.

01:38:59.000 The Pentagon's Operation Garden Plot, which is the overall so-called civil disturbance suppression apparatus, has been in high gear.

01:39:09.000 And what we're seeing now is an attempt overtly, what happened in Miami, I was on a panel with some steel workers the other day, and this was a torture, a thuggery, Violating the rights of peaceful dissent.

01:39:27.000 And I think people now are clear about it, and we need to go directly at this.

01:39:32.000 We can't allow for, except as the fait accompli, that these people are going to continue to escalate their violence against us.

01:39:40.000 And I think if people organize and look specifically, I think it's important, my own position is that we need to look at this weaponry.

01:39:49.000 We need to take these tools out of their hands.

01:39:52.000 And I think if we organize, if we look at the funding chains, and we can do that, and create legislation on a local level, Posse Comitatus Act-like statutes on a local level.

01:40:03.000 Okay, let's take some calls.

01:40:05.000 Ron in New York, and then Chris and Diane and others.

01:40:10.000 Go ahead, Ron.

01:40:11.000 Hi, Alex.

01:40:12.000 Hi, Frank.

01:40:13.000 I would like to wish you both a Happy New Year.

01:40:15.000 Happy New Year.

01:40:17.000 Hopefully it will be.

01:40:19.000 With reference to the militarization of police, this is not anything that is new, and this is not something that came about since 9-11-2001.

01:40:26.000 But there's a hyper-warp acceleration.

01:40:29.000 That's correct.

01:40:30.000 That was the catalyst to accelerate the process.

01:40:34.000 I was making these observations as far back as ten years ago.

01:40:37.000 Eleven years ago, I saw this happening.

01:40:41.000 All the way back in the early days of the Clinton administration.

01:40:44.000 When they were giving hardware like armored vehicles that they had decommissioned in the military to a police agency.

01:40:50.000 I'm from, I'm retired from the New York City Police Department and this is something I had spoken out about way back then.

01:40:57.000 As a matter of fact, Clinton, I don't know if any of you would remember this, Clinton had made a remark back at that time That he wanted to shift the gears of what would be called the military-industrial complex to law enforcement.

01:41:11.000 And that's what Eberhardt said in the LA Times.

01:41:14.000 He said, we're now focused on the home game, not the away game.

01:41:18.000 And Clinton said that ten years ago because, of course, with the end of the Cold War, We didn't have the communists in Russia to fight anymore, so I guess this military-industrial complex has to continue to profit and thrive, so it has to find an enemy.

01:41:31.000 Well, Ron, it's like the drug war.

01:41:33.000 They ship the drugs in to create the crisis.

01:41:35.000 Now they create the terror to create the crisis.

01:41:38.000 Problem, reaction, solution.

01:41:41.000 And they're the ones who are controlling, creating the problem, the reaction, and the solution.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, I think you're exactly on point, Ron.

01:41:48.000 I think the The thing about Clinton and under Clinton was he and Reno got together and created a memorandum between the DOD and the DOJ called the Technology Transfer Agreement.

01:42:04.000 Correct.

01:42:05.000 And legislatively, you know, sanctioned, legalized that process that you're pointing out.

01:42:10.000 And that includes ground penetrating radar to look through your walls.

01:42:13.000 Yeah, all kinds of things.

01:42:14.000 There's a small arms industry boom at this point in this type of stuff.

01:42:18.000 Everything from surveillance, so-called non-lethal, less than lethal, whatever, you know, these are The primary point being that they're directed against non-combatants.

01:42:28.000 Well, really, when you train someone, these are like having the gloves on for kickboxing.

01:42:35.000 This is to train the police to engage the public so we get used to this image of guns shooting at crowds.

01:42:41.000 This is preparing us for Tiananmen Square events.

01:42:44.000 This is acclimation of the public, as you mentioned, Alex.

01:42:47.000 These shows, the news reports here, Listen, I had some interaction with the press in the 1990s, a little bit, I guess, sort of a local phenomenon for a short time, and I know how interviews are done.

01:42:58.000 And I know that the press can create the impression, particularly the broadcast media, that something that is wholly unpopular is popular.

01:43:06.000 Case in point, we had news reports yesterday evening in our local news in New York City, and they find probably the two people out of a crowd of a thousand who agree with their premise And they would actually use this to brainwash people that, you know, the majority of the public wants the government to put proctoscopes in us in order to keep us free.

01:43:26.000 Hey, Ron.

01:43:27.000 Ron, thanks for the call.

01:43:28.000 And for Frank Morales, I talked about this in the first hour.

01:43:30.000 I talked to my friend who works at the Bergstrom Airport here in Austin.

01:43:34.000 He said he watched News 8, the local news channel.

01:43:37.000 Talked to over 40 people who all disagree with the new security, said they didn't like it, said it didn't keep them safe, said it was a joke, said control the borders, and then one old lady at the end said, I love it.

01:43:48.000 They talked to her, turned their cameras off, left, and then it was her on the news.

01:43:52.000 Go ahead, Frank.

01:43:53.000 Yeah, it's clear that the control of information and the manipulation of the population through this so-called mass media Is part of the problem.

01:44:08.000 So, you know, all I can say is thank God for shows like yours and others that are putting out the information.

01:44:14.000 Because, you know, the point Ron made about the thin hold that they have on the population, that they have to do that, you know, because we could look at that two ways.

01:44:23.000 Yeah, they report on this one woman, but hey, those 99 people out there who disagreed, that's us.

01:44:30.000 And I think what we need to do is now organize at the grassroots level And begin to attack these problems.

01:44:36.000 I'm very confident in the creative potential of people to deal with this.

01:44:40.000 Here's the problem, Frank.

01:44:41.000 They could blow something up today.

01:44:42.000 They're saying, oh, it's probably going to happen.

01:44:43.000 I hope it doesn't.

01:44:44.000 But the point is, they're capable of doing whatever's needed to scare us.

01:44:49.000 We've got to have the understanding, the renaissance, the epiphany, that it is the military-industrial complex behind the terror.

01:44:55.000 If we can't get that across, they're going to keep winning.

01:44:58.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 No, as long as people buy the notion that there are these Demons out there that are coming from some other place and so forth, you know, whatever.

01:45:10.000 It's true that it's a provocateur state.

01:45:15.000 These people create these situations in order to justify and rationalize their own agenda.

01:45:23.000 There's certainly, and you've promoted a lot of this information around 9-1-1 that would lead most reasonable people Say, hey, there's some kind of setup going on here.

01:45:34.000 This stinks.

01:45:36.000 And with Operation Northwood and other historical precedents, we see that they're quite capable of creating terrorist events in order to justify social control, this agenda.

01:45:49.000 Let's take another call.

01:45:50.000 Let's talk to Diane in South Carolina. 1.00

01:45:53.000 Go ahead.

01:45:55.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:45:57.000 What I wanted to ask Frank about, in 1970 it was called the American Democratic Institute did a program for the government, it's called Overseer, Gatekeeper, and in it they did like the entire Patriot Act was what it was, one and two.

01:46:13.000 But in there they had in control of the United States at a point we would not have our presidential elections Because the president would have to quote-unquote, stay in power because of martial law and everything's going on.

01:46:26.000 You think we're that close to that?

01:46:28.000 Yep.

01:46:28.000 And I have one more question.

01:46:31.000 Yeah.

01:46:32.000 I, I, I think, uh, as we were mentioning that the potential for some catastrophic event to cancel out next, uh, election and so forth is there because we can see the, uh, you know, the tone, um, We got the head of NORTHCOM, the new domestic military unit, saying, yeah, martial law might be needed, folks.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, it's quite possible.

01:46:59.000 And as you mentioned, back at that period, the Houston plan, Tom Charles Houston also was concerned with mass detention and martial law or martial rule, what have you, in these kinds of scenarios.

01:47:13.000 So yeah, no, I think we need to be aware of that possibility and plan on protecting ourselves.

01:47:22.000 I hope you're paying attention out there, folks.

01:47:24.000 This is really happening.

01:47:26.000 And you know, Frank and I didn't just jump up this year and say, oh, look, it's martial law.

01:47:30.000 Right, it's been planned ever since way back.

01:47:32.000 I mean, I've been talking about this for nine, ten years.

01:47:35.000 Frank's been talking about it longer than that, laying out the program.

01:47:38.000 I mean, we're not making this up.

01:47:40.000 Well, Alex, you know how they are so big on symbols.

01:47:43.000 I want you to go to the morning NBC News this morning when they showed the big ball that's going up at Times Square.

01:47:50.000 It is made of triangles of the Eye of Horus.

01:47:54.000 With the eye in the middle, the triangle with the rays coming out.

01:47:57.000 And they were talking about how this generates the most beautiful light in the world.

01:48:02.000 And they got an insignia on it signifying all the countries of the world.

01:48:06.000 And he said this is a great step in our world union.

01:48:11.000 I want you to get the news this morning.

01:48:15.000 Watch it.

01:48:15.000 It was on the NBC News this morning.

01:48:18.000 Thank you.

01:48:19.000 Bye.

01:48:19.000 Thank you, Diane.

01:48:22.000 A facet we haven't really talked about, Frank Morales, is police and military.

01:48:26.000 A lot of them I've talked to, especially after they've been in a few years, start waking up to this.

01:48:30.000 99% of police and firefighters and medical workers refuse a smallpox shot.

01:48:36.000 They had to suspend that.

01:48:37.000 How important is it to reach out and educate the police themselves?

01:48:41.000 I think it's very important.

01:48:42.000 It's critical.

01:48:45.000 As I said, when push comes to shove, when the tire hits the road, it's about You know, our neighbors against neighbors.

01:48:54.000 You know, yeah, they'll they'll attempt to import people and create some kind of international police forces and so forth.

01:49:00.000 But ultimately, we need to reach people who are being used as tools in this in this game plan.

01:49:08.000 Part of the the experience we have recently here at One Police Plaza, we had a press conference right down at police headquarters around uh... you know banning rubber bullets and and these people and electromagnetic pulse weaponry and all this kind of stuff uh... and a lot of the police people who were there expressed similar desires they don't want to be involved in the so-called uh... uh... civil disturbance suppression operations they want ads in the newspaper saying we apologize we've been ordered to crack down and treat you badly yeah i mean that you know it uh... it's very important that we organize we educate uh... we reach out

01:49:44.000 Communities need to get familiar with their local police department.

01:49:47.000 They need to ask police, do you want to be part of slitting America's throat for the big bankers?

01:49:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:49:53.000 We need to just be as direct as we can and impress upon them that it's treasonous, the activities of this elite and what they're involved in, and that the dissent is a form of patriotism.

01:50:12.000 And we're not, you know, it's important for them to make that kind of judgment, but they need to be educated.

01:50:19.000 We can't sit back.

01:50:20.000 And allow for this intense media manipulation for these technology transfers, these laws.

01:50:27.000 We've got to organize.

01:50:29.000 Well, Frank, just the level of the syrupy, disgusting, again, Running Man type newscast, I think that should wake everybody up.

01:50:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:41.000 I mean, for somebody who's awake like I am or you are, I mean, how do you handle it?

01:50:47.000 It drives me up a wall.

01:50:51.000 Not that much.

01:50:52.000 I tend not to take in too much of that kind of information, because I realize where it's coming from.

01:50:58.000 And alternative sources of information, the stuff's out there.

01:51:01.000 We gotta break.

01:51:01.000 We'll be right back, Frank.

01:51:02.000 Stay with us, folks.

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01:54:16.000 We got Jack McClam and Colonel Craig Roberts together in the next hour.

01:54:20.000 I'll get to more of the news we have not yet detailed.

01:54:25.000 Frank Morales, the White House has been caught, this is admitted, issuing fake terror alerts to quote, create hysteria.

01:54:36.000 And the alerts in Arizona, the alerts in France, the alerts in Nevada, the alerts in San Antonio, it's all staged!

01:54:45.000 And they've been caught doing this yet again, but no one's held accountable.

01:54:49.000 And then with Iraq, they come out and they tell wild lies, claim they've captured the same person three or four times, get caught lying about that, get caught lying about mass graves, get caught lying about uranium, the Jessica Lynch fable. 0.90

01:55:03.000 They're torturing all these Iraqis and they let us learn about it. 1.00

01:55:06.000 It seems like they're practicing getting caught lying to almost titrate the dose Or condition us to accept that?

01:55:14.000 I mean, this is very sophisticated.

01:55:18.000 I mean, I guess it's a 21st century version of the Big Lie, which is Hitler's approach, which is that you could cover one thing with another thing and another thing, and just a series of lies, and just create a whirlwind of malfeasance and fraudulency. 0.92

01:55:39.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I agree with that, but as you and I can sit here and see through this, and I'm sure people who are listening right now can see through this, it's really a question of what it is we do about it.

01:55:53.000 We understand clearly that we're up against a desperate elite in this country who are involved in an agenda that... Why are they so desperate?

01:56:05.000 We were leaving them alone.

01:56:06.000 They had all the power.

01:56:08.000 Why do they want everything?

01:56:09.000 Well, I think their projections over the next 25 years quite possibly dictate that unless they remove large portions of the population, unless they contain and control large and portions of the population of the world

01:56:30.000 that their interest their profits and their power will be challenged and that's what the nack and others have

01:56:35.000 said well said frank morales i want you to have a good

01:56:38.000 new year the website is uh... demilitarized the police dot net firms dot com

01:56:44.000 and uh... your new book is amazing uh... how folks get it well it's but we're putting most of it up on the website so

01:56:51.000 work as i'm interested in getting this information out to people

01:56:54.000 so if they go to the website there's a good chunk of it is on there already.

01:56:58.000 Well, it's a beautiful book.

01:56:59.000 How do folks buy it?

01:57:01.000 They can contact people.

01:57:03.000 Well, you know, because it's out of print, and we're trying to get them to reprint it.

01:57:08.000 But if they contact me, I can get them in touch with a new publication.

01:57:13.000 It's just in the process now of going through a second printing with some other publisher.

01:57:18.000 But let me give you my email and people can contact me and we'll get them the information.

01:57:22.000 Or they can actually leave me a note on the website, at our email on the website.

01:57:27.000 And that's F-R-M at P-A-N-I-X dot com? 0.98

01:57:31.000 Exactly.

01:57:32.000 Okay, I'm going to give out a gun in the next hour.

01:57:35.000 Yeah, people can contact me there.

01:57:37.000 We also have a link on the website for the Urban Warrior movie, which is a documentary on the militarization of the Klingons. 0.85

01:57:44.000 And I believe I'm in that, aren't I?

01:57:46.000 Alright, that's a great film.

01:57:48.000 Frank, thanks so much for coming on and I'll talk to you in the New Year.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, you take care and Happy New Year to you and all the listeners.

01:57:54.000 God bless, my friend.

01:57:55.000 Likewise.

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02:00:13.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:18.000 All right, it's the last hour of the last show of 2003.

02:00:40.000 And we had the doctor on in the first hour talking about mad cow disease and just how serious it is, how it's in the

02:00:48.000 pigs, how it's in the lamb, and how that's being covered up.

02:00:54.000 And we had Frank Morales, the police state expert, on the last hour.

02:00:58.000 They are publicly setting up a military dictatorship.

02:01:01.000 Do you realize how serious this is?

02:01:03.000 Has it sunk in yet?

02:01:04.000 We're going to take calls this hour.

02:01:06.000 We're going to have police and military against the New World Order founder and head, Jack McClam, back on with us.

02:01:11.000 And my good buddy, Colonel Craig Roberts.

02:01:13.000 Both are great patriots and great Americans.

02:01:16.000 Because we had them on last week and ran out of time.

02:01:18.000 So they'll be with us right into the end of this year.

02:01:24.000 And we're so honored to have both of these gentlemen.

02:01:27.000 There's so much news, the fake terror alerts, the fear mongering, a congressman saying nobody should go to any big events, it's not safe, he wouldn't be caught dead doing it.

02:01:37.000 A lot of key stuff this hour and your calls.

02:01:41.000 Let's go to Jack McClam, who I know we've got on now.

02:01:44.000 Jack, good to have you back on.

02:01:45.000 Hey brothers, good to be back on with you and also our dear brother Craig there.

02:01:53.000 Jack, you've been warning folks for 22, 23 years.

02:01:58.000 You've laid out what was going to happen.

02:01:59.000 It's now happening.

02:02:01.000 It's got to be painful to watch the entrails of America being torn out.

02:02:08.000 It's like having a front row seat in the Coliseum and seeing your fellow Christians being eaten by the lions.

02:02:15.000 I mean, it's just incredible, brother.

02:02:17.000 As I know you guys feel the same.

02:02:20.000 We've known for years because The enemy of God and liberty has explained their plans and made them available, and so we knew what was going to happen, but it is tragic, especially here at Aid in the Bed Police Military Newsletter and Police Against the New World Order, where we're getting mail, just got more mail today from a young brother, Master Sergeant in the Middle East, and it just tears your heart out.

02:02:46.000 He and a couple of his buddies, They're trying to be secret patriots over there and trying to hand out information.

02:02:53.000 They can't hand it out because they get in deep trouble if they find out they're true informed patriots.

02:02:59.000 So this brother says they have to secretly put things on bulletin boards and leave things in public places where their fellow colleagues will find them to try to help educate them on what's really going on.

02:03:12.000 And you know, it's amazing.

02:03:16.000 This is American soldiers.

02:03:18.000 They can't even talk about the Constitution, can't talk about their oath of office, what they should be doing and what they shouldn't be doing, and talking about this conspiracy to destroy the United States of America.

02:03:31.000 It just breaks your heart.

02:03:32.000 Just absolutely breaks your heart.

02:03:34.000 Well, I want to talk about solutions today and get a little bit into Mad Cubs.

02:03:38.000 We didn't have time to do that last time.

02:03:39.000 We're about to break, but let's bring Colonel Craig Roberts up.

02:03:44.000 Craig, what's on your mind today here at the final show of this year?

02:03:47.000 Oh, well, you know, Alex, it's always good to be back with you and, of course, Jack.

02:03:51.000 Jack and I go back a long time.

02:03:54.000 And a couple of things.

02:03:56.000 I've got all kinds of stuff on this mad cow that we didn't get a chance to talk about because I don't think people realize how serious it is and how long it's been here and how many people actually have died from it and what's been done to cover it up.

02:04:05.000 And I've got all that information for them today.

02:04:08.000 But also, Jack was talking about how hard it is to disseminate information inside the military.

02:04:13.000 But it's amazing that if you can just get it in, how far it goes, especially overseas where there's not a lot of reading material.

02:04:20.000 I sent a case of my book, The Medusophile, to a friend of mine who's a Lieutenant Colonel in Special Forces in Afghanistan, and he hand-carried him out to different individuals of various ranks who have loaned him to places all over the country, and I get emails from these guys.

02:04:35.000 It's found its way into foxholes and the mountains.

02:04:36.000 It's absolutely incredible what happens if you can just get it to them.

02:04:39.000 And if we could just get your books and Jack's books and newsletters and videos and my videos to half these people, we would win overnight.

02:04:47.000 We have the force to do it.

02:04:49.000 We have the tools.

02:04:51.000 We've just got to have the will.

02:04:52.000 We'll be right back.

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02:08:13.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:18.000 That's right, my friends.

02:08:20.000 Live from Austin, Texas, there's so much I want to cover as quickly as possible in this final hour of the year.

02:08:27.000 I don't want to jam some calls in in the second half hour.

02:08:32.000 I want to get into Mad Cow because Colonel Roberts has had some personal experience with friends and family with this.

02:08:38.000 I want to get into the police state in the New World Order with Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order.

02:08:44.000 But Colonel Roberts, you just mentioned how you sent a case of your excellent book, Medusafile, that gives us a broad view of the New World Order and case point examples, and how it got to the Special Forces, your friend in Special Forces, and now has gone all over the world with multiple people reading it in foxholes in Afghanistan, learning about the big picture.

02:09:04.000 The power of, and I thank God every day for this, of just what I've done in the last nine years.

02:09:13.000 The thousands of radio interviews, the show, the videos, to go on shows in places I'm not on the radio, and people call in who've seen the films because somebody gave them a copy, and the churches that are waking up, and the millions, the millions that have woken up because of Jack McClam and his newsletter for twenty-plus years.

02:09:32.000 I want to talk about force a multiplication of information and I want people to order your books.

02:09:38.000 I want people to support Jack McClam and I didn't even intend to do this but this is such a key I'm no fan of the Ayatollahs in Iran, but the Ayatollah Khamenei came to power with copies of audio cassettes, copies of copies of copies of copies.

02:09:56.000 Well, we're the good guys.

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02:10:01.000 We know this is working.

02:10:03.000 But enough people haven't decided to do that.

02:10:06.000 They've let the will of the New World Order scare them into submission that you can't affect change, that you can't get things done.

02:10:14.000 Well, isn't that classical enemy-type Tokyo Rose type programming?

02:10:22.000 Gentlemen, comments from both of you about the power of our materials that are so accurate and so good.

02:10:29.000 And I mean, all three of us, we've got the track record here.

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02:10:54.000 You can chum the water all day long and just catch a few fish, but they're important fish when you catch them.

02:11:00.000 You know, it was said that if you can convince one person, they can convince two, and they can convince four, then you win.

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02:11:18.000 I went to a small country post office, and the lady there, as soon as she saw the address, she had a checklist that she had to go down, and she said, are there any Bibles in here?

02:11:27.000 I said, no, there's no Bibles. 0.95

02:11:28.000 Well, is there any religious material having to do with Christianity in here?

02:11:32.000 I said, no, not really.

02:11:33.000 Why?

02:11:34.000 She said, well, we can't send that to these countries.

02:11:36.000 I said, wait a minute.

02:11:37.000 I'm sending this to an APO.

02:11:39.000 That's an Army Post Office in New York.

02:11:42.000 And I'm not sending it overseas.

02:11:43.000 It's going to an Army Post Office.

02:11:44.000 Yes, but this APO number says it's going to go to Iraq or to a Middle Eastern country.

02:11:49.000 And because of that, you cannot send any Christian material.

02:11:51.000 You cannot send any Bibles.

02:11:53.000 I said, wait a minute.

02:11:54.000 We just won the war!

02:11:55.000 We just got these guys over there, according to our government, and they've taken over the place.

02:11:59.000 They run it.

02:11:59.000 It's going to an American guy in an American base camp.

02:12:03.000 What difference does it make if there's a Bible in that chapel?

02:12:05.000 Well, Craig, Saddam allowed Bibles! 0.97

02:12:07.000 Oh, absolutely!

02:12:08.000 But here I'm on U.S.

02:12:09.000 Post Office, and she looked at me, and she said very quietly, she said, it's going to get worse.

02:12:13.000 I said, what do you mean?

02:12:14.000 She said, we're already having meetings on what we're going to do If the ACLU decides to sue the post office and bar us from being a government information in allowing anyone to send any Bibles or religious material anywhere to a government post office.

02:12:30.000 Now that means I can't send you one in Texas!

02:12:32.000 So this is, again, the secret policing of the mail.

02:12:36.000 Please continue, I don't want to get Jack McClam's comment on this.

02:12:41.000 So where does it go from there, Jack?

02:12:46.000 You know, we've watched for many years now, decades, as the American people have become active in trying to inform their neighbors on what's going on.

02:12:58.000 And we have reached millions and millions.

02:13:02.000 We know, and it's a fact, that when we get one of our police and military constitutional publications in the hand of one of our brothers and sisters actively on duty, And either the military or law enforcement.

02:13:15.000 It is shown to best friends first and then it gets around, you know, it gets around handed to others.

02:13:22.000 And so it's a multiple effect that is incredible because we have people mailing us copies of newsletters that look like 10th generation copies of some of our constitutional articles and all that's written by law enforcement and military people.

02:13:40.000 And so, you're right, it's just incredible what happens when the people will get active and take a tape, just one tape of Alex Jones, or one of our newsletters, or one of Craig's books, or articles, new website pages, and make copies of that and just get it out, get it out to people.

02:14:00.000 It's amazing the duplicate effect it has, doubling effect it has, tripling effect.

02:14:07.000 So that's the answer to this.

02:14:09.000 But we should also remember that the communists have always said that never underestimate the power of a small group of committed citizens to change the world.

02:14:19.000 It's the only thing that ever has.

02:14:21.000 And Samuel Adams reminds us that it never takes the majority to prevail.

02:14:25.000 A minority can prevail.

02:14:28.000 And so we don't have to have all the people educated out there.

02:14:33.000 We just have to have a certain amount That we'll stand up and speak out for justice and liberty in this country to take our nation back.

02:14:40.000 So it is not something that is not possible.

02:14:47.000 It is possible to do this, and we just need all the listeners out there to get your tapes, Alex, to get the books of Craig and our newsletters and go to our websites and and get copies of the things on there.

02:15:02.000 Well, both of you, Jack McClam, you first.

02:15:04.000 Tell folks some of the items that you want folks to get, and then we'll have Craig do that.

02:15:08.000 Well, first of all, get a hold of us at our volunteer, all-volunteer police and military association, including

02:15:14.000 this old cop, and get a copy of our publication, Aid in the Bed, police

02:15:19.000 and military newsletter, and make copies of it.

02:15:21.000 Nothing is copyrighted.

02:15:25.000 And get it out in the hands of your friends and relatives, because every two people out there listening today have a

02:15:32.000 friend or a family member that's in law enforcement or the military.

02:15:37.000 So just get out our publications, because we have a motto here saying that

02:15:44.000 uh... tyranny cannot come to the door of any american unless it comes in uniform

02:15:49.000 not the butcher the baker of the condom maker that's going to take your guns and 0.82

02:15:52.000 come take your husband wife and kids away gonna be somebody in uniform so 0.97

02:15:57.000 these are critical people with craig knows that as you know alex

02:16:01.000 cops and soldiers listening to your show today they need to get a hold of it because they know how

02:16:07.000 critical it is to get these brothers and sisters re-educated back on the side of

02:16:11.000 the american people back under their both they swore to defend america not the

02:16:16.000 system not the government

02:16:18.000 And protect the constitutional rights of people and so forth.

02:16:21.000 Okay, so what, give folks the contact info.

02:16:25.000 Okay, they can get a hold of us here at Adenabeth Police Military Newsletter, that's the best place to start, and write to us here at HC, like Henry Charles, 11, Box 357, like the good old Magnum I carried on duty for 20-some years.

02:16:41.000 And that's Kami, I-K-A-M-I-A-H. 1.00

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02:16:56.000 If you can, send us three bucks and we'll be able to fund our postage and reprint our newsletters and we'll send you out a copy if you'd like to get on our mailing list or buy a subscription for a police officer or soldier that you know.

02:17:12.000 Just a $25 donation and we'll get that out to them regularly.

02:17:16.000 And begin their educational process to get them back on the side of God and the Constitution.

02:17:21.000 Absolutely, and this is powerful info, Craig.

02:17:25.000 Over on my site right now, my webmaster has put up several links to some Mad Cow articles, if people want to run over there and look at that real quick, because we're going to get a little bit, they'll have a little bit of a handle on what we're going to talk about.

02:17:37.000 He's posted four or five good links to some really fascinating articles on Mad Cow disease, and that's at Rifle Warrior.

02:17:43.000 www.riflewarrior.com. Just rifle as in gun, warrior as in soldier.

02:17:47.000 www.riflewarrior.com. The Medusafiles there and Killzoner there, those are the two most important books right now.

02:17:54.000 Another one called Doorway to Hell Disaster in Somalia tells us why we do not want anything to do with the UN.

02:18:00.000 It gives you what really happened behind the scenes in Somalia.

02:18:03.000 Myself and General Ed Wheeler put that book together. It's in hardback. It's available there also.

02:18:08.000 Medusafile, remember folks, if you can't get it to bookstore it's because it's available,

02:18:13.000 but they keep pulling it out of the computers. They keep trying to blackmail you.

02:18:18.000 And you're a best-selling author.

02:18:19.000 It's not like you're some guy going, oh, they don't like me.

02:18:22.000 In fact, I've got a new book coming out this summer called Crosshairs on the Kill Zone that follows up One Shot, One Kill.

02:18:29.000 One shot one kill is a best seller and it's in like 14th printing and this is the book

02:18:32.000 that's going to follow on to that one and New York City loves them.

02:18:35.000 They go out, they go everywhere, they're in all the PX's, all the stores, but when you

02:18:39.000 put out the truth in the Medusa file, you can't even get anybody in New York City interested

02:18:44.000 in publishing it so we had to do it ourselves.

02:18:47.000 And folks, I'm not here belaboring the info that Jack McClam has and that Colonel Roberts has for no reason.

02:18:56.000 I'm not making anything out of this.

02:18:58.000 I'm doing it because I believe in what they're doing.

02:19:00.000 I know it's accurate info. 0.96

02:19:03.000 And if you don't buy my videos, you don't get their books, you don't get their newsletters, you're crazy.

02:19:07.000 And by the way, Jack's got a long website name.

02:19:09.000 Just type Police and Military Against the New World Order or Jack McClam into a website and it'll be one of the top links.

02:19:14.000 Great website.

02:19:16.000 And we've got a few minutes for the break here.

02:19:19.000 Let's launch into Mad Cow, because this is a serious issue.

02:19:22.000 Colonel Roberts, your personal experience with it.

02:19:25.000 Well, Alex, you and I discussed this some time back, so you can bear witness that this isn't something that we just started.

02:19:33.000 It has to do with the death of a dear friend of mine from Mad Cow disease about two and a half years ago in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

02:19:38.000 When we get back from the break, I'll give you his name, I'll give you what happened to him, and I'll tell you how they covered it up.

02:19:42.000 And also, your wife's family.

02:19:45.000 My mother-in-law, absolutely.

02:19:47.000 We'll be back, folks, and then we'll get into the police state.

02:19:49.000 General Eberhardt's comments, and take your calls.

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02:24:08.000 Coming up, we're going to talk about the military dictatorship, which they're now announcing they're publicly setting up.

02:24:13.000 9-11 was only the setup for all of this.

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02:24:23.000 And your calls in the next segment, Rodney in Connecticut and others, be patient.

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02:24:29.000 I also want to talk about just the sheer evil of the New World Order that the average person just isn't conscious of, but is documented.

02:24:37.000 And both you guys jump in any time here.

02:24:40.000 I talked to a scientist doctor in the first hour.

02:24:43.000 We've known about Mad Cow for a long time.

02:24:45.000 They've covered it up.

02:24:46.000 uh... most of these great the problem is big agra those allowed this to happen 0.91

02:24:50.000 now they'll use it to regulate out their competition to continue their practices

02:24:54.000 uh... but the colonel roberts that you've you've had personal experience

02:24:56.000 with mad cow uh... go over that for us 0.92

02:25:01.000 about two and a half to three years ago a friend of ours named jim hale who was my mechanic at

02:25:08.000 american airlines started getting sick and he didn't know what was wrong

02:25:12.000 He started losing coordination.

02:25:14.000 He started having problems remembering things and so on.

02:25:17.000 He had the classic symptoms of what at that time we figured was Alzheimer's.

02:25:21.000 The only problem is the guy was only like 48 years old.

02:25:25.000 He was in good health.

02:25:26.000 There didn't seem to be anything else wrong with him.

02:25:27.000 He was on all kinds of health food regimens and took all of his vitamins and herbs and everything.

02:25:32.000 His wife and him were really, in fact, they were into selling these products and they were really into health.

02:25:38.000 But he kept going downhill and downhill and finally he got to the point where they had to put him in the hospital and he started getting into extreme stages of what they said was Alzheimer's disease and of course our questions were how could a guy this young have Alzheimer's?

02:25:54.000 He eventually died from it within a very short period of time after exhibiting the worst symptoms that show up.

02:26:04.000 Inability to think and remember, can't move, shakiness, can't hardly walk, can't grip your hands, all of that stuff.

02:26:10.000 And he died at St.

02:26:11.000 Francis Hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

02:26:13.000 That's been almost three years ago now.

02:26:16.000 And his wife was notified by one of the doctors at the hospital who was a whistleblower that said, your husband did not die from Alzheimer's.

02:26:27.000 He said that Normally Alzheimer's doesn't kill you anyway.

02:26:30.000 What happens is something else happens to your body.

02:26:32.000 You lose your immune system, your heart goes, whatever.

02:26:34.000 But he died because his brain ceased to function.

02:26:37.000 And when they did the autopsy, what they found was Croutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

02:26:42.000 And she said, what's that?

02:26:43.000 He says it's mad cow disease, but they won't call it that.

02:26:47.000 And it's interesting to note, by the way, that Dr. Alzheimer in 19, I think it was 1905, discovered Alzheimer's disease.

02:26:55.000 As being in the population, which previous to 1900, you'd hardly ever heard of anybody getting Alzheimer's.

02:27:01.000 And by the way, we have the doctor on, we've read the mainstream articles, it's now even the Associated Press, people under 30 getting Alzheimer's has quintupled.

02:27:10.000 It didn't exist before, now it's all over the place.

02:27:12.000 Right, but before the 1800s, we didn't have cancer, we didn't have Alzheimer's before 1900, and now all of a sudden we start discovering these things around the turn of the century and afterwards when we start getting inoculations and more different types of uh... immunization type shots for things so these things

02:27:28.000 crop up but alzheimer was the guy that discovered uh... the alzheimer's

02:27:32.000 disease as having uh... brain malfunctions due to uh... holes in the brain

02:27:37.000 and the two people who assisted him was doctor crutchfield and doctor yacob

02:27:41.000 so that became the brain spongiform disease became crutchfield-yacob disease and that's what they called it in humans

02:27:47.000 but in animals they called it uh... other things depending on what animal it was

02:27:51.000 You know, pigs have a form of it, and I used to have the list in front of me.

02:27:54.000 I don't have it right now, but you can look it up.

02:27:57.000 Each animal has this type of disease here recently that you can actually find in the population of that livestock, and what they've done is the British, of course, I had it really bad long before we showed it being here, even though it had been here for a while in the elk herd, and then finally into the cow herd. 0.99

02:28:14.000 And they found out that what it was, it was feeding animal parts back to animals.

02:28:22.000 And now I've got horses, I've got chickens here, and I read the feed bags.

02:28:26.000 And when we first got the animals, I started looking at feed bags, and I found out what companies produced feed made from rendered animal parts Uh, put back into pellet form and fed back to the animals, which they're not supposed to eat that.

02:28:37.000 They're designed to be herbivores and not, uh, not eat protein, not eat, uh, the, uh, uh, different types of rendered animal parts.

02:28:44.000 Cows aren't supposed to eat that. 1.00

02:28:45.000 You start feeding them something they're not supposed to have, bad things happen, and this is what's happening.

02:28:48.000 And now we've had a massive cover-up.

02:28:51.000 Uh, Jack McClam comments on this.

02:28:54.000 Well, you know, for ten years I toured with the Preparedness Expos and one of my bright spots was meeting and speaking along with Lenny Horowitz, Dr. Lenny Horowitz.

02:29:08.000 And he's done some of the best research in some of the production of these Bioweapons that I would call them now 0.94

02:29:17.000 He called him other things in Fort Detrick, Maryland and other places to work along with the internationalists to

02:29:24.000 destroy the small farming and ranching in America and do do amazing

02:29:29.000 things to push this Collapse over the American system, and so you know I have a

02:29:36.000 lot to say about these things We'll talk about it when we get back, then.

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02:35:24.000 That's all we're doing is widening their perspective.

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02:36:25.000 Going back to Jack McClam and Craig Roberts.

02:36:29.000 Exactly, Jack.

02:36:30.000 They create the crisis.

02:36:32.000 They allow it to take place.

02:36:33.000 Then there's solution.

02:36:34.000 I have it today.

02:36:36.000 They want to put microchips by law on all the cattle.

02:36:39.000 They want to have federal enforcers in all your farms and ranches. 1.00

02:36:43.000 Meanwhile, big agribusiness, it's like Tyson Chicken.

02:36:46.000 They can have 1,300 violations at one plant.

02:36:49.000 Their competitor has two and gets shut down.

02:36:52.000 Nothing happens to them.

02:36:54.000 That's what I see coming out of this.

02:36:55.000 What do you see happening, Jack?

02:36:57.000 Brother, that's absolutely correct.

02:36:59.000 I've been blessed over 20 years now of knowing some of the Most knowledgeable doctors in the country, medical personnel, you guys know them too, Dr. Stan Monteith and Dr., like I said, Lenny Horowitz and many others who have pinpointed the fact that there is a biological war going on on the American people and has been for a long time using biological and chemical weapons on our people.

02:37:28.000 And they use it for everything.

02:37:30.000 They use it to strike fear.

02:37:33.000 In the minds of all Americans, they're using it to take over and destroy the small farms and ranches and turn them over to the agribusinesses, which are the international elite.

02:37:43.000 And these are soft kill weapons that they can misdiagnose, correct, Craig?

02:37:48.000 Absolutely.

02:37:49.000 And you know, it's absolutely incredible that even when we, locally, get something diagnosed, You know, you can take just about anything that's cropped up in this country that got headlines, such as Legionnaire's disease and of course SARS and all of this.

02:38:06.000 Anytime that they get this stuff, it becomes like the disease of the week and then it goes away under the carpet.

02:38:11.000 Don't worry about it anymore.

02:38:13.000 But it has an impact on the population and won't quit.

02:38:16.000 When we had this latest outbreak of flu, I was doing a radio talk show in Fayetteville, Arkansas, and a guy called in.

02:38:23.000 He worked at the local hospital and he said that they've reported three flu deaths In Arkansas, he said, we had nine in our hospital alone in the last two weeks.

02:38:31.000 So a lot of this stuff goes underreported for various reasons, of course.

02:38:36.000 But one thing that I always suspect, because I always look at the other side of the door anymore.

02:38:41.000 I look in the shadows to see what the real truth is.

02:38:44.000 and i always suspect that i wonder how much uh... especially after writing the medusa

02:38:49.000 file with all of the research we did in all the investigations we did at the

02:38:52.000 government uh... conspiracies and cover-ups releasing stuff into the

02:38:56.000 population on purpose to see what it would do or

02:38:59.000 to reduce the population is al gore is is mentioned uh... then how much of this really gets put out here is

02:39:05.000 allowed to do its damage first before somebody discovers it and it actually gets on

02:39:09.000 the news before it's covered up

02:39:11.000 uh... and how much of this stuff happens in your local town that you know about

02:39:14.000 and the locals know about but it never goes uphill and gets reported in the

02:39:19.000 Well, that's the point I've made, is we have Project Shad up until 85, nerve-gassing troops and killing them, and then no one is charged because they were quote, following orders.

02:39:27.000 I mean, we have a ruthless group of criminals running things, and Jack McClam, Craig Roberts, I want to briefly, and then I want to get into the militarization of police and some calls.

02:39:36.000 Your predictions for the next year, What you see happening, and also I want to talk about the nature of evil, what the New World Order really is.

02:39:46.000 Go ahead, Jack.

02:39:47.000 Okay, brother.

02:39:48.000 Well, our police association here, our main concern is that acts of terrorism used on the American people works miracles for the internationalists. 1.00

02:40:01.000 So we see in this next year, horrible acts of terrorism are going to be used on the American people.

02:40:08.000 For several reasons.

02:40:10.000 One is to get them to acquiesce to giving up the rest of their rights and to allow the government to finish setting up this totalitarian martial law system here in America.

02:40:22.000 And we definitely believe that the people, unless we can continue and get the listeners out there to Just get massive amounts of our publications and tapes and make copies of them.

02:40:35.000 Get them out.

02:40:36.000 Start this geometric progression.

02:40:38.000 The American people are going to beg, actually not beg, we've decided they're going to demand martial law when this terrorism starts again.

02:40:47.000 Well, that's because they've already put it in the back of their mind that the solution is martial law when it happens.

02:40:52.000 They say it every day.

02:40:54.000 Then folks think it's their own idea later.

02:40:56.000 I mean, that's a classic tactic, Colonel, is it not?

02:40:59.000 To plant a solution there a few months, a few years before?

02:41:03.000 Oh yeah, and what they'll do is they'll dream up problems to say, this is what we're starting to look at right now.

02:41:09.000 We think this might happen, so therefore we're going to pass laws in advance to make sure it doesn't happen for your own protection.

02:41:15.000 And some of my predictions on this, I think that what we're going to have is reductions in the ability of the American people to travel about.

02:41:22.000 We're going to be more confined to where we live.

02:41:25.000 We may end up with internal passports like the Russians had. 0.96

02:41:27.000 We've already been dissuaded from flying at the airports because we're treated like criminals.

02:41:31.000 We're going to have registration of gun owners.

02:41:34.000 You know, they say, well, we can't register firearms because of a couple of federal laws, but there's nothing to say they can't issue you a federal permit to buy a gun or to own a gun.

02:41:44.000 Well, on top of this, showing it's all a fraud, Bush is going to, anybody who can get here will be legalized instantly.

02:41:52.000 Oh yeah, you know, they're supplying the enemy and they're cutting down on the ability of us to defend ourselves against the enemy, which is basically a recipe for disaster.

02:42:01.000 They're going to have probably restrictions on the amount of ammo you can buy or even have on your premises.

02:42:06.000 They'll start controlling food purchases because they'll do it two ways.

02:42:10.000 One, the amount and rationing due to whatever reason that the emergencies that will come up.

02:42:14.000 And the other is because it's contaminated.

02:42:15.000 You know, you've got to have it inspected and so on.

02:42:19.000 They'll have cross-deputization of agencies more than they do now.

02:42:23.000 In other words, the local sheriff and his deputies will be cross-deputized with the police from the towns within that county and they'll be cross-deputized with federal agencies and task forces so that eventually everybody will will come under the umbrella of homeland security

02:42:37.000 As an anti-terrorist task force, or anti-terrorist organization.

02:42:40.000 We're seeing this happen more and more every day right now.

02:42:42.000 Well first they munialize with the MJTF, federally funded.

02:42:45.000 Then they take that Lego set and plug it into the bigger one.

02:42:48.000 And since Jack made this prediction of more terror, I agree with that.

02:42:52.000 William Sapphire, the Neocon Chieftain in the New York Times today said, this is a prediction, the October surprise, I'm reading from him, affecting our election will be the capture of Bin Laden in Yemen, The daring escape of Saddam, a major terror attack in the U.S., finding a buried bag of anthrax in Tikrit.

02:43:11.000 Gentleman comments.

02:43:13.000 Well, I think, yeah, that's a real Easter basket full of colored eggs right there. 0.92

02:43:20.000 Yeah, you know, there's no telling what they can crank up.

02:43:23.000 It's absolutely incredible.

02:43:25.000 uh... the power that they've got to uh... you know i can take an a mob ring 0.98

02:43:29.000 noriega here try a foreign uh... leader is a is a uh... is a drug lord

02:43:33.000 without uh... 0.99

02:43:34.000 statewide gays partner was george herbert walker bush at the other end of 0.75

02:43:38.000 the of the route but uh...

02:43:40.000 uh... you know we're gonna put this guy in jail and i want to talk to him

02:43:42.000 because we don't want him to say what really happened and what

02:43:45.000 What's scary about Sapphire is last year they said, oh, he's got such a crystal ball, he predicted 9-11 with precision.

02:43:52.000 Well, yeah, the guy's inside all this.

02:43:55.000 Well, he's an outlet.

02:43:57.000 You know, he's a mouthpiece.

02:43:58.000 I mean, what can you say?

02:44:01.000 Wow.

02:44:02.000 We're going to have a total federalization of local police under these same rubrics here and also watch for The elimination of the election of the county sheriff.

02:44:13.000 They're working very hard on this right now.

02:44:16.000 One-third of the sheriffs across the country are now appointed by those more intelligent than the American people under this home rule situation where they're merging the police departments together to save tax dollars.

02:44:30.000 The people fall for that every time.

02:44:32.000 But elimination of the voting in of the county sheriff is big on their agenda because in certain areas like our place here and other places, the county sheriff can stop the federal Gestapo from coming into the county or coming into his federal compliance office and look at their paperwork and ask them what they're going to do.

02:44:52.000 Hey, Craig, do you want to run for sheriff?

02:44:57.000 Well, you know, they keep telling me I need to do that down here, but the problem is, that's a real job, and I had one once and didn't like it, you know, so... You know, it's one of those, you've got to get up in the morning and be there by 8 o'clock and it's 20 miles away, so I don't know.

02:45:08.000 They pretty much let me run my little corner of the county down here the way I see fit, because no one comes down here unless they can play a banjo and they're not married to their cousin anyway, you know?

02:45:16.000 Well, listen, Craig, now don't forget, you know, the government will give you a Apache helicopter and they'll pick you up right there at your home and whip you over those 20 miles Won't take you any time at all, and you can fly around in that Apache, supervising the people.

02:45:30.000 You talked me into it, I guess I'll run.

02:45:32.000 Well, yeah, he flies those.

02:45:34.000 We got a bunch of callers here, but I want to get a comment from both of you.

02:45:38.000 Eberhardt, I mean, I cannot make a big enough deal of this.

02:45:41.000 The head of NORTHCOM says, well, the Pentagon's watching you, we're going to have troops on the streets, and martial law's the next step, and we're going to be involved in your life, and Franks is off saying this.

02:45:51.000 Your take, gentlemen, on them openly, openly is talking about this now.

02:45:57.000 Well, they're making it sound good for the people.

02:45:59.000 The government's here to help you.

02:46:01.000 And that's what they're talking about.

02:46:02.000 And the American people are realizing that this is a dangerous world because there's these biologicals.

02:46:08.000 People are dying.

02:46:09.000 Mad cows are dying and everything.

02:46:11.000 And people are getting so scared and so in fear.

02:46:14.000 That they almost like to hear our representatives telling them how they're going to protect us and take care of us.

02:46:20.000 And that's the definition of terrorism, is scaring somebody so they'll go along with your political policy, and that's a big question.

02:46:26.000 Why did they just now announce that Mad Cow's here, when they've known it's been here for over a decade?

02:46:32.000 Well, I think right now, you know, what they're doing is they're brickpiling.

02:46:36.000 Now, an intelligence work we call brickpiling, or PSYOP work you call brickpiling, is when

02:46:42.000 you lay one brick at a time, but you do it faster than the people can realize a wall's

02:46:46.000 being built.

02:46:47.000 You start rapid-firing information at people, and you keep them so far behind the power

02:46:51.000 curve that they can't understand what's going on.

02:46:55.000 They never figure it out until it's too late.

02:46:57.000 And what you do is you start passing these laws, and all your neighbors are going, well,

02:47:01.000 gee, they're doing everything they can.

02:47:02.000 We just need to support them passing more laws.

02:47:05.000 And yeah, we have to give up some rights, and we have to have some more restrictions,

02:47:07.000 but it's a different world today than it was in the 1950s or last year or whatever.

02:47:12.000 And so people are talked into this, and you've got all the talking heads of mainstream media.

02:47:17.000 Telling us, you know, this is what has to be done.

02:47:21.000 It's too little, it's maybe too late, but it's the best we can do today.

02:47:23.000 So it's a bunch of fast-talking carnival hucksters until our head spins.

02:47:27.000 Jack McClam comments on this.

02:47:29.000 Well, Craig's got it 100% right there.

02:47:32.000 It's just a piling on, a piling on to create so much fear and consternation that the people are immobilized by fear.

02:47:41.000 And they are going to depend 100% on their government coming in to save us.

02:47:46.000 We've already had a lot of success.

02:47:47.000 It's just not fast enough.

02:47:48.000 Let's take calls.

02:47:49.000 Up first is Rodney in Connecticut.

02:47:51.000 listeners out there will do a masterful job of getting publications and tapes and duplicating

02:47:56.000 them and get them out by the hundreds as fast as they can because a geometric progression

02:48:01.000 can spread very rapidly and we hope to see a lot of that happen.

02:48:04.000 We've already had a lot of success.

02:48:05.000 We've already had a lot of success.

02:48:06.000 It's just not fast enough.

02:48:09.000 Let's take calls.

02:48:10.000 Up first is Rodney in Connecticut.

02:48:13.000 Rodney, go ahead.

02:48:14.000 Hi, Alex.

02:48:15.000 Thanks for taking my call today.

02:48:17.000 Can you hear me?

02:48:19.000 Yes, I can. Go ahead.

02:48:20.000 Yes, that bill that you were, that immigration bill, do you have the number of that bill and when do you think it might

02:48:28.000 be implemented?

02:48:30.000 Okay, well they've got John McCain's bill introduced.

02:48:38.000 Bush is supporting the bill.

02:48:40.000 If you get here, you're legalized for three years automatically.

02:48:44.000 I don't have the bill in front of me.

02:48:45.000 I covered it two weeks ago.

02:48:47.000 But that's been big news everywhere.

02:48:51.000 So has it been brought up Well, you know, they did this once before.

02:49:02.000 on bush saying if you get here you're legal well you know they did it once

02:49:06.000 before uh... lately it wasn't that what two three years ago they

02:49:10.000 had that mass uh... deal one to the clinton's

02:49:13.000 that uh... you know if you're here you're good to go But this is complete and unlimited.

02:49:17.000 If you ever get here, you're good to go.

02:49:19.000 And that's the same reason they haven't sealed off the southern border.

02:49:23.000 That's the same reason that they allow anybody to get into this country. 0.98

02:49:26.000 I mean, here we're supposed to be fighting terror sneaking into the country, and yet we keep the doors open and our eyes closed. 0.87

02:49:31.000 It's ludicrous.

02:49:32.000 It's because they want disaster.

02:49:33.000 But we've got helicopters flying around aiming machine guns at people.

02:49:36.000 Yeah, they want a disaster to occur so that they can step in with UN forces.

02:49:40.000 I mean, that's the bottom line.

02:49:41.000 We talked about this ten years ago and everybody laughed and said, that could never happen here.

02:49:45.000 We did army exercises on it five years ago, that this is what we would do if we didn't have enough troops to defend.

02:49:51.000 And now they've announced, if our troops are tied down in the war on terror, we'll use, quote, foreign assets.

02:49:56.000 That's what General Barry McCaffrey told The Cascade Class 11 worked that about four years ago, and they have done it.

02:50:04.000 They've already brought in foreign troops and used them in the skies over America right after 9-11, and even had them ready to come in on the ground if they needed them.

02:50:12.000 Yeah, thanks Rodney.

02:50:14.000 One more thing, Alex.

02:50:16.000 If they do do that, is that going to mean people can fly in on the airlines and not have to be checked?

02:50:24.000 Basically, according to the Miami Herald, they have a thing called acing.

02:50:28.000 And when you come in from a third world country, you just hold your papers up and walk by.

02:50:33.000 See, this is all about training you to be a slave.

02:50:35.000 So yes, thanks for the call.

02:50:36.000 Thank you very much.

02:50:36.000 We're going to come back and jam Chris, Ian, and Marcello in real quick with our two guests who I've been so honored to have with us here in the final show of 2003.

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02:53:57.000 Alright folks.

02:54:05.000 We have covered so much in the last two hours and 54 minutes.

02:54:10.000 And it's always great to have Colonel Roberts and Jack McClam on the show.

02:54:14.000 And God bless you both, gentlemen, for your fine work.

02:54:18.000 Let's cram a few more calls in here quickly.

02:54:21.000 Chris in Kentucky, you're on the air.

02:54:23.000 Go ahead.

02:54:26.000 Go ahead, Chris.

02:54:28.000 Yes, am I on the air now?

02:54:29.000 You sure are.

02:54:30.000 Okay, thank you very much.

02:54:31.000 Well tonight, you know, it's going to be all this securities coming out here tonight about just roadblocks and all this and also looking for suspicious activity.

02:54:40.000 I am so sick and tired of these mainstream news conditioning everybody out here, saying how good this is.

02:54:46.000 So I guess Hitler was evil, that's bad. 0.66

02:54:49.000 But the torture they want to do to us, search our vehicles without a fourth amendment, do that kind of style is good here. 1.00

02:54:53.000 I mean, it's just getting so out of hand out here.

02:54:56.000 I've been reaching a lot of people out here.

02:54:58.000 You do have some listeners, the people I've talked to.

02:55:00.000 I hope you, Kentucky listeners out there, get active and keep going with this because since 9-11, I have seen such behavioral problems with the police, not that they're bad, but I have seen people get searched for no reason in public parks, harassed, Anything that looks like you're a terrorist or you're with Al Qaeda.

02:55:19.000 Chris, great points.

02:55:20.000 Thanks for the call.

02:55:21.000 There's a new thing about world almanacs, farmers' almanacs, maps in your car, and the feds in the article yesterday said, yeah, well, we're doing this to give police an excuse to search people and take them in.

02:55:33.000 I mean, they're now admitting while they're doing it, Craig and Jack.

02:55:37.000 Yeah.

02:55:38.000 Oh, it's incredible.

02:55:39.000 You know, I mean, what is terrorist material?

02:55:41.000 It's anything they say it is now.

02:55:43.000 I mean, a can of beans can be terrorist material because you might hit somebody in the head with it, you know?

02:55:48.000 And what is a terrorist, Craig?

02:55:50.000 They're saying anybody they say is a terrorist, too, right?

02:55:53.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:55:54.000 See, what they've done is they've created a brandy and iron that one size fits all.

02:55:58.000 Well, did you hear they're going after Limbaugh with the Patriot Act? 1.00

02:56:04.000 Sometimes people will wake up when they do such ridiculously stupid things as that that's so outrageously asinine. 1.00

02:56:10.000 It's like going to the carnival and watching all the clowns get out of the car, you know? 1.00

02:56:16.000 I mean, how far can you go before you step on your own foot and shoot yourself in the toe?

02:56:21.000 Jack, you got a comment about the evil almanacs? 0.65

02:56:24.000 Well, it's just more of the same.

02:56:27.000 Total control of the population, and the people love it so.

02:56:31.000 You know, the people are just digging it because our good Christian president is protecting us from all these evils.

02:56:38.000 I wanted to say, too, that Captain Darryl Eberhardt wrote to us and talked about, we put his article in our latest Ain't About Police Military newsletter on the coming national draft.

02:56:48.000 And I believe that this could very well happen in the next year, because Bush didn't expect to be bogged down in Iraq.

02:56:55.000 He thought he'd be on to crush Iran and Syria next, and take over the oil and so forth, and those nations. 1.00

02:57:06.000 And now he's bogged down and the world won't come to help him because they don't want to get their men and women shot up in this war for oil and taking over these natural resources because the Bush crime family probably won't share it.

02:57:19.000 So Captain Darryl Eberhardt makes the good case that we will probably see a national draft and it could be a universal draft.

02:57:27.000 Ron Paul said that last week.

02:57:28.000 One final caller of the year.

02:57:31.000 Let's talk to Ian in Canada.

02:57:32.000 Real quick Ian.

02:57:35.000 Oh, Alex, what an honor.

02:57:36.000 Do you think that the media announced mad cow disease more than three decades ago?

02:57:42.000 And by that I mean that Michael Crichton, who started as a research doctor in microbiology, wrote a book over 30 years ago called The Andromeda Strain, and it was quickly made into a movie.

02:57:53.000 He still provides ideas to Hollywood, script ideas.

02:57:57.000 In that book, The Andromeda Strain, he posited A crystalline microbe, albeit fictional, that came from an extraterrestrial source, that infected victims on Earth and drove them mad.

02:58:12.000 Isn't that precisely the same configuration and characteristic of the Preon?

02:58:17.000 It's amazing, and Crichton's one of their chief thinkers.

02:58:19.000 Final words, Greg Roberts, Jack McClam, real quick.

02:58:23.000 RifleWarrior.com, they've got four or five good articles there on the Mad Cow, go over there and check it out.

02:58:28.000 RifleWarrior.com.

02:58:29.000 Alright, thank you sir, have a good New Year.

02:58:32.000 Greg Roberts, final comments.

02:58:33.000 I mean, Jack McClam.

02:58:36.000 Be strong and courageous.

02:58:38.000 Do not tremble or be dismayed, for the Lord is always with you.

02:58:41.000 Go to police and military against the New World Order. 0.60

02:58:44.000 We're out of time!

02:58:45.000 See you next year!

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Alex Jones Show - December 31, 2003

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