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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Big Thursday Show!

00:00:28.000 Lined up for you, it is the 12th day of February 2004.

00:00:36.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:38.000 In about 30 minutes, we've got the New York Bill of Rights Defense Committee coming on the show.

00:00:46.000 Talk about New York under citizen pressure.

00:00:48.000 The city, of course, supported the Patriot Act until the citizens got involved and exposed what was in it.

00:00:54.000 Coming on, talk about New York throwing it out on Monday, as did St.

00:00:59.000 Paul, one of the twin cities up in Minnesota.

00:01:03.000 And several more towns and cities in the last three days have also thrown out the Patriot Act.

00:01:08.000 I haven't counted up how many cities have now thrown it out in six months or so.

00:01:14.000 Six months ago it was 400 plus cities and multiple states.

00:01:19.000 And you notice that news item has really disappeared now as this march continues with conservatives and liberals waking up to the Bill of Rights culture and trying to reenact it.

00:01:32.000 Also in the second hour, BBC Newsnight investigative reporter, best-selling New York Times best-selling author, Greg Palast will be on the show, and he exposes Al Gore, George Bush, all of them.

00:01:46.000 He's been reporting, you've heard about the Pakistan Arms Bazaar, well he reported before that how the U.S.

00:01:52.000 government was helping arm Pakistan and shutting down this story.

00:01:57.000 That's right, as usual, arming the enemies so they can proliferate the weapons and destabilize the world, and they can give us the New World Order as the solution to keep us all safe.

00:02:10.000 What do radical racist Mexicans Osama Bin Laden and Bush have in common? 0.99

00:02:15.000 They all hate America. 0.99

00:02:16.000 Remember on Monday we talked about That game last week, one of the Olympic qualifying games, where the U.S.

00:02:26.000 won and before the game, the Mexicans were booing the Star-Spangled Banner in Mexico and then chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama.

00:02:36.000 Well, at an even bigger tournament in Guadalajara, yesterday, Now, guess what happened?

00:02:45.000 This was the Associated Press, Mexicans scream Osama as U.S.

00:02:49.000 Olympic team loses, and they also booed the Star Spangled Banner yet again.

00:02:57.000 So, we were predicting, not hard to predict it, that that would happen again, and it's happened yet again.

00:03:02.000 And these are the people that Bush wants to legalize, he wants to get rid of the border, But he wants to spy on the American people and outsource our jobs and it's amazing.

00:03:13.000 So, more on that coming up.

00:03:16.000 Walker pledges Utah will not reconnect with the Matrix system.

00:03:20.000 Salt Lake City Tribune, the Matrix tracking grid.

00:03:22.000 Some victories against it for now.

00:03:25.000 Bush report from the Seattle Times.

00:03:29.000 Bush report, sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.

00:03:33.000 That's right.

00:03:36.000 News analysis series of weird crimes upsets many Germans.

00:03:40.000 We're going to do some of the stuff happening in Germany.

00:03:42.000 Cross-border church visit cost man $10,000.

00:03:45.000 That's because he's an American citizen.

00:03:48.000 75,000 people have AIDS in New York City, according to the United Press International.

00:03:56.000 GAO, Pentagon, pays corporate tax evaders.

00:04:02.000 The big defense contractors owe $3 billion in unpaid taxes, but this goes on for decades and no one's ever charged.

00:04:09.000 If you don't pay your taxes, look out!

00:04:12.000 They're above the law.

00:04:13.000 I also report SLAM's Airline Computer Screening System, or CAPS2, which is really the National ID Card scoring or labeling of Americans.

00:04:23.000 FSB or KGB were warned about Moscow Metro Blast.

00:04:29.000 As usual, folks, they've been involved in this.

00:04:32.000 Police respond to federal lawsuit in drug suite.

00:04:35.000 Remember Goose Creek with the dogs attacking the children and the police having everyone put their hands behind their back for the drug search?

00:04:41.000 Well, they say that's a good thing they did.

00:04:43.000 Deputy charged with stealing cash from motorists.

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00:07:59.000 Big Brother. Mainstream Media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:23.000 New York City becomes the largest city in the U.S.

00:08:28.000 to oppose the imprisonment of civil liberties in the name of national security.

00:08:33.000 So has St.

00:08:34.000 Paul, Minnesota.

00:08:36.000 In many other towns and cities this week we have folks from the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign joining us in about 25 minutes here on the air.

00:08:46.000 Then Greg Powless with the BBC, also New York Times best-selling author.

00:08:51.000 Talk about how our government is arming and propping up Pakistan and covering up the fact that they've armed our supposed enemies. 0.99

00:08:59.000 So, you don't want to miss these interviews.

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00:09:04.000 Let me dive straight into the news.

00:09:09.000 In the last segment I mentioned that I'm sure you've all heard that last week the U.S.

00:09:15.000 soccer team in qualifying matches beat the Mexicans in Mexico.

00:09:21.000 They were booing the Star-Spangled Banner, chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama. 1.00

00:09:27.000 They're idiots and don't know he's a CIA asset and works for the Globalist. 1.00

00:09:31.000 And I just pointed out that Bush, Bin Laden, and racist Mexicans, those that are racist, have one big thing in common. 1.00

00:09:37.000 They hate America. 0.98

00:09:39.000 And there were predictions that, with an even bigger qualifying match that had tens of thousands of fans attending, that they would boo again and chant Osama and the Associated Press says that exactly that happened.

00:09:54.000 Boo's nearly drowned out the Star-Spangled Banner. 0.67

00:09:57.000 As Mexicans chanted, Osama, Osama, Osama, as Mexico eliminated the United States in Olympic Men's Soccer qualifying, Tuesday night in Guadalajara, a loud anti-American crowd hollered as Mexico beat the United States 4-0 Tuesday night in the Under-23 Tournament, claiming a berth in the Athens Olympics, the Associated Press reported.

00:10:17.000 Citizens of the problem-plagued country, as well as millions of illegal aliens in America, are still in a smit about their 2-0 defeat to the United States in the second round of 2002 World Cup. 0.95

00:10:29.000 What type of sickos?

00:10:31.000 I mean, nobody in the past... We'd have different matches against the Russians during the Cold War. 0.90

00:10:38.000 They wouldn't boo our national anthem.

00:10:40.000 We wouldn't boo theirs.

00:10:42.000 Nobody acts like this. 0.98

00:10:46.000 I mean, this is incredible, number one, to boo during a national anthem, but that's nothing compared to chanting, Usama, Usama, Usama, who, who, these ignorant people in Mexico, just like the American people still believe, carried out the attacks. 0.99

00:10:59.000 He's a CIA asset, but he is evil. 0.88

00:11:02.000 The point is, they think he did all this, so they're cheering the murder of 2,800 and something people. 0.99

00:11:08.000 That is disgusting! 0.99

00:11:13.000 I'm telling you folks, Mexico hates our guts. 1.00

00:11:15.000 And a lot of people from Mexico don't buy into it, but a lot of them do. 1.00

00:11:19.000 And our government's helping fund and finance it.

00:11:21.000 And this is just a window into the minds of these people.

00:11:25.000 And shame on them. 0.57

00:11:27.000 That's disgusting behavior.

00:11:31.000 But don't worry, Bush is with Mexico, getting rid of the borders, spying on Americans, taking away our rights, but oh, giving more rights to all these illegals. 0.98

00:11:39.000 The establishment loves it.

00:11:41.000 Again, the terrorists attacked us because they had our freedom.

00:11:44.000 Military-Industrial Complex attacked us because they wanted to have a pretext to take our freedoms.

00:11:49.000 And that's exactly what they've done!

00:11:50.000 So I guess, Bush, you gave Bin Laden what he wanted, didn't you?

00:11:54.000 What you wanted.

00:11:56.000 That dark cult of evil you talked about that feeds off human suffering.

00:11:59.000 No one knows the power of evil.

00:12:02.000 It was a weird speech he gave at the Pentagon.

00:12:02.000 Like goodness!

00:12:05.000 I have that in, uh, Road to Tyranny.

00:12:09.000 Walker pledges Utah will not Reconnect with the Matrix, Salt Lake City Tribune, and it's a total lie.

00:12:16.000 Let's read it.

00:12:18.000 Governor Walker pledged through her Chief of Staff that Utah will not reconnect with a controversial anti-terrorism program using billions of government records on citizens without specific approval from the legislature.

00:12:32.000 State Chief Gary Doxey said he hopes the vow persuades lawmakers not to rush to permanently sever Utah's participation in Matrix during the current legislative session before a newly appointed oversight committee has a chance to thoroughly investigate the project.

00:12:49.000 Now let me just briefly, because I've got a bunch of news, explain this in 60 seconds.

00:12:54.000 TIPS, WAVE, SAVE, TOTAL INFORMATION, MATRIX, all of this is different names for programs of the NSA and its master program called ECHELON.

00:13:09.000 And so you protest, you demonstrate against Matrix, Total Information Awareness, TIPS, and they go, OK, we canceled it.

00:13:16.000 And then they will actually increase the funding and give it some new name.

00:13:20.000 And you start fighting that new name, and they come back.

00:13:23.000 Look, all the states have been collecting every piece of data about you you can imagine, buying it from private firms.

00:13:30.000 Many firms, like Walmart and others, just give it to the feds.

00:13:33.000 Bookstores, everything.

00:13:34.000 It's been going in there for at least 15 years.

00:13:39.000 At least 15 years.

00:13:43.000 Probably longer.

00:13:47.000 And so the governor says, oh no, don't pass a law banning this in the states.

00:13:50.000 They can't have a law saying it's illegal because then they'll have to break the law to keep it going.

00:13:54.000 They just want to say, okay, we won't do the matrix and then not have a law passed and just change the name.

00:14:02.000 So, just so you know, that's what they do.

00:14:04.000 You know, we think we have all these victories and we would have victories if we'd fallen through.

00:14:10.000 But instead we take the form of victory instead of the substance of victory.

00:14:17.000 Bush reports sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.

00:14:21.000 and this is from the Seattle Times.

00:14:24.000 The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S.

00:14:30.000 economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said yesterday.

00:14:37.000 That's real interesting.

00:14:39.000 I thought they said NAFTA and GATT would cause milk and honey.

00:14:42.000 That was, what, 94's?

00:14:44.000 10 years ago!

00:14:45.000 In fact, the reenactment of NAFTA is coming up this year.

00:14:49.000 And they are going to expand it under free trade area of the Americas.

00:14:54.000 And so it's a wonderful thing.

00:14:55.000 I mean, they're even taking the service jobs.

00:14:57.000 They'll bring in, pack a house full of illegals, And then they have one power bill, one water bill to pay, and they're not on the grid, they're not paying taxes, and then citizens get displaced. 0.99

00:15:11.000 Even our service economy is shutting down.

00:15:14.000 By the way, new numbers out, there's actually more unemployment, more layoffs, but the average person says, well, the news says everything's wonderful.

00:15:23.000 Well, here's my economic numbers for you.

00:15:25.000 Three years ago, you couldn't go anywhere from six in the morning till 7, 8 o'clock at night without being in traffic for over an hour.

00:15:32.000 I can drive anywhere I want even in prime time traffic in 35, 40 minutes.

00:15:38.000 About a third of the houses I see are up for sale.

00:15:41.000 Most people I know are out of work.

00:15:44.000 Just come on.

00:15:46.000 Bush report, sending jobs overseas helps U.S.

00:15:49.000 The embrace of foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S.

00:15:53.000 job losses in recent years, has become an issue in the 2004 elections, as contained in the President's annual report to Congress on the U.S.

00:16:00.000 economy.

00:16:01.000 Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade, said N. Gregory Mancou, Chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

00:16:08.000 And he says, it's great!

00:16:10.000 This is very good!

00:16:11.000 Well, then you're going to get more of this wonderfulness then.

00:16:15.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha! 0.90

00:16:17.000 That's so sick!

00:16:20.000 Boy, I just don't know where to start here.

00:16:25.000 Cross-border church visit cost man $10,000.

00:16:29.000 Reuters, a man, a Catholic living up in Canada, I mean up in Maine on the border with Canada would drive across a little river there every Sunday and multiple times weekly to attend his church service and they put up a fence there now And they just locked the gate.

00:16:50.000 The road was just blocked on Sunday, so he drove around it, and he's been given a $10,000 fine for breaching it.

00:16:57.000 But illegal aliens?

00:16:58.000 Hey, you can commit murder and you get thrown out of jail.

00:17:01.000 It's just very interesting to see that happening.

00:17:04.000 They really clamped down that northern border to get out. 0.99

00:17:08.000 I've talked to folks that have been going in and out of Canada on business.

00:17:10.000 Getting out of the country is hard.

00:17:11.000 Getting in?

00:17:13.000 Absolute piece of cake.

00:17:16.000 By the way, the southern border is getting like that.

00:17:18.000 Hard to get out.

00:17:19.000 Oh, easier than ever to get in.

00:17:23.000 That's your freedom.

00:17:25.000 Continuing here, 75,000 have HIV AIDS in New York City.

00:17:29.000 UPI, more than 75,000 people in New York City are known to be living with AIDS and are infected with the virus that causes the disease, health researchers reported.

00:17:37.000 That's where the government first in the US put HIV virus in hepatitis and other shots.

00:17:43.000 They got caught doing that.

00:17:44.000 We have the official federal documents on that.

00:17:48.000 Very serious situation.

00:17:50.000 Some countries in Africa, 45% of the population have it.

00:17:54.000 And by the way, there was a big BBC article a year ago going, well, people who've never had sex and whose parents don't have it, have it, and then they found it in some of the needles and they don't know how it got there.

00:18:07.000 GAO, Pentagon, pays corporate tax evaders, UPI, about 27,100 Defense Department contractors owe the federal government more than $3 billion in unpaid taxes, but the Pentagon continues to hire and pay them with taxpayer money.

00:18:20.000 A congressional investigation is found.

00:18:24.000 No one's being prosecuted.

00:18:26.000 You can steal billions, and there's no problem.

00:18:29.000 But if you don't fill out a tax form just right, or they lose your tax form, or they just decide they want to randomly audit you, bye-bye for you.

00:18:38.000 Bye-bye, baby.

00:18:40.000 No judge, no jury.

00:18:41.000 Some prison time.

00:18:43.000 Report slams airline computer screening and not a Press International.

00:18:47.000 Congressional Report to the Publisher Friday slams the planning for a controversial new computer screening system designed to identify potential terrorists among airline passengers, saying it has failed a series of tests set by lawmakers.

00:19:01.000 Folks, the Caps 2 system is the new national ID card rating system.

00:19:06.000 On your driver's license or ID card, they're going to have what you're rated as.

00:19:10.000 According to credit, marriage, misdemeanors, and money in the bank.

00:19:10.000 You understand?

00:19:15.000 It's all there.

00:19:16.000 Matrix system is one of the collection suckers, you know, down at the bottom of the tentacles.

00:19:24.000 Key activities in the development of the system have been delayed.

00:19:26.000 Transportation Security Administration has not yet completed information systems planning activities.

00:19:31.000 Says the draft summer report.

00:19:32.000 The damning report may prevent funds of the system, known as the acronym CAPS II for Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System Phase II, from passing Congress.

00:19:43.000 So Congress isn't worried about the violation of freedom and categorizing Americans.

00:19:48.000 They're just worried it isn't being put in quick enough.

00:19:52.000 A lot more coming up.

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00:24:08.000 now it's jones on the gcm radio network all right my friend your calls are coming up and i guess

00:24:30.000 new york city all rights defense campaign thrown out the patriot act

00:24:35.000 And Greg Powell's from the BBC.

00:24:39.000 Andrew and George and Alan and Brock, we'll get to your calls here in a few minutes.

00:24:43.000 FSB were warned about Moscow Metro Blast.

00:24:46.000 This is out of the Gazette, Moscow Gazette.

00:24:52.000 A man who showed up at the Russian Embassy in Tbilisi a day before the attack on the Moscow Metro warned that a huge terrorist attack would be carried out in the Russian capital and in Stropol by people he had met in person.

00:25:06.000 This information was communicated earlier this week by the Georgian security minister, but the FSB did nothing.

00:25:14.000 Folks, the FSB was caught in 99 planting explosives in a fourth apartment building and we've got all that posted and done a bunch of shows on it and got all the mainstream news articles at PrisonPlanet.com in the Russian Terror section and look at who stands to gain from that.

00:25:32.000 The Chechens have said publicly, why would we blow anything up?

00:25:35.000 Why would we come to Moscow and bomb you so then you get mad and come attack us?

00:25:39.000 We're not doing it!

00:25:39.000 This is incredible!

00:25:41.000 We have no reason to do this!

00:25:44.000 But it's not just common sense, it's the evidence of who's done it in the past.

00:25:48.000 By the way, that candidate running against Putin, who disappeared last week, showed up yesterday in a satellite of Russia and said that he had gone into hiding because he thought that Putin was after him.

00:25:59.000 And one of the other candidates running against Putin has been put in prison, and they've seized other media empires and done that, so I tend to lean towards believing him, but again, we just don't know.

00:26:11.000 Police respond to federal lawsuit in drug suite.

00:26:13.000 This is out of the state of South Carolina.

00:26:16.000 Remember, hundreds, it was like 150 children.

00:26:20.000 Police yelling, cussing at them, put your hands behind your back, get down on the floor.

00:26:23.000 Police dogs jumping on them.

00:26:27.000 And the Big Brother security cameras picking all this up.

00:26:30.000 Goose Creek Police acted in their official capacity.

00:26:34.000 ...and did not violate student constitutional rights during a Stanford High drug sweep during which officers with guns drawn ordered students to the floor according to a response to a federal lawsuit.

00:26:46.000 Chief Harvey Becker was engaged in the performance of his official duties and at no time did he violate any clearly established constitutional rights of the plaintiffs which were known or should have been known to the 13-page response file this week.

00:27:02.000 I mean, folks, you've seen the video, at least most of you have.

00:27:05.000 I mean, it looked like something from a Supermax prison where they go, you know, where they open all the cell doors and throw everybody out on the ground and start going through things.

00:27:14.000 But there were no guns at the prisons.

00:27:16.000 Here they're aiming loaded guns at their heads, yelling at them, police dog jumps up, grabs a pack of a student and starts viciously shaking it, jumps on another student, they're crying, begging.

00:27:28.000 They had a police drill in Minnesota two years ago.

00:27:30.000 We had the teacher on.

00:27:31.000 They went to a portable building.

00:27:32.000 Didn't even tell the teacher it was a drill.

00:27:34.000 Said, get down on the floor. 1.00

00:27:35.000 I'll kill you if you don't. 1.00

00:27:36.000 Then drug her outside. 1.00

00:27:37.000 Said, walk towards the woods with your hands up.

00:27:39.000 She thought she was about to be killed.

00:27:41.000 Soiled herself.

00:27:43.000 This happens all over the country.

00:27:45.000 It's just training us how to be slaves.

00:27:47.000 And the filing also said the plaintiffs failed to state the cause of the legal action or facts supporting it.

00:27:53.000 The city of Greens Creek Police Department can be sued or held liable.

00:27:58.000 And 17 Stanford students sued December, alleging police and school officials terrified them during the November 5th raid, which attracted national attention.

00:28:09.000 Well, I've had their lawyer on, we've seen the video, and no drugs were found, and it's just, again, training our students how to be prisoners.

00:28:17.000 ID cards, cameras in the classrooms, many schools, cameras in the bathrooms.

00:28:22.000 This isn't freedom.

00:28:24.000 Here's an article on the Palm Beach Post, deputy charged with stealing cash from motorists, and he's been charged with pulling them over and taking their wallets and taking the money out of it.

00:28:34.000 That's just standard.

00:28:36.000 And again, we're not saying all police are bad, but you have criminals, just like you have anywhere else, in government.

00:28:41.000 But government then gets this shroud of anonymity and power, and they always bust some little cop who's doing something like this, but then When crime labs systematically frame people and there's industrialized corruption, you know, and massive drug dealing, nobody goes to jail.

00:28:58.000 Debate over outsourcing heats up, ignited by election year politics.

00:29:01.000 Bush's official economic commission says that chipping jobs overseas is good for the economy.

00:29:07.000 This is another article here.

00:29:08.000 It says Myra Brostein, that lost a software job, In April, when Bellevue-based Watchmark Comintel shifted her job and 16 others to a lower-cost operation in India.

00:29:22.000 Before Bronstein was let go, the Mercer Island resident was given the choice of either training for Indian replacements or forfeiting a severance package.

00:29:32.000 And she chose to train the workers. 0.96

00:29:37.000 And I've got a lot of friends who get told, we're going to let you go in a few months, train these Indians, and then go back to India. 0.99

00:29:45.000 Oh boy, I tell ya, globalism's wonderful, isn't it?

00:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:16.000 Alright my friends, it is Thursday, the 12th day of February 04

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00:33:27.000 We've been putting out a lot of new great reports that you definitely want to check out.

00:33:31.000 I want to thank the listener that transcribed, Andres von Bulow, the former German defense minister, and of course the head minister for the Ministry of Technology.

00:33:43.000 He's gone public laying out how The Globalist carried out September 11th, and we have that entire transcript, a perfect tool to email out to people.

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00:34:06.000 First time we had somebody do a transcript was of Greg Pallast.

00:34:10.000 Well, that's not true.

00:34:10.000 They'd done it for For the guy that brought down the mob in Chicago and helped impeach Bill Clinton, David Shippers, and we had some others out there, Stanley Hilton and others, but this is the first transcript that really went worldwide and was published, according to Greg Powell, in hundreds and hundreds of Latin American newspapers, dozens of newspapers in Italy and all over Europe.

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00:38:00.000 On Monday, or was it Tuesday, I've got the articles right here in front of me, New York City, City Council under pressure of the citizenry, left and right, Throughout the Patriot Act, St.

00:38:15.000 Paul did it as well.

00:38:16.000 A bunch of other towns and cities have done it this week.

00:38:19.000 It's well over the 150 cities they've been saying for six months have done it.

00:38:24.000 It's well over 400.

00:38:26.000 And multiple states.

00:38:28.000 And joining us is a gentleman, Uday Ofer.

00:38:32.000 With the Bill of Rights Defense Campaign.

00:38:34.000 We've got a link to the website NYCDORDC.ORG at my website.

00:38:41.000 Uday, thank you for joining us, sir.

00:38:43.000 It's good to be on, and it's Udy.

00:38:46.000 Udy Ofer.

00:38:47.000 Great.

00:38:48.000 Udy.

00:38:48.000 Okay, great.

00:38:49.000 I can hardly pronounce my own name.

00:38:50.000 you know we are down here in Texas.

00:38:52.000 Yeah, it's not an easy name.

00:38:54.000 Udi, good to have you on the show.

00:38:56.000 And, I mean, going over the Patriot Act and the process and how you guys got it thrown out

00:39:03.000 and how other towns and cities can do it, just lay it out for us.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, well, first of all, we passed what we call a Bill of Rights resolution, and it was passed on Wednesday, February 4th, so about a week ago.

00:39:15.000 Okay, see, I saw the article on Monday, so I was thinking, oh, it happened Monday.

00:39:20.000 Yeah, there's been a bit of a media blackout on this issue, as I'm sure you're well aware of with other issues.

00:39:26.000 The resolution calls on government officials to protect and uphold civil liberties and civil rights while prosecuting the so-called war on terrorism.

00:39:37.000 The USA Patriot Act, but in addition to that, other government policies through executive directives, departmental regulations, and court rulings have had You know, I've seriously undermined basic fundamental rights and liberties in the United States since 9-11.

00:39:55.000 Well, they're going after topless bars, county commissioners, Rush Limbaugh with it. 0.65

00:40:00.000 Right.

00:40:01.000 Yeah, you know, it's really, you know, there's been a lot of focus on the USA Patriot Act, but one of the things that, you know, we try to educate people here in New York City is that it's a lot broader than that, and it's just not the Patriot Act.

00:40:13.000 Well, it's Patriot Act II, it's Homeland Security, and before Patriot Act II was even passed seven weeks ago, Bush was already implementing Well, Patriot 2 has not been passed.

00:40:23.000 One provision of Patriot 2 was passed.

00:40:26.000 Well, according to Ron Paul, and I've read the bill, much, I'd say about 60%, that's what the congressman says, about 60% of Patriot Act 2 has been passed.

00:40:36.000 Well, okay, well, he could say that.

00:40:39.000 I mean, there's one provision, the one that expands the ability of the government to go through your private records.

00:40:45.000 That provision was expanded.

00:40:48.000 Yeah, no more Fourth Amendment. 0.99

00:40:49.000 Now, you know, most of the bill is also classified, sir.

00:40:52.000 The Intelligence Funding Act of 2004, most of that is secret.

00:40:58.000 Well, let's talk about what happened in New York City.

00:41:00.000 Yeah, let's talk about it.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, it's pretty exciting, because first of all, obviously, as your listeners, No.

00:41:04.000 No, the majority of the 9-11 attacks happened here.

00:41:07.000 Our office is only a few blocks away from Ground Zero, from the World Trade Center.

00:41:12.000 And many of the council members who represent that area voted for this resolution.

00:41:19.000 Here in New York City, it was a grassroots effort that, as you said, was joined by both the left and the right, and sort of also not your typical actors.

00:41:25.000 We had everyone from You know, the New York Public Library Guild, which is the largest library workers' union in the country, to the NAACP, to Bob Barr.

00:41:35.000 Bob Barr, actually, from the American Conservative Union, submitted testimony on behalf of the resolution.

00:41:41.000 It was a long fight.

00:41:42.000 It took about a year to get this resolution passed, because there were many council members who felt, you know, like lawmakers are feeling all around the country that if they take a stand, you know, for rights, for freedoms, In this climate, they're going to be deemed unpatriotic.

00:41:58.000 Well, the U.S.

00:41:59.000 Attorneys also twist their arms, threaten them with not getting their funding, and the Feds say, do what we say, or it's going to be your fault when there's another attack.

00:42:08.000 That's the big stick they hold.

00:42:10.000 Yeah, no, and it's especially true here in New York City.

00:42:13.000 I mean, over here, we feel a lot of this pressure.

00:42:15.000 The U.S.

00:42:16.000 Attorney's Office, I mean, I actually, I debate, you know, some of the U.S.

00:42:20.000 Attorneys here in New York City, and it's always It's always a heated issue because this is where, you know, this is ground zero for a lot of these issues.

00:42:28.000 Many of the U.S.

00:42:29.000 Attorneys who litigated, you know, the USS Cole bombing, the First World Trade Center bombing, the John Walker Ling case, I mean, they all sit over here.

00:42:40.000 So then, we meet them in debates and it's It's interesting, because when you debate them and you get into the specifics of what has been happening to Americans and to people in the United States, because this is not an abstract discussion.

00:42:55.000 Well, they've always claimed, and that's a great point, Udi, they're always claiming that, oh, it's only for terrorists, but Section 802 has such a broad definition of H.R. 31 Yep, and that's a great example. 0.96

00:43:08.000 That's definitely one of the most egregious provisions in the Patriot Act.

00:43:12.000 acted in danger of human life it's a violation of any federal or state law.

00:43:15.000 Yep, and that's a great example. That's exactly what, that's definitely one of the most egregious

00:43:20.000 provisions in the Patriot Act. The government says they haven't applied it yet, but what

00:43:24.000 we do know is that...

00:43:26.000 Yeah.

00:43:27.000 The spokesman for the Justice Department, and they have the transcript on the Washington Times, what Mr. Sierra said last year, they will use it in all crimes, they will use it in all investigations.

00:43:38.000 Yeah, and this is, you know, that section is part of the reason they actually have the left and the right coming together on this issue.

00:43:44.000 Because I think many people on the right realize that the next, let's say, pro-choice administration might use this on the pro-life movement.

00:43:52.000 Because, like we said, it could be read so broadly that anyone from Eleanor Roosevelt to Martin Luther King to just anybody engaged in minor civil disobedience... Well, we just had him subpoenaing people at a peace meeting at a major university.

00:44:06.000 Yeah, in Iowa.

00:44:08.000 And there are more examples.

00:44:11.000 In the first three months of 2003, the government labeled 56 cases as terrorism cases.

00:44:17.000 And Syracuse University, here in New York State, did some research into What were those 56 cases?

00:44:24.000 And they found out that 8 of those cases were the Vieques protesters down in the island of Vieques off of Puerto Rico who were protesting the government's use of that island as a military exercise base.

00:44:35.000 And as some of your listeners might know, the government is pulling out of there.

00:44:38.000 But the arrest of 8 of those protesters who, you know, locked themselves up to a fence around the military exercise area have been labeled as terrorism cases by the Justice Department.

00:44:51.000 Well, they've been labeling drug cases, gun cases.

00:44:56.000 I mean, I have hundreds of these articles.

00:44:58.000 Yeah, so this is the fear.

00:45:00.000 This is the reality of post-9-11 America, that people engage in lawful dissent.

00:45:06.000 You know, probably one of the most American things you could possibly do, criticizing your government, are not being labeled terrorists.

00:45:12.000 And this is why there's this tremendous movement Building across the United States.

00:45:17.000 Austin, Texas, I know passed a resolution a while ago.

00:45:21.000 You have over 250 cities, towns, and villages in three states, Alaska, Vermont, and Hawaii, that have passed these resolutions.

00:45:31.000 And you know, the resolutions, they take on different forms.

00:45:33.000 Like, some of them are purely anti-Patriot Act resolutions.

00:45:36.000 Other ones are general... Others are against NORTHCOM, Homeland Security, Patriot Act 1 and 2.

00:45:42.000 Yeah, so the 250 numbers that I use are the ones... I'm referring to the ones that deal with post-911 civil liberties issues, and I define that by, you know, Patriot Act, the roundups of Arab, Muslim, and South Asians, the stifling of free speech. 0.99

00:45:57.000 Because here in New York City in particular, you know, In the weeks after 9-11, we had massive dragnet operations by the FBI and immigration authorities into immigrant neighborhoods, where people who just looked like they were Arab or Muslim were basically rounded up, thrown in jail for weeks without charges.

00:46:16.000 And beat up?

00:46:18.000 Yep.

00:46:18.000 Subjected to a pattern of physical and verbal abuse.

00:46:20.000 And that's the language of the Inspector General's Office of the Justice Department.

00:46:23.000 It's not our language.

00:46:25.000 Um, you know, held for months, for months, on minor things like not filing a change of address within 10 days, and then all, 100% were cleared of terrorism charges.

00:46:35.000 Well now, now they're trying to pass a law, in fact it may not even pass, they said it was going to pass Monday.

00:46:41.000 Where if, when you set up an internet site, and if you don't put your home physical address, or your email gets changed or is wrong, seven years in prison or a multi-hundred thousand dollar fine.

00:46:52.000 Yeah.

00:46:53.000 We're seeing, you know, in the name of national security, in the name of fighting terrorism, we're seeing massive changes to our basic constitutional rights in the United States, and the lives of thousands of people are being directly impacted by this.

00:47:06.000 I mean, we talk all the time to families who, you know, especially Arab and Muslim families who say, you know, my husband went to the local grocery store, you know, a month after 9-11.

00:47:16.000 I didn't see him for six, seven months, you know, later, because somehow he got picked up on the street for walking Meanwhile, Bush flies 144 members of the Bin Laden family out the afternoon of 9-11 when all other air traffic is grounded.

00:47:36.000 Yeah, that's a great example.

00:47:38.000 I'm happy that you're talking about this, but unfortunately most of the media in this country just hasn't picked this up.

00:47:46.000 You have articles in the major mainstream press on the Patriot Act and things like that, but it's still They don't humanize it yet.

00:47:54.000 Well, when you hear about the Patriot Act, it's people are complaining about some surveillance rules to keep you safe, and it's only for terrorists.

00:48:03.000 Look, look, look.

00:48:04.000 I keep using the Las Vegas Review-Journal example, and literally, sir, Udi, I have hundreds of examples.

00:48:09.000 Great.

00:48:10.000 Las Vegas Review-Journal, a topless bar who may have paid a county commissioner for favorable zoning, and they use the Patriot Act?

00:48:17.000 I mean, that has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:48:20.000 Yeah, and this is one of the arguments we were able to get on a lot of council members here in New York City to get on board with our movement when we educated them that, you know what, so much of this has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:48:32.000 Now you know when Bush blows something else up, Udi, that...

00:48:36.000 That they're going to say, oh, it's your fault, now shut up, and we're going to arrest those that, you know, they've got national talk show hosts that say if you criticize the government, you should be arrested because you're aiding the terrorists, you should be put in a camp, the head of NORTHCOM says that the troops are going to take over our lives, the ongoing head of CENTCOM, Tommy Frank said we're going to go to martial law for the next attack.

00:48:57.000 Were you aware of that stuff?

00:48:59.000 You know, I'm not, I'm definitely not a North Com and other, you know, things like that, an expert of that.

00:49:05.000 But what I do know, and a fear that we have here at the ACLU almost every day, is what will happen if, you know, there's another terrorist attack?

00:49:14.000 Like, what's going to be the government's response?

00:49:16.000 Well, that's an interesting point you made, because, you know, you're obviously with the ACLU and also working with the Bill of Rights, the press campaign.

00:49:22.000 The ACLU didn't seem too worried about the police state stuff under Bill Clinton, and I just want to point out that the conservatives and libertarians have stood up against Bush, and I would hope if we get Bush's skull and bones peapod buddy in there, that when he's pulling all this, you guys are going to be just as active.

00:49:40.000 Well, I definitely will.

00:49:41.000 Because I've got to tell you, a lot of the powers that the Bush administration is using right now were actually passed into law during the Clinton era.

00:49:48.000 And I'll be the first one to say that.

00:49:50.000 And I gotta tell you, too, I don't view this as a Republican-Democrat issue.

00:49:53.000 I really don't.

00:49:54.000 Let's not forget that it was Franklin D. Roosevelt that ordered the internment of Japanese-Americans, you know, during World War II.

00:50:01.000 And by the way, most of them never got their property back.

00:50:03.000 Yeah.

00:50:04.000 So I, you know, whenever I speak publicly on this issue, I always make the point that I don't view this as a Republican-Democrat issue.

00:50:11.000 See, you talk about people not knowing.

00:50:13.000 You need to read the Cigar Aficionado article from December where the outgoing head of CENTCOM says, if we're attacked again, we're going to set aside the Constitution for a military form of government.

00:50:24.000 The people are going to demand it.

00:50:26.000 Yeah.

00:50:27.000 Is that not chilling?

00:50:28.000 It's very chilling.

00:50:30.000 It's very.

00:50:30.000 And you know, when you look at it, this is where, you know, one of the points that I try to get across is that You know, this is not the first time the United States is in a time of crisis.

00:50:40.000 And this is not the first time that the government is feeding us a line that say, we need to suspend the Constitution in order to preserve our freedoms.

00:50:47.000 America isn't America if we don't have those freedoms and liberties in the Bill of Rights.

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00:54:11.000 All right, my friends.

00:54:17.000 I know that Andrew and George and Alan and Brock and Michael have been holding.

00:54:20.000 Let's try to get to all of you in the next two segments.

00:54:22.000 Andrew in Texas, go ahead.

00:54:24.000 You're on the air.

00:54:25.000 Hi, Alex.

00:54:26.000 First off, real quick, I wanted to get Oliver North's email.

00:54:29.000 I wondered if you had that handy.

00:54:32.000 No, he hung up.

00:54:33.000 We didn't get it from him.

00:54:34.000 Okay.

00:54:35.000 But I can get in touch with his publisher, I guess, and get it.

00:54:38.000 Okay.

00:54:39.000 And also, I was wondering if you were aware of the Hurricane Andrew cover-up theories.

00:54:45.000 Or anything about that?

00:54:47.000 No, I'm not.

00:54:48.000 Okay.

00:54:49.000 Um, well what the public record is that South Dade County was not evacuated.

00:54:55.000 Okay.

00:54:56.000 And once everybody was hit, um, relief aid was not allowed into the county for 10 days.

00:55:04.000 I knew about that.

00:55:05.000 Yeah.

00:55:06.000 Okay.

00:55:06.000 And so that's the question is why, why were they doing that for 10 days while Kate Hale, Who was in charge of South Dade County relief efforts.

00:55:14.000 Not federally, that was Andrew Card at the time, the Secretary of Transportation.

00:55:18.000 Three words as to why they did that.

00:55:21.000 It was migrant labor camps.

00:55:24.000 Okay?

00:55:25.000 Thousands of people apparently died.

00:55:27.000 People, witnesses have come forward saying that they helped to recover the bodies, that they witnessed the people.

00:55:33.000 Well, I have Associated Press articles where over the last ten years, they've built hundreds of these migrant labor camps. 0.90

00:55:41.000 Where they, quote, arrest people and put them in there later and yeah, that's why they love illegal alien labor. 0.80

00:55:47.000 That's why they've got 20,000 illegal Mexicans they made legal over in Iraq. 0.96

00:55:51.000 Because when they die, they just go in the dirt. 0.89

00:55:54.000 Right.

00:55:56.000 So, where I found out about this is a woman, a hurricane survivor, a Hurricane Andrew survivor, wrote a book about it entitled, Where Heavens Meet, and her name is K.T.

00:56:05.000 Frankovich.

00:56:07.000 Where heavens meet.

00:56:08.000 Arnold, try to get her on. 1.00

00:56:09.000 Yeah, and especially Kate Hale.

00:56:10.000 If you could find Kate Hale.

00:56:12.000 We're trying to find her.

00:56:13.000 And she was in charge, and on the sixth day that they prevented relief going into that county, she was in front of the entire press junket, flying into hysterics because nobody would provide relief, and they're having more casualties.

00:56:26.000 Alright, well thank you.

00:56:27.000 A lot of that weird stuff has happened with hurricanes, but I don't really know the specifics.

00:56:31.000 Sorry.

00:56:31.000 George.

00:56:32.000 George, where are you calling us from?

00:56:35.000 Oh, hi there.

00:56:37.000 Calling you from Ontario.

00:56:38.000 Welcome from Canada, go ahead.

00:56:40.000 I'll make a quick comment there about your last caller that was slightly off topic for me, but it's a warning from Thomas Paine.

00:56:46.000 He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression.

00:56:51.000 For if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.

00:56:57.000 So when you hang your enemy, you do it with a rope around your own neck.

00:57:01.000 And I hope a lot of people that react emotionally to the news that is fabricated keep that very much in mind.

00:57:07.000 But what I called you about was I came across an excellent book called Gold Warriors.

00:57:11.000 It's written by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave.

00:57:14.000 And it's all about the loot that the Japanese took in World War II. 0.63

00:57:18.000 They stumbled on some files accidentally while they were researching the Hirohito family in a previous book.

00:57:24.000 Alex, you can't believe how much money was pilfered by these people.

00:57:29.000 Fifteen mine loads in the Philippines.

00:57:34.000 And the American administration at the time, the usual suspects in conspiracy, were responsible for liberating this money and making it disappear.

00:57:43.000 As one example, in 1960, Richard Nixon gave 35 billion U.S.

00:57:48.000 dollars to a man who became Prime Minister of Japan, who signed the Declaration of War Against Your Country.

00:57:57.000 This money, if they only use the interest off this money, they still have the principal.

00:58:02.000 And when you read about the people that were involved, the gangsters, drug dealers, war criminals... Well, I know this, $1.2 trillion is missing over the Clinton administration and now the Bush administration, and about 40% of that money has disappeared just while Bush has been in for three and a half years.

00:58:19.000 I mean, it is wholesale looting!

00:58:23.000 To an extent that I couldn't even believe.

00:58:27.000 I'm not familiar with the whole Japan thing, but I know that's why they love war, because there's so much clandestine stuff that can happen. 0.99

00:58:34.000 Exactly.

00:58:35.000 And it's a terrible shame, Alex, that that show we were on in Toronto, Cloak & Dagger, was taken off the air.

00:58:41.000 And it's still an internet show, cloakanddagger.ca.

00:58:44.000 It is.

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01:00:14.000 All right, my friends.

01:00:17.000 Already into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny, we have Greg Pallast, BBC Newsnight investigative reporter, best-selling author, joining us coming up the next segment to talk about, well, the arms bazaar in Pakistan and what's really going on with Lord Bush, his involvement protecting the proliferators of thermal nuclear weapons.

01:00:39.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls.

01:00:41.000 Alan in Texas.

01:00:42.000 Alan, go ahead.

01:00:45.000 Good to talk to you, Alan.

01:00:47.000 You're on the air.

01:00:48.000 I hope your previous guest is still listening, because I wanted to talk for a minute about the city's resolutions for the Patriot Act.

01:00:55.000 And I first would like to highlight this.

01:00:57.000 There was a buddy of mine, I was delivering my wheatgrass down there on Barton Springs Drive, and one of the kids that runs that shop told me that he was walking into a travel agency and got called outside by four police officers, which pulled him aside, interrogated him about who he is, where he lives, what his phone number is.

01:01:15.000 What are you doing here in this travel agency?

01:01:18.000 I think I was just taking care of personal business.

01:01:21.000 And the kid says, well, wait a minute.

01:01:22.000 This is over the top.

01:01:23.000 Why are you guys asking me all these questions?

01:01:25.000 And I said, well, we saw you jogging across the crosswalk over there.

01:01:30.000 OK?

01:01:31.000 Now, that spurred me.

01:01:32.000 I called up, actually I emailed Mayor Pro Tem Goodman to ask her what sort of action had been taken on the resolution against the Patriot Act.

01:01:44.000 To ensure that those resolves were followed up on, what kind of bite is there in this resolution?

01:01:51.000 I got back a full page letter, she must be able to type really fast, and bless her heart, she's a great woman. 0.99

01:01:57.000 It said nothing.

01:01:59.000 Um, so I called the police department to ask what the community... Listen, when you sign a credit card, uh, uh, form now, when you get a bank account, uh, when you're going anywhere, it's all Patriot Act.

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01:02:11.000 We're gonna give your info to the government when you buy stuff out of catalogs.

01:02:14.000 It's just, all these big corporations are lining up for the Caps 2 system.

01:02:19.000 Go ahead.

01:02:19.000 Okay, we need to move to the solution now.

01:02:21.000 Now, these resolutions... Well, what did he say to these police?

01:02:25.000 He just was like, I was just stunned.

01:02:28.000 What have I done?

01:02:29.000 Why are you doing this?

01:02:30.000 And they said, oh, we're just acting on orders of the Homeland Security Act.

01:02:36.000 Now this was after the resolution was passed.

01:02:39.000 So I followed up.

01:02:40.000 When the council members were discussing this, A lot of their conversation was about, well, what does this mean?

01:02:45.000 Now understand, that's like Nazi Germany where, let me see your papers, why are you going in there?

01:02:50.000 Right, now you said earlier in your show today, you know, we think we've made progress, but then either nothing has happened or it gets worse.

01:02:57.000 Okay, we cannot stop with a resolution on the Patriot Act.

01:03:02.000 We're going to need, and every one of these cities, I hope your listeners will take action on this, we're going to need hearings to talk about Like, um, city law.

01:03:12.000 And to get that started, you can go sign up for your three minutes, take ten of your friends, sign up, and go, hey, you know, that young man needs to go down there and say, hey, I walked in a travel agency and they were asking me what I'm doing.

01:03:22.000 I mean, what is this?

01:03:24.000 It's, you know, the secret police milling around the street.

01:03:28.000 If they pass these resolutions and have nothing to follow it up with, the police department, they just, I mean, they sounded like they were just laughing at me.

01:03:35.000 What do you mean, do we have any kind of a monitoring system on Illegal or unconstitutional activities.

01:03:42.000 Oh, so you talked to the police department?

01:03:44.000 I talked to them also.

01:03:45.000 Well, I know this Stan Nee was in the back room with the FBI and the U.S.

01:03:52.000 Attorney during the five hour debate about the Patriot Act, just beat red.

01:03:58.000 Right.

01:03:59.000 Well, you know, if we've got federal C.I.A.

01:04:03.000 wanting to move into our police departments.

01:04:05.000 Oh, that's been in the news.

01:04:06.000 The C.I.A.

01:04:08.000 is setting up offices.

01:04:09.000 The legislation's up there.

01:04:10.000 But if we have a local resolution that cannot prevent them from doing that, by making it illegal, punishable, by violating city law, and if the county law is the only, if our sheriff is the only guy who can really keep the feds out, they need to be on the bus.

01:04:28.000 I hear you, sir.

01:04:28.000 Good points.

01:04:30.000 We're going to have to follow up all of these cities, and we're going to have to get legislation to put teeth in the resolve.

01:04:37.000 Well, thanks for calling, Alan.

01:04:39.000 You're welcome.

01:04:41.000 I think I heard Alan's voice on this network.

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01:08:21.000 About a week and a half ago it came out that Pakistan, our little buddies with the dictatorship there, Same folks that stage fake bombings against the President as an excuse to crack down on their population. 0.98

01:08:33.000 They do the same stuff Bush does.

01:08:37.000 It came out that some of their top scientists had been going around selling key nuclear weapons components.

01:08:43.000 Or is being alleged to foreign countries?

01:08:45.000 Well, our government, ABB, board member, Rumsfeld, I mean, Clinton allowed it, but Rumsfeld did it, arming North Korea.

01:08:53.000 Laurel, Hughes, these big Republican contributors, going and arming China.

01:08:57.000 They've been in there helping build up Pakistan, which is just totally nuts. 1.00

01:09:01.000 I mean, Pakistan is more unstable and crazy than Iran or Syria. 1.00

01:09:06.000 I mean, they're good guys compared to these people.

01:09:09.000 And then it turns out, as usual, Greg Paulus, Best-selling author, a New York Times best-selling author of the best democracy money can buy, and BBC Newsnight investigative journalist, is Greg Pallast.

01:09:24.000 And turns out, con job, bush spike probe of Pakistan's nuclear mad scientist, and joining us is Greg Pallast.

01:09:34.000 Greg, good to have you on.

01:09:37.000 Great to be with you again, Alex, and obviously what people are just hearing this week on CNN and the rest of the American media, they would have heard already on your program, because I remember speaking with you last, when my book was released in the USA, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

01:09:57.000 It's about six, seven months ago.

01:09:59.000 Yeah, almost nine months ago.

01:10:03.000 Thanks to your good work, by the way, it went to the New York Times Best Seller list.

01:10:07.000 But in that book at page 100, I just wanted to remind you we had spoken about the fact that Pakistan was giving out nuclear secrets.

01:10:17.000 I specifically named Dr. Khan, the Dr. Strange love of Pakistan, but there's something that has not been discussed on CNN that we discussed and I want to bring it back with a little extra.

01:10:34.000 In 2001, before the September 11th attack, our president's national security agencies ended, hindered, stopped the investigation of Dr. Khan, the Dr. Strangelove of Pakistan.

01:10:51.000 And it was the same thing with the Bin Laden? 0.94

01:10:53.000 It was part of the same directive that came out of, and that was in the book, and we had discussed it.

01:10:59.000 What happened was, uh... i was sitting it was very chilling call i gotta tell you alex i was sitting in in bbc headquarters in london and despite our the recent attacks are still the the main uh... news outlet on this planet the biggest news network on the planet uh... and we got a call from inside of the national security apparatus of the of the uh... of our government the d i a c a complex and and a top operative told us

01:11:28.000 That investigations are being spiked and hindered.

01:11:31.000 And that was the W199I story?

01:11:34.000 Yes, that was one part of it.

01:11:35.000 See, the reason we got that call is that the FBI, just so you know the 199I story, that means a national security document, a secret document.

01:11:43.000 We got a hold of a fax, a copy of a secret document, which said that the investigation of the Bin Laden family in the United States, two members of that Bin Laden family, that FBI agents were not allowed to go ahead with that investigation until September 13, 2001, two days after the attack, and these guys, of course, had flown.

01:12:02.000 So, but, the FBI, just so you know, the FBI's response to us was not that it didn't, that this document wasn't authentic.

01:12:11.000 They have never, the FBI, given every opportunity, has never challenged the authenticity of the document.

01:12:16.000 What they said to us was, there are things we have to do for national security that the public may not understand.

01:12:23.000 Okay.

01:12:24.000 And so, I decided, well, I'd like to understand it, and their second excuse was that these were low-level agents.

01:12:32.000 Who basically had flipped these documents to us, and they didn't understand why they were pulled off the case.

01:12:39.000 But they didn't understand the big picture.

01:12:42.000 So we decided we'd better go to the top guys.

01:12:44.000 An investigation that included the supposed hijackers, the money men, all of it.

01:12:50.000 Well, yeah, the investigation is into the guys who were running what was considered a terrorist front organization.

01:12:56.000 You should know this terrorist front organization that they identified was and they had members of their staff

01:13:04.000 a member of their staff was the guy who was carrying the tapes from osama bin laden to al jazeera tv

01:13:10.000 saying you know we got you and we're going to come in

01:13:12.000 and get you again these are the guys right

01:13:15.000 and i'll just say it the cia bag man Yeah.

01:13:18.000 Yeah.

01:13:19.000 You know, all I can tell you is what I got, which is the file that said you can't look at these members of the Bin Laden family in the United States until, of course, they've left after the attack.

01:13:27.000 Well, I want to digress for a second.

01:13:28.000 Remember Colin Powell last year, right before the war?

01:13:31.000 He goes, no, Bin Laden is with Saddam.

01:13:34.000 Al Jazeera is airing the tape right now, and all the media ran out to go watch Al Jazeera and came back and said, no, it's not.

01:13:39.000 He goes, oh, it'll be on in a few hours.

01:13:41.000 Boy, they sure know when this guy they've been protecting is going to bring the tapes in.

01:13:45.000 Yeah, and what's very interesting is that when we got this call, you know, I said, look, he said that there was a major shift in U.S.

01:13:57.000 intelligence policy at the very top, this top operative, and he said it has hindered certain investigations.

01:14:03.000 This guy was like, you can imagine, intensely nervous, and we had his identity confirmed to us, By National Security News Service, which is a terrific investigations outfit.

01:14:17.000 And he said, look, and I said, look, you have to tell me specific investigations that were halted by this administration.

01:14:24.000 I can't just go on the air and say, even if I just say on the air that it's general, you have to tell me specifically what investigations were spiked.

01:14:32.000 And he said, Khan Labs.

01:14:35.000 Now, I have to tell you, I didn't know Khan Labs.

01:14:37.000 I thought he meant like something in Connecticut.

01:14:40.000 Then I look it up.

01:14:41.000 Khan Labs is Dr. Abdul Khan, A.Q.

01:14:45.000 Khan of Pakistan. 0.91

01:14:48.000 The Nuclear Manufacturing and Research Lab in Pakistan is called Khan Laboratories.

01:14:56.000 And as it turns out, what happened was they had stopped that investigation.

01:14:59.000 Now, why?

01:15:00.000 The answer is twofold.

01:15:02.000 First, Because our president was going steady with his dictator boss, this guy Pervez Musharraf, the dictator of Pakistan.

01:15:14.000 And we didn't want to annoy the dictator of Pakistan.

01:15:17.000 Even more, and this has not come out in the news again either, is that according to our intelligence services, the initial money, we know that Comms sold secrets to North Korea and to Libya and to Iran.

01:15:33.000 But the initial money appears to have come from Saudi Arabia for Pakistan to build the so-called Islamic bomb.

01:15:40.000 And our agents were telling us, all these agents at many levels were telling us, you cannot investigate Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks or nuclear proliferation.

01:15:52.000 You can't look at the Saudis. 1.00

01:15:53.000 Because that brings you back to the Bin Laden family, and when you get back to the Bin Laden family, you get back to the family Which has, you know, financially backed the Bush family. 0.83

01:16:06.000 And you get back to beady-eyed Bush and the Carlisle Group and the rest of them.

01:16:09.000 Right.

01:16:10.000 Now, as you know, right now we have a very, very unusual situation, Alex.

01:16:15.000 So, first of all, obviously, this still hasn't come out.

01:16:17.000 So, first, our newspapers are saying, and I was just sickened, by the way, to watch CNN.

01:16:22.000 In fact, I even pulled the transcript because I thought it was just so amazing what they're telling us.

01:16:28.000 Oh, by the way, Bush began his speech yesterday, our president, by saying, I see my friend George Shultz, a distinguished public servant and true patriot, with us.

01:16:36.000 George Shultz, by the way, was the head of Bechtel Corporation.

01:16:40.000 And he's Bush's main handler.

01:16:42.000 And as head of Bechtel, they are the guys who, they're number two after Halliburton in terms of cleaning up on these Iraq contagions. 0.95

01:16:42.000 Right. 0.95

01:16:49.000 True Patriot, sucking in those billions. 0.97

01:16:52.000 Yeah, direct pipelines of pure cash going directly into their fat bellies, no bids allowed. 0.91

01:16:57.000 Well, that's how you know he's a distinguished servant in True Patriot.

01:17:01.000 But he said also, Anyway, Brigham says, now we know that once the administration has established that everything was true regarding Pakistan's involvement in the bomb, they pressed the dictator Musharraf to crack down on this and deal with Dr. Khan.

01:17:23.000 No, they stopped it.

01:17:24.000 The only reason, by the way, the game blew up and became public, is this was a little game played by Qaddafi. 0.58

01:17:32.000 When he decides to switch sides and join together with the oil companies in America and kind of switch sides, now he's our dictator, right?

01:17:39.000 Gaddafi's still a brutal, vicious dictator.

01:17:43.000 Well, this is 1984.

01:17:44.000 I mean, Greg, this is 1984.

01:17:46.000 He's always bad, he's always evil overnight.

01:17:48.000 He's now good!

01:17:49.000 He's all good!

01:17:50.000 Did they have elections there that I didn't know about?

01:17:54.000 I thought we were bringing democracy to the Middle East.

01:17:56.000 It looks like what they're doing is bringing this new oil contract I mean, Gaddafi's not talking about democracy.

01:18:02.000 He's just cutting a deal with us.

01:18:03.000 But as kind of, I think, his little practical prank, was to say, oh, by the way, I thought I'd tell you who gave me some of the bomb secrets.

01:18:09.000 This guy from Pakistan.

01:18:10.000 Well, that's what Saddam did, and they had special forces troops go into the UN office, steal, and this was on the news, grabbed, what, 8,000 pages of the documents, and then Saddam released another copy, and guess what? 0.70

01:18:23.000 It was US and British companies.

01:18:25.000 That's right.

01:18:26.000 And so what you have is I'm stunned at this, because we reported this just so you know, that this story about Dr. Khan and his bomb, and the story about the Bin Laden family as well, and spiking these investigations, this was page one news all over the planet, reported by BBC in November of 2001.

01:18:49.000 Over two years ago, just two months after the attack.

01:18:51.000 What was the headline on that?

01:18:53.000 Because, Greg, I want the headline on that because I want to post this interview with that article.

01:18:57.000 Yeah, in fact, actually, I got a University of California's journalism school gave BBC and the Guardian newspapers what's called a Project Censored Award for that story.

01:19:08.000 That means The Project Censored Award from the Journalism School means that you have reported one of the most important stories on the planet, but it wasn't shown in the USA.

01:19:17.000 Yeah, I got one of those this year.

01:19:19.000 It's like you're talking about 40 countries running this story.

01:19:24.000 I'm talking page one and not a word in the US.

01:19:27.000 And now we get Dr. Khan.

01:19:29.000 Oh, we found this bad guy.

01:19:32.000 But what they're leaving out is how come the Bush administration, which had this information, like I say, according to our information, they spiked the investigation, but they still had plenty on this guy.

01:19:41.000 They never went after.

01:19:43.000 They never went after this guy.

01:19:45.000 And now that it's come out, they're going, oh boy, this is bad.

01:19:49.000 Let's do something.

01:19:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:24:03.000 Of investigative reporters that you can call mainstream, Greg Pallas

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01:24:23.000 And really, it's just called old-fashioned work.

01:24:26.000 And, uh, you have our government knowing that Pakistan was proliferating nuclear weapons components, key stuff, and nothing goes on in that country that the government isn't sanctioning. 0.94

01:24:37.000 They're arming North Korea, North Korea's arming them, they're trying to sell stuff to Iran, everybody else. 0.55

01:24:43.000 And the military-industrial complex really likes this, folks.

01:24:46.000 It was our government that helped arm Russia. 0.76

01:24:47.000 Then they just burned the Rosenbergs as their patsies. 0.97

01:24:50.000 Because then they can have big weapons systems and keep the war going.

01:24:54.000 And that's what this is all about.

01:24:56.000 And Greg Pallast, years ago, in the BBC, put out these reports.

01:25:03.000 He put it out in his book on page 100.

01:25:07.000 His book he wrote a year ago came out nine months ago.

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01:25:11.000 It's an excellent book, by the way.

01:25:14.000 This is scary.

01:25:16.000 Greg Palast, for those that just joined us that don't understand the players, boil it down for people in just a couple minutes what we're looking at and why this is so important because I don't want to just glaze over each one of these bombshell facts you've been laying out here.

01:25:33.000 Well, thank you Alex.

01:25:34.000 And by the way, I want to thank you because while I am on the biggest network on the planet, my stuff is virtually blacked out in the United States except on your program.

01:25:43.000 And so I really appreciate this opportunity to bring the information that's page one everywhere else on the planet.

01:25:52.000 I really thank you and I hope people realize how special and important this is to have this different outlet, which is not.

01:25:59.000 I mean, Alex has not been afraid to let me report all the news that I discover.

01:26:04.000 Now, I should mention, so to begin with, in November of 2001, FBI agents Came to us at BBC television and the research groups you're working with, CIA, DIA officials, low-level, high-level, many, all complaining about the same thing.

01:26:21.000 That after, that before September 11th, they were not allowed to really hunt down terror networks and their alliances in the United States itself and in Pakistan and most particularly the connections back to Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family and other Saudi funders of terror.

01:26:41.000 Now, you have to understand, and what they said was, when we were asked what specific investigations were killed, we were told one, the investigation killed the bin Laden family members in the United States, and the second, Khan Laboratories, which is basically running a carpet bazaar in nuclear secrets out of Pakistan.

01:27:01.000 And again, because the idea was not to disturb the Saudi money, Connection.

01:27:05.000 Now, one thing that should be very important and part of this discussion, the victims of September 11th, their families, the families of the victims of the September 11th attack, have sued the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia for funding these characters.

01:27:22.000 This is the same guy that our information says was funding first Saddam Hussein and then later Pakistan to build an atomic bomb. 0.90

01:27:22.000 Okay? 0.90

01:27:31.000 His lawyer, His lawyer is a guy named James Baker III, who is also the senior counsel to Carlisle Group, who is also counsel to ExxonMobil Oil Corporation.

01:27:44.000 And former Secretary of State.

01:27:45.000 Former Secretary of State and counsel to George Bush, our president, in the Florida election count.

01:27:55.000 He now has an office, this man who represents the Saudi Arabian Defense Ministry, Exxon, He has an office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue given to him by our President.

01:28:08.000 This is the first in American history in which a foreign agent and oil company lobbyist is given a desk in the White House.

01:28:16.000 And the reason this is allowed to happen, just so you know, I mean, a strange subterfuge... Yeah, at least Clinton did it with the Chinese spies down the road at the Commerce Department.

01:28:24.000 Right, right, what you want to do is keep them off-site.

01:28:27.000 And in fact, if you remember, Henry Kissinger had to run away from the September 11th Committee because he wouldn't reveal his clients or get rid of his conflicts.

01:28:34.000 So why hasn't James Baker been required to do the same?

01:28:37.000 And the answer is, he has been tech-appointed to so-called reorganize Iraq's debts for the Iraqis, right?

01:28:44.000 They didn't ask for it, though.

01:28:45.000 But technically, he wasn't appointed by our President, but appointed by the puppet government that our President has installed in Iraq.

01:28:52.000 So, he does not have to go through a Senate confirmation hearing.

01:28:55.000 He doesn't have to reveal his conflicts.

01:28:57.000 He doesn't have to end his conflicts.

01:28:59.000 He still represents Saudi Arabia against the victims of September 11th.

01:29:04.000 And he's got an office in the White House.

01:29:07.000 In the meantime, our agencies are still covering for the fact that this madman, Dr. Strangelove, Dr. Khan of Pakistan, was in fact being funded by Uh, by the Saudis. 0.64

01:29:22.000 So anyway, I've got to get off because I have another call I have to make.

01:29:25.000 This is Greg Pallis reporting for Alex Jones.

01:29:27.000 What a pleasure.

01:29:27.000 By the way, I've got a new CD out with this information, and Alex, I'm going to talk to you about that and maybe tell people about that tomorrow, okay?

01:29:33.000 God bless you, Greg Pallis.

01:29:35.000 Thanks for that report and take care.

01:29:38.000 We'll come back and take your calls, get into this, and cover more.

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01:33:11.000 We're about to go to Moroccan Michael and Joe, Tom, Ron, and many others that are patiently holding But again, hidden in plain view, they protect Pakistan, they protect the fact that they're proliferating nukes. 1.00

01:33:26.000 Pakistan's got them. 0.99

01:33:27.000 I mean, the uranium, the parts, all of it.

01:33:31.000 Bush is hooked in with the Karwal Group, the Bin Ladens, the Saudi Royalty doing all this. 0.74

01:33:37.000 And meanwhile, they go into Iraq for somebody that doesn't have, you know, 5% of what Pakistan's got. 0.94

01:33:46.000 And we're setting this precedent where all these other countries can have nukes.

01:33:49.000 North Korea, Pakistan, Israel, everybody else, South Africa, you know, they got nukes?

01:33:54.000 Oh yeah.

01:33:56.000 Estimated to have over a hundred of them.

01:33:58.000 But that's all okay.

01:34:00.000 Japan's redeveloping nuclear weapons.

01:34:02.000 That is, re-arming, developing them.

01:34:05.000 Publicly saying they're developing them.

01:34:08.000 But now they want to go into Syria and Iran.

01:34:10.000 They bring this new story out instead of going, hey, why did Bush protect the Pakistani scientists and the government?

01:34:15.000 It's, oh, Syria and Iran may have gotten some of this.

01:34:18.000 Let's invade them! 0.99

01:34:19.000 Now, let's not invade the country that did it.

01:34:27.000 And I just... These stories are so huge.

01:34:31.000 The bravado of the Bush administration.

01:34:33.000 I mean, Bush on his military records.

01:34:36.000 We have his military records.

01:34:38.000 The media has had them.

01:34:39.000 The Boston Globe has written about them.

01:34:40.000 So has the Associated Press.

01:34:41.000 And Bush goes, fine, I'll release them.

01:34:43.000 They were already released.

01:34:45.000 They've expunged some of them, but the documents we have have already been out there for months.

01:34:49.000 We've been reporting on them here at nauseam.

01:34:52.000 And Bush says, they show I did my duty.

01:34:56.000 Well, he knows 99.9% of you are never going to go read the documents, 35 pages of them like I did.

01:35:03.000 Or like the Boston Globe did, and they could just say, oh, that's just liberals, you know, the documents show I did my duty.

01:35:09.000 They don't show that!

01:35:12.000 But it's the bravado of, they show I did my duty.

01:35:17.000 And with them producing these pay stubs, when it shows he's gone for 21 months, wow, that's even worse!

01:35:24.000 His Congress member, CIA director daddy really got the strings pulled!

01:35:29.000 The guy was grounded.

01:35:31.000 He didn't take his flight test.

01:35:32.000 He didn't take his drug test.

01:35:33.000 Didn't do any of it.

01:35:35.000 Just disappeared.

01:35:38.000 And then Bush tries to inject this spin that, well, don't talk bad about the guard.

01:35:42.000 Nobody was talking bad about the guard.

01:35:44.000 Now all the neocons are, yeah, I was in the guard.

01:35:46.000 How dare you?

01:35:47.000 I've got friends I've talked to who know about the new order.

01:35:50.000 And they go, well, don't put down the guard, Alex.

01:35:52.000 You know, Bush likes me.

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01:35:59.000 It's like Clinton. 0.95

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01:36:06.000 I feel strong because I'm with him.

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01:36:36.000 I don't even know what I can say to this wall of lies.

01:36:40.000 This is a government that plants fake letters from troops in major newspapers with false signatures.

01:36:45.000 I mean, this is a government that lies about mobile weapons trucks.

01:36:48.000 And Bush said again that Saddam had mass graves in his Meet the Press interview.

01:36:56.000 Well, we found the mass graves.

01:36:59.000 And Iran was the one that said no. 0.93

01:37:01.000 The UN inspected that place in 92.

01:37:05.000 We send trucks multiple times monthly exchanging dead Iraqis we dig up that have been covered by sands and we exchange them for dead Iranians. 1.00

01:37:15.000 That's why it was boxes of bones and sand pouring out.

01:37:19.000 I'm not saying Saddam didn't torture and kill people. 0.98

01:37:21.000 He was trained by the CIA and put in by the CIA and told to attack Iran and told to attack Kuwait and in all of this. 0.99

01:37:29.000 The point is that they're liars and they're still telling the lies! 0.76

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01:39:04.000 Brock in Canada, thanks for holding patiently, you're on the air.

01:39:07.000 Hello Alex, I could only guess that this fiasco in Iraq is all about money and keeping the military industrial complex grinding.

01:39:19.000 That's a large part of it.

01:39:20.000 It's also about $4 trillion in oil there, $3 trillion in Afghanistan.

01:39:24.000 It's about setting up a police state here domestically.

01:39:28.000 That's about a lot of things.

01:39:30.000 And John Kerry and George Bush, they're both skull and bones men.

01:39:34.000 So would the policy of skull and bones men be just keep wars everywhere because that's how they were trained and their mindsets at that university?

01:39:44.000 One thing that's accurate in the movie Skulls, and again this is admitted, is they have a room called the War Room, and this was built 172 years ago, folks.

01:39:57.000 They have a room, and on the wall is war, and they pray to Satan that they believe Lucifer's God to give them power as captains, as kings, as pirates, to wage war upon the cattle.

01:40:14.000 And we're all seen as the cattle.

01:40:16.000 And they have these war chants they do.

01:40:20.000 And yes, it's all about war.

01:40:21.000 And you've got these district relations.

01:40:23.000 They say third cousins.

01:40:25.000 Lord Bush, And Lord Kerry, in the same secret society, both with the same answer, so secret we can't talk about it, this proves it's WWF wrestling, Shakespearean theater, there is no presidential election, you can forget the electronic voting machines, that doesn't even matter, because the two candidates are from the same generational cult.

01:40:48.000 Yes, and I think that it'll probably be Kerry, because that will deflect some of the stuff that's slowly coming out about Bush.

01:40:57.000 And then they can shift back over, and then the left will suddenly love the Patriot Act and all that's happening.

01:41:04.000 But let me say this.

01:41:05.000 I said over a year ago that I thought Kerry would be the nominee.

01:41:09.000 Folks thought I was nuts.

01:41:10.000 I then have said that I believe George Bush will be the next president.

01:41:15.000 And you know what?

01:41:16.000 It doesn't matter either way, frankly.

01:41:18.000 Though, if Kerry gets in, neocons will finally wake up and become conservatives again.

01:41:23.000 Because, you know, if Kerry tries to get rid of borders, sign assault weapons bans, arm communist Chinese, he'll get heat. 0.96

01:41:29.000 Now, this is all conservative now under Bush, and I'm liberal because I'm pro-gun.

01:41:32.000 And I'm being serious here, folks.

01:41:35.000 But I personally think, when Bush looked at you and said, I'm not going to lose, And he had total confidence there.

01:41:41.000 The demonic elf, Bediadonus, disappeared.

01:41:44.000 And he looked like a man.

01:41:46.000 And he said, I'm not going to lose.

01:41:49.000 It was very cryptic.

01:41:49.000 I know where I'm going to lead.

01:41:53.000 But again, I could be wrong.

01:41:55.000 But if need be, they got the voting machines in.

01:41:58.000 But if Kerry gives them, it's staged.

01:42:00.000 I can't get inside their minds.

01:42:02.000 But it'll probably be in 08, Kerry and Hillary Clinton as vice president. 0.99

01:42:09.000 That's what you'll probably see.

01:42:10.000 That's why Hillary's hanging back right now. 1.00

01:42:12.000 But it could be John Kerry.

01:42:13.000 Go ahead.

01:42:14.000 And I was also going to say, are there weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

01:42:20.000 Or have they been carefully maneuvered?

01:42:24.000 Or what is the story there?

01:42:26.000 Do they exist?

01:42:28.000 Well, they'll exist if they want them to.

01:42:30.000 Well, they could have produced them any time they wanted to.

01:42:35.000 They tried to bring out fake examples, but it was so shoddy they got caught.

01:42:39.000 And a lot of that is because the troops aren't evil.

01:42:42.000 And they don't have a lot of ground operators.

01:42:45.000 The globalists control the big banks and the media and systems.

01:42:47.000 They don't control the rank and file.

01:42:49.000 They have to control them through brainwashing.

01:42:52.000 And it just doesn't seem to be working.

01:42:53.000 And there's so many people in NSA, Defense Intelligence, FBI, CIA that are good, but are leaking all this.

01:43:01.000 That's why they haven't moved faster.

01:43:03.000 They're in a lot of trouble.

01:43:04.000 We're in this fight.

01:43:05.000 I mean, it's down to the 12th round, heavyweight boxing, the people against the New World Order, both sides have got eyes full shut, blood pouring out, loose teeth, and I'm telling you, we better fire up and fight even harder and just, you know, to win this thing or we're about to get KO'd.

01:43:21.000 Well, they are definitely winning, and credit to you for the good work you're doing.

01:43:26.000 I just wonder, you know, do those weapons of mass destruction exist?

01:43:32.000 They do if they want them to, but I wonder whether... Well, they know... We'll see, we have to make the UN be the good cops.

01:43:37.000 We have to embarrass America.

01:43:38.000 We do the work of the bankers and we get the blame.

01:43:41.000 And then the UN plays the part of the good guys.

01:43:43.000 Thanks for the call.

01:43:44.000 Thank you.

01:43:45.000 But we know they exist in Syria.

01:43:49.000 We know they exist in Pakistan.

01:43:52.000 And by weapons of mass destruction, folks, I mean, they consider any chemical weapon a weapon of mass destruction.

01:43:57.000 But everybody's got them.

01:43:59.000 And we know Syria's got some of that. 0.52

01:44:01.000 But nothing compared to other countries around them.

01:44:04.000 We know Pakistan has the nuke and medium-range missiles. 0.98

01:44:08.000 And they can go, what, 2,500 miles?

01:44:11.000 I guess I shouldn't say medium-range.

01:44:13.000 Intermediate-range is the proper term.

01:44:16.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Let's talk to Michael in Texas.

01:44:22.000 Go ahead, Michael.

01:44:23.000 Hi, Alex.

01:44:24.000 I was wondering if you're familiar with the book Patriots by James Wesley Rawls?

01:44:30.000 Yeah, it's a great book.

01:44:31.000 I was wondering if you are ever going to get him on your talk show.

01:44:35.000 What happened is about four years ago I was going to get him on.

01:44:38.000 A big news story came up.

01:44:40.000 I canceled the poor guy.

01:44:42.000 And then I've always meant to contact him and get him on.

01:44:45.000 I just hadn't done it.

01:44:46.000 But I apologize for doing that.

01:44:49.000 It was a big news day.

01:44:49.000 I forget what it was.

01:44:50.000 A lot of times I cancel guests.

01:44:52.000 You just never know about it because a bunch of stuff comes up.

01:44:54.000 I just go, that's it.

01:44:55.000 I'm not taking guests.

01:44:57.000 But, yeah, I want to get him back on, or get him on.

01:45:00.000 I think that would be great, because I'm not trying to brag or anything.

01:45:06.000 I've been aware of the New World Order for 11 years already, since Waco woke me up. 0.78

01:45:11.000 Well, good!

01:45:12.000 And I'm only 25.

01:45:15.000 And you make some pretty interesting points about a UN-Federal collaboration after martial law was declared.

01:45:24.000 Yeah, that's going to be how it works.

01:45:26.000 That's the setup with the Southwest and all that, yeah.

01:45:32.000 United European troops coming over here and enforcing U.N.

01:45:35.000 law?

01:45:35.000 Well, I'll tell you who talks about that now is General McKenzie at the U.N.

01:45:38.000 on Nightline.

01:45:41.000 The current Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, Wesley Clark, has given briefings saying that two years ago.

01:45:47.000 They are getting ready for martial law and firing troops.

01:45:50.000 They say, quote, if our troops are tied down in the war on terror overseas, foreign assets will be used to secure the homeland.

01:45:58.000 That's the current Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman's quote.

01:46:02.000 By the way, your taped 9-1-1, The Road to Tyranny, and The Masters of Terror, Rolls Bohemian Grove.

01:46:09.000 I have been giving them, selectively giving them to people, I think, that could think for themselves.

01:46:17.000 And it has been waking them up.

01:46:21.000 Good.

01:46:21.000 Thanks for the call.

01:46:22.000 I think everybody's a little awake subconsciously, but these push you out into the conscious mind and real intelligence.

01:46:29.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Arkansas.

01:46:32.000 Joe, welcome.

01:46:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:46:33.000 I wanted to tell you what I was told when I called to the detention center in Sheridan, Wyoming yesterday where Carl Klein is being held.

01:46:39.000 And that's the Patriot musician?

01:46:41.000 Yes.

01:46:42.000 And so I asked why they were holding him, and I was told it was a destruction of poverty charge.

01:46:48.000 And I asked, isn't it usual for somebody to be out on bail pretty soon?

01:46:51.000 You know, on a charge like this, is he going to be out on bail pretty soon?

01:46:54.000 And the man told me that yes, that there was going to be a court hearing about it.

01:46:59.000 And by the way, he's been in there two months and nine days now, and he was arrested.

01:47:04.000 They told us on the phone, the district attorney's office, or county attorney, excuse me, they said that he was arrested for trespassing, and then he did something in the jail for a destruction of property charge.

01:47:17.000 Again, and then they've been doing some type of psychological evaluation, and two months and nine days for trespassing.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, so I was told by this man, I don't know if he was lying or not, but I was told that he was going to have some kind of a court hearing around the end of the week.

01:47:33.000 So we'll see.

01:47:34.000 That's what we were told.

01:47:34.000 We were told Friday.

01:47:37.000 Okay.

01:47:38.000 That's about all I have right now.

01:47:39.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:47:39.000 Bye.

01:47:39.000 Hey, thank you.

01:47:40.000 I appreciate the call, Joe.

01:47:41.000 Does anybody have comments about our government?

01:47:45.000 More than what Powell was saying, not just allowing them to arm enemies and protecting them and calling FBI off the investigation, but U.S.

01:47:51.000 companies have been selling them the goodies, as well as the Europeans.

01:47:54.000 That's been allowed to come out in our news, but not that our government's doing it.

01:47:58.000 But, I mean, who's the terror threat?

01:48:00.000 Our government protecting those arming our enemies with nuclear weapons?

01:48:05.000 Or When a young teenager walks into a travel agency and the police run after him and say, who are you?

01:48:11.000 Are you a terrorist?

01:48:12.000 No, this is the Patriot Act.

01:48:13.000 We have to ask these questions.

01:48:14.000 I mean, the Patriot Act being used against county commissioners, topless bars, pot dealers, Rush Limbaugh.

01:48:21.000 Is that what we're supposed to be doing here?

01:48:25.000 No, the answer is no.

01:48:28.000 But that's where it's all focused.

01:48:30.000 It's focused on you. 1.00

01:48:31.000 You're the terrorist. 0.99

01:48:32.000 I just want you to understand that. 0.86

01:48:33.000 Homeschoolers, Christians, gun owners, environmentalists, left, right, doesn't matter. 1.00

01:48:38.000 Anybody who doesn't lick boots properly and doesn't want to be a little mindless idiot slave is being caught in this net. 1.00

01:48:44.000 The good news is folks are waking up. 1.00

01:48:46.000 Tom in Colorado, thanks for holding.

01:48:48.000 Go ahead.

01:48:48.000 Hi, thanks Alex.

01:48:51.000 This is probably off topic, but I had another, or I came across another example of... Sir, there's no topic.

01:48:56.000 We're all over the map on this show.

01:48:57.000 Go ahead.

01:48:58.000 I came across another example of hidden in plain view years ago.

01:49:03.000 I saw, you're probably familiar with David Icke.

01:49:06.000 I've had him on the show.

01:49:08.000 Okay, yeah, he's done a lot of research on symbolism.

01:49:12.000 And seeing your recent video on the website jogged my memory about this, that the streets around the White House are actually in the shape of an owl.

01:49:22.000 Well, it's an owl inside a giant pentagram, and the owl's belly is the Capitol Building.

01:49:29.000 I think it's at his mouth, actually.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, it's the White House's belly, excuse me. 0.93

01:49:34.000 And then the owl's, I don't want to get too graphic here, the owl's genitalia is the giant obelisk.

01:49:43.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:49:45.000 And by the way, they admit it's laid out.

01:49:47.000 I was watching some PBS special.

01:49:48.000 It must have been eight years ago.

01:49:49.000 It was a long time ago.

01:49:50.000 I know that.

01:49:51.000 Years and years ago when I first got on the air.

01:49:54.000 And they were doing the history of D.C.

01:49:56.000 and how they built it.

01:49:57.000 You can go research this online.

01:49:59.000 The main architect was a big mason and it is set up in an occult fashion.

01:50:04.000 So there's no debate of that.

01:50:10.000 So it's incredible.

01:50:12.000 Right in our face.

01:50:15.000 It is right in our face.

01:50:17.000 But, you know, what are you going to do?

01:50:19.000 I guess you can just get folks to try to notice it.

01:50:22.000 Anything else?

01:50:22.000 Right.

01:50:23.000 No, that's all I had.

01:50:24.000 Thanks.

01:50:25.000 Okay, thank you.

01:50:26.000 We'll continue rolling with your calls into the next hour, and I have covered about a third of the stack of news here.

01:50:26.000 You bet.

01:50:32.000 And I've got a recap of other top stories coming up.

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01:54:54.000 Let's go to Ron in Oklahoma, then Ron in New York, Sean in Rhode Island, Chris in North Carolina, Tim in Ohio, and others.

01:55:01.000 Go ahead, Ron in Oklahoma.

01:55:02.000 Alex, the FBI simply doesn't have the assets to invest in what Dr. Khan and Pakistan, when they've got all their assets tied up in Oklahoma City. 0.87

01:55:15.000 Surveilling Pakistani-owned container stores and businesses and restaurants owned by Middle Eastern people.

01:55:22.000 But also, yes, here in Oklahoma City... Sounds like you got a cold, but speak up for me.

01:55:27.000 I'm sorry, I do.

01:55:28.000 I'm a horse or cow or something.

01:55:30.000 Can you hear me?

01:55:31.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:55:31.000 I hear you better now.

01:55:32.000 Okay.

01:55:33.000 Here in Oklahoma City, yes, the U.S.

01:55:35.000 Drug Enforcement agent, with guns drawn in full view of his family members, Mistakenly restrained and took down John Baker, who is a criminal justice investigator and police investigator, next executive board member of the Oklahoma City NAACP.

01:55:56.000 This was all a big mistake.

01:55:57.000 They were looking for somebody else, but they took this guy down and stole a few of his family.

01:56:02.000 Well, you know what's happening more and more is a cop's daughter in Texas Goes to Miami for vacation, gets raped by cops, uh, you know, a politician's wife at the, um, big Michigan Detroit airport, uh, has her $10,000 diamond necklace grabbed by a laughing, uh, you know, uh, foreigner, uh, who's at a security station. 0.51

01:56:23.000 I mean, this is all happening.

01:56:25.000 And it's happening more and more and more.

01:56:27.000 So, these guys are getting their own medicine.

01:56:30.000 And, uh, you know, I'm too bad it's happening to them, but, you know, this is what goes on.

01:56:34.000 Well, also, Alex, here in Oklahoma City, we have a DynCorp operation, Tinker Air Force Base.

01:56:40.000 Alex, I've been on property out there.

01:56:43.000 You can have to sneak up on those people to catch them working, and then it's almost impossible.

01:56:49.000 I'd like to know what's going on.

01:56:52.000 Well, DynCorp was convicted in the civil court of kidnapping 200,000 women and children in 2000 alone.

01:56:58.000 I don't know.

01:57:00.000 But they got all the big Iraq contracts.

01:57:01.000 They're good folks.

01:57:03.000 They're the people out arresting Iraqis who don't wear RFID bracelets to have any job anywhere, street market, you name it. 0.52

01:57:09.000 You've got to be Halliburton approved and pay a percentage of your money to them.

01:57:13.000 I have to assume they get a percentage on each employee they hire.

01:57:17.000 That's where they make their money. 0.97

01:57:18.000 I don't know.

01:57:18.000 Well, it's all about slavery.

01:57:20.000 DynCorp is a government operation.

01:57:23.000 Also, Alex, when you tell a lie, make it big, repeat it often, and most People will believe it, and that certainly seems to be what the government is doing now.

01:57:33.000 Yeah, Bush releases his military records and they show he was AWOL, and he says, see, I'm not AWOL.

01:57:39.000 And he refuses to talk about it.

01:57:41.000 Well, we won't go there.

01:57:42.000 We're not going to talk about that.

01:57:44.000 And that's the way it was during the 2000 election, too, if you remember when people brought up his drug and alcohol abuse.

01:57:51.000 Well, we're not going there.

01:57:52.000 Well, the reporter that put the story out, the story's been proven to be accurate, he died in a bathtub.

01:57:58.000 I was going to ask Greg Palast how many threats he gets.

01:58:00.000 Thanks for the call, Ron.

01:58:01.000 Thank you.

01:58:02.000 We've got a break now.

01:58:03.000 We'll come back to Ron in New York and Sean and Chris and Tim and others.

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02:00:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:08.000 Well, it happened again on Tuesday. 0.95

02:00:13.000 Last week, the racist, American-hating Mexicans Down in Mexico, booed the star-spangled banner before the Olympic soccer game qualifying tournament. 0.93

02:00:25.000 They then chanted Osama, Osama, Osama, drowning out even the other crowd noise. 0.96

02:00:31.000 And it happened again on Tuesday where the Americans lost.

02:00:35.000 And this is who Bush wants the borders to be open to.

02:00:37.000 Our federal government funds these type of ideas.

02:00:39.000 And what does Bush, his business partner Bin Laden, and racist Mexicans have in common? 0.99

02:00:44.000 They all hate America. 0.99

02:00:45.000 We'll get back into that.

02:00:47.000 Also, a ton of other news I haven't even covered yet.

02:00:50.000 Right now, let's go back to these loaded phone lines.

02:00:52.000 They're always interesting.

02:00:54.000 And let's talk to Ron in New York, and we'll go to Sean, Chris, Tim, Kurt, and others.

02:00:59.000 Go ahead, Ron in New York.

02:01:01.000 Hello, Alex.

02:01:01.000 Alex, I'd like to mention three things, very interesting things.

02:01:06.000 In our local newspaper, New York Newsday here in New York, in the early part of this month, there was an article in there written by a man, an investigative journalist named Curtis Taylor.

02:01:16.000 It dealt with how municipal pension funds, of which I'm a member of, may have been depositing, the local control in New York City may have been depositing money in banks that turned around and gave Saddam Hussein credit throughout the years.

02:01:30.000 Now that goes back to BCCI and that whole private cash machine.

02:01:34.000 It gets better, Alex.

02:01:36.000 So I called this journalist up.

02:01:37.000 I spoke with him personally.

02:01:39.000 And he said yes, and that the control of New York City was now addressing that problem. 1.00

02:01:43.000 However, in the course of that conversation, he told me that in his investigation, it came out, he was chuckling as he was saying it, because he thought it was, you know, so outrageous in a way, it's like, how could people be so stupid? 0.97

02:01:54.000 American businessmen, American businessmen, since the first Gulf War, formed offshore corporations. 0.97

02:02:03.000 And they were doing business with Saddam Hussein right up to the last minute.

02:02:08.000 Let me tell you how this works.

02:02:13.000 Look, for those that just joined us, everything that our caller, Ron, is saying, I already have the mainstream news articles on it.

02:02:19.000 The average person just never hears about it.

02:02:21.000 Let me explain the magnitude of this.

02:02:23.000 The way the sanctions were written by the Security Council, controlled by the bankers in New York, was that Saddam couldn't buy anything or sell anything but through them, namely Dick Cheney and James Baker and just a few dozen others.

02:02:39.000 And so right up until a month before the invasion, during the troop buildup, during the troop buildup, He could only buy oil filled equipment, weapons components, you name it, from Dick Cheney and others.

02:02:55.000 And then they stand up and talk about how evil Saddam is and how anybody who trades with the enemy has got to be arrested.

02:03:00.000 And there they are, whether it's Al Qaeda, Saddam, Pakistan, everything.

02:03:07.000 And they take your pension money to do it.

02:03:09.000 And the funny part about it is, Alex, instead of them checking out these so-called American businessmen, they're hassling young guys who are jogging across a crosswalk and worried about the patriotism of simple people like that and old grannies and so forth. 0.90

02:03:25.000 Now, the second story I have is from a civil service journal here in New York called The Chief.

02:03:30.000 The New York City Council voted, 36 to 13 with one abstention, to pass a resolution Calling for the United States Congress to repeal certain aspects of the Patriot Act.

02:03:42.000 They had a rally when they announced the result of this vote, and at this rally was a woman who belongs to a group called Peaceful Tomorrow.

02:03:49.000 It's an anti-war group which consists of families of people killed in the September 11th attack.

02:03:56.000 This woman in particular, Adelaide Welty, her son was a fireman, killed in the Twin Towers.

02:04:01.000 And we had the organizer of that on last, uh, first hour.

02:04:04.000 So, my point is, you can't accuse this woman of being a communist subversive.

02:04:07.000 She gave her son up to those efforts, okay?

02:04:10.000 He lost his life.

02:04:11.000 And she made this statement, I think it was a very brave thing for her to say and do.

02:04:15.000 She indicated that the administration is using American fears of further terrorist attacks, and this is a quote, to push its agenda for regime change abroad and repression at home.

02:04:26.000 And this is what this woman said.

02:04:28.000 I think it's time that we have to take heed to what's going on.

02:04:30.000 And lastly, Alex, I'd just like to mention, maybe it would be a great guest to have on your show.

02:04:35.000 It's a male-female, uh, group.

02:04:37.000 They're on the Pacifica Network.

02:04:39.000 They do a show testing the... Just email me the info.

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02:08:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:07.000 Alright, we have loaded phone lines, an absolute news blitz of key information, a recap of top stories at the end of the show as well.

02:08:15.000 Got about 51 minutes left.

02:08:17.000 We got loaded phone lines here.

02:08:20.000 But before I go, back to callers in order, Sean and Chris and Tim and Kurt and others, I got a rule.

02:08:27.000 If you disagree with me, you go to the front of the line.

02:08:31.000 Number one, we don't screen calls here.

02:08:33.000 We just say, what are you calling about in case you disagree?

02:08:36.000 We ask where you're calling from, your first name, and hey, sometimes we ask, well, what are you calling about?

02:08:40.000 Because we want to know if you disagree.

02:08:42.000 We asked Richard in Texas, what do you want to talk about?

02:08:45.000 And he said, I just agree with Alex about his racist attitude towards Mexicans.

02:08:49.000 Before I go to Richard, let me just explain this.

02:08:51.000 If you go back and listen to what I said, maybe he's a new listener, is that I have a lot of Hispanic friends.

02:08:58.000 They're the most highly decorated, statistically, people in our military, Congressional Medal of Honor winners, all that.

02:09:04.000 I said, racist Mexicans In Mexico, in Guadalajara, and in another soccer match, booed the Star-Spangled Banner and chanted, Osama, Osama, Osama. 0.99

02:09:15.000 And yeah, they're racist. 1.00

02:09:18.000 Now, I have gone to the METCHA website, I've read their quotes, I've shown video of them with signs of people, white people's heads cut off, saying, we're gonna kill the white man. 1.00

02:09:28.000 Now that's racism! 0.97

02:09:30.000 Now I've gone out and bullhorned the Klan, and I've gone out and bullhorned METCHA. 0.74

02:09:34.000 And last time I checked, I didn't see white people starting groups called The Race.

02:09:39.000 La Raza.

02:09:39.000 I mean, this is getting to be out of control.

02:09:42.000 And this political correctness that if you criticize, you know, groups... I mean, Khalid Mohammed says, kill all white people, kill all white women, kill all babies. 1.00

02:09:51.000 I've played the clip here many times. 1.00

02:09:55.000 Every nine months, a white woman lays down on her back and out rolls reinforcement. 1.00

02:10:00.000 Why do you say, kill a little blue-eyed baby? 1.00

02:10:03.000 Because that little white devil's gonna grow up and we gotta kill them all! 1.00

02:10:07.000 I mean, that's racism! 1.00

02:10:09.000 And I'm sick of it!

02:10:10.000 And I will stand up against it!

02:10:12.000 Now, let's go to Richard in Texas.

02:10:14.000 Go ahead, Richard.

02:10:16.000 Well, thanks for putting me at the front of the line.

02:10:20.000 And, uh... I can't really disagree with your previous tirade to a whole lot.

02:10:28.000 My point is this.

02:10:32.000 Although...

02:10:33.000 There's racism in every group of people.

02:10:36.000 The white woman is the military manufacturing center! 1.00

02:10:41.000 Whatever. 0.57

02:10:42.000 Uh... I know Mexicans.

02:10:45.000 I've traveled into Mexico, uh, a number of times.

02:10:49.000 I speak passable Spanish.

02:10:51.000 I'm, you know, I'm white as a Klansman, except I couldn't stand to be one of them. 0.87

02:10:56.000 But, there is... Okay, well, who do you think's Channing Osama? 0.65

02:11:01.000 The Easter Bunny?

02:11:03.000 The people that are being inspired by the American government.

02:11:07.000 What I'm saying here is the problem... All I know is when I'm eating somewhere, the Mexicans... Could I speak just a moment? 1.00

02:11:12.000 Hold on a second, hold on a second.

02:11:14.000 I talk just like this on my TV show, here in Austin, and all I know is, is that I, every time I eat at a Mexican food restaurant, my food's paid for.

02:11:23.000 Okay?

02:11:24.000 I mean, I just, look, look, Mexicans who are patriotic and American know I'm telling the truth, because they're around it.

02:11:31.000 And that's, that's the truth, my friend.

02:11:34.000 Okay, if I could speak just a little bit.

02:11:35.000 Okay, go ahead, talk.

02:11:38.000 Your statements about the racism and all of this sort of stuff that, you know, is anti-American, you're reflecting only a minority of the Mexican attitude that's been inspired by U.S.

02:11:54.000 government stuff, okay?

02:11:58.000 Well, I gotta agree with it.

02:11:59.000 Make your point and then I'll comment.

02:12:02.000 Okay, I think what I'm saying is it's counterproductive to say that.

02:12:07.000 There are reasons that a lot of Mexicans dislike the American government.

02:12:15.000 I mean, we took over what was their supposed territory.

02:12:22.000 Here, let's be clear on that.

02:12:23.000 My ancestors did.

02:12:25.000 Well, mine did too.

02:12:27.000 I'm white as the day is long.

02:12:30.000 Sir, sir, sir!

02:12:32.000 There's a whole lot of people with brown skin walking around here who took it away from them, too. 1.00

02:12:38.000 You know who wrote the Texas Constitution?

02:12:41.000 Well, I know who wrote the Mexican Constitution in 1821.

02:12:43.000 But do you know who wrote the Constitution?

02:12:47.000 A third of our force was Tejanos!

02:12:49.000 I agree with you, and I'm not arguing with you, Alex!

02:12:55.000 Ah!

02:12:55.000 Go ahead.

02:12:56.000 I'm trying to make a point here, okay?

02:13:00.000 But Mexicans are not racist.

02:13:02.000 I've traveled down there in two different ways.

02:13:05.000 That's like saying white people aren't racist.

02:13:08.000 Because you're not racist, you don't think there aren't whites that aren't racist?

02:13:11.000 Some are, but I'm not trying to argue.

02:13:13.000 I'm trying to make a point.

02:13:16.000 There have been bad things done to almost all of the Latin Americans by the American government.

02:13:24.000 A lot of them have resentment about that.

02:13:30.000 For good reason.

02:13:31.000 Are you familiar with the provisions of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?

02:13:37.000 Yeah, I'm familiar with it.

02:13:38.000 I've read it.

02:13:39.000 Okay.

02:13:40.000 Do you know one of the things that it said when we took over basically New Mexico and Arizona?

02:13:46.000 Well, let's see what you say, Scrooge.

02:13:47.000 Go ahead.

02:13:52.000 Spanish and Mexican land grants for land there would be honored by the American government.

02:13:57.000 That is, those who held the land would also be able to hold it under American provision.

02:14:04.000 The first thing that happened as soon as it was taken over, and it took some time, but as soon as we moved in there... Make your point, I've got to move on.

02:14:15.000 They started taking the land back from these people.

02:14:18.000 The other thing that I want to make, one other point.

02:14:21.000 Is that we have messed in Central American and Mexican politics negatively ever since this country has been in existence.

02:14:29.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

02:14:30.000 I appreciate it.

02:14:31.000 I've got a bunch of callers and I've got a many guests I've got to get on here.

02:14:34.000 But let me just say this.

02:14:37.000 I'm not going to defend things that the government has done.

02:14:44.000 But our government compared to the Mexican government under Santa Ana and those that came after him were saints. 0.99

02:14:50.000 You can't own land in Mexico.

02:14:54.000 It's a tiny fraction, just a few hundred families that own almost all of it.

02:15:00.000 Okay, now in Mexico you can come up here and own land.

02:15:03.000 And what you just said isn't true because in South Texas, almost all the richest families in Southwest Texas all have Spanish surnames and they were Tejanos.

02:15:19.000 And they own the businesses, they own hundreds of thousands of acres.

02:15:22.000 It's just not true.

02:15:24.000 Now, were there range wars?

02:15:25.000 Did white people get run off land?

02:15:27.000 Did Mexicans get run off land? 0.86

02:15:30.000 Absolutely.

02:15:31.000 That did go on, and that happened to everybody.

02:15:34.000 But Mexico, and most of the Mexicans I talk to who are illegals, and my wife speaks Spanish, she speaks German, she speaks French, she speaks it all. 0.98

02:15:44.000 Because her dad was a diplomat, she grew up in Europe.

02:15:47.000 You know, she hears the comments.

02:15:49.000 She knows what's going on.

02:15:50.000 I'm not talking about, you know, the Mexican peasants, the hard-working, you know, nice Christian people.

02:15:56.000 I'm talking about those out of the colleges and the people that are out there organizing and printing up the comic books and all the stuff that puts out this lie.

02:16:06.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:16:08.000 And Mexico, you know, the French, The Russians tried to claim part of this country. 0.79

02:16:13.000 Everybody was grabbing it.

02:16:14.000 It belonged to the Indians.

02:16:15.000 It didn't, you know, Native Americans. 0.52

02:16:16.000 It didn't belong to Mexico.

02:16:17.000 It didn't belong to us.

02:16:19.000 And for Mexico to say the Southwest belongs to them, and to have South Texas towns flying the Mexican flag and no American flag, and saying you can't speak English in court proceedings, and the documents are in Spanish, that's wrong!

02:16:29.000 And there's a Lurican Quista going on! 1.00

02:16:32.000 A reconquering!

02:16:34.000 And that New York runs it because they want to break this country up. 0.85

02:16:37.000 Now, that's the fact.

02:16:39.000 Is Latin America mad because the CIA overthrows their governments and kills people in death squads? 0.64

02:16:43.000 Yes.

02:16:43.000 Is that wrong?

02:16:44.000 Yes.

02:16:45.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

02:16:48.000 But many times their corrupt governments blame everything on the U.S.

02:16:53.000 government and use that as a tool of control. 0.62

02:16:55.000 And I'm saying we've got a big group of people that don't like America pouring in here.

02:16:59.000 Now that's the facts.

02:17:00.000 Alright, we're going to go to the loaded phones, but I appreciate Jim Shepard holding for the last eight minutes.

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02:17:14.000 Jim, thanks for coming on the show.

02:17:16.000 It's a pleasure.

02:17:17.000 By the way, I was listening to your previous caller, and I'd like to make just a couple points on that.

02:17:23.000 First of all, the land grants were not revoked.

02:17:26.000 In Colorado and New Mexico, there are large land grants.

02:17:31.000 That predate these territories being annexed into the United States.

02:17:36.000 One of them that comes to mind is the Baca land grant.

02:17:40.000 And so, I really didn't quite follow what the caller was saying on that.

02:17:47.000 Now, I think that he did make two good points.

02:17:50.000 I think that one of the points he was trying to make was that the government, that the people down there can probably distinguish the difference between the government and the people.

02:18:00.000 And then I would make one other point.

02:18:01.000 In my travels in Mexico, what I found was that, especially the border towns, and then the large cities like Mexico City, man, I'll tell you what, there's some of those people that'll kill you for two pesos in your pocket.

02:18:15.000 And then you get out in the rural areas, and they are some of the kindest people that you will ever meet.

02:18:20.000 Well, that's the point I was making.

02:18:22.000 That's the point I was making. 0.98

02:18:25.000 I'd say half the Mexicans hate America. 0.97

02:18:27.000 I'm talking about the ones in Mexico.

02:18:28.000 And the other half are good people.

02:18:31.000 This is a fact, folks.

02:18:35.000 It's just been my observation that when you get into the large cities, and of course that's probably true here in the United States too, you get into the large cities and people tend to be a little bit more keyed up than country folk.

02:18:47.000 But for me it was absolutely stark, the difference.

02:18:52.000 My first impression of Mexico was the border town.

02:18:55.000 And it scared me to death, and I got down in there 500,000 miles down, and I could not believe how kind and genuine and good-natured these people were.

02:19:06.000 And I think that you made a good point, also, with respect to the government systems.

02:19:11.000 Unfortunately, in Latin America, there's always been a patronage system, where when somebody gets into office, the first people they take care of is family.

02:19:20.000 And unfortunately, that breeds corruption.

02:19:22.000 And God bless those people that live under those governmental systems that have patronage down there.

02:19:27.000 That's one thing that we have not had to deal with here in the United States.

02:19:32.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why we have been so prosperous.

02:19:35.000 Well, that's it.

02:19:36.000 So, you know, we'll be right back, Jim, to plug the filters and we'll go to calls.

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02:23:57.000 I'm going to shotgun Through the oldest calls that have been holding here after we're done with Jim, Sean and Chris and Tim and Curt and Pat, that'll be it for calls.

02:24:08.000 Then I'll spend about 15 minutes blitzkrieging through the final T-News items here.

02:24:15.000 Jim Shepard, herbicides, pesticides, sodium fluoride, chlorine, dead bacteria, uh, uh... Life bacteria?

02:24:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:24:24.000 Affluent from sewer systems, Ritalin, Prozac, It's in the water supply.

02:24:29.000 Hormones from birth control pills.

02:24:31.000 It's admitted.

02:24:31.000 It's horrible.

02:24:32.000 Only a nut would drink tap water.

02:24:34.000 I was at a restaurant last night and, uh...

02:24:38.000 And you know, they didn't have bottled water, which I don't even like.

02:24:41.000 And then I tried to take a sip of tap water.

02:24:43.000 It tasted horrible.

02:24:44.000 People gotta stop drinking this.

02:24:46.000 How do we take control of our lives when we won't even stop drinking the poison water?

02:24:50.000 70% of your body is water, folks.

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02:25:06.000 What are the specials, Jim?

02:25:07.000 Okay, I'm going to modify the specials specifically because of the nuclear maneuvers that Russia is going to be doing starting the next week.

02:25:16.000 Have you briefed your audience on that?

02:25:19.000 I mentioned it in the first hour, but yeah, they're doing nuclear attack drills and... Basically, they're going to be launching intercontinental ballistic missiles, shooting missiles off from submarines.

02:25:30.000 They're going to be mimicking a seven-hour nuclear war.

02:25:33.000 They're going to be launching satellites into the space and so on and so forth.

02:25:38.000 So, the special this month is the Berkey Light without the lights and a free sport bottle.

02:25:47.000 Uh, for folks who want to avail themselves of that special, uh, you can, uh, swap out the sport bottle for potassium iodate.

02:25:54.000 Just in case anything crazy would go on, if you feel like that, if that will make you more comfortable, then you can swap it out.

02:25:59.000 Well, everybody should have potassium iodide, because how many Austinites know they have a pretty good-sized nuclear reactor, an old one, at UT?

02:26:07.000 No one seems to know that.

02:26:08.000 It could have a problem.

02:26:09.000 There's the South Texas Nuclear Project, a gigantic complex down there, one of the biggest nuclear reactors in the country.

02:26:17.000 So-called terrorists could attack it.

02:26:19.000 Uh, I mean, yes.

02:26:20.000 I have about, well, I bought about 20 bottles from you and I gave about 12 of them away to family and friends, but I've got eight bottles, uh, one in each car.

02:26:28.000 I mean, this is the number one cause of death.

02:26:30.000 If there is a radiation event, it's the thyroid filling and then literally rotting in your body.

02:26:35.000 Uh, so, uh, absolutely.

02:26:36.000 And of course, that wind can carry the nuclear fallout from an event like that, uh, for two, three hundred miles.

02:26:45.000 And so, uh, So we're going to modify the special where you can have your choice of the sport bottle or the potassium iodate.

02:26:53.000 If you get the Berkey light with the light, then you can get two sport bottles or two potassium iodate, or you can get one of each mix and match.

02:27:02.000 And then we have the other sport bottle special that's five uh... sport bottles for ninety nine dollars and these are

02:27:09.000 the generic sport bottles uh... same thing as the burke sport that's just

02:27:13.000 that we've make some uh... generic for certain purposes

02:27:17.000 and uh...

02:27:18.000 and then that or you can get a dozen of them for one ninety nine and that is also a mix and match

02:27:23.000 If you want to get, you know, some of the potassium iodate in lieu of the sport bottles, you can do that.

02:27:30.000 And by the way, the Feds have bought this for all their agencies, the Postal Service people, but somehow haven't told us to get it.

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02:27:53.000 Anything else, Jim?

02:27:55.000 Well, I think that you just made a good point, Alex, that government agencies across the United States are stockpiling potassium iodate, and somehow the people themselves are being left out.

02:28:06.000 And if you don't want to be dependent upon some government agency to be kind enough to pass it out to you before a nuclear event, uh... then you really ought to do with the government is

02:28:15.000 going to start getting some of that stuff in your own possession

02:28:18.000 one triple eight eight oh three four four three eight thanks for coming on

02:28:22.000 jim always a pleasure we're gonna break come back 0.98

02:28:26.000 go to your calls immediately let's just go to one right now shanon rhode island shan thanks for holding her on the air

02:28:32.000 a good sir first-time caller

02:28:35.000 love you shanell well thank you i just want to make a point

02:28:40.000 i would just say america the land of the confused in the world headquarters of the

02:28:46.000 brainwashed Yeah.

02:28:48.000 America is scared of people like me. 0.90

02:28:50.000 And what they will do, even their own kind, is put them in the ground. 0.99

02:28:54.000 Because information is leaked out.

02:28:56.000 Now if you look back through history, America was founded on gangs.

02:29:01.000 Now today we have the FBI, we have the police, we have the CIA, all gangs.

02:29:06.000 Even the correction officers are gangs.

02:29:09.000 I'll tell you what, stay there, you're making a good point.

02:29:14.000 We have hereditary mafia, wasp mafia, out of the East Coast, right where you're sitting in Rhode Island, and they're ruthless, and they're destroying America.

02:29:25.000 And they're a global organized crime syndicate.

02:29:28.000 That's what the new rule order is.

02:29:29.000 It's a global crime syndicate that runs the government.

02:29:32.000 Stay there, I'll let you finish up, Sean.

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02:32:58.000 Let me just briefly mention this article.

02:33:03.000 This is out of the Hindustan Times.

02:33:05.000 Got a bunch of other stories here.

02:33:06.000 Russia launches nuclear war games.

02:33:08.000 Russia notified the United States on Tuesday that it has launched war games that involve the test launch of intercontinental missiles and flights by its heavy nuclear bombers.

02:33:17.000 Deputy Chief of Staff General Yuri Bolovansky Stress that the exercises are being conducted, quote, in order to prevent aggression and military pressure being applied to Russia.

02:33:31.000 And by the way, about a year ago, the BBC reported they put all the red stars and peppers and sickles back on the aircraft and tanks.

02:33:39.000 That's our little friends.

02:33:41.000 But don't worry, we've got all the colleges watched and the borders open and citizens being tracked and traced.

02:33:47.000 Don't worry.

02:33:48.000 Pakistan's arming everyone. 0.96

02:33:51.000 Our government's armed North Korea, but again, don't worry, just give your rights up, let the police wear black ski masks and put cameras up in the schools. 0.93

02:34:00.000 Going back to Sean in Rhode Island, yeah, the New World Order is a handful of families who run their own hereditary organized crime syndicates over different sectors of the economy, and they have their own little criminal gangs that work for them, and it's the same psychology.

02:34:16.000 Go ahead and finish up, Sean.

02:34:17.000 Yeah, basically I just want to Take that and let that be out in the open for people who was blind to the fact of that.

02:34:24.000 I just really wanted to call to put out a couple little things here.

02:34:27.000 And I just want to make this other, two more points and I'm going to let you be.

02:34:30.000 I want to let you people know, if you ever look to America for something, look at this.

02:34:36.000 There's gangs in America.

02:34:38.000 There's Bloods, there's Crips, there's all kinds of gangs.

02:34:41.000 Somebody shoots somebody who's somebody's family member.

02:34:44.000 There's going to be a retaliation.

02:34:46.000 America is the same way. 0.78

02:34:49.000 But ain't nobody killed anybody that belongs to America.

02:34:52.000 If somebody drops a bomb in Pakistan, America's going to go over there and show them who the real killers are. 1.00

02:34:59.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:35:00.000 And when you say America, I want to make it clear.

02:35:02.000 Criminal elements using America as its shill. 0.89

02:35:06.000 Let's go ahead and go to Chris in North Carolina.

02:35:12.000 Go ahead.

02:35:13.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:35:13.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:35:13.000 Good.

02:35:14.000 I appreciate all the good work that you're doing every time I call.

02:35:17.000 Thank you very much.

02:35:18.000 I appreciate the great palace interview today, too.

02:35:23.000 Something happened here in North Carolina yesterday that has got me absolutely fired flat to the pit of my being.

02:35:29.000 In Raleigh, the capital city here, we had an 18-wheeler turnover yesterday in the middle of town.

02:35:37.000 The 18-wheeler was reportedly carrying military arms.

02:35:41.000 Our military arms.

02:35:42.000 This is not getting any national coverage.

02:35:45.000 I have called local talk shows here, supposedly conservative edges.

02:35:50.000 They won't talk about it.

02:35:51.000 I can't get any information from anyone as to where the truck was going, what its destination was, what route it was supposed to be taking.

02:35:59.000 This thing shut down a half mile radius all the way around the crash site. 0.96

02:36:09.000 In town, we're not talking about on a highway, not that that would have been bad enough or whatever, but have you seen reports of this?

02:36:17.000 Do you know why we would be using 18-wheelers to transport military weapons through major cities in North Carolina?

02:36:25.000 I mean, this is subcontracted out 18-wheelers or something like that.

02:36:31.000 Well, was this a side street or a major highway?

02:36:33.000 No, this was through the middle of town.

02:36:35.000 I mean, Alex, how hot do you have to be to get Masses from people.

02:36:40.000 I mean, now, to a lot of people, this might not sound like a lot.

02:36:43.000 What I'm trying to say is that it was weapons.

02:36:44.000 You want to know what type of weapons?

02:36:46.000 Well, I know they were shells, because you could see them from the video cameras on the 6 o'clock news last night.

02:36:52.000 But they won't tell what kind of shells, you know, what kind of armament.

02:36:56.000 Well, I know in Alabama they've been burning up all the old chemical weapons shells, but I...

02:37:01.000 No, I don't know.

02:37:02.000 I need some information.

02:37:03.000 I mean, I think they should tell us.

02:37:05.000 I have called WTVD 11, one of the local television stations here, and I'm supposed to be able to get video footage of that through that, or through their organization.

02:37:17.000 Now, here locally, about 40 miles northeast of Raleigh, there about, Camp Butner, an old World War II Camp Butner, It's for the most part shut down now.

02:37:32.000 It has really no military use available to it now at this point in time.

02:37:38.000 We are turning up, I guess, on an average of about 50 to 75 shells per year that were buried there for training during World War II.

02:37:51.000 Now, you know, that in and of itself is bad enough being that The local economy here for a little while was seemingly good in terms of people being able to refinance and build homes and that kind of thing.

02:38:03.000 Hey, how are shells buried in an old munitions area?

02:38:06.000 How is that tied into the economy?

02:38:08.000 Alright, well, that's what I'm getting ready to talk about.

02:38:15.000 The shells being buried in the old Camp Butner area, the economy that was good that produced Well, I say good.

02:38:27.000 The economy that produced financing low enough to get homes bought, land paid for, that kind of thing, built right on top of old Camp Butner.

02:38:37.000 So in the back of people's yards, here we go digging up mortar rounds and so forth.

02:38:43.000 Here locally, I don't know, maybe it's just my crazy mind working.

02:38:48.000 I'm kind of a little bit perturbed about the whole shell issue.

02:38:52.000 You know, we deal with this out here in this area enough And now we've got trucks turning over in the capital city, turning around bombs.

02:39:00.000 What do you do?

02:39:01.000 Who do you talk to?

02:39:03.000 Well, I agree.

02:39:04.000 They're not supposed to have big, live ordnance driving around the middle of cities.

02:39:08.000 And you need to complain so they don't do that.

02:39:12.000 And I appreciate the call.

02:39:13.000 I understand your concern.

02:39:15.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tim in Ohio.

02:39:18.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:39:19.000 Alex, always a pleasure.

02:39:21.000 I feel your pain.

02:39:23.000 I try to tell people every day.

02:39:27.000 It's like, you know, we are on borrowed time.

02:39:29.000 I know that the New World Order is working pre-Cambrian. 1.00

02:39:33.000 They say I'm a right-wing extremist now.

02:39:36.000 Anyway, it's tax time again, and I was wondering if you were going to have maybe Bob Schultz or Irwin Schiff on the show?

02:39:43.000 Yeah, I should do that.

02:39:44.000 And also, I was reading somewhere where, first of all, I loved your video when you went in and you asked GW about The Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations when they kidnapped you?

02:39:57.000 Ah, yes.

02:39:58.000 Now, I was reading somewhere where the Federal Reserve can actually be bought out for four million or a billion, I can't remember which one it is.

02:40:05.000 Four million or four billion dollars.

02:40:06.000 It's actually written into the Federal, the Banking Act of 1913.

02:40:10.000 Yeah, but the Treasury and the Congress has to agree to that.

02:40:13.000 And so, I mean, that's all the old laws.

02:40:15.000 I mean, they're not about to give it up.

02:40:18.000 I mean, sure, they have that clause in there, but that's for them.

02:40:21.000 They're not going to sell it to you.

02:40:22.000 Right.

02:40:23.000 I know what I'm saying.

02:40:23.000 But there's one way that we could, because that would just bring them to a grinding halt.

02:40:28.000 Take their money away.

02:40:29.000 Well, you don't think these criminals are just going to turn loose with things, do you?

02:40:31.000 Not at all.

02:40:32.000 You have to educate enough people for that process to begin.

02:40:35.000 Right.

02:40:35.000 That's what I thought about Bob Irwin.

02:40:37.000 Irwin's book, The Federal Mafia, is a great read.

02:40:40.000 It is.

02:40:42.000 And I must admit, I'm guilty of working for government, industry, the media, and education.

02:40:48.000 The BS got so high in each one of those I got out of them, and each time I got out of the pan and into the fire.

02:40:52.000 So, I don't know where I'm going to go next.

02:40:54.000 I told you a couple weeks ago I started my own organization, Truth, teaching and researching United States treasonous hierarchy.

02:40:59.000 Well, that's good!

02:41:01.000 This weekend, we are going to be going around to the different tax preparers, and we're going to have little cards, and we're going to be handing them out to people going into the tax preparers that ask them to ask their tax preparer Where does it say we have to pay?

02:41:14.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:41:15.000 Four simple questions.

02:41:16.000 And I would encourage other people to do that, too, around their area, because it's public property.

02:41:20.000 You can stand out in front of these buildings.

02:41:22.000 You can hand things out to people going in there.

02:41:24.000 And you can put the pressure on these places.

02:41:26.000 Great.

02:41:26.000 Thank you for the call, Tim.

02:41:28.000 Good to hear you're doing that.

02:41:30.000 Pat?

02:41:31.000 Okay, who's up next?

02:41:34.000 Leslie in Virginia.

02:41:35.000 Leslie, you go ahead.

02:41:36.000 I was about to go to Pat, but they hung up.

02:41:38.000 Okay.

02:41:39.000 Thanks, Alex, for taking my call.

02:41:40.000 I was listening to your callers, and I agree with all of them.

02:41:46.000 However, I think a lot of dissension has been directly... the cause and effect is with the World Bank and IMF.

02:41:55.000 And as you know, there is no, or if any, little oversight, except for when they come to Congress and beg for some more money.

02:42:02.000 Well, we're talking about over $200 billion within five years to the International Monetary Fund alone.

02:42:10.000 And what they do is they go to these Central American countries and South America.

02:42:14.000 I'm just giving you examples.

02:42:16.000 And they don't understand why the people outrage with this country.

02:42:19.000 I mean, this crowd does not... Well, yeah, in 1973 the IMF told the, what was it, the 50 most populous third world countries, they told them, you have to sterilize half your women forcibly or no more IMF or World Bank money.

02:42:34.000 So absolutely.

02:42:35.000 That's right and that's just one example of many and how these loans are made and I mean it's an extortion in my book.

02:42:42.000 Well they take our money that's fiat to begin with, backed up by our debt, then they go give it to dictators, tell them, and this has come out in World Bank and IMF documents, not to pay it back, they sign contracts signing the people, the land, the resources over to the globalists.

02:42:57.000 Bingo!

02:42:58.000 You got it.

02:42:59.000 And these people can't understand why People are very upset with Americans.

02:43:03.000 I mean, these globalists need to be put on notice.

02:43:07.000 IMF needs to be abolished, Alex.

02:43:09.000 Well, the globalists have been, again, using America as their front.

02:43:12.000 Then America gets demonized, and the American people get demonized.

02:43:16.000 It's not really America doing it. 0.59

02:43:18.000 That's correct.

02:43:19.000 We were this free, strong, wealthy country.

02:43:22.000 The globalists took over, have used our wealth, our energy, our minds.

02:43:25.000 Uh, to dominate the world and now they're dumbing us down and taking our jobs and making us third world serfs as well. 0.54

02:43:31.000 You got it Alex, and the people need to wise up.

02:43:34.000 IMF needs to be abolished and I suggest that your listeners please call Congress and get this A corrupt cabal abolished once and for all.

02:43:44.000 Well, they're the owners of the Federal Reserve.

02:43:45.000 Thanks for the call.

02:43:47.000 They still need to be abolished.

02:43:48.000 Thank you.

02:43:49.000 Yeah, thank you.

02:43:50.000 And then it's the same bankers funding the textbooks and the comic books and the pamphlets in Mexico saying the Southwest belongs to Mexico.

02:43:58.000 Because they want to use these people to break the country down when they're the ones raping them. 0.97

02:44:05.000 That's the point I was trying to make earlier.

02:44:09.000 Who was he?

02:44:10.000 Richard from Texas?

02:44:12.000 All right, let me dive, and I mean dive, into the news here in the last 15 minutes as promised.

02:44:20.000 More news, then I'll recap some of the top stories at the very end of the show.

02:44:25.000 CNN money.

02:44:26.000 Jobless claims rise.

02:44:27.000 New weekly claims for unemployment come in unexpectedly higher than Wall Street forecast.

02:44:32.000 Now remember, two million people in the last three weeks have gone off their unemployment roll.

02:44:37.000 They're no longer counted as unemployed.

02:44:39.000 And then Bush says, oh, less unemployment.

02:44:42.000 New job claims rose in the United States last week.

02:44:46.000 The Labor Department said 363,000 people filed new claims for state unemployment benefits.

02:44:53.000 And the week that ends, February 7th, up from a reversed three revised, excuse me, 357,000, the prior week economists on average expected 345,000 new claims according to the briefing.

02:45:06.000 The four-week moving average of new claims, which irons out the volatility of the weekly data, rose to $350,500 from a revised $345,500 the prior week.

02:45:14.000 Continued claims, the number of people out of work for a week or more, fell to $3.08 million for the week ending January 31st.

02:45:19.000 the prior week continued claims the number of people

02:45:23.000 out of work for a week or more fell to three point zero eight million

02:45:28.000 or the week ending january thirty first uh... the latest data available from the revised three

02:45:34.000 point one million the prior week

02:45:38.000 so they're saying only a few hundred thousand people

02:45:43.000 Unemployment's gone down by a few hundred thousand, but then we've got millions going off the rolls as they cook the books.

02:45:51.000 This is out of the Herald Tribune, Associated Press, South Carolina, Columbia, South Carolina.

02:45:57.000 Panel approves plan to monitor all prescription drug sales.

02:46:04.000 Now again, all over the country, the Pharmacies are already doing this, but now they're codifying it state by state, but it's federally funded.

02:46:13.000 The state would maintain a database of prescription drugs sold in the state, and who bought them under a measure a House budget panel approved Wednesday?

02:46:21.000 House Majority Leader Rick Quinn, Republican Columbia, won approval for the database as a Way and Means Committee wrapped up a work on temporary law changes that will be put on the state budget.

02:46:33.000 Quinn told a panel that the database operated by the State Department of Health and Environmental Control would help cut down prescription drug abuses.

02:46:39.000 For instance, he said, police would be able to catch people who visit multiple doctors for treatment of the same malady and get prescription drugs and then resell them.

02:46:49.000 The legislation affects Schedule II through V-drugs, those are the harshest legal narcotics, such as morphine, down to cough syrups and codeine.

02:47:00.000 So there you go.

02:47:01.000 It seems very overreaching for the government to be tracking prescription drugs use of all health care recipients in our state, said Sue Berkowitz, Executive Director of the South Carolina Legal Justice Center.

02:47:13.000 The budget amendment says different groups could access the data.

02:47:18.000 Pharmacists for the prescriptions they issue, patients for the prescriptions they receive, state regulators investigating pharmacists, grand jury for the subpoena, law officers investigating abuse of illegal drugs.

02:47:29.000 Of legal drugs, excuse me.

02:47:30.000 So now police without a warrant, just a big database, that cop doesn't like you next door, wants to find out what's going on, just type it right into the database.

02:47:42.000 Oh, that's just what they're telling you about it.

02:47:44.000 Quinn's proposal requires no subpoena or warrant for law enforcement access for the information people who Uh, improperly disclosed data information face a fine of more than $5,000.

02:47:53.000 Law-abiding citizens should not have their records gone through just because law enforcement wants to check them, Berkowitz said.

02:47:59.000 Has nothing to do with terrorism, but it's all part of the terrorism of the globalists, centralizing control, part of the matrix system.

02:48:08.000 And that's not a movie, that's the system.

02:48:11.000 Uh, senators push two-year internet tax ban. 0.87

02:48:15.000 That's good news.

02:48:17.000 Now, U.S.

02:48:17.000 Senators opposed to a bill to permanently ban Internet access taxes.

02:48:24.000 See, it sounds good on the surface.

02:48:26.000 Unveiled rival legislation on Wednesday for a temporary tax moratorium that would not threaten state and local revenues.

02:48:34.000 Folks, there's not a tax on a Sears Roebuck catalog.

02:48:39.000 They say, oh, well, any other new catalog, anything out of state, you've got to pay taxes.

02:48:45.000 And a lot of companies are already doing it.

02:48:48.000 Very bad.

02:48:48.000 And can you imagine having to keep track of that?

02:48:55.000 Just amazing.

02:48:56.000 Feds back off case targeting anti-war activists.

02:49:00.000 Civil liberties groups Tuesday hailed the withdrawal of subpoenas issued last week before peace activists by federal prosecutors in Des Moines, Iowa as a significant victory, but instead the government must explain why they were issued in the first place.

02:49:13.000 That's what they're busy doing as Pakistan runs around arming everyone and Bush orders the FBI not to investigate. 1.00

02:49:20.000 And, uh, Ripken blames security services for his absence, Associated Press, the Russian presidential candidate Ivan Ripken, ...tried yesterday to end the discussion surrounding his five-day disappearance.

02:49:33.000 In an interview with the Echo of Moscow Radio, the Kremlin hinted that the blame lay on the security services for indirectly frightening him into hiding and for not telling the country where he was.

02:49:46.000 Rimkin announced that he was taking time out to decide whether to abandon his candidacy in the election of March 14th.

02:49:53.000 President Vladimir Putin is widely expected to win.

02:49:55.000 So it looks like a staged event.

02:49:58.000 Piglard to stop terror attacks.

02:50:00.000 This is out of the news of Australia.

02:50:03.000 And I'd heard the French did this when they had Muslims bombing them back in the 40s and 50s and 60s.

02:50:12.000 That they would ladle out Piglard up and down the rocks, the rock beds supporting the tracks.

02:50:19.000 Because if one of these Muslims thought that they bombed it, a rock hit them, they wouldn't get into heaven. 0.98

02:50:26.000 Israeli police have come up with plans to place bags of pig lard on buses in a bid to deter Palestinian militants from carrying out suicide attacks.

02:50:35.000 The Imarov Daily reported.

02:50:38.000 I'll tell you more about that and a bunch of other really serious news when we get back.

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02:55:41.000 Oh, this pig lard to stop terror attacks. 0.95

02:55:43.000 Rabbinical authorities have given the idea its approval on the grounds that it could be a life-saving measure, even though pigs are considered impure to Jews, as well as Muslims, and they're talking about putting pig lard in schools everywhere. 0.98

02:55:56.000 Bags of pig lard. 0.96

02:55:59.000 I've read the French did this. 0.97

02:56:00.000 I'd like to hear from some Muslims.

02:56:02.000 Maybe the Mara. 0.98

02:56:04.000 Is it true that you're so afraid of a pig that that's true?

02:56:13.000 Because I've read that and heard that. 0.75

02:56:15.000 I guess it is true.

02:56:16.000 That's amazing.

02:56:20.000 Rumsfeld draws back on Blair's 45-minute claim, ABC News.

02:56:27.000 He now says, I don't remember the statement being made, to be perfectly honest, where I'm still at the Pentagon News Conference.

02:56:32.000 So he's now basically saying he never said that.

02:56:34.000 I've got him on video.

02:56:35.000 I had VCRs running for weeks leading up to the Iraq War, during the Iraq War.

02:56:40.000 Just more, I don't remember saying that.

02:56:44.000 Never said that.

02:56:46.000 Pentagon cooking the casualty counts.

02:56:48.000 American Free Press, there's a lot of mainstream articles on this.

02:56:51.000 It's in the thousands.

02:56:53.000 It's in the thousands in Iraq, it's in the thousands in Afghanistan, and it's in the hundreds worldwide, in the hundreds in the Philippines.

02:57:01.000 It's just horrible.

02:57:07.000 French lawmakers strike over a criminal justice bill, and French lawyers went on strike Wednesday as a permanent Parliament prepared to enact a new criminal justice law that many fear would undermine civil liberties and strengthen police powers, lengthening detention periods and introducing plea bargaining.

02:57:25.000 And they're basically enacting the same police state measures that England and the US are.

02:57:30.000 It's the same thing worldwide.

02:57:32.000 The French aren't against the globalists.

02:57:33.000 They're all in it together.

02:57:35.000 So that's serious as well.

02:57:39.000 I'm out of time.

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02:58:21.000 I guess we do.

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