Alex Jones is back with another live edition of the Alex Jones Show, this time with special guest Hutton Gibson. In the third hour of the show, Jones is joined by Hutton to discuss the recent interview with Mel Gibson, and what he has to say about the state of affairs in the world.
00:01:03.000In the third hour of the show, I've got Hutton Gibson coming back on the broadcast.
00:01:07.000We had him on a few weeks ago, and an hour wasn't enough time to go over the state of affairs in the world.
00:01:15.000Hutton Gibson is an expert, he's been exposing it for decades, on the takeover of the Roman Catholic Church by the forces of the New World Order.
00:01:23.000We'll be talking about that and other issues in the third hour today.
00:01:29.000Coming up here in about ten minutes, Texas Church.
00:01:32.000Tries guns for roses on Valentine's from ABC News.
00:01:38.000They got people to turn their guns in with armed police standing around.
00:01:42.000They said it's the Christian thing to do, which is of course totally false.
00:01:47.000Not defending your family is one of the worst things you can do, and having an armed society keeps the criminals at bay.
00:01:54.000Having a disarmed society does the opposite, but that's coming up here in the next segment.
00:01:59.000You're not going to want to miss that.
00:02:02.000And of course we've got news from all over the world and what's happening with the police state here domestically as well.
00:02:10.000Now the websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and they've both been updated for you today.
00:02:21.000Hosted on Infowars.com, we have a banner that links to the Passion website, the Passion of Christ website, and that's coming out on the 25th.
00:02:34.000The 25th, here in just about, well, less than a week and a half, and I know I'm going to be there the first day it comes out, and we're going to go over some of the hit pieces that have been written against the film and how that's backfiring on those that don't want you to see this movie.
00:02:51.000But you can link through to the particular subsection on Mel Gibson's Icon Production website and get free movie posters and free handbills, flyers to promote the film.
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00:03:24.000That'll certainly infuriate the globalists as well, so go to InfoWars.com.
00:03:30.000I know it's being updated right now, and that banner will be up there for you.
00:03:35.000By the way, I talked to Hutton Gibson yesterday for about 30 minutes.
00:03:39.000And let's just say this, you're going to want to watch Mel Gibson on Diane Sawyer's primetime ABC tonight at 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central.
00:03:52.000We're not going to steal Mel Gibson's thunder.
00:03:54.000I mean, Hutton told me about what Mel said in the interview, but We're not going to steal his thunder here on the show and tell you what he said.
00:04:04.000In fact, they interviewed Mel for over three and a half hours, Hutton said, and it's only a 30-minute piece.
00:04:09.000And you take the ads out, it's probably even shorter than that.
00:04:12.000But if they don't include what Mel said, and I mean, this is bombshell stuff, in this Diane Sawyer CFR piece, believe me, you're going to hear about it on this show tomorrow.
00:04:25.000Because we're not going to let them get away with their normal activities.
00:04:29.000Diane Sawyer, of course, is pure New World Order.
00:04:32.000One of the biggest gun grabbers in Washington.
00:04:36.000And she's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, so there's no telling what they'll do with this piece tonight.
00:04:41.000But I'm going to be up late working on a new film, so I'm going to tape it and watch it when I get home after midnight tonight.
00:04:49.000So if they edit out the key stuff Mel was saying in this interview, we'll tell you about it tomorrow.
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00:09:43.000Texas Church tries guns for roses on Valentine's Day.
00:09:47.000I've seen articles where Catholic churches, Protestant churches, you name it, have these gun buyback or turn your gun in events they put on United Nations days.
00:09:57.000Here in Austin, local Baptist Church does and tells you to turn your guns in.
00:10:02.000A church in Dallas, Texas wants people to show their love by giving up their guns this Valentine's Day, which they did.
00:10:09.000The First Presbyterian Church in Dallas is sponsoring a program for people to turn in their guns to mark the celebration of love.
00:10:17.000The sponsors will be given $50 for each gun and would be glad if the cash was used to purchase candy or flowers for Valentine's Day.
00:10:26.000Quote, we're not trying to disarm Cupid of his bow and arrow, but provide another meaningful opportunity for individuals to show their affection for their families by making their homes safe this Valentine's Day, said church pastor Bruce Buchanan.
00:10:41.000The church has sponsored gun buybacks before, but pastor Buchanan said he has moved the program to Valentine's Day because most of the people who turned in guns had families and they did not want the guns in the homes.
00:10:55.000The church is aiming to buy back 150 guns, and to tell us how this went is Pastor Bruce Buchanan.
00:11:02.000Pastor, thanks for coming on the show.
00:11:51.000Well, in the Presbyterian Church USA there has been for about almost 20 years now a peacemaking program in the church that's observed on the first Sunday in October.
00:12:08.000And churches are encouraged to be involved in local peacemaking efforts, and for many churches that involves, say, supporting a domestic violence shelter, or some other initiative in the community that helps in that general area.
00:12:23.000Here at this church, about three years ago, one of our church members suggested that we use part of that offering to sponsor a buyback, and that's what started it.
00:12:32.000And ever since then, funds from people in the community have come in.
00:12:38.000It doesn't come from church funds to support the program and to keep it going.
00:12:57.000Okay, well let me just be... Pastor, I mean, we appreciate you coming on, but let me just be up front with you.
00:13:04.000Number one, when one of the disciples at the Garden of Gethsemane cut the ear off the Roman, Christ put it back on and said, next time sell your cloak and buy swords.
00:14:06.000Well, we did not force anyone to come and turn in their handgun or their rifle.
00:14:14.000And there are people who are involved in this program and have been involved in the program from the beginning who are strong supporters of the Second Amendment.
00:14:34.000Who disables the weapons when they're turned in is a gun enthusiast.
00:14:38.000And so by far, we have collected in all those seven events about 300 handguns and rifles.
00:14:48.000And my experience has been that many of them come from women, which is a surprise.
00:14:57.000uh... and uh... we've asked uh... you know just uh... curiosity darn people frequently just volunteer where they've got it and uh... uh... many of them at the big the guns were a gift from uh... apparent or a boyfriend concerned for their safety and you know that's understandable pastor uh... i read your quotes here from abc news And what I get from reading the article is, people turn their guns in because they've got families and they think they're dangerous in the house.
00:15:33.000And the last line here is, the Valentine's Day celebration will be overseen by armed police.
00:15:39.000And they use these images on the news, and I've got the gun control group's own documents on this, to acclimate us to the image of people lining up, turning their guns in, and everywhere where they've had gun registration and gun buybacks
00:16:49.000The first person to turn in a weapon was a grandmother.
00:16:53.000The very first one that we had was the day before Mother's Day.
00:16:56.000She came in, she had a rifle and a pistol, and she told us that the next day she knew her grandson was going to come and visit her for Mother's Day.
00:17:05.000And she was glad that she didn't have that for him to find.
00:17:08.000Well, Pastor, back on this, Pastor, Pastor, Pastor...
00:17:14.000Yes, most people don't know how to properly store a handgun or a rifle.
00:17:23.000People turn in weapons in cardboard boxes.
00:17:53.000And if you love your family, you learn how to use a gun, and you protect your family, this is all part of the big gun control agenda.
00:18:00.000And for you to say that Christ didn't say, uh, sell your cloak and buy a sword, you're telling me, pastor, as a pastor, you don't know that.
00:18:28.000You know, I've got my Bible here on the bookshelf next to me, and I've sat through a lot of Sunday School and enjoyed it, but I do not know the particular verse.
00:18:36.000I know 50 people can call in and give us the verse.
00:18:39.000In fact, will somebody please call in and give us the chapter and verse?
00:19:13.000I am angry because these gun buybacks are going on all over the country.
00:19:18.000I must have seen 50 different police department news articles about them where they have these gun buybacks and take the guns and melt them down and make an image of a gun tied in a knot with a barrel tied in a knot and put that out front the church or put it out front the police station.
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00:24:31.000What an incredible statement by that so-called Presbyterian pastor in Dallas who's had a whole bunch of, well, seven different gun buybacks.
00:24:39.000What does it mean that he didn't know the verse where Christ said, uh, sell your cloaks and buy swords?
00:25:24.000I'm sorry, Luke chapter 22 and verse 36.
00:25:27.000It says, uh, then said he unto them, but now he that hath a purse, now this is Jesus quoting, mind you, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his script.
00:25:37.000And he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
00:25:40.000Now there's a follow-up verse to, uh, verses later, but the thing that came to my mind fifteen years ago is, is why did Jesus tell his disciples to purchase a, a sword?
00:25:52.000And if they don't have the money to, to buy the script, uh, then to Sell their cloaks, sell their garments, something that was necessary, something that was certainly a necessity, for something that was more of a necessity.
00:26:08.000And the second verse after this, 37... Christ is saying, run around in a loincloth if you have to, because you're going to need weapons in the future.
00:26:18.000And exactly, right here in verse 37, next verse, for I say unto you, "...that this that is written must be accomplished in me.
00:26:26.000And he was reckoned among the transgressors, for the things concerning me have an end."
00:27:37.000You think he was a liar or do you think he's a complete idiot?
00:27:41.000You know, I've talked to a lot of pastors.
00:27:43.000I'm a preacher myself and one thing that I've found is that people People will not see what they don't want to see.
00:27:50.000If they're not open to the truth, they can read that passage a hundred times over, and it just doesn't seem to stand out to them because they don't have the Holy Spirit teaching them.
00:27:59.000If he isn't saved to start with, that's one problem.
00:28:02.000I can say something that's as clear as anything, and if people don't want to believe it, they'll just twist it around before they don't understand it.
00:28:19.000I remember one guy sat down with God to the part in 9-11 Road to Tyranny, and this guy was, uh, the, uh, FEMA, I believe, the FEMA, uh, commander, who was talking about, uh, uh, Christians and, uh, Founding Fathers being terrorists.
00:28:35.000This guy actually told me, he said, yeah, I can understand that, you know, but I guess they would be back then, they'd be considered terrorists.
00:28:42.000This guy's identifying with the FEMA, Commander that was demonizing Christians and Patriots.
00:28:49.000And then we have the training manual that says gun owners, defenders of the U.S.
00:28:54.000Constitution, we're all terrorists, homeschoolers.
00:28:58.000He even watched the homeschooler part and said, oh yeah, we're terrorists.
00:29:01.000Yeah, he could not, although he was a neocon, I have to say, and had been around conservatives all his life, he just didn't want to see it.
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00:33:40.000And they've had seven gun buybacks, and had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of guns turned in.
00:33:44.000They just had another one on Valentine's Day.
00:33:46.000And I mentioned Luke 22, 36, where Christ said, you know, if you don't have money, sell your cloak and buy a sword.
00:33:57.000And he said, no, that doesn't exist, I don't know about that.
00:34:01.000When that's one of the most famous, well-known verses out of the New Testament.
00:34:08.000But the point here is, is I have had listeners email me and send me news clippings and I have seen Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of news articles of churches, Baptist, Catholic, you name it, having gun buybacks.
00:34:26.000Alyssa sent me a news article a few years ago out of the Chicago Tribune where one of the big Catholic churches up in Chicago said you shouldn't own guns, turn all your guns in, guns should be banned.
00:34:38.000One of the big Baptist churches here in Austin, every October 24th on UN Day, Has a gun buyback and has a big U.N.
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00:42:53.000I don't know if I'd be telling people to pass out these tapes.
00:42:59.000Police officers... Actually, I made a mistake and put it in his mailbox, and now they're trying to Prosecute me over it.
00:43:08.000Well, you know, we've had thousands of listeners make thousands of copies of the videos and give them to police and deliver them to firefighters and usually they get a positive response.
00:43:17.000But you're telling me that you stuck it in the mailbox and now they're trying to claim what?
00:43:22.000That it's a federal offense to stick something in a mailbox?
00:43:25.000Well, no, they didn't even charge me with that.
00:43:31.000First, I had been going by this, he was a state trooper.
00:43:35.000I went by his house for probably about a month before I did this.
00:43:40.000And on my way to work every morning, I thought, well, it'd be easy to try to inform him because I didn't think there was anything wrong with trying to inform people of authority in your area.
00:43:51.000So I put the tape in his mailbox, the first one.
00:43:54.000Well, evidently he didn't know where it'd come from or he didn't see me, right?
00:44:01.000And then about two weeks later, I decided that I would put another one in his mailbox with another tape which confirmed your tape from other sources.
00:44:12.000Actually, it came off the History Channel and C-SPAN and stuff like that.
00:44:21.000But anyway, I put that one in his mailbox about two or three weeks later, and he saw me put it in there.
00:44:31.000He evidently waited on the highway where he knew I would probably come back down and he waited for me that evening after work and when I came by he pulled me over and basically he acted out just like the tape said he would.
00:44:48.000I think it kind of hurt his pride or something.
00:45:48.000I know they've charged people that, you know, put the coupons in mailboxes, because you're not supposed to put it in the mailbox, but that's not really enforced.
00:45:54.000They're so stupid they didn't charge you with that.
00:46:18.000There's one other case I know of this happening.
00:46:21.000A listener, and I actually got the news article on this, a listener in Florida, every day was putting multiple copies on the windshields, like people put flyers on my car every week, usually a restaurant or a quick lube, you know, for one of those gas station ads.
00:46:42.000And they called the bomb squad out because it was a video.
00:47:20.000And that's where they locked me up there.
00:47:21.000And what are they saying the threats are?
00:47:24.000Uh, well, I told him that, um, after he had already told me that I was being locked up for terroristic threatening, um, he, I was in the car and I told him, I said, well, you know, when a father sees something in the future that may be a threat to his children, Then he should take a course to try to protect them.
00:47:44.000Well, this jerk turned around and said that I had threatened his family and children.
00:47:53.000No, no, he said because he's trying to twist this around and say that I He said that I had threatened his children over that.
00:48:03.000Because I said, well, when a father sees something in the future that might be, you know, detrimental to their children, he has to take a course to try to protect them.
00:48:09.000Well, there's no way they can twist that.
00:49:44.000Well, he, uh, seems to think that there's some constitutional issue here that, you know, the First Amendment... Well, but, I mean, you never... Okay, where are you?
00:54:21.000Then he went before the judge for pretrial, and the judge said, you're guilty of handing a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.
00:54:29.000And so, that is so important that he has witnesses to that.
00:54:33.000If his lawyer doesn't know that that is totally insane, and has prejudiced the judge, then I don't know what does.
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01:00:15.000Alright, my friends, we've got Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order, to talk about how they've taken over the churches in America and worldwide in this next hour.
01:00:28.000Got a bunch of news we're going to get to in loaded phones.
01:00:30.000Davey and Paul and many others that are holding.
01:00:37.000This is the first case of this I've heard of.
01:00:39.000A listener in Kentucky, Kelly Rushing, who I believe, but I have to get all the documents on this, put in a police officer's mailbox one of my videos, a C-SPAN video, Exposing the New World Order.
01:00:54.000And so the cop waited for him, pulled him over, said, you threatened my family.
01:01:00.000Kelly couldn't imagine he'd done something wrong until the judge said, you're guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.
01:01:12.000You've got to get the court record of that.
01:01:13.000You've got to get the squad car audio, which will probably claim I disappeared.
01:01:18.000But then if a jury hears all that, This is the new America.
01:01:22.000These people will sleep just fine seeing you go to jail.
01:01:26.000You said the judge said one year in jail for threatening a police officer, and of course after they get you in the car, then he claims that you threatened his family, which you say you didn't do.
01:01:35.000You said, well I think somebody would want to know about what's happening in this country, you know, to protect their children.
01:01:40.000That's what we all say for your children's future.
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01:08:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:08:17.000If you go into the Travis County SWAT team office on the top floor of the Sheriff's Department off 11th Street in downtown Austin.
01:08:29.000As I have done when Delta Force was in Austin a few years ago, I was down there.
01:08:34.000You will see, at the time, four or five of my videos on the shelf.
01:08:40.000And they know about the New World Order.
01:08:44.000You also saw the Oklahoma City bombing video there, so they obviously have watched that and know who really carried that out.
01:08:52.000And all over the country, thousands and thousands of listeners have gotten the videos and made thousands of copies, in many cases, dozens in other cases, and gotten them out to people.
01:09:02.000They've been put on access TV stations around the country.
01:09:08.000And a listener gives a cop, a state police officer in Kentucky, some of my videos, including a video of some C-SPAN and History Channel stuff, and he's arrested, and they say it's a threat.
01:09:19.000He pulls him out of the car, says, you threatened my family.
01:10:19.000She thought I was still having you on the show.
01:10:24.000That kind of broke my train of thought, but let me go back to what I was saying.
01:10:28.000In my film, Road to Tyranny, we have FEMA, we have police, we have them being taught that all Christians are terrorists, the Founding Fathers are bad, anybody that talks about them is bad, that homeschoolers are terrorists.
01:10:40.000We have their own documents, their own video, their own training flyers, we have it all.
01:10:46.000And then you go out on the road, well it's like Abby Newman.
01:10:50.000She's at a checkpoint, pulls up, Behind the other cars, they're in front of her.
01:11:03.000And then on their own audio, because they have microphones on their uniform, on their ties, they go, my goodness, you know, she's got a pocket constitution.
01:11:12.000She's got information about Social Security.
01:11:15.000She's got a, well, she even had a video she hadn't taken back to the store.
01:11:21.000With that really evil right-winger, Harrison Ford, Patriot Games.
01:11:25.000And in there was also my video, Police State 2000.
01:12:51.000I've got a couple of verses here from Isaiah chapter 59, verse 14 and 15.
01:12:56.000Okay, for those that just joined us and missed the preacher in the last hour who had a gun buyback at the First Presbyterian Church, according to ABC News, when I read the verse on air, or had a listener do it, Luke 22, 36, where Christ said, sell your cloaks and buy swords, he said that didn't exist.
01:13:13.000And, uh, so now you're obviously calling it about that.
01:13:16.000Well, that and the, uh, issue in Kentucky there, and it's fundamentally an issue of good faith.
01:13:22.000As you pointed out in your videos, these, uh, mind control robots, they call themselves the police, which are policy enforcers.
01:14:11.000Oh yeah, they brought in police chiefs from all over the country, the 50 largest cities in America, to program them.
01:14:19.000And we found out that, of course, they just returned from an ADL sponsored trip to Israel.
01:14:24.000By the way, I was sent a big law enforcement magazine last year where it said, and I ought to dig that out, Where it's said, where it's said, if somebody's got to get us out of the UN sticker, they're probably a criminal, go ahead and arrest them.
01:14:41.000Now that is in a major, it was law enforcement technology.
01:14:45.000Right, and the issue is one of good faith.
01:14:56.000We're already living in the Soviet Union, and if they could move against us en masse, they would have already done it, but some of their cops aren't programmed.
01:16:05.000And the issue is, again, one of good faith.
01:16:07.000This is all coming out of the ATF Department of Justice Project Safe Neighborhood.
01:16:13.000You can do a Google search, Project Safe Neighborhood, Police Chief, ADL, and find out about that.
01:16:19.000But I would like to quote this, Isaiah 59, 14, and 15, and it says, And judgment is turned away backward, and justice Keep up the good work, man.
01:16:30.000truth is falling in the street and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth, and he that departeth
01:16:36.000from evil maketh himself a prey." That's Mr. Rushing in Kentucky. And the Almighty saw it,
01:16:42.000and it displeased him that there was no judgment. Incidentally, Alex, the media bypass is not
01:16:47.000far away from where he's located there. And keep up the good work, man. You're doing a great job.
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01:24:14.000I need to take all the news articles about the FBI training manuals, Project Megiddo, the video clip of FEMA saying all the Christians are terrorists, all of this.
01:24:25.000The law enforcement technology magazine that said if somebody's got an anti-UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them, go ahead and take them on downtown.
01:24:36.000And take all these stories and put it together in one big article with hyperlinks and video clips and documents.
01:24:42.000And then, you know, have everybody email that around so millions of people can see it.
01:24:48.000Because what they've done to police is, over the last 50 years, is they say, okay, we're going to frame criminals.
01:24:53.000But, you know, we know somebody's guilty, we'll go ahead and frame them.
01:24:55.000So they get cops to kind of, you know, get into that evil and start it.
01:24:59.000Then, it just becomes institutionalized where if you don't like somebody, just charge them with something.
01:25:05.000And then the ADL, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and the Southern Poverty Law Center in their own manuals, which are written for the police, explain to them how they can get this done.
01:25:16.000And then they go out and carry it out against the general public.
01:25:19.000I mean, they come after you if you're a Christian, if you're a homeschooler, if you're into anything decent.
01:25:26.000You're under attack because you threatened the New World Order.
01:25:29.000Diana in Colorado, then John, James, Tracy, Betty, and others.
01:26:01.000Okay, well, the preacher, for those who don't know, just joined us in the last hour, who had a gun buy-back in Dallas that ABC News reported on.
01:26:10.000He was saying that he didn't know that in the Gospel of Luke, that Christ said, sell your clothes and buy a sword.
01:26:21.000I would like to say, though, that the many times that I've read the Gospels, that verse has never jumped out at me, and it makes sense to me that people who are Who are pro-gun would know verses like that and be able to use them to support their cause.
01:26:34.000And then be able to say, well, those of you who don't know, well, then you must just be stupid because you've never... whatever.
01:26:40.000Who hasn't read the part at the Garden of Gethsemane?
01:26:46.000I mean, that's the most read part of the Bible is the last 12 hours of Christ's life.
01:26:53.000The real point that I wanted to make was that I I sort of feel bad for your unsuspecting interviewees sometimes because I don't think that they know what they're getting into.
01:27:04.000And I felt a little bit bad for him because it seemed to me like he really has no bad intentions for what he's doing.
01:27:10.000It seems to me his His point that, you know, the first woman who gave up her gun was a grandmother who didn't... Do you realize how dangerous these useful idiots are?
01:27:19.000I do, and I... Do you realize that they're preparing to put us all in concentration camps?
01:27:23.000That's the head of NORTHCOM right there in Colorado Springs.
01:27:27.000Yes, I listen to your show all the time, Alex, and I, you know, I'm on your side all the time.
01:27:35.000This country is bleeding to death right in front of me, and I'm a little freaked out right now.
01:27:41.000The only thing, the one thing I want to say is that I just think he's a little bit misinformed, you know, and I think for him, the way he's going to get the message is if If we gently inform him, I think probably him feeling attacked isn't going to change his mind.
01:28:09.000I called up and was going to talk about one thing, and after your caller in Kentucky, by golly, that got a whole other trade of thought going.
01:28:16.000Listen, I just wanted to get my heads up this.
01:28:19.000I know in different parts of the state, Our country, I should say, that once a restraining order is put out against you, and that sounds like what was put out against him, it becomes a felony for you to have access to a firearm.
01:28:32.000I have a friend of mine that's in Georgia that's going through that right now.
01:28:35.000It seems as a course of Just what happens when... And they told him, they told him, you can leave the jail when you sign this, and he fell for it.
01:28:51.000A friend of mine is going through a divorce in Georgia, and just as a routine matter of occurrence, judges down there issue restraining orders against the husbands, which means if the husbands have a gun in the house, They all of a sudden are a felon.
01:29:08.000Same thing in Texas and all over the country.
01:29:11.000You're automatically convicted even if it's a no fault divorce.
01:29:15.000Well he may want to talk with an attorney down there and really find out because he may get a knock at the door at about 3 o'clock and somebody do a random search in his house because really it could go from real bad to real worse real quick.
01:29:29.000Yeah, that's our free country, our wondrous free country, where the police manuals and magazines say, if they got an anti-UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them.
01:29:39.000Yeah, that's what America's all about.
01:29:43.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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01:34:55.000Just in my life, I've done 1,400 radio interviews.
01:34:59.000I haven't counted them up since 1,300, but I've done well over 100 the last few months, so it's upwards of 1,400.
01:35:04.000And everywhere I go, people are waking up.
01:35:09.000I'll do Again, two, three, four radio interviews a day, and no one calls in the disagrees.
01:35:16.000Five years ago, the complete opposite.
01:35:20.000So we're winning the fight, and so the criminals out there that engage in this globalist activity, you need to know that we're on to you, we're on to your corruption, we know what you're doing, people are waking up to history, you're in a lot of trouble.
01:35:35.0001-888-253-3139 is the toll-free number, or just write to me, Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78704.
01:35:41.000like to me Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar Suite 100 Austin, Texas 78704.
01:35:48.000Now I'm going to go to these calls really fast.
01:36:09.000Now, as far as your pastor goes, our problem is we have a bunch of 501c3 corporations that call themselves churches.
01:36:17.000And you should have asked the pastor this, and you can't think everything, but you know the Presbyterian Church, from the hierarchy down, has said that gay marriages now are acceptable.
01:36:27.000I mean, you do know that's the Presbyterian stand on gay marriages, right?
01:36:32.000That would have been an interesting question for that fellow.
01:36:34.000Also, and it's destroying their church all over the world.
01:36:36.000People are leaving, and on top of it, I know the Presbyterians are getting some of the faith-based initiative funds that, by the way, did go through.
01:36:45.000It just hasn't been totally legalized, they're just doing it anyways.
01:36:48.000So this is part of the federal funding of the churches.
01:36:51.000Absolutely, and if they come out and they talk about...
01:36:55.000If they come out against government policy, the IRS has come in and they've already said they would yank their 501c3 status and pull the church away from them.
01:37:04.000And the answer, but if they grovel, they'll get federal money.
01:37:08.000The answer is having all our churches say no, we'll talk about whatever we want.
01:37:24.000Most of the people, I'm not trying to accuse them, but they know not what they do.
01:37:29.000They've made this social structure and traditions of a man God.
01:37:33.000They use Colossians 2.16 to defend pagan traditions.
01:37:37.000If it doesn't say to do it in the Bible, why add the tradition?
01:37:40.000And I'm trying to make the link between why my gun is missing, it's been repossessed, and why people are walking around in a trance saying, there's nothing wrong, we're still free.
01:38:50.000We have to look at the bigger picture as far as the sword situation and there's the scripture in Isaiah 2.4.
01:38:58.000If anybody's ever been in the UN building when you first walk in, in the lobby or whatever they call it, it's the scripture Isaiah 2.4, He shall judge among the nations and shall rebuke many people and they shall beat their swords in the plowshares.
01:39:15.000and their spears and the pruning hook.
01:39:18.000Nations shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war
01:40:05.000is not a Christian organization and when we see that scripture in the U.N.
01:40:11.000lobby They're planting their heaven on earth, and this is a way of conditioning the people to give up their guns, to give up their weapons.
01:40:19.000We're so brainwashed and so conditioned in this world, and especially in this country.
01:41:26.000What she's referring to on the UN happens to be the scripture that's going to be used to form the One World Church, the ecumenical movement.
01:41:33.000It's not about peace as it should be defined, but peace as a New World Order religion.
01:41:41.000The other thing about that First, is being taken out of context in Luke 22, 36.
01:41:47.000Nowhere in the Pauline Epistles or anywhere in the Gospels are there any examples that were to live by the sword.
01:42:04.000I've read the Bible more than... So it was wrong that the Founding Fathers stood up to England.
01:42:09.000No, the truth of the scriptures are this, and that we... Well, let me just tell you something.
01:42:13.000I'm going to defend my family, and I could have a hundred pastors on here to repeat what you're saying.
01:42:19.000Well, I'm not... Look, you know, there's plenty of scriptures to refute it, to refute the fact that we are to not live like that.
01:42:27.000It says, blessed are the peacemakers, and I don't mean... Yeah, and you make peace by defending and by going after the enemies that are attacking you.
01:42:35.000Well, if you'll let me explain, that verse in 2236 of Luke, That's not what it means.
01:43:10.000I think it's time for your listeners around the United States and around the world to contact their friends and relatives in the state of Kentucky and enlighten them as to what's really going on.
01:43:22.000And for those that just joined us, recap what has happened to Kelly Rushing.
01:43:28.000Well, apparently Mr. Rushing left some videotapes in the mailbox of a Kentucky State Trooper, and this State Trooper arrested him and charged him with terrorism.
01:43:39.000So the people of Kentucky need to be enlightened the best way I can think of would be for your listeners to contact their friends and relatives in the state of Kentucky and enlighten these people.
01:43:53.000Tell them about Alex Jones, Dan Stapp, John Stapp Miller.
01:44:03.000We need to flood that county with these videos, which the police seem to think are illegal.
01:44:09.000The judge told him, according to Kelly Rushing, he said, look, you are guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.
01:44:20.000I mean, folks, one of my videos is aired on national television.
01:44:26.00020-20, Good Morning America, hard copy, extra, C-SPAN.
01:44:32.000The point here is that it's not illegal to make films and to write books, but these people think it is!
01:44:38.000I have major law enforcement publications, magazines, documents, where they say if you've got an anti-UN bumper sticker on your car, go ahead and arrest them.
01:44:52.000Also, Alex, uh, Campus Censorship Lifting is the title of a short John Leo syndicated column from Today's Oklahoma that I'd like to read to you real quickly, if I can.
01:45:16.000Astonishingly, the university administration did not step in to halt proceedings on the grounds that feelings might be hurt.
01:45:22.000The debate was civil, with some booing and cheering on both sides.
01:45:25.000Some students seemed a bit testy or angry, but as one student sponsor of the debate said, that's part of politics and discussing diversity of issues.
01:45:34.000This breakthrough raises a startling question.
01:45:36.000Is it possible that other universities will begin experimenting with free speech?
01:45:45.000There's a big professor out in California who simply said that Palestinians are kept in the equivalent of concentration camps, and that it's wrong, and the ADL is trying to get him fired now just for criticizing Israel, now criticizing Israel's anti-Semitic!
01:46:03.000See, I mean, this isn't America anymore if we put up with this, people!
01:46:09.000Could it be, Alex, the fog of censorship on campuses is beginning to lift thanks to the pressure of litigation, bad publicity, and ridicule from a new and more pugnacious generation of collegians?
01:46:22.000The litigation is being handled by groups such as the Center for Individual Rights, the Alliance Defense Fund, and most spectacularly, by the Philadelphia-based Foundation for Individual Rights and Education, which is now a major player in the campus war.
01:46:37.000These groups have been winning free speech cases one after another, creating momentum that is forcing many censorship-minded administrators into a defensive crouch.
01:46:46.000By the way, Ron, I have had some of those groups on.
01:46:58.000This is one reason I brought it up, Alex.
01:47:00.000The litigation is being handled by groups such as the Center for Individual Rights, Alliant, Defense Fund, and most spectacularly by the Philadelphia State Foundation for Individual Rights and Education.
01:47:18.000Those groups, and this was a syndicated column by... I hear you Ron, I gotta let you go.
01:48:03.000I'm going to have to get with Kelly Rushing, do research, get the documents, confirm his case, and then I'm going to have to write an article about it and try to get him some help.
01:48:14.000My phone's ringing off the hook with stuff like this.
01:48:16.000I'm very frustrated that there's no way to cover it all.
01:48:21.000Let me just shotgun out some of the news here.
01:49:03.000But you watch the neocons up at the Supreme Court re-rule on Roe v. Wade in a pro-death fashion.
01:49:15.000Really scary article out of the New York Times today.
01:49:20.000New York police take broad steps in facing terror, meeting in secret and coordinating complex drills.
01:49:27.000The department has brought together government agencies in a broad effort for much of last year.
01:49:31.000In doing so, it has put together a program that some national security and law enforcement officials describe as unrivaled among American cities.
01:49:39.000Now, in this lengthy article, they get into the forced roundups, the forced inoculations, the quarantines, the sports stadiums, This is the government's smoke screen for a total lockdown.
01:49:49.000And we have the head of NORTHCOM, General Eberhardt, in the LA Times, saying martial law is a good thing.
01:49:55.000The outgoing head of CENTCOM, Tommy Franks, has said it.
01:50:01.000Again, I cannot stress how serious things are right now.
01:50:06.000And it's a chilling article, you need to read it.
01:50:09.000Catastrophic attack possible, Bush says.
01:50:12.000Associated Press, the United States still faces the threat of catastrophic attack by nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, President George Bush said.
01:50:19.000The possibility of secret and sudden attack with weapons of mass destruction is the greatest threat before humanity today, he said, as he highlighted his security credentials in a weekly radio address gearing to his campaign for this year's election.
01:50:33.000And see, they can blow something up and say, see, we told you so.
01:54:50.000He said, quote, America faces the possibility of catastrophic attack from ballistic missiles armed with weapons of mass destruction.
01:54:57.000So we are developing and deploying missile defenses to guard our people.
01:55:02.000Well, it's come out that our government's helped arm China, North Korea, Pakistan, allowed Pakistan to transfer these weapons.
01:55:08.000So while the government's arming all our enemies, they're telling us, race for all these attacks, and the terrorists are about to strike us, and Al-Qaeda's got suitcase nukes.
01:55:39.000China transferred nuclear weapons designs to Pakistan, our ally, so has Israel and others.
01:55:45.000China has been identified as the original source of nuclear weapons designs found in Libya and the latest disclosure about the global spread of nuclear technology, including to Pakistan.
01:55:59.000Meanwhile, the military and the police are trying to round you up and forcibly inoculate you and put you in camps for your safety, of course.
01:56:08.000This is out of RFID Journal, the official industry publication paid for by the industry, promoting biometrics and other such technologies.
01:56:20.000And it says, Oracle speaks of RFID plans.
01:56:24.000And I saw the CEO back in On January 31st, 1999, I saw Scott McKelvey on Lewis Rukeyser's Wall Street Recon Review, and Rukeyser said, what do you look forward to most in the new century?
01:56:44.000He said, I look forward to putting a microchip in my son Maverick's neck and tracking everything he does.
01:57:41.000While some Oracle customers may see the announcement as long overdue, the company maintains it has been developing support for RFID and electronic product code deployments in its products for some time.
01:57:53.000We have been working on prototyping support for RFID for three years now, but we like to do the work first before we make announcements, says John Crowley, Senior Director of Development for Oracle Inventory and Warehouse Management Systems.
01:58:10.000At its annual Apps World Conference in January, the company had announced the next release of its Oracle Warehouse Management application, which supports RFID, and then it goes on to say that It is there to support under Department of Defense and Walmart mandates.
01:58:29.000So again, the Department of Defense and Walmart a year ago met with Governor Ridge and they're going to force everyone to accept the RFID at the store level.
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02:00:11.000We're already into the third and final hour of this 16th of February, 2004 Monday edition.
02:00:21.000We have Hutton Gibson on the line with us.
02:00:23.000We've had him on the show, I don't know, four or five times over the last year or so.
02:00:26.000Hutton Gibson's a very interesting fella.
02:00:29.000He was the national champion of Jeopardy back in the 60s.
02:00:33.000Moved his family to Australia and moved back a few years ago to the United States and he's been fighting the New World Order Speaking and writing a newsletter, and he even made a little TV show that I aired here locally a few years ago, exposing the corruption in the Catholic Church and how the takeover took place.
02:00:56.000And yes, obviously he's the father of Mel Gibson, and so you know where Mel Gibson got a lot of his insight into the New World Order, which he speaks about many times when he's in the national news, or when they don't edit that out.
02:01:37.000Hutton, I don't want to digress, but I know you talk a lot about this.
02:01:41.000I mean, to have a preacher in Dallas, a Presbyterian, saying that he didn't know that Jesus said, sell your cloak and buy a sword, it's hard to believe that a preacher wouldn't know that, but that cuts right to the heart of the matter of what we're facing.
02:01:57.000You know, I've always heard these preachers that will say, I know every word that Christ said.
02:02:02.000Of course, I say, you only know the words that are recorded in the gospel.
02:02:28.000so that's a threat I would suggest that everybody in the neighborhood put a real threat in this policeman's box, so he knows the difference.
02:03:04.000We got into the New World Order and the draft and all of this, but I mean, I was captivated talking to you yesterday for 30 minutes about how the Catholic Church was taken over in 1958, or that's when one of the big takeovers took place, and I want to talk about that.
02:04:30.000Well, I'll tell you what, we're going to go to break.
02:04:32.000I want to go back and recap this and go over the evidence and then talk about what's happened since then and how this has affected the world and the change in the Catholic Church since 1958.
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02:08:06.000Who really is an expert when it comes to tracking the decline of the Catholic Church, and he's also involved in a movement that has set up, you would say, I guess, Orthodox Catholic churches around the country.
02:08:23.000And of course his son, Mel Gibson, has built one.
02:08:26.000I guess it's in Malibu, where they still perform the same rites that have been changed over the last 40, 50 years.
02:08:38.000Huntton, I was talking to you yesterday and you had that Latin saying about not letting the bastards grind us down.
02:09:23.000I've kind of modified that when I speak of the people in Rome.
02:09:26.000I call them the fatherless lions in Rome.
02:09:32.000Now, before the break, you were getting into 1958, Pope Pius dies, they have the wet straw, they have the dry straw, and for thousands of years before, they put the straw in, and whatever color comes out, then that tells them.
02:09:50.000Go over that for people that don't understand it, and then let's get into the takeover of the Catholic Church.
02:09:55.000Well, they burn the ballots each time, so nobody knows who voted for whom after they're counted.
02:10:01.000And then they put them in the fire there, inside the Sistine Chapel, and the smoke comes out the chimney.
02:10:09.000You see, they're white or black, depending on whether the straw is wet or dry.
02:10:16.000So, when it comes out white, that means we have a pope elected.
02:10:22.000And this 58 there on the 26th of October, it came out white.
02:10:27.000And went that way for five minutes, then suddenly it started getting gray, and then it turned black.
02:10:32.000And then they recalled the cards and said, hey, there's been a mistake.
02:11:18.000So he came out and started making changes.
02:11:23.000Now the Pope's oath of office is to the effect that He will take exactly what was handed him from his predecessor and hand it on absolutely without change.
02:11:34.000No additions, no subtractions, not even divisions to his successor.
02:11:40.000And these last four have done everything but.
02:11:43.000Of course, I don't believe they take an oath anymore.
02:11:46.000That's beside the point, because they are now superior beings.
02:11:56.000They can correct anything that was done for 1900 years, and because they have been elected there, most people look at them and say, well, yeah, well, he can do this.
02:12:15.000You get all the... the sheep on the bottom will just go along because this guy says he's Pope, and they don't look at the fact that he can't be Pope because he's not doing what a Pope should.
02:12:26.000And then now, suddenly we see the results, all the scandals in the church, people not attending, can't get priests, we have at the same time All over the world, more and more corruption coming out, and Catholic churches have these anti-gun doctrines, some of the other churches too.
02:14:55.000The Cardinal of Vienna, for instance, was a Freemason, which means king.
02:15:05.000So, they had their men all through the church, in the upper story, which they had told us they were going to do.
02:15:15.000About 1850 or 1860, there was a gentleman named, I use the word loosely, Mussini, who was the head of the The United Italy thing, which stole the Papal States and put all the other little kingdoms out of business, Dutchies, whatever they were, and molded them all into one country, which had not been one country since the Roman Empire.
02:15:45.000Different peoples, they had Greeks down in the south, Sicily, and they had the Germans up in the northwest, and on the northeast, And in between they had all varieties.
02:15:58.000They didn't even speak the same language.
02:16:02.000But they were nationalized, all put together in this great craze for nationhood by a bunch of Freemasons, who told us at the time they were going to lead us, following their flag, thinking it was our own.
02:16:18.000And they threatened to do it, and you see the result?
02:16:24.000Now, Hutton, I've talked to some of your associates and I've read some books on this subject, specifically going back to 1958.
02:16:32.000Do you have any information on what happened behind the scenes or how they made them change the voting or go back and then announce a new pope?
02:17:10.000And instead of standing up to him and going over to the radio and broadcasting that, they folded up And elected somebody else without getting rid of the one they had already elected.
02:17:22.000Now, do we know who they had really elected?
02:17:25.000Well, I have a couple of pretty good guesses.
02:17:30.000I think it was probably Cardinal Siri from Genoa.
02:17:47.000But they were, you might call, they would nowadays be called the right wing.
02:17:55.000You know, I get a lot of this nonsense that I am a member of the Catholic Church, which has left the Catholic Church and won't recognize the Pope.
02:18:07.000I'm just exactly what I started out like.
02:18:10.000So how would you describe that as an Orthodox, I mean, a Catholic, how would you describe it?
02:18:14.000Well, I wouldn't call it a movement for one thing, but it is You'd have to say traditional.
02:18:21.000Okay, that's the word I should use, then, not, uh... well, then, orthodox does mean traditional, then.
02:19:22.000When we get back, we'll get more into this, and who knows, maybe talk a little bit, but not give any secrets out about this Diane Sawyer interview coming up tonight on Primetime.
02:19:33.000She's a CFR member, so I don't trust her very much.
02:19:37.000It's all coming up, folks, with Hutton Gibson.
02:19:38.000We're going to talk more about the transformation of the Catholic Church.
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02:24:10.000How sick our country's gotten, how sick the world's gotten that Mel Gibson makes a film about Jesus Christ, and it's attacked, it's demonized, but it has blown up in their face.
02:24:22.000But I do want to bring up one issue, and I'm not going to talk about it on air because I don't want to steal Mel Gibson's thunder.
02:24:30.000You know, he told Hutton this with no intention of it going on the air.
02:24:33.000But tomorrow we will talk about it, if it's not in the primetime live this evening, 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central.
02:26:21.000You know, things became, uh, moot questions, and, as I say, the man was going to open the windows for the council.
02:26:30.000What he was doing was getting all the bishops into Rome at one time so he could share the responsibility for the changes he was going to bring in.
02:26:42.000He did let, got one thing through, which, he let the council revolt on him in the first place, which he should have packed it up, if he were straight, he would have packed it up and sent it home.
02:26:57.000They refused to take the documents which were all prepared for their consideration.
02:27:07.000Now, to get through it should have gone 67 to 33.
02:27:14.000Two-thirds was required, but he went along with it.
02:27:17.000You know, rather than pack it up and send it home because he would So basically they drove a wedge in, started balkanizing automatically, in the name of quote, power sharing to get others involved in the breakup.
02:28:24.000But, uh, the changes in the Council, uh, there were twelve specific heresies.
02:28:30.000Outside of that first document, which I say was solid heresy, but from there on, there was at least twelve specific heresies which I've insulated, isolated, and treated in one of my books.
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02:33:40.000And this is what the elite is good at, is going in and taking over organizations, institutions, and clearly that's what happened with the Catholic Church after 1958.
02:33:51.000And, uh, Hutton, you're telling me they went in and changed the basic doctrine down to saying that Christ hadn't done his work?
02:34:04.000In one document there, the Church in the Modern World, Gaudium et Spes, they call it, from its first three words, that we are joined with the rest of men in the search for truth.
02:34:17.000When we are supposedly The vehicle for proclaiming the truth.
02:34:25.000Why would we be searching for it when it was given to us?
02:34:28.000It's revealed truth that we're talking about.
02:34:31.000Now, at the same time you're in the United States, you start seeing the change in the Catholic Church.
02:34:38.000What were those changes that you saw on the ground?
02:34:41.000Well, they started off with vernacularizing.
02:34:49.000Everything has to be put in the local language.
02:34:53.000And then they put in a table there instead of an altar and have the priest face the congregation.
02:35:00.000And then you have people saying, oh, I like this better because now I can understand what he's saying.
02:35:05.000I couldn't understand what he was saying when he was talking Latin.
02:35:09.000The obvious answer is, well, he wasn't talking to you.
02:35:12.000And then they couldn't Translations themselves, there were plenty available, but they put out new ones, and they were wretched!
02:35:25.000And everybody could look at him and say, my kid could do better, because he could.
02:35:29.000So basically, we've seen the same thing with the Protestant churches, all these hundreds and hundreds of new Bibles that come out, where suddenly Jesus supports homosexuality, suddenly Jesus loves abortion, suddenly Jesus loves gun control.
02:35:45.000I mean, I don't know, Hutton, if you've seen some of these new Bibles that are out there, but it's like Anton LaVey wrote them or something.
02:35:54.000I kind of gave up on him after that good news for modern man came out.
02:35:57.000I got that and the Jerusalem Bible and about five or six other Bibles.
02:37:15.000And it was by order of the various bishops who were in on this.
02:37:20.000Well, the Bishops' Conferences, they decided a date on which this new right would be mandatory.
02:37:25.000And you better not do the old one, in spite of the fact that, according to the law of the Church, The old man was privileged, and don't think it could be forbidden.
02:37:35.000And we've seen this not just with the Catholic Church, but the Constitution.
02:37:39.000The textbooks don't quote the actual text, they tell you what it said.
02:37:44.000We see this with other organizations, and now the world is upside down, where what you have is, goodness is evil, and evil is good, is what they tell us.
02:37:54.000Yeah, and we even have a Pope coming out this past New Year's, and talking about how the New World Order is what we want.
02:39:47.000So you put your child in a Christian school, a Catholic school, and then they go, we're not going to teach that anymore!
02:39:52.000No, they had such nonsense as that Christ was going along in blind trust in his Father and he wound up on the cross wondering how he got there.
02:40:05.000So what was he talking about the last supper?
02:40:07.000Well, I mean, that's obviously a satanic doctrine that Jesus just didn't know what he was doing and had blind trust and wound up on the cross.
02:40:56.000well i i mean i've read the writings of the statements of the catholic church
02:40:59.000before fifty eight it's very conservative uh... anti-world government and then after that it becomes
02:41:05.000pro new world You really can see the total shift.
02:41:09.000Yeah, and you can even see it in the verbiage.
02:41:11.000There's nothing clearer than the statement of Catholic doctrine.
02:41:14.000But you read the documents of Vatican II, and you have to fight your way through the fog.
02:41:20.000Hutton, before we run out of time, I've had you on many times, and never promoted the fact that you've written four books and I've got a video you made and I've got your newsletter, but I haven't got one of these books.
02:43:42.000Well, it's like that preacher I had on in the first hour, Hutton, saying on air that he never heard of Luke 22-36 where Christ said, sell your garments and go buy swords.
02:45:41.000So it's contradicting the Gospel, but again, people don't go to the source documents to check it out, they just say, well this guy's wearing a big hat, so, you know, he must have the authority.
02:45:50.000Yeah, well, if they see that there's this quotation that they all use, uh, Behold, I am with you all days, even at the consummation of the world.
02:46:01.000But they don't leave the whole phrase in.
02:46:04.000It starts off with, "...going therefore to teach thee all nations, and I am with you all days."
02:46:31.000Well, basically, by conversing with other religions, the current Pope's come out and said that all religions are one, and we need this world religion.
02:46:41.000Basically, the Catholic Church, or what they call the Catholic Church, this abomination there in Rome, is saying we're going to merge with all these other religions.
02:47:01.000Uh, Hutton, how can people deny, I mean, the Supreme Court says they follow the orders of the UN, they're announcing the new world order on a daily basis, but then the FBI training manuals say anybody that talks about it's a raving lunatic.
02:47:26.000Unfortunately, They don't seem to be the ones that are going to church.
02:47:33.000Well, a lot of people just go to church and they want to feel good, and the preacher wants to make them feel good, and they just tell them to go along with all this.
02:47:39.000It's like Pat Robertson saying that, well, China's doing what it has to do with forced abortion and infanticide.
02:47:45.000He said that on CNN, he posted it on his website, and I, people get mad at me every time I say
02:49:40.000They didn't want anybody around that wanted to keep what he had.
02:49:44.000And now look at the Catholic Church today, or the abomination.
02:49:48.000It is falling apart, and do the people running it change course?
02:49:53.000No, they accelerate, because I guess they want it to fall apart.
02:49:56.000Well, that's part of it, but another thing, those that may be sincere think, well, we have to try something more.
02:50:02.000It would be terrible if they turned around and went back to what worked for 19 centuries.
02:50:09.000It's incredible, well... Of course they've gotten to the point where there's no clergy around anymore to do it.
02:50:17.000Because they did change the sacrament of holy orders while they were at it.
02:50:20.000Same day they put in a new mass, they put in a new set of holy orders and we haven't had a priest properly ordained or a bishop properly consecrated in the Latin Rite that was in communication with Rome.
02:50:33.000You might find some in China or Ukraine, someplace where the The Iron Curtain got in the way.
02:50:41.000We'll be right back for the final segment.
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02:54:30.000And how much to get the newsletter, Hutton?
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02:55:00.000Hutton, in the last few minutes we've got left, and I definitely want to have you back up again in the future to get more into the New World Order, because I respect your opinion and research on it.
02:57:17.000Hutton Gibson, it's good to know that they're wholesome, decent people like yourself and your wife and your children and grandchildren out there fighting the globalists.
02:57:27.000And it was great to have you on the show.
02:57:29.000Be careful on your upcoming trip and God bless you.
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