Alex Jones Show - 20040223_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:33.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:34.000 It is Monday, the 23rd of February, 2004.

00:00:39.000 Two days until The Passion of Christ comes out.

00:00:42.000 I'll be there on Wednesday afternoon watching it and giving you my report on Thursday.

00:00:47.000 I apologize for not being here last Thursday and Friday.

00:00:51.000 I normally do the show when I am sick.

00:00:54.000 I'm rarely sick.

00:00:55.000 I thought I had a cold last week.

00:00:56.000 It turned into the flu.

00:00:58.000 104 temperature.

00:01:00.000 Let's just say I was not a happy camper, so I could not do the show.

00:01:04.000 But I am here totally recuperated.

00:01:08.000 In fact, there was some good side effects.

00:01:10.000 I'm off coffee.

00:01:11.000 I said, hey, I haven't had coffee in three or four days.

00:01:14.000 Why drink coffee now?

00:01:16.000 So I'm off coffee.

00:01:18.000 So I guess the only drugs I use now are occasional Tylenol.

00:01:23.000 And I lost 10 pounds while I was sick, so I'm even more handsome now.

00:01:28.000 Okay, I've never had more to talk about.

00:01:30.000 Just an absolutely gigantic, ultra-massive show.

00:01:36.000 Coming up in the next hour, folks, you're not going to want to miss this.

00:01:41.000 We have a very interesting individual coming on the show, Michael Shrimpton, a national security barrister.

00:01:48.000 He's written for the Journal of International Security Affairs.

00:01:53.000 He has briefed the United States Senate Committee on Intelligence and a lot more.

00:02:01.000 A lengthy bio.

00:02:03.000 You can just type his name in online and see a lot of the big cases he's been involved in.

00:02:08.000 He's traveled all over the Western world and given speeches and consulted on terrorism.

00:02:14.000 Guess why he's joining us on the show?

00:02:18.000 Well, last week you may have seen a story floating around that somebody inside the British government had sources that said that they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.

00:02:29.000 We've already got all these top doctors and scientists coming forward and saying that.

00:02:32.000 We've got all the evidence and even mainstream headlines saying, is this what happened?

00:02:37.000 Well, he's got sources inside MI5, MI6, and from the information he has, they know how He knows how they killed him, how they killed Dr. David Kelly, and why they killed Dr. David Kelly.

00:02:52.000 And that's because they have to protect Tony Blair at all costs, because Tony Blair is Europe's man to bring in the euro.

00:03:01.000 And according to the information that my guest is going to be sharing with us, the French intelligence was used to do the dirty work, which is what I've seen in the past.

00:03:12.000 An intelligence agency of a country will use its sister intelligence agency that it works with in another nation to do hits for them, and that happens vice versa.

00:03:24.000 That happened at Waco, according to the Fort Worth Star newspaper, where they used MI5-controlled special air services people out there doing some of the wet work.

00:03:37.000 So this is done over and over again, where they use foreign troops, foreign individuals, to kill their own people internally, because it's very dangerous to use your own intelligence people to kill fellow intelligence people, like Dr. David Kelly, who was a top spy, and of course, head of Fort Downe Bioweapons Lab, and the head British inspector.

00:03:58.000 So, again, that's coming up the next hour.

00:04:00.000 We appreciate Mr. Shrimpton, Michael Shrimpton, coming on the show, Barrister Shrimpton, Again, who's even given security briefings to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country.

00:04:14.000 He'll be joining us from England, and I want to thank the folks that helped us put this story together.

00:04:19.000 We'll be writing an article tonight and thanking them, all the great folks that have been involved in this.

00:04:27.000 And then when we get back, it is true, I made some phone calls after I got better this weekend.

00:04:34.000 It is true, in In Lyon County, Kentucky, it is illegal to give someone one of my videotapes.

00:04:43.000 It's illegal to give them a History Channel videotape.

00:04:46.000 It's illegal to speak out against any government policy.

00:04:50.000 It's even been in the newspaper.

00:04:52.000 And I've made the phone calls, got the faxes, got the news articles.

00:04:56.000 That's true, too.

00:04:58.000 So we'll talk about that a lot more.

00:04:59.000 Just stay with us.

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00:08:08.000 All right, my friends, a big show for you today, eight minutes into this three-hour broadcast.

00:08:16.000 Coming up in the next hour, we have Michael Shrimpton, national Intelligence barrister and so does national intelligence work for the government national security work again he has briefed the Senate Select Committee on

00:08:33.000 On intelligence and terrorism here in the U.S.

00:08:37.000 and he has traveled extensively all over the world and spoken and consulted concerning terrorism and he says the evidence is clear.

00:08:45.000 He has his sources throughout the British government.

00:08:48.000 He knows who killed Dr. David Kelly.

00:08:52.000 So you're not going to want to miss this interview in the second hour.

00:08:57.000 Three doctors dispute how David Kelly died.

00:09:01.000 This was, of course, out of major British newspapers a week ago.

00:09:05.000 As medical professionals and trauma orthopedic surgeon, a specialist in anesthesiology and a diagnostic radiologist, we do not think evidence given at the Hutton Inquiry has demonstrated that Dr. David Kelly committed suicide!

00:09:21.000 And then, David Halpin, who we've got coming on this week, trauma and orthopedic surgeon, talks about how he was clearly murdered.

00:09:29.000 Dr. C. Stephen Frost, B.C., M.B., C.H.B., specialist in diagnostic radiology, Stockholm, Sweden, is also going to be coming on the show, talks about how he was clearly whacked and others.

00:09:43.000 So, you do not want to miss this.

00:09:45.000 And of course, he told colleagues that I'm going to be murdered and put in the woods for what I've said.

00:09:50.000 And a few weeks later, he was dead.

00:09:52.000 It's like Princess Diana saying, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a fake automobile accident if I don't stop, you know, going out with Dowdy.

00:10:02.000 And then what happens?

00:10:03.000 It's just, I mean, come on here!

00:10:05.000 I'm going to be murdered and put in the woods!

00:10:08.000 This is what this big spy chief was saying, and then it happens to him.

00:10:14.000 And I was talking to Mr. Shrimpton, Barrister Shrimpton today, and he said people are very mad at intelligence.

00:10:21.000 I mean, they don't like it when their own people are being killed.

00:10:24.000 So that's coming up.

00:10:28.000 I mentioned in the last segment that it indeed is true that in areas of Kentucky there is no First Amendment.

00:10:37.000 I called the judge up this weekend concerning that case we talked about last Wednesday before I fell ill on this Thursday and Friday with the dastardly flu.

00:10:47.000 And I had the caller who called into the show and he talked about how he just gave a cop a video and the cop later pulled him over and said this was a threat and took him to jail.

00:11:01.000 It wasn't just my video, it was Discovery Channel, C-SPAN stuff, History Channel programs.

00:11:08.000 And the officer thought that this was a threat.

00:11:10.000 You know, mainstream television shows.

00:11:12.000 Here, watch this.

00:11:13.000 It's informative.

00:11:15.000 And I found out from the prosecutor's office that, well, they don't really want to prosecute this, but the state police have requested it.

00:11:23.000 Of course, they've got the proper federal training and all.

00:11:25.000 And they decided to go ahead and, well, he's in court right now.

00:11:29.000 He's supposed to call an aftercourt.

00:11:31.000 And tell us what happens if Kelly Rushing even gets out of there.

00:11:35.000 I talked to his brother, Tim Rushing.

00:11:37.000 Kelly got my videos from Tim.

00:11:41.000 And Tim's brother gave him the contraband material, the Evil History and Discovery Channel pieces, and C-SPAN pieces as well.

00:11:51.000 So this is America, folks, and the judge just sat there and told them, you're guilty of giving a police officer anti-government, anti-police material.

00:11:59.000 And remember, I have the mainstream documents.

00:12:02.000 Law Enforcement Technology Magazine says if they've got to get us out of the UN sticker on their car, go ahead and take them to jail.

00:12:09.000 Chances are they're a terrorist or a criminal.

00:12:11.000 And it even said in there, Police Chiefs, don't criticize your men and women for doing this.

00:12:16.000 They're doing the right thing.

00:12:17.000 Go ahead and find something on these people.

00:12:19.000 Major magazines say, go ahead and find something on us, because we don't like the UN.

00:12:25.000 I mean the Republican Party platform in most states says get out of the U.N.

00:12:30.000 The Texas platform does.

00:12:31.000 Most people don't like the U.N.

00:12:33.000 Even liberals don't like the U.N.

00:12:34.000 in many cases.

00:12:36.000 But even everybody hated it.

00:12:38.000 And we were 1% of the population.

00:12:40.000 It's called the First Amendment. 1.00

00:12:41.000 You morons! 1.00

00:12:43.000 What is wrong with you? 1.00

00:12:45.000 And a good old boy with no criminal record.

00:12:48.000 I mean, I called all over town.

00:12:49.000 I talked to the newspaper.

00:12:50.000 I talked to his family.

00:12:52.000 I call people randomly out of the, you know, from information.

00:12:56.000 Hey, do you know this Kelly Rushing?

00:12:58.000 Oh, he's a really nice man.

00:13:00.000 Helps in the community.

00:13:01.000 Stays to himself.

00:13:03.000 It's a little bitty town.

00:13:05.000 He just gives a police officer a view.

00:13:08.000 Officer, you may want to find out about the New World Order.

00:13:11.000 Well here, let me arrest you!

00:13:13.000 And we're gonna try to put you in jail for a year!

00:13:16.000 This proves we're in the Soviet Union! 0.98

00:13:20.000 I can't handle it anymore, folks.

00:13:21.000 So that's coming up to, um... Okay, coming up.

00:13:30.000 It's just, this show is too jam-packed.

00:13:33.000 Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could.

00:13:37.000 This is by Jewish leader Daniel LePen, who's a rabbi.

00:13:42.000 And he's saying exactly what I said last week. 0.76

00:13:45.000 That the ADL should not represent Jews, and that it's a sick joke.

00:13:51.000 And that they cause division, and that all the Jews he's talking to think it's a big joke, and are friends with Christians, and he says every Christian he knows likes Jews.

00:14:01.000 I like Jews!

00:14:02.000 I got Jewish friends!

00:14:03.000 And I'm sick of this!

00:14:05.000 I'm tired of the ADL and the rest of these people!

00:14:07.000 And you gotta read this Daily News editorial.

00:14:10.000 It's on Infowars.com, by this rabbi. 0.84

00:14:13.000 I mean, it's like I wrote this article or something.

00:14:16.000 I mean, I'm totally in agreement with this guy.

00:14:19.000 And I'm not going to get into Hutton Gibson.

00:14:21.000 I've talked to Hutton Gibson many times.

00:14:23.000 He is not anti-Semitic.

00:14:24.000 He says he doesn't like Nazis.

00:14:27.000 He doesn't like Zionists. 1.00

00:14:29.000 He doesn't like the corrupt Catholic Church.

00:14:31.000 I mean, there's not a lot of things that Hutton Gibson likes, and he's the winner of, you know, Jeopardy, and he knows history, and he's a pretty smart guy, and he does think the Holocaust happened. 0.92

00:14:40.000 He just debates the numbers and says that people should be allowed to debate those numbers, and he says these interviews have been taken out of context, and so we'll see what happens.

00:14:49.000 I had MSNBC call me.

00:14:51.000 I had CNN call.

00:14:53.000 I had a bunch of other people call.

00:14:55.000 And I'm not doing interviews.

00:14:56.000 I'm not going to go on national TV and talk about Hutton Gibson.

00:15:00.000 Alexander Emmerich Jones doesn't do that to his friends.

00:15:03.000 I can care less about being on MSNBC or CNN or something like that.

00:15:09.000 I'm just not going to do it.

00:15:10.000 I thought about going on and defending Hutton.

00:15:14.000 I'm just not going to get involved in it.

00:15:16.000 I'm just not going to get involved in it.

00:15:20.000 Who knows, I might have a change of heart and do it.

00:15:23.000 I've been a little weird, folks.

00:15:26.000 I'm somebody who never gets sick.

00:15:27.000 I mean, I get a cold or something, I just ignore it.

00:15:29.000 I get a fever, it's like I don't have it.

00:15:31.000 Well, let me tell you.

00:15:33.000 Let me tell you.

00:15:34.000 I had a 104 fever for two days.

00:15:37.000 I had to go to the emergency clinic.

00:15:39.000 I was puking for two days.

00:15:41.000 I mean, every hour on the hour.

00:15:43.000 Dry heaves.

00:15:44.000 I don't know why I'm even telling you about this, but I feel like a new man.

00:15:47.000 I mean, I just feel cleansed somehow, and I feel really good.

00:15:52.000 And, uh, so... I'm saying I don't know what I'll do tomorrow.

00:15:57.000 I'm kind of unpredictable right now.

00:16:00.000 House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.

00:16:04.000 Now, folks, I have a stack.

00:16:07.000 This is why I'm frustrated.

00:16:08.000 It's been four or five days since I've been on the air, and it's just a giant stack.

00:16:13.000 House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.

00:16:19.000 And, uh, hmm, sounds interesting.

00:16:22.000 Do you know what that's fancy doublespeak for?

00:16:25.000 Well, what I told you they were going to do.

00:16:27.000 And again, I hate to say it, because I told you, because I told you, because I told you, but I have their official plans.

00:16:32.000 New Mexico has passed the law out of the House, it's in the Senate, to make everyone blow a breathalyzer to start your car.

00:16:40.000 Everyone guilty until proven innocent.

00:16:42.000 Why?

00:16:42.000 If it just saves one life.

00:16:44.000 And then they're going to say that this doesn't work because people have others blow, so oh, we're going to have to retina scan you, and it'll decide if you're drunk, and this will be the new law.

00:16:54.000 Now, how do I know that?

00:16:55.000 Because I saw the federal plans four or five years ago, I read Houston Chronicle articles three years ago, They have a system that they're already putting into businesses all over the country, and the Feds are using a retina scanner that also reads microscopic movement of the eye, and it'll decide if you're on drugs, or drunk, or tired, and they want to put all these in the cars, and so they're going to make you use the breathalyzer, then people are going to cheat, and they're going to say, okay, you've got a retina scan to start your car.

00:17:21.000 Now that's the official plan.

00:17:22.000 If you want to put up with it, go ahead.

00:17:25.000 And then if you're not a good globalist, they turn your car off, and they're going to have infrared cameras on all the cars by 2005, quote, as a detector if there's a child in the car when it's too hot.

00:17:37.000 But again, the federal plan is it's really a camera.

00:17:39.000 Just like I told you, OnStar is listening to you.

00:17:42.000 Now that's mainstream news, hooked in with the NSA listening to you with computers.

00:17:49.000 So I'll get back into this.

00:17:50.000 I could spend an hour on that.

00:17:53.000 Remember last week, we talked about the bill where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist.

00:18:00.000 If you criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist.

00:18:02.000 I mean, I read from the bill.

00:18:04.000 In Rhode Island, and they passed the law in other states.

00:18:08.000 People couldn't believe it.

00:18:09.000 We posted the Providence Journal articles and others at InfoWars.com.

00:18:13.000 Here it is, right here in front of me.

00:18:17.000 And it says, Governor pulls bill on Homeland Security.

00:18:19.000 The Governor, who says he is surprised by the reaction to his proposal, will introduce another anti-terrorism law this legislative session.

00:18:26.000 See, that's what they do.

00:18:28.000 Governor withdrew his Homeland Security bill yesterday after Congressional scholars from the American Civil Liberties Union assailed the proposal as a dangerous assault on civil rights.

00:18:38.000 The Governor said he had not read the bill, but that his staff wrote it before he made it public.

00:18:45.000 But he received a briefing.

00:18:49.000 This is not the kind of reaction I anticipated or expected.

00:18:52.000 The governor said in a brief news conference outside his office.

00:18:56.000 And so he now claims he hadn't read the bill.

00:19:00.000 And it was the 1918 Sedition Law, the one Savage calls for, that if you criticize the government in time of war, you're put in a forced labor camp.

00:19:10.000 And I have another bill here where we have them in Canada calling for forest forced labor camps.

00:19:18.000 Yes, it's really happening.

00:19:21.000 And if we don't speak up, they're going to pass this stuff.

00:19:25.000 If we do speak up, they're not going to get away with it.

00:19:28.000 And some people don't believe what this bill had in it.

00:19:30.000 So later if I have time, I want to read some of what was in this bill.

00:19:35.000 Supreme Court upholds judges' right to compel medication to prepare you for trial.

00:19:41.000 Years of FBI agents' crimes to tell from CBS News.

00:19:44.000 I could spend an hour on the murders, the heroin, the cocaine dealing.

00:19:49.000 They are organized crime.

00:19:51.000 They are the Mafia.

00:19:53.000 And they say Bin Laden is surrounded.

00:19:55.000 They're about to capture him.

00:19:57.000 As we said they would years ago.

00:19:58.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:05.000 I'm going to try to focus here.

00:24:06.000 Your calls are coming up in this first hour.

00:24:09.000 I do want to read this editorial, at least the first page of it.

00:24:14.000 By Rabbi Daniel Lappin.

00:24:17.000 Anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than film could.

00:24:20.000 And that's true.

00:24:21.000 Nobody would have even gone to this film and thought anything about Jews.

00:24:24.000 I mean, Jesus was a Jew, folks. 0.58

00:24:27.000 And that, you know, that's what happened.

00:24:29.000 He was criticizing the corruption of the establishment and of the religion.

00:24:33.000 Also, I want to get back into house votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.

00:24:38.000 They've passed a law, it's out of the house in New Mexico, and other states are doing the same thing, it's federally funded to do all this, to make you blow a breathalyzer to start your car, training you that you're guilty until proven innocent.

00:24:53.000 It's the new Soviet model. 0.92

00:24:55.000 Do I have to explain how this is un-American? 0.86

00:24:58.000 And I want to get back into the governor of Rhode Island having to pull this bill.

00:25:02.000 I mean, I've never seen one this bad, where if you fly any flag with the American flag, you'll be put in a camp.

00:25:09.000 If you criticize the government, you'll be put in a camp.

00:25:12.000 Folks, it actually said that.

00:25:15.000 And the governor said, I didn't read it.

00:25:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:18.000 I'm getting this firestorm.

00:25:22.000 So that's coming up, too.

00:25:24.000 And the Supreme Court saying, hey, we can grab you, not even charge you, drug you as long as we want to.

00:25:29.000 That's the New York Times.

00:25:32.000 This CBS article about the FBI murder, drug dealing, prostitution, running organized crime.

00:25:40.000 The John Gottis of the world work for the FBI. 0.54

00:25:43.000 And when one stops paying their cut, the FBI busts them and calls them a kingpin.

00:25:48.000 When Noriega stops paying in the cocaine money, he gets a military raid.

00:25:52.000 When Saddam stops paying in the oil money and the BCCI, he gets a raid.

00:25:57.000 That's how it works.

00:25:58.000 These are mid-level nobodies.

00:25:59.000 Bin Laden is surrounded.

00:26:01.000 Sunday Telegraph, Washington Times, U.S.

00:26:03.000 search for Bin Laden intensifies.

00:26:05.000 Oh, they've got him.

00:26:06.000 So, we'll get back into that, too.

00:26:10.000 That's the first half inch of a four-inch stack.

00:26:14.000 Okay?

00:26:16.000 But right now, The next ten minutes or so, part of the segment of the next segment, I want to talk to Tim Rushing, and I know his brother's trying to get in on the line, the man this happened to, Kelly Rushing, out in Lyon County, Kentucky, where giving someone a C-SPAN video is punishable by one year in prison.

00:26:40.000 uh... the police uh... the state police and prosecutor they say yes uh... you're not allowed to give police mainstream videos and say sir this might be informative uh... and i'm not joking i mean you know we don't joke on the show folks if we are joking we'll tell you i mean this is just let's be honest about how sovietized we've gotten and uh... Tim is the brother of uh... Kelly and uh... Mr. Rushing good to have you on the show how did your brothers uh...

00:27:06.000 Beginning of his trial go this morning.

00:27:09.000 Well Alex, looks like they're going to hold it over until March the 8th.

00:27:13.000 So they're going to continue to try to stall things?

00:27:16.000 Looks that way.

00:27:17.000 So what happened when you went before the magistrate who I talked to at his home this weekend by the way?

00:27:23.000 Well, I talked to William G. McCaslin, the judge, this weekend.

00:27:29.000 What did he say at the little court hearing this morning?

00:27:33.000 I haven't talked to Kelly in about five minutes.

00:27:34.000 All he told me is that they were holding over and he was trying to call in to give you the particulars.

00:27:40.000 Was he able to get through, Stephanie?

00:27:40.000 Well, okay.

00:27:44.000 Okay.

00:27:45.000 Perhaps you need to call him and make sure he's got the right number.

00:27:48.000 Kelly, if you're out there listening, I don't know if we have phone lines open, but 1-800-259-9231, Kelly.

00:27:52.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:27:52.000 We need to get him on.

00:27:54.000 I made about 20 phone calls this weekend.

00:27:57.000 two five nine nine two three one we need to get him on i made about twenty phone calls this weekend i confirm this

00:28:05.000 story uh...

00:28:06.000 i mean this is hard to believe can that in america given somebody a c-span video

00:28:11.000 and alex jones video and the state police have told the prosecutor we want

00:28:16.000 that man behind bars for years for giving us this video Well, I don't think we're going to stop handing them out.

00:28:22.000 I guess we just better get our bags ready for Cleb Guantanamo and our toothbrushes and everything, because we're not going to stop.

00:28:28.000 Well, if they want to make a big deal out of this, they're going to get in deep trouble.

00:28:31.000 There's a lot of organizations that will want to take this case.

00:28:34.000 As long as your brother doesn't plea bargain, he's going to be just fine.

00:28:37.000 You know, unless they pull some good old boy behavior on him.

00:28:40.000 But I've been told the judge, the prosecutor, they don't like it.

00:28:43.000 But they think, supposedly, I guess that the state police are their bosses or something.

00:28:49.000 That's what I understand.

00:28:50.000 The state police are pushing this.

00:28:52.000 Probably, it would be my guess, that the officer that watched the tape, he was probably guilty of some of the tactics that he portrayed on the film and got a little upset and thought he'd take it out on Kelly.

00:29:04.000 What type of individual would want to put somebody behind bars for years for no reason?

00:29:09.000 I mean, just because you don't like the video you got?

00:29:14.000 Well, you know their mentality.

00:29:16.000 It's us against them.

00:29:17.000 I mean, you know, they're our overlords, our protectors.

00:29:21.000 And they know what's best for us.

00:29:23.000 The incredible thing is, they admit in the newspaper and the police admit.

00:29:26.000 I mean, there's been news articles about this, folks.

00:29:28.000 I've got them.

00:29:30.000 He gave them a video.

00:29:31.000 That's his crime.

00:29:32.000 Just mainstream video.

00:29:33.000 Yeah, there was an article come out down there in the paper supposedly about this.

00:29:38.000 Well, there was already one article about your brother's arrest.

00:29:41.000 I think there was one about the tape incident, too, if I'm not mistaken.

00:29:43.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:29:44.000 Both of you stay there.

00:29:45.000 We've got Kelly now.

00:29:46.000 Tim, stay there.

00:29:47.000 We'll be back.

00:29:48.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:11.000 Waging war on corruption, crashing the lives of disinformation, coming up... Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England, Written for the Journal of International Security Affairs, briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in our own country, bringing forward the evidence from his inside sources of who really killed Dr. David Kelly.

00:33:38.000 Believe me, you're not going to want to miss this interview.

00:33:40.000 We're going to finish up with our guest here in just a few minutes with the First Amendment 0.98

00:33:44.000 here in America, the state of it, with the incredibly brainwashed, zombified state police

00:33:50.000 and other militarized law enforcement agencies around the country who really ought to move

00:33:55.000 to Mexico or Russia.

00:33:57.000 Then we'll get to four or five phone calls and then back into some other news and then

00:34:02.000 to our next guest.

00:34:04.000 There is so much here today.

00:34:05.000 We're talking to Kelly Rushing, who lives in Lyons County, Kentucky, who gave a video

00:34:12.000 to a state police officer.

00:34:13.000 I have the state police officer's own police report.

00:34:15.000 He says that he was given this video and he says that it was threatening.

00:34:23.000 Mr. Rushing's brother, Tim Rushing, made the videos.

00:34:27.000 It was C-SPAN, History Channel, Discovery Channel stuff.

00:34:30.000 One of my videos.

00:34:32.000 And by the way, one of my videos, stuff from my videos, is aired on national TV.

00:34:35.000 This is just documented stuff, just like this show, mainstream news stuff.

00:34:39.000 We just analyze it.

00:34:40.000 Nothing threatening to this guy.

00:34:42.000 So he goes and has him arrested.

00:34:45.000 And by the way, this just happened to a Keep and Bear Arms writer, who also writes for Guns and Ammo.

00:34:50.000 He had police come to his house, Because he wrote a letter to the San Francisco Police Department saying, you guys are violating the law, uh, handing out these, uh, marriage certificates.

00:35:02.000 That's all he said.

00:35:04.000 And they came out and said, you know, you're a gun writer.

00:35:07.000 You're not planning to use some guns, are you?

00:35:09.000 I mean, that's how, see, it's all these secret police need to talk to you, because you might, you know, do something, but the border stays wide open.

00:35:20.000 Going back here for a few minutes to Kelly Rushing.

00:35:24.000 Kelly, what happened to you, thought criminal that you are, when you went in now to the court this morning before Judge William G. McCaslin for your crime, as he said, of giving someone an anti-government videotape?

00:35:39.000 Well, that was Bill McCaslin, but Bill G. McCaslin.

00:35:44.000 What happened was not a whole lot.

00:35:48.000 They're discontinuing it until March the 8th because the prosecuting attorney hasn't seen the arrest tape yet, from my understanding.

00:35:58.000 Now through discovery before that tape disappears and the cop claims that you were, you know, Flying around with flying saucers and black satanic altars and dragons shooting up out of the ground.

00:36:09.000 Before he claimed that you had lasers shooting out of your eyes and grew 19 inch fangs and spit acid on him.

00:36:15.000 Before he says that, you need to do discovery and get that video.

00:36:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:21.000 Because he'll claim you sprouted wings, you know, later. 0.68

00:36:26.000 But luckily we've got his police report.

00:36:29.000 He says the video is threatening and that's the crime.

00:36:32.000 Right.

00:36:32.000 I did give a couple of the tapes to the prosecuting attorney and he called me over and said that he enjoyed the tapes and told me that they wouldn't get his gun unless they prodded out of his cold dead hand.

00:36:47.000 Well see this is the point, and I've gotten the same thing from the city and the county.

00:36:51.000 They don't want to go after you but the state police are filing a complaint.

00:36:54.000 Right.

00:36:55.000 So he enjoyed the videos but he's still going to prosecute you.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, well.

00:37:00.000 But what did you say to him?

00:37:03.000 Well, I just basically said, well, we see eye to eye about the gun issue.

00:37:09.000 Now, he might have been trying to get you to say something like, yeah, they'll never get mine.

00:37:13.000 Oh, that's a threat!

00:37:14.000 That's a threat!

00:37:15.000 Swat team!

00:37:16.000 I wouldn't even talk to these people.

00:37:19.000 Now, did they say they're going to drop this, or they're just going to hear it later?

00:37:22.000 No, they're going to review the arrest tape to see what kind of approach they're going to take.

00:37:30.000 The policeman said that there's some things that I said on the arrest tape that proves his point.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, I love this.

00:37:37.000 He arrests you for giving him a video and then tries to claim that you threatened him in the police car.

00:37:41.000 That's like Carl Klang, by the way.

00:37:45.000 They finally released him after two and a half months.

00:37:47.000 The judge said, I don't know why you were held this long.

00:37:50.000 I apologize.

00:37:51.000 I have the Associated Press article.

00:37:53.000 Yeah, oh no, the bed charges came, which they by the way dropped, once he was in the jail cell.

00:38:01.000 See, they arrest you so you can commit the crimes in the jail cell or in the squad car.

00:38:05.000 I love this new Soviet system.

00:38:07.000 Yeah, I know that after he told me to get out of the truck, and that's all he said when he came to my window, and the second thing he said was turn around, And at that time I asked him, what am I being arrested for?

00:38:23.000 And at that time he said, terroristic threatening.

00:38:26.000 And then later on when I told him, when I was in the car... I understand you had a discussion with him and you said that you said, well I haven't threatened you.

00:38:35.000 I mean, I think a man would want to know what's going on in the world for his family.

00:38:39.000 So now the word family's a threat, see?

00:38:41.000 I mean, that's what we all say.

00:38:43.000 We're trying to protect our children, protect this country, our children's future.

00:38:47.000 Well, I've just threatened everybody's children, because I said the word children.

00:38:50.000 Now, Jerry, you will convict that man!

00:38:53.000 You will convict Kelly Rushing, because he said the word family!

00:38:58.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:38:59.000 Alex, if Kelly's such a threat to that officer, then why did that officer allow Kelly to leave with his firearm?

00:39:06.000 Oh, that's right.

00:39:07.000 Kelly had a firearm in the vehicle, and then when he left jail, they gave it back to him.

00:39:10.000 That's right.

00:39:11.000 No, they never took it from out of the vehicle.

00:39:14.000 They left it when they impounded the vehicle.

00:39:18.000 The lazy possums may not have looked.

00:39:22.000 No, they pulled the... He had Kelly remove it from the glove compartment, and he looked at it and put it back in the glove compartment.

00:39:29.000 Well, that just means that people still believe in the Second Amendment and aren't completely brainwashed.

00:39:33.000 No, he didn't have me remove it.

00:39:35.000 He opened the glove box and I was sitting in the car and could see him opening the glove box and at that time I told him it was legal.

00:39:44.000 And he closed it back up.

00:39:45.000 So basically it's gotten to the point where the prosecutor and the judge know that they can't get you on an Alex Jones and a C-Span video.

00:39:53.000 So they're going to try to find something on the tape which you didn't do and so you just show that tape to the jury.

00:39:58.000 Yeah, I think they're starting to back step now.

00:40:01.000 Well, listen, you keep me abreast of this.

00:40:03.000 You do not plea bargain.

00:40:05.000 And if they try something, we'll put the phone numbers out.

00:40:08.000 We'll try to get folks there for court watchers. 0.84

00:40:11.000 You need support there, buddy.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

00:40:15.000 Because anybody that would try to charge someone... So you've been officially charged now with terrorist threats.

00:40:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:25.000 I know that when I first went to court there, and I've been driving around with a sign in my back window, which is Isaiah 520, which says, Woe unto those that perceive evil for good and good for evil, light for darkness, darkness for light, bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

00:40:42.000 And then it says after that, Woe unto those that are wise in the sight of their own eyes.

00:40:48.000 So, that may shook them up a little bit.

00:40:54.000 Well, they probably, according to FEMA, that's more terrorism.

00:40:58.000 Don't give the cops any Bible verses, buddy!

00:41:04.000 Look at how much trouble LaPassion's in.

00:41:06.000 My goodness, we've got to watch people like you. 0.75

00:41:08.000 Well, listen, keep me abreast of the situation.

00:41:10.000 So they didn't drop it.

00:41:11.000 Did your lawyer move for a motion to dismiss?

00:41:15.000 He took me in a personal room there and told me that he thinks that we're going to Get it dismissed to where there's no charges.

00:41:27.000 But he didn't say you just got a plea bargain, bud.

00:41:30.000 No, they haven't tried the plea bargain yet.

00:41:34.000 Well, don't unpack your bag, Kelly, because Club Guantanamo's waiting for us.

00:41:38.000 Yeah. 0.75

00:41:40.000 Now, we're actually talking to the radical criminal right now, and of course I'm evil myself, but he's almost as evil.

00:41:47.000 Tim Rushing, now you made these videos, exactly what was on the videos your brother gave this officer?

00:41:55.000 Of course he gave him a 9-1-1 tape, and then there was...

00:41:59.000 There was a speech that Ron Paul gave on one.

00:42:03.000 Oh, how evil!

00:42:06.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:42:07.000 Maybe the congressman should be arrested.

00:42:10.000 I mean, in Rhode Island he would be if this law had passed.

00:42:12.000 Now, tell me specifically what Ron Paul speech.

00:42:16.000 It was the one where he was talking about the Federal Reserve and the neocons that have hijacked the GOP.

00:42:22.000 Sir, you're saying you've got that tape.

00:42:24.000 I never got that tape.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, I've got that.

00:42:26.000 Tim, promise me you'll mail me your best copy of that.

00:42:29.000 I'll get you the best copy, Alex.

00:42:30.000 I'll send you five free videos.

00:42:33.000 I've got all your videos.

00:42:34.000 I'll send you some more.

00:42:35.000 Promise me you will.

00:42:37.000 I'll get it in the mail today to you, Alex.

00:42:39.000 And write Neocon on there for me. 0.78

00:42:41.000 I'll do it.

00:42:42.000 Now, I'm starting to understand.

00:42:44.000 You put the congressman, the Vietnam veteran, the most conservative member of congress on there, talking about the Neocons. 0.98

00:42:50.000 Boy, this is really evil.

00:42:51.000 That was on there.

00:42:52.000 Then there was Fortress America.

00:42:55.000 Fortress America, which is the thing they did on the Tech Channel about the cameras going up everywhere and about how we're losing our civil liberties because of this war on terrorism.

00:43:05.000 Very radical to put a mainstream news piece on there.

00:43:09.000 Conspiracies.

00:43:10.000 There were some conspiracy theory episodes on there about the New World Order and Big Brother, I think, that runs on the Tech Channel also.

00:43:21.000 And that's basically it.

00:43:23.000 Boy, I tell ya.

00:43:25.000 I tell ya, this officer's doing his job.

00:43:29.000 I'm glad he's out there, Kelly, picking people like you up instead of real criminals.

00:43:33.000 Yeah, we feel well protected here in Kentucky, Alex.

00:43:37.000 You know, I talk to locals, and I call other members of your family, and I talk to the newspaper and other people, and supposedly your state police are pretty rampant around there.

00:43:47.000 If you look at them wrong, they're going to go ahead and take you on down.

00:43:50.000 That's a big imperative.

00:43:53.000 So I guess they're kind of God around there.

00:43:55.000 Do they set up shoe sign stations where you've got to park your cars and lick their boots so they're real shiny?

00:44:02.000 That's the next step, Alex.

00:44:04.000 Let's don't give them no ideas either.

00:44:07.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 Alright.

00:44:09.000 Well, gentlemen, you've got my home phone number.

00:44:11.000 Stay in touch.

00:44:11.000 We appreciate all you do, Alex.

00:44:13.000 And Tim, you told me you're going to keep giving the videos out, right?

00:44:16.000 Most definitely.

00:44:17.000 I've got the VCR working overtime now.

00:44:20.000 Kelly, what you saw in 9-11 actually happened to you, didn't it?

00:44:25.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 Yeah, it sure did.

00:44:27.000 Alright, thanks for the call, guys.

00:44:28.000 We appreciate it, Alex.

00:44:30.000 You bet.

00:44:30.000 I'm about to go to Andy and Eric and Mildred and Ray and Bill before our big guest comes on.

00:44:38.000 And just briefly, in my film, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, about five minutes of the two hour, two and a half hour film, there's a woman at a checkpoint.

00:44:47.000 And they say, we want to search your car, and she says no, so they jerk her out of the car, and then say she assaulted him, which she didn't, which she was later found not guilty of, and then they go, oh my gosh, we, you know, they found the pocket constitution, they found some material about the income tax, that, you know, this may be illegal!

00:45:03.000 Why, she's got videos in here! 1.00

00:45:06.000 Is this stuff legal?

00:45:07.000 I don't know if this is legal!

00:45:10.000 So it's not just FEMA videos and FEMA training manuals and ADL training manuals where they say if you're a Christian, you're a terrorist.

00:45:16.000 I mean, it's not just their manuals.

00:45:18.000 We got them out on the road, folks, thinking this.

00:45:21.000 Imagine a cop going out to their mailbox and pulling out Law Enforcement Technology magazine and opening it up and it says, if they've got an anti-UN sticker on their car, go ahead and arrest them.

00:45:33.000 I mean, how would a cop not start laughing Oh, they just read it and go, alright, well it's in a magazine.

00:45:41.000 I better arrest anybody that has an anti-U.N.

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00:45:49.000 How stupid are you? 1.00

00:45:52.000 You really shouldn't move to Russia. 1.00

00:45:56.000 This State Trooper, Dodd, is just... He really should move to Russia.

00:46:03.000 And luckily, Mr. Dodd, everything's recorded here, so you can't tell any lies about us.

00:46:09.000 When I call up people in Kentucky, I had a recorder running, too.

00:46:12.000 You're not going to pull your scams on me.

00:46:16.000 I know how to record you people.

00:46:19.000 Very important to record people like you, so you can't change the facts later.

00:46:28.000 But before we go to these calls, if you want to get 9-11, Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror, Police State 3, Total Enslavement, Matrix of Evil, you need to go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or you can simply call toll-free.

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00:47:34.000 These are great videos.

00:47:41.000 They're waking people up.

00:47:43.000 At least according to Trooper Dodd and the State Police of Kentucky, these videos are illegal.

00:47:51.000 And Ron Paul speaking in Congress is illegal.

00:47:54.000 Well, we say it's still legal.

00:47:56.000 We say it's still America.

00:47:57.000 It's not Russia yet.

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00:48:00.000 And so get the videos that people think are illegal.

00:48:04.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Andy in Texas.

00:48:06.000 Andy, thanks for holding.

00:48:07.000 Go ahead.

00:48:07.000 Hi, Alex.

00:48:09.000 I called in about 10 days ago and spoke to you about the Hurricane Andrew cover-up.

00:48:14.000 Yes.

00:48:14.000 And when I told you about K.T.

00:48:17.000 Frankovich, the woman who wrote the book about the cover-up?

00:48:19.000 Yes.

00:48:19.000 You offered to have her on the show.

00:48:21.000 Yes.

00:48:21.000 And I spoke to her and she really wants to come on.

00:48:23.000 Okay, well just send me an email at tips at InfoWars.com about it.

00:48:28.000 Okay, and she said that she had sent in an email and wasn't getting a response and I have her home phone if you'd like that.

00:48:34.000 Okay, let me put you on hold and we'll do that.

00:48:36.000 Anything else on your mind, Andy?

00:48:38.000 What do you think about the new Terry Nichols trial?

00:48:40.000 Are you encouraged by that?

00:48:44.000 These Oklahoma City trials are total charades, but yeah, they're having to have new trials because it came out the FBI covered up all this evidence.

00:48:52.000 What do you think about it?

00:48:53.000 Well, I mean, I'm hoping for the best because I think that they're having the new trial because of the final report by the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee.

00:49:02.000 That the government did it, but that obviously won't come out.

00:49:05.000 But yes, they're having to have a new trial.

00:49:07.000 I think it's all very encouraging.

00:49:09.000 We're exposing them.

00:49:10.000 We're exposing their whitewash commissions.

00:49:13.000 Yes, so... Hey, what do you think about breathalyzers having to blow to start your car?

00:49:19.000 Everyone!

00:49:20.000 Well, I hadn't heard about that.

00:49:22.000 Obviously, any type of mass regulation like that is very scary.

00:49:28.000 And all over the country, it was first, oh, just the football players and band members.

00:49:32.000 Now, this weekend, right after I read the article about everybody's going to have to breathalyzer, I hear, in San Marcos, all the children are going to have to drug test on a monthly basis.

00:49:43.000 Uh, the government, the federal government's involved, uh... I mean, look, it's everywhere!

00:49:50.000 This is, it's just, folk, that's not freedom!

00:49:53.000 Right.

00:49:53.000 Cameras in school bathrooms isn't freedom!

00:49:58.000 But yes, I want to get into that hurricane situation.

00:50:01.000 That is an interesting, nice little martial law example.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, the book is called Where Heavens Meet.

00:50:07.000 Hey, what do you think of the situation with the governor in Rhode Island saying, I didn't read the martial law bill, I'm sorry, I'm going to change the law.

00:50:17.000 Yeah, very interesting.

00:50:18.000 Where did you say that you read this?

00:50:20.000 Where can I go to read this?

00:50:21.000 It's out in the Providence Journal.

00:50:23.000 It's on InfoWars.com.

00:50:26.000 It's on PrisonPlanet.com, too.

00:50:28.000 It says, Governor pulls Bill on Homeland Security.

00:50:33.000 Tarsieri, if I'm pronouncing that right.

00:50:35.000 Pulls Bill on Homeland Security.

00:50:38.000 The Governor, who says he's surprised by the reaction to his proposal, will introduce another anti-terrorism law this legislative season.

00:50:45.000 Thanks for the call, Andy.

00:50:47.000 Okay, Eric and Mildred and Ray and Bill and others, you're up next.

00:50:50.000 And we do have our big guest coming up, too.

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00:54:13.000 Let's get them out there and then move on to the next caller.

00:54:16.000 Let's talk to Eric in Connecticut.

00:54:18.000 Eric, go ahead.

00:54:19.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call and I'm glad you're feeling better.

00:54:23.000 You bet, thank you.

00:54:24.000 I just wanted to remind your listeners that this weekend, this Saturday, at the Castle Cinema up in Providence, I think it's from 2 p.m.

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00:54:33.000 There will be a showing of one of your videos, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:54:37.000 That's right.

00:54:37.000 They're going to be showing that.

00:54:38.000 There's information at the 1320 website.

00:54:42.000 And I have reservations for me and a buddy to see that.

00:54:45.000 Well, I appreciate you going.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, and I'll give you a report when I'm done, when we've seen it.

00:54:50.000 And I'm looking forward to it, and seeing fellow patriots up there.

00:54:54.000 I have not seen that particular video, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

00:54:58.000 And one other thing, Alex.

00:55:01.000 It's the longest video, so... Okay, did you know that Mr. Sean Hannity, you know when he went syndicated?

00:55:07.000 9-11.

00:55:10.000 Well, September 10th, 2001, and I heard a rumor that basically they had a big roundtable before that day, Roger Ailes and all the neocons, and they were basically tipped off and they were told, you tell the truth, your careers are toast, you go along with the line, you're going to make millions.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's pretty obvious what they did, and it's a staged deal, it's a CIA operation, we know that.

00:55:33.000 They're given their orders, what to do, what to say, how to operate, and Clear Channel owns the voting machines in many areas, and they run the candidates, and they, uh, everything!

00:55:43.000 They own the media, they own the voting machines, they own the candidates.

00:55:47.000 Yep, and even on the local paper, I tried to get my local paper to talk about World Trade Center 7, And one of the editors says, oh, I'm just not interested in it.

00:55:54.000 And I said, you're not interested in one of the biggest stories of the last... Yeah, the owner says we blew it up on national TV, and they can just go, okay, you blew it up, great, thanks a lot.

00:56:03.000 Yep.

00:56:03.000 Thanks for the call, Eric.

00:56:04.000 Okay, Alex.

00:56:05.000 Hey, good to hear from you.

00:56:06.000 Let's talk to Mildred in Colorado. 1.00

00:56:08.000 Mildred, go ahead. 1.00

00:56:10.000 Hi, Alex.

00:56:11.000 I was wondering what your definition of Zionist is.

00:56:15.000 I've been listening since the first of your show, and you were speaking then of being Of not being anti-semitic.

00:56:24.000 That's right, I'm not against... But you spoke of someone who was anti-zionist and you seemed to agree with them, so I just needed to know your definition of zionist. 0.98

00:56:34.000 Well, I'm against, say, Mecha, who says that they hate white people and blacks.

00:56:40.000 What's Mecha? 0.90

00:56:42.000 Ma'am, just let me answer your question, okay?

00:56:47.000 I'm against Mecha because they say they don't like certain races and that they're the best.

00:56:52.000 Okay, I'm against the Ku Klux Klan because they say that about whites. 0.98

00:56:56.000 And Zionists, you know, the real King Daddy, a real Zionist, thinks that they're the best and everybody else is basically dog meat. 0.99

00:57:06.000 And so that's who I'm talking about. 0.87

00:57:08.000 And most Jews are not Zionists. 0.89

00:57:10.000 So I'm against racist Jews. 0.99

00:57:12.000 I'm against racist blacks. 1.00

00:57:13.000 I'm against racist Germans. 0.99

00:57:16.000 And so that's what I said.

00:57:18.000 You don't think Zionism means that you support Israel?

00:57:23.000 No, that's not what it means.

00:57:25.000 If you really look at what the real Zionism is, it's a lot more than that. 0.84

00:57:30.000 It means domination by Israel of a certain group of people. 0.87

00:57:37.000 I can have a bunch of rabbis up and tell you that if you'd like me to.

00:57:40.000 I would like for you to.

00:57:42.000 Okay, well you better research what the Zionists say.

00:57:44.000 I mean, they don't have a very good view of people who aren't Jewish.

00:57:48.000 It's pretty racist stuff.

00:57:51.000 Well, thank you.

00:57:52.000 Hey, I appreciate your call, Mildred.

00:57:54.000 And, you know, maybe we should have a debate about this.

00:58:00.000 What I was talking about was this article, Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could.

00:58:06.000 Two weeks before the opening of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, online ticket merchants reported that up to half of their total sales were from the film.

00:58:15.000 One Dallas Multiplex has received and reserved all 20 of its screens for The Passion.

00:58:21.000 I am neither a prophet nor a movie critic.

00:58:23.000 I am merely an orthodox rabbi using ancient Jewish wisdom to make three predictions about the movie.

00:58:29.000 And Daniel Lapin, I totally agree with him.

00:58:34.000 I'm going to read this later.

00:58:35.000 This is good stuff.

00:58:37.000 About what he has to say about it.

00:58:40.000 I mean, no one would have thought anti-Semitism until the ADL injected this into it.

00:58:45.000 And now it's going to cause, it probably will cause some damage.

00:58:48.000 We'll be back with our guest.

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01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:17.000 Alright, my friends, we're now into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny and defense of liberty.

01:00:25.000 Coming up later in the show, they're saying they're about to capture Bin Laden, this time out of the mainstream news Reports out of the Sunday Telegraph, out of the Washington Times, and we believe this is going to be a stage capture.

01:00:42.000 We've been saying this for over two years from my White House sources.

01:00:46.000 Also, we'll get into anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than Film could, from a rabbi that wrote a great editorial, Daniel Lappin, that's going to come up later.

01:00:58.000 Also more on the Rhode Island governor withdrawing their martial law legislation.

01:01:04.000 He's now apologized and said that he hadn't read the bill.

01:01:07.000 You see, oh yes, you've read the bill.

01:01:09.000 You counted on us not reading it.

01:01:11.000 Now that we have, you've had to withdraw it.

01:01:13.000 More on that coming up.

01:01:15.000 Very serious issue.

01:01:16.000 Also, Supreme Court upholds judges' right to compel medication.

01:01:21.000 So now we have judges giving other judges police powers.

01:01:24.000 You gotta love it.

01:01:26.000 Soviet-style police powers.

01:01:29.000 CBS News, years of FBI agent crimes detailed.

01:01:33.000 That's coming up later in the broadcast, and I'll also get into some of Well, my comments on Hutton Gibson's supposed comments concerning, well, some interesting issues.

01:01:46.000 And I do have some comments on this, so that's coming up later as well.

01:01:51.000 Before we go to our first guest, who I'm honored to have, well, our guest for this hour, I wanted to just remind you that Dr. David Kelly uh... was the head of the level four porton down bio weapons lab in wilshire england and he was then the head british weapons inspector who'd been pro war he then came back and leaked information that look i'm a hawk for this war but i'm not gonna lie saddam doesn't have weapons of mass destruction and tony blair misused my assessment

01:02:26.000 Well, suddenly he wound up dead.

01:02:28.000 He told British and U.S. 0.96

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01:02:35.000 This is now mainstream news.

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01:02:46.000 And we have that posted at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:02:52.000 So a lot of people are starting to go public on this.

01:02:57.000 There were rumors of this last week that somebody who'd been inside the British government had sources that said that they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.

01:03:06.000 But the folks that got that story, I guess, didn't take time out to go ahead and get in contact with the individual who was bringing forward this information himself.

01:03:14.000 We've done that.

01:03:15.000 He's coming up here in just a few minutes, and we're so honored to have him with us here on the show.

01:03:22.000 He's Michael Shrimpton, and Michael Shrimpton has a long bio.

01:03:27.000 I did some research on him over the weekend.

01:03:31.000 Michael Shrimpton, of course, is a national security lawyer.

01:03:37.000 That is Barrister in Government Matters.

01:03:40.000 He's written for the Journal of International Security Affairs.

01:03:45.000 He has given advice and briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

01:03:53.000 That's the U.S. 0.63

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01:03:54.000 He's given speeches and consulted all over Western Europe and the United States.

01:04:00.000 And of course he's been an invited guest of the State Department.

01:04:03.000 So he's a mainstream guy and I was very impressed talking to him.

01:04:06.000 We're about to break for a quick three minute break.

01:04:08.000 Come back and join a bunch of stations that carry news during this segment.

01:04:12.000 And I'll briefly recap who our guest is and we'll go to him.

01:04:16.000 Michael Scrimpton is on the line with us.

01:04:18.000 Again, we're going to break and come back, and he has some bombshell information for you from his sources inside MI5 and MI6.

01:04:26.000 Again, he's a national security lawyer, that is Barrister, who has advised the United States Senate Intelligence Committee.

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01:08:14.000 We're going to have an article this evening on the website.

01:08:22.000 It'll appear first on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:08:27.000 And I want to thank Simon And I want to thank Rowena and I want to thank Paul Watson and all the folks that have been working on this story and for getting us this guest.

01:08:40.000 And again, he's Michael Shrimpton and a national security lawyer or barrister.

01:08:48.000 And he's written for major anti-terrorism journals.

01:08:51.000 He has given his expert advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.

01:08:58.000 Senate.

01:08:59.000 And the bio goes on and on.

01:09:01.000 He's also been involved in a lot of prominent high-profile cases in England.

01:09:05.000 I came across that in my research on him.

01:09:07.000 And he's a really nice fellow.

01:09:09.000 During the break, I was talking to him.

01:09:10.000 I said, you know, I hope you don't end up in the woods like Dr. David Kelly.

01:09:14.000 And he said, well, no, by going public, you protect yourself.

01:09:17.000 And that's the truth.

01:09:19.000 For other government whistleblowers, telling the truth is what protects you.

01:09:22.000 If you covertly leak something, that's what's dangerous.

01:09:25.000 So, he protects himself by going on air, and obviously because of all of his sources, he's a great source for all of us.

01:09:35.000 And Michael, good to have you on the show with us.

01:09:41.000 Good day.

01:09:43.000 Just for folks, Around the world who aren't very familiar with Dr. David Kelly.

01:09:49.000 Hard to believe people aren't.

01:09:50.000 Can you recap who he was, what happened to him, and then from your sources, you even know down to the specifics of how they killed him, and from your sources, who was behind the killing.

01:10:02.000 Can you just go through it for us?

01:10:04.000 Yes, David Kelly was probably the most respected microbiologist in the United Kingdom.

01:10:09.000 Certainly one who specialized in weapons of mass destruction.

01:10:12.000 He was the head of our main WMD laboratory at Portmanteau and Wiltshire.

01:10:17.000 He was very involved in the dismantling, verification of the dismantling of the Soviet WMD programs after the end of the Cold War.

01:10:25.000 He spent some time inside the bad old USSR. 0.79

01:10:31.000 He was the senior British inspector on UNSCOM, the UN mission inside Iraq.

01:10:38.000 He spent some considerable time in Baghdad.

01:10:42.000 He was working very closely with our overseas intelligence service, MI6, or the Secret Intelligence Service, and he was a major, high-value British intelligence asset.

01:10:52.000 He was a good man.

01:10:53.000 Decorated, awarded the CMG, Commander of St.

01:10:57.000 Michael and St.

01:10:58.000 George, highly regarded and well liked too within the British intelligence community and also respected in the United States.

01:11:07.000 And then suddenly, Tony Blair smearing him in the press, and he ends up dead, and the witnesses, according to the London Times and their publications, saw four men in black uniforms standing around him.

01:11:18.000 They run off, and oh, it's a suicide.

01:11:21.000 Go over the whole controversy of... I mean, Dr. David Kelly was a hawk for the war, but he wasn't going to put out false intelligence.

01:11:30.000 Go through that for folks that missed out on it.

01:11:33.000 Well yes, David Kelly briefed in a British BBC journalist called Andrew Gilligan and all suspect to another journalist off of the BBC television's Newsnight programme and he briefed in both journalists along the lines that the case for the WMD case for war with Iraq had been exaggerated.

01:11:52.000 There's a lot of dispute about exactly what was said and what wasn't said.

01:11:56.000 The BBC Today programme, which is the leading radio current affairs programme, led with a story from Andrew Gilligan, which didn't name David Kelly as Andrew's source.

01:12:06.000 Now, we know that David Kelly was, and my own intelligence sources confirmed that before the BBC itself confirmed it on Sunday the 20th of July.

01:12:15.000 David Kelly was outed in the media.

01:12:18.000 Big dispute as to who authorised his name to be given to the media.

01:12:23.000 And he was asked to appear before a committee in the House of Commons.

01:12:27.000 There was a lot of controversy about what the government had been told, how truthful a dossier that they had prepared on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was.

01:12:35.000 And shortly after he gave evidence to the House of Commons, he was found dead on Friday 18th of July of last year.

01:12:42.000 He was found dead.

01:12:43.000 There is a dispute about exactly where he was found.

01:12:46.000 According to the official version of events, he was found dead in a copse or a wood at a place called Harrowdown Hill between the village where he lived and the River Thames.

01:13:00.000 But the forensic tents, it's noticeable, Alex, that the forensic tents that were set up by the local police force, Thames Valley Police, were actually set up in the field.

01:13:09.000 Why you would have someone killed in the woods and have the police tents over the scene of the crime set up in the field, no one has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction.

01:13:19.000 Now, the government were blamed for causing the death, but the way the government were criticised was this.

01:13:29.000 That they had caused his name to be leaked to the media, that had put him under intolerable pressure and he had allegedly committed suicide.

01:13:37.000 The initial media reports all went with suicide and the mainstream media in the UK is still reporting it as a suicide.

01:13:45.000 The government responded very quickly and brought in a law lord, Lord Hutton, who had previously been Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland and the Hutton Inquiry has very recently reported that Lord Hutton Didn't challenge the suicide verdict.

01:14:01.000 There was no cross-examination of witnesses before the Hutton Inquiry as to the cause of death.

01:14:07.000 It was assumed that it was suicide and the BBC were essentially blamed for poor reporting.

01:14:13.000 The government were let off the hook.

01:14:15.000 The Hutton Report, I'm sorry to say, is widely seen as a whitewash, and it's been rubbished.

01:14:19.000 A very senior British intelligence officer recently retired, a lieutenant colonel, Crispin Black, who was on the Defence Intelligence staff until 2002, basically described the report as a laughingstock, and I respectfully agree.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, I've seen major polls where over two-thirds of British people believe it's complete fraud.

01:14:38.000 I mean, obviously, Tony Blair hires one of his cronies to come in and say, oh, you didn't do anything wrong.

01:14:45.000 And then even that's a whitewash of a larger whitewash, because obviously, according to the medical reports, the coroner's report, the doctors that have looked at it, The suicide verdict, that's a fraud itself, and let's go into your sources and what really happened to Dr. David Kelly.

01:15:04.000 Absolutely, although I wouldn't be allowed to say that Tony Blair had hired a judge.

01:15:08.000 You understand that in England we don't hire judges.

01:15:13.000 The judge is on the state payroll anyway, and I wouldn't want to be thought of as suggesting that anybody had put a little extra funds Lord Hutton's way.

01:15:21.000 I'm quite sure Lord Hutton took no extra payment.

01:15:24.000 Well, what I'm saying is that obviously Hutton's been involved in what's been called whitewashes in the past.

01:15:31.000 The report, I'm sorry to say, with respect to Lord Hutton, the report is a complete whitewash.

01:15:36.000 Well, I mean, you have a government institution whitewashing for another government institution.

01:15:42.000 Well, exactly.

01:15:43.000 And this is the problem with appointing senior judges to hold inquiries.

01:15:46.000 There's been a lot of adverse comment in England.

01:15:49.000 The senior judge is, by definition, part of the establishment.

01:15:52.000 It's very difficult.

01:15:53.000 It's very difficult for the judge, of course, because if he whitewashes the government, everybody says, well, it is a whitewash.

01:15:59.000 If he blames the government, well, it's asking too much of a senior judge to go around blaming the government.

01:16:05.000 It's not what senior judges do.

01:16:06.000 I mean, what do you expect?

01:16:08.000 I mean, here we have it where Janet Reno hires somebody to investigate Waco.

01:16:12.000 I mean, she literally appoints the investigator.

01:16:16.000 We have Bush controlling the 9-11 panel. 0.89

01:16:19.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:16:21.000 But getting into the specifics of Dr. David Kelly's clear murder, let's go over that. 0.68

01:16:27.000 Well, absolutely.

01:16:28.000 Now, on Saturday 19th of July, David was murdered on the 17th.

01:16:32.000 On Saturday the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder, I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who had told me he'd been murdered.

01:16:42.000 That didn't take it by surprise.

01:16:44.000 I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go.

01:16:47.000 Now that source told me he'd done some digging and discovered that, he didn't name names, but it discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th of July that David Kelly was going to be taken down.

01:17:00.000 Now, normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate we don't like people knowing in advance.

01:17:05.000 If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide.

01:17:09.000 Yes.

01:17:10.000 I have.

01:17:12.000 Exactly.

01:17:13.000 Now, a lot of work has been done since the murder, and there's been particularly a great deal of medical research.

01:17:21.000 It's absolutely clear that David was murdered.

01:17:23.000 The suicide theory just doesn't hold water at all.

01:17:26.000 The official version of events is that he took some Coproxamol tablets.

01:17:31.000 Now, Coproxamol is available in England only by prescription.

01:17:38.000 There is a problem with that because there is no evidence that David Kelly was ever prescribed Coproxamol.

01:17:44.000 Now, Coproxamol, I think, is available in the United States.

01:17:47.000 It's a combination of dextropropothene and paracetamol in a ratio of 1 to 10.

01:17:54.000 It's not a very powerful painkiller.

01:17:56.000 And the level of Coproxamol in the bloodstream, according to the official toxicology report, was about one-third, i.e.

01:18:03.000 not enough to kill him.

01:18:05.000 Now, 29 tablets were allegedly missing, or were missing, from a packet of Coproxamol found by the body.

01:18:13.000 The problem is that there is only one-fifth of a tablet in the stomach, and there's no evidence of substantial vomiting.

01:18:19.000 There is a little bit of vomit found on the body, but not much, and there's no analysis done of the material.

01:18:26.000 The stomach contents do not support the suggestion that he ingested 29 Caproxamol tablets.

01:18:35.000 Interestingly, the initial media reports, and when we look at staged suicides or political assassinations, I find it very useful to concentrate on the early media reports, because if there is a cover-up, usually the cover-up kicks in after 12, 24, 36 hours.

01:18:53.000 The first media reports are very often the most accurate.

01:18:55.000 Particularly if they're coming from local news organisations.

01:18:59.000 And the early media reports made no mention of a bottle of water.

01:19:05.000 The theory is, Alex, that he took these co-proximal tablets, having set out on a walk in the course of which he was going to commit suicide, and took with him a bottle of water to swallow the tablets.

01:19:18.000 Problem, no mention in early media reports of any bottle of water.

01:19:22.000 That detail was only added in after A group of concerned people in England, professionals, called the Kelly Group, had made the point, and it was already out into the open.

01:19:33.000 Now, the suicide version of it can't be right.

01:19:36.000 He was found with one wrist slashed, and the ulnar artery, which is the artery... Tell you what, we've got a break.

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01:24:11.000 one eight hundred who five nine nine two three one

01:24:15.000 one eight hundred two five nine nine two three one now we're talking to michael shrimpton

01:24:21.000 and he's a national security barrister in england He has given testimony and advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.

01:24:32.000 Senate.

01:24:33.000 And he's obviously very knowledgeable about intelligence and the activities of intelligence agencies.

01:24:39.000 He has a lot of sources in MI5 and MI6.

01:24:42.000 You just heard him talk about one source inside British Intelligence that said they got word that Kelly was about to be killed by the government a week or so before he actually died.

01:24:53.000 I want to go back into that in more detail coming up here in a few minutes.

01:24:59.000 Mr. Shrimpton was then going over the material evidence of the murder, and you've gotten to the point of the slitting of the wrist.

01:25:10.000 Yeah, he clearly didn't slit his own wrist.

01:25:12.000 The idea that he exsanguinated, that he died from hemorrhaging, he bled out from a cut to one wrist only, to the ulnar artery is just nonsense, Alex.

01:25:23.000 Firstly, the artery that was cut was the ulnar artery, which is more difficult to reach.

01:25:28.000 It's on the little finger side of the hand.

01:25:30.000 It's deeper than the radial artery.

01:25:32.000 Why go for an artery deep in the wrist when you can slit an artery much closer to the surface of the skin?

01:25:40.000 That's the first problem.

01:25:41.000 Second problem, he, according to the autopsy report, he severed or transected the artery But once you transect an artery, we have something called vasoconstriction.

01:25:52.000 The artery retracts and that promotes clotting.

01:25:55.000 It's very difficult to bleed out if you sever one artery only.

01:26:00.000 And I would second that with David Halpin, a doctor, a trauma and orthopedic surgeon, as well as Stephen Frost, specialist in diagnostics.

01:26:10.000 I mean, there's a whole bunch of top-level doctors saying this is a complete fraud.

01:26:14.000 Exactly.

01:26:15.000 One doctor went around promoting the official version of Vents and attacked these doctors in the Guardian newspaper in England and talked about slashing wrists.

01:26:22.000 Well, David Kelly on the official version of Vents didn't slash his wrists, plural.

01:26:26.000 He slashed one wrist only.

01:26:28.000 It's highly unusual.

01:26:30.000 Firstly, wrist slashing is not an effective method of committing suicide.

01:26:34.000 One of the reasons people do it in a bath of hot water is that it keeps the temperature high.

01:26:39.000 Yeah, if you're out in the open, if you're not keeping the temperature high, the wrists, the arteries will not stay dilated.

01:26:48.000 It is very difficult indeed to bleed out in the open, even if you split both wrists.

01:26:54.000 Splitting one wrist only, much less blood loss and we have conflicting accounts of the amount of blood found by the body.

01:27:01.000 The most reliable eyewitnesses in my judgment are probably the paramedics who found him and They talk about comparatively little blood loss.

01:27:11.000 There is no solid evidence that a lot of blood had left the body.

01:27:16.000 There were no adequate measurements of the amount of blood left in the major vessels in the heart and so on.

01:27:20.000 Now, talking to you earlier today, it's pretty clear that they drug him up, then as he's dying, slit his wrist to create this scene.

01:27:30.000 From your sources inside the intelligence community, what really happened to Dr. David Kelly?

01:27:35.000 Well, in my judgment, based on conversations with sources and with medical experts, and a great deal of work has been done over this since the murder, he was probably murdered by a combination of an injection, not through tablets, but an intravenous injection of dextropropoxythene and paracetamol, the constituents of coproxamol, and a muscle relaxant called succinylcholine.

01:28:03.000 Succinylcholine is a favourite method of assassinating people.

01:28:06.000 It's used by intelligence agencies, particularly the French DGSE.

01:28:11.000 Succinylcholine, although it's used therapeutically for treating, facilitating intubation and so on, can be lethal.

01:28:20.000 And in combination with the constituents of coproxamol, 30mg would probably have been a lethal dose.

01:28:28.000 The problem for someone investigating an assassination by succinylcholine is that it metabolizes even after death.

01:28:37.000 And you only pick up the metabolites.

01:28:39.000 In other words, it's one of those drugs that leaves no trace, unless you have a very expert pathologist who really knows what he or she is doing.

01:28:47.000 Now, all you can find is what it metabolizes into.

01:28:51.000 You cannot find the original chemical.

01:28:53.000 Exactly.

01:28:54.000 So you have to look for the enzymes it metabolizes into.

01:28:58.000 You won't find any trace of the original drug.

01:29:00.000 Well, it's like with AIDS.

01:29:01.000 You look for the antibodies, because you can't find the virus.

01:29:06.000 Well, very effectively, yes.

01:29:07.000 And it's fairly clear that the slash to the wrist was done to disguise the puncture wound.

01:29:13.000 There's no puncture wound, but of course the slash to the wrist would have disguised it.

01:29:17.000 Now, the palmar face, or the palmar face of the wrist, effectively the inside face of the wrist, is a very popular method.

01:29:25.000 You know, kinesiologists would use it to inject.

01:29:28.000 It's quite realistic to suppose that David Kelley was injected in the wrist with the muscle relaxant and the dextrofiproxafene and the... Tell you what, we've got a break again.

01:29:38.000 We'll come back and get into your sources and take some calls.

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01:33:04.000 Folks, this is very, very important.

01:33:08.000 Because Tony Blair is a minion of the globalists.

01:33:12.000 He's the tool who's trying to destroy British national sovereignty.

01:33:17.000 To bring the British people under the dominance of the unelected, unaccountable European Union, whether they like it or not.

01:33:25.000 He's been promised the EU headship under a new, expanded, empowered EU, if he can get Britain into it.

01:33:35.000 He lied about the weapons of mass destruction.

01:33:38.000 It's clear that if Tony Blair was to have been exposed, that would certainly hurt those in Europe that want to get rid of British sovereignty.

01:33:49.000 And talking to Michael Shrimpton, our guest, our intelligence expert, who has his sources over there in England, talking to you earlier before the show, you talked about your sources, the evidence you have that It looks like that it was elements of British intelligence or of the government using French intelligence to go and do their dirty work, which by the way is a standard operation.

01:34:18.000 If intelligence agencies are getting rid of some of their own people, they will generally use a sister agency in a sister country.

01:34:27.000 I know this is very delicate, Michael, but can you go over what you talked to me off-air about?

01:34:34.000 Yes, Alex.

01:34:35.000 Firstly, I should make it clear, I have absolutely no indication that anybody in either of the British intelligence agencies, MI5, the Security Service, or MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, is being involved.

01:34:45.000 On the contrary, my sources are telling me that both services are extremely unhappy.

01:34:51.000 Now, the indications are, and you understand I'm being cautious aren't I, There are indications pointing towards an involvement by the French External Intelligence Agency, the DGSE, or Direction Générale de la Sécurité Exterieure.

01:35:04.000 But obviously they've got a liaison within the government, the British government.

01:35:07.000 They've got to have someone authorizing this.

01:35:10.000 Are you saying it's just a rogue element wanting to get rid of somebody who could mess up the EU?

01:35:14.000 No, again, I've got to be obviously careful on air, but the indications are that the tasking for the assassination came from within the UK.

01:35:25.000 But I can't name any individual official or minister.

01:35:29.000 The taskings generated in the UK went to Paris, was then okayed in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for this assassination was DGSE.

01:35:41.000 Now, there are also indications, and I'm, again, obviously Alex, you appreciate I'm expressing myself with caution here, There are indications that DGSE, in order to false flag the assassination should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Muqabirat Agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad.

01:36:05.000 And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team That's today, an ex-Muqabirat team recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Muqabirat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly.

01:36:24.000 Now the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out and I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive.

01:36:34.000 It would be highly unusual for the French to permit anyone involved in the assassination for them to Well, we've seen this in the past.

01:36:43.000 You've had the big controversy that BBC's reported on about British intelligence using Al-Qaeda individuals to try to kill Muammar Gaddafi.

01:36:54.000 I mean, this is a classic deal.

01:36:56.000 Of course, the Iraqis were allies during the 80s, and so a lot of these guys were trained in the US, trained in England, trained in France, and then bringing these assets back in.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, that was a mess.

01:37:10.000 We could spend another hour on that, Alex.

01:37:13.000 Whoever authorised that operation did not know what they were doing.

01:37:17.000 That was just a total shambles.

01:37:19.000 I mean, wouldn't these Iraqis know that they were doing this hit, that they were going to be in deep trouble afterwards, or were they told, you don't have a choice?

01:37:28.000 Not necessarily.

01:37:28.000 They may not have worked for French Intelligence before.

01:37:31.000 If you were offered a job by French Intelligence, I would turn it down.

01:37:37.000 Anybody approached by French Intelligence to do a hit, I would strongly advise them to turn it down or increase their life insurance.

01:37:45.000 They were probably, assuming it was Iraqis, and I can't be positive.

01:37:51.000 There are indications pointing towards an Iraqi involvement.

01:37:53.000 I can't be positive about DGSE.

01:37:56.000 I have a range of sources, as you've said, and those sources point to Paris, and they point towards DGSE.

01:38:05.000 Now, DGSE is the equivalent of an MI6.

01:38:08.000 It's outward.

01:38:09.000 DGSU is internal.

01:38:10.000 It's the DST, Direction du Surveillance de la Territoire, which is the internal agency.

01:38:18.000 And the DST are internal, DGSE are external.

01:38:22.000 Let's just put it this way, Alex.

01:38:23.000 The operation has all the hallmarks of DGSE and British Intelligence, on my sources, are furious.

01:38:31.000 They're not happy at all because David, after all, was a British Intelligence asset.

01:38:35.000 Well, by the way, my webmaster, Paul Watson, has talked to a major British news reporter who has talked directly to British intelligence, and they said months ago, I'm talking six months ago, the same thing that you just said here.

01:38:50.000 Oh, that is interesting, because that would be almost certainly a different source to mine.

01:38:56.000 It might be, we're talking to the same people.

01:38:58.000 One of the problems in the intelligence world is loopback.

01:39:01.000 Something you think is independent confirmation may turn out to be... No, I understand, but I mean clearly from the circumstantial, from the material evidence, you've got murder, you've got a cover-up, you've got a spin, you've got a motive.

01:39:14.000 You've got him telling the US doctor, his colleague, if I don't shut up, I'm going to be found dead in the woods, they're going to kill me.

01:39:20.000 I mean, this is all public now. 0.87

01:39:23.000 We have him saying, they're going to kill me and put me in the woods.

01:39:26.000 You said that you've talked to intelligence people who said, yeah, they knew that Kelly was about to get it before he even died.

01:39:32.000 Can you elaborate on that?

01:39:33.000 Yeah, the source that spoke to me on 19th July, after the assassination, because you see, this source was a friend of David Kelly's.

01:39:43.000 And so David was a friend of a friend.

01:39:46.000 And this source obviously was not very happy.

01:39:47.000 It didn't take him five minutes to work out that this was murder, not suicide.

01:39:51.000 He then made inquiries, and he established from other sources that the murder was known about in advance, i.e.

01:39:59.000 the death of David Kelly was known about within a section of Whitehall prior to the 17th of July.

01:40:07.000 And he was very unhappy.

01:40:09.000 And that source came through to me and effectively I'm acting as an interface between the media and the intelligence community.

01:40:15.000 It is not possible for the intelligence community to do what I'm doing now and go on to a radio show.

01:40:23.000 Well, you have an impeccable record, and you've been involved in a lot of high-profile cases.

01:40:27.000 You've testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for our Senate here, and you write for major intelligence journals.

01:40:34.000 You've certainly impressed me, Mr. Shrimpton, because I study this stuff continually, and you're just massively knowledgeable, more knowledgeable in many areas than I am.

01:40:43.000 I should correct.

01:40:45.000 I didn't testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

01:40:48.000 The briefing I gave was a closed Well, I understand.

01:40:52.000 That's what I meant.

01:40:55.000 I have, in fact, had the privilege of meeting Senator Graham when he was chairman, just briefly.

01:41:00.000 Senator Graham may not even recall the meeting.

01:41:01.000 We met very briefly when I have to be in Congress on another matter.

01:41:04.000 Very nice, ma'am.

01:41:05.000 Well, just to be clear, sir, I know when you guys testify, it's always public.

01:41:09.000 Here, most of what they do, obviously, you know, is behind doors.

01:41:12.000 That's what I mean.

01:41:13.000 Exactly.

01:41:13.000 This was with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

01:41:16.000 I was invited into their operation.

01:41:19.000 They're very nice people.

01:41:20.000 Absolutely.

01:41:20.000 Now, I was just going over some of your bio for folks.

01:41:23.000 been involved uh... which bobby i can't discuss on on the air today

01:41:26.000 catheter they got the guy from gilbert read it very very nice people

01:41:30.000 absolutely now i was just going over some of your bio for folks

01:41:36.000 as we sit here looking at this for those who don't understand why

01:41:40.000 why a element inside england would want to use someone outside england who would then

01:41:48.000 eat who would then use another membrane between them and they

01:41:51.000 get man That's just standard operating procedure.

01:41:54.000 But why would the French be happy to go along with getting rid of Kelly? 0.98

01:41:58.000 Well, it would depend on the French assessment of whether or not the government would be at risk.

01:42:04.000 The French would definitely want Tony Blair's government to remain in office.

01:42:09.000 They would be very concerned, indeed, at any suggestion that might risk the government.

01:42:14.000 That's a very strong geopolitical motive for the French retaining their ally.

01:42:19.000 Don't forget that the Blair government is a close ally of President Chirac.

01:42:23.000 There have been a series of private meetings between Prime Minister Blair and President Chirac since the end of the day.

01:42:28.000 And they're pushing the Euro, so they believe that if Blair's in danger, the Euro's in danger.

01:42:32.000 Well, exactly.

01:42:33.000 Tony Blair is the most high-profile politician in the UK committed to destroying the national currency.

01:42:38.000 And the French very much want Blair to remain in office for geopolitical reasons, and we've just had a very unusual summit between Blair, Chirac, and the German Chancellor Schroeder.

01:42:48.000 I have to be very cautious.

01:42:50.000 I'm not naming Tony Blair as the person who generated the tasking for the assassination.

01:42:54.000 Indeed, I am quite comfortable that it wasn't Tony Blair who put the tasking into Paris.

01:43:02.000 Now, question marks, what did he know, and when did he know it, that there are You know, I can't be so confident.

01:43:09.000 Well, obviously Tony Blair's a puppet.

01:43:11.000 I mean, he's not running the entire mechanism of the government, so... Well, he's a puppet Prime Minister anyways.

01:43:19.000 He's committed to the European Union.

01:43:20.000 I mean, he takes his orders... Like anyone who says we should be in the European Union, you take your orders from Brussels, because that's what the government from Brussels involves.

01:43:28.000 That's the constitutional position.

01:43:28.000 Exactly so.

01:43:30.000 You know, European Community Law is...

01:43:33.000 Supreme, according to the European Union, and it takes precedence over British law. 0.98

01:43:37.000 Yeah, your Magna Carta's gone if that sucker asks. 0.97

01:43:42.000 They're tough these days, Alex. 0.98

01:43:44.000 But that's a broader issue.

01:43:46.000 You're right, incidentally, on the false flagging.

01:43:51.000 I'm often called upon, formally or informally, usually informally, to deconstruct assassinations, to look at a particular assassination and try and work out what's happened.

01:44:01.000 Basically, in counter-intelligence work, we would normally recognise eight methods of trying to disguise an assassination.

01:44:08.000 The first method is you would try and blame it on your political opponents.

01:44:13.000 That was done in Sweden recently with the assassination of Anna Lindh, the very nice Swedish Foreign Minister.

01:44:17.000 An attempt was made to blame that on opponents of Sweden joining the Europe.

01:44:23.000 You can blame it on a terrorist organisation.

01:44:24.000 That was done particularly with the IRA in the attempted assassination of Margaret Thatcher.

01:44:28.000 The assassination of the war hero Airey Neve, a Conservative MP, was blamed on the Irish National Liberation Army.

01:44:35.000 The terrorist organisation might carry out the assassination, but in almost every case, the terrorist organisation is working for a government.

01:44:44.000 A third method of disguising assassinations, Alex, in my experience, is to false flag them.

01:44:48.000 Where it's blamed on another agency.

01:44:51.000 Now there are elements of false flagging in the Kelly assassination, because had the team which carried out the assassination been discovered, clearly it could have been false flagged via Baghdad and, you know, we'd have had three Iraqis in Oxfordshire, assuming it was Iraqis for the sake of argument, and obviously blame would then go to Baghdad and Paris would be off the hook.

01:45:12.000 The Iranians tried that quite successfully with the attempted assassination of the Pope. 1.00

01:45:17.000 back in the early 1980s. Then you have the lone gunman theory. Now you guys are very familiar with that because

01:45:23.000 you'll recall that somebody tried to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination of President John L. Kennedy.

01:45:28.000 An amusing suggestion to those of us who know a little bit more about that assassination than is in the public domain.

01:45:33.000 We've had a lone gunman, a classic example of a lone gunman assassination theory in Europe, with the assassination of

01:45:40.000 the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, which was blamed on a lone gunman.

01:45:45.000 and and

01:45:47.000 An explanation which doesn't carry much weight with me, since in the photographs of the assassin that I saw, there was what appeared to me to be a very thin wire leading up to an earpiece in his right ear, and normally Alex lone gunmen don't run around with radios and earpieces.

01:46:02.000 Particularly high-tech ones.

01:46:04.000 Well, it was the same thing with Yishak Rabin.

01:46:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:08.000 I mean, Netanyahu's giving speeches about somebody ought to get rid of this guy, and then Rabin's security steps back and they blow him away.

01:46:17.000 Well, there are certainly those, certainly respected commentators, who would say that the Rabin assassination was definitely not down to a lone gunman.

01:46:29.000 Then you've got illness.

01:46:30.000 Now, this is fairly rare.

01:46:31.000 It's difficult to fake an illness.

01:46:33.000 He was down in the case of a British politician, Hugh Gaitskell, who was opposed to Britain joining the European Economic Community, and he came down with a tropical disease in Moscow in the middle of winter, generally speaking.

01:46:43.000 He was spotted at the time as an assassination, but MI5, although they brought in Porton Down, where David Kelly worked, incidentally, Port and Dan were brought in, but Port and Dan couldn't work out how the disease which got Hugh Gaitskell, which is lupus disseminata, it's a very nasty disease indeed, it attacks the organs very similar to Ebola, how this tropical disease had found its way to Moscow, they couldn't work out how, what the agent was for getting the lupus into Hugh Gaitskell.

01:47:11.000 We now know it was probably aerosol, but at the time that technology wasn't known about in England.

01:47:16.000 Then you've got accident, and there are a couple of interesting political assassinations in Zimbabwe of rape Road accidents, which I would put a question mark against.

01:47:26.000 It's less common to try and stage accidents, but it's not unknown.

01:47:30.000 A friend of mine was nearly taken out in Argentina a few years ago in what looked to me to be a slightly dubious... Well, what about Princess Diana?

01:47:36.000 She says, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a staged automobile accident and then she dies.

01:47:42.000 Well, the Diana assassination is certainly probably the classic recent example of trying to make it look like an accident.

01:47:48.000 We've been having all these microbiologists in government weapons programs walking down the street of the university and a van jumps the rail, chases them, runs them over, then backs back over them, drives back over them, and the police just go, an accident, a hit and run.

01:48:04.000 well i think if you want the truth of an assassination the best people talk to

01:48:06.000 the Israelis because uh... they had uh... daddy a comic book not a lot of

01:48:10.000 the guy by the way uh... who's been headed beside in ninety seven

01:48:13.000 the really nice people uh... danny had uh... teams i think on the entrance to the

01:48:17.000 alma tunnel and on the exit as well interesting interesting that love each

01:48:21.000 other tunnels where

01:48:22.000 but this is the alma tunnel where diana was uh... all that she had

01:48:26.000 the uh...

01:48:27.000 at that the seventh method of disguising assassinations in my experience is

01:48:31.000 to try and use a naturally occurring poison uh... uh... the favorite intelligence agencies is taxa toxin

01:48:37.000 which occurs in selfish so it's possible providing get some shelf

01:48:41.000 so selfish into the stomach of the victim uh... as taxa toxin uh... assassination providing you

01:48:47.000 successfully disguise the puncture wound uh... we find a method of getting the

01:48:52.000 the poison into the body You know, you can get away with that if you're lucky.

01:48:57.000 And then the final method is the one tried in the case of David Kelly, that you try and make the murder look like suicide, But it's very difficult.

01:49:04.000 In this case, the attempt to slash the wrist was pointless, because he was already dead, and there's not enough blood.

01:49:12.000 None of the witnesses, in my judgment, reports enough blood consistent with him bleeding out.

01:49:17.000 And the medical experts that we've talked to, and that have been insisting on this, the medical experts generally reckon that he would be looking for five pints, that's English pints, of blood.

01:49:30.000 There's nothing I've seen that persuades me that more than a pint was lost and that's about consistent with what you'd expect from transecting one ulnar artery, completely transecting it.

01:49:41.000 It then retracts clots and you get surprisingly little bleeding from cutting your ulnar artery.

01:49:48.000 Well, sir, can we keep you a little bit in the next hour?

01:49:52.000 Because I want to come back and go to Pat and Jim and Lenny and others that have been patiently holding.

01:49:58.000 I'd be delighted to talk to you.

01:49:59.000 I didn't realize.

01:50:00.000 I'm sorry.

01:50:00.000 I've been talking on and I've been keeping people on the phone.

01:50:02.000 I apologize.

01:50:04.000 This is important information because this shows the type of things that are going on in our world.

01:50:10.000 Yeah.

01:50:10.000 And how the media tries to spin this, but why do you think the media have been so willing to go along with the official government story that it's a suicide?

01:50:19.000 Well, the political consequences.

01:50:20.000 The mainstream media in the UK are largely committed to UK membership of the European Union, and my guess is that most of the newspapers in the UK would be worried about the political consequences of going public with any story suggesting David Kelly was assassinated.

01:50:34.000 And then you've got technical competence.

01:50:36.000 There aren't that many good investigative journalists in the UK, and it's not that difficult to get the mainstream media to buy an official version of events.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, it's easy.

01:50:48.000 Just, you know, the Fed says this.

01:50:50.000 Just write it and go drink a beer.

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01:54:00.000 alex jones on the gc and radio network We're back live here and we're about to go to your calls.

01:54:12.000 Everybody's been holding patiently for our guest.

01:54:15.000 Going back to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England.

01:54:21.000 Michael?

01:54:22.000 Yeah?

01:54:24.000 Continuing with what we were discussing and just briefly recapping, you have a source Who in intelligence talked to his other sources and it was widely known in intelligence that there was an order to get rid of Kelly even before he died.

01:54:42.000 My source learnt after the assassination that others in Whitehall were aware of the assassination in advance.

01:54:52.000 Yes.

01:54:53.000 And that source had spoken to, obviously he was a friend of David Kelly's, knew him well, had worked with him, and clearly once his friend was found dead in a wood, made investigations, and when he made investigations, he discovered that this assassination was known about in advance.

01:55:10.000 And he told, and this was in the Associated Press, BBC, you name it, he told an American doctor who was on the team with him in Iraq, he said, if I don't shut up about this, I'm going to end up dead in the woods.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, there was also an interesting conversation with David Brucher, who was formerly a British ambassador in Prague in the Czech Republic, along similar lines.

01:55:31.000 And David Brucher, I think, was a witness, in fact, to that inquiry.

01:55:38.000 David Kelly worked... I never had the privilege of meeting him.

01:55:42.000 I'd love to have met him.

01:55:43.000 My friend certainly worked with him and knew him.

01:55:46.000 David worked very closely with the United States intelligence and worked very closely with Sergeant Mike Pedersen in particular, but I get the impression he was very highly thought of in the U.S.

01:55:58.000 intelligence community as well.

01:56:00.000 Was this done by the pro-EU crowd, the globalists I would call them, to put out a chilling effect into everybody in intelligence to keep your mouths shut?

01:56:12.000 Broadly speaking, yes.

01:56:16.000 Another question altogether.

01:56:17.000 It's tolerably clear, one can't be certain, tolerably clear that he was taken out in order to prevent him talking.

01:56:26.000 Now, what is unclear is whether he was taken out because there was concern he was about to acquire intelligence that might be highly damaging, or taken out because he had acquired it and was about to talk to the media.

01:56:37.000 We know there was concern about the extent of his media contacts.

01:56:42.000 He was also a microbiologist, and there's been a whole bunch of those dying around the world.

01:56:46.000 Let's take a call.

01:56:49.000 Pat in Indiana, thanks for holding her on the air with our guests. 0.95

01:56:51.000 Go ahead.

01:56:52.000 Yes, well, this is a little off the subject, but it has to do with... Ma'am, you don't have your radio on, do you?

01:57:00.000 Yeah, he's... Or a speakerphone or something, because I'm not going to be able to talk to you if you don't turn it on.

01:57:05.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:57:05.000 Okay, he did.

01:57:06.000 Okay, it's on a couple subjects.

01:57:08.000 I'm going to have to go ahead and put her on hold.

01:57:11.000 I'm sorry, ma'am, but something's wrong with your phone, or you've got your radio on.

01:57:16.000 Let's try to bring her back up one more time, and I'm going to have to let her go. 1.00

01:57:19.000 Pat, go ahead.

01:57:21.000 This is on a couple of subjects.

01:57:23.000 I don't know what's wrong because we turned our radio off.

01:57:25.000 Okay, it's alright.

01:57:26.000 Okay, this is on a couple of subjects.

01:57:26.000 Go ahead.

01:57:30.000 One from Earlham College and one from a town hall meeting I had with Mike Pence.

01:57:35.000 Man, is this concerning our guest?

01:57:35.000 On Friday.

01:57:37.000 No.

01:57:38.000 Okay, because you told us that you wanted to talk to our guest.

01:57:40.000 I'm going to have to put you on hold.

01:57:41.000 Nice to talk to you anyway, Pat.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, nice to talk to you.

01:57:44.000 You know, we're about to break and start the next hour, and then we'll sort out what's

01:57:48.000 going on with the calls, and we'll get to them.

01:57:52.000 I know there's a whole bunch of calls here for you.

01:57:55.000 We'll try to sort them out and find out what's going on as we talk to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, and national intelligence barrister in England.

01:58:06.000 I bet you see all kinds of just amazing stuff in your job.

01:58:10.000 I do, yes.

01:58:12.000 Not all that I can talk about on the air.

01:58:14.000 And I meet some very interesting people.

01:58:16.000 And I had a very, very interesting visit to Israel in the middle of last year looking at the new security fence being built.

01:58:22.000 All right, well, I hear the music, so that means we've got to go ahead and break.

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02:00:07.000 Alright, my friends, down to the third hour.

02:00:11.000 Talking to Michael Shrimpton, National Security Barrister in England with his intelligence sources concerning the murder of Dr. David Kelly.

02:00:21.000 And British people are very suspicious, as are many other folks around the world.

02:00:31.000 And more and more is coming out.

02:00:33.000 Let's go ahead and go to Jim in Illinois.

02:00:36.000 Jim, thanks for holding.

02:00:37.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:00:38.000 Go ahead.

02:00:39.000 I have two quick questions.

02:00:41.000 Mrs. Shrimpton, what is Davis Kelley's wife saying about his murder?

02:00:47.000 Janice Kelley, hi Jim, Janice Kelley accepts that it was suicide, at least that's her official position.

02:00:56.000 And my next question, why didn't the British or the American or the Israeli intelligence assassinate Saddam Hussein before the war?

02:01:06.000 Well, that's a big question, probably better directed to intelligence officials.

02:01:12.000 Assassination is a very... I mean, I'm opposed to assassinations in principle, one of the reasons why I'm outraged by David Kelly's assassination.

02:01:19.000 Assassination is a double-edged sword, and I think had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein, that would have rebounded on both Britain and America very quickly. 0.63

02:01:29.000 So I think the call not to assassinate him was That was probably well made.

02:01:34.000 It's also more difficult to assassinate politicians like Saddam Hussein than first appears.

02:01:39.000 You remember the CIA's farcical efforts to try and get rid of Fidel Castro.

02:01:45.000 They had to go for several years and they didn't get anywhere close to assassinating him with exploding cigars and what have you.

02:01:53.000 I would say the call not to take Saddam Hussein out was right. 1.00

02:01:57.000 The danger with assassinating somebody like Saddam Hussein, you build up inside Iraq popular support for his regime. 0.72

02:02:03.000 Yeah, you turn him into a martyr and also it'll cause a revolution even before you get there and then you won't control kind of the way the balls break. 0.92

02:02:13.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:14.000 That's a really good question.

02:02:15.000 Anything else, Jim?

02:02:17.000 No, thank you.

02:02:18.000 Great to talk to you, Jim.

02:02:18.000 I've got a question.

02:02:19.000 Where is this going?

02:02:22.000 I've got a question for you, Michael.

02:02:24.000 Where is all this going?

02:02:25.000 As more and more doctors and people come forward, and as you come forward and say it's clear that he was murdered, I mean, where does all this go for Tony Blair?

02:02:34.000 Well, there are indications that he may be preparing to resign.

02:02:39.000 He's denied officially over the weekend that he's planning to resign, which is an indication that he is.

02:02:44.000 Never believe anything until it's officially denied.

02:02:48.000 A number of key advisors have bailed out.

02:02:50.000 Alastair Campbell, another key advisor, Philip Gould, has just been offered a peerage, which is a form of retirement we have in England that you don't have in the United States.

02:02:58.000 Michael Meacher, months ago.

02:02:59.000 Michael Meacher, yes.

02:03:01.000 There are now calls.

02:03:02.000 Michael Meacher has issued a call.

02:03:03.000 He's a former government minister.

02:03:07.000 Michael has issued a call over the last weekend, calling on him to go.

02:03:11.000 There are indications that he is on his way out, but it's up to him.

02:03:17.000 Or after his party.

02:03:18.000 Well, that would certainly be good.

02:03:19.000 I mean, have you ever had a Prime Minister this bad?

02:03:23.000 Well, that's a political question.

02:03:26.000 The answer is probably, but I can't remember when.

02:03:29.000 It's a close toss-up between Tony Blair, John Major and Lord North, who lost the American colonies.

02:03:36.000 But from your point of view, Lord North is probably quite good to have in Downing Street.

02:03:42.000 That's funny!

02:03:43.000 Neville Chamberlain, I think that without being disrespectful to my Prime Minister on the air, I think it's a close call between Tony Blair and Neville Chamberlain.

02:03:56.000 You could have ten different politicians and economists and military strategists sit around a table and come up with ten different answers as to whether Neville Chamberlain surrendered more of Europe than Tony Blair, and whether Tony Blair surrendered more to France and Germany than Neville Chamberlain did.

02:04:11.000 It's a close-run thing.

02:04:12.000 Well, I think it's clearly Tony Blair if he gets what he wants.

02:04:16.000 Yeah, I have to say, having met Tony Blake, he's quite a pleasant, personable individual.

02:04:24.000 He's not a monster when you meet him.

02:04:26.000 Well, they said that about Adolf Hitler, too.

02:04:29.000 You know, we've got a break.

02:04:31.000 We'll come right back and we'll go to Lenny Bloom, who's been on this story, and we'll also talk to David in Texas and a few other callers for our guests, and we'll get to Bob and Ron and others and a bunch of other key news items.

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02:07:56.000 Just an absolutely amazing and riveting interview of the last hour and eight minutes with our guest, a national security barrister, a lawyer, uh... who has uh...

02:08:16.000 you know consulted uh... with the senate select committee on intelligence here in

02:08:19.000 the u s and and given speeches and uh... consulted around the world and

02:08:24.000 our rights were major terrorism journals going over well just a lot of uh... interesting facts for us like

02:08:31.000 usually you've got some type of terrorist assassination

02:08:34.000 terrorist killing people are usually a government behind amusing them as a go

02:08:38.000 Oh, we've discovered that here in our research too, and going over the evidence of how Dr. David Kelly was killed, and the elements inside governments that did it, and why.

02:08:50.000 Let's take a few calls.

02:08:51.000 We'll go to David and Ian and a few others here in a few minutes.

02:08:55.000 But right now, let's go to Lenny Bloom, who's been a guest on this show before and has a website, cloakedanddagger.com.

02:09:01.000 I know last week they got some rumblings of this story and put it out.

02:09:07.000 And Lenny, what's on your mind?

02:09:09.000 Well, welcome.

02:09:10.000 Thanks for having me back, Alex.

02:09:12.000 You're doing a tremendous yeoman service job.

02:09:15.000 You know, the pilots who fly these assassination teams around the world don't have a public responsibility to tell the truth, or tell people.

02:09:27.000 But the media has a core responsibility.

02:09:30.000 There's so many people involved that I've known and been a part of as a spy pilot over the years.

02:09:41.000 This thing with Dr. Kelly is something that's interesting.

02:09:44.000 Ever since the Duke of Edinburgh said he wanted to become a deadly virus and come back and be reincarnated, we have kept the biochemical doctors deathless for good reason.

02:09:58.000 The Duke doesn't want to be suspected or blamed for his actions.

02:10:03.000 It's really interesting and clear what's going on here.

02:10:06.000 Right in front of everybody's nose.

02:10:09.000 Okay, Lenny, do you have any questions or comments for our guest?

02:10:12.000 Yeah, I just want to say thanks for coming out.

02:10:15.000 I think it's great that you're starting to dig into the whole thing.

02:10:19.000 I think Kelly was number 50 on the death list.

02:10:24.000 Let me ask our guest that.

02:10:29.000 Are you familiar, sir, that there's been all over the Western world, Australia, Russia, Western Europe, England, the U.S., top bioweapons scientists being murdered?

02:10:40.000 And Kelly, just so happen to be one more on that list. 0.93

02:10:44.000 Well, I'm aware of an unusually high percentage of microbiologists going south, and, put it this way, it's attracted my interest.

02:10:54.000 I think David Kelly wasn't taken out as part of a systematic campaign to take out WMD scientists. 0.60

02:11:01.000 I didn't say that.

02:11:04.000 I agree, I didn't say that.

02:11:05.000 He's part of a death list though, and there may be different reasons for it.

02:11:10.000 Hi Lenny, good to hear from you.

02:11:11.000 You mentioned you're a spy pilot.

02:11:12.000 What planes do you fly?

02:11:14.000 Well, I'm rather grounded right now.

02:11:17.000 What did you use to fly?

02:11:18.000 I flew everything from F-18s to F-14s to Cessna 172s to Bell 206s and my student became Air Force One helicopter for ten years and he's a three-star general.

02:11:32.000 I wish I could introduce you to a client of mine.

02:11:34.000 He once flew an airplane called the Lockheed U-2A.

02:11:37.000 Over the Soviet Union, with a guy called Gary Powers.

02:11:40.000 Wow.

02:11:41.000 Yeah.

02:11:41.000 Okay, well, thanks for the call, Lenny, I appreciate that, and thanks for all your work.

02:11:45.000 Great to talk to you, Lenny.

02:11:46.000 Yeah, let's talk to David in Texas.

02:11:48.000 David, you're on the air.

02:11:49.000 Go ahead.

02:11:50.000 Hello, sir.

02:11:51.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:11:53.000 Hi, thank you for taking my call.

02:11:56.000 I have a quick question on the media.

02:11:59.000 I know that you're involved in intelligence, but in our country, we don't see a lot of programming from Tel Aviv and Palestinian television.

02:12:07.000 And I know they present a very, you know, I don't know, ethical code of the FONTOIS and things of that such.

02:12:18.000 And we don't quite kill a lot of that, and I'm curious.

02:12:20.000 Okay, I don't understand exactly what you're saying.

02:12:23.000 Boil it down for us.

02:12:25.000 Well, the promotion of, you know, Dying for Allah is a shown thing on TV in Tel Aviv, and the media doesn't really focus on that here in the United States.

02:12:36.000 I'm wondering what your view is on that, and do you see that in Europe?

02:12:40.000 I'll go ahead and listen.

02:12:42.000 thank you. Okay, David, always a pleasure to talk to somebody from, whereabouts in Texas are you from? I believe

02:12:48.000 he's gone.

02:12:49.000 Oh, he's gone?

02:12:50.000 Well, let me answer his question as a courtesy to him.

02:12:53.000 I'm not very impressed with media coverage of the Middle East generally.

02:12:55.000 I do subscribe to a very interesting service called Memory, the Middle East Media Research Institute, and some of the stuff they come up with on what is broadcast on mainstream media in Egypt and Saudi Arabia concerning Israel is just shocking.

02:13:11.000 It's like the 1930s all over again.

02:13:14.000 Very, very disturbing stuff.

02:13:17.000 I'm not very impressed with mainstream coverage of the Middle East and that's partly why I went to Israel in June, a little fact-finding tour.

02:13:26.000 You were there with the IDF on the ground, what did you learn?

02:13:29.000 Well, I was very impressed with the way the IDF ran checkpoints.

02:13:32.000 I talked to the checkpoint commander in Janine, for example.

02:13:35.000 Very impressed with what I saw.

02:13:36.000 Very impressed with the security fence, which is clearly having an impact in those sectors of the West Bank, where it's been erected.

02:13:43.000 Well, I know this.

02:13:44.000 We sure need one of those on the southern border of the U.S.

02:13:49.000 And I want one, that thing's beautiful!

02:13:51.000 Well, I think your southern border is a bit porous, and as we've seen on 9-11, porous borders can present dangers.

02:13:59.000 Well I'm not kidding, I've literally seen photos of that thing and I start salivating on it.

02:14:04.000 Because just the raping and killing and robbery of Mexican troops and killing federal officers, and our news doesn't even report on it. 0.95

02:14:12.000 I mean, it is bedlam on our southern border.

02:14:15.000 Your southern border is not particularly well protected with respect to the guys and girls who are down there protecting it, but they need more resources.

02:14:25.000 Back to the IDF, I'm sorry for interrupting.

02:14:27.000 Well, I'm a big fan of the IDF.

02:14:29.000 I was very impressed meeting and talking with, you know, from soldiers up to generals.

02:14:37.000 I think the IDF are doing a good job.

02:14:38.000 I think the Israelis know far more about counter-terrorism than we do in Britain or in the United States.

02:14:44.000 My general line with Israel is I think we in the West, the rest of the West, Israel is part of the West, we need to get off the Israelis' back and let them go and do the job. 1.00

02:14:53.000 They do know what they're doing.

02:14:56.000 Well, certainly they know how to build a fence, and I wish we had one of those.

02:15:01.000 The fence is very impressive.

02:15:02.000 It's more than a fence, of course.

02:15:04.000 You've got a ditch, you've got a roadway that allows regular patrolling, easy access to any terrorist incursion, good surveillance, some good high-tech stuff there.

02:15:15.000 The security barriers is a very impressive development.

02:15:20.000 Yeah.

02:15:21.000 Let's go ahead now.

02:15:23.000 Who's up next in line here, Stephanie? 1.00

02:15:26.000 Ian and Canada, you're on the air with our guest.

02:15:28.000 Go ahead.

02:15:29.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:15:30.000 I wanted to ask your guest, I wanted to explore the occultic implications of David Kelly's death.

02:15:36.000 And by illustration, I'm going to refer to a case that he may be familiar with, Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley.

02:15:43.000 They tried to take him out like Diana with rigged brakes on his BMW in the mid-80s, just between Amesbury Circle and Stonehenge, about 660 yards.

02:15:54.000 Um, if you can believe it, into his drive west along the motorway.

02:15:59.000 There was that occultic association.

02:16:02.000 And what I'm wondering is because David Kelly, you reported, probably died on July 17th, which is right in the middle of that high holiday they celebrate at Bohemian Grove, Alex.

02:16:16.000 Let me bring this up to him.

02:16:17.000 I don't know if he's aware of it, but Skull and Bones, admittedly a weird occult organization, Bohemian Grove, I snuck into it.

02:16:24.000 That was on national British television.

02:16:26.000 The footage I shot a few years ago, it's also aired here.

02:16:28.000 In some of these killings, they do seem to do it in a ritualistic fashion.

02:16:35.000 That was brought up with Princess Diana.

02:16:36.000 Do you want to get into that?

02:16:37.000 No, I don't see uh... respect in canada i i don't know whether to get a job

02:16:43.000 at the great country

02:16:44.000 uh... i'd i don't see any occult uh... relationship with the kelly assassination at all i'm

02:16:50.000 not i'm not familiar with that it may speed or may not i'm not familiar

02:16:55.000 with that was that an attempted assassination uh... he claims that he was being used

02:17:00.000 to take somebody else out but they rigged his bmw and i believe he was the target

02:17:05.000 But see, here's the problem.

02:17:06.000 We have all this other stuff in that we can't prove, Ian.

02:17:10.000 Then when the news goes and listens to this interview, it's, you know, discussions of, you know, things we can't prove.

02:17:15.000 That's the problem.

02:17:16.000 Well, Alex, if the guest wants to explore this, the book that Sir Peter wrote is Voices from Another Room, and he'd find it in the UK.

02:17:25.000 Okay, well, thank you for that.

02:17:28.000 I'm sure I can find an air marshal who knows when you speed up.

02:17:34.000 All right.

02:17:36.000 And I guess up next is Wayne.

02:17:38.000 Wayne, where are you calling us from?

02:17:40.000 Okay, Wayne is gone.

02:17:43.000 Let's go ahead and go to Bob in California.

02:17:46.000 Bob, go ahead.

02:17:48.000 You're on the air, Bob.

02:17:50.000 I'm kind of sorry.

02:17:51.000 I'm not on topic today.

02:17:54.000 I wanted to call you about The die-bold machines that our county is using for touch-tone voting.

02:18:02.000 You know what?

02:18:02.000 I'm going to put you on hold and we'll get to you coming up in the next segment.

02:18:05.000 Good morning, Bob.

02:18:06.000 That's an interesting subject, but not one on which I could give any qualified comment.

02:18:10.000 Well, we've got so many callers here, it's hard to figure out who's calling in on subject.

02:18:15.000 It would be nice if they did call in on subject.

02:18:17.000 Well, you're a popular guy, Alex, and I can understand, having listened to your show, why you've got a lot of feedback.

02:18:22.000 Oh, well, it's great.

02:18:23.000 A lot of great people out there, and we've obviously got to have you back on because you're a very intelligent, very informative person, because there's not many people that I get on the show who end up knowing more about intelligence matters, because I study it pretty much perpetually, and you've brought out some very important information, and I really want to thank you for coming on the show, Mr. Shrimpton.

02:18:44.000 Alex, it's been my pleasure and a privilege.

02:18:46.000 And for those that just joined us, again, Michael Shrimpton, a national intelligence lawyer or barrister in England, and he writes for major intelligence journals and has consulted around the world on intelligence matters, and he was coming on exposing the murder of Dr. David Kelly.

02:19:04.000 Do you think those that were responsible will ever be brought to justice, sir?

02:19:08.000 I don't think they will.

02:19:10.000 I think those immediately responsible are already dead.

02:19:13.000 My guess is they were taken out within 24-48 hours of the assassination.

02:19:18.000 I suspect those involved in tasking the assassination will be dealt with informally and will be given valuable guidance.

02:19:26.000 And the public will not get to know about it.

02:19:29.000 And my guess is that the coroner, Nick Gardner, Thank you.

02:19:34.000 to hold an inquest will not hold an inquest. That means no jury will ever inquire into

02:19:39.000 the reasons for David's death.

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02:23:55.000 Okay, here's the deal.

02:23:56.000 I've already had two guests up today.

02:23:59.000 I've been gone for two days last week because I had the flu.

02:24:02.000 I got a stack of giant news articles, each one of them more important than the last.

02:24:07.000 I'm going to talk to Bob, Ron, Pat, and John.

02:24:09.000 That's it for calls.

02:24:10.000 I'm sorry, because I've got to spend at least 20 minutes here at the end of the show to cover all this news.

02:24:16.000 I mean, I've just got it coming out of my ears here.

02:24:19.000 Let's go ahead and go back to Bob, who had some points he wanted to make.

02:24:27.000 Bob, go ahead.

02:24:29.000 Yes, Alex.

02:24:31.000 I simply wanted to say that The other day on television on the local news channel, we had our registrar of voters tell us that the voting booth things, those diabolical machines that we have in Chesapeake County, she could guarantee that they would be absolutely excellent, they would not have any faults, could not be penetrated by any hackers.

02:24:54.000 Et cetera.

02:24:55.000 And she can guarantee that there's going to be no record of it, and you're not going to get any receipt, and no recounts allowed, and they say that here, they say that everywhere, and everywhere where you investigate, they're stealing elections.

02:25:07.000 Everywhere.

02:25:07.000 She said that in spite of the fact that there's four other counties surrounding this county suing the state to get these things outlawed.

02:25:14.000 Also, you're in California, the guy who ran the California election for Diebold was a convicted felon, and guess what he was a convicted felon for?

02:25:24.000 Computer Hacking!

02:25:25.000 Computer Hacking and Wire Fraud!

02:25:28.000 Oh, nice!

02:25:29.000 Nice Vice President of Diebold!

02:25:31.000 And by the way, all the Diebold machines got really good returns for Arnold.

02:25:35.000 He lost on machines that weren't Diebold, but he won on all the others, and he went on Meet the President and said, I'm going to be your new president!

02:25:42.000 Yeah, I've decided that I'm going to go down to the registrar and get a, what do you call that, a ballot to get the vote off of the machines.

02:25:53.000 You've got to start a recall petition to get rid of those things.

02:25:56.000 Well, I'm going to do an absentee ballot right away because I know that if she gets flooded with those kind of absentee ballots, they're going to say, why is no one using these machines?

02:26:06.000 Maybe they'll take a second look at the money that it's going to cost them, which is the only way to get their attention.

02:26:11.000 The Voter Assistance Act, uh, above Bush and Chuckie Schumer, that was like $6 billion, that was $5.8 billion, uh, to federalize.

02:26:20.000 This is all federally paid for!

02:26:22.000 Why, it's free machines!

02:26:24.000 The feds love us!

02:26:28.000 Thanks for the call.

02:26:29.000 Great points, Bob.

02:26:30.000 Ron in New York, and then Pat, and then John and others.

02:26:33.000 That's it.

02:26:34.000 Ron, go ahead.

02:26:36.000 Alex, isn't your guest, Mr. Schroepfer, isn't his life in danger also?

02:26:40.000 And the other question is, what about Nader?

02:26:44.000 Has he been brought up?

02:26:46.000 Well, I wish you had told us you wanted to talk to the guest.

02:26:49.000 I would have put you on with him.

02:26:52.000 Yeah, we addressed that.

02:26:53.000 By going public, he's safe.

02:26:55.000 And he told me a lot more off air, folks.

02:26:58.000 They got some really strange laws over there, but he told me a lot more off air, believe me.

02:27:02.000 But he has intelligence sources in MI5, MI6.

02:27:05.000 They all know they killed Kelly.

02:27:07.000 They knew before it even happened that they were going to kill him.

02:27:10.000 And by going public, he's safe.

02:27:13.000 And Nader, Ralph Nader, was he brought up to insure Bush's election?

02:27:17.000 Yeah, this is going to hurt a lot of greenies who are well-meaning people but have got it all wrong. 0.92

02:27:22.000 You don't stop big government with more big government.

02:27:26.000 You don't stop big corporations with big government.

02:27:28.000 Big corporations control big government.

02:27:30.000 You just give them a bigger tool to control you, a bigger hammer to hit you upside the head with, a bigger net to capture you in.

02:27:37.000 But was he put up to run Sotomayor?

02:27:40.000 Yeah, Nader puts out a lot of good info, a lot of things he says are true, but his solutions are wrong, and yeah, it's obvious.

02:27:47.000 And I'm not saying go get Democrats in!

02:27:49.000 But yes, yes, it is clear the Greens are funded by the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, they're the leftward control arm of the globalists.

02:28:01.000 Just like a lot of evidence shows some of the other so-called reform groups are the right-wing catch group.

02:28:10.000 You understand that way for those of us that go off the reservation looking for an alternative, they'll give us a steam valve like Nader. 0.97

02:28:19.000 So he's going to pull votes away from Kerry and Bush will win.

02:28:22.000 But it won't matter because John Forbes carries skull and bones.

02:28:27.000 And it doesn't matter because they're put in electronic voting machines.

02:28:30.000 You have the old model of controlling elections still in place.

02:28:33.000 As they put in the new model, the touchscreens openly run by the CIA.

02:28:38.000 Publicly run by the CIA.

02:28:39.000 So they ensure their win four different ways.

02:28:42.000 There's no way they can lose.

02:28:43.000 Well, exactly.

02:28:44.000 And in the future, I mean, it's going to be really funny watching them act like there's an election.

02:28:49.000 Or will these candidates really believe they're in an election?

02:28:53.000 We're gonna have to have candidates run as like secret agents locally who act like they're globalists and secretly get in and, you know, try to... We'll have to, like, covertly have, you know, I guess our own secret society to get people elected.

02:29:07.000 That's what they did to overthrow our country. 0.95

02:29:09.000 We're gonna have to have it to defeat them.

02:29:12.000 Do you get what I'm saying?

02:29:13.000 Yes, thanks a lot.

02:29:14.000 God bless you, Alex.

02:29:14.000 You're doing a great job.

02:29:15.000 Hey, God bless you, Ron.

02:29:16.000 Good to hear from you.

02:29:17.000 It's good to be back.

02:29:19.000 I never take off two days, folks.

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02:29:27.000 Here's 104 fever.

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02:32:50.000 I'm taking two more calls and we're doing an ultra-massive news blitz.

02:32:56.000 Let's talk to Pat Indiana, who's really been holding patiently.

02:32:59.000 Pat, good to hear from you.

02:33:00.000 Well, that's all right.

02:33:02.000 I just had two things to say.

02:33:04.000 I went to a meeting with Mike Pence and I went to Earlham College for a meeting about what's going on in the global situation.

02:33:13.000 And I asked Mike again about the Patriot Act 1 and 2, and the Victory Act 1 and 2, and I asked him to elaborate on 802, and... This is your Congressman?

02:33:24.000 Yeah, him.

02:33:25.000 And he said he helped write the whole Patriot Act, and he couldn't elaborate on 802, and he said there was no Patriot Act No. 2.

02:33:34.000 Okay, so we got John Ashcroft last year saying there's no Patriot Act 2.

02:33:40.000 After it's introduced, they've now passed over 60% of it in the Intelligence Act of last year, of December 13th that they passed. 0.98

02:33:51.000 And so you're dealing with a big, fat liar. 0.94

02:33:53.000 There's no Patriot Act II. 1.00

02:33:55.000 That person's a big, fat liar. 0.99

02:33:57.000 And where do I get this information? 1.00

02:33:59.000 Off your website?

02:34:00.000 Yeah, we have a detailed analysis of Patriot Act I and II on InfoWars.com, and then we have the Associated Press article covering the passage of Patriot Act II in December of last year, and we have Ron Paul's written analysis of it on the site as well.

02:34:17.000 So I don't know what this guy's talking about.

02:34:19.000 Okay.

02:34:21.000 We also went to a meeting over at Earlham College, where it's the Quaker College, and the subject was globalism, and a lot of them have seen your videos, and they're trying to start some grassroots movement around here.

02:34:34.000 But after I got some literature and came home, I realized on the literature it says, Quaker UN Office.

02:34:40.000 777-UN-PLUS in New York, New York.

02:34:43.000 That's what I was about to say.

02:34:44.000 Look, there's a lot of people involved with the Quakers who are well-meaning, nice folks, aren't evil, but in the 60s it got taken over by the Communists.

02:34:56.000 I've been to Quaker meetings to protest them. 0.98

02:34:58.000 Open borders, gun control, U.N.

02:35:00.000 control.

02:35:01.000 Oh yeah, the Quakers will talk about the New World Order and the big bankers and how it's the evil corporations, but their answer is the U.N. 0.96

02:35:10.000 publicly founded by the corporations!

02:35:13.000 So again, it's like the phony conservatives are on the air talking about the evil Democrats, but oh, the conservatives are good.

02:35:20.000 Then the Quakers will talk about the evil Republicans, oh, but the liberals are good.

02:35:24.000 Either way, the globalists still win.

02:35:26.000 Yeah, that's exactly what they were saying.

02:35:28.000 But it's fine to go recruit people out of the Quakers into the real reality. 1.00

02:35:34.000 That's a good thing to do.

02:35:35.000 Thanks for the call.

02:35:37.000 It's good to deprogram these people.

02:35:40.000 And I was about to make fun of the Quakers. 1.00

02:35:41.000 I decided not to do it, then you brought it up.

02:35:44.000 I mean, I shouldn't make fun of them.

02:35:45.000 They're very dangerous.

02:35:46.000 They want open borders.

02:35:49.000 They're globalists.

02:35:50.000 They're funded by the bankers.

02:35:51.000 They find well-meaning people and go, oh, socialism's the answer, see, when the bankers wrote that.

02:35:57.000 Let's talk to John in Tennessee.

02:35:59.000 Last caller.

02:36:00.000 Go ahead, John.

02:36:02.000 Yesterday on Meet the Press, Ralph Nader announced he's running for president without a party.

02:36:07.000 The Green Party refused to let him be its candidate or anyone else.

02:36:10.000 And Nader demanded the immediate impeachment of Bush.

02:36:14.000 He said Congressman Conyers is sponsoring a bill to impeach Bush before the election.

02:36:19.000 I have a clip of Nader's demand for impeachment.

02:36:22.000 It's exactly two minutes long and I have it queued up if you want me to play it on the radio.

02:36:25.000 Two minutes long?

02:36:27.000 Two minutes long is the clip of him discussing impeachment with Tim Russert.

02:36:31.000 Well, the audio's okay.

02:36:32.000 I might play it, John, but really, I mean, we can get the clips ourselves.

02:36:36.000 Well, it's on the transcript if you go to Meet the Press from yesterday.

02:36:39.000 Okay, go ahead and start rolling it if you want to play this.

02:36:42.000 You can cut it off when you get tired of it.

02:36:43.000 Okay.

02:36:43.000 Two minutes.

02:36:44.000 Okay.

02:36:45.000 I don't think America belongs just to these Democrat and Republican parties.

02:36:49.000 In terms of what you stand for, this is what you said in July of last year about George Bush.

02:36:55.000 Mr. Bush was not only beatable, but impeachable for deception.

02:36:59.000 That's too bad we can't do it.

02:37:01.000 John, you've got a horrible hum.

02:37:02.000 Sounds like we're all about to have our heads explode here.

02:37:07.000 Sorry.

02:37:07.000 Send me the video or send me a clip in an mp3 format to tipsandinfowars.com.

02:37:13.000 We can shoot it up to the network in Minnesota.

02:37:15.000 We can play stuff like that on air.

02:37:18.000 We do that quite a bit, but it really sounds bad when it's When it's like that, I'm sorry, it was horrible.

02:37:27.000 And I'm not saying Ralph Nader's evil, but his solutions are bad.

02:37:31.000 Okay, there's corrupt criminal corporations, I agree.

02:37:35.000 But you don't then get rid of the free market because there's some criminals abusing it.

02:37:40.000 The criminals are using government to selectively create a crony capitalism where the corporations use the government as their enforcer.

02:37:51.000 You don't create a bigger government and defeat them.

02:37:55.000 It's like if somebody's beating you over the head with a club and you go, I'm going to stop them.

02:37:59.000 I'm going to give them an even bigger club.

02:38:01.000 That's going to handle this.

02:38:05.000 And that's what leftists can't figure out.

02:38:07.000 And then of course the leftists are wrong on the social issues too.

02:38:12.000 And then the neocons are wrong on almost everything and think they're conservative.

02:38:18.000 Okay, you know what?

02:38:19.000 I'm going to cover news now in the last 20-something minutes we've got left here.

02:38:24.000 There's just so much of this.

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02:42:24.000 I said I'd read this editorial because it's so good and it says it all.

02:42:28.000 Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could by Rabbi Daniel Lappin.

02:42:36.000 And it says, two weeks before the opening of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, online ticket merchants reported that up to half of their total sales were for the film.

02:42:46.000 One Dallas Multiplex has reserved all 20 of its screens for The Passion.

02:42:51.000 I am neither a prophet nor a movie critic.

02:42:53.000 I am merely an orthodox rabbi.

02:42:55.000 This is from the Daily News, by the way.

02:42:59.000 I am merely an orthodox rabbi using ancient Jewish wisdom to make three predictions about the movie.

02:43:06.000 One, Mel Gibson and Icon Productions will make a great deal of money.

02:43:11.000 Those distributors who surrendered to pressure from Jewish organizations and passed on the passion will be kicking themselves while New Market Films will laugh all the way to the bank. 0.63

02:43:23.000 Two, The Passion will become famous as the most serious and substantive biblical movie ever made.

02:43:30.000 It will be one of the most talked about entertainment events in history.

02:43:34.000 My third prediction is that the faith of millions of Christians will become more fervent as the passion uplifts and inspires them.

02:43:42.000 The passion will propel vast numbers of unreligious Americans to embrace Christianity. 1.00

02:43:48.000 The movie will one day be seen as a harbinger of America's third great religious reawakening.

02:43:54.000 Those Jewish organizations that have squandered both time and money Protesting the Passion, ostensibly, in order to prevent pogroms in Pittsburgh, can hardly be proud of their performance.

02:44:07.000 They failed at everything they attempted.

02:44:10.000 They were hoping to ruin Gibson, rather than enrich him.

02:44:13.000 They were hoping to suppress the Passion, rather than promote it.

02:44:17.000 Finally, they were hoping to help Jews, rather than harm them.

02:44:23.000 But by selectively unleashing their fury only on wholesale entertainment that depicts Christianity in a positive light, these groups have triggered anger, hurt, and resentment.

02:44:35.000 Hosting a radio show and speaking before many audiences nationwide, I enjoy extensive communication with Christian America.

02:44:42.000 And what I hear is troubling.

02:44:44.000 Fearful and attracting the ire of Jewish groups that are so quick to hurl the anti-Semite epithet, some Christians are reluctant to speak out, although one can bludgeon resentful people into silence behind closed doors, emotions continue to simmer.

02:45:00.000 I consider it crucially important for Christians to know that not all Jews are in agreement with their self-appointed spokesman.

02:45:08.000 Most American Jews experience warm and gracious interactions each day with their Christian fellow citizens and would feel awkward trying to explain why so many Jewish organizations seem focused on an agenda hostile to Judeo-Christian values.

02:45:25.000 And it goes on and on and I couldn't say it any better.

02:45:28.000 And that's what I said last week. 0.98

02:45:29.000 I said no one would have seen this movie and thought, man, Jews are bad. 0.87

02:45:34.000 I mean, I grew up, folks, watching movies about Jesus, reading the Bible, and never thought, oh, Jews are bad. 0.95

02:45:41.000 I mean, this was the corrupt government of the Jews and the Romans killing somebody who was speaking out against their evil. 0.99

02:45:48.000 We know governments are evil. 0.57

02:45:51.000 We know man's evil.

02:45:53.000 So by the ADL running out and doing this and saying this, All they've done is made people think, hmm, what's going on?

02:46:02.000 And the rabbi goes on to say that.

02:46:05.000 And, uh, that's what I said last week.

02:46:10.000 And, uh, you know, look, I have Jewish friends, and, uh, They're upset about this.

02:46:16.000 I mean, they can't stand the ADL.

02:46:19.000 The ADL will go after a Jewish group of their pro-gun, folks.

02:46:22.000 I mean, it's just... It's time for Americans to stand up to the ADL, as well as the Southern Poverty Law Center, but they're not as powerful as the ADL, and to tell them to stop it.

02:46:31.000 Because they've totally discredited Jews when they try to stand up against something that is anti-Semitic.

02:46:39.000 Because there is a place for standing up against anti-Semitism.

02:46:42.000 There needs to be organizations that do that. 0.94

02:46:45.000 I mean, I stand up against racist Mexicans and blacks and white supremacists, but I don't have to be Jewish to do it! 0.85

02:46:51.000 And so, we need to understand here that this rabbi is correct, and it's time to stop letting the ADL be the spokesman for Jews. 0.98

02:47:00.000 It's real simple.

02:47:02.000 And on Hutton Gibson, good friend of mine, good people, I've talked to him many times off-air, he loves the Jewish people, he does not dislike Jews, everything you hear is taken out of context, He does not think 6 million Jews died.

02:47:17.000 Those numbers aren't clear.

02:47:19.000 Hutton studied it.

02:47:20.000 He hates Hitler.

02:47:22.000 He criticizes the Pope, folks.

02:47:24.000 Holds the Pope names.

02:47:26.000 He is against Zionism.

02:47:28.000 And he is not anti-Semitic.

02:47:30.000 And he believes Masons are the ones that are now in control of Judaism. 0.93

02:47:35.000 Uh, and uh, and they seem to be in control of everything for that matter.

02:47:39.000 And so they take that out of context and try to make him look like he's anti-semitic again, and it's just gonna backfire.

02:47:46.000 And I got a call from MSNBC, a call from CNN, and I just told my wife when she said they were on the phone, I just said, look, we're not doing the interviews because I'm not gonna sit here and add fuel to this fire.

02:47:58.000 So, and you know, I got Hutton's number as he travels around the country visiting family.

02:48:02.000 I don't think I'm going to call him and tell him, oh, Hutton, I didn't go on national TV and talk about you.

02:48:06.000 But perhaps Pastor Bush can tell him that, that I told MSNBC and others that I didn't want to talk to him.

02:48:13.000 But it's just horrible.

02:48:15.000 They've taken something wholesome like the Passion and tried to make it dirty.

02:48:18.000 And, you know, even if Hutton Gibson, you know, was bad, which he's not, he's a good guy.

02:48:23.000 Still, by going and focusing on him, they try to make it something nasty and bad, and it causes division.

02:48:29.000 And I've said it over and over again.

02:48:31.000 Multiculturalism does that.

02:48:33.000 It actually creates racism.

02:48:36.000 You can prove that.

02:48:38.000 Okay, prepare yourself for a news blitz.

02:48:40.000 Here, I spent too much time on this, but the Rabbi's words needed to be heard.

02:48:44.000 I agree with him.

02:48:47.000 House votes for ignition interlocks on every vehicle.

02:48:50.000 This is out of the Associated Press, Santa Fe, New Mexico.

02:48:52.000 I told you this five years ago.

02:48:54.000 You're all going to blow in the breathalyzer to start your cars.

02:48:58.000 And then it's going to be a retina scanner because, oh, you can have your kids or your wife blow for you.

02:49:02.000 This is the federal plan.

02:49:04.000 The House has approved a measure that would require ignition interlocks on every vehicle sold in New Mexico.

02:49:10.000 It would require the devices on new vehicles by 2008, and on used vehicles on sale by 2009.

02:49:15.000 And everyone will have to blow to start their car.

02:49:22.000 I mean, Big Brother on steroids?

02:49:25.000 Come on.

02:49:26.000 Good news, Carcieri pulls bill on Homeland Security.

02:49:31.000 This is out of the Providence Journal on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:49:37.000 Do you remember the last Wednesday we read the Governor's bill where it said, criticize the government, you're arrested as a terrorist, fly anything but the American flag, you're arrested as a terrorist?

02:49:50.000 Total government secrecy.

02:49:51.000 We're all terrorists now.

02:49:54.000 The World War I laws.

02:49:57.000 You talk about Nazi Germany.

02:49:58.000 Well, the governor says, I never read the bill.

02:50:01.000 I didn't know it.

02:50:01.000 I'm sorry.

02:50:02.000 I apologize.

02:50:05.000 But I am going to try to pass another bill.

02:50:08.000 And by the way, he went to the governor's conference with Governor Ridge and got this legislation.

02:50:15.000 So that shows you what Ridge is up to.

02:50:17.000 And it says a bunch of states have passed it.

02:50:20.000 Good news, though.

02:50:21.000 We got the word, and we got radio stations up in that neck of the woods.

02:50:25.000 1320 and other great folks.

02:50:28.000 And so we got it stopped, thanks to you, so good job.

02:50:33.000 But, boy, you talk about nightmare stuff.

02:50:35.000 Arnold wants to be your president.

02:50:36.000 We'll talk about a real live Nazi that the ADL loves.

02:50:40.000 Hadn't found a Nazi they don't love, boy, I tell ya.

02:50:42.000 We'll talk about this monster when we get back.

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02:53:50.000 New York Times reports, court upholds judge's right to compel medication.

02:53:55.000 The state's highest court on Tuesday upheld the constitutionality of law that gives judges authority to force mentally ill people to comply with treatment, but we've actually read the legislation and what the court ruled on.

02:54:09.000 That's not the case.

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02:54:20.000 This is from CBS News, and this is the tip of the iceberg.

02:54:23.000 An internal FBI report kept under wraps for three years entails dozens of cases of agents fired for egregious misconduct and crimes including drug trafficking, attempted murder, theft, misuse of informants, consorting with prostitutes.

02:54:39.000 Report Wednesday by Senator Charles Grassley, Republican Iowa, found that about 1,000 agents were dismissed in all for serious misconduct or criminal offenses by the FBI during the period examined from 1986 to 1999.

02:54:55.000 The average was between 8 and 9 per year.

02:55:01.000 How do you have 1,000 agents were dismissed for serious misconduct And over 16 years, it's only 90 years.

02:55:10.000 Boy, do the math there.

02:55:12.000 That's a misprint.

02:55:16.000 Although the numbers were small, the FBI's attempts to cover it up were a concern.

02:55:22.000 Folks!

02:55:24.000 You've got compartmentalized FBI agents.

02:55:26.000 In fact, most of the guys that get kicked out were the good guys who blew the whistle.

02:55:30.000 And I have specific cases.

02:55:32.000 The big fat cats are getting paid off by the Mafia.

02:55:35.000 And in many cases, they act as the Mafia.

02:55:37.000 And that's all come out in the Boston Globe.

02:55:40.000 So don't try to spin it, CBS.

02:55:42.000 I mean, it is scary, folks.

02:55:44.000 Murder for hire, drug dealing, you name it.

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02:55:49.000 Very scary people.

02:55:52.000 This is out of the Sunday Telegraph.

02:55:55.000 Bin Laden surrounded!

02:55:57.000 The British Sunday newspaper is claiming that Osama Bin Laden has been found and is surrounded by U.S.

02:56:01.000 Special Forces in an area of land bordering North Pakistan and Afghanistan.

02:56:06.000 He told you two years ago he died of kidney failure, will be handed over right before the election.

02:56:11.000 Now Albright says it, now everybody says it.

02:56:14.000 U.S.

02:56:15.000 search for Bin Laden intensifies.

02:56:16.000 This is the Washington Times.

02:56:18.000 The Pentagon is moving elements of a super-secret commando unit from Iraq to Afghanistan theater to set up the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.

02:56:25.000 So now they're telling you about how they're about to stage it.

02:56:30.000 So that's a real joke.

02:56:31.000 Schwarzenegger argues for White House run.

02:56:35.000 And, uh, he said that, uh, there are so many people in this country that are now from overseas!

02:56:41.000 They are immigrants!

02:56:42.000 They are doing such terrific jobs with their work!

02:56:46.000 Bringing businesses here!

02:56:47.000 There is no reason why not!

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02:56:53.000 Because you're a racist scumbag! 1.00

02:56:56.000 Because you're a fat pig! 1.00

02:56:58.000 And more importantly, because you're a foreign agent of a foreign power called the New World Order. 1.00

02:57:03.000 You're a little minion of George Shultz.

02:57:06.000 And we passed that law.

02:57:09.000 That amendment.

02:57:10.000 And we have that in our Constitution.

02:57:12.000 Because right at the founding of America, the Austrians got their people in and overthrew the government of Poland.

02:57:22.000 Using foreigners, they got elected. 1.00

02:57:25.000 From Austria, you piece of filth! 1.00

02:57:29.000 You gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, socialist, Bush supporter! 0.99

02:57:33.000 So, he goes on to say, look at the kind of contribution people like Henry Kissinger have made!

02:57:39.000 Madeleine Albright, he said, referring to two former Secretaries of State who were born in Europe!

02:57:47.000 It's sick! 0.99

02:57:50.000 An abortion-promoting, gun-grabbing, open-border-loving, Nazi. 0.99

02:57:57.000 Hey, if you love all that, you get ADL approved.

02:58:02.000 Oh man, it's just rebels control more than Haiti.

02:58:05.000 They're getting ready to send U.S. 0.99

02:58:06.000 troops.

02:58:07.000 Well, actually, U.S.

02:58:07.000 troops are already there, but larger contingencies are on the ground.

02:58:12.000 That'll be a nice diversion.

02:58:13.000 More aliens try to enter after Amnesty.

02:58:16.000 Washington Times admitting it's a record invasion.

02:58:19.000 DARPA, they admit, is now back with the Total Information Awareness Network.

02:58:23.000 Folks, it was never gone.

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02:58:27.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

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02:58:29.000 There's a lot more.

02:58:30.000 I didn't get to.

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02:58:33.000 Just get out there and fight the New World War! 0.92

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Alex Jones Show - February 23, 2004

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