Alex Jones Show - 20040318_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:27.000 Alright my friends, it's already Thursday, the 18th day.

00:00:33.000 The 18th day of March 2004.

00:00:37.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:39.000 A ton of vital news and information.

00:00:42.000 You do not want to miss this show.

00:00:43.000 More has come out on the Bohemian Grove.

00:00:47.000 Of course, years ago I was sent the 1986 to 1996 Annals of the Grove, published by the Bohemian Grove, the Skull and Bones occult offshoot in Northern California, where many presidents and prime ministers and CEOs attend.

00:01:04.000 I snuck in and got video of the ritual.

00:01:06.000 I talked about that yesterday.

00:01:07.000 It's aired on national television.

00:01:10.000 Well, now people have been going around online to rare bookstores and to eBay and other places and found more Bohemian Grove books for sale.

00:01:19.000 One of them with a swastika on the cover.

00:01:23.000 We know about the Nazi motif at Skull and Bones.

00:01:27.000 I wasn't aware of it at Bohemian Grove, though they admit it was founded by a German death cult.

00:01:33.000 So, more on that coming up.

00:01:35.000 Also, about three weeks ago, at PrisonPlanet.com, Henry McHale, who does a lot of great work on his website, sent us a story and some of the photos of a husband and wife who have sent us good RFID information in the past about how they were in a store and their wad of money made the store security go off.

00:02:01.000 Now, we'd heard this before because there is the old-fashioned RFID magnetic strip at all money since 1998 above a $1 bill.

00:02:09.000 There's nothing in the dollar bill that we know of, but fives and up, all the way up to a thousand, have the old strip, which they admit that they could scan and the police had systems that identify large amounts of cash with it.

00:02:20.000 We have the articles about that mainstream.

00:02:23.000 People still couldn't believe it, even as I pulled the strips out on television.

00:02:27.000 all of the white to the strip running through it a perpendicular and a pull it out of the light

00:02:34.000 well this family put a lot of twenties in the microwave and they

00:02:38.000 explore kind of started popping and catching on fire in the center of the

00:02:41.000 bill and so

00:02:43.000 of all those of what's his brother didn't have any dollars but he had euros

00:02:47.000 He put those in the microwave, and right in the middle of the Euro, it popped and caught on fire, and we put those photos up on the site.

00:02:55.000 They wanted to obviously keep their money, so they didn't let it burn completely up, but it popped and exploded right in the middle.

00:03:01.000 Now Paul's trying to find a video camera so they can videotape this happening.

00:03:05.000 Then, I took 20s, put them in my home microwave, they just browned in the middle, right in Jackson's face.

00:03:12.000 Then I put them in a more high-powered microwave, and they did indeed pop and start smoldering, and obviously I turned it off, but I didn't want to do anything dangerous.

00:03:20.000 So I got on there and said, hey folks, this is really going on.

00:03:22.000 About half the calls, half the emails we've gotten, and there's been hundreds, have shown that they do pop and catch on fire.

00:03:29.000 About half of the others say it doesn't happen, or they just brown.

00:03:34.000 It seems to be old microwaves that cause the reaction.

00:03:38.000 Well, Jacqueline McCullough, who writes for CNET News and a bunch of other big publications and has his own great website, he's been a guest on this show probably over ten times, has the headline here in this story, RFID Industry Tries to Debunk Exploding $20 Bill.

00:03:57.000 And it says, The Myth of the Amazing Exploding $20 Bill.

00:04:01.000 And I guess he's forwarding something put out by AIM North, An RFID manufacturer, so we'll read what they had to say.

00:04:11.000 I don't know about AIM North, maybe great guys, but I do know that the other areas of the RFID industry have put out this info, have claimed Walmart wasn't tracking you, wasn't going to put it in the products, and they caught them doing it.

00:04:25.000 I mean, hundreds of articles last year, this year, smart shelves with cameras that watch you and take photos of you and integrate it with the RFID.

00:04:35.000 And so that's it.

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00:04:37.000 We just posted a little bit on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:04:39.000 We're about to post something on InfoWars.com.

00:04:42.000 I'm going to add more and just put it all together in one giant area.

00:04:46.000 I mean, here's the new scientist.

00:04:48.000 RFID chips watch grandma brush her teeth.

00:04:52.000 I mean, what?

00:04:52.000 That's the new scientist here.

00:04:54.000 So, we're just reporting what's going on.

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:24.000 Alright folks, thanks for joining us.

00:08:26.000 There's been a lot of new developments concerning the bombings in Spain.

00:08:31.000 Even the CIA is having to now quietly come out publicly, but again, it's in the back of the newspaper, and say, okay, the supposed Al-Qaeda group we've been blaming, turns out it's not even a real group.

00:08:44.000 Boston Globe yesterday said, may not even exist.

00:08:47.000 Now they're saying doesn't exist.

00:08:49.000 Again, shadowy imaginary groups that take responsibility for the bombings.

00:08:54.000 Classic globalist MO.

00:08:56.000 But first, in this first hour, I want to get into this new controversy.

00:09:01.000 We post, literally, probably, I don't know, 500 news stories a week on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:09:10.000 My wife's the webmaster for InfoWars.com.

00:09:12.000 Paul Joseph Watson does the work on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:09:15.000 His brother also does some posting.

00:09:18.000 And I'd say we've got about a 99% accuracy level.

00:09:22.000 You know, the mainstream media tries to lie on purpose, we try to tell the truth.

00:09:26.000 And when we're wrong about something, we're the first to admit it.

00:09:28.000 But I don't believe we're wrong about this exploding, or popping, we should say, $20 bill story.

00:09:36.000 And we're posting.

00:09:37.000 We already have it all on the site.

00:09:39.000 We're posting it all in one place.

00:09:40.000 The articles about the U.S.

00:09:41.000 government plan to put RFID in the money that they claimed two years ago.

00:09:45.000 The articles about the EU saying they're going to put RFID in the money.

00:09:48.000 The Japanese saying they're going to do it. 1.00

00:09:50.000 Already doing it.

00:09:52.000 We're posting all of that because... Henry McHale, three weeks ago, sent us an email and some photos.

00:09:59.000 Because he knows we're into RFID.

00:10:01.000 He's got a big website.

00:10:02.000 He's a PhD.

00:10:04.000 In psychology up in Canada.

00:10:06.000 And he says, yeah, I got sent these photos and this article about these exploding $20 bills.

00:10:10.000 Well, my webmasters are over in England for Present Planet.

00:10:13.000 And then they stuck their pounds in the microwave, didn't pop, didn't catch on fire.

00:10:18.000 So they go, well, we don't have any dollars, any new 20s.

00:10:21.000 They had some dollars, they said, but no new 20s.

00:10:23.000 You know, the new pink ones, the new pink and blue ones.

00:10:26.000 Let's go ahead and stick in there some of these new Euros we just got when we visited France.

00:10:35.000 Now within three seconds they popped, fizzled, sparked, smoked and burned little holes right in the middle, same

00:10:41.000 spot the 20s do that.

00:10:43.000 And so they posted that too.

00:10:45.000 So, I then said, after we get emails, calls, we did that.

00:10:50.000 Day one we posted it.

00:10:52.000 Millions of people were going to it.

00:10:54.000 Thousands of prominent websites linking to it.

00:10:56.000 It was the biggest story on the net after it had been up for about a week.

00:10:59.000 For one day, after it had been up for a week, it suddenly became the biggest story on the net.

00:11:03.000 That is, that one particular story got the most hits.

00:11:05.000 They have websites where I can track that.

00:11:08.000 Just some little obscure article, we posted.

00:11:11.000 And some other sites, of course, posted it as well, but ours got all the attention.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, I put mine in.

00:11:18.000 They sparked and popped.

00:11:20.000 I put mine in.

00:11:20.000 Nothing happened.

00:11:21.000 I put mine in.

00:11:21.000 It turned brown on his face.

00:11:23.000 And I turned it off, you know, for fear of fire.

00:11:25.000 And we're like, yeah, be careful folks when you're doing this.

00:11:29.000 We don't recommend you do this.

00:11:30.000 So it was about 50-50.

00:11:32.000 But I would ask people.

00:11:33.000 On air and in emails.

00:11:34.000 Well, do you have a new low-power microwave?

00:11:36.000 Yeah.

00:11:37.000 Those that said they did catch on fire, do you have a high-powered old microwave?

00:11:41.000 You know the types that are at convenience stores that, you know, heat up your item in like 60 seconds, but the one at your house takes 5 minutes to do the same thing?

00:11:48.000 Well, the high-powered ones, this happens.

00:11:51.000 Because I've tested it.

00:11:52.000 And my little microwave at my house just turned brown in about 30 seconds. 0.97

00:11:56.000 In a industrial microwave, that sucker started popping and smoking within 10 seconds.

00:12:02.000 And the one that Watson's brother has started in 3 seconds, and they didn't want to lose their Euro notes, so they turned it off.

00:12:11.000 And I'm still on air.

00:12:13.000 We don't know what's going on.

00:12:16.000 And we're trying to find the news articles.

00:12:17.000 I remember, I think it was Wired, or was it Scientific American?

00:12:22.000 I can't remember, but there was an article about a year and a half ago about the new colored money coming out, which people didn't even believe by the way then.

00:12:30.000 Even though I had the Federal Reserve documents on it, and it showed, I think it was over 10 different security features.

00:12:35.000 If somebody finds that, send it to tips and info wars dot com.

00:12:38.000 We've been doing searches, but ran out of time before show time, because I just learned of this Declan McCullough piece, or him forwarding what an RFID company said about us 30 minutes before I drove to the studio.

00:12:49.000 So about, probably about an hour ago.

00:12:54.000 So, again, This is important, because they say they're putting the RFID in, they say it's going on, they pointed out, quote, hidden security features, and in the same article said, last year, about a year and a half ago, that there are other features that they won't tell us about.

00:13:12.000 Then we read articles about how they want to put RFID in it.

00:13:15.000 So we don't know!

00:13:16.000 I just know I put them in one microwave, they turn brown, right in the center, put another one, they catch on fire.

00:13:23.000 Now that's what happened, and I said I was going to videotape it, but I've been so busy I haven't.

00:13:27.000 Now, obviously, I'm going to.

00:13:29.000 But if somebody in Europe wants to videotape it and send us the video clip, we'll post it on our servers, on our dime, because Watson's brother has a video camera, but not one with a firewire in it, so we can get it into the computer.

00:13:50.000 We need to, I guess somebody there in their area of England needs to get with them so we can videotape that there.

00:13:56.000 They've got some more Euros they'll put back in because within seconds those babies go off. 0.96

00:14:01.000 And the EU again said, what, two years ago that by, well, this year or next year they'd be putting them in and lo and behold, what is in there?

00:14:09.000 Very interesting.

00:14:12.000 Now coming up in about 15 minutes, We've got Catherine Albrecht coming on, who's got the No Cards website and the No RFID Card site. 0.98

00:14:21.000 She's been attacked by the big RFID makers.

00:14:23.000 She's gotten emails, it's been in the newspaper, it's come out, where the RFID industry's been wanting to go after her and smear her. 0.98

00:14:30.000 And everything she said two, three years ago has now been in the mainstream news, that they plan to put RFIDs in all the products, tracking traces at the Pentagon and Homeland Security are involved, that all of this is going on.

00:14:43.000 And I point you to the new scientist from yesterday, because she said this three years ago, I said this three years ago.

00:14:49.000 Tex Mars wrote a book about this in 1996.

00:14:53.000 It was published in 96, written in 95.

00:14:57.000 Project Lucid, we carry it on the website.

00:15:00.000 That baby's eight years old now, and he laid out the official federal plans in that.

00:15:06.000 So, you know, I'm tired of this.

00:15:09.000 RFID chips Watch grandma brush teeth, and I just want to ask AMI North, the RFID maker and others, is this not true either?

00:15:18.000 You want to go after the new scientist?

00:15:22.000 It says tiny computer chips that emit unique radio frequency IDs could be slapped on toothbrushes, chairs, and even toilet seats to monitor elderly people in their own homes.

00:15:32.000 I read articles a month ago about putting them in the pills.

00:15:36.000 Data harvested from the RFID chips would reassure family and caregivers that an elderly person was taking care of themselves.

00:15:43.000 For example, taking their medication.

00:15:45.000 Usual data patterns would provide an early warning that something was wrong.

00:15:49.000 They say the kids have to thumb scan in thousands of school districts now for five years.

00:15:54.000 And now to get on school buses is starting in Florida and New York.

00:15:57.000 To quote, track their activities and are they not getting on the bus?

00:16:01.000 Are they not eating proper food?

00:16:02.000 Should CPS be called?

00:16:03.000 It's all part of it.

00:16:05.000 Two states, New York and New Mexico, about to pass laws.

00:16:07.000 You've got to have a breathalyzer automatically in your car.

00:16:10.000 All of us guilty until proven innocent.

00:16:12.000 I mean, we've proven what we're talking about.

00:16:14.000 I don't know about RFIDs.

00:16:16.000 I know these bills catch on fire.

00:16:18.000 Okay?

00:16:18.000 And I know they said they're going to put them in them.

00:16:20.000 And I know RFIDs explode in a microwave.

00:16:22.000 So again, A group of Intel researchers demonstrated the technology to U.S.

00:16:27.000 government officials in Washington, D.C.

00:16:29.000 on Tuesday.

00:16:29.000 The event aimed to show how embedded wireless chips could help tackle the care problems created by the rapidly rising number of senior citizens.

00:16:37.000 Such networks have already been deployed to monitor the environment and scan for empty parking lots.

00:16:42.000 You hear that?

00:16:44.000 This technology could enable people to age in their homes with greater dignity, safety, and independence.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, right.

00:16:51.000 Now we can have the new elderly CPS come grab them and euthanize them. 0.87

00:16:56.000 And it goes on.

00:16:58.000 As we live for longer, the proportion of the population that is elderly is growing quickly.

00:17:02.000 As a result, the health system is facing a collapse.

00:17:06.000 And it says, probabilistic reasoning, whatever that means.

00:17:11.000 Intel Solution, big computer company, chip country company, requires an elderly person to wear a glove embedded with an RFID reader the size of two AA batteries.

00:17:21.000 The reader clocks any triggered object that the person touches and wirelessly transmits their unique ID to a central PC which records it in real time.

00:17:31.000 So, there is that article and it goes on and on and on and on about how wonderful it is.

00:17:39.000 So, again, Walmart, before there was heat on this three years ago in USA Today, said everything you buy will be tracked and traced.

00:17:47.000 It will be in all products.

00:17:49.000 RFID Industries have put out pictorial representations and PowerPoint presentations showing the RFID at the factory, to the warehouse, to the store, to your home, to, of course, you guessed it, the landfill.

00:18:05.000 By the way, Paul, post that, too, in the expose you're building on PrisonPlanet.com, and I know my wife's putting one together right now for InfoWars.com, as well.

00:18:14.000 You need to integrate those two stories.

00:18:17.000 And send your mainstream stories that you want to be added, folks, to tips at InfoWars.com or you can go to PrisonPlanet.com and go to the contact info and email Paul.

00:18:28.000 Because I'm angry about this because, well, I need to read the press release of AIM North President Dan Mullen.

00:18:39.000 We're going to try to get him on the show.

00:18:41.000 And again, Declan McCullough, who I think is a good guy, he sent out their press releases in email.

00:18:46.000 He writes for some of the biggest industry technology publications.

00:18:49.000 Headline, RFID Industry Tries a Debunked Exploding $20 Bill.

00:18:53.000 That's Declan's headline.

00:18:55.000 We're trying to get Declan on too right now.

00:18:58.000 And we got Albert coming on here in about 10 minutes.

00:19:01.000 And it says, The Myth of the Amazing Exploding $20 Bill.

00:19:04.000 Now, that's the press release by Dan Mullen, President AIM.

00:19:08.000 And it says, do $20 bills explode when placed in a microwave oven?

00:19:11.000 Do they contain hidden radio frequency identification tags?

00:19:14.000 Can the government track you through your cash?

00:19:16.000 Well, they admit the old scanner strip in the money since 98 does that.

00:19:21.000 We need to get that article and we need to take their press release and make everything they say a hyperlink.

00:19:26.000 That's how to deal with this.

00:19:28.000 Every word.

00:19:30.000 One website recently published an expose, and that's in quotes, about the supposed presence of RFID chip placed beneath Andrew Jackson's right eye on the new 20s bill.

00:19:40.000 This site claims that microwaving bills will cause the RFID tag to explode and burn the bill, thus exposing the hidden tag.

00:19:46.000 Microwaving an RFID tag will cause it to create some spectacular sparks and will cause it to pop.

00:19:52.000 They go on to say that when they put one in a microwave, that indeed did happen.

00:19:56.000 But without the $20 bill, just the chip.

00:19:57.000 We'll be back.

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00:24:00.000 Alright, we got Catherine Albrecht who's been falsely targeted by other sectors of 0.79

00:24:13.000 the RFID industry before.

00:24:15.000 We posted some of those news articles.

00:24:17.000 Everything she's laid out has turned out to be very accurate.

00:24:19.000 In fact, she's underestimated, in my opinion, the real scub of the RFID many, many times.

00:24:26.000 So she's going to be joining us coming up in the next segment.

00:24:32.000 And again, if you just joined us, Three weeks ago, almost four weeks ago, we posted some photos of a man and woman who'd put their twenties in a microwave and watched them catch on fire and then pop and explode.

00:24:49.000 And the question is, do those bills have RFID in them?

00:24:52.000 The government has talked about doing this.

00:24:54.000 We know they, quote, have some hidden security devices in it.

00:24:56.000 The European Union has said they're doing it.

00:24:59.000 We tested Euros ourselves.

00:25:02.000 They did indeed pop in the very same spot instantly, within three seconds, and start burning.

00:25:08.000 And so we're posting all of that.

00:25:09.000 Well, it's already been posted, but we're posting it all in one spot.

00:25:12.000 Some people put their 20s, their new 20s, in microwaves.

00:25:15.000 It doesn't happen.

00:25:16.000 It happened for me in one microwave, and not in the other one.

00:25:19.000 So it seems to be the frequency of the microwave.

00:25:22.000 But AIM, or AIM North, this big RFID company, Came out and said, one website recently published an expose about the supposed presence of an RFID chip placed behind Andrew Jackson's right eye.

00:25:37.000 We said that, you know, is that where it's at?

00:25:38.000 That's where the fire starts.

00:25:40.000 On the new $20 bill, the site claims the microwaving bills will cause the RFID tag to explode and burn the bill.

00:25:46.000 And by the way, the people discovered this because they had, they'd just gone to an ATM, had a bunch of 20s, went through the security door and it went off.

00:25:55.000 And they figured out that when they took the money out and left it outside and came back in, that didn't happen.

00:26:01.000 And again, the government admits the old scripts in the money can be scanned and read by different devices they have.

00:26:06.000 I mean, there is an old-fashioned RFID in money since 98.

00:26:10.000 That's admitted.

00:26:11.000 They continue, microwaving an RFID type will cause it to create some spectacular sparks and will cause it to pop.

00:26:17.000 They're quoting the website, the story the family wrote for us.

00:26:21.000 As a result, some people have begun wrapping their cash in aluminum foil to foil reading of the RFID tag.

00:26:28.000 In fact, placing a $20 bill in a microwave oven does not cause it to explode, burn, or affect it in any way.

00:26:36.000 Is that an old $20 or a new $20, buddy?

00:26:38.000 In order to determine whether or not there was a security feature in the $20 bill that would cause this phenomenon, you don't make it clear.

00:26:45.000 Did you put the new one in?

00:26:47.000 AIM North America tested a new $20 bill in a microwave oven.

00:26:51.000 After one minute on high, the bill was barely warm.

00:26:54.000 Next, an RFID tag of the type used by commercial laundries was placed adjacent to Andrew Jackson's portrait on a new $20 bill and again placed in a microwave oven.

00:27:03.000 After only two seconds, the end.

00:27:05.000 That's what we said.

00:27:06.000 Three seconds, folks.

00:27:07.000 After only two seconds.

00:27:08.000 Funny you got the same result.

00:27:11.000 After only two seconds, the antenna and the chip on the RFID tag began to, quote, fry.

00:27:16.000 After 20 seconds, the destruction of the RFID tag did set the bill on fire.

00:27:21.000 The area around Andrew Jackson's right eye, where the covert tag is supposed to be hidden, was entirely unaffected.

00:27:27.000 The attacks, the scans, are the $20 bill that was tested.

00:27:31.000 The burn area, the right of the portrait, remains on the laundry tag.

00:27:35.000 Due to the power of the Internet, the source of the rumor, And PrisonPlanet.com has been quoted internationally.

00:27:42.000 At least one article based on this published in Flemish and on a Belgian website.

00:27:46.000 Even a casual examination of the $20 bill revealed that there is no hidden tag.

00:27:50.000 It's got the old-fashioned strip which is rated as an RFID in it!

00:27:54.000 You are wrong!

00:27:56.000 You are wrong right there!

00:27:57.000 Holding the bill up to the right light will expose any RFID chip or antenna.

00:28:01.000 Exactly!

00:28:02.000 Hold the new money up.

00:28:03.000 It's got the old-fashioned strip in it, which is a primitive, scan-readable RFID.

00:28:09.000 Boy, I tell you, you are just something else!

00:28:13.000 So, for reliable information on RFID, please visit RFID.org.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, the big industry mouthpiece.

00:28:21.000 One month, we plan to trap you with this.

00:28:22.000 It'll be on all products.

00:28:23.000 Next month, we never said that!

00:28:26.000 You know, it's like, uh, it's like Rumsfeld on the war or something.

00:28:30.000 They're weapons of mass destruction.

00:28:32.000 Well, I never said that, you know.

00:28:34.000 Uh, so, my goodness.

00:28:36.000 I mean, amazing.

00:28:37.000 So, I don't know if all the 20s have it.

00:28:40.000 I don't know if they're popping and exploding because of an RFID.

00:28:43.000 People sent us a story, we posted it, it became the biggest story on the internet.

00:28:48.000 Uh, for, you know, it built up for a week, one of the biggest, became the biggest for a day, and then went down from there.

00:28:55.000 But the point is, we posted it to have a debate about it.

00:28:58.000 And the fact is, governments are saying they are putting it in and are planning to put it in.

00:29:02.000 In a whole bunch of countries.

00:29:04.000 I mean, new scientists are planning to put it in grandma's toothbrush tracker.

00:29:08.000 They plan to make school children aware of these for, quote, security.

00:29:12.000 To be tracked by a GPS locator in the school.

00:29:16.000 That pings off the RFID and watches where they're at.

00:29:18.000 I mean, we have these articles coming out of our ears that the RFID industry The RFID industry will say one thing one day and something else later.

00:29:27.000 I don't know about AIM.

00:29:28.000 I don't even know who this group is.

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00:33:11.000 She's been interviewed by national television, international radio, newspapers.

00:33:17.000 She's of course completing her doctorate there at Harvard.

00:33:22.000 She started out many years ago exposing the fact that when you get discount cards, Uh, at the grocery store, quote, discount cards.

00:33:28.000 I mean, it's training you to get on the cards.

00:33:30.000 I'll go to the grocery store, buy $200 worth of stuff, and they go, it would have been $145 if you had the Randalls card.

00:33:39.000 You know, it's training you, and it's come out that a lot of the big grocery stores are selling the data, using it, using it to tell what people are buying to actually boost prices overall.

00:33:49.000 I mean, it's a bunch of statistical data analysis.

00:33:53.000 And they all tried to deny it for years, and now it's all mainstream news and admitted.

00:33:57.000 It's like I told you that OnStar, Echelon listens to you over the OnStar if they want to.

00:34:02.000 Nobody believed it.

00:34:03.000 Now they've lost lawsuits over it.

00:34:05.000 I mean, the federal government has.

00:34:06.000 It's been all over the news.

00:34:08.000 This stuff's incredible what's going on.

00:34:10.000 Then she got into RFID.

00:34:12.000 I gotta tell you, Professor Tex Mars of Space and Aeronautics from UT, you know him as Pastor Tex Mars, went into the ministry 20 years ago.

00:34:21.000 He wrote a book, eight years ago, called Project Lucid, where he got the federal documents about how they plan to put RFID in all the products and track us and track children and old people and criminals, you know, the weakest members of society.

00:34:33.000 Here it is today, eight years later, a new scientist, RFID chips, watch granny brush teeth, for safety of course. 1.00

00:34:40.000 And so Catherine Albert got into RFID.

00:34:42.000 I mean, I remember three years ago, USA Today, saying everything we do will be tracked and traced, and cameras scanning our faces with the RFID, and the government reviewing it, and the stores reviewing it.

00:34:54.000 Frankly, Catherine is so meticulous that You know, I think she underestimates it many times, but she's been attacked by the RFID industry, different sectors of it.

00:35:03.000 Coming up in 30 minutes, and I want to keep her on with him, we have a consultant for AimNorth, a big RFID company, Burt Moore coming on the show, and Catherine, you're welcome to stay with us for that, because I want you guys to be able to have a discussion, but they put out this press release.

00:35:18.000 Now again, just so you know, Catherine, because we haven't talked in a while, You research this.

00:35:24.000 We got sent a story from Henry Mckell, PhD in Canada.

00:35:27.000 People here in the US, the money made the alarms go off.

00:35:31.000 We know the old strip is a primitive type scan readable piece of filament oxide tape.

00:35:38.000 That's in the new money too.

00:35:40.000 The Europeans have talked about putting it in the money.

00:35:42.000 The Japanese, others are doing it. 1.00

00:35:44.000 This is all happening.

00:35:46.000 They put it in, it caught on fire, popped, exploded.

00:35:49.000 My webmaster in England put it in the microwave, it popped in three seconds just as AIM says RFIDs do.

00:35:55.000 We posted that.

00:35:56.000 I put it in one microwave, a little white one we've got that'll hardly heat anything, just turned it brown, put it in an industrial one, exploded in three seconds, I turned it off, didn't want to start a fire.

00:36:06.000 So I have found this to be true.

00:36:08.000 I don't know what's in there, because it's so small we can't really even get at it.

00:36:12.000 But we know they're putting it in shoes and clothes, and people have been caught, you know, Gillette razors.

00:36:19.000 So, Catherine Albrecht, tell us about your background, who you are, and what you think is really going on here.

00:36:26.000 uh... california there We're getting her up on the air. 0.99

00:36:34.000 I'm told that my board operator was talking to her.

00:36:37.000 Let's go ahead and bring Catherine up, guys. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Now, here on the show, please.

00:36:42.000 I guess girls will talk, you know that. 1.00

00:36:44.000 So they're having a little discussion right now.

00:36:46.000 I'm not sure about what.

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00:36:54.000 Catherine, thanks for being here.

00:36:56.000 Sure.

00:36:56.000 I appreciate it.

00:36:57.000 Give us a little bit of background yourself, how you got into this and what's going on with the RFI industry and your whole take on this exploding 20-story.

00:37:08.000 Well, let's see.

00:37:09.000 I'm Catherine Albrecht, the founder and director of Caspian.

00:37:12.000 We're the folks who have been taking on the RFID industry for the last year and uncovered scandals around the world, everywhere from Wal-Mart and Gillette and Tesco in England, and most recently we're behind the big protest over in Germany about this stuff.

00:37:27.000 Masses of people protesting, the grocery stores doing this, others doing this.

00:37:31.000 Give us some of the big scandals that they've tried to deny that later came out to be true.

00:37:35.000 Well, probably one of the most interesting ones was when Walmart installed what they call a smart shelf, which we actually call a spy shelf, in a store in Brockton, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston.

00:37:47.000 What we found there was that I actually went out to the store.

00:37:50.000 I had read about this and heard about it at industry conferences.

00:37:52.000 I went out to the store and sure enough there was all the wiring and stuff hooked up to the shelf, so I took some pictures of it.

00:38:00.000 And according to the documentation on the shelf, what it did is a customer would pick up a package of Mach 3 razor blades.

00:38:08.000 A hidden camera on the shelf would take that customer's picture, actually an up-close mug shot of their face, on the assumption that everybody picking up razor blades must be a shoplifter.

00:38:18.000 And then a second camera would actually take another hidden picture of the individual when they paid for the razor blades at the check stamp.

00:38:24.000 Now, we had found out that this was going on over in a chain in England, their biggest grocery chain over there called Tesco.

00:38:31.000 There were protests and they had to shut it down.

00:38:34.000 And then when I found it here in Massachusetts, right here on our own soil, both Walmart and Gillette tried to deny the whole story.

00:38:43.000 Now, before we go any further, Catherine, before we go any further, this is key because you went to the industry conference in Chicago last year.

00:38:50.000 You were there.

00:38:51.000 They said they were going to do this.

00:38:53.000 You then documented that they were.

00:38:54.000 They tried to claim in the news that they weren't doing it.

00:38:57.000 And then here you are catching them in the US and in England doing it.

00:39:01.000 Correct.

00:39:02.000 And what I did was I figured, how could they possibly deny this?

00:39:06.000 I mean, it's here plain as day.

00:39:08.000 But just to be on the safe side, I bought a disposable camera at the Walmart and I took a few pictures of it.

00:39:13.000 And later I was just astonished that Walmart had the nerve to say, you know, we don't have any kind of a shelf like that.

00:39:19.000 Gillette backed up their story and said, you know, we don't know what you're talking about.

00:39:23.000 This is after Gillette initially admitted it and later came back and denied it.

00:39:27.000 It was just the whole thing was crazy.

00:39:28.000 So I was able to take those photographs that I had taken and share them with actually a reporter from the Boston Globe.

00:39:35.000 And he blew the story open.

00:39:37.000 So they at that point had egg on their face.

00:39:40.000 And you know what?

00:39:41.000 The absolutely crowning piece of this whole little story was that their response, once they were confronted with this evidence, was to say, Oh, that shelf!

00:39:51.000 Oh, that shelf!

00:39:52.000 Oh, yeah, that shelf in the Brockton store.

00:39:53.000 Well, we never plugged that in.

00:39:57.000 And that was in their press releases, that was in the news.

00:40:00.000 So my point is, now I've got an RFID company, AIM North, and again, they could be right, we could be wrong.

00:40:06.000 All I know is, is that Euros and certain new 20s really do do this, and we'd like to know why.

00:40:11.000 And what do you know about AIM North?

00:40:13.000 And we've got Burt Moore, one of their consultants, coming on in the next hour.

00:40:17.000 I hope you'll stay with us.

00:40:18.000 I mean, what do you make of this?

00:40:20.000 Well, you know, there's definitely been a PR war going on, I think, for the last year over the RFID issue.

00:40:27.000 AIM Global, I don't know if they've changed their name, but I know that it's AIM Global.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, this is the AIM North office, and the company is AIM Global, yes.

00:40:36.000 Okay, well, we've butted heads in the past.

00:40:39.000 They have made some statements about our organization that were inaccurate, and we corrected those on our website at spychips.com.

00:40:47.000 I would definitely say that AIM Global is an organization that is very much pro-RFID.

00:40:56.000 Their role, I guess, is to be a PR mouthpiece for the industry and to say positive things about RFID and to try to defuse any kind of scandal or negative taint that comes over the industry.

00:41:08.000 Now we've also got Michelin now for a year putting them in the tires.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, I think Michelin is probably, at this point, the most egregious offense happening right here in the United States because all of the other trials have been stopped.

00:41:22.000 We've pretty much routed them out of the retail stores.

00:41:25.000 I don't know.

00:41:26.000 We're finding... I mean, I'm open package and little black dots dump out.

00:41:29.000 I mean, it's... I mean, I get emails every day of this stuff.

00:41:33.000 There's articles all the time, Catherine.

00:41:35.000 Well, that's why we're pushing, Alex, for legislation that would require labeling.

00:41:41.000 And we're trying to do that on a state-by-state basis.

00:41:43.000 And let's make it clear, they said they're going to put it, Walmart told the industries, they're the one in, what, 86 who finally got the barcode standardized.

00:41:54.000 They're telling all of their suppliers, we want it.

00:41:56.000 The Pentagon came out last year and said, if you're going to sell to us, you've got to have it.

00:42:00.000 Then they try to deny it.

00:42:01.000 I mean, there's an industry PowerPoint presentation that shows an image of it from at the factory to the warehouse to the store to

00:42:08.000 your home to the landfill and they still try to deny what they're

00:42:11.000 doing, Catherine.

00:42:12.000 Well, you know, it's interesting. I think that initially in those early phases

00:42:16.000 when all this was happening behind closed doors and we consumers didn't even

00:42:20.000 know that they were doing this research, they really did have a plan of putting this on everything

00:42:24.000 fairly quickly so that, you know, the items in your refrigerator would be

00:42:28.000 beaming back information about themselves to the store for reordering.

00:42:32.000 Ma'am, you found the public document that they actually leaked out and became public, where they said that 78% of people don't like this, but they're passive and we've just got to do it and they'll just submit.

00:42:43.000 Absolutely, it's really disgusting what they were writing back in those days.

00:42:50.000 What has happened since, Alex, I think, is Well, once they tried to go public with this, they met with so much public resistance because of that 78% majority, and that's a vast majority of people, who have time after time made it very clear to the industry that they do not want to be tracked through the products and services that they buy.

00:43:08.000 So what they've done is, rather than retreat altogether, they've said, well, what we'll do in the next couple of years is we will make our focus on supply side inventory control, moving things from warehouses and factories and back rooms.

00:43:23.000 The consumer will never even need to see these products, at least at the present moment.

00:43:28.000 Now, if you dig a little deeper into their documentation, they absolutely have long-term plans to put these on every physical item.

00:43:34.000 And three years ago they said by 2004 all Walmart products would have it.

00:43:38.000 That was USA Today, but now they're behind schedule thanks to you and others.

00:43:42.000 Well, and what is going to happen?

00:43:45.000 Walmart, Target recently issued a mandate and so did Albertsons, one of the biggest grocery chains in America.

00:43:50.000 They've all issued mandates now in recent months to their suppliers saying you must have them on your crates and pallets.

00:43:57.000 And what that's doing is that is stimulating this RFID industry with billions of dollars

00:44:01.000 of investment capital.

00:44:02.000 And that's creating the sales relationship between the RFID industry and the suppliers.

00:44:06.000 Yes, that's enormous.

00:44:08.000 It definitely is doing that.

00:44:10.000 And in fact, one industry analyst suggested to me that for each of Walmart's top 100 suppliers

00:44:16.000 to comply with that is going to cost between $200 and $250 million per company.

00:44:21.000 And so by Walmart and the Pentagon making their suppliers do this, it is building the infrastructure.

00:44:27.000 Then you have the meeting last year with Ridge and the CEOs where they, where the CEOs say we want this for Homeland Security, so we have the link established.

00:44:35.000 This is Big Brother.

00:44:36.000 Yes, and that actually is accurate.

00:44:39.000 The Director of Homeland Security, Tom Ridge, did meet With the directors of the Auto ID Center.

00:44:44.000 We're not quite sure what they discussed in that meeting, but I think we can pretty much surmise that there are definitely Homeland Security interests involved.

00:44:52.000 Well, I had you on last year and you said you actually got one of their documents.

00:44:56.000 I'm going from memory here.

00:44:56.000 My memory is pretty accurate.

00:44:58.000 And that they were bringing it to RIDGE saying, we want this to be sold as a Homeland Security measure.

00:45:03.000 Yeah, that was actually Larry Kellum of Procter & Gamble.

00:45:06.000 He's no longer with the company.

00:45:08.000 But he has commented in an industry conference I attended When someone asked him, what will it take for this technology to really take off?

00:45:14.000 And he said, what it'll take is for Homeland Security to say that this is a step we must take to protect the food supply.

00:45:20.000 What is the Babylon system?

00:45:22.000 You said that they went, at the meeting there was lots of weird names, weird biblical names, and then they brought up the Babylon system?

00:45:30.000 Yeah, you know Alex, to be honest with you, it's been about a year since that one, and that's not one that I have pursued, but there definitely was talk about the Holy Grail and And they had deputized evangelists at one of these events that would go out and talk about the benefits of RFID to business executives.

00:45:46.000 So there definitely has been quite a bit of, I think, kind of strange religious terminology with regard to this.

00:45:54.000 One thing I think is fairly certain, though, is that billions of dollars stand to be made from this technology.

00:46:00.000 And to the extent that they can get consumers to accept it, or perhaps Have it slipped into their environment and not be aware of it.

00:46:07.000 I think that obviously there's money to be made by doing that.

00:46:10.000 What we're pushing for is saying that right now we run a very serious risk.

00:46:14.000 And Alex, I'm sure you get a lot of these packages in the mail from people who say, I shopped at my local Target and I think there's an RFID tag on my DVD that I bought, or this tag was in the pocket of the new pants that I bought.

00:46:26.000 And so people mail us these things.

00:46:28.000 And the problem is that there's really no way for the average consumer to know, is that an RFID tag?

00:46:34.000 If so, what is its read range?

00:46:35.000 How far away can it be read?

00:46:36.000 Who put it there?

00:46:37.000 There needs to be labeling!

00:46:39.000 We must have that.

00:46:40.000 That is the absolute crucial beginning point.

00:46:42.000 Well, I want to get back just briefly to RFIDs and the money.

00:46:47.000 Now, when they came out with the new 20s last year, there were news articles showing all the new security measures, anti-counterfeiting measures, and they had different areas, and then they also mentioned there are several classified security measures that we won't tell you about in the money.

00:47:02.000 And all I know is we got this story sent to us by listeners, We stuck Euros, because again my webmaster in England over there, stuck Euros in, right in the middle, it popped in three seconds, started burning, and we have those photos up.

00:47:16.000 I stuck money in, and one microwave it browned, and another it popped and caught on fire.

00:47:21.000 And again, I don't have a scientific lab, I don't know, but my old twenties don't do this, Catherine, so I don't know what's going on.

00:47:28.000 Well, and I'm afraid to say, join the club, because I think most people looking into this $20 bill story have said, well, there's no, as far as I'm concerned, I haven't seen any real definitive evidence that there is RFID.

00:47:45.000 in the current twenty dollar bill.

00:47:47.000 So I, you know, I'm a person I really do need to see that absolutely irrefutable evidence.

00:47:51.000 But you have seen the government, Katherine, you have seen the government statements

00:47:55.000 where they have said that the Euro plans to put them in, that there's plans to do it in other countries,

00:47:59.000 that some other nations are moving to do this.

00:48:02.000 Right, and I think that's what brings us to the more important question.

00:48:05.000 And the important question is would it be appropriate or would it be inappropriate

00:48:09.000 to put RFID tracking devices that could identify...

00:48:12.000 Well the EU said they're doing it, the EU said they're doing it, going to do it a year ago,

00:48:17.000 and now the EU dollar pops.

00:48:20.000 And then I noticed when AIM put out this press release, the RFID maker, they said, oh, we put an RFID in, and in two and a half seconds, you know, it did pop.

00:48:29.000 But the 20 didn't.

00:48:30.000 They don't say if it's a new 20 or an old 20.

00:48:33.000 Well, and obviously you'll have to talk to AIM about exactly how they conducted their experiments.

00:48:38.000 What I can say, and I think the bigger issue here, is that the government of Japan has stated that it will, not might, but will be putting RFID tracking devices into high-currency yen notes.

00:48:50.000 And I think that already started, by the way.

00:48:53.000 Perhaps on an experimental level, I think they were... I saw that months ago, yeah.

00:48:57.000 ...within the next year to have that completed.

00:48:59.000 That's a very serious issue because If you do put an RFID device into currency, even if the read range is short, even if the read range is a couple of centimeters, which is what you're likely to see with that technology, what it brings up is the possibility that that cash will no longer be anonymous.

00:49:17.000 So now imagine you go into your bank or your ATM and you pull out a bunch of, I'll say this in American currency, you pull out a bunch of $20 bills.

00:49:26.000 If they were tagged with RFID, It would be possible to capture those tag numbers and link them to your identity.

00:49:32.000 And that will track the history of that money.

00:49:34.000 Now let me bring this up for you.

00:49:35.000 A key piece of research.

00:49:36.000 You can use your LexisNexis for it.

00:49:38.000 I need to find this.

00:49:38.000 I covered it many times on the air.

00:49:40.000 Back in 98, we're now talking 6 years ago.

00:49:42.000 Hard to believe.

00:49:43.000 The Federal Reserve Policy Board of Virginia said That they could already use the magnetic strip that was already being put in the money starting in 98, that long strip you can pull out, to scan at the bank and at stores the history of the transactions, and that if you didn't keep the money in the bank, they could then devalue it over a year.

00:50:02.000 Now, that's the Federal Reserve.

00:50:04.000 Number one, were you aware of that?

00:50:06.000 And number two, I mean, that is a form of tracking right there.

00:50:10.000 Right.

00:50:10.000 And actually, I would be happy to pull up the documentation on that, which I have myself, and I've actually written on that.

00:50:16.000 And put it in some PowerPoint presentations that I've done.

00:50:19.000 It never was adopted, but it was proposed by a high-ranking official of the Federal Reserve.

00:50:25.000 It was called the Carry Tax, I believe.

00:50:29.000 And the notion here was that the cash itself would decline in value the longer you held on to it.

00:50:35.000 And it was a measure to discourage people from hoarding cash or holding on to cash.

00:50:39.000 But also they said they could track the history of the money.

00:50:41.000 Did you see that part?

00:50:42.000 Well, this was all theoretical, though, Alex.

00:50:44.000 That's the important piece.

00:50:45.000 They had not yet actually done it.

00:50:47.000 But that's what the strip is able to do.

00:50:49.000 Well, that was the point of this guy's proposal, but it did not link into any... Okay, that's key.

00:50:56.000 Stay right there, Katherine.

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00:57:05.000 Well, that is very, very exciting.

00:57:07.000 We've got Burt Moore.

00:57:08.000 Do you know who he is?

00:57:10.000 Hi Bert!

00:57:11.000 Well, I mean, he's not here yet.

00:57:12.000 He's coming up.

00:57:13.000 I mean, do you know who Bert is?

00:57:15.000 Yeah, well, I certainly am familiar with AIM Global and I think I've spoken to several members of their staff.

00:57:19.000 I think Bert and I have corresponded via email in the past.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, well, we'll be talking to them.

00:57:27.000 What are some of the questions we should ask Mr. Moore?

00:57:30.000 Well, I think that the bigger question on the story that they've circulated today, which essentially dismisses out of hand the idea that a $20 bill might contain When the government's saying they're planning to do it.

00:57:42.000 Well, our government hasn't come out specifically to say that.

00:57:45.000 Well, the Japanese and the EU and yeah, I actually may have missed it.

00:57:48.000 I've seen our government discuss it.

00:57:49.000 Absolutely.

00:57:49.000 So I think that's the bigger question is, well, why should we have to go through all of this rigmarole to determine Whether or not there is.

00:57:59.000 Well, why are we weird to ask the question?

00:58:02.000 Why are we bad when they're saying this is the plan?

00:58:05.000 Why are we weird to then be paranoid about it?

00:58:09.000 I would absolutely agree with you, Alex, because there has been quite a bit of discussion about putting these RFID devices into everything.

00:58:16.000 And so I think the bigger question is, you know, what responsibility does the U.S.

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00:58:26.000 And why is it that we as citizens don't feel comfortable to simply go directly to the horse's mouth and say, hey, are you doing it or not?

00:58:33.000 And, you know, what does that say about, you know, about their trust of the public that they probably wouldn't tell us if and when they got to the point of action?

00:58:40.000 All right.

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01:00:35.000 This is a quick little five-minute segment.

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01:00:39.000 This morning I got up getting ready for the show, and there's this email that Declan McCullough forwarded to me.

01:00:43.000 We've had him on the show many times.

01:00:44.000 Great technology writer.

01:00:46.000 RFID industry tries to debunk exploding $20 bill and he puts out their press release.

01:00:51.000 Which I think, you know, the press release has some good questions and it makes some good points about how they put a tag in there and it did pop and explode in three seconds, two seconds or three seconds, which is what we found.

01:01:05.000 And governments have talked about putting these in the money.

01:01:08.000 This is going on.

01:01:09.000 Are they in there yet?

01:01:10.000 All I know is we got this email, this story.

01:01:13.000 I went and tested it in one microwave, didn't have it.

01:01:15.000 Put it in another one, more high power.

01:01:17.000 It did pop.

01:01:17.000 I turned it off.

01:01:18.000 I didn't want to have a fire on my hands.

01:01:21.000 And we put Euros in a microwave.

01:01:23.000 They popped in the exact same spot.

01:01:25.000 And the EU said they're going to do it.

01:01:28.000 Are they already doing it?

01:01:29.000 Do some of the new 20s have it?

01:01:30.000 Do all new 20s have it?

01:01:31.000 Or is it in none of them?

01:01:33.000 Maybe suddenly cotton in the center of a bill pops like a firecracker when you put it in the microwave.

01:01:39.000 But joining us is Burt Moore, and he's a consultant, I guess a spokesperson, obviously, for AIM Global.

01:01:46.000 And, Burt, thanks for coming on the show.

01:01:48.000 We appreciate it.

01:01:49.000 Oh, thanks for the opportunity to be here.

01:01:50.000 You bet.

01:01:51.000 Tell us about AIM Global, and tell us about your whole take on this.

01:01:57.000 Well, AIM Global is the international association for the providers of AIDC technology, which includes barcode and radio frequency identification.

01:02:09.000 And I was actually the one that did the testing and wrote the news release.

01:02:13.000 And basically... So you're probably an engineer then?

01:02:17.000 Well, no, I'm actually just applying a little bit of common sense here.

01:02:20.000 Oh, you're not?

01:02:21.000 So you didn't have one of your engineers do the test?

01:02:24.000 No.

01:02:25.000 Why not?

01:02:25.000 I bet you got a lot of them.

01:02:27.000 Well, actually, we do have a lot of engineers in the member companies.

01:02:32.000 The idea was to replicate what anyone could do at home.

01:02:36.000 And so, since most of the people out there are not engineers, what better than to just take a $20 bill, throw it in the microwave, and see if it explodes?

01:02:45.000 Now, did you take a new, sir?

01:02:46.000 Did you take a new $20 bill or an old one?

01:02:49.000 A new one, of course.

01:02:50.000 Okay, good.

01:02:52.000 As a matter of fact, the news release did have some JPEGs attached to it, which I'm not sure you got.

01:02:58.000 No, I didn't, but now we've got them.

01:02:59.000 Thanks.

01:02:59.000 That answers the question.

01:03:00.000 Okay, yeah.

01:03:02.000 I just learned of this right before I went on air.

01:03:04.000 I'm sorry?

01:03:04.000 I just got your press release before I went on air.

01:03:06.000 Ah, okay.

01:03:07.000 You know, and you can see that, well, I didn't put in a JPEG of an undamaged 20, because there's no way to prove that that was microwave.

01:03:18.000 Uh, but I did take a little laundry tag, the kind that are used by commercial laundries, have a very short range, maybe 18 inches, optimally.

01:03:26.000 Uh, put it on top of the 20 after having microwaved the 20 for a minute.

01:03:31.000 Uh, nothing happened, it got a little, little warm, but that was the whole bill.

01:03:36.000 Okay, well I'm going to post a video of them catching on fire.

01:03:40.000 Okay.

01:03:41.000 Okay.

01:03:45.000 Oops, let me go to a website here.

01:03:49.000 So you're going to your data.

01:03:50.000 Well, we're about to break here in a second, so we'll have plenty of time.

01:03:53.000 We appreciate you, Mr. Moore, coming on in such short notice.

01:03:56.000 So you conducted the test yourself?

01:03:58.000 Yes, I did.

01:03:59.000 I was just going to go to your website.

01:04:02.000 Okay.

01:04:06.000 So I put the little laundry tag on there, and within two seconds, You know, I should have turned out the lights and invited people over because it was spectacular.

01:04:15.000 Yeah, that's what we've been getting, you know.

01:04:17.000 Uh, but the bill... Hey, isn't it funny that what we described is exactly what you got with the tag?

01:04:23.000 Yeah, except it didn't happen with the bill.

01:04:25.000 But of course it'll happen with the tag because it has a conductive antenna.

01:04:29.000 Well, we had no idea.

01:04:30.000 Well, I mean, the RFID tag has an antenna.

01:04:35.000 Has to have an antenna if you're going to communicate.

01:04:38.000 Otherwise, it would be like having the most powerful Pentium chip in the world, but not having it connected to a computer.

01:04:42.000 No, I understand.

01:04:43.000 Well, stay there, sir.

01:04:43.000 We've got a quick little break coming up.

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01:04:46.000 We're honored to have you.

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01:08:18.000 Just a program note before we go back to Burt Moore, a spokesman and also a consultant for AIM Global, a big RFID and barcode, I guess, sales company.

01:08:31.000 But before we do that, again, I'm seen as a conservative, pro-Second Amendment, pro-border, anti-UN, but I'm honored to be invited to speak, and I really was invited a month ago, I should have talked more about this, this Saturday at Crawford, Texas at a huge anti-war rally, and I'm the speaker after Ralph Nader!

01:08:49.000 Yes, that's right, I was invited, and I've been on Free Speech TV nationally.

01:08:56.000 I mean, I appreciate this new wave of what you'd call the left.

01:08:59.000 A lot of them are pro-gun.

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01:09:10.000 Crawford, Texas this Saturday, I speak at like 7 o'clock at night after Ralph Nader there at the park in downtown Crawford.

01:09:17.000 So you definitely want to come out for that.

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01:09:21.000 Be like Congressman Ron Paul, a real conservative, who's against this war and speaking out against it.

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01:09:29.000 Then I'll be speaking someday to the Distinguished Speakers Series for the Libertarians in the big hall at UT.

01:09:37.000 They've had folks like Harry Brown in to speak, and senators and everybody else, and I'm honored to be speaking at that event.

01:09:43.000 So that's coming up this weekend here in Central Texas.

01:09:47.000 Going back to Burt Moore, And again, this is the whole exploding $20 bill story we put out three weeks ago that became the biggest story on the internet for one day, which we've never done before.

01:09:56.000 I thought it was just a minor story.

01:09:58.000 Hey, look at this.

01:09:59.000 And it just exploded after being on the net about four or five days.

01:10:03.000 Less than a week.

01:10:04.000 I was talking to Burt Moore during the break.

01:10:06.000 They tested a new $20.

01:10:08.000 They're at their offices, and they're an RFID company again, and it got hot but didn't turn brown, didn't pop, didn't explode.

01:10:15.000 They did put an RFID in then, and it did indeed do what we saw happen with Euros with 20s. 0.93

01:10:21.000 Some microwaves doesn't happen for some reason, some new 20s doesn't happen, some of them it does.

01:10:26.000 And I said, you know, is there some metal in there?

01:10:28.000 Is it some other security feature?

01:10:30.000 We don't know.

01:10:31.000 And so perhaps we should expand on that.

01:10:33.000 And he said, well, maybe it's magnetic ink.

01:10:35.000 And that rung a bell during the break.

01:10:37.000 I remember hearing them say, we've got to find the, it was a Wired News story a year ago, that the new 20s had magnetic security ink in them.

01:10:46.000 I remember that.

01:10:47.000 Could that be it?

01:10:48.000 I just want the truth here.

01:10:50.000 Let's go back to Burt Moore, then we'll bring Catherine Albrecht up to have a discussion with him from Spychips.com.

01:10:58.000 Burt Moore, what do you think is going on here?

01:11:03.000 Well, to tell you the truth, I don't know, but I'd like to quickly clarify.

01:11:05.000 AIM Global is a trade association, and our member companies are the ones that are manufacturers and integrators.

01:11:12.000 Okay, because we got into that earlier.

01:11:14.000 You said you had a bunch of people you represented, so you guys are kind of...

01:11:18.000 Are you guys hooked in with a big RFID website that's kind of the industry mouthpiece?

01:11:23.000 Yeah, the RFID.org?

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:26.000 That is the AIM Global website.

01:11:28.000 Oh, ah, yes.

01:11:29.000 Okay.

01:11:30.000 And by the way, I edit their electronic newsletter that you can sign up for for free through that website.

01:11:36.000 Okay!

01:11:37.000 And I did suggest that perhaps there is an unfortunate concentration of magnetic ink in there as an anti-counterfeiting measure.

01:11:48.000 The magnetic ink is would be anti-counterfeiting because it's very difficult to get the right stuff to make it just as it is the right paper, but counterfeiters seem to be getting more and more i created this now sir in your press release did you write

01:12:02.000 this press release if it did

01:12:03.000 uh... i mean i feel it gets the flavor of all this is wild this is

01:12:07.000 unsubstantiated this is whatever

01:12:09.000 and i mean certainly you've heard about japan the e-news saying they're going to

01:12:13.000 do this i've got the article we can post when we have all right i have uh... i

01:12:16.000 have that uh... i have an article on it myself ok so i mean

01:12:21.000 somebody puts a twenty and explodes or you can't just on fire and pops

01:12:25.000 We do it, it happens in some microwaves, and we're saying, you know, exploding RFID.

01:12:29.000 Maybe it is the magnetic ink, but, I mean, certainly we're normal to be concerned about this, aren't we?

01:12:35.000 Well, the kind of RF that you could put in there, I mean, the simple way to test, hold it up to a really bright light, see if you can find a chip or an antenna or something that could Technically broadcast.

01:12:47.000 Well, there is the strip in there.

01:12:48.000 There is the magnetic strip.

01:12:49.000 That's not magnetic.

01:12:50.000 That's holographic.

01:12:52.000 Uh, no.

01:12:53.000 I've got the Federal Reserve's statements on that.

01:12:55.000 They said they could even use it to devalue money you don't keep in the bank.

01:12:59.000 They could scan it.

01:13:00.000 Yeah, but magnetic does not transmit.

01:13:03.000 The concern... What I'm saying is they read that.

01:13:05.000 A reader scans it.

01:13:07.000 By contact, yes.

01:13:09.000 Okay.

01:13:09.000 I mean, that's official Federal Reserve.

01:13:11.000 Let's bring Catherine Albrecht up from, of course, nocards.org, exposing that, and spychips.com, done incredible work.

01:13:18.000 I'm sure you're familiar with Catherine Albrecht.

01:13:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:21.000 We've spoken before.

01:13:22.000 Catherine, you're on with Burt Moore.

01:13:24.000 Do you have any comments or questions?

01:13:25.000 Hey, Burt.

01:13:26.000 Well, yeah, I have to say, I think the bigger question here is really one of, is it appropriate to be putting RFID tags in currency?

01:13:36.000 And that's really the question I would ask AIM.

01:13:38.000 That's the question I would ask really any of these companies.

01:13:41.000 Hitachi, Texas Instruments, a lot of the companies that are talking about these types of applications for RFID.

01:13:48.000 I actually haven't ever seen a statement from AIM Global on the appropriateness or non-appropriateness of putting RFID tags into currency.

01:13:57.000 So I'd actually like to get Bert's thoughts on that.

01:13:59.000 Do you think it would be an appropriate thing to do?

01:14:03.000 It depends on The purpose of it.

01:14:05.000 If the purpose is to be a near-contact read to spot counterfeits, and what the EU is talking about is tracking organized crime, because they're only going to tag very, very large denomination bills.

01:14:19.000 500 euros, I believe, is the one.

01:14:21.000 Now that's how it always starts.

01:14:24.000 But if it's a near-contact read, in other words, simply to spot counterfeits, I think there's technologies that are better than RFID.

01:14:34.000 That can scan the history of the money and then create a history of the money.

01:14:38.000 The Federal Reserve even talked about that six years ago.

01:14:43.000 You're not going to put a history of the money on the money, no.

01:14:47.000 You could theoretically put the serial number on there, yes?

01:14:50.000 Yeah, and then track it and link it to the history of the individual where it first originated, scan at the ATM or bank when you get it.

01:14:58.000 Yeah, that's if you manage to scan it at every single transaction.

01:15:01.000 Well, Total Information Awareness Network, last year, before we got fired over it, said they want to track every purchase, have omnipresent knowledge, know everything we're doing.

01:15:12.000 I mean, that was in the news.

01:15:14.000 I personally can't agree with that, and I'm sure that... I cannot make a policy statement for all of our member companies.

01:15:23.000 I don't think that that's what they're looking at.

01:15:25.000 Well, if you're not an engineer, and I mean this in a friendly way, because I'm not either, and I came out with this and was asking the questions, how can you test it and then determine that there's not an RFID in it?

01:15:37.000 Well, again, I replicated what was reported.

01:15:42.000 I put it in a microwave and it didn't explode.

01:15:44.000 I think that's fair.

01:15:46.000 Did you try multiple microwaves?

01:15:47.000 No, I did not, and I shall.

01:15:50.000 I shall see if I can find a good Industrial.

01:15:52.000 As a matter of fact, I know where I can get a good industrial quality microwave.

01:15:56.000 Okay, well that's good.

01:15:57.000 I'd like to see what happens.

01:15:58.000 Yeah, so would I. Now, Catherine, I mean... Well, I think this debate is to come down to two central and critical key questions.

01:16:06.000 And one of them is, is it or is it not appropriate to tag cash with RFID?

01:16:11.000 And then the second question is, why is it that we, as citizens of a democratic nation, are reduced to having to put money into a microwave?

01:16:21.000 to determine whether or not it could potentially be used to track us.

01:16:25.000 That to me seems like the much bigger question and it addresses a much more fundamental issue

01:16:30.000 that is happening in our country right now.

01:16:32.000 It is also happening over the RFID industry and we are seeing the two converge here.

01:16:36.000 The RFID industry has a year-long history and actually I can pull up documents and demonstrate

01:16:41.000 a three-year-long history of essentially pulling the wool over people's eyes and engaging in

01:16:46.000 a lot of secretive and some would say deceptive practices involving consumers who did not know

01:16:52.000 that they were being used as guinea pigs for RFID technology.

01:16:56.000 The broader issue here is now if to the extent that RFID is being viewed by governments around the world and potentially here in the United States as a way to keep closer track of the citizenry The fact that we would automatically assume that we would not be told that, I think is worrisome.

01:17:15.000 And, you know, why do we not have a representative from the Federal Reserve who is addressing these fears and concerns right up front?

01:17:21.000 Why is the European Central Bank, in response to very legitimate questions from reporters, Answering that they will not discuss security features of currency with the public.

01:17:31.000 That, to me, seems to be the broader question.

01:17:33.000 We should not have to be burning up $20 bills left and right to get answers to these questions.

01:17:38.000 Well, my webmaster, his brother had him from visiting France, stuck him in the microwave, and in about three seconds, pop, boom, catch on fire.

01:17:48.000 I mean, and we've got the EU saying they're planning to do it, so I don't, I mean, could this be some type of beta testing, Burt Moore, by the Federal Reserve, by the EU, that they haven't announced in some of the bills, and that's why some of them do it and some don't?

01:18:04.000 Well, let me go back and answer one of Catherine's points.

01:18:09.000 I think the point is not, I agree with the point, should we be concerned about the government tagging?

01:18:16.000 Let's leave the Technology aside, because as you point out, we could use magnetic strike.

01:18:22.000 We could use a variety of things.

01:18:23.000 So let's take RFID out of the equation and say, should we be tagging at all?

01:18:28.000 That is a very legitimate question, and I am going to leave that to the policymakers to explain.

01:18:33.000 Catherine brings up some good points.

01:18:35.000 Why are people not responding?

01:18:38.000 As far as I say, we're not going to comment on security features.

01:18:42.000 To an extent, that's true.

01:18:44.000 You know, if you're going to be a counterfeiter, wouldn't it be nice to be able to log on to the European Bank website and find out all the security features that you have to counterfeit?

01:18:55.000 But should we be concerned?

01:18:57.000 Should we be concerned that we have to be concerned about this?

01:19:00.000 Yes?

01:19:03.000 Yeah, in part, I think the bigger question, though, is absolutely, and I would support a government saying, well, you know, we're not going to give you, we're not going to publish the specs of our hologram.

01:19:12.000 On our website, you can download it and replicate it at home.

01:19:15.000 I think it's a very different question, though, and one that goes far beyond authentication and counterfeiting.

01:19:20.000 They should explain their plan to us.

01:19:23.000 If cash becomes trackable and loses its fundamental feature in today's financial world, and that is the fact that cash is the only remaining payment method left to us that is anonymous.

01:19:34.000 And I am sure that the powers that be, that the Admiral Poindexter and the other folks who would like to institute these total information awareness programs would love to eliminate the anonymity of cash.

01:19:46.000 Well, they said they want to do that.

01:19:48.000 We've got a break.

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01:24:13.000 Could it be the magnetic ink that they admit is on these bills?

01:24:16.000 It could be.

01:24:18.000 Are governments saying they want to do this?

01:24:19.000 Yes, they are.

01:24:21.000 Is this a serious situation we need to get to the bottom of?

01:24:23.000 Yes.

01:24:24.000 And I think that both of our guests have a lot of great points to make and we appreciate Bert Moore coming on the show and Catherine Albrecht and you can go to the and global website and global dot o r g or are fighting on

01:24:40.000 or come of the mouthpiece we are by industry and i think we're that we're

01:24:43.000 are fighting going to

01:24:45.000 is scary with government involvement is big brother do i think that you know it wouldn't have some applications

01:24:50.000 i think you know that inherently it's evil

01:24:52.000 although i don't think guns are inherently evil but people can misuse

01:24:55.000 them our cars evil

01:24:57.000 No, but someone, a drunk driver, could use one.

01:24:59.000 And that's what we need to have as a debate and labeling, if RFID is on stuff, and it shouldn't be forced onto the industries in kind of a, I don't know what you'd call it, in a collusion by some elements of industry onto the manufacturers.

01:25:15.000 What do you say to that, Bert Moore?

01:25:17.000 Then we'll get a comment from Catherine Albrecht.

01:25:19.000 Well, basically I agree.

01:25:23.000 The EPC Global, which is the organization that is commercializing EPC for the supply chain, is developing a logo to be placed on all items that have RFID tags on them.

01:25:39.000 AIM Global is also working on a generic label to indicate that there is the presence of an RFID tag.

01:25:47.000 Will it also state what that tag, capabilities are and how to remove it or deactivate it?

01:25:54.000 I cannot speak for EPC Global.

01:25:59.000 The recommendations that have been already Proposed are that the tags should be visible, should be identified, and should be either removable or deactivated.

01:26:09.000 Because if I've got one article, I've got a thousand where they were saying five years ago, three years ago, that it was going to be woven into clothes.

01:26:17.000 Yeah, it's, that's somewhere in the future you might be able to do that.

01:26:21.000 I think you just cut the hole in my clothes.

01:26:24.000 Catherine Holbrook comments to what he's saying, and then I've got a business owner.

01:26:27.000 I remember when this came out last year, and I'm trying to find it, but the business owner has it, where they told business owners about what's in the new 20.

01:26:35.000 But Catherine, comments to what he just said.

01:26:37.000 Well, this idea of coming up with a logo is a fascinating one, and I think in part it's in response to some legislation that's recently been proposed in three states, California, Utah, and Missouri.

01:26:50.000 All three of which are looking to move forward with legislation that actually Kastian had authored called the RFID Right to Know Act of 2003.

01:26:58.000 Both the Utah and Missouri legislation were patterned after our sample legislation.

01:27:02.000 And I remember there was some resistance at first from these guys.

01:27:06.000 Yes there was and it's interesting because up in Utah they actually got an amendment to the bill passed through the House of Representatives in the state of Utah.

01:27:14.000 This was industry lobbyists.

01:27:16.000 I'm not sure if AIM Global sent someone there or not.

01:27:19.000 Maybe you can answer that.

01:27:22.000 Essentially, what the lobbyists wanted was, we don't want to have to post your language for what RFID is.

01:27:28.000 We want to have the option of putting a logo on there instead.

01:27:31.000 What's so fascinating about this was, back last summer when we uncovered all those confidential documents from the industry consortium, Yeah, we'll make them submit.

01:27:39.000 RFID. You know, the things we talked about, people being apathetic and bringing people

01:27:44.000 into their inner circle and co-opting people.

01:27:46.000 Yeah, we'll make them submit. Yeah, 78% don't like it, but yeah.

01:27:50.000 That's it. And amongst those documents were some public relations strategy documents that

01:27:57.000 talked about using a logo as a way to get consumers to accept this.

01:28:01.000 One of the things they talked about, and I think you'll feel equally disgusted by it as me, was actually calling it a green tag.

01:28:08.000 And talking about it's better for the environment, it's more efficient, it's more friendly, it's all these wonderful things.

01:28:13.000 You know, I can't wait to see the logo that they come up with, but I half imagine sort of a daisy with a little rainbow over it or something.

01:28:20.000 Well, I'll tell you what, we've got some callers that want to address this.

01:28:25.000 I know you're both busy.

01:28:25.000 Can you do maybe five more minutes on the other side, Bert, so you can respond to what she just said and so we can take a call or two?

01:28:31.000 Sure thing.

01:28:32.000 Catherine, is that cool with you?

01:28:34.000 That's great.

01:28:34.000 Okay, we've got a break here in a moment.

01:28:36.000 Do you want to go ahead in the minute we've got before we break and respond to what she just said?

01:28:43.000 Actually, no.

01:28:44.000 AIM did not send a lobbyist.

01:28:46.000 AIM is drafting a policy statement that does say that personal information should never be associated with a tag.

01:28:54.000 On the tag, what happens in a database, we can't control.

01:28:58.000 But, basically, we're going to be drafting an official policy statement along the lines of the legislation that you proposed, because a lot of that stuff is perfectly good common sense.

01:29:09.000 But, Bert, my question is, why wasn't that done beforehand when the industry was trying to make this universal?

01:29:15.000 Well, you have to realize that this has not been moving forward under one stewardship.

01:29:22.000 A lot of the stuff that was uncovered came out of the Auto-ID Center at MIT.

01:29:28.000 A lot of things that were done there were done, I think, in a... Go ahead, sir.

01:29:37.000 His line dropped when he talked about MIT.

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01:33:05.000 We're back live.

01:33:06.000 Got a lot of callers here.

01:33:07.000 Do a few more minutes on this RFID and let our guests go and continue with your calls on any issue you'd like to discuss and a bunch of other news.

01:33:14.000 Danny in Tennessee says he's a restaurant owner and got information on what's, you know, the security features in the new 20s.

01:33:20.000 I remember this came out last year.

01:33:22.000 And I didn't have time to dig it up before I came to the studio.

01:33:25.000 But, Danny, you got info from the U.S.

01:33:28.000 government on the security features in the New 20.

01:33:30.000 What did that pamphlet that you still have say?

01:33:35.000 I got it about a year ago.

01:33:37.000 And, of course, it was a little thing selling the New 20s.

01:33:41.000 And I believe it was from the Department of the Treasury.

01:33:44.000 And I posted up on my... I've got a bulletin board in the back that I post New World Order info for my employees to keep them aware of what's going on.

01:33:52.000 And, uh, when that very first came out, I said, well, you know, this is probably the RFID tags they're putting in here.

01:33:58.000 So I started popping them in my microwave oven.

01:34:01.000 And of course, several of them popped.

01:34:03.000 And, uh, it talks about... I can't remember exactly what it says.

01:34:07.000 I don't have it in front of me.

01:34:08.000 I'm not at work right now.

01:34:10.000 But it talks about the magnetic strips and all the new security features and everything in it.

01:34:15.000 And from memory it said magnetic ink.

01:34:17.000 Do you remember that?

01:34:18.000 Yes, I do remember that.

01:34:19.000 I do remember it talking about a magnetic strip or something in it.

01:34:23.000 And when I saw that, you know, my take on the whole thing is they're setting this up for when they go cashless.

01:34:29.000 That if there's any kind of underground economy with money, that they'll be able to track that money.

01:34:35.000 But I'd be glad to mail you the pamphlet.

01:34:37.000 I don't need any more.

01:34:39.000 Uh, yeah, and I'd like to have somebody else do the test, not just us.

01:34:42.000 Why don't you hook a video camera up and do it again?

01:34:44.000 I don't have a video camera.

01:34:47.000 I bet one of our employees does.

01:34:49.000 Yeah, I'll check and see if one of them does, and I'll email you the clip, but I've done it several times in my mind.

01:34:54.000 Yeah, and say, hey, you know, wave the camera.

01:34:56.000 This is Danny in Tennessee.

01:34:57.000 Turn the, you know, turn the camera towards the microwave and go, doot, doot, doot, doot.

01:35:00.000 And what's funny is, uh, I took a couple of the bills to the bank in my deposit.

01:35:05.000 And the bank lady asked me about it, and she said, oh, I've gotten a lot of these lately.

01:35:09.000 She said, I don't understand what's going on with these bills.

01:35:12.000 And I said, well, this is just one I got from a customer.

01:35:14.000 I said, people are microwaving them.

01:35:15.000 I'm popping the chips in them.

01:35:18.000 Oh, so she said she was getting bills that had popped.

01:35:20.000 Yeah, I guess a lot of people listen to your show and then sing it on the internet.

01:35:25.000 What did the bills do?

01:35:26.000 I mean, what happened when you... In my microwave, I've done it in my commercial microwave at work, and I've done it at home.

01:35:35.000 The commercial microwave, it basically just pops instantly, and it'll catch on fire a little bit, and I've got to shut the microwave off real quick, wait for the bill off, get the fire to go out, and then in my microwave at home, it takes a few more seconds.

01:35:49.000 Well, I really got to say, I recommend you don't do that, and I recommend others don't do it, because it's, again, we didn't do this up front.

01:35:55.000 We got sent the information, Uh, from people, uh, who were in a store, had just gotten a bunch of twenties, and it was making the security system go off, they said.

01:36:06.000 So then they said, my goodness, what's in this, and tested it, and it did happen.

01:36:09.000 And again, we've tested it, so has the RFID consortium group we've got on.

01:36:13.000 It didn't happen for them, didn't happen for me in a small microwave, did happen in a big microwave.

01:36:17.000 Do you have any comments, Burt Moore, from AIM Global, the big, I guess, RFID promotional PR firm.

01:36:25.000 Is that a good term?

01:36:27.000 We are a trade association.

01:36:29.000 Okay, a trade association.

01:36:31.000 Burt, what do you have to say to the gentleman in Tennessee?

01:36:35.000 Boy, I'd love to see a copy of that as well, and I'd love to see the video.

01:36:39.000 So what are you going to do when a bunch of, I mean, a bunch of video services with different people going, I'm Billy from Kansas.

01:36:47.000 I'm Jimmy from Texas.

01:36:48.000 I'm Jeanette from New York.

01:36:52.000 And here's the video.

01:36:52.000 I mean, what's going to happen if all this gets brought forward?

01:36:56.000 Well, I think the government is going to have to explain what's going on.

01:36:59.000 This is not a conspiracy of the RFID community.

01:37:06.000 Basically, the technology I don't believe it's extremely well suited for paper, simply because there's a chip, it makes a bump, you have to have an antenna.

01:37:20.000 If you're going to track money, do it with a magnetic stripe.

01:37:24.000 Can I jump in here?

01:37:25.000 Oh, sure, Catherine.

01:37:26.000 Thanks for holding.

01:37:27.000 Yeah, you know, there's actually, if you do search for RFID and paper authentication or paper counterfeiting, just in Google, you will come back with a whole bunch of companies that have come out with other alternatives, because as... Yeah, they call it smart paper.

01:37:41.000 They call it smart paper.

01:37:43.000 Yeah, well, as Bert points out, a chip-based RFID tag, which has the traditional chip in the antenna, I guess we can call something that's new traditional, That probably would not be the best application.

01:37:56.000 But the antenna can lay down sideways and be in the paper.

01:38:01.000 Well, sure it could, but I'm actually agreeing with Bert that that probably wouldn't be your best way to do it.

01:38:06.000 It wouldn't be the cheapest way to do it.

01:38:08.000 But there are other methods out there that essentially use radio frequency identification.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, I've seen that about putting it in the paper.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:38:16.000 So, I would ask Bert, and perhaps the folks at AIM Global, and maybe some engineers out there in the RFID community, What are some of the other paper tagging technologies that may be more efficient or more appropriate for tagging something like currency?

01:38:30.000 Because I'm with you.

01:38:31.000 I don't think, I think the cost and the payoff would probably be way out of whack in terms of doing this on paper currency today using that technology.

01:38:40.000 But what about, you know, there's a company out there called ENCODE, I-N-K-O-D-E, which I would encourage our listeners, you know, just take a look at what they're up to. 0.85

01:38:48.000 They've come up with ways of making paper remotely trackable with RFID, putting unique serial numbers on them without even using RFID chips.

01:38:55.000 We've got to get that article posted.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, that ENCODE is not really RFID.

01:39:03.000 It does use sort of a magnetic signature.

01:39:07.000 Basically, you disperse little magnetic particles across any surface And it creates a unique magnetic surface or signature when you hit it with energy.

01:39:20.000 Again, it's not a transmitting one.

01:39:23.000 It really is much more magnetic.

01:39:24.000 Now, I remember they said they put magnetic ink in some of it.

01:39:27.000 I mean, look at the new 20s.

01:39:28.000 It's a shiny, crystalline-looking, heavier ink.

01:39:32.000 That could be what is doing this.

01:39:34.000 Well, there is a color-changing ink that you will see in the denomination in the lower right-hand corner, maybe elsewhere.

01:39:42.000 I mean, if you tilt it to the light, it'll go from sort of gold to green and back and forth.

01:39:48.000 I'm not sure if that is... Well, that's not the area that's... That's not the area that's been affected.

01:39:54.000 It's a crisp thing, yes.

01:39:57.000 You know, I agree with Catherine.

01:39:59.000 It's perhaps time for the Treasury to make some statement.

01:40:05.000 Well, maybe if you put that on your website it will, because I think we're asking reasonable questions here.

01:40:09.000 I mean, we could be wrong about it being RFID, but I think, you know, I don't want to have this all be some nasty argument.

01:40:15.000 I think we need to get to the bottom of it.

01:40:17.000 I would agree with that, and I am, as we speak, I'm writing an article for the next e-newsletter on this, and I think that's a perfectly reasonable question.

01:40:27.000 Although, I think perhaps the question that has to also be asked is how effective Tracking of individual bills is going to be.

01:40:36.000 Let's say I get a new 20 from the bank.

01:40:38.000 I give it to Catherine.

01:40:39.000 Catherine gives it to you.

01:40:40.000 You spend it at a convenience store.

01:40:44.000 Assuming that the convenience store then reads that, or it's read at the bank, I don't see a trail there.

01:40:53.000 Well, let me posit a worrisome concern here.

01:40:58.000 There's been some recent articles, I'm thinking one that came out on World Net Daily recently, But there's a push to move us away from income tax towards national sales tax.

01:41:07.000 And actually, trackable currency would be a perfect enforcement tool for a national sales tax, because what that would mean is, you know, Bert, I couldn't go over to your yard sale and buy the sailboat out of your backyard for $500 cash and skip paying the, you know, what will probably be 20, 30, 40% sales tax on that.

01:41:25.000 Because somehow that cash that now, at that point, you would then have my $500 and go and try to spend it at Walmart and it wouldn't match up with you.

01:41:34.000 So I think long term, and we're not talking next year.

01:41:37.000 We're definitely talking way in a technological future here.

01:41:41.000 But certainly, if we move from a federal income tax to a national or even potentially a global sales tax, at that

01:41:48.000 point, then having cash be traceable would be almost essential to verifying that the proper tax had been paid

01:41:55.000 on each transaction.

01:41:57.000 So yes, and clearly, I absolutely agree with you on the infrastructure.

01:42:01.000 To put that into place certainly doesn't exist now.

01:42:04.000 But I don't think it's that unreasonable.

01:42:06.000 Most of the point of sale cash registers today, people just think of the cash registers of their childhood.

01:42:12.000 These have become very sophisticated computer terminals that are hooked up to databases and hooked up to the

01:42:18.000 And essentially they have more computing power probably than the computer on your desk at home.

01:42:23.000 So it's not far-fetched or unreasonable to think that a system could be put into place to actually track the numbers on cash.

01:42:29.000 And the reason why, Bert, that probably the government would be interested in whether you gave me a 20 is why did you give me the 20?

01:42:35.000 Was it in exchange for marijuana?

01:42:39.000 That's the kind of question that the government actually wants to get to the bottom of, which is the whole justification for making cash trackable in the first place, is to eliminate things like a black market economy.

01:42:48.000 Well, I agree with you about the whole national sales tax thing.

01:42:54.000 That's the fake neocon move and we're going to keep the income tax as a quote social security payment system and then bring in the sales tax that also brings federal control into all businesses and they've said they need trackable cash for that.

01:43:05.000 Do you have any comments?

01:43:07.000 It's a terrible idea.

01:43:08.000 I'm absolutely opposed to this idea of national sales tax.

01:43:12.000 We didn't already have enough scrutiny on our purchases as it is today.

01:43:17.000 Bert, you had a comment?

01:43:18.000 Well, I was just going to say that if, again, if you want to be part of an underground economy, then you just, you know, as soon as it removes once from the source, then it's untrackable.

01:43:32.000 Yeah, they can come and say, where'd you get this?

01:43:34.000 I'd say, gee, it's a $20 bill.

01:43:35.000 I don't know where I got it.

01:43:37.000 They can't track it, like I give it to Catherine, she gives it to you, they come to you.

01:43:42.000 You have no idea where it came from.

01:43:43.000 It could have been involved in an illegal drug deal or handlings ago and you are absolutely not connected to it.

01:43:51.000 It would be very hard for the government to prove that.

01:43:55.000 I'm kind of not going to comment on that.

01:43:59.000 Okay, that's the caller.

01:44:00.000 That's why I was confused.

01:44:01.000 Yeah, Danny, thanks for the call.

01:44:02.000 I meant to let you go.

01:44:03.000 I kept hearing somebody go, can you hear me, Alex?

01:44:05.000 And it was Danny who had been holding.

01:44:07.000 Go ahead and finish up, sir.

01:44:09.000 Mark, go ahead.

01:44:11.000 Oh, again, I just, you know, national sales tax, perhaps Is it more equitable?

01:44:17.000 Because if I go out and I buy a $50 million yacht, maybe I should be paying more for the government than somebody who goes out and buys baby food.

01:44:26.000 As a concept, I don't know if I disagree.

01:44:30.000 As far as the government tracking every single bill, I'm not sure that's a wonderful idea.

01:44:36.000 I'm not sure I'm in favor of it.

01:44:37.000 I'm not sure they would ever be able to actually do anything useful with all that data.

01:44:42.000 So I'm going to kind of back out of that one.

01:44:46.000 Still there?

01:44:48.000 Alright, Catherine, comments to that?

01:44:50.000 Well, yeah, I think the broader question we need to be asking at every turn on this is what pieces are we putting into place and how could they be used in the future?

01:45:01.000 And that's really what I've been trying to do from the get-go, and encourage the RFID industry to do the same thing.

01:45:06.000 Because most of these folks, and let's be honest here, Most people who are members of Inglobal, most of the companies and most of the folks working for the company that is this industry consortium, they don't have evil designs.

01:45:20.000 They're not looking to spy on Americans.

01:45:22.000 They're not looking to put a chip in your shoe and spy on you as you walk around.

01:45:26.000 I think the thing that potentially, though, Bert, makes your member organization somewhat dangerous to the rest of us is that they Perhaps don't recognize these longer-term concerns.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, it's building the infrastructure.

01:45:38.000 Industry's being sold at big companies like Walmart and the Defense Department are saying, gotta have it if you're going to sell to us.

01:45:44.000 And then the Feds are dancing around saying they want to use it for control.

01:45:47.000 This is the issue.

01:45:48.000 Listen, Catherine Albrecht and of course, Burt Moore, I appreciate both of you coming on the show and check out Catherine's powerful website full of key information.

01:45:58.000 Go to spychips.com or to go to the trade organization RFID.org.

01:46:06.000 Thank you both for coming on the show.

01:46:07.000 Thank you.

01:46:08.000 I really appreciate it.

01:46:10.000 Take care.

01:46:11.000 Very informative and we'll get to the bottom of what's going on.

01:46:14.000 Let's talk to callers now.

01:46:15.000 I've been holding forever.

01:46:17.000 Let's talk to Barbara. 1.00

01:46:18.000 Barbara, welcome to the Airwaves. 1.00

01:46:21.000 Thank you very much.

01:46:22.000 I just wanted to say, Catherine did a very good job informing the people, and we thank her so much.

01:46:29.000 I really feel if you don't protest it now, you won't get to later.

01:46:33.000 My question was, and it's kind of important about the Masonic Order, I don't know if you heard about this or not, but there was one man that was in the paper, I think he was about 76 years old.

01:46:44.000 Yeah, they blew the guy's head off in Long Island last Monday.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, right.

01:46:48.000 What kind of initiation is this?

01:46:50.000 I haven't heard of them using the gun before.

01:46:52.000 I know they use the cable tow and things like that, but I've never heard of them using a gun.

01:46:58.000 Oh yeah, that's very popular in some of the higher level initiations.

01:47:01.000 For those who don't know, by the way, we found other articles where other Masonic organizations, the Klan and other Mason groups, have accidentally shot people in the head too, and it's always found to be an accident within an hour and a half by the police, of course, who tend to be Masons. 0.64

01:47:14.000 But yeah, it's just very loving organization guillotines, coffins, skulls a bunch of other scary stuff you know uh... hungry rats in cages kind of 1984 style torture stuff and that was by the way all over the major new york papers last week and uh... this is what uh... happens this is the christian love of the secret group that wants to take digital photos of all your children and put them in federal databases with their new chips program

01:47:44.000 And, you know, imagine if I started a group, or you started a group, where it was known we had guillotines and shotguns by people's heads to scare them and, quote, get them into a scared state.

01:47:53.000 And, you know, there'd be police raids on it as a cult.

01:47:57.000 But this is all kind of grandfathered in, and the establishment are members, and lower-level masons don't even know what's going on.

01:48:03.000 Same type of stuff goes on at Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove.

01:48:06.000 I mean, this is what it's all about.

01:48:07.000 Yeah, okay.

01:48:09.000 Well, thank you very much.

01:48:10.000 You bet!

01:48:11.000 Yeah, people are really interested in that and they should be.

01:48:13.000 We've got a huge area on the Masons and the Occult that we put together last week for the website for the Skull & Bones Bohemian Grove Expo is added on Coast to Coast AM.

01:48:22.000 Frank in West Virginia.

01:48:23.000 Frank, go ahead.

01:48:23.000 Hi.

01:48:25.000 Two points I wanted to make.

01:48:26.000 First of all, one issue that has not been covered.

01:48:30.000 I did an experiment similar to the one you mentioned a long time ago reported on the Power Hour.

01:48:36.000 One was with a dry dollar bill which had the magnetic strip in it.

01:48:43.000 Of course, it did the same as what you encountered with the metallic ink in the center of the

01:48:48.000 face.

01:48:49.000 Next was with water and it heated up, did not do any scorching or anything else.

01:48:57.000 But what I was concerned about was the strip along the side, about a third, a quarter of

01:49:02.000 the way across the 1,500.

01:49:06.000 magnetic strip you know that can be correct. That's what I was trying to see if it would deactivate.

01:49:11.000 I saw no observable evidence that anything had occurred whether it be in water on high power for a long period of time or dry without it.

01:49:23.000 Now if that were to deactivate I would at least think that it would shrivel up or do some other type of Change.

01:49:34.000 I could not prove whether or not that was deactivated.

01:49:37.000 Now, one more thing is, um, and that's the only thing we know that is actually a type of RFID or at least a magnetic strip.

01:49:46.000 I think that's similar probably to a magnetic strip or, you know, regular tape, whether it be VHS.

01:49:53.000 Yeah, it is a magnetic strip.

01:49:56.000 Now, the other thing I wanted to point out is we're trying to I don't see ways of defeating this.

01:50:05.000 Let's keep in mind that the only ones that have to benefit from this are the government, which is inherently evil, wanting power and control over all of us.

01:50:16.000 Yeah, it's totally un-American, thanks for the call. 0.84

01:50:18.000 And they say there's billions of dollars in counterfeiting each year.

01:50:21.000 Big deal!

01:50:22.000 That's nothing in the aggregate, does nothing.

01:50:25.000 Made the dollar the world reserve currency because people were counterfeiting it.

01:50:29.000 Now, thanks to these new measures, the dollar's dying.

01:50:31.000 That's part of it.

01:50:32.000 Because now they can't counterfeit it and make it the world reserve currency.

01:50:35.000 So it's, uh... And no, I'm not saying counterfeiting's good.

01:50:38.000 My point is, is that that's their excuse.

01:50:40.000 It's about the cashless society control grid, as Catherine Albrecht said.

01:50:45.000 And for these industries, it's just about making money.

01:50:47.000 The government loves it and is pushing it and trying to make people adopt it because they like it for Big Brother.

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01:53:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:54:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:54:09.000 We had the RFID PR guy on.

01:54:12.000 He's a nice guy.

01:54:14.000 Answered our questions.

01:54:15.000 Burt Moore and Kathryn Albrecht, of course, is great.

01:54:19.000 But this is the debate we need to be having about this.

01:54:21.000 And again, I never expected that RFID story to... I mean, I just was like, yeah, interesting posting.

01:54:27.000 We didn't even write the article.

01:54:29.000 Sent to us by a good guy, Henry McHale, by some of his readers, who saw this happen.

01:54:36.000 And indeed, in some cases, it does happen.

01:54:38.000 In some cases, about half the time, it doesn't.

01:54:42.000 So whatever's in the money is only in some of it.

01:54:45.000 And again, I do not recommend you all run out and stick your $20 bills in the microwave, because it could be dangerous.

01:54:51.000 But, you know, my webmaster in England's brother took photos of it.

01:54:57.000 He stuck his euros in there.

01:54:59.000 And the EU says they're going to be doing this.

01:55:02.000 And they did pop instantly, in just a couple seconds.

01:55:05.000 So something's going on there.

01:55:08.000 Something's happening with this, and it became the biggest story on the internet for a day, as I said.

01:55:15.000 Just amazing!

01:55:16.000 But it'll be interesting to see what the RFID trade group now has to say.

01:55:22.000 They said they're going to put something else out on this.

01:55:24.000 Is it the magnetic ink on it?

01:55:28.000 The fact is that these surveillance ships are going in, and it is a serious issue, and governments are saying they're going to put it in the money.

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02:00:42.000 By the way, before we go to calls and a bunch of other news, open lines, tomorrow I'm taking off.

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02:02:52.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls, then into more news.

02:02:55.000 Tim in Ohio, thanks for holding, go ahead.

02:02:58.000 Alex, you're too good to us.

02:03:00.000 What's on your mind?

02:03:02.000 A couple things.

02:03:03.000 Did you see last week on the CNN was reporting that the ownership of the Sears Tower in Chicago had changed hands?

02:03:11.000 Yeah, that was transferred to the owner of the World Trade Center, Larry Silverstein.

02:03:15.000 Now, interesting that The World Trade Center was also transferred to him weeks prior to 9-11.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, a couple months before, yeah.

02:03:22.000 That was from the Rockefellers, or what they said, the Port Authority of New Jersey.

02:03:26.000 Which was owned by the Rockefellers, yeah.

02:03:28.000 Now, should we be watching Sears Tower as a possible target?

02:03:32.000 They've always said it was the next target.

02:03:34.000 There was a plan on 9-11, supposedly, to fly a jetliner into, but that didn't happen because FBI agents in Chicago actually helped foil some of the patsies so they couldn't move ahead. 0.86

02:03:43.000 Despite Bush ordering them not to stop them, that was ignored.

02:03:48.000 And yeah, they admit the Sears Tower is one of the major targets.

02:03:51.000 And it's just, I think it's even more now that they've announced that it's changed hands to the same person who took control of the Trey Towers.

02:03:58.000 And I think that included a very large insurance policy when it did go down.

02:04:03.000 Yeah, I have the Chicago Sun newspaper here.

02:04:06.000 In fact, right in front of me, yes.

02:04:11.000 It says a secretive group of Manhattan real estate owners headed up by Larry Silverstein.

02:04:20.000 A secretive group.

02:04:23.000 Anything else, Tim?

02:04:24.000 It's an assorted cast of characters.

02:04:29.000 How are those RFID chips powered and what effect is that going to have on our bodies if we're carrying these things?

02:04:34.000 And what can they do to quell our fears that those RFID chips are nothing but a Trojan horse to the microchip population?

02:04:41.000 Alright, I'll try to answer that and take more calls when we get back.

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02:08:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:07.000 All right, my friends.

02:08:09.000 We're now eight minutes and twenty-five seconds into this third global hour of resistance to tearing as we broadcast on the AM and FM dial, simulcast in shortwave and the internet at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:08:27.000 Big RFID controversy.

02:08:29.000 Callers call in, put their 20s in the microwave, they explode, they pop.

02:08:33.000 You put Euros in, they do it.

02:08:35.000 Some microwave it doesn't happen.

02:08:36.000 With old 20s it doesn't happen.

02:08:38.000 The big industry group coming out and saying, you know, PrisonPlanet.com is You know, putting out things that are wrong.

02:08:44.000 Then we talked to the guy who wrote the article, Bert Moore, and he says, well, we'll have to get to the bottom of it.

02:08:49.000 Maybe something is going on.

02:08:50.000 We'll have to find out.

02:08:51.000 But he doesn't think it's RFID.

02:08:53.000 He started sounding pretty convinced when callers were calling in.

02:08:56.000 I'm a restaurant owner.

02:08:57.000 Put it in and it does it, you know.

02:08:59.000 We want to find out what's going on.

02:09:00.000 You know, I was sent this article by Henry McHale, who wrote up the email, you know, of the first people that tried this, and it happened to them.

02:09:08.000 And it happened to them because they went in the store, got some 20s out of an ATM.

02:09:13.000 Suddenly, they tried to leave, and the alarm went off, because, you know, they have the magnetic ink on the bills.

02:09:18.000 That could have been it.

02:09:19.000 They thought maybe there's chips in it, because it had been in the news they were planning to do this in Europe and Japan, and our government's talked about it.

02:09:27.000 They've got a primitive RFID strip, a magnetic strip, already in the money since 98, so they put it in the microwave and it did indeed pop and catch on fire.

02:09:35.000 Then my webmaster's brother in England tried it with the Euros, same thing happened, same spot in the bill, within three seconds.

02:09:42.000 So we're trying to get to the bottom of this, and we'll find out, and we've posted a lot of information, and help us get these emails and information that we put together out to everybody.

02:09:53.000 It's really up to you.

02:09:54.000 You've got the power.

02:09:56.000 The last caller, and then we'll go to more calls and more news, Tim in Ohio said, you know, is this part of the beast system?

02:10:02.000 Is this part of the government tracking system?

02:10:04.000 And I think, clearly, some of the industries are trying to make money, and stores are having it pushed on them, or that is, manufacturers are, distributors are, because Walmart and the Defense Department have gotten together, and this is mainstream news, and have ordered their manufacturers to do this if they're going to buy supplies from them.

02:10:23.000 So it's very scary and very serious, and we need to have a major debate about it, which is what we're trying to foster here on this show.

02:10:31.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Roger in Pennsylvania.

02:10:34.000 Roger, go ahead.

02:10:36.000 Yeah, thanks Alex.

02:10:37.000 Yeah, I was kind of a little frustrated with that earlier guy about, you know, Well, you know, about going to an income tax.

02:10:43.000 I mean, not income tax, sales tax.

02:10:45.000 We don't want any kind of a sales tax on a federal level because... They want to use the RFID clearly, the government, for the cashless society to do that.

02:10:54.000 Yeah, now, I don't want to go into the many reasons for that on every count, but beside the point, you know, well, you know, it's not, they're not paying twice as much money if they're buying twice the goods.

02:11:06.000 Now, he thinks it ought to be progressive.

02:11:08.000 You know, what if you buy a luxury item like some big boat or yacht or whatever?

02:11:12.000 Let me stop you and then I'll let you finish, Roger.

02:11:14.000 This is what I've said.

02:11:15.000 Okay?

02:11:16.000 Eight years ago, they had neocon conservatives going around pushing a national sales tax.

02:11:21.000 Ooh, it'll get rid of the income tax. 0.80

02:11:23.000 Well, I looked at the bills and the plans.

02:11:25.000 And again, conservatives will buy it because Republicans are bringing it forward.

02:11:29.000 They're going to keep the income tax for, quote, Social Security and FICA.

02:11:34.000 That'll be 14% for employers and 6.97% for people, you know, workers.

02:11:42.000 Then they can increase that, so they keep the income tax structure in place.

02:11:46.000 Then they bring out a 15-20% sales tax overlapping it.

02:11:50.000 Now you're up, if you're an employer, over 30%.

02:11:53.000 Then they can ratchet both of them up, and that brings federal enforcers and tax police into every business, annihilates any underground economy, paying the, you know, 15-year-old teenager to mow your lawn and cash.

02:12:06.000 You know, I mean, this brings a whole new level of control.

02:12:09.000 That's exactly what the feds say.

02:12:10.000 They go, well, people say, well, poor people will be unduly penalized because they can barely buy their food and, you know, buying stuff with sales tax would hurt them.

02:12:19.000 And they go, don't worry, you'll just swipe your card and it'll tell us who you are and then you don't have to pay any sales tax if you make under $20,000 or $18,000 a year.

02:12:27.000 dollars or eighteen thousand dollars a year all this is great no tax

02:12:27.000 Oh, this is great!

02:12:32.000 for lower are you know income people uh... so and and maybe even discounts for you know for

02:12:38.000 outright poor people for the federal subsidy

02:12:41.000 But again, then people steal cards, people get poor people's cards to cheat.

02:12:46.000 Oh, we've got to have you thumb scan to confirm that that is indeed your card.

02:12:49.000 And guess what?

02:12:50.000 At Disney World and SeaWorld and Piggly Wiggly and H-E-B, this is going in.

02:12:57.000 Happening.

02:12:58.000 So that's the control grid.

02:12:59.000 As I said it, I'm not bragging, this is scary.

02:13:03.000 Roger, have I not been laying this out for years?

02:13:05.000 Yeah, yeah, before I wrap up, you gotta do... Well, go ahead and take some time.

02:13:08.000 I didn't mean to interrupt.

02:13:09.000 Well, you gotta do more shows with experts on neoconism and this free trade of the Americas that the one-worlder burglar Illuminazis are trying to jam through by January of next year.

02:13:09.000 No, no, no.

02:13:09.000 You go ahead.

02:13:22.000 But just to finish up is This caller, or I'm sure you remember this, it was something like in the 10 to 15 year ago time frame, that they did put this luxury tax on yachts.

02:13:34.000 I think it may have been as little as $75 on a, you know, you're talking what, $20,000, $30,000 boat?

02:13:41.000 And that was enough, just that relatively small amount was enough to kill luxury boating industry.

02:13:49.000 So they, even the liberals had to pull that embarrassing tax.

02:13:53.000 God bless us.

02:13:55.000 All right, I appreciate the call.

02:13:57.000 And, you know, if I start ranting over the national sales taxes, because it's so bad.

02:14:02.000 I mean, it's like Bush's Defense of Marriage Act.

02:14:04.000 Well, I believe in marriage.

02:14:05.000 I believe in the sanctity of it.

02:14:06.000 I believe that they should not legalize homosexual marriage. 1.00

02:14:10.000 But Bush says, oh, same, you know, partners, same sex, you know, whatever.

02:14:14.000 So he's really bringing you gay marriage and acting like it's something conservative.

02:14:18.000 Because, oh, well, we'll say marriage is a different definition, but the same thing.

02:14:23.000 And then he goes, we need a con-con for that, a constitutional convention, where they could rewrite the entire Bill of Rights when that happens.

02:14:29.000 They already tried the flag-burning bill.

02:14:31.000 Look, I love the flag.

02:14:32.000 You know, I like the red, white, and blue. 1.00

02:14:34.000 But that flag symbolizes some idiot's right to burn it! 1.00

02:14:39.000 And the flag amendment would mean you couldn't sell Dixie Cups with the American flag on it. 1.00

02:14:43.000 Like my mama buys on Fourth of July, when we're eating hamburgers and hot dogs.

02:14:49.000 Yeah, I mean, it was like the Nazi Blood and Soil Act, where you couldn't, you know, have the Nazi flag in any effigy but a properly issued flag. 0.64

02:14:57.000 You know, it's like worship of the flag, but it had nothing to do with the flag.

02:15:02.000 Okay?

02:15:03.000 It had to do with getting a con-con going.

02:15:06.000 A constitutional convention.

02:15:08.000 And I guarantee you, if they ever get a con-con going, as soon as that happens, the military-industrial complex is going to launch a terror attack and rewrite the whole Bill of Rights during the hysteria.

02:15:17.000 Okay.

02:15:18.000 I mean, they're already ignoring it, but they want to get rid of it.

02:15:21.000 Let's talk to Steve in Illinois.

02:15:22.000 Steve, go ahead.

02:15:24.000 How are you doing, Alex?

02:15:25.000 Good.

02:15:26.000 How was the last hour?

02:15:27.000 It was great.

02:15:29.000 Very good.

02:15:30.000 My comment is, we can't forget that these chips can not only be used as tracking devices, but I believe they can also be used in conjunction with the multitude of computers that are putting on a lot of our products as triggering devices also.

02:15:46.000 Well, that's what they say in the New Scientist headline, RFID chips watch grandmas brush their teeth, they will report back to computers, wireless scanners, they will pick all, the government will pick all this up and then transfer that data.

02:16:02.000 Oh sure, and we are paying for it, all of us are paying for it as prices increase at places like Walmart, where they're, you know, the government will get on board with them, tell them how great it is, and get everyone duped into believing that it's for the good

02:16:17.000 and then they basically we end up paying work and then things happen like uh...

02:16:22.000 an entire lot break computer in your car

02:16:25.000 all by the way those have been locking up everywhere killing people you name it

02:16:28.000 but i think by the way i said with the satellite tracking system to control

02:16:31.000 your car they can't the government can tell you whether you're a

02:16:35.000 black rocky road doctor

02:16:37.000 i'm i'll get a problem but also i don't know if you're listening to you remember

02:16:41.000 uh... a woman that was claiming an accident she was involved in was not

02:16:45.000 her fault she's trying to claim it was a very nice book

02:16:48.000 There's thousands of it, there's already the black box in all the new cars for eight years, nine years, and they go in there and have all the data on you.

02:16:55.000 Yeah, and did the manufacturer tell you, hey, by the way, that car you just bought from us has a computer in it that has nothing to do with your brakes, but It's actually a black box.

02:17:04.000 And so you're going 80 miles an hour down the country road, a deer jumps out, you spin, run into another car, somebody gets injured, and you get charged with attempted murder, which, by the way, they're doing.

02:17:15.000 My point is, they're implementing all these things without even telling us.

02:17:19.000 We're actually paying for it.

02:17:20.000 They're not even telling us.

02:17:21.000 You mentioned some woman. 0.72

02:17:23.000 The National News will pick one person.

02:17:25.000 Cops here in Austin, every day in a big accident, are pulling that computer and people are going to jail.

02:17:31.000 But when they wrecker speed, nothing happens.

02:17:33.000 Or when some drunk politician... Around here, politicians are allowed to drive drunk, run into people, local talk show host are.

02:17:41.000 If you're part of the establishment, see, it's also two sets of rules.

02:17:45.000 Sure.

02:17:46.000 Oh, that's all but in the paper.

02:17:47.000 I can name names.

02:17:49.000 Let's not forget just how many of these microcomputers could be in our products that we buy every day.

02:17:54.000 They're already in a lot of the stuff.

02:17:57.000 We post, we see, okay don't exaggerate, 200 RFID articles a day.

02:18:02.000 I mean, it's everywhere.

02:18:04.000 There's a war going on, a PR war.

02:18:06.000 We got the truth, they got the spin.

02:18:09.000 We only post a few of them.

02:18:12.000 And now I'm constantly hearing around here up by Chicago about how wonderful this micro-technology is.

02:18:20.000 You know, I just can't... It's going to heal you of cancer and they're going to inject nanobots in your vaccines.

02:18:26.000 Thanks for the call.

02:18:28.000 Let's talk to Howard in Colorado.

02:18:30.000 Go ahead, Howard.

02:18:31.000 Hello?

02:18:32.000 Alec, I wanted to mention to you, since you were bringing this up on these chips, I went into Walmart the other day.

02:18:32.000 Hello, sir.

02:18:39.000 I bought a quart of oil and some gas treatment about 10 days ago.

02:18:43.000 And when I went to the checkout counter, you know, I put, I ran everything through.

02:18:47.000 It was one of these places, one of these checkout counters.

02:18:50.000 Yeah, self-checkout.

02:18:52.000 Yeah.

02:18:53.000 Well, you know what they wanted?

02:18:54.000 They wanted my birthday.

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02:18:59.000 I said, it's not my rules, lady. 0.99

02:19:01.000 So I went to another cashier and there was a long line.

02:19:04.000 I went back.

02:19:05.000 He said, oh, it's okay now.

02:19:07.000 Uh, you can forget about that.

02:19:08.000 I feel worse as store manager.

02:19:10.000 Yeah, same thing at SeaWorld.

02:19:11.000 Uh, I'm up.

02:19:12.000 Miles scanning.

02:19:13.000 I'm returning my, uh, my season pass.

02:19:15.000 Oh, forget it.

02:19:16.000 Forget it.

02:19:16.000 You don't have to biometrically scan.

02:19:18.000 Forget it.

02:19:19.000 Yeah, I don't know what they're doing with these birth dates, but I bet there's a third of them.

02:19:23.000 They know who you are, and they're training you to enter personal data to buy and sell.

02:19:29.000 And by the way, at Walmarts and Home Depots and HEBs, after they get you used to the self-service for about a year, then the thumb scanner goes in.

02:19:37.000 It's already happening, bud.

02:19:39.000 It's incremental enslavement.

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02:23:45.000 All right, going back to Howard in Colorado. He went into the slave camp owning, and that's

02:24:06.000 mainstream news, BBC. Walmart, who owns the slave camps there, owns the factories built

02:24:12.000 right under the prisons in China.

02:24:14.000 He went in there, and he went to the self-service system, where you go and check out your own goods, and they wanted your ID.

02:24:22.000 Describe how that happened, what they said, and then what developed.

02:24:26.000 Here's what happened.

02:24:27.000 I went in there.

02:24:28.000 I was going through the self-service thing.

02:24:30.000 I scanned my products.

02:24:31.000 I got ready to pay for it.

02:24:33.000 The lady came running up to me and said, you know, I couldn't put the money in the thing where you insert your money when you self-pay. 0.91

02:24:41.000 You know, you pay your own money.

02:24:42.000 You put it in that little receptacle where they receive the money.

02:24:47.000 Well, it wouldn't go in.

02:24:47.000 She came running up to me.

02:24:49.000 She said, I need your birthday.

02:24:50.000 I said, what do you mean you need my birthday? 0.99

02:24:53.000 I said, You must be crazy, lady. 1.00

02:24:55.000 I'm not giving you any of my birthday or any of my ID. 0.90

02:24:58.000 Now, they claim that Zip Code's birthdays is to look at demographics.

02:25:02.000 And on the surface, that's true.

02:25:03.000 That pays for the program.

02:25:04.000 But this is about training you to put the personal data in, even when you pay cash.

02:25:09.000 Go ahead.

02:25:10.000 Well, what if they're doing facial scanning and they match your birthday to your face?

02:25:13.000 Oh, Walmart's already been caught doing that, sir.

02:25:16.000 And they've got... I mean, did you hear last hour?

02:25:17.000 They were caught with smart shelves that face scan you.

02:25:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:25:22.000 That really triggered that I listened to your last two hours, as a matter of fact.

02:25:26.000 So I just thought I ought to mention that to you.

02:25:29.000 I mean, I know you probably already know about it, but this was the first time I was ever asked for my birthday or any personal information.

02:25:35.000 And then when you said no, they came back and said, oh, okay, that's okay.

02:25:38.000 You don't have to.

02:25:39.000 Well, yeah, they did that, but that's only after I raised a holy living stink.

02:25:43.000 And I said, you can take my purchase out of there, lady. 0.91

02:25:45.000 I'll take this junk back.

02:25:47.000 I don't need it. 0.56

02:25:48.000 And I'll go somewhere else and buy it.

02:25:50.000 Then I went to another cashier because I did really want to get the oil.

02:25:54.000 And so when I got over to the other cashier, there's another long line.

02:25:57.000 Then I went back over there, you know, and I said, I want to see your store manager.

02:26:03.000 Then she says, Oh, forget about it.

02:26:04.000 Forget about it.

02:26:05.000 I fixed it.

02:26:06.000 I changed it.

02:26:07.000 It's okay now.

02:26:08.000 You don't have to do anything.

02:26:09.000 Just put your money in.

02:26:10.000 And that's what I did.

02:26:11.000 And then I left.

02:26:13.000 Hey, it's just like SeaWorld.

02:26:14.000 They said, well, you got a hand scan to get in here now.

02:26:16.000 And I said, that's it.

02:26:17.000 I'm leaving.

02:26:17.000 OK, you don't have to.

02:26:18.000 Hey, thanks for the call.

02:26:19.000 I appreciate it.

02:26:19.000 Good to hear from you.

02:26:21.000 That's how a real American behaves. 0.93

02:26:24.000 FBI would say that's how Al Qaeda behaves.

02:26:27.000 Bill in Kansas City, Missouri.

02:26:28.000 Go ahead, Bill.

02:26:28.000 Yeah.

02:26:31.000 Yeah, I just wanted to say I called last week and you called me a federal agent when I made a statement.

02:26:36.000 Hey, hang up on him.

02:26:37.000 Hang up on him. 0.98

02:26:38.000 Hang up on him. 0.97

02:26:38.000 Yeah, he called in last week and called for violence against federal people. 0.97

02:26:43.000 And if you're not a federal agent, fine.

02:26:45.000 You just made me real mad because I'm the one that goes to jail when people talk like that.

02:26:51.000 And I don't think that's the solution.

02:26:52.000 We're having a great effect waking people up, and that type of talk is bad news.

02:26:57.000 Now, if you aren't Bill, and that's fine, OK, I don't want to discuss it anymore.

02:27:02.000 Because I'm non-violent, OK?

02:27:04.000 And that's all I'm saying.

02:27:06.000 So don't be mad at me, Bill, OK?

02:27:07.000 But I'm just not going to have a discussion of it.

02:27:08.000 You want to call back sometime about something else?

02:27:10.000 That's fine.

02:27:11.000 OK?

02:27:12.000 It just sounded like classic provocateur stuff made me very angry.

02:27:16.000 There was a whole Bohemian Grove discussion, OK?

02:27:18.000 So if you're mad at me, OK.

02:27:19.000 That's fine.

02:27:21.000 John in Tennessee.

02:27:22.000 Go ahead, John.

02:27:24.000 John, go ahead.

02:27:25.000 You're on the air.

02:27:26.000 Do you have a lecture this weekend with Ralph Nader?

02:27:30.000 I have been asked to speak at a big event in Crawford, Texas with thousands of people right after Ralph Nader this Saturday in Crawford, Texas.

02:27:37.000 I'm speaking at 7 o'clock.

02:27:39.000 Okay.

02:27:39.000 I personally handed Nader copies of your videos on 9-1-1 in Bohemian Grove so he does know who you are.

02:27:46.000 Maybe that's why he's talking about impeaching Bush.

02:27:51.000 Well, I don't know.

02:27:51.000 I mean, the coordinator for Oklahoma and now for Texas is a fan, and they want me speaking after Nader, so I am.

02:28:03.000 I'm honored.

02:28:04.000 I mean, I'm not a big fan of Nader on a lot of issues, but he's better than Bush and Kerry.

02:28:08.000 Yeah, well, also, we may have had a Masonic ritual killing this week in Tennessee.

02:28:14.000 A funeral for a sheriff's deputy was held this week at a, quote, Masonic Baptist church.

02:28:19.000 According to the church sign on TV, this Masonic Baptist Church was built by a billionaire Arab contractor for our former Skull and Bones Mayor and Bohemian Grove members at Scripps Howard Media Cartel. 0.61

02:28:32.000 How can you just come out and say something like that when you don't have evidence of it?

02:28:35.000 That's what I'm going to give you.

02:28:36.000 This Loudoun County deputy was ambushed and allegedly gunned down by the son of a Loudoun County prosecutor using an STS assault rifle with 30-round clips.

02:28:47.000 The prosecutor's son... Why did the son of the prosecutor do that?

02:28:52.000 That's a good question.

02:28:53.000 The prosecutor's son was found shot in the head inside the prosecutor's house, but he did not leave a suicide note.

02:28:59.000 No eyewitness actually saw the kid alive, and his father's lack of an alibi was never discussed by the news media.

02:29:05.000 And you can do a Google search for Loudoun County Sheriff's Deputy and Tennessee Air National Guard.

02:29:13.000 Are they indicting the son of the prosecutor?

02:29:16.000 He's dead.

02:29:17.000 He supposedly committed suicide before the 150-man SWAT team could burst into the house.

02:29:23.000 And this is the same DUI cop and DUI prosecutor.

02:29:25.000 Well, that's very suspicious.

02:29:27.000 I want to hear more when we get back.

02:29:28.000 Very suspicious.

02:29:29.000 Why was the police officer in the house?

02:29:31.000 We'll be back.

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02:32:59.000 minority groups on rise by 2050.

02:33:02.000 Whites will be the minority and will be a elderly population of over 60 years old. 0.58

02:33:09.000 And my point on this is that I don't particularly care what the color of the people are, but they better be Americans.

02:33:17.000 And the point is, the majority of the majority group will be foreigners. 0.67

02:33:22.000 So America won't be America. 0.94

02:33:23.000 It'll be people from China, Russia, Latin America, who have no history of freedom and are good slaves. 1.00

02:33:30.000 Not to mention all these third world people. 1.00

02:33:32.000 What is the average hourly wage worldwide?

02:33:34.000 I think it's like 75 cents.

02:33:36.000 I've seen the numbers.

02:33:37.000 It's not even a dollar.

02:33:38.000 I know that.

02:33:39.000 Going from memory here, which is about accurate, about 9% of the time.

02:33:42.000 But it's very low.

02:33:43.000 And they're trying to get rid of the minimum wage.

02:33:46.000 They say, oh, that's a socialist control.

02:33:47.000 We have a socialist government.

02:33:49.000 We have to have socialist price controls.

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02:33:59.000 So you bring in all these third-worlders who live ten to a house, and people that pay taxes, live in the infrastructure. 1.00

02:34:04.000 You can forget it!

02:34:07.000 Even doctors are paid less now.

02:34:09.000 Only people making more are the lawyers and the people running the system.

02:34:13.000 Back to John in Tennessee, who I have to say has sent me a lot of good info in the past.

02:34:17.000 He's got this news story he's telling us about where this bizarre deputy is killed and then the son of the prosecutor commits suicide supposedly, but there's no note.

02:34:28.000 And the SWAT team shows up, and it sounds pretty spooky, but I don't know how you could say it's a masonic killing.

02:34:35.000 But though we know that goes on, tell us about it.

02:34:40.000 It's international news all over the world right now.

02:34:43.000 The dead cop was sent to the prosecutor's house after the prosecutor's wife called 911 about an alleged domestic assault.

02:34:51.000 She called from a neighbor's house, which is strange.

02:34:54.000 And the cop was gunned down without warning as soon as he stepped out of his car.

02:34:58.000 Now this is the same DUI cop and DUI prosecutor who arrested a wing commander of Knoxville's Tennessee Air National Guard base.

02:35:06.000 The colonel was accused of DUI even though the cop admitted it was a medical condition.

02:35:10.000 And I threw him in the mental ward.

02:35:12.000 You called about this.

02:35:13.000 Yeah.

02:35:13.000 Right.

02:35:13.000 He was in there for 30 days in the psychiatric hospital without trial, without bail.

02:35:18.000 Without conviction, and it's the same psychiatric hospital the DUI prosecutor's son was jailed at previously.

02:35:24.000 And the National Guard stripped the Colonel of command without court martial.

02:35:29.000 Very suspicious.

02:35:30.000 And now the DUI charges will have to be dropped, because there's no cop to testify.

02:35:33.000 Now, the Masonic Link, because that's the church the deputy was buried at, is weird.

02:35:39.000 And you tile this in with your interviews of Colonel Don DeGrand Prix and General Tommy Frank talking about martial law, and you get this There's a civil war going on between Homeland Security and the White House with Pentagon people.

02:35:52.000 So, it's bizarre.

02:35:55.000 Yeah, I don't know if we can say that, but it is weird and should be investigated.

02:35:58.000 Thanks, John.

02:36:00.000 We'll go to Scott and Gabby and John here in a few minutes, then hit some more news.

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02:36:17.000 Jim, good to have you on the broadcast.

02:36:18.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

02:36:20.000 Keep up the good work.

02:36:21.000 I tell you what, you bring out information that I don't hear anywhere else.

02:36:25.000 Well, I appreciate that, Jim, and you help us with our outreach, and you are the sponsor for the Global Shortwave that reaches millions weekly.

02:36:34.000 By the way, I wanted to tell you, I heard you on George Norris' show the other night.

02:36:37.000 Excellent.

02:36:38.000 Absolutely excellent.

02:36:39.000 I really had a lot of work to do the next day, but I was up until 3 o'clock in the morning.

02:36:44.000 Well, they told me that they got one of the biggest responses ever in their history from the interview, and that I'm such a big guest, they don't want to quote overuse me, but that I will be back on multiple times yearly, and so folks, if you want to hear me on, just let them know.

02:37:03.000 Well, you know, I've heard about your episode down at the Bohemian Grove, and I kind of knew in the back of my mind that you'd done a video on that, but I really didn't know all the details on that.

02:37:16.000 My friend, you've got some kahunas to go in there and do what you did, but my hat's off to you. 1.00

02:37:22.000 Well, you know, myself and Mike Hanson did it.

02:37:24.000 I took Mike with me with the British media, and we infiltrated, and we got the footage, and yeah, I never really talk about Bohemian Grove.

02:37:30.000 I have the video, but I finally spent like 45 minutes again recapping what happened yesterday, because people have got so many questions, but they can find out by getting the video.

02:37:40.000 Well, great work.

02:37:42.000 That was a fascinating story, and it kept me awake all night long.

02:37:46.000 I was tired at 3 o'clock, and I was kind of hoping they'd replay everything, because it was that good.

02:37:53.000 Well, thank you, Jim.

02:37:55.000 I'm told that they're getting massive requests to re-air it, but perhaps they'll have me back on.

02:38:02.000 You've got several specials.

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02:42:36.000 Jim, I really want to thank you for coming on the show, my friend.

02:42:38.000 Always a pleasure.

02:42:39.000 Keep up the good work, Alex.

02:42:40.000 I'll try, Jim, with God's grace.

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02:42:51.000 Let's talk to Scott in Colorado.

02:42:54.000 Scott, go ahead.

02:42:56.000 Yes, Alex.

02:42:57.000 As you know, all the states and even national laws have a business and commerce code to regulate trade in the United States.

02:43:07.000 And offenders can be fined based on various laws, but the government doesn't really depend on the revenue from those fines as a primary source of income.

02:43:21.000 Now, when the ordinary citizen starts Breaking these laws that relate to the RFID technology and the national sales tax, just your ordinary guy walking down the street times $200 million, I mean this is going to be the government's new source of primary revenue and they're going to have to adopt a whole new body of laws or law enforcement agency.

02:43:46.000 Hold on to the point, you're going to have, look they say the new national sales tax will be shared by the city, county, state, and federal government. They're going to

02:43:54.000 have regional government bodies already set up to distribute that. They're going to have tax police federally

02:44:01.000 deputized for every business. And all transactions, you must scan

02:44:05.000 your card or your thumb before you do it. And that's going to be the law. And this

02:44:10.000 is their new plan.

02:44:12.000 It'll be impossible to enforce. Wouldn't you agree?

02:44:17.000 Well, that's what they say they're going to do.

02:44:19.000 You go in a store and they want you to thumb scan or face scan to do it, even if you pay cash.

02:44:19.000 What do you mean?

02:44:25.000 I mean, this is what they're doing.

02:44:26.000 If the masses disobey the law, they're going to have to come up with some very punitive measures to control the populace.

02:44:37.000 How do you control that many people?

02:44:40.000 Well, they're going to incrementally put it in on certain products.

02:44:44.000 And they're doing it.

02:44:45.000 I mean, the hand scanners are going in at Walt Disney World, Piggly Wiggly, Safeway.

02:44:50.000 I mean, public schools, no cash allowed.

02:44:53.000 You must thumb scan to get your food.

02:44:55.000 Your parents have to put it in digitally each month.

02:44:58.000 They track what you eat.

02:45:00.000 That goes to the bureaucrats.

02:45:02.000 I mean, that's what I'm saying.

02:45:03.000 They're putting in the grid.

02:45:04.000 And you're right, it's massive.

02:45:06.000 It is massive.

02:45:07.000 Before I let you go, Alex, I called you a couple weeks ago about all the mercury in the vaccines.

02:45:12.000 Yeah, the thimerosal.

02:45:14.000 Yeah, out here in Colorado on the American Freedom Network, they advertise a product called Immunocal.

02:45:20.000 This product will boost your kid's immune system and it will also chelate the mercury out of their body.

02:45:27.000 Well, I don't know about the particular product, but I'm sure it's wonderful that they're advertising it if they're good folks.

02:45:30.000 But, yes, I've had MDs, pathologists, neurologists, I've had epidemiologists on.

02:45:39.000 And they say there are treatments for, you know, your 18-month-old baby's fine, giggling, laughing, running, jumping.

02:45:46.000 They get the second round of shots, they're in a corner convulsing, and for the rest of their life they're autistic. 0.93

02:45:50.000 They found that if you quickly get them in, and even later it helps, and detox them and do things to get the mercury out, that you can reduce the brain damage.

02:46:01.000 I'm not going to sit here and practice medicine on the air, but the doctors have said that.

02:46:05.000 Good to hear from you.

02:46:06.000 I appreciate the call, Scott.

02:46:08.000 Gabby in Kansas City, Missouri.

02:46:10.000 Go ahead, Gabby.

02:46:11.000 Yes.

02:46:12.000 Hello?

02:46:13.000 Hello, yes.

02:46:14.000 Yes, I met you in Kansas City last May when you came.

02:46:17.000 I just have a quick question and I'll hang up.

02:46:20.000 Yes.

02:46:21.000 These chips, can they be disabled in your $20 bill?

02:46:26.000 Like with an X-Acto knife, you know, little cut?

02:46:29.000 Well, obviously if you've got an RFID chip, and I'm not saying do this, but an RFID chip out of clothes or whatever, you know, the big RFID group did their own test with an RFID chip, it does pop and explode in two to three seconds as we said they do.

02:46:48.000 Uh, you know, the test that was done that we posted, uh... And you just take an X-Acto knife and cut the strip?

02:46:53.000 Well, again, ma'am, it's clear that not all the new 20s have it, because you'll take one and put it in the microwave, it doesn't blow up.

02:46:59.000 Oh! 0.60

02:46:59.000 And the next one does pop, like a little, you know, uh, ladyfinger, uh, firecracker. 0.60

02:47:03.000 Uh, so, you know, that's just, uh, some of what's going on.

02:47:07.000 What about taking a magnet?

02:47:09.000 I mean, how can they be disabled? 1.00

02:47:12.000 That's my question.

02:47:15.000 Well, these aren't magnetized, the new RFIDs.

02:47:17.000 They're little microtransmitter receivers.

02:47:19.000 I don't know what a magnet would do, and I'm telling you that not all the money has it.

02:47:23.000 Europe says they're doing it, going to do it, but we need to expose the system and have the RFID removed.

02:47:30.000 Okay.

02:47:31.000 Okay.

02:47:32.000 Okay, thank you.

02:47:33.000 Hey, thank you.

02:47:33.000 That's a really good question, though.

02:47:34.000 You know, back in 1997, I was concerned because in 93 in Texas, it was only like 25 states at the time, now it's 42, the other 8 are adopting it, the Feds, with a mandate for highway funds, had them put in thumb scanners and face scanners, digital photos, to get a driver's license.

02:47:53.000 I didn't even know about it until I went to renew my driver's license and saw it, so I didn't do it, so I went and got a protest going, came back, videotaped it, it's in my film, America Destroyed by Design. 0.97

02:48:04.000 And when I got arrested protesting, and I got hundreds of calls over the years, It was still a minority of people, but hundreds of calls on air and emails and stuff going, you idiot! 0.98

02:48:14.000 You didn't want to get thumb scanned, but you sure did when you got arrested. 1.00

02:48:18.000 You ended up getting fingerprinted.

02:48:20.000 Their mindset was me, me, me, or self.

02:48:23.000 As if I personally didn't want to do it, so I was there for myself.

02:48:28.000 I was doing it for humanity against tyranny.

02:48:31.000 It's like saying Rosa Parks failed on the bus because she got arrested anyways.

02:48:35.000 Well no, she drew attention to it. 0.69

02:48:37.000 So that was the whole point.

02:48:38.000 I'm not saying you're thinking about yourself, you know, because you're bringing up this question.

02:48:43.000 It's a good question.

02:48:44.000 What I'm saying is, is that those that made fun of me were.

02:48:47.000 But again, instead of just disabling the system or fooling with the money, what I'm saying is, go to the government, expose it, speak out against it.

02:48:58.000 Just like the RFID industry, they're now having to back off.

02:49:00.000 They're in a lot of trouble.

02:49:01.000 They're being exposed.

02:49:03.000 That's where the power's at.

02:49:05.000 Okay.

02:49:06.000 You know, so that's the point I was trying to make, is that we're exposing the system.

02:49:11.000 For those who said, ha ha, you got arrested, well that was the whole point.

02:49:14.000 I'm here with eight forms of identification, can't get a driver's license, because I got a thumb scan and it's part of a federal database for a cash flow society sales tax.

02:49:22.000 I said that in 97.

02:49:23.000 Now, what, six, seven years later, it's all coming true.

02:49:29.000 Unfortunately, because I read the federal plans, I read the federal law.

02:49:32.000 Now, what they also passed as law is urine and blood tests and you get a driver's license.

02:49:38.000 They haven't implemented that.

02:49:39.000 See, there's a lot of stuff they've passed that's not enforced.

02:49:44.000 And you tell a cop about it, they laugh at you until the day they put it in, and oh yeah, that's true.

02:49:48.000 Okay, and we're out of time for this segment.

02:49:50.000 We'll have to come back and take, well, no, no more calls.

02:49:53.000 We'll have to cover some more news here.

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02:53:56.000 You know I'm not putting a good face on this.

02:53:58.000 I'm not cheerleading.

02:54:00.000 Instead of covering, you know, 20 articles quickly here, you should just go to the websites or tune in tomorrow, or tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:54:07.000 I mean, I talked about the last few years, the awakening I was seeing, people becoming more attuned to what's happening, you know, in their bones, in their guts, in their spirit, as the Bible says.

02:54:20.000 Two of the wickedness all around us, and it's about time.

02:54:23.000 I mean, stuff's out of control.

02:54:26.000 A lot of you aren't out on the front lines, you're not talking to people every day, you don't have a TV show so people don't recognize you and talk to you, but I'd say if I'm in the grocery store and stop and start talking to people, about 80% stop and agree.

02:54:42.000 That's just here in Austin, obviously we've saturated this area more than other places, but I mean, I was on Coast to Coast AM.

02:54:49.000 For three hours, and when they took calls, every caller agreed.

02:54:53.000 But I'm on other, you know, mainstream, what you'd call mainstream shows, and almost everyone calls in and agrees.

02:54:59.000 And I talk about that at least once a week, because it's such good news, but just the awakening is even accelerating more than it's ever been.

02:55:06.000 And people are so tuned in to what's going on, and so receptive now to the truth.

02:55:13.000 And I just got, you know, a couple little websites that get 20 million visitors a month now.

02:55:20.000 And there's thousands of other sites and hundreds that are bigger than mine.

02:55:25.000 You know, that are telling the truth and pointing out lies.

02:55:28.000 And we're affecting the government.

02:55:29.000 We're affecting and exposing these liars and affecting and exposing the mainstream neocon socialist media.

02:55:35.000 And so thank God, all the glory goes to God.

02:55:37.000 I mean, I pray for America, pray for the good people in America that are getting the word out.

02:55:42.000 You know, I thank you for all your prayers.

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02:56:02.000 Pray for all the murdered unborn children and what they're doing to the old people, too, with the eugenics and the euthanasia. 0.98

02:56:10.000 Just get involved and be part of history on the side of goodness, and just get past your fear and say, look, it's better to stand up and fight these people than grovel and lick their boots.

02:56:20.000 But there's a lot of neutral people who aren't really neutral.

02:56:25.000 Through their subconscious cowardice or through their ignorance, they go along with the system.

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02:57:47.000 The awakening is taking place.

02:57:50.000 When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Lord will lift up a standard against it.

02:57:54.000 Be that standard.

02:57:55.000 Right to me at 3001 South Lamar, L-A-M-A-R, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.

02:58:04.000 Want to say hi to my cousin driving along on Manchac Boulevard right now.

02:58:11.000 Hi, Buckley.

02:58:12.000 Say hi to my wife and everybody else.

02:58:15.000 Again, I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central.

02:58:18.000 We will re-air the Colonel Don DeGramme pre-interview in the second two hours tomorrow.

02:58:22.000 In the first hour, we're going to have Erskine of Erskine Overnight with his great syndicated show.

02:58:27.000 He'll be filling in for me the first hour with the latest news and your calls.

02:58:30.000 So join us back tomorrow, 11 to 2 during the day.

02:58:32.000 Central, back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:58:34.000 Now get out there and take a look.

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Alex Jones Show - March 18, 2004

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