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00:00:03.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:20.000 Alright, my friends.

00:00:21.000 Another week of broadcast is about to conclude here in just a few hours.

00:00:25.000 Time is just flying past us.

00:00:26.000 It is the 26th day of March 2004.

00:00:27.000 my friends time is just flying past us it is the twenty sixth day of

00:00:41.000 march two thousand and four i'm alex jones your host and we'll be live the

00:00:46.000 next three hours we have tom flocko joining us and uh... tom is a journalist

00:00:52.000 who's written for major publications like worldnet daily and

00:00:55.000 Newsmax!

00:00:57.000 He's an investigative reporter.

00:00:58.000 He's been at all of the whitewash hearings that have been open to the public.

00:01:02.000 He's broken dozens of major news stories concerning 9-11, and with some of the latest revelations, he'll be bringing those forward in the second hour, so in about 59 minutes.

00:01:16.000 In the third hour, Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster has some amazing predictions.

00:01:22.000 An economist, of course, former army intelligence.

00:01:25.000 We'll talk about the economy and also his take on the Madrid bombings in the third hour.

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00:01:46.000 nine nine two three one websites are in a poll wars dot

00:01:53.000 on the and prison planet dot com both updated daily for you you know i mentioned that there's a unicef nigerian polio

00:02:02.000 vaccine contaminated with sterilizing agents

00:02:06.000 scientists finds i i i i I covered this in the third hour.

00:02:09.000 I didn't spend enough time on it.

00:02:11.000 I'm going to cover it for five minutes or so in this first hour after I get some more in the news because this just shows you The mindset of the globalists, caught red-handed, and how any of us could trust any vaccines, or the water, or anything the government's providing us, is insane.

00:02:33.000 And I'll go over some of the history of the mass sterilization program going on.

00:02:36.000 You wonder why the women are becoming infertile while the men are. 1.00

00:02:39.000 A lot of it is by design.

00:02:41.000 This is confirmed from official Australian, British, EU, US government documents.

00:02:48.000 So that's coming up.

00:02:50.000 China says it won't sit by if Taiwan turmoil worsens after the President and the Vice President got shot last Friday, seven days ago.

00:03:00.000 We will also then get into two bills now pending to bring back the draft, and they're very close to passing.

00:03:10.000 We'll go over those.

00:03:11.000 GPS tracks state youth offenders moving in with Big Brother.

00:03:16.000 Civil Liberties Group's cry foul over EU anti-terrorism plans getting rid of all their freedoms just like the Patriot Act.

00:03:22.000 Blair to offer Libya military training.

00:03:25.000 We've always been at war with East Asia. 1.00

00:03:27.000 We've never been at war with East Asia.

00:03:29.000 It's just one day they're the enemy, next day they're the friend.

00:03:33.000 So we'll get into Blair's horrific plan to sell arms to Libya.

00:03:36.000 Well, Israel's always selling them to Iran. 0.52

00:03:40.000 Also, U.S.

00:03:40.000 sent medically unfit soldiers to Iraq.

00:03:43.000 Pentagon acknowledges?

00:03:46.000 That's just some of what's coming up.

00:03:48.000 There is so much that we'll be covering here on the show today.

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00:08:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 All right, my friends.

00:08:22.000 It is Friday, the 26th of March, 2004.

00:08:25.000 In about 52 minutes, we're going to have Tom Flacco, investigative journalist, writer for Newsmax, World Net Daily, you name it.

00:08:33.000 Joining us, he's covered all the public hearings, the last two whitewash commissions, and he'll get into some of the latest, I mean, smoking gun, cover-up, prior knowledge information, press conferences that have been given by witnesses that you never see on the nightly news, despite the fact that masses of cameras surround these individuals that are bringing this information forward.

00:08:59.000 Then in the third hour, Bob Chapman, economist, Author, of course, former Army intelligence will get into the economy, the plunging dollar, and what he thinks about the Madrid bombings over in Spain from his educated point of view that I concur with by the way.

00:09:17.000 So that's coming up in the second and third hours, of course, as I said, wide open phones, 800-259-9231.

00:09:22.000 eight hundred two five nine nine two three one about thirty minutes or so i will air a clip

00:09:30.000 uh... that uh... that uh... we posted on prison planet dot com that originated

00:09:36.000 from the richard millhouse nixon presidential library

00:09:42.000 We'll see you next time.

00:09:43.000 Now, I first read an Associated Press article, I guess six years ago, when I was doing research, or five years ago, when I was doing research on Bohemian Grove and Tex Mars' archives.

00:09:56.000 He has several rooms just full of files And it quoted Richard Nixon as talking about Bohemian Grove in a bad light.

00:10:06.000 And so I've mentioned that article on air.

00:10:09.000 I've talked about it.

00:10:11.000 Well, lo and behold, we posted this on PrisonPlanet.com, where Richard Nixon has some interesting things to say about the Bohemian Grove.

00:10:25.000 And I'm sure a lot of you have heard other presidential phone call conversations from LBJ, Kennedy, even Reagan.

00:10:33.000 They're not very high quality.

00:10:35.000 I mean, if you listen carefully, you can hear everything he's saying on the website.

00:10:39.000 We're going to broadcast it.

00:10:41.000 So you definitely do not want to miss that when it's coming up a little bit later in the show.

00:10:52.000 Oh.

00:10:53.000 Right now, though, I want to continue with the news.

00:10:58.000 And I want to go back to an article that I covered a little bit yesterday, but not properly.

00:11:03.000 Because it's such a big deal, it's such a smoking gun into the mindset of the globalists and the criminal activities they're engaged in.

00:11:14.000 Now, by turn of the century, they had the social Darwinists, the H.G.

00:11:19.000 Wells types of the world, who were calling for a new world order, who were calling for sterilizing most of the people of the planet, who were calling for a one-child policy.

00:11:28.000 They had the Malthusian view that the masses of people dying was no big deal.

00:11:36.000 And there are literally hundreds and hundreds of prestigious publications over just the last few decades.

00:11:43.000 And this is what you'll hear at any martini party with the sociology or biology professors at a major university.

00:11:52.000 The people bomb! 0.98

00:11:53.000 How we've got to get rid of 80 to 95 percent of the population. 0.75

00:11:58.000 Prince Philip in his own publication of I Was an Animal that he wrote in 1987 says, I'd like to come back as a particularly deadly virus. 0.83

00:12:05.000 To kill 80-plus percent of the population. 0.95

00:12:10.000 Ted Turner, back in the mid-90s, actually 1997, at a press dinner live on C-SPAN said, and it was also picked up by Audubon Magazine, that we need to kill 95% of the useless feeders. 0.99

00:12:24.000 That, by the way, is an Adolf Hitler quote. 0.69

00:12:28.000 Margaret Sanger gave awards to Hitler, got awards from Hitler, helped them set up their eugenics program. 0.89

00:12:33.000 Planned Parenthood today in this country.

00:12:35.000 And we have the 1973 declassified documents of Dr. Henry Kissinger, declassified in 1992.

00:12:41.000 We've posted those on the main page many, many times.

00:12:45.000 Just use the search engine on InfoWars.com, type in Henry Kissinger, you know, population control programs, it should pop up for you.

00:12:54.000 And they told the five most populous third world countries, sterilize half of your population or you'll get no IMF or World Bank money.

00:13:02.000 And then all over the globe, from India to China to Nigeria, they would just go around grabbing poor women and would tie their tubes. 0.90

00:13:13.000 So, this is going on.

00:13:15.000 This is their program.

00:13:16.000 This is what they're up to.

00:13:18.000 This is what they believe in.

00:13:21.000 And a major pro-life group in Canada, LifeSite, took several mainstream articles and put their own story together, and they reported years ago that it's not the first time that UNICEF has been embroiled in a controversy over sterilizing agents and vaccines.

00:13:37.000 They reported that in 1995, the Catholic Women's League of the Philippines won a court order halting a UNICEF anti-tetanus program because the vaccine had been laced with B-HCG.

00:13:49.000 Which, when given a vaccine, permanently causes women to be unable to sustain a pregnancy. 0.79

00:13:55.000 And it says, um, the Supreme Court of the Philippines found the Surreptitious Sterilization Program had already vaccinated 3 million women, ages 12 to 45.

00:14:05.000 B-HCG, Lace Vaccine, was also found in at least 4 other developing countries.

00:14:12.000 Now, A top Indian scientist from India did a test of vaccines being used in Africa and India, other third world countries, at one of the most prestigious laboratories in India.

00:14:24.000 And they found a new sterilizing agent bonded to the pathogen in the vaccine.

00:14:32.000 That is what the body creates an autoimmune response to.

00:14:34.000 They bind it to other chemicals or Other living agents, depending on which one they choose to use, and then it sterilizes the woman. 1.00

00:14:45.000 And time and time again, when the UN gets caught doing this, with different manufacturers in different countries magically, you know, these expensive synthetic products get added, agents get added, they say, oh, it's an accident.

00:14:56.000 But it's not an accident, because the programs are only for women. 0.91

00:14:59.000 This is sold as UN funding for women's health programs, which all your loving liberals go out and lobby for.

00:15:06.000 More for women. 0.98

00:15:07.000 Women deserve it. 1.00

00:15:08.000 Oh, you certainly do, the globalists say.

00:15:10.000 And so they go out and target women because this stuff wouldn't hurt men.

00:15:15.000 It wouldn't sterilize men.

00:15:17.000 They have other ways of doing that.

00:15:20.000 The water supply, chemically, they admit.

00:15:23.000 I have dozens and dozens, actually hundreds of major studies, top scientists, epidemiologists, biologists on this show.

00:15:29.000 I mean, Nobel Prize winners have been on this show.

00:15:32.000 Sodium fluoride, in even low levels, reduces your sperm count massively.

00:15:36.000 And that's why in countries that have been fluoridating, you have 75 to 85% reductions in sperm counts and sterility in millions and millions of men.

00:15:46.000 But continuing with this article, UNICEF Nigerian polio vaccine contaminated with sterilizing agents.

00:15:53.000 Scientist finds a UNICEF campaign to vaccinate Nigeria's youth against polio may have been a front for sterilizing the nation.

00:16:02.000 Dr. Haruna Taita, a Pharmacological Scientist and Dean of the Facility of Pharmacological Sciences of Abud Velo University in Zaire, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis.

00:16:18.000 Using World Health Organization recommended technologies like gas chromatography, or GC, and radio Immunoassay, Dr. Katia, upon analysis found evidence of serious contamination, quote, some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic, some have direct effects on human reproductive systems.

00:16:40.000 He said in an interview with the Weekly Trust newspaper, quote, I have some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the lab and could not believe the discovery, he said.

00:16:51.000 When asked by the Trust newspaper why the doctor felt the drug manufacturers would have contaminated the oral polio vaccine, he gave three reasons.

00:17:00.000 These manufacturers, or promoters of these harmful things, have a secret agenda, which only further research can reveal.

00:17:07.000 Well, we've done that research, sir.

00:17:09.000 Secondarily, they have always taken us in the third world for granted, thinking we don't have the capability, capacity, knowledge, and equipment to conduct tests that would reveal such contaminants.

00:17:19.000 And very unfortunately, they also have people to defend their atrocities within our midst.

00:17:23.000 You know, we're paid off.

00:17:25.000 And worse still, some of these are supposed to be our professionals who we rely on to protect our interests.

00:17:31.000 The doctor is demanding that those who imported this fake drug in the name of polio vaccines be prosecuted like any other criminal.

00:17:41.000 Now, about six months ago, I visited my doctor.

00:17:43.000 I hadn't had a checkup in years, and I visited the doctor.

00:17:49.000 He was a mainstream medical doctor, and he was telling me we were having a discussion about vaccines.

00:17:54.000 He said, you know, Alex, I was working in a major clinic here, Because I won't tell you the names, I know you'll go on the air with it, but he said they were still giving.

00:18:01.000 He said last month, so this is seven months ago.

00:18:03.000 He said they were still giving the oral polio vaccine despite the fact that it's not supposed to be used in America because they admit that it has SV40, a very aggressive, deadly form of cancer virus.

00:18:20.000 This monkey virus.

00:18:21.000 Humans didn't have all these new weird forms of cancers.

00:18:23.000 They admit it's causing them.

00:18:24.000 I mean, weird cancers in the brain that look like purple yogurt.

00:18:28.000 I mean, these are the descriptions.

00:18:30.000 All these new horrible cancers.

00:18:32.000 I mean, it's just un... flesh-eating cancers.

00:18:37.000 Just accelerated cancers.

00:18:40.000 Again, they banned it in the use in the western world because they admit it's deadly, but it continues for the third world, and he said, oh, they're still giving this 30 year old vaccine right here in Austin, Texas.

00:18:52.000 How many of you listening in Austin went and slurped it down with pleasure?

00:18:58.000 Because you didn't want to believe that radical Alex Jones.

00:19:02.000 That guy that makes up stuff about an imaginary group called Skull and Bones and that crazy who believes there's a world government as the presidents announce it.

00:19:11.000 I mean, this is the horror, my friends.

00:19:13.000 I hope you'll go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com And I hope you'll read these news articles.

00:19:20.000 I mean, just a month ago it came out.

00:19:21.000 CDC's own documents.

00:19:23.000 They admit it's brain damaging tens of thousands of children every year.

00:19:26.000 Millions have been damaged in the aggregate by the thimerosal mercury.

00:19:29.000 It's gonna continue.

00:19:31.000 They talked about the documents, how to cover it up, how to continue it.

00:19:35.000 Why have we stopped it?

00:19:36.000 They'll get wise.

00:19:37.000 We've gotta continue.

00:19:38.000 I mean, how do they sleep at night?

00:19:41.000 It's part of a concerted program.

00:19:46.000 The brain damage you, and when you get overly brain damaged, then you get the autism.

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00:24:43.000 Bud in Texas.

00:24:44.000 Bud, you're on the air.

00:24:45.000 Go ahead.

00:24:46.000 Hey Alex, you do a heck of a job.

00:24:50.000 Immigration, or illegal immigration, or whatever is my hot button issue, and I'd love to tell everybody about the East Austin, largely Mexican neighborhood that I live in, and what they would expect, but in the interest of brevity, I was wondering if you could tell me what an administrative judge does, because I have a problem with a criminal that I believe is protected. 0.99

00:25:17.000 And I want to know how much danger I might be in by taking action.

00:25:24.000 Well that's probably not enough info for me to come up with an answer for you.

00:25:30.000 Let's go back to the immigration issue.

00:25:34.000 Are there masses of illegals in your neighborhood? 0.94

00:25:38.000 Oh yeah.

00:25:39.000 Well, I mean, sure.

00:25:40.000 I mean, when I call PD, for instance, to say, you know, ask for parking enforcement, because they like to park on the sidewalk, you know, I don't know if that's just the way they do things.

00:25:49.000 But, you know, and I'm calling off a plate number, they're like, you know, that's too many numbers.

00:25:54.000 No, this one's from, you know, Michigan or whatever, you know.

00:25:57.000 I mean, there's Ah, the park nearby.

00:26:01.000 You know, I walk the dog out there.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, this is the frustration, is that as citizens, whether we're Hispanic or black or white or polka-dotted, we're under all these new rules, all this oppression, but foreigners, whether it be from Mexico or Russia, we always talk about Mexico, because that's the majority, have more rights than citizens, get more tuition, more welfare. 0.98

00:26:19.000 It's designed that way.

00:26:21.000 Sure.

00:26:22.000 But getting back to administrative judges and administrative courts, I don't know which administrative court you're talking about, but a lot of these are over color of law, government just creates new jurisdictions, new bodies, and then they go out and engage in quasi-governmental activities, and the Constitution's null and void in their courts, so I don't, you know... Well, I guess what I'm seeing is, is all the functionaries, like PD, Power Company, Legal Aid, You know, they're all like, you know, well this guy's crooked, you know, be careful of him.

00:26:52.000 You know, but yet, you know, you've got drugs.

00:26:56.000 That's the problem with a corrupt society.

00:26:58.000 This happened in Nazi Germany.

00:27:00.000 Well, I guess my question is... Well, let me just go over this, since you bring it up.

00:27:03.000 This is what happens in a corrupt society, is that you've got the big criminals, and then all their minion criminals, and they protect them, and then they just start feeding on people, and then it becomes a third world system, and then why should anybody work hard, because somebody will just take it from you, and then everybody just gets lazy, and then we stop progressing.

00:27:21.000 Apathy is a terrible thing, yeah, you're right.

00:27:25.000 Finish up real quick here.

00:27:27.000 Okay, so I'm just trying to discern whether going to the FBI is a wrong move because obviously... You know, occasionally going to the FBI is not a bad thing.

00:27:40.000 I went to the FBI about eight years ago when I had a satanic cult after me.

00:27:46.000 This even ended up in the newspaper.

00:27:48.000 And they sent four thugs to attack me in a parking lot, and I found out about some of their activities and what they were doing.

00:27:55.000 And I did call the FBI, and the FBI really did go after him, and they disappeared and quit messing with me.

00:28:01.000 And this is what I've explained.

00:28:02.000 The low-level FBI guy that investigates bank robberies or, you know, money laundering or whatever at the low level is a good person.

00:28:10.000 Then it's the counter-terrorism divisions that are the criminals, so it's kind of a separation of division of labor there.

00:28:18.000 But yeah, I mean, sometimes the FBI really will do something.

00:28:21.000 Thanks for the call.

00:28:22.000 I appreciate that call.

00:28:24.000 Let's talk to Emo, I believe, in Pennsylvania.

00:28:27.000 Go ahead.

00:28:28.000 Hi, Alex.

00:28:30.000 I wanted to follow you.

00:28:31.000 I haven't called in a long time.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, I really appreciate what you're doing.

00:28:35.000 It takes a lot of fortitude to do what you're doing.

00:28:38.000 Well, thank you, but I'm just doing my duty.

00:28:40.000 Go ahead.

00:28:41.000 I wanted to call and ask you, I sent an email in reference to some things that are flying around about NASARA, N-E-S-A-R-A dot U-S.

00:28:50.000 Yes, it's not real.

00:28:52.000 It's government disinfo.

00:28:55.000 The government secretly is good and never mind the Patriot Act.

00:28:58.000 Everything's about to be perfect.

00:29:00.000 I just lay down and everything's fine.

00:29:03.000 It's not true.

00:29:05.000 It's a fraud.

00:29:06.000 Right.

00:29:06.000 That's what I thought after reading into this.

00:29:08.000 I was like, wait a minute, something's not right here.

00:29:12.000 There's a magical secret law they passed and the government's going to give you all your rights back and the New World Order was defeated and just go back to sleep. 1.00

00:29:19.000 It's total garbage. 1.00

00:29:20.000 Right. 0.99

00:29:23.000 And I bought that Berkey light, too.

00:29:25.000 That product that you're selling.

00:29:25.000 That's awesome.

00:29:27.000 That's amazing.

00:29:28.000 Stop drinking the poison.

00:29:28.000 Well, good job.

00:29:29.000 You've done that, and good job.

00:29:31.000 Amen.

00:29:31.000 I had another question for you.

00:29:32.000 I'm wondering if I could get to it.

00:29:34.000 I'll answer it after the break.

00:29:34.000 Go ahead and throw it out.

00:29:35.000 Okay, about what are we supposed to do, like, with the driver's license and stuff like that.

00:29:39.000 A lot of us are standing up and sending them back.

00:29:41.000 What should we do now that we did that?

00:29:43.000 Okay, what do we do about the biometric national ID card known as the driver's license?

00:29:46.000 We'll be back to answer that question.

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00:32:57.000 Coming up, Tom Flocko, investigative journalist, writes for World Net Daily, Newsmax, you name it.

00:33:21.000 He's been there since day one of the two different whitewash commissions in Congress, at Congress. 0.52

00:33:28.000 And a bunch of new, big smoking gun developments, cover-ups of prior knowledge, you name it.

00:33:33.000 We'll talk about that from an eyewitness to all of this.

00:33:37.000 Coming up in the next hour, then in the third hour, Bob Chapman, economist, former Army intelligence, to talk about the plunging dollar, the economy, his take on the Madrid bombings and much more.

00:33:46.000 Of course, more of your calls coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:33:50.000 A caller in Pennsylvania was just bringing up the driver's license, the biometric driver's license, federally funded, going in in almost every state, and he said, what do you do about it?

00:33:59.000 Well, in 97 I went in and protested and got arrested at the DPS with about a hundred protesters here in Austin.

00:34:06.000 And I put it at the end of my first film, America Destroyed by Design, the last 20 minutes is the protest and my arrest and what the biometric plan is.

00:34:15.000 Now you can see everything I claimed in that film coming true in the grocery stores and the theme parks and the school buses and the public schools, no food allowed without thumb scanning, no cash allowed.

00:34:26.000 He asked, what do you do?

00:34:27.000 I mean, It's like living in Russia, you know, and going, well, a national ID card is wrong, but if you're going to be fighting it, you've got to have the national ID card, I guess, to go about your business in the country fighting the tyranny.

00:34:41.000 And so about a year ago, before 9-11, I could still get on planes with my old driver's license or passport, but now without it, you can't get on planes.

00:34:50.000 And so I said, well, will I stop flying places?

00:34:53.000 Will I not fly to L.A.

00:34:54.000 to go on national television?

00:34:56.000 Or will I not fly to Florida to expose corruption?

00:35:00.000 So I went and thumb scanned and got the driver's license.

00:35:03.000 My point was, exposing what this system is, you need to get people behind a movement to repeal this and not go along with it.

00:35:10.000 So it's up to you what you're going to do, but it's very, very serious.

00:35:16.000 It's a federal program of total control to track everything you do.

00:35:20.000 And they're going to move towards Making you swipe your ID card, your driver's license, which is your national ID card, in your face.

00:35:27.000 When you buy anything, because that'll be part of the new national sales tax.

00:35:30.000 They're getting you ready for this if you buy cold medicine, or cigarettes, or beer.

00:35:35.000 Oh, we gotta swipe your card.

00:35:36.000 Many states do this just to make sure that you're as old as you say you are.

00:35:42.000 Or because you're buying cold medicine, it could be for making drugs.

00:35:46.000 So they're preparing you for this, and now the thumb scanners are going in.

00:35:49.000 They're getting rid of the people at the checkout counters, and then the thumb scanners go in after the self-checkout goes in.

00:35:56.000 This is all part of the program of control.

00:35:58.000 Before I go back to your calls, John and Don and Kevin and Chris and many others that are patiently holding, on PrisonPlanet.com right now we have a clip from the Presidential Library of Richard Milhouse Nixon.

00:36:16.000 And again, I have an AP article from years ago where they talk about Mr. Nixon openly discussing In one of the recorded conversations there at the White House, how he hates Bohemian Grove, you know, how he's been there, and how it's, quote, the most faggy, bleep bleep thing, you know, place he's ever been.

00:36:40.000 And I pointed this out, you know, in the film and on the air, because everybody that went there didn't love it.

00:36:46.000 Ronald Reagan said he didn't like it in recorded transmissions.

00:36:52.000 Nixon said it, but the point is they had to go there to be part of the power structure.

00:36:56.000 They had to be there when they did the rituals.

00:36:58.000 They had to do all of this.

00:37:02.000 And, you know, the Washington Times reports, you know, how they run around naked in the woods.

00:37:07.000 That's the Washington Times.

00:37:07.000 It's in my film.

00:37:08.000 The first 20 minutes of the film is just news articles and documents and autobiographies of prime ministers and chancellors and people talking about the rituals, talking about what goes on.

00:37:18.000 Major publications have reported they bus in the male and female prostitutes for them. 0.76

00:37:22.000 And the point is, this is all off limits.

00:37:24.000 We're just not supposed to discuss how our Christian conservative leaders, supposedly, ...are attending this.

00:37:29.000 And I have photos from their own annals, from the 86 to 96 annals, posted on Infowars.com, of George Bush and his son, the current president, there at the Grove.

00:37:44.000 What, in 1993, the two of them, they're giving a speech beneath the owl!

00:37:49.000 This is a real place, it's been in the news, I got the footage of this.

00:37:52.000 Now this audio clip, when you listen to it online, these presidential tapes are already bad enough.

00:37:58.000 Let us look at it in order.

00:37:59.000 I don't want you interested in it, Stephanie.

00:38:00.000 you can clearly hear it online uh... we tried to clean up the club a little bit

00:38:04.000 you really got a stranger what he's saying we believe doubt some of nixon's

00:38:09.000 uh... profanities uh... here

00:38:12.000 but you can listen to the club on edited at prison planet dot com and info wars

00:38:16.000 dot com but go ahead and hit that clip stephanie

00:38:19.000 but you know

00:38:26.000 It's clear over this. I know that. But it isn't. It isn't just done. There are a lot of times.

00:38:30.000 Now, of the upper class, the San Francisco is that way.

00:38:34.000 Now, the only in-growth that I've had on top of these years and the others that come here, but it is the most faggy land that you will ever imagine in San Francisco probably because it's just terrible. 1.00

00:38:47.000 I mean, I'd wash my hands of anybody in San Francisco.

00:38:52.000 Really?

00:38:53.000 Well, it's a different set of values.

00:39:00.000 Okay, and sometimes when you take an audio clip and try to clean it up, it makes that weird computer noise in the background.

00:39:06.000 Stephanie, try to open that up off the website and just play it raw. 1.00

00:39:11.000 I mean, he says GD.

00:39:12.000 I consider that profanity.

00:39:14.000 I don't use that.

00:39:17.000 When he says it's the most faggy, then right there, pause, you know, fade the audio down for about a second or two.

00:39:23.000 I mean, you know, they use this on Rush Limbaugh show and everywhere else.

00:39:26.000 We try to have higher standards, but somehow, you know, Stephanie, you say that clip's better now.

00:39:31.000 Sounds worse, because online you can really hear what they're saying.

00:39:34.000 But, uh, alright, I'll tell you what, how about you try to record it onto the computer again, Stephanie, here I am giving him instructions live on air, and how about you record it on the computer and just not clean it up?

00:39:45.000 Because somehow I think the cleaning it up Somehow, put that computerized heterodyne noise on it, which seems to happen.

00:39:52.000 But again, I mean, off the presidential website, it's horrible enough, and then we put it on our site, and then we transfer it here.

00:40:00.000 It's an important piece of evidence, though.

00:40:02.000 I don't know if you can make out what he was saying.

00:40:03.000 I mean, I can make out some of it.

00:40:05.000 But later in the show, we'll try to play it raw without trying to clean it up, and maybe it'll be easier to hear.

00:40:13.000 Alright, let's...

00:40:15.000 Let's go ahead and take some more calls.

00:40:16.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Texas.

00:40:19.000 John, go ahead.

00:40:20.000 God bless you, Alex.

00:40:21.000 I'm going to try to be real brief.

00:40:22.000 Well, let me ask you a question.

00:40:23.000 Could you hear what Nixon was saying?

00:40:26.000 Sir, I couldn't understand it.

00:40:27.000 I was listening to it over the phone and I couldn't hear what he was saying.

00:40:31.000 Well, you can clearly hear it online, so I guess, but go ahead.

00:40:36.000 Anyway, I wanted to bring up two points I think you'll have an opinion on.

00:40:39.000 I'll be real brief because I know other people are waiting.

00:40:41.000 First one is, as you know, the Globalists are putting, quote-unquote, the protection of intellectual property as one of their big priorities.

00:40:50.000 And I sent you an email about Reuters now saying that they're going to be searching the Internet, or looking for anybody that's using any of their material, even if normally it'd be fair use, and go and ask them for copyright infringement.

00:41:01.000 The second point I wanted to bring up that I haven't heard you talk about was The performance by our Lord Bush in front of the television and radio commentators where he was doing things like getting under a desk and looking for the WMD and the comments about Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and all that stuff about Rumsfeld and the other people.

00:41:25.000 So anyway, those are my two points.

00:41:26.000 I appreciate hearing from him again.

00:41:27.000 God bless you, Alex.

00:41:29.000 Well, thank you.

00:41:30.000 I hope somebody will send me The video of that that was on C-SPAN.

00:41:34.000 I didn't see it.

00:41:35.000 I have the article here.

00:41:37.000 I mean, it's not half as bad as the stuff he said to Ozzy Osbourne.

00:41:41.000 You know, blood and hell and death and Sabbath bloody Sabbath and Bush laughing and cackling because they do stuff a lot more radical than that at Skull and Bones.

00:41:51.000 You know, getting in the coffins, doing all the bizarre, dark, masonic stuff that, well, we saw develop, unfortunately, out in Long Island just a few weeks ago.

00:42:01.000 So I don't know what to say about it.

00:42:03.000 Alex, what do you think about the Reuters thing about them going to be using that FAST search engine looking for anybody that's using any of their material that they haven't given their previous blessing to?

00:42:13.000 Well, I mean, this is all just fear-mongering.

00:42:15.000 The Internet is damaging the globalists.

00:42:18.000 And so it starts out with people that are ripping off music off the internet, which I've never done because I don't listen to a lot of music.

00:42:25.000 And then, oh, we've got to do this.

00:42:27.000 First it's Napster, then it's that.

00:42:29.000 And now, oh, we want to go after everything.

00:42:31.000 And so they go and arrest a bunch of old ladies and people because their grandchildren use their computers. 0.99

00:42:36.000 Or they don't arrest them, they sue them.

00:42:38.000 It's all fear-mongering.

00:42:40.000 There's billions of people online now, over a billion.

00:42:43.000 There's nothing they can do.

00:42:44.000 It's selective enforcement to try to scare people.

00:42:47.000 It's civil.

00:42:48.000 So it's a bunch of propaganda.

00:42:49.000 Thank you for the call.

00:42:50.000 I appreciate the call, John.

00:42:52.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Don.

00:42:54.000 And Don, where are you calling us from?

00:42:57.000 Raleigh, North Carolina, Alex.

00:42:58.000 Welcome, sir.

00:42:59.000 Pleasure to speak with you.

00:43:01.000 On behalf of every American who cherishes freedom, liberty, and privacy, I want to thank you for doing your duty.

00:43:09.000 Thank you.

00:43:10.000 You've helped to inspire me to have the courage to try to wake up those around me to this evil that's going on around us.

00:43:17.000 What I'm calling today about is I wanted to alert the people in my area, especially here in North Carolina, to pay attention to what's going on in the sky.

00:43:29.000 And I don't know if this relates to what you were talking about earlier with the vaccines and who knows what they're spraying with these contrails, but I ventured outside of my area this morning, about 45 miles south of Raleigh, which gets you out in the country, and looked up in the sky, and it's a beautiful spring day, blue sky, very few clouds, and I saw a couple of jets going across the sky, and the contrails that they were leaving were minuscule.

00:43:58.000 They did not persist.

00:44:00.000 They evaporated and went away within a minute.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, that's a real contrail.

00:44:05.000 That's a real contrail.

00:44:08.000 You know, contrails don't form at 4,000 feet.

00:44:11.000 But right now, in the middle of the summer, the winter, it doesn't matter.

00:44:15.000 They do here, and they sit there for four or five hours.

00:44:18.000 That's not a condensation trail.

00:44:20.000 That's right.

00:44:20.000 Well, when I returned home, which is in a suburb of Raleigh, North Carolina this morning, around 11 o'clock or so, I looked up into the sky, and the sky was crisscrossed with contrails, new ones, jets crossing our area.

00:44:38.000 Billowing out white, very brilliant looking vapor that persists.

00:44:47.000 And anyone that goes outside here right now can look up in the sky and probably see 10 or 15 of these things in the cloud banks that have formed and expanded.

00:44:56.000 What it reminds me of, I grew up on a farm here, and I used to put chemicals in water.

00:45:01.000 And some of the ways that these clouds are dispersing reminds me of the way chemicals disperse in water.

00:45:08.000 And it certainly makes me very concerned about what they're spraying over us.

00:45:15.000 Listen, I hear you and I appreciate the call, Don, there in Carolina.

00:45:19.000 Look, I just read an admitted official report that the U.N.

00:45:25.000 puts hormones in vaccines that sterilize women. 0.56

00:45:28.000 If they'll do that, they'll do anything.

00:45:31.000 They cannot be trusted.

00:45:33.000 Let's talk to Kevin in Pennsylvania.

00:45:34.000 Kevin, go ahead.

00:45:35.000 Hey, I called in a local talk show, Michael Smirconish, and they were talking about the 9-1-1 Commission.

00:45:42.000 I might have sounded a little crazy when I called in, but I said that it's all problem, reaction, solution.

00:45:49.000 It's a whitewash.

00:45:50.000 The government did 9-1-1.

00:45:52.000 It's too scarce in the submission.

00:45:55.000 One thing I did say a couple times is that Homeland Security and the Patriot Act are aimed at American citizens, and I gave your name and your website.

00:46:07.000 Did you notice, would you happen to notice a jump in hits on your website around?

00:46:12.000 Well, I hate to sound braggish, but I mean, sir, we get millions and millions of individual visitors every week now to the site, so I know I didn't... The whole Philadelphia area here that was listening at that time, that station, you know, I heard me call in.

00:46:34.000 Well, good job. No, I mean, that's certainly why we get millions of visitors is because people like you call into C-SPAN

00:46:40.000 and call into Sean Hannity and call into all these shows.

00:46:44.000 Hey, but what, I, and I, uh, does that make them angry, by the way, if you call into a normal talk show and give out,

00:46:50.000 you know, say stuff like that, like the government did?

00:46:53.000 No, I mean, it makes some shows mad and other shows like it because they think it's entertaining, it's interesting.

00:47:00.000 But, I mean, who cares what they think?

00:47:02.000 Yeah, but that's why the screener asked what you were going to say, because if you told the screener that, then they wouldn't let you on. 0.99

00:47:09.000 I mean, look, the quickest way to get on a neocon show is call up and say you're a liberal, act really stupid, and they'll get you on instantly. 0.98

00:47:09.000 Well, that's it. 0.98

00:47:17.000 If you call up and say I'm a conservative and Bush isn't a conservative, you're not going to get on the air.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, but it's all controlled.

00:47:24.000 Well, in some areas it is.

00:47:25.000 There are a lot of talk shows that aren't controlled, but there's not a lot of big syndicated ones that aren't.

00:47:30.000 This one's a local show that's, uh, that's very popular, and, uh, but I know that, see, I had to talk fast, because if I just talk normally, he's gonna cut me off before I make any good points.

00:47:42.000 Yeah.

00:47:42.000 Before I, you know, before I say anything substantial, you know.

00:47:45.000 So what did he say after you were on the show?

00:47:48.000 He, uh, he was asking about, he was asking me how did they, so how did they do it?

00:47:54.000 And it's like, I don't have anything in front of me, you know, and I'm all, You know, I'm all hyper saying things.

00:48:00.000 Well, you don't have a lot of time.

00:48:02.000 You say, look, we don't have time to get into all the details.

00:48:05.000 You need to research it.

00:48:08.000 Here's just a few case examples.

00:48:10.000 The Bushes are in business with the Bin Ladens. 1.00

00:48:12.000 They flew them out of the country on 9-11.

00:48:15.000 They warned Mayor Willie Brown not to fly to New York that day.

00:48:18.000 The CIA engaged in insider trading.

00:48:21.000 Some of the hijackers were trained at U.S.

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00:48:24.000 Nine of the 19 hijackers have been found to still be alive.

00:48:27.000 Just fire those out at them, and that's how you do it.

00:48:32.000 I hope a couple people, at least, that heard me, you know, went up to your site and, you know, maybe... Well, good job!

00:48:40.000 But I'll tell you another thing.

00:48:42.000 Just like you've been saying that, you know, years ago, like, half the people would disagree with you, and now you get fire pressed for you to find a caller that disagrees with you.

00:48:50.000 People on the street now, that I talk to, Only once in a while I get somebody that will disagree.

00:48:57.000 A lot of people that I talk to, they're like, yeah, you know what?

00:49:00.000 It doesn't look like the government did it.

00:49:02.000 That's it.

00:49:03.000 I appreciate the call.

00:49:03.000 Everybody knows the truth deep in their guts.

00:49:06.000 And they've got a soul.

00:49:08.000 Now, the wicked of the world are blind, but yes sir, yes sir, that's what we've seen.

00:49:13.000 It's very encouraging to hear that from you.

00:49:16.000 Thank you.

00:49:17.000 I'm going to come back at some news, and then we've got a guest coming up.

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00:55:26.000 China says it won't sit by if Taiwan turmoil worsens.

00:55:29.000 Reuters reports that China, in its strongest statement yet on the political crisis convulsing Taiwan since its controversial election, warned on Friday it would not stand idly by if the situation on the island spirals out of control.

00:55:41.000 Quote, We will not sit by watching should the post-election situation in Taiwan get out of control, leading to social turmoil.

00:55:50.000 Endangering the lives and property of our flesh-and-blood brothers and affecting stability across the Taiwan Strait.

00:55:57.000 Yes, soon Taiwan you'll have mobile death vans for speaking out against the government and your churches will be shut down.

00:56:03.000 Soon you'll be living under the UN award-winning country's control.

00:56:06.000 Beijing's policy-making Taiwan Affairs Office said in a statement they will not sit idly by as their flesh and blood is hurt.

00:56:14.000 It reiterated that China was paying close attention to events on the island, which had been wracked by protests and political paralysis since President Xi Jinping, who favors Taiwan independence, won re-election by the thinnest of margins on Saturday.

00:56:28.000 The opposition immediately contested the result and demanded a recount.

00:56:34.000 So China's clearly trying to destabilize, and they may really shot him.

00:56:38.000 Some are saying now it's a staged shooting.

00:56:39.000 I don't know, isn't that kind of what the commies do?

00:56:43.000 Who knows, though?

00:56:45.000 This is an interesting little tidbit here for you.

00:56:48.000 Two bills now pending to bring back the draft.

00:56:50.000 There's actually about nine of them, but these are two that have been out of committee now.

00:56:55.000 H.R.

00:56:56.000 163, this is from the bill, to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in the furtherance of the national defense and homeland security and for other purposes.

00:57:08.000 We've read the other purposes.

00:57:10.000 Tattletale squads, gun-grabbing squads, checkpoint squads, environmental land-grab squads, literally.

00:57:17.000 Just everybody has to serve.

00:57:18.000 And some of the bills, it says 18 to 49.

00:57:20.000 S89 says to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security and for other purposes.

00:57:34.000 So it'll be a new type of draft.

00:57:36.000 Not where you join the military and go fight, but where you engage in Secure Corps and TIPS type programs.

00:57:43.000 Pretty scary stuff.

00:57:45.000 But again, we're in the new Stasi America. 0.89

00:57:50.000 After the Feds blow something else up, you better believe they're going to pass this.

00:57:53.000 They've said they will.

00:57:55.000 And I guess I'm going to be under it.

00:57:56.000 You know, I'm under 49 years of age.

00:57:59.000 If you read into these bills, 49 is a young person.

00:58:04.000 And, you know, I guess a lot of us will get arrested.

00:58:06.000 We refuse to go tattle on neighbors, help run checkpoints, help do environmental, you know, tattletailing.

00:58:12.000 I saw somebody leave a Coke can at the park.

00:58:15.000 I mean, literally, that's what they say they're going to do.

00:58:17.000 So imagine, you have to serve your 10 hours a week in the Homeland Brigade.

00:58:23.000 You have to volunteer your time, compulsory volunteerism, to watch the surveillance camera feeds from FEMA, the New York Times reported.

00:58:31.000 So Orwellian, it is unspeakable to try to even describe the bone-chilling nature of it.

00:58:39.000 Tom Flock goes up next.

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01:00:08.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:16.000 All right, my friends.

01:00:18.000 He's written for World Net Daily.

01:00:19.000 From the Wilderness Publications, Newsmax, Marco News, Judicial Watch, He's a retired school teacher, served 24 years in the Army as well.

01:00:34.000 He's been there at the two whitewash hearings, the two different fake commissions, both the congressional one and the latest kangaroo operation, kangaroo court operation.

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01:00:51.000 He just has a huge bio, done a lot of great work exposing the New World Order. 1.00

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01:01:03.000 He's done a lot of great work and yesterday we covered an article he broke because the media didn't want to cover this.

01:01:09.000 The lady was surrounded by cameras but didn't see it on the news. 0.99

01:01:13.000 Breaking special report, 9-11 hearings, DOJ, SFPI translator to change pre-9-11 intercepts.

01:01:20.000 And she was threatened with arrest if she didn't change him or testified about him.

01:01:24.000 And the same thing happened to FBI agent Robert Wright and countless others.

01:01:27.000 But this was there in the Capitol, but nobody seems to know about it.

01:01:31.000 Tom has broken a lot of other news, like the spokeswoman for the FAA admitting that the government called him in before planes were flying into buildings and was in control of the situation.

01:01:42.000 And that links in with the ABC News article about Cheney in control of the Bunkers that morning, even beforehand.

01:01:48.000 A giant staged event.

01:01:50.000 And Tom, good to have you on the show.

01:01:54.000 I appreciate you joining us, Tom.

01:01:56.000 I had a couple of very interesting days.

01:01:58.000 I was down there for a press conference on Monday, and I spent the whole day Tuesday and Wednesday, and it was quite tiring, but we knew it was going to be a pretty exhilarating experience because of the Just the people that were testifying that day.

01:02:12.000 Well, I want to go over, because you've been there, I want to go over the past few years, a year and a half, down there watching all this.

01:02:19.000 I want to go over the big smoking guns that haven't gotten reported and how the whitewash is progressing and where you think all this is going.

01:02:27.000 Well, I'll tell you, I personally, and I'm going to write about this.

01:02:30.000 I normally write a story that's kind of like geared toward one particular subject, but there were so many things that struck me in this hearing that I'm going to kind of do a new, you know, like a shadow, you know, 9-11 shadow news, the stuff that doesn't come out of the shadows type of thing.

01:02:43.000 And I literally had personal contact with five of the ten commissioners wherein I went and asked them, why aren't, why are you failing to use your subpoena power?

01:02:54.000 You know, and it's just incredible.

01:02:56.000 They just look at you, and I say, you know, I say, you know, the hijacking started at 10 after 8, the plane turned south at 8.20.

01:03:03.000 I'm just rattling stuff off.

01:03:05.000 23 minutes after 8, the man on Sweeney calls in and says, you know, we had a maybe possible gunshot.

01:03:10.000 A stewardess got her throat slit. 1.00

01:03:12.000 So we know that there's a hijacking going on at 10 after 20, after we know there were phone bridges at 20, 25, after we know that the President of the United States said, I know what's going on in New York City at 8.30 in the morning, and I'll have more if this is before he stepped into his limousine to go to the elementary school, and said, uh, you know, I know what's going on.

01:03:29.000 And this is all admitted, by the way?

01:03:30.000 Yes, all admitted, all reported by U.S.

01:03:32.000 journalists, 8.35 and 8.30.

01:03:34.000 We have an audio clip of Bush talking about seeing the first plane hit on television.

01:03:38.000 Oh, if, yeah, that's, I mean... But nobody else has seen that.

01:03:41.000 A lot of people don't realize, if you listen closely to the testimony, All American Airlines equipment was grounded at about 845.

01:03:47.000 I've got to go check that because I've got that.

01:03:50.000 I was taking notes and I've got to go back to my files.

01:03:52.000 But in that area.

01:03:53.000 So we're talking about a hijacking that the air traffic controller, the quote was, we determined it to be a hijacking at 810 or 813 in the morning.

01:04:02.000 813.

01:04:03.000 So that's just about two hours before the last plane crashed.

01:04:07.000 And it's about 30-35 minutes before the first plane crashed.

01:04:12.000 See, and so their actions, Alex, are indefensible.

01:04:16.000 And I've been saying this.

01:04:17.000 They're the actions of General Myers, who sat in his office.

01:04:20.000 He was the head of NORAD that shut everything down.

01:04:23.000 Now he got the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for his good work.

01:04:27.000 Right.

01:04:27.000 He was acting Joint Chiefs that day, the highest ranking general on U.S.

01:04:31.000 soil, when Tell you what, stay there.

01:04:34.000 We gotta come back and go over all this.

01:04:38.000 that other twenty-two twenty-two fifty point the other follows overseas

01:04:42.000 everybody was basically out of position but what's going on we gotta come back and uh...

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01:08:11.000 Your calls are coming up later in this hour, but we've got Tom Flacco, a military veteran, a journalist, writes for major publications, a retired school teacher.

01:08:20.000 I mean, he's done it all, and he's been down there at these whitewash, well, both the whitewash committees, the congressional one and this new one, and it's come out, you know, first off, let's impeach the committee itself.

01:08:34.000 Some of them had to testify secretly because they were involved in actually covering up 9-11 evidence before they were even on the commission.

01:08:40.000 That's correct.

01:08:41.000 Others are in business with Bush on a dozen different fronts.

01:08:45.000 Let's go over that first.

01:08:47.000 Well, they first tried to have Henry Kissinger as the head of it, calling him independent.

01:08:51.000 Let's go over that, then let's go through what you've seen happen in the committee and the witnesses that aren't ever brought forward that you then interview and that the media interviews, but then we never hear about because of the government gatekeepers inside of the mass media.

01:09:07.000 Well, what struck me right off the bat was the questioning seemed a little tougher.

01:09:12.000 However, as anyone who knows anything about the prosecutorial interrogation, it's the follow-up that's critical.

01:09:20.000 You mean, you telling me this?

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01:09:24.000 And there was no follow-up.

01:09:26.000 The follow-up was very weak to poor.

01:09:28.000 And that's where you're going to get some of the answers that you could get.

01:09:31.000 They never really... See, the families and the media, everybody knew that the Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld Well, let's go over the timeline later, but I mean, this is Shakespearean theater.

01:09:40.000 when he was told that the outfit with the phone bridges going on at least at fifteen twenty

01:09:45.000 twenty five minutes after the other one was a little bit on the line a lot of

01:09:48.000 lighter but i mean this shakespearean theater i mean the warren commission

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01:09:54.000 i mean you know This is theater.

01:09:57.000 They set up, but they don't bring up who called Condoleezza, you know, or, you know, why is it Condoleezza Rice here?

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01:10:04.000 They didn't bring up, you know, to the public, well, why were public officials told not to fly?

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01:10:14.000 I mean, none of that real stuff was brought up.

01:10:16.000 Well, there's been close to 1,000 behind-the-doors, behind-closed-doors interviews.

01:10:23.000 interviews and uh... by any number of individuals and that's the thing when

01:10:27.000 we have to trust the commission of compromise commission and which i get it to one second here the uh...

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01:10:40.000 through or blackouts from the from the white house but what we were doing uh... there was a big interest in philip

01:10:47.000 delica that The families were calling for him to resign immediately.

01:10:50.000 It was all in the hallways and a lot of the people that are listening to C-SPAN or watching C-SPAN don't realize that a lot of the action is taking place in between in these sidebar interviews with family members and some of the officials.

01:11:03.000 Now all the officials, Colin Powell, Armitage, Rumsfeld, none of them all came in from the side door.

01:11:09.000 None of them would Would stand for an interview in front of the media.

01:11:12.000 They all slipped outside doors coming in, going out so that you had no contact.

01:11:16.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:11:17.000 They're coming in through the back where the congressmen come in or the commissioners come in.

01:11:21.000 Even at the end, they allow a press conference.

01:11:23.000 I wasn't allowed to go to the press conference because I don't work for a recognized media like the Washington Post or something.

01:11:29.000 And so all of the hard questions being asked by a few of us who have spent a great deal of time Um, working with us.

01:11:36.000 That was totally left out.

01:11:37.000 And not only that, they moved the press conference to the Dirksen building from the heart.

01:11:41.000 So you had to walk over to it.

01:11:43.000 And then you had, they had somebody standing in the doorway checking credentials and so forth.

01:11:48.000 So, uh, I didn't even bother to go because the last time I did ask a hard question, they said, well, I'm not going to answer that now.

01:11:53.000 And you only get one question, but, but they've, they've changed that whole policy to basically shut out Anybody that's asking intrusive questions.

01:12:01.000 Well, I mean, let's go over that particular commissioner, who again, this is the Associated Press, admittedly involved in covering up 9-11 evidence for Bush, and then is a supposed independent commissioner.

01:12:12.000 Why are the families calling for this guy to resign?

01:12:14.000 Well, this is Philip Zelikow, and he is the staff director of the... staff director and executive director, and he has control over the flow of the whole investigation.

01:12:26.000 And what makes it interesting is that The two people, there were only two individuals who were allowed to see the presidential daily briefings and those briefings would indicate whether the president had prior knowledge

01:12:38.000 of planes used as weapons.

01:12:40.000 And actually, we're going to report because Timothy Romer said in his opening statement, he listed some of the areas about hijackings and planes used as weapons, and literally came out and delineated some of the aspects of what was in the August 6th briefing.

01:12:56.000 So he basically said it publicly, and yet the media, Alex, the media is not covering.

01:13:01.000 That was the most explosive thing.

01:13:03.000 And then Rumsfeld, or not Rumsfeld, Uh, was it Rumsfeld's testimony talked about hijacking?

01:13:09.000 I believe it was Rumsfeld's.

01:13:11.000 Um, it mentioned hijackings, um, or it was, uh, it was, uh, no, I knew it was, it was Tenet.

01:13:17.000 George Tenet, uh, was telegraphing the fact that hijackings were mentioned in some of the briefings.

01:13:24.000 That's mentioned in the transcript, so you can look at that.

01:13:26.000 But, uh, all of this, all of this came, kind of came to a head all at once.

01:13:31.000 And, and that's the, the amazing thing.

01:13:33.000 Zellico and Gorelick were the two that were picked.

01:13:36.000 Now, Philip Zelikow is not even appointed by Congress.

01:13:39.000 He's appointed by the staff.

01:13:41.000 So he directs the whole investigation.

01:13:44.000 He knows who's going to testify, when they're going to testify, what they said behind closed doors, what they might say, what questions are going to be asked, how they're going to be asked.

01:13:52.000 Everything.

01:13:52.000 He controls the total inner workings of the... Yeah, this is a kangaroo court.

01:13:58.000 Now, Philip Zelikow... And Tom, not just The overt cover-up and prior knowledge and involvement by the globalists, but just the body language of Powell and Armitage and all of them.

01:14:12.000 I mean, my wife walked in and saw Armitage up there and said, he looks like the kingpin.

01:14:16.000 Tenet looks like he's ready for the Sopranos.

01:14:19.000 You know, the arrogance, the smacking, the laughing.

01:14:22.000 We're talking about thousands of dead people and Armitage is just laughing and joking and rolling his eyes. 0.98

01:14:29.000 I mean, these are arrogant kingpins. 0.98

01:14:31.000 Well, they're also wealthy, arrogant kingpins. 0.98

01:14:34.000 They're totally above the people, and they're above scrutiny.

01:14:37.000 And when you've got somebody like Zelikow, who worked in the CIA, he worked for Senior Bush, he worked for James Baker, you know, we found all this stuff.

01:14:47.000 We were doing a deep Google search.

01:14:49.000 In other words, we were going back into page 40 and 50, you know, looking for everything.

01:14:55.000 And he wrote a book called Why People Can't Trust the Government with Two Other People. 0.81

01:14:59.000 And, you know, it's just amazing some of the things.

01:15:02.000 And he wrote a book with, I believe he wrote two books with Condoleezza Rice.

01:15:07.000 We have smacking, he was on the Bush transition team.

01:15:11.000 And then, and he's not even appointed, and he gets to look at all 4,000 plus PDBs, the Presidential Daily Briefings, and have access.

01:15:19.000 And then he and Gorelick, Jamie Gorelick, who's a member of President Bush's CIA Intelligence She's a member of the partner in the Wilmer Cutler and Pickering Law Firm, which is representing Prince Faisal in the terrorist finance probe that was brought by the victim family.

01:15:42.000 This is a supposed independent commission.

01:15:45.000 I want people to listen to this.

01:15:47.000 This is Bush talking about, on 9-11, before he goes out and reads a little goat story to the elementary school students.

01:15:53.000 This is Bush saying, oh yeah, he saw the plane crash, which no one had seen.

01:15:56.000 Six months later, the French video came out of it.

01:15:59.000 No one had footage of the first plane.

01:16:00.000 But he says he saw that first plane hitting the building.

01:16:03.000 Of course, before he claimed he first learned of all this, while reading a little goat story from his chief of staff, Mr. Card.

01:16:09.000 But again, here it is.

01:16:11.000 What do you think of that?

01:16:12.000 I was inside the classroom waiting to go in and I saw an airplane hit the tower.

01:16:19.000 The TV was obviously on and I used to fly myself and I said, there's one terrible pilot.

01:16:25.000 What do you think of that?

01:16:27.000 Yeah, I mean, there are so many issues here where you've got presidential knowledge of the hijacking.

01:16:35.000 Well, I'll tell you what, Tom, we're going to get into that in just a second because I want to go through the timeline and what you think some of the biggest smoking guns of prior knowledge and even involvement are, but for those that just missed it, here it is again.

01:16:44.000 I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower of a TV.

01:16:52.000 The TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot.

01:16:59.000 So what do you think of that?

01:17:01.000 Unbelievable.

01:17:02.000 But what can you say?

01:17:04.000 The public is totally unaware of this, the majority, you know, the overwhelming majority of the people.

01:17:10.000 There are just, you know, 30, 40, 50,000 people in the world that probably are well-read on 9-11 and understand and can articulate some of the issues and where the real problems lie.

01:17:20.000 But see, Gorelick and Zeliko get to pick these briefings, and the thing is, they get to choose Which briefings are promulgated forward for Chairman Keene and Vice Chairman Hamilton?

01:17:34.000 But then again, Keene and Hamilton are establishment whitewashers from a long time ago.

01:17:38.000 Hamilton goes back to the old Iran-Contra.

01:17:40.000 Many people claim that he had a part in calming down the Iran-Contra, the BCCI problem.

01:17:46.000 Yes, it's the same crew of kingpins.

01:17:50.000 Tom, let's go over some of the big smoking guns.

01:17:53.000 Well, first, let's do the timeline, you know, the obvious prior knowledge, then let's get into this major story you broke.

01:17:58.000 And again, the media was all around this lady, one of their codebreakers, one of their decipherers, and they told her, you shut up, we'll give you a better job if you don't, we're going to arrest you. 1.00

01:18:08.000 Yeah.

01:18:09.000 Let's go ahead and cover that now.

01:18:11.000 Yeah, it's just quite incredible.

01:18:14.000 I was walking around coming back You know, a quick run to the restroom.

01:18:19.000 I see Michael Isikoff, Kelly Wallace, and David Corn standing around Kristen Breitweiser.

01:18:25.000 And I went up and we're asking questions.

01:18:26.000 They asked a few and she's doing a lot of talking.

01:18:28.000 And the conversation kind of drifted, you know, to things that were happening.

01:18:35.000 You know, what did they know before the event?

01:18:37.000 Kristen's talking about it.

01:18:38.000 All of a sudden she says, wait a minute.

01:18:39.000 For those who don't know, tell us who this person is.

01:18:42.000 Kristen Breitweiser is probably the Right now, the number one spokesman for the 9-11 victim family.

01:18:51.000 She's generally the most articulate, quick-on-her-feet person who's able to bring forth the real issues.

01:19:00.000 She's one of the so-called Jersey Girls. 0.88

01:19:02.000 The women, Patty Kavazza, Lori Van Alken, and Kristen Breitweiser.

01:19:09.000 Okay, so you're there and they're talking inside the Capitol.

01:19:12.000 And so they're all talking.

01:19:15.000 So she says, wait a minute, I'll bring this woman back. 1.00

01:19:17.000 And there's a woman inside you need to need to listen to.

01:19:20.000 And so by now there's now about, you know, 10, 15 reporters all.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, we'll come back and talk about this and some of the other big smoking guns.

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01:24:07.000 I can tell it's very frustrating for Tom Flacco to try to go over all this information, give you all the details, because he's been in the middle of it, researching it for so long as a highly respected investigative journalist.

01:24:19.000 So just remember, Tom, a lot of people don't have the level of knowledge you do.

01:24:23.000 Just with bullet points, go through this major news story, and then some of the major smoking guns you've documented in the past year plus at these hearings.

01:24:33.000 So you've got this admitted FBI linguist, codebreaker, individual, You know, there's a story there that the media is all around her, with news cameras and the rest of it, and none of that makes it out.

01:24:46.000 That right there is a story.

01:24:47.000 Number two, she's not the only one.

01:24:49.000 There are probably 50 people that we know of, FBI, CIA, others, who've been told to shut up about prior knowledge.

01:24:57.000 Well, she's starting to talk, and at the time, this had been broken by CBS News on a short segment on one of their programs a year ago.

01:25:08.000 But the issue, what made it so important, was she was breaking much, much more new ground.

01:25:13.000 The issue before was, she was hired and she found some irregularities in the translations.

01:25:18.000 They weren't doing, it was shoddy, what she called shoddy translations.

01:25:21.000 I believe there was a... Yeah, CBS spun it that it was just laziness.

01:25:25.000 Yes, exactly.

01:25:27.000 But now we know it's John Ashcroft calling her saying, you want a big job or do you want to go to jail?

01:25:31.000 Well, that's the issue, of course.

01:25:35.000 She had said that she would go in and make a translation, and then she'd come back the next morning, and the translations would be missing, and she'd get all mad. 0.65

01:25:42.000 So it's not laziness, it's not them missing things?

01:25:45.000 Yeah, what they're doing is they're taking the translations off.

01:25:48.000 We're trying to teach you a lesson, I believe, with something said like that.

01:25:52.000 But when you get into the new allegations, she's fluent in Farsi and Turkish, She speaks the languages.

01:26:00.000 She's been working for the FBI for six months and that's all she said.

01:26:04.000 Now I got a chance that it was this about 40-50 people gathered around firing questions at her like crazy and she's talking and people are scribbling, we're scribbling notes down and then she walks away and then they put her in front of a whole bank of cameras and microphones with cameras running and they reiterate the whole thing all over again and ask her the same types of questions and now it comes out that You know, people are asking, were you bribed?

01:26:27.000 I guess you could interpret it as that.

01:26:29.000 Yeah, let me read her quotes.

01:26:31.000 In a 50 reporter frenzy in front of some 12 news cameras, Edmund said...

01:26:36.000 Attorney General John Ashcroft told me, quote, he was invoking state secret privilege and national security when I told the FBI I wanted to go public with what I had translated from the pre 9-11 intercepts, close quote.

01:26:48.000 Another quote, I appeared once on CBS 60 Minutes but I have been silenced by Mr. Ashcroft and the FBI follows me and I was threatened with jail in 2002 if I went public.

01:26:58.000 And it goes on.

01:26:59.000 That's correct.

01:27:00.000 The term came from the October 18, 2002 DOJ memo to me from DOJ spokesman Barbara Comstock telling her that it was a state secret privilege not to talk about it.

01:27:10.000 That's another quote.

01:27:11.000 There's a bunch of others we'll go into.

01:27:13.000 Please continue.

01:27:14.000 Well, exactly.

01:27:15.000 So Comstock had given her a memo.

01:27:18.000 Now, I got a chance to get Sabelle off to the side by myself with her.

01:27:23.000 And I asked her, you mean to tell me you were bribed?

01:27:26.000 Just trying to get her to reiterate, to verify this.

01:27:29.000 And I kept thinking, well, what's the big deal about the translations?

01:27:34.000 And I said, when did you start?

01:27:35.000 I want to get this.

01:27:36.000 She said, I started in December.

01:27:38.000 What year?

01:27:38.000 December of 2001.

01:27:39.000 And I'm thinking, I asked her, well, that's after the attacks.

01:27:43.000 And she said, but you don't understand.

01:27:45.000 I was asked to retranslate, was her word, and change the contents of Pre 9-11.

01:27:54.000 And they were covering up exactly what was in there.

01:27:58.000 In other words, just the transcripts.

01:28:00.000 This is them altering evidence for the whitewashed kangaroo commission. 0.73

01:28:04.000 And this is not a story!

01:28:05.000 This is not a story.

01:28:07.000 Alex, it's incredible.

01:28:08.000 I'm flabbergasted.

01:28:09.000 I do a search and I don't see anything.

01:28:11.000 This is one million times bigger than Nixon spying on the Democrats.

01:28:18.000 It's totally incredible and what makes it the biggest story is that it's not a story.

01:28:22.000 I mean, that's the caveat.

01:28:24.000 Side story.

01:28:26.000 I said to Kelly Wiles as I was by his side, I said, Kelly, I hope you're going to put this story on the air now.

01:28:31.000 I said, I'm going to go write it.

01:28:32.000 So what I did is I hightailed it downstairs.

01:28:34.000 I had left my cell phone.

01:28:35.000 It didn't charge right overnight, so I couldn't call right from the spot.

01:28:38.000 So now it's 12, 15, 12, 30.

01:28:41.000 And I sat down there on the floor with scribbled notes in my hand and just dictated a story into a hardline telephone to my webmaster.

01:28:50.000 And he was typing it as he went.

01:28:52.000 Couple of typos and things which I fixed when I got home.

01:28:54.000 This was at the tail end.

01:28:56.000 But I had that story out there around noon and I was thinking, man, I'm going to try at least maybe CNN will have it on and MSNB, they have their people.

01:29:04.000 I figured, heck, I found out that I might be the only one in the whole country that has this story in a line.

01:29:09.000 I'm totally flabbergasted.

01:29:10.000 And then I have the Chicago Sun-Times saying Homeland Security is basically running Hollywood, and we've got a $70 million fake newscast package running right now in the New York Times.

01:29:20.000 So, the media is controlled.

01:29:21.000 Did you find anybody else?

01:29:23.000 That ran this story?

01:29:24.000 No.

01:29:26.000 By the way, Tom's run a bunch of other stories that months later get picked up by the mainstream.

01:29:29.000 He's very credible.

01:29:30.000 Stay there, Tom.

01:29:31.000 We've got to come back.

01:29:31.000 I want to get into other big smoking guns that you've covered that nobody else has covered.

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01:33:01.000 you Written for WorldNet Daily, From the Wilderness, Newsmax.

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01:33:09.000 He's been there covering the 9-11 whitewash committee too, that they tried to have Henry Kissinger head up, but nobody bought that.

01:33:14.000 Everybody else involved in this thing has just as many connections to Lord Bush and James Baker and the rest of them.

01:33:20.000 Most of the committee members are in business with those testifying, literally.

01:33:24.000 But the media says it's independent, you can trust them.

01:33:26.000 We got a bunch of calls for you, Tom, but let's get into some of the other big smoking guns that have come out that nobody else has seen to report, or that they later kind of bring out and And watered down as well, and then let's get into the timeline of some of the key smoking guns on 9-11, and then we'll go to the calls.

01:33:45.000 Well, there was a great deal of mention about hijackings.

01:33:49.000 There was a lot of interest in that with regard to what the government knew and when it knew it.

01:33:55.000 And Timothy Romer probably said it the best when he expressed the fact that there were There were briefings that were out there, and these briefings were declassified, and they mentioned the fact that there were hijackings, that there were planes, the issue of planes used as weapons.

01:34:13.000 You see, the reason that becomes important Is that if the American people ever find out, the majority of them, find out that they knew that planes used as weapons was one of the key areas of this investigation.

01:34:26.000 And the fact that Arab terrorists were taking flying lessons in the United States... And the government knew, and then the lied and said they never heard that.

01:34:35.000 And then on that day it shows they knew what was going on.

01:34:38.000 You see, my brother is a Delta Airlines captain.

01:34:41.000 And he's retired now, just retired.

01:34:46.000 He just called me on the phone and said, I just read a story about, you know, there's a lot of talk about the Bin Lads being escorted out of the air, you know, out of the country.

01:34:56.000 And he wanted to know, he had just finished reading the book by Kevin Phillips, the Bush Dynasty book, and it mentioned something like seven or eight flights.

01:35:05.000 And I always thought it was two or three flights.

01:35:07.000 And you have to remember, all of the planes were grounded.

01:35:09.000 He told me that it would take about Forty-five minutes to ground one company's equipment.

01:35:14.000 In other words, if American Airlines ground, he says, you've got to fly maybe 130 miles to get to an airport.

01:35:20.000 It was 144 to Bin Laden's when all other ground traffic, air traffic, was grounded.

01:35:25.000 Right, and they were gathered up and flown out of the country in one or two flights.

01:35:29.000 They actually left the country, but there were other flights getting them to the gathering point.

01:35:33.000 And my brother said, and other pilots have told me, I believe there are, I've talked to a couple actually at the airport, And some of the ones at the airport, I just, I ask them, you know, is it hard to get them out of the air?

01:35:45.000 And guys say, yeah.

01:35:46.000 I mean, it's, you've got to, you know, they land one by one.

01:35:50.000 And Boston Logan, I believe one of the flights for the Bin Laden left at least the one flight or one of two. 0.92

01:35:56.000 Well, this came out in the Sentinel.

01:35:58.000 It came out in the Miami Herald in the days after.

01:36:00.000 The media tried to claim it was an urban legend.

01:36:03.000 The former counterterrorism chief had to admit Just last year, he told Vanity Fair that, yeah, it was a presidential order.

01:36:11.000 That's how the FAA and the military let these people leave.

01:36:14.000 Yes, and I believe it was Tenet's testimony.

01:36:16.000 They mentioned this issue.

01:36:17.000 It was brought up again by Romer.

01:36:21.000 Romer and... I haven't watched all the tapes.

01:36:23.000 I only saw some of it.

01:36:25.000 And, of course, the media hasn't talked about it.

01:36:26.000 You're saying they brought up... Yes, they did.

01:36:30.000 And they asked him why... I'm going to have this in my news.

01:36:34.000 Apparently, see, I'm taking this for granted that the media's going to report all this stuff, and apparently they're not.

01:36:39.000 You know, Alex, I guess I'm going to have to write my little chatty news notes deal where I'm going to do two or three paragraphs on some of these things that struck me.

01:36:46.000 Well, that struck me.

01:36:47.000 Well, what did Tenet do when this got raised?

01:36:49.000 Well, he said that they weren't questioned.

01:36:52.000 No one was questioned.

01:36:57.000 This was mentioned at least once, and I'm trying to think now.

01:37:01.000 I'm pretty sure it was Tenet.

01:37:04.000 It might have been one of the others.

01:37:05.000 Don't quote me on this because again, I just got home and I've had to take a day's sleep just to catch up from being up all night for three straight days.

01:37:15.000 What I'm saying is that was brought up in testimony and I know it was Romer that brought it up.

01:37:19.000 So you can check the transcripts.

01:37:21.000 Under Romer's questions, and it will be there.

01:37:24.000 By the way, the White House had said that it wasn't true at first, so more on that.

01:37:30.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.

01:37:32.000 You see, I was shocked to hear that, because they said, someone, I think Romer, said, you mean they got out of the country and they weren't questioned by the FBI?

01:37:41.000 And I believe that's true.

01:37:43.000 That it was the President getting them out of the country with his orders.

01:37:47.000 Yes.

01:37:48.000 So this is massive again, but this had to come from the very highest areas.

01:37:54.000 Also, last year you were there and the FAA spokeswoman said that, oh, that morning, even before the crashes began, the attacks began, that the White House was already on the phone tree with the FAA.

01:38:08.000 Yes, the phone, I have the email.

01:38:10.000 They originally told us it was 820, then she wrote me a separate private email.

01:38:15.000 Uh, later that night, uh, saying that it was 845 rather than...

01:38:20.000 820.

01:38:21.000 Well, we know darn well that that issue is safe because there's no way that if the President knew at 830, then the phone bridges had to have started at 820, 825 in the morning at least.

01:38:35.000 He was attended to by his own privacy.

01:38:37.000 He was on the Secret Service detail.

01:38:39.000 Well, Bush says he saw the first plane hit, but nobody else did for six months until the French video got brought forward.

01:38:44.000 I mean, how did he do that?

01:38:46.000 Alex, boy, I'll tell you what.

01:38:48.000 These are the kind of questions And there's thousands of them!

01:38:51.000 There's thousands of them!

01:38:52.000 Alex, it drives you nuts when you sit there and listen to a policy wonk history, college history lecture, with poor preparation of questions for the most part, and terrible, worse, follow-up.

01:39:04.000 See, basically the president, the chairman of the commission, Tom Kino, is an honorable man.

01:39:09.000 But he's acting like a fancy restaurant maitre d'.

01:39:12.000 And he asked, well, what could we have done?

01:39:14.000 Everything was, what could we do?

01:39:15.000 Well, the commission said at the outset that we're not going to blame the government.

01:39:18.000 We're just going to find out how we can not do this again.

01:39:21.000 Yeah, it's turning, the families are turning it into something far different.

01:39:25.000 Trust me on that.

01:39:27.000 I want to get more into the timeline and then some calls, but being there for week after week during these hearings over the last year and a half, you're there with the families.

01:39:34.000 We've had a lot of them on.

01:39:35.000 They believe Bush did it.

01:39:38.000 I mean, I've had Stanley Hilton and all these other lawyers on who represent them, but when you're talking to the families, I mean, what's going on?

01:39:45.000 What's an average discussion like?

01:39:47.000 Well, they're calling for a new set of hearings to investigate 9-11.

01:39:53.000 In other words, they're saying we don't want history lessons, we don't want what's been going on.

01:39:58.000 This is politics.

01:40:00.000 And by history lesson you mean it's all how dangerous Al-Qaeda was, and why they dropped the wall, and how busy they are. 0.62

01:40:06.000 And let's, you know, we don't want this to happen again, so what policy should we change so that we can move on?

01:40:12.000 And the committee says a domestic CIA is the answer, big government's the answer.

01:40:16.000 Alex, there is nothing about accountability.

01:40:19.000 The only person who made himself accountable was Richard Clark, who has worked for both administrations, I believe, right?

01:40:26.000 And so he said, you know, I want to apologize to the families, Alex, there's been subpoena votes.

01:40:33.000 now let me say something else, I did see one of the commissioners bring up

01:40:37.000 that why did the FBI agents that blocked good FBI agents get record cash bonuses

01:40:41.000 but then they didn't answer the question and there's no follow-up.

01:40:44.000 Alex, there's been subpoena votes.

01:40:47.000 I asked Timothy Romer, point blank, Slade Gorton, point blank, Bob Kerrey.

01:40:52.000 Point Blank.

01:40:53.000 Individual, myself.

01:40:54.000 I asked all three of them.

01:40:55.000 And when I asked Kerrey, there were about 20 to 25 reporters standing there.

01:40:59.000 I asked all of them, why aren't you using your subpoena power?

01:41:02.000 And I said, have you voted for subpoenas to subpoena the Condoleezza Rice?

01:41:08.000 And they wouldn't answer.

01:41:09.000 Nobody will answer.

01:41:10.000 And I do, and they will say, Romer said, I voted to subpoena.

01:41:13.000 Now why don't they want Rice? 0.93

01:41:15.000 Because they stuck her out on TV and she told a bunch of lies. 1.00

01:41:17.000 She now admits those lies about we never heard of a plan to play.

01:41:20.000 Well, the other thing is, I have another story, a title, you know, I love to fool around with titles, and this title, the definition of is, is.

01:41:28.000 We now have a new definition of what is, is.

01:41:31.000 And you want to know what it is?

01:41:32.000 The President of the United States is saying that if I'd only have known that they were going to take airplanes And fly them into buildings.

01:41:41.000 He said that at the last story.

01:41:43.000 You should go to tomflocco.com, F-L-O-C-C-O. 0.83

01:41:46.000 And you'll see in the last story I did regarding the Bush, the commission is still talking about subpoenas.

01:41:52.000 There's a quote up at the top.

01:41:55.000 And the president has changed that quote.

01:41:57.000 Instead of saying, if I'd have known that they were going to fly planes into buildings, he has planes into buildings in New York City.

01:42:04.000 You see, that's depending on what the definition is.

01:42:08.000 By the way, we've caught them going into old transcripts of speeches from two years ago and altering those, too.

01:42:15.000 This is a chilling cover-up and takeover.

01:42:18.000 Tom, any other key points you want to hit on about where this commission's going?

01:42:22.000 One more thing.

01:42:24.000 Hold on a second.

01:42:25.000 Will the public buy the whitewash?

01:42:26.000 Then I want to go to calls.

01:42:27.000 Okay.

01:42:28.000 Count Elisa Rice.

01:42:29.000 Uh, when she made her damage control May 16th press conference in reaction to the Bush New Headline from the New York Post.

01:42:37.000 Yeah, she's not a good liar, that's what I want her to testify about. 1.00

01:42:40.000 She had made that statement while there was also a question, somebody said, about this issue of the Pakistani Intelligence General.

01:42:47.000 Uh, and then what they did is the CNN and the White House literally put inaudible in the transcript.

01:42:54.000 However, there was another issue where they named the Pakistani General.

01:42:59.000 So they put inaudible on the White House version of the transcript, so that we have evidence there, and I believe that was... Now explain, for a lot of people that don't know what you mean by Pakistani General Amoud Ahmed.

01:43:08.000 Give us the background on that in a nutshell.

01:43:10.000 Quite incredibly, we were all waiting in Attorney General Powell's testimony to find out if they would ask him, Secretary of State Powell, he confirmed that he met with Pakistani intelligence in his follow-up question testimony that day.

01:43:28.000 When he testified the first day.

01:43:31.000 However, there was no mention and no one followed up and said, well, did you meet specifically with the General of the Intelligence Team?

01:43:37.000 Well, obviously he inferred that.

01:43:39.000 Well, this Pakistani Intelligence General, Mahmood Ahmad, had one of his surrogates, his associates to wire $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, The elite hijacker.

01:43:54.000 And by the way, that's admitted, and in the second trip in his life, he met with the CIA chief.

01:44:00.000 He also met with Richard Armitage.

01:44:05.000 And then that morning of 9-11, he was having breakfast with the House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairman.

01:44:09.000 That is correct.

01:44:10.000 He met with Porter Goss, and he met with Robert Graham, and also mentioned was Senator John Kyle.

01:44:16.000 So here we have United States Congressman in charge of the The Joint Congressional Intelligence Investigations of 9-11 meeting with the general who had wired money to the lead hijacker a week or two prior to coming to Washington.

01:44:33.000 Let me give them some more.

01:44:35.000 We have a London Guardian reporting as well as the Associated Press that Bush Sr., at a Carlisle Group function at 8.30 in the morning, was having breakfast with the head of the Bin Laden family.

01:44:45.000 We also, of course, have a bunch of other examples of this.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, these are the kinds of things that were... See, they had opportunities.

01:44:55.000 They could have asked this to Armitage.

01:44:56.000 They could have asked it to Colin Powell. 0.56

01:45:00.000 Armitage was very arrogant, wasn't he? 0.91

01:45:03.000 You know what? 0.78

01:45:05.000 I bet this hasn't been... I've got to report this, too, because we all walked out.

01:45:08.000 The families and all the reporters walked out before Armitage spoke.

01:45:12.000 Did you hear that?

01:45:13.000 Uh, no, we didn't hear it.

01:45:15.000 Well, you're hearing it now.

01:45:16.000 There was four reporters left in the room and the room was almost empty during Armitage's testimony and no one has reported that except for a slight, slight mention of that I did a Google search for it.

01:45:26.000 But you know what I'm going to have to do?

01:45:27.000 I'm going to have to write a story.

01:45:28.000 I'm going to have to write the real thing because you know what?

01:45:31.000 And that was a protest.

01:45:32.000 That was a protest because Rice hadn't shown up.

01:45:35.000 That's right.

01:45:36.000 That was a protest.

01:45:36.000 But have you seen that on all the big news reports?

01:45:39.000 Oh no, the families love it and think it's great.

01:45:42.000 Let's take calls.

01:45:44.000 Oh my goodness, who's up first here?

01:45:49.000 Let's talk to David in New Jersey.

01:45:51.000 David, go ahead.

01:45:52.000 Hello Alex, hello Tom.

01:45:54.000 I want to thank you gentlemen both for the work that you're doing.

01:45:57.000 Uh, Tom, I had come across an article regarding Sybil Edmonds a while back.

01:46:01.000 I tried to retrieve the letter, but I archived it.

01:46:04.000 And it was some mention about she had been looking over the shoulder of one of her co-workers who was mistranslating Some of the intercepts that she was tasked to produce.

01:46:13.000 That is, they're going back and altering them retroactively for the committee.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, and this was, she was mistranslating them on purpose at the time.

01:46:24.000 Well, you see, this is the story, and now she came out.

01:46:27.000 She said that she was asked personally to change and because she wouldn't do it, she was basically fired from her job.

01:46:38.000 They offered her, in her quotes, they offered her a bigger job to shut up or threatened to arrest her if she didn't and that's documented.

01:46:46.000 We covered that earlier, David.

01:46:48.000 Right.

01:46:49.000 Okay, we'll move on to another thing.

01:46:50.000 Tom, your fax campaign.

01:46:51.000 Can you post any additional information as far as contacts that we can... Well, what we're going to do next on that, I've left that up there.

01:46:59.000 Tell folks what it is.

01:47:00.000 I didn't even talk about that, but we had Bill Douglas from the 9-11 Visibility Project and I had gotten together and talked on the phone.

01:47:09.000 What can we do?

01:47:10.000 And I said, well, you know, there are basically six people.

01:47:13.000 You've got your House and Senate leaders.

01:47:15.000 You've got Mr. Keene of the Commission and Mr. Kerry who has the microphone and is being covered daily.

01:47:21.000 These people have the most power to call for a subpoena of Condoleezza Rice and the President and the Vice President, some of the key players.

01:47:28.000 Secretary Myers was testifying.

01:47:31.000 So you posted their contact info?

01:47:33.000 people and people started calling and and uh... for about two weeks we were

01:47:36.000 able to get them quite a bit done in terms of of uh...

01:47:40.000 of getting people to call the telephone numbers and uh...

01:47:44.000 and fax their information and so that you know to get their attention

01:47:47.000 and let them know that we know yes that we can exactly and uh... it's basically now we're at a point where it's a

01:47:54.000 it's basically a cover-up this is a

01:47:56.000 this is a major cover-up here you have the most important investigation

01:48:00.000 since watergate anyway

01:48:03.000 it might be the most important when you consider the number of people that died

01:48:06.000 here you have a mass three thousand death and uh... mass murder and you don't

01:48:11.000 even have a grand You have no career prosecutors involved in this thing.

01:48:16.000 And you can tell by the questions being asked.

01:48:19.000 You have Bush syndicate partners running the investigation.

01:48:23.000 Well, if you want to call it that, basically you have, you know, the committee is so conflicted, it's disgusting, Al.

01:48:32.000 Alright, let's go to more calls.

01:48:33.000 Let's talk to Don in Wisconsin.

01:48:35.000 Don, go ahead.

01:48:36.000 Hello?

01:48:37.000 Yes, John.

01:48:38.000 Yeah, Mr. Jones, I just wanted to make a quick comment about the laws about the news stories that you're putting out on your website.

01:48:52.000 If you make a copy of any news story that's broadcast on television, that's against federal law.

01:48:59.000 It's not under fair use, and normally we just link the stories and we're analyzing the news, sir.

01:49:05.000 Do you have a comment or anything about these news articles?

01:49:07.000 Well, I was just wondering, I heard yesterday on another show on Shortwave about an international court in the year 2000 found the Bush administration guilty of war crimes.

01:49:22.000 Okay, well thank you for the call, Don.

01:49:24.000 Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.

01:49:26.000 Dan, go ahead.

01:49:29.000 You're on the air, Dan.

01:49:32.000 Okay.

01:49:32.000 Alex?

01:49:33.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:49:34.000 You know, it's very clear that this panel is not put together to put any of the questions at rest.

01:49:40.000 All the doubts, how jet fuel can melt the building, how amateur pilots can hit these needles in a haystack, or how the hole's too small in the Pentagon for a plane to hit.

01:49:54.000 It's not put together for that at all.

01:49:57.000 They're put together just to give the neocon followers some ammunition that they're doing something.

01:50:03.000 Well, I spent some time at the end of the last hearing because of the rush hour.

01:50:07.000 I wasn't going to drive home in that.

01:50:09.000 I went out to dinner with some reporters and there was a Philip Weirin who had spent a great deal of time researching the buildings.

01:50:16.000 When I first looked at the buildings, I thought they were imploded.

01:50:19.000 There's no question.

01:50:20.000 I looked at them and they looked like they came down straight.

01:50:22.000 But after talking to Philip, Basically, he said that the buildings were built by the mob, and they were built so shoddily, and just quarter-inch pieces of steel, they were just pieces of plastic.

01:50:34.000 We have the owner of the World Trade Center complex saying they blew it up.

01:50:39.000 We have those video clips.

01:50:41.000 There's a lot of discrepancy.

01:50:45.000 We've got to break again, folks.

01:50:47.000 Everybody, stay there.

01:50:48.000 More calls coming up.

01:50:49.000 Stay with us.

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01:53:58.000 We got Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster, Economist, former Army Intelligence to get into the Madrid bombings, what's happening with the dollar, the economy.

01:54:07.000 Of course, we've got loaded phone lines for our guest Tom Flocco.

01:54:12.000 And, you know, some of the callers... I mean, you can talk about whatever you want on the show, but I'd like to try to keep some of the calls to 9-11, because one of the callers stumped me.

01:54:22.000 He's like, a court in 2000 found George Bush guilty.

01:54:27.000 I think it was a war crimes court just a few months ago did that.

01:54:30.000 So it's pretty confusing stuff and kind of off the issue here.

01:54:35.000 Let's see if...

01:54:37.000 Oh, I guess who's up next here, Stephanie? 1.00

01:54:42.000 Sandra in Atlantic City.

01:54:43.000 Go ahead, Sandra.

01:54:44.000 Hi.

01:54:45.000 I was listening to the Senate this morning.

01:54:48.000 Harry Reid said that there were 100 security meetings before 9-1-1, and only two of them terrorism was mentioned.

01:54:55.000 Also, I live about three miles from the FAA Center at the Tech Center in Pomona, New Jersey.

01:55:03.000 I don't think it would have taken those planes very long to get up there.

01:55:06.000 They sure can make it down to D.C.

01:55:08.000 every day to guard the President, and that's it.

01:55:13.000 Thank you.

01:55:14.000 Thanks for the call.

01:55:14.000 That's a good point, Tom.

01:55:16.000 Well, Sandra's right on, and I know where Pomona is, and I know where the Atlantic City is.

01:55:20.000 That's where the 177th Fighter Wing is, and I knew General Girard personally and had associated him with him because he was the commanding general of the New Jersey National Guard when I was in the National Guard back for so many years.

01:55:38.000 And so, yeah, on that day, I heard Chairman Tom Keene, who was also the governor of the state of New Jersey, who was the governor, and he had said that on C-SPAN one morning that a caller had called in and talked about the same things Sandra said.

01:55:57.000 And he said, well, you know, we were looking outward and somebody asked a question to him about why.

01:56:04.000 They couldn't have done something about escorting the planes or shooting them down or something?

01:56:07.000 When another plane goes off in just a few minutes, it's surrounded.

01:56:10.000 Yes, exactly.

01:56:12.000 And it's a standard procedure.

01:56:13.000 And we've put the notification of a hijacking.

01:56:16.000 But there were planes in the air, Alex.

01:56:18.000 Operation Vigilant Guardian.

01:56:20.000 They were training missions up and down the East Coast with firefighters.

01:56:24.000 It's a fraud.

01:56:25.000 People need to investigate it further.

01:56:26.000 TomFlacco.com.

01:56:29.000 We really appreciate you coming on.

01:56:30.000 We'll have you back up on the show and thanks for covering these hearings.

01:56:33.000 Alex, take care and send me, if you could, TomFlacco at CS.com.

01:56:37.000 Send me the information about the two people that grabbed Mr. Bush when he was talking about the You know, the remote control.

01:56:44.000 I'd love to see those.

01:56:45.000 You know, I have that on tape somewhere.

01:56:46.000 I was taping when it happened.

01:56:48.000 He said, you know, we can land these planes with remote control.

01:56:50.000 And somebody reached up and grabbed his arm.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, could you get Violet to send me this?

01:56:54.000 You got... Well, like I said, I have a literal room full of videotapes, but we're going to be going back through those.

01:56:58.000 Tom, thanks for the call.

01:57:00.000 Thanks.

01:57:00.000 Bye-bye.

01:57:00.000 You bet.

01:57:01.000 I really appreciate the call and you coming on the show.

01:57:03.000 All right, we're out of time for this hour.

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02:00:20.000 Bob Chapman, you know, has degrees in economics.

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02:00:27.000 Made the federal government very mad at him.

02:00:29.000 Exposed their suppression of the gold market.

02:00:31.000 Done a lot of great work.

02:00:32.000 Also was in army intelligence.

02:00:35.000 And I respect his opinion, and we haven't had him on in four or five months, so I wanted to get Bob back up on the show.

02:00:41.000 We'll also get to your calls early in this interview.

02:00:44.000 I wanted to get him up to talk about the 9-11 whitewash commission, his take on that, what he sees happening with the Madrid bombings with government fingerprints all over it, what's going on with the economy, and Bob, good to have you on the show.

02:00:57.000 It's very nice being back again.

02:00:59.000 Uh... what do you think of uh... I mean let's just get into, since we just talked about 9-11, I mean the fraud, the lies there, what clearly happened there, the police state that's being set up, this whitewash commission with all these business connections and to the Bush administration, your take on that?

02:01:17.000 Well, it's another whitewash just like the uh... commission on the Kennedy assassination and uh... as you say, the people who are involved in the commission are Council on Foreign Relations stalwarts, if you may, part of the elitist.

02:01:33.000 And nothing's going to happen.

02:01:34.000 Nothing's going to come out.

02:01:35.000 And that's the end of that.

02:01:37.000 And we know who did it, which is, you know, the Bush and the neocons.

02:01:42.000 That is 9-11.

02:01:44.000 And we just have to keep on hammering away at them.

02:01:48.000 And as far as Madrid is concerned, in my latest issue, which came out yesterday, I said that I thought it was a black ops operation.

02:01:59.000 It was too well run for a group of itinerant Moroccans to have executed that in that fashion. 0.99

02:02:08.000 Well, I want to go over some of that a little bit later in the show, in 10 or 15 minutes or so, but first off, the economy, the plunging dollar, what's happening with Bush saying that exporting more jobs is good, it's going to get seven times worse, they're saying, Congressional Budget Office, your take on that?

02:02:26.000 Well, first of all, outsourcing of individual jobs and outsourcing of companies, mainly manufacturing, is an absolute disaster for the United States.

02:02:38.000 And it continues to expedite every single day.

02:02:42.000 And it's like in the war, the guy next to you is the one that's going to get shot, not you.

02:02:48.000 Well, let me tell you something.

02:02:49.000 If we continue to allow this outsourcing, and we continue to allow free trade, and globalization we will be a second or third rate country within the next three or four or five years and if we allow in addition to that the continuation of massive illegal immigration that's going to add to it and have particularly at the lower end.

02:03:13.000 Yeah because now we're not just losing the high-tech jobs or the factory jobs now it's the cheeseburger jobs.

02:03:19.000 Everything's going and Americans just don't understand what's being done to them And every politician in Washington knows, and the 15% who are decent, don't have a voice, and the rest of them all vote together as a group.

02:03:33.000 And so we don't have any representation to any great extent in Washington.

02:03:38.000 Nobody wants to stop what's going on, because they're all getting paid one way or the other.

02:03:43.000 Except, you know, just a few.

02:03:45.000 Well, that's what's happening, and...

02:03:51.000 I want to go over some of the details of it and what it will be like living in the third world police state, but I'm sure you saw Bush a month ago, his economic commission tried to claim that hamburger, fast food jobs should be durable, good jobs.

02:04:06.000 Manufacturing.

02:04:07.000 Considered manufacturing.

02:04:09.000 Well, they figure, you know, the Goebbels theory, you keep on telling a lie long enough and if it's big enough and unbelievable enough, they'll believe it.

02:04:20.000 And obviously, you know, half the population in the United States more or less believes it.

02:04:25.000 Just like they believe in this make-believe war that they're having over there.

02:04:31.000 In my publication, The International Forecaster, I said four years ago... Tell us what you said four years ago when we get back, Bob.

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02:08:08.000 Alright, folks.

02:08:09.000 I'm talking to Bob Chapman, economist, also was in military intelligence, had a lot of predictions, a lot of really important information.

02:08:21.000 And, Bob, you were making a point before we hit the last break.

02:08:25.000 About four years ago, when I told everybody to get out of the stock market right at the top, I also told them that to go into the gold and silver area and buy the shares and the coins and the bullion.

02:08:37.000 And I also said that in order to cover up the coming crash in the American economy and the world economy, that they would have to have perpetual wars for perpetual peace.

02:08:46.000 And I told them that the war would be in the Middle East.

02:08:50.000 I also Uh, projected the infamous 9-11 about nine months before it happened, although I didn't know where it was going to happen.

02:09:00.000 And so I've got a pretty good handle on what these people are doing.

02:09:04.000 The reason they went into the Middle East was not only to cover the economic conditions which have been going on since then, But also, they wanted the oil, and they wanted the geopolitical position, the entire area also, outflanking Russia on their southeastern flank.

02:09:22.000 And our own PNAC documents say that.

02:09:24.000 It's not like we're... They point at Paul O'Neill and others that have gone public that day one they plan to invade Iraq and Energy Commission maps of the oil.

02:09:32.000 They go, oh, well, he's just angry because he got fired.

02:09:34.000 We have the PNAC documents.

02:09:35.000 Forget what O'Neill's saying.

02:09:37.000 That's right.

02:09:39.000 And so this is all part of the syndrome.

02:09:43.000 That leads us into the fulcrum that we're in.

02:09:46.000 Well, we have a mass looting of $1.2 trillion missing from the Pentagon, $45 trillion debt, that's Dallas Morning News.

02:09:52.000 All this stuff going on and they're just robbing and looting and no bids allowed in Iraq. 1.00

02:09:57.000 I mean, this is full-scale criminality.

02:10:00.000 Absolutely, and they continue to do it and Congress does nothing.

02:10:04.000 And then you have the markets.

02:10:06.000 Every single day, the Plunge Protection Team, which is the working group in financial markets, which is run by The president of Mr. Greenspan, the head of the New York Fed, the head of the SEC, the CFTC, and the U.S.

02:10:20.000 Treasury Department.

02:10:21.000 And they have their people, 24 hours a day, rigging not only in the New York Stock Exchange, but in the gold and silver markets, and in the currency markets in particular.

02:10:31.000 Admitted, but you tell the average economist this, they don't know it.

02:10:35.000 Well, they don't want to know it.

02:10:37.000 And it's the same with the public.

02:10:38.000 they keep on pouring money into the four one k so that they can retire they ain't 0.97

02:10:42.000 going to be anything there because

02:10:44.000 this market is going down it'll happen next year maybe even sooner

02:10:49.000 and what it does is it's not going to stop at seventy two sixty three

02:10:53.000 it's going down to four or five or three thousand that means that the people who have saved

02:10:59.000 in those vehicles for retirement the money's not going to be there

02:11:02.000 and the pension funds are going to be insolvent now bush comes out and says hamburger jobs are

02:11:10.000 manufacturing exporting jobs is good as commissioning 0.99

02:11:13.000 I mean, how are people, how are the yuppies still buying all of this?

02:11:19.000 They still go on their merry way and say debt is great.

02:11:24.000 I mean, that's their total take on the thing.

02:11:27.000 Four years ago, Bob, the summit there in Switzerland, the World Economic Forum, They said, we're going to plunge the dollar, we're going to bring up the euro, then we're going to use that as pressure to make America go to a Pan-American Union.

02:11:43.000 I mean, they're gearing this thing up.

02:11:45.000 Why does the elite want to get rid of the middle class?

02:11:47.000 What's the big plan?

02:11:48.000 What will life be like in 10 years if they succeed?

02:11:51.000 They want a world government.

02:11:53.000 And they want a world government where everybody will be subservient.

02:11:57.000 The United States has been And could continue to be the number one nation in the world.

02:12:03.000 Why?

02:12:03.000 Because of our industriousness and technology, etc.

02:12:07.000 And this is a deliberate attempt by the elitists throughout the world, and particularly in the United States, to bring down the American economy.

02:12:17.000 This depression that we're going into, these jobs leaving the country, these illegal aliens continue to come over the border every day, this didn't happen by chance, it's by plan.

02:12:28.000 As you pointed out, They want to pass FTAA by January of next year.

02:12:32.000 Once they do that, they'll have one union all the way from the tip of the North Pole to Tierra del Fuego.

02:12:39.000 And they want to have a world government unit for North, South, Central America and Mexico.

02:12:46.000 The same thing has already been done in Europe.

02:12:48.000 And after they have units like that all over the world, they will amalgamate into their world government.

02:12:53.000 And at the same time, the United States, they hope, Will be so fundamentally financially on their back that they won't do anything about it.

02:13:02.000 I'm talking about the American people.

02:13:06.000 They know that poor serfs, it's harder for them to resist.

02:13:11.000 There's only one fly in the ointment for the conspiracy that's doing this.

02:13:17.000 And that is, number one, they haven't got the weapons away from the American public.

02:13:23.000 And as long as they're there, they can't take the country over. 0.94

02:13:27.000 And they know there's people like you and I out there who are telling people the truth.

02:13:32.000 And those who are listening are going to hide what they have and use them if they have to.

02:13:40.000 Absolutely.

02:13:40.000 And they're trying to brainwash our police.

02:13:42.000 They're telling us secret arrest is good.

02:13:44.000 The Pentagon's putting on a fake newscast.

02:13:47.000 I mean, it is Orwellian to the max.

02:13:50.000 Absolutely.

02:13:51.000 And from your military intelligence training and study, I mean, do you think the troops will go along with this, or will they need a terror event during the deepening depression as a way to unify us behind the plastic Chinese flag? 0.82

02:14:04.000 Well, two things.

02:14:05.000 Number one, I expect that if Mr. Bush feels that he's not going to be re-elected, there will be terrorist events in the United States which will be done by his and the neocons' black-op teams.

02:14:16.000 That's number one.

02:14:18.000 I picked out five major cities with heavy Jewish populations.

02:14:21.000 New York, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, and Los Angeles are all potential victims. 0.99

02:14:27.000 Oh, you think they'll kill a bunch of Jews? 0.99

02:14:29.000 Well, they could kill a bunch of people. 1.00

02:14:31.000 They might even use small nuclear devices. 1.00

02:14:34.000 And then say it was Arabs targeting Jews. 0.94

02:14:38.000 Exactly. 0.90

02:14:39.000 And we'll have plenty of Arabs who they'll put up front to take the blame for it, supposedly. 1.00

02:14:47.000 And that's why I think that is said, and a precursor to that was what they just did in Spain, only it backfired on them.

02:14:54.000 And the Spanish... Now, let's spend a few minutes on Spain.

02:14:57.000 It's in your new issue.

02:14:58.000 We'll tell folks how to get a free sample copy of it here in a few minutes.

02:15:02.000 But, I mean, these are incredible, you know, information that Bob puts together.

02:15:07.000 Bob, break it down for us.

02:15:08.000 What happened in Madrid?

02:15:10.000 Well, you know, everybody has seen the reports of the bombings.

02:15:14.000 The question is, And the important question is, how did these people get a hold of what they had, number one, under the circumstances, and number two... And now it's Spanish military explosives, by the way.

02:15:26.000 That's right.

02:15:27.000 And the timing involved.

02:15:29.000 The timing was absolutely perfect.

02:15:33.000 It was the same way 9-11 was done.

02:15:35.000 This was done by ultra-professionals, not a group of terrorist militants.

02:15:43.000 It's impossible.

02:15:44.000 I mean, these people who did this, spent their whole life training to do this.

02:15:50.000 Then they tried to blame Basque, I mean literal goat herders from the mountains, when the Basque have never done anything a tenth this big.

02:15:59.000 And then they had to admit it wasn't the Basque, and oh, it's Al-Qaeda. 0.56

02:16:02.000 Turns out the Al-Qaeda group they talked about doesn't exist, but is some weird CIA front group.

02:16:10.000 Well, we know it's a put-up job, and that's the bottom line, and that's the important thing.

02:16:15.000 And if I am right, and it's a precursor to something in the United States, then we get some real problems.

02:16:22.000 I think that the people who are running George Bush, I do not think they want him to run for President, nor do I think they want him to win.

02:16:34.000 And I think he's made such a mess out of this, he's lost such credibility.

02:16:38.000 Among the people.

02:16:39.000 That they may put his cousin, John Forbes, Kerry in.

02:16:42.000 That's right.

02:16:43.000 Or, if he doesn't want to go peacefully, I think there could be an assassination.

02:16:51.000 If you don't get out of the way, they get rid of you. 0.98

02:16:53.000 Well, I hope that doesn't happen because Bush is just a puppet. 0.80

02:16:56.000 That's right, but that's not the point. 0.84

02:16:57.000 They don't care.

02:16:58.000 They do what they want to do.

02:17:00.000 And if you notice, you have all these little events coming out now, particularly three days ago.

02:17:06.000 Goldman Sachs' chief economist came out and essentially said that all the figures coming out of the United States government are lies.

02:17:13.000 This is about CPI, PPI, and on and on and on.

02:17:17.000 Now, that's a political statement.

02:17:21.000 So they've got the big guns out after him and Goldman Sachs is an elitist company.

02:17:29.000 So you think the elite think that Bush hasn't been a good puppet and they want Kerry in?

02:17:34.000 That's right.

02:17:35.000 He's made a mess of things because they wanted to take out Iran and Syria.

02:17:39.000 In fact, the Jerusalem Post this morning said that the rumors are over there that Rumsfeld wants to go after Hezbollah, which is the palace in Lebanon and on the border of Syria, so they can draw the Syrian troops in so they can go in and smash them.

02:17:58.000 Well, they put out official reports where Rumsfeld's advocating the invasion of Syria.

02:18:03.000 Well, this was just the latest one.

02:18:05.000 Wow.

02:18:07.000 And these people are out of their minds.

02:18:12.000 Well, that's what the Pentagon, even ten years ago, I've had former Republicans, former top advisors to Reagan on, saying that they called the current group the, quote, crazies.

02:18:23.000 Well, that's a good name for them.

02:18:25.000 Incidentally, I was on Reagan's Speakers Bureau when he first ran for governor in California.

02:18:30.000 I used to travel all over the place with him.

02:18:34.000 Well, it's amazing the stuff that's going on, Bob.

02:18:35.000 There's so many other issues I want to cover and people that want to talk to you, but what are some of the things you want to talk about in the next 40 minutes?

02:18:42.000 Well, I think the important thing is where is the economy going and how people can protect themselves.

02:18:47.000 I think that's the most important thing from my perspective.

02:18:51.000 All the other things lend to it.

02:18:54.000 It's like a part of a mosaic, and you've got to put it all together to come up with a synthesis.

02:19:02.000 And that's why people subscribe to the International Forecaster and read 30 or 40 pages every week to find out really what's going on out there.

02:19:11.000 And there are other good publications, too, but not very many of them.

02:19:15.000 And read books like Don Granpre's three books on the subject of 9-11, which I recommend in my publication, and books like Ed Griffith's Creature from Jekyll Island and Dr. Stanley Monteith's The Brotherhood of Darkness.

02:19:31.000 Absolutely.

02:19:31.000 We've got a break.

02:19:32.000 We'll come back, take calls and get more into the economy.

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02:23:38.000 Oh, I tell you, when there's this much information, it gives you a headache.

02:23:48.000 But bottom line, there is mass criminal looting taking place at every level of government.

02:23:54.000 This is the normal pattern throughout history.

02:23:57.000 And it's happening again.

02:23:58.000 What do we do to stop it?

02:24:00.000 Number one, we get out of debt.

02:24:01.000 We stop being dependent on the government.

02:24:03.000 We develop cadres of people in your area that understand what's going on, who work for liberty and freedom.

02:24:11.000 It's a process.

02:24:12.000 And we're not going to defeat this overnight.

02:24:14.000 But I have to tell you, Mr. Chapman, I see fear in the globalist eyes.

02:24:19.000 I don't see as much arrogance as I did.

02:24:21.000 I'm seeing a massive awakening taking place right now.

02:24:25.000 What's your forecast long-term on defeating this current gaggle of global crooks?

02:24:33.000 Well, first of all, I think that you're correct in stating that these elitists, as I call them, are getting very nervous.

02:24:43.000 Because things haven't been turning out the way that they would have liked them to, and they haven't had the success that they had envisioned with what we call the neocons and Mr. Bush.

02:24:54.000 And so your perception on that, at least as far as I'm concerned, is correct.

02:25:00.000 When you see them in the markets every day, trying to make things last as long as possible so they can get all their ducks in order and get the kind of people that they want in office And you see that they continue to run into trouble because of programs like yours and newsletters throughout the internet, which is probably the only place where you can get the truth today.

02:25:23.000 So they do plan to implode things, but they need to get their police state control grid set up first, and so things are falling apart for them.

02:25:32.000 That's correct.

02:25:33.000 And the economic part is very, very important because it brings People into a submissive state.

02:25:43.000 We don't have a job, and you can't pay your bills, and you've been thrown out of your home, and all those terrible sorts of things.

02:25:52.000 When they start happening to lots and lots of people in the economy, and incidentally, unemployment's not 5.7%, it's about 14%, because they don't even count the people who have given up looking, and this goes back for years that people have given up looking.

02:26:07.000 And so the situation now, It's even worse than it looks.

02:26:11.000 Well, I mean, for those that don't understand, I'm cooking the books.

02:26:14.000 I hate to use this three times in an hour, but they're trying to change the numbers where fast food is manufacturing.

02:26:19.000 I mean, the numbers are cooked.

02:26:22.000 And that's what the chief economist for Goldman Sachs said three days ago, and they probably have one of the best research departments in the world, irrespective of where they're coming from.

02:26:34.000 They are one world, believe me.

02:26:36.000 But, and this is a political thing... Aren't there different power blocs?

02:26:39.000 You have the old line, European money, that has let Bush run wild on a long leash to create havoc.

02:26:47.000 Now they say, oh, we've got to have our liberal world government based in the EU, but then they blame Bush for the centralization and the oil grabbing, which they then later take over, which we see with the UN now beginning to take over Iraq.

02:27:01.000 You're absolutely correct.

02:27:02.000 And there are power factions.

02:27:05.000 And they do disagree with one another as to how things should be run.

02:27:09.000 Maybe they're think tanks behind the scenes that spend 24 hours a day with billions and billions of dollars at their disposal, and millions of people at their disposal, and they're planning day and night on how to do the things that they want to do to us.

02:27:26.000 And that's where you get the complexity.

02:27:29.000 The complexity.

02:27:30.000 And people say, well, how can that be?

02:27:33.000 It's this whole study in itself.

02:27:35.000 Yeah, the globalists don't manufacture cars or computers.

02:27:38.000 Their job is manipulating, dumbing down, creating false perceptions, manipulating economic trends over decades.

02:27:45.000 Absolutely.

02:27:46.000 And it has been going on for decades.

02:27:48.000 As a matter of fact, I often say that both sides of every war have been financed by the same people since the 12th century.

02:27:56.000 And people look at you like, my goodness gracious, how could that be?

02:28:00.000 Well, it is.

02:28:01.000 It's the same families, and others have been added along the way.

02:28:04.000 The people who become Rhodes Scholars, and the people who become members of the Skull and Bones.

02:28:09.000 The servant class. 0.93

02:28:11.000 We're the servants of the elite.

02:28:12.000 Well, I mean the servants of the elite class, yeah.

02:28:14.000 Well, yeah, they call them Sherpas.

02:28:17.000 Sherpas.

02:28:19.000 You know, like up in the Himalayas?

02:28:20.000 Yes.

02:28:22.000 The men who do the guiding, they call them Sherpas.

02:28:24.000 They're appointed guides.

02:28:28.000 And that's what Henry Kissinger always referred himself as.

02:28:32.000 And so, yes, they're second-level people.

02:28:35.000 So they're managers.

02:28:36.000 Exactly.

02:28:38.000 Managers of the conspiracy.

02:28:42.000 And it's amazing when you look at it and you say, well, gee, how can that individual accept and become part of that when he didn't need to?

02:28:55.000 But it's a power thing.

02:28:57.000 It's a recognition thing.

02:28:59.000 And it's for many people who get involved.

02:29:03.000 We'll break.

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02:36:21.000 Let's go to some calls and we'll get more into the economy.

02:36:24.000 Right now, let's go ahead and talk to John in Ohio.

02:36:26.000 Thanks for holding, John.

02:36:28.000 Yes, though I'm on the left, I have some discrepancy with you.

02:36:31.000 I totally agree with your position and others like Global Research.ca that the neo-fascists and the Bush-Cheney gang are behind the 9-11 attacks.

02:36:42.000 And also beyond that, I believe we've got to realize, as your previous guest shows, that the top corporate military industrial complex-owned media is really part of this in in covering up and uh... uh... trying to disguise a cover-up as an expose limiting it to saying that uh... this is merely laziness incompetence or negligence when in fact uh... their own reporters have recorded uh... evidence of this collusion and i think there's other instances of this kind of uh... cover-up of things that they know all well about for instance five years ago

02:37:18.000 All the media was in Cuba at a three-week tribunal that documented a 40-year war of terrorism by the United States government and the CIA against Cuba.

02:37:27.000 But you can't have a terrorist doing a report on terrorists and the CIA put Fidel in and controls the left and right.

02:37:33.000 Thanks for the call.

02:37:34.000 Thanks for the call.

02:37:36.000 Bob, you got any comments?

02:37:38.000 Yes, I do.

02:37:39.000 And I think that a lot of what the people on the left say It's true, I just think that we have to come to the middle and meet so that we can save the country.

02:37:47.000 I don't want to hear about left-right things, I want to hear about saving America.

02:37:53.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

02:37:54.000 And I welcome ex-communists, I'll have them at my home for dinner, as long as, you know, we want to get rid of the bad guys.

02:38:05.000 That's it.

02:38:05.000 And again, the establishment created these left-wing movements to consolidate the wealth.

02:38:10.000 Now that they've got us addicted and domesticated to the welfare society, they're taking that away and transferring all power to the corrupt corporations that are organized crime syndicates that aren't free market.

02:38:20.000 The commies and the socialists point at their banker bosses and say, oh look, capitalism's bad.

02:38:26.000 No, the so-called capitalists aren't free market.

02:38:29.000 They use government.

02:38:30.000 It's organized crime.

02:38:31.000 Exactly.

02:38:32.000 Let's talk to Brad in Illinois.

02:38:34.000 Brad, you're on the air.

02:38:34.000 Go ahead.

02:38:35.000 Thanks for taking my call, Alex.

02:38:36.000 I want to make a comment about this sham commission and then ask Bob a question.

02:38:41.000 First of all, watching this commission and Richard Clark, I don't know, Alex, but I smell a complimentary smoke screen here.

02:38:51.000 I've got the big smoking gun for you, just like Rowley, the FBI agent.

02:38:54.000 Ignore all the real prior knowledge and involvement. 1.00

02:38:57.000 Oh, you guys just drop the ball because you're dumb, then make it a partisan issue. 0.96

02:39:02.000 He was being attacked quite regularly there, and I don't understand why Mr. Clark didn't bring up at least two issues. 0.97

02:39:08.000 Number one, where was the Commander-in-Chief on the morning of 9-11 when he was sitting reading a book in the Florida classroom while all this was going on instead of taking action?

02:39:17.000 And number two, how come he didn't reveal that it was the White House itself that allowed him to print his book or publish his book at this time?

02:39:26.000 Not his idea.

02:39:27.000 I just didn't understand why he didn't.

02:39:29.000 He had the opportunity to bring those out, and he didn't.

02:39:31.000 It's Shakespearean theory.

02:39:33.000 You got a question for the guest?

02:39:34.000 Yeah, and I have a question for Bob.

02:39:36.000 Bob, I've got some extra cash on hand.

02:39:38.000 Do you advise me buying numismatic gold and silver coins or playing the forex market and selling the dollar short?

02:39:47.000 First of all, are you out of debt except for your house?

02:39:50.000 I don't even have a debt on my house.

02:39:52.000 Well, if that's the case, then you can afford to go and buy numismatic coins, and they're a very good buy at this time.

02:40:00.000 Forex is a foreign exchange market.

02:40:03.000 are a whole thing unto themselves. I was a stockbroker for 28 years on my own firm, and

02:40:09.000 if you're not a professional, stay out. You might buy gold and silver shares. Try to find a broker

02:40:16.000 who specializes in them, who can help you. Stay out of the stock market. Okay, thank you very much.

02:40:22.000 And one more thing, Alex. I don't know if you watched Joe Scarborough last night, but him and

02:40:27.000 Ann Coulter, I've emailed him numerous times asking if he could get you on his show. I

02:40:33.000 I would just love to see you on the Scarborough Show.

02:40:36.000 Well, that's an ultra-liberal socialist program of phony neoconism, and I'm sure they won't, but I appreciate the call.

02:40:43.000 Speaking of Bush, again, on 9-11, he saw the first plane hit.

02:40:47.000 Later, he... Well, at first he said that he first found out about anything going on while reading the story to the children after the second plane had hit.

02:40:56.000 It just goes on and on, but I thought that we would I don't know, re-air this clip, because this is Bush slipping up and not getting his story straight, so here that is.

02:41:07.000 I was sitting outside the classroom, waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower.

02:41:14.000 The TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot.

02:41:22.000 Interesting, Bob. 0.98

02:41:23.000 That sounds like some bonehead talking. 1.00

02:41:26.000 What a silly retort. 0.99

02:41:30.000 it not acting he obviously no uh... he knew but i had a time that was going to 0.92

02:41:35.000 happen uh... that was the first tip off to me when i heard that

02:41:40.000 always not right and the second one was right when i thought the blow up the

02:41:44.000 building uh... if you don't professionally i

02:41:47.000 I then knew it was an inside job.

02:41:50.000 By the way, then the owner, Silverstein, who incidentally, quote, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, a shadowy secretive group of New York real estate owners headed by Silverstein, just bought the Sears Tower.

02:42:03.000 Which magically, they say, is one of the new big targets.

02:42:05.000 But Silverstein went on TV and said, oh yeah, we blew up Building 7 on 9-11.

02:42:10.000 And there are no questions about that.

02:42:12.000 Not now, but there certainly was then.

02:42:15.000 But why do these nuts slip up so much, and then no one calls them on it?

02:42:21.000 Or is this like an open throwing down the gauntlet laughing at us?

02:42:25.000 Open throwing down the gauntlet laughing at us?

02:42:30.000 But, as you said earlier in the program, They're getting a little nervous, because shows like yours, what's on the internet, my publication, others like it, we're really drilling them every day.

02:42:41.000 And, you know, the control isn't what they want it to be.

02:42:48.000 But they do continue to operate in the markets every day.

02:42:52.000 Gold is up $6 almost today, and they are pounding the big gold stocks.

02:42:58.000 That is trying to hold them down, trying to keep them down.

02:43:00.000 We'll go to some more calls here in a second, but since you bring up Bush, my point in playing these clips is that his daddy was pretty smart, former CIA director, but it's never a good sign in North Korea where the son of the leader is the next leader.

02:43:14.000 It's never a good sign in Syria where Assad's daddy gives him power. 0.90

02:43:19.000 This is what we face here, and the media really covers this up.

02:43:23.000 Before 9-11, they would make fun of him for it, but Now they don't.

02:43:28.000 Here's just a couple minutes of famous Bush clips.

02:43:31.000 And again, there are literally, literally hundreds of these.

02:43:37.000 Here's one right now.

02:43:38.000 In my State of the Union, or my Speech to the Nation, whatever you want to call it, Speech to the Nation,

02:43:46.000 I asked Americans to give 4,000 hours over the next, or the rest of your life, of service to America.

02:44:08.000 That's what I asked.

02:44:10.000 I said, 4,000 hours.

02:44:13.000 There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once, shame on you.

02:44:26.000 If you fool me, you can't get fooled again.

02:44:29.000 I was sitting outside the classroom, waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower.

02:44:37.000 The TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot.

02:44:44.000 I think the intelligence I get is darn good intelligence.

02:44:51.000 You're free, and freedom is beautiful.

02:44:54.000 And, uh, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order, but we, but we will.

02:45:02.000 There was a honest difference of opinion as to how to account for a complicated traxation.

02:45:07.000 Traxation?

02:45:09.000 I'll remind you all that I, in order, in order to fight and win the war, uh, it requires a expenditure of money, uh, That is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops to make sure that they're well-paid, well-trained, well-equipped.

02:45:30.000 You're working hard to put food on the family.

02:45:33.000 We're working hard to put food on your family.

02:45:37.000 It's in the interest of a long-term peace in the world that we work for a free and secure and peaceful Iraq.

02:45:46.000 A free and secure Iraq in the midst of the Middle East will have enormous historical impact. 0.94

02:45:55.000 I just had to do that.

02:45:56.000 I'm sorry.

02:45:56.000 Go ahead, Bob.

02:45:57.000 That's okay.

02:45:57.000 He's just, um... It's just as simple as that.

02:46:01.000 And he does what he's told, and he hasn't done a very good job at it.

02:46:05.000 Not only in his speeches and his communicating, but also in the action of him and the people who they have doing the planning for him.

02:46:13.000 And they made a mess out of things.

02:46:16.000 Well, they have.

02:46:17.000 Let's take another call.

02:46:18.000 Let's talk to Jayshaw in Illinois.

02:46:24.000 Go ahead.

02:46:25.000 Hi, Alex.

02:46:26.000 Thank you for getting my name correct.

02:46:28.000 It's Jayshaw.

02:46:30.000 I listen to your show all the time.

02:46:31.000 I've been listening very much to you, Bob.

02:46:34.000 I moved to Chicago a year ago after I graduated college and still haven't been able to find a job.

02:46:40.000 I happen to work at Houston as a server.

02:46:44.000 And I would say that 85% of the people that I work with have degrees.

02:46:50.000 And, you know, are waiting tables and underemployed.

02:46:53.000 Well, hey, according to Bush, you've got a factory, a good, high-tech job of working as a waitress. 0.80

02:46:58.000 Right, yeah.

02:46:59.000 And that's the new economic, uh, you know, system.

02:47:03.000 Yeah, you know, and everything you've been playing at, you know, he's such, everything that he says is such double-speech.

02:47:10.000 You have to think of the exact opposite.

02:47:14.000 The government's growth has doubled under Bush.

02:47:18.000 Campaign finance reform, open borders, he's going to sign the assault weapons ban, supercomputers in China, signed on to UNESCO.

02:47:25.000 It goes on and on, Bob.

02:47:27.000 Absolutely.

02:47:29.000 I saw your SeaWorld.

02:47:31.000 A little bulletin about how you had to get biometrically scanned at SeaWorld for eight dollars more.

02:47:37.000 Well, I refuse, but yeah, if you want to get into SeaWorld, you've got to biometrically scan now, Bob.

02:47:42.000 Well, I haven't gone to SeaWorld for a long, long time because my kids are in their thirties, but that is preposterous.

02:47:51.000 But it's a tragedy that a young person or their family or a combination of both will go out and spend $150,000 or $200,000 educating their children, like this young lady says, and then there's no jobs for them.

02:48:07.000 And plus, they have the bill that they have to pay back if they, in fact, borrowed money to get that education.

02:48:13.000 It is absolutely awful, and every single day, I am reporting they're exporting this job and that job.

02:48:21.000 Now it's legal work, and accounting, and auditing, and patent work.

02:48:27.000 And transcription, and on, and on, and on.

02:48:31.000 Government jobs.

02:48:34.000 All kinds of jobs.

02:48:35.000 It's got to stop.

02:48:37.000 We have to re-elect punitive, protective tariffs.

02:48:44.000 And we've had them since the beginning of our country.

02:48:46.000 They help make us great, and we have to get away from free trade.

02:48:49.000 Well, so-called free trade.

02:48:51.000 A bunch of these countries have the tariffs against us.

02:48:53.000 We just don't have them against them.

02:48:55.000 That's right.

02:48:56.000 But we have to have a protective tariff, and we have to have the end of outsourcing.

02:49:03.000 If you want to outsource, well, then you've got to pay the government so much money.

02:49:06.000 All the jobs will come home, and it'll change everything.

02:49:10.000 And this young lady, like so many young people, will be able to get a job. 0.66

02:49:14.000 You know, I want to tell you another thing.

02:49:15.000 Once you're over 40, the companies don't want you either.

02:49:18.000 I know.

02:49:19.000 I know.

02:49:19.000 You can't win.

02:49:20.000 It is really dreadful.

02:49:23.000 Well, I don't know why you're complaining, ma'am.

02:49:27.000 I'm sorry, but I don't know why you're complaining.

02:49:29.000 You've got a good, factory, high-tech job as a waitress. 0.99

02:49:32.000 Right, which I have been doing for seven years, all through high school and college, with the thought that, you know, as soon as I get out of college, I'm going to leave this job.

02:49:41.000 And, I mean, I'm an honor roll student.

02:49:42.000 I'm actually trying to get into the media.

02:49:44.000 I've done all kinds of media internships.

02:49:46.000 I'm a writer.

02:49:48.000 But, you know, I'm working on my sixth internship right now, where I work for free 30 hours a week.

02:49:53.000 Every single day and we've got to stop it.

02:49:56.000 It's going to destroy our country.

02:49:57.000 and i think you're going to have a good mom it's getting worse

02:50:01.000 every single day and we've got to stop it it's going to destroy

02:50:06.000 our country it's destroying our young people because they've got 1.00

02:50:11.000 nowhere to go and what are they doing if you know in order to provide

02:50:15.000 They're using credit cards.

02:50:16.000 So, not only are they working the ones that can and can get jobs, but they're running these horrendous debt thefts because they can't make it in the amount of money that they're making.

02:50:25.000 Okay, I'm going to give Brett and H.W.

02:50:28.000 a few minutes here when we get back and give you that toll-free number to get a free copy of The International Forecaster.

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02:54:00.000 Let's take a few final calls.

02:54:04.000 Bretton, Washington State, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:54:06.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:54:08.000 We got cut off yesterday.

02:54:10.000 Okay, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:54:12.000 Yes, New World Order.

02:54:15.000 Immigration, Israel, or the economy?

02:54:17.000 I'll give you as the honored host of the show to pick the topic.

02:54:21.000 Well, I mean the New World Order, I mean the economy, I mean... Okay, let's go to the New World Order.

02:54:28.000 What a perfect opportunity with what has happened in the last... What was it?

02:54:33.000 Three days ago, when they assassinated that Hamas leader?

02:54:35.000 Hello?

02:54:38.000 Uh, yeah, I'm listening to you.

02:54:40.000 Yeah, they assassinated that Hamas leader.

02:54:43.000 You know, Alex, if they retaliate in mass scale, and when I say mass scale, I'm talking not just tens or hundreds, but thousands dead over there, what is Israel going to retaliate with?

02:54:56.000 Hold on, Israel helped found Hamas, that's what they want, is chaos, as a way to oppress the Israelis, as a way to oppress the Palestinians. 0.60

02:55:03.000 This is bigger than just Israel.

02:55:04.000 Thanks for the call.

02:55:05.000 Comments to that, John?

02:55:08.000 No, the situation, I think, is going to elevate and it's going to get worse.

02:55:13.000 And that's what they want.

02:55:16.000 They want an excuse.

02:55:17.000 That's it.

02:55:18.000 And there was a Reuters headline that the assassination of the Hamas leader actually, actually empowered Hamas.

02:55:25.000 Let's talk to Mike in Illinois.

02:55:26.000 Mike, go ahead.

02:55:27.000 Yeah, Alex, how you doing?

02:55:28.000 Hi to your guest.

02:55:29.000 Alex, I just want to ask you a quick question on your guest.

02:55:31.000 If you could comment on, I talked to you a couple weeks ago about this.

02:55:35.000 Jobs are leaving at an astronomical rate.

02:55:38.000 I just want to ask, Kim, now you say, you know, we've got to stop this, but is there really, are we to the point of no return right now as far as losing all these?

02:55:45.000 Here's one thing we can do.

02:55:48.000 There were laws, and they're ignoring them, or they've repealed them, I don't know if they've repealed them, where if there's going to be government contracts, it has to be given to Americans.

02:55:55.000 Why, when you call for your welfare check, does the call go to India?

02:56:00.000 Or why is IRS work being done in India?

02:56:02.000 I mean, jobs like, by American, Bob, I think that you have to go after your Congressmen and Senators and just work them over and get everybody that you know to do the same thing about the issues that we're talking about.

02:56:15.000 Otherwise, it's going into the streets and that's the only alternative you'll ultimately have if you don't take a shot at telling them how you feel.

02:56:23.000 It's unbelievable.

02:56:24.000 Alex, I want to tell you though, I was a victim of the India thing. 1.00

02:56:27.000 I spoke to a gentleman who was actually in India giving me a customer service for a telephone company.

02:56:34.000 It's amazing.

02:56:36.000 Thanks for the call, Mike.

02:56:37.000 HW in Colorado.

02:56:39.000 You've got about 45 seconds.

02:56:40.000 Go ahead.

02:56:41.000 Alex, hi.

02:56:43.000 I think you guys are ready for talking some philosophy of life.

02:56:48.000 Because anything else doesn't make any sense anymore.

02:56:54.000 Technology is a Trojan horse.

02:56:58.000 And world government, forget it.

02:57:02.000 Because it ought to be God.

02:57:04.000 That works to the six billion people.

02:57:07.000 I hear you.

02:57:09.000 Thanks for the call.

02:57:10.000 I think what H.W.

02:57:10.000 is saying is we have to change the hearts and minds.

02:57:13.000 The change starts at home.

02:57:15.000 If we hadn't become decadent and fat yuppies, they couldn't have gotten away with this if we would have been involved.

02:57:22.000 Bob?

02:57:23.000 I agree.

02:57:24.000 But we still have to pursue as long and hard as possible, and even if it gets very, very frustrating at times.

02:57:32.000 Well, yeah, I mean, if we weren't here fighting this and exposing this, things would be a lot worse right now.

02:57:37.000 It would have been.

02:57:37.000 The case would have been closed years ago.

02:57:40.000 Absolutely.

02:57:41.000 I mean, that's history.

02:57:42.000 Bob Chapman, thanks for coming on the show.

02:57:44.000 Thanks for having me again.

02:57:45.000 Loved it.

02:57:46.000 You bet.

02:57:46.000 We'll have you back.

02:57:47.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central, and back on Monday, 11 to 2 central, right here on this same station.

02:57:55.000 And I want to thank the affiliates, the sponsors, the folks running the show, of course, number one, God, and the listeners for everything.

02:58:03.000 And I just hope we've gotten you to think.

02:58:05.000 We've jumped around a lot, covered a lot of different news and issues.

02:58:08.000 The power elite doesn't care about your life, your standard of living.

02:58:12.000 They want you under their control. 0.75

02:58:14.000 They want you broken down and dumbed down. 0.97

02:58:16.000 So stop being part of it. 0.90

02:58:18.000 Love your family.

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02:58:22.000 That's how we're going to save this country.

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