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00:00:39.000 It is Thursday, the 22nd day of April 2004.

00:00:42.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:46.000 We'll be live for the next three hours here in the broadcast.

00:00:50.000 Massive amounts of key news coming up, as well as some guests.

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00:01:33.000 Yesterday, I spent a lot of the three hours talking about the official government move by Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and the House and the Congress, pushing for a national draft.

00:01:45.000 And you're going to see, the way things are going right now, they have every intention of giving you a universal draft, as they're calling it, right after the election.

00:02:00.000 And then they're going to blame the terror attacks that the military-industrial complex is going to carry out.

00:02:06.000 They're going to blame those on a host of new nations. 0.90

00:02:09.000 And you're going to see this economy totally shift into war.

00:02:13.000 The domestic police state ratcheted up at untold levels.

00:02:18.000 The only way to stop this is to create a mass awakening to what's happening, what's developing.

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00:02:35.000 Coming up, up to 3,000 casualties in North Korea rail blast.

00:02:40.000 The North Koreans are reporting.

00:02:42.000 They're not saying it's terrorism, just the shoddy way they run their country.

00:02:46.000 Of course, the liberals in this country, if something kills somebody, it should be banned.

00:02:49.000 So, we should ban trains worldwide because they hurt the children.

00:02:54.000 Also out of the Australian, 61 dead in rush hour carnage.

00:02:59.000 Wow, never been 61 die when some nut goes around with a gun. 0.65

00:03:02.000 Let's ban cars! 1.00

00:03:05.000 I shouldn't joke about it.

00:03:06.000 They'll probably come out and say they want to do that.

00:03:10.000 China says suspected SARS case in Beijing, one of their provinces.

00:03:15.000 Lawmakers seek details on Iraq's strategy.

00:03:17.000 That'll be a big advertiser for the war.

00:03:19.000 The Democrats are saying, it's a quagmire!

00:03:21.000 We've got to stay!

00:03:22.000 Kerry, we've got to stay!

00:03:23.000 Bush, we've got to stay!

00:03:25.000 All together, you see, Pentagon deleted Rumsfeld comments from a transcript where Rumsfeld said that he didn't know the threat was this bad and stuff's pretty serious.

00:03:38.000 He said that on national television, but magically, The Pentagon transcript's been altered.

00:03:43.000 Well, we've seen Bush give a speech, seen them alter the transcript, and then seen simultaneously on Fox News and CNN, not just the White House transcript, but their transcripts are being altered, showing centralized control.

00:03:58.000 So the Washington Post should look at that, and look at themselves in the mirror.

00:04:02.000 In fact, we even saw them change the Of the President's transcript back when he said this is a staged, this is a scripted press conference.

00:04:10.000 That got changed!

00:04:11.000 I haven't looked!

00:04:12.000 Have they changed the transcript last week?

00:04:15.000 When he gave the third press conference of his presidency?

00:04:20.000 And he said, hey, you should have given me this question written in advance to the reporter who asked what his biggest mistake was after 9-11.

00:04:27.000 You know, he paused for five seconds, turned red and said, you should have given me this question in writing!

00:04:34.000 Wow, this is a tough question.

00:04:35.000 I'm up here.

00:04:36.000 It's very stressful.

00:04:39.000 Have they changed that?

00:04:40.000 I probably have.

00:04:42.000 So just to show the staged event.

00:04:44.000 Look, that's only the tip of the iceberg.

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00:04:47.000 I've got some audio clips for you as well.

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00:08:08.000 That's right again, it's Thursday.

00:08:16.000 22nd of April 2004. Big broadcast lined up for you. Last year we discovered a PBS documentary

00:08:28.000 called America Rebuilding where the owner of World Trade Center Complex, Larry Silverstein,

00:08:32.000 says that they made the decision on the afternoon of 9-11 when building 7, the 47 story building

00:08:38.000 was burning, to go ahead and pull it.

00:08:40.000 They gave the order to pull it and watch the building come down.

00:08:42.000 Then we play the clip where they go, pulling means demolishing.

00:08:47.000 And plus we have the firefighters saying bombs were in all the buildings, and the firefighters telling reporters to get back from Building 7.

00:08:53.000 They were about to pull it.

00:08:56.000 The mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, telling ABC News that morning, oh, we were told to get out of Building 7 because it was going to come down later.

00:09:05.000 You have all that posted.

00:09:07.000 And in another PBS documentary, 9-1-1 Memorial that we just learned of, and this stuff just slips out, They are interviewing people and they talk about seeing the plane fire missiles into the building.

00:09:23.000 Which clearly, one of the planes hitting the second tower, clearly has a large pod on the bottom.

00:09:30.000 People looked at the weapons dictionaries, it looks like a configured cruise missile platform.

00:09:37.000 That you see mounted on B-52's and you see a flash, you see exhaust, you see something shoot out, hit the building, and then come out the other end as the plane is just starting to hit the building.

00:09:51.000 So it got up close and fired something.

00:09:54.000 It just goes on and on.

00:09:55.000 Well, in this PBS documentary we just learned of, that we posted at PrisonPlanet.com, it shows somebody talking about that, so we're going to play that later.

00:10:05.000 Also, in the French documentary from the guys doing a documentary on American firefighters, they've got the firefighters talking about how they ran away as the building went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and how they barely escaped the bombs.

00:10:17.000 That's been posted.

00:10:18.000 It just goes on and on and on and on and on and on.

00:10:24.000 And don't expect to see U.S.

00:10:25.000 Sunday, you know, months, years after we report on these different stories.

00:10:30.000 Months in many cases, years in some cases.

00:10:33.000 Don't expect them to ever cover this, because they've been doing some damage control.

00:10:37.000 Oh, you know, on Monday, there was a drill of flying hijacked jets into the World Trade Center in the Pentagon, but the upper-level brass said it was too unrealistic and didn't do the drill.

00:10:47.000 No, they did a drill two years before 9-11, November 3rd.

00:10:50.000 They did a drill the morning of 9-11, that's all admitted, from the Pentagon website.

00:10:53.000 The media ignores that and chooses to pick another drill and then focus in on that.

00:10:59.000 You know they come out in the Associated Press yesterday and say Oklahoma City bomb document cites a video of multiple suspects and I haven't covered this properly but again for You see, four, five, six years, seven years, since 97, almost seven years, I've been talking about the surveillance cameras.

00:11:16.000 They're admitted!

00:11:17.000 The FBI's been on the record.

00:11:19.000 So, there's all of this evidence just swarming around.

00:11:22.000 They're having to respond to a lot of it.

00:11:24.000 But I haven't heard them respond to Larry Silverstein just popping off and saying, we pulled Building 7.

00:11:30.000 But it's not just him saying that!

00:11:31.000 Then we have the firefighters and the AP and the seismographs from the federal seismograph and the state seismographs, two separate seismographs, just like Oklahoma City.

00:11:41.000 We've got state and federal seismographs, got copies of them admitted, demolition pattern.

00:11:46.000 They've recorded demolition explosion patterns thousands of times when they've brought down buildings publicly and admittedly, and it's the exact same pattern.

00:11:54.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!

00:11:56.000 Boom, boom, boom! 0.95

00:11:58.000 I mean, just come on!

00:12:04.000 So that's all on the sites, and we're going to play some of the new clips.

00:12:07.000 We're going to play a clip of a caller, and I don't put much stock in this, but we'll play it from the Howard Stern Show.

00:12:12.000 Howard Stern's in all this trouble now, so suddenly he knows about the New World Order, suddenly he knows about 9-11, he's been threatening on the air, leave me alone, stop taking me off stations, or I'll talk more about the truth.

00:12:23.000 And they are starting to back off of him, a little bit.

00:12:28.000 He had this caller though saying, yeah, I saw the shoot down of the flight.

00:12:34.000 Forget what Stern's caller has to say, we have the local Pennsylvania papers where state police saw planes, F-16s, shooting it down.

00:12:45.000 Flight 93.

00:12:47.000 We've had Colonel Don DeGrand Prix on.

00:12:50.000 With his Pentagon contacts, he knows the pilot that fired the two Sidewinder missiles into the aircraft.

00:12:57.000 The general at the base wasn't getting orders, had been told to stand down.

00:13:01.000 He just said, that's it!

00:13:02.000 That plane's going towards D.C. 0.99

00:13:04.000 Shoot it down! 1.00

00:13:05.000 On his own orders. 0.98

00:13:07.000 And good thing he did.

00:13:08.000 Can you imagine?

00:13:09.000 Can you imagine if that plane would have flown into the Capitol?

00:13:12.000 The police state we would have been in?

00:13:16.000 Only about 30 minutes away from the Capitol.

00:13:19.000 Just a beeline right for downtown, you know, D.C.

00:13:22.000 So we don't know the specific target.

00:13:24.000 They've surmised the Capitol or the White House or the Supreme Court.

00:13:28.000 Who knows?

00:13:29.000 It's just horrible.

00:13:30.000 It's just absolutely horrible.

00:13:33.000 And NORAD was standing down, you know, for the first plane because they were told it was a CIA drill that was going on at that very time with that very thing happening.

00:13:41.000 And finally, the General at the Air Force Base said, that's it, shoot it down.

00:13:46.000 By the way, six months before 9-11, when we posted this mainstream article, right off the Pentagon site, because they post all their orders, all their general orders up there, and then think we're too stupid to go find them, but a couple months ago it came out.

00:13:58.000 The headline we put on it is, uh, 9-11 stand-down order smoking gun question mark.

00:14:04.000 There's other smoking guns there, it's just one of them.

00:14:08.000 And it's the order Rumsfeld gave that generals can no longer order the shoot-down of jets.

00:14:14.000 And now, going back 40 years, if a jet or a plane is off course going to fly into something, they've got shoot-down orders, just like Payne Stewart, the golfer.

00:14:22.000 They follow it. 0.92

00:14:22.000 If it's going into a populated area, they shoot it down. 0.92

00:14:26.000 And that's very reasonable.

00:14:28.000 You know, if it's off course, lost pressure, everybody's dead, that's why they first started this back in the 60s.

00:14:33.000 But magically, right before 9-11, they come out and say, oh, you can't do that anymore.

00:14:39.000 Well, the General just did it.

00:14:42.000 And we've gone over that with Colonel Don DeGranpre.

00:14:43.000 We're going to be getting back on the broadcast, by the way, very soon.

00:14:47.000 That transcript's on the website as well.

00:14:48.000 So that's just some of the really serious stuff that's going on right now.

00:14:53.000 We'll play some of those clips in the next hour with Paul Joseph Watson.

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00:24:18.000 two three one let me go ahead and i've straight into some of the news

00:24:24.000 terrible events in china uh... china says suspected stars case in beijing and uh...

00:24:32.000 stars season i think this is a bunch of fear mongering but why it's

00:24:35.000 by terrible news is that this will be a nice political diversion

00:24:38.000 here in the states and more training us for quarantine jim the health department having all these police state powers

00:24:45.000 Up to 3,000 casualties in North Korean rail blasts.

00:24:49.000 3,000 people were killed or injured in the huge explosion on Thursday when two goods trains collided in a North Korean station hours after leader Kim Jong-il had passed through South Korea's YTN television station set.

00:25:05.000 And they're not saying that they don't think it's terrorism, but could it be his own military trying to kill this lunatic?

00:25:11.000 The psychopath that our government's given nuclear reactors to, that Donald Rumsfeld was the bag man as the head of ABB, transferring them to him, the Swiss company.

00:25:20.000 And again, the socialists in this world say, ban anything that hurts human life.

00:25:25.000 You know, we are slaves, well then let's ban all trains.

00:25:29.000 build-up thousands of sank also sixty one dead in rush hour carnage in

00:25:34.000 australia let's ban cars you know they're

00:25:37.000 they're trying to ban baseball bats in some cities but you got a special permit to have one of my carrier

00:25:43.000 are banned stun guns no one's been killed the stun gun but that matter

00:25:47.000 people get killed baseball bats let's bam least uh... sixty one people were killed today and dozens

00:25:52.000 were wounded and a series of bomb attacks in british occupied

00:25:56.000 so that i rock die after a mortar

00:25:59.000 uh... a strike on us from prison west of baghdad that left twenty two inmates uh...

00:26:06.000 dead So again, the Australian, not in Australia, the Australian.

00:26:12.000 So since it was rush hour and it caused a bombing, again, I'm being sarcastic here. 0.61

00:26:16.000 I'm trying to be insane on air to just illustrate the ridiculous insanity of the control freaks in this nation who say, ban guns because somebody might get hurt by them and because criminals use them.

00:26:30.000 That's all the more reason for the American people to own guns to defend ourselves.

00:26:36.000 So, because people die in rush hour because of bombings, let's ban cars.

00:26:44.000 That'll stop that.

00:26:45.000 No, it's not the car's fault.

00:26:47.000 It's not the explosive's fault.

00:26:49.000 It's the fault of the people carrying out the bombings.

00:26:52.000 And that goes for real car pile-ups.

00:26:57.000 That we see all the time where people die.

00:26:59.000 They had one a few years ago up in Wisconsin where I think like 40-something people died in a pileup, no bombs involved.

00:27:05.000 And the question is, is there going to be a call for banning cars?

00:27:09.000 And of course there's not going to be.

00:27:12.000 Alright, enough, uh, enough, uh, I don't know, dark satire.

00:27:18.000 I'm getting a little bit out of control here.

00:27:21.000 Lawmakers seek details on Iraq's strategy.

00:27:23.000 And again, this will turn into a big advertisement for the Iraq War, just like the 9-11 Commission did.

00:27:30.000 Lawmakers will keep pressing the Bush administration until they get a detailed explanation of its situation in Iraq.

00:27:37.000 Its strategy, a senator said yesterday, opening a second day of sometimes contentious hearings on the increasingly violent occupation, citing a host of questions about the planned transfer of power in Baghdad June 30th.

00:27:54.000 Senator Lugar said his Senate Foreign Relations Committee will be persistent in asking these questions and others because the American people should have the opportunity to understand the administration and plan and to carefully monitor its progress.

00:28:07.000 I mean, Lugar is a CFR minion of all of this, but oh, we're going to get tough on you and we want answers.

00:28:15.000 And we're seeing the Democrats Running around going, Bush you're so bad on this war, you really messed this up, you're evil, but we gotta stay in Iraq and we've gotta, you know, we're stuck there now, it's a quagmire, we gotta stay, but we gotta have the UN in to be our boss.

00:28:31.000 Acting like there's some difference in plan between the Democratic leadership and the Republican leadership.

00:28:35.000 Bush said before the war the plan was to turn it over to the U.N.

00:28:38.000 later.

00:28:39.000 That was all a staged, theatrical, thespian display between Bush and, you know, saying the U.N.

00:28:47.000 will be illegitimate if they don't get behind the war.

00:28:49.000 That's all part of the good cop, bad cop paradigm that they love to manipulate.

00:28:56.000 Speaking of manipulation, this is out of the Washington Post.

00:29:01.000 Pentagon deleted Rumsfeld's comment, remarked to Saudis, about war's certainty is not in internet transcript of interview.

00:29:11.000 And we've caught them changing, again, many of these.

00:29:14.000 When Bush says this is a staged or scripted press conference, they take that out.

00:29:18.000 And then the news media follows suit, despite the fact that the video is clear of what Bush is saying.

00:29:23.000 When Rumsfeld comes out and says, I'm not sure about You know, these casualties are worse than we thought.

00:29:28.000 Things aren't going like we thought they would.

00:29:29.000 That gets removed, and now his comments to the Saudis are being edited.

00:29:35.000 That's not a good sign, folks, of a free society.

00:29:38.000 So we'll cover that as well.

00:29:41.000 And then we'll get into just a bunch of police state news and a gay militia storms Christian meeting. 0.70

00:29:47.000 We'll get to that, but first, your calls.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:00.000 Waging war on corruption. Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:11.000 The end.

00:33:16.000 In the dystopic novel by George Orwell, 1984, written in 1948, the government controls the media, and when they change their story or get caught in a lie, they go back and edit the newspapers, edit the transcripts.

00:33:36.000 And George Orwell, who was really Eric Blair, had worked for the British Secret Police in India.

00:33:41.000 He then fought for the Communists in Spain.

00:33:44.000 He'd seen what that was all about, that they were a fraud.

00:33:47.000 He then worked for the BBC and found out that the Communists and the Fascists were all controlled by the same people and had these phony wars.

00:33:55.000 And that the government was really secretly bombing its own buildings as a pretext for control.

00:33:59.000 I mean, the book covers what George Orwell or Eric Blair really thought the world would be like from working for the secret police of the British Empire, working for the Communists, then working for the BBC.

00:34:13.000 And Winston in 1984 works basically for the BBC, or the Ministry of Truth.

00:34:18.000 That's George Orwell.

00:34:20.000 He's writing basically about his experiences and what he thinks is going to happen.

00:34:24.000 He gave speeches, wrote letters, wrote news articles about this.

00:34:28.000 And in 1984, they go back and edit things and change things.

00:34:32.000 And we're catching them in this more and more.

00:34:34.000 I mean, we have a Pentagon that plants fake letters from the troops in newspapers with false signatures, that declares mass graves, mobile weapons trucks, Iraq weapons dossiers written by graduate students twelve years before.

00:34:47.000 You already know all about that.

00:34:50.000 But now they even go into transcripts on the White House website and the Pentagon website and change them!

00:34:57.000 And then we'll save the White House transcript.

00:35:01.000 We know to do this now.

00:35:02.000 We've caught them doing it and shown this in the past.

00:35:04.000 We have articles about it on the website.

00:35:06.000 We'll save it and then show them change it.

00:35:09.000 And then magically, when the White House changes the transcript, CNN, Fox, they all do it simultaneously.

00:35:16.000 I mean, within minutes!

00:35:17.000 Showing incredible networking and infrastructure of control.

00:35:24.000 And here's the Washington Post making you think that they're telling you about this, but they only give you the tip of the iceberg.

00:35:28.000 Pentagon deleted Rumsfeld's comments, remarked to Saudi about war certainty, is not an internet transcript of interview.

00:35:38.000 The Pentagon deleted from a public transcript a statement Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made to an author, Bob Woodward, suggesting that the administration gave Saudi Arabia a two-month heads-up that President Bush had decided to invade Iraq.

00:35:52.000 That issue was a passage in Woodward's Plan of Attack, an account published this week of Bush's decision-making about the war, quoting Rumsfeld and telling Prince Bandar bin Sultan that the Saudi ambassador to Washington in January 2003 that he could, quote, take that to the bank and the invasion would happen.

00:36:10.000 The comment came in a key moment in the run-up to the war, when Rumsfeld and other officials were briefing Bandar on a military plan to attack and invade Iraq, and pointing to a top-secret map that showed how the war plan would unfold.

00:36:22.000 The book reports that the meeting with Bandar was held on January 11, 2003, and Vice President Cheney's West Wing office, General Richard B. Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also attended.

00:36:33.000 Myers got promoted after having Norad stand down.

00:36:35.000 He was the head of Norad.

00:36:36.000 I'd just like to mention little connections for you.

00:36:38.000 Pentagon officials omitted the decision, the discussion of the meeting from a transcript of the Woodward interview that they posted on the Defense Department's website Monday.

00:36:48.000 See, they're coming out and accusing Woodward of stuff and then editing transcripts.

00:36:52.000 And remember that Sybil Edmonds, the FBI translator, hired to falsify.

00:36:57.000 They hired her and said, go back and change all these intercepts from weeks before and months before 9-11 of specific plans to fly hijacked jets into New York Trade Center and D.C.

00:37:07.000 Pentagon.

00:37:09.000 She said, I'm not going to do that.

00:37:10.000 That's a felony.

00:37:12.000 And they said, Mrs. Edmonds will promote you and give you double the pay if you shut up. 1.00

00:37:16.000 If you don't, we're going to arrest you.

00:37:19.000 Ashcroft told her that personally.

00:37:22.000 Gave her a call.

00:37:23.000 And this has now finally been in the news months after we reported on it here on the broadcast for about a month after we reported on it.

00:37:30.000 So, they do this over and over and over again.

00:37:33.000 This is very, very serious.

00:37:37.000 I mean, we're catching them in lies all the time, and the neocons won't talk about it.

00:37:41.000 Imagine if we caught Bill Clinton in lies like this.

00:37:43.000 Well, we did, and we exposed him.

00:37:45.000 And so, if we're going to expose Bill Clinton's corruption, well, now Bush is in the cockpit.

00:37:49.000 We're going to expose his people. 0.92

00:37:52.000 I'm very, very serious that they continue to do this.

00:37:56.000 All right, I'll go to your calls in just one moment.

00:37:59.000 I wanted to get to this article, though, because it's very important.

00:38:02.000 It's from WorldNetDaily, it's on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:38:07.000 Gay Militia Storms Christian Meeting! 0.96

00:38:13.000 Mass members of a group called the Gay Militia, this by the way is in the big Canadian papers, stormed into a meeting of Christians discussing a bill that would criminalize certain opposition to homosexual behavior in Canada.

00:38:25.000 Now, in Pennsylvania two years ago, The governor passed a bill and warned preachers that reading Old Testament passages criticizing homosexuality could be civil or criminal penalties.

00:38:37.000 And then some of the different Christian groups put out warnings to their preachers not to talk bad about it.

00:38:42.000 I mean, that was in the Associated Press.

00:38:45.000 We covered it here on the show.

00:38:46.000 So this is going on all over the place.

00:38:49.000 Even if you're a homosexual and you think it's horrible that people are against it, don't you understand it's the First Amendment?

00:38:55.000 Because if they take our First Amendment, they're going to take your First Amendment. 0.99

00:38:59.000 That's what America's all about is freedom of speech.

00:39:02.000 This is the harassment.

00:39:04.000 This is what's happening.

00:39:06.000 Masked members of a group called the Gay Militia stormed into a meeting of Christians discussing a bill that would criminalize certain opposition to homosexual behavior in Canada.

00:39:14.000 A videotape, there's a clip, there's a link to this, of the incident shows the intruders with bandana-covered faces marching into a meeting room at the Coast Plaza Hotel in Calgary, Alberta, where the Concerned Christian Coalition ...was holding its national convention Saturday night in Calgary.

00:39:34.000 The Calgary Sun reported.

00:39:36.000 Right-wing bigots go away! 1.00

00:39:38.000 Gay militia is here to stay! 1.00

00:39:39.000 The intruders chanted. 0.98

00:39:41.000 The Calgary paper said about seven females and one male from a homosexual group were in the room.

00:39:45.000 About 25 members of the convention held hands and prayed aloud.

00:39:48.000 A female gay militia member unfurled a banner and read, Liberation! 0.99

00:39:53.000 Queer Invasion! 0.99

00:39:55.000 Okay.

00:39:56.000 Well, see, that's the point.

00:39:58.000 If you've got your life and what you do, you know, this is a free country, but when you, no, you want to cram it down society's throat, you want to make, you want to recruit in the elementary schools, and I've read a hundred articles about this on the show, I mean, just horrible stuff that I can't even mention on air that they're teaching fifth graders.

00:40:23.000 I mean, I have Reuters, AP, and Washington Post articles, I have a whole file on this, and stations have asked that we not cover on air what fifth graders are taught.

00:40:34.000 So we won't do it!

00:40:35.000 Even though it's been in World Net Daily and everywhere else, and I'm sure you've all heard the stories.

00:40:39.000 I mean, I've tried to not cover this stuff.

00:40:45.000 I ignore it all the time.

00:40:47.000 I mean, maybe I should cover this stuff, but the point is, is that we've got to face what's going on.

00:40:53.000 I mean, look, I don't care if it's a homosexual or a heterosexual. 0.77

00:40:57.000 Stay away from our children.

00:40:58.000 When you try to target, and that's what's happening, in recruiting schools, that's called pedophilia.

00:41:06.000 And remember Dr. Lorem, four years ago?

00:41:11.000 Months after we reported on it, but again, she picked up on it.

00:41:15.000 Many Christians were talking about it.

00:41:16.000 Many people that are just concerned about children were.

00:41:19.000 The American Psychological Society, founded, by the way, by Dr. Ewing Cameron out of Canada.

00:41:25.000 Dr. Ewing Cameron, by the way, there's big History Channel specials where they kidnapped over 1,000 women and men and would put them on drugs, give them electroshock with audio feedback, turning them into mind control slaves.

00:41:37.000 Folks, he was convicted in civil court.

00:41:39.000 It's admitted.

00:41:40.000 A CIA program in Canada kidnapping over a thousand people over 20 years.

00:41:44.000 Mainstream news.

00:41:45.000 Middle class people.

00:41:47.000 He founded it, by the way, but Dr. Laura, all she did was read, because I heard the show, all she did was read the Transcript the report in the American Psychological Association magazine that comes out bi-monthly.

00:42:08.000 All she did was read it, and it said that it was good for children, you know, as young as five to have sex with adults, and it should be legalized, and pedophilia shouldn't be listed as a mental illness.

00:42:20.000 I agree, it should be listed as a crime punishable by death. 0.90

00:42:26.000 Leave our children alone! 1.00

00:42:29.000 And so, if you're a homosexual pervert or a heterosexual pervert, stop it! 1.00

00:42:34.000 Stop the queer invasion! 1.00

00:42:38.000 Continuing, I'll go to your calls in a minute.

00:42:41.000 And a lot of people don't want to hear this.

00:42:42.000 A lot of parents just want to ignore this is going on.

00:42:44.000 Believe me, it's going on in your school if it's a big public school.

00:42:48.000 Right-wing bigots go away! 1.00

00:42:50.000 Gay militias here to stay! 1.00

00:42:51.000 The intruder's Janet. 0.99

00:42:52.000 The Calgary paper said about seven families And one male from the homosexual... seven females, excuse me.

00:42:59.000 The Fowler paper said that about seven females and one male from the homosexual group were in the room and about 25 members of the convention held hands and prayed aloud.

00:43:06.000 The female gay militia members unfurled a banner that read, Liberation Queer Invasion. 0.55

00:43:11.000 Calgary police are reviewing several videotapes of the meeting and an investigation is underway according to police constable Doug Jones, the hate bias crime coordinator for the Police Cultural Resources Unit.

00:43:26.000 We were all looking at it, and if we can identify the protesters, it is mischief charges, disturbing a peaceful assembly kind of stuff, he told The Sun.

00:43:36.000 Jim Blake, a member of the Christian group, told the paper that he was dumbfounded at the fact that the gay militia would storm into a private meeting where we were praying and discussing Bill C-250, a bill that would affect our freedoms as Christians to discuss certain beliefs.

00:43:52.000 The controversial bill which passed the House of Commons last September adds sexual orientation as a protected category in Canada's genocide and hate crime legislation.

00:44:00.000 By the way, that legislation in Canada, if you say that 5,999,000 Jews died in the Holocaust, you will be arrested and you will serve two to ten years in prison.

00:44:15.000 And there's huge fines.

00:44:16.000 And they've arrested a bunch of people. 0.95

00:44:18.000 Now look, Hitler killed a bunch of Jews, Hitler was bad, yes.

00:44:23.000 But it's historical to be able to debate it. 0.73

00:44:25.000 If I want to say that 900 billion Jews were killed, then I should be able to say it. 1.00

00:44:30.000 If I want to say 5 Jews were killed, I should be able to say it. 1.00

00:44:34.000 Okay?

00:44:36.000 That's free speech, folks!

00:44:38.000 We live in a country now, in a world, we're from England to the US, peaceful anti-war protesters, old ladies are being beaten up by police, reporters, judges are being attacked. 0.61

00:44:49.000 They lead old people down an alley and then beat them up and say you shouldn't protest the war.

00:44:53.000 That's been in the Miami Papers, beat up their own reporters.

00:44:57.000 So see, you want to shut down conservatives' free speech, well don't worry, yours is going to get shut down too!

00:45:03.000 We've got to come together on this.

00:45:05.000 It says, the World Met Daily reported opponents fear it becomes law the Bible will be deemed hate literature under the criminal code in certain instances because it criminalizes criticizing homosexuality.

00:45:16.000 As evidenced by the case of Saskatchewan man fined by a provincial human rights tribunal for taking out a newspaper ad with scripture references to verses about homosexuality.

00:45:25.000 See?

00:45:26.000 The bill now in the Senate, where it has overwhelming support, the two-thirds amendment were introduced April 1st and laying a vote.

00:45:32.000 Alright, I'm not going to go any further.

00:45:33.000 Let's go to your calls quickly.

00:45:34.000 I meant to go to them earlier.

00:45:36.000 It's just... You know, stop it.

00:45:41.000 Leave us alone.

00:45:42.000 Stop trying to force your agenda on us.

00:45:45.000 Stop trying to sexualize our children! 1.00

00:45:47.000 Leave us alone! 1.00

00:45:48.000 You know, they make people who want certain types of degrees in college now take these classes where you gotta go to popless bars, you gotta go to S&M clubs, you gotta go to all these places.

00:46:00.000 That's abusive!

00:46:01.000 Stop forcing it on people!

00:46:04.000 You know, if you want a liberal arts degree or a sociology degree, you shouldn't have to do this.

00:46:09.000 I'm so sick of it.

00:46:11.000 I'd like to just ignore all this, but you can't!

00:46:14.000 Let's go ahead and take calls.

00:46:17.000 Tim in Nebraska, thanks for holding.

00:46:19.000 Yeah, the other day you were going to talk about Columbine in the third hour, and I couldn't listen.

00:46:24.000 I was wondering if you could give us an update.

00:46:25.000 You know what?

00:46:26.000 I will do that today.

00:46:27.000 I just barely mentioned it.

00:46:28.000 I dropped the ball.

00:46:30.000 I'll get into Columbine today.

00:46:31.000 Well, I missed it, so... Well, I mean, look.

00:46:35.000 What do you say?

00:46:37.000 A son of an FBI agent... The day I was watching it, I couldn't figure out why the The SWAT team just sat outside.

00:46:46.000 Well, I had the Rocky Mountain News editor on a couple years ago and I said, you know, the SWAT team stayed outside for three hours.

00:46:51.000 That was wrong.

00:46:52.000 He goes, no, Mr. Jones, four hours, five minutes.

00:46:57.000 I go, oh, excuse me.

00:46:59.000 It's like I say, 144 bin Laden's got blown up by Bush. 0.65

00:47:02.000 Oh, Judicial Watch got the documents.

00:47:03.000 It's 160.

00:47:04.000 It's always worse than what I say.

00:47:07.000 And four hours plus, but again, that's a small piece of evidence.

00:47:12.000 Did you know that the son of a prominent FBI agent founded the Trenchcoat Mafia? 0.67

00:47:16.000 They made videos of the simulated shootings a year before.

00:47:20.000 Harrison Kleibold ran the school's internet.

00:47:23.000 They supposedly got over a hundred bombs in the school.

00:47:26.000 Students came out and said they saw four masked men shooting.

00:47:31.000 Then Harrison Kleibold supposedly blew their own heads off.

00:47:33.000 Witnesses said they saw them get shot.

00:47:36.000 The SWAT team stays outside.

00:47:37.000 Admittedly shoots some of the students coming out.

00:47:39.000 That's been in the major Denver papers, but nobody outside Colorado even knows about it.

00:47:44.000 The principal was having an early lunch, hiding out down the street with the sheriff at a subway.

00:47:52.000 About 40% of the school was empty that day.

00:47:54.000 Should I continue?

00:47:57.000 Well, thanks.

00:47:59.000 Well, no.

00:47:59.000 I mean, anything else?

00:48:01.000 No, I just wanted to get a little more info on that because I knew something was fishy about it.

00:48:08.000 Well, it also happened the week before the NRA convention and the very week that a giant gun-grabbing convention was being held in New Orleans with George Soros and others.

00:48:18.000 Uh-huh.

00:48:19.000 And it goes on and on and on.

00:48:20.000 I appreciate the call.

00:48:21.000 Alright, thanks.

00:48:22.000 You bet.

00:48:23.000 That's how they're helping turn the schools into little mini-prisons.

00:48:26.000 That's the agenda.

00:48:27.000 William in Missouri.

00:48:28.000 Go ahead, William.

00:48:32.000 Yes, well, um, I was just mostly calling.

00:48:34.000 I talked to a lot of, uh, a lot of my friends are pro, very, very pro-Bush.

00:48:40.000 It's understandable since we're conservative.

00:48:42.000 Does that mean they're pro-open border, pro-assault weapons ban, pro-campaign finance reform, pro-biggest growth in government ever recorded?

00:48:50.000 Is, is, is that what they're for?

00:48:52.000 No, I mean, I, I try to tell them stuff like that and what I always get is, Bush is a devout Christian.

00:48:59.000 And so, somehow that excuses everything else.

00:49:01.000 Well, let me see.

00:49:02.000 They admit he goes to Bohemian Grove.

00:49:04.000 Mainstream news.

00:49:05.000 I have video of the satanic rituals being conducted.

00:49:08.000 So they can't say, oh, skull and bones is when they're young.

00:49:10.000 They have video of skull and bones with throat-slitting Satan worship.

00:49:14.000 That's admitted.

00:49:14.000 Been on national television.

00:49:16.000 He prays at Shinto shrines.

00:49:18.000 Does all of this.

00:49:19.000 So, I don't know.

00:49:21.000 Right.

00:49:21.000 Well, I said something about skull and bones, and they just said, well, that was when he was young.

00:49:25.000 So I was going to ask you, I haven't watched Bohemian Grove.

00:49:29.000 Did you get any video of Bush or anybody around him?

00:49:33.000 You know, that's a question I get asked a lot.

00:49:35.000 Number one, my sister went to school with the Bush daughters. 0.95

00:49:40.000 Probably at school functions, you know, eight years ago, you know, where George Bush is there.

00:49:45.000 George Bush, and I've been sitting at the same table with him, George Bush Lived in Austin.

00:49:51.000 Admittedly told the press that he'd watch my TV show.

00:49:54.000 His wife told the local TV station that.

00:49:55.000 I mean, I have this in the newspaper.

00:49:58.000 So I didn't run up to Bush and say, please take your black hood off. 0.95

00:50:03.000 I'd like to talk to you, but we have hundreds of articles where they admit the Bushes go there.

00:50:09.000 They have their own annals where they go there.

00:50:11.000 I bought this rare book, and then another listener sent me another one.

00:50:15.000 The Annals of the Grove, published by them with Bush and his daddy there.

00:50:18.000 Colored photos, those are on the website.

00:50:22.000 But no, I didn't run up to the, you know, it'd be like Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut going, hi priest, I have a hidden camera right here, will you please take your hood off for me, please?

00:50:32.000 Does that answer your question?

00:50:34.000 Yes.

00:50:35.000 Okay.

00:50:36.000 Anything else?

00:50:37.000 Oh, no.

00:50:38.000 I'll be signing up for the Prison Planet as soon as I can.

00:50:42.000 I appreciate that.

00:50:43.000 God bless you.

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00:50:53.000 Alright, we'll be right back with more news, more calls.

00:50:56.000 Stay with us, we're just getting rolling.

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00:53:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:54:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:54:29.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Dale in Colorado.

00:54:31.000 Dale, go ahead.

00:54:33.000 Yeah, Mr. Jones, second time caller.

00:54:37.000 And I found an interesting article written in the American Legion concerning the Patriot Act.

00:54:43.000 Okay.

00:54:44.000 And it basically interviewed Terrorism expert Victoria Tonzing dispels myths surrounding the Patriot Act.

00:54:55.000 And let me guess, she says, these are tools we're already using against criminals, it doesn't affect citizens, it makes us more free, it's all lies to say it's bad, it's wonderful.

00:55:05.000 Yeah, I also got one little paragraph if I could read you real quick.

00:55:08.000 Sure, go ahead.

00:55:09.000 It's very interesting.

00:55:10.000 They ask her from the American Legion, they say, a number of American cities have passed Resolutions condemning the Patriot Act for violating civil rights.

00:55:21.000 Are these legitimate concerns?

00:55:23.000 Does the Act impinge on our civil liberties?

00:55:26.000 The answer is with, if the Patriot Act is violating civil rights, then it will go up in the usual process to the Supreme Court.

00:55:36.000 And it should.

00:55:36.000 A local authority such as a city or a state does not have the authority to say, we're not going to obey a federal law.

00:55:44.000 The concept is federal preemption in specific areas of law.

00:55:48.000 Federal law trumps local law.

00:55:50.000 That's just it.

00:55:51.000 The only thing that's... Pardon?

00:55:53.000 Let me comment on that.

00:55:54.000 If people want to read the Patriot Act 1 and 2, we have the actual bills posted at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com as well as PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:56:05.000 And on these sites, I also, section by section, wrote an analysis of it.

00:56:12.000 It allows the secret arrest of citizens, all misdemeanors or acts of terrorism.

00:56:17.000 And the Supreme Court, you know, the Supreme Court in the past said black people weren't human beings, so we don't have to follow what a court says if it's criminal.

00:56:25.000 And this new Supreme Court just threw out the Fifth Amendment two weeks ago.

00:56:29.000 The Fifth Circuit just threw out the Fourth Amendment. 0.99

00:56:32.000 It's horrible what they've been doing.

00:56:34.000 Justice Rehnquist, the Chief Justice, A couple years ago told a group of federal judges that they're no longer going to follow the Constitution in terror-related cases.

00:56:43.000 And so of course they're out there as part of a PR offensive.

00:56:46.000 Bush has been stumping all over the country saying, you better reaffirm the Patriot Act and strengthen it.

00:56:53.000 This makes you more free.

00:56:54.000 And if you don't, the terrorists are going to get you.

00:56:56.000 That's terrorism.

00:56:58.000 Do what I say or terrorists are going to get you.

00:57:00.000 Go ahead.

00:57:01.000 Yeah, I just thought it was strange that they're mentioning that the federal law trumps local law.

00:57:07.000 The only thing it trumps, that is, if the federal law is unconstitutional, that would be a civil rights violation.

00:57:07.000 That's just it.

00:57:14.000 And the person being aggrieved would have to take it up, not a local government.

00:57:19.000 Well, that's a fraud.

00:57:21.000 The cities and states can say no and can refuse to go along with unjust federal laws.

00:57:26.000 Thanks for the call.

00:57:27.000 And that goes back to the whole Tenth Amendment violation of the Civil War.

00:57:32.000 Before we end this hour, come back and go to all your calls.

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01:00:00.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:01.000 You want answers?

01:00:04.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:18.000 Alright my friends, we're already into hour number two on this April 22, 2004 Thursday edition.

01:00:28.000 Your phone calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

01:00:31.000 I've also got a bunch of really important police state news we're going to be getting into.

01:00:35.000 More on the Iraq situation, more on the 9-11 whitewash commission.

01:00:39.000 And at least once a week I like to have Paul Joseph Watson on the show, the webmaster for PrisonPlanet.com, author of Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror, and the New World Order to cover some of the news that he thinks is most important.

01:00:55.000 There's a whole host of it.

01:00:56.000 That's coming up in about 30 minutes.

01:00:57.000 You don't want to miss that.

01:00:59.000 We're also going to air A clip from another PBS documentary where somebody's talking about how it looked like a missile that hit one of the World Trade Centers.

01:01:10.000 Well, we have a video of the plane with some type of bizarre, what looks like a cruise missile pod, it's the only thing that resembles it.

01:01:18.000 On the bottom, firing something out of the building.

01:01:20.000 This is for mainstream television footage, and that's on the website as well.

01:01:26.000 But I really want to discuss the national draft.

01:01:29.000 I mean, I rarely talk about something two days in a row, but this is a big deal!

01:01:36.000 We've been called conspiracy theorists for two years for covering the twelve different pieces of legislation that have been introduced in the Congress, in the House and Senate.

01:01:46.000 Now, Two years ago, when they first introduced this stuff, and now it's a little over two years ago, when Congressman Rangel first introduced it, a Democrat, he used the same words that Senator Hagel used.

01:02:03.000 I mean, almost the same quotes.

01:02:06.000 So the Democrats introduced two bills, and the Republicans introduced two more bills, and now, and this is a few weeks ago, there may be more legislation introduced.

01:02:15.000 But we've been posting on the site on a weekly basis, there are twelve different pieces of legislation.

01:02:23.000 And the legislation getting promoted, two different versions of the Universal National Service Act, are 1826, 18-49, Men and Women, Domestic uh... groups domestic citizens having to serve here in the homeland so being government slaves basically and that some of you will be sent overseas it is unprecedented in american history is more of a soviet style you gotta volunteer compulsory volunteerism and and you know six seven years ago we would read americorps plans of bill clinton to make high school students serve twenty hours a week

01:03:01.000 To be able to graduate from high school, whether it's public or private, to work for the government and federal programs.

01:03:07.000 And then Bush tried to make it mandatory for cable guys and, you know, phone technicians and the Postal Service.

01:03:16.000 For the TIPS program, when that got exposed, they just changed the name.

01:03:20.000 So that's what all this is about.

01:03:21.000 This isn't just a draft.

01:03:23.000 This is, this is, this is, this is tattletale East German compulsory service of the government even here domestically.

01:03:33.000 It's unprecedented.

01:03:34.000 It's huge.

01:03:36.000 So I would like to get your response to this at 1-800-259-9231.

01:03:38.000 We're going to take your calls real fast.

01:03:43.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ethan in Kentucky.

01:03:46.000 Ethan, go ahead.

01:03:47.000 Jay Melissa?

01:03:49.000 That's laughable.

01:03:51.000 That's a...

01:03:52.000 Something out of a bad comedy movie.

01:03:55.000 Okay, for those that just joined us, they're passing laws in Pennsylvania.

01:03:59.000 Governor Swiker passed it a year ago, two years ago, a year and a half ago.

01:04:03.000 And now some of the groups, the so-called gay militia, raided a Christian meeting at a hotel.

01:04:13.000 The Christian meeting there talking about how to stop a bill that will ban basically reading out of the Old Testament criticizing homosexuality.

01:04:23.000 Well, yeah.

01:04:25.000 Hey, I tell you what.

01:04:26.000 Stay there.

01:04:27.000 I'll let you come back and talk about it.

01:04:28.000 I just had to bring folks up to speed about what you were mentioning because I covered that 20 minutes ago and we have new listeners joining us every millisecond, so stay there.

01:04:36.000 That's one thing I hate about talk radio.

01:04:38.000 I mean, you tune in and you don't even know what they're talking about, so I really try to always reintroduce a topic.

01:04:45.000 We'll come back, let you finish up, Ethan, and then we'll take other calls at 1-800-259-9231.

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01:08:07.000 on the gcn radio network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:18.000 I have seen multiple news reports in the mainstream media of states, counties, cities, western nations, arresting people for their political speech.

01:08:31.000 At first it was, oh, we're just going to arrest people that deny the Holocaust.

01:08:35.000 They're bad people, don't you agree?

01:08:37.000 Oh, yes, I disagree with them. 0.99

01:08:39.000 They're Nazis. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Let's arrest them. 1.00

01:08:40.000 And then, oh, we're just going to arrest or find the preachers that read the passages out of the Old Testament criticizing homosexuals. 0.99

01:08:49.000 Oh, yeah, you know, that's bigoted. 0.98

01:08:52.000 Let's do that.

01:08:53.000 And then, oh, we're just going to arrest these anti-war demonstrators who are peaceful because they're in a, you know, there's free speech zones two miles away from the president and they can go to this deserted public park and protest but no media is allowed to go cover them.

01:09:08.000 Okay, I'm a conservative.

01:09:09.000 I don't like those liberals.

01:09:11.000 And I see the articles were in Idaho. 0.98

01:09:14.000 There's a black referee at the end of a football game.

01:09:17.000 The woman from the local newspaper takes a photo of him. 0.99

01:09:19.000 He throws a fit because not referee, black coach. 0.95

01:09:22.000 They lost the game. 0.99

01:09:24.000 He starts choking her, screaming profanities at her. 0.97

01:09:26.000 You know, you white this, you white that. 0.97

01:09:29.000 Her husband jumps out of the bleachers.

01:09:31.000 Pushes him, or actually the black man pushed him, he pushed back, they called each other racial names, and the white man was arrested.

01:09:39.000 This was in the Associated Press.

01:09:41.000 I mean, I see this all the time.

01:09:43.000 They were both wrong for calling each other names, but it's their right to do it. 0.68

01:09:47.000 But the black guy's allowed to, and the white guy isn't. 0.64

01:09:51.000 You see, it's all going to be selectively enforced, too. 0.96

01:09:55.000 And so the caller, Gay Malicious Storms Christian Meeting, up in Canada, where they're about to ban criticizing homosexuality.

01:10:02.000 And regardless of what you think of homosexuality, don't you believe in the First Amendment?

01:10:08.000 So let's go ahead and go back to Ethan in Kentucky.

01:10:12.000 Ethan, go ahead and make your comments.

01:10:14.000 Yeah, I'll just get this.

01:10:15.000 I went to the grocery market the other day, Kroger's, and I asked the guy working in the produce department why they didn't have any organic food, and he said, We're not allowed to label what's organic and isn't hippie, so beat it before I call the cops.

01:10:29.000 You're joking.

01:10:30.000 No.

01:10:31.000 And I was like, call the cops for what?

01:10:32.000 Caring about what?

01:10:33.000 Putting it on poison and destroying myself for not wasting Wanna ingest some Monsanto Frankenfood?

01:10:40.000 That's what makes me a hippie thaw criminal?

01:10:41.000 Well, I wanna be... Folks, I'm not... You know, I believe you.

01:10:45.000 Because... Because everywhere now, you'll go into the driver's license office in Texas, and I've talked to 50 people.

01:10:51.000 I mean, it's more than that in the last year, who go in, who've seen my TV show or film, where I protest it and point out it's part of a federal ID card.

01:10:59.000 And they will have the cops come out and start threatening to arrest you, or they will arrest you if you just ask questions.

01:11:06.000 They have a jail cell, because I've been in it when I went and protested.

01:11:09.000 They arrested me a couple years ago.

01:11:11.000 They have a jail cell, and they take you in it and question you.

01:11:13.000 Are you a terrorist?

01:11:15.000 Who told you this thumb scanner's bad?

01:11:17.000 You're not part of any terror group, are you?

01:11:20.000 And so yeah, and then this guy, I guarantee you, you go back and you ask that produce guy, do you listen to Michael Savage?

01:11:27.000 No, he'll say yes, because all over the country, in his hot show, put anybody that disagrees with the government in a forced labor camp, this idea is permeating.

01:11:36.000 They're arresting people at protests, conservative liberals, they're arresting people that hand out, you know, videos.

01:11:42.000 I mean, it's getting bad, sir.

01:11:45.000 And again, for tyranny to work, the rank and file have to believe in this, have to think that arresting people...

01:11:54.000 I've done over 1,500 radio interviews in the last, uh, coming up on three years.

01:12:01.000 Over 1,500.

01:12:03.000 And we'll take on average, I've sat there, you know how when you're, you know, counting something up, you'll do four little stick men, one, two, three, four, and then five as a slash through it?

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:14.000 I will sit there going one caller, two caller, three caller, four caller, five caller, six caller, seven caller, eight caller, nine caller, ten caller, while I'm on a show, let's say two hours, let's say KOA.

01:12:24.000 Or while I'm on KF5 for two hours in some big 50,000 water.

01:12:28.000 That's the shows I'll do this on.

01:12:29.000 And I'll sit there, you know, we take a lot of calls.

01:12:31.000 Bam, bam, bam.

01:12:32.000 One after the other.

01:12:33.000 And on average, one out of 30 will disagree.

01:12:37.000 And guess what they almost always say when they disagree?

01:12:41.000 Well, they say, I'm glad there's camps. 0.91

01:12:44.000 I want to put you in it, you hippie, you communist.

01:12:48.000 Bush has got to have some gun control! 0.99

01:12:50.000 You know, I'd like to beat you up! 1.00

01:12:51.000 I hope somebody kills you, Mr. Jones! 1.00

01:12:54.000 That's almost always what they say, or, or, you ought to leave this country! 1.00

01:12:59.000 You ought to be arrested!

01:13:00.000 Criticize the North Korean war! 0.99

01:13:02.000 And I say, well, uh, actually, I'm, I'm the real, now, now, if it's a liberal show, the one caller will call up, and the liberal will call me a fascist Nazi pig! 0.98

01:13:14.000 And they'll just say, you shouldn't be allowed to be on this show. 0.98

01:13:17.000 I'm gonna complain. 0.99

01:13:20.000 But the liberal will call me a Nazi, the conservative will call me a communist, but the conservative will threaten to kill me usually, or say, I want to get you in a jail cell and do horrible things to you. 0.99

01:13:34.000 And I go, oh, you're a jail guard. 0.67

01:13:35.000 Usually, not usually, probably 10% of the time, a lot of calls, it's a jail guard.

01:13:40.000 They seem to be the type that thinks you're not allowed to... I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:13:45.000 They control everything.

01:13:46.000 They control the food supply.

01:13:47.000 When you control the food supply, you control the population.

01:13:49.000 Like Monsanto, the guy Perry Schmeisser, if you heard... Yeah, I've heard of him two years ago.

01:13:56.000 Their transgenic pollution went on his property, and he was the one who got support.

01:14:02.000 Absolutely.

01:14:03.000 Thanks for the call.

01:14:04.000 Just briefly on that, I've had, I don't know, probably 20 farmers on from North Dakota, South Texas, Canada, England, Anyone fighting all this, but Percy Schmeiser had the receipts.

01:14:19.000 He never bought Monsanto seeds.

01:14:22.000 He kept his own seeds.

01:14:23.000 He bought them from a local seed bank.

01:14:25.000 He was an organic farmer and they caught, this has even been in National Geographic of all places, they even caught Um, former Mounties. 0.64

01:14:34.000 They hire former Mounties. 0.87

01:14:35.000 Here it's former FBI.

01:14:36.000 Monsanto hires them.

01:14:38.000 They walk along the ditches by your property throwing, they drive by in cars, throwing out the seeds.

01:14:43.000 Whether it's canola, soybeans, whatever.

01:14:46.000 Then that grows up, then the pollen blows onto your crops, they then trespass a year later, pull about 50 plants, and then they find any of their genetics, because plants aren't like mammals where, you know, it's the mommy and the daddy and that's it.

01:15:01.000 Your mommy and your daddy's genetics go into you and that's it.

01:15:04.000 All the genetics they have, going back in those lines, come into you.

01:15:08.000 With plants, the pollen all splatters on the On the seed bearing area of the plant when it's pollinated.

01:15:17.000 And that plant might have the pollen from a hundred different plants in it.

01:15:22.000 Different strains, different varieties.

01:15:24.000 Sometimes that's why naturally you'll have mutations where you'll see a part of another plant growing out of another plant.

01:15:30.000 That happens naturally.

01:15:32.000 Plants are very easy to manipulate because of that.

01:15:34.000 So they'll find just a little bit of their genetics in your plant.

01:15:37.000 It's not even a Monsanto plant.

01:15:38.000 But if it has 1% This is the federal rulings here in Canada.

01:15:43.000 As 1% they rule, and the courts rule, that you have stolen their genetics. 0.82

01:15:49.000 Now you got receipts that you bought seeds, that you didn't use Monsanto.

01:15:53.000 They trespass.

01:15:54.000 They do this to you.

01:15:56.000 They'll move in in a growth belt of a certain type of plant.

01:15:59.000 They will buy their own land.

01:16:01.000 Little experimental plots in between your land.

01:16:05.000 They'll infest everything, then sue them, then take their property. 0.92

01:16:08.000 And you're absolutely right.

01:16:09.000 It is bio-warfare.

01:16:12.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

01:16:15.000 Who's up next there?

01:16:17.000 Carol in Texas.

01:16:18.000 Carol, go ahead.

01:16:19.000 Hi, Alex.

01:16:21.000 I wanted to find out when you had that General... I can't even say his name right.

01:16:27.000 Gromsam III?

01:16:29.000 Colonel Don DeGrampre.

01:16:31.000 Right.

01:16:32.000 When did you have him on your show?

01:16:35.000 It's posted in the audio section of PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:16:39.000 It was about a month and a half ago.

01:16:42.000 Was it?

01:16:43.000 Well, I wanted to get a tape of it.

01:16:45.000 I thought it was so interesting.

01:16:47.000 And then I was going to tell you I've got about four or five drones watching me at night when I'm at home in Louisville.

01:16:56.000 And there was a helicopter out there outside the house.

01:17:01.000 Without four or five men in it.

01:17:03.000 Now did it fly over?

01:17:05.000 Or how long did it sit there?

01:17:07.000 The helicopter?

01:17:08.000 Yes.

01:17:10.000 It didn't stay there very long.

01:17:12.000 After I walked outside and saw it, it moved off.

01:17:16.000 But do you know it was so silent you couldn't even hear it.

01:17:19.000 And then there was about four or five drones in a half circle.

01:17:23.000 Okay, where do you live?

01:17:25.000 I live in Louisville, Texas.

01:17:27.000 Where is that?

01:17:29.000 It's not too far from Dallas.

01:17:33.000 Yeah.

01:17:35.000 They admit that they're using drones now for narcotics interdiction.

01:17:38.000 They admit they're using helicopters.

01:17:41.000 Seven years ago, part of a DARPA plan, almost every major city in the country had ground penetrating radar mounted on the helicopters.

01:17:49.000 Now this isn't infrared that just sees grow lights through your ceiling.

01:17:54.000 This looks right through the walls, gives them a black and white image of your house.

01:17:58.000 Everything you're doing, it's like an x-ray vision.

01:18:01.000 Now, the classified stuff, because I've talked to SEALs and others, and it's even been mentioned by Jane's Weapons publication, the classified stuff, they got rifle scopes that'll look through your skin and will see your beating heart in color 3D, but that's not the stuff they're putting on helicopters.

01:18:19.000 It's just black and white ground-portraying radar.

01:18:22.000 It's a similar system they use at the airports, you know, to look through your clothes, set on low.

01:18:27.000 And yeah, would you say the helicopter was there two minutes?

01:18:30.000 I mean, was it hovering over your house?

01:18:33.000 It was not hovering over the house.

01:18:35.000 It was... I could see it real plain, you know.

01:18:42.000 How close was it?

01:18:45.000 In my house?

01:18:46.000 Well, I have a swimming pool.

01:18:48.000 It was on the other side of my swimming pool.

01:18:50.000 Was it flying around?

01:18:50.000 Okay.

01:18:51.000 No, no.

01:18:53.000 Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

01:18:54.000 Let me just ask you a question here, okay?

01:18:56.000 Do you have woods around your property?

01:18:59.000 No, this is just a residential area.

01:19:03.000 And so it just descended, you know, and it just sat there for a little bit and then it moved off.

01:19:03.000 Okay.

01:19:08.000 Well, I wanted to just kind of educate people on this.

01:19:11.000 They may have been looking for a missing person.

01:19:14.000 Someone may have been hiding, you know, somebody who'd robbed a house.

01:19:18.000 That's legitimate use.

01:19:19.000 Did it have a spotlight on?

01:19:24.000 I didn't notice it.

01:19:26.000 Oh, you noticed that they did.

01:19:28.000 Then they weren't after you.

01:19:30.000 If it hovers over your house, it's recording what's inside your house.

01:19:33.000 And they admittedly do this.

01:19:35.000 But if it was just flying around and left, it was probably looking for somebody.

01:19:40.000 Well, and you know, I work in Richardson.

01:19:42.000 They have those same drones over here checking out this area.

01:19:46.000 Wow.

01:19:47.000 Okay, well thanks for the call.

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01:24:11.000 That happens when I'm looking at the clock and I've been long-winded and I've got loaded phone lines and I want to go to the calls and somebody's making a good point but I'm trying to get information from them so I can understand what the big picture is.

01:24:23.000 Because I've studied police activities, military activities with helicopters My cousin, who's in Special Forces, has been out of the country for 18 years, some of the time just at Fort Bragg.

01:24:36.000 And that's his job, is merging the Army with the local police here in Austin, along with the National Guard, and providing surveillance with Army helicopters.

01:24:45.000 But if it's just flying around the neighborhood quickly, it's not scanning.

01:24:49.000 But if they're flying slow and low over the neighborhoods, they're scanning.

01:24:55.000 They're flying around with a spotlight on.

01:24:57.000 They're looking for somebody.

01:24:58.000 Of course, they don't even need the spotlight.

01:24:59.000 Infrared's even better.

01:25:01.000 A spotlight so the police on the ground can see where the person's at.

01:25:04.000 That's more of an indicator for police.

01:25:07.000 But if you just see drones flying around, which they now admit they've got.

01:25:09.000 They've had them for years.

01:25:10.000 Now they admit them.

01:25:12.000 They are scanning with ground penetrating radar infrared.

01:25:16.000 So I hope that answers your question, Carol, and it's an important question.

01:25:19.000 But just because a helicopter flies over you, I mean, last night the police helicopters were flying around my neighborhood and they were probably looking for a fugitive.

01:25:27.000 Let's go ahead and go to another call here.

01:25:31.000 Let's talk to Nick in Texas.

01:25:33.000 Yes, sir.

01:25:33.000 Nick, go ahead.

01:25:34.000 I was calling just a quick couple comments.

01:25:37.000 The first one on the bills that were introduced for the draft.

01:25:40.000 My girlfriend's made it a hobby to email the representatives and senators from Texas here. 0.84

01:25:45.000 And they usually respond to our emails within a week.

01:25:47.000 And close to a month ago, she emailed them about these bills and put the bill numbers for reference and she has yet to hear from them.

01:25:55.000 So I think that's sort of telling.

01:25:58.000 Yeah, they don't want to be on the record.

01:26:00.000 They want to wait until their bosses blow something up so they can then go, we gotta do it to protect the homeland!

01:26:06.000 I'm glad you called about the draft.

01:26:07.000 This is a big deal.

01:26:09.000 And this new draft they've got is 18 to 49.

01:26:12.000 You'll have to serve domestically.

01:26:14.000 Isn't that scary?

01:26:15.000 It's very scary.

01:26:16.000 And I've read where college deferments will no longer be valid.

01:26:20.000 And of course, they've already coordinated with Canada to not let the hippies escape up north. 0.58

01:26:25.000 No, they're planning well ahead, so it's not a repeat of the 70s apparently.

01:26:31.000 And it's not just the enemy you've got to worry about, it's the depleted uranium, it's the deadly vaccines, if you get injured, the VA is just a nightmare.

01:26:40.000 And my parents live in Missouri, they're both Bush backers, and I've made it my mission to educate them.

01:26:47.000 And I've even brought up the draft, and they laugh at it because they think I'm hysterical, and they haven't read it.

01:26:54.000 There's 12 different bills, they're openly trying to pass them right now, and yesterday I went to the gym, and I was talking to all these good ol' boys, they're like, Alex, they're not going to do that.

01:27:05.000 Now that's a rumor, now you're making that up, and I'm sitting here with the Associated Press, with the Senate promoting it, saying we need it.

01:27:12.000 Right, absolutely.

01:27:13.000 Look, look, look, it's a nation of denial.

01:27:16.000 We're a nation of spectators that don't want to face responsibility, and they'll just keep denying it.

01:27:22.000 I will tell you one thing.

01:27:24.000 It seems that right after 9-11, there was all this fear.

01:27:27.000 I work in radio as well, and nobody could quite believe some of the things that I was asserting, that I was getting from your show and your website.

01:27:33.000 But two and a half years later, all of a sudden, they're starting to see that things aren't like it was on September 12th, that there was a lot of lies out there, that there are a lot of stories that just disappeared, such as the short sells or the put option on the stock exchange.

01:27:52.000 And that raises red flags to them that something's not quite right.

01:27:55.000 Well, that's what's happened.

01:27:56.000 And again, I'm just one person in this fight on the front lines, but I've been on most of these stations as a guest.

01:28:02.000 I mean, when you've done 1500, you've been on most shows.

01:28:04.000 And they laughed at me two years ago.

01:28:06.000 They don't laugh now.

01:28:07.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:28:08.000 And even locally here in Austin, I know of one radio show that you've been on that they used to deride you.

01:28:16.000 In particular, they're a morning show, and now they have you on because once the FCC targets them, then holy moly.

01:28:23.000 The government's bad, and Alex was right.

01:28:24.000 That's it.

01:28:26.000 The enemy's our best recruiter.

01:28:28.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:29.000 Good to hear from you, Nick.

01:28:30.000 Frank in West Virginia.

01:28:31.000 Frank, go ahead.

01:28:32.000 Hello, Alex.

01:28:34.000 I just wanted to read a little, a short statement from our paper here in West Virginia.

01:28:39.000 It's called the Dominion Post.

01:28:41.000 Saturday, dated April 10th.

01:28:44.000 Marines to raid Morgan 10 in the near future.

01:28:49.000 About 1,800 Marines and Sailors will flood the streets of Morgantown the first three weeks of May for urban combat drills.

01:28:54.000 Notice, by the way, Morgantown is a very small city.

01:28:58.000 Now when they do urban warfare, they actually make arrests in many of the drills and really run law enforcement ops.

01:29:04.000 Well, I was going to ask you about that.

01:29:06.000 I don't know what happened until we did the drill, but in Swansboro and other areas, they're actually really arresting people now.

01:29:14.000 Was that for observation going in with video?

01:29:18.000 Being too close to the practice?

01:29:20.000 Uh, no.

01:29:21.000 Uh, they, quote, assist police and stand there with their M16s while the police search your car and then they come over and help them.

01:29:30.000 I'd like to get your take on what type of points should be brought down to the general public.

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01:29:36.000 It's very important.

01:29:37.000 I made two films on this.

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01:33:05.000 Alright, Frank, William, Warren, Gene, Michael, everybody, we're gonna go to your calls in this hour.

01:33:11.000 Stay with us.

01:33:12.000 We're about to get into some of the news that Paul Watson thinks is most important.

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01:33:17.000 And then make some very important announcements here on air.

01:33:19.000 But first, Frank in West Virginia.

01:33:22.000 In my first video, Police State 2000 made in 99, We show Marine Corps urban warfare training in Hebron, Maryland, Oakland, California, Army Delta Force training with foreign troops, terrorizing the public with no warning, blowing buildings up.

01:33:39.000 Yes, I've seen that, and I've gotten those tapes out.

01:33:41.000 One, two, and I've seen three.

01:33:43.000 Well, my point is, just for the listeners, I'm giving them some background, and I said in the film, they're going to engage in terror, the government is, they're going to say we're getting rid of posse comitatus, they're going to put troops on the streets, this is all part of conditioning, And I didn't pull that out of a hat.

01:33:57.000 I'm not magical with a crystal ball.

01:33:59.000 The Army War College was saying this was to condition us to accept military occupation, and then they tell the public when they're doing it, oh, this is just for training overseas.

01:34:09.000 Well, obviously, it's joint training.

01:34:10.000 So that's not even really a lie, because some of the training is for overseas.

01:34:13.000 Now, now they've rationed it up.

01:34:16.000 They've done it in almost every study in the U.S.

01:34:18.000 They use the Marines mainly, because that didn't violate posse comitatus.

01:34:22.000 According to the loophole, it's still a violation.

01:34:26.000 And yeah, all over the country this is happening, and I don't know what they'll do in your town.

01:34:30.000 They don't say until they get there.

01:34:31.000 Are they warning the public to be calm?

01:34:34.000 That this is just a drill?

01:34:36.000 This is the only article I've seen on it since April 10th.

01:34:40.000 Now, I've talked to the police, I've talked to the county sheriff's office, and a deputy there, he hasn't heard a thing about it.

01:34:47.000 The Fairmont is another town in which they'll be doing this, and the police there haven't heard anything about it.

01:34:53.000 And also... Oh wait, they're doing it in multiple towns?

01:34:57.000 Yes, sir.

01:34:57.000 In the area.

01:34:58.000 Within roughly a 45-mile radius.

01:35:03.000 How long until they say this is going to happen?

01:35:05.000 This is going to happen the first three weeks in May.

01:35:07.000 They say that they will notify the residents and... Okay, okay.

01:35:12.000 Now just from past experience, because there's been hundreds of these drills, I've been to, I don't know, about 15 of them.

01:35:19.000 But from the news articles, if it's a three-week drill, they're going to show up first, walk around, have some ceremony with a flag, hand out some prizes to children, give the mayor's awards, do a recruiting drive, have an Orange Humvee drive around playing rap music, trying to recruit young people.

01:35:39.000 That'll be the first three days.

01:35:41.000 Okay.

01:35:41.000 Then they'll be walking around in the neighborhoods at night.

01:35:44.000 Then they'll probably covertly leased an old building.

01:35:47.000 They'll probably set it on fire. 0.98

01:35:51.000 May even blow up some cars downtown. 0.80

01:35:54.000 And then cordon it off.

01:35:55.000 Not warn people until they do it.

01:35:57.000 I videoed this in the Rugged Tournament by the way.

01:35:59.000 Uh, and, uh, then the last week, there'll be checkpoints on the highways in between the towns, and when the police walk up, there'll be Marines with M-16s behind them, and they'll say, we're gonna search the car, and, uh, now that's what's happened.

01:36:13.000 If it's a two-day drill, not generally, but the longer drills are usually the bad ones.

01:36:18.000 Okay.

01:36:18.000 Go ahead.

01:36:19.000 The, even at the emergency, uh, they call it MECA, it's the 9-1-1, uh, The coordinator, the head of that, has not even heard a thing about this, which is hard to believe.

01:36:30.000 This is something that's hidden in plain view right now.

01:36:33.000 However, they are saying that the Marine Expeditionary Unit, which is special forces comparable to the Navy SEALs in the air.

01:36:41.000 Yes, it's Force Recon.

01:36:43.000 Yes, they will be doing this.

01:36:46.000 There will be groups of 150 to 200 members going out Uh, on the streets, they'll raid the abandoned buildings, they'll have live and... Oh, so it does say that?

01:36:56.000 It does say live fire.

01:36:57.000 Okay, I was just told to read the article.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, you're gonna get the full treatment, probably.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, but they do try to alleviate the, uh, they say, well, there'll be a select few Marines who will have real bullets in their guns.

01:37:07.000 And then it says, well, they'll be shooting in the traps, and it'll be kind of like a catcher's mitt, catching a baseball.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, just like when they shot into the all-night restaurant in Miami in 98, when they crashed a helicopter in downtown Houston in 99, when they tried to rob the police chief in 99 in San Antonio.

01:37:23.000 Boy, if they're admitting live fire, you're going to have smoking buildings, blowing up cars.

01:37:30.000 You're in for the full treatment.

01:37:31.000 Well, I started a group here.

01:37:32.000 We're going to have concerned citizens.

01:37:35.000 In fact, we're just going to start having a meeting next week.

01:37:38.000 I've got to get this advertised.

01:37:40.000 I'd be quiet about it.

01:37:40.000 I'd say you just want to have a political rally at some park, and I'd stage it for one of the towns they're going to be in.

01:37:48.000 And then, when you have a big screen TV, show the video and tell the people this is for mass conditioning.

01:37:55.000 Okay.

01:37:56.000 Hey, listen, email me that article, okay?

01:37:58.000 Yes, sir.

01:37:59.000 tipsidy at InfoWars.com.

01:37:59.000 I certainly will.

01:38:02.000 Okay, I'll do that.

01:38:02.000 Thank you very much, sir.

01:38:03.000 I appreciate it.

01:38:04.000 Thank you.

01:38:04.000 And they're doing it all over the country.

01:38:06.000 It's not for, quote, training.

01:38:07.000 It's for conditioning you.

01:38:09.000 It is training for you.

01:38:10.000 Alright, thanks for holding up.

01:38:11.000 Paul Watson, my good buddy, webmaster at PrisonPlanet.com, and now PrisonPlanet.tv.

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01:38:22.000 Paul, what's some of the big news today?

01:38:24.000 Well, we're going to talk about Tony Blair sacrificing Britain to federal, well European federalism basically, the British police state, the ID card situation, the escalation of bombings in Iraq and how that links back to the draft which is again being talked about, the activities of the neocons and of course September 11th which we posted a lot of information on recently.

01:38:53.000 But before we do that, the next three or four minutes, we are launching something new, Paul.

01:38:59.000 Tell them about PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:39:02.000 Yeah, we've just launched it today, publicly.

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01:39:12.000 We actually had members signing up before we publicly launched it.

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01:39:47.000 And just to take that, you know, a year's subscription, just imagine a conservative estimate of what will be on there over the course of the next year is, you know, touching on the thousands of special reports, videos, audios that will be posted.

01:40:03.000 Now, I mean, this is not to say that we won't still have a lot of free content.

01:40:06.000 Obviously we will, but the fact is that this website is going to be the main focus.

01:40:11.000 All the news will be posted there before you see it anywhere else.

01:40:16.000 As most people don't know, I do multiple updates daily on all the sites.

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01:41:06.000 about two months ago we have talked about doing subscription i said no i'll just

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01:41:42.000 Yeah, that's the point.

01:41:45.000 We have to emphasize that whenever, you know, for example with the World Trade Center 7 analysis that we put up in January, the night we put that up, when Alex was on Rents, I was on Rents' show with Alex, I made the mistake of hosting most of that video on my own server.

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01:42:42.000 So please, go to PrisonPlanet.tv and there's already a bunch of special reports, a report I did two nights ago on television, an hour report, where I go over to the NORAD stand down and The new whitewash about the Pentagon drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings.

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01:44:07.000 paul before you get back in the news any other uh...

01:44:10.000 thanks for the talk about concerning this and now just to say that

01:44:15.000 and basically to bookmark it Even if you don't sign up for a membership, bookmark it anyway and check it every day because all the news and information as well as, you know, some different stories which may not get posted on the other websites will be on there and will be on there first.

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01:44:36.000 Now, right now, what is there, about 20 free video clips on the main page right now?

01:44:42.000 A bunch of audio, a bunch of different special reports.

01:44:44.000 So that's all still going to be there.

01:44:46.000 It's just that if you want these big special reports, you know, the longer pieces of video, it's going to be in the members area.

01:44:52.000 Well, that's correct, and most of the audio interviews from Alex's show will be on there.

01:44:58.000 We will still keep some free, obviously the more important ones that we need to spread about the internet, but for the privileged access and for absolutely everything, and it will be multiple new items added daily, then that's why people should sign up.

01:45:14.000 And then weekly, the big...

01:45:16.000 A 52 hour long TV show, because sometimes I air a videotape or something on the show and I don't do 50 minutes live or 60 minutes live.

01:45:24.000 Okay, the calls are coming up in just a moment, but Paul, this big national draft move, I mean we've been posting the articles for years, it's official, now the Senator's saying we gotta pass the draft, and people are still in denial.

01:45:39.000 Have you seen this?

01:45:40.000 I've seen it, yeah.

01:45:42.000 And obviously we had Hagel calling for it the other day.

01:45:46.000 We've had even people like Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich warning that if Bush is re-elected, and I mean they'll go ahead and do this with Kerry anyway, maybe even to a greater extent, but that this will be enacted and that the current plan for it is to be enacted in 2005.

01:46:03.000 And, you know, with a potential war against North Korea coming up as Cheney sells the nukes to China, which are passed on to North Korea, Um, maybe that war coming up in 2006 or 2007 as the public plans have already been released by Rumsfeld, we're talking about the need for in the region of 600,000 extra US troops.

01:46:23.000 So we ask where are they going to get those from?

01:46:26.000 And as you mentioned, the bills themselves Talk about service to the homeland.

01:46:32.000 And this is interesting that at the same time we have multiple forms of mandatory volunteerism being proposed and passed down to, you know, high school level in New Jersey.

01:46:44.000 They just announced that to graduate from high school you will need to do a compulsory service under this new bill just to graduate.

01:46:54.000 So this whole move to mandatory volunteerism, which is a complete obviously an oxymoron, is being pushed in all sectors of society.

01:47:02.000 But with the draft itself, we need to link it into Iraq.

01:47:06.000 And this is why we have all this quagmire, all this New Vietnam talk, because they want to keep the chaos ongoing in not just Iraq, but the entire region. 0.89

01:47:15.000 And by the way, we didn't just say this.

01:47:19.000 We were interviewed by Vanity Fair, what, four months ago?

01:47:22.000 They finally published it in the May issue and it says, Watson and Jones say that this was all set up to be a quagmire.

01:47:29.000 They've been saying that for years.

01:47:31.000 That's been the plan.

01:47:33.000 Well yeah, that article was probably written, what, late January, February, before it was the kind of quagmire that it's escalated to now.

01:47:42.000 And I mean, they were laughing at us in that, but now it's proven the case.

01:47:46.000 And with the bombings that are going on, we had another... Oh, by the way, even the London Guardian two weeks ago had an article where they're saying all this is by design.

01:47:54.000 Go ahead.

01:47:56.000 Yeah, that was a major article in the Guardian.

01:47:58.000 And the bombing yesterday in Basra again highlights what we've been talking about for months, that these so-called car bombings in Iraq are nothing of the kind.

01:48:07.000 Most of them. 0.98

01:48:08.000 Now, we're not saying that there aren't some You know, useful idiots running around carrying out some of these smaller-scale bombings. 0.98

01:48:14.000 But you find again and again, with most of the larger-scale bombings, there are multiple eyewitness reports of missile attacks. 0.97

01:48:22.000 And the AFP stated yesterday, Basra Police Chief General Mohammed Kadeem said, missiles fell on three police stations after a series of three successive explosions which shook the city.

01:48:37.000 And again, another eyewitness, Mohammed Haseem, an Iraqi police officer, told BBC Television, quote, I was on duty, the British came, and I opened the gate for them.

01:48:47.000 Once the British were inside and the post was open, a missile hit the main doors.

01:48:52.000 I started to run, I ran away, and so did the British. 1.00

01:48:55.000 And witnesses have seen Apaches doing this, and people ask, why would the globalists do that?

01:49:00.000 Why would they want this?

01:49:02.000 Well, because on one level, it It delays the June 30th handover.

01:49:07.000 Now, nobody, well, we didn't think that this June 30th handover would be any kind of sovereign handover because they won't even say, and Bush covered this in his awful speech the other week, Bush wouldn't even, you know, outline who they would be handing the power over to.

01:49:24.000 He just called it an entity.

01:49:27.000 But even with that, these bombings are a pretext for the UN to go in and take control.

01:49:32.000 That's what we've been saying for months and months.

01:49:34.000 But again, to justify the call for a national draft, which was reiterated again by Chuck Hagel yesterday, that playing up all this talk of Quagmire... I would say that Hagel understands the Hegelian dialectic.

01:49:51.000 Well, yeah, it's order out of chaos, and even Bush has given speeches where he slipped up and said, you know, we will maintain the chaos in Iraq. 0.66

01:49:59.000 So, I mean, that's exactly what's been going on.

01:50:01.000 We're going to find the weapons of mass destruction, too.

01:50:04.000 Oh yeah, well you can probably guarantee they're going to find them because, as we reported last week, all this aggravation in Iraq is a useful smokescreen with reports of these weapons being shipped in into the southern and western areas of the country. 0.78

01:50:21.000 So Bush was pretty adamant in the speech that they would find the weapons.

01:50:26.000 And I'm sure they've got a little surprise maybe before the election where they miraculously do come across those weapons.

01:50:34.000 And also a guy with a turban and a long beard.

01:50:37.000 Well, yeah.

01:50:38.000 They may back off of that, though, because we exposed it.

01:50:42.000 Alright, Paul, stay there.

01:50:43.000 We're going to come back and we'll go straight to William and many others that are patiently holding.

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01:53:48.000 Alright, wide open phones and a bunch of other news for the balance of the broadcast.

01:54:03.000 We've got about an hour and five minutes left.

01:54:06.000 Third hour coming up.

01:54:08.000 Paul Watson riding shotgun with us.

01:54:09.000 I'm Alex Jones.

01:54:11.000 Let's go ahead and talk to William in Florida.

01:54:14.000 William, go ahead.

01:54:16.000 Hey Alex, thanks for taking the call.

01:54:17.000 Thank you.

01:54:19.000 Got the videos, trying to get the word out.

01:54:20.000 I do not have a computer, so I have a question which I hope is not redundant.

01:54:26.000 A little while back, you thought that we were going to have an incident here after the election.

01:54:31.000 I just wondered if you've changed your thinking, if it's going to happen before the election, And then what will happen?

01:54:37.000 Will it be martial law then, or is it going to be in stages, or what?

01:54:41.000 Thank you.

01:54:43.000 Again, I don't have a crystal ball.

01:54:46.000 Sometimes I get enough indicators to be able to specifically say with precision what's going to happen, but after the election you can almost be assured of huge attacks and the draft.

01:54:57.000 I think before the election you may see some small attacks, and it's not small for those that are going to die by the military-industrial complex.

01:55:04.000 Paul?

01:55:06.000 Well, yeah, it all depends on the time span.

01:55:08.000 I mean, we've backed them off so many times that their agenda's slowing down every day from what it was before 9-11.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, they plan to already be in Syria and Iran this year.

01:55:18.000 Well, yeah, it depends, really, whether they want to put Bush or Kerry in to be, you know, the skull and bones CEO, because if they want to put Bush in, if they want to keep Bush in, then if there is no attack before the election, then the polls will probably build as to where You know, aside from vote fraud manipulation, Kerry will probably be in if there is no attack which rallies the population around Bush.

01:55:42.000 If they want Bush in for another four years, then expect another probably medium-scale attack before the election.

01:55:49.000 But there's always an October surprise.

01:55:51.000 Whether it be an attack, a discovery of WMD, capture of Bin Laden, they always pull a surprise a month or so before the election.

01:56:00.000 So they're bound to do something, but it may not be as large-scale as was originally intended.

01:56:06.000 All right, let's go ahead.

01:56:08.000 And, I mean, Rice is saying attack before the election.

01:56:12.000 We better just give up all our freedoms and support the Patriot Act, or it's all our fault.

01:56:17.000 Wayne in Nebraska.

01:56:18.000 Wayne, go ahead.

01:56:20.000 Alex?

01:56:20.000 Yes, sir?

01:56:22.000 I've got a question for you.

01:56:23.000 I keep getting calls from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on surveys.

01:56:28.000 I will not talk to them and I won't give them out any information.

01:56:31.000 I just wondered, do you know anything about that?

01:56:34.000 Well, they're running TV ads and radio ads around the country saying, please come get the smallpox shot.

01:56:39.000 Please do it.

01:56:40.000 They couldn't make the police and firefighters take it.

01:56:43.000 99% refused.

01:56:44.000 Well, more than 99.

01:56:45.000 It was almost 100%.

01:56:47.000 uh... it was a you know very small percentile that's that that did take it

01:56:51.000 remember they were going to make us take it out of their enforcers took it

01:56:54.000 so they're just trying to creep around and study and get data on us

01:56:58.000 so uh... if i don't answer their questions so i go down to guantanamo bay

01:57:02.000 then well the supreme court ruled three weeks ago that you have

01:57:06.000 to answer their You have to show an ID card on your own property.

01:57:10.000 It's a violation of the Fifth Amendment, but I mean, I would say that they can't make us all answer questions.

01:57:14.000 They can't put us all in Guantanamo or in a whack-and-hunt private prison.

01:57:18.000 You don't have to answer any of their questions.

01:57:20.000 Somebody calls you up and wants you to answer questions.

01:57:22.000 Well, I don't.

01:57:23.000 I feel that's my privacy.

01:57:24.000 And I guess I have another question.

01:57:28.000 It concerns Waco.

01:57:31.000 You talked a lot about it.

01:57:32.000 I've never heard you ever say anything about it, but didn't they use chemicals in Waco that you can't even use against the prisoners of war?

01:57:40.000 Yeah, they used a banned type of gas, VX gas, that is banned against using against foreign armies because it can kill you.

01:57:53.000 What's the nerve gas?

01:57:54.000 It's not the type that kills you.

01:57:55.000 It's not VX.

01:57:58.000 I mean, I could tell you this a hundred times, but if you weren't asking, it's CS, CS, not VX.

01:58:04.000 CS.

01:58:05.000 VX kills you instantly.

01:58:06.000 They use CS gas, a banned type of tear gas that we're not allowed to use against foreign countries.

01:58:14.000 Thank you.

01:58:16.000 Thank you.

01:58:17.000 And they pump thousands of gallons into the building.

01:58:22.000 We'll be right back with the third hour.

01:58:24.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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02:00:06.000 Alright, let's do it.

02:00:08.000 Let's go to your calls quickly.

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02:00:26.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Gene in Ohio.

02:00:29.000 Gene, you're on the air, welcome.

02:00:31.000 Hi, thanks for taking my call.

02:00:33.000 I just called to let you know a couple of the things I heard on late night radio on AM band.

02:00:40.000 And this is what I heard, in about June of last year, a Marine called in to talk show, and he said that the new Marine recruits are being asked to fire on the American people.

02:00:55.000 Then again, a month ago, I heard the same kind of report, only this guy said he had four years in, and we're asking him the same thing, to fire on the American people.

02:01:07.000 Well, I mean, instead of just a caller calling in and saying it, back in 92 there was the, no, 94, excuse me, the 29 Palm Survey, will you fire American citizens under PDD 25?

02:01:21.000 Will you confiscate farms under UN control?

02:01:24.000 And 76% said no.

02:01:26.000 They all got shipped out of the country.

02:01:27.000 The goons that said yes went into plainclothes and part of the covert homeland security system that was set up that Bill Clinton talked about in 1993 in speeches.

02:01:37.000 In the Army, in the Marines, with the Special Forces groups, they all ask him this question.

02:01:41.000 That's been in the news.

02:01:42.000 Paul Watson, comments?

02:01:45.000 Yeah, well, I wouldn't be surprised if they are training them, because just look at Iraq. 0.89

02:01:49.000 We've got people going door-to-door confiscating guns.

02:01:52.000 We had the now infamous Apache helicopter footage, where they indiscriminately fire and blow up, you know, a bunch of farmers who, it turns out, were waving white flags.

02:02:04.000 We've got CNN showing soldiers in Iraq killing what appear to be Iraqi civilians who are flopping around on the ground injured and then going...

02:02:13.000 You know, what was it like?

02:02:14.000 What did it feel like?

02:02:15.000 And the response from the soldiers is, you know, it feels great, I want to do it again.

02:02:19.000 So, I'm not sure about, you know, marine training exactly, but from what we see in Iraq, then I would not be surprised.

02:02:26.000 Well, let me tell people specifically, I've made two films just about this, Police State 2000, Police State 2, The Takeover, and in Police State 2000, they're drilling, and the people on the drills are saying, I'm an American, I have rights, not the camp!

02:02:40.000 So, yes sir, this is really going on.

02:02:42.000 Now, go ahead.

02:02:44.000 The only other thing I've heard you might want to comment on is I heard the President has rescinded Roosevelt's law stating the American people can have a certain weight of gold coins and you can expand on that.

02:02:58.000 Thank you.

02:02:59.000 No, that has not been done to my knowledge and Roosevelt didn't do that.

02:03:03.000 Roosevelt said you had to turn your gold in for paper in 1933 as first action.

02:03:08.000 And there are discussions of now going back and reinstituting that.

02:03:12.000 It's been done four times since the 1930s.

02:03:16.000 Okay, let's go ahead and take another call.

02:03:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Hawaii.

02:03:21.000 Mike, go ahead.

02:03:22.000 Thank you, Alex Jones, and you are a great American.

02:03:26.000 So are you!

02:03:27.000 Thanks for the call.

02:03:27.000 What's going on?

02:03:29.000 First time caller.

02:03:30.000 I just want to appreciate GCN Network for having you and all the other people.

02:03:35.000 I tell you what, you've really opened my eyes to the, quote, neocons.

02:03:39.000 I used to listen to Hannity.

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02:03:46.000 You have completely waned me off of the neocons.

02:03:49.000 A couple of quick things I'd like to ask you.

02:03:52.000 One, I'm 46 years old.

02:03:54.000 I was in the military for eight years in the Air Force.

02:03:58.000 This draft thing, I'd heard rumors about it, but your show is the only one I've heard mention it specifically.

02:04:04.000 How would that affect, do you know how it would possibly affect someone like me who's already been in the military over eight years?

02:04:11.000 And also, one other thing, are you going to be on Coast to Coast tonight?

02:04:15.000 Okay, stay there.

02:04:16.000 I'll answer both the questions after the break, okay?

02:04:20.000 Don't hang up, Mike.

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02:07:58.000 Alright, we're going back to Mike and all the callers here in a second.

02:08:01.000 Let me just read this article.

02:08:04.000 Again, this is from AFP.

02:08:05.000 The AP also ran a similar article.

02:08:08.000 Senator says U.S.

02:08:10.000 may need compulsory service to boost Iraq force.

02:08:15.000 Now, Paul, what we ought to do is, we ought to take the bills and post them again, or at least the bill numbers, and then post this article under it as a presentplanet.tv article.

02:08:25.000 That way it's all in one spot for people because Again, bills have been introduced for two years.

02:08:32.000 The average person has no idea.

02:08:34.000 It's, quote, a rumor.

02:08:35.000 We've had congressmen on saying they're trying to pass it, that this is going on.

02:08:39.000 And now a senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft.

02:08:46.000 There's not an American that doesn't understand what we are engaging today and what the prospects are for the future.

02:08:52.000 Senator Chuck Fagel, Putting Hegelian in the Hegelian dialectic, hold a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.

02:09:01.000 Quote, why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?

02:09:07.000 Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force, quote, our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of the challenges we face.

02:09:16.000 The Nebraska Republican added that a draft which was ended in the early 1970s would spread the burden of military service in Iraq more equitably among various social strata.

02:09:26.000 Those who are serving today are dying today, and the middle class and lower middle classes, he observed.

02:09:32.000 So, to answer Mike from Hawaii's questions, number one, I'm going to be on coast-to-coast AM, I'm told, for the full four hours as part of a panel discussion about the New World Order.

02:09:46.000 And then your other question is, how is it going to affect you with your former military service?

02:09:51.000 Tell me, were you an officer?

02:09:53.000 How long were you in?

02:09:54.000 What branch were you in?

02:09:56.000 I was in Air Force, Crypto Maintenance.

02:09:59.000 I was in from 1980, I think it was 1984 to 93.

02:10:01.000 I was enlisted.

02:10:02.000 I think it was 1984 to 93, I was enlisted.

02:10:09.000 Well if you were an officer they could call you up anytime they wanted to, what up to

02:10:15.000 like 65.

02:10:16.000 Yeah, but I was enlisted.

02:10:18.000 But no, I mean, I would say that if the draft comes, you're going to be the first on the list, even though you're enlisted, because the Houston Chronicle, two years ago when this all came out, this rumor, it's a rumor when we have the bills in our hands, said that it's going to be doctors, concrete pourers, it's got to be morticians, computer specialists, lawyers, The first group will be professionals, and it said people who've already been in before with professional skills.

02:10:50.000 You'll get a specialty draft.

02:10:53.000 Then the big draft for foot soldiers is 18 to 26.

02:10:55.000 Then they're talking about passing a domestic draft, 18 to 49.

02:11:00.000 Even if you have medical problems, you will be in data entry.

02:11:04.000 You'll have to watch surveillance cameras that are fed into a computer at your home or business.

02:11:08.000 Several hours a day, that'll be your job, doing a tattletale, ditch digging, weird environmental programs.

02:11:14.000 I mean, they list hundreds of things.

02:11:17.000 And it's all basically the Secure Corps program, a subdivision of AmeriCorps.

02:11:23.000 They mention that in one of the bills.

02:11:25.000 Tattletale programs, fugitive apprehension, hardened checkpoints that are toll roads.

02:11:32.000 You'll have to volunteer many hours a week at those, manning those.

02:11:36.000 Paul Watson, any comments for our guest?

02:11:38.000 Yeah, and as I mentioned before, on WABC, you know, Neocon New York, they were talking about linking all these school programs in mandatory volunteerism with things like AmeriCorps and SecurCorps.

02:11:52.000 So it's all going to be domestically based, basically.

02:11:55.000 We've got an entire section on PrisonPlanet.com.tv as well.

02:11:59.000 And the only people that have done that were Hitler and Stalin and Mao.

02:12:03.000 I mean, that is classic, folks.

02:12:06.000 So what should be, you know, I'm trying to understand on what I should, what my response, how to prepare my response for if, you know, that situation.

02:12:15.000 Well, you know what?

02:12:17.000 They would never get away with it if we had a preemptive debate about it, but they want to have it all lined up, ready to be passed, so when they blow something up, during the emotion, we'll accept it, and then they say that's just the way it is.

02:12:29.000 They don't want us to have a debate now, before they set a big building up like a Roman candle.

02:12:36.000 So we better let everybody know this is not a rumor.

02:12:39.000 There have been bills for over two years.

02:12:42.000 I keep saying two years.

02:12:43.000 Time keeps flying.

02:12:44.000 Over two years.

02:12:45.000 Now there's twelve of them.

02:12:47.000 And everybody, 18 to 49, and then some even younger in the school programs, are going to be under federal control being given our domestic duties.

02:12:58.000 Has nothing to do with the war.

02:13:00.000 Nothing to do with terror.

02:13:02.000 This is government ownership of the people.

02:13:05.000 I believe it.

02:13:06.000 So, so, I mean, what do we do?

02:13:09.000 That's a good question to the listeners.

02:13:11.000 I mean, I'm just thinking about this.

02:13:12.000 I've been thinking about this for years when they call me and say, you know, you've got to, you know, show up ten hours a week at the local nature center helping, you know, You know, dig out from the reigns we had.

02:13:28.000 There's discussions there.

02:13:30.000 You've got to show up at the new toll road they're putting in and help search cars.

02:13:34.000 I saw that in 98.

02:13:36.000 And they're saying that's the plan.

02:13:37.000 I'm going to say no! 0.97

02:13:38.000 And then the SWAT team will come to my house and drag me out, shoot me, whatever, drag me off. 1.00

02:13:44.000 They'll be on the news going, look at this coward. 0.96

02:13:46.000 And the reason I say that is because they will target prominent people who are against it.

02:13:51.000 You as a citizen, average Joe, you're not going to be prosecuted.

02:13:55.000 Now, they will, though, once you've got a national ID card, have to swipe it to buy and sell.

02:14:00.000 Oh, you refuse the draft.

02:14:04.000 It's like the no-fly list.

02:14:05.000 It's going to be a no-buy list.

02:14:07.000 And I have reds on tape saying all this.

02:14:09.000 So, it's a hellish system, my friend.

02:14:11.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:14:13.000 Maybe you should have a special area on your website.

02:14:19.000 Maybe some guides or whatever or other resources that people could go to to sort of like, okay, what can we do to prepare ourselves on how to respond and also to be proactive on what we can do.

02:14:31.000 Well, number one, if people just knew about this, but I hear the neocons on radio going, there's no plan, it's a liberal lie!

02:14:38.000 You know, don't listen to them.

02:14:39.000 I mean, everything's liberal.

02:14:42.000 Oh, you're a liberal because you're pro-gun.

02:14:43.000 You know, you're a liberal because you're against campaign finance reform.

02:14:48.000 Thanks for the call.

02:14:49.000 I just... I mean, what do you do?

02:14:52.000 Paul, there's... I asked you this question a few days ago, but I did find an article about it.

02:14:58.000 There's a discussion of a draft in the United Kingdom.

02:15:01.000 Maybe they're going to take you away from us.

02:15:02.000 You're going to have to go serve on the front lines in a fog of depleted uranium.

02:15:08.000 Well, that's exactly the case, especially with the controls of Blair tied in so closely to Borkin.

02:15:14.000 But, I mean, We've got them in the Working for Homeland section of PrisonPlanet.com where Arizona registered men between 18 and 25 who signed up for driver's licenses and the quote out of the article was

02:15:30.000 America hasn't had a military draft since 1973, but Arizona intends to be ready if it ever happens again.

02:15:37.000 Yeah, and last year the Pentagon reactivated the draft boards, started organizing them on the Pentagon website.

02:15:45.000 We got it, posted it.

02:15:46.000 People couldn't believe it.

02:15:47.000 They then took it down, but they're still setting up the draft boards, and they're running ads all over the radio.

02:15:52.000 Be sure and sign up or we're going to arrest you.

02:15:55.000 And they've introduced the bills.

02:15:56.000 They're getting ready for it.

02:15:59.000 And it's bipartisan, if you want to call it that.

02:16:01.000 Hagel, obviously the Republican, calling for it.

02:16:04.000 Last year, Democratic lawmaker Rangel called for it, and that was in CNN.

02:16:10.000 We've also got that article.

02:16:11.000 So it's across the board that they're pushing this while the bills, you know, are sailing through Congress.

02:16:17.000 And you can better believe that Hagel's children, or Bush's children, you better believe that the Bush daughters aren't going to be anywhere.

02:16:27.000 No, don't worry.

02:16:28.000 They won't be serving for Homeland.

02:16:30.000 They're going to be on tour with Britney Spears!

02:16:33.000 Well, certainly.

02:16:34.000 Seattle Post Intelligence.

02:16:37.000 The talk of a draft grows despite denials by White House.

02:16:40.000 But then from those leaked news memos, we got it that Rumsfeld said, we need this and we are going to get it when they were talking about receiving it.

02:16:49.000 Well, this is the incredible thing.

02:16:50.000 They have a total information awareness program.

02:16:52.000 They have a matrix system.

02:16:54.000 They have all this stuff And they announced that it's in the news, they introduced bills, they passed some of this stuff, and then they're still denying it even exists!

02:17:02.000 I mean, it's... Let's go ahead and take a call.

02:17:05.000 Let's talk to Brian in South Carolina, then Justin, Ryan, and others.

02:17:09.000 Brian, go ahead.

02:17:11.000 I'm from South Carolina.

02:17:11.000 Hi, Alex.

02:17:13.000 I was in the Army for seven years.

02:17:15.000 I was a Morse code receptor.

02:17:17.000 But anyway, I have two questions for you.

02:17:21.000 One, if there was a national emergency right before The election?

02:17:25.000 Would that halt the election?

02:17:28.000 You know, they don't need to do that because they've got the fix.

02:17:31.000 You know, the fix is in with two cousins, a member of the same secret brotherhood sworn to each other.

02:17:36.000 It's that staged.

02:17:38.000 But, you know, will they blow something up to create hysteria during the election as a political diversion?

02:17:45.000 I think the answer is yes.

02:17:47.000 But, again, I don't have a crystal ball.

02:17:50.000 What do you think is going to happen?

02:17:54.000 Are you there, Brian?

02:17:55.000 Yeah, I'm here.

02:17:57.000 Let me ask you this question.

02:17:58.000 What's the feeling, what's the mindset of the troops right now?

02:18:02.000 I'm not in the Army anymore.

02:18:04.000 I got out in 2000.

02:18:05.000 Okay.

02:18:07.000 Do you ever talk to your old buddies?

02:18:08.000 What do they say?

02:18:09.000 I do, and they believe that there will be a draft and that they're ready for it.

02:18:19.000 They're ready for us to be fighting in Iraq.

02:18:23.000 A lot of people.

02:18:26.000 To get off that, I have another question.

02:18:31.000 I was looking under your Info Wars and Prison Planet and I didn't see anything about the Bush plan about stopping overtime.

02:18:43.000 I work at a job that makes $40,000 a year and overtime It was my extra money, my spending money.

02:18:50.000 Well, you've got to understand, we put probably 50 new articles a day on the sites, and then it's like a newspaper.

02:18:56.000 It's like each issue goes back, and you can click back, going back several years on both the sites.

02:19:03.000 But yeah, about six months ago, they were trying to pass legislation to get rid of overtime and even reduce the minimum wage, and I don't have it in front of me.

02:19:11.000 My memory fails me.

02:19:12.000 Paul, did that pass?

02:19:14.000 I didn't track that story, so chances are it was posted on Infowars.com, not PrisonPlanet.com, so it'll probably be in that search engine if you try it on Infowars.com.

02:19:24.000 Yeah, I don't know the status of that.

02:19:25.000 We were just covering the legislation, so that's a good question.

02:19:28.000 Yeah, a friend of mine told me that it did pass a few days ago, and I was wondering if you had anything about it.

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02:24:00.000 i don't know what you're going to change the pension where you no longer have a right to your pension your

02:24:08.000 private pensions Did you know that?

02:24:09.000 The feds did that. 0.99

02:24:11.000 And then I never had time to keep track of it after that.

02:24:14.000 I just hear them writing pension funds from time to time now.

02:24:18.000 And I remember them trying to get rid of the minimum wage and go after overtime.

02:24:23.000 And I knew they wanted to get rid of it.

02:24:25.000 I mean, it's just... And people say, well, that's socialism.

02:24:27.000 You can't have that on a free market.

02:24:29.000 Well, when you've got socialism in the government and a society that's set up where you have to have a certain amount of money to survive and live, then that's a component that's needed.

02:24:39.000 Especially when you're pumping in another, you know, million and a half illegal aliens every year, who work for two bucks an hour.

02:24:46.000 You see, now it gets rid of the minimum wage entirely and drives down wages even more.

02:24:50.000 So, I don't know where that is right now.

02:24:51.000 Maybe somebody can call in and tell us.

02:24:53.000 Paul Watson, let's go ahead and take another call.

02:24:57.000 I guess up next is Justin.

02:25:00.000 Justin, where are you calling us from?

02:25:01.000 Kansas City, Missouri.

02:25:03.000 Welcome.

02:25:04.000 I want to say I love your show and I love your documentaries and the Skull and Bones clip was great.

02:25:10.000 I emailed it to about 50 people.

02:25:14.000 But I want to talk about a show that was on Trio that you were on.

02:25:18.000 You never talked about it.

02:25:20.000 It was a five-hour documentary made by a British guy that was in the Bohemian Grove documentary.

02:25:27.000 Well, I have talked about it, but I mean, it aired years ago, and it airs... Oh, really?

02:25:32.000 Yeah, I mean, it airs routinely now on national television.

02:25:36.000 I think it's aired... As of six months ago, it had aired 20 times.

02:25:41.000 I don't know if it's aired again.

02:25:42.000 What, did you see it again?

02:25:43.000 Yeah, it was on just recently, but half of it's whitewash.

02:25:47.000 Half of it's, like, trying to make the conspiracy theorists look like terrorists.

02:25:52.000 Well, yeah, I didn't make the film.

02:25:55.000 Yeah, I know.

02:25:56.000 It's just a joke. 1.00

02:25:56.000 He tries to make you look like an idiot at the end of the Bohemian Grove segment. 1.00

02:26:03.000 I was wondering why he's never on the show or anything. 0.99

02:26:07.000 John Ronson?

02:26:08.000 You know, that aired what?

02:26:10.000 Three and a half years ago on national British television.

02:26:13.000 That's how Paul Watson and myself got hooked up.

02:26:15.000 Paul, you want to comment on the British documentary?

02:26:18.000 Yeah, well, it was mainly a whitewash.

02:26:20.000 And to read, you know, Ronson's book, which links Alex in with all these neo-Nazis, basically, we know that it's a whitewash and it's a demonization thing.

02:26:30.000 But still, if it hadn't have aired, then I probably wouldn't be here speaking now, because that's how I first came into contact with, you know, what Alex was doing.

02:26:38.000 Now, by the way, Again, he doesn't say I'm a Neo-Nazi.

02:26:42.000 He has a chapter on Neo-Nazis, a chapter on Bin Laden, and then, ooh, a couple chapters on me!

02:26:48.000 You know, it's like guilt by association.

02:26:53.000 So you saw that air again, huh?

02:26:56.000 Yeah, I was just on recently on Trio on cable, like March, I think.

02:27:03.000 Yeah, that's one of their favorite shows.

02:27:05.000 It's a five-hour miniseries, and I'm in, I think, three of the five hours.

02:27:12.000 All right, well, anything else on your mind?

02:27:14.000 No, that was it.

02:27:16.000 Thanks.

02:27:16.000 Okay, thank you for the call, Justin.

02:27:18.000 Let's talk to Jack in Rhode Island.

02:27:20.000 Jack, go ahead.

02:27:21.000 Hey, Alex.

02:27:22.000 Did you see John McCain quoting Chairman Mao with Katie Couric this morning?

02:27:28.000 No, I didn't.

02:27:28.000 Yeah, she was asking about the insurgency in Iraq.

02:27:32.000 Do we need more troops?

02:27:33.000 Do we need a draft?

02:27:34.000 And he so eloquently quoted Chairman Mao in that there's 70% of the people out of work over there in Iraq, and Chairman Mao says a fish is to water what a gorilla is to idleness, and that's the real problem.

02:27:47.000 You're joking!

02:27:48.000 The Manchurian candidate actually quoted Mao?

02:27:52.000 Yeah, as if it's a good thing.

02:27:53.000 You know, we've heard David Rockefeller quote Mao and talk about how great Chairman Mao is and China is, but just completely went right by everybody, I'm sure. 0.97

02:28:02.000 Yeah, McCain was a traitor. 0.75

02:28:04.000 I've had the troops on that were with him. 0.99

02:28:07.000 He sold them out. 1.00

02:28:08.000 He's been nothing but a cowardly traitor all along. 1.00

02:28:11.000 And a gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, sniveling worm. 1.00

02:28:15.000 And these neocons just love that CFR member. 0.67

02:28:20.000 So, Jack, you're saying that he actually quoted Chairman Mao?

02:28:25.000 Right.

02:28:25.000 I mean, again, this just goes right by everybody, and so isn't that nice?

02:28:29.000 Say the quote again.

02:28:30.000 The quote was something and I just, it shocked me.

02:28:33.000 I don't even watch this show.

02:28:34.000 I kind of was getting ready for work and caught it.

02:28:36.000 He said something about Mao, quoted Mao, a fish is to water what a gorilla is to idleness and by gorilla he meant gorilla fighter.

02:28:45.000 I don't even know if it's an exact quote, but of course he uses it as malice.

02:28:48.000 If that, it's going to give some validity to his point.

02:28:51.000 You mean he said, well Chairman Mao says... Exactly.

02:28:54.000 He should have a little red book, hit himself on the head with it. 0.95

02:28:57.000 And that's why we need to put people to work over there in Iraq. 1.00

02:28:59.000 And of course he's a guy really signed up for the draft.

02:29:02.000 He wants more troops over there right now.

02:29:04.000 But see, this is the new conservatism is quoting Mao.

02:29:07.000 I mean, I'm sure Michael Savage will be pleased.

02:29:10.000 He can probably quote chapter and verse the whole...

02:29:13.000 The Little Red Book of Mal. 0.81

02:29:15.000 Anything else, Jack?

02:29:18.000 Jack, you still there?

02:29:20.000 Jack gone, okay.

02:29:21.000 Good to hear from you, Jack.

02:29:23.000 Alright, we'll come back and, uh... Paul, I know we got some other news.

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02:37:00.000 Your chance to respond to the National Draft, to the line i eleven commission

02:37:07.000 all this police state news but i'm about to get back into some of that but

02:37:10.000 but but paul watson i mean i'm just so fired up so much is happening on one

02:37:16.000 side you've got millions of people waking up every year now just

02:37:19.000 here in the u s on the other side of the equation the globalists are in

02:37:24.000 high gear right now what do you see happening in the next six months to a year

02:37:30.000 uh... well as we discussed An attack before the election is more than 50% likely.

02:37:36.000 Whether it will be large-scale, I doubt it at this point.

02:37:39.000 It'll probably be either an escalation of bombings in foreign countries, like the Bali bombing and the Spain bombing and things like that, or some kind of low or medium level attack here, well there in the US.

02:37:52.000 And they've also been hyping up this cyber attack, which will be very convenient to wipe out the internet, which is you know such a a massive platform for it now

02:38:02.000 so maybe a different form of attack that we've seen in the past but definitely

02:38:06.000 uh... medium or large scale before the election now that's a very important thing you just brought up about

02:38:12.000 the cyber attack every time i mean every time they're about to pass some new

02:38:16.000 draconian internet

02:38:18.000 regulation or taxation law every time they're about to do this suddenly there's a big

02:38:23.000 hack attack and they go see

02:38:25.000 we've got to have this So by launching a huge attack, and DARPA built the internet folks, the Total Information Awareness folks, built the internet back in the 60's,

02:38:35.000 No, it wasn't Al Gore.

02:38:36.000 He's a liar, but they helped to set this whole thing up.

02:38:41.000 They can bring a lot of it down, and they're saying, brace for it all to be brought down. 0.65

02:38:46.000 Then they get to shut off information flow while they're moving forward, while they're taking over with a police state move, and then after the attack, they can then bring in more regulation, make you have an ID number when you get on the internet, Paul.

02:39:00.000 Well, yeah, and we've got the article today out of China where Just to log on at the internet cafes there, which the Chinese government basically bombed last year and said, well, we've got to close all these cafes down now because they're a fire threat.

02:39:15.000 So basically they closed most of them down.

02:39:17.000 That was admitted.

02:39:17.000 They firebombed a bunch of them and then shut most of them down.

02:39:20.000 Yeah, now the article out today says that the Chinese have to enter personal information straight from their ID card to access the Internet.

02:39:29.000 Now understand, this is being introduced by Senator Hatch and others.

02:39:32.000 They're pushing, Microsoft is pushing, to make you do that.

02:39:35.000 And cameras watch you in the Internet cafes.

02:39:38.000 Well, the public schools, they have cameras watching what they do.

02:39:42.000 Again, everything China's doing, we're doing, but it's evil when they do it, it's good when we do it. 1.00

02:39:47.000 Go ahead.

02:39:48.000 And on top of that, The e-mails, I mean, these viruses that crop up every week, you know, duplicate your entire address book and then send out all these spam e-mails to thousands of people.

02:39:59.000 You know, where is that originating from?

02:40:01.000 While at the same time we've got Microsoft proposing charging for every e-mail you send to supposedly stop the spammers.

02:40:10.000 Well, in fact, it's to stop It's incredible what they're up to.

02:40:13.000 Let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

02:40:15.000 Up next is Ishmael in Canada.

02:40:16.000 towards this whole charging to send an email so that's why we see massive

02:40:21.000 proliferation of all these viruses at the moment. It's incredible what they're

02:40:27.000 up to let's go ahead and go back to the calls up next is Ishmael in Canada go

02:40:32.000 ahead. He just hung up.

02:40:36.000 Okay.

02:40:36.000 Don in Tennessee.

02:40:38.000 Don, go ahead.

02:40:38.000 Yeah.

02:40:39.000 A while ago I heard you speaking with someone, Alex, talking about the overtime bill in Congress.

02:40:46.000 Yes.

02:40:46.000 Yesterday afternoon, around 5-ish, on the Fox News, they released some news information on that, that there will be a $23,000 qualifier.

02:40:57.000 If you don't make $23,000 or more a year, then you won't qualify for overtime.

02:41:01.000 That was on Fox News yesterday.

02:41:03.000 So they did pass the bill?

02:41:05.000 Yes.

02:41:06.000 And, you know, the overtime is for people that don't make a lot of money, and this is sick!

02:41:13.000 And I have employees that I pay overtime, but I mean, I want to pay them!

02:41:17.000 But again, this is so the illegals can drive the wages down to nothing. 1.00

02:41:23.000 That's all I had, Alex.

02:41:24.000 Just keep up the good work.

02:41:26.000 Well, were they saying that this was wonderful and conservative on the show?

02:41:31.000 I didn't really hear them say it was wonderful and conservative.

02:41:34.000 I just heard them say that this legislation has made it through and that the qualifier is $23,000 or more a year, that the workers then will get overtime, $23,000 and under, no.

02:41:47.000 Incredible.

02:41:49.000 Race to the bottom, thanks for the call.

02:41:52.000 Unbelievable.

02:41:52.000 And that's, again, and there's another bill to get rid of the minimum wage right now.

02:41:58.000 I don't know where that's at.

02:41:59.000 It's been months since I looked at it, but again, that's so the illegals can bring it down to nothing. 0.98

02:42:06.000 You see, when the globalists say they're going to make the world fair and equitable, they mean they're going to get rid of the middle class and bring us down to the third world level, so the bankers can have total control.

02:42:15.000 Paul?

02:42:16.000 Well, yeah, and it's to eliminate all those kinds of jobs, so every job can be linked in with some kind of government security job.

02:42:24.000 Like the New York Times reporting late last year that Homeland Security is setting up, you know, this whole bank of surveillance where we'll be forced to watch these cameras on our computer.

02:42:35.000 New York Times glorified it as creating a whole host of new jobs.

02:42:40.000 So it's basically to do with that and the fact that, yeah, they're trying to lower the economy to third world status, redistribution, basic outright socialism.

02:42:51.000 And then the only jobs you can have is as a tattletale.

02:42:55.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ishmael.

02:42:56.000 He's back.

02:42:57.000 Ishmael, go ahead.

02:43:02.000 I'm sorry, sir.

02:43:02.000 The first of what you said got cut off.

02:43:04.000 Go ahead.

02:43:04.000 Are you kidding?

02:43:05.000 They're getting rid of your free speech, though.

02:43:06.000 They're passing all sorts of hate laws.

02:43:07.000 They've registered your guns and have banned most types.

02:43:09.000 the fight is there in america so what can people do in canada to help you out

02:43:13.000 are you kidding they're getting rid of your free speech leather pass and all

02:43:16.000 sorts of hate laws there they've registered your guns in a band most heights uh...

02:43:22.000 you're under the exact same system Wow.

02:43:24.000 I'm going to go ahead and get my phone.

02:43:26.000 Dang.

02:43:26.000 Oh, the next question is about the draft.

02:43:28.000 Yes.

02:43:29.000 Will they be arming their civilian citizenry when they draft them?

02:43:35.000 Well, you see, the government is going to make most of the draftees stay at home because it's 18 to 49, and they'll tell you what you're going to do. 0.94

02:43:43.000 You'll be part of an environmental Propaganda Squad.

02:43:46.000 That's what AmeriCorps did under Clinton. 0.85

02:43:48.000 It was socialism, political pamphleteering.

02:43:51.000 It'll be armies of people out saving the environment.

02:43:54.000 That is, helping grab property, helping run checkpoints, tattling on neighbors.

02:43:59.000 I mean, it says all this.

02:44:01.000 Digging ditches.

02:44:03.000 You're told where to show up on Saturday to help city workers cut down grass on the highway.

02:44:11.000 You'll be doing what prisoners do, because you are a prisoner.

02:44:15.000 And we have all the mainstream articles, it's in the bills, Paul.

02:44:19.000 Oh yeah, you'll have your own special uniform, maybe even a brown shirt, and basically that's the thing, they'll have all these... Let's not be sarcastic, it says it's going to be a grey uniform.

02:44:31.000 Well, they'll have them all stationed everywhere.

02:44:33.000 Shopping malls, you know, theatres everywhere.

02:44:35.000 Government enforcers for, you know, to watch out for subversive activity.

02:44:39.000 That's the plan.

02:44:40.000 It's like China. 0.97

02:44:41.000 Straight from China. 0.93

02:44:42.000 And they're saying on the news, why shouldn't we have citizens out handing out pamphlets to warn about terror activity?

02:44:48.000 They hand out pamphlets and they watch for terrorists.

02:44:51.000 They're already going to make all the truck drivers do this, make the truck drivers thumb scan at these refueling stations to quote, make sure they've been sleeping.

02:45:01.000 That's going in right now.

02:45:03.000 Total control!

02:45:05.000 Well, now, about the religious organizations like the Jehovah Witness and the Mormons, are they still going to be allowed to knock on doors? 0.94

02:45:12.000 Or is that considered an act of terrorism?

02:45:15.000 I haven't seen that.

02:45:16.000 Thanks for the call.

02:45:17.000 I appreciate it. 0.98

02:45:19.000 But the Mormons are getting, who are pretty good people on average, that is, politically active, but their leaders are just so horrible. 1.00

02:45:26.000 I mean, Orrin Hatch is as evil as it gets, but, oh, he's a good Mormon, we must follow him.

02:45:33.000 There's a real disconnect between the average Mormon and the Mormon leader.

02:45:36.000 It's just like there's an average disconnect between Catholics and Catholic leaders.

02:45:41.000 There's a disconnect between Baptists and Baptist leaders.

02:45:44.000 It's our leaders.

02:45:45.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Dave in Colorado.

02:45:49.000 You're on the air.

02:45:49.000 Dave, go ahead.

02:45:50.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:45:51.000 Fine, sir.

02:45:53.000 About this overtime bill, I was watching C-SPAN on the 19th and they had two senators and a representative.

02:46:01.000 One of them was Senator Kennedy.

02:46:03.000 And they said that the bill was totally ridiculous and that they would not pass it.

02:46:13.000 If one person lost their overtime.

02:46:16.000 But see, that way the liberals get to look good, and then conservatives see Kennedy against it, so, oh, it must be wonderful.

02:46:22.000 Here is the problem.

02:46:23.000 They've designed a system of taxation, regulation, and the inflation, where you've got to have the national average, if you're a single person, $8 an hour, 40 hours a week, and you don't have insurance, you don't have anything, you get nothing.

02:46:39.000 Now, if you have a family, you've got to make $12 an hour to just have anything for your children.

02:46:45.000 So, they've designed it this way because of their socialism.

02:46:49.000 Whereas 30 years ago, 40 years ago, Daddy had a blue-collar job at the factory, they went on three vacations a year, they had a mobile RV, they had a country club membership to play golf at the blue-collar country club, you got to put your kids through college.

02:47:07.000 You can forget all that!

02:47:09.000 Because they socialize things, get us addicted to government, design the system to destroy the middle class. 0.91

02:47:15.000 Paul comments.

02:47:18.000 ...cycle out of the Wichita Eagle, which talks about this bill and it says, under the rules which the Bush administration has pushed for a year, up to 1.3 million low-income workers will gain overtime eligibility, and anywhere from 100,000 to 8 million workers will lose it.

02:47:38.000 And if there's new employment rules issued Wednesday, it will take years to fully understand that some workers are already worried that they could lose overtime pay.

02:47:45.000 So we're talking about, according to this article, up to $8 million.

02:47:48.000 And Bush says exporting jobs is our number one export.

02:47:51.000 Thanks for the call.

02:47:51.000 It's good.

02:47:53.000 John in Tennessee.

02:47:54.000 John, go ahead.

02:47:56.000 If you go to the Boeing.com website for its 757 and PhantomWorks UAV robot project, its flash privacy settings ask, quote, You want Boeing to control your computer's microphone and video camera, end quote.

02:48:11.000 I find that interesting.

02:48:15.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that where they can tie in through the microphone on your cable box, your computer, you name it, and listen to you.

02:48:21.000 Yeah, that's why they want everybody hooked up on cable broadband. 0.86

02:48:25.000 Also, here's an example of CNN, retarded Nazi cops of the American police state. 0.97

02:48:32.000 The headline for WRAL.com says, quote, Man arrested after rushing pregnant wife to hospital. 0.86

02:48:40.000 So he was pulled over for speeding, taking his pregnant wife, whose water had broken, to the hospital.

02:48:46.000 And he gets out to explain to the officers that he's got a medical emergency.

02:48:50.000 They point guns at him.

02:48:52.000 And when he gets to the hospital, they arrest him for resisting arrest.

02:48:56.000 Throw him in jail.

02:48:58.000 Yeah, the common sense is gone.

02:49:00.000 Common sense is gone.

02:49:01.000 You can watch the video at That's at news14charlotte.com.

02:49:11.000 The police car video.

02:49:13.000 Hey, Paul, I want to get that posted.

02:49:15.000 I also want to get this video clip of the gay militia rushing in to the Christian meeting, trying to stop them. 0.95

02:49:25.000 That's in the article.

02:49:28.000 We need to post both of those.

02:49:29.000 Thanks for the call, John. 0.96

02:49:32.000 Disgusting.

02:49:34.000 Paul, I saw the article three weeks ago.

02:49:35.000 I first heard it on Paul Harvey, then found the article where they pull a family over with two children and a mother, and the guy thought they were done with him.

02:49:45.000 And he pulled off slowly, so they fired 23 shots into the car, despite the fact that they were young children.

02:49:51.000 I mean, why are we seeing more and more of this mental illness?

02:49:55.000 Well, as you mentioned, it's the complete eradication of common sense.

02:50:00.000 When you heighten people's fear, psychologically, with all these fake terror alerts, then that filters down to the police, who are being told that, you know, we're basically on red alert already.

02:50:10.000 Then that has the effect of completely eviscerating any common sense, whereby they treat anyone, even families, as a threat to national security.

02:50:19.000 And so that's why we see those sort of insane incidents happen more and more.

02:50:24.000 Well, I gotta tell ya, my wife's water's broken and the baby's coming and we gotta get to the hospital.

02:50:30.000 I'm gonna put the pedal to the metal.

02:50:35.000 But I'm Al-Qaeda because of that, I guess. 0.60

02:50:37.000 All misdemeanors are Al-Qaeda actions punishable by secret execution.

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02:55:36.000 Let's go ahead and take a call from James in Louisiana.

02:55:41.000 James in Louisiana, go ahead.

02:55:43.000 Hello?

02:55:44.000 Yes.

02:55:45.000 Hey, Alex.

02:55:45.000 How you doing?

02:55:46.000 I was in Austin last week.

02:55:47.000 I had a chance to listen to your show.

02:55:49.000 Because I live here in New Orleans and your show is not on none of the airways here.

02:55:53.000 Yes.

02:55:54.000 And it's ridiculous that Clear Channel Broadcasting here has the monopoly on it.

02:56:00.000 You know, because every time they put a new station in, about two weeks later, it gets canceled out because of them.

02:56:06.000 You know?

02:56:07.000 And I was wondering, what can you do to get your show down here?

02:56:11.000 Find out who the mom-and-pop or privately-owned stations are that love freedom.

02:56:15.000 Chances are, chances are they've heard of me and get them to pick the show up.

02:56:19.000 I've been trying and it seems like I hit a few walls.

02:56:22.000 And the only thing, the only other channel that we do have around here that was decent, they canceled that out about two weeks ago.

02:56:31.000 I know, I know.

02:56:33.000 It's very serious.

02:56:34.000 I'm sorry we're out of time.

02:56:35.000 Thanks for the call.

02:56:36.000 Chris in Tennessee.

02:56:37.000 Chris, go ahead.

02:56:40.000 Alex, I've been following this overtime bill, and if anybody else objects to it the way I do, you can go to c-span.org and post your letter in there in the community.

02:56:48.000 Also, the internet is abuzz about your interview tonight with George Norrie.

02:56:52.000 I'm not one of his paid subscribers, but the interview and all the political chat rooms are talking about your interview tonight, and good luck on it, sir.

02:57:00.000 Well, you can listen on over 500 radio stations, so... I will try to find it, but this overtime bill, Tom Harkin is trying to reverse it, and if anybody else Uh, feels the same way that we should keep our overtime.

02:57:12.000 Please go to c-span.org.

02:57:14.000 Well, we can't do that because we've got to undercut you with the illegal aliens. 1.00

02:57:18.000 Thanks for the call.

02:57:20.000 Thanks a lot.

02:57:20.000 Uh, John in New York.

02:57:22.000 You've got 30 seconds.

02:57:23.000 Go ahead, John.

02:57:24.000 New York?

02:57:25.000 Yes.

02:57:27.000 Real quick, um, the woman asked me before about a, a, a, uh, uh, the, the tapes, taping the show, do they make an FM transmitter?

02:57:34.000 You could probably get from Radio Shack, made by Sea Crane Company, that you can put a thing out 70 feet within your house and you can record it on an FM radio, just tune in.

02:57:42.000 Alright, thanks for calling.

02:57:43.000 Also, CNN, this is important, there was a, uh, oh God, uh, I want to know also what they're going to, what they want to do with all these aliens, what they're going to do with the draft.

02:57:52.000 What about all these people, where do they stand?

02:57:53.000 Oh, they love it!

02:57:54.000 They're in love!

02:57:55.000 And my last thing is, I don't know if I can get this in quick, but CNN a week ago, I was in a doctor's office looking, there was a screen came on, bingo, I forgot what happened, but the colors, it was like blue and whatever.

02:58:08.000 On the right hand corner of the screen was a hideous skull looking at you from a bar at the right eye, would be the right eye, which would be the left eye.

02:58:16.000 Coming out in a corner.

02:58:17.000 Looked like it might have been a jail.

02:58:19.000 I gotta let you go.

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