Alex Jones Show - 20040517_Mon_Alex

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00:00:37.000 Monday, already the 17th day of May 2004.

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00:01:04.000 A lot of big developments.

00:01:07.000 A lot of incredible Big Brother activities.

00:01:10.000 You know what RFID is?

00:01:12.000 Radio Frequency Identification Chips.

00:01:15.000 They're implanting them in people's bodies now.

00:01:17.000 Thousands of Americans have gotten it.

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00:01:24.000 They want to put it in the old people, the young people, the troops. 0.98

00:01:27.000 It's all happening right now.

00:01:29.000 Well, USA Today came out with a glowing article saying we all need the chip.

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00:01:34.000 It's no big deal.

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00:01:38.000 It'll be sold to us as a stylish counterculture move to get back at your parents. 0.93

00:01:43.000 And Coca-Cola has a Coke can with an RFID, a high-powered one, tracking you.

00:01:51.000 And that's in the mainstream media as well.

00:01:55.000 No, you haven't fallen into a time warp, a Philip K. Dick novel.

00:01:58.000 It's really happening.

00:02:00.000 And Rumsfeld and Firing Line for clearing abuse of prisoners.

00:02:04.000 Well, of course he did.

00:02:05.000 Now they admit that it was all right out of a CIA manual on torture.

00:02:10.000 And we're just being given the lighter side of it, if you can believe that.

00:02:14.000 There's new photos of people savagely beating to death that we have on the website, which the government admits are real.

00:02:21.000 They've also been trying to put out fake ones to muddy the waters, but we have noticed those and assessed those immediately upon sight and have put that out even before they put their spin on it.

00:02:34.000 Also, Mr. Nicholas Berg, who supposedly had his head sawed off viciously a few weeks ago, we're going to have to go back over this.

00:02:43.000 You know, he was investigated with the hijackers, now not one but two, magically bumping into them, giving them passwords.

00:02:52.000 Mr. Berg worked at the Abu Ghraib prison, that's admitted.

00:02:55.000 Mr. Berg dropped out of an Ivy League school to suddenly go traversing the world with high-tech communications.

00:03:01.000 Classic intelligence MO.

00:03:03.000 He was held by U.S.

00:03:05.000 forces for thirteen and a half days, then released right into Al's CIA hands.

00:03:09.000 Only to have his head sawed off, supposedly, but that video is very questionable.

00:03:13.000 And now, the Philadelphia News is reporting here, Berg met with Shady Iraqi, Under U.S. 0.68

00:03:22.000 intelligence control, an A.I.

00:03:25.000 Iraqi who's been caught shipping in crack cocaine.

00:03:30.000 So, it's about a 110% chance, no, a 150% chance that Mr. Berg worked for some intelligence agency. 0.87

00:03:38.000 I mean, this is getting ridiculous. 0.76

00:03:42.000 This is out of control. 0.95

00:03:44.000 This is unbelievable. 0.88

00:03:46.000 This is an orgy of evidence.

00:03:48.000 Maybe he didn't work for an intelligence agency the more I think about it.

00:03:50.000 This is much evidence that he did.

00:03:51.000 There's another strange new twist to the saga of Nick Berg.

00:03:55.000 In his final days of Iraq before his savage videotape beheading, Berg teamed up in Baghdad with ex-Philippine man who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates encouraged by the U.S.

00:04:07.000 government, i.e.

00:04:08.000 CIA shills.

00:04:10.000 Even as he faced deportation for his role in Russian, uh, immigrate crime ring, selling millions of vials used for crack. 0.92

00:04:21.000 Mmm.

00:04:23.000 Aziz Khadouri, Aziz, also known as Aziz Al-Tayyi, hooked up earlier this year with 26-year-old Wes Chester Mann to start a small company called Charat.

00:04:37.000 Arger Babool, or Babylon Tower Co.

00:04:41.000 Oh, Babylon Towers Co.

00:04:42.000 that would install, inspect, and repair telecommunications and utility towers.

00:04:49.000 Getting very, very suspicious by the millisecond.

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00:08:02.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

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00:08:18.000 Thanks for joining us on this opening salvo of the week.

00:08:23.000 This Monday, the 17th of May, 2004.

00:08:27.000 We're going to have wide open phones.

00:08:29.000 Any news item across the political spectrum, globally.

00:08:32.000 You'd like to discuss any police state action, Big Brother news.

00:08:36.000 The torture that's being promoted on all the big night-time TV dramas, how we're being told torture is wonderful in the fiction and non-fiction media.

00:08:45.000 Anything you'd like to discuss, it's a toll-free number, 1-800-259-9231.

00:08:48.000 Rumsfeld in the firing line for clearing abuse of prisoners. 0.92

00:08:58.000 And Rumsfeld says this is just ridiculous.

00:09:01.000 And remember him on Face the Nation? 0.78

00:09:03.000 He got up there on TV and said, I never said there were weapons of mass destruction.

00:09:06.000 It was an imminent threat.

00:09:07.000 This is a wives tale, an urban legend.

00:09:10.000 And so they started playing clips of him and showing text clips of him saying it.

00:09:14.000 I mean, we've all seen it.

00:09:16.000 The neocons are still on the radio and TV saying that the mobile weapons trucks were for producing anthrax.

00:09:23.000 Though six, eight months ago, generals admitted that it was for pumping up hot air balloons.

00:09:29.000 Now Powell on TV said that it was for pumping up balloons, but still the neocons will accuse me of being a liar.

00:09:37.000 They're still up there saying they found mass graves.

00:09:39.000 They're still saying Niger ship uranium to Iraq.

00:09:43.000 They're still saying the letters from the troops in the newspapers are real after the Pentagon admits they planted them.

00:09:49.000 They are in total and complete unbelievable denial.

00:09:53.000 By the way, now a senator has come out and said the thing that Limbaugh and others are saying.

00:09:56.000 Why, the abuse is just abuse.

00:09:59.000 It's just fraternity fun.

00:10:01.000 The people in the prisons should find themselves lucky to be under such treatment.

00:10:06.000 Folks, they're actually out there saying it.

00:10:08.000 It's not just Lord Limbaugh, the king of socialism and lies.

00:10:12.000 I'm serious when I say that, by the way.

00:10:13.000 See, everything's the opposite of what you believe it to be.

00:10:16.000 But now we have senators, two of them now, popping off about how it's just fraternal fun.

00:10:23.000 So I guess when someone is raped brutally in your town or beaten to death, you can just say, hey, just fraternity fun.

00:10:30.000 What's all the hubbub?

00:10:32.000 Why are the police even upset about this?

00:10:36.000 Yes, we have now become worse than the Nazis. 0.93

00:10:38.000 I don't mean in total numbers of people killed.

00:10:40.000 The Nazis were very evil.

00:10:41.000 I mean in the fact that we brag about it and say it's good.

00:10:45.000 The Nazis didn't do that.

00:10:47.000 We have broken new ground.

00:10:48.000 I personally am just totally amazed by this.

00:10:53.000 Rumsfeld and the firing line.

00:10:55.000 It was a Gamble, but as he spoke confidently to an audience of whooping soldiers, it looked like Donald Rumsfeld's surprise trip to Iraq paid off.

00:11:04.000 The Bush administration hoped the visit would stanch the bleeding from the Abu Ghraib affair and change the story, ending the questions over Mr. Rumsfeld's future.

00:11:13.000 This week's revelations in the New Yorker change that completely.

00:11:17.000 Far from being an isolated case of ill-disciplined United States soldiers abusing their Iraqi charges, the article portrays the Abu Ghraib as abuse as part of a wider plan to humiliate Iraqi prisoners using techniques perfected in Afghanistan.

00:11:31.000 Mr. Rumsfeld is credited with taking the decision to expand the secret program on interrogations.

00:11:39.000 Folks, I need to hire the interns to do this because I can't work anymore, but I have an entire room full of tapes, video tapes.

00:11:51.000 During the war, for the weeks up to it and the weeks during it, the big combat operations of last year, I mean, I probably got, I don't know, a hundred tapes just from that.

00:12:02.000 At some point, I had three televisions with VCRs running, taping three different channels.

00:12:08.000 And I've got Rumsfeld on tape in press conferences bragging about torture.

00:12:12.000 You all saw him!

00:12:14.000 You all read it in the newspaper, remember?

00:12:16.000 I need to get those clips and have somebody watch all of this.

00:12:22.000 And get this together, because he said they were torturing him.

00:12:25.000 He said it was good.

00:12:26.000 It was in all the editorials.

00:12:27.000 I mean, hundreds and hundreds of them, all over the newspapers, all over TV.

00:12:32.000 We all saw them.

00:12:33.000 It's in my videos, how torture's good, and the White House's torture's good, and Bush's comments.

00:12:38.000 I mean, I've got that in two of my latest videos.

00:12:40.000 I've got the news articles and video clips where they're on TV saying torture's great.

00:12:44.000 But we need Rumsfeld at these press conferences, and I've got it all.

00:12:49.000 Oh my, it's a sea of evidence, and then, oh no, we, this is isolated, and now we have the CIA training manuals from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and 90s, right through Afghanistan two years ago, admitting all of this.

00:13:06.000 So it's not debatable.

00:13:08.000 Our government has camps.

00:13:10.000 In Cuba, camps in Egypt, camps in Jordan, camps in Iraq, camps in Afghanistan, camps, camps, camps, everywhere a camp, here a camp, there a camp, everywhere a camp, camp.

00:13:23.000 Old MacDonald had a concentration camp, E-I-E-I-O, and on this farm he had innocent people, E-I-E-I-O.

00:13:34.000 And a C-130 flying out with terrorists here.

00:13:36.000 A C-130 flying out with terrorists there.

00:13:38.000 Flying out the real CIA terrorists here and there.

00:13:41.000 Everywhere CIA terrorists being protected and paid in gold bars.

00:13:45.000 Old Rumsfeld.

00:13:47.000 E-I-E-I-O.

00:13:47.000 Alright, I'll stop it.

00:13:48.000 It's just getting really ridiculous here.

00:13:52.000 So, Rumsfeld and firing line for clearing abuse of prisoners.

00:13:57.000 And it says, according to interviews with several past and present American intelligence officials, reporter Seymour Hersh, we have that article posted on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

00:14:08.000 The Pentagon's operation, known inside the intelligence community by several code words, included Copper Green, encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing insurgency in Iraq.

00:14:23.000 The program was triggered by frustrated efforts to capture senior Al-Qaeda and Taliban members, the ones you pulled out on C-130s.

00:14:30.000 Hirsch, you reported on that two years ago.

00:14:32.000 In the weeks after the start of U.S.

00:14:35.000 bombings in Afghanistan.

00:14:37.000 See, Hirsch puts out these reports, doesn't combine it all.

00:14:40.000 It's actually Hirsch.

00:14:42.000 Among others, and it's all admitted now, 8,000 Taliban and Al-Qaeda flew out to safety.

00:14:46.000 The actual Arab fighters, then goat herders and shoemakers, cobblers is the term, thrown into the camps, and Brigadier General Bacchus quit over that and said it all happened.

00:14:56.000 Oh my goodness!

00:14:57.000 Under the program, Mr. Hirsch wrote, commandos were given permission to conduct instant interrogations and use force if necessary at secret CIA detention centers scattered around the world.

00:15:07.000 They have the CIA Section Chief in the Washington Post quoting, bragging how they tortured people.

00:15:12.000 Well, the CIA would stand over Egyptians and Jordanians when they would torture people, and it even described, we ought to repost that on the main page, it's in the Torture Archive at InfoWars.com, but we ought to repost that Washington Post article with the CIA Section Chief bragging that not only do we torture them, we do stuff to their children in front of them to get them to answer questions.

00:15:34.000 Yes, torturing children now is a Very Mingalish loving thing to do. 1.00

00:15:40.000 So, uh, Joseph Mingala?

00:15:44.000 Mingalish? 0.96

00:15:46.000 I mean, this is just really getting rich.

00:15:48.000 Uh, last year, Mr. Rumsfeld and Steven Cambone, his Undersecretary of Intelligence, expanded the scope of the Pentagon's program and its methods moved to Abu Ghraib, Mr. Hirsch wrote.

00:16:00.000 Critics say the interrogation rules, first laid out in September after a visit to Iraq by the then-commander of the Pentagon's program and its methods moved to Abu Ghraib, Mr. Hirsch wrote.

00:16:11.000 Again, critics say the interrogation rules, first laid out in September, To the then commander of the prison for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba amounted to green light for abuse.

00:16:24.000 The New Yorker quoted a former intelligence official as saying, they weren't getting anything substantive from the detainees in Iraq.

00:16:29.000 No names, nothing.

00:16:30.000 They just could hang their hat on.

00:16:34.000 Gambone, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence says, I've got to crack this thing and I've Tired of working through the normal chain of command, I've got this apparatus set up, the Black Special Access Program, and I'm going in hot. 1.00

00:16:48.000 So he pulls the switch and the electricity begins flowing last summer and it's working.

00:16:53.000 We're getting a picture of the insurgency in Iraq and the intelligence is flowing into the White House, into the white world. 0.84

00:17:00.000 We're getting good stuff, but we've got more targets, prisoners in Iraq jails, than people can handle them. 0.99

00:17:09.000 And they were told, no rules apply.

00:17:11.000 Torture them.

00:17:12.000 Get the answers. 0.53

00:17:15.000 Rumsfeld authorized prisoner abuse.

00:17:17.000 Another article here about how they did that.

00:17:20.000 And then I want to shift gears here into Berg.

00:17:25.000 Just briefly recapping, Mr. Berg has classic intelligence operative M.O.

00:17:30.000 He's in an Ivy League college.

00:17:32.000 He drops out.

00:17:33.000 Travel the world with high-tech equipment, helping the poor.

00:17:38.000 That's the quiet American out helping everyone and he travels the globe helping everyone and then he's working at Abu Ghraib before that he's being interviewed by the FBI because he wasn't in contact with one but two of the hijackers we now learn the supposed hijackers just accidentally loaning them computers and passwords no big deal and uh... then he ends up being grabbed by the coalition held for thirteen and a half days released the next time we see him his head's being sawed off by LCI ADA well now the Philadelphia News is reporting as well as the Associated Press Berg met with Shady Iraqi there's another strange new twist of the saga of Nick Berg in his final days of Iraq before this savage videotape beheading Berg teamed up in Baghdad with ex

00:18:33.000 Philippine man who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates encouraged by the U.S.

00:18:39.000 government even as he faced deportation for his role in Russian emigre crime ring selling millions of vials used for crack. 0.82

00:18:49.000 Aziz Qadouri, Aziz, also known as Aziz Altim, hooked up earlier this year with a 26-year-old Westchester man to start a small company called Babylon Towers Co.

00:19:04.000 Would install and inspect and repair telecommunications and utility towers.

00:19:07.000 The interview with several news organizations in Baghdad.

00:19:10.000 Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg before his kidnapping and beheading by terrorists possibly linking to Al-Qaeda network.

00:19:20.000 The radio tower contractor had come back to Baghdad after 13-day detainment in Mosul, only to disappear again April 10th.

00:19:27.000 Aziz said that on April 10th, Berg surprised me by calling me at 9 or 10 to say that he found some friends to travel with, but Jordan Berg said he was en route, but Aziz didn't know who or what kind of vehicle they were driving.

00:19:41.000 And Mr. Aziz, they admit, has worked with U.S.

00:19:45.000 intelligence agencies.

00:19:48.000 He's there to tell us when Mr. Burke disappeared too.

00:19:52.000 We'll be back with your calls, a ton of other massive news, cracker chips in your Coca-Cola cans.

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00:24:24.000 And then I'm going to get back into Rumsfeld.

00:24:26.000 I mean, this was all publicly.

00:24:27.000 They were ordering them to torture people.

00:24:29.000 They were in press conferences saying it.

00:24:32.000 And then we see the results of it, and people don't like it, and they go, we never did that, this is psychological warfare, softening us up before they even released all of this, and then having the beheading video to reconfirm all of this and see it's all good, it's a new American value to torture.

00:24:50.000 Then Powell admits CIA wrong on Iraq Mobile Weapons Lab, Powell says, and his His handler began yelling live on TV, shoving the camera on his side, telling Powell to stop giving the interview, and Powell goes, No, it's live!

00:25:07.000 It's live!

00:25:07.000 Stop it!

00:25:08.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:25:09.000 So they thought it was taped.

00:25:12.000 This is the state's nature of things.

00:25:14.000 But Powell admitting no mobile weapons trucks.

00:25:17.000 Of course, that news is over a year old now, but I'm not going to stop the liars from telling the story over and over again.

00:25:24.000 Also, your Coke cans are going to have tracker chips in them.

00:25:26.000 That's Associated Press.

00:25:29.000 Just a bunch of other amazing news.

00:25:31.000 Car bomb kills Iraq Governing Council Chief.

00:25:34.000 One of Chalibi's rivals.

00:25:36.000 Very interesting.

00:25:37.000 But right now, let us go ahead and go to your phone calls.

00:25:42.000 Let's talk to James in New Jersey.

00:25:44.000 James, welcome.

00:25:45.000 How you doing, Alex?

00:25:47.000 Good, my friend.

00:25:48.000 Alex, I love what you're doing with the Prism Planet TV site.

00:25:52.000 Well, thank you.

00:25:52.000 The frequent updates of the stories.

00:25:56.000 One of my favorite things that you did, one of your weekly reports, you referred to Bush as a gangster.

00:26:05.000 And you freeze-framed a video clip of him giving a press conference after he testified.

00:26:13.000 Yes.

00:26:15.000 And the pose you caught him in, God, if he didn't look like the gangster you said he was.

00:26:21.000 Oh, all of them, Tenet!

00:26:24.000 You talk about ready for Hollywood to play the kingpin, that's tenant or armatage.

00:26:28.000 They just drip that arrogant aplomb.

00:26:31.000 Well, you caught them just right at that moment.

00:26:35.000 But it got me to thinking, one thing I'd like to see you do with the site, I'd love to see you do like a media review kind of thing.

00:26:43.000 Like establishment TV, mainstream TV media.

00:26:48.000 Just looking at the way they present the news.

00:26:51.000 Well, we do that sometimes.

00:26:53.000 Actually, in there, we analyze a few reports.

00:26:56.000 Well, maybe you do it in print, but I'm thinking more like using footage, things like that, from the TV broadcast.

00:27:04.000 Well, did you see where I analyzed the ABC News report about the CIA drills of flying planes in the buildings?

00:27:13.000 Yeah, well, probably.

00:27:14.000 It doesn't ring a bell, but I'm sure I've seen it, yeah.

00:27:18.000 Alright, well I appreciate your support and being a member of PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:27:22.000 Anything else on your mind?

00:27:24.000 Well, only a personal question.

00:27:26.000 I'm going to ask it because I don't think I'll ever get a chance to ask you otherwise.

00:27:30.000 How much chess do you play?

00:27:33.000 Pardon me?

00:27:33.000 How much chess do you play?

00:27:35.000 A little bit.

00:27:36.000 I'm not very good at it compared to playing my dad or somebody.

00:27:39.000 Okay, I heard you mention it on a broadcast.

00:27:42.000 Yeah, I know.

00:27:42.000 If I have time, I'll play a game of chess or two.

00:27:44.000 Thanks for the call.

00:27:45.000 I appreciate it, James.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, but the people I play against always prompt me or stomp me.

00:27:52.000 Let's go ahead and talk to... I can't find a lot of people, I guess, kind of at my mid-level of chess.

00:27:57.000 People I know are just too good at it.

00:27:59.000 Let's talk to Linda in Missouri. 0.88

00:28:03.000 Go ahead, Linda.

00:28:03.000 Hello, Alex.

00:28:05.000 Welcome.

00:28:06.000 I'm calling about something in the Kansas City Star on Wednesday, May 12th and the 13th.

00:28:15.000 Okay.

00:28:17.000 of Missouri, Bob Holden, he's the leader, of course, of the Missouri Army National Guard, has demanded an investigation on that Tuesday into reports that guardsmen were assigned to work for a private contractor in Iraq.

00:28:37.000 This private contractor is Kellogg, Braun and Root, alias Powell Burton.

00:28:44.000 That's right, Halliburton has several hundred, no one's really sure, offshore subsidiaries.

00:28:51.000 People ask, well, who controls these private contractors?

00:28:53.000 Well, the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:28:55.000 They are government bodies.

00:28:56.000 It's just the profits go to their owners, who are all former intelligence or current intelligence.

00:29:03.000 And I'd like to see that.

00:29:04.000 So your governor is upset about his troops, the state's military, being used as minions of these people?

00:29:12.000 Absolutely.

00:29:13.000 He has also, on the second article on 513, The Star reports that his complaint by Holden has triggered army inquiries.

00:29:25.000 And the 1221st Transportation Company, they've been asked to ride shotgun with civilian drivers.

00:29:33.000 And they should have military people at their back, not civilians making $80,000 a year tax-free.

00:29:40.000 Well, see, this is the public-private partnership.

00:29:42.000 This is the ultra-fascism.

00:29:46.000 Anything else?

00:29:47.000 I think everyone... Well, stay there.

00:29:48.000 Stay there.

00:29:49.000 We'll come back to you.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:08.000 malik's jones on the gc and radio network just got a call

00:33:26.000 from london searches for young son cancer city star articles that i was

00:33:30.000 aware of I was aware that most of our military is under CIA command, but the guys that run the CIA and the CFR like to make money, so what they do is they control the companies.

00:33:43.000 And then they also command the military through the companies.

00:33:46.000 The real generals and colonels and captains are the private contractors.

00:33:50.000 And then the profits from all of that, the profits of having our troops work as slaves for them, all go back to Halliburton and its hundreds of subsidiaries.

00:34:01.000 So I was aware of that.

00:34:02.000 What I wasn't aware of is that the governor of Missouri there, Linda is saying, and I have no doubt of it, and please email the article to tips and info wars dot com, Or the webmaster over at Prison Planet as well.

00:34:14.000 We'll get those posted.

00:34:16.000 But you were saying that the governor is upset about this and these private contractors.

00:34:20.000 Well, these are the same private contractors we have commanding the troops around in these prisons that the generals aren't even allowed into.

00:34:29.000 And then they blame the generals.

00:34:31.000 Then they have a trial of the generals.

00:34:33.000 And the generals are rightfully found not guilty.

00:34:35.000 And they go, see, we didn't do anything.

00:34:37.000 Well, no, that's compartmentalization.

00:34:39.000 So they go after someone who's innocent on purpose, knowing they'll be found not guilty, and then that diverts the entire public.

00:34:45.000 But finish up what you were saying, Linda.

00:34:48.000 Governor Holden needs some phone calls.

00:34:50.000 Can I get his phone system?

00:34:53.000 Well, you say Governor Holden's calling for an investigation.

00:34:56.000 We should call him and... And thank him!

00:34:58.000 And push him to open this can of snakes that's probably all over the country.

00:35:05.000 Well, I mean, we know that civilian contractors are controlling regular Army National Guard, and that's a good point that the governors... I mean, this is totally illegal, patently corrupt, and everybody should call their governors.

00:35:17.000 So, I mean, this is happening.

00:35:19.000 The part I'm not sure of is, you know, did your governor do this?

00:35:21.000 And I have no doubt that you're telling us the truth.

00:35:23.000 Well, I don't have a fax machine.

00:35:25.000 Oh, I believe you.

00:35:26.000 I mean, I believe what you're saying, Linda.

00:35:29.000 But maybe you can put somebody on a web search of the Kansas City Star?

00:35:34.000 Yeah, I would imagine we can find that.

00:35:35.000 I mean, look, I believe what you're saying.

00:35:37.000 I know they're using the private contractors.

00:35:38.000 I know they're commanding the troops.

00:35:40.000 It's just great news that the Governor is upset about this.

00:35:43.000 Well, I've been asking people on local radio stations to call and thank him.

00:35:48.000 Okay, well, if you want to give the Governor's... Is this the switchboard's number?

00:35:52.000 Well, yes.

00:35:53.000 There is, would be one, area code 573, 751, 3222.

00:36:09.000 Alright, well, Linda, thank you for the call.

00:36:11.000 I appreciate it.

00:36:12.000 George in Illinois.

00:36:14.000 George, go ahead.

00:36:15.000 Hey, Alex.

00:36:16.000 Good to be on the show.

00:36:17.000 Good to talk to you.

00:36:18.000 Go ahead.

00:36:19.000 I have a question for you.

00:36:21.000 I don't know if you saw this on TV.

00:36:24.000 I was watching the Food Network and they had a program called Kitchen of the Future where they were talking about Microsoft having this future home where in the kitchen they have... And then the refrigerator automatically orders the food when you need it.

00:36:39.000 Everything's tracked with RFID.

00:36:41.000 Exactly.

00:36:42.000 I didn't see that show, but I five years ago saw the plans.

00:36:47.000 And of course this will also watch you It will tax you according to how much you're eating.

00:36:52.000 The Agriculture Department has said this.

00:36:54.000 So has Health and Human Services.

00:36:56.000 If your children aren't eating properly, they will dispatch CPS to your home.

00:37:00.000 Already thousands of school districts, thousands of school districts, have put thumb scanners in for children to get school lunches.

00:37:07.000 No cash allowed.

00:37:08.000 Tracking what you buy and do.

00:37:09.000 CPS is dispatched.

00:37:11.000 If your child's not eating properly, this is the total spy grid.

00:37:15.000 Go ahead.

00:37:16.000 Well the thing that really got to me was that it will tell you what product you have out, you know, let's say you take a medicine and you bring it up on the counter and it says Oh, this is a drug interaction, so that might cause health problems.

00:37:32.000 Yes, and it's directly hooked in to whatever grocery store or pharmacy you choose, and then even if you don't have the, quote, smart refrigerator, you have the RFID to begin with with your purchase, so they track you that way in consumption.

00:37:47.000 Well, I'm thinking that, imagine if they decided to change that and say, well, we're going to purposely kill people, so we're going to go ahead and let them react to these drug problems.

00:37:57.000 So, this way we'll say, well, it's not our fault that it happened.

00:38:01.000 You know, it said it right there in the system that, you know, it's bad for you.

00:38:06.000 You shouldn't have taken it.

00:38:07.000 And then, you know, not our fault.

00:38:09.000 No responsibility taken.

00:38:11.000 And this is how it's going to work.

00:38:14.000 My old cell phone finally broke down and died.

00:38:18.000 And I'm going to have it repaired.

00:38:19.000 And I'm told it's going to cost more than getting the new cell phone.

00:38:23.000 You can't buy a cell phone that isn't satellite tracked.

00:38:27.000 No.

00:38:28.000 So they just changed the whole industry.

00:38:30.000 You can't buy a car that doesn't have a satellite tracking system in it.

00:38:33.000 That is the hardware to have the software plugged in at a later date by law, which is now announcing.

00:38:38.000 And it's the same thing with this.

00:38:40.000 You're not going to be able in 5-10 years to buy a refrigerator that doesn't have this in it. 0.96

00:38:47.000 Ridiculous.

00:38:48.000 So, or you go to the grocery store, they're saying they're going to penalize you because if you don't use the smart cart that has a computer in it, that, you know, where you just throw the stuff in and leave, it automatically charges you, there'll be one lane that still has a service person at it, and then they're going to phase that out and force you onto this. 0.82

00:39:09.000 And this is publicly announced.

00:39:11.000 That's how I knew when you mentioned this, exactly what it was.

00:39:14.000 Not because I'm a smart guy, but because I had actually read the documents.

00:39:18.000 Well, I've been reading more on the RFID, like you've been talking about, as well as other people, and the thing that got to me is that they're putting it, like, they're conditioning people to put it in little by little by little by little, so people will take this slowly, And then they're going to say, oh, this is normal.

00:39:35.000 Just like having troops out in the streets.

00:39:37.000 Oh, it's normal.

00:39:38.000 Torture is good.

00:39:39.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:39:41.000 I don't buy into it.

00:39:42.000 That's all.

00:39:43.000 Well, that's because you probably are Al Qaeda-ish. 0.97

00:39:46.000 Oh, I must be Al Qaeda-ish. 0.61

00:39:48.000 Because if I am, I must be a terrorist.

00:39:50.000 You know, I'm trying to find my USA Today.

00:39:52.000 There's actually two of them.

00:39:54.000 One of them here, get chipped.

00:39:56.000 Then, Charged Without Plastic, You Are The Card, a glowing article about how we all need chips.

00:40:02.000 And then here's the other one, ABC News, Soda Can Spies Coca-Cola New Tracker Product.

00:40:11.000 George, great points.

00:40:12.000 Thanks for the call.

00:40:13.000 Let me go ahead and cover the Soda Spy first.

00:40:18.000 This high-tech soda can, used by Coca-Cola in its latest contest, looks and feels like an ordinary Coke can.

00:40:26.000 But this can knows how to call home and tell it where you are in the US.

00:40:32.000 And by the way, Walmart said two years ago, it was in USA Today and they were working with the Defense Department, that all their suppliers had to have this in by 2004 if you were going to be able to sell to them.

00:40:48.000 Now, no one would... people weren't accepting the barcode until 86, when Walmart demanded all suppliers affix this to their products.

00:40:56.000 That caused the universal acceptance of the technology.

00:40:59.000 Walmart has bragged with the Defense Department that they are both demanding this of all their suppliers, and everyone is going to it.

00:41:05.000 It is already in tens of thousands of products.

00:41:09.000 But now it's going to be your, your, your pop can, your soda can.

00:41:14.000 We call every soft drink a Coke can here in Texas.

00:41:17.000 Whatever you call it, it's going to be in that little aluminum can.

00:41:21.000 Soda can spies in the week's cyber shake.

00:41:26.000 We take a look at how one soda company has added a high-tech twist in the war to win over more cola drinkers.

00:41:33.000 Oh, sure.

00:41:34.000 Plus, editors at one magazine try to figure out which gee whiz gadget will... still gets our goat.

00:41:43.000 And it shows the can with a loving Transmitter inside of it.

00:41:48.000 And it says, uh, Summer is just around the corner, and as thoughts turn to vacation and recreation, Coca-Cola has a nifty game of hide-and-seek.

00:41:56.000 It wants to play with soft drink consumers.

00:41:59.000 For its latest sweepstakes, the beverage maker has hidden specially-marked soda cans among the ordinary cans of cola in its cardboard cases, multi-packed.

00:42:08.000 But once consumers find the right can, the game turns where the hunter becomes the hunted.

00:42:13.000 In order to deliver the prize, Coca-Cola has to find the winner.

00:42:16.000 And it does so with the can itself.

00:42:19.000 See, it's so much fun to be to be tracked.

00:42:21.000 Let's play hide and seek, can we?

00:42:25.000 We're your friends, you can trust us.

00:42:28.000 Each winner can, which has the same heft and weight as an ordinary pop can, is really stuffed with electronic guts of a cell phone and global positioning system tracker.

00:42:39.000 On the outside of the can are a button, microphone, and tiny speaker.

00:42:45.000 What you do is press the big red button and start the game in process.

00:42:48.000 And again, Pepsi actually did this last year.

00:42:52.000 So, this is not new.

00:42:54.000 This is all conditioning.

00:42:56.000 Here's another one.

00:42:57.000 USA Today.

00:42:58.000 Again, I said years ago they were going to sell us this as glamorous and cool and cutting edge.

00:43:03.000 And your children, when you refuse to let them have the chip, will scream at you and run off with their friends at midnight and go to the tattoo parlor where they'll be licensed implanters, which they are now using them for that counterculture, fake counterculture movement.

00:43:16.000 And you show up there and you get your chip.

00:43:18.000 And I don't care what you say.

00:43:19.000 There's a new law.

00:43:20.000 I'm allowed to have the chip.

00:43:21.000 It's my freedom.

00:43:22.000 You can't stop me.

00:43:26.000 That's how it's being sold, as we said it would be.

00:43:28.000 Get chipped!

00:43:29.000 Then charge without plastic.

00:43:31.000 You are the card.

00:43:34.000 And it says, for instance, there's the important and deeply scientific experiment being conducted among the barely clothed patrons of the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona.

00:43:41.000 We broke that story months ago.

00:43:44.000 They're getting electronic Credit cards implanted under the skin.

00:43:47.000 Beautiful club goers.

00:43:48.000 See, they're beautiful.

00:43:49.000 They're geniuses.

00:43:52.000 Beautiful club goers have a problem. 1.00

00:43:54.000 If you're going to wear a halter top and micro skirt, there's not much of anywhere to put a wallet.

00:44:02.000 And who wants to carry a purse when there's time to dance? 0.99

00:44:06.000 Luckily, a company called Verichip this year unveiled a solution based on radio frequency identification technology.

00:44:14.000 It's a slender glass capsule about as long as a dime is wide.

00:44:20.000 Inside sits a computer chip which stores unique code that can identify an individual, sort of an electronic social security number.

00:44:28.000 The capsule also holds tiny antennae, which are radio code to receive many feet away.

00:44:33.000 At the Baja Beach Club Tuesdays are Verichip implantation days.

00:44:37.000 Yeah!

00:44:38.000 Yeah, baby! 1.00

00:44:40.000 You stop in and a nurse at the club's ward, of course in a beautiful outfit, uses a syringe to inject a varrochip capsule under your skin.

00:44:52.000 There.

00:44:53.000 That doesn't seem to be any rules about where on the body it has to be placed.

00:44:58.000 If you think that sounds like something you'd never do, you're not the kind of person who goes to clubs wearing your beset nose ring.

00:45:07.000 See, this is only for the trendies.

00:45:11.000 Oh, that's lovely.

00:45:13.000 Once implanted, you become your own credit card.

00:45:16.000 Need to pay for a drink?

00:45:18.000 Wave your implant, ooh, it's so cool, near a radar, and you're done.

00:45:24.000 Verichip has dreams of going global with its human implantable ID technology.

00:45:30.000 Once implanted, you could wave a body part to pay for a burger at Wendy's, a beer at a baseball game, or whatever.

00:45:39.000 I remember reading the Army War College in 2000 going, people will submit to this if we use PR.

00:45:46.000 Through the media, if we sell it as stylish and cool, the entire global population will have it.

00:45:51.000 By 2025, they will accept brain chips.

00:45:53.000 We will control them with it.

00:45:55.000 The hive mind will be complete.

00:45:56.000 The military's main job will be the brain implantation control centers.

00:46:01.000 Once everyone's under our control, total global power will be real.

00:46:04.000 I mean, it's just literally like some scary science fiction novel nightmare.

00:46:09.000 But it's just out in the open.

00:46:11.000 We're going to sell it to them through Hollywood and the media.

00:46:13.000 We're going to sell it as stylish and cool.

00:46:15.000 They will submit to us.

00:46:17.000 I mean, think about this.

00:46:20.000 And here it is.

00:46:24.000 And then they get into how great it is, page after page, and it'll save the firefighters, it'll save the police, and they'll retina scan us to start our cars, and everything will be tracked.

00:46:34.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:46:36.000 Page after page after page after page after page of them telling us how wonderful it is.

00:46:43.000 Day after day, article after article, everywhere.

00:46:46.000 It's totally normal.

00:46:47.000 It's totally cool.

00:46:49.000 Everybody's got to have it.

00:46:50.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:46:53.000 And yuppies who don't have any social conscience, who don't have any bearing in life, the young people out there, the trendies, the stylish soccer moms, are going to get it.

00:47:05.000 They are getting it.

00:47:06.000 And we had the very chip distributor on.

00:47:08.000 He said, oh yes, everyone will have to have it globally to buy and sell.

00:47:10.000 That's our plan.

00:47:11.000 The Italian government's about to make their whole population take it. 0.78

00:47:14.000 All their government people.

00:47:16.000 There's a move to make the police take it.

00:47:17.000 And gun owners.

00:47:18.000 And I think you have to have it to have a gun.

00:47:20.000 And this is our plan.

00:47:21.000 Ha ha ha!

00:47:22.000 Openly talking about making you take it.

00:47:24.000 Just submit to it.

00:47:26.000 And then he said on the show, he goes, the chip will prevail.

00:47:29.000 He started laughing.

00:47:31.000 I said, did you say that to the newspaper over in Barcelona?

00:47:33.000 He goes, yes, yes, the chip will prevail.

00:47:37.000 Go ahead and accept it.

00:47:38.000 It's so much fun.

00:47:40.000 Everybody wants it.

00:47:42.000 Just go along with it.

00:47:43.000 Embrace it.

00:47:44.000 Don't be a square.

00:47:45.000 Daddy-o.

00:47:49.000 So, my friend, within two years, your children will be secretly implanted, running off to get them.

00:47:56.000 I mean, you're a 14-year-old child and you get an abortion without telling you in most states, so don't think they're not going to get the chip.

00:48:02.000 Oh, it's so stylish.

00:48:03.000 Don't listen to your parents.

00:48:05.000 Oh, it's so cool.

00:48:06.000 You can't get more.

00:48:07.000 Counterculture. 1.00

00:48:08.000 Oh yeah, very counterculture being a Pentagon idiot. 1.00

00:48:11.000 A Pentagon minion. 1.00

00:48:13.000 And my cousin a year ago, over for coffee, said within two years we're all getting chips.

00:48:17.000 We were told in a briefing by an officer, hundreds of them in the room, told you're all getting chips.

00:48:24.000 Chips, chips, chips.

00:48:25.000 We're just calmly talking about chips.

00:48:27.000 No big deal.

00:48:31.000 And a bunch of states are announcing a federal plan to start satellite tracking and taxing you to drive your car.

00:48:36.000 It's no big deal.

00:48:39.000 And Mr. Berg, it turns out, was working with U.S.

00:48:41.000 intelligence agency operatives over there and shadowy activities.

00:48:47.000 People known for their Russian Mafia connections and drug trafficking, and he was at Abu Ghraib working on the cell towers and in custody of the globalists and in and around hijackers, but I'm sure he's not with any intelligence agency, and I'm sure that video's real.

00:49:03.000 Mr. Berg isn't basking in the Maui sun, his debt to society paid in full.

00:49:10.000 And now Mad Dog Ben Richards can try to pay his debt here on The Running Man.

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00:49:20.000 Let's cut to that video now, showing the brutal slayer of 15 men, women, and children, the Butcher of Bakersfield, Mad Dog Ben Richards, and his lover, his confederate! 0.50

00:49:34.000 Okay, if you haven't seen The Running Man, you don't know what I'm talking about.

00:49:39.000 We are now coming to that point.

00:49:44.000 Flaunting it in our face.

00:49:49.000 Oh, help us.

00:49:50.000 Help us, God.

00:49:52.000 We are actually entering the beast system.

00:49:55.000 And the preachers are telling you, the chip isn't the mark of the beast.

00:49:57.000 It's not a problem.

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00:50:08.000 This means the end is near.

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00:50:15.000 There's no problem.

00:50:18.000 Bush is anointed of God when he's not at Skull and Bones or Bohemian Grove or Chento Shrines.

00:50:25.000 He is a godly man, they say, who we can trust and who we can love. 0.99

00:50:31.000 His cousin Kerry is the devil!

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00:54:27.000 But to see all this unfolding exactly as the globalists said it would, and to watch people... You know, you're a cook to talk about implantable chips five years ago.

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00:56:48.000 Right now, let's go ahead and go to Brock in Canada.

00:56:52.000 Brock, go ahead.

00:56:52.000 Welcome.

00:56:53.000 Hello, Alex.

00:56:54.000 Good to hear from you.

00:56:56.000 I just wondered, with this prisoner abuse scandal and this sort of thing, it looks like Lord Kerry is going to be the front-runner, so I'm wondering if the globalists want Bush or Kerry, because if they want Bush, there might be another attack they might be conjuring up.

00:57:18.000 Well, you know, you have to look at the fact that it doesn't matter.

00:57:21.000 All the key cities are now under touchscreen, federally paid for, CIA-controlled publicly.

00:57:26.000 Electronic voting systems, Bush and Carrier buddies, this is all staged.

00:57:30.000 This is staged at multiple levels.

00:57:32.000 The voting itself, the candidates who are cousins, members of the same secret society.

00:57:37.000 Then on top of that, they'll carry out terror to legitimize the next ratcheting up phase of police state.

00:57:46.000 What is the next phase?

00:57:48.000 Police state level, do you think?

00:57:51.000 Is it going to be more control of people's lives?

00:57:53.000 It's going to be the Caps 2 system, to start your car, to have a job, to walk down the street, showing papers everywhere, police beating folks up, legitimizing it, torture of American citizens, all crimes being listed as acts of terror, just a whole new level, probably a bio-release, and then a shutdown of a whole region to demonstrate how good martial law is.

00:58:15.000 That's the next phase.

00:58:16.000 When do you see this coming in in the next three to five years?

00:58:20.000 Oh, most assuredly unless we stop them.

00:58:23.000 Well, I think that people are waking up.

00:58:27.000 You've done some excellent work and getting a lot of people online and that's why I think that the chip intentions they have may be slowed down and impeded because of the good work you've been doing.

00:58:42.000 Well, thank you.

00:58:43.000 It's because of your good work as well.

00:58:44.000 They're going to have a lot of trouble selling it.

00:58:46.000 They're going to sell it to our children.

00:58:47.000 We'll be right back.

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01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:14.000 Already into the second hour of global transmission.

01:00:24.000 Major developments in the torture scandal.

01:00:28.000 Lord Rumsfeld publicly ordered the torture, bragged about it on TV.

01:00:31.000 Now the documents themselves have come forward in eyewitness testimony.

01:00:36.000 Nicholas Berg and his intelligence EMO is becoming more and more clear.

01:00:41.000 Big developments there.

01:00:43.000 Your coke cans tracking and tracing you and then you're hunted down by people and it's A real cute.

01:00:49.000 Also, they have the Aquafina things where the surveillance blimps follow you around.

01:00:53.000 This is all part of the training that it's fun to be tracked and traced.

01:00:58.000 Big USA Today article saying all of us need our chips.

01:01:01.000 It's so cool.

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01:01:07.000 And we've got Paul Watson joining us, and we're going to take a lot of calls early in this hour.

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01:01:22.000 Thank you for joining us, Paul.

01:01:24.000 A lot to cover on the plate today.

01:01:26.000 We haven't even scratched the surface.

01:01:28.000 Good to have you riding shotgun with us.

01:01:30.000 Good to be on again, Alex.

01:01:32.000 We're getting a lot of things done, a lot of people are waking up, so the establishment is just trying to legitimize all their tyranny by bringing it out in plain view.

01:01:41.000 What are some of the top stories we're going to be covering in the next hour?

01:01:44.000 Well, obviously the Berg thing, because a few more things have emerged about the video and the circumstances surrounding it over the weekend.

01:01:54.000 The torture scandal has deepened, in fact, but not in the US, because the US media isn't reporting on what the big mainstream German media is reporting on, which is Iraqis tortured to death.

01:02:07.000 Also, the sacking of Piers Morgan, the editor of the Mirror newspaper in London, who were at the forefront of basically blowing the whistle on numerous examples of government corruption and cover-ups.

01:02:20.000 And with that story, that's interesting because I remember telling you, you know, these images. 0.65

01:02:25.000 You have all these admitted images of beating people to death, raping people. 0.69

01:02:29.000 This is all admitted. 0.96

01:02:30.000 Then they put out fake porno pictures, then fake other pictures.

01:02:33.000 Troops bring these to the Mirror, tell the story, the Mirror post it, then they absolve the entire British military of torture saying, oh look, it's fake.

01:02:44.000 A classic tactic.

01:02:45.000 Well yeah, just before we get into the Mirror thing, you mentioned those Porn photos which were taken from porn websites then posted on Arab websites and claimed to be authentic.

01:02:58.000 Interestingly enough, the Boston Globe published those photos days after they'd been denounced as fakes.

01:03:06.000 Everybody knew they were fakes and yet the Boston Globe still published them.

01:03:10.000 Then the day after... And we never did.

01:03:12.000 We said they were fake day one.

01:03:14.000 Yeah.

01:03:15.000 And we said they would then bring it out and say, oh look, it's all discredited when it's admitted this is going on.

01:03:20.000 Yeah, and they actually apologized.

01:03:21.000 The newspaper apologized the day after.

01:03:23.000 So why would they knowingly print fake photos?

01:03:26.000 Well, it's to, you know, try and discredit from the real rape, which is contained in the military report.

01:03:33.000 So that whole Boston Globe thing smells like a setup to me.

01:03:37.000 With the mirror thing, the sacking of Piers Morgan, it was interesting.

01:03:43.000 I actually got the word a week before it happened that Morgan was about to go from Shrimpton, who was on the show talking about the Kelly murder, so that increases his credibility.

01:03:55.000 We've got the mirror, which was a former Labour Party mouthpiece, basically.

01:04:00.000 About two years ago, it turned on the government ...and started reporting accurately the civilian casualties in Iraq, blowing the whistle on the fact that Princess Diana was murdered, and of course this torture scandal.

01:04:14.000 But as with the Hutton inquiry in the BBC, where the BBC was blamed for concocting a story about the unreliability of the government's WMD dossiers, The story itself is true, but the government takes a minutiae of that story, declares it to be false, and then grandstands saying that it's vindicated and that the government never lied.

01:04:36.000 So we've got the same thing with the case of the mirror.

01:04:40.000 Amazing levels of spin.

01:04:41.000 We'll get into all of it when we get back.

01:04:43.000 The latest Berg developments, the latest torture developments, the latest Big Brother developments, and your call.

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01:08:06.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:08:07.000 Every week, usually on Monday, we have Paul Watson up to go over the news with us.

01:08:11.000 And I know that we've got a cornucopia of callers we'll be going to here in a few minutes.

01:08:17.000 Paul, let's go over, recap the Berg developments, Nicholas Berg, And the obvious intelligence agency connections here, those can no longer be denied.

01:08:25.000 You'd be a conspiracy theorist to deny this.

01:08:29.000 They don't want to get into the latest torture developments with Lord Rumsfeld.

01:08:32.000 And then we'll get into how they're trying to spin this and deal with this.

01:08:36.000 We now have another senator coming out and mirroring the comments of Lord Limbaugh.

01:08:43.000 The ultra-liberal socialist, saying that this is just fraternal fun, torturing these people, no big deal.

01:08:52.000 We may air that Limbaugh clip one more time, just so folks can hear it, but now we have the Senator, we actually have that video clip.

01:08:58.000 Ooh, Stephanie, you ought to go grab that. 0.99

01:08:59.000 You ought to tell Stephanie where that is on PrisonPlanet.tv and play the Senator saying that, but Paul, let's launch into Berg.

01:09:09.000 Okay, well, everyone knows I basically live on the Internet, so I know when a story's out there, and this one's out there, the fact that these anomalies do exist.

01:09:18.000 Because the hits to our websites have doubled since last Tuesday and basically have remained steady with all these hundreds of websites linking to our different Berg pages that we've set up.

01:09:31.000 And actually on last night's Drudge radio program, a caller called in and raised the Berg execution and all these anomalies that we've been pointing out.

01:09:40.000 PluggedinfoWars.com and Drudge's response was that basically he'd seen the evidence but he didn't think it was staged, but at least You know, we know that we're being noticed with this.

01:09:51.000 You mean, he admitted that he'd seen the evidence?

01:09:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:55.000 The caller mentioned Infowars.com and Drudge said he'd seen it.

01:09:58.000 Well, he's the big man not to delete it out.

01:10:01.000 The other big shows do that.

01:10:03.000 Now, let's go back here for just a second, if we can.

01:10:07.000 Let's go over the Berg evidence.

01:10:08.000 Who Berg is, the classic intelligence MO, and then now the latest developments.

01:10:13.000 Go over that for them, Paul.

01:10:15.000 Well, now I think there's approaching about 50 anomalies just with the video itself.

01:10:20.000 Some of them might be explainable.

01:10:23.000 I mean, the red herring in my view is everyone screaming about the fact that military time is used on the video when almost every video camera in the world uses military timing.

01:10:32.000 So we've got these different red herrings that we need to ignore.

01:10:36.000 But the bullet point issues of the Berg video are that He worked at Abu Ghraib Prison.

01:10:43.000 The standard-issue white chairs and the decor in the Abu Ghraib photos match exactly the execution scene.

01:10:50.000 Berg was wearing a US military-issue orange jumpsuit, like the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

01:10:58.000 The audio from the first clip where Berg introduces himself is different from the execution scene.

01:11:04.000 Um, Zarqawi, the man blamed for the execution, according to MSNBC, died three months ago, and even if it was him, he would have a pronounced lymph, because we know that he had an artificial leg.

01:11:17.000 Um, there was very little blood seen when the execution took place, and doctors around the world have said that this is simply not possible, you know, one and a half gallons of blood in the head alone, according to doctors.

01:11:29.000 Either, you know, Berg had already been dead, or they were using some kind of mannequin.

01:11:34.000 Um, the five Arabs seen on the video, or CIA rabs as I call them, are fat, um, they're bloated, pale white skin, from what you can see on some of them. 1.00

01:11:46.000 Some of them are in military stances, and obviously this is the opposite of how you would expect Arabs who had been on the, uh, been on the run for nearly three years would appear.

01:11:56.000 One of the Arabs wears a gold ring, which is forbidden in Islamic law, and not only that, he's wearing it on his left hand, which is supposedly, according to Muslim doctrine, the evil hand. 0.99

01:12:08.000 You know, the hand only reserved for things like toilet cleaning.

01:12:12.000 The statement read out does not mention Al-Qaeda, and that was purposefully misinterpreted and added in by the US government to create this phony Al-Qaeda link.

01:12:24.000 Um, the Arabs who view the tape say that the accent of the speaker, who is supposed to be Zarqawi, who is Jordanian, sounds more like, um, Egyptian or other Arab dialect.

01:12:35.000 And there's also clearly a Western voice saying, I will be done on the tape.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, Western Voices at the end of the tape.

01:12:41.000 And let's go back to him working at Abu Ghraib, a main prison.

01:12:46.000 He drops out of an Ivy League school with good grades, where they recruit people.

01:12:50.000 That's where they recruit these Ivy League for Intelligence. 0.99

01:12:52.000 He, quote, has this classic M.O.

01:12:54.000 of a helper with technology, the quiet American, all over the world.

01:12:58.000 And then he's captured for thirteen and a half days by Western forces, which is now admitted and confirmed, which they tried to lie about, but now got caught with the emails and the FBI now admitting it.

01:13:09.000 On top of this now, the latest development out of the Philadelphia News, Berg met with shady Iraqi. 1.00

01:13:14.000 There's another strange new twist to the saga of Nick Berg and his final days of Iraq.

01:13:18.000 Before his savage videotape beheading, Berg teamed up in Baghdad with ex-Philippine man who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates encouraged by the U.S.

01:13:29.000 government, i.e.

01:13:30.000 CIA, even as he faced deportation for his role in Russian Crime ring selling millions of vials used for crack. 0.65

01:13:40.000 Aziz Khadori Aziz, also known as Aziz Al-Taiyya, hooked up earlier this year with a 26-year-old Western Chester man to start a small company called the Babylon Towers Company, install and inspect, repair telecommunications and utility towers.

01:13:59.000 And in interviews with several news organizations in Baghdad, Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg. 0.80

01:14:07.000 Very, very, uh, stinky.

01:14:10.000 And on top of this, we have Berg now not with one, but with two of the hijackers, with his passcodes being investigated by the FBI.

01:14:19.000 But his dad says that just on buses and stuff, he would hand people his computer and magically give them his passcode, Paul.

01:14:28.000 Well, what does this tell us?

01:14:29.000 Does it tell us that because Berg was involved with all these CIA rabs that, you know, he was their guy, did they turn on him? 0.79

01:14:38.000 Or is the video a complete hoax?

01:14:41.000 And is he right now basking in the Maui Sun?

01:14:43.000 Well, yeah, some people have pointed out that the individual on the video Doesn't look like Burke hasn't got his bills, etc.

01:14:51.000 So, I mean, did they use a different person?

01:14:54.000 Did they use a mannequin?

01:14:55.000 Who knows?

01:14:55.000 I don't know!

01:14:56.000 They create fake videos of fat bin Ladens taking credit, later admit it's fake, but then nobody investigates why they put out a fake. 0.87

01:15:03.000 Fake letters in the newspapers with false signatures from troops, fake Niger documents, fake mobile weapons trucks, fake mass graves, fake... on and on and on, Paul.

01:15:12.000 I don't know.

01:15:13.000 We've got a government that will put uranium in children's cereal at public school to see what it does to them. 0.82

01:15:18.000 They wouldn't kill somebody.

01:15:20.000 No, they're not like that.

01:15:21.000 They're very loving in the New World Order. 0.95

01:15:24.000 They didn't let black men die and spread syphilis over 45 years! 0.75

01:15:28.000 They didn't give uranium to pregnant women! 1.00

01:15:30.000 They didn't release biologicals in the New York subway, killing people!

01:15:35.000 This is a government that can be totally trusted, that loves human life, Paul!

01:15:39.000 Oh no, governments never lied.

01:15:41.000 Blair's never lied about anything ever, according to their own statements.

01:15:46.000 But, yeah, it's interesting.

01:15:48.000 Is it Berg or is it a different person?

01:15:51.000 But the other anomalies, as I mentioned on Friday, the AK-47s One of them, at least, is carrying actually a Jilal model, which is Israeli-made. 0.82

01:16:00.000 Of course, the U.S.

01:16:02.000 government tried to lie by saying that Berg was never in U.S.

01:16:05.000 custody, and then the family released the ambassador's email saying that it was an attempt, you know.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, but here's the spin.

01:16:14.000 And again, you know, the proper scientific Latin term for a dog, a domesticated dog, Fido, whatever, may it be a dachshund or a Bulldog is, what is it, caninus familiaris.

01:16:27.000 So this is what they did.

01:16:29.000 They said, we never had him in custody.

01:16:33.000 We never had a dog.

01:16:35.000 We had a caninus familiaris.

01:16:38.000 So in their statements they say, we never had him.

01:16:41.000 Our Iraqi provisional government did.

01:16:43.000 Yes, the FBI interviewed him.

01:16:44.000 And yes, troops did.

01:16:45.000 But that was under the control of the Iraqis.

01:16:46.000 We didn't control him.

01:16:49.000 It's like saying, your name's not really Paul.

01:16:54.000 It's an incredible lie.

01:16:57.000 They admit they had him in custody, but then say the Iraqis really had him.

01:17:00.000 Go ahead.

01:17:01.000 Well, it's the same with the British government.

01:17:03.000 They take the minutiae details.

01:17:05.000 You know, say that three torture photos are false, even though it's admitted that the torture went on.

01:17:12.000 They still say that it's all a lie because these three photos take the minutiae of it.

01:17:17.000 But the timing of the release of the video is very interesting.

01:17:21.000 5-11.

01:17:23.000 After the Spain momming of 3-11 and of course 9-11, the question of why Berg's body, who is obviously a civilian, or according to them is a civilian, was flown to Dover Air Force Base, which is of course on clampdown to prevent the media from filming the coffin.

01:17:43.000 So why was Berg a civilian taken to an Air Force base?

01:17:46.000 Why was Berg's family and anyone else prevented from seeing the body or the coffin?

01:17:51.000 Were they making sure that the body Fitted the cover story.

01:17:57.000 And I mean, the reaction is predictable from neocons.

01:18:01.000 Trying to justify the torture which came out previously by saying, you know, we humiliated a few people but at least we didn't kill anyone.

01:18:10.000 Well, besides the fact that it's now admitted that prisoners were tortured to death, what do you call the murder of, you know, approaching 50,000 innocent Iraqis during the war?

01:18:21.000 You know, doesn't that count as murder?

01:18:25.000 Despite the fact that the video, as we've proven, is full of holes, the media just parrot the official line.

01:18:31.000 They don't even investigate the video itself, because on one level, because the news cycle is so hot and they're bombarded by news on a daily basis, Either they're too lazy or too overwhelmed to even look into the details of the video.

01:18:46.000 So they just take what the official spokesperson says and then repeat it ad infinitum.

01:18:52.000 So this is why we're here talking about it.

01:18:53.000 Well, they're still saying that it's this Al-Qaeda leader who's got one leg and who MSNBC, the government said, was dead three months ago.

01:19:01.000 I mean, it's like the Fat Bin Laden tape. 0.87

01:19:03.000 It later comes out it's fake, but then there's no discussion of it.

01:19:07.000 Well, exactly, and they use these Supposed captures of Al-Qaeda leaders again and again.

01:19:13.000 Yeah, they capture people three, four, five times, kill them two or three times, kill them again a month later, kill them again, and they're involved in more attacks on us.

01:19:20.000 I mean, it's great!

01:19:22.000 Well, there's three other examples.

01:19:23.000 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

01:19:25.000 He'd been dead before they announced his capture, but now they're using him to fearmonger about what Al-Qaeda are going to do.

01:19:31.000 They're doing the same thing with Al Zawahiri.

01:19:34.000 Supposedly on these, you know, these new Bin Laden videotapes that always come out. 0.58

01:19:38.000 Yeah, he was captured in February 2002.

01:19:40.000 So, they use these Arabs all the time. 1.00

01:19:44.000 And they think so little of us, they don't even come up with a new name. 0.98

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01:23:51.000 Alright, I want to get into oil prices.

01:24:03.000 I want to get into the police state.

01:24:05.000 There's been a lot of new developments there.

01:24:06.000 I want to get into this tactic of trying to condition us to accept torture.

01:24:12.000 The latest info on Rumsfeld ordering the torture, which is already public, but now coming out in the mainstream media.

01:24:19.000 But first, let's go ahead and go to some calls, Paul.

01:24:21.000 Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:24:23.000 John, Fred, William, George, Delilah, and others.

01:24:27.000 Lila, don't come after my hair with those scissors. 0.98

01:24:29.000 I'm just joking.

01:24:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.

01:24:33.000 John, you're on the air.

01:24:34.000 Go ahead.

01:24:36.000 Alex?

01:24:37.000 Yes.

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01:24:39.000 Okay, fine.

01:24:40.000 Go ahead.

01:24:40.000 A lot of people don't really understand that once you take that microchip and total control comes, there's no way you're going to be able to organize any kind of resistance against them.

01:24:50.000 But USA Today says it's so stylish the young people all are going to want it.

01:24:55.000 It's so cool.

01:24:55.000 You can't get into the topless bar unless you have one.

01:24:58.000 Let's get a comment from Paul Watson on this.

01:25:01.000 Paul?

01:25:02.000 Well, yeah, they're trying to make it cool by phasing it in with the nightclubs and that takes care of, you know, 20-somethings.

01:25:11.000 And then for younger people, they'll phase it in.

01:25:14.000 And we had the reports last year, both in Britain and America, Tagging footballers, both soccer players in this country and, you know, footballers in America, to track their progress on the playing field.

01:25:26.000 And so, they're going to phase it in by saying it's cool, by having it with the footballers, so then the younger generation will identify with that, and then want the chip as well.

01:25:35.000 Well, what I was trying to say is that, uh, there are a lot of people who think we're going to, you know, when all the total control comes, we'll be able to head to the hills and fight like the French Resistance.

01:25:43.000 We'll be able to track every move you make, you'll stamp you out.

01:25:46.000 You decide you're going to flee from the New World Order, you could go to the wilds of the Amazon or up to Canada, they'd still be able to track you.

01:25:52.000 There'd be no escaping them.

01:25:54.000 Well, that's the thing that any supplies you bought to leave with are going to have RFID in it, and they'll know because your RFID will be trackable because it'll be moving.

01:26:05.000 That's all I got, Alex.

01:26:06.000 Alright, good to hear from you.

01:26:08.000 This is control nobody ever even thought of in a science fiction movie.

01:26:12.000 This is light years ahead of 1984.

01:26:15.000 And it's just happening.

01:26:16.000 We cannot accept this.

01:26:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Fred in Philadelphia.

01:26:21.000 Fred, go ahead.

01:26:22.000 Hi, Alex.

01:26:23.000 Hello.

01:26:24.000 I wanted to bring up something that ties in with media censorship and the way that story broke about the torture of prisoners.

01:26:36.000 Did you ever hear of something called the Nixon Monarch of 1948?

01:26:38.000 No.

01:26:38.000 Well, it prohibits a 12-year ban On rebroadcasting or repeating anything that the USIA or intelligence community sends out as a foreign broadcast.

01:26:55.000 And it has been used, but as far as this particular scandal is concerned, the way the story broke that I had heard on the radio was that when the story broke, the government had asked big media not to Uh, not to, uh, report on the, uh, uh, abuse and... Yeah, they asked CBS to hold off a few weeks.

01:27:23.000 Right, they asked them, and I think that, uh, in doing that, I think the government has been able to manage uh... the media and this may be well the same military industrial complex that owns the media owns the military and owns the whole system so it's not like a they're having to manage it they're staging it they're releasing we're via the alternative media we're forcing them to release more and more so they can try to put their spin on it and i don't think they're using that uh... particular act you talk about to block people from releasing this because it's it's coming out of a thousand different sources they have lost control thanks for the call

01:28:03.000 First of all, I want to compliment you on your article in Global Outlook on the Secret Patriot Act 2.

01:28:09.000 You had an article in Spring 2003, and Patriot 2, a big slice of it, was signed into law in 1503, by President Bush.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, the same day they announced the Saddam capture, so that smoke screened it, and he had a signing of the intelligence bill, that's what it was called, secretly.

01:28:33.000 He normally has public signings, but this was done in secret.

01:28:36.000 Yeah, and the other thing is, another magazine called Covert Action Quarterly, and I believe it was spring or summer, the cover of the magazine was produced showing A Iraqi prisoner being humiliated.

01:28:50.000 A hooded Iraqi prisoner being humiliated.

01:28:51.000 Yeah, this is all old news.

01:28:52.000 Thank you for the call.

01:28:54.000 Paul, comments?

01:28:55.000 Well, yeah, CBS did hold the tortured photos for two weeks.

01:29:00.000 The question is, I mean, we've been reporting on it for two, three years.

01:29:04.000 Was it a deliberate attempt to bottleneck the information so it would all come out at once and overwhelm people?

01:29:10.000 That's what I see going on.

01:29:13.000 So, yeah, they released it all at once and it was just a slurry of information.

01:29:17.000 Yeah, while they were telling CBS to hold back, Berg was getting grabbed and the beheading being prepared.

01:29:24.000 Exactly.

01:29:26.000 And so they bring all the torture out, then legitimize it with the Berg getting his head cut off, that tragic video if it's even real, then it legitimizes it all.

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01:33:11.000 I want to get into Rumsfeld ordering the TOR shirt.

01:33:14.000 He did it on TV!

01:33:15.000 I mean, where are our memories?

01:33:17.000 It's not like it's any big scoop, but I guess it is for those that are now talking about it in the mainstream media.

01:33:25.000 It's like Rumsfeld saying that it's an urban legend, a wild wives tale, that I ever said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was an imminent threat.

01:33:25.000 It's amazing.

01:33:33.000 And they go, oh really?

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01:33:43.000 I mean, that's the level of transparent lies counting on you not being informed.

01:33:49.000 But if the American people ever become informed about politics and the geopolitical system, Like they are about the last episode of Friends, or Frasier, or how the football game's going.

01:34:01.000 It's over for tyranny. 0.99

01:34:02.000 They count on you being ignorant. 0.99

01:34:04.000 That's why Christ said the people perish for lack of knowledge. 0.99

01:34:08.000 That's why they want you dumbed down, not knowing where Iraq is on a map, not knowing who your governor is.

01:34:15.000 Most high school seniors don't know who the vice president is.

01:34:18.000 I mean, that is scary.

01:34:20.000 And I don't get an elitist feeling off of that, some type of sardonic idea off of that.

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01:37:39.000 Paul, let's blitz through these calls, four or five more, then I want to get into the torture with Rumsfeld admitting it.

01:37:45.000 Let's go ahead and talk to William.

01:37:50.000 William is calling us from Oregon.

01:37:53.000 William, go ahead.

01:37:53.000 Morning, Alex.

01:37:55.000 First, I want to say thanks for Prison Planet TV.

01:37:57.000 Great site.

01:37:58.000 Another thing I found on the site the other day I was on, and you might know about this, perhaps because every time I find stuff, I find that you're ahead of the curve.

01:38:07.000 I commend you for that.

01:38:08.000 But on a dollar bill, are you familiar with the fact there's actually an owl on our dollar bill?

01:38:13.000 Yeah, up in the right-hand corner, a little owl looking over the one.

01:38:17.000 I just thought of Bohemian Grove when I ran across it.

01:38:19.000 I go, dude, God, this thing's right under my nose.

01:38:21.000 Well, the Globalist, one of their favorite communications is architecture, too.

01:38:25.000 There's a giant 33-story Owl downtown, complete with a beak and two eyes, and the designer admits it's supposed to be an owl, so... Downtown where?

01:38:37.000 Downtown Austin.

01:38:38.000 Oh, really?

01:38:38.000 You got one down there?

01:38:40.000 The Compass Bank Building, yes.

01:38:41.000 One other thing I was going to say, you know, you basically sum up the Roman period, give the people a little bread and a little circus, and we'll do what we want. 0.51

01:38:48.000 My analogy for that in this day and age of the United States is they give them a Daytona 500 and a Coors Silver Bullet, and they do what they want.

01:38:55.000 And people, like you say, need to wake up, but when you hear these guys that say, Hell yeah, I'm going to vote for George Bush.

01:39:00.000 He's a NASCAR fan.

01:39:01.000 It just goes to show how shallow the pond really is, you know?

01:39:05.000 I mean, we're not exactly at the deep end of the gene pool, it seems like.

01:39:07.000 Yeah, people like to be manipulated.

01:39:09.000 They like it to all be easy.

01:39:11.000 But I'm sorry, folks, the wages of sin are death. 0.97

01:39:13.000 That is, being ignorant, going along with this will destroy you and your family. 0.50

01:39:18.000 Evil is growing at every level.

01:39:20.000 Well, I kind of find out, Alex, in my ventures and talking to people and trying to spread the word as we say for Many, many years since I read None Dare Call a Conspiracy.

01:39:28.000 People don't... They react like a six-year-old does when you tell them there's not a Santa Claus.

01:39:33.000 They just can't.

01:39:34.000 Adamant.

01:39:34.000 But as the globalist abuse more people, the wake-up is growing.

01:39:38.000 That's why they're accelerating the oppression and trying to legitimize it.

01:39:42.000 Thanks for the call.

01:39:43.000 Paul, the acceleration of the wake-up.

01:39:46.000 I've never seen it happen this fast.

01:39:48.000 It's geometrically, month by month, growing.

01:39:51.000 It is all coming to a head, like four locomotives on four tracks converging on a single point at maximum speed.

01:39:58.000 Your take on that?

01:40:00.000 Well, that's exactly the case.

01:40:02.000 Every big event that they pull off, Only brings more people, you know, towards our cause because we expose the fact that most of these big events are psyops, basically.

01:40:12.000 And then they have the tactic of trying to make this information, you know, bog it down in their kind of debase mentality, which is why we've been bombarded by images of torture and beheading and so forth.

01:40:24.000 So they try and turn people off to it by making people sick of it.

01:40:28.000 But I mean, on the other hand, they've bombarded people with images of, um, You know, rape and murder on television for the past 10-15 years, that's an accelerated pace, so maybe that backfired on them as well.

01:40:40.000 But they are trying to bog people down in that mentality where, you know, people resort to moral relativism and say, you know, I don't care what's happening, I can't do anything about it.

01:40:49.000 But we're making people rise above all that and actually face the truth and not be cowardly about it.

01:40:56.000 That's right.

01:40:57.000 Let's go ahead and talk to... Who's up next here?

01:41:03.000 Okay, George in Canada, go ahead.

01:41:06.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:41:07.000 Hello.

01:41:07.000 You can't win a fight by running away.

01:41:09.000 You have to turn around and counter-attack.

01:41:10.000 They use psych-ops and propaganda on us.

01:41:12.000 A lot of their jingles and advertising from the big corporations are stuck in our mind.

01:41:16.000 They've been there for years and years and years.

01:41:18.000 With a minor manipulation, you can turn it into a major disinformation campaign against them.

01:41:24.000 You were talking earlier about the microchip, so something just came in my head about the old Pepsodent commercial.

01:41:29.000 You wonder where your freedoms went.

01:41:31.000 When you run your world with microchips.

01:41:34.000 And then when they, if you're in a short little debate or in a lineup and you have to win a battle against somebody, a quick little jingle like that.

01:41:41.000 When's your debate?

01:41:42.000 It's something someone will easily remember.

01:41:43.000 Well, they use, let me stop you, they use jingoism, that's why they chose 9-11, you know, to imprint it with that archetypal image, and they do this everywhere, like Al-Qaeda is a brand name, doesn't even exist, that's admitted, so we say Al-C-I-A-da. 0.93

01:41:59.000 And what's the term you've coined, Paul?

01:42:01.000 C-I-A-rabs. 1.00

01:42:03.000 C-I-A-rabs, yes. 1.00

01:42:04.000 Gotta love it.

01:42:05.000 Did you hear what happened to Colin Powell and Jordan?

01:42:08.000 Yes, I was going to get to that, and I'm glad you raised it.

01:42:11.000 He was on Meet the Press yesterday, and I've got to get this tape.

01:42:15.000 If somebody's got it, please send it to us, or I'll have to get it through a lengthy process.

01:42:21.000 They thought it was tape, but he got there late, so they joined him in progress, and when they got to the Missing Weapons of Mass Destruction, this woman begins screaming, pushes the camera out of the way, starts commanding Powell, and Powell goes, We're in public.

01:42:33.000 You can't be my boss in public.

01:42:35.000 And so it all blew up in their face how staged it was on live television on the CFR program Meet the Press.

01:42:45.000 And then Powell had to go on and admit that the weapons of mass destruction claim was fake, the mobile weapons trucks were fake.

01:42:50.000 Total disintegration.

01:42:51.000 Paul, George comments.

01:42:54.000 Well, yeah, it shows that this aide had the arrogance to do that.

01:42:59.000 I mean, is it the case?

01:43:03.000 She was shouting and commanding the secretary. 0.99

01:43:06.000 So is she pulling the strings of Powell just like Karl Rove does with Bush?

01:43:10.000 It shows the arrogance and contempt of what they think they can get away with, you know, live TV, millions of viewers.

01:43:17.000 That's it!

01:43:17.000 The interview is over!

01:43:18.000 No!

01:43:19.000 Shoving the camera aside! 0.90

01:43:20.000 You're off, pal!

01:43:20.000 Stop it!

01:43:22.000 Well, no, I think we're actually live.

01:43:23.000 Yes, we're live!

01:43:23.000 No!

01:43:24.000 Nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyany We have the match, but then they do something to attract attention to pull you away from the real match.

01:43:24.000 Get out of here!

01:43:45.000 And there is no free press or free anything in Jordan.

01:43:47.000 That's why the World Economic Forum is being held there.

01:43:50.000 But the big thing is that they want to pull our attention away with the Circus Act, so that we do not concentrate on what's going to be discussed at the World Economic Forum.

01:43:57.000 But it's just a quantum leap that's even discussed in mainstream media.

01:44:02.000 This was played on local Toronto station CFRB last night, which shocked me to no end.

01:44:09.000 That's the battle.

01:44:10.000 Just disinformation a la wrestling and we're not to know what's really going on at this forum where all the world leaders attend.

01:44:16.000 It's not even going to be discussed.

01:44:17.000 We'll talk about the little quip from the interview.

01:44:22.000 That's a good point.

01:44:24.000 This whole torture story they held back was brought out now because of the World Economic Forum, the free trade area of the Americas, NAFTA about to be reauthorized.

01:44:34.000 We're not talking about the dead bodies of the troops now that are still dying every day.

01:44:38.000 Notice that story's gone now.

01:44:41.000 Thanks for the call.

01:44:41.000 Very good point.

01:44:43.000 Let's talk to Delilah and Ann and others.

01:44:45.000 Delilah in Ohio.

01:44:47.000 Go ahead, Delilah. 0.98

01:44:48.000 Hello, Paul.

01:44:49.000 Hello, Alex.

01:44:51.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:44:53.000 Thank you both for waking us all up from living in Gaga Land, if you know what I mean by that.

01:45:01.000 I just wanted to ask a question in regards to the military draft, especially pertaining to us women. 0.72

01:45:10.000 My understanding is I've been doing a little bit of research on the internet.

01:45:15.000 I saw a couple of articles first on worldnet daily and then on your website

01:45:20.000 and then and then another search on google dot com and there's more

01:45:24.000 more articles about you know there's about a hundred thousand and i'm not

01:45:27.000 exaggerating uh... i just turned thirty four last month

01:45:32.000 and i wanted to have a better understanding of why why they want to bring it back

01:45:39.000 I mean, first of all, why they want to bring it back and include us women.

01:45:42.000 That's the first thing I want to know.

01:45:45.000 You get to be slaves too.

01:45:46.000 That's all part of the liberation.

01:45:48.000 Get to break your family up and have you working in a prison camp as well.

01:45:51.000 It's the wonders of being a slave.

01:45:53.000 But this is the deal.

01:45:55.000 There's at least 12 different pieces of legislation.

01:45:57.000 Two of them have women in it. 0.99

01:45:59.000 Two of them make it 18 to 49.

01:45:59.000 Most are 18 to 26.

01:46:00.000 18 to 49?

01:46:00.000 forty nine most are eighteen to twenty six

01:46:04.000 uh... it's not just a nine eighteen to forty nine and especially professional women 1.00

01:46:09.000 and they've reauthorized the draft boards They're preparing selective service to order the state attorney generals to begin at the DMV registering all young girls at 16 to 18 for selective service.

01:46:21.000 Paul, comments on this?

01:46:22.000 Well yeah, obviously they're going to use Under 35 is the military expansion, but at home the age limit is going to be unrestricted because you'll be working for Hellman.

01:46:33.000 And the Selective Service Board website, just go and look at it.

01:46:37.000 The people at the top that are representative of who they are looking for are old black men, young white men, Women.

01:46:45.000 So it's across the board.

01:46:46.000 It's the whole spectrum of society that they're trying to get for this Home 1 draft.

01:46:51.000 And again, this isn't like a draft we've had in the past.

01:46:53.000 This is a Soviet or Nazi draft where old women, young men, everybody's in the Home Guard. 0.61

01:46:59.000 But since there's no real terrorists, now Homeland Security says you're going to be fighting crime, tattling, and neighborhood squads.

01:47:07.000 To graduate from high school, you'll have to serve two years.

01:47:09.000 You'll have to watch surveillance cameras that are fed through your home computer two hours every night.

01:47:14.000 They're going to simulate terror attacks with artificial AI computer programs.

01:47:18.000 This is the New York Times.

01:47:20.000 To make sure you're watching and reporting the terrorists.

01:47:23.000 I mean, this is maximum tyranny.

01:47:27.000 So in other words, from what I was reading on those articles, you're not going to be able to claim the conscientious objector either.

01:47:33.000 Well, I mean, they can't make us all do it, but yeah, they'll arrest a few prominent people.

01:47:37.000 Oh, see, you didn't do the draft.

01:47:39.000 But it's a violation of its indentured servitude.

01:47:43.000 It is slavery.

01:47:44.000 But see, right before they finally pass the draft, they've got senators out promoting it and saying it's good.

01:47:49.000 They're going to blow a bunch of stuff up, kill a bunch of people, and then in the emotion, oh, we've got to have the draft, then they'll put it into place.

01:47:56.000 It won't matter. 0.93

01:47:57.000 I mean, I'm going to get drafted.

01:47:58.000 I guarantee you.

01:47:58.000 They're going to call me down and I'm gone.

01:48:02.000 That's it.

01:48:03.000 They'll have a special injection for me.

01:48:04.000 Here's your vaccine, Mr. Jones. 0.57

01:48:06.000 I'll die a few weeks later.

01:48:08.000 Minor footnote in the newspaper.

01:48:10.000 How does all that stuff work, especially... By the way, you see, if you're the troops and you say you won't fire on American citizens, 76%, you get shipped overseas, you get the deadly vaccine.

01:48:20.000 If you're a little globalist, you stay here domestically, you put on plain clothes, you walk around the streets, you harass people at UT, The Wall Street Journal a few months ago, secret force troops, army troops, army intelligence as young as 25, on incredible power trips, running around harassing people, in three-piece suits, I mean they're everywhere, they're

01:48:37.000 all over the place.

01:48:38.000 Black vans driving around with guys in crew cuts with MP5s laughing at us, helicopters on the pads with nerve gas

01:48:44.000 ready to spray our cities, ha ha ha, this is the freedom, ma'am. That 24 percent that

01:48:49.000 said they'd do it have all been promoted

01:48:51.000 and are ghoulishly waiting for the torture and fun. Comments, Paul?

01:48:55.000 Well, yeah, the basic system is basically the brown shirt system. You're gonna see... 0.65

01:49:01.000 And they're desensitizing people to this in my country.

01:49:04.000 And imagine all of these power trip bullies are going to have uniforms, MP5s, clubs. 1.00

01:49:10.000 It's going to be hell. 0.99

01:49:11.000 They're going to be raping your daughters, beating you up, running everything. 1.00

01:49:15.000 And all the yuppies will grovel to them to stay in good with them and to make money off of them because all the federal contracts are going to go through this. 0.99

01:49:22.000 And we'll all have our local police viceroys we've got to worship.

01:49:28.000 Sound good to you, ma'am?

01:49:29.000 Sound fun?

01:49:30.000 Not really.

01:49:32.000 Not at all.

01:49:33.000 It stinks.

01:49:34.000 It sure does.

01:49:35.000 Paul, I'm sorry.

01:49:36.000 We're going to write and come back and talk to Ann, but Paul, comment.

01:49:39.000 You were trying to say something about brown shirts.

01:49:41.000 Yeah, well, they're going to be everywhere.

01:49:42.000 They're going to be in your supermarkets.

01:49:44.000 They'll stage some kind of bio-attack, and that will be the pretext for this draft.

01:49:48.000 And then you'll see swarms of Homeland Tattletales, you know, in black gas masks, in military garb, just walking around the street, walking in supermarkets everywhere.

01:49:58.000 Yeah, and they've said this.

01:50:01.000 This is a plant.

01:50:02.000 I mean, you want to live like a Soviet, folks? 1.00

01:50:04.000 But don't worry, you'll still have your football games, you'll still all have your, you know, your bread and circus.

01:50:10.000 And they're already implementing it on beta test levels, like the airports and the subways.

01:50:16.000 Yeah, the 30,000 strong Hercules teams in New York.

01:50:20.000 Yeah, military guards basically on subways, on buses, so they're getting the transport system in gear with this and then they'll introduce it, you know, on a wider basis after the next attack.

01:50:30.000 They admit, hardened checkpoints, toll roads, paying for all of it.

01:50:34.000 Every person you know that runs the Neighborhood Association will be a Lord Viceroy of the area.

01:50:40.000 Home inspections knockin' tall for your safety.

01:50:43.000 Oh, I hope you all enjoy it.

01:50:45.000 I hope those listening in intelligence are proud of what they're doing to our country.

01:50:50.000 I hope you're proud.

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01:53:48.000 Alright, Ann in Chicago said that she was a reporter and had some information for us.

01:54:03.000 And then she hung up.

01:54:04.000 Ann, if you want to call back in, if you can get back in, we'll put you at the front of the line.

01:54:09.000 I wanted to hear what you had to say, something to do with Nicholas Berg, the development there.

01:54:13.000 But listen, I'm not trying to scare you or embellish.

01:54:17.000 Long before 9-11, they were creating the cadres under AmeriCorps and SecurCorps to turn your children into secret police, all of them.

01:54:25.000 Hundreds of school districts, as of two or three years ago, last time I investigated it, have BATF officers Actually in the middle school for a semester they write dossiers on their parents.

01:54:38.000 Teach them that guns should be illegal.

01:54:40.000 That's in my film, The Takeover.

01:54:42.000 They train your children how to be loaded on buses and taken to FEMA centers.

01:54:45.000 They admit under a red alert you won't be able to leave your home.

01:54:48.000 You'll be considered an enemy combatant.

01:54:50.000 This is nationwide martial law.

01:54:52.000 We have top generals talking about it in the LA Times and Cigar Aficionado.

01:54:57.000 This is what powerful people want, is total control.

01:55:00.000 They're doing it again, using a manufactured crisis.

01:55:02.000 Paul?

01:55:04.000 Exactly, and we've seen numerous reports about how the military are going into high schools now, creating lists of future soldiers, you know, even though they've got no business being there.

01:55:14.000 We've got this new thing about mandatory volunteerism, where you will have to do 10 hours a week of community service just to graduate from high school.

01:55:25.000 So that's how they're introducing the draft.

01:55:27.000 They're doing it on a level of mandatory volunteerism.

01:55:30.000 Helping the community.

01:55:33.000 It's incredible.

01:55:34.000 Folks, do not put up with this.

01:55:37.000 I serve for the homeland, you call me?

01:55:39.000 We should have to work!

01:55:41.000 They'll kind of gun us!

01:55:42.000 We gotta do it!

01:55:44.000 Torture's good!

01:55:49.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Dave in California.

01:55:52.000 Dave, go ahead.

01:55:53.000 Hi, Alex.

01:55:54.000 Hi, Paul.

01:55:54.000 You guys are doing a good job.

01:55:55.000 Thank you.

01:55:56.000 I have something slightly off subject about the Staron bomb that they supposedly found.

01:56:01.000 I was wondering if you would refresh my memory on the troops that got sick transporting something.

01:56:07.000 In secret convoys, because my guess is this so-called bomb is supposedly or possibly a precursor.

01:56:13.000 Well yeah, last year, last year when we confirmed this, there were convoys carrying something and a bunch of the troops had their lungs liquefied and died after a car wreck.

01:56:25.000 And the last we heard is they were just having a bad cold.

01:56:29.000 It was like 12 people's lungs liquefied, a bunch of others are still in comas.

01:56:34.000 Paul, comments to that?

01:56:36.000 Well, yeah, this story's actually just broke in the last couple of hours.

01:56:39.000 A nerve gas bomb explodes in Iraq.

01:56:42.000 An artillery shell containing a small amount of the nerve gas they're in has exploded in Iraq.

01:56:47.000 Brigadier General Mark Kimmett said the blast had caused a small release of the substance and two people had been treated for exposure to the agent.

01:56:54.000 And so they're basically saying that because Iraq had declared all rounds of this destroyed before the 91 Gulf War, that this is Weapons of Mass Destruction, although they're not dressing it up in those terms, but it's another one of those, you know, mythical mobile weapons lab stories that the neocons will jump on to justify invading.

01:57:14.000 And there were hundreds of sites with weapons of mass destruction.

01:57:17.000 The problem is we've got video of it marked U.S.

01:57:20.000 and so they can't bring that out.

01:57:22.000 Well, we've got video of Donald Rumsfeld in December 83 shaking hands with Saddam to Tie the deal up to sell him those weapons, which Rumsfeld also has conveniently forgotten.

01:57:35.000 He does remember all his trips to Iraq.

01:57:39.000 I was wondering if maybe they're using this as a warm-up to actually finding the mother load that we may have planted.

01:57:45.000 And I love the CIA... Well, we've gotten the reports of them doing that, haven't we, Paul?

01:57:50.000 Yeah, we got reports from southern and western Iraq of these Strange unmarked convoys supposedly driving in undercover, which many people, whistleblowers, including the heads of the provisional Iraqi government in Basra, who are saying that these are the weapons of mass destruction that will be later planted and discovered.

01:58:14.000 Okay, finish up your question there, guys.

01:58:16.000 Well, I love the CIA rats thing, and I've got a couple for you. 0.73

01:58:19.000 One is, treason, lies, death, war. 0.92

01:58:21.000 First Cheney, 2004. 1.00

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02:00:37.000 Paul, I want to get into Rumsfeld telling people to carry out the torture.

02:00:46.000 I want to get into a bunch of Big Brother news as well.

02:00:48.000 What are some of the other pieces of news you want to bring forward in the next 58 minutes?

02:00:54.000 The report out of German television which details Iraqis tortured to death and the fact that dozens of these bodies are emerging out of these prison camps on a weekly basis.

02:01:06.000 And that's admitted.

02:01:07.000 They beat them to death.

02:01:08.000 There's the photos of the IVs, the bodies packed in ice.

02:01:11.000 These new photos are admitted real.

02:01:13.000 People brutally beaten to death.

02:01:16.000 Yes, and it's not been mentioned in the US, obviously, but German Spiegel TV have got the documentation and photographs.

02:01:23.000 And this came not from Abu Ghraib, but from a prison camp called Al-Assad, which is west of Baghdad.

02:01:30.000 And the other prisoners told the news channel that the 47-year-old man was brutally tortured for five days, and that soldiers took photographs.

02:01:40.000 And that there was a cover-up with the death certificate and the autopsy by U.S.

02:01:45.000 officials who said he died of natural causes.

02:01:48.000 But when the body was handed over to Iraqi doctors, they reported deep, dark bruises and lacerations all over the body, consistent with torture.

02:01:57.000 And there's a photo of this.

02:01:58.000 It is grisly.

02:02:00.000 But I guess that's just fraternity fun, Paul.

02:02:03.000 Just blowing off some steam, like the senator said.

02:02:08.000 Well, another senator, Inhofe came out and said that it was okay after Limbaugh, and then yet another senator, the name escapes me, but he said that the torture was akin to hazing, so it's just having some fun.

02:02:20.000 But on top of that, the Iraqis are saying that dozens of bodies are handed over from Abu Ghraib every week, and they are always labeled victims of grenade attacks on the prison.

02:02:33.000 But very few of the injuries to the bodies are consistent with grenade attacks.

02:02:38.000 So, the depth of this from both Abu Ghraib and the other prisons... They might as well just stick a big oven on there!

02:02:45.000 And black smoke coming, they might as well just, you know, resurrect Joseph Mingala.

02:02:52.000 Well, exactly, but the point is that these Iraqis have reported that dozens of these bodies are coming out every week.

02:02:58.000 So, that's the depth that this has got to.

02:03:01.000 And don't worry, soon all these military police will be cops back on our streets pulling you and your family over and they've got a taste for blood. 0.80

02:03:09.000 Well, it's the cement of blood, as you called it.

02:03:13.000 Training the cadres, it's what it's all about. 0.97

02:03:17.000 How do people rationalize torturing people to death and raping women?

02:03:21.000 I don't understand how that's just having a good time. 0.99

02:03:25.000 Well, they beheaded our guy.

02:03:26.000 Come on, Alex.

02:03:27.000 You're not with Al-Qaeda, are you?

02:03:29.000 No, I'm not with the CIA.

02:03:30.000 No, I'm not.

02:03:32.000 But yeah, every neocon station you tune into, they're saying the same thing.

02:03:36.000 Torture is now acceptable in the new America because these guys flew planes into buildings, so anything goes, basically.

02:03:47.000 So let's... 70-90% of those taken to Abu Ghraib and others were families at checkpoints, and I guess the tortured children in front of their parents is now a loving, good, wholesome American thing. 0.94

02:03:57.000 I guess I'm mentally ill, Paul.

02:03:58.000 I thought torturing children was bad. 0.90

02:03:59.000 Much less adults, but... Well, they're saying that their barbarism justifies our barbarism.

02:04:05.000 Even though, outside of that very argument, as you mentioned, 95% of these people in these prisons are not even criminals, never mind terrorists or insurgents.

02:04:16.000 Well, the government's own documents say 79%.

02:04:19.000 Associated Press, Army Zone Report, but imagine, I guess this will be the new tactic here, why you might be guilty, we have to torture you, not just you, but your wife.

02:04:27.000 That's guilty until proven innocent.

02:04:30.000 Tortured until proven guilty.

02:04:33.000 My goodness.

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02:08:25.000 Paul Watson, also author of Order Out of Chaos, elite-sponsored terror in the New World Order.

02:08:30.000 I love that Bush clip where he's going, we're trying to re-establish chaos in Iraq so we can bring in order, you know, order out of chaos.

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02:08:43.000 Let's go ahead and go to Nat.

02:08:45.000 Nat, where are you calling us from today?

02:08:48.000 I'm calling from outside of Sodom, Oregon.

02:08:51.000 Okay, good to talk to you.

02:08:52.000 Go ahead.

02:08:52.000 Yeah, I just have a question for you real quick.

02:08:54.000 It seems like the global MO is to throw red herrings out and then pass legislation.

02:08:58.000 Can you guys comment on what the deal is with Syria and the sanctions?

02:09:01.000 And then I'll just get off.

02:09:03.000 Well, I mean, just what you just said.

02:09:06.000 They want to go into Syria, they want to go into Iran. 0.92

02:09:08.000 60 plus countries left on the public PNAC.

02:09:12.000 uh... hit list and so this is a softening uh... syria up uh... for the invasion and syria's been desperately trying to grovel and comply almost every week our fighter bombers and helicopters and warthogs have been slaughtering syrians up and down the border so there's already a war going on there just like it was a war against cambodia comments paul Well yeah, even during the Iraq War there were bombing buses that were going into Syria to try and spill the war over the border.

02:09:45.000 Also, Israel has been advised by their equivalent of TNAC to attack 15 different Middle Eastern cities to take out any WMD capabilities, and that obviously includes Damascus in Syria.

02:10:01.000 And this is all P2OG, the $7 million Pentagon program, to attack countries, to get them to attack us, to widen the war.

02:10:10.000 And also Israel being recommended to attack Iran.

02:10:13.000 On the flip side of the equation, we've also got confirmed reports that China is still selling top-grade missiles to Syria, so Maybe a later attempt to involve China in the war, which we suspected all along was the ultimate goal.

02:10:28.000 Meanwhile, Rumsfeld's handing out nuclear reactors like hotcakes.

02:10:32.000 Well, yeah, to Pakistan, who were allies with China, who then, you know, passed them on to North Korea.

02:10:37.000 So it's just one big whirlpool of nuclear weapons trading between so-called adversaries.

02:10:43.000 But we've got to have some control freak at a checkpoint search our car because it's homeland and things have changed.

02:10:49.000 Meanwhile, they're proliferating weapons of mass destruction like it's going out of style.

02:10:55.000 Well, exactly.

02:10:55.000 They're the chaos mongers and they're begging for North Korea to, you know, hit Hawaii or whatever.

02:11:01.000 Yeah, putting out battle plans to attack them, trying to push them into it.

02:11:06.000 Suspicious bombings that almost kill Kim Jong-il.

02:11:09.000 And somebody like Kim Jong-il with the largest collection of daffy duck cartoons in the world is obviously insane enough to fall for something like that.

02:11:18.000 Who has a thirty-something story pleasure palace. 0.58

02:11:21.000 And by the way, folks, The good old boys going, nuke them!

02:11:25.000 Nuke those! 1.00

02:11:25.000 Nuke! 1.00

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02:11:28.000 It's your daughter, it's your son that's gonna be drafted to go fight all this, and it's your bosses that sold all these weapons. 0.99

02:11:34.000 So, I know being soft and thinking you're tough, and being a wimp, you think war's real cute.

02:11:39.000 Believe me, it's not cute, it's not fun, it's not neat. 1.00

02:11:42.000 You idiots! 1.00

02:11:45.000 Just wait till your sons and daughters come back with their arms and legs blown off, and you're changing their diapers. 1.00

02:11:49.000 We'll see your neo-contune then. 0.99

02:11:56.000 I mean, this is sick, Paul. 0.71

02:11:57.000 War is sick.

02:11:58.000 And to watch them start wars, watch them create wars, watch them create boogeymen, I'm sick of it.

02:12:03.000 Are you sick of it?

02:12:05.000 Well, yeah, but they get away with it because they've boiled it down to a sports mentality where it's us versus them.

02:12:11.000 And while it's true that North Korea has this network of gulags with 200,000 people in them, the people getting bombed and killed will not be Kim Jong-il, they'll be the people of North Korea.

02:12:22.000 And they've allowed North Korea to build up this million-man army so that they are a worthwhile adversary. 0.97

02:12:28.000 They're talking about 660,000 troops for an invasion of North Korea.

02:12:34.000 And North Korea are basically ready for it. 0.89

02:12:36.000 Every week they put out, you know, state press releases where they say... And look, the globalists can nuke a city and say Kim Jong-Un did it, or that psychopath who has been hiding saying the West wants to kill him and Rumsfeld released the public battle plans to do it.

02:12:51.000 You don't do that unless it's like a ten-part plan to get Japan to attack us. 0.86

02:12:55.000 So that's there, or he could nuke us, and imagine the reorganization of America into the police state after the nuking of a major city.

02:13:04.000 Well it will be the final straw, and it's why Rumsfeld was on the board of ABB, even though conveniently, surprise surprise, he'd forgotten that as well.

02:13:13.000 He doesn't remember his trips to North Korea giving him the reactors.

02:13:17.000 He doesn't remember lobbying Bill Clinton to let him do it.

02:13:20.000 Even though it's in his official bio.

02:13:23.000 Well, at the same time, he's telling Russia to stop helping Iran build light-water reactors.

02:13:30.000 And that's the exact same thing that he did with North Korea.

02:13:33.000 He gave them the materials... And we have the BBC and Associated Press where the US and Israel have been arming Iran with the parts.

02:13:40.000 Why would Israel do that? 0.96

02:13:42.000 Because they've now been advised to go and take out weapons of mass destruction capabilities in 15 Middle Eastern cities, though they need a pretext to do it.

02:13:53.000 Oh man, let's go ahead and go to Mark in Minnesota, then Eddie, Bill and others.

02:14:00.000 Mark, go ahead.

02:14:02.000 Hey Alex and Paul, how are you guys doing?

02:14:03.000 Fine.

02:14:05.000 I noticed that the link to the article that CBS News had, they switched the link around so that when you go to it, it's no longer the article about strange new link in a burg murder, it's Ashcroft You know, trying to mitigate the whole situation.

02:14:22.000 Oh yeah, there's nothing here to see.

02:14:27.000 You know, CBS and MSNBC never used to do that, but on these key articles, they don't erase them, they just move them.

02:14:32.000 Paul, can you go find the article and just save it?

02:14:35.000 Well, I found a link to a CBS affiliate in Chicago that has the same exact article, and I emailed that to you, Alex.

02:14:43.000 Okay, will you go to Prison Planet and email it to the webmaster, too?

02:14:48.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

02:14:48.000 But I'll tell you, that was a very interesting article.

02:14:51.000 When I first saw that, when that first came out a few days ago, and I noticed that as Burt had Israeli papers, I'll tell you the first thing that came to me was that Mossad ring, and then, you know, yeah, just... Okay, if you're going to mention Burt, let's go over it.

02:15:05.000 Burt has got the classic intelligence MO, leaves Ivy League school with top grades to, quote, help the world with high-tech software.

02:15:13.000 Uh, he then is in Abu Ghraib prison doing work.

02:15:15.000 He then is grabbed by intelligence, released 13 and a half days later, grabbed by El-Syiada.

02:15:19.000 Uh, he's investigated not with one, but two of the hijackers by the FBI in 2002, and magically... Paul Bizarre Coincidence.

02:15:28.000 ...magically them getting his passports.

02:15:29.000 Now it turns out he's working with an Iraqi group with, under CIA control, who's been caught trying to ship out cocaine components with the Russian Mafia. 0.91

02:15:38.000 Uh, I mean, Paul, this is ridiculous. 0.86

02:15:40.000 Paul Bizarre Coincidence.

02:15:42.000 Well, on top of that, the first point made was this, you know, on the internet, how they shift around these stories and change them.

02:15:49.000 On Friday, there was a story out of the London Evening Standard which talked about how a school had organized the abortion for a teenage mother without the consent of the parents.

02:16:00.000 And in that article, the first version of it, they stated that this was a program of government sterilization which had been authorized across the country.

02:16:08.000 Two hours later, I went back to that Yeah, good points.

02:16:11.000 Good to hear from you Mark.

02:16:12.000 it being a program of government sterilization to be deleted

02:16:17.000 three nasty emails telling me that i make stories open that's what they do

02:16:21.000 they ship stories around delete them completely and then with when we say

02:16:25.000 the stories into our own format we get attacked for itself you can't win with these people

02:16:32.000 yeah good job points to do here from your mark police and assault

02:16:36.000 uh... let's go ahead and talk to uh...

02:16:40.000 Eddie, go ahead.

02:16:42.000 Good afternoon, Paul.

02:16:43.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:16:44.000 How are y'all?

02:16:44.000 Great.

02:16:45.000 I had a little comment to make.

02:16:47.000 You know, companies are doing research on chips and control mechanisms and all that, and I told a friend of mine who doesn't really believe what's going on, and I told him, I said, do you have any money into these chips?

02:17:02.000 Because he said he had some money into some of these companies.

02:17:05.000 And I told him flat out, I said, man, you should pull your money.

02:17:07.000 His father is a pastor.

02:17:09.000 I said, if you don't believe me, just ask your father if it's right.

02:17:12.000 And he went and talked to him.

02:17:14.000 I think it took him to come to the realization of what was really going on, and he pulled his money out.

02:17:21.000 And if we all did that, then I think it would hurt them.

02:17:25.000 Yeah, for those that didn't see it, USA Today, huge article, it's trendy, everybody's got to get chips, everyone's going to get them, just accept it.

02:17:33.000 And then these yuppies still deny that this is even going on.

02:17:36.000 But no, listen, two years ago they had the big week-long blitz of the family getting implanted, and everybody needs it, and on the news, here's how you buy the stock.

02:17:45.000 Really trying to push Applied Digital, which is just one of many up front for IBM, The stock actually plunged from a couple dollars to like 30 cents.

02:17:53.000 It's backfiring!

02:17:55.000 People are not buying this!

02:17:57.000 I mean, a national week-long ad for Verichip caused their stock to plunge, Paul.

02:18:04.000 Well, yeah, we get reports every couple of months about how Applied Digital keep going into hundreds of millions of dollars of debt.

02:18:11.000 They can't pay it back, but the The boon for them is that they're owned by IBM.

02:18:16.000 So IBM just keeps bankrolling them.

02:18:19.000 The same IBM that produced the machines in the German concentration camps to tattoo the Jews.

02:18:25.000 But IBM keeps bankrolling Applied Digital.

02:18:28.000 So even though with these massive debts, gigantic debts, the company still exists?

02:18:33.000 I think that the people, you know, if they pull their money out of these companies, The United States would just basically go bail them out, but the people would get to hang on to their money, and I think it would just cause them probably, like, maybe a merely, uh, an inconvenience?

02:18:51.000 Is that possible?

02:18:51.000 Well, yes, and at least you, I mean, at least you won't own the stock in the friendly concentration camp companies.

02:18:57.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:18:59.000 I think that, you know, as Christians, Baptists, and Catholics, you know, just to have your money in there, to make a few monies, And by that I'm talking about IBM when I say your friendly concentration camp company. 0.83

02:19:14.000 They came up with the formulas with their international business machine of how tall a woman is, her age, they'd measure her fat level and they'd decide whether to blow her head off or make her a worker bee. 1.00

02:19:26.000 They'd put a tattoo on her and decide how much to feed them to keep them barely alive or if you just wanted to kill them by starvation. 0.99

02:19:34.000 You know, people may think that they're just having fun blowing off some steam, but I think killing Jews is wrong. 0.98

02:19:38.000 I think torturing them to death is wrong too, but I don't know, maybe you're a neocon, maybe you think it's good.

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02:23:59.000 Let's talk to Bill in Oregon.

02:24:00.000 Bill, you're on the air.

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02:24:12.000 Let's talk to Bill in Oregon.

02:24:13.000 Bill, you're on the air.

02:24:14.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:24:15.000 Yeah, Alex, just another thing here.

02:24:16.000 Let's talk about the news.

02:24:17.000 Last night on the news stations in Portland, they were talking about how the Reserves that signed up for four years, I guess the National Guard, they came home, their tours are all ended.

02:24:26.000 Well, they're evidently somewhere in the contract.

02:24:28.000 They can be just simply called up for another two years.

02:24:30.000 They can be re-upped in perpetuity.

02:24:33.000 That's kind of what's happening right now.

02:24:35.000 And another thing I was thinking, I don't know if you've run this through, I'm sure you have, but Wouldn't the Olympics be a prime place to have an attack occur to just kind of, you know, make the world all freak out at once and have some event, you know, for the election?

02:24:47.000 Well, for the evidence, the BATF did attack at the Olympic Park back in Atlanta back in the last century and then tried to blame Richard Jewell, then tried to blame others.

02:24:59.000 Right, I remember that.

02:25:01.000 But, yeah, I mean, look, the Globals can strike anywhere, anytime.

02:25:05.000 Of course, the former owner of the World Trade Center complex just bought the Sears Tower,

02:25:09.000 which they say is one of the next big targets.

02:25:22.000 Well, on a bunch of my videos, say The Takeover, I say you're allowed to air all my videos, and I'm publicly telling you that you're allowed to.

02:25:29.000 Okay, excellent.

02:25:30.000 I appreciate that.

02:25:31.000 No, I appreciate you.

02:25:32.000 I'm asking you to air it.

02:25:32.000 Are you kidding?

02:25:34.000 We're going to do... I've been working on it for two weeks, and it looks like it's going to come to fruition.

02:25:39.000 Go down there and get your own show.

02:25:39.000 Good.

02:25:41.000 Hey, they asked us about that, my buddy Chuck and myself.

02:25:46.000 And so we're contemplating getting an hour to see how we do.

02:25:48.000 Yeah, get your own weekly show.

02:25:50.000 If you don't feel like going on live that week, just air a video.

02:25:52.000 Well, there's some young kids around here that are pretty smart, too, in their late teens, early twenties, and I like to have them on and get their perspective and, you know, kind of promote the whole concept.

02:26:00.000 Hey, look, I went and got an AXS TV show ten years ago.

02:26:03.000 Then I got a radio show.

02:26:04.000 Then I got a syndicated radio show.

02:26:05.000 You know, I've been in a movie.

02:26:08.000 I'm going to be in some other movies.

02:26:08.000 Never tried to be in a movie.

02:26:13.000 I'm making documentaries.

02:26:15.000 I've done thousands of radio interviews.

02:26:16.000 I mean, I know that if you've got something to say, and you know what you're talking about, all of you are leaders, and you should all take advantage of that media stepping stone that is access television.

02:26:26.000 Thanks for the call.

02:26:27.000 Let's get Paul Watson's take on putting up a website and taking action, and where that journey has led him the last three years.

02:26:35.000 Well, yeah, when I started off July 2001, Really on the website, my own website, and I'm getting 30 hits a day and now with our websites combined, it's something ridiculous.

02:26:49.000 You know, I've lost count, I don't even keep track anymore because it's millions and millions a month.

02:26:54.000 So, it takes a lot of hard work and a lot of sweat and blood, but you can build your own media platform.

02:27:00.000 Now we have the internet and you can influence a lot of people.

02:27:03.000 But, the caller mentioned the Olympic Games.

02:27:07.000 There have been small-scale bombings in Greece over the past few weeks by these left-wing anarchists which were created in the 60s and 70s by the CIA under what was called Operation Gladio and there's been a lot of talk about how the stadium in Greece for the Olympic Games isn't even finished and probably won't be before the Games start, so won't it be convenient if part of the stadium collapses and it gets blamed on some left-wing anarchist terrorist group?

02:27:34.000 There have been small-scale bombings in Greece over the past few weeks, so it is a possibility, unfortunately.

02:27:41.000 Let's take one more call.

02:27:42.000 I'm going to come back and cover news, then take more calls.

02:27:44.000 Mark, you're on the air.

02:27:45.000 Where are you calling us from?

02:27:46.000 I'm calling in from Washington, Alex.

02:27:48.000 A lot of calls from Washington.

02:27:49.000 Go ahead.

02:27:50.000 Well, you know, something you said really struck me, and basically what it was was, you know, how long are people going to sit and watch what is happening in this country, knowing that, you know, what happened in 9-1-1, the bombings in Spain, All of this coming down over and over again.

02:28:08.000 How long are we going to sit back on our rear ends and do nothing?

02:28:12.000 How long is it going to take the American public to wake up and realize that these tyrannical, greedy, very rich men are doing all this by design to bring us into this new world order?

02:28:27.000 Powerful people don't do mean things.

02:28:29.000 They're in power because they're nice, because they're not ruthless.

02:28:33.000 I mean, let's just give our freedoms up and take microchips and everything will be okay. 0.74

02:28:37.000 It's not scary to have the TV and print media telling us to take chips.

02:28:40.000 That's a good sign of freedom, man.

02:28:43.000 Well, you know, I look at it this way, Alex, that, you know, the Illuminati had done their homework.

02:28:47.000 They've infiltrated basically every... Yeah, the Christian Church wasn't run by the New World Order.

02:28:55.000 This wouldn't be happening.

02:28:56.000 But they took us over from within.

02:28:58.000 Absolutely.

02:28:58.000 They took us over from within.

02:29:00.000 So when are good patriots going to realize That we just can't sit back and do nothing.

02:29:06.000 That we have to speak out.

02:29:07.000 That we have to do what you and Paul said.

02:29:09.000 That we have to step up and be leaders.

02:29:11.000 I've started a radio show myself.

02:29:14.000 It's called Beyond the Veil on American Voice Radio.

02:29:17.000 And myself and another gentleman.

02:29:19.000 Good!

02:29:21.000 Thanks for the call.

02:29:21.000 That's wonderful news.

02:29:23.000 We'll come back and get into all the torture.

02:29:24.000 A bunch of news we haven't covered.

02:29:25.000 A bunch of Big Brother developments.

02:29:27.000 With Paul Watson, I'm Alex Jones.

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02:33:33.000 Okay, well, with PrisonPlanet.TV I've actually posted video on PrisonPlanet.com which is a segment, three-minute segment of one of Alex's mini-documentary presentations which, you know, are posted on PrisonPlanet.TV for members numerous times weekly so people can get a sample on PrisonPlanet.com.

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02:34:57.000 Yeah, Paul, you need to take all those newspaper reviews you've gotten that we've never even talked about, just random newspapers, giving it great reviews.

02:35:05.000 We need to post those, but go ahead.

02:35:07.000 Yeah, and there's also a section on torture.

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02:37:16.000 Paul, I want to get into all this other Big Brother news and some energy news and then take some calls here in a

02:37:22.000 second, but...

02:37:22.000 But Rumsfeld, I mean, he was on TV saying torture was good the last two years.

02:37:27.000 They had CIA section chiefs in the magazines and newspapers saying it.

02:37:31.000 Now it comes out that Pentagon officials are telling the media, yeah, he did order us to do it.

02:37:35.000 They're all getting worried, so they're saying, look, we were ordered by Rumsfeld.

02:37:39.000 The low-levels say we were ordered by this general, by these contractors, they say we were ordered by Rumsfeld.

02:37:44.000 He's publicly been saying it.

02:37:46.000 I mean, the media can play clips right now of Rumsfeld bragging two years ago about this poll.

02:37:50.000 So where do you see all this going now?

02:37:53.000 Well, if they play it right, then a few lower-level people will get burned if it goes to a Um, a situation where they need to, you know, display some kind of reaction and someone like Rumsfeld will be forced to step down.

02:38:06.000 And now we know the name of the program, it's called Copper Green, and obviously it was transferred over from Guantanamo Bay, where the torture was already instituted.

02:38:17.000 And the justification from Rumsfeld, he complained that they were not getting enough information from, you know, both these Iraqi prisons and Guantanamo Bay.

02:38:27.000 so he went ahead and gave the order for this abuse and torture to take place.

02:38:33.000 Now because the LA Times reported that no leaders of Al-Qaeda found at Guantanamo,

02:38:38.000 and we know that the people in the Iraqi prisons are taxi drivers, people who sell alcohol,

02:38:44.000 children who steal biscuits, so is it really a surprise that they got no information out of them,

02:38:49.000 because these weren't real Al-Qaeda?

02:38:51.000 Yeah, Rumsfeld knows they flew the 8,000 Taliban al Qaeda leaders out of Afghanistan.

02:38:56.000 They know all this.

02:38:57.000 They paid off the generals in Iraq beforehand.

02:38:59.000 Rumsfeld's on tape saying that.

02:39:01.000 So this is about creating a cadre of torturers.

02:39:04.000 You've got Rumsfeld in there flogging them to give me more, do more.

02:39:08.000 And if this was about, you know, obtaining information, then why are they torturing Goat herders and shoemakers and not Saddam Hussein. 0.83

02:39:17.000 We've got this big media circus about how they're threatening Saddam with exporting him back to Iraq where he's going to face torture.

02:39:24.000 So they're basically saying that they're not doing anything to Saddam.

02:39:28.000 And maybe, you know, he called in a few favours from his ex-CIA buddies, but no discussion of torture and Saddam.

02:39:35.000 It's all about torturing children and taxi drivers.

02:39:41.000 Again, Rumsfeld and Firing Line for, quote, clearing abuse of prisoners.

02:39:46.000 We've got CIA wrong on Iraq mobile weapons labs.

02:39:49.000 Powell says Reuters, the U.S.

02:39:50.000 Central Intelligence Agency, was wrong about Iraq's reported pre-war mobile biological weapons laboratories, a key part of the case about suspected weapons of mass destruction.

02:39:59.000 But they didn't just say it before the war.

02:40:02.000 They went right to the inspected sites where they looked at it as early as 92.

02:40:06.000 These old British trucks Which had serial numbers, were in Jane's Weapons Encyclopedia, for pumping up hydrogen surveillance blimps.

02:40:14.000 They knew what it was.

02:40:15.000 The U.S.

02:40:15.000 had bought a bunch of these from the British, that make one of the premier models of it.

02:40:19.000 They knew, just like they knew the mass graves was a dead exchange program between Iran and a declared site.

02:40:27.000 So they premeditatedly went around.

02:40:28.000 But now, Powell has said it's fake.

02:40:31.000 The generals have said it's fake, but still the neocons are on TV, Paul, saying they found mobile weapons trucks.

02:40:38.000 And they will continue to do so.

02:40:40.000 And the moment right before Powell went ahead and admitted that the mobile weapons trucks were fake, as we already knew, that was the very moment where his aide tried to pull him from the interview and turn the camera to face the palm tree.

02:40:54.000 So, some of them don't want that to get out, but as you said, Powell's admitted that.

02:41:00.000 Bush knew, or Bush was told, his handlers knew, that the Niger-Uranian transfer claim to Iraq was false and yet they still went ahead Bush's script writers and put it in his State of the Union in January 2003 so they knew these claims were all false before the Iraq war started.

02:41:20.000 It's only coming out now with some of them that they were false from their own mouths but we've been reporting on it for 18 months or more.

02:41:29.000 Oil strikes new high on supply fears also Reuters oil prices struck a new record high today ...on simmering concern that rapid fuel demand growth will outpace global supplies at a time when traders fear a sabotage attack on Middle East oil infrastructure.

02:41:46.000 They've ordered oil production to cut back.

02:41:48.000 This is all just a profit-taking going on right now, and then they're going to lower oil prices later and give you a national gas tax through the satellite boxes in your cars.

02:41:59.000 Paul?

02:42:00.000 Well, yeah, they've just acquired, you know, the second largest oil fields in the world, so...

02:42:05.000 Surely a more plentiful supply would bring prices down, but that's not the case, because if you inflame the Middle East, just like with the Israel-Palestine situation, you keep the prices high. 0.87

02:42:16.000 And the Saudis, apparently it came out from, I think it was one of the whistleblowers, I think it was O'Neill, That they're going to lower the prices right before the election, and the economy is going to be great for a month or so before, and Bush is going to get re-elected.

02:42:35.000 Now, obviously, it doesn't matter who gets elected, but if they plan to keep Bush in, then the Saudis might go ahead and lower those prices right before the election. 0.61

02:42:43.000 And again, the Saudis only get about 20% of the money.

02:42:46.000 If there was a lack of oil or supplies, you would see oil companies not registering record profits.

02:42:53.000 Exactly.

02:42:55.000 You know, Halliburton just denounced record profits.

02:42:58.000 They all have.

02:43:00.000 Suicide car bomb kills Iraq Governing Council Chief, the counterpart of Chalibi, his main competitor.

02:43:09.000 A suicide car bomber killed ahead of Iraq's Governing Council Monday.

02:43:13.000 Increasing fears that instability will make a new Iraq government unable to function when U.S.

02:43:18.000 occupiers hand it over in six weeks.

02:43:19.000 They're not handing it over, number one.

02:43:21.000 It's a new puppet council appointed, but on top of that, what do you think of the killing of Yassin Saleem, the Shiite leader?

02:43:31.000 Why do you think that happened?

02:43:33.000 I haven't seen the pictures, but if they show giant craters, then...

02:43:33.000 I don't know.

02:43:37.000 Odds on it wasn't a car bomb, it was a missile attack, like most of them are. 0.97

02:43:41.000 But with this handover, there's this whole debate where they're saying that the new Iraqi government, which they install, if they ask the US to leave Iraq, then they will do so.

02:43:53.000 Now that's a complete smokescreen, because obviously they're not going to tell the US to leave Iraq, because they're putting these people in, they're not elected.

02:44:01.000 Not freedom.

02:44:02.000 So they're not going to ask the US to leave, but you know, they present it as this big Things, so as to make people think that it is a liberation and a new government, a sovereign government, when it isn't.

02:44:13.000 When BBC report that they won't even have the power to make any new laws.

02:44:19.000 Alright, Indian markets crash on turmoil.

02:44:22.000 Reuters, Indian stocks plunged as much as 17.5% today in their biggest one-day fall ever.

02:44:28.000 As it became clear the new leftist-backed government could be unstable and slow the pace of economic growth.

02:44:36.000 Well, I don't know what's going on with that.

02:44:38.000 That's the granddaughter of Gandhi.

02:44:42.000 But they do, I estimate, because they're still selling weapons to both India and Pakistan.

02:44:49.000 Maybe it was to do with the fact that Vajpayee was ousted and this new government came in.

02:44:53.000 Maybe it was to do with the fact that two weeks before he went, he came out in a public press conference and said that the U.S.

02:45:00.000 was still trying to sell him nuclear bombs.

02:45:02.000 So maybe that's got something to do with the fact Okay, now shifting back into the torture, we have Limbaugh.

02:45:12.000 Go ahead and get that clip ready, Stephanie, please.

02:45:14.000 Limbaugh clip.

02:45:15.000 Saying just hazing, just blowing off some steam, just having some fun.

02:45:20.000 We have Senator Inhofe saying that, and then now we have Iowa Congressman abuse little more than hazing, A.P.

02:45:26.000 Representative Steve King says the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S.

02:45:30.000 soldiers was little more than hazing.

02:45:32.000 I'm reading off a script here.

02:45:34.000 The statement in Friday's Des Moines Register, the Iowa Congressman said the mistreatment of Abu Ghraib in prison does not compare to what Iraqi insurgents have done to Americans. 0.99

02:45:42.000 Now it's okay to rape people and then kill them because, well, it's good when we do it, bad when they do it, Paul. 0.96

02:45:48.000 Now that's the double think. 1.00

02:45:50.000 The military report, which was...

02:45:52.000 Came out before these new photographs, which we're not allowed to see, that very report said rape and torture.

02:45:59.000 It's not just humiliation, as they call it.

02:46:01.000 It's beating people to death, and that is not hazing.

02:46:04.000 U.S.

02:46:05.000 turns to private sector for spies.

02:46:07.000 Financial Times article about how your private companies, your grocery stores, your banks, are working for Homeland, uploading everything you do.

02:46:14.000 That's for IRS cases, child support.

02:46:16.000 This is all Homeland's new job.

02:46:20.000 Well, yeah.

02:46:22.000 Most of the big office, you know, the big office spaces now, mandatory email monitoring, cameras focused on every employee, so phone calls traced, obviously that's been going on for years, so they're getting people ready for it in the workplace.

02:46:38.000 Here's another one, Bush and Blair's speed-up exit strategy, the Herald.

02:46:43.000 Of course we said they're going to have the UN as the new viceroy boss, will be a subsidiary, Britain and the US.

02:46:49.000 This was planned beforehand, before the war.

02:46:51.000 Romano Prodi said, I've met with Bush, we're going to come in after, and then they play the part of the savior.

02:46:56.000 This is totally set up, oh America's evil, something must be done, we must have a global government to deal with that crazy cowboy Bush, and here it is, Tony Blair and George W. Bush, Well yeah, that UN resolution they're hoping will include troops from numerous different countries.

02:47:23.000 So, even if they do pull out, they're only going to send a new batch of troops in to replace them.

02:47:28.000 It will be a different mask on the same regime in there.

02:47:31.000 It's not a sovereign government.

02:47:33.000 All right, here's VUNet, uh, VN, VNUNet.

02:47:37.000 Uh, UK considers electronic borders, technology publication, government agencies, collaborate on plans to track every UK arrival and departure.

02:47:44.000 Then it goes on that every citizen will be tracked by an RFID national ID card.

02:47:49.000 That's to stop the illegals that the government brings in to begin with, Paul. 1.00

02:47:52.000 Yeah, Tony Blair got caught organising the secret influx of Romanian immigrants. 1.00

02:47:59.000 He was in secret negotiations with the Romanian Prime Minister to do so.

02:48:04.000 So they create the illegal immigration problem and then say that we need to take a national ID card to solve it and, you know, eye scans in the street now with this new national ID card for British people so it's all directed towards us and not the illegals. 0.53

02:48:21.000 That's exactly what's going on.

02:48:22.000 But the UN wants to save farmers of the third world, ABC reports.

02:48:27.000 Third world farmers need biotechnology, the UN says.

02:48:30.000 They're going to help make sure that they bring in crops that kill all their other crops, Paul.

02:48:35.000 Well, that's good if it's for global, then I advocate it.

02:48:39.000 And that's another front.

02:48:41.000 Yet again, the elimination of self-sufficiency with these Frankenstein crops and on top of that livestock tracking which is going to be implemented mandatory in many states in the U.S.

02:48:57.000 Starting right now, some U.S.

02:48:59.000 troops in South Korea may go to Iraq rotating 4,000 out of there as things begin to get desperate.

02:49:05.000 Did you see this London Telegraph article?

02:49:07.000 George Orwell must have written the EU constitution handbook?

02:49:11.000 And they give all these examples of double speak?

02:49:14.000 Well, yeah, they say it's not about a total takeover of Britain's economic, military, social apparatus of law.

02:49:24.000 And yet, the next page, they say it is!

02:49:25.000 Because I've read the EU Constitution, and that's exactly what it is.

02:49:30.000 Here's another one.

02:49:31.000 Israel urged to conduct pre-emptive strikes.

02:49:31.000 You mentioned it earlier.

02:49:34.000 Tel Aviv?

02:49:36.000 Israel News Service.

02:49:37.000 Israel has begun urging and leading strategists to plan preemptive strikes against weapons of mass destruction arsenals in the Middle East.

02:49:43.000 The report, entitled Israel's Strategic Future, asserted that Israel must prevent the formation of enemy weapons of mass destruction coalition through such means as conventional preemptive strikes against vital facilities.

02:49:54.000 The report said the Jewish state has been threatened by biological and nuclear first strike that seeks to exploit Israel's small space as a high population density and they list 15 countries to be hit.

02:50:06.000 Well, the most dangerous threat regarding weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East is Israel. 0.97

02:50:12.000 They're the ones with 400 nukes and this developing race-specific bioweapon. 0.99

02:50:19.000 So I think people would need to look at Israel a little more closely before they go out and bomb other people. 0.91

02:50:24.000 Very strange that you've got Israelis running around the US in orange jumpsuits as well. 0.99

02:50:29.000 I wonder what they were up to.

02:50:33.000 Alright, we'll come back, take a few final calls from Charles in Pennsylvania and others, and one or two other final news articles.

02:50:38.000 Stay with us, InfoWars.com and now PrisonPlanet.tv.

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02:54:02.000 Charles in Pennsylvania, thanks for holding her on the air.

02:54:04.000 Go ahead.

02:54:06.000 Yeah, thanks Alex.

02:54:07.000 I've heard you over the last four years talk about the census, the busybody census forms, the three levels.

02:54:13.000 Well today I just got a I'm self-employed.

02:54:16.000 Yeah, they're going to have a yearly census.

02:54:18.000 Okay, well this is called the 2002 Survey of Business Owners and Self-Employed Persons.

02:54:23.000 You are required by law, Title 13 United States Code.

02:54:26.000 Not true.

02:54:26.000 Federal judges block that.

02:54:28.000 You have a Fifth Amendment right.

02:54:29.000 They can only ask you how many people live in a house once every ten years.

02:54:33.000 Anything else is criminal.

02:54:35.000 Well, I agree.

02:54:35.000 Who would I contact to complain about this?

02:54:38.000 They have no enforcement power.

02:54:39.000 I mean, they prosecuted one person in 1960.

02:54:44.000 The 1960 Census, they ended up prosecuting them by 1963 because they refused.

02:54:51.000 It's not a law.

02:54:52.000 A federal judge in Houston blocked it back in 2000.

02:54:56.000 One out of seven houses, one out of six houses got a 59 question survey.

02:54:59.000 Some got the business survey.

02:55:00.000 Is yours over 200 questions?

02:55:02.000 No, it's only 34, but I'm not asking you to tell me what to do, but what would you do?

02:55:05.000 Just throw it away?

02:55:07.000 Yeah, I'd throw it away.

02:55:08.000 And if some punk comes to your door, tell him you're going to call the police.

02:55:13.000 Okay, Alex.

02:55:14.000 I've been listening to it for four years and I really appreciate it.

02:55:16.000 And I will be listening to the show tonight because I missed the first part.

02:55:19.000 Okay, thank you.

02:55:20.000 I appreciate it.

02:55:22.000 Paul, a lot of attention on Michael Moore's new movie, which Disney dumped, Fahrenheit 9-11.

02:55:28.000 I'm told from folks on the inside it only covers the Bushes, the Bin Ladens. 1.00

02:55:31.000 It doesn't say Bush had involvement, just that he had prior knowledge.

02:55:36.000 It's got about 10% of what's in your book and in my films, but still is important.

02:55:40.000 What do you think of the film?

02:55:41.000 Well, I haven't seen it yet, obviously.

02:55:44.000 From my understanding of the reviews, it blames people like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for their direct involvement in 9-11, so it shifts the blame.

02:55:54.000 But callers to these neocon shows that I listen to on a regular basis all call for Michael Moore to be arrested.

02:56:01.000 So, I wouldn't take it to that level.

02:56:04.000 It is, in one sense, a whitewash, but it shows their desperation in trying to Suppress it, that they don't even want a small amount of information to get that much big media coverage. 0.99

02:56:14.000 It'll backfire on them like the passion, and it will make it a liberal right paradigm, which is stupid. 0.98

02:56:20.000 Bill Clinton's just as guilty as Lord Bush in the cover-up. 0.99

02:56:24.000 Let us get into another final article here.

02:56:26.000 Russia wants faster aid for rotting nuclear subs and ships.

02:56:30.000 We're not worried about that and how they're proliferating them.

02:56:32.000 We're worried about Iran.

02:56:34.000 Well now, Russia from on a basically six-month rotational basis have these military exercises which are all geared towards an attack on the US mainland but it's in cooperation with the US government even though they're planning to attack the US so again they don't care they're helping these people plan these wars.

02:56:58.000 And we're still under PDD 60 where we will absorb a first nuclear strike before quote deciding what to do instead of mad mutually assured destruction which Hellison could stand.

02:57:08.000 Well, exactly.

02:57:09.000 Mutually Assured Destruction ensured that, you know, many people think that the whole world should have one nuclear weapon and then with the MAD system it protects us infinitely from any kind of global escalation where one superpower or two superpowers gain the advantage and have, you know, a reason for starting a nuclear war.

02:57:31.000 So that system has changed now.

02:57:34.000 Well, we will absorb a nuclear strike, but they say give your liberties up so you're safe and the border stays wide open.

02:57:39.000 Paul, final comments?

02:57:42.000 Um, the websites are exploding in popularity.

02:57:45.000 We've got people coming over from different aspects of this, um, getting really focused on the information, the important information.

02:57:52.000 So, just, um, stop preaching to the choir and keep working hard and we can, um, back this off.

02:57:59.000 Exactly.

02:57:59.000 Don't spend your time fighting with other patriots.

02:58:01.000 That's what COINTELPRO does.

02:58:03.000 Focus on the enemy of the New World Order. 0.86

02:58:04.000 Move forward.

02:58:05.000 You know you're a good person.

02:58:06.000 You know you're a leader.

02:58:07.000 Stand up and join us in this historical fight or be totally and completely enslaved.

02:58:11.000 Stop letting them use manufactured crises to scare you into submission.

02:58:15.000 If you give up liberty, you get tyranny.

02:58:16.000 You do not get safety or security.

02:58:18.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central, back tomorrow 11 to 2.

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