Alex Jones Show - 20040712_Mon_Alex

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00:00:22.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday.

00:00:39.000 It is the twelfth day of July 2004.

00:00:45.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:46.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:48.000 Joining us here in a few minutes is Bev Harris of Black Box Voting.

00:00:53.000 One of the most informed and active voices out there exposing the government takeover of the elections, the total fraud, up one side and down the other.

00:01:03.000 She's here in Austin.

00:01:04.000 She's going to be giving a press conference at the Capitol and talking to the Secretary of State tomorrow.

00:01:11.000 And so that is something that you definitely do not want to miss coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:01:18.000 And then you asked for him, so you got him.

00:01:20.000 David Icke is going to be on for two hours coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:01:26.000 And we're going to go over all the news as well today.

00:01:29.000 It's of the utmost importance.

00:01:32.000 I mean, the mainstream headlines seem like something, you know, that we were talking about five, six, seven years ago.

00:01:38.000 Here is the Associated Press headline, U.S.

00:01:42.000 mulling how to delay November vote in case of attack.

00:01:48.000 News & World Report, of course, article where the White House said we will be attacked, they will suspend the election.

00:01:48.000 The U.S.

00:01:55.000 Newsweek calls this their exclusive Election Day worries.

00:02:00.000 American counter-terrorism officials citing what they call alarming intelligence about a possible Al-Cieda strike inside the United States this fall are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.

00:02:19.000 Newsweek has learned.

00:02:20.000 That's martial law, boys and girls.

00:02:23.000 And InfoWars.com wrote this this morning above the Newsweek story Fear-mongering and conditioning for total control, terror, martial law, and the end of the Constitution.

00:02:38.000 More news today about terror and the elections.

00:02:40.000 This time, we're being warned that the election could be postponed in the event of a terror attack.

00:02:46.000 At the beginning of the month, we were warned that they might be cancelled outright.

00:02:49.000 We have links.

00:02:50.000 Every comment is a hyperlink to a mainstream story.

00:02:53.000 Again, at the beginning of the month, we were warned that they might be cancelled outright.

00:02:58.000 This is not to mention Homeland Security's ongoing fear-mongering that a horrible attack is being aimed at the elections.

00:03:05.000 Of course, they can't give us any specifics, as we might find out about what their agents are planning to do.

00:03:09.000 Can't let Homeland Security get caught.

00:03:12.000 Across the news wires, the administration is letting us know that security is being vamped up in fear of a terrible attack.

00:03:20.000 We all know who stands to gain from such a horrific event.

00:03:24.000 We are being conditioned by this fear to accept the New World Order police state the globalist overlords will offer us should they proceed and orchestrate another horrible attack.

00:03:36.000 Consider this.

00:03:37.000 The fear-mongering is even getting attention in the mainstream media.

00:03:40.000 Last week, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that some believe Bush is spreading fear for his own means.

00:03:46.000 A lot bigger than Bush, folks.

00:03:48.000 Don't forget Tommy Franks, the General, in his December 2003 interview with Cigar Aficionado Magazine stating that, Massive, casually producing events might cause our population to question our own Constitution and begin to militarize our country.

00:04:04.000 You can read the Tommy Franks martial law will replace Constitution after next terror attack.

00:04:09.000 Could this really happen?

00:04:10.000 Don't forget the Hegelian dialectic of problem or the action solution has been played out by power crazy dictators many many times throughout history and also see 9-11 the road to tyranny for examples.

00:04:22.000 Then we get into the election day worries.

00:04:27.000 Where they get into the latest issue of Newsweek telling us basically give up all your rights and the new homeland will keep you safe.

00:04:37.000 Alright, we'll talk about the CIA and voting systems and the takeover of that and how people are fighting back nationwide right here deep in the heart of Texas.

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00:08:11.000 folks it is monday that i thought it was about twenty five minutes from now

00:08:18.000 it is so transparent to see governor ridge on television in front of all the

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00:08:32.000 laughing and smiling and telling us how the terrorist are going to get us for

00:08:36.000 sure but they don't have any specifics and all that i have to suspend or

00:08:41.000 At least push off the election.

00:08:43.000 Meanwhile, the big voting machine companies have CIA directors, former CIA deputy directors, running them.

00:08:52.000 Their own engineers quit and say it's all a fraud.

00:08:55.000 We catch them stealing elections coast to coast.

00:08:58.000 The federal government is paying to force states to put these systems in.

00:09:03.000 They're fighting that there be no paper trail or no recount power.

00:09:07.000 I mean, this is all transparent.

00:09:11.000 I mean, no one who honestly looked at this could not clearly see what's happening.

00:09:15.000 Military dictatorship is being set up in America.

00:09:19.000 And John Kerry isn't going to save you, George Bush isn't going to save you.

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00:09:36.000 So we have fear-mongering and conditioning for total control, terror, martial law, and the end of the Constitution.

00:09:42.000 We've written a little blurb about this Newsweek article about, oh, they may suspend the elections again.

00:09:47.000 Ridge is saying it.

00:09:48.000 U.S.

00:09:49.000 mulling how to delay November vote in case of attack or suspend it.

00:09:54.000 A senior House Democratic lawmaker was skeptical on Sunday of a Bush administration idea to obtain the authority to delay the November presidential election in case of an attack by Al Qaeda.

00:10:05.000 U.S.

00:10:05.000 counterterrorism officials are looking at an emergency proposal on the legal steps needed to postpone the presidential election in case of such an attack, Newsweek reported on Sunday.

00:10:14.000 Oh, you really broke the story we've been covering for years.

00:10:17.000 I think it's excessive based on what we know as Representative Jane Harmon of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, in an interview on CNN's Late Edition.

00:10:27.000 Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned last week that Osama Bin Laden, that's Bush's business partner, As Al-Syed, his network head, want to attack within the United States to try to disrupt the election.

00:10:40.000 They talk about Spain, which was clearly a Spanish government operation.

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00:11:00.000 This is all amazing.

00:11:01.000 Joining us from here in Austin, Texas is Bev Harris.

00:11:05.000 We've had her on the broadcast many, many times, and she's shaken the foundations of this criminal movement to steal our right to vote in our republic. 0.92

00:11:14.000 She's going to be at the Capitol tomorrow with a press conference, and she's going to be bringing forward information to the Secretary of State and others about the situation in Texas and all over the country, and we're honored to have her with us.

00:11:27.000 Bev Harris, good to have you on.

00:11:28.000 Hi there, Alex.

00:11:31.000 You're here in Austin.

00:11:32.000 Tell us, just for those who just joined us, in a nutshell, what's wrong with these electronic voting systems and then why you're here in Austin and how folks can get involved.

00:11:42.000 All right.

00:11:43.000 Well, actually we're doing a 14-state tour.

00:11:46.000 We got the funding, and obviously we are still looking for funding, but we got the seed funding to start a non-profit publicly funded consumer protection group for elections.

00:11:57.000 And we are on a 14-state investigative tour.

00:12:00.000 We're spending quite a bit of time in Texas, as you can imagine.

00:12:05.000 And we will be also doing the press conference tomorrow in conjunction with the events on electronic voting down there at the state capitol.

00:12:16.000 And I've got a fundraiser tomorrow night, too.

00:12:18.000 So I'm going to be breaking the news.

00:12:20.000 I'll be putting that up on my website shortly.

00:12:22.000 And I'm going to break the news of some of the things that we've discovered that I have not released anywhere yet when I'm there.

00:12:29.000 Well, I'll tell you what, just give us a little bit of that now.

00:12:33.000 You bet.

00:12:33.000 I've got two full-time investigators.

00:12:35.000 Actually, I've got a third one that I've brought in that we've been working with, too.

00:12:39.000 And we're investigating the money trail right now.

00:12:41.000 We want to know who got paid, and we're also finding out, you know, how did these things...

00:12:49.000 Yes, there's all kinds of problems and we know that, but who made the decision?

00:12:54.000 Because you see, we had to find some way to persuade all these 2400 county election people to buy these flawed machines.

00:13:03.000 How did that happen?

00:13:04.000 And I'm going to tell you, the mechanism is very interesting.

00:13:08.000 All kinds of things have been done.

00:13:09.000 Payoffs have been done.

00:13:11.000 Um, pretty much whatever it takes.

00:13:13.000 Well, in our own investigation a year ago as they were preparing for these new systems in Austin, it led us back to similar situations.

00:13:21.000 Right.

00:13:21.000 I mean, uh, uh, Bev, in a nutshell, what's wrong with the voting systems?

00:13:25.000 And then let's get into your movement against it.

00:13:28.000 Sure.

00:13:29.000 Well, the voting system, we're not auditing them.

00:13:32.000 Even the ones that you could audit, we're not auditing.

00:13:34.000 For some reason, they've made it so that you no longer audit elections.

00:13:37.000 Auditing simply means checks and balances to make sure that, you know, you can't cheat.

00:13:42.000 And they've taken those out.

00:13:45.000 And, you know, the machines themselves, we now know, they miscount.

00:13:49.000 For whatever reason, they don't count correctly.

00:13:52.000 And they're designed so you can engage in this fraud.

00:13:55.000 Absolutely.

00:13:55.000 They've got all kinds of, I guess you'd call them features, not bugs, that allow people to go in and change results.

00:14:03.000 For example, to input negative votes or minus votes.

00:14:07.000 There's no legitimate reason whatsoever to have a voting machine have a feature to input negative or minus votes.

00:14:17.000 No, there's not.

00:14:21.000 And some of the people running these voting machine companies, former CI directors, former deputy directors, you've gotten in on these internal meetings and discussions where they're going, we can't let anybody know we're doing this, it could be considered racketeering.

00:14:36.000 I mean, it just goes on and on.

00:14:38.000 You've had engineers go public and say it's all a fraud, but then that's in the back of some news wire.

00:14:45.000 The best description I heard recently when we were going over some of this is it's like Mad Magazine.

00:14:45.000 Right.

00:14:53.000 I mean, it's one problem compounding on top of another on top of another and it really is kind of Bizarre, and it makes you want... you know there has to be more to it.

00:15:05.000 Well, why do we have Ben Harris not having to do this?

00:15:08.000 Because the League of Women Voters has been publicly saying they don't want an audit trail, they don't want a record, but we send people to oversee and audit third world countries that have paper ballots, but here in America, if you want to know how something's working or be able to have a recount, why, you're crazy!

00:15:25.000 Well, and understand, one of the things, too, I find very interesting is Black Box Voting, which is our group, we set up something where we have about 2,000 people who will be monitoring the machines to catch them in the act of miscounting and phone it into a hotline.

00:15:38.000 We're not really revealing how we're doing it, but we've got a plan there.

00:15:42.000 Well, interestingly enough, the same guy that's out there saying we need to try to cancel elections was also speaking out against monitoring elections.

00:15:51.000 What possible reason could there be for the head of the Election Assistance Commission to say, I don't think it's a good idea to have election monitors?

00:15:59.000 And then last week he told the Associated Press, we may need to cancel the elections or push them off, Bev.

00:16:05.000 And then on top of this, they're saying they're going to have Homeland Security at the polls, I guess, to make sure the fraud goes by nicely.

00:16:13.000 Well, and I'm glad you brought up this business about canceling or postponement.

00:16:17.000 This is something we've got to nip in the bud.

00:16:19.000 Let me tell you what, Americans, this is a plan B. The plan B is paper, ballot, pencil, day off to count the votes.

00:16:26.000 There's a plan B. Canceling the election is not a plan B.

00:16:31.000 That is just simply giving away democracy over fear.

00:16:34.000 Well, this is pretty obvious.

00:16:35.000 I mean, we've got them dancing around going, Al-Qaeda's going to get you.

00:16:38.000 We may have martial law.

00:16:40.000 They're actually saying martial law.

00:16:41.000 We may cancel elections.

00:16:43.000 By the way, don't worry that the CIA publicly runs most of these companies.

00:16:47.000 Ha ha ha.

00:16:48.000 You know, don't mind the cameras going up and the men in black ski masks and the prisons being built everywhere.

00:16:53.000 We're here to take care of you.

00:16:54.000 I mean, Bev, this is like a scary science fiction novel.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, and the thing is, Because we've got to stop it right now.

00:17:00.000 We've got to say, look, every time that comes up, people have to vocally, immediately say, no, we're not canceling elections.

00:17:07.000 We didn't cancel them in the Civil War.

00:17:09.000 We didn't cancel them in World War II.

00:17:12.000 There is no reason to cancel.

00:17:14.000 Postponing, we're talking, if it's physically impossible to hold an election, you may delay it for one day.

00:17:21.000 This business about cancelling or postponing is inappropriate and frankly the guy who keeps talking about this should be replaced.

00:17:29.000 This is not appropriate.

00:17:30.000 Tell us about this Ed Minion.

00:17:35.000 Well, Forrest D'Souza, who runs this new thing now, which was appointed by the President, he runs this new agency called the Election Assistance Commission and basically it seems to be the opposite.

00:17:48.000 He's talking about how to cancel elections And this is what the CIA has done in more than 50 other countries, going in, scamming elections, canceling elections, and now they're just running the CIA off on America!

00:18:03.000 Well, you know, the funny thing is, they brought in, think about this, they had a bunch of election officials, a small handful, who pushed these unauditable voting machines into every county in America that they could.

00:18:17.000 These people pushed a flawed system, and we now know that.

00:18:20.000 The same people that did that are the same people that got appointed to this new commission.

00:18:25.000 Now, Ireland had it right. 0.70

00:18:27.000 Ireland had touchscreen voting machines.

00:18:29.000 They realized they were flawed.

00:18:31.000 They got rid of them.

00:18:32.000 They fired the minister who bought them.

00:18:35.000 They said, hey, we could have spent 40 million euros on something a lot better than this.

00:18:40.000 You're out of here.

00:18:41.000 These guys, in our country, wasted not tens, but hundreds of millions of dollars on this stuff.

00:18:48.000 And we rewarded them by putting them on this commission.

00:18:51.000 Well, there's also now this federal funding for, what, over $5 billion to force the states to put this in, Beth.

00:18:59.000 Well, exactly.

00:19:00.000 But the thing is, if you really read that statute, it doesn't force them to.

00:19:04.000 What happens is you've got this, again, small handful of officials who are telling everyone that's what it says.

00:19:09.000 Nobody wants to read the hundred pages.

00:19:11.000 And in the hundred pages it says, you can even keep punch cards if you want to do it.

00:19:16.000 You just have to clean out your machines and educate the voters.

00:19:19.000 But that's not what these officials are saying.

00:19:21.000 They're saying, oh, the law says you have to go get touch screens.

00:19:25.000 It does not.

00:19:25.000 You're right.

00:19:26.000 I've read the law and it does say that.

00:19:27.000 But again, they're saying that.

00:19:29.000 The people think that.

00:19:30.000 Bev, when we get back, I want to talk about the press conference tomorrow, how folks can come to the meeting.

00:19:34.000 uh... in your fourteen state tour of the only get shipped back up tomorrow we can

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00:24:15.000 and Bev Harris has agreed that the last 30 minutes of the show today, the broadcast, to

00:24:20.000 come back on so we can have some more time with her.

00:24:22.000 So many developments.

00:24:23.000 This is her final segment right now because we already had David Icke set up.

00:24:27.000 She's here in Austin, Texas.

00:24:29.000 And she's here to promote a press conference she and others are having at the Capitol tomorrow and a meeting they're having.

00:24:37.000 In the next few days, you're going to hear some major developments from what she's discovered here in Central Texas, but she can't bring that out right now at this time until, well, let's just say, again, she's broken.

00:24:49.000 I don't know, hundreds of major bombshell stories.

00:24:53.000 And this new stuff, I talked to her about it during the break, is dynamite.

00:24:58.000 Just catching these people red-handed.

00:25:01.000 Bev, again, here in just the last few minutes with you, tell folks about the press conference right when the show starts tomorrow, actually, so I can't be there, at 11 a.m.

00:25:11.000 at the Capitol, how folks should come to that rally inside the Capitol, and then the meeting tomorrow night, how folks get involved in that.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, get over there, because you know what they do. 0.99

00:25:21.000 You want the TV cameras to... They'll try to minimize the size of the crowd, so maximize it.

00:25:26.000 Make it hard to minimize.

00:25:28.000 And, yeah, get over there, and we are going to be really telling folks how it is.

00:25:35.000 We're going to be bringing out the students about trying to cancel the election.

00:25:39.000 This is just something that... The American people have got to say no right now.

00:25:43.000 They've got to stop saying, oh, well, we don't think they're going to do this.

00:25:47.000 I mean, it's got to be nipped in the bud.

00:25:47.000 No.

00:25:50.000 And yet, we've got a bunch of things.

00:25:52.000 By the way, I wanted to mention real quickly something kind of ironic.

00:25:56.000 I have a lawsuit that was unsealed last Friday.

00:26:00.000 I am suing Diebold for, oh, you know, $40 million or so on behalf of the state of California to force Diebold to pay restitution.

00:26:10.000 But the kicker in this lawsuit is It's a whistleblower lawsuit that has a bounty, and if that part of it prevails, it will actually fund my organization.

00:26:21.000 So you would have people funding their archenemy.

00:26:26.000 I thought that was kind of ironic.

00:26:29.000 Now, tell folks which meeting hall, which conference room.

00:26:29.000 Just amazing.

00:26:36.000 It's in the Rotunda of the Capitol at 11 a.m.

00:26:39.000 tomorrow, and then when I come back on at 1.30, I have to tell you I've been on the road and doing investigations so much I don't even know where my own fundraiser is.

00:26:46.000 I will go and check that and have that information for you.

00:26:49.000 Well, that's going to be at the Unitarian Church.

00:26:52.000 I think they said from what, seven until ten or something?

00:26:56.000 Right, right, yeah.

00:26:58.000 I heard it being announced on the radio.

00:27:00.000 We can really get into the details of what's going on and I gotta tell ya, we have two full-time investigators and we have been out there getting all kinds of new information that nobody not even Nobody's been able to get.

00:27:15.000 Okay, everybody by like 1045 should get to the Capitol tomorrow.

00:27:18.000 Take off work.

00:27:20.000 I mean, your right to vote, I think, is important enough.

00:27:23.000 Or ask for a couple hours off for an early lunch hour or two.

00:27:27.000 Bring your boss with you, or if you're the boss, bring your employees with you for a couple hours.

00:27:32.000 Get down to the Capitol.

00:27:35.000 I mean, if you don't for this, what will you do it for?

00:27:38.000 And go in there, and you're going to be bringing forward your evidence.

00:27:41.000 Of course, I heard of the Secretary of State.

00:27:43.000 And then tomorrow night, and when you're on in the third hour with us, you can give us the directions and the actual time.

00:27:50.000 I know it's tomorrow at the Unitarian Church here in Austin, Texas.

00:27:55.000 And then later this week, we're going to have you on.

00:27:59.000 Once you're out of town, you can give us the developments of the dark issue uncovered here in Austin.

00:28:04.000 Oh, I have to tell you, these things are going to keep developing throughout the month.

00:28:07.000 We've got enough to, we are actually, we have enough to get to launching a new book, which just like the last one we'll be putting online for free.

00:28:15.000 It's called The Black Box Shuffle. 0.66

00:28:17.000 And this is about what the administrators are doing.

00:28:19.000 Okay, The Black Box Shuffle, another free online book, great deal.

00:28:23.000 And the website for folks to check?

00:28:25.000 Is blackboxvoting.org.

00:28:27.000 And it's in construction right now, so it's a little ugly, but it's got tons of information.

00:28:32.000 No, it's a great website, blackboxvoting.org.

00:28:35.000 And so, you're going to be back on with us in the third hour, but again, are you seeing people wake up?

00:28:45.000 Because I hear everybody talking about, you know, Demold and election fraud now all over the place.

00:28:51.000 Let me tell you something.

00:28:53.000 I was in Canton, Ohio talking to Diebold employees, and Diebold would hate this if they knew how many are talking to me, but... Bev, are you there?

00:29:04.000 The Diebold employees don't even know!

00:29:07.000 They're in the dark about this!

00:29:10.000 They're like, we have a problem!

00:29:15.000 Well, there's been engineers of major companies quit and go public and say that it's a scam.

00:29:19.000 Well, there have been.

00:29:21.000 It's spotty.

00:29:22.000 It's like people either totally get it, or they have absolutely no clue.

00:29:26.000 It's growing, but we need way more public awareness of this.

00:29:28.000 And it's scary when the employees of a company aren't even aware that it's having a controversy.

00:29:35.000 Alright, Bev Harris, we'll talk to you in two hours.

00:29:39.000 Two hours from now, we'll be talking to you here on the air again, and I appreciate you calling back into the broadcast.

00:29:45.000 We'll talk to you then, okay?

00:29:47.000 Okay, great, thanks.

00:29:48.000 Thanks, bye.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

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00:33:13.000 Another ragtag band declaring their independence.

00:33:19.000 They laid their bodies down.

00:33:25.000 In a bloody war.

00:33:28.000 For liberty, for their descendants.

00:33:32.000 Thank God for the renegades.

00:33:36.000 We're free today, my friends.

00:33:38.000 I tell you, we're free if in our minds we believe we're free, ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:43.000 So much of this cage they've built, the announcements of plans to suspend the election, martial law being good, the good guys wear black ski masks, they're here to save you, don't ask questions, it's treason to criticize the government.

00:33:59.000 If you buy into that psychological, spiritual cage, then you will be a slave.

00:34:03.000 But with God's help, we can't expose this new world order system.

00:34:08.000 All right, here in about a minute or two, we'll have David Eickhup with us, and we're going to talk about who David Eickhup is, and what he thinks of this discussion of suspending the election.

00:34:16.000 We know they've been gearing up for martial law for a long time, and this is all part of the acclamation process.

00:34:21.000 We'll get into that.

00:34:22.000 We'll talk about the Iraq War.

00:34:24.000 We'll talk about what the new world order will look like if they succeed.

00:34:29.000 And we'll get his long-term analysis of what he thinks is going to develop.

00:34:35.000 And then, of course, in the next hour, we're going to open the phones up for you, if you'd like to talk to David Icke.

00:34:42.000 In fact, the toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

00:34:46.000 In the last 30 minutes of the third hour, after David leaves us, we have Bev Harris of Black Box Voting.

00:34:55.000 Joining us to expose the fact that the elections are now rigged here in the U.S.

00:35:01.000 So why would they want to suspend the elections if they're rigged?

00:35:03.000 To train us to not even have the illusion of an election.

00:35:07.000 This is about getting us into martial law and selling us martial law as something that keeps us safe.

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00:37:16.000 Expose the murderers of 9-11.

00:37:19.000 It's very hard for me to sit up there and watch Ridge in front of his TV screens, fear-mongering, talking about canceling elections, saying the terrorists are going to hit us, and knowing that they are the perpetrators.

00:37:30.000 I mean, it's hard to watch, you know, Ted Bundy sit up there on TV and talk about how he's saving all these women when we know he does the opposite.

00:37:30.000 Knowing!

00:37:39.000 You know, there's my analogy.

00:37:41.000 So let's expose them, one mind at a time.

00:37:44.000 And the globalists know that the consciousness level, the awareness level has reached a boiling point.

00:37:50.000 That's why the New York Times came out.

00:37:53.000 Last, what, Wednesday, and we have the article on InfoWars.com, and said, oh yeah, the Bilderberg Group picked Edwards to be the VP.

00:38:00.000 They called Kerry and said, we like him.

00:38:03.000 Five years ago, I was a raving kook maniac because I believed in it. 1.00

00:38:06.000 The New York Times attacked me because I said the Bilderberg Group was a real organization.

00:38:11.000 It was public!

00:38:12.000 David Icke's been attacked for it.

00:38:14.000 All we're talking about is real things.

00:38:17.000 Alright, enough of me rambling on.

00:38:18.000 I hope you get the films and get them out to people.

00:38:20.000 But they're having to respond.

00:38:22.000 David Icke, good to have you on with us, sir.

00:38:24.000 Nice to talk to you again, Alex.

00:38:26.000 David, that's a good place to start.

00:38:29.000 Why are they now having to reveal more than they ever revealed before at such an accelerated rate?

00:38:36.000 Well, I think it's something I've been talking about for a long time, which is when something's remained hidden, but wishes to bring about a certain restructuring of society.

00:38:49.000 A restructuring that we can see, touch and taste.

00:38:52.000 There is obviously a point, a window of time when all that's remained hidden starts to hit the surface because it's being put into place in front of our eyes.

00:39:00.000 It's restructuring society.

00:39:02.000 So this has been going on for a very, very long time.

00:39:06.000 Manipulating behind the scenes to bring about this restructuring and now it's manifesting.

00:39:12.000 Since 9-11, of course, it has expanded and advanced very rapidly.

00:39:19.000 And now they're looking in the next few years to put this world global fascist Orwellian state into place and therefore as they've reached that stage in their journey we have to see it and we are seeing it and this is not why now what you and me have been talking about all these years and other people too is no longer sometime never somewhere over some dark rainbow Watch out, this is coming if we're not careful.

00:39:44.000 This is here.

00:39:45.000 Big Brother is in our face because it's reaching the point in its time scale where it wishes to introduce what it's been working towards for so long.

00:39:54.000 That's right.

00:39:55.000 Now, David, you've got a powerful telephone.

00:39:58.000 Can you back off that thing for us?

00:39:59.000 Okay, I'll do it.

00:40:02.000 Go ahead and talk again.

00:40:03.000 Is that better?

00:40:04.000 Yeah, that's better.

00:40:06.000 We might have to switch phones later.

00:40:07.000 I apologize.

00:40:08.000 It's just really distorting because your voice is strong.

00:40:11.000 Listen, I totally agree with you.

00:40:14.000 They've got the bills introduced for a draft, they're announcing they want a draft, but then when we criticize it, they say it doesn't exist.

00:40:22.000 That tactic of double-think, where they announce it, then when we criticize it, we're crazy and it doesn't exist.

00:40:30.000 How do you counter that?

00:40:32.000 Well, we are at this strange fork in the road, Alex, where People are now being given a very blatant choice which road they want to take because it's becoming so blatant that people like you and me, as I say, have been saying these things are coming and now having an ever greater credibility because those things are here.

00:40:59.000 And so people are now at a point where they cannot hide from this anymore.

00:41:04.000 They can't say, oh, that's just a theory.

00:41:06.000 They can't say, oh, no.

00:41:08.000 The Bilderberg Group, that's just some idea, some theory.

00:41:11.000 I love this genetic problem that so many humans seem to have.

00:41:16.000 They cannot put the word conspiracy out on its own.

00:41:19.000 They have to follow it with theory.

00:41:21.000 The two have to go together.

00:41:23.000 You're just a conspiracy theorist.

00:41:25.000 Well, when you talk about the power of the Skull and Bone Society over the years, and then you find that the two candidates for the coming election are both initiates of a secret society that has relatively A tiny membership, compared with the 270, 80 million people in America, a country which we're told anyone can become president in, and yet this small elite secret society has produced both candidates.

00:41:49.000 When you see the basic freedoms being taken away, in America and my own country too, when you see the legislation for the draft is there, and of course not only the legislation for the draft, But the clear necessity of it, when you look at the agenda outlined by the Project for the Euro-American Century, the creators and authors of which have run the Bush administration since it came to power, it talks about the need to have America fight and win simultaneous major theatres of war as a core mission.

00:42:26.000 It's very clear there are not enough people in uniform Voluntarily to carry that out.

00:42:32.000 So what does that lead us to understand?

00:42:34.000 They're going to have to introduce the draft.

00:42:36.000 Never mind the legislations there to be seen.

00:42:39.000 That's an obvious follow on from following that agenda.

00:42:43.000 They're going to need people forcibly in the military. 0.94

00:42:47.000 So when you've got all these things happening now, and it's much easier, I've found in my own experience, to get people to see what's going on because you can point it out happening in

00:43:00.000 front of their eyes which is why this window of time we're in now

00:43:04.000 is absolutely crucial to stopping the doors being closed on freedom because people

00:43:11.000 can now see it happening in front of their eyes. My own experience

00:43:15.000 is that the number of people waking up is vastly increasing.

00:43:18.000 I've spoken in Los Angeles.

00:43:21.000 The last time I spoke in Los Angeles, I think it was about 500 people there, maximum, maybe less, a few years ago now.

00:43:27.000 Two weeks ago there were nearly 3,000.

00:43:29.000 And they came from all walks of life.

00:43:31.000 And what's really, really encouraging, and you'll have found this too, Alex, is when you put people who have had no background of Researching this, in front of this information, and it's presented in a logical way, where A leads to B leads to C, you can see their minds open.

00:43:52.000 And there's a number of people, a significant number of people in Los Angeles, who knew nothing of this, who'd been brought by people who'd been researching it and just said, just watch it.

00:44:02.000 And it had an amazing effect on them.

00:44:05.000 So the only thing that's stopping us being even more successful in bringing this I'm really glad that Michael Moore movies out there because it is showing large numbers of people that they're being lied to on one level.

00:44:25.000 But I have to say, you know, and having been involved in this all these years, it did depress me a little bit that such a massive opportunity was lost in getting over what's really happening Yeah, he only gives... Because I've seen that if people are put in front of it, and it's done in a logical, coordinated way, that the world suddenly makes sense to people as it never has before.

00:44:48.000 Well, David, look, I agree with you, and I tell this story every week because it's the best news I have from the front lines of the information war.

00:44:56.000 I've done Over 1600 radio interviews since September 11th.

00:45:01.000 I would imagine you've done hundreds or even thousands as well, I'm not sure.

00:45:04.000 But I do 3-4 interviews a day most days.

00:45:08.000 And 5-6 years ago, half the callers to shows disagreed with me to my own show.

00:45:13.000 But on my own broadcast, but not just my own broadcast, on other liberal, conservative, Christian, Libertarian shows.

00:45:21.000 We'll go two hours and maybe one person calls in that disagrees out of thirty callers and they're incoherent and hateful.

00:45:28.000 So I've seen a total shift.

00:45:30.000 I don't mean a partial shift, a total shift and that's got to be panicking the globalists but that means that even if their plans behind schedule and they've got problems, I now see them pulling out all the stops trying to rampage, accelerate their program The consequences be damned, as they say, into this new world order, which is dangerous for globalists and for those of us fighting them.

00:45:55.000 So let me ask you, what do you see them doing in the next five months?

00:46:00.000 What do you see unfolding?

00:46:02.000 Well, first of all, I completely agree with you, both in terms of the awakening.

00:46:08.000 My experience in radio shows has been the same.

00:46:10.000 When I started talking about this in the early mid-90s, Crikey, the abuse you used to get on radio stations. 1.00

00:46:17.000 You know, you're mad, you're an idiot, you're just an anarchist and all this stuff. 0.99

00:46:22.000 And now that has dramatically changed because people are looking at their own experience. 1.00

00:46:28.000 It's becoming obvious.

00:46:30.000 But in terms of the awakening, starting to panic these people, that's absolutely right.

00:46:38.000 I feel a sense of panic, a sense of, we must get this through, we must get this structure in place, because otherwise we're going to run out of time because these people are waking up.

00:46:49.000 And I do feel that a lot of the stuff that's happening now is coming from a position of panic and desperation, which means they're going to make mistakes.

00:46:59.000 And they're making a heck of a lot of mistakes.

00:47:01.000 I mean, people are only going to look into the official story of 9-11 on a really basic level to say that it's an insult to the intelligence that could possibly have happened.

00:47:12.000 David, their official story is impossible and we've proven every step of their official story to be a fraud.

00:47:19.000 There isn't a jury that was honest when presented with our evidence that would not convict the military industrial complex of carrying out 9-11.

00:47:27.000 Agreed.

00:47:28.000 You know, you can corner a rat and that's when a rat will panic and it will flash out at you.

00:47:36.000 And so, in terms of this Illuminati agenda, I can see panic measures, atrocities, to be blamed on terrorist groups, which at the very least are nothing like as massive and organized as they claim to be.

00:47:55.000 And, you know, when you hear things like we want to suspend the election if there is a terrorist attack, you have people like Tommy Franks, of course, a Bush family friend who was heavily involved in the invasion of Iraq, who said publicly a few months ago that if ever there was a chemical, biological attack on America, there would have to be military government to cope with it.

00:48:20.000 So clearly this problem reaction solution technique that they use is going to be used with serious consequences in the months ahead because if they don't try to panic people out of their present and increasing skepticism with those in authority then their whole agenda is going to collapse.

00:48:44.000 We have a situation now in In America, where more and more people are beginning to open their minds to the Bush administration, it's... I mean, you know when it's lying, because its lips are moving.

00:48:56.000 And somehow, we have this big thing in Iraq, with all these soldiers dying, and civilians dying, and all this stuff, and to be fair, Michael Moore's movie has brought that more to public attention, the consequences of that war.

00:49:12.000 And so, unless They come up with more versions of 9-11 to try to change public opinion in favour of, we must do something about terrorism, then this whole agenda is going to stop because of skepticism.

00:49:28.000 And of course in Britain, well crikey, try to find someone in Britain now that believes a word that Tony Blair says.

00:49:35.000 So Blair has the same problem.

00:49:37.000 How do we move this agenda on?

00:49:40.000 When my lives have been exposed, when we have all this grotesque trouble in Iraq, how do we move it on? 1.00

00:49:46.000 How do we go for Iraq? 0.61

00:49:48.000 How do we go for Saudi Arabia?

00:49:49.000 How do we go for these other people?

00:49:51.000 And it's going to be the old fallback position that they've used for literally thousands of years.

00:49:58.000 Well, I agree with you, David.

00:49:59.000 The events which you blame on the enemy, and then you attack the enemy that you've convinced people is responsible.

00:50:05.000 Now, David, when we get back, I want to talk about something now.

00:50:07.000 They can steal the election with their CIA voting machines.

00:50:10.000 They've got both the candidates controlled.

00:50:12.000 Why would they want to then openly suspend it?

00:50:15.000 And the answer is to train us that martial law and suspension of elections is a normal event.

00:50:21.000 This is going to be the cover for martial law if they decide to activate this.

00:50:25.000 And now it's not Alex Jones or David Icke saying they're going to have terror attacks and suspend the election.

00:50:30.000 Now they're openly saying it, David.

00:50:33.000 It's a mind game, Alex, as we know.

00:50:37.000 You can't control the people through physical means.

00:50:41.000 You control some of the people through physical means.

00:50:43.000 You can't control billions.

00:50:45.000 You have to do it by manipulating them to believe, accept, and see the world in the way you want them to see it.

00:50:53.000 Stay there.

00:50:53.000 That's it.

00:50:54.000 We've got a break.

00:50:54.000 We'll be back with David Icke.

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00:54:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:54:14.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

00:54:19.000 And it burns, burns, burns.

00:54:21.000 The truth hurts, my friends.

00:54:23.000 A lot worse to not know the truth and stumble into these pitfalls.

00:54:26.000 We love your family.

00:54:29.000 You care about yourself.

00:54:30.000 You'll research history and see that tyranny, abuse, torture, power-mad megalomaniacs are the norm.

00:54:38.000 Freedom is the exception.

00:54:40.000 And the prison is your own mind.

00:54:43.000 And if we don't wake up to this horror, it's over.

00:54:45.000 I mean, we have the official U.S.

00:54:47.000 government plans to carry out 9-11.

00:54:49.000 Operation Northwoods.

00:54:50.000 They explain why they want to remote control jets and crash them and blame it on foreign enemies.

00:54:54.000 To bomb D.C. 0.99

00:54:56.000 To kill Marines and blame it on foreign enemies.

00:55:00.000 And then we have all the evidence of 9-11 in my film and in David Icke's great book.

00:55:04.000 9-11, the Alice in Wonderland, attack on the World Trade Centers.

00:55:11.000 I mean, this is the reality.

00:55:14.000 And their story has been proven to be a fraud, and it just takes you having the courage to face it.

00:55:22.000 Because see, 9-11, it doesn't stop with 9-11.

00:55:24.000 9-11 is just a primer.

00:55:26.000 Each attack gets bigger.

00:55:28.000 They plan attacks now on their own think tanks.

00:55:31.000 They're saying millions of dead.

00:55:33.000 Everyone with a national ID card.

00:55:35.000 Everyone with a microchip.

00:55:36.000 Neighborhood watch.

00:55:38.000 Searching your home.

00:55:40.000 Millions of us in a national draft.

00:55:42.000 Here domestically.

00:55:43.000 I mean, this is all admitted.

00:55:45.000 A literal Soviet slash Nazi amalgamation with an overlay of a high-tech control grid. 0.80

00:55:51.000 And the globalists know you don't read their policy reports.

00:55:54.000 I do.

00:55:55.000 And they say they're going to do this to you.

00:55:57.000 And a lot of people in the system know this is true now, but out of fear, have decided to join this.

00:56:02.000 David Icke, we're not just dealing with ignorant people in self-denial and in willful ignorance because they're subconsciously afraid of the truth, because everybody knows the truth.

00:56:12.000 Everybody listening to me knows this is true.

00:56:14.000 In your guts, in your soul, and in the facts when you look at it, intellectually, it's true.

00:56:18.000 At every level of your mind and soul, you know it's true.

00:56:21.000 You can try to deny it, but many people I found, David, decide to join this because they are afraid of it, because they think they'll be safe.

00:56:30.000 What would you say to those millions of people who know this is true, but have decided to join it, David?

00:56:36.000 Well, first of all, you're absolutely right.

00:56:39.000 The four-letter word that is behind all this is fear.

00:56:42.000 It's fear of terrorist attack.

00:56:45.000 It's fear of this, fear of that.

00:56:46.000 Once you're in fear, they gotcha.

00:56:49.000 Because people who are in fear of something invariably look outside of themselves for someone to protect them from what they've been manipulated to fear.

00:56:56.000 So fear is what they want to get us in.

00:56:59.000 And they do not understand, because of their mentality, people who are not in fear.

00:57:03.000 And so they can't understand mavericks.

00:57:07.000 They can't work them out.

00:57:08.000 They don't know how to deal with them.

00:57:09.000 People who will say things fearlessly because, you know, these different levels of this Illuminati are terrified of each other because of the consequences from the level above of not doing what they're told to do.

00:57:23.000 They are an edifice, a pyramid of fear which uses fear to manipulate the global population.

00:57:31.000 What I would say to people who think that through fear they will join them and that

00:57:35.000 will be fine is they will use you for as long as necessary and then you will be in the camps

00:57:40.000 as well because they use the people that are useful to them for as long as they are useful

00:57:48.000 to them and then they just become surplus to requirements and become the same as everyone

00:57:53.000 else.

00:57:54.000 Well David?

00:57:55.000 They see the global population that are not really on the inside of this as cackle and

00:58:01.000 to be used and abused as necessary.

00:58:03.000 Well, David, that's just history.

00:58:09.000 And an example is, they've now not charged one, but three different people in Iraq and Afghanistan, torture masters they hired to go over there.

00:58:17.000 They're now charging them with the Patriot Act, so they can't speak out, and can't have public trials, and can't have lawyers, so they can't say, hey, I was ordered to do this.

00:58:29.000 What they do is use people for as long as possible, as long as necessary, and then if it suits them to do something else, they'll do the opposite.

00:58:37.000 The key is this, the agenda, that people say that this whole thing's a conspiracy.

00:58:44.000 We got a break again.

00:58:44.000 Hey, watch, stay there.

00:58:46.000 Second hour coming up.

00:58:46.000 up we'll continue with this discussion of fear-based mind control.

00:58:53.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Alright, we're into hour number two.

00:59:21.000 Come on.

00:59:23.000 From Los Angeles to Providence, Rhode Island.

00:59:25.000 From Austin, Texas to Kansas City, Missouri.

00:59:28.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:59:29.000 Websites are PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:59:33.000 DavidIke.com is the website of our guest, David Ike.

00:59:36.000 And your calls are coming up early in this hour.

00:59:38.000 We're going to have David for a whole other hour and a half, honored to have him.

00:59:43.000 Just got back from a record crowd in L.A., 3,000 people there to hear him speak.

00:59:48.000 So much of what David has talked about, and I've talked about, and others have talked about, is now mainstream news in your face.

00:59:53.000 Discussions of suspending the election.

00:59:55.000 Martial law being good. 0.96

00:59:56.000 When they start announcing it, it means they're planning to carry it out.

00:59:59.000 How do we stop them?

01:00:00.000 We'll answer that question coming up later.

01:00:02.000 But, talking about fear.

01:00:04.000 Once you let fear pass over you and through you, and put it in God's hands, and commit yourself to not, you know, the instinct of fear is still there.

01:00:15.000 You just I mean, it actually gives me a warming effect.

01:00:19.000 I'm just not worried about it because I realize intellectually and spiritually that fighting evil is the only course.

01:00:26.000 When you give in to it, it gets bigger and bigger and worse and worse.

01:00:29.000 It's a fraud.

01:00:30.000 It's a con game that cowering to it keeps you safe.

01:00:33.000 And a lot of you deep down know this is true, so you've decided to try to join in or go along with it, and that's ensuring it wins.

01:00:39.000 You're truly alive once you commit yourself to doing the right thing and getting past your fear and move into action.

01:00:47.000 David Icke, can you speak to that?

01:00:50.000 Well, what I would say to people is when you come to the end of this little journey on earth, when you look back at your life, how would you feel about yourself?

01:01:02.000 Will you feel good that you kept your head down and your mouth shut because you allowed a few crackpots to frighten you into submission and subservience?

01:01:12.000 Will that make you feel good about what you've done or will you feel good if you know that You didn't succumb to fear.

01:01:20.000 You let justice be the guide for what you did and didn't do and what you did say and didn't say.

01:01:25.000 And that you stood up and campaigned for justice for all people and freedom for all people.

01:01:35.000 The question has an obvious answer.

01:01:38.000 Are we going to go through our lives and then be desperately disappointed about what we've done or are we going to be really, really You know, I'm delighted with the way we reacted.

01:01:49.000 That's the fork in the road I talked about earlier.

01:01:52.000 We can keep our heads down and we can be good citizens of the global fascist Orwellian state.

01:01:59.000 It might save us from a few knocks on the door that other people get and all that stuff in the long term.

01:02:05.000 Or, we can go down the other road and make sure there are no knocks on the door for anyone by exposing this.

01:02:11.000 And that's what we need to do.

01:02:13.000 Get the information that it exists out to vast numbers of people because it is the secrecy, the non-awareness through this period that this whole stuff is going on that has allowed it to reach this stage.

01:02:28.000 We now have an opportunity to inform people.

01:02:31.000 Because, at the peak of this pyramid of manipulation, there are a tiny number of people, tiny compared with the global population.

01:02:41.000 They can only do this to us if we acquiesce with the building of our own prisons.

01:02:47.000 And that's what we've been doing.

01:02:49.000 Now we have the opportunity, and we can't claim ignorance any longer, to actually start dismantling these prisons and start uh... reaching a point where these tiny few are no longer dictating the lives of billions and that means letting go of fear and I'll say this from my own experience fearing something uh... is far more uh... an ordeal far more terrifying than actually doing it uh... people say to me, oh you must have lots of courage doing what you're doing

01:03:24.000 I'm just doing what I believe to be right, without fear of the consequences.

01:03:27.000 That doesn't take courage.

01:03:29.000 Courage is to overcome fear.

01:03:30.000 When you don't have fear, you don't need courage to overcome it.

01:03:34.000 And doing it is so much easier than thinking about it.

01:03:37.000 I mean, look at you, what you're doing.

01:03:38.000 What I'm doing, what so many other people around the world are doing.

01:03:41.000 We'll be right back on the other side of this quick break.

01:03:41.000 We've got a break, David.

01:03:43.000 We'll continue to get into the news, and then your calls.

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01:07:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:16.000 Alright, eight minutes and twenty-five seconds into this second hour.

01:07:21.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:07:23.000 David Icke is our guest.

01:07:24.000 His website is davideicke.com.

01:07:26.000 I'll tell you about some of his books and materials later in this hour.

01:07:29.000 I know that Paul and Tim and Charles and Greg and Randy and many others are patiently holding.

01:07:33.000 Your calls are coming up here in this hour, back by the next segment.

01:07:38.000 But there's a lot I want to talk about with David Icke.

01:07:41.000 David, it's important that we discuss the false left-right paradigm or this false bipolar world.

01:07:51.000 They give us the illusion internationally that it's America versus Russia, or now the EU versus the American Union, or Bush versus Kerry.

01:08:00.000 But then even a cursory view shows that there's no real separation, but they need to give us that illusion of separation to get us psychologically to put ourselves mentally into one of the two camps to then freeze out any debate.

01:08:16.000 And an example of this is Three or four years ago, I saw globalist think-tank white papers that are declassified public stuff, where they say, look, the people are waking up that there's a world government.

01:08:28.000 So we've got to give them a fake choice.

01:08:30.000 They even say this, and this is in my film Police State 3, the documents, we need to give them a choice between a liberal world government and a conservative world government.

01:08:41.000 And so, America goes in as the bad cop, Kind of like the Soviets were in the last half of the last century. 0.96

01:08:47.000 We go in, take things over.

01:08:48.000 The EU and Europe chastises us.

01:08:51.000 Our leaders get caught as liars, get punished.

01:08:53.000 But then the holdings, the sovereign countries that are gobbled up by the globalists, stay within the system.

01:08:59.000 It's like Kerry and Edwards.

01:09:01.000 And Edwards was just at the Bilderberg Group getting anointed, and even the New York Times admitted that.

01:09:06.000 They're for the war, they're for the Pan-American Union, they're for the EU, they're for a domestic CIA. 0.73

01:09:13.000 There's no difference in action, just in rhetoric.

01:09:16.000 Can you speak to that?

01:09:18.000 And how to get people out of this tribal Republican-Democrat, Tory-Labor, EU-US mentality?

01:09:26.000 How do we get people past that to a freedom versus slavery paradigm?

01:09:32.000 Well, I think a lot of people are past it without realising it, because the number of times you hear people say, it doesn't matter who gets in, nothing changes, exactly.

01:09:43.000 So let's take that a stage further and ask the question, why, no matter who gets in, does nothing change?

01:09:50.000 Except, you quite rightly say, the rhetoric.

01:09:53.000 It's because when you are in a one-party state, and you know you're in a one-party state, then you can see

01:09:59.000 the bars on the prison cell and therefore you feel the need to get out of the cell.

01:10:05.000 If you sit there and you can't see the bars, which is what this Illuminati wants,

01:10:10.000 then you'll sit there not realizing you're in a prison cell.

01:10:13.000 You'll have the illusion that any time you choose, you can go wherever you like

01:10:19.000 because you can't see the bars.

01:10:20.000 The bars only hit you when you try to go past them and then you realize they're there.

01:10:26.000 So keep your head down, keep your mouth shut, you can have the illusion of freedom.

01:10:30.000 Try to express real freedom and suddenly you'll see the bars.

01:10:34.000 And so to overcome this...

01:10:37.000 obvious one-party state, once you look at it, they have to give us the illusion of choice.

01:10:42.000 And so what you have, and when you look at governments and elections, it always goes the same way.

01:10:51.000 Most countries have two, maybe three, parties that can form a government with any chance.

01:10:58.000 Usually two.

01:10:59.000 If you take the American or the British version, it's definitely two. 0.92

01:11:03.000 So what they do, the party that is in Power has the chance to change through legislation society to advance the agenda for the Orwellian state.

01:11:14.000 So it does so.

01:11:15.000 The party in opposition at that time does not have the power to do that, so it opposes the party doing it through rhetoric.

01:11:25.000 And so, hey, they're for something, they're against it.

01:11:28.000 Then eventually we have this farce called an election in which the parties change sides.

01:11:34.000 Now the party that was in opposition, now has the opportunity to change society through legislation and advance the Orwellian state.

01:11:43.000 So it does so.

01:11:44.000 And it does things that in opposition it said it would never do and was supposedly against.

01:11:50.000 The party that was introducing the Orwellian state in government is now the opposition, does not have the power to do so, so it now opposes that other party that is bringing in the Orwellian state.

01:12:03.000 So you have this And other policies too.

01:12:06.000 So this is why, as people who say nothing ever changes, no matter who gets in, have seen, that the common denominator is, whichever party's in power advances the agenda.

01:12:18.000 And this is why, again and again, you'll see parties come into government and then do the opposite of what they said they would do, and indeed do what they opposed in opposition.

01:12:28.000 And it's all a sleight of hand.

01:12:30.000 well they don't think it is the illusion of choice and hide the one-party state but this now we're reaching a point

01:12:37.000 where people are are paying it and and and i'm a lot more blatant

01:12:40.000 the uh... what more blatant example you have been carrying bush members of 1.00

01:12:44.000 the scum of our society as we discussed earlier okay so now understand folks are wrapped 0.97

01:12:51.000 will be in a maze and as long as it has lots of twists and turns in multi-levels 0.99

01:12:56.000 he thinks that his entire universe He thinks he has choices, but they're false choices.

01:13:02.000 And so they'll put Bush up there to do all this evil stuff, then we run out the escape hatch, You know, this doorway that says exit to carry, and it's right into the cat's mouth, right into the jaws of the tiger.

01:13:15.000 So again, it's left and right hands on this ogre's, you know, this one-eyed Cyclopsian New World Order system.

01:13:21.000 And so by seeing that paradigm, by getting outside the rat maze, that's how we get the freedom.

01:13:27.000 By exposing and saying, you know, we're against These particular policies, and we know you're all in it together.

01:13:33.000 I mean, take Bush.

01:13:35.000 Eighty-plus percent of Americans, Republicans and Democrats, Hispanic, white, black, are against open borders.

01:13:40.000 But the Democrats want open borders, so do the Republicans.

01:13:43.000 People are against gun control, but Bush says he'll sign the Assault Weapons Ban.

01:13:46.000 People are against the UN, but Bush signs on to UNESCO, and now says our troops will be under UN control, and will be charged by the International Criminal Court.

01:13:55.000 But then the conservatives all ignore that, but then expose that agenda being promoted by the Democrats, but then people are willfully blind to the Republicans promoting the exact same agenda.

01:14:05.000 So, you know, how do we set about changing that, David?

01:14:09.000 You know, take these electronic voting machines that are going in, and there's no record of how you vote, riddled with fraud, run by the CIA publicly, and then they say, oh, you're a kook because you want to know how you voted. 0.61

01:14:20.000 You want to be able to have a recount.

01:14:23.000 Well, I think, you know, again we come back to the simple thing of information.

01:14:27.000 The Illuminati don't want to control and indeed don't control the mainstream media because they think it's a bit of fun and wouldn't it be great to control the mainstream media?

01:14:36.000 They do it because it is fundamental to their operation being in any way successful.

01:14:42.000 You have to control What people receive as information because what you're trying to do and what you must do is manipulate and implant a false belief in reality.

01:14:54.000 So what must happen and there's only really one way of doing it and that's getting information out that challenges this mainstream monopoly on on what is real and what's happening in the world so that

01:15:08.000 people can have another version of events.

01:15:10.000 And as I know and you know from experience, like I said earlier, once people have this

01:15:14.000 other version of events, they go, Wow! The world suddenly makes sense! Yes!

01:15:20.000 So I say to people who are new to this, just take the point of observation that you're living in a one-party

01:15:27.000 state, that the techniques of manipulation are to create problems,

01:15:33.000 get you to say, do something about the problems and then offer solutions to

01:15:37.000 those problems that change society, that advance the Orwellian centralized global state.

01:15:42.000 and that...

01:15:44.000 Both parties, or any chance of government, are doing and will do the same things.

01:15:49.000 They'll just do it using different words and different methods.

01:15:53.000 Well, yeah, that's like John Edwards and Kerry saying, we want a domestic CIA.

01:15:59.000 I mean, they want everything Bush wants.

01:16:00.000 Now, let me bring this up.

01:16:02.000 I haven't brought this up on air, but I think it's important to bring it up.

01:16:06.000 I had a chance several times, more than several times, to talk to Keanu Reeves a few weeks ago.

01:16:12.000 And, of course, the star of The Matrix.

01:16:15.000 And he's totally aware of the New World Order, folks.

01:16:17.000 That's all I can say.

01:16:19.000 Just like Mel Gibson's aware of the New World Order.

01:16:21.000 You know, the Gibson family, who we've talked to.

01:16:24.000 But I had a chance to talk to Keanu Reeves while he was here in town working on a project quite a few times.

01:16:31.000 And, you know, he watched my film Road to Tyranny, and we talked about it.

01:16:37.000 He wouldn't get too much into the Matrix with me, and obviously he was just the actor in it, but clearly the Matrix, the first one's great, the second one's weird, and the third one, there's this deal with the Illuminati, the Illuminati says, okay, you're aware of us, it's going to destroy things, if you don't stop what you're doing, And for those of you that want to be free, we're going to have a truce and leave you alone, but for those of you that want to stay in the Matrix, we're going to have this bipolar, again, this false choice world, and there's a lot of really deep Illuminati messages on the dark side, I would say, in that film, and do you have any comments to that?

01:17:16.000 Well, it's one of the areas, Alex, that I've been going into in more recent times very deeply and continue to do so, and that's the nature of reality and how we create it, because that is the foundation of how, en masse, we are being manipulated to create the world, the reality that the Illuminati want.

01:17:38.000 It's very clear when you do research into quantum physics and all this other stuff

01:17:43.000 about the nature of reality and all that stuff that the people that put the Matrix movies together sure as

01:17:49.000 hell know an enormous amount about what's going on even down to the fact that one of the bloodlines, because

01:17:57.000 these are family bloodlines the Merovingian bloodline is one of the key Illuminati

01:18:02.000 bloodlines and what does the Matrix movie call the gatekeeper in the

01:18:05.000 movie?

01:18:06.000 The Merovingian, a French guy, because the Merovingian bloodline came through France

01:18:10.000 and is fundamentally one of the key...

01:18:12.000 Illuminati bloodlines and one of the things that I've really been looking at and really

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01:18:34.000 But what I didn't realize until I really got into this is that when information enters the eyes, it's in nothing like the form that we think we're looking at around us.

01:18:43.000 That only, that's constructed in our mind, and only... Hey, watch, stay there, we got a break.

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01:23:05.000 Alright, here's what I'm gonna do.

01:23:07.000 We're going to go to Paul and Tim and Charles and Greg and Randy and others.

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01:23:12.000 But I've got a bunch of other questions and comments and discussions with David Eich that I want to go through.

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01:23:26.000 A question, a comment, something you want to get into with David Eich or myself.

01:23:31.000 David, let's go ahead and go to these calls.

01:23:33.000 I'd like to come back to what I was saying before the break there, because this is fundamental to how we're manipulated, the way our reality is constructed, by external implantation of our beliefs, and basically we're like a subject on the stage of a stage hypnotist.

01:23:51.000 We're having false beliefs put into our minds, largely on a subconscious level, and then we see the world in line with those beliefs, in the same way as someone on a stage can be Manipulated by a hypnotist to see an elephant in the audience, so we can be manipulated to see, you know, terrorists where they're not.

01:24:12.000 Oh, I totally agree with you.

01:24:13.000 Paul in Delaware, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:24:15.000 Hi, gentlemen.

01:24:17.000 It's nice to speak with you, David Icke.

01:24:20.000 Hi, Paul.

01:24:22.000 I really appreciate a lot of your work, and Alex, first I'd like to say, the definition of insanity is a Christian that believes in evolution, that believes in psychics, that believes in UFOs, that believes in reptiles, that believes in wormholes. 0.94

01:24:40.000 That's insanity!

01:24:42.000 Now, also, we're talking about the Matrix.

01:24:47.000 Well, I look at the Matrix.

01:24:48.000 You guys are reading a lot into the Matrix.

01:24:50.000 I look at the Matrix as I do as the Skulls movies 1, 2, and 3, Tomb Raider, and the upcoming National Treasure with Nicolas Cage.

01:25:00.000 Now, you were saying about, oh, how they're going to want to work with us, the smart people.

01:25:04.000 Well, no, I was saying that's propaganda.

01:25:06.000 I was going to get more into that.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, it is definitely propaganda, because don't think for a second that the people who are aware that you can read anything into that movie other than more conditioning and manipulation.

01:25:21.000 And as Dr. Khalid Mohammed said, not that I'm a follower, but I have heard him speak before, we really want to work with you.

01:25:28.000 We want to work with you.

01:25:29.000 That's how he feels about the white people and I feel the same way if you want to read something into this movie.

01:25:36.000 Okay, sir, that's your phone call.

01:25:38.000 I'm going to let you go, because I said we've got to be fair to the callers.

01:25:41.000 Let me get David Icke's response to what you were saying.

01:25:44.000 What I was talking about, sir, is mass conditioning.

01:25:48.000 As I've said over and over again, is that that's what the New World Order says, is that we'll see the world's a dangerous place, and we've got to have a world government to keep everybody safe.

01:25:57.000 And those of you that are thinking people see this, and we've got to be more ruthless than anybody else, or we'll lose control.

01:26:03.000 Obviously, I said that that movie, that third movie, is definitely bad, and has a bad message, and I said that, and then you spun that into something different than what I said, and then you mentioned, you know, Khalid Mohamed, who I've got on video saying horrible stuff.

01:26:19.000 You know, I mean, we've got to come together against the New World Order. 0.65

01:26:22.000 David Icke?

01:26:23.000 Yeah, when I talk about The Matrix, I'm talking about the first one, which gave an excellent visual portrayal of The illusory world that we live in, and provably live in, when you look at even mainstream science, there's no way that this world is anything but an illusion that we construct in our minds.

01:26:40.000 Therefore, if you can control what we believe to be real, you will control what we construct to be real.

01:26:47.000 Well, the Bible says we're made in the image of God, and that we're creators.

01:26:52.000 And look, we go out and build things.

01:26:54.000 The things that people thought up 50 years ago, 100 years ago, we have now developed and created.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, but the whole point that needs to get across is that we are constructing the reality we think is real according to our own belief in what is real.

01:27:12.000 Therefore, like a stage hypnotist, if you can manipulate people to believe in a certain reality, you will get them to experience that reality because they'll construct it.

01:27:22.000 And of course, we have the greatest stage hypnotist on planet Earth in the corner of every room, every living room, the television.

01:27:29.000 Which is constantly implanting a false belief in reality.

01:27:33.000 Let's take some calls!

01:27:34.000 Let's take some calls! 0.78

01:27:35.000 ...ignorantly doing it, too, who are not aware, who are bringing up our children, saying, this is what is real, this is what is not real. 0.58

01:27:41.000 We're being hypnotized all the time without realizing it. 0.79

01:27:44.000 Jim in Ohio.

01:27:45.000 Go ahead, Jim.

01:27:47.000 Okay, Charles in North Carolina.

01:27:49.000 Charles, you're on the air.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, David.

01:27:51.000 In your book, Children in the Matrix, on page 207, you write, and I quote, there was no Jesus.

01:27:57.000 And on page 61 you write, Jesus never really existed.

01:28:00.000 Then you go on to argue that Jesus was a mythological creation of shape-shifting reptilian lizard people.

01:28:06.000 And you want to talk about false impressions?

01:28:08.000 While all of Alex Jones' work is based on verifiable facts like the Northwood document, your analysis mixes facts with blasphemous fiction revealing you! 0.98

01:28:16.000 With satanic motivations you have, you are a fraud, Mr. Ike. 0.96

01:28:21.000 Well, believe something else then, mate. 0.99

01:28:22.000 Don't matter to me.

01:28:24.000 Why should I care?

01:28:28.000 I'll tell you what, I hadn't read that, but I'd like to talk about that with David Icahn when we get back.

01:28:32.000 And I knew these calls would come up.

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01:28:35.000 He's on the broadcast.

01:28:36.000 We'll discuss it when we get back.

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01:34:57.000 Now Nathan, before you respond to what that guy was saying earlier, I think some of it are valid questions.

01:35:06.000 But before you do that, will you tell us about some of your books and videos on your website?

01:35:11.000 Well, I've written a number of books over the last 10-15 years or so.

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01:35:18.000 One before that was called, uh, Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster.

01:35:22.000 Then there's Children of the Matrix, uh, The Biggest Secret, and, uh, And the Truth Shall Set You Free.

01:35:28.000 Um, and my, uh, my website is davideike.com.

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01:35:38.000 And, um, you know, it's just a vehicle for, um, uh, information that people want to get through the mainstream media to, uh, to be, um, to filter and, People look at it and decide what they want to think about it and that's really the point I would make in response to Charles.

01:35:54.000 I'm actually glad that he rang up and in a way I'm glad he said what he said because it's a very very important point.

01:36:04.000 The foundation of any tyranny is to divide and rule the population.

01:36:09.000 To provide fault lines through which you can play off one side against another.

01:36:15.000 One belief off against another, one political system off against another, just as they played communism off against so-called capitalism, cartelism in truth, and without telling us that the same force was actually manipulating both sides.

01:36:33.000 If we are going to live in a world of true freedom, then there's one fundamental to that, and that is we have to be at peace With other people believing different things to us, so long as they don't seek to impose it on anybody and force them to believe the same.

01:36:50.000 That's when the tyrannical stuff comes in.

01:36:52.000 I gotta stop you, David.

01:36:52.000 Okay, I gotta stop you.

01:36:54.000 Now, the United Nations says they want a one-world religion where you can believe whatever you want as long as you quote, don't impose it, but then they're gonna impose that view.

01:37:03.000 Yes, but I'm talking about that without imposition.

01:37:09.000 I mean, how can you have freedom If one belief is imposing itself in any way on another, you can't!

01:37:17.000 Freedom!

01:37:18.000 A lot of people can't cope with freedom because they think freedom is the freedom to impose what they believe on other people.

01:37:23.000 Well, David, I'm not saying that, but at the same time, you know, they arrest people in Europe now, and even in the U.S., you criticize homosexuality because they say, oh, that hurts somebody's feelings and that could cause hate.

01:37:37.000 No, but that's different to imposing something on people.

01:37:41.000 If you have heterosexuality seeking to impose itself on homosexuality by saying, uh, we're gonna outlaw it, we can't do it, we're gonna throw you in prison if you get found doing it and all that stuff, that's what I'm talking about.

01:37:54.000 We have the opposite.

01:37:55.000 We have the homosexuality being sold and imposed on the general public. 1.00

01:37:59.000 Well, if that's happening, that also breaks the rules of my version and definition of freedom.

01:38:06.000 Okay, David, since this all came up, because I've read your book about 9-11, I think it's excellent.

01:38:13.000 I don't get into things I can't prove, which you got into in The Biggest Secret, which I didn't read.

01:38:18.000 I didn't read The Children of the Matrix, which the caller was calling in about.

01:38:22.000 But I have to tell you that I stick to the things I can prove, and I've been highly effective at that.

01:38:28.000 You're very articulate, very intelligent.

01:38:31.000 You work for the BBC.

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01:38:34.000 We should talk about your past.

01:38:35.000 You're a very interesting, articulate individual.

01:38:39.000 But I've told you on air before that I don't think it does...

01:38:45.000 Good, in the big picture, to go into things that you can't prove, add it on to all this real stuff, because then it discredits all the stuff we can document.

01:38:54.000 So, what can't I prove?

01:38:55.000 That Jesus didn't exist?

01:38:57.000 Well, clearly, the Roman historians, I mean, all of it.

01:39:00.000 I mean, clearly Jesus Christ existed.

01:39:04.000 Well, that's like saying prove George Washington did, or, you know, prove Mary, Queen of France.

01:39:09.000 I think if you go into this more deeply, you'll find that there's enormous amounts of evidence That the story of Jesus, sometimes in detail, is a story that can be found thousands of years later.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, I know, you'll claim the Egyptians and the Babylonians have similar myths.

01:39:29.000 Yeah, all over the world they have similar myths.

01:39:31.000 That doesn't do it.

01:39:34.000 Well, don't accept the evidence then.

01:39:36.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:39:38.000 You believe in Jesus, fine, go ahead, don't matter to me.

01:39:43.000 Why should me not believing in Jesus matter to anybody?

01:39:46.000 Because, what did we talk about earlier?

01:39:49.000 We talked about the fact that in the end, all of us, no matter what our beliefs, religiously, politically, in any way, shape or form, in the end, we're all cackle to this agenda of destroying the freedom, not just of non-Jesus believers or Jesus believers, but all of us.

01:40:08.000 Surely, we should put aside what we don't believe or agree on, and unite behind what we do, which is the freedom of all of us to have and express our beliefs, whatever they are, so long as they're not imposed on others. 0.95

01:40:23.000 And anyone that seeks to impose on me that I should believe in this, or believe in that, or otherwise I'm Satan, and all this very idiotic, very nonsense, is just playing the game Okay, let me add something here, David. 0.82

01:40:41.000 Okay, I've studied the New World Order for a decade, a little over a decade now, I've been active for a decade. 0.97

01:40:47.000 And every time I follow up to the highest levels of the New World Order, they believe in Lucifer, they believe in the devil, they seek to infiltrate Christianity, they seek to discredit it.

01:41:00.000 In your book, you write about my infiltration of Bohemian Grove.

01:41:03.000 You talk about that.

01:41:04.000 You've talked about that on your website.

01:41:05.000 You've talked about that in interviews.

01:41:06.000 Now, is it not true that every time you research the New World Order, it leads back to Satanism?

01:41:11.000 Well, then what does that mean?

01:41:15.000 Because the Bible tells me there's going to be a world leader who is the devil and who hates Christians.

01:41:20.000 Now look, that is enforcing my belief.

01:41:26.000 Well, if that reinforces your belief in Christianity, Alex, then believe in Christianity... Well, my own experiences have, too.

01:41:33.000 I mean, I know God works in my life, but... Fine!

01:41:36.000 But hold on, I mean, that's a real question.

01:41:37.000 You know the globalists are devil worshippers.

01:41:39.000 Now, why do they believe in the devil if you're saying Jesus doesn't exist?

01:41:45.000 Well, explain to me why Jesus existing or not existing relates to them worshipping a negative dark force, which they do.

01:41:55.000 You're telling me that, by necessity, Jesus has to be a polarity of what they worship?

01:42:02.000 Why can't there be just another state of consciousness?

01:42:08.000 A state of love as opposed to a state of hate?

01:42:11.000 A state of peace as opposed to a state of conflict?

01:42:15.000 Why does that love, which they are trying to destroy, Why, and why out of human consciousness, why does that love have to be called Jesus?

01:42:27.000 Why can't it just be called love or any other name?

01:42:30.000 Okay, David, we're about to go back to calls here in a second, and people will probably take us in a hundred different directions, but I want to get back to something I raised with the Matrix earlier.

01:42:41.000 Right.

01:42:42.000 I clearly said that overall the first film gives us a good analogy or parallel to what's going on, at least psychologically and mentally, at a lot of different levels.

01:42:51.000 The second one, then it gets into the Illuminati, the New World Order, and the third one it has this terrible message.

01:42:57.000 You know, we sit down with the great architect, that Masonic term for Lucifer, and the architect, you know, the guy with the white beard, you know, the shaman archetype, sits there and tells us, look, you're going to destroy everything if you do this.

01:43:09.000 Some people want the Matrix.

01:43:11.000 You can have, you know, your free will in this, trying to counterfeit what the God of the Bible says if you've got free will.

01:43:19.000 So, and what I was going to elaborate on is that's what the Illuminati says to professors and intelligent people is, we've got to be more ruthless than anybody else because if we aren't, other people will get those technologies and then they'll destroy the planet or they'll unseat our elite, join us and be part of the power structure.

01:43:37.000 That's why I was saying that message is so dangerous.

01:43:40.000 Do you have any comments on that?

01:43:44.000 Well, the way that we're being mind manipulated through fear is and does take endless manifestations and what you're describing is one of them.

01:43:56.000 I've met and read accounts of friends of people in high places in the university structure, both in this country and America for instance, who unknowingly Teaching and standing by doctrines and beliefs that they know to be false, because if they don't, then they're going to lose their job, and they're going to lose their funding, and they're going to lose their sense of who they are in the community.

01:44:26.000 What I would say to those people is what I said earlier.

01:44:29.000 At the end of your life, is that going to make you feel good about yourself?

01:44:34.000 Or will you feel better about yourself if you say, I'm going to do what I believe to be right, no matter what the consequences.

01:44:41.000 I'm not going to think about consequences.

01:44:43.000 I'm going to do what I believe to be right.

01:44:45.000 And, you know, we would change this world, Alex, overnight, if people, particularly those in key places who are not advancing this agenda through awareness or design, but by just taking part in it and playing a part in it because it suits them and suits what they want.

01:45:05.000 uh... we would change overnight if people would just stop doing what they

01:45:09.000 believe to be right for them in the moment and started and people started to do what they believe to

01:45:16.000 be right and those two things are often in total consequence not

01:45:21.000 least because of the fear

01:45:22.000 and the carrot and stick society structure that's been set up whereby if

01:45:27.000 you go with what these guys want you get the reward in money in position in fame and all 0.85

01:45:33.000 this rubbish

01:45:34.000 uh... and if you don't go with them then you get the stick and they try to stop your funding they try to uh... take 0.96

01:45:41.000 your voice away and they attack you in various things

01:45:44.000 i r s audits and stuff like that now at that fork in the road

01:45:49.000 people have got to make a choice am i going to be a a servile sheep

01:45:54.000 Who's just going to do what the Master tells him?

01:45:57.000 Or am I going to stand up for what I believe in?

01:45:59.000 Express the full magnitude of who I am?

01:46:02.000 Well, I've just got to tell you, David.

01:46:04.000 We've got to go to calls.

01:46:06.000 Then we've got to go to calls.

01:46:07.000 I just want you to know that I, in my own experience, see the New World Order attack real Christians. 0.99

01:46:13.000 That's their real focus.

01:46:14.000 And they tell you to believe whatever else you want.

01:46:16.000 Just don't be a real Christian, and I see real Christians at the forefront of fighting the New World Order effectively, and I see FEMA gearing up to go after real Christians. 1.00

01:46:27.000 Now, a lot of people in the whole New Age movement see these Neo-Con Christians, who are totally deceived, serving the New World Order beast system, and then a lot of people in your camp see that and think, oh, it must all be a fraud.

01:46:39.000 And I'm telling you... Alex, the New Age is just another manufactured religion.

01:46:44.000 You know, it's not Christianity that I don't follow.

01:46:47.000 I don't follow any religion.

01:46:49.000 None of them!

01:46:50.000 They're just structures of imposing a belief system, in my view, and I have a right to that.

01:46:55.000 But people who think something differently, if they believe in freedom and they're a Christian, or they believe in freedom and they go round in New Age bloody clothes, I'm with them! 0.89

01:47:04.000 Because we need to realize that we agree on what affects us all and not be divided and ruled by arguing among ourselves about whether that belief is right or that belief is wrong.

01:47:15.000 Okay, okay.

01:47:16.000 Alright, let's go to calls here.

01:47:18.000 Let's go ahead now, up next, and go to Greg in Texas.

01:47:20.000 Greg, go ahead.

01:47:22.000 Yes, thank you so much.

01:47:23.000 Just a quick comment and a quicker question.

01:47:26.000 Mr. Icke, it's an honor to talk to you again.

01:47:30.000 Last year I spoke with you on the Lou Gentil Show.

01:47:33.000 Right before Texas City, I was able to go and see you then.

01:47:37.000 And it was an amazing experience.

01:47:41.000 And it's my belief that the moment that we're in, I know that time isn't real, but time is getting away from us.

01:47:50.000 And I don't buy into these illusions of right and left.

01:47:56.000 What can someone do to make a commitment to do their part in all this?

01:48:03.000 Aside from intention, what do you recommend?

01:48:08.000 Because I think now is the time, and I didn't ask you this last time on Lou Gentile, but I have to ask you now, what can someone do who is committed to do their part in all this?

01:48:17.000 Okay, thanks for the call, David.

01:48:19.000 Well, I would say, Greg, that you said the word there, in my experience, intent.

01:48:26.000 What I've found in my life, and I know a lot of other people have too, is when you really commit yourself to something.

01:48:33.000 With the intent of doing it.

01:48:34.000 My intent is I want to serve the cause of freedom in every way I possibly can, in the most effective way I possibly can.

01:48:43.000 If you do that, what starts to happen is people, and this is what happened to me, people and events and experiences start coming into your life, apparently coincidentally, that allow you to walk that road of making that contribution to advance and complete your intent. All I did in the early 90s

01:49:08.000 when my mind was blown open was I did two things. I said this is my intent, something

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01:49:26.000 Oh no, you can't do that, you've got a mortgage, you've got a cat, says the intellect, which is always trying to keep us in the prison.

01:49:32.000 If you follow your intuition, your feeling, then you suddenly find that life starts to put the riches in front of you.

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01:53:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:08.000 We're talking to David Aikoush.

01:53:10.000 In a way, kind of an enigma.

01:53:15.000 Because so much of what he talks about and goes over is fluent, well-spoken, intelligent, focused, charismatic, documented, and then he goes into, you know, we secretly have these dimensional creatures controlling us from a higher level, and Jesus Christ wasn't Jesus, or didn't exist, and I disagree with that.

01:53:39.000 But a lot of people follow David Icke, and we have him here on the show, and I appreciate him coming on.

01:53:43.000 We have him on, I guess, about once a year.

01:53:45.000 And we appreciate him spending this time with us.

01:53:47.000 I know we need to get the calls a little bit quicker here.

01:53:49.000 We're going to try to.

01:53:51.000 He'll be with us into the next hour.

01:53:53.000 But David, I never saw this, so I don't know if it's true, but I have read in mainstream news reports that when you first started waking up, what was it, 1994?

01:54:01.000 Was it 93?

01:54:02.000 No, no, early 90s.

01:54:02.000 1991.

01:54:02.000 four was a ninety three no no no i did not have a ninety one okay what is it that

01:54:07.000 is it true that you went on

01:54:10.000 the bbc and announced that you were jesus uh... no i i i i think that's not

01:54:17.000 quite what that uh... uh...

01:54:19.000 What I said in my own words in those days was what quantum physicists are saying, which is everything is the same energy, everything is the same consciousness, it's just expressing itself in different ways, and therefore if you want to use symbolic language, we're all the sons and daughters of God, and this got portrayed in the way That most things in the mainstream media get betrayed in a way that it wasn't said, it wasn't meant to.

01:54:50.000 But you have to live with that.

01:54:51.000 If you're saying things in the public eye that challenge mainstream beliefs, then you're going to get ridiculed.

01:54:57.000 Well, I never saw it.

01:54:59.000 I've had the media lie about me, so that's why I brought that up.

01:55:04.000 I'm just saying basically the same thing in a different language these days.

01:55:08.000 We're all one consciousness, and we're all expressing ourselves in different ways.

01:55:13.000 We're all one, but we're all the diversity of the one, if you like, and we should start celebrating diversity instead of scorning it and seeking to impose one belief upon a diverse population, and that's what the New World Order wants.

01:55:32.000 Actually, in the name of diversity, they go after people being individuals.

01:55:38.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

01:55:40.000 Let's talk to Randy in Pennsylvania, and then we'll go to Mike and Rich and Tim and others, and Anthony.

01:55:46.000 Randy, go ahead.

01:55:47.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:55:48.000 Hi, David.

01:55:49.000 Hello, Randy.

01:55:50.000 It's truly an honor to speak with you.

01:55:51.000 Thank you.

01:55:52.000 I don't want to put any words in your mouth, but I believe you believe things the way I think, and that we are God.

01:55:57.000 We're the devil.

01:55:58.000 In fact, we're all connected, and this reality is, in essence, a living hologram.

01:56:02.000 Yeah.

01:56:02.000 Could you speak to the audience about quantum physics a little more and the way that our eyes work and the solution to this problem that the hell that we're living in?

01:56:10.000 Because I believe this is hell or heaven.

01:56:12.000 A hundred months of syndrome.

01:56:15.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

01:56:16.000 You can say it in New Age, but it sure sounds like that to me.

01:56:20.000 Go ahead.

01:56:20.000 Right.

01:56:21.000 Well, again, you know, why does anyone have to put a label on everything?

01:56:27.000 Well, dummy, no, there are real things.

01:56:30.000 Hey, David, David, David, David.

01:56:33.000 There are real things in the world.

01:56:36.000 You know, I have to put a name to it all the time.

01:56:38.000 I'm not New Age, I just believe certain things, which are unique to me in many ways.

01:56:43.000 I hope they are.

01:56:43.000 Well, let me say this.

01:56:46.000 If I walk up to somebody, or they walk up to me and hit me in the head with a ball-peen hammer and kill me, that's a real event.

01:56:52.000 And so we have to put labels on things.

01:56:56.000 Why?

01:56:57.000 Because that's how we operate.

01:56:58.000 No, that's how you operate, Alex.

01:57:00.000 You have every right to do so.

01:57:02.000 Some people operate in different ways.

01:57:03.000 But you're talking now, hey David, David, David, you're talking like O'Brien now, in 1984, when he tells Winston he can float off the ground like a soap bubble.

01:57:13.000 Well, let me put it this way, Alex.

01:57:17.000 You're now looking at, you're in a studio, you're looking at a wall.

01:57:21.000 That wall looks solid to you.

01:57:22.000 It can't be.

01:57:23.000 It's made of atoms, and atoms are as least solid that you could ever come across.

01:57:27.000 I mean, as one physicist said, if you take the atom to be the size of a cathedral, then the particles within it are about the size of... David, we've got a break.

01:57:35.000 We've got a break.

01:57:36.000 But if I, look, but at my level of reality, of my manifested reality, it is solid.

01:57:43.000 Hello, folk!

01:57:44.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Alright folks, already into hour number three.

01:58:10.000 We've got David Icke on with us.

01:58:12.000 DavidIcke.com is the website.

01:58:15.000 And of course my website is at PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:58:20.000 And all these callers we're going to get to you.

01:58:24.000 Who knows if David Icke wants to talk about electronic voting machine fraud.

01:58:27.000 Well, Bev Harris would keep him on for that.

01:58:28.000 It's always interesting to have him on and he's a very intelligent person.

01:58:32.000 I think what's important is he gets us all to think.

01:58:36.000 And shifting out of just not thinking, and watching television, and drinking a six-pack of beer, and going to church, and hearing how good George Bush is, or going to the Democratic meeting and hearing how good John Kerry is.

01:58:48.000 I mean, I agree with him about Skull and Bones, and about 9-11, and about Bohemian Grove, and a lot of what David says I check out and it turns out to be true, and he obviously uses some of my research.

01:58:58.000 But we do get focused in on the, I'd say, 5% of what David said that a lot of our listeners vehemently disagree with, and I do as well.

01:59:08.000 Of course, the nature of matter is that there's giant spaces in it.

01:59:14.000 And David says, well, there's that wall in front of you in the studio, and it's not really there.

01:59:19.000 But at my level of physical manifestation, molecular level, on the dimensional spectrum, if you want to get into quantum mechanics, that my structure, my atom structure, is similar to that of the wall, and that is a wall that's there for me.

01:59:36.000 So, you know, just throwing out some comments about quantum mechanics, you know, sounds very authoritative, but I mean, what does it mean?

01:59:46.000 I could, you know, just say, well, I'll tell you what my arguments sound, because ham sandwich!

01:59:52.000 We're about to go to your calls, I'm not trying to be mean, David, I'm trying to, some of the things you're saying, again, I only have my limited spectrum of consciousness, and I am able to wake people up off of facts and real things in this plane of existence, and then you go off into this other plane of existence where you can't demonstrate it for me, and demonstrating things is the basis of science.

02:00:15.000 Go ahead.

02:00:16.000 Well, I don't care if you are being mean, Alex.

02:00:19.000 It doesn't matter to me.

02:00:19.000 I'd be out of your life, you know?

02:00:21.000 I'm just giving you a...

02:00:22.000 Well, I think, and take it or leave it.

02:00:25.000 It doesn't matter to me.

02:00:26.000 Think something else.

02:00:27.000 But, you know, you say you can't prove it.

02:00:31.000 Well, the wall is made of atoms, and atoms are freaking empty.

02:00:36.000 Now, what you're doing is constructing, and I'm doing the same with this wall in front of me now, is we're constructing a reality in our minds, a collective reality.

02:00:47.000 As quantum physics has also said, atoms or particles within the atoms, they take two forms.

02:00:54.000 They take a waveform, which is non-physical, and they take a particle form, which appears to our minds to be physical.

02:01:02.000 And the only time that the waveform becomes a particle is when we're looking at it, when we're observing it.

02:01:09.000 So what I'm saying is, you said something very correct earlier about what I'm trying to do.

02:01:13.000 I'm not trying to get people to believe anything.

02:01:15.000 I don't care what people believe, as long as it's what they believe and not what someone else has imposed externally upon them to believe.

02:01:21.000 I'm trying to get people to see that there are other possibilities.

02:01:25.000 Once people realise that, the possibility that's being sold to them from cradle to grave through the education system, he said laughing, through the media and We've got a break again.

02:01:40.000 Long segment coming up.

02:01:41.000 the uh... i mean i don't want it's not hard to believe in one basic possibility

02:01:47.000 but then we will live within the reality

02:01:51.000 the belief that that's all to us what you start to realize hey

02:01:54.000 there's a lot of possibilities not just this one uh... that that that the uh... the power of the imposed

02:02:00.000 possibility starts to break up and we got a break and we got a break again long-term

02:02:04.000 coming up a lot of time to get the calls folks

02:02:07.000 but i will say this is like i don't agree with everything you're saying

02:02:09.000 i don't agree with everything that michael moore is saying but

02:02:14.000 his film is really helping us i know he's helping me

02:02:18.000 because he's opening people's eyes at least to the fact that they're being

02:02:21.000 lied to now as they dig deeper they'll see a bigger part of the picture

02:02:25.000 you.

02:02:26.000 So, we'll be back with David Icke and we'll go to Mike and Rick and Tim and Anthony and Sean and others.

02:02:31.000 Everybody, stay there!

02:02:32.000 Go to your calls quickly on the other side, then I'll get into some news articles and get David Icke's take on that.

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02:05:54.000 I'll tell you what's concrete, my friends.

02:05:56.000 The government is running a scam with your votes, with the elections, and Bev Harris will be joining us here in about 25 minutes.

02:06:02.000 We're going to take a bunch of calls for David Icke.

02:06:06.000 But David, just going back into what we started the interview with, something we agree on.

02:06:10.000 Yeah, seems a long time ago.

02:06:12.000 We've been a few places since, Alex, haven't we?

02:06:14.000 We have, but U.S.

02:06:16.000 mulling how to delay or cancel November vote in case of attack.

02:06:21.000 We've got Ridge in front of Camera feeds, oh big brother, it'll keep you safe, saying, you know, we may have to suspend the election, martial law might be needed.

02:06:30.000 This is openly being discussed.

02:06:32.000 I mean, how much more in your face, folks, does it need to get?

02:06:38.000 Then you look at the evidence of who's behind Al Qaeda and who's behind 9-11.

02:06:42.000 That is totally provable, not debatable.

02:06:49.000 Where do you see this going, David?

02:06:51.000 Well, obviously, 9-11, like Oklahoma, as I think you mentioned earlier, is not it.

02:06:59.000 It's the stage on the road to it.

02:07:01.000 And there are more stages on that road to come, because they have a time scale which is not a million years from now, and they have to push this on if they're going to get it into place.

02:07:12.000 One of the key things they need to get into place, and is in so many ways the jewel in their crown, is the microchip.

02:07:19.000 And I understand that it's been a few weeks in America, they now have chipmobiles going around chipping people.

02:07:26.000 Yeah, that's the A.P.

02:07:27.000 They have chipmobiles, and they're going to sell it as a fad to the young people, rebel against your parents, get it?

02:07:36.000 David, they are now moving to put it in special forces.

02:07:40.000 They're now all over the children's publications and TV shows promoting it.

02:07:45.000 Why do they want that chip so bad?

02:07:47.000 Well, interestingly, back in 1997, I was asked through a third party to meet a guy who was a scientist with the CIA, who joined the CIA genuinely thinking he was serving his country in his early twenties.

02:08:02.000 He was a genius in the area of magnetics and various other Cutting edge technology and he asked to meet me to try to get out what was going on because he couldn't for reasons that became very rapidly clear.

02:08:17.000 He was telling me that when he rebelled against what he realized he was being asked to do, which was to use his genius to advance his agenda, which he very soon realized existed.

02:08:30.000 uh... he uh...

02:08:32.000 will be left alone one day refusing to work anymore and he has missing time uh... he then remembers

02:08:39.000 waking up on a medical type bench in a room and when he got his faculties back he felt something on his

02:08:46.000 chest and as he was telling me this story he was opening his

02:08:50.000 shirt and on his chest was this

02:08:52.000 i can only describe it as a see-through plastic shampoo sachet with an orangey

02:08:57.000 golden liquid in it And apparently he was saying in the CIA they call these patches.

02:09:03.000 And what they do is manipulate people like him who are rebelling.

02:09:08.000 Scientists whose knowledge and ability they need to have their bodies to need the drug in the patch to survive.

02:09:16.000 And if the body doesn't get this drug then they start to die and it's a long and painful death.

02:09:21.000 Well that's actually an old program used hundreds of years ago where they put a poison into you where only they know the secret antidote.

02:09:28.000 You've got to serve them or you die.

02:09:29.000 That's actually confirmed. 0.94

02:09:31.000 Right, exactly.

02:09:32.000 And it's amazing Alex when you do look at ancient history just how many of the concepts that I guess, you know, these Illuminati

02:09:39.000 bloodlines have passed through history.

02:09:41.000 They've taken the same concepts with them, only the nature of the way they express themselves is changing.

02:09:46.000 If something works, why change what their technique?

02:09:50.000 And he's absolutely right. Yes, they are using the same technique today.

02:09:56.000 And anyway, what he said was these patches have to be replaced every 72 hours.

02:10:00.000 And he said there are endless numbers of scientists in the secret projects who are patched.

02:10:06.000 And another thing that they do is when they think that they've got everything from the scientists that they could possibly

02:10:12.000 get, then they don't replace the patch because they want the guy

02:10:16.000 to disappear without the ability to tell the story.

02:10:19.000 Well, let me stop you right there, David, because we have...

02:10:23.000 He told me the microchip agenda in 1997, which is very interesting.

02:10:27.000 Okay.

02:10:28.000 Go ahead.

02:10:29.000 Yeah, he said that even in 1997, and we've seen some evidence of that since, he said outside the public arena, microchips are so small they can be inserted in a hypodermic needle during vaccination programs.

02:10:45.000 And he said even people who become aware of the microchip don't realize the full magnitude of it.

02:10:50.000 It's not just an electronic tag, although that's definitely one level of it.

02:10:54.000 He said, to me again, 1997, it's not the messages going from the chip to the computer that are the prime reason for it, though it's one.

02:11:04.000 It's the messages coming the other way.

02:11:06.000 He said that they can isolate the microchip, take someone out physically through it, they can manipulate individuals, or do en masse manipulations of... Let me stop you.

02:11:18.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:11:19.000 In my film, Road to Tyranny, I have a CBS News clip from 2000 where they say, They're going to do this and now they have the system if you're depressed, this is the Associated Press, they put a wire into the brain to make you feel better, David.

02:11:34.000 Once we have the wire, we won't be so crazy anymore.

02:11:37.000 So they're openly now, so all this stuff that we talked about years ago is now right out

02:11:42.000 in the open.

02:11:43.000 We're about to go to calls because people have been really patient.

02:11:46.000 But that's something, see, real and tangible where they're all over the news saying every

02:11:50.000 child needs one, oh this is so great.

02:11:53.000 And then DARPA comes out a few months ago in the Baltimore newspaper and in the Boston

02:12:00.000 paper and says, oh we're going to put towers up to control your minds and we're going to

02:12:05.000 have Coke machines that project audio into the brain.

02:12:09.000 This is incredible and they're really doing it.

02:12:12.000 The other thing the scientists said, by the way, was that they would use...

02:12:17.000 The excuse of replacing credit cards and credit card fraud with microchips holding your financial details.

02:12:25.000 And just a few months ago, I'm sure you know, this company, which used to be what's like a hawk, Applied Digital Solutions, came out and said that they wanted to replace credit cards with their microchips.

02:12:37.000 So like we've said throughout this chat, Alex, what has been predicted is now in our face.

02:12:42.000 It's now happening.

02:12:43.000 It's not in the future.

02:12:44.000 It's here.

02:12:45.000 Well, absolutely.

02:12:48.000 It's here, folks.

02:12:49.000 Mike in Arizona.

02:12:50.000 Mike, you're on the air.

02:12:51.000 Go ahead.

02:12:51.000 Thanks for holding.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, thanks, Alec.

02:12:55.000 Does Mr. Ike have any speaking engagement in Arizona or anywhere out in the West?

02:13:02.000 I spoke in Los Angeles two weeks ago, but nothing in that area since.

02:13:10.000 I'm open to any offers.

02:13:13.000 My other question is, I'm new to your literature.

02:13:17.000 You speak of reptiles.

02:13:20.000 Is that some kind of metaphor or code?

02:13:24.000 If so, you don't need to elaborate.

02:13:27.000 I think I understand.

02:13:28.000 But if it's not, if you're talking about these in a literal sense, I'd like you to elaborate.

02:13:34.000 Well, two things to that.

02:13:35.000 First of all, in a literal sense, yes.

02:13:39.000 Not as a metaphor.

02:13:42.000 And when you're talking about something that is so way out, so fantastic, even to people who are opening their minds to to things that other people are still close to, then if I

02:13:55.000 talked about it in the time we have left, then it would not do it justice. I mean, I've got a book,

02:14:03.000 Children of the Matrix, which is five, six hundred pages talking about this. That's what it

02:14:09.000 takes to present this in a logical way. 0.95

02:14:13.000 If you're talking in short clips, I mean, of course it's going to sound ridiculous. Of course 0.87

02:14:17.000 it is. Just like, you know, once it was ridiculous to say the earth was round, and unless it could

02:14:23.000 be explained at length.

02:14:24.000 Then, um, you know, have you heard of the law of gravity and all this stuff?

02:14:28.000 It sounded ludicrous to people at that time who didn't know about the laws of gravity, so... Well, I mean, I'll put it in a nutshell and tell me if you think I'm wrong, and again, I don't go there, I don't go into flying saucers, I don't go into stuff I can't prove.

02:14:38.000 I stick to, it's hard enough that they're on the news saying every child needs a microchip, but basically, there's these interdimensional rulers of our planet that run the Illuminati as their servants, and that's basically what you're saying, Mr. Reich?

02:14:52.000 Yeah, I'm saying that this age-old term or concept, which is very much still there today... The serpent in the garden!

02:15:06.000 ...of possession, people being possessed by other dimensional entities which take over their mental and emotional processes, is what is ultimately behind the Illuminati, and that these interbreeding Illuminati bloodlines, going back to the

02:15:23.000 ancient world, are obsessed with holding their particular genetics

02:15:27.000 because it makes this possession easier and a lot of this stuff takes place in the very rituals that you've exposed

02:15:33.000 yourself.

02:15:34.000 But then you get into the Bible series.

02:15:36.000 It says that these people served the devil, the children of the devil.

02:15:40.000 Real quick though, I don't even get into that because I can't prove it.

02:15:44.000 I believe the Bible, I just don't get into it because it's so amazing.

02:15:48.000 Mike, anything else?

02:15:50.000 Well, it just strikes me as rather curious that he doesn't believe in Jesus, who's, I think, pretty well documented, but he does believe in reptiles, who most of us haven't had any experience with.

02:16:01.000 All right.

02:16:01.000 Well, believe something else then, mate.

02:16:03.000 That's real simple.

02:16:04.000 Look at the evidence on both sides of some argument, and really look at the evidence rather than just say, yes, everyone knows that.

02:16:13.000 It's a mistake that a lot of people make.

02:16:15.000 Because everyone knows, actually very little, I've got something like 90 odd percent of what people believe is actually in the end not true.

02:16:22.000 Well, David, David, you know what people say.

02:16:24.000 David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, you know what people say about you, though.

02:16:34.000 They say that you bring out all this stuff that's documented, that I can prove, and then you add stuff like the reptiles, the reptoid rulers, onto it, then psychologically discrediting all the real stuff.

02:16:46.000 Well, they'll just have to believe that.

02:16:48.000 I'm interested in what is happening in the world.

02:16:51.000 I am not limited by a belief system and I'm not limited by caring what other people think about me and worrying about whether people will ridicule what I say.

02:17:04.000 I'm just interested in what's going on.

02:17:06.000 Well, I'm interested, David.

02:17:07.000 Make of it what you will.

02:17:09.000 What you make of it is up to you.

02:17:10.000 Yeah, I'm interested, sir.

02:17:12.000 What people think of me is none of my business.

02:17:14.000 I'm interested in scientifically proving the things I say, which I can do, and then convincing rational people.

02:17:21.000 And I'm saying with some of the stuff you add to this ice cream sundae you've built that I'm saying is real and based on reality, you put the cherry on top.

02:17:31.000 And I don't agree with the cherry you put on top.

02:17:33.000 Tell you what, stay there.

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02:21:59.000 segment with a little bit of the next segment to finish up with the

02:22:03.000 callers we've got on hold

02:22:06.000 But quickly, callers, I have your question, your comment, and David, try to keep the answers short if you can to get to everybody.

02:22:12.000 Brooke in Rhode Island, you're on the air.

02:22:14.000 Go ahead.

02:22:15.000 Yes, Alex.

02:22:15.000 Thanks a lot.

02:22:16.000 It's great to speak to David.

02:22:18.000 In defense of David, I have a comment to make on the flack he's been taking about reptilians I don't know if you're aware of the fact that the American Medical Association and the New England Journal of Medicine, or School of Medicine, throughout the 90s has said that one part of the human brain is reptilian.

02:22:39.000 Well, no, I had... Let me finish.

02:22:43.000 Sir, look, that's just science that the, you know, really three brains and the one down that's attached to your spinal cord is a crocodile brain.

02:22:52.000 It's almost identical and has the same makeup.

02:22:55.000 Well, who's to say that the bloodlines, the aristocratic bloodlines, don't have more reptilian DNA in them?

02:23:02.000 And also, my last thing is, are you aware of the fact that David Rockefeller and Gianni Agnelli and Umberto Agnelli have died in the past year?

02:23:11.000 Rockefeller last night.

02:23:13.000 You're kidding!

02:23:14.000 David Rockefeller died last night?

02:23:16.000 That's right.

02:23:17.000 David, have you heard that?

02:23:18.000 No, I haven't.

02:23:19.000 It's news to me.

02:23:21.000 That is ultra-massive.

02:23:23.000 Yeah, massive.

02:23:24.000 I was trying to get through to you for an hour to let you know that, because Agnelli, both of them, the brother died at 62, that's Umberto, and then Gianni Agnelli died at 67 last year, and these are all major Illuminati guys.

02:23:38.000 Rockefeller died last night at 94.

02:23:42.000 Well, I don't even know.

02:23:43.000 I mean, a lot of the evidence I've seen is that they staged their deaths.

02:23:47.000 Because they obviously can't come walking out looking much younger because of all the advanced technologies that they have.

02:23:55.000 No, no, I know those technologies.

02:23:56.000 That's real.

02:23:57.000 We can demonstrate that, David.

02:23:59.000 Maybe there's a little reptilian in there.

02:24:01.000 Okay, well maybe there's an Easter Bunny, too.

02:24:03.000 I have no problem with that technology at all.

02:24:05.000 Because once you have an advanced knowledge of how things work, what seems impossible to the population and ludicrous and ridiculous suddenly becomes perfectly possible.

02:24:18.000 Okay, thanks for the call, Brickle.

02:24:20.000 I know they've got life extension technologies.

02:24:22.000 I know the technology we see is at least 30 years old.

02:24:25.000 I mean, that's admitted.

02:24:26.000 I'll tell you what's interesting is very quickly on that question, though, Alex.

02:24:30.000 When you look, and this is mainstream science, when you look at the character traits that we supposedly get from the reptilian brain, which is the oldest part of the brain, they are the Illuminati to a T.

02:24:43.000 uh... it's uh... cold-blooded behavior that behaving in ways that

02:24:47.000 have no empathy with the consequences of people of your actions uh... i believe

02:24:51.000 in top-down power over structures a belief in might is right

02:24:56.000 i believe in territorialism this is mine and no one else can have it

02:25:01.000 all these things and more whatever you believe or don't believe about the reptilian

02:25:06.000 aspect of this the reptilian brain contains

02:25:09.000 the character traits of the illuminati Well, it is just science that we've got that part of our brain.

02:25:15.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Rick in Colorado.

02:25:19.000 Rick, you're on the air with David Icke.

02:25:20.000 Go ahead.

02:25:21.000 Hi, guys.

02:25:22.000 I'd like to commend both of y'all for your fight against this infrastructure that exists today, pretty much.

02:25:29.000 I'm a first-time caller, so I'm a little bit nervous.

02:25:31.000 Well, welcome, sir.

02:25:32.000 Go ahead.

02:25:33.000 But I do want to say that I agree with David on the fact that religion has divided the people in this country. 1.00

02:25:44.000 And I would like for him to expound a little bit more on the fact that various Jesus figures have appeared throughout history, pretty much throughout the many religions.

02:25:55.000 That's what the New Age says, but I've looked at it.

02:25:58.000 There's a big difference between Jesus Christ and Buddha.

02:26:01.000 Thanks for the call, David.

02:26:02.000 There's a big difference between Jesus Christ and Buddha, but when you look at entities that worshipped pre-Christianity, like Mithra, like Tamils, etc., and others, There's tremendous similarities.

02:26:18.000 In fact, ludicrously similar concepts.

02:26:22.000 And the reason, for instance, that we have Jesus being given the birthday of December the 25th, and many of these other pre-Christian entities also, is because they relate to the sun, the worship of the sun.

02:26:35.000 Well now, all of that is true, but they say the occult came in and changed those dates.

02:26:39.000 Let's take a call.

02:26:41.000 Let's talk to Tim in Ohio.

02:26:42.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:26:44.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:26:45.000 Hello.

02:26:45.000 Hello, David.

02:26:46.000 It's really a pleasure to speak with you.

02:26:48.000 I've been following your work since like 1999.

02:26:50.000 I've read your last four books.

02:26:52.000 The work that you and Alex do has totally consumed and changed my life.

02:26:56.000 I've started my own organization called Truth, teaching and researching United States treasonous hierarchy, and at the risk of sounding like Cousin Eddie in The Vegas Vacation, I'd take a bullet for either one of you guys.

02:27:08.000 I'll tell you what, Tim, that's exactly what we need, is for people to pick the baton up and run with it.

02:27:16.000 Because there isn't one baton here, there's as many as we want to create.

02:27:21.000 Ask the question, what can Licker Me do? 0.98

02:27:24.000 Well, we can do whatever we choose to do.

02:27:27.000 We can make a difference, or we can sit down, making excuses why we can't.

02:27:31.000 We got a break.

02:27:31.000 Got a break.

02:27:32.000 We'll come right back.

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02:30:41.000 Ideal, legislation, documents, human history, what elites have done in the past, what they're setting up today,

02:31:03.000 The government openly saying they may want to suspend the election.

02:31:08.000 The giant prisons being built everywhere.

02:31:10.000 The Federal Reserve being private.

02:31:11.000 I can prove 100% all of that.

02:31:14.000 Now, is there a lot of things that have been hidden from us?

02:31:16.000 A lot of amazing things that show that truth is stranger than fiction?

02:31:20.000 Undoubtedly, yes, that's the case.

02:31:22.000 We don't know a lot.

02:31:23.000 But I do know this New World Order is evil and a fraud.

02:31:26.000 I would just challenge people to research everything for yourselves and to keep an open mind, but also to not believe everything I say or anybody else says.

02:31:34.000 Check it out for yourself.

02:31:35.000 But David Icke is a real force out there in the world, and I agree with him when he says you can be a force in the world.

02:31:41.000 You can take action.

02:31:42.000 I know you can do things.

02:31:44.000 I know you can affect change, whether it's for good or bad.

02:31:47.000 So let's try to jam a few final calls in here that we're going to have Bev Harris on with something that is totally documented, the stealing of elections, the fraud, the electronic voting machines. 0.99

02:31:57.000 But real quick, and I mean quickly callers, Anthony in Ohio, you're on the air with David Iye, go ahead.

02:32:03.000 Hi Alex, nice to talk to you.

02:32:05.000 Nice to talk to you, go ahead.

02:32:06.000 Hi David, everybody, great to talk to you.

02:32:08.000 I wanted to talk about abrupt climate change and that Pentagon report that came out in February where they predicted the UK would be like Siberia within 20 years or so.

02:32:21.000 I wanted to know if... And notice there's a movie out at the very same time, and saying the UN needs to take over, we need to have a world tax to save us.

02:32:30.000 I mean, yes, does the Earth change?

02:32:32.000 Yes.

02:32:32.000 But are they using this for propaganda right now?

02:32:35.000 Yes.

02:32:36.000 I mean, first it was global warming, now it's cooling.

02:32:39.000 Comments, David?

02:32:43.000 No more to say, really, except that, you know, I agree with you.

02:32:46.000 Another massive con, in fact there's a famous environmentalist in Britain who's come out very recently, last week or so, who's actually showing that the whole foundation of the theory of global warming, The so-called greenhouse gases is impossible.

02:33:08.000 But the problem is the globalists can manipulate the weather themselves and create spot crises and then go, oh, give up your rights.

02:33:15.000 Problem, reaction, solution.

02:33:17.000 Thanks for the call, Anthony.

02:33:18.000 Sean in Colorado.

02:33:19.000 Sean, you're on the air.

02:33:20.000 Go ahead.

02:33:23.000 My question is for David here.

02:33:26.000 I see in the Bible a lot of it is written, over two-thirds is written on faith and love.

02:33:32.000 And I do believe that half of Jesus' message is faith.

02:33:35.000 And if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can move the mountain with your mind.

02:33:40.000 You can walk on water.

02:33:41.000 You can take a fish and a loaf of bread and feed a thousand people.

02:33:46.000 Now, my question to you is this.

02:33:47.000 Where does faith come into your picture?

02:33:52.000 Well, faith is belief.

02:33:53.000 And belief creates and constructs reality.

02:33:56.000 uh... as uh... you know it is not mainstream scientific research uh...

02:34:00.000 would uh... uh... concurrent uh... we construct reality on the basis of our belief

02:34:06.000 uh... as i thought it was going to show that uh...

02:34:09.000 up to and sometimes more than fifty percent of the detail that enters the eyes

02:34:14.000 uh... is reconstructed by the brain before it hits the visual cortex and

02:34:18.000 becomes the world we think is around us got someone's belief and and they uh...

02:34:24.000 will construct that reality uh... so uh... yes uh... that that

02:34:28.000 makes absolute sense with you if you want to uh...

02:34:31.000 into into uh...

02:34:33.000 connect belief and faith as well Okay, got to let that caller go.

02:34:36.000 We'll get to Bernard and Brad, but I'm sorry not with David.

02:34:40.000 He's got to go in one minute.

02:34:41.000 We've got another guest coming on real quick with an update on the electronic voting machines.

02:34:45.000 But John in Tennessee, last caller for David, go ahead.

02:34:48.000 I want to apologize for David Icke.

02:34:50.000 I lived in England for ten years with the Air Force and British Motorsport.

02:34:54.000 The reason so many Europeans are not religious is because the Illuminati and Jewish Freemasons infiltrated government He used state religion for taxation and genocide, so that turns people off. 0.93

02:35:06.000 The Church of England was invented by King Henry VIII to legalize divorce so he could cut off his wife's head and he banned the English Bible.

02:35:14.000 Even the word Christianity is a Jewish invention under penalty of death since Jesus' real name was Yahshua and God's real name is Yahweh. 0.97

02:35:23.000 England was the first Christian nation, not Israel or Italy, As for New Age science, ESP is just prayer and radio waves. 0.72

02:35:30.000 Atoms can never be destroyed by explosions or time, according to every scientist on Earth.

02:35:36.000 And so-called Christians, who love George Bush, believe God is so powerless that he can't control time and space, and can't control evolution via genetics and DNA.

02:35:47.000 So Jewish Communism is an atheist religion. 0.76

02:35:50.000 And that's how the Illuminati divide and conquer.

02:35:52.000 Okay, John, thanks for the call.

02:35:54.000 I don't agree that Jews run the New World Order. 0.87

02:35:56.000 I think evil people do. 0.87

02:35:57.000 David Icke, final comments?

02:36:00.000 Well, I would agree with that in the sense that one of the great defense mechanisms that the Illuminati use against researchers is when you mention the Rothschilds, they scream anti-Semite.

02:36:15.000 Shabbat, a number of events Shut down over the years because people have targeted venues and said that I'm going to say it's all a great Jewish plot because I mentioned the Rothschilds. 0.97

02:36:27.000 The Illuminati work through all races and they use them and then they discard them just like they do with individuals.

02:36:35.000 This is this is beyond Earth races.

02:36:38.000 This whole story and Those that blame just the Jews just forget that Jewish people as a whole have been victims of this Illuminati over the centuries and not perpetrators of it.

02:36:51.000 But are some of the members of the Rothschilds who call themselves Jewish?

02:36:57.000 Yes.

02:36:57.000 But that doesn't mean it's a Jewish plot.

02:36:59.000 All right.

02:37:00.000 David Icke, a very interesting two hours.

02:37:02.000 Thanks for coming on and I hope to have you back up sometime.

02:37:05.000 Take care.

02:37:07.000 All right, folks.

02:37:08.000 You wanted it.

02:37:09.000 Hundreds of emails.

02:37:09.000 Have David Icahn.

02:37:10.000 We did it.

02:37:11.000 I don't agree with some of the things he has to say, obviously, but if it gets you thinking, so be it.

02:37:15.000 Now joining us from Austin, Texas, we had her on the first 30 minutes. 1.00

02:37:18.000 She'll be on for the rest of the broadcast with us.

02:37:21.000 Take a few calls here in a moment.

02:37:22.000 It's Bev Harris, who documents things 100%.

02:37:24.000 She is the forefront of exposing electronic voting machine fraud, and she's here in Austin, Texas, doing research.

02:37:32.000 She's on a 14-state tour.

02:37:34.000 And, Bev, good to have you on with us.

02:37:37.000 Well, hi there!

02:37:38.000 Again!

02:37:41.000 Coming up tomorrow, 11 a.m.

02:37:43.000 at the Capitol in the main Rotunda area, you're going to be there.

02:37:47.000 Do you have any details of how folks can come down to the Capitol for this rally for transparency in voting?

02:37:55.000 We need as many people there as possible, because remember, It makes a big difference.

02:38:00.000 In fact, they're thinking nationwide that Austin may set the pace for the country.

02:38:04.000 So get down there and show folks that you want to get auditable voting, and you want transparency in the election system.

02:38:15.000 Absolutely, indeed.

02:38:17.000 And so that's coming up.

02:38:18.000 But do you have the details of where exactly it'll be at the Capitol tomorrow?

02:38:22.000 It's going to be in the Rotunda, I believe.

02:38:24.000 And it's going to be at 11 o'clock.

02:38:26.000 And so it'd be better to get there about 1045.

02:38:27.000 Get ready.

02:38:29.000 And make a showing.

02:38:31.000 All right, and then tomorrow night you're going to be at a local community event, and tell folks about that.

02:38:37.000 Yeah, I've got a fundraiser, and that fundraising is going directly for consumer protection in this next election.

02:38:43.000 Excuse me, we're going to need it.

02:38:44.000 It's going to be at the Unitarian Church, I believe.

02:38:47.000 And that will be from 7 to 10, and I will be producing some, I will be reporting some information that nobody has got yet.

02:38:58.000 Which is coming from our 14-state tour of some of the things that we have been... What we've been doing is what nobody else has been doing, is going directly into the belly of the beast.

02:39:07.000 You've been chronicling the federally engineered fraud at the local level, at the point-blank range.

02:39:13.000 Right, because, you know, an election always takes place at the local level.

02:39:17.000 Well, it certainly does, Bev, and, you know, I wanted to get you back on, because you asked Mulling how to delay or cancel a member vote in case of attack.

02:39:27.000 And the same people that helped put in these electronic no record voting machines are the ones now talking about canceling the election.

02:39:35.000 This is outrageous.

02:39:36.000 Your comments on that?

02:39:37.000 It is absolutely outrageous and we have to nip this in the bud.

02:39:41.000 And let me tell you something, in the event that there was some sort of a problem, the only reason it should ever even be postponed for a day is in specific locations where it's physically impossible to hold an election.

02:39:54.000 But let me tell you, What they should be talking about, if they're talking about this at all, is Plan B. Plan B. Get some pencils.

02:40:02.000 Give the day off to count the votes.

02:40:04.000 We can roll up our sleeves and do what we can do.

02:40:07.000 But what are we talking about with cancelling and postponing elections?

02:40:12.000 But then we can't have a no audit trail.

02:40:16.000 We've got to have the fraud.

02:40:17.000 We can't have the old-fashioned paper ballot.

02:40:19.000 Oh gosh!

02:40:21.000 Wouldn't that be great?

02:40:22.000 That doesn't allow centralized fraud of the entire system, Bev.

02:40:27.000 Well, you know, this is the great thing.

02:40:30.000 When we start demanding these simple, simple things, it puts the onus on the other folks to justify why they're coming up with these ridiculous ideas.

02:40:40.000 And they should.

02:40:40.000 They should have to justify it.

02:40:41.000 Bev, here's a parallel with What's happening here, you know, they call no audit trail, caught coast-to-coast, engage in fraud, manipulating votes, they call that freedom and say we're bad to want an audit trail or a record or a receipt.

02:40:56.000 Meanwhile, they appoint a government, appoint a president, he declares martial law in Iraq, they put the Ba'athists and the Communists into power, And then they call that a democracy? 0.86

02:41:09.000 I mean, so now puppet governments, uh, cancelled elections, appointed Supreme Court governments, I guess this is freedom!

02:41:18.000 They're relabeling tyranny as freedom, Bev! 1.00

02:41:22.000 Well, you know, the thing is, yes, we have to just keep, we gotta keep them honest.

02:41:27.000 I know, don't laugh, you know, but, but to be silent is not the answer.

02:41:31.000 Every single time we hear stuff like, We need to cancel elections to protect democracy.

02:41:37.000 Absolutely the opposite.

02:41:39.000 No, we don't cancel up democracy for fear.

02:41:42.000 You know, our sons and daughters are dying to vote, literally.

02:41:45.000 And we need to get out there and stop this kind of talk and just, you know, when you hear something like that, just say, nope, not having it and speak up.

02:41:54.000 Well, Bev, go back to what you brought up earlier.

02:41:58.000 I mean, the very new federal body created by Bush that oversees the Federal Elections Commission, these are the guys putting in the voting machines, these scam systems, they're the people saying, cancel the election or postpone it.

02:42:10.000 I'm very concerned about this.

02:42:12.000 They're also the people who are saying, we don't really think it's a good idea to have election monitors.

02:42:17.000 What is that?

02:42:18.000 Give us the names and the mechanism.

02:42:22.000 Forrest Tessori is the head of it, and I'll tell you some of the same people that put the touchscreen voting machines in, Britton Williams, Paul Craft, Danetta Davidson, these kinds of people, the same people that pushed the unauditable systems down our throat are the ones that got appointed to this new committee.

02:42:43.000 And what's really strange about that is they created a fiasco.

02:42:46.000 We all know that.

02:42:47.000 You know, we've got states that are decertifying it, and counties that are rescinding their contracts.

02:42:52.000 We've got lawsuits in multiple locations.

02:42:55.000 Why would you choose people who had put that kind of fiasco in place and put them into a national committee, which is supposed to... Well, it's a damage committee.

02:43:03.000 It's a damage control.

02:43:05.000 It's like Bush appointing the 9-11 Commission and calling an independent.

02:43:09.000 And I'll tell you what else to expect.

02:43:11.000 Okay, this is something I'm finding out in my research.

02:43:14.000 There is a company called Vote Here.

02:43:16.000 Which wants to produce a cryptographic technique where you basically get some sort of a receipt and then get a code number, go compare something with the internet.

02:43:25.000 And that's an algorithm within the scam or a certification on the machines.

02:43:30.000 Right, and still you've got a couple of people who you don't know controlling everything and just doing the simple thing, count the ballots.

02:43:37.000 It's simple, it's simple.

02:43:38.000 When you come in, you're given a vote number, not even off your name, and then it prints off into a ballot box for recounts.

02:43:45.000 And you know what?

02:43:46.000 This is the funny thing.

02:43:47.000 Why are we spending billions and billions and billions of dollars when if they can't find enough people to count the vote, give the day off then and tell them, okay, we can count the vote this way.

02:43:57.000 I mean, we're doing amazing things just simply to get away from having evidence of what the vote is and counting it properly in front of many eyes.

02:44:06.000 And I'm telling you, this is really, um, this Vote Here Company, it's just an inside I just recently read memos indicating they're putting it into the Diebold system.

02:44:19.000 I didn't know that.

02:44:20.000 It's in the Sequoia system.

02:44:26.000 We've got this company that no one knows anything about putting some sort of cryptography Inside the voting system.

02:44:34.000 And then no one's allowed to look at it because, quote, it's proprietary software.

02:44:38.000 Yeah, and we're the cryptographers who know best.

02:44:40.000 And if you look at who's on the board of this company, you're right.

02:44:42.000 I don't mean to sound alarmist, but these are CIA directors.

02:44:46.000 You know, Robert Gates is on the board.

02:44:49.000 One of the guys on the Defense Policy Board, Admiral Bill Owens, was the chairman of the board.

02:44:54.000 Former NSA.

02:44:54.000 Yeah, and he was former, he was the chairman of the board for many years.

02:44:58.000 And our, my state is Washington State.

02:45:02.000 Our Secretary of State stepped down and took a position as Chairman of the Board, and he didn't even wait the one year required, he waited like three days, went over and took that, and now they're pushing this system into our state.

02:45:16.000 We have to be up to speed on this stuff, and we have to speak up and say, no, I don't want that system, this is what I want, and don't back down.

02:45:24.000 And I'll tell you the hint, from when they're trying to switch over to these cryptography things, Ballot versus trail.

02:45:31.000 If they're talking about a paper ballot, that's what we want.

02:45:34.000 If they're talking about a paper trail, they're generally planning to switch over into this cryptography stuff at a later date.

02:45:42.000 Alright, Bev.

02:45:42.000 Because it's a trail.

02:45:44.000 Bev Harris, I know you're busy, I'm going to let you go, but I know tomorrow you're going to be bringing out some instances of how they're paying the people off locally to go along with this with the thousands of county clerks And I want to get you up for an hour later this week, after you've gotten out of town, to go over this with us.

02:46:06.000 But tomorrow, 1045, inside the Capitol, folks, just ask the state police, hey, where's the people about the voting machines?

02:46:14.000 And they'll direct you into the rotunda.

02:46:17.000 And then tomorrow night, 7 o'clock, and Bev, the website's blackboxvoting.org.

02:46:23.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

02:46:24.000 Thank you.

02:46:26.000 You bet.

02:46:26.000 You're awesome.

02:46:27.000 Take care.

02:46:27.000 I just really wanted to promote that today, so I had her on the first 30 minutes and then had her back on for a few minutes now.

02:46:33.000 Boy, this broadcast has just blasted past us, but I'm going to come back and take a few final calls from folks that have been holding the longest, but look at this New York Times article.

02:46:43.000 A secret conference thought to rule the world.

02:46:46.000 Another new New York Times article saying, yeah, they basically appointed John Edwards at the Bilderberg Group meeting.

02:46:55.000 And our comment is, you know it's coming down to the wire when the New York Times talks about Bilderberg and world government.

02:47:02.000 Externalization of the hierarchy has never been more apparent.

02:47:05.000 That's on PrisonPlanet.com and TV and InfoWars right now.

02:47:09.000 Arafat says Israel masterminded Tel Aviv bombing.

02:47:13.000 Jerusalem Post, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, condemns Sunday's Tel Aviv bombing explosion that was claimed by Eska Martyrs Brigades accusing Israel of masterminding the attack.

02:47:25.000 Arafat suggested the attack was an act of provocation carried out by Israel following the ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague against the West Bank security fence.

02:47:34.000 Arafat said, we are against such kinds of bombings and you must never forget that the Israelis are completely behind it as they have been in the past. 0.99

02:47:41.000 By the way, Israel, Yasser Arafat isn't the only person.

02:47:44.000 I don't support him.

02:47:45.000 He's Bilderberg, Minion.

02:47:48.000 They're all together on this.

02:47:49.000 It was Yitzhak Rabin, right before he was killed, said this.

02:47:54.000 Speaking to reporters after the meeting of the U.N.

02:47:56.000 Relief and Workers Agency, Commissioner General Peter Hanson, Arafat added, you know who is behind these acts, which are aimed at harming the court decision.

02:48:05.000 Europe knows it.

02:48:06.000 The Americans, the Egyptians, the Virginians, and the Israelis also know it.

02:48:10.000 So see, it's becoming mainstream that governments blow up their own people to blame it on their enemy and keep the crisis going.

02:48:21.000 Oh my gosh.

02:48:23.000 Look at these articles.

02:48:24.000 Birth control, pill and sewage, blame for sex change in fish, London Telegraph, and you're still drinking tap water, Prince, Sound's new nanotech alarm.

02:48:36.000 Oh man, it's just so much, folks.

02:48:38.000 We'll come back, take a few final calls, wrap up this global transmission against tyranny.

02:48:43.000 Stay with us.

02:48:44.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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02:51:54.000 Anti-war group says its ad is rejected.

02:51:57.000 I just wanted to put up a billboard, a bunch of them, they're trying to buy them from Clear Channel, that owns most of the billboards, a large portion of them, that said, uh, red, white, and blue, uh, with the words, democracy is best taught by example, not war, and Clear Channel says, no, you can't buy billboards from us.

02:52:18.000 I mean, come on, folks, and then they buy up everything?

02:52:20.000 You see, this is the monopoly we're talking about?

02:52:24.000 Very, very serious.

02:52:25.000 And very, very dangerous.

02:52:27.000 And again, we're not a democracy, we're a republic, we only quit using that term.

02:52:31.000 But it wouldn't matter what the billboard said, as long as it wasn't profane, they should be able to buy that advertising.

02:52:38.000 It's like gun ads can't be in most newspapers now.

02:52:41.000 We just don't take that, they say.

02:52:43.000 You see where this leads, folks?

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02:53:43.000 Bernard in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:53:45.000 I'm going to keep it short today.

02:53:47.000 I know you're short of time.

02:53:48.000 Listen, you're my favorite person in the whole world.

02:53:50.000 I'm going to address you as Dr. Jones.

02:53:53.000 That's my dad, not me.

02:53:54.000 Let me tell you something.

02:53:57.000 Stick to your straightforward stuff.

02:53:59.000 Your guest is a nice guy.

02:54:01.000 He's got some good stuff.

02:54:03.000 You've got to forget about faith and all.

02:54:06.000 You've got to get out there and make some noise about real things.

02:54:10.000 One thing I want to talk about is this woman, Bev Harris.

02:54:12.000 This is the most important thing in the world.

02:54:14.000 And I want to put a suggestion out to people to think about what we need to do about the vote.

02:54:20.000 Think about all the elderly people. 1.00

02:54:22.000 There's no way they can even vote!

02:54:25.000 Why don't we vote on the telephone with a PIN number or your Social Security number?

02:54:29.000 How many elderly people in this country will never be able to vote, and they know it. 0.72

02:54:34.000 They've been cut out of Medicare, cheated in every way.

02:54:38.000 It's just horrible.

02:54:39.000 I want your comment.

02:54:40.000 Well, yeah, a lot of older folks don't even know how to work, you know, any type of computer, and I don't blame them.

02:54:45.000 They were never taught on them, and it's a great point. 1.00

02:54:47.000 Thanks for the call.

02:54:48.000 Really good point.

02:54:50.000 Who's up next here?

02:54:52.000 Rodney in Texas.

02:54:53.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:54:54.000 Okay, something else that's very provable.

02:54:57.000 Yesterday's Baltimore Sun, it was talking about how Julio Chavez President of Venezuela has decided to use the very corrupt voting machines that we have over here in our country and it even cited the company, Senator Chuck Hagel's company out of Omaha, Nebraska.

02:55:17.000 Your comments?

02:55:18.000 You gotta love it.

02:55:18.000 Chuck Hagel.

02:55:19.000 People vote for Chuck Hagel on his machines and he wins by landslides when the polls say the opposite.

02:55:25.000 No, it's true.

02:55:26.000 I mean, it's just a joke.

02:55:28.000 And just one other thing Alex said.

02:55:31.000 This has caused outrage over in Venezuela.

02:55:34.000 The people over there, they're fully aware of it, but we're over here dead asleep.

02:55:39.000 I hear you, thanks for the call.

02:55:41.000 Mike in Ohio, last caller, go ahead.

02:55:44.000 Hello?

02:55:44.000 Yes.

02:55:45.000 Yeah, I talked to a man that worked with a large corporation a couple years ago.

02:55:50.000 Yes.

02:55:51.000 And I asked him what the ISO might have to do with globalism and one world order, because they involve a lot of the corporations now.

02:55:58.000 And he said he didn't think I don't seem to think that had anything to do with it.

02:56:03.000 What do you think?

02:56:04.000 What?

02:56:04.000 I didn't hear what you said.

02:56:05.000 International standardization, organization, technology.

02:56:07.000 Oh, of course, yeah, and the OECD and all of them, it's diverged.

02:56:11.000 Why wouldn't he tell me that?

02:56:12.000 He didn't think that was part of it. 0.98

02:56:14.000 Oh, that's ridiculous.

02:56:15.000 I mean, state laws are all run past these boards that make sure they fit into all the treaties. 0.87

02:56:20.000 Look, our Supreme Court says they're following the UN.

02:56:23.000 We're out of time.

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Alex Jones Show - July 12, 2004

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