Alex Jones Show - 20040726_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Well, my friends, it's already the 26th day And I'm glad that you've joined us on this Monday edition, again, July 26, 2004.

00:00:38.000 On this Monday, the websites are infowars.com, prisonplanet.com, and prisonplanet.tv.

00:00:50.000 Big broadcast lined up.

00:00:52.000 There's just so much news.

00:00:53.000 We've got three guests coming up, and wide open telephones.

00:00:56.000 But after the first break, in the second segment, I've got a story to tell you.

00:01:01.000 I am very lucky to be alive after what happened last night.

00:01:06.000 To put it mildly, we drove through a tornado.

00:01:12.000 And I didn't know it at the time.

00:01:14.000 And my truck is totaled.

00:01:18.000 But I tell you, we came out of it almost without a scratch.

00:01:24.000 It was just me and my father driving back from seeing my uncle.

00:01:31.000 We slowed down about 45-50 miles an hour because it was raining hard off and on.

00:01:36.000 The wind was high.

00:01:37.000 We're about to pull over.

00:01:40.000 I'll tell you the story coming up.

00:01:42.000 But it feeds into just everyday life and the nature of the world and the facts of life and death and how fragile life is.

00:01:55.000 and uh... how dangerous it is to be out driving on the highways period much less when uh... there's a flash tornado go from blue skies in about twenty minutes to pouring down rain in a tornado but uh... fbi probes report group planning convention attack and again the group planning this is domestic and of course it's one of the little anarchist groups which we know are hired thugs of the government

00:02:22.000 In my Police State 2 film, Police State 2 The Takeover, I have video of police admitting that they were hired by the government, housed by the government, protected by the government in Seattle.

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00:02:57.000 That's all this is about.

00:02:59.000 That's exactly what's happening here.

00:03:01.000 So we'll get into that and we've got some guests coming on who took photos that the press hasn't shown you in detail of these protester cages.

00:03:11.000 A bunch of them are under a train station at basement level where no one can see them in barbed wire cages.

00:03:20.000 And the media is not allowed down to interview them.

00:03:22.000 So your new freedom is actually in a cage.

00:03:27.000 So we'll cover that report as well.

00:03:29.000 And I've talked about how they're going to make us take vaccines that will change our brain makeup, that will change our attitudes and behavior.

00:03:36.000 There have been discussions of doing a blood test and if you have DNA that shows you might be aggressive in life, by law they're going to give you a shot that changes your brain chemistry.

00:03:47.000 Deadly stuff.

00:03:48.000 They're already doing that with many vaccines, by the way, that just reduce IQ in the general public.

00:03:52.000 But this is out of the mainstream news, my friends.

00:03:57.000 And it says they're going to make children take it.

00:03:59.000 Children to get jabs against drug addiction.

00:04:03.000 London Independent.

00:04:05.000 Ministers consider vaccination scheme, heroin, cocaine, and nicotine targeted, that change the brain chemistry To where you cannot be receptive to these.

00:04:15.000 Of course, it will also block your natural endorphins and make you a very unhappy, depressed person and alter your brain.

00:04:21.000 But, hey, it's all part of freedom!

00:04:22.000 You know, injecting you to change your brain chemistry.

00:04:26.000 So, we'll get into that as well.

00:04:27.000 There's just so much coming up.

00:04:29.000 The new passports to have trackable microchips in them.

00:04:34.000 And again, just so much more, but I'll briefly tell you the story of what happened last night.

00:04:40.000 I am blessed to be here.

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00:04:43.000 I thank Jesus that we're alive because it was amazing.

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00:08:25.000 All right, my friends, it is Monday, the 26th day of July, 2004.

00:08:30.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:08:32.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:08:36.000 I am lucky to be alive.

00:08:38.000 Blessed to be alive is the proper term.

00:08:41.000 I haven't had a car wreck in many years, and my wife and mother drove in my wife's car, and I drove in my truck out to Fredericksburg, Texas for my uncle's Birthday yesterday, and we were driving back.

00:09:01.000 We were going to stay later, but we saw this giant storm rolling across the hills and mountains of, you know, out there in the hill country, and it was moving really fast.

00:09:12.000 It traveled about 15 miles in about 30 minutes.

00:09:17.000 We could see it off at a distance, and we got caught by it, and then other storms developed, and as we got into the edge of Johnson City, Out on 290.

00:09:27.000 You're saying, why are you telling the story?

00:09:28.000 Well, you'll hear why.

00:09:31.000 We're driving along, and other cars are driving about 65 down the 70 mile an hour highway.

00:09:36.000 My dad says, you might want to slow down.

00:09:38.000 This looks like really bad weather.

00:09:41.000 And you would drive into torrential sheets of rain where you could barely see in front of your car.

00:09:45.000 Then it would get clear.

00:09:46.000 And we're driving along, and then all of a sudden, the vehicle just spins twice, flies off the highway, down the embankment, my Tahoe, Down the gully into two huge oak trees and crushes about four or five feet of the car in.

00:10:03.000 And, uh, I mean, the shock was so powerful into the back of the vehicle that the ceiling of the car fell in, despite the fact that it wasn't even struck by the trees.

00:10:18.000 And as we're flying off the highway, I told my dad, brace for impact.

00:10:21.000 It was like a movie.

00:10:22.000 You're about to crash your plane.

00:10:24.000 All I said was, brace for impact!

00:10:26.000 And we hit so hard that the steering wheel broke in my hands.

00:10:30.000 The steering column just smashed in.

00:10:33.000 And there we were, about 20 feet off the side of the road, backed into these oak trees.

00:10:43.000 And then I climbed out of the vehicle, walked up to the side of the highway.

00:10:47.000 The fire ants, when it rains, all come out of the ground and climb up to the top of the grass.

00:10:50.000 I've got fire ants all over my feet.

00:10:52.000 But we are so blessed that we were not killed, because if we would have hit the trees side-on, I mean, it crushed in four or five feet at the back, straight on the back and on one of the sides, and knocked out all the windows in the back and the sides, that it probably would have really hurt one of us or killed one of us.

00:11:14.000 And my dad thought he was okay.

00:11:15.000 He was going to take me to get a rent car early this morning.

00:11:19.000 He started a week-long vacation today, so he could do it.

00:11:22.000 He lives down the road from me, and I called this morning and said, hey dad, you're not here at 8 o'clock.

00:11:26.000 And he said, while I was up all night, I had a concussion.

00:11:29.000 And my dad's, you know, got a medical degree.

00:11:31.000 He's a doctor, so he knows these things.

00:11:33.000 His pupils were different sizes, and he was throwing up all night.

00:11:37.000 I got a headache and a neck ache out of it.

00:11:39.000 I may have a concussion, but just still.

00:11:43.000 Thank God we're not dead.

00:11:46.000 But we got blown off the road.

00:11:48.000 I thought maybe we hydroplaned or got blown off.

00:11:50.000 I didn't know.

00:11:50.000 But then the state police pulled up.

00:11:52.000 Two different cars.

00:11:53.000 Really nice guys.

00:11:55.000 One of them is a fan of the radio show and listens to it.

00:11:59.000 And the other one, I knew who I was, but hadn't heard the show.

00:12:04.000 So nice.

00:12:05.000 I mean, they were out there in the driving rain with lightning blowing trees up nearby.

00:12:10.000 I mean, this was really scary weather.

00:12:12.000 And, uh, they, uh, you know, gave us some towels and helped us because the vehicle had the windows knocked out and was pouring rain.

00:12:19.000 And just, just, you know, that's the type of officers we need.

00:12:22.000 Just like firefighters.

00:12:23.000 A firefighter stopped and he was the first to stop and help us.

00:12:27.000 But, uh, Then I'm sitting there in the police radio, and they go, yeah, we just got hit by a good-sized tornado in Johnson City.

00:12:36.000 That's three miles ahead.

00:12:37.000 And they said it was coming from the direction of Fredericksburg and tore up some trees.

00:12:42.000 And driving in, we noticed some trees were down and parts of trees in the road.

00:12:46.000 Other cars were just driving 65 miles an hour.

00:12:49.000 They were going around us.

00:12:50.000 I had slowed down.

00:12:52.000 Which, in a way, might have actually got us caught in a tornado.

00:12:54.000 Because we were about two, three miles outside Johnson City where the tornado, we found out, had touched down.

00:12:59.000 Then it touched down again in town.

00:13:01.000 Power was off in town.

00:13:02.000 Power lines down.

00:13:03.000 Tore up a couple houses.

00:13:06.000 Overturned some cars, we found out.

00:13:09.000 And so, I believe it was high winds from the tornado or from a funnel that literally, because, you know, I've hydroplaned before and the water wasn't that deep where we were at.

00:13:20.000 And I was going slow enough to not hydroplane.

00:13:22.000 I mean, the car just literally spun, got almost picked up, it felt like, and thrown off the highway into these oak trees.

00:13:31.000 So, that's the story, and God, thank you for your protection.

00:13:38.000 Who knows if that wouldn't have happened.

00:13:41.000 The tornado hit the middle of town a few minutes later, I might have been hit by the tornado that hit cars in town.

00:13:47.000 People barely got out of some of their cars because the flooding in town was so bad.

00:13:50.000 In fact, I heard firefighters on the radio going, they're barely getting out!

00:13:54.000 Water just overtook the vehicle!

00:13:56.000 My God, they may be in the vehicle!

00:13:57.000 Get over! 0.98

00:13:58.000 They got out!

00:13:58.000 Good!

00:13:59.000 I mean, this is what I was hearing on the radios inside the police car.

00:14:02.000 And they were saying, man, you're really lucky to be alive.

00:14:04.000 If that would have hit the side of your vehicle, you'd be dead or injured really bad.

00:14:08.000 Because again, the back of the truck, steel bumper, everything of the Tahoe was smashed in almost up to the back seats.

00:14:17.000 And then another tree hit on the side of the back panel and crushed the whole door in.

00:14:24.000 But we instantly stopped.

00:14:25.000 I mean, we hit that thing and just BAM!

00:14:28.000 And I thought we got away completely scot-free, minus the fire ant bites.

00:14:34.000 Because they were very angry that we had plowed through their home.

00:14:37.000 These horrible Brazilian ants we have down here. 0.77

00:14:42.000 Still away from Brazil back in the fifties. 0.78

00:14:45.000 But I probably got literally fifty fire ant bites.

00:14:50.000 My feet are swollen up in red.

00:14:52.000 I hope my dad's going to be alright.

00:14:53.000 I'm sure he is.

00:14:54.000 He's out taking care of business today.

00:14:57.000 Concussion.

00:14:58.000 Up all night throwing up with his people's different sizes. 0.99

00:15:02.000 A bruise on the brain.

00:15:05.000 I guess I didn't get a concussion, though I do have a headache.

00:15:11.000 All the time I talk about how you can Die in a minute.

00:15:16.000 You can fall down the stairs, break your neck.

00:15:18.000 The number one cause of death in this country, below the age of 55, is an automobile accident.

00:15:23.000 What is it, like 400,000, 390,000 people die a year in cars?

00:15:30.000 I think it's like 12 times what die from guns.

00:15:34.000 I think 10 times what die from grounding.

00:15:38.000 But literally, leaving my uncles, we saw a tree get blown up by lightning 200 yards from us.

00:15:45.000 Then we're driving down the road, 30 miles later by Johnson City, and see lightning hitting trees.

00:15:53.000 I mean, this was wild weather, because it was broad daylight at 630 when we left his house, with the storm coming.

00:16:01.000 And it was dark black once we went into the storm.

00:16:05.000 And it just happened so quickly.

00:16:07.000 But, you know, I talk about that all the time.

00:16:09.000 You're afraid to fight the New World Order.

00:16:12.000 Oh, they might come get you.

00:16:14.000 You're afraid to speak up.

00:16:16.000 Your neighbors might think you're weird or, you know, have bizarre ideas.

00:16:20.000 But you'll get in your car.

00:16:21.000 You'll give your 16-year-old son or daughter, with almost no training, this is where I believe there should be more training, an automobile.

00:16:29.000 And statistically, that's where most of the deaths come from, is people 16 to 18.

00:16:32.000 I mean, I haven't had a wreck since I was a teenager, and I had a few bad wrecks.

00:16:37.000 And frankly, in hindsight, I don't think I'm going to let my children have automobiles until they're 20.

00:16:45.000 Of course, they're not going to listen to that, but I'm going to make them go through just, I don't know, maybe send them to Germany for their driver's test or something, where it's more intensive.

00:16:55.000 But by and large, I'm a good driver.

00:16:58.000 And, uh, you know, I defensively drive, but I guess there's nothing you can do when the tornado hits you.

00:17:04.000 And the police seem to believe that we were hit by the tornado.

00:17:08.000 Because they looked at the... what happened, and there were really no skid marks on the highway.

00:17:12.000 It was like the car was... All I know is the car was spinning around in circles and felt like it was off the ground and then thrown into trees.

00:17:20.000 So, I know there was a tornado touching down at that very time.

00:17:25.000 Uh, so...

00:17:28.000 Again, my friends, you never know when it's your time.

00:17:31.000 Life is so fragile, so beautiful, so special.

00:17:38.000 We take these risks to own automobiles, and I think those risks are worth it.

00:17:43.000 But at the same time, until you're 55, then it's heart attacks and cancer.

00:17:47.000 The number one thing in your life to worry about is your automobile.

00:17:53.000 So I ask you a psychological question.

00:17:55.000 Why do you get in your truck or car, and not worry about it, and get out there on the interstate highway driving 70 miles an hour, with all this steel and aluminum and concrete around you, and not worry, but then you're afraid that the men in black ski masks are going to come get you if you fight corruption?

00:18:12.000 I mean, look, life is a battlefield.

00:18:15.000 Life is so short, and you might as well live it well, and live it with good morals, and stand up against evil.

00:18:22.000 Because when it's your time, it's your time.

00:18:26.000 I mean, I had high winds, probably a tornado, pick me up and throw me off the highway like a matchbox.

00:18:33.000 And I'm still here, just because God wants me to still be here.

00:18:39.000 And the moment God doesn't want me to be here, I won't be here anymore.

00:18:44.000 And so, kiss your wife, kiss your husband, hug your children, you know, call your grandma, tell her that you love her.

00:18:50.000 And I'm always talking like this, because I realize how short life is, and how special and fleeting it is.

00:18:57.000 But, I mean, even more, just realize that you're not going to be able to hang on to it.

00:19:04.000 You're going to die someday, so you might as well get over it and accept it.

00:19:09.000 And I tell you, you know how when you're Got your adrenaline flowing and you're in a life-and-death situation and your brain knows it.

00:19:16.000 When my car was picked up flying off that embankment down towards those huge oak trees, I just looked over at my father and I said, brace yourself for impact and I looked at him and I loved him so much and my only concern was God, and I remember thinking this, please don't let my dad die.

00:19:34.000 Take me, but don't take my dad.

00:19:37.000 I just looked at him there And I said, brace for impact, and I watched him tense, and then I turned and hit so hard that the steering wheel broke, folks.

00:19:46.000 And I'm not even hurt!

00:19:49.000 Amazing!

00:19:51.000 Wow.

00:19:52.000 Alright, we'll get into all the news, and believe me, there's a lot of it when we get back, and we'll take your calls.

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00:24:19.000 We've got three different groups of people coming on live from the Democratic National Convention in Boston, Mass.

00:24:28.000 Starting in the middle of the next hour.

00:24:32.000 And I'm sure a lot of you watch it on television.

00:24:35.000 It is indescribable.

00:24:37.000 Black Homeland Security, Black Hawks flying around, Regular Army, National Guard, police in federally issued black combat outfits with body armor.

00:24:49.000 And they have cages built underneath the train station, a half mile away from the convention center, where no one will see them.

00:25:01.000 And you'd see these photos at InfoWars.com.

00:25:03.000 For some reason, Murphy's Law, the site is rarely down.

00:25:07.000 It is down right now, I'm told.

00:25:10.000 We've been having that happen lately in the denial of service type stuff.

00:25:14.000 But, you know, where you get a couple million hits in a few seconds, that's not normal.

00:25:20.000 That's something doing that.

00:25:23.000 But you can go to PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:25:25.000 It's on its own server.

00:25:27.000 And look at a lot of this news, PrisonPlanet.TV.

00:25:32.000 And we're about to set up InfoWars.net in the next two weeks.

00:25:35.000 I mean, it's set up now for years, but we'll revamp it and it's going to be its own mirror site as well with daily updates of news.

00:25:44.000 But you can go to websites like CPR4Democracy.com and look at photos where underground They have cages where the people are locked in cages, I'm not kidding, by the police.

00:26:01.000 What the news shows you is the barbed wire fences that contain the convention center itself and go, oh, the protesters are behind these cages.

00:26:11.000 No, the protesters are actually inside small cages that are behind those fences.

00:26:21.000 And the police are saying, oh, we're looking for some type of anarchist group to attack again.

00:26:29.000 And of course, just like in D.C.

00:26:31.000 or at the WTO meeting in Miami or Seattle in 99, Or, what happened in Genoa, Italy a few years ago.

00:26:40.000 In every case, these guys show up, burn trash cans, throw them all off cocktails at police cars.

00:26:47.000 The police sit there and take it, or order it to.

00:26:49.000 We have this on video, in my film, The Takeover.

00:26:52.000 Then the anarchists are housed in a government building, protected by the government, and openly we have police admitting they work for the government.

00:27:00.000 But it'll be in the local newspaper, never in the national newspaper.

00:27:07.000 And so then this lets them say, see, the protests are bad.

00:27:12.000 We've got to ban protests, or have protest zones, or issue more of these black helmets and black body armor and rubber bullets to the police to deal with terrorists.

00:27:21.000 And now they've got army troops with M-60 machine guns.

00:27:26.000 Heavy machine guns, folks, pointing down at the crowds.

00:27:31.000 I mean, what does this do to stop terrorists?

00:27:34.000 And again, who are the terrorists?

00:27:35.000 You look at who engineered 9-11, you look at who carried out September 11th, you look at who's behind the terror attacks. 0.57

00:27:42.000 We have the official government plans to carry out terror attacks and blame it on enemies and be used as a pretext for a police state crackdown here domestically.

00:27:51.000 They say the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom.

00:27:54.000 So I guess the government's going to get rid of our freedom, then the terrorists won't want to attack us.

00:27:59.000 And it's just horrible to watch this unfold.

00:28:02.000 What do you think about it?

00:28:03.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:28:04.000 The FBI said on Friday it was probing unconfirmed information, always unconfirmed, that a domestic group is planning to disrupt next week's Democratic National Convention by attacking media vehicles with explosives or incendiary devices.

00:28:19.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation's Boston Field Office said in a statement that members of the Boston Joint Terrorism Task Force were looking into that matter and that it would release more details if there's any credible information.

00:28:31.000 And they think it's a domestic group, perhaps anarchists.

00:28:34.000 And every time they say anarchists, that's government crisis creators.

00:28:40.000 Meanwhile, Homeland Security officer charged in tourist beating Buffalo, New York, NBC3.

00:28:47.000 A Homeland Security inspector is charged with violating a Chinese tourist's civil rights at a border crossing in Buffalo after the altercation left the innocent woman's eyes nearly swollen shut.

00:28:59.000 The incident occurred late Wednesday at the Rainbow Bridge on the U.S.-Canadian border in Niagara Falls after Customs and Border Protection officers confiscated marijuana from a male pedestrian.

00:29:09.000 Witnesses say the officer, Robert Rose, mistakenly believed the woman standing nearby was involved, sprayed her with pepper spray and threw her against a wall.

00:29:17.000 They say he kneed her in the head as she knelt on the ground.

00:29:22.000 Yeah, they sit on your head.

00:29:24.000 And struck her head on the ground while holding her hair.

00:29:26.000 The woman had bumps and bruises on her face and head. 0.99

00:29:31.000 And, uh, turns out that he tried to lie, but other cops said no.

00:29:36.000 He really did attack her for no reason.

00:29:37.000 So, good cops are now ensuring this thug is in trouble.

00:29:41.000 Good!

00:29:42.000 Good job!

00:29:43.000 Poor woman. 1.00

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00:33:14.000 Okay my friends, coming up in an hour we're having three different groups on who are At the Democratic National Convention, out in Boston, to talk about the military loaded machine guns aimed at people, the protesters confined to cages, in some cases that are in underground facilities where no one can even see them.

00:33:41.000 I mean folks, this is just unbelievable, the stuff that's going on.

00:33:46.000 I know that we've also got a lot of callers that are holding.

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00:33:50.000 I've got news about vaccines that change your brain chemistry so you, quote, can't get addicted to drugs.

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00:36:28.000 Now, I know we've got loaded phone lines and a bunch of news to get to, and I met this man about a month and a half ago.

00:36:35.000 He sent me his resume, documents, you name it.

00:36:38.000 Very articulate, great individual, freedom lover, very astute.

00:36:44.000 He's one of those folks, you talk to him, you know he knows what he's talking about.

00:36:47.000 Richard Franklin, and he was in the military, a military air traffic controller assigned to the FAA in civilian towers.

00:36:56.000 And he can lay it out for you real quick, the impossibility of the stand-down with NORAD.

00:37:04.000 That had to be on purpose.

00:37:05.000 And what happened with the air traffic controllers, and we're going to have him on for the next 15 minutes or so, but we're also going to get into other news with him and take your calls.

00:37:14.000 And Mr. Franklin, I am honored to have you on with us today, sir.

00:37:17.000 Well, I'm glad to talk to you.

00:37:19.000 I appreciate it.

00:37:21.000 Tell us just a little bit about yourself, and then basically we should have the conversation that we had at that Truth Seekers meeting a month and a half ago.

00:37:30.000 Yeah, the whole 9-11 premise bothered me when I first heard about it, knowing having been an air traffic controller for six years.

00:37:40.000 I was in the military for 11 years.

00:37:41.000 I was in SAC for five of those years.

00:37:46.000 I just know that the whole 9-11 thing could not have happened the way they tried to say it happened.

00:37:52.000 And the problem with it is, and the one thing the 9-11 Commission has not addressed, and they continue to try to hide, is the fact that the air traffic control situation has never been addressed.

00:38:01.000 And neither has the fact that the military, again, didn't do what they were supposed to do.

00:38:05.000 They haven't addressed those issues at all.

00:38:07.000 They just kind of glossed over them and took it as the assumption as being fact.

00:38:11.000 And with the understanding that if the assumption is incorrect, then everything that comes from that is also a lie.

00:38:17.000 Now, Richard, you're a successful businessman here in Austin.

00:38:21.000 You know, fellow, going around, doing well in business, you know, wearing the suit, the whole nine yards.

00:38:27.000 Why have you decided to go public and speak out?

00:38:30.000 Well, specifically for the reason that there are several people who I know have information about this who are afraid to speak out about it.

00:38:37.000 Having been in the military myself, I know that in most cases you're afraid of losing your pension, retirement, whatever it might be.

00:38:43.000 Several of the air traffic controllers on the civilian side are probably doing the same thing, probably shaking their boots, not being allowed to say anything.

00:38:49.000 They can't touch me, so I'm not really worried about that.

00:38:54.000 Now, describe your job with the military, assigned with the FAA.

00:38:59.000 Describe how things really work, because I talked to you about this.

00:39:02.000 I mean, flying with my father, if there was a storm or something when I was growing up, he, in his Cessna, would fly around it, and there's a lot of controlled airspace in Texas, and he would have to radio them and explain, giving him an exact Flight planet, he deviated just a half mile, they would launch F-16s.

00:39:21.000 Everybody who's a pilot knows this.

00:39:23.000 Within minutes, they'll launch jets on you.

00:39:25.000 But on this day, the most controlled airspace in the world, the Eastern Corridor, East Coast, D.C., New York Corridor, you've got four planes for hours, people knowing they're hijacked, and nothing happens.

00:39:37.000 Break that down for us.

00:39:38.000 Well, let's look at the first aircraft that was flying over northwestern Pennsylvania, that's supposedly going to be heading toward Washington, D.C., which you have to ask yourself how they knew it was going toward Washington, D.C., If they didn't know about that on September the 12th, I mean on September the 10th, how did they know about that on September the 12th?

00:39:55.000 That's where they're going to be flying unless they had a flight plan for these guys.

00:39:59.000 Plus, that's an over 800 mile trip.

00:40:02.000 I'm sure it was going to go through several people's airspace at that time.

00:40:05.000 How were they going to make that flight without the help of air traffic control?

00:40:08.000 You don't do that visually from 30,000 feet.

00:40:10.000 There are no landmarks to see at that point.

00:40:13.000 So we're asking ourselves several questions that were never presented.

00:40:16.000 We were presented with facts without having asked the question.

00:40:20.000 LaGuardia, Kennedy Air Force, Kennedy there and Newark International is the most densely populated air traffic in the country.

00:40:30.000 And that's the busiest time at that time during the day.

00:40:34.000 If you notice, if you go back and look at the 9-11 pictures, there are no other aircraft in the sky at that time.

00:40:39.000 They've lied about the conversation they've had with the aircraft.

00:40:42.000 You haven't heard any of those tapes.

00:40:44.000 They said they destroyed them initially.

00:40:46.000 I'm sorry, the initial lie was there was a lot of air traffic control clutter, which never happens.

00:40:52.000 That was the initial lie.

00:40:53.000 Then, two months ago, they said, we accidentally destroyed five tower tapes, and then now they're releasing select clips.

00:41:00.000 Well, first of all, there would have been several different facilities that would have contacted these aircraft.

00:41:00.000 Right.

00:41:07.000 That's the first problem they have.

00:41:08.000 They said five, is that accurate?

00:41:10.000 Absolutely not.

00:41:11.000 I mean, they didn't talk to the tower.

00:41:13.000 The tower wouldn't have had control of them in the first place.

00:41:15.000 There would have been tracons, there would have been spinners.

00:41:17.000 They weren't in tower control.

00:41:18.000 Tower is normally only going to deal with somebody that's going to be landing at the airline.

00:41:21.000 In which case, if they were, maybe the tower was in control.

00:41:24.000 Okay, then who are the five controllers or five control bases they're talking to?

00:41:30.000 You've got the center of the country there.

00:41:33.000 You've got the eastern part of the country, the eastern seaboard.

00:41:37.000 You've got the people who control everything that's going on right over in the Pennsylvania, Ohio area.

00:41:42.000 You've got the stuff that's going on in the Washington, D.C.

00:41:43.000 area.

00:41:44.000 So you have three different centers that would have been controlled.

00:41:46.000 But at no point in time would you have gotten rid of those tapes.

00:41:50.000 Those tapes are kept for five years minimum.

00:41:52.000 In the case of an incident, ten years.

00:41:55.000 So they would have had to keep the tapes on.

00:41:56.000 Now, the Associated Press had the NTSB saying, oh, we always destroy these, and we just got rid of these five tapes.

00:42:06.000 No, no.

00:42:07.000 Absolutely not.

00:42:07.000 There's no way they would have gotten rid of tapes, especially if there was incidents on those tapes.

00:42:12.000 But here's the real problem they have, even if they got rid of the tapes.

00:42:15.000 Let's get past that.

00:42:16.000 Let's give them that.

00:42:17.000 Let's go back and look at the fact that everybody out there is on the same frequency in a given area.

00:42:22.000 At some point in time, aircraft controllers would have been talking to other aircraft to make sure that I have no control over the aircraft that's out of my control at this point.

00:42:28.000 Let me make sure I give you a vector away from where they're flying.

00:42:32.000 You still have the ability to go back to those black boxes and listen to those conversations.

00:42:36.000 And we haven't heard any of those conversations yet.

00:42:38.000 They say all four were destroyed, but two passports magically fall from the sky on burn.

00:42:44.000 Oh, well, we go back to that again.

00:42:45.000 We're giving facts before we're asking questions.

00:42:49.000 We said we knew these guys left from Boston.

00:42:51.000 They left the IDs.

00:42:53.000 Well, if they were going to kill themselves, why would they use fake IDs? 0.99

00:42:57.000 That's ridiculous. 0.93

00:42:59.000 But the reality is you have to look at those planes being flown, BFR, they were flying visually. 0.63

00:43:04.000 They were going to fly from Washington, they were flying from Pennsylvania to Washington without any landmarks, no help, with no aircraft patrol help.

00:43:11.000 The same thing with the aircraft in Albany.

00:43:13.000 But then we look at what the standard procedures would have told us to do.

00:43:16.000 Well, let's stop right there, Mr. Franklin, because talking to pilots, commercial pilots, you can't fly from one point to another off the landmarks at 30,000 feet.

00:43:27.000 You have to have those radio beacons, correct?

00:43:31.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:43:32.000 Well, explain that to people.

00:43:34.000 They give you a vector, and then you tune into the beacon that you're flying to.

00:43:38.000 Yeah, how do you fly perfectly two planes and another plane into a pentagon and two towers?

00:43:43.000 Absolutely.

00:43:44.000 Absolutely.

00:43:45.000 That's another question that was not addressed.

00:43:47.000 How were they able to fly through this airspace, no near hits, busiest time of day, nobody's telling them which way to go.

00:43:55.000 But the other problem I'm having is the fact that they flew these intercept aircraft from Massachusetts and Virginia, when the closest bases were McGuire, And Andrews, right there in that area.

00:44:05.000 And those guys are sitting on standby.

00:44:07.000 Andrews is specifically set up to protect Washington, D.C.

00:44:10.000 That's its mission.

00:44:11.000 But, were you aware that one week before, they took Andrews off alert?

00:44:16.000 And that three months before Rumsfeld took the control from the generals, who since 1958, when NORAD was shut up, had the command shoot down orders, three months before Rumsfeld took that power from them, we have the Pentagon Document.

00:44:29.000 I was never, I was not aware of that.

00:44:31.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:44:33.000 We never asked a question, we were never told to go to a Vice President.

00:44:36.000 I mean, again, the time increments, we don't have that kind of time.

00:44:40.000 If you've ever seen a few good men, we don't ask questions, we just react.

00:44:44.000 And you got some hot dogs out there that would have said, you know what, we're going hot, and they're taking somebody out of the sky.

00:44:49.000 That's what they do.

00:44:51.000 And if you remember the Corey Pavin incident and some other incidents that happened out here, it doesn't take them long to get on top of you.

00:44:56.000 Well, there was the golfer, Payne Stewart.

00:45:00.000 Stewart, I'm sorry, Payne Stewart.

00:45:02.000 Yeah, within, what, 10 minutes planes were launched.

00:45:06.000 Within 18 minutes, they were surrounded.

00:45:08.000 It doesn't take very long for them to get on top of you.

00:45:08.000 That's correct.

00:45:10.000 And they go hot.

00:45:11.000 When they get up in the air and they're going to escort somebody, they rock their wings a couple of times until you get on the ground.

00:45:15.000 And if you don't get there, they put you there.

00:45:18.000 So there are some questions about that.

00:45:19.000 But then you have to look at the fact that they keep going back to the fact that there were only four or five guys on these airplanes taking over these multi-engine jets.

00:45:27.000 Again, did they know how to fly these jets?

00:45:30.000 Where did they learn how to fly them?

00:45:31.000 Because flight schools in Florida don't teach you how to fly those jets there.

00:45:35.000 They don't have flight schools that teach that.

00:45:37.000 That has to be taught at the airline.

00:45:39.000 Well, they were such bad pilots that they would get in a Cessna in Florida and then jump out of it on the runway.

00:45:44.000 Yeah.

00:45:45.000 And, uh, I mean, I've heard that a Cessna is literally a hundred times easier to fly than one of these huge passenger jets.

00:45:53.000 And again, the best pilots, the best pilots could not take off, fly 800 miles, and come back perfectly in T-bone buildings.

00:46:01.000 Well, you're being made to understand that these guys were either extremely intelligent, which means that they could take over the airplane, fly this multi-engine jet, Without any help from anyone, knew what all the instruments were, so forth and so on, yet they were dumb enough to take the frequency on where the controller heard a conversation where the pilot was telling everybody to sit down or there'd be trouble.

00:46:28.000 They knew everything about the airplane, but didn't know which button to hit for that.

00:46:32.000 You see, so there's some questions there that should have been answered.

00:46:35.000 No one's asked the pilot about that.

00:46:36.000 No one's asked any controllers about that.

00:46:38.000 No one's asked any questions about the fact that these guys could not have flown those airplanes.

00:46:42.000 Period.

00:46:44.000 And now they're saying, well, they were able to lock themselves into the cockpit and the whole of the cabin couldn't get into the cockpit, yet they were able to take over without any problems at all.

00:46:55.000 A lot of questions that haven't been asked.

00:46:58.000 They're not going to ask.

00:46:59.000 It's like the elephant's in the room and nobody wants to recognize it.

00:47:02.000 Well, again, when we had that conversation a few months ago, you're walking up to somebody at the grocery store counter, and you're done checking out, and you're going to talk to them for three minutes.

00:47:13.000 What do you say to them, Richard Franklin, as a former air traffic controller?

00:47:19.000 My God, I normally have a conversation for an hour, but by the time I'm finished with them, they have a lot of furrowed brows.

00:47:26.000 Just ask them if you know that on September 10th you didn't know anything about these guys, then how is it on September 12th we knew where they were going to fly and the whole nine yards after that?

00:47:35.000 You have to ask yourself.

00:47:36.000 And how were they able to fly without any help from an air traffic controller and a multi-engine jet, visually, from 30,000 feet from Albany, New York, turn that airplane around and fly all the way through the most densely populated airspace in the country at the most densely populated time of day?

00:47:53.000 And not hit anything else in the area.

00:47:55.000 It makes no sense.

00:47:57.000 Okay, the FAA admits that that day in that area, occupancy was at over 85%, but magically there was a computer malfunction at United and American, where exactly 20.3% were on board all four aircrafts.

00:48:11.000 Not just averaged together 20.3%, but exactly 20.3% all four aircraft.

00:48:17.000 How does that happen?

00:48:18.000 Oh, absolutely not.

00:48:19.000 And the other question you have to ask yourself, if you remember the question they had about the transponder, where the aircraft supposedly disappeared when you turned the transponder off, that's not the way the radar works either.

00:48:28.000 So they said you turned the transponder off in Pennsylvania and the airplane disappeared for five minutes.

00:48:33.000 The airplane doesn't disappear.

00:48:35.000 The information about the aircraft disappears, not the airplane.

00:48:37.000 And aircraft that size still paints a large picture on the radar.

00:48:41.000 So you've got the dot there with the little numbers beside it.

00:48:43.000 All that disappears is the little numbers.

00:48:45.000 That's correct.

00:48:46.000 You don't know what he's flying at, what speed, so and so on.

00:48:48.000 In which case, the controller would have had to talk to a lot of airplanes at that point because if you look at the flight path out there, he's going to cross a lot of flight paths and you don't know where he's flying at that point.

00:48:58.000 You're going to get everybody out of the corridor you think he's going to be flying in.

00:49:01.000 We now have a cliff that was released.

00:49:04.000 By one of the controllers that they claim have been destroyed, BBC played it going, saying, is this a drill?

00:49:10.000 Is this the exercise?

00:49:12.000 We now know that the CIA, that morning at 8.30, just so happened to be running a drill of flying jets into New York and D.C.

00:49:20.000 landmarks, and I've been told by my sources before this even came out, that that was a smoke screen for NORAD and the FAA to stand down, that it was just a drill, and then later they said, oh, it's not a drill, that way it was too late.

00:49:32.000 Do you have comments on that?

00:49:33.000 So was that the premise where they didn't contact the guy sitting right there at McGuire Air Force Base sitting on the ground?

00:49:38.000 Is that what the premise they used at that time?

00:49:39.000 Is that what they're saying?

00:49:40.000 That's what I was told by my sources then it came out in the news.

00:49:45.000 That's unbelievable.

00:49:47.000 Well, I'm sure the CIA was running a drill of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8.30 that morning just by total accident.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:49:56.000 But then the official story is they'd never heard of such a plan.

00:50:01.000 But then magically they're running a drill of the exact same thing that morning.

00:50:05.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:50:07.000 My biggest question here now, as you tell me, is the Vice President has to be informed before you shoot down a civilian aircraft.

00:50:12.000 He was.

00:50:14.000 He was in Site R.

00:50:18.000 Outside D.C.

00:50:19.000 running things, but under national security, they will not release what he said.

00:50:24.000 And supposedly, he was on loudspeakers in the bunkers nationwide, telling people what to do.

00:50:30.000 And what we have is a... The whole administration is cloaked in secrecy.

00:50:37.000 We can't get any answers out here on anything that's going on right now.

00:50:40.000 And again, if one of these things is true, then the entire premise that they've given us on 9-11 is all of it's a lie.

00:50:47.000 And everything they've done since 9-11 has also been a lie.

00:50:50.000 Amazing!

00:50:50.000 Richard Franklin, stay there my friend, we'll be back.

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00:54:08.000 In thousands of cases where small aircraft, large aircraft, private, commercial get off course for even a few minutes, they are called by the towers, by the controllers, and if they don't respond instantly, and the military's over all this, again, the towers are just over when you come in for a landing, They launch fighter aircraft, and they come, and they shoot you down.

00:54:38.000 They tell you where to land.

00:54:40.000 Or they follow your plane until it crashes in a safe area.

00:54:43.000 If it looks like it's going into a populated area, they shoot you down.

00:54:45.000 But magically, in this case, not with one, not with two, not with three, but with four aircraft over, what, the fourth aircraft right around two hours later, We have that from the people, we know the name of the pilot, shooting down Flight 93 finally, and basically refusing orders.

00:55:04.000 Because it was going for the Capitol.

00:55:07.000 A general just ordered it shot down, going back to his old authority of three months prior, before Rumsfeld had taken that authority away.

00:55:13.000 Now we're going to start the second hour with Richard Franklin, and I promise we'll go to Mike, Danny, Bob, Dan, and others that have been patiently holding.

00:55:20.000 I appreciate you holding.

00:55:22.000 I know you'll want to talk about a bunch of different issues, and I'm sure Mr. Franklin can talk about that with us as well, but in about 30 minutes, we've got some other guests about the situation with the Democratic National Convention, a total promotion of the police state to condition you.

00:55:39.000 But Mr. Franklin, there's so many other facets to this.

00:55:42.000 I mean, we know there are official stories of fraud.

00:55:45.000 We know we've proven massive lies and cover-ups and changed stories over and over again.

00:55:52.000 Any other key points you want to make concerning this?

00:55:55.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:55:57.000 The problem we're having right now is that pilots aren't jumping up and down about the fact that these guys were allowed to.

00:56:02.000 Perpetrate the lie that they were able to fly or learn how to fly these multi-engine jets, having only been in the country for a year and a half, and the amount of hours, the flight hours necessary just to qualify to get into a cockpit or a simulator to learn how to fly a multi-engine jet.

00:56:17.000 Pilots should be up in arms.

00:56:18.000 I mean, we've just told them their job isn't worth anything.

00:56:21.000 Along with that, how many different things would have had to go wrong at the time for this to have happened the way it did?

00:56:27.000 There's another question that has to be looked at.

00:56:28.000 How many things would have happened the right way just for those things to happen the way they did?

00:56:33.000 That's another question. 0.92

00:56:34.000 Well, bottom line, Richard, the government's official story is the biggest, most ridiculous conspiracy theory I've ever heard.

00:56:43.000 Well, I look at a lot of different things that you have to question yourself on.

00:56:47.000 Up to and including Henry Kissinger backing out, saying, well, you know, I had a conflict of interest.

00:56:52.000 Well, did you know the terrorist?

00:56:53.000 I mean, exactly how does that work when you're involved in this situation or you're afraid to look into it?

00:56:58.000 Are you afraid that you're going to be exposed?

00:56:59.000 That you know something about this that we don't want to know?

00:57:02.000 Again, everybody seems to be covering their own behinds on this without actually understanding... Well, we also have the Commission.

00:57:08.000 They've all got conflicts of interest and they were appointed by Bush.

00:57:11.000 Absolutely.

00:57:12.000 Absolutely.

00:57:13.000 And I looked at the whole cockpit.

00:57:16.000 They can't have flown the way they did.

00:57:17.000 They can't have looked at where they were going the way they were doing it.

00:57:20.000 There are just too many things that are wrong with this whole premise.

00:57:22.000 I mean, there's too many things for me even to go into right now.

00:57:25.000 I had to sit down with somebody for three or four hours to talk about how many different things on that day went wrong.

00:57:30.000 Let me give you a standard procedure for a guy who's flying.

00:57:33.000 If I talk to you and then you stop talking to me and I'm talking to you again and you don't respond, Within two minutes of you not responding to me, I instantly, I don't ask questions, I have you escorted at that point.

00:57:45.000 Two minutes of non-communications, after I've talked to you, I will get Jet to escort you to the ground.

00:57:52.000 And this is before 9-11?

00:57:55.000 Absolutely.

00:57:56.000 Absolutely.

00:57:56.000 You don't have to shoot him down, but you will be escorted.

00:58:00.000 So if they have to get permission to be shot down, I'd even let them have that.

00:58:04.000 But those aircraft were all off course for over 15 minutes.

00:58:06.000 After the first plane hit the building, the second aircraft was still off course for over 15 minutes.

00:58:11.000 McGuire can get in the air in less than five minutes.

00:58:14.000 They could have been intercepted well before they ever got to that second tower.

00:58:17.000 So that wasn't even a problem.

00:58:18.000 They could have been escorted, even without being shot down.

00:58:23.000 But I'm sure that they knew they were going to be shot down.

00:58:24.000 They could have turned that aircraft around, if that be the case.

00:58:29.000 Unless nerve gas has been released and remote control is in power.

00:58:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:35.000 That's my whole thought process is they will control those aircraft some other way than somebody in the aircraft actually controlling them.

00:58:42.000 Because computers can fly a jet just like a cruise missile.

00:58:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:47.000 Stay with us.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 This broadcast is not left or right.

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00:59:21.000 We're anti-corrupt law.

00:59:23.000 We're anti-New World Order.

00:59:26.000 We're against gun control, we're against tyranny.

00:59:29.000 Carol Rose, Executive Director of the ACLU in Massachusetts, joins us from the Democratic National Convention, the big police state training op that we'll be covering.

00:59:41.000 Protesters in cages, troops, machine guns, helicopters in the sky.

00:59:47.000 Has nothing to do with keeping the population safe.

00:59:50.000 Then in the next hour, Tom Wallace and Janine Cresenzo joining us, who were also there protesting in the middle of all of this.

01:00:01.000 It's a big deal, so stay with us.

01:00:04.000 I know we haven't taken calls yet, because I was telling the story of how I got knocked off the road by a tornado last night and barely survived.

01:00:11.000 Thank God I did.

01:00:15.000 Also, we've got Richard Franklin, who was in the Army with SAC.

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01:00:23.000 I believe he said for 6.

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01:00:29.000 Going over how their official story of the stand-down of NORAD is impossible.

01:00:37.000 But callers are holding on a whole plethora of issues.

01:00:42.000 We'll go back over the impossibilities of 9-11, just in this one facet, a little bit later in this 30 minutes.

01:00:49.000 But right now, Richard, you want to take some calls?

01:00:51.000 Sure.

01:00:52.000 They'll probably be all over the map.

01:00:53.000 Mike in Illinois, thanks for holding her on the air.

01:00:57.000 Go ahead.

01:00:58.000 Hey, Richard.

01:00:58.000 Hey, Alex.

01:00:59.000 Hey, Richard, thanks for coming on and having the guts to do what you're doing.

01:01:02.000 It's great, because if it's not people like you, there's no way we're going to fight this new oral order.

01:01:06.000 I just want to ask you guys.

01:01:09.000 Alex, something did cross my mind because I was talking to a guy, I was in the Air Force for six years myself, and he had told me about two months ago that...

01:01:17.000 Jet airliners can be flown by computer, and actually he is the one that suggested to me that it's a possibility that those terrorists were not flying those planes.

01:01:25.000 Well look, look, look, the terrorists couldn't do it.

01:01:28.000 Some of the best pilots in the country, maybe one out of ten times, could fly a plane hundreds of miles by dead reckoning at 30,000 feet, come down with no radio beacons, and perfectly T-bone a building.

01:01:41.000 But it doesn't happen twice, it doesn't happen three times with the Pentagon, even harder to do, You know, this is a joke, people.

01:01:49.000 And, again, they, a decade ago, flew a jumbo jet from California to Australia by remote control.

01:01:57.000 Richard?

01:01:58.000 Yeah, you have to look at the fact that microprocessors are easily controlled.

01:02:01.000 That's why they have you turn off your cell phone inside the plane.

01:02:04.000 It doesn't take much power to even control what's inside the cockpit now.

01:02:08.000 Along with that, look at the flight plan, or not, let's say the flight path, of the aircraft as they were flying past Washington and so forth.

01:02:14.000 Have we heard anything from anybody on the ground as that aircraft was flying 500 miles an hour into the Pentagon from the west and then turned and made a G-turn that would have probably ripped the wings off of a normal airplane into the east side of the building?

01:02:26.000 Has anybody said anything about the fact that their windows would have been exploding all over Washington, D.C.?

01:02:32.000 Well, also, pilots have said, I've interviewed them, that they couldn't keep a plane that low and that perfect because at full speed they would have had to hit their flaps and turn the nose of the plane up just because of the wind shear or the pressure of the wind.

01:02:49.000 Well, I'm waiting for them to release the pictures of the airplane off the Pentagon where it actually crashes into the Pentagon.

01:02:54.000 They have cameras on the building.

01:02:56.000 And they should have those pictures available.

01:02:58.000 They're only releasing certain portions of information as they fabricate it.

01:03:03.000 Such as the guys who were being checked at Dulles the other day, they're now releasing that.

01:03:07.000 Here are these guys getting on airplanes, see them being double checked.

01:03:09.000 Those kind of things.

01:03:10.000 We're releasing that information now because people are asking questions and they're trying to go back and cover those bases.

01:03:15.000 But you do have the pictures of the Pentagon where an airplane should have run into the building.

01:03:20.000 Haven't seen those yet.

01:03:22.000 Now, didn't you say it's possible that no plane did actually hit the Pentagon?

01:03:25.000 Absolutely not.

01:03:27.000 I don't believe an airplane actually ever hit the Pentagon.

01:03:30.000 If you go back and look at the ground pictures and see where the wingspan should have torn into the ground or the building, that is non-existent.

01:03:37.000 Well, when a plane crashes, I mean, there's a huge debris field.

01:03:40.000 We'll be right back.

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01:07:01.000 We're talking to Richard Franklin.

01:07:05.000 And Richard worked for the U.S.

01:07:08.000 military in SAC.

01:07:11.000 And they've got these big bases all around the country that the military runs with the FAA.

01:07:17.000 They've shown it on television where they watch the big boards and track every aircraft coming in and out of the country, what's happening domestically.

01:07:25.000 Every aircraft is a blip with a number.

01:07:29.000 And within minutes of an aircraft getting off course or not responding, they launch fighter aircraft.

01:07:33.000 In every case, until September 11th.

01:07:36.000 We've been talking about how their official story is impossible.

01:07:40.000 Their official story is a fraud.

01:07:42.000 Has been proven to be a fraud.

01:07:45.000 And so many pilots have said they couldn't without landmarks.

01:07:50.000 Fly at a low level.

01:07:51.000 Fly into those buildings perfectly.

01:07:53.000 Much less from 30,000 feet if it wasn't even their original flight plan.

01:07:56.000 Aircraft fly according to beacons.

01:07:59.000 And I don't think a lot of people quite understand this.

01:08:02.000 You know, back in the old days, remember, flying prop-driven aircraft, they were always getting off course and crashing and dying, even passenger planes, back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, before they really developed all of this, because it was very dangerous.

01:08:14.000 You would get off course, much less bringing it down to just a few hundred feet, hitting these buildings.

01:08:20.000 We're about to go to Danny, Bob, Dan, and Mark and many others that are patiently holding.

01:08:28.000 But Mr. Franklin, I think this is the most important facet of this.

01:08:32.000 When you were working for SAC, Just explain to people out there that don't understand this.

01:08:39.000 It's not like driving your car with dead reckoning.

01:08:42.000 I mean, how hard would it be for someone, three separate aircraft, to take off and to fly and do these incredible maneuvers without radio beacons and to fly them perfectly into buildings?

01:08:53.000 Absolutely impossible.

01:08:55.000 In fact, in most cases, you're flying from point to point.

01:08:58.000 As the beacon, they give you different frequencies to fly to these different beacons.

01:09:02.000 But, you don't get under air traffic control, where they actually control you, until you get near enough to land to something.

01:09:09.000 You're going toward a runway or something along that line.

01:09:11.000 Or lining up for an ILS approach or something along that line.

01:09:14.000 Then you're actually under air traffic control saying, okay, you need to fly such and such, you're high or low, whatever.

01:09:19.000 We don't do that until they get very, very close to the ground.

01:09:22.000 What they did was virtually impossible.

01:09:24.000 But there's something else that needs to be looked into here.

01:09:26.000 I also have an aircraft dispatch license.

01:09:29.000 The fuel that they said caused the airplane to melt, I don't remember the lie that came right after the situation on IA&E.

01:09:35.000 They were talking about the fact that the buildings fell down because the metal started to melt, blah, blah, blah, and so forth.

01:09:43.000 If anybody goes back and looks at the fact that jet fuel, and you can look it up online, you can Google it, search it, or whatever.

01:09:48.000 And look at jet fuel and temperature it burns at.

01:09:50.000 It burns at 1112 degrees.

01:09:52.000 It's a very cool burn for the most part.

01:09:54.000 Compared to the temperature that it would have had, it would have been a blast furnace.

01:10:00.000 To have caused something to melt the way they said melted.

01:10:03.000 So the problem they have is the fact that those buildings could not have fallen the way they did.

01:10:06.000 And we go back and look at the seismographic graph and so forth and so on.

01:10:10.000 All those things are not true.

01:10:11.000 None of that could have happened.

01:10:14.000 And what element would have been added to the fuel to have caused it to burn that hot?

01:10:18.000 There's some other questions we have to look at.

01:10:20.000 So, there are a lot of questions after the fact, they try to go back and try to cover up later on with their own explanations, which again, were implausible.

01:10:27.000 So no, the airplanes could not have flown the way they were, I'm sorry.

01:10:30.000 Absolutely, and again, we've talked to pilots.

01:10:33.000 We have this large passenger jet that no one saw.

01:10:37.000 People say they saw a small commutator or a small jet.

01:10:40.000 That's what eyewitnesses all said they saw.

01:10:42.000 It flies around, swoops, Does a 360, comes back in, flies at 30 feet off the ground, folks, at full power, which you supposedly can't do because the wind builds up under the engines and pushes the aircraft back up.

01:10:58.000 They have to come in with their nose up, with their flaps up, folks.

01:11:01.000 That's how they're able to do this, but no, this thing comes straight in, perfectly hitched, leaves a 12-foot hole, no wreckage, and then later it collapses, and that's the images were shown.

01:11:13.000 Another impossibility.

01:11:15.000 Absolutely.

01:11:16.000 And the vortex coming off those wings and so forth is a tornado.

01:11:20.000 They could not have controlled that aircraft the way they said they controlled it.

01:11:23.000 And I'm still believing it was a cruise missile myself.

01:11:27.000 But again, it's all the sleight of hand.

01:11:29.000 They tell us what to believe.

01:11:30.000 We buy it.

01:11:31.000 Right.

01:11:32.000 And no one wants to recognize the elephant.

01:11:34.000 Okay, let's talk to Danny in Ohio.

01:11:36.000 Danny, thanks for holding.

01:11:37.000 Go ahead.

01:11:37.000 Hi, Alex.

01:11:39.000 Hello.

01:11:40.000 Well, I've called in before, as you know, and my mom, she was driving.

01:11:46.000 She was driving her parents to the airport, and that's where we're driving.

01:11:51.000 When I was on the way back, when we were driving back, me and my mom, we saw this chem trail.

01:11:56.000 It was right in front of the sun.

01:11:58.000 It looked like it was exactly on the sun.

01:12:00.000 And then, after that, a couple days later, I was cleaning the bathroom and my mom called me outside and she saw a satellite that looked like it was sitting right there on the moon.

01:12:11.000 Just sitting.

01:12:12.000 It did not move.

01:12:13.000 And then it started to disappear.

01:12:15.000 Well, you might have been seeing a drone or something, but I know out in West Texas you can watch the satellites all day, but, uh, Well, it was probably a blimp or aircraft or something, but there is a lot of weird stuff going on with atmospheric manipulation.

01:12:28.000 The BBC admitted that the Chinese government has been manipulating their weather.

01:12:32.000 I mean, that's an old science, but how old are you, Dani?

01:12:36.000 Ten.

01:12:37.000 Well, it's good to have you listening to the broadcast.

01:12:41.000 How are you listening to us?

01:12:44.000 I'm listening to it on a shortwave radio.

01:12:47.000 Great, because we've got two affiliates in Ohio And you might be able to listen to us on your local AM stations, but good to hear from you, Danny.

01:12:56.000 Let's talk to Bob in Texas.

01:12:57.000 Bob, you're on the air.

01:12:58.000 Go ahead.

01:12:59.000 Hi, gentlemen.

01:13:00.000 Good afternoon.

01:13:01.000 I'm glad you made it, Alex.

01:13:03.000 I saw that storm yesterday, and it was a monster.

01:13:06.000 Probably I was looking at it just as you were getting swiped off the road.

01:13:09.000 Well, I told that story an hour ago.

01:13:11.000 For those that just joined us, why don't you recap?

01:13:14.000 You're coming back from Fredericksburg with your father.

01:13:19.000 Apparently you got caught in the vortex of a tornado and it whipped you off the road and smashed the car up pretty good and gave your father a concussion and the steering wheel busted off in your hand.

01:13:30.000 I don't know if that's just cheap engineering or you were holding on so tight.

01:13:34.000 Oh no, it was definitely I was bracing as we flew off the road backwards and hit two huge oak trees.

01:13:40.000 And you just cracked into the steering column and totally smashed in the vehicle about four or five feet.

01:13:46.000 I saw several tails trying to come down out of that same cloud that was coming in from Fredericksburg, so it's no surprise that you ran into some pretty stiff winds there.

01:13:54.000 Are you listening to us in Fredericksburg?

01:13:56.000 No, no, I'm actually in San Marcos listening to you.

01:14:00.000 Yeah, no, I mean the police radios were saying a tornado hit Johnson City right as I was coming in to Johnson City.

01:14:08.000 And so I was definitely in a tornadic, or is that the right word?

01:14:13.000 Winds.

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 Tornadic vortex.

01:14:16.000 Yeah, it was.

01:14:18.000 Oh, I'm blessed to be alive.

01:14:19.000 Yeah, we're real glad you're still with us because I don't think this whole thing would be going the way it's going right now without your force of will.

01:14:28.000 Well, I'm just one person.

01:14:30.000 Well, you're a powerful person.

01:14:31.000 You have a powerful personality and it's steering a lot of people and giving them the courage to keep up the fight.

01:14:37.000 And, uh, I wanted to ask Richard one thing, uh, going back about seven, eight years ago, do you recall, uh, there was a big stink over National Guard, uh, F-16s, boasting these, uh, uh, passenger liners, and they said they were just, uh, goofing off and, uh, being kind of radical.

01:14:55.000 Well, here's my take on it.

01:14:57.000 I think way back then, seven or eight years ago, they were on to the idea of these airliners being used as, as missiles.

01:15:04.000 That had been in the news!

01:15:05.000 We knew that!

01:15:06.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:06.000 And what they were doing by flying close, of course, was they were looking in the window to see if there were passengers.

01:15:10.000 And if they looked in the windows and they didn't see passengers, they were going to knock those things out of the air.

01:15:14.000 And they were out of the D.C.

01:15:15.000 Guard.

01:15:16.000 National Guard Armory.

01:15:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:18.000 You'll find that most of the airport's pilots are hot dogs.

01:15:21.000 I mean, these guys, they're hot to go.

01:15:23.000 They really don't care.

01:15:25.000 But for them to tell me that they were going to shoot those airplanes down, that's a crock.

01:15:28.000 Right.

01:15:28.000 Well, then they wouldn't have been shadowing those planes years before 9-11 if it wasn't because they didn't think that there was something... Well, look, I have articles from 95, you know, CNN, Associated Press, saying, you know, plans to fly hijacked jets into World Trade Center, Pentagon, CIA headquarters, Capitol.

01:15:47.000 And then Bush said, we had never heard of such a plan.

01:15:50.000 No one had ever even dreamed of this.

01:15:52.000 Meanwhile, they're running a drill two years before, six months before, and the morning of the exact same thing happening that happened.

01:16:00.000 Thanks for the call, Bob.

01:16:01.000 And I just want to thank God that I am still alive from yesterday.

01:16:06.000 Any comments to what he was saying?

01:16:08.000 Can I just add one thing here?

01:16:09.000 Sure.

01:16:10.000 I spoke to Ralph Nader when he was here in Austin a couple of months ago.

01:16:14.000 And I actually threw the same thing I'm throwing at you right now.

01:16:17.000 I said, what do you think about this, this, this, and this?

01:16:20.000 And Ralph, and I kind of appreciate a lot of things he's tried to do in his life, but the man literally looked at me with blank eyes and said, I can't touch that.

01:16:27.000 And that was kind of frightening to me.

01:16:29.000 Yeah, because he said, I can't touch that.

01:16:31.000 I can't touch that.

01:16:33.000 Now, what does that mean, you can't touch that?

01:16:35.000 You've gone after GM, you've gone after all these other companies.

01:16:38.000 You can't go after the military for what they've done, or the government for the things they're perpetrating at this point?

01:16:43.000 That makes total sense to me.

01:16:43.000 Let me ask you a question, Richard.

01:16:45.000 You just go off the facts, the science, your expertise being a SAC air traffic controller monitor, but...

01:16:54.000 I mean, we have official government plans like Northwood's that say we're going to hijack jets, crash them, blame it on foreign enemies to mobilize the people behind war.

01:17:03.000 I mean, we have an official government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks.

01:17:07.000 How important is that to you?

01:17:08.000 Well, we've done it before.

01:17:09.000 I mean, historically speaking, we did Pearl Harbor.

01:17:12.000 We've done the Spanish-American War.

01:17:16.000 I mean, we've done it before to our own people.

01:17:18.000 It's not that we won't kill our own people to get ourselves involved in something that's going to get the elite paid.

01:17:24.000 That's what we're having to look at.

01:17:24.000 The elite don't care about us at all.

01:17:26.000 At the bottom, the people in the middle and the bottom, they really don't care.

01:17:30.000 It's all about the almighty dollar for these guys.

01:17:33.000 They don't even kill themselves, really.

01:17:35.000 They don't care. 1.00

01:17:36.000 They'll kill their mother for a dollar. 1.00

01:17:38.000 I agree with you. 1.00

01:17:39.000 Who's the call in Arizona?

01:17:41.000 Mike in Arizona, go ahead.

01:17:44.000 Yes, hi Alex.

01:17:45.000 Hello.

01:17:47.000 My understanding, a friend of mine, a retired pilot who flew all these planes that were involved, the very planes in fact, he said it's not coincidence that the 757 and 767, I think were the models involved, are specifically the models that were designed to be flown via remote control.

01:18:08.000 Do you have any knowledge of that?

01:18:10.000 I have read that on official industry websites, but go ahead Richard.

01:18:14.000 Same here.

01:18:16.000 They can't be flown remotely, and anybody thinks differently is fooling themselves.

01:18:22.000 Okay, good.

01:18:24.000 The other question is... I'll tell you what, stay there.

01:18:26.000 Mike, stay there.

01:18:27.000 We'll come back to you, then to Dan in Illinois.

01:18:30.000 That'll be it for our guests.

01:18:31.000 Then we've got another guest coming on.

01:18:34.000 By the way, everybody wanted this 7 million number in the prisons. 0.99

01:18:37.000 Well, another article today about it.

01:18:39.000 Okay, 7 million and they say 6.9.

01:18:42.000 I saw a Justice Department document a year ago that said 7 million.

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01:22:50.000 All right, Mike, in Arizona, you're on the air with our friend, the military air traffic controller from SAC, Richard Franklin.

01:23:07.000 Go ahead, Mike.

01:23:10.000 Yeah, my understanding is that these pilots are trained to punch in either a four or five digit code if they sense a hijacking is about to take place.

01:23:22.000 What do you think the chances are that none of the four crews involved could have managed to do that before being overtaken by guys with box cutters?

01:23:31.000 Well, the problem they have is, and again, that was the lie they also perpetrated, and you do realize that the radar trails would have been on the hard drive of the screens, can be gone back and have them looked at.

01:23:42.000 They can still be looked at right now.

01:23:44.000 The controller should have asked them to squawk ident, if he believed there was a problem.

01:23:50.000 I need you to squawk ident, in which case they would have put in the code at that time, which would have caused that airplane to flash as it went across the screen.

01:23:56.000 We should be able to see that at this time.

01:23:58.000 They should be able to show that to us right now on the hard drive.

01:24:01.000 So unless they erase the hard drive, that information should still be out there.

01:24:05.000 And yeah, they should have been, but if the hijackers knew to turn off the transponder, don't you think that the pilots assumed they were being hijacked, would have just reached down and turned on the code?

01:24:16.000 Also, Richard, a key point you brought up, and I had read this as well, that for five years they keep all those tapes, and if there's an incident, ten years, but magically five different systems that were involved, different installations, they just say they shredded those, and that's the end of the discussion.

01:24:34.000 Yeah, but they shredded them, but then you turn around and heard the conversations two weeks ago at the 9-11 Commission of the guys talking.

01:24:40.000 Just like they said that all the firefighter radios malfunctioned, and then it turned out that was a lie and they declared national security.

01:24:50.000 Go ahead.

01:24:51.000 Right, right.

01:24:52.000 And again, the same situation.

01:24:53.000 You heard no air traffic control clutter on the guys talking on an air traffic control frequency.

01:24:58.000 So there were no controllers talking to anyone else in the sky at that time.

01:25:01.000 So therefore, those tapes were fabricated, but the tapes still exist, I'm guaranteeing you.

01:25:05.000 But, the radar trails are on the hard drive.

01:25:08.000 They're not on tape.

01:25:10.000 That's on a hard drive, and you can still go back and retrieve those.

01:25:11.000 Now, Richard, explain that to us, that again, on this channel, you would have heard lots of voices.

01:25:17.000 Absolutely.

01:25:17.000 You're talking to several airplanes at one time.

01:25:19.000 You're giving control instructions to everybody on the same frequency.

01:25:24.000 So everybody hears everything else that's going on with somebody else.

01:25:26.000 So you don't duplicate your information, or somebody else can hear where this guy is, so he doesn't run into him.

01:25:31.000 You would have heard this guy saying, look, I've got an aircraft out here that's not under my control.

01:25:35.000 I believe there's a problem with him.

01:25:38.000 Let me give you a vector away from his area to make sure he doesn't get a run into.

01:25:41.000 That conversation would have been heard.

01:25:43.000 But at the same time, you should have seen aircraft going across on the hard drive, on the radar hard drive, to see the guy sitting there flashing that he's already been hijacked.

01:25:52.000 And at one point, I remember what the code was, but I don't want to go off into it right now.

01:25:56.000 Again, national security.

01:25:57.000 They might be at my front door any moment now behind this, but that aircraft should have been flashed and hijacked.

01:26:02.000 They should have asked him to squawk his ID code.

01:26:08.000 Okay, Mike, does that answer your question?

01:26:10.000 That sure does.

01:26:11.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

01:26:12.000 Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.

01:26:14.000 Dan, go ahead.

01:26:16.000 Yeah, Richard, I can tell you're an absolute expert at what you do.

01:26:18.000 There's no question about it.

01:26:20.000 Your background.

01:26:23.000 Have you read the propaganda in the NORAD website about this?

01:26:29.000 No, I haven't.

01:26:30.000 Sorry.

01:26:30.000 It says, until the morning of September 11, 2001, NORAD's focus was almost exclusively on threats coming toward the Canadian and American borders, not terrorism in our domestic airspace.

01:26:42.000 Because of that day, now NORAD is a terrorist type of thing.

01:26:49.000 But again, that's after the fact.

01:26:51.000 It really has nothing to do with this specific incident.

01:26:54.000 Although you can focus on one thing, you still don't break for procedure.

01:26:58.000 And we went through these procedures, and let me tell you something.

01:27:00.000 My ex-wife and I haven't agreed on anything until we got to this one point.

01:27:04.000 Therefore, I know I'm right.

01:27:05.000 All the stars are aligned on this one.

01:27:07.000 She said the exact same thing, and she works for an airline right now, and said something at a meeting, and they told her to shut up. 0.97

01:27:13.000 At that meeting, she's been since demoted.

01:27:16.000 Alright, I don't know if that has anything to do with this or not, but she's no longer in the position she was in.

01:27:20.000 She asked some questions about why they weren't being dispatched from the closest airbase.

01:27:25.000 We have standard procedures.

01:27:26.000 We don't ask questions.

01:27:28.000 We just react to the situation.

01:27:30.000 You don't have time to do that.

01:27:31.000 You can't be emotional about your job as an air traffic controller.

01:27:34.000 This all flew against the policy since 1958, and when your Cessna goes off course, they launch F-16s, but four planes are going wild for two hours and nothing happens.

01:27:45.000 Absolutely.

01:27:45.000 That's exactly what I'm saying.

01:27:47.000 We wouldn't go through it.

01:27:48.000 We don't ask questions.

01:27:49.000 We don't call a supervisor and say, the guy's off course right there, what should I do?

01:27:52.000 We just do and then after the fact we'll talk about it.

01:27:55.000 Like an alarm goes off.

01:27:57.000 Anyway, what I was going to say too was that that's the biggest, I think the biggest evil thing that's come out of this 9-11 Commission is that the United States needs prior knowledge It can never be surprised.

01:28:10.000 In other words, there's no defense against a surprise attack.

01:28:13.000 I think that's the most evil thing that came out of it.

01:28:15.000 I hear you.

01:28:16.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:17.000 Richard Franklin, I want to get you back on, maybe even later this week, because this is a big issue.

01:28:21.000 We need to flesh it all out.

01:28:23.000 And I appreciate your courage, and I appreciate you coming on to talk about just this ridiculous cover-up we've been witnessing.

01:28:30.000 I appreciate you, Alex.

01:28:30.000 I appreciate that a lot.

01:28:32.000 God bless you, my friend.

01:28:34.000 Folks, their official story is completely impossible.

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01:28:38.000 We'll be right back, Stay with us.

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01:31:50.000 Don't forget the websites, folks.

01:32:04.000 There's Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:32:12.000 And the military-industrial complex is trying to turn the planet into a giant prison.

01:32:19.000 And the private individuals in the Carlyle Group and other institutions say in their own policy reports that they're going to use the threat of terrorism to take all of our freedoms and feed the economy through their greedy hands.

01:32:32.000 And in Boston, they have thousands of police, military, people aiming live-fire machine guns at them, military helicopters, and I'm looking at photos and video clips here in front of me, of protest cages, small cages, underneath, understand, under, and this is on InfoWars.com right now,

01:32:57.000 Underneath the train station, where no one is at, where people are put in cages to protest.

01:33:03.000 Where no one can see them.

01:33:04.000 Now the news will show you barbed wire fences, tall, 30 foot, 25 foot fences with barbed wire facing in so people can't climb over.

01:33:13.000 That's around the center where they're having the convention.

01:33:18.000 But people that want to protest, they're behind that in little cages they put them in.

01:33:26.000 Now, this is what America has turned into?

01:33:29.000 We're not America anymore if we don't have our God-given freedoms, our civil liberties, whatever you want to call it, to go out and protest.

01:33:39.000 And I've had the people on this show, conservatives, liberals, who go out with a sign saying, no blood for oil, and there's 500 Bush supporters, On a street, and the police come over and arrest them, and they're charged with felonies and are convicted, and saying, no one's allowed to disagree, you have to go a mile away to the inside of a stadium, where no media is allowed, by the way, to stand there with your sign.

01:34:00.000 It's a joke!

01:34:03.000 And on top of this, last year, on the eve of a war, I had the lawyer, a city attorney on, no criminal record, 50-something years old, bought a shirt at the mall that said, Peace on Earth.

01:34:17.000 They thought that was an evil t-shirt, wouldn't matter what it was, and arrested him.

01:34:25.000 Arrested him.

01:34:28.000 So, and sickos like Michael Wiener, known as Mr. Savage, get up on the air every day and say, put anybody who disagrees with the government in a camp.

01:34:39.000 Folks, I'm not kidding.

01:34:40.000 In a camp, we had Senator Menace in Oregon.

01:34:43.000 This is posted on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

01:34:46.000 Introduced a law, almost passed, that said if you block traffic in a protest, you've got life in prison.

01:34:53.000 This is what they're trying to do.

01:34:55.000 I mean, I can't believe how bad it is.

01:34:57.000 I appreciate her holding while I introduce this.

01:35:00.000 She is Carol Rose, Executive Director of the ACLU of Massachusetts.

01:35:05.000 And she's joining us now from Boston.

01:35:07.000 Carol, good to have you on with us.

01:35:09.000 It's good to be here, Alex.

01:35:10.000 Thanks for the invitation.

01:35:11.000 Well, I'm really concerned about what's happening, and mainly these are conservative protesters who aren't allowed to protest, but it's going to be the Democrats who can't protest in New York.

01:35:23.000 It has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorists.

01:35:26.000 What is going on?

01:35:27.000 Well, absolutely.

01:35:28.000 It has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorists.

01:35:30.000 I mean, everybody agrees that we want to have sufficient security to prevent another terrorism attack.

01:35:35.000 But the kind of things that are taking place here in Boston for the Democratic Convention aren't really aimed at that.

01:35:41.000 What they're worried about is the fact that they don't want to have a lot of the message being heard by the delegates.

01:35:47.000 They're really trying to isolate the delegates from the other people who, you know, want to have their protest voices being heard.

01:35:53.000 So it's really Really dramatic, they put up what the judge, when we challenged the so-called free speech zone, the judge himself called it an internment camp.

01:36:04.000 There's razor wire all the way around, there's netting above, there's two rows of fences around the area, and there's railroad tracks overhanging the whole thing.

01:36:14.000 So it really does have the feel of an internment camp, which is what the federal judge himself described it as.

01:36:19.000 Now, where can we find his comments?

01:36:21.000 I'd like to link to those.

01:36:22.000 Are those going to be on the ACLU Mass website?

01:36:26.000 Yep, it's ACLU-MASS.org, and we've put it up there, and he calls it an affront to the spirit of the First Amendment.

01:36:34.000 Do me a favor, say that slowly for listeners.

01:36:36.000 Absolutely.

01:36:37.000 It's www.aclu-mass.org.

01:36:44.000 Okay, now I want to commend the ACLU because in the past, if it was conservative groups having their rights violated, sometimes state chapters wouldn't help.

01:36:53.000 I did see a little bit of that.

01:36:55.000 But I have to tell you, these are mainly conservative protesters and a lot of what you'd call liberals and libertarians that are protesting.

01:37:04.000 For those that haven't seen the video, and the news isn't showing half of this, I mean, this is 25, 30 foot fences, then underneath a train station where no one can even see you, they then lock you inside cages.

01:37:16.000 I mean, and then the judge calls it an internment camp.

01:37:20.000 Right, and nonetheless he upholds it.

01:37:22.000 I mean, this is going on at the same time as we're having just an extraordinary police presence.

01:37:27.000 The National Guard has been called out.

01:37:29.000 They're searching people who ride the trains, the subway systems.

01:37:32.000 searching their bags here without probable cause.

01:37:35.000 I mean, it's just really been an extraordinary and very last minute.

01:37:39.000 And when we attempted to challenge this, because the Boston Police Department had told the ACLU that there would not be any kind of a tent or a zone set up, we were surprised when, well actually not that surprised when the last minute the Secret Service filed a motion to intervene into the case and to join in.

01:37:55.000 So really this is just training us how to be slaves?

01:37:59.000 Well, that's right.

01:38:00.000 And you know, one of the real concerns that I have is that, you know, down by the Convention Center, you know, there are really the accommodations being made for the media.

01:38:09.000 There's accommodations being made for the delegates and all the party bigwigs.

01:38:13.000 But there isn't an accommodation being made for the average citizen, you know, a resident of this country who wants to have his or her voice heard.

01:38:20.000 And one of my surprising things was I was out at the historic town of Lexington over the weekend and asked to give some remarks because some of the delegates were going to be coming out To Lexington, which is a very bucolic and sort of beautiful New England town.

01:38:33.000 And they put up a free speech pen there!

01:38:35.000 Thinking that this is the new way to do it.

01:38:37.000 And there was no evidence or suggestion that there was any kind of a security threat.

01:38:41.000 And basically this says, anybody protesting is really a criminal.

01:38:44.000 We're going to go ahead and put them in their own special little ghettos. 0.99

01:38:49.000 This is the type of stuff they did in Nazi Germany. 0.66

01:38:51.000 Well, that's right.

01:38:52.000 And the concern that I want everybody to understand is, of course, all of the United States is a free speech zone.

01:38:57.000 That's what this country is built on.

01:38:59.000 And this is meant to be a chilling effect, is it not?

01:39:01.000 Well, you know, we don't... They say they're doing it You know, for security purposes, but it doesn't seem to serve any security purposes.

01:39:08.000 Certainly putting people into a small area creates a safety hazard, security hazard, if anything.

01:39:15.000 And we've gotten calls from security experts and public health experts expressing concern about the lack of safety in these very small and enclosed spaces.

01:39:24.000 So I don't think that there's really a legitimate security argument here.

01:39:27.000 It just seems to be almost Nothing else, maybe a PR move to say, look, we're doing something.

01:39:32.000 Can you explain to me, I'm looking at photos here, so you're behind a big fence and they have a little cage they have you get in.

01:39:39.000 This is insane!

01:39:41.000 Well, it certainly goes against the spirit of the First Amendment, and I would suggest it should be, the judge should have ruled that it went against the letter of the law as well. 0.77

01:39:47.000 Well, they're acting like somebody who wants to protest is a fire-breathing lunatic.

01:39:52.000 Well, right, and you know, a lot of these people are, you know, Little old ladies who want to carry their signs and people who want to protest. 0.96

01:40:00.000 And then there are people who want to have counter speech.

01:40:03.000 But we've always said in our society that if there are people who want to break the law, we have ways to prosecute them for breaking the law.

01:40:09.000 You don't, in anticipation that a few people may break the law, suddenly decide you're going to silence everyone.

01:40:16.000 Well, yeah, you're guilty until proven innocent.

01:40:17.000 I mean, in Russia and China and Nazi Germany, they said no protest allowed because that might undermine the state.

01:40:25.000 And you're all guilty until proven innocent.

01:40:27.000 And...

01:40:28.000 I mean, Carol, are you familiar that in Seattle, the government actually hired provocateurs to kind of set this precedent of, oh, look, things get out of control, and then how they infiltrate with police into these different groups who they've caught in Miami and D.C.

01:40:43.000 actually causing problems?

01:40:45.000 Right here, going in and instigating.

01:40:46.000 Well, you know, it's interesting here.

01:40:47.000 We had a, one of the cases that the ACLU won, there was another group that wanted to have a peaceful protest right in front of the Fleet Center on Sunday, the day before the convention.

01:40:56.000 And the city had ruled that they weren't allowed to, even though it was, you know, down the street on a public street on the day before the convention even started.

01:41:05.000 And we went in and we said no, you know, we said to the court that they should have a right to march down in front of the Fleet Center.

01:41:10.000 And in fact, they were granted that.

01:41:12.000 We won that case.

01:41:13.000 And they had their peaceful march yesterday on Sunday.

01:41:16.000 And nothing went wrong.

01:41:17.000 There were a bunch of people from a wide range of political views out there, about a couple thousand people marching down in front of the convention center, and nothing went wrong.

01:41:25.000 And that's what this country is about.

01:41:27.000 People should have a right to express themselves peacefully.

01:41:29.000 Well, I agree with you, Carol.

01:41:31.000 But, Carol, they're not going to stop here.

01:41:34.000 Okay, I mean, take Georgia.

01:41:36.000 They announced that half the state, and this was the governor, was under a civil emergency or martial law and would not allow protest in whole counties until people like yourself sued.

01:41:47.000 Then they said, okay, we'll allow you to protest in little cages again.

01:41:51.000 Right.

01:41:51.000 Well, I think it's incumbent upon all of us to continue not only to work in the courts, which is certainly where the ACLU does a lot of its work, but also to work in our state legislatures, to work with our police departments, And in Congress, and to continue to push and to say, this is not acceptable to us.

01:42:06.000 This is anti-American to put people into cages.

01:42:09.000 America itself is a free speech zone.

01:42:11.000 Certainly, relative to the rest of the world.

01:42:13.000 And to give that up, we're giving up a fundamental American value.

01:42:16.000 Well, yeah, America isn't even worth defending if we don't have this.

01:42:19.000 Plus, it doesn't make us safe.

01:42:20.000 It's a joke.

01:42:21.000 But, Carol, I've got two questions for you.

01:42:22.000 You're obviously an expert on this.

01:42:24.000 Again, you're the Executive Director of the ACLU of Massachusetts.

01:42:27.000 We're honored to have you.

01:42:28.000 Website, aclu-mass.org.

01:42:31.000 We'll put a link to that on my website, InfoWars.com.

01:42:34.000 But I'm trying to understand something here.

01:42:39.000 In DC, they've done stuff like this.

01:42:42.000 In Miami, they've done stuff like this.

01:42:43.000 They've attacked innocent people.

01:42:45.000 And then now, even in New York, two weeks ago, the police commissioner said, we may not allow police to protest.

01:42:53.000 You may lose your job if you protest.

01:42:55.000 We've had dozens of colleges say, if you speak one word during commencements or during graduation, you are going to have your diploma taken.

01:43:06.000 I mean, this is a Scary development.

01:43:09.000 Can you speak to that?

01:43:10.000 Well, yeah.

01:43:11.000 I mean, I think there's a mood across the entire country which is that somehow dissent is unpatriotic.

01:43:16.000 But of course, you know, we know here in Massachusetts where the, you know, the first Patriots stood up and spoke out against the oppression of the British crown.

01:43:24.000 The dissent is actually a deep American tradition.

01:43:27.000 And the dissent is actually a patriotic thing.

01:43:29.000 That we have not only a right but a duty to criticize our government when we don't agree with what the government is doing.

01:43:35.000 And the ACLU is here about defending the right to dissent, regardless of the political view you take.

01:43:40.000 What we want is the right to dissent itself.

01:43:40.000 I don't care.

01:43:43.000 And when that fundamental right to exercise your political views, whatever they may be, is threatened, then we're really seeing a sea change in what this country is all about.

01:43:53.000 And I feel very strongly that right now at this time when we are under assault with fear in the country of domestic terrorism, that this is the time to rededicate ourselves to the American values, the things that make us unique in this country.

01:44:08.000 And certainly freedom of speech, freedom of association, things like that are so fundamental to who we are as a people and as a country.

01:44:15.000 That these are the values that we need to fight for, perhaps above all others.

01:44:18.000 Well, Carol Rose, you're there in Boston right now, and from the news images, troops aiming heavy machine guns with loaded live rounds at the population, checkpoints everywhere, police in black ski masks and black helmets, armored vehicles driving around, Homeland Security, helicopters... On a helicopter overhead of my office, and I apologize if there's a lot of background noise, that's a military helicopter right outside my office.

01:44:46.000 Well, so describe the atmosphere.

01:44:48.000 I mean, what are the citizens of Boston saying about all this?

01:44:53.000 Well, there are a lot of people who have just left town.

01:44:56.000 Their free speech rights have been killed.

01:44:58.000 They're not even coming into Boston.

01:45:00.000 So this morning when I came into town, for example, there was very little traffic.

01:45:04.000 And the parking lots are empty because people are just staying away.

01:45:06.000 But the people who do want to exercise their political speech rights, they're nervous.

01:45:11.000 They're courageous in going forward and trying to do so, but I think it's really put a damper on the whole political process when we end up with a convention, whether here or in New York, where we have something created for TV, but not really reflecting the American people.

01:45:26.000 This does something else.

01:45:28.000 I agree with you.

01:45:31.000 takes the focus off the message of the convention itself and focuses it into this giant police state uh... advertisement desensitization campaign as you said than even smaller towns outside boston mimic the police state so can you talk about both those points?

01:45:48.000 I think it's important that we realize that everybody says well this is special this is just for a national security special event but I mean, two of the things that aren't going to be permanent.

01:45:48.000 Well, right.

01:45:58.000 Well, one of the things is that when other towns and cities start to mimic this thing, every time there's any kind of a public parade or a public free speech exercise, that suddenly you have to put a cage around it.

01:46:07.000 That's a terribly chilling thing.

01:46:09.000 I think the other thing we have concerns here in Boston is they've brought in thousands of new surveillance cameras to be able to track people's movements literally as they move across the city.

01:46:19.000 And one of our concerns is that they've said that's going to be permanent.

01:46:22.000 That once they've set the infrastructure into place...

01:46:24.000 They're not going to dismantle it once the convention is over.

01:46:27.000 And it's not for terrorists, it's for the general public.

01:46:29.000 Homeland Security, a billion-two is going to be spent just in New York.

01:46:33.000 Now Homeland Security says we fight terror and crime, saying in Section 802 of the Patriot Act that all crime is terror.

01:46:40.000 That's right, and we know that much of the executive branch authority, the police power that's been taken out of the Patriot Act, in fact hasn't been used in terrorism cases, but more often than not it's being used in just typical criminal cases.

01:46:52.000 And you know, the good law enforcement people, and there are many of them out there, they know that the Constitution protects them just as it protects the regular citizens.

01:47:02.000 Well, let me talk about that.

01:47:04.000 What about the police commissioner?

01:47:05.000 Did you see that, where he told the police they might lose their jobs if they protest?

01:47:10.000 Well, that had a lot to do with the union battle going on here in Boston.

01:47:14.000 There was that kind of an issue, because the police union was going to strike.

01:47:17.000 And I didn't see that here, and I'm not sure if it happened elsewhere, but here I think The bigger issue is that the Boston Police Department has a history of actually being very progressive and very effective at community-based policing.

01:47:30.000 I'd hate to see them go in a different direction because suddenly they've gotten a different lesson out of the Democratic Convention.

01:47:37.000 Have you had any issues where, like in Miami, where they just savagely beat up innocent people?

01:47:42.000 So far, we haven't.

01:47:43.000 We're on our first day of the convention.

01:47:45.000 And as far as we have heard to date, we have not had any incidents of police brutality and we hope to keep it that way.

01:47:51.000 Now, CIA officers, FBI officers have been on record in mainstream publications for two years saying they've been ordered to issue fake terror alerts to distract away from the administration's activities.

01:48:03.000 They're clearly doing that here again.

01:48:05.000 This cynical action of telling the media they're the target is to now get the media embedded with the militarized police and the military.

01:48:13.000 Do you agree with that?

01:48:15.000 You know, it's hard for me to state whether or not that's actually happening, but we certainly recently brought a suit saying that merely because there's a high terrorism alert, you don't suddenly have a right to search people without probable cause.

01:48:26.000 I mean, one of our concerns is these new alert levels will be used to actually say, during an orange alert, let's say, you don't have any Fourth Amendment right to be free from an unreasonable search.

01:48:34.000 Oh, I've got to stop you!

01:48:35.000 I've got to stop you!

01:48:36.000 The New Jersey State FEMA coordinator head, Sid Casperson, said last year in the Net News Service, that under a red alert, your rights are stripped.

01:48:46.000 That's a quote.

01:48:47.000 You will be considered an enemy combatant if you leave your home.

01:48:50.000 Wow, that's really extraordinary and I certainly hope that would be, you know, knocked down by the courts.

01:48:56.000 I mean, that's the kind of thing that we simply can't allow to happen.

01:48:58.000 We had a very similar case here in Massachusetts where somebody tried to do that during a heightened alert.

01:49:04.000 They didn't yet call it an orange alert.

01:49:06.000 And we've recently had that struck down by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.

01:49:09.000 So we're going to have to work in the courts, but it's not enough.

01:49:12.000 I think the average American citizens have to educate themselves about what's going on and themselves take action.

01:49:17.000 I will tell you, You know, people in Congress listen when their constituents call them.

01:49:21.000 And sometimes they listen when the ACLU calls, and sometimes they listen when the courts call, but they always listen when their constituents call.

01:49:28.000 So it's really incumbent upon every American, every resident of this country, to take action and let their voice be heard.

01:49:35.000 Okay, Carol, we got a break.

01:49:36.000 I want to thank you for coming on.

01:49:38.000 Carol Rose, Executive Director of the ACLU in Mass.

01:49:41.000 Thanks for coming on and take care, and I hope to get you back on as this develops.

01:49:44.000 I always like to listen to you.

01:49:44.000 I appreciate it.

01:49:45.000 Take care.

01:49:45.000 Thank you.

01:49:46.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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01:55:32.000 Children to get jabs against drug addiction.

01:55:35.000 See, now we're going to change your brain chemistry so you won't be angry.

01:55:39.000 So they have those new vaccines to psychologically brain damage you.

01:55:43.000 Well, this new one is children to get jabs against drug addiction.

01:55:46.000 Ministers consider vaccination scheme.

01:55:49.000 Heroin, cocaine, and nicotine targeted.

01:55:52.000 A radical scheme to vaccinate children against future drug addiction.

01:55:55.000 It changes the brain chemistry, folks.

01:55:57.000 It's being considered by ministers, The Independent said on Sunday.

01:56:01.000 Under the plans, doctors would immunize children at risk for becoming smokers.

01:56:05.000 Oh, you're poor, we're going to make you take it because you'll probably end up on it.

01:56:08.000 Or drug users with an injection.

01:56:12.000 Again, people who may become, who may use drugs when they're little babies.

01:56:16.000 The scheme could operate on a similar way to the current nationwide measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination program.

01:56:21.000 Childhood immunization would provide adults with protection from euphoria that is experienced by users.

01:56:28.000 Now, they then go on to admit this drug shuts down your capability to have endorphins.

01:56:35.000 It actually goes in and binds with the receptors.

01:56:39.000 Folks, this is a lobotomy! 0.73

01:56:44.000 Drugs make you feel euphoric because you naturally have those feelings.

01:56:48.000 When you do get on a test, when you have your first child, when you get a raise, when you accept the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, you get euphoria.

01:57:00.000 When you get a date with that good-looking woman when you're in college who's really smart and cool and you want to go out with her, that's what it's all about.

01:57:07.000 I'm high all the time on endorphins.

01:57:09.000 I don't need drugs.

01:57:11.000 And it goes on to say That the pharmacological system will change the brain chemistry.

01:57:19.000 Folks, this is so incredible.

01:57:23.000 Right out in the open.

01:57:25.000 And they're going to make them take it!

01:57:26.000 And they're going to make you take it.

01:57:28.000 After you have this shot, you'll be one of us.

01:57:32.000 Oh, but once you're depressed, we'll have some Prozac for you.

01:57:34.000 It operates on another level of the brain.

01:57:37.000 Folks, this is so incredible.

01:57:39.000 Alright, third hour coming up.

01:57:40.000 Stay with me.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 My friends, I am reading directly from the London Independent.

01:58:10.000 The government says they are going to pass the law.

01:58:13.000 They are going to make everyone in the country take a multi-vaccine that blocks cocaine, heroin, and nicotine.

01:58:20.000 Their excuse is, well, it costs too much money for us to treat it.

01:58:24.000 And listen, it says, experts at Scripps Research Institute in San Diego, California have developed a super virus, harmless to humans, which produces proteins that can block or reduce the effects of cocaine.

01:58:35.000 And they give you a virus that goes in and brain damages you, that's what it does, goes in and attacks certain neuroreceptors in your brain.

01:58:43.000 They're going to inject us with viruses that eat parts of our brain.

01:58:50.000 And they got the police in black ski masks, they're building the prisons. 0.95

01:58:54.000 Well, you're insane if you don't take it.

01:58:56.000 You'll feel much better once you get this injection.

01:58:58.000 And for decades, we've caught the UN giving women vaccines, a tetanus shot with a hormone added to it, that makes the body attack that hormone so the woman can't ever have a baby. 0.52

01:59:11.000 We've caught them adding it to vaccines that brain damages children, by design.

01:59:15.000 Not the mercury, a hormone that attacks the cerebral cortex in development.

01:59:20.000 They're brain-damaging the mass of us to be better slaves. 0.75

01:59:23.000 Folks, you couldn't make this stuff up.

01:59:25.000 Actually, there's a new movie coming out called Code 63 or 4 with some huge actors where they give you these viruses to control your mind.

01:59:34.000 It's so good.

01:59:36.000 Soon you'll be one of us.

01:59:37.000 Soon you'll take the injection.

01:59:38.000 I mean, who could come up with stuff like this?

01:59:41.000 And here it is!

01:59:42.000 England's gonna make you take it!

01:59:44.000 And then they're saying, oh, the U.S.

01:59:45.000 is thinking about doing it.

01:59:46.000 Oh, you're sorry, your child can't go to school.

01:59:48.000 Oh, we're going to have CPS take your children. 1.00

01:59:50.000 They won't take the vaccine that has a virus go into the brain and block proteins.

01:59:57.000 Oh, that's so good for you.

02:00:00.000 Oh, it's so good.

02:00:01.000 Ben in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:00:03.000 Welcome.

02:00:05.000 Hey, Alex.

02:00:07.000 Another little piece of Media coverage.

02:00:10.000 Have you heard about the Coca-Cola's new marketing scheme?

02:00:13.000 Yeah, they got GPS, and when you win, the black helicopters come and bring you in the vehicle.

02:00:18.000 Yeah, I hadn't heard you mention that.

02:00:20.000 That's a little creepy.

02:00:22.000 A couple of years back, I had sent you a Fox News piece where they talk about the black boxes in the cars.

02:00:28.000 Which track and trace everything you do, yes.

02:00:30.000 Yeah, you remember that?

02:00:31.000 Civil Libertarians, get your hearts out.

02:00:33.000 The kids' safety comes first.

02:00:36.000 They're doing a new one on Fox right now.

02:00:38.000 They're really pushing this RFID tag thing and I just wanted to tell the listeners that it might not be too far off in the future.

02:00:49.000 They push it and announce that it's coming after it's already in a lot of products.

02:00:54.000 It's in thousands of products.

02:00:55.000 It's going to go in all products to replace the barcode.

02:00:58.000 It's already there.

02:00:59.000 It's going to be in your passport, your driver's license, in all the products you buy because Walmart and the Defense Department have told their distributors anybody that sells to them has to have this.

02:01:09.000 Hey, one question.

02:01:11.000 As far as Code Red goes, do you think they will ever put Code Red... Do you think we'll ever go to Code Red without an actual terror attack?

02:01:20.000 No, I think we'll go to Code Red after they carry out terror attacks.

02:01:23.000 Right, right.

02:01:24.000 Alright, well I'll get off.

02:01:25.000 Thanks, man.

02:01:25.000 Thank you.

02:01:26.000 And again, they've publicly said it is martial law.

02:01:29.000 It is martial law, and by the way, we're going to forcibly inoculate you under martial law, and we have vaccines that change your brain chemistry, where you cannot become angry, where you will serve us.

02:01:39.000 They are openly talking about a vaccine that, where, oh, you're prone to anger, your genetics shows, we're going to give you a shot, no more anger.

02:01:47.000 Brain damaging you!

02:01:50.000 They've already been doing it!

02:01:52.000 You wonder why some people just can't get it, can't, are so, so zombie-like.

02:01:55.000 Folks, it's been in the vaccines for a long time.

02:01:58.000 You understand?

02:02:00.000 You understand, folks?

02:02:02.000 You understand?

02:02:03.000 Folks, this is a nightmare science fiction movie.

02:02:05.000 You're living in it.

02:02:07.000 It's really happening.

02:02:08.000 And I won't be able to talk about this here in Austin on TV soon, because they're going to shut down the TV station.

02:02:13.000 And they're shutting down talk radio all over the place.

02:02:16.000 And they're just taking our free speech, and they're going to hurt us in. 0.97

02:02:18.000 They're going to have brainwashed, brain-damaged cops. 0.93

02:02:21.000 It'll come round us up and put us in camps.

02:02:23.000 And at that point, when they come with their injectors, what do you do?

02:02:26.000 You've got to stand up against it.

02:02:27.000 Sounds nuts, folks, but I just read the London Independent.

02:02:31.000 Mind control vaccines.

02:02:33.000 The Manchurian candidate for real.

02:02:36.000 We're gonna go to Boston when we get back.

02:02:38.000 Talk to Tom Wallace.

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02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:08.000 Alright, folks.

02:06:10.000 8 minutes and 27 seconds into this third hour.

02:06:15.000 To boil it down, I read the federal plans years ago on air.

02:06:20.000 Under the name of fighting terrorism and for security, and with the hired anarchists they hired to go out and provocateur, and we have this on video, police admitting this, they are going to shut down protests in America, ban protests, and if you insist, they're going to put you in a cage half a mile, a mile away, inside a building.

02:06:38.000 And in Boston, Mass., there are fences with huge metal girders with protest zones underneath the train station where no one can see you.

02:06:49.000 They have helicopters, troops with machine guns, heavy machine guns, train on the population, armored vehicles.

02:06:56.000 This is the new America. 0.51

02:06:58.000 Searching people without warrants, randomly checkpoints all over the city.

02:07:03.000 And joining us is Tom Wallace with the Boston Committee for Palestinian Rights.

02:07:11.000 And Mr. Wallace, what is your position with this organization?

02:07:19.000 Their media work.

02:07:21.000 So you're running the website?

02:07:23.000 Well, not necessarily running the website.

02:07:25.000 The website is just pretty basic.

02:07:28.000 Is that CPR4Democracy.com?

02:07:32.000 No, this is BCPR.org.

02:07:36.000 Alright, because some of the photos of the cages and stuff are at CPR4Democracy.com.

02:07:40.000 Right, those are the ones I forwarded to you earlier.

02:07:43.000 That came from someplace else and I forwarded them Okay, well those are on InfoWars.com right now.

02:07:50.000 Can you describe the atmosphere right now in Boston?

02:07:57.000 I think that you did a pretty good job of it, actually.

02:08:00.000 As I was driving around the city last night, there are basically police on every corner.

02:08:05.000 The MBTA police, as you have pointed out, are randomly searching people on the T.

02:08:12.000 There are cameras on many buildings.

02:08:15.000 You don't even know how many, but several news stations this morning were doing programs on the security, and basically there are just cameras everywhere.

02:08:25.000 And of course, those are going to stay there after the convention.

02:08:28.000 Absolutely.

02:08:29.000 They didn't spend millions of dollars to put them up just to take them down.

02:08:33.000 They provide them with all kinds of new tools that, you know, no one ever dreamed that they would have This kind of capability.

02:08:44.000 So, I mean, it's really, everybody is just stunned by it.

02:08:47.000 I heard an interview with former Governor Michael Dukakis last night, who was also the former Democratic nominee, I think 1988.

02:08:57.000 And he just, he was basically calling all of this absolute insanity.

02:09:04.000 It really is insane, what this looks like.

02:09:08.000 But the protest pen that you're talking about, What had been worked out with the city ahead of time, and basically what they wanted to do was provide a free protest area that would have access to the delegates.

02:09:24.000 So the delegates could see you, and you could see the delegates.

02:09:27.000 They could hear you.

02:09:29.000 And it would actually make a safe environment for everyone.

02:09:34.000 The limitations following 9-11, it seems like a reasonable thing to do, so everyone kind of went, well, okay.

02:09:39.000 Oh yeah, because protesters are evil, Al-Qaeda and... Well, yeah, as if someone is going to impose, as if someone is going to pose as a protester, if they're going to do something.

02:09:50.000 That seems insane to me.

02:09:52.000 Well, we're all guilty until proven innocent, and we really know who's behind 9-11.

02:09:56.000 But the point here is, now you guys are going to be walled off in these cages, and... Right.

02:10:03.000 So they're built, what they've turned these into are, what you can't see, if you have to look really closely at the photograph, to notice that on top of the, so you have the jersey barricade at the bottom, with a fence on top of that, and then the razor wire that is up overhead.

02:10:18.000 And then there's this netting, and you have to look closely at the photograph to see it, you're actually, there's a net overhead, that covers from the girder down to that fence, so that you are completely netted in.

02:10:31.000 And it really is, A cage.

02:10:34.000 Now, by the way, all over the country from Portland to you name it, they block off certain streets, then the police won't let people evacuate and attack the peaceful protesters.

02:10:44.000 Were you familiar with that, sir?

02:10:46.000 No, but I think that a lot of people are afraid to go into this tent for that reason.

02:10:52.000 Yeah, we're going to put you in the snow way out, no way in.

02:10:55.000 We're going to lock you up in a huge cage with razor wire.

02:10:58.000 Now, the federal judge says it's going to stay, but he also admits and calls it an internment camp.

02:11:04.000 Exactly.

02:11:04.000 I think his original quote said, well, we won't go there.

02:11:08.000 He calls it an internment camp.

02:11:10.000 And because that's what it looks like.

02:11:12.000 I mean, we're calling it Gulag, Palestine. 0.93

02:11:17.000 Because it also just looks like that.

02:11:19.000 The only reason, I think most groups, there's no one else going into that town except us.

02:11:23.000 The only reason that we're going in is because the US, I mean the city, couldn't have provided a better platform for a protest against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

02:11:36.000 Because this is what they're doing in the West Bank and Gaza, is they're building these cages, they're turning Palestinian villages and towns into cages.

02:11:44.000 So, and to prison.

02:11:45.000 So, it's a personal step for us.

02:11:47.000 Well, really, kind of like the Nazis did with Jewish ghettos. 0.96

02:11:51.000 Well, I do refer to it as ghettos, absolutely. 1.00

02:11:55.000 They are ghettos. 1.00

02:11:59.000 In the city of Kalkylia, of 40,000 people, there's only one way in and out, and that city is controlled by a gate that Israeli soldiers control, and if they feel like Letting anyone in or out of the entire city, they do, and if they don't, they don't.

02:12:15.000 But isn't that freedom?

02:12:16.000 I mean, we're going to have that here if they admit.

02:12:20.000 I have New Jersey newspapers, UPI, saying that Israel's going to be allowed to kill Americans whenever they want, no judge, no jury, and that they're advising cities how to set things up like this.

02:12:31.000 I mean, isn't that going to be good?

02:12:33.000 Well, Israel has killed an American, as they felt like it. 0.96

02:12:37.000 Her name was Rachel Corey.

02:12:38.000 Yeah, running over with a bulldozer and laughing about it.

02:12:40.000 Exactly.

02:12:42.000 And, you know, she's not the first.

02:12:46.000 She's not going to be the last.

02:12:48.000 But, have we... Yeah, I guess that's what... We're taking lessons from the Israelis in Iraq, so I guess we're going to start taking lessons Have you seen the new Amir Graeb photos where they've got Israeli tattoos, the torturers? 0.99

02:13:03.000 Yeah, I saw that.

02:13:05.000 It didn't shock or surprise me.

02:13:07.000 I think that shocked and surprised other people.

02:13:10.000 But I wasn't particularly surprised by it.

02:13:12.000 And slowly but surely, people are starting to admit that, you know, the Israeli pressure was behind a lot of the invasion of Iraq.

02:13:23.000 Look, who benefited from that?

02:13:25.000 Well, the oil companies and the weapons dealers, but also Israel, they're a part of it.

02:13:29.000 And of course, we have to mention that about half the people in Israel are against all this.

02:13:35.000 And they get arrested, they get tortured, they've been enslaved by this.

02:13:42.000 Arab states use Israel as kind of the scapegoat for their own abuse.

02:13:46.000 I mean, the whole thing's a bad situation.

02:13:50.000 And we contribute to that as well.

02:13:53.000 I mean, we don't... Saddam Hussein wasn't a problem until, you know, we decided that he was. 1.00

02:13:59.000 I mean, who provided him with all the weapons that he's supposedly... Our listeners know that.

02:14:05.000 They know that he was a CIA officer and that they set him up just like Noriega and everybody else, but just like Bin Laden. 0.91

02:14:10.000 But going back here to Boston... Uh-huh.

02:14:13.000 We have photos on the website, Associated Press photos, of troops with heavy 50 Cal and 7.62 M60s up on top buildings pointing loaded machine guns at the population.

02:14:29.000 Have you seen that?

02:14:31.000 Yeah!

02:14:31.000 If you just go downtown, you can see them everywhere.

02:14:35.000 You know, I should have gone to this.

02:14:38.000 You should hop on a plane and come up.

02:14:41.000 It's extraordinary, but you know what?

02:14:43.000 Having missed this, if you think that this is any, what do you see in New York?

02:14:50.000 Yeah, I hear New York's gonna be even worse.

02:14:53.000 I would, it, probably, so, you know, you should, you should do a live show from New York, for sure.

02:15:01.000 Well, this is just blowing me away right now, and, uh, but, but, you know, I'm laughing, but it's not funny.

02:15:09.000 You know, it's really not. 0.97

02:15:11.000 It's really pathetic. 0.97

02:15:12.000 It's really... This has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorism? 0.99

02:15:17.000 No.

02:15:18.000 And then you look at who's behind the terrorism and it sure isn't the people they're claiming.

02:15:21.000 I'll tell you what, give us the website for the organization and some other websites we should check out, Tom.

02:15:27.000 Check out bcpr.org.

02:15:32.000 That's the website for BCPR.

02:15:35.000 Can I stay in contact with you and can I get video of stuff you shoot for my local TV show?

02:15:41.000 Yeah, I have some great video, actually, from a protest in Azalea, which is basically all Palestinian civilians and some internationals protesting against the wall being built through their village.

02:15:53.000 I'll even pay you to ship me the footage.

02:15:55.000 I want to show it to people.

02:15:56.000 It's amazing.

02:15:58.000 But get this, I mean, the tear gas that they're using, you can see the soldiers, the woman that filmed this is incredible, and she's with IWPS.

02:16:10.000 And they're just, like, firing this tear gas.

02:16:12.000 But the tear gas is different.

02:16:14.000 It doesn't just burn your eyes and your throat.

02:16:16.000 It actually knocks you out.

02:16:18.000 So, some people were out for 24 hours.

02:16:20.000 Some people who have been out were out for days.

02:16:23.000 And they're basically using chemical weapons against these people.

02:16:29.000 Unbelievable.

02:16:30.000 Well, Tom... I can send you the footage, for sure.

02:16:33.000 Tom, we're going to get Jeannie Crescenzo on the show coming up here in a few minutes. 1.00

02:16:42.000 Do you want to stay on with her, or do you need to go?

02:16:45.000 No, I actually need to go, but I would love to talk to you again.

02:16:49.000 Yeah, give us those websites again.

02:16:51.000 You can check bcpr.org, lsolidarity.org, any of the ACLU you could check, or US Campaign Against Deoccupation.

02:17:09.000 Okay, and can I get you back on later this week as this develops?

02:17:13.000 Sure.

02:17:14.000 I'll perhaps even get you on the phone from the street?

02:17:17.000 Yeah, I did that a lot in the West Bank.

02:17:19.000 I'd be happy to do it for you.

02:17:20.000 Okay, well we really appreciate you, Tom Wallace, coming on and your courage to be in the middle of all this and be careful, okay?

02:17:26.000 Sure, thank you.

02:17:27.000 Take care, my friend.

02:17:29.000 Wow, I mean in the middle of all this, machine guns aimed at them in cages.

02:17:34.000 Martial law folks training the country who's watching this how to be good little slaves. 0.84

02:17:39.000 PrisonPlanet.tv is the website.

02:17:41.000 We'll talk to another one of these folks when we get back. 0.89

02:17:43.000 Stay with us.

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02:21:39.000 She's the editor of CPR4Democracy.com.

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02:21:42.000 All right, folks.

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02:21:55.000 She's the editor of CPR4Democracy.com.

02:22:00.000 We have a link to it at Infowars.com.

02:22:02.000 And they are literally locked up in cages.

02:22:06.000 No protests allowed where the public can see it.

02:22:09.000 They have them under the train station with barbed wire and nets over them.

02:22:13.000 She was at Miami, where they admittedly marched judges and union heads down alleys and beat them savagely.

02:22:22.000 She said it's not as bad there in Boston yet, where they openly attack peaceful people.

02:22:28.000 But they've got machine guns trained on them, armored vehicles, helicopters.

02:22:32.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

02:22:34.000 This is about training you how to be a slave.

02:22:36.000 And I talked to her during the break and she said, Our freedoms are basically dead right now.

02:22:41.000 This is martial law, folks.

02:22:43.000 Jeannie, it's great to have you on with us, and thanks for joining us.

02:22:47.000 You've got the floor.

02:22:48.000 What's going on?

02:22:49.000 Well, people are not buying into it.

02:22:53.000 They've built this cage that's like a concentration camp.

02:22:57.000 But we're not going there.

02:22:59.000 Yesterday, there was a rally and march from the Boston Commons.

02:23:05.000 There was, by my estimate, between 4,000 and 5,000 people.

02:23:09.000 They gathered in the Commons.

02:23:10.000 It was peaceful.

02:23:11.000 It was sponsored by ANSWER.

02:23:13.000 There were many organizations that had tables set up and people were passing around their pamphlets and it was really what democracy is all about.

02:23:23.000 Then we all organized into a parade and marched.

02:23:26.000 It was about a four mile march down to the Fleet Center where the convention is and back again to the park.

02:23:33.000 While we were on the way, there was police all along the side.

02:23:37.000 But it was nothing compared to the terrorizing presence of police that I witnessed in Miami.

02:23:46.000 I have to admit that it was intimidating, but controlled.

02:23:52.000 Now they are wearing the black ski masks, the black uniforms.

02:23:55.000 Not all of them.

02:23:56.000 There were some.

02:23:57.000 Not ski masks.

02:24:00.000 The shield in front of their face.

02:24:01.000 There were some that were Dressed like they were in Miami.

02:24:06.000 Well, I do have photos of them in Ski Mask, too.

02:24:09.000 You may not have seen those.

02:24:10.000 I didn't see those.

02:24:10.000 What about the AP photos of men with huge machine guns aiming at the public?

02:24:15.000 Well, they may have been there.

02:24:17.000 I didn't see that.

02:24:20.000 We were marching through narrow streets and I don't know what was up on buildings and things.

02:24:26.000 There was some police on horses.

02:24:31.000 It was not I have to say that again, it wasn't as bad as Miami.

02:24:35.000 It did feel like, you know, who's protecting who here?

02:24:40.000 Because if they're supposed to be there to protect us from terrorists, what were they doing?

02:24:46.000 This is all too convenient, that we're going to get rid of America's freedoms here in our constitutional republic.

02:24:54.000 In the name of defending the country's liberties and freedoms.

02:24:58.000 Now, you were in Miami.

02:25:00.000 For those that aren't aware of what happened last year, can you break that down for them?

02:25:04.000 We couldn't even get to the protest site.

02:25:06.000 Now, you're talking about protesters who were retired people, grandmothers and grandfathers, union people.

02:25:13.000 These were not wacko jobs.

02:25:15.000 These were ordinary American citizens who wanted to protest against It seems to be an escalating system of taking our jobs away.

02:25:27.000 Well, I interviewed 85-year-old veterans who were taken down alleys to be beaten and told you shouldn't protest.

02:25:36.000 I'm not denying that that happened.

02:25:38.000 I did witness that.

02:25:39.000 So what happened in Miami?

02:25:40.000 You said you couldn't get to the protest.

02:25:42.000 No, they made it impossible.

02:25:44.000 We ended up We got on a bus.

02:25:48.000 We parked our car far far away, got on a bus that was supposed to take us down to the area.

02:25:55.000 And then about 6 or 7 blocks away, the bus driver tells us, and the bus is all full of protesters, says, I've been ordered to turn around.

02:26:06.000 He wouldn't even let us off there.

02:26:08.000 So we took him.

02:26:09.000 But it turned out he was a transit authority cop.

02:26:12.000 And they were union people, and they were sympathetic to the cause.

02:26:16.000 So he took us to the metro station and told us exactly how to get there that way, which we did.

02:26:24.000 But there were a lot of people that didn't get down to the protest site, just because they just made it impossible there.

02:26:31.000 When I arrived, I thought I was in another country.

02:26:34.000 There were four deep of police in riot gear.

02:26:39.000 Holding all kinds of interesting weapons that I never saw before.

02:26:44.000 Brand new things that were bought with the money that was put aside for homeland security in the Iraq War.

02:26:50.000 Part of the $87 million that was put aside for protection.

02:26:55.000 Well, that's part of the war.

02:26:56.000 War against the people. 0.92

02:26:57.000 That's war against the people.

02:26:59.000 So, I was afraid that I was going to see that kind of presence here in Boston.

02:27:05.000 What I did the other night, I was down at the Boston Social Forum, and I'm reporting on what's going on, because God knows you're not seeing it in the press.

02:27:14.000 In fact, this morning it was the New York Times.

02:27:16.000 Well, I'll tell you what, stay there.

02:27:17.000 I want to hear what we're not hearing from the New York Times.

02:27:19.000 I want to hear about the difference between Boston and Miami, but I do want to get into what happened in Miami, too.

02:27:25.000 That's important.

02:27:26.000 And we'll be right back with our guest.

02:27:29.000 Stay with us.

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02:31:02.000 All right, my friends.

02:31:03.000 We're talking to Jeannie Crescenzo, editor of CPR4Democracy.com.

02:31:10.000 Okay.

02:31:11.000 They have photos of these cages where they lock people up in these cages where the public can't even see you a half mile from the convention center, behind even other larger fences.

02:31:23.000 We're going to have her on for about five more minutes, ten more minutes, then we'll go to Dan and Joshua and others that are holding, and a bunch of others just out of control, New World Order, fascistic, communistic, whatever you want to call it, total tyranny, globally, run by the military-industrial complex.

02:31:41.000 But, I've been talking to Jeannie during the breaks, I mean, she was in Miami, she was at the Marshall Law there in Georgia, But now she's in Boston right now, folks.

02:31:51.000 Our people there on the ground.

02:31:53.000 We're going to have lots of these folks on throughout the week of the Democratic National Convention, also with the situation in New York.

02:31:58.000 But during the break, we had left off with the media not telling us, even the so-called liberal media, not telling us what's really going on.

02:32:08.000 Tell us about that.

02:32:09.000 Well, the New York Times says that, you know, the Democratic Party is this great unified front.

02:32:14.000 And they don't mention anything That's happening here outside of the convention.

02:32:20.000 They didn't mention a word about this rally in March with 5,000 people yesterday.

02:32:28.000 They didn't mention the Boston Social Forum with thousands and thousands of people came and participated in over 600 different types of events over the weekend.

02:32:39.000 I just came from a forum at St.

02:32:42.000 Paul's Church here right off the Boston Commons.

02:32:45.000 The church is packed and we have speakers like Jesse Jackson and Dennis Kucinich talking about civil rights.

02:32:54.000 And it's not being picked up by the media.

02:32:57.000 Not only that, according to what I read in the front page of the New York Times today, the Democratic Party is trying to tell us now to lighten up on Bush.

02:33:06.000 Well, yeah, the skull and bones staged election with the two cousins.

02:33:11.000 And again, folks, whether you love the Democratic Party or hate it, you should be able to see the other side.

02:33:15.000 Even the conservatives that are protesting aren't going to get much attention.

02:33:19.000 And this is a staged event, right out in everybody's face, and we should know what the protesters are saying and doing, but by shutting this down, by having these zones, they're able to ignore that because they don't want the average Democrat knowing that Terry says he's for this war.

02:33:36.000 If we were to protest in that cage, and let's make it clear, it's not like anybody's being forced into that cage.

02:33:42.000 What the demonstrators have decided, and the progressive groups here, is that we will not We will go anywhere but there.

02:33:50.000 We are not going in there.

02:33:51.000 But they're saying that that's your designated area.

02:33:53.000 What are they going to do?

02:33:55.000 We're just not going there.

02:33:56.000 We're protesting the cage by not using the cage.

02:33:59.000 Okay, I've got to stop you right there.

02:34:01.000 You mentioned that everybody was there, the protest was over in Miami, sitting in the park, and then suddenly some provocateurs did something, and you said definitely provocateurs.

02:34:11.000 I have video in Seattle of hired provocateurs, police admitting it.

02:34:15.000 Can you describe what happened there?

02:34:17.000 Well, there were people who were marching in alongside us that were dressed like anarchists.

02:34:23.000 You know, they had the all black and the black ski masks on.

02:34:28.000 But they were so out of it compared to 99% of the people there were just regular folks.

02:34:36.000 That we're protesting the FDA.

02:34:38.000 And then they always create the problem.

02:34:40.000 And then the cops, I've seen it on video, don't go after them.

02:34:43.000 They'll run right past them.

02:34:45.000 And here in Austin, at the Fortune 500 meeting four years ago, I have video of this, folks.

02:34:50.000 We put it on local TV.

02:34:52.000 There's about 500 protesters.

02:34:53.000 We're there at the Capitol to march to the Four Seasons Hotel, about eight blocks away.

02:34:59.000 And these two huge thugs with arms the size of tree trunks, in ski masks, are trying to start fights.

02:35:04.000 I go, media! 0.66

02:35:05.000 It's cops!

02:35:06.000 They're trying to revocateur!

02:35:07.000 And 50 cops run across the street and go, back off, Jones!

02:35:10.000 Well, you know, the thing was, the media arrived with protective gear in Miami.

02:35:18.000 This is before, you know, we even started to march.

02:35:21.000 Being a journalist myself, I went up to these guys, you know, photographers and journalists, and, you know, what are you guys all wearing this armor for?

02:35:30.000 And they were like, oh, we've got to talk to you.

02:35:33.000 So they knew ahead of time.

02:35:35.000 And I saw at the G8 Summit, where it was, you know, there was gazillions of dollars spent on security.

02:35:42.000 Most of it was to intimidate people not to show up.

02:35:45.000 So there weren't that many people.

02:35:46.000 But we went and did a protest at the Hercules chemical plant.

02:35:51.000 Brunswick, Georgia, the pollution is so bad that the grammar school there has no windows.

02:35:59.000 And so that's where we had started this demonstration.

02:36:01.000 And we walked down to the Hercules plant.

02:36:03.000 And across the street was the bridge to go over to Pine Island, where they were holding the summit.

02:36:11.000 And it was just too much of a temptation for the people.

02:36:13.000 They wanted to cross that bridge.

02:36:15.000 And fortunately, it was local police, and I have to give credit to the police chief of Brunswick.

02:36:22.000 He was at a lot of these events.

02:36:24.000 He made himself available, and he was a human being.

02:36:27.000 And when this confrontation started, you could see that they were going to try to get over that bridge.

02:36:38.000 Only about a dozen armored police showed up.

02:36:41.000 So it wasn't this huge show force like Miami.

02:36:44.000 And there was a kind of lined up face-to-face people yelling.

02:36:47.000 Well, the people were yelling and the police were just standing there.

02:36:51.000 And there was no attack on people.

02:36:53.000 There were no arrests.

02:36:54.000 They just let people voice it, what they were trying to say.

02:36:57.000 And that's what protests should be about. 0.98

02:36:59.000 Okay, let's let the police keep us from doing what we're not supposed to do.

02:37:03.000 You know, whether it's causing, you know, they have people that they have to protect.

02:37:08.000 I understand that.

02:37:09.000 But it was handled right.

02:37:11.000 In the end, The police chief negotiated an agreement where everybody could win.

02:37:16.000 He let the people, the protesters...

02:37:19.000 Go across the street, march across the street, and march around the intersection and come back.

02:37:23.000 And of course they did it in little tiny baby steps that drove everybody nuts.

02:37:26.000 But again, we're having the chilling effect.

02:37:28.000 You said that instead of, whereas years ago tens of thousands would show up, you said 300 showed up because they declared much of Georgia an emergency preemptive zone.

02:37:38.000 And everybody was, not only that, they said that there was going to be a terrorist strike.

02:37:42.000 And now they're saying the same thing about here in Boston.

02:37:45.000 Oh, there's going to be a terrorist attack.

02:37:46.000 And they tell the media that to bind them psychologically to the... No, they're telling the people that because they don't want people to know.

02:37:53.000 But they're also telling the media, you're the target, you know, stay with us.

02:37:56.000 Right.

02:37:57.000 Stay with us behind the fences in the hard zone.

02:38:00.000 Don't go out with the protesters.

02:38:02.000 Right.

02:38:02.000 Now this cage that they have set up is totally invisible to the public.

02:38:08.000 If we were to stage a protest in there, it would be a total waste of time.

02:38:12.000 Let alone the fact that if that was a building, it would be condemned.

02:38:16.000 And a federal judge has now called it an internment camp.

02:38:20.000 Absolutely.

02:38:21.000 But then he goes on to say, but it's going to stand.

02:38:23.000 What's the excuse for that?

02:38:26.000 He says that he has information from John Ashcroft that there's a reason That there's a secure enough of a security threat that this is necessary?

02:38:35.000 The same government that's been caught lying, what, about a hundred times about weapons of mass destruction and terror threats?

02:38:40.000 Right.

02:38:40.000 Well, and they're telling us there's definitely going to be a terrorist attack here in Boston.

02:38:44.000 Well, you know, again, it was the same thing.

02:38:46.000 They said there was going to be a terrorist attack in Brunswick.

02:38:50.000 If I was a terrorist, why would I attack people who were fighting for me?

02:38:54.000 For freedom?

02:38:56.000 I mean, come on!

02:39:02.000 But it works.

02:39:02.000 It keeps people away.

02:39:04.000 Well, look, I'm going to have to be honest with you, Jeannie. 0.79

02:39:10.000 Are you familiar with the Northwoods document?

02:39:12.000 No, I'm not.

02:39:14.000 Well, go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

02:39:18.000 Go to the 9-11 prior knowledge section.

02:39:20.000 This is 9-11.

02:39:21.000 We have an official U.S.

02:39:23.000 government plan to carry out terror attacks and blame it on foreign enemies as an excuse As a pretext to invade foreign countries.

02:39:32.000 I'm sure you've heard of PNAC?

02:39:34.000 Yes.

02:39:34.000 Project for a New American Century said, we need helpful terror attacks on the order of Pearl Harbor.

02:39:40.000 And so, they're doing nothing to stop terror attacks.

02:39:43.000 Bin Laden's their little CIA boy.

02:39:46.000 This whole thing is staged.

02:39:47.000 And I hope the protesters will start talking about stuff like that.

02:39:50.000 Because nothing's being done to protect us from terrorists.

02:39:53.000 And this is all to train us how to live in a police state.

02:39:56.000 We're already living in a police state.

02:39:59.000 As I walked back from that cage, I was, I felt, and I wrote this in my article, I felt heartbroken.

02:40:05.000 But I walked past these pubs where they were just, you know, packed with people, people standing in the door watching the TV over the bar where there was a Patriots game.

02:40:16.000 I mean, not Patriots, Red Sox.

02:40:18.000 And I just thought to myself, they don't know what's going on.

02:40:24.000 And when it's all gone, when our democracy is gone, They won't notice.

02:40:29.000 They won't even know that it's gone.

02:40:34.000 That's why we've got to wake them up, and I appreciate you coming on the show, Jeannie.

02:40:40.000 Can we get you back up again in a few days?

02:40:42.000 Yeah.

02:40:46.000 I have a phone number there.

02:40:47.000 I'll call back because I had to use a different phone.

02:40:49.000 My cell phone was dying on me.

02:40:50.000 Well, that's fine, but I'd like to get you on when you're out there during the demonstrations.

02:40:55.000 Be safe and take care.

02:40:58.000 I appreciate it.

02:40:58.000 And, you know, again, folks, these have all been kind of Democrat, fringe groups, democracy this, democracy that.

02:41:03.000 But the point is, they've got a right to say and do whatever they want.

02:41:07.000 They're not a threat.

02:41:08.000 The globalists are behind the terror.

02:41:10.000 And you heard the head of the ACLU on admitting that, oh yeah, they talk about martial law under red alert.

02:41:15.000 This is all about destroying our freedoms.

02:41:18.000 And they're going to wall off the cities, have toll roads where they search your cars.

02:41:23.000 They're going to force vaccines on you.

02:41:25.000 They're going to build more and more prisons. 0.93

02:41:28.000 This is the new America. 0.51

02:41:29.000 In fact, I'm going to cover some of those articles here in a second.

02:41:32.000 But let's take a few calls now.

02:41:33.000 Dan in New Hampshire, thanks for holding.

02:41:35.000 You're on the air, Dan.

02:41:36.000 Yes, hello Alex.

02:41:37.000 I'm glad Jeannie spoke about the baseball game.

02:41:41.000 Interesting thing happened there.

02:41:43.000 Kerry made the opening pitch.

02:41:46.000 And then there was a military soldier full of fatigue, and it looked like he purposely missed it or something.

02:41:53.000 I don't know, it was just like, yeah, it was like, we're not accepting you.

02:41:57.000 It looked like a big stumble.

02:41:59.000 Well, I mean, whether it's the Super Bowl or the NBA Championships or the Kentucky Derby, they have black helicopters, troops, machine guns.

02:42:09.000 They're training you.

02:42:10.000 This is normal.

02:42:11.000 This keeps you safe.

02:42:12.000 We're getting rid of Poseidon's.

02:42:15.000 What she said about it being right in front of them, they won't even realize, I mean, there it was, right there.

02:42:19.000 You know, Kerry throwing a softball to a soldier, and you know, he's not catching it, he's not accepting Kerry, and the police stayed at the pond.

02:42:28.000 I mean, I just saw so much symbolism.

02:42:30.000 I was freaking out by it.

02:42:31.000 But then Kerry is going to do the exact same thing as Bush.

02:42:35.000 And then there was like a standoff between them, and then finally they shook their hands and walked away, but it's just odd.

02:42:41.000 I don't know, I saw it, and I just And another thing, I'm a natural kind of person here.

02:42:49.000 I really don't like them telling me what herbs I can or can't have.

02:42:53.000 They're moving to control and ban a lot of that.

02:42:56.000 It's across the board.

02:42:57.000 I don't think the listeners get the magnitude of the fact they're going to force our children and adults to take vaccines that change the brain chemistry so, quote, we can't get addicted to drugs.

02:43:08.000 Yeah, I go out there, I pick St.

02:43:10.000 John's Wort and Comfrey and a variety of I hear you, I appreciate the call.

02:43:15.000 Joshua in South Carolina, go ahead.

02:43:16.000 Yes.

02:43:16.000 Hey, am I making it?

02:43:18.000 Yes, you are.

02:43:19.000 They wanted to shove pills down everyone's throats, and the pills are causing more trouble than they're worth.

02:43:25.000 I hear you.

02:43:26.000 I appreciate the call.

02:43:27.000 Joshua in South Carolina, go ahead.

02:43:30.000 Yes.

02:43:33.000 Hey, am I making it?

02:43:35.000 Yes, you are.

02:43:36.000 Hey, what's going on?

02:43:38.000 I was just going to say that them pills, they are bad.

02:43:42.000 Everything's bad, nearly.

02:43:44.000 You know, how everything's going, but I was just going to say that, uh, you know, you probably don't listen to a lot of music.

02:43:51.000 I don't know if you do, but there's like a little band called Incubus, and they do a lot of stuff about, like, 1984.

02:43:57.000 They talk about how the, how the bleed stayed.

02:44:01.000 It's not the 70s music, except it's a lot more, and people are more woken up to it than And you know, J.D.

02:44:07.000 Kiss had one on your show Friday night, you had, if I was right, you had one about why did the terrorists hit, why did they hide behind the cowards and everything.

02:44:17.000 I mean, people are getting woken up by all this.

02:44:20.000 Yeah, the number one song in the country says the government carried out 9-11.

02:44:23.000 Oh yes, sir!

02:44:24.000 And when the popular culture starts doing that, the globalists are in a lot of trouble.

02:44:29.000 Thanks for the call.

02:44:31.000 I'll try to get to some more calls if I have time, but I'm just looking at massive stacks here of news that I want to cover that are all of the greatest importance.

02:44:42.000 Here's the New York Times.

02:44:43.000 Now again, a year ago, I saw numbers that 7 million people were in the prison system.

02:44:50.000 People couldn't believe that.

02:44:51.000 They got four-year-old Justice Department numbers and said, Alex, it says 4 million.

02:44:57.000 Oh, Alex, it says 2 million.

02:44:58.000 No, no.

02:44:58.000 It was 7 million years ago.

02:45:01.000 Upwards of 5 behind bars.

02:45:05.000 The numbers are always a few years old.

02:45:08.000 But you can always get the real numbers, projected numbers.

02:45:12.000 Right now it's more like 8.5 million.

02:45:14.000 Again, that's current numbers, but now they're emitting 7 million, or 6.9.

02:45:18.000 U.S.

02:45:19.000 correctional population hits new high.

02:45:21.000 The number of Americans under the control of criminal justice system grew by 130,700 last year to reach a new high of nearly 6.9 million according to the Justice Department's report released today.

02:45:32.000 So again, and that's a 3.2% increase in 2003.

02:45:37.000 But again, those aren't even the real numbers, folks.

02:45:39.000 It's well over 8 million.

02:45:41.000 The growth is what the report termed the correctional population comes at a time when the crime rate nationwide has been relatively stable for several years.

02:45:50.000 And it's now the biggest part of the economy.

02:45:53.000 And they say it's going to be 30 million by the end of this decade.

02:45:57.000 Excuse me, 33 million.

02:45:59.000 So, very, very serious.

02:46:02.000 Here's an article.

02:46:03.000 Confusion reigns as security rules.

02:46:05.000 Oh, security.

02:46:06.000 This is the Boston Globe.

02:46:08.000 No, Boston Herald.

02:46:12.000 Uh, and it says, uh, with a 15-foot fence, and it's more like 30, and black netting, an area around the Fleet Center was transformed into the so-called Hard Zone, where uniformed soldiers, soldiers and police officers in bright orange raincoats, patrolled outside with the Secret Service, uh, completing its suite of the facility and security, uh, uh, threats in preparation of the start of the Democratic National Committee.

02:46:37.000 And, uh, it goes on and on.

02:46:38.000 Now, I've got articles here Oh, there's so many.

02:46:44.000 Gosh, I should have covered this earlier.

02:46:46.000 Oh, listen to this.

02:46:48.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

02:46:51.000 Japanese Council approves human cloning.

02:46:54.000 New Jersey approved human cloning on last year, folks.

02:46:58.000 And that's keeping fetuses alive till birth and using them after birth. 0.99

02:47:01.000 Oh, yes.

02:47:02.000 Japan's top science council voted Friday to adopt policy recommendations that would permit the limited cloning of human embryos for scientific research.

02:47:08.000 Okay, thought you'd want to know about that.

02:47:11.000 Another article here out of Canada where it says they're going to have RFID chips in the passports and license and it's going to scan everybody and just unspeakable.

02:47:23.000 Unspeakable.

02:47:27.000 And then, folks, I could spend the whole show on this.

02:47:30.000 Children to get jabs against drug addiction.

02:47:32.000 Ministers consider vaccination scheme, heroin, cocaine, and nicotine targeted.

02:47:38.000 And it says it changes the chemical protein makeup of the neuroreceptors in your brain and cuts off many forms of endorphins.

02:47:46.000 That's what narcotics mimic is endorphins.

02:47:50.000 And so, And of course the government's approving all these.

02:47:55.000 In Britain it says the government panel is about to pass a law banking people take this.

02:48:05.000 And they say, you could say cocaine is more dangerous than measles, for example.

02:48:09.000 And it says that the National Anti-Drug Immunization Scheme is one of the proposals being put forward by Brain Science Addiction and Drug Project.

02:48:19.000 And then down here it says It says, uh, Scripps Research Institute in San Diego, California has developed a super virus, harmless to humans, which produces proteins that can block or reduce the effects of cocaine.

02:48:31.000 They're gonna permanently block up your neuroreceptors.

02:48:34.000 Folks, I don't have words to say how horrible this is, and they're gonna make you take it with men in black ski masks unless you say no!

02:48:42.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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02:51:39.000 Folks, I cannot, again, stress that they've already been adding chemicals, hormones, and vaccines to brain damage stress that they've already been adding chemicals, hormones, and vaccines to brain damage the entire population that takes them by design They've been caught doing it.

02:52:03.000 But now they're overtly saying, oh, we're going to give you a drug that doesn't let you have these certain type of endorphins, that way you won't get addicted to drugs.

02:52:12.000 And we're going to make you take it because the cost is so great at treating drugs.

02:52:15.000 And then it changes your brain chemistry with a, quote, Deadly virus!

02:52:22.000 Oh, it's deadly in other mammals, but not in you, and it just changes your brain.

02:52:25.000 Goes in and clogs the recept- Folks!

02:52:28.000 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do! 0.88

02:52:30.000 We're gonna inject you and change your brain, and everything will be fine after we've done- I mean, I've got this stack of news I want to get to, but I just- Do you understand that once they got the electronic voting machines in, they'll say, oh, you all voted for this, shut up, it's a democracy.

02:52:44.000 Whatever the people want, they get. 0.96

02:52:45.000 Oh, we're gonna arrest those and make you take them. 1.00

02:52:49.000 We got a socialist government now, and we have to pay for the drug addicts, so we'll just give you vaccines where you won't want the drugs anymore.

02:52:54.000 We're gonna make all your children take it. 0.95

02:52:56.000 This is the new world, people!

02:52:58.000 We gotta say no!

02:52:59.000 A republic guards against that!

02:53:04.000 And then I got this, U.S.

02:53:05.000 report on prison abuse, a whitewash, ABC News, Australia, U.S.

02:53:09.000 newspapers, New York Times, Washington Post have opened fire, that's whitewashes, on the conclusions of a report by U.S.

02:53:16.000 Army on abuses in prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan, with the Times calling it a whitewash to extradite the high command.

02:53:23.000 Of course they were ordered to do it, but that's another whitewash.

02:53:27.000 And here's another one.

02:53:28.000 Poll.

02:53:28.000 Americans against using torture.

02:53:30.000 Two-thirds of Americans believe the United States should never use physical torture on people.

02:53:34.000 We got a third of the people that are that sick.

02:53:37.000 It detains according to a poll.

02:53:38.000 A majority, 55% in this country, should never use mental torture such as making someone think that they or their family will be killed.

02:53:48.000 45% say you can threaten to kill somebody's children.

02:53:51.000 I mean, what happened to you people?

02:53:53.000 According to a poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes by the University of Maryland.

02:53:59.000 Out of time on that.

02:54:01.000 Iraq wants Russian peacekeepers.

02:54:03.000 And that means our government wants Russian peacekeepers.

02:54:05.000 And that's why Putin says he loves Bush and loves the war.

02:54:08.000 And Bush's daughters say they just admire Vladimir Putin.

02:54:11.000 He's such a good man.

02:54:12.000 And then, oh my goodness.

02:54:14.000 Again, Putin and Blair are amazing leaders.

02:54:17.000 Yeah, amazingly evil.

02:54:18.000 Bush twins, Reuters.

02:54:20.000 No end to it.

02:54:22.000 Oh my goodness.

02:54:24.000 Oh, Bali bombers may be freed, not because there's not enough court evidence, but because they're CIA folks. 0.92

02:54:30.000 That's London Independent.

02:54:32.000 And, uh, we got articles here about Israeli assassin squads here in the U.S.

02:54:39.000 It's just out of control.

02:54:41.000 Another New York Times article about the Bilderberg Group running the planet.

02:54:45.000 A secret conference thought to rule the world is the headline.

02:54:48.000 FBI spy planes patrol the U.S.

02:54:50.000 More on that We're out of time for this broadcast, folks.

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02:55:50.000 And I hear the music!

02:55:51.000 So that means we're basically about to be out of here.

02:55:54.000 But get my videos, make copies, get them out to people.

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02:56:04.000 And I hear the music, so that means we're basically about to be out of here.

02:56:11.000 But get my videos, make copies, get them out to people, expose this.

02:56:15.000 Or they're going to forcibly inject you with vaccines openly.

02:56:19.000 They brain damage you.

02:56:20.000 That change your brain chemistry.

02:56:22.000 They got vaccines, quote, your genetics show you're aggressive.

02:56:26.000 We're going to make your child take stuff that makes them docile.

02:56:28.000 I mean, come on, folks.

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Alex Jones Show - July 26, 2004

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