Alex Jones Show - 20040816_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:21.000 All right, my friends.

00:00:34.000 Welcome to another live edition of the Alex Jones broadcast.

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00:00:42.000 Hard to believe another Monday is now upon us, the 16th day of August 2004.

00:00:49.000 And of course the websites freshly updated for you are InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv Paul Watson, who joins us at least once a week, will be joining us coming up here in about 20 minutes to go over a bunch of news and information that he thinks is important.

00:01:10.000 And then we have, well, an ultra-left wing group coming on.

00:01:16.000 Some would say outright communists.

00:01:19.000 But to talk about the FBI and the visits that some of these leftist organizations have been getting, And that should be an interesting interview in the next hour because I frankly don't like either group and I really think higher levels are controlled by the same people but you'll find out about that later in the next hour.

00:01:44.000 Police tell journalists to leave or be shot.

00:01:50.000 That's right, the Iraqi authorities ordered foreign journals to leave Najaf, I always pronounce that wrong, yesterday, threatening to arrest or even shoot reporters as US Marines and Iraqi government forces resume the fight against Shia militants in their capital city.

00:02:10.000 And it says, the fighting in Najaf, the epicenter of the revolt led by the Shia militant cleric, caused protests from some delegates now very interesting because we have an entire archive on PrisonPlanet.com with the Reuters and BBC and Associated Press where our troops were ordered to kill journalists

00:02:39.000 American, British journalists have been killed.

00:02:43.000 Tanks have been ordered to aim into the Reuters floor of the Baghdad Hotel.

00:02:50.000 This is admitted, and of course no one's getting in trouble for it.

00:02:54.000 When some owl CIA individual supposedly grabs a reporter and cuts their head off, the world screams and freaks out and goes crazy.

00:03:02.000 Which they should.

00:03:04.000 But when our government murders journalists, it's a good thing. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Well, I don't think it's a good thing, but, uh, police tell journalists to leave Najaf or be shot.

00:03:17.000 Funny, that's out of the London Telegraph.

00:03:19.000 Uh, here's another one.

00:03:22.000 And this is out of the London Evening Standard.

00:03:24.000 Gunmen threatened to kill British journalists unless there's a U.S.

00:03:28.000 withdrawal from Najaf.

00:03:32.000 Now, wait a minute.

00:03:34.000 So, the LCIA is threatening to kill the journalists, and then the Open CIAdas are threatening to kill the journalist.

00:03:43.000 So either way, you've got the same thing.

00:03:46.000 Very, very suspicious.

00:03:50.000 And we'll be talking about that.

00:03:52.000 You're welcome to chime in on the subject.

00:03:55.000 Some of the other news here.

00:03:56.000 Porter Goss, in a TV interview, said that he wasn't qualified to be CIA Director, but now that interview is surfacing, we'll go over that.

00:04:06.000 Also, Eurocorps, Takes command of peacekeepers in Afghanistan, the new European Army!

00:04:13.000 Is trouncing and tromping around globe-trotting right now, not just the new NATO force that's not just in the North Atlantic, but all over the planet.

00:04:23.000 And really scary articles here about citizen tattletale squads, a bunch of different articles out fighting terror and crime, and crime, and crime, see?

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:25.000 Absolutely back in the saddle again!

00:08:29.000 Monday, 16th day of August, 04, As we accelerate into the Republican National Convention, a giant police state programming session for the entire population, the campaign stops for the cousins, Kerry and Bush, the Skull and Bones buddies, are also little mini police state exercises with lots of police in black ski masks and armored vehicles shoving the public around the streets letting us know who the boss is.

00:09:01.000 Oh, there is so much news here, just masses of it.

00:09:07.000 Where should we start?

00:09:10.000 I mean, where to begin?

00:09:12.000 I would challenge all of you to begin at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and to just daily go look at all the news that we've got posted there on the site.

00:09:29.000 It's just incredible.

00:09:31.000 A lot of it we end up not getting to hear on the broadcast, but later we will talk about this Seattle Post-Intelligence article, and there's been lots of these out there mongering, on American Hiroshima is possible.

00:09:46.000 If a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon, a midget even smaller than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, exploded in Times Square, the fireball would reach tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit. 0.99

00:09:59.000 It would vaporize or destroy the Theater District, Madison Square Garden, the Empire States Building, Grand Central Terminal, and Carnegie Hall, along with me and my building.

00:10:13.000 Is what the writer said.

00:10:14.000 The blast would partly destroy a much larger area, including the United Nations.

00:10:21.000 On a weekday, some 500,000 people would be killed.

00:10:25.000 Could this happen?

00:10:26.000 Unfortunately, it could, and many experts believe that such an attack somewhere is likely.

00:10:34.000 We'll get to more of this fear-mongering report, but I want to get into this first.

00:10:43.000 And whereas we saw maybe one of these a month three years ago, we now see two or three of these a day.

00:10:56.000 This is out of the Fairmont Sentinel.

00:11:00.000 Citizens on patrol introduced.

00:11:03.000 Now remember last week we interviewed the Alabama Defense Forces

00:11:13.000 We had this guy on and we linked over to their website, not just the photos that our listener took where we learned of all this at an Alabama football game a few months ago, a college football game, but photos of these guys at the shopping malls and on the street corners searching 8 year old girls with a hamburger and a cigarette in one hand and searching somebody's bag with the other.

00:11:35.000 Training people how to live like slaves does absolutely nothing to keep us safe from the threat of Al-Qaeda. 0.96

00:11:42.000 And then I learned that all over the country this is happening, but it's the neighborhood watch, it's the high school children, the young people, it's everybody!

00:11:52.000 And, of course, there's no real terrorists to fight.

00:11:56.000 And so, every time you hear about a Homeland Security program, oh, a billion, too, for cameras in our city.

00:12:03.000 To fight terror and crime.

00:12:05.000 Oh, we put up 300 million dollars worth of cameras for the political meeting we had in town last month, but guess what?

00:12:11.000 They're going to stay in place and spy on you and fight crime.

00:12:15.000 Oh, we want you to go out and look for terrorists and criminals, or signs of criminality, or signs of dumping motor oil in your backyard, or is the neighbor spanking their child?

00:12:26.000 Do you smell marijuana? 0.88

00:12:27.000 Why, that aids terrorists.

00:12:29.000 Call immediately.

00:12:31.000 So, with the backdrop of 9-11 and things changed after 9-11, we've got to do things we never would have done before.

00:12:38.000 Well then, why are you then, we never accepted a secret police Stasi America, Gestapo America to fight crime in the past, and it won't fight crime by the way.

00:12:48.000 It'll actually increase it.

00:12:50.000 The better the police state gets, the more crime and more drugs we have.

00:12:53.000 But the point is, is that this whole backdrop, this whole atmosphere, of the war on terrorism is being focused upon the people.

00:13:03.000 Citizens on patrol introduced.

00:13:05.000 The national night out saw a good turnout Tuesday evening despite cool weather and last week's postponement.

00:13:13.000 Along with a free meal of hot dogs and root beer floats, the night out was an opportunity to meet with Fairmont police officers, firefighters, and Gold Cross paramedics.

00:13:28.000 The Fairmount Canine Unit gave demonstrations and there was a simulated drunk driving accident with a driver arrested and a passenger extracted from the vehicle by emergency personnel and airlifted by Mayo One.

00:13:42.000 There was also a new group introduced to the public Tuesday.

00:13:45.000 The Fairmount VFW has organized a group called Citizens on Patrol or COP.

00:13:53.000 Serve their country in wars, and now they're serving their communities, said Fairmont Police Chief Greg Brolsema.

00:14:00.000 One thing we wanted to do for the Post is to become more involved in the community, said Joe McAlvey, one of the COP members, the vets.

00:14:10.000 They serve their community in a time of war, and coming home, they want to keep serving the community.

00:14:16.000 While community organizations come to us for money, we want to be more proactive.

00:14:20.000 We need to get outside the walls of the VFW.

00:14:24.000 Without the community, we won't be there.

00:14:28.000 And he goes on then to describe what they're doing.

00:14:31.000 Just getting started, they're going to be out in parks and in their neighborhoods.

00:14:39.000 They wear blue shirts.

00:14:42.000 And they say, when you see the blue shirt, you'll know that we're here doing this.

00:14:46.000 And it says, we're just getting started, but we'll do patrols as long as we're comfortable doing so.

00:14:52.000 And it goes on to say, it's all about making this a safer community, and what we're doing is just watching.

00:15:01.000 Oh boy!

00:15:03.000 And, yeah, we know what you do.

00:15:05.000 I mean, this Alabama situation that I learned is in 30 other states.

00:15:10.000 They just issue military police armbands, camouflage uniforms.

00:15:16.000 They have their own armored vehicles, their own machine guns.

00:15:20.000 We have their own photos on our own website.

00:15:22.000 And they just go out with huge spotlights and shine them up in the sky.

00:15:27.000 It does nothing but train children how to live under this system.

00:15:33.000 I've got Associated Press reports with the Neighborhood Watch programs going, we're being taught how to look for women that look like they're pregnant but really aren't, or priests, or women with baby carriages.

00:15:45.000 We're going to fight terror and crime, and we're going to be watching our neighbors.

00:15:50.000 Meanwhile, right here in Austin, Texas and across the country, I've seen literally hundreds of reports where the school children are given their own little Tattletail digital card with a smart chip in it.

00:16:01.000 They're given $200 per family member, neighbor, people in the school they turn in.

00:16:08.000 Hundreds and hundreds of school districts that we know of for an entire semester in the 6th, 7th, 8th grade, depending on the school district, have a BATF or FBI liaison, that is through a federal grant.

00:16:23.000 A local sheriff's deputy is deputized by the feds and teaches year-round.

00:16:28.000 Again, it's a semester class.

00:16:31.000 Uh oh.

00:16:32.000 We'll teach two courses a year in there and we've read the reports, we've got the documents, it's in my film The Takeover.

00:16:40.000 They sit there and have the children write a journal that's passed in every day and the police officer reads it and it's in the agreement that they quote are on the playground questioning the students and quote developing after-school relationships with them and now under the new draft to graduate from high school you'll have to serve in this and have to serve at checkpoint duty Or have to serve in Fugitive Apprehension or Warrant Service?

00:17:06.000 Folks, I have all the mainstream news articles.

00:17:09.000 Literal brown shirts, I'm sorry, blue shirts is what this particular group is going to wear.

00:17:16.000 The federal legislation that passed in 98 to start this says they will wear grey uniforms So just just just myriad squads of people being formed everywhere and again there's not going to be any real terrorists, you know, guys in turbans to fight with.

00:17:33.000 So it's going to be crime and fugitive apprehension and checkpoints and DWI and they're going to simulate these DWI car crashes which they do all over the country to heighten the fear and simulate terror drills and terror attacks.

00:17:47.000 They've got one of these Coming up in Austin on August 30th.

00:17:50.000 Already had one just last week that no one was told about.

00:17:54.000 These simulated events to psychologically condition us.

00:18:01.000 Here's another article, this one out of the Christian Science Monitor, in War on Terror, an expanded citizens' brigade.

00:18:12.000 And it says on a photo here, Kamran Akhtar left a federal courthouse Tuesday at a hearing in Charlotte, North Carolina.

00:18:21.000 The Pakistani citizen was detained last month after being spotted making videotapes of Charlotte skyscrapers.

00:18:28.000 He has family that lives in Austin, we learned.

00:18:32.000 Well, he is video buff and likes to videotape capitals and things.

00:18:38.000 I have to admit, folks, when I am a tourist and when I have time to go on a trip, I, too, videotape landmarks.

00:18:46.000 I remember being a young child at the Hoover Dam taking a 35mm photo.

00:18:52.000 I've got it somewhere.

00:18:53.000 Will I be arrested next?

00:18:55.000 Again, setting that precedent, and clearly looking at this guy, he's done absolutely nothing, no connection to terrorists, but if you try to go to New York City and pull your video camera out now to videotape the police, they run over and hit you on the head with a 2x4 basically and say, you're a terrorist.

00:19:12.000 Why, we've got to get tough.

00:19:14.000 Mike Wallace argued with us.

00:19:15.000 We had to arrest him.

00:19:16.000 He asked, why are you doing this?

00:19:18.000 Well, sir, we're going to arrest you now.

00:19:20.000 Oh, you're chewing a candy bar aggressively.

00:19:22.000 Oh, you're sitting on a park bench in an improper fashion.

00:19:24.000 We have to arrest everyone.

00:19:26.000 Why?

00:19:26.000 Things changed after 9-11.

00:19:30.000 And it says now that they arrested this guy, that the citizens are being recruited to call for the arrest of anyone seen with a video camera.

00:19:40.000 Meanwhile, they're putting cameras up everywhere looking at us.

00:19:44.000 Terrorists wouldn't need to take a video camera and videotape things because every major landmark is on online video feeds that the feds have that they encourage citizens to go look at and spy on. 0.60

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00:24:12.000 I have an article here about how there's no real security at the Olympic Games going on at the birthplace of the Games in Athens, Greece.

00:24:24.000 Oh, they've got Big Brother face scanning cameras and troops in black and green, ski masks everywhere, and there's lots of that on the news training you how to live under that.

00:24:34.000 But reporters are saying that you can just easily waltz right up to dignitaries, world leaders, and be 60 feet away.

00:24:42.000 And news agencies have done simulations of getting weapons in.

00:24:47.000 And folks that were there on the ground that we interviewed who were there in Boston.

00:24:54.000 It was all just for the cameras.

00:24:56.000 It was all just an illusion.

00:24:58.000 And it's the same thing with this Pakistani man, and they've arrested a lot of other people out with video cameras videotaping landmarks.

00:25:07.000 Did you know that there are federal and state websites where they encourage the citizenry to go watch the surveillance cameras?

00:25:15.000 I mean, I can go online and look at all the surveillance cameras that are hooked into the grid in Atlanta, Georgia, New York City, Austin, Texas.

00:25:25.000 It's all right there, and suppose a terrorist knew this.

00:25:30.000 Terrorists can have hidden cameras.

00:25:33.000 Terrorists can go online and find photos of whatever landmarks they want from every conceivable angle.

00:25:39.000 This is insane!

00:25:41.000 Someone with no criminal record, no background, no connection to terrorists, gets arrested, and then now, you know, the Christian Science Monitor says that, oh, citizen tattletale squads are being formed to keep us safe after last week's terror warnings, which turned out to be four years old, but oh, those have been bolstered by a Pakistani in Austin and other cities videotaping things. 0.72

00:26:05.000 Brace for nuclear attack!

00:26:07.000 Joining us is Paul Watson.

00:26:09.000 He's got a bunch of news he wants to go over and cover that, believe me, you'll want to stay with us for that.

00:26:13.000 But, Paul, I mean, this development of somebody's got a video camera, they're a terrorist, this is very convenient.

00:26:22.000 Well, yeah, and it's the same vacuum of common sense as is displayed with the Stars of the Society article that you were just talking about.

00:26:30.000 I mean, it talks about people who request information at amusement parks.

00:26:35.000 That's a sign of terrorism.

00:26:37.000 And obviously, as you just said, taking photographs of famous landmarks.

00:26:41.000 It reminds me of that satirical cartoon a few months back, which came out after the FBI had said that, you know, people who buy almanacs may be terrorists.

00:26:52.000 And the cartoon is where the wife calls Homeland on her husband because he's reading the morning paper.

00:26:58.000 And, you know, the train conductor screams Al-Qaeda after a man asks him for the time.

00:27:03.000 I mean, It's amazing.

00:27:05.000 I've talked to people who have had their neighbours called the Department of Defence because they stay up later at night than most other people.

00:27:14.000 The neighbours considered that they may be terrorists because they don't go to bed until 2am.

00:27:19.000 How crazy is that?

00:27:20.000 And what's, you know, more disturbing is that the DoD actually sent people around to investigate it.

00:27:27.000 Well, what they do is they create this atmosphere of fear, something must be done, and when they get hundreds of thousands of little tattletale wannabes all lined up in their new uniforms, whether they're blue or grey or camo, just myriad organizations out there doing this now, there's no real terrorism to fight, and as we said they would do, Homeland Security's going, okay, crime is care, look for crime.

00:27:51.000 Yeah, I mean, the definition of what they called suspicious behavior, that same line we hear over and over again, in the fear-mongering leaflets, the ones that I've seen, which are sent out by the government in both the UK and Australia to every home.

00:28:07.000 We now have those here that are even worse.

00:28:10.000 And, you know, suspicious behavior is defined as almost anything. 0.98

00:28:13.000 It's so broad that, you know, the kind of scum who've got nothing better to do than harass people who are minding their own business will jump on anything, call it suspicious, and then call Homeland.

00:28:24.000 So, it's about creating fear, just like in all major airports, where they have these, you know, glass display cases showing the things that they have confiscated. 0.90

00:28:32.000 Everybody knows what a penknife looks like, but why do they have to put it out there to show people?

00:28:37.000 And it's to remind people of the fear, it's to remind people of 9-11, and a lot of this nonsense from the Stasi Society comes from us going to these airports and just accepting all this. 0.54

00:28:48.000 Well, here's an example.

00:28:49.000 I got a pair of shoes wet, And then they got all grimy and so I got a can of Desenex and it looks like powdered sugar or cocaine.

00:29:01.000 And I was putting some in there and it got on the counter and I had a repairman coming over in about an hour and I got the powder off the table.

00:29:08.000 Because I don't want them to, when they come in here, to see some Desenex anti-fungal powder on the table.

00:29:15.000 Because folks, I see articles every day where stuff like that gets you a SWAT team rate.

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:21.000 That's all part of the freedom, Paul.

00:29:23.000 It makes you more conscious of it, which then inculcates that suspicion into you, so you do get hyper about it.

00:29:30.000 And Paul, I'm not paranoid.

00:29:31.000 I've had a carpet cleaner almost call the cops on me for a shotgun.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, now they're putting these sensors in airports which test stress levels for suspicious behavior.

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00:33:30.000 We're talking to Paul Watson.

00:33:31.000 He's my webmaster for the PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv side of our InfoWar.

00:33:37.000 Paul, let's go over the top stories on PrisonPlanet.com and what you think is most important right now, today.

00:33:45.000 Well, I think the main story is the threat to shoot independent journalists who don't leave Najaf because, you know, any government that has to go to the length of threatening to kill journalists in order to stop them reporting on something has something pretty substantial to hide.

00:34:02.000 And in Iraq it's no different.

00:34:04.000 Yesterday they ordered all foreign journalists to leave Najaf or they would be shot.

00:34:09.000 At first they actually told the journalists that there was a bomb threat to their hotel.

00:34:14.000 But the only threat to the hotel was when the Iraqi police actually started firing at the hotel as a means of intimidation.

00:34:21.000 Now I want to stop you right there.

00:34:24.000 I have the London Telegraph, I have the Associated Press in front of me, but it's not really on our nightly news.

00:34:30.000 You have to read the news wires.

00:34:32.000 You have a huge archive on PrisonPlanet.com, I hope you can link this under this story for people, Paul, where they admittedly have targeted journalists.

00:34:40.000 Now think of the open criminality of this.

00:34:43.000 And at the same time, guess what?

00:34:45.000 Al-Cieda, they're now saying that gunmen threatened to kill British journalists Unless U.S.

00:34:52.000 withdrawal from NAJIF.

00:34:54.000 So we've got both sides supposedly saying the same thing.

00:34:58.000 So Paul, go over more of the newest development, but let's go back over some of those past examples.

00:35:04.000 Well yeah, we know that the policy of eliminating independent journalists spans back before the war even started because it was reported by the BBC and on Irish radio that the Pentagon publicly stated that if satellite uplinks were detected in Iraq and around Baghdad that they hadn't authorised and approved.

00:35:25.000 Then they would be fired upon and destroyed along with, obviously, the people broadcasting from them.

00:35:31.000 The bombing of the Palestine Hotel which housed journalists in Baghdad, the investigation later concluded that it was carried out by US tanks.

00:35:40.000 The footage showed that.

00:35:41.000 That killed several people.

00:35:43.000 And then you have cases like that of Mazan Darna, the award-winning Reuters cameraman who uncovered evidence of mass graves being dug where US troops were buried to hide the real casualty numbers from the US public.

00:35:58.000 And he was, you know, shot in the head.

00:36:00.000 And there's video of the tank rolling right up.

00:36:02.000 He says hi to them and they machine gun him.

00:36:05.000 Yeah, and obviously these people, the tanks know that they're journalists because they wear the clothing which identifies them.

00:36:13.000 There's no shooting, no fighting going up and Abrams rolls right up and kills him at 50 yards!

00:36:18.000 Yeah, and we know that they've tried to keep a heavy lid on those real casualty numbers which is why you've got possibly thousands of troops buried in mass graves around Iraq.

00:36:29.000 Um, the death of Terry Lloyd, the British journalist.

00:36:33.000 Again, that investigation later concluded that he was killed by U.S.

00:36:37.000 troops, but it only came out a month later in the back of the paper.

00:36:40.000 Then you've had Italian, Spanish journalists all brutally executed on the spot, you know, if they filmed anything they weren't supposed to.

00:36:48.000 And then on top of that, of course, the mandatory shutdown of any newspapers who mildly criticized the authorities.

00:36:56.000 Uh, there was this big... Well, that's democracy at its best, Bubba!

00:36:59.000 Yeah, I mean, at the time there was this big thing about, you know, oh look, there are dozens of new newspapers cropping up everywhere.

00:37:06.000 We've given them freedom of the press.

00:37:09.000 Meanwhile, you know, they're bombing media buildings if they refuse to follow these shutdown orders.

00:37:14.000 And then we have a bomb threat of the media's hotel yesterday, and then it turns out it's not a real bomb threat, and our loving military with the Iraqi goons that they've hired are machine-gunning it, Imagine if Al-Syedah was machine-gunning reporters. 0.76

00:37:33.000 Oh, look how barbaric they are!

00:37:35.000 But our government does it, and it's a good thing, Paul.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, and they're doing it because they're about to go into Najaf and level it, like they did in Fallujah, and there will be hundreds of civilian casualties which won't get reported on.

00:37:47.000 And now we've got Iranian journalists coming out and saying that the government of Iran, saying that they have been kidnapped by the government.

00:37:56.000 So, you know, just how many of these disappearing journalists have been the victim of these stage kidnappings?

00:38:04.000 Well, that's the point.

00:38:05.000 You've got some Iraqi security force people who formerly were torture lords in Iran, admittedly. 0.89

00:38:10.000 And you've got old fat guys dressed up, not the normal Muslim radical, all skinny and in shape. 1.00

00:38:16.000 Fat guys stumbling around in what obviously is fake beheading videos. 0.98

00:38:20.000 The body had obviously already been dead, even if it was real.

00:38:23.000 And then it looks just like Abu Ghraib.

00:38:24.000 And guess what?

00:38:25.000 The guy actually worked at Abu Ghraib.

00:38:26.000 And he was in FBI custody and gets released.

00:38:29.000 Oh no, these vicious Iraqis our government's hired, they wouldn't cut somebody's head off to blame it on their enemies, would they Paul? 1.00

00:38:35.000 Well no, and one of the last beheading videos, I think it took place last week, it's hard to keep up with them now, there are so many of these staged kidnaps and beheadings.

00:38:45.000 Well, I personally checked the website from which it was uploaded, and it was based in Pasadena, California.

00:38:51.000 Just like, you know, they're either based in places like California, Texas, or London.

00:38:56.000 They're always uploaded from these locations.

00:38:58.000 Well, they're also uploaded directly from government websites in the facilities up in Arkansas, and then they upload fake videos and it fools people. 0.65

00:39:08.000 I mean, this is getting ridiculous.

00:39:10.000 Yes, I mean from front to back it's about shutting down free speech and any criticism of the government.

00:39:15.000 I mean people are hooded and taken to the camp for, you know, shouting anti-coalition slogans was the statement in the Associated Press.

00:39:23.000 And the shutdown of all this free speech has got nothing to do with preventing dissent, you know, from causing violence.

00:39:29.000 All the violence and most of the car bombings from the evidence that we've looked at Show direct involvement and obviously help the puppet government because it allowed them to pass the martial law provisions the kind of You know where they go into towns and disarm everybody where they felt 9 p.m.

00:39:46.000 Curfews and they had already prepared all these provisions and Before the wave of car bombings escalated.

00:39:53.000 So it only helps the puppet government.

00:39:55.000 And now they've hired Mr. Negroponte, who admittedly ran death squads in Latin America.

00:40:01.000 They're sending this guy over to Iraq.

00:40:04.000 And let me boil something down for the people that are just tuning in.

00:40:08.000 We've been talking about torture forever, because our government's trained the world how to torture.

00:40:13.000 They hired Nazis after World War II to train our troops How to Torture. 0.87

00:40:19.000 That's Congressional, bipartisan reports going back to the 70's.

00:40:24.000 Okay?

00:40:25.000 And so people who want to make excuses about all of this, you're literally with Klaus Barbie and Joseph Mingala now, and then you say, well, we're in a war, we've got to torture.

00:40:35.000 Well, what do you say to the Army's own report saying children and women picked up for not having their papers in order or suspected biscuit thieves or firewood thieves being taken to 32 camps in Iraq for severe torture.

00:40:49.000 But what happened is all these neocons committed themselves on the airwaves to torture being good, and I actually still hear them defending torture to this day.

00:40:58.000 And bottom line, folks, the Pentagon's $6 billion program, P2OG, said it is about getting resistance.

00:41:06.000 It is about having a war. 0.52

00:41:07.000 It's about having a fight.

00:41:09.000 They don't want the Iraqis to love us, which they did, frankly, at first. 1.00

00:41:12.000 Most of them appreciate it.

00:41:14.000 They want it to get bad.

00:41:15.000 They want there to be resistance, because then the war can go on for a decade, like Vietnam, and the globalists can make not hundreds of billions, but over a trillion dollars in the aggregate out of it, and use it as an ongoing crisis and destruction.

00:41:28.000 And that's what you've got to understand.

00:41:31.000 And so to all the people out there that have made excuses that say, oh, go ahead and kill journalists, you know, Reuters reporters on the street or in their hotel. 0.97

00:41:38.000 Go ahead and torture people to death. 0.78

00:41:40.000 What happened to you? 1.00

00:41:41.000 What happened to your soul?

00:41:43.000 To your mind?

00:41:44.000 We're America!

00:41:45.000 We don't act like this!

00:41:46.000 And to begin with, it's not being done to win.

00:41:49.000 It's being done to infuriate and to create more resistance, Paul.

00:41:54.000 Well, that's exactly the point.

00:41:55.000 It's geared towards creating the very civil war which, you know, can then spill over to Iran and give them a pretext to invade Iran. 0.60

00:42:03.000 But on the torture point, we now have this new article which shows us that many of the troops are aware of this and they actually try to prevent it.

00:42:11.000 This article out of the Oregon newspaper where the Iraqi police were caught torturing the prisoners Um, this troop squadron was sent in to, um, basically save the prisoners, but then it was ordered back, ordered to leave, so the torture could continue.

00:42:26.000 Well, it's the same thing with, uh, the female, uh, General Watkilpinski. 0.98

00:42:33.000 She admittedly said, look, don't try to scapegoat me.

00:42:36.000 I was never even allowed in these wings.

00:42:38.000 I tried to stop it and the documents got released.

00:42:40.000 So what they do is they go after somebody who's innocent.

00:42:43.000 So when she's found innocent, then, oh, see, the whole thing must be okay.

00:42:47.000 The private CIA contractors ran these areas. 0.99

00:42:50.000 and they could only find the stupidest, dumbest, former federal prison guard and state guard goons to follow these orders so the CIA could take snapshots, so they could release those photos. 0.99

00:43:01.000 This is part of a more sophisticated double game so the UN can then come in as a savior, Paul. 1.00

00:43:07.000 So we support the troops, folks.

00:43:10.000 We don't support them being put in these positions.

00:43:12.000 Go ahead.

00:43:13.000 Well, again, this Oregon thing points out that, you know, it was coming directly from the top, and we know the name of the program.

00:43:20.000 copper green But then they throw out these fake photographs, like in the British newspaper The Mirror, where those photographs were fake, but in the exact same prison camp and the exact same troop squadron, they did the real torture a week after The Mirror announced that the pictures were fake.

00:43:38.000 And then out of that same unit, troops give them fake photos weeks before, preemptively, to neutralize that.

00:43:45.000 Yes, and with the case with the photos which were put out all over the internet which were nothing to do with Iraq.

00:43:53.000 They were taken from porn websites.

00:43:55.000 The Boston Globe carries them as real.

00:43:58.000 Days after it had been admitted that they were faked.

00:44:00.000 And beforehand, Paul, I looked at them and we put on the site that we thought they were fake.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, well, as soon as we looked at them, we thought they were fake.

00:44:08.000 Because they showed individuals who were obviously not of Iraqi descent being tortured and sexually abused.

00:44:14.000 You know, it was obvious to see.

00:44:16.000 But then the Boston Globe put them out after they'd already known that they were fake, and then publicly apologized the day after.

00:44:22.000 That's right.

00:44:23.000 Two days after it's admittedly fake, Tottenham's story, they publish them and then apologize the next day.

00:44:29.000 This is done on purpose.

00:44:31.000 On purpose, to make people think that, you know, each time this kind of thing happens, that it's fake.

00:44:37.000 It's to put out that feeling.

00:44:38.000 Well, here's an example.

00:44:39.000 I've had arguments with people on the streets.

00:44:40.000 They go, there's no torture, Alex, why do you keep saying it?

00:44:42.000 They admit all that's fake.

00:44:43.000 I go, the Army's own reports, two of them.

00:44:47.000 The Congress went and looked at thousands of photos and videos.

00:44:50.000 It's admitted worse stuff than what we saw.

00:44:54.000 And they just shake their head and go, no, no, no, Alex, I heard it's fake. 1.00

00:44:56.000 You're a commie liar. 0.85

00:44:58.000 It was already out two years previously that the same practices were taking place at Guantanamo Bay. 0.95

00:45:05.000 That's where the program was transferred from, but there was no outcry at that point.

00:45:09.000 They did things, and are still doing things, that we can't even mention on the air, folks.

00:45:13.000 And you dovetail that with the LA Times article from August of 2002, which was entitled, No Leaders of Al-Qaeda Found at Guantanamo.

00:45:23.000 These people are, you know, shoemakers. 1.00

00:45:26.000 You know, stonemasons and people like that.

00:45:28.000 They were just thrown out onto the battlefields, and now they're in those camps to, again, give this perception that real terrorists exist and that we're being protected.

00:45:36.000 Meanwhile, the 8,000 Taliban Al-Qaeda cream, as one special forces colonel said, were loaded on helicopters, flown to airfields, and flown out on C-130s, and even Fox News admits it, but goes, oh, it was just an accident, Paul.

00:45:49.000 You know, they just accidentally loaded 8,000 Taliban Al Qaeda on planes and flew them out. 0.94

00:45:53.000 Let's take calls here.

00:45:55.000 Leslie in Tennessee, thanks for holding her on the air. 0.68

00:45:58.000 Go ahead.

00:45:58.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

00:46:00.000 Alex, I've got a couple of real hardcore questions.

00:46:06.000 What I want to do is just go ahead and just run through this stuff.

00:46:09.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:46:10.000 And then I'll just hang up and let you guys have at it.

00:46:13.000 We have a situation today where we have Tweedledee and Tweedledum for candidates.

00:46:20.000 I mean, these guys are mirrors of each other.

00:46:22.000 And Kerry says he's now for the war even though there's no weapons of mass destruction.

00:46:26.000 You know, we've got two guys that are both members of... they're both bonzers. 1.00

00:46:34.000 They're both white about their military records.

00:46:36.000 One of them went over the wall.

00:46:38.000 The other guy got himself three phony Purple Heart so he could duck out of the active military service over in Vietnam.

00:46:50.000 Well, I'll tell you my answer to this is it doesn't matter.

00:46:52.000 The presidential election is staged.

00:46:54.000 The real focus should be at the county, city, state level.

00:46:57.000 There's no difference between Bush and Kerry.

00:47:00.000 What's your question?

00:47:01.000 Well, my question is this.

00:47:03.000 If we have ourselves in a situation where regardless of The outcome of this election, I really believe that we already have pre-planned terrorist attacks staged to happen probably before the election.

00:47:20.000 And with that in mind, where are we at and what can we really do at this point?

00:47:28.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

00:47:30.000 Good questions.

00:47:32.000 Number one, we can expose who has the motive for the terrorism.

00:47:35.000 The giving up liberty gives us tyranny, not security.

00:47:39.000 That they've done nothing to really keep us safe.

00:47:41.000 The borders are more open than ever.

00:47:42.000 They're releasing hundreds of thousands of felons in South Texas alone that are arrested.

00:47:47.000 Front page of the Houston Chronicle.

00:47:49.000 We've got to educate people that it is the military-industrial complex behind the terror to scare the people into being slaves of the government to be used for a national draft.

00:48:02.000 America is being forged into a weapon of empire and we're being forged by the heat of fear of terrorism, Paul.

00:48:10.000 Well, yeah, and I just find it interesting thinking ahead, you know, after likely Kerry is elected as he's been ordained by the Bilderberg Group and so is Edwards, so...

00:48:21.000 Let's take the presumption that there is no terror attack before the election.

00:48:25.000 Then, at that point, it's likely that Kerry will be elected.

00:48:29.000 And shortly after, you'll see a raft of new wars launched on humanitarian grounds rather than, you know, threat to America grounds.

00:48:37.000 So it will be interesting to see how the left wing react to that.

00:48:41.000 Um, if they, if they support, you know, the humanitarian wars as they did with wars like, you know, the bombing of Serbia, which was crafted totally on a fraud.

00:48:50.000 The Belsen 92 so-called concentration camp footage, um, where it was a Serbian death camp.

00:48:57.000 Actually, it was a refugee camp.

00:48:59.000 So, it'd just be interesting to see how the... And the barbed wire was around, the barbed wire was around the pantry to protect the food.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, and then the people, the film crew were filming outside of the camp, on the other side of the fence.

00:49:13.000 The film crew were inside the camp, but they made it look as if, and they wrote a story, that the prisoners were inside the camp.

00:49:19.000 And the people were up against the fence begging for food, looking in on the inside.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, they singled out one emaciated man who had had a childhood disease which made him emaciated and skinny.

00:49:32.000 And they said, look, they're starving people to death.

00:49:34.000 Let's launch a war. 0.96

00:49:35.000 So it'd be interesting to see how the left react to those kind of provocations.

00:49:39.000 Yeah, Newsweek at the time had that skinny guy with the disease.

00:49:44.000 And then, of course, you see the video later.

00:49:45.000 There's all these fat people on either side of him looking into the fence, begging for food.

00:49:50.000 It was a NATO base protecting itself with barbed wire.

00:49:54.000 Yes, it's just a different circumstance, but it's just as big a lie as weapons of mass destruction.

00:49:59.000 Well then, remember Bill Clinton during the Serb War went down to the Albanian coast of the border with Hillary and Hillary stood there and went, look at the barbed wire, look at the trains.

00:50:09.000 And it was trains coming down, and people begging to be let on them to go back to Serbia, all down there at the fence, locked out of Albania.

00:50:21.000 And they're going, look, barbed wire!

00:50:22.000 It's a camp!

00:50:23.000 And people watch that.

00:50:25.000 They're at the border, looking through the barbed wire, wanting in.

00:50:28.000 It's just incredible.

00:50:29.000 And at the same time, obviously, we have Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda helping them as it's come out publicly now. 0.74

00:50:35.000 So it'll be interesting to see how the left react when we see that cycle of propaganda come around again in 2005.

00:50:41.000 They're gonna love it.

00:50:41.000 They're gonna love all the wars.

00:50:42.000 They're gonna love the Patriot Act.

00:50:44.000 And they're gonna have all the conservatives behind them, too.

00:50:46.000 So-called conservative, Paul.

00:50:48.000 It's all part of the new freedom.

00:50:50.000 You'll all be psychologically tested for mental illness and forcibly drugged as well.

00:50:54.000 I'm not kidding.

00:50:54.000 It's all part of the new freedom.

00:50:55.000 Pressing planet.tv will be right back.

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00:58:42.000 Alright, the second hour is straight ahead.

00:58:46.000 Your phone calls, the news, and Paul Watson and another guest.

00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:18.000 Welcome, my friends, to the second hour of this global transmission.

00:59:22.000 We have the U.S. 0.99

00:59:23.000 military threatening to kill mainstream journalists if they don't pull out of another Iraqi city they're about to blow to bitch. 1.00

00:59:32.000 And we have our own government admitting they've targeted and killed journalists, but We get upset when Al-Qaeda kills journalists, Al-C-I-A-D-A, but not when our own government does it. 0.98

00:59:40.000 We'll be talking more about that.

00:59:42.000 People being harassed by the FBI for political reasons, that's coming up.

00:59:47.000 Paul Watson riding shotgun with us.

00:59:49.000 I do want to take just a few seconds out to thank Stephanie, who runs the broadcast up in Minnesota, up there at the main network, Studio A. I'm down here in Studio Q, you could say, in Central Texas.

01:00:01.000 And I'm just thankful to all the AM and FM affiliates, Global Shortwave Affiliate, WWCR, one of my webmasters online with us, Paul Watson, from the Prison Planet websites, you the listeners, the sponsors, everybody, God bless you, thank you.

01:00:17.000 Of course, thank God, number one.

01:00:19.000 But Paul, let's jam a few calls in here.

01:00:22.000 Michael in Colorado.

01:00:24.000 Oh, Alex, Paul.

01:00:25.000 Yes, go ahead, Michael.

01:00:27.000 Good morning, thanks for taking my call.

01:00:29.000 First of all, I wanted to say great job on Prison Planet TV, Paul.

01:00:32.000 It's a great website and I want to encourage all your listeners to get involved with that.

01:00:35.000 A lot of good information.

01:00:37.000 I want to let you know we're here in Colorado.

01:00:37.000 Thank you.

01:00:40.000 We're working on some of the issues that you talk about on a daily basis, including 9-11.

01:00:45.000 We formed a 9-11 group and we're having a 9-11 town meeting Friday night with special guest speaker Ellen Mariani.

01:00:54.000 And of course, she's one of the widows Our widow were, and we've interviewed her.

01:00:59.000 She knows the government's behind 9-11.

01:01:01.000 And you've got her coming to your town.

01:01:03.000 That's the way to do it.

01:01:04.000 Be highly visible.

01:01:05.000 Have marches.

01:01:06.000 Be mainstream.

01:01:08.000 Until everybody accepts the world is round.

01:01:11.000 If you believe the government wasn't involved in 9-11, you think the world is flat, we've got to be visible.

01:01:16.000 That's the solution to stop the globalists from killing more people.

01:01:19.000 Go ahead.

01:01:20.000 That's right.

01:01:21.000 We're trying to get the word out.

01:01:22.000 We're making copies of videos.

01:01:23.000 We're getting flyers out.

01:01:25.000 We're playing a march on September 11th in downtown Denver.

01:01:29.000 Where is this meeting going to be located?

01:01:31.000 The meeting is going to be at Unity Church in Boulder, Colorado, and the address is 2855 Folsom Road.

01:01:38.000 If they want to get a hold of me, I can give you a website.

01:01:40.000 Yeah, give us the website, but tell us the date and time.

01:01:43.000 Yes, it's going to be Friday night, that's August 20th at 7 o'clock.

01:01:48.000 Okay.

01:01:48.000 And the website where they can get a hold of me if they have any questions is GREELY, and that's G-R-E-E-L-E-Y-D-O-R-D-C, and that stands for the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, and that's at dot org.

01:02:01.000 Alright, or just type into Google, uh, GREELY, Colorado Bill of Rights Defense Committee.

01:02:05.000 Okay, anything else?

01:02:07.000 No, uh, that's all, Alex, and thanks for taking my call.

01:02:09.000 Keep up the good work.

01:02:10.000 Thank you.

01:02:11.000 Uh, Paul, uh, This is really a key part of the solution is every town, every city, every year having a march, saying the government's behind it, having it be right out in the open.

01:02:22.000 More of us standing up is the answer.

01:02:24.000 They can't deal with that, can they?

01:02:26.000 No.

01:02:27.000 Last time I was on the show we were talking about Austin, Texas being a stronghold.

01:02:31.000 People need to rally and make every city around America a stronghold because then that only makes us stronger.

01:02:38.000 It fortifies our movement.

01:02:42.000 Putting on conferences Putting together Patriot Act resolutions, that's the kind of activism that really gets the job done.

01:02:49.000 And it's something you can really sink your teeth to at the same time.

01:02:52.000 And then, there's a willing audience out there.

01:02:55.000 I mean, I went out there and handed out flyers before a Michael Moore showing, and every single person that we talked to had at least some knowledge of 9-11, and the fact that the official story was a myth.

01:03:06.000 So, there's a receptive audience out there, more so than ever before.

01:03:11.000 And we're talking about the future of humanity, of civilization here.

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01:03:28.000 But as Mark Twain said, in the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. 0.81

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01:06:59.000 We had scheduled...

01:07:03.000 A member of the American Friends Service Committee who received a surprise visit from the FBI at her home, Sarah Bradwell.

01:07:15.000 We posted it on the website.

01:07:16.000 I'm sure somebody called him and warned him not to come on.

01:07:18.000 I mean, I wasn't going to attack him.

01:07:20.000 I don't agree with what the Quakers are up to. 0.89

01:07:23.000 I mean, you talk about communist folks.

01:07:27.000 You're looking at it. 0.99

01:07:29.000 But the point here is, is mainly they're a bunch of useful idiot bleeding hearts, because I know some of them here in Austin. 0.98

01:07:35.000 But regardless, why are they getting visits from the FBI? 0.98

01:07:38.000 And I wanted to ask the Quakers, you know, you guys didn't defend the Patriot Movement when Bill Clinton had the FBI crawling all over us for absolutely no reason, and, you know, the FBI and BATF burying pipe bombs in people's backyards.

01:07:50.000 They were caught doing that, by the way, to frame the population.

01:07:54.000 But I will defend your First Amendment and expose what's happening.

01:07:57.000 I mean, we've got Green Party members that can't get on airplanes, no criminal records, 60-year-old women, On the no-fly list. 1.00

01:08:04.000 We've got land rights activists, conservatives who can't fly.

01:08:08.000 And if we let this happen to anybody, it's going to happen to everyone.

01:08:12.000 It's like the left wants to have preachers arrested if they read out of the Old Testament criticizing homosexuality, but they don't want to have their protesters locked up in cages, inside cages, underneath bus stations.

01:08:25.000 Or out on the side of the street, you try to protest George Bush with his 500 pro-Bush supporters, and you get arrested.

01:08:33.000 And then they give you a felony conviction for it.

01:08:36.000 I mean, how is that America?

01:08:38.000 So we'd better all hang together or we'll hang separate.

01:08:41.000 We'd better, all of us, defend the First Amendment, even if you disagree with what somebody's saying.

01:08:46.000 But this attitude of there being no First Amendment is sweeping the country right now.

01:08:51.000 I mean, even here in Austin, Texas, the new AXS TV board, in their own minutes, says, well, we can't have speech anymore that criticizes other groups because that hurts their feelings.

01:09:01.000 Well, you know, you're free to speak as long as you don't hurt someone's feelings.

01:09:04.000 I mean, this is the new attitude.

01:09:06.000 I even hear this from supposed conservative broadcasters that are out there.

01:09:10.000 So 1-800-259-9231.

01:09:11.000 I wanted to get Sarah Bardwell on, and we'll see if we're able to get her. 0.73

01:09:19.000 I rarely have guests drop out on us, but usually it is the leftists who do that.

01:09:25.000 So that's fine.

01:09:26.000 But we've got Paul Watson with us.

01:09:29.000 And we're about to go back to your calls, but Paul, do you have any comments about anarchists, conservatives, liberals, pinkos, across the board, getting government visits, professors being arrested who have no criminal records, who are white guys because they put on an art display with Petri dishes, you know, at the college art display to illustrate the dangers of genetically modified foods.

01:09:51.000 You know, a little science project to illustrate the dangers.

01:09:54.000 They get arrested and charged with the Patriot Act.

01:09:57.000 Comments?

01:09:58.000 Well, it is hideous to contemplate that we're really at the stage where, you know, kids who wear anti-bush t-shirts get a knock on the door from the Secret Service, and the students who grasp them up get rewarded by the principal of the school.

01:10:12.000 And we've got many examples.

01:10:14.000 I mean, the guy who hung an upside-down American flag in his backyard, his neighbours called the police.

01:10:20.000 And then on the left, The anti-war activist in Auckland who sent an email to the U.S.

01:10:26.000 Embassy protesting the Iraq War was charged with misuse of a telephone.

01:10:33.000 You know, people like the young child who did a research paper, the 12-year-old, and the Chesapeake Bay Bridge got a visit from the Joint Terrorist Task Force.

01:10:43.000 So it's across the political spectrum that this is taking place.

01:10:46.000 Well also, that university there in San Francisco, You know, white guy. 0.66

01:10:51.000 Imagine if you were an Arab. 0.99

01:10:53.000 He's in the architecture class, and they hand out the architecture lesson, and they're to go out and sketch four bridges, and so he goes out and does it.

01:11:06.000 Folks, I had art classes where we had to do that.

01:11:08.000 Go sketch architecture, and they come and grab him and question him. 0.92

01:11:12.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, I mean people who refuse to wear, to remove, you know, anti-war t-shirts in a shopping mall are arrested. 0.72

01:11:21.000 It's down the line. 0.95

01:11:21.000 But on the left-right point, the rhetoric at the moment is against people like Muslims and homosexuals. 0.95

01:11:29.000 If Kerry gets in, the rhetoric will switch to be directed against people like pro-lifers and gun rights activists.

01:11:36.000 But the bottom line is that the movement will be the same.

01:11:39.000 And yet now you have people like Bill Clinton out on talk show circuits bashing the Republicans while in every public meeting he's pictured hugging and laughing with Bush Junior and Senior.

01:11:50.000 So, um, the rhetoric will shift and then the left-wingers will overwhelmingly get behind it if Kerry gets in.

01:11:57.000 So, I mean, we're pointing out that it's wrong right across the political spectrum. 0.97

01:12:01.000 Well, also, you know, I listen to the Genesis Network all the time, and I'm about to go to your calls, but I, you know, I never make comments about other shows, but there's a veterans program on on the weekend that I think is a great show, and I've been a supporter of it, but they had some guests on And I heard him out of his mouth say, John Kerry, you know, is a pure evil, big liar, which is true. 0.70

01:12:26.000 Then he said, and I think George Bush is incapable of telling a lie.

01:12:31.000 And I almost called in, but I didn't waste my time.

01:12:33.000 I mean, I wanted to call in and go, he said the biggest amnesty in history isn't an amnesty where they're going to pay to bring the illegals here. 0.52

01:12:41.000 That was in the Washington Times again on Thursday.

01:12:45.000 Of last week.

01:12:47.000 I mean, he's done nothing but lie.

01:12:50.000 Hundreds of giant lies.

01:12:51.000 And here are conservatives, I mean, people I've listened to and heard who know Bush is corrupt and know he's doing all these bad things to the veterans.

01:13:00.000 Suddenly, you know, kind of this group think, oh, we can't let Kerry win, we've got to get behind Bush.

01:13:06.000 That's all psychological.

01:13:07.000 You don't have a dog in this hunt, folks.

01:13:09.000 You don't have a choice.

01:13:10.000 They're going to put in who they want, but they want you to feel like you do and be part of this polarization process.

01:13:17.000 Can you speak to that, Paul?

01:13:19.000 Well, yeah, it's like a sports-like mentality whereby someone will get behind their team and support their team all the way, even if they lose a game every week.

01:13:28.000 So if Bush lies every week, then they're still going to support Bush because they've boiled politics down to that sports mentality.

01:13:35.000 But the guest said, and I want to get his name and get him on, I was driving down the road and didn't have a pen, The guest said, just all worshiping Bush, and Bush is so godly, Bush is so good, he is incapable of telling a lie.

01:13:49.000 Everybody else is capable of it, and are sinners, but not Bush.

01:13:53.000 And I hear more and more of this talk about where he's almost a god or something.

01:13:59.000 Yeah, because he throws out the fake godly Jesus-like rhetoric, which then people pick up on, while at the same time he's visiting Bohemian Grove.

01:14:08.000 So, I mean, it's amazing that they will do that, but as you've said many times in the past, people associate their power with their identified leader, and so then they're not going to go against them, you know, in any short-term

01:14:21.000 situation so that's the situation and it's hard to wake these people up but we need to point out the evidence point out the fact that Bush does lie every week but he's simply reading off a script and reading badly off a script in many cases and point out to them that both the left and the right it's all about rhetoric the agenda remains the same to restrict rights to create a police state a surveillance society while launching wars abroad and I mean the wars coming to our shores so we need to point out that It's all rhetoric and no action.

01:14:51.000 It's the same movement from both sides of the equation.

01:14:57.000 It is, Paul.

01:14:58.000 You're absolutely right.

01:14:59.000 And my point is that six months ago, a lot of conservatives were really waking up the Bush.

01:15:07.000 And now, even some of those people I know are going, yeah, I know he's bad, but Kerry... Folks, again, there is no election.

01:15:14.000 I'm telling you.

01:15:15.000 It's a staged event.

01:15:16.000 They're cousins.

01:15:18.000 They meet behind closed doors.

01:15:19.000 This whole thing is staged.

01:15:23.000 But psychologically it is meant to create that separation in your mind so you think you have a choice.

01:15:30.000 Yeah, it goes back to the old Hobson's choice thing where they set up two phony choices and people think that that is choice.

01:15:38.000 I mean, people will back Bush all the way, but when Kerry gets in, which he probably will, I think the rhetoric will shift against conservatives for the first few months of his presidency.

01:15:48.000 Then you'll see some kind of attack, and then all the conservatives will rally back behind Kerry.

01:15:53.000 And then you'll hear Fox News going, hard to believe, but we've actually got us aboard him.

01:15:57.000 He's gotten tough.

01:15:58.000 This president has transformed himself.

01:16:01.000 Yeah, because they'll roll out the phony patriotism, which is America needs to unite, and it's not about allegiance to America.

01:16:07.000 And then the neocons will actually sit there in their armchairs and go, man, I actually like him.

01:16:13.000 Can't believe I'm saying it.

01:16:14.000 It's about allegiance to the establishment, no matter which party is in charge, and that's exactly what fear creates.

01:16:21.000 It's about uniting America behind the government, not behind America or the ideals of the founders, or what America stands for.

01:16:28.000 It's about uniting America behind the New World Order, whoever's in charge.

01:16:32.000 It's the same policies that get passed each time.

01:16:35.000 That's right.

01:16:36.000 I'm going to go to your calls quick after the break, but let's go ahead and start now.

01:16:36.000 Let's go to calls.

01:16:39.000 Who's up first, Stephanie? 0.94

01:16:41.000 Manuel in Pennsylvania.

01:16:42.000 Welcome, sir.

01:16:43.000 How you doing, Adam?

01:16:44.000 Good, my friend.

01:16:45.000 Okay, now you talk about being vocal out there and up front.

01:16:49.000 When Emperor Bush came to town, we were able to protest him.

01:16:52.000 Media coverage was deplorable, of course.

01:16:53.000 We did line the whole Expo Center, right up to the fringe where he was.

01:16:56.000 Of course, we don't get nowhere near his secure perimeter, but we were out there in the public eye. 0.95

01:17:02.000 His reception by the general public was, at best, lukewarm, although the media had a picture with a caption, York hails the chief, With a picture of a youthful idiot painting on the storefront something to the likes of Welcome Bush. 0.93

01:17:15.000 Although we were able to get out there.

01:17:17.000 I've actually been at protests where there's, you know, a thousand people protesting somebody and there's twenty people there for him and the news will have the front page to twenty people.

01:17:17.000 No, I know.

01:17:27.000 Well, nobody wanted to go see him.

01:17:28.000 They had actually let people rush in through the gates at the last minute because no security checks.

01:17:32.000 Because actually, nobody was able to go, nobody actually wanted to go see him and buy tickets.

01:17:37.000 We also had Chief Moose come down here and we confronted him.

01:17:40.000 He was with our new big-wig West Point graduate commissioner touting some police state policies, telling us all to go to sleep.

01:17:47.000 But my third point, the biggest point, Ann Coulter's extra-militant protege, Michelle Malkin, is now touting a new book where she's calling for civil internment and concentration camps for those who can potentially be deemed terrorists, even if they're American citizens, right here in Oklahoma.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, I want to get Malkin on, and the folks can email me.

01:18:07.000 Guess what?

01:18:10.000 On our local radio show, WSBA here in Central PA, and I will be confronting her also on the airwaves, and I'll make sure a couple of my friends do.

01:18:16.000 We'll run her off the air like she's never seen before.

01:18:18.000 Is she the Chinese lady? 1.00

01:18:20.000 He is of Asian descent.

01:18:22.000 Yeah, I mean, and I've heard about this.

01:18:26.000 She's out touting putting people in camps now.

01:18:29.000 Also, Michael Medved.

01:18:31.000 Manuel, you need to stay there.

01:18:32.000 We'll come back to you, okay?

01:18:35.000 I want to hear exactly what you heard her touting. 1.00

01:18:37.000 The loving camps, the freedom, you disagree with the government, you hate terrorists, you should go to a camp.

01:18:42.000 They're all starting to talk like this because we're beating them with the truth and they can't stand it and they want to be concentration camp gods.

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01:23:00.000 We've had arresting anyone that disagrees with the government.

01:23:03.000 Never forget, almost two years ago, they had the Deputy Attorney General in California, Calhoun, in the Oakland Tribune going, we may ban anti-war protests because protesting the war aids terrorists, we may arrest you.

01:23:19.000 And then they have the neocons out doing it, and yeah, Michelle Malkin, you know, I agree with her on some issues, but then all of a sudden she gets even more hardcore than Coulter, and I have heard about her new book.

01:23:29.000 We're going to try to get her on, but talking to Manuel, Manuel, you heard her talk about the camps, and what did she say?

01:23:37.000 And of course, since she's a person of, quote, color, she's going to be their little poster child.

01:23:42.000 See, I love the camps.

01:23:43.000 It's not just for people of color, it's for everyone.

01:23:46.000 Tell us about it.

01:23:47.000 Well, after she had this Her veneer of legitimacy, as you said, you've agreed with her on certain issues.

01:23:52.000 Now she's exposing her more brazen and anti-American attitudes and philosophies. 0.98

01:23:57.000 So now she brings up the fact that, just because you may be an American citizen, that no longer keeps you safe from patriotic, uh, subsections, which we already knew, but now it's being thrown out there.

01:24:07.000 And she said we too should be put in concentration camps because, hey, it's a new day, folks.

01:24:12.000 Now did she say concentration camps or camps?

01:24:14.000 She said internment camps.

01:24:16.000 Yeah.

01:24:16.000 And also, This all started, sir, with Michael Medved.

01:24:20.000 About two years ago, I was hearing a repeat broadcast, first time I had ever heard the show, where he said that everybody that was at that, of course it was a left-wing, pretty communist-organized rally down in D.C., hundreds of thousands, against the war.

01:24:33.000 He said they're all potential terrorists, and Homeland Security should direct all their focus and energy on them.

01:24:39.000 Yeah, he said the same thing about me, and of course it's not going to be on the commies, it's going to be on the patriots.

01:24:46.000 Thanks for the call.

01:24:48.000 Paul, quick comment on that before we go to Fred and Eric and George and Paul.

01:24:52.000 Well, yes, it's universally agreed now that the internment of the Japanese-Americans was wrong and, you know, that was during World War II when there was at least a semblance of a threat.

01:25:02.000 But now, the justification for it does not exist.

01:25:07.000 I mean, like this reporter who got a job at the Olympics with no questions asked and then spent the opening ceremony planting packages everywhere with a name tag which said Robert Bin Laden.

01:25:17.000 I mean, none of this security is to stop terrorists.

01:25:21.000 If there really were these roaming groups of terrorists who were determined to attack at the levels to which the government scare money... They would shut down the borders and start deporting anybody questionably who was here illegally or had... or who had, you know, not signed their name correctly.

01:25:36.000 Yeah, and on the same level, you'd see small-scale attacks every day.

01:25:40.000 If there were supposed Al-Qaeda cells all over America, you know, it would be worse than Israel. 0.98

01:25:45.000 Yeah, we see the Israeli model, yeah.

01:25:47.000 Somebody could, you know, put a log on a train track, kill dozens of people, and call it a terrorist attack, but that doesn't happen, because there are no terrorists, and the security police state is only designed to affect your life.

01:25:59.000 There's nothing really to defend against, albeit there is from outside the borders, which is why the borders are wide open. 0.99

01:26:06.000 Fred in Philadelphia.

01:26:08.000 Welcome, sir.

01:26:09.000 Alex.

01:26:09.000 Yes.

01:26:11.000 Let me bring up, first of all, I want to endorse Mike and his efforts in Greeley, Colorado.

01:26:19.000 The Bill of Rights Defense Committee is one of the organizations that is correct in getting the facts and in fighting Patriot 2.

01:26:33.000 I would like to get in touch with Mike and Manuel to be honest with you.

01:26:37.000 I think that they're the kind of people that we need to network with.

01:26:42.000 I want to bring up SAIC, that Scientific Applications International Corporation.

01:26:50.000 This is a extremely powerful employee-owned CIA front and they are Now, and have been since about, oh, I would say 03 or 02.

01:27:07.000 In charge of the uh... certification for the election, the deponey elections.

01:27:11.000 No, I know.

01:27:12.000 Look, Bush appoints this new commission, gives them almost five billion dollars.

01:27:17.000 They recommend preparing to suspend the election.

01:27:19.000 They recommend all the electronic voting machines try to force the states to take them.

01:27:23.000 Then the people that are overseeing the elections are known CIA-controlled fronts.

01:27:28.000 Of the five big election companies, three of them are run by former heads or deputy heads of the CIA.

01:27:32.000 The other is run by the former head of the NSA.

01:27:35.000 I mean, and their own employees quit and say it's all a fraud.

01:27:38.000 I mean, it's so transparent, Paul.

01:27:42.000 It's about, as I've said before, making people think that voting is a privilege handed down to them by government.

01:27:50.000 And any God-given right that we already have is a privilege handed down to them by government, which means, obviously at the same time, that government can take away that privilege at any point, which is why they then talk about cancelling the election.

01:28:03.000 And martial law and all the rest of it.

01:28:07.000 Well, did you, I mean, Joyce has mentioned this about the Chuck Hagel election, 96 in 2002.

01:28:15.000 What, briefly, basically, was that a good example or an infamous example of some sort of His total votes just rising suddenly at the end.

01:28:26.000 Did you know about that?

01:28:27.000 Yeah, sure.

01:28:28.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

01:28:29.000 Thanks, Fred.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, Chuck Hagel owned the voting machines that 80% of the people cast ballots on for him.

01:28:34.000 This is the new America. 0.51

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01:33:39.000 I appreciate you coming on because you're going to offer a special to those in Florida or around Florida or areas that were hit who were having problems getting water.

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01:36:21.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on.

01:36:22.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:36:23.000 You bet.

01:36:24.000 I know they sent out several hundred filters.

01:36:24.000 Good to hear from you.

01:36:27.000 uh... to uh... the uh... troops for the war and then of course they had trouble even getting a stone uh... our government likes to ship in the water via haliburton trucks all the way from kuwait and then it's very questionable on the troops get sick because haliburton makes more money that way instead of just giving them water filters but uh... just a side issue one triple eight eight oh three four four three eight Going back to Paul Watson, Fred raised the case of Chuck Hagel.

01:36:55.000 Senator Hagel was behind 15 points in the polls, just like Michael McCaul here in Austin, Texas, who voted on machines that his father-in-law owns, the owner of Clear Channel, Hardin Recivics, a division of Clear Channel.

01:37:07.000 We've got the case of Chuck Hagel, and he was wanting to ask you about that.

01:37:12.000 Were you familiar with it?

01:37:14.000 Not familiar with that case, no.

01:37:16.000 Well, I am, and I already kind of mentioned in the last segment.

01:37:19.000 He was way behind in the polls.

01:37:21.000 The state hadn't gone Democrat in 20 years.

01:37:23.000 I mean, hadn't gone Republican in 20 years.

01:37:27.000 But he owns.

01:37:28.000 I mean, he's not a shareholder.

01:37:29.000 He owned.

01:37:30.000 He's now, quote, divested a part of it.

01:37:33.000 In that election, he owned the machines that 80% of people in the state voted on, and then magically, Paul, despite the poll showing he was going to lose, it was a record landslide.

01:37:45.000 Well, in a sense, they've got both bases covered, because they can just go ahead and cancel it anyway.

01:37:50.000 I mean, we're told that terrorists seek to take measures to ensure the election is cancelled, and then the government says that they're considering cancelling the election, because terrorists seek to cancel the election.

01:38:01.000 So what are they telling you?

01:38:02.000 the terrorists or the government, both the terrorists and the government, want to cancel the election.

01:38:07.000 I mean, what did Hitler do before he was elected?

01:38:10.000 He went around threatening people to vote for him.

01:38:12.000 It's the same thing throughout history.

01:38:14.000 People like Robert Mugabe and Saddam Hussein did the same thing.

01:38:19.000 Well, we also, again, have in Jitnajiv, this is mainstream news, London Telegraph, you name it,

01:38:29.000 Our government is telling the reporters, we're going to kill you if you don't leave, and they give them a fake bomb threat to the hotel, and then our Iraqi security forces start machine gunning the building, and we have a whole section where our troops have been ordered to kill reporters, we're talking BBC, Associated Press folks, but no one's ever held accountable for this, and then meanwhile, the supposed terrorists come out and say, yeah, you better leave or we're going to kill you.

01:38:51.000 So I wonder why our government and the terrorists are on the same page, Paul.

01:38:55.000 Well, they are in every case, because they have the same goals, which is to eliminate freedom.

01:38:59.000 As Bush said, the terrorists attack us because they hate our freedom, and after the attack, the terrorists did indeed take away our freedom, so they're on the same page.

01:39:09.000 Let's go to Eric in Tennessee.

01:39:11.000 Eric, you're on the air.

01:39:12.000 Welcome.

01:39:13.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:39:14.000 Good.

01:39:14.000 How you doing, Paul?

01:39:15.000 Good.

01:39:17.000 What I was calling about, first of all, I wanted to ask you a question, Alex.

01:39:20.000 I sent that tape where Senator Grassley and Janet Reno Had that exchange about the military being involved in Waco and Ruby Ridge.

01:39:27.000 I wondered if you had gotten it.

01:39:29.000 I did get it.

01:39:29.000 I want to thank you and every other listener that sends us videos.

01:39:32.000 Okay, well you're more than welcome.

01:39:34.000 What I want to bring up today to you and Paul was I've read this weekend more articles, especially in conservative newspapers and websites, that the Republican Convention, there's going to be hundreds of thousands of demonstrators come up and they're talking about it being like a Chicago 1968 and I've got just a terrible gut feeling that we might be seeing another Kent State or another Tiananmen Square develop at the end of this month.

01:40:04.000 And I want to get y'all's opinion on that.

01:40:05.000 Well, I'm strongly considering going.

01:40:08.000 You are?

01:40:09.000 Yes.

01:40:10.000 Okay, because, I mean, I've read a few decent articles from WorldNetDaily in the past, but I'm getting worried about their bent and their opinion sometimes.

01:40:22.000 They're already demonizing it.

01:40:23.000 It was an article from the 16th today.

01:40:26.000 Will Republican Convention be a Chicago 68 madhouse?

01:40:30.000 And in that, it's just a demonization of the leaders of different demonstration groups.

01:40:36.000 That they're communists, that they're going to cause problems, that they're anarchists, and it's just going to get out of hand.

01:40:42.000 Okay, let me stop you right there.

01:40:45.000 In my film, The Takeover, we show the police, the newspaper, admitting that the Delta Force They controlled the anarchists.

01:40:53.000 They hired them.

01:40:54.000 They trained them.

01:40:55.000 You saw it.

01:40:56.000 They housed them in a government building.

01:40:58.000 They were sent out to beat up cops, to burn trash cans.

01:41:02.000 50 of them.

01:41:04.000 50 bad guys, 50,000 good protesters.

01:41:06.000 Farmers, ranchers, communists, conservatives, liberals.

01:41:09.000 Everybody against the WTO, World Trade Organization, having more authority over our trade than our Congress.

01:41:15.000 Right.

01:41:16.000 Most averse protest I've ever seen. 0.65

01:41:18.000 And then these 50 anarchists show up, and they openly hit cops in the head with bottles.

01:41:23.000 I mean, there's video of them hitting cops, and the cops are ordered, which I should think would be an illegal order, to take it.

01:41:29.000 I mean, I got cops hitting the ground, and they're told to stand there.

01:41:33.000 Then those guys, after one day of that, the news shooting video, going, what's wrong with these cops?

01:41:37.000 Why don't they do something?

01:41:38.000 They pull back, are guarded by the police, this is on the news, in a government building, giving food and everything else, and then they turn towards the 50,000 who we have on video trying to fight the anarchists, people trying to stop them, going, you're a fed!

01:41:52.000 What are you doing?

01:41:53.000 These are agent revocateurs.

01:41:54.000 The police then, mad because they had to sit there for a day, psychologically manipulated, and some cops were going, why do we protect the guys that did this, but now we're attacking the innocent?

01:42:02.000 They're then released to savagely beat 75-year-old women with clubs, to savagely stomp on young women, to pull cars over randomly.

01:42:11.000 Then they say, free speech is banned.

01:42:14.000 No more free speech.

01:42:15.000 In fact, Stephanie, in my commercial carts, there's an ad for police state to the takeover.

01:42:23.000 Can you find that one and play that in a second?

01:42:25.000 Because it's got some of the clips in it from local newscast folks and others admitting it.

01:42:30.000 Then they put 500 peaceful people in the Sandpoint Naval Brig in a FEMA camp.

01:42:36.000 So, then they took video from Seattle, and cops, you've seen this in your own police departments, the feds come and show it to you, but don't tell you they hired the thugs, and then you go out and they say, you gotta be tough on them, and then you're ordered to attack peaceful people.

01:42:52.000 Now, whereas ten years ago you didn't have problems at protests, now everywhere the cops almost always attack people for absolutely no reason.

01:43:00.000 So could this happen?

01:43:01.000 Absolutely.

01:43:02.000 It'll probably happen because there were going to be hundreds of thousands of people in Boston, just a few thousand showed up because they were afraid.

01:43:10.000 I don't think anything can keep people from showing up at the Republican Convention.

01:43:14.000 And will there be provocateurs?

01:43:15.000 I've been right here in Austin four years ago at the Fortune 500 demonstration With only about 600 people, and here come cops in anarchist outfits starting fights, and I said, these are cops!

01:43:27.000 And cops ran across the street and said, back off, Jones!

01:43:31.000 And they had to admit that they were police.

01:43:33.000 So, that's Paul's comments to what Eric just said.

01:43:39.000 There will be provocateurs because there was an interesting article in the New York Daily News a few weeks ago which said that anarchist groups are going to plant threatening notes on the New York subway to distract the police from focusing on the real protesters on the ground.

01:43:57.000 So obviously that's not going to help their cause.

01:44:00.000 It's a provocateur action because it's going to be a big fear-mongering tool whereby, you know, the subways keep getting searched.

01:44:06.000 And then those guys aren't going to get busted.

01:44:08.000 In some cases, they're police themselves.

01:44:10.000 They're not going to get busted.

01:44:11.000 It'll then be a zit-faced kid in Topeka, Kansas, and they'll arrest him on the news.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, regarding whether there'll be an attack.

01:44:19.000 As I've said before, I think you could take the example of when Bush came over to Britain.

01:44:25.000 There were massive protests, but there was an attack in Turkey which kind of subdued the protest and reaffirmed his rhetoric.

01:44:32.000 So it's more likely you'll see an attack abroad to reaffirm the rhetoric at the convention rather than an attack in New York.

01:44:42.000 I tend to agree with you.

01:44:44.000 Eric, thanks for the call.

01:44:46.000 George in Canada.

01:44:47.000 George, go ahead.

01:44:49.000 Good day, Alex.

01:44:50.000 Shakespeare said it long before we were here.

01:44:50.000 Hello.

01:44:52.000 The world's a stage and every actor plays his part.

01:44:55.000 But the people who write the scripts, they really know how to party.

01:44:58.000 They do.

01:45:00.000 One thing I'd like to bring up, Alex, I was reading in the National Post something that was parroted in the New York Times yesterday, that the United States is going to start pulling troops out of Europe, Japan, and South Korea.

01:45:10.000 Already starting.

01:45:12.000 And, oh, of course, because they need them.

01:45:13.000 They need them badly.

01:45:14.000 Because there's a broader, wider war being planned, I'm sure.

01:45:17.000 The timelines are probably a lie and a cover story that it's going to happen over the next three to four years.

01:45:23.000 But I think you're going to see major, major events happening in the Middle East.

01:45:27.000 There's been warnings from the President about Iran to stop their nuclear plutonium enrichment.

01:45:32.000 Israel's saying that the plant is 90 plus percent done, and the moment it's done, or 95 percent, they're going to bomb it.

01:45:39.000 And the Iranians say that they will fight for every last grain of sand and then some. 1.00

01:45:44.000 So I expect a major conflict there.

01:45:46.000 I would even put a timeline on this.

01:45:48.000 I would expect it before the next election, because Mr. Bush has to do something.

01:45:51.000 Well, I know this. 0.96

01:45:52.000 We've got, uh... Well, Bush is a puppet. 0.67

01:45:55.000 He'll do what he's told to do, but... Uh, we've got, uh...

01:45:59.000 O'Reilly and all the neocons calling it World War III, World War IV.

01:46:03.000 Get ready for it.

01:46:04.000 Gotta have a draft.

01:46:05.000 It's good.

01:46:07.000 And look, if Bush is ordered to stand down by the Bildenbergs to put Kerry in because he can get more done now that they've double-teamed us, that'll happen.

01:46:14.000 Unless there really is a Fisher in the New World Order, then we could see a terror attack by the Bush arm to try to keep him in office. 0.60

01:46:22.000 But again, they control the voting machines and the new voting commission that put them in.

01:46:27.000 So I don't know what's going to happen.

01:46:28.000 Paul, what's your gut level?

01:46:31.000 Well, it's interesting that obviously they're gearing up this attack on Iran because obviously Russia have supplied the majority of the nuclear components for Iran to develop that nuclear program.

01:46:42.000 But at the same time, we have the BBC article which described the UK government's contribution to that same program and described it as a shopping blitz.

01:46:54.000 Also, we've caught Israel selling components to Iran.

01:46:57.000 Why would they do that?

01:46:58.000 And then selling components, U.S.

01:46:59.000 components, to China, who they know openly gives it to Iran.

01:47:03.000 Why would Israel do that? 0.96

01:47:05.000 And then at the same time, China threatening to invade Taiwan in 2005 or 2006.

01:47:11.000 And I think we're going to see that.

01:47:13.000 I think you're going to see America tied down in the Middle East on purpose, and they're going to let China take that. 0.96

01:47:19.000 And then through the heightened fear with China, we're going to have to have that draft, Paul.

01:47:23.000 And frankly, I hope that's the scenario they go with.

01:47:25.000 It's better than nuking a city to get us all behind this.

01:47:29.000 I think you'll see nuking the city, Alex.

01:47:31.000 I'm going to cover that next hour.

01:47:33.000 We'll get Paul's take on it.

01:47:34.000 I want to keep him a little bit into the next hour with us.

01:47:36.000 On American Hiroshima is possible. 0.98

01:47:38.000 This is out of the Seattle Post-Intelligence, sir, but it was written out of the New York Times.

01:47:44.000 Just out of control.

01:47:46.000 Anything else, George?

01:47:47.000 Well, there are two signs to a state in decline from an old Austrian political science book I read.

01:47:52.000 One, ministers do not take responsibility for their actions.

01:47:56.000 And two, you put your party before your country.

01:47:58.000 Don't put your party before your country.

01:48:00.000 Vote for your country.

01:48:02.000 Vote for the other alternatives.

01:48:03.000 All right.

01:48:04.000 Thanks for the call.

01:48:05.000 Well said.

01:48:06.000 Let's talk to Paul in Delaware.

01:48:09.000 Paul, you're on the air.

01:48:10.000 Go ahead.

01:48:11.000 Hi, Alex.

01:48:13.000 Hi, Paul.

01:48:13.000 I really enjoy your work, man.

01:48:15.000 I like your analysis today, and I really want to hear more of you, Paul Watson, on the show, and I appreciate the website, PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:48:24.000 And also, I want to give a shout-out to Manuel, who's also doing a good job.

01:48:28.000 Now, I want to comment to the communist that didn't come on your show.

01:48:34.000 I have the same problem, and you do, with Sean Hannity, also, besides the communist.

01:48:39.000 People don't want to debate you because they don't like your attitude or your spirit or, oh, you might get weird on them or something like that.

01:48:47.000 So I would really like you, Alex, or someone like you that really knows your subjects, and you know every little juicy detail about everything.

01:48:54.000 I don't know everything.

01:48:56.000 Well, you don't know everything, but you do know a lot of different issues going on.

01:49:01.000 I'm just surprised that you haven't covered, and it's old news, whether we went to the moon or not, and I really wish Before you get off the phone right now, don't talk about me because the call's not about me, it's about the issues.

01:49:14.000 So I would like to tell, tell, ask you, what do you know about James M. Colyer and his work on the moon and his book Vote Scam, The Stealing of America?

01:49:26.000 Well, we've got to end this segment, but I'll comment on it when we get back.

01:49:30.000 I mean, I think Mr. Collier did great work.

01:49:32.000 I know his information about the voting is dead on.

01:49:33.000 I've interviewed his daughter and him before he died many, many times.

01:49:38.000 So to show my ignorance, I didn't even know he'd done something on the moon.

01:49:43.000 But we'll be right back, and I guess we can talk about the moon.

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01:53:08.000 The federal government, run by complete criminals, has been caught planting hundreds of false news stories, putting out fake terror alerts, is now leaking the threat of nuclear terrorism and saying Al-Qaeda has a 10 megaton

01:53:24.000 nuclear device or atom bomb, primitive bomb, and that they're sure to detonate it in America, and the whole thing is codenamed Dragonfire, and that they're planning to use it.

01:53:38.000 And that's why Dick Cheney spent off and on the last two years inside our bunker.

01:53:45.000 Anytime Bush is at the White House, Cheney is inside our bunker.

01:53:49.000 Of course, it turned out he's not really inside our He's had so many heart problems he's been spending most of the time at hunting lodges in Wyoming and Utah and Montana.

01:54:00.000 So it's just a bunch of propaganda.

01:54:03.000 But we know Cheney will be in the bunker when there's a big attack.

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01:54:08.000 We're going to end the shower here in a minute and go Back to your calls and then into this story and a bunch of other news.

01:54:17.000 Paul, I want to plug your book and my book here in just a second, but first off, what's some of the other news you want to cover, not just this Dragonfire situation in the next hour?

01:54:26.000 I think we need to cover the further comments of Porter Goss about the domestic involvement of the CIA, especially in light, now we know, of this bill he was behind back in June, which basically Open the doorway for that exact process to take place.

01:54:44.000 A domestic CIA quote in his bill arresting Americans.

01:54:49.000 You have the AP article posted on both sides.

01:54:52.000 Yes, I mean, why did he say big brother or dead brother when he's supposed to be the director of the CIA, which operates abroad?

01:54:59.000 Okay, and then briefly, and we'll get into details on that in the third hour, but the Moon situation, I mean, this caller every week begs me to talk about this, and I'm going to get some gusts on about it.

01:55:09.000 I just really, overall, see it as a distraction.

01:55:12.000 You can't prove it any other way.

01:55:13.000 If you disagree with me, though, tell me.

01:55:16.000 Well, I would say that the official record that we were shown is a hoax.

01:55:22.000 I think we've been to the moon because technology is 50 years advanced of what we know, but I've got a 6-hour video which is a scientific presentation of the evidence.

01:55:31.000 I mean, strings pulling the astronauts up off the ground when they fall over, you know, the astronauts opening their visors up and laughing.

01:55:38.000 There were reports which were in newspaper articles in Australia where people saw, during the live feed, coke bottles roll across the moon's surface, the inability to get past the Van Allen radiation belt in what amounted to a tin can, using the same background landscapes when they were supposed to be on entirely different parts of the moon.

01:55:58.000 No, I've seen it.

01:55:59.000 It's stunning evidence and we'll cover that then.

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01:58:27.000 We're going to get into nuclear blackmail by El Siaida, and the Global is trying to scare us into preparing for that. 0.99

01:58:34.000 Yes, I just wanted to add a couple of auxiliary comments to what you were discussing regarding that turkey, Chuck Hagel.

01:58:39.000 as if they weren't already in your life with the scourge of drugs they bring us.

01:58:43.000 So that's coming up.

01:58:45.000 But right now let's go back to the calls.

01:58:48.000 Rodney in Texas, you're on the air globally.

01:58:50.000 Go ahead.

01:58:51.000 Yes, I just wanted to add a couple of auxiliary comments to what you were discussing regarding that turkey chuck Hagel.

01:58:58.000 Last month when you had Bev Harris on your program, the Baltimore Sun reported that the same machines that tricky Chuck Hagel used to manipulate the elections in Nebraska are the same machines, the same exact machines that were sold to Julio Chavez and they have the ability the same exact machines that were sold to Julio Chavez and they have the

01:59:24.000 And it wouldn't surprise me if Leo Chavez used the same tricks that Chuck used to get himself elected there.

01:59:33.000 Now, I just want to move on to something that I read in the Kansas City Star.

01:59:38.000 Let me just stop you for a minute.

01:59:39.000 What is wrong with someone owning the voting machines that everyone votes for them on?

01:59:43.000 Well, according to Bill... I mean, that sounds like freedom to me.

01:59:46.000 When the candidate owns the company, runs, is way behind the polls, but magically wins.

01:59:52.000 That sounds like freedom to me, sir.

01:59:54.000 He's also a Bilderberg Group member.

01:59:56.000 He's a very good person.

01:59:57.000 Well, and let me add one other thing that Bill Harris also mentioned.

02:00:01.000 He failed to disclose the fact that he had a serious conflict of interest in owning these machines prior to the elections.

02:00:08.000 Well, that's freedom, sir, but he might be without a cut.

02:00:11.000 How dare you ask questions about the election.

02:00:13.000 You shouldn't do that.

02:00:14.000 That's evil.

02:00:14.000 You think this is America or something?

02:00:17.000 But this is the New World Order.

02:00:20.000 But your next comment about Kansas City?

02:00:22.000 Yeah, the Kansas City Star reported, and this is in harmony with something that you said earlier about Calhoun out of California making some statements about anti-protest marches should be, what, arrested or something like that?

02:00:35.000 Yeah, the Democrats love the neocons, yeah.

02:00:37.000 Yeah, if you go to the Nation and World section of the Star News today, it was, and I think you may have had this lady on your program, Denise Lieberman from the ACLU, Sid mentioned that there were three protesters pursued for three days basically dogged because they had planned on attending the protest up in Boston.

02:01:01.000 Yes.

02:01:02.000 Dogged for three days by the FBI on the, well they claimed that they were possible terrorists according to the story.

02:01:15.000 To prevent these young men from attending that protest, they issued subpoenas to them.

02:01:21.000 So on the day they were to attend the protest, they couldn't because they had these subpoenas.

02:01:26.000 And again, that just sets the precedent to do this to everybody.

02:01:28.000 The real anarchists work for the feds.

02:01:30.000 Thanks for the call.

02:01:31.000 Comments, Paul?

02:01:32.000 Well, picking up back on the Chavez vote fraud point, we got the article on PrisonPlanet.com, Venezuela's Chavez claims victory, foes cry fraud.

02:01:44.000 It's not unimaginable that he would do that, but at the same time we know that the CIA has planned on several occasions coups to remove Chavez.

02:01:52.000 They've done kidnapping before.

02:01:53.000 Yeah, they've been caught funding the opposition, the protesters against him.

02:01:59.000 So we know Chavez is independent of the New World Order in terms of he doesn't want Venezuela to be a part of it, but that doesn't Preclude that he could carry out fraud within his own country.

02:02:10.000 So you can kind of look at that from two perspectives, but it is possible.

02:02:15.000 Very possible.

02:02:16.000 Good points, Rodney, Chris, Steve, Paul, Keith and others.

02:02:21.000 We're going to go to your calls quickly, then into nuclear blackmail and much, much more.

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02:02:46.000 And the behavior of our police is a reflection of our government.

02:02:49.000 One look in the mirror and we know our country is entering a high-tech police state.

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02:06:16.000 Continuing with the news and information, let's go back to the calls.

02:06:20.000 Let's talk to Chris.

02:06:21.000 Chris, where are you calling us from today?

02:06:24.000 California.

02:06:25.000 Welcome.

02:06:26.000 How are you doing today?

02:06:27.000 Good.

02:06:28.000 Hey, I wanted to touch on a story I saw in the Los Angeles Times on August 7th.

02:06:34.000 It says, uh, unmanned aircraft gaining the Pentagon's confidence.

02:06:41.000 It's all about this aircraft called the Global Hawk.

02:06:45.000 And what I found interesting... Well, Global Hawk is a control system for unmanned aircraft and they say by 2010, 80% of the fighters are going to be unmanned and within 20 years there's going to be almost nothing except troop carriers that have people on board.

02:07:02.000 And again, you're going to have just a few globalists that can literally, and I'm not talking about the movie I, Robot, folks, or Isaac Asimov.

02:07:09.000 I mean, in reality, droid armies, this is what everything is shifting to.

02:07:15.000 And again, they're not artificially intelligent robots or aircraft.

02:07:20.000 They are remote control pre-programmed, and a program can be put into them to attack hundreds or even thousands of targets, then they launch these droid armies, and then it just takes a few globalists to literally wreak havoc.

02:07:35.000 And as things get more and more robotic and controlled, this is going to give the globalists just total mastery to where even if their own minions don't follow orders, they're going to be able to shut off water supplies.

02:07:49.000 Shut down cities, bring in... They've got these little mini armored tanks that are remote controlled.

02:07:55.000 All of this stuff to be unleashed upon us is like something out of T2 or something.

02:07:59.000 But go ahead sir.

02:08:00.000 I'll tell you what I found chilling is there's actually a picture of a lieutenant colonel.

02:08:08.000 He's one of the people that controls it.

02:08:11.000 And the patch he has on his arm Is a circle with a triangle inside of it, and then inside of the triangle is a skull with crossed bones.

02:08:26.000 It was just kind of chilling to me when I saw that.

02:08:29.000 Well, don't you know the good guys wear skulls?

02:08:31.000 I mean, that's part of freedom.

02:08:33.000 Why don't you email me that LA Times story and we'll get it posted.

02:08:37.000 Okay, I'd love to.

02:08:38.000 Can I ask you one other quick question?

02:08:40.000 Can I ask you a question first, though?

02:08:41.000 Yes, sir.

02:08:42.000 Paul, what's the best email address for him to send that story?

02:08:47.000 Well, just go to PrisonPlanet.com and click on Email Webmaster.

02:08:50.000 That's the best address to send it to.

02:08:52.000 Okay.

02:08:53.000 Stop interrupting, Chris.

02:08:53.000 Go ahead now.

02:08:56.000 I was wondering just how many members of Bush's cabinet are Skull and Bones members?

02:09:04.000 The new head of the Federal Commission that oversees the finances, he's Skull and Bones.

02:09:15.000 The first party he had at the White House was the Skull and Bones reunion.

02:09:19.000 I believe four members of his man cabinet are Skull and Bones and I believe total eight people in the administration are, but I don't have those numbers in front of me.

02:09:28.000 Paul, do you have that in front of you?

02:09:30.000 No, the quote I remember reading was that he appointed ten key individuals to key members of the military and the government.

02:09:38.000 So it's somewhere between eight and ten that were Skull and Bones.

02:09:43.000 So there's your answer.

02:09:46.000 Okay.

02:09:47.000 On another note, I'm an artist and I've started making pictures and I think sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.

02:09:55.000 And if people would just type in Tokapelli, you know, into Google or something, Google T-O-K-A-P-E-L-L-I, then they can get to my site and see a lot of stuff I've been doing that's Trying to wake people up, you know, because this stuff is really happening.

02:10:15.000 I'm Terry.

02:10:18.000 I hear you.

02:10:19.000 Keep it up and take care.

02:10:21.000 Steve, Steve in Oregon, you're on the air.

02:10:23.000 Welcome.

02:10:24.000 Or Georgia, excuse me. 0.82

02:10:25.000 Yeah, Atlanta, Georgia.

02:10:26.000 Hey, Alex.

02:10:27.000 Hello.

02:10:28.000 What the Gulf War story you have posted today, do you think that depleted uranium, I don't see a lot of confirmation on that.

02:10:38.000 Do you think that's for real?

02:10:39.000 Number one, I think your phone's having a little bit of a problem.

02:10:41.000 Can you speak up for me, please?

02:10:44.000 Yeah, did you think that the depleted uranium is for real?

02:10:49.000 All the effects that it has?

02:10:51.000 Do I think it's for real?

02:10:52.000 Yeah.

02:10:53.000 You say you haven't seen a lot of evidence?

02:10:56.000 No, not really.

02:10:56.000 I've seen only just a couple of stories.

02:10:58.000 Okay.

02:10:59.000 Paul, do we have a depleted uranium section somewhere on Prism Plant?

02:11:05.000 I don't believe so at the moment, but we can certainly... Yeah, I keep saying I want a fluoride vaccine, depleted uranium, you know, toxic section.

02:11:11.000 I know we have the vaccine fluoride area, but I want to... I know you're working hard.

02:11:15.000 I want to expand that.

02:11:17.000 Sir, we have interviewed Dr. Rocky twice.

02:11:21.000 He's been interviewed a bunch on this network.

02:11:23.000 He literally wrote the book in the 80s and 90s on DU.

02:11:29.000 It was recommended that it only be used in key situations in open country against specific heavy line battle tanks in an emergency war against the Soviets.

02:11:41.000 That is the only time you use it in the A-10 war hogs and in the Abrams tanks in tank battles when Eastern Europe is being overrunning into Western Europe.

02:11:53.000 It is an emergency nuclear war type weapon and so they used it in the 1991 Gulf War, which they weren't supposed to, then they used it yet again in Serbia, And now they have used it in desert dust too. 0.65

02:12:13.000 Now listen to me, this is the facts.

02:12:16.000 The heavy metal nature of it alone, it is a super toxic metal, more toxic than mercury or lead.

02:12:24.000 It aerosolizes on contact, and now it's not just in the Abrams sabot rounds, it's not just in the Warthogs, it's now in the heavy and medium machine guns on Bradleys, it's in the Bradley cannon rounds, it's even being deployed to some of our troops and for anti-personnel operations to shoot through enemy's armor, and when it hits a target it aerosolizes, sir.

02:12:50.000 When it hits a hard target.

02:12:52.000 And Dr. Rocky was hired to go over there and clean it up. 1.00

02:12:55.000 And his unit, most of his unit has died.

02:12:57.000 He's had cancer multiple times in his sinuses and into his lungs.

02:13:02.000 He's barely hanging on right now.

02:13:04.000 He wrote the book on it.

02:13:06.000 It's an 8 hour training video and a 200 page pamphlet.

02:13:09.000 He literally wrote the book, studied it at Los Alamos.

02:13:12.000 And it's deadly from the heavy metal side as well.

02:13:16.000 Then they tried to deny all this and the New York Daily News What, six months ago, did blood test of the troops.

02:13:25.000 Everyone that they tested wasn't a hypochondriac.

02:13:28.000 They all had up to two rims of uranium in them, which is highly radioactive, and the heavy metal, and were dead and dying.

02:13:36.000 So, yes sir.

02:13:38.000 Depleted uranium is serious, serious business.

02:13:42.000 Iraqi children are three times more likely to be born deformed.

02:13:47.000 The government's own numbers, Gulf War troops are three times more likely to have deformed children.

02:13:52.000 So, Paul comments to what he just said.

02:13:55.000 Yeah, the caller's referring to an article on PrisonPlanet.com out of Life Magazine.

02:14:01.000 It's an eight-page article.

02:14:03.000 The tiny victims of Desert Storm.

02:14:05.000 When our soldiers risked their lives in the Gulf, they never imagined that their children might suffer the consequences or that their country would turn its back on them.

02:14:12.000 And it's a case of a young boy who doesn't have arms.

02:14:16.000 He's got hands coming out, you know, of his shoulders.

02:14:18.000 mirroring the horrible pictures of the Iraqi children which, you know, points out the fact that our soldiers' children are also suffering from the same horrible effects.

02:14:27.000 Oh, it just so happens Serbia's deformities have trebled. 0.96

02:14:30.000 Yeah, I mean, there was an article a few months ago in Iraq where they didn't clean it up, they simply, you know, covered it over with soil.

02:14:38.000 Now, let me explain this.

02:14:40.000 In the first Gulf War, we conservatively used What was this thing like 3,000 times?

02:14:47.000 This time it's 10 times more.

02:14:50.000 And in the first Gulf War, though they shouldn't have even used it, they did use it where there's, you know, in the theater they're supposed to.

02:14:56.000 A tank battle.

02:14:58.000 And it was out in the middle of nowhere.

02:14:59.000 And so just our troops hauling away the wreckage and civilian contractors got sick.

02:15:05.000 And some areas of Kuwait City, people have become ill.

02:15:07.000 But it was used in limited areas.

02:15:09.000 This time, our government bombarded all the major cities, all the major police bunkers and government facilities, power plants, you name it.

02:15:17.000 And guess where our troops moved in?

02:15:19.000 This is in the newspaper.

02:15:21.000 After we took over, they moved the troops in to the airport and the barracks and the palace, and it said they just came in with trucks and dumped some dirt on top of it.

02:15:31.000 So if it's so good for you, why'd they even do that?

02:15:34.000 The point is, you're not even supposed to use this in built-up areas.

02:15:37.000 You're not supposed to use this on buildings.

02:15:40.000 And the journalists that were in Iraq to investigate it, such as the Japanese journalists, were of course subject to kidnappings and they were threatened to be beheaded and then they were deported back home without ever having the opportunity to conclude their investigation.

02:15:53.000 And now they don't even have LCIA to kidnap people for the CIA.

02:15:56.000 Our government just openly says in the London Telegraph and Associated Press, leave the hotel, we're about to bombard your town or we're going to kill you journalists.

02:16:05.000 And they open fire with machine guns on the hotel and say leave.

02:16:10.000 So now they're not even covering it up, Paul.

02:16:12.000 No, well, they've shut down most of the media.

02:16:16.000 They feel that, you know, not much of it will leak out anymore.

02:16:19.000 I mean, picture this.

02:16:20.000 Western journalists, British journalists, American journalists in a hotel.

02:16:25.000 Again, police tell journalists, leave Najaf or be shot.

02:16:29.000 And they just walk up with our troops backing up the Iraqi Security Force and on a bullhorn said, get out of the building.

02:16:35.000 You have six hours.

02:16:37.000 And they just open fire with machine guns into the windows.

02:16:40.000 Well, it's just like in Russia where anyone who criticizes Putin has gunned down any journalist who's gunned down on the side of the street and no questions are asked.

02:16:49.000 But Putin says the war's good and is our new buddy.

02:16:52.000 Oh, but he accidentally lost some nukes that Al-Qaeda's got now. 0.95

02:16:57.000 Does that answer your question, Steve?

02:17:00.000 Well, I was wondering whether there's not more state-spied media coverage on the effects of the troops.

02:17:07.000 Well, I mean, it's been, it's there.

02:17:10.000 We ought to have a transcript made of that Rocky interview.

02:17:12.000 Paul, is that Rocky interview a free play?

02:17:14.000 Can people find that on the site?

02:17:16.000 I believe it is free play, yeah, if you go back in the archive.

02:17:19.000 Yeah.

02:17:20.000 Alright.

02:17:22.000 Thank you.

02:17:22.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:24.000 We're just going to take three more calls, because I've got news I want to cover with Paul.

02:17:28.000 We'll talk to Paul, we'll talk to Keith, we'll talk to Dan, when we get back, and then I'm going to get into the nuclear blackmail and all the other news.

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02:22:01.000 But before we do that, we're just going to take three more.

02:22:04.000 Paul and Don and John.

02:22:07.000 Sorry to others, but we've got to get to some other news here.

02:22:11.000 You know, the last caller, Steve in Atlanta, Georgia, had a good point, Paul.

02:22:16.000 How can our troops be breathing GU, which the Army's own manuals and training materials say is deadly?

02:22:24.000 How can they be living in barracks that were bombarded with it?

02:22:27.000 How can they be coming down ill and it's in the back of the newspaper? 0.98

02:22:31.000 And then the people who speak out against it get shouted at and going, you comey, shut up!

02:22:37.000 I mean, it's just, if you support the troops, you should be against this being used.

02:22:42.000 This was developed as an experimental weapon.

02:22:48.000 During the 70s and 80s in the Cold War for emergencies and stockpiled in Europe in case the Soviets launched a heavy armored attack in front of nuclear strikes to capture Berlin and Paris and other areas.

02:23:02.000 It was not meant to be used all over the globe in these police actions, these takeovers.

02:23:08.000 But they're doing it, and our troops are dead and dying from it, and that's not debatable.

02:23:13.000 So yes, it is incredible.

02:23:14.000 How in the world do they do this?

02:23:16.000 Well, how do they damage millions of children with mercury-containing vaccines?

02:23:20.000 When they get caught doing it, they increase the level of it, according to Congress's investigator, Dr. Geyer.

02:23:27.000 Paul?

02:23:28.000 Well yeah, in Britain they've said we're removing the triple jab vaccine, which may have contained mercury due to, you know, opposition pressure.

02:23:37.000 But what are they going to replace it with?

02:23:39.000 Five jabs for babies who are, you know, barely weeks old.

02:23:43.000 So it's just taking a level of tyranny even deeper.

02:23:46.000 But with the troop situation, people can't make the differentiation between supporting the government and supporting the troops.

02:23:54.000 If you don't support the government, then you're against the troops, because people can't hold more than one thought in their head at the same time.

02:24:00.000 Which is why people are blind to the fact, you know, the photographs of Donald Rumsfeld handing over the biologicals to Saddam in 83 and 84, which later rained down on our troops.

02:24:12.000 After our government blew up the bunkers to cover up the evidence.

02:24:15.000 Yep.

02:24:16.000 We got the video, U.S.

02:24:18.000 marked chemical bioweapons.

02:24:20.000 And because we're against selling Saddam chemical bio-weapons, we're anti-patriotic.

02:24:24.000 I mean, how does that make sense, folks?

02:24:27.000 I mean, if our government declared war on volcanoes and said, let's dump thousands of troops down the mouths of volcanoes, we would be for the troops being against that policy.

02:24:39.000 Well, many of the troops are.

02:24:40.000 I mean, we have stories about them throwing over the side of Both, you know, anthrax vaccines and things like this, where the enforcers can try and give them these commands, but if they see that they're literally, you know, out-of-bounds insane orders, then just like this Oregon unit that tried to stop the torture and were then ordered off, in many cases they will not follow the orders.

02:25:04.000 And good for them!

02:25:06.000 Good for them!

02:25:06.000 And I've heard neocons now calling them traitors!

02:25:09.000 How dare them not torture small children! 0.53

02:25:12.000 Well, who was it?

02:25:12.000 Was it Britt Hume that said that the families of the troops who spoke out against the war, they were traitors as well, and the troops were traitors.

02:25:19.000 So, I mean, yeah.

02:25:22.000 But then that fat belly, he doesn't go off and fight.

02:25:26.000 None of them do.

02:25:28.000 Yeah, none of them do.

02:25:29.000 Let's talk to Paul in Maryland.

02:25:30.000 Paul, go ahead.

02:25:32.000 Yes, hello, Alex.

02:25:33.000 Yes, sir.

02:25:33.000 I listen as much as I can.

02:25:36.000 KDI, WKDI over in Denton, Maryland.

02:25:39.000 Great.

02:25:41.000 Unfortunately, you're not on a station over near to Baltimore, Washington.

02:25:46.000 That station's hard to get.

02:25:47.000 I have a DC radio that pulls it in real good.

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02:25:56.000 It's a great station and covers millions and millions of people.

02:25:59.000 We want to thank them and all other affiliates.

02:26:02.000 Right.

02:26:04.000 One of the major reasons I was calling was I support Michael Peruca, the Constitution candidate.

02:26:10.000 I keep meaning to get him on, you know.

02:26:13.000 And his website, can I mention his website?

02:26:15.000 Sure you can.

02:26:16.000 It's peruca2004.com, that's P-E-R-O-U-T-K-A.

02:26:22.000 And he puts out a weekly email, or more often than that, as the situation warrants.

02:26:30.000 I was wondering if you would like me to forward that email to you.

02:26:33.000 I've actually gotten it, and I've heard Mr. Perutka on other broadcasts.

02:26:36.000 He's a great guy.

02:26:37.000 I think he'd make a great president.

02:26:39.000 Right, and I have found that when I call to the syndicated and What she's called mainstream conservative shows around here, radio shows.

02:26:52.000 They are not at all interested in hearing anything about Michael Pollan.

02:26:52.000 Yes.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, and by not giving proper attention to third world, to a third world, yeah we're a third world country, to third party candidates, they never get any power.

02:27:04.000 We could have a third or fourth or fifth party in this country, but we won't because the media won't do it.

02:27:10.000 And my question is, since you're a media man, how do we crack that conservative Well, they're not conservative.

02:27:22.000 You mean the neokinds. 1.00

02:27:23.000 Why won't they let a real conservative like Mr. Pernukov... We'll talk about it when we get back.

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02:30:55.000 Another ragtag man Declaring independence They laid their bodies down Laid their bodies down On a bloody war Like liberty for their descendants Thanks to the renegades We're free today We're free today Thank you. 0.94

02:31:23.000 How in the world are we letting the globalists destroy our freedoms in the name of some war against enemies they've created?

02:31:32.000 To answer Paul's question in Maryland, how do we get around the two-party system?

02:31:37.000 I mean, look, we've got to keep our vote in place to begin with.

02:31:40.000 We've got to get these electronic voting machines removed from the 32% of the country they've been put into.

02:31:46.000 We've got to block it going into other areas, which you can do now.

02:31:49.000 People know that there's a, quote, problem with the machines.

02:31:53.000 A lot of people know that they're a total fraud.

02:31:55.000 We've got to defeat that.

02:31:57.000 And we have got to develop and strengthen our own alternative media, which is happening.

02:32:02.000 45% of people in major studies have now left the mainstream media.

02:32:05.000 That's why they're panicking right now and trying to carry out terror attacks, in part to get you back into the mainstream.

02:32:11.000 This is all part of a corralling process.

02:32:12.000 So there is a renaissance and awakening against it.

02:32:15.000 But they're turning the heat up to counter that.

02:32:17.000 We're in a knock-down, drag-out fight here.

02:32:20.000 I personally say forget the presidential election.

02:32:23.000 I think people like Michael Peruca are good because they're out traveling, educating people, giving folks alternative views.

02:32:28.000 But the mainstream media just ignores them, which defeats a lot of the purpose.

02:32:32.000 But I think locally you can have a bigger effect running for office.

02:32:36.000 Who knows, maybe even be secret about what you really believe.

02:32:39.000 That may be how you have to get elected.

02:32:41.000 Literal moles, you know, trying to get into office.

02:32:46.000 I'm not saying lie, but just don't be totally specific on some of the things you plan to do.

02:32:50.000 And then once you get in, you know, that's what they do.

02:32:52.000 They lie and say they're good and then get in their bad.

02:32:55.000 We have to just kind of leave it, oh, get into office and then do the right thing.

02:32:59.000 Paul, do you get where I'm going with all of this?

02:33:02.000 Yeah, I mean, the call mentioned how we can support third party candidates.

02:33:07.000 In a sense, it's a shame that Aaron Russo didn't get the Libertarian party nomination because he already had the kind of high profile which would automatically get him into those situations whereby his platform would be quite large and he had a good policy base.

02:33:22.000 But on the flip side, I mean, the Libertarian guy that's in there, Badnarek, He's actually quite good on the issues, although he'll avoid the issue on abortion.

02:33:32.000 He has worked hard to get that nomination, and he travels the country teaching constitutional classes.

02:33:38.000 So, um, either way, I think they got a good man in there, whether it would have been Rousseau, but in bad Narek, I mean, if you can give him a good platform, then he's solid on the issues.

02:33:48.000 Other than abortion, which is a big one. 0.54

02:33:51.000 Yeah, I think, as you said, privately, some people don't espouse their beliefs because it may help them get nominations or get into office and I think that's the case with Badnarek.

02:34:00.000 I think if you asked him privately, he wouldn't be against abortion, but publicly... Oh, no, Michael, he's from Austin.

02:34:06.000 I mean, he's been on my TV show and...

02:34:09.000 He's a good guy, but I don't agree with him on that.

02:34:11.000 I like Mr. Perutka.

02:34:13.000 I think he's great, but unfortunately there's no infrastructure.

02:34:16.000 We just have to build that infrastructure.

02:34:18.000 Real quick, I've got to move faster because I've got news I want to cover with Paul about the CIA and Goss and the rest of it and the nuke situation.

02:34:26.000 Don in Tennessee, go ahead.

02:34:28.000 This is Dan.

02:34:29.000 I can't ever seem to get names straight.

02:34:29.000 Okay, Dan.

02:34:31.000 I'll take you another direction real quick here.

02:34:33.000 I saw a movie a couple days ago.

02:34:35.000 I read it from the video store.

02:34:37.000 Have you ever seen The Siege?

02:34:39.000 Oh yeah, that's what Tommy Franks came out and said.

02:34:42.000 Martial law, you know, it's sad to say, but the people may want it to keep safe.

02:34:46.000 Equaling, hey, martial law keeps you safe.

02:34:48.000 And he said, you know, like the siege.

02:34:51.000 And it showed images of troops machine gunning U.S.

02:34:53.000 buildings.

02:34:54.000 Yeah, what it was, it was about Middle Eastern terrorists in New York.

02:34:57.000 This is 1998, this movie came out.

02:34:59.000 But this is, exactly, but this is what, on Fox, when they showed the interview with Franks, they showed troops blowing up U.S.

02:35:05.000 buildings.

02:35:07.000 Yeah.

02:35:07.000 In the background of him talking.

02:35:09.000 Yeah, well, the Middle Eastern terrorists, they, you know, bombed some school buses, the federal building. 0.78

02:35:16.000 They eventually took all the Middle Eastern people that they could gather up in New York City, put them in stadiums with fences, just like you've been talking about. 1.00

02:35:24.000 Which just so happens to be the federal plan from before 9-11, but it's not going to be Middle Easterners, folks. 1.00

02:35:31.000 Yeah, exactly, but in the movie it was all Middle Eastern people because they were trying to get the terrorists. 0.70

02:35:35.000 But, you know, they had all the innocent people in there, too.

02:35:39.000 Obviously, most of them were innocent because they were just law-abiding citizens.

02:35:42.000 But they were Middle Eastern descent, so they went into the prison in the stadium.

02:35:46.000 And they had one prisoner they actually took into a jail cell kind of deal, and they tortured him.

02:35:51.000 And he was naked, by the way, just like they did in the prisons over in Iraq.

02:35:54.000 And they had him, you know, strapped down there, tied to a chair, and they tortured him.

02:35:59.000 And they didn't show the torture, but you could hear it.

02:36:01.000 Then in the end, they just shot him.

02:36:03.000 And that was, I think, Bruce Willis that played the General of the Army when they finally got Marshall Law in and all that.

02:36:08.000 He was in power now.

02:36:09.000 Yeah, I've seen it.

02:36:10.000 They killed the guy.

02:36:11.000 Yeah, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention, to the listeners.

02:36:14.000 They might want to pick up on that movie.

02:36:15.000 It's a good movie.

02:36:17.000 But it conditions people.

02:36:19.000 Yeah, I know.

02:36:20.000 Hi, Harry.

02:36:21.000 Thanks for the call, Dan.

02:36:23.000 And again, it's movies like The Long Kiss Goodnight.

02:36:26.000 I'll tell you what, Stephanie, you had that clip.

02:36:29.000 Will you find that Long Kiss Goodnight?

02:36:34.000 Go ahead and play that.

02:36:35.000 This is from 1999.

02:36:37.000 Paul, tell folks about the actors that are in this and what they're going to say.

02:36:40.000 Yeah, well, you've got... I forgot the black actor.

02:36:43.000 Who is it?

02:36:43.000 Who's in it?

02:36:44.000 I forget that's the problem.

02:36:46.000 I was trying to get him to... I like him.

02:36:48.000 He's a great actor, but I can't remember his name for some reason.

02:36:51.000 Yeah, well, anyway, it was the guy who was in Pulp Fiction as well.

02:36:55.000 And, um, I think it's the Overlord, the government agent who is trying to get his funding through, says to him that the, um, 93 World Trade Center bombing was basically carried out by the, um, FBI and CIA.

02:37:08.000 Which was a true story admitted in major newspapers, so they mixed that, then he says we're gonna blow it up totally this time to get our funding.

02:37:16.000 Yeah, and he says he doesn't know how to stage the terrorist attack, so he's just going to have to do it for real to get his funding.

02:37:23.000 And then on top of that, we also have the lone gunman months before 9-11 on Fox, where a secret government group hijacks a jet to fly to the World Trade Center to get martial law.

02:37:34.000 But go ahead and play the clip from The Long Kiska Night. 0.79

02:37:38.000 Is that a phone ringer?

02:37:40.000 Here it is.

02:37:42.000 1993.

02:37:42.000 World Trade Center bombing.

02:37:44.000 Remember?

02:37:45.000 Uh, Stephanie, do we have that clip?

02:37:50.000 Oh, I understand now.

02:37:52.000 This is not feeding to me.

02:37:54.000 He's a fundraiser?

02:37:59.000 1993.

02:38:01.000 World Trade Center bombing.

02:38:03.000 Remember?

02:38:05.000 During the trial, one of the bombers claimed the CIA had advanced knowledge.

02:38:13.000 The diplomat who issued the terrorist visa was CIA.

02:38:16.000 It's not unthinkable they paved the way for the bombing, purely to justify a budget increase.

02:38:22.000 You're telling me that you're going to fake some terrorist thing just to get some money out of Congress?

02:38:27.000 Well, unfortunately, Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people.

02:38:33.000 So we're just going to have to do it for real. 0.99

02:38:36.000 Oh, blame it on the Muslims, naturally. 1.00

02:38:39.000 Then I get my funding. 0.96

02:38:41.000 Good night, old girl.

02:38:45.000 Sorry about that, folks.

02:38:54.000 She was playing the clip.

02:38:55.000 I couldn't hear it, so I thought we had dead air, so we started the clip over again in mid-flight, but, um... Paul, it doesn't get any more in your face than that, does it?

02:39:04.000 No.

02:39:04.000 The actor is Samuel L. Jackson, obviously.

02:39:07.000 Yeah, Samuel L. Jackson.

02:39:08.000 Very interesting how movies do mirror reality.

02:39:11.000 I watched a movie on Saturday night, which was about how Terrorists smuggled a nerve gas bomb on board a commercial airliner.

02:39:19.000 In the script, it later turned out that the main terrorist was actually working for British Intelligence.

02:39:24.000 So, in many cases, they do blow the whistle on this kind of thing.

02:39:28.000 And in many other worrying cases, movies do go on to become reality in later months, as we saw with the lone gunman situation.

02:39:37.000 Well, we had Philips changing the way you live in your world, or changing your world, a Philips TV ad.

02:39:43.000 I have the AP article, I've never seen the ad.

02:39:46.000 And it describes F-16s bombing both towers and saying, Philips, changing the way you live your world.

02:39:53.000 What in the world is that?

02:39:55.000 Well, I mean right down to those Illuminati playing cards, which are part of a board game, two of which showed the World Trade Center exploding in the exact spot on the South Tower where the plane hit and the Pentagon being attacked as well.

02:40:09.000 And then we have the rap band The Coup showing the towers exploding in the very same spots.

02:40:17.000 Yeah, there's a whole section in the 9-11 Archive, which is obviously right at the bottom, because this isn't solid proof of the events of that day, but it's just interesting to consider, called Anecdotal Prior Knowledge, and that's in the 9-11 Archive on the website.

02:40:30.000 Alright, we're going to just take one final call, and be quick, John in Ohio, go ahead.

02:40:35.000 Yeah, I was glad that Paul clarified the disinformation that the corporate CIA media is peddling about Venezuela.

02:40:43.000 But there's an even greater elaboration of this on ZMAG.org by Greg Pallast, how the United States, contrary to that color, is rigging the vote there, and in case it can't do that, is intending on totally discrediting it.

02:40:59.000 He points out on this article on ZMAG.org that Venezuela lordated, well the gang that fixed the Florida vote, fixed the vote in Caracas this Sunday, and he points out that The CIA and Homeland Security have been using Choice Point, the same gang that Bush used to rig the vote in Florida now, under the guise of a war on terrorism.

02:41:20.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

02:41:22.000 The only places that the United States is sending these Choice Point lists, private lists of citizens in these countries, have nothing to do with terrorism.

02:41:32.000 It's only where there are contested votes, contested elections, where the United States and the globalists are opposing The candidates, whether it's in Brazil or Venezuela or these other countries, and in effect they're using that the same way they used it in Florida.

02:41:48.000 And then also there's another article about how even the New York Times and the other media, which totally ignores the fraudulent voting machines in this country, are trying to use this false disinformation that somehow it's going to be used in Venezuela.

02:42:05.000 But even the Carter Commission Pointed out that it has a very secure system, security measures, and a paper receipt trail, which they were very impressed with.

02:42:15.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:42:16.000 I appreciate it.

02:42:18.000 Paul, let's cover this now, and then we'll get into Porter Goss, kind of his background and his new domestic stasi, but let me read this real quick.

02:42:26.000 This is out of the New York Times.

02:42:28.000 An American Hiroshima is possible. 1.00

02:42:30.000 Reposted in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

02:42:34.000 If a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon, a midget, even smaller than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, exploded in Times Square, the fireball would reach tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit. 0.95

02:42:43.000 It would vaporize or destroy the Theater District, Madison Square Garden, the Empire State Building, Grand Central Terminal, and Carnegie Hall, along with me and my building.

02:42:52.000 The blast would partly destroy as much larger area, including the United Nations.

02:42:56.000 On a weekday, some 500,000 people would be killed.

02:42:59.000 Could this happen?

02:43:01.000 Unfortunately it could, and many experts believe that such an attack somewhere is likely.

02:43:05.000 Now listen to this.

02:43:06.000 He acts like this is all real, then later admits it's fake.

02:43:08.000 This is a psychological warfare piece.

02:43:10.000 The Aspen Strategy Group, a bipartisan assortment of policy mavens, focused on nuclear risk at its annual meeting here last week, and the consensus was two-fold.

02:43:19.000 The danger of nuclear terrorism is much greater than the public believes, and our government hasn't done nearly enough to reduce it.

02:43:25.000 Graham Allison, a Harvard professor, whose terrifying new book, Nuclear Terrorism, offers the example cited above, noted that he did not pluck it from the thin air.

02:43:33.000 He writes that on October 11, 2001, exactly a month after 9-11, aides told President Bush that a CIA source code named Dragonfire had reported that Al-Qaeda had obtained a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon and smuggled it into New York City.

02:43:48.000 The CIA found the report plausible.

02:43:51.000 The weapon, supposedly, had been stolen from Russia, which indeed has many ten kiloton weapons.

02:43:56.000 Russia is reported to have lost, sure, some of its nuclear materials, and Al-Qaeda has not a determined effort to get or make such a weapon, and the CIA has picked up Al-Qaeda chatter about an American Hiroshima.

02:44:08.000 President Bush dispatched nuclear experts to New York to search for the weapons, and sent Dick Cheney and other officials out of town to ensure the continuity of government in case a weapon exploded in D.C.

02:44:19.000 Instead, but to avoid panic, the White House told no one in New York City, not even Mayor Giuliani.

02:44:25.000 Dragonfire report was wrong, but similar reports that Al-Qaeda has its hands on a nuclear weapon from the former Soviet Union regularly have surfaced, through disinfo people I would add, in the intelligence community, even though such a report has never been confirmed.

02:44:38.000 We do know several troubling things.

02:44:40.000 Al Qaeda negotiated for a 1.5 million purchase of uranium, apparently of South African origin, from a retired Sudanese cabinet minister.

02:44:49.000 That's been admitted to be fake, too.

02:44:51.000 Its envoys traveled repeatedly to Central Asia to buy weapons-grade nuclear materials, and it goes on and on.

02:44:56.000 So what they're trying to do is create fear here in a ledger or a history, so when the globalists carry this out, we'll all think that Al Qaeda did it.

02:45:05.000 Paul?

02:45:06.000 Well, you said that this came out of what, the Aspen Institute?

02:45:11.000 The Aspen Institute is basically an arm of the Bilderberg Group.

02:45:11.000 Yes.

02:45:15.000 I mean, their CEO, I think it's Walter Isaacson, CEO of Aspen, is at the Bilderberg meeting almost every year, and he was at the recent one in Italy.

02:45:26.000 So just from that we see, you know, where these people's loyalties lie.

02:45:30.000 But even if it is possible that this would happen, then we have to look back at who's laying the pathway for it to happen.

02:45:38.000 Khan, the Pakistani scientist who was selling nukes to countries and terrorist groups all over the world, was in the enclave of the Bushes before they cut him loose. 0.99

02:45:46.000 And Bush ordered NW-199I, not just the hijackers, to be protected, but also Khan.

02:45:52.000 Yeah, as Greg Pallas reported, you know, before they cut him loose and made him this uh... individual criminal uh... they were very sure to distance him from the Bush family first of which he was intimately involved with so I mean it underlines the fact that it's entirely possible for individuals within this within the U.S.

02:46:12.000 to do this who have the capability just the door needs to be left open for them to do it which is what they do by all these people I mean watch Watch your bosses right before they put out a terror alert.

02:46:25.000 Watch the stocks.

02:46:26.000 Watch them invest and put options, just like they did on 9-11.

02:46:29.000 And if you really want to stop terrorism, look for key areas to double their insurance two or three weeks before this happens.

02:46:37.000 And look for the bushes to have family members running security in the area where the newt goes off.

02:46:42.000 Yeah, I mean, Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, the contract lease on the World Trade Center expiring on September 11th, I mean, the put options on American United Airlines, they're the things to watch to give you an indicator of what's about to happen.

02:46:55.000 But, I mean, they don't even have to directly detonate a nuke and then blame it on somebody else.

02:47:00.000 They can just have the people, their patsies, do it for them, even if those terrorists are unaware of it.

02:47:06.000 And they can also go in and machine gun the guys and deactivate it and have a big circus.

02:47:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:13.000 I mean, as with the First World Trade Center bombing, many of the terrorists within that group weren't even aware of the fact that the bombing was paved for by the CIA and the material, which was supposed to be dummy explosives, was exchanged for real explosives.

02:47:29.000 And I mean, they were retarded individuals. 1.00

02:47:30.000 They didn't even know what they were doing, basically.

02:47:33.000 So it underlines the fact that they don't have to directly carry this out.

02:47:36.000 They can just lay the groundwork for somebody else to do it.

02:47:40.000 Like the case with the Olympics and our friend Robert bin Laden, who proved that the security was completely superficial.

02:47:48.000 Yeah, a reporter called himself bin Laden, went and put little dummy bombs around and got 60 feet from officials.

02:47:53.000 And Allison of the Aspen Institute offers a standing bet of 51 to 49 odds that barring a radical new anti-proliferation steps, A terrorist nuclear strike will occur somewhere in the world in the next 10 years.

02:48:06.000 So I took his bet.

02:48:08.000 If there is no such nuclear attack by August 2014, he owes me $5.10.

02:48:12.000 If there is an attack, I owe him $4.90.

02:48:18.000 I took the bet because I don't think the odds of nuclear terror are quite as great as he does.

02:48:22.000 And then he goes on to say, unfortunately, plenty of smart people think I've made a bad bet.

02:48:27.000 William Perry, the former Secretary of Defense, says there is an even greater chance of a nuclear terror strike in the next decade.

02:48:33.000 This is in the next six years.

02:48:35.000 We'll be back.

02:48:36.000 Stay with us.

02:48:36.000 Final segment.

02:48:37.000 Talk about Porter Goss with Paul Watson.

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02:51:55.000 Alright, our final segment with Paul Watson.

02:52:00.000 This New York Times scaremongering piece continues.

02:52:03.000 For the first page, they act like everything's real and we're about to be attacked and say, oh, it was a fake report issued by our globalist rulers.

02:52:10.000 Quote, we're racing towards unprecedented catastrophe, former Secretary of Defense Perry warns.

02:52:18.000 Then the author says the upshot is the risk of a nuclear explosion will devastate a U.S.

02:52:23.000 city is greater now than it was during the Cold War and is growing.

02:52:27.000 So, boy, we're in greater danger now.

02:52:30.000 We've got to have nice men in black ski masks take all our freedoms away, Paul, so they can keep us safe.

02:52:37.000 As most of you listeners know, the New York Times is the mouthpiece for the New World Order.

02:52:41.000 They carried for months on end Shalibi's so-called evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

02:52:48.000 So, there's no liberal media conspiracy against the Bush administration.

02:52:52.000 They're supporting the Bush administration by acting as a mouthpiece for the police state measures that they need the fear-mongering to pass.

02:53:00.000 That's right.

02:53:01.000 Now, Porter Goss, you have an AP article posted and others, will they just come right out and say, domestic CIA to arrest citizens for any reason and they're going to be running our lives and he's got the bill introduced.

02:53:12.000 Well, isn't it interesting that nearly two months before Bush nominated him for Director of the CIA, he introduces this legislation which, according to Newsweek, would give the President new authority to direct CIA agents to conduct law enforcement operations inside the United States, including arresting American citizens.

02:53:33.000 and it was introduced by Goss on June 16th as an intelligence reform bill.

02:53:38.000 And then as soon as Goss is announced or nominated, subject to approval, which will obviously happen as CIA director, he then says it's a choice between big brother and dead brother.

02:53:50.000 And, you know, are the CIA supposed to be watching American citizens anyway?

02:53:54.000 No, that's not our mandate, but there's no discussion of it.

02:53:57.000 In fact, we have that clip.

02:53:59.000 It's going to be separate from Congress, by the way, folks.

02:54:01.000 Just like our trade and everything else and our borders.

02:54:04.000 Stephanie, do you have that clip of Goss?

02:54:07.000 Of Porter Goss.

02:54:08.000 You know the clip where he talks about Big Brother or Dead Brother?

02:54:12.000 Can we play that?

02:54:14.000 You got it?

02:54:15.000 Go ahead and hit it.

02:54:17.000 The purpose of the United States of America is to be respected for what we are.

02:54:22.000 Goss also weighed in on the age-old debate of preserving civil liberties versus protecting national security.

02:54:28.000 We're talking about the balance between privacy on the one hand and protection from big brother government, but we're also talking about the government's responsibility to protect our people.

02:54:38.000 It comes down to the choice, as my staff has said to me many times, between big brother and dead brother.

02:54:45.000 And I think our first responsibility in government is to make sure we don't have any more Death Brothers. 0.97

02:54:50.000 Oh, so we've got to give up our liberty for security, but you give up liberty, you get tyranny.

02:54:54.000 So, this is amazing and the Democrats love it, gosh.

02:54:57.000 Paul, thank you for coming on.

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02:55:38.000 So, PrisonPlanet.TV.

02:55:40.000 Paul, thanks for coming on with us.

02:55:42.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:55:42.000 Good to hear from you.

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02:56:18.000 We've got to expose the terrorists.

02:56:21.000 We've got to expose the killers.

02:56:22.000 If we just sit here and take it and let them pose as the good guys, it's over for our civilization and our children's futures.

02:56:28.000 So stand up against the New World Order.

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02:56:31.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

Alex Jones Show - August 16, 2004

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