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00:00:00.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 And good day to all.

00:00:25.000 Again, Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex, who's in New York City covering the Republican National Convention.

00:00:32.000 And we've been covering that.

00:00:34.000 He's been covering that for the last couple of days.

00:00:36.000 He's going to be there for the next several days, covering the Republican National Convention.

00:00:41.000 He will be joining me live, as he did the last two days, from New York to give us an update on things that are going on out there, things he's observing.

00:00:50.000 He's got a film crew, a camera crew out there, and he's covering the thing as really, really good.

00:00:56.000 And as we heard yesterday in his report, there's a lot of things going on out there.

00:01:01.000 So we'll get to him today and also Paul Joseph Watson will be joining me at the bottom of this hour and he'll be bringing us up to date on PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:01:13.000 Paul is also the author of Order Out of Chaos and we've got a lot of ground to cover actually and I want to invite you first of all to go to Alex's website at www.infowars.com.

00:01:27.000 He's got a picture up there of the Fuji blimp that he was reporting about yesterday.

00:01:31.000 It's very interesting because this blimp is unloaned to the New York City Police Department, maybe even probably the state of New York, but who knows.

00:01:41.000 But nevertheless, it's packed with state-of-the-art electronic surveillance gear.

00:01:46.000 And it's kind of interesting because in the article that is there with that picture of that blimp, what's really interesting is that article talks about the fact that Fuji

00:01:58.000 basically makes their blimp available to folks like the police departments as they're passing through and I'm kinda wondering in some ways when they say they're passing through where they passing through from and where they going now there's an innocuous part of that as well because you know we know blimps are used at sporting events, Goodyear blimp over football games and that type of thing but a couple of years ago I saw an article in one of the tech magazines I believe it was

00:02:25.000 Aviation Week and Space Technology, I believe.

00:02:28.000 They were talking about blimps, high-altitude blimps, that are capable of flying at about 80-90,000 feet for sustained amounts of time.

00:02:40.000 And they are, as I possibly understand it, they are in use today.

00:02:46.000 And of course, their job is to surveil.

00:02:51.000 And I just really think that it's kind of interesting that This kind of technology is in place and probably is being used as we speak because again, you know, we know there's a lot of activity in New York but that place is really locked down and it's locked down tight.

00:03:09.000 We've heard some very interesting stories about things that are going on with the crowds there.

00:03:16.000 The Zogby poll indicates that a lot of people do not believe President Bush.

00:03:20.000 They believe that there was some involvement at some level.

00:03:24.000 uh... by the president and others in the in the government on nine eleven and of course uh... these are people also asked the people if uh... they thought that a new investigation was in order and of course uh... an overwhelming number of sixty five percent said yes they thought that uh... a reinvestment a new investigation was in order and that elliot spitzer the attorney general from the new york should panel

00:03:53.000 A new investigative team to look at 9-11 and what happened.

00:03:57.000 So again, I think that we actually are turning the corner here because all indications are that a lot of people are fed up.

00:04:08.000 And another interesting thing that's on Alex's website is the story about the Cary Daughters being put out on MTV and being booed.

00:04:19.000 You know, MTV, as we know, was always a big fan of people like Bill Clinton.

00:04:25.000 And of course, John Kerry would have been their pick.

00:04:28.000 But it's kind of interesting, because when they brought the Kerry daughters out on stage, they were booed and jeered.

00:04:34.000 So, I think on both sides of the fence, the game is about up.

00:04:39.000 Anyway, we'll come back.

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00:07:56.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:09.000 And we continue again.

00:08:11.000 I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex who is away in New York covering the Republican National Convention.

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00:08:20.000 Now I'm here with you today, tomorrow and Friday.

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00:10:01.000 Okay, now, let's move on here.

00:10:05.000 Going back to Alex's website at www.infowars.com, there are some really, really interesting stories there that are unfolding or breaking as we're talking now.

00:10:14.000 For example, there is, again, I was talking about the Fuji blimp that is there in New York, high above the action, which is tied into the ground command center that has been established For the Republican National Convention.

00:10:32.000 It's the command center that is commanding everything.

00:10:34.000 It's like the nerve center that is commanding everything.

00:10:38.000 And it's keeping everything as tight as they can.

00:10:41.000 The problem is that there are a lot of people there that are very, very unhappy with the things that are going on.

00:10:49.000 I want to applaud a lot of those people out there, the protesters, for their peaceful demonstrations because We kind of touched on this yesterday.

00:10:58.000 It's so vitally important not to allow the provocateurs to get things stirred up so bad that there is an outbreak of violence.

00:11:08.000 President Bush would love nothing more than to have an excuse to slap down martial law, call out the heavy troops, and then see where that goes.

00:11:20.000 And of course, I think in some ways the agenda that the provocateurs have On the ground, and we've seen this in other places like the WTO, the provocateur's agenda is to create or cause civil disobedience to the point that the heavy-handedness has to take place.

00:11:42.000 And it is not, in my opinion, this is not the way that we want to see things go because they are looking for an excuse.

00:11:49.000 I mean, consider the fact that all it takes anymore with the way that things are being portrayed to us in the psychological warfare that the government has launched on us.

00:12:04.000 Everybody's kind of on a hair trigger.

00:12:07.000 Again, yesterday we were talking about some of the anger of people.

00:12:13.000 The thing is that what we need to really do is we need to encourage this anger to be directed at positive proactive action that would Basically, let our politicians know that we're not taking any more of their stuff.

00:12:28.000 Now, what does that mean?

00:12:29.000 That means, of course, that you vote, and you contact your politicians, you write letters to them, and you talk to other people.

00:12:39.000 And education is a very vital and important aspect of this as well, because I'm amazed, and I'm sure a lot of you are too, because a lot of people listening to this program Are very constitutional minded and know and understand what the Constitution is and how we are, it's us.

00:13:00.000 And a lot of people don't need to be told that, but I'm amazed at how many people don't know what it's all about.

00:13:08.000 I mean, even in this election, you can talk to people on the street and you can ask them who they're going to vote for.

00:13:15.000 And they give you the answer and then you say, well, why do you vote for that person?

00:13:20.000 What is that person?

00:13:22.000 What's appealing to you about that person?

00:13:24.000 And you're very hard-pressed in a lot of cases, especially among younger people.

00:13:29.000 You're very hard-pressed in most cases to find any kind of an intelligent answer.

00:13:34.000 It's mostly based on emotional reactions to the propaganda that's being put out there.

00:13:42.000 You know, the anything anybody but Bush campaign is nothing more than a partisan campaign to basically keep everybody corralled into the bipartisan camp regardless of who they vote for.

00:13:56.000 And of course, Alex's video, American Dictators, this is his new video, American Dictators, shows and demonstrates this dynamic.

00:14:05.000 Because what happens is, if they can keep you corralled Into the bipartisan camp, meaning that you're either Democrat or Republican.

00:14:14.000 If they can keep you in that camp, they've got you.

00:14:17.000 Because it doesn't matter who you vote for, it doesn't matter anymore who becomes President.

00:14:23.000 Because either way, the New World Order wins. 0.96

00:14:27.000 Kerry and Bush are cousins.

00:14:30.000 And they're also members in Skull and Bones.

00:14:33.000 Now, this is the problem that I'm talking about here, is that it doesn't matter to the New World Order, to the architects of that, it doesn't matter, because they are controlling both sides.

00:14:44.000 And this is kind of the Hegelian dialectic, which has been used so many times in politics.

00:14:51.000 It's been used for centuries, actually, throughout the world.

00:14:55.000 I mean, you can look at, trace conflicts in societies, in countries, you can trace these conflicts And you can, if you get into it and you follow the money and you look at what's going on, you begin to realize that provocateurs and agents, agentures of the architects of the New World Order, are always present.

00:15:18.000 They're stirring up both sides.

00:15:21.000 And of course, you know, you take this on a bigger scale around the globe, the whole Middle East activity out there.

00:15:30.000 Things that happened in Spain before the election.

00:15:32.000 The socialists, the Ba'athists, were blamed for the bombing in Spain a week before the election.

00:15:37.000 And bingo!

00:15:38.000 They got a socialist in office.

00:15:41.000 And of course, this is the problem on a bigger scale.

00:15:44.000 This is where all of this goes.

00:15:46.000 And these guys on both sides of the aisle, Bush and Kerry, one's fascist, one's socialist.

00:15:53.000 That's what you're getting.

00:15:54.000 You're getting either fascism or you're getting socialism.

00:15:57.000 But, you know, a lot of people think that fascism is extreme right.

00:16:00.000 Actually, fascism is left.

00:16:03.000 So, again, when I'm making the statement that Bush is no conservative, the Republican Party is not a conservative party, then you have to come to the logical conclusion that they're both on the left.

00:16:19.000 They have to be on the left, because any time that you have social welfare, it is a socialist ideal To redistribute your wealth.

00:16:31.000 It's forced charity.

00:16:33.000 It's robbery.

00:16:35.000 And it's wrong.

00:16:36.000 And there is a lot of people out there that find benefit in that, and that's why they want the Democrats to win.

00:16:43.000 They find benefit in that because they can enrich themselves off of your money.

00:16:49.000 But, conversely, in Bush's camp, he signed the largest spending bill in the history of this nation.

00:16:56.000 Is that a conservative?

00:16:59.000 Look at your Republican candidates.

00:17:00.000 Look at your Republican representatives.

00:17:03.000 All of them are right there in the game, trying to get spending bills passed.

00:17:10.000 And, you know, this is not conservative.

00:17:12.000 Not conservative at all.

00:17:14.000 But anyway, be sure and check out Alex's new film, American Dictators.

00:17:19.000 Again, the subtitle of it is Documenting the Staged Election of 2004.

00:17:23.000 A quote from Alex on this is, The future but we've studied human history and regardless of who wins November election 2004 the new world order wins and that is a quote from Alex Jones and of course he's right because like I said they are controlling both sides and as long as they can keep you corralled into that camp they're going to stay in power and you're going to be Your country and everything else is going to be sold out from under you.

00:17:53.000 That's where all of this is going.

00:17:54.000 Very scary.

00:17:55.000 That's why I think that it's very, very worthwhile to start looking very seriously about getting a third-party candidate elected.

00:18:04.000 You know, to me it's vitally important that we need to start working toward that end.

00:18:10.000 And send this message, because believe me, these yahoos here, these guys, Bush, Kerry, and all those partisan politicians, They do watch.

00:18:21.000 They do watch.

00:18:22.000 They watch the numbers.

00:18:24.000 They start seeing these kinds of trends.

00:18:27.000 It's going to put them on notice.

00:18:28.000 And of course, they're going to have to take a long, hard look at it.

00:18:32.000 And of course, that kind of thing will trickle down to your local politicians if you let them know, you're not going to go for this anymore.

00:18:39.000 That's, I think, how we start taking our country back.

00:18:43.000 But again, as I said, education is vitally important.

00:18:45.000 You need to help spread the word.

00:18:48.000 To people that you talk to on the street, because the more people that start waking up and realizing we live in a republic, okay, and we need to take our country back, the more people that start realizing what the concepts are behind the Constitution get reacquainted with it.

00:19:04.000 It's like blinders, it's like scales falling off their eyes, because they say, wow, you know, this is the way things should be, and this is the way things were set up, and this is the way they need to get back to.

00:19:15.000 Check out the website at www.infowars.com, www.prisonplanet.com.

00:19:20.000 Alex has all of his videos and books there.

00:19:23.000 You can order online from those two websites or you can call toll-free 888-253-3139.

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00:19:28.000 We'll be right back after the break.

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00:24:02.000 Again, Michael Corbin is sitting in for Alex Jones.

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00:24:19.000 Again, Michael Corbin is sitting in for Alex Jones.

00:24:21.000 Alex is going to be joining me next hour to talk about the current update live from New York at the Republican National Convention.

00:24:28.000 Also coming up at the bottom of the hour today, Paul Joseph Watson will join me, and we will do some updates on some of the things that are going on in his neck of the woods.

00:24:37.000 He, as you know, Paul is Alex's webmaster at PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:24:43.000 He's also the author of a book called Order Out of Chaos.

00:24:49.000 Very interesting stuff, and as I said, it seems to me that with the kinds of things that are starting to happen here, That I think we're finally starting to turn a corner.

00:24:59.000 As Alex says, you know, there's a war on for your mind.

00:25:02.000 There's an information war.

00:25:04.000 And I think that we're turning the corner.

00:25:05.000 And I think that things are starting to swing back the other way.

00:25:09.000 Because I think the pendulum has swung as far as it's going to go to the other extreme.

00:25:14.000 And I think it's going to start coming back.

00:25:16.000 And this is a really, really good time.

00:25:19.000 Because so many people are disenfranchised.

00:25:23.000 This thing with 9-11.

00:25:26.000 put the ball into motion.

00:25:27.000 And it's a game of psychological warfare.

00:25:31.000 And as we were talking, the Zogby poll indicates that a lot of people believe that President Bush and others were complicit in the events that led up to 9-11 and the attack itself.

00:25:44.000 And, of course, it just goes on and on and on.

00:25:47.000 And it's like living in a parallel universe because we're running one track here and we know what's going on.

00:25:55.000 And you see these politicians parading one after the other just at the RNC.

00:26:00.000 Parading one after the other, up to the microphone, everything's wonderful, we're making headway, we're starting to win this game.

00:26:06.000 Bush, of course, yesterday, I think it was yesterday, he admitted that he doesn't think we can win the war on terror.

00:26:13.000 Now, you know, of course we can't win the war on terror.

00:26:16.000 We have been telling him that for a long time, and if he had any sense about him, he would know that there's no way to win the war on terror.

00:26:23.000 A faceless, nameless war.

00:26:26.000 Just like the war on drugs.

00:26:28.000 Okay?

00:26:29.000 So, you know, but his statement is indicative of the idea that he wants to keep the war on terror in perpetuity.

00:26:40.000 He wants to keep this thing going

00:26:42.000 and going and going until they have got the infrastructure built so you know the other thing about this whole thing about the total information awareness and all of this the infrastructure is not there it's not built yet okay and that is what John Poindexter was kicking into motion with the Defense Intelligence Agency and TIA and letting out these huge... we're having this like an orgy of contracting that is going on right now everybody's getting their their foot in the door

00:27:12.000 To devise technology to enslave us.

00:27:15.000 Okay?

00:27:16.000 And there is pools of money there for them to do that.

00:27:20.000 And the whole war is outsourced.

00:27:23.000 I mean, take a look at it.

00:27:25.000 This is what's going on.

00:27:26.000 These guys are doing this because it's about money and control and power.

00:27:31.000 They want the world under their wing.

00:27:34.000 They want to take us under their thumb.

00:27:37.000 And we're, in some ways, A lot of people in their attitudes are, why not?

00:27:44.000 Because they can protect us from terrorism.

00:27:48.000 They can protect us from ourselves.

00:27:50.000 I mean, you know, that's basically essentially how they think.

00:27:54.000 And it's a real sad state of affairs in my opinion because, number one, they can't protect us.

00:28:00.000 Bush himself has admitted that war and terror may never end.

00:28:04.000 That maybe we can't win that war.

00:28:08.000 Anybody liberty-minded, any liberty-minded people will understand and realize that that's why you keep your guns.

00:28:15.000 Because your responsibility is to protect yourself and your family and your property.

00:28:20.000 That is a God-given right.

00:28:22.000 They have no authority, the state has no authority to take that away.

00:28:26.000 None at all.

00:28:28.000 They have no authority to give you rights either.

00:28:30.000 Because rights only come from the Creator.

00:28:33.000 And that is the beautiful part about a Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the great country that we are.

00:28:39.000 Because we recognize the inalienable right.

00:28:43.000 And again, we have to be responsible for ourselves.

00:28:47.000 And so that's, you know, to me that's the bottom line.

00:28:50.000 And we need to get politicians elected. 0.57

00:28:53.000 Get them in office.

00:28:54.000 We need to get the politicians in office that understand that and realize that they are the servants of us.

00:29:00.000 And that that is their only job.

00:29:03.000 Not to go out and make big deals, not to outsource the government, not to enrich themselves and all their friends in this cronyism. 0.98

00:29:12.000 It's just totally ridiculous.

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00:33:39.000 Good to be back, Michael.

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00:33:46.000 There's a lot of interesting stories there.

00:33:48.000 Let's cover a couple of them, okay?

00:33:50.000 Yes.

00:33:50.000 What's really hot today?

00:33:52.000 Well, I mean, most of the stories on the website and the police date section are obviously about what's been going on at the convention and just to bring listeners up to speed.

00:34:03.000 I was up until around 5am last night and into this morning keeping track of what was unfolding in New York.

00:34:10.000 And the events that have taken place have been completely blacked out by the establishment media.

00:34:17.000 Let's start with the arrest numbers, and this is possibly something you can ask Alex later.

00:34:23.000 CNN is reporting 900 arrests made yesterday in total.

00:34:29.000 And yet this completely contradicts every eyewitness report that I came across last night.

00:34:35.000 The people on the ground were saying at least a thousand had been arrested by 8pm and it wasn't until 9pm that most of the mass roundups and police brutality began.

00:34:48.000 As Alex mentioned yesterday, we had more reports of police using bikes and mopeds to simply run into people at high speed.

00:34:56.000 And it's interesting that they used plain-clothed cops to do this, because according to the New York Daily News, that was the case.

00:35:04.000 Now, obviously people are going to be wary of the police and, you know, get out of the way if they see them coming at them.

00:35:11.000 They're not going to be expecting anyone, you know, in a shirt and jeans to just plow into large groups of people, which is what was reported.

00:35:19.000 So I found that quite interesting.

00:35:21.000 Furthermore, in the same article, the Daily News reports that they've been using these giant plastic nets to simply trap people and keep them in one position, including scores of journalists and tourists who were, you know, simply walking out of the subway and documenting what was going on.

00:35:41.000 Um, but Mayor Bloomberg came out with an interesting statement, um, in the same article.

00:35:46.000 He said, quote, this isn't something like it's supposed to be a fair fight.

00:35:51.000 We have laws, he fumed.

00:35:53.000 You break the law and you're going to find yourself arrested.

00:35:56.000 Period.

00:35:57.000 End of story.

00:35:59.000 For the mass arrest.

00:36:01.000 Which were taking place yesterday, were just completely random sweeps of anyone.

00:36:05.000 They hadn't broken any laws, as is proven by the, um, paperwork when these people were being processed at what's called Pier 57, which is the temporary camp they've set up where they cram people into these tiny cages.

00:36:20.000 Um, when these people were released, the police would write, don't know, next to, um, you know, the entry for the reason for arrest, which strongly suggests That it was just an order from above to conduct these mass roundups on a large scale with no reason for arrest?

00:36:38.000 Well, you know, I think in a lot of ways this benefits them in a couple of ways.

00:36:42.000 And that is that it's given them an opportunity to have a real trial run in real time with handling masses of people for the eventual

00:36:54.000 uh... you know the total police state kind of thing because uh... it to me it when you see this kind of thing going on uh... as we talked yesterday it's so vitally important uh... that uh... that the protesters maintain a peaceful stance uh... to keep from having uh... bush to have an excuse to uh... to call out the heavy hitters uh... the troops uh... you know the thing is though is that they are it looks to me in some ways that they may be you're doing a real-time uh... examination of how

00:37:24.000 Their system works.

00:37:25.000 Well yeah, undoubtedly they're kind of oiling the cogs of the police state.

00:37:29.000 Yeah.

00:37:30.000 But the only aggression that I came across was coming from police, and mainly plain-clothed police.

00:37:37.000 We had reports of undercover cops hitting old ladies in the face, people being thrown to the ground, people being thrown against walls.

00:37:44.000 And later on in the night, and Alex has talked about this a lot, they actually Rolled out the Y Armoured Humvee which holds the sound weapon, the acoustic audio weapon, which is designed to disperse large groups of people by emitting this piercing noise at high decibels.

00:38:04.000 that the uh... associate press report on last week thankfully they didn't use it but i don't i don't doubt that we'd you know we'll see it's reappearance later this week something even more sickening was there was actually from the eyewitnesses uh... a policy in place to arrest uh... medical personnel on mass so that when the uh... handcuffed protesters who were brutally beaten in several different areas of the city

00:38:34.000 When they were beaten, they couldn't get treatment because all the medics had been arrested.

00:38:38.000 I mean, you know, how sick is that?

00:38:40.000 Yeah, that's very sick.

00:38:41.000 Very, very sick indeed.

00:38:43.000 You know, the other thing, there's a couple of other things I'm seeing here on the site at PrisonPlanet.com, and that is that you've got some stories on here about this eight-year-old arrested, taken to adult jail for throwing a basketball at a child.

00:38:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:00.000 And this follows on from previous stories, such as the one where a high schooler was arrested for wearing a baseball cap backwards.

00:39:09.000 And again, this third grader, I believe it was in New Mexico, threw a basketball at a child and refused to return to class.

00:39:19.000 So, I mean, they called the police and then later on the child was thrown into an adult Well, it wasn't a juvenile facility, it was an adult facility, harangued by the fellow inmates, taunted, and then only released later on, and the parents are filing a lawsuit against it, but again, it's another example of this police mentality where they will pick on the most defenseless individuals and target them.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, and the final thing I want to talk about before we get to some callers and that is I heard that Bush had said yesterday, I believe it was yesterday, that we can't win the war on terror and I see an article here under the general section at PrisonPlanet.com where it says Bush has recanted and says terror war will be won.

00:40:07.000 What do you know about that?

00:40:08.000 Well, he came out with the comment that it can't be won on Monday on a TV interview.

00:40:14.000 He actually called into the Rush Limbaugh show yesterday in a big, you know, staged event and reversed his position, you know, the neocon worshippers.

00:40:24.000 But, in a sense, The original comment is right for two reasons.

00:40:29.000 One, we know who's behind the terror and it's the people above Bush who are writing his scripts.

00:40:34.000 And two, even if you do believe that there are these independent terrorist groups, you can never completely eradicate terrorism because it's not a physical thing, it's a tactic.

00:40:45.000 It's just a word, basically.

00:40:47.000 I mean, but Bush isn't making these comments for those reasons.

00:40:50.000 We've been told many times that it's a war which will not only last our lifetimes, but a war which will potentially never end.

00:40:58.000 And in a permanent state of war, there can exist a permanent police state and a permanent climate of fear, which will then obviously coerce people into giving up their rights in the name of security.

00:41:10.000 So, Bush's comments are really, you know, the same conditioning mechanism to try to hoodwink people into living in this never-ending state of fear.

00:41:19.000 And remember what Bush said right after 9-11, the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom.

00:41:26.000 And he was right, the military-industrial complex attacked us because they hate our freedom, and now they are pushing the agenda to take that freedom away.

00:41:36.000 As I was mentioning earlier, it's an example of the Hegelian dialectic, because they control both sides of a conflict, but they gotta have conflict going.

00:41:43.000 And of course, you know, the Cold War is supposedly over.

00:41:47.000 We needed a new enemy.

00:41:48.000 And I think that's what this whole war on terror is cut out a whole cloth that way.

00:41:54.000 Because it supplants the Cold War as the new enemy, and it proposes to go in perpetuity, which is what they are basically Saying that it's going to do it.

00:42:06.000 It could go generations.

00:42:07.000 It could never end.

00:42:09.000 Well, yeah, and they seek to make it immediate to people's personal lives and not just something which is happening in some foreign country.

00:42:16.000 Which is why in my country, in Britain, every couple of months they have these, what they call mass terror sweeps, where they will arrest 15 to 20 individuals.

00:42:26.000 Say they were planning to, you know, poison the London Underground or something like that.

00:42:31.000 It'll be front page headline for three days and then quietly a week later the vast majority of those individuals are released with no evidence against them and it's in the back of the paper but what that does is it makes the people of Britain think that, you know, there are these groups of terrorist cells running around in their neighborhoods planning to blow stuff up so they try and bring it, you know, they try and give it that sense of immediacy so people feel all the more threatened by it and kowtow into fear.

00:43:00.000 Very dastardly, I'd say.

00:43:00.000 Yeah.

00:43:02.000 Definitely.

00:43:03.000 Hey, let's take some calls.

00:43:04.000 We've got Bob calling in from Michigan.

00:43:07.000 You're on the air.

00:43:07.000 Good day, Bob.

00:43:09.000 Hello there, Mike and your guest.

00:43:09.000 Yes, sir.

00:43:12.000 Hey, I've got two brief subjects.

00:43:14.000 I don't want to hog the lines, but I just want to clear something up on yesterday where this guy called in.

00:43:20.000 He sounded like a liberal because of the way he mentioned Paul Harvey.

00:43:24.000 I did not say, shoot the protesters.

00:43:27.000 I'm a protester in government.

00:43:29.000 Uh, which is my next subject, every single day. 0.99

00:43:32.000 I said, the ones that use lethal force, like the Molotov cocktails, trying to kill that policeman, I said, they should be shot. 0.72

00:43:40.000 But anyway, this other subject that bothered me very bad is, the reason why we got such a divided country is because, uh, like, we have a divided government. 0.97

00:43:51.000 On one side they're saying, let's try to defeat terrorism, yet you have the INS, Letting these illegals run around the country and even get away with murder. 0.99

00:44:05.000 I faxed in a thing to Ed Jones.

00:44:07.000 He said, go ahead, send it in to prove to him an Associated Press story by Michelle Malkin.

00:44:14.000 You probably know her.

00:44:15.000 Yeah, Michelle Malkin.

00:44:17.000 She told of where an illegal alien murdered a deputy in the state of Washington And got away with it.

00:44:26.000 Now how can we just sit back and be responsible citizens and depend on the federal government to protect us when they let these people come in and run around the country and even get away with murder?

00:44:39.000 Now listen to you, I'm done.

00:44:40.000 Okay, thanks Bob.

00:44:42.000 And in response to your first comment, you know, I understand what you're saying about that they should be dealt with harshly and shot if they use any kind of lethal force against the police, which

00:44:54.000 I think in a lot of ways that is the standard operating procedure of the police department, but the thing is, is that we still have to be mindful of the fact that we have got to not give them an excuse to drop the hammer down on everybody, and that's exactly what those provocateurs are trying to do.

00:45:13.000 In response to your second question, or second comment, I agree that we are a divided nation, but you can, again, look at all these issues.

00:45:21.000 There are double standards here.

00:45:23.000 There are double standards in play.

00:45:25.000 The immigration, the illegal immigration issue is one of those kinds of things and how it's plugged into the war on terror is another because they're talking about we've got to stop the terrorists from coming in the country.

00:45:38.000 They've spent millions if not billions of dollars on airport security but yet they do not do anything at the border and they allow tens of thousands of people in this country a month And the INS guys that are down there on the border are not allowed to do anything about it.

00:45:56.000 So there is a double standard, but as far as the division in this country, you can just look at the two political parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, and I've talked about that earlier, that it doesn't matter which side you're on, they're controlling both sides.

00:46:11.000 And that's something we have to start recognizing.

00:46:13.000 You got any comments on that, Paul?

00:46:15.000 Well, I mean, going back to the first comment about the protesters, the bottom line is that even if you don't agree with some of what these people are protesting about, and in fact some of them were pro-immigration protesters, the onslaught of brutality that they faced last night is a complete insult to the Constitution and any notion of freedom.

00:46:37.000 The mainstream media, the establishment media, completely blacked it out, even though it's, you know, a so-called liberal media conspiracy, but they blacked it out.

00:46:44.000 And all we hear about today is how great Arnold's speech was, you know, and how Dick Cheney's looking a little bit under the weather.

00:46:50.000 But don't forget that this police state, when Kerry's elected, it will rain down on pro-life, anti-immigration, and pro-Second Amendment protesters.

00:46:59.000 So I mean, the system's in place, so to support a crackdown on left-wingers is only, you know, digging your own grave when a Democrat gets in power, and all this rains down on right-wing protesters.

00:47:11.000 Absolutely, and the fact still remains that under the Constitution, everybody has a right to voice their opinion and their dissent.

00:47:20.000 If they don't like something, that's their right to do it.

00:47:25.000 This is the idea, though, is to inflame one group over another.

00:47:28.000 And that's what they really specialize in doing.

00:47:32.000 The individuals that are throwing Molotov cocktails are likely to be those provocateurs.

00:47:32.000 Absolutely.

00:47:37.000 Absolutely.

00:47:38.000 There's reports of provocateur actions coming in where black block anarchists, when they're asked which group they're affiliated with, they won't respond, and they're out there setting fire to trash cans.

00:47:50.000 So we're starting to see that take place last night and into today.

00:47:53.000 So that's what we need to be wary of.

00:47:55.000 These individuals are there to be violent often, as we've seen numerous examples in the past, under the protection of the government.

00:48:03.000 Absolutely, that's the sad fact of the whole thing.

00:48:06.000 Let's take a call, Regina in Pennsylvania.

00:48:08.000 Good afternoon, Regina, you're on the air.

00:48:10.000 Hi, I just wanted to call in because as far as you had mentioned yesterday, somebody called in that third party can't win.

00:48:20.000 I also like Michael Badner, except that his position on abortion, libertarian parties, is really with, you know, right now Laura Bush standing up and defending her husband with fetal tissue and vaccinations and her defending her husband.

00:48:38.000 He's the first man that's opened up the door for us to taxpayer fund fetal tissue research.

00:48:44.000 And, you know, with Carrie coming up and Once the door is open, he's going to open it more when we can use the fat tissue and the umbilical cord to accomplish this.

00:48:56.000 We don't, for stem cells, we can get it that way.

00:48:58.000 And I just want to say that the petitions that were passed around Pennsylvania for Michael Peruca, there were presidential electors listed.

00:49:08.000 So I would just want to suggest that maybe you get Michael Peruca, Chuck Baldwin, or even Michael Bagnerich on.

00:49:14.000 The reason Michael Bagnerich, he also If you could question him on the illegals, because I understand that he isn't too strong in opposition against illegal immigration, and you being as strong as you are, Mr. Portman, I'm a little surprised by your support of him, if that is the case.

00:49:33.000 To me, these three probably know the Constitution and the Bill of Rights inside out, up and down, more than Bush, Kerry, any of these people other than Ron Paul.

00:49:46.000 I don't understand.

00:49:54.000 I read an article about Michael Bednarik in our Tribune Review.

00:49:57.000 It was called Principles Without Paychecks and how much it cost him to go and just be able to sign in to get his nomination.

00:50:07.000 He barely had money to go and pay for a motel.

00:50:10.000 I can't believe that these people would just run around the country endlessly And have, you know, us try to get involved in petitions, but they didn't truly think that there was a chance for them.

00:50:20.000 But at least now I know that there's been some resistance with my situation of me wanting Mr. Peruca, and even Mr. Badnerica, in the debates.

00:50:31.000 I got big resistance for me wanting that.

00:50:35.000 I'll address that coming back from the break.

00:50:37.000 Thanks for your call, Regina.

00:50:38.000 And I will indeed check out Michael Bednarik's immigration policy stance.

00:50:38.000 I appreciate it.

00:50:43.000 We'll be right back after the break.

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00:53:55.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:54:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:13.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:54:14.000 1-800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.

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00:54:22.000 I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who, by the way, will be joining me next hour, at the bottom of the next hour, to give us a live update from the Republican National Convention in New York.

00:54:31.000 And we will look forward to that report.

00:54:35.000 As Paul and I are talking, Paul Joseph Watson is online with me, and he's Alex's webmaster at PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com, also author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:54:45.000 As we've been talking, the mainstream establishment media is blacking out a substantial portion of what's really happening on the ground in New York, and we're going to get a scoop from Alex about what's taking place there, coming up at the bottom of the next hour.

00:55:02.000 Paul, welcome back, and let's grab another call.

00:55:04.000 We've got Frank calling in from Colorado.

00:55:06.000 Good morning, Frank, you're on the air.

00:55:08.000 Good morning, Michael.

00:55:10.000 Can you hear me there?

00:55:11.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:55:12.000 I'm going to take a minor issue with you on one thing.

00:55:16.000 We talk about the difference being between a fascist and a socialist in terms of the parties.

00:55:21.000 That's not real accurate.

00:55:24.000 Well, both parties are socialist.

00:55:24.000 Why not?

00:55:27.000 The argument is whether we go to right-wing socialism through the Republicans, which is fascism, or left-wing socialism through the Democrats, which is Marxism.

00:55:36.000 Well, see, Frank, the thing is I choose to make the distinction that they're both in the same camp.

00:55:43.000 And they're both on the left.

00:55:44.000 I mean, in my way of defining the left and the liberal is the idea that they're both in that same camp.

00:55:52.000 They're not right-wing at all.

00:55:55.000 No, no, they're both left.

00:55:55.000 Because right-wing would be you're conservative.

00:55:58.000 And as far as I'm concerned, a conservative has nothing to do with any kind of overblown government and stealing your money and redistributing wealth.

00:56:09.000 Yeah, that's one of the reasons I don't call myself either liberal or conservative.

00:56:13.000 I call myself pro-American.

00:56:15.000 That basically makes me hated equally by both sides.

00:56:20.000 People are very emotional about this, particularly this election year.

00:56:23.000 They're very emotional about the whole thing.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, the country is so divided and they don't realize that they're divided to avoid looking at what's actually going on.

00:56:32.000 The direction we're going doesn't make a darn bit of difference which side gets in power.

00:56:36.000 Bush or Kerry, you know you'll have a difference in the type of administration, which makes a difference to the top 10, possibly 25% of the people.

00:56:45.000 The middle 50% of the people, it's really not going to make a whole lot of difference for one way or the other.

00:56:53.000 Actually, the bottom 25% of the Democratic-Marxist form is probably a little bit more benign form of socialism.

00:56:59.000 But we all suffer under socialism.

00:57:01.000 You know, if you're pro-American.

00:57:03.000 Yes, we do.

00:57:04.000 And that's what's got to stop, because that is not the way that this country was structured.

00:57:09.000 And, you know, you could call what Bush is, and this is kind of the game.

00:57:14.000 They had this on the drawing boards back in the 60s and even probably before that, but they wanted to call it friendly fascism.

00:57:20.000 And they create These circumstances that make people, like the psychological warfare angle, they make people depend on them and welcome it.

00:57:31.000 Absolutely.

00:57:31.000 That's their version of friendly fascism.

00:57:33.000 Paul, do you want to add anything?

00:57:34.000 We've got about a minute.

00:57:35.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the leaders of the neocon movement owe their political philosophy, the roots of it, to Trotskyism.

00:57:42.000 I mean, there were big articles about that, you know, ghost of Trotsky walks the halls of the White House in big Canadian newspapers.

00:57:49.000 I mean, going back to the left-right thing, I mean, what was Stalin into?

00:57:53.000 He was into concentration camps, mass arrests, elimination of free speech.

00:57:57.000 What was Hitler into? 0.79

00:57:58.000 The same thing, and yet we were told Stalin was communist left and Hitler was fascist right.

00:58:04.000 It's the same system.

00:58:05.000 It's the same policies.

00:58:06.000 It's a command-and-control establishment that rules with an iron fist, so there really is no left and right when you get to the extreme of both political perspectives.

00:58:19.000 All right, thanks for your call.

00:58:21.000 And we'll take the break and come back and continue with your calls.

00:58:24.000 And Paul Joseph Watson, I want to talk to Paul next hour about the book Order Out of Chaos.

00:58:30.000 I'm very interested in what that book is about.

00:58:32.000 1-800-259-9231 is our number.

00:58:33.000 I'm Michael Corbin.

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00:58:34.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

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00:58:40.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:41.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 And welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:59:17.000 I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones.

00:59:21.000 Today I'm doing it and tomorrow and Friday Erskine will be filling in for Alex who is in New York covering the Republican National Convention and he is going to be giving updates, live updates, each day to let us know what's going on because we're not getting the full story from the establishment media, the mainstream media.

00:59:40.000 We're just not getting the straight story.

00:59:42.000 We were talking last hour

00:59:44.000 that uh... there may be uh... more than a thousand people have been arrested uh... in protests uh... in new york and uh... the established media is just not reporting those kinds of numbers are making it sound that there's like no real serious problems there but uh... there is there are and uh... alex is going to update us uh... coming up the bottom of the hour today on it and uh... real quick before i get back to paul i want to direct you to check out alex's websites info wars dot com and prison planet dot com

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01:00:19.000 Now, Alex's newest film is American Dictators, documenting the staged election of 2004.

01:00:25.000 And of course, this film documents the dynamic between the two parties that are running for president and how they are related.

01:00:35.000 They're cousins.

01:00:37.000 And they're also members of the Skull and Bones.

01:00:40.000 Now, in a dictatorship, which is where this is all headed, there are no choices.

01:00:45.000 The elections are controlled.

01:00:47.000 The police are the military.

01:00:48.000 We're seeing that unfold in New York and other examples of that around the country, as Alex has documented.

01:00:55.000 Fear equals control.

01:00:56.000 9-11 is one good example of that.

01:01:00.000 This is psychological warfare.

01:01:02.000 Speech is suppressed.

01:01:04.000 The economy is looted.

01:01:05.000 The people are the slaves.

01:01:08.000 That is very, very true, and our economy is being looted.

01:01:10.000 I mean, how many kinds of documentation do we need to realize that this is what is taking place, what's happening here?

01:01:18.000 You know, outsourcing the government, privatization of the war, just on and on and on.

01:01:24.000 The totalization treaty that is being proposed.

01:01:28.000 These are examples of how we are being forced to keep our nose to the grindstone and finance This unholy thing that is taking place, and it's sucking the life right out of our country.

01:01:43.000 Now, again, American Dictators, documenting the stage of the election of 2004, Alex's newest film, available on Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, online, or you can call toll-free at 1-888-253-3139.

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01:02:01.000 Now, if you're a subscriber to PrisonPlanet.tv, you can view that video on a stream there. And if you're not, you're not a subscriber and you're accessing Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com, there is a 20-minute segment you're not a subscriber and you're accessing Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com, there is a 20-minute segment there at those two websites that you get a sample of Again, you can order online at Infowars.com or...

01:02:28.000 or prisonplanet.com or you can call toll-free 1-888-253-3139 and welcome back Paul and let's see I wonder if we've got time to take another call.

01:02:40.000 We'll take Fred in Pennsylvania.

01:02:41.000 Fred, good afternoon you're on the air.

01:02:43.000 Michael.

01:02:44.000 Yes.

01:02:45.000 I want to back up Paul's statement about the disinformation on especially the local New York radio stations because I tuned in last night and, uh, the tone, first of all, the tone that I got from the, uh, reporter was that, uh, quote unquote, bad people are being punished.

01:03:09.000 Uh, which isn't, uh, actually the case.

01:03:12.000 And, uh, the tone that I got from, from the station was that, uh, you know, they had to chase down 150 bad people and arrest them.

01:03:23.000 Uh, and also that, uh, uh, Commissioner Kelly got on the radio and said that the protestors had become violent and I don't really see any evidence of that.

01:03:38.000 I also wanted to say... We've got to grab the break.

01:03:40.000 Just hold on.

01:03:41.000 I'll take it back after we come back, okay?

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01:07:29.000 Paul Joseph Watson is with me now, and let's grab Fred real quick in Pennsylvania.

01:07:37.000 Fred, you're back on the air, and let's get to your point, okay?

01:07:41.000 Fred, are you there?

01:07:42.000 I'm here.

01:07:43.000 Can you hear me?

01:07:43.000 Yes, I can.

01:07:44.000 Go ahead.

01:07:45.000 The coverage is... Paul said that big media is complicit in the events of the disinformation of this convention, and he is right on.

01:08:01.000 I back Paul completely on that.

01:08:03.000 I think that if you listen to the New York Stations carefully, you'll realize that.

01:08:09.000 And also I want to switch very briefly over to this Apparently there has been $59 million earmarked, Colin Powell said in a speech a couple of months ago, for the prevention of a peaceful transition to Raul Castro.

01:08:29.000 And he gave a speech that was in, I think, either Wall Street Journal or the New York Times.

01:08:34.000 I didn't cut the article out, but it had a Well, again, this goes back to our foreign policy.

01:08:41.000 Paul, I'm curious, have you heard anything about that?

01:08:43.000 the government was going to spend to prevent this transition to the next Cuban president.

01:08:50.000 And I don't think that's legal under any system of international law.

01:08:54.000 Well, again, this goes back to our foreign policy.

01:08:57.000 Paul, I'm curious, have you heard anything about that?

01:09:00.000 I haven't, no.

01:09:02.000 Going back to the original point, in my view, the protests have shown remarkable restraint.

01:09:09.000 The only examples of violence on the part of the protestors were, as Alex mentioned yesterday, the man hitting the police officer who ploughed into a group of people on his moped.

01:09:20.000 Apart from that, we've had examples of groups of protestors un-arresting other protestors who have been arrested by simply dragging them away from police.

01:09:30.000 So if you want to class that as violence, then fair enough.

01:09:34.000 I mean, the policy, as I mentioned, might be the case on Monday, is that many of the police are not wearing badge numbers.

01:09:40.000 So the protesters can't take down their badge numbers if any violence or police brutality takes place.

01:09:47.000 And that's obviously to avoid lawsuits later on.

01:09:50.000 So, I mean, the only abuses that I've seen and that the eyewitnesses are reporting are on the part of the police or the people who have ordered them to carry out these policies.

01:10:00.000 Yep, absolutely.

01:10:01.000 Okay, Fred, thanks.

01:10:01.000 We're going to move on, okay?

01:10:02.000 Thank you.

01:10:03.000 And let's take Paul in New Jersey.

01:10:05.000 Good afternoon, Paul.

01:10:06.000 You're on the air.

01:10:08.000 Yeah, I just wanted to make a few comments about immigration, particularly from Islamic nations.

01:10:16.000 I went to the Department of Homeland Security website Where you can download immigration statistics, and I did this for the year 2002.

01:10:23.000 What I did was I used my almanac and I excluded all nations that were less than 50% or less Islamic. 0.96

01:10:34.000 Any nation that was 50% or more Islamic, I included. 0.98

01:10:39.000 And altogether I added up those countries for the grand total of 100,765 legal immigrants In the year 2002, for a majority Islamic nation.

01:10:53.000 And this runs straight in the face of a supposed war on terror.

01:10:59.000 And also, especially when you see the many conflicts between Islamic Christian cultures throughout the world, or even non-Christian, as in Kashmir, the Philippines, You would think any nation that wanted to prevent future ethnic or religious conflict would want to maintain basically a religious majority, especially the Christian descendant. 0.55

01:11:27.000 Now are you saying... I take a little issue with this because of the fact that you just said that the statistics indicated legal immigration.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, in one year's time.

01:11:38.000 In one year's time.

01:11:39.000 And again, I'm not sure that I find any problem with that.

01:11:45.000 I see what you're saying, but we can't exclude people from coming to this country.

01:11:49.000 Why not?

01:11:50.000 Because the basis of this country has always been people coming here, regardless of their ethnic background and their religious background. 0.76

01:12:00.000 That's not true at all.

01:12:00.000 And by the way, I would suggest that you read Peter Brimelow's book called Alienation, where he discusses that this country He was always highly selective about immigration, and let's be honest about it, for most of the time, preferred white Christians from Europe as the ideal.

01:12:18.000 Well, I don't think I agree with that at all.

01:12:21.000 I don't know who Paul Bremelow is.

01:12:23.000 Peter Bremelow.

01:12:24.000 Peter Bremelow.

01:12:24.000 I'm not sure who he is, but what I'm saying is that if we need to refine our immigration policy, when people come here legally, I have no problem with that.

01:12:35.000 Oh, I have a problem with that.

01:12:36.000 I have a problem with the illegals coming here. 1.00

01:12:38.000 No, I have a problem with legal and illegal immigration because I see this as demographic war against what was a 90% white nation in 1950 and what they look forward to being A non-white nation by 2050, so in a hundred year period of time, you'll have seen the white race in North America. 0.93

01:12:57.000 No, no, no.

01:12:58.000 Wait.

01:12:59.000 No, no. 0.99

01:13:00.000 That's ridiculous.

01:13:01.000 Thanks for your call, Paul. 0.99

01:13:02.000 Wait, it happened to the American Indians. 0.69

01:13:04.000 Yeah, no.

01:13:05.000 Paul, this is not...

01:13:07.000 I'm not going to go there with you on this deal, okay?

01:13:09.000 Because this is wrong.

01:13:10.000 Alright?

01:13:11.000 This country has always stood for welcoming people from other countries.

01:13:15.000 All of us, for the most part, have a heritage that is not American. 0.97

01:13:21.000 And I completely disagree with that.

01:13:23.000 I really do.

01:13:23.000 I'm sorry about that, but I do.

01:13:24.000 Paul, do you have any comments you want to add to that?

01:13:27.000 I suggest you read Peter Brimelow's book and really look at immigration as a test.

01:13:32.000 Okay, that's it.

01:13:34.000 Paul Watson, I'm addressing you.

01:13:38.000 We know that there are these strict guidelines in place, these strict naturalization programs, whereby legal immigrants are taught the Constitution, they're taught, you know, the English language, and that's what builds the nation.

01:13:50.000 People who know freedom, no matter where they come from.

01:13:53.000 That's right.

01:13:53.000 As America was founded by immigrants.

01:13:56.000 Obviously, the problem which is being purposefully ignored is the illegal wave from Mexico, which amounts to an invading army.

01:14:02.000 That's right.

01:14:03.000 On that point, interestingly enough, Many of the listeners will have seen the photographs of the children's candy toys which have come out in the past week depicting a plane, you know, slamming into a tower and Osama Bin Laden being, you know, pictured next to them.

01:14:18.000 Turns out that those toys were manufactured in Mexico.

01:14:21.000 So, I mean, that's where the real threat's coming from. 0.94

01:14:24.000 Illegal invading army of Mexicans who really do hate America. 0.98

01:14:29.000 The issue of naturalized, legal immigrants that know their rights and just want to make a good living, then obviously I've got no problem with that.

01:14:36.000 I don't either.

01:14:36.000 That doesn't benefit the country.

01:14:38.000 And you know, I wonder sometimes who's worse.

01:14:41.000 When we talk about all this stuff, the thing is, is that attitudes like that, this Paul from New Jersey, attitudes like that Feed into this fascist system anyway.

01:14:52.000 Because, you know, it seeks to divide.

01:14:56.000 And divide the country.

01:14:58.000 These attitudes divide the country.

01:14:59.000 And it is totally, in my opinion, it's BS.

01:15:02.000 I mean, it's just wrong.

01:15:03.000 Well, I mean, it allows the opposition to then hold up anti-illegal immigration as being a position held by people like that caller with overtly, you know, racist viewpoints.

01:15:13.000 So then they can say that, you know, if you're against immigration, then you're racist.

01:15:18.000 It plays right into their hands when we're merely pointing out that we're against illegal immigration.

01:15:22.000 So it's a very dangerous, you know, Setting to get involved in where they can just label us as racist because of people like that who espouse those kind of viewpoints.

01:15:33.000 Yeah, I think Paul needs to go back and read the Bill of Rights, too.

01:15:36.000 It says all men are created equal, and you know, this is the thing.

01:15:40.000 Like you said, no matter where you are on the planet, okay, we all have this inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

01:15:48.000 And if the United States has always been that beacon of hope to those people, more power to it.

01:15:54.000 That's the way I see it.

01:15:56.000 Well, in many cases, the people who do go through these strict naturalization programs are more educated on the Constitution than Americans, because they're taking those kind of classes out of the school system.

01:16:07.000 And I have no problem with that either, because again, you know, coming to America requires certain things.

01:16:12.000 In other words, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that.

01:16:15.000 But again, you know, I can't embrace this other guy's attitude at all.

01:16:20.000 Hey, back on PrisonPlanet.com, I'm looking here at The article that you have under Big Brother about the iris recognition added to school security?

01:16:30.000 What's going on with that?

01:16:32.000 Well, yeah, this has been taking place up and down the country.

01:16:35.000 In this case, it's for parents who come to collect their children from school.

01:16:40.000 They're saying it's voluntary at the moment, but in many cases it's mandatory, where, you know, at the gate of the school they have to submit to this mandatory eye scan.

01:16:49.000 And it's part of the drive to get the police state, the Big Brother mentality, into schools so that children grow up within that system and then embrace it when they come to adulthood.

01:17:00.000 So they will not speak out against things like cameras on the streets, 4.2 million of which are in London right now.

01:17:07.000 So it's part of that brainwashing education process to get people to accept Big Brother because they introduce it at the educational level.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:17:18.000 And you know, this is just another indication of how they're utilizing every avenue that they have available to them.

01:17:25.000 Public education is a good example of another evil.

01:17:29.000 They're using every avenue that they have to gain your biometric data.

01:17:36.000 It's all fueled by the fear of a kind of Columbine incident, which we know was staged from the research, and the recent wave, or so-called wave, of child abductions, which in fact has not increased in number since the the 70s, it's actually gradually gone down.

01:17:56.000 But because it's been in the media so often, people think that it's an increasing wave.

01:18:01.000 And so then that, in a kind of packed mentality, that makes people embrace this kind of Big Brother technology to try and protect against that.

01:18:09.000 And here in England, they've announced and are about to roll out a database which lists every child at birth with all their details on a biometric card.

01:18:20.000 So, I mean, it really is getting down to that level now.

01:18:22.000 Yeah.

01:18:23.000 Okay, we're going to take a break, Paul, and when we come back we'll continue.

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01:23:49.000 He is on the ground there, and he is covering what the establishment media seems to ignore.

01:23:54.000 So we're going to find out what's really, really going on in New York.

01:23:58.000 And Paul, let's grab another call.

01:24:00.000 Let's take Wayne from Michigan.

01:24:01.000 Good afternoon.

01:24:01.000 You're on the air, Wayne.

01:24:04.000 Hello, Wayne.

01:24:05.000 The voting system.

01:24:08.000 What was that, Wayne?

01:24:08.000 About eliminating the voting system.

01:24:11.000 Uh-huh.

01:24:11.000 What about it?

01:24:11.000 I have three cards.

01:24:14.000 A Libertarian card, a Democratic card, and a Republican card.

01:24:18.000 Each person picks a card, and they're governed by that card.

01:24:23.000 Okay.

01:24:24.000 Paul, did you want to say anything about that?

01:24:27.000 I don't quite grasp what Nicole is saying there.

01:24:30.000 Wayne, can you elaborate a little bit more on it?

01:24:32.000 Well, if you pick a Libertarian card, you're governed by the rules of the Libertarian.

01:24:39.000 And if you pick a Democrat card, you're governed by the rules of the Democrat.

01:24:44.000 Same way the Republican card.

01:24:47.000 I don't agree with that.

01:24:49.000 I mean, I don't think that's really the case necessarily.

01:24:51.000 You don't think that would work?

01:24:52.000 Well, I think that what we need to do is we need to reform the voting system so that it allows third party candidates to get in the game.

01:25:03.000 Well, I think eventually it would end up with one card, because the people would be going with the one that favors them the most.

01:25:10.000 And it would probably be Libertarian, because Libertarian seems to have the best benefits for everybody.

01:25:18.000 Well, I agree.

01:25:20.000 The Libertarian Party is looking at eliminating a large portion of the government we don't need.

01:25:27.000 So I just throw in there something to think about.

01:25:30.000 So I'm going to let you go.

01:25:31.000 Well, thank you for your call.

01:25:31.000 All right.

01:25:32.000 And, Paul, just jump in if you want to say anything about that.

01:25:36.000 Well, if we were to pick a card out of three, it certainly gives us a better chance of getting a third-party candidate, and that's for sure.

01:25:43.000 Yeah.

01:25:44.000 But, I mean, the caller earlier was talking about the libertarian candidate, Badnarek, why he doesn't have anti-immigration as a platform.

01:25:54.000 It's interesting that the candidacy was between him and Aaron Russo, who you would expect to be more liberal because he was in Hollywood.

01:26:02.000 But in fact, Russo's platform was geared around controlling the border.

01:26:07.000 So in a sense, it's a shame that Russo didn't get in.

01:26:10.000 But then again, Badnarik, as I mentioned in a previous show, has been up and down the country over the past year or so, teaching these constitutional classes.

01:26:18.000 And obviously, to defend the border is constitutional.

01:26:22.000 Absolutely.

01:26:23.000 But, I mean, it's not part of his platform, which again goes back to that thing about how third-party candidates are there to educate people.

01:26:30.000 So it is a question over him as to why it's not on his platform.

01:26:35.000 Right, exactly.

01:26:37.000 Let's grab another call.

01:26:38.000 We've got Don in Pennsylvania.

01:26:39.000 Good afternoon, Don.

01:26:40.000 You're on the air.

01:26:41.000 Hi Michael, how are you doing?

01:26:43.000 Good, how are you?

01:26:44.000 I was just curious to let you know that this morning I was watching MSNBC and right behind them they had a whole bunch of things of where's the weapons of mass destruction, etc, etc.

01:26:53.000 You know, protesters as far as that.

01:26:56.000 And what was that bill there for the Social Security for Mexico there?

01:27:00.000 It's the totalization treaty.

01:27:04.000 You know, there is no bill number or anything.

01:27:08.000 No, you know, I haven't got that far with it, but what you do is you go to usbc.org, the USBC, which stands for the U.S.

01:27:16.000 Border Control, dot org, usbc.org.

01:27:19.000 You go to that website, there is a full complement of information about that treaty.

01:27:23.000 Bush is trying to sneak it through.

01:27:25.000 So you have to spend a little time digging into it, because it's buried.

01:27:33.000 And as I said yesterday when I was talking about it, the timing Uh, is very suspicious because it's geared to slam it through while Congress is not in session.

01:27:41.000 Uh, and most of them are out, you know, campaigning.

01:27:46.000 So, and we have less than 30 days to get it repealed.

01:27:49.000 Uh, I think it's going to become a reality if enough people don't, uh, get up and tell their congressmen that they want it repealed.

01:27:57.000 Well no, I've already, you know, with that in mind I'll just call my senators here in Pennsylvania, but the other thing is I did call about my, you know, representatives about Ron Paul's Bill there for changing legal tender on the notes that we have.

01:28:14.000 And I got a response back and it just said I was very interested, I never knew about it. 0.98

01:28:18.000 So they're about as ignorant as most of the people are. 0.97

01:28:23.000 And at the same time I just received in the mail the Patriot Act. 1.00

01:28:27.000 Don, we've got to go.

01:28:29.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you right there, but we've got to go.

01:28:31.000 We're on a break here.

01:28:32.000 Thanks for your call.

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01:32:38.000 Aside from listening to Alex on his program.

01:32:42.000 Now, we're waiting for Alex to join us.

01:32:44.000 He's going to call in from New York live, and he's going to give us an update on what's going on out there.

01:32:49.000 And as soon as he calls in, we'll get him on with us.

01:32:53.000 And let's continue with calls.

01:32:55.000 We've got Ron calling in from New York.

01:32:57.000 Good afternoon, Ron.

01:32:58.000 You're on the air.

01:32:59.000 Good afternoon, Michael.

01:33:00.000 Hi.

01:33:01.000 You know, after three days, actually four days of protest, I've come to a conclusion.

01:33:06.000 And it's an educated conclusion because, of course, I was called yesterday.

01:33:09.000 You know my background.

01:33:10.000 Right.

01:33:11.000 I know how to decipher things.

01:33:13.000 I understand the tactics that are utilized under normal conditions and normal circumstances.

01:33:18.000 I have to say that I do believe the tactics that are being utilized here, that have been designed, were not so much motivated, I think, out of practical police necessity, As out of political necessity.

01:33:33.000 Sure.

01:33:34.000 And in doing so, that is where they made a big problem.

01:33:37.000 Now you have tactics being used where, first off, and this pretty much is unprecedented in the history of this city, and it's dealing with major protests within living memory, groups who applied for permits were denied permits.

01:33:53.000 Now that is ridiculous, and as I said, unprecedented, especially in light of such a major national political event, maybe even international political event, where you have a convention being held by the ruling party and the ruling administration.

01:34:09.000 They would have been wiser to issue those permits. 0.86

01:34:13.000 They would have had more of a controlling factor, and I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm talking about things done in an orderly factor.

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:22.000 So nothing could degenerate into disorder.

01:34:24.000 Sure.

01:34:25.000 However, it does have to be said, and I can't stress this enough, Still, the vast majority of those who are protesting are non-violent and non-incendiary.

01:34:38.000 It's a very small percentage.

01:34:41.000 Many of the conflicts that even occur, that being said, Or not that the protesters are necessarily initiating aggression.

01:34:51.000 They're reacting to aggression being initiated to them.

01:34:55.000 They're not drawing first blood in the majority of the cases.

01:34:59.000 I won't say 100%, but I will say in the majority of the cases.

01:35:02.000 Now on the other side, you not only have tactics that are designed with politics more in mind, Then, police practicality and necessity.

01:35:12.000 You have police, and your national audience may not know this, who are sitting out there doing 12-hour tours under a very hot August sun.

01:35:21.000 Many of them are a little frazzled under the collar already because they're frustrated with their ability to get a proper wage and have a contract settlement.

01:35:29.000 And I believe some part of what's happening is, and maybe it was engineered this way, Is that that aggravation is building up and they're focusing their aggression towards the protesters because maybe they are upset with the administration not handling or listening to their cries for, you know, economic upward social mobility and they're refocusing those energies in the wrong direction.

01:35:53.000 On top of that, the tactics, as I said, are poorly designed.

01:35:57.000 Um, and if the protesters are so violent, there is one glaring fact which cannot be omitted, which has not been mentioned in the mainstream.

01:36:05.000 Yeah.

01:36:06.000 If you had tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of protesters who went berserk, which is not the case, but this is the way the mainstream media is trying to plant it and portray it and spin it, Then you would have a large number of corresponding police injuries.

01:36:21.000 Now, to the best of my knowledge, and I have a little more knowledge than the average layman, because I'm still connected to that society, okay?

01:36:27.000 There have practically been no police injuries.

01:36:27.000 Yeah.

01:36:30.000 So how violent could these tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of protesters have been?

01:36:35.000 Mm-hmm.

01:36:36.000 Yeah.

01:36:37.000 Ron, very good point.

01:36:38.000 I've got to move on.

01:36:39.000 We've got Alex.

01:36:40.000 We're going to take him up right now, okay?

01:36:40.000 He's on the phone.

01:36:43.000 All right, thanks for your call.

01:36:44.000 And reporting live from New York, Alex Jones is on the ground out there at the Republican National Convention.

01:36:50.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:36:51.000 How are things going out there?

01:36:53.000 Oh, it's a beautiful day here in New York.

01:36:55.000 It's actually cooled down a little bit from 95 degrees to about 85 degrees.

01:36:58.000 And what Ron from New York was just saying is absolutely correct.

01:37:02.000 You have small cadres of these anarchists, led by Fed.

01:37:07.000 We've had them even threaten us.

01:37:09.000 And they go out, and in the middle of a peaceful demonstration, will hit a cop or throw a bottle or set something on fire out in the street, and then the police will come in and attack the general public en masse.

01:37:22.000 And last night, of course, I was in the convention for Arnold Schwarzenegger's speech and the rest of them.

01:37:28.000 The Schwarzeneggers, Maria Shriver was there in the presidential box with George Herbert Walker, Bush 41, and the Schwarzeneggers' four children, who you rarely see out in the light of day, who live up in a resort town in Idaho.

01:37:43.000 They were there, his two small sons and his two older daughters, and Arnold got up there and actually used, we will not falter, we will not waver, we will not, he was using all these Hitlerian quotes.

01:37:54.000 He was talking about homeland security.

01:37:57.000 And then Arnold talked about how when the Soviets had control of Austria for a little while at the end of World War II, when he was a small child, how he would ride around with his father and his uncles and how they were afraid, they'd be questioned, how you weren't allowed to look at the police in the eyes, and how people were disappeared.

01:38:16.000 And I went, wait a minute.

01:38:17.000 If you look at the police in the eyes here, they'll get in your face or attack you.

01:38:20.000 Yeah.

01:38:22.000 If you're videotaping in public, they'll come after you many times, admitting there's no law.

01:38:26.000 People are being disappeared.

01:38:28.000 Lawyers who represent people who are being charged with terrorism are being charged with terrorism themselves.

01:38:33.000 The Patriot Act sets it up where they can secretly arrest citizens.

01:38:37.000 And it was just frightening to be right there, very close to Schwarzenegger.

01:38:41.000 Side passage, you know, right down to the floor to see Schwarzenegger just on this complete and total power trip.

01:38:47.000 And to see Orrin Hatch also there in one of the elite boxes, Senator Orrin Hatch, who said he wants to get rid of the 22nd Amendment so Arnold could be president.

01:38:58.000 A guy who has said that he admires Hitler and wants to be like him, who loves Kurt Voltheim.

01:39:03.000 Regardless of the fact that he's a Nazi. 0.69

01:39:05.000 Just all of this, to see this happening and to know how the Bushes were connected to the Nazis up until the early 50s, And again, if you were just joining us, we're not precarious either, folks.

01:39:14.000 The point is they control both sides of the equation.

01:39:17.000 And there are just massive protests going on all over New York, continually.

01:39:22.000 And again, on Sunday it was 300,000 plus, and the media said thousands.

01:39:28.000 Now they have arrested over a thousand people and they're being held being moved right now There's me a protest four o'clock up a few hours They're being moved to a park by a train station where they put up fences around them literally an open-air camp and They're supposedly going to be a big demonstration there things might Might get violent there because the anarchists are saying they're going to stay some type of riot So things are really really heating up of course

01:39:56.000 Lord Bush has not arrived in town yet, but Cheney's been here all week, and we will continue to cover this as it develops, Michael.

01:40:04.000 Very good, and you were reporting yesterday that you were anticipating some wild excitement last night.

01:40:10.000 How did things go last night?

01:40:12.000 There were a lot of arrests.

01:40:14.000 The police beat the living daylights out of a whole bunch of people almost for nothing.

01:40:19.000 I personally saw police dogs jumping up and snapping at men, women, and children.

01:40:25.000 You have the shopping district down around Madison Square Garden, and the police basically used to get in there.

01:40:31.000 You go through about eight different checkpoints, but then the police have set up quasi-checkpoints about four or five blocks outside that, outside the so-called national security perimeter.

01:40:41.000 And I personally saw two women, elderly women, I'm elderly, 70 plus years old, with their shopping bags dressed with their pearl necklaces walking nowhere near the convention center and these two police dogs just run up to them and start snapping and barking and they're freaking out and the police are digging through their bags.

01:41:01.000 It's just total insanity basically and we are, we are in a city That is under martial law.

01:41:07.000 The police will threaten to arrest you for videotaping even though they admit there's no law.

01:41:11.000 They have personally smashed cameras of women in front of me, made me erase tapes.

01:41:16.000 They have done this to other journalists right in front of me.

01:41:19.000 It is just incredible.

01:41:21.000 And then you go inside of the facility and they check your badges over and over and over and over and over again.

01:41:27.000 And this is a city under martial law.

01:41:30.000 Swarms of helicopters.

01:41:32.000 Regular Army, National Guard, police in the black helmets with the AR-15s and the Heckler & Koch assault rifles, and none of it has anything to do with terrorism.

01:41:44.000 This is all a massive conditioning process to train the public how to submit to this tyranny, Michael.

01:41:50.000 Absolutely.

01:41:52.000 And it's egregious.

01:41:53.000 I think it's very egregious.

01:41:54.000 It's awful.

01:41:56.000 Now, the mainstream establishment media is reporting basically in a nutshell that all is well there.

01:42:02.000 They're reporting a low number of arrests.

01:42:04.000 What can you tell us about the numbers of arrests that are really taking place out there?

01:42:09.000 Well, that's the funny thing.

01:42:10.000 You know, I got in about one o'clock in the morning after just covering this all day yesterday.

01:42:15.000 Well, no, there were some big developments at Ground Zero I can get to in a second.

01:42:18.000 And I turned on CNN, and they said, a few hundred arrests all week, all is well, everything's great.

01:42:25.000 Everyone loves Bush in New York, all these interviews with New Yorkers, they just love it.

01:42:29.000 Turned on Fox, same propaganda, everybody loves it, a few hundred arrests.

01:42:33.000 And then you turn to local New York channels, as of yesterday, over a thousand arrests.

01:42:39.000 People being moved out of the jails now to this huge pen that's got, again, over a thousand people.

01:42:44.000 Arrests going on everywhere for the most petty of reasons, and I saw a big arrest yesterday.

01:42:49.000 A big peace march, a peaceful peace march, was gathering on a main avenue by the Millennium Hilton Hotel, right across the street from Ground Zero, and the new Building 7 they've almost completed the constructing.

01:43:05.000 Can we get there and there are hundreds of police lined up in black helmets with machine guns and I start interviewing them trying to talk to them and this New York police officer in plumbing clothes is sitting there with a big camera taking pictures of everybody and I get in his face and he pushes me I tell him that's assault Then across the street, you have the Peace March rally, and there were so many of them that obviously they were getting out into the street.

01:43:29.000 There was no way.

01:43:30.000 It was just a huge mass of people.

01:43:32.000 And so the police just moved in and arrested over 100 people right there, cracked some heads.

01:43:38.000 Just swarming all over the place, so this is indicative of what you see.

01:43:42.000 Then I saw Neil Bortz, the Seneca Talk Show host.

01:43:45.000 I'm sitting there, the neocon.

01:43:47.000 I'm sitting there, the ultra-liberal Neil Bortz.

01:43:50.000 I'm sitting there talking to cops about Operation Northwoods and about PNAC and government prior knowledge and all this, and I'm telling them, wake up and please check out what I'm saying.

01:43:58.000 Go to prisonpilot.com, look at the 9-11 section, go to infowarx.com.

01:44:02.000 Go to the 9-11 section.

01:44:03.000 Just please check out these keywords.

01:44:04.000 Type it in the main search engine.

01:44:06.000 It's Library of Congress, Government, Atlantis, 9-11.

01:44:10.000 And I look to my right, and there's Neil Bort sitting there just laughing at me.

01:44:14.000 Sure.

01:44:14.000 I look at the camera in his face, and I go, well, tell us why we're wrong.

01:44:18.000 You're a pilot, Neil.

01:44:19.000 I've heard you talk about it.

01:44:20.000 If your set is off course for a few minutes, jets are launched, intercept.

01:44:23.000 But on this day, for an hour and 25 minutes, nothing's done.

01:44:27.000 And he goes, you've got to pay me $2,000 to talk to you.

01:44:30.000 I'm all about money, and I've got to have $2,000 to even talk to you.

01:44:33.000 I make more than $2,000 an hour.

01:44:35.000 He was really obnoxious.

01:44:36.000 So I started ranting and raving at him, and he finally started to get it, and then basically scurried off.

01:44:41.000 But this is just what's ongoing.

01:44:44.000 And the feeling of evil and oppression inside the Republican National Convention is amazing.

01:44:49.000 And it's kind of a paradox.

01:44:51.000 You see all these evil controllers and media people and congressmen and senators with all their voting records of big government and control and tyranny acting like they're conservative, and then to watch the speeches that all sound great but are diametrically opposed to the reality of what they're doing, it's...

01:45:08.000 It's just disgusting. 0.82

01:45:09.000 This is Babylon.

01:45:10.000 This is martial law.

01:45:12.000 This is a police state.

01:45:14.000 And this is what all of America is going to be, and Michael, I'll tell you.

01:45:18.000 I don't have anything against police, but obviously when you're in a restaurant or something or three or four cops will kind of look at them and you might feel a little uncomfortable sometimes.

01:45:26.000 Whatever, because it's, you know, the authority and the oppression of what this country's turned into.

01:45:31.000 Now I've been desensitized because there's so many tens of thousands of police that you don't even notice they're there.

01:45:37.000 And I'm used to showing my ID all over the city, even outside the security perimeter.

01:45:43.000 I'm now used to holding up my badge, being inspected, being checked.

01:45:48.000 I've caught myself yesterday being acclimated to this and being totally used to being searched and inspected and parodied and questioned by stern men bugging their eyes out at me.

01:45:57.000 And understand, I'm clean cut.

01:45:59.000 This is happening to me.

01:46:00.000 They're doing it to old ladies, black ladies, white ladies. 1.00

01:46:04.000 They're doing it to young people. 0.84

01:46:06.000 They're doing it to everybody.

01:46:07.000 It is, and they know full well we're not terrorists.

01:46:10.000 They're just doing this en masse.

01:46:13.000 And they think they're doing the right thing.

01:46:14.000 Oh, this is to protect society.

01:46:15.000 This is to take care of everything.

01:46:17.000 And that's not what's happening.

01:46:18.000 No, and as Ron, the caller from New York, mentioned yesterday, what he sees is he sees the new, up-and-coming, younger cops who have no conscience or no moral compass, and they're more than happy, just like automatons, to execute programs and do what they're told to do and hustle us and treat us like cattle.

01:46:40.000 Well, you're absolutely right, and that's what's happening, Michael.

01:46:44.000 Alex, I think we're losing you.

01:46:45.000 Are you there?

01:46:47.000 Yes, I am.

01:46:47.000 Can you hear me now?

01:46:48.000 Yeah, you're fine now.

01:46:48.000 Go ahead.

01:46:49.000 Good.

01:46:49.000 You know New York, all these big buildings.

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:52.000 But today we're going to be doing a 4 o'clock protest covering that.

01:46:57.000 I'll be back in the convention covering Dick Cheney's speech tonight.

01:47:02.000 And we're going to be back in the Financial District just bringing and exposing what's happening there.

01:47:06.000 We've interviewed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.

01:47:12.000 Another lie we're hearing is that all these New Yorkers just love what's happening.

01:47:15.000 I don't think I've found more than one or two New Yorkers that like what's going on.

01:47:20.000 In fact, the cab drivers say this is the worst business they've ever had.

01:47:23.000 People that have appeared 15, 20 years.

01:47:25.000 The city is half empty.

01:47:27.000 At night, you look at the buildings, almost all the lights are out at 9 o'clock in them.

01:47:32.000 Half the city plus has left.

01:47:34.000 They're so disgusted by what's happened.

01:47:36.000 It is such a tragedy, I think it is.

01:47:39.000 It's such a tragedy that things are coming to this point.

01:47:43.000 I'll tell you Michael, everybody I've talked to says that, even Republicans, that they're trying to exploit 9-11, they're trying to use those deaths, they're trying to act like they're the good guys saving us.

01:47:56.000 And then we see the speeches, that's all they talk about. 0.73

01:47:59.000 It's disgusting. 0.75

01:48:00.000 Absolutely.

01:48:01.000 Let me ask you this, are you going to hold over to the next segment or are you going to go?

01:48:05.000 Sure, I'll hold over to the next segment.

01:48:06.000 Okay, well then let's continue because I know what's planned for tomorrow and Friday on your program.

01:48:13.000 Erskine's going to take over?

01:48:14.000 Sure, he's going to be there.

01:48:16.000 And if you'd like to sit in with him, of course, you're welcome to come on for an hour or two with him.

01:48:20.000 We're going to have Paul Watson with his daily analysis joining you, of course, and I'll be calling in with my regular report about what develops, and I'll also be calling in with a report in the middle of the broadcast on Friday, kind of the aftermath of everything that happened here.

01:48:36.000 Okay, good.

01:48:37.000 And of course, I applaud you for what you're doing out there.

01:48:41.000 I know it's got to be really hard under the circumstances with the oppression and the evil that you note.

01:48:47.000 It's got to be an incredible undertaking.

01:48:50.000 Well, I'll tell you, some people went to the Boston convention and said, oh, it's all for show.

01:48:56.000 The security isn't really that tight.

01:48:57.000 It's not really that high.

01:48:58.000 And I've talked to reporters who were at Boston and are now here.

01:49:01.000 They say this is at least 20 times what it was in Boston.

01:49:06.000 It is a palpable feeling of oppression.

01:49:09.000 I personally have been threatened with arrest three times for videotaping publicly on the street.

01:49:13.000 This is with press credentials with a film crew behind me.

01:49:16.000 So they're setting the precedent in America where we are surveilled, we are watched, we are tracked, we are traced, but then we pull out cameras even as members of the press.

01:49:25.000 And we're being threatened.

01:49:27.000 And you say, well, is there a law?

01:49:28.000 And they go, no, this is just the way things are now.

01:49:31.000 So it's all about the exercise of power.

01:49:34.000 It's a process of domestication.

01:49:38.000 We're going to come back and get with you after the break.

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01:53:13.000 And now, live from New York, Alex Jones is on the line here with us, and he's giving us a live update on what's going on at the Republican National Convention.

01:53:22.000 And as you're hearing, folks, it's very evil and oppressive.

01:53:25.000 uh... and the police state is uh... is definitely in full swing at least in new york for right now uh... alex welcome back well thanks michael yeah i've talked a lot of russia i've talked a lot of russians And Chinese and others, and they say their countries are not like this.

01:53:41.000 But here they are, up on television, about how we're fighting for freedom, we're giving you freedom.

01:53:46.000 Oh my gosh, I couldn't look people in the eyes in Austria growing up, but I can here in America.

01:53:52.000 Believe me, you look a cop in the eyes here.

01:53:53.000 We talked about that before our speech.

01:53:55.000 It will get in your face, most of them.

01:53:57.000 They're on a power trip.

01:53:59.000 They love it.

01:53:59.000 They want to be part of this tyranny.

01:54:01.000 They want to be part of this control.

01:54:02.000 I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of them.

01:54:05.000 And it is frightening, and it's sad to see our country turning into this.

01:54:09.000 I mean, they say the terrorists attacked us because they hated our freedom.

01:54:13.000 Well, then why is our government destroying our freedom unless they are the terrorists?

01:54:16.000 Then you look at the evidence.

01:54:17.000 Yes, they are the terrorists.

01:54:18.000 They are the people that carried out 9-11. 1.00

01:54:21.000 And that's what we've all got to work harder than ever, because they smell blood, they want total control, they want to dominate, Michael, and they think they've got us on the run, but they don't.

01:54:32.000 And I tell you, that's the elite themselves.

01:54:35.000 The establishment minions are scared to death.

01:54:37.000 They know the people aren't buying the propaganda.

01:54:40.000 I talked about that Zogby poll where 40-plus percent think the government was behind 9-11.

01:54:44.000 That's on the Zogby website, but you don't hear that on the nightly news.

01:54:47.000 No.

01:54:47.000 No, it's on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

01:54:51.000 And, you know, they get up there and talk about getting rid of big government.

01:54:54.000 The government has doubled its growth rate under Bush.

01:54:57.000 Doubled what it was under Clinton.

01:54:58.000 And no, I'm not saying vote for Clinton.

01:55:00.000 These people are all on the same team and they fool us with this false left-right system.

01:55:05.000 Yeah, let's talk real quick in the moments we have remaining here.

01:55:08.000 Talk about your film, American Dictators, because this is exactly what you're talking about.

01:55:14.000 Sure, a new video that we put out is American Dictators.

01:55:17.000 It's 90 minutes long, shorter than most of my videos.

01:55:19.000 And we go into Bush, Kerry, and how they're cousins, and how they're skull and bones, and how it's staged, and what their policies are, and what the police state is.

01:55:27.000 And we revisit Bohemian Grove.

01:55:28.000 I went back to Bohemian Grove and talked to locals, and that's covered in the film.

01:55:32.000 There's a bunch of different rallies and protests in the film.

01:55:35.000 It's a great video.

01:55:37.000 American Dictators, it's only $20, $19.95, and I would challenge people to get it, to get it now during the election, and to make copies of it, and to put it on AXS TV and get it out to people.

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01:56:06.000 Very good.

01:56:07.000 And also, just want to mention, at prisonplanet.tv, they can watch that.

01:56:11.000 If there's a subscriber to that, they can watch that online.

01:56:15.000 That's right.

01:56:16.000 All of my videos, a bunch of other great videos by other people, my book, Paul Watson's book, all the best radio interviews we do, text reports weekly, it's all there at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:56:28.000 I'm so thankful, Michael, for you filling in for me.

01:56:30.000 You've done a fabulous job.

01:56:31.000 I'm going to get out of here so you can come back and take calls and cover news in the next hour.

01:56:35.000 Of course, I'll be back live Monday in studio in Austin, Texas.

01:56:40.000 I'm very thankful to the network.

01:56:41.000 Yes, and Alex, I want to thank you.

01:56:43.000 I've enjoyed it.

01:56:44.000 Number one, to the listeners of God, because we are in this fight against pure evil, and we are going to win.

01:56:49.000 The lies must be exposed, must be defeated.

01:56:51.000 Yes, and Alex, I want to thank you.

01:56:53.000 I've enjoyed it.

01:56:54.000 It's been an honor to fill in for you.

01:56:56.000 And I'm looking forward to you getting back from New York and getting back in your chair there, okay?

01:57:02.000 All right?

01:57:03.000 Well, thanks a million, my friend.

01:57:05.000 God bless.

01:57:05.000 All right, same to you, Alex.

01:57:06.000 Take care.

01:57:07.000 And again, that's Alex Jones in New York at the Republican Convention, and he's going to be back tomorrow to give an update with Erskine.

01:57:15.000 We're going to take the break, and when we come back, we will continue with your calls.

01:57:19.000 Also, coming up next hour, Paul David Collins is going to join me.

01:57:23.000 Now, Paul is the author of The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

01:57:25.000 I thought it would be a really good thing to talk about in light of what's going on now.

01:57:29.000 We're going to get down to how terrorism is state-sponsored.

01:57:33.000 And maybe fill in some other blanks.

01:57:35.000 I'm Michael Corbett, singing for Alex Jones.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 And again, Michael Corbin, host of A Closer Look, sitting in for Alex Jones, who again, as you just heard, is in New York covering the Republican National Convention.

01:58:16.000 Again, I'm on with you today for the duration, and then Erskine is going to take over tomorrow and Friday, and Alex will return live on Monday from Austin, Texas, armed with a load of information and videos and documentation of what's going on in New York, what's really happening in New York, which the mainstream media or the media establishment, as it's called, is not reporting to you.

01:58:41.000 So you're getting the straight scoop right here.

01:58:44.000 on the Alex Jones Show on the Genesis Communications Network and welcome back.

01:58:48.000 Now, what we're going to do is we're going to talk with an author of a book that raises serious questions about the contentions of self-anointed terrorist experts that populate the Orthodox academia.

01:59:00.000 Now from ancient Rome to the World Trade Center, Paul Collins presents largely ignored or understated facts to show that the majority of terrorist acts throughout history have been state-sponsored enterprises.

01:59:12.000 Now in turn, The national governments that sponsor terrorism are merely implementation instruments of a criminal elite suffering from Olympian delirium.

01:59:21.000 Well, the final objective of this ruling class conspiracy, of course, is the completion of an enormous social engineering project, the outcome of which could hold serious ramifications for human civilization as we know it.

01:59:34.000 And, of course, a lot of this stuff is unfolding right before our very eyes.

01:59:39.000 Now, the author is Paul David Collins.

01:59:41.000 He studied suppressed history and the shadowy undercurrents of world political dynamics for roughly 11 years.

01:59:48.000 In 1999, he completed his Associates of Arts and Science degree.

01:59:52.000 He will soon complete his BA with a major in Communications and a minor in Political Science.

01:59:57.000 He's a member of the Phi Theta Kappa and Phi Kappa Phi Honor Societies.

02:00:01.000 Throughout the course of his ongoing college career, he has extensively researched Political science, criminal justice, psychology, philosophy, and religion.

02:00:10.000 All necessary ingredients in trying to understand what is going on in the world today.

02:00:18.000 Welcome, Paul.

02:00:19.000 Thank you for being on the program.

02:00:20.000 Thank you for having me, Michael.

02:00:21.000 It's a pleasure.

02:00:22.000 Now, what I'd like to do is I want to get down to bringing this topic to the current state of events.

02:00:30.000 You know, we're talking about what is taking place Understood.

02:00:33.000 world with the terrorist attacks of 9-11.

02:00:35.000 Alex Jones being on the ground in New York, giving us live updates about what's going on there.

02:00:40.000 And of course, the 9-11 Commission report coming out, which completely glossed over and omitted huge pieces of truth about what really happened.

02:00:50.000 And I want to kind of peel back some of these layers and get down to what's really taking place here.

02:00:55.000 Understood.

02:00:56.000 Yes, yes.

02:00:57.000 So let's begin.

02:00:59.000 You Your book, The Hidden Face of Terrorism, is about, I guess basically uncovering the dynamics of what terrorism is all about.

02:01:08.000 Yes, what I do is I basically tear apart the contention that mainstream orthodox University professors teach in their classes that basically what they teach is that terrorism is carried out by groups that are in no way connected with national governments, in no way connected with powerful people.

02:01:30.000 They're just disenfranchised lone nuts that believe radical and lunatic fringe sort of ideologies.

02:01:40.000 And they're venting their frustrations and their angers and And what not, through violent means and methods.

02:01:48.000 However, if you look throughout history, many of these groups, these terrorist organizations, have been connected in some way to a national government that is utilizing that group to steer society.

02:02:04.000 And it's more about social engineering than it is about a lone group just trying to make a statement through violence.

02:02:14.000 And the national governments in turn are controlled by a criminal elite who are hoping to, through shock and trauma, revert man back to a tabula rasa, a blank slate.

02:02:28.000 Okay, hold that right there.

02:02:30.000 We'll take a break when we come back.

02:02:31.000 Paul David Collins is my guest.

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02:06:26.000 So we continue and my guest right now is Paul David Collins, author of The Hidden Face of Terrorism, The Dark Side of Social Engineering from Antiquity to September the 11th.

02:06:37.000 Paul, welcome back.

02:06:40.000 Paul, are you there?

02:06:41.000 Yeah, I'm right here.

02:06:43.000 Anyway, let's get back into this topic, because this is so vitally important to understanding what's going on.

02:06:49.000 Now, you said something during the last segment I want to go to, and that is that these national governments are being controlled by a criminal elite, or a criminal cabal.

02:07:01.000 That is so telling, because Sabelle Edmonds, who is an FBI whistleblower who was fired from her job in 2002, was approached While working in the FBI by what she called a foreign intelligence group, but it was not connected to any particular country.

02:07:19.000 That's correct.

02:07:20.000 That's correct.

02:07:24.000 See, that's where these militia groups back during the mid-90s got everything wrong.

02:07:30.000 They believed that it was simply national governments that were corrupt and whatnot and rotten to the core that were behind this, and as a result we had a lot of of violent ideas with them where they believe that you basically had to tear down the national political structure.

02:07:51.000 The truth is that beyond the political structure are individuals that are pulling the strings of that political structure of very powerful financiers, international banking cartels, and basically individuals who would like to see society

02:08:10.000 shaped along more oligarchical lines, such as the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Fords, the different very powerful, very wealthy dynasties that have generational wealth that they have built up over time.

02:08:28.000 Now, let's break this down a little bit more, because I think, again, we can go back into history, as the subtitle of your book indicates, Antiquity, to September the 11th.

02:08:38.000 How does this dynamic get set up?

02:08:40.000 In other words, how do we come to this point?

02:08:42.000 Well, it began over thousands of years ago with the father of Nimrud, Kesh, which his name means confounder or confusion, where he would send bandits into different city-states or whatnot that he wished to take over.

02:09:00.000 They would cause chaos and go around committing criminal acts and basically cause things to degenerate into a state of

02:09:09.000 Anarchy, a climate of lawlessness, and then he would arrive on the scene and they would just magically stop because, you know, they were basically under his control and he'd act like he was there to restore order and they would make him the king or the leading authority in that city-state.

02:09:30.000 And then the idea was recycled by the Freemasons through their dictum of Ordo Abkaio, but The whole concept of creating and managing crisis in order to reshape human thinking was really brought forward to our modern day primarily through the Tavistock Institute, which was supposedly founded in, I believe, 1921 by Major John Rawlings-Reese.

02:09:56.000 And the whole Masonic dictum of Ordu Apcheo was recycled by Tavistock and became known as Societry.

02:10:04.000 And basically, society is the idea that by inducing shock and trauma, you can reduce the human population back to a childlike state.

02:10:13.000 And when you're a child, your suggestibility is extremely high.

02:10:19.000 Right.

02:10:20.000 And you'd also be basically a tabula rasa, a blank slate that the elite would write upon.

02:10:27.000 And of course, certain bluebloods love the idea, and that's why the Rockefeller Foundation ...gave the Tavistock Foundation a grant of significant size. 0.98

02:10:39.000 We must never think that groups like the Rockefeller Foundation, that these tax-exempt foundations are about philanthropy.

02:10:49.000 They are designed to, A, shield the Blue Bloods' money from the income tax, and B, pour their money into projects That steer society in the direction that the elite want it to go. 0.97

02:11:04.000 And we all know the direction that they want it to go because old man John D. Rockefeller made it clear as crystal when he said that, quote, the age of the individual is at an end, unquote.

02:11:16.000 They obviously want a collectivist society, a beehive kind of mentality to exist amongst the people and the individuals.

02:11:27.000 To cease to exist and more of a drone kind of creature to emerge from all the chaos.

02:11:34.000 So hence the creation of the socialist ideology, which is a tool that they use to achieve their end of collectivism and basically eradicating the individual.

02:11:48.000 Exactly.

02:11:49.000 It's very important that our friends on the left begin to start stripping away the idealistic garb That the whole socialist ideology has been dressed in, and start to see what it really does.

02:12:04.000 It places power, it concentrates power in an entity that the elites can control, which is government.

02:12:10.000 And through government, they'll simply regulate and restrict all their competition out of existence until they have a huge monopoly Over that country's resources, over that country's industry.

02:12:28.000 Communism is the ultimate monopoly.

02:12:31.000 And this gives those on the left heartburn, but it's a sad but true fact.

02:12:38.000 You can look all throughout history.

02:12:41.000 And see where the so-called working class movement had been subverted by elites and by oligarchical types.

02:12:50.000 As a matter of fact, Oswald Spengler, in his book, The Decline of the West, stated that there was no working class movement, not even communist, that had not been directed in the direction that it was going.

02:13:09.000 by anything less than big money.

02:13:11.000 Absolutely, and you know that kind of brings me to the to the father of Marxism, Karl Marx himself.

02:13:18.000 He himself was financed by this this shadowy elite, if you will, and he is the one that basically engineered the socialist platform.

02:13:29.000 Go ahead and talk about that.

02:13:30.000 Yes, Lord Palmerston, who was in Britain And with a huge figure, a very influential figure in Freemasonry, had sponsored Karl Marx.

02:13:44.000 And Karl Marx's friend, the anarchist Bakunin, once sneered and said, well, you know, the communists have one foot in the revolution and then another In the banking community.

02:14:01.000 Karl Marx himself was sponsored also by Frederick Engels, who was living off of the money that his father had made through capitalist ventures.

02:14:15.000 And if you look at the end of Das Kapital, he posits a fight between communism

02:14:24.000 and uh... capitalism but he does not state how that would end and if if communism was the end that he had intended then then then why did what why you with all the uh... other synthesis throughout history did we see both uh... opposing sides uh... it didn't emerge together it's obvious that he had something

02:14:48.000 else in mind other than a utopian society where there was no classes and we were all joined together singing kumbaya?

02:14:56.000 Yeah.

02:14:57.000 And speaking of synthesis, that brings us to the Hegelian dialectic.

02:15:02.000 In other words, we look at what's going on today.

02:15:05.000 Alex Jones' new video, American Dictators, documenting the staged elections of 2004, he illustrates that no matter who you vote for when it comes to the bipartisan platform, no matter who you vote for, the New World Order still wins because They are both controlled by the same entity that is undermining our country.

02:15:29.000 That's correct.

02:15:31.000 Basically what's happening this year is that with this election, we see the elite following the prescriptions given unto them by Carol Quigley in his book, Tragedy and Hope.

02:15:44.000 In his book he said, you know, have both sides be controlled by the same group.

02:15:52.000 So that it appeared that you were just simply clearing the house and cleaning it out and throwing the rascals out, when in fact you just had the same group under a different appellation and different garb.

02:16:09.000 And we see that with John Kerry and Bush because both have dynastical backgrounds, both have blue blood backgrounds, a pedigree in the elite.

02:16:21.000 And both are also part of the secretive Skull and Bones Society and Skull and Bones is all about statist ideas.

02:16:31.000 They're all about the idea of doing away with individualism.

02:16:39.000 Yeah, and that's exactly what their ultimate goal is.

02:16:44.000 Now, Paul, we're going to take a break.

02:16:46.000 When we come back, we'll continue.

02:16:48.000 Give out information real quick where people can get your book.

02:16:50.000 Okay, the book is available on the Amazon.com website and on Barnes & Noble website and also at www.authorhouse.com.

02:17:05.000 That book is available and also the other book that I co-authored with my brother, The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship, is available at Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.com and I think that right now they're selling On Amazon.com, both books as part of a package deal.

02:17:26.000 Okay, hold that thought.

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02:22:07.000 I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who again is in New York covering the Republican National Convention.

02:22:15.000 And as you heard him say last hour, the atmosphere, the ambiance of the event is evil and very oppressive and uh... it's almost scary do you think that new york would roll up at nine o'clock at night but as i said it's like a ghost town

02:22:31.000 uh... and that's uh... is such a tragedy it is such a tragedy anyway joining me is paul david collins author of the hidden face of terrorism the dark side of social engineering from antiquity to september the eleventh we're trying to uh... basically unravel some of the dynamics the core of the game uh... that is on that is a foot

02:22:51.000 And again, I highly encourage you to check out Alex's new documentary, American Dictators, documenting the staged election of 2004, because again, this whole thing is a plan.

02:23:03.000 It's a social engineering game.

02:23:05.000 9-11 was a game to, and I don't mean to diminish the weight of that whole thing, but it is a game to the masters, to the New World Order architects.

02:23:16.000 It is basically to disenfranchise us, to strike fear And as Paul is saying, to erase your mind, so to speak, so that the elite can write on a new clean slate.

02:23:28.000 That is the whole function of terrorism, the aesthetic of terror, if you will.

02:23:33.000 And Paul, welcome back.

02:23:34.000 Thank you, Michael.

02:23:35.000 Let's grab a couple of calls really quick here.

02:23:37.000 We've got Jan calling in from Colorado.

02:23:41.000 Good afternoon, Jan.

02:23:41.000 You're on the air.

02:23:42.000 Good afternoon.

02:23:45.000 I would like to say that I'm a new lister and I I'm thrilled that you're speaking out against the Patriot Act and some things that are completely eroding what this country represents.

02:23:58.000 Absolutely.

02:23:59.000 Your guest, however, who seems to be laying the blame on socialism for our lack of liberties, seems to be confused.

02:24:14.000 Taxpayers over The history of this country, since its founding, have paid for public utility lines, railway lines, telephone lines, municipal water systems.

02:24:31.000 Right.

02:24:31.000 And now those are being taken over by corporations.

02:24:34.000 It's being privatized.

02:24:36.000 Okay.

02:24:36.000 Jan, let me interrupt right there and just say that my guest, Paul David Collins, he's not laying the blame on socialism.

02:24:43.000 What he is doing is he's demonstrating How socialism is a tool that is being used to take over not only this country, but the world.

02:24:55.000 I think that maybe corporatism would be a more appropriate name.

02:25:00.000 When you have Dick Cheney in the White House serving Halliburton.

02:25:04.000 When you have General Electric making $600 million.

02:25:07.000 I think that was an old estimate.

02:25:10.000 On this war, when GE owns one of the networks and is spinning Um, positive things about the war.

02:25:18.000 Paul, go ahead and jump in there if you'd like.

02:25:19.000 Go ahead.

02:25:20.000 See, but miss, what you must understand, corporatism or corporate fascism is itself socialism.

02:25:27.000 It's a derivative of the Marxist idea.

02:25:29.000 I would fancy antithesis of socialism.

02:25:33.000 Hitler himself said that the whole of, quote, and I'm quoting here, the whole of National Socialism is based on Marx.

02:25:44.000 So we have the same socialist ideas, just distilled in a different way.

02:25:55.000 I think you can spin anything how you like, but what we're experiencing and what is going on is the antithesis of socialism.

02:26:05.000 Yeah, but would you agree, Jan, that it's the wrong place that we should be going?

02:26:09.000 Absolutely.

02:26:10.000 Yeah, that's the point.

02:26:12.000 I mean, the point is that we've got to take the steps necessary to get our country back, essentially.

02:26:18.000 Thank you for your call.

02:26:19.000 I appreciate it.

02:26:20.000 Okay, and Paul, let's grab one more call.

02:26:25.000 We've got Larry in Arizona.

02:26:26.000 Larry, you're on the air.

02:26:27.000 You've got about one minute or less.

02:26:30.000 Okay, I'll make it real quick.

02:26:31.000 About what you guys were talking about, about how the Rockefellers want us all to be like little worker bees. 0.54

02:26:37.000 Yeah.

02:26:37.000 I was just watching, re-watching a movie last night called The Killing Fields, which I recommend everybody see that movie.

02:26:44.000 It's communism in its purest form, and it shows how they indoctrinate, especially they were aiming at the kids, to tell them not to love your family, you know, the family is bad, we're your family now, love the government, and you can see that's happening in a more subtle way here, the attack on the family, And trying to make us a more communistic society, less individualistic.

02:27:08.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:27:10.000 Hey Larry, thanks for your call and that's a really good recommendation.

02:27:12.000 Thank you again for listening.

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02:31:07.000 Paul David Collins is my guest.

02:31:09.000 The book we're talking about is The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

02:31:11.000 We're peeling away some of the layers here of the game that is going on right before our very eyes to understand the aesthetic of terror, why there is terrorism, and who does it really serve, And welcome back, Paul.

02:31:25.000 And again, thank you for being with me on the program today.

02:31:27.000 Thanks for having me, Michael.

02:31:29.000 Let's grab a call.

02:31:30.000 We've got John in Ohio.

02:31:31.000 Good afternoon, John.

02:31:31.000 You're on the air.

02:31:34.000 Yes, I also agree with the lady that what you're doing on 9-11 and the sponsorship of terrorism by agencies like the CIA and others is very productive, and the opposition to all the pretext for military martial law in police states is very productive, but I agree with her that socialism is the opposite of fascism.

02:31:56.000 Um, and I think it's really very dangerous.

02:31:59.000 I don't belong to any organization, but I have read some socialist websites like WSWS.org and workers.org and others and the idea somehow that Hitler, for instance, was a A socialist is absolutely upside down and backwards.

02:32:18.000 He stole the word socialism because there were millions of people voting for communists and socialists and leftists.

02:32:23.000 It was a very popular word. 0.98

02:32:25.000 So whatever he said was the opposite of his actions, which were to Beat them in the streets, the socialists, the communists, and then put them, before anybody else, into the death camps, and kill them before anybody else.

02:32:38.000 That's why he was supported by the major industrialists, not only in his country, but the military industrial complex in the West, to attack those socialists and leftist forces in Germany, and then to attack the Soviet Union.

02:32:51.000 He bit the hand that fed him, double-crossed him, and went West before he went East. 0.53

02:32:55.000 And that's why the United States finally went to war against them.

02:32:58.000 I think this idea of somehow there's no difference I think is dangerous because I think some conservatives when they change the label from a war on terrorism to a war on communism they would immediately drop their skeptical and rational attitudes and then go and support, total support behind these neocons in the next phase of the PMAC war that these neocons plan against Korea, China, Cuba

02:33:26.000 Or anyone who talks about any kind of a social program for the poor, like Chavez in Venezuela.

02:33:32.000 I fear that because of this psychological weakness, they could be manipulated right behind the warmongering of these neocons, which they are not doing now in the cases of Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

02:33:48.000 John, hold it right there.

02:33:49.000 Let's get some comment from Paul.

02:33:50.000 Paul, go ahead.

02:33:51.000 Well, sir, you do make some good points.

02:33:53.000 However, it must be understood that communism comes from the Latin communis, which means group living.

02:34:03.000 Fascio, which is the word from which we derive fascism, is Italian for group.

02:34:09.000 So both are about group living.

02:34:10.000 Both are about collectivism and the subordination of the individual to the collective and the maintenance of class distinctions.

02:34:19.000 And you fear the neocons, the neocons behind all the pro-family, kind of pro-American rhetoric.

02:34:30.000 If you look very closely at what Bill Buckley of the National Review and what some of these other neocon types are writing, and parallel it, With the writings of Leon Trotsky, then you see that they're almost identical.

02:34:46.000 This idea that you boost, like what Cheney and Bush did when they boosted defense spending, that's not so much about some right-wing radical idea as that is about the Trotskyist idea That you have a military expansionist policy abroad.

02:35:08.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:35:11.000 The Trotskyists oppose the imperialist policies of the CIA, the military industrial complex within the capitalist countries, but they do have the idea that there should be a defense.

02:35:23.000 Against that, among the victims in those third world countries, but that is certainly not the same as the claim that these guys are Trotskyist, these neocons.

02:35:31.000 If they ever had any alleged association with a Trotskyist organization, it was I think as an agent, as a rat, as an informer, and certainly they're the opposite of that right now.

02:35:42.000 And, you know, I do believe you have to protect your Bill of Rights, the protection of minorities, but that's separate. 0.96

02:35:49.000 From having a government where the people control.

02:35:52.000 We're not going to have one kind of government or another, but it's who controls that government.

02:35:56.000 We've got to find a way to put all the means of life and power, the ownership of the media, the ownership of all of the production forces in society into the hands of those who operate them.

02:36:08.000 These neocons, though, began as apologists for Franklin Roosevelt Who's ideas, New Deal ideas and policies came from communists and socialists such as Harry Hopkins and other individuals.

02:36:26.000 That were later found to have been communist moles within his government.

02:36:30.000 Now, what they're really trying to do is save capitalism.

02:36:34.000 And there's a lot of their comments that this was really, by bottom, an anti-socialist, anti-communist, to save capitalism from a rising discontent and a depression, to give a few crumbs, so that the corporate elite could keep the other 99% for themselves.

02:36:49.000 Sir, when you speak of communism, I mean capitalism, which do you speak of?

02:36:54.000 Do you speak of the monopolistic capitalism, or do you speak of free enterprise?

02:37:02.000 Well, I think it's inevitable at this stage in history.

02:37:06.000 You're going to have a monopoly capitalism at this stage of history, and there's no way to go back to a bucolic 200 years ago, small guilds of farmers, you know.

02:37:14.000 But the monopolists always have historically funded left-wing organizations As well as what you would call right-wing fascists.

02:37:25.000 And we see this historically.

02:37:27.000 They would not have done so if they did not see how that whole ideology could be utilized to their advantage.

02:37:38.000 And it can because it concentrates power in government.

02:37:41.000 No, I think it should concentrate power in the hands of the people, the working people, black, white, blue-collar, white-collar, who work in all of the media, who work in all of the factories, all the retail. 0.67

02:37:51.000 Somehow we've got to get our representation elected from those constituencies, rather than these meaningless, geographical constituencies, to take that power away from the globalists, the corporate globalists.

02:38:02.000 And that is the source of their power and it's really separate from, you know, protecting minority rights and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which I agree with. 0.98

02:38:10.000 But I think, you know, this is an economic system that is really at the source of all of this warmongering, driving down our wages to the lowest level in the world, and I just think that You know, things like the New Deal were, if they were, if some enlightened capitalists were for it, was to save their own backside, not to prevent the socialist revolution in the country.

02:38:35.000 And to dribble out a few alternatives to that people power taking over, because they were in great danger with the rise of some of these leftist and socialist movements at the time.

02:38:46.000 So, I don't see it as something where it's a It's socialism.

02:38:50.000 It was really at bottom an anti-socialist maneuver.

02:38:54.000 And the person who called before about the killing fields, you know, Paul Pott was actually supported by the United States.

02:39:01.000 That's one of the propaganda myths that has been...

02:39:04.000 peddled by our corporate media.

02:39:06.000 Paul Pott, Zbigniew Brzezinski, supported Paul Pott as a way of bloodying and bleeding Vietnam for the hubris of defeating the United States. 0.79

02:39:19.000 And the United States actually supported and armed Paul Pott in the border regions after the Vietnamese saved the Cambodians from Vietnam.

02:39:27.000 from his genocide and actually had him seated at the United Nations.

02:39:31.000 So to call that a communist type of exponent is exactly the opposite of the documented facts.

02:39:39.000 But those people were not individuals when Pol Pot had got done with them.

02:39:44.000 The Khmer Rouge did away with the family structure and they placed everybody All right, they were wretched, yes. 1.00

02:39:52.000 into a collectivist structure.

02:39:57.000 They were not communists, they were fascists, and it was our capitalist imperialists who supported them.

02:40:03.000 Both fascism and communism are socialisms.

02:40:08.000 They're both collectivists.

02:40:09.000 They're both collectivists.

02:40:10.000 They're about group living.

02:40:11.000 That's why I'm saying fascio is Italian for group, communis is is Latin for group living.

02:40:22.000 I don't know.

02:40:23.000 Both are derivatives of Marxism.

02:40:27.000 I say that we oppose both the fascist and the communist elements.

02:40:33.000 To have the individual power, I think we have to take it away from these corporate elites who own, as the lady said, GEO. 0.76

02:40:39.000 owning, and all of the media being owned by this tiny elite where we can't even get the truth.

02:40:45.000 The people who work in these places should be the people who control everything, who control the factories, the mines, the mills, the distribution, and those are the people who produced all the wealth in this society, and it's that tiny elite

02:41:01.000 Who takes the greatest value of it, who put us in a position where we can't buy it all back, at least leading to depressions like the ones during the thirties, when you had amazing productive powers and who'd going to rot, but because they could not make it for a capitalist profit, they would starve people and guard all of this and not let them have access to it.

02:41:21.000 And that leads to wars then, because you need to capture other people's, another capitalist country's markets.

02:41:28.000 And areas of exploitation because of this basic exploitation.

02:41:31.000 The way we get back to that, the way we get back to that is through the Constitution which sets up a representative form of government.

02:41:39.000 And that's where the people's voices would be heard, is through their representatives.

02:41:45.000 Okay.

02:41:46.000 Go ahead.

02:41:47.000 We've just got to move on.

02:41:48.000 We've got to get to other callers.

02:41:50.000 John, thanks for your call.

02:41:52.000 I appreciate it.

02:41:53.000 And let's move on, Paul.

02:41:54.000 We've got John in Florida.

02:41:55.000 Good afternoon, John.

02:41:56.000 You're on the air.

02:41:58.000 Hello.

02:41:59.000 Yeah, good afternoon, how are you?

02:42:00.000 Good, how are you?

02:42:01.000 Pretty good, I won't take up too much of your time.

02:42:04.000 My question about what you were speaking about a half an hour ago about the Skull and Bones, it's kind of about that.

02:42:12.000 Is there anything or any website that anybody can go to that can document the 35 presidents that have had blue blood?

02:42:22.000 I think you should check out Alex's website, Infowars.com.

02:42:25.000 and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:42:27.000 He's got a lot of information there and it's a good starting point for doing research.

02:42:32.000 Paul, do you have any comment you want to add to that?

02:42:35.000 Actually, yeah.

02:42:38.000 I've gone to Infowars.com and they actually document a lot of the dynastical backgrounds of these blue blood types. 0.98

02:42:48.000 Just continue tuning into the Alex Jones Show and tune into Michael's show too because He goes into the elite criminality in depth, too.

02:42:58.000 Okay, thank you.

02:42:59.000 Thanks, John, for your call.

02:43:00.000 And let's grab another call.

02:43:01.000 We've got Mike in Illinois.

02:43:02.000 Good afternoon, Mike.

02:43:03.000 How are you guys doing?

02:43:03.000 You're on the air.

02:43:06.000 Good.

02:43:06.000 How are you?

02:43:07.000 I like your show.

02:43:08.000 I agree with everything your guest is saying.

02:43:10.000 My father came here from Eastern Europe.

02:43:12.000 He came here from the Ukraine in 1950.

02:43:15.000 He said that he made a remark to my mother after they were married for one year.

02:43:19.000 He said, my prediction is going to be that there's going to be Fascism, communism, socialism, whatever you want to label it, here in this country in the near future.

02:43:27.000 And you know what?

02:43:28.000 It's happening.

02:43:30.000 You see this industrial giant.

02:43:32.000 We were once the gigantic manufacturing giant and ruled the world as far as all that went.

02:43:38.000 And I just see us giving away everything to China and Mexico. 0.91

02:43:42.000 And I just want to ask your guests, what is the plan behind it?

02:43:46.000 What is the reason?

02:43:47.000 And why are Americans so asleep at this?

02:43:50.000 Watching our economy go to the toilet and, of course, they're lying to us constantly and telling us it's going to get better.

02:43:58.000 Basically, I don't understand how we can lose all these jobs.

02:44:01.000 Here in Illinois, Maytag Corporation was building washing machines since the early 1900s.

02:44:05.000 They employed 4,500 people and there's a huge plant About 150 miles from where I live.

02:44:12.000 And I went down there last weekend, because we were camping, and went past it.

02:44:16.000 It's like a ghost town.

02:44:17.000 I mean, I just thought this was a huge facility where they manufactured these washers and dryers for years, and now they make them in China.

02:44:23.000 I mean, you see this happening in everyone.

02:44:24.000 I just want to ask your guests, how long is this going to go on before someone's smart enough to put a stop to it?

02:44:29.000 And I hear people say, you know, there's a point of no return.

02:44:32.000 Once this happens, you know, we're not going to get any of this back.

02:44:36.000 Okay, Paul?

02:44:37.000 Well, I believe that people will finally really start putting their foot down and that that dormant spirit of activism will awaken in the American population probably right around the time... this is speculative... probably around the time that this government finally decides it's going to re-institute the draft.

02:45:00.000 I remember that during the first Bush administration, Bush Senior instead of Junior, Dan Quayle got up there and was saying, oh, you know, we were all filled with patriotic fervor and we're all going out for the Vietnam War and we were all, you know, willing and enlisting into the military and all, which is nonsense.

02:45:22.000 I began to look into, you know, the background there and speak to veterans and speak to people who were actually alive during that period of time in this country Literally became split down the middle and came very close to civil war.

02:45:45.000 People just really didn't want to go out for the whole thing.

02:45:50.000 They keep on tossing this draft idea around and eventually the draft is... I'm almost certain that eventually they're going to finally just try to implement it.

02:46:02.000 And around that time, that's when people are going to say, enough's enough.

02:46:06.000 And all I can say is that when that happens, please keep your protests and your different methods of voicing your opinion peaceful.

02:46:21.000 And don't head in a violent direction with it all.

02:46:27.000 Well, I just want to ask you this, too.

02:46:29.000 Have you ever heard of a book or movie called Monopoly Men?

02:46:32.000 Uh, no.

02:46:33.000 Okay, well it's, um, I don't have it off the top of my head, but I've watched it.

02:46:35.000 It's very good.

02:46:36.000 And they just basically said that the Federal Reserve, you know, was started by J.P.

02:46:40.000 Morgan and Rockefeller and an entity of six people or so.

02:46:43.000 And it's a farce, and you know, it's a joke, and it's, you know, they create money out of nothing.

02:46:47.000 And every war, even since the Civil War, was created, even though the Federal Reserve didn't exist yet, was created out of that.

02:46:56.000 And they fund both sides of the war.

02:46:58.000 So people have got to wake up and see that we're losing our country from behind.

02:47:03.000 It's happening very fast.

02:47:05.000 That's for sure.

02:47:06.000 And of course, real quick, we've got to grab the break here pretty quick, but I want to say one book that I encourage people to read to understand some of the historical analogues of what's going on here is Paul's book, Hidden Face of Terrorism, and also a book that's out there called Ponds in the Game.

02:47:25.000 Because it addresses a lot of the stuff about the banking interests and how they have essentially been able to control nations.

02:47:32.000 And as Paul was making his point in the first part of the hour today, he was talking about that these national governments are all basically under the control of non-governmental entities, criminal elites, the cabal, whatever you want to call it.

02:47:49.000 Paul?

02:47:50.000 You're absolutely correct.

02:47:51.000 And then, yes, people do need to get a hold of that book, Ponds and the Games, because you'll be amazed at when this was written and how much of what he said was going to happen has actually come to pass.

02:48:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:48:05.000 Mike, thanks for your call.

02:48:06.000 Appreciate it, okay?

02:48:07.000 All right.

02:48:08.000 And Paul, we're going to grab the break.

02:48:09.000 When we come back, we'll get some wrap-up comment.

02:48:11.000 We'll take a couple more calls, and we'll move on, okay?

02:48:14.000 Gotcha, Michael.

02:48:14.000 Very good.

02:48:15.000 Again, my guest is Paul David Collins.

02:48:17.000 The book is The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

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02:51:42.000 We continue on Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who will return live from Austin, Texas on Monday afternoon.

02:52:04.000 As you know, he's in New York on the ground covering the Republican National Convention.

02:52:09.000 And I just want to say before we run out of time today that I have thoroughly enjoyed Filling in for him Monday, Tuesday and today and Erskine will join you tomorrow, Thursday and Friday and he will be taking care of business for Alex and of course Alex will be calling in each day with live updates and it's been an honor for me to be here and I've really enjoyed it.

02:52:30.000 And again, I want to thank Genesis Communications Network for all that they do as well, because this is so very, very important.

02:52:36.000 And as we know, the hope in all of this is I think we are turning the corner.

02:52:40.000 People are starting to wake up and realize that there is something very wrong.

02:52:45.000 Paul, welcome back.

02:52:46.000 Paul is the author of The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

02:52:48.000 And again, Paul, thank you for being on the program today.

02:52:50.000 And thank you for having me, Mike.

02:52:52.000 Okay, let's grab a couple of calls if we can before we run out of time.

02:52:55.000 Brad is in Illinois.

02:52:57.000 Good afternoon, Brad.

02:52:57.000 You're on the air.

02:52:58.000 I just wanted to make this comment.

02:52:59.000 I always find it funny to hear these people arguing about whether someone's communism, or socialist, or fascist, or whatever.

02:53:08.000 I mean, does it really make a difference when you've got a guy like Staun that's responsible for 30 million deaths, or a guy like Mao, 30 million, Hitler, how many million, or how about some of our founding fathers who performed genocide on our Native Americans here?

02:53:22.000 You know, to me, I don't trust any of these people, no matter what they call them.

02:53:26.000 And I look at the Bible, Ecclesiastes 8 and 9, and it's true. 0.94

02:53:30.000 Man dominates man to his own injury.

02:53:32.000 And anytime you've got any people, any person or people that are going to stand up in front of a platform and say, I've got the answers and I'm going to help you, you know, nobody needs to help me.

02:53:42.000 They didn't create me and they're not responsible for me.

02:53:45.000 And that's the way it's supposed to be.

02:53:46.000 And that's basically what our founding fathers wanted.

02:53:49.000 America to be like. 0.87

02:53:50.000 Everybody responsible for their own actions.

02:53:53.000 And these representatives were merely figureheads, not some rich elitists out there that are staying up on a platform saying how great it is.

02:54:01.000 Yeah, it's great when you're a Bush family and you've got a bottomless bank account or the Kerry family.

02:54:06.000 It's always great.

02:54:08.000 Brad, thanks for your call.

02:54:09.000 I appreciate it.

02:54:10.000 And Paul, real quick, if you could, give out information about how people can get your book again and where it's available.

02:54:17.000 Okay, the book is available at Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.com and that's not just the Hidden Face of Terrorism but the Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship is also available on those sites and I believe that they have a package deal for both books at Amazon.com and also the new fall 2004 edition of Paranoia Magazine features an article over the new book along with a

02:54:47.000 With a review of the book, if anybody would like to read what somebody thought of the book prior to purchasing it.

02:54:56.000 Okay.

02:54:57.000 Hey, real quick too, what have we got on the plate as far as future projects?

02:55:01.000 Well, currently right now, we have out the new article, like I said, in Paranoia Magazine, and we have a new article that we have put together that hopefully Paranoia will be and if they don't publish it, we'll find another route over the DSM, the Diagnostical Statistical Manual,

02:55:26.000 and how it parallels kind of the Malleus Maleficarum of the Middle Ages. and how it parallels kind of the Malleus Maleficarum of Yeah, see, that's another very, very important element in what's going on here, and that is that the idea of scientism replacing or supplanting religion And I know in a lot of ways that's where all this goes.

02:55:48.000 Anyway, Paul, thank you so much again for being on the program, and we'll be in touch.

02:55:52.000 Okay, keep in touch, Mike.

02:55:53.000 Alright, and again, that's it for us today.

02:55:55.000 I want to thank you for joining us, and again, it's been my honor and pleasure to fill in for Alex, and I've enjoyed it.

02:56:01.000 Tune in tomorrow.

02:56:02.000 Erskine will be in the chair, and Alex will be giving you an update from New York.

02:56:07.000 Until then, I'm Michael Corbin, and you are listening to the Alex Jones Show.

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