Alex Jones Show - 20040903_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 We are live.

00:00:23.000 Our number here is 800-259-9231.

00:00:26.000 This is Erskine sitting in for my final day with Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Alex will be back with you Monday.

00:00:33.000 Alex will be back Monday.

00:00:35.000 Right now he is at the belly of the beast.

00:00:37.000 He is at Ground Zero New York City where he will have another astonishing report.

00:00:43.000 If you missed yesterday's program, you missed one heck of a report from Alex Jones right in the middle of everything that's going on in New York City.

00:00:53.000 I'm not talking about the floor of the Republican Convention, I'm talking out with you, the people, the 300,000 people who are out protesting that you're not hearing about on ABC, NBC, CBS, or CNN, but then you're used to hearing the news that they don't report on the Alex Jones radio program.

00:01:13.000 First off, let's go back to the Republican Convention.

00:01:15.000 On Wednesday night, it was Dick Cheney.

00:01:18.000 And when Dick Cheney is the good cop, you know they are really going on the attack.

00:01:23.000 It was Zell on Earth, Wednesday night.

00:01:28.000 In an interview with Chris Matthews, where Chris finally threw him a hardball, he said, I wish we lived in a day when you could challenge a person to a duel.

00:01:37.000 And then he walked out on the interview.

00:01:40.000 Man, I'm telling you, he fired both barrels and just kept on firing and Dick Cheney came off looking like Mr. Nice.

00:01:51.000 Where else could you see that type of occurrence?

00:01:54.000 And then last night it was the President's turn and the President had the most beautiful stage you were ever going to see.

00:02:01.000 It was set out totally regal with the emblem of the President of the United States Huge and he's standing in the middle of it and he essentially is saying that we're going to be safe, secure and all fuzzy and warm.

00:02:18.000 It was a wonderful speech.

00:02:19.000 It really was a wonderful speech and I think you'll find that it was just Very rousing for the people.

00:02:27.000 The one quote that they never used.

00:02:30.000 The one quote that you didn't hear.

00:02:32.000 You never heard anything about our Constitution.

00:02:35.000 You never heard anything about our freedoms.

00:02:38.000 You never heard the quote by Benjamin Franklin.

00:02:41.000 They that give up essential liberty shall obtain a little temporary safety, neither liberty nor safety.

00:02:48.000 They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

00:02:56.000 Ben Franklin's quote was not said that night.

00:02:59.000 Now the other person whom you didn't see at the convention who didn't give a speech was John Ashcroft.

00:03:07.000 Why did you not hear John Ashcroft?

00:03:09.000 Well, let me give you two of his quotes from 2004.

00:03:12.000 Two of the John Ashcroft quotes.

00:03:15.000 One is, I'll continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein aided Al Qaeda, financially and materially, despite the fact that he didn't gather that. 0.90

00:03:25.000 This is the Attorney General of the United States.

00:03:28.000 Actual quote.

00:03:29.000 This is not out of context.

00:03:33.000 I will continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein aided al-Qaeda financially and materially despite the fact that he didn't.

00:03:40.000 And the other quote from 2004.

00:03:41.000 This was before the 9-11 Commission.

00:03:46.000 The administration categorically denies that it authorized the use of torture in Iraq and I refuse to release the Department of Justice's letter of sanctioning the use of torture.

00:03:56.000 John Ashcroft.

00:03:57.000 He actually said that.

00:03:58.000 So is it a miracle or are you at all surprised that he did not appear at the Republican Convention giving any speeches?

00:04:07.000 The other thing that he did as Attorney General, and I thought this was interesting, is an important message that was released this week.

00:04:14.000 When you're out buying plastic, duct tape, and toilet paper to protect yourself from germ warfare, don't forget fresh batteries for your flashlight.

00:04:21.000 Because in the dark, you don't want to mix up the duct tape and the toilet paper.

00:04:25.000 Well, that's something you certainly don't want to do.

00:04:28.000 Now, if you'll notice this week, no alerts.

00:04:33.000 No orange alerts.

00:04:34.000 No pink alerts.

00:04:35.000 No chartreuse alerts.

00:04:36.000 We're just safe as can be this week.

00:04:40.000 Unless you're on the streets of New York City with Alex Jones, you're safe as can be.

00:04:47.000 We'll be right back on the Alex Jones Show and the number here 800-259-9231.

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00:07:58.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:13.000 This is Erskine of Erskine Overnight, and this Saturday night on Erskine Overnight, 9 p.m.

00:08:19.000 Pacific, midnight East Coast, we're going to talk about 8,000 people dying a day due to An activity of the United States government.

00:08:30.000 You won't want to miss the first hour of Erskine Overnight.

00:08:33.000 The last hour we're going to have Harry Brown on, talking about where are the Libertarians, where is any other party other than the Democrats and the Republicans.

00:08:43.000 Safety.

00:08:43.000 Security.

00:08:44.000 That's one of the things that President Bush was talking about.

00:08:48.000 Are you feeling more safe today than you did four years ago?

00:08:51.000 Do you feel more safe today?

00:08:54.000 Is your money safer?

00:08:55.000 Are you safer?

00:08:56.000 Is the world safer?

00:08:58.000 Is America safer?

00:08:59.000 Well, they've taken a lot of actions.

00:09:01.000 And one of their actions that they're bragging about is their new surveillance powers to stop terrorists The Treasury Department Office of Foreign Asset Control has 10 times more agents assigned to track violators of the U.S.

00:09:15.000 embargo on Cuba as it has tracking Osama Bin Laden's money.

00:09:20.000 Attorney General Ashcroft claims that federal agents have become far more savvy in defending America against terrorists, but last December they warned 1,700 local and state law enforcement agencies that people traveling with a world almanac would be terrorist plotters!

00:09:38.000 A world almanac, let's get real, and the TSA, Transportation Safety Administration, is imposing fines up to $1,500 $1,500 on Americans who are surly when passing through TSA airport checkpoints.

00:09:54.000 Boy, that makes me feel a lot more secure.

00:09:57.000 Now, what the TSA agents do, that's their business.

00:10:00.000 They want to browbeat some grandmother? 1.00

00:10:02.000 They can do it.

00:10:03.000 But don't get surly with a TSA agent, because you could be a terrorist.

00:10:08.000 February 2003, the U.S.

00:10:10.000 Justice Department was on orange alert, fearing terrorist attacks here before the invasion of Iraq.

00:10:16.000 That was February 2003, right before the invasion of Iraq.

00:10:19.000 What did they do?

00:10:20.000 Did they step up and watch the Mexican border?

00:10:25.000 No, they didn't step up and watch the Mexican border, where we know that people have crossed over.

00:10:31.000 Did they step up and watch the Canadian border?

00:10:34.000 No, they didn't watch the Canadian border.

00:10:37.000 Were they stepping up and watching ships coming over?

00:10:39.000 No!

00:10:40.000 But they launched Operation Pipe Dreams!

00:10:46.000 1,200 federal agents conducted raids across the entire United States to make you more secure, carrying out the biggest crackdown on bombs in American history.

00:10:57.000 Now let me ask you.

00:10:58.000 Somebody's smoking a little marijuana.

00:11:00.000 Are they going to be a terrorist?

00:11:01.000 Are they going to... The only thing they'd terrorize would be a 7-Eleven with the munchies! 1.00

00:11:06.000 Let's get real!

00:11:08.000 That is what a lot of Americans are extremely concerned about.

00:11:13.000 As Benjamin Franklin said, they give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety.

00:11:18.000 They deserve neither liberty nor safety.

00:11:21.000 Are we giving it up?

00:11:22.000 You bet we're giving it up.

00:11:24.000 Terrorism.

00:11:26.000 Let's talk about true terrorism.

00:11:28.000 The federal insurer behind 3,100 U.S.

00:11:30.000 pension plans has warned of multi-faceted and profound changes.

00:11:35.000 The pension fund guarantor, the United States guarantor, is now $350 billion in debt.

00:11:45.000 When the president took over, it had a surplus.

00:11:50.000 That means your pension funds, ladies and gentlemen, are gone!

00:11:54.000 That's terrorism.

00:11:56.000 When they take your pension funds, that is terrorism.

00:12:01.000 When they are able to go into your house and record whatever they want to.

00:12:07.000 Newsweek reports that the FBI and other government agencies have regularly used the Patriot Act to get access to financial records in cases that have no visible connection to terrorism.

00:12:21.000 Contelpro is alive and well.

00:12:24.000 That's the old one that was done by J. Edgar Hoover.

00:12:27.000 Threat Assessment is the new code for racial and religious profiling.

00:12:32.000 If you have Christian identity, you're religiously profiled.

00:12:36.000 If you believe in the Constitution, you can be profiled.

00:12:40.000 Under Threat Assessment, Attorney General Ashcroft, now remember Attorney General Ashcroft is the same person Who had the quotes that I was reading earlier, the same person who said, I'll continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein aided Al Qaeda financially and materially, despite the fact that we know he didn't. 0.64

00:13:00.000 That's a quote from Attorney General Ashcroft.

00:13:03.000 He says he's seeking the same authority exercised under Contra Pro that allowed the FBI agents to suspend the constitutional rights of those expressing what the government considered unpatriotic or un-American scenarios.

00:13:20.000 Representative Bob Barr had a few things to write in an article that came out Wednesday.

00:13:25.000 It's called the FBI's Preemptive Interrogation of Possible Demonstrators.

00:13:30.000 Possible Demonstrators.

00:13:32.000 You remember the time with Ronald Reagan?

00:13:35.000 He was always laughing and they said, when Ronald Reagan walked down the halls in the White House, you could tell he was there because people were laughing on the way.

00:13:42.000 Always disarmed protesters with his whip.

00:13:45.000 They didn't have orange nets.

00:13:47.000 They didn't have asbestos-lined Pier 57s with Ronald Reagan as president.

00:13:55.000 You had people wearing anti-Clinton t-shirts.

00:13:58.000 They showed up at Clinton rallies.

00:13:59.000 The worst they faced?

00:14:01.000 Well, the President's supporters did scowls at them.

00:14:05.000 The atmosphere didn't mean security was absent.

00:14:07.000 It was present in the 60s through the 70s, Clinton's second term through all the way through January 2001.

00:14:14.000 Everyone knew if you caused disruption, Secret Service agents would be on you in an instant, as they should be.

00:14:20.000 Now, things are different.

00:14:23.000 The administration campaign of President Bush is squelch any possible hint of disagreement or protest at every political rally or gathering.

00:14:33.000 For example, those with t-shirts.

00:14:35.000 The hint of disagreement.

00:14:37.000 They're allowed nowhere near any event nor even the route traveled by the President's motorcade.

00:14:45.000 Think what you will.

00:14:47.000 This is very, very frightening.

00:14:51.000 The FBI's preemptive interrogation memorandum went on to urge law enforcement to monitor the Internet because protesters often use the Internet to coordinate their activities prior to demonstrations.

00:15:03.000 This has nothing to do with terrorism!

00:15:06.000 It has to do with legitimate dissent in the United States and the right to Protest or applaud the candidate you want.

00:15:16.000 It urges law enforcement to watch out for protesters who use cell phones to coordinate or update colleagues.

00:15:24.000 Be warned to be aware of possible indicators of protest activities.

00:15:30.000 Evidence suggests that protesters are subject to home and office interviews.

00:15:34.000 They can come to your home.

00:15:36.000 They can interview you.

00:15:38.000 They can go to your office and interview you.

00:15:40.000 Oh, by the way, ma'am, before me and My armed partner, leave your house. 1.00

00:15:44.000 We'd like to remind you that if you haven't told us, if you know someone else who might be planning a demonstration, you've committed a crime, and we can prosecute you for not telling us that.

00:15:53.000 Have a good night.

00:15:55.000 They can come and ask you.

00:15:56.000 Not only are you protesting, but you better tell us who else is, who you may know, who may potentially protest, or you could be in problem.

00:16:04.000 Have a problem.

00:16:06.000 J Edgar Hoover said, no matter how paranoid or conspiracy minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you can imagine.

00:16:14.000 J Edgar Hoover, no matter how paranoid or conspiracy minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you can imagine.

00:16:23.000 From J Edgar Hoover.

00:16:26.000 Well, that's what we're up to today.

00:16:28.000 Lots and lots and lots of things.

00:16:30.000 Now we had Zell on Earth as the first one. 0.81

00:16:34.000 And as you said, Mr. Zell Miller made Dick Cheney look like the good cop.

00:16:41.000 I mean that took some doing and then you had Mr. Cheney coming forward and speaking.

00:16:48.000 Zell Miller became so, I'm telling you these Democrats are awful, he became so absolutely adamant, he was so There isn't a word for what Zell Miller was.

00:17:03.000 He was talking about the men and women in uniform, how proud he was, and nobody should disparage them except for Mr. Kerry.

00:17:10.000 And how bad things had become that people were actually protesting the war that we had.

00:17:20.000 They were actually calling the United States troops in Iraq occupiers.

00:17:26.000 They aren't occupiers, they're liberators!

00:17:30.000 Well, that's why we're having so many problems.

00:17:32.000 They're having so many flowers thrown at the people that they can't make any progress.

00:17:37.000 Well, the fact of the matter is these Democrats just keep on going.

00:17:41.000 What?

00:17:43.000 Zell was talking about the Democrats?

00:17:45.000 I thought he was a Democrat.

00:17:47.000 Oh, there's a man you can trust. 0.97

00:17:50.000 So give them hell, Zell was talking about Republicans and calls himself a Democrat? 0.99

00:17:56.000 Hmm. 0.99

00:17:57.000 Isn't that strange?

00:17:59.000 Okay, two things.

00:18:00.000 Two things.

00:18:00.000 First off, no alerts this week.

00:18:02.000 No John Ashcroft speaking this week.

00:18:05.000 And you're going to find that the person who is elected President of the United States, no matter how you vote, I will guarantee you, is going to be a member of Skull and Bones.

00:18:15.000 Let's go a little bit to what happened with Alex's interview yesterday.

00:18:20.000 The Alex Jones interview right here on his own program.

00:18:24.000 He was talking about what was going on in New York City.

00:18:28.000 Alex was apparently under siege when he was talking.

00:18:32.000 He had people there and a couple of the main facts that came out, and I find this to be extraordinary.

00:18:38.000 49.3% 49.3% of New Yorkers now they are the people that you really can't fool because New Yorkers are tough There is no question that New Yorkers are tough.

00:18:56.000 49.3% of them believe that the government knew what was going on, or that the government... Well, here's exactly it.

00:19:04.000 49.3% knew Our half of New York City residents, 41% of New York citizens overall said that some of our leaders knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11th and they consciously failed to act.

00:19:24.000 49.3% of Canadians and 63% that was a poll that was done by the Toronto Star, 63% of Canadians convinced that U.S.

00:19:32.000 leaders had prior knowledge of attacks yet declined to act.

00:19:37.000 America is awake.

00:19:39.000 You think, oh, I'm not doing any good.

00:19:41.000 We're not learning anything.

00:19:44.000 This is terrible.

00:19:45.000 We're not going anywhere.

00:19:47.000 Nobody's believing this.

00:19:49.000 Don't buy it.

00:19:50.000 We'll be back on Alex Jones.

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00:24:20.000 If you break the law, you're here for me, I know.

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00:24:29.000 Working for the state on the highway patrol.

00:24:32.000 You betcha.

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00:25:07.000 Vince in Indiana, the great Hoosier state.

00:25:10.000 Welcome to Alex Jones Program, Vince.

00:25:13.000 How are you today, Erskine?

00:25:15.000 Doing fine and dandy.

00:25:16.000 Where in Indiana are you living?

00:25:18.000 Indianapolis.

00:25:20.000 Good man, Don Naptown, tell me what's going on and what you'd like to comment on.

00:25:25.000 Well, I like your comments and what we say, but, you know, I was going to say something, I mean, I think it's directly related.

00:25:32.000 I heard Bill Cosby talking to Operation Bush on the C-SPAN network, you know, not minding, you know, all the media filters that took him afterward.

00:25:42.000 Right.

00:25:42.000 I mean, you know, these people, I watched the whole thing.

00:25:47.000 And it was amazing, if you listen to the media filters, basically call him an Uncle Tom, a white black man, y'all like to know. 0.60

00:25:56.000 He got up there and said, you know, we gotta quit blaming other people for our troubles.

00:26:02.000 And I mean, he quoted something there from the South Side of Chicago, where the UAW, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Union, flies.

00:26:14.000 A county tax, or an employee tax, what they call a payroll tax.

00:26:19.000 Right.

00:26:19.000 In the city of Chicago, in Cook County.

00:26:22.000 Two people, you know, he said no one in the south side of Chicago, there was a Ford auto plant, I think, there was a GM plant, there was a big electrical producer there.

00:26:35.000 I mean, they all were working in conjunction with one another.

00:26:38.000 There was steel makers.

00:26:40.000 And every one of those plants shut down.

00:26:44.000 Because, you know, these people were, you know, no one spoke up there.

00:26:49.000 The South Side of Chicago was phenomenally black. 1.00

00:26:53.000 No one spoke up and gave those guys support. 0.87

00:26:55.000 The press, the trade union people, is goon.

00:27:00.000 Yeah, you can go right on across all the way to Gary.

00:27:03.000 You got the same thing in Indiana.

00:27:04.000 I mean, Gary used to be a working city.

00:27:07.000 Now it's shut down.

00:27:08.000 A lot of places this has happened, and they're trying to turn them into tourist meccas.

00:27:13.000 Come on.

00:27:14.000 If you are producing anything, you aren't producing any goods, we're losing it. 0.64

00:27:18.000 And where are the black leaders talking about jobs? 1.00

00:27:21.000 Where are the union leaders talking about jobs? 0.78

00:27:24.000 It's all going south.

00:27:25.000 It's all going out.

00:27:26.000 You know, Perot was right when he talked about that giant sucking sound.

00:27:30.000 We're seeing it.

00:27:31.000 We're seeing the jobs going and illegals coming in. 1.00

00:27:35.000 We're being overtaken and the jobs are just gone.

00:27:37.000 We're no longer creating good jobs, middle class jobs that you and I grew up with, aren't we, Ben?

00:27:44.000 No, and I mean, let me say this.

00:27:47.000 I'm not going to say those were glory type jobs, but those were demanding jobs.

00:27:52.000 People got to pay.

00:27:53.000 They put bread on the table, didn't they?

00:27:55.000 And gave you a lot of respect because you were doing a job, you were doing some work, and you were making something, you had enough money to go down and buy what you needed.

00:28:02.000 And he said, Bill Cosby said the most interesting thing.

00:28:06.000 He said, the reason why we're going to see more police, and more of this, and that, and he said it doesn't matter whether, you know, he said it doesn't matter if we, you know, because he talked about the deputizing of the city police there in Chicago, the Bank of Federal Marshals, he said, you know, you're going to see We have more gambling, more alcohol stores, more this, that, and the other than anything else.

00:28:31.000 And he said the reason why is because they pay a city tax to the city of Chicago and the Cook County.

00:28:39.000 And these people that you chased out, the ones that were the higher paying jobs, because you allowed it to happen, And you didn't fight back.

00:28:49.000 And he said, you know, Harold Washington wasn't the answer.

00:28:52.000 We've had black leaders and they've turned their back. 0.99

00:28:55.000 He said, and they're all sitting up here by me.

00:29:00.000 He's exactly right.

00:29:01.000 Bill Cosby is exactly right.

00:29:03.000 You take these jobs, like these gambling jobs, they're not productive jobs.

00:29:07.000 They're not throwing anything back into America.

00:29:10.000 They aren't producing anything.

00:29:12.000 It's just shifting money around.

00:29:14.000 And then when you have the government this year classifying working at the fast food restaurants like McDonald's has now become manufacturing.

00:29:24.000 Vince, thanks so much for the call from the Hoosier State, Indiana.

00:29:28.000 And we'll be right back talking with Marina in Virginia.

00:29:33.000 We're on the march.

00:29:34.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:28.000 Now on Erskine Overnight, that's Saturday nights at 9 o'clock Pacific Midnight.

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00:33:57.000 Now one of the things that happened to me, I was talking with a couple of people, I had a caller from New York, I had a caller from Pennsylvania.

00:34:05.000 And we were talking about the illegal immigration.

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00:34:09.000 What do you care about the illegal immigration?

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00:34:17.000 I was making $17 an hour in meatpacking.

00:34:20.000 Now I'm making $7 an hour and by George, I better be speaking Spanish.

00:34:25.000 That's what's happened to America!

00:34:27.000 The good paying jobs!

00:34:28.000 Where's the unions standing up? 0.96

00:34:30.000 As Bill Cosby said, where are the black leaders?

00:34:32.000 Where are the unions?

00:34:33.000 It isn't a black and white issue.

00:34:34.000 It's a green issue.

00:34:36.000 It's an economic issue.

00:34:37.000 Let's go to Maureen in Virginia, and then we're going to Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:34:43.000 Maureen! 0.91

00:34:44.000 Hi there, how are you?

00:34:45.000 Fine and dandy.

00:34:46.000 How are you doing?

00:34:47.000 Fine.

00:34:48.000 I've got a couple things.

00:34:49.000 The first one, I was not able to listen to the show yesterday.

00:34:53.000 I was told though, That within like the first maybe 15 minutes you mentioned something about a National Guardsman saying that we were going to have martial law by November 1st.

00:35:05.000 That was on a video that was done by Alex Jones.

00:35:10.000 He did a video concerning that and that is with a Texas.

00:35:15.000 Thank you for bringing that up because that's an extremely important thing.

00:35:19.000 Last weekend on the Alex Jones Access Television Show he displayed the Texas National Guard manual for infrastructure protection delivered to him by an insider within that program.

00:35:31.000 The Insider called into the show and answered Alex's questions about the program and their notification to be deployed on November 1st.

00:35:38.000 You're exactly right.

00:35:39.000 Very astute of you, Marine.

00:35:41.000 The manual goes into great detail on the military takeover of civic authorities, city halls, etc.

00:35:47.000 Exactly the way Alex documented in the three police state videos he's made over the last ten years.

00:35:53.000 Now, that is exactly what you're talking about.

00:35:57.000 For the videos, and he's got the Police State 1, 2, and 3, you can go to Infowars.com.

00:36:03.000 But this was a gentleman who gave him the Texas National Guard manual calling for them to be deployed on November 1st.

00:36:12.000 100% correct.

00:36:13.000 Your other question, and I think maybe, Paul Watson, are you there?

00:36:17.000 Yeah, I'm here.

00:36:20.000 Can you help answer that?

00:36:21.000 Because it's up on your website.

00:36:23.000 Is that pretty much the story right there?

00:36:25.000 I believe Alex talked about that on his last weekly report because he obviously does a television show from Austin, Texas.

00:36:34.000 And all those TV shows are posted on prisonplanet.tv for members.

00:36:39.000 So I believe it will be in the last report there.

00:36:41.000 So that's where you can go to get more information on it.

00:36:44.000 Okay, thank you.

00:36:46.000 Another question?

00:36:47.000 I have one other.

00:36:48.000 It's not a question.

00:36:49.000 It is a request.

00:36:50.000 It is a plea.

00:36:51.000 I'm begging.

00:36:52.000 I've got a website.

00:36:53.000 It's draftedintoslavery.com.

00:36:57.000 Congress is out right now.

00:36:58.000 They will be back the day after Labor Day.

00:37:03.000 The information, the legislation is posted on there about the draft that they plan on implementing in May or June for every male and female from 18 to 26.

00:37:14.000 Congress will be in session for one short month.

00:37:17.000 I am begging people to go to that website and get the phone number for the Capitol Hill switchboard.

00:37:24.000 The day after Labor Day, start calling your congressman, asking them, ask them if they've taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

00:37:34.000 Ask them if they realize the 13th Amendment is part of the Constitution.

00:37:40.000 Ask them if they know it will be treason if they vote Or anything so horrible as a universal draft.

00:37:48.000 Any draft is unconstitutional.

00:37:50.000 This new draft, as I'm seeing it, Maureen, is supposed to include everybody, everybody of a certain age.

00:37:58.000 Males, females, and if you aren't going into the military, you're going into national service for two years.

00:38:04.000 There are a couple of them.

00:38:06.000 Congressman Regal has one.

00:38:07.000 Senator Hollings has one.

00:38:09.000 The bills are before Congress right now.

00:38:11.000 This isn't hypothetical.

00:38:13.000 They can talk all they want to about how there's going to be no draft, but the bills are already sitting there before Congress.

00:38:19.000 Am I correct?

00:38:20.000 You are correct.

00:38:20.000 And basically, I do believe we can stop it with two things.

00:38:24.000 One is fasting and prayer.

00:38:26.000 The second one is with action.

00:38:29.000 Pray as if everything depends on God.

00:38:31.000 Act as if everything depends on you.

00:38:33.000 Call everyone that will be affected, not only from 18 to 26, but anyone who's involved with higher learning institutions.

00:38:42.000 Those people are going to lose incredible amounts of money because there is no deferment for education.

00:38:47.000 Call businesses that employ people in that age group.

00:38:52.000 Call businesses that cater to people in that age group.

00:38:55.000 Just please, our children's lives are at stake.

00:39:00.000 Literally.

00:39:01.000 You're 100% correct, and I'm going to give that website out again.

00:39:04.000 It's draftedintoslavery.com.

00:39:07.000 Maureen, thank you for the call, and God bless the work that you're doing.

00:39:11.000 And thank you too, and God bless you.

00:39:13.000 Bye-bye.

00:39:13.000 Thank you.

00:39:15.000 Paul Watson.

00:39:20.000 A beautifully run convention with nothing but chaos outside.

00:39:25.000 The inside is orderly, incredibly scripted down to every syllable that is said, everything that is done, scripted and rehearsed.

00:39:37.000 Where outside you've got 300,000 protesting, inside you've got 3,000 partying.

00:39:44.000 What is this, the order out of chaos that the New World Order is bringing about?

00:39:50.000 Well, you mentioned scripted.

00:39:52.000 It's scripted quite badly for people like Arnold Schwarzenegger because in his speech a couple of nights ago he actually made reference to the fact that he became a Republican after somebody translated for him back in 68 a TV debate between the presidential candidate Humphrey for the Democrats and Richard Nixon was like a breath of fresh air to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:40:21.000 Richard Nixon, a breath of fresh air, Paul?

00:40:24.000 Well, we know that Nixon was responsible for the introduction of many policies with the Socialists bent under the banner of conservatism, but the point is Humphrey and Nixon never had a TV debate in 1968 because Nixon, after his debate with Kennedy in 1960, refused all TV debates.

00:40:44.000 So the foundation of Schwarzenegger's conservatism is based on a debate that never happened.

00:40:54.000 On a speech he was supposedly working on for five weeks straight before the convention started.

00:41:00.000 So, I mean, that's just a point to throw in.

00:41:02.000 But I mean, the update from New York, as the convention obviously winds down, is that the numbers of arrests made set a new record for arrests at any kind of political demonstration, even more than the Chicago riots in 1968.

00:41:18.000 And the City of New York has been fined $1,000 for every person who was not released after a judge's orders to immediately release those who were arrested was ignored.

00:41:30.000 And you have some people in Pier 57 at Guantanamo on the Hudson, as they labelled it, kept there for three days straight in these cramped, dingy, filthy conditions, and for what, as Alex elaborated yesterday, They would just throw these giant nets around people and arrest everyone in the general vicinity.

00:41:51.000 People going to see a movie.

00:41:53.000 Businessmen coming home from work.

00:41:55.000 People exiting shopping stores.

00:41:58.000 And I mean, while they were doing all this...

00:42:01.000 Alex alluded to the fact that they were arresting everyone, but there were a number of the actual demonstrators they seem to be letting loose.

00:42:10.000 This would indicate that they were wanting, wanting disruption outside there, at least some disruption that makes it look worse than it was.

00:42:20.000 Is this a tactic that the New World Order is using these days to let the violent disruptors go out, or maybe they're agent provocateurs, and arresting normal folks who are there?

00:42:31.000 That's exactly the case, as was back in Seattle, where it gave them the pretext to bring the National Guard in after these Black Block anarchists who were, you know, smashing shop windows, setting things on fire.

00:42:43.000 The police were told to stand off and let them carry out all this chaos, so then it provided the pretext for the police state crackdown.

00:42:51.000 But I mean, the thing about this convention is that while they were doing all this, while they were, you know, ploughing mopeds into large groups of people, anyone with a pass, which was easy to obtain from anyone, could just walk right into the convention.

00:43:06.000 And in fact, several people interrupted Bush's speech last night and had to be caught and dragged away by the security.

00:43:12.000 So, again, the security isn't about making anything secure, it's about imbibing this myth that police with machine guns and riot gear keep us safe.

00:43:22.000 Which is why, as I predicted weeks ago, there would be no attack in New York, because then that would make people say that the police state didn't protect us.

00:43:34.000 On a similar point, that's the reason why I fear that the next attack in America will not be in a major city, but maybe in the heartland, and it will be a soft target, like a school or a shopping mall.

00:43:47.000 Because then that will give the establishment the excuse to say, look, riot cops with machine guns protected us in New York, now we need riot cops in schools, riot cops in shopping malls, Well, they're already talking about putting the same type of airport security guards that they had, or at least they flew this balloon up, in shopping malls.

00:44:17.000 And we also had this activity that's occurred in Russia, where they have all the children hostage at the school.

00:44:24.000 Is this a new escalation of terrorism?

00:44:27.000 State-sponsored terrorism?

00:44:29.000 Is it state-sponsored, in your opinion?

00:44:32.000 After reading your book, Order Out of Chaos, nothing happens by coincidence.

00:44:36.000 Most terrorism has a state behind it.

00:44:40.000 Well, yeah, and it's coincidental that Exactly as I predicted a few weeks ago that you'd have a wave of terrorist actions abroad to kind of distract from the protest and that's exactly what we had in Russia with these planes being crashed and now this school siege which we can go on to talk about in more detail.

00:45:00.000 Well, the school siege has been major, major news, though you wouldn't know it.

00:45:05.000 And according to, after looking at your book and reading it and going into details of Order Out of Chaos, the true terrorists were not outside on the streets.

00:45:19.000 But they were inside the walls of the Republican Convention and the various other conventions.

00:45:25.000 These are the people who design so much that happens.

00:45:28.000 And the New Yorkers understand it.

00:45:30.000 The polls show that America is indeed waking up.

00:45:34.000 They're understanding what's going on.

00:45:36.000 We're winning, aren't we, Paul?

00:45:38.000 Yeah, we're winning the battle for people's minds with our weapon, the truth.

00:45:42.000 I mean, it's more powerful than any lie they can tell.

00:45:45.000 I mean, just imagine the power of the establishment media and how many people it reaches, and yet still, through our work, both on the internet and with all the great 9-11 activist groups which have been doing some great work out there, 50% of New Yorkers believe the government was complicit in that they failed to consciously act on 9-11.

00:46:08.000 63% of Canadians think the same thing.

00:46:10.000 So, I mean, it just exemplifies, again, the kind of platform that we've created and the power that we can have with the weapon of the truth, which dwarfs the lies, even though the lies have a more significant power base and reach more people via the mass media.

00:46:26.000 So it's testament to our work.

00:46:28.000 And the power of the truth.

00:46:31.000 One of the stories that came out, and I think this one was a surprise to you, was where was George Herbert Walker Bush, George Bush number one, on the morning of 9-11.

00:46:44.000 This is very telling.

00:46:46.000 Where was he on that morning?

00:46:48.000 Well he's at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington DC at a Carlyle Group meeting and he was meeting with one of the big Bin Laden family heads, the brother of Osama Bin Laden, Shafiq Bin Laden on the morning of 9-11 as, you know, the Pentagon was being attacked.

00:47:08.000 That came out in CBC in Canada and in the London Observer in Britain, which is a major Sunday newspaper.

00:47:15.000 So I mean, that alone, that came out around about, I think it was ten months ago, and yet very little attention was garnered.

00:47:23.000 So, again, it just proves that these people are intimately involved with each other.

00:47:27.000 And this 9-11 Commission, or 9-11-O Mission, as I call it, is nothing more than a stage whitewash. 0.79

00:47:34.000 And the very heads of that, like Thomas Keane, were in business with Bin Laden family members as well.

00:47:41.000 Khalid Bin Mahfouz was in business with Thomas Keane, who was the head of the 9-11 Commission.

00:47:47.000 The heads of the previous investigative committee, Bob Graham and Porter Goss, who is obviously now the new head of the CIA, were meeting on the morning of 9-11 having breakfast with the Pakistani ISI spy chief Mahmood Ahmed.

00:48:05.000 Discussing terrorism when this same spy chief was a major funder of Mohammed Ata to the tune of $100,000 and they were having breakfast with him on the morning of 9-11.

00:48:16.000 So I mean these connections never end and obviously the main plank of my book, Order Out of Chaos, three chapters, full-length chapters are completely devoted to those kind of connections.

00:48:28.000 You've also got the fact that the Day after 9-11, there was one or two airplanes flying across the United States when nobody else could fly, flying out the Bin Laden family, out of the United States of America. 0.86

00:48:43.000 Now, these people, under any criminal investigation, would certainly be questioned.

00:48:50.000 But no, they were, by orders of the President of the United States, The only plane flying that was non-military allowed the fly out of the United States.

00:48:59.000 As a matter of fact, we went by, picked them up and flew them out of this country so that they would be safe.

00:49:04.000 Here he is blaming Bin Laden.

00:49:06.000 If he really thought it was Bin Laden, wouldn't you want to question the family?

00:49:10.000 Would that not be logical, Paul?

00:49:13.000 Well, I mean, the critics to that would say that Bin Laden was the black sheep of the Bin Laden family and they had nothing to do with him.

00:49:21.000 That's blatantly not true because Most of your listeners will remember the articles which came out of Washington Times, United Press International, in July of 2001 when Osama bin Laden was in hospital in the American hospital in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, where he was met by CIA station chief Larry Mitchell, but also, the article said, where he was met by CIA station chief Larry Mitchell, but also, the article said, he was met by numerous members of his own family, therefore disproving the myth that Osama is the black sheep of the family, and again highlighting the fact that this escape route for the

00:49:50.000 and again highlighting the fact that this escape route There was a later attempt to discredit it by focusing on another flight out of different bin Laden family members in late September, so then people could say, well, the FBI had questioned them and the flight ban was lifted.

00:50:12.000 We are not talking about that.

00:50:14.000 We're focusing on the fly-out in the two days after September 11th.

00:50:17.000 There were two different fly-outs.

00:50:19.000 Which I mean is what Michael Moore focuses on in his film.

00:50:22.000 He focuses on the later fly-out, which is not the main point.

00:50:26.000 So people have used that to discredit the whole story.

00:50:29.000 But the facts remain that the FBI did not get a chance to question the Bin Laden family members the first fly-out, which took place in the day after and the following day after September 11th.

00:50:41.000 More when we get back.

00:50:42.000 The Alex Jones Show featuring Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:50:48.000 Thanks for listening.

00:50:48.000 and we'll be right back.

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00:54:14.000 This is Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones on this Friday edition of Truth Radio.

00:54:21.000 This is the truth.

00:54:21.000 This is what you're going to hear.

00:54:23.000 You're not going to hear this on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS.

00:54:27.000 This is the only place you're going to hear the truth about what's going on in New York City and the truth about 9-11.

00:54:34.000 Let's go immediately to Ron in New York.

00:54:36.000 You're on with Erskine and Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:54:41.000 Yes, Ron.

00:54:42.000 Hi, gentlemen.

00:54:43.000 I'm calling you from New York, from New York City.

00:54:47.000 A place which was treated like a plaything for the last four days.

00:54:51.000 What had gone on was so largely inexcusable, and yet it was blacked out with the establishment national media.

00:55:00.000 You only heard about what really went on in the streets from the local, very local stations.

00:55:06.000 But the national networks didn't project that image out.

00:55:09.000 And people in Spokane and Boise will think everything went well and fine here, when in fact it didn't.

00:55:16.000 There was no coverage.

00:55:17.000 You have a sense of media.

00:55:19.000 You have an American profit.

00:55:20.000 That's what we've developed into now.

00:55:23.000 There's no mention.

00:55:24.000 People who live in other parts of the country will think that everything went on here with no problem.

00:55:32.000 This is a disgrace.

00:55:33.000 This is un-American. 0.73

00:55:34.000 You had people who were largely scooped up and arrested.

00:55:37.000 While I will concede some small portion of them committed violations and offenses that might be considered anti-social in the mind of anybody in the general public, the larger part of them were just scooped up for really no reason.

00:55:51.000 At least if we still believe in the Constitution, the right to express free speech, they were scooped up and a good part of them Well, people that weren't even participating in the protest in the least.

00:56:03.000 I even met a woman yesterday. 0.82

00:56:05.000 She was shopping at Macy's department store, and she wound up being swept up.

00:56:09.000 This woman couldn't even spell the word political. 0.99

00:56:12.000 And this is ridiculous. 0.98

00:56:13.000 This was unforgivable, what happened. 0.81

00:56:15.000 My guess is that many of these people are seeking redress in the courts, our state, New York state courts.

00:56:22.000 I do feel that in the end what's going to happen is the rug will be pulled out of any claim that they make regarding their mistreatment or false arrest because they're going to cite to a national security doctrine.

00:56:34.000 So that's how they're going to pull the rugs out from any lawsuit that will subsequently come down the pipe because this was classified a national security event.

00:56:43.000 I don't know if most people are aware of that.

00:56:46.000 Well, Rob, don't you think New York was used as a backdrop, as just a stage, as in any Hollywood production, they did it as New York as a backdrop, and they couldn't afford to show this, because if they showed what the people were really thinking, if they were releasing the information from the Zogby Poll of what people are really thinking, if they really showed what New Yorkers thought and believed, they couldn't get by with what they're doing.

00:57:13.000 No, because you know something?

00:57:16.000 Whether you go by polls, and polls certainly will bear out what I'm going to say, or whether you just live here, in this city, and you talk to your neighbors, you know you're an interactive human being.

00:57:26.000 Nobody, at any level, was happy about the imposition and the intrusion that went on, for the sake of basically throwing a glorified frat party for 3,000 brats.

00:57:37.000 That's really what went on here.

00:57:39.000 And a lot of people have suffered and pay a large price for this, to one degree or another.

00:57:43.000 And there is no way There is no way that this could ever be sanctioned or condoned.

00:57:49.000 I don't care how fanatically partisan you are.

00:57:52.000 There is an absolute rock bottom right and wrong in this life.

00:57:56.000 This thing was the wrong thing.

00:57:58.000 It was handled and done the wrong way.

00:58:01.000 All the rules and standards of 227 years of our republic went right out the window and down the drain.

00:58:09.000 You spoke with Alex yesterday.

00:58:11.000 I know he's been calling in.

00:58:12.000 I spoke with him last week.

00:58:13.000 I'm a regular caller to the show.

00:58:16.000 I told him even before he got here, because I'm retired from law enforcement here, that he was to expect the kind of things that he did encounter on the streets of New York.

00:58:25.000 I told him that that was going to happen, and sure enough, it did.

00:58:29.000 Ron, can you hold on?

00:58:30.000 We need to take a break at the top of the hour, because I need to hear more about what you're saying.

00:58:34.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you for calling in.

00:58:36.000 and we'll be right back on the Alex Jones radio program.

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00:59:01.000 This is Erskine, sitting in for Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 My website is erskineonradio.com.

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00:59:29.000 We're talking with Ron who is a former retired police officer from New York City and he's telling it like it is.

00:59:38.000 He is absolutely telling it like it is and Ron was saying how he told Alex what to expect and he wishes it wasn't true but it's exactly what's occurred.

00:59:49.000 Am I correct Ron?

00:59:50.000 Yes, exactly what's occurred and it's exactly what I anticipated would occur.

00:59:55.000 You had approximately 1,700 people arrested in reference to this event.

01:00:02.000 And I'm not sure if I should call it an event or a catastrophe.

01:00:07.000 That is the largest number of people, at least in memorable history, ever arrested in reference to any political event in the United States.

01:00:15.000 Do you know that?

01:00:15.000 Do your listeners know that?

01:00:17.000 Right, we talked about that last hour.

01:00:19.000 We said this is greater than all the arrests in Chicago in 1968.

01:00:23.000 That's correct.

01:00:24.000 And they rounded them up and they put them in a facility, a place I happen to be familiar with.

01:00:29.000 It's an old port, a facility that was deactivated many years ago, way back when.

01:00:36.000 And I happen, believe it or not, it's been used for one thing or another throughout the years.

01:00:40.000 It's last incarnation prior to being a A detention facility was a bus depot, and prior to that, for a short time, it was used to store some other things.

01:00:49.000 The place is a proverbial cesspit.

01:00:52.000 I wouldn't want to store stray dogs there.

01:00:54.000 They put people there, they put up fences that are about ten feet high.

01:00:59.000 The place looked like any classic concentration camp that you might have seen in films throughout history regarding other oppressive states.

01:01:07.000 Whether it was Stalin's Russia, Or the pictures that we saw of what went on in the Balkans with ethnic cleansing.

01:01:14.000 That image is inconsistent with our society.

01:01:19.000 Now, as I said, the way this was projected out to the rest of the country, your listeners in many other states and the heartland will never know what really went on here because they rely on the national media to cover it here, and they made it seem as though everything was honky-dory.

01:01:34.000 Well, I live here, on the ground.

01:01:36.000 I went out.

01:01:37.000 I saw.

01:01:38.000 I know people who've been affected by this.

01:01:41.000 It was not honky-dory.

01:01:42.000 No, and everybody that was scooped up and arrested was not a menace to society.

01:01:47.000 As a matter of fact, the majority weren't.

01:01:49.000 Alex said he was almost arrested three times.

01:01:52.000 Does that surprise you?

01:01:53.000 No, as a matter of fact, the only thing that surprises me is that he wasn't ultimately arrested.

01:01:58.000 That's what surprises me, is that he was ultimately not arrested.

01:02:01.000 But the fact that he was accosted... I used this specific term, Alex, one week ago.

01:02:06.000 If your coverage of these people is not in a favorable light, such as an embedded type of reporter, then in this exact quote, you better saddle up for a hard ride.

01:02:15.000 Now, he could have been one of the embedded reporters, because the embedded reporters, when they went to the Republican convention, they were all for time at the spa.

01:02:24.000 I saw them being massaged and everything.

01:02:26.000 The Republicans set up a massage parlor for the reporters so that they were being pampered, they were being treated just like royalty.

01:02:35.000 That's the way they treated the reporters inside.

01:02:37.000 The reporters outside were chased, their cameras were broken, everything else happened.

01:02:42.000 This is much the same as they did in Iraq with those who were embedded, those who weren't.

01:02:42.000 That's right.

01:02:47.000 Those who weren't were targets.

01:02:49.000 Those who were embedded, sure, they're fine.

01:02:51.000 Is our news controlled?

01:02:53.000 You bet it's controlled.

01:02:54.000 We're seeing nothing that's coming out of New York.

01:02:57.000 The real story of the 300,000 protesters and what else is occurring.

01:03:02.000 What they were treated with a velvet glove.

01:03:04.000 And you know, we as people have to start thinking at a higher level and out of the box.

01:03:10.000 Because the forces that are being arrayed against you are, for better or worse, and for worse, not for better, high-level thinkers who think through a light spectrum and a looking glass.

01:03:22.000 They know how to manipulate.

01:03:23.000 Now, that's pretty hard for the average, simple American who tends to be decent.

01:03:27.000 It's just a truck driver or a waitress or somebody like that. 0.93

01:03:31.000 We have to be careful.

01:03:32.000 We have to increase our mental acumen.

01:03:35.000 We have to increase our mental abilities to understand how we're being manipulated.

01:03:39.000 We have to wake up and look at things as they are, not as we are being told or we think it is.

01:03:45.000 Ron, thank you, thank you, thank you for that wonderful call from New York City.

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01:07:37.000 My guest right now and for the rest of this half hour is Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.

01:07:44.000 Paul, this is exactly the things that you've been writing about, and I've got to ask you a couple of real quick questions while you're here.

01:07:50.000 One, you're talking about Osama bin Laden meeting with the CIA on January 4th through the 14th, 2001.

01:07:58.000 He was treated for kidney infection at the, catch this word, and I'm quoting from the book, Order Out of Chaos, American Hospital in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, where he Was treated by Dr. Terry Calloway, an American doctor, and met with CIA Station Chief Larry Mitchell, CIA Station Chief, July 4th through the 14th, 2001.

01:08:24.000 This is July, let's see, August, September, two months before 9-11.

01:08:28.000 Now, you just make up this information, where'd you get this information?

01:08:34.000 Well, I mean, the point about the book is that You know, at the bottom of every page, and this is the only decent thing I learned from being at university for two years, apart from the Marxist brainwashing course.

01:08:48.000 Was that, you know, how to do footnotes.

01:08:50.000 And that's the point of the book.

01:08:51.000 Every chapter has at least 30 footnotes which point to mainstream sources and actual internet URL links where people can go and check the information for themselves.

01:09:04.000 And that story was first reported by Le Figaro, a big French newspaper, Radio France International, and then it was picked up by both the Washington Times and United Press International.

01:09:17.000 So we're talking to major mainstream news medias reporting this, and I'll guarantee you, America has not heard that story.

01:09:24.000 Now, are you anticipating another major event before the election or before the year's over?

01:09:32.000 Are they going to have to... because you understand how these people think.

01:09:36.000 Order Out of Chaos, the elite-sponsored terrorism, and the New World Order.

01:09:42.000 When you wrote this book and after writing it, you had to have an idea of how the elite think when they are making plans for various activities, terrorist activities around the world.

01:09:55.000 Are you anticipating another event here in your own mind, Paul?

01:09:59.000 Well, I've said before that the next big terrorist attack in America, I don't think it will be right before the election because If there was an attack right before the election, the chances are that the population would rally around Bush and that he'd be re-elected.

01:10:17.000 But I see it as if they won't carry in because 1. he's got close royal relations to European royalty and the Queen of England and 2. because Bilderberg at their annual conference in Italy this year Personally selected Kerry's running mate John Edwards to be the Vice Presidential Candidate.

01:10:39.000 So if they can exert that kind of influence, and we've seen examples of it before, for example when they delayed the Iraq War, which was set to take place in late 2002, they actually delayed it several months.

01:10:52.000 If they can exert that kind of influence over selecting vice presidential candidates then obviously Kerry seems to be the pick and therefore the terrorist attack will not come before the election but after the election and As I said earlier, it will probably be a soft target, but it will be played up in the media as a big attack to then justify putting armed police in schools, shopping malls, etc, etc.

01:11:17.000 So from my vantage point, I think it's going to be after the election which will then give them the opportunity to roll out this draft.

01:11:26.000 The attack might be blamed on Groups linked to Iran because now we've even got so-called liberal NPR holding forums and debates which are you know on the radio station from big neocons from people from the Project for a New American Century who called for you know four five six years ago when Iran To be invaded and now liberal NPRs, you know, putting out that propaganda line.

01:11:52.000 So, if there is an attack after the election, it will probably be blamed on organisations linked to Iran and then the war with Iran will take place in either late 2005, early 2006.

01:12:05.000 Same thing, different players.

01:12:07.000 Instead of Iraq, it's going to be Iran. 0.99

01:12:09.000 What, were we off by one letter?

01:12:11.000 This time it's going to be Iran. 0.99

01:12:13.000 Do we have enough troops to do it?

01:12:14.000 We certainly couldn't put together a coalition of anything.

01:12:18.000 This one they call the coalition of the willing.

01:12:21.000 But you couldn't put together a coalition of anything to go into Iran.

01:12:25.000 But they're going to have to go into Iran as Iran is launching their new oil trading market.

01:12:31.000 This could upset their apple cart big time.

01:12:33.000 This could be I mean, the entire house of fiat money could fall down if Iran announces the new oil trading market, could it not?

01:12:44.000 Exactly, and what concerns me also is the fact that now that all the barriers have been removed for nuclear component parts, exports to China, who we know have armed Iran, Russia have armed Iran with nuclear components, And therefore, Iran will be allied with those two countries.

01:13:02.000 And I mean, this thing could spill over into a wider conflict on the same basis.

01:13:06.000 Iran is not the nothing country that had been totally disarmed that Iraq is.

01:13:12.000 Iran actually does have some arms.

01:13:14.000 It's a lot bigger in that sense.

01:13:16.000 Iran's not going to be a pushover, would it? 0.97

01:13:19.000 Well, no.

01:13:19.000 The current estimates from insiders are that they already have two nuclear bombs already.

01:13:26.000 Um, and they've been exchanging with North Korea also.

01:13:29.000 It's the whole, um, nuclear arms trade which flows from China to Pakistan to North Korea to Iran.

01:13:35.000 And of course we can go back, and this is also in order out of chaos, to, um, the year 2000 where Rumsfeld was on the board of ABB which, um, signed away the, um, exports and the, um, Right for the North Koreans to construct their light water reactors, which can produce nuclear components.

01:13:54.000 So Rumsfeld was instrumental, just as he was in arming Iraq, in arming North Korea.

01:14:00.000 So I mean, that's why the book's called Order Out of Chaos.

01:14:04.000 It's building up your own enemies, so then you can later call them a threat.

01:14:07.000 and invade them.

01:14:08.000 And that's not to say that countries like Iran or North Korea are not, you know, complete dictatorships.

01:14:14.000 I mean, North Korea itself has 200,000 political dissidents in concentration camps.

01:14:19.000 But, I mean, you don't go ahead and bomb the whole country and kill thousands of civilians to, you know, get rid of a corrupt dictatorship.

01:14:28.000 I mean, they could do it in different ways, even if you believe that we should be intervening in foreign countries.

01:14:33.000 But, I mean, that's the agenda with Iran. 0.56

01:14:35.000 They'll probably link Iran with Al-Sadr, and then the Shiites will be allied with some of the Iranians, and it will, you know, the conflict in Iraq will spill over to Iran.

01:14:47.000 So, I mean, they've got several different cards that they can play, but with this draft upcoming already in Congress, it's definitely a dangerous time and we need to be watchful.

01:14:57.000 Pakistan has armed everybody in the Middle East, it sounds like, except for Iraq.

01:15:04.000 Is that fairly accurate?

01:15:07.000 Well, yeah, we know who armed Iraq. 0.95

01:15:09.000 We've got pictures and video of Rumsfeld shaking hands with them.

01:15:13.000 Saddam Hussein in the December of 93 when he gave them the chemical and biological weapons. 0.82

01:15:19.000 Colin Powell was running Iranian and, you know, battlefield intelligence, Iraqi battlefield intelligence when Iran and Iraq were at war.

01:15:29.000 So, I mean, it's the same players that are still there today.

01:15:31.000 So, it's no surprise that they wouldn't resort to the same tactics to fuel the same wars.

01:15:37.000 Have you noticed how Osama bin Laden morphed into Saddam Hussein it was Osama Osama Osama and then they couldn't find him he proved pretty elusive and then all of a sudden it became Saddam Hussein and so Saddam became like Osama's ugly second brother it was really weird Osama is the person that we hate the most we're gonna track him down We haven't heard much from Osama lately. 0.74

01:16:05.000 He has certainly been the person who was missing.

01:16:07.000 You didn't hear mention of his name one time at the Republican Convention.

01:16:12.000 They weren't really anxious to have the memory of Osama Bin Laden around there.

01:16:18.000 Are they going to drag him out before the election?

01:16:21.000 That's a possibility, but there's an article out of the London Independent today, which I think is called the Bush Numbers Game, and it lists how many times Osama Bin Laden was mentioned in Bush's State of the Union speeches the last three.

01:16:34.000 And the number of times Osama Bin Laden was mentioned was zero.

01:16:38.000 And, you know, back at the time when the war in Iraq was, the propaganda was being set for that invasion, there were polls which came out which showed that 50% of Americans thought that Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were the same person.

01:16:53.000 Literally the same person.

01:16:55.000 Hey, that is really great, great PR work to be able to do that.

01:17:01.000 I mean, you have to admire these people.

01:17:03.000 in order to propagandize to that degree.

01:17:06.000 If Hitler had that type of propaganda program, man, he'd been sitting right up there. 0.96

01:17:11.000 It's amazing propaganda, amazing spin, isn't it?

01:17:14.000 Well, it is.

01:17:16.000 And I mean, we've got a video actually on prisonplanet.com in the perspective section, which is kind of a comedy take on it.

01:17:23.000 But it's got clips of Bush saying in early 2002, you know, we're going to smoke him out, we're going to kill Bin Laden.

01:17:30.000 And then switch to later speeches when Bin Laden isn't even mentioned and the very name of Bin Laden isn't mentioned. 0.75

01:17:37.000 It's just terrorist.

01:17:39.000 They just morphed the definitions and then it eventually morphed into Saddam Hussein.

01:17:44.000 So I mean Bin Laden has been on the verge of being caught on many occasions and the evidence shows that they let him escape. 0.54

01:17:50.000 I mean I've got articles from major Pakistani newspapers from back in 98 where Bin Laden was under the armed guard of elite US Marines in Pakistan.

01:18:03.000 And so, he's their boy.

01:18:05.000 If they wanted to roll him out at any time, they could do.

01:18:08.000 But, you know, he's been a good ally.

01:18:10.000 He's done a lot of good work.

01:18:11.000 I mean, he helped in, you know, the invasion of Serbia back in 95, right up to 98, Congressional Report Show.

01:18:19.000 And here's a guy who is on dialysis.

01:18:23.000 I mean, he can't be that difficult to get.

01:18:25.000 And the other thing that you mentioned in Order Out of Chaos is he was paid!

01:18:30.000 He was paid $250,000 to take out Muammar Gaddafi!

01:18:35.000 We paid Al-Qaeda. 0.99

01:18:37.000 That was actually paid by the British government.

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01:22:52.000 This is Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones with my guest Paul Joseph Watson, who was my guest yesterday.

01:23:08.000 The book Order Out of Chaos and let me quote from his book.

01:23:12.000 Your brain is the most powerful muscle in your body.

01:23:15.000 It controls all others.

01:23:17.000 Reclaim it as your own and you'll be in awe of its amazing power.

01:23:21.000 We've been presented with our final opportunity to defeat the New World Order. 0.69

01:23:25.000 If we fail to act, then our children will look back at this moment in history as one in which humanity cowered in the face of evil and signed its own death warrant.

01:23:36.000 Order out of chaos.

01:23:38.000 They've got the money.

01:23:39.000 They've got the power.

01:23:41.000 The only thing left for them is spiritual.

01:23:44.000 Isn't it, Paul?

01:23:45.000 Well, yeah, that's the case.

01:23:47.000 And in many ways, I mean, you've heard people say many times, how do we defeat such a mammoth, gargantuan system?

01:23:54.000 In a sense, I kind of think it's already preordained that we defeat it.

01:23:58.000 I think it's just a kind of a test on the part of God to see who stands up against it and who cowers, backs away, who doesn't get on the field.

01:24:06.000 So it's kind of a trial run, basically, on the way people respond to this.

01:24:11.000 So it is a spiritual battle, it's a battle for the mind.

01:24:13.000 I mean, H. G. Wells said that the 20th, 21st century would not be about, you know, the battle for, you know, the military battles.

01:24:22.000 It would be about the battle for the mind, and that's exactly what we see today.

01:24:26.000 So it's a spiritual, it's a mental battle, and it's a trial run from God about, you know, how people react to it and what people do about it.

01:24:35.000 You're exactly right.

01:24:37.000 You're going to be on with me on the 11th of September at 1030 Pacific.

01:24:44.000 You'll be on for an hour and a half.

01:24:46.000 Paul Joseph Watson on Erskine Overnight.

01:24:49.000 You can get to it either by listening to your local station or by going to GCNlive.com.

01:24:55.000 Let's go to Andrea in North Carolina.

01:24:57.000 We'll take your call real quick before the 30 marking.

01:25:00.000 Hopefully, Andrea in New York.

01:25:02.000 I'm sorry.

01:25:03.000 Andrea, you're on with Paul Joseph Watson.

01:25:06.000 Hi, Erskine, and hi, Paul, and I wanted to say I was downtown at the Trade Center when Alex almost got arrested.

01:25:16.000 One of the three times, right?

01:25:18.000 Tell me about what's going on there and your comments.

01:25:21.000 Well, I haven't been out today, but what I have seen so far from a lot of the media, even the independent media, is What appears to be a good story, what appears to, but I think the establishment media wants to see entertainment.

01:25:35.000 What is going to engage the viewer so that people come and watch and I was in the march that picketed CNN and CBS and I, you know, I was listening however to people who I think a little bit operate themselves in disinformation because I was a little annoyed that you get the typical liberal bias, and I only say that because they kept attacking the media, our media.

01:26:02.000 Well, they fail to understand the technicality of it being under a Federal Communications Commission license, which is all under the executive branch.

01:26:10.000 We do need to take back our republic.

01:26:13.000 We need to go after the advertisers.

01:26:15.000 We don't need to just attack the media per se.

01:26:18.000 They are part of the corporate state.

01:26:20.000 But we need to take a very aggressive step against the advertisers and against their wallet.

01:26:25.000 See?

01:26:26.000 And I wanted to share... And promote the advertisers to go to places that are trying to get the truth out.

01:26:32.000 And this is true.

01:26:33.000 And that's exactly right.

01:26:34.000 And I also am a firm supporter, and to circle back, because I listened to Ron's comments, my fellow New Yorker, and I thought he made some very good points.

01:26:43.000 And what I found was the mix among the police departments, because some of them were very open to me sharing with them

01:26:49.000 that I was a September 11th victim and that's how come while I was downtown at the Trade Center I was in a way able to keep that police officer at bay and what was actually very interesting though is that he said that Alex lied to him and I said well you know so what that the guy doesn't have on his press passes you know I said he's been broadcasting from the garden all week long now we who live in New York know that Madison Square Garden and the Convention Center we just call it the garden

01:27:16.000 And this officer would not hear me, and I think what has happened is that there's a degree of conditioning and mind control, brainwashing, you know, give it all those labels, but this guy had reached a point where he was peeved, he was stoked, and he wasn't going to listen to reason.

01:27:34.000 Your comments on that, Paul?

01:27:37.000 Well, I mean, as Jesus said, if people don't listen to you, just dust off the dust from your shoes and move on to the next day.

01:27:44.000 People will get angry with you because it threatens their very perspective and mindset and the way they've lived their lives, their whole lives.

01:27:52.000 If you suddenly tell them that the world operates in a completely different way from what they've imagined for 40, 50 years, then obviously In a kind of survivalist instinct, they're going to lash out and reject that.

01:28:02.000 It's a basic human instinct.

01:28:05.000 They're going to lash out at the messenger, aren't they, Paul?

01:28:09.000 Not the message, they're going to lash out at the messenger.

01:28:12.000 That is what's happening with a lot of the police there.

01:28:16.000 Excellent.

01:28:16.000 Do you have anything you wanted to add, Andrea?

01:28:18.000 Well, thank you.

01:28:20.000 The Lord made some wonderful observations.

01:28:22.000 Among other things, you know, that the, you know, casting your pearls before swine, you run the risk that you're going to be rent.

01:28:29.000 And I think that the Lord himself, he admonished us to be wiser serpents than generalist doves.

01:28:34.000 And that doesn't then provoke that kind of swine attack on us. 0.89

01:28:39.000 Thank you, Andrea.

01:28:39.000 You're right.

01:28:40.000 Thank you, Paul Joseph Watson.

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01:32:04.000 And Alex will be joining us from New York City.

01:32:08.000 And we certainly appreciate the calls from Ron and from Andrea from New York.

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01:32:17.000 will be putting you on without a lot of delay You definitely want a copy of Order Out of Chaos.

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01:32:45.000 I thought I did.

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01:32:51.000 I've had all these guests on.

01:32:53.000 I know what's happening.

01:32:55.000 Well, Paul Watson woke me up to a lot of things that I didn't know about.

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01:34:13.000 Let's go to Eric in Connecticut.

01:34:14.000 Eric, welcome to the Alex Jones program.

01:34:18.000 Thank you, Erskine.

01:34:19.000 You and Paul have done a decent job filling in for Alex.

01:34:23.000 Thank you, sir.

01:34:24.000 It's just filling in.

01:34:26.000 We are not replacing Alex.

01:34:28.000 There is nobody who can replace Alex, so I appreciate that.

01:34:31.000 Do you have a question or a comment?

01:34:34.000 Well, I don't know if Paul's listening.

01:34:37.000 If he lives in London, I have in-laws in his neck of the woods through my wife.

01:34:42.000 I was hardly surprised to see the events of 9-11 used as a blunt instrument in a GOP convention.

01:34:51.000 Certain victims were presented um... references with all kinds of very uh... uh... slick imagery um... sound productions it's like you said it was like a hollywood production It was slick, wasn't it?

01:35:10.000 I mean, these people know what they're doing.

01:35:12.000 They know how to put spins on things.

01:35:14.000 They know how to produce things.

01:35:16.000 They are using the ultimate in control.

01:35:20.000 They're flashing images.

01:35:22.000 Everything that you can imagine, isn't it?

01:35:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:35:24.000 Well, you know, it's interesting because there was a wonderful movie made back in 1957.

01:35:28.000 Elia Kazan produced it.

01:35:32.000 And it's called A Face in the Crowd.

01:35:34.000 It was Andy Griffith's first role on the big screen.

01:35:38.000 And basically he's an itinerant Arkansas traveler, guitar picker, sort of a down-home philosopher.

01:35:46.000 And this woman whose uncle runs a station in town discovers him.

01:35:54.000 And it chronicles his whole meteoric rise, the fame and fortune, and how he gets involved with these political figures.

01:36:03.000 And how they use him to promote this candidate to a basically a real status candidate to becoming on the verge of being elected president.

01:36:22.000 And it's very interesting, I won't spoil it for anyone who wants to see the movie, but he gets quite a jolt when he realizes the protagonist, Mr. Griffith, who's Lonesome Rhodes, that's the name of the character, the protagonist, He realizes quite a shock when wherever there's power, there's somebody with even more power.

01:36:41.000 But it was interesting because this movie was truly ahead of its time because it was the network of the 1950s.

01:36:49.000 And how this general was telling his audience, his people, in his circle, that people don't want long-winded dissertations.

01:36:59.000 They want soundbite slogans.

01:37:02.000 You know, the mess in Washington.

01:37:04.000 More bang for the buck.

01:37:05.000 You know, basically he's saying, well we need slick personalities that can be presented by the media.

01:37:11.000 We really don't need detailed presentations of people because they don't have the patience for that.

01:37:17.000 Well, it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

01:37:17.000 And that's exactly what we want.

01:37:19.000 Don't be economic, girly man.

01:37:22.000 Precisely.

01:37:23.000 Okay, tell that to the 1.3 million Americans who've sunk into poverty, but the fact of the matter is, that's a quote that people remember.

01:37:30.000 They want sound bites.

01:37:31.000 First time I ever did TV, I had a PR person who worked with me, and he said, now listen, you're doing television, and that's why I like radio so much.

01:37:39.000 You're doing television, it's all sound bites.

01:37:41.000 Say something memorable, something they can pick up on, something they can go, cling, cling, cling.

01:37:45.000 It's all 10 second sound bites on television.

01:37:49.000 Radio, you can get into some actual facts.

01:37:51.000 We can actually talk about things like you and I are talking about and discussing back and forth.

01:37:55.000 You don't get that on TV.

01:37:57.000 That's true, but I just wanted to mention that movie because it was so prophetic in many ways.

01:38:03.000 I also wanted to mention, Erskine, it was good to see that half of New Yorkers smell a rat with the attacks of 9-11.

01:38:10.000 And if New Yorkers smell a rat, what about the folks in flyover country?

01:38:14.000 Can you imagine how they feel about this?

01:38:17.000 I think a lot of them are still asleep, but we haven't done any polls on there.

01:38:21.000 There's been no Zogby poll across the rest of America, but I find also the Toronto Star poll, 63% of Canadians are smelling a rat, so apparently the word is getting out across the world, not just America.

01:38:37.000 And you know in Europe, they're getting less filtered news.

01:38:41.000 Right.

01:38:43.000 Yeah.

01:38:44.000 Hey, I thank you for the call.

01:38:47.000 We've got a couple of other callers that we need to go with.

01:38:50.000 Anything else you'd like to add, Eric?

01:38:52.000 Yeah, just one thing.

01:38:54.000 Paul mentioned the selection of Kerry.

01:38:57.000 I'm just thinking the only thing that could throw a monkey wrench into Paul's theory, Erskine, is the band of neocons.

01:39:05.000 There's this band of neocons.

01:39:07.000 They sort of realize that the jig is up for them, and they could As a cabal, pull something before the election so as to ensure the re-election of George Bush.

01:39:18.000 I'm not seeing these people wanting to be out of office and the other thing that I differ with Paul on is they passed all of these and the President was so anxious to get Patriot 2 passed and as Alex has chronicled so well on this program They have done it incrementally, bits and pieces, attaching it to one bill after another, and they didn't get all this power to turn it over to Kerry.

01:39:42.000 Exactly right.

01:39:43.000 I do see the neocon cabal becoming extremely dangerous, particularly in the days and weeks just prior to the election.

01:39:50.000 Thanks a lot, Erskine.

01:39:51.000 Thank you.

01:39:52.000 Let's go immediately to Moses in Denmark.

01:39:54.000 Hi, Moses.

01:39:58.000 Hello.

01:39:58.000 You're on the Alex Jones Program.

01:40:00.000 Moses, are you there?

01:40:01.000 Yeah, I'm there.

01:40:03.000 I want to just say two things.

01:40:06.000 The first thing is about this U.S. 0.56

01:40:08.000 election.

01:40:10.000 U.S.

01:40:11.000 election is never elected by ballot, by by blot.

01:40:14.000 The carry will win.

01:40:16.000 And the second comment I will say, I don't buy these products from these multinational companies anymore.

01:40:24.000 I think if you buy them, you support Satanism and that like that.

01:40:27.000 That's my attitude to that.

01:40:30.000 You support that.

01:40:32.000 You will gain if you buy the product.

01:40:34.000 Coca-Cola?

01:40:35.000 Yeah.

01:40:35.000 No.

01:40:36.000 No, Paul isn't here, but when you're talking about the main controllers, I go straight to the banksters and the multinational corporations, and I can't disagree with you.

01:40:48.000 I buy small family products if I can.

01:40:52.000 Sometimes I don't can't.

01:40:54.000 I buy them.

01:40:55.000 I have a bad feeling in my mouth now.

01:40:59.000 I don't buy them.

01:41:00.000 I try to buy.

01:41:02.000 Product from small family business or middle sized company.

01:41:06.000 Absolutely.

01:41:09.000 And I analyze and I research companies who are owned by these beets.

01:41:15.000 And I have a list of all the companies I don't buy.

01:41:19.000 I'm starting to totally abolish fruit and vegetables that are not organic.

01:41:31.000 Wait a second, wait a second.

01:41:34.000 There's a gentleman who wrote a book called Metro Farm.

01:41:38.000 His name's Olson, Michael Olson.

01:41:40.000 And he said don't buy any fruits or vegetables without the farmer's picture on it.

01:41:44.000 You've got a local fruit stand.

01:41:46.000 Go down and get it from the local fruit stand.

01:41:49.000 Stay away from the groceries.

01:41:50.000 Buy whatever you can organically and from the people who grow it who you know.

01:41:55.000 I know.

01:41:56.000 I was just saying about this fruit.

01:41:58.000 Our vegetables, people who sell vegetables, these small vegetable dealers here, a lot of them, if you drink it, it tastes like cocaine if you get less, like fruit or, I don't buy a lot of these small, I heard it tastes like, it tastes a bit small, sweet taste, the cocaine, I don't know, I just heard about it.

01:42:25.000 Much better.

01:42:26.000 Much better.

01:42:27.000 I don't know.

01:42:28.000 I tried to buy it.

01:42:30.000 You say this about this picture of the farmer.

01:42:35.000 We don't have it here.

01:42:38.000 I don't know.

01:42:38.000 Well, if you've got a local farmer, or I noticed when I was in Germany, Moses, they have people for their therapy, and it's a wonderful thing.

01:42:49.000 I was going down on the ICE train, InterCity Express, and you're looking over the side, and everyone has these little gardens, and it's a wonderful thing.

01:43:00.000 Moses, thanks so much for the call.

01:43:01.000 Let's go to Nolan in Texas right now.

01:43:03.000 Nolan?

01:43:06.000 You're on the Alex Jones Program.

01:43:07.000 Well, I gotta go with Moses on that.

01:43:11.000 Not buying from the big corporations and going to get some decent food.

01:43:17.000 Absolutely!

01:43:18.000 I'm telling you, down there in Texas, if you've got somebody, either grow your own or go to somebody who you know is growing it.

01:43:25.000 You know where I am, you can go out and you can go to a farmer.

01:43:28.000 Yes.

01:43:29.000 We've got little stands on the side of the road around here and I found a fellow that He doesn't use very many pesticides.

01:43:34.000 He says he doesn't like that stuff either.

01:43:37.000 And the bell peppers and tomatoes at the grocery store have a wax sprayed on them.

01:43:40.000 You can't scrub it off.

01:43:42.000 You betcha!

01:43:43.000 It's messed up.

01:43:44.000 And messed up!

01:43:46.000 And that's what happened to my stomach when I was walking through the living room and the Republican convention was on and Arnold was up there.

01:43:53.000 Wasn't that something?

01:43:55.000 Wasn't that something?

01:43:57.000 I used to like him.

01:43:59.000 And they talked about when he got finished He's putting out this great thesis and he's such a great actor!

01:44:04.000 Yeah, no kidding!

01:44:06.000 You can't convince me he believed that, Kroc! 0.97

01:44:09.000 Well, then he starts talking about the Democrats putting out true lies, and I'm thinking about, yeah, well, you did another movie there, Arnold, called Predator, and that's the way I'm looking at it.

01:44:19.000 They're predators.

01:44:20.000 They're preying on the middle class of America. 0.89

01:44:23.000 The elite are preying on the middle class of America.

01:44:26.000 The top 1% in America control 70% of this country right now, and they're predating on the rest of us.

01:44:33.000 They really are, Nolan.

01:44:34.000 You know that.

01:44:36.000 But try to go anywhere.

01:44:38.000 You go into a Walmart, you're going to find everything from China.

01:44:41.000 It's like they are Chinese representative in marketing.

01:44:45.000 There are just so many products you can't even buy made in America anymore.

01:44:50.000 Everything is starting to really stink.

01:44:52.000 But I'm watching Kerry.

01:44:55.000 Just enough to kind of get the flavor, you know?

01:44:57.000 I don't want to just focus on him because they all make me sick.

01:45:01.000 But I see him.

01:45:02.000 I'm wondering if he is He's basically self-destructing, in my opinion, and I'm wondering if he's... You know, they're both stolen bones, and they're both members of the same elite group.

01:45:15.000 They don't really care who's driving the boat.

01:45:17.000 They're both just shafting America to death anyway.

01:45:21.000 Kerry doesn't need the job. 0.99

01:45:22.000 It's not like he's not plenty wealthy. 0.99

01:45:24.000 He's married to Hines, and I think that he's setting himself up to not even make a good showing, and if the polls show That Kerry is going to put in a good show, and even after he's flip-flopped and made an idiot of himself? 0.87

01:45:38.000 That's whenever I'm expecting a major problem in America that we can call a national emergency of just not having an election. 0.86

01:45:47.000 Uh, it could well occur because the President has all the powers where he doesn't even have to call an election.

01:45:53.000 Nolan, I want to thank you for the call and I appreciate it and keep buying as much locally as you can.

01:46:00.000 Deal with the little fella that still owns the local this, that, and the other. 1.00

01:46:04.000 I've always been that way.

01:46:06.000 They're putting money back into your local economy.

01:46:12.000 The same thing with your local radio stations that you know that are putting money back into the economy.

01:46:19.000 The local, go down to the diner.

01:46:21.000 Don't go to the fast food restaurant.

01:46:23.000 Go to the diner and talk to some people.

01:46:25.000 See some real people.

01:46:26.000 Don't just get wrapped up in plastic.

01:46:29.000 Oh, plastic.

01:46:29.000 Bad business.

01:46:31.000 I drink 2 or 3 quarts of water a day out of a glass jug.

01:46:34.000 No plan.

01:46:36.000 You're a good man and the other thing is down there in Texas enjoy some good old-fashioned chicken fried steak.

01:46:41.000 Ain't nothing better.

01:46:43.000 That's what I hear.

01:46:43.000 You're not going to get that at McDonald's.

01:46:46.000 No you don't.

01:46:46.000 Thank you.

01:46:48.000 I had fun.

01:46:49.000 You too.

01:46:50.000 Now let's go to Austin.

01:46:51.000 Who am I talking with?

01:46:54.000 Hi Mo.

01:46:55.000 Hey it's Mo.

01:46:57.000 Just talking about the food and everything.

01:47:00.000 The enigmatic they, the rulers of the world.

01:47:04.000 Really have their stuff together.

01:47:06.000 They probably have it set up to where we go to work to make the money to buy the food that makes us sick, get the medicine to make us better, and we can go back to work.

01:47:15.000 Why don't we have a Diet Coke or a Diet Pepsi with that?

01:47:19.000 Have your dose of that aspartame and enjoy that methyl alcohol.

01:47:22.000 Yes, sir!

01:47:23.000 And then have a supersize it, too.

01:47:25.000 Right!

01:47:26.000 So they're poisoning us, and then they're sending us back to work.

01:47:30.000 I mean, do you ever feel like a drone?

01:47:33.000 I wonder, I wonder I'd like to see some charts like the soda making company, how much money do they have invested in diabetic test strips and insulin production.

01:47:45.000 It'd just be neat to see some sort of flow chart indicating that.

01:47:50.000 Well, we've done shows where we've shown the flowchart of the people who were in charge of the FDA and approved the aspartame.

01:47:59.000 And who was in charge of the FDA?

01:48:01.000 Who was in charge of Cyril, the company that came out with aspartame, going in and getting it through the FDA?

01:48:08.000 Donald Rumsfeld.

01:48:10.000 All this ties up.

01:48:11.000 He was president of Cyril when Aspartame was approved.

01:48:16.000 He was the man who got it through the FDA.

01:48:19.000 Donald Rumsfeld.

01:48:21.000 The man has no conscience whatsoever.

01:48:25.000 Ol' Rummy.

01:48:25.000 Yep.

01:48:27.000 Another thing, if we have time, just real quick on Alex's local access show here last night.

01:48:35.000 They took a call from a gentleman named Ron Who said that he had gotten, his wife had gotten a phone call from a friend of hers she hadn't heard from in five years that works for Homeland Security.

01:48:48.000 She said that friend warned her not to be in Austin this weekend.

01:48:53.000 I just want to say that to not be a sensationalist, but to hopefully dissuade anything from happening anywhere.

01:49:03.000 Um...

01:49:05.000 I know the fella who called in.

01:49:07.000 If I hadn't have known who it was, I might have been able to shrug it off just a little more easily.

01:49:14.000 But I was not pleased at all to hear that.

01:49:17.000 But we could envision some scenario where something happened and of course they could blame it on the terrorists and say, well they're just trying to get back at Bush.

01:49:27.000 We just want to say, don't do anything anywhere.

01:49:32.000 Just keep keeping the peace.

01:49:34.000 That's your job.

01:49:36.000 Chill out.

01:49:37.000 We'll be back on Alex Jones Show.

01:49:39.000 Mo, thank you for the call, Mo.

01:49:41.000 Hey, folks, Alex Jones here.

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01:52:47.000 Headlines Iraq Headlines Iraq Police fire at reporters as tanks roll up to the shrine.

01:53:04.000 This is George Bush's war.

01:53:05.000 He's going to tell it the way he wants it told, and any reporter that doesn't do that will pay the ultimate price, including death, which has already happened.

01:53:15.000 51 reporters dead in Iraq for telling the truth.

01:53:21.000 If you don't believe it, you can check out Reporters Without Borders and see how many imprisoned or murdered have been silenced.

01:53:28.000 They need your support to keep a free press for which they're willing to die.

01:53:31.000 Without it, you have only a dictatorship.

01:53:34.000 And isn't that why we're in Iraq?

01:53:36.000 No matter how things change, they still remain the same.

01:53:41.000 This is the newfound freedom Bush has for Iraq and has for the U.S.

01:53:46.000 They're just like us.

01:53:47.000 They now have controlled media, too.

01:53:49.000 That's democracy, boys and girls, only in Iraq. 0.95

01:53:52.000 They shoot protesters dead in the streets.

01:53:54.000 We haven't got to that point yet.

01:53:56.000 Let's go to Debra in Michigan. 0.96

01:53:58.000 Debra, welcome to the Alex Jones Radio Program.

01:54:05.000 Hello, Debra. 1.00

01:54:09.000 Let's go to Jack in Ohio.

01:54:10.000 Jack?

01:54:12.000 How you doing?

01:54:14.000 You're great and fabulous.

01:54:15.000 How about yourself?

01:54:16.000 How are things in Ohio, the battleground state?

01:54:19.000 Yeah, well, most people, I think they're just asleep.

01:54:23.000 I mean, they're like robots, rats in a maze.

01:54:26.000 The hive mind.

01:54:29.000 I think you guys are waking them up, though.

01:54:32.000 Those poles in New York, you know? 1.00

01:54:36.000 Well, when you've got almost 50% of New Yorkers saying, hey, listen, there's something rotten here, then you've got some people waking up.

01:54:45.000 You can fool some of the people some of the time, but most of the people most of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

01:54:51.000 Abe Lincoln said that one.

01:54:54.000 Huh?

01:54:55.000 Abe Lincoln said that.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:54:58.000 And 66% in Canada, I guess.

01:55:00.000 63% in Canada are awake.

01:55:06.000 But here's the thing, uh, you know, I don't see how out of a country of 280 million, Bush and Kerry, both third cousins, skull and bones, and they only have 15 members a year now.

01:55:22.000 Wouldn't that kind of make people suspicious?

01:55:26.000 Wouldn't you think that of the two people really running, representing each of the major parties in the U.S., they could have got somebody who wasn't skull and bones?

01:55:34.000 It definitely seems like it, if it wasn't pre-planned and pre-programmed. 1.00

01:55:39.000 Yeah, but if people know this and they still don't wake up, what are they, just ignorant, stupid idiots? 1.00

01:55:45.000 What are they? 1.00

01:55:46.000 Mentally ill?

01:55:48.000 A lot of people, a lot of people are starting to wake up.

01:55:52.000 A lot of people are starting to wake up, Jack, and people lose their pension funds, they're looking at Social Security being devastated, they're looking at their sons and daughters dying, and you've got a president talking about where you have peace right now, we're doing much, much better, and you're hearing about the economy's coming along.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, the economy's coming along, it's coming along down the tubes.

01:56:19.000 Isn't that something?

01:56:20.000 If you vote for Kerry, that's just more of a flip-flop of Bush, isn't it?

01:56:25.000 I don't see any difference between the two.

01:56:27.000 There are other parties out there... Well, I was going to change things.

01:56:29.000 Nader, Nader, he just takes the vote away from Bush.

01:56:33.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:56:35.000 You vote for another party because I don't think it really matters if Bush or Kerry.

01:56:39.000 I think they're both skull and bones.

01:56:41.000 But not voting is a vote away, isn't it?

01:56:43.000 Not voting?

01:56:44.000 Not voting can certainly be a vote.

01:56:46.000 I mean, if enough people didn't vote, they would know that there's no two-party system.

01:56:53.000 Well, a lot of us have taken that attitude.

01:56:56.000 I'm just flat not going to vote anymore because it's just no sense in it.

01:57:00.000 I don't want to give my vote to either one.

01:57:01.000 I don't like either one of them.

01:57:04.000 It's been a while since I was excited about somebody to vote for.

01:57:08.000 Actually, I've got no bones about it, I'll just flat-tell people.

01:57:11.000 And no bones about it, no skull or bones about it.

01:57:14.000 There are two that I liked.

01:57:15.000 I liked Ross Perot and I really liked Ronald Reagan.

01:57:19.000 He made me feel very good about being American.

01:57:22.000 We'll be right back after these brief words with Deborah in Michigan and Joe in Maryland.

01:57:29.000 Thanks for listening to Alex Jones' show.

01:57:32.000 And, Jack, thanks for the call.

01:57:35.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 This Hurskin hosts the Hurskin Overnight, sitting in today only for Alex Jones.

01:58:11.000 He will be back Monday, Lord willing.

01:58:15.000 The Greeks don't rise, he doesn't get arrested again. 0.52

01:58:18.000 There have been three attempts to arrest him in New York and we're expecting to hear from him this hour.

01:58:25.000 We had Paul Joseph Watson, who wrote the book, Order Out of Chaos.

01:58:29.000 You've got the Alex Jones video, America Dictators, the staged election of 2004.

01:58:34.000 The election's going to be staged.

01:58:38.000 You're looking back.

01:58:39.000 They've got everything in place, the electronic voting, everything in place to stage the election.

01:58:44.000 They've got all the propaganda machines wrapping it up, really cranking it out.

01:58:50.000 You watch the staged program.

01:58:52.000 Oh, that was certainly exciting to see the Republicans and the Democrats.

01:58:56.000 putting in, I was just on pins and needles to see who the Republicans were going to nominate.

01:59:02.000 Oh, that was certainly exciting to see the Republicans and the Democrats.

01:59:07.000 You're not hearing about anybody else, just those two.

01:59:10.000 For one week on the Democrats, one week on the Republicans.

01:59:14.000 It was Skull and Bones night!

01:59:16.000 Two weeks of Skull and Bones!

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01:59:23.000 Get Police State 1, 2, and 3.

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01:59:37.000 American Dictators, a new video, 1995 is all that video is.

01:59:42.000 The American Dictators and Matrix of Evil, and also to get Order Out of Chaos.

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01:59:51.000 I mean, I read it cover to cover twice.

01:59:54.000 It is fabulous!

01:59:55.000 Paul Joseph Watson's going to be on my program, Erskine Overnight, coming up on September 11th, 1030 Pacific.

02:00:03.000 It's going to be three hours later in the Eastern Time Zone, about 1030 Pacific.

02:00:07.000 Paul Joseph Watson will be on for an hour and a half.

02:00:10.000 To get that, go to your local radio station.

02:00:13.000 If they're not carrying Erskine overnight, ask them, why aren't you?

02:00:17.000 And if you can't get it there, then go to www.GCNLive.com.

02:00:26.000 Or you can go to my website, if you want to write me, Erskine on radio, E-R-S-K-I-N-E on radio.com, and you'll hear about the new guest, whoever's coming up, and all the previous guests who have been there.

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02:01:02.000 and you certainly need this book, Order Out of Chaos.

02:01:05.000 We don't have a whole lot of time, but I want to go immediately to Deborah in Michigan and may have to hold her over.

02:01:12.000 Deborah, welcome to the Alex Jones program.

02:01:15.000 Hi, Erskine.

02:01:16.000 God, I listen to you every Saturday night.

02:01:19.000 I love your show.

02:01:20.000 Bless your heart.

02:01:21.000 You're one of the good folks in this show.

02:01:23.000 This week I think you're really going to enjoy it.

02:01:26.000 Can I help you?

02:01:27.000 You've got a question.

02:01:28.000 I just want to say something real quick.

02:01:31.000 The program you're having on Saturday night, I have what you're going to be talking about.

02:01:37.000 I've been infected with it.

02:01:41.000 Well, we're going to have Dr. Professor Donald Scott from the University of Ontario on, and it's going to be an amazing program, and like I say, you're welcome.

02:01:50.000 It's going to be about mycoplasma, right?

02:01:53.000 Microplasmas, we're going to talk about age, chronic fatigue, Parkinson's, and the other epidemics that the United States of America, we're going to talk about who developed it, where it came from, and hopefully some advice on what you can do about it.

02:02:06.000 And I love the fact that your show is out of Phoenix.

02:02:09.000 I just recently moved to Michigan, but I lived in Scottsdale, so I miss it a lot.

02:02:16.000 Well, what I really wanted to ask you was about the lady who called earlier and the comment that you made yesterday about the thing with the um... I was wondering if you could give more information about the thing with the National Guard and about November the 1st and explain it more.

02:02:33.000 I will when we get back.

02:02:34.000 So hold on, Debra. 1.00

02:02:35.000 I'll certainly do that when we get back on Alex Jones' radio program.

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02:06:09.000 We'll be hopefully calling in from New York City, ground zero, as he did yesterday with an unbelievable report of what's going on in New York.

02:06:21.000 The report that you're not seeing covered anywhere else.

02:06:24.000 Not the sugar-coated reports that you're seeing of the 3,000 delegates, but the report of the 300,000 protesters and what's happening to them.

02:06:35.000 The 300,000 protesters and Alex's report at his own peril.

02:06:41.000 Much like he did with Bohemian Grove.

02:06:43.000 This is Bohemian Grove East.

02:06:46.000 This is the face of the New World Order. 0.82

02:06:50.000 Talking with Debra in Michigan and Debra...

02:06:53.000 Last weekend on the famous Alex Jones Access television show, Alex displayed the Texas National Guard manual for infrastructure protection.

02:07:03.000 It was delivered to him by an insider within that program.

02:07:06.000 The insider called the show and answered Alex's questions about the program and their notification to be deployed on November 1st.

02:07:15.000 The manual goes into great detail on military takeover of civic authorities, city halls, etc.

02:07:22.000 Exactly the way Alex documented in his three police state videos made over the last ten years.

02:07:30.000 That is the report that I have on it.

02:07:33.000 And it is a manual that was distributed by the Texas National Guard.

02:07:39.000 Now, this is coming about November 1st.

02:07:41.000 Could be a critical day for all of America.

02:07:44.000 It's right before the election.

02:07:46.000 And is there something coming down at that point?

02:07:49.000 It would indicate that perhaps there would be something coming up around Halloween or November 1st, which is All Souls Day.

02:07:58.000 I have no idea.

02:07:59.000 Let's hope and pray that it isn't, but that is the report and the manual that they're distributing.

02:08:05.000 That's the issue you were talking about, Debra?

02:08:08.000 Yeah, I was curious, is it just Texas or is it nationwide?

02:08:13.000 Well, the manual that Alex apparently received is from the Texas National Guard.

02:08:18.000 So, if it would be Texas, I would think it perhaps could be nationwide.

02:08:23.000 I don't know.

02:08:24.000 That's all the information I have on it.

02:08:27.000 Well, all I can say, Erskine, is I love listening to you.

02:08:32.000 I love listening to Alex.

02:08:33.000 And if it wasn't for people like the both of you, I mean, we'd still all have our head, you know, buried in the sand, you know?

02:08:43.000 Well, most of the media is controlled, Debra.

02:08:46.000 You and I both know that.

02:08:47.000 It's very, very controlled.

02:08:49.000 So I certainly appreciate everything you've said, and thank you for listening.

02:08:53.000 You're taking a big chance for all of us, and I really appreciate what you're doing for all of us Americans.

02:09:02.000 Well, you want to know something?

02:09:04.000 Living in Scottsdale, we've had the helicopters flying over my house with the bright lights about 30 feet over, just shining on the backyard, that type of thing.

02:09:13.000 So they're doing a lot of intimidation to myself and other talk show hosts.

02:09:17.000 People don't like to talk about it.

02:09:19.000 I haven't mentioned it a lot, but on at least four different occasions, they've been about 30 feet over the house with a light shining right down.

02:09:26.000 I don't know if they were Sheriff Arpaio's or whose helicopters they were, but it certainly was intimidation.

02:09:32.000 Well, we all know about Joe Arpaio.

02:09:35.000 Those of us in Phoenix and Scottsdale do.

02:09:38.000 Elsewhere, they think he's the toughest sheriff going.

02:09:41.000 Other places, we look at it as military dictatorship. 1.00

02:09:46.000 The guy is a mental problem. 1.00

02:09:47.000 There's no two ways about it. 1.00

02:09:50.000 I'm not going to comment on that.

02:09:52.000 I'll drive down the road someday and see those lights flashing on me and you know that.

02:09:56.000 I don't want to take on every battle.

02:09:59.000 My pappy once told me, he said, white knights don't always lose.

02:10:02.000 You know, dragons sometimes get you.

02:10:04.000 Thanks Debra.

02:10:05.000 Thank you.

02:10:07.000 Let's go to Joe in Maryland.

02:10:08.000 Hi Joe, how are you?

02:10:09.000 Okay, how are you doing?

02:10:11.000 Wonderful, fine and dandy on Friday.

02:10:15.000 You've got a question or a comment?

02:10:17.000 Actually, I have a comment.

02:10:19.000 Didn't catch the gentleman's name that called in that had the warning about Homeland Security, the call about Austin?

02:10:27.000 Yeah, I think that was Moe and Austin who was talking about that.

02:10:32.000 Let me tell you, that, I believe that's prophetic because I'm telling you, just talking about it right now, I've got the same anointing that I get when evil's present, that Yeshua has given to me, and let me tell you, just Talking about it, I really believe that something is up.

02:10:54.000 I mean just by the Spirit of God, only by that I believe something to watch and pray against is what I believe, that we need to really stand against it.

02:11:04.000 I had on as a guest Norio Hayakawa.

02:11:07.000 Norio came over here about 10-12 years ago from Japan and he came over to study Area 51.

02:11:14.000 He came over as a complete atheist, and I'm asking Norio, I said, Well, what's over there in Area 51, Norio?

02:11:19.000 Tell me, is it alien?

02:11:20.000 What's over there?

02:11:21.000 What's going on?

02:11:22.000 He said, No, no, it's not alien.

02:11:24.000 And he was talking about, he said, We've got these things up there that they have the holograms, and they've got this, and make you believe this, that, and the other.

02:11:31.000 And I'm saying, Then Norio, you can't trust your eyes?

02:11:34.000 He said, No.

02:11:35.000 You can't trust your ears?

02:11:36.000 He said, No.

02:11:37.000 I said, What can you trust?

02:11:38.000 He said, You can trust the Lord.

02:11:39.000 You've got to ask.

02:11:41.000 He said, that's all you can trust.

02:11:42.000 I said, I thought you were an atheist.

02:11:43.000 He said, I was, but I'm not anymore.

02:11:47.000 That's all you can trust.

02:11:49.000 Smart man.

02:11:50.000 And let me tell you, by the spirit of God, I believe there's something, you know, I pray that I'm wrong, but I'm telling you, I've been, I just moved from Dade County, Florida.

02:11:59.000 And I'll tell you what, the devils down there did not need a green card coming across the border.

02:12:05.000 And let me tell you, I learned a lot about the spirit realm in Florida.

02:12:10.000 In fact, they tried to kill me five or six different times, but the Lord prevailed.

02:12:14.000 I'm still here.

02:12:16.000 But anyway, I think you're doing a fantastic job.

02:12:19.000 I missed Alex yesterday, of all things, because I had a I didn't hear it!

02:12:22.000 appointment I couldn't believe it and I said oh it was an amazing report Joe I didn't hear it absolutely amazing I mean Alex was right there he was almost arrested three different times and the report that he gave was absolutely about Guantanamo Bay on the Hudson totally amazing Alex Alex was talking about they had orange nets where they were just like fishing.

02:12:45.000 They were grabbing everybody they could.

02:12:47.000 Reporters, everybody.

02:12:49.000 He was there at the peril of his life just like he was at Bohemian Grove.

02:12:53.000 Thank God for Alex Jones standing up and finally getting the truth out that nobody else has been putting out on any of the other news services.

02:13:02.000 Let me tell you, I've been really praying for a hedge protection.

02:13:05.000 I think it's got watching over him and protecting him and for prayers covering him in the lion's den.

02:13:14.000 Because that's who he is.

02:13:15.000 He's Daniels in the lion's den.

02:13:17.000 And it sure sounded like it.

02:13:19.000 Like I said, I missed Alex.

02:13:22.000 I caught a little bit of it, but not very much.

02:13:25.000 My radio kind of went out because I get it on an AM station.

02:13:28.000 And all of a sudden, boom, I got in a section that I couldn't hear anything.

02:13:32.000 And I caught just a little bit and not much.

02:13:37.000 And I'm really disappointed in that.

02:13:40.000 Thank you so much for the call, and keep praying for Alex's safety as I know we all are.

02:13:45.000 And let me tell you, here's something else.

02:13:46.000 You know, we've got that big storm.

02:13:48.000 With me moving, I lived through Andrea, the hurricane, in 1992, and I'm... Yeah, then they had Charlie, and now they got Fran.

02:13:58.000 And let me tell you, I have a lot of good friends down there now, and you know, my family, I've got a son there, and two grandchildren, and a daughter-in-law, and This is very frightening for them, you know.

02:14:11.000 But anyway, it looks like to me it's going up north a little bit.

02:14:14.000 I haven't heard an update, but it looks like they're at TV on and trying to listen to you.

02:14:18.000 It's kind of hard.

02:14:19.000 Hey, you do a good job.

02:14:21.000 I wish that I could stay awake after 12 o'clock and listen to you.

02:14:26.000 I understand.

02:14:27.000 I understand.

02:14:28.000 Thank you so much for the call, Jo.

02:14:30.000 Let's go immediately to Russ in Texas.

02:14:33.000 Hi, Russ.

02:14:35.000 Erskine?

02:14:36.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Program, Russ.

02:14:37.000 You're on.

02:14:38.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:14:39.000 I just wanted to bring to the listener's attention two articles from the Associated Press reported yesterday.

02:14:48.000 One was by a Michael Wiesenstein, Associated Press writer.

02:14:52.000 The article was entitled, 19 Anti-Bush Protesters Arrested in New York.

02:14:58.000 Well, that's a rather deceiving title for one.

02:15:00.000 All 19 of them, huh?

02:15:01.000 19, yeah.

02:15:02.000 19, you can count down your fingers and toes to 1700 at least.

02:15:07.000 Down in the body of the article, it says related arrests for the week numbered more than 1700.

02:15:12.000 And it said that many of those arrested were being processed from Tuesday's wave of arrests, which totaled more than 1187.

02:15:24.000 The city's chief lawyer said in court Thursday that 524 anti-GOP protesters remain in custody even though fewer than two dozen were arrested the previous day.

02:15:35.000 A legal aid lawyer told the court... How could 500 remain in custody when fewer than 24 were arrested?

02:15:44.000 Exactly.

02:15:45.000 A legal aid lawyer told the court the figure was closer to 700.

02:15:47.000 The bulk of the arrests this week were on Tuesday night.

02:15:52.000 But in the prior paragraph, this reporter wrote that Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said most had been going through the holding facility in about 90 minutes and asserted that no one was held longer than eight hours.

02:16:08.000 In a follow-up article, in a follow-up article, Associated Press, same day, it says State Supreme Court Justice John Cataldo ordered 470 protesters freed Including some who had been awaiting arraignment for almost three days.

02:16:26.000 Now this police commissioner, Ray Kelly, ought to be held accountable for his blatant and just flagrant lies. 0.78

02:16:36.000 These people are liars, they're deceivers, and the press is complicit. 0.96

02:16:41.000 And they, you know, thank God for the alternative press, or for the true press, you know, that you can only find on the internet, because these people are liars. 0.98

02:16:51.000 They need to be held accountable for their lies and their deception.

02:16:55.000 Now say what you mean, Ross.

02:16:57.000 Are you saying they're not telling the truth?

02:17:00.000 Oh, there's no question about it.

02:17:02.000 Listen to this quote that I started out with, John Ashcroft, 2004.

02:17:07.000 I'll continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein aided al-Qaeda financially and materially, despite the fact that we know he didn't. 0.53

02:17:14.000 And then he said before Congress, the administration categorically, categorically denies that it authorized the use of torture in Iraq, and I will refuse to release the Department of Justice's letter of sanctioning the use of torture. 0.63

02:17:29.000 Now, talk about liars.

02:17:31.000 Listen to what these people are saying. 0.90

02:17:33.000 Use your brain, as Paul Joseph Watson says.

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02:21:41.000 This is Erskine Guest hosting for Alex Jones.

02:21:57.000 And coming up on my program this weekend, it's at 9 o'clock Pacific, midnight East Coast.

02:22:04.000 So if you can stay up listening the first hour without Homeland Security getting upset with you, by the time 1 o'clock you may take your little radio and put it under the covers.

02:22:12.000 Because if you're up over 1 o'clock, you know...

02:22:16.000 That's a problem.

02:22:17.000 But coming up this weekend, Professor Donald W. Scott from Ontario, Canada, offering the startling revelation that the United States government has a patent for engineered pathogenic microplasma.

02:22:28.000 This is where AIDS and chronic fatigue came from.

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02:22:34.000 We're losing 8,000 people a day.

02:22:39.000 8,000 a day from AIDS and the chronic fatigue and why they were developed and how.

02:22:44.000 Then Michael Brown's going to be with us.

02:22:47.000 And then finally, Harry Brown.

02:22:49.000 No, not related.

02:22:50.000 Harry's going to be talking about freedom and unfree worldwide government doesn't work.

02:22:55.000 That's 9 o'clock Pacific, midnight East Coast time.

02:23:00.000 Be sure to listen to Erskine Overnight this Saturday.

02:23:03.000 My website, www.erskineonradio.com, where you can contact me.

02:23:09.000 And then in two weeks, Paul Joseph Watson, Order Out of Chaos, and also Bob Chapman is going to give us an update as to what's happening economically around the world.

02:23:20.000 So, a couple of very, very fine shows coming up.

02:23:24.000 I'd like to thank Alex for the opportunity to guest host, and I'd also like to thank his audience.

02:23:30.000 You're the best callers and listeners anyone would ever want!

02:23:34.000 Thank you for keeping up and not being afraid to learn the truth.

02:23:40.000 Did you hear that?

02:23:40.000 Not being afraid to learn the truth.

02:23:42.000 So many Americans today are afraid to even hear the truth.

02:23:45.000 They don't want it!

02:23:46.000 They don't want to hear it!

02:23:47.000 They don't want to know about it!

02:23:48.000 What's it going to take to wake up Americans, as Al Martin says, Make NFL pay-per-view.

02:23:55.000 That would do it.

02:23:56.000 That'd wake them up.

02:23:58.000 Domino's doesn't deliver.

02:24:00.000 And if beer went on strike, most Americans would just say, oh, it's over for us.

02:24:05.000 We've got to do something.

02:24:07.000 They'd really be protesting.

02:24:08.000 But in New York, there are 300,000 protesting right now.

02:24:13.000 You're not watching it on NBC, CNN.

02:24:16.000 No, no, you're not.

02:24:17.000 It's not on CBS.

02:24:19.000 It's not on ABC.

02:24:20.000 The only place you can hear about it is right here on the Alex Jones Radio Program, and Alex will be back with you Monday.

02:24:28.000 Go to Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com for an update, and also look at Alex's videos.

02:24:36.000 They are something.

02:24:37.000 They are something.

02:24:38.000 His new video, American Dictators, The staged election of 2004.

02:24:44.000 You think the convention was staged when you're watching how pretty Mr. Bush went out and the whole thing and the way that they started with their day of diversity?

02:24:53.000 I mean, if you were black, you had to picture on TV in the Republican convention.

02:24:58.000 I mean, they had everybody, every nationality they could come with.

02:25:02.000 And then the next day is like All-White Day. 0.82

02:25:04.000 It was really weird.

02:25:06.000 But it's very, very strange.

02:25:08.000 You think that was staged?

02:25:09.000 Wait till you see this election coming up.

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02:25:21.000 Meanwhile, our number is 800-259-9231.

02:25:23.000 And we're going to Richard in Alabama, land of the crimson tide.

02:25:30.000 Hey Richard, welcome to Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:25:34.000 Is your Saturday night program on shortwave?

02:25:38.000 I don't think so, Richard.

02:25:40.000 I'm sorry.

02:25:42.000 It's a wasteland Saturday night.

02:25:44.000 But anyway... Hi!

02:25:47.000 Yes, sir?

02:25:48.000 This morning at 10 a.m.

02:25:49.000 Central Time, I heard on the Information Radio Network News that some American girls had been discovered in Nigeria in an orphanage.

02:26:05.000 And these girls were supposed to be in the custody of Child Protective Services And they were supposed to be in a foster home here in America.

02:26:17.000 But somehow, they got lost and they wound up in Nigeria.

02:26:27.000 And there's, that, it's been an awful lot of girls getting lost in Child Protective Services. 0.82

02:26:34.000 Because they do have a value, they can be sold in certain parts of the world.

02:26:42.000 Well, that's not like going to Birmingham and ending up in Huntsville.

02:26:48.000 I mean, we're talking about from the U.S.

02:26:50.000 to Nigeria, which also, and we've had Ted Gunderson, we've had John DeCamp on talking about the child pornography and the child slavery that's going on, and this is another part of the New World Order that they're doing. 0.94

02:27:02.000 They're using our children for this, and not only with the child pornography and slavery, but also with the homosexuality. 0.96

02:27:10.000 They're using our children. 0.97

02:27:12.000 In all of this.

02:27:12.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:14.000 Don't go away Richard, because I want to talk with you.

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02:31:08.000 Oh, we got the men in black, or the men in black, Johnny Case, talking about the Ring of Fire.

02:31:15.000 This is the Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:31:17.000 This is Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones.

02:31:20.000 Hopefully Alex will be back with us come Monday.

02:31:23.000 I know we all want to hear what's going on with Alex, and we'll hopefully have an answer for you before this hour is over.

02:31:30.000 We're talking with Richard Alabama.

02:31:32.000 Richard, you're going to have to keep your radio, your TV, and your newspaper, and you're going to have to look for those little bitty stories and catch those stories like that one about the girls in Coming out of the orphanage in Nigeria because you're going to have to look at those very closely.

02:31:49.000 You catch that story one time and then you're not going to hear it anymore on the major media.

02:31:54.000 Well, you're right.

02:31:55.000 The next hour they didn't repeat it.

02:31:59.000 But maybe it's still up on the IRN website.

02:32:03.000 If Information Radio News has a website maybe somebody could Definitely worth going to.

02:32:10.000 Anything else you want to comment on?

02:32:12.000 I don't have internet.

02:32:15.000 I was just hoping that you might be able to research the matter and find it.

02:32:20.000 We can certainly check into it.

02:32:21.000 I want to thank you for the call there, Richard, and have yourself a real good day and a wonderful weekend.

02:32:27.000 Let's go to Tom in North Carolina.

02:32:29.000 Tom, hey, down on Tar Heel State.

02:32:32.000 How you doing, Hurston?

02:32:33.000 You're doing fine and dandy.

02:32:35.000 Thank you, sir.

02:32:36.000 One thing I wanted to bring up.

02:32:37.000 Last month in North Carolina, one of the largest rob and stage operations began with over 4,000 North Carolina National Guardsmen being trained by special forces.

02:32:47.000 The training is taking place on and off of Fort Bragg, as well as in the wilderness areas in various counties.

02:32:53.000 Now part of this training is for checkpoints, taking over local county government, law enforcement, as well as search and seizure.

02:33:03.000 So this has been going on since last month.

02:33:07.000 And, uh, this is, uh, serious.

02:33:09.000 And, uh, one other point, uh, over ten years ago, I believe it's Article 74 having to do with unlawful orders.

02:33:17.000 Most of the Article 72 to Article 74 has been removed from most of the training manuals.

02:33:21.000 So they're not, uh, teaching our soldiers anything about, uh, having to disobey lawful or unlawful orders.

02:33:28.000 So I just wanted to bring that point up.

02:33:30.000 Okay, now these are the new terrorist drills which are being held in cities across the United States.

02:33:37.000 They've identified some of the cities as New York, Boston, Washington, Chicago, San Francisco, LA.

02:33:42.000 They will not announce the cities beyond that, nor will they announce the exact timings.

02:33:46.000 We now know that they're in North Carolina.

02:33:49.000 They want these to be short notice drills to simulate the most realistic effects.

02:33:54.000 These drills include a mock terrorist attack using biological, biochemical, chemical and nuclear weapons.

02:34:01.000 So if Osama Bin Laden or Al Qaeda doesn't bring terror to us, Bush Cheney will deliver terrorism.

02:34:07.000 It's like George Bush said, we're not going to wait for Osama Bin Laden to terrorize you.

02:34:12.000 No!

02:34:12.000 We're going to do it!

02:34:13.000 Look at ourselves.

02:34:13.000 Look at what's going on.

02:34:15.000 This is exactly what's happening.

02:34:16.000 These are mock drills.

02:34:17.000 And when they're doing the mock drills, you and I both know they're planning for the real thing.

02:34:23.000 And who better would know when it's going to happen?

02:34:26.000 So that is certainly a frightening report there, Tom, that they're doing these drills.

02:34:32.000 The other thing that happened I'm trying to think of what state it was where they had a police went in and they ended up taking all the weapons of everybody including an 87 year old woman because one policeman got shot in the shoulder.

02:34:50.000 This happened about three weeks ago.

02:34:52.000 They are coming after your guns.

02:34:54.000 There's no question.

02:34:56.000 Talking with Debra, and Debra was talking about Arizona. 0.95

02:34:59.000 Arizona and Montana, if they come in and they do a gun confiscation, then both states are thinking about maybe withdrawing from the Union because they aren't going to put up with the gun confiscation or the abolishment of the Constitution.

02:35:15.000 We've had the Constitution torn to shreds, but it's still hanging on by a very thin thread.

02:35:23.000 So, Tom, their posse comitatus looks like it's going by the wayside real quick, doesn't it?

02:35:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:35:31.000 And this is nothing new.

02:35:32.000 Even if you go into Alex Jones' police state, too, he shows different cities and areas in North Carolina.

02:35:39.000 Swansboro, for instance, where they took over that town completely.

02:35:44.000 So in a lot of these new National Guardsmen, I spoke to a few of them.

02:35:48.000 They're young.

02:35:49.000 A lot of the older National Guardsmen, they're not even in the country.

02:35:53.000 Some of them are even sheriff's deputies that have even recently left for Iraq in the last few weeks.

02:35:57.000 So the older guys, 35 and older, they're out.

02:36:01.000 You have a lot of young guys in there with the training from the public school system, so they have no idea.

02:36:06.000 And the young people, they have no idea about unlawful orders.

02:36:11.000 No, and they also have no idea.

02:36:13.000 They take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, and they have no idea what the Constitution is.

02:36:19.000 Thanks for the call, Tom.

02:36:20.000 Let's go to Mark in Rhode Island.

02:36:22.000 Mark, you're on the Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:36:25.000 Hey, Erskine.

02:36:26.000 How you doing there, brother?

02:36:27.000 I just want to let you know you're doing an excellent job, and you and Michael Corbin have done a great job filling in for Alex.

02:36:32.000 Hey, I really appreciate your whole demeanor and your hearty laugh.

02:36:38.000 I don't know what state you're from.

02:36:39.000 But you just sound like a real good guy.

02:36:42.000 Thank you, sir.

02:36:43.000 Got a question?

02:36:44.000 I got a couple of real quick comments you're asking.

02:36:48.000 Yes, sir.

02:36:48.000 Did you happen to catch, I know it's pretty difficult for people that are in the know, Oh, I gotta go.

02:36:58.000 Sorry.

02:36:59.000 Okay.

02:37:00.000 Thanks a lot there, Mark.

02:37:01.000 Let's go to Tim in New York.

02:37:03.000 Tim, welcome to Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:37:07.000 Well, thank you.

02:37:08.000 And as a first-time caller, it's wonderful to hear someone taking over for him that is of like mind and fights the fight like you do.

02:37:17.000 I want to tell you that all you people are empowering a lot of us.

02:37:21.000 I've made close to 800 copies of Alex's videos and gotten them out.

02:37:26.000 and uh... having a lot of fun doing that and uh... he has empowered me and uh... i actually have my own local saturday show from noon to one o'clock here on the sunshine radio network in rochester talking about getting out there and doing what we can do.

02:37:44.000 That's on the Sunshine Radio Network in Rochester.

02:37:47.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:37:48.000 Any station you'd like to give out?

02:37:50.000 13:10 a.m. and 15:90 a.m. 13:10 a.m. and that is at noon on Saturday and 15:90 a.m. noon on Saturday for Tim's program there in Rochester, New York area.

02:38:06.000 So if you're listening over there, give Tim a listen on Saturdays and then Saturday nights at midnight, exactly 12 hours later is Erskine on radio.

02:38:17.000 Erskine overnight.

02:38:18.000 So you'll enjoy that program.

02:38:20.000 Absolutely.

02:38:20.000 It's wonderful.

02:38:22.000 I'm worried about Alex because he hasn't called in.

02:38:25.000 Have you had any messages that he is safe?

02:38:30.000 Uh, excellent question.

02:38:32.000 We are trying to get in touch with Alex's command center in Texas right now.

02:38:37.000 As soon as we find out anything, we'll have it on the air, hopefully before we go off this hour.

02:38:41.000 Thank you so much, so much for the call, Tim, and thanks for making the copies of the Alex Jones videos, and thank you so much for Really taking the bull by the horns and doing your own program.

02:38:55.000 God bless you and may it be very, very successful in getting the word out.

02:38:58.000 Get a copy of Order Out of Chaos.

02:39:00.000 That's a fabulous book there, Tim.

02:39:03.000 Got them all.

02:39:04.000 Got the 9-11 in plain sight, which is another tremendous video.

02:39:09.000 Having a lot of good success with handing that one out, too.

02:39:13.000 Show wakes people up and you are part of the reason that 50% of the New Yorkers know what's going on about 9-11.

02:39:22.000 Let's go to Ken in Kansas City.

02:39:25.000 It's always good to have somebody giving the truth out, especially like our friend Tim is doing.

02:39:31.000 God bless you, Tim, for doing that.

02:39:33.000 Ken in Kansas City, you're on the Alex Jones Program.

02:39:35.000 Yeah, I appreciate you filling in for Alex, Erskine.

02:39:39.000 Thank you, sir.

02:39:40.000 It's an honor.

02:39:42.000 I've called in before and talked to Alex.

02:39:46.000 I had a couple of points I wanted to make.

02:39:50.000 You know, this man mentioned these girls over in, you know, they were sent over to Africa or whatever.

02:39:56.000 Right, so Nigeria from the homes here in America, right? 1.00

02:40:01.000 Yeah, the place that I worked before, that's been four or five years ago now, I was required, we did work with the European Union and ISO 9000.

02:40:14.000 And I had to send a personnel questionnaire and a job questionnaire to them when I worked there.

02:40:23.000 I've been on disability now for quite some time.

02:40:29.000 Also, with reference to the Republican Convention, I've got that all on tape if Alex needs it.

02:40:40.000 I put it on VCR.

02:40:44.000 I noticed that though they're talking, well they didn't mention anything about the New World Order on there.

02:40:53.000 Well of course not.

02:40:54.000 Pardon?

02:40:56.000 Of course not.

02:40:57.000 And they were bad mouthing Kerry. 0.90

02:41:00.000 They were talking about him going to the UN.

02:41:02.000 But I saw on a news broadcast and that was during this week.

02:41:10.000 Saw that Owen Powell was overtalking the European Union.

02:41:15.000 I don't doubt it.

02:41:16.000 Thanks a lot for the call, Ken.

02:41:18.000 Let's go to Art in Kansas City, or rather in Kansas, and one of the things that Ken was talking about is, sure, they're not going to talk about the New World Order.

02:41:28.000 Of course not!

02:41:29.000 It doesn't exist, don't you know?

02:41:31.000 The only person who talked about it was George Herbert Walker Bush.

02:41:34.000 He said, we have a New World Order.

02:41:36.000 He told you it's here, okay.

02:41:38.000 Enough said.

02:41:38.000 Doesn't have to beat you over the head with it.

02:41:40.000 Art, you're on the Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:41:43.000 Hi, Erskine.

02:41:45.000 Hi Art.

02:41:46.000 Speaking of the New World Order, there's a great little book called The Insiders by John McManus.

02:41:52.000 Absolutely.

02:41:53.000 It's a great book.

02:41:54.000 It really is.

02:41:55.000 It's got the latest list of all these insider creeps and the corporations who support them.

02:42:02.000 Absolutely.

02:42:03.000 You've got the corporations and the banksters and you've got the same people on the board of directors of all of these companies.

02:42:09.000 They're all intertwined.

02:42:11.000 It's very incestuous how you've got them all intertwined and intermarried into these groups, isn't it?

02:42:16.000 Well, yeah, but this, I mean, this lists the actual corporations.

02:42:19.000 So you know who you're buying stuff from is supporting them.

02:42:23.000 Sure that you are.

02:42:24.000 And there are very few places where they aren't supporting them when you're talking major corporations.

02:42:29.000 It's like Nolan and Mo and Moses was talking about.

02:42:33.000 Especially Moses was talking about it from Denmark.

02:42:36.000 Buy from the small local people who you know.

02:42:39.000 Yeah?

02:42:40.000 Okay, now here's my main point.

02:42:41.000 What worries me about this convention and all the melee in New York There's always a good little Nazi someplace willing to do this against their own citizens for a paycheck.

02:42:55.000 Sure.

02:42:57.000 Just the same as Hitler or anybody else. 0.98

02:43:02.000 Absolutely!

02:43:02.000 And as the one lady was talking about, if they come in with the new draft, then that is going to essentially beat the Brownshirts.

02:43:12.000 We're going to have them so indoctrinated, you won't be able to see straight.

02:43:16.000 I know it!

02:43:17.000 And it's local government, it's county, it's whatever, they all do it.

02:43:22.000 Whatever the paycheck covers.

02:43:25.000 But you know last night, That whole convention reminded me of Hitler and the Brownshirts. 0.93

02:43:30.000 I mean, did you see the looks on those people's faces?

02:43:35.000 Yes, yes I did.

02:43:36.000 They were mesmerized.

02:43:38.000 And they did everything except, uh, Zick Heil, didn't they?

02:43:42.000 If he had said that, they would have said that. 0.89

02:43:45.000 I know, it was disgusting.

02:43:48.000 Thanks for the call, Art, I appreciate it.

02:43:50.000 Let's go to Joyce.

02:43:51.000 Joyce, uh, I think you're in Texas, aren't you?

02:43:55.000 Hi, yes.

02:43:56.000 Hi, welcome to Alex Jones Program.

02:43:59.000 We're going to have to be real quick because we're close to the end of the hour.

02:44:02.000 Alright, what I have is real quick.

02:44:04.000 I'm calling from Houston, which is where those kids from Nigeria were from.

02:44:07.000 Oh, okay.

02:44:08.000 The previous caller.

02:44:09.000 It was boys and girls.

02:44:11.000 What happened with that, I've been following the story in the paper.

02:44:13.000 The mother wanted to take a job in Iraq for Kellogg Brown and Root.

02:44:18.000 She enrolled the seven children in boarding school in Nigeria.

02:44:26.000 He says he never got the money.

02:44:28.000 Long story short, the kids, the tuition ran out, the kids were kicked out of school, ended up in the orphanage.

02:44:33.000 A minister from San Antonio found them there and brought them back to the states.

02:44:38.000 But that was the information behind that story.

02:44:40.000 I appreciate the caller.

02:44:42.000 He's paying attention to these stories about kids.

02:44:44.000 Kids definitely need to be watched out for.

02:44:46.000 But I just wanted to give him a little bit of information.

02:44:48.000 You better believe it.

02:44:48.000 Pay attention to kids.

02:44:50.000 And thanks for the information on that.

02:44:53.000 And I am sure that That they'll be happy to know that it wasn't as nefarious as it may have sounded.

02:44:59.000 Let's go to... Yes.

02:45:02.000 Yeah, it's still a bad situation, but it's not quite as bad as it could have been.

02:45:06.000 You got it.

02:45:07.000 You got it.

02:45:08.000 Keep your eyes and ears open, though, but don't go off to extremes because sometimes the answers are not as complicated and sometimes they are not definitely as convoluted as you might think.

02:45:21.000 But I appreciate that.

02:45:22.000 Thanks for straightening that story out, Joyce.

02:45:24.000 That's wonderful.

02:45:25.000 That's the advantage of doing talk radio.

02:45:27.000 You get to hear a story and then someone else comes in and says, well, here's what really happened and here's the way it happened.

02:45:34.000 And that's great!

02:45:35.000 That is great!

02:45:36.000 That's what it's all about!

02:45:37.000 Thanks Joyce!

02:45:38.000 You're welcome!

02:45:39.000 All this is from the Houston Chronicle, so anyone can go to their site online and find this.

02:45:44.000 Thank you so much.

02:45:45.000 Let's go to Darren.

02:45:47.000 Darren in Colorado.

02:45:48.000 Yes Darren, you're on.

02:45:50.000 Thank you very much.

02:45:51.000 I have something real important I'd like to try to get across.

02:45:55.000 Okay.

02:45:57.000 Their goal is to send us into chaos.

02:46:01.000 Absolutely.

02:46:02.000 The way they can do that is, think of, you know, everything has a weakness.

02:46:07.000 And I found a weakness possibly with the Constitution.

02:46:10.000 I'd like to fill that hole so it's not a weakness anymore.

02:46:14.000 It gives us freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to defend that assembly with the Second Amendment, to challenge their authority in case we think they're taking yours and mine and everybody else's loved ones' future away from them.

02:46:26.000 Well, that challenges the whole government as a whole.

02:46:29.000 It's unjust because it includes the good and the bad together.

02:46:32.000 It's against the mother.

02:46:34.000 Her son is in the military.

02:46:35.000 He might be sent against that, that lives next door.

02:46:38.000 It's against the police officer down the street.

02:46:40.000 It's against the Congress.

02:46:43.000 It's against the mayor, the police chiefs, everybody.

02:46:47.000 So, when they have a thousand police out there, And you're one that doesn't agree.

02:46:53.000 You don't know whether the 999 others agree, so you keep quiet, grab your billy club, and do your work because you want your paycheck.

02:47:00.000 They haven't got a package to turn to.

02:47:03.000 So, if we change that, and work toward giving a refuge to these police officers in the message.

02:47:09.000 In other words, you don't say, the government's this, the government's that, we're challenging their authority.

02:47:14.000 Let's give these guys, work, put the whole message toward building them a refuge.

02:47:19.000 Our ATF, FBI, CIA can't go to work, protect their families at home, and they need that refuge.

02:47:23.000 They would support it.

02:47:25.000 The difference is this.

02:47:26.000 Under the Constitution, everybody in the government that would be sent against that refuge wants the public to sign it.

02:47:32.000 Change the whole message.

02:47:35.000 And say, let's build a refuge for each of these officers.

02:47:39.000 Or right up to the President, they might need the refuge too.

02:47:42.000 Congressmen, everybody.

02:47:44.000 Then everybody in the government wants you harmed, because when they go to work they want to know their family's safe at home, and who's better to do that than the neighbor who's been loving his next-door neighbors himself, doing the good deed, standing firm from their neighbor.

02:47:55.000 Then they can't send us into chaos because your message wasn't against the government, your message was for the good of the government.

02:48:02.000 And I'm, as I read the Constitution, Second Amendment, it is to protect us from the government that we're given the right to bear arms.

02:48:11.000 I want to thank you for the call and I think we've got just barely enough time.

02:48:15.000 Let's go again to Mark in Rhode Island and we'll get back and we'll talk to George in Pennsylvania.

02:48:20.000 Thank you for listening to Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:48:22.000 If we have any updates on Alex, we'll certainly get to it in the next five or ten minutes.

02:48:27.000 Thank you for listening.

02:48:28.000 This is Erskine.

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02:51:58.000 There is a war on for your mind, and by using your mind, that is the only way that you're going to defeat them.

02:52:06.000 As my friend Paul Joseph Watson says, in Order Out of Chaos, your brain is the most powerful muscle in your body.

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02:52:20.000 Either you're going to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything.

02:52:23.000 Let's go to Mark again, Rhode Island.

02:52:25.000 Very quick, Mark has got two other callers.

02:52:27.000 Thanks, Erskine.

02:52:28.000 I'm sorry I had to hang up quickly.

02:52:30.000 You know, there was a reference actually in the convention last night of what little I watched.

02:52:35.000 The phrase was, we will not be stopped.

02:52:39.000 And number two, I just want to thank God for all the women out there that do call on Alex to show.

02:52:44.000 I know, you know, these subjects are very, can be very frightening and scary and women in general tend to shy away from it.

02:52:50.000 I don't want to deal with it.

02:52:51.000 But I noticed there are a lot of women, young and old, that call up that are aware and that have woken up to all this.

02:52:58.000 And number three, Kirsten, I'd just like to say that there's so many Americans out there that really need to wake up.

02:53:07.000 And when we do wake up, we will be like a sleeping giant.

02:53:11.000 Maybe we can't stop this with God's help.

02:53:14.000 Absolutely, and with God's help.

02:53:15.000 And you've got people like our friend Tim up there in New York, who's on Rochester 1310 AM, 1590 AM on Saturdays.

02:53:23.000 He's got his own radio show going now.

02:53:25.000 He has made 800 copies of Alex's tapes.

02:53:28.000 This is what is going to count.

02:53:30.000 And if you believe that there's a final analysis, or even if you don't, I don't want to be standing up there and saying, well, you know, I tried to sort of get along and do everything pretty much right to just sort of go along and get along.

02:53:43.000 Yeah, that's what you want to say when the final day comes.

02:53:46.000 Let's go to George in Pennsylvania.

02:53:48.000 George, quick comment?

02:53:50.000 Yeah.

02:53:51.000 Hello?

02:53:52.000 Yes, you're on.

02:53:53.000 This is Alex Jones Radio Show.

02:53:55.000 You're on.

02:53:56.000 Yeah.

02:53:56.000 I heard you mention something about two states were thinking about backing out of the Union.

02:54:00.000 Which two were those again?

02:54:01.000 Montana and Arizona, they've got things going before the legislature of both of those states.

02:54:06.000 You know, it was tried by, like, the entire South.

02:54:09.000 I don't know where that's going to go, but at least there are two states that have resolutions, at least before their legislature, that if they take away guns, if they try to do away with the Constitution, that these two states want out.

02:54:26.000 Things are real interesting here.

02:54:28.000 How long do you think it'll be before it gets real interesting?

02:54:31.000 Oh, I think it's interesting every single day, George.

02:54:35.000 Every single day.

02:54:37.000 More and more things that you're seeing.

02:54:39.000 More and more reports.

02:54:40.000 I mean, you had the report of the lady who was taken off of the cruise ship in shackles because a year before she didn't pay a $50 fine for leaving marshmallows at Yellowstone Park.

02:54:53.000 Took her off a cruise ship in shackles for that. 1.00

02:54:56.000 What are we coming to in this nation?

02:54:59.000 For goodness sake, what are we coming to when they take away... I'm looking at... left a bag of marshmallows and what are you going to have?

02:55:07.000 Like from the movie, the Ghostbusters?

02:55:09.000 The Marshmallow Man rise up?

02:55:11.000 Is that what they're scared of next?

02:55:13.000 Who knows?

02:55:14.000 So that's what's happening.

02:55:16.000 Yes, I heard Dave and Joyce mention Buffalo, New York had a big concentration camp up there.

02:55:22.000 One of them FEMA camps and they mentioned a list of them and I was wondering if You can find out that list from them.

02:55:28.000 Repeat that on the show, if you could.

02:55:31.000 Well, I'm not sure about that.

02:55:32.000 I've heard that there are over 200 secret camps, and I know that the figure that was done, there is $3 billion for the CLIF.

02:55:42.000 That's the Civilian Labor Force that has gone in, and these are essentially concentration camps with a red and blue list.

02:55:54.000 Yes.

02:55:54.000 Newswatchmagazine.org has a thing posted on the internet where they're showing UN vehicles coming in through Fort Beaumont, Texas.

02:56:02.000 Okay.

02:56:03.000 Thank you, George.

02:56:04.000 Thanks for the call.

02:56:05.000 Listen to Erskine overnight, please.

02:56:06.000 This is Saturday night at 9 o'clock Pacific, midnight, East Coast.

02:56:11.000 Thank you.

02:56:12.000 Thank you for great listeners.

02:56:14.000 And thank you, Alex, for letting me sit in.

Alex Jones Show - September 03, 2004

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