Alex Jones Show - 20040915_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 15th day of September 2004.

00:00:33.000 or On this live Wednesday edition, thank you for joining us.

00:00:38.000 We have a surprise guest joining us in the second hour, and then in the third hour, General Benton K. Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, will be on with us.

00:00:52.000 Talk about the first guest.

00:00:54.000 Ivan could submerge New Orleans.

00:00:58.000 The Houston Chronicle is reporting 50,000 could drown.

00:01:04.000 New Orleans could cease to exist.

00:01:05.000 Those are quotes out of the Houston Chronicle.

00:01:08.000 More than 1.2 million people in metropolitan New Orleans were warned to get out yesterday as a 140 mile an hour hurricane, Ivan the Terrible, turned towards the Gulf Coast, threatened to submerge The below sea level city during what could be the most disastrous storm to hit in nearly 40 years.

00:01:30.000 Paul Watson put this nice little comment at the top of it.

00:01:33.000 Says, this is an interesting primer for future government scaremongering tactics where people are told that asteroids are going to strike.

00:01:41.000 The fact that we're in 2004 and New Orleans flood defenses haven't been significantly bolstered to handle this sort of disaster makes even George Bush look confident in comparison.

00:01:55.000 Inserting 9-11.

00:01:56.000 And I agree, I mean New Orleans is below sea level.

00:02:01.000 They know that anytime there's any large-scale rains, they flood.

00:02:07.000 And here is this hurricane going 140 miles an hour about to start...

00:02:14.000 Big Brother.

00:02:20.000 Mainstream Media.

00:02:22.000 Government cover-ups.

00:02:24.000 You want answers?

00:02:25.000 Well, so does he.

00:02:26.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:02:31.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:02:38.000 Alright, this Dr. Thomas Barnett is this Naval War College strategist, and he openly says that the military works for the big corporations, it's part of a global government, They're going to take over the planet.

00:02:51.000 Russia and China are big buddies.

00:02:52.000 He chastised the Pentagon for not wanting to work with communist China.

00:02:57.000 They're not communists.

00:02:58.000 They're wonderful, basically.

00:03:00.000 And, again, this happens.

00:03:02.000 Michelle Malkin writes a book, Independent Internment Camps.

00:03:05.000 Finds out who I am.

00:03:06.000 Won't come on.

00:03:07.000 Won't defend their ideas.

00:03:09.000 It's the same thing with Mr. Barnett.

00:03:11.000 We set it up days ago.

00:03:12.000 Confirmed today.

00:03:13.000 He went and looked up who we are.

00:03:15.000 And told Scott, running the show, no.

00:03:18.000 What was the quote, Scott?

00:03:20.000 Why don't we bring Scott up here.

00:03:21.000 Scott, real quick.

00:03:23.000 Did he say the site is too abhorrent?

00:03:25.000 Yeah, he said he found things abhorrent on the website and didn't want to do it.

00:03:29.000 He found things abhorrent and then you said, well, just please come on for a few minutes and what did he do?

00:03:33.000 Uh, he just said no.

00:03:34.000 So, he pretty much refused to come on with you today.

00:03:37.000 And you said he hung up on you?

00:03:38.000 Yeah, he, well, he wasn't rudely, but he said, I'm not going to come on and hung up.

00:03:43.000 Yeah, so, this is the guy.

00:03:46.000 Okay, and he talks about Wall Street just loves me, and the Wall Street people understand this new rule set, and you know, we're going to have this global army, and it was open new world order.

00:03:58.000 So we'll just talk about Mr. Barnett now.

00:04:00.000 For those of you that saw him on C-SPAN, it's aired several times, and for those that witnessed this, we even got a tape of it.

00:04:08.000 It's not been loaded into the computer, so we can't play it.

00:04:10.000 I should have done that.

00:04:10.000 I wanted to have you hear from him.

00:04:12.000 They will not defend their ideas.

00:04:14.000 It's got to be in a controlled area.

00:04:16.000 General Parton is going to be coming on to talk about these ideas and what he thinks of it.

00:04:21.000 He warned of this new map, this model, decades ago.

00:04:25.000 And he's a real expert.

00:04:28.000 And so we'll see, instead of getting General Parton on in the third hour, we'll see if we can get him on a little bit earlier.

00:04:32.000 I know he was studying up on Mr. Barnett earlier this morning.

00:04:37.000 But he's aware of this whole move in the Pentagon.

00:04:39.000 So we'll get General Benton K. Parton on the show and go over Mr. Barnett.

00:04:46.000 But just amazing.

00:04:50.000 Have you gotten a hold of Parton, Scott?

00:04:54.000 Good.

00:04:55.000 Tell him I want to talk to him during the break.

00:04:57.000 Just try to keep him there a few minutes and I want to come back and talk to him.

00:05:00.000 I mean, all we want are these globalists.

00:05:02.000 And that's what the guy said.

00:05:03.000 It's part of globalism.

00:05:05.000 We have these spreadsheets of globalism taking over the planet.

00:05:08.000 It was frightening stuff.

00:05:09.000 What we'll do is we'll have listeners who saw this.

00:05:11.000 I know a lot of you have called in about it.

00:05:12.000 I saw it too.

00:05:14.000 Call in and discuss this.

00:05:16.000 The end of posse comitatus, all of it.

00:05:19.000 And we'll go over it with General Benton K. Parton, who's been warning of this exact rule change, as they call it, with With the Pentagon and how he and himself and many others have been warning people within the Pentagon.

00:05:38.000 But it's just outrageous that globalists will not come on and defend their ideas.

00:05:43.000 They're all happy to do radio interviews until they find out that we're aware of the New World Order.

00:05:48.000 That we're aware of this merger between our military, our government, with the Soviet Russians, which is still what they are, putting the Red Stars back on their vehicles. 0.56

00:05:58.000 When they find out that we're against the merger with Communist China, when they find out that we're not for this New World Order model, they run!

00:06:07.000 They don't jog away from us, they run away from us.

00:06:12.000 So we were going to talk about the Pentagon's new map, the book, A Future Worth Creating, and you can read the pre-introduction storyboard, the director's commentary, you can go over

00:06:29.000 the entire system they're building on his website thomas p m barnett dot com you can go look at what i witnessed on c-span and uh... wall street he admits is right behind him and loves his idea and he says the pentagon works for wall street works for the big banks it's just it's just everything we've already known right out the open but he chastised the pentagon when i was watching this on c-span

00:06:55.000 Auditorium full of brass saying, you need to know that China's our friend and they're going to aid us.

00:07:00.000 Now Russia's merging with NATO.

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00:10:20.000 Okay, I was going to have this Pentagon strategist, war thinker, guru on the show, Thomas P.M. guru on the show, Thomas P.M.

00:10:39.000 Barnett, and then he said, I'm not coming on to the folks running the show, so I called him during the break, and he began cussing at me right off the bat, uh, telling me, you know, well I hope you sleep good at night, uh, you know, saying the CIA could have been behind Nick Berg.

00:10:56.000 That's been mainstream news, by the way.

00:10:58.000 Uh, yelling at me about saying the government had prior knowledge of 9-11.

00:11:02.000 Well, half of New Yorkers think that, so I guess they're evil too.

00:11:05.000 I bet they sleep at night good.

00:11:06.000 Actually, they probably don't, thinking there's about to be another attack.

00:11:10.000 And I'm sitting there, and this guy is just vicious!

00:11:14.000 And I said, what about PNAC documents?

00:11:15.000 What about Operation Northwood?

00:11:17.000 And he just wouldn't talk, started going, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

00:11:20.000 I mean, it was amazing.

00:11:21.000 And I said, come on and defend your ideas.

00:11:22.000 And he said, he said, I wouldn't dignify a show like yours.

00:11:28.000 And so, we're going to research this guy even more, and we're going to expose some of the stuff that's going on.

00:11:33.000 I mean, I watched this guy on C-SPAN last weekend, or actually a couple weekends ago, right when I got back from New York City.

00:11:42.000 And he had these models of globalization, and China's our friend, and Russia's our friend, and we're going to merge together and fight the evil terrorist, and here's the new map, and we're going to go into Africa and the Middle East and take it over, and You know, all of this, and we work for the big corporations, the Pentagon works for the big corporations, that's who we work for, and Wall Street just loves me, and just so arrogant and pompous.

00:12:07.000 I know a lot of you saw that.

00:12:09.000 It's hard to believe unless you witnessed it for yourself.

00:12:14.000 But General Parton, it was going to come on in the third hour, now he says he'll come on at the bottom of this hour, a little bit early, because I wanted him to come on after Mr. Barnett, because everything General Parton has talked about, and what the Pentagon was going to shift into, and what was going to happen, is now happening.

00:12:30.000 He wrote about this decades ago.

00:12:33.000 Decades ago, and of course he's a brigadier general, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, a veteran of multiple wars, and just a great patriot.

00:12:44.000 And now we hear about Russia openly going to merge with NATO, NATO now with a global role, Russia saying it will have preemptive strikes around the planet, all of this, and I got a stack of mainstream articles about Russian intelligence involvement in the attacks on the school.

00:13:00.000 We know the Russian government carried out the bombings in 1999 to get Putin into office as FSB was caught planting bombs in the fourth building.

00:13:07.000 I mean, all we're doing is covering the facts.

00:13:10.000 And there's people that are really upset out there about this.

00:13:13.000 But this Barnett guy had been on my website.

00:13:16.000 He was describing a bunch of stuff off of it and was very upset.

00:13:21.000 Livid.

00:13:23.000 And just amazing.

00:13:27.000 But we're not going to stop, folks.

00:13:30.000 He finally just started screaming when I said, we're going to win.

00:13:33.000 The truth will come out.

00:13:34.000 We're going to win.

00:13:35.000 We're going to prevail.

00:13:36.000 We're the real Patriots.

00:13:37.000 And he just started screaming and hung up the telephone.

00:13:42.000 So, I don't know what to say about it.

00:13:45.000 Just incredible.

00:13:49.000 It was actually kind of scary.

00:13:50.000 I mean, I was being pretty nice to him until the end, and I just said, well, we're going to win, sir.

00:13:54.000 We're going to win.

00:13:55.000 We're going to defend this country.

00:14:00.000 I'm crazy, because I think the government had prior knowledge and was involved, and I started trying to go, well, what about the official government plans?

00:14:05.000 Northwoods?

00:14:06.000 PNAC?

00:14:08.000 And he just, but within 10 seconds of talking to him, he goes, listen, I think what you do is beep, beep, beep.

00:14:15.000 And I think blah, blah, blah.

00:14:16.000 I mean, he's just so angry.

00:14:19.000 So we're in a fight, folks.

00:14:20.000 I mean, I couldn't believe what I was watching this guy teach all these military brats.

00:14:25.000 I mean, it was the whole New World Order plan just right out in the open.

00:14:30.000 I hope none of you spend money on his book.

00:14:32.000 I hope none of you will support this guy, but we do have to analyze him.

00:14:35.000 But he's all part of this entire neocon gaggle that is up there in the Pentagon now.

00:14:42.000 Very, very serious situation.

00:14:45.000 But it must feel good, you know, just to be part of the establishment and to serve it and to, you know, think you've got everything set and you're on the winning side.

00:14:53.000 Although the American people are going to win and the New World Order will be defeated. 0.91

00:14:58.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Gil in Texas.

00:15:01.000 Gil, go ahead.

00:15:02.000 Yes.

00:15:02.000 Do you think there's a real possibility that the gentleman you had scheduled, maybe his handlers got to him and said, look, I'll make an offer you can't refuse.

00:15:11.000 You go on that show and we'll demote you, or even worse, probably take him out.

00:15:16.000 I don't know that.

00:15:17.000 No, I don't think so.

00:15:18.000 They don't do that with their energetic, happy servants.

00:15:22.000 The guy went on my website right before he was about to go on air with us.

00:15:26.000 And I'm sure, we didn't have his name listed, we said General Benton K. Parton will come on to talk about the Pentagon's new map.

00:15:32.000 And so I think maybe he thought Parton was coming on while he was going to be on.

00:15:36.000 That wasn't my intention.

00:15:38.000 I was going to have Parton maybe go on the line a little bit early at the end of the interview to hear what the guy said and maybe bring him up, but not in the first part of the interview.

00:15:45.000 The scheduling was for the third hour when Mr. Barnett would be gone, but I don't know.

00:15:51.000 Did you see that guy on C-SPAN?

00:15:53.000 No, I haven't had the pleasure of doing that.

00:15:55.000 I do listen to your show and I have a copy of 9-1-1, The Road to Tyranny.

00:16:00.000 I'm in the southeast Texas area, a heavy industrial oil area.

00:16:07.000 One of the slogans where we oil the world.

00:16:09.000 I have a question for you.

00:16:11.000 Lately, they have been harassed.

00:16:13.000 There was a ship that was ran into.

00:16:15.000 The Coast Guard had to come out.

00:16:16.000 And in a rash, they've been closing down highways.

00:16:20.000 And it seems like every week or every other week, there's some kind of incident where they have to shut the roads down.

00:16:27.000 Do you think it's possible that the industrial complex has gotten with the The military and the police department, and this is a good way for them to start testing.

00:16:36.000 I know that they have done thousands and thousands of drills all over the country.

00:16:42.000 A lot of times they don't even tell us their drills until later when we force them to.

00:16:46.000 Fake nuclear spills, all types of stuff.

00:16:48.000 And yes, they're testing the martial law systems, preparing and getting everybody ready for it.

00:16:54.000 Because every other week around here, every two or three weeks around here, there's some kind of road closure here in my area.

00:17:01.000 Or there's a chemical spill, or there's been a ship that's been ran into and they have to close down the waterways because they have to clean up the spill.

00:17:08.000 Well, I mean a lot of that's always happening down by Houston.

00:17:12.000 I mean, a lot of that's probably real, but have they had drills down there?

00:17:16.000 Yes, they have had admitted drills.

00:17:17.000 So it's kind of a gray area as to where this is staged or whether this is actually happening.

00:17:22.000 Maybe they are actually, is it possible they actually do these things?

00:17:27.000 You mentioned problem, reaction, solution.

00:17:29.000 Is it possible to kind of test the system?

00:17:33.000 Let's say, well, okay, let's have some kind of mock thing happen.

00:17:35.000 Let's actually do something.

00:17:39.000 I don't know.

00:17:40.000 I don't want to speculate on that.

00:17:41.000 I mean, the Houston Chronicle has said Houston's a big target of Al-Siada and CIArabs.

00:17:49.000 But would the chemical industry and the military industrial complex go that far as to kind of shoot their own self in the foot to test their military system?

00:17:58.000 Well, by announcing all the time that the refineries are breaking down and out of date and there's not enough oil, they're able to jack up the prices.

00:18:05.000 Thanks for the call.

00:18:06.000 So we know that's going on, Gil.

00:18:08.000 Interesting questions.

00:18:10.000 Let's talk to Bob calling from the USA.

00:18:13.000 Bob, you're on the air.

00:18:14.000 Go ahead.

00:18:15.000 Long time listener.

00:18:17.000 Always tell folks to They don't call it Divide and Conquer for nothing, so Mexican folks, black folks, Jewish folks, everybody in neighborhoods need to be good friends with everybody in case something's happening.

00:18:33.000 We got water, everybody's got gardens, we've got emergency plans, and I want to see commercials where we see troops

00:18:43.000 running towards something they're saying someone's yelling all right let's get these libraries built let's get these schools open let's get these gardens made all right let's get this water purified for people let's get everybody burn your water filters let's go doing stuff like that instead of always destroying and one of the secrets the so-called secrets of the esoteric secret societies is that

00:19:09.000 They must become this thing most evil so that this great good will be realized.

00:19:15.000 And through creating the most restrictive Orwellian society, microchips everything, that the human revolution against that will usher in this golden age.

00:19:27.000 And I say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

00:19:31.000 Or, don't skin cats.

00:19:34.000 What are you doing skin and caps for?

00:19:37.000 Alright, but thanks for the call.

00:19:38.000 Look, let me just say this.

00:19:41.000 Okay?

00:19:43.000 The globalists at the top rationalize the tyranny they're setting up global government like this. 0.82

00:19:49.000 And it's in their own publications.

00:19:51.000 It's public.

00:19:53.000 They say there's a threat of level four bioweapons.

00:19:57.000 There's a threat of nuclear proliferation.

00:20:00.000 If we don't have a global government, countries will independently develop these and destroy the planet.

00:20:05.000 We've got to be more evil than the most evil to defeat them.

00:20:08.000 The truth must be guarded by a bodyguard of lies.

00:20:12.000 You know, all of these statements.

00:20:13.000 And that's how they fool well-meaning, idealistic people into serving this system.

00:20:20.000 I mean, a lot of these are well-meaning, good folks.

00:20:23.000 They think they're doing good.

00:20:24.000 I mean, that's probably what Mr. Barnett is.

00:20:27.000 Okay, well, you know, with the Pentagon's new global government map, I mean, that's what it is.

00:20:32.000 And so that's their excuse.

00:20:33.000 But meanwhile, we catch the globalists funding and training the terrorists, proliferating the weapons, really creating crises.

00:20:42.000 And that's their maxim, is order out of chaos.

00:20:45.000 And yes, at the very highest levels of this whole skull and bones, esoteric, occult, mumbo-jumbo, That's their excuse, is we've got to bring in total evil to have the balance in the force, you know, kind of like the George Lucas line, between the dark side and the light.

00:21:00.000 And by bringing in this great evil, then, you know, it will create this great movement of goodness against it, and then we'll finally have the Golden Age!

00:21:08.000 And it's very, very dangerous and it's a rationalization. 0.97

00:21:12.000 Really what they operate under is social Darwin views, or social Darwinist views, of we're the best, we're the smartest, that's why we're in control, it's our right to rule over these dumb people. 0.94

00:21:22.000 And then they do everything they can to further dumb us down and go, oh look, see they're dumb, we've got to take care of them, we've got to be the social engineers. 0.69

00:21:30.000 And so that's really what they're doing. 0.98

00:21:33.000 All right, we'll come back and get to a bunch of other callers.

00:21:37.000 Then we have General Benton K. Harden joining us to talk about his warnings of how they would try to shift the Pentagon into serving and working with what I call the Neo-Soviets in Russia and the commies in China. 0.89

00:21:53.000 We've had the professors call in from China on the show where they're listening, trying to convince us how good China is.

00:22:00.000 We're not going to buy that.

00:22:01.000 China is the New World Order model because of the tyranny there and the dehumanization. 0.99

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00:26:18.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:26:24.000 Let's continue with your calls.

00:26:26.000 And we've got General Parton coming on.

00:26:29.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Mike in Florida.

00:26:34.000 Mike, you're on the air.

00:26:35.000 Welcome.

00:26:38.000 Go ahead, Mike.

00:26:39.000 You're on the air.

00:26:40.000 How are you?

00:26:40.000 Hi, Alex.

00:26:41.000 Good.

00:26:41.000 Alex, I'm trying to get some information on a person by the name of Victor Ashe.

00:26:47.000 Mayor of Victor Ashe, Nashville, Tennessee.

00:26:51.000 Yeah, sounds to me like you've already got the information.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, well, I read something on the internet.

00:26:57.000 Sherman Skolnick, who's an investigative journalist, wrote an article about Victor Ashe.

00:27:07.000 I said, you know, I betcha if anyone would know, Alex Jones would probably know.

00:27:13.000 I don't know if what Kitty Kelly and Mr. Skolnick say is true, but they allege that him and Bush are special friends and I don't know if that's true, sir, and that's why I don't really get into it.

00:27:27.000 Alright, well I'll do some more research and hopefully we can learn a little bit more.

00:27:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:27:33.000 Hey, thank you.

00:27:33.000 I appreciate the call, Mike.

00:27:35.000 Jim in Ohio.

00:27:36.000 Jim, you're on the air.

00:27:37.000 Welcome.

00:27:38.000 Alex Jones, Rebel Without a Pause.

00:27:40.000 How are you?

00:27:41.000 Good, sir.

00:27:42.000 Hey, with all the talk of numerology regarding the New World Order and that and 9-1-1, I have kind of a theory I just wanted to run past you.

00:27:42.000 Good.

00:27:51.000 I don't know what the satanic symbolism of it would be, but obviously in this country 9-1-1 is an easy one to remember in the emergency.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, it's very archetypal, yes.

00:28:02.000 Well, and you wonder, too, on that day, as clear of a day as it was, that what if that day would have been cloudy and overcast?

00:28:10.000 It kind of lends credence that that had to be the day to stick in people's minds, and it just seems to add credence to the remote control possibilities of flying the planes into the towers in the Pentagon.

00:28:23.000 Just kind of wondered what your thought was on that.

00:28:27.000 I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

00:28:30.000 Well, had these pilots, the terrorists supposedly, had the minimal capabilities to fly a plane.

00:28:39.000 They needed the visual to come into New York and they had to pick an extremely clear day to pick up those towers from a distance.

00:28:47.000 Now if it was an overcast day with low cloud cover and they were these amateur pilots supposedly, those people behind crashing The planes into the tower in the Pentagon weren't going to leave it up to their abilities to physically fly the planes in an overcast setting.

00:29:06.000 That date was picked beforehand.

00:29:09.000 Well, that's an interesting point.

00:29:10.000 I just go off the fact that on that morning, the CIA was running an exact drill of planes being flown into those structures, just magically by accident. 0.90

00:29:21.000 Well, that's ridiculous.

00:29:22.000 And then we have NORAD standing down, and all these other points, and bin Laden's being flown out of the country.

00:29:27.000 Then we have our internal sources, Stanley Hilton and others have deposed.

00:29:32.000 These high-level military officers and others.

00:29:34.000 We have FBI agents saying we were told to back off the Bin Laden's W1999.

00:29:39.000 That's really the meat-and-potatoes proof we've got.

00:29:43.000 Well, and the other part of it, too, is everything that I've read from real pilots, you know, saying that the aerobatics that these guys had to go through to bring these planes in, especially into the Pentagon, and hit that thing the way that they did, especially on final approach, You know, experienced pilots with 25 years experience wouldn't be able to do that.

00:30:04.000 Well, the quotes I've seen is 9 out of 10 times they wouldn't be able to do the Pentagon Maneuver.

00:30:08.000 Correct.

00:30:10.000 Just my thought.

00:30:11.000 No, it's all points that have to be made.

00:30:14.000 Their official story is impossible.

00:30:15.000 It's the wildest conspiracy theory of them all.

00:30:18.000 Thank you, Jim.

00:30:20.000 Who's up next here?

00:30:23.000 Mary in Colorado.

00:30:24.000 You're on the air.

00:30:25.000 Go ahead.

00:30:25.000 Thanks for holding.

00:30:26.000 Good morning.

00:30:27.000 Well, that Bush oil outfit, they have to go.

00:30:30.000 Condoleezza didn't do her job. 1.00

00:30:32.000 She fell down on the job. 0.72

00:30:33.000 And Bush didn't do his job.

00:30:35.000 And they're just... You can't trust them.

00:30:38.000 And another thing that scares me is this big oil pipeline that is being run from Abu Dhabi, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong, into Georgia.

00:30:48.000 That's where Russia used to be. 0.96

00:30:51.000 And then into Turkey.

00:30:53.000 And we have both Russian, we have a Russian station and an American station.

00:30:58.000 Our soldiers and marines are stationed, our military is stationed in Georgia and so is the Russian military.

00:31:06.000 Well they have said that we're going to be merging in these countries.

00:31:09.000 We're going to invade all these countries together with our new friend Russia. 1.00

00:31:13.000 They're helping us.

00:31:15.000 Well, Russia's never been a friend of ours. 0.99

00:31:19.000 I don't think they can be trusted across the street.

00:31:22.000 And I'm looking at history, and I think if you want to know the truth, I appreciated what President Clinton put in his book.

00:31:33.000 I believe him.

00:31:34.000 I trust him.

00:31:35.000 I trust the Democrats.

00:31:38.000 So anyway, I want that Bush outfit out of there.

00:31:41.000 They're messing with trouble.

00:31:42.000 They aren't up to that job, okay?

00:31:44.000 Alright, thanks for the call, uh, Mary.

00:31:47.000 Uh, look.

00:31:49.000 They all work for the same bosses.

00:31:51.000 It's the same policies.

00:31:53.000 Gary's for the war.

00:31:55.000 Gary's for all of it.

00:31:56.000 And see, the conservatives hate the liberals.

00:31:58.000 The liberals hate the conservatives.

00:31:59.000 And that's how they've got us captured.

00:32:01.000 We need to get outside that false box.

00:32:05.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:35:28.000 Mission impossible!

00:35:29.000 Defeat the globalists!

00:35:31.000 Takeover!

00:35:33.000 People running this country and running the planet created the communists, the Nazis. 0.96

00:35:38.000 They create the centralized systems as Professor Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, admitted in his own 900-page book, Tragedy and Hope.

00:35:45.000 They have set up their new world order.

00:35:48.000 It is now upon us.

00:35:49.000 In a few minutes we're going to go to General Benton K. Parton.

00:35:52.000 Brigadier General.

00:35:53.000 Retired.

00:35:54.000 We've had him on the broadcast many times.

00:35:56.000 Haven't had him on in a long time.

00:35:58.000 It's time to have him back.

00:35:59.000 I remember I first interviewed him, I don't know, five or six years ago.

00:36:05.000 And he always stressed, look, the Pentagon's going to come out with a plan, there's people pushing it, that China and Russia are friends, that they're not a threat, that we're going to have to work together to go into all these countries.

00:36:16.000 And now they're openly saying that.

00:36:18.000 We were going to have Thomas Barnett on, the Pentagon's new map.

00:36:21.000 He took one look at my website and I called him up and said, why aren't you coming on?

00:36:26.000 He got really upset.

00:36:27.000 I already talked about that and began being very profane with me.

00:36:32.000 I've never experienced that before.

00:36:35.000 But we're going to talk about General Parton.

00:36:38.000 He hasn't seen Barnett's big presentation I watched on C-SPAN a few weeks ago to the Pentagon.

00:36:44.000 He's from the Naval War College.

00:36:46.000 But everything that Parton has talked about in the past and written about, written papers for the Pentagon on, is exactly what I was watching.

00:36:53.000 This guy was chastising the brass for still thinking that China is a threat.

00:36:57.000 I mean, it was amazing.

00:36:59.000 So that's just some of what we'll talk about.

00:37:01.000 I mean, it was terrifying.

00:37:03.000 Literally, I sat there Just, just, just shocked to watch it.

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00:38:36.000 Now, I want to read this before we go to General Parton, who I appreciate holding.

00:38:39.000 This is from Professor Quigley's 1966 book, Tragedy and Hope.

00:38:46.000 There does exist and has existed for a generation an international network which operates to some extent in the way the Radical Right believes the Communist Act.

00:38:54.000 In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Roundtable Groups, CFR, Tribunal Commission, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists or any other groups and frequently does so.

00:39:04.000 I know of their operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early sixties to examine its papers and secret records.

00:39:13.000 I have no aversion to it or most of its aims, and have, for much of my life, been close to it and many of its instruments.

00:39:19.000 I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies, but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known, Professor Carl Quigley, in his book, Tragedy and Hope.

00:39:34.000 In his first State of the Union, Bill Clinton said, I owe it all to this man, he's my mentor, the head of Political Science Department at Georgetown University.

00:39:42.000 Now, Again, in the final model of what the Communists said they would do, part of their program, as General Parton has laid it out, and as my own research has shown, again, this is all controlled by big financial interests that want to use Communist terror to take over countries.

00:40:00.000 Now they call it, you know, globalism.

00:40:02.000 They have different names for it.

00:40:04.000 Their plan is to take over every country in the world, and they're going to use the threat of terrorism to do it, and they are doing it right now.

00:40:13.000 And it is horrible to watch it happening, to watch Russia going into NATO, to watch NATO going global, to watch all this develop.

00:40:21.000 And the real expert on this is General Partin, joining us a little bit early on the show today.

00:40:25.000 We're honored to have him.

00:40:27.000 General, good to have you on.

00:40:28.000 My pleasure being on your show again, Alex.

00:40:31.000 Thank you.

00:40:32.000 I know you're not too familiar with Barnett himself, you've done some research, but this whole group in the Pentagon that is You know, saying China and Russia are good buddies, and shifting us into this new model, saying China isn't communist, chastising the true conservatives in the Pentagon.

00:40:51.000 Can you give us the real map of the world, General?

00:40:55.000 Look, I haven't written much of Barnett's paper, but you don't have to get into but a few hundred words before you can see that he's mouthing The global program that the communist world laid out back after World War II.

00:41:13.000 Excuse me, after World War I. Now look, Alex, I ran into the same sort of thing, gosh, 30, 40 years ago when I was at the War College myself.

00:41:25.000 I had turned out a book on the Sino-Soviet split.

00:41:28.000 And I did the first-class operations research kind of techniques, and I proved without question the sign of the Soviet split was one of the highest payoff operations that the Soviet Union ever got into.

00:41:40.000 And Anatoly Golitsyn, 17 years later, came out with a book, New Lives for All, and he said the sign of the Soviet split was a strategic disinformation program.

00:41:51.000 And then 27 years after I did my book, he wrote this book, The Sino- what was it?

00:42:00.000 Perestroika Deception! 0.67

00:42:02.000 And he said, not only was it the key dis- it was the key disinformation program on which all other disinformation programs depended.

00:42:10.000 It was rather interesting at that time, you know, if you'd done a dissertation or thesis, you didn't have to do another one at the War College.

00:42:18.000 And so I did one on this Sino-Soviet split thing.

00:42:22.000 And it was, that's almost a 200 book, extensively documented.

00:42:26.000 And I tried to, my faculty advisor wanted to distribute it very extensively.

00:42:31.000 Well, the little group, the little think tank groups like you have down at the War College, at the Naval War College, they had one guy in that group who was a propagandist for the sign of the Soviet Spring.

00:42:42.000 So it didn't get distributed, but you know, three or four copies went out.

00:42:45.000 You can get a copy of the the Library of Maxwell, you can get a copy from the Air Force Academy Library, but there's very few that were published.

00:42:52.000 I got out several hundred copies.

00:42:54.000 But at the same time, I did a paper on, a statistical paper.

00:42:59.000 You had to write two articles for publication, and that was dealing with, was really an extension of wall sequential sampling theory.

00:43:09.000 No one on earth in the Air Force should be interested in that if they weren't in quality control or sequential testing of expensive items.

00:43:17.000 But my gosh, that thing was distributed in dozens all over the place.

00:43:21.000 And one guy in there, when my faculty advisor wanted him to print it in the annual, the quarterly publication that came out of the War College, They said, well, we were planning to publish an article to the contrary thesis of the legitimacy and irreversibility of the sign of service.

00:43:39.000 So, one guy was able to turn things around to keep that information from getting out, but Glitzen, who was in the Soviet Union, trained in the Soviet Union, when he was posted to Finland, he defected to the United States, and you know, he served as an advisor to the CIA for a long time.

00:43:55.000 But, it just shows you that Some of these think tanks and people out there get way off on the wrong foot.

00:44:04.000 The seminal document on terrorism to this day.

00:44:08.000 The seminal document was a document written by Leon Trotsky when he was head of the Soviet military in 1922.

00:44:16.000 That's the basic document on terrorism.

00:44:19.000 That's how the Soviets have operated and are still operating. 0.99

00:44:23.000 Last year they put the Red Stars back on their uniforms and back on their tanks and helicopters.

00:44:28.000 And they have never taken the USSR logo off their media headings.

00:44:34.000 They've never taken it off.

00:44:35.000 But anyway, the Sino-Soviet split was a strategic disinformation program and it was one of the highest payoffs Well, let me stop you. 0.79

00:44:48.000 You're using all these technical terms.

00:44:50.000 Brigadier General, former head of Air Force Weapons Development.

00:44:53.000 General, we need to be specific with listeners, even with myself, with these complex terms and issues that are whole areas of study and research.

00:45:01.000 I mean, every word you're using is a four-year degree.

00:45:04.000 I don't need to go into this.

00:45:05.000 I'm sitting here for two hours, two weekends ago, watching this Thomas Barnett guy, word for word, say everything you've said, but flipping it around and saying it's good.

00:45:16.000 China's not communist.

00:45:17.000 Chastising the room full of brass.

00:45:20.000 Russia's our friend.

00:45:22.000 We're going to fight terror together.

00:45:24.000 We work for the big global corporations.

00:45:26.000 Wall Street loves this plan.

00:45:28.000 We've got new rule sets for globalism.

00:45:32.000 China and Russia are our buddies.

00:45:33.000 We're going to go into the whole planet with them. 0.83

00:45:36.000 All of this, and I'm watching this with my mouth hanging open, Can you speak specifically, because a lot of these guys, it showed the brass, they were nodding and loving it.

00:45:47.000 Some looked like they were about to have a heart attack watching this guy, but this is the dominant model that Bush and Rumsfeld and Kerry and all of them are pushing and promoting.

00:45:59.000 Well, irrespective of who's pushing what, let me just give you the facts, and these facts are very predictable.

00:46:06.000 But please put it in layman's terms.

00:46:08.000 Give us the real world map of what's happening.

00:46:11.000 Well, let me give you just a quick outline, and I've been using this chart for the last ten years around, and discussing the subject, the very subject you're talking about.

00:46:21.000 And I go right back to the 1928 program, and when the Communist International, the third international, it wasn't the first, it wasn't the second, it was the third international, it was the Lenin International, was set up in 1919.

00:46:36.000 They set up a think tank group of their best and brightest from around the world, To come up with what they call the program of the Third International, designed to transform every square inch of the world into this New World Order.

00:46:51.000 Every square inch of the world.

00:46:53.000 They worked on it for nine years.

00:46:56.000 They had eleven plenary sessions.

00:46:58.000 The people involved in that committee were their best and brightest, not just from Russia, but from all over the world.

00:47:05.000 It was a group of people from all over the world.

00:47:07.000 And at the Sixth Party Congress in Moscow in 1928, They adopted the program to transform the world.

00:47:16.000 They had another document, a big part of that effort was Wars of National Liberation.

00:47:22.000 Castro came to power by a classic War of National Liberation.

00:47:26.000 They had a separate item because most of the world was to be transitioned and transformed into socialism by a War of National Liberation.

00:47:39.000 They divided the world up into three different groups. 0.82

00:47:42.000 One was what they called a capitalist world, which is to be transitioned by democratic processes.

00:47:48.000 And that was Western Europe, Australia, and Japan.

00:47:51.000 And to a certain extent, the United States.

00:47:53.000 They considered the United States a colonial country also.

00:47:56.000 They were to be transformed by basically democratic processes.

00:48:01.000 And most of all those countries in Western Europe now have a socialist chief of state.

00:48:05.000 As you recall, they were going to move NATO east, and they brought Germany in, West Germany, East Germany in.

00:48:15.000 Let me stop you right there. 0.98

00:48:16.000 Again, everything you wrote about decades ago, everything you said would happen, happened, and now NATO is merging with Russia, now their planners are all over TV telling us this is good, they're shifting the Pentagon in domestically to control the populations, it's all happening.

00:48:34.000 But all those predictions, well I have distributed a report, Deadly Failures and Intelligence Analysis, and I took from that book all the findings and conclusions and recommendations and extrapolations based on the fact that they were still following the 1928 program.

00:48:50.000 But this proves your thesis because your roadmap, now decades old, has been exactly what's happened.

00:48:56.000 Now let me give you the roadmap in the future.

00:49:00.000 Give it to us.

00:49:01.000 They had planned You'll not find any dates associated with that program.

00:49:06.000 It's just like when you go to a theater.

00:49:08.000 They don't give you a blueprint.

00:49:11.000 They don't give you a plan.

00:49:14.000 They give you a program.

00:49:16.000 And that indicates that you have the resources and everything to put on a play.

00:49:20.000 Same thing is true with the program of the Third International.

00:49:23.000 It's an active document to transform the world.

00:49:26.000 Now, they had planned to have, by the year 2000, what they called a World Commonwealth of Independent States.

00:49:34.000 The year 2000.

00:49:35.000 If you read their party literature and leftist stuff today, you'll find they are claiming they have slipped a few years.

00:49:42.000 But then the exact same program is brought forward by the so-called capitalist states with their globalization or their new world order, and then we catch the big banks funding the communists.

00:49:42.000 Not many.

00:49:51.000 Well, let me just step through this.

00:49:53.000 It won't take but a minute or two.

00:49:56.000 They had planned to have, by the year 2000, a World Commonwealth of Independent States.

00:50:01.000 And what do they call themselves today?

00:50:02.000 The CIS.

00:50:03.000 The Commonwealth of Independent States.

00:50:05.000 And what's the Commonwealth?

00:50:06.000 It's a loose federation.

00:50:08.000 Alright?

00:50:08.000 They move into that in what they call the Global Corporate Socialism, or Globalism.

00:50:15.000 That's their term, Globalism, for this Global Corporate Socialism.

00:50:20.000 And that's where you take all these global cartels for the production and distribution of goods and services.

00:50:24.000 They're brought together in this world trade, and the World Trade Organization is therefore orchestrating this.

00:50:31.000 Then they move into a period of interdependence.

00:50:34.000 And this is where you have a world socialist division of labor.

00:50:39.000 When you set up the core countries that this guy's talking about in his book, you're talking about this world socialist division of labor.

00:50:47.000 under the heading of interdependence.

00:50:50.000 Remember we had a declaration of interdependence passed by many members of the Congress decades ago.

00:50:58.000 Then you have the withering away of the state because you have this global structure and you move into what they call regional government.

00:51:06.000 You have a global hierarchy of regional government to give you what they call in this world program World Communism, or a New World Order, and this is a world without nations, a world without nationalities, a world without borders, a world without war, and a world without competition.

00:51:26.000 And from that you develop the great socialist man, the Soviet man.

00:51:30.000 That's their program for the future.

00:51:32.000 Now what this guy's talking about in the book is globalism, which is a part of that program.

00:51:39.000 A very specific part.

00:51:41.000 Well, you read the program of 1919 that's... 1928.

00:51:44.000 Yeah, and expanded from 1919, as you said, though.

00:51:49.000 Well, that's when they set up the Third International.

00:51:52.000 But they had this study group that worked on perfecting this gradualistic program, and they didn't approve that until 1928.

00:52:02.000 In 1935, they had the Seventh Party Congress, and this was a global operation.

00:52:06.000 In the 7th Party Congress in Moscow there were over 532 delegates.

00:52:09.000 25 of them were from the United States.

00:52:10.000 25 of them were from the United States. - And let me just add this to this.

00:52:17.000 Then the United Nations is set up.

00:52:20.000 It's there to carry all of this out, along with the so-called trade groups.

00:52:23.000 That's how the EU started, as a quote, trade group.

00:52:25.000 Sure.

00:52:26.000 But General Parton, if people look at the public program, it's exactly what's happened, and then we've got all the so-called conservatives out there promoting it.

00:52:34.000 You name me one four-star general, one governor, one senator who's ever known anything about the program of the Third International.

00:52:42.000 Nothing.

00:52:43.000 It's been suppressed by all media and news media out there.

00:52:46.000 I've been trying to get my word out on it and talk show after talk show, but it's been totally suppressed.

00:52:51.000 But the proof is in the pudding.

00:52:53.000 Sure it is!

00:52:53.000 What is in the program is now what has happened.

00:52:57.000 And happening... Unbelievable.

00:53:00.000 Yeah, let's talk about where it's going, what life will be like under this, how to defeat it, and a lot more with General Parton.

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00:56:30.000 and some people get confused by this whole term communist but you notice that when McCarthy then accused the army of being involved in this and accused Wall Street of being involved which now has been publicly proven uh... they totally freaked out and finally went after him and it was just oh it's the leftists and oh it's the communists and oh you know it's just these little small groups doing this it was fine and dandy but when the big picture came out

00:56:56.000 That it was big financial interest behind this to have this criminal consolidation.

00:57:01.000 I don't call it communism.

00:57:02.000 I call it organized crime using this communist model to consolidate.

00:57:06.000 But it'll be the economic elite sitting on top of that and controlling it. 0.99

00:57:09.000 And everything they passed and brought forward in 1919, 1928, and 1935, those plans have now all happened.

00:57:19.000 The global government's here.

00:57:21.000 It's all developing.

00:57:22.000 It's all happening.

00:57:23.000 They're telling us Russia and China are good buddies.

00:57:26.000 And the police state's being set up in America.

00:57:28.000 Our police are starting to do things just like they do in Russia or China.

00:57:32.000 Our liberties are being scrapped.

00:57:34.000 All of this is happening.

00:57:35.000 We'll get more into it in the next hour with General Partin.

00:57:37.000 We'll also have time to go to your calls.

00:57:39.000 But General Partin, how do we stop this program?

00:57:45.000 How do we expose this?

00:57:46.000 Because, you know, they Both parties, all these governments, they're carrying out the program, and the few countries that aren't are being attacked and being called terrorists.

00:57:58.000 Well, you can't say any country is not, because the 1928 program targeted every country in the world.

00:58:07.000 And they identified the strategy to be used with those countries.

00:58:11.000 And they have been carrying them out ever since.

00:58:14.000 And they're not drugged out.

00:58:16.000 They're not things that are instantaneous.

00:58:18.000 They're all drugged out and programmed over a long period of time.

00:58:21.000 That's the Leninist method.

00:58:24.000 The Trotsky method is here and now over the borders of invasion. 0.58

00:58:28.000 The Lenin method is gradual.

00:58:29.000 And that's what the program of the Third International was.

00:58:32.000 It's what they're still following.

00:58:33.000 It's what they're still doing.

00:58:34.000 And it permeates almost every area of endeavor out there.

00:58:37.000 Let me just... One area, and I know some people will freak out on this, but the business of ecology and environmentalism in this country.

00:58:46.000 Is that being used as part of the program of 3rd International?

00:58:49.000 You bet it is!

00:58:50.000 Because they say in the program of 3rd International, one of our ultimate objectives is to control the forces of nature.

00:58:58.000 There's no God, so we're going to do it ourselves.

00:59:01.000 And Gus Hall, who was the head of the Communist Party of the United States for several decades, in 1972 he wrote a book called Ecology.

00:59:10.000 Can We Survive Under Capitalism?

00:59:13.000 Let me just tell you what he says.

00:59:14.000 The crisis of the environment, like other crises, has its roots in the inherent characteristic of capitalism.

00:59:20.000 The drive for private profits, which insists on the exploitation and racism, and promotes war and domestic violence, also includes an utterly reckless disregard for natural resources and the consequent contamination of the environment.

00:59:35.000 What country out there has had more contamination of their environment than the former Soviet Union? 0.99

00:59:40.000 The ultimate solution, this is over in the middle of the book, he says, the ultimate solution, of course, is the creation of a planned society in which the quest for profits has been abolished And the results of our science and technology are used for the benefits of the masses of the people of our nation.

00:59:55.000 Now, listen to the last thing, last thing he says in the book.

00:59:58.000 He says, it is hoped that this book will be a factor in helping the millions who are getting the experience of struggle in the movement against pollution to become a new force in the transition from capitalism to socialism.

01:00:14.000 Let me comment on that.

01:00:15.000 The well-meaning people that are out there trying to stop degradation of the environment, that's legitimate.

01:00:21.000 But when I go to these smart growth conferences, these environmental conferences, it's the big banks, it's the military, it's the government.

01:00:28.000 It's being used to criminally consolidate and destroy the general public, being able to have private property.

01:00:38.000 To expand a global government to regulate and control that, General?

01:00:42.000 Look, you will not find the communist program, or people active in this socialist internationalism, you will not find them participating in anything that you cannot find some legitimate support.

01:00:57.000 For example, in Canada- Stay there!

01:00:59.000 No, I agree, that's the point!

01:01:01.000 We gotta break, you're absolutely right, we'll be right back.

01:01:04.000 Hello, folks.

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01:01:23.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:01:27.000 We're talking to a man who served his country for decades, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, Brigadier General Benton K. Barton.

01:01:40.000 Helped expose the reality of what happened at Oklahoma City under Lord Clinton.

01:01:47.000 And, again, for decades he has been exposing the program of what I call the globalists.

01:01:54.000 But again, he points out that the communists are the ones that came forward with this.

01:01:57.000 But I point out that international banking funding created this.

01:02:00.000 That's one side of the vice grip.

01:02:03.000 And the leftists won't wake up to this until you point out to them that big corporations are for globalism and are for the communist plan, and at that minute we can deprogram them.

01:02:14.000 If we have this argument in a left-right debate, instead of a freedom versus slavery debate, they never wake up.

01:02:22.000 But I have found that if you show them that the big money that's not free market is behind communism, that this is organized crime, they will wake up.

01:02:31.000 General Parton, can you speak to what I've just said, or do you agree with that?

01:02:34.000 Well, the program of the Third International calls for the establishment of a global Fed.

01:02:42.000 A global one world bank.

01:02:43.000 One bank.

01:02:44.000 A global bank.

01:02:46.000 A global Fed.

01:02:47.000 It's spelled out in the program.

01:02:50.000 And you're going to have a tiny elite running that, and so again, what communism says it is publicly, is a total fraud.

01:02:57.000 See, it doesn't really matter what you define communism as.

01:03:01.000 Yes.

01:03:01.000 They've laid out a program for transforming the world.

01:03:04.000 And that program is being followed?

01:03:06.000 It is being followed.

01:03:08.000 Slavishly.

01:03:09.000 So what do you want to say to the average leftist who means well, who isn't evil, who's been conned by this?

01:03:14.000 How do you get to them?

01:03:15.000 Because I've been able to get to them.

01:03:19.000 Have you ever won a political argument with anybody?

01:03:21.000 Uh, yes.

01:03:23.000 Very seldom.

01:03:25.000 I win them all the time, General.

01:03:26.000 I know you win them all the time over a period of time, but it is a matter of exposing people to information and keep feeding it to them gradually, and they'll finally turn around.

01:03:36.000 But it's very, very difficult to win a political argument because each of you are arguing your own points and not seeing what the other one is saying.

01:03:43.000 Generally, it's very difficult.

01:03:44.000 You don't swing many people in politics.

01:03:47.000 How are you going to turn this thing around?

01:03:49.000 You've got to do it politically.

01:03:50.000 There's no other way.

01:03:52.000 And the biggest problem we have, one of the biggest problems we have in this country today, is that good people have abandoned the political process.

01:03:59.000 And you won't find a church out there who doesn't, say, discourage people from participating in the political process.

01:04:04.000 In fact, I invited an associate pastor to go to a meeting with me one time.

01:04:08.000 It was a political meeting.

01:04:09.000 At the time, I was chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee, which is the biggest political organization in the state and in the country at the time.

01:04:16.000 There were two congressional districts.

01:04:18.000 And the pastor, his boss, said, I don't want my people involved in anything outside of the church.

01:04:25.000 Or does he think he's going to sustain his freedom to still run his church?

01:04:29.000 No, you're right, but the World Council of Churches set up by Rockefellers... That's a front organization. 1.00

01:04:38.000 They've taken over that organization so many years ago.

01:04:41.000 It doesn't matter.

01:04:43.000 One thing about organizations, they're there to be taken over.

01:04:47.000 Or you can organize your own.

01:04:50.000 Let me give you some quotes from Leon Trotsky's book, which is THE Bible in Terrorism.

01:04:59.000 It was written in 1922, when he was head of the Soviet military.

01:05:04.000 And it was titled, In Defense of Terrorism.

01:05:07.000 In Defense of Terrorism.

01:05:08.000 And the basic thesis of that book, from cover to cover, is if you don't support terrorism, you don't support the cause.

01:05:15.000 Just that simple.

01:05:17.000 Let me just pick up, these are direct quotes and little simple short phrases.

01:05:21.000 I'll give you several of them.

01:05:22.000 He says, Crush the enemy. 1.00

01:05:24.000 Cut off the heads of traitors. 1.00

01:05:26.000 Avenge treachery. 1.00

01:05:28.000 Enemies of the new world order.

01:05:30.000 That's what he calls it.

01:05:31.000 Unity of will, unity of direction, unity of action.

01:05:34.000 He calls this the vulgar class.

01:05:37.000 He says, Our savagery toward the bourgeoisie which display no tendency to resist.

01:05:44.000 No tendency to resist.

01:05:46.000 Stay there, I want to repeat those quotes.

01:05:48.000 Calling it the New World Order, and then who else says New World Order?

01:05:51.000 This was a book by Trotsky.

01:05:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:54.000 Who else says New World Order?

01:05:56.000 And who carries out this exact program?

01:05:58.000 Our conservative leaders with the liberals.

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01:09:31.000 Here's Fabian socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928.

01:09:40.000 Under socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor.

01:09:43.000 You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed, whether you like it or not.

01:09:49.000 If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner.

01:09:59.000 Now again, this is slavery, folks. 0.99

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01:10:04.000 The United States has been in a state of national emergency.

01:10:07.000 A majority of the people of the United States have had their lives under emergency rule for 40 years.

01:10:12.000 Freedoms and government procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws Brought forth by States of National Emergency, Senate Report 93-549, 1973.

01:10:25.000 Here's Aldous Huxley's brother, Julian Huxley, Sir Julian Huxley, First Director General of UNESCO.

01:10:34.000 Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO, that Bush has signed back onto, to see that the eugenics problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of these issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.

01:10:55.000 Now, why am I reading those quotes?

01:10:58.000 These are ruthless people.

01:11:00.000 And General Partin, I want to get a clear answer from you on this, because this is what a lot of people don't understand.

01:11:06.000 Big money, big banks, some of the oldest and richest families in the world were involved with the seed money for communism, that's admitted.

01:11:15.000 They have been involved bolstering it and supporting it throughout its development, through setting up the UN, through putting communists in charge of it. 0.82

01:11:23.000 Can you explain to us this paradigm for people out there that are listening?

01:11:29.000 Well, the people with money out there, it doesn't mean that they earned that money from grassroots or growth capital kind of a way.

01:11:40.000 Many of them have been spoon-fed, just like Cecil Rhodes.

01:11:44.000 He was operating, he did a lot of things all over the world back there, setting up some of the leftist think tanks.

01:11:51.000 But he was operating with Rothschild money.

01:11:55.000 There's no question about the big money out there.

01:11:57.000 A lot of the industry is set up in this country.

01:11:59.000 The multinational corporations set up back there.

01:12:03.000 The first half of this century, many of them were set up to provide the seed bases for this world socialist division of labor way downstream.

01:12:12.000 So the leftists, the grassroots leftists, I talk to them, they don't get this, but when I'm able to show them elitist-owned autobiographies where they brag that the big money uses communism to criminally consolidate wealth, I'm able to deprogram them on this point.

01:12:27.000 That's what I'm bringing up to you, General.

01:12:29.000 Yeah, but you see, some of those people who have that big money are not going to be deprogrammed by you because they're part of the system.

01:12:35.000 Oh no, I'm not talking about big money people.

01:12:37.000 No, no, they love it and they understand and hate our guts.

01:12:39.000 I'm talking about the grassroots not being fooled by them anymore.

01:12:46.000 The grassroots people out there are really not informed about enough of a broad set of things to talk about the things we're trying to talk about here in this program.

01:12:58.000 Because there's nowhere, no place, they're fed that information.

01:13:02.000 I wasn't fed it, even in the military and all the military schools that I went to and all the education I had.

01:13:07.000 I never surfaced any of this thing except through my own independent studies.

01:13:12.000 The documents were there.

01:13:13.000 The information is there.

01:13:16.000 But it's just off the mainstream press.

01:13:20.000 And there's nobody out there, it's just like you're a guy who wouldn't come on with you today because you've been taking a position that's politically incorrect.

01:13:28.000 And what is politically incorrect is anything that's been contrary to the program of the Third International.

01:13:35.000 What's your basis for identifying something that's politically incorrect?

01:13:38.000 Go to the program of the Third International.

01:13:39.000 That's the only basis you've really got for it.

01:13:41.000 And it's 100%.

01:13:44.000 It is, it's what's happening.

01:13:46.000 I want to go to some calls here in a few minutes for everybody that's been patiently holding, but General Partin, you talk about where they're up to now, how they admit they're three or four years behind schedule.

01:13:56.000 You were reading quotes where the Communists said, we will use terrorism to centralize power, to centralize government, so we have levers to take control of, and that's clearly what's happening.

01:14:07.000 Go back into how they use terrorism, and then I want to talk about What their program will look like if they get it in place and how far away we are from that.

01:14:16.000 Let me quote a few more things from Trotsky's book.

01:14:20.000 Go back and re-quote that about the New World Order for us.

01:14:23.000 He calls it enemies of the New World Order.

01:14:26.000 That's just a line.

01:14:28.000 These are little phrases out of the book.

01:14:30.000 He calls it a merciless struggle.

01:14:36.000 Quote, insolent challenge to the balance of forces.

01:14:39.000 Therefore, it doesn't make any difference what the balance of power is for military powers in national conflict situations.

01:14:46.000 They can always take terrorism to the people they want to take it to.

01:14:51.000 It gives their life a purpose.

01:14:53.000 It exploits the flabbiness, rottenness, and helplessness of the middle classes and their parties. 1.00

01:15:02.000 I'd like to make a reference right here to the Abu Ghraib prison over in Iraq.

01:15:07.000 I don't know anything that is the biggest loss we have ever had over in the Middle East was the exposing and what went on and what was exposed at Abercrombie.

01:15:17.000 They not only did what they did in harassing prisoners or Abusing prisoners.

01:15:22.000 They photographed it, and then they spread those photographs to the world.

01:15:27.000 Somebody should be hung over that.

01:15:29.000 Stop.

01:15:30.000 I agree with you, and it's clear now, it's come out, that there were multiple intelligence agencies in there ordering them to do it with the express purpose of releasing it to make America look like the bad cop, so now the UN can come in and play the part of the good cop.

01:15:45.000 You bet.

01:15:46.000 And anybody who has any knowledge of what you do in this sort of intelligence work out there and debriefing prisoners knew the psycho-political aspects of that, that it was done and planned by people who had a lot more sense about the intelligence business and all the psychopolitical things than those poor GIs down there.

01:16:05.000 They were directed to do something.

01:16:07.000 And they admit they were, and the general says, don't blame me, I wasn't even allowed in those wings where these contractors were ordering our troops to do this.

01:16:13.000 But on the bigger picture here, pulling away from this, understand, folks, that, again, CBS released that.

01:16:22.000 The government army reports admitted it.

01:16:24.000 This was meant, we have Rumsfeld's own P2OG documents where he says, we're going to do stuff to enrage the Arabs so we can escalate a wider war.

01:16:33.000 General?

01:16:34.000 Let's go in and quote some of these other things here.

01:16:41.000 I know there's a lot you can't get into because of your position, but... It exploits the flabbiness, rottenness, and helplessness of the middle classes and their parties. 0.99

01:16:51.000 Are they helpless?

01:16:52.000 Are they getting... Is any major political organization out there really addressing the critical issues, exposing these critical things?

01:16:59.000 No, they're not.

01:17:00.000 They don't talk about it.

01:17:01.000 Because there's no other way of breaking the class will of the enemy except the systematic and energetic use of violence.

01:17:10.000 It introduced into the struggle the first degree of savagery.

01:17:16.000 It kills individuals and intimidates thousands.

01:17:20.000 Bolsheviks, making use of Red Terror, betray the principles of the sacredness of human life. 1.00

01:17:26.000 Did we see that in Southern Russia just in the last few days?

01:17:31.000 Checkmate.

01:17:32.000 Checkmate.

01:17:32.000 And by the way, General, I'm sure you're aware mainstream news is having a report that clearly Putin's people are behind this just like he blew up the buildings in 99 and that they left their special forces out the back door and are now going to have a show trial of some patsy.

01:17:48.000 Yep.

01:17:49.000 Okay, let's talk about that.

01:17:51.000 Putin has a past of this.

01:17:52.000 Can you speak about what you think happened at the school?

01:17:55.000 I don't know what specifically happened over there.

01:18:03.000 Anything that I would say would be supposition and I don't care to get into speculation on things like that.

01:18:08.000 Well, the evidence has now just come out in the last few days that officials, locals, people in the Russian government and the media are saying this was an inside job.

01:18:19.000 Inside job with respect to Chechnya?

01:18:21.000 With respect to who?

01:18:22.000 Inside job as Russian intelligence forces staging the event.

01:18:29.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:18:32.000 They do things like that.

01:18:34.000 The Nazis did things like that.

01:18:38.000 It's very easy.

01:18:39.000 Those things are done from the inside to make it look like... That's one way of maneuvering politically.

01:18:45.000 Just like down in Nicaragua.

01:18:48.000 There was an inside job down there of the left to get rid of the publisher who was a big leftist down there, Chamorro.

01:18:58.000 And to launch a lot of things in the revolution down there.

01:19:03.000 In Colombia, Castro, Del Pino, and one other guy went down and arranged the assassination of the head of the party, left-wing party, liberal party, out of power, and blamed it immediately on the conservative government.

01:19:16.000 And they started burning and sacking Bogota.

01:19:20.000 So those guys, they can trigger anything they want to to precipitate a reaction.

01:19:28.000 And they can do it from inside, they can do it from outside, they can get somebody to do it.

01:19:32.000 Just like the guy they engaged to do the killing of Dr. Gatton down in Columbia.

01:19:36.000 They immediately killed the guy they got to kill him.

01:19:40.000 And drug him around Bogota, behind a vehicle.

01:19:42.000 You know, you don't hear much about South Africa now.

01:19:47.000 You don't hear anything about the apartheid in South Africa.

01:19:51.000 And I remember in this gentleman's article by Barnett, They're talking about South Africa now being a viable country down there, and the core values and all this stuff.

01:20:06.000 But South Africa is now headed by a Communist.

01:20:10.000 And you know, the War of National Liberation, which is a three-stage thing, you have the long-term preparatory phase, the period of escalating violence, and then in the period of exploitation, you use that country as a base of operation against the next target countries.

01:20:24.000 Well, when Mandela was freed from jail, that was the beginning of the period of escalating violence.

01:20:29.000 And it went up to the time he became president.

01:20:32.000 And in that short period of time, just a few years, there were about 18,000 homicides in South Africa.

01:20:40.000 Remember when they were having all the necklacing?

01:20:42.000 Ed Barnett is now calling South Africa the model base for the takeover of Africa, which meshes with somebody else's plan, and you've got a communist in government, and we've got the Pentagon saying commies are good! 0.80

01:20:55.000 Now, but look what has happened since Mandela stepped down.

01:21:01.000 We've got to break again.

01:21:02.000 We'll talk about it when we get back, General, and we'll take your call.

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01:25:15.000 All right, General Parton, again, honored to have you.

01:25:28.000 You were completing a statement you were making when we hit that last break.

01:25:32.000 Well, I was making a point about South Africa.

01:25:34.000 Again, it was played up, you know, as a model for participating in this New World Order.

01:25:39.000 And I'd indicated earlier, they killed, there were 18,000 homicides during that period of escalating violence.

01:25:45.000 That's when Mandela was, before he became president and after he got out of jail.

01:25:51.000 And that was 18,000 over about one, four, five years.

01:25:57.000 Today, the homicide rate in South Africa is, according to the official police reports in South Africa, is running about 25,000 a year.

01:26:11.000 But the Interpol, the French group, says that the Homicide level rate in South Africa today is about 50,000 a year.

01:26:20.000 And by the way, most of that is racially motivated.

01:26:23.000 It's whites, but now the media doesn't talk about it.

01:26:26.000 Well, it's not mostly... Most of the people back there before it was black-on-black violence. 0.94

01:26:32.000 All I've read is that attacks on whites, racially motivated, have escalated.

01:26:37.000 Well, that's right.

01:26:39.000 But the numbers of people involved here You know, Brutal AZ was head of a big hunk of that country and he was promising they would have a separate state.

01:26:49.000 But they reneged on that and nothing was done about it. 0.55

01:26:52.000 So, many of those people who are being killed, most of them are black. 0.95

01:26:56.000 The large majority. 0.96

01:26:57.000 Yeah, it's horrible what's happening.

01:26:59.000 So they get control, then they escalate violence.

01:27:02.000 That's right.

01:27:03.000 That's right.

01:27:03.000 It's going far higher than, it is going up much steeper than many countries in the world.

01:27:09.000 The killing is accelerating a lot.

01:27:11.000 I have sort of a generic charge.

01:27:13.000 A chart that shows the level of violence as a function of the stages of the war of national liberation.

01:27:19.000 And for South Africa, they're well off the chart. 0.59

01:27:23.000 So how can the Pentagon be saying that this is a model country?

01:27:28.000 Well, is the Pentagon saying that, or is this guy who wrote this report?

01:27:31.000 Well, I know Barnett is, but a lot of others are saying that.

01:27:34.000 I mean, this map is what's being pushed by a lot of the top brass and people in government.

01:27:39.000 Well, they've been pushing this expeditionary warfare for a long time.

01:27:46.000 And with the precision-guided weapons and the capabilities you have, you can do a lot of things differently than you used to.

01:27:54.000 My gosh, I think we had the 7th Air Force over in Vietnam.

01:27:57.000 If you had a couple of A-10s with that kind of capability, you could probably kill more trucks on the Ho Chi Minh Trail than the whole 7th Air Force.

01:28:04.000 There's been a big revolution in air power with precision-guided weapons.

01:28:09.000 So looking at the Pentagon's new map, you know, these zones, China, Russia, aren't in it.

01:28:14.000 They're our friends now, and a lot of these so-called countries that are in the map to be attacked are just countries that aren't part of the New World Order.

01:28:24.000 Yet.

01:28:28.000 Or some of them are not conforming as some of the powers that be want them to conform.

01:28:34.000 But don't let anybody kid you.

01:28:37.000 The control of money, a global Fed and a global bank, which in its cursory stages is really the World Bank and the IMF.

01:28:50.000 Well, we're now going into the free trade area of the Americas, and they're even talking about making Miami or Atlanta the capital, openly merging our social security with the entire hemisphere, our governments, our police, and the average American, General Parton, has no idea that's happening!

01:29:04.000 That's right.

01:29:05.000 Let me just make another little step about Africa.

01:29:07.000 You remember Gaddafi in Libya?

01:29:10.000 Did take some major steps recently, disarmed himself of all his weapons of mass destruction?

01:29:15.000 Yes.

01:29:16.000 Why'd he do that?

01:29:16.000 Remember?

01:29:19.000 He hopes to become... they're working on establishing the same kind of an African Union like the European Union.

01:29:25.000 Yeah, he said that.

01:29:26.000 He wants to be their boy.

01:29:27.000 He wants to become their president.

01:29:29.000 And now they're telling us Qaddafi's good.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 But that's the reason.

01:29:34.000 It wasn't to be a good guy and get rid of this weapons of mass destruction.

01:29:38.000 He's playing for greater stakes as head of the I think that's being ignored.

01:29:47.000 I think the globalists are moving to make South Africa the capital.

01:29:52.000 Never.

01:29:54.000 No, they will not do that.

01:29:57.000 I guarantee you they will not make South Africa the capital.

01:29:59.000 So you think they'll make the capital Libya then? 0.51

01:30:03.000 Most probably would be in the Muslim world. 1.00

01:30:05.000 Khartoum?

01:30:06.000 Yeah, or somewhere.

01:30:07.000 Most probably.

01:30:08.000 All right.

01:30:09.000 I promise you callers, when we come out of this break, I'm going to go to you quick.

01:30:12.000 Dan and Dave and Mike and Ian and Robert, we're going to go to you quickly.

01:30:15.000 We've got a question or comment for General Benton K. Parton.

01:30:18.000 General, what will life be like underneath the New World Order if they get the whole program through?

01:30:26.000 I mean, if they had their way, what would this planet look like?

01:30:29.000 That's the question we get back from break.

01:30:31.000 I say a prison planet of complete enslavement and dehumanization.

01:30:36.000 A 1984 world.

01:30:37.000 We'll get General Partin's take on that and then go straight to your calls.

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01:34:16.000 We've been all over the map talking about the globalist program.

01:34:19.000 You can call it the communist program because that's where it came from, but it's clearly funded by the big criminal banks that are not free market and want you to be their slaves.

01:34:27.000 We're talking to General Benton K. Parton.

01:34:30.000 General, what will this program look like if it succeeds?

01:34:35.000 If they got their way globally, what would life be like under it, and what's the time frame?

01:34:40.000 It's totalitarianism.

01:34:43.000 What's totalitarianism?

01:34:44.000 You have no freedoms except what somebody gives you.

01:34:48.000 And what's the time frame?

01:34:49.000 You know, I think this is one thing that discourages a lot of people who think everything's going to happen tomorrow, and it isn't.

01:34:55.000 If you look at the things that I spelled out back there, the sequence of things that still have to go, from this world commonwealth of independent states, to this globalism, interdependence, the withering away of the state, and regional governments, to this ultimate, what they call, new world order, this world without nations, nationalities, and borders, But, you know, the United States is sitting primed and cocked right now to have a major expansion of the terrorist effort in this country.

01:35:22.000 You have the presidential directives back there going back to Nixon, I guess, to break down this country and to regional governments bypassing the state, which sort of conforms with that last stage of things.

01:35:33.000 Remember, this global hierarchy of regional governments.

01:35:36.000 By the way, Putin's going to the same color coding and going to the same 10 regional governors.

01:35:41.000 Yeah, but they can talk about it and do all kinds of things out there to make it sound wonderful and convert to just get you and the people to accept What they're moving toward in the New World Order.

01:36:02.000 How can Mr. Barnett get up on C-SPAN in front of the Pentagon's brass and say, the Pentagon's wrong, some of you still won't listen, China's our friend, they're not a threat.

01:36:13.000 I mean, how, when they're threatening to nuke us on a monthly basis, how can he get away with that?

01:36:17.000 Well, why does he get invited over there?

01:36:21.000 Why did he get invited?

01:36:23.000 Let me ask you another question.

01:36:25.000 I'll respond to your question with another question.

01:36:27.000 For the last several years, you've had the head of the House Armed Services Committee, Porter Goss, head of the House, not the Armed Services Committee, but the House Intelligence Committee, sitting in the catbird seat to oversee the intelligence organization in this country.

01:36:45.000 If there's anybody out there who has been in a position to force a reform in the bad things in the intelligence community, it's that guy.

01:36:54.000 Now he's being put up and recommended to be the new chief of the CIA.

01:36:59.000 Because he did a good job keeping the bad system in place?

01:37:03.000 I don't know, but I say if anybody was sitting in a position to reform things and solve the problems, he was over the last several years in that position as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

01:37:15.000 Alright, let's go to calls.

01:37:17.000 Let's talk to Dan and Matt.

01:37:19.000 You're on the air, thank you for holding patiently.

01:37:20.000 Hi again, I just called yesterday.

01:37:24.000 I salute you General Partin.

01:37:26.000 I'm really happy for what you're doing and I wish there were more like you out there.

01:37:32.000 Military, ex-military people that were willing to risk quite a bit to get the truth out.

01:37:38.000 I think it's great.

01:37:39.000 I think you're an American hero.

01:37:42.000 Alex, I was wondering if you could give me about four minutes to recite Patrick Henry's speech, give me liberty, give me death.

01:37:49.000 You know, I've read that on air before.

01:37:51.000 We don't have four minutes.

01:37:52.000 You want to read the last two paragraphs?

01:37:54.000 Oh, sure.

01:37:54.000 The whole thing's really good.

01:37:56.000 It's really pertinent.

01:37:57.000 Yeah, I know it is.

01:37:58.000 Okay, I'm going to... Could I do that then?

01:38:01.000 The last two paragraphs.

01:38:02.000 I will do that.

01:38:03.000 Thank you, sir.

01:38:04.000 Okay.

01:38:06.000 They tell us, sir, that we are weak, unable to cope with so formidable an adversary.

01:38:12.000 But when shall we be stronger?

01:38:14.000 Will it be the next week or the next year?

01:38:17.000 Will it be when we are totally disarmed?

01:38:20.000 And when a British Guard shall be stationed in every house?

01:38:24.000 Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction?

01:38:28.000 Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

01:38:40.000 Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those which the God of nature has placed in our power, millions of people armed in the holy cause of liberty and in such a country as that which we possess are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

01:38:58.000 Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone.

01:39:01.000 There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations and who will raise up friends who fight our battles for us.

01:39:09.000 The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone.

01:39:12.000 It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.

01:39:15.000 Besides, sir, we have no election.

01:39:18.000 If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest.

01:39:23.000 There is no retreat but in submission into slavery.

01:39:26.000 Our chains are forged.

01:39:28.000 Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston.

01:39:31.000 The war is inevitable and let it come. 0.98

01:39:33.000 I repeat, sir, let it come.

01:39:35.000 It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter.

01:39:37.000 Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace, but there is no peace.

01:39:40.000 The war has actually begun.

01:39:42.000 The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms.

01:39:47.000 Our brethren are already in the field.

01:39:49.000 Why stand here idle?

01:39:51.000 What is it that gentlemen wish?

01:39:54.000 What would they have?

01:39:55.000 Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

01:40:00.000 Forbid it, Almighty God!

01:40:02.000 I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.

01:40:07.000 Okay, thank you.

01:40:08.000 We've got to be fair to the other callers.

01:40:10.000 We're going to go to other callers here in a second.

01:40:12.000 I would just add to that that if they take over, if they set up the police state, If they start the roundups, we'll have to obviously physically fight.

01:40:19.000 We're trying to avert that, and at this point right now, that's exactly what the New World Order crowd wants, is violence.

01:40:26.000 They want us to move and to create a smokescreen for their takeover.

01:40:31.000 General Parton?

01:40:32.000 Well, you know, Waco and Ruby Ridge generated the militia movement in this country.

01:40:38.000 And in the bombing of Oklahoma, it destroyed the organized effort in the militia out there for the simple reason when they bombed Oklahoma.

01:40:47.000 They had McVeigh as a patsy in the operation, and he was labeled as a militia guy, which he never was.

01:40:55.000 And so that really disbanded the militia crowd out there.

01:40:59.000 So, you've got to win this fight in the political process.

01:41:05.000 It's just like the Minutemen.

01:41:07.000 Their operations, they were fighting after they had already lost.

01:41:11.000 Way back there, 30, 40 years ago.

01:41:13.000 Now that's it.

01:41:14.000 You've got to win in the political process, and the American people can do it now, but they have to take back the political process at the grassroots.

01:41:21.000 Not at the top, at the grassroots.

01:41:23.000 Then you can determine what the top is.

01:41:24.000 We've got to create our force.

01:41:27.000 In the local area, with the indigenous population, so if we do lose this battle, and if they do capture us, then we have to move into the Minuteman scenario. 1.00

01:41:38.000 Well, if you do it right, you will never have to.

01:41:40.000 Exactly.

01:41:42.000 Let's go ahead, and we're trying to avert that, folks, but if it does happen, we're going to win, and we're not going to stop, and everybody knows that.

01:41:48.000 And you know that too, Gloveless, don't you? 0.98

01:41:50.000 That's why you want our guns so bad, you pieces of filth. 0.95

01:41:52.000 All right, let's go ahead and talk to Dave in Illinois. 0.98

01:41:56.000 Dave, go ahead.

01:41:56.000 Hi, General Martin.

01:41:59.000 Thanks for your ongoing service to the country, and yours too, Alex.

01:42:02.000 I just want to make a quick statement.

01:42:05.000 You know, I wish they'd use the big ol' microwave oven protester cookers, the active denial system, to maybe try and detonate some of those improvised explosive devices in Iraq. 0.92

01:42:15.000 You know, save the poor commutant soldiers You know, but they probably won't do that because they want their martyrs.

01:42:22.000 But, you know, I see Abu Ghraib just going to stir up Iran. 0.88

01:42:31.000 All kinds of things like that.

01:42:32.000 Talking about Africa, I see that as social engineering, you know. 1.00

01:42:37.000 Uh, in the Sudan, they've already got money in the Department of Defense allocated for the Sudan, you know, and they're just dragging their heels, you know, so they can get their genocide going, so they can come in as the big hero. 0.92

01:42:49.000 And, um, my only question to the General would be, um, do you see anything, uh, related to the compassionate communism they're trying to bring in with the...

01:43:02.000 The United States Joint Forces Command... Let me stop you right there.

01:43:06.000 Those are a lot of questions, a lot of good points.

01:43:08.000 Bush calls himself, in his campaign in 2000, a communitarian.

01:43:12.000 Fifteen-year-old dictionary said, one who believes in communist systems of government.

01:43:17.000 Now it doesn't say that.

01:43:18.000 It's just one that believes in community.

01:43:20.000 Can you comment on that?

01:43:21.000 I think that's where he was going with the compassionate communism thing.

01:43:24.000 Well, I have a definition that I use.

01:43:27.000 It came out of the dictionary back in the fifties and sixties.

01:43:30.000 And it says, In 12 words, communitarian is one who believes in or is a member of a communist society.

01:43:38.000 And this is changing the meaning of words.

01:43:42.000 The new definition in Webster's is still 12 words, but it just calls it a partially... I had the thing in front of me.

01:43:50.000 I'll go on.

01:43:51.000 It's disappeared.

01:43:51.000 But you can go to your present dictionary and look it up.

01:43:53.000 It doesn't say anything like the dictionary 20 or 30 years ago.

01:43:58.000 Let me make another point quickly, a point you ought to make every time you have an opportunity.

01:44:03.000 This business of just church and state separation, you don't hear anybody...

01:44:13.000 The separation of church and state is in all three of the Soviet Union constitutions.

01:44:18.000 All three of them call for the separation of church and state, the separation of church and school, and the right of all citizens and the government to conduct anti-religious propaganda.

01:44:30.000 That's where separation of church and state comes from.

01:44:32.000 And to explain it, the First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, and then the press and assembly and all that.

01:44:43.000 So the government isn't supposed to be involved in religion, not that we're not supposed to be free to be involved in the government with our religion?

01:44:51.000 Well, they want to establish an atheistic world out there, and they're trying to use that phony thing which came out of the Sobey Constitution and interpret it in our American Constitution as containing that, and it isn't at all.

01:45:05.000 Okay, next up, Mike in Arizona.

01:45:08.000 You're on the air, Mike.

01:45:08.000 Go ahead.

01:45:09.000 Thanks for holding.

01:45:11.000 Hi Alex, General Parton.

01:45:13.000 Yes, sir.

01:45:15.000 General, as Alex mentioned earlier, we know that Jacob Schiff, when he worked for Kuhn Low, basically acting as a front man for the Rothschilds, probably, to finance the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.

01:45:34.000 Who is financing this movement today?

01:45:40.000 The big financeers and what's going on today.

01:45:44.000 Drug trade is one of the big sources.

01:45:50.000 Criminalism is another big source.

01:45:53.000 Just plain organized crime out there.

01:45:55.000 The communist world moved to take over and train people in Western Eastern Europe many years ago to either go out and liquidate or take over all the Mafia organizations in the world. 0.64

01:46:07.000 Yeah, the New World Order is a society of organized criminals working for a world government to cage us and feed on us at their leisure.

01:46:16.000 Is it fair to say that this is headquartered in the city of London?

01:46:23.000 No, is it?

01:46:23.000 Hey, let me just ask you, where is the headquarters of Christianity in the world today?

01:46:31.000 I don't think there is one.

01:46:34.000 But they're all working on that same book, aren't they?

01:46:37.000 Well, presumably.

01:46:38.000 Presumably, to a major extent.

01:46:39.000 Just like everybody in the comedy world is operating off the 28th program, still today.

01:46:44.000 So it's very distributed then.

01:46:48.000 Sure, it's distributed, but yet it has its masters on it.

01:46:51.000 Well, it's almost become reflex.

01:46:52.000 Then it gets put under other names and other policies and other think tanks and other movements, but it's all the same handbook, basically plagiarized under other names.

01:47:02.000 Just like Marion Barry here is the mayor of Washington for a long time, and he just won in his district, so apparently he's going to be back on the board in the District of Washington.

01:47:11.000 But he changed his middle name from Myron S. Berry many, many years ago when he was trying to be a street revolutionary to Myron S. Berry, and S was for Chalepin, and Chalepin at the time was the chief theoretician of the Communist Party in Russia.

01:47:26.000 General, one last question.

01:47:27.000 Have you written anything recently or are you planning anything to kind of help wake up the public?

01:47:34.000 I've been doing a lot of talk shows on this subject, and I am working on some things too.

01:47:37.000 Well, General Parton, I would like to invite you to write a 10 page, 50 page report, 100 page if you want, 500 if you want, and we'll post it on InfoWars.com.

01:47:46.000 We have millions of readers, conservatively.

01:47:48.000 I'll try to do that.

01:47:49.000 Alright, appreciate it.

01:47:51.000 Let me make one quick comment about when we went into Iraq.

01:47:55.000 I was attending a fairly large group here in Washington trying to save the U.S.

01:47:59.000 Patent Office.

01:48:00.000 And I made the comment to that group the day we marched into Iraq.

01:48:05.000 And I said, look at the press downstream.

01:48:09.000 I'm predicting right now that we are stepping into a trap.

01:48:15.000 And I say this for one reason.

01:48:17.000 At that time, you had Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Egypt.

01:48:24.000 All countries surrounding where you were going.

01:48:29.000 And every one of them was Soviet client states.

01:48:31.000 Every one of them.

01:48:33.000 Egypt was the first country to transition by what the communist world calls a block-within strategy.

01:48:38.000 Remember they had King Farouk on the throne, they got rid of him, put in Nasser. 0.97

01:48:42.000 That process was called the block-within strategy.

01:48:44.000 And the communist world adopted that, and the party congress in 1960 to be applied everywhere that strategy fit.

01:48:53.000 And it has been applied to many countries since.

01:48:56.000 How does Israel play into this?

01:48:59.000 You got another hour or two?

01:49:03.000 Look, there isn't a country out there that doesn't have some involvement in this, that doesn't have some penetration in this, or organization in people who organized it.

01:49:12.000 Look, they've been going for 75 years?

01:49:16.000 Longer than that, really.

01:49:19.000 But all of those countries surrounding Iraq, or client state.

01:49:24.000 Egypt was the first one to go by the block within strategy.

01:49:27.000 Iraq was the second one to go by block within strategy.

01:49:31.000 And Iraq was a secular country headed by, but it was still a dictatorship.

01:49:36.000 Let's take another call.

01:49:37.000 Let's talk to Ian in Canada.

01:49:41.000 You're on the air with General Parton.

01:49:42.000 Go ahead.

01:49:42.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:49:45.000 General Parton, those quotes from Trotsky could have come out of Mein Kampf.

01:49:50.000 But aside from that, There are three things that concern me.

01:49:54.000 Number one, a couple of weeks ago, the Iranian Defense Minister described the forces of the U.S.

01:49:59.000 in the Middle East, and Iraq specifically, as hostages of the Iranians.

01:50:04.000 Secondly, you've got a staged conflict being created right now between the Georgian Republic and the Russian Republic, which is consistent with the Soviet global war doctrine.

01:50:15.000 And you've got a program of Domestic terrorism in the Soviet Union, or Russia, the Russian Republic right now, being run by the internal security network, theoretically, and Alex believes that's the case.

01:50:29.000 Stanislav Dunyav, one of the highest ranking intelligence officers from the Soviet Union, warned in his book, In the Eye of the Enemy, that this is precisely what we would see preliminary to a comprehensive Chinese-Russian strategic attack on the West, of course targeted on the continental U.S.

01:50:50.000 Could it be more imminent than we think?

01:50:53.000 I believe they're going to use sandbags and use the political and the terror angle, General.

01:50:57.000 The communist world has always moved very conservatively.

01:51:01.000 How many times have you seen them really fail and fall flat on their face?

01:51:05.000 Not too often.

01:51:06.000 They move very conservatively.

01:51:07.000 They feel very, very sure and confident.

01:51:10.000 Let me make a comparison to the United States.

01:51:12.000 Let me stop you real quick. 0.99

01:51:13.000 Don't they only fail when a general like MacArthur refuses orders and does what he wants?

01:51:20.000 They've succeeded, man, eventually.

01:51:22.000 Well, they only got half of it.

01:51:23.000 Go ahead, General.

01:51:25.000 Yeah, they didn't.

01:51:27.000 Chow and Lai in China, when we were moving into, I guess, into Korea, said, we welcome the United States into Southeast Asia.

01:51:39.000 We will get them in and we will keep them forever and we will cut off their fingers one at a time. 0.99

01:51:45.000 We've been there over 50 years now.

01:51:50.000 These things have long-term strategic purposes, long-term strategic interests.

01:51:57.000 So we have had roots tied down in Korea all this time.

01:52:01.000 Nothing was resolved.

01:52:02.000 We got a break.

01:52:02.000 According to Mr. Barnett, they're our friends.

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01:55:01.000 Well, in a nutshell...

01:55:13.000 The organized crime syndicates, the central banks, over a hundred years ago financed a system to con serfs back into feudalism.

01:55:21.000 And so while our government actually propped up communism, it would also build up its own police state in the name of countering it.

01:55:28.000 Now they've shifted to the next phase of merging our governments and our militaries together.

01:55:33.000 And all these leftists out there can't figure that out.

01:55:36.000 They think they're fighting the big banks and fighting the evil rich men with the black top hats, you know, as they jokingly say.

01:55:41.000 But in truth, they work for them.

01:55:43.000 Because those guys are criminals and aren't for a free market.

01:55:47.000 Okay, and General Parton, we've got loaded phones here, but I'm just going to go to the last few who are holding first.

01:55:52.000 Robert and maybe John.

01:55:54.000 I'm sorry to all the others.

01:55:55.000 But just briefly, all the time I see news articles where KGB, or now the FSB, is advising the FBI and domestic police departments.

01:56:03.000 Former KGB chiefs are over helping with Homeland Security.

01:56:06.000 I mean, this is unheard of.

01:56:09.000 It sounds crazy, but now it's mainstream, General.

01:56:13.000 Well, if you accept the idea that communism is dead, why not?

01:56:18.000 It's a good idea that the Soviet Union is now a peaceful country with no objectives. 0.99

01:56:26.000 Why not?

01:56:28.000 But how did our police and FBI military go this far that they're openly learning all the horrible tactics of the communist Russians? 0.93

01:56:36.000 Well, there are a lot of good people in the FBI.

01:56:40.000 But, uh, they have the same problem you have in other organizations in government.

01:56:44.000 If you don't stay politically correct in what you're saying, you don't go anywhere.

01:56:49.000 You don't get up.

01:56:50.000 And, uh, there are a lot of good people in the government.

01:56:53.000 I remember my wife picked me up at the Pentagon one Saturday night, after midnight, and she was sitting there in the car looking at it.

01:56:59.000 I walked up to the car and said, there's a light here and another light over there.

01:57:03.000 And she said, you know, I bet there's not a single light on in any of those rooms.

01:57:07.000 There's somebody up there isn't.

01:57:09.000 Really on our side, or their side, fighting, working overtime.

01:57:15.000 I'm not sure what she was right about that.

01:57:18.000 Well, yeah, they got people like Barnett in there chastising the military.

01:57:22.000 You guys haven't got it!

01:57:23.000 China's our friend!

01:57:25.000 Russia's our friend!

01:57:26.000 You haven't got it!

01:57:29.000 You know, I remember back in the time of Sputnik.

01:57:33.000 I was at the ballistic research laboratories at the time, and they had this little small program, the civilians, the civilian program looking to put a satellite in orbit.

01:57:42.000 And General Madarius down in Huntsville, Alabama, had a three-stage device ready to put in orbit 18 months ahead of the Russians, 18 months.

01:57:54.000 And Maxwell Taylor called him and said, I'm holding you personally responsible to assure that the third stage of that device is enacted We can't support, we can't scoop the Vanguard program.

01:58:09.000 And the Russians went ahead and put Sputnik up 18 months ahead of the United States. 0.53

01:58:14.000 And our government always caught arming them with the latest technologies.

01:58:17.000 Robert in Illinois.

01:58:19.000 Robert, you're on the air.

01:58:20.000 Go ahead.

01:58:20.000 Good to be back on.

01:58:21.000 I want to thank you and General Parton, just like the other callers did, because without you I think we'd already be in the FEMA detention centers.

01:58:27.000 A couple quick things.

01:58:28.000 When I lead people to your website, I just plant seeds and I ask rhetorical questions, Socratic method.

01:58:33.000 I get them finding the conflicts and, you know, let the media present to them and so forth.

01:58:37.000 And then I afterwards, over a daily, weekly basis, I ask them for feedback.

01:58:41.000 To try to get a sense of what they're walking away with out of your website.

01:58:45.000 And I wanted to make a suggestion for whatever it's worth.

01:58:47.000 You talk about the gun control works, the mass murders, I'll agree. 0.98

01:58:50.000 If you could bring in the Rothschilds and a greater emphasis on the Rothschilds, like where you have the pictures of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. 0.76

01:58:58.000 If you could bring in that the Rothschilds have been at the top of it all, on the basic approach that when one puts together a puzzle that's a thousand pieces, it's easier generally if you can get all the outside pieces that have a straight edge or a square edge If they can see that the Rothschilds are at the top, that can clear up a lot of the confusion.

01:59:15.000 Okay, we're out of time.

01:59:17.000 Thanks for the call.

01:59:18.000 Sorry to all the other people that tried to call.

01:59:20.000 Be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

01:59:21.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2 central.

01:59:23.000 General Parton, thank you so much for coming on.

01:59:25.000 Any closing comments?

01:59:26.000 Tomorrow, my pleasure.

01:59:27.000 Next time you have this gentleman on, I'd be happy to debate him.

01:59:32.000 Well, I'd like to have Mr. Barnett on to debate us, but he's very upset when I talk to him.

01:59:36.000 I wonder why he's so upset, General.

01:59:38.000 Well, let me encourage all your listeners out there that they have to get involved in the political process at the grassroots level and take this country back.

01:59:47.000 You can't take the top back until you take the bottom down back.

01:59:51.000 Exactly.

01:59:52.000 Alright, take care.

01:59:53.000 God bless you all.

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