Alex Jones Show - 20041015_Fri_Alex

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00:00:39.000 It is already Friday, the 15th day of October 2004.

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00:01:19.000 Big broadcast lined up for you today, not just all the news about the election and about the government saying there's impending terror attacks coming, but also Dr. John Breeding will be joining us.

00:01:30.000 Yesterday we talked about state hearings that were held a few weeks ago, where the state's doctors, uh, psychiatrists, were saying that, well, the reason half the foster care children in Texas, and it's higher in other states where the average is about 53 percent, It's because their brains are wired differently.

00:01:49.000 It's eugenics, you see. 0.99

00:01:51.000 So we'll talk about that for about 30 minutes in 30 minutes.

00:01:55.000 And then Charlotte Iserby, number two position, Department of Education under Ronald Reagan, expert on the New World Order and their activities, will be here talking about the national ID card.

00:02:05.000 And then Declan McCullough, who writes for CNET News and many other big publications, will also be talking about that with us.

00:02:12.000 It's a big deal.

00:02:13.000 It's very important.

00:02:15.000 It could pass any day now.

00:02:16.000 It's passed out of the House and the Senate itself.

00:02:18.000 It's in conference committee right now as they merge the two different pieces of legislation, quote, from the advisements of the 9-11 Whitewash Police State Promoting Commission.

00:02:31.000 So, that is coming up.

00:02:35.000 Indymedia seizures, a troll for Genoa G8 trial cover-up.

00:02:40.000 Now we have found out, according to the Register and other publications, mainstream publications, that a foreign government ordered the FBI to grab 20 websites in this country.

00:02:50.000 Highly respected Indian media sites.

00:02:54.000 A lot of great journalists, even mainstream journalists, have quit and gone to work with these folks.

00:03:00.000 Back a few years ago, I remember in the Genoa Italy Summit, Where they killed people with armored vehicles, ran over their bodies, ran back over them, beat people to death.

00:03:12.000 Indy media reporters were almost beaten to death themselves or hospitalized with severe problems.

00:03:18.000 They sued and it was over the lawsuit.

00:03:20.000 They just don't like the lawsuit in Italy so they ordered the FBI under international law or new global government to grab our websites.

00:03:27.000 And I say our websites, because Indymedia, any of us can go post things on them in their discussion areas, and I've used them, they carry a lot of my stuff, and you know, it's our websites.

00:03:39.000 So it's very, very serious, but the good news is, Indymedia gets its servers back in court, and that's how they found out that this was the Italian government, the fascista government over there.

00:03:55.000 Very, very serious situation.

00:03:58.000 Leaders in D.C.

00:03:59.000 mock Senator Dayton, how he evacuated three days ago from the U.S.

00:04:04.000 Capitol, citing internal security reports he'd been given of impending attacks on the Capitol.

00:04:10.000 Well, yeah.

00:04:11.000 Three months ago, again, the Feds told U.S.

00:04:14.000 News and World Report that the Capitol would be destroyed.

00:04:16.000 I think I would evacuate.

00:04:17.000 Feds tell me your building will be destroyed.

00:04:20.000 It will happen.

00:04:20.000 I would leave.

00:04:22.000 But they're saying, how dare him leave, and he's not allowed to talk about the threat he was given by Senator Frisk, the leader of the Senate, and he's very evil, they're saying.

00:04:29.000 Meanwhile, Senator Byrd backs Dayton's decision to close his offices.

00:04:34.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

00:04:37.000 Families of 9-11 victims are looking to sue the government because they've dumped their bone fragments and ashes into the city landfill.

00:04:45.000 They're not very happy about that.

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00:08:07.000 All right, my friends.

00:08:14.000 We're now 8 minutes and 15 seconds into this first hour conversation.

00:08:18.000 Dr. John Breeding will be joining us to talk about how the government psychiatrists are now admitting that Taking people's children and forcibly drugging them.

00:08:27.000 Half of the foster children plus in the country are on these drugs.

00:08:32.000 They say it's because they're inferior.

00:08:35.000 They're subhuman.

00:08:38.000 It's eugenics right out in the open. 0.97

00:08:40.000 So we'll talk to him for about 30 minutes at the bottom of this hour.

00:08:43.000 Then Charlotte Isserby again, former Deputy Head of the Department of Education, number two position there in that department under Ronald Reagan.

00:08:51.000 Talk about the National ID Card and the State of Education as well.

00:08:54.000 Then the third hour, Declan McCullough from CNET News, also talking about the National ID Card legislation.

00:09:01.000 It's a big deal.

00:09:01.000 We're going to talk a lot about it.

00:09:03.000 And of course, throughout the broadcast, an important chronicle, or you could say smattering, of the most important news and information.

00:09:14.000 Before I get into crude oil, hitting $55 a barrel.

00:09:18.000 He told you Monday, looks like it's going to go to $60.

00:09:22.000 And then we'll get into the future of face and identity checking.

00:09:27.000 Your new national ID card.

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00:09:28.000 military pounds targets in and around Fallujah.

00:09:32.000 Also, rapper Blacks cheered when 9-11 happened. 0.99

00:09:36.000 I don't know what blacks you know, Mr. Racist, but the blacks I know certainly didn't cheer. 0.99

00:09:40.000 A lot of black people died in those buildings. 0.99

00:09:43.000 But disgusting racism, just the most venomous type of black Nazi activity you can imagine. 0.99

00:09:52.000 Out of control, we'll be going over that. 0.99

00:09:55.000 Also, Indymedia seizures a troll for Genoa G8 trial cover-up.

00:10:00.000 This is out of the register.

00:10:02.000 We're now learning why they grabbed the servers of a foreign government for no reason, and it turns out it's because reporters for that group were suing the Italian government for beating the living daylights out of them.

00:10:12.000 They actually killed a lot of people, ran over them with armored vehicles, backed back over them on video.

00:10:18.000 They would beat people so severely that a lot of them died.

00:10:23.000 So that is coming up as well.

00:10:27.000 Also again, leaders in DC are mocking Senator Dayton, who's pulled out of the Capitol.

00:10:31.000 But Senator Byrd says he's doing the right thing, so we'll cover that as well.

00:10:37.000 And we're working today on getting some congressman or woman, some senator on the show, the broadcast, to maybe pry some of the details of this national security briefing they were given that they're not allowed to talk about a month ago.

00:10:52.000 Of course, I think we know what that briefing was.

00:10:55.000 Unnamed White House source told U.S.

00:10:57.000 News and World Report And the Associated Press three months ago that the Capitol quote will be destroyed.

00:11:03.000 Again, I'm not saying that.

00:11:05.000 Let's make this clear.

00:11:06.000 It's the government saying it.

00:11:08.000 We have that article, several of those articles, where they said it posted.

00:11:13.000 So, and they've told Homeland Security, State Police, Police, Military, everybody I know that there's going to be a big attack and that the big date is from October 1st to November 2nd.

00:11:27.000 And then the alert continues through the new year.

00:11:30.000 Are they drilling us for martial laws as another fake terror alert?

00:11:33.000 I certainly hope it is.

00:11:35.000 Talk about the lesser of two evils.

00:11:36.000 I hope they're just issuing fake terror alerts.

00:11:38.000 I hope it's not real.

00:11:40.000 I hope the globalists don't have a group of patsies about to blow something up who think they're Al-Qaeda and don't know their bosses are CIA. 0.83

00:11:48.000 Or I hope they don't have a group of Russian spitsnats posing as Chechnyans about to unleash suitcase nukes. 1.00

00:11:55.000 Oh, by the way, I've gotten hundreds of emails.

00:11:58.000 I've gotten a bunch of people calling.

00:12:01.000 Why am I not talking about Bill O'Reilly and the sexual harassment suit?

00:12:06.000 I read about five pages of it and then quit reading.

00:12:09.000 Twenty pages of the suit.

00:12:11.000 And I'm not going to talk about it.

00:12:12.000 Now, we're not going to censor you.

00:12:14.000 If you want to talk about it, we can, but we've got potential Chechnyans or somebody else with suitcase nukes in the country. 0.97

00:12:21.000 We've got Senators evacuating the Capitol.

00:12:24.000 We've got every different agency I have contacts with saying they're told it's gonna happen, martial law, the whole nine yards.

00:12:31.000 We've got crude oil at $55 a barrel.

00:12:33.000 We've got the high-tech job layoffs accelerating.

00:12:37.000 We've got mass programs for a new national ID card to have a job. 0.91

00:12:41.000 Federal programs to forcibly, psychologically test every American about to pass.

00:12:48.000 I would be embarrassed if I talked about Bill O'Reilly.

00:12:52.000 I didn't talk about Kobe Bryant.

00:12:55.000 I didn't talk about O.J.

00:12:56.000 Simpson.

00:12:57.000 I am just not going to do it.

00:13:01.000 Okay, let's talk about Mr. Bennett and his book of virtues, and he's this mad gambler.

00:13:07.000 Millions and gambling.

00:13:09.000 Let's talk about Rush the Pillhead. 0.99

00:13:11.000 The reason I mention that a few times is because the guy said anybody who does drugs should go to prison.

00:13:16.000 Throw away the key? 0.94

00:13:16.000 Okay, then throw your pill head in there. 0.94

00:13:19.000 I don't believe you should go to prison, Mr. Limbaugh. 1.00

00:13:20.000 I think you are sick. 0.77

00:13:21.000 I know you did hurt your back. 0.98

00:13:23.000 I know you did get addicted.

00:13:24.000 I know the big farmer puts out these dangerous drugs.

00:13:27.000 But, uh, you know, you said it, so you need to go to prison.

00:13:30.000 But I'm sorry, I just... Rush Limbaugh on pills, uh, Bennett gambling, and allegedly, uh, Mr., uh, Mr. O'Reilly being a pervert, I mean, what am I supposed to say?

00:13:50.000 What am I supposed to do here?

00:13:51.000 It just doesn't matter.

00:13:52.000 You know, David Dreyer living with his boyfriend.

00:13:55.000 Frankly, the Republicans think it's a wonderful thing.

00:13:58.000 So, let's just drop the whole thing.

00:14:01.000 Folks, we're about to be nuked, probably.

00:14:04.000 At least the government's saying it's going to happen.

00:14:08.000 I mean, while you're busy off running around, and by the way, I think that is bad, what Dreyer's doing.

00:14:12.000 My point is, Republicans think it's a Christian conservative thing, so let's just leave it alone. 0.96

00:14:17.000 You know, they think busing in male prostitutes, male porn stars to service them at Bohemian Grove is a good thing, New York Post, Associated Press. 0.97

00:14:24.000 So, you know, again, it's all a big joke. 0.94

00:14:30.000 The whole thing's a joke.

00:14:31.000 So, I'm not going to talk about those issues.

00:14:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:36.000 I know it's fun.

00:14:37.000 I know it's like a soap opera.

00:14:39.000 The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

00:14:45.000 The whole thing is just a diversion, people.

00:14:49.000 It is a diversion.

00:14:51.000 Do I think that Bill O'Reilly is guilty?

00:14:55.000 I don't know. 0.95

00:14:55.000 I mean, he's so arrogant. 0.95

00:14:58.000 He's so dishonest. 0.99

00:15:01.000 He's loved by conservatives when he's not conservative. 0.77

00:15:05.000 What does my nose tell me?

00:15:06.000 I think you know what your nose tells you about Mr. O'Reilly.

00:15:10.000 But it doesn't matter compared to 25 potential Chechnians or whoever they are with suitcase nukes. 0.99

00:15:18.000 It doesn't equate with people evacuating the Capitol.

00:15:23.000 I mean it just doesn't.

00:15:26.000 Open air growing corn that has live AIDS virus in it, mad cow disease in the US, Wide open borders, it just doesn't even equate.

00:15:41.000 It doesn't even make it onto my radar screen.

00:15:43.000 So why am I talking about it?

00:15:45.000 Because people are obsessed with it, and this is what people want to talk about.

00:15:50.000 And if you can't feel how we're on the razor's edge, how we're at the edge of the precipice, You know, that feeling when you're standing on a 5,000 foot cliff looking down at your death.

00:16:00.000 You know, that's the type of feeling I've got in my guts, my heart, my soul right now for this country.

00:16:06.000 And we're talking about Kobe Bryant, and we're talking about Lacey Peterson, and we're talking about Scott Peterson, and we're talking about Bill O'Reilly, and phone sex.

00:16:18.000 And I just do not frankly care. 0.96

00:16:23.000 I mean, I think it's Disgusting behavior if it's true.

00:16:27.000 Pressuring someone who worked for him.

00:16:29.000 And yeah, it's bad.

00:16:32.000 But it does not equate with our troops dead and dying in Iraq in a war based on a fraud, based on lies.

00:16:40.000 So if you call in about it, fine.

00:16:42.000 You're welcome to.

00:16:43.000 But don't expect me to be all friendly with you about it and sit there and try to elaborate on it with you.

00:16:49.000 I'm done talking about it.

00:16:51.000 I will not talk about it again.

00:16:52.000 I'm done.

00:16:56.000 If you call in telling me about baseball, I'm going to get really mad.

00:16:59.000 Okay?

00:17:00.000 I mean, you've got all the other shows in the world to talk about this stuff.

00:17:03.000 This is not the broadcast.

00:17:05.000 This is not the forum.

00:17:06.000 But again, we don't screen your calls. 1.00

00:17:08.000 You want to call in with idiocy, go ahead. 0.99

00:17:10.000 And I don't mean that for 98% of our listeners, but for some of you, you know who you are. 1.00

00:17:15.000 You need to get your heads screwed on straight.

00:17:18.000 Because Bill O'Reilly isn't going to matter very much if we wake up with the phone lines jammed And you can't call your family members and they're announcing that we're under civil emergency and the police are blocking the highways and we hear the first cases of super smallpox are, you know, spreading through five states.

00:17:37.000 It isn't going to matter anymore when we wake up and a major city has had about a hundred square blocks turned into a molten crater and the rest of the city is radiated with dead and dying evacuating.

00:17:54.000 And then they're going to have a national draft, and they're going to take your children, and they're going to inject them into dozens of countries, and it's never going to end, and the real tyranny is going to start, and yes, other levels of conflict are going to probably break out in this country.

00:18:08.000 And they're going to put you, the police, and the firemen, and the military on the front lines of doing something that doesn't keep us safe, but cements a total dictatorship in this country.

00:18:17.000 And I mean a dictatorship of this corrupt elite.

00:18:20.000 No matter if it's John Forbes Carey or George W. Bush, or now we learn they're both cousins with Dick Cheney.

00:18:29.000 I already knew that, but now more details have come out mainstream.

00:18:33.000 It just never ends, people.

00:18:36.000 Okay, I didn't mean to spend an entire segment on this, but now there, I've done it.

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00:24:01.000 Let's do this.

00:24:10.000 I'm going to go to your calls extremely quickly.

00:24:15.000 Alright, let's go ahead and talk to Barry in Missouri.

00:24:18.000 Barry, go ahead, you're on the call.

00:24:19.000 Hi Alex, great show, really appreciate all you're doing for this movement we're having here.

00:24:26.000 Listen, I just wanted to confirm what you were talking about earlier a few days ago about all the toll roads.

00:24:33.000 I turned on two major AM stations here in the St.

00:24:37.000 Louis area and they were talking about widening Interstate 70 between Kansas City and St.

00:24:44.000 Louis And turn it into a toll road for $10 each direction.

00:24:48.000 $45 for truckers.

00:24:50.000 And were they saying it was wonderful?

00:24:52.000 Oh, yes.

00:24:53.000 I mean... Very conservative.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, and you know why?

00:24:56.000 I guarantee you that that toll company with the government is about to buy giant ad packages on those stations.

00:25:03.000 That's how they do the payoffs here locally.

00:25:05.000 Yeah.

00:25:06.000 Then I tuned into KMOX, another major station, and the callers were talking about turning in One of these newer bridges on the Mississippi to turn it into a toll bridge.

00:25:19.000 Every road in the United States that's state or federal or local of any major size will be a toll road as the official federal plan that I told folks about in 99 in my film Police State 2000 with the documents, with the documents and now here we are I said by 2005 in the film and they're a couple years behind having it in everywhere but it's going in all over the country right now.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, well, Alex, just like you said, okay?

00:25:46.000 What can I say?

00:25:47.000 Well, I wish I was.

00:25:48.000 I mean, all I do is read the documents.

00:25:50.000 I mean, I get up here and rant and rave, but I spend probably four or five hours a day just reading government documents.

00:25:55.000 Yeah.

00:25:56.000 My wife will come down at 3 a.m.

00:25:57.000 and go, go to bed.

00:25:58.000 What are you doing?

00:25:58.000 And I'm just like, you know, that's all I do.

00:26:00.000 I just know their plan.

00:26:02.000 It's hell on earth.

00:26:02.000 It's the end of this country.

00:26:04.000 Thanks for the call, Barry.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, and is this our country?

00:26:08.000 In polls in Texas, 98% of people are against it in Houston, 93% in Austin, and they say, we don't care!

00:26:14.000 We don't care! 0.98

00:26:15.000 Just shut up! 1.00

00:26:16.000 We have men with black uniforms with machine guns! 1.00

00:26:19.000 Go ahead and try to riot! 0.98

00:26:21.000 We built camps for you!

00:26:22.000 Ha ha ha!

00:26:23.000 Dan in Texas.

00:26:23.000 Dan, you're on the air.

00:26:24.000 Go ahead.

00:26:25.000 Alex, I want to say what a pleasure it is to get to talk to you.

00:26:28.000 I'm a student at Rice University, and I have to say, you are Infinitely smarter than the professors I'm forced to sit through in political science and history classes.

00:26:37.000 I bring them the information that you put on... I'm a Prison Plan subscriber.

00:26:41.000 I bring them the information and they laugh at me.

00:26:43.000 Haha!

00:26:43.000 9-11 conspiracy!

00:26:44.000 Get your tinfoil hat back!

00:26:46.000 You know?

00:26:47.000 So it's a pleasure to get to talk to you live.

00:26:49.000 It's good to talk to you, Dan.

00:26:50.000 Thank you.

00:26:51.000 There is a generation of some of us, some of us youth, that are actually waking up to this.

00:26:55.000 I wanted to talk about Senator Mark Dayton.

00:26:58.000 Yes.

00:27:00.000 Our friend General Eberhardt from Northern Command, which now has the FEMA troops, the first responders, the National Guard, he's saying, we have to suspend posse comitatus.

00:27:10.000 This man comes out yesterday to the press and says, you know, Mark Dayton is crazy.

00:27:13.000 Don't worry about what he's saying.

00:27:15.000 I don't think it's going to be on D.C.

00:27:17.000 I think it's going to be on our ports, our harbors, and our infrastructure.

00:27:21.000 And he says there's going to be a multiple city attack.

00:27:24.000 And this is the guy who has control over the first responders.

00:27:28.000 Now to show how I don't know it all and can't keep track of it all, where did you see General Eberhardt, the new head of the domestic Gestapo?

00:27:36.000 I want to find this article.

00:27:37.000 Where did he say this?

00:27:39.000 Alright, Alex, I went on news.google.com and typed in Northern Command.

00:27:42.000 And actually, he was out with 750 of these new World Order Generals.

00:27:50.000 And actually, Alex, I think what you've been saying is that the agenda has never been more united.

00:27:55.000 They want to get us microchipped, they want some poles on the road, they want to get our kids drugged, they want us drugged, they want us in prisons, they want to draft people like me, total prison economy, total military economy, wipe out the world's population.

00:28:07.000 Like, Kerry will do it too, absolutely.

00:28:09.000 There is a group of generals within the United States government right now that doesn't want to see John Kerry win.

00:28:14.000 They have their military empire of global conquest, and they will be damned in some Illuminati master in the Netherlands.

00:28:21.000 So, where was Eberhardt yesterday with his gaggle of... Yeah, he's in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

00:28:27.000 No, I know that's where he's based, but I'm saying, where did you... What particular news... It was from a Colorado Springs paper.

00:28:34.000 It was a local paper, and they were holding a conference for 750 people.

00:28:36.000 I wish I was in front of a computer right now.

00:28:38.000 I could give you the direct link.

00:28:40.000 But the crux of it was, he held a special conference, and they had a bunch of reporters, they had pictures of the reporters, actually in the article, and he said, you know, don't worry about what Mark Dayton said.

00:28:48.000 He said, we don't have any actionable information, but we think that they're going to hit our ports, our harbors, and our infrastructure.

00:28:55.000 I think that's a direct quote.

00:28:56.000 Okay, so, you know, I'm in Houston.

00:28:58.000 I'll find that article.

00:29:00.000 But I wanted to add, Alex, that one of the people who was supposed to show up for the conference was this man, James Lloyd, who's the Deputy Director of the Homeland Security.

00:29:08.000 He doesn't show up, so I started investigating, well, who's James Lloyd?

00:29:11.000 Here are some quotes from him.

00:29:12.000 He says, When Al-Qaeda takes credit for the Madrid bombing, the notion that one can realize political ends by atrocious terrorist behavior can't be left on the table.

00:29:21.000 One only has to extrapolate and wonder what's going to happen in the U.S.

00:29:24.000 elections, he told Reuters in an interview in Vienna.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, I saw that quote.

00:29:28.000 And by the way, at the very same time, they're saying they may suspend the election.

00:29:34.000 Oh, right.

00:29:35.000 And you have the four stories out of the Federal Election Commission saying, well, you know, we have to do it.

00:29:40.000 Again, Michael Isikoff writing about it in Newsweek.

00:29:42.000 You have Ashcroft saying that we have to take the legal measures.

00:29:44.000 They're ready for this.

00:29:45.000 This was plan B. Yeah, the question is, will they do it?

00:29:48.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:49.000 Thanks for the call.

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00:36:14.000 Senator Dayton evacuated the Capitol three days ago, saying that he was given a national security briefing of impending disaster there.

00:36:21.000 Then again, we have a U.S.

00:36:22.000 News & World Report being told by a White House source that the Capitol will be attacked.

00:36:27.000 Again, I'm not saying this is going to happen.

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00:36:43.000 They just know it's going to happen and we'll have to take all of our rights.

00:36:48.000 So we will get to your calls as well.

00:36:50.000 We have several guests coming on about the National ID Card situation.

00:36:54.000 Joining us just for the next 25 minutes Dr. John Breeding, who is a good personal friend of mine here in Austin, Texas, also an author.

00:37:03.000 We even carry the two books he's written on the subject of drugging the children and how they set this up.

00:37:09.000 He testifies around the country.

00:37:12.000 Back on October 4th, he was testifying to a state board, to the legislature.

00:37:18.000 And there were some people there on the side of big pharmas and psychiatrists saying that, well, the reason we've drugged half the foster children isn't because they're unhappy or in bad conditions and isn't because you're five times more likely to be abused in foster care custody.

00:37:30.000 That's just the statistics.

00:37:33.000 But it's because their brains are wired differently.

00:37:36.000 That's pure eugenics, folks. 0.99

00:37:38.000 These kids are subhuman, basically, they're saying.

00:37:41.000 And Dr. Breeding was there and stood up to them.

00:37:44.000 And he's put out a report on this that said wildestcults.com or at ablechild.org or at, of course, InfoWars.com.

00:37:52.000 Dr. Breeding, great to have you on with us.

00:37:54.000 Hey Alex.

00:37:55.000 You know, I feel like I am in the middle of the Nazi Germany coup d'etat or something, and in the middle of all this we've got just the most draconian statements, eugenics coming back out all over the place. 0.79

00:38:09.000 Yeah, I know.

00:38:10.000 I think about you in that situation because I know all the things that you're describing that just went over again a couple of minutes ago.

00:38:16.000 Here I am down at the state legislature testifying to a committee that's investigating CPS and specifically that hearing was on foster care and psychotropic drugs.

00:38:30.000 Sure enough, the docs come up and say it out loud right to the legislators that the reason So many kids are having to be drugged because they're really sick and they come from a bad gene pool and they have a different brain.

00:38:46.000 And by the way, those are quotes.

00:38:48.000 Those are direct quotes.

00:38:49.000 You know, they come from a bad gene pool and their brains are different.

00:38:52.000 Those are direct quotes from two different doctors.

00:38:55.000 And it's completely a eugenics justification and philosophy. 0.88

00:39:00.000 Exactly.

00:39:01.000 And it's a complete avoidance of The thing that you said, you know, which is that it's about trauma, it's about upheaval, removal from the home, it's about neglect, poor care, the inability to meet these children's real needs.

00:39:18.000 So yeah, they're traumatized and they have a hard time and there's no doubt about that.

00:39:22.000 But to just say that it's a bad gene pool and that's why they need drugs, it's like, it's just, everything's completely justified.

00:39:29.000 There's no problem with the system, there's no problem with how we care for the children.

00:39:33.000 There's no need to think any further.

00:39:34.000 And it's a direct parallel to what goes on in politics that you're describing.

00:39:38.000 Well, Dr. Breeding, I mean, I respect you as, you know, a real psychologist.

00:39:43.000 Certainly psychology is a real field.

00:39:45.000 Trying to then make it medical is something completely different.

00:39:48.000 I mean, what's happened to us?

00:39:49.000 It seems like on every front, There is a separation happening.

00:39:54.000 The awareness of those of us fighting it is growing.

00:39:58.000 There's more of us every day.

00:39:59.000 But at the same time, those that are in the system seem themselves to really be manifesting a type of rampant despotism or insanity where they're now just espousing, yeah, we're going to put cameras in school bathrooms.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, we're going to drug all of you. 0.66

00:40:14.000 Yeah, we're going to go to war with everybody.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, we're going to take all your freedoms. 0.97

00:40:20.000 Yeah, we're going to have a national ID card.

00:40:21.000 I mean, it's like I woke up in a bad dream or something.

00:40:24.000 The speed of all of this, the coming out in the open of all of this, what's happening?

00:40:29.000 Is this part of a systematic game plan?

00:40:32.000 Or are these people so out of touch with reality that they think what they're doing is normal?

00:40:38.000 Well, I think both are true.

00:40:40.000 Actually, I think it is systematic in the sense that it's a very deliberate plan, just like Bush's decision to present himself as a very certain person who is very after the evil and going to protect people from it and he makes no mistakes and he's absolutely perfect.

00:40:58.000 And then on the other hand, people are just I think both are true.

00:41:04.000 denial.

00:41:05.000 They are just afraid to confront the reality of what's happening with the world.

00:41:09.000 And when you can put somebody up there who can say, I know exactly what's going on and I will take care of you and this is the way to do it, then there's a little bit of a protection, it feels like, from facing the truth and facing reality, which is a hard pill to swallow and which shakes people up.

00:41:25.000 So I think both are true.

00:41:26.000 I think it is systematic and I think it's also true that it appeals to a kind of a psychological weakness, if you will, which is that it's hard to confront the truth because it's scary and it feels insecure.

00:41:37.000 I hate to use a gross analogy, and then we'll get back into this latest eugenics development that we've seen popping up in other areas, by the way, folks, not just in Texas.

00:41:47.000 But I'm sure you heard a few months ago about the 600-pound woman who hadn't been up from her couch in six years. 1.00

00:41:54.000 Actually, that might have gone right by me, so keep going.

00:41:56.000 Well, the only reason I bring this up, it's a horribly gross analogy, but I use this as the example of the 800-pound elephant or whatever in your living room.

00:42:04.000 Right.

00:42:04.000 We all use that analogy or the 10-pound elephant, whatever.

00:42:06.000 No analogy to her or no pun concerning her.

00:42:10.000 My point is she had grafted to the sofa.

00:42:12.000 She hadn't been up in six years, and the entire room was full of her waste, but her family kept bringing her food.

00:42:22.000 And to me, that showed the denial, how incrementally it could end up with something like that.

00:42:27.000 That's kind of indicative of the society itself, that we are in denial about really what a decadent, corrupt empire, sick empire we've become.

00:42:35.000 And I don't mean all of us folks, but I mean the system itself, and what we've been conditioned to accept.

00:42:42.000 Well, I think you're right.

00:42:44.000 It is a gross analogy, but I think it's an accurate one in the sense that it's a metaphor for what you're talking about.

00:42:50.000 We've got these huge numbers of people locked up in prisons.

00:42:57.000 We've got this sinking of our resources in a made-up war.

00:43:05.000 Uh, uh, the killing of, uh, innocent people everywhere.

00:43:09.000 You know, we've got, we've got this gradual or maybe not so gradual erosion of civil liberty that you keep talking about.

00:43:17.000 And, and, uh, it is, it's obscene and gross.

00:43:20.000 And, and then, and then to have a figurehead kind of president who says, it's all right.

00:43:24.000 And I reassure you, and I've got under control and we're not making any mistakes.

00:43:28.000 We're doing exactly the right thing.

00:43:30.000 It's, uh, It is mind-boggling, and this is why I always love this conversation, because you confront this every day just like I confront it every day, and every day still I shake my head.

00:43:42.000 Let me ask you this.

00:43:48.000 You're in this committee, and we've got the quotes here and the doctor's names, but let's detail this for people briefly here.

00:43:54.000 I mean, you're there, and they're openly spouting eugenics statements, because you're there saying, why are half the foster care children, up in Massachusetts and other areas, it's more like 65%, you know, why are so many of them on these drugs?

00:44:10.000 And then they're saying, well, that's because they're a different species, basically.

00:44:14.000 I mean, you're there.

00:44:14.000 How did the committee respond to these statements?

00:44:17.000 Well, it is over half.

00:44:18.000 It's closer to three quarters in Texas.

00:44:23.000 And many of them are on multiple psychotropic drugs.

00:44:26.000 Many of them are on these heavy-duty so-called antipsychotic drugs that are known to cause permanent neurological disease in anybody who takes them for very long.

00:44:36.000 They just zonk the kids out. 0.96

00:44:37.000 Many of them are on the adult antidepressants, which have just been this huge warning thing about how they cause suicide in a certain number of kids.

00:44:46.000 Huge numbers of them are on the speed-type drugs.

00:44:49.000 We've got a new report from this week that shows that a lot of them, even under age 6, under age 5, and even under age 3, are on these drugs.

00:44:57.000 So that's the reality of it.

00:44:59.000 So yeah, the good news is the legislatures are recognizing that this is a huge problem, and so they're willing to listen to people like me.

00:45:07.000 The other thing though is that they're not willing to go and say, this is just a bogus practice.

00:45:13.000 They're willing to say, well, maybe it's overdone a little bit, but we still have to Respect the doctors and listen to them.

00:45:20.000 So then the doctors come up, and their lobbyists, so it's either the doctors or their lawyer lobbyists, both of them speak to this group, and they say, incredibly enough, kind of like this 600 pound woman or the elephant in the living room, they say, you know, the problem is that she's not fat enough, and we're not feeding her enough.

00:45:40.000 So they literally go up and say, you know, these kids are really sick, and you know what, what we need to do is There's probably even more of them out there that we're not taking care of.

00:45:47.000 The problem's not that we're over-drugging.

00:45:50.000 It's that they really need this, and they probably even need more.

00:45:54.000 So now it's not the parents' fault, who many times did absolutely nothing.

00:45:58.000 We've got this industry that gets paid according to how many children they snatch. 0.99

00:46:02.000 And then again, bed zone statistics, five times more likely to be abused in their hands.

00:46:07.000 Most dangerous group are these big foster houses and foster parents, period.

00:46:11.000 I'm not saying you're all bad, but statistically, most dangerous group out there.

00:46:15.000 Just the facts, folks.

00:46:16.000 And you grab these children, and I knew the national average was over 60%, you're saying almost three quarters in Texas, worse than I had thought, on the numbers I've seen, Doctor.

00:46:24.000 And then now you go in there and they're spouting off about eugenics and we need to get even more kids. 0.63

00:46:29.000 And I mean, how do they morally sit there and cram these pills in two and three year olds mouths so they can just warehouse them and so they just sit there in their rooms and the foster parents can just collect the checks.

00:46:40.000 Yeah, it's money driven as always.

00:46:42.000 and say it's all their fault and, you know, they've got different brains.

00:46:45.000 Well, none of them have been CAT scanned or looked at.

00:46:47.000 It's just, I mean, we've got teachers saying you need to go on drugs.

00:46:51.000 It's a total fraud.

00:46:51.000 That's right.

00:46:52.000 Yeah, it's money-driven, as always, you know.

00:46:55.000 I was with a family this morning.

00:46:57.000 They're finally, hopefully, getting their daughter home.

00:46:59.000 You know, she was yanked out of the school against her will because they gave her this little screening thing, and this is related to the mental health screening, and I still want people to go to my website, wildestcultedots.com, and sign on to that declaration of refusal to have your children screened in the schools But this young person was screened in Pflugerville.

00:47:19.000 They decided she was suicidal.

00:47:21.000 She told them, no I'm not.

00:47:22.000 They still took her.

00:47:24.000 Put her in the state hospital.

00:47:25.000 She went through three months there.

00:47:27.000 Took her to San Antonio to another treatment center.

00:47:29.000 She went through three months there.

00:47:30.000 In the meantime, she's fighting, so she's getting taken down and restrained and drugged. 0.91

00:47:34.000 She doesn't want to be there.

00:47:34.000 They get a lawyer who's a friend of mine, and so now they're backing them off and they're going to let her come home, hopefully.

00:47:43.000 But she's on one of these antipsychotics, Risperdal.

00:47:48.000 She can barely keep her eyes open in the session with me.

00:47:54.000 It's happening.

00:47:55.000 It's very real.

00:47:56.000 And then they say, well, maybe we didn't handle this quite right.

00:48:00.000 We're going to send her home.

00:48:01.000 But we're not going to give you any support to deal with the fact that she's on these drugs and how do you get her off them and whatever.

00:48:08.000 They've got a certain set of doctors that work for them.

00:48:11.000 They're true believers.

00:48:12.000 That's what they do. 0.99

00:48:13.000 They drug kids because they have bad gene pools and weird brains. 0.92

00:48:19.000 And again, they're not geneticists. 0.92

00:48:20.000 They haven't looked at their brains.

00:48:22.000 I mean, it's just totally made up. 0.68

00:48:23.000 It's totally made up. 1.00

00:48:25.000 It's a belief system just like the belief system that said the Jews were unworthy of living and the gypsies and whoever else and we're going to kill them in the gas chambers. 1.00

00:48:33.000 It's the same belief system. 0.99

00:48:35.000 It's the same dynamic.

00:48:37.000 You deal with the so-called flotsam and jetsam of society, whoever you judge that to be, by that they're genetically defect.

00:48:45.000 It has nothing to do with the social structures that you're challenging and the economic structures that you're challenging.

00:48:50.000 So almost 75% are being drugged.

00:48:56.000 75% of the monies that are spent on prescription drugs for the kids in foster care is psych drugs.

00:49:06.000 It's unbelievable.

00:49:07.000 Okay, so let's go over this. 0.95

00:49:08.000 So they actually believe the majority of children they take from parents have bad brains.

00:49:13.000 It's not just the bad parent now, it's the child has a bad brain too.

00:49:16.000 I mean, who's really the abuser here?

00:49:19.000 Who's really the abuser?

00:49:21.000 The abuser is the person who sends the person who the child gets worse on under your hands.

00:49:28.000 And so, our CPS system, our foster care system, our state mental health system is institutional abusive because a very high percentage, whatever the statistic is, you know, and it's definitely over 50%, I think it's closer to three quarters of the kids are placed on psych drugs.

00:49:45.000 That means that they're going to leave Or be in worse shape, by definition, because they're on these drugs that are toxic, poisonous, and dangerous and do cause brain damage.

00:49:54.000 And that's apart from all the other things that the cop troller revealed and that you're talking about, like, called, you know, physical or sexual abuse, called neglect, called bad homes.

00:50:03.000 The things that we usually think of when we look at, you know, bad conditions in foster care, that's not even counting that.

00:50:10.000 Even if they get the greatest care and they're put on Risperdal or Zyprexa, they're still coming home in worse shape.

00:50:17.000 Well, and with most of these CPS cases, it's a poor family, something happens at school, they come out, quote, to talk to the family, see some dirty plates in the sink, they then take the children, and they go to a house with ten kids where the people are getting rich off of them, and the foster care people get a lot more money if they put the kid on drugs, and it's five times more likely to be abused or die or be beaten in their hands.

00:50:41.000 I mean, folks, that's just the numbers.

00:50:43.000 We're taking children from good homes, In most cases, and putting them into the hands of abusers.

00:50:50.000 And that's just the facts, people.

00:50:52.000 I mean, it just makes me want to cry.

00:50:54.000 Pull my hair out.

00:50:56.000 And this is only one facet of this new world order.

00:50:58.000 Dr. Breeding, stay with us.

00:51:00.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:05.000 I got We're back live, final segment with Dr. Breeding.

00:54:10.000 We're going to come back, go through the calls that are holding, then get Charlotte Isserby.

00:54:14.000 She was the former second command of the Reagan administration. 0.50

00:54:17.000 Department of Education.

00:54:19.000 We'll be talking about education, but also the National ID Card.

00:54:22.000 By the way, her dad was skull and bones.

00:54:24.000 You know that?

00:54:24.000 I might get her to talk about her dad's deathbed confession before he died.

00:54:30.000 She's done that before. 0.91

00:54:32.000 He repented.

00:54:33.000 Before he died, more courage than a lot of these people.

00:54:36.000 By the way, the criminal elite running this country, they're in power because they are ruthless and because they don't care about humanity.

00:54:43.000 This is kind of a blind spot in human activities in history.

00:54:47.000 General public means well, is gullible, doesn't understand the nature of the power elite.

00:54:53.000 And it's repeating itself again, and Dr. Brady to help stop these eugenics individuals who will rationalize no matter what evil they're involved in, the new freedom initiative to forcibly, psychologically test every child and then every adult. 0.93

00:55:06.000 You've now, I heard, got over 5,000 signatures since you put this up a month ago.

00:55:10.000 We need to double that.

00:55:12.000 I mean, every listener needs to go there and sign up for this petition right now and this declaration at wildestcolds.com.

00:55:19.000 They can also do it at ablechild.org.

00:55:23.000 And if you miss those websites, link through at infowars.com.

00:55:25.000 Just briefly, tell us about that.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, thanks Alex.

00:55:29.000 Yeah, we've got over 5,000 and it's growing and we need to get 10,000 and it's because it's getting some media attention and we're connecting with the Congressman Ron Paul who's fighting this thing in Washington and so we're building on that effort and that's a good thing.

00:55:45.000 So yeah, go to the websites and sign on.

00:55:47.000 You can read the statement.

00:55:48.000 You'll agree with it.

00:55:49.000 Sign on and lend your energy to taking a stand that says, I refuse.

00:55:54.000 I will not comply.

00:55:56.000 With any government mental health initiative to screen my children in the schools for alleged mental illness.

00:56:02.000 And the plan then says adults too by law and Illinois is about to do it for all women when they go in to have a child. 0.98

00:56:07.000 They're trying to fund pilot programs in different states and the one in Illinois starts with anybody who's pregnant.

00:56:14.000 You go in, send a social worker, you look for possible signs that the mother might be quote mentally ill.

00:56:21.000 We know what that means.

00:56:22.000 In this world, in this system that's driven by Big Pharma and has this eugenic belief system, that means that you get a psychotropic drug.

00:56:30.000 And again, folks, or they take your child. 0.94

00:56:33.000 Now, again, a criminal... Or they take your child, that's right.

00:56:35.000 A criminal gets due process.

00:56:38.000 Someone that he thinks committed an axe murder.

00:56:39.000 But now, by law, every time you go to have a child, beforehand, you're going to get these criminals, and that's what they are, coming after you, folks.

00:56:48.000 So, I mean, think about this.

00:56:49.000 This is like the KGB screening of the population.

00:56:53.000 This is it.

00:56:53.000 But, Dr. Breeding, when these doctors, and you've got their quotes and their names, you were there, when they went up and said, you know, These eugenics statements, their brains are wired wrong, bad gene pool, I mean did the committee members mouths hang open?

00:57:06.000 Did that actually backfire on these people?

00:57:08.000 Well one thing that happened is it just went quiet.

00:57:12.000 It was just really interesting and it just kind of went dead.

00:57:15.000 You know nobody said anything.

00:57:18.000 Some draws fell in the audience.

00:57:20.000 The legislators just kind of went stone faced.

00:57:25.000 So I hope it backfired.

00:57:26.000 We certainly followed it up with the clarification and the committee chair, Susanna Huff, was very receptive to that.

00:57:35.000 The chair of the Health and Human Services Committee was also very receptive to that.

00:57:38.000 He called me the next week and said, we're having another hearing.

00:57:42.000 We want you to come.

00:57:43.000 I couldn't go to that particular one.

00:57:46.000 But they are receptive to the counter-information.

00:57:48.000 You know, they are receptive to the message that says, you know, here's the truth about where the research is on that.

00:57:56.000 Here's the fact that that's a made-up statement.

00:57:58.000 And we're offended, you know, because what we're talking about is our children, and they're just saying, you can wash your hands because they're just genetic defects anyway, and just keep giving us more money to drug them.

00:58:09.000 I mean, that's an amazing... I've got to go, Alex, this time.

00:58:11.000 I look forward to coming back with you again and doing a longer segment.

00:58:15.000 I really appreciate you having me on.

00:58:17.000 And keep up the good work, okay?

00:58:19.000 Dr. Breeden, God bless you, and take care, my friend.

00:58:21.000 Okay, thanks.

00:58:22.000 Talk to you soon.

00:58:23.000 Take care.

00:58:23.000 Those are the type of Republicans we need, by the way.

00:58:26.000 Ron Paul's helping.

00:58:27.000 Susanna Hupp's helping, state rep.

00:58:30.000 Republican.

00:58:31.000 And I was going to get to it, but we didn't have time.

00:58:33.000 I mean, it's the Democrats and the neocons everywhere pushing this.

00:58:37.000 And, uh, you know, I vote Republican, and I do vote for Republicans like that, but most Republicans are actually some of the worst people out there promoting this, along with the Democrats.

00:58:46.000 Very, very serious.

00:58:47.000 We'll be back with your calls in the Charlotte, Iserby.

00:58:48.000 Kirby, stay with us.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 All right, my friends, we're now into hour number two of this Live Friday edition we just had Dr. John Breeding on, who was at the committee hearings a few weeks ago here in Texas, where the Doctors, psychiatrists for the pharma came up and said, well, the reason that more than half of the children in foster care are drugged with anti-psychotics and other drugs is because they're mental defects.

00:59:39.000 They have bad genetics.

00:59:40.000 They have a bad gene pool.

00:59:42.000 Total eugenics. 0.99

00:59:43.000 Now, coming up in a few minutes, we're going to take some calls first.

00:59:46.000 This is Charlotte Isserby, number two position, Department of Education, under Ronald Reagan.

00:59:50.000 Talk about education, the national ID card, all of it.

00:59:53.000 She's done some detailed analysis of some of the police state developments.

00:59:57.000 And then, of course, we've got Declan McCullough in the third hour, CNET News, to talk about the National ID Card as well.

01:00:03.000 We'll also get into how they've all geared up for martial law across the country.

01:00:06.000 A lot of really serious issues there.

01:00:10.000 But right now, let's go to Anne in Texas.

01:00:12.000 Annie in Texas.

01:00:13.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

01:00:16.000 Hello, Annie.

01:00:17.000 Hello.

01:00:17.000 Yes.

01:00:18.000 Can you hear me?

01:00:19.000 Yes, we can.

01:00:20.000 I was wondering, but you had a show on a while back about Mercury poisoning?

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01:00:30.000 I wanted to order it.

01:00:33.000 Okay, well I've made 11 videos myself and they get into the vaccine some in two of the videos but mainly the information about the vaccines is in the vaccine section on PrisonPlanet.com Prison?

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01:00:52.000 Planet.com.

01:00:53.000 Okay.

01:00:54.000 And then I did have a comment about what was just discussed.

01:01:02.000 Yes.

01:01:03.000 And I have a major in biology and I have a master's in education.

01:01:10.000 I taught school for a while.

01:01:11.000 And I just wanted to comment that I don't believe drugs is the answer to the problem children.

01:01:19.000 But I also want to say that The way a person is, is a combination of their genetics and the environment.

01:01:27.000 Yeah, nature nurture.

01:01:30.000 The environment they now believe is generally a factor.

01:01:35.000 But I want to comment that after teaching school, I can see that the schools have become a bad influence.

01:01:48.000 Well, through other students, and because they've taken God out of the schools, and they're promoting things in there such as Captain Underwear, where there's a total disrespect of authority for the principal.

01:02:05.000 It's books, you know, and the Harry Potter books, where they practice a cult, teach the kids to do a cult, and it opens them up, I believe, to demon invasion.

01:02:17.000 And I really believe that acceptance of Jesus is the answer to the change and to not force these kids.

01:02:27.000 The school system... Oh, they've got statistics that about 90% of the time getting a young person into a good church fixes them.

01:02:35.000 But instead we go, here, we'll just take you from your parents because you were hyperactive, we'll put you on a bunch of drugs and screw you up.

01:02:41.000 How's that sound?

01:02:42.000 I mean, how can they claim that more than half the children in foster care need to be on drugs because they're, quote, mentally defective when there's been no medical test, no nothing.

01:02:50.000 They just say it and put them on drugs.

01:02:52.000 I mean, it's pure evil.

01:02:53.000 Thanks for the call.

01:02:54.000 I do appreciate your comments, Anne, and we'll get to Regina and Mark and Patrick and everybody else too, so stay with us.

01:03:02.000 And there's so many other news items here.

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01:03:08.000 I mean, that's what it's trading at.

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01:03:17.000 A bunch of news about biometrics and the National ID Card coming up.

01:03:21.000 We now learned why the IndyMedia sites, 20 of them, got taken down by a foreign government! 0.99

01:03:26.000 Italian government says seize those websites.

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01:07:18.000 Welcome, my friends.

01:07:19.000 We are now 8 minutes and 30 seconds into this second hour as we broadcast against tyranny.

01:07:27.000 Charlotte Isserby, Former Deputy Head, Number 2 Position, Department of Education, joining us, expert on the new world order to talk about the National ID Card, the New Freedom Initiative, the government saying there's impending terror attacks, all of it's coming up.

01:07:40.000 But since you've been holding so long, let's go to these three callers that have been holding the longest, Regina, Mark, and Patrick first.

01:07:47.000 Regina in Pennsylvania, you're on the air.

01:07:49.000 Hi, Alex.

01:07:50.000 I wanted to say that everything that I heard that man said about eugenics connects to UNESCO, and I just want to maybe put a little plug in here.

01:07:59.000 Bill Moyers now is on tonight on PBS, and he's going to have the third-party candidates, including Michael Peruca, at 9 p.m. tonight.

01:08:07.000 I think this is very important because I heard the lady before us talking about under God but I don't hear people saying that Mr. Bush who spoke so highly that he's such a wonderful Christian man that wants to save the world.

01:08:18.000 I don't see that in my constitution.

01:08:20.000 It's basically following UNESCO.

01:08:22.000 UNESCO is what's driving the policy in the public schools and as I see it... Well, let me just say this.

01:08:27.000 Let me just say this again.

01:08:28.000 The United Nations Educational and Cultural Organization runs everything from our national parks...

01:08:34.000 To the Statue of Liberty under World Heritage and World Biosphere sites.

01:08:39.000 They set our education policy.

01:08:41.000 They want the forced psychological testing.

01:08:43.000 The forced inoculations.

01:08:45.000 New Freedom Initiative is a handbook for them.

01:08:48.000 And yes, Bush signed back onto that.

01:08:50.000 Bush said, God guides him.

01:08:52.000 Well, what God is that, Mr. Bush?

01:08:54.000 And Kerry said he shares that same faith.

01:08:57.000 You mean that skull and bones faith?

01:08:59.000 Right.

01:08:59.000 What under God are we referring to?

01:09:01.000 Because my God is Jesus Christ and I just encourage people to pick up on that and pray for us.

01:09:07.000 What we have going on up here in Pennsylvania is the prominent pro-life group.

01:09:12.000 I have totally ignored Michael Peruca and Chuck Baldwin.

01:09:15.000 So, you know, we have to get together.

01:09:16.000 I sent you some information on... And it's driving me crazy!

01:09:19.000 I know Chuck Baldwin listens to this show and is running, mate.

01:09:22.000 I want both those guys on the show next week.

01:09:24.000 Okay, well, please do that, but right now we can see them and pray about it for tonight, but hopefully this will not be preempted as it was last week by the main party debates.

01:09:33.000 I want to tell you too, Alex, I sent you some stuff on Children of God for Life and the fetal tissue cells in the vaccinations, if we could get the information out.

01:09:42.000 Some of these so-called pro-life people, and I don't want to be derogatory, but When I see the acceptance of Bush and the total disregard for life when we have fetal tissue cells, human fetal tissue cells, in our vaccinations... Now, I hear you.

01:09:55.000 Regina, I've got to go, though.

01:09:56.000 Thank you for the call.

01:09:57.000 No, you're right.

01:09:58.000 And, you know, if these pro-lifers knew this, they'd be against it.

01:10:01.000 And I totally agree with you.

01:10:02.000 But look, the reason she brought up eugenics last hour, in a state hearing here a few weeks ago, Dr. Breeding was there, it was in the news, they said, we're drugging over half the children because they're mentally ill, they're genetically defective, they're subhuman.

01:10:16.000 They said they're mentally defective, they have bad brains, okay? 0.99

01:10:19.000 They're saying they're subhuman. 0.99

01:10:21.000 Eugenics, folks. 0.96

01:10:22.000 Real quick, because our guest is holding.

01:10:24.000 Mark in Kentucky.

01:10:25.000 Go ahead, Mark.

01:10:26.000 Yeah, Alex.

01:10:27.000 Great program, and I really appreciate having access on the internet to GCN.

01:10:33.000 I'm just so upset at the fraud and brainwashing going on by our, what's supposed to be the free press, corporate press.

01:10:40.000 I'm a communications-degreed individual, and I'm ashamed.

01:10:43.000 I won't work for the industry.

01:10:45.000 Did you notice in the Austin Chronicle the mention of Badnerik as a write-in in the endorsement for Kerry?

01:10:53.000 Is that not a blast?

01:10:56.000 It's amazing.

01:10:57.000 So you're reading the Austin Chronicle from Kentucky?

01:11:00.000 Well, on the Badnerik listservs we circulate a lot of stuff and try to attack where there's fraud throughout the system, mostly on the internet but also just in the straight press.

01:11:11.000 The Chronicle's a real piece of work.

01:11:14.000 Right now I'm taking advantage, I've got to get out the door in a minute, but our local ABC affiliate has given the candidates a three-minute freebie.

01:11:23.000 And last February we had a special election and they censored a part where I was trying to draw a connection between Abraham Lincoln's assassination and John F. Kennedy's and their difficulties with the banking industry.

01:11:36.000 And I thought, well, okay, that is a little bit of reading between the lines and conjecture.

01:11:41.000 But right now they're wanting to censor me again relative to my statements about misapplication of our tax codes, which probably they're not directly going against, but I think they're not happy with me saying that we have clear research suggesting government foreknowledge in 9-11, and also, if at the least, government complicity at the worst.

01:12:03.000 I guess I'm going to have to go tackle that issue with the producer in a few minutes.

01:12:08.000 All right, good to hear from you.

01:12:09.000 I appreciate the call, Mark.

01:12:10.000 You keep it up.

01:12:11.000 Last call quickly.

01:12:12.000 Patrick in Texas, go ahead.

01:12:14.000 Yes, Alex, I am in Lille and I have seen them get paid off a little treat to get the new drugs pushed on.

01:12:21.000 I've been beaten for refusing medication and it's no different than a drug dealer.

01:12:29.000 I believe they know it.

01:12:30.000 I believe they just love the money because it's an easy job.

01:12:33.000 It's a crime scene.

01:12:35.000 Well, they give them again $50,000 bonuses, all expense, luxury cruises.

01:12:40.000 How do they say half the foster children need to be on drugs and it's over that number?

01:12:44.000 I mean, how do they come up with... I mean, that's so obviously ridiculous. 0.99

01:12:48.000 He has the money. 0.97

01:12:49.000 I believe he has the money.

01:12:51.000 Thanks for the call, Patrick.

01:12:53.000 Alright, let's bring her up. 1.00

01:12:54.000 She's Charlotte Isserby, and we'll tell you about her website and her phone book-sized book, Deliberate Dumbing Down of America.

01:13:00.000 She's here to talk about a whole host of issues.

01:13:02.000 Charlotte, it's great to have you on with us.

01:13:04.000 Why don't you, in a kind of a synopsis, tell folks about yourself.

01:13:09.000 Well, I've been around a while.

01:13:12.000 I arrived back in the United States in the early 70s from 18 years overseas.

01:13:17.000 And put my children in the public school system.

01:13:20.000 Had hysterics.

01:13:21.000 Ran for school board.

01:13:23.000 Saw everything coming down the pike. 0.96

01:13:26.000 Formed an organization in Maine to try to get back to basics.

01:13:30.000 Did a lot of work so the White House finally selected me to go down with others that were selected as well because they were activists from all over the country.

01:13:38.000 The Reagan White House selected us to go down to get rid of the Department of Education, which of course never happened.

01:13:44.000 Because it wasn't meant to be that way, but I got so upset that I started leaking documents, granted contracts going all over the world, and I got fired.

01:13:54.000 But before leaking the documents, I got all marvelous documents out.

01:13:59.000 And a lot of them are in my book.

01:14:01.000 The incriminating treasonous documents.

01:14:06.000 As you were talking earlier, all out of the UN.

01:14:09.000 Every education system in the world is controlled by the UN.

01:14:12.000 And now Bush is signed back on to UNESCO.

01:14:15.000 Absolutely.

01:14:17.000 Did you hear me going over the quotes by the people for the state pushing forced drugging of all these children? 0.88

01:14:23.000 They say the children are basically, you know, the mentally inept or that they have bad brains and that's why we're putting them all on drugs. 0.71

01:14:32.000 I didn't hear that but you know after being in the public school system for a while it's natural that they would have mush in their head. 0.95

01:14:39.000 That's the least dangerous, the mush, but the brainwashing is even more dangerous.

01:14:44.000 So now we have a school system and a system that's destroyed our children, so now they're going to get even more power out of the crisis that they created.

01:14:52.000 Let's, in a nutshell, the New Freedom Initiative, tell folks about that.

01:14:57.000 Well, that's the Sweeping Mental Health Initiative.

01:15:00.000 Oh, I love it.

01:15:01.000 The semantics here are like George Orwell, right?

01:15:04.000 Like the Patriot Act, huh?

01:15:05.000 The New Freedom Initiative.

01:15:07.000 Well, folks, you're free to have the federal government screen you for your mental illnesses.

01:15:12.000 And, you know, if you listen to Alex Jones or Scarlett Isherby, you might be considered mentally ill and you might get screened.

01:15:18.000 All Americans are going to be screened for mental deficiencies.

01:15:22.000 Doesn't this sound sort of like something that happened in the late 30s and, you know, in 1917, etc.? ?

01:15:30.000 Okay, Ljubljana prison, Solzhenitsyn, you know, the electric shock, etc.

01:15:36.000 That's what George Bush, the good conservative Christian candidate for president, has got for us down the pike.

01:15:43.000 It's coming very fast, actually.

01:15:46.000 You know, they always set up a commission first.

01:15:48.000 And then they do all their dirty work, and then they stamp it with a beautiful gold stamp, and then they present it to the Congress, and then boom, it goes right through.

01:15:55.000 Well, ten states have already implemented it.

01:15:58.000 That's right.

01:15:58.000 Illinois has got it.

01:16:00.000 And of course the drug companies, and the involvement of the drug companies with the Bush family and all is unbelievable.

01:16:08.000 I've got a marvelous email right here from the British Medical Journal.

01:16:13.000 You'd have to go to the British to get the truth on it, although they often don't tell the truth, but Bush plans to screen all U.S.

01:16:19.000 students for mental illness, British Medical Journal, and then it goes into the fact that it's not just going to be students, it's going to be all of us.

01:16:26.000 But I'm sure, Alex, that you've got all of this on your website, and I just think and I hope that the American people by this time realize that when they see words like freedom and patriot and security and all these words, they understand that it's just the opposite.

01:16:41.000 Well it certainly is, but we got you on today specifically to talk about the National ID Card.

01:16:47.000 They've got two bills.

01:16:48.000 David Dreyer has introduced one, but the other one is part of this new Super Patriot Act bill that's already passed the House and the Senate and it's in the Conference Committee. 0.67

01:16:56.000 This sucker is the end-all be-all of police state.

01:16:59.000 Tell us about it. 0.99

01:17:00.000 Yeah, it is.

01:17:01.000 And what's very interesting is that our elected officials are supposed to represent us, I have been stonewalling constituents who've asked whether it is actually true, we know it's true because we've been working on it for 18 months, that the Bush administration hired two former ex-Russian, Soviet, brutal KGB chiefs to design an internal passport for Americans.

01:17:31.000 And when I first wrote about it, I had everybody jumping on me and saying, oh, that can't be true at all.

01:17:36.000 You know, so now I know it is true, and my Senator Snow, Olympia Snow, and Senator Collins is very involved in this, involved in the bill you were just referring to, as well, and we have been unable, with Snow, 17 months I've been trying to get an appointment, written about 10 letters, 20 emails, been to her Portland office, been stonewalled this length of time, gotten absolutely nowhere, and gotten nowhere with Senator Collins, and then finally, you know, the truth will out!

01:18:05.000 A little bit late, right?

01:18:07.000 The truth outed when H.R.

01:18:09.000 10 was passed.

01:18:10.000 And we've got the specific wording there.

01:18:14.000 That we're going to have, and it's going to be put into the driver's... For those who don't understand, we knew about this two years ago, now it's mainstream news.

01:18:21.000 They really have hired Primakov and former heads of the KGB to help design this.

01:18:25.000 I mean, you couldn't write a book, a fiction novel, this crazy.

01:18:29.000 No one would believe it, Charlotte.

01:18:31.000 Well, not only has Primakov been hired, and Karpov, but former KGB types have been hired by the Bush administration and many conservative organizations.

01:18:43.000 To consult in this country.

01:18:45.000 What you're looking at, Alex, is what I've said all along, but I never dreamt it would get to this point.

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01:22:53.000 Look, they've got their electronic voting machines in place over a lot of the country and up to swing any election, any local election.

01:23:09.000 So now the oil's $55 a gallon, a barrel.

01:23:13.000 They're taking your freedoms.

01:23:16.000 They're setting up a police state.

01:23:17.000 They're getting rid of the borders.

01:23:19.000 They're doing it all.

01:23:21.000 And they're mass drugging the children.

01:23:24.000 They're just taking over.

01:23:26.000 And yes, it's true.

01:23:28.000 Bush, as he looked at Putin's soul, saw his soul.

01:23:31.000 It's a man he can trust.

01:23:33.000 Putin's carrying out his own terror attacks for a police state.

01:23:36.000 Russia's merging with NATO. 0.95

01:23:38.000 They're good little thugs like the Globalist are. 0.99

01:23:41.000 They go out and do the most outlandish things. 0.86

01:23:43.000 Hire Soviets, former Soviets, to come over and consult about how to have a police state in America. 0.97

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01:23:52.000 I mean, look at how far we've gone. 0.89

01:23:54.000 The average cop out there listening, do you think all this is normal?

01:23:58.000 Charlotte Isserby, former number two position, Department of Education, during the Reagan administration.

01:24:05.000 Charlotte, continuing with this whole national ID card, I mean, we've gone over it with Larry Pratt, subsection by subsection, but you'll have to have this to have a job!

01:24:14.000 Homeland Security will decide if you can even have a job anywhere.

01:24:17.000 You're going to have color coding built into the digital database.

01:24:22.000 What else do you think is important about this national ID card?

01:24:26.000 Well, I think that everything that you've ever done, if you've ever written, probably ever written an email that was opposed to George Bush, if you've had a medical problem or depression or whatever, they can take whatever information they want, regardless of how solid it is, and use it against you to stop you from traveling wherever you want to go.

01:24:47.000 I mean, the right to travel is a basic freedom in any country, basically.

01:24:53.000 But this is exactly what they're implementing, and I think that the groups, the American Civil Liberties Union, some conservative groups, etc., I think there were 30 of them that were opposed.

01:25:05.000 To this particular legislation and they didn't pay any attention to it, but that makes a lot of sense to me.

01:25:11.000 I could have told those groups because I have been for 18 months trying to find out why the Bush administration hired Saddam Hussein's closest associate, Primakov, to design this internal passport for DARPA The Office of Information Awareness.

01:25:28.000 I have had nothing but stonewalling. 0.99

01:25:31.000 And of course, there were Americans out there, which really bothered me, Alex, they were supposedly our good friends, who got mad at me for writing these articles that I wrote and said, you don't have the proof, blah blah blah blah.

01:25:43.000 You know, I knew I did, because when it takes 18 months to get an... I never got an answer, right?

01:25:49.000 I got my answer finally when these very people had accomplished their evil doings, which was last week.

01:25:57.000 But I could not... I mean, if the American people had jumped on the bandwagon with me 18 months ago on this issue, Well, who knows?

01:26:05.000 I don't think it would have made any difference, really, would it?

01:26:11.000 Charlotte, to be clear here, what's happened is the Caps 2 system, bad credit, divorces, political statements, left and right, you suddenly can't fly.

01:26:22.000 Now they say it's to have a car, drive a bus, food service, agriculture, and then it's going to be any infrastructure protection, you're not going to be able to have a job.

01:26:32.000 And they say it's going to be hundreds of public and private databases full of all those mistakes as well, integrated.

01:26:38.000 Now, the danger of a national ID card was always that they do something just like this with it, and out of the gates they say, yeah, we're going to have one, and we're going to do all these draconian things with it out of the gates.

01:26:50.000 They just don't care.

01:26:51.000 They are in your face.

01:26:54.000 They've got it made.

01:26:55.000 They've done it.

01:26:56.000 If the American people don't recognize us right now... Look, Alex, I'm going to come right out now and say something.

01:27:04.000 We don't have much time left.

01:27:05.000 You know that.

01:27:06.000 My recommendation is really weird.

01:27:09.000 I recommend that we get Carrie in there. 1.00

01:27:12.000 Because he's going to be, if possible, because they're both skull and bones, they've got the same agenda, but if possible, he's going to be so bad that the conservative Christians who let George Bush do anything he wants, no matter what, they get after Kerry for it, right?

01:27:30.000 We may be able to save this country by having someone so rotten in there, like Kerry, that those Christian conservatives who allow George Bush to get away with anything that Kerry might do, are going to get off their dust, wake up, and try to bring this country back to where it came from.

01:27:47.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

01:27:48.000 I have said the exact same thing, because your father was skull and bones.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, my grandpa too.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, and we'll talk later about what your father said to you on his deathbed.

01:27:59.000 But before we do that, I mean, you know, you work for Ronald Reagan.

01:28:02.000 You're a real conservative.

01:28:05.000 And you found out the truth of what was going on.

01:28:07.000 You and others were instrumental in getting Reagan to pull out of UNESCO, which Bush now has signed us back onto.

01:28:12.000 But the point here is this.

01:28:15.000 Conservatives are totally asleep while Bush butchers this country.

01:28:19.000 That's right.

01:28:20.000 And yes, if Kerry gets in there, finally they will start waking up.

01:28:25.000 I'm so glad you feel that way, Alex.

01:28:27.000 I do, and I've had a lot of opposition from good friends of mine.

01:28:30.000 They think I'm wrong, but I know I'm not.

01:28:33.000 I'll tell you one thing.

01:28:34.000 About 20 years ago, when Reagan got elected, I remember saying to Tom Winner, the editor of Human Events... Tell you what, stay there.

01:28:41.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

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01:31:52.000 We're talking to Charlotte Israbee, and we told you years ago that they were already setting up the state driver's license under federal parameters.

01:32:14.000 as a national ID card.

01:32:17.000 I got the documents on that nine years ago, when they started thumb scanning here in Texas.

01:32:23.000 Actually, ten years ago.

01:32:25.000 Wow.

01:32:26.000 Ninety-three.

01:32:29.000 And now there's, what, two states that haven't put in thumb scanning or face scanning that digital photo.

01:32:34.000 And under this law, they'll have to do it, too.

01:32:36.000 And then you'll have to have this to have a job.

01:32:37.000 And I saw Ridge on TV on C-SPAN two years ago say, you're going to have to have this to have a job.

01:32:42.000 It's for security, infrastructure protection, any job.

01:32:46.000 And now they're saying in this bill, well, it's going to start with these hundreds of industries that we list.

01:32:51.000 Any factory, any bus driver, any taxi driver, any food service, anything, basically.

01:32:59.000 You're gonna have to have it, and now they call it a National ID Card, and it's been introduced in two different bills, and it is the classic Soviet slash Nazi National ID Card. 0.57

01:33:10.000 By the way, they're billing it to stop illegal aliens, but I've had... I've read the bill, I've had the experts on it, it actually gives a waiver to all the illegals! 0.97

01:33:18.000 They don't have to do it!

01:33:19.000 We accept all their matricula cards!

01:33:23.000 So it's a sick joke on all of us, and It's so painful to watch our country being dismantled.

01:33:29.000 We'll talk more to Charlotte Isserby here in just a minute or two, and then we'll go to your calls.

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01:35:37.000 It's deliberate, dumbing, D-U-M-B-I-N-G, down. 1.00

01:35:44.000 The three words together. 0.76

01:35:45.000 Deliberate, dumbing, down.

01:35:48.000 dot com and on my website you'll find all my articles too which helps of the background for everything that I ever stay on radio but the latest article I've written is the one that you saw it called you know a tongue your passport bita my husband loved that he added the bitter which means please in German and I've written that article which is probably the last article I will write on this subject I've done

01:36:15.000 This is my fourth one since I became concerned 18 months ago finding out that the Bush administration actually had hired these guys to be involved with the CAPS program and the citizen security card.

01:36:31.000 uh... state security card it's frightening and uh... all the documentation in regard to this issue is on my website including the latest issue but uh... it's called and also let me go back to uh... my suggestion earlier that i'm not suggesting you vote for john kerry nobody could do that with a clear conscience but vote for michael perotka because he certainly does stand for everything that any good christian constitutionalist american stands for

01:37:01.000 You know, have a moral vote, vote for Michael Perutka, and know that what you've done is moral.

01:37:08.000 Now, I don't want to get too much into Skull & Bones here today, because I want to get more into the National ID Card and People's Calls.

01:37:14.000 And by the way, this new bill just doesn't have the National ID Card.

01:37:17.000 It has all of Patriot Act II and more, and it has funding for the Total Information Awareness Network.

01:37:23.000 I mean, it's all there, folks, but before we go any further, let's talk about Skull & Bones.

01:37:27.000 I mean, it's clear that Bush and Kerry are staging this whole thing.

01:37:31.000 This is a staged event, but I wanted to talk about what Skull & Bones is.

01:37:35.000 I mean, this thing was set up in 1832.

01:37:39.000 It's very secretive.

01:37:41.000 It's an offshoot, then out into Bohemian Grove, which your dad had said that he'd been to.

01:37:45.000 Your father, on his deathbed, and before he died of cancer, told you about some of this.

01:37:51.000 And again, your father, your grandfather, were both members of this, and so you're really a family on the inside of this.

01:37:56.000 For listeners out there, can you discuss what your father said?

01:38:00.000 Well, no, you know, Dad never really discussed much of it, except, I guess I forced him into it once when I said I was working on the Child Abuse in the Classroom book that I wrote with Phyllis Schlafly, and we were discussing... He heard these conversations for six months.

01:38:17.000 He was in bed.

01:38:18.000 And then one day he said to me, uh, what's wrong with world government?

01:38:22.000 This came out.

01:38:23.000 Because up until that time, he had never discussed any of this stuff with me.

01:38:26.000 It's very secret.

01:38:27.000 I did know all of his skull and bones friends, and they were all in his wedding, and he saw them all, you know, through the years, until he died.

01:38:34.000 They were his friends.

01:38:36.000 I want to point out that only about three in each class really go on to being very important movers and shakers worldwide, and my dad never was one of them.

01:38:44.000 But anyway, he finally said, I said to him, what are you talking about?

01:38:47.000 What's wrong with world government?

01:38:49.000 I said, whose constitution?

01:38:52.000 And he said, Oh, well, we'll take care of that later when it comes about.

01:38:56.000 And I said, Huh?

01:38:58.000 You know, well, about five months later, after he continued to hear us talking on the phone like this, a week before he died, he looked at me and he said, Char, if I had more time, I'd help you.

01:39:10.000 But he had been conditioned from 1924 when he graduated to 1985 when he died.

01:39:17.000 And they continue to condition them because they meet all the time.

01:39:20.000 It's sort of like the teacher is always having to go for in-service training.

01:39:24.000 And they can't let them alone, because the human spirit and the human mind rebels against brainwashing.

01:39:30.000 So they've got to keep doing it, doing it, doing it.

01:39:32.000 Now, I'm going from memory, Charlotte Isserby, former deputy head of the Department of Education under Ronald Reagan, the first administration.

01:39:40.000 But I think the last time we talked, though, he said a little bit more, though, about Bohemian Grove.

01:39:46.000 Oh, yeah, no, he did go.

01:39:47.000 He was invited to go to Bohemian Grove.

01:39:49.000 Yeah, but you said he made some comments about it.

01:39:51.000 Oh, yeah, he didn't like it.

01:39:52.000 He was there for two weeks.

01:39:54.000 And I was amazed it went on for two weeks.

01:39:57.000 But anyway, I found some of his letters to my mom in regard to it, and he said that the lectures and all were very interesting, but he didn't like the atmosphere, and that he would never go back again.

01:40:09.000 And he was not happy.

01:40:10.000 But you have to remember, my dad was not that type at all.

01:40:13.000 I mean, he was not an elitist.

01:40:16.000 He was basically a very wonderful guy who wouldn't charge legal fees for someone, you know, who was hard up.

01:40:23.000 And he was an elected official at the local level.

01:40:27.000 He was a New York lawyer.

01:40:29.000 He always told me he wished he'd been a farmer.

01:40:31.000 So he really, you know, Thoreau was his hero.

01:40:35.000 And so all of these activities really did not... I feel sorry for my dad that he ever even got tapped by Skull and Bone.

01:40:42.000 But you know what?

01:40:43.000 But you said there at the end, the week before he died, because you're there taking care of him like a good daughter, he said, he said, Char, I wish I was still going to be here because I want to help you.

01:40:52.000 That's right.

01:40:53.000 And that shows that this can happen with these people.

01:40:57.000 And you have to point out that a lot of these people, like my father, are perfectly good people, and they're very good Americans, and they believe that they are constitutionalists, and they can tell me, or you, sort of dumb things like my brilliant father, what's wrong with world government?

01:41:13.000 Because they're not thinking straight.

01:41:14.000 Well, it's the peer pressure.

01:41:16.000 That's right, Alex, but it's also conditioning, because with conditioning, there's no thinking going on.

01:41:22.000 They're not able to make connections.

01:41:24.000 The Americans can't make connections anymore, you know that. 1.00

01:41:27.000 They're conditioned to believe one thing, you try to tell them something else, and they look at you like, are you off this planet?

01:41:34.000 Because they can't connect this Driver's license, for instance, excuse me, internal security, passport, whatever.

01:41:42.000 They can't connect that with next year when they want to, you know, move from Massachusetts to Rhode Island.

01:41:50.000 And they get stopped because something's wrong with their car.

01:41:53.000 They can't connect it when they have to present and see what happens.

01:41:56.000 They say, sorry, hey, wait a minute, I'm sorry, there's something on your record.

01:42:00.000 They can't make that connection, and that's because they've been conditioned.

01:42:03.000 And not only on this issue, on every single issue, talk to these pathetic neighbors or Americans that we all love and we wish would understand that they're about to lose the most important thing in the world, which is freedom. 0.79

01:42:15.000 They cannot make that connection because they have been conditioned. 0.90

01:42:20.000 My dad could not make that connection.

01:42:23.000 He said to me, what's wrong with world government?

01:42:26.000 And I said, Whose constitution?

01:42:29.000 He's a lawyer!

01:42:32.000 He's an elected official, a mayor!

01:42:35.000 Whose constitution?

01:42:36.000 He hadn't made that connection!

01:42:39.000 Well, Charlotte, yeah, and a lot of these people also were in denial.

01:42:42.000 Subconsciously, they know the truth, but again, your father at the end said, you know, you're right.

01:42:46.000 But, but, but backing away from this for a second, anything else from these letters?

01:42:50.000 Anything else you got from Skull and Bones?

01:42:53.000 No, not really, Alex.

01:42:54.000 I'd love to be able to give you more, but I'll tell you one thing.

01:42:56.000 The food was evidently absolutely delicious, and the drink was delicious, and they all stayed in these absolutely elegant little log cabins.

01:43:05.000 Yeah, I've been there.

01:43:07.000 There were very amusing shows that went on.

01:43:10.000 I didn't read about any of the outrageous things that I do know go on.

01:43:15.000 But your dad said that he didn't like it.

01:43:17.000 No, he never wanted to go back.

01:43:18.000 I think the quote from two years ago was, it's horrible or something.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, well, weird.

01:43:23.000 Yeah.

01:43:24.000 Well, Richard Nixon did a Harper's interview that never got published, but there were rumors of it.

01:43:29.000 Now the tape's been released by the Nixon Museum, and he actually called it the most horrible, geedy, faggy thing he'd ever seen. 0.55

01:43:41.000 Well, you know what?

01:43:42.000 I have a feeling that My dad may have said that, but at the time, back then, I didn't really understand how much the political people, the insiders, were into that sort of thing.

01:43:54.000 I think dad did make a comment to that effect.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, and I know it's hard to talk about this stuff.

01:44:00.000 No, I don't mind at all, and as you know, I'm the one that gave the list to Tony Sutton.

01:44:06.000 I mean, I did that.

01:44:07.000 I felt like a real traitor to my dad.

01:44:09.000 I had the books, and it was only through those lists that dear Tony, my good friend, the late Tony Sutton, that the information ever got out, which enabled Tony, he threw the list, the membership list, out on the table, and he looked at them, and he told me, he said, It was then that I was able to make the connections and to understand who was behind all the wars, the Russian Revolution, etc.

01:44:35.000 He said, I saw the family names.

01:44:37.000 And he said it was amazing because for years, Tony had been writing on our assistance to the Soviet Union, Wall Street and Hitler and all these folks, right?

01:44:45.000 And he said it always in his mind, he thought, why are we doing this?

01:44:50.000 And when he saw the names, the list, which happened to arrive in the mail, My poor dad, he was sick in bed and couldn't open the mail.

01:44:58.000 And they arrived and I saw the little black books.

01:45:02.000 And Tony asked me if I would lend them to him and I didn't.

01:45:06.000 He FedExed them back to me immediately.

01:45:09.000 But that's how he was, I don't know about other people, but that is how Tony came to understand The very seriousness of the situation with these elite families.

01:45:22.000 I want to go to some calls here in just a moment, but does Charlotte, skull and bones, knowing how it operates, how they swear allegiance to the organization, I mean, do you think when Bush and Kerry, it's a totally staged election, I mean, it's an inside deal?

01:45:35.000 It's got to be, because how could this country with 240 million people end up with two guys running against each other?

01:45:43.000 What a joke!

01:45:46.000 Yeah, well, and now we know they're cousins, too.

01:45:52.000 Let's go ahead and take a call.

01:45:54.000 Let's talk to Todd in Florida.

01:45:56.000 Todd, you're on the air.

01:45:57.000 Go ahead.

01:45:58.000 Hi, thanks to both of you for the work that you do.

01:46:01.000 I guess as far as dumbing down the country, to what degree does that help this tacit acceptance of all technology?

01:46:09.000 Is it that intricate or is it just kind of accidental that now As people are less discerning, they're also inherently accepting all technology.

01:46:17.000 Well, I would say accepting all these bad applications of the technology.

01:46:21.000 Technology is like a gun.

01:46:22.000 You know, it's inanimate.

01:46:23.000 It's how it's used.

01:46:24.000 Charlotte?

01:46:25.000 Well, the use of technology in the curriculum, certainly K-12, I deal with that a lot in my book, right?

01:46:31.000 The plans were made in 1981 under Reagan to have a computer for every child.

01:46:37.000 They said we can afford that.

01:46:39.000 Basically, that kind of technology was set up because they've got to put in the school-to-work agenda.

01:46:46.000 And that allows standardization, total federal centralization.

01:46:49.000 Absolutely.

01:46:50.000 It is so simple.

01:46:52.000 Management by objective, the planning programming system, total quality management.

01:46:57.000 All of which is basically based on measuring.

01:47:00.000 And when you see the word measure, it may look like an innocent word.

01:47:04.000 It's not.

01:47:05.000 That is Pavlov.

01:47:06.000 Because you've got to be able to measure.

01:47:08.000 And only through conditioning, brainwashing, the use of Pavlov, can you actually measure.

01:47:16.000 You know, the human soul can't be measured, can it?

01:47:19.000 But you can measure performance.

01:47:21.000 But you can't measure what a person... And every time the numbers come out, they've dumbed them down even more.

01:47:26.000 They go, good job, here's more funding.

01:47:27.000 Exactly!

01:47:28.000 They, they at the top, we think that they're upset when the test scores go down.

01:47:32.000 No, they're thrilled, because that's the goal.

01:47:35.000 The goal is an absolutely illiterate society.

01:47:38.000 I always say, they could not have put this system, it changed our whole restructure, restructuring our system.

01:47:45.000 to the Soviet system unless we were dumbed down to the extent we didn't know the form of government.

01:47:50.000 Let me add something to this.

01:47:52.000 I don't want to give him a plug, but I was in the car, listened to 30 minutes of Sean Hannity yesterday, and he thought it was real funny.

01:47:59.000 He sent Flipper out, one of their little correspondents, with a cell phone to the mall, and they talked to about eight different women, and none of them knew who the vice presidential candidates were.

01:48:09.000 None of them knew anything, and he thought this was real funny. 0.89

01:48:13.000 This was very celebratory, uh, that people didn't know their head from a hole in the ground, but it's the same thing with the conservatives, maybe one step up, the neocon followers, you know, they've got all their opinions because they think, oh, look at all the dumb liberals don't know who the vice presidential candidates are. 0.65

01:48:28.000 Well, they're just a little bit more informed, but also have the... 1.00

01:48:32.000 You know, their ideas set in stone are just as stupid! 1.00

01:48:35.000 Well, our whole Congress is dumbed down, and every media guy is dumbed down. 1.00

01:48:41.000 I mean, why wouldn't they be? 0.96

01:48:42.000 Basically, most of them went to the public through the public school system.

01:48:49.000 It's simply... It's the most brilliant.

01:48:53.000 I call it the four-pronged fork.

01:48:55.000 The Devil's Fork, over a period of a hundred years.

01:48:58.000 They've done it, there are four things.

01:49:00.000 The dialectic, create the problem, people scream, impose a solution, which you wanted in the first place, everybody accepts it.

01:49:06.000 That's going on every day.

01:49:07.000 Semantic deception, where they use terms like basic skills.

01:49:10.000 The basic skill is to be tolerant of every lifestyle.

01:49:13.000 Do you sleep in?

01:49:14.000 Right.

01:49:15.000 Big bucks.

01:49:17.000 And that's, wait a minute, and the dialectic, the dialectic, well I mentioned that.

01:49:22.000 Semantic deception, dialectic, Big bucks and gradualism.

01:49:27.000 The frog in the cold water.

01:49:29.000 And people, you know, over a hundred years, all these things take place and they don't realize what's happening to them because it's gradual until finally, like we are right now, the frog is frying.

01:49:40.000 We're frying, folks.

01:49:42.000 So it's those four things.

01:49:43.000 Remember that that is how they did it to us and it's brilliant and it's diabolical.

01:49:48.000 We'll be right back with more of your calls.

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01:52:48.000 I want to keep Charlotte Iserbe on a little bit of the next hour with Declan McCullough from CNET News, also writing about the new national ID card Super Patriot Act bill, Super Evil bill.

01:53:12.000 but But going back to calls, who's up next here, John?

01:53:20.000 Caroline in Texas, you're on the air with Charlotte Isserby, go ahead.

01:53:25.000 Hello?

01:53:25.000 Yes.

01:53:27.000 I just wanted to call and let you know that I just spoke with my brother.

01:53:30.000 He is a contract computer hacker for the National Guard in Washington, D.C.

01:53:36.000 He's also a member of the O.T.O.

01:53:39.000 and very heavily practices the Hermetic Western tradition.

01:53:44.000 He's telling me that up there that they're saying that Senator Dayton is basically a chicken.

01:53:49.000 No one else really right now is leaving, having their staff leave or anything.

01:53:55.000 He actually thinks that I'm crazy for listening to you too.

01:54:00.000 Well, you know what?

01:54:01.000 A White House source told U.S.

01:54:03.000 News & World Report three months ago that the Capitol would be attacked.

01:54:06.000 We have that posted.

01:54:07.000 I'm not saying that's going to happen.

01:54:09.000 I love how they put this stuff out, then people respond, and if it doesn't happen, we're bad for reading U.S.

01:54:16.000 News & World Report and the Associated Press.

01:54:18.000 And yes, I know, Washington Times, They're calling him a coward. 1.00

01:54:22.000 They're calling him an idiot. 1.00

01:54:23.000 They're calling him all of this. 1.00

01:54:25.000 Leaders in D.C.

01:54:26.000 mock Dayton is the headline.

01:54:28.000 Senator Byrd backs Dayton's decision to close offices.

01:54:32.000 I mean, when the Feds put out reports that it's going to be attacked, what do you expect people to do?

01:54:38.000 Now by computer hacker you mean your brother fights hackers or he's out hacking for them?

01:54:43.000 He hacks for the government and he also makes sure that their systems are not being hacked and he said the Russians are the worst at trying to hack in and yet they're so obvious, you know, when they're trying to hack. 0.74

01:54:53.000 Funny, my sources say it's the Chinese.

01:54:58.000 Really?

01:54:59.000 Yeah.

01:55:00.000 Also on the mental health issue, I am a psychiatric nurse at Ashe.

01:55:05.000 I've been psychiatric for 18 years.

01:55:08.000 I want people to know that there are people out there that do go to bat for these people that don't need the excess medications and I am one of those.

01:55:17.000 I am trying to find another job, but it's very difficult to find one at the pay that I'm making now, because I can't afford to lose much money.

01:55:24.000 Well, for those that just joined us last hour, we talked about these psychiatrists at the state committee saying that these people are brain damaged, that they have bad genes, that's why over half the foster kids have to be on these drugs.

01:55:36.000 I mean, that's eugenics. 0.96

01:55:39.000 And of course, the committee's mouth was hanging open.

01:55:41.000 I mean, are you around doctors that say this?

01:55:43.000 I mean, do you ever see them say this?

01:55:45.000 I don't actually work with the children because I flat out refuse.

01:55:48.000 I am so against the program the way that it's been run for years.

01:55:52.000 What is it like to see them bring little kids in and then drug the living daylights out of them?

01:55:57.000 It breaks my heart.

01:55:59.000 And I have to do that sometimes to adults that I don't think are mentally ill.

01:56:03.000 And I have to be very careful even what I'm doing because they're about ready to take me around to admissions because I'm paranoid and delusional.

01:56:11.000 Charlotte, is there any comments about what this lady is saying, this brave lady?

01:56:14.000 Well, she's right on.

01:56:15.000 I mean, it's fabulous that she's willing to say that on your radio station.

01:56:19.000 I mean, it's just, you know, history repeats itself.

01:56:22.000 The Soviets did this, the Nazis did this. 0.95

01:56:24.000 Yep.

01:56:25.000 And the Soviets had, you know, I always think of LaBianca Prison.

01:56:29.000 I've got so much research on that, where anybody who was opposed to the regime and usually the very brilliant of you know the intellectuals the writers the thinkers the dissenters.

01:56:40.000 Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

01:56:41.000 Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

01:56:42.000 But I mean the electric shock treatment and the drugs and all that they put them on and they died.

01:56:47.000 I mean this is what we're going to be moving into if someone doesn't put a stop to this in quotes "freedom initiative".

01:56:54.000 I mean how Orwellian can it get?

01:56:57.000 It's New Freedom, you're all going to be under Oregon rule now.

01:57:00.000 I mean, the use of words.

01:57:03.000 I guess most Americans have not read 1984 by George Orwell.

01:57:07.000 It's quite obvious they haven't.

01:57:09.000 If they did, they've forgotten everything that they read.

01:57:12.000 Final comments to our caller.

01:57:14.000 Anything else, ma'am?

01:57:16.000 Uh, I just, you know, want to say that some of the people that have children, I try to warn them about what's coming for their children, and they, you know, they say, you need to go to admissions, you know, but we'll be gentle on you.

01:57:26.000 You know?

01:57:27.000 Terrible.

01:57:28.000 Well, good luck with your work.

01:57:28.000 Sad.

01:57:30.000 Keep it up.

01:57:31.000 Thank you.

01:57:32.000 We'll be back with the third hour of worldwide transmission against tyranny, and we'll also have Declan McCullough with us.

01:57:38.000 Charlotte, you can stay with us, right?

01:57:39.000 Mm-hmm.

01:57:40.000 Okay, we'll be right back.

01:57:41.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Alright, my friends, we are now into hour number three on this Friday edition.

01:58:15.000 First hour we had Dr. Breeding on about the public statements of the state committee that it's eugenics.

01:58:20.000 The reason we have to drug half the children, over half of them, is that they have bad brains, bad gene pools.

01:58:27.000 So that's the new eugenics pitch. 0.74

01:58:29.000 And we've got the former deputy head, number two position, Department of Education, Charlotte Isserby, on with us.

01:58:34.000 She even talked about her father's membership of Skull and Bones and some of the things that were revealed by her father.

01:58:40.000 You missed that, I'm sorry.

01:58:41.000 I need to get the full three hours here, folks.

01:58:45.000 And we're about to have Declan McCullough of CNET News on to talk about our new Super National ID Card.

01:58:51.000 And Charlotte Isserby will be riding shotgun with us through that interview as well.

01:58:55.000 Honored to have her, and later we'll also tell you how to get her book, Deliberate Dumbing Down.

01:59:00.000 Of course, my websites are Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:59:04.000 Right now, let's go to Ralph in West Virginia.

01:59:07.000 Ralph, you're on the air.

01:59:08.000 Hey, how you doing, Alex?

01:59:08.000 Thanks for rolling.

01:59:11.000 You're saying so.

01:59:13.000 They pretty much closed up the Capitol building.

01:59:16.000 That's what I heard on local news the other day.

01:59:18.000 I think they're just throwing some scare tactics at the American people, closing all this stuff up.

01:59:25.000 Well, I mean, again, I agree with you.

01:59:28.000 I mean, the Feds, three months ago, told the U.S.

01:59:30.000 News and World Report, White House source, that the Capitol would be attacked.

01:59:34.000 And then Senator Dayton evacuates and they call him a wimp and make fun of him.

01:59:38.000 And I've got the news articles right here.

01:59:40.000 What are you expecting me to do?

01:59:41.000 You said in good conscience after the briefing I got saying we're going to be attacked, I better leave.

01:59:45.000 And it's all a big joke to everybody now.

01:59:47.000 I mean, I'm not saying it's going to happen.

01:59:49.000 They're saying it's going to happen.

01:59:50.000 And then when you respond to it, you're bad.

01:59:53.000 This is all part of this psychology.

01:59:55.000 Charlotte Isserby comments.

01:59:57.000 Oh, absolutely!

01:59:58.000 I mean, they're the biggest... Oh, I shouldn't say that, but I think the biggest terrorists are in the administration. 0.95

02:00:05.000 They're terrorizing us!

02:00:08.000 Maybe something's going to happen, who knows?

02:00:10.000 And who knows who's behind it, huh?

02:00:12.000 But, personally, I just feel that this is part of their conditioning to terrify us so that we will get on our knees and pray for every single bit of legislation which will remove our freedom.

02:00:24.000 Uh, to come as fast as possible.

02:00:26.000 Exactly.

02:00:27.000 Think about the atmosphere right now at the Capitol.

02:00:29.000 They passed Patriot Act 1 when the place was under anthrax attack.

02:00:32.000 And almost the whole complex of buildings was shut down.

02:00:35.000 Uh, this time they're under nuclear threat.

02:00:38.000 You know, the suitcase nuke's probably gonna get us.

02:00:40.000 You know, they're out there saying this to help get that atmosphere to pass Patriot Act 2 and the new national ID card.

02:00:46.000 Absolutely.

02:00:47.000 I think it would be great if Congress would just realize that the terrorists aren't very far from them.

02:00:53.000 Yeah, on Pennsylvania Avenue.

02:00:55.000 Yeah, they're right down the street.

02:00:58.000 The headquarters for world terrorism is not what people think.

02:01:03.000 You mean it's not in a cave?

02:01:06.000 Well, can a cave make NORAD stand down and have Condoleezza Rice call Mayor Willie Brown on September 10th and say, don't fly tomorrow to New York?

02:01:12.000 Yeah.

02:01:13.000 I couldn't agree more, Alex.

02:01:15.000 But I mean, can't Al-Qaeda make CIA do insider trading like before on the stocks?

02:01:20.000 How about it?

02:01:22.000 Can Al-Qaeda make C-130s land and fly the Al-Qaeda leaders out of Afghanistan in the middle of the war to safety?

02:01:29.000 Boy, Al-Qaeda controls an awful lot!

02:01:31.000 It's absolutely amazing what that little group in the hills of Afghanistan is able to do.

02:01:36.000 Man, from a cave!

02:01:38.000 With a dialysis machine connected to him.

02:01:38.000 And from a cave.

02:01:42.000 Magically controlling.

02:01:43.000 Anything else, Ralph?

02:01:44.000 I'll tell you what, Alex.

02:01:45.000 I think if they're going to hit anything, they're going to hit three places at once, or it's going to be kind of together.

02:01:51.000 Well, that's what they said.

02:01:52.000 They said... Okay, whether it be the East Coast, then the Midwest, then the West Coast.

02:01:57.000 What they said in U.S.

02:01:59.000 News & World Report from a White House source was, quote, We will have terror attacks.

02:02:03.000 It will happen.

02:02:04.000 It will be one of two things.

02:02:06.000 Coast-to-coast attacks or the Capitol.

02:02:10.000 That's the quote.

02:02:11.000 So, they said it.

02:02:12.000 I didn't say it.

02:02:13.000 I also want to commend that lady that just called before. 0.99

02:02:17.000 She's a nurse in the mental health field. 0.69

02:02:19.000 I want to commend her because I do the same, similar type work.

02:02:23.000 And, you know, these so-called shrinks, most of them come out of foreign countries. 1.00

02:02:30.000 You know, they think they're a god.

02:02:33.000 Well, it's inmates running the asylum.

02:02:37.000 Anything else?

02:02:39.000 Uh, well, that's basically it.

02:02:40.000 That's about all I got to tell you right now.

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02:05:54.000 Well, 400 cities and 4 states throw out the Patriot Act, the first Patriot Act.

02:06:04.000 The House votes it down, then it goes to the Senate and they throw that out.

02:06:10.000 And now they've got the new Super Patriot Act 2 with the National ID Card and the Total Information Awareness Network.

02:06:16.000 Everything else rolled into it.

02:06:19.000 All rolled into one.

02:06:21.000 And to talk about this, we're joined by Declan McCullough, who we've interviewed many times over the years.

02:06:27.000 And of course, good old Declan that does a lot of great research.

02:06:30.000 He writes for CNET News, a lot of other big publications.

02:06:35.000 And we have Charlotte Isserby, who was the former number two individual, deputy head of the Department of Education under Ronald Reagan, on about this.

02:06:43.000 She's been talking about it for 18 months.

02:06:45.000 And I've known for years that the state driver's licenses were already being standardized with the biometrics.

02:06:50.000 Now they're racing to make it law and to have it tied to what jobs you can have. 0.97

02:06:55.000 This is our internal passport.

02:06:58.000 Declan McCullough, good to have you on with us, my friend.

02:07:00.000 Why, hello there.

02:07:01.000 Thank you for the invitation.

02:07:03.000 You bet, it's good to have you on board with us.

02:07:06.000 You've written a lot of extensive articles about this new Super Patriot actor.

02:07:10.000 I don't know, what would you call this new 9-11 bill that they've introduced?

02:07:16.000 Worrisome.

02:07:18.000 I actually don't know.

02:07:19.000 You can call it whatever you like.

02:07:20.000 What really matters is what's in there.

02:07:23.000 I've been spending all day reading the latest versions, and you know, there are a lot of problems with it, but the biggest one is that this stuff's just not available out there.

02:07:33.000 On the internet, or even members of the Congress say they don't have the final version of the Senate approved last week.

02:07:39.000 It's really bizarre.

02:07:41.000 It's been a week since the vote, and it's just not available online.

02:07:46.000 You don't even know what your so-called elected representatives are doing.

02:07:50.000 Now, one of the few good things Newt Gingrich did, I don't like Newt Gingrich, folks, he's a neokime, was he got a law passed almost a decade ago One of the first things he did, that every piece of legislation that's been introduced or passed, has to be on the Thomas website, the Library of Congress.

02:08:10.000 But it's not there, is it?

02:08:12.000 That's exactly right.

02:08:13.000 Go to thomas.loc.gov, and in the top left corner, ask for the bill number.

02:08:18.000 Type in S2845, that's 2845.

02:08:19.000 What you'll see, Is something saying not available yet?

02:08:27.000 Oh, of course the original version of the bill is there!

02:08:29.000 I mean, Newt's old idea worked to that extent!

02:08:32.000 But where it failed is all the real important versions, the stuff that's happening in committees, these last minute amendments, they're not there.

02:08:41.000 Now again, on every other bill, they will show every different conference committee version, there might be 20 of them there and it shows it all to you, now magically it's not there.

02:08:52.000 Now when they passed the first Patriot Act, Back on October 27, 2001, they had a version, people didn't like it, went back into committee, got the bad stuff added back in.

02:09:04.000 Two hours before the vote, got put on Thomas.

02:09:06.000 30 minutes before, they got hard copies.

02:09:09.000 No one had time to read the 90-something page bill with hundreds of side page addendums.

02:09:15.000 And it was passed the dead of night.

02:09:18.000 This time, it's passed the House and the Senate.

02:09:19.000 It's in the Conference Committee.

02:09:21.000 It can be brought out to be passed, the full bill, any day now, Declan.

02:09:25.000 That's right.

02:09:25.000 They're going to have to give the members of Congress a few days to get back from trying to get their re-elected.

02:09:33.000 But you're right, it can go back really quickly, and the danger is, this is a politically charged election season, obviously, and who's going to want to vote against something that's supposedly going to protect America from terrorism?

02:09:46.000 I don't know how National Ideas would necessarily do that, but that's going to be the argument.

02:09:52.000 Charlotte Isserby, any comments?

02:09:55.000 Well, my comment is that I'm not surprised.

02:09:59.000 I don't think anybody realizes how many hours I spent, 18 months, trying to get information on the internal passport from Olympia Snowe and the hiring of the two ex-KGB chiefs to consult with him on this.

02:10:14.000 I mean, if it took me 18 months and I never got any information, and she even sent my request over to the Office of Personnel Management, and I could never get anything out of them, and I went after them an equal number of times.

02:10:28.000 And, uh, you know, so, why should we be surprised that they're not putting it up on the Internet?

02:10:33.000 They don't want anyone to know what they're doing.

02:10:37.000 But, they, we have the original version, they admit what it's gonna do, and they've got this little caveat about, oh, it's to stop illegals, but Bush, nine months ago, ten months ago, said, everybody else has a thumb scan and face scan, but illegals coming in from Latin America They don't have to do it.

02:10:54.000 We accept the consular matricula cards from 30 plus countries now.

02:10:58.000 I mean, Decla, a lot of people, Larry Pratt and others who've analyzed this are saying, this whole thing about illegals is a red herring.

02:11:05.000 They know 87% of people are against the open borders, so they pitch this as some security thing for the borders.

02:11:10.000 That's exactly right.

02:11:11.000 I had a column up on news.com on October 4th, and what I was doing is taking a look at a bill from California, Republican David Dreier.

02:11:24.000 What Dreier's bill that was introduced last month would do, he said, oh yeah, this is an anti-illegal immigrant bill, but it's actually designed to save his political behind because he's facing a lot of embarrassing allegations, protests in his home district, and it's going to be a tough race for him.

02:11:46.000 What it says is that Americans are going to have to carry around A national ID card, a federal ID is what he calls it, with a photograph, social security number, and a so-called encrypted electronic script.

02:11:57.000 And before you get a job, you've got to show one of these federal ID cards.

02:12:02.000 And if your employer doesn't comply, then the employer can be jailed for up to five years.

02:12:08.000 And then he also has a back-end database, so whenever it's swiped, the government knows where you are and who's swiping your federal ID in the database.

02:12:15.000 So this is a worrisome proposal.

02:12:17.000 It's not, I should say, it's not part of the post 9-11 bill that we were talking about earlier.

02:12:22.000 It's standalone legislation.

02:12:23.000 Well, to be clear, Breyer's introduced one bill and you've also got national ID card language in the 9-11 bill.

02:12:29.000 Yes, in both versions, the House and the Senate.

02:12:32.000 It's just a question of which one is better or worse.

02:12:36.000 We could spend hours arguing over that.

02:12:37.000 Neither is good.

02:12:41.000 Which one, excuse me a minute, which one has the business about requiring the ID card in order to get a job?

02:12:47.000 They both.

02:12:48.000 Sorry, no, that's a separate bill.

02:12:49.000 That was introduced by... There's Dreyer and then there's the 9-11 bill.

02:12:54.000 David, Representative Dreyer's bill is H.R. 5111.

02:12:59.000 Okay.

02:12:59.000 Then the two 9-11 bills, one of them is F-2845 and the other is H-R-10.

02:13:06.000 Well, Declan, we're all really busy and it's hard to keep track of all of it, but two years ago, I taped this, and I've got literally a room full of stuff I've taped, but I watched a two-hour C-SPAN piece with Ridge, and he said, you're going to have this National worker card, it'll double as an ID card.

02:13:23.000 And he said, we're going to standardize it with the driver's license.

02:13:27.000 And then he came out and said, openly, that then you're going to have to have this to have a job in infrastructure protection.

02:13:36.000 And he went on to list food service, agriculture, taxi driving, school teacher, everything.

02:13:42.000 And the feds are going to decide if you get the color coding to have that job just like Caps 2 with the flying.

02:13:51.000 Let me add to that.

02:13:52.000 You've sparked my memory.

02:13:54.000 I had probably repressed that memory, but it's coming back to me now.

02:13:59.000 An amendment that's part of the bill that the Senate passed.

02:14:04.000 I mean, this is almost law, folks.

02:14:06.000 It goes in that direction.

02:14:09.000 It wants the Department of Homeland Security to create an integrated network of screening points that includes the transportation system and critical infrastructure and any other facilities that the Secretary determines need to be protected against terrorist attacks.

02:14:25.000 This could mean checkpoints on street corners.

02:14:26.000 I don't know.

02:14:27.000 Oh, I've talked to the police, I've talked to the military, and I watch Ridge with my mouth hanging open.

02:14:33.000 Well, he was there for an hour.

02:14:35.000 He said, I'm sorry, I have to leave.

02:14:36.000 And he got up and left.

02:14:37.000 I've got this on tape.

02:14:38.000 I've got to get interns in here. 0.99

02:14:39.000 What happens is that for months at a time, I'll just stick tapes in VCRs and be recording three different news channels.

02:14:47.000 And I sat there and watched this.

02:14:48.000 And of course, didn't label it.

02:14:49.000 But it's somewhere around here.

02:14:51.000 And then after he left, all these CEOs got into how much money this will make in compliance with all of this.

02:14:59.000 Oh, I...

02:15:01.000 We're all speechless now, ladies and gentlemen.

02:15:03.000 You know, Declan McCulloch, Charlotte Isserby, this is what everybody's always worried about with the National ID Card, is that they do this, and so day one, they're not just getting the card and then bringing this in.

02:15:15.000 Day one, they're doing it all!

02:15:18.000 Well, you know, it's, uh, let's, let's, uh, as I said before, Americans aren't going to do anything until it is so horrible.

02:15:27.000 They're just going to have to own the problem.

02:15:29.000 They're just going to have to own the problem.

02:15:31.000 They're going to have to be turned down for a job.

02:15:32.000 They're going to have to not be allowed to travel across the border.

02:15:35.000 They're not going to take care of any of these problems until that happens.

02:15:38.000 And I think the best way to get that to happen is probably even worse than Bush is to get Kerry in there because he's going to be so horrible that he and Bush are the same, of course, same agenda.

02:15:50.000 But vote for Peruca.

02:15:53.000 Draw the votes from George Bush.

02:15:55.000 Make sure Bush doesn't get elected.

02:15:56.000 He's too terribly dangerous anyway.

02:15:59.000 Probably more dangerous, in a way, than Kerry because of his foreign ventures.

02:16:03.000 But get Kerry elected, and all those Christian fundamentalists, good Americans out there who love George Bush, let him do whatever he wants, let him push us into world government, world tyranny, let him do it, folks.

02:16:18.000 Those people will not let Kerry do that.

02:16:22.000 I agree with you.

02:16:23.000 I've been saying this all along.

02:16:24.000 Comments, Declan McCullough. 0.95

02:16:28.000 They're both sociopathic candidates at some level.

02:16:35.000 I'd probably vote libertarian if I didn't live in Washington D.C.

02:16:38.000 that's 90% Democrat, so it's not worth me voting. 0.96

02:16:42.000 But to answer your point, yeah, I mean, back when we had Clinton in the White House, you had Dick Armey doing his job in Congress and saying, you know, we're not going to let this bastard get away with things. 0.84

02:16:53.000 There was gridlock, which was good. 0.89

02:16:55.000 We were prosperous.

02:16:58.000 Government spending grew relatively slowly.

02:17:00.000 I mean, actually, it might be good to have a Democrat back in the White House just so you can have this gridlock and the Republicans can start being obstructionists instead of voting for more and more spending like a Democrat on crack.

02:17:13.000 That's exactly it.

02:17:14.000 And just think Rush Limbaugh can start really doing something again.

02:17:17.000 The Republicans can develop a spine.

02:17:20.000 Well, I mean, I have to agree with both of your comments and your analysis.

02:17:24.000 Think about what we've come to, folks.

02:17:28.000 Government spending has doubled what it was under Clinton, and only 30% of that is military.

02:17:33.000 Now this is incredible.

02:17:34.000 When we get back, Declan, you're in D.C., and we've got Senators evacuating the Capitol.

02:17:38.000 I want to talk about that when we return.

02:17:40.000 Stay with us.

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02:21:43.000 I want people to let this sink in.

02:21:53.000 A national ID card.

02:21:55.000 Patriot Act 2.

02:21:57.000 Funding for the Total Information Awareness Network.

02:22:01.000 It has all passed the House and the Senate.

02:22:06.000 We're talking about Bill O'Reilly and is he a sexual harasser?

02:22:10.000 We're talking about Kobe Bryant.

02:22:12.000 No, we're not going to talk about that here.

02:22:15.000 This is unbelievable.

02:22:17.000 And this has been their plan all along.

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02:22:34.000 Declan McCullough You're in D.C., a brave man, you live there, you work there, and we'll talk about your website and what you do here in just a few minutes for folks to check it out.

02:22:45.000 But we have Senator Dayton evacuating three days ago because of, quote, a security threat he was given a month ago by the leader of the Senate, and that's imminent threat to the Capitol.

02:22:55.000 And then I have a U.S.

02:22:56.000 News & World Report article from three months ago where they said, the White House source told us the Capitol will be attacked, that's a quote, And now I have the Washington Times, leaders in D.C.

02:23:10.000 mock Dayton, say he's a coward, say there's no threat.

02:23:13.000 Well, Ridges said it's probably going to be attacked, and then his sources have said it will be attacked. 0.91

02:23:18.000 You're in D.C.

02:23:19.000 What are you getting on this subject?

02:23:21.000 Well, I should say that maybe I'm a wimp, but I don't go over to Capitol Hill that much, mainly because the stuff I do is in the northwest quadrant of the city.

02:23:33.000 So I don't know as much about the situation there as folks who live on Capitol Hill.

02:23:39.000 And keep in mind that you have townhouses coming right up to the Capitol building.

02:23:44.000 It's a residential area, so it's not just Senators who should be worried.

02:23:47.000 But that said, you know, I mean, we've been living for the last two-plus years in a state where you always have these heightened alerts and emergencies and terrorist threat warnings, and it seems bizarre that you just have one Member of Congress out of 100 saying, hey, I'm going to take off and close my office.

02:24:09.000 It really is inexplicable.

02:24:10.000 Good point.

02:24:13.000 But he says he was given a briefing, and they won't talk about that briefing.

02:24:18.000 Did you see the U.S.

02:24:19.000 News and World Report article, Declan?

02:24:22.000 I'm looking at an AP article right now.

02:24:23.000 I don't know if that's what ran in U.S.

02:24:25.000 News.

02:24:25.000 No.

02:24:27.000 Well, does the AP article say a White House source told U.S.

02:24:31.000 News and World Report that there will be an attack before or on the election, and that either the Capitol will be attacked or there will be coast-to-coast attacks?

02:24:42.000 Impressive!

02:24:45.000 Even if that's true, and this is the communication that the Senator received, All the other members of the Senate received the same intelligence, as far as I can tell.

02:24:56.000 Yeah, no, he said that, yeah.

02:24:58.000 So then 99 folks decided to stick it out.

02:25:01.000 Actually, they're not there.

02:25:02.000 They're pretty much home, except for the few people on the conference committee.

02:25:06.000 But it still seems bizarre.

02:25:08.000 You'd expect to see more unanimity here.

02:25:10.000 Well, I don't see his political reason for doing it.

02:25:13.000 I think it's risky.

02:25:14.000 He says it's morally, I've been given a threat this big, I want to warn people.

02:25:19.000 I mean, it could be a wider That's alarming for the city itself!

02:25:22.000 And look, I'm not saying this is going to happen.

02:25:23.000 I've got a U.S.

02:25:24.000 News and World Report article on my website under this article we posted, the one of the Washington Times three days ago, where he said he was evacuating.

02:25:32.000 So I don't... And look, we have a White House that's been caught issuing fake terror alerts.

02:25:37.000 So I don't know what to believe.

02:25:40.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a bizarre situation in many ways.

02:25:43.000 You have a Department of Homeland Security that's supposed to take care of well, I say check Homeland Security, and coordinate things.

02:25:53.000 But instead, you have the Capitol Police, a different branch of government, having its own alert.

02:25:58.000 There you have the FBI playing turf wars with DHS and issuing its own warnings.

02:26:07.000 This is what Ashcroft and DOJ has been doing as well.

02:26:10.000 And so you get these mixed messages.

02:26:12.000 And so the situation by creating DHS is probably worse than it was before.

02:26:17.000 Well I think bottom line what Charlotte said last hour is the case.

02:26:20.000 They had an anthrax attack from questionable sources going on during the last passage of a Patriot Act.

02:26:26.000 Now we have this new atmosphere of heightened alert.

02:26:29.000 You better pass this to keep everybody safe.

02:26:32.000 I think that's what's A big part of this.

02:26:34.000 You might be right.

02:26:35.000 That's a good point. 0.99

02:26:38.000 It's pathetic. 0.96

02:26:42.000 Well, I mean, we're not even really getting into Patriot Act 2. 0.96

02:26:45.000 They've got Patriot Act 2 rolled into this bill, Declan.

02:26:48.000 Yeah, they've been taking, um, not all of it.

02:26:51.000 But they've taken portions of it and stuck it in there, that's right.

02:26:56.000 And again, this should be a top nightly news story, but it's not.

02:27:02.000 For some reason, just saying this was a response to the 9-11 Commission's report made everyone, the mainstream media say, oh, okay, it must be good.

02:27:12.000 We're not going to worry about it.

02:27:13.000 We're just going to focus on celebrity gossip instead.

02:27:17.000 But that commission was appointed by George W. Bush.

02:27:22.000 That was like when Janet Reno appointed Danforth to investigate her and they called it independent.

02:27:26.000 Yeah, hardly independent.

02:27:28.000 This was back from the get-go.

02:27:30.000 Alright, a bunch of other issues coming up.

02:27:31.000 Your calls.

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02:31:34.000 Governments always want to dominate and control populations.

02:31:37.000 I mean, even if we had an angelic government and John Kerry or George Bush or whoever else, they're building the mechanisms for total enslavement, total micromanagement by this technocracy.

02:31:49.000 Technology is just an inanimate system, but it can be used as a tool for good or evil.

02:31:54.000 It's being used for evil, folks.

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02:32:00.000 The border is wide open.

02:32:01.000 Our government is arming and training all these terrorist countries. 0.98

02:32:04.000 You know, with one hand giving them nuclear weapons components, with the other hand saying, we gotta go into Iran. 0.88

02:32:08.000 And then meanwhile, the border's wide open, and then they're telling citizens, we're gonna have to have national ID cards, and the bills that are out there have waivers for the illegals! 0.92

02:32:19.000 It's mind-boggling, mind-blowing.

02:32:22.000 Charlotte Isserby, any comments about this before we go to these calls from Dan and Ron and Joe and many others?

02:32:27.000 Well, my comments are just the deliberate dumbing down of America.

02:32:31.000 I never realized when I put all my research together that what the title really, the significance of the title, they had to do this.

02:32:40.000 They had to dumb our children down, all of us.

02:32:42.000 We're now, we're adults, but we've been dumbed down.

02:32:46.000 And we don't know, if you don't know what form of government or economic system you have, you don't know the Constitution, you don't know any of these things, you don't know what communism, fascism is, If you've never had any real history, you're not going to object to this kind of thing.

02:33:00.000 I think this is the reason, the major reason why Americans are not rising up and doing something about this.

02:33:07.000 Because if you don't know that someone stole something from you, are you going to complain if you don't know you have it in the first place?

02:33:14.000 Well, Charlotte, I think a big part of that is an illusion.

02:33:16.000 I agree there's a dumbed-down mash.

02:33:18.000 I mean, half the public you talk to doesn't even know who the Vice President is, literally. 1.00

02:33:22.000 But for that other half, half of those think they know everything, think they're a part of the system, and we're just idiots. 0.93

02:33:28.000 But I'd say we've got a quarter of the people who have a Christian, conservative, or libertarian, freedom-loving, truth-seeking view. 0.98

02:33:36.000 And to us, we're just in horror.

02:33:38.000 And then the mainstream media tries to make us feel like we're alone or by ourselves.

02:33:41.000 But Declan McCullough, Charlotte, Izrami, you guys do interviews.

02:33:44.000 I mean, I've done 1,600-plus, quit counting months ago, in the last three years, on some of the biggest talk shows in the country.

02:33:51.000 And I'll be on for three hours and they'll take 30-40 calls and one caller will call in and disagree and say, I want to kill you, I want to put you in a camp, Alex. 1.00

02:34:00.000 You know, you're a liar. 0.99

02:34:01.000 So I see it as we're the majority. 0.96

02:34:03.000 I see it as we've actually won.

02:34:05.000 It's just that the media still makes us feel like we're all by ourselves.

02:34:09.000 I think that that's why I feel we've got to vote for Peruca to make sure Bush doesn't win.

02:34:15.000 Because there's not enough time for us to go through the dialectic, constantly going through the dialectic, where you pit one side against the other, good versus evil, and you keep coming to the synthesis, and we can't move.

02:34:28.000 You're saying just put Kerry in, all the conservatives will wake up, they'll absolutely hate.

02:34:33.000 Declan McCullough comments about people really waking up.

02:34:36.000 Do you think that, or what do you think?

02:34:39.000 I guess I've spent 10 years in DC.

02:34:41.000 I first moved here in 1991 and a year or two off and came back for some strange reason.

02:34:49.000 But the point is I've become a little pessimistic.

02:34:51.000 I think things are going to have to get worse, much worse, before they get better.

02:34:56.000 America is, for all of its problems, It still has a strong economy.

02:35:03.000 There's a lot more that needs to be done by folks in government who don't understand what a free society should be before things get really, really bad.

02:35:15.000 But, I mean, we're heading in this direction pretty quickly with this two-party duopoly.

02:35:20.000 Explain a two-party duopoly.

02:35:22.000 Well, I mean, it's this idea Uh, that Iraq, that you have basically two parties who both like power quite a bit, and they are very worried about third parties.

02:35:38.000 And so they do things like co-opt third party messages, make it difficult and near impossible for third party candidates to get on state ballots, and do things like oppose third parties entering presidential debates, unless it's someone who's maybe an independent billionaire like Mr. Perot, who can sort of force his way in.

02:35:58.000 And to respond to your earlier point about the media, I mean, I've worked at mainstream media publications, and the media isn't necessarily Democratic or Republican.

02:36:11.000 Individual reporters tend to be more Democratic, it's true, but the broader theme is that they tend to be attracted to power.

02:36:20.000 And if they write the party line, they're going to get to have dinner with the president, they're going to be at the table, they're going to be at all the press conferences, and the minute they don't self-censor, they're not going to be there.

02:36:29.000 Exactly right, and so being a White House reporter, I go to the White House Every so often to cover events there, but having to be there every day is one of the worst jobs in the world, because you get handed a press release, and then you're told to write about it, and everyone in the White House, if they have message to put on that day, isn't going to tell you anything different.

02:36:51.000 You have very little background.

02:36:52.000 It's just a miserable job. 0.90

02:36:55.000 The point is, you do that job well by sucking up to the folks in power, whether they're Democratic or Republican.

02:37:00.000 Alright, I want to shift gears into the calls.

02:37:02.000 Dan in Illinois.

02:37:03.000 Dan, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:37:06.000 Go ahead, Dan.

02:37:07.000 Yeah, Charlotte?

02:37:08.000 Yeah, hi.

02:37:09.000 Yeah, how are you?

02:37:10.000 Listen, I want to... Hi, Dan.

02:37:11.000 Oh, yeah, hi.

02:37:12.000 Yeah.

02:37:14.000 You were thinking about these so-called Christians getting on the bandwagon with Kerry's getting voted.

02:37:19.000 You know what?

02:37:20.000 What?

02:37:20.000 There has been a diabolic plan against these people with the left and the right, the politically active and everybody else.

02:37:26.000 The use of hate has got these people so incoherent right now.

02:37:31.000 Right.

02:37:31.000 They don't have any ability to perceive anything but hate.

02:37:34.000 They think one side is the enemy, the other side is just constantly using this hate.

02:37:39.000 That's all it's going to do is make them hate more if Kerry goes in. 1.00

02:37:44.000 Yeah, that's good.

02:37:45.000 Then they'll suddenly hate the National ID Card.

02:37:47.000 They'll suddenly hate the open borders.

02:37:50.000 That's why I really would like to see that happen.

02:37:53.000 Earlier on, a commercial came along.

02:37:56.000 I wanted to point out that about 20 years ago, when I was in Washington, After Reagan had been elected.

02:38:02.000 And I asked the chair, the editor of Human Events, how his subscriptions were.

02:38:08.000 And he said, oh, they're down.

02:38:10.000 And I said, oh, yeah.

02:38:11.000 He said, oh, always.

02:38:12.000 When we get a Republican in there, especially a conservative, nobody subscribes to Human Events.

02:38:17.000 And that was when Human Events was good.

02:38:20.000 And I thought that was very interesting.

02:38:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:38:22.000 Hey, listen, this broadcast is going to automatically get 50 more affiliates.

02:38:26.000 Uh, you know, as soon as the Democrats win, because suddenly everybody will be concerned.

02:38:30.000 I mean, I totally agree.

02:38:31.000 But look, there's no way Kerry is going to get away with the open borders, with the gun control, and the rest of it.

02:38:38.000 All of this agenda, they've been able to get away with this because conservatives go, well, he doesn't mean it.

02:38:43.000 Well, he didn't mean for that to happen.

02:38:45.000 It's like been a sleeping gas.

02:38:48.000 Dan, thanks for the call.

02:38:49.000 Before we go to Ron in New York and others that are holding, toll free number 1-800-259-9231.

02:38:55.000 Declan, give folks your info on how people read your great articles.

02:38:58.000 Oh, why thank you.

02:39:00.000 You can read them at news.com, pretty easy domain name to remember, or my own website, which is politechspot.com.

02:39:07.000 That's P-O-L-T-E-C-H-P-O-T-E-C-H. 1.00

02:39:09.000 I-P-E-C-H-E-O-T dot com. 0.86

02:39:12.000 And we have links to both those sites at InfoWars.com.

02:39:16.000 Declan, have you put out any books or publications you want to plug?

02:39:18.000 I've written some chapters for books, haven't written my own yet.

02:39:22.000 I've spent probably too much time writing stuff for the internet.

02:39:24.000 I know, you're very prolific when it comes to that.

02:39:27.000 Ron in New York, you're on the air.

02:39:29.000 Go ahead, Ron.

02:39:31.000 Good afternoon to everybody.

02:39:33.000 I don't want to digress from the purpose of my call, but the last caller mentioned hate.

02:39:38.000 When you have an animosity towards injustice, that's not hate.

02:39:42.000 That's righteous indignation.

02:39:44.000 I agree.

02:39:45.000 Okay.

02:39:46.000 Now, for the purpose of my call, many of the callers over the last few weeks, Alex, have been calling about this thing where they can't get their canceled checks returned to them.

02:39:54.000 Well, lo and behold, in a very small local village paper in my community today, there's an article about that.

02:39:59.000 It's a good article, too.

02:40:01.000 And again, you pay for these checks.

02:40:03.000 And then they send you little bitty copies of them.

02:40:06.000 Right.

02:40:06.000 And that's going to take full implementation on October the 28th, and it's born out of something called the Check Clearing for the 21st Century Act, or better known as Check 21.

02:40:16.000 The article, ironically, Alex, they use the professional, I guess, information from somebody down in your state, a guy in Houston, Texas, named Joe Gillian, Who's a chief executive of Pinnacle Financial Strategies and he gives the whole lowdown in that paper of what that's about.

02:40:34.000 Bottom line is this, good for bank, bad for consumer.

02:40:37.000 That's really what it comes down to.

02:40:39.000 They don't give you your check back, they give you a photocopy, and then they have the audacity, and this was made in law to say the photocopy carries the full weight of the original document.

02:40:49.000 That's the first time that I've ever seen in American legal history that a photocopy of anything will carry the full weight of the act.

02:40:57.000 And then they can also alter it if they want to.

02:40:59.000 That's right, because that's the point.

02:40:59.000 You're perfectly right.

02:41:01.000 Let me get a comment from Declan McCullough on this.

02:41:03.000 This is right up his alley.

02:41:04.000 Declan?

02:41:06.000 I'm not familiar with that.

02:41:07.000 I'm probably not the best person to talk about it.

02:41:10.000 Well, I mean, I know suddenly my checks came back and they're little bitty photocopies, you know, 10, 15 checks on one page.

02:41:16.000 That's what I have.

02:41:18.000 And you can't even read it.

02:41:19.000 Yeah, I mean, I've run into the same thing.

02:41:23.000 You know, that might be a problem, but I'm more worried about things like the legislation in Congress than that.

02:41:31.000 Well, I am too.

02:41:32.000 The National ID card and the rest of it.

02:41:34.000 Me too.

02:41:35.000 Alex, let me give you and of course your listeners the website.

02:41:40.000 This little paper actually has a website and you can find the article on there on about page 31.

02:41:47.000 It's called the Times News Weekly.

02:41:50.000 It's www.timesnewsweekly.com.

02:41:54.000 And it's amazing that, you know, it's a really good article from this small little paper about that issue.

02:41:58.000 Well, let me say something about this.

02:42:00.000 This is part of a larger, more dangerous trend of the government or corporations making you take automatic transfer and everything going to this cashless system to where they're phasing out and going to the ID card and going to cashless.

02:42:16.000 I'm all for having the dual system, but we need to keep the original system in place.

02:42:21.000 Declan, comments on making people go to automatic transfers?

02:42:27.000 Maybe I'm going to sound a little radical here, and you're not going to agree with me.

02:42:32.000 If the banks are doing it themselves, and they're doing it voluntarily because it actually reduces prices and they can offer better interest rates or whatever, I don't have a problem with it.

02:42:45.000 What I do have a problem with, and maybe this is where Ron's going, is when the government steps in and says, thou shalt.

02:42:51.000 Yeah, it's a law.

02:42:51.000 Well, that's what it is.

02:42:52.000 It's the result of something known as the Check Clearing for the 21st Century Act.

02:42:56.000 And then see, the banks have gotten a law passed because people are going to want to go to the bank where you get your original check.

02:43:01.000 Oh no, now it's the law.

02:43:02.000 You don't get it.

02:43:04.000 Right.

02:43:05.000 So that's the government regulating business now.

02:43:07.000 A question to Ron.

02:43:08.000 Does this apply to credit unions?

02:43:11.000 Well, I guess it applies to any financial institution that you write a check against.

02:43:15.000 Period.

02:43:16.000 You can't have it paid by going to the credit union.

02:43:19.000 Yeah, that's what's... People are really mad about this.

02:43:22.000 What it does, folks, as Alex pointed out, because it's all electronic, things can be altered.

02:43:27.000 There's no evidence trail left anymore.

02:43:28.000 There's no hard paper trail.

02:43:30.000 There's no document trail.

02:43:32.000 This is like an unprecedented concept in our culture.

02:43:35.000 We've always had the basis of, like Alex said, either a dual system or the paper trail system, so that if, you know, if push comes to shove, you have an original document to prove your case.

02:43:45.000 This diminishes that now.

02:43:47.000 Okay, thanks for the call, Ron.

02:43:49.000 Shifting gears from both of you, Charlotte Isserby in the Reagan administration, Declan Teniers in D.C.

02:43:54.000 covering it.

02:43:55.000 Electronic voting machines, they've been caught in mistakes or fraud, coast to coast.

02:44:00.000 Two days ago they did a test in Palm Beach, the system wouldn't even power up, it crashed.

02:44:05.000 I mean, it seems like, you know, let's just say we can trust them.

02:44:08.000 You know, you don't get a paper trail, which is a fraud, of course.

02:44:10.000 Doesn't matter, still, the error rate's even higher, they're crashing, they're breaking down.

02:44:15.000 They got convicted felons, you know, running diabolical out in California.

02:44:18.000 Declan, comments?

02:44:20.000 You're right!

02:44:21.000 What else can I say?

02:44:22.000 I'll try.

02:44:24.000 A few points.

02:44:25.000 First, the computer scientists are right on this one.

02:44:30.000 These machines have tremendous tremendous security vulnerabilities in theory.

02:44:36.000 This is not a happy system to use.

02:44:39.000 This is not something we should be using.

02:44:40.000 Canada has millions of people, tens of millions of people, and they do things by old-fashioned paper balance, and you know it actually works.

02:44:47.000 Yeah, 20 million people.

02:44:48.000 Yeah, but at the same time, a lot of these objections and criticisms are theoretical, that They'll probably happen eventually, but they haven't happened yet.

02:45:01.000 So let's just keep in mind that we really haven't had the Armageddon of e-voting machine fraud happen yet.

02:45:10.000 It's still something that's likely to happen, but I'm guessing it's not going to happen this year.

02:45:14.000 Well, Declan, I mean, I really focus on this, and there's whole sites like Black Box Voting that have maybe ten stories a day, hundreds on election days.

02:45:22.000 I mean, you know, there's 31,000 voters on the machine cast, 38,000.

02:45:27.000 You've got people like Hagel owning his own voting machine company that 90% of those in Nebraska vote for him on.

02:45:34.000 You've got Clear Channel here in Texas owning Hardiner Civics, then running their own candidate who's married to the owner's daughter, and then the polls show he's going to lose, but he magically wins.

02:45:43.000 We've had Diebold's engineers quit to say this system's a complete joke.

02:45:48.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:45:49.000 Charlotte, is there any comments?

02:45:51.000 I'm not good on that one.

02:45:52.000 That's not my expertise.

02:45:54.000 No expertise on that.

02:45:56.000 I know this.

02:45:56.000 Alex is that we don't have it in Maine, and thank God we don't, because I feel it's open to...

02:46:04.000 Manipulate.

02:46:04.000 A lot of this.

02:46:05.000 Everywhere they put this system in, the politicians get real arrogant real quick.

02:46:10.000 98% of you are against toll roads? 0.99

02:46:12.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:46:12.000 We got the machines! 1.00

02:46:13.000 Ha ha ha!

02:46:14.000 I mean, it just... Declan, you can't ignore this incredible new arrogance.

02:46:18.000 I mean, you've been in D.C.

02:46:19.000 for 10 years, but it seems like they're getting more arrogant.

02:46:22.000 They are.

02:46:24.000 They get more and more money to spend.

02:46:26.000 I was just looking at the latest issue of Liberty Magazine, which I always like reading.

02:46:32.000 The government spending in the last 50 years, inflation adjusted, has increased about five times per capita.

02:46:40.000 It's huge.

02:46:41.000 You give politicians more money, they get more arrogant.

02:46:43.000 But to go to your e-voting machine thing, I mean, technology is wonderful.

02:46:47.000 I'm a technologist.

02:46:48.000 I'm a computer programmer.

02:46:50.000 I write for a technology website.

02:46:52.000 But you don't always need technology when it hasn't been proven to be secure.

02:46:58.000 There are secure Uh... technology out there for e-voting.

02:47:01.000 They're just not being used.

02:47:03.000 And they're there that give you a paper trail, but no, just trust us, you can't have that.

02:47:07.000 Yeah.

02:47:08.000 Last question for you, Declan McCullough.

02:47:11.000 Internet 2.

02:47:12.000 They have the big conference here in Austin.

02:47:14.000 We covered it.

02:47:15.000 They keep saying the Internet is dead.

02:47:16.000 It will be shut down.

02:47:17.000 We're not going to upgrade the major hubs.

02:47:19.000 We're going to force you over to Internet 2.

02:47:21.000 And it's the very corporations that own the backbone that are saying this is going to happen.

02:47:27.000 Any comments about Internet 2?

02:47:28.000 By Internet 2, do you mean the version of the Internet that's being used by schools, higher ed, or do you mean the IPv6?

02:47:37.000 Both of those, they're now saying, are going to merge together in a consortium, and I actually did make it down there one day to this, and the headline is, the old internet's about to die, and we're going to force you over into this new grid we're building.

02:47:52.000 Yeah, don't hold your breath.

02:47:53.000 There's nothing dangerous or pernicious about it.

02:47:59.000 If people don't want to migrate over, they don't have to.

02:48:01.000 There's a lot more resiliency left.

02:48:04.000 The old internet that people thought four years ago.

02:48:09.000 But there are some real problems.

02:48:12.000 One is the allocation of IP addresses, that is, internet protocol addresses, sort of like phone numbers.

02:48:16.000 There aren't enough.

02:48:18.000 And so we need to eventually find a new way.

02:48:20.000 The question is when that's going to happen.

02:48:22.000 All right.

02:48:23.000 Declan McCullough, thanks for coming on with us.

02:48:24.000 My pleasure.

02:48:25.000 Thank you.

02:48:26.000 Give your websites out again one more time.

02:48:28.000 Go to news.com.

02:48:29.000 You can find stuff there.

02:48:31.000 Alright, take care my friend.

02:48:33.000 Charlotte, stay there. 0.98

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02:51:55.000 We did confirm that General Eberhardt yesterday said, how dare the Senator evacuate the Capitol?

02:52:00.000 That's not the threat, it's all these other places.

02:52:02.000 Florida, all these places, they will be attacked before the election.

02:52:06.000 And now we've got the Florida Sun Sentinel article, we're posting all those on PrisonPlanet.com here in the next few minutes.

02:52:13.000 And Daniel in Texas has got the Florida Sun Sentinel article in front of him.

02:52:18.000 Tell us all about it, Daniel.

02:52:19.000 I appreciate the opportunity, Alex.

02:52:21.000 Alright, so you have the Orlando Sun Sentinel here and it just came across the wire this morning and it says Florida National Guard troops who spent months patrolling the airport after the 2001 terrorist attacks may return to the terminals around the state soon.

02:52:34.000 The planning was prompted by a, quote, warning order received earlier this week by U.S.

02:52:39.000 Northern Command in Colorado, which is responsible.

02:52:41.000 We know about General Eberhardt at Northern Command.

02:52:43.000 They're going to be first responders.

02:52:44.000 They're going to suspend Posse Comitatus.

02:52:46.000 At the end here of the article it says, several Florida Guard soldiers who spoke on the condition that they not be identified said commanders had been seeking volunteers in recent days.

02:52:54.000 They said that they were told their duty would last between one and four months and that it might begin later this month.

02:52:59.000 Which mimics a lot of what the people in the Texas National Guard have been telling you, Alex.

02:53:03.000 I've got the documents.

02:53:04.000 They're doing martial law training.

02:53:06.000 They've been told it's going to happen.

02:53:08.000 And just more confirming this.

02:53:10.000 Thank you for the call.

02:53:11.000 Charlotte, is there any final comments on this and the phone number to get your book?

02:53:15.000 Well, the phone number to get my book, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, which is also in an e-book.

02:53:21.000 You can buy it either way, the hardcover or the electronic version, is 207 442-0543.

02:53:29.000 That's in Maine.

02:53:35.000 And I hope people will also go to my website, which is just full of information.

02:53:40.000 All of my articles, including my last article Many ways to get a cat which recommends voting for Perutka in order to get rid of Bush.

02:53:51.000 Alright, again that website is DeliberateDumbingDown.com.

02:53:57.000 And then your phone number again slowly.

02:53:59.000 207-442-0543.

02:53:59.000 Do you think we're going to see a staged terror attack before the election?

02:54:08.000 No.

02:54:13.000 You think we'll see it after?

02:54:15.000 No!

02:54:18.000 You don't think there'll be any more terror attacks?

02:54:21.000 You know what?

02:54:21.000 There may be, but I don't allow myself to buy into that.

02:54:26.000 And I think Americans better stop, because what difference does it make?

02:54:29.000 Well, the globalists are behind it, and that's why we need to... That's right!

02:54:33.000 But you know what it does to you?

02:54:35.000 It keeps you from moving forward and doing positive things.

02:54:38.000 Oh no, Charlotte, my dear, it makes me move faster.

02:54:42.000 Oh, that, yeah, you! 0.84

02:54:44.000 But, not me.

02:54:45.000 I mean, if I focus on another attack, and I keep listening to all of this stuff, which basically comes right out of the White House, huh?

02:54:53.000 I'm not going to be able to produce to write.

02:54:56.000 But we need to expose that they're behind it.

02:54:59.000 Hey, hey, Charlotte, we're out of time.

02:55:01.000 It was great having you on.

02:55:02.000 Very good.

02:55:03.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

02:55:04.000 You're awesome.

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02:56:11.000 Hope you have a great weekend.

02:56:13.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central, on the shortwave at 3210, and on your AM and FM stations and internet.

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02:56:23.000 No, we've got to focus on how the globalists are behind the terror and expose it so we can preemptively get them to stop it and not go ahead with it.

02:56:30.000 That is life or death.

Alex Jones Show - October 15, 2004

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