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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, I'll tell you, this week is blasting past us.

00:00:38.000 It's already Thursday, the 17th day of February 2005.

00:00:44.000 And I want to take a lot of your calls in this first hour, because we've got two guests coming up later in the second and third hour.

00:00:49.000 We'll also have open phones then, but we'll go to your calls coming up in the next segment, kind of like C-SPAN's Washington Journal.

00:00:57.000 Any news item, any news story, any question, any comment, you've got.

00:01:01.000 We're going to take your calls and we're going to move quick through your calls.

00:01:04.000 Give each caller about a minute and a half.

00:01:07.000 1-800-259-9231 is the toll-free number to join us.

00:01:14.000 This broadcast is all about liberty and freedom.

00:01:16.000 It's about exposing the New World Order. 0.84

00:01:18.000 It's about defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:01:22.000 And the Democrat and Republican parties are like termites destroying the guts of this nation and we've got to expose it. 0.73

00:01:30.000 But one termite's got a elephant on its back. 0.99

00:01:32.000 The other termite's got a donkey on its back. 0.63

00:01:35.000 And because the termites have little symbols on them, you go, I like these termites! 0.64

00:01:40.000 These are friendly termites.

00:01:41.000 They have an elephant on them.

00:01:43.000 Little elephant spot on them.

00:01:44.000 And ooh, I like these termites.

00:01:46.000 They have a donkey on them. 0.97

00:01:48.000 They all are termites, ladies and gentlemen. 0.97

00:01:50.000 We're in deep trouble. 0.86

00:01:54.000 AIDS cite worry on Al-Qaeda infiltration from Mexico.

00:02:01.000 They're doing it again.

00:02:02.000 They build up this anger, this concern about the open borders that is totally legitimate, take border patrol agents off the northern and southern border, that's the actual numbers, And then just bring raft after raft after platter after salvo of legislation with the word immigration tagged onto it.

00:02:25.000 Has nothing to do with illegal immigration.

00:02:28.000 Everything to do with controlling the American people.

00:02:31.000 And they're doing it again.

00:02:32.000 I mean, now it's on a weekly basis.

00:02:35.000 U.S.

00:02:35.000 aides cite worry on Al-Siada infiltration from Mexico.

00:02:39.000 This out of the New York Times, new intelligence information strongly suggests that Al-Siada, again they say Al-Qaeda, I say their true name, Al-Siada, of the foundation of CIA controlled Islamic terror.

00:02:52.000 New information strongly suggests that Al-Siada, we must unlearn what we've learned, we must change the words that they've created back into their true meanings.

00:03:02.000 That's how we defeat them.

00:03:03.000 That's one big part of it.

00:03:04.000 New intelligence information strongly suggests that Al-CiAda has considered infiltrating the United States through the Mexican border, top government officials told Congress on Wednesday.

00:03:18.000 And so, we'd all better carry our good little national ID cards, or the LCIA-das will get us, but the illegal aliens don't have to have them, but they don't mention that in the article, so the average person hears this and goes, man, Bush is really doing something about it.

00:03:34.000 So, more details of that are coming up.

00:03:36.000 Also, Bush to tap Necroponte as Intel Director.

00:03:43.000 And I have dubbed him Lord of the Death Squads.

00:03:47.000 He is a singularly wicked creature, and he fits in nicely with the gaggle of vampires surrounding Lord Bush the Twitly.

00:04:00.000 And so we will be going over that for you.

00:04:04.000 Also, Australian government keeping secret database of people who criticize its policies.

00:04:09.000 Schwarzenegger plan has Republicans wary.

00:04:12.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

00:04:14.000 They just come right out and go, oh yeah, the Republican plan to put him in the White House.

00:04:19.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:04:21.000 They're a little wary of some of the things he wants to do.

00:04:23.000 But that's okay.

00:04:24.000 He's going to be our new Lord and Master.

00:04:26.000 I mean, if they can make the American people take a foreigner, an Ouslander, then we'll put up with anything, won't we? 1.00

00:04:37.000 And jailed immigrants may go to Mexico prison.

00:04:41.000 Our government may build prisons in Mexico.

00:04:45.000 Globalism, yes!

00:04:47.000 It's all coming up after this quick break.

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00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:09.000 You want answers?

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, as we defend liberty and resist tyranny, Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central Standard Time, back from 9 to midnight. - All right.

00:08:37.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:08:41.000 We're going to have wide-open phones throughout the broadcast today, and we've got two big guests coming on, one in the third hour, who's exposing Mr. Negroponte, to be the new National Security Advisor, National Intel Director.

00:08:59.000 He's the current ambassador to Iraq, and he was the chief organizer and commander, I would call him a lord, or a commissar, or you could choose the term if you liked, Commodore of the death squads in Latin America. 0.86

00:09:19.000 And you can go, well they were fat and cummies. 1.00

00:09:23.000 Uh, yeah, while our government was giving all the weapons systems to Russia and China and making deals with China to de-industrialize this country and giving them all the different awards through the United Nations, death squads were marching all over Latin America pulling out whole families and machine gunning them and throwing them in pits and raping and killing people's wives and children in front of them. 0.98

00:09:48.000 It's all admitted.

00:09:49.000 And just absolute terror.

00:09:52.000 Men in black uniforms, black ski masks.

00:09:55.000 You can look at photos from the 70s and 80s of death squads.

00:09:59.000 And it's a modern SWAT team outfit.

00:10:02.000 Of course, you can also look at photos from the 60s and 70s in Russia.

00:10:06.000 And they wore the same outfit.

00:10:08.000 Black ski masks and black uniforms are real big in the Balkans, too.

00:10:13.000 And, uh, if you look at the Bush Administration, they're all lovers of torture, lovers of death, lovers of evil, lovers of abortion, lovers of open borders, uh, lovers of gun control, lovers of just, it's pure evil!

00:10:27.000 Just absolute pure evil.

00:10:28.000 Uh, but meanwhile, Gonzales seeks to reinstate obscenity case.

00:10:36.000 Why?

00:10:36.000 They had a press conference about it.

00:10:39.000 They're gonna stop people We were making porno movies in California!

00:10:45.000 Now, look.

00:10:48.000 The point is, is that here's Gonzales, who pushes in Texas for 12-year-olds not having to tell their parents when they go have abortions.

00:10:57.000 But your 12-year-old, again, has to get a permission slip to go to the zoo for a field trip, or the planetarium, or the movie theater.

00:11:06.000 Or to the city library.

00:11:08.000 But they can go have an abortion. 1.00

00:11:10.000 So let's kill babies! 1.00

00:11:12.000 But he has to act like he's conservative, so he'll now do this and be hailed as, Man, he's a real conservative boy! 0.99

00:11:18.000 Uh, thank goodness he's there to do absolutely nothing.

00:11:23.000 Uh, you know, to pornography.

00:11:26.000 Uh, that, uh, is developing into more and more just out of control, uh, decadence.

00:11:34.000 Another sign of the society in serious decline.

00:11:38.000 But the point is, is that it's not meant to stop anything.

00:11:40.000 It's not going to stop anything.

00:11:42.000 It's a photo-op.

00:11:44.000 Well, I will prosecute somebody that made porno movies.

00:11:48.000 And now we're really conservative.

00:11:51.000 And it's just, it's theater.

00:11:53.000 It's like one of the insiders of 9-11, Porter Goss, who was there with the head of Al-Qaeda on the morning of 9-11.

00:12:02.000 Having a delicious meal.

00:12:04.000 Eggs Benedict, it was reported.

00:12:06.000 With the man who wired $100,000 to the lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta.

00:12:10.000 General Mahmood Ahmad of Pakistani Intel.

00:12:13.000 And involved in the cover-up of 9-11 and a long-time CIA officer.

00:12:17.000 They just told us about it a year ago.

00:12:18.000 Oh, he's been a lifetime CIA agent.

00:12:21.000 He's the new director.

00:12:21.000 We like to have CIA officers in Congress.

00:12:24.000 And, well, now we've just got to give all our rights up or Al Qaeda's going to attack us from the southern border.

00:12:32.000 Again, they put the label that, oh, southern border, open border is dangerous.

00:12:36.000 It has nothing to do with that.

00:12:37.000 They're not going to control that.

00:12:39.000 Then they propose more legislation to take our freedoms.

00:12:42.000 It's like the last two national ID card bills, one that completely passed Congress in December, the one that passed the House last week.

00:12:49.000 We talked about that again yesterday.

00:12:51.000 Well, now, they just keep beefing it up, expanding it.

00:12:56.000 But putting loopholes for the illegal aliens in it. 0.85

00:12:59.000 So very, very serious.

00:13:01.000 That's all gonna be coming up as well with more details of that.

00:13:06.000 Some good news and then I'm going to your calls.

00:13:09.000 Remember a couple days ago we had the father on who first said no at Sutter California Elementary School, Brittany Elementary School, where they wear these huge RFID tracker chips around their necks that track everything they do in the school.

00:13:26.000 And he said no, and a bunch of other parents started questioning it.

00:13:29.000 A few others said no.

00:13:31.000 And the company that was doing it, pushing it, has now pulled out because lawsuits were being prepared.

00:13:39.000 And the father we had on the broadcast wasn't aware this was going on all over the country.

00:13:45.000 But if you just type in RFID tracking children in schools, you'll get just literally dozens of reports around the country of it happening.

00:13:54.000 And so you should Look for that, and it may already be going on in your school district, and fight it.

00:14:01.000 But this is out of the Associated Press.

00:14:04.000 Company pulls out of deal to track students, the grade school that required students to wear radio frequency identification badges.

00:14:11.000 The contractor every move has ended the program because the company that developed the technology pulled out.

00:14:17.000 I'm disappointed.

00:14:19.000 That's about all I can say at this point, said Ernie Graham, the superintendent and principal of Brittany Elementary School in Sutter, California, said Tuesday night.

00:14:29.000 I think I let my staff down.

00:14:31.000 Nobody on this campus knows every student.

00:14:34.000 The badges developed by Sutter-based technology group, IncomCorp, were introduced January 18th.

00:14:41.000 The school board was set to talk about the controversial policy Tuesday night, but tabled the discussion after ICOM announced it was terminating the agreement.

00:14:50.000 I'm not convinced it's over.

00:14:51.000 Parent Don Cantrell, who filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union, told the Marysville Appeal Democrat, I'm happy for now that kids are not being tagged, but I'm still fighting to keep it out of our school system.

00:15:06.000 It has to stop here.

00:15:08.000 The system was imposed without parental input, but the school as a way of simplifying attendance taking and potentially reduced vandalism and improved safety of the students.

00:15:19.000 You know, sure it was.

00:15:20.000 Technology scares some people.

00:15:24.000 It's a fear of the unknown.

00:15:26.000 Parent Mary Browner.

00:15:28.000 Uh, told the newspaper before the meeting.

00:15:30.000 Any kind of new technology has the potential for misuse, but I feel confident the school is not going to misuse it.

00:15:36.000 Yeah, I love this attitude of, I don't test my neighbor.

00:15:41.000 Yeah, why don't you just go over to your neighbor and say, here, I'm hooking up a phone line splice to my house.

00:15:47.000 Anytime you want to listen to me, you just listen.

00:15:49.000 And here, I'm going to put cameras in my house.

00:15:51.000 Anytime you want to watch me, just watch me.

00:15:53.000 Or anytime you want, you know, I'm going to give the whole neighborhood keys to my house.

00:15:58.000 You wouldn't do that.

00:15:59.000 You don't trust your neighbors.

00:16:00.000 And you shouldn't entirely trust them.

00:16:02.000 But you should trust them more than you trust this government.

00:16:06.000 Where people who abuse power, who are ruthless, who lie, who are cunning, rise to the top.

00:16:12.000 That's just history and facts and common sense.

00:16:14.000 What the Founding Fathers warned you about.

00:16:16.000 But now they say, oh no, I just trust them.

00:16:18.000 I just think they're so nice.

00:16:20.000 When their own documents say they're going to tax and trace and control us with this RFID. 1.00

00:16:26.000 When they admit they're going to enslave you with it, you sit there like a drooling idiot! 1.00

00:16:30.000 And you're just morons! 1.00

00:16:33.000 People like you! 1.00

00:16:35.000 So you think you're part of the system?

00:16:36.000 Well, I'm not afraid of it!

00:16:38.000 I'm not a troglodyte!

00:16:40.000 I'm not an anti-technology zealot on some type of botlerian jihad!

00:16:46.000 I'm gonna go along with it!

00:16:51.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:16:52.000 I'm a little bit out of control today.

00:16:53.000 Jerry in Colorado.

00:16:54.000 You're on the air.

00:16:55.000 Thanks for holding.

00:16:56.000 Hi, Alex.

00:16:57.000 How you doing?

00:16:58.000 Good.

00:16:59.000 On Tuesday, one of your callers was a 14-year-old young man, and you were giving him some advice on how to avoid being absorbed into the beast.

00:17:10.000 Well, I just said don't take drugs and get educated and get involved in sports.

00:17:16.000 Well, that's what I disagree with, the sports part.

00:17:19.000 My opinion is that sports is actually a major sickness in this country.

00:17:24.000 It's actually decadence the way it's an obsession with so many Americans.

00:17:30.000 But see, decadence is taking something that's good and going too far with it.

00:17:34.000 It's like gluttony.

00:17:36.000 I mean, I think the watching of it, you know, 20 hours a week, the worship of it, the tribal nature of the big events, being a spectator, I think at this level is sick.

00:17:45.000 But I think it's really good for young people to get them into a lot of different swimming and track and football and baseball and softball and wrestling.

00:17:54.000 I mean, I think it's wonderful.

00:17:56.000 Well, the reason I disagree is based on my high school sports experience.

00:18:01.000 It conditions people to accept... It's very hierarchical.

00:18:04.000 I can't even talk.

00:18:05.000 Hierarchical.

00:18:06.000 Sometimes I can't say a word.

00:18:08.000 It's all about a hierarchy type system.

00:18:12.000 And worship the football players.

00:18:14.000 I know that, but what I'm... Go ahead and make your point.

00:18:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:18:17.000 Well, it programs people to be blind, unquestioning, obedient lackeys.

00:18:22.000 And it conditions people to accept groupthink.

00:18:26.000 As you pointed out many times, if the citizens in this country use just 1% of the time, money, and energy that they spend on the national sports obsession, studying the Constitution or history, how much better off we'd be.

00:18:41.000 Did you ever see Hearts and Minds, about 1970, that film making the connection between the simulated warfare of football and the unconstitutional and immoral war in Vietnam?

00:18:54.000 No, but I mean the government is now trying to compare the war to football.

00:18:58.000 They do that in ads and in propaganda and they even sell like W bumper stickers that show like W on the football helmet like it's rah rah our team and it's just like Rome with the gladiatorial diversions Well, I'd agree there.

00:19:13.000 Thank you, sir.

00:19:14.000 Hey, I appreciate the call.

00:19:14.000 They know it's innate in us to have simulated warfare.

00:19:17.000 And so they know how to manipulate that.

00:19:21.000 But I don't think, I mean, we still have that in us.

00:19:24.000 And I think that if you're participating in it, I'd much rather have young people out involved in sports than snorting cocaine.

00:19:32.000 Well, I'd agree there.

00:19:34.000 Thank you, sir.

00:19:35.000 Hey, I appreciate the call.

00:19:36.000 I have always been able to say hierarchical.

00:19:40.000 And I literally was trying to mouth it while he was talking, and I can't say it.

00:19:44.000 Did you ever get like a tongue twister on a word?

00:19:47.000 And I literally cannot say for the life of me right now.

00:19:51.000 But I'm going to practice it during the break.

00:19:52.000 We'll see if I can say it when we get back.

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00:24:09.000 My goodness.

00:24:11.000 As soon as I got into the break, I could say it.

00:24:15.000 I guess I get nervous.

00:24:16.000 Getting nervous on the radio.

00:24:19.000 That's a good feeling.

00:24:20.000 I haven't felt nervous on the radio in a long time.

00:24:22.000 All right.

00:24:24.000 We're back live, folks, and we're taking your phone calls.

00:24:26.000 Any issue you'd like to discuss.

00:24:27.000 Eric in Connecticut.

00:24:29.000 You're on the air.

00:24:30.000 Go ahead.

00:24:31.000 Hey, Alex.

00:24:31.000 Welcome again from Skull and Bones Country.

00:24:33.000 Thank you.

00:24:34.000 The Christian conservative country, yes.

00:24:36.000 That's right.

00:24:36.000 I think it was Mark Twain that said, no man's life, liberty, and property are safe when the legislature is in session.

00:24:42.000 Well, that's right.

00:24:43.000 He did say that, didn't he?

00:24:44.000 Yeah.

00:24:44.000 Sounds kind of Al-Qaeda.

00:24:46.000 She was probably controlled by Al-Qaeda.

00:24:48.000 Well, we may end up getting interned down at Gitmo for saying this, you know?

00:24:52.000 You know, I think Mr. Gonzalez needs to stop worrying about California porno films and pay attention a little closer to home.

00:25:00.000 What apparently started as like an inconvenient and embarrassing misadventure is morphing into a potential powder keg for this administration.

00:25:09.000 This Jeff Gannon, supposedly a reporter, along with several other Hannity Limbaugh clones, was apparently hired to ask softball questions at George Bush's press conference.

00:25:20.000 Well, he actually, the media is spinning it.

00:25:22.000 It's admitted he's paid through an organization controlled by the Bush administration and they gave him a fake name so he wouldn't be recognized and targeted.

00:25:32.000 What the media focuses on, is he going to get in trouble for giving a fake name?

00:25:36.000 No!

00:25:36.000 It was part of the scam!

00:25:38.000 Well, there are several laminations here and it seems like the bloggers, and I don't know how true this is, but apparently It's the old Franklin cover-up rearing its ugly head again, because from what I'm understanding, there's a possibility of underage gay prostitutes in the White House again. 0.97

00:25:57.000 Well, we've got the Washington Times headline on that. 0.96

00:26:01.000 Back in 89, they ran a headline and apparently... In fact, I don't have that in front of me, but it just says gay prostitutes. 0.98

00:26:11.000 What's that headline? 0.93

00:26:12.000 I mean, I've got the news article, I just don't remember it.

00:26:14.000 I think it was VIP prostitute ring ensnares Reagan Bush. 1.00

00:26:20.000 Something like that. 0.89

00:26:21.000 Yeah, that's the headline, yeah.

00:26:22.000 Okay, and it was a whole write-up, and I think there were several, maybe two or three other articles in papers regarding this. 0.98

00:26:30.000 But apparently this whole hiring scandal goes much deeper, and I think it also ties into gay porno and prostitutes, underage gay prostitutes in the White House involving the hiring.

00:26:47.000 I haven't read that about this case, but I've certainly seen that over the years in a bunch of other mainstream publications, thanks for the call. 0.97

00:26:54.000 I mean, I've got the New York Post headline, Top Gay Porn Star Services VIPs at Bohemian Grove.

00:27:02.000 And I mean, I've got spy magazine articles, AP articles, from the 80s, where they just bus in the male prostitutes. 0.97

00:27:11.000 And yes, the White House, during conservative administrations, It has come up with the underage, we're talking 16-year-old and younger, male prostitutes. 0.79

00:27:23.000 I mean, it blows the mind that this kind of stuff is going on. 0.93

00:27:28.000 But hey, they say they're Christian and conservative.

00:27:30.000 I mean, why? 0.97

00:27:31.000 Gonzales is going after porn right now.

00:27:35.000 Yeah, but he's not going after Dyncor, caught kidnapping 200,000 women and children.

00:27:39.000 They were convicted in civil court.

00:27:41.000 It all came out in Yugoslavia. 0.99

00:27:45.000 No, no, they just get more contracts.

00:27:47.000 It's all window dressing.

00:27:49.000 And it's so evil, just the average person can't even begin to face it.

00:27:54.000 Who's up next here?

00:27:57.000 Myron in South Dakota, then Carlos and Mike and others.

00:28:00.000 Go ahead, Myron.

00:28:01.000 Yes, Alex, there's a new book out.

00:28:03.000 I don't know if you've reviewed it or seen it.

00:28:06.000 It's called The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.

00:28:12.000 He's a Ph.D.

00:28:15.000 and he's a friend of a Regnery, and he's a professor at American History in New York State, one of the state colleges.

00:28:23.000 Have you seen that book?

00:28:24.000 No, but if it's Regnery, it's probably Neocon.

00:28:27.000 The hell is not.

00:28:28.000 The New York Times said a lengthy article by Adam Cohen, a real hard-hitting diatribe against the book in the editorial page.

00:28:38.000 Well, I haven't seen it, but they do that.

00:28:39.000 They'll have a limited political spectrum, and then they'll have false debates within the spectrum, and then that fools us to think that there's an alternative there, then we contain ourselves within the limited choices.

00:28:50.000 But I haven't read the book, so I'm not... I'm not... I have no right to comment on it.

00:28:56.000 I mean, tell me about the book.

00:28:57.000 I read a review of it in the New American Magazine for this month, or this week.

00:29:02.000 that is February 21st issue, and he addressed the issue of slavery.

00:29:08.000 For instance, the politically correct civil war, he contends that it was war of northern aggression.

00:29:15.000 And he has a quote by Ulysses S. Grant, if I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side.

00:29:25.000 Well, that's what Lincoln said that too.

00:29:29.000 I know, and then he goes on, issue after issue.

00:29:32.000 Sir, I wouldn't condemn the book.

00:29:34.000 I'd read it first.

00:29:35.000 I didn't condemn the book.

00:29:37.000 I just said normally, Regnery sends me, it's probably in my mailbox, they send me everything they publish.

00:29:43.000 Okay, it's politically incorrect.

00:29:45.000 Okay, I know, we heard about it.

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00:33:09.000 Coming up in the second hour, here in about 26 minutes, we'll be talking to Cindy Sheehan.

00:33:16.000 She was going to be on with us Monday, but she had a veterinary emergency with a cat, I think she said.

00:33:22.000 But she'll be joining us in the next hour, mother of Army Specialist Casey Austin Sheehan, killed in action in the middle of last year, and she's the co-founder of Gold Star Families for Peace.

00:33:38.000 We'll cover the related news article, Not Worth My Son's Sacrifice.

00:33:42.000 And then at one o'clock, ladies and gentlemen, we have Matthew Rothschild joining us.

00:33:50.000 And you do not want to miss that interview to talk about Mr. Necroponte and to talk to Mr. Rothschild.

00:33:58.000 So that should be a lot of fun as well.

00:34:01.000 We're going to go to Carlos, and Michael, and Larry, and Harvey, and everybody here in just one moment.

00:34:08.000 But first, syndicated talk show host Jack Blobs called in.

00:34:11.000 Jack, how are you doing today?

00:34:13.000 Hey, I'm great, Alex.

00:34:14.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:34:15.000 A couple of quick comments.

00:34:16.000 First of all, I had Thomas Woods on my program, and he did a fantastic job.

00:34:21.000 Probably the second Regnery author I've ever had that was worth anything.

00:34:27.000 I mean, earlier I said I haven't read the book.

00:34:29.000 I can't really comment on it.

00:34:30.000 I just, most stuff that comes out of Regnery is, let's put people in concentration camps.

00:34:34.000 You're right.

00:34:35.000 I mean, they are, see, I believe you need to trace them back to the CIA, Eagle Publishing, and Al Regnery, and Oliver North, and all of that.

00:34:41.000 So, you're right to cast a weary eye on that, but he's really great.

00:34:45.000 So, if you get a chance, maybe bring him on.

00:34:47.000 I think he does a fantastic job on really painting an accurate picture of history.

00:34:51.000 Have you had a chance to talk to him?

00:34:52.000 Well, by the way, I've even interviewed, I mean, I've interviewed the publisher of Regnery on this broadcast.

00:34:57.000 Yeah, well, he's something else.

00:34:58.000 You're right again to be a little bit weary of them, but there are exceptions.

00:35:02.000 In fact, the guy that used to carry the nuclear football for Clinton, Buzz, I can't remember his last name, but he was another guy that was also really good and really painted the picture.

00:35:12.000 No, I've interviewed him about all the stuff he saw Clinton do, yeah.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, so he was good.

00:35:18.000 Hey, listen, have you had a chance to talk about Iran and what happened in Iran yesterday?

00:35:21.000 Because there was a massive spike in a cover-up of that story. 0.88

00:35:24.000 It's just getting ridiculous.

00:35:25.000 Well, there was a dam, and it got blown up, but then the Iranians came out and said, don't panic, it was a scheduled demolition. 0.96

00:35:33.000 Well, now the story has changed, actually, to the effect of a plane, a jet plane, lost its engine.

00:35:40.000 And that's what started the explosion.

00:35:42.000 Now, initially, this was reported on Iranian state-run TV, that a missile had come from an airplane, reported all around the world.

00:35:49.000 And I literally watched this story.

00:35:51.000 No, I saw the report.

00:35:52.000 It burned and spiked all throughout the day.

00:35:54.000 It was something to behold, really.

00:35:55.000 No, I saw the spin.

00:35:57.000 And we know that globalist forces are in Iran openly trying to overthrow it.

00:36:02.000 What, about a year ago?

00:36:03.000 They had all the fires and riots there.

00:36:06.000 And we know that special forces, U.S.

00:36:10.000 troops are in the country.

00:36:11.000 It looks like Japan to me back in World War II where they're trying to provoke them into making a move. 0.86

00:36:16.000 Obviously, I don't think Iran wants to do anything until they have that bomb ready to go. 0.66

00:36:20.000 Well, it's like when the ship, it's like when the ship, it's like when the ship back in the 80s shot down the jumbo jet full of Iranians. 1.00

00:36:30.000 Well, I think it's on, Alex.

00:36:31.000 In fact, last night, you had to see this on Nightline.

00:36:33.000 If anybody has a copy of this, I'm sure you're going to want this, Alex.

00:36:37.000 They ran the entire Nightline show, a war game, with smallpox hitting the world.

00:36:42.000 Madeleine Albright acted as the American president.

00:36:45.000 She was making the argument for the Americans that the vaccine and withholding vaccines from Muslims might be a good way to cull some of the Muslims politically, and they had to look at it as a political advantage. 0.98

00:36:55.000 Well, let me stop you.

00:36:56.000 union actors were saying we need to vaccinate the world it was really scary if you didn't know that it was a war game that it was all fake you would have tuned into nightline on a_b_c_ last night and thought that uh...

00:37:07.000 the proverbial you know what it the family let me stop you about four years ago before nine eleven they had a five-night series which started on a friday and then ran to the next thursday on my point where at the first they would say this is a simulation Then they would show footage of, uh, you know, riots after hurricanes or whatever, but wouldn't tell you it was, because if a hurricane was real footage, they would tell you smallpox has been released.

00:37:32.000 Uh, 25 million are dead.

00:37:34.000 Martial law has been declared. 0.91

00:37:36.000 You're telling me they did it again and Albright was talking about withholding vaccines from Muslims?

00:37:40.000 Yeah, they did a whole new show of Nightline just to run this war game.

00:37:44.000 And every once in a while they put a little disclaimer on your TV set, this is just a simulation, it's not real.

00:37:50.000 But you're telling me, you're telling me, I mean she's famous for saying 700,000 dead Iraqi children is a good price to pay for security in the Gulf.

00:37:56.000 Right.

00:37:57.000 You're telling me that she said last night, you know, in the drill, by the way she's foreign born folks, she's Czechoslovakian, her dad was a commissar, conservatively killed, this is mainstream folks, a million people.

00:38:09.000 And then ran to Serbia, they protected her, and then of course decades later she bombed them with pleasure, and they had her on TV and pictures of her going, we helped you, why are you doing this to us?

00:38:18.000 And of course stole their artwork, their gold, their treasure.

00:38:22.000 That's been in the news, stolen artwork in her house. 1.00

00:38:24.000 I mean, she's a monster. 1.00

00:38:25.000 So they had a foreigner simulating as our president, and then she says, now be specific, she said in the piece that we may want to withhold vaccines from the Muslims. 0.98

00:38:37.000 This was a long argument as more death polls were coming in across the country interwoven with a fake newscast going out through the country reporting more deaths by the CDC.

00:38:48.000 Her argument, which she kept coming back to again and again, Alex, was this should be used as a political tool. 0.99

00:38:53.000 This is a trauma-based mind control.

00:38:56.000 Obviously, and conditioning.

00:38:57.000 And I'll tell you, you take a look at, you know, you can look at my website, jackblood.com, for just the last month, and look at all of the news.

00:39:03.000 It's staggering.

00:39:04.000 But just yesterday, if you take that one little window apart, just the news from yesterday alone, and what the media was doing in the way of con... It is fantastic.

00:39:14.000 Something was happening yesterday, Alex.

00:39:16.000 I think they kicked it up another notch.

00:39:17.000 Well, I mean, they are kicking it up another notch.

00:39:22.000 The Microsoft founder, of course, Bill Gates, working with Norway, giving a billion dollars with the plan to immunize the entire world's children by 2015.

00:39:31.000 I mean, all of this really goes together, as you know.

00:39:34.000 I hear you, Jack.

00:39:35.000 Good to hear from you.

00:39:36.000 Thank you.

00:39:36.000 Doing a good job.

00:39:37.000 You better take care.

00:39:38.000 Yeah, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation They love the children of the world so much.

00:39:46.000 They fund special vaccine duty.

00:39:50.000 And of course, Prince Philip does that as well, and Ted Turner does, and they all give to these big vaccine funds that go around, admittedly, and forcibly inoculate whole villages and towns.

00:40:03.000 They say, if you want any IMF or World Bank money, you've got to accept these UN troops coming in and vaccinating you.

00:40:08.000 And the parents, this has been in the BBC, will flee the villages, running with their children from the vaccines, because they know They say, after we take the vaccines our children get sick, many of them die.

00:40:21.000 But you've got to wonder, why is Prince Philip or Ted Turner, both of them who openly talk about getting rid of 80-95% of us in public speeches and books they've written, who talk about overpopulation and all this Malthusian garbage, why are they so obsessed with giving you vaccines so you don't die?

00:40:39.000 We have to save the children!

00:40:41.000 Oh, we need to get rid of 80-95% of people, but here, take a shot!

00:40:46.000 I also want you all to live. 0.52

00:40:48.000 We don't want you to get sick.

00:40:51.000 And then we have the documents.

00:40:52.000 AIDS, HIV was engineered by the Defense Department.

00:40:56.000 And we have a government trying to set the precedent to forcibly inoculate the American people.

00:41:01.000 Now, I didn't see Nightline last night, but if you saw her, you're welcome to call in.

00:41:04.000 Carlos in California, thanks for holding her on the air.

00:41:06.000 Go ahead.

00:41:08.000 Hi, Alex.

00:41:08.000 You're out of control, buddy.

00:41:11.000 I think the whole world's out of control, but go ahead.

00:41:14.000 Well, Alex, we're talking about the death squad in Negroponte.

00:41:20.000 You know, some of these death squads were trained at Fort Benning, Georgia, here in the military base, Army base, Fort Benning, Georgia.

00:41:32.000 And there were some luminaries, they trained a lot of Latin America guerrilla leaders, Including Manuel Noriega, who was trained there, the president of Panama.

00:41:43.000 Also, Roberto Guavizon, who became president of El Salvador.

00:41:50.000 And of course, all these people went on to lead the death squad in El Salvador, Honduras.

00:41:56.000 They created all the terror.

00:41:59.000 That forced a lot of people to flee out of there, and then come into the United States as the illegal aliens, you know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:42:07.000 Oh no, you're absolutely right.

00:42:08.000 Because the thing is the cycle that's created.

00:42:12.000 Well, Necroponte, I mean I dub him Lord of the Death Squads, he was there managing and running all of it, and tens of thousands of troops were trained in how to hook electrodes to people, how to torture them, just sheer terror, going into villages, killing whole families, And it had nothing to do with fighting communism.

00:42:30.000 It was about controlling the drug production zones.

00:42:34.000 Well, exactly.

00:42:35.000 Right now, from what I understand, it was the School of the Americas that is training these people to cooperate in Georgia.

00:42:41.000 Of course, it changed its name now to something else.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, they changed the name two years ago, yeah.

00:42:47.000 Right, but right now they're training a lot of Colombians.

00:42:51.000 And you can see the problems brewing in Colombia!

00:42:55.000 By the way, they're hiring the old death squad colonels and commanders and paying them $400,000, $300,000 a year and they're sending them to Iraq because they can't get our own people en masse to torture.

00:43:08.000 So they're actually sending, the last numbers I saw were hundreds of these guys to be torture masters.

00:43:14.000 They're actually hiring these Latin Americans who did it before to send them over there. 0.99

00:43:20.000 Exactly, so you know our CIA is training all these guerrilla leaders out there and they spread them across the world to spread terror across their countries and of course then people start flying out of there because of the terror and the corporations start moving into all these areas that they leave desolate and they start taking over.

00:43:40.000 Another thing here real quick, I was looking at the history of the neoconservatives Alex, there's a guy named Leo Strauss Well, apparently he is the guru of the Neoconservative.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, professor at the Chicago University, yeah.

00:43:54.000 Right, but guess who brought him there?

00:43:56.000 John D. Rockefeller, okay?

00:43:59.000 So the whole neoconservative philosophy, you can probably trace it to the big banking families.

00:44:05.000 Well, look, we've interviewed people who were in the same classes with Strauss, who were in class with all of these neocons, you know, top neocons today, and I mean, this is admitted, this is like mainstream folks.

00:44:19.000 The entire Republican hierarchy were the Communist Fourth International.

00:44:23.000 And they couldn't win as communists, and they actually met and said, we're going to become neoconservatives, And we believe in fascism.

00:44:32.000 We believe that's the better model.

00:44:34.000 And we're going to seize control by becoming conservatives and getting control of the conservative movement in America.

00:44:40.000 And that's who they are.

00:44:43.000 And Strauss was an admirer of Hitler.

00:44:47.000 Even though he was Jewish, he said, I don't admire Hitler going after Jews, but I admire his model.

00:44:53.000 And so it's a fusion of radical communism and Hitlerism. 0.56

00:45:00.000 And look at it today.

00:45:01.000 Homeland Security, the black uniforms, the secret arrest.

00:45:04.000 They're recreating it.

00:45:07.000 They love it.

00:45:08.000 Well of course, and the Rockefellers had a lot to do with it. 0.95

00:45:10.000 They were the owners of... Just like they funded Hitler. 0.94

00:45:13.000 It's the same story over and over again.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, Standard Oil, which merged with IG Farben over in Germany, which was creating the petrochemicals that were being used to gas all the Jews in all these concentration camps.

00:45:26.000 Well, IG Farben certainly was involved in all of it, and so was Brown Brother Harriman.

00:45:31.000 Good to hear from you.

00:45:33.000 Yep, that's true.

00:45:34.000 I mean, our government... Our bombers couldn't bomb the Ford And GM plants building the tanks and trucks.

00:45:42.000 It's admitted.

00:45:43.000 And IBM had their technicians there at all the camps.

00:45:46.000 And they would decide to keep somebody alive or not.

00:45:49.000 They had a tabulating machine.

00:45:50.000 That's what the tattoos were for.

00:45:52.000 They would take calipers and measure your fat and your height and your age and enter the computer.

00:45:56.000 And the computer would say whether to kill you or not, how long to work you, what to do with you.

00:46:02.000 And that's IBM's behind the ID cards and the RFID.

00:46:06.000 All these systems today, of course.

00:46:09.000 Not very nice folks, but Mike in Arizona, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:46:15.000 Morning, Alex.

00:46:15.000 Hello.

00:46:16.000 I wanted to ask you, considering FDR's dictum of nothing happens in politics without a reason, what happened in this election in Iraq?

00:46:29.000 It looks like, or what's being advertised is that you've got a Shiite regime now, Or certainly Shiite-friendly. 0.96

00:46:38.000 Why would they have allowed that to happen?

00:46:40.000 Or do you even accept that?

00:46:41.000 Well, you know that the Constitution they have allows if, what is it, if 10% of the votes of the council members are against it, that's a veto power.

00:46:54.000 And I saw the numbers a couple weeks ago, and I'm trying to pull them up here, and I think the Sunnis will have about 20% votes.

00:47:02.000 And so basically it's a stalemate And of course, the Shiites say, keep the military here. 0.99

00:47:08.000 And then in a few cases, as I predicted, they put a few wild cards in.

00:47:11.000 Ooh, look, somebody who's against this one.

00:47:13.000 You know, and they're over some little town or city.

00:47:16.000 And really, it's all just staged.

00:47:18.000 They've created a balkanized system, like the Romans would do, that they control. 1.00

00:47:24.000 You just view it as completely ineffectual.

00:47:27.000 I don't even believe the election results.

00:47:29.000 Secret polling places wouldn't let people know who the candidates were.

00:47:33.000 I mean, I don't believe any of it.

00:47:35.000 We have election fraud here, and there's a lot of others.

00:47:38.000 There was, of course, total fraud over there.

00:47:40.000 But regardless, what they've set up is a system where there really is no government.

00:47:47.000 I mean, everything is just parity and gridlock.

00:47:51.000 I honestly don't know.

00:47:53.000 is the tanks and helicopters.

00:47:55.000 Okay, all right, I was just curious.

00:47:58.000 What's your analysis of it?

00:48:01.000 I honestly don't know.

00:48:04.000 I haven't heard any reliable accounts from any Iraqis that I have any faith in what really happened over there.

00:48:12.000 What they did is, this is admitted, they busted out record amounts of aid.

00:48:17.000 They had just piled up on huge pallets and warehouses.

00:48:21.000 And when you came to vote, they were given a little slip and you could go and get extra rations.

00:48:26.000 So just showing up to vote, you got food and no oversight how the votes were taken.

00:48:34.000 And I mean it's just it's a fraud.

00:48:37.000 It's a little like the Democrats handing out cigarettes in Chicago or wherever that was last presidential election.

00:48:43.000 Sure.

00:48:43.000 To excuse the population that votes.

00:48:46.000 Sure.

00:48:47.000 And a lot of people there, a lot of polling places were closed or were supposed to be open.

00:48:51.000 What?

00:48:51.000 A third of the country or more than a third didn't have voting on election day.

00:48:55.000 Remember?

00:48:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:56.000 So large sectors of Because they couldn't have the Sunnis getting 30-40% so they had to shut down a lot of the Sunni areas for no voting.

00:49:07.000 What I worry about is them leaving a very pro-Iranian government there and then creating the pretext to go back in and utterly destroy the whole region. 1.00

00:49:21.000 Well, I think a lot of the experts we've talked to are saying that they're just going to start a war with Iran and then that it's going to blow up from there.

00:49:30.000 Yeah.

00:49:31.000 I mean, they want World War III.

00:49:32.000 I mean, they're really setting this up.

00:49:34.000 Yeah, I remember H.G.

00:49:35.000 Wells predicted that we would have World War III in Viet Basra.

00:49:41.000 I think he made that prediction back in about 1933.

00:49:45.000 Oh, they're a little bit behind their own timetable, but it is unfolding before our eyes.

00:49:52.000 You know, it's amazing the things that H.G.

00:49:54.000 Wells predicted.

00:49:55.000 You know, he was an insider.

00:49:56.000 He didn't just write War of the Worlds, folks.

00:49:59.000 He wrote non-fiction books.

00:50:01.000 He was kind of a futurist there in the Royal Institute of International Affairs court, the heart of what we call the CFR today in America, with a British counterpart.

00:50:13.000 Yeah, he wrote a number of books.

00:50:14.000 that by the way, a couple months ago changed its name.

00:50:16.000 They keep doing that.

00:50:17.000 A lot of that's happening now.

00:50:18.000 I confuse people, throw folks off.

00:50:20.000 But he wrote the book New World Order in the late 30s.

00:50:24.000 Yeah, he wrote a number of books that were, I guess we view them as prophetic, but like you say, he was a strongly committed Fabian socialist, and he knew what their plans were.

00:50:35.000 Well, and he said, there's going to be a lot of valiant, you know, nice, moral people we're going to have to kill to get our New World Order.

00:50:41.000 Yeah, and that was echoed again by... who's the historian in the Wall Street Journal back in the early 90s.

00:50:53.000 Yeah, well, I mean, they all say it.

00:50:55.000 They all talk about how they're going to kill us.

00:50:57.000 Because they're nice people.

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00:56:41.000 Let's talk to, oh boy, I guess Larry in Indiana.

00:56:46.000 Larry, you're on the air.

00:56:47.000 Go ahead.

00:56:48.000 Hey, Alex, how are you doing?

00:56:49.000 Good, sir.

00:56:50.000 Hey, just a quick question.

00:56:52.000 I don't know if you ever researched a German-owned company called Siemens.

00:56:57.000 Oh, very, very serious.

00:57:00.000 How involved they are in our national security systems, especially in most of our major airports?

00:57:06.000 Well, I knew that.

00:57:06.000 I was told by a government official, and I confirmed it, back in 1998.

00:57:11.000 I had driven around the country to document the UN putting up its signs and saying it owned our parks.

00:57:19.000 And when I showed up at a park, I was threatened with arrest.

00:57:23.000 by park officials.

00:57:26.000 Why are you asking about the UN signs?

00:57:28.000 I mean, it's on video.

00:57:29.000 It's in my first film, America's Word by Design.

00:57:32.000 Then later I got contacted and said Siemens was tracking you.

00:57:35.000 They're part of the NSA the entire trip.

00:57:38.000 And it turned out to be true. 0.81

00:57:40.000 - Yeah, they're involved in our military communications also.

00:57:44.000 - Oh yeah, they're serious.

00:57:46.000 - Just a-- - What is it, like 70% of our military infrastructure now has been outsourced to Europe?

00:57:52.000 It's kind of scary to realize that a German company could come in and do that.

00:57:57.000 They wanted to buy the nuclear division from Westinghouse.

00:58:01.000 But fortunately the government wouldn't allow that.

00:58:05.000 I remember that.

00:58:06.000 Sounds like you work inside this stuff.

00:58:10.000 No longer.

00:58:12.000 I used to.

00:58:12.000 No longer do.

00:58:14.000 But did you know that Siemens is also sneaking around watching people?

00:58:18.000 Well, that's what I'm kind of concerned about.

00:58:22.000 I used to work for them.

00:58:26.000 They're involved in a lot of stuff.

00:58:27.000 See, the government uses private corporations to do their bidding.

00:58:31.000 Anything else, sir, you want to add?

00:58:33.000 No, that's it.

00:58:33.000 That's it, Al.

00:58:34.000 Alright, good to hear from you.

00:58:36.000 Yeah, I know.

00:58:37.000 I mean, that was kind of a wake-up call for me.

00:58:41.000 You know, Siemens is watching.

00:58:43.000 They don't like what you're doing with the UN.

00:58:45.000 We'll be right back, folks.

00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:08.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 The globalists are afraid of us.

00:59:22.000 They're afraid of us taking action.

00:59:24.000 They know we have power.

00:59:26.000 They know that individuals who are highly motivated and focused and have good information can change the course of history.

00:59:34.000 That's why they try to counter us with their propaganda, or they try to harass us.

00:59:38.000 It isn't working, and their own minions are waking up in droves every day Their humanity is returning.

00:59:47.000 More and more of their own people are going public inside the IMF and World Bank, inside these big corporations, and blowing the whistle on this corrupt New World Order.

00:59:57.000 And as the New World Order comes into view, as people see the details of it, as they realize how horrible it is, you're going to see more resistance.

01:00:08.000 That's why, consequently, at the same time, the converse of it, is the globalists are racing to expand the structure of control, the electronic straitjacket, the societal black ski masking of the police, the armored vehicles, the face scanning cameras, because they know the stuff they got planned for humanity is so horrible you're gonna buck.

01:00:31.000 You're gonna struggle in the squeeze chute.

01:00:34.000 My friends, we've got to say no to being led to the slaughter.

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01:00:41.000 We've got some great guests coming up.

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01:00:46.000 Right now, let's talk to Harvey in Florida.

01:00:49.000 Harvey, go ahead.

01:00:50.000 Hello, Alex.

01:00:51.000 Hello, Harvey.

01:00:52.000 Great to talk to you again.

01:00:53.000 Your callers are so informed and talking about so many important subjects today.

01:00:59.000 I'd like to talk about one or two things.

01:01:02.000 First of all, our training of all the military around the world, how to kill and slaughter their own people, which is Negroponte's job in Iraq. 0.99

01:01:10.000 No, this is a bloodthirsty henchman.

01:01:12.000 They send him to Iraq to run the death squads. 0.95

01:01:14.000 They send him to Latin America to do it.

01:01:16.000 He'll be our new National Security Chief.

01:01:19.000 They train people all around the planet.

01:01:21.000 Your caller, I think his name was Carlos, talking about the School of the Americas.

01:01:25.000 Not only do we do it there, we do it in Camp Harvey in West Virginia.

01:01:29.000 We go to other countries and train them how to slaughter their own people, how to keep their populations down. 1.00

01:01:36.000 This is a crime against humanity.

01:01:38.000 And when I hear You also spoke today about propaganda, the never-ending tentacles of the monster of propaganda that's around our throats, brought to us by our co-opted media.

01:01:49.000 And every time George Bush goes to one of his fake staged audiences, they have somebody in the audience that stands up, it's usually a woman, that says, I just want to thank you, President Bush, for bringing dignity and honor back to the White House.

01:02:03.000 Which is the complete opposite.

01:02:04.000 I mean, it just gets worse and worse.

01:02:06.000 You know, each successive president is getting deeper into this.

01:02:09.000 And, you know, I've got the audio clips where Bush says, this is a staged press conference.

01:02:14.000 Why are you at, you didn't give me this in writing beforehand.

01:02:17.000 I mean, he's slipped up and thrown fits.

01:02:19.000 Which I understand.

01:02:20.000 It's stressful.

01:02:21.000 I've done that on TV before.

01:02:22.000 You know, got a little bit angry about, you know, a bunch of screw-ups.

01:02:25.000 But, I mean, literally, you know, he's sitting there admitting that it's scripted.

01:02:30.000 Going, hey, you were supposed to give me this question beforehand written.

01:02:33.000 Oh, I've heard that, yep.

01:02:34.000 Well, that's... I mean, no, I've played the clip.

01:02:36.000 I got the video clip.

01:02:37.000 But the point is, is that this really is scripted.

01:02:40.000 They now admit the reporters are paid off.

01:02:42.000 It's all staged.

01:02:44.000 I just want to thank you, President Bush, for bringing honor and dignity back to the White House.

01:02:48.000 These are just Republican shills.

01:02:50.000 But to stand up and say that I just want this, I've heard every time.

01:02:55.000 Just CNN makes sure they broadcast this every half hour and every hour on the hour.

01:02:59.000 I just want to thank you, President Bush, for bringing honor and dignity back to the White House.

01:03:04.000 And this is a mass murderer that she's talking to.

01:03:06.000 So they'll always find people to sell their souls for a few pieces of gold.

01:03:12.000 Well, it's about being cool.

01:03:13.000 It's about wearing the fancy outfit and swishing into the little audience.

01:03:16.000 They get invited.

01:03:17.000 They get invited to their fake affairs.

01:03:19.000 Go to the parties and, oh baby, oh I'm part of the system, oh.

01:03:23.000 But we really have to keep educating the people not to sell their souls for a few pieces of gold or for a minute in the limelight.

01:03:30.000 They have to stop doing this.

01:03:32.000 They're just selling out our country.

01:03:34.000 Well, it's going to come back to roost.

01:03:35.000 I mean, don't think the globalists are just going to abuse the world and not abuse you.

01:03:38.000 They think they're going to get a secret ID card so they're not going to be taken to the oven.

01:03:43.000 Well, you think... I mean, you're talking about Republicans being bad.

01:03:45.000 I mean, it's all of them.

01:03:46.000 Oh, it's all of them.

01:03:47.000 Absolutely.

01:03:48.000 Absolutely.

01:03:49.000 We'll be back.

01:03:49.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:50.000 Good call.

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01:06:58.000 Every day they beat the drums to go to war with Iran. 0.54

01:07:13.000 They're telling us if there's terror attacks in America, it's probably going to be Iran or Syria.

01:07:19.000 Yesterday, Iran and Syria signed a defense pact together to fight the globalists.

01:07:29.000 I wouldn't want to say the United States.

01:07:31.000 And again, I'm not defending Iran or Syria. 0.95

01:07:34.000 I mean, those countries are run by monsters too.

01:07:37.000 But they're no threat compared to Pakistan or North Korea or China or Russia that our government coddles and loves and arms. 0.97

01:07:45.000 And we got Rumsfeld giving nuclear reactors to North Korea when he was on the board of ABB.

01:07:50.000 Then they tell us we've got to march our sons and daughters now off and they've set up this big move for a national draft, introduced legislation.

01:07:58.000 We've got to send them off to fight and die when the PENAC documents written by Dick Cheney said in 2000 it's about oil, Saddam in the threat.

01:08:08.000 It's about oil and using Iraq as a military base. 0.92

01:08:11.000 But we can use Saddam as a pretext to get that oil. 0.88

01:08:14.000 I mean, he wrote this!

01:08:15.000 He said this!

01:08:16.000 It isn't like it's O'Neill, the Treasury Secretary, quitting and saying he heard this in meetings.

01:08:20.000 It's not like it's Richard Clark, you know, leaving and saying he heard all this.

01:08:24.000 This is Dick Cheney and something he wrote and published!

01:08:29.000 But the neocons never want to talk about that.

01:08:32.000 And folks, they want World War III.

01:08:33.000 They don't care if it kills a bunch of our troops.

01:08:35.000 They'll make a bunch of money off the weapon sales.

01:08:37.000 They'll get to expand the global empire.

01:08:40.000 It's about going after countries that aren't under their control.

01:08:43.000 Whether they're good, bad, or ugly.

01:08:46.000 And I want to talk about the cost of this if it happens.

01:08:50.000 I want to talk about what this is going to mean.

01:08:54.000 And, I mean, our troops can't even deal with Iraq right now. 0.87

01:08:58.000 It's getting worse every day.

01:09:00.000 Imagine Going into Iran or Syria.

01:09:03.000 And a draft will be needed.

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01:09:35.000 Cindy, thank you for coming on with us.

01:09:36.000 Hi, Alex.

01:09:37.000 Thank you.

01:09:39.000 First off, let's personalize this because the government doesn't like us to do that.

01:09:43.000 They don't want us to photograph the coffins.

01:09:45.000 In Louisiana, we had the military refuse to follow orders because the families wanted the caskets to be seen.

01:09:52.000 Tell us about your son, his life, just in a nutshell, what happened when he was sent out of country, and then now your fight to try to save other lives.

01:10:03.000 Okay, well, Casey was 24 when he was killed and he was just, you know, just one of the most amazing people.

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01:10:42.000 When he was 18, he stopped being an altar boy and went to serve the church in other capacities.

01:10:48.000 And he did that even throughout his army service.

01:10:54.000 He went to mass and helped the chapel where he was stationed.

01:11:02.000 On April 4th, 2004, he had only been in Iraq for two weeks and there was a battle going on.

01:11:09.000 If you'll remember, April 1st was when the contractors in Fallujah were mutilated and hung from the bridge.

01:11:18.000 And that's right after Paul Bremer took away their newspaper, the Shiite's newspaper and TV and said some highly inflammatory things and inflamed the Shiite's rebellion against our armed forces.

01:11:36.000 And on April 4th in Sadr City, which is a Shiite ghetto in Baghdad,

01:11:45.000 Some of the Shiites overtook some police stations and a group was sent out to take the police stations back from the Shiite rebels and they were ambushed and they were in a fierce battle and my son and some people on his post were listening to the battle over the radio and they were told to put together a quick response team to go out and to save the

01:12:14.000 You know, to help the soldiers that were trapped in the battle that they were in.

01:12:18.000 Well, my son volunteered to go on that mission, and he was a Humvee mechanic.

01:12:23.000 He was also trained to be a combat lifesaver, which is like a step below a medic.

01:12:30.000 So they get to the soldiers and try to stabilize them.

01:12:33.000 So he was a specialist?

01:12:35.000 Specialist, yeah.

01:12:37.000 So they try to stabilize the soldiers.

01:12:40.000 Anyway, on the way to To that combat, they were trapped and ambushed and seven soldiers were killed in that ambush and Casey was one of them.

01:12:51.000 And we never agreed with the war.

01:12:54.000 Casey didn't either.

01:12:55.000 He didn't agree with his commander-in-chief.

01:12:59.000 We didn't understand why Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States.

01:13:04.000 And are really any threat to the United States.

01:13:06.000 Well, Dick Cheney said it wasn't, but that he was going to lie to the American people and tell them it was.

01:13:11.000 Right, right.

01:13:12.000 And so, we, you know, at that point, we thought that it was a senseless war.

01:13:18.000 And I, you know, when Casey was home last Christmas, I begged him not to go.

01:13:24.000 You know, I would joke around with him and tell him to hold still so I can run him over and stuff like that and break his legs or You know, knock him out and take him to Canada, but he just said, Mom, come on.

01:13:37.000 This is my job.

01:13:38.000 I have to go.

01:13:38.000 I have to support my buddies.

01:13:40.000 That's going to be okay.

01:13:42.000 And by the way, that's what keeps the troops there, is supporting their buddies.

01:13:45.000 That's right.

01:13:47.000 And I saw one poor fella on CNN whose brother was killed.

01:13:51.000 He's sitting there with his eight-month-old baby on his lap, and he goes, well, You know, they killed my brother, so I'm going back.

01:13:59.000 Look, that vengeance isn't going to bring his brother back, and what it's going to do is perhaps end up having his baby lose a father and his parents who were begging him to stay.

01:14:08.000 Lose another child.

01:14:09.000 He doesn't even have to go back, but the guy's going back.

01:14:12.000 Right.

01:14:13.000 Going back so a bunch of fat cats can, you know, play risk on the face of the earth.

01:14:19.000 Yeah, and Casey, one of Casey's buddies, in fact it was his best friend, He was with Casey when he died.

01:14:25.000 He was Casey's chief in the motor pool.

01:14:28.000 And he was on leave in September and he came back.

01:14:31.000 And he came to visit us because he lives in California too.

01:14:35.000 And he said, Cindy, they lied to us so bad.

01:14:38.000 They told us we were going to go over there and we were going to build schools and get their water system going and build up relationships with the Iraqi people.

01:14:47.000 He goes, every day this is what we do. 0.95

01:14:50.000 They try to kill us, and we try to kill them.

01:14:53.000 And he says it's all about just keeping each other alive.

01:14:55.000 And I said, Mike, you know, you don't have to go back.

01:14:57.000 This is against the law, what I'm about to tell you.

01:15:00.000 But I said, you know, we have money from Casey.

01:15:03.000 If you want to take your family to Canada, or if you need a lawyer, we will help to fight to keep you from going back to this immoral war.

01:15:11.000 And he said, Cindy, I have to go back.

01:15:13.000 My men are there.

01:15:15.000 He goes, I don't want to go back.

01:15:17.000 He goes, I don't want to go back, but my men are there.

01:15:17.000 He was crying.

01:15:20.000 I have to go back. 0.99

01:15:22.000 They don't want to betray their friends, which is admirable, but then you look at the larger scale, it's just going to continue this black hole while a bunch of, I mean I watch Bush and the rest of them, I mean they're walking around in $5,000 gowns, and his daughters are putting their lipstick on and laughing, and they're just up there smirking, and the Democrats are all voting for this war, and they're just a bunch of, they're a bunch of decadent lying trash. 0.98

01:15:49.000 And our young men are honorable and brave, and they're dying for this. 0.97

01:15:55.000 And to me, it's just despicable what our country is doing.

01:15:59.000 And, you know, I just want to say something to your parents out there.

01:16:02.000 There is going to be a draft, and it's going to be coming sooner than we think.

01:16:06.000 And don't let these maniacs have your children. 0.99

01:16:10.000 Well, it's sacrificing them to the New World Order. 0.96

01:16:13.000 Right.

01:16:13.000 I mean, we already... Look, they already have a draft.

01:16:16.000 Somebody served... Right.

01:16:17.000 I mean, we've got guard who's been in country for two years, getting a month off here or there, and they're telling them, sorry, four years now, you're gonna... I mean, even in Vietnam and World War II, they didn't keep you in combat for, you know, for more than a year.

01:16:29.000 Right, and people don't understand that.

01:16:30.000 You know, they don't understand that there's already a draft, a backdoor draft, and a stop loss, and...

01:16:36.000 And people say, well they signed on for that.

01:16:39.000 No.

01:16:40.000 A federal judge ruled.

01:16:41.000 It does not say that in the contract.

01:16:43.000 You sign up for the amount of time.

01:16:45.000 And folks, people sit there, these armchair quarterbacks, And go, you know, attack Iran, attack Syria like it's something entertaining to watch on TV.

01:16:54.000 Folks, they're going to send your children, and when they get their arms and legs blown off, or even worse, die, you know, you're going to be on this show.

01:17:01.000 I'm having people call me, you know, after they lose children, oh, the war was wrong, you were right, I was wrong. 0.87

01:17:07.000 You know, they better, we don't have to do this so these globalists can have the oil.

01:17:12.000 You know, and it's just so, um, it's so heartbreaking when You know, I really blame myself for letting my son go.

01:17:23.000 And people now, since Casey died, you know, all the proof has come out.

01:17:31.000 And I didn't know anything about the Project for a New American Century before my son was killed.

01:17:36.000 But now I know about that.

01:17:38.000 You know, all the reports have come out saying that This war was based on lies.

01:17:43.000 For those who don't know, this is basically, in a nutshell, just one thing Cheney wrote.

01:17:49.000 We need terror attacks to get them to do what we want.

01:17:52.000 Saddam is a threat, but he's got the oil. 0.97

01:17:55.000 And so we're going to get into this war, and once we're there, we're going to expand it to Iran and Syria. 0.91

01:18:00.000 Go ahead.

01:18:01.000 Well, and then people won't wake up and realize that their government has betrayed them, and That's what Gold Star Families for Peace is trying to do.

01:18:11.000 We're trying to wake these people up so they don't get the wake-up call that we get.

01:18:17.000 Look, this isn't our government.

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01:18:23.000 We have been hijacked by organized crime.

01:18:24.000 You're right.

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01:18:38.000 Well, I mean, if our country was being attacked, then, you know, of course, we'd all volunteer.

01:18:44.000 That's right.

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01:23:01.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:23:06.000 Coming up in the next segment, we're going to take some of your calls.

01:23:09.000 And if you disagree with us, if you think this war is a great thing, and you're like half-Americans in major polls who believe Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9-11, even though the government admits he didn't, or if you believe the propaganda that weapons of mass destruction were found, call us and explain to us.

01:23:31.000 Or if you think the draft's a great thing, or if you think that this war's good, Or if you disagree with it, we'd love to hear from you.

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01:23:46.000 Talking to Cindy Sheehan.

01:23:48.000 And she was the mother of Army Specialist Casey Austin Sheehan.

01:23:52.000 Killed in action last year.

01:23:55.000 She's the co-founder of Gold Star Families for Peace.

01:23:57.000 We'll tell you about that website and organization here in a moment.

01:24:00.000 You know, I saw, I talked about this on Monday, I saw two double amputees this weekend.

01:24:04.000 One at a computer store, another at a grocery store.

01:24:07.000 I saw one double amputee and one person who lost an arm.

01:24:10.000 But this, you know, handsome black guy with a high and tight, you know, haircut in a wheelchair helping me get up.

01:24:16.000 A real nice fellow helping me pick out a hard drive, a bigger hard drive.

01:24:21.000 And I just said, did you get back from Iraq?

01:24:23.000 And he said, yeah.

01:24:24.000 And he still had bandages on his legs.

01:24:27.000 And then I saw another fellow, a white guy, you know, nice looking guy with his, you know, short haircut, sitting there in the grocery store, having trouble pushing the cart, you know, and guiding it.

01:24:38.000 And he had his arm blown off up at the shoulder.

01:24:41.000 I said, did you just get back from Iraq?

01:24:43.000 And he said, yeah.

01:24:44.000 And I said, well, God bless you.

01:24:46.000 But I mean, I'm seeing wreckage just around me.

01:24:51.000 And it's been in major newspapers that they will discharge somebody in Germany at Rammstein or other bases, the big medical bases, just so they don't have to pay for their flight back and make families pay to fly them back.

01:25:06.000 I mean, this is disgusting.

01:25:10.000 Any comments to that, Cindy?

01:25:12.000 Um, well, you know, I always get accused of not supporting the troops by my work, and, you know, I know my only way of supporting the troops now is since this is a proven, um, based on lies, this war, it has been unequivocally proven that it's based on lies, is to bring them home.

01:25:31.000 Not one drop of Iraqi or American blood should be shed.

01:25:34.000 They should just get out of there as fast as possible.

01:25:38.000 And what I find even more despicable is the injuries in this war are way more serious than other wars.

01:25:45.000 They're more often than not getting more than one limb blown off because of their Kevlar body armor.

01:25:53.000 They get their limbs blown off.

01:25:56.000 They have to go into the hospital for long periods of time and rehabilitation.

01:26:02.000 And if they are in a VA hospital for over three months, they have to start paying for their own meals.

01:26:08.000 And to me, that is deplorable.

01:26:10.000 These men, you know... It's never been done before.

01:26:12.000 There are people... I know.

01:26:13.000 And understand what she's saying.

01:26:15.000 Normally in Vietnam or World War II or Korea, you would die from your injuries because they were so bad.

01:26:20.000 But the body armor is so good that it just blows everything off that was around it.

01:26:26.000 And so normally they would die, now they're not dying, and then they get here, and yes, people in the hospitals, I mean I'm talking triple amputees, are being forced to pay for their own meals.

01:26:38.000 And they say that I don't support the troops.

01:26:42.000 Supporting the troops means being mindless.

01:26:44.000 cutting them loose, not caring about them, just waving a plastic flag.

01:26:48.000 Supporting the troops means not caring about them, letting them breathe the depleted uranium, letting them take the experimental vaccines that are illegal to give them.

01:26:56.000 Supporting the troops means not caring about them.

01:26:58.000 You've got to learn double think here, Cindy.

01:26:59.000 Well, you know what, too, Alex, is that we found out, you know, Casey was only over there for two weeks, so he just started a letter and he didn't have a chance to finish it, and we got it back with his things.

01:27:12.000 But we found out that for the last two weeks of his life he was sleeping in his Humvee because there wasn't enough cots on post.

01:27:20.000 He was stationed at FOB War Eagle in Sodder City and since he didn't, he gave up a bed, he was allowed to have one other meal a day.

01:27:29.000 Because they were down to one meal a day.

01:27:32.000 So if you give up your bed, you can have two meals a day.

01:27:36.000 And again, it's all about profit.

01:27:37.000 Halliburton does the meals, and they get billions, and they've been caught feeding old, rotten meals to them, contaminated water.

01:27:44.000 It's all about profit, but for all the private contractors and CIA folks, they've got topless dancers, the finest whiskeys, drugs in the green zone, and they're just partying, while outside the armored compound, our troops are being slaughtered.

01:27:57.000 Right, exactly.

01:27:58.000 And so, you know, and I just want to tell people, your listeners, supporting the troops would be getting them out of there, because, you know, we're going into Iran or Syria next, and our kids will never come home. 0.59

01:28:12.000 It's going to be perpetual war, and that's what these people want, because they're getting richer.

01:28:17.000 But war is peace. 0.95

01:28:19.000 Ignorance is strength.

01:28:21.000 Right.

01:28:23.000 Right.

01:28:23.000 And we, and wake up, Wake up America, because it's going to be your kids or you next.

01:28:30.000 Absolutely.

01:28:30.000 Cindy, stay there.

01:28:31.000 We're going to come back and talk about your organization and how folks get involved and try to end this criminal war.

01:28:35.000 And then we'll also take folks' calls.

01:28:38.000 So we'll be right back.

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01:32:11.000 We're talking to Cindy Sheehan.

01:32:15.000 Lost her son in Iraq.

01:32:19.000 And, uh, you know, he was a volunteer.

01:32:20.000 He joined up.

01:32:22.000 He went there, but he didn't agree with the war.

01:32:25.000 He had to join the military in 2000, but he still went.

01:32:28.000 And he died.

01:32:29.000 And these reports, I've talked to the troops in person, but it's also been in mainstream news that They'll turn their tanks on when it's cold, because the winter just passed.

01:32:39.000 And they'll be told, uh, turn them off, don't use fuel.

01:32:43.000 Then the officers all go off and stay in the lavish palaces while they literally sleep in their tanks and their Humvees, and they're not given cold weather gear, they're given nothing, they're given, as she said, one meal a day.

01:32:53.000 One meal a day.

01:32:54.000 And because it's all about profit, they got, they got money to be, you know, feeding these guys T-bone steaks three times a day.

01:33:02.000 It's just Pay for your food when your legs are blown off.

01:33:05.000 Pay for your flight back home.

01:33:07.000 It's just pure evil.

01:33:09.000 And the Democrats and Republicans won't talk about it because they're all for this.

01:33:13.000 They're all living high on the hog off this slavery. 0.97

01:33:16.000 Cindy, tell us about your organization and any other points you want to make before we go to these calls.

01:33:21.000 I founded an organization called Gold Star Families for Peace.

01:33:25.000 A gold star family is a family that has lost a loved one in the war.

01:33:30.000 And we were all Going out separately around the country, speaking out for peace and against the war, and to support our troops by bringing them home.

01:33:42.000 And our mission is to bring the troops home before any other families have to go through what we're going through.

01:33:48.000 And we realize we can't bring our loved ones back, but hopefully with our efforts and what we say and what we do, we can bring the rest of America's children home before it's too late.

01:33:59.000 And if you want to go on our website, it's www.gssssp.org.

01:34:09.000 And give that address out one more time, please.

01:34:12.000 www.gsssp.org.

01:34:19.000 Gold Star Families for Peace.

01:34:21.000 And folks, if you go to my website, infowars.com, it says the guest for today.

01:34:25.000 You can click right there and go directly to her website.

01:34:29.000 So that's what posted on InfoWars.

01:34:31.000 And I can be contacted through the website too.

01:34:33.000 It says contact members, click on that, and then you can click on my email and contact me.

01:34:39.000 I wanted to just briefly talk about numbers of dead.

01:34:41.000 What, it's 1,200 and something now?

01:34:42.000 Um, it's 1,469 the last time I looked last night.

01:34:44.000 Oh, 469, sorry.

01:34:44.000 It's 1,469 the last time I looked last night.

01:34:48.000 Oh, 469.

01:34:49.000 Sorry.

01:34:49.000 Five soldiers were killed yesterday.

01:34:51.000 Okay, so it's almost 1,500 now.

01:34:54.000 I was going off a number a few months old.

01:34:56.000 I apologize.

01:34:58.000 But I've also seen reports where they don't count somebody as a theater death or a casualty KIA.

01:35:08.000 Unless they die in Iraq. 0.98

01:35:10.000 A lot of them are flown out to Germany and then that doesn't count as dying from wounds from combat.

01:35:17.000 And that the numbers, as you mentioned earlier, of just injured and maimed and disfigured is astronomically higher because of the body armor.

01:35:30.000 I've been told also that as long as they get their foot on a helicopter They don't count as being killed in Iraq, so they're not counted as an official death in the war.

01:35:46.000 And I was talking to a Marine that had been out of the Marines, and he worked in the morgue.

01:35:54.000 And he told me, and this was months ago, he told me that the casualty figures are way low.

01:36:01.000 He said that at least a thousand Marines have been killed in this war.

01:36:05.000 And this was months ago.

01:36:07.000 Don't believe this.

01:36:09.000 For the first four years of the undeclared war in Vietnam, over 6,000 of our troops died, and they kept it secret until the mid-70s.

01:36:19.000 So, they've done this before, and this is something America never did until Vietnam.

01:36:24.000 Now, the Soviets and others, they always did stuff like this. 1.00

01:36:26.000 They would tell families, don't tell anybody that your husband or your son died in Afghanistan.

01:36:33.000 Keep your mouth shut.

01:36:34.000 And so, on top of it, I'm sure you heard about a month ago that in Louisiana they were bringing in a bunch of the dead and the families that we wanted to be seen and the officers rebelled and said, okay, we're going to show people the covens.

01:36:47.000 So we're also seeing now people in the military aren't putting up with this.

01:36:50.000 I mean, the propaganda we hear that the troops love and worship Bush and they just love the war, from what I've been hearing from the troops, that's not the case.

01:36:59.000 Well, from the troops I hear from, that's not the case either.

01:37:02.000 I'm sure if you go, if you went over there and searched and searched you can find people that still support the war and support the president and those are the only people that we see on the mainstream news.

01:37:16.000 The picture that Tammy Solisio took back in April of the flag-draped coffins coming home that she got fired from her job for, my son was in one of those coffins.

01:37:30.000 Before that, the Army does not tell you anything.

01:37:32.000 The only reason I know about details of my son's death is that his buddy told me.

01:37:37.000 And his buddies told me.

01:37:38.000 They've filled in the missing pieces of that day.

01:37:42.000 And before I saw that picture on the news, we didn't know that if maybe they just put Casey in a body bag and stacked him in the corner like cordwood.

01:37:54.000 You know, and to us, to see what care they were, and honor that they were treated with from the time You know, they left Iraq to come back to America.

01:38:03.000 You know, that was something that was a comfort to us.

01:38:07.000 You know, these boys are sent over to be killed and then they're brought back in the dark of night like they're, like, you know, they should be ashamed of themselves. 0.99

01:38:18.000 Like they're a dirty porno magazine. 0.99

01:38:19.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:38:24.000 This is another slap in the face to us families.

01:38:29.000 And I believe that my son is a hero.

01:38:32.000 My son was an honorable, brave man who went to save his buddies.

01:38:38.000 I only question the people who sent them there and what were any of them doing there in that situation anyway.

01:38:44.000 Well, if you support the Tribs... Of course I do. 0.98

01:38:46.000 No, I was going to say, if you support the Tribs and the listeners, then you should have them back here right now.

01:38:51.000 I have had the man who literally wrote the book for the Pentagon, the PhD, the doctorate, on this broadcast, who was sent to Iraq to study DU in 91, Almost his whole team has died.

01:39:04.000 Dr. Doug Rocky.

01:39:06.000 He has had cancer multiple times.

01:39:08.000 Their own handbooks prior to that said, if you breathe this, it's going to kill you from the heavy metal effects alone.

01:39:15.000 And the toxicity and the radiation.

01:39:18.000 The New York Daily News tested 14 troops.

01:39:20.000 All 14 had high levels of radiation, upwards of 2 rems.

01:39:23.000 Because these DU companies, folks, don't just put DU in it.

01:39:26.000 They're getting rid of toxic waste.

01:39:28.000 They're putting a higher radiation level in it.

01:39:31.000 The entire country's been salted with this.

01:39:34.000 It is an abomination.

01:39:36.000 And when you bomb Hiroshima or Nagasaki, the radiation goes away, folks.

01:39:39.000 Not with DU.

01:39:40.000 This stuff's gonna be there for millions of years.

01:39:43.000 Our troops are coming back and they're not giving them treatment.

01:39:45.000 I mean, I've had the fathers on the show crying.

01:39:48.000 You know, whose sons came back and died at DU.

01:39:50.000 And they're breaking down.

01:39:52.000 I mean, is that supporting the troops?

01:39:53.000 Sending them?

01:39:54.000 And it's illegal to give them experimental vaccines when the drug companies have been caught paying the government?

01:40:01.000 Paying politicians off to test drugs on the troops as guinea pigs?

01:40:04.000 Literally, like, using your sons and daughters as rodents? 1.00

01:40:09.000 And oh, that's how you support them, you sickos? 0.99

01:40:12.000 Out there? 0.99

01:40:12.000 I mean, you people make me sick! 0.99

01:40:14.000 Well, what about all the Iraqi children that have been born since the first Gulf War with terrible deformities because of the DU we left out last year? 0.98

01:40:23.000 Their deformities have at least tripled.

01:40:25.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 And the same thing is now showing up in Serbia.

01:40:28.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 You know, another thing that we don't talk about... Those four vets have three times the higher percentage as well of having to form children. 0.92

01:40:37.000 Go ahead.

01:40:37.000 Oh, that's right.

01:40:39.000 It's the suicides after the kids are coming home.

01:40:42.000 You know, they don't even count them at the VA, so we don't know.

01:40:47.000 We don't have a reliable figure for the suicides of our children who are coming home just from this war.

01:40:54.000 You know, and they rarely The VA will rarely admit that they killed themselves because of post-traumatic stress.

01:41:04.000 They usually say it was, you know, because they broke up with their girlfriend or something like that.

01:41:07.000 Well, I've read the Army studies.

01:41:09.000 I've read the military studies and I've had their psychologists on people that have studied this.

01:41:14.000 They knew, again, back in World War II.

01:41:16.000 I mean, they knew 200 years ago, marching their redcoats around.

01:41:20.000 I've read some of the old British redcoat manuals.

01:41:23.000 You can't keep soldiers in combat indefinitely.

01:41:25.000 They burn out.

01:41:27.000 And troops have never been put through this long of sustained, continual combat.

01:41:33.000 In Vietnam, they put you two or three days in the bush, take you out for two or three days.

01:41:38.000 Or longer.

01:41:38.000 This time, I'm told, it is just non-stop.

01:41:42.000 Right.

01:41:42.000 It's relentless, what they're going through right now.

01:41:45.000 You know, they might get a weekend of R&R occasionally, but, you know, where do they go?

01:41:52.000 You know, there's no place to go for that.

01:41:53.000 Well, they're lucky to be getting one meal, and we don't support the Tribs because we want them to get more than one meal. 0.97

01:41:58.000 We're bad.

01:41:59.000 We want them to get more than one meal.

01:42:01.000 Okay, I'm bad.

01:42:02.000 I admit it.

01:42:04.000 We're bad because we want to support them and have them, you know, when their arms and legs are blown off, get their plane ticket paid for.

01:42:11.000 But, again, that may be Al Qaeda-ish. 0.84

01:42:16.000 Let's talk to Walt in Kansas City.

01:42:19.000 Walt, go ahead.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, well, God bless you both, Alex, and I want you to know I'm listening every day.

01:42:25.000 I just don't call.

01:42:27.000 Kind of busy.

01:42:28.000 Yeah, I want to give you a story about my son.

01:42:32.000 He told me that he had never been so sick in his life because of all the shots he thinks.

01:42:40.000 And I said, well, of course it's because of all of the shots that you're getting.

01:42:43.000 You know, the stuff keeps stacking up.

01:42:46.000 Now, he's at a base Called Anaconda.

01:42:49.000 LSA Anaconda.

01:42:50.000 Logistics Support Area.

01:42:52.000 There's 25,000 troops there.

01:42:55.000 And, uh, let me give you the website.

01:42:57.000 You can just type this in.

01:42:58.000 Morgaritaville.

01:43:00.000 Into your Explorer, Netscape, or whatever.

01:43:04.000 M-O-R-T-A-R-I-T-A-V-I-L-L-E. 1.00

01:43:08.000 And you'll see all kinds of news articles where a general has requested on numerous occasions more troops for, uh, Parameter Patrol.

01:43:17.000 And, uh, been denied.

01:43:18.000 Uh, they're having to pay for their own uniforms.

01:43:23.000 They're having to buy their own fuel at $1.93 a gallon.

01:43:28.000 Uh, paying for their own meals.

01:43:30.000 My son, uh, is an Air Force mechanic, a B-2 mechanic.

01:43:35.000 But yet they've got him driving trucks for the 7th Battalion, 7th Truck Transportation Battalion.

01:43:40.000 That's the most dangerous job!

01:43:42.000 Yeah!

01:43:44.000 And he's a staff sergeant, so they've made him a platoon leader, which means he drives in one of them armored Humvees, kind of like, you know, lead man.

01:43:54.000 You know, there's no more dangerous job than being a point man.

01:43:58.000 And the mechanics and others there, the MPs and stuff for the Air Force, have even volunteered to go do the parameter patrols.

01:44:06.000 But they said it'd take about three weeks to train them for that.

01:44:11.000 Plus, they need somebody to work on the aircraft.

01:44:14.000 When they come in, damaged or something, and the Air Force will not even keep aircraft there.

01:44:21.000 They say it's too dangerous.

01:44:22.000 So what we have is, what we have is, well we have people living in these ivory towers with marble all around them, out on their million dollar jet boats, flying in their helicopters, laughing, giggling, slurping beer.

01:44:36.000 Meanwhile, Iraq is already fallen. 0.92

01:44:39.000 It is totally imploded. 0.99

01:44:41.000 Yeah, and let's not forget about these pieces of garbage that are going also to Bohemian Groves to live it up while our boys are getting slaughtered over there. 1.00

01:44:49.000 That's right, all our Christian conservative leaders are going to have sex with their male prostitutes. 1.00

01:44:55.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:44:56.000 You know, uh... New York Post.

01:44:58.000 I'm still doing my thing with your videos and getting the word out as much as I can and I'm finding a lot more people are waking up And, uh, I'm, uh, the tapes that Dave and Joyce made, uh, the Gulf War Vets and all of the stuff about that, I'm getting those out, too, in regards to your DU and everything.

01:45:16.000 And, you know, if you go to the website, right on the base's own website, Balad, Iraq is where it is, B-A-L-A-D, right on the base's own website, it says that they inspected for HMX, because that's one of the places that the HMX was stored.

01:45:33.000 And it says check for radioactivity.

01:45:35.000 The IAEA did.

01:45:38.000 But you know what they leave out?

01:45:39.000 The results.

01:45:41.000 Now I hear you Walt.

01:45:42.000 God bless you and please keep us informed about your son.

01:45:45.000 Please call in with that information.

01:45:47.000 Now let me just add this to what he's saying.

01:45:51.000 In the first Gulf War, they bombed Mainly just a few highways and military bases.

01:45:58.000 A lot of DU was used, about one-third of what was used this time, thousands of times, but it was used out in the desert.

01:46:04.000 This time, they bombarded.

01:46:06.000 Even when they knew the enemy had already fled and surrendered, they bombarded almost all the major military bases.

01:46:12.000 Well, where do you think our troops moved in?

01:46:13.000 This is admitted.

01:46:16.000 And they just send them right in and they live right in buildings with holes blown in the top by DU.

01:46:21.000 They're just in there breathing it.

01:46:22.000 Man, this is out of control, folks.

01:46:25.000 Let's talk to Barney in Maryland.

01:46:27.000 Barney, go ahead.

01:46:27.000 You're on the air then.

01:46:28.000 Then Steve and a bunch of other people.

01:46:31.000 Go ahead, Barney.

01:46:32.000 Yeah.

01:46:33.000 Hey, I spoke about this before, Alex, but on Tarawa during World War II, we had an average temperature of around 130 degrees.

01:46:43.000 And once we were able to take over the land and expel all the Japanese, we could take off our battle gear. 1.00

01:46:54.000 We could go around and cheese search and dungarees.

01:46:57.000 But the idea is these kids over here, they have to go around in full battle dress and temperatures of 130 degrees.

01:47:04.000 The point is, you had an enemy in front of you, classical warfare, symmetrical, that you could go defeat and then you'd get R&R and play volleyball and go swimming.

01:47:13.000 Now, it's just continual.

01:47:15.000 Yeah, well, we, like I said before, We had sweat glands rattle up on our body and we had these large cysts, big as your thumbnail, come up all over our back, over the back of our neck, behind our ear, got fungus in our ears, and I used to go into the bow of an airplane and clean the five machine guns, and I'd be in there 15 minutes, I'd come out soaking wet.

01:47:39.000 And can you imagine what these kids with battle gear are doing?

01:47:43.000 And they are having heart attacks and everything over there.

01:47:46.000 The people over there, especially the Guard and the Reserve, they're all out of shape.

01:47:51.000 It gets freezing cold in the winter.

01:47:54.000 Yeah.

01:47:55.000 In the top half of Iraq, and then it gets boiling hot nationwide.

01:48:00.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 I have read 133 degrees.

01:48:04.000 That's right.

01:48:04.000 That's hot, baby.

01:48:06.000 You just picked her up.

01:48:07.000 No, I did two-a-days once when it was 117, and they didn't cancel the two-a-days.

01:48:13.000 Some of the other high schools did.

01:48:15.000 Well, you know what the bad part is, when it comes right down to it, the one-worlders Trying to take our borders away and destroy our sovereignty and the Iraqis are actually fighting our war against the one worlders and we're killing the Iraqis. 0.96

01:48:34.000 Unbelievable Barney, thank you for your call.

01:48:36.000 There's a World War II for you.

01:48:39.000 That's some amazing testimony Cindy.

01:48:42.000 Yes, well you know what, I guess war has always been really bad but Like you said, if we were attacked, if the United States was in danger, we would all defend our country.

01:48:55.000 I'd go out with my rolling pin to try and get, you know, the attackers out of the country.

01:49:00.000 And I don't blame the Iraqi people for my son's death at all.

01:49:04.000 You know, we do the same thing.

01:49:06.000 In fact, we did the same thing in the Revolutionary War, you know, so we could be free from Great Britain. 0.82

01:49:12.000 And, you know, it's just amazing to me that More than half of America think that this is a moral and just war that we're fighting.

01:49:22.000 Well, it isn't more than half America.

01:49:23.000 I've talked to people.

01:49:24.000 That's propaganda.

01:49:25.000 I hope so.

01:49:27.000 I hope you're right.

01:49:29.000 We'll be back and I'm told that Louie disagrees and we'll go to Steve as well.

01:49:34.000 I'll try to hold my guest up about five minutes over to the next hour so we have more time to take your calls.

01:49:39.000 Then we've got a guest coming on to talk about the new national security minion, the torture lord, Negroponte.

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01:54:50.000 Louie in Texas, I hear you disagree with something.

01:54:53.000 You're on the air.

01:54:54.000 Go ahead.

01:54:55.000 Can you hear me?

01:54:55.000 Yes, I can.

01:54:56.000 Yes, sir.

01:54:57.000 Okay, Mr. Jones, I'm a subscriber to your website.

01:55:05.000 My disagreeance with you is that you're not screaming loud enough.

01:55:11.000 I knew it.

01:55:11.000 We are in trouble.

01:55:14.000 And let me tell you something, another thing that makes me mad, I tried to download Police State 3 and for some reason I can't view it.

01:55:22.000 That's the best thing I've ever seen.

01:55:25.000 People need to see that video.

01:55:27.000 Well, send an email and we'll check it.

01:55:30.000 It might be the file's too big.

01:55:33.000 Do you have high bandwidth or low bandwidth?

01:55:34.000 I have high bandwidth and I mean it took forever to download it and I get it and I can't even see it.

01:55:39.000 And I'm telling you, I think it's your masterpiece.

01:55:42.000 Well, what I'll do... But you need to make more noise.

01:55:45.000 I mean, our lives are in your hands, people like you.

01:55:49.000 You have power out there.

01:55:51.000 You need to make more noise.

01:55:52.000 You're not making enough noise.

01:55:53.000 I mean, just really get out there and make more noise.

01:55:57.000 I love your work, and we are in a serious situation in history right now.

01:56:04.000 Sandy, do you have anything to say to what our caller is saying?

01:56:08.000 Well, I'm screaming so loud I'm losing my voice.

01:56:11.000 So, I was screaming out in the rain the other day, and you know, we just need more people to help us, Louie, so join us in our I want people to know that this is not a joke.

01:56:24.000 take a lot of us screaming to wake America up because we can't wake this administration up.

01:56:30.000 Well, I want people to know that this is not a joke.

01:56:35.000 The troops really do have to pay for their own food.

01:56:38.000 They really do. - They tell them you've got to have clean uniforms, but then they charge them $100 for 10 pounds of laundry.

01:56:48.000 I mean, this has never been done.

01:56:50.000 Our government's so corrupt, the private corporations there literally ensure that they suck every amount of money out of their paychecks, and then nothing goes home to the families.

01:56:59.000 I mean, this is so evil.

01:57:01.000 This has never been done before.

01:57:03.000 Well, right, the families are left at home, too.

01:57:06.000 They're on food stamps, you know, they're on They're on welfare.

01:57:10.000 They can't make ends meet.

01:57:11.000 They're losing their homes.

01:57:13.000 They're losing their cars.

01:57:14.000 Especially our troops in the National Guard who joined to guard the nation and were sent to a war.

01:57:21.000 So, if there's a draft coming, it's going to be here.

01:57:26.000 And your sons and daughters won't even be able to join the National Guard.

01:57:29.000 And it's going to come after the Globalists carry out another terror attack. 0.98

01:57:32.000 And they won't be safe in the National Guard.

01:57:34.000 Absolutely.

01:57:35.000 Louie, thanks for the call.

01:57:36.000 Stay there for five more minutes.

01:57:37.000 We're going to start the third hour.

01:57:39.000 Stay with us.

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01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 You don't want to miss the interview that's coming up here in about five minutes with Matthew Rothschild.

01:58:14.000 Editor of the Progressive Magazine on Bush's pick of Negroponte for National Intelligence Director.

01:58:22.000 That's coming up.

01:58:23.000 The Lord of Torture to get a bigger post for himself.

01:58:27.000 I love all these Iran-Contra crooks being in control. 0.83

01:58:31.000 We are talking to Cindy Sheehan who lost her son in Iraq last year.

01:58:36.000 She started Gold Star Families for Peace and he was a specialist and was killed in an attack on their home V column.

01:58:42.000 Let's take it quickly, callers.

01:58:44.000 I want to get a few of the callers that have been holding the longest in here.

01:58:47.000 Let's talk to Steve in Ohio.

01:58:49.000 Thanks for holding, Steve.

01:58:50.000 You're on the air.

01:58:51.000 Yes, hello, Alex, and hello, Cindy.

01:58:53.000 I'm so sorry to hear about your son.

01:58:53.000 Hello.

01:58:55.000 Thank you, Steve.

01:58:56.000 And, unfortunately, he died for the love of money.

01:58:59.000 Right.

01:59:00.000 Which, of course, is the root of all evil.

01:59:02.000 You know, we've got fascism now in control of the government.

01:59:05.000 You know, that's business controlling the government, which is fascism.

01:59:08.000 Right, exactly.

01:59:10.000 The troops are nothing more than property or assets to be used.

01:59:14.000 Now, the war, in my opinion, was about Saddam not accepting dollars for payment for oil, and there was a lot of talk in the Middle East about that occurring.

01:59:23.000 Now, the Fed needed to put a stop to any of the talk about dumping the dollar, and it came out yesterday evening, Alex, that the Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, Daddy Bush, Newt Gingrich, and many big players in Washington, D.C., were also involved in the food for oil scandal.

01:59:41.000 No, I knew that.

01:59:44.000 The only company allowed by the sanctions to sell in Iraq was Halliburton.

01:59:48.000 They write all this for themselves.

01:59:51.000 But see, the left goes, oh look, they're involved, and the right goes, oh, Coffee Inn's involved.

01:59:54.000 The point is, they're all involved.

01:59:56.000 Yeah, but the Federal Reserve actually made more money than any other group.

02:00:01.000 Hey, the Federal Reserve, this came out a year and a half ago, the Federal Reserve takes the money from Iraq, from the oil, and puts it in its own bank account.

02:00:09.000 Just type in Federal Reserve taking oil money.

02:00:11.000 No, I mean, it's true!

02:00:12.000 Yeah.

02:00:13.000 You know what?

02:00:15.000 If you want to be heard, you really need to not call in on speaker phones.

02:00:19.000 I'm not on a speaker phone Alex.

02:00:20.000 Well, sounds like it.

02:00:21.000 Well, anyway, also the Iraqi elections.

02:00:21.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:23.000 We were told how great they were.

02:00:26.000 Well, unfortunately, we're going to end up having fundamentalism over in Iraq. 0.94

02:00:31.000 And there's going to be a war again.

02:00:33.000 We're going to end up going to war with Iran and Syria. 0.97

02:00:37.000 Well, that's how they make money. 0.85

02:00:38.000 I've got to let you go.

02:00:38.000 I appreciate the call.

02:00:40.000 We're going to take one more call here.

02:00:41.000 Who was up next in train here?

02:00:44.000 Danny in Oklahoma.

02:00:45.000 Go ahead quickly, Danny.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, Alex, we're already slaves and when you join the military you become a voluntary servitude to the United States government.

02:00:56.000 But you're not allowed to give your slaves experimental shots.

02:00:59.000 That's the law.

02:00:59.000 You're not allowed to put them in DU environments.

02:01:03.000 Well, we're not operating under the Constitution or the law.

02:01:06.000 You know that.

02:01:07.000 No, I know.

02:01:08.000 So what do we do?

02:01:10.000 I mean, I'm a disabled veteran and I am Mad.

02:01:14.000 But what can I do?

02:01:15.000 I mean, I can yell and scream.

02:01:17.000 But the apathy out there... Well, you can do one big thing.

02:01:19.000 By law now, the military's in the schools recruiting, and they tell them, doesn't matter what your parents say, just sign here.

02:01:25.000 I mean, it is sick.

02:01:27.000 I was going to tell you to go to your recruiting centers.

02:01:31.000 Pass out leaflets to the kids.

02:01:33.000 Do protests in front of the recruiting centers.

02:01:37.000 Does he lie to them, boy?

02:01:39.000 My son, his recruiter broke six promises to him.

02:01:44.000 The folks they admit, I've talked to recruiters, they're told to lie to you.

02:01:48.000 And they will tell you that you're going to be a mechanic, or you're going to be a jet pilot, and you will be on the front lines paying for your food.

02:01:58.000 I'll tell you how they're lying.

02:01:59.000 I went to the recruiter to go in as an officer and they told me that they're meeting their quotas and like you said they're lowering their quotas because when I called the personnel center they said we're hurting for people so the double speak out there's just incredible right I feel for you for losing your son but my sons and daughters aren't going in I'll Oh no, don't let them go in.

02:02:22.000 Don't let them go in.

02:02:23.000 Do everything you can.

02:02:24.000 If there's a draft, send them away.

02:02:27.000 Alright, give us that website again real quick, Cindy.

02:02:31.000 www.gsfp.org God bless you, my dear, and I'm sorry about the loss of your son, but you're going to save a lot of other sons and daughters by what you're doing.

02:02:41.000 Take care.

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02:06:10.000 It is Thursday, the 17th day of February 05.

02:06:14.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host for the second segment of this hour.

02:06:19.000 We are joined by the editor of the Progressive Magazine.

02:06:22.000 He's Matthew Rothschild.

02:06:25.000 He's talking about Bush's pick of John Negroponte for National Intelligence Director, basically to control all the intelligence agencies and to make sure that, well, stuff doesn't leak out and they have little 9-11 type operations for us to give us the new draft and the next level of the police state.

02:06:44.000 And I've read Mr. Rothschild's writings many times over the years.

02:06:48.000 They're quite interesting.

02:06:49.000 And it's good to have him on the air with us.

02:06:52.000 Mr. Rothschild, thanks for coming on.

02:06:54.000 It's my pleasure.

02:06:55.000 Good afternoon.

02:06:56.000 Tell us about yourself and your magazine and then let's get into Negroponte, I mean, it looks like to be in the administration you've got to have credentials in death squads and torture.

02:06:56.000 You bet.

02:07:08.000 Yeah, that seems to be a prerequisite and this guy really has got dirty hands.

02:07:12.000 I mean, Negroponte was involved as U.S.

02:07:15.000 Ambassador in Honduras in the early 1980s with approving or condoning the torture that the Honduran government was doing there.

02:07:24.000 there was a battalion called Battalion 316 that the Honduran government had operating there.

02:07:31.000 It was trained by the CIA and had killed at least 189 people, including throwing people out of planes.

02:07:36.000 And Negro Ponce covered up for them and wrote Congress that the Honduran government was having a fine human rights record when actually it was deep into this kind of serious, I've been at the Progressive here for 23 years. 0.89

02:07:49.000 because of his specialties.

02:07:51.000 He radiates evil, but let's go back.

02:07:53.000 Let's talk about you, sir.

02:07:55.000 Tell folks who you are, and then let's talk about the magazine. - Sure.

02:07:59.000 I've been at The Progressive here for 23 years.

02:08:01.000 The Progressive magazine was founded in 1909 by fighting Bob LaFollette, one of the original progressives.

02:08:07.000 And we've been, ever since, trying to put forward these ideas of civil rights and civil liberties and nonviolence and in opposition to US administration adventurism overseas and a control on corporate power.

02:08:20.000 Those are the pillars of progressivism as we see it.

02:08:23.000 And so we're a monthly magazine.

02:08:24.000 We're on the web at progressive.org.

02:08:26.000 We've got about 65,000 subscribers around the country.

02:08:29.000 Well, before we get into Negroponte and I Love Torture Gonzales and Bushes Above the Law Gonzales and just this whole gaggle of creatures, I've always been curious about that.

02:08:40.000 So you're related to the famous European Rothschild family, or are you not?

02:08:44.000 I'm not.

02:08:44.000 You know, if I had a dollar every time I was asked that, maybe I would be one of those European bankers by now, but no, there's no relation.

02:08:52.000 Well, because I'm wondering, because that family had another name and they changed it, you know, Red Shield in German Rothschild.

02:08:57.000 So I guess other people took the name Red Shield?

02:09:00.000 Mostly it was just, you know, it is a German name and it's a big family in Europe was involved in banking and then in wine business.

02:09:07.000 But yeah, Rothschild in German means Red Shield.

02:09:10.000 But it's always been Rothschild for my family, which came over in 1848 when a lot of Jews left Germany because of programs over there.

02:09:17.000 So we've been here ever since.

02:09:19.000 I was just curious because we love to get somebody from N.M.

02:09:23.000 Rothschild on.

02:09:25.000 It seems like some of the Rothschilds in Europe are involved in some of this globalism as well.

02:09:30.000 Well, I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but...

02:09:33.000 I've got no connection with European rock charts.

02:09:35.000 Necroponte, what you just said about him is the lightest stuff.

02:09:37.000 interesting uh you know just historically you know napoleon all of the battle of waterloo but just very interesting uh so i mean necroponte i mean you really what you just said about him i think is the kind of the lightest stuff i mean this guy has just been involved in so much dirt and bush is really openly saying he's above the law and building a scary mechanism that They're sending Homeland Security out to toy stores to harass people over copyright infringement or trademark infringement.

02:10:07.000 They're arresting veterans that complain too much.

02:10:10.000 I mean, it's like they're building some type of cross between Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. 0.63

02:10:15.000 I'm not just worried about foreign countries being under all this.

02:10:18.000 I'm worried about America.

02:10:20.000 Well, you've got to be worried about our civil rights and civil liberties, Alex, with what's going on with the U.S.A.

02:10:24.000 Patriot Act and with even addendums to the U.S.A.

02:10:27.000 Patriot Act that have been passed that allow the government, essentially, to forget about the judiciary and not go and get a warrant to go search your place.

02:10:35.000 They can write up their own warrants and go snoop on you any time they want.

02:10:38.000 So that's a real serious issue domestically.

02:10:40.000 Negro Poxy's got just one of the longest bloody trails of anyone in power right now, and he was a guy who in Vietnam is Henry Kissinger's deputy. 0.98

02:10:49.000 ...was suggesting to Kissinger that the United States shouldn't make a deal.

02:10:53.000 They shouldn't end the Vietnam War. 0.98

02:10:55.000 That they should keep fighting the Vietnam War. 0.96

02:10:57.000 I don't know how long he wanted to keep fighting the Vietnam War, but he was to the right of Henry Kissinger during those days, which gives you an idea about where he's coming from.

02:11:06.000 Well, I had Selly Castillo on, who was the head DEA agent for seven years for Latin America, and he said Necroponte was involved in everything, not just death squads.

02:11:16.000 And he said this guy was like a super gopher who was controlling everything.

02:11:20.000 Well, he was controlling the illegal contra war for Ronald Reagan in the early 1980s as ambassador to Honduras.

02:11:28.000 So he must have known about the Iran-Contra, the drugs-for-weapons deal, all the stuff that Oliver North was doing and a lot of other illegal activity there.

02:11:37.000 But the thing that disturbs me most really is his just covering up for torture.

02:11:42.000 I mean, there were people who had fled El Salvador after Archbishop Romero was killed by death squads that the U.S.

02:11:48.000 was funding in El Salvador.

02:11:50.000 And Archbishop Romero's secretary, a woman, was one of 30 women who this battalion in Honduras took up into airplanes and flew out of planes.

02:11:59.000 And then when some American citizens, including some nuns, went down there to ask Negro Ponce what happened, he pretended he knew nothing about it. 0.62

02:12:08.000 He lied to them, he lied to Congress. 0.65

02:12:10.000 This guy is an operator, a very bloody operator for the U.S. 0.95

02:12:15.000 Empire.

02:12:16.000 And so it's a scary thing for me to believe that he's going to be head of intelligence here.

02:12:20.000 I mean, it seems to me that the Bush administration is sending an unmistakable message to people around the world with the appointment of Gonzales and now of Negroponte that, you know, torture is in.

02:12:31.000 Well, you were You know, talking about how he's this bloody operator, but then you mention U.S.

02:12:38.000 Empire.

02:12:39.000 I mean, to say U.S.

02:12:40.000 Empire, it's a global corporate empire that sees America as using us as an engine of domination for the planet, a huge battering ram.

02:12:49.000 But, I mean, I find the left, I don't believe in the left and right, it's all a false paradigm.

02:12:54.000 I mean, the Democrats are basically voting as much as the Republicans are for all this police, state, and war.

02:12:59.000 And Clinton did all the same stuff. 0.96

02:13:01.000 And Clinton supports this war.

02:13:03.000 Hillary, all of them.

02:13:05.000 So I think to say U.S.

02:13:07.000 Empire kind of psychologically draws these lines and people go, yeah, I'm for America! 0.99

02:13:11.000 You know, shut up, Rothschild! 0.98

02:13:13.000 Well, I do hear that, Alex. 1.00

02:13:15.000 I get that on the web, too.

02:13:17.000 But I do think the United States is an empire.

02:13:20.000 I do think it is useful to continue to talk in terms of right and left sometimes.

02:13:25.000 I think more Democrats and certainly more progressives are opposed to this war in Iraq, though there is some support for getting out of the war on the right as well.

02:13:34.000 And I think we need to recognize that we're no longer really a functioning democracy here because the interests of the U.S.

02:13:41.000 corporate elite and also the interests of the people like Negroponte and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who run U.S.

02:13:49.000 foreign policy is antithetical to the interests of most of the people in this country.

02:13:56.000 I mean, and our founders would be aghast at war and empire.

02:13:58.000 Well, let's talk about the press.

02:14:00.000 I'm sure you know that Tony Blakely a few weeks ago called for grabbing Seymour Hersh and having him executed.

02:14:04.000 Oh, that's lovely.

02:14:06.000 Yeah, people like Michael Weiner-Savage called for putting people who disagree with the government in forced labor camps.

02:14:12.000 Michelle Malkin writes the book, The Case for Internment Camps.

02:14:16.000 Everywhere, I mean, really, this is like a Twilight Zone episode, Matthew.

02:14:23.000 And you've been the editor of this major magazine for several decades.

02:14:27.000 You've been watching this.

02:14:29.000 I want to look into your crystal ball.

02:14:32.000 From your experience, I want your predictions.

02:14:34.000 This is why I ask everybody who comes on this broadcast about these subjects.

02:14:38.000 What do you see happening in the next four years?

02:14:41.000 Well, you know what scares me the most, Alex, is the possibility that the United States is attacked again by terrorists, this time with a chemical or biological weapon.

02:14:50.000 And if the United States is attacked again, I think, if Katie barred the door, I think the Bush administration will go attack just about every country that Bush doesn't like.

02:15:00.000 Maybe Iceland!

02:15:01.000 Well, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba... Yeah, I was being sarcastic.

02:15:04.000 I mean, if North Korea said, we did it, I think Bush would attack Iceland.

02:15:09.000 I don't know.

02:15:10.000 I still think he wants to attack North Korea even though the Pentagon has done a war game on that and a million people would die in the first five days according to its own estimates.

02:15:18.000 But I think Bush thinks he's, you know, he's got the message from God that he's got to go attack this country, that country, and the next to deliver the gift of freedom.

02:15:26.000 And that's a very scary thing for me.

02:15:29.000 So Bush's messianic militarism scares me.

02:15:31.000 And the possibility, after the United States is attacked again, of the United States imposing martial law.

02:15:37.000 And that's something you don't hear about a lot.

02:15:39.000 That's what Tommy Frank said.

02:15:40.000 Yeah, Frank said it.

02:15:41.000 But not only that, there's another senior administration official at the Pondlevick office who used the exact phrase.

02:15:47.000 And that was Wayne Downing, one of Condoleezza Rice's deputies, who said, if we're attacked again, this time with weapons of mass destruction, we're going to have to declare martial law.

02:15:56.000 Well, that's what Eberhardt said, too.

02:15:59.000 And I was on a panel with a U.S.

02:16:02.000 attorney, the head of counterterrorism in Wisconsin, when I was talking to some University of Wisconsin-Green Bay about this. 0.58

02:16:10.000 And I mentioned this fear, and I thought he was going to say, oh, that crazy Rothschild from that crazy left-wing magazine, The Progressive, he doesn't know what he's talking about. 0.60

02:16:17.000 Declaring martial law would be the last thing we'd ever do.

02:16:19.000 No, he said, we've got to really consider this.

02:16:21.000 This is something we've got to get on the table.

02:16:22.000 Well, there was a Gannett News Service article in 2003 where they said, we're going to lock down the schools, take your children, take them to FEMA camps, under a code red, you have no rights, it will be martial law, we'll be formed into work brigades.

02:16:36.000 I mean, this is their cover for total dictatorship.

02:16:40.000 Well, I don't think it would come to that, but I do think they've got plans underway on the shelves that they could, you know, bring out just as they brought out plans after September 11th to ram the Patriot Act down our throats to really curtail our freedoms.

02:16:52.000 Wayne Downing, Condoleezza Rice's deputy at the National Security Council, was saying we're going to have to have The Army be able to arrest people.

02:17:00.000 Well, to show my ignorance here, I've seen a dozen other officials say this, but I wasn't aware of Wayne Downing saying that.

02:17:06.000 Can you give me maybe the headline for an article so I can Google that and get it posted?

02:17:11.000 Yeah, I mean, you can just Google it, Wayne Downing and martial law, and I think in Washington Post it will come up.

02:17:19.000 I believe it was in December of 2002.

02:17:20.000 Oh, man.

02:17:24.000 They're just slobbering, foaming at the mouth for this. 0.83

02:17:27.000 Yeah, I mean, this is the most anti-democratic administration maybe ever, certainly since the days of Richard Nixon running around drunk in the White House.

02:17:38.000 Oh, Richard Nixon was an angel compared to these people.

02:17:41.000 He wanted to bomb the brookies.

02:17:41.000 I don't know.

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02:21:56.000 Alright, we're talking to Matthew Rothschild, editor of the Progressive Magazine on Bush's pick of Negroponte for National Intelligence Director.

02:22:05.000 Coming up in the next segment, we're going to be taking your calls, toll-free number to join us, 1-800-255-99231.

02:22:12.000 You mentioned another Bush administration official, Rice's deputy, who talked about martial law that I wasn't aware of.

02:22:19.000 I was aware of Eberhardt and Franks and a bunch of others, but tell us about this other individual.

02:22:25.000 You actually pulled that article out.

02:22:27.000 Yeah, I grabbed it here in my little file.

02:22:30.000 This is an article from the Washington Post dated Tuesday, December 24th.

02:22:33.000 It started on the front with the title, In U.S.

02:22:36.000 Terrorism's Peril Undiminished, and it goes on then for about 50 paragraphs and about paragraph 37 which gives you an idea about the Washington Post really putting the important stuff at the top.

02:22:48.000 Here is Wayne Downing, Condoleezza Rice's deputy, now retired.

02:22:53.000 The United States may have to declare martial law someday, Downing said, in the case of a devastating attack with weapons of mass destruction causing tens of thousands of casualties.

02:23:03.000 This could mean that the military would be given the authority to impose curfews, protect businesses and communities, even make arrests, unquote.

02:23:12.000 And so during the fog of all this, they can run around and arrest the dissidents and do whatever they want, and meanwhile rob pension funds and run their scams while the smoke screen's going.

02:23:22.000 Yeah, they can just get away with doing that thing. 0.88

02:23:24.000 I mean, they can just suspend the Constitution.

02:23:26.000 That's what Tommy Franks was talking about, and he was regretting that.

02:23:29.000 He saw it coming and said, this is going to be bad.

02:23:31.000 He and Wayne Downing is almost celebrating it.

02:23:34.000 Well, he was putting it in prose of, it's real sad, but this is what's going to happen and what the people want.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, he was blaming the people.

02:23:41.000 You're absolutely right.

02:23:42.000 When it's not the people who's going to impose martial law, come on.

02:23:45.000 Well, number one, martial law doesn't keep us safe.

02:23:48.000 Martial law is... Again, we've got... 0.83

02:23:51.000 The CBS News reported that $2.4 trillion is missing from the Pentagon in the last decade.

02:23:57.000 And that number has doubled.

02:23:59.000 It was only $1.2 trillion under Clinton, which is bad enough.

02:24:02.000 Now it's another $1.2 trillion just while Bush has been in. 0.96

02:24:05.000 This is mad, insane stealing and looting.

02:24:10.000 Yeah, you know, they're just getting away with everything hand over fist here.

02:24:14.000 You know, again, I just don't think the American people are going to go for this if they knew it was going to happen.

02:24:20.000 And at some point, I'm hoping that a majority of Americans are going to rise up and say, no, I'm delighted that about 350 towns and cities and counties around the country, people have gotten together and passed ordinances and resolutions saying that they're not going to cooperate and their local police aren't going to cooperate with the federal government when it comes knocking with the USA Patriot Act.

02:24:43.000 And so I think there's a rebellion, both on the left and on the right, against this USA Patriot Act and this invasion of our rights and liberties.

02:24:53.000 Well, it's over 400 cities and 4 states now.

02:24:57.000 Yeah, I think the states are Alaska, Hawaii, Vermont, and Maine.

02:25:00.000 Yeah, but now I've noticed, since it went over about 200 cities, now you never see it in the news anymore.

02:25:07.000 This has been a totally undercover story.

02:25:10.000 I mean, this has been happening now ever since the Patriot came down.

02:25:14.000 I think it started in Northampton, Massachusetts, and it's hardly getting any national coverage.

02:25:18.000 Well, I was there and led the fight here in Austin and got it thrown out.

02:25:23.000 But since then, I mean, I hear about towns and cities doing it and the news just, you know, national coverage doesn't pick it up.

02:25:30.000 In Chicago, I think it was unanimous by the city council.

02:25:32.000 I mean, it's not just places like Madison, Wisconsin and Austin, Texas.

02:25:37.000 And it's a lot of conservative cities.

02:25:39.000 Absolutely.

02:25:40.000 A lot of the conservatives out West, they don't want the police.

02:25:42.000 You know, the Patriot Act that Bush just yesterday said, we've got to renew the Patriot Act.

02:25:46.000 That means expand, by the way.

02:25:48.000 Yeah, and the Patriot Act means the police can come into your house when you're not there, go through all your files, get on the computer, put a recording device on your computer, and then leave and never tell you about it.

02:25:57.000 I mean, do people really want the police to be able to do that?

02:26:00.000 Without warrants.

02:26:01.000 It's like these big regional rubber stamp warrants.

02:26:04.000 where they just sign one for a region.

02:26:07.000 Of course, Patriot Act II, it's got secret arrest of citizens.

02:26:11.000 You know the definition in Section 802 of the first Patriot Act is any action that endangers human life but is a violation of any federal or state law.

02:26:18.000 Well, this is what Martin Luther King under the Patriot Act would be considered domestic terrorist because he was violating a law at the same time he was trying to change government policy.

02:26:27.000 And that, under the Patriot Act, can be construed as intimidation.

02:26:31.000 And if it's intimidation, then you're a terrorist.

02:26:33.000 And that's unbelievable.

02:26:34.000 What about these reports now where Second Amendment demonstrators or anti-war protesters stand there with a sign on a street corner, and they're getting two years in prison?

02:26:44.000 I mean, they've been ruling this, but there's no First Amendment.

02:26:48.000 Well, the thing that I've been following, and I think anyone who is standing on blocking traffic and engaging in civil disobedience can be dragged through the USA Patriot Act machinery and go to jail for it, but anyone who tries to protest the President is being either put into free speech zones a mile away, and some of them are getting arrested.

02:27:08.000 I know people who've been protesting the President when he's coming through towns and they have signs up and they're arrested and held overnight.

02:27:15.000 Well, I mean, I've got video of it on the news during the inauguration.

02:27:18.000 They kept the protesters way far away, and if anybody got through and then pulled out a little sign, they just arrested them.

02:27:25.000 You know, we can't have the Emperor seeing the slaves not worship his little beady-eyed twitliness.

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02:31:02.000 We're talking to the editor of the Progressive Magazine and it's done a lot of really in-depth reporting about Negroponte and others.

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02:34:14.000 Going back to the editor of the Progressive Magazine, Matthew Rothschild, and before I get a bunch of calls, you heard him, no relation to the banking house Rothschild.

02:34:26.000 I'm sure those calls are about to come up here.

02:34:29.000 Going back to Matthew, any other key points you want to throw out there before we go to these calls?

02:34:39.000 Bringing people's attention to the problems of our civil liberties after 9-11.

02:34:42.000 I mean, the Bush administration has really been taking them away.

02:34:45.000 I mean, there's the Patriot Act.

02:34:46.000 There's these little acts that follow the Patriot Act.

02:34:48.000 There's the 2004 Intelligence Authorization Act that allows the FBI to go to the post office and read your mail.

02:34:55.000 They just passed the new Freedom Initiative for forced psychological testing.

02:34:59.000 They just passed a national ID card guy in December.

02:35:02.000 Yeah, I mean, they're trying to take our rights away, and people should certainly oppose the reauthorization of the Patriot Act.

02:35:08.000 If you do nothing else, tell your Congress people not to go for that, because that is just allowing the police into your office, into your bedroom.

02:35:15.000 Well, I wrote the first analysis of Patriot Act 1.

02:35:18.000 I'm not kidding.

02:35:18.000 Within days of it passing, I also wrote one of the first synopses of the Patriot 2, but in there, and I have this article still there from October 2001, folks, Where I show the subsection, it says the sunset is on little tertiary capillary sections of the act.

02:35:40.000 The real tyrannical elements are not sunsetted, so that's a red herring.

02:35:45.000 If you listen to what he says carefully, it's we need to reauthorize and expand.

02:35:50.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what he's after.

02:35:51.000 And the very definition of what a domestic terrorist is, that's not going to be censored.

02:35:55.000 You're absolutely right.

02:35:56.000 I mean, that's part of the act that isn't up for renewal.

02:35:59.000 That's there until they repeal it.

02:36:00.000 And I think people should demand that that be repealed.

02:36:03.000 Because anyone who wants to protest U.S. 0.83

02:36:05.000 policy by engaging in civil disobedience that goes all the way back to the Boston Tea Party, I mean, are we all going to be considered domestic terrorists now?

02:36:13.000 Well, there are literally hundreds of cases.

02:36:16.000 I lost count.

02:36:17.000 of pot dealers, county commissioners, bid rigging, complaining, you know, copyright infringements.

02:36:25.000 They're using the Patriot Act against everybody already!

02:36:28.000 Yeah, they're just throwing the book at people and they're using everything they can to detain people.

02:36:33.000 They're using the so-called material witness statute that used to be to hold people who were testifying in mob cases from fleeing.

02:36:39.000 Then they're using that for anyone that they want to hold for whatever purposes they feel like it essentially these days.

02:36:45.000 It's amazing.

02:36:46.000 Kyle in California.

02:36:47.000 Kyle, go ahead.

02:36:48.000 You're on the air.

02:36:50.000 Alex, thank you very much.

02:36:52.000 You are the man.

02:36:53.000 I just wanted to say keep yourself safe and keep yourself healthy because we're in for a long fight.

02:36:57.000 I just wanted to lay out an invitation to Mr. Rothschild because I'm a regular KPFA listener here in the Bay Area and I vividly remember before our stage selection, the local I'll talk to Mr. Rothschild during the break and I'll say, you know, it's a Nazi death cult. 0.89

02:37:13.000 and he kind of coo-poot it as a little social organization.

02:37:15.000 And I wanted to invite him to prisonfinite.tv and listen to the interview from the man who wrote the book on skull and bones.

02:37:23.000 Maybe he can be a little bit more informed next time the opportunity comes up.

02:37:26.000 Well, I talked to Mr. Rothschild during the break, and I said, you know, it's a Nazi death cult. 0.85

02:37:30.000 He said, oh, no, no.

02:37:31.000 I mean, you really should look into two skull and bones and these Thule and Thule Society organizations because they really have more power than I think you know.

02:37:42.000 Well, I mean, I just don't agree with you, Alex or Kyle, on Skull and Bones.

02:37:45.000 I really don't think that Skull and Bones Society and the people who belong to it or have gone through it have anything really to do about power in America, who's got it, who's using it, and why they're using it.

02:37:57.000 And I think we're missing the point when we're focusing on those kinds of things.

02:38:01.000 I mean, the point is, you've got right now, you've got Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney.

02:38:06.000 Those guys are running the show.

02:38:07.000 And when Clinton was there, he was doing the bidding of U.S.

02:38:09.000 corporations, too.

02:38:10.000 We've got to see who's got the power and why they're using it.

02:38:12.000 It's not because they went through skull and bones.

02:38:14.000 It's because they're going to make money by letting the U.S.

02:38:18.000 military open up more markets overseas and letting the IMF and the World Bank open up those markets for them.

02:38:23.000 I appreciate that perspective.

02:38:24.000 I really do.

02:38:25.000 I'm here and I see so much crossover between good guests on supposed left programs here in the Bay Area and so much identity derived from people associating themselves as progressives or lefties.

02:38:39.000 But there are good people on both sides that get caught up in this schism.

02:38:44.000 I just think you have an opportunity to maybe bridge that gap a little bit.

02:38:48.000 Well, I appreciate that, Calum.

02:38:49.000 I'm glad you've been listening to all sorts of sides, because I think that's what people should do.

02:38:52.000 I mean, people should get out of the custom of just listening to people that they always agree with, and you know, you're living in just a little igloo then.

02:39:00.000 You might as well, you know, sample everything that's out there and come to your own conclusions.

02:39:04.000 Yeah, don't live in a bubble.

02:39:05.000 Well, that's what we try to do on this broadcast.

02:39:07.000 Let's talk to Leon in Colorado.

02:39:09.000 Leon, go ahead.

02:39:11.000 Yeah, I just really appreciate your program today.

02:39:15.000 Unfortunately, I can only get about an hour of it because of the programming over here at Johnstown.

02:39:22.000 Well, say, Lovie, what's going on?

02:39:24.000 Well, I just have a question for your guest there.

02:39:31.000 It's obvious to me that whenever Bush comes to our Congress, they're like my dog.

02:39:35.000 He says, roll over, and they roll over.

02:39:39.000 Hello?

02:39:40.000 Yeah.

02:39:41.000 Is there anything we can do, or what do we do, I mean, to reach these guys?

02:39:51.000 I mean, they just seem to be more of a problem than anybody else.

02:39:57.000 Well, let me just say this.

02:39:59.000 The Founding Fathers said gridlock was good, and obstructionism was good.

02:40:04.000 Instead, it's like they've greased the skids, and they're going wild.

02:40:09.000 Everything is passing.

02:40:10.000 Nothing is being... It's being resisted, but they just... I mean, it's like toll roads in Austin.

02:40:14.000 Ninety-plus percent are against it.

02:40:16.000 We've caught all the fraud and bribery, but they just go, we're doing it because private corporations want to tax the roads.

02:40:21.000 It's just a raping, looting, wild orgy of corruption.

02:40:25.000 Matthew, comments?

02:40:27.000 Well, I think people need to pressure their legislators and tell them if they don't stand up and stand up for the people's good, that they're going to not get their vote.

02:40:33.000 And they do.

02:40:34.000 The one thing politicians look at is their possibility of getting re-elected.

02:40:37.000 That's the only pressure you have on them.

02:40:39.000 I mean, I do think some of these lopsided votes, you've just got to scratch your head.

02:40:43.000 I mean, the Patriot Act passed the U.S.

02:40:44.000 Senate 98-1.

02:40:46.000 Russ Feingold was the only senator, my senator from Wisconsin.

02:40:50.000 That's what I'm asking.

02:40:50.000 What is it with Congress?

02:40:51.000 time to elaborate it it was issued an hour before I'm it's incredible that that got ran through like that and then you know or just take the homeland security at church of he passed 98 to nothing I mean here was a guy what is it with Congress that's what I'm asking is are they just sitting there totally scared to death or they got I'll tell you what it is.

02:41:10.000 A lot of them have got a mistress and they've got photos of that.

02:41:13.000 A lot of them are put there by corporations that are paying for them to do it.

02:41:17.000 And a lot of them are just lazy. 0.99

02:41:18.000 I mean, it's just they're a bunch of crooks. 0.98

02:41:20.000 And a lot of them are scared of Bush and Rove. 0.96

02:41:23.000 Yeah, they don't want to get an anthrax letter.

02:41:28.000 Well, I know our congressman, he changed his tune.

02:41:31.000 He didn't vote for the last Last one of these things, and I know that he was getting a lot of pressure because... Well, here's an example.

02:41:39.000 G. Gordon Liddy and Dr. Laura came out against the new Freedom Force psychological testing, and they got millions of phone calls.

02:41:47.000 Right.

02:41:47.000 And then they fired G. Gordon Liddy.

02:41:50.000 I mean, literally, either you tow absolute Bush worship line, or you are gone.

02:41:57.000 And I've talked to people in this industry.

02:41:59.000 I mean, that is how it is unless you're on this network.

02:42:02.000 Well, I can't even stand to listen to him talk or see his face anymore, so I guess I really have a hard time hearing anything he says.

02:42:08.000 Well, look, Air America isn't going to help anybody because they're only giving you the left-wing view and not talking about how corrupt their party is.

02:42:15.000 You see, that's the problem.

02:42:17.000 Everybody's blind to, like, one side of the paradigm.

02:42:20.000 Well, you're absolutely right, Alex.

02:42:21.000 And, you know, I got your film here and I'm going to be watching it.

02:42:30.000 You're absolutely right.

02:42:31.000 It isn't a right-left, it isn't a Democrat, it isn't a Republican.

02:42:35.000 And this is the only way I've ever reached anybody to say, whoa!

02:42:39.000 That has nothing to do with whether I'm a Republican.

02:42:41.000 I didn't think of the word populist.

02:42:43.000 I said, I'm just an American that believes in a constitutional republic.

02:42:47.000 Well, it's like this.

02:42:48.000 You have to talk to these people like they're children.

02:42:50.000 I've had arguments throughout my life that professional wrestling isn't real.

02:42:54.000 If you say, I don't like Hulk Hogan, Then they go, don't talk bad about my hero.

02:42:59.000 You have to explain, no, no, no, it isn't real.

02:43:01.000 They're not really having a fight out there.

02:43:04.000 You know, if you beat someone over the head with a chair 15 times, they die.

02:43:08.000 They don't jump back up.

02:43:09.000 And look, a lot of adults think wrestling's real.

02:43:13.000 They think this stuff's real.

02:43:14.000 Thanks for the call.

02:43:15.000 Okay, thanks.

02:43:16.000 Comments to that analogy, Matthew?

02:43:18.000 Well, I think you can talk to people where they are.

02:43:21.000 And I think no matter where you are in the perspective of politics, whether you're libertarian, right-wing, Republican, left-wing, Democrat, wherever you identify, not many people in this country want corporations to run their lives.

02:43:33.000 And not many people in this country want the police to be able to come into their home when they're not there.

02:43:38.000 I mean, that's a huge violation of the Fourth Amendment.

02:43:40.000 And I think once we can address people where they are and find some points of agreement and then open their eyes to what this government is doing, we can start Building a movement here that will oppose any more of this retrenchment against our rights and maybe get some of these rights back.

02:43:55.000 That's what we need to do.

02:43:56.000 Well, here's another example.

02:43:57.000 Major polls in California.

02:43:59.000 Ninety-five percent, excuse me, ninety-four percent of Californians were against these satellite tracker boxes Schwarzenegger wants to put in the car to tax and trace.

02:44:07.000 But then, you talk to liberal academics, they're all for it.

02:44:12.000 So how do we, on a hundred different issues, have ninety-plus percent of people against it And it's common sense, but still the Republican and Democrat leadership is all for it.

02:44:22.000 Well, I think one of the big things we need to do to change this country is get full campaign financing so that the corporations and the wealthiest people in this country aren't buying Congress.

02:44:32.000 And that's what's been happening.

02:44:33.000 The lobbyists, you know, go in and cash in the investments.

02:44:36.000 And so you get the laws the lobbyists want, the corporate interests want, and you don't get the laws that the people need.

02:44:41.000 Well, you're an editor of a major, you know, established, almost hundred-year magazine, and you've been there for decades, so I want to get your take on this.

02:44:50.000 We're now learning that there's all these paid-for, White House paid-for fake reporters.

02:44:54.000 You know, the Armstrong Williams is the tip of the iceberg, as he said.

02:44:58.000 I've been talking about this for years.

02:44:59.000 It's massive.

02:45:00.000 We've got propaganda placement, not product, but propaganda placement where the government is paying for fake newscasts, 76 million of it, last year alone for the Medicare package.

02:45:10.000 I mean, I don't think people realize just how staged it is.

02:45:13.000 Your comments on that?

02:45:14.000 Well, that's a huge problem.

02:45:15.000 I mean, the mainstream media is just regurgitating some of this propaganda from the administration.

02:45:20.000 It is illegal propaganda.

02:45:21.000 The government is not supposed to have people on their staffs paid to indoctrinate the American people and not telling them where this indoctrination is coming from or that it's associated with the administration.

02:45:32.000 This is happening in one department after the next department.

02:45:35.000 of defense department of health and human services and you get a force feeding stuff dollar throat and then they're sending a little press releases or video press releases to networks or and uh...

02:45:45.000 local news stations around the country that are running them not identifying it as government propaganda now we're gonna have this pentagon channel where they're gonna spend their same hundreds of millions of dollars a year to produce high-quality news pieces that aren't even identified in their other about now are they're gonna offer that free People will save money using it, but they have to air it intact.

02:46:06.000 This is incredible!

02:46:07.000 Yeah, I mean, that's not what we pay taxes for.

02:46:10.000 That's not what our government is for.

02:46:11.000 Not to indoctrinate us.

02:46:13.000 It's supposed to enact laws that can, you know, help us out.

02:46:17.000 Well, our constitutional republic cannot survive this.

02:46:19.000 I would call it, I think there's a book along these lines, imperial hubris.

02:46:21.000 has total disdain for the people this Bush administration call Rove Dick Cheney administration they don't like democracy at all and they're taking away from us well our constitutional republic cannot survive this I would call it I think there's a book along these lines Imperial hubris I mean this is this is hubris definitely is hubris and it's it may get the better of them at some point I I mean, Bush is overreaching.

02:46:43.000 He's overreaching with Social Security.

02:46:44.000 He's overreached in Iraq.

02:46:46.000 He may overreach in Iran or Syria, North Korea.

02:46:48.000 And at some point... That's a good question.

02:46:51.000 That's a good question.

02:46:52.000 The Pentagon told him we would lose unless we had 400,000 troops.

02:46:55.000 They knew this, but they still just don't care, and the military is literally folding right now.

02:47:01.000 Well, the brass Tommy Franks rolled over for Rumsfeld.

02:47:03.000 Rumsfeld just beat him up and finally he said, okay, you know, we'll use 150,000 troops instead of 400,000 troops and look at the mess they made in Iraq. 0.98

02:47:10.000 But, I mean, that's delusional, what they call, magical thinking.

02:47:16.000 I mean, it seems like they've really gone off the deep end when their own tacticians and war game strategists tell them it isn't going to work and they just go do it.

02:47:23.000 Well, they were eating their own propaganda, Alex.

02:47:25.000 They started to believe their own stuff.

02:47:28.000 They believed the lies of the Iraqi National Congress that they were paying for.

02:47:33.000 They were paying this group, Ahmad Chalabi's group.

02:47:35.000 To feed lies to the American people, and then the administration itself started to believe that they'd be showered with flowers and candy, and the whole country of Iraq would embrace them forever. 0.52

02:47:44.000 I mean, no one who knows anything about Iraq would believe that.

02:47:48.000 Well, I mean, they told White to take a walk, Secretary of the Army, when he said it was impossible.

02:47:53.000 Well, that's the thing about this group.

02:47:54.000 They were broke.

02:47:55.000 Anyone who raises a question is out the door.

02:47:55.000 No dissent.

02:47:58.000 I mean, Colin Powell said he wanted to stay another year.

02:48:01.000 Forget it.

02:48:01.000 He's gone.

02:48:02.000 But the people there who created this problem, you know, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, and who were involved in this torture policy, especially Rumsfeld and Gonzalez, you know, they're around.

02:48:11.000 They're still there.

02:48:12.000 And Negroponte.

02:48:13.000 They're all shooting to the top.

02:48:14.000 Yeah, now Negro Posse gets, you know, this huge position and he's got blood on his hands. 1.00

02:48:21.000 Unbelievable.

02:48:21.000 Final segment coming up.

02:48:23.000 Anthony in New York and others, your calls are up next.

02:48:26.000 Talking to the editor of the Progressive Magazine.

02:48:30.000 Just blows my mind.

02:48:32.000 Folks, these people are taking us straight towards an iceberg.

02:48:36.000 They're just laughing and fiddling on the deck.

02:48:39.000 They love it.

02:48:40.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:57.000 Anthony in New York, go ahead.

02:51:58.000 Hey, how's it going, Alex?

02:52:00.000 Good, sir.

02:52:00.000 Alright, I just got out of military prison.

02:52:02.000 I was stationed at Fort Drum, New York, and I got sent to Afghanistan, and I was there for a couple months, and I got a Red Cross message that my mom had cancer.

02:52:12.000 So I came back on leave, And they gave me like 30 days of leave, and she was on hospice, like where they come to take care of you at home or whatever.

02:52:20.000 And my leave wasn't up, and she was still alive, and I was the only one to take care of her, so I called back to try to get an extension on my leave, and they told me no, that I needed to come back, and so I stayed with her until she died, and my stepdad got sick, and I stayed with him until he died too, which was like, it was a total of 5 months that I was gone, and I got sentenced to 5 months in military prison.

02:52:43.000 And I'd say like plastered me all over the newspapers around my town like... 0.93

02:52:47.000 Made me look like a real scum. 0.99

02:52:49.000 They said I was a deserter. 0.99

02:52:51.000 Which I never deserted.

02:52:53.000 I was in prison with guys that had been absent without leave like seven years.

02:52:57.000 And got lesser sentences.

02:52:58.000 Well, they just selectively enforce all of that.

02:53:02.000 I mean, we've talked to troops who are in Iraq.

02:53:04.000 It's been in the news where they have to pay for their own food.

02:53:06.000 When their arms and legs get blown off, they discharge them in Rammstein.

02:53:10.000 Make them pay to fly home.

02:53:12.000 Have you heard about that? 0.97

02:53:13.000 Yes, and it's ridiculous. 1.00

02:53:14.000 Ridiculous. 0.94

02:53:16.000 They try to paint this picture that when you join the military they'll take care of you no matter what happens and it's definitely not true at all.

02:53:23.000 Alright, well thank you for the call.

02:53:25.000 Sorry to hear that happen.

02:53:26.000 And now I guess you can't own a gun or anything.

02:53:28.000 You're dishonorably discharged I guess.

02:53:31.000 Comments to what he was saying, Matthew?

02:53:33.000 Well, the treatment of our troops.

02:53:35.000 Generally, it's just deplorable and the health care they get when they come back is deplorable.

02:53:40.000 And also, the unpopularity of this Iraq War wasn't true of Anthony, but it's true of a lot of soldiers.

02:53:45.000 According to the Pentagon itself, there are 5,500 deserters.

02:53:48.000 U.S.

02:53:49.000 soldiers who refuse to go back and report for duty.

02:53:52.000 That shows you what it's like to be over there.

02:53:55.000 Let's talk to Jim in New York.

02:53:56.000 Jim, go ahead.

02:53:58.000 Good afternoon.

02:53:59.000 What I want to say quickly, I tuned in and it was Mike, what's his name, the guest?

02:54:04.000 Rothschild.

02:54:05.000 Rothschild.

02:54:05.000 Mr. Rothschild was talking about, and you, about skull and bones.

02:54:09.000 And I feel it's very important, as I think you probably do, I've heard you talk before, and the reason for this is that these people, People wonder how it is that they can control so much and so many people, and the reason being is that a lot of these people, to my knowledge, and I've been reading this for 25 years, Uh, along with the Secret Societies, etc.

02:54:32.000 A lot of them do not know what's going on at the bottom.

02:54:34.000 You know, they just do what they're told because that's the way it's set up.

02:54:37.000 And therefore, you can command the whole army of people.

02:54:40.000 Well, I mean, look, the Lacoste and Nostra, the Italian Mafia, is a secret society.

02:54:44.000 Correct.

02:54:45.000 Intelligence agencies are secret societies.

02:54:47.000 Right.

02:54:47.000 A secret society was just an intelligence agency 200 years ago, and then we're supposed to deny they even exist.

02:54:55.000 Anything to say to that, uh, Matthew?

02:54:57.000 Well, you know, I don't think the skull and bones is anywhere near the power or the influence in this country.

02:55:03.000 It's important even to think about it as the Cosa Nostra, as the mob, or as an intelligence agency.

02:55:08.000 It's a little weird.

02:55:10.000 You know, I wouldn't disagree on that, but I just don't think it has anything to do with really what's happening in this country.

02:55:16.000 And if there weren't any skull and bones, we'd still have the exact same problems that we're having today.

02:55:21.000 Well, that may be so, but it happens to be at this time that that's the name they choose to call themselves.

02:55:25.000 You can call them whatever you want, but you must admit that you mentioned Cheney, Clinton, Bush, that these people all work in conjunction with each other, and they have a name.

02:55:35.000 That's all.

02:55:36.000 That's the only thing we're trying to say.

02:55:37.000 They have a name.

02:55:38.000 Not that at a given time in history it may be called something else.

02:55:42.000 They're not following the orders of the Skull and Bones Society.

02:55:45.000 That's not what they do.

02:55:45.000 Well, I'll have you up for a debate about that sometimes.

02:55:48.000 We're saying Skull and Bones is part of this tapestry.

02:55:51.000 of this elite.

02:55:52.000 We have an elite, don't we, Mr. Rothschild?

02:55:54.000 We certainly do, and it's a corporate elite.

02:55:56.000 It's the corporations and the top 1% of Americans that are running this country.

02:56:01.000 It's not the American people, but it's not skull and bones either.

02:56:03.000 See, I'd say one-tenth of 1%.

02:56:05.000 We can cut it that then.

02:56:08.000 Yeah, give folks the website for your magazine.

02:56:11.000 Thanks very much.

02:56:11.000 It's progressive.org.

02:56:14.000 Alright, interesting talking to you, and take care.

02:56:17.000 You too, bye bye.

02:56:18.000 Alright folks, we're out of time back tonight, 9 to midnight central.

02:56:22.000 Interesting having somebody on named Rothschild, I figured that'd make the listeners go crazy.

02:56:26.000 But definitely a different view than what you normally get from the Rothschilds.

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