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00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:40.000 It is already Thursday, the 24th day of February 2005.

00:00:46.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:49.000 Coming up in the second hour, we're going to be talking to the group that's there trying to save Terry Schiavo Schindler's wife, they've now ordered her feeding tube removed.

00:01:02.000 And the last time they did this, she survived for what, eight, nine days before an emergency law was passed by the state of Florida.

00:01:13.000 And now this court ruling has supposedly overturned that.

00:01:19.000 But in matters of state rights, the 10th Amendment is still in force, and I think these federal court rulings are null and void.

00:01:27.000 But that's up for debate.

00:01:30.000 The Founding Fathers would agree with me, but, well, we're now dealing with a modern America.

00:01:35.000 Speaking of Florida, Florida boy accused of assault with a rubber band, 13-year-old suspended for 10 days after confrontation with teacher, And they're discussing charging him with assault because the rubber band landed on the desk.

00:01:53.000 Now, certainly a lot of us would be in prison if shooting rubber bands in class was considered assault.

00:02:02.000 And what he does need is to run around the football field 10 or 15 times until he's puking his guts up.

00:02:10.000 and he won't shoot the rubber bands anymore in class but instead we'll just uh... get him into probation so he can meet a lot of criminals and then he'll probably end up with tattoos all over his body uh... in a federal prison someday building widgets for fifteen cents an hour taking all of our jobs but hey that's what the schools are designed to do get you into prison or get you on to Ritalin or Prozac or get you uh... on to welfare it's all about

00:02:40.000 Institutionalizing the entire society.

00:02:44.000 Interesting little blurb or slip up in the Toronto Star.

00:02:49.000 Headline, U.S.

00:02:50.000 perplexed by Canadians on missile defense.

00:02:55.000 And they've got the U.S.

00:02:58.000 Envoy here saying, we don't get it.

00:03:02.000 And the Envoy says, Well, I mean, it was a Canadian general in command of NORAD on 9-11, that's not really entirely true, who launched the F-16s to, under Bush's orders, to shoot down Flight 93.

00:03:19.000 So, why don't they want to have our missile defense?

00:03:23.000 But just, we've had Rumsfeld twice say that they shot 93 down.

00:03:29.000 We've had Rumsfeld once say a missile hit the Pentagon.

00:03:33.000 I've seen multiple officials on TV, and I don't watch much TV over the years, slip up and say, and it's been picked up in the news, that the government knew that a missile, or missiles, hit TWA Flight 800.

00:03:46.000 So over and over again they say this and we're just supposed to ignore it.

00:03:50.000 It's like when Larry Silverstein got up on PBS and said, we pulled the building.

00:03:57.000 We pulled Building 7.

00:04:00.000 And he says that, And then we're all just supposed to glaze over it.

00:04:06.000 Oh yeah, we gave the order and then watched the building come down.

00:04:08.000 He didn't go, oops, excuse me, that was a misstatement.

00:04:10.000 No, that's what he said.

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00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:08:23.000 The U.S.

00:08:25.000 perplexed over Canadians' refusal to accept their missile defense system, that is, going under their control.

00:08:35.000 And this is out of the Toronto Star today.

00:08:38.000 Listen to this and listen carefully.

00:08:41.000 Canada's apparent decision to stay out of the North American Missile Defense System has dumbfounded Americans as an unnecessary giveaway of sovereignty.

00:08:51.000 Look at the doublespeak there.

00:08:53.000 Washington's envoy in Ottawa said today, we don't get it, said Paul Cellucci, the U.S.

00:09:02.000 envoy to Canada.

00:09:05.000 Now, it goes on for a page and a half, Talking about NORAD and talking about the missile defense system and how Canada helps command NORAD from NORAD's base in Colorado.

00:09:18.000 And then, Salucci says this, quote, Salucci compared the situation To the one that occurred during the 9-1-1 terrorist attacks on the U.S.

00:09:29.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

00:09:37.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

00:09:44.000 Now read that again.

00:09:47.000 Salucci, the head U.S.

00:09:48.000 envoy, compared the situation to the one that occurred during 9-1-1 terror attacks on the U.S.

00:09:54.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

00:10:02.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

00:10:10.000 Now, Rumsfeld twice in press conferences has said they shot Flight 93 down.

00:10:18.000 Rumsfeld has said in another press conference that a missile hit the Pentagon.

00:10:24.000 But, with the case of Flight 93, we have the state police saying jets were chasing it, there was an explosion up high in the air, the debris field was over 8 miles.

00:10:35.000 Now when you drive a plane down to the ground, the debris field might be a half a mile.

00:10:42.000 The plane supposedly impacted, whole, in one piece, Into that Pennsylvania farmland.

00:10:52.000 You're not going to have an engine eight miles away, and you're not going to have seats five miles away from that black mark that was in that field.

00:11:04.000 It's just that simple.

00:11:06.000 And then from our sources, and that matches with what the state police and the police and hundreds of other witnesses that they saw, it was shot down.

00:11:16.000 And then from our internal sources we learned that Cheney was ordering a stand down.

00:11:23.000 Everybody knows Bush was Bush was reading a little goat story.

00:11:27.000 He didn't order any shoot down.

00:11:28.000 That it was Cheney.

00:11:29.000 And that Cheney didn't order a shoot down and said the orders still stand.

00:11:33.000 We're not going to shoot that plane down.

00:11:36.000 And that a general took matters into his own hands when the pilots are there with missiles locked and it's going to the Capitol and said take it out.

00:11:45.000 Now, up until three months before that, the generals have the shoot-down orders in their control.

00:11:55.000 Have the shoot-down orders in their hands.

00:11:58.000 They were allowed to shoot planes down.

00:12:00.000 Three months before, Donald Rumsfeld signed the document ordering the Pentagon, that they no longer have the authority, to shoot planes down.

00:12:14.000 So, we've got to rely on the President, you know, whether he's off in China on a visit, or Russia, or Mexico, wherever.

00:12:20.000 You know, four in the morning, we've got to first get him up, and then he's got to get up and go to a situation computer and be advised of what's happening.

00:12:27.000 No, in the past they didn't do that.

00:12:29.000 If a plane's in danger, whether it's depressurized and everybody's dead on board and it's going to fly into a major city, shoot it down. 0.96

00:12:36.000 Or if it's hijacked and they're screaming, Allah Akbar, we're going to kill you, you go ahead and you shoot it down. 0.95

00:12:42.000 That's always been the policy. 0.96

00:12:45.000 But no, they changed that three months before 9-11.

00:12:50.000 And the Pentagon, that order is public.

00:12:53.000 That order is on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:12:56.000 In fact, I'm telling my producer at the radio show to call my webmaster, you call her and tell her, just type into the website, shoot down order found, not shoot down order found, NORAD STAND-DOWN ORDER FOUND!

00:13:14.000 And then it'll link through.

00:13:16.000 You'll find a link.

00:13:17.000 I'm telling this to the listeners too, all at the same time.

00:13:20.000 We'll find that story.

00:13:21.000 Or she can call Paul Watson.

00:13:23.000 My wife can't find it. 1.00

00:13:25.000 And post this with this Toronto Star article.

00:13:30.000 We need these two together.

00:13:31.000 Kind of make a data page on this for folks.

00:13:35.000 We'll just put it in our format and put comments and hyperlinks in it so people can Here I am directing the website from the air.

00:13:43.000 That's how busy I am, folks, on air doing it.

00:13:48.000 But this is the reality of what we're facing.

00:13:52.000 And so, they just keep slipping up.

00:13:54.000 You know, we don't know why Canadians don't want to be part of this new missile defense system.

00:13:59.000 I mean, why?

00:14:00.000 They like having power, don't they?

00:14:01.000 And having control over our military.

00:14:04.000 I mean, it was a Canadian general who launched the F-16s Go intercept Flight 93 to shoot it down on its way to D.C.

00:14:16.000 And the 9-11 Whitewash Commission does admit, at least, that that plane was going to the Capitol or the White House.

00:14:24.000 Think of the power and control the Globalists would have gotten if that plane wouldn't have been shot down. 0.98

00:14:30.000 But then though, then so they could cover up the chain of events, how the plane was shot down,

00:14:36.000 what happened with the shoot down of the plane so it wouldn't track back to the vice president saying don't shoot it down in a general disregarding orders they just concocted the story of let's roll Mr. Beamer let's roll and then they went after the terrorist and drove the plane into the ground doesn't matter if all the police saw F-16s chasing it and the big explosion and

00:15:06.000 Doesn't matter if public officials keep slipping up and saying that it was shot down, we're just going to ignore that.

00:15:13.000 But here's the article out of the Toronto Star.

00:15:18.000 Right now, up on Infowars.com and presentplanet.com, Washington had hoped Canada would go further and participate in building the Continental Defense Shield, an elaborate system that some would worry could lead to weapons in space and an international arms race.

00:15:36.000 And it says, uh, Salucci compared the situation of the one that occurred on 9-1-1 where terrorist attacks on the U.S.

00:15:44.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

00:15:50.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

00:15:58.000 Really, President?

00:15:59.000 I mean, this is two things.

00:16:01.000 Now President Bush ordered this.

00:16:05.000 Now that's just not true.

00:16:08.000 For once, this is something they're telling the truth on.

00:16:11.000 Bush was in a public venue, up on a podium, so we could all tune in.

00:16:16.000 We knew about it before he did, and see how the leader responded.

00:16:20.000 We were all waiting on the leader.

00:16:21.000 What is he going to do?

00:16:22.000 He doesn't know.

00:16:24.000 You know, building the momentum, building the suspense.

00:16:28.000 Jerry Bruckheimer all over it, folks.

00:16:31.000 You know, Jerry Bruckheimer admittedly wrote the script for Saving Private Lynch, which she later admitted was a total fable, for days before the innocent Iraqis. 0.91

00:16:38.000 We have her, we're helping her.

00:16:40.000 The Republican Guard pulled out days ago.

00:16:42.000 Okay, we're coming soon.

00:16:44.000 Delta Force all gets advised how to hold the cameras, how to shoot it.

00:16:48.000 The script is written by Bruckheimer.

00:16:50.000 Well, the same thing with 9-11.

00:16:52.000 I mean, it just has Hollywood written all over it.

00:16:55.000 Just everything crafted.

00:16:56.000 You know, one tower gets hit, all cameras aim at it.

00:17:00.000 Then a few minutes later, another one.

00:17:01.000 Well, when everybody's tuned in, another one hits.

00:17:03.000 And then they start blowing up and collapsing, and then... It's just Hollywood!

00:17:11.000 Yes, men in a cave did it all.

00:17:15.000 Made NOLARAD stand down.

00:17:16.000 Made CIA put options.

00:17:19.000 Insider trading.

00:17:22.000 It's amazing.

00:17:24.000 It's absolutely incredible.

00:17:27.000 And, here they are again.

00:17:32.000 They can't even get their story straight.

00:17:33.000 I mean, this is the Envoy to Canada.

00:17:35.000 Up there trying to sell them on going under this grid.

00:17:41.000 And Canada being part of it.

00:17:43.000 And they say, well, you were part of 9-11?

00:17:44.000 I mean, you're part of NORAD?

00:17:47.000 Why don't you go along?

00:17:49.000 Cellucci compared the situation to one that occurred during the 9-1-1 terrorist attacks on the U.S.

00:17:54.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

00:18:00.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

00:18:07.000 Now, to shoot it down?

00:18:14.000 What do you mean to shoot it down?

00:18:16.000 What do you mean President Bush ordered it?

00:18:18.000 You mean Dick Cheney ordered them to do nothing and a general did his duty and blew it out of the air and stopped you guys from getting total martial law.

00:18:30.000 Can you imagine the Capitol in ruins with a big old passenger jet smacking right into the face of it?

00:18:38.000 Can you imagine That giant cruise missile following its GPS coordinates, flying that big ol' cruise missile, that big ol' passenger jet turned into a cruise missile, right into the front of the rotunda of the Capitol, right into the dome, shattering it.

00:18:57.000 That image destroyed.

00:18:58.000 That's why Jeb already had martial law declared two days before in Florida.

00:19:05.000 They thought it was going to be just going all the way, but it was limited.

00:19:10.000 They didn't get the full scope of what they planned.

00:19:14.000 And a lot of that's because one of the planes got delayed on the ground at the airport.

00:19:20.000 He didn't do a perfect job.

00:19:21.000 It was masterful.

00:19:23.000 As you call it, quite a work of art.

00:19:28.000 But it killed a lot of people. 0.98

00:19:30.000 And now you're trying to kill America.

00:19:32.000 9-11 is a stake you're trying to drive in to the brain of this country. 0.98

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00:24:11.000 All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:24:28.000 Your calls are coming up.

00:24:33.000 What do you think about the U.S.

00:24:35.000 Envoy to Canada, Paul Cellucci, telling them, yeah, well, it was the Canadian General who launched the F-16s to go shoot down the Flight 93 going to D.C.

00:24:44.000 and Bush gave the order.

00:24:47.000 They publicly say Bush never gave an order to shoot down an aircraft, which in truth, is the truth. 0.96

00:24:53.000 Oh, no, they'd never do that.

00:24:56.000 But still, that contradicts their official story, and then it also contradicts their official story of these jets scrambled to go shoot that plane down.

00:25:06.000 Very, very interesting.

00:25:08.000 But it's nothing compared to Rumsfeld, the two times he said they shot 93 down.

00:25:12.000 Oh, we shot 93 down!

00:25:14.000 He never goes back and says, oh, I made a mistake.

00:25:16.000 He just keeps talking.

00:25:18.000 And the press just all sits there and ignores it.

00:25:21.000 Speaking of the devil, I got a call from NPR yesterday, and they're going to interview me today.

00:25:27.000 I don't know if it's going to be on today or tomorrow.

00:25:29.000 It's going to be edited by one of their big national shows, and I'm going to be basically debating, but not all at the same time, with that Migas character over at Popular Mechanics, who put together this sloppily done debunking.

00:25:47.000 You know, I mean, I can say I debunk that the sun comes up in the morning.

00:25:52.000 But it doesn't mean I debunked it.

00:25:56.000 They do this so much, they build up these strong men.

00:25:58.000 It's like the case of the CNN executive going, yeah, they're killing our reporters.

00:26:04.000 The Pentagon is.

00:26:06.000 And then they go, where's your proof?

00:26:09.000 And then he resigns when it's all over the BBC and Reuters and the Associated Press.

00:26:09.000 Where's your proof?

00:26:14.000 We have a huge section on Infowars.com right now where they admittedly, the troops admittedly and the Pentagon admittedly kills journalists.

00:26:23.000 They said they would on the eve of the war! 0.99

00:26:25.000 We have the Pentagon statements!

00:26:27.000 But it doesn't matter!

00:26:28.000 The news just builds a straw man, says it isn't true, and then it's, quote, discredited in everyone's mind!

00:26:36.000 They do this over and over again, and they told me I'll have about six minutes on NPR out of like a twenty minute interview.

00:26:43.000 So if I don't have total focus and just say sound bites for six Well, actually it'll be for 20 minutes.

00:26:51.000 I have to basically repeat myself for 20 minutes so that there's no way that they can pull a scam on me.

00:26:59.000 And then I'll just end up being probably a minute of the interview.

00:27:01.000 I mean, if I'm able to totally control myself and only say things that they can't take out of context, will I be okay?

00:27:12.000 And it's stressful.

00:27:14.000 It's tiring.

00:27:15.000 They don't play on a fair playing field.

00:27:18.000 In fact, that's it.

00:27:19.000 I already told my producers, and I know they called, I want... Meejus, or Maygus, or whatever his name is, I want him on here.

00:27:29.000 And I'll give that... that... creature, who says we ought to all be ashamed of ourselves, besmirching the memory of those that died on 9-11, and their families, for what we've said and done, I want him on!

00:27:44.000 I want him on this broadcast!

00:27:47.000 I want him on here and I want him on now.

00:27:50.000 And I want that punk on for an hour, two hours.

00:27:53.000 He can have three hours.

00:27:55.000 I can debunk everything he's saying.

00:27:58.000 But I bet you, I'm not a betting man, but odds are he'll refuse.

00:28:04.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:05.000 Maybe he'll come on.

00:28:08.000 He better do it! 1.00

00:28:09.000 I gave his stupid magazine an interview, and you know what? 1.00

00:28:12.000 I hate promoting it, too. 1.00

00:28:14.000 It's a total waste of your time.

00:28:15.000 But you know what?

00:28:16.000 The Warren Commission, all these whitewashing exercises, they all fail.

00:28:22.000 Oh, the Warren Commission told us it was a conspiracy theory that there were more than one shooter.

00:28:29.000 Now in major polls, 80% of Americans believe the government killed Kennedy.

00:28:34.000 Up from 80% just a few years ago.

00:28:38.000 So you can run, but you can't hide.

00:28:41.000 And you can build strongmen all day, all night.

00:28:46.000 You can build them over and over again and knock them down.

00:28:50.000 All that happens is people go find the real evidence and find out that you didn't knock down the real evidence because you can't knock it down and you'll never knock it down.

00:28:59.000 There's so much evidence it'd be like trying to knock down the biggest forest on earth with a hatchet.

00:29:08.000 Oh, you can go to some little rotten, rotten, rotten tree about two feet tall and cut it down.

00:29:14.000 It's a tree you planted.

00:29:17.000 But you can't cut down our forest of big, gigantic redwoods.

00:29:23.000 Fifty feet around in diameter.

00:29:26.000 You woodpecker.

00:29:29.000 Yeah, I'd be like a woodpecker trying to cut down an entire old-growth forest.

00:29:33.000 Just keep pecking away!

00:29:34.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:29:36.000 We can see the desperateness in your columns, the articles you write in the Washington Post and everywhere else.

00:29:42.000 They're taking over.

00:29:43.000 There's armies of them.

00:29:44.000 Everyone's believing them.

00:29:45.000 That's right, because we got the facts.

00:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:25.000 just briefly explain this again for those who don't understand. - Bye.

00:33:31.000 Rumsfeld, on June 1st of 2001, signed a memorandum and said that he was directed by the President and Vice President of the United States to order the Pentagon, NORAD, the military,

00:33:51.000 To tell them that they no longer had the authority to shoot down hijacked jets or planes that were going to be flown into buildings as weapons.

00:34:02.000 Or to shoot down errant aircraft where they depressurized and all aboard were dead.

00:34:07.000 If the plane was going towards a city, they weren't allowed to shoot it down anymore.

00:34:10.000 Since NORAD was set up in 57, they have that power to do that, and drilled routinely to do it.

00:34:17.000 And if you're Cessna or Boeing 747, Or your Piper got off course, they would launch F-16s or F-18s or F-14s, normally F-16s are the Continental Interceptors, surround your aircraft and force you down at the nearest airport or military base if you'd gotten off course or come into their airspace, or they would shoot you down!

00:34:41.000 Now that's policy!

00:34:44.000 And Rumsfeld signed the order ordering the military that they no longer have the authority to shoot down aircraft.

00:34:52.000 Now, that's one area.

00:34:54.000 Then on 9-11, Dick Cheney was in command from the bunker onto the White House.

00:35:00.000 Later in the day, he then went to Site R in Maryland on the Maryland-Virginia border.

00:35:07.000 And he was there in control of NORAD and would not allow the shoot-downs.

00:35:12.000 Then we get this article today out of the Toronto Star Or Paul Salucci, the head U.S.

00:35:22.000 envoy to Canada, and to their government, trying to get them to come underneath this new missile defense plan, and he says, hey, you're already part of NORAD!

00:35:35.000 Salucci compared the situation to one that occurred during the 9-11 terrorist attacks on the U.S.

00:35:39.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORMAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

00:35:44.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

00:35:53.000 Now, did you shoot Flight 93 down or didn't you?

00:35:56.000 You know, that's one thing Popular Mechanics attacked us about.

00:36:02.000 We comment on Rumsfeld saying twice they shot it down.

00:36:06.000 We comment on Rumsfeld signing the order where the military couldn't shoot it down.

00:36:11.000 We comment on the state police saying they saw it get shot down.

00:36:16.000 And we say, from our sources, it was shot down.

00:36:19.000 And we're called conspiracy theorists.

00:36:22.000 I mean, I'm really trying to understand this.

00:36:25.000 AP reporters were told to get back from the Building 7, because it was going to be brought down.

00:36:35.000 Now that's on the record.

00:36:37.000 And then Larry Silverstein gets up on TV and says, we gave the order to pull the building, gave the order and watched Building 7 come down.

00:36:45.000 Now you look at the video on top of it, it's the classical demolition with the central column, or the crimp, being blown out so it falls in on itself and not outwards, damaging buildings literally 15 to 40 feet away.

00:36:57.000 Right up next to it, or damaged, to any extent.

00:37:01.000 A few windows got knocked out.

00:37:03.000 A 47-story building falls right next to you, nothing happens.

00:37:05.000 But buildings way down the block fall and cause 7 to fall.

00:37:08.000 It's not true.

00:37:10.000 All we're doing is pointing out reality.

00:37:12.000 But in that hit piece, for Popular Mechanics, they wouldn't... I'd like to talk about Silverstein.

00:37:17.000 I'd like to talk about this AP article.

00:37:19.000 No, we're not going there.

00:37:20.000 We just want to know, did you see the bombs in the building?

00:37:23.000 No, I wasn't there.

00:37:24.000 I didn't see the bombs in the building.

00:37:26.000 Silverstein says he blew it up.

00:37:27.000 Well, we're not going there.

00:37:29.000 Well, what about this article over here about seismographs saying that there were clear explosions?

00:37:36.000 We called the seismologist and they say they were never interviewed by you.

00:37:41.000 And I go, excuse me, and I go, hold on for a minute.

00:37:44.000 I go online and I go, the article you're talking about was written by American Free Press.

00:37:52.000 And they go, oh.

00:37:54.000 Yeah, that's another newspaper.

00:37:55.000 You know, there's a link.

00:37:56.000 It says the author and a hyperlink to the story.

00:38:00.000 You know how websites and newspapers carry other people's stuff?

00:38:03.000 I go, did you call them and ask if they were interviewed by this guy?

00:38:06.000 Uh, no.

00:38:08.000 No, we didn't.

00:38:10.000 Then the magazine comes out.

00:38:14.000 They did something else.

00:38:15.000 See, they didn't do that because I exposed them.

00:38:17.000 So they weaseled over and found somebody who'd written an article for my site and a bunch of other sites who mentioned the American Free Press article.

00:38:24.000 Clearly mentions that's where he got it, and they call the seismologist and say, did you talk to this guy?

00:38:30.000 Oh no, we didn't talk to the guy who's... You see how they do that?

00:38:35.000 Man!

00:38:38.000 Oh boy, I mean I'm sick of it.

00:38:40.000 I'm really sick of it.

00:38:43.000 But again, they're gonna lose.

00:38:45.000 It's not gonna work.

00:38:46.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:38:47.000 You can try to discredit till the cows come home.

00:38:50.000 It's because of stuff like this, this is why This is why you're losing your subscriptions.

00:38:57.000 This is why all of you are falling apart.

00:38:59.000 It's why the TV crowd admits they've lost upwards of 45% of their audience in the last 5-6 years.

00:39:09.000 People just aren't watching you anymore.

00:39:11.000 They aren't listening to you anymore.

00:39:13.000 We're sick of it!

00:39:18.000 Let's talk to Eleanor in Canada. 0.74

00:39:20.000 Eleanor, welcome to the Airwaves. 0.90

00:39:22.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

00:39:24.000 I was originally calling in with some very important information, life-saving information about Terri Schiavo.

00:39:30.000 May I speak about that?

00:39:32.000 Yes, we have Terri Schiavo's folks representing her coming on next hour.

00:39:37.000 Yes, I've been in touch with them by email as well, but many people don't seem to understand that these judicial orders are only to have the feeding tube removed.

00:39:51.000 The judge never has ordered, and never will order, never can order, that feeding be stopped, because that is a clear contravention of both federal and Florida law.

00:40:02.000 Well, they won't let them, they won't let them, for years, feed her.

00:40:05.000 She was eaten jello ten years ago.

00:40:07.000 Alex, Alex, what I'm saying is that is contrary to the law, and that's not included in the order the judge handed down.

00:40:13.000 Well, let me be specific with you.

00:40:15.000 If they take the feeding tube away, she will die.

00:40:17.000 No, she can, she can, she has to be fed.

00:40:21.000 Well, ma'am, I've had her father and mother on, I've had her lawyers on, I've had the groups there and for ten years they can't brush her teeth, they're not allowed to give her food, she can eat food. 1.00

00:40:33.000 Alex, what I'm telling you is all that is felonious and... Well, of course it's felonious!

00:40:37.000 I mean, coast to coast they're killing people audibly begging for food, it's in the Wall Street Journal!

00:40:41.000 What I'm pleading you and the listeners to understand is that the reason they're getting away with it Is that people don't read the actual order from the judge.

00:40:50.000 The judge's order contains nothing about withholding... There's a previous order that they're not allowed, well...

00:40:57.000 The guardian is Michael Cockroach Schiavo, and he will not let them give her food.

00:41:04.000 There are armed guards in there when the parents go in.

00:41:06.000 Yes, but no one has the authority to withhold food in Florida, and there's a federal law called the Americans with Disabilities Act that explicitly prohibits that.

00:41:15.000 I know, and they've argued that before the courts.

00:41:17.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

00:41:20.000 They're killing her, okay? 0.99

00:41:22.000 They're killing her. 0.99

00:41:23.000 And we're trying to stop it.

00:41:24.000 Joni in Florida, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:41:26.000 Hi Alex, I have a couple things.

00:41:28.000 One real quick thing on East End this morning.

00:41:32.000 They read just a snippet of a piece out of the Washington Post to do with some new orders coming out of the Pentagon.

00:41:41.000 And I didn't take a whole lot of notes on it, but I think you ought to have a couple of your people research it out.

00:41:48.000 Okay, what is it?

00:41:51.000 Something to do with the Pentagon and an executive order about leaving our military people, go into countries.

00:41:57.000 In other words, it's not where we've declared any action, but, like, subversive, I guess, type stuff.

00:42:05.000 You'll have to check it out.

00:42:06.000 But the other reason I called you was, last night I watched CNN, or CNN, and they had a segment of the program saying that mother's milk It's now being contaminated.

00:42:19.000 Jet fuel!

00:42:21.000 Well, with a chemical from rocket fuel.

00:42:26.000 That's the way I got it.

00:42:28.000 Rocket fuel.

00:42:31.000 And it showed the state.

00:42:33.000 Texas, Florida, I think California.

00:42:36.000 It wasn't the heartland.

00:42:39.000 It was sort of the border of our country.

00:42:43.000 And when the babies drink it, It's causing damage to the brain, retardation and so forth and so on. 1.00

00:42:50.000 So we better not let mothers breastfeed anymore. 1.00

00:42:53.000 Exactly.

00:42:53.000 We better have them drink the soil that ends up with their brains being about 8% smaller.

00:43:03.000 The brain needs fat to develop and it's just more fear mongering.

00:43:08.000 People should just eat more organic and Uh, not eat a lot of the, uh, processed garbage.

00:43:12.000 Well, they claimed, they claimed that the, the, they, it was, they were getting contaminated because of the water they were drinking.

00:43:19.000 This chemical has gotten into the water supply.

00:43:21.000 Well, it is!

00:43:21.000 I mean, anybody that drinks tap water is completely insane.

00:43:24.000 And then, from the vegetables, and I understand from talking to a friend of mine a few months ago, they said that in Belle Glade, Florida, uh, the lettuce and some of the other Our products were contaminated.

00:43:39.000 Well, there's always been toxins in our environment just from volcanoes and other things like that.

00:43:45.000 I mean, our bodies are designed to take a certain amount of it.

00:43:47.000 That's why we need to limit it as much as possible.

00:43:50.000 And 70% of our intake of these poisons is through water.

00:43:53.000 And that's why if you cut out the tap water, you've really helped yourself and your family.

00:43:59.000 That's why I promote high-quality, made-in-America water purifiers.

00:44:05.000 Well, it was interesting though, Alex, I followed through and I called my county, EPA, and the girl said to me, her question was, how did they segregate out the one chemical?

00:44:19.000 You know, if it wasn't just rocket fuel, how did the one chemical get segmented out?

00:44:25.000 I hear you.

00:44:26.000 I appreciate it.

00:44:26.000 Thanks for the call, Joan.

00:44:28.000 Up next is Bobby in North Carolina.

00:44:31.000 Go ahead.

00:44:32.000 I got a couple things.

00:44:33.000 One I want to tell you first, I really appreciate what you're doing.

00:44:36.000 You're really a hero in America here and I really appreciate what you're doing for our country.

00:44:41.000 I got two other things.

00:44:42.000 One is, one side note, I got a question about brushes.

00:44:44.000 Second, the first one I got here is a couple months ago you were supposed to come on a local radio station in Raleigh and we promoted real high for them to treat you with respect because a lot of times they clown some of the people like yourself and they said that you were sick and that you couldn't make it.

00:45:01.000 I wanted to know was that true?

00:45:03.000 Could you not make it or was it something where it was a clear channel radio station or was it that they didn't allow you to come on?

00:45:09.000 No, I remember that.

00:45:11.000 I canceled very few interviews and I had real bad allergies.

00:45:16.000 I think it was real early in the morning.

00:45:19.000 My wife was saying, get up, go do the... In fact, I think I took off on the radio that day, this broadcast.

00:45:24.000 Yeah, you did, actually.

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:26.000 Now, do you plan on going back on that station?

00:45:28.000 We would love to hear you here in Raleigh.

00:45:30.000 They want to have me back on.

00:45:31.000 I mean, but you can call and tell them if you were listening that day.

00:45:33.000 You can vouch that I wasn't on my own broadcast.

00:45:35.000 Yeah.

00:45:36.000 I remember that.

00:45:38.000 My wife's like, get up, get up, get up, and I'm like, I'm sick, I'm not getting up. 0.99

00:45:43.000 Okay, the second thing I had about Bush is, could you elaborate a little bit on the Brownsville?

00:45:48.000 Back in 1984, Bush with the Satanic cult, the ritual, where supposedly everybody was killed except for Bush, and he was supposedly disappeared for three days.

00:45:58.000 That was back in 1984, the city was right on the border of Mexico, and supposedly his father bailed him out of that.

00:46:03.000 Can you elaborate any on that?

00:46:05.000 Well, I've heard that, and it was in Texas Monthly, not mentioning Bush, but the massive satanic murders.

00:46:15.000 I mean, they've dug up hundreds of bodies on the Texas border.

00:46:19.000 and it's it's a bit but i mean it's the entire texas border with mexico there's just satanic cults.

00:46:25.000 Folks, this isn't a joke.

00:46:26.000 We're talking Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, Texas Monthly uh... they grab people's children when you go visiting over the border they grab families, they grab uh... it's just horrible and i had heard somehow that uh...

00:46:42.000 Strangely enough, the Junior was somehow involved, and it fits in with Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove and the rest of it.

00:46:48.000 You know, it's like yesterday in Italy, they sentenced two Satanists who admittedly engaged in a bunch of ritual murders to life in prison, and it was a popular heavy metal rock band.

00:46:59.000 I mean, this stuff's real, but you talk about it, people laugh at you.

00:47:02.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 That's all I have.

00:47:04.000 Appreciate it, Al.

00:47:05.000 Alright, I appreciate your call, Bobby.

00:47:08.000 Yeah, that's...

00:47:10.000 I don't have details of the specifics with Bush.

00:47:14.000 That's the problem with all this.

00:47:15.000 It's so wild.

00:47:17.000 It's so weird that it just boggles the mind.

00:47:28.000 If I was you, I wouldn't get anywhere near certain areas on that Texas border.

00:47:35.000 Down by Big Bend, the Boquias Pass, And just a bunch of those towns, I mean it is, it is bad news.

00:47:46.000 Strangely enough, I have, truth is stranger than fiction, my parents liked to go to Big Bend a lot when I was small.

00:47:54.000 We'd rent an RV, go with another family down there, and we'd ride the little rowboats across to the Mexico border, and go into those little towns, and I mean people were on donkeys, dirt floor shops, I mean, it was like something out of the 1800s.

00:48:14.000 And that's the very area that it came out years later where it was just organized mass devil worship.

00:48:22.000 And terrorists, young men, young women, families, they get you and they torture you to death and cut your heart out and hundreds of people.

00:48:34.000 But Satanism doesn't exist and we should all just love our government. 0.93

00:48:40.000 But Mexico is just rampant with Satanism.

00:48:46.000 Just absolutely, absolutely rampant in the kidnapping, you name it.

00:48:52.000 And so I would advise people, well yesterday we had the Associated Press about these former Special Forces troops from Mexico, in Dallas and other areas, murdering people and then burning their bodies up in their cars.

00:49:08.000 I think there are several other articles today about Latin gangs.

00:49:12.000 Just all over the country, how they target police officers.

00:49:16.000 They just walk right up, randomly, as part of their initiations, and kill police.

00:49:23.000 And then the cop gets killed, and strangely enough, when they kill a cop, it just gets in the newspaper.

00:49:27.000 It's almost like it's a minor issue.

00:49:29.000 And they're basically immune.

00:49:33.000 These gangs, Because of these different laws that have been put into place, it's almost impossible to prosecute them, and they just go back to Mexico, and Mexico won't extradite them.

00:49:47.000 And they're actually above the law.

00:49:49.000 It's like the railway murderer. 0.68

00:49:51.000 He killed over 15 people, and he's been in custody multiple times, but they don't know who their real names are, they don't know who they are, and they just let them go again, and it goes around murdering people.

00:50:05.000 It's amazing.

00:50:06.000 Every criminal in Latin America knows this is like a happy hunting ground or something. 0.98

00:50:11.000 Just come up here and enjoy yourself.

00:50:14.000 If anybody tries to defend themselves on the border from you, I will send in a sting operation of FBI agents to put you in prison.

00:50:24.000 It's really that bad.

00:50:26.000 It's all part of the plan to break down our borders and when things get bad enough that we'll have a Merger of our police and military, which is already starting to happen.

00:50:34.000 The quote, deal with the threat.

00:50:39.000 Unbelievable.

00:50:41.000 But truth is unbelievable, isn't it?

00:50:42.000 Alright, we'll come back and take more of your calls at 800-259-9231.

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00:56:59.000 Mike in Illinois, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:57:02.000 Welcome, Mike.

00:57:05.000 Alright, going once, going twice, Mike's gone.

00:57:09.000 Stephen Ohio, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:57:11.000 How you doing, Alex?

00:57:12.000 Good.

00:57:13.000 Alex, real quick, on Boston Legal last Sunday there was an episode that advocates torture, and in the case the... Everybody's been emailing me.

00:57:20.000 Is this the episode where they break his arm and he's innocent, but still they say, Donald Rumsfeld's for torture, Alberto Gonzalez is good, and the court goes, yes, torture is good.

00:57:30.000 Well, yeah, I have an audio piece that I'd like to play because I recorded the episode.

00:57:34.000 I don't know if you'd need me to send it to you or not.

00:57:36.000 Absolutely, please.

00:57:37.000 Let me play this real quick.

00:57:39.000 It's about 20-something seconds, okay?

00:57:41.000 Yeah, jack it up for me.

00:57:42.000 You held a press conference singing the praises of your officers, including Mr. Kirkland.

00:57:47.000 Then, when the footage went out over the airway, suddenly my client's conduct became disgraceful.

00:57:53.000 We have not ever and will not ever condone torture.

00:57:57.000 Alan Dershowitz recently said that if we had a suspect in custody who knew that a bomb was about to go off and kill people, torture would be used.

00:58:04.000 Do you disagree with that?

00:58:05.000 We've never had such a ticking bomb case here, so I can't answer.

00:58:08.000 Let's say we're trying to crack a big terrorist case.

00:58:12.000 Say the Pan Am jet that went down in Lockerbie.

00:58:15.000 Was torture used there?

00:58:16.000 You'd have to ask the FBI.

00:58:18.000 There were reports, I should say rumors, about the Lockerbie case.

00:58:23.000 That electrical devices were attached to the prisoner's genitalia.

00:58:26.000 Objection!

00:58:26.000 Are you familiar?

00:58:27.000 This court is not going to admit rumors, Ms.

00:58:30.000 Schmidt.

00:58:31.000 Let me ask you something, Captain.

00:58:33.000 If they were tortured, do you care?

00:58:36.000 You hear that?

00:58:40.000 Uh, yes, sir.

00:58:41.000 Is there any more?

00:58:42.000 I got a whole thing of it, but I could play some clips later.

00:58:42.000 Uh, no.

00:58:45.000 I mean, if you want... I'll tell you what.

00:58:46.000 Stay there.

00:58:46.000 there we got an update on Terry Shabo coming up and we'll get back to you big brother Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Every week or two, I've sent a video of Threat Matrix or CSI Miami or 24, where they got somebody strapped down, blood pouring out where they got somebody strapped down, blood pouring out of them in a torture chair.

00:59:34.000 And the good guys hate to do it, but they got to for America.

00:59:37.000 And they've got shows in England where they torture people's children in front of them in the dramas.

00:59:42.000 And it's good they do.

00:59:43.000 It saves London.

00:59:45.000 And they've got These reality shows where people agree to be tortured at mock camps they've built in London.

00:59:52.000 I mean, these are the type of shows on U.S.

00:59:55.000 and British television.

00:59:57.000 And I got a bunch of emails about some other U.S.

00:59:59.000 TV show where they play out how torture is really good and how, well, you know, it's kind of needed.

01:00:04.000 It's kind of needed.

01:00:07.000 It's helpful.

01:00:08.000 And Mike in Illinois was just talking about that with us.

01:00:13.000 Mike, you still there?

01:00:14.000 No, this is Steve.

01:00:16.000 Okay, this is Stephen Ohio.

01:00:17.000 That's right.

01:00:18.000 Mike wasn't there.

01:00:19.000 Then we went to Stephen Ohio.

01:00:20.000 Yes, that's true.

01:00:22.000 That's the problem with callers not being there when they're supposed to.

01:00:24.000 But what did you think watching this show?

01:00:26.000 Tell us about the show again. 0.97

01:00:27.000 Well, basically I was taping Desperate Housewives because I think it's a silly show, but I wanted to see the stupidity of the show so I can kind of judge where we're going in this country.

01:00:37.000 And I happened to accidentally tape Boston Legal, so I watched it and I saw this episode where it starts out that the cop is breaking the guy's arm. 0.75

01:00:44.000 And of course the moral dilemma is both attorneys feel bad about defending the guy but in the end they justify why it's a good thing to torture because when a kid's life is at hand it's better to let cops break arms, you know?

01:00:57.000 And so it's really, it's a psychological mind game the way they do it.

01:01:01.000 Well, have you seen the weekly report I did last week where we show them breaking pro-lifers' arms?

01:01:06.000 No, I didn't.

01:01:06.000 Admittedly, oh yeah, the video's up for free up on the website, and it shows them breaking people's arms for fun, and spraying Mason women's faces and babies' faces, and this is okay, because these are evil pro-lifers.

01:01:21.000 Well, you know what, you wonder where this is going, but of course if you, um, but hey, I got another small clip to play for about 20 seconds.

01:01:26.000 Yeah, play it.

01:01:27.000 Play it for us.

01:01:30.000 Here it is, folks.

01:01:32.000 From this show.

01:01:33.000 As Americans, we love torture.

01:01:37.000 We keep it to ourselves, of course, but come on, when it comes to evildoers, torture's okay.

01:01:45.000 Hollywood certainly knows that.

01:01:47.000 Dirty Harry, too.

01:01:48.000 Charles Bronson in Death Wish.

01:01:50.000 Denzel Washington in Man on Fire.

01:01:52.000 Heroes torturing the bad guys.

01:01:54.000 In theaters all across the country, we cheered.

01:01:57.000 We like torture.

01:02:00.000 Is there potential for abuse?

01:02:02.000 Without question.

01:02:03.000 The events at Abu Ghraib Prison were deplorable.

01:02:08.000 But do we really believe they just happened in a vacuum?

01:02:14.000 Alberto Gonzalez, our Attorney General, wrote a memo to the administration saying torture is okay.

01:02:20.000 Our Supreme Court just recently held that evidence gained from torture can be used in trials.

01:02:26.000 Alan Dershowitz, one of the leading civil rights activists in our country, raised the idea of using torture warrants.

01:02:34.000 At least to be more open about it.

01:02:36.000 I'll try to play more of it.

01:02:37.000 I don't want to keep holding up your line.

01:02:39.000 Well, no.

01:02:39.000 You know what?

01:02:40.000 I want you to cue it back up to that first one, then I want you to play that one.

01:02:43.000 I want to play all of that when we get back.

01:02:45.000 Okay, which one?

01:02:46.000 You want me to cue it to the first section I played for you?

01:02:48.000 Yeah, and then we'll put you back on hold, cue it up to the next one. 0.90

01:02:51.000 You're doing a great job.

01:02:52.000 Alright, thank you, sir.

01:02:53.000 Yeah, I'll put you on hold.

01:02:54.000 Usually people turn it up too high or too low, and we can't do it.

01:02:58.000 But you got it just right.

01:03:02.000 Yeah, you know, really, I intend to try to make a documentary about propaganda in the media.

01:03:08.000 A film I'll make after this new one's out, if I ever get it done.

01:03:11.000 And I want to just show this.

01:03:13.000 I mean, I've got a stack of videos much worse than this one.

01:03:17.000 I mean, where they torture seven-year-old girls. 1.00

01:03:21.000 Simulated.

01:03:22.000 You know, it's TV.

01:03:23.000 Mainstream TV.

01:03:24.000 And it's good.

01:03:25.000 They torture children.

01:03:27.000 And what they're doing is nationally legitimizing it.

01:03:32.000 Because they want to torture you real bad, folks.

01:03:34.000 And I got footage of 1988 of them breaking pro-lifers' arms sitting on the sidewalk.

01:03:40.000 I mean, taking nunchucks, breaking it on purpose, and laughing at them.

01:03:43.000 I mean, arms just snapping.

01:03:46.000 And the courts said, yeah, you're allowed to break Christians' arms. 0.99

01:03:49.000 Soon they'll be cutting our heads off. 0.98

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01:06:59.000 All right, coming up in about 10 minutes, we're going to go back to Stephen Ohio, who's got these sickening clips off a TV show where they promote torture as a good American value.

01:07:16.000 This is happening all over TV, everywhere.

01:07:18.000 But right now, joining us is Randall Terry, and they're trying to save Terry Schindler's life.

01:07:26.000 And this case, folks, it's just a horrible example of the culture of death, wanting to kill this woman, And she is fully conscious.

01:07:37.000 She is not in a vegetative state.

01:07:39.000 And they've ordered her feeding to remove.

01:07:41.000 This happened last year for eight, nine days of pure torture until Randall Terry and the family, the Schindlers that we've had on here many times, were able to get it reinserted. 0.76

01:07:51.000 They were able to get a law passed in Florida.

01:07:54.000 Mr. Terry, I know you're in a firestorm of media attention trying to fight this for her life.

01:08:00.000 Thank you for coming on with us.

01:08:01.000 Tell us just about your organization quickly.

01:08:04.000 I am the president of the Society for Truth and Justice.

01:08:07.000 We're an activist group who mobilizes people on key issues and gets the media out to cover it.

01:08:12.000 And so, all the media attention about Terry Schiavo that you saw in 2003 and that you're seeing again now, we've been like the Wizard of Oz, pulling the strings behind the curtain.

01:08:27.000 Now, we can go to TerrysFight.org and look at how she's not a vegetarian.

01:08:32.000 This is where we need you to go.

01:08:34.000 Go to HelpTerry.com.

01:08:38.000 Terry is with an I. At HelpTerry.com, there are several things.

01:08:43.000 One is, there is a letter from Bob himself.

01:08:49.000 And if people want to hear his heart, he's asking for prayer, he's asking people to take certain action, and he's asking for financial help for their foundation if people can help so that they have the funds to fight this.

01:09:02.000 There is also the email address and the phone number of the Governor of Florida, the Speaker of the House, and the President of the Senate.

01:09:10.000 Let me stop you right there. 0.98

01:09:11.000 We're going to give all that out.

01:09:13.000 But for those that just joined us, in a nutshell, Randall, tell us, for those that don't know, What's happening to her, what the judge's order is, her state right now?

01:09:25.000 Right now she's fine.

01:09:27.000 She's being fed.

01:09:28.000 The Department of Children and Families, the Florida DCF, has formally intervened as of yesterday.

01:09:35.000 We think, and we hope, that they're actually going to take custody of her.

01:09:40.000 We don't know yet for sure, but if they do that, then Judge Greer, who has been on a track to kill her, His wishes will be ignored.

01:09:53.000 And Judge Greer has not been a friend of the family.

01:09:56.000 Thank God, Jeb Bush, the Governor, and the Legislature, they are friends of the family.

01:10:03.000 And the family is hoping and praying that the Legislature and the Governor will just continue to intervene on behalf of their daughter.

01:10:13.000 So at this time... At this time, she's okay.

01:10:16.000 She might not be as of tomorrow.

01:10:18.000 She might not be next week.

01:10:20.000 It's a very fluid situation.

01:10:24.000 Now for those that don't know the whole story, under questionable circumstances she went from being a happy, beautiful, fully functional young lady to being paralyzed from the neck down.

01:10:35.000 She's not in a vegetative state.

01:10:37.000 For years the media said that.

01:10:38.000 I mean, she's wide awake, she smiles, she laughs.

01:10:41.000 She's even been able to eat in the past, but Mr. Schiavo won't let them feed her In the classical fashion, he got her settlement for her medical treatment and has been withholding this for years.

01:10:55.000 That's correct.

01:10:56.000 He actually had some kind of a bamboozled case where he won a bunch of money and said he needed it to rehabilitate her and care for her. 0.97

01:11:03.000 And then he turned around and hired an attorney with that very money to kill her. 0.63

01:11:09.000 So that he could keep all the money. 0.98

01:11:12.000 It's craziness.

01:11:13.000 It's absolutely craziness.

01:11:14.000 And the attorney for him is a man named George Phelos. 0.99

01:11:17.000 Who is an activist attorney, who is a right to die attorney, and he is just an evil man.

01:11:26.000 This is a major precedent-setting case.

01:11:30.000 Why is it so important?

01:11:31.000 Yes, that is absolutely right, and that's why we're fighting so fiercely, because Terry, her life is in danger, but this paves the way for many other people who are severely disabled to be killed as well, and also, this has this, um, This stench of judicial activism all over it.

01:11:51.000 As you know, most of the evils that have been thrown on our country, whether it's abortion, pornography, taking away the Ten Commandments, homosexual marriage, and a dozen other things, this stuff was not voted on by us.

01:12:04.000 It was driven down our throats by the judiciary, by judges.

01:12:08.000 And finally, we have a governor and a legislature that have the gut to stand up to these people.

01:12:16.000 Let's just keep giving the support to the Governor and to the Legislature, calling on them to act.

01:12:22.000 And again, if people want to go to HelpTerry.com, they can get more details, and I appreciate you guys giving out those details for the family and for Terry.

01:12:32.000 Now, the Supreme Court just a few weeks ago said, go ahead and remove her feeding tube. 1.00

01:12:41.000 What's the rundown of what's happened since then?

01:12:45.000 You know, a short play-by-play.

01:12:47.000 There are several motions before the court involving whether or not Terry, as a Catholic, would starve herself to death because the Pope said you cannot withhold food and water.

01:12:57.000 There's the issue of whether or not he is fit to be the guardian, because he's living with another woman and has children by her, so by definition he has abandoned Terry, legally.

01:13:06.000 So how could he then be her guardian and have her killed?

01:13:09.000 So these are the things that are on the table right now.

01:13:11.000 Yeah, that's grounds for divorce right there! 1.00

01:13:14.000 It is legal abandonment.

01:13:16.000 So Terry has been legally abandoned, and yet she doesn't have the ability to get a divorce and have a new garden. 0.99

01:13:21.000 It's craziness.

01:13:22.000 And he won't, for almost a decade, he won't let them brush her teeth.

01:13:28.000 He holds back all the medical care folks.

01:13:31.000 Horrifying.

01:13:33.000 I've got to run.

01:13:34.000 I've got so many things going on here, but I'm so happy to be able to give you guys an update.

01:13:37.000 Please keep praying.

01:13:38.000 It's a very fluid situation, and if you hear The Terry's feeding tube has in fact been removed.

01:13:45.000 Then immediately get a plane, a train, or an automobile and come here to Florida and stand in vigil with her and the family.

01:13:52.000 And finally, tell folks where you're located.

01:13:55.000 We're in Florida right now.

01:13:56.000 We're in St.

01:13:57.000 Petersburg, Florida.

01:13:58.000 It's actually Clearwater right outside St.

01:13:59.000 Pete.

01:14:00.000 And where is Terry being held?

01:14:03.000 In a little town called Pinellas Park at Woodside Hospice.

01:14:08.000 Woodside Hospice, Pinellas Park, Florida.

01:14:12.000 Last question, I know you gotta go.

01:14:14.000 Uh, when are we gonna... I mean, she's gotta stay now... We don't know, that's the problem.

01:14:20.000 Tomorrow at 5 o'clock, the judge is gonna issue an order.

01:14:23.000 We don't know what that order will say.

01:14:25.000 Alright, thank you for coming on with us, Randall.

01:14:27.000 My pleasure, thanks for having me.

01:14:28.000 Take care.

01:14:29.000 Amazing.

01:14:31.000 Now, continuing with our discussion of dehumanization, Stephen Ohio called in, talking about a particular TV show and I got a bunch of emails about this.

01:14:43.000 So our caller isn't the only person that witnesses and was upset by it.

01:14:49.000 Steve, preface these clips we're about to hear for those that just joined us.

01:14:53.000 Okay, basically for the people that are just joining us, Boston Legal's episode on I believe February 20, 2005 last week had an episode where they're Advocating torture.

01:15:03.000 They have a cop breaks a guy's arm and they say it's okay to do it.

01:15:07.000 Well, that's kind of the short end of it, but this particular clip I'm going to play is the officer that broke the arm is being questioned and he's going to say that in some cases we need to use torture.

01:15:18.000 Hold on one second, okay?

01:15:19.000 And then I want to go back to that clip that you played earlier where they describe how our government says torture is good, so this is how we love torture.

01:15:28.000 Yeah, hold on.

01:15:29.000 Alright, here it is folks.

01:15:31.000 I knew he knew something.

01:15:31.000 That's amazing!

01:15:33.000 Either his brother was or what the child was.

01:15:34.000 He knew something.

01:15:36.000 And you were prepared to beat it out of him? 0.97

01:15:38.000 I was prepared to punch him. 0.80

01:15:39.000 To intimidate him. 0.68

01:15:40.000 I didn't actually mean to break his arm.

01:15:42.000 But Mr. Kirkland, what we saw on that tape... There are different rules in kidnappings.

01:15:48.000 What do you mean different rules?

01:15:50.000 Well, the understanding is we're not supposed to break bones or cause any permanent injury.

01:15:54.000 But physical discomfiture is permitted.

01:15:56.000 It's okay to, say, dislocate a shoulder, tear a muscle.

01:16:00.000 You're talking about torture.

01:16:02.000 This was an innocent man.

01:16:03.000 He wasn't even the suspected kidnapper.

01:16:06.000 And I'm sorry I hurt him.

01:16:08.000 But I felt he knew where his brother was.

01:16:10.000 I considered this to be like self-defense.

01:16:12.000 A defense of others.

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01:16:17.000 All I could think about was my own son.

01:16:20.000 The end justifies the means.

01:16:22.000 I guess I have to say yes to that.

01:16:24.000 Suppose the suspected kidnapper had confessed to a priest.

01:16:28.000 You'd feel no compunction about beating up clergy to get your information?

01:16:31.000 I didn't say that.

01:16:32.000 Well, is there a distinction?

01:16:33.000 An innocent man has information that would lead to the recovery of a child.

01:16:37.000 I guess I felt the victim here wasn't so innocent.

01:16:39.000 Ah, so you're out there playing judge, too.

01:16:41.000 Policeman, judge, executioner.

01:16:43.000 Objection.

01:16:44.000 Sustained.

01:16:45.000 Who told you it was okay to tear muscles and dislocate shoulders in kidnapping situations?

01:16:52.000 It's called formal directive.

01:16:53.000 Just understood.

01:16:54.000 Understood by the police who arrested you after you did it?

01:16:58.000 I wasn't arrested because the media got a hold of this.

01:17:00.000 That's the only reason I'm here.

01:17:02.000 How sad is that?

01:17:03.000 You tortured an innocent man with no criminal record whose only offense was that his fugitive brother stopped at his house.

01:17:11.000 And the only reason you're here is because the media got a hold of you.

01:17:15.000 All right.

01:17:16.000 Then by the end of this episode, if I get you right, he's found not guilty and it's all validated.

01:17:21.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:17:22.000 Did you play that whole clip?

01:17:23.000 It sounds like you were talking while I was playing it, but basically what happened... No, I wasn't.

01:17:27.000 The music came in and I just cut in.

01:17:29.000 Okay, okay.

01:17:29.000 I'm just going to tell you that basically what happens is the moral of the story is that in the end, they use the propaganda.

01:17:35.000 If this were your kid, you would support torture too.

01:17:38.000 And of course, obviously, a lot of people might feel that way.

01:17:41.000 Here's the point.

01:17:42.000 We have a criminal government.

01:17:44.000 Government has criminals in it, too.

01:17:46.000 Do you want to give them this power?

01:17:49.000 It's like an American citizen that was tortured in Saudi Arabia and convicted with the torture, and our government condones it.

01:17:56.000 They're saying they may ship other citizens to foreign countries for torture.

01:18:01.000 Right.

01:18:02.000 Well, I mean, you know what? 0.95

01:18:03.000 They must have shadow scriptwriters, just like you have shadow government, because the scriptwriters that write these scripts never show their face in public, because they're nothing but cowards.

01:18:12.000 And, you know, it never ceases to amaze me the level to which these people will go to.

01:18:16.000 Well, it's the same M.O.

01:18:18.000 Look, supposedly, I think every cop show and every military and CIA-type show now, they do this.

01:18:18.000 in every one of these shows.

01:18:25.000 I mean, they even torture people's children in front of them, and they're training us that it's okay.

01:18:29.000 And these cops who imprint off these shows think that's how they're supposed to behave, and out here in the real world, It's just legitimizing it.

01:18:38.000 Stay there.

01:18:39.000 I want to play that other clip where they talk about how Americans love torture.

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01:22:49.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

01:23:11.000 Let's go ahead and go back to Stephen, Ohio.

01:23:15.000 Then we'll go to Bart, Joe, Harvey, Randall, and others.

01:23:18.000 us Steve, do you have that other clip you played earlier?

01:23:21.000 Yeah, I can play that one again.

01:23:23.000 In fact, I got it cued up and ready to go.

01:23:24.000 Do you want to hear it?

01:23:25.000 Sure.

01:23:26.000 Okay, here it goes.

01:23:28.000 Amazing.

01:23:33.000 The truth is, as Americans, we love torture.

01:23:38.000 We keep it to ourselves, of course, but come on.

01:23:40.000 When it comes to...evildoers?

01:23:44.000 Torture's okay.

01:23:46.000 Hollywood certainly knows that.

01:23:48.000 Dirty Harry.

01:23:48.000 Boom.

01:23:49.000 Charles Bronson and Death Wish.

01:23:51.000 Denzel Washington and Man on Fire.

01:23:53.000 Heroes torturing the bad guys.

01:23:55.000 In theaters all across the country, we cheered.

01:23:58.000 We like torture.

01:24:01.000 Is there potential for abuse?

01:24:03.000 Without question.

01:24:05.000 The events at Abograd Prison were deplorable.

01:24:10.000 But do we really believe they just happened in a vacuum?

01:24:15.000 Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General, wrote a memo to the administration saying torture is okay.

01:24:21.000 Our Supreme Court just recently held that evidence gained from torture can be used in trials.

01:24:27.000 Alan Dershowitz, one of the leading civil rights activists in our country, raised the idea of using torture warrants.

01:24:35.000 So as at least to be more open about it.

01:24:38.000 Torture warrants.

01:24:39.000 I love that torture.

01:24:44.000 Mr. Preston talks about the victim here being an innocent man.

01:24:48.000 Now come on.

01:24:49.000 He wasn't that innocent.

01:24:50.000 He did harbor a fugitive. 0.95

01:24:51.000 One who kidnaps and kills children.

01:24:55.000 He did have information that ultimately led to the rescue of the child here.

01:24:59.000 And he refused to give it up until he was As for my client being above the law, well, the law in this country has always been subject to evolving community standards of humanity.

01:25:15.000 So the twelve of you get to go back there, as a community, and ask yourselves, was this a good thing or not?

01:25:24.000 He's happy.

01:25:25.000 He's alive.

01:25:26.000 They're sure self-happy.

01:25:30.000 My client saved a life.

01:25:32.000 That little boy's life.

01:25:36.000 If it were your child, wouldn't you want the police to do whatever was necessary?

01:25:42.000 This officer got the job done.

01:25:45.000 Using a method that our government, our military, our Attorney General, and yes, even our Supreme Court has said is sometimes okay.

01:25:53.000 Sometimes, depending on the situation, torture's okay.

01:25:58.000 Hear that?

01:26:00.000 You've got to send me that tape.

01:26:02.000 Well, I will send you the whole thing.

01:26:03.000 I'll put it on a VHS, a high-standard quality, but it's just, it's more, it's filled with more propaganda that you can shake a stick.

01:26:11.000 Well, look, we have the script for the show Spooks in England, where they torture a seven-year-old girl brutally and threaten to drop her off a building, but it's good because it saves them from the terrorists, and these shows, again, like Threat Matrix 24, CSI Miami, About a year ago, I went to see Open Range with my wife, that Kevin Costner movie.

01:26:34.000 Right.

01:26:34.000 And I don't watch a lot of TV.

01:26:36.000 They had an ad for Threat Matrix on ABC.

01:26:39.000 And it shows a guy in a high-tech black torture chair with lesions all over him.

01:26:44.000 And the woman goes, I hate doing this. 0.92

01:26:46.000 And when they torture Winston in 1984, they hate doing it.

01:26:50.000 It's for his own good.

01:26:51.000 Yeah, they always use a psychological ploy that they hate doing it, but in the end, it's good.

01:26:56.000 Well, the point is, the point is, is that the government is the last group you want involved in torture.

01:27:00.000 And certainly, what you don't want is the government condoning it, licensing it, training for it, promoting it, as they've done for 40 years at the School of America's at Fort Benning, Georgia.

01:27:10.000 But see, now, Now, I mean, certainly, if there was a case where, you know, a cop tortured somebody by himself, not under orders, they saved a child or something, then, yeah, the cop's going to get off with the jury.

01:27:23.000 But, see, they're not doing that.

01:27:24.000 They're selling it as, we need to codify it, have warrants, put in an infrastructure, and then they say, we can torture people, and then, quote, get confessions and use those.

01:27:36.000 Listen, then I talk to people all the time, and it's come out in the news where they torture innocent people, later DNA shows they're innocent, put a bag over their head until they sign and said they did it, and then send them to death row, folks!

01:27:45.000 Yeah, but according to this clip, our Supreme Court upholds that if torture is used, it's evidence against the person.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, it's really bad.

01:27:53.000 And Alberto Gonzales said we can torture somebody until they die and it's not torture if we didn't mean to kill them.

01:28:00.000 You know what I would recommend before I let you go is have everybody listening to SHURE go to ABC.com and email them and tell them that you're disgusted with this clip.

01:28:08.000 I mean, I don't care if there's a hundred people listening.

01:28:10.000 Just send an email and tell them, look, I'm tired of your propaganda.

01:28:13.000 Sir, there's not a hundred people listening.

01:28:15.000 There's not?

01:28:16.000 On one of our stations, say Kansas City, right now, there's probably, conservatively, 50,000 listening.

01:28:22.000 Super.

01:28:23.000 That's all the more power to send them the emails and start telling them.

01:28:26.000 Go to ABC.com and the very bottom is where you can email the show.

01:28:32.000 Alright, listen, great job.

01:28:34.000 Send me that tape, okay?

01:28:35.000 God bless you, Steve.

01:28:35.000 Alright, thank you, sir.

01:28:38.000 I got some more comments on torture and then we'll take your calls.

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01:32:04.000 I have video of peaceful environmental demonstrators blocking a logging road.

01:32:16.000 And instead of just taking a pair of bolt cutters and cutting the chains that they've tied themselves together with, Oh no, they want to torture, so they take bottles of mace and pepper spray, pry open their eyes, and start jamming it into their eyeballs.

01:32:36.000 And I have video of families in Portland, Oregon, and they're out there demonstrating when Bush came to town, and then they just go after the peaceful crowd, fire at them with rubber bullets. 0.95

01:32:47.000 Blasting big, bloody holes in them an inch deep.

01:32:49.000 They run right up to families, spray pepper spray right in a two-year-old's face.

01:32:53.000 The parents cry, why are you doing this?

01:32:55.000 Shouldn't bring a child to a protest, bleeper!

01:32:58.000 You know, bleep!

01:33:01.000 This is what they do, and I've got video from the early 80s, mid 90s, pro-lifers locking arms in front of abortion clinics.

01:33:10.000 And they walk right over with nunchucks, and the federal courts ruled they could do this, Wrap them around a priest or a pastor's arm or a woman's arm and they just twist and you see the arm break. 0.94

01:33:20.000 And these crowds just cheer, yeah!

01:33:24.000 And then, it's a lot worse than that.

01:33:27.000 I mean, the video I've got, we posted it at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:33:31.000 It's up there for everybody to see.

01:33:34.000 Right now.

01:33:35.000 PrisonPlanet.tv as well.

01:33:39.000 And they don't call it torture, they call it pressure.

01:33:40.000 Well, you shouldn't make us carry you Uh, to the wagons, the paddy wagons, you should... So we're going to break your arm.

01:33:52.000 And there's nothing you can do, I mean the courts were saying in the late 80s you could do this? 0.85

01:33:57.000 I mean, the courts said black people weren't human beings before, too.

01:33:59.000 The courts have said that women don't have a right to vote. 1.00

01:34:02.000 The courts have said you have no right to private property.

01:34:04.000 And now all over the country, cities are going into whole neighborhoods.

01:34:07.000 It doesn't matter if they're nice little class homes.

01:34:09.000 They go, we're just taking them and we're not even giving you fair value for them because some developers want this to build bigger houses.

01:34:15.000 That's happening.

01:34:16.000 I got the USA Today here in front of me.

01:34:18.000 Like, I need to cover that today.

01:34:21.000 Didn't really get to it in any detail yesterday.

01:34:25.000 You're like, what does this have to do with torture?

01:34:26.000 It's just wild, out of control.

01:34:29.000 The last group you want, the most dangerous group to your liberty and your freedom and your security has always been out of control government.

01:34:37.000 The Nazis tortured, the Soviets tortured, the Cubans tortured, the North Vietnamese tortured. 0.58

01:34:44.000 It is so un-American. 0.94

01:34:48.000 It's upon us.

01:34:50.000 And they're using these little mind games of, well, if there was a bomb gonna go off in Baghdad, shouldn't we be able to torture people?

01:34:57.000 You know, if a nuke's gonna go off in New York, shouldn't we be able to torture people?

01:35:01.000 Or if it's terror-related, shouldn't we be able to torture?

01:35:04.000 And now the headlines.

01:35:05.000 Having marijuana is an act of terrorism, the New Drug Czar says.

01:35:10.000 Selling a knock-off Rubik's Cube that may be a copyright infringement.

01:35:13.000 Turned out it wasn't.

01:35:15.000 Maybe terrorism.

01:35:17.000 Not paying your taxes doesn't allow the government to get the funds it needs to fight terror and age terrorists.

01:35:23.000 That'll be terrorism.

01:35:25.000 Protesting the war aids terrorists, and so the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General Calhoun of California said last year, we may ban protests, period, because it aids terrorists.

01:35:36.000 That's a Democrat.

01:35:38.000 Tony Blakely, Washington Times editorial editor, says let's arrest Seymour Hersh and let's execute him.

01:35:47.000 Well, here's the U.S.

01:35:48.000 Code. 1.00

01:35:48.000 Let's kill this Pulitzer Prize winning reporter. 1.00

01:35:51.000 He's aiding terrorists. 1.00

01:35:55.000 On and on and on.

01:35:57.000 Let's put Americans in forced labor camps if they disagree with the government. 0.58

01:36:00.000 Because they're aiding terrorists.

01:36:02.000 Michael Weiner says that.

01:36:05.000 Over and over and over and over again.

01:36:07.000 It's just everywhere.

01:36:09.000 I mean, Time Magazine, Newsweek, USA Today, Washington Times.

01:36:15.000 Over and over again, Alan Dershowitz travels the country, came to Austin, gave a speech.

01:36:18.000 I didn't go to it, but I saw the video of the speech.

01:36:20.000 All about how torture is good.

01:36:22.000 We need to incorporate torture into American life.

01:36:25.000 You heard that clip earlier.

01:36:26.000 Torture is really a good new moral value.

01:36:29.000 Our moral values have evolved and gotten better.

01:36:32.000 And so now we're going to start torturing people. 0.99

01:36:38.000 And a lot of so-called Christian conservatives go, yeah, torture them Muslims. 1.00

01:36:42.000 They're animals. 1.00

01:36:42.000 What you don't know is FEMA's training for you. 1.00

01:36:45.000 All the real training, I mean 90% of it, is for homeschoolers and Christians and pro-lifers and land rights activists and Second Amendment demonstrators.

01:36:54.000 And they're just training the police that, oh, it's not pressure. 0.60

01:36:58.000 I guess shooting somebody with rubber bullets at 10 feet away and blowing their eye out and pushing it back into their brain and the young lady drops dead and dies. 0.87

01:37:08.000 That's okay, they said. 1.00

01:37:10.000 They killed her.

01:37:10.000 So what?

01:37:11.000 She's dead.

01:37:12.000 She's dead.

01:37:13.000 She shouldn't have been out on the street.

01:37:16.000 You know.

01:37:17.000 How it is.

01:37:20.000 And that's all any of this is.

01:37:21.000 I mean, if you think black ski masks and black uniforms and armored vehicles and cameras everywhere in the news saying torture's good.

01:37:26.000 I mean, if you really think that's freedom, the new morals.

01:37:29.000 Oh, it's like new freedom.

01:37:30.000 We have a new freedom to forcibly, psychologically test you.

01:37:33.000 We have the Patriot Act!

01:37:36.000 It's all patriotic!

01:37:37.000 Why it says Patriot, it must be!

01:37:42.000 It's like all of this.

01:37:46.000 Oh, we were brought up the Nazis were bad, the Soviets were bad because they tortured, and now... Now, no, no, no, it was good! 0.98

01:37:54.000 It was good!

01:37:55.000 Of course, the Army's own report says that they sodomized people with Large objects dripping with battery acid.

01:38:02.000 That's the General Toogumbo Report.

01:38:03.000 Just type in General Toogumbo Report, MSNBC.

01:38:06.000 And he said, yeah, they've confessed.

01:38:07.000 It's true.

01:38:08.000 And they said they were ordered to do it.

01:38:09.000 And that was a CIA operation.

01:38:11.000 And they would, um, they'd, uh, bring a wife in. 0.96

01:38:14.000 They'd pick up a family at a checkpoint and think, well, the man might be a terrorist. 0.98

01:38:19.000 And so they'd just take his wife in in front of him and rape her. 0.99

01:38:23.000 Same to the children. 1.00

01:38:24.000 It's just freedom, folks.

01:38:25.000 It's freedom.

01:38:27.000 Freedom.

01:38:28.000 I don't think it's freedom, I think it's pure evil.

01:38:30.000 And then the other Army report, this will be in my new film by the way, the new Army report came out and said, well, 75-90% of those that are in the 32 camps, some of the camps have over 20,000 people in them, 75-90% are completely innocent of anything.

01:38:50.000 They're just picked up at the checkpoints and they're taken to the camps

01:38:55.000 For every sicko federal prison guard who ever loved abuse, this goes on in our prisons too, gets to go over there and make, it is a, the Jeffrey Dahmers, the John Wayne Gacy's, the Ted Bundy's of the world, go over there and bite, this has happened, bite chunks out of people, have dogs bite their body parts, and then sew them up with no deadening,

01:39:22.000 And laugh about it and hold thumbs up over bodies they've beaten to death. 0.94

01:39:26.000 Then they pack them in ice and take them out and their organs are cut out and sold.

01:39:29.000 That's now admitted?

01:39:32.000 You think that's good, huh?

01:39:35.000 You see, that's how torture works. 0.93

01:39:36.000 It isn't just the one little case of, well, there's a bomb going to go off and we have to torture.

01:39:40.000 They won't tell us.

01:39:41.000 Or, well, what if a child was kidnapped and we had the person and we had to know?

01:39:46.000 Isn't torture good?

01:39:47.000 You know, to find out answers?

01:39:49.000 Well, see, that'll be the excuse in every case.

01:39:52.000 It'll be used system-wide.

01:39:54.000 They'll have all these special torture officers, which they admit they've trained.

01:39:59.000 You know, they, uh, it's funny, uh, the Padilla case, um, not the Padilla that's the supposed, uh, hijacker, but the other Padilla, the black man, they were at a bar, somebody bumped into a cop during a scuffle, And the police thought it was this one guy.

01:40:22.000 Later they admitted it was somebody else because cameras picked it up.

01:40:25.000 And so they just took him down to the precinct and for two hours... Well, you know what they did with a three-foot brimstick.

01:40:34.000 The man had internal bleeding all the way into his upper intestine.

01:40:40.000 Actually, I don't want to go any further, folks. 0.81

01:40:46.000 Just the most savage, demonic, It's like this demonic family that needs to be tried as quickly as possible and executed in Houston with the eight-month-old baby being so brutally raped that almost all the internal organs are shutting down. 1.00

01:41:07.000 They need to kill those people immediately. 1.00

01:41:10.000 And you know what, though? 0.99

01:41:11.000 The Founding Fathers said, after the good trial, The Founding Fathers said, you don't even torture those other people though, because you will become them the minute you torture.

01:41:22.000 So, uh, this sexual abuse stuff, I mean, that's what... A lot of times cops in this country, when they get caught torturing, it's sexual.

01:41:30.000 At Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, it's sexual in nature.

01:41:36.000 Because, in almost every case, study criminology.

01:41:40.000 I took one course in it in college, but I've read a lot of books on criminology.

01:41:44.000 The textbook type books.

01:41:45.000 I don't waste my time on the crime story ones, and you know, true story crime stuff.

01:41:51.000 Almost all your serial killers, it's sexual. 0.99

01:41:54.000 It's sexual torture. 0.99

01:41:57.000 This is the MO. 0.98

01:41:58.000 This is the mindset.

01:42:00.000 And so you look at the torture at Gitmo that we can't even mention here, folks.

01:42:04.000 I mean, you can go read AP and Reuters reports about it.

01:42:08.000 I'm not going to mention it here.

01:42:10.000 It's so bad. 0.52

01:42:11.000 It's so gross.

01:42:15.000 And remember, the Campbelli-Hutchinson-Mitts and others, they went and watched the videos.

01:42:19.000 There was over a thousand photos and over a hundred videos that the public wasn't allowed to see, showing the rape of women and children.

01:42:29.000 Can you imagine being a father or a mother and watching your child be tortured in front of you?

01:42:34.000 Children as young as seven years of age.

01:42:37.000 I mean, how do you people ever... But see, you did.

01:42:41.000 You rationalized it.

01:42:43.000 And again, at these camps, it's sexual. 0.99

01:42:48.000 It's because the people doing it are sickos. 0.99

01:42:54.000 And the Nazis did that too. 1.00

01:42:56.000 They like to rape people and torture people and torture their children in front of them. 1.00

01:43:01.000 But they're bad, but we're good. 1.00

01:43:03.000 No, we're not good.

01:43:04.000 We're sick.

01:43:08.000 And I can't tell you how many editorials I've seen where they promote all this. 0.55

01:43:11.000 And so I think you might have punched a cop. 0.97

01:43:14.000 So we're going to take you downtown, and in front of about 20 police, we're going to take a broomstick until blood pours out of your body. 0.96

01:43:26.000 For two hours.

01:43:29.000 How do you even begin to imagine the pain involved in that?

01:43:35.000 And by the way, it went public because a good cop, a senior officer, went and reported it, and the senior officers over him didn't do anything, they just went to the media.

01:43:45.000 But see, next time they'll think, well, maybe this was moral.

01:43:49.000 Maybe the world's against me, maybe I shouldn't report it.

01:43:52.000 And so when you do something wrong, and the roid head sicko who beats his wife, who maybe was a prison guard in Iraq comes back home when Johnny comes marching home, and it's your daughter, your son.

01:44:11.000 Heaven help us, just God help us.

01:44:13.000 I don't... It's so sick.

01:44:17.000 That TV show we aired earlier actually said, the new American value.

01:44:21.000 It's good.

01:44:23.000 It's good.

01:44:25.000 No, it's not good.

01:44:26.000 It's straight out of the pit of hell.

01:44:28.000 All of Christ's disciples were tortured.

01:44:31.000 Christ was tortured.

01:44:36.000 Well, the Romans didn't do anything sexual, though.

01:44:38.000 They weren't as low as we are.

01:44:43.000 Eleven of the twelve disciples were killed for what they stood for.

01:44:48.000 Christ was brutally tortured.

01:44:50.000 You should go see The Passion of Christ, because that's a very historical rendition, reenactment of that particular scene of the torture.

01:45:00.000 He was unrecognizable.

01:45:03.000 And the Bible is firmly against torture.

01:45:07.000 Firmly against it.

01:45:09.000 The founding fathers were.

01:45:12.000 So, we see at Abu Ghraib, the same things we see in the New York Police Department, the same thing we see this mother and father, allegedly, and if it's true they need to be executed, doing to their baby. 0.96

01:45:28.000 You see, it's the same demonic vomit.

01:45:35.000 So, You better stand up against this torture and this mind job they're doing on us.

01:45:39.000 It's the same thing with the microchips, all these TV shows.

01:45:42.000 Oh, chips are good.

01:45:43.000 Everybody needs a microchip under their skin.

01:45:44.000 Andy Rooney.

01:45:45.000 Everybody needs a chip so we know who the good people are and know who the terrorists are.

01:45:49.000 Are you seeing what they're trying to sell us?

01:45:51.000 And, by the way, with the new electronic voting machines, they'll tell us we're for something even when we aren't and then pass it and then not care if we try to recall them because we can't.

01:46:01.000 It's like 98% of people in Houston, 93% in Texas, in Austin are against these toll roads.

01:46:06.000 They just say, we don't care.

01:46:08.000 Or they don't have electronic voting machines, they vote it down in England 2 to 1.

01:46:11.000 3 to 1, excuse me.

01:46:16.000 Let's go ahead and see so they know they can do all this now with impunity.

01:46:22.000 They're running wild. 0.98

01:46:23.000 And as more and more criminals get in positions of power, as more and more sickos and psychopaths and sociopaths and sadists get into control, they put people like them under them. 0.99

01:46:32.000 And they're going to feed and feed and feed a bloody feast on you and me. 0.99

01:46:40.000 You want open culture possessed by the spirit of Satan?

01:46:46.000 You're going to see it unless you stand up in a herd.

01:46:50.000 Uh, let's talk to Bart in Texas.

01:46:52.000 Thanks for holding.

01:46:53.000 Go ahead.

01:46:54.000 Alright, well Alex, you know, real quick on what you were talking about, anybody that condones torture or doesn't condemn torture are not Christian. 0.93

01:47:04.000 And if they try and make any claim to be, they're totally deluded.

01:47:08.000 Well, America never had to torture before!

01:47:10.000 You know, they sell it like it's some good, wonderful thing we've got now.

01:47:13.000 No!

01:47:15.000 Well, I mean, the other thing too is that whole argument about if it was your kid You know, that have been kidnapped.

01:47:20.000 What happens when it's your kid that's innocent and being tortured?

01:47:25.000 Well, that's the point.

01:47:25.000 The state is more apt to abuse us in mass, statistically, than the... because the smart psychopaths go become cops!

01:47:34.000 Don't people understand that when this happens, that's what tyranny is?

01:47:37.000 The criminals take over?

01:47:39.000 The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

01:47:42.000 That's what the American people are being sold on, you know.

01:47:46.000 But what I really wanted to talk about is, you know, I went to this IndyMedia conference over the weekend at UT last weekend and I have to say that I was really disappointed in the group of people that were there and actually how frightened I am because so many of them, I'd say probably my friend and I were the only people that weren't sucked into the left-right argument

01:48:13.000 Pretty much everyone that was there were leftists and they just they kept harping on issues that totally buy into this matrix system that's used to control our mind.

01:48:26.000 You know, Amy Goodman got up and she spoke for a while and you know at the end she was talking about how you know Osama Bin Laden should be tried in a court for 9-11 and all this other garbage.

01:48:39.000 Yeah, playing into the fact that Al-Qaeda is real.

01:48:42.000 Exactly.

01:48:43.000 That's what Ward Churchill does.

01:48:45.000 He says Al-Qaeda are these heroes and the people in the towers are Nazis.

01:48:49.000 No, Al-Qaeda is CIA and the people in the towers weren't Nazis.

01:48:53.000 Well, what's frightening is that IndyMedia has a lot of potential But it's potential is totally being lost.

01:49:01.000 Just ignore it and set up your own independent media system.

01:49:04.000 That's what I'm doing.

01:49:06.000 Not to harp on it too much, but to ask you a question.

01:49:10.000 You've talked in the past about how Democracy Now!

01:49:13.000 is funded by all of these corporations.

01:49:16.000 Listening to Ms.

01:49:17.000 Goodman speak, I really have to almost wonder if she's agent provocateur. 0.59

01:49:23.000 Well, I mean, look, they have the phony right-wing groups, they have the phony left-wing groups.

01:49:27.000 I mean, Limbaugh and Damien Goodman are no different.

01:49:30.000 They're there to give you false alternatives.

01:49:32.000 And hey, um, are you not on 9 to Midnight anymore?

01:49:34.000 Because I keep turning red whenever I dial in on mine.

01:49:40.000 I'm going to have to talk to you during the break.

01:49:42.000 I'll try to answer that question.

01:49:42.000 I'm not quite sure exactly what your question is, so I'll try to be specific.

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01:53:05.000 Look folks, I'm on three different internet streams during the day, two different ones at night, and unless the schedule's wrong at GCNlive.com, you should be able to get me from nine until six in the morning.

01:53:20.000 The show is re-aired three times.

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01:53:28.000 And I get emails all the time, people hearing other stuff.

01:53:32.000 And uh, you know, just look around.

01:53:36.000 And if you've got a problem, call the network.

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01:53:38.000 They're great folks.

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01:53:42.000 I really can't answer all those questions on air, because I don't... I'm so busy just trying to... I've got to go do Battle of the Popular Mechanics on NPR tonight.

01:53:52.000 Trying to make a film.

01:53:53.000 You know, and I'm not whining.

01:53:55.000 I mean, I'm getting the fight I wanted.

01:53:58.000 More of the fight than I ever wanted though.

01:54:02.000 We're going to continue with open phones.

01:54:03.000 We're going to talk to Randall and Joe and Harvey and another Randall and many many others that are patiently holding as we start Start at the third hour.

01:54:18.000 And I've just got a bunch of news here in front of me.

01:54:21.000 All these articles about citizen spies all over the news.

01:54:24.000 How wonderful it is they're training all these people to be spies on their neighbors.

01:54:27.000 And it says, well, we're not just training them to fight terror, but crime too, you know, since they're interested.

01:54:32.000 You know, to spy on their neighbors and do they smell anything?

01:54:35.000 Are they using drugs?

01:54:37.000 Are they spanking their children? 1.00

01:54:39.000 Which isn't even illegal, but they tell you it is.

01:54:42.000 Go ahead and call on them.

01:54:43.000 You know, that's what they do with these things.

01:54:44.000 I've even gone to some of these events.

01:54:48.000 And I got, uh, there's a new thing where they're going to make anybody who has a restraining order on them, which women usually get when they divorce their husbands, even if there's no violence, have to wear a dog collar around their neck. 0.76

01:55:00.000 I'm not kidding, folks!

01:55:03.000 This is mainstream news.

01:55:06.000 And I've got the police raiding funerals.

01:55:08.000 It just gets crazier and crazier and crazier by the minute.

01:55:13.000 I got this USA Today article.

01:55:15.000 I never got to yesterday, but I'm going to try to get to it in the next hour.

01:55:19.000 About where the government now says it's not even that your house is condemned for problems, we just want your whole neighborhood for new housing development because the developers want it.

01:55:30.000 We're not even going to pay you fair value.

01:55:32.000 It's just the wildest, most corrupt looting.

01:55:36.000 I call it looting.

01:55:39.000 And it's going to get worse and worse.

01:55:40.000 That's what tyranny is, folks. 0.97

01:55:42.000 In most cases in history, this is the norm.

01:55:46.000 Criminals, ruthless strongmen, and their supporters, get control of societies, and they do whatever they want, and they tell you it's for your own good. 0.91

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01:57:43.000 Hello, folks.

01:57:44.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Wow, those first two hours blasted past us.

01:58:13.000 It is Thursday, the 24th day of good old February 2005.

01:58:21.000 And I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:58:25.000 There is just a ton of news I want to get into in this hour.

01:58:30.000 You know, we need to focus more on these citizen spies, a global epidemic.

01:58:34.000 Just yesterday we posted the story, hey, citizen spies, the latest, hottest class is public, free, and big.

01:58:41.000 Brother expects your participation.

01:58:43.000 Now we read the BBC story about the citizens in Sussex, in England, armed with police-issued radar guns, patrolling their neighborhoods in shifts and documenting speeding motorists.

01:58:52.000 Like all propaganda, the article gently demonstrates how necessary it is for the civilian spies to be on patrol, and look how cute the little old ladies are in their yellow vest. 0.95

01:59:02.000 Good thing these volunteer spies took their anger management courses from the loving police state they worship.

01:59:07.000 Otherwise, those bad lawbreakers might really have them down. 0.78

01:59:12.000 And this is deadly serious.

01:59:14.000 All around the world, Stasi-style civilian spy corps are popping up to help Big Brother keep watch. 0.93

01:59:21.000 And from England to the U.S., I have these articles.

01:59:23.000 Here's one out of the Wichita Eagle Public Offering Class on Terrorist Spotting.

01:59:27.000 I want to talk about this, but let's go back to your calls right now.

01:59:32.000 Let's go ahead and speak with Joe in Florida.

01:59:38.000 Joe, you're on the air.

01:59:39.000 Go ahead.

01:59:40.000 Hey, Alex.

01:59:41.000 Can you hear me alright?

01:59:42.000 Pretty good, yeah.

01:59:43.000 Okay.

01:59:44.000 Well, I was in North Fort Lauderdale, Florida yesterday, and I noticed in the skies they had the smoke coming out of the jets, those big long streams.

01:59:54.000 What is that stuff?

01:59:59.000 What is it?

02:00:00.000 It could be for crops.

02:00:01.000 It could be for something else.

02:00:02.000 What good is that stuff?

02:00:03.000 Well, number one, what type of phone are you on?

02:00:06.000 Here, let me take it off speaker phone.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, that's kind of a rule on talk radio.

02:00:12.000 Cordless is bad.

02:00:13.000 Speakers worse.

02:00:15.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:16.000 Can you hear me okay now?

02:00:17.000 Yes, sir.

02:00:18.000 All right.

02:00:19.000 Now, I heard what you said.

02:00:21.000 Chemtrails.

02:00:22.000 Yeah.

02:00:23.000 Well, I mean, most people point up at jets with real condensation trails, ice crystals forming.

02:00:28.000 Because the plane goes through the water vapor and causes it to condense and form larger conglomerates of the molecules, then forming into ice crystals.

02:00:38.000 But we'll see planes 4,000 feet on a hot day, and it sits there for 3, 4, 5 hours.

02:00:47.000 That's not normal.

02:00:48.000 That's not scientific.

02:00:50.000 Something's going on.

02:00:52.000 And there's a whole area of study and debate about it, but I know this, until five, six years ago I never saw this phenomenon, and now I see it with my own two little beady eyes.

02:01:02.000 Yeah, the reason why I'm calling and bringing it up is because not only did I see it in Fort Lauderdale, I mean, I must have counted 20 trails, and they were right over my head, and there was some farmland, but it was out further away from me.

02:01:16.000 This was, like, actually right over my head and into the city a little more.

02:01:20.000 Alright, it was from Fort Lauderdale and expanded all the way to West Palm Beach, which is about 60 miles away where I live.

02:01:30.000 I noticed it at the job.

02:01:31.000 I noticed it on my way home to go to West Palm Beach.

02:01:34.000 It was in West Palm Beach they were doing it.

02:01:36.000 It was more than one plane.

02:01:37.000 It was like three or four planes in each city doing it.

02:01:40.000 And then I went cut across over back to St.

02:01:43.000 Petersburg, where I'm originally from.

02:01:46.000 All this in one day, within a matter of two hours.

02:01:49.000 Three hours, four hours.

02:01:50.000 I'd seen them doing it in Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, and in Okeechobee, which is center of the state.

02:02:01.000 It was all over.

02:02:02.000 I was wondering what the heck was going on.

02:02:04.000 I couldn't believe it.

02:02:04.000 Every time I looked in the air, there was another jet running through.

02:02:09.000 Well, did each trail stay there for hours?

02:02:12.000 They were staying there for a while, and they were actually expanding, too.

02:02:15.000 Instead of just Disappearing, they would actually spread and it looked like a little fog.

02:02:21.000 No, I know.

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02:02:32.000 It just doesn't go away.

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02:02:36.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:37.000 We're talking about chemtrails.

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02:06:09.000 Alright my friends, we're now 8 minutes and 27 seconds into this third and final hour on this Thursday edition.

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02:06:23.000 Every couple days I see news articles around the country, always glowing reports of how good these little Tattletail Squad meetings are, these snitch meetings, that you're encouraged to go to. 0.95

02:06:38.000 And I've gone to one or two of these, and they sit up there in front of the crowd of do-gooders, and they talk about what to look for with terrorists.

02:06:46.000 And then they go, now you may not think that normal crime is terrorism, but actually it is.

02:06:52.000 It terrorizes your community, and makes the police have to work hard fighting that, so then the real terrorists, the classical terrorists, can get you.

02:07:02.000 And so they spend about 10% of their time showing you a picture of Bin Laden, and And then they teach you, look for people that look normal.

02:07:11.000 A woman that looks like she's pregnant, or a woman with a baby carriage, or a priest. 0.98

02:07:16.000 Do you smell marijuana?

02:07:18.000 Do you hear people yelling at each other?

02:07:20.000 Do you see people arguing on the side of the road, a man and woman?

02:07:24.000 Is somebody walking down the road with a backpack?

02:07:27.000 Do you see someone spanking their child? 0.99

02:07:30.000 And so the people come to, quote, Fight terrorism and they learn, oh, it's everything.

02:07:39.000 Because again, Homeland Security has said pot dealing, topless Mars, county... Do we have a caller on the line with us?

02:07:49.000 Oh, okay.

02:07:50.000 That was unusual.

02:07:52.000 We'll go back to your calls here in a little while.

02:07:54.000 Folks, never had that happen before, but we'll take your calls later here.

02:07:58.000 But finishing up what I was saying, Going back to what I was saying, you go to these meetings and you learn.

02:08:11.000 Is that person selling knock-off Rubik's Cubes?

02:08:14.000 You learn that, oh, when somebody calls and complains too much, that's a form of harassment, a form of terrorism, so we need to come around.

02:08:23.000 These are all real cases.

02:08:25.000 I remember just weeks after 9-11 there was an AP article out of New Jersey where they were training them.

02:08:30.000 Look for pregnant women, look for priests, look for people who look normal. 1.00

02:08:33.000 All crime is really terrorism.

02:08:39.000 It's amazing.

02:08:40.000 So, here's an article.

02:08:42.000 Now understand, they don't have any real terrorists to fight.

02:08:47.000 Okay?

02:08:48.000 And so, what they then have to do is give the people something to tattletale on like crime.

02:08:56.000 But if they advertise come be snitches for crime, most people won't show up.

02:09:00.000 You know, if you see some crime going on, you'll call the police.

02:09:03.000 I have before.

02:09:04.000 But you don't need to go learn how to be a snitch and learn that, you know, was the neighbor spanking their child. 1.00

02:09:09.000 The unlikely traffic cops, and this is one on the BBC where it shows they're doing it over there, Villagers in Sussex are so exasperated by speeding motorists, they are catching them themselves.

02:09:23.000 And we have the same thing here now.

02:09:24.000 69-year-old Pearl raises her shooting arm, takes aim and pulls the trigger.

02:09:30.000 41!

02:09:30.000 Get him, Gene, she says.

02:09:33.000 and uh... the cars about a hundred yards away and slows down to the pair's yellow jackets come into view but it's too late for her and her colleagues scribble down the number plate as it passes unaware of the stony faced stare from the driver after speed humps cameras and sleeping policemen this is the latest initiative to try to curb fast drivers it could soon be operating on the street near you after all it doesn't cost a penny so they also sell it

02:10:03.000 You know, for issues that sound kind of innocuous, like it's no big deal.

02:10:07.000 That, you know, this is gonna catch the terrorists for us.

02:10:12.000 At first, it's little things, and then it expands out.

02:10:17.000 But here's one out of the Wichita Eagle.

02:10:20.000 Public-offered class on terrorist spotting.

02:10:24.000 It's going to take more than all the law enforcement officers in the country to keep America safe from terrorist attacks.

02:10:33.000 We need our neighbors too.

02:10:35.000 Average folks will play a quote vital part in keeping the nation safe from terrorist acts said Andrea Bannister, Director of the Regional Community Policing Training Institute at Wichita State University.

02:10:48.000 To help battle on, the Institute is hosting two free programs this week to train residents in counterterrorism.

02:10:55.000 The first will be at 6 p.m.

02:10:56.000 Wednesday at WSU and the second will be the same time Thursday at Kansas State University In Manhattan.

02:11:04.000 That's today.

02:11:06.000 The Wichita class will be held in room 231 of Hubbard Hall in case you want to go.

02:11:13.000 The K-State class will be in room 108 of the Edwards Hall.

02:11:17.000 Registration of both sites will begin at 530.

02:11:19.000 Participants will learn the basics of counterterrorism, she said.

02:11:24.000 Who's going to notice these indicators out there is the community, she asked.

02:11:29.000 Law enforcement?

02:11:30.000 They can't be everywhere all the time.

02:11:32.000 They can't be expected to be.

02:11:34.000 That's just unrealistic.

02:11:36.000 That's why classes are being created for the public to learn what to watch for, Bannister said.

02:11:41.000 It's not unlike recognizing the signs of other threats such as a meth house or a drug dealer.

02:11:48.000 What you'll see with meth labs is a funny smell.

02:11:52.000 Cellophane over the windows.

02:11:54.000 Traffic going in and out, she said.

02:11:56.000 Learning to recognize tip-offs of terrorism activity is the same idea as that.

02:12:03.000 And it just goes on and on.

02:12:05.000 Bannister recently returned from a two-week fellowship to Israel where she was taught how to resist, and it goes on and on, and how residents and law enforcement deal with suicide attacks.

02:12:17.000 Such a big problem here.

02:12:19.000 In Israel, for instance, authorities aren't the only ones who are well educated on terrorist tactics.

02:12:23.000 Spaniards are set.

02:12:24.000 The bus drivers are very aware of what to look for.

02:12:28.000 And she goes on and on.

02:12:30.000 The program will show residents what to watch for and how to report to police.

02:12:34.000 Participants will also learn more about the Patriot Act, the motivations and tools of terrorists, and what homeland security involves.

02:12:41.000 So it'll be a propaganda piece for the Patriot Act, too.

02:12:44.000 American law enforcement officers have been getting this kind of training for a while now, Bannister said.

02:12:52.000 Well, I would encourage

02:12:55.000 people who live in that area to go to this and I guarantee if you go and it's like the other training seminars we've seen they'll spend about ten percent of the time on terrorism and then move in to drugs and guns and well the four hundred and something thousand truck drivers that are being trained for these new programs it's we're going to fight terror and and and then the truck driving company gets credits

02:13:23.000 Uh, on their insurance if they send their people to this and they get encouraged to do it, they can get cash payments if they do it.

02:13:30.000 And we've read the manuals and I've covered it here on air.

02:13:33.000 It says, look for people wearing a backpack.

02:13:36.000 Uh, look for individuals who are arguing on the street.

02:13:39.000 Uh, do you see someone in their car?

02:13:42.000 Does it not look like a normal cigarette?

02:13:44.000 Does it look like, does it look like marijuana?

02:13:47.000 Are they holding it in?

02:13:49.000 Call the police.

02:13:52.000 It's sick.

02:13:53.000 Totally un-American.

02:13:55.000 And our government has hired former heads of the KGB to consult with Homeland Security.

02:13:59.000 That is confirmed.

02:14:00.000 They've hired Marcus Wolf, the former head of the Stasi, as a consultant.

02:14:05.000 Truth is stranger than fiction.

02:14:08.000 It's amazing.

02:14:09.000 Let's go ahead now and take another call.

02:14:15.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Harvey in Florida.

02:14:18.000 Harvey, go ahead.

02:14:19.000 Hello, Alex.

02:14:20.000 How are you today?

02:14:21.000 Good, sir.

02:14:21.000 You're talking about so many important topics.

02:14:25.000 When you were talking about torture chambers, I was really in tears.

02:14:30.000 You know, today it's them, tomorrow it's you.

02:14:35.000 Well, we were talking about the TV shows all promoting torture.

02:14:38.000 And we were playing some clips, yeah.

02:14:40.000 Yeah, well, you know, the caller that you had before, Following the Terry Schiavo case.

02:14:47.000 Now, he's fooled by Jeb Bush, but don't be fooled for a minute.

02:14:50.000 He's doing this as a publicity stunt.

02:14:53.000 He has no interest in saving one human being because his brother's torturing and killing hundreds of human beings.

02:14:59.000 They're dropping 500-pound bombs in Iraq right this very minute.

02:15:03.000 Well, I mean, certainly politicians grandstand.

02:15:07.000 But, you know, even if a politician's bad, when they do the right thing, then we have to at least say it's good.

02:15:14.000 Right, this may be one thing that he's doing good, but he's doing so many horrible things in Florida. 0.74

02:15:18.000 Oh yeah, it's like rat poison.

02:15:19.000 Rat poison is 98% good food.

02:15:22.000 This is a publicity stunt for Jeb Bush.

02:15:24.000 Don't be fooled by it.

02:15:26.000 You still have to commend the legislature for passing that law to try to save this woman's life.

02:15:34.000 That's absolutely correct.

02:15:36.000 You know, for the last few days you were talking about the 9-11 bringing your evidence to the table.

02:15:42.000 And I don't want to take too much of your time today, but if the people would just look at it, who really profited from it?

02:15:47.000 It's not just the people that were short the stock exchange and the stocks on 9-11.

02:15:54.000 The people that have profited are the Spence, like the Grumman Corporation, the Lockheed Corporation, Martin Marriott, or the Carlyle Group, especially run by Secretary of Defense Carlucci.

02:16:06.000 George Bush's uncle just made record profits.

02:16:10.000 Yeah, they're all making record profits on this, though.

02:16:12.000 They, you know, the Carlyle Group bought those military companies for about ten cents on the dollar before any of this happened.

02:16:20.000 Yeah, that's what they did.

02:16:21.000 They automatically claimed that we were all shutting down and the military build-up was over, knowing that then the prices would plunge.

02:16:29.000 Then they bought up the companies, put their people in government, and radically expanded the defense budget.

02:16:35.000 Yep.

02:16:35.000 I mean, this is trillions of dollars, Alex.

02:16:38.000 This is trillions of dollars.

02:16:40.000 There's $2.4 trillion, $2 trillion, $400 billion missing from the Pentagon in the last 10 years.

02:16:47.000 That's just what's missing, but what's been fed to these monsters, these military-industrial complex, and Carlisle Group just announced record profits this week.

02:16:58.000 Their profits doubled in 2004, what they were in 2003.

02:17:01.000 Right, so these are the friends of Daddy Bush, Grumman, Martin Marietta, Bechtel, Carlisle Group, Halliburton, So on and so forth.

02:17:08.000 So a handful of companies that bought this.

02:17:10.000 You don't think that's reason enough when you're talking trillions of dollars.

02:17:13.000 These companies were all around to bring them back.

02:17:15.000 Well yeah, the motive for 9-11 was 4 trillion in oil in Afghanistan.

02:17:19.000 Uh, excuse me, 3 trillion in Afghanistan, 4 trillion in Iraq, hundreds of billions in weapons sales, and getting a new military launch base to invade other countries.

02:17:28.000 If the people can't see it, they're absolutely blinded by the propaganda.

02:17:32.000 I mean, this is so blatant, and that's the reason for 9-11.

02:17:35.000 It is more than that.

02:17:36.000 Nothing less.

02:17:37.000 Thanks for the call.

02:17:38.000 Good points.

02:17:38.000 I appreciate it.

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02:22:06.000 Let's talk to Randy in Florida.

02:22:08.000 Randy, you're on the air.

02:22:09.000 Welcome.

02:22:13.000 Yeah, well, you know, I mean, what you were talking about with the torture and all that just, you know, leads right into, you know, what's going on with Terry Shabo.

02:22:20.000 I mean, if you could torture people, you can certainly can starve them to death, too.

02:22:23.000 That's the next step downward.

02:22:26.000 Well, it certainly is, and again, torture can never be supported or advocated because the Founding Fathers, the Bible, it all tells us that we turn into what we're supposedly fighting, and now the media is promoting it wall-to-wall like it's a great thing, when they admit almost everybody at those camps in Iraq was totally innocent to begin with.

02:22:46.000 And, you know, the torture's so good, why is it all perverted and sexual?

02:22:52.000 Well, I just spend a letter Uh, an email to the governor and a letter to the editor of our paper here.

02:22:59.000 I'll run it by you.

02:23:00.000 Our state is once again on the verge of shamefully stuffing out the life of Terri Schiavo, an innocent woman in a despicable manner by starvation, which can't even be done to an animal or a convict in Florida.

02:23:12.000 Civil authority was established and ordained by God to defend and protect folks just like her. 0.93

02:23:18.000 Regardless of what man's laws, there's some jackass judge rules, and prevails in Trump-tucked also.

02:23:25.000 Our gutless wonder governor tops out by saying he will only do what the law allows.

02:23:29.000 So I ask, whose law?

02:23:31.000 Yeah, Bush.

02:23:32.000 God's or man's. 0.91

02:23:33.000 He or the local sheriff, where Terry is, should show some backbone and moral courage and defend their life by force if necessary.

02:23:40.000 Well, that's a good point.

02:23:41.000 If you starve a horse to death, you go to jail.

02:23:44.000 Right.

02:23:46.000 Or if you were to lock your dog up in a cage and starve it to death, you'd go to jail.

02:23:51.000 But look, Terry, first they said she was vegetative, which she's not.

02:23:55.000 She's fully conscious.

02:23:56.000 I mean, that's admitted.

02:23:59.000 But they kill people all the time who are verbally saying, may I please have food?

02:24:04.000 Well, here's the rest of it.

02:24:05.000 He or the local sheriff where Terry is should show some backbone or moral courage and defend their life by force if necessary, as I would in their position, despite what any court rules.

02:24:14.000 They will have to answer to our Creator if they let her die such a horrible death.

02:24:18.000 Either our Federal or State Constitution condones or sanctions such an act.

02:24:22.000 Stand up, Jeb Bush, onto your road to protect Terry, whatever it takes.

02:24:27.000 Alright, good to hear from you.

02:24:28.000 I appreciate the call, Randy.

02:24:31.000 He's right, and I hope we all get as upset about all the other cases of this that are happening as we've gotten over Terry.

02:24:41.000 Let's go ahead and talk to David in Delaware.

02:24:45.000 Go ahead, David.

02:24:46.000 Yes, sir, Alex.

02:24:47.000 How are you doing today?

02:24:48.000 Good.

02:24:49.000 I just got off the phone a little while ago talking to Michael McCabbage.

02:24:55.000 Repent America?

02:24:56.000 Yes, they were found... All charges dropped.

02:24:58.000 Yeah.

02:24:59.000 Last week... Go ahead.

02:25:02.000 You might tell folks what it has to do with.

02:25:04.000 Okay, it was dealing with the...

02:25:07.000 Sunday October the 10th of 2004 in Philadelphia when they had a protest up there and there was also some homosexuals up there. 0.62

02:25:18.000 I have the paperwork in front of me, but I'd have to look to see what all... No, I mean, we talked about it last week, and we talked about it yesterday.

02:25:25.000 For those who don't know, they were going to get 47 years in prison.

02:25:28.000 47 years in prison, yes.

02:25:29.000 For praying on the street corner.

02:25:31.000 They had videos, they touched no one, didn't raise their voices, but it was being called terrorism.

02:25:37.000 Yes.

02:25:38.000 Because they were praying, that might hurt someone's feelings.

02:25:41.000 And the federal prosecutors advised the city, under Bush, Bush's prosecutors to try to put them in prison and thank God under public pressure the judge had to drop it.

02:25:52.000 The point is, this shows what they're trying to do.

02:25:56.000 He also mentioned that if you were getting in touch with him, if you wanted him to interview you or interview him, feel free to call him.

02:26:06.000 Right now he's resting up, getting ready for the Lawsuit, I guess it is, and paired with the... Yeah, we had them on about three times during the whole fight, and we're going to have them back on during their lawsuit.

02:26:17.000 Right.

02:26:18.000 Okay, so another thing is, about seven years ago, give or take, reference to chemtrails, I only live about 20 miles from Dover Air Force Base, and the jets are messing up our sky daily.

02:26:34.000 The sky, and like I say, we've lost probably 20 or 30 percent of our daylight, And are the chemtrails... Sir, did you know that the Earth, according to the BBC and NASA, is measurably darker?

02:26:47.000 Oh, yes.

02:26:49.000 Also, about seven or eight years ago, or six, whatever it was, the hospitals were filled up with people with asthma, bronchitis, other different problems.

02:26:58.000 And I mentioned, don't go outside unless you had to.

02:27:01.000 And also people were dying because of that.

02:27:04.000 The gases and so forth.

02:27:06.000 I have asthma myself.

02:27:08.000 I know what effect it does to people with asthma.

02:27:11.000 It makes you shortness of breath and so forth.

02:27:14.000 Well, I know this.

02:27:15.000 Until five, six years ago, trails didn't form at 2,000, 3,000 feet.

02:27:19.000 They didn't stay there for five hours.

02:27:22.000 Now they do.

02:27:24.000 The earth is getting darker from it.

02:27:25.000 Even MainSpring News says that jet trails are doing it.

02:27:28.000 What has changed in our atmosphere?

02:27:30.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:31.000 Thanks for the great points.

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02:30:54.000 Very interesting news report today on the Toronto Star.

02:31:16.000 I wanted to mention this again.

02:31:17.000 The top U.S.

02:31:20.000 envoy to Canada over this situation trying to sell them on going under the U.S.

02:31:27.000 missile defense plan

02:31:32.000 said to them hey on 9-11 it was a Canadian general who gave the order to launch the F-16s to go and intercept and shoot down flight 93 that was going towards DC but the official story is that wasn't shot down and Rumsfeld twice has said on television that they shot it down and then he he turns red and then just moves on he no one ever calls him on it and uh... this envoy

02:32:03.000 Paul Salucci compared the situation to one that occurred during 9-11 terrorist attacks on the U.S.

02:32:10.000 He noted that it was a Canadian general at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

02:32:16.000 President George W. Bush to shoot down an hijacked commercial airliner headed for Washington.

02:32:23.000 Very, very interesting.

02:32:26.000 And I didn't know it was a Canadian general.

02:32:27.000 I thought it was the head of NORAD that was in control of that whole Operation.

02:32:34.000 That was General Myers at the time who got promoted.

02:32:40.000 He got promoted after 9-11 to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

02:32:45.000 Let's now go back to the calls.

02:32:48.000 Let's talk to Megan in Pennsylvania.

02:32:50.000 Megan, go ahead. 0.70

02:32:50.000 Welcome. 0.70

02:32:51.000 Hi, thanks Alex.

02:32:52.000 It's good to talk to you again.

02:32:53.000 You must be getting popular because it's hard to get through on the phone now.

02:32:56.000 It's always been hard to get through if I'm taking calls.

02:33:01.000 But that's good.

02:33:02.000 I just had a couple things.

02:33:03.000 The thing you were talking about with the citizen spies, I have an article that I should just mail you, because they're doing a similar thing in a county in Missouri.

02:33:12.000 Every city I know of, and I've seen hundreds of these articles, they've had it in Austin, you go to it and they say, we've got video of it, they say, we're here to fight terrorism, but by ten minutes into it, it's about drugs and guns and...

02:33:29.000 And they're kind of couching this as, you know, this guy is an outside consultant who also happens to be in the Army Reserve at the Fort there in Missouri.

02:33:37.000 But, you know, he's saying things in the article about how we have homegrown terrorists who are willing to blow themselves up and whether they're Aryan Nation or environmentalists, you need to keep your eyes open.

02:33:49.000 And what are there?

02:33:50.000 A couple cases a year of some punk kid burning up some SUVs or burning up a house or something, which is bad, but you've always got nuts. 0.99

02:33:59.000 Or, you know, the Aryan Nations might kill one black person or one Jew a year or something. 0.97

02:34:05.000 It's not like it's some epidemic, but exactly. 0.99

02:34:08.000 We've got homegrown terrorists and this is how you spot them, you know.

02:34:11.000 Right.

02:34:12.000 And, you know, with the torture thing, There was a terrible thing that happened here in Philadelphia.

02:34:17.000 About a month ago, they arrested that little 10-year-old girl for having scissors in her book bag, right?

02:34:22.000 Well, last week, they arrested three 9-year-old girls because one of them had brought a can from home that she thought was a can of perfume, and it turned out it was mace.

02:34:31.000 So they arrested these three little girls, handcuffed them to each other, took them to the police station, and did not tell their parents anything until the parents came to pick the kids up from school.

02:34:40.000 And, of course, they were in tears, and the police department says they're going to find out what went wrong.

02:34:46.000 Well, I've got a report here where they're trying to criminally charge a 13-year-old for shooting a rubber band in class.

02:34:53.000 And that's the thing that's getting to me, is that they're really going after the kid.

02:34:56.000 Look, look, look, they're threatening to kick New York children out of school because they told them, write letters to the troops, they wrote letters, no profanity, just we don't agree with the war, and they've made them apologize or they're expelled for what they wrote.

02:35:09.000 Yeah, well, I guess I would I'm just going to say a couple things about what, you know, people feel like they maybe can't do anything or whatever, but what my husband and I do is we keep a big file folder, kind of like you have when you're in your videos, and whatever thing seems to make sense to somebody as being a bad idea, like the New Freedom Initiative or too many vaccines for kids, that's the group of articles that we give somebody who might be moderately interested, and maybe you plant the seed.

02:35:37.000 I gave a book, I gave the book True Lies to a school teacher that I know.

02:35:41.000 Have you read that by the Guerrilla News Network?

02:35:45.000 No, I haven't.

02:35:46.000 They did excellent coverage on the DU, the anthrax vaccine, Valerian being given to the troops.

02:35:52.000 And so I may not be able to stop somebody that I know from signing up for the Army, but she's actually using this in her classes in a high school that I won't say where it is, to teach the kids about What's going on?

02:36:04.000 So I hope that maybe...

02:36:05.000 Well, we have to.

02:36:06.000 Listen, they let all the recruiters in there have test scores, the names.

02:36:10.000 They give them the military test.

02:36:12.000 In their recruiting, your children, and they admit that they lied to them on the contracts.

02:36:18.000 They tell them, oh, you won't be in for more than two years.

02:36:20.000 Now it'll be unlimited, even if you sign up for the guard.

02:36:24.000 They give them experimental vaccines that it's illegal to give them without their prior consent.

02:36:29.000 They still do it.

02:36:30.000 They make them breathe the depleted uranium.

02:36:32.000 And the young people need to be told about this.

02:36:35.000 Yes, I'm glad she's doing that.

02:36:36.000 And one other thing that you might want to look into, they're talking about within the next 18 to 24 months, there was just an article that came out last week, if you Google nuclear tests, 2005 they want to start reusing the Nevada test site for underground testing and so.

02:36:52.000 Well at least they're not doing above ground like they used to.

02:36:55.000 Right not yet but it would be very interesting if they do that when they have a bunch of uranium dump there on Yucca Mountain and they start blowing it up underground too.

02:37:04.000 It's a pretty scary situation.

02:37:07.000 Who knows?

02:37:09.000 Thanks for what you're doing.

02:37:10.000 Hey, thank you for the call.

02:37:12.000 Let's talk to HW in Colorado.

02:37:14.000 HW, welcome.

02:37:16.000 HW, Colorado here.

02:37:18.000 Alex, I haven't talked to you for a while.

02:37:21.000 I wonder if 1360 is synchronized with your telephone right now.

02:37:27.000 I heard too many things on the radio.

02:37:29.000 I'm a little thrown off, maybe.

02:37:32.000 I totally don't understand anything you're saying.

02:37:35.000 You do not understand?

02:37:36.000 You mean here?

02:37:39.000 I mean, sir, you're just, you talk, please, I'm sorry, I just, I'm having trouble.

02:37:45.000 It is an ordinary landline.

02:37:47.000 I do not understand why you do not hear.

02:37:51.000 I do hear you.

02:37:52.000 I don't understand what you're saying.

02:37:54.000 Well, the radio I heard was 1360 AM, and it was not the same show that I got on the phone.

02:38:04.000 So I'm a little thrown off with the top.

02:38:06.000 No, that's because there's a delay.

02:38:08.000 Oh, no, it was more than a delay.

02:38:11.000 Maybe an hour or two.

02:38:13.000 Anyway, when I got excited was when I heard you talk about trillions of dollars there may disappear.

02:38:27.000 And I just wanted to introduce Murphy's Law.

02:38:31.000 Now, what if people Uh, would start printing money.

02:38:36.000 Of course, uh, by Murphy's Law, if something could go wrong, it would go wrong.

02:38:42.000 You know it?

02:38:44.000 Yes, I know Murphy's Law.

02:38:45.000 Right.

02:38:46.000 So, and the listeners do too.

02:38:49.000 Most common.

02:38:49.000 So, if somebody was allowed to print money and con you into accepting it, then things would go all wrong.

02:38:57.000 Right?

02:38:59.000 Alrighty.

02:39:00.000 Yeah.

02:39:01.000 Now, that's where we are.

02:39:03.000 Uh, there's two kinds of people in the world.

02:39:06.000 The one kind that works and gotta produce and even that is sinning and ripping up the earth like putting a nuclear bomb underground.

02:39:16.000 That's probably worse than on top of it, but uh... What does that have to do with 2.4 trillion missing from the Pentagon?

02:39:24.000 That's just what I say.

02:39:25.000 Murphy's Law means that things go wrong whenever people do things.

02:39:31.000 Well, the government is always going to do bad things.

02:39:33.000 That's just history.

02:39:35.000 Right. 1.00

02:39:36.000 But we've been taught that that isn't the case, and that's pure idiocy. 0.99

02:39:39.000 H.W., good hearing from you. 0.99

02:39:41.000 Glad you're tuning in.

02:39:42.000 God bless.

02:39:42.000 Ron in New York.

02:39:44.000 Ron, go ahead.

02:39:44.000 Alex.

02:39:46.000 Yes, sir.

02:39:46.000 How you doing?

02:39:47.000 I'm doing a radio show.

02:39:48.000 I'm doing alright.

02:39:49.000 How are you doing?

02:39:50.000 Eric, tell me what's right or wrong about this.

02:39:52.000 Don't we need an organized network where we're all coordinated together?

02:39:57.000 We know what each one of us is doing.

02:39:59.000 That there's kind of an organized... No, there's a problem with that.

02:40:03.000 Because then it's easier to infiltrate, easier to spread this info.

02:40:07.000 It's good to have lots of individuals out there doing different things, being leaders themselves, setting up their own organizations, and training others how to be leaders.

02:40:16.000 We actually need more leaders in this fight to go out and wake up other people, and to pick a few issues they want to deal with.

02:40:24.000 The second part of this is when these people decide to pull the plug and use their physical prowess against us, Don't we need to have key, influential, and powerful people in government, police, and military to counteract and countermand them?

02:40:40.000 Well, we do!

02:40:41.000 I mean, there's quite a few congressmen and people that go public on all this police state and say it's the end of America.

02:40:47.000 And there's people who speak up and get involved.

02:40:49.000 The media doesn't give them a lot of attention.

02:40:51.000 And, uh, they've already pulled the plug.

02:40:53.000 They're already using force on us.

02:40:55.000 They're training us that torture's good.

02:40:57.000 They're training us that we don't have any due process.

02:40:59.000 They're training us that secret arrest is good.

02:41:01.000 I mean, look, it's all slow motion tyranny.

02:41:05.000 You know, Pastor Butch mentioned a particular colonel.

02:41:08.000 He doesn't have to be named here, but if something was supposed to go down in January, he had said, and his comment was nothing huge in January.

02:41:17.000 He wanted prayers for it.

02:41:18.000 Of course, it didn't happen.

02:41:20.000 But this is what some people are wondering about.

02:41:22.000 Are some of these influential military hierarchy on the side of the people in this?

02:41:31.000 That when it really comes down, when push comes to shove, these people will come on the side of God, country, and family here?

02:41:39.000 That's a good question.

02:41:41.000 Thanks for the call.

02:41:43.000 If it was deliberate enough, if it was open enough, the tyranny, the corruption, the expansion of the despotism was big enough, and people weren't conditioned to a great extent, then you might see more organized resistance in high-level quarters of government.

02:42:01.000 But it's so incremental, you really don't.

02:42:04.000 I mean, we see people leaking documents, we see people going public, we see all sorts of things happening.

02:42:12.000 Prominent members of the government blowing the whistle on lies.

02:42:17.000 On insider trading, and scams, and lies in 9-11, and just all of this.

02:42:23.000 But still, because the courts are so controlled by the corrupt interest, no one is prosecuted, no one's brought to justice.

02:42:31.000 A good thing to ask is, could we get a state or federal grand jury, which they have the power to do, to call for indictments?

02:42:39.000 I mean, we had a grand jury in Arkansas, they picked a petty issue, lying to a court, you know, petty compared to some of the other stuff, to call Bill Clinton into court!

02:42:52.000 In the deposition!

02:42:54.000 And, uh, we've had White House officials lie under oath about 9-11.

02:42:59.000 Connelisa Rice has said she never got a memo about plans to fly planes into buildings, and now that memo's public.

02:43:05.000 And we know she lied about it from day one.

02:43:07.000 Well, why not drag her up there and do that? 1.00

02:43:10.000 Or Rumsfeld underwrote to Congress saying, they've got weapons of mass destruction, we know where they are.

02:43:16.000 How about indicting him?

02:43:19.000 And believe me, that'd bring this government down real quick.

02:43:21.000 But look, you could bring this government down today.

02:43:23.000 It's like shark teeth.

02:43:26.000 There's a whole other row of these people to step into their place. 0.99

02:43:29.000 Bush is a puppet. 1.00

02:43:30.000 Rice is a puppet. 1.00

02:43:31.000 Rumsfeld's a puppet. 0.99

02:43:32.000 Earl's a puppet.

02:43:34.000 It's these global interests, these global corporations that aren't free market, They're crime syndicates and they own the politicians like so many pieces of eight in their pocket.

02:43:45.000 Now by punishing their puppets politically, then the next group of puppets may be a little bit more careful about it.

02:43:52.000 And may go a little bit slower.

02:43:53.000 We've got to ask ourselves, why is government so arrogant?

02:43:58.000 On every issue.

02:43:59.000 Oh, 87% of you want us to control the borders.

02:44:02.000 Well, we're just getting rid of them.

02:44:03.000 Oh, 65% don't want gun control.

02:44:06.000 Well, we're still going to do it.

02:44:08.000 You know, 60-something percent are against abortion.

02:44:10.000 We're still gonna do it.

02:44:13.000 Oh, you're against toll roads.

02:44:15.000 You know, 98% of you.

02:44:16.000 Well, we're still gonna do it.

02:44:18.000 Try to vote us out.

02:44:19.000 Ha ha ha! 1.00

02:44:20.000 We got that new special voting machine, idiot! 1.00

02:44:24.000 That's why, folks. 1.00

02:44:25.000 That's why they're really arrogant.

02:44:27.000 I've got USA Today here in front of me.

02:44:30.000 Where all over the country, in one particular case, where they just told the whole neighborhood A hundred-year-old houses, beautiful homes, worth about two hundred grand apiece.

02:44:39.000 Middle-class people, they just said, we're taking your whole neighborhood because developers gave us campaign contributions and they want that land for bigger houses.

02:44:47.000 You know, it's not for a road or even a shopping mall now.

02:44:50.000 It's just, we're just taking it.

02:44:51.000 And by the way, we're not going to pay you just compensation for that.

02:44:58.000 The Supreme Court's hearing the case right now.

02:45:01.000 Supreme Court two years ago ruled they can take your land without just compensation.

02:45:04.000 We'll see what they do in this particular case.

02:45:06.000 I mean, that's why they're getting so arrogant.

02:45:11.000 Rob in Wyoming.

02:45:12.000 Rob, go ahead.

02:45:14.000 Alex, about July, I sent three of your videos on a six-hour tape to the governor of Wyoming, Governor Friedenthal, because I'd heard him say that he didn't want to vote for Bush because he was concerned about the Patriot Act.

02:45:27.000 Uh, his policy manager, uh, can I give her name or not?

02:45:31.000 Would you rather not?

02:45:31.000 Well, these are public figures, sir.

02:45:33.000 Yeah, I figured that's right.

02:45:33.000 But since you said it, just don't give it.

02:45:35.000 I mean, I don't, you know.

02:45:36.000 Well, that's the way I see it, but you know, I wanted to check with you first.

02:45:39.000 We don't have a lot of time, though.

02:45:40.000 What's going on?

02:45:41.000 Okay, anyway, so now I read on the front page of the Casper Star Tribune, Friday 18th, I believe, of this month, uh, the propaganda outlet.

02:45:50.000 That they're building an urban warfare mock city.

02:45:54.000 After the governor has admitted he's watched this video, he's allowing this mock city urban warfare camp in Guernsey, Platte County, Wyoming.

02:46:02.000 Now I've tried to get the policy manager By the way, they're building these camps all over the country.

02:46:12.000 They're not just training centers.

02:46:15.000 I want to commend you for giving the videos.

02:46:17.000 I've handed out over a hundred of your videos.

02:46:19.000 So you talk to their policy person, what do they say?

02:46:22.000 Well, she didn't know about it.

02:46:23.000 She says she doesn't know about it.

02:46:25.000 She herself admits she's watched the video too and admits that it's very concerning.

02:46:29.000 She keeps saying, what on earth can the governor do about it?

02:46:32.000 And I'm like, you're joking, right?

02:46:34.000 And now she refuses to call back to acknowledge that this camp is being built and the governor... Well, I think it's amazing that you got the governor's assistant to say she watched it and that she's concerned.

02:46:45.000 I mean, that sounds like you're getting some real... I don't think so.

02:46:48.000 Not when the camp's going in.

02:46:49.000 This state only has half a million people.

02:46:51.000 But you can't talk to the governor.

02:46:53.000 So I want everybody to call Governor Friedenthal in Wyoming and demand that this terrorist training camp be removed.

02:46:59.000 Knowing that the government is the terrorists.

02:47:01.000 It's a joke!

02:47:04.000 We've got to build lots of these camps to train people to fight the terrorists.

02:47:08.000 Yeah, I've got the numbers.

02:47:10.000 But we can't spend that money on the border.

02:47:12.000 Can I give out the numbers for people to call?

02:47:14.000 Sure.

02:47:14.000 Okay.

02:47:15.000 This is her cell phone, 307... Wait a minute, I don't want to give out some... One of his staffers... Hold on a minute.

02:47:21.000 You want to give the governor's public number out, you can, but I don't want to give out some assistant's cell phone.

02:47:26.000 That's fine, it's the number they gave me, but here's the regular number, 777-7434, area code 307.

02:47:33.000 Tell him, get this training camp out of our state.

02:47:36.000 Just so you know, you said that so fast, nobody got it.

02:47:39.000 Okay, area code 307-777-7434.

02:47:45.000 And she is a public figure and there's no reason not to give her name. 0.90

02:47:49.000 Yeah, that's fine.

02:47:50.000 Whether I asked or not has nothing to do with whether it's okay to give her name.

02:47:53.000 Well, you're the one that brought it up, brother.

02:47:54.000 Well, if I gave her name ahead of time, you'd be mad at me for You're blurting it out without checking.

02:48:00.000 No, I'm not.

02:48:01.000 None of it's public.

02:48:01.000 I agree.

02:48:03.000 Beth Worthen is her name.

02:48:04.000 Yeah, but I mean that's not even the issue.

02:48:07.000 I agree.

02:48:08.000 Sounds like she's talking to you.

02:48:11.000 She's placating me is what she's doing.

02:48:13.000 It's been over a week.

02:48:14.000 She still can't get back to me to tell me, yes, the governor's aware that the government was behind 9-11, but he's still building an 11-building mock city.

02:48:24.000 And it says in the article, it's good for the economy at Guernsey, and it can be just as easily used against... Now wait a minute, did she say the government knows the government was... She said she saw the video, she doesn't argue with it, she has nothing to dispute about the facts in it.

02:48:37.000 And she says the government... Well, I would just say good job to you.

02:48:40.000 We'll be back, stay with us.

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02:51:40.000 I got a star in my car.

02:51:53.000 Mark in Rhode Island, you're on the air.

02:51:55.000 Welcome, go ahead.

02:51:57.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call.

02:51:59.000 You bet.

02:52:00.000 I know you were talking about the Canadian response to us about being part of the Air Defense, the NATO thing.

02:52:10.000 Is that what that was?

02:52:11.000 Not NATO, not the North Atlantic Defense Organization.

02:52:15.000 I'm talking about North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

02:52:18.000 We're talking about NORAD.

02:52:21.000 Okay.

02:52:22.000 That's right.

02:52:23.000 And in there, the U.S.

02:52:25.000 Envoy to Canada, if I can just read his quote, he compared the situation to one that occurred during 9-1-1 terrorist attacks.

02:52:34.000 On the U.S., he noted that it was Canadian General at NORAD who scrambled military jets under orders from U.S.

02:52:39.000 President George Bush.

02:52:41.000 Well, Bush says he never ordered it, to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington.

02:52:46.000 Well, they didn't shoot it down.

02:52:49.000 Right.

02:52:50.000 Alex, did you know that he, uh, that man, Paul Solucci, was a former governor of Massachusetts?

02:52:57.000 I did, yes.

02:52:58.000 Oh, okay.

02:53:00.000 Yeah.

02:53:00.000 He was the former governor back in the late 90s, and he was very close with the Bush family, I believe, and the Republican Party.

02:53:08.000 Yes.

02:53:10.000 Hey, one other thing, Alex.

02:53:11.000 I haven't heard Paul Watson on for a while.

02:53:13.000 Is he still around?

02:53:16.000 He's always busy doing stuff.

02:53:16.000 Ask Paul.

02:53:18.000 I ask him to come on the show routinely.

02:53:20.000 Alex, do you remember that show back in the 60's called The Prisoner?

02:53:20.000 Okay.

02:53:24.000 Yes, I do.

02:53:25.000 I saw an episode.

02:53:27.000 It's full of Illuminati symbols.

02:53:29.000 I just throw it in your face there as well.

02:53:31.000 Yeah.

02:53:32.000 Patrick McGowan, who's the star of the show, was sitting down with number two.

02:53:36.000 He's number six.

02:53:38.000 And number two says to him, we'd like to create This global village, but on a worldwide scale.

02:53:46.000 That's our dream.

02:53:48.000 Yeah, and the village, it's funny you mention that.

02:53:51.000 I actually bought it on DVD.

02:53:52.000 It was very expensive.

02:53:54.000 Just because it's such an amazing series.

02:53:58.000 And yeah, it's a mine control village run by the New World Order where they test mass mine control to then expand it worldwide.

02:54:05.000 Exactly.

02:54:06.000 Alex, thank you very much.

02:54:07.000 Keep up the fight.

02:54:08.000 Alright, I really do appreciate your call.

02:54:11.000 Yeah, they do flaunt it in our faces via these different TV shows, and we need to be aware of this.

02:54:20.000 They use television to basically condition us, and it's very widespread.

02:54:28.000 And so when you watch television, you literally go into a sleep mode.

02:54:31.000 Your brainwaves, for an adult after 30 minutes on average, with a child in about 5 minutes, these are scientific studies.

02:54:38.000 You go into a sleep mode.

02:54:40.000 You are mesmerized or daydreaming.

02:54:43.000 And it all goes right into your subconscious.

02:54:45.000 No critical thinking blocks it out.

02:54:48.000 And it's mind control.

02:54:50.000 And you need to be aware of that when you're watching one of my films, or you're watching Peter Jennings or Brian Williams.

02:54:56.000 You need to be aware of that.

02:55:00.000 And we try to get you to be aware of it.

02:55:02.000 You know, we say, don't believe anything we say here.

02:55:04.000 Check it out for yourself.

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Alex Jones Show - February 24, 2005

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