Alex Jones Show - 20050303_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:41.000 It's already Thursday, the third day of March 2005.

00:00:46.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:50.000 That Globe and Mail reporter who wrote the story about Hunter S. Thompson reportedly telling him that he was planning to put out a book Concerning government involvement in 9-11, he has confirmed that he did talk to Hunter S. Thompson, that he was friends with him, that Hunter S. Thompson was talking about such things.

00:01:15.000 But he goes on to say maybe it was a suicide.

00:01:20.000 So we'll be talking to that gentleman coming up in the next hour.

00:01:23.000 I want to take your calls, in fact I want to take a bunch of your calls in this first hour.

00:01:30.000 And sometimes I do a good job of this, other times I don't.

00:01:33.000 But I'm going to control myself today.

00:01:35.000 I am going to come back after this quick break, cover just some of the news, some of the important news, some of the interesting news.

00:01:43.000 Then we're going to go straight to your phone calls.

00:01:46.000 But I'm going to give each caller about a minute, and then I'll comment for about 30 seconds.

00:01:52.000 I'm going to control myself.

00:01:54.000 Or if you have a question, I will limit myself to about a minute.

00:01:57.000 We'll move to the next person, because so many people have tried countless times to get into this broadcast, and they have been unsuccessful.

00:02:05.000 So, here is the toll-free number to get involved on air.

00:02:08.000 Kind of open line Thursday here.

00:02:11.000 Whatever issue you'd like to discuss, zero censorship will get you up and on the air.

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00:02:18.000 1-800-259-9231.

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00:02:19.000 And we'll get you up and on the air.

00:02:21.000 Some good news, California's Spy Chip ID card ban.

00:02:23.000 1-800-259-9231, and we'll get you up and on the air.

00:02:31.000 Some good news, California's spy chip ID card ban.

00:02:36.000 Just like four states, now about to be five states, and hundreds of cities have thrown out the Patriot Act, now a bill's been introduced in California.

00:02:46.000 Lord Schwarzenegger will try to block it, don't worry.

00:02:49.000 He banned the state putting the spy chips in the driver's license through the federal law that has passed the House and is now in the Senate of the United States Congress.

00:03:00.000 Of course, they passed the basic national ID card law last year, but now they're trying to radically expand it.

00:03:09.000 We'll tell you about that.

00:03:10.000 North Korea makes missile test threat.

00:03:14.000 uh... interesting article about what the vaccines are doing to the children several articles on this uh... that uh... will be going over and uh... teen tracker cell phones used to track teens every day i see an article promoting how cell phones track children and teens and how good it is folks all cell phones are tracked you can go to websites

00:03:42.000 And enter somebody's phone number, if you have it, and then on a grid it'll show you where they are at all times.

00:03:52.000 By law, all cell phones have this.

00:03:54.000 But see, they introduce it as if it's for the children.

00:03:57.000 They're not telling you about it in the news.

00:03:59.000 Oh, it's for the children.

00:04:01.000 It's for you, too.

00:04:02.000 So I'll tell you about the plans and what it's going to be like under this.

00:04:07.000 Also, ABC News, Robots to Watch Children Showcase.

00:04:13.000 And the Pentagon announced two weeks ago, 70 plus billion dollars a year for robotic armies, ground-based and air-based systems that can be controlled by a tiny elite.

00:04:28.000 Which is exactly what the globalists have always been after.

00:04:32.000 That's just some of the news that is coming up, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:37.000 Please stay with us.

00:04:40.000 And again, we've got that guest, who's one of the last people to talk to, Hunter S. Thompson, coming on the broadcast.

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00:08:06.000 We're going to have wide open phones throughout the broadcast today on this live Thursday edition.

00:08:24.000 Thank you.

00:08:25.000 By the way, I've had a lot of requests for it, so tomorrow I'm going to re-air that interview we did with the scholar, the professor, out of Canada, studying all of the occult symbolism in the government buildings there, especially one of their legislature's capitals.

00:08:50.000 So, that's coming up in the second half of the broadcast tomorrow for those that missed it, and for the hundreds of requests that I've gotten to re-air it.

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00:09:42.000 It's my best work ever.

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00:10:28.000 By the way, when I get back on Monday, I'm going to go out of town this weekend, I'm going to finish working on authoring the DVD and send it off to be produced Mass-produced in another state and so we're not going to have the DVD for about a month.

00:10:51.000 The DVD is going to have about five minutes of extra stuff on it.

00:10:56.000 It takes time to get DVDs mass-produced.

00:10:59.000 Time we don't have.

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00:13:57.000 I sound a little strange today.

00:13:59.000 I guess I push myself too hard.

00:14:02.000 When I woke up this morning, after a delicious four hour sleep, it feels like somebody is sticking an ice pick in my back and my ribs.

00:14:12.000 And it actually hurts to breathe, but I keep thinking, I almost thought about canceling the show today.

00:14:18.000 I said, you know, I don't want to do that.

00:14:21.000 I said, this will probably go away, but I don't know.

00:14:26.000 My body's telling me, man, you need to start resting.

00:14:29.000 I really have been working 17 to 18 hours a day the last month.

00:14:34.000 Before that, it was like 60 hours a day.

00:14:36.000 I'm not whining.

00:14:38.000 It's been very rewarding, but it's kind of like, I guess, post-traumatic.

00:14:42.000 Man, as soon as you get the job done, it's just like you collapse.

00:14:46.000 I'm not even tired.

00:14:47.000 It's just my back.

00:14:49.000 You ever have your back hurt where it hurts to breathe?

00:14:52.000 Oh, man.

00:14:53.000 Anyways, let's take some calls.

00:14:55.000 Robert in Ohio.

00:14:56.000 Go ahead, Robert.

00:14:57.000 Hello, Alex.

00:14:58.000 Thank you for being a true patriot.

00:14:59.000 I've got a comment and a question.

00:15:01.000 Welcome.

00:15:02.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, I think the comment is, I think Hillary Clinton's going to go over to the Republican Party so she can win in the Republican Party. 0.81

00:15:08.000 Okay, the question I have is, back in December you talked about a patriot that wrote a book called Alliance.

00:15:14.000 I think Mr. Webb wrote it.

00:15:17.000 Dark Alliance, yes.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, Dark Alliance.

00:15:19.000 I ordered it online.

00:15:20.000 I ordered it through two bookstores.

00:15:22.000 I can't get it.

00:15:22.000 Is there any way that somebody would know how I can get that book?

00:15:28.000 Well, we don't carry Dark Alliance.

00:15:31.000 But, I mean, I guarantee you can get it from Amazon.

00:15:35.000 I guarantee you can get it from Barnes and Nobles.

00:15:37.000 In fact, I haunt the bookstores in my off time.

00:15:41.000 And I have seen copies of Dark Alliance.

00:15:44.000 You might call around to some used bookstores as well.

00:15:47.000 Okay.

00:15:48.000 Okay, thank you very much.

00:15:50.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

00:15:52.000 I'll just say that Hillary Clinton... I disagree with you. 1.00

00:15:56.000 Hillary Clinton will never be a Republican. 1.00

00:15:58.000 Who knows?

00:15:59.000 I never thought we'd see an Austrian who says he wants to be a dictator as governor, so maybe she will.

00:16:04.000 But that is in the cards to run her against Schwarzenegger, and then conservatives will vote for the gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, anti-American thinking they're fighting Hillary. 1.00

00:16:16.000 I will vote for Hillary. 0.99

00:16:18.000 As in, and I can't stand Hillary Clinton, but yes, over some just scumbag who's Kurt Voltheim, his big buddy and his daddy, you know, helped hunt down Americans. 1.00

00:16:30.000 And he says he loves Hitler and makes people get on their knees and call themselves ugly dogs. 0.99

00:16:37.000 That's Parade Magazine reporting on that, Premier Magazine, excuse me. 0.96

00:16:41.000 But I'm not going to put up with it.

00:16:43.000 Let's talk to Robert in Ohio.

00:16:45.000 Robert, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:16:49.000 We already talked to Robert.

00:16:50.000 Andy in Texas.

00:16:51.000 Andy, go ahead.

00:16:52.000 Hey, this is Andy Gonzalez, Texas.

00:16:55.000 I just want to call and just tell you I appreciate, we all appreciate you down here and I just wanted to give you a heads up on a new article I read in a magazine about a company out of Shanghai bought a fiber optic line that crosses the entire globe From one continent to the other.

00:17:15.000 It was owned by another company.

00:17:17.000 Yeah, they bought out Global Crossing, went bankrupt, and the CHICOMS bought it. 0.82

00:17:22.000 Right, right.

00:17:23.000 And the FBI, even the CIA said, we don't want this to happen.

00:17:28.000 They went and made a plea to President Bush, and he said, okay, go ahead and do it.

00:17:32.000 And now they own it for a fraction of what it was originally put up for.

00:17:35.000 It was $247 million, and it was put up for $54 billion.

00:17:41.000 What they do is they built the 66 Earth orbiting satellites that control the GPS system.

00:17:52.000 The Bin Ladens were on the board of the company, then they bankrupted it on purpose and gave it to the government. 0.97

00:17:59.000 So, I mean look, Jimmy Carter gave the Panama Canal to the Communist Chinese, and it could have been blocked, but then in 2000, Bill Clinton let it go forward, the Republican House and Senate voted for it, You've never heard a neocon talk about it?

00:18:14.000 Right.

00:18:15.000 This is a type of traitorous activity.

00:18:17.000 Look, the CFR and other globalist think tanks have said, America is to be dismantled.

00:18:24.000 Okay, by design, we're being brought down.

00:18:26.000 Thanks for the call.

00:18:28.000 That's what the open border is all of it's about.

00:18:30.000 It is by design.

00:18:32.000 We're to be brought down, okay?

00:18:35.000 China will be the world model because they know how to treat their people like slaves. 1.00

00:18:40.000 Andy in Texas, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:18:43.000 I'm sorry I'm dingy, I got these calls out of order.

00:18:46.000 I just talked to Andy.

00:18:47.000 Jimmy in Texas, go ahead Jimmy.

00:18:50.000 Good afternoon, or still not, still morning anyway.

00:18:52.000 Hi Alex, how are you doing?

00:18:54.000 Listen, I printed out the Popular Mechanics quote debunking.

00:19:00.000 Of course they didn't, it was very short in comparison to all the quote conspiracies out there, but I had a specific question.

00:19:08.000 Before I ask you, I'm not impressed with the DOD or the FEMA photos, you know, it's just a bunch of volleying, but last year, I did not notice, last year you had a retired Army Colonel Don DeGranBray?

00:19:22.000 Yes.

00:19:23.000 Okay.

00:19:27.000 What gets me is that basically the rebuttal to that, what he said on your show was that the guy that he said I'm really having trouble following you.

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00:24:08.000 Finish up what you were saying, sir.

00:24:10.000 Okay.

00:24:11.000 Last year, February 2004, you had a retired Army Colonel, Don DeGranpre, saying that Flight 93 was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard.

00:24:21.000 He knew the pilots who fired those missiles.

00:24:23.000 They were sidewinders. 0.99

00:24:25.000 Okay, it was a Major Rick Gidney.

00:24:27.000 Now, Popular Mechanics has a response saying, fact.

00:24:32.000 He was saying that Gidney was reluctant to fuel debate by responding to unsubstantiated charges, he had no comment.

00:24:40.000 Okay, these are the editors of Popular Mechanics.

00:24:44.000 But according to Air National Guard Spokane Master Sergeant David Sumdahl, Gibney flew an F-16 that morning, but nowhere near Shanksville.

00:24:51.000 He was transporting somebody else.

00:24:52.000 Basically, this Master Sergeant is saying that Don de Grand Prix is a liar. - Yeah, actually, Don de Grand Prix did not say Gibney's name on air in the interview they mentioned.

00:25:05.000 If you're specific, if you're looking at the actual article... You're right.

00:25:10.000 You're right.

00:25:10.000 Letroll911.org lied at Grand Prix.

00:25:14.000 They say he's lying.

00:25:16.000 And Don has been very quiet and secretive about which particular pilot.

00:25:23.000 And I find it strange in the article That they say in there that the F-16s were ferrying around FEMA officials.

00:25:32.000 Thanks for the call.

00:25:33.000 I appreciate it.

00:25:34.000 Look, I've talked about this.

00:25:39.000 They also, in the same article, say that there was one F-16 intercept in the decade before September 11th.

00:25:47.000 Uno.

00:25:48.000 And they quote the head spokesman for NORAD.

00:25:54.000 They quote the major.

00:25:56.000 And then we found an Associated Press article.

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00:26:04.000 And you'll get the Associated Press article where he said that they'd done it over 60 times in the year before 9-11.

00:26:11.000 And everybody knows there was more than one F-16 intercept in the decade before 9-11.

00:26:18.000 I mean, you don't have to even go check that out.

00:26:21.000 You've all heard of the plane that gets off course and the F-16s escort it, or you fly over controlled airspace and F-16s escort you.

00:26:29.000 I mean, every pilot listening has all heard about this happening to people or it's happened to them.

00:26:34.000 I mean, it just happened.

00:26:35.000 In fact, now that's actual intercepts.

00:26:37.000 The jet's coming up next to you, threatening to shoot you down.

00:26:40.000 There were hundreds of cases of them being launched.

00:26:43.000 Then they say it took an hour and thirty minutes for the F-16s to get to Golfer Payne Stewart's plane.

00:26:51.000 No.

00:26:53.000 I have the USA Today articles.

00:26:54.000 In fact, I have the new film that just came out.

00:26:57.000 Martial Law.

00:26:59.000 From, you know, the day after it happened.

00:27:01.000 I have a whole bunch of articles.

00:27:03.000 We show like three or four of them in the film.

00:27:06.000 They didn't know the plane was off course until it had taken off in Florida, gotten out of Florida, And about an hour after it took off, they'd lost contact with it, and it wasn't responding to air traffic signals and communications.

00:27:24.000 So then they launched the F-16s, and in 18 minutes, it was surrounded by six F-16s.

00:27:31.000 Now, I got USA Today.

00:27:33.000 So, I mean, whatever.

00:27:34.000 Okay?

00:27:35.000 I just... And that's just... I could keep going on for hours if you'd like.

00:27:40.000 Let's talk to Ed in Pennsylvania.

00:27:41.000 Ed, go ahead.

00:27:42.000 Welcome.

00:27:44.000 Ed just hung up, so we're having fun here.

00:27:47.000 Jason in Maryland.

00:27:48.000 Jason, go ahead.

00:27:50.000 Hi, Alex.

00:27:51.000 I'm calling to talk about the fellow you had on yesterday, Douglas Wohal, or Wuhal, or what was his name?

00:27:58.000 Yes.

00:27:59.000 And he stated yesterday how he believes in the punctuated equilibrium theory.

00:28:04.000 And I wanted to call and let your listeners know just exactly what that is.

00:28:08.000 The Punctuated Equilibrium Theory is also called by its inventor, the Hopeful Monster Theory, which basically states... Well, that's because real scientists cannot... everything that they claimed about evolution is turning out to be untrue.

00:28:23.000 Indeed.

00:28:24.000 And so now they're saying, okay, stuff does happen overnight.

00:28:27.000 But it basically states that one day a lizard laid an egg and an eagle came out.

00:28:27.000 Right.

00:28:33.000 And like you said, it came about because there's no evidence for the theory of evolution.

00:28:37.000 Darwin himself said that the theory would be proven or disproven in one area, the fossil record.

00:28:42.000 And proponents of the theory of evolution know that all the fossils appear in one level of strata.

00:28:47.000 Well, let me just stop you.

00:28:49.000 I mean, we know, you can watch bacteria evolve in a petri dish.

00:28:53.000 So, species do change.

00:28:56.000 But, see, I've never... The globalists set up false debates, okay?

00:29:01.000 Scientists who were atheists Wanted to discredit Christianity, so they set up a debate, and we all joined in on it, and we've played into their plan.

00:29:13.000 Who am I to say how God makes things?

00:29:16.000 Who am I to say how God does things?

00:29:18.000 I know that the official theory of how they say evolution takes place has been totally disproven.

00:29:23.000 But do creatures change?

00:29:27.000 I mean, have humans, because of better diet, gotten an average of like 7 inches taller in the last 100 years?

00:29:34.000 Yes.

00:29:35.000 Can you breed dogs and change their basic looks?

00:29:37.000 Yes.

00:29:38.000 But no, I mean, yeah, you don't have a chicken turn into a dinosaur or a possum turn into a Keebler elf.

00:29:46.000 So, yeah, their big official story is a fraud.

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00:33:29.000 And I've got an article here that was in one of the big Canadian newspapers written by Paul William Roberts who knew Hunter S. Thompson and the story caused some confusion because it was a subscription article and the first part of the article was this quote

00:33:47.000 By Hunter S. Thompson, supposedly mumbling before he hung up the phone saying they're going to kill me and they're going to make it look like a suicide because I'm going to do this story about what really made the towers come down.

00:34:03.000 Then you read into the second part of the article, because I wasn't paid for it, And, uh, well, it says that, yes, he had talked to Hunter S. Thompson, and Hunter S. Thompson was working on some story about 9-11 and the government, and was worried about the government and, quote, engaged in conspiracies.

00:34:20.000 And so, to really get to the bottom of this is Paul William Roberts.

00:34:25.000 Paul, thank you for coming on with us.

00:34:27.000 My pleasure.

00:34:28.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself and for those who don't know who Hunter S. Thompson was and what has happened to him.

00:34:37.000 Well, I'm a writer and work in a similar vein to Thompson in that I write journalism but I sort of insert myself into the story, which is what Hunter Thompson pioneered in his own way.

00:34:57.000 Writing pieces that were ostensibly political, but with himself as the main character.

00:35:03.000 And in some cases, as with the one that was filmed, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, there's nothing other than the story of Hunter Thompson.

00:35:16.000 There's nothing covered in it.

00:35:18.000 So it's more like a novel.

00:35:20.000 He was using the techniques of fiction, you know, to write journalism is essentially what he did.

00:35:27.000 That's interesting.

00:35:28.000 You know, that's kind of what I do in my documentary films.

00:35:30.000 I go out and confront all these government officials and then, you know, it personalizes it and brings a real world flavor to it for people.

00:35:39.000 I know that's kind of what Michael Moore does as well.

00:35:42.000 So Hunter S. Thompson was one of the first in modern times to develop this.

00:35:48.000 He pioneered it.

00:35:49.000 He pushed it a lot further.

00:35:51.000 I mean, the form itself really goes back to the beginning of writing, but he pushed it to another level and made it infinitely more entertaining.

00:36:02.000 And I think in doing so, he captured the interest of a generation that would have otherwise turned away from politics.

00:36:11.000 What were some of the main stands?

00:36:14.000 Obviously Hunter S. Thompson was known for extreme, hardcore drug use, being a wild man.

00:36:19.000 They made a movie about him.

00:36:23.000 Kind of a thumbnail sketch.

00:36:25.000 How would you sum up the life of Hunter S. Thompson?

00:36:27.000 He was first and foremost a journalist.

00:36:30.000 He was a real political junkie.

00:36:32.000 He was obsessed with politics.

00:36:34.000 He lived and breathed it.

00:36:36.000 The drug use is really exaggerated by himself as much as by anybody else.

00:36:44.000 That's a typical technique of writing any form of account.

00:36:52.000 It's an exaggeration to drive home an emotional point.

00:36:58.000 But politics was his abiding obsession.

00:37:03.000 People think of him as an extreme leftist.

00:37:07.000 He wasn't.

00:37:08.000 He was really more of a libertarian.

00:37:10.000 His friends numbered people like Pat Buchanan, as well as people like Allen Ginsberg.

00:37:20.000 Do you have the article you wrote in front of you?

00:37:22.000 Yeah.

00:37:23.000 Do me a favor, read that first paragraph for us.

00:37:26.000 Yeah, it should have been in italics.

00:37:27.000 I don't know whether the version you saw was or not.

00:37:30.000 The first paragraph was italicized so that it separates it from the rest of it.

00:37:36.000 Come to telephone me on February the 19th.

00:37:40.000 The night before his death, he sounded scared, really scared.

00:37:44.000 It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone.

00:37:47.000 He mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did.

00:37:52.000 He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks of September the 11th, and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them, but by explosive charges set off in their foundation.

00:38:08.000 Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing this information.

00:38:11.000 They're going to make it look like suicide, he said. 1.00

00:38:14.000 I know how these bastards think. 0.87

00:38:18.000 And then you go on to say that you talked to him, and indeed he was doing this story, and indeed he was worried about people getting him, but then, but kind of in Hunter S. Thompson flair, though, you kind of congeal it all into this, into this amalgamation in this, in this quote. 0.98

00:38:39.000 I'm sorry?

00:38:40.000 Explain to me then, getting down to the nitty gritty, what did Hunter S. Thompson tell you?

00:38:47.000 Did he tell you that he was doing a story on the Towers?

00:38:51.000 Did he tell you he was afraid?

00:38:55.000 He wasn't afraid.

00:38:56.000 He didn't say he was afraid.

00:38:57.000 He was bothered a lot by people who came around to where he lived because it was well known where he lived and the place was somewhat fortified.

00:39:09.000 But he was working on many things at the same time, among which were, because of his deep loathing for George W. Bush, he became convinced that there was more to the 9-11 attacks than met the eye, as indeed many other people are saying.

00:39:34.000 But there is a whole body of evidence that goes back to the designer of the building.

00:39:42.000 The designer of the building said it was designed to have a plane that size fly into it.

00:39:49.000 It was designed to have two planes?

00:39:52.000 Namuruyama Saki said that also the structural engineers that certified have said that and they all interestingly enough died shortly after they opened their mouths about it little little boo-boos themselves but oh yeah they blew it up I mean you know Larry Silverstein slipped up on PBS and said they blew it up did you know that

00:40:13.000 well it's the way it falls down and the way the other building falls down within sort of 57 seconds and drops straight down on itself men of Buildings like that...

00:40:26.000 Uh, we're designed to come down at all, and it would not drop straight down, you know, and that's, that's the kind of... Well, look at the Madrid building that burned for two days with 100-foot white flames shooting out.

00:40:37.000 Yeah.

00:40:38.000 I mean, some little bitty, uh, you know, window dressing, aluminum melted, and some of the sheetrock's, uh, ceilings fell in, but none of the superstructure, the main supports, buckled.

00:40:49.000 Uh, and in fact, the temperature, uh, inside was not hot, anything like hot enough to melt Uh, the girders.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, steel starts melting at around 3,000 degrees, gets red hot at about 2,500 and starts weakening.

00:41:04.000 And gasoline goes bang, and that's it.

00:41:07.000 Your inferno stops with the explosion.

00:41:10.000 Well, here's the evidence.

00:41:11.000 You had people jumping out, yes, when it was first on fire.

00:41:15.000 When the jet fuel burned out, you saw hundreds of people in the holes in the buildings.

00:41:21.000 Where the quote hottest fires were for 20-30 minutes begging for help.

00:41:24.000 Yeah.

00:41:25.000 So it didn't melt them, but it melted four foot around solid steel beams sprayed with asbestos insulation.

00:41:34.000 Yeah, it's surprising to find that a building like that would come down at all.

00:41:42.000 It was like a metal mesh, like mosquito screening that you throw a dart at.

00:41:51.000 The dart would just stick through a hole.

00:41:55.000 Well, that's what we've actually got that video clip.

00:41:58.000 On the website by one of the chief designers, who's dead now, but well, he won't be talking now.

00:42:03.000 Let's get back to Hunter S. Thompson.

00:42:05.000 So, yes, describe how he lived, because, I mean, I have read he really lived in like an armored compound.

00:42:13.000 Tell us about that.

00:42:15.000 It was somewhat fortified, because he had a fairly crazy following, and people would come prowling around trying to get in.

00:42:27.000 He was also famous for keeping an arsenal of guns there.

00:42:32.000 But he was fairly sensible with guns.

00:42:36.000 And although there was an accident that was made much of, it was actually nothing like it was blown up to be.

00:42:45.000 He was, like anybody who has guns, very, very careful with them.

00:42:52.000 Uh, that's why you can tell that it wasn't an accident when he showed himself.

00:42:57.000 Okay, so he was telling you he was worried about the government, he was telling you that he thought the government was involved, he was doing a story, but in the article you say, but you think he committed suicide.

00:43:10.000 Uh, when he was on the phone to his wife when he did it, I mean, that's the odd part.

00:43:18.000 I don't know what they were talking about.

00:43:20.000 He's saying, come home baby, you're at the gym, and I want you to come home, and then he supposedly shoots himself?

00:43:30.000 I don't know what they were talking about, but I assume it was an argument.

00:43:35.000 Well, that's what it says in the newspaper here.

00:43:37.000 And she heard a noise.

00:43:39.000 She's given two different stories.

00:43:41.000 First, she told a Colorado paper she didn't hear a noise.

00:43:45.000 Then she told another paper she did hear a noise.

00:43:48.000 But the noise she claims she heard doesn't sound to me much like a gun.

00:43:53.000 I mean, you know, a gun.

00:43:55.000 I mean, she describes a sort of clunking noise.

00:43:59.000 Well, that could be a silencer.

00:44:04.000 Well, what do you think happened to Hunter S. Thompson?

00:44:09.000 I think all his life he suffered very badly from arthritis.

00:44:12.000 His left hand was almost deformed and he was in considerable pain.

00:44:18.000 He'd recently broken his hip and his leg.

00:44:24.000 I think he was just miserable with pain and didn't like getting old.

00:44:32.000 But the wife's describing something that didn't sound like a gunshot.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, but again, very few of us have ever heard a gun go off in a room.

00:44:44.000 It's deafening.

00:44:46.000 And the audio fidelity of a telephone is not going to really carry that particularly well.

00:44:52.000 You would probably just hear something like a clunk because it couldn't carry anything like that kind of, you know, the decibels.

00:45:03.000 I don't know about that, but now, what about his final writings?

00:45:06.000 Are we going to get a chance to... Have you talked to any of the family?

00:45:11.000 Are we going to get a chance to see what his 9-11 story was?

00:45:15.000 I don't know what shape that was in, but I think he felt that he'd come to an end of writing about politics.

00:45:25.000 Because the last book on Bush, Hey Rube, it's called...

00:45:32.000 He's almost at a loss for words to describe what he feels about Bush, and the writing is rather poor.

00:45:39.000 In fact, he was working on a film script titled Polo Is My Life, which was a kind of love turned sour story that he was trying to peddle around Hollywood.

00:45:54.000 So possibly he'd given up writing altogether.

00:45:59.000 Well, I know he was still writing for ESPN about the gridiron.

00:46:03.000 Yeah.

00:46:05.000 Yeah.

00:46:06.000 And he did a fair bit of sports writing.

00:46:08.000 That was his other love.

00:46:10.000 I mean, you know, when he met Nixon, they talked about football and nothing else.

00:46:18.000 Well, I guess they've already had the memorial service.

00:46:23.000 Yes.

00:46:23.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 I mean, it was the, you know, quiet family affair.

00:46:29.000 I still don't know whether anybody saw this coming, whether it was totally unexpected.

00:46:36.000 I know the son found the body.

00:46:41.000 And where did Hunter shoot himself?

00:46:43.000 In the head, I think.

00:46:45.000 Do you know where in the head?

00:46:47.000 Through the mouth.

00:46:50.000 Through the mouth?

00:46:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:53.000 Best way to do it.

00:46:55.000 Any other specifics of what he said about 9-11 to you?

00:47:02.000 Only that he was increasingly dubious about what had happened, and the more he looked into it, the more facts emerged.

00:47:14.000 He was in touch with a very wide network of people.

00:47:19.000 He knew an enormous number of people in all walks of life, some of them extremely high And they were agreeing with him?

00:47:30.000 Well, he often wouldn't name sources.

00:47:36.000 And you could tell by the caliber of the information that it was from somewhere fairly high up.

00:47:41.000 But when you put all those facts together, the Pentagon people who have a day off and the security practices that were carried out the week before, there's an awful lot of fishy stuff.

00:47:56.000 And when you look at how swiftly things proceeded afterwards, they were ready for it if they didn't create it.

00:48:05.000 Well, certainly.

00:48:07.000 I was the first person...

00:48:10.000 Two months before 9-11, I said on TV and radio, I said, call the White House.

00:48:14.000 They're going to attack the World Trade Center.

00:48:15.000 Bin Laden, their CIA asset, will take the blame. 0.73

00:48:18.000 And just so you know, because you're a prominent writer, Mr. Roberts, this is what happened on 9-11.

00:48:26.000 They were running drills the month before, the week before, the morning of, of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Sears Tower, and what's that big pointy building in In San Francisco, I always forget the name.

00:48:39.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:48:41.000 They were doing drills of all of that.

00:48:42.000 I have all the documents and I even had this before it was in the Associated Press.

00:48:46.000 They were doing drills of flying those planes into the building so NORAD itself would stand down until the first plane hit.

00:48:52.000 Then Cheney was in control of NORAD three months before he took control from the generals back to just himself.

00:48:59.000 The so-called hijackers were CIA assets who were taking part in live-action drills where they would simulate by putting them on the plane and had air marshals out there testing to see if they'd be able to intercept them.

00:49:13.000 Remember the week before 9-11, James Woods, the actor, was flying from New York to L.A.

00:49:18.000 The plane had stopped in Phoenix.

00:49:19.000 He got off the plane and said, there's five guys.

00:49:21.000 One of them was Muhammad Atta.

00:49:22.000 They're doing some kind of drill of hijacking the plane.

00:49:25.000 The FBI said, shut your mouth, it's national security.

00:49:27.000 So what happened is, they're decoys.

00:49:29.000 They get on, think it's part of a drill.

00:49:31.000 Gas is released, kills everybody on board.

00:49:34.000 Remote control takes control and flies the planes into the buildings.

00:49:37.000 And so that's what happened on 9-11, just in case you wanted to know.

00:49:40.000 Well, that's pretty extraordinary.

00:49:42.000 And I don't doubt that it's true, because I'm, in some of those facts, I'm aware of, but nothing like the rest you just told me.

00:49:52.000 But I mean, there were no Arabs on that plane.

00:49:59.000 Well, according to the official manifest, there are no Arabs because these were officers and they had to keep their names off the list.

00:50:07.000 Their houses, their cars, their credit cards were paid for by the FBI and CIA when they'd leave the country.

00:50:13.000 And the embassies wouldn't let them back in.

00:50:15.000 They would be ordered by the CIA to let them back in.

00:50:18.000 They were trained at U.S.

00:50:19.000 military bases.

00:50:20.000 They were government officers.

00:50:22.000 And they did indeed get on those planes.

00:50:24.000 That's why they have the video of it, but their names were not on the manifest because it was part of a drill.

00:50:29.000 American and United took part.

00:50:32.000 That's why you see only 20% on each of the four planes.

00:50:36.000 Did you know that?

00:50:37.000 No.

00:50:38.000 20% occupancy, yeah.

00:50:39.000 A malfunction at American and United on a day with 80 plus percent occupancy on the East Coast, only 20% on each of the four planes.

00:50:47.000 Right, and the fact that there was no fighter sent up to shoot Not being at least a third one down.

00:50:55.000 Now stay there.

00:50:55.000 Let's talk more about Hunter S. Thompson when we get back.

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00:53:56.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

00:54:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:54:10.000 We have wide open phones today.

00:54:15.000 And we're going to be going to your calls here in just a few minutes.

00:54:20.000 I'll tell you, if our guest would like to ride shotgun with us for another 30 minutes to the next hour, he's welcome to.

00:54:26.000 If he needs to go, he can leave right now.

00:54:28.000 He's Paul William Roberts.

00:54:30.000 He was friends with new Hunter S. Thompson.

00:54:33.000 And, uh, in the days before he died, I've been, you know, talking to him, uh, discussing, well, I think the government was behind 9-11, probably was behind 9-11, I think the, you know, the government might try to get me, this is scary stuff, and then he supposedly commits suicide, and, uh, well, I know Dr. David Kelly, the portin' down bioweapons lab chief, and UN weapons inspectors said the government was lying.

00:54:57.000 I know he said they're gonna kill me and put me in the woods, and then he, Slit his wrist, there was no blood at the scene, undigested pills in his stomach, and people saw men in black uniforms around his body that ran off from the police, but the family says, oh no, it's a suicide!

00:55:10.000 And Gary Webb told people that, yeah, I've been getting threatening calls, and I've been being followed, and people have been sneaking around in my house, and then he shoots himself twice in the head, and the family says, oh, it's a suicide!

00:55:22.000 And Princess Diana says, Prince Charles just told me he's gonna kill me, and it's gonna look like an auto accident, and six months later that she dies in an auto accident.

00:55:30.000 I don't know.

00:55:31.000 I guess it's just all suicide.

00:55:33.000 I mean, maybe some of them are, maybe some of them aren't, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:55:36.000 Do you have any comments on that, Mr. Roberts?

00:55:39.000 Well, I just published a book on the Iraq War.

00:55:42.000 I was there during the bombing and after.

00:55:48.000 I can tell you that everything that came out about that was a tissue of lies.

00:55:54.000 They knew full well, long, long in advance that there were no weapons of mass destruction there because they keep quoting Hussein Camel, Saddam's brother-in-law.

00:56:03.000 About the quantities of toxins that had been amassed.

00:56:08.000 But his own quotes... He also said they'd been destroyed.

00:56:11.000 Well, that's it.

00:56:11.000 His own quotes and testimony where they'd been destroyed in the 91 war and the year after.

00:56:17.000 Right.

00:56:18.000 Right.

00:56:19.000 I mean, they quote the bit they like and they leave out the rest.

00:56:23.000 That'd be like if I said, I love cars.

00:56:28.000 And then, my whole sentence was, I love cars, I like to drive them.

00:56:34.000 It'd be like if they said, I like cars, and they added, and I like to steal them.

00:56:39.000 But I never said I like to steal them, but look, he loves cars, he likes to steal them.

00:56:44.000 I once interviewed Saddam, and at one point he told me that he'd asked a senior American diplomat during the Iran-Iraq War, when he discovered that America was arming both sides He said, off the record, can you tell me who do you want to win this war?

00:57:03.000 And the diplomat replied, off the record, we'd be happy if both sides lost.

00:57:10.000 Which is what happened, of course.

00:57:13.000 So it's all about creating as much destabilization and death and destruction as possible.

00:57:18.000 Well, I mean, chaos, as long as it's somebody else's, is much easier to operate in.

00:57:25.000 I mean, that's why they're trying to force a civil war, because it's a good excuse to carry on with what they want to do there and remain there.

00:57:35.000 So the globalists are bringing order out of chaos?

00:57:41.000 No, I think they're... It's the same process you saw at the end of the British Empire, you know, when Pakistan was created, you know, a country created in two pieces 2,000 miles from each other. 0.70

00:57:53.000 It didn't stand, I hope, in hell of surviving, and stood to be a constant source of trouble for India. 0.99

00:58:00.000 That's what I said.

00:58:05.000 They create the crisis and then bring their order.

00:58:08.000 Yeah.

00:58:09.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:58:11.000 I'd like to hear about your Saddam Hussein interview and talk a little bit more just about yourself.

00:58:16.000 You're a very interesting individual.

00:58:18.000 Can you stay with us into the next hour?

00:58:20.000 I sure can.

00:58:21.000 Alright, we're talking to journalist and writer Paul William Roberts, and we're going to take your calls when we get back on a whole plethora of issues, and I'm sure you can comment on that.

00:58:31.000 Call the free number to join us, 1-800-259-9231.

00:58:32.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and my new film It was done at 4 a.m.

00:58:40.000 this morning and that sucker's gone off of the printers to being mass-produced.

00:58:43.000 So, uh, you can start buying it now if you want. 0.80

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:13.000 All right, folks. folks.

00:59:33.000 We're now into the second hour on this live Thursday edition, Scott, and Matt, and Pam, and Glen, and Ron, everybody, your calls are coming up.

00:59:41.000 We're talking to a renowned journalist and writer, Paul William Roberts, wrote a story for the Globe and Mail up in Canada.

00:59:49.000 where he talked about Hunter S. Thompson before he died mysteriously a few weeks ago, saying he believed the government may have been involved in 9-11 and he was concerned.

00:59:57.000 He lived basically in a little armored compound, and now they're saying he committed suicide.

01:00:00.000 But Paul Roberts has also interviewed people like Saddam Hussein, written on the subject on just this whole global empire.

01:00:09.000 And so we're going to have him with us as long as he'll stay with us.

01:00:12.000 Paul, let's go ahead and take some calls.

01:00:15.000 Sure.

01:00:16.000 Scott in Texas, thanks for holding.

01:00:19.000 You're on the air.

01:00:21.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:00:22.000 Yeah, I was just wondering if you guys might be able to clear up something that I had heard through the journalist Sherman Skolnick.

01:00:29.000 He's reporting that another story that, or book, I don't remember exactly which, that Hunter S. Thompson was working on was about this gay prostitution ring in the White House.

01:00:41.000 And supposedly, that was another touchy topic that he brought out in the hole.

01:00:49.000 Had you heard that from Hunter?

01:00:51.000 Yeah, I'd heard that quite a lot from Hunter.

01:00:56.000 It goes back to Kissinger, I believe.

01:01:00.000 Wow, now that's a big confirmation.

01:01:02.000 Now, for those who don't know, we have Washington Times articles from 1989, you know, underage coal boys in the White House. 0.76

01:01:11.000 And so this is serious.

01:01:13.000 Hunter was working on that.

01:01:15.000 Yeah.

01:01:15.000 In fact, Lyndon LaRouche published some stuff about that.

01:01:19.000 And although a lot of his material was not that trustworthy, in this particular case, there were a lot of sources cited and there was no lawsuit.

01:01:30.000 And with no lawsuit, you can be almost guaranteed that it's true.

01:01:34.000 And I'm wondering if that might not be a hotter issue otherwise, because You know, you get into the Jeff Gannon case, and the whole gay prostitution, that's a national security issue.

01:01:49.000 Well, I mean, Skolnik's saying that now, we're talking about some of the fake reporters, and we know that, again, I haven't confirmed that part of the story, but I'd like to get some confirmation on that.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, and also, it's interesting too, because it dovetails with Uh, tying in Jeff Gannon to possibly being the leak that, you know, leaked the story about Valerie Plame to Robert Novak.

01:02:18.000 Well, let me just add this.

01:02:19.000 I mean, we have the New York Post, top gay porn star services moguls at Bohemian Grove. 0.99

01:02:25.000 I mean, I have parade magazine articles, spy magazine articles from the 80s where, as I said, they bust in the gay prostitutes like beluga caviar for our Christian conservative leaders. 1.00

01:02:36.000 And is that what Hunter S. Thompson was on to? 0.96

01:02:39.000 He certainly knew all about that, and I believe had written about it.

01:02:45.000 I don't know whether there was a book in the works, but he certainly had published columns on it.

01:02:52.000 And supposedly there were some upcoming interviews with Rolling Stone Magazine, although I'm not able to confirm that one or not.

01:03:01.000 Well, it looks pretty suspicious.

01:03:05.000 Man, I tell you.

01:03:07.000 And supposedly CNN did a small report on the Gannon case and they were called by Andrew Card and Card threatened that he would yank their satellite if they continued on with the story.

01:03:23.000 So there's been virtually a media silence on that.

01:03:26.000 On the whole homosexuality. 0.97

01:03:28.000 That's right, CNN uses military satellites.

01:03:32.000 CNN has done an odd sort of turnaround in the last year or so.

01:03:37.000 Yeah, they're pretty neocon now.

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 We'll be right back with our guest, unbelievable.

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01:07:16.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we're back live.

01:07:18.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:07:19.000 8 minutes, 30 seconds into the second hour of the third day of March 2005.

01:07:22.000 Already!

01:07:27.000 The third month of 2005.

01:07:32.000 It is unbelievable.

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01:07:36.000 I tell you, I've been pleasantly surprised by the depth and breadth of knowledge of our guest, who is a renowned journalist, Paul Roberts.

01:07:46.000 Paul William Roberts.

01:07:47.000 And he has his new book out, which has won a lot of big awards, but you can't even get it published here in the U.S., but you can get it over the Internet.

01:07:53.000 A War Against Truth.

01:07:56.000 And he was friends with Hunter S. Thompson, who he talked to before he died and was saying, I believe the government was probably involved in 9-11.

01:08:05.000 The towers, I think I have evidence, were blown up.

01:08:07.000 I mean, we have the owner saying they blew it up.

01:08:11.000 And he was also, we just had a caller brought up what Sherman Skolnick raised.

01:08:17.000 About when I have the Washington Times articles and others from the late eighties, an underage coal boy ring in the White House. 0.98

01:08:23.000 It's like Barney Frank gets caught with the under-aged people and he doesn't get in trouble running a coal center out of his penthouse. 0.94

01:08:34.000 I mean, this is... You talk about just incredible standards.

01:08:38.000 But, you know, for Democrats, you catch a Democratic governor with his boyfriend, he has to leave, but the Republican congressman You know, have got their male mistresses tucked all over the place and everybody knows about it.

01:08:53.000 It's just, don't talk about it or you're an evil liberal! 0.84

01:08:57.000 You know, you talk about the open borders, you're an evil liberal. 0.99

01:08:59.000 You talk about how you're for the Second Amendment, you're an evil liberal. 0.99

01:09:02.000 You talk about how you're against lying and invading countries, you're an evil liberal. 1.00

01:09:05.000 You talk about how you're against torturing people to death, you're an evil liberal. 1.00

01:09:10.000 And it just gets crazier and crazier. 0.83

01:09:11.000 But we're going to go back to your calls, but I want to go back to our guest who, among other things, has interviewed people like Saddam Hussein.

01:09:17.000 I want to get into that with him.

01:09:18.000 and talk about his new book, but continuing with Hunter S. Thompson. 0.71

01:09:21.000 So you can confirm, you talk to him, and of course he'd written about this as well, but specifically he was working on some big stories concerning these male prostitutes in the White House.

01:09:37.000 Can you give us specifics of what he told you?

01:09:39.000 He had all manner of material like that because he'd built up over 40 years, he'd built up quite a network of contacts.

01:09:46.000 He'd been a pilot in the Air Force before that, so he knew how to talk to all kinds of people.

01:09:53.000 I remember as far back as the Kissinger days, him talking about Kissinger meeting boys in, I forget which hotel it was in New York, but it was the same information that Lyndon LaRouche published.

01:10:11.000 And there's never been a lawsuit over it.

01:10:13.000 No, which is a sure sign. 0.98

01:10:15.000 But, I mean, the Republicans could do what they like, and the liberals are dirty commies, you're right. 0.97

01:10:23.000 And, I mean, look at George Bush's father. 0.94

01:10:26.000 He had his mistress with him while he was in China, made sure she got a high position when he came back.

01:10:37.000 And she went everywhere with him.

01:10:40.000 Clinton, you know, has a little, you know, furtive sling in the Oval Office, and the man is crucified.

01:10:50.000 And again, I'm not defending Bill Clinton.

01:10:52.000 He's a corporate shill, but this national schizophrenia is dangerous.

01:10:58.000 Very dangerous.

01:10:59.000 Very dangerous.

01:11:00.000 But, you know, the world is turning its back on America, and another four years of Bush It's going to be disastrous for the country.

01:11:12.000 The Europeans are ignoring every request, every coercion. 0.72

01:11:22.000 And when you think about it, America is doing exactly what the Soviet Union did towards the end, rely totally on big weapons and threats instead of spreading democratic freedoms. 0.75

01:11:37.000 I mean, I watched Bush's speech when he was sworn in a few months ago, and literally he said liberty and freedom.

01:11:48.000 He said liberty 24 times, freedom I think 16 times.

01:11:54.000 He said tyranny like 14 times.

01:11:56.000 We actually counted it up and put it in this new film I came out with.

01:11:59.000 And he talked about spreading freedom.

01:12:01.000 They put the Ba'athists back in. 1.00

01:12:04.000 They're running torture chambers everywhere.

01:12:06.000 The troops are sleeping in their tanks.

01:12:09.000 I mean, it is a total fraud!

01:12:12.000 And they have the nerve to accuse other people of human rights abuses.

01:12:17.000 Oh, by the way, the Army's own report Says that they did things with battery acid that Jeffrey Dahmer did.

01:12:23.000 Literally.

01:12:24.000 Jeffrey Dahmer would take acid and do things to people in their orifices.

01:12:29.000 And this is what our CIA torture people do.

01:12:32.000 I mean, this is insane!

01:12:34.000 I mean, in one year they managed to do everything that Saddam had ever done to his people. 0.58

01:12:40.000 Except he'd done it over 30 years.

01:12:44.000 And again, Saddam was our boy. 0.66

01:12:47.000 That was definitely your boy, yeah.

01:12:51.000 And even the Kuwait war.

01:12:54.000 The last meeting he has with a senior American official with April Glaspy, the ambassador of Baghdad, just before the invasion of Kuwait.

01:13:02.000 Yeah, go ahead and invade! 0.95

01:13:04.000 We don't have any agreements with Kuwait! 0.95

01:13:07.000 She says three times to him, Secretary of State James Baker has told me to tell you we have no opinion on your Arab-Arab dispute.

01:13:15.000 We will not get involved in inter-Arab affairs.

01:13:18.000 Right.

01:13:18.000 And he tells her three times he's going to resort to a military solution.

01:13:24.000 And when she defended herself in the New York Times, because she was scapegoated at one point, she said that nobody, no analyst, whether in Riyadh or in Washington, thought that Saddam would take all of Kuwait, by which you can infer that it would have been okay if he'd taken part of Kuwait.

01:13:42.000 Well, number one, Kuwait was always part of what Iraq is today. 0.73

01:13:46.000 The British just carved it up. 0.93

01:13:48.000 Right.

01:13:49.000 In a legitimate territorial dispute they had, the Kuwaitis owed him a lot of money for defending them against the Iranians. 0.85

01:13:56.000 But then they hired a big PR firm with a daughter of a PR firm owner who'd never even been in Kuwait and she's standing up there.

01:14:06.000 I saw the incubators, the babies, and that's now admitted to be a total lie.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, but it's an old story from the First World War, I believe.

01:14:15.000 The Germans were supposed to have hurled Belgian babies out of incubators, but nothing of the sort happened.

01:14:23.000 Well, it's the same M.O.

01:14:24.000 with W.M.D.

01:14:25.000 Now they say, though, I've got Rumsfeld on tape on Face the Nation.

01:14:28.000 He said, I never said it was about weapons of mass destruction.

01:14:30.000 That's an urban legend, a conspiracy.

01:14:32.000 And then we've got 50 clips of him saying it.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, like it's nothing to do with oil, right?

01:14:38.000 But, I mean, they have the nerve to say we never said it was about W.M.D.

01:14:42.000 It was about spreading democracy. 0.99

01:14:45.000 I mean, how dumb do they think we are? 0.99

01:14:48.000 We all remember them saying that. 0.99

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 Well, after the war, you spread the demography.

01:14:54.000 I mean, the idea that the whole country is going to be... that you've been bombing consistently virtually every day for 13 years is going to be happy to see your soldiers. 0.83

01:15:06.000 But I couldn't believe how badly treated the American troops were over there.

01:15:10.000 I mean, when they arrived in Baghdad, they hadn't showered in three months.

01:15:13.000 They hadn't called home.

01:15:15.000 I didn't know where they were.

01:15:17.000 I felt really sorry for them and they were pissed off.

01:15:20.000 By the way, that's not a joke.

01:15:21.000 We've had the troops on air.

01:15:22.000 It's been in the news.

01:15:24.000 They get one meal a day, unless they pay for their meals.

01:15:28.000 They're told they have to then wash their clothes, and Halliburton charges them for that.

01:15:32.000 If they get a leg blown off, they discharge them at Rammstein, then they have to pay.

01:15:36.000 Families have to get together and, you know, have potluck dinners, or cakewalks, to bake sales to get money to fly them back from Germany.

01:15:46.000 I know, it's just, it's really sad.

01:15:48.000 It's the first time I realize, looking at them, that this is cannon fodder.

01:15:52.000 Nobody cares what happens to them.

01:15:54.000 Well, supporting them means you really don't support them.

01:15:57.000 Supporting them means you just mindlessly fly a plastic flag made by Chinese slaves. 1.00

01:16:03.000 Yeah, and you have a machine to sign the letters of condolence for you.

01:16:09.000 Let's take a call here.

01:16:10.000 Let's talk to... Oh, who is up next here?

01:16:15.000 Matt in Texas, you're on the air.

01:16:16.000 Go ahead.

01:16:17.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:16:18.000 Good, sir.

01:16:19.000 Are you familiar with the documentary Brothers on Holy Ground?

01:16:23.000 No.

01:16:24.000 Well, I was watching the True Channel a while ago and there's a thing about September 11th and the way the buildings fell.

01:16:31.000 You're talking about the French Brothers, of course.

01:16:35.000 And we played that clip.

01:16:35.000 Yes, sir, yes.

01:16:37.000 The firefighters say, did you see the detonators?

01:16:39.000 Did you see the, you know, it looked like bombs were going off?

01:16:41.000 Well, this guy was just one of the employees in the building, I think, in Building 2.

01:16:47.000 And, uh, when the, he said whenever the second plane struck his building, uh, after it quit shaking, after the building quit shaking, uh, he heard, uh, multiple explosions coming from across the street.

01:16:57.000 Yeah, no, it's full of, uh, witnesses saying bombs.

01:17:00.000 I've called firefighters up that are in the newspaper saying, you know, they saw the bombs go off and it's Mr. Jones.

01:17:00.000 Yeah.

01:17:07.000 Listen, I've been told not to talk.

01:17:09.000 I love my family.

01:17:10.000 Goodbye.

01:17:11.000 I'm not kidding.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:13.000 That's what Lou Cacioli, he was in People Magazine, told me.

01:17:15.000 Senior firefighter.

01:17:16.000 You know, head of a whole fire team.

01:17:19.000 And he just said, look, I've been told not to talk about it.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, I just thought it was weird because if you remember Oklahoma City, there was mysteriously, you know, the other explosions and it just seems like they leave their signet everywhere.

01:17:30.000 Well, and that was another, but look, we have total proof on that.

01:17:34.000 That was another government op, you know.

01:17:37.000 Yeah, I just thought I would pass that along.

01:17:40.000 I didn't know if you'd seen it or not.

01:17:42.000 Yeah, there's three different groups in that.

01:17:45.000 Firefighters and some other witnesses.

01:17:46.000 We're talking about the French Brothers film, saying bombs going off.

01:17:49.000 Yeah.

01:17:50.000 I just also wanted to tell you, I've been using your Road to Charity movie to wake up my girlfriend, and it's working pretty good.

01:17:57.000 And I just wanted to tell you thanks for all your hard work.

01:18:00.000 Well, thank you.

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01:23:22.000 In fact, let's go straight back to the calls for our guest here today.

01:23:28.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Pam in New Mexico. 1.00

01:23:32.000 Pam, you're on the air.

01:23:33.000 Go ahead.

01:23:34.000 Hi, Alex.

01:23:35.000 Take a hot tub for your back.

01:23:38.000 I hope you feel better.

01:23:39.000 I wasn't whining earlier.

01:23:41.000 I woke up this morning after a luscious four hours of sleep after I finished the film Martial Law last night at about 4 a.m.

01:23:51.000 and I feel like somebody's sticking an ice pick in my back.

01:23:54.000 I know.

01:23:54.000 I said the same thing and honest to God a hot tub will really help.

01:23:59.000 Um, but anyway, that's not what I called about.

01:24:01.000 What I called about is that I've noticed that a new word has come into American parlance and that seems to be the word suicided.

01:24:10.000 People are being suicided like Hunter Thompson and Gary Webb and my burning question is, is that what

01:24:19.000 Greg Palast, who you've had on your show, he must know, surely, Greg Palast must know the truth about 9-11 and about the theft of the 2004 election, and he doesn't say a word about it, and what about your fellow Texans, Molly Ivins,

01:24:44.000 Let's get something clear here. 0.90

01:24:53.000 Bush is nothing but a puppet. 1.00

01:24:54.000 Clinton was a puppet. 0.99

01:24:55.000 It's that the globalist corporate interests, who are not free market, who operate as a global crime syndicate, are getting more and more arrogant. 0.83

01:25:03.000 And, uh, actually, Palace does talk about the election scams, but you can't have an election scam without a scamming, uh, a candidate that, you know, that takes the dive who's a ringer.

01:25:13.000 And so Kerry was a ringer.

01:25:15.000 And, uh, look.

01:25:18.000 I mean, Palace has reported on that.

01:25:20.000 He doesn't really... I mean, he gets into 9-11 and the prior knowledge and Bush ordering the FBI off of the trail.

01:25:26.000 But, you know, he works for the BBC.

01:25:28.000 He can't go all the way.

01:25:29.000 Now, as for Molly Ivins, I mean, she's... She's really an establishment lib.

01:25:34.000 You know, she's for this whole system. 0.98

01:25:37.000 I like Hightower, but he doesn't go as far as he should.

01:25:40.000 Any comments, sir, on that?

01:25:45.000 You had an article not long ago in the Financial Times in London saying that the electoral boundaries were redrawn to favor the Republicans.

01:25:56.000 And that's a prestigious periodical.

01:25:58.000 Well, we had Michael Meacher, for the Guardian, the number three man in the Blair government, basically said the government carried out 9-11.

01:26:06.000 Really?

01:26:07.000 Yeah, well, in his article two years ago, yeah, titled, what is it, The War on Terror is a Fraud.

01:26:15.000 Well, I mean, you can't wage war against an abstract noun anyway, can you?

01:26:18.000 How do you know if you've won?

01:26:19.000 Well, that's the point.

01:26:20.000 It's a perfect, foggy, Goldstein, 1984.

01:26:25.000 Bush has said it's going to be a hundred-year war.

01:26:27.000 Yeah, no, the war is endless.

01:26:28.000 It's just like Orwell said.

01:26:32.000 All right, anything else?

01:26:33.000 You have this, Ambassador Wilson said, I saw him on some footage of a movie, I've forgotten which movie it was, but Ambassador Wilson, Valerie Plum's, Valerie Plum's husband, he said, these people are patriots, misguided, but patriots all the same.

01:26:51.000 I don't see how he can say that!

01:26:53.000 How can they say that Bush et al.

01:26:56.000 And Wolfowitz and all those guys and Rumsfeld.

01:26:59.000 Hey, have you heard they're going to try to make Wolfowitz head of the World Bank?

01:27:03.000 Yes!

01:27:03.000 Thanks for the call, Pam.

01:27:05.000 Glenn, where are you calling us from?

01:27:07.000 Hi.

01:27:08.000 Where are you calling from?

01:27:10.000 Toronto, Canada.

01:27:11.000 How are you?

01:27:11.000 Welcome.

01:27:12.000 Good.

01:27:14.000 I just want to know, I heard that you were a part of the Church of Scientology.

01:27:19.000 Is that true?

01:27:20.000 No.

01:27:22.000 Where did that come from?

01:27:23.000 I don't know.

01:27:25.000 I'm not a member of any church or organization.

01:27:30.000 I've had groups on that have been associated with them who are against the drugging of children, but I've had Ann Coulter on this show.

01:27:40.000 It doesn't mean I'm with Ann Coulter.

01:27:43.000 How can we email you?

01:27:46.000 Tips at Infowars.com.

01:27:48.000 Let me write this down.

01:27:50.000 Sorry?

01:27:51.000 Tips at Infowars.com, sir.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, and also there's an Alex Jones who's a New York Times writer and who does NPR shows.

01:28:01.000 I'm not that Alex Jones.

01:28:03.000 There's about 10 Alex Joneses in the media and I'm tired of being confused with them.

01:28:08.000 I'm Alexander Emmerich Jones.

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01:28:14.000 Not to be confused with Alex S. Jones or Alex D. Jones or Alex M. Jones.

01:28:20.000 Okay, so it's Chip.

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01:28:28.000 Thank you very much, eh?

01:28:29.000 Thank you, I appreciate it.

01:28:31.000 No, it's just, it's irritating.

01:28:32.000 I mean, I'm... Where this stuff comes from, I have no idea.

01:28:36.000 Scientology is not just a bad thing.

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01:33:36.000 Of course, I kind of skipped over what an hour of the film is, or 59 minutes of the two and a half hour film is 9-11.

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01:35:22.000 Before I continue with Ron and Ed and everybody else is patiently holding.

01:35:31.000 Paul Roberts, of course, Paul William Roberts, is the author of A War Against Truth, which you can get via the Internet.

01:35:39.000 It's not published here in the U.S., though it's award-winning.

01:35:42.000 Tell us about your book before we take some more calls.

01:35:45.000 Well, the subtitle is An Intimate Account of the Invasion of Iraq.

01:35:50.000 And it's an eyewitness account of what happened and includes a background history, not just of Sudan, but of the whole area, going back to British Imperial times, so that you can see the context in which this has to be put.

01:36:08.000 I find the news today lacks all context.

01:36:11.000 It's just a blizzard of facts, unconnected.

01:36:13.000 But this puts it all together.

01:36:15.000 I've got a DVD, too, of footage I shot there called American Holocaust.

01:36:21.000 And I'll send you a copy, Alex.

01:36:24.000 Yeah, well, how do people get a copy of that?

01:36:26.000 Well, I'm going to send you a box of books, which you can give away or do what you want with, and I'll send you a DVD, and you're welcome to burn copies.

01:36:34.000 Wow.

01:36:35.000 You know, that's always a sign of somebody that really cares.

01:36:38.000 I'm authorizing my listeners to make copies of my films.

01:36:41.000 I just want to get it out, because we're not going to have a civilization.

01:36:45.000 That was my next question.

01:36:48.000 That was my next... Well, first off, tell people about your publisher and how they can still get it here in the U.S.

01:36:53.000 It's published in Canada by Raincoast Publishing.

01:36:56.000 Raincoast in Vancouver.

01:36:59.000 And you can get it on Amazon CA, the Canadian version of Amazon.

01:37:05.000 Or Indigo, which is an online bookseller, too.

01:37:10.000 Okay, a war against truth.

01:37:11.000 But that was my final question before we go to a blitz of calls here.

01:37:16.000 If the globalist, this out-of-control crime syndicate just continues, there's $2.4 trillion missing from the Pentagon, CBS News, there's just mass corporate looting, just total criminality, and they're getting away with all of it, and history shows when they start getting away with all of it, they just don't stop It's just more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

01:37:38.000 It's like the end of the Roman Empire when the Emperor Valentinian III decides to cut down the content of silver in the coins.

01:37:47.000 Takes it down 6%.

01:37:49.000 Within a few years, you know, there's only 3% of silver left.

01:37:54.000 And then he finds out that his taxes are paid in that currency, and so he's really spitting himself.

01:38:00.000 But, I mean, the parallels with the decline of the Roman Empire are enormous.

01:38:06.000 Well, they're just going wild!

01:38:08.000 I mean, when do you think it's going to stop, or will it?

01:38:11.000 Well, I think it's up to the rest of the world, particularly the European countries, to get together and block it.

01:38:20.000 But you can see in South America, In Southeast Asia, these various blocks forming that are excluding America and are deliberately thwarting American patents.

01:38:33.000 The American economy is in disastrous shape.

01:38:36.000 The dollar could collapse any day.

01:38:39.000 That was another one of Saddam's problems, converting into the Euro. 0.97

01:38:43.000 But this is the problem!

01:38:45.000 If you look at who owns American banks and American corporations, number one, owners are the British.

01:38:50.000 Then you've got the Germans and the Swiss and the French and the Japanese and the Arabs. 0.96

01:38:57.000 Predominantly, the Saudis, House of Saud. 0.93

01:39:01.000 And so really what I see is America's been captured by the most radical interests of this global system.

01:39:06.000 They're kind of using us as the bad cop.

01:39:08.000 And then Europe puts out some rhetoric.

01:39:11.000 But at many levels, they're really just part of the same thing.

01:39:15.000 Well, I'm sure they are on certain levels.

01:39:18.000 You're right, but the emerging economies in Asia, I don't think, are part of that.

01:39:25.000 They'll probably form their own criminal syndicate given time.

01:39:29.000 But the fact with the dollar is, being an international currency, half the dollars that exist are held outside of America.

01:39:36.000 The World Reserve, they talk about the Euro's gone back down.

01:39:39.000 It's gone back down by like a third of a percent.

01:39:44.000 The dollar's down 42% from three years ago.

01:39:47.000 Yeah, well, if OPEC had even gone over to two currencies, the euro and the dollar, the dollar would have fallen 40% overnight.

01:39:56.000 By the way, I have a Financial Times article.

01:39:59.000 They're talking about $3 a gallon gas right now.

01:40:04.000 Well, the Europeans will say welcome to the club.

01:40:07.000 Well, how is that?

01:40:08.000 How do we get fuel at $1.50 and Europe's paying $6?

01:40:13.000 I'd deal with the Saudis, wouldn't I? 1.00

01:40:16.000 But, I mean, now, of course, America is basically a member of OPEC.

01:40:22.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:40:24.000 You know, people... The news keeps saying the economy's great, the economy's great, the economy's great.

01:40:28.000 I mean, I know hundreds of people who have two, three degrees, who are hard-working, they've all lost their jobs, they say the high-tech job layoffs are going to get seven times greater in the next four years, Congressional Budget Office, houses are for sale everywhere, the average American family spends $1.20 a year for every dollar they make.

01:40:50.000 America doesn't make anything.

01:40:52.000 I mean, there's nothing really made there anymore.

01:40:57.000 And that was the same in the case of the last days of Rome.

01:41:00.000 All they manufactured was the currency and an army.

01:41:06.000 But why have the globalists of America's, their military arm, why have the globalists then moved all the industry offshore?

01:41:12.000 Because it's just a short term thing and make all the money they can?

01:41:16.000 They're very short term.

01:41:18.000 I mean, look at Norman Mailer once said of George Bush, the father, that he's no doubt an intelligent man, but he couldn't pass a first year course in philosophy.

01:41:29.000 They think very, very short term.

01:41:32.000 Big profits, short term.

01:41:34.000 Look what they're doing to the ecology. 0.93

01:41:39.000 I call that looting.

01:41:42.000 It's just a wild looting. 0.71

01:41:44.000 But I'm telling you, there's bigger financial interest about puppets like Bush. 0.99

01:41:48.000 Why are they allowing this mad dog looting? 0.99

01:41:52.000 Because they're enriching themselves in the process. 0.80

01:41:56.000 And a lot of them are fundamentalists who have no reason to stop the Armageddon, do they?

01:42:03.000 Well, that's another thing. 1.00

01:42:04.000 I'm a Christian, and I see these so-called Christian conservative leaders And you go, okay, here's five major newspapers that they bushin' gay porn stars at Bohemian Grove to, uh, you know, have orgies with them. 1.00

01:42:17.000 And, uh, they go, oh, of the devil, you're a liar! 1.00

01:42:20.000 And I go, no, no, really, uh, Bush is a member of Skull and Bones, it's a Nazi death cult. 0.99

01:42:24.000 Oh, that's ridiculous, you're makin' that up, you know, it just... Well, uh, you know, here's, you know, here's Bush, uh, you know, making fun of somebody he's gonna execute, laughing about it. 0.99

01:42:33.000 Oh, you're a li... I mean, it's just like... 0.98

01:42:36.000 No, I don't recognize these people as Christians at all. 0.96

01:42:40.000 I mean, by their deeds, you know, you shall know them. 0.98

01:42:44.000 It's sick.

01:42:45.000 Let's take some calls.

01:42:46.000 Ron in New York City.

01:42:47.000 Go ahead, Ron.

01:42:49.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:42:50.000 I'm going to digress for one moment from the original purpose of my call and say, Luda's never thinking the long term, quite obviously, and anyone could call himself anything he wants.

01:42:59.000 That doesn't make it so.

01:43:00.000 And that goes along with the pseudo or plastic Christianity. 0.83

01:43:03.000 Well, it's like this alleged mass murderer up in Missouri, up in the Kansas area.

01:43:09.000 You know, he's the good government.

01:43:12.000 authority.

01:43:13.000 You know, he's the good churchgoer.

01:43:15.000 He's the good family man.

01:43:18.000 And, you know, he's out, you know, supposedly there's a lot of evidence doing all of this.

01:43:22.000 And the media plays up Christian family man, you know, trying to demonize good Christian family folks.

01:43:27.000 But it just shows just because somebody's wearing a suit, folks, doesn't mean they're trustworthy.

01:43:31.000 Go ahead.

01:43:32.000 No, we think that they're going to look like they're doing movies.

01:43:35.000 They don't.

01:43:36.000 They look like people next door.

01:43:37.000 My question is, and particularly to Mr. Roberts, recently, at least in the American press, there's been quite a big issue over the last two or three days about the fact that they found some very rough and minimal sketches.

01:43:50.000 and the other issues.

01:43:51.000 Uh, I believe in the possession of the Madrid bombers.

01:43:55.000 And the sketches were of our, uh, Grand Central Terminal in New York.

01:43:59.000 Uh, why would such... I would almost say irrelevant at this point.

01:44:05.000 Uh, non-evidence be brought out and highlighted this late, a year after.

01:44:09.000 Well, let me just say this.

01:44:10.000 I mean, I'm going to throw this.

01:44:11.000 We have a giant section on PrisonPlanet.com, fake terror alerts.

01:44:16.000 I mean, there's like 50 of them where they admittedly, quote, issue them.

01:44:20.000 Even in a press briefing, Ari Fleischer admitted, this is for political purposes.

01:44:24.000 They just make it up to create fear.

01:44:28.000 Comments, Mr. Roberts?

01:44:30.000 Yeah, look at Colin Powell with his tube of anthrax in the United Nations. 0.99

01:44:35.000 I mean, ridiculous.

01:44:36.000 We saw from the Tokyo subway incident that it's actually not very easy to kill people with toxic gas, you know, or microbes. 0.96

01:44:49.000 I mean, they basically have to be injected.

01:44:52.000 No, it's an ironic use of the term injected.

01:44:54.000 It seems that every time things are starting to calm down just a little bit, I guess you could liken The nation now to a patient who's constantly be given injections and then when he wakes up or starts to wake up they give him another injection only in this case the injection is propaganda.

01:45:10.000 Are people supposed to feel safe because they're told every morning how unsafe they are?

01:45:17.000 I don't see how some crude sketches can amount to anything really.

01:45:21.000 Number one it's been proven the Madrid bombing was a government op and it blew up in their face. 0.70

01:45:29.000 And I don't have two hours to go over it.

01:45:30.000 We've done probably ten shows on it.

01:45:32.000 So much of what we're seeing in Iraq, I think, is the same.

01:45:34.000 When you've got somebody like Negroponte in charge there, albeit briefly, it's for a reason.

01:45:41.000 And, you know, the only thing on his resume is an expert in setting up death squads.

01:45:47.000 And do you think, in this case, is it just another one of the routine alarms that we've been through now for four years?

01:45:53.000 Or is this an indication that maybe something more serious is in the works?

01:45:57.000 Well, you know, it's the boy who cried wolf.

01:45:59.000 When you cry wolf, you know, often enough, nobody takes any notice after a while.

01:46:03.000 Is that the intention?

01:46:05.000 I, you know, with these, there's so many different reasons why they could be doing what they're doing.

01:46:10.000 I'm sure all the theories.

01:46:12.000 The question is, are we at that point yet?

01:46:15.000 I said the danger of terror attack went up exponentially after the election.

01:46:20.000 And I say before Bush leaves office, you're going to have a mega attack that dwarfs 9-11 unless we expose who's behind 9-11.

01:46:32.000 The idea of a war to defend democracy is a nice idea, but when you think about what it entails, to fight such a war you need a big army, which requires a central command.

01:46:43.000 Once you've got all that in place, you don't have a democracy to defend anyway.

01:46:47.000 Well, and you won't have an economy left for very long, considering the amount of money it takes to finance that.

01:46:52.000 Well, I don't think you do.

01:46:54.000 Thanks for the call, Ron.

01:46:54.000 Well, thanks.

01:46:55.000 And we've got to defend our constitutional republic, but it's been seized.

01:46:59.000 Look, it's simple.

01:47:00.000 I love this country.

01:47:01.000 I love our military.

01:47:02.000 I know most of our police are good.

01:47:04.000 But the ideology, the program they're being fed, like a computer, is a virus, is a fraud.

01:47:09.000 You know, it's like if I loved a ship, the ship isn't bad because it's going to run over somebody else's boat.

01:47:15.000 It's bad that somebody hijacked it and has control of it.

01:47:18.000 And America's this engine, and it's been hijacked, and now the hijackers are just going crazy.

01:47:27.000 I mean, they're just foaming at the mouth because they've got these high-tech Space-age PR firms that are able to neutralize the political process in most people's brains.

01:47:38.000 And so most people just unplugged and are watching football and baseball and eating hot dogs.

01:47:43.000 And I mean, Rome is burning, ladies and gentlemen.

01:47:47.000 The dumbing down of the country is part of it, but the rest of the world isn't quite so dumbed down yet.

01:47:54.000 I mean, in Paris or in India, people sit around talking, reading newspapers and are pretty well informed.

01:48:03.000 They don't buy it when Bush comes.

01:48:06.000 Or, you know, whoever comes and wants to do a complete about-face.

01:48:10.000 Well, Alexander de Tocqueville, when he traveled to America at the turn of two centuries ago, said that all Americans did was sit around with newspapers, you know, in their free time, arguing about politics and getting on soap boxes.

01:48:23.000 We were the most informed, the most involved.

01:48:26.000 And you look at us now, I mean, the average American literally cannot find Iraq on a map, but they've got their opinion about it.

01:48:33.000 No, they don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran.

01:48:37.000 Everything is almost reversed from when Tocqueville was here.

01:48:40.000 5% of the population then were working for somebody else.

01:48:46.000 95% were self-employed.

01:48:50.000 The level of income was all from earned income.

01:48:53.000 It wasn't from rentier income.

01:48:56.000 Unbelievable.

01:48:57.000 We were the ultimate producers.

01:48:58.000 That's why we had half the world's wealth.

01:49:00.000 Now we're losing all that.

01:49:02.000 And more important, losing probably the greatest idea that human beings have ever come up with.

01:49:10.000 It's so sad.

01:49:12.000 We had prosperity and power because despite all our problems, we had the best model.

01:49:19.000 And then now they've hijacked us.

01:49:20.000 I mean, it's like a virus.

01:49:22.000 A virus plugs into a cell, reprograms it, then the cell produces thousands more viruses and then busts open, spilling out more.

01:49:32.000 And America's already busted open.

01:49:34.000 And we've disgorged this huge mass of these viruses that are just attacking the entire planet, and people are sick of it.

01:49:43.000 And yeah, you have a one-party system which is, you know, no basis to preach democracy to others.

01:49:49.000 We got a break, we'll be right back.

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01:52:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:53:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:07.000 Alright, we're talking to Paul William Roberts.

01:53:16.000 We got him on originally because of an article in the Globe and Mail in Canada He was friends with Hunter S. Thompson.

01:53:23.000 I've been talking to him a lot.

01:53:24.000 He's confirmed that Thompson was working on reports about the gay prostitutes and all the rest of it. 1.00

01:53:32.000 The homosexual prostitutes in the White House and all of this he was working on. 0.98

01:53:37.000 Stories about 9-11 and government involvement. 0.99

01:53:41.000 And that he was worried about the government, so that's interesting.

01:53:45.000 And now we've gotten off into his book, A War Against Truth, and I'm really enjoying this discussion.

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01:54:13.000 We're going to go to Ed, Thomas, Randy, Jeremy, others.

01:54:18.000 Let's go to Mike in Arizona first.

01:54:20.000 Mike in Arizona, you're on the air.

01:54:22.000 Welcome.

01:54:23.000 Yes, hi.

01:54:24.000 Good afternoon.

01:54:25.000 Hello.

01:54:26.000 I was just wondering, and condolences by the way.

01:54:28.000 I don't know how close you are, Mr. Roberts, to Hunter Thompson.

01:54:33.000 I'm sure you're feeling some loss.

01:54:35.000 I was wondering who has access at this point to Mr. Thompson's records?

01:54:42.000 I mean, if he does have anything.

01:54:43.000 Well, the family, the son in particular, I think, will be the executor of the estate.

01:54:54.000 And it will take probably years to go through all the documents and papers that he's amassed over time, ones written by himself, you know, and all manner of things.

01:55:08.000 It just seems a shame that his work that he was doing recently here might be lost.

01:55:15.000 And I just wonder if they might avail themselves of your services to kind And I've pieced that together as best as possible.

01:55:22.000 Well, I mean, everyone is respecting the family's privacy.

01:55:26.000 And thanks for Homeland Security, I can't come to America anyway.

01:55:30.000 I see.

01:55:31.000 Oh, yeah, let's talk about that.

01:55:32.000 Talk about the new freedom.

01:55:33.000 Yeah.

01:55:34.000 No, I mean, after giving a talk in Harvard, I was then invited to Denver to give a talk at a peace rally.

01:55:44.000 This is the December before the war in 2002.

01:55:49.000 And as I went to leave the airport here, and the odd thing about Toronto Airport is that the American customs and immigration is actually in the airport.

01:56:01.000 So you can get turned out of America without even entering it. 0.90

01:56:05.000 and I was sitting there, somebody came up and took my ticket and passport and didn't come back until the plane had left and then announced that I was not admissible.

01:56:15.000 I said, "Well, you know, I've been admissible for the last 30 years.

01:56:17.000 What's the problem?" And then decided I'll drive to Buffalo and fly from there and Buffalo, the bridge They're waiting for me.

01:56:31.000 And it's really simple.

01:56:32.000 I mean, we've had, like, what, five members of Congress who aren't allowed to fly now.

01:56:37.000 I mean, it's serious.

01:56:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:40.000 Boy, Mike, that sounds like the new freedom, doesn't it?

01:56:42.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:56:43.000 Much more freedom like that, and we'll all be in chains.

01:56:46.000 Well, I mean, the Constitution has been suspended.

01:56:49.000 Well, we've got to leave the border open, though.

01:56:51.000 Can't have security there.

01:56:53.000 On the southern border, though.

01:56:55.000 That might offend someone.

01:56:58.000 That would be bad for someone's business, probably.

01:57:00.000 Let's stop an award-winning journalist with no criminal record.

01:57:04.000 Boy, I tell you, this is getting scarier and scarier.

01:57:08.000 I'm in touch with people who have even scarier stories.

01:57:13.000 People who get a letter every week from Homeland Security reminding them that they can enter their apartment any time they feel like it and remove anything they wish to.

01:57:22.000 Under Section 213 of H.R. 3162, also known as the Patriot Act.

01:57:30.000 We have new freedom and all these Orwellian terms.

01:57:33.000 I want to hear a little bit about what it was like getting on the no-fly list.

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01:57:43.000 Hello! Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 Already into the third and final hour of this Thursday, the third day of March 2005 edition, Uh-oh. the third day of March 2005 edition, Uh-oh.

01:58:24.000 I've really been enjoying our discussion with Paul William Roberts, a respected award-winning journalist and of course author of the new book, A War Against Truth.

01:58:35.000 And we first got him on to talk about his friend Hunter S. Thompson, who told him he was worried about the government and government conspiracies and coming to get him basically over 9-11.

01:58:47.000 September 11th, and possible government involvement in bringing the towers down.

01:58:52.000 He was also admittedly working on stories about the coal boys, underage, you name it, in the White House.

01:59:00.000 Going back over decades, it's all part of the Christian conservativeness of it all.

01:59:05.000 Uh, that, uh, we're all supposed to just go along with, I guess.

01:59:08.000 And we're taking your calls.

01:59:09.000 In fact, let's just go right back to the calls.

01:59:10.000 We're bringing up so many different news items, uh, from the listeners.

01:59:14.000 Uh, let's, uh, talk to Ed in Pennsylvania.

01:59:16.000 Ed, welcome, sir.

01:59:17.000 Thanks for holding.

01:59:18.000 Uh, hello, Paul and Alex.

01:59:20.000 Hello.

01:59:20.000 Uh, I'm doing some research on running, uh, diesel motors on, uh, used vegetable oil.

01:59:27.000 And I was, uh, reading about Rudolph Diesel, who invented the diesel motor.

01:59:31.000 He made a deal with the, he's German, he made a deal with the English, and was crossing a channel on a ferry, and two German agents tossed him into the English channel there.

01:59:41.000 Of course it came up in the paper that he committed suicide.

01:59:44.000 And, uh... Well, yeah, because diesel was gonna threaten all the new processes, uh, for, uh, what we call, you know, the modern petrol, or, uh, or the non-diesel fuels.

01:59:55.000 And, uh, yeah.

01:59:56.000 He had a motor that could run on, on, uh, coal dust and water.

02:00:00.000 In 1908 or something like that.

02:00:02.000 Well, I mean, they've now got the solar panels that are five times better than anything, and we'll see if those get implemented.

02:00:08.000 I mean, we're talking about a solar car that has small panels on it, and it'll go, you know, over 100 miles an hour.

02:00:15.000 The nanotechnology, that was awesome yesterday, Alex.

02:00:17.000 That was awesome.

02:00:18.000 Yeah.

02:00:19.000 But just, you know, just another suicide story coming up.

02:00:22.000 You know, his family said there was no way it was suicide, and, you know, everything was going great, and he, you know, It's very suspicious.

02:00:32.000 This business of vast powers ruining individuals goes back to as far back as Reich and his microscope and Bill and Reich for that matter.

02:00:47.000 Well yeah, there's been just thousands of technological developments that have been shelved Because they threaten the existing order.

02:00:54.000 I love that final scene in Indiana Jones, where there's the lost ark.

02:00:57.000 And it's an analogy, folks.

02:00:58.000 I'm not saying it's real.

02:00:59.000 Where they roll the ark into that warehouse, and it's just an endless warehouse of boxes of all the hidden things.

02:01:07.000 Yeah.

02:01:09.000 It's amazing.

02:01:09.000 Thank you for the call there.

02:01:13.000 Let's talk now to Thomas in Colorado.

02:01:16.000 Welcome, Thomas.

02:01:18.000 Hi, nice to talk to you.

02:01:20.000 Good to hear from you.

02:01:20.000 What's on your mind?

02:01:21.000 I never met Mr. Dr. Thompson myself but we had a mutual friend and I'm still friends with this guy but I and through this mutual friend I passed on to him about a year ago some of your videos so Dr. Thompson watched your videos I know this for a fact and through my friend I heard that you know he was he was impressed and he said something to the effect that Yes, that's the way it is.

02:01:50.000 Or something like that.

02:01:50.000 Or yes, this is how things are.

02:01:53.000 Well, I didn't know that.

02:01:54.000 I mean, I know that I've had a lot of Hollywood people and other folks, generals, call me up, you know, one in the morning after they've seen the videos.

02:02:03.000 And that's an interesting story.

02:02:04.000 I know Michael Moore.

02:02:05.000 I know the people that delivered it into his hand, Rotterdam.

02:02:09.000 And of course I made the first film about 9-11, and I've made several since.

02:02:13.000 The new one, my best work, was just released today.

02:02:16.000 But I hope that people will share this as well.

02:02:20.000 Yeah, well, it contributed to his research.

02:02:23.000 I'm sure it turned him on, you know.

02:02:27.000 So your friend, you know, handed them to him and Hunter watched them.

02:02:32.000 Yes, I know that for a fact.

02:02:34.000 Well, tell me more about this when we get back.

02:02:35.000 We'll go to more callers and get the response from our guest, Mr. Thompson's good friend, Paul William Roberts.

02:02:41.000 Stay with us.

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02:05:51.000 Alright, again, just a recap for all of those that have just joined us in the last few minutes.

02:06:08.000 The last, what, hour and a half we've had Paul William Roberts, who is a respected journalist and also author of A War Against Truth.

02:06:16.000 He was friends with Hunter S. Thompson.

02:06:20.000 And, of course, even he himself is banned from flying into the United States now just because he gave a speech at Harvard that the globalists didn't like.

02:06:28.000 And they admit that you give a speech they don't like against their policies.

02:06:31.000 There are over 350,000 people on the no-fly list.

02:06:34.000 A lot of times it's somebody who's got a name like, you know, David Jones or, you know, John Thompson.

02:06:41.000 Those common names.

02:06:43.000 It's now five members of Congress that aren't allowed to fly.

02:06:47.000 And then over and over again they go to Homeland Security, get their name off the list, but then it goes right back on the list.

02:06:51.000 You know, Ted Kennedy.

02:06:55.000 And now they're going to have this for the driver's license itself.

02:06:57.000 They're going to have this at the state level.

02:06:59.000 I want to talk about that after we finish up with some of these calls with our guests.

02:07:02.000 But we're talking to Thomas in Colorado, and he said that he gave his friends, in one of my videos, and his friend was friends with Thompson,

02:07:10.000 Hunter S. Thompson, and that he did see Road to Tyranny, and now again, his friend who we have on the line with us now, Mr. Roberts, who wrote this article for the Globe and Mail, says that he was aware of 9-11, thought there was evidence of bombs in the towers, and was going to be writing about that, and of course he's now died under some questionable circumstances, but anything else you'd like to add, Thomas?

02:07:34.000 Well, I was just wondering, I've always wanted to ask you this, but I also mailed you something over a year ago, it was like It was a commercial from TV that I taped, and I sent it to you, and it was like animated for one of these Xbox kind of games, you know?

02:07:50.000 It had the song, My Country Tis of Thee, Sweet Land of Liberty, and then it showed these black ski masks, snipers going around killing people.

02:07:59.000 Did you ever see it?

02:08:00.000 Yeah, I did get that, and thank you, and this is the new good, guys!

02:08:03.000 This is freedom!

02:08:06.000 In horrible dictatorships, they were wearing masks hundreds of years ago.

02:08:11.000 When your police start wearing masks, folks, you're in deep trouble.

02:08:14.000 In fact, let me... All the tell-tale signs, the nomenclature...

02:08:19.000 The vocabulary of classical dark oppression is now being picked up with a high-tech overlay.

02:08:27.000 Do you have any examples of that you'd like to elaborate on, Mr. Roberts?

02:08:32.000 Well, I mean, I know that the organizations like the police have heavy membership in secret societies themselves.

02:08:40.000 There seems a kind of wooing by the top of the status quo, the middle of the status quo, the people in charge of law and order and justice and so on.

02:08:54.000 And once you control the courts, you basically control the truth.

02:09:00.000 And it gets back to Orwell.

02:09:02.000 War is peace. 0.96

02:09:03.000 Slavery is freedom.

02:09:06.000 I mean, in my book I've got accounts of Prince Rashid, the nephew of King Hussein, told me that he had intelligence reports from Iraq that the Americans had set off some kind of nuclear device in the underground bunkers of Saddam Hussein, where the army had been lured.

02:09:27.000 And it's still not been clear what happened to at least 50,000 members of the elite Republican Guard.

02:09:36.000 who could not go home, whose fate was tied in with Saddam's.

02:09:40.000 Supposedly they were lured there, and something was set off.

02:09:44.000 Now, we heard lots about these bunkers before the war, but no one has mentioned them since.

02:09:49.000 No one has seen them, and I think that that suggestion remains open until somebody's been down there and confirmed that nothing happened.

02:09:58.000 Well, they told us that they're going to quote start using bunker-busting mini-nukes.

02:10:03.000 Well, yeah, that's right.

02:10:06.000 This was a deal they'd done with one of Saddam's generals.

02:10:11.000 Who ordered, the only person other than Saddam, who could order that particular elite force. 0.54

02:10:17.000 And they were sent to the bunker that is near the airport, which was off bounds to journalists for a very long time, an unusually long time.

02:10:26.000 And once down there, once they were sure they were there, something was set off that basically vaporized them.

02:10:34.000 And you notice a number of generals went asked, What had happened to the army?

02:10:39.000 A number of them all said the same thing.

02:10:41.000 They vanished into thin air, which would have been literally true.

02:10:44.000 But I mean, other things I detail in there, which are thoroughly obnoxious.

02:10:50.000 The use of cluster bombs, where the bomblets look like children's toys.

02:10:55.000 The Japanese journalist found a couple and thought they were toys and was taking them home for his kids.

02:11:01.000 One of them blew up in Oman airport.

02:11:05.000 You're joking!

02:11:06.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:11:07.000 There are cluster bombs that look like toys.

02:11:10.000 The bomblets look like children's toys.

02:11:12.000 They look like spinning tops, things like that.

02:11:14.000 In Afghanistan, they look like food parcels. 0.99

02:11:21.000 I saw that confirmed.

02:11:22.000 What's going on here?

02:11:24.000 Well, I mean, this is the sort of thing that the Pentagon is not going to want to admit.

02:11:29.000 You can be sure.

02:11:30.000 But just as they were using napalm over there, except now it's high-tech napalm.

02:11:36.000 They call it something else.

02:11:37.000 But somebody got that out of a general of the Pentagon who said, oh, you'll never get the generals to give that up.

02:11:44.000 They love napalm.

02:11:47.000 Well, it's just, you know, when they asked the Secretary of State Albright, 700,000 children have died in Iraq under sanctions.

02:11:55.000 Is that a good price to pay?

02:11:56.000 And she said, yeah, it is.

02:11:57.000 That's right.

02:11:58.000 Yeah, that was circulating with a picture of her looking like a dragon. 0.96

02:12:02.000 Not that that was hard to do.

02:12:05.000 No, I mean, this kind of thing is... There's a million unexploded cluster bomblets all over the place.

02:12:12.000 Every day a child gets his legs blown off.

02:12:16.000 Excuse me, hello?

02:12:17.000 Uh, yes caller.

02:12:19.000 Uh, excuse me.

02:12:20.000 Uh, one more little thing just to throw in.

02:12:22.000 Uh, the previous caller was mentioning something about Mr. Diesel.

02:12:25.000 Um, this is a website, uh, uh, Geet, G-E-E-T dot com.

02:12:31.000 It's about how cars can run on water.

02:12:34.000 And, uh, you know, if people can look into that, we don't need to have all these wars in the first place.

02:12:39.000 And who is this we're speaking to right now?

02:12:40.000 This is Thomas, Bill, in Colorado.

02:12:42.000 Okay.

02:12:43.000 Well, Thomas, listen, I really appreciate your call.

02:12:45.000 Take care.

02:12:46.000 We'd forgotten about you.

02:12:47.000 I apologize.

02:12:48.000 Uh, let's talk to Randy in Florida.

02:12:50.000 Randy, you're on the air.

02:12:51.000 Welcome.

02:12:53.000 Yeah, well, I'm kind of off topic, but I wanted to address Terry Shabo.

02:12:57.000 Oh, no, that's never off topic.

02:12:59.000 Okay.

02:12:59.000 Well, I'm just, you know, I'm speaking mostly to those people that might be listening down in Pinellas County.

02:13:06.000 If the government down there won't stand up and protect her, if ever a case calls for civil disobedience, this does. 0.99

02:13:12.000 What happened to those folks at the nursing home that she's in?

02:13:16.000 You know, don't they have a Hippocratic Oath?

02:13:18.000 Not the Hippocratic Oath?

02:13:19.000 Well, they don't give the Hippocratic Oath anymore.

02:13:22.000 You know?

02:13:23.000 I mean, did you know for ten years they don't give that oath anymore?

02:13:26.000 Well, I wasn't aware of that, but those people that work down there, you know, regardless of what they're doing, if I was working down there, I would just tell that judge, well, you can site me for content, but I'm not going to kill that woman, you know, for you or anybody else.

02:13:38.000 You know, there's a higher authority that we all answer to, and it, you know, People need to take that into account.

02:13:44.000 And understand, it's not taking her off a respirator.

02:13:46.000 She's not brain dead.

02:13:48.000 And there's a lot of foul play in the background of it.

02:13:51.000 It's really a horrible story.

02:13:53.000 And I checked into it last night.

02:13:57.000 How is she doing right now?

02:14:00.000 Well, I mean, you know, she's just under a death sentence and waiting for that too to be pulled. 1.00

02:14:04.000 So, I mean, that woman is fighting for her life and the rest of us need to get into the... Well, they pulled her feeding tube before. 0.98

02:14:10.000 Of course, they won't let him brush her teeth, they won't let him, when she gets an infection, give her any treatment.

02:14:15.000 I mean, you can't treat an animal like that.

02:14:17.000 Well, under the Florida statutes for abuse, you know, withholding food and water is a crime.

02:14:24.000 And what Governor Bush should do, and the Sheriff down there, is say, OK, Judge, if you kill this woman, we're going to arrest you and charge you with murder.

02:14:31.000 Yeah, there is too much judicial tyranny.

02:14:33.000 Thanks for the call.

02:14:35.000 Let's talk to Jeremy in Florida.

02:14:38.000 Go ahead, Jeremy.

02:14:40.000 Jeremy, just hung up.

02:14:41.000 They're good at that.

02:14:42.000 William in Oregon, go ahead.

02:14:45.000 Yes, sir.

02:14:45.000 Alex.

02:14:46.000 Good day.

02:14:47.000 Thanks again for all your good work.

02:14:48.000 Thank you.

02:14:49.000 A couple quick things off topic here.

02:14:50.000 I was listening to it every night, but once while I catch up on the Fox News, they start talking about Toll Road.

02:14:56.000 They had Hannity and Combs up there. 0.99

02:14:58.000 They tell us they were conservative and good.

02:15:00.000 They were, no.

02:15:02.000 They were condemning.

02:15:03.000 It was amazing.

02:15:04.000 I thought I was listening to you.

02:15:05.000 I thought of my stock.

02:15:07.000 They were basically kind of advocating on the side of where you and I would come from, which is, what are you guys doing?

02:15:13.000 And they're blaming it on liberals.

02:15:15.000 So I found it very funny.

02:15:16.000 And evidently they had a guest on there.

02:15:17.000 His name escapes me.

02:15:18.000 I knew it.

02:15:19.000 I knew it.

02:15:20.000 By the way, let me tell you who's putting the toll roads in.

02:15:23.000 Governor Rick Perry of Texas, Arnold A. Lowe Schwarzenegger of California, and the Governor of New York's trying it.

02:15:33.000 What's he?

02:15:34.000 What's Pataki?

02:15:35.000 An Easter Bunny?

02:15:36.000 No, he's a Republican.

02:15:38.000 I'm not a Democrat here, I'm just sick of it!

02:15:41.000 This is fake conservatism.

02:15:43.000 This is what used to annoy Hunter Thompson to no end.

02:15:47.000 He was a great believer that government should just be small and stay out of the way.

02:15:53.000 And accuse these people of being fake conservatives.

02:15:57.000 Well, I found it really ironic that they're sitting there and blaming it on the liberals.

02:16:01.000 But the interesting thing was, in the end, that Combs guy said, Well, I'm sure we'll all hear a lot about this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:16:06.000 You know, going on and on and on.

02:16:07.000 We're not going to allow this.

02:16:08.000 And it was just really curious how they, you know, it was just interesting to see the slant they put on it.

02:16:13.000 They're blaming it on the liberals.

02:16:14.000 And by the way, it's going in all over the country.

02:16:16.000 I know.

02:16:18.000 And 90 plus percent in Austin are against it. 0.99

02:16:21.000 And the mayor just says, hey, shut up. 0.96

02:16:23.000 We're doing it. 0.94

02:16:25.000 And the governor is going to take every major state road, folks.

02:16:28.000 You're going to have a transponder in your car.

02:16:31.000 Two grand to drive on the state roads.

02:16:32.000 Eighteen hundred to drive on Austin's roads.

02:16:35.000 Folks, I mean, most people I know cannot afford thousands of dollars.

02:16:39.000 They already don't even have insurance for their children.

02:16:42.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:16:43.000 The libertarian gentleman, again, he's from Oregon and he's an advocate for this.

02:16:47.000 And he was basically saying, well don't worry about it, they're not going to be able to, they're just going to know how many miles you drive, they won't know where you are.

02:16:53.000 Oh yeah, that's a fraud too.

02:16:55.000 See, now it's libertarian to pay for the roads this way.

02:17:00.000 It's private companies pay off the government to let them come in and take over your roads and it is going to increase the price day one when it starts Five times the taxes that we have as a national average.

02:17:14.000 I like saying people should invest their own money for their old age pension.

02:17:20.000 One other thing, Alex, I want to thank you very much.

02:17:22.000 I sent you the link a while back, or somebody else might have as well.

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02:17:28.000 As a matter of fact, I ordered five copies from a gal that's working with him, and I'm giving them away to people.

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02:17:33.000 As I speak, I'm getting sprayed in the Oregon coast today, once again.

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02:17:38.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with our amazing guest, Mr. Roberts.

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02:22:25.000 Paul, I mean, that phenomenon, so many people, whether they follow a corrupt Democratic regime or Republican regime, They won't listen to you about corruption because they associate their personal power with that power structure like they're part of it or something, when that system will squash them like a cockroach.

02:22:46.000 Yeah, I mean I think everybody who gets involved in a system like that imagines that it's behind them instead of on top of them.

02:22:55.000 So how do you get through to one of those people?

02:23:00.000 Well, I mean, it comes down to, I mean, people are easily bored.

02:23:04.000 We know that.

02:23:05.000 It doesn't take that much to win somebody over.

02:23:08.000 A little money, quite a little money compared to the kind of money that's being raked in.

02:23:15.000 I noticed that the Iraqi oil production was up to three million barrels a day.

02:23:20.000 Forty bucks a barrel, that's quite a lot of money coming in.

02:23:23.000 Where's that going?

02:23:24.000 And by the way, they admit that goes to the Federal Reserve.

02:23:27.000 Who set the Federal Reserve up to get that money?

02:23:31.000 Well, exactly.

02:23:32.000 And all the deals have been done.

02:23:35.000 Halliburton got in there and was able to survey the vast areas that have never been surveyed.

02:23:40.000 They know exactly where the oil is.

02:23:42.000 There's more oil in Iraq than there is in Saudi Arabia.

02:23:45.000 It's cheaper to get out of the ground because it's under high pressure.

02:23:48.000 It pumps itself out.

02:23:49.000 You save $5 a barrel right there.

02:23:53.000 Unbelievable.

02:23:56.000 It's just, and Dick Cheney said in the PNAC document, he said, Saddam isn't a threat, it's about oil, and we're going to use Iraq as a launch base to go into other countries.

02:24:06.000 He says, Saddam isn't a threat, in the September 2000 document, that they publish it!

02:24:14.000 Colin Powell said the same thing, and Condoleezza Rice said the same thing.

02:24:18.000 We boxed him in, he's not a threat.

02:24:21.000 And a few months later, they completely turn about face.

02:24:25.000 But Dick Cheney said he's not a threat, but we're still going in.

02:24:28.000 We're going to tell the people he's a threat.

02:24:30.000 Folks, he writes this and puts it on his own website.

02:24:34.000 I mean, it's not like it's Richard Clarke saying this, or it's O'Neal saying... No, even when they'd offered the ultimatum that you leave Iraq with your family, with your sons, they were saying at the same time, we're going to go in anyway.

02:24:49.000 Well, I remember they said, leave, you've got a week.

02:24:52.000 And then the report came out... At the same time, another branch of the government was saying, we're going in anyway.

02:24:58.000 Well, it was in the news, British and European news, that they had jets ready to shoot the plane down, and they were saying, yeah, we're going to arrest you once you get there.

02:25:08.000 It's still not been explained what the Russian ambassador was doing.

02:25:12.000 A convoy left Baghdad for Damascus, flew to Moscow, the ambassador turned around immediately and came straight back.

02:25:19.000 You know, that flight would have needed clearance from the American army.

02:25:25.000 He could only have been delivering something or someone.

02:25:31.000 Well, you talked about paying off a Republican guard.

02:25:34.000 I saw Rumsfeld, I have it in these stacks of tapes I recorded on the eve of the war, In 2003, and Rumsfeld was on TV going, don't worry about the war.

02:25:47.000 Of the three army groups, we've already made agreements and paid off two of the groups.

02:25:51.000 We've paid off most of the Republican Guard generals.

02:25:55.000 Look into General Ahmed Hussein, no relation to Saddam, who was the most high-ranking military officer below Saddam, the only one who could give commands to the army.

02:26:08.000 He agreed to surrender when he did, and agreed to questioning, and then was released, and is now living happily in Syria.

02:26:17.000 Well, yeah, and they paid these guys off in Euros, dollars, and gold, but Rumsfeld admitted all this, and after the war, the, quote, war, oh, we won this in, you know, a month.

02:26:27.000 After that, he got on TV and said, I never, we never paid anybody off!

02:26:30.000 We fought total resistance!

02:26:34.000 I mean, they change their story every 10 seconds!

02:26:40.000 That was why there was no resistance.

02:26:42.000 There was no Stalingrad in Baghdad.

02:26:45.000 Did you see that New York Times article where the White House official says, we're an empire now and we make reality?

02:26:52.000 We'll change reality today, tomorrow, next week, and you're all just bystanders?

02:26:56.000 We actually control reality?

02:26:58.000 So what does it matter if we change our story?

02:27:01.000 That's right, Dave.

02:27:02.000 They've learned that simple lesson that you just tell a lie often enough and powerfully enough through all the media outlets you have. 0.61

02:27:11.000 And you've got a shameless, gutless bunch of journalists.

02:27:17.000 That's what O'Brien says to Winston and he tortures him. 0.94

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02:34:00.000 Before we take some final calls here with our guest, who's the author of A War Against Truth, And of course wrote an article for the Globe and Mail of the Canada about Hunter S. Thompson saying that he thought the government was behind 9-11 and why they might be after him.

02:34:15.000 And he's confirmed he was working on the White House underage cowboy rings.

02:34:21.000 Uh, that's a big boo-boo, uh, there.

02:34:23.000 Very suspicious.

02:34:25.000 Uh, but, uh, so that is confirmed for those that have been bringing up that Skolnik talked about.

02:34:29.000 Good for Skolnik. 0.90

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02:34:32.000 Uh, let's go ahead here and go to Ron in Missouri.

02:34:34.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:34:36.000 Go ahead.

02:34:37.000 Hello, Alex and Mr. Roberts.

02:34:38.000 How you doing?

02:34:39.000 Uh, I'm fine.

02:34:40.000 Thank you.

02:34:41.000 A couple things I wanted to bring up.

02:34:42.000 I'd like to hear more on the conversion by Saddam in Iraq in 2000 from the U.S.

02:34:49.000 dollar to the Euro on their oil pricing and the effect it had on Wall Street.

02:34:56.000 Well, Saddam had actually changed out of the currency.

02:35:01.000 He was trading oil for Euros and also had exchanged the large sum that was held in escrow of the United Nations for the oil for food program into Euros.

02:35:15.000 A number of other countries said that they were going to go along, including North Korea, which of course doesn't have any oil to trade.

02:35:23.000 But Venezuela was bartering oil for third world products, so it was sort of out of the system.

02:35:32.000 And OPEC was seriously considering, as a means of punishing America, converting to two currencies.

02:35:41.000 And economists estimated that if they had just announced Correct.

02:35:46.000 going to trade in dollars and euros, the dollar would have fallen 40%.

02:35:46.000 Right.

02:35:50.000 If they had announced they were going to trade in euros, the dollar would collapse altogether because it's been pegged to oil since Nixon took it off the gold standard.

02:35:59.000 Correct.

02:35:59.000 Right.

02:36:00.000 Also, the second thing I wanted to bring up, about two years ago, Alex, I sent you a copy of a newspaper that we received at our warehouse for the company I work for.

02:36:14.000 It was dated 8/10/2001.

02:36:17.000 It came in an Israeli package.

02:36:22.000 I don't know if it was a newspaper of Israel or not or whatever, but there was a picture inset showing two airplanes on a cell phone picture or screen showing two airplanes crashing into a building with the comment, Crush America.

02:36:40.000 Underneath of it.

02:36:41.000 Do you remember that, Alex?

02:36:42.000 Yes, I did.

02:36:44.000 In fact, that was picked up by the news.

02:36:47.000 And, you know, the FBI came and confiscated it and so forth and so on.

02:36:47.000 Right.

02:36:52.000 We never heard anything more about it, but I still kept a copy.

02:36:56.000 Well, you have Sharon in the Israeli Parliament saying in an argument with Perez, which is documented fully, don't worry about America.

02:37:08.000 The Jews control America. 1.00

02:37:10.000 Correct.

02:37:10.000 And to me, with the close ties and so forth with Israel, there's no way we couldn't have known about it beforehand.

02:37:18.000 Alright, well thank you for the call.

02:37:19.000 I mean, I would add to this though, that a lot of people perseverate about Israel and, you know, Israel controls America. 0.70

02:37:28.000 I think it's a mutual merger.

02:37:32.000 Between the two bodies, what do you think about that?

02:37:35.000 It goes back to the early days of planning for the State of Israel when the Zionists, in fact, were by no means sure of getting the territory at all. 0.58

02:37:51.000 In fact, Palestine was part of the territory promised to the Sharif of Mecca for his help in fighting the Turks.

02:37:59.000 You know, which was considerable risk to himself.

02:38:02.000 The letter still exists, predates the Balfour Declaration.

02:38:06.000 But the Zionists realized that what Britain wanted more than anything was somebody to look after the Suez Canal. 0.98

02:38:14.000 So Israel's been kind of like an aircraft carrier?

02:38:19.000 It's an aircraft carrier on land, that's what it is.

02:38:24.000 When he took over, demonstrated to the other Arabs how phony their independence was. 1.00

02:38:29.000 But when he closed down the canal, within a day, you had British and French paratroopers dropping all over Egypt.

02:38:37.000 Listen, I got one more question for you, then we're going to the calls.

02:38:40.000 You had a sit-down interview with Saddam Hussein.

02:38:43.000 Describe that for me.

02:38:45.000 Quite a scary character, I can tell you.

02:38:48.000 And had all the gimmicks of power.

02:38:52.000 Very smart man.

02:38:54.000 Uh, you know, self-made, uh, you know, autodidact, uh, but, uh, somebody you certainly wouldn't want to cross.

02:39:02.000 And, uh, you know, I was trying to get more personal things out of him, which he didn't like in the least.

02:39:07.000 Uh, and he was using a translator, but, uh, when I, I remember asking him at one point, um, did he see himself as a second NASA?

02:39:17.000 And without the translator, he jumped in.

02:39:18.000 No, I first Saddam. 0.60

02:39:23.000 I've heard that his wife was the vice-principal of a school and I thought it was kind of charming that she worked and wasn't in a senior position.

02:39:32.000 I mentioned it and Sudan quickly said, no, she's principal now.

02:39:37.000 So he speaks English?

02:39:39.000 Yeah, he certainly understood it well enough to jump in.

02:39:44.000 Kind of a pidgin English?

02:39:46.000 No.

02:39:47.000 But he was extremely intelligent and quite forthright about certain things.

02:39:53.000 It was still under the impression that he was America's ally at that point.

02:39:57.000 I mean, they'd sacrificed an enormous amount of men and money in that war with Iran.

02:40:06.000 And he fully believed that he was helping America out by doing that and was shocked to discover the Iran-Contra business, which was when he asked the diplomat, you know, who do you want to win this war?

02:40:23.000 But you can see even in the conversation he has with April Glaspy, the American ambassador, that he's under the impression that he's doing America's dirty work for them.

02:40:37.000 Yeah, he's on video.

02:40:38.000 Yeah.

02:40:39.000 I mean, folks, it's incredible.

02:40:42.000 And, you know, Saddam left Christians alone. 0.51

02:40:46.000 They thrived in that country.

02:40:48.000 He was, everyone there will tell you that Saddam was a really great leader until the Iran War, and something changed in him.

02:40:57.000 And I think he recognized that America was out to get him.

02:41:02.000 There were constant broadcasts on the American propaganda network, broadcast to the Arabs, Uh, comparing him to Ceausescu.

02:41:12.000 Somebody sent him copies of the tapes of the interrogation of Ceausescu and his execution just to unnerve him.

02:41:22.000 He says in a meeting with a number of American congressmen that he's very upset by these comparisons and could they please stop it?

02:41:31.000 So they're sending him snuff films?

02:41:33.000 Yeah.

02:41:33.000 Hey buddy, this is what's going to end up... My point is, I'm not defending... Reagan lobbied the Congress not to censure Saddam for the slaughter that was going on at that time.

02:41:46.000 Let me just say something about this.

02:41:47.000 Let me just say something.

02:41:49.000 I mean, this is important.

02:41:52.000 Again, I'm not defending Saddam Hussein, folks, but compared to these other Arab leaders, I mean, Saudi Arabia, you're talking about evil! 1.00

02:41:58.000 They make him look like a choir boy!

02:42:00.000 Saudi Arabia makes Iraq look like paradise. 0.99

02:42:05.000 I mean, it's a total hellhole, but I mean, if an American pokes their nose out of a compound, it gets blown off, but these are our buddies in Bush, you know, on his daddy vacation there.

02:42:14.000 I mean, literally, they like have houses there.

02:42:16.000 That's how sick this is, and then you look at 1953, the democratically elected leader, Of Iran, anti-communist, man of the year, Time Magazine.

02:42:26.000 Most of it.

02:42:27.000 They said, you will give us all of your oil, or we're going to kick you out.

02:42:27.000 Yeah, most of it.

02:42:32.000 And he said, no, we're going to keep some of it for our country, you know.

02:42:36.000 And it was really a good... They threw him out and put the shine.

02:42:38.000 But listen, I heard Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson, on On NPR a few months ago, from the grave.

02:42:46.000 It was an old interview.

02:42:48.000 And they admitted, on the show, that, oh yeah, we went and bombed stuff and shot people, and hired 2,000 thugs, and blamed the terror attacks on Mosedeck, and then threw him out.

02:42:59.000 I mean, folks!

02:43:01.000 They've caused all these problems!

02:43:03.000 Iran was our ally and, you know, was non-fundamentalist and was our friend, and we threw them out! 1.00

02:43:10.000 No, it was the encouraging of fundamentalist Islam in countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that created the universities where a lot of these extremists have been trained.

02:43:21.000 The Washington Post reported the millions of dollars of radical Hadiths, our government sending the textbooks Paying, making them, telling Arab children to kill Americans. 0.86

02:43:30.000 That's right.

02:43:31.000 And again, that goes back, have you heard about P2OG?

02:43:34.000 Yep. 0.99

02:43:35.000 This is the Pentagon office, folks, for those who don't know, where Rumsfeld says, we're going to go kill innocent Arabs to get them to make more enemies. 0.98

02:43:45.000 Comments on that?

02:43:47.000 Well, you look at the whole train of events that starts with the encouragement of fundamentalist Islam as a bulwark against communism, then goes to the training of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, and there's a direct path there to 9-1-1. 0.94

02:44:08.000 I somehow don't buy the existence of Al-Qaeda on the level that it's supposed to exist.

02:44:16.000 It would be far easier to take down if it existed on that level. 0.91

02:44:20.000 It's a CIA shadow group with CIA officers in some cases manipulating useful idiots to carry out real attacks and then giant orchestrated theatrical events like 9-11 have nothing to do with Al-Qaeda. 0.94

02:44:32.000 Let's take a few final calls here. 0.97

02:44:35.000 Let's talk to...

02:44:37.000 Tim in Oklahoma, or is it David?

02:44:39.000 Who's up next?

02:44:40.000 David in Arizona, go ahead.

02:44:42.000 Hello Alex, how are you today?

02:44:44.000 Good.

02:44:45.000 Good.

02:44:46.000 I think you might be interested to know that I recently worked in a Homeland Security office.

02:44:51.000 I've been doing a little moonlighting lately for a temporary staffing service.

02:44:56.000 Uh, they're setting up a new office over here on, uh, I don't know if you want the address.

02:45:01.000 It's 4909 E. McDowell, Suite 106, Phoenix, Arizona.

02:45:06.000 Talk right into your telephone.

02:45:08.000 Yes, they're setting up a new female office here, uh, Homeland Security. 1.00

02:45:12.000 In Phoenix.

02:45:12.000 Yes.

02:45:14.000 And I initially, um, almost turned down the offer, but I thought, well, maybe it'd be a good idea to go over there and see what's going on.

02:45:21.000 Well, they were unloading truck after truck after truck.

02:45:24.000 And then use some extra help for people to go in there and help them unload the trucks.

02:45:27.000 You could tell that they were in a very big hurry to get this office up and running.

02:45:33.000 And I understand there's two more offices.

02:45:35.000 I don't know where they're at.

02:45:36.000 This one's on 4909 East McDowell Road, over at Suite 106 in Phoenix, Arizona.

02:45:41.000 Yeah, these are the federalization offices.

02:45:44.000 These are the real city governments to sit above the city governments being put in.

02:45:49.000 Yes, they are.

02:45:50.000 And it's very obvious to me that they're in a big hurry.

02:45:54.000 You could see that they wanted all the extra help they could get.

02:45:57.000 They wanted to get this office up and running.

02:45:59.000 Now, I was going to avail myself of a few of these placards on the walls, but they had a lot of private security.

02:46:07.000 The security there was wearing a patch that said, Private Security.

02:46:12.000 I said, Are you a federal agent?

02:46:14.000 And she said, No, I'm not.

02:46:15.000 And she wanted to search everybody when they were leaving the building.

02:46:19.000 And I almost refused.

02:46:20.000 Well, what were the placards?

02:46:25.000 I tried to write them down, but I didn't have time.

02:46:28.000 It looked like a bunch of security chiefs.

02:46:32.000 Network security, property security.

02:46:37.000 I'm trying to remember from rote memory here.

02:46:39.000 You have thousands of these private security people in Iraq performing security tasks for everyone from Halliburton to Alfred Chalabi.

02:46:52.000 How big is this facility?

02:46:55.000 Well, it's not very large.

02:46:57.000 It's kind of an old dilapidated office building.

02:47:00.000 And it's obvious that they're looking for cheap places to set up shop real quick.

02:47:06.000 And all these are going to be CIA nest of evil in all your towns.

02:47:10.000 Thanks for the call.

02:47:12.000 I really appreciate it.

02:47:13.000 David, Tim in Oklahoma.

02:47:15.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:47:18.000 You're on the air, Tim.

02:47:19.000 Right now.

02:47:20.000 Hey, what's up, Alex?

02:47:22.000 We're doing a radio show.

02:47:23.000 What's on your mind?

02:47:24.000 Uh, Hunter S. Thompson, a lot of other things, uh... Really, the Hunter S. Thompson thing, uh, really, really scares me.

02:47:35.000 Because, really, it's about freedom of speech.

02:47:38.000 It goes into Ward Churchill.

02:47:41.000 Um... I, uh... One of my friends blogged something, which includes, uh, Mr. Robert, the Globe and Mail article about, uh, I've only got the first paragraph or some part of the paragraph, uh... I know, talking about Hunter S. Thompson saying government involvement 9-11.

02:48:06.000 We've got the writer on right now.

02:48:07.000 What's on your mind?

02:48:09.000 Um, well, the first thing is, when I found out that happened, I started rereading Kingdom of Fear.

02:48:16.000 Yeah, this is Hunter's last birthday.

02:48:18.000 We're just going to have to wrap the show up with our guest here.

02:48:20.000 You're going to have to go the whole show with us.

02:48:22.000 There's five more minutes with us, Paul Roberts, and you can finish up when we get back, Tim, but you got to get to it because I want to talk to Jeremy and Steve, or Stan.

02:48:33.000 That'll be it for calls, though, after that.

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02:51:39.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

02:51:47.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. .

02:51:54.000 Just in case we run out of time in the next four and a half minutes, I want to thank our guest Paul William Roberts for coming on the broadcast.

02:52:01.000 You can read the article he wrote about Hunter Thompson and 9-11.

02:52:07.000 Right there at Globe and Mail's website.

02:52:10.000 We've got fragments of it on my website, Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:52:16.000 But yes sir, if you mail me the video you shot in Iraq, we'll put it on the website if you'd like.

02:52:23.000 We'll post that for folks to watch it and I really look forward to getting a copy of your book.

02:52:29.000 If you send me a review copy, I'd like to have you on specifically about the book, A War Against Truth, which people can get via the internet.

02:52:36.000 It's not published here in the U.S., but it is, again, award-winning and sounds excellent.

02:52:42.000 So, what's that website in Canada, again, where people in the U.S.

02:52:45.000 can order it?

02:52:46.000 It's Amazon.ca rather than .com.

02:52:50.000 But it's not on the dot-com, huh?

02:52:53.000 I don't think it is on the dot-com.

02:52:55.000 My other books are on the dot-com.

02:52:57.000 Oh, what are the other books?

02:52:59.000 There's another book on Iraq, in fact, called The Demonic Comedy.

02:53:04.000 And there's a book on Egypt, there's a book on Iran, one on India.

02:53:13.000 What else have I got?

02:53:15.000 There's one on an undercover agent working in a Russian mob.

02:53:23.000 Well that's got to be good.

02:53:25.000 Let's go back real quick, Tim.

02:53:26.000 Finish your comment.

02:53:28.000 Yeah, the whole thing about the Hunter S. Thompson thing is, I don't... He may have said since the 70s he wanted to kill himself, but I don't believe that right now He would have wanted to do that because everybody knew that... Oh yeah, that plays into it if people talk like that.

02:53:48.000 Listen, thanks for the call.

02:53:49.000 Let's talk to Jeremy in Florida.

02:53:51.000 Jeremy, you there?

02:53:53.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

02:53:54.000 Hello?

02:53:56.000 Yeah, yeah, you're on the air.

02:53:58.000 Go ahead.

02:53:58.000 Yeah, I was wondering if you've ever seen the movie Enemy of the State with Will Smith?

02:54:02.000 Yes.

02:54:04.000 You know John Boyd's character in there who's really pushing for the movie version of the Patriot Act?

02:54:08.000 Yes.

02:54:09.000 In the movie, his birthday is 9-11-1940.

02:54:13.000 No, I know, and they started building the Pentagon on 9-11.

02:54:20.000 It goes on and on, yeah.

02:54:21.000 Okay, and yesterday I heard you talking about people denying black helicopters, and it's pretty funny because after you said that, I actually saw my first black helicopter fly right over with no markings, no serial number.

02:54:33.000 All they are are special operations night mission helicopters.

02:54:41.000 It's just people still, the media says you're a kook.

02:54:43.000 If you talk about them, you can go to military bases and see hundreds of them lined up.

02:54:46.000 Uh-huh.

02:54:48.000 Yeah, I mean, you saw a dozen every couple of hours in Baghdad.

02:54:53.000 Well, they don't exist, even if you videotape them.

02:54:55.000 Thanks for the call, Jeremy.

02:54:58.000 Let's talk to Steve in New York.

02:55:00.000 Last caller, go ahead.

02:55:01.000 Hello, how are you doing, Alex?

02:55:02.000 Good.

02:55:03.000 You're doing a great job down there.

02:55:05.000 Thank you.

02:55:05.000 I just ordered your video.

02:55:07.000 Thank you.

02:55:08.000 I always order your videos.

02:55:09.000 They're excellent.

02:55:10.000 And keep up the good work.

02:55:13.000 Well, hugs and kisses to you.

02:55:15.000 Thank you.

02:55:16.000 I know.

02:55:17.000 Take care, my friend.

02:55:19.000 We're flat out of time.

02:55:21.000 Sorry I didn't have time to take more of your calls.

02:55:23.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, and back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:55:26.000 And don't forget, tomorrow, because I've had so many requests for last Tuesday's show that for some reason didn't re-air at night, so many requests re-air that one about all these occult buildings and how our capitals are built with these occult specifications.

02:55:39.000 It's now admitted that we're going to re-air that.

02:55:42.000 The second two hours tomorrow, so tell your friends and family, everybody, to tune in.

02:55:46.000 Again, Paul, William Roberts, a real pleasure having you on, my friend.

02:55:49.000 Pleasure was all mine, and you've got a great show there, and you're doing great work.

02:55:54.000 Well, thanks for spending two and a half hours with us.

02:55:57.000 It was a real pleasure.

02:55:58.000 And I look forward to talking to you in the future.

02:56:02.000 Do you need my address off air?

02:56:04.000 I'll email your assistant.

02:56:07.000 All right.

02:56:07.000 God bless you.

02:56:08.000 Thank you.

02:56:09.000 Take care.

02:56:09.000 All right, my friends.

02:56:11.000 It's not about left or right.

02:56:12.000 It's about right and wrong.

02:56:13.000 It's about humanity and liberty and life versus tyranny and death.

02:56:17.000 That's your choice.

02:56:18.000 Remember, God loves you, and you stand up and help yourself.

02:56:22.000 God will help you.

02:56:23.000 But if we lay down to this evil, it's over for humanity.

02:56:26.000 Don't forget the new film, Martial Law is out.

Alex Jones Show - March 03, 2005

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