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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:21.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:38.000 It is the 14th day already of March 2005.

00:00:43.000 I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:00:45.000 We'll be live for the next three hours with wide open telephones.

00:00:49.000 Coming up in the second hour, investigative journalist who's written for WorldNet Daily and a dozen other major publications, who's really covered the 9-11 whitewash like no one else has, going to almost all the different congressional meetings, It has also been researching...

00:01:10.000 All of the confirmed reports of male prostitutes, underage male prostitutes, you name it, swirling around the White House and how this connects into the Gannon case, how it connects into the Franklin cover-up, how it connects in with the mysterious death of Hunter S. Thompson.

00:01:32.000 Tom Flacco will be joining us coming up in the next hour.

00:01:38.000 Here's the headline.

00:01:39.000 Photographer tied to child sex ring.

00:01:42.000 Arrested after Thompson's suicide.

00:01:45.000 And it's a lengthy 12-page report that he's put out.

00:01:49.000 It's on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:01:52.000 And we'll be analyzing that coming up in the next hour.

00:01:56.000 Also, 8 dead in U.S.

00:01:58.000 church massacre.

00:02:00.000 It's like someone flipped a switch and now this individual goes into the courthouse and grabs the gun away, shoots and kills three people, injures another.

00:02:10.000 He's now been captured and then on top of it, somebody walks into a church meeting at a Sheraton hotel and starts blasting right at the time.

00:02:19.000 Even Rush Limbaugh has said this.

00:02:21.000 It's always interesting when they introduce all these gun bills that magically this stuff starts happening.

00:02:25.000 Is it a coincidence or is it part of something larger?

00:02:29.000 Or in a country of 290 million people, are you occasionally going to have mass shootings?

00:02:34.000 In fact, overall shootings in this country are down by about 14% of what they were just 7 years ago.

00:02:42.000 On a 20 year average, it's down over 20%.

00:02:45.000 And a lot of that is because of concealed carry.

00:02:49.000 Because a lot of your gangland and home invasion shootings are down because there's more Americans with guns today. 0.52

00:02:56.000 But somebody tuning in to watch the mainstream media and major studies will tell you in major polls that they think there's an epidemic of crime, that there's more crime.

00:03:05.000 It's like they'll tell you there's an epidemic out there of child kidnapping, when actually the numbers are way down from what they were just ten years ago as well.

00:03:17.000 So we'll be talking about that.

00:03:18.000 But the courthouse shooting suspect defiant and proud, the prosecutors are saying.

00:03:23.000 We'll also get into this report out of Reuters.

00:03:29.000 Al-Qaeda ally may target U.S.

00:03:32.000 theaters and schools.

00:03:36.000 MSNBC, no evidence Al-Qaeda knew of a grid bombing a year and What, three days ago?

00:03:42.000 Of course they weren't involved.

00:03:44.000 It was LCI ADA.

00:03:46.000 That's mainstream news in Spain.

00:03:49.000 Activists rally to save Terri Schiavo.

00:03:53.000 And of course you know now about the million dollar offer by a TV tycoon for Michael Cockroach Schiavo to not kill her.

00:04:05.000 To not go ahead with the order to take her feeding tube away.

00:04:09.000 So we'll be going over that report.

00:04:12.000 Growing fears that credit boom may implode.

00:04:14.000 This from the Financial Times of London.

00:04:18.000 Interesting article here out of the Detroit News.

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00:04:32.000 Bird flu clusters may signal virus change.

00:04:35.000 That's what the World Health Organization is saying.

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00:08:08.000 All right, big broadcast lined up for you today.

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00:08:22.000 We're going to talk to award-winning investigative journalist, Tom Flacco.

00:08:27.000 And no, it's not going to be about 9-11.

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00:08:47.000 No, we're not going to have Tom on about that, as we've had him on many times before.

00:08:51.000 No, he's done really an in-depth Sterling investigation of the homosexual rings in the White House and its connection to the pedophile rings and it's all from court records and mainstream news.

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00:09:26.000 Get you up and on the air.

00:09:27.000 Eight dead in a U.S.

00:09:28.000 31. It's up and on the air.

00:09:33.000 Eight dead in U.S. church massacre.

00:09:36.000 Seven people have been shot dead and several others hurt by a gunman who opened fire at a U.S. church.

00:09:43.000 church service.

00:09:44.000 The gunman shot and killed himself after the shooting spree.

00:09:47.000 Well, see, if guns were just banned, he would have followed the law and wouldn't have done this.

00:09:52.000 You know, he's willing to kill a bunch of people and kill himself, but he would have followed the law and not gotten a gun to do it.

00:09:58.000 Of course, I'm being sarcastic, and again, actual mass shooting numbers are way down, upwards of twenty percent, From what they were a decade ago.

00:10:09.000 That's like 14% just in the last few years.

00:10:11.000 It's continuing to drop because most of these quote mass shootings that go into the statistics are gangs shooting each other.

00:10:20.000 If a group of Italian gangsters shoot each other, Or a group of Irish mobsters shoot each other.

00:10:25.000 More often, Mexican mafias shoot each other. 0.99

00:10:28.000 Or black gangsters, the Crips and the Bloods. 1.00

00:10:31.000 It's counted as a mass shooting and not as a criminal gang war.

00:10:36.000 It goes into those statistics and the media says, You know, 15, 20 children this year were killed in mass shootings.

00:10:44.000 And they don't tell you that almost all of those were gang members shooting each other in shootouts.

00:10:50.000 But even those shootings are way down.

00:10:54.000 Even those numbers are way down, but the average American, they've got all the different polls and studies, tunes in to television and watches all the docudramas and all the newscasts and it all runs together, reality and reality becomes unreality after they spin it.

00:11:11.000 And the average American will tell you they think crime is rampant.

00:11:15.000 They think it's just unbelievably bad.

00:11:19.000 And that's just not the case.

00:11:20.000 The only crime A group of crimes that is up in this country are in select areas of the nation, namely along the southern border.

00:11:33.000 Crime is actually up around 10% just in the last two years along the southern border because you've got millions of desperate people coming across in Cochise County and Arizona and other areas, South Texas, the Mexican Mafia, most of them Mexican Special Forces.

00:11:49.000 This has been on the Dallas Morning News at Houston Chronicle.

00:11:53.000 I covered it a few weeks ago, are coming across and murdering people.

00:11:56.000 I mean, even small-time drug dealers that aren't paying their cut.

00:12:01.000 So we have that mafia moving in to the Southwest, predominantly in Texas and Arizona, are the real hot spots.

00:12:08.000 Federal officers being killed, being maimed, Forest Service, FBI, Border Patrol being killed, being taken hostage, being beaten.

00:12:18.000 I mean, you can just type that into a search engine, mainstream news articles will pop up for you.

00:12:23.000 Those are really the only areas other than car theft.

00:12:26.000 Car theft is up too.

00:12:27.000 Because they've lowered the penalties for car theft.

00:12:30.000 My car, many years ago, was stolen in Dallas when I was up visiting a girlfriend.

00:12:36.000 And the cops wouldn't even come out and do a report for it.

00:12:38.000 I got mad and hung up the phone.

00:12:40.000 Didn't say anything mean.

00:12:41.000 I just said, fine.

00:12:42.000 And hung the 911 call up without permission.

00:12:45.000 So angry police showed up.

00:12:48.000 at my girlfriend's apartment, and kind of demanded their way in, just walked right past me, started searching around, and I said, what are you here for?

00:12:55.000 I said, now you're going to fill out a report about my stolen vehicle.

00:12:58.000 That was found a day later, you know, script.

00:13:01.000 But, um, again, I digress.

00:13:05.000 The point is, crime is down big time.

00:13:09.000 Big time.

00:13:10.000 So what's the government doing?

00:13:11.000 They're erecting all these laws for petty things. 0.72

00:13:15.000 Arguing with the police is now resisting.

00:13:17.000 Or protesting, you get jail time.

00:13:20.000 Just hundreds of new ways to get people into the system.

00:13:25.000 And because, I mean, they've gone from 1.3 million in prison to 7 million in the system now, just in the last, what, 8 years.

00:13:33.000 So it's getting worse and worse.

00:13:35.000 And they're building more prisons.

00:13:36.000 And every day I see articles, prison overcrowding, there's a problem!

00:13:39.000 Why, Texas has prison overcrowding!

00:13:41.000 We've got to get more prisons!

00:13:44.000 Texas has more prisons than any other state in the Union, and if Texas was a country, it'd be number five for prisoners.

00:13:53.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:13:54.000 The state of Texas, number five in the world!

00:13:58.000 They built so many prisons here, and when you drive out in the country, that's all you'll see is giant prisons.

00:14:02.000 Literally, come down to our state, they bring them in from all these other states.

00:14:07.000 And then they'll do stuff like go, oh, there's overcrowding.

00:14:10.000 We've got to, right after they build some juvenile justice centers, some giant compound to put your children in, after they build some new law enforcement center, five years later, oh, we've got to expand it.

00:14:21.000 There's not enough beds in it.

00:14:24.000 Killers are going to get you.

00:14:28.000 So, but in a sick way, the argument's true.

00:14:30.000 It actually has made crime go down, because they actually now are keeping real criminals in jail a few years longer, but so many other innocent people as well, so it's kind of a catch-22.

00:14:48.000 I mean, crime is still high.

00:14:50.000 You look at our crime numbers from a hundred years ago, I wish I could draw a graph out on radio, but I can't.

00:14:58.000 But if you just go online and go to universities and criminology departments and look at crime rates, a hundred year graph, say from 1900 to 2000, and you see it explode!

00:15:12.000 Bearing prohibition.

00:15:14.000 So let's imagine the Himalayan Mountains, or the Rocky Mountains.

00:15:17.000 You know how you'll have foothills and then it builds up to larger peaks and then finally you'll have the biggest peaks?

00:15:25.000 You know, the highest peak?

00:15:27.000 Well, picture it as just almost no crime in this country.

00:15:31.000 I mean, a double murder would be national news for months.

00:15:34.000 It was incredible.

00:15:36.000 Just hardly any crime.

00:15:38.000 A shootout out west would be the stuff of legends and 20 books would be written about it.

00:15:45.000 Well, that builds up until Prohibition and then you start getting some pretty big mountains.

00:15:50.000 It goes up substantively.

00:15:54.000 But still, nothing compared to the 1950s and 60s.

00:16:00.000 Television!

00:16:01.000 The advent of television and the violence on television, almost immediately injected, people got desensitized and it caused more and more murders, more and more people to think that, well that's how I'm supposed to act, I'm supposed to kill people.

00:16:16.000 But by seeing that imagery over and over again, there's a lot of major studies that show this.

00:16:20.000 But, what those studies don't take into account, something I do take into account, is that we just had a huge war.

00:16:27.000 Millions of people came home who had seen violence, who had killed, and they admit that a lot of the new gangs and crime rings were peopled by soldiers.

00:16:36.000 Then Korea came. 0.98

00:16:38.000 Really violent!

00:16:39.000 And out of that you've got the Hells Angels and all these other groups.

00:16:42.000 So, that's another part of it.

00:16:43.000 Wars always create a larger criminal group, a group that's desensitized.

00:16:49.000 The government even writes up documents and plans where they say that wars help get them future personnel.

00:16:56.000 That's why Hitler was so effective. 1.00

00:16:58.000 He had all those World War I veterans.

00:17:01.000 That was the most vicious war ever.

00:17:03.000 To make up his body of individuals.

00:17:08.000 Now I've been on a ten minute diatribe.

00:17:09.000 The point is, eight dead in U.S.

00:17:11.000 church massacres, seven people have been shot dead, and several others hurt by a gunman who opened fire at a U.S.

00:17:17.000 church service.

00:17:18.000 The gunman shot and killed himself after the shooting spree.

00:17:21.000 The incident happened.

00:17:24.000 On Saturday at the Sheraton Hotel in Brookville, Wisconsin, where the service was regularly staged, four died at the scene and three others died later.

00:17:33.000 Other injuries, police said, they range in age from teenagers to over 60s.

00:17:38.000 People said they were not seeking anyone else in connection with the shootings.

00:17:42.000 Now remember, that we had Larry Ashbrook.

00:17:46.000 What was it, about 99?

00:17:47.000 Larry Ashbrook.

00:17:51.000 This was only on the radio and the newspaper that day and the next day.

00:17:55.000 He walks into the Baptist Youth Meeting at the Big Baptist Church in downtown Fort Worth, Texas.

00:18:04.000 And he begins yelling, Hail Satan! 0.99

00:18:07.000 Die Christians! 1.00

00:18:09.000 Shooting the Christians! 1.00

00:18:10.000 I don't know, he killed like, I think it was about ten people, I'm going from memory here. 0.94

00:18:14.000 And then, it actually came out the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that he had been in the Navy, And that he would have gone to the police, gone to the paper, and he said, look, I'm under mind control.

00:18:26.000 They're telling me to kill people. 0.77

00:18:29.000 Please. 1.00

00:18:30.000 Please.

00:18:31.000 And this was after Columbine, by the way.

00:18:33.000 You know, things were even heightened then.

00:18:35.000 You know, when your kid says the word gun, or writes the word gun in an article, he gets arrested. 0.94

00:18:38.000 But this guy is telling them, I've been programmed to kill.

00:18:42.000 It happened when I was in the Navy.

00:18:44.000 And then neighbors even saw what he claimed.

00:18:47.000 Men in a white van pulling him out of his house about a week before it happened. 0.95

00:18:51.000 Then he went completely ape, tore his house up, poured cement in the toilet and the bathtub, went totally crazy, and went in and started shooting people and then sat down and blew his own head off.

00:19:04.000 It turned out he was friends with Buford Furrow. 0.74

00:19:07.000 This was in the Houston Chronicle.

00:19:08.000 They were part of the Phineas Priest.

00:19:11.000 of the supposed white supremacist group.

00:19:13.000 It turned out Buford Furrow lived at a U.S.

00:19:16.000 military base, Air Force base, in Washington State and had an email address that was with the National Security Council.

00:19:23.000 Same folks running the drills on 9-11 of flying hijacked jets in the buildings.

00:19:27.000 Always leads back to those guys.

00:19:29.000 And that he had been a government operative.

00:19:32.000 And he just goes and turns himself in nicely.

00:19:35.000 He's the guy that shot up the Jewish Center.

00:19:38.000 So, it just gets worse and worse and worse.

00:19:40.000 I don't know what this is.

00:19:42.000 I don't know what's going on here.

00:19:44.000 But, um... Very interesting.

00:19:48.000 And now they're saying Al-Qaeda plans to hit the schools!

00:19:51.000 Well, we gotta turn our guns in to stop Al-Qaeda. 0.75

00:19:54.000 We'll cover that when we get back and take your calls.

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00:24:17.000 We got an internal FBI report, even before it was in the Associated Press, we told you about it from our sources, that Al-Cieda is planning, somewhere in the Southwest, to walk into a public school and mow down, and I mean, it's going to be systematic, hundreds of children.

00:24:36.000 And of course, that's because the federal guidelines are that the school will be locked down once someone's in it.

00:24:41.000 That's the official rule.

00:24:43.000 The principals have these automatic systems where it's literally prison doors, wire mesh on the windows.

00:24:49.000 If there's a shooter inside, they lock it down, and the mass death begins.

00:24:54.000 At Columbine, the SWAT team stayed outside for over four hours.

00:25:00.000 I'd always thought almost four hours, but I had the editor of the Rocky Mountain News on a few years ago talking about the case, and he goes, oh no, Alex, I was there.

00:25:08.000 It was four hours, fifteen minutes from the time they got there.

00:25:12.000 And they would allow no one in, no one to be helped who was bleeding to death.

00:25:15.000 There were no shots coming out of the building.

00:25:17.000 They were ordered to do it by the feds.

00:25:20.000 And it then came out in the Denver Post and in the Rocky Mountain News that at least, this is bare minimum, two of the children, my numbers are six, were shot by SWAT team members when they tried to exit the building.

00:25:36.000 Now, a teacher, one of the SWAT team members, was crying.

00:25:41.000 Saying, oh, I blew his head off, I blew his head off.

00:25:43.000 So the teacher had a little recorder and recorded this, and that's why it all came out in court.

00:25:48.000 They declared national security on a bunch of it.

00:25:51.000 But I'm just trying to give you the background of all of this.

00:25:54.000 And, of course, you've got Eric Harris and Clyball, both on psychotropic drugs.

00:26:01.000 One of their fathers was an Air Force officer at a secret base.

00:26:05.000 The other was a theoretical physicist for NASA.

00:26:08.000 The FBI, the son of an FBI agent, founded the Trenchcoat Mafia in 97.

00:26:14.000 At the school, Harris and Kleibold were part of a gifted program, had been through the special death education program that first started at Columbine in 1990.

00:26:23.000 It was a 1991-2020 special about it, where they put the children in coffins until one of them almost suffocated.

00:26:29.000 You think I'm joking?

00:26:30.000 I have the 2020 news piece, the clips and the articles about it in my film, The Takeover.

00:26:38.000 So it was a major mind control operation.

00:26:41.000 And the children running out, I have these clips from CNN and other places, they came running out going, there were four men, four men in masks, they were shooting us!

00:26:48.000 And all they have for proof for you is just a shot of Harrison Klebold walking through a lunchroom with rifles.

00:26:53.000 with rifles.

00:26:54.000 So, very, very interesting.

00:27:00.000 Thank you.

00:27:01.000 Thank you.

00:27:02.000 Very, very interesting.

00:27:03.000 All of this stuff going on.

00:27:05.000 All of this stuff happening.

00:27:09.000 And all of these shootings are extremely, extremely suspect.

00:27:15.000 And the way they get hyped up.

00:27:16.000 And of course, the school was half empty that day.

00:27:18.000 It's roughly half empty.

00:27:21.000 That's mainstream news.

00:27:22.000 And the sheriff was having an early lunch with the principal.

00:27:28.000 Down the street of the Subway Shop.

00:27:31.000 And how did Harrison Kleibold get a hundred plus bombs, improvised explosive propane bombs, in the school before they started shooting from the parking lot?

00:27:42.000 Over one hundred bombs!

00:27:45.000 Two people!

00:27:47.000 In a school with cameras.

00:27:48.000 It was a modern school.

00:27:49.000 With the cameras all over it.

00:27:50.000 How'd they get one hundred and like fifteen bombs.

00:27:54.000 Some of them huge backpack size bombs.

00:27:57.000 How'd their vehicle hold that?

00:27:58.000 They load it into the vehicle and suddenly start shooting in the parking lot going into the school.

00:28:03.000 And they have their own kind of little artificial lockdown.

00:28:06.000 Where if you tried to leave they'd shoot you.

00:28:09.000 And they sit there for four hours.

00:28:11.000 Making sure folks really doing the shooting got a chance to get away.

00:28:16.000 Unbelievable!

00:28:17.000 And so this dovetails with this article, report Al-Qaeda may target U.S.

00:28:22.000 theater schools.

00:28:25.000 And a flashback, Iraqi sources Al-Zawahiri arrested just like the staged Saddam capture.

00:28:30.000 They claim they've captured him now four times.

00:28:32.000 And then a month later they always capture him again.

00:28:34.000 And they never say that the old one was a false capture.

00:28:38.000 The Kurds had caught months before. 0.61

00:28:39.000 He was found in a hole.

00:28:40.000 They'll hold him until it's politically expedient and then he'll be discovered.

00:28:44.000 This despite the fact that we were told that he was already killed once and arrested twice.

00:28:49.000 Four times, Paul.

00:28:50.000 Arrested four times.

00:28:51.000 And then here's the Reuters article, Abu Massab al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's chief ally in Iraq, may be planning attacks on soft targets in the United States, including movie theaters, restaurants, and schools, Time Magazine reported Sunday.

00:29:04.000 White House National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley would not discuss the specific warning which Time was circulating among U.S.

00:29:14.000 security agencies.

00:29:16.000 Last week, in a restricted bulletin, he reported this six months ago.

00:29:20.000 But he said the administration was concerned about reports which we think are very credible that Zawahiri is working more closely with Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization.

00:29:32.000 Just like Operation Northwood says we need to kill kids, or use lists of young people on the death list When we remote control crash an aircraft, because that makes the people get really mad.

00:29:44.000 Yeah!

00:29:45.000 You take a mammal's young, mammals get upset.

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00:33:10.000 it's alex jones and the g_c_n_ radio network all right my friends your calls are coming up here momentarily and then i'm going to plunge into the rest of all this important news but but you saw the shootings in russia Where supposedly these people are held up holding hundreds of children and teachers hostage.

00:33:39.000 And I go, folks, this is a government op.

00:33:41.000 I go, I don't know that, but that's what my gut tells me.

00:33:44.000 And then we got Vladimir Putin.

00:33:46.000 Who was caught in 99 as Vice President with his FSB planting bombs in a fourth building by Moscow police.

00:33:54.000 They arrested FSB planting hexogen bombs, the same bombs that were used to blow up three other buildings.

00:34:00.000 Then they blame it on the Chechens. 0.98

00:34:02.000 The Chechen leaders said, are you crazy? 0.99

00:34:04.000 Why would we blow you up and then get the Russian people behind invading us? 1.00

00:34:08.000 We're not doing this!

00:34:10.000 Again, who stands to gain?

00:34:11.000 Why would the Arabs really attack us? 1.00

00:34:15.000 Are they stupid? 1.00

00:34:16.000 No! 1.00

00:34:17.000 No, they're not stupid. 1.00

00:34:20.000 It's like punching the 800-pound gorilla when you're a, you know, 95-pound weakling who's on crutches. 1.00

00:34:29.000 It's just mindless.

00:34:31.000 I mean, just the common sense.

00:34:32.000 So I'm looking at it, I'm like, during the siege, I'm on record, I said, you watch, something's going to happen, the place is going to blow up, something to confuse everybody.

00:34:43.000 And the real group that did the kidnappings in their mask will slip out the back, and then somebody that they, you know, shoot up with drugs will be the sole survivor.

00:34:50.000 I mean, I said this on air, and it's not that I have a crystal ball.

00:34:53.000 I know how they operate.

00:34:55.000 The magician creates a fog with sleight of hand while he misdirects you, and then you buy the story.

00:35:01.000 And sure enough, BOOM! 0.64

00:35:03.000 Uh, the, uh, Russians... Now, everybody saw the Russian troops, the special forces, go in, And so they had to admit that, well, they used a bomb to breach the wall.

00:35:17.000 Because everybody sees them rush in and it happens.

00:35:19.000 And then the terrorist inside detonated a bomb and started shooting everybody. 0.92

00:35:26.000 But then all the terrorists are killed. 0.97

00:35:29.000 Everybody is killed.

00:35:31.000 Except for one guy who they haul out and he looks all drugged out and wild-eyed.

00:35:35.000 And then they admit they torture him and then he goes off and gets convicted.

00:35:39.000 But then later it comes out.

00:35:41.000 Russian generals involved ordering troops out of the area, ordering police out of the area.

00:35:46.000 Russian government involved giving explosives to the supposed terrorists.

00:35:51.000 I mean, that's all mainstream Russian and British and Dutch and French and German news now.

00:35:57.000 We've got a whole section on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:36:01.000 And what do they do?

00:36:02.000 They send in their special forces in their masks.

00:36:05.000 They hold everybody hostage, wait till all the news cameras get there.

00:36:08.000 Normally, Putin won't let news cameras aim at anything over there, but for this, you know, they let everybody get assembled, aim their cameras.

00:36:16.000 You know, oh, see, I told you we gotta take your rights and we gotta fight the terrorists.

00:36:19.000 Look what's happened!

00:36:21.000 And then, boom, they blow the real terrorists slip out the back, which they now admit, quote, the terrorists were able to escape most of them, a large group of them.

00:36:29.000 The real special forces slip out.

00:36:31.000 The people are all standing there, start running for their lives.

00:36:34.000 They're gone!

00:36:34.000 We've been let go!

00:36:35.000 Let's go!

00:36:37.000 And the Russian troops fire!

00:36:40.000 Boom! 0.99

00:36:41.000 Explosions!

00:36:42.000 Ah, look! 0.94

00:36:42.000 The terrorists are shooting their own people! 0.94

00:36:44.000 Well, wait! 0.69

00:36:45.000 It shows the Russian troops shooting.

00:36:46.000 Well, they're firing at the terrorists, trying to save the other people!

00:36:50.000 Boom! 0.99

00:36:50.000 It looks like the spitsnatchers blew the building up! 0.99

00:36:52.000 Oh, no!

00:36:53.000 They're fighting the evil terrorists!

00:36:57.000 All the terrorists were killed, except for the Eight or nine that escaped right before it happened.

00:37:02.000 I mean, it's so, it's the same thing with the theater siege.

00:37:04.000 I could go right, same MMO.

00:37:06.000 Guys in masks go in.

00:37:08.000 They all don gas masks at the end.

00:37:10.000 They release a gas, kills 160 plus people. 0.99

00:37:13.000 Now they run in, shoot everybody. 0.96

00:37:15.000 Oh, all the terrorists were killed.

00:37:18.000 And then the reports come out that right before it happened, a bunch of guys slip out the back as the gas is being released.

00:37:24.000 That way the people all get knocked out and don't see that, uh, you know, that the terrorists slip out.

00:37:29.000 But a few people that did survive say, yeah, right before it happened, these guys pull out masks and put them on!

00:37:34.000 It's all sleight of hand!

00:37:36.000 And we're going to have to put up with this here, folks!

00:37:39.000 And, um... Man, I don't know. 0.99

00:37:42.000 I guess we're going to sit here on TV while they kill a bunch of kids. 0.90

00:37:45.000 They'll probably go on for hours. 0.98

00:37:46.000 They'll go on for days.

00:37:47.000 They can go on for weeks.

00:37:49.000 And they'll do absolutely nothing, and then there'll be some big explosion, and then the guys will slip out.

00:37:54.000 They'll change back into, you know, police uniforms and slip out the back, and George Bush will get up on TV and cry and say, sorry, we're registering all guns, we're going to start selectively arresting people who we think shouldn't have guns if you're under the suspicion of terrorism.

00:38:08.000 On the terrorist watch list, they're already announcing this last week, you aren't going to be able to own a gun, turn them in.

00:38:13.000 And you know, I never thought we'd need to turn them in, but I'm going to have to put my guns at a gun club and I chuck them out. 0.98

00:38:21.000 Remember I get to go shootin', but darn it! 0.98

00:38:24.000 Al-Qaeda hit our school! 0.99

00:38:26.000 And I ain't about to put up with no more!

00:38:29.000 Alex Jones, you turn your guns in, boy!

00:38:32.000 These things changed after... after the attack on the college or the attack on the school.

00:38:39.000 It'll probably be an attack on an elementary school.

00:38:42.000 And I'll have to sit here and hear it and watch it and watch the serial killers on TV as our saviors and... Yes, I'm making a prediction.

00:38:51.000 Yes, I can see it clearly.

00:38:55.000 Man, get your children out of these public schools, please, for heaven's sake. 0.97

00:38:59.000 Please, God, move these people to wake up, get them out. 0.92

00:39:05.000 It's just disgusting.

00:39:08.000 The point is, it's not that statistically your school is going to get hit by this.

00:39:11.000 It's that these are atmospheres that have been set up for this.

00:39:16.000 And if you don't think the globalists won't kill a bunch of kids to get control of stuff, again, you're living on another planet.

00:39:23.000 You don't know history.

00:39:24.000 You don't know facts.

00:39:25.000 I mean, Gladiola that I talked about, I put the Operation Gladiola in the takeover.

00:39:29.000 Made that back in 2000.

00:39:31.000 But, excuse me, Gladiola is in the takeover.

00:39:34.000 Made that in 2002.

00:39:36.000 But Gladiola is now getting a lot more attention, where the CIA, for a decade in Italy, would machine gun a bunch of people at a school, blow up a school bus, one of their favorites, Assassinate people, bomb downtown areas.

00:39:50.000 I mean, they killed hundreds.

00:39:53.000 And it's just now publicly admitted.

00:39:54.000 Okay, alright, the government carried out the attacks to blame it on their political enemies.

00:40:00.000 And that's what happened.

00:40:03.000 There's no if, ands, or buts.

00:40:06.000 There's no discussion.

00:40:07.000 It's now admitted.

00:40:08.000 AP, London Guardian, BBC.

00:40:12.000 It's public.

00:40:13.000 Public officials have admitted it.

00:40:15.000 I'm listening to NPR, as I said, in the Home Depot parking lot a few months ago, with my mouth hanging open.

00:40:20.000 I knew it about Mozadek, but I couldn't believe they were admitting it.

00:40:23.000 They had Kermit Roosevelt on, the grandson of Roosevelt, and all these people going, yeah, 1953, we hired 2,000 thugs, we machine-gunned, we bombed Mosque, and we screamed, up with Mozadek, up with communism. 0.76

00:40:36.000 Of course, Mozadek was anti-communist and pro-West, Man of the Year, two years before that, threw the communists out.

00:40:43.000 But he wouldn't give the Globalists all his oil, so they put the Shaw in. 0.97

00:40:46.000 And here they were, just calmly admitting it on NPR, like it was good and normal.

00:40:52.000 Oh yeah, we killed a bunch of people, we bombed stuff.

00:40:56.000 I mean, they just do it over and over, and they were admitting it!

00:41:00.000 The people that did it were proud of themselves!

00:41:05.000 They're proud of themselves! 0.96

00:41:06.000 Hiring 2,000 thugs in all their different cities to run around bombing, slaughtering, killing, machine gunning, and then screaming, Mozedek! 1.00

00:41:15.000 Mozedek! 0.98

00:41:16.000 Oh, up with Mozedek! 0.98

00:41:17.000 We're doing it!

00:41:17.000 And Mozedek fought them and tried to arrest them and got thrown out.

00:41:21.000 And then they go on the air and they admit it 50 years later.

00:41:25.000 I mean, they go on the air and they brag about it.

00:41:32.000 And you people out there are still in denial!

00:41:36.000 Heaven help us! 0.99

00:41:39.000 Heaven help whatever school or mall this scum picks. 0.99

00:41:44.000 But I am so angry about this. 0.99

00:41:47.000 I'm sitting here, I want to save these lives.

00:41:50.000 It's like I know a serial killer is in our town.

00:41:52.000 I know he's going to strike again.

00:41:54.000 I know who he is.

00:41:56.000 I know what he's going to do.

00:41:58.000 And I'm sitting here telling a lot of you, and you're not going to listen.

00:42:01.000 We're going to have to watch him do it. 0.99

00:42:03.000 I have to sit here, and I have to watch them kill, and kill, and kill, and kill, and kill, and kill!

00:42:13.000 Over and over again, and then, unlike any serial killer case in history, I have to watch them on TV tearing up and telling you to give your liberties up and make them God, basically.

00:42:25.000 It's too rich.

00:42:26.000 It's too much.

00:42:27.000 It's off the scale.

00:42:29.000 Oh, it just blows my mind.

00:42:39.000 I'll get to this later.

00:42:40.000 I promise to go to your calls.

00:42:41.000 We'll go to them.

00:42:42.000 John in Texas, go ahead.

00:42:46.000 Hello?

00:42:46.000 Go ahead, John.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, you keep talking to him.

00:42:51.000 Alright, let him go.

00:42:52.000 He doesn't know he's on.

00:42:52.000 Alex, can you hear me?

00:42:53.000 Yes.

00:42:54.000 Okay.

00:42:56.000 I've seen in a paper the other day in the Houston Chronicle that Iranian President Mohammad Khatami was visiting Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

00:43:05.000 Yes.

00:43:07.000 And I do know that our good friends and trading partners, the Red Chinese, are down there cutting all kinds of sweet art deals, and I surely have military people down there. 0.95

00:43:14.000 And not too long ago, George Bush's good friend, Vladimir Putin, the guy he'd look into and see his soul and could trust him, sold him 200,000 AK-47 assault rifles.

00:43:26.000 I just wonder what the deal is down there.

00:43:28.000 Well, it's a very complex situation.

00:43:30.000 You know that over 20,000 Chinese troops are in Panama.

00:43:34.000 Oh yeah, if they control the canal.

00:43:35.000 And they've taken over all of our old bases, and our government could have gotten it back, and the Republicans controlled the House and Senate in 2000, went along with Bill Clinton, and the conservatives said, you're not conservative if you don't get the canal over.

00:43:50.000 And Putin is openly saying he'll go after us, so will the Chinese. 0.79

00:43:55.000 But our government isn't worried about them.

00:43:56.000 No, no, they're worried about Iran and Syria, who are third world countries and have done nothing to us.

00:44:02.000 Well, it seems like Iran has tried to put a force inside of our hemisphere. 0.99

00:44:07.000 Well, no.

00:44:09.000 See, the neocons will do that. 0.99

00:44:10.000 Look, our government is criminal.

00:44:11.000 Let me just go over this, okay?

00:44:15.000 Our government is controlled by Europe. 0.87

00:44:18.000 So we're being subdivided, deals have been made as they divide the world up, and our government's made the deal with the Trilateral Commission, this is all public, you can read their own public documents on this, to give much of our hemisphere to the Chinese. 0.97

00:44:34.000 That's the deal.

00:44:36.000 Okay?

00:44:37.000 And Iran is in OPEC, along with Venezuela, so Iran's over there trying to talk to them about production.

00:44:45.000 Because we get most of our oil from Venezuela.

00:44:48.000 Okay?

00:44:50.000 And so, yeah, the neocons will say, see, Chavez is bad. 0.98

00:44:53.000 He's an evil communist. 0.87

00:44:55.000 He's in league with Iran. 0.96

00:44:57.000 Iran's just over there dealing with oil.

00:45:01.000 Okay, they're not there because we're on their border, too, and they want to have a counterbalance or whatever.

00:45:06.000 Well, no, I mean, that could be.

00:45:07.000 Iran has said, if you hit us, we're going to hit you with everything we've got. 0.93

00:45:13.000 If you start using precision nukes on us, which I think is wrong.

00:45:16.000 I think they should take it. 0.99

00:45:17.000 I think if they know a cruise missile is coming, they should stand up on top of their Capitol building, open their shirt up and go, kill me, I'm your slave. 0.99

00:45:23.000 I have no right to fight back. 0.99

00:45:25.000 You are God. 1.00

00:45:26.000 But at the same time, Iran's not stupid. 0.99

00:45:28.000 They're saying, to be serious, your government's behind the terror. 0.98

00:45:32.000 We wouldn't attack anything.

00:45:33.000 Leave us alone.

00:45:34.000 These are peaceful reactors.

00:45:36.000 You know it.

00:45:37.000 British and Russian companies sold us this.

00:45:39.000 Why did you give real reactors to North Korea?

00:45:42.000 Why are you letting Pakistan have nukes? 0.99

00:45:44.000 We don't want nukes.

00:45:45.000 We've got inspectors in here.

00:45:47.000 Leave us alone.

00:45:49.000 But you don't think this is going to be a threat to our southern borders that it's not going to start getting worse down there?

00:45:54.000 Oh yeah, the globalists will tell you it's a threat and leave the border open still.

00:45:58.000 Yeah, I know the border's still open.

00:45:59.000 Hey, one other question I wanted to ask you. 0.94

00:46:02.000 The New World Order, the globalists, are all what you call organized criminals, gangsters.

00:46:06.000 You know, if you study anything about gangsters, whether it's political or whether they're criminal, they have nasty habits of double-crossing each other.

00:46:13.000 Is there any chance that they may decide that they don't need us anymore and could pull like a global St.

00:46:20.000 Valentine's Day massacre on us?

00:46:22.000 Well, I've had former top KGB people on, British MI6, CIA, and they'll tell you, the slickest in the world are the British.

00:46:29.000 And that's what we're modeled after.

00:46:31.000 Kind of a merger with that and the Gestapo.

00:46:34.000 And, uh, That's the model.

00:46:37.000 Because the British have been doing it the longest time. 0.99

00:46:40.000 And, I mean, look, when it comes to the European power bloc, they control things through the British, which are kind of like the center of the wheel.

00:46:49.000 And the U.S.

00:46:50.000 is kind of the big muscle man, or the Luca Bracci enforcer.

00:46:55.000 And it's all about globalism.

00:46:58.000 It's more sophisticated than that.

00:47:00.000 Listen, I appreciate your call, John.

00:47:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to... It's a consortium.

00:47:07.000 It's a syndicate.

00:47:08.000 It's a commission.

00:47:10.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Lenny in Texas.

00:47:12.000 Lenny, go ahead.

00:47:13.000 Yo, what's the deal, man?

00:47:14.000 I had a question and a comment.

00:47:16.000 I was listening to one of your broadcasts, and I heard you say that you're apparently 31, and you've been doing it since you were about 20.

00:47:25.000 One, how did you learn about the New World Order?

00:47:27.000 And two, what made you decide to devote your life to fighting?

00:47:32.000 Well, I get that question a lot, more and more.

00:47:34.000 I mean, I'd read a lot of history books.

00:47:36.000 I'd watch C-SPAN and see them say one thing and pass something, and I'd see CNN lie about it.

00:47:41.000 So I knew that there was lying and manipulation.

00:47:44.000 I knew the Federal Reserve was private.

00:47:46.000 I knew that we were losing our sovereignty.

00:47:49.000 I knew that Waco was wrong.

00:47:52.000 I knew that Oklahoma City was wrong.

00:47:53.000 That's right when I got involved, back in 1995.

00:47:59.000 So, really, it's been a journey for myself, learning more and more, learning about history, learning about how the globalists operate.

00:48:08.000 Okay.

00:48:10.000 Do you have any more news on this shooting or whatever happened in Atlanta?

00:48:17.000 I heard about the lockdown on the schools.

00:48:19.000 I'm not sure if that's exactly true or whatever.

00:48:23.000 Well no, the caller said that.

00:48:24.000 The caller said there was five states locked down and I could never find that.

00:48:28.000 I went home and watched TV and they said five states were under higher security level.

00:48:33.000 Schools in Atlanta...

00:48:35.000 And other areas were on lockdown.

00:48:37.000 And so that part is true.

00:48:39.000 I don't know about all five states.

00:48:42.000 But I do have the Washington Post and Gannett News Service from 2003, where they said if there's a red alert, the entire region or country will be locked down and you will have no rights and your children will be taken from you.

00:48:53.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

00:48:54.000 Good to hear from you, Lenny.

00:48:55.000 John in Alaska.

00:48:57.000 John, you're on the air.

00:48:58.000 Go ahead.

00:48:59.000 John hung up.

00:49:00.000 Okay.

00:49:01.000 Who's up next?

00:49:04.000 Richard in Nebraska, you're on the air, welcome.

00:49:06.000 Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that yesterday, about 6, between 6 and 6.30, Omaha time here on what they call the Good Life Cable television channel, they had a program called Homefront America, and where they had, they actually had a program at the school, ATF, Training to Combat Threats.

00:49:27.000 And if I had been watching it, luckily, I value the I valued my television more than I do the programming.

00:49:38.000 Otherwise, you would have gone through the screen.

00:49:42.000 So, let me guess, they were saying there's evil right-wingers everywhere, the real terrorists are in Al-Qaeda, it's the evil gun owners?

00:49:49.000 Yeah, and they were basically glorifying themselves, saying how good they were and how evil everybody else was and how they didn't make any mistakes and how Oh, they went on to where they ignored everything that they had been doing wrong.

00:50:05.000 And then they made a lot of lies as well, making them sound like they were the true... Were they trying to link gun ownership to terrorism?

00:50:18.000 Were they trying to link gun ownership to terrorism?

00:50:21.000 Yeah, in fact they even went... I just got that from the name, the Homefront.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, they even went so far as to... They're the commandos that guard the Homefront.

00:50:30.000 They're the incredible leaders that love you.

00:50:32.000 I wanted to let you know too, if you want to get the computer website for it or anything, they marked it down if you want to... Yeah, what's the name of the program again?

00:50:40.000 Okay, it was Homefront America.

00:50:45.000 And their computer website was Home Front America DOT EV, all in capital letters.

00:50:57.000 Alright, tell me more on the other side.

00:50:58.000 We'll be back.

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00:56:19.000 Finishing up real quick, Richard Nebraska.

00:56:21.000 So you saw this special on this show called Homefront America.

00:56:26.000 Boy, that sounds like an Orwellian titled program.

00:56:30.000 What was the rest of the website?

00:56:31.000 Homefront?

00:56:34.000 Homefrontamerica.tv.

00:56:37.000 All in capital letters.

00:56:43.000 If you want to look for the program episode, it's called ATF, Training to Combat Threats.

00:56:50.000 Well, isn't that nice of them?

00:56:51.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:52.000 Okay.

00:56:53.000 I appreciate it.

00:56:54.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't watch much TV, but I read the little synopses of all these different shows, and it's like everything now.

00:56:59.000 It's just everything's terrorism.

00:57:01.000 We wear a black mask.

00:57:02.000 We're going to take your rights, but it's for your own good.

00:57:05.000 We're infallible.

00:57:05.000 We're your government.

00:57:07.000 Worship us.

00:57:08.000 Randy in Florida.

00:57:09.000 Randy, go ahead.

00:57:12.000 Well, I hope you can hold me over from during the break.

00:57:15.000 I was at the rally for Terry yesterday.

00:57:19.000 In Florida?

00:57:19.000 Yeah, for Terry Shabo Schiller.

00:57:21.000 You know, and I wanted to give you a little report on it, but you're at the top of the hour here.

00:57:25.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:57:26.000 Okay, well, there was a statement read from Mel Gibson to her parents that said that he supports their efforts and their struggle to save her, and he called upon her, Michael Shabo, to surrender care and custody of her to her parents.

00:57:41.000 Well, that's good of Mr. Gibson.

00:57:43.000 There was a statement Pre-recorded remarks read from Dr. Dobson focused on the family.

00:57:51.000 What about this gentleman that offered a million bucks?

00:57:55.000 He's a multi-millionaire.

00:57:56.000 That's been turned down.

00:57:58.000 That really didn't get any coverage at the rally yesterday.

00:58:01.000 So he's already turned it down?

00:58:02.000 Yeah, and that expires at 5 o'clock today.

00:58:07.000 He's rejected that.

00:58:08.000 He said he's not here for the money.

00:58:09.000 He just doesn't want to betray Terry.

00:58:11.000 Oh really?

00:58:12.000 He'll get a million bucks of money if she's killed.

00:58:17.000 But, uh, well, the other thing is... From the settlement, yeah.

00:58:20.000 They had a surprise speaker there at the end.

00:58:22.000 It was a woman a little bit younger than Terry, from California, who was in a similar comatose... Well, Terry's not in a coma, but this woman was comatose for years on a feeding tube.

00:58:36.000 And they took her tube off for eight days, and she could feel herself being starved.

00:58:40.000 She said she was aware of everything that was going on in her room.

00:58:43.000 And they're pulling the tube at five o'clock today.

00:58:47.000 We'll be talking about that coming up.

00:58:48.000 Stay with us.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Investigating the Filth Cake Underbelly of the New World Order.

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00:59:24.000 With some unbelievable information here in just a few minutes.

00:59:27.000 A ton of other news.

00:59:28.000 They say how CIA is going to hit the schools and the malls.

00:59:32.000 But right now, let's go ahead and go back to your calls.

00:59:35.000 Johanna then Rodney.

00:59:36.000 Johanna in Tejas.

00:59:38.000 Go ahead.

00:59:39.000 Oh, hello.

00:59:40.000 May the Creator bless you.

00:59:42.000 I just have a few scriptures I wanted to read.

00:59:45.000 Because, first of all, I really appreciate everything you're doing.

00:59:48.000 I appreciate you.

00:59:49.000 I appreciate your love.

00:59:50.000 And I know that's what makes you so angry with everything that you know and you're witnessing.

00:59:56.000 And people need to understand that.

00:59:58.000 That if you didn't care so much, you wouldn't be so angry.

01:00:01.000 And also, people need to realize, if you and I feel that angry, how must the Creator see everything that's going on?

01:00:08.000 People need to understand how He feels, because He's real.

01:00:11.000 And that's why he's bringing judgment.

01:00:13.000 And in Psalm 92 verse 7 it says, When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish, it is that they shall be destroyed forever.

01:00:24.000 So what is happening is just prophecy, and we are supposed to put our trust in the Creator.

01:00:29.000 And he also says in Psalm 91, Because you have made the Creator which is my refuge, even the most high, your habitation, There shall no evil befall you, neither shall any plague come near your dwelling.

01:00:42.000 For he shall give his angels charge over you to keep you in all his ways.

01:00:46.000 He shall call upon me and I will answer him.

01:00:48.000 I will be with him in trouble.

01:00:50.000 I will deliver him and honor him.

01:00:52.000 With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation.

01:00:57.000 The only thing we can do is trust in the Creator, pray, and be sincere through repenting our sins first.

01:01:02.000 We have to pre-pent our sins in order to get close to the Creator.

01:01:06.000 We can't just pray and expect our Father to... Well, you're right.

01:01:09.000 That's why we should all, and all of us, do this every day.

01:01:11.000 We get into this decadent society, and that's how this system is able to get control of us, and we've all got to do that.

01:01:19.000 I appreciate your call.

01:01:21.000 Great points.

01:01:23.000 God bless you.

01:01:25.000 Rodney in Texas.

01:01:26.000 Rodney, go ahead.

01:01:27.000 Alex, how are you?

01:01:28.000 Long time no talk to, but I've been listening to you.

01:01:28.000 Good, sir.

01:01:32.000 Wonderful work that you're doing, and I'm looking forward to ordering your new video.

01:01:36.000 Well, thank you.

01:01:37.000 Now, here's what I need you to help me with, Alex, because I use much of your material to, well, debunk a lot of the lies from neocons and globalists.

01:01:49.000 Sure.

01:01:51.000 And I need you to connect the dots for me here.

01:01:53.000 Uh, this, uh, uh, journalist, Italian journalist who was, uh, the attempted assassination that was made on her life.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, she'd been doing reports on torture and the police state, and it's clear they were trying to kill her.

01:02:07.000 Okay, but here's what I need you to connect the dots.

01:02:10.000 Now, you know the CNN anchor, Yeah, when I have BBC and AP and AFP articles where the government admitted they were going to kill them before the war even started!

01:02:27.000 Okay, now I tried to discuss this with one of these neocon talk show people and he says I hear his statement. 0.68

01:02:35.000 I need you to help me.

01:02:37.000 Well, they had a Fox pundit last week go too bad she didn't get, you know, something to happen to her.

01:02:42.000 She deserves it.

01:02:43.000 This guy claims, well, these sort of things happen all the time.

01:02:46.000 And when the soldiers are in those situations, they have to make snaps.

01:02:52.000 It's admitted that it had diplomatic plates.

01:02:54.000 It's admitted that it was Negroponte's own security detail that former Death Squad commander, now head of all U.S. 1.00

01:02:59.000 reply to idiotic. 0.97

01:03:01.000 Well, I mean, it's admitted that the car had been cleared. 1.00

01:03:04.000 It's admitted that it had diplomatic plates.

01:03:06.000 It's admitted that it was Negroponte's own security detail, the former death squad commander now head of all U.S. intelligence agencies.

01:03:15.000 And it's just a fraud.

01:03:17.000 I mean, they knew what was going on.

01:03:19.000 There you go.

01:03:19.000 All right.

01:03:20.000 All right, Alex.

01:03:21.000 Wonderful.

01:03:22.000 Keep up the good work.

01:03:23.000 All right.

01:03:23.000 I appreciate your call.

01:03:24.000 I mean, look, they've got excuses for everything.

01:03:27.000 The point is, is that most people in government aren't bad.

01:03:30.000 But they're in compartmentalized areas where they aren't involved in the real evil that goes on.

01:03:36.000 So they'll go, well, government can't be bad, because I'm not bad. 0.95

01:03:40.000 Well, that's ridiculous. 0.94

01:03:41.000 That's like... 0.97

01:03:43.000 That's like saying, because you're not bad, nobody in the city of New York is bad.

01:03:46.000 You know, if you live in New York.

01:03:48.000 We'll be right back, PrisonPlanet.TV, stay with us.

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01:07:13.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're into hour number two.

01:07:26.000 Hmm.

01:07:27.000 Dosh! 1.00

01:07:28.000 Eight minutes, 35 seconds in.

01:07:32.000 And we're joined by Tom Flacco.

01:07:34.000 And I really respect Tom.

01:07:36.000 Tom went to many of the 9-11 hearings of the Congressional and the little blue ribbon whitewash committee that was set up.

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01:08:28.000 I'm going to write an article about it.

01:08:30.000 He's written some about it in one of his last books.

01:08:35.000 I'm into this stuff about government underage sex slaves.

01:08:40.000 And I'm talking to this guy on air and he's going, yes, yes, yes.

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01:08:45.000 I was telling him on the phone that they might kill me over this.

01:08:52.000 And then, folks, again, I only stick to what I can absolutely, totally prove. 0.96

01:08:58.000 And the New York Post reported, you know, top gay porn star, headlines, servicing members of Bohemian Grove. 0.96

01:09:04.000 That's in my new film. 0.99

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01:09:37.000 I mean, I've got all this, and I don't want to believe it.

01:09:41.000 And also, the globalists are masters of... and again, we don't even know who these globalists are, of all these witnesses and people.

01:09:50.000 We know that people like Tom Flacco are doing the best job they can to analyze this.

01:09:54.000 We know great Americans, like Senator John DeCamp, who was hired by the Senate basically to go disprove the Savings and Loans scam, where they went in and found this Larry King character, no relation to the Larry King on CNN, Black Larry King.

01:10:07.000 And that was all true with the kids, and that was really going on.

01:10:11.000 You know, the head treasurer for the Republican Party, and it led to what was described as Bohemian Grove, and a lot of scary stuff.

01:10:19.000 But then you've got these children who are witnesses, and uh... I've had John DeCamp on, and he's covered this, but he's been very careful about it as well.

01:10:31.000 But really, Tom Flacco, great to have you on.

01:10:33.000 TomFlacco.com.

01:10:35.000 Flacco's F-L-O-C-C-O dot com, or link through at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:10:40.000 But Tom, good to have you on with us, my friend.

01:10:42.000 Yes, Alex.

01:10:44.000 This was a tough story to write.

01:10:46.000 You know, I had this court testimony, as you can see.

01:10:50.000 If you read it carefully, it's kind of magazine-length.

01:10:52.000 Well, let me just stop you first.

01:10:54.000 I mean, Tom Flacco.

01:10:56.000 Why is Tom Flacco, who writes for a whole bunch of major publications, World Net Daily, you name it, over the years, what are you doing now getting off into this stuff?

01:11:08.000 Well, you know, it's something that I've had.

01:11:11.000 I've had the court testimony in my hands for two years.

01:11:14.000 It was sent to me, and I didn't know how to use it.

01:11:19.000 So you're a truth seeker, and just like with myself, this is where this stuff leads.

01:11:23.000 It leads to devil worship, it leads to children. 0.51

01:11:26.000 I didn't have enough material.

01:11:29.000 There was just not enough there that, yes, the court testimony is extremely damaging.

01:11:33.000 I read through it one time when I first got it.

01:11:37.000 I kind of skimmed it.

01:11:38.000 I said, boy, this is powerful stuff, and it does actually mention a sitting congressman's name.

01:11:44.000 You know, the boy who was involved had quite a bit of credibility.

01:11:49.000 You have to go and read the new edition, by the way.

01:11:53.000 There's a brand new edition, 2005, the Franklin cover-up by John DeCamp.

01:11:58.000 Yeah, and the incredible part is, after these books are written, his books written, later Barney Frank gets caught with underage prostitution ring out of his house.

01:12:10.000 Well yeah, that's... That was on the nightly news!

01:12:13.000 You see what I found to be really compelling is when...

01:12:19.000 When the current White House, I heard it on CNBC and MSNBC, particularly MSNBC and The Countdown Show and Chris Matthews, both dedicated a few nights covering the story.

01:12:31.000 The Countdown with Olbermann did it more than just a few nights, dealing with the Guckert Gannon issue of the fact that you had a person who had advertised himself as a male Well, he was really like a madam.

01:12:47.000 He also ran others.

01:12:51.000 Yeah, I didn't dig deeply into this, but in terms of the issue of Guckergannon on my forums, there are a lot of people posting quite a number of stories.

01:13:01.000 Yeah, this was even on MSNBC.

01:13:03.000 Yeah, this was on the cable, so the guy does exist.

01:13:06.000 There's no question about it.

01:13:09.000 of the president literally hugging him, kissing him.

01:13:11.000 I couldn't believe the photos.

01:13:13.000 I'm trying to find whether I can verify whether the photos are actually authentic.

01:13:17.000 Well, Bush has been seen kissing women and even kissing men now.

01:13:22.000 Well, kissing them on the cheek.

01:13:23.000 And people said, "Man, this is European." Well, you know, I'm not going to go that far, but what I'm saying is that this guy had access...

01:13:33.000 Let me stop you right there, Tom.

01:13:34.000 What do you mean you're not going to go this far?

01:13:35.000 There's been whole news articles, mainstream, about what's up with the kissing.

01:13:40.000 Well, I mean, to me... Because that's how European men do it. 1.00

01:13:43.000 They kiss somebody on the cheek, and Bush has been... I understand all that, and you know, as I say, he has the right to do what he wants to do.

01:13:50.000 Is it strange?

01:13:51.000 I don't do it myself, but you know, well, whatever.

01:13:54.000 But I found that the issue of having a person with this background And then allowed to use an alias, not his real name, and be a White House reporter, and this has to be... And you got it linked to Karl Rove!

01:14:07.000 This has to be Secret Service approved.

01:14:10.000 Well, the link there was, I found an article with CBS News, and one of their reporters said that there's no way that, you know, basically that you'd have to be naive to think that the President's top advisor, his senior advisor, Mr. Rove, would not have a say or not know who this guy was.

01:14:29.000 and know what his background is and whether that would cause at least an embarrassment, you know, if it is indeed true.

01:14:36.000 Well, you see him on the website.

01:14:38.000 He's there.

01:14:39.000 He's advertised.

01:14:40.000 His picture's there in full living color, if you will.

01:14:42.000 You know, so that was an issue.

01:14:45.000 And when I started looking into that, I said, well, you know, I started looking into the various articles and so forth, and I got out my old DeCamp book and started reading that, I got the new issue, which has even more startling revelations.

01:15:01.000 They sent me a copy and I called... Let me stop you there again.

01:15:04.000 Senator De Camp had his investigator killed.

01:15:07.000 Senator De Camp was threatened.

01:15:09.000 Senator De Camp...

01:15:10.000 You know, at a time, the head of the Republican Party in Nebraska, he went out to disprove this and found out it was true.

01:15:18.000 He's never been challenged, except one time a Virginia TV station said he was a liar.

01:15:23.000 He sued him and won over a million bucks.

01:15:26.000 This guy's winning in court if you challenge his book.

01:15:29.000 He would be the first lawyer I would attempt, if I were you or me or any other news reporter, I would ask.

01:15:36.000 Well, I read your article.

01:15:40.000 You're just going off court record and mainstream news.

01:15:44.000 And that's the point.

01:15:45.000 I don't want to, Tom, I don't want to in my brain admit this is going on, but there's no way to ignore it.

01:15:50.000 Well, you saw the title.

01:15:52.000 This was more than a title.

01:15:53.000 What I found is One of the alleged perpetrators, the guy that was said by all the reports that was taking the photographs, he admitted that he took the photographs, he took 20,000 to 30,000 photographs, and that Mr. de Campa, who I called John de Campa, and talked with him in two separate interviews, Albeit one of them was kind of short, but I did talk with him and got some updates and some information.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, we've had him on.

01:16:18.000 Hey, you know what?

01:16:19.000 We ought to try to, in the next hour, we ought to try to see if we can get him on.

01:16:24.000 You know, as I said, I read the transcript of your piece and there were a few interesting things which I was not aware of, you know, and I read the article and I found that, you know, there's no way that the top White House advisors wouldn't know this guy's background.

01:16:38.000 You know, why would they let somebody have access to the White House?

01:16:41.000 Also, the Neocon website he ran is linked to GOP funding.

01:16:46.000 Oh, I know.

01:16:46.000 It's all there.

01:16:49.000 And everybody's saying, well, what's the big deal, you know?

01:16:51.000 Well, it's their fake reporter.

01:16:54.000 Well, now the big deal is this.

01:16:55.000 Yes, Mrs. Gosch, who is the mother, Who met her son when we figured out the ages and so forth, and there's all kinds of... I referred to this and put some pictures up there, but I didn't take a stand myself.

01:17:09.000 Her son disappeared when he was 12.

01:17:10.000 Right.

01:17:10.000 Johnny Gosch disappeared.

01:17:12.000 He was serving papers on a Sunday in 1982, I believe it was, and he just disappeared.

01:17:18.000 And Paul Bonacci said he participated in the kidnapping by luring this child over next to a car where they quick snatched him and drugged him.

01:17:25.000 and he was gone.

01:17:26.000 And Mother Noreen Gosch said she saw him and met with him when he knocked on her daughter one night when he was about 27 years old.

01:17:36.000 Whether there had been other encounters between the two, she wouldn't say.

01:17:40.000 I'm not sure.

01:17:43.000 I asked her specifically, well, is Johnny Gosch, is your son, also this guy, Guckert Gannon?

01:17:48.000 And she said she's not sure she's gone.

01:17:50.000 She doesn't have enough evidence.

01:17:52.000 It's a spitting image!

01:17:53.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that, you know.

01:17:55.000 And then I found out that the guy went to the same college that I went to.

01:18:00.000 And I know, you know, although I have... See, I have no problem.

01:18:05.000 God's people are God's people.

01:18:07.000 And if a person has that kind of a sway, they're homosexual, do I approve of it? 1.00

01:18:12.000 I don't approve of it myself.

01:18:14.000 I don't criticize it.

01:18:15.000 I don't say, you know, that it's something that they can't do.

01:18:19.000 I would like to come out and say, oh yeah, I'm going to be holier than thou.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, but that's all a side issue.

01:18:25.000 I don't have a right.

01:18:26.000 I don't think I have a right to.

01:18:27.000 What I have a problem with It's the children issue.

01:18:30.000 If people are working with children and abusing children... They need to be executed. 1.00

01:18:34.000 That's a terrible thing. 1.00

01:18:36.000 They need to go to prison for the rest of their lives.

01:18:38.000 Stay there.

01:18:39.000 We've got a break.

01:18:40.000 We're talking to Tom Placco.

01:18:42.000 A detailed, 12-page report on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:18:49.000 This is sick stuff, but somebody's got to expose it.

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01:22:48.000 All right, during the break, I got Senator DeCamp's number.

01:23:00.000 I have it on my computer.

01:23:03.000 He just had major surgery a week ago.

01:23:03.000 I called him.

01:23:06.000 But he is coming on the broadcast.

01:23:09.000 He's coming on in the next segment with Tom Flacco.

01:23:13.000 And so this should be very interesting. 0.66

01:23:14.000 Tom, look, we cannot ignore the admitted male prostitutes, the admitted underage, we're talking 16 years old, Barney Frank. 0.62

01:23:23.000 I mean, how could Barney Frank, the congressman, how could he have Underage male prostitutes, that's pedophilia folks, in his, in his penthouse, with a coal boy ring being run out of it, and this was all over the national news years ago, and he never went to jail! 0.92

01:23:40.000 You see, this shows the double standard! 0.91

01:23:43.000 And he needs to be in prison!

01:23:44.000 Um, and this is scary stuff, but, uh, Tom?

01:23:47.000 He was running it also out of Chevy Chase Elementary School, one of the guys in his penthouse.

01:23:52.000 That was unbelievable stuff.

01:23:53.000 I mean, I knew about this a couple years ago, too.

01:23:56.000 I looked into it and I didn't report it.

01:23:58.000 What makes it an issue now is that they are making a tremendous story out of Michael Jackson and the pedophilia.

01:24:05.000 They're basically dragging 70 and 80 year old priests out of retirement and prosecuting them and throwing them into prison.

01:24:13.000 And you have all these children who are testifying and coming forward.

01:24:17.000 You know, and you've got even adult people, photographers, investigative notes, videos, there's a lot of material out there.

01:24:25.000 And John told me that the law enforcement officials are still looking for the pictures.

01:24:31.000 Why would they be looking for pictures and evidence if this case is supposed to be closed?

01:24:31.000 Well, that's the tip-off.

01:24:37.000 Well, here on the network, I heard a prominent former New York detective on Jack Blood Show Friday talking about all this stuff.

01:24:44.000 And how every time, I mean, he would go to apartments with 10 children in it, and he'd, it would always lead back to government.

01:24:52.000 And he'd be told, you're off the case.

01:24:54.000 He was on a commission for the governor after he, I mean, this is huge!

01:24:59.000 Well, unless some, you know, all of this stuff is going to, it'll be out there for a few days, and then it dies down.

01:25:04.000 And then it goes away, because the people who have control.

01:25:08.000 How can we expect United States Senators to force a federal prosecutor to indict some of their own members?

01:25:15.000 Well, for the people that just joined us, it's not debatable.

01:25:20.000 Top male porn stars serving Bohemian Grove members.

01:25:24.000 New York Post.

01:25:25.000 We're talking mainstream news, not debatable.

01:25:30.000 Dozens and dozens and dozens of reports.

01:25:32.000 I've got stuff going back to the 80's, long before DeCamp wrote his book.

01:25:36.000 You know, Spy Magazine, Parade Magazine.

01:25:40.000 So this stuff is... I mean, this is definitely... I mean, just the homosexuality is enough because they claim they're Christian conservatives, but they're involved in this. 0.84

01:25:50.000 It's very tragic, and what got me started when I talked to John, I thought to myself, here's the story.

01:25:58.000 John, the camp told me that they arrested the photographer a couple days after the suicide of Mr. Thompson.

01:26:07.000 And that is really kind of strange.

01:26:09.000 Where was the media on that?

01:26:10.000 Why wasn't that reported?

01:26:12.000 Here you had a guy who in federal court testimony, and I quoted it over and over again, The testimony is absolutely incredible, and I think that's what makes a story like this fly.

01:26:21.000 Because this was allowed in a court of law, but the other issue is that Judge Erbom, why didn't he say, hey, you're kidding me!

01:26:29.000 Let's subpoena the pictures.

01:26:31.000 Can you identify any of these pictures?

01:26:33.000 Are there congressmen you can name?

01:26:33.000 Are there senators?

01:26:35.000 I would like to hear their names.

01:26:37.000 Can you identify them by the pictures that we show you?

01:26:40.000 If you don't know their exact names, can you recognize the faces?

01:26:43.000 None of this was done.

01:26:44.000 There were some pictures shown.

01:26:46.000 Well, it's like Abu Ghraib.

01:26:47.000 that you know that he was on planes he was with mr. King he was you know that kind of thing but there was but but there were many many pictures and he was involved in it there are other people he knows who the other people were that were also taking pictures well it's like Abu Ghraib the government decides to let CBS News run about 15 pictures but I watched the senators walk out and They were given an afternoon to look at over 2,000 photos and over 100 videos.

01:27:14.000 But then they came out and said it's indescribable.

01:27:16.000 We now have the Army report.

01:27:18.000 We know what that is.

01:27:20.000 Objects dripping with battery acid.

01:27:21.000 That's all I'm going to say.

01:27:22.000 I had to leave so much out of this story.

01:27:25.000 Because, frankly, Alex, it was gross. 0.53

01:27:27.000 It was disgusting.

01:27:29.000 And it was just stuff that I didn't want to have printed.

01:27:32.000 Well, the point is, this is what the elite's into.

01:27:35.000 And what we've got to watch out here is we've got to ask ourselves about Gannon.

01:27:40.000 He's in the rip pocket all this time.

01:27:43.000 Now he suddenly appears.

01:27:45.000 And, I don't know, we've just got to watch Gannon closely.

01:27:48.000 I mean, why is Gannon still alive?

01:27:52.000 Well, yeah, the other issue with this is I don't take a position on it one way or another because I've got to go with Mrs. Goss.

01:27:59.000 Has she met this guy?

01:28:01.000 I would like to see the two of them meet and have her ask.

01:28:04.000 But I'm talking about the news articles where Gannon says, reportedly, in major publications, that he's friends with Bush.

01:28:11.000 And he's coming out saying this.

01:28:13.000 I mean, how is he still alive?

01:28:16.000 Boy, I'll tell you what, it's a thorny issue and you don't know where to go with it.

01:28:21.000 We haven't given folks a lot of details.

01:28:23.000 We will when we get back with Tom Flacco and Senator John DeCamp on the other side of this quick break.

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01:35:15.000 Alright, we're now joined again, as I said, by Tom Flacco, who's written a detailed 12-page article about the disgusting underbelly of the New World Order, and Senator John DeCamp, a man of unbelievable courage, And, uh, let's go ahead and bring Senator DeCamp up first, as Tom has been on with us the last 20 minutes.

01:35:33.000 Uh, Senator, good to have you on with us.

01:35:35.000 Howdy, howdy, and how are you?

01:35:37.000 Good, sir.

01:35:37.000 Just in a quick thumbnail, tell us who you are, how you got involved in this investigation, uh, please.

01:35:43.000 Okay, my name is John DeCamp.

01:35:45.000 I'm a lawyer in a little town called Claytonia, Nebraska.

01:35:49.000 Used to be Lincoln and big cities, but I moved here kind of for family safety about a dozen years ago after I wrote a particular book called The Franklin Cover-Up.

01:35:58.000 I had been a senator for 16 years.

01:36:00.000 In fact, believe it or not, I'm the first, last, only one you'll get to meet in your life in one election without ever setting foot in the United States of America.

01:36:07.000 I ran the entire campaign from Vietnam.

01:36:09.000 I was a combat infantry captain over there and one crazy bet, whatever, led to another and I filed and, well, it's a long story.

01:36:16.000 But I ended up winning and served then for 16 years after I got out of the legislature.

01:36:21.000 And yes, I was extremely controversial.

01:36:23.000 In fact, the World Herald, the major newspaper of the state, labeled me Most powerful and effective and blah blah blah in the history of the state and on and on.

01:36:32.000 And they hate me just as much today now as they loved me then.

01:36:35.000 That's because I kind of put some of their folk in prison on this whole issue we're talking about.

01:36:40.000 But anyway, so about a dozen, God it's 15 years ago now, I was asked to represent some kids in some breaking story of old kids being molested and hauled to the White House and other places.

01:36:56.000 I thought it was nonsense and I said publicly when I was confronted on the issue that if I even believed one of these crazy things I'd be the first one to stand up and do something about it or say something about it.

01:37:11.000 One of the kids contacted me from prison, a kid named Paul Bonacci, where he'd been locked up.

01:37:15.000 Now, to be clear, the Republican Party, which you'd been the head of in the state, actually had you go out quoting, because you were saying you didn't believe it, so they go, okay, yeah, yeah, he's with us, go investigate it for us, Senator.

01:37:25.000 So you did, and tell folks what happened to one of your investigators.

01:37:29.000 Well, I wasn't a senator at the time, but the Senate committee was a string of, I listed, I don't know how many I listed in the book, He had just talked to you, though.

01:37:40.000 He said, I've got them.

01:37:41.000 who were involved one after another, the closer they get to something, the quicker they end up dead.

01:37:45.000 And in this case, the investigator hired by the Senate committee was uncovering one thing after another, and kids were talking.

01:37:53.000 He had just talked to you, though.

01:37:55.000 He said, I've got them.

01:37:56.000 From his little airplane to come home from Chicago, and again, it was an 8-year-old kid, and it blew up in the air, and blah, blah, blah.

01:38:05.000 The rest is history.

01:38:06.000 Anyway, you're still there?

01:38:08.000 Yes, sir.

01:38:10.000 So, as I say, I got more than deeply involved.

01:38:15.000 I wish, to be honest, and this sounds terrible for anybody to say, but I wish I'd never heard of Franklin.

01:38:20.000 I wish I'd never heard of any of the people in it.

01:38:22.000 I wish that I still was as naive and believed as innocently as I did before this all happened and I ended up getting deeper and deeper involved.

01:38:31.000 I wish none of it were true.

01:38:32.000 Unfortunately, the opposite is true, and it is true.

01:38:36.000 And that's why I ended up writing the book.

01:38:37.000 My best friend, my confidant, my... Everybody has a godfather in life, right?

01:38:43.000 Well, mine was a guy named Bill Colby.

01:38:44.000 Will you meet Colby?

01:38:46.000 And you may remember Bill as the head of the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:38:50.000 He also ended up dead out of this.

01:38:52.000 And I had doubts about saying this publicly ever before today, but... You know, they found him floating in the Chesapeake Bay, and I...

01:39:01.000 No official reason for his death, but I guarantee on my life it wasn't accidental and was involved.

01:39:10.000 But anyway, so he was the one that gave me the advice to protect myself and my family.

01:39:13.000 The best thing I could do, quote him, was, hey, tell the story and there's no benefit from doing yen.

01:39:20.000 That's what Jennifer Flowers said when she got on Hardball. 1.00

01:39:22.000 She said, Bill Clinton's killed over a hundred people.

01:39:25.000 And he said, why are you saying this?

01:39:26.000 And she goes, because I've been told by writing this book and telling the truth, I'm protected.

01:39:30.000 It's when you have the knowledge and don't share it that you get killed.

01:39:33.000 The old Colby told me, he said, I wrote the book.

01:39:35.000 And the rest is kind of history.

01:39:36.000 As you know, one thing after another that at the time I wrote it seemed unbelievable has come out and been pretty well verified over and over.

01:39:44.000 I think I was the first one, for example, Document in some detail some place called the Bohemian Grove and what happens there and specifics and dates and places and personnel and that's just one example.

01:39:55.000 And I want you to tell in the book no one had ever gotten footage out.

01:40:00.000 You had just gotten this from witnesses.

01:40:02.000 You know I snuck in and got the footage.

01:40:03.000 That's my understanding.

01:40:06.000 So anyway that's how I got involved and now I see things have blossomed up again and I hope it all go away and I I don't know which way to turn or react as a result of the latest development.

01:40:16.000 Yes, I was the one that first, in my book, and then through my work, uncovered, located the missing Johnny Gosch and that whole thing there, and his mother has become one of my closest friends.

01:40:28.000 Well, let's shift gears.

01:40:30.000 Let's shift gears now into 2005.

01:40:33.000 There's this gentleman named Gannon, fake reporter, funded by neocons, turns out he's a coal Poor. 0.92

01:40:44.000 That's admitted.

01:40:46.000 And just incredible access to the White House, more than most of the reporters.

01:40:50.000 And in comes Tom Flacco, who's a great investigative reporter.

01:40:53.000 Tom, come on in here.

01:40:54.000 I mean, where should we start telling the next chapter in this nightmare?

01:40:58.000 Well, I think one of the key issues, as I said earlier, is that you've got John DeCampo.

01:41:05.000 I'm just honored to be with him.

01:41:07.000 I respect everything he's done.

01:41:08.000 I've read his book just about cover to cover, and it's a very disturbing story.

01:41:12.000 I've been working on this for four to six weeks.

01:41:15.000 I talked to John a couple of times about a week, week and a half ago, and I talked to Mrs. Gosch.

01:41:20.000 So I did talk to the people who I would consider to be the most informed.

01:41:26.000 You know, of anyone on this case, because they've been, they've literally had to live it.

01:41:30.000 So I feel that the issue of the Guckert-Gannon situation, I talked to Mrs. Gosch, and she said she still has to see more evidence.

01:41:37.000 I would ask my question to her, or to John, would be, is there any possibility of, she tried to contact this man, because the ages do match up, according to the, they like to say that Gannon says he's older, but on his website he advertised that he was the exact same age in 2000 as as Johnny gosh would have been you know which was also all of you know his real name the name he's using now the alias he was using and Johnny gosh it's the same initials well I will say this to give

01:42:07.000 John doesn't know this I'm sure but I did find some other websites and some some people checked that he went to Fairview High School around the Pennsylvania Delaware border and right near there is a state university called Westchester State University and Guckert James Guckert did graduate They said that there was a Guckert who graduated from Westchester University.

01:42:29.000 Interestingly enough, I have a backup.

01:42:31.000 Let's just stop right here.

01:42:33.000 How did the Gannon thing, because I hear different reports, I see different reports, how did it first surface, and then where did it first surface that he looks like Johnny Gush?

01:42:43.000 Well, that came on all kinds of, on my forums.

01:42:47.000 There were many, many posts.

01:42:48.000 People started posting all of a sudden.

01:42:50.000 The internet just came alive.

01:42:52.000 With stories, with pictures, photos, people started digging.

01:42:55.000 You know how when you've got thousands of people just digging up stuff and they're finding out where a person went to high school?

01:43:01.000 But that's where we've got to be careful because the globalists love to take real news, real stories, try to insert something that isn't true, and then later bring that out and discredit As I say, I've not taken a position on either of them.

01:43:16.000 I don't know whether he is.

01:43:17.000 All I do is there are striking similarities.

01:43:19.000 Let's ask Senator DeCamp.

01:43:20.000 Senator DeCamp, what do you think of all this?

01:43:24.000 I think I'm learning as we go.

01:43:25.000 I have had an awful lot of people from across the United States call me, give me opinions and so on and so forth.

01:43:32.000 Here's what I will tell you.

01:43:33.000 When I finished writing my book, it came out First thing that happened was a group of lawyers, very powerful lawyers, got together because I named names.

01:43:42.000 I was very specific.

01:43:43.000 If you remember my book, I don't talk in generalities.

01:43:46.000 You don't mention words.

01:43:47.000 Anyway, and they said, we will sue him for libel and slander and he will be the most destroyed lawyer in this country and on and on and on.

01:43:56.000 I got up and answered the same press conference.

01:43:58.000 Hey, if anybody had said any of these things to me, I would want, I would sue them.

01:44:04.000 So unless Unless I can prove the one thing I have to prove, which is an absolute defense no matter what, and that is truth.

01:44:15.000 Truth is an absolute defense and libel.

01:44:17.000 And you've never lost a case, you've proven it in court, and it gets worse when a TV station said you were a liar, you sued them and won.

01:44:27.000 Okay, then that's when I sued them because they wanted to say I was a liar.

01:44:32.000 I was going to say, hey, I'll call your bluff.

01:44:34.000 See, that's what scares me, is that Bob Kerrey, who ran for president, you may or may remember, had been, along with Wadman, police chief of Omaha, former police chief, deeply involved in this thing, had been in a town called Wilmington, North Carolina, where one of them became police chief, and the other was campaigning.

01:44:50.000 Anyway, they used the forum there, the TV station, which was Great Atlantic Telecast Company or something, a long time ago, so I can barely remember, but anyway, and they said certain things, and I said, hey man, I'm suing you, and I sued him, and

01:45:03.000 They did their own investigation and surprisingly enough within a reasonable amount of time part of the deal was they had to apologize two times in a row on their evening news and they paid me damages which of course I'm not allowed to quote disclose in a private settlement so yeah there was one... That's over I mean I know you can't but it was over a mil a little bird told me?

01:45:24.000 No I won a million dollars on behalf of one of the children we're still trying to collect that That's in my story.

01:45:31.000 Now, let me stop you right there. 0.96

01:45:32.000 You're talking about Senator Kerry who was involved in Operation Phoenix.

01:45:39.000 Yeah.

01:45:40.000 Again, a lot of this trails back to Vietnam.

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:46.000 This is kind of sensitive and painful for me to talk about because I was up to my eyebrows in Operation Phoenix.

01:45:53.000 I was a captain over there specially assigned to Colby for development of the Phoenix program and I used to try to defend it but I'll be honest with you in all good conscience I can't say anything other than it was an assassination program today even if I want to tell myself otherwise.

01:46:09.000 But anyway that's neither here nor there.

01:46:11.000 The question was what do I believe today?

01:46:14.000 Based on the information I have seen, I've received, calls made, information from talking to people like Noreen.

01:46:22.000 Kid Gunderson just left here yesterday.

01:46:24.000 He came back right away and spent about two weeks with me.

01:46:27.000 Even though week I was in the hospital here, but anyway, uh, I think there's a real serious question as to whether this This particular individual may indeed be Johnny gosh, I do remember a conversation one time Between Paul Bonassi.

01:46:45.000 Bonassi was one of the central characters You know being taken to the White House and so on and so forth back in my original book and Paul once was Talking to Johnny's mother, as I recall, and he told, and Johnny had made, oh my gosh, had made contact with Paul, believe it or not, and some of these other kids that were involved.

01:47:05.000 Anyway, and he explained why he could never come out.

01:47:07.000 You know, he'd been involved in such things, snuff films and everything else, that once you're in that, you can't come out.

01:47:13.000 And he explained to him, hey, he shaved his head, he said he's changed his face a little.

01:47:18.000 If he were standing next to you right now, Noreen, you wouldn't recognize him, so.

01:47:22.000 My reasons for saying what I say next are not because of his look or what I've seen in the papers.

01:47:28.000 What I'm going to say next is I believe there's between an 80 and a 90 percent probability that it's correct, that that is, but nothing I say is based upon the looks or the appearance.

01:47:39.000 Now I've read reports that Mrs. Gosch has talked to him.

01:47:42.000 I mean, number one, is that true?

01:47:44.000 Number two, what does he say?

01:47:47.000 If Mrs. Gosch has talked to him, Has talked to who?

01:47:53.000 Talked to Mr. Gannon.

01:47:55.000 If Mrs. Gosch has talked to Mr. Gannon, then she has not confirmed that with me yet, and I think if she had, she would have confirmed that.

01:48:04.000 Okay, because those reports are out there.

01:48:07.000 Alright, so we can discount that.

01:48:08.000 I'm not saying she hasn't, I'm saying I think she'd tell me absolutely.

01:48:14.000 Has anybody been able to talk to Gannon?

01:48:17.000 I certainly I certainly do not know.

01:48:20.000 John, has he talked to her son since the 1997 visit when he was approximately 27 years old?

01:48:26.000 Has there been any other contact?

01:48:29.000 I think you should ask her that question.

01:48:31.000 Okay.

01:48:33.000 Well, let me get this out here right now.

01:48:35.000 I feel I have a certain... Gannon supposedly talked to the Moscow Gazette, which is a pretty respectable paper.

01:48:41.000 I went and looked at some of their back issues, and they're saying he's coming out with a tell-all book.

01:48:45.000 Have you guys seen that other places?

01:48:47.000 I have heard that before.

01:48:49.000 I heard this was going to happen a week ago, yes.

01:48:51.000 And it apparently came out on the front page of something called the Moscow Gazette here within the last couple days.

01:48:56.000 Yes, I had been advised that was going to happen, and I was surprised.

01:49:03.000 I think that tends to verify some things.

01:49:05.000 Yeah, and again, in that report and others, he's not saying that he's this Johnny Gosh.

01:49:10.000 What he is saying is that he was good buddies with the President and others, and that right there would bring down this administration.

01:49:19.000 Yeah, the issue I think, Alex, the issue here is not so much because it's a tremendous embarrassment for a mother.

01:49:26.000 I can just think if it was my child that was involved in this kind of a thing and all this had happened over a period of time.

01:49:33.000 How do you explain this?

01:49:34.000 And the issue is why, with his background, was he allowed to have a two year pass?

01:49:39.000 And how does that relate to what went on in the past?

01:49:43.000 Yeah, we'll get those answers from Senator DeCamp and yourself.

01:49:46.000 We'll bounce it around when we get back.

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01:52:48.000 I want to keep Tom Flocko and Senator DeCamp into the next hour.

01:53:04.000 I really appreciate both these great Americans joining us.

01:53:08.000 Senator DeCamp started out trying to disprove something and found out it was true.

01:53:13.000 And for 15 years his book has stood there and stood the test of time and has been really best selling by all the gauges that are out there.

01:53:21.000 And unfortunately, I went and researched things that were in his book.

01:53:25.000 I personally went places and videotaped the satanic ritual at Bohemian Grove where they have the effigy of a child and they burn it.

01:53:34.000 And then I found a photo they released in 1909 of Bohemian Grove members standing around a small black child tied down to a board.

01:53:40.000 Now that was released to the University of Berkeley, California, which is kind of like your unofficial mouthpiece.

01:53:50.000 I wish this wasn't true.

01:53:52.000 And regardless of these new developments, we know where there's smoke, there's fire.

01:53:56.000 There's a lot of smoke here.

01:53:58.000 We're trying to find out just how big the fire is and trying to get through the smoke and the fog of war to get the specifics and the details.

01:54:05.000 We've got to be careful.

01:54:06.000 But my question to Tom Flacco, but first Senator DeCant, before we start the next hour and get into the details of this story, And of course we'll plug the book as well and tell you about Tom Flacco's side.

01:54:16.000 But before I do that, we know this stuff's going on.

01:54:20.000 You know, a lot of it's out in the open, they've been caught doing it.

01:54:23.000 You know, Barney Frank with the underage people in his apartment, you know, is a call boy ring, and that's ABC News.

01:54:32.000 What is wrong with the people running our country?

01:54:34.000 I mean, how is this going on?

01:54:38.000 Why are they into this, Senator?

01:54:41.000 Please listen, and please don't interrupt.

01:54:43.000 I'm going to tell you something now.

01:54:46.000 While you were having your commercials, I listened to a couple voice messages I had that I've been waiting for.

01:54:51.000 What I told you before, I now am a little bit repudiate.

01:54:55.000 I told you that I thought it was 80 to 90 percent that that was Johnny Gosch, didn't I?

01:55:01.000 Yes.

01:55:02.000 I now change that.

01:55:04.000 I believe it's, I'm going to move it up to 97 and a half percent, okay?

01:55:08.000 I'm going to give you some additional information.

01:55:10.000 You make your own conclusions and judgments.

01:55:13.000 But everything I'm telling you can be verified.

01:55:16.000 And I don't want to be involved in this.

01:55:19.000 I'm just giving you information you can follow up.

01:55:22.000 The moment, literally, after this cannon was exposed, so to speak, you know that about four other major events happened.

01:55:31.000 One of those was a chap named Hunter Thompson.

01:55:34.000 Remember?

01:55:36.000 Mr. Hunter Thompson was a key character in my book and also the director of enough films and participant in things at Bohemian Grove.

01:55:46.000 You notice he blew his brains out two days after this character after, uh, what's his name, was arrested, right?

01:55:54.000 Yes.

01:55:55.000 Within about a day after that, or about the same time, another central, central character, again from my book, but also in the whole Franklin thing, and this whole thing, who actually went to prison, For some time, being Larry King, he was the central character, remember?

01:56:08.000 His private photographer.

01:56:10.000 He got busted.

01:56:11.000 He'd been out on the streets, living in Nebraska. 0.79

01:56:13.000 Fine guy, living upstanding.

01:56:15.000 He got busted and was hauled off to jail in a hurry, and the house, everything he had was seized and so on and so forth.

01:56:22.000 For what?

01:56:23.000 What?

01:56:23.000 For what?

01:56:24.000 What did they say?

01:56:25.000 Supposedly for not registering as a sex offender in a particular county he had been in or something, but he had registered to the best of my knowledge.

01:56:34.000 I do know this.

01:56:35.000 Ted Gunderson then flew back here, and you know who Ted is, and he did put up, I was pulled off an emergency wagon a hundred miles off to a hospital in an ambulance, I got paralyzed and couldn't move anyway, but I'm out of the hospital now, but during that time then, Rusty got bailed out by Ted, and that hearing is coming up I think tomorrow on something other than, anyway, another thing, there were at least two notable figures in Washington,

01:57:05.000 And I'd rather somebody else give you their names, because I don't make a mistake, Noreen can give you.

01:57:10.000 People who had dealt with her, contacted her, claimed they were with the CIA back during the height of the Johnny Gosch thing, they suddenly get busted and arrested for both pedophile stuff and so on.

01:57:23.000 I think this may extend deeper and broader and whatever than somewhat.

01:57:29.000 And as I say, I have moved my opinion up based upon some of the other information I just got in the phone call that was left.

01:57:38.000 We'll be right back.

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01:57:54.000 You want answers?

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01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, in hour number three on this unbelievable Monday edition, We're talking to Tom Flacco.

01:58:21.000 Investigative journalist, award-winning, written a huge 12-page report called Bless the Beast and the Children.

01:58:29.000 And a photographer for White House, sex child ring, arrested after Thompson's suicide.

01:58:36.000 And it just goes into the bowels of all this evil. 0.88

01:58:40.000 We're talking to Senator John DeCamp.

01:58:42.000 The reports have been out there that this Gannon character may be this Johnny Gosh who disappeared when he was 12 years old back in the early 1980s. 0.86

01:58:52.000 What we do know is that Gannon was a male prostitute, that Gannon ran a porn website, was basically like a madam. 0.67

01:58:58.000 We do know that he was given specific, special access to the White House. 0.99

01:59:02.000 We do know that he was good buddies with the President.

01:59:06.000 I watched the body language on the news piece that showed Gannon asking him questions at a press conference.

01:59:09.000 It was very interesting.

01:59:11.000 I mean, it's the way I'd look at a girlfriend if she was asking me questions at a press conference.

01:59:16.000 I mean, folks, you know, a picture tells a million words.

01:59:19.000 Well, this video tells a lot more than that. 0.98

01:59:21.000 We know New York Post reporting that they bus in male prostitutes, you know, top gay porn stars, to quote, service them at the Bohemian Grove. 0.94

01:59:31.000 We know, again, I have articles from the 80s from Spy Magazine and major publications about, you know, the homosexuality going on at the Grove, the male prostitutes. 0.98

01:59:41.000 This is all in my film, Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, made four years ago.

01:59:45.000 So, we're about to break here, but I wanted to bring up Tom Flacco.

01:59:48.000 Tom, just that amazing revelation that Senator DeCant gave us, upping it from 80%, 90%, to 97%, that Well, yeah, as I say, I read the book, and I would say I read about 85-90% of the book.

02:00:03.000 I mean, his book stands the testament of time.

02:00:06.000 Your comments?

02:00:07.000 Well, yeah, as I say, I read the book, and I would say I read about 85 to 90% of the book.

02:00:15.000 It's just incredible, and I put a link up with the price, $12.95, $4 for shipping.

02:00:21.000 I sent an email to John's office.

02:00:23.000 As per the back of the book, I put the email in the story.

02:00:29.000 Comments on what he's been saying.

02:00:30.000 Comments to him.

02:00:32.000 As far as my interest in the thing, you're breaking some new ground.

02:00:37.000 As you know, I led, if you've read the story, I don't know if you've read it yet.

02:00:41.000 I led in the first paragraph of the story.

02:00:44.000 To me, the story was that right at the time of the suicide, a couple days later, The photographer linked in court testimony, federal district court testimony, to Larry King and the case was picked up for allegedly, you know, a variety of things.

02:00:58.000 Could you expand a little more about what happened to Rusty Nelson?

02:01:02.000 You said his house was, when he was busted, everything in his house was seized.

02:01:06.000 You're saying that that's what happened?

02:01:07.000 That's what happened.

02:01:08.000 And the only reason I know is because I was personally involved in it.

02:01:12.000 Okay, you were there.

02:01:13.000 Well, I started getting these calls from Thought it seemed like from everybody.

02:01:20.000 Rusty's been picked up.

02:01:21.000 Rusty's in jail.

02:01:22.000 Then I got personal calls from Rusty, you know, collect out of the jail.

02:01:27.000 And he was in the Madison County Jail in Northeast Nebraska.

02:01:31.000 And I found out he'd been seized because supposedly he wasn't officially registered in Lincoln, which is a hundred and some miles away.

02:01:38.000 And he had been in Lincoln at some time or other.

02:01:39.000 Well, I'm sure he was registered, but I thought, I mean, big deal.

02:01:43.000 A technicality.

02:01:44.000 Yeah.

02:01:44.000 Anyway, but then they hauled him down and had him locked up in tight security, super tight.

02:01:50.000 I was getting, as I say, five to ten calls a day from people wanting me to see if I couldn't do something.

02:01:55.000 I felt I might have to end up as a witness in the case, and I was having my own problems at the time.

02:02:00.000 So I told Ted, and Ted came back here and bailed him out, and they spent the last week together, staying together, and I think learning a lot.

02:02:15.000 Ted stayed with him every minute of every hour of every day they were here together and he knows.

02:02:23.000 Basically debriefing him.

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 Alright, we'll be back and kind of boil this down, explain this to people and then take calls.

02:02:31.000 From his bed, just had major surgery, Senator DeCamp, and we're also joined by Tom Flacco.

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02:05:56.000 Alright, your calls are coming up in a few minutes.

02:05:58.000 We're now 8 minutes, 15 seconds into this third hour, second segment.

02:06:03.000 We're talking to Senator John DeCamp who wrote a book from his investigation with the state of this pedophile ring.

02:06:12.000 People went to jail over it and his book alleged all these big top figures involved and they never sued him, they never challenged him.

02:06:19.000 He had all these eyewitnesses, a lot of people were murdered who were involved in the investigation including the state's chief investigator that was reporting to DeCamp.

02:06:27.000 His plane blew up.

02:06:30.000 It just goes on and on.

02:06:32.000 And then it ties in with this 12-year-old boy that came up missing in the early 80s, Johnny Gosch, who's a very close look and age now, to Mr. Gannon, who we know is now reportedly saying that he was in relations with Bush and others.

02:06:49.000 And we know he was a coal boy, a coal madam really, and ran a porno site as well. 0.88

02:06:56.000 And we know the neocons were funding his so-called news website, and he had just unbelievable access to the corridors of the White House more than the other reporters.

02:07:06.000 So we have all this swirling around.

02:07:09.000 And then in comes Hunter S. Thompson.

02:07:11.000 Now, you know, I hear from listeners, oh, Hunter S. Thompson had seen your videos.

02:07:15.000 Oh, he was writing about 9-11.

02:07:17.000 I talked to one of his friends.

02:07:18.000 He says, yeah, he was getting ready to do a big story on it, thought they were going to kill him.

02:07:22.000 And I said, well, does it This was the Glove and Mail reporter.

02:07:27.000 When he talked to him days before he died, was he talking about these white slavery rings? 0.86

02:07:31.000 You know, the homosexuality, the pedophilia, all this. 0.99

02:07:34.000 He's like, yes, he was going to be working on that. 0.60

02:07:37.000 He was going to be reporting on that.

02:07:40.000 And then of course, Mr. DeCamp, your book, Uh, gets into eyewitnesses saying that it was somebody named Hunter Thompson.

02:07:46.000 Who knows, could have been somebody using that as an alias.

02:07:49.000 Uh, we don't know, or, or, I mean, can you fill me in on this?

02:07:51.000 Can you explain this?

02:07:52.000 This sounds like a CIA novel or something.

02:07:56.000 I mean, it's just so bizarre.

02:07:58.000 I know.

02:07:58.000 I know that.

02:08:00.000 I believe we're talking... I don't believe.

02:08:02.000 I know we're talking about the identical Hunter F. Thompson, as mentioned in my book, and, and ceremonies, and directing, uh, Enough films and being involved with the kids.

02:08:13.000 There's no question in my mind about that.

02:08:15.000 But what I guess I'm trying to make, the point I'm trying to make is there's about five events that seem to all just happen and they seem to be dominoing here at a rapid pace.

02:08:26.000 For example, I had not printed my book, copy of it, for about, God, six, nine years.

02:08:33.000 And then I was getting so many requests, I thought, oh, what the hell, and so I reprinted the book and it came out in the first, oh, first of February or so of 2005.

02:08:43.000 Which is about a month and a half ago, right?

02:08:45.000 Right as the scandal was breaking.

02:08:49.000 Well, this was just before, when it first came out.

02:08:51.000 It was before that.

02:08:53.000 And it updated certain things.

02:08:55.000 For example, I will read you one paragraph of the update, because I wanted to bring people up to date.

02:09:00.000 And one of the central, central characters, you remember, of the original book was a kid named Troy Boner.

02:09:07.000 Troy Boner was the government's chief witness to help lock up all the other kids.

02:09:12.000 Later he recanted, changed, and under oath testified that the government had forced him to.

02:09:17.000 Anyway, so for example, I've got one of my updates in here.

02:09:20.000 I'm going to read you one paragraph just to give you a flavor.

02:09:23.000 In late 2003, Troy Boner walked into a hospital in New Mexico screaming, quote, they're after me, they're after me because of this book.

02:09:32.000 The book Troy was waving was this book, The Franklin Cover-Up.

02:09:35.000 Boner was mildly sedated and calmed down and put in a private room for observation.

02:09:41.000 When nurses came to check on him early next morning, Boner was sitting in a chair bleeding from the mouth and quite dead.

02:09:47.000 Former FBI Los Angeles Bureau Chief Ted Gunderson tried to get autopsy and other information and details that were promised him on Boner's death, but Gunderson and apparently every other entity were totally shut out of all information.

02:10:01.000 No news stories on Boner's death were published in the news, Despite Boner's previous front page fame and notoriety in the Franklin case.

02:10:09.000 Okay, so, my book came out, uh, then you... Anyway, then you have the Gannon thing, and then Hunter Thompson two days later, and two days after that, whatever, the rest of it gets picked up, and then Noreen can give, Noreen Gosch can give you information about these other arrests of these characters involved, uh, back then who were pretending, or I assume they were pretending, unless they really were CIA, But I think you ought to talk to her direct about that.

02:10:34.000 They should get busted for pedophilia involved in that. 0.55

02:10:37.000 And as I say, I don't know what's going on.

02:10:40.000 I do know based upon people I have great confidence in.

02:10:43.000 And I give as an example, Ted Gunderson.

02:10:45.000 I don't know if you remember, Ted Gunderson was originally hired.

02:10:49.000 He was originally hired to prove I was full of beans.

02:10:53.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:10:54.000 Ted Gunderson was a former graduate of the University of Nebraska, football star and all that nonsense.

02:11:00.000 And believe me, football in Nebraska is more sacred than the church.

02:11:04.000 But anyway... And that's how Ted Gunderson, you know, went from being the former head FBI guy in L.A., he suddenly, through your case, found out about the New World Order, and then all the things he's done since then.

02:11:15.000 I repeat, he was hired to come back and prove that Senator John DeCamp was full of BS and was discrediting people.

02:11:23.000 He came on to me pretty strong and tough.

02:11:26.000 I meant no words.

02:11:27.000 I let him share everything I had and he came out of, you know, as my strong supporter and since then we've become very good friends and he's become obsessed with this issue.

02:11:36.000 In fact, more obsessed than I because I've got to make a living and raise kids and worry about kids in college and things like that.

02:11:44.000 So, I've told you what I believe.

02:11:47.000 I think there's too many coincidences going on.

02:11:50.000 Let me stop you right there, Senator, and I want to bring Tom Flacco in and take some calls.

02:11:54.000 Again, I don't know Hunter S. Thompson, but you put this in a book, you've done this in radio interviews years ago, saying that the witnesses said it was Hunter S. Thompson.

02:12:04.000 Again, you've never been sued for your book.

02:12:08.000 A major TV station said you were making stuff up.

02:12:11.000 You sued them and won.

02:12:13.000 So you've stood the test of time.

02:12:15.000 That's why we're interviewing you.

02:12:17.000 And then everything you said I've been able to check out and prove, except this Thompson thing.

02:12:22.000 I mean, have you ever heard from the family?

02:12:24.000 Or explain to me why Thompson's telling other reporters that he's, quote, investigating this?

02:12:29.000 I mean, what's... I mean, why do you say Thompson?

02:12:33.000 Okay, I will only give you what I wrote in the original book.

02:12:37.000 It was originally from 1990.

02:12:38.000 In other testimony, Bonassi said that Larry King was talking about a ceremony they had at Bohemian Grove, okay, where they did a snuff film.

02:12:47.000 Okay?

02:12:48.000 In other testimony, Banassi said that Larry King was smiling and laughing the whole time the film was being shown.

02:12:54.000 And that, quote, the men with the hoods, unquote, were a satanic group which planned to use the dead boy in some sort of ceremony.

02:13:02.000 He also named the director of the snuff film whom they had picked up in Las Vegas as, quote, Hunter Thompson.

02:13:10.000 And I didn't know Hunter Thompson from A Bale of Hay or Nikita Khrushchev or anything else.

02:13:16.000 When I wrote it, I wrote what the kid said, and only later did I learn the distinction this apparent individual has in the journalistic community.

02:13:27.000 And as you know, when he did blow his brains out here, what, a couple weeks ago now, right after the Gannon thing broke, when he blew his brains out, I mean, that seemed to be lead news on TV, radio, networks, and everything else for a couple days.

02:13:40.000 And that kind of seemed strange to me.

02:13:43.000 And one of the things they kept bringing up, of course, was his Strange association in the world of the occult and blah blah blah.

02:13:50.000 So, is it the same one?

02:13:53.000 I don't know.

02:13:53.000 Is it the same one, do I believe?

02:13:55.000 Absolutely.

02:13:57.000 Okay, so, exactly.

02:13:59.000 And that stuff was in the news, and there just could be somebody else, but according to... No, this guy was... Anyway, I'm not going to prove it one way or the other.

02:14:10.000 No, but I'm trying to go off what you just said.

02:14:11.000 You're saying, you know, is this the same person?

02:14:14.000 I don't know, but you're saying you think it is.

02:14:17.000 I feel even more certain that it's the same person than I do.

02:14:21.000 Well, you know, he told a reporter that they're probably going to kill me, and then nobody saw him shoot himself.

02:14:31.000 Well, I'll quote another thing from my book.

02:14:33.000 I quoted back then, when asked about Gary Caridori, remember the private investigator?

02:14:38.000 Colby was hired special.

02:14:41.000 He had opened his own private firm, you know, investigating firm by then.

02:14:44.000 And he turned to me and he, John, He said, John, if it's done right, we'll never know who did it.

02:14:53.000 Or whatever.

02:14:54.000 Anyway, he made it very clear that, you know, if it's done right, blah, blah, blah.

02:14:58.000 And he used the example.

02:14:59.000 He gave me a specific example.

02:15:01.000 I'll give it to you right here.

02:15:04.000 Probably people don't remember this, but there used to be a most famous guy down in South America named Allende, remember?

02:15:10.000 Yes.

02:15:10.000 Okay, he was what, prime minister or head of whatever one of those countries?

02:15:15.000 Argentina or somewhere.

02:15:17.000 Anyway, and the United States was at odds with him.

02:15:20.000 And suddenly he ends up killed.

02:15:24.000 And as Colby said, the CIA took the blame for it.

02:15:27.000 Said, everybody knew we wanted it done.

02:15:29.000 Everybody blamed the CIA, world governments all around.

02:15:32.000 He said, that's perfect crime.

02:15:34.000 Because he said, we really didn't do it.

02:15:36.000 We wanted it done, but we didn't do that one.

02:15:38.000 So anyway, I would say that's kind of the same way it is with some of these.

02:15:44.000 Unbelievable.

02:15:45.000 And I wish, as I say, I repeat again, now we began this conversation, I wish I knew nothing of this.

02:15:50.000 I wish I was a sweet, innocent, whatever.

02:15:52.000 This is amazing.

02:15:55.000 Tom Flacco, we've got about two minutes left in this segment.

02:15:57.000 We're going to come back and take calls, questions, or comments for our guests.

02:16:01.000 John, do you think that there are sitting United States Congressmen and Senators, or having recently, or recently retired, who are involved in this and are still sitting there, even as we prosecute, you know, Michael Jackson and 70-80 year old priest out of retirement and prosecute them and put them in prison.

02:16:19.000 Do you think that there are sitting congressmen and senators who are getting a free pass for pedophilia?

02:16:24.000 Okay.

02:16:25.000 Answer this very carefully, very directly, and as straight as I've ever answered anything.

02:16:30.000 No, I do not think.

02:16:33.000 Yes, I do know.

02:16:34.000 Do you understand what I'm saying?

02:16:37.000 Okay, yes, you do know.

02:16:38.000 Okay.

02:16:39.000 In other words, I don't think.

02:16:42.000 I know.

02:16:43.000 You do too.

02:16:45.000 Now, you said another thing that I put in my story.

02:16:48.000 Some of these things I put in the story, you'll find out, because I thought they were quite incredible.

02:16:52.000 Maureen Goshen said about the plane crash that there was pornography all over the field.

02:16:55.000 That's all in the story.

02:16:56.000 But with regard to the photos, I had another key question to raise.

02:17:00.000 Judge Erbom, here he is hearing this incredible, incredible testimony in federal district court on February the 5th of 1999.

02:17:06.000 He's hearing this testimony and You know, why isn't he saying, hey, show me more pictures?

02:17:12.000 I want to subpoena all 20,000 pictures, or all 30,000 pictures.

02:17:15.000 I want to see them all.

02:17:16.000 I want to have Paul Venassi identify the faces, name some names.

02:17:23.000 What happened with the judge?

02:17:26.000 I hold the judge.

02:17:27.000 How is he not taking care of the children by not bringing this out?

02:17:31.000 Obviously, I'm being rhetorical here, but that's my question.

02:17:35.000 Oh, we got a break.

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02:21:44.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

02:21:48.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

02:21:52.000 Somebody's got to tell the truth.

02:21:56.000 Somebody's got to talk about these issues and explore them.

02:21:59.000 I know that DimeCorps in 2000 was civilly convicted.

02:22:04.000 Of kidnapping 200,000 women and children.

02:22:07.000 And flying them out to countries all over the world.

02:22:10.000 Then they just changed their name.

02:22:13.000 The UN, everywhere they go, this is what they do.

02:22:15.000 It's systematic.

02:22:16.000 It's what they're designed to do.

02:22:18.000 My question, before we go to Lance and Tom and Sean and Jeremy and Mark, and those are the five calls we'll have time to take with our guests, my question to both of you, John DeCamp, Tom Flacco, investigating this, but John DeCamp along this, What's... I mean, Nero did stuff like this.

02:22:33.000 Elites throughout history were into this.

02:22:35.000 Is this like a rite of passage or something?

02:22:37.000 Because for the rest of us who are normal, this is so alien, it's hard for us to even mentally get our minds around it.

02:22:44.000 Senator?

02:22:45.000 I've asked myself that question more often than any other question, because I've learned so much over the last 15 years, since I got really up to my eyebrows in this, and then of course there's some Pretty heavy-duty experience in politics also had kind of the other side.

02:23:01.000 I think there is a network, strange as this may sound, a network where to maintain control of your network and make sure something doesn't go wrong you have to have certain people compromised or to a position where they they have to cooperate or do what you want and I think this is one of the most powerful techniques that's been devised Use of, particularly, pedophilia and this type of thing.

02:23:29.000 That's what I've read.

02:23:31.000 Mankind's always saying that from the moment Adam was there, or whatever, sex seems to be one of the most controlling things.

02:23:41.000 Well, we know the old-fashioned mafia did this.

02:23:43.000 We know that gangs have to go kill an innocent person.

02:23:47.000 That's how they become a member.

02:23:49.000 I mean, this is the mode to get somebody compromised, and I agree with you on that.

02:23:54.000 Tom Flacco, comments?

02:23:56.000 Well, you know, I've thought about this myself, and I just, you know, you wonder, and you think about, you know, where is, as I said before, where is the judge protecting the kids?

02:24:06.000 He gives you a million, awards you a million dollars, On behalf of your client, you know... But let's not look at all these hundreds of other kids.

02:24:13.000 Let's not put out APBs and Amber Alerts and... Let's just shut this down.

02:24:17.000 That's basically... It seems like he's shutting it down.

02:24:19.000 I was disturbed by the child auctions that Paul described.

02:24:23.000 Auctions... Let me touch upon one thing you said, okay?

02:24:26.000 And I've got to be super, super cautious because there have been more attempts to punish me, get my bar license than somewhat since I wrote this, but you mentioned what happened to the judge, okay?

02:24:35.000 The judge acted on the evidence.

02:24:38.000 The judge So I can't say the judge didn't, but I could tell there was some awful, hostile prejudice when the lawsuit was first filed, both in the media and otherwise.

02:24:51.000 Now remember, the first named defendant, the first person named in that lawsuit wasn't Larry King or anybody else.

02:24:58.000 The first named defendant, I'm going to make people mad now, was the Catholic Archdiocese of Omaha and certain Catholic priests.

02:25:08.000 And of course, they were rapidly dismissed because nobody could believe this at that time.

02:25:13.000 This was the first of these kind of lawsuits.

02:25:15.000 Yeah, this was 15 years ago and nobody had heard of this.

02:25:17.000 Right, way before.

02:25:18.000 This was the first lawsuit of its kind filed in the United States where the name, the Catholic Church was named.

02:25:24.000 Now remember, I was a little boy raised a Catholic and I'm not going to criticize the church or any other church.

02:25:29.000 All I'm saying is, this was the first time in the United States of America where somebody boldly stepped forward and said, hey, you've got a problem.

02:25:37.000 These priests are abusing certain kids.

02:25:39.000 And since then, so much of what you put out over a decade ago has come out in other investigations.

02:25:44.000 Oh God, yes.

02:25:45.000 How many judgments and settlements and what's happened with the church.

02:25:47.000 When I first wrote it then, 15 years ago, when I filed that lawsuit in 1990 or 1991, whatever it was, when I filed that first lawsuit, one in which I won the million, the first game defendant was in fact the Catholic Church in the Archdiocese of Omaha and certain Catholic priests.

02:26:05.000 Obviously, it got out of the lawsuit, but the rest is history.

02:26:10.000 So I use that only as an example to show how strange this all began.

02:26:16.000 Alright, gentlemen, I want to be fair to the callers.

02:26:18.000 Let me just keep both of you about ten more minutes so we can start taking calls.

02:26:21.000 We've got a break here in a second, but right now, Lance in Maryland.

02:26:24.000 You're on the air, Lance.

02:26:25.000 Go ahead.

02:26:27.000 Alex?

02:26:27.000 Yes?

02:26:28.000 I have another number for you.

02:26:31.000 Well, I don't want to give people... What's the phone number to?

02:26:33.000 Okay, I want to tell you about this.

02:26:34.000 There's the American Center for Law and Justice has set up a special petition line to save Terry Chavez's life.

02:26:43.000 And he can sign on to the petition.

02:26:45.000 I'll tell you what, let me put you on hold and we can leave our guest here in about 10-15 minutes.

02:26:49.000 I'll go back to you.

02:26:50.000 Tom in Tennessee.

02:26:51.000 Tom, go ahead.

02:26:53.000 You're on the air, Tom.

02:26:54.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

02:26:55.000 I just wanted to bring up one thing that I haven't heard discussed regarding the, uh, Gunkard-Gannon thing.

02:27:02.000 In, uh, 1982, when Johnny Gosch was kidnapped, he delivered papers for the Des Moines Register.

02:27:08.000 I think I read this in, uh, Doreen Gosch's book, that the editor of that newspaper's name was James Gannon.

02:27:15.000 That's all I had.

02:27:16.000 Yeah, right.

02:27:18.000 Is that true?

02:27:19.000 Yep.

02:27:20.000 Yeah, I'm aware of that.

02:27:20.000 That's from, uh, Why Can't Johnny Come Home by Noreen Gush, I believe.

02:27:25.000 Unbelievable.

02:27:26.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

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02:30:50.000 Waging war on corruption.

02:30:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:30:56.000 Alright, I wanted Lance to hold, so when our guests leave us here in a few minutes, we can get into the Terry Schiavo situation, which is very serious.

02:31:05.000 I don't know if you can get back in, Lance, but if you're able to, go ahead, just try to dial and hear somebody hang up.

02:31:12.000 We're about to go to Sean, Jeremy, Mark, and Jeff.

02:31:14.000 That'll be it for calls for our guests, but gentlemen, the comment that the last caller made The comment that John had made was very interesting about one of these editors having the same name as Gannon today.

02:31:30.000 I mean, maybe that is a coincidence, but that's pretty spooky, isn't it?

02:31:36.000 Well, I have no idea.

02:31:37.000 I don't know.

02:31:38.000 I wouldn't know what to say.

02:31:38.000 John probably answered that better than I could.

02:31:40.000 You know, where did he get the name?

02:31:43.000 Why did he pick that name?

02:31:46.000 It's interesting.

02:31:46.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Sean in Alabama.

02:31:50.000 Sean, you're on the air.

02:31:51.000 Go ahead.

02:31:52.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:31:53.000 Hello, sir.

02:31:55.000 I'd like to say hello to Mr. Flacco and Senator DeCamp.

02:31:58.000 It's an honor to be speaking with both of you.

02:31:59.000 Thanks.

02:32:00.000 This is a very disturbing subject.

02:32:06.000 Alex, you keep asking, you know, what is it that makes these people do this?

02:32:14.000 I think the answer to it is really simple, and it was given by Christ almost 2000 years ago. 0.99

02:32:19.000 They're a society of psychopaths! 0.92

02:32:22.000 And he was speaking to the corrupt spiritual leaders of his time, and the answer that he gave is, You are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father you will do. 0.99

02:32:34.000 He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.

02:32:39.000 And that's the only answer that makes any sense in my mind as to why these people do the things they do.

02:32:46.000 Alright, good point.

02:32:47.000 Appreciate the call.

02:32:48.000 I agree with that.

02:32:50.000 Any comments on that, John?

02:32:52.000 Pardon?

02:32:53.000 John DeCamp, any comments on that?

02:32:55.000 I'm not smart enough to know what all the answers are.

02:32:59.000 Let's talk to up next here is Jeremy in Florida.

02:33:03.000 Jeremy, you're on the air.

02:33:04.000 Go ahead.

02:33:05.000 How are you guys doing today?

02:33:07.000 Um, I was wondering, Alex, do you remember the lady who called in last week and she mentioned something about there could be a possible connection between the Lefkoe murders and this whole Gannon story and then some other little elements that she brought up?

02:33:19.000 Yeah, she was saying there had been a bunch of deaths with people in and around the case, and then separate deaths and arrests being brought up now by Senator DeCamp.

02:33:29.000 Yeah, I was wondering if, uh, I can't remember, the reporter, if he found anything pertaining to that.

02:33:37.000 Tom?

02:33:38.000 Well, you're saying reporter, but you're talking about me about finding, what did you say?

02:33:42.000 Finding... Information depending to what the lady said about the Lesko case being related, the murders being related to the Gannon case, and so on and so forth.

02:33:52.000 No, I haven't heard anything about that.

02:33:55.000 No, I have not.

02:33:56.000 You know, it's what John is saying here is that there are a surprising number of coincidences.

02:34:02.000 I mean, I thought that the, it was incredible, the issue of Troy.

02:34:07.000 You're talking 2003.

02:34:07.000 That's contemporaneous here.

02:34:11.000 We're talking about the timing, just before the primary season.

02:34:17.000 That started to kick in.

02:34:18.000 There must have been something bubbling under the surface.

02:34:21.000 This is a good question.

02:34:24.000 Why is this all coming out now, Senator DeCamp?

02:34:28.000 I truly wonder the same thing.

02:34:29.000 I truly wonder the same thing.

02:34:31.000 Unless I've thought about it, I can just speculate.

02:34:35.000 Speculation only.

02:34:37.000 What if one element is trying to compromise or get even or punish or destroy another competing element?

02:34:44.000 That's what I've been saying for two weeks.

02:34:46.000 It's kind of like two people, we're both thieves, getting on the odds with each other.

02:34:55.000 Alex, we're getting bombarded every single night.

02:35:01.000 on cable television with pedophilia and Michael Jackson over and over again ad nauseum.

02:35:06.000 It's incredible.

02:35:07.000 You have to turn your television off or flip over to sports or something because it just gets tiring.

02:35:13.000 They went with the Gannon thing, the Gannon thing died out.

02:35:15.000 You don't have reporters who are willing to press and who are willing to go after a story.

02:35:23.000 I hear you.

02:35:24.000 Because they just write a story, and after doing it a few times, they get to say, we can't print that, we're not going to print that.

02:35:30.000 Thanks for the call, Jeremy.

02:35:32.000 I mean, I'd say this.

02:35:33.000 Why did Rupert Murdoch's New York Post last year come out with the headline, Top Gay Born Star Services Moguls at Bohemian Grove?

02:35:41.000 I mean, it looks to me like you've got groups within this group leveraging each other.

02:35:46.000 That's what I've been saying for two weeks.

02:35:47.000 Yeah, I kind of suspect.

02:35:49.000 This is John DeCamp.

02:35:50.000 The more I watch, the more I observe, the more I remember how this all worked here.

02:35:55.000 It was, well, you better be careful what you say because we have, you know what I mean?

02:35:59.000 And then they have to show their hand a little bit to show that they really can It was a pretty bad thing.

02:36:04.000 Notice where George Bush was, where his back was against the wall after a 9-11.

02:36:09.000 Where did he fly?

02:36:10.000 He went to Nebraska.

02:36:11.000 He went to Offutt Air Force Base.

02:36:13.000 And the testimony that I read... And met with hundreds of top CEOs in a secret meeting, and they'd been there at 8 that morning, before the attacks even took place, with Warren Buffett.

02:36:23.000 Now, all the people that were part of this... I mean, it's just like a revisit of the Franklin cover-up book.

02:36:29.000 You know, just why did it go to Offutt Air Force Base?

02:36:32.000 Let me bring that up.

02:36:33.000 Do you have any comments on that, Senator DeCamp?

02:36:36.000 Well, the obvious one is the one that was officially given, that Offutt Air Force Base is in the middle of the United States.

02:36:43.000 It's about as far as you can get, and supposedly the most secure place on planet Earth, away from Russian... Why would all those CEOs be there that morning? 1.00

02:36:53.000 Well, now that's another good question, because you remember in my book, Offutt was the centerpiece of where kids were Offit and quite frankly a lot of kids out of Boys Town was the centerpiece of where they were taken and then flown here, flown there, taken here, taken there, so on and so forth.

02:37:08.000 So I have my own, I guess, opinions and suspicions, but do I have any proof of anything?

02:37:14.000 No.

02:37:14.000 We know the facts.

02:37:15.000 The facts are this is where the president came, and we also know from my book, which I proved I think in spades over and over, Buffett was a centerpiece, as was a couple of other players.

02:37:26.000 Unbelievable.

02:37:27.000 Two quick final calls.

02:37:28.000 Mark in Nevada.

02:37:29.000 Go ahead, Mark.

02:37:31.000 Hey, how are you gentlemen doing?

02:37:32.000 Good.

02:37:33.000 Alex, you left out the CEOs who were supposed to be at the World Trade Center.

02:37:36.000 Some of them, by the way.

02:37:37.000 Yeah, most of them worked at the World Trade Center, but they had all been called there by Warren Buffett for a special meeting that morning.

02:37:44.000 The genesis of the Gannon is gosh story.

02:37:47.000 It wasn't so much conjecture from the Internet.

02:37:49.000 Actually, I think The one who first gave us ready legs is actually Sherman Skolnick.

02:37:54.000 I wanted to point that out.

02:37:55.000 And also, Hunter Thompson, I will say this, he certainly has a very interesting profile.

02:38:00.000 Connections to the CIA involved with Uh, you know, illicit drug use, and so on and so forth.

02:38:08.000 Well, it's like Timothy Leary, later a minute he was FBI and CIA.

02:38:11.000 We've got the head of the feminist movement, Gloria Steinem, saying she was CIA.

02:38:15.000 So many of these cult figures are.

02:38:17.000 The other thing is, I was wondering, real quick, for the guest, John DeCamp, has he been able to locate this Lawrence King?

02:38:24.000 Because I think I figured out where he's at.

02:38:27.000 I can tell you where he's at.

02:38:30.000 You want to show about remarkable power?

02:38:33.000 He got paroled here about almost two years ago now.

02:38:36.000 He got paroled directly to a place called Washington, D.C.

02:38:42.000 Again, Larry King, not the Larry King of TV, a black Larry King, who opened both the Republican National Convention in 84 and 88. 0.97

02:38:50.000 I know I was Republican delegate at the convention.

02:38:52.000 Tell us about this guy.

02:38:52.000 He was convicted.

02:38:55.000 Tell us briefly about King.

02:38:57.000 Larry King was officially labeled by the New York Times and others as the fastest rising black star in the Republican Party.

02:39:03.000 He had a one-on-one relationship with Reagan and with Bush.

02:39:08.000 In fact, he picked up the phone and he proved to people he could call Reagan on the phone.

02:39:12.000 He also was the one who opened and sang the national anthem at the Republican National Convention in 1984 and 1988.

02:39:19.000 And I repeat, I know I was there at the biggest party he ever gave because I was an elected delegate to both Republican National Conventions.

02:39:27.000 Blah, blah, blah.

02:39:28.000 What about, you know, we have the, what, 89 story out of the Washington Times.

02:39:35.000 I have the actual copy of it, you know, the Midnight Tours for the Underage Cowboys.

02:39:39.000 That's by Rodriguez.

02:39:41.000 And then we've got, again, a Barney Frank.

02:39:43.000 Who else could be caught running an underage, pedophile folks, ring out of his penthouse and he didn't get in trouble?

02:39:51.000 I mean, these people, they get caught and nothing happens!

02:39:54.000 Because of where else it would lead.

02:39:55.000 It's the only thing you could think of.

02:39:57.000 And John, why weren't there more senators and congressmen named?

02:40:02.000 And what about the pictures?

02:40:03.000 Are we going to see pictures on the internet?

02:40:05.000 You have 20, 30,000 pictures.

02:40:07.000 Let's say half of them to three quarters of them have been confiscated by federal authority.

02:40:11.000 You told me the other day, and I put in the story, that federal authorities were looking for the photos now.

02:40:18.000 Well, why would they be looking for the photos in a case that's supposedly closed?

02:40:22.000 The people have gone to jail, and it's been 10, 12, 13 years, 15 years.

02:40:26.000 Okay, once again, if I say it, you can pretty well take it as true.

02:40:31.000 In this particular case, I happen to have the search warrants, the copies of the search warrants.

02:40:35.000 And they list all these things they're looking for.

02:40:38.000 And yes indeed they are exactly what we're talking about pedophile pictures and computer this and computer tapes and everything else and they listed all the various locations where they thought they might gain access to them.

02:40:47.000 What they actually found there I do not know I wasn't in on the search and they definitely would not share that with me I'm sure.

02:40:54.000 Did they have a search?

02:40:56.000 Yes.

02:40:57.000 When was it?

02:40:58.000 Well, we've got to be careful that Gannon isn't somebody who then mixes in disinfo with all the other stuff that's true, then they bring it all out and discredit the whole thing.

02:41:09.000 That's certainly one method.

02:41:11.000 And I tend to lean, I said last week, 80% chance this is an internal war right now, and they're all holding things over each other's heads.

02:41:20.000 I think so, Alex, I think that's definitely.

02:41:24.000 I don't think the Gannon-Gosch thing is as important as the fact that As what he represented, or the fact that the, that why would you let, it's like saying that, you know, a whole pool of White House reporters who advertise themselves as $200 a day, $1,200, $1,200 a day, $200 an hour male prostitutes as reporters.

02:41:43.000 What if we had 10 or 15 of them?

02:41:45.000 How could you have that kind of a situation?

02:41:47.000 And it keeps coming up over and over and over again in mainstream news.

02:41:51.000 Okay, thanks Mark.

02:41:52.000 Final call.

02:41:53.000 Jeff, South Dakota, you're on the air.

02:41:55.000 Go ahead.

02:41:57.000 Yes, sir.

02:41:58.000 I'm suffering from brain fatigue.

02:42:02.000 I lived about two and a half blocks from Larry King up in North Omaha for my whole life until about 97.

02:42:10.000 There was always something in the neighborhood.

02:42:12.000 We knew stuff was wrong.

02:42:14.000 I moved out years ago.

02:42:15.000 I went back to Omaha for a reunion about two years ago.

02:42:18.000 I was with some friends of mine.

02:42:20.000 We was at an electronics store and I brought your name up Alex and we got into Franklin cover up and on and on and on and there was a contractor next to us you can hear he's listening to us he said he was a carpenter and I was like well that's obvious shouldn't he get all the garb for it but he says no you don't understand he says I did a bunch of work for Larry King making a whole bunch of what he considered walk-in closets on his property so they were about four feet by six feet

02:42:47.000 And I'm wondering if John DeCamp has ever heard anything that or seen a floor layout for King's property up there off Florence Boulevard, North Omaha.

02:42:55.000 Paul Bonassi and some others brought this up to me.

02:43:01.000 I did not put this in my book because I did not have the proof.

02:43:04.000 I did not physically see this myself.

02:43:06.000 I did not have anything and I couldn't risk making any accusation that I couldn't prove in spades.

02:43:13.000 Okay, because the reason I was saying this is because when we told this guy A little more about it, because he hadn't really heard other than, you know, the hoopla that was going on in Omaha, you know, over the Franklin cover, people getting fired, you know, cops getting fired because of Wadman's corruption and stuff.

02:43:26.000 He left there visibly shook, I mean, shaking, just, it was unbelievable.

02:43:31.000 He just got in his pickup and hauled ass, and that was, excuse my Spanish, last time I'd ever seen that man, but yeah, he said he put a bunch of, they were about four by six, what he considered walking closets with benches.

02:43:44.000 So this guy wasn't lying to me then, was he? 0.88

02:43:47.000 I do not know.

02:43:47.000 I have heard that story from others.

02:43:50.000 You have heard that?

02:43:51.000 I have heard it.

02:43:52.000 Do I have the proof?

02:43:53.000 No.

02:43:53.000 And did Larry King invite me to look?

02:43:55.000 No.

02:43:56.000 Okay, because there's something that has bothered me for years... But Larry King went to jail, folks.

02:44:01.000 Alright, thanks for calling.

02:44:02.000 Yeah, about ten years he served, I think.

02:44:03.000 Eight or ten.

02:44:04.000 John, is there evidence that this is still going on in Nebraska? 1.00

02:44:08.000 He's a pig's ass pork. 1.00

02:44:10.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:44:14.000 Oh, boy.

02:44:15.000 Well, I mean, John, I'm sure you know about DynCorp getting caught doing this stuff, right?

02:44:20.000 Correct.

02:44:20.000 I mean, that's like BBC Associated Press.

02:44:23.000 I mean, we're talking about industrial.

02:44:26.000 We're talking about, you know, two football stadiums of children and women in one year.

02:44:30.000 Yeah, I know.

02:44:31.000 This is industrial.

02:44:32.000 This is mega-massive.

02:44:34.000 And, you know, they hunt in the third world.

02:44:38.000 They don't hunt as much here.

02:44:41.000 But we need to expose this so they don't hunt here.

02:44:43.000 This is not a safe place for you to hunt. 1.00

02:44:47.000 You pieces of trash that are going straight to Hades. 1.00

02:44:50.000 That's all I can say. 1.00

02:44:50.000 Well, I want to commend both of you, Tom Flacco, Senator John DeCamp. 1.00

02:44:54.000 People can read Tom Flacco's detailed reportage at TomFlacco.com.

02:44:57.000 And Senator DeCamp, definitely, please have your secretary send me a new copy, a complimentary, or I'll pay for it if you want.

02:45:02.000 I'll get you a copy and you can mention it on the air if you choose.

02:45:05.000 And the only reason I reprinted it, I have never spent one penny, not one penny, advertising or promoting the book.

02:45:12.000 But we were having so many people calling back orders, so I got a reprint of a A few thousand, and updated it with, like I said, some of the things, including some other names you've mentioned here.

02:45:21.000 How many copies of the book?

02:45:23.000 How many copies of the original book have gone out?

02:45:25.000 About 120,000, 121,000.

02:45:27.000 That's with no promotion.

02:45:29.000 And the people don't challenge it, because it's all court records and documents.

02:45:32.000 Folks, please give people that are listening the address or email how they get the book, Senator.

02:45:39.000 Oh, shoot.

02:45:40.000 DeCampLegal at INebraska.com or net, which is I know because it's on my site and 20,000 people have read the story already and so I'm promoting the email within the text body of the story.

02:46:05.000 So John, you should be getting a few e-mails.

02:46:07.000 Hey, I gotta thank you for giving that because I didn't know.

02:46:11.000 No, you're going to get... I'm sure you're going to get there.

02:46:13.000 I think it's really dumber than dog poo now and I couldn't even tell you. 0.99

02:46:16.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.99

02:46:16.000 Well, you just got out of the hospital from major surgery. 0.99

02:46:19.000 John DeCamp, I want to thank you again for coming on and I want to thank you for joining us as well.

02:46:24.000 Tom Flacco, we'll continue to watch this as it develops.

02:46:26.000 I'm sure we'll get a transcript made of this interview, Tom, and I hope that you post it because a lot of vital stuff was said here.

02:46:32.000 Send me the link and we'll get it up.

02:46:34.000 Alright, Tom Flacco, God bless, and of course to you too, John DeCamp, we talked off air, final comment, you and your family are a little bit worried about your safety right now.

02:46:44.000 Yeah.

02:46:46.000 Yeah.

02:46:47.000 Well, God's with you, my friend, and if they kill you, people will pay more attention to what you've done.

02:46:52.000 That is not my desire.

02:46:54.000 Exactly, no, so I don't think they're going to get you.

02:46:56.000 Talk to you later, thanks.

02:46:57.000 Alright, take care.

02:46:58.000 Alright, there goes Tom Flacco and Senator John DeCamp, and again, I respect John DeCamp, but so much of what he said I've checked out myself, and it's true.

02:47:09.000 Again, on a lot of this we just don't know, but we know there's smoke.

02:47:11.000 I mean, this is smoke billowing.

02:47:14.000 You can see the flame inside the smoke, and it just keeps popping up over and over and over again, and I mean, they don't deny this stuff.

02:47:22.000 I mean, Barney Frank, all of it, it's just disgusting.

02:47:26.000 And these people have got control of our country, and Homeland Security, and this whole system is a way to control the people. 1.00

02:47:32.000 And they are the most evil scum the planet has ever seen. 0.99

02:47:37.000 And they're getting more and more power. 1.00

02:47:39.000 And they want our guns.

02:47:40.000 And if we give up our liberties for so-called security, we're not going to get any of it.

02:47:46.000 And I just beg people out there to speak out about this, to educate yourself.

02:47:52.000 To get your children out of these public schools where they want to force psychologically test all of them and drug them.

02:47:57.000 I mean, this is an abusive system that is teaching us how to be abusive to the children.

02:48:03.000 It is teaching the society how to turn children into prisoners and put them in jail for writing the word gun in a fiction story or to basically just destroy the society.

02:48:15.000 I mean, two-thirds of foster children are on, more than two-thirds, are on psychotropic drugs.

02:48:20.000 I mean, just look what this government does to children. 0.99

02:48:24.000 Look at how the media, you know, it's out of control. 1.00

02:48:29.000 And the globalists are the scum of the earth. 1.00

02:48:31.000 It's the only term I can think of to describe them. 1.00

02:48:33.000 They are the bottom of the pit of Hades.

02:48:38.000 God needs us to stand up and defend the little ones.

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02:52:06.000 The Globalists are from another world, another dimension, another mindset, another spirit in the general public. 0.92

02:52:13.000 And we've got to stop being naive.

02:52:15.000 You know, they're saying that Alciada is going to hit the schools.

02:52:19.000 That's out of Reuters.

02:52:21.000 Alciada may target U.S.

02:52:23.000 theaters and schools.

02:52:26.000 And they're saying that Abu Al-Zawahiri is going to... Abu Musab Al-Zawahiri is going to be attacking any minute.

02:52:35.000 But the problem is, is they claim they've killed him once, and they've captured him four times, and they never retract the last capture.

02:52:43.000 It's just, oh, we captured him again, oh, we killed him again.

02:52:46.000 And they're saying that they've got, you know, really good sources that, uh, this is Time Magazine CNN's lit edition, that, you know, may be hit any moment.

02:52:54.000 The schools, the public schools, Just like Russia, just like the rest of it, it'll be a staged event, and God help those children. 1.00

02:53:02.000 Anybody who's got their children in a government training camp, or they might have a private school, is just nuts.

02:53:08.000 We've got to get the globalists out of power. 0.94

02:53:09.000 We've at least got to expose them so badly, that they stop being so arrogant, and so over the top.

02:53:15.000 Of course, now it's coming out on MSNBC, no evidence that Al-Syedah knew of Madrid plot.

02:53:21.000 The year after terrorists killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,500 at two Madrid train stations, both U.S.

02:53:27.000 and Spanish officials say there is no evidence that Al-Qaeda leadership authorized or even knew of the plan.

02:53:33.000 No, but it's mainstream news in Spain who was behind it.

02:53:37.000 Activists rally to save Terri Schiavo.

02:53:40.000 They're scheduled to pull her feeding tube today. 0.98

02:53:43.000 The woman is not brain dead.

02:53:45.000 She's not even that brain damaged. 0.92

02:53:48.000 She is just paralyzed and they want to set the precedent to kill her and everybody should be calling the governor, calling the protective families and saying, hey, why don't you really protect somebody for once?

02:54:00.000 And we had callers earlier trying to call her and the other guests and I told them to call back in.

02:54:03.000 Did any of them call back in at the end here to talk about Terry?

02:54:07.000 I guess they didn't because they had details and I wanted to get to them.

02:54:13.000 I'll be talking more about this tomorrow and we'll continue to fight.

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