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00:00:00.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

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00:00:46.000 Well I jumped in this seat right on time.

00:00:49.000 We'll be live here for the next three hours and I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:00:55.000 We've got two great guests coming up today.

00:00:56.000 Of course he normally joins us once a week.

00:00:58.000 Paul Joseph Watson will be on with us.

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00:01:18.000 So you don't want to miss that coming up in the second hour with Jim Rothstein.

00:01:24.000 I heard him on the Jack Blood Show last week and I've I heard that Mr. Rothstein interviewed before, and just powerful information dovetails with what Senator John DeCamp was talking about here on the broadcast just a couple days ago on Monday, along with the other guests that we were talking to.

00:01:42.000 But before we get to all of that news, interesting article out of the Associated Press yesterday, White House defends video news releases Remember last year it came out when Bush was pushing his Medicare, Medicaid, prescription drug plan for seniors?

00:02:00.000 That they'd spent 76 million dollars, 76 million dollars just on one fake news release package.

00:02:13.000 They didn't just send these video news releases out to local networks, local TV stations, they paid them to run them.

00:02:20.000 Well, now it comes out that it's over $240 million that they've spent on other types of these little fake news releases.

00:02:30.000 And the GAO, the General Accounting Office, which is the investigative arm of Congress, told them that it was illegal and covert propaganda, but it doesn't matter.

00:02:43.000 Bush and his new Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales, say they're above the law, and Gonzales has released a ruling saying no!

00:02:50.000 They're allowed to do it and not tell the public that it's fake newscasts.

00:02:54.000 So, this is the level of propaganda and brainwashing that we're dealing with, and I want to talk about it with you, the listeners, today.

00:03:05.000 Also, I have reports here out of USA Today, yesterday, Fictional 24 brings real issue of Torture Home.

00:03:15.000 TV heroes' tactics, debated in a world after Abu Ghraib.

00:03:22.000 And they actually say it's good.

00:03:24.000 The show is fighting torture.

00:03:26.000 Of course, that's the complete opposite of what's really going on.

00:03:30.000 These shows are paid off by the government, that's admitted.

00:03:33.000 They're quote, advised by Homeland Security, all these different shows.

00:03:37.000 CSI Miami, Threat Matrix 24, MI6, all these different programs.

00:03:43.000 And it's all the same script, just the names of the characters are changed.

00:03:47.000 On many of the programs, they torture children to make their parents answer questions.

00:03:52.000 But Amnesty International says it's good.

00:03:55.000 Now they've always been a controlled arm, so we will go over this propaganda as well.

00:04:01.000 And the New York Times is reporting U.S.

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00:04:09.000 It's a lengthy article, but I do want to go over that with you.

00:04:12.000 And the Pentagon is saying the anthrax alert of the last two days proved to be false.

00:04:18.000 Well, then why did two different military post offices or mail rooms have alerts?

00:04:26.000 Sounds like a staged event to me.

00:04:28.000 You've certainly caught them releasing fake terror alerts in the past.

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00:08:05.000 Big Brother.

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00:08:21.000 Again, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us in the show.

00:08:42.000 It is Wednesday, the 16th day of March 2005.

00:08:47.000 We've got 2 hours and 51 minutes 10 seconds spanning out before us.

00:08:53.000 Paul Watson with his news report.

00:08:56.000 As he joins us once a week, we'll be with us in about 22 minutes.

00:09:00.000 And then we have a former New York detective who was also on a governor's state board investigating the government-run white slavery rings.

00:09:10.000 That's what it led back to.

00:09:12.000 So, coming up later, you will hear, of course, Paul Watson and then the detective, Jim Rothstein.

00:09:21.000 Believe me, you do not want to miss this important information.

00:09:25.000 But I want to plunge into this first.

00:09:29.000 And there's so many examples of this, so much background to this.

00:09:34.000 I talk more and more about this on the broadcast.

00:09:36.000 I've been discussing it for years and years and years, long before anybody else was talking about it.

00:09:43.000 I mean, it was very rarely discussed, and I watched it develop with horror during Bill Clinton's tutelage.

00:09:51.000 When he was the head puppet-in-chief, it got really bad under Clinton.

00:09:57.000 I knew from hearings back in the seventies that it had been going on back into the thirties with programs like Reefer Madness, paid for by the government, paid for by the big cartels that brought in, publicly, the opium and cocaine, And then manufacture it and turn the opium into heroin.

00:10:19.000 They didn't like the fact that competition was undercutting them and the price was being driven down.

00:10:24.000 And they just lost a prohibition which the alcohol producers themselves had actually lobbied for and then already pre-positioned themselves in Canada and other areas to then roughly increase the price of alcohol tenfold.

00:10:39.000 But people had gotten wise to that scam and so they had

00:10:44.000 struck him down uh... that particular uh... constitutional amendment and so they need to make something illegal and made uh... narcotics illegal heroin, cocaine and other things that were sold over the counter and then jacked up the prices uh... massively helped corrupt the police and re-energize their organized crime syndicates with that new black market uh... funding mechanism and that's simply uh... what happened

00:11:12.000 You're going, what does this have to do with media controlled by government? 0.62

00:11:14.000 Well, Reefer Madness and a string of other films were produced, westerns, you name it, where it would show the cowboy who was a nice man take one hit off a marijuana cigarette and go, now let's murder people and just start murdering. 0.92

00:11:32.000 Or Reefer Madness, you take one hit off of it, you're suddenly having sex orgies and murdering people and slaughtering and going to prison and just doing heart, running people down in the road, becoming a crazed, psychopathic demon, like you were on PCP or something. 0.95

00:11:50.000 And it was paid for by the government. 0.93

00:11:52.000 And the films mirrored the several string of films that were made, you know, based in the time, based in the mid-thirties.

00:12:00.000 Like, Reefer Madness, they even, you know, the film starts with the crusader from the federal government who's a professor, and he travels around all the PTAs in the country, and there's a menace of drugs, ladies and gentlemen, and only you, the local groups, can get involved to stop it, make it illegal in your state, help the federal government, you know, Cattle on everyone!

00:12:24.000 Well, in the film they have this character, who then after the film came out, was a real character they gave the public.

00:12:32.000 So, what we see is, after 9-11 they come out and say, torture is good!

00:12:36.000 And the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, torture, torture!

00:12:41.000 Let's get cattle prods out! 1.00

00:12:43.000 Let's torture people! 1.00

00:12:44.000 Let's kill them! 1.00

00:12:45.000 Let's put them in camps! 1.00

00:12:47.000 And I go, wait a minute, law enforcement magazines years before 9-11 have these exact type of basic moral games they were playing where, well, one of the terrorists has got a bomb.

00:12:59.000 And he's going to blow people up and you've tortured him and he won't answer.

00:13:03.000 What about torturing his child? 0.84

00:13:05.000 Well, our expert thinks it's good.

00:13:08.000 Or what if they're about to release anthrax and they won't tell you where it's at?

00:13:11.000 We've got to torture them.

00:13:12.000 You know, all these examples where they get you to play these little mental mind games with yourself and go, well, I guess I would torture them. 0.73

00:13:19.000 As if you're ever going to need to torture somebody in that type of That type of situation.

00:13:25.000 No, it just legitimizes torture across the board to where now, every day or two, they've got somebody chained down on a hospital bed, totally restrained, who refuses to give them a urine sample, so they taser them.

00:13:38.000 Or a young man is choking on a hamburger, the police taser him 16 times just for fun.

00:13:45.000 Or police break people's arms in the real world.

00:13:48.000 It doesn't matter, they have shows, you've heard clips of it, like Boston Legal.

00:13:53.000 Well, they broke the innocent man's arm, and it turns out he was innocent, but they meant well.

00:13:57.000 They went ahead and broke it for a good cause.

00:13:59.000 So the jury goes, well, Alberto Gonzalez says it's okay, and Alan Dershowitz says it's okay.

00:14:08.000 I mean, on TV, they're actually talking about real characters.

00:14:11.000 In the real world.

00:14:12.000 And so, this is good!

00:14:13.000 And they actually sell the program.

00:14:15.000 Torture is as American as apple pie.

00:14:18.000 We love torture.

00:14:19.000 Torture is good.

00:14:20.000 Remember that clip we played several times about a month ago?

00:14:23.000 Torture is good.

00:14:25.000 It's good!

00:14:26.000 It's good!

00:14:29.000 Alright?

00:14:30.000 So this is going on.

00:14:32.000 So first they come out in mainstream media and say torture is good.

00:14:35.000 Then suddenly every cop show, every drama, from The Shield, to Boston Legal, to the final episodes of NYPD Blue, The Threat Matrix, to 24, to CSI, CSI Miami, and to the show Spooks, and MI6, and I mean, I hardly ever watch television.

00:14:54.000 Every time I turn it on, a channel starts torturing somebody.

00:14:57.000 I mean, I'm not kidding!

00:14:58.000 Every time I'm in a restaurant, they've got a TV on.

00:15:01.000 I must have bad luck.

00:15:03.000 Are you seeing this, too?

00:15:04.000 I see torture on the screen.

00:15:06.000 I walk into the TV station, they've got TVs on.

00:15:09.000 And they're torturing somebody in a torture chair.

00:15:12.000 And it's good!

00:15:12.000 It's just everywhere!

00:15:13.000 Torture, torture, torture, torture, torture, torture, torture, torture!

00:15:18.000 And it's always the same.

00:15:19.000 I don't want to do this.

00:15:20.000 You're making me do this.

00:15:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:15:22.000 You know, it's always the good-looking CIA officer.

00:15:24.000 The good-looking young lady. 0.98

00:15:26.000 And she kind of gets sad as she has to kill him. 0.99

00:15:28.000 Alright, I'm going to full power. 0.93

00:15:29.000 And the person's always, ah, go ahead and try it.

00:15:32.000 You know, they deserve it. 0.97

00:15:33.000 They're like these inhuman creatures. 1.00

00:15:35.000 And they're in a torture chair with lesions all over their body. 0.91

00:15:37.000 And she goes, okay.

00:15:40.000 Oh, he died.

00:15:41.000 Doesn't matter.

00:15:42.000 He gave us little clues under torture.

00:15:44.000 And we stopped the nuclear bomb from going off.

00:15:49.000 And then, you know, 24, oh, we've got to torture the Secretary of State or the Attorney General's son.

00:15:56.000 And the Attorney General gives the order to torture his son.

00:15:59.000 And his son was innocent, but still, they needed to do it.

00:16:03.000 And he says, well, I love my son, but I love my country more.

00:16:06.000 Oh, you torture your own child!

00:16:10.000 And then, in the real world, Cops are tasering innocent people to get answers out of them while they're chained down in jails.

00:16:16.000 Another case of it yesterday.

00:16:18.000 Uh, to get answers.

00:16:19.000 Oh, I'm gonna torture you, all of the cops on camera.

00:16:21.000 They just think it's normal.

00:16:23.000 It's almost normalized now.

00:16:27.000 And then, um, we see the case a couple weeks ago.

00:16:32.000 Student, high school, no criminal record, never been in trouble.

00:16:34.000 He's in a English class.

00:16:36.000 They say write a fiction article.

00:16:38.000 He writes about a fictitious high school, not his.

00:16:40.000 No names of anybody real.

00:16:42.000 Zombies bust out of graves, attack the school.

00:16:46.000 And he shows his grandparents and they, oh, I think this is a good paper for school.

00:16:52.000 And they go in and call the police and they show up and go, good job, the grandparents.

00:16:57.000 They go, we're sorry, Billy.

00:16:59.000 And Billy gets taken away, going, it's an article, I, I, what, what?

00:17:02.000 And they just go, uh-huh.

00:17:04.000 We had to do this.

00:17:05.000 And they charge him with terrorism.

00:17:08.000 And the cops are in the newspaper going, well, it is a fictitious school, but with zombies, but, you know, threatening a school with zombies, they actually said is a horrific threat.

00:17:17.000 And it doesn't matter if it's fiction.

00:17:19.000 Look out, Stephen King.

00:17:21.000 Look out, Clyde Barker.

00:17:24.000 And folks, since I talked about this, so many people have emailed us and written us, oh, I wrote stories in school about zombies.

00:17:29.000 It seems to be a popular genre.

00:17:31.000 There's been 20 films made of zombies attacking.

00:17:34.000 I mean, I wrote an article in 7th grade about zombies.

00:17:39.000 And I got an A+.

00:17:41.000 Maybe I'll be arrested retroactively decades and decades later.

00:17:45.000 But this is what's going on, folks.

00:17:50.000 And the government is paying for it, so when we get back, White House defends video news releases and they say, we don't care if the experts in the Congress and the law experts at the universities say that these are felonies, because we're above the law.

00:18:06.000 We are the executive.

00:18:07.000 No, you execute the law, you do not make the law.

00:18:12.000 And then I've got this huge article out of USA Today, where they laud, they go, it's wonderful!

00:18:21.000 Every episode is torture.

00:18:23.000 And it's so good, and see now there's a culture war over this.

00:18:28.000 All these neocons are writing about how good it is.

00:18:32.000 And Embassy International, that always whitewashes the real level of torture and evil.

00:18:36.000 Oh, we think it's good.

00:18:39.000 Oh, it's really good.

00:18:41.000 It's not bad.

00:18:44.000 Fictional 24 brings real issues of torture home, TV heroes tactics debated in a world after Abu Ghraib, and the post 9-11 world torture has hit the public radar.

00:18:55.000 News reports about Abu Ghraib, congressional questioning of cabinet nominees, and increasingly as a featured interrogation tactic on Fox's serial thriller 24.

00:19:06.000 As politicians pundents in the public debate, extreme interrogation.

00:19:10.000 See, now they just changed the term.

00:19:11.000 It's not torture, it's not even abuse now, it's extreme interrogation.

00:19:16.000 24, which is enjoying a surge in critical praise and a 32% jump in viewers this season, has jumped to action.

00:19:24.000 The Florida terrorist plot hero Jack Bauer, Keeper Sutherland, they've been torturing for four seasons on there, this isn't new.

00:19:31.000 The Florida terrorist plot hero Jack Bauer, Keeper Sutherland, And his counter-terrorist unit have shot a suspect in the leg while interrogating him, subjected the son of the Defense Secretary to high-tech sensory deprivation, stun-gunned a suspect but innocent colleague, and used a lamp cord to shock information from a businessman.

00:19:51.000 And then they go on to say, this is good!

00:19:55.000 This is America!

00:19:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:13.000 The globalists, brain scientists, that's what the Nazis called it, brain war, mind war, know the power of archetypal images and heroes, idols.

00:24:26.000 And so, if you thought it was bad enough to have, you know, just 60, 70 years ago, the heroes were scientists and explorers and people that, you know, climbed to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro, or folks who invented scuba gear, people that expanded our frontiers, academics, mathematicians, Scientists?

00:24:51.000 If you thought it was bad to have the heroes turned into basketball and baseball players, and if you thought it was bad to have the heroes, you know, uh, turned into Hollywood stars, oh no!

00:25:03.000 Now the new heroes, and they admit that in these New York Times and USA Today articles, the new heroes are torture men, torture technique experts, uh, in the torture chambers.

00:25:13.000 Every night, every episode, they torture.

00:25:16.000 They kill. 0.85

00:25:17.000 They murder. 0.99

00:25:18.000 And it's good.

00:25:20.000 The heroes are the torture experts.

00:25:23.000 Why, O'Brien from 1984, in 2005, who tortured people brutally, unto the edge of death, who broke their minds, he'd be a hero!

00:25:34.000 He'd walk into 2005, into the real world, and he'd be on national TV!

00:25:41.000 He'd be made Attorney General!

00:25:43.000 He'd say the President, big brother, was above the law!

00:25:47.000 Think about that!

00:25:49.000 And this article in USA Today continues talking about how they torture people.

00:25:54.000 For 24's producers in their fourth season of constructing a save the world scenario that must be completed in one day, selling you the government saving you every day of course, the use of torture is about real-time drama, not politics.

00:26:10.000 Sure, just admitted that you're advised by Homeland Security.

00:26:13.000 It goes with the 24 Concept that we need information and don't have days to break this person.

00:26:20.000 Sometimes we don't even have hours.

00:26:21.000 Executive producer Howard Gordon says, 24's writers aren't taking a political stand.

00:26:27.000 Oh, sure they're not.

00:26:28.000 But they know that the real world debate, with its pros and cons, is the public consciousness, Gordon says.

00:26:34.000 The substance of an upcoming episode will hinge on whether the president allows a suspect's torture, he says.

00:26:41.000 You know how that's going to end.

00:26:45.000 Every episode.

00:26:47.000 Outsiders have drawn connections between the real world and the fictional 24. 0.86

00:26:51.000 The Council on American-Islamic Relations criticized the depiction of Muslim terrorists.

00:26:55.000 A New York Times column compared 24's focus on domestic terror threats to the Bush administration's focus on Iraq.

00:27:01.000 And Karen Greenberg, co-editor of the torture papers, The Road to Abu Ghraib, mentioned the series in a Baltimore Sun column about U.S.

00:27:09.000 torture policy.

00:27:10.000 We've been talking about it for three years.

00:27:12.000 Alistair Hoggett of Amnesty International, credits 24 and A&E's MI5, which allows the British Secret Service with realistic depictions that provide a clear idea of what torture involves.

00:27:24.000 They do more than educate, they desensitize.

00:27:30.000 And Gordon says 24 taps in the public sphere based wish fulfillment of having protectors such as Bauer who will do whatever is necessary to save society from harm.

00:27:41.000 But it shows a dark side too.

00:27:43.000 Jack Bauer is a tragic character.

00:27:45.000 He doesn't get away with it clean.

00:27:46.000 He's got blood on his hands, Gordon says.

00:27:49.000 In some ways, he's a necessary evil.

00:27:54.000 Oh boy.

00:27:55.000 And for years we've caught them funding these different shows.

00:27:59.000 Both the real life cop shows and the dramas and the sitcoms.

00:28:04.000 I mean, I've been sent tapes where you're watching Friends and they go, it's the new world order.

00:28:08.000 Get used to it.

00:28:09.000 Just out of the blue.

00:28:11.000 You've all seen it.

00:28:12.000 You call in almost daily talking about what you've watched on television.

00:28:15.000 New World Order this, World Government that.

00:28:17.000 Judging Amy almost every episode it's some crazy mother who thinks there's a world government. 1.00

00:28:22.000 So CPS takes her child because she's some type of psychopath because you believe in a world government. 0.99

00:28:29.000 I mean, it's just over and over and over.

00:28:31.000 It's everywhere!

00:28:33.000 And then in the real world, FEMA is having drills, if counties want money, where the school districts do a drill, where the homeschoolers attack and murder everyone in the school bus, and they get 200 of the elementary students out and put fake blood on them, and fake intestines hanging out.

00:28:48.000 By the way, I've been to these drills.

00:28:49.000 It's in Road to Tyranny.

00:28:51.000 Right here in Central Texas.

00:28:53.000 And they tell them, the evil right-wingers have attacked you.

00:28:56.000 And they brainwash hundreds of kids per episode, in real life, with cops running around in masks, playing the part of the citizens against public school.

00:29:08.000 And they murder you!

00:29:10.000 Of course, it isn't real, but they're simulating it everywhere.

00:29:14.000 And then they simulate it on TV, and they... And imagine being an eight-year-old child, and this is the field trip as they get you out in the parking lot of the school, and splatter blood, fake blood on you, and then they have fake arms blown off, and fake intestines hanging out, and the homeschoolers, they're gonna get ya!

00:29:33.000 They're gonna get ya!

00:29:36.000 That is trauma-based mind control!

00:29:38.000 That is incredible abuse!

00:29:41.000 Did you just send your children to school to have it done to them?

00:29:44.000 After all, it's the government, and now they're gonna have their forced psychological testing and drugging with new freedom!

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:22.000 I know we already have a lot of phone calls on the line.

00:33:24.000 I haven't given the number out yet, but we will go to your calls before this hour ends.

00:33:28.000 Then we'll have open phones 30 minutes into the next hour.

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00:33:39.000 He was a New York detective and even was on the governor's board investigating the government-run white slavery rings.

00:33:47.000 And we had Senator DeCamp on, along with Tom Flacco on Monday.

00:33:51.000 Exposing this nightmare and that's coming up in the next hour.

00:33:55.000 So with myself and Paul Watson and Jim Rothstein this should be very very illuminating, very revealing.

00:34:04.000 We'll go to John and Robert and Ed and others that are holding as well again before this hour ends.

00:34:09.000 I got a bunch of news I want to cover with Paul and I know he's got a lot of news he wants to cover.

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00:38:53.000 I mean, have we gotten any negative reviews, Paul?

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00:39:04.000 The fact is that the film's already, what, approaching two and a quarter, two hours, twenty minutes long anyway, so it's just amazing how much you actually got in there in that time.

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00:39:16.000 Yeah, so I mean there's a lot you could have put in there but a lot of that is in the previous films and it's the latest up-to-date information on the vital issues which are 9-11 and the police state as was very graphically seen in New York City during the convention so basically no bad reviews we've got something approaching a hundred on the martial law page so you know you don't have to believe us go and see what other people have said about the film

00:39:46.000 You can also, we've not just posted the trailer and some other select clips, we're putting other longer clips of the film up for free.

00:39:54.000 Yeah, yesterday we put up the Nazi ties to the Bush family, which included an interview with John Buchanan, who was instrumental in getting mainstream newspapers

00:40:07.000 Like the London Guardian in September of last year to cover the facts which are now being released, and he directed them to the actual documents out of the official government archives to prove those links, and we've put up a ten minute segment on that, and more of those will follow in the coming days and weeks.

00:40:25.000 Our goal is to get the word out and warn people, so PrisonPlanet.tv, alright, I want to go to some calls, but Paul, You probably heard him before he came on.

00:40:36.000 I'm ranting and raving about USA Today and New York Times and all these big publications lauding these torture shows where every episode they torture children, they torture women, they torture people to death.

00:40:50.000 I mean, they're really trying to warp our minds and on the heels of that, White House Defense Video News releases now over $200 million worth of fake newscasts.

00:40:59.000 I don't think folks realize just how serious this has gotten.

00:41:02.000 Your take on that?

00:41:03.000 Well, no, people don't realise how closely intertwined Hollywood and the government are.

00:41:08.000 I mean, we had that article just a week ago about how Homeland Security basically intimately tied with Hollywood on agreeing to certain plots, suggesting certain plots in new movies and series.

00:41:22.000 And it does cross over into real life.

00:41:24.000 I mean, the British foreign ambassador, Jack Straw, recently came out and said that MI5 and MI6 would continue to take testimony gained under torture.

00:41:35.000 And Jack Straw is the same guy that assured the people in Uzbekistan, whose president likes to boil people alive, that he lost sleep over the fact that MI6 used evidence obtained from their torture 0.78

00:41:50.000 Well, it's like, Paul, they send people to prison who follow their orders to torture, and of course enjoyed it too, but that's, we have the Pentagon's own documents, it was all ordered, and then the memos come out, and they get Alberto Gonzalez up in front of the Senate, and he goes, yeah, we ordered it, we can torture people up until the point they die, and if we didn't mean to kill them, it's okay, the President's above the law, so, I mean, it's all certified in plain view!

00:42:17.000 Yeah, and the guy who blew the whistle on it in Britain with the torture jets flying out to Uzbekistan, which has a 100% conviction rate from people they arrest because it's the total police state, he pointed out the torture and the resolution, the solution to that torture from the British government was to sack the ambassador who blew the whistle on it.

00:42:40.000 So that's the kind of attitude they've got towards it.

00:42:43.000 Because the, um, Uzbekis want to promote the idea that Al-Qaeda has cells in Uzbekistan so they can then support the war on terror in the West and getting rid of them. 0.95

00:42:53.000 So they've got their own agenda.

00:42:55.000 Meanwhile, MI6 CIA continues to use the testimony from these tortured people to prop up that very illusion that Al-Qaeda... They're also flying American citizens to a bunch of different countries.

00:43:08.000 Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt.

00:43:11.000 And I mean, that came out in the Washington Post in 2001, after 9-11, they bragged, oh yeah, we're taking them to third-party countries, and we're torturing their children in front of them.

00:43:20.000 So they've been bragging about this for a while.

00:43:23.000 Well, I mean, it's public.

00:43:24.000 I mean, I know people down in London who see, almost on a daily basis, the white Gulfstream jet taking off to take prisoners to places like Uzbekistan and Egypt to be tortured.

00:43:36.000 And it's been labeled the torture jet, so they don't even try and hide this kind of stuff.

00:43:41.000 And then it goes back into the drama series, like 24, as the article in USA Today pointed out, where the heroes now torture.

00:43:49.000 We've got the exact same show in Britain, which revolves around MI5, MI6, where they torture people's children to gain information.

00:43:57.000 Now I wonder what happens next time they catch a serial killer who's torturing children.

00:44:02.000 Will the serial killer come into court and go, what I'm doing is moral and good?

00:44:05.000 I mean, your government does it.

00:44:08.000 Well, I mean, Rush Limbaugh said they were just blowing off steam.

00:44:10.000 So, I mean, that could now become the defense for serial killers and, you know, people who torture children.

00:44:16.000 So, I mean, if the government's doing it and they're the moral authority, then why shouldn't serial killers take the same stance?

00:44:23.000 And again, a lot of people go, well, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, folks.

00:44:26.000 It's Al-C-I-A-D. 1.00

00:44:27.000 It's all staged.

00:44:28.000 The people being taken out of the country are totally innocent.

00:44:31.000 Well, the torture provides them with the basis for claiming that Al-Qaeda exists, because the people who are tortured will confess to anything, so they'll confess to being members of Al-Qaeda.

00:44:41.000 Well, it's like these people with blood coming out of their mouths, black eyes, every night on TV, run by our government in Iraq, you know, and it's called, you know, terrorists in the hands of justice. 0.63

00:44:51.000 That allowees put out, and this is on TV every night in Iraq, dozens of people, over 15 and I, confessing, and they're literally there and they'll forget their lines and like cower in front of the troops in their masks, men in masks, with bloody people going, I'm a terrorist, I stole food!

00:45:08.000 Everything is terrorism now!

00:45:11.000 And these people who feature on the TV shows in Iraq are there in the first place because I mean, Paul, this is so nightmarish, what they're setting up. 1.00

00:45:20.000 I mean, this is all off the charts.

00:45:22.000 behavior so that's how those people get there in the first place i mean paul this is so nightmarish what they're setting up i mean this is all off the charts i mean not only do these tv shows quote torture the terrorist and then you know the the torture is always right or even if he's wrong he's still rewarded Well, you tortured that man to death, but he was innocent.

00:45:42.000 But still, you fought for the country.

00:45:43.000 We're promoting you.

00:45:45.000 But now it's these torturing children?

00:45:50.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:45:51.000 In most cases in these drama shows, the people that they torture turn out to be innocent.

00:45:56.000 So that's another signal they're sending, that the people are always innocent in 90% of the cases anyway.

00:46:01.000 But the person that does it is rewarded and is good!

00:46:05.000 And the person who's tortured will thank them.

00:46:07.000 Thank you for torturing me to protect the country.

00:46:10.000 Oh, that's alright.

00:46:10.000 Let's go out to dinner.

00:46:11.000 Good job.

00:46:12.000 And it plays into the national obsession for heroes to protect us from the latest boogeyman, like Schwarzenegger was the hero throughout the 80s.

00:46:21.000 Now it's people like, you know, Kiefer Sutherland in 24.

00:46:25.000 He's the hero, he's going to protect us and he has to torture to do it.

00:46:28.000 It's a dirty world, so it has to be done.

00:46:31.000 And it feeds that hero obsession.

00:46:33.000 Fixation that people have from watching these drama series and movies.

00:46:37.000 And then we see police.

00:46:39.000 Then we see police in the real world.

00:46:41.000 Oh, you're chained down to the bed.

00:46:42.000 You won't give us a urine sample.

00:46:43.000 I'm going to start tasering you. 1.00

00:46:45.000 They think it's normal.

00:46:48.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the police watch these shows as well.

00:46:51.000 I mean, all the police shows, which aren't, you know, focused around The CIA or the black ops of the American intelligence like 24.

00:46:59.000 Even in the police shows like I believe it's NYPD Blue, others of a similar vein.

00:47:07.000 The police torture in those as well to get information.

00:47:11.000 Same case in Britain with the police shows over here.

00:47:13.000 So then the police watch that and think that now that's their new role.

00:47:18.000 They're allowed to torture, to extract whatever information they want to prevent a crime, because crime is now terrorism, as we've been told many times.

00:47:26.000 They're too foggily intertwined.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, on that one Threat Matrix show a few years ago, a year and a half ago when it first came out, I was sent the episode, and the guy is a drug dealer.

00:47:39.000 And they explained to him, we're taking your children, we're going to torture you, we're going to put you in prison for the rest of your life.

00:47:44.000 And he goes, but I'm on a terrorist. 0.88

00:47:45.000 They go, yes, drugs are terror.

00:47:47.000 And now, Rubik's Cube sales are terror.

00:47:50.000 Now, complaining too much is terror.

00:47:52.000 And Homeland Security told the Quad City Times, well, he didn't threaten anybody, but he complained too much.

00:47:59.000 See, they're letting you know.

00:48:01.000 The rock star with the shirt with a gun on it.

00:48:05.000 They go, you can't fly.

00:48:06.000 In fact, we might arrest you.

00:48:08.000 You know, the fellow with the sign in the front of his... didn't even have a sign in front of his window.

00:48:12.000 They called and said, we want to let you know, when the President drives by, no signs allowed.

00:48:17.000 He goes, you know what, I think I'll put a sign up.

00:48:19.000 I mean, everything is terrorism now, Paul.

00:48:23.000 Well, yeah, and you go back to the Matrix program, which labeled 400,000 American citizens as potential terrorists.

00:48:32.000 Things like that, which were created by a cocaine smuggler who was charged back in the 80s with smuggling drugs.

00:48:39.000 That's the genesis of it, and it flags up 400,000 American citizens as terrorists.

00:48:45.000 Meanwhile, this secret FBI report says there are no Al-Qaeda cells in America.

00:48:49.000 So, I mean, what is the foundation?

00:48:51.000 What is the basis of terrorism?

00:48:53.000 And it's what you mentioned, it's petitioning the government It's having any kind of attitude which, in the future, in the world of pre-crime, may become terrorism because you threaten the establishment.

00:49:04.000 So the broad definition of it means that we're all terrorists in the end, if we're active.

00:49:08.000 But meanwhile, Bush comes out and says, I don't care if Congress funded thousands of Border Patrol, I'm taking that money for something else.

00:49:15.000 We're not going to hire them. 0.92

00:49:18.000 Well, no, it's amazing that at the same time people like Condoleezza Rice And others say that these terrorists are being smuggled and smuggling weapons through the southern border, that they're doing absolutely nothing to secure the southern border.

00:49:30.000 Yeah, Reuters two days ago, secret government report, Time Magazine, Al-Qaeda has come across the southern border, more are coming, and they're soon going to kill kids at schools.

00:49:41.000 When it happens, and the real government ops slip out the back door and they blow some Arab's head off and leave him on the ground dead after he shoots 50 kids, after they say he did, there'll be no discussion about why was the border open.

00:49:52.000 There'll be no discussion.

00:49:54.000 It doesn't matter.

00:49:57.000 And, I mean, that seems to be what they would move into under that pretext because the major big events like 9-11 Always have a thousand holes in them, which people can pick apart.

00:50:08.000 If you pick soft targets like schools and theaters, then it's harder to pick apart the evidence of what happened.

00:50:15.000 Well, the Russians have done a great job.

00:50:16.000 I mean, the theater attack, the Beesland attack, which is now clearly, it was the government, folks.

00:50:24.000 It's simple.

00:50:24.000 You have the forces around the building, the troops inside start shooting people, they then run out the back door, then the troops shoot the innocent people.

00:50:31.000 It's like a Columbine, and then, oh, we caught a terrorist.

00:50:35.000 And they learned to use the soft targets after the apartment building was back in the late 90s, which they got away with, which went directly back to the government F.S.B.

00:50:45.000 So, I mean, that seems to be what they're telling us.

00:50:46.000 Soft targets are the future of terrorism, and it's all going to be government-sponsored.

00:50:51.000 And also Gladio!

00:50:52.000 Let's talk about Gladio when we get back.

00:50:55.000 They're talking about metal detectors in all the malls.

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00:53:55.000 On the through Friday from 11 to 2 central, back from 9 to midnight, back from 9 to midnight, I'm Alex Jones, your host...

00:54:15.000 Paul Watson's riding shotgun with us.

00:54:17.000 Got a big guest coming up in the next hour.

00:54:20.000 Paul, stay with us.

00:54:21.000 Of course, your calls.

00:54:22.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:54:24.000 You know, me and Paul sit here and are almost jousting, just going back and forth with how bad this is.

00:54:32.000 And believe me, I don't have words to, like, integrate all the information into one big statement so you can see all the pieces of this.

00:54:39.000 But we told you after 9-11, they're going to hit soft targets.

00:54:44.000 They're going to train you about total police state in key cities, national security events, total police state in the airports, and then it's going to be the bus stops, the highways, the schools, everywhere.

00:54:57.000 It's all turning into a lockdown, the bridges.

00:55:01.000 And this is what they're doing.

00:55:02.000 And we've got the FBI reports.

00:55:03.000 They're going to have metal detectors and searches when you go into any of the shopping malls.

00:55:09.000 This is going to be the new world.

00:55:10.000 Everywhere.

00:55:11.000 Worse than... Russia was never this bad.

00:55:14.000 Nazi Germany, maybe.

00:55:16.000 And here's the deal, folks.

00:55:18.000 Of course, if it was real Al-Qaeda, if they really existed outside of the CIA, Al-Qaeda, As if, you know, men with machine guns, as if a security guard searching you at the entrance to the mall, as if they wouldn't just gun the security guard down.

00:55:32.000 None of it has anything to do with security.

00:55:35.000 Troops and checkpoints everywhere is about oppressing you and setting up a system for mass arrest and control, Paul.

00:55:43.000 Well, that's the case.

00:55:44.000 And the point with soft targets is that, you know, 95% of Americans don't go anywhere near, and never will never have, large buildings in major cities, like the World Trade Center.

00:55:58.000 But if you attack soft targets, like train stations, schools, which are part of people's everyday lives, then the threat is brought to their front doorstep, which is why it's so much more effective.

00:56:08.000 Which is what Gladio was about, as you mentioned before the break, where one of the agents of it, Vincenzo Vincaguera...

00:56:18.000 He said, quote, you had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people, far removed from any political game.

00:56:25.000 The reason was quite simple.

00:56:27.000 To force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.

00:56:31.000 Now, for those who don't know, I want to later in the show, after this guest is on with us, get into this, because this is official.

00:56:36.000 This is admitted.

00:56:37.000 This is declassified.

00:56:39.000 The U.S.

00:56:39.000 government For a decade, bombed and murdered men, women, and children in Europe, predominantly in Italy, to get a police state shut up there.

00:56:49.000 A poll?

00:56:50.000 Yeah, it was all over Europe.

00:56:52.000 It was Italy, France, West Germany, Greece.

00:56:56.000 And it was called the Strategy of Tension, fermenting fear to keep the populations in awe of strongmen who vowed to protect them from the terrorists.

00:57:06.000 And read what the man who later became the head of their security services, and of course their president, former president has said this too, but read what he said about it again.

00:57:17.000 He said, you had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people, far removed from any political game.

00:57:23.000 The reason was quite simple, to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.

00:57:31.000 Then there's the Pentagon document, Field Manual FM 3031B, which states, U.S.

00:57:37.000 Army intelligence must have the means of launching special operations which will convince host country governments and public opinion of the reality of the insurgent danger.

00:57:47.000 So again, that smacks of Operation Northwoods.

00:57:51.000 It's got similar rhetoric and it has the same purpose.

00:57:55.000 And again, so it's not like we're on the air saying elements of the government are behind this.

00:57:59.000 Over and over again, we have their documents.

00:58:02.000 They do not debate their authenticity.

00:58:05.000 I mean, who stands to gain from 9-11, folks?

00:58:05.000 It's admitted.

00:58:10.000 Did you think the Arabs would really do that and bring down the wrath of the biggest military on the face of the globe? 0.99

00:58:15.000 Paul, folks better wake up out there and realize this is not even a radical broadcast. 1.00

00:58:23.000 What we've got with mainstream media is just radical, dumbed-down garbage. 0.91

00:58:28.000 Well, I mean, when this kind of thing is on the National Security Archive website, how radical is it? 0.98

00:58:36.000 We just want to save these women and children, folks.

00:58:39.000 I mean, really, it makes me... I get sick at my stomach thinking about these killers.

00:58:42.000 They're out there, they're getting more power, the events are getting bigger, and then we have to watch them pose as our saviors after they do it, second hour coming up.

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00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Alright, it's the second hour, 16th day of March, Hope 5.

00:59:18.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:59:21.000 Riding shotgun with us for the broadcast today is Paul Joseph Watson, the webmaster for PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv, two of my great websites.

00:59:30.000 And we've got Jim Rothstein, who is a New York detective at the highest levels of state government investigating the government-run white slavery rings, but every time he was about to bust a high-level people, he was told to stop it.

00:59:44.000 That's coming up.

00:59:45.000 Right now, Paul, let's go ahead and get to some of these calls that have been holding for eons.

00:59:49.000 John in Alaska, then Robert in Colorado.

00:59:52.000 John, go ahead.

00:59:53.000 Hello, Alex.

00:59:54.000 Hello.

00:59:54.000 Hello, Paul.

00:59:55.000 Hello.

00:59:57.000 I have a comment and then a question.

00:59:58.000 I find it interesting that I was in the shower this morning listening to a presidential press conference on UPN Network News, and the president was explaining why Iran now needs to develop democracy.

01:00:14.000 What he wasn't saying was he was trying to develop a pretext to go invade Iran now.

01:00:20.000 And he says, oh, by the way, we're a country that doesn't believe in torture.

01:00:26.000 He just made that little bit of a slur right there.

01:00:29.000 Oh, by the way, we don't believe in torturing our people.

01:00:34.000 Saying that Iran does it, well saying Saddam did it when our government trained him and helped him do it and helped build the camps, and then our troops moved back into the camps that our government helped build. 0.95

01:00:44.000 Yeah, and our lovely President, Xavier Bush, according to UPN Network News, reportedly said this in a press conference this morning, that he held.

01:00:58.000 He just flippantly added that.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, he did.

01:01:02.000 You did.

01:01:03.000 I heard it come out of his own mouth.

01:01:06.000 I have a question to add to all this.

01:01:10.000 A friend of mine and I were talking and we were going over all the Russian Limbogs and we were going over your show and all the other shows that we listen to and government scandals and all this.

01:01:25.000 Uh, he said, well, why don't we just start a civil war?

01:01:29.000 And, you know, it's not happening peacefully, so we might as well bear arms and all that.

01:01:32.000 Well, what would you say to the average listener out there that's getting on on this, so that we won't get that one nutball out there that goes and shoots a cop? 0.50

01:01:41.000 I'm not for violence offensively.

01:01:43.000 Uh, look, we have a right to defend ourselves, but the globalists have to create violence and then blame it on patriots.

01:01:50.000 The last thing we want is to play into what they're doing.

01:01:54.000 Now, if the government starts trying to do mass arrests and really tries to turn the heat up, you've got to defend yourself.

01:02:00.000 I just wanted to hear it from you.

01:02:00.000 Right, right.

01:02:02.000 Sure.

01:02:02.000 Paul, you want to comment on that?

01:02:04.000 Well, yeah, it's more of a waiting game.

01:02:06.000 I mean, Gandhi kicked the British out of India by playing the waiting game. 0.97

01:02:10.000 You know, he said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

01:02:15.000 Which reminds me of what Popular Mechanics did, as we had an article about that the other day.

01:02:19.000 So, it's a waiting game.

01:02:21.000 Say that again, because it's true.

01:02:24.000 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

01:02:29.000 You make them get desperate, and that's how you win.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, every time they crack our skulls, every time they do mean stuff, they just look worse and worse.

01:02:36.000 We're winning, by the way.

01:02:38.000 I'm here to tell you, John, we are winning.

01:02:40.000 Well, why can't we do things like boycott CSI and all these other shows and television? 0.70

01:02:46.000 Hey, I totally agree.

01:02:47.000 Listen, boycott television predominantly.

01:02:50.000 I don't watch television.

01:02:51.000 The TV should be locked up.

01:02:54.000 and roll it out occasionally.

01:02:56.000 There's nothing wrong with watching an occasional football game, but it should be a special treat, and you shouldn't just watch it four hours a night.

01:03:04.000 I think it's interesting when you've got kids that are raised on MTV and over half of the marriages end in divorce, that kind of thing, and no wonder.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, people are supposed to be interfacing, talking, going on walks, working in the garden, fixing the house, cleaning out the closet.

01:03:24.000 We're not fulfilled sitting there watching television.

01:03:27.000 We're supposed to be fishing, and playing golf, and going to the little league game, not sucking our thumbs watching television.

01:03:33.000 Or what about the violence in the Nintendo games?

01:03:36.000 I hear you.

01:03:37.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:38.000 We'll be back.

01:03:39.000 We've got a guest coming up and your calls as well.

01:03:41.000 It's going to be a jam-packed broadcast.

01:03:45.000 We've got an hour and 55 minutes left, so stay with us.

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01:07:20.000 That's why they tell us that, oh, good peace officers wear black helmets and black masks and drive big black armored vehicles and we build lots of prisons with barbed wire all over them for you because we want to keep you safe.

01:07:35.000 Last hour we talked about USA Today and the New York Times lauding the show 24 on Fox, just one of scores that promote torture and where on these shows they torture children and people torture their children.

01:07:50.000 And torturing the people, even in some cases to death, is good. 1.00

01:07:53.000 They have shows in England, like Spooks, that we've covered here and played clips of, where they torture an eight-year-old girl to make the father answer questions.

01:08:01.000 And they're lauded, the agents are, for torturing the children.

01:08:06.000 So to show you how warped the elite is, I mean, just look at what they're promoting through their own programs, and the government in the real world says, yes, we're torturing children.

01:08:16.000 At Abu Ghraib and other places around the world to, quote, make suspected terrorists talk.

01:08:22.000 And then when you see the images of torture, they slap on the wrist their minions that follow the orders, we get the White House orders, and Gonzalez gets up and never apologizes and says, yeah, we're above the law.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, we can torture somebody until the point they die, and if we didn't mean to kill them, it's not torture.

01:08:39.000 Torturing people to death is okay. 0.88

01:08:41.000 That's the memo.

01:08:43.000 That's what's happening, but notice they don't go to jail.

01:08:46.000 No, they just expand on it, promote it, and push it.

01:08:51.000 And if you feel safe with a Joseph Mingle style government that will torture you, you've got a very serious problem, folks.

01:08:57.000 This will not keep you safe from Al-Cieda. 1.00

01:09:01.000 So I wanted to bring that back up again.

01:09:03.000 We have Paul Watson, our contributor, webmaster for PrisonPlanet.com, riding shotgun with us.

01:09:08.000 And we've got Jim Rothstein, It was a highly decorated New York detective, was on the governor's board investigating all this horrible stuff that I don't like talking about but has to be discussed.

01:09:24.000 We're talking about kidnapping of children, pedophilia, government run white slavery rings.

01:09:29.000 And the U.N.' 's been caught doing it in every country they're in.

01:09:32.000 I mean, industrialized, 200,000 women and children kidnapped by Dime Corps, put on aircraft, taken out of the country to Malaysia, to Saudi Arabia, to Israel.

01:09:44.000 I mean, this is massive, folks.

01:09:46.000 This is huge!

01:09:48.000 And it's not as big here in the U.S.

01:09:50.000 as it is overseas.

01:09:51.000 Where they have these police states, it's rampant. 0.83

01:09:55.000 And that's why we're fighting this, so these sickos don't think that America is a happy hunting ground for them.

01:10:01.000 We're in deep trouble, folks. 0.97

01:10:02.000 Hell is being released upon the earth.

01:10:04.000 Jim Rothstein, thank you so much for joining us, sir.

01:10:07.000 Thanks for having me.

01:10:09.000 We really see the serial killers that run the country and the government trying to go public and sell us on their mindset right now, Jim.

01:10:17.000 Yes, that's true.

01:10:18.000 You'll see a lot of that.

01:10:21.000 Just for those that just joined us, you can talk about yourself better than I can.

01:10:24.000 Tell us a little bit about Jim Rothstein and how you got involved.

01:10:28.000 Well, I was a detective with the New York City Police Department and before I became a detective, about 68, 69, I was working in a plainclothes assignment and that's when I first got into it when they were bringing the girls in from the Midwest for prostitution.

01:10:48.000 And I started seeing a big movement of that and I started following it and keeping records.

01:10:53.000 And eventually they ended up killing a police officer.

01:10:56.000 And that's how I got brought in because I was the only one who was keeping records on it.

01:11:00.000 And at that time, there were thousands of young ladies from the Midwest brought into New York, Columbus, Ohio, and other places around the United States. 0.93

01:11:10.000 And they would move these kids all over the country.

01:11:14.000 Many of them disappeared.

01:11:16.000 Come on, we never found again.

01:11:18.000 So that was really the start.

01:11:20.000 What was the average age of these underage girls? 0.99

01:11:22.000 Anywhere from 13 to 16, 17.

01:11:26.000 That was usually when they picked them up.

01:11:28.000 In fact, we had a place in Minnesota where they had a home for wayward girls and we actually found that these pimps were going up there and picking the girls up and then putting them into the market. 0.99

01:11:42.000 And eventually, though, we were able, with For once, the FBI is probably the only time I ever saw the FBI do an investigation totally, and we work with the IRS, and we put 11 of the top 12 pimps in prison, and they got various times, but it basically broke this whole problem.

01:12:02.000 But let's face it, they got in trouble because they killed a cop.

01:12:05.000 Well, that was what started it, and that's how I got into it, and eventually, years later, this was in the early seventies and we were finally able to... Well, do me a favor, Detective Robstein.

01:12:16.000 Describe how they killed this officer.

01:12:19.000 This police officer was making an arrest on a prostitute and a pimp came up and stabbed him to death and that's how that came about and that really got everything going and then I got put on a special squad to work this and eventually I got a number of partners to work with me and then we were able to convince the feds To get involved.

01:12:41.000 And it was a dynamite case.

01:12:44.000 For once, it shows that if police authorities do work together, there's nothing they can't stop.

01:12:50.000 Okay, now I heard you on Jack Blood Show last Friday.

01:12:52.000 It was riveting.

01:12:54.000 And I've since done some research and pulled up some news articles, Jim, that you were in.

01:12:58.000 But now, you started really investigating after this, but you found an apartment full of all these children, including boys, and then it led up to some higher-level people.

01:13:07.000 What would happen to you every time you got really to the heart of things?

01:13:11.000 Well, we got stopped, and what was interesting, once we were working on the girls end of this, we got into the little boy network.

01:13:18.000 In this particular case, a guy by the name of Willie Dunn, one of the most notorious pedophile pimps in the country at that time, was in an apartment on West 45th Street.

01:13:29.000 I don't know how many kids were in the apartment anymore, but there were quite a number.

01:13:33.000 And technically, at that time, there was nothing we could do because there were no violations.

01:13:39.000 Most of these kids that were in that apartment, that day, were around 15 years old.

01:13:43.000 And at that point, I was a uniformed police officer, and I turned it over to the detectives.

01:13:48.000 And then the case disappeared.

01:13:50.000 And that was the way it was handled at the time.

01:13:52.000 But years later, I ran into this guy a number of times.

01:13:56.000 And at one point, we actually arrested him, where he had stolen a motorhome and was traveling around the country, kidnapping, buying and selling kids.

01:14:07.000 And every time I put this guy in jail, somehow or other, he'd walk again.

01:14:11.000 We convicted him in Norfolk, Virginia.

01:14:14.000 uh... on a uh... offshoot of this is using stolen credit cards.

01:14:18.000 I'm not calling for torturing somebody like that, but it's too bad he didn't fall down and hit his head.

01:14:23.000 Well, there was a lot of people that thought that at the time that would have been the proper thing to do, but I always had a belief that if you're as bad as they are, you can never... No, you know what?

01:14:31.000 I agree with you.

01:14:32.000 As soon as you turn into them, this is how it happens.

01:14:35.000 I want to bring Paul Watson in, who's riding shotgun with us, and then we'll continue with his story.

01:14:40.000 Paul, do you have any questions for Detective Rothstein?

01:14:43.000 Well, yeah, just a comment basically.

01:14:44.000 We've got the archive on PrisonPlanet.com where this kind of mirrors the track record globally.

01:14:51.000 I mean, cases from France, Portugal, Australia, Bosnia, Chile, Belgium.

01:14:58.000 You have the same case where the involvement of high-level individuals, judges who are even involved in the cases themselves, politicians, heads of corporations, even TV personalities are involved and that's the point when the case gets shut down.

01:15:14.000 They always seem to burn the handler and protect the clients, like Dewtrow in Belgium with that big case of child prostitution.

01:15:25.000 He was burned, but the judges, the politicians that were involved were completely protected.

01:15:29.000 Now that was killing toddlers. 0.95

01:15:31.000 That's a good point to bring up to Jim Rothstein.

01:15:33.000 Detective, in how many of these cases did it deal with really small children?

01:15:38.000 We didn't run into that too much.

01:15:40.000 We did have Uh, information about things like that happening.

01:15:46.000 And in one particular case, after I had retired, I was up in Maine and two local priests came to me where a woman had been approached to sacrifice her, I guess the kid was about three months old.

01:15:59.000 And, uh, they just happened to know that I had retired from the police department and came to me.

01:16:03.000 So we know that this is actually happening in different parts of the country, and has been for many years.

01:16:09.000 This was about 1988 when I was approached by them.

01:16:14.000 Well, it's unbelievable, uh, and of course I'm sure you're familiar with John DeCamp.

01:16:18.000 We got him on Monday.

01:16:19.000 Senator?

01:16:19.000 Yes, I know, I know him well, and he's doing a tremendous job.

01:16:23.000 I hear he's not feeling good right now.

01:16:25.000 Yeah, he just had major surgery.

01:16:26.000 But no, John is, John is, I credit him for the years that he has worked on this, trying to expose it.

01:16:34.000 And John has suffered a great toll by the fine work he has done.

01:16:38.000 You don't work this stuff and not get hassled.

01:16:41.000 This is what's strange.

01:16:42.000 All the years I worked this, at the end, when I was retired from the police department, they tried to buy me, they tried to threaten me, they did everything.

01:16:52.000 And there's other police officers, as myself, who the same thing happens to.

01:16:57.000 And all the shows and stuff I do, I always say, why can't these police officers call in?

01:17:03.000 We can give them the help they need.

01:17:05.000 And I've said this many times that build the mothers, force the husbands to do what they're supposed to. 0.89

01:17:12.000 These children cases will continue going on and on.

01:17:16.000 Only the people can stop this.

01:17:18.000 And they have to put the heat on the government to make them stop it.

01:17:21.000 And as you know, from the shows you've done, That this leads right up to the highest people, not only in our country, state, and everything else.

01:17:28.000 It goes into the international field and it has to be stopped.

01:17:34.000 Now, what are we talking about?

01:17:36.000 A year of really children that are really kidnapped by these people?

01:17:39.000 A couple thousand?

01:17:41.000 Well, again, it goes into different things.

01:17:44.000 If you consider the family abductions that take place, you know where the Husband and wife are fighting it, or the relatives, and they take care of it.

01:17:52.000 There's hundreds of thousands of those.

01:17:54.000 Yeah, and then, what we were, at that time, now you've got to remember this was in the 70s and 80s, early 80s, there were, what we were able to pretty accurately describe, a minimum, there were at least 200 kids a year, up to 500.

01:18:09.000 I don't know where it would be right now, but I'd say it's gone way up there by now, that have fallen into this group, you know, similar as Johnny Goss, Jacob Wetterling, and the list goes on and on.

01:18:21.000 These are kids that end into a network, as John DeCamp had described in his investigation.

01:18:27.000 When we get back, you mentioned orphanages, you mentioned, you know, groups of children that have been taken by protective services and then they end up in these people's hands.

01:18:36.000 That's the MO we've got from a lot of mainstream news articles over the years that are in our files and posted in these sections on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:18:46.000 Jim Rohnstein, stay there.

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01:23:09.000 We're talking to Jim Rothstein, retired New York City detective.

01:23:16.000 And Jim, you were later even on a gubernatorial board investigating this, were you not?

01:23:23.000 Yes, in 1976, the governor of New York at the time, Kerry, appointed me to the New York State Select Committee on Crime and my partner, Maddie Rosenthal.

01:23:34.000 And we were assigned to look at what the effects this was having on society.

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01:23:48.000 We even had, at one point, where we brought in girls from all over the United States to testify in front of the full committee. 0.84

01:23:57.000 And then when we started on the pedophile stuff with the males, we were shut down very quickly.

01:24:04.000 We, in fact, at one point had gone for a wiretap order on one of the biggest callboy Operations running in the United States at that time, which ran right into Washington, D.C.

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01:24:25.000 And then his office went in and raided it and took all the files, which is the important thing.

01:24:31.000 Once you get the files, you know where it leads to.

01:24:34.000 And we got stopped right after that.

01:24:37.000 Yes.

01:24:38.000 And so they went in to get the material to cover it up.

01:24:41.000 That's right.

01:24:41.000 It was a full cover up and he's running for Attorney General, not Attorney General, for District Attorney in New York this year.

01:24:51.000 So, if there's anybody in New York listening, there's a guy you've got to get rid of.

01:24:55.000 Well, we have three affiliates in upstate New York, but... This is Manhattan.

01:25:00.000 Unfortunately, we're not on in Manhattan.

01:25:00.000 Yeah, I know.

01:25:02.000 We wish.

01:25:04.000 Look, Barney Frank, I mean, how many years ago was it?

01:25:07.000 It was on the nightly news that there was an underage cowboy ring being run out of his penthouse in D.C.

01:25:12.000 Yes, we actually had gotten into that in the early 70s already with the connections to Washington.

01:25:19.000 So Frank's name was coming up then?

01:25:21.000 Yes, and not only his name, but later on in the 70s, Shanley, the priest who was with Nambla, his name came up.

01:25:28.000 You know, they just convicted him up there.

01:25:30.000 And we tried to go after them, and at that point you could do nothing to these people.

01:25:35.000 It's unbelievable, and with these priests getting busted, and thank God they are, it's not going high enough.

01:25:42.000 That's right, and we started an investigation.

01:25:45.000 We, in 78 actually, is when we full bore went in to it with a priest by the name of Father Bruce Ritter, who had gotten a special dispensation from the church to clean this mess up.

01:25:58.000 Well, what happened is, Uh... he got ended up being accused of being a pedophile himself to stop him.

01:26:06.000 And that happened after I left the state of New York, otherwise they'd have never touched him.

01:26:10.000 But he had been ordered by the church in 78 by John Paul... Well, for those that just joined us, that was what, the mid-90s, the Barney Frank thing?

01:26:18.000 Yeah.

01:26:18.000 And it was admitted, he said, oh, I'm sorry, it's a mistake.

01:26:21.000 I mean, a full-bore pedophile ring out of his... I mean, these people are above the law, Paul Watson.

01:26:28.000 Well, the thing that gets me about it is that we have all this evidence of government figures being involved in this, and yet then they'll go and legislate things like a certain amount of adopted children need to be adopted to homosexual couples, when the facts are that, I mean, what is it, they're 300% more likely to abuse, and then another example is one of my relatives who works in the schools doing theatre productions.

01:26:54.000 I don't know if this is the same case in America.

01:26:58.000 But it is a criminal offense to have contact with the children.

01:27:01.000 If they run up and try to hug you, then it is a criminal offense even to have contact with them.

01:27:07.000 And this legislation is coming down from the same government who is involved in all this at these high levels.

01:27:13.000 So again, it's total hypocrisy.

01:27:17.000 Jim, is that your experience?

01:27:18.000 Well, yes, and there's a whole scandal waiting to break it, and not only in this country but around.

01:27:24.000 Has to do with the schools.

01:27:25.000 You're starting to see a few popping up here and there now, where some teachers are being accused of going with the children.

01:27:34.000 This is far bigger than anything that's come out yet.

01:27:37.000 And then the second one is the social services, where they place the children, the adoption stuff.

01:27:43.000 As you saw, there's been some cases down in Florida and other places around the country.

01:27:48.000 This is a real big scandal waiting to break.

01:27:51.000 There have been cases where, in Oregon, where the young 12-year-old girl is crying.

01:27:56.000 She's been taken from the Christian family, given to lesbians, and then the lesbians openly beat the mother in front of police, laughing on the courthouse steps. 1.00

01:28:05.000 Then the girl escapes a month later in chains, running to the police department in chains.

01:28:10.000 They give them back to the women, and the girl is never seen again.

01:28:13.000 Well, I haven't heard of that case, but there are a lot of these cases.

01:28:16.000 And this goes back to when I was working as one of my best informants.

01:28:20.000 Had, in fact, been molested when he was in a home, and that's what got him into this underground.

01:28:27.000 Folks, it is such a nightmare, and it is there, it is breeding, it is growing, we must fight it!

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01:32:03.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

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01:32:11.000 And it burns, burns, burns.

01:32:14.000 Alright, we're talking to retired New York City detective Jim Rothstein.

01:32:18.000 He was even on the Governor's Commission investigating this decades ago.

01:32:26.000 And I want to bring Paul Watson in here.

01:32:28.000 We have giant sections on PrisonPlanet.com of mainstream AP, BBC, AFP, where they dig up a bunch of dead bodies of small children.

01:32:39.000 They find women starving to death in cages, you know, in a government-controlled castle in France.

01:32:49.000 Just over and over again, satanic killings linked back to the royal families.

01:32:55.000 They dig dead bodies up in the Netherlands on the royal property.

01:33:00.000 I mean, it's just massive.

01:33:03.000 Italy, it's going on everywhere.

01:33:06.000 And you talked about the international connections.

01:33:09.000 I mentioned earlier, DynCorp, the UN, they've all been caught.

01:33:13.000 I mean, it's not even debatable.

01:33:15.000 On just massive levels.

01:33:17.000 Snuff film, just the pit of hell, and it seems to really be growing across the planet.

01:33:25.000 Do you have any comments on that, Jim?

01:33:27.000 Yes, they have been going on and it's escalating, but you never see, as I said before, a complete investigation.

01:33:34.000 They'll go to a point and then everything stops.

01:33:37.000 And that's where our problem is coming in.

01:33:39.000 But they have to do an investigation where they go right to the top, take it down, and prosecute these people.

01:33:45.000 This would not be difficult to do.

01:33:48.000 It would not be expensive.

01:33:51.000 Compared to the amount of money we are paying now, as a result of this, it would be pennies compared to that.

01:33:58.000 And it can be done.

01:33:59.000 We proved that back in the 70s when we ended the prostitution ring.

01:34:03.000 It can be done.

01:34:06.000 Paul Watson, this is rampant in England, is it not?

01:34:10.000 Yeah, I mean, we hear the same cases.

01:34:14.000 And, you know, which points are top-level MPs being involved in the same thing?

01:34:20.000 The thing I mentioned earlier, I've got the article here, study finds disproportionate abuse by gays.

01:34:26.000 A six-year study of sexual abuse committed by foster parents in Illinois found a highly disproportionate percentage of the cases were homosexual in nature.

01:34:35.000 About one-third were same-sex, while estimates are that no more than 3% of people in the general population say they engage in homosexual acts.

01:34:43.000 And then, on the back of that, you get groups like NAMBLA tagging itself onto the gay rights movement, saying that consensual sex with children should be legalized in the same brain. 0.55

01:34:54.000 Well, we had the American Psychological Association, founded by Dr. Ewing Cameron, who was convicted for running a giant CIA child kidnapping ring where they would brainwash children.

01:35:05.000 Folks, that's like, on the History Channel now, this is admitted, None of this is debatable.

01:35:10.000 We only talk about the facts here.

01:35:12.000 This is true.

01:35:13.000 The American Psychological Association in 2000, and remember Dr. Laura got in trouble for saying it was wrong, put out their yearly report and said, Pedophilia doesn't exist, and by the way, it's good for children.

01:35:26.000 It's good for children.

01:35:27.000 I mean, folks, this is big.

01:35:30.000 This is at the highest levels.

01:35:32.000 They're now coming out with what they want to do.

01:35:35.000 Paul?

01:35:36.000 Yeah, and I mean, then we've had articles, I believe, out of Oregon, as you mentioned earlier, and other places where the people appointed into positions in social services have passed convictions of paedophilia and child abuse.

01:35:50.000 And these are the people allocating these adopted kids to homosexual parents. 0.84

01:35:55.000 So, and it was something like 30,000 across the country had evidence of being involved in this, in the past were appointed to social services.

01:36:04.000 So how can that not be a directed program?

01:36:07.000 It's despicable.

01:36:09.000 Well, it's like Florida.

01:36:10.000 Remember the big controversy two years ago, over 3,000 children missing?

01:36:14.000 Some were just off the list, but hundreds were being found dead, or in prostitution, or their heads chopped off.

01:36:19.000 I'm talking about five-year-olds, folks.

01:36:22.000 And it turned out the person running the entire database was a convicted top pedophile and the number two under them was too!

01:36:30.000 That's see folks how they operate?

01:36:32.000 Let me get a comment from the detective.

01:36:34.000 Mr. Rothstein?

01:36:35.000 Yes, and this is very true.

01:36:37.000 We have let political correctness Start affecting everything, and political correctness just cost a bunch of people their lives down in Atlanta, Georgia as you can see, which is different than this, but the same thing is happening when he gets into this, where they let these people who are, first of all, pedophiles to start with, and put them in positions to run organizations and that, and they don't check on it, because number one, it's protected from the top.

01:37:07.000 Unbelievable.

01:37:09.000 It's just totally out of control.

01:37:12.000 I want to take some calls from Bob and Travis and others here in just a few minutes for folks that have been holding patiently, but Jim, how do we stop this?

01:37:23.000 Or do you just see it getting worse and worse?

01:37:25.000 No, as I said before, it takes the people.

01:37:28.000 Right now, if somebody truly wanted to stop this, any law enforcement agency in this country That would be willing to take this on could do it.

01:37:39.000 But they would have to protect the officers and the prosecutors who are working on it because the first thing that happens they go after them.

01:37:47.000 They try to buy you, they threaten you, they do whatever they can to stop you.

01:37:52.000 And a lot of this, and by the way, I've had former government officials on whose job was hunting these people down overseas, and really, they were operating, they later discovered, to go after the competition of the government-controlled range.

01:38:06.000 Kind of like illegal drugs in this country, the government agents are just allowed to go after the competition, not after the main mafias, And it is just systemic across the board to have this going on. 0.69

01:38:21.000 Well, Alex, there's another very important issue here, and that is the extortion, the human compromise, the human stuff that goes with it.

01:38:31.000 If you can compromise somebody as a pedophile, you have anything you want.

01:38:37.000 Say, for instance, you had a politician and you were in a business that needed his support.

01:38:42.000 You set them up with a kid, take the pictures, and you extort them.

01:38:46.000 And that's what's happening in many of these cases.

01:38:48.000 A lot of the cases I investigated ended up with big time extortion.

01:38:53.000 And it was used years ago to fight communism.

01:38:55.000 That was a big toll that was taken.

01:38:59.000 By the use of children to compromise people in the great days of the communist fight.

01:39:04.000 Well, the globalists are masters at using these excuses to get people in their system, government agents, to go along with all this evil.

01:39:12.000 Now, also, a lot of this results in the torture and death of these children.

01:39:15.000 You know, the American Psychological Association may say it's as wholesome as apple pie, but it's as rotten as a cesspit, ladies and gentlemen.

01:39:24.000 But a lot of these children end up getting killed, don't they?

01:39:27.000 Yes, a lot of them end up.

01:39:28.000 They just disappear.

01:39:29.000 You'll never find them.

01:39:31.000 Like I said, during the 70s, at one point, we had an intelligence system set up where we could locate almost every kid that fell into this network.

01:39:41.000 And naturally, it never went anywhere because it was getting too powerful.

01:39:46.000 We were able to penetrate almost anything.

01:39:48.000 We had infiltrated the whole underground.

01:39:51.000 You say you learned of Frank, Barney Frank, decades before it popped up on the national news.

01:39:58.000 Where did Frank first come up, the congressman?

01:40:00.000 Well, it came up in the general investigations we were doing with other politicians that came out of the White House at the time.

01:40:07.000 And then when the thing with the kids happened, where they were roaming around the White House, that was no news.

01:40:13.000 There were a lot of people that knew that that had been going on.

01:40:17.000 And if you noticed, it got covered up.

01:40:19.000 It never went anywhere.

01:40:20.000 Nobody ever investigated it.

01:40:22.000 It showed up in the front pages of the Washington Times and a few other publications, but yeah, then nothing happened.

01:40:26.000 Nothing was ever done to investigate that, and we know full well that that tied directly back to what John DeCamp was doing in the Franklin cover-up investigation.

01:40:36.000 And that's now coming out.

01:40:38.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:40:39.000 Barney Frank said he made a mistake.

01:40:41.000 He was sorry.

01:40:42.000 He's sorry he was running a pedophile ring out of his... I mean, the fuck does this admit it? 1.00

01:40:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:46.000 He can go to the microphysical library.

01:40:48.000 How did he not go to jail?

01:40:50.000 That's the big question.

01:40:52.000 And that's where the whole problem starts.

01:40:54.000 When they allowed this to happen, and when you know crimes have been committed.

01:40:58.000 For instance, the same thing happened with the church.

01:41:00.000 And nobody can pick on me because I am a Catholic, and so they can't holler at me for picking on them.

01:41:05.000 How can you violate that many children and nobody gets prosecuted?

01:41:09.000 There's something wrong.

01:41:13.000 Well, it's just unbelievable.

01:41:15.000 And you know, folks, it's just like the New World Order and 9-11.

01:41:18.000 I don't want to believe it, but when the facts are there, I mean, Frank admits it!

01:41:23.000 I remember watching on the news, you know, underage cowboy ran out of his house, and oh, I didn't know, I was just letting these people use my house.

01:41:32.000 But he lived there. 0.98

01:41:34.000 And you just look at him on TV, I mean, he's a sack of pus. 1.00

01:41:37.000 He is just a disgusting piece of garbage. 1.00

01:41:41.000 You can just look at him. 1.00

01:41:43.000 Ugh! 0.97

01:41:45.000 Well, he's not the only one.

01:41:46.000 There are many, many more.

01:41:47.000 And that's why these investigations have a hard time going anywhere.

01:41:51.000 And like I said, there was stuff where they used as compromise.

01:41:56.000 It's a fine art they've perfected.

01:41:58.000 And we uncovered that from the early 70s on.

01:42:02.000 And that was one of our biggest problems that stopped us from going ahead.

01:42:07.000 And that's why when the governor appointed us, we thought we might have a chance to get something done.

01:42:12.000 And as every other time, it got stopped.

01:42:17.000 And that's why we need the people to get involved.

01:42:19.000 We need shows like yours, more shows.

01:42:22.000 You know, and just keep hammering this thing and calling these politicians up and asking them on the air.

01:42:27.000 What are you going to do about it?

01:42:28.000 Well, Jim, Detective Rothstein, something else that came up was the Finders.

01:42:33.000 I mean, that was not debatable.

01:42:35.000 Started out in Florida with a van load of little boys, and then it led back to this government operation.

01:42:41.000 Tell us about that.

01:42:42.000 Yes, that was an intelligence operation.

01:42:44.000 In fact, I was in Washington when that broke.

01:42:48.000 uh... where at that time this was in the early nineties when that first started breaking uh... and it was a very good man by the name of Tom Straminski who was responsible for this and at that point there was going to be a bipartisan congressional investigation into all of that and I even had to prepare a memo or document outlining what it was and before it could get going it was shut down tighter than a drum so it goes across party lines

01:43:15.000 And it covers everything, and it would have been, that investigation would have been able to go to the top, but it got shut down.

01:43:22.000 So, it's not just at the state level.

01:43:27.000 Well, you obviously have criminology, and I've just researched a lot of my own.

01:43:32.000 The mindset of serial killers and abusers and sickos and sadists They get in their own little groups, their own little societies, they correspond, and really we look at the New World Order, we look at Rome, we look at the Aztecs, we look at throughout history, elites go crazy, they get decadent, they get inbred, and they start doing this in every case in history. 0.90

01:43:54.000 This is what This elite does, and we've got the same group in, and they're a bunch of people who don't have conscience, who are psychopaths. 0.95

01:44:02.000 Is it any surprise that they're setting up their own kingdom of darkness right here in front of us?

01:44:09.000 And now, Jim, I mentioned all these TV shows where they show torturing children is good.

01:44:15.000 Do you see that as part of the master plan to condition us?

01:44:18.000 Like I said, when we did that investigation with the New York State Select Committee on Crime that time, We had the Policy Science Corporation as consultants, which was headed by Harold Laswell, who explained to us that this is exactly what happened in the history of the world and is happening again now.

01:44:18.000 Well, yes.

01:44:35.000 Probably one of the greatest cover-ups that ever took place in this country, that involved all elements of this, was the Son of Sam case.

01:44:43.000 I don't know if you're familiar with that, with David Berkowitz?

01:44:46.000 Yeah, definite, definite operation, yeah.

01:44:49.000 Yes, and as you know, Maury Terry wrote a book on it, Which covered the whole thing, and to this date, nobody has ever investigated fully.

01:44:58.000 I've been brought back to New York twice to look at this case, and both times when I get there, something happens and it's shut back down again.

01:45:07.000 So we know it's still going on to this day.

01:45:09.000 It's just spread out all over the country.

01:45:13.000 And they're getting more power.

01:45:14.000 Yes, and that's why we need the people. 0.95

01:45:17.000 Only the people can stop this.

01:45:19.000 If we had thousands of people calling their congressmen and saying, and demanding, we want something done now.

01:45:26.000 And when they do the investigation, don't hire the people who've been covering it up to do the investigating.

01:45:31.000 Bring some people in that truly know what's happening in this field.

01:45:35.000 Well, it expands.

01:45:36.000 I've got mainstream news articles about Janet Reno caught in the back of a car with an underage girl with vomit all over because Reno was on so many pills and booze. 0.87

01:45:47.000 And then Reno's, you know, tastes are well known.

01:45:50.000 And, I mean, it just expands out from there.

01:45:53.000 Every time you... I mean, these people get caught all the time.

01:45:56.000 Oh, yes.

01:45:56.000 Every day there's somebody nailed.

01:45:58.000 And every day And remember, when something's fixed, that means they owe somebody a favor again.

01:46:03.000 And then it just, it's self-perpetuating.

01:46:06.000 It just keeps going on and on.

01:46:09.000 And that, again, that's why we have to do something and do it soon.

01:46:13.000 Uh, it's just getting worse and worse every year. 0.80

01:46:15.000 I mean, Janet Reno is a 13-year-old girl covered in vomit. 1.00

01:46:20.000 I mean, that's who we're dealing with, folks. 0.99

01:46:22.000 Vomit-covered vermin. 0.95

01:46:25.000 Ah! 1.00

01:46:26.000 Disgusting, isn't it? 1.00

01:46:27.000 I'm so sick of these! 0.99

01:46:28.000 Man, I'm telling you!

01:46:29.000 Paul Watson comments.

01:46:32.000 Well, I mean, we can make no other conclusion than what we're facing is pure evil.

01:46:36.000 And they push it through the culture as well. 0.97

01:46:38.000 I mean, seven-year-old girls dressing as whores is seen as cool. 1.00

01:46:42.000 They throw it in our faces. 0.99

01:46:44.000 I mean, articles in Newsweek about how eleven-year-old girls giving oral sex is seen as cool now from the peer pressure. 0.86

01:46:53.000 And here in Britain we have sex education classes at age seven.

01:46:57.000 They're pushing it through the culture, through the schooling system, and it's despicable, and it's designed to warp people's mentalities into accepting this, to the point where, via political correctness, you know, in 20 years, will paedophilia be on the same level of acceptability as homosexuality? 0.98

01:47:14.000 It's getting that bad that we see... Well, I predict in 20 years, there'll be... people will be marrying their cockroaches. 0.99

01:47:22.000 Exactly. 0.69

01:47:23.000 No, I'm serious.

01:47:25.000 People will like walk, you know, and they'll dress the cockroach up in a little groom's outfit.

01:47:30.000 I'm not kidding.

01:47:31.000 Jim?

01:47:32.000 I agree.

01:47:33.000 It's getting unbelievable.

01:47:34.000 All in political correctness.

01:47:37.000 You know, we can't arm this or we can't pick on them.

01:47:40.000 Are we going to let our children for the next two generations go down the drain just because somebody who is totally decadent wants to get into society and put their Uh, uh, evilness into all of us.

01:47:54.000 I just cannot see that.

01:47:55.000 That's why the good people, uh, have to act up.

01:47:58.000 It's like our show here today.

01:47:59.000 You should have 50 calls or 100 calls waiting to get on the show.

01:48:04.000 But, it doesn't happen.

01:48:05.000 The people just don't want to believe this stuff.

01:48:07.000 Oh no, we have unlimited calls on this broadcast.

01:48:10.000 In fact, let's speak of the devil.

01:48:11.000 Let's go to one right now.

01:48:12.000 Bob in Pennsylvania.

01:48:14.000 Go ahead.

01:48:14.000 Bob, you're on the air.

01:48:15.000 Hello, Alex.

01:48:16.000 Hello.

01:48:17.000 Oh, hi Richard, or Jim.

01:48:19.000 Yes.

01:48:21.000 First of all, my hat's off to both of you for all you're doing.

01:48:24.000 Speak up for me.

01:48:24.000 We need more people like you.

01:48:26.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:48:26.000 Can you hear me now?

01:48:28.000 Okay.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:48:30.000 My hat's off to both of you.

01:48:33.000 We need more people like both of you.

01:48:36.000 I have something that... Basically, here, I live in a small town in Pennsylvania, Crawford County.

01:48:43.000 And we have a... We had a judge that was here.

01:48:49.000 Basically, he got caught with a...

01:48:52.000 Pulling into a Holiday Inn one night with a underage girl. 0.59

01:48:57.000 State police pulled over and the next day the state policeman didn't even have a job.

01:49:05.000 This came from me.

01:49:07.000 I worked as a steel worker and worked with a state constable there.

01:49:11.000 And he told me this.

01:49:12.000 And he said, if you ever say this, I will deny it.

01:49:15.000 Basically, the judge isn't with us anymore.

01:49:21.000 Eventually taken into so much stuff that he was told to stand down.

01:49:28.000 And now he's, you know, then he just died.

01:49:35.000 But that's basically what I have to say. 0.93

01:49:37.000 We have to stop these perverts, you know. 0.97

01:49:40.000 Well, they're more than just perverts. 0.98

01:49:42.000 Oh, I understand. 1.00

01:49:43.000 They're demon-possessed soul eaters.

01:49:47.000 And I had a couple questions. 0.98

01:49:48.000 Stay there.

01:49:49.000 We'll let you comment when we get back.

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01:54:19.000 Bob, real quick in Pennsylvania, finish up what you were saying, your question, because I've got other callers.

01:54:23.000 Okay, basically, one thing I wanted to say is I've been trying to call my congressman, Phil English, and anymore he doesn't respond to me telling me anything of what I want to ask him, of different things that he's voted on.

01:54:37.000 I hear nothing from them and they won't give me any answers.

01:54:41.000 Also, one thing I wanted to ask you is, this will be real quick, it has nothing to do with this, but what day Was building 7 pulled and how long after the second building did it fall?

01:54:52.000 It was like 5.30, 4.30 central and they blew it up.

01:54:59.000 On the same day?

01:54:59.000 Thanks for the call.

01:55:00.000 Yes, sir.

01:55:01.000 Same day.

01:55:02.000 Thanks for the call.

01:55:03.000 Travis in Washington.

01:55:04.000 Travis, you're on the air.

01:55:06.000 Go ahead.

01:55:07.000 Hey, man.

01:55:07.000 Hello.

01:55:09.000 Just a couple comments, Alex.

01:55:10.000 I like your 9-11 film.

01:55:11.000 I didn't get a review of it because I didn't see the link and that goes to your webmaster there.

01:55:15.000 I didn't see it off my Prison Planet TV website.

01:55:18.000 No biggie.

01:55:19.000 Good film.

01:55:20.000 The communist guy was the best. 0.99

01:55:23.000 He was so busy talking, he ignored anything you had to say, so I'd like to dub that guy as ignorant. 0.95

01:55:29.000 I do have a question for Jim, though. 0.94

01:55:30.000 He's still there.

01:55:31.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:55:32.000 Hey, Jim, did they teach you in detective school that, according to our Constitution, unless you come against somebody's life, liberty, or property, you haven't committed a crime?

01:55:41.000 What was the... I didn't get the...

01:55:44.000 Did they teach us that it wasn't a crime unless you did something against... Unless you come against somebody's life, liberty, or property.

01:55:51.000 No.

01:55:52.000 No, I... They didn't teach you that?

01:55:54.000 No.

01:55:55.000 I wonder why?

01:55:55.000 I don't know.

01:55:56.000 I don't know.

01:55:57.000 That's pretty odd.

01:55:58.000 Anyway, your Reaper Madness film, Alex, I liked it.

01:56:01.000 I liked it a lot.

01:56:03.000 All the herbs were put in here by God to use for us for medicinal purposes.

01:56:07.000 Any drug, I figure, is extracted from a plant and then played with by man.

01:56:12.000 Synthesize, whatever they do, making Prozac, Redline, all that stuff.

01:56:16.000 That's my take on your Reaper Madness film.

01:56:18.000 You did good commentary.

01:56:20.000 I sat my dad in front of it yesterday.

01:56:21.000 He's 80 years old, and he was sitting there watching it, and he enjoyed it.

01:56:25.000 You're talking about the comments I did on Reaper Madness?

01:56:28.000 Yes, great, excellent commentary.

01:56:30.000 All right, thank you for the call, Travis.

01:56:33.000 Tim in Ohio.

01:56:34.000 Tim, you're on the air with our guest.

01:56:35.000 Go ahead.

01:56:36.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:56:37.000 Hello.

01:56:37.000 Jim, how are you?

01:56:38.000 Good, how are you?

01:56:39.000 Hello, Paul, if you're still there.

01:56:42.000 I wonder if James Traffikant from Youngstown who was thrown in jail has come up on your radio on any of this.

01:56:48.000 He came out before he was slapped with the charges he was slapped with and was talking about this place some type of charm school in Youngstown where they were actually doing this type of activities.

01:57:03.000 Well I don't remember Traffikant in particular but I had during my investigations A lot of my stuff led me to Ohio, especially Columbus, Ohio.

01:57:12.000 And that was well known at that time that there were all types of things taking place in the state of Ohio.

01:57:18.000 And it's interesting, too.

01:57:20.000 It's like, you know, you tell us to call these congressmen and senators, and a lot of those senators that we're going to be calling have pictures of them probably on file that they don't want to get out.

01:57:29.000 And I believe that this is why things never change, and they can't complete the agenda that they've started.

01:57:36.000 That's why we have to vote them out.

01:57:38.000 Find out who they are and vote them out and get somebody decenter than them.

01:57:41.000 We'll be right back.

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01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

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01:58:23.000 We're talking to retired New York Detective Jim Rothstein, who was part of the Governor's Task Force investigating, well, underage prostitution, pedophilia, you name it, time and time again it led back to government officials.

01:58:39.000 And he was told to basically get off the case many, many times.

01:58:43.000 Somebody's got to stand up for these little ones.

01:58:46.000 Somebody's got to talk about these horrors.

01:58:49.000 And as a society, you know, this is our government that wants us to give up all of our freedoms to them.

01:58:54.000 This is the government selling us that torture and evil is good. 0.92

01:58:57.000 It's just disgusting.

01:58:58.000 I know we have a lot of callers holding.

01:59:01.000 We'll have Jim for two more segments, then I'm going to shift gears into other news with Paul Watson.

01:59:05.000 Toll-free number to join us on air, 1-800-259-9231.

01:59:11.000 But before we go back to calls, Paul Watson, just sitting back listening to all of this, what are your ideas on ways to stop it?

01:59:21.000 Well, I mean, firstly, we need to get the government, get the schools out of sex education because it should be down to the parents. 0.59

01:59:29.000 I talked about this earlier and it needs to be emphasized.

01:59:33.000 Just look what message the government's sending out. 0.55

01:59:36.000 I said seven-year-olds were being forced to undergo sex education. 0.98

01:59:41.000 I've actually got an article here from The Guardian.

01:59:43.000 Sex lessons for five-year-olds should be compulsory, say government advisors.

01:59:49.000 That is even worse than I thought.

01:59:51.000 And then Nickelodeon puts together a little corporate meeting and says, this was like two years ago, oh, we need to sexualize the eight to eleven-year-olds 0.96

01:59:59.000 Yeah, and then you get their so-called cultural icons, Christina Aguilera, saying that it's unfair for a girl who sleeps with several different boys to be called a slut if a boy does it and gets called a stud. 1.00

02:00:23.000 I mean, it's good for girls to sleep with several different boys and the people that listen to her, you know, 11, 12, 13 year olds who read these magazines that they put out like Sugar and Just 17 here in the UK, which are completely full of trying to sexualize children. 0.59

02:00:39.000 And those magazines like 17 are targeting 10 year olds?

02:00:44.000 Oh yeah, they call them Just 17 and their main base of readership is the 10-11 year olds and they know exactly what they're doing.

02:00:50.000 Who was the big rock star who got mad about it and went public?

02:00:54.000 Bob Geldof.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, because he saw his daughter's magazine.

02:00:57.000 He's like, this is pornographic!

02:00:59.000 Now, let's go back to the detective.

02:01:01.000 Jim, I mean, we really see the American Psychological Association saying pedophilia is good.

02:01:05.000 We see this big promotion everywhere.

02:01:08.000 They're really trying to come out in the open!

02:01:10.000 Why, certainly.

02:01:10.000 And it's all part of the social engineering that they're trying to do around this world and country.

02:01:18.000 And that's one of the first things that has to be stopped.

02:01:21.000 They seem to think we don't know what's good for our own children.

02:01:25.000 And many times the garbage they put out there is far worse than anything we can imagine.

02:01:31.000 And the big thing here though is to really get on this is to start some investigations and put some of these people in prison for 50, 60 years.

02:01:40.000 It would be amazed how quick they're cured.

02:01:44.000 Absolutely.

02:01:45.000 We're going to break here in a moment and come back and take some more calls.

02:01:50.000 We're going to talk to Vox and Rodney and David and many others, toll free number to join us, 800-259-9231.

02:01:55.000 I'm going to give each caller about a minute and a half or so and let both our guests comment on it because I want to get to as many people as possible in this next final segment with our guest.

02:02:06.000 And then Paul, what's some of the other news you want to cover later?

02:02:10.000 Um, we need to cover rock stars getting arrested in airports for the kind of t-shirt they're wearing.

02:02:17.000 A new level of, um, homeland security.

02:02:20.000 Uh, more evidence on the, um, Princess Diana situation, which we need to go over as well.

02:02:26.000 Clear murder!

02:02:27.000 I mean, she said Charles was gonna kill me in a fake auto accident.

02:02:30.000 He told me so! 0.85

02:02:31.000 And she dies!

02:02:33.000 I mean, it's pretty obvious.

02:02:34.000 But there have been some new developments.

02:02:36.000 We'll talk about that as well.

02:02:38.000 Plus, the New York Times says the feds are telling them what the new terror targets are going to be.

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02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:09.000 Coming up, the White House defends its video news releases.

02:06:12.000 Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of fake newscasts paying off your local news stations.

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02:06:32.000 report lists possible terrorist attacks and likely targets and the toll.

02:06:38.000 We'll be getting into that.

02:06:39.000 Also, new information on Princess Diana's murder.

02:06:43.000 Right now, we're talking to Jim Rothstein, a retired New York City police detective who worked for the governor on a commission tracking these government-run white slavery rings.

02:06:53.000 He knew about Barney Frank and his callboy ring a full decade before it broke on national news.

02:06:58.000 Remember, Barney Frank never got in trouble.

02:07:00.000 We're talking about real, documented stuff here.

02:07:04.000 And let's go ahead and take another call.

02:07:07.000 Let's talk to Vox in New York.

02:07:09.000 You're on the air with Jim Rothstein, Paul Watson, and Alex Jones.

02:07:12.000 Go ahead, come on in.

02:07:14.000 Great show, guys.

02:07:15.000 Thanks a lot.

02:07:16.000 The Rosetta Stones seem to drop from the sky on your show.

02:07:20.000 Father Ritter, the detective mentioned Father Ritter, who I trace back as an honorary knight of Malta.

02:07:27.000 And this is the exclusive sovereign order of Malta, which is the most elite of the elite.

02:07:34.000 And so you say, you know, we have to investigate them.

02:07:36.000 We have people like George Tenet and George Bush and Colin Powell, who are also knights of Malta.

02:07:41.000 There's very few people who can investigate these people.

02:07:44.000 And now they're running Covenant House.

02:07:47.000 and Casa Alianza, which is the Latin America, to help the kids down in Latin America.

02:07:54.000 And information is disappearing on this as we speak.

02:07:57.000 I used to be able to get a whole lot of information on all these groups, and now it's vanishing.

02:08:02.000 Also, Bush Sr. has this pattern of chilling proximity to very suspicious pedophilic historical documented cases.

02:08:14.000 And, um, Bush apparently hid after the revelation of Cliff Spence.

02:08:20.000 I've got to stop you.

02:08:20.000 Somebody's got an answering machine live on the air open, so whoever's got an answering machine going off in the background, please cover your phone up.

02:08:29.000 Let me get a comment from Jim Rothstein on the things you're saying.

02:08:33.000 Well, I know in particular about Father Ritter.

02:08:35.000 Father Ritter was set up to be taken out and falsely accused of being a pedophile because at the point I had been assigned to work with him, I had, number one, investigated him twice before, and both times he came up clean.

02:08:51.000 Now, I'm not talking about the Nights of Malta stuff, but he had the files that would have destroyed some very powerful people in this country, and that's why they stopped him.

02:09:03.000 Okay.

02:09:05.000 Also, some of the chilling proximities that Bush Sr. has has had.

02:09:11.000 Also, I'm getting tips that there was a thing called Boys for Sale, which was a documentary apparently aired on PBS in Texas and nowhere else.

02:09:19.000 And it was Thomas Pilpot, P-H-I-L-P-O-T, who was a UT Texas at Austin, who committed suicide.

02:09:27.000 I verified that, that's true.

02:09:29.000 Who was involved in that, that disappeared.

02:09:32.000 And that implicated Bush. 0.95

02:09:36.000 What we have implicating the Bushes is the New York Post, top gay porn star services moguls at Bohemian Grove. 0.83

02:09:43.000 What we have is the Washington Times, 1989, you know, midnight cowboy tour of the White House.

02:09:48.000 But thank you for the call.

02:09:49.000 That's a lot of information to cover.

02:09:51.000 Thank you for the call.

02:09:52.000 Let's let Jim comment on the Bushes.

02:09:55.000 Jim?

02:09:56.000 Yes, their names have come up many times.

02:09:59.000 In one direction, it has come out to be true, but when I look at it the other way, I haven't been able to tie it together.

02:10:06.000 That doesn't mean it isn't true, and it doesn't mean it's false, but there is something to be looked at.

02:10:11.000 As you know, that name also comes up in the Franklin cover-up case with the stuff going to Washington.

02:10:18.000 Paul Watson?

02:10:20.000 Well, I mean, going back to the historical precedence of targeting children, and I mean, obviously nowadays these clandestine organizations use it to compromise people, but also, you know, is it any different from the people who fed their children into the belly of Molec to supposedly further their careers and finances, that we see the same elites doing the same thing today? 0.61

02:10:43.000 You know, 45 million abortions since, what, 1973?

02:10:49.000 So, I mean, you can layer the history over them.

02:10:51.000 We've got the same people in power doing the same things, and it's no surprise to see it happening.

02:10:55.000 And we know the Bushes worship Moloch.

02:10:57.000 I've been there.

02:10:58.000 I've videotaped it.

02:10:59.000 They admit I snuck into the Grove.

02:11:01.000 It's mainstream news.

02:11:02.000 Yes, Alex got this video, but we disagree with his interpretation.

02:11:05.000 I mean, what interpretation?

02:11:07.000 They got a bound body effigy of a child.

02:11:09.000 They burn it before the owl to get rid of their conscience.

02:11:12.000 Were you aware of Bohemian Grove, Detective?

02:11:15.000 Yes, I was very much aware of it.

02:11:18.000 uh... this goes back many many years and it got really brought it to the forefront if you remember michael reconnoisseur are you familiar with that name yes uh... that was when reconnoisseur decided to go public is when they were going to put him into bohemian grove and there's a long story behind that but i know that for a fact oh boy uh... let's go ahead and talk to rodney in texas rodney you're on the air thanks for holding good afternoon gentlemen

02:11:49.000 I'm going to first of all commend you, Alex.

02:11:51.000 The last couple of days you've had some guests on your show that have absolutely been riveting.

02:11:58.000 It's sad that these things are coming out now.

02:12:05.000 They have to come out, and I'm glad that I'm listening to them, and I just hope that you continue to bring this information forward to the public.

02:12:14.000 I have two questions, quick questions, for both of your guests.

02:12:17.000 One for Paul Watson.

02:12:19.000 Your book, Order Out of Chaos, does it cover any of the events of 9-11?

02:12:23.000 And for Detective Rothstein, I'm curious about the John Denae Ramsey.

02:12:30.000 A case that looked like that was a whitewash, and I'd like to get your answer.

02:12:34.000 I'll take it off the air, and thank you very kindly.

02:12:36.000 Okay, thanks Rodney.

02:12:37.000 Paul?

02:12:38.000 I believe the question was, does it cover any of the events of 9-11?

02:12:42.000 Basically, the spine of the book, the middle three chapters, cover the foreknowledge before, the involvement with the terrorists, and then the event itself, and what they got out of it.

02:12:53.000 So three chapters of the book do cover 9-11.

02:12:57.000 And those are the three biggest chapters.

02:12:58.000 I'd say half the book.

02:12:59.000 That's right.

02:13:01.000 And then the first part of the book is the history of government-sponsored terror, why they do it, then 9-11, and then after that, Paul gets into the whole police state.

02:13:09.000 It's an excellent 322-page book, or 324-page book, and you can get my book and Paul's book for $19.95, over 550 pages for $19.95.

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02:13:33.000 He had a question, Rodney had a question for you about JonBenet Ramsey.

02:13:39.000 Yes, although I didn't personally work on the case, I did get quite a bit of information and it wasn't from the main street media.

02:13:47.000 One of the particular things that they did there is right away go after the parents so that nobody would look at anything else.

02:13:54.000 The information I had that there was some type of operation going on out there that would have targeted her and other kids in that area.

02:14:02.000 And I think that's where the investigation was stopped and they started blaming the parents, which I don't believe had anything to do with it.

02:14:12.000 Alrighty, let's go ahead and talk to Paul in Tennessee.

02:14:16.000 Paul, you're on the air.

02:14:17.000 Hello, Alex.

02:14:17.000 Go ahead.

02:14:18.000 Hello.

02:14:18.000 May you be blessed forever.

02:14:20.000 I'm going to make this quick.

02:14:24.000 I have a four minute audio tape recorded in a thunderstorm.

02:14:28.000 As I said, it runs about four minutes.

02:14:31.000 You can listen to one minute of it if you wish.

02:14:36.000 On hearing it, I'm sure you'll want a copy.

02:14:39.000 Coming up.

02:15:07.000 We interrupt this program with a special bulletin.

02:15:11.000 America is now under martial law.

02:15:16.000 All constitutional rights have been suspended.

02:15:21.000 Stay in your home.

02:15:24.000 Do not attempt to con-- Yep.

02:15:27.000 Go ahead and put him on hold.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, that was theme music I used about five, six years ago.

02:15:34.000 It's a Jell-O Biafra. 0.97

02:15:36.000 And that title track, that particular track is on the Ice-T CD I've got somewhere.

02:15:43.000 I ought to play that.

02:15:44.000 I need to get that in the computer up there and use it.

02:15:46.000 I've heard some of the other shows using it.

02:15:48.000 But did you know what that was, Paul?

02:15:52.000 Yeah, I think we posted it on the website years ago.

02:15:56.000 So I can probably try and dig it up again.

02:15:58.000 Hey, why don't you tell the folks around the show where that's at, Paul, and we'll get them to play it on air for people.

02:16:04.000 I'll try.

02:16:05.000 I can't remember where it is exactly, but I'll have a look.

02:16:08.000 I think the CD's actually in this office somewhere, but there's hundreds of CDs.

02:16:12.000 Anything else, Paul?

02:16:18.000 He's still playing it.

02:16:20.000 Alright, thanks for the call, Paul.

02:16:22.000 You know what, Jim Rothstein, it seems like we are going into martial law in America.

02:16:28.000 Your comments on that?

02:16:29.000 Well, I don't know.

02:16:32.000 Sometimes you wonder what's really going on.

02:16:35.000 And again, it's up to us to stop this stuff.

02:16:39.000 And only people like you who put on shows like this can help and do it.

02:16:43.000 And that's why I'm always willing to do a show anytime we can get this out to the public.

02:16:49.000 But as a society, I mean, it's not just this group creeping around under the floorboards.

02:16:54.000 We see their agenda everywhere around us.

02:16:57.000 Most certainly.

02:16:58.000 They're out in the public now.

02:16:59.000 And the people just have to look.

02:17:01.000 It's all over the place.

02:17:03.000 I read like a Reuters article years ago where this, I don't want to say his name, but this top mogul CEO of a major computer company gave like 80 million dollars to Nambla?

02:17:14.000 Oh, I don't remember hearing about that one, but Nambla was very powerful and still is.

02:17:20.000 Even with Shanley gone, it's just amazing how the people condoned them to even operate.

02:17:27.000 That is a disgrace that's beyond belief.

02:17:29.000 Well, Jim Rothstein, I want to thank you for coming on with us.

02:17:31.000 Thank you for having me.

02:17:32.000 Bye.

02:17:33.000 Sir?

02:17:34.000 Yeah?

02:17:36.000 Would you like to give out contact info or anything?

02:17:38.000 Well, if they want, they can call your show and you can get in touch with me.

02:17:41.000 All right.

02:17:41.000 God bless you.

02:17:41.000 Thank you.

02:17:42.000 We'll be right back with more calls.

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02:21:38.000 You game for that?

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02:21:39.000 Alright, let's do it.

02:21:41.000 Omar in Michigan and Ron, Tom.

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02:21:54.000 You game for that?

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02:21:57.000 Omar in Michigan and Ron, Tom.

02:22:00.000 Omar, go ahead.

02:22:01.000 He's getting to the telephone.

02:22:06.000 Hello!

02:22:09.000 He's there.

02:22:09.000 He just did a listing or something.

02:22:11.000 Ron in New York.

02:22:13.000 Ron, you're on the air.

02:22:14.000 Go ahead.

02:22:17.000 Alex.

02:22:18.000 Yes.

02:22:19.000 God bless you.

02:22:19.000 How are you doing?

02:22:20.000 Good.

02:22:20.000 Go ahead.

02:22:21.000 Who is this?

02:22:22.000 This is Ron in New York.

02:22:23.000 Go ahead, Ron.

02:22:23.000 Did you get the tape on the house I live in and that I had sent you with a letter?

02:22:30.000 Yes, I got your letter.

02:22:31.000 Thank you, sir.

02:22:33.000 I don't know, do you have any ideas about getting that CD?

02:22:37.000 Because I don't think you can play the ones that I sent.

02:22:39.000 They weren't that clear, but one of them wasn't too bad.

02:22:42.000 Well, I actually own those Frank Sinatra songs.

02:22:44.000 You do?

02:22:45.000 Yeah.

02:22:45.000 Any idea about playing those on the air?

02:22:48.000 Well, I don't really play music very often.

02:22:50.000 It's a talk show, but I mean, I might play some Frank Sinatra songs.

02:22:54.000 No, I mean, as a theme, you know, to...

02:22:58.000 That's a great song to do that.

02:23:01.000 It is a great song.

02:23:02.000 What else is on your mind?

02:23:03.000 I put Kate Smith on there too, her rendition.

02:23:07.000 David Ickes has something in his book on 9-11 about Bush Sr.

02:23:13.000 and a woman and he has quotes there from her about being a sex slave and her daughter also with Bush Sr.

02:23:23.000 It's in his book on 9-11.

02:23:25.000 I know, there's a lot of amazing stuff.

02:23:28.000 I can't confirm that stuff, so I don't really cover it.

02:23:30.000 God bless you.

02:23:31.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

02:23:32.000 I appreciate the CD.

02:23:34.000 Let's talk to Tom.

02:23:35.000 Tom, where are you calling us from?

02:23:37.000 How are you doing today?

02:23:40.000 Good, I'm doing good.

02:23:41.000 Go ahead.

02:23:42.000 Did you get the first podcast in City, Missouri?

02:23:44.000 Anyways, I just want to tell you something that I heard on NPR a couple weeks ago that got me thinking.

02:23:49.000 They were talking about all the new security measures and basically the security industry getting put in place with this whole martial law thing coming down.

02:23:57.000 And they used a very interesting term.

02:23:59.000 It was called the Security Industrial Complex.

02:24:02.000 And once I started thinking about it, and I started thinking about what Eisenhower said about the military-industrial complex, and anybody out there that has any question where this is going, all they need to do is look at history.

02:24:11.000 Look what happened when the military-industrial complex was in full swing.

02:24:15.000 I mean, I've even used that term, is the security complex.

02:24:20.000 What's happened is the military-industrial complex now gets most of the budget, they run the country, Now they're making us all the enemy, and they're taking over the society and private firms.

02:24:30.000 You know, 7 million people in private prisons, competing against the rest of us at 20 cents an hour.

02:24:35.000 I mean, it's all very, very serious.

02:24:37.000 Paul Watson?

02:24:39.000 Well, that's the case.

02:24:40.000 And the way they'll get the security industrial complex on a day-to-day level is by targeting, as we talked about earlier, these soft targets, which will lead to you seeing armed police in shopping malls.

02:24:55.000 I mean, they have guards there at the moment, but, you know, they'll get all the full riot gear and you'll see them on every street corner because of the targeting of soft targets, which will make people believe that their day-to-day activities are under threat.

02:25:07.000 Which the government's now getting us ready for with massive fear-mongering right now.

02:25:14.000 Yeah, and the food supply as well.

02:25:17.000 What else were they saying on this NPR piece?

02:25:20.000 To tell you the truth, it was late at night.

02:25:22.000 I caught only a little bit of it, but I mean, they were basically, completely advocating the entire implementation of the structure. 0.64

02:25:28.000 And I mean, it was just ridiculous.

02:25:30.000 And you know, it was almost like it was scripted.

02:25:33.000 I mean, and it was insane that there was actually people calling in and agreeing and advocating that, you know, this is the right thing, that, you know, armed thugs on the corner, you know, scanning our irises is the way to go if we want to be safe, and that is not the way to go.

02:25:46.000 But not on the border, though.

02:25:47.000 Can't put those guys on the border.

02:25:49.000 Gotta leave that open.

02:25:50.000 Yeah, we can fence, you know, tens of thousands of miles of highways, but we can't fence the border.

02:25:54.000 Well, they can fence all of Afghanistan but on our border. 0.98

02:25:57.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.90

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02:26:23.000 And thank you for the call, sir.

02:26:26.000 Now, he brings up a really good point.

02:26:27.000 I mean, they're telling us that we're going to have the shopping malls and schools hit.

02:26:31.000 So we've got to have metal detectors and armed guards and those, as if Al-Qaeda really existed.

02:26:36.000 And it was not some CIA attack, which they've called for in Operation Gladiola and others, Operation Northwoods.

02:26:43.000 That's not going to stop somebody with machine guns going in if there's armed police inside a mall.

02:26:49.000 Well, no, it's not.

02:26:50.000 The point about convincing us that Al-Qaeda is running around our back gardens is what they've done here in Britain with these 500 so-called terror arrests in London, two of which they actually charged with immigration fraud, so none of the 500 suspects arrested had any evidence tied to them involving terrorism, but that was in the back of the paper after the mass arrests were on the front page, so that's how you get people

02:27:18.000 ...believing this myth that these terrorists are running around their back garden and threatening to disrupt their day-to-day life.

02:27:24.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with the news, and later we'll take some more calls.

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02:30:34.000 three four zero seven zero nine one that eight hundred three four zero seven zero nine one or visit cal ben pure soap dot com time magazine the new york times cnn usa today the terrorists are planning to hit public schools

02:31:02.000 They're planning to hit shopping malls.

02:31:05.000 And the FBI is saying we need armed guards.

02:31:08.000 We need face scanning cameras.

02:31:10.000 We need metal detectors.

02:31:11.000 Everywhere!

02:31:13.000 Everywhere!

02:31:14.000 As if someone who has weapons is going to be stopped by armed guards.

02:31:18.000 I mean, how many guards would it take to really defend a mall, a large mall?

02:31:22.000 Hundreds!

02:31:24.000 Hundreds!

02:31:25.000 Oh, but don't worry, the Military-Industrial Complex will give you the private agency troops that are paid exorbitantly, and then of course won't have any real terrorists to deal with, so they'll quote, fight crime while they're at it.

02:31:37.000 They're saying these checkpoints, these road tolls are going to have the police there, trained by the TSA, the airport thugs, have to do this to you.

02:31:44.000 And they said, back in January, the 21st on Bush's inauguration, they said, this is the model for the country.

02:31:52.000 For every four people, Out there, there was a cop, and over them was the military.

02:31:58.000 And it was total police state.

02:32:00.000 Paul Watson, they know what they're doing, don't they?

02:32:03.000 They know exactly what they're doing.

02:32:05.000 We talked about Gladio earlier, where that was the very direction the whole program.

02:32:11.000 To whip up the people into a state of fear whereby they would entrust all their trust and liberty into the hands of the state to protect them.

02:32:19.000 And then on the flip side of this targeting of the soft targets, the schools, the shopping malls, on the back side of the so-called Al Zarqawi-Bin Laden partnership, which is targeting America, again, Bin Laden hasn't been seen for three years.

02:32:38.000 Al Zarqawi has never been photographed at all, even in Iraq, where he supposedly operates.

02:32:45.000 On the flip side, we get this leaked FBI report which says there are no Al-Qaeda cells in America.

02:32:51.000 They have no capability of targeting America because the facts are that the real Al-Qaeda are just a loosely knit group of fanatics in the Middle East.

02:33:00.000 They have no organized structure.

02:33:03.000 The word Al-Qaeda in Arabic means the toilet. 0.87

02:33:06.000 I really think that these people would name their awesome, impressive terrorist group after, you know, the toilet.

02:33:14.000 We have the evidence of the White House scripting fake terror alerts.

02:33:19.000 We've got Scott Ritter coming out this week saying the Neocon Brownshirts have resorted to terror tactics.

02:33:25.000 And then the admission on the record that FBI agents have come out and blown the whistle on that they scripted... Well, Paul, we have a gigantic section on the websites of fake terror alerts.

02:33:35.000 That's right.

02:33:36.000 I mean, maybe you should pull that up in front of you right now and just read people headlines.

02:33:41.000 Of course, it would take hours.

02:33:43.000 But I mean, they admittedly issue fake alerts, folks.

02:33:46.000 That is the definition of terrorism.

02:33:49.000 Scaring people to get what you want politically out of them.

02:33:52.000 Yeah, I mean, here's the archive.

02:33:54.000 Terrorists on Ash Cross wanted list already in jail.

02:33:57.000 Macedonia staged terrorist killings to win US support, which is what Uzbekistan does, as I spoke about earlier. 1.00

02:34:04.000 CIA fake German terror alert.

02:34:05.000 France finds no evidence of hijacked plot.

02:34:08.000 ABC news suicide bomber threat turns out to be false.

02:34:11.000 Bin Laden videos compilation repeats that he's expert.

02:34:14.000 Bin Laden tape is old material.

02:34:17.000 Bin Laden's right-hand man in new videotape, Alza Wahari, was arrested 18 months ago.

02:34:23.000 Some U.S.

02:34:24.000 attack threats fabricated, terror alerts manufactured.

02:34:28.000 terror alert a hoax, Bin Laden tape a fake, another dubious Bin Laden tape.

02:34:28.000 U.S.

02:34:34.000 Pakistan arrest Al-Qaeda poses, Palestinian story, which is where the Mossad Israeli intelligence created a fake Al-Qaeda group.

02:34:43.000 And then, um, you know, the FBI, the White House, scripting, hysterics, so it's all there.

02:34:48.000 I mean, that archive hasn't actually been updated in a while, which we're doing at the moment, so that's just going up to the middle of last year.

02:34:56.000 We've had so much more since.

02:34:58.000 Let's spend a little more time on Gladio.

02:35:00.000 what the foundation of the mechanism of tyranny is based on.

02:35:04.000 And it owes its historical roots to things like Gladio and Operation Northwoods, which are now admitted and proven.

02:35:10.000 Now let's spend a little more time on Gladio.

02:35:12.000 The listeners know about Northwoods, the official U.S. government.

02:35:15.000 government terror plan to hijack jets by remote control, crash and bomb D.C., commit sniper attacks, attack Marine Corps bases with our own troops dressed up like foreigners, to blame it on foreign enemies.

02:35:26.000 We know about that, but some people really don't know about Gladio.

02:35:29.000 I mention it, show a few news articles about it in the Masters of Terror, but I mean, this is public, this is admitted, this is as big as Northwoods.

02:35:39.000 Tell folks about it.

02:35:41.000 Well, yeah, the main thing about Gladio is that It was portrayed as being set up by the right-wing governments of Italy and Spain, but you go back to the foundation of it, which is in the documents on the National Security Archive and the Pentagon Field Manual, and it was set up by T2 Money, which was an organization tied into the CIA, and it was an umbrella operation of the CIA, as the documents came out and stated.

02:36:08.000 And it was a program to discredit the left-wing groups at the time by carrying out terrorist attacks and then blaming them on left-wing and communist groups.

02:36:19.000 And in most, in every case, they were soft targets.

02:36:23.000 Trains, the train station in Bologna got attacked.

02:36:26.000 Eighty-plus people died.

02:36:28.000 Schools, assassinations, kidnappings, murders.

02:36:32.000 And it was designed to make people put their trust in the strong men of the time.

02:36:37.000 That was the very basis of the program, and it's what they said they did it for, in their own words, and the agents who were involved in it... Now, about three years ago, this came out in the Associated Press, and the Guardian, and the head of the Italian intelligence agency said, yeah, the government did carry this out, but it was under US and British orders, and they would actually do the bombing for us.

02:36:59.000 And there's one particular quote in there by the head of the Intelligence Agency.

02:37:03.000 Read that quote to folks, of why he said they were carrying out these attacks.

02:37:08.000 I haven't got it in front of me, but I can find it in a second.

02:37:11.000 Yeah, we read it in the first hour, but it's... This is really important stuff, because here is the establishment, just again, and I talked about this the last few months, I heard Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of the President, who ran the operation overthrowing Mozedek.

02:37:27.000 They said they want democracy in the Middle East.

02:37:30.000 Mozedek was anti-communist, pro-West, he'd thrown the communists out.

02:37:34.000 He said you could have 75% of the oil money.

02:37:36.000 They said, no, we want 98%.

02:37:39.000 He said, no way, my people need this money for our own oil.

02:37:42.000 You know, he was a secular leader, and they hired 2,000 thugs for several weeks, blew up mosques, machine gun people, cheering up with Mosaddegh, up with communism, and then the people overthrew Mosaddegh, they put in the Shah, and folks, It is admitted. 0.82

02:38:00.000 They got on the air, the people that did it, they were proud of themselves and they admit it on national radio.

02:38:06.000 Yes, we did it and we're proud of it and look at the great job we did.

02:38:10.000 I mean, killing people and blaming it on someone.

02:38:13.000 Folks, have you figured this out yet, Paul?

02:38:16.000 Yeah, I've got the quotes here.

02:38:18.000 The Italian Senate did an investigation in 2000 and concluded that The 1980 bombing of the Bologna train station had been carried out by men inside Italian state institutions and men linked to the structures of United States intelligence.

02:38:35.000 One of the agents in Gladio who later testified said, quote, you had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people, far removed from any political game.

02:38:47.000 The reason was quite simple, to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.

02:38:53.000 And then the Pentagon Field Manual FM 3031B U.S.

02:38:59.000 Army intelligence must have the means of launching special operations which will convince host country governments and public opinion of the reality of the insurgent danger.

02:39:09.000 Naturally, these peace-throttling special operations must remain strictly secret, the document warns.

02:39:16.000 So that was the genesis of it, and the rhetoric is similar to Operation Northwoods, which called for carrying out terrorist attacks to be blamed then on Cuba, to rally public opinion against Cuba, to create a war on Cuba.

02:39:30.000 So that was its genesis to Northwoods.

02:39:33.000 And again, they sell the people that carry this out.

02:39:35.000 Man, we're fighting commies!

02:39:37.000 Meanwhile, our own government was funding all the top communists.

02:39:40.000 That's now admitted.

02:39:41.000 Fortune 500 moves to China. 0.98

02:39:43.000 And then today it's, we've got to fight the Muslims. 1.00

02:39:45.000 They're deadly. 1.00

02:39:47.000 Meanwhile, the terror attacks are coming from the globalists.

02:39:51.000 And Paul, you know, I really feel in my gut they're getting ready for big attacks.

02:39:55.000 Do you think it's going to be in Europe?

02:39:57.000 Do you think it's going to be here in the U.S.?

02:39:58.000 Or do you think it's not coming?

02:39:59.000 I mean, how do we stop them is the second question.

02:40:02.000 I don't think it's coming this year, I think it'll mainly be next year.

02:40:07.000 You'll probably see soft target attacks in the Midwest, USA.

02:40:12.000 That whole scripted movie thing in California where Schwarzenegger comes to the rescue is something I'm sure they'd love to do.

02:40:20.000 So, it's going to be over the next two years definitely, but I mean the positive news is that we've backed them off three and a half years, approaching four years since 9-11 from carrying out anything major.

02:40:32.000 And that's solely down to us.

02:40:33.000 It's solely down to them seeing the polls, seeing that, you know, 50% of New Yorkers believe that they were involved in 9-11, which is why they're having to resort to fear-mongering about these soft targets now, because there's less likelihood of them getting caught if they carry out these operations on a smaller scale.

02:40:51.000 Well, definitely.

02:40:52.000 It will go smaller scale.

02:40:54.000 They'll probably try and turn America into Israel, where basically everything is under secure command. 0.97

02:41:01.000 You've got troops on the streets because you've got bus bombings, soft target attacks every other week.

02:41:06.000 So, that's probably the way they're headed now. 1.00

02:41:08.000 And by the way, there are real useful idiot Muslim groups who don't like Christians, don't like Jews, don't like anybody. 1.00

02:41:17.000 But by and large, and this is for Rot's Jerusalem Post, Huge Al-Qaeda teams are really young Palestinians, captured when they're young, tortured, then trained and paid by Israeli Shin Bet and Assad, and they've been caught carrying out bombings, folks. 0.99

02:41:35.000 That's mainstream Israeli news.

02:41:38.000 That's not coming from us.

02:41:40.000 Well, that was actually in Reuters.

02:41:43.000 The Palestinians arrested Um, a so-called Hamas group, terrorist group, and it turned out to be a Mossad front.

02:41:54.000 Same case with the so-called Al-Qaeda group, which also turned out to be a Mossad front.

02:41:58.000 So, I mean, you've got the history there. 0.99

02:42:00.000 You've also got it where our government and others fund, and you'll have one of the Muslim leaders who's a government agent, who just lives for decade after decade, that's what Barry Hamish will tell you, and then, you know, he never gets killed, but then his useful idiots go out and really do carry out bombings. 0.99

02:42:17.000 Yeah, I mean, you've had cases in Britain. 0.93

02:42:20.000 Where the so-called leader of the Al-Qaeda European network was protected in an MI5 safe house for years, was never charged with anything.

02:42:30.000 So I mean, you've got the people being arrested in Britain, so-called terrorism being contacted by MI5 weeks before their so-called arrest, almost like they're taxis, again being brought out to try and convince the British people that, you know, that these people running around their back gardens Well, let me ask you a question.

02:42:51.000 Why do you think they say they've captured Al Savari, uh, what, four times?

02:42:57.000 They've killed him once.

02:42:59.000 And then they never discredit the last report.

02:43:01.000 They never say we were wrong. 0.91

02:43:03.000 No, they just capture or kill him again and again.

02:43:06.000 Why do they do that?

02:43:07.000 Why don't they change names or make more boogeymen? 1.00

02:43:09.000 I mean, is it like an inside joke that people are so dumb they don't even notice that? 0.99

02:43:14.000 Well, it could be an inside joke. 0.99

02:43:17.000 It could be many different arms of the same intelligence bureaus playing games with each other.

02:43:22.000 There was another report of al-Zarqawi being captured on Friday in Iraq.

02:43:28.000 And so, if he has been captured, if he's still alive, I mean, we were told he was killed, what, back in 2002, MSNBC.

02:43:36.000 Again, they'll use it as a sad overstatement.

02:43:38.000 And they killed chemical Ali twice.

02:43:40.000 Now they say they've captured him.

02:43:42.000 Are they going to try Saddam's cousin?

02:43:45.000 Well, exactly.

02:43:45.000 And they showed us wax figurines of the Saddam's sons.

02:43:49.000 And said, wax figurines.

02:43:51.000 What do you think?

02:43:53.000 Well, I mean, I'm just waiting for Jaffa Arafat to pop back up. 0.69

02:43:56.000 It's gotten so crazy.

02:43:58.000 And then they'll say he never died and we never said he died.

02:44:01.000 And that's the equivalent, yeah.

02:44:04.000 Adolf Hitler, maybe. 0.75

02:44:04.000 I don't know. 0.75

02:44:06.000 Or Goldstein from 1984.

02:44:08.000 I mean, the question is, why do they do that?

02:44:11.000 I don't really... It doesn't make sense.

02:44:13.000 Well, why do they...

02:44:15.000 Well, maybe there are... We know with Saddam Hussein, he had at least, what, three, four look-alikes. 0.94

02:44:21.000 Maybe they've created look-alikes for Al-Zarqawi as well.

02:44:23.000 We had the fat bin Laden, who's obviously not him again, another look-alike. 1.00

02:44:27.000 So maybe they're just, um, capturing look-alikes.

02:44:31.000 Well, if that guy's a look-alike, then I'm a bin Laden look-alike. 0.89

02:44:35.000 Or you are.

02:44:37.000 I look nothing like him.

02:44:39.000 And they did the voice print that wasn't him.

02:44:41.000 Oh boy.

02:44:42.000 Paul, it just gets crazier and crazier. 1.00

02:44:47.000 These people are lunatics. 1.00

02:44:49.000 Total lunatics. 1.00

02:44:51.000 Well, you have to remember that, what was it, Mark Twain. 0.96

02:44:56.000 You know, if you don't tell a lie, you don't have to remember anything.

02:44:59.000 So these people have lied so often that in the effect of covering up their own lies, they're tripping over themselves each time making mistakes.

02:45:08.000 Um, you know, things like Colin Powell saying that the Bin Laden video is on Al Jazeera, and then it pops up two hours later.

02:45:15.000 I mean, if you lie so often, then you're going to make mistakes, and these people have made mistakes in public speeches and in actions over the course of the past.

02:45:22.000 Yeah, Rumsfeld has said twice, he said twice they shot down Flight 93.

02:45:26.000 Then his head envoy, the former governor of Massachusetts, goes up to Canada and says they shot it down.

02:45:33.000 I mean, it's incredible, but no one calls it on him.

02:45:37.000 I mean, Bush says this is a scripted press conference, and then the transcript says unscripted press conference.

02:45:45.000 Well, I mean, they can't trust Bush with anything nowadays.

02:45:47.000 I mean, he came out with the golden piece of hypocrisy where he said that Lebanon could never become a democracy or have freedom while foreign troops are stationed there.

02:45:59.000 Iraq, anyone?

02:46:01.000 Now let me ask you a question, Paul.

02:46:02.000 I don't want to get into Princess Diana.

02:46:04.000 We have just Total open borders, total amnesty, massive gun control coming down from the Republicans, national ID cards, Pan American Union ID cards, 2.6 trillion dollar budgets, you know, dwarfing Bill Clinton's biggest, just wild corruption, wild Halliburton scamming that makes Martha Stewart look like an archangel. 0.99

02:46:30.000 We've got all this going on And still, I tune into Neocon Radio and there's no word of it.

02:46:37.000 And I talk to so-called conservatives on the streets and they're the only people that literally drool and just go, I love Bush!

02:46:46.000 Well, I mean, they bought into the philosophy that the neocons practice their policy with.

02:46:51.000 It's the Straussian philosophy, the noble lie.

02:46:54.000 They can lie, and lie, and lie, and then it doesn't affect them.

02:46:58.000 They can carry on, carry out the same policies with the same lies backing them up, but it's for this greater cause, so none of it matters.

02:47:06.000 And the neocons, uh, people on talk radio have bought into that, so they go along with the same mindset.

02:47:12.000 Which is why you'll still get people claiming that they found the weapons of mass destruction.

02:47:16.000 Again, it's the noble lie to back up the greater cause.

02:47:19.000 So, I mean, they're all part of the same power structure, mentally.

02:47:23.000 Or you'll hear them say that they never said there were WMDs.

02:47:27.000 That's one of their favorites.

02:47:28.000 We never said that.

02:47:28.000 It was about elections.

02:47:30.000 Well, no, you did say that.

02:47:31.000 No, we didn't! 1.00

02:47:32.000 Shut up, communists! 1.00

02:47:35.000 I mean, they changed positions. 1.00

02:47:38.000 Every day, basically, on every issue, the total opposite.

02:47:42.000 Where, to the point that people just get sick of it and tune off.

02:47:45.000 That's mainly one of their strategies, is just to confuse people, bombard people with this garbage every day that people just turn off and go watch the football game because they can't keep up with it.

02:47:59.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

02:48:00.000 When we get back, I want to just briefly plug the new video and talk about Princess Diana.

02:48:05.000 There's been a new development with Princess Diana.

02:48:07.000 Go ahead and give us the front of it.

02:48:10.000 Well, yeah, again, it's the media with their hot tip, which in every case acts as a diversion to focus people's attention away from the real smoking guns.

02:48:19.000 Um, and it's about how the cars were switched and that the car that she was supposed to be in wasn't used on the night, which I was on this show talking about in October 2003.

02:48:30.000 So it's not really new news, but we can get into why the media are focusing on that and not focusing on the real issue.

02:48:36.000 Well, I mean, Diana said, Charles told me he's gonna kill me and it's gonna be made to look like an auto accident.

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02:53:21.000 Paul, real quick, I want to take one call from Umar in Michigan, who's been holding forever.

02:53:26.000 Tell us the latest developments with Princess Diana.

02:53:29.000 Yeah, well we have these memos surrounding the death of Diana being released after the British government got caught shredding thousands of documents before they had to release them.

02:53:39.000 Here comes the astounding revelation that the original car in which Diana was supposed to be travelling in was switched and a substitute Mercedes was used instead, which we were talking about a year and a half ago.

02:53:51.000 What they won't highlight, which is a key point, is that the second car was stolen a week prior to the crash and tampered with, according to the original investigation.

02:54:03.000 A computer chip from the car was missing and the experts at the time said that the electronic system could have been replaced with a unit pre-programmed to automatically alter the car's acceleration and braking systems.

02:54:17.000 Which, um, dovetails with a 92 MI6 plot to assassinate Slobodan Milosevic, where the car would be controlled by remote access and made to crash.

02:54:28.000 So all the focus is on the first car, when it's the second car, the crash car, that should be investigated.

02:54:34.000 But of course, um, that car- Then she was alive in the back of the car, and they're leaning over her for an hour, and the ambulance drives 30 miles an hour, and she said, Prince Charles told me he's gonna kill me in a fake auto accident.

02:54:47.000 Yeah, in order to clear the path for him to remarry Camilla Parker Bowles, which they made that announcement last month.

02:54:53.000 Alright, let's take a call.

02:54:55.000 Umar in Michigan.

02:54:56.000 Last caller, go ahead.

02:54:58.000 Yeah, my question was actually for Detective Rothstein, but maybe you and Carl might know something about it.

02:55:04.000 The satanic Atlanta child killer and how the whole nature of the investigation changed after George Bush Sr.

02:55:14.000 got involved with it.

02:55:16.000 I had heard about that, but I don't know the details.

02:55:19.000 All right.

02:55:20.000 When we tried to go to you earlier, you weren't there, so I'm sorry we didn't get you.

02:55:25.000 Oh, that's okay.

02:55:26.000 All right, then.

02:55:27.000 Thanks a lot.

02:55:28.000 All right.

02:55:28.000 Appreciate your call, sir.

02:55:30.000 Paul, you got the last 60 seconds.

02:55:32.000 What else you got for us?

02:55:34.000 Just the thing about the Rockstar Heathrow Airport.

02:55:38.000 Um, he was wearing a t-shirt with a graphic representation of a gun with a flame coming out the top of it.

02:55:45.000 Um, they said he was not allowed to fly, they said he was not allowed to wear that kind of thing.

02:55:49.000 So now it's coming down to, um, clothing is, um, a sign of potential terrorist threat in airports.

02:55:57.000 It's getting that bad.

02:56:00.000 Well, it's symbols, it's words, it's people that write fiction articles about zombies, and we have to arrest you. 0.98

02:56:06.000 You're a terrorist.

02:56:08.000 You didn't list any names, but your life's over. 0.98

02:56:11.000 It's a new freedom.

02:56:13.000 Slavery.

02:56:15.000 It's about what you think and not what you do.

02:56:17.000 And it's about pre-crime.

02:56:19.000 But it's about keeping the borders wide open, Paul.

02:56:21.000 That's right.

02:56:22.000 Alright, thanks for joining us, Paul Watson.

02:56:24.000 Thanks.

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02:56:27.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:29.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2 central.

Alex Jones Show - March 16, 2005

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