Alex Jones Show - 20050411_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. - ladies and gentlemen. - Long.

00:00:39.000 It is Monday, but already the 11th day of April, 2005, and we'll be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:48.000 Dr. Nick Begich will be joining us to talk about, well, just the New World Order's different military activities and some of the secret weapon systems they've developed, and what's happening with the environment, and a lot more coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:01:07.000 So again, Dr. Nick Begich, talk about the heart program and so much more, chemtrails, you name it, coming up here in about 30 minutes.

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00:01:29.000 Debate!

00:01:30.000 Is a law needed to ban microchip implants in humans?

00:01:36.000 This out-of-the-journal Times mainstream publication, Representative Marlon Schindler, doesn't want government getting under your skin.

00:01:49.000 The Wisconsin Rapids Democrat is introducing a bill that would prohibit anyone, including the government and employers, from requiring microchip implants in people.

00:02:00.000 And why is he doing it?

00:02:01.000 Because Mexico and other governments are now attempting to force their employees to take the chip.

00:02:08.000 And they say, well, it's not forced, you just won't have a job here anymore.

00:02:14.000 But it violates your basic rights.

00:02:15.000 It's like the drug testing.

00:02:17.000 Well, you don't have to have a job here.

00:02:20.000 And the Pentagon comes by every week and takes the samples for us as part of a public service.

00:02:25.000 You know, that's been going on for at least five years.

00:02:29.000 I have it on tape from Army News Watch, aired here locally.

00:02:32.000 Nationally produced.

00:02:34.000 But there they are, the Army during the newscast says, we'll send by our representatives, take the samples.

00:02:41.000 It's for free!

00:02:43.000 It's part of infrastructure protection.

00:02:45.000 Drug use hurts America.

00:02:47.000 Our job is defending America.

00:02:50.000 See, getting involved in everyday life.

00:02:51.000 You didn't know that was going on?

00:02:52.000 I have to mention that a couple times a year that that's going on.

00:02:57.000 But the move is on.

00:02:59.000 You've got to have a microchip if you want to be in this line of work.

00:03:04.000 So we'll talk about that article.

00:03:06.000 Very interesting.

00:03:07.000 Also, you know last week, the IMF came out and said, oh yeah, oil's going to be $100 a barrel.

00:03:13.000 And in 2010, we're running out of oil.

00:03:21.000 And did we mention to you that we're controlled by the big oil companies and that we're a bunch of scamming criminals?

00:03:28.000 Our own documents have been made public three years ago that we create artificial scarcity.

00:03:33.000 We even have documents that are now public that explain how we run this scam.

00:03:37.000 But you'll ignore that, especially in the controlled left.

00:03:41.000 You'll run around promoting this conspiracy theory.

00:03:47.000 And of course Goldman Sachs, who stood to make a bunch of money out of announcing that oil could hit over $10 a gallon, suddenly all of these peak oil people are going, see?

00:04:02.000 See?

00:04:03.000 We told you so!

00:04:03.000 See?

00:04:04.000 No, no, we told you so!

00:04:07.000 We told you that they were going to have the IMF and World Bank and OPEC and our own government Announce there's no oil so they can gouge the living daylights out of us.

00:04:20.000 We went over this.

00:04:21.000 I mean, look, you don't see Rolling Stone doing cover stories on how there's no oil left.

00:04:25.000 Now it's going to have to be martial law to keep us safe.

00:04:29.000 Oh, now we need martial law! 0.91

00:04:35.000 So I want to talk about this.

00:04:38.000 There is just so much, so much more Coming up in the next 2 hours and 55 minutes, but I am going to talk some about peak oil, peak scam.

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00:08:07.000 The average gas price in this country is $2.00.

00:08:20.000 Some places they're paying as much as $3.50 a gallon.

00:08:29.000 Now, ten years ago in Europe they were paying $4 a gallon if you converted over to dollars.

00:08:36.000 Why were they paying $4 and we were paying $1?

00:08:40.000 Because their governments chose to tax them Upwards of 75% of the cost of fuel being taxation.

00:08:50.000 Petrol, as they call it.

00:08:54.000 Why is diesel in this country, in many cases, costing even more than regular unleaded gasoline, when diesel is much easier to distill?

00:09:08.000 Because they're running a scam.

00:09:12.000 And I am so busy working so hard that I have not had time to write a detailed treatise and really a manifesto exposing the peak oil crowd.

00:09:28.000 All the evidence is right here in front of me.

00:09:31.000 I literally have hundreds of documents in mainstream and alternative news reports.

00:09:37.000 I have Just scores of reports about giant oil fields being found all over the planet on a monthly basis?

00:09:48.000 I have the different oil discoveries even going back into the fifties off the coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Mexico, Alaska, Russia, the Bering Sea, the Indian Ocean.

00:10:04.000 Oil is everywhere!

00:10:08.000 But a lot of people don't want to hear the facts.

00:10:12.000 They don't want to understand what's really happening.

00:10:14.000 So let me just first give you a key piece of evidence up front before I jump into this and then get into other news reports here, like a law being proposed to make it illegal for businesses and the government to force you to take implantable microchips.

00:10:31.000 This is from the Journal Times, mainstream news.

00:10:35.000 Because Applied Digital and others are proposing having to have it to fly on an airplane to track you with your luggage.

00:10:41.000 The Mexican government has made hundreds of members of its Justice Department take the chips to be able to go to work and get into secure areas.

00:10:51.000 There's discussions of making our military take it.

00:10:54.000 This is very, very serious.

00:10:55.000 Discussions of making prisoners take it.

00:10:57.000 In fact, two years ago a deal was signed with the Bureau of Prisons in California That was in Reuters, and then once it went public, they cancelled it.

00:11:06.000 So they'd like to do this, and it is 2005, we're back to the future, this is real, and it sounds bizarre, but it's happening.

00:11:16.000 And I've just got a giant stack of other important news, but let me cover peak oil first, because this is really important, and I've been talking about this for years, and I said I had an open mind, I was researching it, but I went over the facts that I was leaning towards it being a complete fraud, Number one, because it follows the classic scam or racket of the New World Order.

00:11:44.000 Now after literally hundreds of hours of studying this, if not more, I can definitively, and now I've got to put it all down on paper and hundreds of links and declare my war on the peak oil scammers, Because this is really a jewel in the crown of the New World Order's neo-feudalist program.

00:12:09.000 Now I've got to spend the time to expose it.

00:12:13.000 Who knows, I might even make a film about it.

00:12:17.000 But again, there's just so many issues, so many topics I want to cover.

00:12:21.000 It makes my head spin trying to even put it all on the table.

00:12:26.000 I mean, there's so much evidence of this fraud.

00:12:29.000 So much evidence of this duplicitous scam.

00:12:35.000 But let's just talk about how the New World Order operates.

00:12:37.000 Number one, they confuse us with phony left-right debates.

00:12:42.000 Whereas Hillary Clinton and Chuckie Schumer are all voting identically with George Bush on open borders, war, gun control, The general public doesn't know that because the controlled media does a good job of acting like there's some type of fight or debate going on.

00:13:03.000 And so people think that the IMF and World Bank and the top 100 corporations on this planet, they think that they're free market.

00:13:13.000 They think that they want good business and want a high standard of living.

00:13:20.000 When their own documents show they want consolidation and control, a neo-feudalist world empire, where the corporations become the government of the hundred top corporations in the world, 45 of them are in the top 100 economies.

00:13:40.000 That is, out of a hundred Top economies in the world, 45 of them are companies, are corporations.

00:13:52.000 And now through, quote, the scam of privatization, which is not privatization, the corporations that operate as organized crime syndicates, as mafias, have paid off the politicians and governments, gotten the laws written to literally make these top corporations governments in full.

00:14:13.000 Owning and running the highways, making them all toll roads.

00:14:17.000 Forcibly, psychologically testing and drugging your children.

00:14:20.000 Owning their giant private prisons that are popping up like mushrooms after a spring rain.

00:14:26.000 Being constructed everywhere.

00:14:28.000 Owning and controlling the private military, and owning the government, and having that government order attacks on sovereign nations, and then handing over The resources and the populations themselves of those third world nations to those select corporations.

00:14:46.000 So we've got the general public trying to make political decisions trying to decipher what's going on in the world without even having the proper terms.

00:14:55.000 And that's really the biggest problem.

00:14:59.000 And so we look at peak oil.

00:15:03.000 We have the IMF World Bank documents released just days after Joseph Siklitz, the Chief Economist at the World Bank, quit in 2002.

00:15:15.000 Over 2,000 pages of documents.

00:15:17.000 Greg Palast at the BBC first got the documents and broke the news.

00:15:21.000 And he's published the documents and reported on them.

00:15:25.000 They actually give the example of Argentina.

00:15:31.000 Well, Argentina's gone along with our model.

00:15:33.000 They've, quote, privatized.

00:15:34.000 They've handed over most of their resources to select corporations.

00:15:43.000 Now we're going to implode their economy, tell the people it's their fault.

00:15:49.000 We're going to, now that we own their water and their fuel and their infrastructure, we're going to turn off the services, and they said it will only take one week

00:16:01.000 to two weeks because total riots and they call it the IMF riot in the documents they talk about how they've done this in other countries they say the people will not accept a tripling in their water prices but if we turn their water off and tell them there's no water then they will freak out and when we finally turn it back on they'll just be thankful for it and pay triple for the water out of the gates

00:16:31.000 Now simultaneously, even before these documents came out, even before Argentina plunged into darkness, this is very important.

00:16:47.000 I was reading UN documents where they were saying there's not going to be any oil soon.

00:16:52.000 There's not going to be any water, fresh water soon.

00:16:55.000 There's not going to be any farmland soon.

00:16:58.000 We've got to protect what's left.

00:16:59.000 We've got to put people forcibly into those cities and give the land to corporations that can manage it more wisely. 0.97

00:17:06.000 On and on and on.

00:17:07.000 It's an excuse for this criminal mafia to come in and steal.

00:17:12.000 We have the De Beers model with the Oppenheimers. 0.79

00:17:15.000 The world diamond monopoly.

00:17:17.000 It's been on PBS.

00:17:18.000 They admit it.

00:17:19.000 Giant warehouses with huge bins full of diamonds.

00:17:23.000 Five feet deep.

00:17:25.000 Huge warehouses full of diamonds.

00:17:26.000 Diamonds are hardly even on the scale of semi-precious.

00:17:30.000 They're on the lower end of semi-precious, but because De Beers has an army, a private army, even New Yorker magazines reported, where they'll send in thousands of special forces private troops to slaughter whole villages and go after people, they have a world diamond monopoly.

00:17:46.000 And so you'll pay $10,000, $8,000 for a little diamond ring so your woman feels like you love her when you get engaged to her.

00:17:57.000 And everybody knows, who's got any history or any facts, it is admitted diamonds aren't even hardly, they're right on the bottom of the spectrum of semi-precious.

00:18:07.000 They're hardly semi-precious.

00:18:10.000 But they are the most precious stone because they say they are.

00:18:14.000 Because they have a monopoly.

00:18:15.000 Five companies now control 95% of world oil production and now they're in the process of merging down to four and then three in the next year.

00:18:29.000 And their publications, their control systems, their IMF, their World Bank, their UN, publications like Rolling Stone, their phony left-wing so-called grassroots blogs, their little bought-and-paid-for blogs that are out there telling you there's no oil left, it is a scam.

00:18:48.000 If oil prices have dropped per barrel back to 53, why are you still going to pay more?

00:18:56.000 It's just like the oil crisis of the seventies.

00:18:58.000 That's admitted to be a fraud.

00:19:00.000 It's admitted there was plenty of oil, but they had to train you to accept a massive increase. 0.97

00:19:07.000 And so while we fight this, we're going to have phony grassroots organizations and their useful idiot camp followers running around telling us there's no oil. 0.96

00:19:18.000 Beating the drum for sustainable development, i.e. 0.99

00:19:22.000 letting their corporate masters steal more private property.

00:19:27.000 And I can go over all the evidence of how much oil there is, and they're finding all these new fields, all of it, but I... And I'm going to take the time, I'm going to put it together for you.

00:19:39.000 You can check out the facts for yourself, and I hope you'll spread the word on it, but... It's just such a scam.

00:19:48.000 And now the IMF, oh, who the liberals will tell you are evil, But, Moe, but they're good this time.

00:19:54.000 Oh, we can trust them.

00:19:56.000 There's no oil.

00:19:57.000 The bankers told us so.

00:19:58.000 We'll be back.

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00:24:17.000 And later I'm going to get more into peak oil and how it's a total scam.

00:24:21.000 But here's the IMF.

00:24:24.000 I mean, we have the Henry Kissinger documents where the IMF ordered the third world to sterilize forcibly half their women or no more loans.

00:24:33.000 And these are loans where they take our tax money And give it to these third world countries, openly pay off the dictator, not to pay off the loans, the dictator retires, hands over all of the resources to these criminals. 0.61

00:24:48.000 I mean, we're going to have Wolfowitz running the World Bank.

00:24:53.000 I mean, the World Bank and IMF are like two legs on the same ogre.

00:24:58.000 Run by the same people.

00:25:00.000 Here's another example.

00:25:01.000 They say Iraq owes 200 billion dollars for the great liberation we've given them.

00:25:07.000 And they've got four trillion in oil.

00:25:10.000 Conservatively undiscovered oil fields in the country.

00:25:14.000 And now they're setting up, quote, privatizations of the World Bank, and they're saying now in their reports, oh, Iraq will never get out of this debt.

00:25:22.000 Oh, really?

00:25:23.000 They could sell 200 billion in a year easy.

00:25:25.000 They could be out of debt in one year, even if we believed this debt was real.

00:25:28.000 But no, sorry, you'll never be out of debt!

00:25:33.000 And there's no oil either!

00:25:37.000 But the IMF says so, and so all these groups are out there crowing.

00:25:41.000 No, no, no.

00:25:42.000 We should be crowing.

00:25:43.000 Our poor thought and understanding.

00:25:47.000 Because I said you're going to have the UN, the IMF, all of them pushing this.

00:25:50.000 They already were.

00:25:51.000 But now they're pushing it big time.

00:25:53.000 You're paying more for oil because there's none of it left!

00:25:57.000 That's made up!

00:26:00.000 There's enough oil in one area of Alaska to run this country for 100 years, conservative numbers.

00:26:05.000 There's enough to run the entire globe in one 600 square mile area off the coast of Louisiana that the U.S. 0.98

00:26:13.000 government will not allow exploration of.

00:26:15.000 In one area, easy to get to, the same amount of oil as has been used by humans on this planet in the last 100 years since the oil age began.

00:26:27.000 Before that it was whale oil, which is certainly not renewable.

00:26:34.000 And at the right they were killing whales, and I'm firmly against killing whales for their oil, or for their bones, so you can have a nice umbrella.

00:26:44.000 The IMF said that rising living standards in China and the rest of the developing world will keep oil prices sky high for decades to come, with even $100 a barrel not ruled out.

00:26:56.000 Goldman Sachs says, well that's going to be much worse than that.

00:26:59.000 Meanwhile, they make money off of the futures.

00:27:02.000 There they are, involved in oil futures.

00:27:05.000 Total public insider trading.

00:27:07.000 Manipulating the price as they bet with put options right before this happened.

00:27:11.000 I mean, it is so transparent.

00:27:17.000 But they're smart.

00:27:18.000 Just look, they've got fake blogs.

00:27:20.000 With Jeff Gannon and, you know, fake groups that go testify before James Baker and the Election Commission.

00:27:28.000 You got the guy who ran the election scams in Florida, sitting as the head of the commission, and then they even have GOP operatives as fake grassroots groups coming forward and saying, I love electronic voting!

00:27:39.000 Don't violate our rights!

00:27:40.000 Give it to us!

00:27:41.000 The media goes, look at this independent group!

00:27:44.000 It's the same thing with this.

00:27:45.000 They got all their little minion groups out there.

00:27:49.000 Promoting this, and it's twice yearly World Economic Outlook International Monetary Fund predicted that in 2030 the average price of a barrel of oil would stand in the range of $39 to $56 in real terms.

00:28:04.000 In normal terms, without adjusting for inflation, the price would be $67 to $96 it said, owing to exploding demand for cars in countries such as China and India spend their newfound wealth.

00:28:20.000 And they went on to say that they believe the exploration of oil will not meet demand.

00:28:26.000 Fears of an economic crunch have intensified with oil prices up at around 40% since the start of the year to surpass $58 a barrel for the first time.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, and if you look at the last year, oil prices were up almost 90%.

00:28:39.000 But the last 3-4 months, yeah, they're up 40%.

00:28:41.000 three four months yeah they're up 40 percent IMF chief Rodrigo Rato warned this week that high prices would have been between 0.25 and 0.5 percentage points off global economic growth this year Now I gotta tell ya, frankly, the real reason oil prices have gone up, it's not even oil company profit taking.

00:29:08.000 Though they're all registering record profits.

00:29:10.000 But that's a small part of it.

00:29:13.000 And then using that money to buy up everything else they hadn't already bought.

00:29:16.000 And to buy more media, and more fake newscasts, and the rest of it, and to buy up other competitor oil companies, little stragglers.

00:29:25.000 The real reason is inflation.

00:29:28.000 The dollar has plunged in value 45 plus percent.

00:29:35.000 And so, you're going to see an increase in oil prices.

00:29:37.000 So, half of it is inflation, and the other part is oil companies scamming.

00:29:45.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:57.000 They have to give their orders out in written form.

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00:34:02.000 Peak oil is a total fraud.

00:34:04.000 It is part of artificial scarcity.

00:34:06.000 And it's designed to keep us from going to the new alternative energy sources they've had for decades.

00:34:11.000 We're going to talk about that with Dr. Nick Begich.

00:34:13.000 Who?

00:34:15.000 I instinctively knew he would agree with me.

00:34:16.000 I didn't ask him before we set up as a guest if he agreed.

00:34:19.000 I didn't even tell him what the topic was.

00:34:20.000 I just talked to him during the break and, well, he agrees with me.

00:34:24.000 Because anybody who's got a brain, who's looked at the facts, who knows the evidence, and he's up in Alaska.

00:34:28.000 His father was a congressman who studied these matters as well.

00:34:31.000 He knows all the scams.

00:34:32.000 We're going to be talking about that.

00:34:34.000 But I originally got him on to talk about tsunami bombs.

00:34:38.000 Here's the headline.

00:34:39.000 Now, this was first reported by PrisonPlanet.com.

00:34:42.000 We dug up uh... the nineteen fifties news articles then it was picked up by australian newspapers and now a month later uh... more than that two months later you heard me talk about it on Alan Cohn's show I'm not tooting our horn it's just that I wish World Lent Daily would give us some credit U.S.

00:34:58.000 Intel once considered causing huge quake World War II era top secret project talked of producing tsunami with an A-bomb and I remember Dr. Baggage talking about stuff like this back in 1999 And then coming on the show in 2000 and talking about it.

00:35:14.000 So he really deserves some credit, writing several books on this subject.

00:35:19.000 And I'm not saying the government did this, but I am saying that even Secretary of Defense Cohen in 1997 admits this stuff exists.

00:35:26.000 So we'll talk about this, we'll talk about HAARP, we'll talk about Ariel Sprang, Kim Trailing, we'll talk about it all with who I consider to be one of the leading experts.

00:35:35.000 And I was getting him on about all those issues, but then I just went on this whole 30 minute rant before Dr. Bagich joined us talking about peak oil because the IMF is pushing that fraud and got a chance to talk to him during the break and he concurred and has even more info for us.

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00:39:31.000 Now let's shift gears back to our guest.

00:39:35.000 He's been holding patiently, Dr. Nick Begich.

00:39:38.000 And, Doctor, you haven't been on the show in about a year.

00:39:40.000 Most people have heard you, though, on other talk shows or on Coast to Coast.

00:39:44.000 But, just in a nutshell, in a thumbnail, tell us about yourself and your journey seeking the truth and about your website and some of your newest publications.

00:39:53.000 Sure.

00:39:54.000 I'm a doctor in traditional and complementary medicines.

00:39:57.000 And my main emphasis the last 11 years has been Essentially, researching new technologies and really documenting the academic research in those areas and then bringing it forward to the public.

00:40:09.000 I also have worked for a number of years as past president of the Alaska Federation of Teachers for a couple of terms, Anchorage Council of Education for a couple of terms.

00:40:19.000 I've been active in politics most of my adult life in this part of the world.

00:40:23.000 My family is totally integrated.

00:40:25.000 in Alaskan politics from my father's work.

00:40:28.000 My brothers both are engaged in political activity here as well.

00:40:31.000 And, you know, my main emphasis, again, over the last few years, has been really digging into these topics and then documenting them in a way that transfers, you know, what is normally complex scientific information into really just plain English.

00:40:46.000 I mean, these concepts are not difficult.

00:40:49.000 Maybe designing some of the technologies might be just as much as repairing a car is today, but doesn't mean that we can't drive our technologies as much as we can drive our automobiles.

00:41:00.000 And I think that's really...

00:41:02.000 The niche that we fall into is to educate the public at a time when technology decides which governments are powerful, and as a consequence, within a democratic republic, it's incumbent on all of us to have at least some working knowledge of what these technologies offer, and then the challenges and the risks they present as well.

00:41:20.000 Give us your websites.

00:41:22.000 The website is earthpulse.com e-a-r-t-h-p-u-l-s-e dot com and that's going under some revisions here over the next several months.

00:41:31.000 We're actually going to upload on a parallel site that's being funded by the Lay Foundation on Technologies a complete bibliographical index of the first 5,000 records will be uploaded

00:41:44.000 Later this year, and this includes abstracts, so it'll be a great research tool for folks interested in these issues, and something to point politicians, political leaders, and media towards, only in the sense that it gives a consolidated batch of materials that can then be looked at more deeply by those really interested in the topic.

00:42:02.000 So we're pretty excited about that.

00:42:05.000 And you've also been involved in some of the Native Affairs.

00:42:09.000 Absolutely.

00:42:10.000 I've worked as a tribal administrator here for the last six years.

00:42:15.000 I currently am doing consulting work for tribal governments here in Alaska, which are sort of the last remnant of sovereigns within the country.

00:42:26.000 I mean, the way tribes are viewed nationally on the federal level.

00:42:30.000 It has domestic nations, nations within nations, which makes for some pretty unique things.

00:42:35.000 I mean, here in Alaska, for instance, we're developing our own emergency response plan so that the tribal government as opposed to the Other local government would control the emergency.

00:42:46.000 FEMA issue is exactly right.

00:42:48.000 So we take control away from other state and national officials and maintain that control at the local level with the tribe that has the problem. 0.76

00:42:56.000 And just a side issue, there's a lot of clear evidence that your father died via foul play in his plane crash.

00:43:03.000 Absolutely.

00:43:04.000 It was the early seventies.

00:43:06.000 In fact, we're going to be talking about oil and gas and that was the big topic of the day in those days.

00:43:11.000 Watergate hadn't broke yet.

00:43:12.000 My dad was on a plane with Hale Boggs, who was the majority leader in the U.S.

00:43:16.000 House, just before the second election of Richard Nixon.

00:43:20.000 And the evidence that has surfaced since indicates absolutely there was either foul play in the recovery or maybe even on the front end in terms of why the plane went down in the first place.

00:43:31.000 Getting into this oil scam.

00:43:33.000 Let's start right there first.

00:43:36.000 Out of the gates during that last break, I got you on, talked to you for 60 seconds.

00:43:40.000 I said, I've got the IMF documents, which of course you're aware of.

00:43:44.000 They like to create artificial scarcity.

00:43:46.000 They're not going to let us go to new technologies.

00:43:48.000 They're going to force our entire savings, everything, because our society is built in a sprawled fashion.

00:43:54.000 They're going to jack up oil prices. 0.98

00:43:56.000 Peak oil is a scam.

00:43:57.000 And you said, I agree.

00:43:58.000 Give us your, from your study of this, and you've been right on the front lines of this for decades, tell us what's going on with peak oil and now the IMF going, oh yes, oh yes, you're going to be paying $10 a gallon, it's all over, there's no oil left.

00:44:12.000 Meanwhile, they find giant oil fields on a monthly basis, we've got oil coming out of our ears.

00:44:18.000 Yeah, you know, here in Alaska there were some studies done back in the 80s.

00:44:21.000 In fact, you've got to go back even further.

00:44:23.000 If you go back to the early 70s during the oil embargo and sort of what was happening then, there was huge pressure to build the Trans-Alaska Pipeline.

00:44:32.000 And for those that don't remember, at that time, once it did get completed, it provided 25% of domestic oil consumption.

00:44:40.000 Huge, huge reserves.

00:44:42.000 Well, the population in the country didn't support it.

00:44:45.000 In fact, if it wasn't for the embargo, it would have never passed.

00:44:48.000 At the same time, indigenous issues here had to be settled because there were disputes on right-of-ways and so on, so the Native Land Claims Settlement Act passed first.

00:44:59.000 Which was the biggest transfer of fee-simple property and mineral rights to indigenous ever in the history of the country. 0.97

00:45:06.000 It was my dad's first piece of legislation.

00:45:09.000 What that then did is clear the way for a right-of-way to be negotiated and established.

00:45:15.000 Once it passed the House, the U.S.

00:45:18.000 House level, it went to the Senate and it was actually passed on a tie vote where Agnew, just before he was thrown out of office, actually was the tiebreaker.

00:45:27.000 That brought the oil pipeline into being, and people remember the ramp up on oil prices then.

00:45:32.000 Well today what's being discussed is moving a natural gas pipeline from Alaska down to the Midwest, which is estimated at $20 billion.

00:45:41.000 And just to put that in perspective, the first Alaskan oil pipeline was estimated at $550 million.

00:45:47.000 At the end of the job it was $9 billion.

00:45:49.000 Billion.

00:45:50.000 It had overrun by 1800 percent.

00:45:53.000 The same is probably going to happen with a trans-Canadian gas line if they actually build it.

00:45:58.000 The difference is, this time the risk will be underwritten by the U.S.

00:46:01.000 taxpayers.

00:46:02.000 That's what's being proposed in Congress right now.

00:46:05.000 The other press is to open up the ANWR and open up some of the oil fields in Alaska When Alaska was looked at in the mid-eighties, they determined that we actually had more oil and potential reserves than Saudi Arabia, which is always considered, you know, sort of the bellwether.

00:46:20.000 Now, this is not a secret.

00:46:21.000 I mean, I have a lot of family in the oil business, it's in the oil publications, but the general public doesn't know this, and there's masses of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, and in one 600-mile, a square-mile area, which is relatively small, folks, there's more oil than we've used in the oil age.

00:46:40.000 Now, I mean, just for people that just joined us, simplifying it, the whole peak oil move, the IMF, Rolling Stone Magazine, all these little alternative, quote, blogs that we can trust, quote, and trust, are telling us there's no oil, Dr. Baggage!

00:46:55.000 It's over!

00:46:55.000 We've got to let them just quadruple prices!

00:46:58.000 Well, it's really, it's all about the money.

00:47:01.000 And there's other parts of it that are bottlenecking the price.

00:47:04.000 One is refining capacity.

00:47:06.000 There's not enough refining capacity to meet world demand.

00:47:09.000 Because they haven't built them on purpose.

00:47:10.000 That's right.

00:47:11.000 And China's demand is increasing so dramatically now that it's even sucking up whatever surpluses are available.

00:47:17.000 And the other big problem is tanker availability.

00:47:20.000 And this is a huge problem Five six years ago you could get ten tankers to ship to pick from to ship your oil today You're lucky to get one or two and the double hold taker tankers which are now required for domestic oil production and transportation Are so far behind That even if they had enough oil running through all of the systems, they couldn't move it to the refineries if there were enough refineries to accept it.

00:47:46.000 And so you've got several factors playing into this.

00:47:49.000 One is the refining capacity, the shipping capacity, and then the artificial ratchet-up of oil prices.

00:47:55.000 So you clearly agree from the evidence, though, there is not a scarcity of in-the-ground oil?

00:48:00.000 No, I don't believe that for one moment.

00:48:02.000 In fact, The alternatives, the reason they're pushing the gas line is to preempt one of the viable alternatives, which is the whole idea of using Essentially, the newest technology is on fuel cells.

00:48:21.000 And the idea here is, instead of using other materials to, say, crack hydrogen out of water, they want to use natural gas.

00:48:28.000 Again, keeping us dependent.

00:48:31.000 Exactly.

00:48:31.000 They're controlling the development to the next phase.

00:48:34.000 It's going to be a fraudulent system.

00:48:37.000 I mean, there's other ways to do this.

00:48:37.000 Right.

00:48:39.000 There's a mineral that's a byproduct of borax production, sodium borohydrate, which acts as a catalyst.

00:48:46.000 Well, they've now come out with new solar panels that are five times better, with very small, unobtrusive panels they could bring to market in the next few years if they wanted to allow us to have it, a solar car that would go 150 miles an hour.

00:49:01.000 Right.

00:49:02.000 And who wouldn't buy that? 0.96

00:49:03.000 We don't mean a piece of junk, folks, that goes 30 miles an hour. 0.53

00:49:06.000 We mean a sports car.

00:49:08.000 We mean a truck.

00:49:09.000 Well, here's another big consideration that people have not really indexed is superconductivity as a way to transfer energy.

00:49:16.000 You know, the big problem with producing energy in one location and moving it to another is line loss.

00:49:21.000 Electricity can't be transmitted, you know, long, long distances.

00:49:25.000 Yet, when they solve that particular technical problem, which I believe we're going to see in our lifetimes, you can then produce power wherever the energy is located.

00:49:34.000 So, if you look at geothermal as a Really, for practical purposes, an endless engine of power.

00:49:40.000 You could produce enough energy on geothermal in Alaska or wind in Alaska to provide enough energy to run the entire United States power grid.

00:49:48.000 But that decentralizes control so they can't let it happen.

00:49:51.000 Exactly right.

00:49:52.000 So they'll finance fake left-wing groups to tell us there's no oil.

00:49:56.000 Then the neocon-controlled IMF World Bank will tell us there's no oil.

00:50:00.000 And then people go, look, look, Dr. Begich, I have the IMF World Bank documents that BBC reported on almost three years ago, and it says we're going to create artificial scarcity on fuel, water, everything, and they're doing it now, and the poor, controlled left is buying it!

00:50:16.000 Well, let me tell you this, the biggest scam on natural resources in the US, including oil and gas, ...was during the Carter administration, and there was a big fight here in Alaska over Section D-2 of the Native Land Claims Act, which allowed for the development of parks and preserves.

00:50:33.000 And all the big foundations, all the big world leaders punched money into the environmental movement to lock these resources up.

00:50:41.000 And after the break, I'll tell you what happened with that.

00:50:43.000 Exactly.

00:50:44.000 Again, I'm not against the environment.

00:50:46.000 I'm for the environment.

00:50:47.000 But they hijacked the environmental movement and used it to set up a neo-feudalist plantation.

00:50:53.000 This is their own documents.

00:50:55.000 Dr. Bagich is on target as usual.

00:50:57.000 We'll expose this when we get back.

00:50:59.000 Stay with us.

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00:54:28.000 Folks, this is just the facts.

00:54:31.000 Huge oil fields all over Tazikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, All over Canada, all over Alaska, all over Mexico, Texas.

00:54:43.000 It's just everywhere!

00:54:45.000 I mean, like half the places they drill in Texas, they hit huge oil wells or gas wells.

00:54:48.000 It's a joke!

00:54:50.000 There's oil everywhere!

00:54:53.000 But it's like De Beers and the Oppenheimers with diamonds.

00:54:57.000 Diamonds are semi-precious, but they're the most precious stone because they have a monopoly.

00:55:02.000 And the IMF says it in their own documents.

00:55:04.000 They'd rather sell you one gallon of water for three or four times what it's worth than just sell it to you at regular price.

00:55:10.000 Because it also brings control.

00:55:12.000 And that's part of this consolidation.

00:55:15.000 Dr. Baggett, you said it before we hit the break, that this is a way to scam the public, and you mentioned Absolutely.

00:55:24.000 how the big foundations, the big money men actually funded these big preserves.

00:55:29.000 It has nothing to do with the environment.

00:55:31.000 It was totally about getting control of those resources, because by locking resources up, that means the other resources they own and control automatically increase in price, correct?

00:55:42.000 Absolutely.

00:55:43.000 The other thing it does is create a long-term sort of inventory they don't have to pay for, because here's what happens.

00:55:50.000 When they locked up all these resources in Alaska, Carter also looked at where the strategic minerals were in the country, and 32 of the 33 strategic minerals, including things like tungsten, platinum, palladium, all of these very, very important minerals exist in mineable quantities in Alaska, and they were locked up within the boundaries of most of these major preserves.

00:56:12.000 What happened is groups like the Rockefeller Foundation, Ford Foundation and others funded the environmental groups to make the campaign to lock up literally millions and millions of acres here in Alaska.

00:56:25.000 As a consequence, in national emergencies what you'll see happen over time is when we get thrown out of Africa or wherever we're exploiting these resources presently, you'll see the pressure to open these reserves up and as simple as an executive order can bust open some of these And then it's given to select people.

00:56:45.000 Look at the small fields they allow to be developed in Alaska, as you said, giving 25% of our domestic use.

00:56:52.000 What is it, like half of Japan's?

00:56:55.000 BP almost owns and controls all of that, and they were just given it by our government.

00:56:59.000 Yep.

00:57:00.000 In fact, British Petroleum, I was one of three litigants filing an antitrust suit, the first antitrust suit.

00:57:06.000 When Atlantic Richfield tried to sell all of their resources to British Petroleum, which, when the oil field first opened, 25% of British Petroleum was owned by the British Crown.

00:57:18.000 I mean, we thought we had gotten rid of colonialization, and all we did was do it through a corporate structure.

00:57:23.000 And the thing that happened here is, after we filed suit, and it was myself as an independent, we had someone that was one of our signers to our state constitution, who's a prominent Democrat and then a prominent In fact, the chairman of the Republican Moderate Party and the three of us joined together.

00:57:39.000 We blocked the merger long enough for the Western states to get involved and eventually kill it.

00:57:47.000 Something like 80% of all Alaskan oil and gas, as far as they're producing oil and gas, would have been controlled by a foreign corporation whose interests... And again, that's not free market.

00:57:56.000 That's this crony capitalism or criminal... It's not free market.

00:58:01.000 It's a racket.

00:58:02.000 Now we've got these, quote, liberals we can trust, who are outpushing the population control agenda, right along with peak oil.

00:58:10.000 I mean, that's right out of Rockefeller Brothers Foundation.

00:58:14.000 And when you look at sort of what is the pressure point and what does this do, I mean, wait until you see what happens to inflation figures when they catch up, and that's a few months away.

00:58:14.000 Absolutely.

00:58:25.000 Wait until you see what happens to producer production costs.

00:58:28.000 We are going to see a very strong downturn in this economy as a result of all of this.

00:58:32.000 But they'll keep telling us the economy's great, so people will feel like they're all alone.

00:58:36.000 Doing bad, they'll buy the propaganda.

00:58:38.000 Yep, and that's what's happening now.

00:58:40.000 We'll be right back with Dr. Nick Begich in the second hour.

00:58:43.000 We'll cover a bunch of other key issues, and take your calls.

00:58:46.000 Stay with us.

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00:59:14.000 Alright, we're now into hour number two.

00:59:17.000 If you missed the last hour, oh my goodness.

00:59:19.000 Welcome to Dr. Nick Begich of EarthPulse.com.

00:59:25.000 And he is an expert on basically analyzing the technologies, the real technological developments out there.

00:59:34.000 We just spent the last 30 minutes talking about the peak oil scam.

00:59:40.000 Masses of untapped oil everywhere.

00:59:44.000 But the globalists want to create artificial scarcity as an economic tool of control.

00:59:51.000 And coming up the next segment we're going to start taking your calls At 1-800-259-9231.

00:59:57.000 But Dr. Baggett, continuing what you mentioned about inflation, the inflationary pressures of, you know, when gas prices are this high, that, as you know well, it affects an entire food chain of the economy.

01:00:17.000 And causes prices to go up across the board.

01:00:20.000 Can you speak more to that?

01:00:21.000 Yeah, there's a couple things.

01:00:23.000 Firstly, because you think about energy as a component for food production, literally food production, you look at energy as a component for everything that's produced and it adds a significant amount to inflation.

01:00:34.000 I would expect within the next 18 months to see us starting to get back into this potentially double digit.

01:00:41.000 Now some of the things that they're doing To mitigate this is reducing trade barriers even further, just to create this sort of artificial slide in prices as foreign competitors are able to bring goods in even cheaper.

01:00:54.000 Textile industry is one in particular that they're looking at right now.

01:00:57.000 So what you have is baubles, symbols of success being sold very cheaply, but key things like milk and fuel and housing, real indices are exploding in price.

01:01:08.000 Absolutely.

01:01:09.000 The things that affect people that don't have any elasticity, any room in their budgets.

01:01:13.000 I mean, when gas goes to $3 a gallon, and in some parts of the country it's getting pretty close to that now, you know, that has a huge effect on low and moderate income earners, which is the bulk of the people left in the United States.

01:01:27.000 Are you kidding?

01:01:28.000 It's not comfortable for me to be Paying $40 at the pump instead of $25?

01:01:32.000 Exactly.

01:01:33.000 And what it causes is other choices to be made.

01:01:36.000 It starts to draw out savings.

01:01:38.000 It really weakens the individual tremendously.

01:01:41.000 But it consolidates control.

01:01:43.000 Absolutely.

01:01:44.000 It gives the power into the hands of those who control, literally, the flow of resources to households.

01:01:51.000 Because no longer do households produce much of anything.

01:01:55.000 I mean, we've gone from a society and a culture that essentially was self-sustaining and efficient as individuals to one totally dependent on multinational corporations that control the flow of goods, services, and all the things that we consider important.

01:02:10.000 And even the service economy that they promised would be at the Holy Grail and save us as we quote, de-industrialized, now that's shutting down and everything is shifting to homeland security with the college courses, it's shifting to the private prisons, it's shifting to being security guards, everything is shifting, they're almost forcing us into the police state.

01:02:31.000 Well, and even in that area, you know, college enrollments aren't going up the way they expected.

01:02:37.000 The ability to fund college has gone down, so we're ending up now... At the same time, the college prices are going up!

01:02:44.000 Yeah, and so what are they doing to combat that?

01:02:46.000 They're lowering again restrictions on immigration to allow technical folks to come into the country and take those jobs that, you know, in the past those high-paying jobs went to Americans.

01:02:55.000 Now they're not so high-paying Competition is going up and the only people served by this are again multinational corporations and Wall Street rather than Main Street.

01:03:05.000 I think that's You know, that's just a continuing shift of goods and services out of the hands of individuals.

01:03:11.000 I mean, that's what these lockups in Alaska were about.

01:03:14.000 You know, on the minerals side, not the oil and gas side, but on the minerals side, any American citizen could go out and stake claims on these federal lands and actually gain possession of those resources.

01:03:25.000 No longer will that ever be possible within these parks and preserves.

01:03:28.000 It'll only happen for multinational corporations whose interests aren't our own.

01:03:33.000 And again, that was free market.

01:03:34.000 You could go out and stake a claim to it.

01:03:36.000 Now, it is centralized, not free market, but they call it free market.

01:03:40.000 Yep.

01:03:41.000 It's a monopoly is what it is.

01:03:42.000 Monopoly.

01:03:43.000 Simplify it very well.

01:03:45.000 We'll be right back and talk a lot more about this and more and your call.

01:03:48.000 Stay with us.

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01:07:15.000 Alright, 8 minutes, 25 seconds into this second hour on this Monday edition.

01:07:21.000 Talking to Dr. Nick Begich of EarthPulse.com.

01:07:25.000 He's an author, documentary maker, professor.

01:07:30.000 His father, of course, was a famous congressman.

01:07:34.000 The evidence is clear.

01:07:35.000 A foul play involved in his plane crash.

01:07:38.000 His plane going down with the leader of the house.

01:07:43.000 And that concerned energy as well.

01:07:44.000 The energy scams that are going on.

01:07:46.000 The last 40 minutes we've been talking about the peak oil scam.

01:07:51.000 Telling you that we've run out of oil as they have all these giant reserves everywhere and they've handed them over to private select corporations that are in cahoots with OPEC deciding not to tap them because it would drive prices down to almost nothing.

01:08:05.000 But it's just like with the diamonds, they've created artificial scarcity and now they've got their fake grassroots organizations out there promoting this Full tilt boogie right now, adding the cherry on top of we've got to reduce world population drastically.

01:08:22.000 And now the IMF of course is out promoting what their little minions have already been pushing for them, those that have been laying the groundwork.

01:08:30.000 Yes, there'll be no resources.

01:08:34.000 And so now that they've gotten this monopoly of control, they're going to start gouging you for energy, gouging you when you travel with toll roads on every major street and highway and state road.

01:08:45.000 They're going to start forced psychological testing, forced drugging, with the drug companies actually administering it at the schools.

01:08:52.000 This is the transfer of quote, privatization, where the corporations that are bigger than most governments become the government.

01:09:00.000 And just like you've got fake blogs out there, you know, with Jeff Gannon and Talon News Service and fake news reporters like Armstrong Williams.

01:09:10.000 It's just there's so much of this out there and it's got to be fought.

01:09:14.000 It's got to be resisted.

01:09:15.000 And when you watch the mainstream news, there's little or no discussion of why we're paying so much for oil.

01:09:20.000 It's because they've laid off limits all of our own reserves in the Gulf of Mexico and all over this country and Canada and predominantly Alaska.

01:09:31.000 And they are basically not upgrading the systems, the delivery systems, by design.

01:09:37.000 Their own documents say it, but still the general public is in the dark, and many of you are buying the fraud.

01:09:43.000 I've studied it, I've looked at it, and it is a scam.

01:09:47.000 But I want to go to your calls here in just a minute or two, as promised, but Dr. Nick Baggett's letter will tell folks how to get your books and the videos as well.

01:09:55.000 What are some of the other issues that you think are really important right now that we should discuss?

01:10:01.000 Let's jump just one more point on the oil that is important that we missed, and that's what oil does in terms of U.S.

01:10:07.000 money supply.

01:10:08.000 It used to be all oil was traded globally in dollars, and that has changed.

01:10:12.000 Now they take euros and other currencies.

01:10:15.000 As a consequence, there's more dollars in circulation, which causes the value of those dollars to drop unless they get sucked up by higher oil prices.

01:10:22.000 So that's part of the scam as well.

01:10:24.000 Well, that's what I said before you got on with us, is the dollar's been devalued by 45% in the last four years, so we're gonna have to pay more.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, and that's exactly what's happened.

01:10:33.000 I mean, I do a lot of work in Europe where the impact of this is extreme.

01:10:36.000 I mean, It's great for shipping U.S. 0.99

01:10:38.000 goods over, but try and get anything out of Europe headed this way, it's just outrageous.

01:10:43.000 And you just can't do it the way you used to be able to.

01:10:45.000 Again, it's designed to hurt first world countries, and then I hear the phony left on NPR going, good, we've lived out of our means, this will teach us.

01:10:54.000 No, this won't make us independent, this will make us more dependent.

01:10:58.000 Yeah, there's one other twist on this to kind of jump a little bit to a side issue.

01:11:02.000 You know, they're just revamping the bankruptcy laws, and I think people have been following this a little bit.

01:11:08.000 You know, the bankruptcy laws were set up when we had indentured servitude, you know, and they kind of got rid of that and said, you know, people need a chance to have a fresh start and be able to clear all of that out.

01:11:20.000 If you think about all the credit card solicitations and what's happened is people have racked up huge, huge debt and continue to do so.

01:11:27.000 And they used to be able, if they got out of control, to be able to shut it down and start over.

01:11:32.000 Well, you can't do that under the new legislation.

01:11:34.000 What will happen is you'll be an indentured servant to those creditors.

01:11:40.000 Even if you have like a family illness where you get sick, you can't work.

01:11:44.000 They're going to start garnishing!

01:11:46.000 Yeah, they're going to take away and eliminate your ability to clear it.

01:11:50.000 So if you have a sick breadwinner in the house that loses everything, or you get in an accident, you can't work for a period of time, you are going to be enslaved and never have a chance to start again.

01:12:02.000 And again, it's neo-feudalism.

01:12:04.000 I'm so glad you brought this up, Doctor.

01:12:06.000 Back when I was in college and had absolutely no money, I would get a credit card almost every day in the mail.

01:12:11.000 Now that I'm out of debt and have a little bit of money, I maybe get one a month or so.

01:12:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:17.000 And you know, what happens?

01:12:18.000 I mean, when you think about... Listen, I had a credit card that I always paid off each month, and they canceled it and said, you're not good for us.

01:12:25.000 And I called them, they said, well, Mr. Jones, we have a little index we do, and you're not profitable for us.

01:12:30.000 Oh my gosh!

01:12:33.000 Well, you know, when you think about all of this, I think about, um, I had a friend of mine who visited me from the former Soviet Union and he was marveling as we drove through the neighborhoods of my community at the houses.

01:12:44.000 And I said, look, nobody owns these houses but the bank.

01:12:48.000 And he looked at me just mystified, you know, because in the former Soviet Union, when somebody says they own their home, they really do.

01:12:54.000 You know, they don't know anything on it.

01:12:56.000 And when I explained to him how much of a payment goes to interest versus really paying for the house and explained to him what that was, it's a banker's tax.

01:13:05.000 It's a way to keep us enslaved economically.

01:13:08.000 And let's be clear, when they create a credit card, that's just zeros and ones in a computer.

01:13:13.000 It's all fractional reserve banking.

01:13:15.000 These banks, they're allowed in more complex scenarios, they do write this stuff off.

01:13:20.000 Yeah, and here's what they're doing with the new bankruptcy rules, where they're already charging you 18 or 22 percent interest.

01:13:28.000 In some cases 30.

01:13:29.000 Yeah, and then they're sucking up a certain amount of losses, which they factor in, which is their excuse for those high rates.

01:13:35.000 You put this into play, The defaults go down to almost nothing, or significantly lower.

01:13:41.000 Their profit margins go up dramatically.

01:13:43.000 Their stock prices are impacted accordingly.

01:13:46.000 But when it comes to the end of the day, with inflation happening and more people are going to be inclined to put things on credit cards that they really shouldn't, because they've got to feed their families.

01:13:56.000 And what's going to happen is you're going to see even a bigger rash of um... distribution of these cards because they know they're going to collect and what it's going to do is force people into the most impoverished of circumstances and it's just one more brick in the backpack as we try and swim across the lake of this life and i think that again it's a way to enslave it's a way to create fear and anxiety.

01:14:18.000 Well listen I saw Governor Ridge and folks again these people are not free market it's about control they own the world now they're getting rid of the middle class that threatens them their own documents say it I saw Ridge almost three years ago.

01:14:31.000 He's left now.

01:14:32.000 Now it's Chertoff.

01:14:33.000 Michael Chertoff is Homeland Security head.

01:14:35.000 But I saw him on C-SPAN.

01:14:36.000 He said, if you've got bad credit, you're going to have a bad rating on your national ID card through the driver's license, which they've now done.

01:14:42.000 And just like with the TSA, they're now changing the name to confuse you.

01:14:47.000 Just like with the airports, daily life is going to be like that.

01:14:51.000 And then, if you want to be able to have a job, you're going to have to go dedicate yourself ten hours a week working for the corporation they direct you to, literally as a slave laborer, to pay off your debts or they won't remove that hold off your ID card.

01:15:07.000 Were you aware of that?

01:15:08.000 Yep, and you know, this is again, you know, when people talk about New World Order politics and controls, It is all about that.

01:15:16.000 I mean, if you take it the next step, even currency, they're going to be embedding chips in currency so they can track every dollar.

01:15:23.000 In other words, there won't be any more cash economy, essentially.

01:15:29.000 I mean, you'll be trading with what's as trackable as a credit card transaction.

01:15:32.000 And they've been saying they're going to do that.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, and actually, the projection is by 2008, 2009, the technology will be cheap enough to accomplish it because these will be able to be embedded into the fabric of the cloth, much in the way the Mylar strip is embedded right now.

01:15:47.000 You know, if you hold the dollar up, a larger nomination bill, you'll see this little Mylar strip in the bill.

01:15:54.000 But we're talking about a microcircuit, a very small RF device that will be used for that purpose.

01:16:01.000 The same kind of devices are going to be put in virtually every product to control inventory.

01:16:06.000 And then the new refrigerators are already coming out with this.

01:16:10.000 They will scan and know what you're eating and, quote, automatically order.

01:16:14.000 But, again, it brings total control.

01:16:15.000 Right.

01:16:16.000 And at the same time, profiling of individuals.

01:16:18.000 You know, there's something that's been put into cars for years that most people don't even realize.

01:16:23.000 The black box, tracking every time you buckle up, every time you speed.

01:16:27.000 You know what's going to happen eventually is the laws are going to allow for our own safety, which is always the... It's already here.

01:16:32.000 It's already here.

01:16:34.000 And you're not going to be able to buy insurance.

01:16:34.000 Yep.

01:16:36.000 You're not going to be able... They've got the bill.

01:16:38.000 The Texas Insurance Lobby's got the bill introduced.

01:16:40.000 Introduced about two weeks ago, all cars with your inspection sticker will have your personal ID on an RFID and it says the day your insurance runs out you will be arrested immediately.

01:16:52.000 The readers are already up and it says in there this will also be used for the electronic toll roads.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, and when you tie all this together, what it really results in is an absolute directed and controlled society, which is something that we've been talking about for years.

01:17:09.000 I know, Alex, you've been talking about this since your beginnings.

01:17:13.000 This is where the rubber meets the road.

01:17:15.000 I mean, we're talking about... Yeah, ten years ago I was reading their documents, you were reading their documents, now it's happening!

01:17:20.000 Yep, and in fact, if you look back historically on some of the projections by the think tankers on the planet, one in particular I know I've mentioned on your program before, and it's...

01:17:30.000 The Big New Brzezinski's Between Two Ages, written in the early 70s.

01:17:33.000 And you can still find this book.

01:17:34.000 They printed a couple hundred thousand of them.

01:17:36.000 And that was the genesis and the idea for the Trilateral Commission.

01:17:39.000 Rockefeller said, I read this book.

01:17:41.000 Yep.

01:17:41.000 And if you look at that book as a projection, because it's from the 70s, you know, over 30 years ago.

01:17:47.000 You read it today and it is a history of the socio-economic and cultural changes that took place.

01:17:52.000 And it shows.

01:17:52.000 They're the engineers.

01:17:53.000 We'll read the Grand Chess Board.

01:17:54.000 97, it's exactly what happened.

01:17:57.000 Yeah, exactly right.

01:17:58.000 And so when you look at it, and you've got to take a long view, you know, Everyone thinks Wall Street just takes the quarterly view and they do for generating the jack-up of profit.

01:18:07.000 Yeah, for milking the saps.

01:18:09.000 Yeah, but when you look at the long-range view, it's about moving massive resources into the control of the few.

01:18:17.000 And, you know, you can go back, if you think the railroad barons stories of the 1800s were something, The minerals and resource stories of this century and the last one dwarfs what happened then.

01:18:28.000 And they've got fake alternative left control bloggers out there telling us it's all good.

01:18:34.000 Absolutely.

01:18:35.000 We're in deep trouble.

01:18:36.000 I promise we'll go right to your calls when we get back.

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01:23:29.000 People that know me on the street go, Alex, you're so calm, you know, at a restaurant, or, you know, at the mall, or in a grocery store.

01:23:37.000 Why do you get so upset on air?

01:23:39.000 Because I hate seeing you get scammed, and I'm getting scammed, and my children are going to be scammed.

01:23:44.000 I mean, being ripped off should make you angry by a bunch of criminals!

01:23:50.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike.

01:23:52.000 And Mike, where are you calling us from today?

01:23:54.000 North Carolina, Alex.

01:23:55.000 Welcome, you're on the air.

01:23:57.000 Thank you.

01:23:58.000 First, I just wanted to say that I really enjoy what you've been doing and opening many Americans' eyes on what's really going on behind these lies.

01:24:07.000 And I just wanted to know, since you're a Christian, like me and I'm sure many other listeners, do you believe that with this world that is heavily influenced, you know, by Satan and his demons, that we should just put our trust And God to handle these since they've been around for thousands of years misleading different leaders and people.

01:24:28.000 Well, look, you reap what you sow.

01:24:31.000 And, you know, faith without works is dead.

01:24:33.000 I mean, I could sit here and... I mean, did Jesus lay around and let the corruption go on?

01:24:37.000 No, he went and confronted it.

01:24:39.000 And, you know, I'm not a Buddhist, but let's talk about Gandhi.

01:24:42.000 You know, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

01:24:46.000 But the old Bedouin saying, trust in God, but tie up your camel, or God helps those that help themselves.

01:24:54.000 I mean, we've got to, in Ezekiel, dig in the wall, dig through the wall, and look at what's going on inside, and tell the people.

01:25:02.000 We have a moral responsibility to expose and fight evil.

01:25:06.000 And, Dr. Begich, comments?

01:25:08.000 Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.

01:25:11.000 And, you know, in terms of, you know, you really have to act.

01:25:14.000 I mean, when I was younger and was struggling with the issues of faith, you know, the whole concept of faith came up.

01:25:20.000 And, you know, I heard all these long dissertations about what it was.

01:25:24.000 For me, it boiled down to something very simple.

01:25:26.000 Faith is knowing what is right and true and acting on it.

01:25:29.000 Doing something about it.

01:25:30.000 And I think that's the call that all of us are called to.

01:25:33.000 I mean, no matter What we do if we stand idly by, God gave us free will and creative power to do something with.

01:25:39.000 We're creating the image of the Creator to spread something that's much more potent than the energy of ourselves.

01:25:45.000 And that requires action, not idleness.

01:25:48.000 And I think the call to Americans and to everyone in the world of faith is Open your eyes and act on what you know to be right and true in the ways that we can.

01:25:59.000 Don't create a bunch of anxiety.

01:26:00.000 Do what's right in front of you.

01:26:02.000 Act on those small things.

01:26:03.000 They become big things.

01:26:05.000 There is an inorganic internet.

01:26:07.000 It's called the human race.

01:26:08.000 The creative capacity of God rests there if we direct it in the proper way.

01:26:12.000 Oh, beautifully said.

01:26:13.000 And listen, folks.

01:26:15.000 The Founding Fathers said this over and over again.

01:26:18.000 Duty is ours.

01:26:19.000 Consequences is God's.

01:26:20.000 It doesn't matter if we're going to win.

01:26:22.000 Stop worrying about all that.

01:26:24.000 We have a job to expose corruption.

01:26:26.000 I mean, it's simple.

01:26:28.000 That's an instinctive drive to fight corruption, to fight evil.

01:26:33.000 They're trying to engineer it out of us.

01:26:36.000 I totally understand what you're saying, Alex.

01:26:39.000 And I don't disagree with you at all.

01:26:41.000 The mainline churches are saying, cop out, don't get involved, you know, just sit around.

01:26:46.000 Rejoice, things are getting bad.

01:26:48.000 It means it's almost over.

01:26:49.000 That is mind control.

01:26:51.000 I mean, I know what you're saying.

01:26:53.000 All I was trying to say is that, you know... No, it's a good question.

01:26:56.000 I'm glad you raised it.

01:26:58.000 ...that Armageddon is definitely near, just as you said and many others have said.

01:27:03.000 You know, I was just saying, you know, No human can defeat Satan and his demons.

01:27:10.000 I love what you do.

01:27:11.000 I think it's wonderful.

01:27:12.000 I was just seeing what you thought because, you know, I just believe that.

01:27:17.000 Yeah, listen, I understand.

01:27:18.000 I appreciate your call.

01:27:19.000 Let's take another call.

01:27:20.000 Look, folks, regardless of whether the globalists are going to start, you know, releasing bioweapons next week, we have a job to do to expose them because whenever crises are coming, they're going to pose as our saviors as people run into their They're arms.

01:27:37.000 Okay, so a lot of this Armageddon stuff is a cop-out and it is a cop-out.

01:27:43.000 We have a job to do.

01:27:44.000 We have to expose evil.

01:27:45.000 John in New York, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:27:48.000 Thank you for having me, Alex.

01:27:49.000 I'll try to be quick here.

01:27:51.000 Lindsey Williams wrote a book on the non-energy crisis, and he actually predicts that Carter was already pretense to his vote on the Alaskan pipeline, was already figured out way before his election.

01:28:04.000 And it showed where the Alaskan pipeline was supposed to be like a billion dollars into ten billion dollars approximately, and it was actually coerced by the controllers to be actually purchased by the World Bank, basically.

01:28:15.000 And then also, uh, you have, uh, the book No Evil is written by a 21-year veteran of the CIA.

01:28:20.000 Tells where our government is actually the CIA for Exxon and Mobil.

01:28:23.000 Tell you what, stay there.

01:28:24.000 Alright.

01:28:25.000 We'll let you finish up and get Dr. Baggage's comment on the other side.

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01:32:16.000 I just want to, before we go back to Dr. Bagich, I just want to say something here on not the last caller, but the caller before that caller, Mike.

01:32:26.000 Mike, I understand what you're saying, but I hear this fatalistic tone In your voice and fatalistic, you know, what you're saying.

01:32:34.000 I mean, you heard what I had to say and then you just restated that, you know, this is just how it is and it's so evil and we just got to leave it to God.

01:32:44.000 Well, you know, God has told us that we have a job and that we better get out there and wake people up and stand up against evil.

01:32:53.000 So, that's important.

01:32:55.000 And look, don't think for a minute the globalist Won't Nuka City or at least Smallpox, if they think the population is getting out of control, waking up to their paradigm, shifting too far away from their media control, don't think they won't do that to scare us back into submission to get in line behind them.

01:33:13.000 But even if we go along with their plans, they're going to carry out those events to get more control over us.

01:33:18.000 So it's a catch-22 with a trap door.

01:33:21.000 We have to expose who the real terrorists are, who has the motive.

01:33:24.000 Kimono is the Roman Judges would say, well, who stands to gain?

01:33:29.000 Who has motive here?

01:33:31.000 It's the same story over and over again, to where the general public has this awakening which is happening.

01:33:37.000 The worm is turning.

01:33:38.000 We're at the crossroads here.

01:33:41.000 A zenith of a new renaissance.

01:33:43.000 I mean, I think we can win this.

01:33:45.000 At least at the point of exposing who the terrorists are.

01:33:49.000 Tracking back every big terror event, showing who has motive, and then voila!

01:33:54.000 Doesn't surprise us.

01:33:55.000 The actual physical evidence and eyewitness evidence of who's doing these attacks.

01:34:03.000 So it's simple, really.

01:34:06.000 The general public are like children. 0.99

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01:34:38.000 So they don't run into the arms of the New World Order over and over and over and over and over again.

01:34:45.000 It's so sad to see this happening.

01:34:49.000 It's painful.

01:34:53.000 The general public doesn't understand how politics even really works.

01:34:56.000 They've been given false information like a computer that's been misprogrammed.

01:35:01.000 We've got to just remove the cultural psychological viruses Kind of as an anti-virus program so that they can function normally and then they'll see it without us even telling them what they see.

01:35:14.000 See, the globals have to keep reapplying their lies, their illusion, to keep it going.

01:35:19.000 We just have to clear the mist for a moment and most people will first freak out and then wake up to seeing the Matrix.

01:35:29.000 And we've got a job to do.

01:35:32.000 So many people are being deceived and Even if there was no hope of defeating the New World Order, there is a hope of waking individuals up.

01:35:43.000 So, it's pointless, this mantra I hear, in mainstream Christendom, and in mainstream period, this nihilistic, fatalistic, there's nothing we can do, let's just party, eat, drink, and be merry, tomorrow we die.

01:35:56.000 That attitude, that's really another subset of, I only care about myself, There's nothing I can do.

01:36:04.000 I get ahead by only caring about myself.

01:36:06.000 Folks, that's a fraud.

01:36:08.000 When you only care about yourself, you ensure that an atmosphere in which tyranny explodes and grows.

01:36:16.000 You've ensured that you personally are in great danger.

01:36:20.000 Dr. Nick Begich, any comments on what I'm saying?

01:36:24.000 I absolutely agree with you, Alex.

01:36:25.000 You know, the whole thing is, you know, government and institutions that take away our power rather than build our higher potentials are exactly what's working against us.

01:36:37.000 And so coming to fear, which, you know, when I think about Mike's call a little while ago, It's a very common, you know, kind of question that I get from time to time.

01:36:45.000 Well, it's pretty clear they killed your dad, but here you are.

01:36:48.000 Yeah, and I know, you know, when you stop at fear, I'll tell you that's when you lose the battle.

01:36:52.000 And so much of what's being generated is to create fear in the population.

01:36:57.000 And when you look at what happens, I mean just look at the physical changes that happen within a human brain when you're engaged in fear, you get what are called incoherent brain patterns, the kinds of patterns that don't lend themselves to good thinking.

01:37:09.000 Well your higher systems shut down.

01:37:11.000 That's exactly it.

01:37:12.000 And so the things that are important in a complex technological world, which is a thinking population that engages, that doesn't sit idly by.

01:37:22.000 That's what's going to change the country.

01:37:24.000 I mean, we may see the inevitability of these things come to pass, but when you want to talk about it in prophetic terms, remember prophecy is about a warning, not a condemnation.

01:37:34.000 And we're getting plenty of warnings these days.

01:37:37.000 The question is, are we going to wake up and are we going to act in the ways that are responsible that can generate the counter flow?

01:37:44.000 And I think people are waking up.

01:37:46.000 I certainly see it around the country.

01:37:47.000 Well, that's the first question I was going to ask you when you got on with us an hour ago, is that 10 years ago, I mean, most people disagree with me.

01:37:56.000 Now I can't get people to disagree with me.

01:37:58.000 Not on my own show, on other people's broadcasts, people on the street, cops.

01:38:03.000 Firemen, government workers, FBI agents, I mean, people are... I'm really seeing a massive shift, and I think the controllers are panicking, Doctor!

01:38:12.000 I agree with you, and when you see how they react to this kind of thing, it's to increase the fear levels, because that again shuts down the critical thinking mechanisms within the larger segments of the population.

01:38:24.000 But if people remember, you know, it's been said that the American Revolution started with 6% of the people thinking it was a good idea.

01:38:31.000 Thank God for 6%.

01:38:33.000 You know, today, people look around and say, oh, you know, no one's doing anything and they're apathetic.

01:38:38.000 You know, apathy works in your favor.

01:38:40.000 You know, if only 15% of the people pull a lever at the poll, you only got to convince 8% of them.

01:38:45.000 And I'm sick of that mantra of, we can't do anything, we can't get it done.

01:38:49.000 You know, that's that type of procrastination when you look at your garage and five years of junk is in there and you don't think you can do it.

01:38:55.000 But at the end of the Saturday, you know, day or Sunday or whatever, the thing's clean.

01:39:00.000 Yes, and the reality is, again, that removes power from people when you start to question your ability as an individual.

01:39:08.000 Everything that was ever important to humankind from the beginning of humankind was hard.

01:39:12.000 It was hard and it started with one or two people saying, hey, I see things just a little bit differently.

01:39:17.000 And I don't care whether it's in business, politics, religion or science, that's where it starts, by someone individually Making that decision and then making that step of faith by acting on what they know to change something.

01:39:29.000 And we can do it in our neighborhoods.

01:39:31.000 We can do it in our communities.

01:39:32.000 And we can do it on a much larger scale.

01:39:33.000 It really is an attitude.

01:39:35.000 It is.

01:39:35.000 And the other thing is, you're not alone.

01:39:38.000 Don't wait for some group to be formed.

01:39:40.000 It already is.

01:39:41.000 You're standing in it.

01:39:42.000 It's right in the middle of your shoes.

01:39:43.000 And you're part of that group.

01:39:45.000 Part of those people that have woken up and are doing something.

01:39:48.000 Don't look for any formal organizations.

01:39:50.000 You don't need them.

01:39:51.000 You're it!

01:39:52.000 You know, formal organizations get corrupted over time.

01:39:55.000 Individuals that have some integrity can move forward, learn from their mistakes, pick themselves up from each mistake, and do something better each time.

01:40:03.000 And I don't mean this to sound like mumbo-jumbo, but since people bring up Christ, you know, love your neighbor as yourself.

01:40:10.000 I mean, it really does start With loving your family, not letting your children watch TV, spending time with your family, not flipping the person back off when they flip you off on the highway, this hatred, this animalistic idea they're trying to sell us, they want us to be like they are.

01:40:27.000 That's exactly it, and that's not what human beings were meant to be.

01:40:30.000 I mean, and when you look at what's going on technologically now, You know, we really kind of get locked into this idea that we need the latest, best gadget.

01:40:39.000 You know, when you really ask yourself, why do I need this stuff?

01:40:42.000 A lot of it you really don't need.

01:40:44.000 Well, here's an example.

01:40:45.000 I have the old cell phone that isn't satellite triangulated.

01:40:49.000 And it broke.

01:40:50.000 And they didn't want to sell me another one.

01:40:51.000 So I said, okay, I'll take the new phone.

01:40:54.000 It doesn't even work.

01:40:56.000 Half of the places my other one worked, it's more expensive.

01:40:59.000 I'm taking it back and going to one of the last places that will let me have the old-fashioned phone.

01:41:04.000 But the point is that we don't need all this junk.

01:41:08.000 Right.

01:41:08.000 I mean, as busy as I am, I don't even have a cell phone.

01:41:11.000 I don't have a pager either.

01:41:12.000 I mean, when I'm out of my office, you can't find me unless you know where I went.

01:41:16.000 And, you know, there's something to be said for that.

01:41:18.000 I mean, personal privacy is a big deal for me.

01:41:21.000 And, you know, when I look at just the whole transparency of populations, while our governments become more opaque and difficult to look into, just the opposite of what should be happening is happening.

01:41:32.000 And when you look around the country and you start to ask yourself, you know, what is going on?

01:41:37.000 You know, this big controversy with, I believe it was Centerpoint that lost all this data on individuals.

01:41:43.000 You know, Centerpoint we wrote about in 1999 in the book Earth Rising, the Revolution.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, they do this stuff on purpose.

01:41:51.000 Yes.

01:41:52.000 Every time to pass more legislation.

01:41:55.000 But that particular company also has a contract with the Department of Justice that was non-competitive going back to the 1990s that gave them access to three and a half billion records at that time.

01:42:08.000 on American citizens for them to peruse and use for profiling American population.

01:42:13.000 Yeah, more data mining!

01:42:14.000 Yeah, and you know they actually in Europe they coined the phrase data valence and we quote quite a bit from the European Parliament and European media within Earth Rising because they really understand what invasiveness of privacy is about because most people at least in Eastern Europe certainly understand it from their own personal experience And elders in Western Europe understand it quite well from their own experience.

01:42:37.000 Well, that's where the globalists have a leg up, as Americans have had it so good, we don't know what we've got until it's gone.

01:42:42.000 Real fast, plug some of your materials and we've got to go right back to the calls.

01:42:46.000 Sure, we've got several books out, Angels Don't Play This Harp, our classic, and then Earth Rising, The Revolution, Earth Rising 2, and these you can get, hopefully we'll get them in your bookstore, Alex, but you can get them toll-free at 888-690-8000.

01:43:02.000 1-277-888-690-1277.

01:43:06.000 Or take a look at our website at earthpulse.com.

01:43:10.000 Earthpulse.com.

01:43:12.000 Give that number out again.

01:43:16.000 888-690-1277.

01:43:16.000 We'll give that out again in the next hour.

01:43:18.000 OK, I've got to go quick now.

01:43:19.000 Caller John New York.

01:43:21.000 Finish up what you were saying.

01:43:23.000 Alright, you're talking about $200 billion with Iraq there. 0.71

01:43:26.000 Initially in the Philippines they had a $3 billion investment by the big boys and it cost our taxpayers through the military $7 billion to keep them free.

01:43:34.000 Also they're talking on the Today Show this morning about bohemian styles, so it's just another twist of them trying to get bohemian in.

01:43:40.000 And they're talking about the memorial about Tim McVeigh hitting the Oklahoma Federal Building, and that's being promoted as just Timbuk Bay, and you should be doing something about promoting the truth about that again.

01:43:52.000 Meanwhile, Terry Nichols is coming out in his trial and exposing the fact of government informants involved in the bombing.

01:44:00.000 And just, hey, appreciate your show, Jay.

01:44:03.000 Thanks for the time.

01:44:04.000 Thank you.

01:44:05.000 Let's go ahead quickly now, and let's talk to Alex in North Carolina, Fred Roger, and others.

01:44:10.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:44:11.000 Hi, Alex.

01:44:12.000 Hi, Dr. Package.

01:44:14.000 Alex, I saw Martial Law and I want to tell you that seeing, since we spoke of Bohemians, watching that Bohemian get cornered by you and to see the smile go off his face and the color to drain out of his face was worth the price of admission alone. 0.58

01:44:28.000 I can't wait to get it on DVD.

01:44:30.000 It's just great.

01:44:30.000 Well, thank you.

01:44:31.000 It's out, so thank you.

01:44:33.000 What I wanted to say, though, was that I think what gets well-meaning people on the peak oil issue, and maybe people who are like halfway awake or still think maybe that Being on the left of the issue is the solution.

01:44:44.000 I think what gets them is the idea that it would be just as profitable for the globalists to have a real shortage as a fake one.

01:44:53.000 And, you know, the real shortage is maybe scarier.

01:44:55.000 Seems like a... Well, it's part of that fatalism.

01:44:58.000 They always want to think Planet X is going to get us, Y2K is going to get us, the peak oil is going to get us, because, oh, if everything's going to be destroyed next year, I don't have to do anything.

01:45:10.000 Well, and you know, what does that do to your buying patterns in the rest of your life?

01:45:14.000 I mean, we saw it before Y2K in the most extreme. 0.98

01:45:16.000 You know, a lot of people spent a lot of money getting ready for something that didn't happen, running up credit cards thinking there's not going to be a tomorrow.

01:45:24.000 And we can trace that back to the Naval report and the Y2K czar. 0.90

01:45:27.000 They said it was all going to happen until a few months before.

01:45:30.000 Then they said, we never said anything was going to happen.

01:45:32.000 Yeah, and that's exactly it.

01:45:33.000 And you know, these kinds of, again, fear and panic allow the country to drift a certain direction.

01:45:38.000 There was a paper that we've spoken about before called "The Revolution of Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War" put out by the US Army War College.

01:45:45.000 Alexander, yeah.

01:45:46.000 And this particular paper was talking about international terrorism and international drug trafficking as the major issues for the 1990s as a way to create fear and anxiety in order to bring in new technologies that the public would otherwise oppose.

01:46:02.000 That's the incredible part!

01:46:03.000 In their white papers, they say what they're going to do, and then exactly what they say happens.

01:46:08.000 Yep, and in this case, the things they were talking about were knocking out aircraft, for instance, using EMP, electromagnetic pulse.

01:46:16.000 In other words, being able to see maybe where a drug trafficker is transiting a country, pass the intelligence on, and then they could knock out the aircraft.

01:46:24.000 And there was a lot of discussion in this paper in 1989 about the constitutionality of, you know, because it kind of ignores the idea of juries and judges and those basic sort of things that we think... Have you heard the latest?

01:46:33.000 Bush is now coming out and saying one of the threats to freedom is law, and that we need to ignore law because it aids the terrorists?

01:46:42.000 No, I'm not kidding.

01:46:43.000 Yeah, I can absolutely believe it.

01:46:44.000 That's what you get when you elect a student out of an Ivy League school.

01:46:48.000 I mean, this guy is not thinking in terms of what is important to Americans.

01:46:55.000 Ignoring the law as a way to circumvent the rules for a more controlled and directed society is exactly what it's about.

01:47:03.000 Well, Gonzalez says Bush is the law.

01:47:06.000 Folks, that's called dictatorship, with a capital D. Anything else, Alex?

01:47:10.000 Um, have you ever had Lawrence Lessig on?

01:47:12.000 Because his book, um, um, what is it called, uh, is it something about like the, uh, code?

01:47:18.000 Code and the Law, or Code and the Basis of Law.

01:47:19.000 It's probably not the right title.

01:47:21.000 He basically talks about the fact that the corporations will simply circumvent any law they don't like.

01:47:25.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:47:26.000 Look, at the point we've reached, they don't even follow any law.

01:47:29.000 It's all just a facade.

01:47:30.000 Thanks for the call.

01:47:32.000 You know, Alex, on that line, think about the biggest bank robbery in the history of the country.

01:47:37.000 It was a trillion dollar FNL scandal, and how many people went to jail for that?

01:47:41.000 One or two.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, exactly the same kind of situation.

01:47:45.000 You knock off the corner 7-Eleven for 50 bucks, you're in for 10 years or longer.

01:47:50.000 These guys hijacked the entire U.S.

01:47:52.000 economy for a couple of years and forever in terms of paying the debt off.

01:47:56.000 And then one patch he gets two years in a federal building, and then five years later he's at presidential dinners again.

01:48:05.000 Yeah, exactly right.

01:48:06.000 Handing out bucks for whatever cause or social cause mitigates his guilt.

01:48:11.000 You know, I mean, the nonsense that has happened in this country at the hands of multinationals that continues to this day, whether you're talking the pharmaceutical industry, the telecommunications industry, or any of the major players, oil and gas, mineral interest, It is the government of special interest for special interest at our expense.

01:48:30.000 And again, that's not free market.

01:48:32.000 They are becoming the government.

01:48:33.000 That's all that's happening.

01:48:35.000 Let's talk to Fred in Pennsylvania.

01:48:37.000 Hi, Alex.

01:48:37.000 Fred, go ahead.

01:48:39.000 Hi.

01:48:41.000 I want to ask Dr. Beggars something, first of all.

01:48:45.000 I don't know that much about you, but you seem to have a number of degrees in science and not just medicine.

01:48:53.000 Is that true?

01:48:54.000 Well, I have a doctorate in traditional and complementary medicines, but I report on the sciences and I work with lots of specialists in a number of fields.

01:49:02.000 When we write, we actually send Yeah, the publications are full of scientists.

01:49:11.000 Yeah, and you'll see, like in the two main books, you'll see over Earth Rising, Earth Rising 2, our newest ones on the topics that we're covering today, those have over a thousand footnoted sources.

01:49:23.000 And these aren't conversations.

01:49:24.000 These are things you go to look at.

01:49:28.000 Let's talk about a couple patents that I've run into on free energy, and also Dr. Begich's book, The Coming Energy Revolution, with Jane Manning, which is an excellent book.

01:49:41.000 All right, we'll let you comment on that when we get back.

01:49:42.000 On the other side, we've got Dr. Begich with us into the next hour as well.

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01:54:57.000 Let's go back to... I guess we were talking to Fred in Pennsylvania.

01:55:02.000 Fred, finish up what you were saying for Dr. Baggage.

01:55:04.000 Okay.

01:55:07.000 The thing I wanted to say was that there's an earlier book by Dr. Baggage and Gene Manning called The Coming Energy Revolution, which It is great and it also has a section in there on the patent system and the patent impounding that can happen.

01:55:26.000 When you want to... Well let me get a comment from him on that.

01:55:29.000 Let me get a comment from him on that.

01:55:31.000 Dr. Bogich?

01:55:31.000 Sure.

01:55:32.000 The book was actually authored by Jean Manning.

01:55:34.000 She was my co-author on Angels Don't Play This Harp.

01:55:37.000 And I can tell you, Jean did an excellent job of putting that together.

01:55:41.000 It's got a great bibliography in the back.

01:55:43.000 Unfortunately, it's out of print, so you have to find it at libraries.

01:55:47.000 But the whole concept of alternative energy patents being confiscated, it actually goes way beyond energy patents.

01:55:54.000 The United States government, before any patent is issued, actually goes through a review process by every security agency.

01:56:00.000 And they say, is this allowable for national security?

01:56:04.000 Absolutely.

01:56:04.000 And that means, i.e., does it keep the big banks and the oil companies in place?

01:56:08.000 Absolutely.

01:56:09.000 And what happens is, is these patents routinely are confiscated under national security laws that forbid an individual from working on the technology, talking about the technology, they have to disclose everyone they've ever discussed it with, Uh, to those agencies, and the only way they can ever work on them again is within government labs that are sanctioned by those security agencies.

01:56:28.000 And then they take that selectively and use that for secret military projects, or they take a small part of a development and allow some big corporation to deploy it later.

01:56:36.000 Absolutely, and the little guy has no way to fight it, and then when they confiscate it, you know, the Constitution says you're supposed to be paid for things that are taken from you.

01:56:44.000 No just compensation?

01:56:46.000 None, because you have no way to go out and do a market survey to figure out what your stuff is worth because they won't let you talk about it.

01:56:52.000 So they basically pay you a pittance.

01:56:56.000 And here's the option.

01:56:57.000 Your option is treason.

01:56:59.000 You go to jail and you never see the light of day again.

01:57:01.000 Well it's like they'll track you down for ten years if you go to Serbia to play chess.

01:57:06.000 I mean, they tell you what you can do and how you can do it.

01:57:09.000 That's freedom.

01:57:10.000 That's right.

01:57:11.000 And you know, when you really look at it all, you know, justice and freedom in the United States unfortunately has a direct proportional relationship to the size of your wallet.

01:57:20.000 Well, it's an illusion in many respects.

01:57:22.000 Absolutely.

01:57:24.000 Freedom is not being able to go to any football game you want, folks.

01:57:27.000 Freedom is being able to raise your children and develop technologies and live your life and not drink poison in your water supply.

01:57:33.000 And I would add that, to boil it down with the patents, we could all have solar cars that drove 150 miles an hour, but we won't ever have it.

01:57:40.000 Thank you.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:09.000 This neo-feudal global slave grid is really following a mercantile model.

01:58:14.000 It's not free market.

01:58:16.000 Mercantilism was a French model where they were trying to Control the Renaissance.

01:58:21.000 They'd say, okay, you can own and have businesses, but it's got to be licensed through a representative of the crown and controlled as a sub-corporation of the crown.

01:58:30.000 And then they'd say, okay, well, let's say in this holding we've got in the Caribbean, you can't manufacture any finished goods or value-added goods, only raw materials.

01:58:40.000 And then they would play the different sectors off against each other economically.

01:58:44.000 It was just neo-feudalism.

01:58:47.000 And it's the same thing today.

01:58:49.000 Again, they have patented, this is mainstream, solar systems, solar panels that give you like five times the power of the conventional solar panels.

01:59:05.000 And that's why the globalists need global government. 0.88

01:59:08.000 So that no, quote, rogue nation is allowed to have that stuff developed in their country, Even though it was developed here 20 years ago, because then they could become dominant or a rival.

01:59:19.000 They've got to have global government to kind of freeze technological development at our plane of civilization, while behind the walls of national security, building technological spires where the elites have access to all those advanced technologies for themselves to suppress the general population and to extend their own lives.

01:59:40.000 Do you agree with that analysis, Dr. Bugich?

01:59:42.000 What you do, in fact, energy as a component, I mean if you really looked at energy being free or so low in cost that essentially it was as plentiful as, well I won't say fresh air because maybe that's not so plentiful anymore, but you know what I'm saying, as plentiful as the water in the sea, then you change everything.

02:00:02.000 Because when you think about energy as a cost, if you could free up what amounts to probably 20-25% of every dollar you spend at the end of the day really goes to energy, If you could pull that out and put that elsewhere in terms of paying for your education, or paying for your health care, paying for your groceries for goodness sake, what a difference!

02:00:21.000 Well, it also shatters the models of how our society is set up.

02:00:26.000 Absolutely.

02:00:26.000 I mean, independence and energy, not for countries, but for individuals, equals freedom in a technological age.

02:00:34.000 Independence and technology and access to technology that serves our interests and doesn't work against us is what is going to enhance our freedoms in a technological age.

02:00:43.000 You know, the very technologies used to degrade human performance, to be used as weapons of war, the whole array of non-lethals that we've talked about in the past, and we talk extensively within our books, This change is going to create a society that cannot just be directed by propaganda, but directed to direct control. 1.00

02:01:05.000 Well, look at what the energy of instant thought and communication, you know, the giant collective unconscious, which is real folks, being interfaced with the internet, is actually being turned against the globalists.

02:01:21.000 They're panicking.

02:01:22.000 Yeah, and the Internet as a transfer system for influencing human behavior, not just through propaganda, but through the use of energy oscillations that can be put on the Internet.

02:01:32.000 There was a publication in the former Soviet Union military publication called Orienteer that was translated and then enhanced in an article by Perimeters, which is U.S.

02:01:43.000 Army War College, called The Mind Has No Firewalls, which lays out quite clearly how these systems can be used In an April 7th this year story in the New Scientist, there's actually an article about a new Sony patent and some successor patents that actually can create the illusions.

02:02:02.000 All the sensory input from smell, touch, all of it can be created artificially under this patent.

02:02:11.000 So what they're looking at is they say even the blind and deaf people have a chance to hear the patent claims and see the patent claims.

02:02:18.000 But a way to manipulate the human brain to give you full illusions.

02:02:23.000 I mean, and this stuff is not something just being talked about in theory.

02:02:27.000 It actually exists in the patent record, and we quote military sources talking about how this is going to be used in Earthrise and the Revolution.

02:02:34.000 And it's a double-edged sword.

02:02:36.000 Absolutely.

02:02:36.000 Could really enhance us or degrade us.

02:02:38.000 Depends on who's driving the truck, whether it's delivering your mail or the next bomb.

02:02:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:05:45.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

02:05:50.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:05:54.000 All right, my friends.

02:05:55.000 Eight minutes, ten seconds into this third hour.

02:05:57.000 No matter what hour you're listening to this in and what time zone or what broadcast of this transmission against tyranny.

02:06:06.000 It's simple.

02:06:07.000 The globalist know technology is a double-edged sword.

02:06:09.000 They're the social architects, the controllers.

02:06:12.000 They are the progeny.

02:06:14.000 Their ancestors were the feudal rulers.

02:06:17.000 They enjoy controlling us.

02:06:19.000 They see us as cattle. 0.96

02:06:21.000 It's their pleasure to dumb us down and to feed on us. 0.93

02:06:24.000 They believe it's their right, their right of kings. 0.99

02:06:28.000 Dr. Begich talked last hour about how BP, British Petroleum, is predominantly owned by the Royal Family, who in tune owns much of the tabloids, this is admitted, that put out programs degrading themselves, acting like they're a bunch of poor fools. 0.97

02:06:45.000 You see how that propaganda works? 0.90

02:06:47.000 It's very sophisticated, and that's just one little piece of data.

02:06:51.000 Much of Canada is owned by the Royal Family.

02:06:53.000 Much of Australia is owned by them. 0.98

02:06:55.000 A lot of our big banks are owned by them.

02:06:57.000 Part of our Federal Reserve is owned by them. 1.00

02:06:58.000 This is all publicly available, but the average person... Oh, they're a bunch of fools over there, dressed up like clowns. 1.00

02:07:05.000 They don't have anything. 1.00

02:07:06.000 Well, the British government's got to pay for their palace when it burns down.

02:07:10.000 Really, the Queen owns almost all the right-of-ways in England and most of the land.

02:07:13.000 Again, people just don't know this.

02:07:19.000 And that's just one small facet.

02:07:20.000 So they know technology is here.

02:07:22.000 And they know it's either going to free us and decentralize things, Or they're going to use it to control us and dumb us down.

02:07:30.000 And Dr. Begich, we have things like New Freedom.

02:07:32.000 Talk about an Orwellian term.

02:07:35.000 Written by the drug companies.

02:07:36.000 That's been in mainstream news.

02:07:37.000 And it says, well, we've got 15% of the kids on these drugs now.

02:07:40.000 We're going to be able to get 50% on them by 2010.

02:07:45.000 And new patented drugs that aren't just serotonin reuptake inhibitors, but that affect two chemicals in the brains.

02:07:51.000 And we're going to force half of them on it.

02:07:53.000 People that don't believe that, on average, over two-thirds of foster children are already on these.

02:07:58.000 When they have a captive audience, over two-thirds.

02:08:01.000 Pushing 70-plus percent now.

02:08:04.000 So, it's worse than two-thirds.

02:08:06.000 I mean, this is what they do with a captive audience.

02:08:08.000 We have from 1.3 million in prison ten years ago to 7-plus mil now in the criminal justice system.

02:08:15.000 More people on welfare.

02:08:17.000 More people in the psychiatric system and the criminal justice system.

02:08:21.000 It's about institutionalization.

02:08:24.000 Then you read the globalist documents.

02:08:25.000 Once they've got the control grid fully in place, they actually talk about it.

02:08:29.000 Even some of these peak oil people who are the little phony grassroots agents.

02:08:33.000 They're out there talking about it.

02:08:35.000 We've got IMF World Bank documents with Henry Kissinger.

02:08:38.000 Sterilizer women are no money. 1.00

02:08:40.000 We catch them putting stuff in the vaccines to sterilize the women. 0.99

02:08:43.000 I mean, folks, this is real!

02:08:46.000 And I want to go back to calls, but Dr. Begich just kind of in some bullet points in a couple minutes.

02:08:52.000 What do you see happening if they win in 10 years and then 20?

02:08:57.000 And the Pentagon calls it the hive mind, what he was mentioning earlier, folks.

02:09:00.000 I didn't write it.

02:09:01.000 They said matrix-like system.

02:09:04.000 Plugs in all our heads.

02:09:05.000 Literally, folks, I didn't say this.

02:09:07.000 Plugging us into pleasure centers to control us.

02:09:10.000 If we're good, we get the pleasure.

02:09:12.000 Unlimited, I mean, you think drugs are bad that they control?

02:09:15.000 This dwarfs those.

02:09:17.000 This is right out of the Matrix.

02:09:19.000 In fact, that movie's a lot of stuff that the government was planning.

02:09:21.000 This sounds insane.

02:09:23.000 What are they going to build if we don't stop them?

02:09:25.000 Or what could things be like if we do stop them, and how do we stop them?

02:09:28.000 Here's a really important, a couple of important points.

02:09:31.000 You know, the issues of influencing human behavior and human memory.

02:09:35.000 This is a big topic for us that we've covered over the years.

02:09:38.000 In fact, it's a subject of a DVD we'll be releasing in the next week or so.

02:09:43.000 But this concept of influencing human behavior using not just chemical means, you know, because this issue of hitting school children with Psychoactive drugs actually goes back to the early 90s.

02:09:55.000 It was part of the first Bush administration's initiative and it got killed.

02:10:00.000 It was a $400 initiative that got killed.

02:10:03.000 People might remember the U.S.

02:10:05.000 News and World Report cover where it shows a little baby on the cover with a prison uniform on and it was the idea that somehow crime was genetically based and they were using this as the excuse to go into inner city schools, interview teachers, figure out... I've got to stop you again.

02:10:19.000 You bring up such good points.

02:10:20.000 Three months ago they had the hearings.

02:10:22.000 We have reporters there.

02:10:23.000 It was in the Associated Press.

02:10:24.000 And they said, they said, why are over two-thirds on drugs?

02:10:27.000 And the actual state psychiatrist and the head of the committee said, because their genetics are bad.

02:10:34.000 I mean, this is eugenics! 1.00

02:10:36.000 Yep, and this goes back to the Nazi Germany concept.

02:10:40.000 I mean, this is the kind of stuff they were doing there.

02:10:42.000 The fact is, a number of people rose up against this back in the early 90s, and they killed it, only delayed it.

02:10:49.000 As these things go, they figure out where they were weak and where they were strong, and they re-spin the story.

02:10:54.000 They're like the Borg!

02:10:55.000 Right.

02:10:55.000 Now, I'll give you an example of sort of the counterside of sort of the Ritalin part of the equation, at least that little component.

02:11:01.000 In the Minneapolis School District, a number of years ago, they started a charter school using a technique called neuro biofeedback or brain biofeedback something that I've lectured on over the years.

02:11:11.000 I have a good friend who was in NASA mind control programs as a child.

02:11:15.000 But this particular technology when it was applied they could take a child and within 30 to 40 one-hour sessions teach the child by feedback how to control their brain activity without any chemicals and what would happen is after 20-30 sessions the kids were coming off of Ritalin 80% of the school population at the end of the first year was off of all psychoactive drugs.

02:11:38.000 They were put back into regular ed classes.

02:11:40.000 They knew how to artificially, through their own mind, without any outside interference, move their brain into those areas where you can learn, where you can accelerate, where you're not hyperactive or you're not lethargic, but you're right in that right area.

02:11:53.000 The zone... Now that's just a little computer training aid, and I have read the studies.

02:11:57.000 No mind control.

02:11:58.000 They're not doing anything to the brain.

02:12:00.000 They show you little symbols and things, then you focus on them, and it teaches you how to control your brain.

02:12:05.000 But, again, the double-edged sword.

02:12:07.000 I have a friend who was in a magnet program, and from elementary schools, in a secret NASA program, where they were doing bad things.

02:12:16.000 Absolutely, and this is again, you know, when you start talking about the human brain, where you cross some lines that, you know, God won't even interfere with free will, yet man thinks he can and does.

02:12:26.000 This type of technology, though, goes a little bit further.

02:12:29.000 One of the things the military planned and looks forward to, and they mention it in SpaceCast 2020 and other documents, is this idea of creating artificial memory.

02:12:40.000 Now, think about that.

02:12:41.000 And they're thinking about it from training techniques to... Well, that was in Wired News last year.

02:12:46.000 It was called the Marshall Plan, was the name of the article.

02:12:48.000 And it was the futurist, you know, 89 years old.

02:12:51.000 Looks like Dr. Evil at the Pentagon.

02:12:53.000 He says, in the future, it won't be what weapons, but what drugs we have.

02:12:57.000 And then he talked about artificial memories.

02:12:59.000 Well, and in this case, you know, we actually have almost 100 sources quoted in a book we wrote in 1999 that draws all of this out.

02:13:08.000 And again, we tend to dig into some of the more obscure journals to pull our data, but they're all top line military journals that are public domain or academic reports.

02:13:18.000 Here's where that goes.

02:13:19.000 Think about training techniques that they're looking to evolve, where instead of spending a year in class learning a language, they can dump it into your brain in a few moments.

02:13:27.000 That's what they're looking for.

02:13:28.000 Now, when you think about compulsory education, And you look at that concept, and when you dump information in the human brain in this way, you bypass the things that sort out good and evil, right and wrong, and you go straight in as if it's, according to one Russian scientist, as if it's the word of God.

02:13:44.000 It cannot be avoided, and it cannot be resisted.

02:13:48.000 It's almost like a computer disk being overwritten.

02:13:50.000 Right, and that's exactly a great analogy because think about this in the terms of forced education in the public system.

02:13:57.000 You know, you go there unless you can pay for private schools.

02:14:00.000 Who develops the curriculum that goes in your kids' heads?

02:14:03.000 Now right now, kids come home with this stuff and you can sort it out and you can have your discussions in the household and maybe turn your kids back into the right direction.

02:14:12.000 But when it's dumped in in this way, there will be no turning them into any direction, but the direction that the government decides they ought to go, because the curriculum is regulated by them.

02:14:20.000 And this is how they'll sell it.

02:14:21.000 The rich and cool will be able to get it at first, and oh no, you can't have it.

02:14:25.000 Right.

02:14:25.000 And then a few years later, they even have Army War College documents of how to sell it to us, and they even talk about how to have it fad-driven, security-driven, and you know, I mentioned the hive mind.

02:14:34.000 Three years ago, Sydney Morning Herald picked up on it.

02:14:37.000 I called the scientist in the article, and she goes, I didn't even know this.

02:14:40.000 This isn't supposed to be public.

02:14:42.000 I'm sure you saw that, where they describe how we're going to be a hive mind by 2025?

02:14:46.000 Yep.

02:14:47.000 And this technology and the drift of the technology, if they're used correctly, can be great.

02:14:54.000 But the power is vested in secret organizations under national security or by private corporations exploiting it for their own interests.

02:15:02.000 And the fact is, we're the victims of this.

02:15:04.000 You know, people say, well, the American government won't victimize us.

02:15:07.000 You know, Secretary of Energy O'Leary Let me stop you.

02:15:09.000 Let's just give them one example of hundreds.

02:15:11.000 has been victims of human experimentation within the United States.

02:15:15.000 And you know that nobody has ever been held accountable for that.

02:15:18.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:15:19.000 Let's just give them one example of hundreds.

02:15:21.000 Pregnant wife. 1.00

02:15:22.000 She's at the military base.

02:15:24.000 Oh, take some vitamins, honey.

02:15:26.000 They're uranium pills.

02:15:27.000 Then they say, come back and see us.

02:15:28.000 When she comes in with a miscarriage, they roll film cameras in and start taping her having the miscarriage. 0.98

02:15:33.000 Killing babies! 0.88

02:15:34.000 Just because they're putting a young sergeant in a containment facility, spraying him with sarin gas. 1.00

02:15:40.000 Killing him!

02:15:41.000 Dr. Baggage, where do they find researchers that'll do this? 0.96

02:15:44.000 Well, they protect them.

02:15:45.000 Well, let me give you an example.

02:15:46.000 get information under a Funeral Information Act when it was valid and you could actually get something, they would delete all of the scientists' names.

02:15:52.000 Because, you know, parents would look at it, and most of these people are in academic institutions, you know, they wouldn't want their kids taught by people engaging in the ethical behavior these guys do.

02:16:01.000 They're insulated.

02:16:02.000 Well, let me give you an example.

02:16:03.000 I have a friend who's high level at the UT Psychology Department.

02:16:06.000 That's all I'll say.

02:16:07.000 And I was in there just doing a documentary because it has interesting hallways and, you know, places to, you know, to do interviews.

02:16:14.000 But most of the places classified, and I wasn't let into any classified areas, but everything I was allowed to see was DARPA this, DARPA that.

02:16:22.000 It was all about mind control that wasn't even hidden!

02:16:25.000 Well, you know, DARPA took over the HAARP project here in Alaska a year or so ago, and it's no longer run by the Air Force and Navy, which one of the objections that we've had And the European Parliament has had, and the Russian Duma has had, is the mind control capacity of this device.

02:16:40.000 Is it 90% of now college funding being run by the government?

02:16:45.000 So that gives them total control over R&D?

02:16:47.000 Absolutely.

02:16:48.000 And what happens is it's a slow corruption.

02:16:51.000 It happens over time.

02:16:53.000 People get locked into these programs.

02:16:55.000 They're making their living.

02:16:56.000 They're raising their families.

02:16:58.000 They find themselves increasingly like one slice at a time.

02:17:01.000 The frog boiling in the water.

02:17:02.000 You don't know it until the water is boiling.

02:17:05.000 And then they're locked in, you know, and it takes a very unusual person to be courageous enough to stand up.

02:17:12.000 And step out of that and go through the risks and the harassment.

02:17:15.000 Aren't you naturally though also going to just see individuals that whatever they come up with that will be just innately immune to it?

02:17:22.000 Yep.

02:17:23.000 And the other part is compartmentalization.

02:17:25.000 A lot of people don't even know what the heck they're working on and how it feeds the next step in the process.

02:17:29.000 And that often happens as well.

02:17:31.000 Alright, I promise we'll go straight to your calls on the other side.

02:17:34.000 Riveting discussions with Dr. Nick Baggage.

02:17:37.000 And I'll see if I can wrangle him to stay for the rest of the hour, or at least we can talk about some other technology after we take calls.

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02:21:58.000 Is the law needed to ban microchip implants in humans?

02:22:02.000 Legislator is introducing the bill.

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02:22:18.000 Right now, let's go ahead and go to Roger in Pennsylvania, then Tim, Michael, other Tim hung up, Phil, and John.

02:22:26.000 That'll be it for calls.

02:22:27.000 Those next five.

02:22:28.000 Roger, go ahead.

02:22:29.000 Yeah, thanks, Jensen.

02:22:31.000 Even in the somewhat highbrow, atheist, behaviorist, determinist, you're not responsible for yourself circles are somewhat giving way to the retraining your brain through, I think the catchphrase, if I recall, is the quantum zero effect.

02:22:45.000 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but the idea of influencing behavior technologically is something that we've been reporting on for years.

02:22:54.000 It's an issue that we think is probably... I personally am committing the next five years to Really pushing this issue into the public domain.

02:23:04.000 I had a transhumanist on who said, you can't hold the rest of us up.

02:23:07.000 We're going to make you take brain chips. 1.00

02:23:10.000 Yeah, and I mean this is, I think this is probably the way we handled the heart issue in the 90s.

02:23:15.000 We're going to handle the idea of influencing human behavior because we think people need to know what's out there.

02:23:22.000 It's extremely important, the most invasive technology on the planet.

02:23:26.000 And the delivery systems are incredible.

02:23:29.000 I mean, you don't even have to go to a country to influence what can happen within it.

02:23:32.000 If you can hook into their telecommunications systems or their energy grid.

02:23:37.000 There was a great story that was done, a documentary on undercurrents, February 7th, 1999, CBC TV in Canada on mind control.

02:23:47.000 They interviewed me as well as ...number of researchers from around the world.

02:23:51.000 This technology exists today.

02:23:54.000 The idea that you can influence what a person thinks or their emotional state is not new.

02:23:59.000 It has been around for decades and it's being perfected and the delivery systems are being enlarged to the point where there will be no escaping.

02:24:07.000 And don't think the crowd that put sodium fluoride in your water won't use this.

02:24:12.000 No, in fact, even in Zbigniew Brzezinski's book, he talks about mind control technologies, and he said it doesn't matter who's in power, liberal or conservative, the temptation to use technology to further their political ends would be taken.

02:24:27.000 And what about, at the same time, we have the sound wave cannons, the microwave cannons, they have the sound wave guns in New York, it's in my new film.

02:24:37.000 Roger, I think?

02:24:38.000 Yeah, Alex, I called about Art Bell last night.

02:24:42.000 Okay.

02:24:42.000 Which was, my hack and cough kept me awake to hear him say that in honor of today's record high oil prices, which we all know is 99% the Illuminati theft of the wealth out of our dollar, a thought that never occurred to him at the time, but so he's going to celebrate this fact by having a guest on to resurrect the Yeah, thanks for the call.

02:25:09.000 It's not a myth because they're going to manufacture it, but they're record oil supplies.

02:25:15.000 Thank you, Roger.

02:25:17.000 Let's talk to Tim in Ohio.

02:25:18.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:25:19.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:25:20.000 Excellent show today.

02:25:21.000 Dr. Pegg, it's quite an honor to speak with you, sir.

02:25:21.000 Thank you.

02:25:23.000 Well, thank you very much.

02:25:24.000 I wanted to ask you a question about a correlation, perhaps, between this new disease that's emerging called Morgellons disease and the chemtrails.

02:25:33.000 I was doing some research on the internet and I saw some photos where this fibrous material sometimes autofluorescent blue and red along with black granules were coming out of these like pencil head size eraser tip sores on people's bodies.

02:25:49.000 A lot of them have had Lyme disease in the past and I was just wondering if there's any correlation at all because I know aluminum quartz and carbon black are three of the substances within the chemtrails.

02:26:00.000 Well there's a lot of new quote diseases that they misdiagnosed because of all the toxic stuff they're putting into the environment.

02:26:07.000 Dr. Begich comments?

02:26:08.000 Yeah I think you know there's the idea of toxins contributing to you know changes in general health and the emergence of new diseases I think is a big part of it but there's another component.

02:26:19.000 A friend of mine at MIT, Nicholas Ashford, had done some work in this area and actually there's this whole controversy over false hormones in the food supply that actually caused the feminization of species that's been noted in Arctic regions.

02:26:34.000 Well I mean that's in frogs, that's in fish, that's in humans, men, and I mean they admit that's why eight-year-old girls look like they're 15 now?

02:26:44.000 Yep, and what's happening when you add in, and I asked Nicholas about this, I said you know what happens when you add in the electromagnetic components because you can actually enhance chemical reactions in the body.

02:26:56.000 And accelerate mutations?

02:26:58.000 Yeah, and you can really create some huge complex problems.

02:27:01.000 And his statement to me was, Nick, I don't want to get into this because we're already having a hard enough time explaining this issue, much less complicated.

02:27:09.000 He goes, I understand the issue, but it's just too early to bring it out.

02:27:14.000 And that's been the problem.

02:27:14.000 Bottom line, don't drink out of plastic.

02:27:17.000 Absolutely.

02:27:19.000 Absolutely.

02:27:19.000 You know, there are so many things we can do to enhance our health.

02:27:22.000 We need to start paying attention to those things, build our health, build our potentials, and let's take the challenges to the next level, which is to change the way we see the world.

02:27:30.000 We're gonna take more calls when we get back and plunge into otherness.

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02:30:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:30:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:31:00.000 And now, your highness, we'll discuss the location of your hidden rebel base.

02:31:05.000 Ah, pretty good voiceover, folks.

02:31:07.000 That was done with no aid of any, uh, any, uh, you know, computer stuff here on the mixing board.

02:31:14.000 Alright, just having some fun there with my little Marvin the Martian imitations.

02:31:20.000 You know, you've got to have fun with this stuff every once in a while just to keep yourself happy.

02:31:25.000 I mean, just because a lot of strange things are happening.

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02:31:29.000 We're about to go back to Dr. Baggage and take three final calls, and then I want to get into tectonic, seismic, volcanic weapons.

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02:34:47.000 Dr. Bagich, let's go right back to the calls here quickly.

02:34:52.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to the next caller.

02:34:56.000 Let's talk to Michael in New York.

02:35:00.000 Michael, go ahead.

02:35:01.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

02:35:03.000 Hello.

02:35:03.000 Great show.

02:35:04.000 Alex, looking forward to your new DVD, and I'm going to make copies, as I always do, and distribute them the best I can.

02:35:11.000 Good.

02:35:11.000 I want to get to, well, great work, Alex.

02:35:13.000 I want to get to the energy topic, but first, the last comment by the good doctor.

02:35:18.000 It segues into something about a new book I'm writing, Secrets in the Fountain of Youth, The Art of Living.

02:35:24.000 And it will give all the secrets to everybody in layman terms, so they can be invulnerable to ever getting sick, and if they follow all the laws and principles, they will actually... Let me just say this, sir.

02:35:35.000 We're meant to die to leave room for the next wave of our progeny. 0.97

02:35:41.000 Certainly we can extend life up to 150 years, and there's a lot of things we can do to help ourselves.

02:35:47.000 You know, just because we haven't taken care of ourselves, whether we're 10 years old or 50, doesn't mean we can't start reversing that.

02:35:54.000 But, uh, you know, you say you got the fountain of youth?

02:35:56.000 Yes, sir, Alex, you're right.

02:35:58.000 We're all meant to die eventually, but it's the quality of life while we're here that matters.

02:36:03.000 Not the quantity, per se.

02:36:05.000 And, you know, the chemtrails, and we know we're being bombarded by the dark forces to destroy our health.

02:36:10.000 Any questions or comments for our guest?

02:36:14.000 Are you there, sir?

02:36:14.000 Yes, yes.

02:36:15.000 Well now, with the energy.

02:36:17.000 Okay, the doctor covered really well why these alternatives that exist, why they're suppressed still, and how come these inventors aren't allowed to get them out because of this thing called treason.

02:36:26.000 But what we have to do now, Alex, is to show the people that they are the traitors.

02:36:32.000 And demonstrate these technologies in videos.

02:36:34.000 There's a video out called Zero Point Technology, demonstrating engines that run on water and so forth.

02:36:40.000 Get the people now also aware of the fact that these technologies do exist.

02:36:47.000 They are the traitors for not letting us have access to them.

02:36:51.000 Letting the inventors sell them.

02:36:55.000 I hear you.

02:36:55.000 Thanks for the call.

02:36:56.000 I've got really good points.

02:36:57.000 We're just running low on time here with a lot of other callers and news I want to cover.

02:37:01.000 I just want to say this about Zero Point.

02:37:02.000 The Globalists are masters of doing propaganda pieces. 0.79

02:37:05.000 You know, 15 years ago, or longer, they come out, oh, Zero Point, then they make a joke about how it was in a mayonnaise jar, make fun of it, then try to discredit it forever.

02:37:15.000 When all these top scientific publications admit this stuff's going on, they just don't have ways of properly tapping into it yet, Dr. Baggage comments.

02:37:22.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:37:23.000 In fact, one of the big alternative conferences back in, I believe it was 2001 or 2002, NASA and Great Britain actually announced their projects in this type of energy research that have been going on for years.

02:37:37.000 The reality is the technology will evolve if it hasn't already, and we just haven't gotten it into the mainstream, but it challenges, you know, the big multinational industrial complex that exists today based on an oil economy.

02:37:51.000 The reality is These things don't change overnight.

02:37:54.000 It takes time to produce equipment, produce things, and change energy systems.

02:37:59.000 I think it's the control issue that's more important to these folks who will control that technology.

02:38:06.000 Even companies, the big ones, are now investing millions into companies and buying up companies that are involved in alternatives.

02:38:13.000 Right here in Austin, Texas, they're doing it.

02:38:15.000 Yep, and it's for two reasons.

02:38:17.000 One is to suppress, and one is to make sure they get a market share at the end of the day in the event that things break out.

02:38:22.000 Yeah, what they do is they take real technologies, from my study, correct me if I'm wrong, and hybridize them to where they don't really work one-tenth as well, but the global is controlling.

02:38:31.000 Yeah, I think that's absolutely true.

02:38:33.000 The hydrogen economy is a prime example.

02:38:35.000 material that acts as a catalyst that can crack water and be recycled where you don't need a distribution system.

02:38:42.000 You just need water, purified water, so there won't be gas stations.

02:38:46.000 There wouldn't be a worrying about where you're going to bring the hydrogen into the car.

02:38:50.000 Well, for those that don't get this, let me just say it again like I said last hour.

02:38:53.000 It is admitted.

02:38:53.000 Major mainstream publications demonstrate it.

02:38:57.000 Chinese military buying it.

02:38:58.000 Our Pentagon buying it.

02:38:59.000 They have cheap, effective solar cells that are five times, and are even smaller, more power than the best of the last generation.

02:39:12.000 We could right now have the mass-distributing solar cars that have full power, work wonderfully, no fuel involved, but they're not letting us have it.

02:39:23.000 That's exactly it.

02:39:24.000 That would revolutionize everything!

02:39:26.000 It would.

02:39:27.000 And these are just segments of what's happening.

02:39:31.000 20-year-old technology.

02:39:32.000 Yep.

02:39:32.000 And when you look at what's now possible in independent labs, I mean, if somebody really comes through with some of the zero-point technologies, the only way they're going to make it in the mainstream is if they're given away for free.

02:39:44.000 Because they're going to have to get it out there somehow.

02:39:46.000 And as soon as you enter the patent process, as we talked last hour, this stuff is suppressed right there.

02:39:52.000 There's a great book out, Suppressed Inventions.

02:39:54.000 If it's still in print, it's one worth reading. 0.99

02:39:56.000 Yeah, for those that don't know, they let the quacks run around and act like fools and scam people. 1.00

02:40:00.000 Real scientists, and there are just hundreds of documented cases of this. 0.97

02:40:03.000 They get killed, they get threatened, they have their stuff taken from them.

02:40:06.000 There's U.S. 0.96

02:40:07.000 laws about this.

02:40:08.000 This is real!

02:40:09.000 Yep.

02:40:10.000 Yeah, and again, you know, when you look at, again, technologies, the opportunities in technology are fantastic for changing everything about what we do and how we do it in very positive ways, but that is not... And I think they're worried about being able to suppress it.

02:40:23.000 That's why they're going to the police state right now.

02:40:25.000 I mean, think about it.

02:40:25.000 You bet.

02:40:26.000 If human beings, instead of using, you know, 6 or 8 percent of our brains, could use 50 or 60 percent of our brains, and some of the technology that's emerging might allow us to do some of this, You are not a controlled person.

02:40:38.000 You are someone with an incredible potential that no longer can be influenced by these sound bites that come across the media.

02:40:46.000 You're a thinking person that fully engaged in living as a human being was intended to.

02:40:51.000 I don't know about being 60% smarter.

02:40:54.000 Well, it's a matter of... I mean, I don't think I'm that smart now, but man, my brain's got so much stuff bouncing around in it.

02:41:01.000 But it's the whole issue of organizing it, and you know, that's where a lot of the technologies that support enhancing human performance, where we're in control of what goes on, whether we're addressing, as the last caller said, the very simple health issues or more complex things, We need the power vested in individuals, not vested in governments with some centralized beehive mentality.

02:41:22.000 You're right.

02:41:23.000 Let's take two final calls.

02:41:24.000 I've got to really hurry here.

02:41:26.000 I don't want to hit those two final items, the microchips and the seismic weapons with you.

02:41:30.000 Let's talk to Phil in Virginia.

02:41:34.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:41:35.000 Yes, I've got to catch my second breath here with all the ground you've covered.

02:41:39.000 It really wore me out.

02:41:41.000 Alex Jones, you're a great Texan.

02:41:43.000 Nick Begich, you're a great Alaskan.

02:41:45.000 Well, thanks.

02:41:48.000 Is there any truth to the fact that, or to the report that I heard, that George Herbert Walker Bush bought into all the oil tankers that supply the United States?

02:42:00.000 He bought into a bunch of them.

02:42:02.000 Prior to 9-11?

02:42:03.000 Yeah.

02:42:05.000 That I'm not familiar with, but Alex apparently is.

02:42:09.000 They've been bought into oil tankers for decades.

02:42:12.000 Well, the report was that he really bought into all of them that supply the United States.

02:42:19.000 Well, they're bought into the big private prison companies, they're bought into the military companies.

02:42:23.000 I mean, they said the Cold War is over, defense stocks are dead, then the Karloff Group bought them all up, you know, in the early nineties, and then now they jacked them back up.

02:42:32.000 They know what they're doing with insider knowledge.

02:42:35.000 This is the epitome of evil, folks.

02:42:35.000 We know that.

02:42:39.000 But suppressing the technology to keep us in the bondage.

02:42:44.000 Great program, and you guys, may Yahweh be with you.

02:42:49.000 Well, God bless you, my friend.

02:42:50.000 Thank you.

02:42:51.000 No, I mean, folks, I mean, they try to push these little solar cars that go 50 miles an hour on us and don't work.

02:42:58.000 I would love a solar car, and they've got them, but they've got the technology where you're talking no more fuel, folks!

02:43:07.000 Wow, it's unbelievable.

02:43:08.000 Yeah.

02:43:09.000 Yeah, it's just a matter of really seeing the technologies work for us and there's so many things working against us right now.

02:43:18.000 Fortunately, there's still enough independent scientists out there where we may still see some of these breakthroughs happen, whether they like it or not.

02:43:27.000 Especially if there's rogue nations that don't play ball.

02:43:29.000 That's exactly it.

02:43:30.000 And you know, interfering with everyone else's sovereignty shouldn't be the business of the United States unless our own is threatened.

02:43:36.000 And that's something else that we've forgotten.

02:43:38.000 And our sovereignty is threatened by those that are running this New World Order.

02:43:41.000 They're getting rid of our sovereignty.

02:43:42.000 Absolutely.

02:43:43.000 A slice at a time to the point where You're talking about legislation at the local level on implant technologies?

02:43:50.000 It'll be preempted at the national level.

02:43:52.000 I mean, if these things can be done at the local level, they should be, because at least it starts to generate the kind of debate that I'm talking about.

02:43:59.000 Over 400 cities have thrown out the Patriot Act, and now they're panicking.

02:44:02.000 Let's take a final call.

02:44:04.000 John in Tennessee, go ahead.

02:44:05.000 Well, Alex, I think this is a very good topic today.

02:44:10.000 You guys are right on point when you're talking about a lot of this stuff at the press.

02:44:14.000 There was an article In popular science, I think.

02:44:19.000 I know they're not that reliable, but they did have a little bit of truth accidentally put in here.

02:44:24.000 They were talking about how the Department of Energy is now reviewing cold fusion because there have been so many experimenters that have shown that it actually seems to be working.

02:44:32.000 It works.

02:44:34.000 It's been replicated over 6,000 times across the planet.

02:44:38.000 It works.

02:44:38.000 Now the question is, can they get enough energy out of it to run a machine?

02:44:42.000 And, you know, when you don't take it seriously, none of those big dollars from the think tanks in the world and the academic institutions or governments flow into the research.

02:44:52.000 But they're already gearing up to try to suppress people from actually being able to use this on their own.

02:44:56.000 This, from this article, it was saying, Marlowe told PM that scores of coal fusion experiments have revealed the production of enriched uranium or tritium.

02:45:07.000 And so then they...

02:45:08.000 Oh, Al-Qaeda!

02:45:09.000 Right, right.

02:45:10.000 The same tabletop devices that fulfill mankind's dream of creating unlimited quantities of cheap power may also be the source of the world's greatest nightmare.

02:45:19.000 Yeah, we've got to control them or Al-Qaeda is going to get us.

02:45:22.000 Exactly.

02:45:23.000 So they've already geared up.

02:45:24.000 And you know, most of these reactors work on having a palladium cell.

02:45:28.000 I think that's the name.

02:45:30.000 Yeah, so they're planning, my prediction is they're planning to say, oh, this is a restricted material, nobody can have it.

02:45:36.000 Well, they've already grabbed, you know, look, look, Dr. Baggage is a real environmentalist and he just told you, and we have the documents on this, last hour.

02:45:44.000 That the big environmental groups are controlled by big foundations to grab resources so they're off limits so we can't develop them.

02:45:51.000 And so they'll just grab the areas where this is mined. 0.99

02:45:54.000 Yeah, exactly right.

02:45:55.000 And over time, they'll come back out.

02:45:57.000 And you know, it's not the little guy in these environmental groups that even has a clue.

02:46:01.000 You know, they think they're doing some great work, when really what they're doing is they're the bank clerk for the next multinational company's hijacking.

02:46:08.000 Well, look at who funds all the environmental shows, or the environmental message on every animal show, every technology show.

02:46:15.000 Look at National Geographic.

02:46:17.000 That thing's paid for by Dutch Shell.

02:46:19.000 Yep.

02:46:20.000 Yep, and you'll see it through most of these programs, and it's just more propaganda.

02:46:24.000 Here in Alaska, where we're an oil-producing state, and there in Texas, where you're an oil-producing state, I'm sure you get your share of what a great partnership we have with these guys as well.

02:46:33.000 And it's just propaganda.

02:46:34.000 You know, one guy in the oil industry said here to one of the labor leaders in this state, If you had the money that we had, you could own this legislature, too.

02:46:43.000 And that tells it all, because this is the most bought-and-paid-for legislature in the country, and it's bought with oil dollars, and it's the most corrupted legislature that's ever been in the history of this state.

02:46:53.000 They're buying it with your money.

02:46:54.000 Thanks for the call.

02:46:56.000 We've got a minute and a half before we break here.

02:46:58.000 Got the headline.

02:47:00.000 It's the law needed to ban microchip implants in humans.

02:47:03.000 Representative Marlon Schneider doesn't want government getting under your skin.

02:47:08.000 The Wisconsin Rapids Democrat is introducing a bill that would prohibit anyone, including government employees, from acquiring microchip implants in people.

02:47:16.000 Other applications aren't regulated by the FDA.

02:47:18.000 Applied digital tout security, defense homeland security, and making travelers have chips to access their luggage, flights, and airlines.

02:47:26.000 Law enforcement records.

02:47:28.000 The Mexican Attorney General makes his employees take them.

02:47:31.000 I mean, we're talking about having to have laws now to block this.

02:47:34.000 Doctor?

02:47:35.000 Absolutely.

02:47:35.000 And you know, this is exactly what's happening.

02:47:38.000 You know, identity theft is going to be used as the fear button to make this happen.

02:47:42.000 They're already hyping it as the biggest crime in America, but it's also the least prosecuted crime in America.

02:47:48.000 Well, they created the platform that has allowed this!

02:47:51.000 Yep, and the ability to track this kind of fraud is certainly there, because most of it's electronic, and you can track those transactions.

02:47:58.000 They do it already.

02:47:59.000 But the reality is it creates a sense of fear and anxiety that feeds on itself to the point where better and better IDs are required by the masses, to the point where implant technologies will be thought of as the only way You can look at the revolution of military affairs and conflict short of war, and it tells it all.

02:48:18.000 And it's over, now, 16 years old.

02:48:21.000 Alright, I want to talk about seismic weapons as we wrap up this transmission against tyranny.

02:48:27.000 Unbelievable, this interview has been powerful, and it'll be posted at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:48:33.000 U.S.

02:48:33.000 Intel once considered causing huge quake.

02:48:36.000 Top Secret Project talked of producing tsunamis with nuclear weapons.

02:48:41.000 We'll be back.

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02:52:16.000 Right, we have two new DVDs.

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02:52:52.000 Right.

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02:52:56.000 It actually has a chapter dedicated to those subjects.

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02:53:09.000 We also talk about this quote by William Cohen from 97, and this whole idea of manipulating a geophysical event.

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02:53:29.000 Give it again, please.

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02:53:33.000 Or earthpulse.com?

02:53:34.000 That's correct.

02:53:35.000 Alright, earthpulse.com.

02:53:37.000 Seismic weapons.

02:53:38.000 Cohen says, yeah, in the future it's going to be seismic and volcanic weapons.

02:53:42.000 You got that quote in front of you?

02:53:43.000 Yeah, it is.

02:53:44.000 It says, others are engaging even in a type of eco-terrorism whereby they can alter climates, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

02:53:53.000 This is a quote from a conference on international terrorism and weapons of mass destruction from 1997.

02:53:58.000 That was picked up by the AP, by the way.

02:54:00.000 Right.

02:54:01.000 And this, you know, we wrote about it back in 99, again, to bring attention to the idea that if the technology is so unsophisticated that terrorist states can have it, you can only imagine what we have.

02:54:13.000 Well, it's like Dick Cheney in the September 2000 PNAC document says we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons to target certain races.

02:54:21.000 He should be arrested immediately!

02:54:23.000 He's saying he wants to get us used to accepting race weapons. 0.97

02:54:28.000 Yep, and the technology exists to be able to genetically target blacks or Middle Easterners or Orientals. 0.98

02:54:36.000 Or whites. 0.98

02:54:37.000 Or whites, absolutely. 0.72

02:54:39.000 And, you know, when you look at all this technology, you know, in terms of environmental manipulation, there was actually a treaty we signed back in 1977 where we agreed to not use these technologies for creating tsunamis or volcanic eruptions.

02:54:53.000 What about this news that first surfaced days after the tsunami and has now admitted U.S.

02:54:58.000 had a secret program and said it was feasible to create tsunamis?

02:55:02.000 There's no question about the ability to do it.

02:55:05.000 That's the 1946.

02:55:06.000 Right.

02:55:08.000 And this goes back to using atomic weapons for creating that effect.

02:55:12.000 But you don't need to do that.

02:55:13.000 And that's what this new science is showing, is that if you create, if you have already unstable areas, and you add energy in, in the form of electromagnetic waves, you can trigger these events.

02:55:25.000 It's like the primer on a bullet, you know?

02:55:27.000 The primer doesn't release very much energy, it's the gunpowder that does.

02:55:32.000 And the same is true in the planet.

02:55:34.000 It's not the planet is the holder of the energy, it's man that can tickle that just enough to release it, to burst it forward, just like a primer on a primer.

02:55:42.000 Last question, your gut level, what do you think happened with the mega quake, and now the new quakes?

02:55:48.000 Well, you know, my personal view is it's probably natural, but we've not seen anything yet, and a good deal of this could be... That's what I think.

02:55:55.000 Do you think it's caused by the sun heating up?

02:55:58.000 I think there's, the sun is certainly having a factor, there's some Earth shifts happening, and that's the subject for probably another program, but there's a lot going on within the planet that is going to change everything that we know.

02:56:09.000 Alright, Dr. Bagich, incredible having you on.

02:56:13.000 I want to get you up a little bit more than once a year, my friend.

02:56:16.000 Absolutely, I'm always available to you, Alex, and I appreciate you putting these issues on the air, and God bless your audience, and God bless your family.

02:56:22.000 You too, sir.

02:56:23.000 Vaya con Dios.

02:56:25.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight Central, back tomorrow 11 to 2.

Alex Jones Show - April 11, 2005

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