Alex Jones Show - 20050413_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:42.000 It is Wednesday, the 13th day.

00:00:46.000 And I appreciate you joining us for this live April edition.

00:00:51.000 We'll have wide open phones.

00:00:54.000 Coming up in the next hour we have that college professor who has a very popular course she's offering titled 9-1-1 the road to tyranny.

00:01:06.000 You may have heard that That string of words, that title before.

00:01:15.000 And she'll be on with us in the second hour, not just to talk about 9-11, but also some of the pressure and demonization that she has faced since she first started offering this course that is now being considered to be offered by the college itself.

00:01:34.000 Thousands flee Sumatra Volcano!

00:01:37.000 There was another big earthquake in the same area over the weekend.

00:01:42.000 Suddenly a volcano erupted and began spewing molten fire gas and ash all across Sumatra Island spreading new panic after the recent tsunami and earthquakes and driving thousands from their homes.

00:02:00.000 The earth is becoming a lot more active In its tectonic activities, and we need to get some top volcanologists and seismologists on the broadcast to discuss this.

00:02:16.000 Scientists rush to destroy pandemic flu strain.

00:02:22.000 World Health Organization concerned samples may set off global epidemic.

00:02:29.000 They just accidentally sent a deadly flu strain to 5,000 laboratories around the country.

00:02:35.000 Just like four years ago, the military, the U.S.

00:02:39.000 military went and dug up the dead bodies of whalers frozen in permafrost up near the North Pole because they had live virus in their lungs and then suddenly, they think we forget, four years later they start saying Magically, the 1918 influenza pandemic that killed 50 million people, it's going to re-emerge!

00:03:05.000 We don't know why!

00:03:07.000 It just is!

00:03:10.000 Don't worry, we've got some injections for you.

00:03:14.000 We're your government.

00:03:18.000 You can trust us.

00:03:21.000 So we'll be going over that.

00:03:22.000 The labs are being urged to destroy the pandemic flu strain.

00:03:27.000 5,000 laboratories.

00:03:28.000 And that'll be their excuse when the globalists release it.

00:03:32.000 Oh, somebody didn't destroy it and they'll arrest some innocent person at a laboratory and claim that they're a militia member who works with Al Qaeda.

00:03:42.000 That's a probable script.

00:03:45.000 Scientists scramble again to destroy the flu strain.

00:03:50.000 Meanwhile, fear as this Ebola-type virus breaks out in different areas of Africa.

00:03:58.000 Now they're shutting down isolation wards, not even giving the people treatment that are in them.

00:04:04.000 Art exhibit featuring Bush stamped, probed.

00:04:08.000 Gotta shut down those works of art, because again, Al-Qaeda paints pictures. 0.91

00:04:14.000 U.S.

00:04:15.000 monthly trade gap widens to $61 billion.

00:04:18.000 That's per month!

00:04:20.000 They tell us it's good for the economy.

00:04:24.000 Knife-wielding man holds German children in cellar.

00:04:27.000 That's going on right now, according to Reuters, and my answer is ban all knives.

00:04:32.000 It's the knives' fault.

00:04:33.000 Ban all guns, too.

00:04:35.000 Army Reserve is charged in border detention, not associated with the Minutemen.

00:04:41.000 He just got back from Iraq.

00:04:43.000 He thought this was just normal, what he was doing.

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00:07:58.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 Alright, April 13th, 2005, Wednesday edition.

00:08:26.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:08:31.000 Coming up the next hour, we have Professor Christensen joining us.

00:08:35.000 She offers the course titled, 9-11 The Road to Tyranny.

00:08:39.000 It's gotten a lot of attention.

00:08:40.000 It's very popular at the college.

00:08:43.000 But the globalists have been complaining and threatening her and they're very, very upset about it.

00:08:49.000 Of course, my film, Road to Tyranny, is used in the curriculum along with a lot of other great documentaries, books, and of course just mainstream news articles, legislation, and documents.

00:09:03.000 And I've got the study course here in front of me.

00:09:05.000 We also have it via PDF file on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:09:10.000 So that's coming up.

00:09:14.000 in the next hour.

00:09:15.000 Well, thousands fled the Sumatran volcano, and they had another huge earthquake in that area of the world, where most of this activity has been centered since it really spiked December 26th of last year with a megaquake, 9.2.

00:09:33.000 That is just ultra-massive.

00:09:36.000 And it killed over 200,000 people via the tsunami that was generated by it.

00:09:47.000 And since then there have been a bunch of other earthquakes, not of that magnitude, but in the mid to high eights.

00:09:53.000 Volcanoes from From Scandinavia all the way to the United States with Mount St.

00:10:01.000 Helens, to Latin America, to Africa, just all over the world, extinct volcanoes are becoming active again.

00:10:15.000 It's not the proper term.

00:10:16.000 Active is when they're actually churning and smoking.

00:10:19.000 Extinct volcanoes have been reawakened And are no longer extinct.

00:10:26.000 They're now just calling them dormant.

00:10:28.000 That is because baffle lifts or the magma chambers are becoming filled again.

00:10:36.000 And then dormant volcanoes are becoming active again.

00:10:43.000 Very unusual, but of course this is just in the scale of modern history.

00:10:48.000 This is some of the greatest volcanic activity we've seen in the last 500 years.

00:10:55.000 But don't forget Krakatoa, 160-something years ago, blowing up.

00:11:01.000 Don't forget things like Pompeii, killing almost everyone in that city.

00:11:08.000 I mean, we read the old history books, we read the history books from thousands of... the historical texts from thousands of years ago, and this was a routine occurrence all over the world, where it was recorded, from China, to Japan, to the Mediterranean, to what is Western Europe today, and the Americas.

00:11:32.000 But it is definitely increasing Two record levels in modern history.

00:11:38.000 A volcano spewed into life when Indonesia's disaster blighted Sumatra Island, spreading new panic after the recent tsunami and earthquakes, and driving thousands from their homes.

00:11:51.000 Mount Talang, I'm pronouncing that correctly.

00:11:54.000 Forty kilometers, twenty-five miles east of Sumatra's coastal Padang City began pumping out volcanic ash shortly before dawn, prompting scientists to urge people to move away from the fallout zone.

00:12:11.000 Now more than 20,000 people have been evacuated from the volcano's slope.

00:12:15.000 Volcanologists Gabe Swatocki described the activity as serious, saying there was a risk of molten magma, there's already some of that coming out, and clouds of superheated gas that burn everything in their path.

00:12:30.000 This is what I worry about.

00:12:32.000 This is the activity that will be followed by larger eruption that is magmatic in its nature, he said.

00:12:41.000 Heat clouds could also descend and that is what is risky and that they can reach several kilometers, he said.

00:12:50.000 And the ash and gas plume reached 2,599 meters or 8,680 feet into the air above the now active volcano.

00:13:03.000 Scientists rush to destroy pandemic flu strain.

00:13:08.000 Now, I could talk about this for hours, but I don't have all day.

00:13:13.000 Bottom line, every major flu vaccination that they've ever created does not match the flu strain of the year.

00:13:22.000 So it's always been totally worthless.

00:13:27.000 On top of it, for some reason, they have taken out or reduced the amount of thimerosal, thanks to lawsuits and exposure, that is the mercury preservative, in most vaccines.

00:13:39.000 Except for a few.

00:13:40.000 And one of those few is the flu shot.

00:13:44.000 And for some reason, according to the Associated Press, it has been increased to 250 times safe levels.

00:13:50.000 It always had a lot of mercury in it.

00:13:53.000 And now a Nobel Prize winning epidemiologist has gone public with a major study, there's others as well, but this is one of the most recent, saying that if you had over three flu shots after being over the age of 65, your chances of developing Alzheimer's, which is just a cover name for all these brain toxicity diseases caused by heavy metals and other things, that you have a 1,000 times greater chance of developing Alzheimer's.

00:14:23.000 So, roll up your sleeves, take the shots.

00:14:27.000 I know a lot of you don't care.

00:14:29.000 When I warn you in the grocery store line about not drinking Diet Coke full of aspartame, you laugh at me.

00:14:35.000 When I see you lined up at the grocery store to get your quote free flu shot, I walk over and say, you know, that doesn't even cover the strain this year, and it has mercury in it, you laugh at me.

00:14:45.000 So, you've been warned.

00:14:48.000 And I'll keep warning because some people do listen, but I know some of you don't.

00:14:53.000 You think sodium fluoride is good for you.

00:14:55.000 You think mercury is good for you.

00:14:56.000 We even have a newscast, CBS News, saying mercury is a nutritious part of your daily breakfast.

00:15:04.000 I'm being sarcastic there.

00:15:05.000 Remember all the Kellogg's ads of nutritious part of your daily breakfast?

00:15:11.000 Well, the CBS News piece just says that it's actually good for your brain and is nutritional.

00:15:18.000 Perhaps I ought to air that again.

00:15:19.000 I haven't aired that in three or four months.

00:15:21.000 It's hard to believe when I just make the claim.

00:15:24.000 One has to hear it.

00:15:25.000 Part of a federal study of how mercury is good for you.

00:15:30.000 Again, I'm an extremist.

00:15:33.000 I'd say it's not good for you, but again, you know how I am.

00:15:37.000 I'm evil.

00:15:39.000 Very evil.

00:15:39.000 I don't totally trust the government.

00:15:41.000 I don't believe everything they tell me, but again, that's extremism at its worst.

00:15:46.000 That's kind of a mindset that will let Al-Qaeda get us. 0.92

00:15:49.000 But this latest thing, I mean, again, they went and dug up four years ago.

00:15:56.000 There were some dead whalers up near the North Pole on the coast there, a little town buried in permafrost.

00:16:05.000 And the Army had been searching for years to find live 1917, 1918 Spanish influenza strain that killed 50 mil.

00:16:18.000 And they'd been digging and digging because it was totally extinct on the planet.

00:16:20.000 They couldn't find it.

00:16:21.000 And they finally dug up, they dug up a lot of people, they finally dug up an obese whaler. 0.88

00:16:26.000 And he had stayed frozen kind of like a woolly mammoth.

00:16:31.000 And they were able to get the deadly 1918 influenza strain.

00:16:37.000 And I said at the time, I said, watch, in a few years they'll announce that it magically has popped back up and may kill us all if we don't take a new special injection that they've got for us.

00:16:47.000 And lo and behold, wow!

00:16:50.000 Surprise, surprise!

00:16:55.000 Now in the last year, there have been articles all over the mainstream news, why it showed back up.

00:17:00.000 They don't know why.

00:17:01.000 It might kill a billion people. 0.98

00:17:03.000 That's the major headlines.

00:17:05.000 Just type in new flu strain may kill a billion.

00:17:07.000 You'll get AP, Reuters, Moscow Times, and of course it's always the World Health Organization.

00:17:13.000 We don't know where it came from. 0.91

00:17:15.000 And even if they release it, and it kills millions of people, I don't think it will kill billions if we have better hygiene and better nutrition, but No one, I mean, we'll even point out, hey, they dug it up, they did it, and they'll just go, aw, shut up.

00:17:29.000 There'll probably be a Popular Mechanics article saying the Army never dug any fat man up in the snow.

00:17:36.000 But even if it's admitted.

00:17:39.000 But that's how they operate.

00:17:41.000 And this latest thing, scientists rush to destroy pandemic flu strain.

00:17:46.000 World Health Organization concerned samples may set off a global epidemic.

00:17:50.000 Thousands of scientists were scrambling Tuesday at the urging of global health authorities to destroy vials of pandemic flu strain sent to labs in 18 countries as part of routine testing.

00:18:02.000 This is from the 1950s though, another pandemic.

00:18:05.000 The rush urged by the World Health Organization was sparked by a slim but real risk that the samples could spark a global flu epidemic.

00:18:13.000 The vials of virus sent by a U.S.

00:18:15.000 company went to nearly 5,000 labs, mostly non-states.

00:18:19.000 Officials said the risk is relatively low, that a lab worker will get sick, that a large number of labs got it, and if someone got infected, the risk of severe illness is high and the virus is shown to be fully transmittable.

00:18:34.000 Who Influenza Chief Klaus Storr told the Associated Press.

00:18:39.000 Boy, Klaus is a eugenics lord of lords. 1.00

00:18:44.000 Dark lord of the Sith.

00:18:46.000 And this guy really is out of control and they're trying to make it the law that you have to take vaccines and out there pushing it.

00:18:55.000 It was not immediately clear why the 1957 pandemic strain Which killed between one and four million people was in the proficiency test skills routine sent to labs.

00:19:09.000 It was a decision that Storr described as unwise and unfortunate.

00:19:14.000 The particular bug was an epidemic virus for many years, Storr said, from the UN Health Agency's headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.

00:19:21.000 This risk is low, but things can go wrong as these samples are out there, and there are some still out there.

00:19:31.000 And, uh, folks, so it's another extinct flu virus that they are now distributing about.

00:19:38.000 It's like they ship superflu and everything else, uh, anthrax, all these other diseases, West Nile to Saddam in 93, our government did. 0.97

00:19:51.000 So they could later, if they ever released it, blame it on him.

00:19:55.000 The globalists are, they've got this figured out.

00:19:58.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:11.000 Folks, there is so much corruption, so much overtly Orwellian stuff going on, I don't know where to start.

00:24:19.000 We've got Paul Watson joining us just for a moment to talk about a very important article that was sent to us by an anonymous individual.

00:24:28.000 We're still trying to track it back.

00:24:30.000 I know that it was in the mainstream New York News.

00:24:33.000 Similar claims were made right after this happened, shortly after 9-11.

00:24:40.000 Then in the next hour, Professor Jane T. Christensen will be joining us about her college course, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny.

00:24:48.000 That's what the college course is called.

00:24:49.000 And there's just so much news here.

00:24:52.000 Wait until I tell you in the next segment about what I heard on the radio yesterday, twice.

00:24:57.000 But first, Paul Watson.

00:25:01.000 This was one of the headlines yesterday.

00:25:03.000 People can find it in yesterday's news under the General section.

00:25:07.000 Flight 587 eyewitnesses contradicts official explanation.

00:25:11.000 For those that forgot about this flight, tell us about the flight first.

00:25:15.000 Well yeah, this is the incident which occurred on November 12, 2001.

00:25:19.000 And it was Airbus A300 flight 587 which was taken off from JFK International Airport in New York City.

00:25:29.000 Um, as most people will remember, with it being so close after 9-11, it went down, um, in flames over Queens, New York City.

00:25:38.000 Um, the federal investigation of the incident concluded that it was an accident, that the tail fin of the airplane fell off due to turbulence.

00:25:49.000 And both engines blew off too, magically.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, and they blamed the crash on the pilot and the designers of the aircraft.

00:25:57.000 But, um, two days ago we received this video via email anonymously, which is the eyewitness account of, um, Tom Lynch, an ex-firefighter, who relates that he saw a small explosion towards the end of the plane, um, and then a larger explosion which engulfed the entire plane.

00:26:20.000 Well, that's what, um, I mean, that was in the New York newspapers the day of the event.

00:26:26.000 There were firefighters.

00:26:28.000 We have that in the archives.

00:26:29.000 There were firefighters.

00:26:30.000 There were police.

00:26:32.000 There were a lot of people who said they saw explosions in the engines and tail fin blow off.

00:26:38.000 And then they just ignored all those people.

00:26:41.000 It had just been in the maintenance dock for the last day, quote, being worked on.

00:26:47.000 It takes off, and in about 1,500 feet, blows up.

00:26:51.000 Well yeah, and the official explanation says that the tail fin just blew off and then the plane veered off course and crashed, when in fact we have this eyewitness and multiple others reporting explosions.

00:27:01.000 But not only that, there was an article back in August of last year where Canadian intelligence had an account from a supposed Al-Qaeda operative Who, um, told them that it was a terrorist attack, that it was brought down by use of a shoe bomb, and he named the person that did it.

00:27:22.000 So it goes back to this thing that, um, Robert Wright, former FBI agent, told us about, that there are actually real terrorist attacks taking place, but the government labels them as accidents.

00:27:34.000 Well, there's been over, there's been over a hundred of these events, And I get this from many different government sources, and people go, well then why, if the government wants to scare us, why aren't they announcing all of these?

00:27:44.000 Well, let me explain something, folks.

00:27:47.000 They've told most city police chiefs that we're really under a red alert.

00:27:51.000 That's why they're able to go, that's why we're violating everybody's rights, we can't panic the public, just do what we say, you're going under federal control like New Orleans and other cities have done. 0.99

00:28:01.000 And then, meanwhile, we track it back, it is yet again the globalists or their useful idiot minions that don't know they're working for CIA operatives, their useful idiot Arab terrorists who believe they're fighting for Allah, carrying out bombings of refineries, you name it, Paul. 0.98

00:28:17.000 There have been cars blowing up in parking lots, at shopping malls, and then they go, oh, it was just an accident, the car just blew up. 0.99

00:28:24.000 On the blackout 2003, another supposed accident.

00:28:28.000 But, I mean, yeah, that could be it.

00:28:30.000 It could be that it doesn't fit in with their script.

00:28:32.000 Because, obviously, to carry out stage terrorist attacks on a certain time scale, you need to carefully construct the script, because you can't have everything happen at once, because people would panic and there would be a possibility of anarchy.

00:28:46.000 So, I mean, it goes back to what Robert Wright said.

00:28:49.000 There are actual terrorist attacks happening, which the government covers up as accidents, because they're not part of the globalist script.

00:28:55.000 And that seems to be what this Flight 587 crash was.

00:29:01.000 And again, FBI agent Robert Wright, who was told not to stop Al Qaeda, threatened with arrest, and all he could say at the press club on C-SPAN was, all I can say is the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens. 0.93

00:29:13.000 So why is this new clip important, Paul?

00:29:16.000 Well, because it completely contradicts the official explanation that it was a tailspin snapped off the Cubs event.

00:29:22.000 And the federal investigation, I believe, only ended a couple of months ago, which completely covered up the entire scenario.

00:29:29.000 So, it's just a case of getting it back in the news and getting people to talk about it again.

00:29:34.000 Paul, I've got a guest coming up.

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00:29:36.000 I want to get... I want to play this clip.

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00:33:11.000 Eyewitness contradicts official explanation.

00:33:15.000 Flight 587 eyewitness contradicts official explanation.

00:33:22.000 And this is video of an ex-firefighter named as Tom Lynch, relates his eyewitness account of the final moments of American Airlines Airbus A300 Flight 587, which crashed and burned just two minutes after 24 seconds which crashed and burned just two minutes after 24 seconds after takeoff from JFK International Airport in New York City.

00:33:44.000 The incident occurred on November 12, 2001.

00:33:50.000 So just a little bit over a month after 9-11, a month and a half after 9-11.

00:33:54.000 The most recent federal investigation blamed the pilot of the aircraft and the designers for the accident.

00:34:00.000 The official explanation of the crash is that the turbulence caused the tail fin of the plane to snap off.

00:34:05.000 The eyewitness account, along with many other, completely contradicts that.

00:34:11.000 Paul, again, we have an archive on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com with all the New York News articles where the police and other people that are trained to fill out reports said they saw explosions on the plane, explosions on engines, engines flying off, hitting the tail fin.

00:34:30.000 That's what the witnesses saw, but the government just said, no, that's not what you saw.

00:34:35.000 It's like TWA Flight 800 Where you had 400 plus military witnesses, 800 total, state police, police, firemen, Vietnam veterans on Navy and Army drills that were going on, that were in helicopters, that saw two missile trails, track it, they said, look at those missiles!

00:34:55.000 And then watch the plane blow up. 0.57

00:34:58.000 But the government just said, no, shut up! 0.80

00:35:00.000 The center fuel tank blew up.

00:35:02.000 This is a mystery, isn't it?

00:35:05.000 Well, that's right, and there have been articles written on this with the scientific analysis where you can look at the kind of forces that the aircraft of this size are designed to withstand the turbulence.

00:35:17.000 And there's no way that simple turbulence could have done this.

00:35:20.000 Maybe, you know, turbulence would affect a smaller aircraft like a Piper or a Cessna, but this was a large, you know, large commercial aircraft, 747.

00:35:30.000 So it's inconceivable that this would happen due to turbulence.

00:35:34.000 And then we have the government trying to tell us that the plane simply snapped in half before it hit the ground.

00:35:40.000 They had teams on the ground within an hour to recover the debris.

00:35:45.000 That was immediately covered up.

00:35:47.000 And then the federal investigation blamed the pilot.

00:35:51.000 But how do you have 850 people that see missiles hit TWA Flight 800?

00:35:56.000 You have scores of witnesses that were in local New York papers saying they saw explosions and the feds just say no, you didn't see that.

00:36:06.000 Well, I mean, it's the point that a lot of people make about the Pentagon situation, which we're kind of balanced on.

00:36:12.000 We've looked at it from both sides.

00:36:14.000 Where the government uses all these witnesses to say that, yes, it was a large commercial airliner.

00:36:19.000 So people come back and say, well, what about the hundreds of credible witnesses that reported missile trails following a TWA flight?

00:36:27.000 They don't focus on those.

00:36:28.000 Nobody pays any attention to those.

00:36:30.000 So eyewitnesses are only used when they're convenient to the official version of events.

00:36:35.000 And it turns out with the Pentagon, the chief witness was, again, buddies with Gannon and with Telenews Agency.

00:36:42.000 He was really a White House employee!

00:36:45.000 Yeah, I mean, besides any of that, the official autopsy showed that there were no Arabs on Flight 77, whatever kind of aircraft it was.

00:36:55.000 There were no Arabs on that plane.

00:36:56.000 So again, it goes back to the whole hijacker's myth where at least seven are still alive.

00:37:01.000 So, whether you believe it was a bomb, a small aircraft, or a large aircraft, the fact is that there were no Arabs on it.

00:37:08.000 It's incredible.

00:37:09.000 We're going to play a couple minutes of this clip, Paul, of the flight 587 Eyewitness, who was a firefighter at the time, and then I'm going to get your comment on this new super flu virus from the 50s that had been totally extinct, except in a U.S.

00:37:25.000 laboratory, now mailed out to over 5,000 labs around the world, so when the globalists release it, they can blame it on somebody.

00:37:33.000 But let's go ahead and play this clip.

00:37:35.000 Here it is, folks.

00:37:36.000 Tom Lynch, retired firefighter.

00:37:39.000 Tom, you want to tell us a little bit about what was going on the morning of November the 12th when you witnessed the flight and crash of Flight 587?

00:37:48.000 And we happen to be standing at the spot where pretty much you were... I was walking north in this direction and it was a beautiful clear day and I had my head tilted up and the plane, as you can see, there's nothing else in the sky over here.

00:38:03.000 It's just completely open and You know, I see this plane come into my field of view.

00:38:09.000 I'm looking at it.

00:38:10.000 It's completely intact.

00:38:12.000 It seems to be flying in the southeast direction.

00:38:16.000 And all of a sudden, I see an orange-black explosion in the fuselage of the aircraft behind the wing.

00:38:24.000 Now, it's not that large.

00:38:26.000 It's probably about, you know, the plume that I see is probably about half the size of the size of an automobile compared to the fuselage of the plane.

00:38:35.000 The plane continues to fly for another, you know, one or two seconds, probably closer to two seconds, and then it erupts into a big fireball, I assume that was the fuel igniting, and at that point I see something come up off of it, and it did a curved nosedive into the rocket launcher.

00:38:51.000 Now, when you saw it up in the sky here, can you point to me about what altitude you think you saw the plane at?

00:38:56.000 I think it was probably about 2,000 feet.

00:38:59.000 Okay.

00:39:00.000 You know, there's a plane right now, Flying, probably landing.

00:39:07.000 This one was a lot closer to us.

00:39:09.000 That's much further off in the distance.

00:39:14.000 This one was much closer.

00:39:16.000 Uh, to us.

00:39:17.000 Now, from the estimate you did with your nautical map, you estimate about how far were you from the plane in terms of nautical miles?

00:39:24.000 Half a mile.

00:39:25.000 Half a mile and the altitude was probably less than a half a mile, which I thought was a little lower than normal, but didn't really pay that any attention to it.

00:39:34.000 A lot of times the planes, when they finish a turn or something, aren't all that high.

00:39:39.000 Now, when you first noticed the flame, to the moment you believe it crashed, how many seconds do you think that transpired?

00:39:48.000 Three, four seconds from when I first saw it to the first explosion.

00:39:54.000 Now, I saw it probably a second or two before that, before the explosion.

00:39:59.000 So, two seconds.

00:40:01.000 It stayed in flight for two.

00:40:02.000 And after that second explosion, probably about six seconds.

00:40:07.000 Now, Tom, I just want to ask you one more time about the explosions that you saw on the plane.

00:40:12.000 Maybe if you could turn yourself around and just show me with your hand, what position do you think the plane was in?

00:40:17.000 The plane was, if those fingers are the wings, the plane was just about like that when I saw it.

00:40:26.000 Okay, so if you're standing, this is going to be your perspective then?

00:40:29.000 Right, it just finished making its turn, and it just about leveled out.

00:40:33.000 It was just about leveling out, I believe.

00:40:37.000 It came around this way, and I assume it made it, they said it took off this way, so it had to fly that, like this, complete its turn, and it just got through leveling out when I saw it.

00:40:50.000 Okay.

00:40:51.000 And it was just leveling out, I was looking You know, almost at a 90 degree angle, if not 90, anywhere between 70 and 90 degree angle.

00:41:02.000 And, uh, you know, nothing seemed out of the ordinary when it was in my field of view.

00:41:08.000 It just seemed like an airplane flying, and all of a sudden I saw this orange, you know, black smoke, an orange explosion come from the fuselage, and some black smoke followed it.

00:41:21.000 And I said, oh, You know the word, and the plane continued.

00:41:27.000 Everything was on that airplane after that first explosion.

00:41:31.000 The tail assembly, the vertical stabilizer, everything was intact.

00:41:35.000 It flew for another two seconds, and then it had that major eruption in flames.

00:41:41.000 Pieces broke apart.

00:41:42.000 I saw a major part come.

00:41:44.000 I wasn't sure what it was, but I saw a major part.

00:41:46.000 And I said, oh crap, I saw a dive.

00:41:48.000 I lost more watch to dive into where it was going than where the parts, the part left.

00:41:54.000 Thank you, Tom.

00:41:54.000 Thank you very much.

00:41:56.000 All right, folks.

00:41:58.000 Now, that is exactly what other firefighters and police said they saw.

00:42:01.000 An explosion right behind the wing, and then other witnesses clearly said that the engine blew off, blew back, and then knocked off the tail.

00:42:09.000 Planes just don't do this, Paul.

00:42:11.000 Well, no, the key point is that he said everything was on the plane after the first explosion.

00:42:18.000 So it wasn't caused by something just dropping off and then the explosion.

00:42:23.000 The explosion occurred first, which goes against what the government thinks.

00:42:27.000 So that's why it contradicts the official version of events.

00:42:31.000 Yeah, the plane's flying along, there's an explosion, then a larger one blows off an engine, knocks the tail fin off, and then they tell us, oh no, the tail fin just snapped off.

00:42:40.000 And we all know how this is.

00:42:44.000 If you live near an airport, you look up and the plane flies over.

00:42:46.000 He just looks up at the plane.

00:42:47.000 Boom! 0.99

00:42:48.000 There's the explosion.

00:42:50.000 That's what the other witnesses saw.

00:42:51.000 But again, with the case of TWA Flight 800, there were something like 844 witnesses, 400 plus, were in helicopters and on ships in a joint Navy-Army exercise going on.

00:43:05.000 And there were dozens and dozens and dozens of helicopters in the air.

00:43:09.000 And some of the witnesses in sworn testimony were Vietnam pilots.

00:43:13.000 They go, I've seen SAM missile trails.

00:43:15.000 I know what a missile looks like.

00:43:17.000 Two missiles, one after the other, were fired from the ocean, trailed up, hit the plane, caught on fire.

00:43:26.000 Second one hit, blew the nose off.

00:43:29.000 Then reporters snuck into the hangar where they had the parts.

00:43:34.000 snuck out with some sheet material, tested it, it had a high-grade missile explosive in it, super-grade plastic, and they got arrested, Paul!

00:43:46.000 Well, yeah, because it wasn't politically expedient at that time for Clinton to have a terrorist attack take place.

00:43:51.000 The thing with this one is that we just received it in an anonymous email and then put it on the website.

00:43:56.000 I sent it out, but it didn't seem to get linked anywhere, so we need people to send out to all the other big alternative news websites and make people start talking about it, get some traction behind it.

00:44:07.000 It will be in the news and focus section later on today on the front page, so people can take the link from there and email it out to people.

00:44:16.000 Well, you've got some of the news articles about it, but why don't you also, I know you're busy, Paul, but find some of the news articles.

00:44:22.000 some of the articles i was a new york daily news did a buffalo paper too i remember reading them at the time where they were they had police and others quoted as saying the same thing that that firefighter just said so we need to you know get those posted too in there yeah i mean there are entire websites which are just devoted to this one incident so why don't we just linky link to them yeah

00:44:44.000 we can build a little section and send out absolutely but it won't be seen and it won't be understood, folks, unless you're aware of it.

00:44:53.000 Perhaps we should link to our TWA Flight 800 section, too.

00:44:57.000 I mean, with TWA Flight 800, 800-plus witnesses all see the same thing.

00:45:03.000 Citizens, state police, army colonels.

00:45:08.000 I mean, what does it take, Paul?

00:45:11.000 Well, again, it's...

00:45:12.000 What kind of eyewitness testimony gets in the media, whether they choose to use it or not, and in some cases they do, and in some cases they don't.

00:45:21.000 And then we're meant to believe, you know, ridiculous things like passports fluttering to the ground on 9-11, and that's supposedly credible.

00:45:28.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 Just 60 seconds more and then I'm going to jump to news, Paul.

00:45:33.000 Tell us...

00:45:35.000 Tell us your opinion on this latest, oh 1950 superflu, it was extinct in the public but the government's mailed it out to 5,000 plus labs.

00:45:46.000 Whoops, another mistake.

00:45:48.000 Yeah well, we featured on the website last week after Bush had signed these quarantine orders for anyone showing symptoms of bird flu, did a little flashback to a New Scientist magazine report.

00:46:02.000 Where it talked about US labs playing around with the deadly 1918 Spanish flu virus at quote less than the maximum level of containment.

00:46:13.000 It was at biosafety 4 I believe and then they brought it down to biosafety 3 and there were top scientists you know exclaiming their worry that they were just playing around with this on a casual basis.

00:46:29.000 And again, why did our government search for, I think it was three years, they finally found it four years ago, dug it up, and then we're supposed to forget that article from a few years ago, Paul, now when they announce, oh, it's going to show up again, we don't know why!

00:46:42.000 Well, I remember back in high school, all the science textbooks always talked about the fact that it was inevitable that a deadly flu pandemic would once again sweep the world, so it seems they've been preparing for this for a long time.

00:46:55.000 Yeah, this is going to make 9-11 look like child's play.

00:46:59.000 Well, exactly.

00:47:00.000 This is a bio-attack and we've had articles that the U.S.

00:47:03.000 would close schools, restrict travel in case of worldwide flu outbreak.

00:47:07.000 And then after they, quote, save us from the flu outbreak, oh, it'll be the law, you've got to take vaccines, hey, don't argue with us, we used to have freedom but not anymore, it just has to happen, Paul.

00:47:19.000 It's about medical martial law, it's about... But the borders are going to stay wide open!

00:47:24.000 Well, exactly.

00:47:25.000 And then right back to 2001 with the Model States Emergency Health Powers Act.

00:47:30.000 That allowed for total government takeover of industry, vehicles, buildings, locations, distribution processes under the threat of this bio-attack which included the flu pandemic.

00:47:41.000 And the states wouldn't pass it so they put it on page 76 of Homeland Security.

00:47:45.000 Paul, well said as usual.

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00:47:52.000 Well, the main headline today is obviously this flu pandemic.

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00:56:13.000 I think when my guest is on with us I'll throw news articles out at the professor and see what she thinks about them as a way to cover the stories but I wanted to add a program note here.

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00:58:31.000 But I could talk about it, I guess, every hour on the hour.

00:58:33.000 People still wouldn't get it or understand it.

00:58:35.000 I mean, most of you do, but some people just don't.

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01:00:11.000 We've got an amazing guest coming up here in about five minutes, Professor Jane T. Christensen, and she is The professor that came up with a college course titled, I'm honored I would add, 9-11 The Road to Tyranny.

01:00:28.000 And obviously my documentary film is part of the curriculum, but not just my film.

01:00:32.000 So many other important works.

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01:00:42.000 And again, she's also gone through a lot of pressure and attacks since she started doing this.

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01:00:51.000 I know I haven't taken any calls yet because I had a guest on last hour and a lot of news, but your calls are coming up in this hour with Professor Jane T. Christensen as well.

01:01:02.000 I want to get more into all this increased volcanic activity, thousands fleece a modern volcano.

01:01:07.000 I want to get more into how the government mailed out, the government controlled lab, mailed out over 5,000 laboratories, a super flu.

01:01:16.000 So they can then again have plausible deniability when they release it.

01:01:19.000 This is part of the plan. 1.00

01:01:21.000 I'm killing all these microbiologists. 0.96

01:01:24.000 Also, there is just a whole host of news about our trade deficit exploding to $61 billion per month. 0.92

01:01:31.000 All time record levels.

01:01:32.000 And Bush says trade deficits are good.

01:01:34.000 He says our number one export is jobs.

01:01:36.000 He actually said that last year.

01:01:38.000 And the Democrats of course agree and just absolutely Love it, the Secret Service is out harassing people about their displays, their artwork that they've done.

01:01:48.000 A knife-wielding man holds German children in cellar.

01:01:53.000 We pray for those children.

01:01:54.000 But the globalists would say, ban knives.

01:01:57.000 It's not the man's fault.

01:01:59.000 A man holding a knife sees four children from a bus and was holding them in a cellar in a western German town.

01:02:05.000 The police said it was a standoff.

01:02:08.000 Interesting article here.

01:02:10.000 Army reservists charged in border detention down in Arizona.

01:02:13.000 Associated Press reports.

01:02:16.000 He was not part of the Minuteman Project, which has done a perfect job so far.

01:02:22.000 They just call the Border Patrol when they see illegals and report on it and force the media to cover it.

01:02:27.000 This guy wasn't part of it.

01:02:29.000 And I believe he called the show.

01:02:31.000 Somebody named Patrick called a few weeks ago who was just driving around looking for the Minuteman on the border.

01:02:38.000 Said he was a young military man.

01:02:42.000 And here it is, I don't know if this was him, but Sergeant Patrick Hobb, 24, was apparently acting alone and not involved with the Minuteman Project, which is organized volunteers for the month-long effort to watch for immigrants along the border.

01:02:58.000 He pulled up at a rest stop, pulled a gun, he thought he was in Iraq dealing with an Iraqi family, I guess, and had them all sit there while he called the Border Patrol. 0.94

01:03:08.000 And, you know, they're calling him stupid and saying his weapon should have been a mobile phone and all this. 0.92

01:03:14.000 Quite frankly, folks, under citizen arrest, on the law books, if people are committing these felonies, as these illegals were, he really shouldn't have gotten in trouble. 0.98

01:03:25.000 Other than the fact that the police do have a point, though.

01:03:29.000 You can always argue these things.

01:03:31.000 He didn't know they were illegal aliens.

01:03:34.000 And a cop just can't randomly run up and pull a gun on you.

01:03:36.000 That's what the police are saying, so why should he?

01:03:38.000 So, really, he is in the wrong, overall, but he could have used better judgment.

01:03:43.000 You know, citizen's arrest is when you catch somebody stealing color TVs out of the back of a business with masks on.

01:03:49.000 That's when you can carry a citizen's arrest out.

01:03:51.000 We'll be right back.

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01:06:54.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:07:01.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:06.000 Coming up in the next segment, Professor Jane T. Christensen with the college course, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny.

01:07:14.000 And the course has a lot more than just my film in it.

01:07:18.000 And it's caused her to get a little bit of heat placed on her, so that's coming up here in about 10-15 minutes.

01:07:27.000 About to go straight back to your calls, but I wanted to talk just a little bit more about this first.

01:07:32.000 Army reservists charged in border detention.

01:07:37.000 An army reservist was arrested on charges of holding seven Mexicans at gunpoint at a rest stop in southern Arizona where civilian efforts to watch for illegal immigrants have raised fears of vigilante violence.

01:07:54.000 It isn't until way into the article that they admit, oh, by the way, he wasn't with The Minutemen Project with a thousand plus citizens down there on the border simply calling the police, the Border Patrol, when they see illegal aliens crossing right across the fence itself.

01:08:10.000 There they have probable cause and total evidence.

01:08:14.000 Sergeant Patrick Hobb, 24, was apparently acting alone and not involved with the Minutemen Project.

01:08:21.000 Which was organized volunteers for a month-long effort to watch for immigrants and drug smugglers along the border.

01:08:28.000 Officials said Hobb used his vehicle to stop the seven men from driving away from interstate rest stop Sunday.

01:08:36.000 Then ordered them to lie on the ground or be shot.

01:08:39.000 And in one AP article they have it up towards the top that he wasn't involved with the Minutemen and in another it's down at the bottom.

01:08:46.000 He was being held on seven counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

01:08:49.000 That's Tom, he didn't touch him.

01:08:52.000 Even law enforcement has to have probable cause before taking people out of their cars and telling them to lie on the ground.

01:08:57.000 Well, that's an honest statement, though normally police don't do that.

01:09:01.000 He threatened to kill them.

01:09:02.000 Sheriff Joe Arpaio said, Oh, I don't trust Joe Arpaio as far as I can throw him.

01:09:09.000 I've had that guy on a couple times.

01:09:11.000 He makes his prisoners wear pink underwear, put video cameras in their cells, makes fun of them, makes them work as slaves.

01:09:19.000 Joe Arpaio.

01:09:20.000 He turned the whole population into prisoners. 0.72

01:09:22.000 He threatened to kill them, said Joe Arpaio. 0.97

01:09:25.000 We've found these illegals will lie, though, folks. 0.94

01:09:27.000 We've caught them in the past doing this.

01:09:29.000 He did not have the right to do what he did.

01:09:31.000 How did he know they were illegal aliens?

01:09:35.000 Hob had returned from active duty in Iraq last month, where you get to run over cars and shoot families for no reason. 0.91

01:09:40.000 I mean, that's been on the news.

01:09:43.000 So many people flipping out now.

01:09:45.000 There are troops coming back.

01:09:47.000 Even law enforcement has to have probable cause, said Arpaio.

01:09:49.000 He threatened to kill them, said Arpaio.

01:09:51.000 Hobb had returned from active duty military duty in Iraq last October and had moved to Arizona four months ago.

01:09:57.000 He was being held at the Maricopa County Jail and declined request for an interview by the Arizona Republic.

01:10:03.000 Deputies said Hobb ordered another driver to hold a gun on the man while he called police.

01:10:07.000 The second driver left before deputies and the border patrol arrived and authorities are trying to locate him.

01:10:13.000 The undocumented immigrants were being held by the Border Patrol in Yuma.

01:10:17.000 They'll be out quickly, even if they're serial killers.

01:10:20.000 They've had cases of people that are rapists, murderers, released.

01:10:23.000 Houston Chronicle last year reported 400,000 of them ordered or released from South Texas jails alone.

01:10:29.000 Seriously, murderers, rapists, arsonists, I'm not kidding!

01:10:33.000 But don't you worry, this young guy from Iraq, they're going to throw the book at him. 1.00

01:10:38.000 Jim Gildrest, an organizer for the Minutemen Project, announced Hobbs It's H-A-A-B-S.

01:10:47.000 Alleged acts.

01:10:48.000 His weapons should have been his cell phone, he said.

01:10:51.000 The Border Patrol has said civilian projects interfere with its own efforts to secure the border and the government of Mexico has said it would monitor the projects out of concern for the Mexican citizens that might be abused.

01:11:04.000 Hey, Mexican troops, you keep killing federal officers and our troops have been ordered not to shoot back. 0.99

01:11:09.000 Pathetic. 1.00

01:11:11.000 All right, let's go ahead and go to calls here. 0.99

01:11:15.000 Let's talk to John in Texas.

01:11:16.000 John, go ahead.

01:11:17.000 Hi, Alex.

01:11:19.000 Hello.

01:11:19.000 Two things quickly.

01:11:21.000 I got a friend of mine that his son went in the Army about four months ago.

01:11:24.000 And I asked him the other day how his son was doing.

01:11:26.000 He said he's getting out on medical discharge.

01:11:28.000 And I said, well, gee, what was the matter with him?

01:11:30.000 He said, well, that's just a cover.

01:11:31.000 He said he's getting out because he can't stand the brutality in a barracks.

01:11:34.000 And I said, what do you mean brutality?

01:11:35.000 And he said, there's gangs of soldiers on the post where he's at.

01:11:38.000 They go around, beat, rob people.

01:11:40.000 He said if you look at them cross ways, they come over and beat you up. 1.00

01:11:43.000 He said they've had one guy in his barracks that was knifed to death. 0.86

01:11:46.000 They said they had two guys that were raped homosexually in a barracks.

01:11:50.000 And he told his dad all this stuff. 0.91

01:11:51.000 He started pulling strings to get them out of the army because he said they were just like animals down there.

01:11:56.000 Well, I can back this up.

01:11:59.000 Fort Hood, the biggest military reservation on the globe, it's like three or four times the size of Dallas, folks.

01:12:07.000 I mean, I mean the whole DFW area.

01:12:09.000 I mean, it's that big.

01:12:12.000 Many times bigger than that.

01:12:14.000 And, what happens is, the military now recruits almost exclusively out of the inner cities.

01:12:20.000 Well, that's what I asked Kim.

01:12:21.000 I asked, well, what's the problem?

01:12:23.000 He said, it's unfolding, they're recruiting guys with criminal records now.

01:12:26.000 Well, listen, I have, and again, if I had the webmasters, the time and energy.

01:12:32.000 I've given the orders, it hasn't happened because my people are so busy.

01:12:36.000 But I want a section on our military hiring criminals.

01:12:39.000 I see the articles every month.

01:12:41.000 I want so many of these sections.

01:12:42.000 Listen, they are, in fact I was going to mention it two minutes ago, but I thought, I don't have time, I'm not going to talk about it.

01:12:49.000 I have a Washington Times and an AP article from three years ago.

01:12:54.000 No, it was two and a half years ago.

01:12:57.000 Where it said, felons being hired for military.

01:13:01.000 But then it went on to say illegal alien felons.

01:13:04.000 Not only is 20% of the force in Iraq, and that's a newer article, illegal aliens from Mexico who were instantly made legal when they joined and made citizens when they get out, which is pretty reasonable, other than one problem.

01:13:22.000 Now we literally have a foreign army, 20 plus percent, that's just now, but the Washington Times reported, as well as the Associated Press, that they were aggravated felons.

01:13:34.000 And it said that the military is actually looking for aggravated felons, and it said arsonists, rapists, people that have stabbed.

01:13:44.000 And then, it's a very quiet program, they go into these medium security prisons, they're not letting them out of maximum security, and they get citizens who are felons, and they tell them, we'll let you out of prison right now, three years early, if you join the army.

01:14:01.000 And yes sir, and it's very quiet, it's been in the news, it's admitted, but the average folks, that's what Stalin did, is he put criminals in the military.

01:14:13.000 But tell us more about what your friend was saying.

01:14:16.000 Well he just said that he went to the chaplain, he called the chaplain up, and he talked to a few officers, and they finally arranged a medical discharge for him, but he said His son told him the CO turned a blind eye to it because they're so short of people now that they don't do anything, you know?

01:14:31.000 Well, look, and I'm not saying people in the inner city are bad, but it's the totally dumbed down, totally drugged out, totally gangbanger groups that they're able to recruit.

01:14:43.000 And literally, the Marine Corps, the Army have these big bright humvees with bling bling all over them, big speakers, they roll in.

01:14:50.000 This has been in the news.

01:14:52.000 I've got video of it playing gangster cop killer music And they tell him, oh yeah, you're going to be part of a crew.

01:14:58.000 I tell you what, Scott, get the clip from Frontline with him running over the family's car and machine gunning it and laughing.

01:15:07.000 Can you find that?

01:15:09.000 Get it for me right now.

01:15:11.000 And again, we've got other examples of this.

01:15:13.000 I mean, in front of reporters, these gang members, they'll go, watch this!

01:15:17.000 East side!

01:15:20.000 ZZQ! 1.00

01:15:22.000 And then they'll just shoot a woman at 2,000 yards, a couple hundred yards, blow her head off, and then laugh in front of news people. 1.00

01:15:33.000 Or, then a reporter goes, you just killed children. 1.00

01:15:36.000 They'll go, good, I want to kill more! 1.00

01:15:38.000 And so they got psychotic rednecks, they got mainly black and hispanic gangbanger groups, and it is just raping, slaughter, murder. 1.00

01:15:48.000 The white kids drive around on their tanks with human skulls and 666, Satan on it. 1.00

01:15:54.000 Just heavy metal, death, murder, slaughter, the power of the beast, Satan, Satan, Satan! 0.99

01:15:59.000 Thanks for the call.

01:16:01.000 Do you have that clip?

01:16:02.000 Very mean possible to keep me awake.

01:16:05.000 Okay, go ahead and roll it.

01:16:08.000 There was still some looting going on when we arrived.

01:16:11.000 And when we came across soldiers, they didn't seem sure of their role.

01:16:19.000 We filmed these G.I.s after they caught a group of Iraqis stealing wood. 0.96

01:16:30.000 We try to stop them from looting, they don't understand, so we take their car and we crush it.

01:16:36.000 United States Army tankers, who?

01:17:20.000 Later, the car's owner told us, I'm a taxi driver.

01:17:24.000 The car was my livelihood.

01:17:27.000 Now for those that haven't seen the video or the whole show, you first hear him go, that child shouldn't be here!

01:17:31.000 You know, the whole gang slang.

01:17:35.000 And, uh, it's a family, little kids sitting there, and they're on the side of the road getting some wood, and this is during the invasion.

01:17:41.000 Buildings are on fire, there's no water for weeks.

01:17:45.000 They're out foraging.

01:17:46.000 They got three sticks of wood in this little bitty junk car, no weapons.

01:17:51.000 And notice how they're doing it for your own good, and they're laughing.

01:17:54.000 They shoot the car, laugh, run over it, back, back over it, laugh at them, the family's sitting there crying.

01:18:02.000 Folks, it's much worse than that.

01:18:04.000 But I remember a long time ago, before 9-11, hearing about the gangs at Fort Hood.

01:18:10.000 And it is just, it is hell on earth.

01:18:13.000 And you've got your, it's in the racial groups. 0.99

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01:18:25.000 And they just love it.

01:18:27.000 It's... You want the New World Order, folks, you're gonna get it.

01:18:33.000 And these people are all coming back here to America to become police officers.

01:18:41.000 So don't litter or maybe they'll run over your car in the future here in America.

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01:22:51.000 I just want to briefly, before we go to our guest, comment on the last clip I played.

01:23:02.000 A crying family, a little bitty car, a few sticks of wood in the back, grabbed off the side of the road, about to be machine-gunned and bulldozed by judge, jury, and executioner, a group of laughing troops, Around their vehicle.

01:23:19.000 And the excuse is that child should be in school while the city is burning around them.

01:23:25.000 Now you're going to pay.

01:23:27.000 This will teach you.

01:23:29.000 And imagine, these are the emissaries from our country.

01:23:32.000 This is who foreigners are seeing. 0.99

01:23:35.000 Gang members.

01:23:36.000 Criminals. 0.68

01:23:37.000 They're actually hiring criminals.

01:23:40.000 Out of the prisons now.

01:23:43.000 This is mainstream news, folks.

01:23:45.000 It's like one of these public secrets.

01:23:48.000 Most people know about it, but it's not something that makes them nightly news.

01:23:51.000 You know, it's in a few newspapers here and there.

01:23:54.000 And so the caller talks about, you know, people getting out of the military because of how criminal it is.

01:24:01.000 This always happens!

01:24:04.000 This is what happened in... I mean, who do you think made up the Nazi Party?

01:24:08.000 Most of them were criminals and street thugs. 0.92

01:24:10.000 People out of the jails.

01:24:12.000 That's what the, uh, F.A.

01:24:14.000 were.

01:24:14.000 Or the Storm Troopers that brought Hitler to power.

01:24:16.000 Just thugs! 0.93

01:24:18.000 And, uh, heaven help us.

01:24:20.000 It's very, very scary and it's very, very sad.

01:24:24.000 And then these guys are coming back from the army and they're robbing banks and killing people.

01:24:27.000 They're running around wild.

01:24:29.000 It's a scourge!

01:24:30.000 And those are the ones that don't join the police force!

01:24:33.000 So, should we be afraid?

01:24:34.000 Yes, we should be very, very concerned.

01:24:37.000 Uh, joining us is Professor Jane T. Christensen.

01:24:40.000 And, uh, About a month and a half ago, I learned of a course she was offering, and I hear it's quite popular, called 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny.

01:24:49.000 And my film is amongst many other pieces of evidence that are in the documentary, mainstream news articles, government documents, other films.

01:24:58.000 And so to talk about 9-11 with us and the heat she's been under for this popular course, and to talk about a bunch of other issues and take your calls, we will go to your calls early in this hour, is Professor Jane T. Christensen.

01:25:11.000 And Professor, tell us about the college you're with, and they're at North Carolina Wesleyan College, and tell us about yourself.

01:25:20.000 Well, hi Alex.

01:25:22.000 I teach at North Carolina Wesleyan College.

01:25:24.000 I'm a political scientist.

01:25:26.000 I've been teaching here about 15 years now.

01:25:30.000 I'm also a farmer.

01:25:31.000 I run a horse breeding business.

01:25:32.000 Quarter Horse is on the side.

01:25:35.000 Anyway, this year I decided to offer a course on 9-11.

01:25:41.000 I had all this stuff inside of me.

01:25:43.000 I needed to share it with students.

01:25:46.000 And so I put together a course called 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, a title which I borrowed from you, Alex.

01:25:54.000 I didn't think you'd mind.

01:25:55.000 Oh, no, I love it!

01:25:56.000 Oh, I do, too.

01:25:57.000 And it's been this upper-level course in political science, and students have received this very enthusiastically.

01:26:06.000 And so much so that I've had emails asking if I would offer it online.

01:26:13.000 And I've also incorporated a lot of this material into my intro American politics classes as well.

01:26:18.000 And so it's something I intend to teach either, at least in part, all the rest of the time that I teach.

01:26:26.000 Because I think it's that important that this get out to the American people.

01:26:30.000 And I've heard there's been some discussion of trying to get the college itself to offer the course, basically to a wider audience.

01:26:37.000 Well, that would be through an online format, Alex.

01:26:40.000 If we could offer this online, we could get it to people all over the country, really all over the world.

01:26:45.000 Well, you've got a lot of material in your course.

01:26:47.000 Tell us about the course.

01:26:49.000 Well, I've got as many videos on 9-11 as I can get in there.

01:26:55.000 The course is actually in two parts.

01:26:57.000 The first part deals with 9-11, the event itself, and the course begins with the question of why study 9-11?

01:27:04.000 And 9-11, of course, has been the seminal political event, certainly in my lifetime.

01:27:11.000 It's changed everything, turned everything around when the government endorses or actually participates in terrorist acts against American citizens.

01:27:23.000 In such a blatant fashion as 9-11 was carried out, it certainly changed the way we view politics.

01:27:31.000 It's changed the way we live in this country with respect to the police state.

01:27:36.000 Well, it's the linchpin.

01:27:37.000 It's their excuse for everything.

01:27:38.000 I mean, when they raid an old lady and taser her, they go, it's 9-11.

01:27:42.000 Or when they arrest somebody for Sitting in a bank lobby, well it's because of 9-11 or when they do any of this, arrest somebody for using $2 bills in a store, well it's because of 9-11.

01:27:55.000 It's their excuse for everything.

01:27:57.000 Absolutely, Alex.

01:27:59.000 That's the way I've tried to present this.

01:28:02.000 First of all, people have to see that 9-11 itself was a fraud as an excuse to institute the police state here at home.

01:28:09.000 And so the second part of my course deals with the police state.

01:28:12.000 But the students are primarily interested in the first part because it's so hard for them to grasp the events on the day itself.

01:28:21.000 And they're very interested in new evidence, new theories of what happened on September the 11th.

01:28:27.000 Well, stay there, Professor.

01:28:28.000 I want to talk more about your course and go over some of the subsections.

01:28:32.000 Then I want to get into what's happened to you since you've done this and take folks' calls out there.

01:28:37.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:28:38.000 Stay with us, Professor.

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01:31:46.000 We're going to have the professor with us into the next hour.

01:31:54.000 We're going to have the professor with us into the next hour.

01:32:10.000 We're going to get your calls here in just a few minutes.

01:32:12.000 And I have a host of issues I want to talk to the professor about.

01:32:16.000 She's, again, a political scientist.

01:32:18.000 Been teaching there at the school that he's a member of for 15 years.

01:32:27.000 And she decided to do a course on 9-11.

01:32:31.000 And as you heard her say, is exposing how it's the linchpin for so much of what we see unfolding today.

01:32:39.000 And it's gotten a lot of attention around the country.

01:32:41.000 It's titled, 9-11 the Road to Tyranny.

01:32:45.000 Professor, continuing with how your course unfolds and why it's become so popular, then I want to get into some of the harassment you've been through.

01:32:57.000 Students have a lot of questions about 9-11.

01:33:00.000 And increasingly they're having questions about the police state.

01:33:05.000 They're very interested in discovering the truth behind 9-11.

01:33:10.000 And I tell them from the get-go that I do not know what happened on the 9-11, but I know what didn't happen.

01:33:16.000 And that's maybe all we can ever know.

01:33:17.000 Well, their official story is a total fraud.

01:33:21.000 We know they warned public officials not to fly.

01:33:23.000 We know the buildings were half-empty.

01:33:25.000 We know the CIA did insider trading.

01:33:27.000 We know Bin Laden's a CIA asset.

01:33:29.000 We know they did drills that morning so NORAD would stand down.

01:33:32.000 On and on and on.

01:33:34.000 That's right, Alex.

01:33:35.000 And I try to put this in the context of this was not a singular event.

01:33:41.000 They had previous runs, of course, at the World Trade Center back in the early 90s.

01:33:46.000 They did Oklahoma City also.

01:33:48.000 And, of course, we reviewed the Northwood document.

01:33:53.000 We talked about Tonkin Gulf.

01:33:55.000 And a lot of these acts of treason have been committed by the U.S.

01:33:58.000 government.

01:33:58.000 And that's all admitted official government terrorist attacks or plans to carry out attacks.

01:34:05.000 When the students start seeing things like Operation Gladio, which is the terror attacks they carried out in the 70s, blowing up school buses to blame it on enemies, our government killing children, I mean, what effect does this have with their paradigm?

01:34:19.000 Well, they've certainly had a paradigm shift.

01:34:22.000 Some of these students have been in some of my other classes, so they were not as hard to move over into the different paradigm.

01:34:29.000 But I have one student, of course, who's in the military, and he's a very upright American.

01:34:38.000 It's been real tough for him to make the paradigm shift.

01:34:42.000 Just as it is for a lot of people to understand that the paradigm of Democrat, Republican, or left-right is a false paradigm.

01:34:51.000 Because a lot of people want to put me in the context of being a leftist or extreme right-winger, and those paradigms no longer fit our political realities.

01:35:01.000 Oh, you're right, they don't.

01:35:03.000 And as a political scientist, do you see that... I mean, are you seeing what I'm seeing?

01:35:08.000 That more and more people are instinctively understanding that it's a fraud?

01:35:12.000 I think so, Alex.

01:35:15.000 At least with my incoming freshman class, I mean, these are young students.

01:35:20.000 The only source of information most of them will ever have has been the mainstream media, since they don't talk about politics or government in the schools anymore.

01:35:28.000 That, of course, is all part of the process of dumbing them down.

01:35:31.000 But they're skeptical, even in spite of the reports they've heard in the mainstream media.

01:35:36.000 The official story is such a far-out conspiracy theory that you don't have to look very far until you see the holes in it.

01:35:45.000 A guy in a cave had NORAD stand down and flew three planes with total precision into targets that top pilots say they couldn't execute. 0.89

01:35:55.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:35:56.000 It's totally ridiculous, Alex, and students can see that. 0.99

01:36:01.000 And I think more and more of the general public is beginning to see it too. 0.51

01:36:06.000 Now, I want to get more into the course and then take some calls, but I've seen the reports, I've heard you on other talk shows talk about it. 0.79

01:36:13.000 Neocon writers come out and say, this professor is a liar!

01:36:18.000 And they pick and choose stuff off your website that we'll give people the address for here in a second. 0.99

01:36:23.000 They'll say, she says, Israel says, they'll kill American citizens.

01:36:27.000 Well that was in Harots and United Press International. 0.80

01:36:31.000 Three years ago that Sharon said we're going to start assassinating people in America.

01:36:37.000 Bush has said that they'll assassinate whoever they want.

01:36:40.000 Gonzales has said that they're above the law and can torture people until they die and it's still not torture. 0.61

01:36:46.000 I mean, so you have their own documents but then people are calling you a liar.

01:36:51.000 Well, this is a case, Alex, where they want to kill the messenger for bringing them the truth.

01:36:56.000 You're absolutely right.

01:36:58.000 I've cited on my website Uh, links to mainstream documents that have a report of these events and yet I'm being blamed for the message itself and being called a traitor and an anti-Semite and basically being called a terrorist myself.

01:37:18.000 So are half the Jews in Israel anti-Semitic because they're against the Sharon government?

01:37:23.000 Well, according to these people they would be. 0.98

01:37:26.000 Well, this is what's so ridiculous. 0.92

01:37:27.000 I mean, you've obviously seen my film, Road to Tyranny, and I don't know if you've heard the radio show, but I mean, I am not against Israel, and still, leftists call me a fascist, right-wingers call me a communist, The white supremacist groups call me a Israel lover. 0.95

01:37:48.000 The Jewish groups, ADL, tries to imply I'm an anti-Semite.

01:37:53.000 Basically, it's demonize anybody who doesn't just toe the line and say government is God.

01:38:00.000 That's right, Alex.

01:38:02.000 And also, one must... I'm getting a lot of flack because I'm being called anti-American.

01:38:10.000 Because people are accusing me of being anti-Israel as well.

01:38:13.000 When I raise the issue of Zionist involvement in Iraq, or the neocon agenda basically being a pro-Zionist or pro-Israel agenda, I'm being attacked on both sides as being an anti-Semite.

01:38:28.000 Well, I mean, the Zionists are a secular group. 0.53

01:38:33.000 that funded Hitler. 0.52

01:38:35.000 That's now mainstream news. 0.99

01:38:37.000 They hate Orthodox Jews. 0.99

01:38:40.000 They've said it. 1.00

01:38:41.000 The Orthodox Jews can't stand them. 1.00

01:38:44.000 As I said, almost 50% of people in Israel don't like the Zionists.

01:38:48.000 So, I mean, really, they're like a political party, but they try to take this mantle of representing all Jews.

01:38:55.000 It's very true, Alex.

01:38:57.000 And amazingly, a lot of the Zionists support Schwarzenegger, who's a Nazi. 0.98

01:39:03.000 I've noticed that, yeah.

01:39:06.000 It's crazy, I know.

01:39:07.000 I mean, so if we said that we loved Hitler, and that we loved the Third Reich, and that we loved the Kurt Voltheim, and said, I don't care if he's a Nazi, I love him, maybe we would get awards from Jewish groups, Professor. 0.76

01:39:23.000 Maybe so, Alex.

01:39:24.000 I'm not ready to take that step, though.

01:39:28.000 Oh, neither am I. But I also heard that you were getting some death threats.

01:39:32.000 No, Alex, I haven't had any death threats.

01:39:35.000 I just heard that on other talk shows, so that's incorrect.

01:39:37.000 Have you been threatened?

01:39:39.000 Only with them trying to cause me to lose my job.

01:39:43.000 All those are the main threats I'm getting is that they will contact the president, a board of trustees, which they've already done, in order to try to get me fired.

01:39:51.000 So that's been so far the most serious threats.

01:39:55.000 And many of them have said that.

01:39:56.000 Okay, well that's how the grapevine works.

01:39:58.000 By the time I was listening to it on other talk shows, you know, you had, you know, basically Massad swinging from the rafters after you.

01:40:06.000 Well, there may be, Alex, but so far I haven't seen them.

01:40:10.000 Well, I mean, for those that Give people your website.

01:40:14.000 Oh, it's Jay Christensen.

01:40:16.000 It's J-C-H-R-I-S-T-E-N-S-E-N. 1.00

01:40:23.000 at ncwc, that stands for North Carolina Wesleyan College, ncwc.edu and that'll take you to the college's home page and then you can click on our faculty website and find me from that.

01:40:37.000 Or just type in Professor Jane T. Christensen, C-H-R-I-S-T-E-N-S-E-N and it'll pop up.

01:40:45.000 I know we have a link to the course on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com It should be up there today on the main page.

01:40:54.000 If it's not, we'll get it reposted.

01:40:56.000 But I spent about 30 minutes on your website a few weeks ago, and mainly you've got links in the sections that are about Israel.

01:41:04.000 Two, Harats and Jerusalem Post and others, where they admitted that Mossad got caught setting up fake Al-Qaeda groups that were really young Palestinians that they'd had in their prisons.

01:41:17.000 Then they give them weapons and they become agents and they are paid to go out and carry out bombings.

01:41:22.000 That's been in the major newspapers in Israel.

01:41:26.000 So is the Jerusalem Post and Harats, are they anti-Semitic?

01:41:32.000 Well, by the definition of some of these folks, they would be, I suppose.

01:41:37.000 Well, I mean, they were caught.

01:41:38.000 It's admitted.

01:41:39.000 I mean, so if you want to stop Shin Bet and Mossad from blowing up buses so they can blame it on the Palestinians, because you want to save Jews, you're bad?

01:41:51.000 Well, that's what they're saying, Alex.

01:41:54.000 Okay, well I'm starting to understand then.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, and that's why I've been trying to link to the mainstream articles, even in the Israeli press, to make my point, rather than choose more alternative sites that could be contested.

01:42:10.000 Well, you're also anti-Bush on your website.

01:42:13.000 Does that mean you're against Germans?

01:42:16.000 Because Bush is a German name.

01:42:20.000 No, they haven't accused me of that yet, Alex, but they certainly have accused me of being anti-Bush, which I don't mind admitting to.

01:42:26.000 I am very much anti-Bush.

01:42:29.000 But, I mean, some Christian preachers say that you will go to Hades if you don't follow him.

01:42:35.000 That he is almost a modern day disciple.

01:42:41.000 He's a holy one.

01:42:44.000 Well, yeah, Alex, he thinks he is too, I think.

01:42:47.000 I mean, doesn't he think he takes his marching orders straight from God?

01:42:52.000 Straight from Moloch, yeah.

01:42:53.000 Yeah, Moloch, Moloch, absolutely.

01:42:56.000 Well, and folks, I'm being serious here.

01:42:59.000 I mean, this is how upside down, crazy all of this is.

01:43:03.000 But, according to the reports though, your course is very popular?

01:43:07.000 Well, Alex, this is a small college, and so most of my classes are small anyway.

01:43:11.000 I have seven students in this class.

01:43:14.000 This is the first time a course has ever been offered.

01:43:16.000 For an upper level political science class here, it's not unusual to have fewer than ten students in a class.

01:43:24.000 So is this a doctorate level class?

01:43:26.000 No, this is an undergraduate course.

01:43:32.000 I know that your course is all over the internet.

01:43:34.000 I've seen it all over the place.

01:43:37.000 Has the mainstream media done any reports on it?

01:43:39.000 Not that I know of, Alex.

01:43:40.000 I haven't been contacted by any of them.

01:43:43.000 Well, I want to commend you for what you're doing.

01:43:45.000 I have no idea what these callers will be bringing up, but I'm sure it'll be interesting.

01:43:50.000 Let's go to some calls, and we'll get more into just your whole world view.

01:43:54.000 I find it interesting.

01:43:55.000 Let's talk to Ralph in Pennsylvania.

01:43:57.000 Ralph, thanks for holding her on the air.

01:43:59.000 Hey, how you doing, Alex?

01:44:00.000 Good, sir.

01:44:01.000 I think we've got all these volcanoes and earthquakes and so forth.

01:44:06.000 They're using this HAARP method with the Tesla theory.

01:44:10.000 I think that's what's going on with that.

01:44:12.000 Well, I don't know about that, but I do have the mainstream articles where they admit the Pentagon did study seismic earthquake weapons, even in the 40s.

01:44:20.000 And then we got, one of the things I heard this morning, and you went over it with these viruses going on.

01:44:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:29.000 They're going to be letting that go soon.

01:44:31.000 Yeah, the government mailing around 5,000 to 5,000 plus labs.

01:44:36.000 Yeah, and I've also heard they've been experimenting on people already in New York City, I heard last week, inside information.

01:44:43.000 Well, they've been doing experiments publicly since 1968, killing people.

01:44:46.000 Oh yeah, I know that.

01:44:47.000 Killing people on the New York subway.

01:44:49.000 They were giving people $500 for Well, that's actually been going on for a long time.

01:44:59.000 Every major city.

01:45:01.000 Thanks for the call.

01:45:02.000 I would just add this.

01:45:04.000 It wasn't the government that made Pompeii blow up.

01:45:07.000 It wasn't the government that made Krakatoa explode.

01:45:10.000 It wasn't the government, I believe, that made Mount St.

01:45:12.000 Helens erupt.

01:45:14.000 I mean, we naturally have volcanic activity.

01:45:17.000 Has the government developed these?

01:45:18.000 Has Secretary of Defense Cohen in 1997 talked about it being real?

01:45:21.000 Yes.

01:45:22.000 Could this be the government?

01:45:23.000 Yes.

01:45:24.000 Professor Christensen, any comments on what he was saying?

01:45:27.000 Well, I'm always very interested in anybody that follows the notion that they use Tesla weapons.

01:45:34.000 I've often wondered if that is what was applied to the World Trade Center to reduce it to dust.

01:45:39.000 Something had to reduce the massive concrete structure into powder.

01:45:45.000 The firemen said the largest piece they found was a telephone keypad.

01:45:49.000 And a normal collapse wouldn't produce anything like that.

01:45:52.000 No, it wouldn't.

01:45:53.000 And a normal collapse wouldn't cause fires to burn for four weeks at like 4,000, 3,000 degrees.

01:45:58.000 - 3,000 degrees.

01:46:00.000 - Yeah, yeah, that's right. - I mean, you got smoky black fires that had already gone out in the North Tower with people standing in the open windows for 20 minutes, not even burning them, but it causes suddenly the concrete to turn into dust and but it causes suddenly the concrete to turn into dust and the building to And then Larry Silverstein says that they imploded Building 7, but we're supposed to ignore that.

01:46:27.000 Well, a lot of people pretend that they don't know what pull it means.

01:46:31.000 When that's been explained over and over.

01:46:33.000 Pull it means bring that building down. 0.85

01:46:35.000 In the documentary they say we're going to pull it.

01:46:37.000 That means implode it.

01:46:39.000 They even say in the documentary pull it means blow it up.

01:46:42.000 Yeah, and Silverstein says that we decided to pull it, and then he says, and we watched the building collapse.

01:46:49.000 He says it all in the same statement.

01:46:51.000 We gave the order and watched it come down.

01:46:52.000 Yep.

01:46:54.000 But, and then later in the documentary they go, we're going to pull it, and that means demolish it, and then it shows them demolish the remains of one of the other buildings.

01:47:03.000 That's right, that's right Alex, and people need to, they need to especially look at Building 7 as a way to understand what happened to the first two buildings.

01:47:12.000 Even though the collapses were not totally similar because Building 7 didn't turn to dust on the way down.

01:47:19.000 And it was bottom down instead of top down.

01:47:22.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 Also, the other thing that the caller mentioned, For those that don't know, in 1968, on a winter morning, they released a biological weapon on the New York subway.

01:47:32.000 The Army did.

01:47:33.000 It killed people.

01:47:34.000 Details remain classified.

01:47:36.000 That's public.

01:47:37.000 That's your government.

01:47:38.000 So when I mention that, I mean, that's how cold-hearted some of these people are.

01:47:42.000 Now we have a government-controlled private lab mailing out 5,000-plus samples all over the world of an extinct super-flu virus that killed millions of people in the 50s.

01:47:54.000 And, I mean, it's clear that they're creating plausible deniability later, Professor.

01:48:00.000 Well, Alex, I hadn't heard about this mailing, but it doesn't surprise me.

01:48:04.000 I believe that they've got numerous ways they're trying to kill us off, including all this genetically modified foods and chemicals that they add to the water supply.

01:48:17.000 Aspartame.

01:48:18.000 And, of course, aspartame, yes, and fluoride.

01:48:22.000 But Professor, you're just looking at the medical data.

01:48:25.000 So what if all the top scientists say sodium fluoride is deadly?

01:48:28.000 The government says it's good.

01:48:31.000 That's right.

01:48:32.000 The government... In fact, near where I live, here in town, Rocky Mount, added another chemical to their water supply, arsenic, recently.

01:48:47.000 And the newspaper ran articles here telling us how much better the Rocky Mount water is now that they've started adding arsenic to it.

01:48:54.000 And people on dialysis, of course, they were advised never to drink the water here in Rocky Mount.

01:49:01.000 But those doctors are with Al-Qaeda.

01:49:03.000 The ones warning their dialysis patients.

01:49:05.000 They must be.

01:49:07.000 Rocky Mount in North Carolina.

01:49:10.000 That's the same place with Abbey Newman, isn't it?

01:49:13.000 Now I don't know Abbey Newman.

01:49:15.000 Well, I'm just saying in Road to Tyranny, it's in Rocky Mount with a state police stopper and search the vehicle and say she may be a terrorist for having a constitution. 0.98

01:49:25.000 Oh, was that in Rocky Mount?

01:49:26.000 Yeah.

01:49:27.000 Oh, I never knew that, Alex.

01:49:29.000 I'm just amazed.

01:49:30.000 What a small world.

01:49:32.000 Absolutely.

01:49:32.000 I wondered where that was.

01:49:34.000 I had no idea it was here.

01:49:36.000 Yeah.

01:49:37.000 Small world.

01:49:38.000 Very small.

01:49:39.000 Well, you know, that Constitution is with the Al-Qaeda. 0.99

01:49:42.000 We'll be back with the Professor.

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01:53:23.000 They brag about it, they laugh about it in their own white papers that are public because they know you're watching Desperate Housewives or football or soccer games.

01:53:33.000 They know you'll riot over a football game or in Europe over a soccer game, but you won't riot over, you know, your neighbors being drug away.

01:53:42.000 We're going to have the professor with us well into the next hour, and I want to continue taking your phone calls right now.

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01:55:16.000 Professor, I want to go back to calls until we run through the gamut of these calls, but after we take some calls this hour and then in the next hour, what are some of the topics you want to talk about?

01:55:25.000 Well, Alex, you just raised one of them, I guess.

01:55:31.000 People are asking, why are they setting up a police state?

01:55:33.000 Why are they establishing this control grid?

01:55:36.000 And I think people need to understand that this has to do with corporate domination.

01:55:43.000 We might talk about that, Alex.

01:55:48.000 I'll leave it up to you to sort of directly hear what the topics are.

01:55:51.000 Alright, well let's go ahead and jump the calls and we'll talk about this control grid.

01:55:51.000 Sure.

01:55:55.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jamie in Kentucky.

01:55:58.000 Jamie, go ahead.

01:55:59.000 Yeah, hello Alex.

01:56:00.000 Hello, sir.

01:56:01.000 I'd just like to info you on about the FDR.

01:56:06.000 They're going to have a special on the History Channel.

01:56:10.000 April 17th.

01:56:11.000 Okay, about Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

01:56:14.000 It's called Exposed.

01:56:17.000 And also, I would like to ask, when are you going to be on the George Norrie Show for the debate?

01:56:24.000 Uh, George Norrie has not called me yet for that debate about 9-11.

01:56:28.000 Has he been announcing it again?

01:56:29.000 Uh, well, he's been talking, yeah.

01:56:32.000 He doesn't know when, but yeah, he said it.

01:56:34.000 Well, then I don't know either, obviously.

01:56:37.000 But interesting questions, thank you for the call.

01:56:39.000 Let's talk to Mark in Nevada.

01:56:42.000 Mark, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:56:44.000 Hey Alex, you're so right about 9-11 being used as the linchpin for everything.

01:56:50.000 One thing I wanted to bring up, and I'm sure you probably already saw this Alex, like you seem to be able to see all the news that's going on, but for a while I thought I was watching mad TV, then I realized I was watching Fox.

01:57:04.000 I guess if you purchase baby formula, No, you're funding LCIDA now.

01:57:10.000 And they're actually saying that baby formula is a new hot terrorist commodity now.

01:57:18.000 And we need Homeland Security to protect the baby formula stock and this sort of thing.

01:57:24.000 Oh yeah, they're going to do this.

01:57:26.000 It's called infrastructure protection.

01:57:29.000 They're going to threaten every sector of the economy, the globalist are, then use that as their excuse to take it over.

01:57:34.000 Stay there, Mark.

01:57:35.000 Mark will let you comment more and get the professor's comments on that when we get back in 70 seconds.

01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

01:57:50.000 Mainstream Media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:05.000 We were just talking to Mark in Nevada, and he raised a point that I was aware of.

01:58:16.000 Thank you.

01:58:17.000 And you see Ridge, again, that time I saw him on C-SPAN three years ago, before he was even ...had gotten statutory power through Congress, they'd already set up Homeland Security.

01:58:26.000 It's now Michael Chertoff, whose cousin writes hit pieces about the 9-11 treatment, but he's your new Homeland Security head.

01:58:35.000 But Ridge said, yeah the terrorists are going to attack the food, they're going to attack the water, they're going to attack the bridges, they're going to attack the schools, everything will be under Homeland Security.

01:58:44.000 You'll all have national ID cards through your driver's license.

01:58:47.000 You'll all be rated as to what type of citizens you are.

01:58:51.000 And the government will decide this off all these private databases that are even full of corrupt material, even if they don't put fraudulent info in, which we know they do.

01:59:00.000 And yeah, I have seen the new report.

01:59:02.000 The terrorists are going to attack the baby food, the baby formula. 0.99

01:59:05.000 They're so evil, they want to kill your babies. 0.93

01:59:10.000 What real foreign group would want to attack your babies and ensure you'd come take over their countries? 1.00

01:59:17.000 Why would the Arabs want to fly planes into buildings and know that would bring the wrath down on them?

01:59:22.000 Who stands to gain?

01:59:23.000 Quibono, as the Roman judges would ask thousands of years ago.

01:59:27.000 Look at who stands to gain from all this.

01:59:28.000 And it's just endless fear-mongering.

01:59:30.000 Wristwatches.

01:59:32.000 Pins.

01:59:33.000 Road almanacs.

01:59:34.000 World almanacs. 1.00

01:59:35.000 You're all terrorists. 1.00

01:59:37.000 Rubik's cubes. 1.00

01:59:38.000 Complaining too much.

01:59:40.000 We're all terrorists.

01:59:42.000 And under infrastructure protection, see, we're all going to have to have special passes to have jobs anywhere.

01:59:49.000 Now, let's go back to Mark, but first let's get Professor Jane Christensen, who's teaching a course at her college called 9-11 Road to Tyranny, and getting good results with it.

01:59:59.000 Professor, what do you think about what he just raised?

02:00:02.000 Well, Alex, I think he's absolutely right.

02:00:05.000 The terrorists are going to do all those things.

02:00:07.000 They are going to tamper with the food, because they're already doing it.

02:00:10.000 They are going to poison the water, because they're already doing it.

02:00:13.000 And they're going to put all of our kids on drugs. 0.95

02:00:16.000 They've got plans to do that, because the real terrorists are the government itself.

02:00:21.000 And they're just laying out our plans when they say the terrorists are going to do it, but these are really the plans that the government, the elites in control, have for us.

02:00:30.000 So all we need to do is read terrorists as elite control grid, or globalists, and we know exactly what they have in mind for us.

02:00:39.000 It's simple.

02:00:40.000 They carry out attacks, then they go, oh, we better take this sector over, and they take it over and hand it over to their private cronies.

02:00:47.000 That's right.

02:00:48.000 Mark, comments?

02:00:50.000 I guess the only thing that I would offer to punctuate these remarks here is it's not... I think that like the baby formula story is an excellent example of how they'll use trues, but it's the way they present the trues that are part of the conditioning.

02:01:09.000 Because, you know, I'm watching this and the way they report this, I mean, it's like how could anybody even say this with a straight face?

02:01:15.000 I noticed this like when it comes to like Uh, incidents, so-called incidents at the airport.

02:01:20.000 You know, they'll sit there and these news anchors will say with a straight face, some guy forgot he had nail clippers with him and so he told the flight attendant, you know, he accidentally brought nail clippers with him and they had the FBI come interrogate him for a couple hours and they just say it with a straight face like this is normal.

02:01:39.000 And so it's like a conditioning process.

02:01:43.000 It's just normalizing.

02:01:43.000 No, it is.

02:01:45.000 But meanwhile, the border is wide open and we're releasing convicted felons every day.

02:01:49.000 But yeah, baby formula.

02:01:51.000 You buy baby formula, you're supporting the terrorists.

02:01:54.000 Well, it just never ends.

02:01:57.000 I appreciate your call.

02:01:58.000 We're going to break and come back and go to all these other great callers.

02:02:02.000 Carol and Walt and Suzette and Harry and many others.

02:02:08.000 And then I want to get into What our political scientist guessed, if left and right is a false paradigm, which it is, what terms she likes to use to try to explain this to her students. 0.90

02:02:22.000 So we'll be back after this quick break, and of course we'll also give you the website of Jane T. Christensen on the other side as well.

02:02:32.000 We'll be right back on the other side of this break.

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02:05:47.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:50.000 Welcome back.

02:06:06.000 8 minutes, 25 seconds into this third hour.

02:06:10.000 We're talking to Professor Jane T. Christensen.

02:06:13.000 She's a political scientist and she's teaching a higher level of political science courses at North Carolina Wesleyan College.

02:06:21.000 The name of the course is 9-11 on the Road to Turing.

02:06:26.000 For the Spring 2005 class, and it's popular.

02:06:30.000 They like it.

02:06:32.000 Our students are responding well to it.

02:06:34.000 Let's continue with your calls.

02:06:37.000 It's all interconnected.

02:06:38.000 Let's talk to Carol in Arkansas.

02:06:40.000 Carol, you're on the air.

02:06:41.000 Welcome.

02:06:42.000 Good afternoon, Alex and Professor Christensen, and may your tribe increase.

02:06:47.000 I hope a lot more will start having these sorts of Courses available at the college level or even high school level for that matter.

02:06:55.000 Well it is being discussed and there are similar things in courses around the country but not a course purely about it.

02:07:01.000 I think it's a great idea.

02:07:02.000 Yes, it is.

02:07:03.000 And you're right, it is about mass control of thinking and there's a very good book which Professor Christensen may have read by Bertram Russell written in 1953, The Impact of Science on Man, in which he says By diet, injection, and injunction, we will be able to control the thinking of the masses of people eventually.

02:07:30.000 For those that don't believe that, they tried to pass a law last year, and they're trying to pass it again, to forcibly inject every child in England With a vaccine, so they can't be addicted to cocaine, heroin and nicotine, that permanently creates plaques in the neuroreceptors, the electrochemical processes But then they also can't be happy off the natural endorphins that those drugs mimic.

02:07:57.000 They're actually openly talking about a chemical lobotomy of sorts, openly.

02:08:02.000 I mean, folks, you're crazy if you take any of this. 0.73

02:08:04.000 Go ahead. 0.92

02:08:04.000 Right. 0.92

02:08:05.000 Well, and they're doing it with the mercury in the vaccines, which we know is a neurotoxin.

02:08:11.000 Also, the fluoride in the water, or in a lot of other things, your toothpaste, and a lot of the... It's in the whole food chain now.

02:08:19.000 It's in everything.

02:08:20.000 All you can do is reduce your intake.

02:08:23.000 Right, and we just... I have my big Berkey.

02:08:25.000 I got some new Millennium, Alex, so I don't drink fluoridated water.

02:08:29.000 But anyway, It's in all areas, the monosodium glutenate and aspartame that's deliberately put into food that's been shown to be neurotoxic and cause brain damage.

02:08:42.000 But I think on the subject of your course at your college, if you go back and you talked about Oklahoma City a little bit, they're going to have a meeting there, the 19th and 20th, Senator Charles Keyes, Um, if putting it on, you're going to have a whole lot of people there.

02:09:04.000 I know, I was invited to speak, but I can't go to that, but please tell them a thank you for offering.

02:09:11.000 Alright, um, anyway, um, there is a tie in there, because... Do you have any questions for the guy?

02:09:18.000 Yeah, it goes on back to Waco, and mind manipulation, because what they were doing on the national TV at the time was trying to character assassinate the people that were in Waco.

02:09:28.000 And what they were doing with the masses of people in the United States was trying to convince them that these people really didn't have any constitutional rights because they were so weird.

02:09:37.000 It was a public execution.

02:09:39.000 Great points.

02:09:40.000 Professor, any comments?

02:09:42.000 Well, I'm always glad to tie in Oklahoma City with 9-11.

02:09:47.000 There are so many similarities.

02:09:49.000 And you mentioned the events on the 19th and the 20th.

02:09:55.000 Pat Shannon, who made the film Murder in the Heartland, has offered to come and meet my 9-11 class.

02:10:03.000 So we're very excited about getting Pat Shannon here to talk about his take on what happened in Oklahoma City.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, Pat's a great guy.

02:10:12.000 Alex, also about the people that, well there was supposed to be some records in Oklahoma City too, from Waco.

02:10:19.000 That they were conveniently disposed of as a result.

02:10:23.000 They transferred them there right before they did that.

02:10:25.000 But Alex, you helped to build the memorial church down there at Waco and are not those people still being held in prison with really no charges against them?

02:10:37.000 Yeah, they are.

02:10:39.000 See, that needs to be brought out and we don't need to let that die because those people are languishing in prison I mean, they might as well be in Guantanamo.

02:10:48.000 No, I agree, Carol.

02:10:49.000 Thanks for the call.

02:10:49.000 Let me just comment on everything you've said quickly.

02:10:53.000 Take what Professor Christensen has done.

02:10:55.000 Already, people all over the country are wanting it online, they're wanting to offer it as a course.

02:11:00.000 I came up, and I'm nobody special, I said, we ought to have cities and counties and states throw out the Patriot Act at the local level.

02:11:07.000 People picked up on that idea.

02:11:09.000 Groups founded up in New York to do it.

02:11:11.000 Now over 400 cities and I don't know, is it 5 or 6 states now have done this.

02:11:17.000 Well, the same thing with her course.

02:11:19.000 People should pick up on this, expand on it.

02:11:21.000 You should call for it at your college.

02:11:24.000 This needs to be done, and it's by you out there being leaders, especially the academics that are listening, that are tired of this false left-right garbage that keeps people in the dark.

02:11:34.000 It's time for you to step up and even expand on what Professor Christensen has done.

02:11:40.000 As far as WACO goes, yes, I came up with the idea and spearheaded the effort to build a memorial church for the Davidians.

02:11:47.000 I'm not a Davidian, but what happened to them was wrong.

02:11:49.000 You don't save the children by killing the children.

02:11:52.000 And they were found Not guilty in 94 in San Antonio, but Judge Walter Smith said, I don't care, I'm putting you in jail for 45 years apiece.

02:12:01.000 They've been tortured in jail, you name it.

02:12:03.000 The Supreme Court said, release them.

02:12:05.000 You can't do this.

02:12:06.000 He said, I'm not going to do it.

02:12:07.000 They didn't enforce it.

02:12:08.000 And then in the civil trial when they sued the feds, Walter Smith sat on that at the federal courthouse in Waco and said, I'm not allowing a jury in this case.

02:12:18.000 Just creating new precedent.

02:12:20.000 Professor comments.

02:12:21.000 Well, Alex, I want to go back to what you said originally about offering this kind of material to a larger audience.

02:12:30.000 One doesn't have to get involved in a college course to try to study 9-11.

02:12:35.000 I encourage people to form their own study groups.

02:12:39.000 You don't have to go to college to learn the truth about what's going on in this country.

02:12:45.000 This is the format that I'm using, but people can start their own study groups and that's what I would like to see happen all across this country at the local level and find a convenient meeting place either in people's homes or even in churches or town halls or wherever.

02:13:01.000 But people need to set up their own study groups and they're welcome to use the materials Certainly from my website.

02:13:10.000 Your materials are readily available, Alex.

02:13:12.000 This stuff needs to be circulated to a broader audience.

02:13:16.000 Because if we don't expose who's behind the terror, they're going to keep carrying terror out to get us to go along with their system.

02:13:23.000 Walt in Kansas City.

02:13:24.000 Walt, welcome.

02:13:25.000 Well, God bless you both.

02:13:29.000 First of all, I want to give you an update.

02:13:31.000 My son came home from Iraq last month and it felt like the weight of the world entirely lifted off my shoulders.

02:13:38.000 Second of all... Go ahead, Alex.

02:13:40.000 I was going to say, did he have any reports for you about what's happening there?

02:13:45.000 No, I'll tell you.

02:13:47.000 My ex-wife read me the Riot Act because as soon as George got back in town, he drove down to Arkansas and bought him a 1928 Model A Ford.

02:13:59.000 And she was saying to me, well, we see where you rate talking to my youngest boy, Joshua.

02:14:07.000 I said, Suzanne, you don't understand.

02:14:10.000 He was over there in the killing field.

02:14:12.000 If this gets his mind off of all of that mess, I'm all for it.

02:14:20.000 If you haven't been there, you just can't understand the stuff that goes through your mind.

02:14:27.000 Anyway, Back to my main point.

02:14:31.000 I heard you talking earlier about 9-1-1.

02:14:33.000 And as you know, I'm a retired Marine Corps Major.

02:14:38.000 Mustanged my way all the way up.

02:14:42.000 And I want you to know all this stuff about 9-1-1.

02:14:46.000 Also, I went through the Top Gun program and later became an instructor.

02:14:51.000 Hitting those towers is what we call threading the needle.

02:14:56.000 And that is Very hard, extremely hard to do.

02:15:03.000 And again, where's the wreckage of the plane at the Pentagon?

02:15:09.000 Are you really going to use a cell phone on an airplane when you're traveling at 500 miles an hour?

02:15:17.000 Any of the top admirals or generals in order of shoot-downs, because that was one of my duties, Later on... Well, he removed... Dick Cheney had Rumsfeld, three months before, removed the shoot-down power from the brass.

02:15:32.000 Well, I understand that, but also you've got to understand, too, that up until, I think, 86 or 88, pilots could all carry guns on the plane and everybody thought it was great.

02:15:45.000 And then they passed a law that you couldn't do that, even.

02:15:49.000 Anyway, but the actual fact is, Now everybody knows, or a lot of people know, that any of the top admirals or generals could give that order, and I know what you just said, but I don't want that to muddy the water because most people don't know that, but there's only one man who can order a stand down, and he doesn't have a beard and live in a cave in Afghanistan.

02:16:15.000 I hear you Walt.

02:16:17.000 You know, all these plane crashes, because being a pilot, I have literally thousands of hours in several different types of aircraft.

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02:16:44.000 I'm going to tell you that right now.

02:16:46.000 I omitted the Flight 102, I think the Pan Am Lockerbie thing, because I really didn't, wasn't in, up on the conspiracy stuff that they were pulling.

02:16:57.000 Now I'm not talking about us having a conspiracy, I'm talking about the conspiracy stuff that they were pulling.

02:17:02.000 I hear you Walt, thank you.

02:17:03.000 So when I saw the missiles hit Flight 800, I knew for a fact, having been a pilot, you know, yeah, those are missiles.

02:17:14.000 Walt, I appreciate your call.

02:17:15.000 Let me get a quick comment from the professor.

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02:21:55.000 I'm gonna take five more calls, and I'm gonna keep our guests for the next segment.

02:22:01.000 And get a little bit into her political philosophy.

02:22:06.000 Talking to a professor who's come up with this great course on 9-11, titled 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny.

02:22:11.000 It's not just my film, it's so many great pieces of evidence that she's put in the course.

02:22:18.000 And it's waking her students up! 0.99

02:22:20.000 We need more professors like her. 1.00

02:22:22.000 I've really got to only give the callers a little bit of time now and let our guests comment because we're behind now.

02:22:27.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Suzette in Texas. 1.00

02:22:31.000 You're on the air.

02:22:31.000 Welcome.

02:22:32.000 Hi Alex.

02:22:33.000 How are you?

02:22:33.000 Good.

02:22:35.000 The main reason I wanted to call your show today was to thank Professor Christensen and acknowledge her bravery in this environment for what she's doing.

02:22:45.000 I read on your site the other day about the harassment in my My heart went out to her. 0.91

02:22:49.000 I actually was like, well, maybe I can get her phone number and call her and thank her.

02:22:52.000 But anyway, that's what I wanted to do.

02:22:54.000 Thank you very much.

02:22:57.000 I'm a warrior.

02:22:58.000 And so I could stand against the wind.

02:23:02.000 Well, you know, students, even though, you know, they go through our public schools and everything, they're one of our best assets.

02:23:09.000 And they really do get interested in stuff like that.

02:23:11.000 They eat that stuff up.

02:23:12.000 And if we can get them learning that, that is just Awesome.

02:23:16.000 Young people hate politics because we give them the false system that they instinctively know is a fraud, and it's boring. 0.99

02:23:23.000 Exactly.

02:23:24.000 The truth is very, very exciting, and people know the truth deep down as well.

02:23:29.000 Anything else, Suzette?

02:23:30.000 Yeah, I just wanted to say something, and this kind of relates to the beginning of the show, Alex.

02:23:34.000 I met you down at TalkFest in January, and my husband is an American airline pilot, ex-military air force, And he's finally starting to see the light.

02:23:46.000 You know, he was asking you questions, and he'll argue, and he loves George Norrie, so he listens to that a lot.

02:23:53.000 And the other day he finally admitted to me that he, his whole life, and everything that his whole being is about, would have to change for him to believe what really happened.

02:24:07.000 But he's really getting upset with Bush over this border thing, and we've been watching the Minutemen stuff really carefully.

02:24:13.000 What about Gonzales being pro-abortion and anti-gun?

02:24:16.000 You know, he hasn't paid much attention to Gonzales.

02:24:19.000 2.6 trillion dollar, 2.6 trillion dollar budget?

02:24:23.000 Bill Clinton's biggest was 1.8 trillion?

02:24:25.000 How is he a conservative?

02:24:25.000 Exactly.

02:24:27.000 Yeah, and he loved Bush, and now he's waking up, and all of a sudden he's, you know... So, I just wanted to touch on that, that, you know, Hopefully they're doing such stupid stuff in this nightmare that they're going to really wake up the hardcore. 0.99

02:24:42.000 And I'll tell you, if they start taking our guns away, they're really going to wake up people. 0.97

02:24:46.000 Because we talk about that all the time, and there's no way.

02:24:49.000 Well Suzette, thanks for the call.

02:24:51.000 I'm glad you're waking your husband up.

02:24:53.000 We'll go back to calls here in a second, but Professor, the globalists are so arrogant now.

02:24:58.000 They do such sloppy jobs, and I guess they've gotten that power sickness That mega-maniacal craziness that always happens where they think they're invincible because up in their ivory towers, their yes-men may be telling them everything's okay, but everybody I know is waking up.

02:25:15.000 Well, but they're counting on us to just be cabbages, Alex.

02:25:18.000 I tell my students all the time, don't be cabbages.

02:25:21.000 But the government is counting on us to not wake up and that's why we've got to.

02:25:26.000 That's why we've got to get the word out and bring people back to life.

02:25:31.000 Because they're really counting on us.

02:25:33.000 That's why they're in our faces all the time.

02:25:35.000 Because they know people are just sleeping.

02:25:36.000 Well, you know, we have a national vegetable.

02:25:39.000 I forget what it is.

02:25:40.000 Our national bird, obviously, is the bald eagle.

02:25:41.000 But maybe the national vegetable should be the American people.

02:25:45.000 Maybe that should be the symbol.

02:25:46.000 It's the symbol of an American.

02:25:48.000 Oh, yeah.

02:25:49.000 Yeah.

02:25:50.000 Or cabbage, Alex.

02:25:51.000 You know, I like the cabbage.

02:25:53.000 The cabbage.

02:25:54.000 Cabbage head, right?

02:25:55.000 You know, the cabbage analogy is ample.

02:25:59.000 That's apt.

02:26:00.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Harvey in Florida.

02:26:03.000 Go ahead, Harvey.

02:26:04.000 Yes, hello again, Alex.

02:26:06.000 Hello, Professor Christensen.

02:26:09.000 It seems like they've convinced the American people not to believe their own eyes, their own heart, or their own minds.

02:26:16.000 That's what this is about.

02:26:17.000 They've really created a class of zombies in this country.

02:26:21.000 Power is telling a big lie that people know is a lie, but they play along with it because they're afraid of the system collapsing.

02:26:29.000 Well, just left also in this 9-11 debate that you've been talking about so extensively, how come Bush wouldn't admit the lie detector test in front of the 9-11 Commission so the whole world could see he has nothing to hide?

02:26:43.000 Well, he wouldn't even do it under oath and they had it in secret!

02:26:47.000 But if he has nothing to hide, you know how they say, if you have nothing to hide, why would you worry about the FBI coming into your home and looking through your papers or anything?

02:26:54.000 So why wouldn't Bush Admit to a lie detector test in front of the American people if you have nothing to hide.

02:26:59.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:26:59.000 They're making everything they do totally dark, around with an iron curtain, and everything we do is supposed to be transparent.

02:27:06.000 Well, I guess then they're guilty.

02:27:08.000 You know, there is such a thing as truth theorem and a lie detector test.

02:27:11.000 So him and Cheney and Rumsfeld and the whole gang of our fearless leaders should be more than willing to go in front of the American people and tell us the truth.

02:27:20.000 Well, show us that they're lying.

02:27:21.000 What do you think about that, Alex?

02:27:22.000 Well, there's a better chance of, uh, Hades turning into a winter wonderland... ...before that happens, but let me get a... Too damn painless! 0.52

02:27:30.000 Too damn painless, Alex!

02:27:31.000 Let me get a comment from our guest when we get back. 0.87

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02:31:05.000 We're going to go back to the professor here and just take a few final calls very, very quickly from Tim, David, and Michael.

02:31:12.000 And I mean, I'm going to give each one of you about 60 seconds because I've got a bunch of the news I want to cover.

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02:31:42.000 And Debbie, good to have you on with us. 0.98

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02:31:56.000 Even reverse osmosis just gets out about around 90%.

02:32:00.000 But your filters do do that.

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02:32:05.000 Hi there, Alex.

02:32:06.000 Thanks for having me.

02:32:07.000 You bet, Debbie.

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02:32:33.000 And if they do call and leave a message on the machine, if they could leave their number twice so that I can be sure to hear it correctly, I will get back with people Alex.

02:32:43.000 And we do have Alex Jones specials, and I'd love to give those to your listeners.

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02:32:50.000 Yeah, tell folks about that.

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02:35:10.000 Just got to take control of our lives.

02:35:11.000 I mean, this government, why you drink their water, I have no idea.

02:35:15.000 I mean, I know so many of you know about the New World Order, but you still drink tap water. 0.99

02:35:20.000 And it is just full of so much garbage.

02:35:24.000 I mean, even if you think sodium fluoride is good for you, they admit that the source they get the sodium fluoride from is not pharmacological grade. 0.96

02:35:33.000 It is the raw, unpurified stuff that comes out of the aluminum and factories, purification factories, and out of the factories that produce fertilizer.

02:35:45.000 This has been in mainstream news.

02:35:46.000 It's just full of toxins.

02:35:48.000 I can't believe they just take their toxic waste and dump it in the water.

02:35:51.000 It's like DU.

02:35:52.000 They take the byproduct of these nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons production plants and they put it into armor and tanks and put it into the munitions and then use it and have our troops breathe it when the Army's own handbook says it's deadly poison.

02:36:05.000 Just from the heavy metal effects alone.

02:36:08.000 It's crazy.

02:36:09.000 Okay, going back to the professor.

02:36:11.000 Professor, let's just take three quick final calls here.

02:36:15.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tim in Ohio.

02:36:18.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:36:19.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:36:19.000 Hello.

02:36:20.000 Hello, Professor.

02:36:21.000 Hi there.

02:36:22.000 I wanted to ask you a question about the Kuam Corporation and if that's part of your study group.

02:36:29.000 Marvin Bush apparently was on the board of directors or head of this corporation and security happened to be their main business.

02:36:37.000 And he was over security at the World Trade Centers and was in New York that day.

02:36:41.000 Also, Washington Dollar Fan United Airlines.

02:36:44.000 And did you know that his contract with the Towers ended on September 11th?

02:36:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:48.000 It's a little bit of a joke to these people.

02:36:51.000 And one final thing, do you think that the national security apparatus in Oak Ridge, Tennessee has anything to do with this flu outbreak?

02:37:00.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

02:37:01.000 Let me get a comment from the professor.

02:37:03.000 Well, I'm not familiar at all with the corporation that he mentioned, but it's certainly an interesting angle I'd like to pursue.

02:37:11.000 The flu outbreak from Oak Ridge, I don't know whether they're in the business of spreading flu virus or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

02:37:18.000 Oh, we know the government's done it before.

02:37:20.000 That's admitted.

02:37:21.000 Let's go ahead.

02:37:22.000 And again, that's in the new film, by the way.

02:37:24.000 Just a few minutes of the film is Marvin Bush running security that morning.

02:37:28.000 And you find out what the rest of the family was doing that morning.

02:37:30.000 It was all quite interesting.

02:37:32.000 David in Indiana, you're on the air.

02:37:34.000 Go ahead.

02:37:35.000 Oh yeah, this is Dave from Illinois.

02:37:37.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:37:38.000 Oh yeah, last night on Frontline they had Karl Rove the architect on.

02:37:42.000 Oh! 0.60

02:37:43.000 And they showed how he used data mining to find out who was his Republicans.

02:37:49.000 Well, I thought it was kind of funny how, you know, they're spying on the Republicans, but of course they don't care, because, you know, they... The same company running the main data mining is run by a convicted cocaine dealer.

02:38:00.000 And another company is run by another computer crime specialist, and the other companies are open CIA fronts.

02:38:00.000 Yeah.

02:38:05.000 I mean, this is a sick joke, Professor.

02:38:08.000 Well, this is a crime syndicate, Alex.

02:38:09.000 It's run in the country.

02:38:11.000 They hide behind the mask of patriotism and religion and everything else, but basically what we're talking about is a crime syndicate that makes the mafia look like a kindergarten group.

02:38:22.000 Well, that front line show, it's online at the PBS.org site, so that's all I got for you, Alex.

02:38:27.000 Thanks a lot.

02:38:28.000 Thank you, excellent call, good points.

02:38:30.000 Last call I have time for, Michael?

02:38:32.000 I believe in New York.

02:38:33.000 Go ahead, Michael.

02:38:34.000 Yes, good afternoon again, Alex and Professor.

02:38:37.000 I'd just like to make some comments, you know, what you're saying for sure.

02:38:40.000 It's a crime syndicate, that's the bottom line.

02:38:42.000 How they operate, controlling our money.

02:38:45.000 And make sure, Professor, that as you're educating your students, make sure you keep them focused, that when they keep asking, well, why would they want to do that to us?

02:38:54.000 That they're foreigners controlling our money supply and then they infiltrate our government and that's how they got away with everything for the last hundred, hundred and thirty years. 1.00

02:39:04.000 For example, in the Constitution, it's treason and punishment of death for anybody tampering with our gold, silver coinage.

02:39:10.000 So all these guys in the Federal Reserve should be swinging from some tree limbs.

02:39:16.000 And then lastly, real quick, well first Alex, I think the national vegetables should be mushrooms, because they keep us in the dark, they feed us the BS, and most of the people seem to like it.

02:39:26.000 Now, lastly, Thomas Jefferson warned us that the Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitutional Republic.

02:39:37.000 And if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

02:39:53.000 God bless.

02:39:54.000 Which founding father was that?

02:39:55.000 That was Thomas Jefferson.

02:39:57.000 Yeah, thanks for the call.

02:39:58.000 Of course, he was an Al-Qaeda member, folks.

02:40:01.000 Professor, that's a good way to end it with the calls, isn't it?

02:40:04.000 Yeah, it sure is.

02:40:06.000 A quote from Jefferson is a good way to end anything.

02:40:10.000 You talk about trying to get people past the left-right false system.

02:40:14.000 Describe what you talk to your students about.

02:40:16.000 What have you found is an effective way to wake them up?

02:40:21.000 That's a tough question, Alex.

02:40:25.000 It takes a lot of different angles to wake students up.

02:40:29.000 One thing that wakes up one student may not wake up another.

02:40:33.000 One of my students that was the most resistant at all to any idea of governmental involvement in 9-11 was recently awakened by One of the films that may have been, I think actually it was one of your films Alex, where Bush is saying we will not tolerate conspiracy theories.

02:40:51.000 Concerning 9-11.

02:40:53.000 Yeah, and that was the one thing, certainly wasn't the thing that I would think would wake anybody up, but it certainly did.

02:41:02.000 Well you can see the guilt, I mean he looks like a fox that's been caught with chicken feathers sticking out of his mouth.

02:41:09.000 He does, Alex, and the most telling moment, I think, for Bush is when the film, on the morning of 9-11, when he's sitting in Booker Elementary School, and Andrew Card comes in and whispers in his ear that the second tower has been hit by a plane.

02:41:24.000 And we see a commander-in-chief that is totally out of control continue to sit there in that classroom, I believe it was for 26 additional minutes, And do absolutely nothing.

02:41:33.000 And then he said he first learned while sitting out there, but then there was the Times of London photos of him watching the first hour smoking in the green room.

02:41:40.000 Yeah, Alex, they probably were on closed-circuit TV in the presidential limousine, is my guess, when he saw the first plane hit.

02:41:49.000 Which didn't come out until months later, that the French brothers had gotten it on tape.

02:41:53.000 That's right.

02:41:55.000 But, of course, there was nothing to keep the government from getting it on tape and broadcasting it live to the President, which is what must have happened.

02:42:01.000 Well, it's just all too incredible.

02:42:04.000 The point is we catch them lying, new lies for old, it just goes on and on and on.

02:42:10.000 Do you think we're going to see more terrorist attacks that will be blamed on fictitious, foggy enemies?

02:42:15.000 Well, there was an article today, Al-Qaeda, Al-C-I-A-D-A, that is, is predicting that the next terrorist attack is coming and it's going to be with WMD, Weapons of Mass Destruction.

02:42:27.000 So I guess The Al-Qaeda is planning terrorist attacks on the U.S.

02:42:33.000 using weapons of mass destruction.

02:42:35.000 They're preparing us psychologically for this eventuality.

02:42:39.000 But if we just give up all our rights and leave the borders open, we'll be safe. 0.72

02:42:42.000 That's right.

02:42:44.000 And let them corporate loot. 0.52

02:42:45.000 You know, trillions is missing from the Pentagon.

02:42:47.000 People don't get why they want to do this.

02:42:49.000 It's so they can do whatever they want, folks.

02:42:52.000 And then if you question them, you must be with Al-Qaeda.

02:42:56.000 I just hope people don't want to just turn their whole country over to these globalists.

02:43:00.000 And I do think people are waking up.

02:43:02.000 They wake up, but then they don't take action.

02:43:05.000 That's the big problem.

02:43:08.000 Well, Alex, students ask me all the time, what can we do?

02:43:12.000 What can we do?

02:43:14.000 And a lot of people don't know how to take action.

02:43:16.000 And so what I tell students when they ask what they can do is basically to move their mouth.

02:43:20.000 You know, they first of all must be informed, and then secondly, they've got to tell other people.

02:43:25.000 So I tell students, you've got to talk.

02:43:27.000 You've got to move your mouth and talk to other people.

02:43:29.000 Even if it's your mother, you've got to keep telling people.

02:43:32.000 You do.

02:43:32.000 We've just got to keep exposing this crime before the criminals carry out more crime.

02:43:37.000 Professor, fire out the web contact for your website one more time.

02:43:42.000 It's J Christensen.

02:43:44.000 J-C-H-R-I-S-T-E-N-S-E-N. 1.00

02:43:48.000 At ncwc.edu.

02:43:50.000 That's North Carolina Wesleyan College.

02:43:53.000 Once you get to the college website, you can click on my homepage.

02:43:56.000 Or you can probably just type in Jane T. Christensen and it should come up.

02:44:02.000 Or just type in 9-11 The Road to Tyranny College Course and it'll pop up.

02:44:06.000 Okay.

02:44:07.000 Alright, well Professor, thank you so much for spending the last Hour and 40 minutes with us and I really appreciate the fine work you've done and God bless you.

02:44:16.000 Well thank you Alex, it's been an honor to be here.

02:44:18.000 No, it's been an honor to have you take care.

02:44:20.000 I know.

02:44:21.000 Well that's exciting and again that's just one more person out there fighting and telling the truth and getting involved.

02:44:27.000 Let me now just as fast as possible run through some more of the news.

02:44:35.000 That is so vitally important.

02:44:37.000 The government, through one of its controlled labs, has mailed out over 5,000 vials of a superflu that killed 4 million people in the 1950s, that was extinct, and is now saying, oh goodness, it may spread.

02:44:52.000 And clearly this is so they can later release it, if they so choose, to have plausible deniability, and then go bust some lab worker where it was mailed and say they did it.

02:45:02.000 That's the MO that I see involved with that report.

02:45:08.000 And we have over 100 microbiologists that have died in mysterious circumstances.

02:45:13.000 Mainstream news will say like 70-something, but it's way, way, way, way over that.

02:45:23.000 Talking about economic news, U.S.

02:45:25.000 monthly trade gap widened to $61 billion.

02:45:27.000 The U.S.

02:45:28.000 trade deficit widened.

02:45:30.000 To a record $61 billion in February, up $2.5 billion from January's upward raise, $5.85 billion deficit according to the Bureau of Economic Statistics.

02:45:40.000 You always get these a month late.

02:45:42.000 And it always gets record each month.

02:45:44.000 It never goes down.

02:45:46.000 The rise is partly because of the rebound in crude oil prices.

02:45:49.000 Crude oil has now dropped down to $50 a barrel, but the prices are still exploding.

02:45:55.000 And the IMF is now out spouting the peak oil line.

02:45:58.000 There's no oil Just give up all of your rights and we'll take good care of you. 0.67

02:46:06.000 Inter-Milan match ends in chaos.

02:46:08.000 Angry fans throw flares onto the field and injured one of the goalkeepers.

02:46:17.000 They threw dozens and dozens Just 30 flares onto the penalty area below them as well as bottles.

02:46:24.000 They had to cancel the game.

02:46:26.000 These people go to prison for this. 0.97

02:46:28.000 These hoodlums. 1.00

02:46:29.000 Hooligans as they're called. 0.99

02:46:31.000 And they do it all over Europe.

02:46:33.000 Here it's over football and baseball and the cops go out and shoot innocent young ladies even when people aren't rioting. 0.89

02:46:40.000 But in this case, They will get so excited and so angry over a soccer game, but they can't get upset about losing their freedom.

02:46:48.000 See, they use these gladiatorial diversions to misplace and misdirect our normal, natural tribal feelings to defend ourselves.

02:46:56.000 But that should be over defending against real threats.

02:46:59.000 That's where this aggression is built into us.

02:47:02.000 Not to discharge it into meaningless sports.

02:47:06.000 I'm not saying sports are bad, but when it becomes a religion, becomes pure warfare, It becomes a major, major problem. 0.89

02:47:13.000 Don't worry, the feds and other private scientific groups are saying that cloned milk and meat is nutritious and delicious.

02:47:22.000 It's almost the same.

02:47:23.000 University of Connecticut researchers say they found no problems with meat and milk from cloned animals.

02:47:28.000 So, a government-funded study at the university.

02:47:30.000 It says it's nutritious.

02:47:32.000 A study by UConn researchers say the meat and milk are essentially identical, essentially identical, that form animals that reproduce normally.

02:47:40.000 The study is published in today's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

02:47:49.000 So, look for those to be coming onto the market.

02:47:52.000 Rumsfeld has met with his new Iraqi puppet security chiefs, And so that tyranny is continuing. 0.60

02:48:01.000 Big article here out of the Associated Press, Citizen Spy High, school to pay student informants for tips on campus crime.

02:48:09.000 And they redefined it here like it's a good thing.

02:48:11.000 A high school looking for a few good snitches using revenue from its candy and soda sales.

02:48:16.000 Model High School plans to pay up to $100 for information about thefts and drug or gun possession on campus.

02:48:24.000 That's in road to tyranny.

02:48:25.000 They're doing that here in Austin five years ago.

02:48:27.000 They give them little tattletale cards, $250, bonuses if you turn in family members.

02:48:33.000 There's a high premium on turning in mommy and daddy.

02:48:36.000 We always said this was bad in America, but now just like national ID cards, government tells us it's good. 0.59

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02:51:40.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

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02:51:51.000 Bye.

02:51:52.000 I'm just going to tell the audience what's on my mind.

02:51:56.000 I had two great guests on today and I took a lot of your calls and I had to speed over the guests and speed over the callers because I tried to put so much in.

02:52:02.000 And I may have to kind of change formats.

02:52:05.000 I'm thinking some days I may not even take calls or maybe a ten minute period I'll some days I'll just say we're taking calls now.

02:52:13.000 Maybe ten minutes each hour, then we give each caller a minute, and some days we'll take peer calls and let you talk as long as you want.

02:52:20.000 Because I got a stack of news here I didn't get to.

02:52:22.000 It's giant!

02:52:26.000 I don't know.

02:52:27.000 What do you think's best?

02:52:28.000 Email me at tipsandinfowars.com and tell me what format you think's most informative.

02:52:33.000 I mean, look at this.

02:52:34.000 I could spend an hour on this.

02:52:35.000 Clinton finds his surrogate family, Boston Globe.

02:52:38.000 He's basically now a member of the Bush family.

02:52:40.000 They vacation together.

02:52:42.000 They love each other.

02:52:44.000 This isn't new.

02:52:45.000 George Bush protected him.

02:52:46.000 Blocked Dan Burton's committee.

02:52:48.000 They've been dealing cocaine together since being in Arkansas.

02:52:51.000 The 12 years Clinton was governor.

02:52:53.000 Hundreds of millions a week through that state alone.

02:52:55.000 I mean, that's admitted.

02:52:56.000 It was all staged!

02:52:59.000 George Bush is out Clinton-ing Clinton!

02:53:02.000 Conservatives can't even... I could talk for an hour about this!

02:53:07.000 soldiers ordered killed by the Pentagon in Iraq every time they would threaten to expose torture and murder.

02:53:07.000 304 U.S.

02:53:13.000 Fits with the intel I've got.

02:53:14.000 Don't have time to cover it.

02:53:16.000 Wisconsin residents seek legalized cat hunting.

02:53:19.000 AP, it's the environmentalists.

02:53:21.000 They called cats an invasive species. 0.99

02:53:23.000 Want them killed.

02:53:25.000 They want to make it something you hunt. 1.00

02:53:28.000 This is insane.

02:53:31.000 Everything's an invasive species.

02:53:33.000 The honeybee's an invasive species.

02:53:36.000 Everything... I'm so sick of this.

02:53:39.000 I could talk for an hour about this!

02:53:43.000 And I don't like cats compared to dogs.

02:53:46.000 I mean, it's one thing to trap wild cats and euthanize them if you have to, but no, start hunting them.

02:53:50.000 And it says if your cat is off a leash, they're going to kill it.

02:53:53.000 Even in the towns, you're going to... Folks, this is how insane it is.

02:53:57.000 I mean, I'm just sick of it.

02:54:00.000 And, um... I don't know where to start or end or anywhere.

02:54:05.000 Number one show in the country is Desperate Housewives.

02:54:08.000 Basically a pervert show where it shows these women going after young men. 0.78

02:54:12.000 That's what our country's turned into.

02:54:13.000 The big article in New York Daily News, this is the York Daily Record, excuse me, about this high-powered lawyer who's going after the government over national ID cards and all the comments he made.

02:54:27.000 Police raiding the wrong home.

02:54:29.000 I got three of these articles.

02:54:31.000 Tasering old ladies. 1.00

02:54:33.000 Torturing, kidnapping people's families in Iraq to make them turn themselves in. 0.99

02:54:39.000 It's just massive stacks of it.

02:54:42.000 Massive, gigantic, burgeoning articles here that I wanted to try to cover, but we're out of time.

02:54:52.000 I mean, I'm hurrying so much.

02:54:53.000 I only spent about 60 seconds last hour promoting my new video.

02:54:57.000 I gotta promote the new video because it's the best work out there to expose the New World Order and it's what funds this operation.

02:55:03.000 It's a great video on DVD, 3 hours, on VHS, 2 hours, 35 minutes, covers the police state, 9-11 like no other film out there.

02:55:10.000 It's my best work.

02:55:11.000 Again, I cannot stress that enough.

02:55:14.000 Then it gets into the occult elite and the order of death of the Bush-Nazi-Schwarzenegger connection.

02:55:20.000 It's such an important film.

02:55:23.000 We got discounts on it where you can get them as low as $14 a piece when you buy them in bulk.

02:55:28.000 Or just get one copy and make copies.

02:55:30.000 Or go to PrisonPlanet.tv and get a 15 cent a day membership monthly and yearly.

02:55:35.000 Watch it right now.

02:55:35.000 Download copies of it.

02:55:36.000 Burn it on CDs right there at Prison Planet.

02:55:39.000 dot TV, call toll free to get it, 1-888-253-3139, 888-253-3139, or write to me, Alex Jones at 3001, South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Alex Jones at 3001, South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704, please take action.

02:56:00.000 Look, there's so much corruption and evil, I just can't give any of it justice.

02:56:05.000 I can't show you the connections.

02:56:07.000 I can't go over all the facts.

02:56:08.000 I can't write enough articles about all this.

02:56:10.000 There's just not enough time in the day.

02:56:12.000 Just open looting of everything, total corruption, total evil, and a bunch of sappy people in the population believing whatever the daily propaganda is.

02:56:20.000 Stop being conned!

02:56:21.000 Stop being ripped off!

02:56:23.000 If you love your children out there, police, government, the globalists will release bioweapons and your children will die too!

02:56:30.000 We gotta stop these people!

02:56:32.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - April 13, 2005

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