Alex Jones Show - 20050418_Mon_Alex

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 We're not replacing him.

00:00:30.000 He can't replace Alex.

00:00:32.000 But this is Erskine sitting in for Alex, along with my friend, Jack Bluth.

00:00:36.000 First time I've done a show with you, Jack, who does the program heard on most of the GTN stations, following Alex Jones.

00:00:45.000 Welcome!

00:00:46.000 Jack Blood.

00:00:47.000 Erskine, it's great to be with you.

00:00:49.000 Of course, we've got to stop meeting like this.

00:00:50.000 Now, the funny thing is that it takes two of us to equal one Alex Jones.

00:00:54.000 And I think even then, we are going to be somewhat challenged.

00:00:57.000 We're going to come up a little bit short, but what the heck, we're going to give it our best try, and with the excellent audience and callers that Alex has, we're going to do terrific.

00:01:07.000 There's a lot going on today, isn't there, Jack?

00:01:10.000 Well, you know, I've got to be honest with you.

00:01:13.000 I'm sitting here, I was just listening to a neocon on the radio, Laura Ingrate, as I like to call her. 0.91

00:01:19.000 You ever get a chance to check her out, Erskine?

00:01:21.000 Oh, absolutely right.

00:01:23.000 I enjoy her more than anything.

00:01:25.000 You know, it's about like having a root canal.

00:01:27.000 Yes, and the discussion for about the last two hours was Natalie Main.

00:01:32.000 You know, of course, she's from the Dixie Chicks, and she made the comment that she was ashamed to be from Texas because George W. Bush was from Texas, and she wanted her audience in Europe to know that, of course, just because she's from Texas doesn't mean she supports George W. Bush.

00:01:46.000 Now, being in Texas, Erskine, I can sympathize with that a little bit.

00:01:50.000 She got in a lot of trouble for that. 0.93

00:01:52.000 Last night she was on Bill Maher on HBO, and the two-hour topic on this neocon show was the left and right treatment of the military.

00:02:01.000 How did the military feel about Bill Clinton as opposed to George W. Bush?

00:02:06.000 This was complete with, of course, a number of planted calls from our wonderful military overseas, who is protecting us from the Goldstein terrorists. 0.95

00:02:15.000 And we've read a lot of those letters that are on the internet that are coming from people overseas, which also have been planted letters, which is ridiculous!

00:02:24.000 I've never seen such a controlled news media, especially when you're talking about things like embedded reporters.

00:02:31.000 That term just grates on me, to be embedded reporters.

00:02:35.000 America is right now in a cocoon.

00:02:38.000 Thank goodness for GCN.

00:02:40.000 Thank goodness for the Internet.

00:02:42.000 That's about it.

00:02:43.000 It's in a cocoon when it comes to news.

00:02:46.000 We just are not getting the news in America today.

00:02:50.000 That's why GCN programming has skyrocketed over the last few years.

00:02:56.000 Well, Gerskin, if you want any news other than what the Cardinals are doing at the Vatican today, or at the Sistine Chapel, then I hope you're tuning into GCN, because if you're trying to get your news any other way, you're going to be hearing about the Pope, or the next Pope, for the next several days.

00:03:12.000 One of the critical stories that we talked about last week, and I found this to be absolutely critical, is what's happening economically.

00:03:21.000 We had the stock market down triple digits for the third consecutive day, off 420 points.

00:03:29.000 Friday it was off 191.24.

00:03:31.000 Friday it was off 191.24.

00:03:33.000 Today the Dow is off over 50 points.

00:03:36.000 And we've got a, GE had a record quarter.

00:03:39.000 Oil prices are dropping.

00:03:41.000 And we had a president saying we need to put our Social Security funds in stocks.

00:03:46.000 Excuse me, is there a problem with this?

00:03:50.000 Well, the problem for George W. right now is his approval rating is dropping down through the basement.

00:03:55.000 And a lot of these big agenda plans he has, these are, of course, you know, a second-term president.

00:04:00.000 He wants to make his legacy.

00:04:01.000 He's going to remake the economy.

00:04:03.000 He's going to remake things like Social Security, which like Wall Street, as you know, Erskine, is a Ponzi scheme.

00:04:10.000 But that gave a new meaning to TGIF on Friday.

00:04:13.000 I'll tell you, if we had one more day last week, investors would have really seen the balloon pop.

00:04:17.000 So, we'll have to look and see how that goes today.

00:04:20.000 But I just don't understand, Erskine, why people haven't woken up to the fact that Wall Street is controlled, and the little investor is the one that always gets it in the end.

00:04:28.000 No pun intended.

00:04:30.000 Well, they're waking up to it.

00:04:31.000 That's why they call them brokers.

00:04:33.000 And they're really waking up to it because a lot of people in the United States have lost their pensions.

00:04:40.000 Hey, Erskine, we got... And when you lose your pensions, you're in trouble.

00:04:43.000 And we're on to a break, I know.

00:04:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:47.000 This is Erskine and Jack Blood saying, hey, come on back.

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00:08:06.000 This is Erskine sitting

00:08:28.000 in with my buddy Jack Blood on the Alex Jones Radio Program.

00:08:39.000 And Jack was telling me during the break that there's a lot going on right now.

00:08:44.000 One of the key issues is what's going on in Rome where the Cardinals are meeting today.

00:08:49.000 We're going to be looking out very carefully.

00:08:51.000 White smoke?

00:08:52.000 Black smoke?

00:08:52.000 White?

00:08:53.000 Which one?

00:08:53.000 Black?

00:08:54.000 Are they electing a new Pope and one of the top contenders?

00:08:57.000 Tell us about one of the top contenders.

00:08:59.000 It's God's Rottweiler, you said.

00:09:02.000 Tell us about him, Jack.

00:09:04.000 Well, yeah, the Panzer Cardinal, the enforcer, God's Rottweiler, also known as Cardinal Ratzinger. 0.60

00:09:12.000 Before we go into that, I just want to let listeners know, second hour, of course, we have Paul Joseph Watson.

00:09:17.000 joining us, so I want people to stay tuned for that.

00:09:19.000 That will be a great roundtable.

00:09:21.000 Paul Joseph Watson, Jack Blood, and of course, yours truly, Erskine.

00:09:25.000 Yeah, Papal Hopeful is a former Hitler youth. 0.92

00:09:29.000 So the wartime past of a leading German contender to succeed John Paul II may return to haunt him as Cardinals begin voting in the Sistine Chapel, and it's happening right now.

00:09:39.000 To choose the leader for one billion Catholics, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, whose strong defense of Catholic orthodoxy has earned him a variety of names, including the Enforcer, the Panzer Cardinal, and God's Rottweiler, is expecting the poll around 40 votes in the first ballot as conservatives rally behind him.

00:09:58.000 Unknown to many members of the church, however, is Ratzinger's past includes a brief membership in the Hitler Youth Movement and wartime service with the Germany Anti-Aircraft Unit.

00:10:07.000 You know what this reminds me of a little bit, Erskine?

00:10:10.000 I can see the pattern developing here, with Pope John Paul II being a former employee With IG Farben selling the chemicals that were actually killing people during the Nazi regime.

00:10:22.000 Right, he was selling Xylon B there for a while, and if you really want to read a great book, it's out called In God's Name.

00:10:30.000 It tells what happened to John Paul I.

00:10:32.000 There's also a new video out called Illuminati, which shows the Soviet and actually the German Illuminati infiltrating into the Roman Catholic hierarchy.

00:10:43.000 And so it all ties up together.

00:10:46.000 But when you're looking at this and you're looking at the fact that Carl or John Paul II sold the Zylam Bee, and then you've got Ratzinger coming up, you've got our entire New World Order just coming right around together again, don't you? 0.97

00:11:01.000 Well, apparently you have to be a Nazi in order to be the Pope. 0.86

00:11:04.000 Now perhaps, I'm just going to take a shot here, perhaps Arnold Schwarzenegger might be a candidate for Pope someday.

00:11:11.000 I mean, he was a good Nazi as well. 0.84

00:11:14.000 Well, I don't really know whether that would qualify or not.

00:11:19.000 One of the things that I've been very concerned about is what's going on economically.

00:11:24.000 And we have a president who has done one very, very positive thing.

00:11:28.000 He has united the world.

00:11:30.000 Unfortunately, united against the United States.

00:11:34.000 Because of its economic situation and what's been happening with that, the leaders of China announced that Bushonomics Is a de facto military threat to the rest of the world, and we've got a new war footing that is starting up and new alliances forming all over the entire world. 0.93

00:11:55.000 We're in deep trouble, economically, inside the country, outside the country.

00:12:01.000 I would consider this the major threat to America is the economic threat.

00:12:06.000 Jack, have you heard anything about what's going on with the Minutemen down in Tucson?

00:12:10.000 Because I know that this is a major, actually, Tombstone, this is a major consideration.

00:12:16.000 All sorts of stories about the Arizona governor is trying to stop them.

00:12:21.000 We've got all sorts of stories about how embarrassing this is proving to the administration that is sending INS border guards over to Iraq because we're so short on troops.

00:12:34.000 Well, I think in this case, no news is good news.

00:12:35.000 We have 20 million illegals in the United States, which is certainly affecting us economically. 0.60

00:12:42.000 Any news stories about the Minutemen?

00:12:44.000 Well, I think in this case, no news is good news.

00:12:47.000 They've done a great job, I think, bringing attention and publicity to a dire matter, and that is the control of our border and illegal immigration and everything that goes along with that.

00:12:57.000 So, we really have to commend the Minutemen for doing that in the face of all opposition.

00:13:01.000 But, Erskine, I'm proud to say, I think it's a good thing that no bad news is coming out of Arizona right now.

00:13:07.000 In fact, we're going to try to do an update with somebody on the ground there in Arizona, one of the Minutemen, in my broadcast following Alex Jones today.

00:13:13.000 So, I'm hoping.

00:13:15.000 It looks like everything's going well, and they're extremely well organized.

00:13:18.000 They know how to play the media, and I think that that's the thing that's making this succeed.

00:13:24.000 And they're staying away from any violence, anything, even hints of violence.

00:13:28.000 They're staying completely away from it.

00:13:30.000 They're playing it absolutely as clean as possible.

00:13:33.000 Also, the other interesting story is how they found that the cameras that cost millions of dollars to set up, that they set up years ago so the border guards could check everything, cameras have never worked.

00:13:48.000 Another boondoggle.

00:13:49.000 Yeah, I mean, they like to let us think that the whole area there around the border, Erskine, is censored and wired and that border control can be there in a second.

00:13:57.000 What they hesitate to tell us, of course, is that most of these border patrol, and I don't want to, you know, say all border patrol agents are bad, but a lot of them are on the take, a lot of them are, of course, working for the powers that be, and this is the agenda as we know it.

00:14:10.000 I think we should thank the people at Ranch Rescue because Because of some of the mistakes they made, I believe the Minutemen learned from those mistakes and have been able to co-opt this into a much more positive experience.

00:14:23.000 I've had Jack Foote on, who was with Ranch Rescue, and these people were fighting for their lives, economically and literally fighting for their lives, and the number of... Talk about a war on terrorism, where one of the main issues that I'm concerned about is how America is losing the Constitution, how we're becoming a police state, as Alex shows so very well in his videos, and

00:14:48.000 The main issue is we have lost our Constitution in the name of saving us from the terrorist threat.

00:14:56.000 And people are waving the flag.

00:14:57.000 They're waving their rights. 0.80

00:14:59.000 And then you look over at the situation of all the illegals coming over.

00:15:03.000 Wide open border, drugs, diseases, everything else coming over, and we're fighting a war on terrorism?

00:15:10.000 Give me a break! 1.00

00:15:11.000 You know what gets worse than that?

00:15:13.000 I'm sure you've interviewed or heard about Mary Schneider, the former Homeland Security whistleblower and adjudications officer, who has testified that these sham marriages were put together literally right under the nose and with, I guess, the cooperation of our government, To bring in these Muslim terrorists before and after 9-11. 0.63

00:15:31.000 After 9-11, Erskine.

00:15:32.000 That's the thing.

00:15:33.000 And the thing that I want people to understand is that our intelligence or our police community here in the United States always seem to be incompetent at just the right time.

00:15:43.000 But yet, how have they stopped all of this terrorism for the last four years with these wide open borders and these sham marriages now coming in here that they're not stopping?

00:15:52.000 I mean, this just doesn't add up.

00:15:53.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:15:54.000 One plus one is usually two.

00:15:57.000 If I've done my math correctly.

00:15:59.000 Well, they even had a report on CBS, who's well-known for its hard-hitting documentaries.

00:16:05.000 This report was incredible, though, because they were showing how that little towns were getting a hundred million dollars for next to nothing.

00:16:15.000 Other places, how they were blowing it.

00:16:17.000 They even had in Washington, D.C., they were giving money from Homeland Security to sanitation workers to take a Dale Carnegie course.

00:16:29.000 That was Homeland Security money.

00:16:30.000 So you're talking about a nation where we've got a debt ratio that at the start of the Bush regime was 78% now it's 308% throwing money away.

00:16:43.000 Now I'm not saying that the Dale Carnegie course is bad, it's a wonderful course, but we shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars to send sanitation workers to a, and I've got nothing against sanitation workers, but not to a Dale Carnegie course!

00:16:56.000 Now, when you've got a debt ratio of 308%, according to the IMF, if it's over 200%, then you are deconstructed third world nation state.

00:17:09.000 We are deconstructing.

00:17:11.000 And deconstructing is another word for collapsing.

00:17:14.000 Look at what's happening to all around America, to our pensions, to everything else.

00:17:18.000 This is waking up people.

00:17:20.000 I've had Al Martin on.

00:17:21.000 Al said, There are only three things that are going to wake up America.

00:17:24.000 Number one, the beer trucks quit running.

00:17:27.000 Domino's doesn't deliver.

00:17:29.000 Those are two of the key things.

00:17:30.000 And if the NFL goes pay-per-view, what does America care about?

00:17:35.000 Well, I think we're beginning to understand because you can see it in the listenership going up on Alex's program and all the programs on GCN.

00:17:44.000 America is starting to wake up.

00:17:46.000 My goodness, with a debt ratio of 308 percent, they're about ready to turn the lights out!

00:17:52.000 Well, look, I mean, you were talking about Homeland Security money, and they found, as you say, a lot of pork in this, but the bigger problem with this federal money and assistance to the states is that it amounts to extortion, bribery, and blackmail in many cases.

00:18:05.000 I mean, if you want to, you know, fund your police department on a standard level that you normally would have a few years ago, you've got to take this Homeland Security money and everything that goes with it.

00:18:15.000 And that's why we're seeing here in Texas these new legislation coming out to track and trace every car.

00:18:22.000 Embedded RFID in the inspection stickers on every car here.

00:18:26.000 The toll booths going up.

00:18:27.000 This is all part of this Homeland Security infrastructure.

00:18:30.000 And I think the states are really at the wrong end of this deal.

00:18:33.000 And they've got to learn to stand up for themselves and say, we're not taking your money under any conditions.

00:18:38.000 We'll take your money.

00:18:39.000 You give us the money and we'll do with it what we feel is best for our state and our cities and towns.

00:18:44.000 We have lost our privacy and we have lost virtually anything that we can do has to become transparent.

00:18:51.000 Otherwise, you're an enemy of the state.

00:18:53.000 However, if you get to looking at the state, Then there are some major problems.

00:18:58.000 One of the things also that I noticed, I'm really worried about this economic situation.

00:19:03.000 Corporate pension accounts.

00:19:04.000 The deficits were $263 billion when Bush came to power.

00:19:09.000 Today it's $1.5 trillion.

00:19:11.000 $1.5 trillion.

00:19:15.000 Trillion dollars.

00:19:16.000 Now that is absolutely incredible.

00:19:17.000 But Erskine, we're in a war, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, we're fighting international war on terror, we're spreading democracy around the world.

00:19:23.000 This is very expensive, and I know Americans enjoy paying for this.

00:19:27.000 I'm sure this is what they thought as they were filing their tax returns last week, is, I'm so happy to pay this money to fight this phony war on terrorism.

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00:24:52.000 Understand, Mr. Jack, blood is in that video.

00:24:55.000 Is that true?

00:24:56.000 I have a brief cameo.

00:24:57.000 That is true.

00:24:58.000 And this was filmed, of course, on the ground during the Republican National Coronation of George W. Bush last summer.

00:25:05.000 Boy, I was just talking to you on the break about this, Erskine, and it was just amazing to me how, you know, as I was relating to you, I was questioned by Secret Service several times.

00:25:14.000 One time for sweating, which I know is definitely an act of terrorism.

00:25:18.000 I'm with Al-Qaeda if I'm sweating. 0.89

00:25:20.000 After walking up 10 floors of Madison Square Garden.

00:25:23.000 But the ironic thing of course, and this kind of fits into what we were just talking about with border security, is that it would have been very easy to perform a suicide bombing during that coronation.

00:25:36.000 So it really showed me that they wanted to purvey a message to the American people and of course to us, the media, That there was a police state, and that they were going to control our every move, and if we got out of line one little bit, we were going to go to Gitmo on the Hudson.

00:25:51.000 But the reality was, when you were on the ground, if you really wanted to perform some act of terrorism, it was really your passion.

00:25:57.000 If you wanted to do that to get your hundred virgins, you could have easily done that in New York.

00:26:01.000 So, again, it's just a complete fake.

00:26:07.000 message being sent to the American people that we should be scared of this police state.

00:26:11.000 You know there's more of us than them.

00:26:12.000 That's the bottom line.

00:26:14.000 There really are, and that's one of the keys, that there are more of us than them, and between what's happening economically, Mr. Bush's drop in power, the idea of a martial law coming into the United States looks more and more plausible.

00:26:27.000 Get the videos, you'll see what's possibly happening.

00:26:31.000 Alex documents everything, martial law, rise of the police state.

00:26:35.000 Also go up to PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, and you know what I think's a good idea?

00:26:40.000 is to get some of the t-shirts that Alex has.

00:26:43.000 He has them for both men and women, because if you get one of those t-shirts, you can identify each other, and then you can show people, we're really understanding what's going on.

00:26:52.000 Let people know that you're understanding, because if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

00:26:58.000 Now, next hour, Paul Joseph Watson is going to join us.

00:27:01.000 Let's go immediately to the lines and take a few calls.

00:27:04.000 John in Florida, welcome to the Alex Jones radio program, John.

00:27:08.000 Hello.

00:27:09.000 Hi, John.

00:27:11.000 I hope you're having a good day, and you've got a question for either Jack, myself, or a statement.

00:27:16.000 Hello, can you hear me?

00:27:17.000 I can, John.

00:27:19.000 Oh, good.

00:27:19.000 Hey, I want to say I used to listen to Alex's show thanks to a Christian broadcast station in the area here at the Panhandle of Florida, but they haven't carried him, so I was just calling in because it's been a long time since I've heard his programming and I wanted to say hi to Alex.

00:27:37.000 Where is he?

00:27:39.000 Where is he, Jack?

00:27:40.000 Alex is on assignment.

00:27:42.000 He is on an investigative report today.

00:27:45.000 How are you listening to the program, if you haven't heard him for a while?

00:27:48.000 Well, let me tell you, I've heard both of you guys, thanks to a micro-broadcaster, and spoken to you respectively at different times over the last three years or so, but right now...

00:27:58.000 I just took a stab at calling the GCN over the phone, and I've been listening for the better part of the last half hour or so.

00:28:07.000 John, what do you think about the pope, the cardinal that's leading in the race to be pope, being part of Hitler Youth? 0.91

00:28:14.000 Well, that's amazing.

00:28:15.000 I wasn't aware of that.

00:28:16.000 I'm glad I've been educated to it.

00:28:17.000 But, you know, I want to say something about the border issue, if I may.

00:28:21.000 Yes, John.

00:28:22.000 Yes, because I'm very concerned.

00:28:24.000 I did a program on that, and the first caller I got was out of Kentucky, the next one out of Pennsylvania.

00:28:29.000 And I asked the guy in Pennsylvania, I said, what do you care?

00:28:31.000 Because I'm broadcasting out of Arizona about What in the heck do you care about the illegal immigration coming across from Mexico?

00:28:39.000 And he said, man, I worked in Meatpacking and my job went from $17 an hour to $7 an hour.

00:28:45.000 That's why he cared.

00:28:47.000 Oskin, since 1963 I've been an enemy of the state.

00:28:50.000 When I was in the military and I was an MP and I spoke up In regards to Posse Comitatus along the border, I was challenged, I was told, oh, Posse Comitatus can't use the military against civilians.

00:29:02.000 And I said, wait a minute.

00:29:03.000 These are people coming in.

00:29:05.000 They're not citizens.

00:29:06.000 They're illegals. 1.00

00:29:08.000 What are we doing?

00:29:09.000 How long ago was that? 1963.

00:29:13.000 Wow, that long ago, and then in the 1950s, President Eisenhower had what he called Operation Wetback, which you'd never name something that again, sent a million back, but what do they not understand?

00:29:25.000 They're not migrant workers, they're illegal, John! 1.00

00:29:28.000 They had this problem a long time, and people seem to say, oh, you can't use the military against civilians.

00:29:34.000 Well, baloney!

00:29:36.000 These are not civilians, they're not citizens! 0.57

00:29:39.000 You're right.

00:29:39.000 Thank you, John.

00:29:40.000 Thanks for the call.

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00:33:01.000 The fascist police state is marching on relentlessly, but we can stand up against it.

00:33:12.000 We can stand up against it with education.

00:33:14.000 We can stand up against it by telling people, showing where we stand with the t-shirts, by going to PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com, and getting the video, making copies of the video, sharing the videos, Especially, Martial Law, Rise of the Police State.

00:33:31.000 Now, how do we get this?

00:33:33.000 You can go up to InfoWars.com, PrisonPlan.com, or call.

00:33:38.000 Not everybody's on the web.

00:33:40.000 Jack was telling me during the break, Jack Blood, that not everybody's on the web, and you're right.

00:33:45.000 It's 888-253-3139.

00:33:45.000 you're right.

00:33:46.000 It's 888-253-3139. 888, and that's toll free.

00:33:52.000 259.

00:33:53.000 Yeah.

00:33:55.000 2-5-3-31-39.

00:33:55.000 Yes, Jack.

00:33:57.000 I mean, this film is three films in one.

00:34:02.000 So you're literally buying three key films on three different subjects.

00:34:06.000 The police state, 9-11, and of course the fake left and right paradigm by getting martial law rise to the police state.

00:34:12.000 So, literally, you should be paying three times more, though.

00:34:16.000 You're just getting three times more bang for your buck.

00:34:18.000 And these films, of course, really wake people up.

00:34:20.000 Erskine, we used to have movie showings Up in Providence, Rhode Island, where hundreds of people would show up at a theater and would sell out the theater showing Alex Jones films and people would bring, you know, their relatives and their co-workers and their friends who were, I guess, neophytes.

00:34:34.000 They didn't know a whole lot about all of this, Erskine, and the New World Order, and after watching these films, I mean, they're just as educated as myself or most of the listeners, I hate to say.

00:34:43.000 Absolutely.

00:34:44.000 These films just bring it right home and they're facts that you can't argue with.

00:34:50.000 Let's go to Brock in B.C.

00:34:52.000 up in British Columbia, Canada.

00:34:54.000 Hello, Brock!

00:34:57.000 Hello, and, um, I... Where in B.C.

00:35:00.000 are you calling from, my friend?

00:35:01.000 Oh, just north of Vancouver, Powell River.

00:35:05.000 Oh, beautiful area, beautiful area.

00:35:07.000 Now, one of the things that I wanted to mention to you, calling from B.C., is that here you've got the United States who has thrown away every treaty concerning softwood lumber.

00:35:19.000 Now, a lot of people in the States don't know what that is, but it's a softwood lumber deal, and this is part of NAFTA, and they have discouraged, they have not paid for it, they are just going against what every court has ruled, and yet your prime minister joins Vicente Fox and yet your prime minister joins Vicente Fox down in Texas, and he signs a new expanded free trade area of the Americas deal.

00:35:42.000 What's going on?

00:35:44.000 This is crazy.

00:35:44.000 I know that's not what you called about, but it's absolutely crazy.

00:35:48.000 This free trade is only for corporations, and it only absolutely puts it to the small people.

00:35:54.000 Go ahead, Brock.

00:35:55.000 Well, you're right, and it's very offensive that they've blown off every, you know, uh... treaty of that uh... them You know, it's just, it's a bullying tactic, and I'm convinced it's run by men so crooked that when they die, they'll have to screw them into the ground.

00:36:15.000 You got that one right, but I'm looking at that, I'm thinking, Paul Martin, why would he sign such a deal when they've broken the other treaties the United States has?

00:36:25.000 Free trade has been bad for America, it's been bad for Canada, it's been bad for Mexico, but great for the corporations.

00:36:32.000 Go ahead with your question, Brock.

00:36:34.000 I wanted to ask where you think the New World Order is going to take policy in the next few short years from now, and I trust that it's being run by high-level masons and devil worshippers. 1.00

00:36:50.000 And I just wonder where you think they're going to take policy say in the next 18 months to two years and how far along are we?

00:37:01.000 Well, you're talking about the Masons and Devil Worshippers. 0.98

00:37:04.000 You're not very far off because all you have to do is look at Alex Jones' videos where he went into Bohemian Grove and showed who was doing it.

00:37:11.000 All you have to do is look at the Gannon Affair and what's going on in the White House today with the number of gays in the White House and draw the comparison with that and the Nazis. 0.73

00:37:23.000 And Jack, where do you think it's going to go?

00:37:25.000 Jack Blood, where do you think...

00:37:28.000 I appreciate the call, Brock, and I'm from the Pacific Northwest, so I feel your pain.

00:37:33.000 I believe this is one of the things that is distracting because we're looking for the next big 9-11.

00:37:38.000 We're constantly being fear-mongered by the establishment media and by the powers that be that the next big Al-Qaeda attack, the next big 9-11 attack is coming.

00:37:48.000 That puts a lot of our listeners in fear that martial law and World War III will follow, and why those are scenarios we could certainly go into, but I don't believe they're the primary scenarios.

00:37:58.000 I believe that it's a Fabian Socialism scenario of incrementalism, and that's why it's so important to get up and stop all these little bills and little laws and embedded legislation of control and the police state while they happen, because they're doing it to us incrementally, and as you say, why people are

00:38:16.000 Downing their six-pack of beer and watching the playoffs on cable TV, you know, this incrementalism moves forward and that's how they want to do it, I believe, Erskine, and that's why it's so important that we get people out there standing up for their rights, standing up for themselves and their families on a daily basis.

00:38:34.000 I think personally, I think we're being attacked.

00:38:37.000 The next major attack or the major attack coming is going to be one of the corporate fascism.

00:38:42.000 I think it's going to be one of economic.

00:38:45.000 We may have another major occurrence and I think biological, but I think that's what's happening.

00:38:51.000 And I also believe that Ultimately, it's going to be for spiritual control.

00:38:56.000 Well, let me say this.

00:38:56.000 Go ahead, Jack.

00:38:58.000 Germany's foreign minister, Jacques Fischer, had warned of a possible confrontation between the U.S.

00:39:04.000 and China.

00:39:04.000 Okay?

00:39:05.000 That's the problem.

00:39:06.000 And we know that they're using peak oil as one of the prerequisites to get this started.

00:39:11.000 And this is what the peak oil guys say.

00:39:13.000 China is going to create war with us over oil.

00:39:16.000 So, you have Germany's foreign minister warning us of this possible confrontation between the U.S.

00:39:20.000 and China.

00:39:21.000 That's the problem.

00:39:22.000 The reaction is a large number of countries also denouncing China's lack of progress on human rights at the Luxembourg meeting.

00:39:29.000 And the solution, and this comes right from this German foreign minister, the big challenge, he says, according to Jacques Fischer, is to integrate emerging world powers such as China and India into the international state system in order to prevent any armed clashes.

00:39:44.000 That sounds an awful lot like the New World Order to me, Erskine.

00:39:47.000 It certainly does.

00:39:48.000 Now, a question for you.

00:39:50.000 Where does the United States import most of its oil from?

00:39:54.000 This is extraordinarily interesting.

00:39:56.000 Is it from Mexico?

00:39:57.000 Is it from Venezuela?

00:39:58.000 Is it from Saudi Arabia?

00:40:01.000 Is it from Iraq?

00:40:02.000 The majority of its oil comes from Alberta, Canada.

00:40:02.000 No.

00:40:06.000 Hey, Brock, did that answer your question?

00:40:09.000 He's speechless.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, I know.

00:40:14.000 Let's go to Jim in Ohio.

00:40:16.000 Jim?

00:40:17.000 You're on the Alex Jones Radio program with Jack Blood.

00:40:21.000 Hi Jack, how are you doing?

00:40:23.000 It wasn't covered very much, but it kind of dovetails into what you've been talking about this morning.

00:40:28.000 There was an article on the Casper Wyoming Star that I saw on the internet about that Operation Falcon, where they rounded up the 10,000 criminals nationwide last week.

00:40:37.000 Well, they had a quote in there from the head of the State National Guard about how successful the operation was.

00:40:43.000 That link has disappeared this morning.

00:40:46.000 And I was wondering, too, what you guys thought that this was practice for, for another type of mass roundup.

00:40:54.000 Oh, it's definitely setting the stage for future roundups, and a lot of people are speculating that many people that were rounded up were on this so-called red and blue list.

00:41:03.000 These are enemies of the state, seditious Americans, people that criticize the government, or God forbid, look George W. Bush in the eye. 0.70

00:41:10.000 But ultimately, here's the debate, here's the argument, because a lot of people Uh, would say, look, they've rounded up a number of criminals, murderers, rapists, uh, bad people we don't want in our society.

00:41:21.000 And while that might be true in a small number of these 10,000 rounded up, uh, you know, probably we did want them on the streets, the majority of them were for minor offenses.

00:41:32.000 I mean, you could get a felony these days by having two drinks and driving your car.

00:41:36.000 And so now if you owe the state, and this is what people on the West Coast know very well, if you owe the state any money, you become public enemy number one.

00:41:43.000 And the guy that does the robbery or the rape, he goes out while you stay in jail until you pay off your fines.

00:41:50.000 Hey, how about that lady, Jack, who they picked up off of the cruise ship because she dropped a candy wrapper a year before in Yellowstone Park?

00:41:58.000 I mean, if you owe the state anything, they'll go after you, if they really want to, for any minor offense.

00:42:05.000 That's what living in California is all about, and I see this happening now all over the United States.

00:42:09.000 This is a very dangerous precedent, and though we do want criminals off the street, and dangerous and violent criminals off the street, and somehow hopefully even rehabilitated without being slave labor for Wackenhut, We certainly need to keep our minds open and our eyes open, Erskine, and make sure that these roundups are highly criticized, that they are investigated, that we know exactly everyone who was picked up and why, so that we, the people, can monitor the government.

00:42:36.000 Well, there was another point to make, too, on Rens' site.

00:42:39.000 They had an article, I believe it was from the AP, that was saying that they let one million illegal aliens go from the jails.

00:42:49.000 If you're caught up on that one, I've got to find it again, but pick them up on one hand and drop them off on the other.

00:42:54.000 Right.

00:42:55.000 Well, if you're an illegal alien, we have a job for you. 1.00

00:42:57.000 There's a lot of jobs that Americans don't want, such as $17 an hour roofing jobs.

00:43:02.000 These are jobs Americans don't want, according, again, to the powers that be.

00:43:07.000 I interviewed both Gray Davis and Jerry Brown when I was up in Boston, and I was going to And this is the company line they gave me about these illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:43:15.000 They're doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do.

00:43:18.000 They're just not used to anybody confronting them on that issue.

00:43:21.000 And when I gave them the facts, they recoiled significantly from that stance.

00:43:25.000 So, again, this is just propaganda.

00:43:27.000 It's psyops.

00:43:28.000 But I'm really concerned about these, Dave, about these red and blue lists and these roundups.

00:43:34.000 I'm really concerned that nobody of any authority, of any true Freedom thinking is monitoring these people.

00:43:42.000 You got that right.

00:43:44.000 Thank you for the call, Jim.

00:43:45.000 Let's go to Dave in Wyoming.

00:43:46.000 Dave, you're on the Alex Jones Radio Program.

00:43:49.000 And remember, PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com.

00:43:55.000 Hi Dave!

00:43:56.000 Welcome aboard!

00:43:57.000 I'm wondering, I used to hear you in the afternoon on 9.985 after I left Jones.

00:44:02.000 Where have you disappeared to?

00:44:04.000 Well I went off shortwave for a month or two.

00:44:06.000 We're coming back on at the end of the month.

00:44:08.000 What's the call?

00:44:09.000 What's the numbers?

00:44:10.000 You can check jackblood.com for the listen live page for the new frequencies.

00:44:15.000 Okay, I got a question.

00:44:19.000 You talked about the, I think the current Pope being a member of the Well, Ratzinger, Cardinal Ratzinger, who's one of the leading candidates to be Pope, he's German, was a member of the Hitler Youth, yeah. 0.65

00:44:32.000 Well, the only thing is, the Nazis and the Germans lost, the Communists won. 0.87

00:44:38.000 I mean, look, the treaty yelled it.

00:44:39.000 We gave Eastern Europe to the Communists, and that's who's running our country today. 0.98

00:44:44.000 Here's the problem that I have.

00:44:46.000 Our college students and seminary students are being trained to be communists, so what I'm saying is they're so sloppy in their handling with all the things that's coming down and forcing it on us.

00:44:55.000 You think that there's a possibility that they could be doing this just to get an uprise out of us so they could call a UN troop in, the quell the disturbance that might rise out of the Patriots, maybe rising up to resist it?

00:45:09.000 Well, I mean... To resist what?

00:45:11.000 The election of the new Pope?

00:45:14.000 No, to resist What the New World Order boys are cramming down our face here in America right now.

00:45:20.000 I think he's giving us the good cop, bad cop scenario, Erskine, with the United Nations, of course, being the good cop.

00:45:26.000 That leads us to John Bolton, which we can talk about in a minute.

00:45:29.000 Well, it also leads to the statement of Henry Kissinger that in the end we will be grateful for the United Nations to come in and maintain order in the United States, be begging for it, that he said at the Bilderberg meeting, I believe.

00:45:42.000 So, yeah, lots and lots of things on that.

00:45:45.000 Thank you for the call.

00:45:47.000 Yeah, back to John Bolton.

00:45:49.000 Here's a guy whose management style is how abrasive?

00:45:52.000 Tell us about him, Jack.

00:45:54.000 Well, there's a lot to say about this guy.

00:45:56.000 He's one of the prime neocons.

00:45:57.000 He's a member of that organization, GINSA, which all of our top leaders are now members of.

00:46:03.000 It's a Jewish International Affairs Policy Organization.

00:46:07.000 He's also a member of the Project for a New American Century.

00:46:10.000 He's also gone on record to say that we are currently now in World War IV in this 40 to 50 year war against terrorism.

00:46:18.000 These are just some of the highlights, of course, with John Bolton.

00:46:21.000 Now, of course, he's been tapped.

00:46:22.000 I love that word, tapped, to be the ambassador to the United Nations, even though he's gone on record many times to be very opposed to the United Nations.

00:46:31.000 So again, this is the dichotomy that we get here in the establishment media.

00:46:35.000 It's now just come out, John Bolton, while he was the head of USAID, you'll see the Orwellian term in this, Erskine, in a second, it's now come out through a whistleblower, Melody Townsall, who was stationed in Kyrgyzstan on a USAID project, that during her stay there, she became embroiled in a controversy, which John Bolton that during her stay there, she became embroiled in a controversy, which John Bolton

00:46:55.000 And she goes on, she writes this letter to the authorities, and describes an incident where she was basically haunted, beaten, and harassed by John Bolton for trying to bring to light some of the problems with USAID.

00:47:08.000 Not specifically that it isn't aiding anybody, it's controlling people!

00:47:12.000 He didn't like that very much, so after months of her getting out there and whistleblowing, he stalked her, literally, and intimidated her to keep her quiet.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a guy who makes the Queen of Mean and also makes people like Leona Helmsley look good.

00:47:33.000 I mean, this guy has a management style that is beyond abrasive.

00:47:37.000 I mean, it is criminal.

00:47:38.000 And yet, they're putting him in as ambassador to the UN.

00:47:42.000 You know it's going to be approved.

00:47:43.000 Well, I know that some phony opposition Democrats are at least going to scream and cry a little bit, maybe even filibuster, but I think it's a foregone conclusion.

00:47:52.000 You know, Bush has gotten every neocon approval, every war criminal, guys like John Dimitri Negroponte and guys like Comrade Cherkov or Alberto Gonzalez, whoever.

00:48:04.000 Got him right through.

00:48:05.000 Look at Paul Wolfowitz, tapped to be head of the World Bank.

00:48:07.000 No problem, no opposition, and now he controls the purse strings for third world nations all around the country.

00:48:13.000 Of course, they're going to grab all their resources, as we know, Erskine, according to the document.

00:48:17.000 Look at Chardoff.

00:48:18.000 Here's Chardoff, who is a dual citizen of the U.S.

00:48:22.000 and of Israel, and he's in charge of what?

00:48:27.000 What's he in charge of, Jack?

00:48:29.000 Did they put him... Yeah, he's the head of Homeland Security, taking over for Tom Ridge.

00:48:32.000 A dual citizen in charge of Homeland Security, and we're talking and concerned about spies and everything else in this... Look, they tried to get... 0.96

00:48:42.000 They tried to get Carrick in there, Bernie Carrick, and then all the skeletons came out of his closet.

00:48:47.000 He was an employee of Giuliani Partners of New York, and so was Chertoff, also an employee, also one of these guys that helps draft these torture memos.

00:48:57.000 I mean, we want somebody who is a proponent for torture involved in something as huge, a massive bureaucracy, like Homeland Security.

00:49:06.000 He was involved in torture, he is a dual citizen, and yet he got approved with zero, zero votes against him in the Senate.

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00:49:53.000 Let's go to Russell in Florida.

00:49:55.000 Russell, are you there?

00:49:56.000 Yes, sir.

00:49:57.000 Thanks for taking my call, Jack.

00:49:59.000 Pleasure to talk to you both.

00:50:00.000 Yeah, you're right about Lou Dobbs.

00:50:02.000 He's one of the only ones out there that even remotely He looks like he's getting a little frustrated with things, doesn't he?

00:50:14.000 He looks like he's getting, it's like, you know, I'm here and I'm really getting frustrated that I'm the only one.

00:50:20.000 He looks like he's aged some to me, maybe because he's fighting, you know, a huge, huge mass of lies every day.

00:50:28.000 But yeah, he does look frustrated.

00:50:31.000 And you know, you gotta wonder if it's really genuine or not.

00:50:34.000 I think it is, but... Hold on Russell, because when we come back, you'll be able to have any comments that you want to make, or questions for myself, Erskine, or Jack Blunt.

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00:53:56.000 This is Erskine and Jack Lutz sitting in today for the great Alex Jones.

00:54:15.000 Reminding you that on PrisonPlanet.com and especially on InfoWars.com, there's a new report up there about the Minutemen, so you can be absolutely 100% up to date and coming up next are Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:54:31.000 We're talking with Russell in Florida.

00:54:32.000 Russell, you have a comment or a question that you wanted to make?

00:54:36.000 Yeah, I do.

00:54:38.000 I travel frequently around the country.

00:54:41.000 I go to New York quite a bit.

00:54:43.000 But for the first time in my life, I just got back from Europe.

00:54:45.000 I was in Spain and I was in London.

00:54:48.000 And I gotta tell you guys, it seems like they in Europe live more free than we do here in America now.

00:54:54.000 Jack witnessed at first hand the police state in New York City during the Republican Convention.

00:54:59.000 And I go up to New York a lot and just the attitude of the police and the amount of police in comparison to where I was in Europe.

00:55:08.000 It seems like not only has it become a huge business here, but it's become... I just think that they're targeting the United States, which definitely the New World Order is targeting the United States, but it just seems like we're being targeted.

00:55:21.000 We've got to catch up to Europe.

00:55:23.000 Look, I've been to Europe many times.

00:55:24.000 The fact is they have more cameras watching you than anywhere on Earth, and they've replaced the rights of the people with privileges.

00:55:32.000 The Magna Carta gave people rights.

00:55:34.000 Of course, the EU Constitution and some of the future legislation in Europe gives people privileges.

00:55:40.000 And I wonder if the listeners would rather have a right or a privilege, Erskine.

00:55:44.000 I understand what you're saying, but I've also talked to a number of people who are saying that even in Russia and China, I've talked to people who are former CIA people, they're saying that they're having more freedom of speech, more freedom of the press than they have in the U.S., Look what happened with Putin.

00:56:02.000 I mean, they are just tightening us down.

00:56:05.000 It's like the frog in the pot.

00:56:06.000 They just keep turning up the heat.

00:56:08.000 Russell, thank you my friend for the call.

00:56:10.000 Let's go immediately to Bill in Florida.

00:56:13.000 Bill, you got a comment?

00:56:15.000 Hello, a little bit on the anti-Catholic bigotry I heard there.

00:56:18.000 I know that Alex Jones would never come out with stories unverified.

00:56:22.000 For example, that John Paul II was involved in manufacturing, or, yeah, cycling B to gas to Jews. 0.95

00:56:30.000 That was the implication of what the...

00:56:32.000 We certainly don't speak for Alex Jones, and I don't know if... I think we're speaking to adults here for the most part, and I don't know if we have to put a disclaimer on this.

00:56:39.000 What he said was...

00:56:40.000 I've never heard any kind of stuff like that from Alex Jones.

00:56:43.000 We certainly don't speak for Alex Jones, and I don't know if...

00:56:47.000 I think we're speaking to adults here for the most part, and I don't know if we have to put a disclaimer on this.

00:56:51.000 I mean, this is information, and you're free to check out the information for yourself.

00:56:56.000 Verified.

00:56:57.000 Verified that he did not work as a slave, if that's what you're talking about.

00:57:01.000 Are you saying that everybody who works in slave labor camps intentionally does things that, you know, they did?

00:57:09.000 My impression is that if that is true, that he had no idea what those Cyclone B was for, but to insinuate that he had full knowledge that it was The gas use is just ridiculous.

00:57:25.000 Okay, now wait a second.

00:57:27.000 We're not insinuating.

00:57:28.000 The fact of the matter is for a very short time he was a salesman for IG Farben.

00:57:33.000 Carol, I forgot his last name, was a salesman for IG Farben that sold the Zyklon B. That's the story that's true.

00:57:41.000 It can be checked out.

00:57:42.000 Did he sell Zyklon B?

00:57:44.000 I don't know.

00:57:44.000 That's what I've heard.

00:57:46.000 How about you, Jack?

00:57:47.000 No, no, what we should say is that the Pope ended Communism and he was a great world leader and led to, I think, with faith, a billion Catholics.

00:57:58.000 I heard you say one time, Jack, that you were a Catholic, maybe the last Catholic, I'm not sure.

00:58:02.000 That's true.

00:58:03.000 There are a lot of people out there that support, well, you know, to distribute the distribution of Alex's tapes and DVDs.

00:58:11.000 I myself am one of them.

00:58:12.000 There's a lot of Catholics that help to distribute them.

00:58:16.000 Um, you know, I mean, to insinuate that the Catholic Church or, sorry, the, which, I mean, the Pope as the one world leader that stood for life from the womb to the tomb.

00:58:28.000 I'm very sick because I've been through a lot.

00:58:32.000 Bill, we're going to have to go.

00:58:34.000 Take a break right now, but I certainly appreciate the call and appreciate what you had to say.

00:58:40.000 You're absolutely right.

00:58:41.000 Religion is something that maybe we should stay away from. 1.00

00:58:44.000 I think it's a good idea, too.

00:58:46.000 But we'll be right back.

00:58:49.000 Second hour coming up.

00:58:50.000 Hello.

00:58:51.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:14.000 Jack Blood here with you, along with me, the one and only Erskine, along with me, the one and only Erskine, both of us on Genesis Communications Radio Networks.

00:59:35.000 So glad you could join us for the Alex Jones program today.

00:59:37.000 Alex is on assignment and will be back tomorrow.

00:59:40.000 Great show lined up for you today, folks.

00:59:42.000 Paul Joseph Watson here, joining us in the second hour, and for the remainder of the program, of course, we're taking your calls at 1-800-259-9231.

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00:59:56.000 Earthskin is on every Saturday night, midnight Eastern Time on Genesis Communications Radio Network.

01:00:04.000 I am on right after the Alex Jones Show, Monday through Friday, 2 p.m.

01:00:08.000 to 4 p.m.

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01:00:10.000 And just really proud to be on Genesis with a guy like Erskine.

01:00:13.000 Erskine, it's a pleasure to be working with you, sir.

01:00:16.000 It's wonderful to be working with you, Jack.

01:00:18.000 And I'm telling you, it's wonderful to be on Alex Jones' show.

01:00:22.000 I always get so many letters when I'm on there.

01:00:24.000 My website, by the way, is Erskine, E-R-S-K-I-N-E, on radio.com.

01:00:30.000 Jack's is jackblood.com.

01:00:32.000 And, of course, Alex, you want to go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:37.000 I understand there's a terrific report on the Minutemen up there.

01:00:40.000 That's right.

01:00:41.000 They have some new information coming out on the Minutemen and how a pro-illegal organization is confronting the Minutemen out there.

01:00:48.000 No, I don't want to offend anyone that's pro-illegal immigration.

01:00:51.000 God forbid we offend anybody with the truth, Erskine.

01:00:55.000 That's something I think that we should be very careful of.

01:00:57.000 You know, I have to remind you, it's Patriots Day today, and tomorrow is a really big day.

01:01:02.000 Of course, it's the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, the 12th anniversary of the Waco bombing, of course the anniversary of, speaking of the Nazis, the Nazis moving into Warsaw, Poland, and burning, literally burning the ghettos in Warsaw, Poland. 0.63

01:01:17.000 I think a lot of correlations to Waco, as the people of Poland were arming themselves against the Nazis.

01:01:23.000 So we have a big day coming up tomorrow and maybe sometime during the broadcast today we'll talk a little bit about Oklahoma City.

01:01:28.000 I saw a fair and balanced report on Fox News last night about the unanswered questions of Oklahoma City.

01:01:35.000 Of course, they didn't ask any of the unanswered questions.

01:01:38.000 And I see something very dangerous happening, especially with Oklahoma City now, Erskine.

01:01:42.000 I'd like to get your comment on that before we go back to calls.

01:01:45.000 And that is, particularly, the John Doe No.

01:01:48.000 2 theory.

01:01:49.000 Now, they've written that off as being an innocent bystander, but I'm seeing more and more today that they're putting up links between the, quote, white supremacists or separatists here in the United States and Al-Qaeda and the Muslims.

01:02:01.000 Reported on Fox News last night, there was a direct connection with both Nichols and McVeigh and the guys that blew up the World Trade Center in 1993.

01:02:09.000 I guess that would be the FBI, Erskine.

01:02:12.000 Well, I mean, I never saw anything so quick as the rush to execute Mr. McVeigh, but when you're looking at the situation, I think we've got Lee Harvey McVeigh.

01:02:23.000 I think that's the best way to describe it.

01:02:25.000 We've got people who saw them putting bombs into the building the day before.

01:02:30.000 We've got Jenna, who's the reporter over there, who tells a really amazing story.

01:02:35.000 You've also got the story of the IRS agents who just didn't show up that day, the federal employees who were late showing up or didn't show up.

01:02:45.000 I mean, there are certain points where you can say, this is a coincidence, this is a coincidence, but if you connect all those dots, there certainly is a lot more to that story than we've heard.

01:02:58.000 Well, my point specifically though, there are a lot of questions and I'm going to be getting into this thoroughly all week on our program here on Genesis Deadline Live, again following Alex Jones.

01:03:07.000 But the thing that I think is most alarming is that as they kind of brushed aside the Muslim presence during the Oklahoma City bombing, now they are all too willing to embrace it as we are on this global manhunt for Islamic terrorists. 0.65

01:03:22.000 So this is all too convenient now, Erskine.

01:03:25.000 Have you had Charlie Key on?

01:03:26.000 He is excellent on Oklahoma City.

01:03:28.000 He wrote what's called The Final Report, which is a massive, massive document.

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01:07:14.000 Welcome back to the program.

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01:07:32.000 No, you're not.

01:07:33.000 You're Jack Blood.

01:07:34.000 You aren't Alex Jones.

01:07:35.000 That wasn't even a good Alex Jones.

01:07:37.000 But I can certainly appreciate what you're doing, Jack.

01:07:40.000 Jack Blood and Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones.

01:07:44.000 And this is your hour, Jack, because we're going to have Paul Joseph Watson join you.

01:07:48.000 So go ahead.

01:07:50.000 We got a caller, Jack?

01:07:51.000 Yeah, I want to take Fred and Philly, who's been holding patiently.

01:07:54.000 And I'm going to go right to Paul Joseph Watson and get the news from PrisonPlanet.com.

01:07:59.000 Let's go to Fred and Philly.

01:08:00.000 Thank you for patiently holding.

01:08:01.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:02.000 Hi, Jack.

01:08:03.000 It's been a while.

01:08:05.000 I want to recommend a magazine called Global Outlook.

01:08:09.000 I know Pete Pallauer, Joyce Riley uses them a lot, and other people.

01:08:15.000 Alex Jones has written for it.

01:08:18.000 Have you heard of Global Outlook by any chance?

01:08:21.000 That's a new one on me, Erskine.

01:08:23.000 New one on me, too.

01:08:25.000 They're Canadian, and they're uncowled, if you know what I'm saying. 1.00

01:08:25.000 Well, they're good. 1.00

01:08:31.000 They're very bold.

01:08:34.000 They back up almost all the things that Alex has been saying in detail.

01:08:39.000 And they're from Canada, so they don't... Well, let me put it this way. 0.86

01:08:42.000 They don't have most of the screws able to be turned on them because they are from Canada.

01:08:49.000 The other thing that I'm calling about is the fact that we have a big naval presence moving towards Iran.

01:09:01.000 Or maybe already positioned off Iran.

01:09:03.000 And the way I'm looking at this situation over there, I think that you're going to have a fait accompli on the confrontation with Iran. 0.54

01:09:15.000 And I think that it is coming.

01:09:16.000 Because we've already stated that we won't accept, we may not be stating that right now, but we have stated, and it is a part of policy, that we will not accept a nuclear armed Iran. 0.92

01:09:29.000 And they have said that they I do intend to be adequately armed and develop nuclear energy to the point of possibly

01:09:40.000 Being able to have nuclear weapons, so... Now listen, we moved our naval fleet from off the coast of North Korea, that certainly does have arms, and off the coast of China, that has threatened to take over Taiwan, so we move it down to Iran, who says we may get nuclear arms. 0.77

01:10:00.000 Well, what the deal is, Iran is coming in with a new oil market, And they are going to base oil on the denier versus the U.S. 0.58

01:10:10.000 dollar.

01:10:11.000 So here we go again.

01:10:13.000 We're going to Iran when we've got countries like North Korea sitting up there threatening us directly.

01:10:19.000 You've got China threatening Taiwan directly.

01:10:22.000 So we move our forces all the way down to Iran, who isn't threatening anybody right now.

01:10:27.000 Another case of weapons of mass deception!

01:10:31.000 You said it, Erskine, and I find it interesting that Thomas Barnett, who is the author of the Pentagon's new map, works directly for the Pentagon, Navy War College, says we should give nukes to Iran and we should just let China go ahead and get Taiwan, though we know now that they're practicing war games specifically to go into Iran, that being the United States and Israel.

01:10:52.000 As we speak, we're looking at potentially a June invasion if things don't go their way.

01:10:56.000 I heard around June 20th or 30th.

01:10:59.000 I want to say one thing else about Charles Keyes.

01:11:02.000 The former congressman on Power Hour, he said he wanted someone to step up in the audience and be, let's say, a central point person for FOIA requests because what's happening is that there's been a blanket on fulfilling FOIA requests and I think, and he thinks, that it would be good to have a non-partisan person at least letting other people know

01:11:32.000 What is being requested?

01:11:33.000 I don't know anything on the internet that is pulling together all the FOIA requests and letting everyone know because it's a constitutional and statutory right and it doesn't really matter on what part of the spectrum you are.

01:11:47.000 I think that if someone, I would be willing to be a member of let's say a group that did that and I think that if we don't do that I think we're going to be divided and conquered On the policy of flattening this FOIA Act.

01:12:04.000 What do you think?

01:12:05.000 Well, thanks for the call, Fred, first of all, and that's a good point.

01:12:08.000 You know, Erskine, I saw President Bush take this question directly as he was doing a press conference on Friday, and he passed the buck.

01:12:14.000 Do you know that there's a famous plaque on Harry Truman's desk?

01:12:19.000 The buck stops here, right?

01:12:21.000 Well, Bush...

01:12:22.000 And Mr. Clinton had never got there.

01:12:24.000 Well, and Bush and his father have the plaque on their desk saying the buck gets passed here.

01:12:28.000 So that's generally how they handle things like information on FOIA requests.

01:12:33.000 Major, major issue.

01:12:35.000 I'm telling you, the presidency, the government is becoming less and less and less open, whereas we are becoming more and more and more transparent as we lose all of our privacy.

01:12:48.000 But it's the way of the New World Order. 0.67

01:12:51.000 Don't vote on this.

01:12:52.000 Take all these people at the World Trade Organization, NAFTA, CAFTA, all these people are going to all these meetings.

01:12:58.000 Who voted for them?

01:12:59.000 Did Congress?

01:13:00.000 No, nobody voted for these people.

01:13:02.000 Nobody's really voting on what they're doing.

01:13:04.000 And so it's less and less and less power for the people, more and more concentrated central power for the government.

01:13:11.000 And I thought being a conservative, as I considered myself, meant smaller government.

01:13:18.000 And look at what we've got, Jack.

01:13:19.000 Well, Fred had brought up finding someone non-partisan to head this committee to grant FOIA requests.

01:13:26.000 I'd like to know the definition of non-partisan, and according to my definition, I don't know where they're going to find the guy unless it's me or you or one of our listeners, Erskine.

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01:14:01.000 Paul, thanks for being on the program.

01:14:03.000 Great to have you.

01:14:03.000 Good to be on the air today, Jack.

01:14:06.000 We were talking about a lot of issues, Erskine and I and the listeners, today.

01:14:09.000 And I think one of the more important ones is what is happening now with Iran. 0.77

01:14:14.000 I wondered if you'd like to comment on the last call.

01:14:17.000 Well, yeah, there's actually an article we've got on PrisonPlanet.com today, which, for many, the source of which is, in some doubt, is Debka, which many see as an Israeli intelligence agency front.

01:14:30.000 But it's Pakistan gets F-16s in exchange for US bases to attack Iran. 0.59

01:14:36.000 So make of that what you will.

01:14:38.000 But as your previous caller mentioned, the June date was a hot button point for when they wanted to go in there.

01:14:45.000 I think it was Scott Ritter that came out and said that was then, at that point, they would not only go into Iran, but the pretext would be to reinstate the draft.

01:14:55.000 Yeah.

01:14:55.000 I don't see it happening that soon.

01:14:57.000 I mean, what, we're getting towards the end of April now?

01:15:00.000 Without some major kind of event and the only major event which I see on the horizon.

01:15:06.000 is this global flu pandemic which will be very difficult to blame on Iranian-linked terrorists seen as it's already been admitted that it was sent out by mistake from US labs.

01:15:19.000 So I think with Iran you're looking towards mid-2006 to when they go in there and obviously the need for the draft will be there because we are tied down in Iraq, when I say we, the Well, the fact of the matter is that George W. Bush wanted the draft board ready to have the draft for 75 days at the end of last month.

01:15:37.000 draft going on so there will need to be some kind of event which will create a draft back to the matter is that george w bush wanted the draft board ready to have the draft for 75 days at the end of last month so 75 days counting off they're ready to go anytime after that You know, I wonder, Paul, if you've seen this new video, this new TV commercial coming out by the, I guess, the equivalent of the Iranian National Congress out of Bethesda, Maryland, of all places.

01:16:07.000 The Atomic 9-11. 0.81

01:16:08.000 This is going to be airing on TV stations all over the country, including here in Texas, which warns us of the coming mushroom cloud nuclear attack if we don't do something about Iran. 0.92

01:16:18.000 Now, that sounds very familiar.

01:16:19.000 That's the same message we got from Iraq, I don't think it'll sell again, Jack.

01:16:25.000 I really don't think it'll sell again.

01:16:27.000 I think people, honestly, at least half the people in this country know that we were sold a bill of weapons of mass deception, and I don't think it's going to sell again.

01:16:38.000 Number one, we can't afford it.

01:16:40.000 This war has cost us $200 billion.

01:16:43.000 How many lives?

01:16:44.000 How many people injured?

01:16:46.000 I don't think America has the stomach to go into Iran and invade another country for oil and Halliburton.

01:16:53.000 Paul, are we susceptible to another Ahmad Chalabi with this Iran Freedom Foundation out of Bethesda, Maryland?

01:17:00.000 Well, there's no doubt that the neocons will believe that we are, because obviously they're proponents of the Straussian philosophy of the noble lie, the old Hitler creed that the bigger the lie, the more likely people are to believe it.

01:17:14.000 And so, as with Iraq, people now know that the intelligence was based on the depositions of People like Curveball, the drunken alcoholic source for many of the weapons of mass destruction information. 0.67

01:17:31.000 So there's no doubt that they'll try exactly the same process again.

01:17:34.000 They'll use the same template, and whether the American people will buy it remains to be seen.

01:17:39.000 Erskine, my friend, I think you underestimate the dumbed-down capabilities of the American people.

01:17:47.000 I hope I didn't, but as Barnum said, nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public.

01:17:52.000 But still, I want to believe in my heart of hearts that they aren't going to fall for it again.

01:18:00.000 Once bitten, twice shy.

01:18:01.000 They've got to be aware of what's going on.

01:18:04.000 That they lied to us about weapons of mass destruction.

01:18:08.000 They lied to us about everything going on in Iraq.

01:18:11.000 And their only response is, didn't you think that Saddam was a bad person?

01:18:17.000 Yes, he was a bad person.

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01:23:41.000 I wanted to get an update, Paul, if you could, on the Secret Service visiting that art show in Columbia, and the implications of that.

01:23:50.000 If you could detail that for the listeners, and let's take for granted that a lot of people maybe didn't hear the story.

01:23:55.000 In Columbia College, this came out.

01:24:02.000 Um, and the artwork featured fake postage stamps with pictures of Bush's head on them, with a gun aimed towards Bush's head, among other things.

01:24:13.000 And the Secret Service turned up and asked for the addresses and phone numbers of the people involved in the art exhibit, in their zeal to protect America.

01:24:22.000 And what was interesting to me was the media reaction after the event.

01:24:27.000 There's a Chicago Sun-Times article out today, which is the first paper that reported the story.

01:24:34.000 Which legitimizes the whole thing and says that basically in a post 9-11 world, it's the Secret Service's job to investigate these kind of things, which also include, as we've featured in the past, things like neighbors calling the police on a guy flying the American flag upside down in his backyard.

01:24:54.000 A 12-year-old kid, you know, writes a research paper on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.

01:25:00.000 The Joint Terrorism Task Force show up.

01:25:02.000 Students in Oakland.

01:25:04.000 There's a class discussion.

01:25:05.000 A couple of the students disagree with Bush's policies.

01:25:09.000 They get interrogated by the Secret Service.

01:25:12.000 People get arrested in shopping malls wearing peace t-shirts.

01:25:16.000 And I actually talked to someone who was also visited by the Joint Terrorism Task Force because His neighbours actually called them because he and his wife were staying up past 2am on most nights.

01:25:28.000 And they actually showed up at his front door and started asking questions, so staying up late is now a potential form of terrorism.

01:25:36.000 The point to mention is that in reality all the real threats, not just to the security of the country, but the economy and everything else, are purposefully ignored by both the government and the media.

01:25:48.000 Now we have this new report out today.

01:25:52.000 Airport security is no better since September 11th.

01:25:55.000 And of course the media don't point out that fondling pregnant women You know, making eight-year-old men take off their shoes and putting Ted Kennedy on a no-fly list contributed to that lack of proper security. 0.99

01:26:07.000 They tell us that we're going to have to accept more of that kind of thing to make us secure.

01:26:13.000 Well, Paul, where is the wonderful ACLU in this deal with Columbia and the ARCTA exhibition?

01:26:20.000 Well, they're nowhere to be seen.

01:26:21.000 Yeah.

01:26:22.000 Because, um, same with the Terry Jarvis situation, if you have somebody on death row undergoing that kind of, um, treatment, you know, a war crime banned by the Geneva Convention, then they'd be involved in the case.

01:26:35.000 But because it's a pro-life issue, they're nowhere to be seen.

01:26:38.000 Paul, this seems to me that this is not a war on terrorism, it's a war against the American people!

01:26:46.000 Well, that's exactly the point, because while we're submitting to all this in the airports and elsewhere, in North Carolina we have this story where dozens of illegal aliens are given these high-tech secure aircraft mechanics jobs.

01:27:02.000 The situation down on the Arizona border, Um, the first phase of the Minuteman Project, no illegal aliens get through the area being watched by the Minutemen group.

01:27:12.000 And, you know, what does the media do?

01:27:14.000 Does the media congratulate them on their success?

01:27:17.000 Encourage the government to fund more grassroots schemes like this?

01:27:21.000 No, you know, they go and dig out the three top spokesmen of the racist Mexican La Raza affiliated groups to demonize a bunch of people with lawn chairs and binoculars.

01:27:32.000 Let's also look at what they're doing with the American people.

01:27:35.000 We're going to have to have biometric passports to go anywhere out of the country to Canada, Mexico, and you can bring back maybe three months worth of drugs from there for prescription drugs.

01:27:50.000 That's about it.

01:27:51.000 You're going to have a national ID card, which a lot of Christians think is the mark of the beast, and I'm not going to disagree with them on that one bit. 0.97

01:28:00.000 The national ID card with the biometrics, with all of your personal information.

01:28:05.000 It has your financial information, your health information.

01:28:08.000 We have no privacy anymore.

01:28:10.000 We have no freedom anymore in this brave new world.

01:28:14.000 They have indeed created their own order out of chaos.

01:28:18.000 Well, and the point to make with the ID cards, as you mentioned, was, you know, why do they want to know this?

01:28:24.000 Why do they want to know where you've been?

01:28:26.000 You know, your magazine subscriptions, your financial records, everything.

01:28:30.000 It's not just making sure that the serfs know who their master is.

01:28:34.000 We've got to go to a break, Paul.

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01:33:47.000 One of the key things is that we're looking at this biometrics that has your financial data, it has your health data, and of course it's only going to be used for law enforcement.

01:33:57.000 It'll never get out.

01:33:59.000 And you've got to have the ID with it encoded on there.

01:34:03.000 You've also got to have it on your passport.

01:34:05.000 That's going to become mandatory.

01:34:07.000 What's going on with this?

01:34:09.000 It certainly is a fact where we have zero privacy anymore.

01:34:13.000 Isn't that true, Paul?

01:34:15.000 And what do you have to say about that, Paul?

01:34:18.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:34:19.000 Here's the agenda behind the ID cards.

01:34:22.000 Or just the very notion of having to present some form of identification to a designated authority figure.

01:34:29.000 And, you know, this could apply to airport security, drunk driving checkpoints, seatbelt checkpoints, whatever.

01:34:37.000 The process of showing your identification is not primarily so the authority figure knows who you are.

01:34:45.000 That's obviously part of what it's about.

01:34:47.000 But moreover, it's to ensure that your behavioural tendencies show a willing obedience to authority.

01:34:56.000 And here's an example.

01:34:57.000 Um, if airport security asks you to show extra identification and you respond, you know, in a simpering, inferior manner by saying that you forgot to bring any, then more likely than not, they will let you through, over and above, if you refuse to show identity because you believe it's a violation of your God-given rights.

01:35:19.000 So, the benchmark isn't whether or not you show identity, it's whether or not you display obedience to authority.

01:35:28.000 You hit the nail on the head there Paul and just like the cards we get at the grocery store where you become a preferred customer and you get all of the discounts and they share your data with anybody who wants to pay for it we have the same problem with these biometrics you know and I think a lot of people don't know if they haven't been to Boston Logan Airport or Well, yeah.

01:35:46.000 certain airports where this new version of CAPS 2 is being tested, they don't really know how this is going to work.

01:35:52.000 But as you say, if you don't go along with the system, if you're going to rock the boat, if you're a system buster in any way, you'll be targeted and investigated.

01:36:00.000 I mean, we've seen that over and over again.

01:36:02.000 Well, yeah.

01:36:03.000 As you mentioned with the things like the store loyalty cards, the other side of it is the commercial aspect.

01:36:09.000 With the advent of RFID technology and its applications in the commercial sector, we're entering what is basically a minority report experience, those who have seen the film, whereby the RFID chip in your national ID card and eventually the one implanted in your arm stores reams of data about your buying habits.

01:36:31.000 And so then these smart billboards, which they've developed, change to purposefully direct their advertising towards you based on what your record shows you'd be interested in buying.

01:36:42.000 We've already got to the stage where in major Japanese cities, they have this directed audio beam technology, which can transmit directly into your inner ear the sales pitch for things like the Coke machine They already have the Coke vending machines in Tokyo which do that.

01:37:00.000 And then there's the criminal application where the transponder tags on your cars, which will become mandatory as they're trying to do in Texas with a bill they're trying to pass, will be scanned for any minor insurance or unpaid ticket violation.

01:37:16.000 We've got an article on PrisonPlanet.com today which talks about the Eurocopter which is a police helicopter in the UK that can scan five cars a second and in the US we had the articles a couple of weeks ago about the boot finder system which is already being used to target people for overdue library books.

01:37:38.000 Well then they had the thing, Paul, about the rental car company that was fining people for speeding.

01:37:46.000 That's exactly what they do, and you know, there was a day where you could drive on the Autobahn in Germany as fast as you wanted to, and you know, that was a wonderful thing.

01:37:55.000 I'm sure they had some accidents, and yeah, I'm sure they had some drunk drivers.

01:37:58.000 Now, they rigorously enforce the speed limit there, and they have cameras all along the Autobahn to get your picture, get your license plate picture, and send you a little notice in the mail, much like they do here with the stoplight cameras.

01:38:10.000 You've been busted!

01:38:11.000 You were caught speeding!

01:38:12.000 Yeah, and they've just passed the bill in Germany for mandatory GPS trackers on all vehicles, which was in the news last week.

01:38:20.000 Yet, a lot of people go back to sleep because they tell us now that the Matrix database system has been shut down.

01:38:27.000 A program, by the way, set up for the US government by an accused cocaine smuggler.

01:38:33.000 When in actual fact, a lot of these programs, like Total Information Awareness, just go dark, just go underground and get their funding through the black budget and things like industry donations.

01:38:44.000 So it's just another tentacle of the Leviathan.

01:38:47.000 Yeah, I think that people will take this a lot more seriously when they get a note from their insurance company that they've been buying cigarettes at the local shopping mall, or shopping store, and therefore their insurance will go up 50%.

01:39:00.000 I mean, that's just one way to, of course, line their pockets, but the issues I think we're all concerned about are the control mechanisms being set into place.

01:39:08.000 This is a high-tech society, and though, you know, we have always had certain control mechanisms and measures, what really gets scary is the high-tech end of this, which has now come in for the 20th and 21st century, Paul.

01:39:20.000 You know, if Adolf Hitler had these methods, he had the biometrics, he had the new mapping of the genes, he would have been absolutely in heaven. 0.97

01:39:30.000 One question for you, Paul Joseph Watson.

01:39:33.000 Your book, Order Out of Chaos, in order to maintain an order, in order to bring this in, they had to create a chaotic situation.

01:39:41.000 That is the essence of your book, but you go into such great detail and you have it so well documented from the mainstream.

01:39:49.000 Are we being set up right now?

01:39:51.000 Are they starting to lose to where they're going to have to create another chaotic situation in your mind?

01:39:58.000 Well, yes, that's exactly what's over the horizon.

01:40:00.000 You were talking about Oklahoma City earlier, which was the second stage of it.

01:40:04.000 Give me a time frame on this, Paul, if you've got a time frame that they should have another major event happen by such and such and so and so.

01:40:13.000 Get a little crystal ball gazing out because I know the way you have studied it, the way you have written about this, you have your finger on the pulse as to how these people are thinking and how they're acting.

01:40:24.000 When you read that book, Order Out of Chaos, you understand why a lot of these things are occurring that seems to be random Well, there is no doubt that they wanted an attack on the magnitude of 9-11, on the scale of 9-11, within the immediate year after 9-11.

01:40:42.000 Major reason why they backed off from doing it is the fact that everybody was blowing the whistle on how 9-11 was an inside job.

01:40:49.000 And that's not just a cliche to say, there is no doubt that we have backed them off to a certain extent on carrying out another attack.

01:40:57.000 First World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing and 9-11 were a three-pronged attack on the American people, but it was only the first phase.

01:41:05.000 The next phase will be elevated to such a substantial degree that it will cause such massive nationwide and worldwide chaos that they will have to very carefully control that chaos without it descending into anarchy.

01:41:19.000 Something like 9-11 is small fry compared to what they have in store because they knew from the very start, they had scripted the whole event the whole day.

01:41:28.000 I'm thinking the next one has to be biological.

01:41:29.000 that outright chaos whereby they would lose control of the consequences would not happen. - I'm thinking the next one has to be biological.

01:41:38.000 Is that in accordance with what you're thinking? - Yeah, and they may even shift away from the whole terrorist route, then they can say that they protected us from the terrorists, there was no attack after 9/11, but now this new evil will emerge which could come from the flu pandemic We have the 1918 deadly Spanish flu virus, Being played around with by US scientists at less than the maximum level of security according to New Scientist magazine.

01:42:08.000 Now we have this other flu virus being sent out from labs by pure mistake.

01:42:14.000 You know, we can really trust that it was a mistake and nobody was involved in the purposeful sending out of this virus to create panic and an eventual excuse to blame the pandemic on.

01:42:24.000 So it seems to me they'll shift away from the terrorist aspect, the terrorist paradigm and It will be either man-made or, well, I mean like natural disaster.

01:42:34.000 They could actually fake a bioterrorist attack, show a couple of people on TV dying a horrible death, and of course people will line right up into the quarantine camps and into the vaccination camps.

01:42:45.000 You know, I interviewed Oliver North and I asked him, you know, about anthrax and anthrax vaccinations in the war in Iraq, and he went on with great glee to tell me how they would show these films to the troops who maybe didn't want to take the anthrax vaccine, and once they saw the people dying their horrible death, they all, you just laugh, they all took the vaccine, you know.

01:43:05.000 So it would be very easy for them to even fake this.

01:43:08.000 Paul, what do you think the reality is that these third world terrorists can keep and manage and maintain something as sophisticated as a bioweapon? 0.96

01:43:15.000 There's no possibility whatsoever, and the point that I've made before is that if there are all these terrorists running around our back garden, as we are led to believe, here in Britain, there have been 500 arrests on the grounds of terrorism.

01:43:30.000 Only two were ever charged, and that was with immigration fraud.

01:43:34.000 Yet the immediate swoop, the arrest, is on the front page of the newspaper, the clarification that there was no actual evidence for the arrest and no plot, as with the ricin attack which recently came out, is in the back of the newspaper.

01:43:47.000 So, things like the bio-attack would be prepared.

01:43:50.000 We've had all these drills in Boston and other places whereby you have men in black ski masks, bio-suits, barking orders to people.

01:43:59.000 Here in Britain they've sent out pamphlets to every home in the country telling people exactly where to go in the event of attack.

01:44:06.000 They've set up western relocation camps.

01:44:09.000 Yeah, Paul, you know they laid this all out last season on 24.

01:44:11.000 Weren't you watching that?

01:44:15.000 Well, you know, MK Delta and Plum Island are still up and running, and they certainly have a plan.

01:44:22.000 They are still developing, and as Paul said, very, very cogent, the 1918 Spanish Flu that killed millions of people is still being shopped around to at least six different institutions.

01:44:35.000 And when you're looking at this situation, With the 1918 flu, this fits in with the Rockefeller eugenics movement where they're trying to eliminate so many of the useless eaters, as they call it. 0.97

01:44:48.000 Is that right, Paul?

01:44:50.000 Well, yeah, that's right.

01:44:51.000 The Spanish Flu, they had it at biosecurity level 4, which means people dealing with it have full bio-suits.

01:44:58.000 And then they downgraded it to a level 3, where people wear no protective headgear and they're walking in and out of the facility at their own volition without even being checked.

01:45:09.000 Definitely, there is an eventual agenda for depopulation.

01:45:13.000 They beta-tested it with the AIDS virus, which was in the Congressional Record.

01:45:17.000 They wanted to create a virus with no known cure.

01:45:21.000 They introduced that into the gay population of San Francisco. 0.58

01:45:23.000 That was a beta-test for it.

01:45:26.000 So, there's no... We've heard...

01:45:28.000 We've heard Ted Turner come out and say that the best ideal situation for the planet is about a quarter of a billion in population.

01:45:37.000 Of course, Prince Philip has come out and said the same thing.

01:45:39.000 He wants to come back as a particularly deadly virus when he's reincarnated.

01:45:43.000 Let's just take, for example, let's just go ahead and be hypothetical here and say if these vaccines work, they're going to save us.

01:45:49.000 Then let's ask the question, why have there never been more than a quarter of a billion, conveniently enough, vaccines in the world at any time?

01:45:56.000 Because they can only save a quarter of a billion of us, Paul?

01:45:59.000 Well, that's probably the case.

01:46:01.000 What I don't buy is what they're counting on, which is when they release either this flu pandemic or this smallpox attack, that people won't completely freak out and head for the hills, because that's a natural human instinct, the survival instinct to do so.

01:46:17.000 And I believe a vast majority, more on which they're counting on, would refuse to follow the orders to go to the rest and relocation camps, would refuse a mandatory vaccine.

01:46:27.000 I think they've underestimated the reaction of people in the event of that happening.

01:46:35.000 Look what they did with the flu last year.

01:46:37.000 They said, hey, you've got to have that flu vaccine or you're going to die.

01:46:39.000 And you had old people standing in line, some of them dropping over like flies because they had to wait for four hours.

01:46:45.000 Others were taking planes, boats, any way they could get to Canada to get the flu vaccine because they thought they were going to die.

01:46:51.000 And then they said, oops, we miscalculated.

01:46:53.000 It's a different flu.

01:46:55.000 The rules of engagement, by the way, folks, and that's why we're talking about this and why this could be a strategic point for the New World Order to gain control.

01:47:02.000 The modus operandi, the orders of command, is to shoot on sight anybody that breaks the quarantine.

01:47:09.000 So, Paul, as you mentioned, those who are heading for the hills, I'm sure, will be labeled as extremists and white supremacists and insurgents, but you'll literally be shot on sight, folks, if you break this quarantine, if and when this happens.

01:47:20.000 Well, they've admitted that, and there was an article in the Scotsman with the headline, Dirty Bomb Victims Will Be Shot, whereby if you leave the quarantined area, you will be shot, whereas these terrorist drills in Boston and New Jersey, I think it was 99% of the role players in the exercise left the so-called contaminated area.

01:47:44.000 So that would have spread the disease, which is maybe their aim in the first place.

01:47:49.000 So that's interesting to see the details on that.

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01:53:42.000 Bill in Wisconsin, you're on the air with Paul Joseph Watson and Erskine.

01:53:45.000 Okay, thank you Jack Erskine and Paul Joseph Watson, whom I've heard many times, and Alex Jones, and I really appreciate a lot of what you have to say.

01:53:58.000 My comments concern Bill of Florida.

01:54:01.000 Okay, so this is Bill in Wisconsin talking to Bill of Florida.

01:54:07.000 Are we being double-billed?

01:54:09.000 I guess, yeah, I guess that's what you say.

01:54:12.000 Okay, and I want to tell Bill that I've been a Catholic my entire life, and perhaps he hasn't looked into the problems that have taken place within the Church since the Second Vatican Council.

01:54:29.000 In other words, Bill, I would tell you you've got, and there's plenty of what are called the traditional Catholic or Catholic websites that bring out information concerning the infiltration of our church by either, you know, Masons, Murano Jews, or also what Pius X, Pope Saint Pius X, called modernists. 0.55

01:54:56.000 And he wrote an encyclical on this.

01:55:00.000 Now, when you realize that we have been infiltrated, just like all the other governments of the world, and all of the other institutions and so forth, you have to understand that the people that they are parading in front of us are not arch-conservative, are not conservative, are not anti-communist.

01:55:24.000 They are doing the work primarily of this new world order.

01:55:29.000 It sounds to me, Bill, like you agree with Hutton Gibson on some of your opinions on the Catholic Church, and he's done a lot of research and can back up everything that he's saying.

01:55:38.000 You know, it's very disturbing, because when you get reports that, you know, all of this New World Order, cult of the eye, pyramid in the eye, Freemasonic symbolism within the Vatican and within the Pope's own apartment, I mean, it just walks like a duck and it talks like a duck.

01:55:52.000 We sometimes like to just look at it and point at it and say, hey, it's quacking, it's a duck.

01:55:57.000 Paul, you have published several stories on what's going on with the Vatican today.

01:56:01.000 Do you want to comment on, you know, for one, we were talking about Ratzinger being a Hitler Youth, and this is the guy that of course warned us about the Antichrist. 0.60

01:56:10.000 He's now leading in the Vegas odds to potentially be the next Pope.

01:56:13.000 How are we with this?

01:56:14.000 Well, the London Times article about this potential new Pope being part of the Hitler Youth is somewhat biased in the sense that it makes out that at every level he tried to get out of it, which is probably not actually true, and that he was witness to some of the Jews being taken to concentration cancer guard in some of the German facilities.

01:56:35.000 With the Pope that's just passed away, we had a balanced reaction as to whether he was, you know, pro or anti New World Order.

01:56:45.000 Certainly he was pro-EU.

01:56:46.000 He called for the EU constitution, backed it.

01:56:49.000 He actually called for a New World Order in, I believe it was 2003.

01:56:54.000 There is some contention as to whether he attended a Bilderberg meeting, I believe it was the Portuguese meeting in 1999.

01:57:05.000 Um, but on the flip side, his rhetoric on the pro-life issues has always been good.

01:57:10.000 You know, Pope condemns mercy killings of elderly.

01:57:13.000 Pope condemns unethical science cloning.

01:57:16.000 Let me say something about that, please.

01:57:19.000 You gotta wrap it up real quick, Bill.

01:57:20.000 We're going to another break here.

01:57:21.000 Well, you know...

01:57:23.000 Okay, he is doing so from the viewpoint of preserving human dignity.

01:57:28.000 It's from humanism.

01:57:30.000 It's not a Catholic viewpoint that we are... It's politically correct if you're a Catholic.

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01:58:46.000 And Jack, we're talking with Paul Joseph Watson.

01:58:49.000 We're talking with Bill from Wisconsin about what was going on within the Vatican.

01:58:55.000 And Bill, by the way, Erskine Overnight is heard on WTDY in Madison.

01:59:01.000 I believe it's starting at midnight.

01:59:03.000 WTDY is a huge station there out of Madison and thank you for carrying us and you can listen to that every Saturday night Saturday night into Sunday morning but what happened at the Vatican I just watched a video called Illuminati which is, by the way, the person who does the talking on the video is John Steed or Patrick McNee who was on the Avengers with Emma Peel.

01:59:28.000 Gee, I love that program.

01:59:29.000 But Cardinal Velo was the person who was the Illuminati hitman inside the Vatican who apparently took out Pope John Paul the first after 33 days when he found out what was going on so there's a lot of intrigue that was going on concerning the John Paul the first who was apparently a very good man who was trying to root out the Illuminati which had taken over the KGB and also was moving in on the

01:59:59.000 Vatican, so if you're looking at that, it's certainly very intriguing to see the tentacles of this old, old, old organization, the Illuminati.

02:00:09.000 Paul, are they still around?

02:00:11.000 I mean, is this show factual?

02:00:13.000 Is the Illuminati still in back of this?

02:00:16.000 Or, you know, because you hear all this and people say, well, you're a conspiracy nut, there's no Illuminati or anything like that.

02:00:23.000 What do you think, Paul?

02:00:26.000 Well, yeah, obviously it's still around and, you know, they're different tentacles of the spider's web.

02:00:31.000 It's the offshoot organizations of the original German Illuminati, like Skull & Bones and the Vatican. 0.63

02:00:39.000 We were talking about before the break, There is no doubt that the Vatican was involved in Operation Gladio, which was a CIA-run strategy of tension, they called it, to carry out terrorist bombings in European countries, France, Spain and Italy primarily.

02:01:00.000 To blame it on the then left-wing opposition so they could bolster the emergence of the right-wing governments in those countries.

02:01:08.000 And the actual documents which are on the National Security Archive website show that there were direct Vatican links to that operation which killed dozens and dozens of people.

02:01:20.000 Well, if you don't think this Illuminati is real, and you don't think that these people are worshipping the dark forces, you've got to look at the work that Alex Jones did with Bohemian Grove.

02:01:32.000 That shows you right there what's going on, doesn't it, Paul?

02:01:36.000 That's right.

02:01:38.000 Another case in point is Freemasonry.

02:01:42.000 Um, like Catholics. 0.96

02:01:43.000 I mean, obviously every Catholic is not evil and doesn't serve the New World Order.

02:01:47.000 It's the upper echelons.

02:01:49.000 You go and talk to anyone who's even known a Mason who got anywhere near the 33rd degree and they'll tell you that To get to the 33rd degree, you need to denounce Christ and embrace Satan, spit on the cross.

02:02:04.000 It's basically admitted.

02:02:06.000 My next door neighbor told me the same thing, that his brother was approached to be a 33rd degree Freemason and he was told that that's what he would have to do.

02:02:15.000 But 90% of the Masons or more are really good people! 1.00

02:02:19.000 Exactly, and that's why when you tell them about all this, they disbelieve you, because then it puts in doubt their life's work, basically, which is a big emotional, mental sacrifice to make, that they've applied their life to this cause, when at the top it's rotten to the core.

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02:05:56.000 You've got it right, Alex is the T-Rex of political talk, and more than that, he is exposing what's going on in America, no, in the world today.

02:06:06.000 Another person who's doing that is my friend and co-host today, sitting in for Alex Jones, this is Erskine, and my friend Jack Blood.

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02:07:09.000 Jack's got something he wants to say and then we'll be talking with Paul Joseph Watson.

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02:07:35.000 Jack, your turn.

02:07:37.000 My turn!

02:07:38.000 You guys are tough competition!

02:07:40.000 I know the listeners want to get in here too.

02:07:42.000 We want to make sure to get them in.

02:07:43.000 I just wanted to make a comment to what Erskine and Paul were talking about in the last segment related to the Illuminati.

02:07:49.000 And I find it's very interesting.

02:07:50.000 You know, Dan Brown, who is the author of the Da Vinci Code, is coming out with a new book based on the Illuminati now.

02:07:56.000 It's a work of fiction.

02:07:57.000 Which brings this into the public debate and gives the news organizations the ability to discount the Illuminati altogether.

02:08:05.000 Now Paul, you know how this works very well, these false flags where you put a book like the Da Vinci Code out or you put a book like the Illuminati out, now that Dan Brown is doing, and it's guilt by association because if we mention the Illuminati, we're going to be lumped into one of these Dan Brown readers and it completely discredits any argument that we can have before we can get started.

02:08:24.000 Well, that's right.

02:08:25.000 I mean, they did the same thing with the Skulls movie, what, back in 2000?

02:08:29.000 Which fictionalised skull and bones.

02:08:33.000 Many would say that the Lone Gunman pilot episode, which one of the actors in, Dean Hagland, said that NASA and intelligence agencies by towards the end of the X-Files and at the start of the Lone Gunman were feeding the producers the script and obviously the pilot episode of the Lone Gunman featured a script where a government group takes control of an airliner and wants to fly it into the World Trade Center to create a launch pad for a war.

02:09:00.000 Didn't you find it a little bit odd, though?

02:09:02.000 Look at all the promotion that the Da Vinci Code got.

02:09:04.000 I mean, I never turned on the TV without them talking about how great this book was, and I don't want to offend.

02:09:09.000 I'm sure there are people out there that have read the book and enjoyed it, and that's a different matter altogether, but isn't it odd that somebody like Dan Brown comes out, gets all of this publicity, sells millions and millions of copies of his books, whereas if Fritz Springmeier writes a book about bloodlines and the Illuminati, he gets locked in jail for bank robbery.

02:09:27.000 Well, I mean, that's exactly the case.

02:09:28.000 They would build someone up to that level whereby they would attain, you know, all this attention and then funnel that into fictionalizing what is the real subject going on in the world today, which is the Illuminati and what they're doing in the world.

02:09:42.000 So there's no doubt that that's a successful tactic and it's been used many times in the past.

02:09:47.000 It's used in television on a day-to-day basis.

02:09:50.000 The other thing I've seen that they've been doing, not to interrupt you Paul Joseph Watson, but they have a number of people out there who are talking about the Illuminati and write books about it and they put a lot of truth and then they'll do an overlay of that of reptilians or an overlay on that of Aliens which are something that's absolutely ridiculous and when they do that overlay, then the truth becomes part and parcel of that.

02:10:18.000 Don't you think that's another disinformation technique?

02:10:21.000 Well yeah, and the internet is at the forefront of that because it's flooded with so much noise that most people can't differentiate between what's a credible news source and what isn't.

02:10:32.000 Obviously we know the mainstream media lie and spin and only put the truth in the back of the newspaper, so then people turn to alternative media, but then you have a raft of websites and researchers which, either by intent or not, are deliberately putting out misinformation.

02:10:49.000 What the major front of that at the moment is that the peak oil scam when the scientists have just done the research in Mexico found that it's actually The evidence is pointing to the fact that it's a renewable energy source.

02:11:01.000 Oil itself is renewable.

02:11:04.000 And there are all sorts of different facets of this, the reptilian thing, as he mentioned, that discredit the hardcore of the information, which is astounding enough for anyone on first impact to believe in the first place.

02:11:17.000 So if you layer all this other stuff on top, then they get buried under it and they simply switch off.

02:11:22.000 So that is a tactic.

02:11:26.000 If it's okay with you, Jack, let's go to a couple of the callers.

02:11:28.000 Let's go to Richard in Florida.

02:11:30.000 Hey, Richard, my friend, thanks for hanging on and holding on.

02:11:33.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:11:34.000 This is Erskine, Jack Blood, and you've got Paul Joseph Watson.

02:11:38.000 So you've got three for one today.

02:11:40.000 It takes three of us to cover for Alex, so you have a question or comment?

02:11:45.000 Well, I do.

02:11:46.000 You know, the southern border is no longer or has not been secure for quite some time.

02:11:53.000 It's open as a sieve.

02:11:54.000 It's wide open.

02:11:55.000 Drugs, anything you'd name, coming across.

02:11:58.000 We've got an estimated 20 million illegals.

02:12:01.000 So why are we not?

02:12:04.000 It's part of the President's duty to secure our borders.

02:12:06.000 He's not doing that.

02:12:07.000 So let's start articles of impeachment.

02:12:12.000 That seems logical to me.

02:12:14.000 But that's the problem.

02:12:16.000 It's too logical.

02:12:17.000 Well, no, no, no.

02:12:17.000 I mean, all we need is, you know, to start that, file it, and And let him solve the problem or get out.

02:12:26.000 Well, it's not going to happen.

02:12:28.000 Not with the Republican, total Republican Congress, and then you have the Democrats.

02:12:33.000 Everybody's afraid of everything.

02:12:35.000 And so I regard one of the main duties is to protect the United States of America.

02:12:41.000 And if you're having the borders as open as you are, you are not protecting the United States of America.

02:12:47.000 That's exactly my point.

02:12:48.000 He's acting Contrary to the Constitution, contrary to our, as citizens of the United States, contrary to that, he's acting treasonously by not securing the border.

02:13:01.000 So remove him from office!

02:13:03.000 Well, taking away our constitutional rights, our 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights among many, I guess would also be treason, but I think a lot of people would make the argument, Paul, maybe you'll comment on this, that, you know, we're having a war now, we have a war president, in a sense, what we have are war powers, and that really affects the way we read the Constitution, unfortunately.

02:13:22.000 I don't think you'll get enough American people to go along with anything to do with impeachment.

02:13:26.000 I think they're going to lionize George W. Bush, much like they just did with Reagan as he died, and the Pope, and any other second-term president.

02:13:33.000 We shouldn't be in this war mode when we've got an open border down south. 0.84

02:13:36.000 It's ridiculous. 0.74

02:13:37.000 I agree. 0.75

02:13:38.000 Not only that, but we are sending border guards, people from our border patrol, to Iraq to secure their border.

02:13:49.000 Paul, any comments on that?

02:13:52.000 Meanwhile, we don't have anybody here protecting our border, but we send them to Iraq to protect their border. 1.00

02:13:58.000 And where in the Constitution does it say we have to bring democracy to Iraq?

02:14:02.000 I must have missed that.

02:14:03.000 You have to define... I'll comment on that, please, my friend.

02:14:08.000 Well, I mean on Iraq.

02:14:10.000 We featured two photos last week.

02:14:12.000 People will remember the Baghdad Square with the Saddam statue at the end of the so-called war.

02:14:19.000 Um, where there was a supposed mass rally of Iraqis helping bring down the statue.

02:14:23.000 In fact, if you look at the wider shot, the photo is a group about 50 Iraqis.

02:14:27.000 And then in the protest last week, you look again at the same square and there are 100,000 Iraqis protesting for the occupational government to be kicked out.

02:14:39.000 The borders aren't secure because if you have secure borders you can't introduce the FTAA, you can't harmonize all the South American, North American countries into one power block of the global government.

02:14:53.000 And Bush and Condoleezza Rice have come out publicly denounced the Minutemen in front of world leaders for their efforts to secure the border.

02:15:03.000 Basically, you can't beat them by playing by their rules.

02:15:06.000 If there were impeachment proceedings, they just wouldn't get off the ground.

02:15:09.000 What you can do... Charge them with treason and bring it in the county, let it start with the county, and then go to the state, and then carry on.

02:15:17.000 I mean, it's got to start... Copy brought at the federal level, though, I don't think you can do anything... It can start anywhere!

02:15:21.000 Come on now! 0.99

02:15:22.000 Come on now! 0.99

02:15:23.000 It can start in the county, and then go to the state, and then go to the federal.

02:15:27.000 Get someone that says, hey, you know what?

02:15:29.000 I think Bush has acted treasonously.

02:15:30.000 I'm willing to sign a complaint to that effect.

02:15:33.000 take it to the county attorney, get a jury, and that's it.

02:15:38.000 Well, that is, in a sense, that's a roundabout way.

02:15:41.000 In a sense, that's what the Minutemen are doing via this grassroots activism.

02:15:45.000 They're shining the light on Bush, which is showing his hypocrisy, and he's losing a lot of his standard.

02:15:52.000 Richard, thanks a lot for the call.

02:15:55.000 Bush is going to have to turn into a conservative real quick now, thanks to these Minutemen on this border issue. 0.98

02:16:00.000 But, of course, the solution will, as Paul says, be to merge the borders in the free trade era of the Americas.

02:16:05.000 That's what they're ultimately looking for.

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02:16:18.000 Let's go to Craig in Washington State.

02:16:20.000 Hey, Craig, how's it going?

02:16:21.000 Oh, it's going pretty good.

02:16:23.000 First, I want to compliment all you people involved there at GCN and those listening.

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02:16:32.000 I have some real important news.

02:16:33.000 The computers went down a couple times this morning while I was listening, but I haven't heard anybody talking about it.

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02:16:55.000 Now what's happening later today is David Ray Griffin Griffin, author of the 9-11 Truth Blockbusters, The New Pearl Harbor, and the 9-11 Commission Report, Emissions and Distortions, will be making a rare public appearance at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in Blasphem Hall today at 7.30.

02:17:12.000 His brand new talk, entitled 9-11 and the American Empire, How Should Religious People Respond, will focus... So what day is he going to be talking up in Madison?

02:17:21.000 Please hold me over, I'd like to finish... Yeah, that's going to air on C-SPAN in a week or two as well.

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02:21:57.000 This is Erskine City in with Jack Blood for...

02:22:01.000 Mr. Alex Jones, along with Paul Joseph Watson, and what they're doing is they want to harmonize trade between all of the nations, which means that you're losing sovereignty, and one of the other things that they're bringing in, and it's all for corporations, they're bringing in the frankenfoods, otherwise known as genetically modified foods, and so this weekend on Erskine Overnight, which is nine o'clock, John, for you on the West Coast,

02:22:31.000 9 p.m.

02:22:31.000 on the East Coast.

02:22:32.000 It's midnight, Saturday night.

02:22:34.000 We're going to have a gentleman talking about seeds of deception, the genetically modified foods.

02:22:41.000 That's Jeffrey Smith.

02:22:42.000 Now, Sean, go ahead with what you were saying.

02:22:45.000 Or rather, Craig, I'm sorry.

02:22:47.000 Yes, thank you.

02:22:47.000 I just think this is an extremely significant event.

02:22:51.000 It's uniting the Christians, Arabs, and the Jews all together to come up with the truth.

02:22:58.000 What I'm encouraging people to do is to go to BookTV.org and contact them and first thank them for their courage.

02:23:06.000 Maybe ask them if they could show the speech in its entirety.

02:23:10.000 See, I have two different descriptions of what's going to be shown on BookTV and what I was alerted to.

02:23:16.000 One on BookTV says it's the New Pearl Harbor disturbing questions and the Bush administration and 9-11.

02:23:22.000 But what I get from my other source is that it's about How Christians should face the truth of 9-11.

02:23:30.000 It's 9-11 and the American Empire. 0.77

02:23:31.000 How should religious people respond?

02:23:33.000 And this is significant, too.

02:23:35.000 So, hopefully that's where Alex went.

02:23:36.000 Well, David Ray Griffin will get his points in.

02:23:39.000 I'm very... I really believe that he'll do a great job on that.

02:23:43.000 The speech you mentioned tomorrow, Craig, will be aired, to my knowledge, on C-SPAN in, like, two weeks.

02:23:49.000 And, of course, we'll record that and offer it on our website, JackBlood.com.

02:23:53.000 There's a speech tonight at April 18th at 730 in Wisconsin.

02:23:58.000 And that's the one I'm talking about.

02:23:59.000 9-11 and the American Empire.

02:24:01.000 How should religious people respond?

02:24:03.000 And what they say on C-SPAN is different.

02:24:05.000 It's more about the book.

02:24:06.000 So hopefully they will get that speech.

02:24:08.000 And what I'm saying is people should write into Book TV and ask them to include the speech in its entirety.

02:24:14.000 Because he's probably going to say things that they don't want to get out.

02:24:17.000 Sounds good to me, Craig.

02:24:18.000 We'll do that, Craig.

02:24:20.000 And if you really want to know, just please visit the site M-U-J-C-A dot com. 0.68

02:24:27.000 Mujca.com certainly will.

02:24:30.000 Thanks Craig and thanks for the heads up on that.

02:24:33.000 Your book, Paul Joseph Watson, you really go into details about 9-11.

02:24:37.000 You go into details that I never knew that are just now starting to come out.

02:24:42.000 Details like the fact that Osama Bin Laden was in an American hospital in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, in July, treated by an American physician, seen by an American CIA station chief, just in July before September 9-11.

02:25:04.000 I mean, this is incredible information, and you've got it documented from the major news sources around the world.

02:25:11.000 It isn't something that's coming from some blog.

02:25:14.000 This is from major news sources.

02:25:16.000 It's incredible information.

02:25:17.000 When you come across this type of information, Paul, and you're looking at it, and you're looking at the news, what do you do?

02:25:24.000 Just shake your head?

02:25:25.000 I mean, you've got to, don't you?

02:25:27.000 Well, sometimes you have to.

02:25:30.000 If you're faced with that level of evil on a day-to-day basis and it's just staring you in the face then there is a danger that you can become conditioned to it and kind of bypass many things which you should focus on which are important.

02:25:43.000 But, as you mentioned about my book, what a lot of people liked about it is that at the end of every page, and for every chapter, there are about 30 sources which are listed with the exact URL internet address where people can go and check the article.

02:25:59.000 So it's thoroughly documented, which is what a lot of people like about it because some of the other, what you would call, you know, conspiracy books are not that way.

02:26:08.000 And you use major sources, you use the New York Times, you use UPI, you use major news services, Reuters, you use all of the major news sources themselves have this information, but they bury it so deep they don't want you to see it!

02:26:26.000 Well, that's the point.

02:26:27.000 Most people wouldn't come across it, but if you do what I do on a daily basis, which is scan the news wires, scan the newspapers, as I do to create the websites, then this is how you come across the material.

02:26:39.000 It's the old back of the paper thing.

02:26:41.000 They report it.

02:26:43.000 You know, Peter Jennings is just not going to talk about it on the evening news.

02:26:47.000 Yeah, yet the funny thing is, Paul, and you're right, that's the one thing I would say about this book that is just fantastic.

02:26:52.000 Every page has its sources on it.

02:26:54.000 But the funny thing is, when I interview Bill Gertz or somebody from the Washington Times or Rowan Scarborough, they'll deny the very articles that you source that they printed.

02:27:04.000 Well, yeah, it goes down the memory hole.

02:27:06.000 Yeah.

02:27:07.000 They do that on many occasions.

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02:32:04.000 Mike, thanks for hanging on.

02:32:05.000 This is Erskine, and do you have a question or comment for myself, for Jack, or for Paul Joseph Watson?

02:32:12.000 Well, pretty much I just have a comment.

02:32:14.000 You guys were earlier talking about the biometric passports, and I just want to throw my two cents in there.

02:32:23.000 Well of course before the 9-11 I did a little bit traveling aboard or abroad and then I wasn't going to do no more but I had a son and he's got a metabolic disorder that's pretty rare and they don't have any treatment here in the United States.

02:32:39.000 The only place that they have it is a doctor in Spain broke through this barrier back in 92.

02:32:44.000 To make a long story short my two children do not have passports or excuse me social security numbers There was an issue with passports there, which we're still dealing with.

02:32:57.000 But what it comes down to is, you know, I believe in the good man upstairs.

02:33:02.000 I don't believe in taking Mark of the Beast and if this biometric stuff does happen, which from what I understand is happening, there's definitely going to be an issue there because if I can't get my son over there to get his medication, if you use that word, he basically will just sit there and rot and die on the floor in my opinion.

02:33:21.000 Well, you know, it's an issue with a lot of people, especially a lot of Christians.

02:33:26.000 They make all sorts of provisions for anybody else of any other religion, but if you happen to be a Christian, you know, you either accept it or you're out of luck. 0.95

02:33:36.000 Christians are certainly a discriminated people in America today, I would say.

02:33:43.000 Oh, I totally agree, and what sucks is I've tried to get the media involved in here to let people know that, you know, there was a doctor here that tried to do this disorder and basically killed a few of his patients. 0.92

02:33:57.000 He's got an ego problem in my opinion.

02:34:00.000 That's why we have to go to Spain.

02:34:02.000 And we've had our medicine taken, you know, here at Customs.

02:34:07.000 That was a long story.

02:34:08.000 We did get it.

02:34:09.000 But, you know, it's just my whole point is people look at these passports as going on vacation.

02:34:14.000 With our situation, it's not a vacation, it's a matter of life and death and functioning of my son.

02:34:21.000 You know, 25% of the drugs brought into the America from Canada are confiscated?

02:34:28.000 Yeah, and what bothers me though, Erskine, is, you know, look, a lot of us can say we won't go along with this and we'll suffer the consequences or the inconveniences or we'll live without or we'll make the sacrifices.

02:34:40.000 This caller here has no other choice.

02:34:42.000 He seems to have to go along with this system in order to take care and care for his son.

02:34:48.000 Paul, I have to tell you, if Marcus Wolff was here, former head of the German Stasi working with our government, he'd be quite proud of the biometric internal passports and us snitching He is working with our government.

02:35:02.000 He is working.

02:35:03.000 He's part of Homeland Security.

02:35:05.000 I talked to a friend of mine from Germany, and I said, Marcus Wolff is part of Homeland Security, and he said, the man is a war criminal.

02:35:12.000 I said, absolutely, absolutely.

02:35:14.000 Go ahead, Paul.

02:35:16.000 Well, that's the thing, the essential day-to-day things which people need to do, and things like this caller, you know, to save the life of his own son, those are the things that they will crack down on, because that's the only way they'll get a lot of people to go under the system.

02:35:30.000 It's a shame, but unfortunately not a surprise, that many people will willingly accept the surveillance state, because they've been conditioned for years that the convenience element, things like the cell phone, the supermarket loyalty card, The GPS satellite navigation system, the OnStar system, override the mammoth applications that both government and monopoly corporations have planned for this and are already implementing.

02:35:56.000 Now wait a minute, wait a minute Paul, if we have to take like this biometric to keep us safe from these terrorists, isn't it worth doing to give up a little bit to keep us safe from these terrorists?

02:36:08.000 Won't this help us?

02:36:10.000 Well, in that framed paradigm, yes, a lot of people believe it will, but they'll also go along with it more so due to the convenience factors of this biometric technology, whereby they don't have to carry cash around, whereby that creates the cashless society.

02:36:27.000 They do the same thing with the Socialist Program in Welfare, where it looks like a freebie, it's the dole, and then go ahead and get your hand out of your paycheck, and then pretty soon, of course, you've got to take sub-dermal microchips, you've got to give them your social security number, you've got to register your children the day they're born, so they suck you into the system, get you on the teeth of the government, excuse the expression, and then they start locking in on you.

02:36:47.000 Erskine, we've got a lot of calls here, man, we've got to get rolling.

02:36:50.000 Let's go, thank you very much for the call.

02:36:53.000 Let's go to John in Ohio.

02:36:58.000 Yes, hello.

02:36:59.000 I really appreciate what you're doing, exposing the CIA military industrial complicity in 9-11 attacks and the police state measures that are all based on this phony, pretended pretext of fighting terrorism, but I do have some serious disagreements.

02:37:14.000 I consider myself on the unaffiliated left.

02:37:17.000 I would, I guess, agree with WorkersOrg and WSWS.org as a composite of my beliefs.

02:37:25.000 They are leftist And I see a real Achilles heel of some modest conservatives like you.

02:37:34.000 I think, as Paul mentioned, the Operation Gladio that was set up by the CIA and was colluded with by the Pope to frame up leftists in Europe to justify reactionary policies and overthrow of Andreotti in Italy.

02:37:51.000 of the uh... the operation northwoods are uh... framed up cuba like i i think this is not so the mentioned you know this wasn't some anonymous uh... enemies of the globalist this was the specific enemy of the globalist cuba because it was uh... uh... taking a line that was opposed to these these fascists the antarctic now we're now we're after chavez in venezuela right and and and and the uh... but i i do believe the uh...

02:38:17.000 The anti-communism of these neocons that are now in the present Bush administration is going to be reactivated.

02:38:23.000 They were in the Reagan-Bush administration using the anti-communist pretext to kill hundreds of thousands of people through their despot regimes in Central America.

02:38:33.000 And I think we have to realize that if we're going to trade a war that is horrible and murderous, over 125,000 people killed just since the invasion in Iraq, Trade that for a war based on anti-communism against North Korea or China, which is going to be genocidal, which will kill millions of people.

02:38:54.000 I don't think we're getting anywhere, so I don't counterpose the idea that we're being lied to about Iran, Syria, and Iraq, and then say that why aren't we buying into the neocons of phase two part of their project for a new American century in which they state their ultimate target is Let's get Paul to comment on that.

02:39:17.000 Paul, earlier we were talking about Iran and the possible pretext to get us into Iran, and we were talking about will the American people go along with this.

02:39:24.000 I was immediately thinking, will the anti-war people, or the ABB, be able, as anybody but Bush, be able to stave this off?

02:39:31.000 Because they haven't been able to stave anything else off.

02:39:33.000 Well, no, they won't, because they're completely neutralized.

02:39:36.000 I mean, the MoveOn.org left-wing group is now calling for U.S.

02:39:41.000 forces to stay in Iraq.

02:39:44.000 John Kerry and people like that were on a lot of these so-called left-wing establishment boards, you know, pushing for the Iraq War before it happened.

02:39:54.000 I don't look at us as being left or right.

02:39:56.000 I think we're all American.

02:39:57.000 But any other real quick comment, because I need to move on, John?

02:40:01.000 Yes, I just have to say that whether it's based on an anti-terrorist pretext, these neocons, or are going to revive their anti-communist pretext, I hope some honest conservatives will not join them.

02:40:14.000 At the point where they use that tack and that label to justify these unjustified wars, because they will be even more genocidal if we buy all their propaganda about them.

02:40:23.000 I think a lot of honest conservatives distance ourselves as far as we can from that, and even though we're on opposite sides of the spectrum, we're both Americans and we both are seeing what's going on.

02:40:35.000 Neither one of us are fascists.

02:40:36.000 Johnson, let's go to Rand in Texas.

02:40:38.000 Thank you for the call.

02:40:39.000 Rand in Texas, welcome to the Alex Jones Radio Program.

02:40:44.000 Very much.

02:40:44.000 I really appreciate all you guys and what you're doing out here.

02:40:47.000 I listen to you as much as I can.

02:40:49.000 I'm beginning to wonder if our president...

02:40:51.000 Has ever had an original thought in his life. 0.99

02:40:54.000 I can't even look at him on television and he comes off like some spoiled, arrogant punk. 0.98

02:41:00.000 You know, with shifty, reptilian eye movement. 0.97

02:41:03.000 And, you know, I'm not a reader.

02:41:05.000 I think he couldn't think his way out of a paper bag.

02:41:07.000 It's unbelievable he's President of the United States.

02:41:10.000 But don't look at his eyes!

02:41:11.000 Don't look at his eyes!

02:41:12.000 I don't!

02:41:13.000 Right, Jack?

02:41:14.000 You can't look at his eyes?

02:41:16.000 He's hard to listen to.

02:41:17.000 Yo, fool me once.

02:41:19.000 Fool me.

02:41:21.000 You know, surrounds himself with all of his daddy's CIA hacks from Kissinger to Poindexter.

02:41:25.000 You know, I'm surprised Ollie North isn't Secretary of State.

02:41:29.000 You know, it's like Keystone Cops with a license to kill.

02:41:32.000 You know?

02:41:33.000 And the way they suddenly and arrogantly blame lower CIA guys now for the dismal intelligence failures.

02:41:39.000 I mean, they're unbelievable! 0.58

02:41:41.000 Can you imagine what a chump Colin Powell must feel like right now? 1.00

02:41:45.000 They set him up in front of the U.N. 0.89

02:41:46.000 with a little vial of white powder.

02:41:48.000 He managed to pull those vials of white powder and everybody was like, oh my God, don't drop that thing in here!

02:41:54.000 Paul Joseph Watson, didn't Colin Powell make a statement in Europe that we were being taken over by a cult and a bunch of crazies over here?

02:42:01.000 Yeah, and he was vehement in his distaste for the fact that they did set him up to go in front of the UN.

02:42:08.000 But the point that the call is making is that Bush struts around like the sheriff because, in a sense, he's living in the Truman Show.

02:42:15.000 We've been told that he doesn't read newspapers.

02:42:18.000 You know, he attends these town hall events where the questions are scripted.

02:42:22.000 All the White House press conferences are scripted.

02:42:25.000 When he goes abroad there are quarantine zones, and also in America where protesters are kept away.

02:42:31.000 So, if you're President Bush, then you really think that, you know, 99% of the country and the world is behind you, because he's so protected from any of the reality that... But when he's on his own, Paul, when he's on his own, he's quite dangerous, because he said, debt numbers, you know, that were previously quoted billions, are now quoted in trillions, and President said, oh, it's just a function of adding more zeros.

02:42:54.000 This guy, when he's on his own, shows through, and you've really got to say, my goodness, I just can't understand this man.

02:43:03.000 He's the only person I've seen who makes Dan Quayle look like an absolute Mensa member.

02:43:07.000 I thought it was pretty startling when I interviewed Chris Matthews at Brown University, and he came right out and said, I'm an eyewitness that Dick Cheney is running that White House.

02:43:16.000 And there's a big establishment type, and of course I'm not going to say that on a TV show, but that's what he says when he goes out and does some public speaking.

02:43:22.000 They throw billions of dollars around like they're nickels in the bewildered herd of America, just, you know, lying up in front of their televisions with their thumbs in their mouths, just peripherally listening to what's going on. 0.87

02:43:34.000 I think they're either dumb, we've been dumbed down, or we're in denial, or we're evil, one of the three, because I just cannot believe that the American people are footing this genocide with their taxpayers' money. 0.99

02:43:45.000 You know, it's just disgusting. 1.00

02:43:48.000 Let me ask Paul.

02:43:49.000 What has happened, Paul Joseph Watson?

02:43:52.000 Are we dumbed down? 0.95

02:43:53.000 Are we evil?

02:43:54.000 Thank you for the call very much, Ram.

02:43:56.000 Have we been dumbed down?

02:43:57.000 Are we evil? 0.99

02:43:58.000 What's happened?

02:43:59.000 How have they done this with the American public now?

02:44:01.000 I know other people say that from a media standpoint, with very few exceptions, GCM being one, Alex Jones program certainly being one exception, We are in a cocoon of no news.

02:44:14.000 How are they doing this so effectively, Paul?

02:44:17.000 Primarily because the entertainment genres, the distractions, have now got so sophisticated and people are presented with so many supposed choices that the distraction from what's really going on in the country is so incessant that it hoodwinks a lot of people into never looking at the reality of what's going on in their own country, what's going on around them.

02:44:40.000 Most people are so put off between that phony fight, that WWF between left and right, which we witnessed firsthand up in Boston, that they don't want any part of it, that they don't want to trust any pundits out there or any reporters.

02:44:51.000 And of course there's the situation where people are trying to support their lifestyle with their 2.3 cars and 2.3 kids, the nuclear family, working three or four jobs to make that happen.

02:45:00.000 They don't have a lot of time to do the homework and do the assessing of the situation.

02:45:04.000 That's why we're here, of course.

02:45:06.000 Let's go to Sheldon in Arizona.

02:45:07.000 How about it?

02:45:08.000 Sheldon in Arizona.

02:45:09.000 Erskine, Paul Joseph Watson.

02:45:09.000 You're on the air.

02:45:11.000 Hi guys.

02:45:12.000 I just wanted to ask Erskine, when is he going to bring Anthony J. Hilder back on as a guest?

02:45:18.000 You know, I don't know.

02:45:19.000 I probably will have Anthony on fairly soon.

02:45:22.000 I have him on next week on Deadline Live, so that's one way to hear him.

02:45:28.000 Okay guys, that's all I want to know.

02:45:29.000 Thanks.

02:45:30.000 You got it.

02:45:30.000 Thanks.

02:45:31.000 Thanks for listening to my program on KFN there in Phoenix.

02:45:35.000 We're happy to have been on there for the last six or seven years.

02:45:39.000 Let's go to Brad in Illinois.

02:45:40.000 Brad, you're on the Alex Jones Radio program with Jack Blood and Paul Joseph Watson.

02:45:46.000 Well, I think we are being dumb-dunked when you've got people that listen to shows like yours for a long time that call up and still are confused about the fact that they say George Bush is their president.

02:46:00.000 And when they talk about taxpayers' money, when there is no money to be found anywhere, they're not getting the message that's being put out by these shows itself. 0.72

02:46:11.000 That's not the reason why I called.

02:46:12.000 I did call to ask you guys a question, since I got the three big guns right all along.

02:46:17.000 If George W. Bush's regime controlled the attack in 9-11 It was all about weapons of mass destruction, and they control the news media like we know, and they control the military, they control all of this. 0.55

02:46:33.000 Why wasn't weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq?

02:46:38.000 Well, I can say this.

02:46:41.000 They started out, they said, of course there are weapons of mass destruction, we've got the receipts for them.

02:46:46.000 But why weren't they found, Paul?

02:46:48.000 I think part of the reason is a lot of them have expired and I think he got rid of a lot of them.

02:46:53.000 Paul's the expert on this.

02:46:55.000 Paul?

02:46:56.000 Well, yeah, it's because they wanted to keep the troops in the country for that extra amount of time so as to then create the quagmire to keep them in for even longer.

02:47:05.000 And if they had found the weapons, then everybody would have rightly said, well, who sold them to Saddam in the first place? 0.88

02:47:12.000 Maybe the question is though, why did Bush and the Bush administration paint themselves into this impossible corner when they knew that the conclusion would be no WMDs?

02:47:20.000 Is that again, good cop, bad cop, to make Americans look bad?

02:47:23.000 A preemptive strike with no valuable information?

02:47:26.000 That's right then.

02:47:27.000 So the UN can come in and be the savior, which still could happen later on down the line.

02:47:31.000 Then give the US an out option to go into Iran with the required amount of troops.

02:47:36.000 So that's still on the storyboard.

02:47:38.000 It's still a possibility.

02:47:40.000 Yeah, I think Brad, and there were a few options from the last caller, Sheldon in Arizona.

02:47:45.000 I'm going to vote for denial.

02:47:46.000 I just think people are in flat denial of what's going on around them, again, thanks to the distractions.

02:47:52.000 Well, they certainly are.

02:47:53.000 And incidentally, last comment, I thought the Holy Blood, Holy Grail was a much better book than the Da Vinci Code.

02:47:59.000 Well, I like bloodlines of the Illuminati myself.

02:48:02.000 I mean, look, we're going to be pretty ignorant here if we don't understand that these elites have coveted their DNA, their bloodlines, all these years.

02:48:11.000 Now, to supplant the hypothetical situation that Dan Brown brings up, that it's all the line of Jesus, of course, Really takes us into the realm of almost impossibility.

02:48:23.000 But again, I mean, look at these guys are all cousins.

02:48:25.000 Nixon's cousins with Bush.

02:48:26.000 Bush's cousins with Kerry.

02:48:28.000 I think you guys would all agree with that.

02:48:29.000 Take a quick break.

02:48:30.000 We'll come right back.

02:48:31.000 Big finish on the Alex Jones Show.

02:48:33.000 Erskine and Paul Joseph Watson.

02:48:34.000 and stay tuned.

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02:51:49.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network. - It's Erskine with Jack Blood and Paul Joseph Watson sitting in for Alex Jones.

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02:52:08.000 After the fake news, you can hear the real news.

02:52:11.000 And you can go to prisonplanet.com, infowars.com, get yourself a copy of Martial Law, Rise of the Police State.

02:52:19.000 Martial Law, Rise of the Police State by going to prisonplanet.com, infowars.com.

02:52:26.000 Or call 888-253-3139.

02:52:32.000 2-5-3-3-1-3-9.

02:52:34.000 That way you can get a copy of Martial Law Rise of the Police State.

02:52:39.000 And go to PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com.

02:52:42.000 He also has available t-shirts for men and women.

02:52:45.000 So you can stand up and at least start a little controversy.

02:52:48.000 Stand for something.

02:52:50.000 Wear the t-shirt.

02:52:51.000 Get yourself a men's or women's t-shirt, wear it, and it's a media conversation starter, and you can inform more people.

02:53:01.000 They may be dumbed down, but we aren't believing it, because the listenership on GCN is going up right through the roof.

02:53:09.000 Jack, you've got your program coming up in just a little bit, and we've also got Paul Joseph Watson with us, who wrote Order Out of Chaos, THE book, On what's happening today, in my opinion.

02:53:21.000 It was the best book I read last year, and I read a lot of good books.

02:53:25.000 I've read a lot of good conspiracy books, but this book is incredible.

02:53:30.000 Paul, I'm waiting for part two to that.

02:53:32.000 When's your next book come out?

02:53:35.000 Well, I think the plan is to start working on one a little later this year, so it'll probably be early next year sometime.

02:53:42.000 It's just amazing how fast this news cycle moves and events around us move that, you know, you can put a great book like this together but literally a year later you can write another book with all the new information.

02:53:53.000 Let me ask Paul a real quick question.

02:53:55.000 How is Mr. Blair doing in England?

02:53:58.000 Is he going to win, lose, or what's happening?

02:54:01.000 Well, we've got a choice between a party which is pro-war, pro-national ID card, pro-police state, and a party which is pro-war, pro-national ID card, and pro-police state.

02:54:12.000 The opposition, Michael Howard, descends directly from Transylvania, so that gives you an idea of the kind of choice we have.

02:54:19.000 And yes, Blair will win again, he will get a third term, and they will then introduce the National ID Card as the first piece of legislation in Britain.

02:54:28.000 What about the anti-EU movement that's taking place in Britain with people like Trevor Coleman?

02:54:34.000 How is that doing?

02:54:35.000 Is it gaining ground?

02:54:36.000 It's gaining a lot of ground.

02:54:38.000 I think they had about a 14% share of the last local election, which is a lot in a two-party state, so it's gaining a lot of credibility.

02:54:48.000 People still try to attack it for racism, xenophobia, the old tired, worn arguments, but it's gaining ground.

02:54:53.000 It's gaining credibility.

02:54:55.000 I just wanted to reference Mugabe from Zimbabwe, talking about how Blair is a brand of toilets there in Africa.

02:55:05.000 Well, I mean the word Al-Qaeda means toilet in Arabic.

02:55:08.000 So we have a running theme!

02:55:09.000 Yeah!

02:55:11.000 Alright, well hey, you know, this has been really fun you guys.

02:55:14.000 I have to say I'm really honored to be on the same program with Alex, well Alex Jones program with Erskine and Paul Joseph Watson.

02:55:20.000 The time is really flowing by.

02:55:23.000 Absolutely.

02:55:24.000 I have enjoyed it immensely.

02:55:25.000 It's always good to be on with Paul Joseph Watson and this first time we've done a program together, Jack.

02:55:31.000 It is an absolute pleasure.

02:55:33.000 And coming up on your program tonight, you're going to talk about this afternoon, you're going to be talking about what's going on with the toll roads.

02:55:40.000 They just keep coming at us, coming at us, coming at us, don't they?

02:55:44.000 That's right.

02:55:44.000 We're going to be talking extensively about Oklahoma City.

02:55:46.000 We're going to be promoting this big event in Austin to fight these toll roads.

02:55:50.000 We've got everybody coming together, not nitpicking on social issues, but fighting against the New World Order.

02:55:55.000 And that's what we all need to do.

02:55:56.000 Get out there, folks.

02:55:58.000 Fight against the New World Order.

02:55:59.000 Go to Infowars.com.

02:56:00.000 Go to PrisonPlanet.com.

02:56:02.000 JackBlood.com.

02:56:03.000 We'll see you in a few minutes after the fake news.

02:56:04.000 Gentlemen, it's been an honor.

02:56:05.000 Thank you very much.

02:56:06.000 Thanks, guys.

02:56:07.000 This weekend on Erskine Overnight, Seeds of Deception, midnight Eastern, nine o'clock Pacific.

02:56:13.000 Thank you, Jack.

02:56:14.000 Thank you, Paul Joseph Watson.

Alex Jones Show - April 18, 2005

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