Alex Jones Show - 20050516_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:23.000 Another supermassive broadcast for you today.

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00:00:39.000 It is Monday, the 16th day of May 2005.

00:00:45.000 We'll be live for the next 2 hours and 59 minutes 10 seconds.

00:00:49.000 Coming up, Michael Rivero from one of the biggest websites on the web.

00:00:55.000 WhatReallyHappened.com will be joining us to talk about the latest 9-11 revelations as well as what's really happening in Iraq with his forecast on what we'll see there in the next year.

00:01:07.000 In the third hour, we talked to him before he left town to Germany for the Bilderberg Group meeting a month ago.

00:01:12.000 We're going to have him back on.

00:01:14.000 He just got back last week from the Bilderberg Group meeting and I'm going to have a chance to play that CNN Europe clip where they go, oh yeah, the Bilderberg Group wants world government, but that's good.

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00:01:49.000 Superpower behind Burma Blast. 0.92

00:01:53.000 The Burmese government is coming right out and saying, yeah, U.S. government.

00:01:57.000 government.

00:01:58.000 We've got our informants.

00:01:59.000 We've analyzed the explosives.

00:02:00.000 We know who's funding them.

00:02:01.000 These terror attacks that are killing dozens each time.

00:02:05.000 This is your government.

00:02:07.000 No, it wouldn't be the government. 0.60

00:02:10.000 Former advisor and thief, Sandy Berger, expects another domestic terrorist attack.

00:02:16.000 Why, he's surprised it hasn't happened yet.

00:02:19.000 And of course you've seen the slaughter throughout the weekend starting Friday in Uzbekistan.

00:02:23.000 A couple thousand people wanted to protest.

00:02:25.000 A country where the leader actually boils people in oil for fun.

00:02:30.000 Where our government ships people for torture.

00:02:33.000 Nice AP photos of checkpoints and people being searched at roadside checks.

00:02:37.000 Like America, you know, it's freedom.

00:02:39.000 Except the border's wide open.

00:02:41.000 And Bush is like, well, it's bad what's happening, but they have to do it.

00:02:44.000 And they have their own little Tiananmen Square, and they've killed 500 people.

00:02:48.000 Well, that's his biggest stand.

00:02:49.000 Of course, Putin supports his biggest stand, too.

00:02:51.000 Because Putin's a man Bush can trust, a man with a soul he's been able to look at.

00:02:56.000 Build a seized homes that contain illegal guns.

00:02:59.000 That means you've got a magazine that's got too many rounds, or you didn't register that gun properly, and well, you're just going to lose your house and your car.

00:03:11.000 Asset forfeiture seizure.

00:03:12.000 It won't just be drugs now, it'll be guns.

00:03:17.000 All part of the new freedom.

00:03:20.000 And this is nothing but prize money, or booting, or spoils.

00:03:25.000 The Romans did it, the British Navy did it, and it really gets your devil dogs going to get out there and grab all the goods and we'll be covering it. 0.99

00:03:35.000 Nicotine vaccine is set to snub out smoking, but it changes your body's autoimmune response to where your body basically attacks the nicotine.

00:03:46.000 Very dangerous.

00:03:47.000 They've got other vaccines that actually clog up your receptors themselves.

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00:03:53.000 Very scary article out of the Times of London.

00:03:56.000 Uh, Vicente Fox, of course, came out, uh, Friday and said, Hey! 0.98

00:04:02.000 Mexicans take jobs that blacks don't even want, which is very racist. 0.97

00:04:06.000 And now he's having to apologize and it's backfired on him. 0.99

00:04:10.000 Uh, that's not true either, Fox.

00:04:12.000 What happens is the illegal aliens, whether it be from India or Mexico, predominantly Mexico, drive wages down so low that people that have insurance or pay taxes cannot live within the normal system, and it's driving down the wages. 0.99

00:04:25.000 So, everybody wants these jobs.

00:04:27.000 Hispanic Americans, black Americans, white Americans, whatever Americans.

00:04:31.000 Uh, we're not living ten to an apartment ten to a house.

00:04:35.000 And, uh, it's simple.

00:04:38.000 It's real simple. 0.96

00:04:40.000 But, uh, there's a lot of racists in Mexico against blacks, and this just comes through here. 0.99

00:04:47.000 We're taking jobs not even blacks want. 1.00

00:04:51.000 Folks, there's so much more. 0.97

00:04:53.000 Hey, Dick Cheney in 08.

00:04:54.000 I'm sure you've heard the news.

00:04:56.000 There's massive desertion problems in the military.

00:04:59.000 It's all coming up.

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00:08:15.000 Alright, second segment, 8 minutes, 15 seconds in.

00:08:19.000 Michael Rivero from WhatReallyHappened.com will be joining us to talk about the latest revelations concerning 9-11 and the Iraq War, the torture, you name it.

00:08:27.000 Third hour, Jim Tucker, fresh back.

00:08:30.000 from Germany in the Bilderberg Group meeting will be joining us with those revelations in the third hour wide open at phones today.

00:08:39.000 On the first little five minute segment I went over just a small sampling of some of the news we'll be covering.

00:08:44.000 Masses of troops going AWOL.

00:08:46.000 The four branches of the service aren't in some cases getting half of what they need and even lowered targeted numbers for recruitment for the military the so-called All volunteer force.

00:09:02.000 We have all these new bizarre vaccines coming out that actually change brain chemistry.

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00:09:11.000 There is just masses of important news today.

00:09:14.000 I want to get into the racist comments of Vicente Fox El Jefe.

00:09:21.000 I want to cover it all, but first thing I want to plunge into Is Newsweek report on Koran matches many earlier accounts?

00:09:33.000 And that's the headline from The Raw Story.

00:09:37.000 The issue of Newsweek that just came out, or that they're setting to report, but they've already released a teaser last week, said that they put Korans in the toilet at Camp X-Ray to terrorize, to terrorize Uh, the members of those two camps, because there's two camps.

00:09:58.000 There's the general camp and then a CIA-based Camp Delta within Camp X-Ray.

00:10:04.000 And then, the story hadn't been out a day before Newsweek said, uh, sorry, we report it wrong, it's not true, no Koran in the toilet.

00:10:14.000 Now, I see this tactic over and over again.

00:10:18.000 They will have the media report things that are true, and then on purpose retract it to supposedly make the public think that everything's okay.

00:10:26.000 But that's done domestically.

00:10:28.000 Internationally, and we even have the Pentagon war plan, propaganda plan on this, internationally, with a program called P-2-O-G, launched in early 2002, P-2-O-G, type that in, you'll get AP, Reuters, UPI, We got the Rumsfeld Plan, a $6.2 billion program a year, to go out and put out propaganda that will enrage the Arabs. 0.65

00:10:53.000 So they'll put the propaganda out, it won't be discredited internationally, then Americans are told, oh it wasn't true so we feel like everything's okay, we go back to sleep, but meanwhile the whole world is enraged.

00:11:08.000 Because we have Pentagon documents, we have Israeli documents, even back in the early eighties they said, we want to take over Iraq, balkanize the place, have an endless civil war, it's perfect for this, we don't ever want to put a government in that's strong, we want ethnic strife, we want religious strife between the different suburbs of Muslims.

00:11:26.000 This was the British plan a hundred years ago, or to be accurate, ninety years ago.

00:11:32.000 This is the plan today.

00:11:35.000 This is what they're doing.

00:11:36.000 And so you look at the quagmire that's Iraq, that was the plan! 1.00

00:11:41.000 The Pentagon told them, 500,000, 450,000 troops.

00:11:44.000 We've had generals on talking about this.

00:11:46.000 They said, we don't care, we're going to use 150,000 troops.

00:11:50.000 They did things like one person shoots at them from a town of 5,000 people, they arrest every man down to age 11.

00:11:57.000 They bulldoze every date palm, every tangerine palm, every olive grove.

00:12:03.000 Bulldoze them.

00:12:04.000 The people become outraged.

00:12:07.000 70% of the population was happy when the globalists took over?

00:12:10.000 They could have fixed this thing and had a small insurgency?

00:12:14.000 They didn't!

00:12:15.000 You've got to understand!

00:12:17.000 It's the same thing with education. 0.87

00:12:18.000 It's designed to dumb you down.

00:12:20.000 The worse it gets, the more funding, because they're doing their job.

00:12:23.000 The war on drugs is meant to fail, because in failing they win.

00:12:27.000 Triple the heroin, double the cocaine in the last ten years.

00:12:29.000 From one million in prison, to over seven million in prison.

00:12:32.000 The globalists bring in the drugs, your kids use them, they put them in prisons, they work for 20 cents an hour, this place is workers, the drug dealers own the prisons, the cartels own the prisons, this is how it works.

00:12:43.000 Again, you're not looking at it from the proper angle.

00:12:46.000 Look, it was the CIA that released the photos to CBS News of the torture and the beating to death and the dogs.

00:12:55.000 Okay?

00:12:56.000 Then domestically we're told it's okay, we're further dehumanized and turned into basically evil minions of the globalists.

00:13:04.000 Internationally, oh, it's an incredible outrage.

00:13:07.000 Now, it's being reported.

00:13:08.000 Look, look.

00:13:09.000 Two weeks ago, London Guardian, London Telegraph, London Independent, One of our own senior military men, well, we forget that General Rick Baucus, two and a half years ago, was in the Rhode Island newspapers, left.

00:13:25.000 He was the head of Camp X-Ray, and he said, we're torturing these people, and they're not even Taliban or Al-Qaeda.

00:13:29.000 This is wrong.

00:13:30.000 He quit.

00:13:30.000 He left.

00:13:32.000 General Rick Baucus.

00:13:33.000 Do we ever, you know, when the news questions this, do they ever bring him up?

00:13:36.000 No.

00:13:37.000 See, and I wish I had time to build all these articles, and do all these stories, and put all this data together.

00:13:42.000 I only have time, folks.

00:13:43.000 I have a drive to do this, but there's no way to do it all.

00:13:49.000 We could post the articles from a week ago and two weeks ago where one of the top interpreters, a U.S.

00:13:55.000 Army officer, was there when they were raping these people, sexually.

00:14:00.000 Everybody they've released, again, why are they releasing them? 0.85

00:14:03.000 On purpose.

00:14:03.000 They go tell the story.

00:14:05.000 Talks about prostitutes coming in, doing things with blood, Uh, making men do things. 0.87

00:14:12.000 I mean, it's in the handbook.

00:14:14.000 We've now got the CIA handbook.

00:14:16.000 Tabling, putting somebody on a table, strapping them down, sticking their head down into about a foot of water, normally full of feces and urine.

00:14:23.000 I'm sorry folks, but that's what they do.

00:14:25.000 This is admitted.

00:14:27.000 Uh, the new Attorney General says they're allowed to do that.

00:14:30.000 Okay?

00:14:31.000 That's all public.

00:14:32.000 His own words.

00:14:34.000 That's all meant to get out.

00:14:36.000 Do you understand that?

00:14:37.000 And here, domestically, they'll report it, then retract it.

00:14:39.000 But it's not retracted internationally.

00:14:41.000 Yes, it's going on.

00:14:43.000 We've got Rick Baucus, we've got this other officer two weeks ago, we've got the prisoners.

00:14:48.000 It's not being denied.

00:14:51.000 But for the general public to feel okay, see, the globalists have to release the news.

00:14:55.000 So they release the news, they release the prisoners, but then domestically tell you it's not true.

00:15:01.000 Well, we were reporting a year and a half ago that they Do things to Korans.

00:15:06.000 With bodily functions.

00:15:09.000 It's not just putting them in a toilet, ladies and gentlemen. 0.63

00:15:12.000 They... The troops come in and they... I don't like to get into all this stuff, but... And they don't just defecate on the Korans.

00:15:20.000 They put blood on them.

00:15:22.000 I told you they do little satanic chants. 0.98

00:15:24.000 And these Muslims freak out. 1.00

00:15:26.000 They think they're in hell. 0.99

00:15:27.000 Especially these Afghanis. 1.00

00:15:29.000 Again, I talked about this last week.

00:15:30.000 They're like cavemen, folks. 0.99

00:15:32.000 They don't... Most of them...

00:15:33.000 Don't even know where America is on a map.

00:15:36.000 They've never left their village up on, you know, some mountainside.

00:15:41.000 And then they release these guys and they go back and, It was hell! 0.97

00:15:44.000 They are the devil, it is true! 1.00

00:15:46.000 The blood of the devil! 0.99

00:15:49.000 And they do this and it's P2OG! 1.00

00:15:54.000 And our idiot, demonic jail guards that get hired and put into the military, they enjoy doing all this. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Folks, it's all admitted. 1.00

00:16:05.000 It's so sophisticated.

00:16:06.000 Okay, that's one article, and I've just spent ten minutes on it.

00:16:10.000 I have literally got... I've never had this much news.

00:16:14.000 It gets worse every week, every day.

00:16:16.000 There is no way to properly cover all of this.

00:16:19.000 Perhaps one of you listeners would like to go to my website, PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com, get the Rick Baucus articles from two and a half years ago, get the article from last week, I don't even have time to call Paul Watson and tell him to do this, and he's going out to do something today.

00:16:34.000 And my wife's sitting there trying to do this, and we've got Ryan Slickheisen trying to do it. 0.99

00:16:38.000 There's so many data pages, so much.

00:16:40.000 I'm not whining, it's the frustration.

00:16:42.000 Just to chronicle all the lies, and then to analyze this.

00:16:47.000 We know how to crack the code, and how to expose their operations, where it makes sense from their own documents, but it's just how to articulate it.

00:16:54.000 But we need to get a page built, That shows Rick Baucus, that shows the witnesses that have been released, that shows the latest military officer, that shows the admissions of the Attorney General who was the Chief White House Counsel, Alberto, I love torture, Gonzalez.

00:17:10.000 We need to get it all together in one spot and then write a little blurb about how the government brings this out on purpose with P-2-O-G to show a link when we make that claim. 0.67

00:17:24.000 Every word has to be a link as we document.

00:17:27.000 And then show the basic program, and then this is understandable.

00:17:33.000 I mean, here's another example of why I'm frustrated.

00:17:37.000 Four or five months ago, they're having the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

00:17:45.000 And at the World Economic Forum, a CNN executive comes out, this was all staged, and says, yeah, we've got reports they're targeting and killing our own journalists.

00:17:55.000 And then that gets leaked, and they said to the head, one of the head guys at CNN, well what's your problem?

00:18:01.000 We want to see the facts!

00:18:03.000 And the exec goes, well, uh, uh, uh, uh, on the spot, well let me try to get them for you.

00:18:08.000 Oh, see, he doesn't have them, it's all lies, he's, he's fired.

00:18:13.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:18:14.000 Wait a minute.

00:18:16.000 Before the Iraq War, we had like BBC and AP, where the Pentagon said they'd target journalists if they, quote, reported anything to the enemy.

00:18:24.000 And then we've got them in front of the Baghdad Hotel, the tank aiming the Abrams and blowing up the Reuters floor, what, the 9th floor?

00:18:33.000 And we've got them driving up people and killing them.

00:18:35.000 We've got the admissions. 0.62

00:18:36.000 We've got like a hundred reports.

00:18:37.000 It's not even debatable.

00:18:39.000 The Pentagon said it.

00:18:40.000 But see, when the media goes, where's the proof?

00:18:42.000 And then they don't ever show any proof.

00:18:43.000 They go, see, there's no proof.

00:18:45.000 I mean, they do this with everything, with torture, with all of it.

00:18:48.000 We're like wallowing in proof of all of this.

00:18:52.000 Now it's, show us the proof, Rumsfeld and Bush said there were WMDs.

00:18:56.000 And the media goes, well there's really no proof, they never really said it.

00:18:59.000 I've got probably a hundred clips of it.

00:19:05.000 I've played a few of them here, do I have time to go through literally hundreds of VHS tapes where I take the whole war?

00:19:11.000 I need to get a bigger office.

00:19:12.000 I need money to do that.

00:19:13.000 I need to get a bunch of interns in to do it. 1.00

00:19:15.000 But I gotta go out and get the bigger office.

00:19:17.000 And again, I can't do it all, folks.

00:19:18.000 It's like we're trying to analyze the combined efforts of about five different governments who have upwards of 15 intelligence agencies apiece.

00:19:27.000 I mean, how do I cover all the fake reporters, all the fake news, all the paid-for fake news?

00:19:32.000 Because the news is only the tip of the iceberg.

00:19:34.000 There's all the hundreds of pieces of propaganda in movies, comic books, dramas on TV.

00:19:39.000 There's all that propaganda.

00:19:41.000 How do you cover all that?

00:19:45.000 It's just bottom line.

00:19:47.000 You know there are a bunch of criminals.

00:19:48.000 You've seen the evidence.

00:19:50.000 And it makes my head swim.

00:19:52.000 It makes it spin.

00:19:54.000 We are deluged in an orgy of evidence.

00:19:58.000 All right, I'm just going to come through and blitz through news and wrap it afire when we get back.

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00:23:57.000 visit www.TrustJesusToday.com My friends, I'm just so frustrated.

00:24:10.000 There's so much corruption, so much pure evil, Just, we catch the globalists red-handed, kidnapping hundreds of thousands of women and children.

00:24:19.000 We catch them red-handed putting poison in the food and water.

00:24:22.000 We catch them red-handed with their own documents, how they're going to lie to us, how they're going to carry out terror attacks, how they're going to... I mean, it's really all public!

00:24:31.000 And that's why they're coming out on CNN and going, Mildenberg Group does want world government and they are the elite, but it's good.

00:24:38.000 They're having to respond now because they've been caught.

00:24:41.000 In the past they just lie and deny.

00:24:43.000 Now they just spin.

00:24:44.000 Oh yes, we're for world government.

00:24:46.000 World taxation.

00:24:47.000 It's good for you.

00:24:50.000 Look at this.

00:24:51.000 This is out of the BBC.

00:24:53.000 And again, they had to report because the Burmese government went public.

00:24:57.000 Superpower behind Burma blast. 1.00

00:24:59.000 Burma's government says rebel trains abroad by superpower.

00:25:03.000 CIA were behind last week's bombings at three shopping centers in the capital of Rangoon.

00:25:11.000 19 people are known to have died in the blast, with 69 injured, and that's just the latest round.

00:25:16.000 The explosives used were not available in the country.

00:25:21.000 And the plot was funded by a world-famous organization, the military government said.

00:25:26.000 The junta said it believes the attacks were led by the Thailand-based All Burma Students Democratic Front.

00:25:33.000 It's crystal clear that the terrorist and the time bombs originated from the training conducted with foreign experts at a place in a neighboring country by a world-famous organization of a certain superpower nation.

00:25:45.000 And ask later about it until they said the CIA.

00:25:47.000 Then they talk about all the money the U.S.

00:25:49.000 government's funded and all the things they've done.

00:25:52.000 Even though the minister refused to name the suspected country and organization, correspondents believe he was referring to the United States.

00:25:58.000 And now a new report is out in Burma, they're saying it's the CIA.

00:26:02.000 And yeah, I mean, the CIA admittedly Over 300 times that I know of in their own public annals!

00:26:09.000 They'll just put it on History Channel, Discovery Channel, like it's cool.

00:26:12.000 Oh yeah, they took them out, they did it, wow!

00:26:15.000 For freedom!

00:26:16.000 They blew up those kids!

00:26:19.000 Well, it's like the case of Mosaddegh. 0.99

00:26:23.000 Time Magazine Man of the Year.

00:26:25.000 Viciously anti-communist.

00:26:27.000 Secular.

00:26:28.000 Christians thriving in Iran.

00:26:31.000 Ran the Soviets out. 0.97

00:26:32.000 Assassination attempts on him.

00:26:34.000 And the U.S.

00:26:35.000 and BP came to him, British Petroleum.

00:26:37.000 This is all public.

00:26:38.000 I'll never forget about a year ago, I heard Roosevelt's grandson, the guy that ran it, Kermit Roosevelt, I heard them all on there.

00:26:46.000 These were all recordings from the 70s.

00:26:48.000 How they carried out bombings and blamed it on Mosedek.

00:26:51.000 And they came to Mosedek and they said, he will give us 100% of the oil.

00:26:56.000 Belzadek said, no, I'm going to keep 25% for our people, but you can have the oil.

00:27:01.000 We'll still keep dealing with you, but some of the money is going to go to the people.

00:27:05.000 It's going to be a free market.

00:27:06.000 We're going to have some companies here.

00:27:08.000 You're going to have to wear a suit and tie.

00:27:10.000 And the commies couldn't get him, but our government could.

00:27:13.000 And they just said, well, enjoy yourself then.

00:27:16.000 And our government hired 2,000 thugs, and for two and a half weeks, they machine-gunned schools, bombed mosques, ran around desecrating mosques, screaming, Mozedek, Mozedek, up with Mozedek, up with communism. 0.86

00:27:29.000 And they got him, and then they put in the Shaw, the young twit, and the rest is history. 0.63

00:27:35.000 Massive crackdowns, incredible torture, incredible police state, and look what we have today.

00:27:40.000 Because we have the government documents.

00:27:41.000 They don't want freedom.

00:27:42.000 They don't want republics.

00:27:44.000 They don't want limited democracies in the Middle East. 0.98

00:27:46.000 Anytime there is one or in Africa, they send in slaughter forces to kill them. 0.99

00:27:50.000 Okay? 0.82

00:27:50.000 There's the facts about Iran today. 0.82

00:27:52.000 You want to know why they hate us so much?

00:27:56.000 And I had to hear Kermit Roosevelt and other sickos on NPR.

00:28:01.000 And NPR was acting like it was good.

00:28:03.000 Oh, how nice!

00:28:05.000 Oh, good for freedom!

00:28:08.000 And they were admitting, well, Mozadek was free market and anti-communist, but he just wouldn't give us all the oil.

00:28:12.000 Ha ha ha!

00:28:13.000 So we were, we, we, we, we killed hundreds and just went around blowing everything up. 0.98

00:28:18.000 Shooting, bombing, killing, desecrating Mosh, and blaming it on him. 1.00

00:28:22.000 They had all the pamphlets printed up, they put it in, and of course, you know, populations like they're dumb here are dumb there. 1.00

00:28:29.000 They just bought it. 0.99

00:28:31.000 Out went Mozadek and freed him and went total, total tyranny. 1.00

00:28:36.000 That's what Mozadek got for trying to be free market and trying to be good to his people, and kicking the communists out.

00:28:43.000 Okay, I said I'd blitz the news, and that's one article, but I mean, how can you not spend time on this?

00:28:48.000 And what was it last week, BBC?

00:28:50.000 They now admit CIA documents have been declassified, National Security Archives, that the U.S.

00:28:55.000 government funded the bombing of at least one, it's really multiple, of Cuban passenger planes, to be blamed on people.

00:29:01.000 They have a police stick.

00:29:03.000 Blowing up men, women, and children, folks. 0.99

00:29:05.000 Same old, same old.

00:29:08.000 But don't worry, former advisor Booker expects another domestic terrorist attack.

00:29:15.000 Two former national security leaders say they are perplexed that suicide bombers have not targeted America on U.S.

00:29:21.000 soils.

00:29:22.000 Don't worry, Bush, we'll do that, and then his controllers will, and then we'll have the national draft. 0.98

00:29:27.000 They're cold-blooded killers.

00:29:28.000 We gotta have a draft.

00:29:29.000 The threshold of entry into this business of suicide bombers is not very high, said Sandy Berger, who's a convicted thief, national security criminal in President Clinton's second term.

00:29:40.000 But he's out there mongering for him, too.

00:29:42.000 He got caught stealing top-secret, above-top-secret documents, and he got a slap on the wrist for it, because he's another criminal.

00:29:48.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:53.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

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00:33:00.000 The next hour, Michael Rivera, WhatReallyHappens.com.

00:33:12.000 An hour after that, Jim Tucker, fresh back from the Bilderberg Group meeting.

00:33:18.000 Conclave.

00:33:20.000 Your calls are coming up 1-800-259-9231.

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00:33:22.000 I'm going to cover a few more news items and then we'll start going to your calls here in a minute.

00:33:35.000 But I wanted to play this clip so you could hear the doublespeak.

00:33:38.000 Go ahead and play those back-to-back please.

00:33:40.000 Close the borders.

00:33:42.000 Close the borders in California and all across, uh, in Mexico. 0.92

00:33:48.000 The bottom line is I misspoke.

00:33:50.000 And I'm sorry if that, you know, offended anyone.

00:33:53.000 But it was a language problem because I meant securing our borders rather than closing our borders.

00:33:59.000 It's always the same thing from him.

00:34:02.000 Oh, I'm so sorry I grabbed you there, ma'am.

00:34:05.000 It was a language problem.

00:34:06.000 And the media will go, tell us about you and Enron.

00:34:09.000 Sorry, don't hear you.

00:34:10.000 What was that? 1.00

00:34:12.000 It's just, he's such an idiot. 1.00

00:34:16.000 And, uh, Again, it's what our government does. 1.00

00:34:20.000 It's what they all do.

00:34:21.000 Bush, I'm for the Second Amendment!

00:34:23.000 Unless prescribed by law and I'm going to appoint a bunch of anti-gun people and he should be able to sue the gun manufacturers.

00:34:29.000 And people go, I heard he's pro-gun, Alex!

00:34:32.000 Well, actually, no he's not, but do you want to see the facts?

00:34:34.000 No, I heard him, it's alright.

00:34:36.000 You know, but we're losing the Second Amendment. 0.99

00:34:38.000 Ah, shut up, anti-gunner! 0.73

00:34:40.000 It's the same thing with Schwarzenegger, but speaking of the borders, Tough immigration talk backfires for Vicente Fox. 0.97

00:34:49.000 Mexican El Presidente Vicente Fox's latest bid to convince U.S.

00:34:54.000 policy makers to ease immigration controls for Mexican workers may have backfired after his tough talk late last week was roundly condemned as racist.

00:35:06.000 You know I thought that when I heard it but I just didn't even go there. 0.95

00:35:10.000 And he went on to say Why, Mexicans will take jobs that blacks don't even want! 0.99

00:35:18.000 And that is such a fraud. 0.99

00:35:21.000 A frustrated frocks lashed down on Friday at a new U.S.

00:35:26.000 controls on immigration, but he ended up red-faced over his own words.

00:35:30.000 I told you, he'll have all these articles about the illegals are angry.

00:35:33.000 Ooh, Bush is really doing something!

00:35:36.000 Meanwhile, he pushes total amnesty bills, total worker programs.

00:35:41.000 Anybody who's here is legal.

00:35:42.000 Anybody who can get here for six years is legal.

00:35:44.000 That automatically extends out if Congress doesn't stop it at that point.

00:35:48.000 Allows companies to bring skilled and unskilled here, even more.

00:35:52.000 Computer people, you think you're getting, you know, $12 an hour when you were getting $50 an hour ten years ago?

00:35:57.000 Well, you think that's bad?

00:35:58.000 The Indians will work for seven smackers an hour. 1.00

00:36:01.000 How are you going to pay off your college Bills, that hundred grand you owe for that software engineer job, you're not going to.

00:36:10.000 And of course, the government, the Congressional Budget Office last year said the layoffs are going to get seven times greater by 2008 in high-tech alone.

00:36:19.000 And I remember, five, six years ago, I'd get calls from, you know, computer programmers, software engineers, engineers, electrical engineers, Hey Alex, I'm making $150,000 a year!

00:36:29.000 You know, we need these unskilled workers. 0.99

00:36:31.000 Nobody wants to pick the lettuce.

00:36:33.000 Nobody wants to work at McDonald's.

00:36:34.000 Nobody wants to clean houses.

00:36:36.000 Nobody wants to be a nanny. 1.00

00:36:38.000 Nobody wants to do carpentry work.

00:36:40.000 Well, yeah, because if you went to college, or you're paying insurance, and you want a three-bedroom house for you and your wife and your four children, and you want to have at least one car that works, and you want to take off a week a year, you need to get 15 bucks an hour roofing houses!

00:36:56.000 But no, the illegal aliens will do it for five bucks an hour and they'll live ten to a house. 1.00

00:37:04.000 I'm not bashing them, this is just the facts of economic life.

00:37:08.000 And so, now, the once proud construction workers of this country that could have a good life, a good middle class life, can't do it.

00:37:18.000 And it's every other industry.

00:37:21.000 You thought you could be a telemarketer, you thought you could be customer service, I probably know ten good friends.

00:37:26.000 Who lived in nice little apartments, had a nice car, go on a vacation.

00:37:30.000 The husband and wife could both be customer service people. 0.91

00:37:33.000 They could, you know, put a little money in for college to help their children maybe.

00:37:37.000 You know, getting 15 bucks an hour.

00:37:40.000 Uh-uh! 0.99

00:37:40.000 7 bucks an hour! 0.99

00:37:41.000 And it's only going down!

00:37:43.000 I mean, folks, you cannot survive on 7 bucks an hour.

00:37:47.000 I was getting like 10 bucks an hour in college.

00:37:51.000 And I could pay for my apartment barely, pay for my car a little bit, and frankly, I'd sit there a couple times a year and go, Dad, can I have a little money when I make a little bit more?

00:38:00.000 And I did.

00:38:01.000 I paid my dad back.

00:38:02.000 After my dad supplementing me for about two years, I ended up paying him back years later.

00:38:08.000 And that's when I was in college with a job on top of that, you know, with a 40-hour-a-week job on top of that.

00:38:16.000 So, you know, so my dad supplemented to help pay for college, which a lot of people can't do because the parents don't have money anymore.

00:38:22.000 Alright, see, I'm going into that whole story.

00:38:25.000 The American dream going down the tubes.

00:38:28.000 And inflation's out of control.

00:38:30.000 It's all bad.

00:38:31.000 And it's very, very serious.

00:38:34.000 Let me give you an example about this economy.

00:38:37.000 Our audience roughly doubles every two years.

00:38:40.000 My web traffic, my web listeners, the things we get indicators from.

00:38:45.000 And I've lowered the prices of my videos, in some cases, down to $5.95 apiece.

00:38:52.000 We've cut the prices of the films about 45% while everybody else is going up with inflation.

00:38:56.000 Because my goal is to get the word out.

00:38:57.000 But still, we don't sell as much as we did two years ago.

00:39:00.000 We've doubled the audience.

00:39:02.000 And I've talked to all these other businesses.

00:39:04.000 I go into CompUSA or computer places.

00:39:07.000 They're empty!

00:39:08.000 Five years ago they were jam-packed!

00:39:11.000 Businesses are... I'm ranting.

00:39:14.000 I know I am.

00:39:16.000 To notice, all these illegal aliens go, you know, hail open borders, but you don't like Bush, do you?

00:39:21.000 Well, Bush is for the open borders.

00:39:22.000 You gotta get smart.

00:39:24.000 I mean, the illegal aliens that have been here for five, six years are having their jobs taken by the new illegal aliens. 0.99

00:39:29.000 Mexico's losing all its factories, and I mean almost all of them now.

00:39:33.000 New ones aren't being built.

00:39:34.000 A lot of them are shutting down to go to China and India.

00:39:37.000 It's even hurting them!

00:39:39.000 What's that gonna do?

00:39:40.000 Push even more up here.

00:39:42.000 So, Folks, this is deadly, deadly, deadly serious.

00:39:50.000 Oh, man, how do I cover all of this?

00:39:52.000 I want to go to your calls here in just a minute.

00:39:53.000 You know what?

00:39:54.000 I'm going to.

00:39:55.000 I want to get into your speaker stand and that Tiananmen Square-style massacre that our government's, well, maybe it's alright. 0.90

00:40:00.000 I mean, you know, these men are having to fight Al-Qaeda.

00:40:04.000 And I want to get into, if you have a gun that isn't registered properly or a magazine that holds too many rounds and they're banning stuff left and right, they'll just seize your house.

00:40:13.000 And, uh, this is on the London Independent.

00:40:15.000 The deserters, AWOL crisis hits U.S.

00:40:17.000 forces.

00:40:18.000 Gotta have that draft.

00:40:20.000 Woodward calls chaining a series of dark horse for the 2008 run for the White House.

00:40:26.000 Deputies apologize for Los Angeles shooting where they shot a cop, ran over another cop.

00:40:33.000 Uh, they were shooting their own people and then fought some white car driving by a dunnit, so they shot him. 1.00

00:40:37.000 And they go, we don't apologize for shooting up the houses. 0.60

00:40:42.000 Uh, we just apologize if it hurt your feelings, but we'd do it again.

00:40:44.000 As we said, we'd do it again.

00:40:46.000 That's our apology.

00:40:48.000 Yeah, spray, uh, now it's six houses.

00:40:51.000 A few years ago, it was spray a dozen houses.

00:40:53.000 One house blew up and burned down.

00:40:54.000 Shot two cops, killed one.

00:40:56.000 Nobody got in trouble for that. 0.50

00:40:59.000 And they look like gang members up there.

00:41:02.000 We apologize that it might have scared you, but we'd do it again.

00:41:07.000 Unarmed guy is scared.

00:41:10.000 And now it's coming out that they just started shooting at him, because they thought he was a... This has all happened to us, and I know it's happened to you.

00:41:18.000 It might have, but probably happened to you.

00:41:19.000 I'll put it to you that way.

00:41:20.000 I know it's happened to me like twice.

00:41:22.000 You're listening to music, bebopping along down the road.

00:41:26.000 You know, the Red Red Robin with blah blah blah, but along... You're listening to something like that, a little attempt at humor.

00:41:32.000 And all of a sudden, the cop is honking his horn, pulling up beside you.

00:41:36.000 Pull over! 0.96

00:41:37.000 I got behind you 500 yards ago!

00:41:39.000 Why didn't you pull over?

00:41:40.000 You know, yeah, they pull up behind you.

00:41:42.000 And as they're driving up to you, you don't see the lights until they get right up on you.

00:41:45.000 And by then, they're throwing a fit.

00:41:47.000 Jumping around, screaming at you.

00:41:48.000 That's happened to me twice.

00:41:50.000 I get pulled over, occasionally, because I like to.

00:41:52.000 Got a lead foot, as it's well known.

00:41:54.000 And, uh, usually I'll say, hey, I didn't know.

00:41:57.000 Well, I could arrest you for that.

00:41:58.000 That happened once.

00:41:59.000 The other time, it didn't.

00:42:01.000 But, uh, that's what happened here.

00:42:03.000 I mean, just instantly, they thought it was somebody who'd shot at deputies earlier.

00:42:08.000 Vehicle fit the description.

00:42:10.000 And so the guy doesn't immediately pull over, so they just open fire.

00:42:13.000 I mean, sorry, we're on cell phones.

00:42:15.000 We're listening to the radio.

00:42:16.000 We're eating a ham sandwich.

00:42:19.000 It's incredible.

00:42:20.000 And cops, you know it's happened to you before.

00:42:23.000 You don't notice somebody behind you.

00:42:25.000 But hey, nowadays, that'll get you... Now they're saying 200 rounds.

00:42:29.000 No one knows.

00:42:32.000 A bunch of new taser desks.

00:42:33.000 Two new taser desks over the weekend.

00:42:36.000 Charles in Louisiana.

00:42:38.000 Welcome, sir.

00:42:39.000 How you doing, Mr. Jones?

00:42:41.000 Pretty good.

00:42:41.000 Good to be talking to you, my friend.

00:42:43.000 Yeah, well, I wanted to tell you up here, maybe people are waking up.

00:42:46.000 They put a tax on us that we didn't get the service for.

00:42:50.000 Mosquito spraying.

00:42:51.000 Nobody paid it.

00:42:53.000 You know, nobody paid the tax.

00:42:55.000 Well, you got bad mosquitoes in Louisiana.

00:42:57.000 Yeah, well, but they're throwing charges for last year when we never got no service.

00:43:02.000 You know, they started, well they said we're going to tax you, but we're going to start from last year.

00:43:06.000 So nobody paid the tax.

00:43:08.000 Well that's one of those services that's worse than the disease.

00:43:11.000 Yes, but they're spraying you on, you know.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, I know.

00:43:14.000 I've seen them drive by my house with just fumes everywhere.

00:43:17.000 It doesn't even stop the mosquitoes.

00:43:19.000 It's bad here, boy.

00:43:20.000 But anyway, people are kind of waking up down here, and I hope to God I had something to do with it.

00:43:24.000 But now I want to say I got a DVD burner, so I'm going to start putting more tapes out than ever before now.

00:43:31.000 Well, I salute you.

00:43:32.000 How many copies of my video do you have?

00:43:33.000 Well, I quit counting.

00:43:34.000 I tell you, so many.

00:43:35.000 It's got so confusing.

00:43:36.000 I quit counting at 5,212.

00:43:40.000 Now I'm putting out the DVDs on the burner.

00:43:42.000 I'm not going to count them.

00:43:44.000 It's just too confusing.

00:43:46.000 But it took me five years to do that, you know?

00:43:48.000 But anyway, Mr. Jones, you think we're winning this thing?

00:43:51.000 I think people are starting to wake up.

00:43:52.000 I really believe it.

00:43:53.000 Well, it's like this.

00:43:54.000 The bully was pushing us around, punching us in the nose, pushed us down on the ground, was sitting on us, spitting on us, laughing at us.

00:44:02.000 I remember being about 11 when something like that first happened.

00:44:05.000 I was a sweet little kid and he was doing that.

00:44:07.000 And finally, I just got mad and threw the bigger kid off me.

00:44:10.000 He started stomping on his head.

00:44:11.000 And we're at the point of deciding to throw him office right now. 0.98

00:44:14.000 We're getting to the point of going, you know, they're going to be spitting on me and shitting on me and hitting me. 0.98

00:44:19.000 I might as well just throw this guy off me. 0.99

00:44:21.000 So we're just, yeah.

00:44:22.000 But, uh, you know, the bully may fight back, but so what?

00:44:26.000 We may get our teeth knocked out. 0.98

00:44:27.000 It's better than licking this creature's boots. 0.98

00:44:30.000 Yeah, right, right.

00:44:32.000 And I just wanted to, I just wanted to call in and check what you know upstairs.

00:44:34.000 Sometimes I don't call as much, but I appreciate what you're doing, my friend.

00:44:38.000 And I appreciate the tapes.

00:44:40.000 And I hope everybody takes advantage of these tapes.

00:44:42.000 You know, because I'm telling you, I really believe the tapes make a difference.

00:44:45.000 I really believe that.

00:44:46.000 Now, hold on.

00:44:47.000 I wouldn't be doing this, Mr. Jones.

00:44:49.000 I appreciate the call, Charles.

00:44:50.000 Keep it up.

00:44:51.000 I mean, yesterday, I went on, like, a 15-mile bike ride.

00:44:54.000 I'm trying to get in shape.

00:44:56.000 And part of it was around the downtown hiking bike trail, and this, uh, big old mean-looking homeless guy comes out in the middle of the path, out in the middle of nowhere, and says, I like that bike.

00:45:04.000 Give me that bike. 0.93

00:45:06.000 And you gotta know when to hold him, know when to fold him, know when to walk away, and know when to run.

00:45:10.000 But I figured that guy Was probably the type who would mess with a woman or something. 0.95

00:45:16.000 So I just threw my bike down, jumped off, and I was with my friend and I said, uh, if you want it, come and take it.

00:45:21.000 And he ran back in the woods.

00:45:23.000 But, uh, I don't know, I mean, and I'm not even a tough guy, folks, but it's that attitude.

00:45:28.000 You know, just, uh, throw the bike down, you want it, take it.

00:45:32.000 If you want it, take it.

00:45:33.000 If you want to come, and then I saw another crew of these guys harassing somebody else, and luckily the bike cops were on them.

00:45:40.000 And that's good, that's what officers are supposed to do.

00:45:43.000 Uh, but I mean, I'm telling you. 0.99

00:45:45.000 And maybe it was, you know, dumb. 0.99

00:45:47.000 But I'm just sick of it. 0.98

00:45:49.000 Plus, I was all in an adrenaline rush from going up and down hills for a couple of hours already at that time.

00:45:53.000 I'm just sick of it.

00:45:54.000 I'm sick of bullies.

00:45:56.000 I like that bike.

00:45:56.000 Give me that bike.

00:45:57.000 I just... boom.

00:45:59.000 You want some?

00:46:00.000 Come and take this bike.

00:46:03.000 I mean, I'm just sick of it.

00:46:05.000 Uh, who's up next here?

00:46:08.000 Alright, Andrea in Ohio, you're on the air.

00:46:10.000 Yes.

00:46:11.000 I wanted to comment about your earlier remarks about the Koran and the toilet.

00:46:18.000 You're right.

00:46:18.000 They're doing a lot more extreme things with the Koran.

00:46:22.000 But I think... And again, that has not been retracted.

00:46:25.000 We have dozens of articles.

00:46:26.000 They put it out, then retract it to make it sound like it isn't true.

00:46:29.000 Well, and I think what it does is it conditions people to accept this is okay. 0.98

00:46:34.000 But also, I think, I mean, I've been watching fellow Christians and I've been appalled Because the reaction is like, oh well, those awful Muslims and that heathen, you know, the false doctors. 1.00

00:46:46.000 I've heard them on talk radio. 0.99

00:46:47.000 They're subhuman.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:49.000 I mean, this is talk like we heard in Nazi Germany.

00:46:52.000 Well, yeah, it's what Robert J. Liston and his eight characteristics of mind control.

00:46:57.000 It's called dispensing with existence.

00:46:59.000 You first have to demonize a subgroup, train the public to use the machinery of the police state on them, so the public will accept its use on themselves.

00:47:09.000 Christian conservatives are the main real target of all this, but so many of them get off books. 0.97

00:47:14.000 Having people rape these men is not Christian. 0.94

00:47:17.000 That is not moral, that is not Christian, and I think somehow if we're going to do this A little like what you described with the webpage having a concise thing after you've got all the articles. 1.00

00:47:31.000 My frustration was there's ten things I want to write an info page on a day.

00:47:36.000 It's every day.

00:47:37.000 To properly analyze it all, that's why it's important people buy our videos and support us because that's what it's going to take for me to get all this work done.

00:47:45.000 Well, my comment is to...

00:47:48.000 Less money's coming in than ever, but I'm just spending every red cent more trying to get people, trying to hire the brains that can do this.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, my comment is, too, that somehow we have to get conservative Christians to think.

00:48:01.000 They're not thinking about the implications of things either.

00:48:04.000 They're not thinking about, okay, this government that you think is so wonderful that's doing all these psychological operations on the Muslims. 1.00

00:48:13.000 What makes you think That those same powers to repress are not going to be turned on us.

00:48:20.000 Well, look around you.

00:48:21.000 Thanks for the call.

00:48:22.000 Great points.

00:48:23.000 Look around you.

00:48:24.000 A prison is being built.

00:48:26.000 National ID cards, retina scanners in airports, thumb scanning to buy and sell, the grid going in, police in black ski mask uniforms, armored vehicles everywhere.

00:48:35.000 All this stuff going in.

00:48:37.000 Asset forfeiture seizure, all these new gun laws.

00:48:40.000 And the average person has no idea.

00:48:43.000 Joe, where are you calling us from?

00:48:45.000 Uh, Colorado.

00:48:46.000 Welcome.

00:48:47.000 Uh, I'd just like to second what that other guy said about making copies.

00:48:50.000 Uh, if everybody make a few hundred, well a few hundred, or a few dozen copies, place them on windshields, label them, say, you make a hundred copies.

00:48:59.000 You could educate a lot of people that aren't getting, uh, Get your program as it is.

00:49:03.000 Well, I've had calls from New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Austin.

00:49:09.000 Please stop putting your videos on windshields.

00:49:12.000 Or please keep it up.

00:49:14.000 No, please do it.

00:49:15.000 The point is you guys are out there doing it and I commend you.

00:49:18.000 There you go.

00:49:19.000 And what do people do about this?

00:49:22.000 Maybe I've done too much.

00:49:23.000 I've been getting hit by this pain from a distance weapon.

00:49:27.000 What do you... I mean, you can't go to the cop.

00:49:29.000 They'll say, well, you're paranoid.

00:49:31.000 It's not fun.

00:49:32.000 I mean, what can you do?

00:49:34.000 Well, I'd have to have more details, sir.

00:49:37.000 Well, at night you get the treatment if you're an activist like me.

00:49:42.000 That's all I can say.

00:49:43.000 Are you close to a military base?

00:49:46.000 I travel a lot and evidently I've stirred up a lot of people by doing what I just suggested.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, I'm targeted wherever I go.

00:49:55.000 You know, what can I say?

00:49:56.000 I'm not technologically minded, but I know when I'm hit... I mean, I wonder why I'm not targeted.

00:50:01.000 I don't know.

00:50:03.000 I don't know.

00:50:03.000 I'm a small fry that they can pick on, I guess.

00:50:06.000 Well, I'm not saying that doesn't happen, because we have a lot of evidence those programs go on, and it's funny, a major law enforcement magazine publication, ShomerTech, sells These hyper little sonic weapons, it says our officers love to use it, it rallies to make everybody sick, to do that, but they don't have the forces to do that en masse.

00:50:27.000 I'm not saying that's not happening to you, but 99% of people that doesn't happen to, and I'm not saying it's psychosomatic, sir, you might have high blood pressure or something.

00:50:36.000 No, no, it's beyond that.

00:50:37.000 But thanks anyway, I hope they make copies.

00:50:39.000 Alright, keep it up my friend.

00:50:41.000 I mean, look, I'm not That's the problem of all this.

00:50:44.000 Some of that stuff does go on, but it's few and far between.

00:50:47.000 And it mainly is on activists.

00:50:49.000 I mean, they've got a super nausea machine, and the nauseator is the little one, and they say they do use it.

00:50:57.000 And we've demonstrated one on TV before.

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00:56:14.000 Let's go to Troy in Florida.

00:56:16.000 Troy, welcome.

00:56:17.000 Hey Alex, how are you?

00:56:19.000 Good, sir.

00:56:20.000 I just wanted to make a comment that what you're doing for the American people is a great thing.

00:56:25.000 And I thank you for putting out your videos.

00:56:27.000 Well, I'm doing it for my family.

00:56:29.000 And I'm doing it because God is commanding me to.

00:56:31.000 I completely agree with that.

00:56:33.000 And I tell you, we've got to wake America up because we're losing our country in leaps and bounds.

00:56:39.000 We are.

00:56:40.000 And I tell you, I'm terrified for my family.

00:56:43.000 And I have two children and my wife.

00:56:46.000 And I'm terrified every day.

00:56:48.000 Reading the newspaper and seeing what's going on with illegal immigration.

00:56:53.000 I emailed you last week.

00:56:55.000 I sent you the billboard news story I came across about a week ago.

00:57:00.000 Which billboard?

00:57:02.000 Ah, the Spanish billboard where they crossed out... Oh yeah, we had guest on a few weeks ago about that.

00:57:06.000 Yeah, I've been listening to your show every day.

00:57:08.000 If I miss you during the day, I tune in at night over the internet.

00:57:13.000 I thank you for your program.

00:57:15.000 Well, no need to thank me.

00:57:16.000 I thank you for listening and being involved and know that standing up to these bullies is the best course.

00:57:21.000 And I gotta tell you one other thing. 0.97

00:57:23.000 You know, when you try to tell people about 9-11 being an inside job, You know, I'm coming across a lot of people that look at you like you're nuts, like you're crazy.

00:57:31.000 You know, they believe the whole brainwashing thing that the government... It's hard to talk to them, it's better to give them a video.

00:57:38.000 Exactly.

00:57:39.000 Exactly.

00:57:39.000 So another video besides yours, 9-11, the police state, I'm going to make copies of in plain sight.

00:57:47.000 I think that they... It's all good to get people thinking.

00:57:50.000 Exactly.

00:57:51.000 And you look at Building 7, like you pointed out, Well, Larry Silverstein says we blow it up.

00:57:57.000 I saw that.

00:57:57.000 I saw that documentary.

00:58:00.000 Went right down to the library and got it.

00:58:01.000 And I saw it, so I know he said it.

00:58:03.000 Yeah, you can go get the PBS documentary at the library, but they do not sell it anymore and they won't say why.

00:58:08.000 Oh, I wonder why.

00:58:09.000 Oh, we blow it up, uh-huh, and then the firefighters told the AP that.

00:58:13.000 It clearly gets blown up.

00:58:14.000 I mean, what more do you need?

00:58:16.000 Yeah, like you stated, if one part of it is a lie, You know, it's all a lie.

00:58:21.000 The whole thing's a lie.

00:58:22.000 That's the wild conspiracy theory.

00:58:24.000 Thanks for the calls, Roy.

00:58:25.000 Thank you.

00:58:26.000 You bet.

00:58:26.000 Go ahead and get Michael Rivero on for What Really Happened.

00:58:29.000 We'll take calls throughout this hour.

00:58:30.000 And I'll just throw news items out at Michael Rivero as well.

00:58:34.000 Then in the third hour, Big Jim Tucker, just back from the Bilderberg Group, will re-air that little CNN clip where they say, oh yeah, they want world government, but that's good.

00:58:42.000 It's now out in the open in Minnegot.

00:58:45.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:58:47.000 and stay with us.

00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

00:59:00.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:02.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:04.000 You want answers?

00:59:05.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:07.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:11.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 It's not on the main page of InfoWars or PrisonPlanet.com anymore.

00:59:25.000 It was from last week.

00:59:27.000 But if you go to our Yahoo group, just go to Infowars.com and click on the news group, it's still the top story from last Friday.

00:59:37.000 Sometimes it's good to not have things up in it every day.

00:59:40.000 And it says the police chief says the public should be made to take microchips.

00:59:44.000 But buried within that article, we need to add the double headline, is the police chief of Bergen County, who was saying all of this, is the same guy that arrested the Israelis, that it's been documented, two of them are Mossad agents, who were cheering on top of the building on 9-11.

00:59:58.000 Videotaping.

01:00:00.000 And he said how suspicious it was, and this is new because he hadn't been doing interviews, I got him on for one thing and brought up something else, that it's very unusual to arrest multiple people and none of them talk.

01:00:10.000 That's usually a sign of being trained.

01:00:13.000 He agreed with me when I said that.

01:00:15.000 So that's a nice little development for Michael Rivera, one of the biggest alternative websites.

01:00:20.000 To give you an idea, my sites are rated like number 20,000 each site.

01:00:24.000 You can buy them, I'm about number 5,000.

01:00:26.000 But his site's rated in the top 1,000 or so by different rating services.

01:00:31.000 And that's big.

01:00:32.000 Grudge is in, you know, like the 900s.

01:00:35.000 So for all sites, period, not just news sites, one of the biggest sites out there is Michael Rivero and does a great job kind of documenting the memory hole, showing the progression of major news reports, how they change their stories, what they admit, what the documents actually show, and joining us to talk about 9-11, the latest on the draft, the latest on the war, the latest on the people going AWOL, Thank you for having me on the show, Alex.

01:01:01.000 editor-in-chief chief commander LFA over there at what really happened dot com my good to have you on with us thank you for having me on the show Alex you make it sound like there's a huge staff over here that I'm lording over with a bull whip but it's really operation well maybe not no no no it's just a few people just like my websites but the point is we're reaching tens of millions I'm I mean, if I'm reaching tens of millions a month, how many are you reaching?

01:01:26.000 Well, I'm not reaching quite that many, but I'm getting very close to it right now, and what's interesting is we're watching a phenomenon right now where websites like yours and mine are reaching far greater audiences than most big city newspapers now, and we're starting to rival the audiences of the TV networks now.

01:01:45.000 I know!

01:01:46.000 And that's why they've got their... And now they try to control it with their paid-off reporters at the top.

01:01:52.000 Now we're seeing legions of their disinfo hacks.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, there's a new phenomenon coming onto the internet which I've called the FLOGS.

01:01:59.000 P-H-L-O-G-S. 1.00

01:02:02.000 And that's an acronym for phony bloggers. 0.96

01:02:04.000 These are people who are working for public relations companies or for intelligence agencies or even for the mainstream media Who set up a blog and pretend to be a private blogger, but they're really putting out information on behalf of their client.

01:02:17.000 Well, that's really what Gannon was in Talent News Search!

01:02:20.000 Absolutely!

01:02:21.000 He was there to basically put Bush's point of view out on the net, pretending to be an independent blog.

01:02:27.000 Well, I saw a PBS Frontline piece probably four years ago, where it showed how Summer Redstone and MTV has, at any one time, dozens of corporations, thousands of people, outrunning the fake blogs and the message boards.

01:02:40.000 He's promoting products!

01:02:42.000 Yeah, absolutely it is, and virtually every major public relations firm in the country offers this as a service, where if you're getting some bad press on the internet for your product or something, they will pay people to sit there and pretend to be private citizens.

01:02:57.000 But the wicked cousin of that are the CIA and DEA and Defense Intelligence and FBI, myriad disinfo people, attacking those of us that are telling the truth.

01:03:08.000 The good news is that there's such a discerning audience on the web now, people are seeing right through it. - That is absolutely the best thing that I've seen happen over the 12 years I've been running my website, is the public is getting skeptical, the public is relying on their own analytical powers to figure out what is right, what is wrong, I mean, they're double-checking names.

01:03:29.000 They're double-checking our facts.

01:03:30.000 And if we're telling the truth, we get more credibility, while the fake bloggers, the floggers, are getting blown to bits.

01:03:36.000 Absolutely.

01:03:37.000 I rely on my readership to catch mistakes that I'll make.

01:03:40.000 And, you know, I'm grateful that they're out there.

01:03:42.000 That's what makes us... Exactly.

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01:03:49.000 We'll talk about the fake bloggers as well.

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01:03:54.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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01:07:06.000 Central Standard Time, back from 9 to midnight Central, we're talking to Michael Rivero, one of the very first on the web, even before Grudgelet, Exposing government corruption, dissecting lies, he really got going on the Vince Foster murder, clearly a murder, and one of the biggest alternative news sites on the web, beginning to rival even major networks.

01:07:30.000 And I mean, that's the net numbers.

01:07:32.000 Mainstream cable networks and broadcast TV have lost Around 45% of their audience.

01:07:39.000 Period.

01:07:40.000 It's not TV going to cable.

01:07:41.000 It's TV going to cable and leaving cable.

01:07:44.000 Newspapers are down 65% on average in the last 10 years.

01:07:48.000 Down 16% in the last year on average.

01:07:50.000 Some are plunging even more.

01:07:52.000 So they're being desperate.

01:07:53.000 They're trying to talk about the New World Order now.

01:07:55.000 They're trying to come out and have to admit a lot.

01:07:57.000 Okay, the Bilderberg Group does want world government.

01:08:00.000 But it's good.

01:08:01.000 We should all be for it.

01:08:03.000 We're shifting the paradigm.

01:08:04.000 The Renaissance is here.

01:08:06.000 And somebody who was at the tip of the spear and still is to this day is Mike Rivero.

01:08:10.000 So let's talk about the real alternative media.

01:08:13.000 Talk about Savage.

01:08:14.000 You were just mentioning him during the break.

01:08:16.000 I was just talking about that last week on air.

01:08:18.000 So I guess our minds think alike.

01:08:20.000 And then let's get into the latest torture, latest 9-11, latest Iraq news.

01:08:24.000 But Michael Rivero, give us your take.

01:08:26.000 Yeah, Savage.

01:08:27.000 The New World Order is taking over.

01:08:28.000 We've got to fight it.

01:08:30.000 Bush is bad.

01:08:31.000 But then he spins it. 1.00

01:08:32.000 Bush is bad because he's not hardcore enough against the evil Muslims. 1.00

01:08:36.000 Well, what's going on is the internet blogs and radio shows like yours and websites like both of ours, we're starting to drive the choosing of news stories. 0.88

01:08:47.000 We've reached the point where our readership has grown to the point where if we run a story, the mainstream media have to look at it.

01:08:54.000 They can't pretend not to see it.

01:08:56.000 And as a result, they're beginning to sort of play catch-up on the direction that we're taking the public awareness.

01:09:01.000 And they're writing articles about that and admitting it!

01:09:04.000 They're panicking!

01:09:05.000 Yes, they absolutely are, because, you know, they are ultimately revenue-driven, and every time they lose readers to the blog, they're losing advertising revenues.

01:09:12.000 They've been caught across the board falsifying their numbers.

01:09:15.000 Well, they have.

01:09:16.000 In fact, several times we had a local ad agency.

01:09:19.000 I'm not going to say who it is, because I still do work for them from time to time, but they just had to lose some of their executives for Yes, it's pretty bad.

01:09:34.000 And what they're trying to do now is sort of hop onto the bandwagon that people like you and I have set and say, okay, this is the way the political winds are blowing.

01:09:42.000 They've got their fingers up in the air and they're saying, okay, It's going this way.

01:09:46.000 We can't stop it.

01:09:47.000 We can't control it.

01:09:48.000 We might as well hop on and try and build our business back up going with it.

01:09:52.000 And co-opt it.

01:09:53.000 Yeah, co-opt it.

01:09:54.000 Well, they've been trying to do that, but it's still not working that well, and I think we're going to see over time... Because once somebody's had filet mignon, they try to give them some ground hamburger, claiming it's meat, and it's got fungus all over it, because they'll tell a little bit of the truth, but then spin it, people see right through that.

01:10:11.000 They do now, they absolutely do.

01:10:13.000 People are really relying on their own minds and that I think is the most positive thing to come out of the alternative media.

01:10:20.000 I heartily agree.

01:10:21.000 I mean, we were talking about the Jeff Gannons, the fake bloggers paid by the White House in there at midnight servicing.

01:10:28.000 We can get into, yeah, we can get into people like Armstrong Williams, but look, I even know local radio stations that are getting payola, running paid stuff like it's news.

01:10:38.000 The hundreds of millions in fake newscasts, that's only the tip of the iceberg.

01:10:42.000 That absolutely is the tip of the iceberg.

01:10:43.000 It's really been going on a lot longer than has recently been admitted to.

01:10:48.000 It has been going on, I mean, at least back to the 60s is when I was first aware of it and during Vietnam, when a lot of the news about that war was being pre-packaged by the government and handed to the networks as a completed tape.

01:11:00.000 So, it's an old phenomenon.

01:11:03.000 What is new is that the public knows it's being done.

01:11:05.000 And you know, propaganda is a lot like a magic show.

01:11:08.000 The people don't have to know how the magician did the trick, but if they know he did something, that's just as bad.

01:11:14.000 They won't believe what the trick is that was being presented to them.

01:11:18.000 And that's going on right now, where the public sees the little spin tricks, they see the little deceptions.

01:11:23.000 Some big polls came out last week.

01:11:25.000 The vast majority of Americans believe it's all lies.

01:11:28.000 Absolutely.

01:11:29.000 I looked at that Gallup poll and I just said, yee-haw, this was a vindication of all the years of... To be specific, people need to get a little more sophisticated.

01:11:36.000 People always ask when we use mainstream news, you're saying it's bad, well then why are you using it?

01:11:40.000 This is what we do.

01:11:42.000 They'll take an article about torture and say how it's good, well that's just spin.

01:11:46.000 We unspin it and say, no, this is why we say it's not good.

01:11:49.000 What do you think?

01:11:49.000 Then there's news where there's outright lies, where they'll put in a bunch of false info.

01:11:53.000 Then they lie by omission.

01:11:55.000 That's another form of lying.

01:11:56.000 What we do is take an article where they say a bill does this, we go read the bill, and post at the top, the subsection, show how they're lying.

01:12:03.000 So there's five or six different types of news, isn't there?

01:12:06.000 Then there's also real reporters doing real news that never gets off the newswire into newspapers.

01:12:11.000 What your site and my site and other sites do, we take those little-known stories that are true by good reporters who wonder why they're always out in the middle of the boondocks, Absolutely.

01:12:25.000 We're giving the attention to what the people need to know.

01:12:28.000 And the other thing, of course, is that you and I will take facts from different stories and put them together and say, okay, these both cannot be true.

01:12:36.000 Therefore, one of these two sources is being less than truthful with the public.

01:12:40.000 And that is the strongest method that we have to basically call attention to what is... Okay, case in point.

01:12:46.000 Case in point, Professor.

01:12:48.000 Here's an example.

01:12:49.000 We have a high-level interrogator, interpreter, talking about the torture, the sexual torture, the PCs, all of this.

01:12:58.000 We have General Rick Baucus quitting, refusing to torture people two and a half years ago.

01:13:02.000 Head of Camp X-Ray.

01:13:03.000 We have all these examples.

01:13:05.000 We have all the people they're releasing saying the same story.

01:13:08.000 We have the government admitting it.

01:13:09.000 We have Alberto Gonzalez's memos admitting it.

01:13:12.000 But then, Newsweek on purpose comes out, reports putting the Koran in the toilet, then withdraws the story, even though that stuff goes on.

01:13:20.000 This particular might not be true.

01:13:22.000 They try to discredit the whole ball of wax.

01:13:25.000 Break that down for us.

01:13:26.000 Well, I think what happened, I'm not sure why Newsweek decided to run the story just now, the original story just now, because it had been reported many, many times before.

01:13:35.000 Well, that's the point.

01:13:36.000 It's an old news story, so they're just reporting it to them withdrawn, so people, when they hear us talk about it, go, oh no, that's been discredited.

01:13:42.000 Well, that may be it, but what I think happened is they weren't expecting such a negative reaction to the story.

01:13:47.000 Not necessarily in the Muslim world, but a lot of Americans were saying to themselves, how would I feel if my holy religious texts were being thrown in the toilet?

01:13:57.000 No, they do do trial balloons, you're right, because under P20G, Rumsfeld wants to enrage the Muslims, that's why they release the prisoners, so they do go tell the story, but now you're saying it's leaking back in here. 0.59

01:14:09.000 I think it's produced a negative reaction inside the United States, as the original torture scandal itself did, where the Americans are saying, wait, we can't support this.

01:14:17.000 And again, we were shown a fraction of what they really did.

01:14:22.000 I'm sure we will never find out all that was done, or has been done, in the name of the United States.

01:14:27.000 Well, they admit there's 2,000 plus photos and over 100 videos we weren't allowed to see.

01:14:31.000 Yeah, we're such children, we can never be allowed to know what the government has been doing with our tax dollars. 0.64

01:14:35.000 But they admit beating people to death, raping people.

01:14:38.000 I mean, that's in Togumbo's report.

01:14:41.000 It absolutely is, and if you look back, this was all the stuff that, as growing up as a kid, I was told this is what Nazi Germany was doing, and ooh, they were bad, and we were good to go stop them from doing it. 0.55

01:14:52.000 So now, all of a sudden, we're reversed, and our government is now engaging in these sorts of practices.

01:14:57.000 What about Savage?

01:14:58.000 You've seen a shift in him, though.

01:14:59.000 That shows they're desperate.

01:15:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:15:02.000 Michael Savage, about a year ago, was going on that anybody who even questioned the President in a time of war... Should be put in a FEMA account.

01:15:08.000 Absolutely.

01:15:09.000 And now we're, so you know, Michael Savage has his finger up in the air and he knows the political winds are shifting and he's starting to trend more towards saying, well, maybe Bush isn't right and maybe he did lie and so forth.

01:15:20.000 He's still trying to put a positive pro-Bush, pro-GOP, Yeah, I heard him three years ago.

01:15:26.000 He switches back and forth.

01:15:27.000 Three years ago, Bush's New World Order, but he's decided to fight it, so be with Bush.

01:15:32.000 He's fighting the New World Order. 0.94

01:15:33.000 It's ridiculous, Spin. 0.89

01:15:34.000 They're trying to use the labels, but it's not working. 0.52

01:15:37.000 No, it really isn't, because ultimately people are learning how to sort through all the labels and get down to what the actual facts are, and that fact is really what it's about.

01:15:45.000 And what are the facts?

01:15:47.000 Well, the facts are right now that Bush has lied to the American people to start a war of conquest against a nation that did absolutely nothing wrong to us.

01:15:57.000 And I think... And he was told to invade Kuwait to begin with.

01:16:01.000 Absolutely.

01:16:02.000 Well, that whole Desert Storm 1 supposedly took care of that.

01:16:05.000 The current war in Iraq was started completely on a lie, and it's important to understand that when Bush started the invasion of Iraq, he did so by telling Congress that he had proof that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

01:16:19.000 But now Rumsfeld says he never said that, and it's an urban legend.

01:16:22.000 No, no, no, because it's in the letter of Trans-Civil.

01:16:24.000 He said it hundreds of times on TV!

01:16:27.000 But if you go back to Bush's actual letter to Congress, he sets it down in writing and signs his... Well, he said it in a State of the Union.

01:16:34.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:16:35.000 But legally, because he lied in that letter to Congress, that makes the war in Iraq illegal.

01:16:41.000 Bill Clinton lied to a grand jury and got called in in front of a grand jury and impeachment began.

01:16:45.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:16:46.000 We should be doing more than that to Bush, because in this case we're talking about a lie that has resulted in the deaths of 1,600 Americans.

01:16:54.000 It's more than that now.

01:16:56.000 Well, it's always going to be more than the number we have at hand because it is, it's going up.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, they report six months later, yeah.

01:17:03.000 But don't you think Bush is going to go ahead and blow up some more stuff and then go ahead and get his draft and see, I was right, shut up? 0.98

01:17:09.000 I think that's why they're so arrogant. 0.58

01:17:11.000 Well, I think they're arrogant because there's a great unwillingness to really look at how bad the situation is deteriorating.

01:17:18.000 That and their ivory tower, exactly.

01:17:20.000 Exactly.

01:17:21.000 I'm not even sure Bush yet knows about those latest Gallup numbers about how many people think he deliberately lied about Iraq, but they're pushing forward for this next campaign in Iran They don't have the support of the rank-and-file military.

01:17:34.000 They're not going to have the support of the American people.

01:17:37.000 But they're on this real huge rush because I think the plan is that Israel wants an excuse to be able to bomb the Iranian reactor complex. 1.00

01:17:44.000 Israel doesn't care if we look like idiots. 0.99

01:17:46.000 They don't care if we do all the work for them. 1.00

01:17:48.000 They'll just sit it out and watch the dumb giant, the retarded giant, go do all the work for them. 1.00

01:17:53.000 Well, there's definitely that aspect of it, but the important part about the reactor is they have to bomb it before it's fueled, or the resulting disaster will make Chernobyl look like a Sunday picnic. 0.98

01:18:03.000 So that is the big rush and the big push.

01:18:05.000 But what's going to stop them?

01:18:06.000 I mean, they already used DU all over the place.

01:18:09.000 Why not?

01:18:09.000 Well, this is a different kind of radiation.

01:18:12.000 You're talking about huge radiation clouds.

01:18:13.000 Yeah, we're talking huge radiation clouds of gamma emitters and drifting all across the ocean.

01:18:17.000 By the way, it blows straight towards the U.S., whereas Chernobyl blew south, this will blow right at us.

01:18:22.000 This will blow all over the place.

01:18:25.000 We'll be feeling the radiation from a bombed reactor all over the planet.

01:18:28.000 So Israel's goal is to find an excuse to bomb that reactor before the Russians fuel it. 0.81

01:18:34.000 And they may fuel it by the end of summer?

01:18:36.000 They're planning on fueling it by the end of summer and that's why we're hearing out of inside forces in Washington D.C.

01:18:41.000 that the war in Iran has to crank up in June.

01:18:44.000 So look for a dirty bomb or something to get blown up real soon, folks.

01:18:50.000 And you know who'll be behind that. 0.94

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01:23:09.000 We're talking to Michael Rivero, WhatReallyHappened.com.

01:23:14.000 Let's get into the real numbers.

01:23:16.000 I mean, 42% in the last couple of months with the Army falling on its recruitment numbers, and they already lowered the hurdle, what, three or four times in the last few years.

01:23:27.000 The other services are having the same problem.

01:23:29.000 I've got a London Independent article about masses of people going AWOL.

01:23:33.000 They're breathing DU.

01:23:34.000 They're finding out how they were scammed.

01:23:37.000 But they still want to go into Iran.

01:23:39.000 What do you see happening?

01:23:40.000 Well, I don't think there's any way that the U.S.

01:23:43.000 is going to be able to go into Iran without bringing back the draft, and as we know, the offices are already set up and running to be able to crank up a draft on almost no notice at all.

01:23:52.000 The bills are introduced, but you're a conspiracy theorist, so talk about it!

01:23:55.000 Yeah, the bills are already introduced, the actual Selective Service Boards are up and running as we speak, and it's very obvious that we don't even have enough troops to support the wars we already have going in Afghanistan and Iraq.

01:24:08.000 let alone engaging another major front with Iran.

01:24:12.000 Well, David Ray Griffin was asked the question on C-SPAN, and on the show, I said, do you think we'll carry out a terror attack?

01:24:17.000 And he goes, yeah.

01:24:17.000 I mean, everybody I've talked to agrees that's the catalyst.

01:24:21.000 And the military said, yeah, there's another attack.

01:24:23.000 We're going to be able to have this draft.

01:24:25.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:24:26.000 Bush needs to have another phony terror attack.

01:24:29.000 Where and when, of course, is a matter of some speculation.

01:24:33.000 But the really critical thing here is that, at least as far as Iraq is concerned, the war is illegal and I'm not sure why any serving military person feels that they're legally obligated to remain there.

01:24:46.000 Yeah, Congress said that there was a clear and present danger he had authorization, but he's clearly violated the enacting document, which itself was a fraud, so where do you go?

01:24:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:24:56.000 Well, the big problem, of course, is Congress itself is unwilling to go back and prosecute the President for what is clearly a high crime of lying to Congress.

01:25:06.000 Premeditatedly ordering the CIA to lie.

01:25:09.000 And then they wouldn't lie, so they created their own little Pentagon office to lie.

01:25:12.000 Absolutely, and of course that little Pentagon office now lies at the heart of the ongoing investigation into the AIPAC and Israeli spying.

01:25:22.000 And again folks, half the people in Israel in major polls are against all this.

01:25:25.000 I'm not against Israel itself, but I am against being used by this corrupt regime to do their dirty work.

01:25:31.000 There's a lot of other things, oil companies and weapon sales play into it, but in the final equation, I've read Israeli war documents from the early 80s that are published in Israeli papers, and it's exactly what we're doing today!

01:25:44.000 You agree, Mike?

01:25:45.000 Yeah, absolutely, I agree.

01:25:47.000 We're definitely looking at a certain portion of the American government clearly has a divided or dual loyalty.

01:25:54.000 And to go back to some of the religious documents that the far right likes to quote from, no man can serve two masters.

01:26:01.000 And we clearly have a case of portions of our government who are thinking more in terms of Israel's well-being than the well-being of this nation right here.

01:26:10.000 And that, I think, is tremendously dangerous.

01:26:12.000 Well, why didn't Israel send their troops into Iraq?

01:26:15.000 Well, first of all, I don't think they have enough.

01:26:18.000 Second of all, I think if they overtly went into Iraq, I think all the other Arab nations would have instantly united against them. 0.54

01:26:26.000 And Israel, even with its nuclear arsenal, would not be able to withstand a united Middle East against them because Israel is itself physically a very, very small country. 0.80

01:26:37.000 Okay.

01:26:39.000 Well, they've got 400 nukes.

01:26:41.000 Now, again, in this whole equation, they want to go into Iran.

01:26:45.000 I've got family in the military.

01:26:47.000 They've been told they're going into Iran.

01:26:49.000 Give us your predictions.

01:26:51.000 Well, again, it's all being driven by the schedule for completion of that nuclear reactor.

01:26:57.000 Once it is fueled, it cannot be bombed without causing tremendous health and environmental damage across the entire Mideast, including the oil field.

01:27:05.000 So they had to fuel the Tammuz reactor in 1981 in Iraq?

01:27:09.000 No, they haven't fueled it yet.

01:27:11.000 Israel bombed it just weeks before it was ready to be fueled.

01:27:14.000 And they said, we're going to bomb it.

01:27:16.000 Yes, they have stated repeatedly that they're going to bomb the reactor.

01:27:20.000 Now, they've totally given up their sovereignty.

01:27:21.000 They've got more UN inspectors than anybody.

01:27:23.000 They let them do whatever they want.

01:27:25.000 This is totally peaceful, cannot be used for weapons.

01:27:27.000 Our government gives systems through Rumsfeld that can be for North Korea, but that's not a problem. 0.71

01:27:32.000 We've got to get Iran, but they've done nothing wrong. 1.00

01:27:36.000 They have done nothing wrong in terms of the nuclear reactor, which is a power station, and it is open to inspection.

01:27:42.000 Anybody can come look at it.

01:27:44.000 This is a far cry, of course, from Israel's reactor complex at Dimona.

01:27:47.000 But the real issue behind all of this is that Iran was planning to start its own oil brokerage institution, which was going to trade in euros rather than dollars.

01:27:58.000 This is what Iraq was also getting ready to do shortly before the invasion there.

01:28:03.000 And this, of course, is a major problem for the U.S.

01:28:06.000 economy, because the demand for dollars to buy oil is partly what's propping up the value of the dollar overseas.

01:28:14.000 So it's already softening?

01:28:16.000 Oh, it's very much softening, and if the oil powers go to the euro, it will definitely put a downward pressure on the dollar.

01:28:22.000 Which is already down by over 40% in the last three years.

01:28:24.000 Absolutely.

01:28:27.000 Unbelievable.

01:28:28.000 So, do you think we're going to see an attack?

01:28:30.000 I think there's no question that Bush is going to try and get us into a war in Iran somehow.

01:28:34.000 The only question is, how is he going to do it? 0.90

01:28:36.000 So we're just waiting for Iranian terrorists to go into a school and kill 100 children? 0.99

01:28:40.000 Yes, or blow up a bridge, or... We're on the march. 0.99

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01:34:46.000 And then I want to get briefly into 9-11 and some of the latest developments there and then take calls.

01:34:52.000 Well, obviously in Iraq, the biggest threat facing our kids, besides the fact that the Iraqi people don't want the United States in their country, has been the depleted uranium munitions.

01:35:04.000 Now, in their original form as supplied to the troops, they're relatively harmless, because depleted uranium is primarily an alpha emitter.

01:35:11.000 But when they are employed in combat, these munitions will vaporize, and this produces a cloud of uranium oxide, which can be inhaled, And once it's inhaled and in your lungs, of course, now it's inside your body and this alpha radiation over a long period of time can cause tremendous health deterioration.

01:35:32.000 And even new scientists and others have done the CAT scans of the lungs.

01:35:35.000 It's a fog.

01:35:36.000 Just the heavy metal nature alone is highly destructive to cells.

01:35:42.000 Yeah, the uranium itself is a very toxic metal, even if it were somehow not radioactive.

01:35:48.000 So we're seeing the troops from, like, the first Desert Storm War are having a very high incidence of birth defects in the children that they are now having.

01:35:55.000 But in 44 billion years, everything will be okay.

01:35:59.000 Yeah, the half-life of depleted uranium is extraordinarily long.

01:36:03.000 The planet Earth and the people of planet Earth are going to be dealing with all of this radioactivity that was dropped all over Iraq and Afghanistan for as long as we're going to be here.

01:36:12.000 And Serbia and ten proving grounds in the U.S.

01:36:15.000 Exactly.

01:36:17.000 And they're continuing to use these munitions.

01:36:20.000 And what it effectively is, is they're taking radioactive waste from U.S.

01:36:25.000 reactor development, and they're using it as a weapon in order to drop it all over somebody else's real estate.

01:36:30.000 And let them deal with the health consequences.

01:36:32.000 Permanently salting the earth.

01:36:33.000 Now, in the first Cold War, they used, what, 1,000 tons?

01:36:36.000 They used 3,000-plus tons this time.

01:36:38.000 That's conservative.

01:36:40.000 And we have triple the birth defects now, that's the official numbers in our people and the Iraqi people.

01:36:44.000 Now, the numbers two years after the liberation are coming in, they're even worse than that.

01:36:48.000 It may be a tripling on the tripling, whatever that comes to mathematically, and they're having the same thing in Serbia six years after, having the same thing three years after in Afghanistan, but this time we didn't just bomb the desert, our government bombed all these bases where our troops then moved in.

01:37:07.000 Absolutely, and our kids are sitting there, they're breathing this stuff, and I know there's a tremendous push in the media about, do they have enough body armor?

01:37:15.000 That's really not the issue.

01:37:17.000 Every single one of our kids are coming home from the Mideast with lungs full of this mildly radioactive material, and they're contaminating their own families, they're contaminating their own homes, and it's very low-level. 0.90

01:37:28.000 You know, we're not seeing things glow in the dark, but over the course of several years... The New York Daily News tested the blood of 14 servicemen last year and found upwards of two rims of radiation.

01:37:41.000 Absolutely, and over the course of several years, the health effects from this are going to be debilitating and we're already seeing the Veterans Administration trying to distance itself from these medical conditions.

01:37:52.000 The whole Gulf War Syndrome issue may in fact have been symptoms from chronic low-level radiation exposure and the government does not want to have to pay the medical costs from all of this because we're talking about cancer and leukemia which are the most expensive illnesses that you can come down with.

01:38:07.000 Well the particleized element is also so heavy that it actually pierces the cell wall I mean, we've had Dr. Rocky many times wrote the book on DU, and so it just goes right through the cell wall by itself and destroys the DNA.

01:38:22.000 Absolutely.

01:38:23.000 It absolutely does, and that's the reason we're seeing such an epidemic of cancers and birth defects.

01:38:28.000 And by the way, we're also registering higher levels of it here now.

01:38:33.000 It's blowing right over.

01:38:34.000 Absolutely.

01:38:35.000 Long-term monitoring of the background radiation.

01:38:38.000 I mean, we're still picking up radiation from the above-ground tests in the 1950s, and now we're starting to see a very gradual increase as the radioactivity from the depleted uranium weapons circles the globe, carried by the winds.

01:38:49.000 And so, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, when you're on your knees, vomiting your guts out, Yeah, you can't eat and you're on all these cancer therapies, troops.

01:38:58.000 Remember, we tried to save you before this even happened.

01:39:01.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:39:02.000 Absolutely.

01:39:02.000 But we don't have to wait ten years, it's already happening.

01:39:05.000 Yeah, it is happening right now, but it's only going to get worse in the future because the DU that is already there is there Permanently.

01:39:12.000 We're not going to get it back.

01:39:13.000 By then it'll just be a footnote.

01:39:15.000 It'll be a footnote in the newspaper.

01:39:16.000 Oh, yeah, it was a problem.

01:39:17.000 We won't do it anymore.

01:39:18.000 Yeah, well, yes, they will do it because we went through this once before with some of the weapons that were used in World War II.

01:39:25.000 Oh, we'll never use them again.

01:39:26.000 And we're using them again.

01:39:28.000 So... I'll tell you, but I mean, the globalists, this stuff blows on them.

01:39:32.000 I mean, I know there's like one member of Congress with a son in Iraq, but still, I mean, why do they... They could have used other munitions.

01:39:41.000 Well, that's a real big question.

01:39:43.000 I think it was used simply because the material was there.

01:39:45.000 It was plentiful.

01:39:46.000 It was very cheap.

01:39:47.000 It was either use it in bullets or throw it away.

01:39:50.000 And that's really what it came down to.

01:39:51.000 Well, it's like sodium fluoride.

01:39:53.000 They had all that extra stuff, so they said, we'll just put it in the water.

01:39:57.000 Absolutely.

01:39:58.000 And as a metal to be used in munitions and penetrators, depleted uranium does have advantages over lead.

01:40:05.000 And that was what was very attractive to people designing armor-piercing munitions.

01:40:11.000 But it goes to the mindset of the controllers.

01:40:13.000 Absolutely.

01:40:14.000 Let's win the war now and we'll let the next administration worry about the after effects. 1.00

01:40:19.000 But, I mean, this is the crew who wants many nukes now.

01:40:24.000 I mean...

01:40:25.000 They're already starting to develop them and there is already a question if some of the so-called bunker buster bombs that have been employed in Iraq were already micronukes in their own right.

01:40:36.000 There have been reports of, especially in Fallujah, of whole blocks being bulldozed and the soil and wreckage of the homes being driven out to the desert and buried in secret locations, which is what we saw at Waco and Oklahoma City and also portions of the World Trade Towers.

01:40:54.000 Oh boy, not good.

01:40:55.000 We already talked about the draft, but I've got a report here about everything breaking down.

01:41:05.000 Well, here's an article in the Independent Today, the deserters, AWOL crisis hits the U.S.

01:41:09.000 forces as the death toll of troops amounts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:41:13.000 America's military recruiting figures have plummeted to an all-time low.

01:41:18.000 Thousands of U.S.

01:41:19.000 servicemen and women are now refusing to serve their country.

01:41:22.000 Andrew Bokum reports, and it talks about how masses of troops, thousands are going AWOL.

01:41:30.000 Well, again, I think if you look at the fact that the Iraq War is illegal, totally, then somebody needs to explain the legal precedent under which those troops should be staying over there anyway.

01:41:43.000 The example I used in my website earlier today is if you're contracted to move the contents of Warehouse A to Warehouse B, and then you find out that the person who contracted you doesn't actually own the contents of Warehouse A, Would any court enforce you to continue serving that contract when the foundation or the premise that it's based on turns out to be illegal?

01:42:03.000 Well, when the troops read their handbooks on how they're supposed to conduct themselves, all of it's being violated.

01:42:08.000 5,133 troops are now AWOL.

01:42:08.000 233 troops are now AWOL of 1,297.

01:42:14.000 This is the government's own numbers.

01:42:15.000 It's much worse.

01:42:16.000 Are Marines.

01:42:17.000 2,376 are Army.

01:42:20.000 1,410 the Navy.

01:42:22.000 And 50 Air Force.

01:42:25.000 Those numbers are very striking and frankly I gotta say, you know, good for them because they recognize There is a contract between the American government and the military that the military are to be used and sent into harm's way only in certain conditions.

01:42:38.000 Well, it's the old thing with the Nazis, just following orders doesn't do it. 0.89

01:42:42.000 No, and we've never built our country on the follow orders without question.

01:42:46.000 The military has always been told they do have a moral right to refuse what they consider to be illegal or immoral.

01:42:52.000 Well, it's like Operation Phoenix and the My Lai Massacre.

01:42:55.000 Absolutely.

01:42:56.000 I mean, you say no, you don't blow that five-year-old's head off.

01:42:58.000 No!

01:42:59.000 And you're going to be on the right, but not today.

01:43:01.000 They go, no, you've got to do what we say.

01:43:04.000 Well, they're trying to enforce that, but obviously by these AWOL numbers, they're failing to do so.

01:43:08.000 We may see a repeat of the private Slovic kind of situation to try and get the troops back in line.

01:43:16.000 And I would say probably following the next stage terror event and the restoration of the draft, we will probably see that kind of stern measures taken.

01:43:24.000 Lots of public show trials, persecution. 0.99

01:43:27.000 They'll just grab somebody as an example, put them up against a wall and shoot them to let the troops know that, yes, you'd better go in and kill who we say to kill. 0.90

01:43:35.000 Well, I'm told, I've seen mainstream articles that there's already special gangs of troops that go around beating up and killing people that don't go along. 0.74

01:43:42.000 Yeah, that would not surprise me at all to see that kind of thing.

01:43:45.000 We saw that in Vietnam as well.

01:43:48.000 But it's not gonna...

01:43:51.000 How did the Pentagon, I mean I think they did this by design, they won a quagmire there, when they told the troops if somebody gets caught stealing a stick of wood, run over their family car with a tank and then laugh at them in front of thousands of onlookers, I mean that doesn't win hearts and minds.

01:44:05.000 No it doesn't.

01:44:05.000 I don't know that the Pentagon really wanted Iraq to become a quagmire.

01:44:09.000 I think the Pentagon and a lot of other knowledgeable observers We're warning all along that Iraq would be a quagmire.

01:44:15.000 So you think in their ivory towers they're totally delusional?

01:44:17.000 I absolutely think, well we've already seen that Bush is not told bad news and negative news.

01:44:22.000 He says, I don't read the newspaper.

01:44:24.000 And he's shielded by his immediate staff in the White House.

01:44:28.000 Absolutely.

01:44:30.000 I would almost be willing to bet a whole five cents here that he doesn't know about those galleons.

01:44:33.000 Did you know Germany really lost the war because for three years when stuff would go bad, they wouldn't tell the Fuhrer? 0.86

01:44:37.000 Absolutely.

01:44:38.000 And at the end, he was ordering armies into combat that did not exist and nobody dared tell him.

01:44:43.000 And I think we are seeing a little bit of that now at the Bush.

01:44:46.000 But I think the Bushes know that.

01:44:48.000 I think the controllers of the puppet Bush know that.

01:44:50.000 I think that's why they're going to have a terror attack, escalate into Iran, because they've either got a Ponzi scheme, expand or it implodes. 0.78

01:44:58.000 If not, it's going to be like Vietnam with people jumping on helicopters off rooftops. 0.96

01:45:02.000 Absolutely.

01:45:03.000 I think it's going to end up that way anyway, because in my honest opinion, unless Bush is willing to use weapons of mass destruction in Iran, he can't win that war.

01:45:12.000 Because Iran has a very modern, well-equipped army.

01:45:15.000 They're certainly far more capable than Iraq was. 1.00

01:45:18.000 They've now strengthened their mutual defense ties with Azerbaijan, which means there's a lot more territory to have to cover.

01:45:24.000 So I don't think Iran is a winnable war. 0.57

01:45:28.000 Certainly not when the troops going in know that it's all based on yet another set of hoaxes and lies.

01:45:33.000 But they hit Chicago with a nuke, Michael.

01:45:36.000 We've got to do it for America.

01:45:38.000 Bush will cry by his lip.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:41.000 They did it.

01:45:42.000 They killed our people. 0.71

01:45:44.000 Well, I just, you know, I just keep looking for somebody to make a really big mistake that is so horrendous that even the mainstream media can't look the other way.

01:45:53.000 But the mainstream media is owned by the same military-industrial complex that wants this.

01:45:57.000 Let's talk to Heidi in Texas. 1.00

01:45:59.000 We're in for interesting times, boys and girls.

01:46:01.000 Heidi in Texas, go ahead.

01:46:03.000 Alex, it's not Heidi, but it's Richard.

01:46:06.000 Okay, Richard.

01:46:07.000 And Heidi and I were concerned about the same topic, and she tried to call you last week.

01:46:12.000 Okay, then you're on the phone for Heidi.

01:46:14.000 Yes.

01:46:15.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:46:15.000 Okay, it's about open borders.

01:46:18.000 And I see it as a problem that is explainable as the Hegelian dialectic, Alex.

01:46:27.000 Yeah, they create the crisis, then we all gotta have national ID cards, then they just legalize the illegal.

01:46:31.000 Well look, here's how I identify it.

01:46:34.000 The problem is open borders.

01:46:36.000 That's the first problem.

01:46:38.000 The reaction is the formation of groups like the Minutemen.

01:46:43.000 And then the government is going to take that as a reason to close the borders, put up fences with dark towers and stuff like that.

01:46:53.000 No, Bush is proposing total amnesty.

01:46:57.000 Well, see, that's part of the problem.

01:47:00.000 That's the first problem, not the reaction.

01:47:03.000 Just what's your point?

01:47:05.000 My point is, Alex, is that by pushing the reaction to this problem that the government is coming up with, and that isn't the only problem that the government is coming up with, they're also, you know, as you know, requiring hospitals to treat these guys.

01:47:19.000 But anyway, that's still the problem.

01:47:21.000 The reaction is the things like the middlemen and And they are using people like you to push it.

01:47:29.000 The government is going to give us a solution, and are we going to like the solution?

01:47:33.000 And as that woman asked, what happens if they turn that solution back on us?

01:47:37.000 As that woman asked, I'm really confused.

01:47:40.000 She said, she said, what will happen?

01:47:42.000 Number one, why did you just, we don't screen the calls, why didn't you just use your real name?

01:47:46.000 It was Heidi who called, first of all, but she had to leave.

01:47:49.000 Okay, now I understand.

01:47:50.000 You bring up some other woman, I don't... Listen, thanks for the call, sir.

01:47:54.000 I'm going to say something on this right now.

01:47:57.000 You know, if we have a problem with 30 million illegals, and we want to bring another 30 million in, driving down our wages, being used as a political bloc, and we need to control the borders and control these illegals, it isn't then my fault that the government uses a false solution. 0.66

01:48:12.000 Okay?

01:48:13.000 And I said they'd do that, and I was against this National ID Card.

01:48:16.000 So then it's not my fault that I'm exposing this.

01:48:21.000 I don't know if Michael Rivero has any comments on this.

01:48:24.000 Well, I think my only comment to add to that is all these individuals are coming over the border right now.

01:48:29.000 They think they're getting a great opportunity, but they're going to be the first ones picked up in that draft when they're granted their amnesty.

01:48:36.000 25% of the troops in Iraq were illegal aliens.

01:48:38.000 They're given instant quasi-citizenship when they get in there.

01:48:41.000 That's right.

01:48:42.000 This is the new Hessian army.

01:48:45.000 Absolutely.

01:48:46.000 Absolutely.

01:48:47.000 And so for anybody who's listening across the border, It is not the sweet deal you're being told it is, because you're going to come up here to the United States and you're going to find yourself over in the deserts of the Mideast.

01:48:58.000 Who's up next here?

01:49:01.000 Daryl in France, go ahead.

01:49:02.000 Hi Alex, nice to talk to you Alex.

01:49:05.000 I had a couple of points I wanted to make.

01:49:08.000 This stuff is happening worldwide, Michael.

01:49:10.000 I read your site every day.

01:49:12.000 There's no question that you're the best news site on the net for the news flow, along with Alex's site.

01:49:19.000 You know, I wanted to touch on something that you haven't treated.

01:49:23.000 Penn and Teller actually did a hit piece on Eric Huffschmid.

01:49:28.000 It was unbelievable.

01:49:29.000 You had to see this hit piece to believe it.

01:49:33.000 They're talking about throwing people down flights of stairs if you see them with his book.

01:49:38.000 It was amazing.

01:49:39.000 I guarantee you that's a paid deal.

01:49:44.000 Stay there.

01:49:44.000 We'll get a comment from our guest on the other side.

01:49:47.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:52:49.000 You can't back down.

01:53:05.000 These people want to enslave you.

01:53:07.000 It's human history repeating itself again.

01:53:11.000 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

01:53:14.000 Now I've heard a lot about this Penn & Teller piece and I've checked it out online and just saw the basic synopsis of what it covers, but yeah, I heard they called for violence against people saying the government's involved in 9-11.

01:53:27.000 When they start doing that, you know they're desperate to Michael Rivera.

01:53:34.000 Well, my comment about Penn & Teller, I did in fact comment on the story when it first came out.

01:53:39.000 Penn & Teller, you have to remember, their claim to fame, how they became well-known and popular, is they were doing shows that exposed magicians' secrets.

01:53:49.000 They made a lot of money doing it and they became very popular, but of course they were inflicting a lot of damage on professional magicians.

01:53:56.000 Which, at the time, I was one.

01:53:57.000 That's how I paid for my college education.

01:54:00.000 I did nightclubs and cruise ships and all sorts of stuff.

01:54:04.000 And having that mindset helped you see the globalist sorcery?

01:54:08.000 Yeah, in a way, it has taught me how to look from its direction.

01:54:12.000 But back to Penn & Teller, of course, their act was very harmful to other entertainers who were working in professional magic.

01:54:18.000 And, but this is, this is how they built up their, their reputation in their career was giving all the secrets away.

01:54:23.000 Then after that wore off and they got tired of it, they've sort of coasted along for a while.

01:54:27.000 And this looks like not only as you say, a paid for hatchet job, but it's another attempt to put their name back into the headlines.

01:54:36.000 Well, they should get in trouble for calling for violence.

01:54:38.000 Wait till somebody does get pushed downstairs. 0.97

01:54:40.000 Well, unfortunately, the people who call for violence against the people the government does not like seldom get prosecuted for it.

01:54:47.000 The laws of the anti-terror legislation are definitely being very selectively enforced.

01:54:52.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:54:53.000 I mean, issuing fake terror alerts is a terrorist action, because it really is.

01:54:57.000 But, oh, Bush can issue fake alerts. 0.81

01:54:59.000 Let's talk to Willie in Michigan.

01:55:01.000 You're on the air.

01:55:01.000 Go ahead, Willie.

01:55:02.000 Alex, how are you doing?

01:55:03.000 It's been a long time talking to you.

01:55:05.000 Good to hear from you, Willie.

01:55:06.000 What's on your mind?

01:55:07.000 Well, I've got your new tape, you know.

01:55:11.000 Oh, thank you.

01:55:12.000 I've been doing a lot of recording it for others.

01:55:14.000 What'd you think of it?

01:55:15.000 It's great.

01:55:16.000 Especially the best you put out.

01:55:18.000 The best.

01:55:19.000 But what I wanted to say about this so-called rap, these people don't have to, there's no law for these, there's no law to rap anyone.

01:55:27.000 So we don't have to go if nobody has to go to be rapped.

01:55:31.000 Not even during World War II, if they didn't want to go, they could have stayed at home.

01:55:36.000 It's a scare tactic.

01:55:38.000 So these people should understand the laws of the land.

01:55:42.000 We go according to the Constitution.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, there is indentured servitude, and the draft is indentured servitude.

01:55:47.000 It's slavery. 0.97

01:55:48.000 Michael Rivero?

01:55:50.000 Yeah, the draft actually does violate the 13th Amendment to the Constitution.

01:55:55.000 And that's why during the actual draft process, they use the word volunteer.

01:56:00.000 If you step forward, you volunteer for the service.

01:56:03.000 And, uh, you know, if you actually step forward at that point, then legally you have offered your services rather than being, uh... And they say it's a privilege to drive, so you've got to sign this contract saying we can draft you when you get an ID, but it's all done through fraud.

01:56:16.000 It is all done through fraud.

01:56:17.000 The bottom line is that a military draft is a direct violation of the 13th Amendment, and if we're going to be... Well, they're so righteous, they should be able to get the people.

01:56:26.000 Uh, Willie, anything else?

01:56:27.000 That's it.

01:56:28.000 Good to hear from you, my friend.

01:56:29.000 Uh, Lynn, where are you calling from, Lynn?

01:56:32.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

01:56:33.000 Good to talk to you.

01:56:34.000 Where are you calling from?

01:56:35.000 Oklahoma.

01:56:36.000 Go ahead.

01:56:37.000 I got a quick question for you and Michael.

01:56:39.000 If the United States does launch against Iran, doesn't Iran have a mutual defense treaty with Russia, which would mean, in effect, that the United States would be attacking Russia?

01:56:48.000 Yeah, but I think Putin is going to sit that one out.

01:56:51.000 What do you think, Michael?

01:56:52.000 I'm less than sure, because I think Putin realizes that, you know, appeasement does not work.

01:56:57.000 We learned that one in World War II with Neville Chamberlain.

01:57:00.000 And what's really at stake is control of the Mideast oil.

01:57:03.000 Russia does have a lot of oil, but they still need access to the Central Asian... And it's true, they're selling a lot of weapons right now to Iran.

01:57:09.000 They really are, and I think at some point Russia is going to say, look, we've got to stop them, or the U.S. 0.59

01:57:14.000 is going to grab all of it, and then our economy will be trashed. 1.00

01:57:17.000 And so I think ultimately, yes, we are looking at a war with Russia. 0.70

01:57:21.000 I've got another guest coming up in five minutes, but will you do five more minutes to finish these calls?

01:57:24.000 Certainly.

01:57:25.000 All right, stay there, Len in Oklahoma, and we'll talk to Bob in Florida, maybe one other.

01:57:29.000 Then we got Jim Tucker coming on, American Free Press.

01:57:32.000 He went to the Bilderberg Group this year.

01:57:33.000 He'll play that CNN clip where they admit, oh yeah, they want world government, it's good.

01:57:38.000 All coming up the third hour, stay with us.

01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:56.000 You want answers?

01:57:57.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 All right, we're talking to Michael Rivero in the last hour.

01:58:12.000 He'll be with us for a few more minutes.

01:58:13.000 He'll take a few final calls.

01:58:15.000 On the edge of attacking Iran before they can fuel their nuclear reactor. 0.72

01:58:21.000 Bush says they've got nuclear materials.

01:58:23.000 Yeah, for peaceful purposes.

01:58:26.000 All the inspectors are there, which is bad.

01:58:28.000 Either you have inspectors dominating your country, or you get attacked.

01:58:31.000 Or even if you do, you get attacked.

01:58:34.000 This is serious business.

01:58:35.000 Major escalation.

01:58:36.000 They're saying they'll strike back.

01:58:38.000 And, uh, it looks like that'll happen by the end of summer. 0.97

01:58:41.000 When they're gonna fuel that sucker, when the Russians are. 0.99

01:58:43.000 We were just talking about this with Michael Rivero and Lynn in Oklahoma. 0.98

01:58:47.000 Lynn, anything else?

01:58:48.000 No, that was the main thing, Alex.

01:58:49.000 I just wondered how the, uh, Well, the powers that be were going to deal with that angle with the defense treaty that Iran has with Russia, or at least they used to, and I wasn't sure if they still had it.

01:58:58.000 No, they still have the defense pact.

01:59:01.000 OK.

01:59:01.000 All right.

01:59:02.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

01:59:03.000 But I tell you, Bush has sure been spending a lot of time, and so has Sharon, in Russia trying to get things greased.

01:59:11.000 Absolutely, and I think they're trying to offer some kind of a deal to Putin that, hey, we'll let you still have access to this or that many oil fields.

01:59:19.000 I'm not sure how well that's going to fly because there were some deals that Russia had with Iraq.

01:59:25.000 That the U.S. 0.57

01:59:26.000 said would still be in effect if Russia would sit back during the invasion of Iraq.

01:59:30.000 And I'm not sure how that has worked out.

01:59:32.000 Mostly because the U.S.

01:59:34.000 cannot get out of Iraq the oil that they were hoping to be able to extract following the invasion.

01:59:40.000 And now we're paying two and a half bucks an average gallon at 87 octane.

01:59:44.000 Well, it's going to get worse than that because right now Bush is spending $5 billion per month in Iraq to get out $150 million worth of oil.

01:59:54.000 And certainly it would have been far cheaper to simply say to Saddam, OK, we're going to lift the sanctions and we'll buy the oil from you. 0.66

02:00:01.000 And we would have gotten a lot more oil for a lot less money.

02:00:03.000 Exactly.

02:00:04.000 Let's take one final call.

02:00:05.000 Bob in Florida.

02:00:06.000 You're on the air.

02:00:07.000 Hey Alex.

02:00:07.000 How you doing?

02:00:08.000 Good.

02:00:09.000 I've got some quick information.

02:00:11.000 I'm dealing with tyranny at a local level.

02:00:13.000 And I just wanted to let you know that the National Forest here, Athletic Coalition National Forest in Florida, that they've been patrolling it a lot.

02:00:20.000 And I've been talking with some of the patrols out there.

02:00:22.000 And they say upcoming here in their Phase 3 changes.

02:00:24.000 That they're going to cause you to have to have permits on your vehicles when you go in the forest.

02:00:30.000 And each individual that is in that vehicle has to have a permit to go in the forest.

02:00:33.000 Well, everything is going to be IDs and it has nothing to do with terror.

02:00:37.000 It's all about control.

02:00:38.000 Michael Rivero, comments on the new National ID Card?

02:00:41.000 Absolutely.

02:00:42.000 It's about keeping track of people and allowing the federal government direct control over individual lives.

02:00:47.000 Because as we saw, for example, on 9-11, The people who are going to be committing crimes will simply fake the IDs, and that's an aspect of 9-11 most people still don't really pay attention to fully.

02:00:58.000 That Robert Mueller, the head of the FBI, said the people who were actually on those airplanes were using skillfully made fake IDs with stolen identities.

02:01:07.000 So a national ID card is not going to have any impact on terrorism at all.

02:01:11.000 Well, it's not meant to.

02:01:12.000 The government ordered the embassies to let the, quote, Al-Qaeda operatives back in.

02:01:16.000 Absolutely.

02:01:17.000 And then train some of them on U.S.

02:01:19.000 Air Force bases.

02:01:20.000 So they're training you to be good little serfs down in Florida, Bob.

02:01:23.000 And I've been out in the forest and I took a picture of him on a four-wheel drive going down foot trails that only, you know, people aren't allowed to be on, motorized vehicle zone.

02:01:31.000 He got off that four-wheeler and said I had to delete that picture out of my camera or he was going to, I guess, arrest me.

02:01:37.000 Well, that's like the recruiters calling up and saying, show up at the recruiting office or I'll arrest you.

02:01:41.000 I have the warrant right here.

02:01:45.000 I mean, this is all color of law.

02:01:46.000 Isn't that another sign of tyranny, Michael?

02:01:48.000 That absolutely is, where, uh, you know, police have come to fear digital cameras and camcorders and even cell phones with cameras in them now are being banned at certain public events, uh, just in case the police do something that they don't want photographed.

02:02:01.000 Uh, because they realize, once it's out on the net, everybody's going to know about it.

02:02:04.000 But they want cameras on us everywhere, but, ooh, camera, that's bad!

02:02:07.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:02:08.000 Then you might be a terrorist! 0.97

02:02:09.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

02:02:10.000 And, uh, it's really silly.

02:02:12.000 I remember back when, uh, Romania finally got rid of Ceaușescu, and one of the justifications for that was that he'd been putting TV cameras on every street corner to spy on his own people.

02:02:22.000 And that was why it was a good thing that Ceaușescu had been killed.

02:02:25.000 Now all of a sudden, we've got cameras here.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, face-scanning cameras.

02:02:29.000 Michael Rivera, WhatReallyHappened.com.

02:02:31.000 Come back soon!

02:02:31.000 It was great.

02:02:32.000 Certainly I will.

02:02:33.000 Look forward to it.

02:02:34.000 Take care, my friend.

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02:06:44.000 We were talking about the upcoming war with Iran and the launch date for that, unless we're able to expose it before they fuel it in August. 0.73

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02:08:04.000 And then he woke up to the NWO and started covering the Bilderberg Group.

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02:08:10.000 And he climbs through drains and gets arrested and climbs over hedges and gets people inside these five-star resorts to get him intel.

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02:09:34.000 We'll plug that before you leave us at the end of this broadcast.

02:09:36.000 Very good.

02:09:37.000 Now, I was attacked by the New York Times about three years ago as an insane person that believes in a thing called Bilderberg.

02:09:46.000 And Bohemian Grove.

02:09:48.000 Five, six years ago, it didn't exist.

02:09:49.000 You were crazy if you talked about it.

02:09:51.000 Now we've seen them admit it exists, but try to put a pretty spin on it.

02:09:55.000 I think the most blatant thing I ever saw was last year in the New York Times about, yeah, it's a global government body, but they love us.

02:10:01.000 This new piece with John Ronson in Europe aired on BBC.

02:10:04.000 We're about to play it, and I want to get your response to it, but what's it been like seeing the evolution of them first denying it exists, and why do you think they're now having to admit it exists?

02:10:15.000 It was with the help of the European press, which is much less disciplined.

02:10:19.000 The blackout in the United States is quite complete.

02:10:21.000 There's New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post, all the three major networks having been represented on their promise of secrecy.

02:10:29.000 But the European press in the last 10, 15 years has been very energetic.

02:10:35.000 Last year, all over page one of the Italian newspapers.

02:10:38.000 And so they simply had to, in some cases, say we exist.

02:10:42.000 If you somehow got Henry Kissinger or David Rockefeller on the phone right now and said, is there such a group as Bilderberg?

02:10:47.000 They'd say, absolutely not.

02:10:50.000 It's a right-wing mirage.

02:10:52.000 It's a fantasy.

02:10:54.000 So they'll try to suppress as much as possible.

02:10:57.000 There comes a time when they are simply forced to admit that, yes, they do exist, but they're good guys.

02:11:03.000 We should be grateful that they care so much about us.

02:11:06.000 Well, notice in this piece we're about to play, and we'll put you on hold and you can listen to give us your take on it, they use the word conspiracy a lot, right-wing.

02:11:14.000 Oh, they want global government, but It's because they care about us and because they're so centrist, because they really love us and they know what's best.

02:11:23.000 So let's play this piece and then get the grandfather of exposing the Bilderberg Group's response on it.

02:11:29.000 Go ahead and roll that clip.

02:11:30.000 This is from CNN Europe.

02:11:32.000 Here it is.

02:11:33.000 We're up next on World Business Today.

02:11:35.000 You may not have heard of it, but some say Bilderberg is secretly trying to take over the world.

02:11:41.000 We're trying to find out why some of the biggest names in business and politics are currently meeting very discreetly in Germany.

02:11:51.000 Conspiracy or cozy talking shop?

02:11:54.000 The Bilderberg Group is meeting in South Germany this week, at least according to the Financial Times, which says a group of powerful men and women will debate the future of the world.

02:12:04.000 The paper says the steering committee of Bilderberg includes Deutsche Bank boss Josef Ackermann, Nokia CEO Jorma Olala, Daimler Chrysler's Jurgen Schrampp, and outgoing World Bank President James Wolfensohn.

02:12:17.000 I asked John Ronson, who has written about Bilderberg, what it really is.

02:12:22.000 Bilderberg is a meeting of powerful centrists, industrialists and politicians.

02:12:28.000 They always meet in secret once a year in a five-star hotel with golfing facilities and they've taken on the image for conspiracy theorists of the fabled shadowy cabal that secretly rules the world.

02:12:42.000 Are they?

02:12:43.000 Well, yes and no.

02:12:44.000 I mean, they're a bunch of powerful people.

02:12:47.000 They meet in secret.

02:12:48.000 They say we meet in private, which isn't quite the same thing, is it?

02:12:51.000 It's not quite the same thing.

02:12:52.000 I do think that, by and large, many members of the Bilderberg Group actually see themselves in much the same way as the conspiracy theorists see them.

02:13:01.000 As this shattery cabal out to Um, if not to rule the world, but to influence world events. 0.96

02:13:08.000 What would they see as their purpose then?

02:13:10.000 I mean, presumably it's a good get-together of powerful people.

02:13:13.000 They don't often get a chance to meet away from the glare of the press.

02:13:17.000 One could understand why they might want to have a private chat.

02:13:19.000 Yeah, and that's certainly got something to do with it.

02:13:22.000 They see themselves as wise, Well, I mean, it depends what side of the political spectrum you sit on.

02:13:30.000 Healy, David Rockefeller and various others.

02:13:34.000 There's a real idealism there isn't there?

02:13:36.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:37.000 You don't want to go to war again.

02:13:38.000 Oh absolutely.

02:13:39.000 Is that a sinister conspiracy?

02:13:40.000 Well, I mean it depends what side of the political spectrum you sit on.

02:13:45.000 And you know many of the anti-Buildaberg conspiracists are right-wiggers who see themselves as twigs in a tidal wave of globalization.

02:13:54.000 They see themselves as nationalists.

02:13:56.000 And they think the idea of a world government, which is what Bilderberg is into by and large, the idea of a one world community, a new world order.

02:14:04.000 They see themselves as a government as opposed to a group of world leaders or people with influence at a global level who are talking about global issues, do they?

02:14:13.000 They see themselves as headhunters.

02:14:15.000 They'll get an up-and-coming politician who they think may be president or prime minister one day, and as globalist, industrialist leaders who believe that politics shouldn't be in the hands of the politicians, they try and influence them with wise words in the corridor of that sort of session.

02:14:31.000 Should they be more open?

02:14:32.000 I mean, should they come and sit here and do an interview with me and explain what they're doing or talk after their meeting about what they've decided, even if they don't invite us along as journalists beforehand or during?

02:14:43.000 Well, Bilderberg's secrecy, I think, harks back specifically to Henry Kissinger, who, you know, in quite a silly way, I think, loves the idea of being this shadowy secret figure.

02:14:53.000 And it was Kissinger, the founder member of Bilderberg, who had this idea to be this kind of secret organisation.

02:15:00.000 In quite a silly way, really.

02:15:02.000 And I think some members... Lord Owen said to me at one point... He's a former British Foreign Secretary and leader of the Social Democratic Party.

02:15:10.000 Yeah, and he said he kind of wished Gilderberg didn't quite have this air of secrecy.

02:15:14.000 Because it gives rise to tremendous conspiracy theories.

02:15:18.000 John Ronson there, who's written about you in a book called Them.

02:15:21.000 Now, yeah, and it attacked me in that book, and he also, back in what, 1999 or 2000, went with Jim Tucker to Europe and covered Jim being harassed and fallen by the Secret Service of that particular country, but notice the spin there.

02:15:36.000 Yeah, they want world government, but it's a good thing.

02:15:38.000 They want to stop war, but the truth is they help engineer wars. 0.74

02:15:41.000 The truth is, these are the people that want a world tax, that want to take your sovereignty, a Pan-American Union. 0.83

02:15:47.000 All these things they keep denying, now they admit it.

02:15:49.000 Jim Tucker, your response to that propaganda?

02:15:52.000 It does seem that John Ronson's view has come a little bit our way in seeing them, Bilderberg, see yourself as a world government.

02:16:02.000 They're having trouble defining secrecy in a private meeting.

02:16:06.000 A private meeting is where we say, acknowledge the topic, we're going to meet at this hotel these days.

02:16:14.000 It's going to be a private meeting, doors will be closed, so we're going to have a private meeting on these days and you can't come.

02:16:19.000 A secret meeting is where the fact of the meeting itself is not to be known.

02:16:25.000 And they tell all the employees, you'll be fired if you ever talk about anything, and decades later we get the documents they had in there, and it's for all these horrible things they want to do, and all these powerful people colluding together to leverage their power!

02:16:38.000 In fact, as far as human nature is concerned, it's the very fact that they step on their employees' necks so hard prior to the Bilderberg meeting that makes them act about The second to third day of being in their resort before they seal it off, that makes the employees realize that something sinister has happened.

02:16:57.000 I mean, imagine being a bartender or a waiter and told, or a busboy for that matter, a janitor, a cleaning lady, and being told, do not look a Bilderberg participant in the eye.

02:17:10.000 Speak to him only if he speaks to you.

02:17:14.000 If you reveal one word about what transpires here, our Retrieve one document.

02:17:22.000 You will be fired and you'll not only be fired, you'll be blackballed from the industry.

02:17:25.000 You'll never get a job in the hotel business field again.

02:17:29.000 And it's under that kind of harsh discipline that typically on a Monday before they first hear off on Wednesday, low-key conversations with the staff inside.

02:17:40.000 Jim, stay there.

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02:21:50.000 Jim, you just got back the last couple weeks from Germany in another of these annual Bilderberg throat meetings and we've gone over your exploits and adventures before, but What happened this visit?

02:22:05.000 And then, number one, what was it physically like?

02:22:09.000 What was the security arrangements like?

02:22:11.000 And then, what tidbits did you get from inside?

02:22:13.000 Because you're always able to forecast from your spies inside what's going to be happening in the new year off their agendas, showing that they are the predominant power force on the globe.

02:22:24.000 Well, we all hope that the number one item to turn up this year, that they are wrong.

02:22:32.000 Henry Kissinger told Richard Holbrook to expect oil to reach $150 a barrel in two years.

02:22:43.000 Triple the very high price of oil now, which is about $50 a barrel.

02:22:47.000 I think it dipped a couple of bucks in the last two days.

02:22:51.000 But from typical $50 a barrel now to $150 a barrel, it should not be long, quote, Kissinger-Dolte told Holbrook.

02:23:00.000 And also another source also pointed out that James Baker, not at this Bilderberg meeting, that had attended Bilderberg meetings as Secretary of Treasury and Chief of Staff under President Reagan and President Bush the elder.

02:23:19.000 He was representing the Carlisle Group in an earlier business conference, and he said, "Look for $150 a barrel.

02:23:28.000 Now, we all hope that they're wrong in that projection.

02:23:31.000 We're talking about six and a half, seven dollars a gallon.

02:23:34.000 Yes, which Europeans are used to paying prices like that now, but we're not used to it and we do not want to get used to it.

02:23:40.000 But they're engineering the scam while acting like they want to try to lower the prices.

02:23:45.000 Yes, well, the economic impact would be tremendous, understanding that a significant percentage... Inflation would go to 15%.

02:23:54.000 At least because, as any economist will tell you, a significant portion of the price you pay for anything, whether it's a necktie or a house or a car, can be attributed to the cost of transportation from the long journey from raw material to finished product to marketplace.

02:24:11.000 So we're talking about tremendous inflation, skyrocketing inflation, if these projections come to be.

02:24:18.000 And of course, we all hope they do not.

02:24:23.000 Amazing!

02:24:24.000 I know you can't give us the specifics, but you've had an incredible record of getting these nuggets.

02:24:29.000 You got the intel from what, a spy?

02:24:32.000 Or did you get physical documents, as you have countless times?

02:24:35.000 Not physical documents.

02:24:36.000 They were eyes and ears of two different sources inside Bilderberg.

02:24:40.000 And so, was Kissinger chortling?

02:24:43.000 Was he proud of this financial raping?

02:24:46.000 His face was expressionless.

02:24:48.000 Very neutral expression on his face.

02:24:50.000 As was Holbrook.

02:24:51.000 It was not a matter of him choosing.

02:24:53.000 So he put the fake German voice on and said, I'm telling you it's going to be $150 a barrel budget.

02:25:01.000 Oh yes, he was definitely using, as he always tries to, unless you surprise him, his phony German accent. 0.99

02:25:07.000 I mean, he is from Germany, but he's been in this country since he was age of 14.

02:25:11.000 And his brother has no accent at all.

02:25:14.000 So, I mean, please give us the exact quote.

02:25:18.000 The exact quote was, uh, it should not be long.

02:25:25.000 Well, the first quote is paraphrased, that he did make the prediction of $150 a barrel within two years.

02:25:32.000 The direct quote was, it should not be long, and of course two years is not long when you're 90 years old, or almost.

02:25:40.000 And that means that they're going to plunge the dollar, because that can only happen if the dollar plunges.

02:25:47.000 As it has.

02:25:48.000 Go to Europe now, it's quite expensive against the Euro.

02:25:50.000 Something like a dollar.

02:25:52.000 130 Euros to the dollar.

02:25:58.000 And three years ago the Euro was at 89%, so that's a 40-plus drop.

02:26:03.000 Boy, great economic policy, but our news, Jim, is almost everything's wonderful.

02:26:07.000 What other little tidbits, that's earth-shattering by the way, what we just heard, what other little tidbits did you get?

02:26:13.000 Of course the, well the, The big dispute, the first time to my knowledge Bill Burr has ever had bitter, angry disputes.

02:26:24.000 The anger over the invasion of Iraq on the European side was so subsiding, it was rekindled because of reports in the London Times and the Guardian about Bush and Blair planning The invasion of Iraq months in advance.

02:26:43.000 Now, Blair was in trouble, although he survived the election.

02:26:47.000 His party lost about 160 seats in Parliament, and he's weakened.

02:26:54.000 Blair had made the commitment to go to war with Bush months in advance, but they're still pretending that diplomacy is their weapon, not war.

02:27:02.000 And that just outraged the British, and the other Europeans.

02:27:09.000 Now, it's only fair to say that, as we point out in the current American free press, it's not a matter of the Europeans being the peace Bill of Burgers and the Americans being the war Bill of Burgers because the European Bill of Burgers celebrated and helped generate the first invasion of Iraq by Big Bush. 0.57

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02:31:00.000 In the next few years, and that's the indicators we're getting from a lot of major financial publications as well, the mass raping, the mass fleecing, heated arguments between the top globalists There at the Bilderberg Group meeting from Jim Tucker's sources.

02:31:22.000 Jim, you were continuing to tell that story.

02:31:25.000 Yes, pointing out that the European Bilderbergs strongly supported the 1991 invasion of Iraq, the invasion of Yugoslavia under Bill Clinton, which transformed the NATO into the standing army of the United Nations.

02:31:45.000 Now, if we watch the French A referendum on the European Constitution.

02:31:50.000 I think it's May 29th.

02:31:51.000 If the French reject the European Constitution, we could all toast Bilderberg, because their hearts will be broken.

02:32:00.000 They're very concerned about the possibility that France will reject the European Constitution, which theoretically, if one country says no, the whole thing is dead.

02:32:16.000 Well, the smaller countries may say no later, but it would be a very severe blow to Bilderberg if the French reject the May 29th referendum.

02:32:29.000 And the reason that the Frenchmen have turned against it, well, It could go either way, but it went from something like 78% approval to about, at one point, about 48% approval to barely 51% approval in the recent polls.

02:32:43.000 And that's if you believe these polls?

02:32:45.000 Well, they're having the same problem as one of the Germans pointed out, as we've had with NAFTA.

02:32:53.000 When they expanded the European Union to include Turkey, and also the former East Bloc countries expanded to 25, the French Bilderberg types did exactly what American financiers did.

02:33:07.000 Take their shops and good jobs to the poor countries where they pay slave wages, and good jobs left Germany to go to Ukraine and to Asia. 0.66

02:33:19.000 In fact, one of them used, the German used the analogy, just like American jobs go south of the border and to India, our jobs are going to the Ukraine and to Asia.

02:33:30.000 And the people aren't even going to have the money to buy the slave goods, but the globalists still want their global government so they can control the entire globe, so they're willing to go along with this.

02:33:39.000 Any other big bombshells that came out?

02:33:42.000 Well, I think the next most interesting thing is who was and who was not there.

02:33:47.000 Governor Mark Warner of Virginia attended for the first time, which means that Bill Burr thinks he's a potential president.

02:33:54.000 He's the governor of a so-called red state, the only time Virginia has voted Republican presidential candidate.

02:34:03.000 election since Eisenhower.

02:34:06.000 Well, Virginia went for Eisenhower in 1952, Republican in every presidential election since, except 1964 when Lyndon Johnson beat Goldwater.

02:34:16.000 Virginia did go for Goldwater. 0.52

02:34:19.000 So as a Democrat governor of a red state, that means that they consider the possibility that the governor, a Warner of Virginia, Mark Warner of Virginia, not to be confused with John Warner.

02:34:31.000 And by the way, you said on this program years ago that they literally vet and pick who they want to be president.

02:34:36.000 And then New York Times came out and admitted it last year.

02:34:39.000 I mean, they're just admitting all this now!

02:34:41.000 Well, they like to own both horses in a two-horse race, that's why every Candidate, and every President has had strong connections, either through Trilateral Commission or Bilderberg.

02:34:56.000 Jim, who else was there?

02:35:00.000 Of course, the laundry list is printed this week, but it's important to understand that Alan Hubbard, Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Director of the National Economic Council, was there to be the messenger boy to President Bush.

02:35:16.000 And of course, William Lutey, Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Near Eastern and Southeastern Asian Affairs.

02:35:25.000 He was back as usual.

02:35:28.000 I'm scanning the list even as we speak.

02:35:30.000 What was the security like this time?

02:35:33.000 Heavier than I've ever seen it before and it's always been heavy.

02:35:35.000 The necktie guys in plainclothes start showing up on Monday, on Tuesday.

02:35:46.000 But now, understand the meeting doesn't start until Thursday.

02:35:48.000 It starts showing up on Monday, on Tuesday, a lot of uniformed cops around.

02:35:53.000 Now, you were basically grabbed by the Italian police last year.

02:35:57.000 What did the Deutsche Police do to you this year?

02:35:59.000 Well, I felt a little bit neglected.

02:36:00.000 They didn't molest me at all, but our photographer, who's also a gifted journalist, Daddy Eustl, and you'll see his photographs in the next spotlight, a lot of them, Uh, he was jerked off an airplane and held for, uh, let's see, when he got off the plane, uh, in, uh, Munich, they grabbed him and held him for a couple of hours.

02:36:20.000 They came on the plane to get him off and, uh, held him for about two or three hours to harass him.

02:36:25.000 Then, when he got to the scene of the crime in, uh, a little town of Rotterdam, about 40 miles from Munich, uh, they took his passport and said, uh, we'll give it back to you.

02:36:40.000 Uh, the day you leave.

02:36:41.000 The closest they came to, that's why I say I felt neglected.

02:36:45.000 They didn't abuse me this year, but except one day they said to me, well, they brought out the top cop of, well, one of the top cops of the uniformed police.

02:36:55.000 He wanted to see my passport.

02:36:56.000 And I said, I will show you my passport, but I will not surrender my passport.

02:37:00.000 I'm standing on a public sidewalk and I held it up for him to look, but I didn't let him have it.

02:37:05.000 Because he was probably taking it, you know.

02:37:07.000 Well, I'm not comfortable with a cop holding my passport until I come back looking for it saying, I gotta go home today.

02:37:11.000 I suppose I don't see the cop anymore.

02:37:17.000 Well, I mean, it's the same thing.

02:37:19.000 The Minutemen were going to be at a public press conference, and the head of Homeland Security said, Homeland Security, for terror reasons, you're not allowed in to talk about how we've ordered the Border Patrol to stand down.

02:37:28.000 I mean, everywhere they're using it against journalists, against activists.

02:37:32.000 Well, this is the editor of the local newspaper down there.

02:37:34.000 They told him he could not attend a press conference.

02:37:38.000 There's a funny one in California.

02:37:39.000 Well, it's totally unrelated.

02:37:42.000 But a bunch of illegal aliens were having a rally in opposition to drivers having to show their citizens are legally here to get a driver's license.

02:37:50.000 And they wouldn't let this broadcaster oppose the illegal aliens. 0.67

02:37:54.000 They wouldn't let him come in because they said he didn't have identification.

02:37:58.000 And they're having a rally against identification.

02:38:00.000 They're having a rally for the illegal aliens, but he doesn't have ID.

02:38:03.000 Yeah.

02:38:04.000 Well, that was a little bit off the subject, but it means... No, it's not.

02:38:07.000 I mean, it's all interconnected.

02:38:09.000 And it shows what a sick joke this is.

02:38:11.000 I want to take some calls, Jim, but anything else that's important that we should know about before we go to calls?

02:38:16.000 Uh, let's go to calls.

02:38:17.000 Okay, up first is Fred in Pennsylvania.

02:38:20.000 Fred, go ahead.

02:38:21.000 You're on the air with Jim Tucker.

02:38:22.000 Hi, Alex.

02:38:23.000 Hi, Jim.

02:38:23.000 Hello.

02:38:25.000 Uh, I want to, um, I want to make a comment and then I want to ask a question of Alex.

02:38:31.000 Uh, Alex, it would be great if you could, uh, you've done this once before that I heard of, If you could review the grand structure of G8, Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, CFR, Basically, all the heads... Let me just stop you.

02:38:53.000 All those other groups are over certain things.

02:38:56.000 Economics are over this or that, or military.

02:38:59.000 But then they're all tools in the corporate structure under Bilderberg, and the heads of Bilderberg are all the heads of the other groups, and they all have different tasks that they carry out.

02:39:08.000 But Bilderberg is about as big and powerful as it gets in one of the smallest meetings that we know of.

02:39:13.000 Let me get a comment from Jim Tucker on that.

02:39:15.000 Jim?

02:39:16.000 Well, yes, Bilderberg to me is the senior varsity.

02:39:19.000 This year they have 130, but it's typically 120 with two or three fringes that are likely to be tossed aside if they're no longer useful.

02:39:28.000 Trilateral commissions have about 320, and they include representatives of Japan and other Asian countries.

02:39:38.000 But it's an interlocking leadership But the head of Trilateral is the top guy on Bilderberg.

02:39:43.000 The head of CFR is Bilderberg.

02:39:45.000 It's like they're the main brain and then they go out with their different minions under them and different organizations.

02:39:52.000 And the CFR is the propaganda ministry.

02:39:55.000 We'll see within the coming months white papers endorsing whatever Bilderberg calls for.

02:40:00.000 They get the marching orders and then CFR kind of works out how to do it and all the think tanks report to them.

02:40:06.000 Alec?

02:40:06.000 Yeah?

02:40:08.000 I want to make a contribution to the conversation in that I came across some really bizarre facts about the UN.

02:40:15.000 Briefly, number one, you have around the time of the Atlantic, that Churchill, Roosevelt, Atlantic Charter, not the Atlantic Charter I think it was, that document that Churchill and Roosevelt came up with, there were UN agencies that really use the exact same title they have now

02:40:38.000 UNESCO, UNRWA... Sir, I have a New York Times from 1936 with the ten regions of America, the call for global government.

02:40:46.000 They tried all this, it was the same names, almost identical with the president back during World War II, I mean World War I, Woodrow Wilson, thanks for the call.

02:40:59.000 Comments on that, this global government, it's just more of the same.

02:41:03.000 Yes, I think you're referring to somebody's new state's constitution going to divide the United States into ten regions.

02:41:10.000 Well, of course there's the perennial issues that Bilderberg had, the direct tax on the United, on Poland's wellhead by the United Nations, and it's been pending before the United Nations for three years.

02:41:24.000 Money transfer tax, internet tax, which also brings control of the UN, NATO, Army, and World Court.

02:41:32.000 Well, their favorite, though, seems to be tax on oil at the wellhead.

02:41:38.000 Maybe 10 cents a barrel.

02:41:39.000 Because that's the real currency?

02:41:41.000 Yes.

02:41:42.000 And from there it'll go up.

02:41:43.000 How close are their plans being thwarted?

02:41:48.000 Well, I think it's partly tactical.

02:41:51.000 It's been pending.

02:41:52.000 A proposal for a direct tax by the UN on oil and barrel head has been pending for the United Nations for three years.

02:41:59.000 You have not read about it in the mainstream media for obvious reasons.

02:42:03.000 And, let's see, one of the guys was saying that Well, I have to find the item.

02:42:12.000 You don't have to find the individual.

02:42:15.000 One of the Bilderberg guys suggested that we talk to the paperboys in advance and tell them not to stir up any right-wing hysteria and let it solidly pass the UN so that you're paying that tax without knowing it costs just a small fraction of one penny per gallon when it translates from ten cents a barrel.

02:42:35.000 But that sets up the taxing authority, the enforcement, and then they can jack it up?

02:42:39.000 Certainly that's what would happen.

02:42:40.000 But as he said, perhaps in three years when the public becomes aware of it, they'll simply say, hey, that's something.

02:42:46.000 So they'll be around for three years without us knowing it.

02:42:51.000 And for those that just joined us, I've been interviewing Jim for probably seven years, and I've been reading articles he wrote 15, 20 years ago.

02:42:58.000 He's been doing this for 25, 26, what is it, 27 years now, Jim?

02:43:01.000 I'm not exactly sure when.

02:43:03.000 Somewhere around mid-80s I started traveling.

02:43:06.000 Okay, but you've been covering Bilderberg how long?

02:43:09.000 Well, since 1975 as far as being involved, but I was just down at the time.

02:43:13.000 Okay, so I mean over 30 years, but go in there for 20.

02:43:16.000 20 plus.

02:43:16.000 Yeah, 20 plus.

02:43:20.000 I mean, he puts out a report saying they're going to have the folding of the Soviet Union.

02:43:24.000 Happens.

02:43:25.000 He says, no, the attack isn't like the Washington Post says, it won't be in March of 2002, it'll be March of 2003.

02:43:34.000 Happens.

02:43:35.000 Every year he comes on, tells us what's going to happen, and unfortunately it turns out happening.

02:43:40.000 This shows the power of Bilderberg.

02:43:43.000 And he does this by getting their documents, by having employees get stuff for him, by having employees write notes down and tell him what was said.

02:43:50.000 And Jim, I can only commend you.

02:43:51.000 You deserve a Pulitzer Prize.

02:43:54.000 Uh, thank you much.

02:43:55.000 No, I really think you do.

02:43:57.000 I mean, this is what old-fashioned muckraking that kept this country free did. 0.99

02:44:01.000 But these bastards own all the major newspapers, so we never hear about it. 0.95

02:44:05.000 Well, that's a tribute to the late, great Westbrook Tegeler, who first wrote about Bilderberg in 1957. 0.97

02:44:11.000 He did not know that they call themselves Bilderberg, but he went down, observed these people, based on a telephone tip, down on Jekyll Island, all these luminaries from around the world, and raised the question, what are they doing and why is it secret?

02:44:24.000 He wrote two lengthy columns addressing the subject.

02:44:28.000 In 1957, he was the pioneer.

02:44:30.000 You guys ought to republish those.

02:44:32.000 I bet you could get the rights easy and put it in American Free Press.

02:44:35.000 Actually, we have, in 1975, we put out a A thing called Spotlight on Bilderberg, which actually grabbed everything that we could find that had ever been printed on the subject.

02:44:48.000 It led off, of course, of Pegler's two classic columns, a series of... Well, you should update that and reissue it.

02:44:53.000 Let's take another call.

02:44:54.000 We've got to go fast now.

02:44:55.000 Loaded phones here, as usual.

02:44:57.000 Ron in New York.

02:44:58.000 Go ahead, Ron.

02:45:02.000 Ron, you speak now or ever hold your peace, bro.

02:45:05.000 At least during this show.

02:45:06.000 Okay, Ron's gone.

02:45:08.000 Joe, Joe, where are you calling us from?

02:45:11.000 Hi, I'm calling from Maryland.

02:45:13.000 Welcome, Joe.

02:45:14.000 I just really want to thank you both, and Mr. Tarker, I really pray for you when you're overseas, believe me.

02:45:21.000 Well, the Lord Baptist appreciates that.

02:45:24.000 Let me tell you, I just really want to, mainly all I call for is just to encourage you and just really thank you for the good reporting.

02:45:33.000 And I do have a question, though, come to think of it.

02:45:35.000 How about Iran? 0.59

02:45:37.000 Yes, Iran, is that on the... Yeah, did the attack on Iran before they fueled the reactor come up?

02:45:43.000 Well, the dialogue at the Bilderberg... I think the direct post will be the story this week, but...

02:45:50.000 Roughly paraphrased was, is Iran next?

02:45:53.000 Kissinger's opening with a seminar on the meaning of peace was the title of it.

02:45:58.000 And there's questions like, when does it end?

02:46:00.000 Is Iran next? 1.00

02:46:01.000 And that sort of thing from the Europeans.

02:46:04.000 But Kissinger says we get peace, they're taking everybody over?

02:46:10.000 Well, he had a lot of hostile reaction to his... Okay, what did he push?

02:46:14.000 Tell us.

02:46:15.000 I could not find out the exacts of what was said at the... well, he was presiding over a panel discussing the meaning of peace.

02:46:15.000 I don't know.

02:46:23.000 But, but, I mean, where did the panel go?

02:46:25.000 Does it look like war?

02:46:26.000 Uh, it looks like the, uh, uh, Europeans are still saying, uh, don't fight in, uh, Iran, and it appears they seem to think they have to abhor an American not to invade Iran also.

02:46:41.000 We're running out of soldiers.

02:46:45.000 So it was just a big argument, basically?

02:46:48.000 Yes, a rowdy, supposed to be a panel discussion, interrupted by the European Builderberg saying, what's next?

02:46:55.000 Is Iran next? 1.00

02:46:58.000 You said you've never heard of them getting rowdy?

02:47:03.000 Well, they've gotten a little bit more lively the last few years.

02:47:05.000 It used to be everybody agreed on everything, just discussions, tactics.

02:47:11.000 But always in the endgame of a global empire, people start getting squeezed.

02:47:15.000 Thanks for the call, Joe.

02:47:16.000 Todd, in Florida.

02:47:18.000 Go ahead, Todd.

02:47:21.000 Yeah, Mr. Jones and staff, thanks for Mr. Rivera and Mr. Tucker.

02:47:24.000 I mean, that's back-to-back truth from where I sit.

02:47:29.000 Mr. Tucker, how would you compare the environment around these meetings when you first started covering them versus what's going on lately?

02:47:38.000 Dramatically different.

02:47:40.000 In the early 80s, when I'm the only paperboy there, and I make a reservation at their hotel, and I was able to sit in the bar one evening while the staff is setting up And, uh, paid straight by, uh, for cash so that I don't have any checking out to do.

02:48:03.000 And I see one young lady disappear from the table, and the other one disappeared for a moment, uh, for a nose-tiring operation.

02:48:11.000 And I was able to walk by and grab the, uh, computerized printout of the participants.

02:48:16.000 I could never get away with that now because, uh, as soon as I'm in that hotel, their hotel are checking my own hotel.

02:48:23.000 They've got their own, uh, secret server, private security guys.

02:48:27.000 Uh, shattered me every minute.

02:48:31.000 So it's, uh, since the... Stay there, Jim.

02:48:34.000 Final, final segment home stretch.

02:48:37.000 We'll let Todd finish up real quick and talk to Jason, and then that's it!

02:48:40.000 Another powerful transmission.

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02:52:02.000 Jim Tucker, American Free Press dot net.

02:52:06.000 Jim, just real fast, did any other major newspapers that were there covering it, did any of them get any good intel like you got that you were unable to get?

02:52:15.000 No, one reporter who took photographs for us Daddy Euston and I, we were the only ones there and we pooled our information as we did last year when there were so many, many reporters.

02:52:30.000 We always pool our information because we're not competing.

02:52:32.000 We're trying to help each other get the information out.

02:52:36.000 Good.

02:52:36.000 Let's let Todd and Ford finish up.

02:52:38.000 Does that answer your question, Todd?

02:52:40.000 In terms of the draft, is that brought up?

02:52:42.000 But also, it seems like the revelation of the method thing is more about teaching people, hey, Bilderberg is in charge, and then having a whole other name or group Just like you brought up the gentleman in 57 writing about it, but really it was started in 54.

02:52:56.000 So do you see any other name?

02:52:58.000 And really they were meeting in 1913 at Jekyll Island.

02:53:01.000 Yeah, thanks for the call.

02:53:02.000 Comments?

02:53:03.000 Well, they started calling themselves Bilderberg in 1954.

02:53:06.000 The world had no knowledge of their existence until Westbrook Pegler in 1957.

02:53:10.000 And he didn't know they called themselves Bilderberg when he wrote.

02:53:15.000 We later found out that they had their first formal meeting When did you discover it?

02:53:21.000 When you swiped the documents?

02:53:24.000 No, I was told about it in 1975.

02:53:26.000 It was April 1975.

02:53:29.000 I'm being interviewed by Willis Carter at Library Lobby for the position of editor of a newspaper Beep created called Spotlight.

02:53:36.000 And he asked what I thought about Bilderberg.

02:53:38.000 And I said, who the hell is Bilderberg?

02:53:40.000 And he gave me a brief summary of Bilderberg.

02:53:43.000 And I said, that's not possible.

02:53:44.000 I've been in the Daily Newspapers, Metropolitan Newspapers for 20 years, sitting next to clacking wire machines.

02:53:52.000 And such a group could not exist without me knowing about it.

02:53:55.000 That he gave me a sack full of files I read with fascination.

02:53:59.000 With greedy abandon.

02:54:00.000 Let's talk about the final call.

02:54:02.000 Jason in Maryland, you got 60 seconds.

02:54:04.000 Thank you.

02:54:05.000 I was wondering what either of you thought about the recent closings of so many of our military bases and a follow-up question of if there were any plans that either of you know of for invasion of this country.

02:54:22.000 Thanks.

02:54:24.000 Well, the military closings come up every six years or so, when the Pentagon tries to close down obsolete bases and whatever, and just as predictably, every senator from any state that has a base closing... Yeah, it's really a big side issue.

02:54:40.000 Yeah, it's not really an issue on point, it's just a matter of... Pork barrel.

02:54:46.000 Yeah, don't close my military base, close the other guy's military base and save money.

02:54:52.000 Yeah, and really they're just shifting to a predatory global empire military, where our military isn't even needed.

02:54:57.000 Thank you so much, Jim Tucker.

02:54:59.000 It's always wonderful, and I guess we'll be talking to you in about 10 months before you go to the next one.

02:55:02.000 I'll talk to you next spring.

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