Alex Jones Show - 20050602_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Music by Ben Thede Here we are on this live Thursday edition.

00:00:37.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:41.000 Here we are on this live Thursday edition.

00:00:45.000 It is the second day of June 2005.

00:00:51.000 We're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:56.000 We have one of the leading experts on genetically engineered foods and the testing of those foods, those crops, coming up in about 30 minutes, joining us from England.

00:01:07.000 He worked for the government.

00:01:08.000 He worked for the industry.

00:01:10.000 He was pro-GM food when he found out that it was killing the rats.

00:01:16.000 He got in a lot of trouble, and they tried to tell him to shut his mouth, but he has refused to, and six years later, he has been totally vindicated by a mass of other studies.

00:01:28.000 So, that's coming up a little bit later in this hour, in about 30 minutes.

00:01:35.000 We're also going to have wide open phones, whatever issue, whatever news item, whatever you'd like to discuss, you're welcome to join us.

00:01:43.000 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 and we will get you up and on the air.

00:01:44.000 Some stories that I mentioned yesterday but didn't get into in enough detail I want to go back over these today.

00:01:50.000 9-92-31 and we will get you up and on the air.

00:01:56.000 Some stories that I mentioned yesterday but didn't get into in enough detail, I want to go back over these today.

00:02:06.000 Bush says amnesty criticism is absurd, that Amnesty International, why, how dare them, There's never been any evidence of torture anywhere!

00:02:17.000 And we have all their own reports, the government admissions, the photographs, Alberto Gonzales, the Attorney General's own memos when he was Chief White House Counsel.

00:02:26.000 And I want to get into fake news, not just Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch and hundreds of millions in fake newscasts and propaganda placement, but this San Francisco Chronicle article crew destroys road For Schwarzenegger staged event.

00:02:44.000 Crew destroys road for fake Schwarzenegger staged event.

00:02:52.000 And they went and jackhammered up an entire side of a road, not just so he could fill the pothole, but so he could say, see?

00:02:58.000 Transportation.

00:03:00.000 You really need toll roads. 0.94

00:03:02.000 Look at how screwed up it is.

00:03:04.000 I'm going to fix it.

00:03:05.000 I've now seen the video online.

00:03:08.000 The San Francisco Chronicle has photos of him doing it in his comments.

00:03:11.000 I mean, they never stop!

00:03:15.000 They never stop!

00:03:16.000 So I want to go over that a little bit more, and even more important than all of this, is law enforcement wants registration of political dissidents.

00:03:28.000 They're very close to passing this law in California.

00:03:31.000 The ADL and the Sheriff there in LA are some of the chief Peddlers of this, and man, you do anything political, you are going to get arrested and taken in for questioning and fingerprinted and put in a register.

00:03:48.000 Can't get any more Nazi than that. 0.59

00:03:50.000 It's unbelievable.

00:03:51.000 So that's some of the other news.

00:03:53.000 And we've talked a lot about this over the last few years, but here it is in the Associated Press.

00:03:57.000 Gitmo detainees say they were sold.

00:04:00.000 Totally innocent.

00:04:02.000 And we have the evidence.

00:04:03.000 They talked to a top CIA guy.

00:04:04.000 He says, yeah, it's true.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, that's what we did.

00:04:09.000 So, we'll go over that as well.

00:04:13.000 Amnesty leadership aided Kerry, though, we're hearing.

00:04:16.000 Why?

00:04:16.000 It's just a partisan attack.

00:04:19.000 See?

00:04:19.000 If you're against torture, you're for Kerry.

00:04:21.000 Well, I thought Kerry was for the war and all that.

00:04:24.000 And they have another article here.

00:04:25.000 North Korea lashes out at Cheney.

00:04:28.000 And see?

00:04:29.000 Now if you're against torture, you're for North Korea. 0.96

00:04:31.000 No.

00:04:31.000 Dictators and corrupt politicians prop each other up because they can point the finger at each other and make themselves look good.

00:04:37.000 They're both bad.

00:04:39.000 So that's the psychology there.

00:04:40.000 There's just a ton of news.

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00:08:07.000 All right, we're about to plunge into the news on this live Thursday, second day of June 2005 edition.

00:08:21.000 Thank you.

00:08:23.000 We're about to plunge into the news and information and we have the expert on genetic engineered foods who was a supporter of it until he did studies and found out how dangerous it was and what it was doing to rodents, which are very similar in their metabolic systems to humans.

00:08:40.000 And then all the studies now on humans, and six years later he's been totally vindicated, so one of the preeminent, really recognized as one of the top five world experts on genetically engineered food crops, will be joining us in about 25 minutes.

00:08:57.000 I got some good news and some bad news, so I guess I'll give you the good news up front.

00:09:03.000 We've turned away 200 people before at a showing at a 300-plus seat theater in Houston when I showed Road to Tyranny.

00:09:11.000 I didn't like doing that.

00:09:12.000 And then the next time, it barely filled up in Houston.

00:09:16.000 So I thought, well, here in Austin, we've sold out every time.

00:09:21.000 and overflowed about 50 people each time with almost no promotion so I'll have it at three different screenings two at the downtown theater and one at their big South Austin theater you know where they have two hundred and sixty something seat theaters and these are really big theaters because you have your own table folks when you're watching the movie well the next Wednesday is on the verge of being sold out and the

00:09:50.000 The first showing tonight is sold out and the other one at 10 o'clock is almost sold out.

00:09:57.000 And it was sold out... I just found out that a couple days ago the 7 o'clock showing was sold out and no one told me and so I called to check this morning and learned of this and I had like 15 people on my guest list and guess they're gonna have to sit on somebody's shoulders or

00:10:20.000 So I have to call up my friends and guests and maybe ask them to go to the 10 o'clock and we're trying to reserve 10 or 15 seats for them.

00:10:28.000 So, again, victims of our own success.

00:10:30.000 I'm on the verge of... They're already booked up next week after Wednesday, but I'm on the verge of having a late night showing.

00:10:38.000 We're having one at 8 o'clock.

00:10:39.000 I'm just having a new showing at 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night next Wednesday.

00:10:47.000 So, for all of you that aren't online or didn't get tickets, you can go to it.

00:10:53.000 I really should have just had this in all the Alamo Draft House theaters in Texas and had it in theaters for like two weeks.

00:10:58.000 We probably would have sold all those out.

00:11:03.000 It's just very, very annoying.

00:11:07.000 But next time we do it, we'll know.

00:11:08.000 But I don't want to turn you away because a lot of times people buy tickets and then don't go.

00:11:15.000 So there's a good chance that for the first people that line up after, you know, there, right before the film starts, that you'll be able to get in.

00:11:23.000 And I know you can still get tickets for tonight's 10 o'clock show, though there's not many left.

00:11:30.000 They said 20, 30 tickets left.

00:11:34.000 So, I'm trying to get all the exact numbers right now, and I'll let you know by the end of the broadcast, and we'll post it on the website today.

00:11:42.000 I mean, I don't want people to then not come and then there be a few extra seats that don't get filled, but you can also, if you don't have a computer and you live in Austin, Texas, you can go down to the Alamo Draft House downtown and buy tickets there at the door early for tomorrow night.

00:11:59.000 You can also do the thing on South Lamar at that location if you don't have a computer.

00:12:05.000 So, who knows what is going to happen, but I'm going to talk to the theater, too, and See about letting folks go into their big foyer and at least check out the documentary films and talk to the crowd and do stuff like that.

00:12:19.000 I mean, it is frustrating.

00:12:21.000 So we're going to have to get more showings next time.

00:12:26.000 Alright, I don't want to spend this whole first segment talking about this, but if I was you, I would get to InfoWars.com right now and link through to the Alamo Draft House and buy your tickets for the 10 o'clock or buy your tickets for next Wednesday.

00:12:41.000 And don't say you weren't warned, but I think I'm going to be able to probably have another showing Wednesday night, a double showing there.

00:12:49.000 And then that way, everybody that didn't get a chance to go to these other three showings will be able to do that.

00:12:54.000 Alamo Draftowels, though, is a really fast-growing company.

00:12:57.000 They're all over Texas now.

00:12:58.000 They started here in Austin.

00:12:59.000 It's a small crew running it all, and a restaurant to boot on top of it, so they're a little frazzled like I am.

00:13:06.000 Just too many irons in the fire.

00:13:10.000 But this is shaping up to be such a success, I don't know, in a month or so, I might just have it at a couple of their theaters for a week, and then that way everybody can go see it and enjoy themselves and not battle the crowds to get to it.

00:13:29.000 Enough said on that subject, but it actually chaps my hide to have this going on.

00:13:37.000 I wish somebody would have called me.

00:13:39.000 I mean, now I got people on my guest list, and I mean, again, I guess they're going to have to sit on my shoulders.

00:13:47.000 I remember one time we put out all these folding chairs, and they could only sell so many tickets, but still, I got them to let about 50 extra people in.

00:13:55.000 Because I can't stand turning people away.

00:13:59.000 And again, 200 people turned away at a showing in Houston.

00:14:04.000 And that's a big theater, 360-something.

00:14:05.000 I mean, a massive theater.

00:14:09.000 Because again, these aren't little crammed seats in, crammed in next to each other.

00:14:15.000 You've got your own table and your own little lights so you can read your menu.

00:14:21.000 I don't know, I'm a movie-going guy, so I like going to watch my own video and eating a cheeseburger.

00:14:30.000 Alright, let's get into serious news and information here, ladies and gentlemen.

00:14:34.000 On this live Thursday edition, Lord Bush is saying the amnesty criticism is absurd.

00:14:40.000 He said it two days ago.

00:14:42.000 He said it yesterday.

00:14:43.000 Dick Cheney's been saying it all over TV.

00:14:45.000 They've been giving press conferences saying this.

00:14:49.000 It's just absurd.

00:14:50.000 It's an absurd allegation, an absurd insinuation.

00:14:56.000 He said the same thing a couple years ago at a press conference.

00:14:58.000 He said, what about all this news of you having prior knowledge?

00:15:01.000 You know, all the documents are public.

00:15:03.000 Well, that's an absurd insinuation.

00:15:07.000 Well, you said there were weapons of mass destruction.

00:15:09.000 No, I didn't.

00:15:10.000 That's an absurd insinuation.

00:15:12.000 Well, they said that the sun came up in the morning, President Bush.

00:15:16.000 That's an absurd insinuation.

00:15:18.000 Well, they say the moon orbits the earth, Mr. President.

00:15:21.000 That's an absurd insinuation.

00:15:24.000 So they knew these reports were coming out.

00:15:26.000 They knew there was a new wave of this coming out.

00:15:28.000 So they had Newsweek go, well, maybe we didn't properly question one of our sources and it might not all be true.

00:15:36.000 Oh, a retraction!

00:15:37.000 Incredible!

00:15:38.000 You've retracted it!

00:15:40.000 You've done... Oh, see, all the torture, none of it's true!

00:15:45.000 I'll run down it again.

00:15:46.000 Brigadier General Rick Baucus quit two and a half years ago, the head of Guantanamo Bay, refusing to torture people, saying they were all innocent.

00:15:54.000 A month ago, one of the chief interrogators quit and said these people are totally innocent and he's not going to torture them anymore.

00:16:00.000 All over the British news, U.S.

00:16:02.000 Army officer, never in our news. 0.98

00:16:06.000 There are now at least ten different army reports about torture, beating people to death, bodily fluids on Korans, prostitutes raping them, because that really freaks out those Muslim men, and I can't say what else the prostitutes do, but it's not pretty. 0.98

00:16:23.000 And then Dick Cheney's answer, they're trained by Al-Qaeda to lie! 0.98

00:16:30.000 Brigadier General Rick Baucus is trained by Al-Qaeda to lie?

00:16:34.000 The Army Interrogator, he did dig that article out, it's here on the stack.

00:16:37.000 I forget his name. 0.75

00:16:40.000 He's evil.

00:16:41.000 The Interpreters, oh I forgot about them that have gone public in the Army and the Marine Corps.

00:16:46.000 What about Alberto Gonzalez?

00:16:47.000 Does he work for Al-Qaeda?

00:16:48.000 Well, I guess he does work for the U.S.

00:16:49.000 Government, so he is in the inner circle.

00:16:51.000 I guess, no, they kind of work for him.

00:16:52.000 I'm being serious now.

00:16:54.000 I mean, that's how crazy all this is.

00:16:57.000 Does he work for Al Qaeda?

00:16:59.000 Was he trained to lie?

00:17:00.000 When he wrote memos over to the Army and the Joint Chiefs going, the President is above the law.

00:17:05.000 He is the law.

00:17:06.000 You can pressure them until they die. 0.97

00:17:08.000 And if you don't kill them on purpose, then it's not torture! 0.99

00:17:14.000 Now stop mincing words. 0.99

00:17:15.000 Stop playing games.

00:17:17.000 Stop being afraid to get your hands dirty.

00:17:19.000 He said hands dirty in memos.

00:17:21.000 That's the same thing Rumsfeld said.

00:17:22.000 Stop being afraid to get your hands dirty.

00:17:26.000 And so they said, all right, we're going to go in there and work on them.

00:17:28.000 And they beat a lot of people to death.

00:17:32.000 Well, they're Al-Qaeda. 0.98

00:17:33.000 They deserve it.

00:17:34.000 Uh, nope.

00:17:35.000 We already knew this.

00:17:36.000 It's in two of my films years ago, but here it is in the AP.

00:17:40.000 The U.S.

00:17:41.000 government was paying upwards of $25,000 per Taliban or Al-Qaeda fighter.

00:17:48.000 The actual Taliban would go across, I shouldn't laugh, this is so sick, would go across the Pakistani border and grab goat herders, it's right here, and take these poor people and sell them to the U.S. 0.83

00:18:04.000 government.

00:18:05.000 And again, the media has interviewed these people, they don't even know where the U.S.

00:18:12.000 is on a map, folks.

00:18:13.000 A lot of them have never even been to a big village.

00:18:16.000 They live up on the sides of these mountains with their goats.

00:18:19.000 And they go to the little village and sell their goats.

00:18:22.000 That's it.

00:18:24.000 They don't, I mean literally folks, it's as primitive as some Tribe 50, 60 years ago in New Guinea. 1.00

00:18:32.000 I mean, we're talking minus the bones in the noses.

00:18:35.000 These guys, all they know is a bunch of Arab fighters showed up, put guns to their heads, those that really were fighting, and started getting the front lines.

00:18:43.000 Then they watched as those Arab fighters jumped on U.S. 0.97

00:18:45.000 aircraft and were flown to safety, and the U.S.

00:18:48.000 military swooped in, because they weren't part of the conspiracy.

00:18:51.000 We're told, here's the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

00:18:53.000 Grab them and put them in a camp. 0.92

00:18:56.000 And so now we torture a bunch of innocent nobodies. 0.97

00:18:59.000 But that wasn't enough!

00:19:00.000 No!

00:19:00.000 $25,000 bounty!

00:19:01.000 Yeah, right, that was the payoff to the warlords.

00:19:05.000 And they just start going and grabbing.

00:19:06.000 I mean, the reports of a father with his two sons up there and up drives an armored vehicle and they just grab him and the children are crying and, oh, 11-year-old kids, we'll take them too.

00:19:18.000 We'll send them to get Moe.

00:19:19.000 So daddy and the sons are thrown in.

00:19:22.000 Drug off, and suddenly they're on C-130 strapped down naked for twenty-something hour flights.

00:19:27.000 Then they're landing, uh, and they're being tortured, and they're, Allah save us! 0.99

00:19:32.000 Oh, they are devils! 0.98

00:19:33.000 Oh, no, please! 0.98

00:19:34.000 No, please, stop them, no!

00:19:36.000 And then our government, on purpose, releases them to go tell their stories to create enraged people in the Middle East and Central Asia.

00:19:45.000 That's the official government plan, P-2-O-G. 0.98

00:19:48.000 They were devils, they sent their women in to do things to us. 1.00

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00:24:21.000 All right, I know we've got Alan and David and Jeff and Alex and many holding, but I just need to continue with the news right now.

00:24:26.000 We will get to your calls. 0.53

00:24:31.000 So, They play this game of just saying it's ridiculous.

00:24:36.000 No one has been tortured. 0.96

00:24:38.000 You know, Al Qaeda trains people to lie like this.

00:24:43.000 When the Attorney General was ordering people, when he was the White House Chief Advisor, Chief Lawyer, to go ahead and torture.

00:24:52.000 It's public.

00:24:53.000 And it's all part of just getting our military used to torturing people.

00:24:57.000 They train the death squads to do it.

00:24:58.000 In Latin America, now they've hired those death squad commandos. 0.94

00:25:02.000 To go to Iraq and torture and control and kill. 1.00

00:25:07.000 And now Los Zetas, the big Mexican paramilitary troops, trained by the U.S.

00:25:12.000 government.

00:25:12.000 We had the former head of the DEA for all Latin American operations on yesterday telling you Los Zetas is clearly run by the CIA in South Texas training.

00:25:22.000 Right now they're going after rival drug gangs that aren't paying into the CIA and they're killing cops.

00:25:28.000 They're killing DEA.

00:25:30.000 They're killing Border Patrol. 0.71

00:25:31.000 They're killing citizens. 0.66

00:25:33.000 Over a hundred murders.

00:25:36.000 This is massive!

00:25:40.000 What is going on right now is huge.

00:25:45.000 Absolutely gigantic scandal.

00:25:49.000 See, they're not just going to torture people down in Latin America.

00:25:52.000 They're not just going to torture them in Iraq.

00:25:55.000 They are creating the Cadres, the forces, the evil crews, as they're called, like a gangs of pirates that have been vetted and given a taste of blood for here in America.

00:26:10.000 And then they're preparing your psychology, your palate.

00:26:14.000 Your taste for this, with Threat Matrix and 24, every episode, torturing people.

00:26:19.000 And they always deserve it.

00:26:20.000 They're always bad.

00:26:21.000 It's always the right thing to do.

00:26:23.000 And NYPD Blue in their last episode, and all those other shows, and L.A.

00:26:27.000 Law, and Boston Legal.

00:26:30.000 We play those clips here.

00:26:31.000 Torture is the American virtue. 0.99

00:26:33.000 Torture is good.

00:26:33.000 Our own Attorney General says torture is good.

00:26:36.000 They even talk about real cases on TV.

00:26:40.000 But it's for you! 0.99

00:26:41.000 And then see, the cops are never going to find any real terrorists unless it's Los Zetas killing them for the CIA, and they'll think, they'll go, thank you, kill me, Bush! 1.00

00:26:49.000 Have your CIA forces kill me! 0.99

00:26:51.000 I love you, I'll turn my guns in, I'm so conservative! 0.99

00:26:54.000 You know, real stuff like that's going on, but that'll all be ignored, just in regional newspapers, never nightly news, car bombs going off in Dallas, machine gunning death.

00:27:04.000 Average person outside of the border states has no idea.

00:27:08.000 Total dead tourism on the border.

00:27:10.000 Massive shutdowns in the economy.

00:27:13.000 Seriously, I've got the newscast from the website, from Fox News down the border, but never nationally on the news.

00:27:21.000 No, no, no.

00:27:22.000 It's a cop in Tampa.

00:27:24.000 A guy's gone and checked himself in the hospital.

00:27:26.000 He goes, yeah, I took cocaine, yeah, I'm overdosing.

00:27:29.000 Well, get a urine sample.

00:27:30.000 Well, I can't.

00:27:31.000 So they strapped him down, catheterized him, he still won't, which the cop should have known he couldn't hold back.

00:27:36.000 And the cop tasers him again.

00:27:39.000 Of course the cop got fired, but he thought, you know he watched the TV shows, he thought this is what you do.

00:27:45.000 They give them this pressure training, where they choke protesters, make them pass out.

00:27:49.000 When they wake up, they go, get up!

00:27:51.000 When they won't, they'll choke them again.

00:27:52.000 I have that video on my website.

00:27:53.000 I have them breaking pro-lifers' arms, peacefully sitting on the side of the sidewalk.

00:27:58.000 They'll lose right in front of cameras.

00:28:00.000 Arngles, compound fracture.

00:28:02.000 Boom! 0.99

00:28:02.000 Bone pops out. 0.99

00:28:04.000 Cops all get excited.

00:28:06.000 Pull out their billy clubs, stand around the person like they're going to beat them some more. 0.85

00:28:09.000 You know, Catholic priests, people like that.

00:28:11.000 And then the federal judge, we've got it, it's in my documentary by the way, it's in martial law, the federal judge just says, hey, we're allowed to do this.

00:28:23.000 So you think it's just for them A-Rabs? 1.00

00:28:27.000 And I was on Mankow's huge syndicated radio broadcast out of Chicago, I was on there with What's Alec Baldwin's, one of his twit brothers, Stephen Baldwin, the so-called born-again Christian this morning, and I've said, well you think Bush is so Christian, you're so Christian now, Bush is, goes to Bohemian Grove, Bush is involved in all this stuff, Bush worships at Shinto shrines and prays to Allah, and all Stephen Baldwin could do was laugh at me.

00:28:58.000 You know, he couldn't even argue with me.

00:29:00.000 Then I got booted off the show because Russell Crowe came on.

00:29:03.000 Man, that show's incredible.

00:29:04.000 I've been on there two days in a row. 0.97

00:29:06.000 And it's ridiculous. 0.77

00:29:08.000 I'm on there and it's like William Shatner. 0.87

00:29:11.000 Or it's, you know, Evander Holyfield.

00:29:15.000 Or next, it's Alex, you got anything to say to Bill Murray?

00:29:19.000 I'm sitting there.

00:29:21.000 And again, I'm not sitting here dropping names of Hollywood people.

00:29:25.000 The point is, I'm on this show being able to argue with people.

00:29:31.000 Or just throw little things out at him.

00:29:33.000 It's just so many good Christian conservatives, like Stephen Baldwin.

00:29:37.000 I'm sure he's a good guy.

00:29:38.000 And I certainly don't agree with his brother, Alec Baldwin, but they're both... Both of them are wrong.

00:29:43.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:33:28.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're back live, and while we're connecting to our guest in England, I wanted to cover a few more news items, and then we'll, of course, get to all of your calls as well.

00:33:45.000 Well...

00:33:47.000 But there is just so much news here So much different things that are happening and it just frustrates me if the American people would just read the government documents, read the legislation, would find out what is in Patriot Act 2.5, then they'd know what liars these politicians are!

00:34:05.000 But you know, the American people know who the liars are.

00:34:11.000 The American people really know what's going on.

00:34:14.000 I mean, you all know they said weapons of mass destruction.

00:34:18.000 You all know that they said that they were never going to use Social Security as an ID number.

00:34:24.000 You know the thousands of things that they lied to you about.

00:34:29.000 And you just decide to accept the lie.

00:34:31.000 Well, that's what they all do.

00:34:34.000 Let's give a group of people unlimited amounts of money, the printing presses to print it, let's give them secret police, let's give them hundreds of millions of dollars of secret intelligence agencies, and let's just let them lie to us, and everything will be alright.

00:34:46.000 Things won't get corrupt, we won't get tyranny, no!

00:34:50.000 And if you run into a bunker full of TNT and stick a flamethrower to it, it's not going to blow up either.

00:35:00.000 You know, if you stick a dynamite in your mouth and light it, you're going to be just fine.

00:35:05.000 I mean, this is... I don't even have to argue about this anymore.

00:35:09.000 What is the point?

00:35:10.000 Stop being in denial.

00:35:12.000 What was that, Scott?

00:35:14.000 Oh, good.

00:35:14.000 You know, I want to play a nice song for you guys.

00:35:16.000 We'll get our guest on.

00:35:18.000 So here it is.

00:35:18.000 Thank you.

00:35:41.000 Some would make him king, others couldn't stand the net.

00:35:50.000 The cross was a solution, but he rose again.

00:35:58.000 Wise men follow him, and he roams again.

00:36:04.000 Wise men follow him.

00:36:07.000 Thank God for the renegade, and the life in need.

00:36:13.000 For the head of the trade.

00:36:18.000 Without the renegade, the Lord knows where to go.

00:36:26.000 When it comes to heroes and renegades of life.

00:36:42.000 They railed against the crowd with another ragtag band.

00:36:48.000 Declaring independence They laid their bodies down On a bloody wall A liberty for their descendants Thanks to the renegades We're free today Thanks to the renegades We're free today.

00:37:17.000 Thank God for the renegades.

00:37:21.000 And the lives they lead.

00:37:24.000 Far ahead of their time.

00:37:29.000 Without the renegades, Lord knows where we'd be.

00:37:36.000 When it comes to heroes, the renegades are mine Where come the renegades?

00:38:05.000 In the world today, who are the renegades?

00:38:12.000 In the world today, who hang out for the renegades?

00:38:18.000 And the lives they lead are far ahead of their time.

00:38:26.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen.

00:38:27.000 A thousand renegades.

00:38:29.000 Doctor.

00:38:31.000 Arpad Huzai, Ph.D., received his degree in chemical chemistry at Budapest, Hungary and his B.S.

00:38:39.000 in physiology and Ph.D.

00:38:41.000 in biochemistry at the University of London in England.

00:38:44.000 Over his nearly 50-year career, he worked at the universities and research institutes in Budapest, London, Chicago, U.S., Scotland, so many other major research institutes.

00:38:55.000 He has published close to 300 primary peer-reviewed papers and wrote or edited 12 scientific books in the past 30 years.

00:39:05.000 He pioneered research into the effects of dietary lictins, carbonated reactive proteins, including those trans-genetically expressed in GM crop plants on the gastrointestinal tract.

00:39:21.000 Since his contract was not renewed with Rowet as a result of disagreements, Dr. Pouzai has been lecturing on the GM potato research all over the world and acting as a consultant to groups starting up research into the health effects of GM food.

00:39:38.000 And here's the headline out of the London Independent.

00:39:40.000 When GM food is fed to rats, their kidneys and blood counts are affected and their brains are affected.

00:39:46.000 How would it affect humans?

00:39:47.000 And he was ostracized really six years ago and demonized, but all his research has turned out to be true.

00:39:52.000 He was pro-GM crops, working to further them.

00:39:56.000 He thought it was a great thing and kept finding problems.

00:39:58.000 Doctor, thank you so much for joining us.

00:40:00.000 Sorry we got connected a little bit late.

00:40:02.000 Well, thank you very much for connecting me.

00:40:06.000 I'm very glad to be able to speak to you.

00:40:10.000 Well, it's a great honor to have you.

00:40:12.000 Arpad, am I pronouncing your name right?

00:40:16.000 Perfect.

00:40:17.000 Fantastic, you're a sweetheart.

00:40:19.000 In a nutshell, tell us about the scandal of six years ago.

00:40:22.000 Well, first, who you are, what you pioneered, your views on GM foods and genetically modified organisms, and then what you discovered studying this.

00:40:32.000 Well, we were one of those very few groups who tried to do nutrition in a more 21st century manner of looking at what it does to our gastrointestinal tract and what are the consequences of that.

00:40:52.000 And as such, because of our track record on this field, in 1995 the The Ministry of Agriculture in Scotland had singled us out and accepted our project to look at the safety of genetically modified crops and food.

00:41:15.000 And we were to produce a blueprint for the testing of biological testing of all genetically modified crops and the foods made out of them.

00:41:32.000 And we got this project, which was about three million dollars worth, against 27 other opposition laboratories.

00:41:44.000 And just like as you mentioned that we did We didn't actually believe in the safety on the basis of what we knew about at the time in 1995.

00:42:00.000 We believed that these things were safe, just we should then set up a program and we started to investigate any potential consequences of growing GM crops and eating foods made out of them, and we use the genetically modified potatoes as our model for these studies.

00:42:28.000 Very quickly, I have to tell you that as we went along with the research program, which included about 30 other scientists, and I coordinated the whole program, We were beginning to get very worrying results.

00:42:50.000 The results were that we could not correlate gene expression in the potato plant with its protection against pests.

00:43:08.000 which was a worrying thing for a conventional biochemist.

00:43:14.000 Now, doctor, let me just interject here.

00:43:17.000 I've got about 15 different news reports here in front of me.

00:43:20.000 I've tried to research this before having you on, but obviously it's a very complex and delicate field, and I don't even have a minor in biology. 0.68

00:43:30.000 So you're talking to a caveman here, and I would imagine most of the audience is as ignorant as I, even though we've tried to be informed.

00:43:36.000 We just know about the bad health effects. 0.81

00:43:38.000 From what I've read, a lot of the funding was via the industry itself, so you were not some outside group trying to prove something bad.

00:43:48.000 You were trying to basically prove that it was good.

00:43:51.000 Now, if I'm improper in saying that, correct me.

00:43:54.000 For this work, we didn't get a penny from The industry, it was all by the British taxpayers.

00:44:05.000 But I have read that you've done a lot of industry studies though, and you were pro GM.

00:44:09.000 Oh yes, oh yes, a lot of industry studies.

00:44:12.000 In fact, we have several international patents as well on this field of The carbohydrate reactive proteins and their potential use in... I guess my point is this, sir.

00:44:28.000 You were not some person attacking the industry.

00:44:31.000 You were their boy.

00:44:33.000 No, I think that... I mean, I retired officially in 1990 because we have to retire at 60.

00:44:43.000 And from there on, I financed all my research Yes, because in this particular project, my funding was from the British taxpayer.

00:44:57.000 and your build is a whistleblower I mean you were inside their system the head of a major research program why yes yes I think that I you know because in this a particular project my funding was from the British taxpayer I had to tell them what I found and that's where the problem started Because we were beginning to find worrying things.

00:45:27.000 Well Dr. For a layman listening who doesn't understand all of this, in simple childish terms for myself and others, please explain the problems you found.

00:45:40.000 You know, for example, if you have a more gene product in the transgenic plant, you ought to have more protection.

00:45:53.000 And we didn't find this.

00:45:55.000 But when it came to the actual feeding studies, then we also found that although we strictly compared the GM with the non-GM parent, when we fed it to laboratory animals,

00:46:15.000 And we found that in the long term, 110 days, we were the first ones to use a long 110 day experiment, which is about 10 years in human terms, roughly.

00:46:33.000 We found that the young animals were not growing as efficiently as when they were fed The diet containing the non-GM equivalent potato based diet.

00:46:51.000 So out of the gate you found that for the same calorie intake versus a natural potato versus the genetically modified potato you were getting stunted growth in the rats?

00:47:02.000 Yes, it was significant and a number of times people were saying that But the post-study studies only showed that rats don't like raw potatoes.

00:47:18.000 I have to tell you that this 110 day study was with fully cooked potatoes.

00:47:24.000 One hour at 100 degrees.

00:47:27.000 Fully boiled potatoes.

00:47:29.000 Well, it doesn't matter because you had one control group.

00:47:31.000 I've got the study here.

00:47:33.000 One control group giving the non-GM potato.

00:47:35.000 They're gobbling that.

00:47:36.000 They're gobbling the GM potato, but they're not growing.

00:47:40.000 But that's not all you found, is it?

00:47:42.000 No, no.

00:47:43.000 The other thing was that, you see, when you are developing your body, your inside, all the organs inside you are developing as well.

00:47:55.000 And you can compare the normal development of, let's say, internal organs like liver, lungs, heart, brain, as you mentioned in your introduction.

00:48:11.000 You can compare the GM fed animal with a non-GM fed animal, which is an equivalent diet.

00:48:20.000 It contains the same amount of protein, the same energy, the same vitamins, the same everything, except that the GM contains This genetically expressed protein, very, very, very small amounts.

00:48:37.000 And we found that the organ development was not comparable.

00:48:42.000 Some of the organs, like the gut, was growing faster.

00:48:47.000 Some of the organs were going slower.

00:48:50.000 So you're talking about expressions of really deformity.

00:48:57.000 Yes, yes, I think that you can put it that way.

00:49:01.000 We just prefer to say that there was a statistically significant difference in the development.

00:49:09.000 You remember, these are young animals.

00:49:12.000 I'm also reading that it changed their blood counts, it caused bizarre problems in the brain.

00:49:18.000 Can you specifically speak on that, Doctor?

00:49:20.000 Yeah, well, you see, it's not just that there were

00:49:29.000 We did do tests which would be done to you if you went into hospital and they wanted to find out whether your immune system will respond as fast as a normal person and we did this immune responsiveness test as well and we found that the GM fed rats have

00:49:56.000 Considerably reduced, reduced back to the baseline effect on responsiveness, immune responsiveness, which in practical terms Means quite simply that if you get an infection or those rats do get an infection, their immune system will only produce antibodies to fight this infection much slower.

00:50:25.000 And this was probably one of the most Worrying aspect of our results.

00:50:32.000 Absolutely unbelievable.

00:50:34.000 Doctor, I want to keep you as long as possible because I want to get into what happened once you announced this.

00:50:39.000 How you were demonized and now all these other studies, independent of yours, have mirrored or even shown worse results than you got.

00:50:47.000 Validating and vindicating you.

00:50:49.000 Incredible courage.

00:50:51.000 So please stay with us, Doctor.

00:50:53.000 This is just amazing.

00:50:54.000 About half the food on our store shelves in America.

00:50:58.000 Has this trash in it?

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00:54:23.000 Very busy man.

00:54:25.000 Again, literally in the top five in his field in Some say the top of this field, numero uno, when it comes to specifically studying what manipulating the genes and the proteins that it gives rise to.

00:54:39.000 And the key thing he just said, and correct me doctor if I'm wrong here, because again you are the world leading expert on this, and I'm just a layman, but I study this intently.

00:54:47.000 Number one, genetically altering this particular potato didn't even make it more resistant to disease.

00:54:57.000 It didn't even do anything.

00:54:59.000 to help, but it did allow them to get a patent on it.

00:55:02.000 Ah, that's key, take over the biosphere.

00:55:05.000 And then it just gave rise to stunted growth, but your intestines growing faster, other organs growing slower, and I've got the reports here, all sorts of brain development problems.

00:55:18.000 And understand, this was back in the mid-90s.

00:55:21.000 Now it's cockroach genes, and salmon genes in your corn, and your tomatoes, and spider goats, and just wild, insane, Island of Dr. Maru type stuff, uncontrolled, going on everywhere, sir!

00:55:38.000 And they just keep bringing this stuff to market here in the United States, and feeding it to us, and almost all the processed foods are full of it.

00:55:46.000 This is a crisis!

00:55:48.000 Well, I think that your own scientists in America ought to be doing much more about it, because it is very difficult to do these experiments.

00:56:01.000 They are extremely expensive.

00:56:04.000 But you ought to be putting more pressure on your government to release more money.

00:56:10.000 But Doctor, we do have the studies.

00:56:12.000 We have Monsanto's own internal studies.

00:56:14.000 I have Associated Press in front of me.

00:56:16.000 They knew this stuff a decade ago, but why would they still sell this?

00:56:20.000 Well, you have to ask them.

00:56:24.000 I don't really know.

00:56:25.000 But what I can tell you, and this is absolutely true, they have actually studied all our work.

00:56:34.000 And they are trying to imitate it, but they are doing it in such a way that they keep the results confidential.

00:56:44.000 So they are not releasing the results.

00:56:47.000 And the only reason why I know about it is because some of the studies which they have done and they submitted to the European Food Safety Agency even though that they are confidential, they are sort of leaking out into the common people. - Here's one out of Reuters.

00:57:14.000 Secret Monsanto research teams show GM maize damage, the health of rats.

00:57:21.000 That's maize.

00:57:23.000 And then I've got another report with almost identical headline, Cape Times, the major paper of South Africa.

00:57:27.000 Secret Monsanto research shows GM maize damage, the health of rats.

00:57:32.000 I mean, this is unbelievable.

00:57:36.000 Yeah, well, it is.

00:57:37.000 Unfortunately, it is true, even though that it is unbelievable.

00:57:42.000 You see that if you are designing an experiment properly, and they follow the sort of guidance, remember that I had about 30 years of experience with this type of research.

00:57:56.000 This can be done.

00:57:58.000 If it is done well enough, then you will be able to find out the true results, the true consequences.

00:58:06.000 But don't these guys know, these companies, that their daughters and sons are eating this stuff?

00:58:13.000 Well, I think that they all have to settle this with their own conscience, because people are very good of explaining things to themselves if it is in their interest to... Making excuses.

00:58:29.000 Yeah, well I think that they are just finding excuses.

00:58:33.000 Now, look, we don't know what will be the consequences, you know, 20, 30 years down the line.

00:58:43.000 I think we can't even do experiments in that sort of length of time.

00:58:47.000 Yeah, stay there, sir.

00:58:48.000 Stay there.

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00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:59:15.000 All right, I literally have Fifteen different major newspaper and newswire reports that I printed off in the last few days, I've been reading over.

00:59:33.000 I have the actual synopses of major studies done in Russia, China, Germany, England, Finland, Britain predominantly, and the leakage of secret reports by Monsanto and others here.

00:59:51.000 They are doing horrible things to the entire food crop line.

00:59:56.000 They're buying up all the other little seed companies.

00:59:59.000 All the major studies that come out that have looked at this show massive health effects.

01:00:04.000 I mean, from what I've seen, to put it in layman's terms, a lot worse than smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.

01:00:10.000 I mean, your body doesn't absorb this properly.

01:00:13.000 It screws you up.

01:00:15.000 But we've got the world expert on, so again, it's like a Caveman talking to a spaceman here when it comes to this subject.

01:00:25.000 It makes me so angry.

01:00:27.000 I've got children.

01:00:28.000 I've got a family.

01:00:29.000 And I don't appreciate the fact that we're not like England, where this stuff is controlled and basically banned and where Europe won't let it in.

01:00:36.000 They are putting this everywhere and they're not even labeling it.

01:00:39.000 75% of your food can be genetically modified and 25% not and then they'll put a label on it calling it organic.

01:00:47.000 Stop hurting my family!

01:00:49.000 I'm getting emotional about this.

01:00:51.000 It's like everything else these people do.

01:00:52.000 The depleted uranium.

01:00:54.000 They know what it does.

01:00:55.000 It's like the tainted blood from HIV and Hepatitis that shipped all over the world.

01:00:59.000 Knowing what it had in it.

01:01:00.000 That's how evil these people are.

01:01:02.000 Alright, I'm sorry.

01:01:03.000 We have the good doctor.

01:01:06.000 our pod who's tied joining us uh... who again leader in the field progenetically uh... modified guy did his own major studies of the british government found out how bad it was put out his results and was demonized for it doctor please continue so so you start announcing this uh... what six seven years ago what happened to you well i think that uh... for uh... about seven months

01:01:31.000 i was uh... totally gagged because uh... i had to sign a contract with the institute uh... where i worked uh...

01:01:43.000 that i would not uh... be able to say anything without uh... the written permission uh... of my director Now, my director actually agreed to me giving this TV interview in 1998, so that was all right.

01:01:57.000 TV interview in 1998, so that was alright.

01:02:02.000 But then after that, when the results started to come in, and the politicians have realized that what I did say,

01:02:17.000 even though it was very mild, what I did even though it was very mild, what I did say did hurt this huge global industry, the GM biotechnology industry's interest, and as most of the companies, the

01:02:33.000 Countries, particularly America and some countries in Europe, including my own here, have put a great deal of money into the development of these crops, but without first making sure that these crops are safe.

01:02:54.000 They were beginning to put this huge political pressure on me.

01:03:01.000 And because of my contract that told me that I cannot speak without my director's permission.

01:03:09.000 You couldn't defend yourself?

01:03:10.000 It was a very simple thing to do.

01:03:11.000 They just told me to shut up and otherwise they will take me to court and ask for an Uh, specified, uh, uh, uh, damage, uh, to, to damage the reputation of, of, uh, my institute.

01:03:27.000 Doctor, we've got a quick break, a long segment coming up, so you'll have plenty of time to get it all out.

01:03:32.000 You were demonized, you were attacked, and then now all these other studies come out, and you were absolutely right.

01:03:38.000 And you just told the truth.

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01:07:17.000 We're talking to Arpand Pouzai, PhD, doctorates in different types of genetic engineering, recognized by the major biotech industry institutions and major universities as the preeminent expert in multiple sub-disciplines of genetic engineering.

01:07:44.000 He's been doing it for 50 years, and he's worked for most of the large companies, and then in the mid-90s he was doing detailed, long-term studies in rodents, which are one of the closest mammals to our metabolism from what I've read, that and pigs.

01:08:01.000 And it was, again, retarding their growth.

01:08:04.000 And we're talking about just a hundred and something day study.

01:08:06.000 Retarding their growth, making their intestines grow faster, their other organs grow smaller, weird blood counts, brain problems, and even worse stuff.

01:08:16.000 I mean, I'm here looking at just stacks of articles.

01:08:18.000 And he was dealing with a potato that had one gene manipulated.

01:08:23.000 And correct me, Doctor, if any of this is wrong.

01:08:25.000 Now, Sir, before we get back into how they tried to crucify you, and you've been proven right, now they're just wildly creating transgenetic organisms with three, four organisms in one creature, pigs that almost have entirely human brains, mice with human brain makeup,

01:08:43.000 Spider goats creating body armor out of their udders, just cockroach genes in tomatoes, salmon genes in corn, live pharmacological corn, protein gene in Texas, 96 locations, corn that grows, live AIDS virus, HIV, and sir, I tell people this as I read medical and scientific journals and they laugh at me, doctor, is this or is this not really going on?

01:09:09.000 Well, it is going on, unfortunately.

01:09:12.000 I mean, there are some really extreme examples, but the basic thing about them is always the same.

01:09:22.000 We can do a lot of things now.

01:09:25.000 We can transfer a gene from any organism into any other organism.

01:09:32.000 And once you can do these things, there is no end to it.

01:09:37.000 There is no control over it.

01:09:41.000 People will just do it, and if there is any money to be made out of it, then they will get the financial support, and therefore things will be done.

01:09:58.000 Unfortunately, that's how it is.

01:10:01.000 It seems to be totally out of control.

01:10:04.000 Well sir, I've interviewed a lot of your peers and other top scientists who have said, and this is actually a large group in the field listeners, I would say the majority, but they get ostracized and don't get the big funds, that these cross-species creations could give rise to super viruses at any time, could jump into other species, it's already happened with plants.

01:10:27.000 Am I correct in saying that?

01:10:28.000 Are they correct?

01:10:29.000 Well they are correct because you see that when people were talking about the Human Genome Project we were talking about 2.4% of all the genes which 2.4% of all the DNA which is in our genome and the rest we don't know anything about.

01:10:55.000 Now some of it is coming from former infections, viral infections, and you do get bits of DNA in your genome which is originated from viruses or bacteria, and they are and you do get bits of DNA in your genome which is originated Viruses or bacteria, and they are just sleeping there.

01:11:19.000 According to the experts that I've interviewed, and I want to get your expertise on this, is it not almost a record of humankind's experiences locked up, and they thought that most of the crystalline structure wasn't even used, but now they're finding that the 4% that they were trying to manipulate, that they thought was the total, actually plugs in to the other crystalline structure, almost like a computer system?

01:11:41.000 Well, yes, I think that, you see, the Human Genome Project, when they found only 22,400 genes, and when the body does, or the cells do contain up to something like 200,000 proteins, or the cells do contain up to something like 200,000 proteins, it is impossible for 24,000 genes to produce 200,000 proteins unless those genes can genes

01:12:11.000 Those genes can be used with the...

01:12:14.000 Help of these networks of the 96% or 97% of the other so-called junk DNA. 0.98

01:12:25.000 But it's not junk, is it?

01:12:26.000 No, it isn't junk, but this is how it was regarded for a long time.

01:12:31.000 So these men thought they were God, and IBM just said, no, it's all junk, and we know how to control it now, but they're not finding that, are they?

01:12:38.000 No, they don't know how to control it.

01:12:40.000 They don't even know how it functions.

01:12:43.000 You see that it is very, very difficult to find out these interconnections.

01:12:48.000 Can you really imagine that you have a... Well, just with 15 or 20 prime numbers you can give rise to unlimited mathematical calculations above Gulag.

01:13:02.000 But on top of it, these are not just numbers.

01:13:06.000 These are, as I say, they are

01:13:12.000 A sort of history, like you said before, it's human history is being deposited there, and they will be usable, they can be resuscitated, they can be pieces of DNA which is silent now, can be made active again, because we are putting in parasitic elements by this

01:13:40.000 Transgenic technology to get everything working again.

01:13:46.000 You can make with these switches, these promoters.

01:13:52.000 So they are literally playing with the fabric of the life force itself, the face of God, and they don't even know what they've touched.

01:14:00.000 They don't.

01:14:01.000 You see, one of the problems with scientists that they After the time they believe that they are gods.

01:14:12.000 There is no, you know, in most of the scientists I met, with very few exceptions, there is very little humility in them.

01:14:22.000 They're very arrogant.

01:14:23.000 Yes. 0.99

01:14:25.000 Yes, that's it.

01:14:27.000 They think that, oh, if I can do this, I must do it.

01:14:31.000 But that's... you ought to really think now that we have the means of, as I say, transferring one gene from any organism into any other organism.

01:14:46.000 So, Sarg, have you found with this particularly genetically engineered potato, with one gene being manipulated, That it then did a bunch of other stuff and caused major health problems in rats.

01:14:57.000 Right.

01:14:59.000 And now all the other studies are coming out with what other similar things have done.

01:15:03.000 What must be the consequences of just the wild transgenetic organisms they're creating? 1.00

01:15:12.000 Well, you see, you just imagine that you are shooting in something A piece of DNA into a very, very complicated network.

01:15:26.000 Just imagine what would happen if you started shooting at your computer.

01:15:34.000 You don't know what is going to happen to it.

01:15:36.000 It is all the printed circuits, all the huge networks of connections.

01:15:43.000 You can get anything out of it.

01:15:48.000 When you have these transgenic plants, for example, these are events.

01:15:54.000 They are, most of the time, not reproducible events.

01:16:00.000 It is one event.

01:16:05.000 Yes, yes, but it's a very, very complicated slot machine and the consequences... So you might get a billion different things that happen?

01:16:17.000 The consequences are totally unpredictable and some of those consequences will...

01:16:24.000 Definitely come later.

01:16:26.000 And so what they've done is just wildly done this and brought it to market here in America.

01:16:31.000 Europe won't touch it.

01:16:32.000 England's picking it out.

01:16:33.000 They're smart.

01:16:34.000 What is wrong with Americans?

01:16:36.000 Because most Americans are eating this stuff every day.

01:16:40.000 Why, you see, there is this great American virtue Which has got a bit out of step with reality.

01:16:52.000 This is to fix it.

01:16:55.000 The Americans were always great fixers. 1.00

01:16:58.000 There is a problem, we'll fix it.

01:17:01.000 But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

01:17:06.000 Here, there was not a problem to fix.

01:17:10.000 They fixed something and then they started to look for the problem.

01:17:14.000 You know, the whole thing is reversed.

01:17:16.000 Yes.

01:17:17.000 And that we're going to suffer the consequences of that.

01:17:23.000 You see, we can put in the gene, but we cannot take it out.

01:17:30.000 So now, sir, I've read about... This is going to be an irreversible technology.

01:17:35.000 It's the first time in our human existence.

01:17:39.000 Even nuclear power you can switch off.

01:17:44.000 It will take a long time, But you can switch off.

01:17:47.000 With this one, you cannot switch it off.

01:17:49.000 Let me ask you this question.

01:17:52.000 To use this analogy so people can get this, it's as if they've released and metastasized all these cancer cells into the global biosphere, and then they'll infect other people's healthy crops that are natural crops, and then claim they own those crops when they're releasing a toxic waste.

01:18:11.000 Yeah, but I mean, as I say, anything is possible now.

01:18:15.000 You can...

01:18:17.000 select out people with red eyes or blue eyes and they will be reacting to some particular form of bioterrorist weaponry.

01:18:32.000 You know, you can get that.

01:18:35.000 Race specific.

01:18:35.000 Because if at the end of the day it is controlled by our DNA, our makeup, we can always somehow interfere with that.

01:18:46.000 Stay there, Doctor.

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01:23:07.000 Dr. Arpad, who's Thai, has multiple degrees.

01:23:13.000 Of course, one from the University of London in England in biochemistry, genetic engineering.

01:23:18.000 He is recognized as one of the top five leading experts in the world On genetically engineered food crops and particularly on the proteins that are exhibited.

01:23:33.000 We were just talking during the break.

01:23:34.000 He's agreed to stay a little bit longer even though he's extremely busy because this is life and death.

01:23:40.000 During the break, sir, I wish people could have heard what you said.

01:23:43.000 We were talking about, I said, a lot of scientists are saying that they're just wildly testing this stuff.

01:23:47.000 It could easily give rise to something that could kill entire biospheres. 0.95

01:23:51.000 And you said it could kill hundreds of millions of people.

01:23:55.000 And you said we're playing with our lives.

01:23:57.000 Can you please talk about that?

01:23:59.000 Yes, I think that what you now have this huge potential To do good or bad.

01:24:12.000 To more or less get rid of a lot of things which were not possible to be done, to do in the past.

01:24:25.000 We have this huge potential to interfere with the genetic makeup of living organisms on Earth.

01:24:39.000 And as we can do this, it is dependent on how we do it, how well, how consciously we are, and conscientiously we look at the possible consequences of all this.

01:24:57.000 And if it is no good, then we ought to stop doing it.

01:25:03.000 Or we should not even start doing it.

01:25:06.000 But instead, sir, there's no controls, and Dick Cheney says that we should legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons, which you brought up, and Dick Cheney in a government document says our government's developing this.

01:25:21.000 But, look, why is it developing?

01:25:26.000 America already is the only huge, uncontested superpower.

01:25:34.000 It has got atom bombs, hydrogen bombs, biological weapons.

01:25:42.000 They can do away with the world population a hundred times over, a thousand times over.

01:25:50.000 Why do we have to develop

01:25:53.000 uh... these uh... uh... weapons which will uh... uh... if it gets into the hand of of uh... of the wrong people terrorists and others uh... they can do as much damage to you as to themselves so i don't don't understand why it is that uh... this huge development dollar billions and trillions are poured into

01:26:22.000 Research of something which is a more effective killing machine.

01:26:28.000 That's what it is.

01:26:30.000 And then that causes an arms race and gets the Chinese and the Russians to start doing it. 0.97

01:26:34.000 Yes, but do you see that we thought that at the time that when there was the competition, the arms race between America, the United States and the Soviet Union,

01:26:52.000 That when that was over, we thought that now is the time when America can use its huge potential and its huge resources and manpower and brainpower to make life better.

01:27:11.000 So why the hell should we develop weapons of unimaginable destructive power?

01:27:19.000 That once they're released, they don't even know what they'll do, and then we go back to the simple potato that literally mutates and deforms while you eat it, and they put it out there on the store shelves, the maize, the corn, the canola, just all of it.

01:27:34.000 And I've got the examples of where they plant the genetically modified, say, canola, and suddenly it jumps into weeds and then an oak tree's got it growing out of the side of it.

01:27:44.000 I mean, this stuff is like a cancer!

01:27:46.000 Well, most of the, you know, Canada, which grows a lot of canola, I don't think that you can now really Find not modified genetically modified... Because it's taken over all the other seed lines!

01:28:03.000 Yes!

01:28:04.000 Yeah, but you see that Europe stopped buying canola oil because it is almost impossible to have one Which is not containing at least some... 90 plus percent of all crop strains of corn have already been infected.

01:28:27.000 And these guys, Monsanto owns the courts.

01:28:29.000 Nobody's there to stop them.

01:28:31.000 You know, I don't know if you see that your corporate sector is so powerful... We've got a break, sir.

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01:31:50.000 We're talking to Dr. R-Pod was tied, one of the leading world experts in genetic engineering of food crops.

01:32:11.000 Amen.

01:32:12.000 Worked for the industry, pro-GM, did the major studies then for the British government, found major problems, was told to shut up about it, leaked a little bit of it, got demonized, and now all the other studies are coming out.

01:32:24.000 Industry studies, internal secret studies, and it's in the other crops the same thing.

01:32:30.000 In fact, you all heard about Starlink, corn, and all the rest of it.

01:32:34.000 A lot of these crops have even been banned in this country, but they still grow them and still stick them in your food.

01:32:39.000 And then all the others, folks, they'll just say, oh, this cockroach gene, this is a true story, it's been going on for ten years, this makes the tomato last longer.

01:32:47.000 Well, we don't know why we put a cockroach gene in it, but that's okay, and it changes a bunch of other genes by doing that, but we don't know what it'll do, but We're just going to, uh, enjoy your tomato.

01:32:59.000 And we're not going to tell you there's a cockroach gene in there.

01:33:01.000 Why, we're going to put an organic sticker on it because it's only been genetically engineered a little bit.

01:33:06.000 So it doesn't, I mean, they even got the food labeling changed two years ago.

01:33:09.000 So you don't know.

01:33:11.000 And, uh, they're just going crazy.

01:33:14.000 And now they're talking about putting vaccines, uh, that, that, in pharmacological potatoes and rice and, where you don't have a choice.

01:33:22.000 And the poor starving Africans, they're smart enough that when this stuff gets delivered, it rots on the dock.

01:33:27.000 They'd rather starve. 0.97

01:33:29.000 The European farmers have rioted and burned buildings down when they try to ship it in there.

01:33:34.000 The British are refusing to eat it.

01:33:37.000 Those genetically modified companies keep trying to ship it in there.

01:33:41.000 This is what's going on.

01:33:43.000 But here in America, most of what we eat has the Senate.

01:33:46.000 All these new health problems.

01:33:48.000 Cancer doubling every 10 years.

01:33:50.000 The sperm count down by 80 plus percent.

01:33:53.000 All these new illnesses.

01:33:54.000 All these new diseases.

01:33:56.000 All these new problems.

01:33:58.000 Massive increases in things like Crohn's disease and digestive tract problems.

01:34:03.000 Oh, we just don't know why that's happening!

01:34:06.000 Oh my goodness, folks.

01:34:08.000 And it's all about monopoly.

01:34:10.000 A Monsanto executive four years ago, this even showed up in major magazines.

01:34:15.000 said at a big meeting openly.

01:34:17.000 Oh yeah, we're taking over the genetics and we love the fact that it's spreading because we own the courts and then we get to go in and say that you have stolen from us when our genetically modified pollen blows into your field, you can prove you bought the seeds and that your plant's just been genetically, basically modified just slightly.

01:34:38.000 Oh, now we own your crops.

01:34:40.000 Now we're going to take your property. 0.97

01:34:42.000 So it's about literally infesting and causing problems in the entire genome, then claiming ownership of the life systems itself when they cause the problem.

01:34:53.000 This will be the equivalent of if I came to your yard and I dumped cyanide in your backyard.

01:34:59.000 And your children breathed it and died, and then I sued you, saying, well, I have patented cyanide, and even though I dumped it on your property, this is almost literal, folks, you, you are at fault for breathing my cyanide.

01:35:14.000 And by the way, I own the court in St. 0.61

01:35:16.000 Louis, I'm Monsanto, and so, uh, I'm gonna sue you and take your house, because I killed your kids.

01:35:22.000 Doctor, I know I'm ranting and raving and I appreciate all the time you've been spending with us, but what are ways to stop this?

01:35:28.000 The harm, a lot of it's already been done, but with the chimeras and the cross-species and human characteristics and pigs and everything else, what worries you most right now and where do you see this going? 0.93

01:35:41.000 Well, I think that the main problem is that what your show is probably trying to do, to undo, is to get the message out to the ordinary people.

01:35:59.000 because, you see, when I said in 1998 that 150-second television interview that I wouldn't eat, if I could avoid, I wouldn't eat GM potatoes, And I also said that we shouldn't use our fellow citizens as human guinea pigs.

01:36:23.000 Within two months, all the supermarkets removed genetically modified food components from their shelves because people didn't want to buy them.

01:36:34.000 But we had a very effective way of communicating with the people, the consumers.

01:36:43.000 The consumers have a huge buying power.

01:36:47.000 They are holding in their purse more power than the entire GM biotech industry has at its disposal.

01:37:00.000 Because if we don't buy it, Then there is no point of producing it.

01:37:07.000 Do you understand that it is somehow, if it is not stopped from above, then it will have to be stopped from below, because the consequences we cannot compute, we cannot predict, and if it is going to be a bad outcome,

01:37:29.000 a disastrous outcome, which it is possible that it will be, then we have no means of stopping it because it's an irreversible technology.

01:37:40.000 We learned how to put in the gene, we don't know how to take it out and how to stop the spreading of it and contaminating the Earth with it.

01:37:52.000 So, it is at this stage You must do something.

01:37:57.000 You must tell the people that there is more to it than just simply profit.

01:38:05.000 If the Americans want to profit, they can turn their huge talents and energies into other fields where they can do something good, as opposed to this, which is potentially disastrous.

01:38:24.000 And again, I keep ramming home the message.

01:38:29.000 You will not be able to stop it once it is fully out.

01:38:36.000 It's no way to turn the clock back.

01:38:39.000 Okay.

01:38:40.000 Doctor, I want to just give you a few short little examples, anecdotal examples or personal experiences I've had.

01:38:46.000 I have a family member who is on the fast track to be a bigwig executive at IBM.

01:38:53.000 Real smart.

01:38:54.000 And I was having dinner with her a few years ago, and she said, Alex, there's nothing unnatural in genetic mutation.

01:39:00.000 It's all completely normal.

01:39:02.000 There should be unlimited testing.

01:39:03.000 You know, there's no problem with genetically engineered... And I go, is this what they're telling you?

01:39:07.000 At IBM, who is funding, again, hundreds of different biotech experiments.

01:39:11.000 They're the biggest folks.

01:39:12.000 They got all these front companies.

01:39:13.000 They got their fingers in every pie, you know, in every broth.

01:39:18.000 You know, they're all over the place just funding all this insanity.

01:39:22.000 And when I talked to her, she goes, yeah, the executives don't have a problem.

01:39:25.000 They said there's no problem at all.

01:39:26.000 There's no danger.

01:39:28.000 And she said all mutation is natural.

01:39:30.000 And I was sitting there rolling my eyes at this.

01:39:33.000 And then, you know, it was almost like she was religious.

01:39:36.000 We control the genome now.

01:39:37.000 We know what to do.

01:39:38.000 And then I've talked to people who are in college right now, who are graduate students, who are in the genetic program at UT, and they're like, oh, it's no big deal.

01:39:47.000 Oh no, we control it.

01:39:48.000 Oh, this is going to...

01:39:50.000 And then I talk to the top scientific experts like yourself, I probably have 20 of you guys on, you're the most senior, and they're going, listen, I work for the big biotech companies, blah blah blah, I've done the studies, it's deadly dangerous, we could kill everyone, we've got to warn the people!

01:40:03.000 And then I talk to these little corporate people and they laugh at me, sir!

01:40:07.000 They laugh at me! 0.97

01:40:08.000 They act like this is funny, when just the most basic manipulations are diseasing these rats! 0.98

01:40:18.000 Again, where do these elites and their minions think they live? 0.90

01:40:22.000 What planet do they think this is, sir?

01:40:27.000 You are quite right that there is a great deal of irresponsibility.

01:40:32.000 It's driven by the profit motive.

01:40:37.000 They are irresponsible and they are half knowledgeable.

01:40:42.000 You know, half knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all.

01:40:47.000 Because then if you think you know, but you don't, then you can do immense harm.

01:40:55.000 And the fact of the matter is that this is a technology whose results cannot be predicted.

01:41:07.000 It's not even a technology.

01:41:09.000 When you build a bridge, you can calculate all the important factors about it.

01:41:16.000 And you know what you're designing it for, and you know what it will do.

01:41:20.000 With this one, we don't. 0.99

01:41:23.000 And if anybody is telling me that we do, then he is simply either an imbecile, or he doesn't know what he is talking about. 0.99

01:41:33.000 We don't know. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Don't know.

01:41:36.000 And that is the message.

01:41:39.000 And when you don't know, then you Take your responsible decision and try not to do it.

01:41:52.000 Take the precautionary approach.

01:41:55.000 And this is the only way that you develop step by step.

01:42:03.000 You know, all the organisms which we have now have taken billions of years to develop.

01:42:10.000 And here we are developing things within five, ten years, and they don't fit into this environment.

01:42:21.000 They don't fit into this life.

01:42:23.000 But doctor, doctor, I mean your own primary research, their internal research is now being leaked.

01:42:28.000 The most small Delicate.

01:42:32.000 Carefully looked at experiments that you and others have done.

01:42:35.000 In every case we look at when they do the study, it's giving rise to major problems in mammals.

01:42:43.000 And that's just a small manipulation, as you said.

01:42:46.000 Again, now it's, let's put four organisms in this rat. 0.99

01:42:49.000 It'll have a human brain, and pig lungs, and it'll have, and we'll have open-air goats. 1.00

01:42:55.000 In upstate New York, I had the CEO on about two years ago, Yeah, it is.

01:42:59.000 Unfortunately, we have no control over it.

01:43:00.000 and he's got hundreds of spider goats with dozens of genes changed and basically spinnerets for udders shooting out body armor.

01:43:09.000 I mean, this is insane.

01:43:10.000 That is light years down the pit of hell past changing one gene in a potato, and then it kills the rats, basically.

01:43:18.000 Yeah, unfortunately, we have no control over it.

01:43:26.000 The only control is in genetic modification of crops and food is your buying power, your purse, But for that first you must make absolutely sure that everything is labeled.

01:43:44.000 Why do you think that the corporations are so dead against labeling?

01:43:49.000 We fought very hard here in Europe to get the labeling.

01:43:54.000 What is happening?

01:43:57.000 America is taking Europe to the WTO to change this because they think that if you see that it is labeled, you might not buy it.

01:44:10.000 But they do recognize the power of the purse, the power of the money, which is in our pockets.

01:44:20.000 And if, for example, if I go into the supermarket I always very carefully check what is there, and it's not an absolute guarantee, but I try to buy organically produced stuff because I know that certainly in Britain, in my country here, there is zero tolerance for GM in

01:44:50.000 But I've got articles today where they've still been caught shipping it into your country.

01:44:54.000 And on top of this, Doctor, they passed a law two years ago to change what an organic label is.

01:45:00.000 It's just got to have 25% organic ingredients.

01:45:04.000 Yes, but you see that this is again up to the regulatory people.

01:45:10.000 They all work for the company.

01:45:12.000 It's a revolving door, as you know.

01:45:14.000 Yes, but you must insist.

01:45:16.000 It's a revolving door, but the population is the same.

01:45:20.000 Well, I'll tell you this, sir.

01:45:22.000 A lot of the environment...

01:45:23.000 We may not earn very much, but when you put it together for the 280 or 300 million Americans, U.S. citizens, there is a lot of money we're talking about.

01:45:37.000 Well, Dr. Gwini...

01:45:38.000 If once they go into Walmart or some other major supermarkets and they start to demand to have healthy food, not genetically modified, And these companies will listen.

01:45:56.000 Well, Doctor, I've just got a few minutes left with you, and it's been an incredible honor to have you on, but I've got a few final questions.

01:46:01.000 One of our biggest talk show hosts, Rush Limbaugh, will get up every week, every time I tune in I hear this, and he says genetic engineering is no big deal. 0.80

01:46:10.000 They're a bunch of liars. 0.96

01:46:11.000 This is an almost exact quote. 0.98

01:46:13.000 George Washington Carver genetically engineered plants.

01:46:18.000 Now the deception there is, even I as a layman know, cross-pollinating two closely related plants in the same family Is what nature naturally did, and there's no problem in that.

01:46:33.000 That is totally different than injecting cockroach genes into tomatoes.

01:46:38.000 Absolutely.

01:46:40.000 One of your great scientists, a US scientist, actually said that by putting a North Atlantic fish gene into tomatoes to make it frost resistant, It's an impossible situation in normal evolutionary terms because the fish would never mate with a tomato.

01:47:07.000 This is one of your great scientists who said this.

01:47:10.000 Well, genetics is so selective that the fish compete with each other, even within the same species, to selectively pass on the genes.

01:47:19.000 Yes, yes.

01:47:20.000 And the bigger the fish, the more progeny it has.

01:47:29.000 But anyway, it's They try to explain this as that what we have been doing over the three million years or whatever of human existence on Earth is that we have always been doing genetic engineering.

01:47:48.000 Now what we are doing now is not what we have been doing for three million years.

01:47:56.000 It's totally and absolutely different and even your scientists at the FDA I do recognize that the genetic engineering as we do it now is different and it presents us with different problems and different risks.

01:48:16.000 And therefore they ought to be looked at it differently.

01:48:20.000 All right, Doctor, I know that people can type in your name, ARPAD, and PUSGTAI.

01:48:29.000 We have links to articles about your great work at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I know you've written over, what is it, 30-something textbooks and hundreds of top papers, but is there any particular book you've written on this subject for a layman?

01:48:45.000 Well, I haven't actually written anything for the layman, but some of my friends in the United States have written one.

01:48:57.000 There is, for example, Jeffrey M. Smith, who produced a really beautiful book which is explaining all this.

01:49:10.000 What's the name of it?

01:49:11.000 It's called Seeds of Deception.

01:49:15.000 Seeds of Deception.

01:49:16.000 Yes, I've heard of it.

01:49:18.000 But it was actually riding very high on your list of popular authors.

01:49:26.000 Well, Doctor, I can only salute you for defending humankind and the planet.

01:49:31.000 And God bless you and thank you for spending so much time with us.

01:49:34.000 Thank you very much.

01:49:35.000 Take care.

01:49:35.000 Thank you.

01:49:36.000 God bless you too.

01:49:37.000 You bet.

01:49:38.000 And again, you know, the scientist talks about three million years, folks.

01:49:41.000 This is what God designed.

01:49:43.000 We are... They thought they knew the DNA, they got into it, and it was a billion times a billion more complex than these idiots thought. 1.00

01:49:50.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

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01:53:28.000 They enjoy it!

01:53:29.000 Okay?

01:53:30.000 They enjoy having our troops breed depleted uranium.

01:53:34.000 They enjoy All of this.

01:53:37.000 This is the globalist Henry Kissinger documents, CIA documents, Prince Philip, Ted Turner.

01:53:42.000 All they talk about is killing 80 plus percent of us. 0.63

01:53:44.000 You understand they love their father the devil. 0.98

01:53:47.000 This is spiritual, folks.

01:53:48.000 This is death.

01:53:50.000 Death is being unleashed and the globalists are being told they're going to be protected.

01:53:55.000 And they are into the occult.

01:53:58.000 They really do believe in this. 1.00

01:54:00.000 And these stupid environmental groups are out grabbing people's private property, restricting land use, things that don't hurt the environment in any way. 1.00

01:54:09.000 They get private property rights away from us and transfer it to their bosses. 1.00

01:54:13.000 Meanwhile, very few environmental groups even talk about GM.

01:54:17.000 And most of them don't even know what's going on.

01:54:19.000 So that's what, I mean, this is the, I'm an environmentalist.

01:54:23.000 I'm a survivalist.

01:54:24.000 And by survivalist, I mean this is killing everybody.

01:54:27.000 This is destroying, this is out of control. 0.98

01:54:29.000 These scientists aren't stupid at the tops of these companies. 1.00

01:54:32.000 These corporate heads aren't dumb. 0.99

01:54:34.000 Plant prote-gene live HIV corn. 0.98

01:54:37.000 Grows live HIV in 96 locations.

01:54:41.000 Five years ago.

01:54:43.000 They had a facility 20 miles outside Austin.

01:54:46.000 Open air, people!

01:54:49.000 And now there's all kinds of weird plants growing out of the sides of trees and weird stuff happening.

01:54:56.000 It's mutating and everything.

01:54:58.000 All this weird stuff's going on.

01:55:00.000 You heard the scientist.

01:55:01.000 It's happening.

01:55:03.000 It's already happening!

01:55:04.000 They've already done it to us!

01:55:07.000 Oh, no, the government wouldn't do anything to hurt us.

01:55:09.000 Let's give our guns up to them. 1.00

01:55:11.000 Let's let them force drug our children. 1.00

01:55:13.000 Let's... Heaven help us.

01:55:15.000 I mean, we are going into the end times, folks.

01:55:17.000 I mean, it's gotta be.

01:55:20.000 But the churches tell us that George Bush is basically Jesus and everything's okay and the world leader will soon be among us and he will be Jesus and we must worship him.

01:55:30.000 I mean it's twisted folks.

01:55:36.000 It is totally twisted.

01:55:37.000 Just a quick program though.

01:55:39.000 I'm sorry to have to tell you this.

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01:55:49.000 The other one It was sold out a while back.

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01:55:57.000 They didn't do that.

01:55:58.000 That's sold out.

01:55:59.000 My guests are going to have to go to the 10 o'clock.

01:56:00.000 It's that or nothing.

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01:56:03.000 I'm sorry.

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01:56:39.000 That's their religion, is death.

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01:56:43.000 They love death and were given over to a great delusion, I guess the word says.

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01:57:31.000 They'd openly kill tens of thousands of people knowingly with age-tainted blood and the government would certify it, but they wouldn't kill 3,000 of you at the World Trade Center for total martial law?

01:57:39.000 Stop being so naive. 0.96

01:57:40.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Alright, folks.

01:58:08.000 We are into hour number three.

01:58:11.000 Haven't taken any calls yet because we had a guest off last hour and, uh, twenty-five minutes or so.

01:58:18.000 A ton of other news, just so much coming up in this hour, but we've been talking about genetically engineered foods, and all the health problems they cause in laboratory animals, and then how all of those problems, the things we're doing now in genetic engineering, in open air, in uncontained areas, dwarfs that.

01:58:35.000 I mean, it could destroy us.

01:58:37.000 And it's not like nuclear weapons.

01:58:39.000 We could have a nuclear war.

01:58:40.000 No, this has already been released.

01:58:42.000 There is no telling what it's going to do, but we know it's bad.

01:58:45.000 It's already doing bad things.

01:58:46.000 I'm told Chris disagrees, so he goes to the head of the line in front of all these callers who have been holding for a while.

01:58:51.000 We'll get to you too.

01:58:52.000 Chris in Texas, is it something substantive?

01:58:55.000 Well, I just take an exception on a couple of points.

01:58:59.000 Now, I agree with you when you say the The borders need to be better patrolled and protected.

01:59:04.000 As far as illegal immigration is concerned, I agree with you there.

01:59:08.000 However, I must take exception when you criticize our peace officers.

01:59:14.000 I have an uncle who was a peace officer.

01:59:17.000 He was twice elected Sheriff of Lyons, Kansas.

01:59:21.000 And he was the very first recruit to the Quantico FBI Academy who had never been to college.

01:59:26.000 And he graduated from there, and he was a law enforcement officer.

01:59:30.000 So you're using a microcosm example.

01:59:32.000 I never said that all the police are bad.

01:59:33.000 I said the system they're carrying out is bad.

01:59:35.000 Look around you.

01:59:36.000 May I finish?

01:59:37.000 You can finish, sir.

01:59:38.000 Thank you.

01:59:39.000 I mean, can you tell me your family history?

01:59:42.000 He was one of the best officers.

01:59:44.000 He received many commendations, and he never once in his twenty-some-odd years of being a peace officer, he never once used his gun because he believed In talking to people and reasoning with people.

01:59:57.000 That sounds great!

01:59:58.000 Now, I stand up for the law enforcement officers of this country, the people who are out there protecting our rights.

02:00:06.000 Oh, they are?

02:00:07.000 Yes, they are.

02:00:07.000 I have never had any trouble with the police.

02:00:10.000 They have always been there to help me when I needed help.

02:00:13.000 Well, I've had police ask to search my car repeatedly.

02:00:16.000 That's a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

02:00:18.000 There's nothing in my car.

02:00:20.000 They don't have any reason to pull me over.

02:00:22.000 I know people who've been SWAT teamed, and they don't even say they're sorry when they leave and don't find anything.

02:00:29.000 When my vehicle was stolen.

02:00:31.000 They helped me to find it.

02:00:32.000 They located it for me the very same day.

02:00:34.000 And my vehicle was stolen and they did absolutely nothing to help me.

02:00:36.000 And they returned it to me the very same day, sir.

02:00:39.000 And when I thanked them, they said, that's why we're here, son.

02:00:41.000 They said, we're here to serve you.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, I know that.

02:00:44.000 Look, put him on hold.

02:00:46.000 Put him on hold.

02:00:47.000 Sir, protect and serve.

02:00:49.000 Peace officer.

02:00:51.000 I love peace officers.

02:00:52.000 I got a lot of family that are police.

02:00:54.000 Okay?

02:00:55.000 I don't like people in black masks who say they're the officials, the authorities, and that we're the civilians.

02:01:03.000 Did you like what the cops did at Waco?

02:01:05.000 I'm talking about the bad system, sir.

02:01:07.000 Go ahead. 0.91

02:01:09.000 Alright, another place that I take exception with you, sir, is when you refer to our Commander-in-Chief as a terrorist and a murderer.

02:01:16.000 You claim that he knew that 9-11 was going to happen and did nothing to stop it.

02:01:22.000 You know, I respect your opinion, sir, but I have to highly disagree with you.

02:01:26.000 Okay.

02:01:26.000 Well, what do you disagree with?

02:01:29.000 I believe that if George Bush knew that 9-11 was going to happen, he would have done everything in his power to stop it.

02:01:34.000 Oh, that's an actual George Bush quote!

02:01:36.000 I believe that he would have done that, sir, because really, in my opinion, sir, and this is my opinion, George Bush is a good and decent man.

02:01:44.000 He's not the best president we've ever had.

02:01:46.000 And the moon is made of cheese.

02:01:48.000 If you say so, sir.

02:01:50.000 No, no.

02:01:51.000 George Bush is a good man.

02:01:52.000 Do you believe George Bush goes to Bohemian Grove?

02:01:55.000 I know nothing about the Bohemian Grove, sir.

02:01:56.000 I want to stick to the point that I'm trying to be here.

02:01:58.000 No, you want to say he's a good guy.

02:02:00.000 I've been there, sir.

02:02:01.000 They worship the devil.

02:02:03.000 What does that prove, sir?

02:02:03.000 Just because in your little world you don't believe that when I say it, it doesn't mean I haven't been there.

02:02:09.000 Okay.

02:02:10.000 Okay.

02:02:11.000 Condescending.

02:02:11.000 I know something you don't.

02:02:14.000 Hey, why don't you stay there?

02:02:15.000 You want to go toe-to-toe?

02:02:17.000 Let's do it.

02:02:17.000 You want to talk about facts, Mac?

02:02:20.000 Let's do it, Chris, okay?

02:02:21.000 I appreciate you calling in.

02:02:22.000 You gonna stay there with us?

02:02:23.000 I'll stay here with you, sir.

02:02:24.000 Good.

02:02:24.000 You stay there.

02:02:27.000 I can't wait to plow you under, because I'm defending my family and this country.

02:02:31.000 I put my life on the line, and I know what I'm talking about, from the depths of my soul and the inner workings of my cerebral cortex.

02:02:39.000 I know what I'm saying, just as sure as the sun came up this morning.

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02:05:52.000 Alright, loaded phone lines here.

02:05:57.000 We're going to everybody's calls.

02:05:58.000 Spend a few more minutes with Chris in Texas.

02:06:00.000 And Chris, if you called up and said, Alex, you got a date wrong in your documentary, you know, I'd go fix it.

02:06:06.000 I've done stuff like that.

02:06:07.000 Or, Alex, you're wrong about this bill number.

02:06:09.000 Or, Alex, I don't see that interpretation of Section 802 that you see.

02:06:13.000 Well, here, let's read the subsection and see who's right.

02:06:16.000 But instead you just go, I don't believe, you have belief, you have faith that George Bush knew anything about 9-11.

02:06:22.000 Their own memo is public that they knew all the details.

02:06:25.000 They ordered FBI to stand down.

02:06:27.000 He signed W199I.

02:06:29.000 They flew the Bin Ladens out of the country in the days after. 1.00

02:06:32.000 They're in the Carlisle Group.

02:06:35.000 Jim Bush running security on the buildings.

02:06:37.000 Bush had the launch orders two days before 9-11 to attack Afghanistan.

02:06:41.000 44,000 U.S.

02:06:42.000 troops massing into Zikustan, Uzbekistan.

02:06:45.000 18,000 British troops.

02:06:46.000 Two aircraft carriers entered that area one day before.

02:06:49.000 On and on and on.

02:06:50.000 NORAD drills that day.

02:06:51.000 NORAD ordered to stand down drills of flying hijacked jets in the buildings.

02:06:55.000 Mayor Willie Brown getting a call from behind Lisa Rice told not to fly to New York the night before.

02:06:59.000 San Francisco Chronicle.

02:07:00.000 On and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

02:07:03.000 and on and on and on.

02:07:04.000 Hijackers, houses, cars, credit cards paid for by the U.S. government.

02:07:07.000 I mean, let's address one at a time the things you say.

02:07:10.000 You're saying you said George Bush didn't have any prior knowledge of 9-11.

02:07:15.000 My belief is for yes.

02:07:17.000 Your belief.

02:07:18.000 Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy?

02:07:18.000 Yes, sir.

02:07:21.000 I have looked.

02:07:22.000 Do you believe in Santa Claus?

02:07:24.000 Are you finished, sir?

02:07:25.000 Listen, you're the one that's talking about fairy tales!

02:07:28.000 I'm trying.

02:07:28.000 You give me some facts!

02:07:30.000 Wait, I'm going to say, if you want to make a believer out of me, sir, show me the smoking gun.

02:07:34.000 I want to see it.

02:07:35.000 Don't show me your little newspaper articles or magazine articles.

02:07:38.000 What do you mean, show me?

02:07:39.000 You show me facts, sir.

02:07:40.000 Show me a smoking gun.

02:07:42.000 It's like, show you gravity.

02:07:43.000 The evidence of gravity is all around you.

02:07:46.000 See, I've studied all the specifics.

02:07:47.000 Sir, I've got the smoking guns for prior knowledge.

02:07:50.000 They knew specifics.

02:07:51.000 Plans to fly planes into buildings in the next week.

02:07:54.000 They knew he was giving it in the CIA briefing and Rice lied and said they never got it.

02:07:59.000 Okay, then let me ask you this.

02:07:59.000 Why don't you take it to a federal grand jury and have them indict him?

02:08:03.000 We have called for that, sir.

02:08:04.000 We have contacted grand juries, state and federal.

02:08:08.000 We have done whole shows calling for grand juries to investigate.

02:08:13.000 Uh-huh.

02:08:14.000 I had Red Beckman on for two hours doing that two years ago.

02:08:17.000 I've looked over this evidence that you claim that you have, and I've read it, and it amounts to nothing.

02:08:23.000 Oh, so you just got the word nothing.

02:08:26.000 Saying the word nothing doesn't make it nothing.

02:08:30.000 If you were to take this to a federal grand jury, sir, they would laugh you out of the building.

02:08:33.000 Sure they would.

02:08:34.000 Because what you have amounts to nothing.

02:08:35.000 Now you're talking about laughing.

02:08:37.000 They would.

02:08:38.000 You use these buzzwords, sir, they mean nothing.

02:08:42.000 I am simply trying to tell you, sir, what I believe.

02:08:45.000 Okay?

02:08:45.000 Are you saying Operation Northwoods doesn't exist?

02:08:47.000 The official government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks to blame it on a foreign enemy?

02:08:52.000 Hey, I know nothing of that, sir.

02:08:53.000 Okay.

02:08:54.000 I've not known nothing of that.

02:08:55.000 Do you know about Operation Gladio that was carried out?

02:08:58.000 No, sir, I know nothing of it.

02:08:59.000 Do you know they now admit they blew up the main for the Spanish-American War in 1898 in Havana Harbor?

02:09:04.000 No, sir, I know nothing of it.

02:09:05.000 Do you know about Hitler burning his own Reichstag to blame it on his political enemies?

02:09:09.000 Yes, I know about that.

02:09:10.000 Do you know about Hitler staging an attack on a radio base on the Polish border and blaming it on the Poles? 0.99

02:09:14.000 I know that Hitler was a madman, yes, sir. 0.99

02:09:16.000 Do you know about the Hegelian dialectic of problem, reaction, solution? 0.97

02:09:20.000 Uh, I can't say that I do.

02:09:21.000 Do you know about the RAF documents they just released where they were bombing Saddam trying to get him to attack?

02:09:26.000 No, sir.

02:09:26.000 Do you know about April Gillespie telling Saddam to go ahead and invade Kuwait?

02:09:30.000 No, sir.

02:09:31.000 Well, we've got video of that.

02:09:32.000 It's been all over national news.

02:09:33.000 Okay.

02:09:34.000 Alright.

02:09:34.000 Do you know about... Look, I'm not trying to be mean to you, sir.

02:09:37.000 This is life and death.

02:09:38.000 Okay, do you know that Bill Clinton certified blood is wholesome for eight years as non-prison blood and they didn't even test it and they knew it had HIV in it and tens of thousands of people died?

02:09:49.000 Now, that I wouldn't be surprised of, sir.

02:09:51.000 You don't like Bill Clinton.

02:09:52.000 Bill Clinton's a surrogate member of the Bush family.

02:09:57.000 I mean, I've never liked Bill Clinton.

02:09:58.000 Did you know Terry Reed, CIA, was there watching the cocaine being unloaded?

02:10:02.000 No, sir.

02:10:02.000 It's never been challenged?

02:10:03.000 No, sir.

02:10:04.000 I know nothing of that.

02:10:05.000 Well, it must feel real good to know nothing about it.

02:10:10.000 I'm simply trying to tell you, sir, I don't believe that George Bush had any prior knowledge of 9-11.

02:10:15.000 That's now admitted that he had prior knowledge.

02:10:19.000 There's no proof that he had prior knowledge.

02:10:21.000 And you can say there's no proof that there's salmon in the Pacific Ocean or the Atlantic Ocean.

02:10:29.000 He had no proof of the attacks prior knowledge, sir.

02:10:33.000 You have no proof that he had prior knowledge.

02:10:35.000 Say it five more times.

02:10:37.000 He had no proof.

02:10:39.000 You have no proof.

02:10:39.000 Say it again.

02:10:40.000 I said you have no proof, excuse me.

02:10:43.000 You have no proof, sir, that he had prior knowledge.

02:10:46.000 Because if he did, he would have done everything in his power to stop it.

02:10:49.000 Hey, let me ask you a question.

02:10:50.000 I don't think you're a government agent, but I bet you're a government agent.

02:10:53.000 No, sir.

02:10:53.000 I'm just a private citizen, sir.

02:10:54.000 But I bet you work for the government.

02:10:56.000 No, sir.

02:10:56.000 No, I'm just a private citizen.

02:10:57.000 You have government contracts.

02:10:59.000 No, I'm a person who simply loves his country, sir.

02:11:03.000 So, criticizing a corrupt government is bad.

02:11:07.000 Loving your country is mindlessly going, I don't know, but you have no proof.

02:11:11.000 Well, if you want to make a believer out of me, Show me the proof.

02:11:15.000 And then maybe I'll believe you.

02:11:16.000 You can keep saying show you the money.

02:11:18.000 I already showed you the money.

02:11:19.000 You haven't shown me anything, sir.

02:11:21.000 Have you seen any of my films?

02:11:22.000 Yes, sir, I have.

02:11:23.000 What film is that?

02:11:24.000 I don't know what the names of them are, but I flip through the channels and I come across your program and I'll sit and I'll watch them.

02:11:32.000 While I agree with some of the things that you say, I don't agree with all of them, and I certainly do not agree... Let me ask you a question, Chris.

02:11:38.000 Do you believe that the CIA for client banks controls over 80% of the narcotics brought into this country?

02:11:45.000 Sir, I have no knowledge of that.

02:11:47.000 Okay, I have no knowledge of that at all.

02:11:48.000 You can either confirm or deny, huh?

02:11:50.000 Okay.

02:11:50.000 All I'm trying to say is, as I'm simply saying... Have you heard the LBJ tape released two years ago by the LBJ Presidential Museum and Library in Austin, Texas, what we already knew from the documents, where the Gulf of Tonkin never happened, and was used as a pretext that 58 million Americans died in?

02:12:07.000 No, sir, I have not heard that.

02:12:09.000 Do you believe that or do you think I'm just making that up?

02:12:11.000 Well, I wouldn't know, sir.

02:12:12.000 I don't know anything about it.

02:12:13.000 I would need to study it.

02:12:14.000 Yeah, but you can just SAY I have no proof!

02:12:17.000 You can just SAY that I don't have a shred of evidence!

02:12:20.000 The only thing I see you doing, sir, every week is bad-mouthing George Bush, telling everybody how he's a terrorist and a murderer, but you show us no proof!

02:12:29.000 You kind of remind me of a person who claims to have been kidnapped by aliens.

02:12:33.000 Ah, use that term!

02:12:34.000 You tell a real fascinating story, sir, but you can't back it up.

02:12:38.000 Okay, you can use all the buzzwords you want.

02:12:39.000 Let's go over something right now you can't even debate.

02:12:42.000 Probably not.

02:12:43.000 Did George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld say that they knew Saddam had weapons of mass destruction?

02:12:48.000 Yes, sir.

02:12:49.000 And did it turn out that wasn't true?

02:12:51.000 Well, we haven't found any.

02:12:52.000 He probably had them shipped to Syria.

02:12:54.000 No, no, no.

02:12:54.000 Oh, no, no.

02:12:55.000 They've officially said they were wrong.

02:12:56.000 Now the CIA officers have gone public and said they were ordered to lie.

02:13:00.000 We have the down... Was the Nigerian document for uranium fabricated?

02:13:04.000 I don't know, sir.

02:13:05.000 I don't know anything about that.

02:13:06.000 Was the Pat Tillman case, where they claimed he was killed by Al-Qaeda, it turns out by his own troops, was that fabricated?

02:13:13.000 I don't believe it was, sir.

02:13:14.000 I found out about that just the other day and I was very upset about it.

02:13:17.000 Well, they now admit, sir, that they lied.

02:13:19.000 Like I said, I was very upset about that because I was- Are you saying the government didn't lie?

02:13:24.000 I beg your pardon?

02:13:24.000 Are you saying they did or didn't lie?

02:13:27.000 Well, in the case of Pat Tillman, they did, sir, yes.

02:13:29.000 Okay, what about Jessica Lynch?

02:13:30.000 She cowered and feared as a Hispanic American, took out those Iraqis, but because they wanted to put women in frontline combat, they told those families to shut up, and they gave her credit for something she never did! 0.58

02:13:42.000 Then they beat up the doctors that took care of her and our dad, and made a lie about it, and had Jerry Bruckheimer produce it!

02:13:49.000 I haven't heard anything of that.

02:13:50.000 BBC, baby!

02:13:52.000 And they admit the whole thing was a lie!

02:13:54.000 Okay.

02:13:55.000 Now, as I stated before, sir... Hey, you want me to keep firing these at you for 10 hours as I can?

02:13:59.000 Sir, you can... You don't know what you're... Hey, let me tell you something.

02:14:02.000 You can fire them at me if you want to, sir. 0.99

02:14:03.000 You might make me sick. 0.52

02:14:04.000 I'm telling... Well, I'm sorry if I make you sick, sir.

02:14:06.000 I'm simply a person who loves his country, and I want to stand up... I love my country, too.

02:14:10.000 And I want to stand up for my president.

02:14:11.000 Did you hear us talking about genetic engineering in the last hour?

02:14:14.000 Yes, sir, I did.

02:14:15.000 You think that's a bunch of bull, too?

02:14:17.000 I'd have to study it, sir.

02:14:18.000 I don't know.

02:14:18.000 That's right.

02:14:19.000 He must feel really good to not know anything.

02:14:22.000 Okay, sir, I don't... You just know that you religiously don't believe me. 0.98

02:14:25.000 Sir, do you know what Skull and Bones is?

02:14:27.000 Sir, I believe some of the things you say, but not all of the things you say.

02:14:30.000 Sir, do you know what the Fool Society is?

02:14:32.000 No, sir, I don't know what the Fool Society is.

02:14:35.000 Sir, do you know what Bohemian Grove is?

02:14:38.000 No sir, I don't know what bohemian grows.

02:14:39.000 Well you better find out, because your life depends on it.

02:14:43.000 I love you, Chris.

02:14:44.000 Well sir, I... I spend 18 hours a day working.

02:14:48.000 I'm working so hard, I know what I'm talking about.

02:14:51.000 Alex, I haven't... And you can sit there and shoot your mouth off and say I don't, but you're dead wrong, brother. 0.98

02:14:55.000 Sounds to me, sir, like you're the only one shooting his mouth off. 0.98

02:14:57.000 No, I'm giving you nothing but facts, and I can keep doing it for 10 hours.

02:15:02.000 Let me ask you again!

02:15:03.000 No more buzzwords!

02:15:06.000 Put him on hold!

02:15:09.000 I'm gonna say this again!

02:15:11.000 I'm gonna say it again!

02:15:13.000 You say you don't know what Operation Gladio is!

02:15:15.000 Well, let me tell you!

02:15:17.000 This isn't some Northwoods plan that wasn't executed!

02:15:20.000 Gladio was executed!

02:15:22.000 Over a hundred bombings all over Europe, predominantly targeting children, to be blamed on political enemies of this government!

02:15:31.000 Declassify.

02:15:32.000 Can you say D with a capital D, as in Devil?

02:15:37.000 Can you say declassify?

02:15:40.000 Can you put it in your pipe?

02:15:42.000 Can you smoke it?

02:15:44.000 I don't think you can.

02:15:45.000 Can you, Chris?

02:15:46.000 Go ahead.

02:15:47.000 Sir, I just said if you want to make a believer out of me, then show me the proof.

02:15:51.000 I'm not a... No, no, no.

02:15:51.000 Not a believer.

02:15:52.000 Show me the proof.

02:15:53.000 No.

02:15:54.000 You haven't shown me anything yet.

02:15:55.000 I've shown you constant.

02:15:58.000 All you show me is these little articles that amount to nothing, sir.

02:16:02.000 Okay, let me go back to the original question.

02:16:06.000 You are saying that Bush hasn't gotten anybody killed, isn't a murderer.

02:16:11.000 On a lie, he sent our troops, over 1700 of them are dead.

02:16:15.000 Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, a million plus since the sanctions, they are torturing those people under his orders! 1.00

02:16:23.000 They are torturing them to death!

02:16:25.000 That is murder!

02:16:27.000 And when a mob boss orders his men to do something wrong, he is more culpable than his street muscle man, his enforcer thug, his soldier that did it!

02:16:39.000 I'm saying that he did not plan 9-11, sir.

02:16:42.000 He did not plan that.

02:16:43.000 Well, you're right. 0.93

02:16:43.000 He's a puppet, but his boss is dead and he was fully aware of it. 0.93

02:16:46.000 No, sir. 0.82

02:16:46.000 He had no knowledge of that at all. 0.82

02:16:48.000 And you have that emotional belief.

02:16:49.000 Yes, sir.

02:16:50.000 I do have that belief.

02:16:51.000 I have a little bit more faith in my country than you do, sir.

02:16:53.000 I have total faith in this country.

02:16:54.000 Did you know our founding fathers said, don't trust the government?

02:16:57.000 It's always pure evil.

02:16:59.000 I don't agree with everything the government does, sir.

02:17:02.000 But I like to think that I have faith in my government.

02:17:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I was in the service myself.

02:17:08.000 I was in the service myself.

02:17:09.000 I defended this country.

02:17:10.000 Oh, really?

02:17:11.000 Yes, sir.

02:17:11.000 And, uh... What, in a staged Vietnam War?

02:17:14.000 No, sir.

02:17:14.000 It wasn't a staged Vietnam War.

02:17:15.000 I was in the United States Coast Guard.

02:17:18.000 Well, I don't know what I can say to you, sir.

02:17:21.000 Uh, do you believe depleted uranium is nutritious?

02:17:24.000 Absolutely not, sir.

02:17:25.000 No.

02:17:25.000 Well, the Army's own reports say it's deadly, but our troops are breathing it.

02:17:29.000 They won't give them treatment.

02:17:31.000 Is that a friendly way to support the troops?

02:17:34.000 Anyway, Mr. Jones, you have a good day, sir.

02:17:35.000 I guess I don't support the Tribs because I care about them.

02:17:38.000 Is that it?

02:17:39.000 I care about them, too, sir. 1.00

02:17:40.000 Yeah, you care about them enough to suck your thumb. 1.00

02:17:42.000 Bye-bye, baby! 0.99

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02:21:55.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

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02:22:01.000 All right, David Mast is up next, but he just hung up.

02:22:03.000 So we got David in Arizona, Gary in Michigan, Alex in New York, and others.

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02:22:09.000 I mean, really, I just get mad at cognitive dissonance, willful ignorance, I mean, this government is so criminal, is so evil, and they lie.

02:22:25.000 More often than not, they tell the truth.

02:22:27.000 You give government unlimited power, you give them unlimited leeway, you give the corporations unlimited power, and you go, I just trust them!

02:22:35.000 I mean, that is a recipe for enslavement! 1.00

02:22:38.000 David in Arizona, go ahead.

02:22:39.000 Hey Alex, good afternoon.

02:22:42.000 What did you think of that last caller?

02:22:44.000 I think there's no doubt in my mind that he's a government shill. 0.96

02:22:48.000 That was a CIA agent or he works for some government agency and he was trying to discredit you.

02:22:54.000 I don't think so.

02:22:55.000 I mean, they'd be slicker than that.

02:22:57.000 I think he's just some good guy who probably has a government job.

02:23:01.000 He had that mentality.

02:23:02.000 And so he thinks the whole government's like him.

02:23:04.000 Uh-huh.

02:23:06.000 He thinks, oh, we're all good and you, you know.

02:23:09.000 Well, I want to make a point about the, uh, you know, he's talking about peace officers.

02:23:13.000 We do not have peace officers in America anymore.

02:23:16.000 They call themselves enforcement officers.

02:23:18.000 They are police officers and they work for the corporate municipality, which is not servant to the people.

02:23:26.000 The corporate municipality is a corporation.

02:23:29.000 It's no longer a public service agency.

02:23:32.000 We do not have peace officers in America anymore.

02:23:36.000 They are corporate employees and they serve the corporation.

02:23:39.000 They do not serve the people.

02:23:42.000 And that's what that man does not understand.

02:23:47.000 No, he doesn't understand that they enforce their regulations which are all totally opposed to the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

02:23:57.000 Exactly, and the courts All the courts in this country are operating under an illegitimate jurisdiction.

02:24:04.000 They're operating under Admiralty Maritime Jurisdiction.

02:24:07.000 By the way, I used to hear that 10-15 years ago, and now I've got federal court rulings where they're taking some lady's land, and she goes, well, I get to have a court, and I get to go, no, Admiralty.

02:24:17.000 I mean, I'm talking federal courts in Colorado.

02:24:19.000 I mean, it's in the documents.

02:24:22.000 Yes, and the only legitimate jurisdiction is common law, but we've lost our common law.

02:24:27.000 We have lost our access to the Constitution.

02:24:30.000 They give a lip service to the Constitution, but we do not have any access to it unless we rescind and revoke our contract with the federal government.

02:24:40.000 Well, you know, here's where I disagree with you.

02:24:42.000 Okay.

02:24:43.000 There's not even any law now.

02:24:45.000 They order the Border Patrol to stand down, but we've got to take national ID cards.

02:24:49.000 The $3 trillion has been stolen from the Pentagon.

02:24:51.000 There's no investigation.

02:24:52.000 It's admitted in Congress.

02:24:55.000 They use all these quote laws for us to follow.

02:24:57.000 They don't even follow their own laws.

02:24:59.000 You can rescind anything you want.

02:25:01.000 You can say whatever you want.

02:25:02.000 They just do whatever they want.

02:25:04.000 It's a battle of wills.

02:25:06.000 It's whoever's got, you know, as Tony Montana says, there's one thing in this world that gives orders, and it's about... Our Founding Fathers said the level of tyranny you will live under is the exact amount you'll put up with.

02:25:17.000 That is the law of human nature.

02:25:19.000 I'm familiar with that, yes.

02:25:23.000 And look, all the judges aren't bad, all the lawyers aren't bad, you still get some good cases, but predominantly they're evil, they're on power trips, and the evil is growing.

02:25:34.000 I like to tell people the highest caliber of criminal in the United States wears a black robe and sits behind a wooden bench.

02:25:41.000 No, I agree with you.

02:25:43.000 I mean, they are practitioners of Roman civil law that is replacing the law given down by the law giver there on the side of Mount Sinai, transferred into the Magna Carta of 1214, transferred into the Declaration of Independence, 1776.

02:25:58.000 Thanks for the call.

02:26:00.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Gary in Michigan.

02:26:02.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:26:05.000 Gary, you're on the air.

02:26:06.000 If you want to talk, go ahead.

02:26:08.000 Yeah, Alex.

02:26:09.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:26:12.000 I'd like to get in that ring with that guy, because I'll tell you what, for, oh I don't know, for the last 30 years I've kind of known what's been going on, but what I've been doing for the last two years, I've been researching.

02:26:25.000 And I'll tell you what, I'm taping your show, I've taped about probably 400 tapes, I've got at least, I'm going on 500 tapes, and I've got reading here that is just curling my hair.

02:26:40.000 I've consumed so much information, I've got to start giving it out.

02:26:43.000 What I'm doing is, I'm going tactical.

02:26:48.000 What you've got to do is, you've got to hit it locally.

02:26:51.000 You can't cram it down there, bro.

02:26:53.000 What you have to do is, it's free.

02:26:57.000 It's information I know, and I've got to hand it out before we're on our way out.

02:27:03.000 The show that you had, I was taping that.

02:27:05.000 I thought I was taping it.

02:27:06.000 Your frequency changed.

02:27:08.000 I've been in the shortwave now for... since I was 20 years old.

02:27:12.000 And I've consumed, in 30 years, I've consumed enough information that says we are living the wrong way.

02:27:20.000 Oh no, I trust my government.

02:27:22.000 Oh yeah, it's amazing.

02:27:25.000 It's amazing.

02:27:27.000 And I'll tell you what, I live in Farmington here.

02:27:30.000 I'll let you finish up when we get back.

02:27:32.000 Stay with us.

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02:30:57.000 You know, it's like the dam broke.

02:30:58.000 We're a little town five miles down.

02:31:00.000 We're about to be under 80 feet of water.

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02:31:04.000 Yeah, and I'm in a helicopter, and I saw the dam break.

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02:31:11.000 People are going, I don't believe that.

02:31:13.000 I think the men at the dam do a great job.

02:31:15.000 It's not very nice of you to talk bad about the men at the dam.

02:31:18.000 I'm like, I'm not talking about the men that work at the dam!

02:31:20.000 The dam has broken!

02:31:22.000 Well, my cousin works at the dam.

02:31:24.000 He's a very nice person.

02:31:25.000 I don't appreciate you kind of putting my cousin down.

02:31:28.000 I think police officers are really good people, and I think everything's alright.

02:31:33.000 I'm not... It's good cops and good firemen and good FBI agents and good congressmen and women that are out there that have been holding all of this back.

02:31:43.000 And so now we're being bathed in TV shows full of propaganda about torture and secret arrest and They don't just want to read the books you're reading at the library.

02:31:51.000 It's for bookstores, too, and all other records, and you can't tell anybody they were there, but the border stays wide open.

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02:32:01.000 Believe me, I wish I was wrong about all this, okay?

02:32:03.000 Believe me, I wish things hadn't gotten this serious.

02:32:07.000 And they can't move against all of us.

02:32:09.000 There's too many of us speaking out.

02:32:10.000 We are holding a lot of this back, and you better thank your bottom dollar.

02:32:14.000 Better thank God above that there's so many good listeners and so many good people out there fighting Chris in Texas that called earlier.

02:32:21.000 That's what's keeping you a little bit free, holding back just on strings from going into total martial law, which our enemies want.

02:32:30.000 Tommy Franks has said, next attack, set aside the Constitution for a military government!

02:32:37.000 You better hope and pray that you will wake up and get involved and join us, brother.

02:32:45.000 Believe me, I've had so many thousands of calls and emails over the years. 0.92

02:32:49.000 I thought you were crazy. 1.00

02:32:50.000 I thought you were a nut. 1.00

02:32:51.000 I couldn't believe it, but then I experienced it. 0.99

02:32:53.000 I saw it.

02:32:54.000 Please, we don't have time and the luxury of that learning curve.

02:32:59.000 You know what you guys are?

02:33:00.000 You're like people who are put in the bush for the first time and say, Vietnam, Southeast Asia.

02:33:07.000 That's most of the people that got killed.

02:33:09.000 You didn't know what was going on.

02:33:10.000 You were naive.

02:33:12.000 You didn't have your sixth sense turned on.

02:33:14.000 You didn't know what was going on.

02:33:15.000 But our society's full of people like you.

02:33:17.000 You're rookies to life. 0.99

02:33:18.000 You're naive. 0.57

02:33:19.000 You never lived.

02:33:20.000 You never saw the underbelly of the world like I saw growing up, okay?

02:33:24.000 I had experiences that let me really know what was going on.

02:33:26.000 The sheriff being a drug dealer, later convicted of it.

02:33:29.000 Uh, devil worshipers, uh, some of the richest families in the country, you know, living in the area where I lived. 0.96

02:33:36.000 And experiencing that, and growing up, and having people try to get me to join their cult.

02:33:41.000 And you know, being at billionaires' houses.

02:33:43.000 I mean, I've lived, okay?

02:33:45.000 By the time I was 15, I've lived more than a lot of adults have out there.

02:33:49.000 And you guys, you guys just sit there in your naive little world, and you don't know what's going on.

02:33:55.000 And you, you know in your guts it's true, though.

02:33:57.000 If you've got any soul, you've got to know.

02:34:01.000 You've got to know.

02:34:02.000 You've got to understand.

02:34:05.000 You know, I do this because I love my family.

02:34:07.000 I mean, I don't want them living in a place like this.

02:34:11.000 This is world government, world empire, world tyranny, dehumanization.

02:34:15.000 I gotta go fast.

02:34:16.000 Gary in Michigan, just finish up.

02:34:17.000 Go ahead.

02:34:18.000 We ain't got much time left.

02:34:20.000 But I got something in my head.

02:34:21.000 What I'm going to do is I'm going to associate with you, Joyce and Dave, because I got a short way radio up my... I've told this three or four times, but what else do you want to talk about?

02:34:31.000 What I got going is I got a way to beat these people.

02:34:35.000 I really do, and you've got to get the information out.

02:34:37.000 I've got 400 tapes, I've got books, I've got a book right here, Operation Vampire Killer 2000.

02:34:45.000 By Jack McClam, Police Against the New World.

02:34:47.000 Oh yeah, and that's just the basics.

02:34:49.000 I've taken 20 years of this now, and I've consumed so much.

02:34:52.000 Good, spread the word!

02:34:54.000 Keep it up Gary, we've got to move on here.

02:34:56.000 Alex in New York, Alex go ahead.

02:34:59.000 Hello, Alex?

02:35:00.000 Yes.

02:35:01.000 Oh, hello!

02:35:02.000 Wow, you have no idea how excited I am.

02:35:05.000 A few months ago, a friend of mine gave me your movie, Martial Law 9-11.

02:35:10.000 And I was totally, like, it's actually changed my life.

02:35:14.000 A very good friend of mine and his girlfriend thought I was totally crazy until they saw it.

02:35:19.000 And now they're on board with me.

02:35:20.000 And, like I said, I live in a suburb of New York.

02:35:25.000 Uh, and I'm trying to get as many people as I can down with this, so they know what's going on.

02:35:31.000 And so, when martial law happens, or the next terrorist attack happens, we will not be caught with our pants down.

02:35:36.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:35:37.000 Do you have your radio on?

02:35:38.000 Yes.

02:35:39.000 Can you turn it off, please?

02:35:41.000 Alright.

02:35:41.000 Thanks.

02:35:42.000 I just want to be able to hear what you have to say.

02:35:45.000 Uh... Go ahead, now.

02:35:47.000 Oh, thank you.

02:35:48.000 Um, well, uh, like I said, I'm from a suburb of New York City, and, um, A friend of mine thought I was totally crazy until I showed him your movie, Martial Law.

02:35:56.000 And basically we've been spreading this movie out to as many people as we can.

02:36:01.000 I apologize that we're pirating it.

02:36:04.000 No, I want to thank you for doing that.

02:36:06.000 It's not pirating.

02:36:07.000 I want you to make copies.

02:36:08.000 It has no effect.

02:36:09.000 It will have no power.

02:36:10.000 It won't save anybody unless you make copies and those you give it to make copies.

02:36:16.000 Yes, thank you.

02:36:17.000 Wow!

02:36:18.000 Oh, wow.

02:36:19.000 I'm sorry.

02:36:19.000 I've been in anticipation for so long.

02:36:21.000 I'm just an average guy you're talking to.

02:36:22.000 Go ahead and make your points.

02:36:23.000 Oh, man.

02:36:25.000 Wow, I'm totally speechless.

02:36:29.000 But, yeah, me and my friend Jeff, we've been just looking into all this information.

02:36:34.000 We're going to start a club at our college next year so we can spread all this information to people and get it out there.

02:36:40.000 What did you think of the guy earlier who thinks everything's honky-dory?

02:36:43.000 He's a sheep! 0.99

02:36:45.000 He's a sheep.

02:36:46.000 He's totally...

02:36:48.000 He's been conditioned by our government for so many years to believe what they've told him, and so now when you're showing him the terrible truth, because honestly, I don't really want to believe this either.

02:37:01.000 It's terrible that our government is trying to enslave us.

02:37:04.000 But the facts and the evidence just point to it so, like, unquestionably.

02:37:10.000 Well, sir, we have our own public white papers where they say they're going to enslave us.

02:37:16.000 Yes!

02:37:16.000 I mean, Brzezinski and the Grand Chess Board calls us slaves, calls us barbarians, says we need terror attacks to unify them.

02:37:26.000 I don't understand why we have to use terror attacks... This guy has a best-selling book calling us slaves!

02:37:33.000 These people don't listen to anything!

02:37:35.000 You're right!

02:37:37.000 You're totally right!

02:37:38.000 I mean, Barnett struts around on C-SPAN talking about world government, the military works for global government, and the brass is all clapping, and I mean, then you go, there's world government, Rush Limbaugh goes, there's no world government!

02:37:49.000 No, Reuters is just saying they're getting rid of our borders!

02:37:53.000 Well, they're rubbing it in our face, because they know we would be fooled by all of their propaganda and misinformation that we don't know exists.

02:38:01.000 Well, they know the general public will see a threat and just deny it exists.

02:38:05.000 Exactly.

02:38:05.000 They call sticking your head in the sand.

02:38:07.000 Hey, you keep it up, Alex, and call back again.

02:38:08.000 Sorry you had to hold so long.

02:38:10.000 We just had that big guest on.

02:38:11.000 Mike in Illinois.

02:38:12.000 Something else, Alex?

02:38:14.000 No, thank you so much.

02:38:15.000 Keep fighting the good fight.

02:38:16.000 Thank you.

02:38:17.000 Take care.

02:38:17.000 Mike in Illinois.

02:38:18.000 Mike, go ahead.

02:38:19.000 Alex, how are you?

02:38:20.000 Good.

02:38:21.000 Hey, just some quick points.

02:38:23.000 Nothing spectacular.

02:38:24.000 Nothing anybody else didn't notice.

02:38:26.000 And you mention it in your movie, but I was driving across South Dakota when they lost Payne Stewart's flight.

02:38:31.000 But when golfer Payne Stewart for five minutes was unreachable.

02:38:35.000 They had fighters on it.

02:38:37.000 We lose planes for 45 minutes?

02:38:39.000 I mean, there's basic simple questions.

02:38:41.000 Obvious questions that people have to ask.

02:38:44.000 Hour and 25 for the first plane, two hours total.

02:38:47.000 The point is, they're basic simple, they're obvious questions that people need to ask.

02:38:52.000 And Chris in Texas, if you're listening, I know nobody wants to ask these questions, but don't ignore the obvious.

02:38:59.000 Don't sit here and just go, well, because my TV told me it was going to rain today and it did, everything else is true.

02:39:04.000 Because that's what everybody else is doing and you're talking about... You just hit a powerful point.

02:39:09.000 They'll tell you the truth about sports, about the weather, about how to cook a turkey.

02:39:12.000 The globalists need to have some truth.

02:39:15.000 So there's a lot of stuff like that.

02:39:17.000 And people think, well that's true, or they have what you call spin.

02:39:20.000 We're putting cameras up because they're good.

02:39:23.000 No, that's bad.

02:39:24.000 Then they have stuff that's total lies.

02:39:26.000 Controlled distraction.

02:39:27.000 There's all different types of propaganda.

02:39:29.000 One thing and one question that everybody, everybody, honestly, if you live in this country needs to ask yourself.

02:39:35.000 Name me, and I put the challenge out and hopefully you'll let me do it.

02:39:39.000 Call in and name one program that we have given federal, state, or local government to run that they haven't abused it.

02:39:46.000 Name me one program they haven't corrupted.

02:39:48.000 Well, I mean, we've caught fish and wildlife in the forestry service, dumping birds, dumping lions, mountain lions to then take people's property.

02:39:57.000 I don't care where they find it.

02:39:59.000 Name me one that they haven't abused.

02:40:02.000 Just one.

02:40:02.000 It's not a big question.

02:40:04.000 Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

02:40:07.000 And our founding fathers resoundingly said, government's deadly dangerous, slavery's the norm, freedom's so precious, don't trust the government, keep control of it, and nowadays I think you're unpatriotic.

02:40:17.000 The other thing that I'm doing besides handing out your DVD is I've ordered pocket constitutions from the governmental printing office.

02:40:27.000 Because I gotta tell you something that disgusts me when I talk to fellow associates that I work with or people that I know who are naturalized citizens who know people from other, just so everybody knows, people from other countries that come over here and go through the naturalization process to become U.S.

02:40:43.000 citizens.

02:40:44.000 And they know more about the Constitution, more about the Bill of Rights, not only because they've lived in other countries where they didn't have it, but because they understand what they're reading.

02:40:52.000 And you talk to the average American, they couldn't tell you three of the top ten.

02:40:57.000 Well, they will spend ten pages in a history book about the evil Ku Klux Klan.

02:41:03.000 They're going to get you to give all your rights up. 0.90

02:41:05.000 It's mindless trivia about movie stars, and they'll spend maybe one paragraph on the Constitution.

02:41:11.000 If you want to take it and look at it from that route, I watched the History Channel and C-SPAN pretty much solely when I had cable, and I just disconnected it because there's no point.

02:41:20.000 That's the only two channels I watch.

02:41:22.000 One of the things that I noticed is when we talk about World War II and we go into the Nazis, we talk about the horrible things they did. 0.57

02:41:28.000 And they did horrible things.

02:41:29.000 We don't talk about the environment that created that, that allowed that to emerge.

02:41:35.000 We don't talk about the societal changes that were going on in Germany at the time.

02:41:38.000 We don't talk about, you know, the economic changes that were occurring in Germany at the time.

02:41:42.000 We don't talk about what created that environment to allow him to come to power.

02:41:45.000 We just talk about the horrible things they did.

02:41:47.000 Now we don't talk about how, just to be buddies with the Russians, we said keep 20,000 US troops who were in Nazi camps, use them for slave labor. 0.62

02:41:55.000 And that's admitted!

02:41:56.000 Oh, but if you talk about that on Memorial Day, you're against the troops.

02:41:59.000 Because loving the troops means you don't care about them.

02:42:02.000 One of the other, and this will be the last thing because I know there's other people, one of the other things, and I got into this argument with somebody the other day, and I said to him, and I'll say it to Chris, Chris, educate yourself.

02:42:14.000 It's not our job to try and break that little You know you wouldn't be calling Alex's show, you wouldn't be listening to Alex's show, unless you knew in your heart something wasn't right.

02:42:28.000 All you have to do is scratch the surface.

02:42:31.000 They have to keep telling the same lies over and over and over again.

02:42:34.000 All you have to do is scratch the surface with a fingernail and you can start to see what's underneath all the BS.

02:42:39.000 Buckets of, yeah, but be ready.

02:42:40.000 Buckets of pus are going to squirt out on you. 1.00

02:42:43.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:42:43.000 Yeah, it's disgusting. 0.95

02:42:44.000 And if you're not losing sleep at this point in time, you're not an American tuned into what's happening in our own country.

02:42:49.000 Hey, I appreciate the call.

02:42:51.000 Mike, you're beautiful.

02:42:51.000 Thanks for the call.

02:42:52.000 Look, I'll say this again.

02:42:54.000 Folks, I go deeper and deeper down this rabbit hole.

02:42:58.000 I learn more and more every day.

02:42:59.000 I learned more in a month than I learned in the last five years.

02:43:01.000 I mean, it's just exponential.

02:43:02.000 And that's happening with you, too.

02:43:04.000 And I start really learning the nature of the New World Order.

02:43:07.000 It can only be described as the devil.

02:43:09.000 I mean, it is pure destruction and wanton attacks on beauty and innocence and love.

02:43:18.000 And I see these adults screaming and yelling and losing sleep over their football team losing.

02:43:23.000 But then I yell and scream about total destruction of America and our freedoms and total lies.

02:43:30.000 And I'm weird because I'm upset.

02:43:32.000 And I mean, folks, I am upset.

02:43:35.000 Everybody that knows me personally, all I do is work.

02:43:38.000 And just, you know, grab a little time with my children, just here and there.

02:43:43.000 And there's nothing I'd love better than to just, you know, go on vacations and, you know, hang out and all that stuff and just have a normal business.

02:43:52.000 I have to do this, folks.

02:43:54.000 I mean, I put everything on the line.

02:43:56.000 I know the incredible danger I'm in.

02:43:58.000 I know what I'm up against.

02:44:00.000 But the danger of doing nothing is much greater by the 10th power.

02:44:05.000 My soul is in anguish, folks.

02:44:08.000 It is... I mean, I can feel the palpable evil.

02:44:12.000 I can feel it rising and wriggling and reveling.

02:44:17.000 I can see their plan.

02:44:19.000 I can read their plan.

02:44:21.000 God, help us!

02:44:23.000 Folks, if you only knew what I knew, if you could only see what I see, I can just see the New World Order.

02:44:28.000 I've been doing this so long and so deep in studying it.

02:44:33.000 I know a lot of you do see it, and it'll drive a lot of you crazy.

02:44:36.000 I mean, you've got to just have God as your anchor, and as your keep, as your fortress.

02:44:46.000 I see the innocence of the adults.

02:44:49.000 They're childlike. 1.00

02:44:50.000 They're just giggling fools. 1.00

02:44:52.000 They have no idea what they're under, under the black wings of this system. 1.00

02:44:59.000 God strengthen us, God have all of us stand up against this, because bad times are ahead, folks.

02:45:04.000 I mean, the storm isn't coming, it's already hit us, and it just gets harder and harder.

02:45:11.000 And a lot of globalists are flinching right now, not just because of us, but they're finally seeing what they've built.

02:45:17.000 A lot of their own people are finally seeing what's been constructed.

02:45:21.000 You know, it's been fun having power, it's been fun being decadent, but now they're really learning the nature, and they're scared that they've got to ride this beast You know, that that somehow protects them when they are in the most danger.

02:45:33.000 And I speak to the hearts of the evil people out there and those that might still have an inkling of good in them.

02:45:37.000 God may still be able to touch you.

02:45:40.000 Give in to God.

02:45:41.000 Give yourself to God.

02:45:42.000 Give yourself to Christ.

02:45:44.000 Don't be afraid of it.

02:45:45.000 Just give yourself.

02:45:46.000 Don't be afraid.

02:45:47.000 The fear will go away.

02:45:50.000 God will comfort you.

02:45:52.000 And whatever happens, happens folks.

02:45:54.000 This life is so transitory, so quick.

02:45:59.000 Please, please, please, please find out what we're facing.

02:46:06.000 To boil it down, our own species is a subgroup that are basically parasites, or what you'd call vampires. 0.87

02:46:13.000 Not in the classical sense, I use that figuratively, but they're vampires. 1.00

02:46:17.000 They're parasites. 1.00

02:46:19.000 And the parasite likes his business, and they enjoy it, and they have no conscience. 1.00

02:46:24.000 I'm talking about the controllers. 0.99

02:46:25.000 They do not have souls, folks.

02:46:26.000 They are blinded. 0.99

02:46:29.000 They are really crippled, diseased anomalies.

02:46:34.000 And they are trying to have you as their army. 0.96

02:46:39.000 They're trying to get you to go along with them for power and control and dominance and women and all of it. 0.99

02:46:45.000 And you've gotten deep into it now and you know it's bad.

02:46:48.000 You know you can smell the death.

02:46:50.000 You're afraid.

02:46:52.000 Don't burrow deeper.

02:46:53.000 Don't go deeper into it.

02:46:55.000 Come out of it.

02:46:56.000 Come out of her.

02:46:58.000 Join us.

02:46:59.000 Join love.

02:47:01.000 Join truth.

02:47:03.000 Join beauty.

02:47:04.000 Join innocence.

02:47:05.000 Join creativity.

02:47:08.000 And, join life.

02:47:10.000 It is your destiny.

02:47:12.000 It is not to go with the devil and his hordes.

02:47:14.000 Please, listen to me.

02:47:15.000 This is real.

02:47:18.000 The devil is real.

02:47:20.000 Evil is real.

02:47:22.000 And the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist.

02:47:25.000 And, I mean, how the evil is just, you can just see it!

02:47:29.000 I can see it physically, folks.

02:47:32.000 Many of you only knew.

02:47:33.000 It's growing.

02:47:40.000 Chris in Kentucky, go ahead.

02:47:42.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:47:43.000 You know, I was like a naive person a few years ago when I first listened to your show.

02:47:48.000 I did think you were crazy, and it was time to think.

02:47:51.000 Because I did see a lot of stuff going on around, especially when September 11th happened.

02:47:55.000 At first I think, well, you know, I didn't think of anything of it.

02:47:57.000 And then I got more suspicious and got really thinking of waking up because I have seen changes in society.

02:48:03.000 I've seen the way the police have changed out here in public places.

02:48:07.000 You know, it's just, it's not freedom out here anymore.

02:48:11.000 And I'm seeing, oh, by the way, I went to Kroger.

02:48:13.000 We've got the thumb scanners being installed.

02:48:16.000 Your freedom is here with a little ID picture camera like thing on it.

02:48:20.000 I looked at it.

02:48:21.000 This is real, folks.

02:48:23.000 And if you want to continue to go on and just Steve, put your pampers on and go to sleep.

02:48:27.000 You know, you've got to wake up.

02:48:28.000 We're not saying that we hate you.

02:48:30.000 There's a lot of good people in government.

02:48:31.000 I'm a state worker, and I am waking up big time.

02:48:35.000 So there, Chris, in Texas, I am a state worker, and I'm waking up, and I'm fed up.

02:48:39.000 I want my freedom.

02:48:41.000 Anything else, Chris?

02:48:42.000 I just wanted to say I ordered your film.

02:48:43.000 Stay there.

02:48:44.000 Stay there.

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02:51:53.000 We're here, my friends.

02:51:57.000 And... I don't have any more time to get into it.

02:52:02.000 The nature of the New World Order, the nature of evil. 0.75

02:52:05.000 But, Crescent Kentucky, finish up what you were saying.

02:52:07.000 I just wanted to say that I've also ordered Couple of your martial laws are going to be on the way and I'm going to get copies out to people.

02:52:14.000 You know, worldwide, people in general I just talked to, don't even know about the show or who you are, are talking about this.

02:52:21.000 I've given information out to people through websites, Infowars.com, George Reilly's, Bush Paul's.

02:52:26.000 Folks, they're there, but you've got to reach them.

02:52:28.000 And I'm not fearing anything anymore.

02:52:30.000 I'm going to keep going with this fight until we get this hard freedom back.

02:52:34.000 Well, I know this.

02:52:35.000 If we weren't here doing what we're doing, things would be a lot worse.

02:52:37.000 Thanks, Chris.

02:52:38.000 I appreciate you and your support.

02:52:40.000 Michael in Tennessee.

02:52:40.000 Go ahead, Michael.

02:52:42.000 Hello?

02:52:43.000 Yes, sir.

02:52:44.000 Hey, uh, hey, Alec.

02:52:46.000 First time I've ever called any radio talk show, but guy Chris in Texas just got me kind of fired up.

02:52:53.000 Well, thanks for calling.

02:52:53.000 What's on your mind?

02:52:55.000 Well, I just wanted to tell him I hope he's listening.

02:52:58.000 If he thinks trusting the government's a good thing, my experience in the military during the Iran affair was being used as a target.

02:53:09.000 Now when they use your men as a target to try and start a war, it's kind of hard to trust them, you know what I mean?

02:53:17.000 So they were trying to get you to prance around in front of the Iranians? 0.96

02:53:20.000 They had us prancing around in front of the Iranians.

02:53:26.000 I would talk about it, but I really don't want to bring them down on me.

02:53:30.000 Another reason why I never called before.

02:53:33.000 Now I understand, you signed a non-disclosure national security letter?

02:53:36.000 Exactly.

02:53:37.000 Yeah.

02:53:39.000 Well, I mean, you were obviously there and saw a lot of clandestine things.

02:53:42.000 Should we just trust the government?

02:53:44.000 Never.

02:53:46.000 Never trust this government that's running our country.

02:53:50.000 And people are so asleep these days.

02:53:52.000 I just can't understand why they can't wake up and see what's in front of them. 0.97

02:53:58.000 Well, you know, taking freedom for granted always leads to horror, and all these poor people who want to suck their thumbs, they're going to squeal like little piglets at the slaughter when their daddy government is beating the daylights out of them. 0.97

02:54:12.000 Oh, I know. 0.98

02:54:13.000 And the way they're programming people, like my niece, I told her about the five-year-old girl getting arrested.

02:54:20.000 Well, I saw that.

02:54:21.000 They needed to do something. 1.00

02:54:23.000 She's going to grow up and kill somebody. 1.00

02:54:26.000 And you know, it's the same Perhaps they spew out on the TV. 0.95

02:54:31.000 I'm like, well, what are you going to do when they arrest your kids?

02:54:34.000 Well, I'll be down there and get them.

02:54:35.000 They're not going to arrest my kids.

02:54:37.000 Double think.

02:54:39.000 Yeah.

02:54:39.000 That's double think right there.

02:54:41.000 That's total mind control when people have two different views on the same issue.

02:54:45.000 Exactly.

02:54:47.000 I could do two hours on that.

02:54:48.000 No, I know.

02:54:54.000 Well, sir, don't make this your first and only.

02:54:56.000 I hope you'll call sometime when we've got more time.

02:54:59.000 I would love to.

02:55:00.000 And I don't think they've got your voice print.

02:55:01.000 You can probably talk about some stuff.

02:55:03.000 I mean, you can give us shadows of it, the edge of it, without going across the line.

02:55:07.000 Well, I might do that.

02:55:08.000 The funny thing is, for doing all that, they gave me the same medal that they gave the people they left behind on Wake Island during World War II.

02:55:21.000 I don't even have it anymore.

02:55:22.000 That's how much that meant to me.

02:55:24.000 Well, God bless you and Godspeed.

02:55:26.000 Take care, Mike.

02:55:27.000 Sorry to Jeff and Jeff and everybody else that's holding.

02:55:29.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, in the last minute of this transmission.

02:55:33.000 You've heard about Martial Law.

02:55:34.000 Ladies and gentlemen, find out why people are giving it great reviews.

02:55:37.000 It's my best film.

02:55:38.000 It's frankly one of the best films out there on the New World Order, if not the best.

02:55:43.000 The toll-free number to get Martial Law or any of my great films is 1-888-253-3139.

02:55:54.000 That's 888-253-3139.

02:55:58.000 Or you can simply go to Infowars.com to order a hard copy via the safe, secure online shopping cart.

02:56:04.000 Or go to PrisonPlanet.tv, 15 cents a day, monthly and yearly subscription.

02:56:07.000 See all my films, read my book, my weekly TV reports.

02:56:11.000 Best deal out there on the web, PrisonPlanet.tv. 0.97

02:56:14.000 Folks, this isn't a joke, and it takes courage to admit the facts, but you have to be deaf, dumb, and blind, and have a lobotomy to not see what's around you. 0.98

02:56:24.000 Can't you smell the stench? 0.99

02:56:26.000 Can't you taste it?

02:56:27.000 It isn't good.

02:56:29.000 It's real bad.

02:56:30.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - June 02, 2005

20050602_Thu_Alex

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