Alex Jones Show - 20050615_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:33.000 Welcome.

00:00:34.000 you It is already Wednesday, the 15th day of June 2005.

00:00:42.000 And coming up in 30 minutes, Dr. Morgan Reynolds, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term inside the Bush Inner Sanctum, the Bush team, says the official story about the collapse of the Twin Towers is bogus and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed them and the adjacent building number 7.

00:01:10.000 He's coming on in 30 minutes next Monday for his first big radio interview.

00:01:17.000 David Shaler's going to be coming on, the MI5 officer that blew the whistle on British involvement in bombings in Ireland and England to blame it on their political enemies.

00:01:27.000 He's coming on to talk about that and government involvement in 9-11 next Monday.

00:01:36.000 We are so honored that he contacted us through Simon Aranowitz Over in England and then he wants to come on this show.

00:01:45.000 So we are extremely honored and these are two big guests coming up.

00:01:48.000 One in 30 minutes and one on Monday.

00:01:53.000 Now of course I saw the article at LewRockwell.com last Thursday and talked about it on air.

00:02:00.000 And I told Paul Watson, I said, you watch, this story's going to be big.

00:02:03.000 And now it has gotten big.

00:02:05.000 People are finally paying attention to a former Bush team member, during his first administration, is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

00:02:17.000 And he's written some detailed articles just covering the common sense facts surrounding this.

00:02:27.000 And I've talked a lot about how this is how a house of cards comes down.

00:02:31.000 Or the analogy is the emperor's new clothes.

00:02:36.000 It takes those first individuals to hit the barbed wire so the rest of you can climb over our backs.

00:02:44.000 And I use the analogy of the first people that came out 600 years ago And said, the world is round.

00:02:57.000 Actually 500 and something.

00:02:59.000 The world isn't flat.

00:03:01.000 They were burned at the stake.

00:03:03.000 They were killed. 0.91

00:03:04.000 They were called witches.

00:03:05.000 They were called warlocks. 0.99

00:03:06.000 They were called heretics.

00:03:08.000 They were jailed in their homes.

00:03:13.000 And then, almost overnight, in the scheme of human society, in just a decade or so, You were a kook, not to say that it was round, but a kook to say that it was flat.

00:03:27.000 Flat earthers. 0.99

00:03:31.000 And so, shoot your mouths off, laugh at me, attack me, run your hit pieces, just pull out all the stops. 1.00

00:03:39.000 In fact, you can't even kill all of us now, there's too many of us. 1.00

00:03:43.000 Do whatever you want, do whatever you can, try how you may, The truth about 9-11 is coming out.

00:03:52.000 Just like in major polls, 90 plus percent of Americans believe the government killed Kennedy.

00:04:00.000 Not just the CIA, not the mob, not there was more than one gunman.

00:04:06.000 Everybody, basically, 98 percent believe that.

00:04:08.000 In major polls, 92 percent of Americans believe the government was involved.

00:04:16.000 And it's not going to take 40 years or 42 years now to get those type of numbers.

00:04:22.000 It's accelerated.

00:04:24.000 Everything happens faster today because of technology, because of science.

00:04:30.000 Their lies come out even faster and are more sophisticated.

00:04:34.000 Our truths come out even faster and dissect their lies as fast as they can weave them.

00:04:41.000 And yes, Even faster!

00:04:46.000 So, prepare yourselves, New World Order! 0.82

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00:04:52.000 Your end is approaching!

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00:07:58.000 Big Brother.

00:08:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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00:09:05.000 All right, coming up in about 20 minutes, we're going to have former high-level Bush administration official, the chief economist, Dr. Morgan Reynolds, for the Department of Labor during President Bush's first term, He's also been involved, he has a very long bio at Texas A&M and in law enforcement studies and just a whole plethora of issues.

00:09:36.000 And he will be joining us coming up here in just about 22 minutes to be precise.

00:09:44.000 And in the first five minutes that I know some of our fine affiliates don't carry, they carry news then, but a lot of our stations, the majority, don't want to carry that news, so I do the first five minutes live, but I generally tend to recap.

00:09:59.000 But it's important to recap it and to elaborate on it and to really be more specific.

00:10:06.000 Because this is the good news.

00:10:09.000 And I use the analogy of the world being round.

00:10:15.000 550-something years ago, if you said the world was round, you would be executed, you'd be imprisoned, you'd get in deep trouble.

00:10:26.000 But once it finally got traction, and people refused to go along with the propaganda, and Magellan circumnavigated the globe, finding Magellan's straight, and naming it such, that really shattered the illusions.

00:10:45.000 And within just a few years, suddenly, you were a kook to say that the world was flat. 0.74

00:10:54.000 And in the scheme of human time and society, five years, ten years is a blinking, a twinkling, a shimmer of the eye.

00:11:06.000 It's not even a blinking of the eye.

00:11:09.000 And so, So many people I've talked to, I mean I remember, and again this isn't Alex Jones tooting his horn, it's so that you can have this same courage, it's so you can realize that being a leader is the job that you've got before you and so that you understand that being ridiculed is a badge of honor and it's a good thing.

00:11:36.000 I remember two months before 9-11 saying they're going to carry out an attack, Bin Laden's a CIA asset, they'll probably take the blame, they'll probably attack the World Trade Centers. 0.74

00:11:45.000 Call the White House, tell Bush, don't carry out the attacks.

00:11:48.000 I mean, I've never before said, emergency, emergency, call them.

00:11:52.000 I've never done it since.

00:11:55.000 And I did it for two months leading up to 9-11, and I did it on TV, and I put it in my film, The Masters of Terror.

00:12:00.000 And I got a lot of criticism.

00:12:02.000 I had some stations turn us off.

00:12:05.000 By the way, the stations that did kick us off came back and picked us back up again.

00:12:11.000 And instead of being on two hours, hey, we're going to put you on three hours, and how about we put you on three hours at night?

00:12:16.000 How's six hours sound?

00:12:20.000 So I knew what was going to happen.

00:12:22.000 I saw all the evidence.

00:12:23.000 I have the connections.

00:12:24.000 I did the research.

00:12:26.000 You could do it too.

00:12:26.000 I'm just an average person.

00:12:28.000 And I took the heat.

00:12:30.000 Day one on 9-11, I got on air.

00:12:34.000 And I said, the globalists are behind 9-11.

00:12:36.000 I gave the evidence.

00:12:37.000 And I was ridiculed by people very close to me, other talk show hosts, other so-called patriot networks, even some people on the very network I was on.

00:12:48.000 Well, Alex is going way too far.

00:12:51.000 I had people dress me down in the street.

00:12:54.000 I had people I've known for years dress me down in the hallways of the TV station.

00:12:59.000 And you know what?

00:12:59.000 None of them ever apologized to me.

00:13:02.000 But some listeners have.

00:13:04.000 And a few stations did, but people I know, my so-called colleagues, they never apologized.

00:13:11.000 No, they like to prance around and say they exposed 9-11 and they have the most powerful information.

00:13:16.000 Look, frankly, I don't care.

00:13:18.000 Let them run around and say that they claim the world was round when I know good and well they were saying it was flat as a pancake.

00:13:24.000 I don't care!

00:13:25.000 Just so long as you say it's round.

00:13:29.000 Alright?

00:13:31.000 And that's what it takes to be a trailblazer.

00:13:34.000 And I've blazed many trails.

00:13:37.000 Just because I, at certain levels, am not naive and gullible.

00:13:43.000 I am, uh, I wouldn't call it cynical, I'm streetwise.

00:13:47.000 And I happen to have read a lot of history.

00:13:49.000 And really, when you know history, you understand what's going on today.

00:13:55.000 I don't have some sardonic or elitist feeling In the fact that most Americans can't find Iraq on a map, most Americans don't know who the first president was, or even the second, most Americans don't know what the fourth or fifth amendment is, or the tenth amendment, or the ninth amendment, or the seventh, or the sixth, or the first.

00:14:16.000 You know, the elite in America today, they're on a power trip!

00:14:19.000 A lot of these mid-level minions love it that people are dumbed down. 1.00

00:14:23.000 They see it as, well, in a competitive world, it's better if they're stupid. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Oh no, that scares me. 1.00

00:14:30.000 It scares me to have billions of people that don't know their head from a hole in the ground, but know all about their favorite sitcom or drama on TV.

00:14:40.000 It scares me to death, folks, because when you've got a dumbed-down population, you've got tyranny.

00:14:47.000 Oh, I don't take any pleasure. 0.99

00:14:49.000 I'm not even that smart.

00:14:50.000 In fact, it's very humbling.

00:14:51.000 It's very scary.

00:14:53.000 But realize that I'm just an average person, but I am light years ahead of most people.

00:15:00.000 And I know our listeners are light years ahead.

00:15:02.000 I mean, I was thinking about this this morning and last night.

00:15:05.000 What amazing listeners we've got.

00:15:07.000 What loving listeners we've got.

00:15:08.000 What caring listeners we've got.

00:15:10.000 The courage of our listeners.

00:15:12.000 The activists.

00:15:13.000 The people involved on the cutting edge.

00:15:15.000 You guys are on the front lines.

00:15:17.000 And I commend you.

00:15:19.000 I salute you.

00:15:20.000 I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

00:15:23.000 And I know why you do what you do, because you love God, because you love your family, and you love the country where your family lives.

00:15:31.000 And you know, that country's gotta be free if you're gonna be free.

00:15:34.000 And if I'm gonna be free, you gotta be free.

00:15:38.000 And if you're gonna be free, I gotta be free.

00:15:42.000 It's that simple.

00:15:44.000 And that's why the Bilderberg Group is angry at Christian conservative patriots, you know, the ineffectual so-called liberals exposing the New World Order.

00:15:52.000 They're not exposing the New World Order, they're exposing Bush's empire.

00:15:55.000 Bush is just a front man, a foil, a puppet, a shill.

00:16:02.000 That's all he is.

00:16:03.000 And so, when they shift the so-called liberals back into power, suddenly the so-called liberals will love the tyranny.

00:16:11.000 No, it was the conservative Christian patriots who were against Bill Clinton and the New World Order, and they were the first to be against George Bush, and they'll be the first to be against Hillary or Schwarzenegger or the Governor of Virginia.

00:16:25.000 Whoever, whatever puppet they put in, we'll see right through them.

00:16:28.000 So again, I commend you.

00:16:31.000 You've taken the heat.

00:16:32.000 You've been the focus of the government.

00:16:34.000 You're the ones that are under attack, and I commend you.

00:16:39.000 But over time, I mean, major polls, most Americans believe the government was involved in 9-11 or at least knew it was going to happen and let it take place.

00:16:48.000 And that's in three and three quarter years.

00:16:52.000 Or three quarter years and three years.

00:16:55.000 As they said in the olden time.

00:16:58.000 Three quarters of a year plus three.

00:17:05.000 So we've got to understand that we're having an effect.

00:17:08.000 We're changing society.

00:17:10.000 We're in this fight.

00:17:14.000 And the globalists are howling with anger.

00:17:16.000 Again, I mentioned the analogy, the example of the parable of the emperor's new clothes.

00:17:24.000 These scammers come to town.

00:17:26.000 They build this beautiful cloak for the king.

00:17:28.000 He pays them all this money.

00:17:29.000 They say, we could do it even better.

00:17:31.000 And the next cloak they make, he's in his underwear.

00:17:33.000 It's invisible.

00:17:35.000 And they're weaving it for hours, the gold, the rubies, the diamonds.

00:17:38.000 And he doesn't see it, but he thinks he must be crazy.

00:17:41.000 So he says, OK, it's beautiful.

00:17:42.000 And all of his staff, they don't want to, they want to be yes men.

00:17:45.000 So they go, oh, it's beautiful, diamonds, rubies, emeralds, gold, sapphires, mother of pearl, it's incredible.

00:17:53.000 And so the king has a big parade, and he's walking in his underwear.

00:17:57.000 And everyone, dun-da-da-dun, dun-da-da-dun, look at him, your leader, let him know that you love him and love his new beautiful cloak.

00:18:08.000 As he walks in a loincloth.

00:18:10.000 And a three-year-old child steps forward out of the crowd and starts laughing and says, the king is naked.

00:18:18.000 Then everyone starts laughing and saying it.

00:18:20.000 I mean, out of the mouths of babes, folks. 1.00

00:18:24.000 Really, I mean, that's what I've done.

00:18:26.000 I'm just an average person that sees straight and knows what's going on, at least part of the time.

00:18:31.000 And realizes that I've got to always be looking for deception and always studying.

00:18:37.000 And I saw it coming from so far away.

00:18:41.000 And so many people out here, you see them everywhere, they know what's going on.

00:18:46.000 Yeah, Alex, I know it's true, but I don't want to get involved, it's too dangerous.

00:18:50.000 It's too dangerous not to fight this!

00:18:53.000 It's too dangerous to let these people be in control.

00:18:56.000 It's too dangerous to let them have a free hand. 0.98

00:19:01.000 I mean, are you crazy?

00:19:03.000 Look, these threats don't go away just because you deny them or stick your head in the sand. 0.97

00:19:09.000 It's going to take more of us standing up.

00:19:11.000 Hey, we may know the truth now, but we haven't put that into action yet.

00:19:15.000 And that means waking others up and being public and exposing.

00:19:20.000 Think what it took for Morgan Reynolds, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for Bush, to come out and say, there's no way that planes brought down those buildings.

00:19:32.000 Think what it took for George Galloway to say that.

00:19:35.000 Think what it took for Michael Meacher to say it, or Andres von Bulow.

00:19:38.000 Think what it took for all these other prominent people to say it.

00:19:42.000 And more and more prominent people are going to say it.

00:19:45.000 Larry Silverstein says he blew it up!

00:19:47.000 Are we supposed to ignore him?

00:19:49.000 Admitting it?

00:19:51.000 Never!

00:19:52.000 I'm not your slave!

00:19:54.000 You don't have control of my mind, and you never will!

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00:24:18.000 Bad boys.

00:24:19.000 New World Order, you're the bad boys. 0.57

00:24:22.000 You rebel in evil.

00:24:26.000 You know, watching Rumsfeld up on TV going, Hey, we're not gonna release any of these people in Guantanamo Bay.

00:24:30.000 They're cold-blooded killers.

00:24:33.000 Well, you haven't convicted any of these people.

00:24:35.000 The CIA, the top guy who's in Afghanistan, has gone public.

00:24:41.000 Three weeks ago and they admit that they would just kidnap innocent people and have them sold to them by the Taliban and Al Qaeda. 0.60

00:24:50.000 They'd just grab some kids, grab some goat herders, they'd invite goat herders down out of the hills and plop them in irons and the Taliban would just sell them to the waiting helicopters. 0.78

00:24:59.000 $25,000 ahead.

00:24:59.000 $25,000 a head.

00:25:02.000 $3,000 to $25,000 ahead.

00:25:05.000 And then that's what the aid groups, the Army's own reports, Brigadier General Rick Bacchus quit the camp and said, number one, we're torturing people, and I'm not going to be part of it.

00:25:15.000 Number two, they're innocent!

00:25:18.000 Oh no, they're cold-blooded killers.

00:25:19.000 Well, you see, they've got to have a theater for you folks, because they flew out the 8,000 Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders.

00:25:25.000 Our government did it to safety, that's admitted!

00:25:28.000 Oh yeah, AP, Reuters, Fox News, but it was just an accident!

00:25:34.000 Just in all of it, it's just an accident.

00:25:37.000 So you gotta have somebody to torture, you gotta train the troops on somebody, because it's really for us, the American people.

00:25:45.000 Watch the cop shows, the tortures for the average Joe.

00:25:48.000 They're just training us all, it's good.

00:25:50.000 And then Rumsfeld, the guy that got aspartame on the market, the guy that sits on all these drug company boards, like George Bush Senior, he guts up there and lies. 0.99

00:25:58.000 The guy's a congenital, perpetual, compulsive liar! 1.00

00:26:06.000 All he does is lie! 1.00

00:26:08.000 He's truly evil, folks. 0.99

00:26:11.000 But he's just a minion of his masters. 0.96

00:26:15.000 All right.

00:26:16.000 There's a ton of news.

00:26:17.000 You know, we're on in Kansas City.

00:26:18.000 Been on there.

00:26:19.000 That's probably one of our oldest affiliates.

00:26:20.000 Great folks up there.

00:26:23.000 So I would imagine later listeners will want to call in about this.

00:26:25.000 We have our guest, Morgan Reynolds, coming on.

00:26:30.000 PhD.

00:26:31.000 Talk about implosion of the towers.

00:26:35.000 Abortionist accused of eating fetuses, Kansas City Clinic closed his grisly house of horrors, a Kansas City abortionist, is out of business after investigators discovered a grisly house of horrors at the clinic with fetuses kept in styrofoam cups in his refrigerator and one employee accusing him of microwaving one and stirring it into his lunch.

00:27:00.000 The unsanitary conditions at Krishnu Rajana's, you just knew it would be that, clinic prompted legislative approval of new abortion regulations in Kansas, a bill that was vetoed by the governor.

00:27:17.000 Rajana's activities have reportedly been the subject of law enforcement investigations for nearly two years. 0.97

00:27:25.000 Folks, To be able to go in every day and kill 30-40 babies, to be able to pour acid on them, to cut their arms and legs off, to rip their heads off, to suck their brains out, you gotta be sick. 0.99

00:27:43.000 There's gotta be something wrong with you. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Not to mention just the exorbitant money.

00:27:47.000 Some of the highest paid medical practitioners out there are abortionists.

00:27:51.000 Many abortionists make more than top brain surgeons and plastic surgeons.

00:27:56.000 And it is a grisly mess.

00:27:58.000 And a lot of times they leave an arm or a leg in there and it triples, more than triples, a woman's chances of getting different types of cancer, because the body terminates pregnancies itself about 99% of the time.

00:28:10.000 If there's a problem with that baby, God has designed you where you're gonna, the baby's gonna die, the body's gonna kill it.

00:28:17.000 You're gonna get rid of it. 0.98

00:28:18.000 That's God's plan.

00:28:19.000 And then the woman doesn't get cancer from it. 1.00

00:28:22.000 But you go around, you know, pulling fruit off the vine, folks, And again, women don't even know that there are more people wanting to adopt children every year than there are even abortions. 0.99

00:28:32.000 There are groups that will pay you tens of thousands of dollars, in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars, and pay for you to stay in a nice house or apartment, have that baby, and then give you several years' pay afterwards.

00:28:49.000 Women don't even know, that could be a good business for them. 1.00

00:28:52.000 No, no, they don't know that, because nobody told you that, did they?

00:28:58.000 And the groups doing it don't have the money to put up enough billboards to tell you, though you do see the billboards.

00:29:04.000 Some things, folks, whenever we would pull a calf, when I worked for a large animal vet, and it would die, I'd be very sad for the dead baby calf.

00:29:12.000 Can you imagine, or any time we had to, before the wife or the mother, which was very rare, had to do a procedure that would probably kill the calf, I was still sad.

00:29:23.000 Imagine being able to kill human beings.

00:29:25.000 You can make up whatever lies you want and say they're not. 0.99

00:29:27.000 It is a human being. 1.00

00:29:28.000 You've got to be sick. 0.98

00:29:31.000 So I believe the staff.

00:29:32.000 I believe the workers.

00:29:35.000 I mean, I pulled up past news articles about it.

00:29:38.000 The place looks like the inside of a public bathroom.

00:29:40.000 It's a cesspool. 0.99

00:29:42.000 And a big fat demon's in trouble. 0.97

00:29:45.000 And he should be in trouble.

00:29:46.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:36:10.000 All right.

00:36:11.000 Enough said with that little plug.

00:36:15.000 The gentleman we have on just has amazing courage.

00:36:20.000 I didn't gallop, you know, the first day I read his article at LewRockwell.com, I didn't gallop to get him on.

00:36:26.000 I wanted to research him first, and a few nights I spent three or four hours researching our guest, Morgan Reynolds, who's going to be with us for a full hour.

00:36:38.000 And his bio is lengthy.

00:36:42.000 He has worked at the highest levels of the federal government, including Chief Economist for a major department of the Bush Administration.

00:36:53.000 He has been involved in so many levels of academia at Texas A&M, which is also one of their main command bases for Homeland Security now, and recruiting and coming up with policy.

00:37:06.000 And we're just honored to have him.

00:37:08.000 Here's the headline, Bush Economist Doubts 9-11 Story.

00:37:11.000 Ex-Labor Department had heads as towers brought down by explosives. 0.83

00:37:18.000 Here's another one.

00:37:19.000 This is out of United Press International.

00:37:21.000 Former Bush Administrative Economist says official story of WTC collapse bogus.

00:37:28.000 So, and I got a bunch of other articles here as well, but Mr. Reynolds, thanks for coming on with us.

00:37:32.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:37:34.000 I really appreciate it.

00:37:35.000 First off, you can describe yourself better than I can.

00:37:38.000 Tell us about Morgan Reynolds and then your awakening and why you've gone public.

00:37:46.000 Well, I'm a Ph.D.

00:37:48.000 in economics from the University of Wisconsin and spent the majority of my academic career at Texas A&M, 28 years.

00:37:57.000 Now I'm retired from there.

00:37:59.000 Gives me a few more degrees of freedom, but I've also worked for various kinds of policy institutes, part-time, free market oriented.

00:38:11.000 That's my work as an economist.

00:38:16.000 When you go back to 9-11, maybe I'm a slow learner.

00:38:20.000 I didn't know instantly.

00:38:22.000 I didn't have draconian suspicions.

00:38:25.000 In fact, the event happened one week exactly after I started at the Labor Department, but My first reaction when I saw the building impacted Tower One, I said, that building won't fall.

00:38:42.000 And like a lot of laymen and experts alike, including fire chiefs on the scene, virtually everybody was shocked at the implosion.

00:38:54.000 Ten seconds approximately for each of these incredible towers, and then of course the mysterious Building Seven.

00:39:02.000 So, there's a brief response.

00:39:06.000 So, just a week after 9-11, you got the job as the Chief Economist for the Department of Labor in a very high-level position inside the Bush Administration, and then now, three and a half years later, or more than three and a half years later, you're going public in a big way.

00:39:28.000 Well, you know how these media events work.

00:39:32.000 This is one of the cases where I've written some op-eds, and for whatever reason, this one kind of caught fire.

00:39:40.000 It went beyond the normal channels I swim in, and there you go.

00:39:44.000 Well, I want to discuss, though, in a microcosm, an event of a professional PhD, you know, highest levels of his field in economics.

00:39:56.000 Your awakening, I mean, how the pieces fell together.

00:39:58.000 Let's go over that first, then we'll get into the collapse of the towers.

00:40:02.000 Well, I mean, the number one qualification that I have is a concerned citizen.

00:40:07.000 The second is I'm a researcher.

00:40:10.000 I've got writing and research skills.

00:40:12.000 And third, it's the gravity of this event.

00:40:15.000 It's the pivotal event of the 21st century.

00:40:18.000 It's a cornerstone, a foundation.

00:40:20.000 It is.

00:40:20.000 It's the cornerstone, a foundation.

00:40:23.000 We don't know enough.

00:40:26.000 I'm saying I feel like the child in the Emperor's New Clothes.

00:40:30.000 Hey, look, look, there's a bunch of problems here.

00:40:33.000 And that was the nature of my June 9th article.

00:40:37.000 And we just said, hey, look, let's look at the evidence here, the forensic evidence, the photos.

00:40:44.000 And there's just things inconsistent with the official account.

00:40:48.000 So when did you start to wake up?

00:40:49.000 I mean, I want to hear about this process.

00:40:51.000 Well, um, really, uh, it's just been a very gradual thing.

00:40:56.000 And, uh, now that I'm, uh, semi-retired, I, uh, wanted to pursue this, especially after the invasion of Iraq where, uh, I mean, pretty much everybody stipulates that was all a big lie.

00:41:11.000 Um, From the WMDs to the Saddam involvement in 9-11 and just the scary, you know, another big event, terrorist event. 0.69

00:41:22.000 So, that ought to alert people and it did alert me and I said, I need to look closer at this whole thing.

00:41:32.000 Well, you've certainly done that, and the article you wrote for BlueRockwell.com is extremely detailed and covers a lot of different facets.

00:41:40.000 We posted that story at PrisonPlanet.com late last week, but since then, again, it's been in WorldNet Daily, United Press International.

00:41:48.000 It's one of the biggest stories on the web right now.

00:41:51.000 Well, you know, part of it is the credentialism that we're so fond of.

00:41:57.000 It helps make a first cut, and there haven't been many qualified academics willing to go out on a limb for reasons I understand.

00:42:08.000 Yeah, David Ray Griffin was one of the first, and now he's given his four scenarios, you know, four different views on 9-11.

00:42:15.000 He believes four is the proper one.

00:42:19.000 All the evidence concludes that, shows that.

00:42:21.000 Government complicity, involvement, execution.

00:42:24.000 I concur with his analysis.

00:42:27.000 Of the four views, what does Mr. Reynolds believe?

00:42:31.000 Well, enumerate those.

00:42:33.000 I'm familiar with his work.

00:42:34.000 I've read his two books.

00:42:35.000 Well, number one is Arabs did it all by themselves from a cave and the government did nothing wrong and had no prior knowledge. 1.00

00:42:43.000 Part two is they had prior knowledge, just a little bit, but the government's idiots and they made a mistake and fell down. 0.99

00:42:50.000 Part three is they knew and consciously allowed it to happen and even opened a few doors. 0.99

00:42:56.000 And part four is they ran the entire operation.

00:43:00.000 Well, yeah, I'd have to say that the evidence points to the last... I say that there are three theories extant.

00:43:07.000 Of course, they're all conspiracy theories because they're multi-person crimes, but ONI, as Osama and 19 Islamic extremists did this, there's LIHAP, let it happen on purpose, and then there's MIHAP, make it happen on purpose. 0.81

00:43:25.000 But I prefer the inchworm approach here.

00:43:28.000 I'm not willing to vault further than the evidence would allow.

00:43:33.000 And this piece I did just points out that there's a very strong evidence that's inconsistent with the official account that all point to the professional demolition as the Explanation for the disintegration and free fall collapse of these buildings.

00:43:54.000 You know, I showed my film here in Austin and I was sitting next to a big Hollywood producer, who had come as a guest.

00:44:02.000 A pretty big name, folks would all know who I was talking about.

00:44:04.000 And he looked at me and he said, Alex, Building 7 is the smoking gun.

00:44:09.000 All the other stuff is conclusive and well documented, but he said, these buildings falling, You can prove they blew them up, you can prove they blew up 7, and on all of that hinges, because it would take weeks to put those explosives in there, we know Alcotta couldn't do it.

00:44:26.000 Well, and we know Larry Silberstein admits it in public, right?

00:44:30.000 I mean, the leaseholder, the 99 leaseholder.

00:44:34.000 He really slipped up.

00:44:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:36.000 Let's pull the building. 1.00

00:44:39.000 That's what he said, so...

00:44:42.000 I mean, I'd rather believe the evidence of my eyes, but that's damning as well.

00:44:47.000 Well, we're going to go over all of that, and this audience is very well versed in it, but we always have new listeners, so it's important to go back over it and see what facets with your particular trained eye.

00:44:56.000 But I'm very impressed with your little terms there, let it happen, made it happen.

00:45:00.000 Go over those again for me, because I'm going to steal those terms.

00:45:05.000 Oh, you're welcome.

00:45:06.000 Plagiarism invited.

00:45:07.000 But yeah, we've got three theories that I call ONI, Osama and 19 Islamic Extremists. 0.99

00:45:14.000 That's explanation one.

00:45:16.000 And that's ONI?

00:45:18.000 Yeah, O-N-I-E. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Acronym.

00:45:20.000 All right.

00:45:21.000 Acronym.

00:45:22.000 I love it.

00:45:22.000 No, I love it.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, the second is let it happen on purpose, L-I-E.

00:45:28.000 What was it, H?

00:45:31.000 Let it happen on purpose.

00:45:32.000 I'd have to go through a little bit of that.

00:45:34.000 Let it happen on purpose.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, and then there's MIHOP.

00:45:37.000 M-I-H-O-P. 1.00

00:45:40.000 Make it happen on purpose.

00:45:42.000 And I think that if we were to have a full-blown criminal trial after Careful investigation.

00:45:51.000 Of course, none of these procedures have been done.

00:45:54.000 It was just a shortcut to, uh, this is war.

00:45:57.000 Well, the so-called Independent Commission was appointed by Bush.

00:46:01.000 Well, yeah, sure, sure.

00:46:03.000 They had, and of course it was opposed with all means available until the, um, Survivors groups, especially the four Jersey girls, have forced them politically into having a commission.

00:46:18.000 Yeah, they didn't even want to have the whitewash because they knew it would be kind of a roadmap, like the Warren Commission report, to be debunked.

00:46:25.000 Right, yeah.

00:46:26.000 And you just don't want to let things out of your control, right?

00:46:29.000 You know, they're control freaks.

00:46:31.000 One of the key appointments, one of the two most important was Philip Zelikow, who is, of course, Condoleezza Rice's counselor now at the State Department, but he's a Bush insider.

00:46:43.000 And, you know, as David Ray Griffin says, in effect, he writes 95% of the commission's 571 pages.

00:46:49.000 of the commissions are 571 pages.

00:46:52.000 And he also, of course, I mean, it's a top-down procedure.

00:46:57.000 Well, sir, I mean, there's so much to talk about here, and I hate to keep going back to this, but we've got plenty of time with you, so I want to go back to your awakening.

00:47:07.000 I mean, was it a week after, a month after, a year after?

00:47:10.000 I mean, was it being inside the Bush administration and seeing other things, or now is it seeing all their other lies and all their other systematic corruptions?

00:47:19.000 And I mean, was it the trillions missing from the Pentagon?

00:47:22.000 I mean, is it just the Vice President's office running the bids for the war?

00:47:28.000 Yeah, you're putting more importance on that than I think it warrants, but all I can say is... I'm trying to understand.

00:47:36.000 What was the process?

00:47:36.000 This is a gradual thing, but like I say, from the get-go, I had my doubts because I was shocked that these towers fell.

00:47:47.000 But then, you know, I went on for about two years, maybe more, before I wrote anything expressing my doubt.

00:47:56.000 So you were quietly doing your own research?

00:47:58.000 Yes.

00:48:00.000 I mean, what did it feel like sitting there at midnight with a glass of ice water, reading documents online, as the pieces finally, more and more, you couldn't deny it.

00:48:10.000 Well, you know, the reason I went into academe initially was, I thought, wow, from a career point of view, what a great idea.

00:48:23.000 You put a few bright people aside and let them do their thing, and the thing should be the pursuit of truth.

00:48:31.000 Okay?

00:48:31.000 And that's still my aim.

00:48:33.000 I mean, it's no... Veritas.

00:48:35.000 Hmm?

00:48:36.000 Veritas.

00:48:37.000 Veritas.

00:48:38.000 That's right.

00:48:39.000 And here we have a situation where it's just big lies and it's just appalling.

00:48:47.000 And of course I'm getting, as you have taken a lot more of this than me, but I'm getting all these negatives that are mostly kind of a secular religion. 0.79

00:48:57.000 You know, how dare you? 0.99

00:48:58.000 You're a nut, etc. 0.99

00:49:00.000 etc. 1.00

00:49:00.000 I said, well wait a minute. 1.00

00:49:02.000 Well, let's put that aside, these ad hominem attacks.

00:49:05.000 Well, no, it really is an orthodoxy.

00:49:07.000 They can't respond to the evidence.

00:49:10.000 All they can do is name-call.

00:49:12.000 It's just complete denial.

00:49:13.000 It reminds me of the Soviet Union, where, you know, what you do with political dissidents is you just have them diagnosed as mental cases.

00:49:22.000 At least that was the kinder version of exile, and you're locked up.

00:49:29.000 They have that, uh, oh, what's the defiance disorder?

00:49:33.000 The authority defiance disorder?

00:49:35.000 And they have what, in the Patriot Act?

00:49:37.000 Well, I mean, now the government is saying that anybody that criticizes the government has this oppositional defiance disorder, or whatever it's named in the psychology and psychiatry handbooks.

00:49:50.000 And now Bush has passed the new freedom initiative to start forced psychological testing and drugging.

00:49:55.000 Well, yeah, it's the old cliche, truth the first casualty of war.

00:50:00.000 I mean, you make the joke about the Soviet Union.

00:50:03.000 I mean, now they're really trying to do that here.

00:50:05.000 We just barely shot down new freedom in Texas last month in the legislature.

00:50:10.000 But, sir, I mean, you talk about the response you've gotten, predominantly in email and calls and things of that nature.

00:50:20.000 What's the response been?

00:50:23.000 Pretty amazing to me.

00:50:24.000 I mean, it's just a huge ruckus.

00:50:27.000 I mean part of it is what John Kaminsky calls a second wave, that maybe the country after Iraq or the ongoing disaster in Iraq is willing To go back to the beginning.

00:50:44.000 Maybe the emotions have been sublimated enough to look at this again.

00:50:52.000 Alright, we've got a break sir.

00:50:53.000 Just a ton of stuff coming up.

00:50:55.000 We'll get into the collapse of the towers.

00:50:56.000 We'll talk about all of it and maybe take some calls.

00:50:58.000 Stay with us.

00:51:01.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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00:53:59.000 All right, talking to Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Department talking to Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term.

00:54:21.000 Says the official story about the collapse of the Twin Towers is bogus and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed them and adjacent building number seven.

00:54:33.000 And we will go back over some of that evidence, but Mr. Reynolds, during the break we were talking And I was saying, what percentage of these emails are negative?

00:54:43.000 You said it's three or four to one that are positive, but the people that are negative, it is just particularly vicious.

00:54:54.000 But I don't want to put it in my words.

00:54:55.000 Put it in your words.

00:54:56.000 Tell us what the response has been like.

00:54:58.000 Well, as I said earlier, it's like a secular religion, and it's like a Soviet mentality where Anybody who speaks up and is a political dissident and says, there's something wrong here, look at this, that, and the other thing, is immediately thought a nutcase, and you get the right psychiatrist, and that's the lock-up.

00:55:21.000 Well, as I say, that's the kinder alternative for exile, but the mentality here is not, we'll call it scientific, nor is it characteristic of a criminal investigation where you pursue all sound leads, including asking the question, who has motive?

00:55:42.000 Who benefits?

00:55:44.000 Do they have means?

00:55:46.000 Do they have opportunity?

00:55:47.000 And a lot of those lines were just closed off.

00:55:50.000 And we didn't pursue this in the patient way we should have for the most important event and maybe since the founding.

00:55:59.000 Within two hours they told us it's bin Laden.

00:56:03.000 Right!

00:56:03.000 They were all surprised.

00:56:05.000 Yeah, the state was caught completely unawares, but then they announced a few hours later, ah, we know who they were.

00:56:12.000 And these 19 names aren't even on these various passenger manifests.

00:56:17.000 And then magically a passport fell out of the sky.

00:56:20.000 Turns out that was fake.

00:56:21.000 But they don't want to discuss it.

00:56:22.000 But we can't find an engine.

00:56:25.000 Uh, you know, they have a few photos of an absurd, you know, engine part, uh, but it was probably planted, but, uh, you know, we, I, I don't know, but the point is there might've been aircraft, but what I argue in this article at the beginning is you look at the photos and you find things that are inconsistent with the official account.

00:56:44.000 The holes are in the two towers are too small to, Swallow a Boeing 767.

00:56:52.000 This problem is well known for the Pentagon, but not so well known for the towers.

00:56:56.000 The fragmented column ends, the ones that bend, bend to the outside, and you'd think they should bend to the inside if they were hit by aircraft.

00:57:05.000 But Mr. Reynolds, if you go with that story, as some have said, That there's not an aircraft, then it'll be easily disproven because... No, I didn't say that.

00:57:15.000 I said that this evidence is inconsistent with a Boeing 767.

00:57:19.000 No, I understand.

00:57:20.000 Another aircraft... It might have been aircraft, okay?

00:57:24.000 But, all of these things are secondary to the primary irrefutable evidence on behalf of controlled demolition.

00:57:33.000 That's where we've got to... No, I agree with you, because if you've been at Ground Zero, Building 7 is way down the street, nothing hit it, it falls with the classic crimp, and then the owner says they blew it up!

00:57:44.000 I mean, what more do you need?

00:57:47.000 Yeah, FEMA, or not FEMA, but NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology is supposed to be coming out with their explanation for 7, so it's going to have to be more creative than what they did on the two towers.

00:58:00.000 So you've been waking up over the last few years, you were still inside the Bush administration, what was it like to be having these thoughts and then seeing George Bush?

00:58:09.000 Well, I can't say that I suspected the US government is doing it when I served there.

00:58:19.000 But if you wanted a marker, it would be the invasion of Iraq, where I said, holy mackerel, look what's going on here. 1.00

00:58:31.000 Amazing.

00:58:32.000 Let's get into the towers themselves.

00:58:35.000 And how the other side won't debate the facts, the other side will not debate the real issues.

00:58:42.000 We'll talk about it on the other side of this break as we start the second hour with our guest, Morgan Reynolds.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 It is Wednesday, the 15th day of June, 2005.

00:59:19.000 Morgan Reynolds, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term, says the official story about the collapse of the Twin Towers is bogus, and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed them and adjacent building number 7.

00:59:39.000 Reynolds, who also served as Director for the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now Professor Emeritus at Texas A&M University told UPI, if demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers and the World Trade Centers on 9-11, then the case for an inside job and a government attack on America would be compelling.

01:00:08.000 Now we've got a short segment here and a long segment coming up, Mr. Reynolds.

01:00:12.000 And again, I have to commend your courage, your honor, for being a scientific individual, for following your training with your PhD, for going for the truth.

01:00:24.000 But you talked about motive.

01:00:26.000 Number one, key bono, as the Romans would say, who stands to gain.

01:00:29.000 Let's go over just the blaring red flags of 9/11 and then into the demolitions.

01:00:36.000 Anything else you'd like to discuss?

01:00:40.000 My favorite statement of this is from Ray McGovern, the former CIA official who leads this group of ex-government activists against Bush.

01:00:49.000 He says it's OIL, activists.

01:00:52.000 Acronym, OIL.

01:00:54.000 Well, yeah, O for oil, I for Israel, L for logistics.

01:00:59.000 The logistics needed for world global preeminence, okay?

01:01:04.000 Or intergalactic because of the space program, but that sums it up.

01:01:09.000 Now there's all sorts of, you know, a lot of motives, you know, for boosting budgets and helping The various friends in the military-industrial complex, the glory from historians, you know, the camp followers of the winning army, and all that stuff.

01:01:26.000 So, there's a lot going on, but OIL sums it up.

01:01:32.000 Bush's own biographer has come out and said that in 99 Bush was saying, I'm going to be a war president.

01:01:39.000 Karl Rove had explained this to him, and literally, Bush is now fitting the classic cookie-cutter elements you need to have a dictator setting up a police state, wars, domination to also domestically dominate his political foes, ballooning defense budgets.

01:01:58.000 Can you talk about that?

01:02:01.000 Well, yeah, this is a little bit off my scientific approach, but yeah, somebody had a book called Necessary Enemy, right?

01:02:11.000 You gotta keep this going.

01:02:13.000 The federal government lost a big thing when the Soviet Union collapsed.

01:02:18.000 And they floundered looking around for replacements and finally got one.

01:02:23.000 The Islamic world. 0.71

01:02:25.000 Of course, just the extremists.

01:02:27.000 But there you go.

01:02:29.000 By the way, did you see Episode 3 of the Star Wars?

01:02:32.000 Oh, I drew the parallels where the emperor becomes emperor by staging an attack on his own government.

01:02:39.000 Yeah, it's just another wag the dog deal.

01:02:44.000 These are not, shall we say, cut wholly of fictional cloth, right?

01:02:51.000 There's a lot going on here.

01:02:52.000 Well, Hitler firebombed his own Reichstag to get control.

01:02:56.000 He attacked his own army base and blamed it on the Poles.

01:03:00.000 Yeah, remember the Maine, you know, the Lusitania?

01:03:03.000 There's just a whole bunch of real stinky historical episodes with some fingerprints of our government on them.

01:03:13.000 I mean, look at Pearl Harbor.

01:03:16.000 Well, then you get Operation Northwoods, an official U.S.

01:03:19.000 government plan.

01:03:20.000 Right.

01:03:21.000 Talk about a smoking gun memo.

01:03:25.000 Let's talk about Northwoods when we get back, and then I want to get into the Towers Collapse themselves, and where do you think all of this is going?

01:03:32.000 I mean, as the former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor, also studied law enforcement and a lot of other things, let's project Probabilities how things are going to unfold and how we can hopefully stop a total tyranny from unfolding.

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01:06:58.000 because there's a war on for your mind we're talking to just another good american who's scientifically trained in studies in the economy who looked at the evidence, the official story of 9/11, and saw that it was a gigantic fraud from end to end

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01:07:36.000 Threaten to arrest FBI agents if they tell the people what they know.

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01:07:48.000 I mean, that's the type of stuff we're talking about here.

01:07:50.000 I mean, they talk about arresting people for any Al-Qaeda connections.

01:07:54.000 No one has Al-Qaeda connections like the Bush's.

01:07:56.000 I mean, literally, no one!

01:07:59.000 They are CIA.

01:08:01.000 It is CIA.

01:08:02.000 The Soviets, when they collapsed, This multi-trillion dollar enemy, this gold mine of centralizing our own government under a few non-free market corporations with a modern mercantile type system was gone, as our guest just said during the last segment.

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01:08:30.000 In 1984, there's this Goldstein character with the beard and the turban, and he's real slimy, and he's always on TV, and Big Brother can never really defeat him, no matter what! 1.00

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01:10:03.000 UPI articles, WorldNet Daily, you name it, it's all up on InfoWars.com.

01:10:09.000 And PrisonPlanet.com, Morgan Reynolds, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor, during Lord Bush's first term.

01:10:16.000 Going back to Mr. Reynolds, during the break we were talking and you said, look, you didn't seek this out.

01:10:21.000 You wrote a few articles, now it's a big news story, but do you feel good stepping out of the shadows and telling the truth?

01:10:29.000 Well, to be honest, it'd be mixed emotions, right?

01:10:34.000 On the one hand, I do want the truth to be uncovered, On the other hand, I'm not maybe the fearless warrior that Alex Jones is and others, right?

01:10:48.000 I'm more of the backroom, cloistered academic type personality.

01:10:56.000 I'm not seeking personal glory.

01:10:58.000 I'm just plodding along trying to discover what has gone on here.

01:11:03.000 Well, do you agree with my statement that their official story is a Swiss cheese?

01:11:08.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 Yes.

01:11:09.000 Absolutely.

01:11:10.000 Full of holes.

01:11:11.000 Everywhere you look, it just doesn't hang together.

01:11:14.000 We could take up any part of this and find serious problems with the official account.

01:11:20.000 Well, the 9-11 Commission Report doesn't even mention Building 7.

01:11:24.000 They say there are no support columns in the buildings.

01:11:24.000 Not one word.

01:11:27.000 Let's talk about the demolitions.

01:11:30.000 Okay.

01:11:30.000 I mean, that's the thing, obviously, that really wraps you up.

01:11:33.000 Probably the number one fact is Freefall Symmetrical Collapse.

01:11:41.000 It says, somebody says, you know, nature doesn't seek the path with the most resistance.

01:11:47.000 That's why you would expect a toppling.

01:11:51.000 So the South Tower, for example, actually did have that top section of maybe 300 feet bend over at a 300 degree, pardon me, 23 degree angle.

01:12:06.000 Um, but then it just, you know, it just disintegrated.

01:12:10.000 Uh, so, uh, it's the symmetry of the collapse and the unimpeded, um, free fall speed that is most compelling here.

01:12:21.000 Although there's plenty of other things that give it away.

01:12:24.000 Well, there are.

01:12:26.000 I mean, you just look at the photos and just see hundreds of feet, beams, uh, and, and dust.

01:12:34.000 And this was such a fine dust, you know?

01:12:36.000 Small micron measurement.

01:12:38.000 Yeah, it was pulverized.

01:12:40.000 It was pulverized.

01:12:41.000 There was almost no concrete.

01:12:43.000 That's very inconsistent with the official pancake theory.

01:12:47.000 And the pancake theory fails almost every turn because you would have to have that core, 47 steel core beam, core column.

01:13:01.000 They were incredibly strong.

01:13:03.000 You know, at the base, seven stories below ground, they were embedded in rock, and they were four inches thick around, you know, each column was 36 by 18 inches.

01:13:17.000 And they just don't, there's lots of testimony and knowledge about this.

01:13:21.000 They don't build them that strong.

01:13:24.000 That core was, so if you had had a pancake, You would have had hundreds of feet of that core standing.

01:13:31.000 Yeah, but Big Brother fixes that.

01:13:33.000 The 9-11 Commission, with a wave of a magic wand, says that there were no support columns in the middle of the building.

01:13:43.000 Oh, I see.

01:13:44.000 They deny the, well it's just well known, what the World Trade Center... No, every major, every major architecture school in the country, including UT, I've been down there and looked at it, studies the World Trade Center, because as you said, it has some of the biggest columns in the world.

01:14:01.000 It was overbuilt.

01:14:03.000 Oh, way overbuilt.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, it was rated at 500 to 600 percent margin, in terms of strength.

01:14:10.000 So they don't even look that strong now.

01:14:12.000 In other words, you have to weaken those columns to a fraction, a 20%.

01:14:15.000 No, the 9-11 Commission says the building was hollow, and that it was a very unusual design, and the new FEMA report, now they're saying 7 didn't collapse from a blowing up gas tank, the fuel oil, it didn't blow up because of a tower falling into it, which they tried to claim, which everybody knows isn't true.

01:14:34.000 Now they're saying it was built improperly.

01:14:38.000 Well, yeah.

01:14:39.000 Seven, of course, was built in the mid-1980s under a much different situation, and it was a peculiar building because it was built around that electrical substation that had the diesel fuel storage for the Rudy's Bunker there on the 23rd floor, built to withstand hurricane-force winds, etc.

01:15:03.000 It was a brick poop house. 1.00

01:15:07.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:15:09.000 Uh, but yeah, they, uh, now there is a difference in the implosion that I pointed out in the article and others have pointed out, and that is, uh, 7 was brought down as a conventional, um, demolition.

01:15:22.000 A beautiful, perfect, quick... Yeah, perfect, it was a bottom, uh, up.

01:15:26.000 That's the conventional.

01:15:27.000 It's like pulling the props out of it, and then having it collapse.

01:15:31.000 What you do is you pull the main support beam in the middle, then it crimps and pulls in on itself in a neat pile.

01:15:36.000 The only thing different was the towers first blew from the top, but then they quickly pulled the props out from under that, from the bottom, okay?

01:15:47.000 So the towers were a little unconventional.

01:15:52.000 Well, they had a big show for us!

01:15:53.000 Not to mention the loss of life!

01:15:56.000 We're putting that to one side, just talking technology here, but I got one email from a mother and I checked that her daughter has been lost and how it's ruined her life, etc.

01:16:09.000 and it just makes me weepy.

01:16:13.000 Well, no, I totally agree with you.

01:16:16.000 We've interviewed many victims themselves and victims' family members.

01:16:21.000 In fact, we have a bunch of firefighters saying, it was as if they had detonated!

01:16:26.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!

01:16:28.000 Yeah.

01:16:29.000 I mean, clearly you see on video the polarized blast points go down the sides of the towers, little ploofs, and then it starts falling!

01:16:38.000 When I was doing the work on this article, I found it almost amusing that The National Institute of Standards and Technology has a photo very similar to what Eric Huffsmith has in his book, Painful Questions, which shows a woman in white slacks looking out over the edge of the 94th floor.

01:16:58.000 Not supposedly the hottest fires, but if it's so hot it doesn't hurt her back.

01:17:01.000 There's no fires.

01:17:04.000 You're looking into a black hole.

01:17:05.000 You don't see any plane wreckage.

01:17:07.000 She's looking out over there and I'm saying, gee, I think they overlooked something by running this photo.

01:17:13.000 Because they're arguing that it was intense fires!

01:17:17.000 That weakened the upper structure and it began to pancake down.

01:17:20.000 We have the firefighters saying that in one of the towers the fires were basically out, and I got photos with 50 people standing in the supposed hottest floors.

01:17:28.000 Right, that's the south tower where we have the audio taped that says, we're going to just use two lines to put out, because this thing is almost out anyway, it's oxygen and fuel starved, that's why it was sooty black smoke.

01:17:41.000 They're just calling for two lines, you know, two hoses.

01:17:45.000 Nothing burns cooler than piles of paper, just smoldering paper.

01:17:50.000 Right.

01:17:52.000 It just doesn't figure.

01:17:54.000 Well, that's another thing.

01:17:55.000 The fires were hottest when the jet fuel hit, when the explosions took place.

01:17:59.000 We're talking 45 minutes, an hour later, when it's all smoked up.

01:18:05.000 56 minutes on the South Tower.

01:18:05.000 That's right.

01:18:07.000 And the South Tower, of course, is a little bit puzzling for the official account because If you buy the big airplane story, it didn't come in and attack or weaken the core to the extent the direct hit in the North Tower did.

01:18:24.000 And then the fire was pretty punk by skyscraper standards and was nearly out.

01:18:33.000 And then four minutes later, from this audio tape from the fire department in New York, Here it just disintegrates in 10 seconds.

01:18:44.000 And so you're leaning towards the camp that thinks it was a smaller aircraft?

01:18:48.000 We'll talk about that when we get back.

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01:22:51.000 What are the globalists going to do?

01:22:58.000 The control freaks, as our guest called them in the last hour, as more and more people wake up to their sinister activities.

01:23:06.000 I'm really honored to have our guest Morgan Reynolds on, as former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President Bush's first term, who's now going public and saying this official story is a fraud.

01:23:20.000 And the smoking gun really is the collapse of these towers, especially Building 7.

01:23:25.000 But yeah, a lot of researchers look at the footage of that first plane hitting and say that it doesn't look like the right size.

01:23:32.000 And then you look at the impact hole.

01:23:34.000 And the Pentagon's an even bigger question.

01:23:36.000 But personally, Doctor, I haven't been giving this proper title all day here, I apologize.

01:23:42.000 Doctor, I mean, You know, to me, I look at all the other evidence.

01:23:47.000 I stick with the things I can totally prove.

01:23:50.000 The owner of Building 7 says he blew it up.

01:23:52.000 They flew Al-Qaeda out to safety in Afghanistan.

01:23:55.000 They flew bin Laden's out to safety in this country. 0.96

01:23:58.000 They had the motive.

01:23:59.000 Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down.

01:24:01.000 They were running CIA drills of flying hijacked jets into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

01:24:05.000 That very morning, NORAD thought it was a drill.

01:24:08.000 I stick to all of that.

01:24:09.000 I think they want us to get caught in all that minutiae, but comments?

01:24:15.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:24:17.000 There's a lot of confusion.

01:24:20.000 He said that when you look at these secret services and all these black budget agencies, 99% of the effort is on disinformation. 0.54

01:24:30.000 They're masters!

01:24:32.000 There's a lot of false trails and divisiveness and false flag operations going on.

01:24:40.000 And go-betweens and different letters.

01:24:42.000 That's why you've got to take very much the scientific approach, as you say.

01:24:46.000 Let's look at the hard facts that are proven.

01:24:52.000 Absolutely.

01:24:53.000 Now, let's take some calls, then we'll get back into the collapse of the towers.

01:24:59.000 And I'm sorry to all the other callers, we're not letting you get on.

01:25:02.000 You can get on if you want to talk to our guest.

01:25:05.000 Okay?

01:25:06.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:25:06.000 We're talking about this right now.

01:25:09.000 Mark in Texas, listening on Radio Free Austin.

01:25:12.000 Go ahead, Mark, you're on the air.

01:25:16.000 Yep, Mark, come on over to your telephone, we're going to have to let you go.

01:25:20.000 All right, let Mark go.

01:25:21.000 James in Virginia, listening on the internet.

01:25:23.000 James, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:25:25.000 Hello.

01:25:26.000 Yes, sir.

01:25:27.000 Hi, I just wanted to commend Dr. Reynolds also.

01:25:32.000 He said he started at the Bush Administration week before 9-11.

01:25:35.000 I started a Ph.D.

01:25:37.000 economics program that same week, and so I guess I have a similar background as Dr. Reynolds, so my question is, how do we get through to these people, these You know, people with degrees, conservatives, libertarians, work at universities... Yeah, especially when they have this religious attitude that government only does good, trust them, shut up, we're gonna burn you at the stake.

01:26:01.000 Or even the ones who don't, who have an attitude that government doesn't do good, but they still can't make this connection and get it through their head.

01:26:09.000 Like, you know, I'm sure Maureen's colleagues at NCPA, like, you know, they seem like nice people, but what How do we get through to these people?

01:26:20.000 That's my question.

01:26:20.000 Well, some of them know already.

01:26:24.000 Others don't care to be bothered.

01:26:26.000 What we've got to recognize is how serious this all is about the kind of environment we're operating in.

01:26:38.000 We're looking at a lot of denial.

01:26:40.000 Either way, this is going to shatter old paradigms.

01:26:44.000 Either they're going to get global domination, global empire, total police state out of this, or we're going to bring down the military-industrial complex that has turned into a greater threat than the Soviet Union and Hitler.

01:26:55.000 Go ahead, Dr. And the government is so big, and James is refreshing, but maybe a little bit naive.

01:27:02.000 My short on that is the universities are gone.

01:27:05.000 Well, one problem we have here is that the big science, the government controls all these certifications, grants, contracts... The undue influence of America.

01:27:16.000 I got out.

01:27:17.000 I mean, you know, the head of the department, university, bohemian grove people, what are you going to do? 0.51

01:27:21.000 I mean, academia is not a place for... Well, I was going to go back to this.

01:27:25.000 Well, and hey, part of the answer is just keep showing up.

01:27:29.000 And the truth hurts.

01:27:34.000 That's our big weapon.

01:27:38.000 It looks like we're ripe.

01:27:40.000 About half of the American people, at least in New York State and New York City, doubt the government account.

01:27:49.000 Some people are receptive, some not.

01:27:54.000 This event is so big, it's constantly re-emphasized.

01:27:58.000 It's the root of the Bush-Cheney policies.

01:28:03.000 And it won't go away.

01:28:06.000 Do you agree, Doctor, with my statement that it's either the foundation of their tyranny or the foundation of really getting our country back?

01:28:15.000 Well, we don't know yet, but it might play out as, you know, the heavens might fall is the way I end my June 9th piece.

01:28:28.000 We've got to pursue the truth so the heavens fall.

01:28:32.000 Beautifully said.

01:28:33.000 Thank you, James, for the call.

01:28:35.000 Rick, Fred, Michael, others, you're up straight ahead.

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01:32:04.000 the but the listener the last caller and our guest father reynolds really brought it up One of my last questions.

01:32:15.000 Where is all this going?

01:32:17.000 What's going to happen in the final equation?

01:32:20.000 And I'll tell you, I don't know that answer.

01:32:23.000 But I do know this.

01:32:24.000 Evil always implodes of its own weight.

01:32:27.000 It is parasitic by nature.

01:32:29.000 It is literally a cancer.

01:32:30.000 The question is, will it crush many of us and our children and our grandchildren in the process?

01:32:35.000 Either they're going to win, or we're going to win.

01:32:38.000 There isn't either or, or both at the same time.

01:32:42.000 It is either or.

01:32:43.000 It's either they're going to win, set up a police state, use this for total control, or we're going to expose it.

01:32:50.000 You don't have a choice, you can't be neutral, you can't sit on the fence.

01:32:53.000 Dr. Reynolds, comments to that?

01:32:56.000 No, I think that's true.

01:32:57.000 Every citizen carries the weight of his society on his shoulders and you can't just sit on the fence.

01:33:05.000 Part of it is, of course I'm a big advocate, you need to do some self-education.

01:33:11.000 Weigh these arguments.

01:33:12.000 Don't just attack people because they disagree with the government.

01:33:17.000 Let's consider the facts and the arguments here.

01:33:21.000 We need a debate over 9-11, not just Uh, sweep it under the rug of history.

01:33:29.000 Well, let me just throw out a few points here and get your take on it, then we'll go back to the calls for the loaded phone lines here.

01:33:37.000 Operation Northwood's official U.S.

01:33:39.000 government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks, not just a plan, but a blueprint, a program they wanted to execute.

01:33:47.000 An earlier president said no.

01:33:49.000 Operation Gladio was carried out from 69 to 79, over 120 bombings in Europe.

01:33:56.000 Bombing school buses, killing children, it's their favorite.

01:34:00.000 Blaming it on the Soviets as a pretext for control. 0.89

01:34:03.000 Again, I hate the Soviets, folks, but they did the same type of stuff. 0.99

01:34:06.000 Putin got caught blowing up his own apartment buildings in 99 to get elected president.

01:34:11.000 His own FSB went public.

01:34:13.000 On and on and on and on and on, we have, as you mentioned, the Main, which they mentioned in Northwoods.

01:34:18.000 We could have another Main event like we did before.

01:34:20.000 I mean, these guys are incredible.

01:34:22.000 The Gulf of Tonkin never happened.

01:34:24.000 The LBJ tapes have been released.

01:34:26.000 They staged that.

01:34:27.000 So, over and over again, can you speak to... people say, well, why would they do it?

01:34:32.000 That's the biggest point of denial.

01:34:33.000 Well, why, why, why?

01:34:34.000 And I go, to get control, to get power, to be the heroes, to get us to give up our responsibility and our freedoms.

01:34:40.000 And then I give them all the documents and they still laugh at me!

01:34:44.000 Again, as you said, like it's a religion.

01:34:47.000 They just go, that's lies!

01:34:48.000 You made that up!

01:34:50.000 Professor?

01:34:53.000 Yeah, some people are not, what should we say, worth engaging on these issues because they're so dismissive.

01:35:02.000 Well, let's take a look at this.

01:35:05.000 A lot of Americans are, though.

01:35:09.000 I had to admire people.

01:35:11.000 You probably know about the Lee Hamilton interview on C-SPAN 2 with Brian Lamb.

01:35:15.000 Oh yeah, they called in and handed him.

01:35:17.000 Yeah, six out of the ten callers were putting Hamilton and Lamb on the spot.

01:35:23.000 So, this just shows there's an untapped, kind of almost covert, because the mass media are ignoring it, but there's just a huge amount of skepticism, suspicion.

01:35:35.000 And, uh, contrarian beliefs out there.

01:35:38.000 Well, it's like the old cartoon where they think they find an island in the castaways and they're sitting on top of this island and they find out it's a sperm whale.

01:35:47.000 You know, I think Lee Hamilton and Bush and all those guys are, you know, sitting on us thinking they're in control.

01:35:53.000 So let me tell you something.

01:35:55.000 The best news I've got, I've done 2400 interviews plus since 9-11.

01:36:01.000 I've been on shows where I'm attacked by the host, but when I go through the evidence, almost every caller agrees.

01:36:07.000 You mentioned the Zogby poll, 49% believe the government may have been involved, prior knowledge, let it happen.

01:36:12.000 Well, and 66% want another investigation.

01:36:16.000 CNN had a poll, after an hour's show, demonizing people in the truth movement.

01:36:22.000 And guess what?

01:36:24.000 90% out of 8,000 plus respondents believe the government was involved.

01:36:28.000 So they're in deep trouble, sir.

01:36:30.000 People in their guts know the truth.

01:36:32.000 And then when you go look at the scientific evidence, you'd have to be the most insane conspiracy theorist.

01:36:39.000 You talk about a religion.

01:36:40.000 I mean, this is like believing in the Easter Bunny to believe the official story.

01:36:46.000 Yeah, I don't disagree with anything you've offered there.

01:36:50.000 So, how important are all the government documents where they talk about the power of carrying out terror?

01:37:00.000 I don't understand what you're saying.

01:37:02.000 Well, I mean, how important is it to get out the word about Northwoods and Gladio and... Oh, okay.

01:37:07.000 Yeah, this history is important.

01:37:09.000 That's one ingredient to get people who have closed minds on it to open their minds and take a look.

01:37:18.000 It's a gradual process.

01:37:20.000 It's a person-by-person thing.

01:37:24.000 A lot of Americans, I don't think, can shuck this image that we're the good guys always, including our government, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

01:37:36.000 To believe that we would engage in some of these tricks and skullduggery is hard for some people to follow.

01:37:46.000 It's just a form of denial.

01:37:48.000 We're so good, is the belief.

01:37:50.000 Well, I think it's willful denial.

01:37:52.000 Conscious denial.

01:37:54.000 I mean, I've met people that say... I wouldn't dwell on that, because a lot of Americans are very open and willing to reconsider, and I'm one of them.

01:38:05.000 No, I've met a lot of people that go, I know you're right, I know you're right, but I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to deal with it, I'm on my own mountain, Somebody actually told me this the other day.

01:38:14.000 You guys are all down below me.

01:38:16.000 I only basically hear about myself.

01:38:18.000 You know what it comes down to is the bromide.

01:38:23.000 If your boat is sinking and you can't bail fast enough, do you bail?

01:38:30.000 Well, I bail.

01:38:31.000 In other words, even if you're doomed, you've just got to make the good fight.

01:38:36.000 Well, a steamer may come over the horizon any minute.

01:38:39.000 That's true.

01:38:40.000 Right.

01:38:41.000 You never know that you're doomed.

01:38:42.000 Right.

01:38:43.000 Well, I like what you said.

01:38:51.000 I'm coming out with a bumper sticker.

01:38:54.000 It's just going to say, just show up.

01:38:58.000 That's a lot better than just do it.

01:38:59.000 I mean, just show up.

01:39:01.000 Right, you gotta keep showing up.

01:39:03.000 People go, tell us the plan to expose us overnight and how it's too big and they're too evil and they'll never... Folks, I just show up.

01:39:11.000 I mean, I've said that all along.

01:39:12.000 Just keep exposing, exposing, exposing.

01:39:15.000 We're right, they're wrong, we're gonna win.

01:39:17.000 The truth is powerful.

01:39:20.000 It's like antimatter, I mean, to these people.

01:39:22.000 It blows holes in them.

01:39:25.000 I mean, what's the French philosopher, I forget the exact quote, but if you cover up and bury the truth, it'll explode with such force as to destroy anybody that opposes it?

01:39:35.000 Well, I've been ranting and raving here.

01:39:38.000 I want to go to all these calls, but what do you see in the future?

01:39:42.000 I mean, do you think these guys are just going to keep getting away with everything?

01:39:44.000 It seems like they may get away for now with 9-11 because it's too horrible for some to believe or even deal with, but not on Iraq, not on all the other lies.

01:39:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:54.000 I think the Iraq situation that's key is people are losing faith in this.

01:40:00.000 Now we've got statements from military people on the ground.

01:40:04.000 They're saying there's not a military solution here.

01:40:07.000 And of course, at the top, all we hear is progress, progress.

01:40:11.000 We've almost got it whipped.

01:40:13.000 Well, Karl Rove told the New York Times, it's almost like magicka, or alchemy, he said, we're an empire now, it doesn't matter what we said last week, we say this this week, we control reality.

01:40:24.000 That sounds like, you know, the classic, you know, delusional king, I'm God, and then lightning strikes.

01:40:33.000 Well, you mentioned hubris.

01:40:34.000 See, that's the thing that might be the kind of chink in the armor that brings down Goliath here. 1.00

01:40:42.000 They're hubris.

01:40:43.000 They overplay their hand so badly.

01:40:47.000 It is imperial hubris.

01:40:51.000 It makes me so sick, though, sir, to see this beautiful country, all of this happening.

01:40:56.000 I know.

01:40:56.000 My stomach is just churning.

01:41:03.000 I take no pleasure in any of this.

01:41:06.000 Well, for me, it's about survival.

01:41:08.000 Look, I mean, I'm already in this.

01:41:10.000 It's about dealing with reality and not sticking your head down underground.

01:41:16.000 Well, I want to take some calls.

01:41:18.000 Really, just my final question that I need to get out there is, you know, you say most people you talk to agree with you.

01:41:27.000 I mean, just, again, projecting into the future, what do you think is going to happen in the next three or four years?

01:41:35.000 I really don't know.

01:41:36.000 It could go either way.

01:41:38.000 And we still have a degree of freedom here, and we've got to take advantage of it.

01:41:44.000 Well, we're really talking about childhood's ends.

01:41:48.000 Being naive, folks, doesn't protect you.

01:41:50.000 Willfully naive.

01:41:51.000 And once you can admit the government ever did something wrong, or that evil people ever were in control of a government somewhere on the world, once you... And you all know the government lies just out of hand.

01:42:03.000 You know, they call it PR.

01:42:05.000 Stop being naive.

01:42:06.000 Stop denying what's happening.

01:42:07.000 Let's blast through these calls.

01:42:10.000 Denial is so dangerous, folks.

01:42:13.000 Denial is so evil.

01:42:15.000 And I'm telling you, if you just look at the evidence and get past your emotions, you're not going to believe what you see.

01:42:22.000 I mean, I'm sorry.

01:42:23.000 Look, some people think what they believe is reality.

01:42:28.000 Advertisement people tell you perception is reality.

01:42:30.000 That's a fraud, folks.

01:42:31.000 If you're delusional on PCP and think that you're walking across a bridge and really you're jumping off a cliff, You're going to die at the bottom of the cliff, folks.

01:42:41.000 You know, at the bottom of the gorge.

01:42:43.000 And so, perception really isn't reality.

01:42:46.000 And a lot of people, Dr. Reynolds, seem to get mad at me, like, even when they finally wake up, well, you ruined my life!

01:42:54.000 Yes, it's true!

01:42:55.000 But, you know, I didn't know about this beforehand, and now you've changed my world!

01:43:00.000 I didn't change their world!

01:43:02.000 The truth was always there!

01:43:05.000 Yeah.

01:43:05.000 First step to a solution is to recognize you have a problem, right?

01:43:10.000 And I never claimed I had a solution.

01:43:12.000 I mean, I'm sorry if I pointed out the house is on fire.

01:43:15.000 I didn't set the fire.

01:43:17.000 Oh, right.

01:43:18.000 You know, it's like, I've talked to firemen where people come out and they even save them and they're mad.

01:43:23.000 I lost all my stuff and the fireman's like, at least you're alive.

01:43:26.000 It's like they get mad at me for telling them their house is on fire.

01:43:31.000 All right, that's enough. 0.96

01:43:32.000 I'll shut up. 0.56

01:43:33.000 I'm preaching again.

01:43:34.000 This stuff freaks me out, as I know it does you too, sir.

01:43:37.000 Again, I love what you're doing and I commend you.

01:43:39.000 We've got to go real fast through these calls, folks.

01:43:42.000 Up next here would be Rick in Nevada, then Fred, Charles, Leon, and Michael.

01:43:47.000 That'll be it for the calls.

01:43:48.000 Go ahead, Rick.

01:43:50.000 Doctor and Alex, I thank you both for your work in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

01:43:57.000 And I hope that you are going to listen to the Coast to Coast AM program Thursday night, Friday morning at 1 AM, Doctor.

01:44:05.000 It's going to be very interesting and informative and necessary.

01:44:10.000 Okay, no promises, but thank you.

01:44:12.000 Yeah, I'm going to be debating some yahoos, but go ahead. 1.00

01:44:14.000 Yes, and Alex, I trust that you and David Ray Griffin will present a united front of refutation and persuasion.

01:44:23.000 Well, we've had Griffin on, we agree.

01:44:25.000 And Peter Lance and Mike Levine are extremely dangerous individuals, and I hope you destroy Levine especially. 0.78

01:44:34.000 Let me just tell you right now, they're a piece of cake. 0.69

01:44:38.000 I got the truth, man.

01:44:39.000 There's nothing they can do.

01:44:40.000 I hope Selly Castillo is listening to the program on Thursday night, Friday morning at 1 a.m.

01:44:45.000 I hope he tries like heck to get in with his own phone call to help you destroy Mike Levine.

01:44:51.000 I don't want to hurt him, but I hope to destroy his false arguments.

01:44:54.000 I mean, it'll be a lot of emotional stuff and a lot of buzzwords, but I'll cut right through that.

01:44:59.000 Thank you, Rick.

01:45:01.000 Let's talk.

01:45:01.000 Any questions for the guests here?

01:45:03.000 Fred in Arkansas.

01:45:04.000 Fred, go ahead.

01:45:08.000 Callers are interesting today, let me tell you.

01:45:10.000 Alright, Fred, we're going to move on.

01:45:12.000 Charles in Louisiana.

01:45:13.000 Charles, you're on the air.

01:45:14.000 Go ahead, Charles.

01:45:15.000 Thank you, Rick.

01:45:17.000 When it rains, it pours.

01:45:19.000 He'll turn his radio down in a minute.

01:45:21.000 Charles, you there?

01:45:22.000 We'll come back to Charles in a minute.

01:45:24.000 Leon in North Carolina.

01:45:27.000 Leon, you're on the air.

01:45:28.000 Go ahead, Leon.

01:45:29.000 Yeah, good afternoon, Alex.

01:45:30.000 How are you?

01:45:30.000 Very good morning, I should say.

01:45:32.000 Welcome.

01:45:33.000 Thank you.

01:45:35.000 First, let me say real quick, Thank you for being on my show here in town because I had some of the best response ever for my show with you.

01:45:41.000 Well, thank you sir.

01:45:42.000 Do you have any questions for the guest?

01:45:43.000 Yes, I do.

01:45:43.000 I want to find out some of the original video footage that was taken during the explosions and everything and some of the original people that were interviewed.

01:45:51.000 I remember one interview of a gentleman that was on the floor that the plane actually ended up resting in.

01:45:57.000 He said he came out of the bathroom, come around the building and there is a plane where his office used to be.

01:46:03.000 I want to know what happened to the interviews of some of these people and where these people ended up at.

01:46:07.000 Well, those interviews are all available from the different clip houses.

01:46:09.000 You just got to go buy them.

01:46:12.000 And I've called a lot of the people who said they saw bombs going off and they'll tell you I've been told to shut up by the government.

01:46:18.000 Doctor, comments?

01:46:20.000 Well, yeah, there's an awful lot out there.

01:46:23.000 I still come back to what is hard fact.

01:46:27.000 Well, we should have some real research.

01:46:29.000 We should have universities getting all that video and doing studies, but don't look for the government to fund those studies.

01:46:35.000 Go ahead, Professor, sorry.

01:46:38.000 Okay, yeah, I don't have a whole lot of comment, except to add that eyewitness testimony is much inferior to forensic evidence.

01:46:48.000 Do you remember the interview of the gentleman that was in the bathroom, came around and found the plate?

01:46:52.000 No, I haven't seen that. 0.99

01:46:53.000 Okay, darn it. 0.97

01:46:54.000 Well, I was hoping to find some of these original interviews, because I'd like to pull together some of this evidence myself and show people, because it's so blatant. 0.98

01:47:01.000 There's a lot out there, and for anybody to claim they've reviewed everything is not going to hold up.

01:47:07.000 Well, exactly.

01:47:08.000 I mean, the problem here is we have an orgy of evidence.

01:47:12.000 And what he's saying is that stick to Larry Silverstein saying I blew it up.

01:47:16.000 Stick to the motive.

01:47:18.000 Stick to NORAD.

01:47:19.000 Stick to how the buildings fell.

01:47:22.000 That can be measured scientifically and now all their official claims have been shown to be frauds.

01:47:27.000 But that's exciting to hear, Leon, that you're waking folks up in your area.

01:47:33.000 I do what I can.

01:47:34.000 And you keep up the good work.

01:47:35.000 I'll get out of here so other people can get on.

01:47:37.000 God bless you, Leon.

01:47:38.000 Let's try to go back.

01:47:41.000 Charles is gone?

01:47:43.000 Okay, well, who's up next then?

01:47:47.000 Mike in New York.

01:47:48.000 Mike, you're on the air with our guest, Mr. Reynolds.

01:47:51.000 Hi, Alex.

01:47:52.000 Thanks for having me.

01:47:53.000 Hello, Dr. Reynolds.

01:47:54.000 Hello.

01:47:55.000 I applaud you and your efforts.

01:47:58.000 I have a question for you.

01:47:59.000 Do you think it is possible that the building was wired for demolition when it was constructed?

01:48:07.000 I mean, is that even in the realm of possibility?

01:48:10.000 Yeah, this is one of the issues, I think, and that may be why the original plans are inaccessible, but I don't have any direct evidence about that, but that is a possible answer to the objection that it would have taken too long Too many people to wire this thing.

01:48:31.000 You know, I've seen one conjecture that it would have taken six months of thirty man-hours.

01:48:36.000 That'd take two weeks.

01:48:38.000 But, I mean, look.

01:48:39.000 Regardless, we know they blew it up.

01:48:42.000 And that's the bottom line.

01:48:43.000 I mean, that Madrid building burned for two days.

01:48:45.000 A hundred foot white flame shooting out.

01:48:47.000 Building seven has a couple of little fires in three floors and magically implodes at the speed of gravity.

01:48:53.000 I have another question.

01:48:55.000 Do you think, I see that the president of Texas A&M here, Mr. Gates, has released a statement saying in regard to you, The American people know what they saw with their own eyes on September 11th.

01:49:08.000 They suggest any kind of government conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale.

01:49:13.000 Let me just say this, we're going to have to hold our guest over five more minutes to cover this because we're flat out of time here.

01:49:18.000 But Mr. Gates, former CIA director, they've turned AMN into a giant Nazi camp.

01:49:25.000 Of training people how to be New World Order Storm Troopers.

01:49:28.000 And I have a lot of family goes to A&M.

01:49:30.000 I like A&M.

01:49:31.000 I like their football team.

01:49:32.000 I'm not bashing A&M.

01:49:33.000 But they're turning it into a CIA command bunker.

01:49:36.000 And with General Magus, they've done the same thing at UT.

01:49:40.000 And I don't appreciate it.

01:49:41.000 And I don't appreciate Gates.

01:49:43.000 You all know what you saw the magician do.

01:49:46.000 Everybody knows magic's real.

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01:53:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:03.000 We're trying to pull up the former CIA director's comments.

01:53:12.000 I didn't want Michael in New York to hang up, but he did.

01:53:15.000 Michael, if you've got that statement, if you can get back in, call back in at 1-800-259-9231 and give us the rest of that statement.

01:53:24.000 We're trying to find it.

01:53:25.000 We'll post it on PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com.

01:53:29.000 Well, we'll get Mr. Gates on it and debate 9-11 with it.

01:53:34.000 But the American people know what they saw, Dr. Reynolds.

01:53:38.000 Yes, well, yep, lots of eyewitnesses know what they saw, but millions saw the videotapes.

01:53:47.000 Wasn't that convenient?

01:53:47.000 You know, these planes are going 782 feet per second, right?

01:53:50.000 We've got these videos.

01:53:56.000 Well, it was perfectly timed out where one tower gets hit, then 30 minutes later another tower gets hit.

01:54:02.000 Well, Mr. Gates, apparently from this one report, we're probably going to debate because it's just beyond the pale.

01:54:10.000 See, that's the secular religion type view.

01:54:14.000 You know, you're just beyond the pale, not worth debating, you're not willing to talk about the facts.

01:54:18.000 But we are willing to talk about facts.

01:54:21.000 We are willing to talk about them, that's true.

01:54:23.000 Was Mike able to get back in or are the phones loaded?

01:54:28.000 Okay, well, we'll see if it gets back in.

01:54:31.000 Boy, I tell you, and again, I'm not bashing A&M, but you get this military society, the shaved heads, I mean, it really is, that's bordering on cult-like.

01:54:42.000 Well, I've got to defend A&M.

01:54:44.000 I really enjoyed my years at A&M.

01:54:49.000 Yes, there's a military tradition, but in this country we have a proud military tradition.

01:54:54.000 I'm just afraid that it's being abused and corrupted currently.

01:54:59.000 So, you know, it's a mixed bag.

01:55:02.000 Oh, I would agree.

01:55:03.000 I mean, I love A&M.

01:55:04.000 I think it's a great university, but I read the policy reports.

01:55:07.000 It's got the George Bush Library and, you know, and just the stuff coming out of there about setting up a police state in America makes me sick.

01:55:18.000 Well, yeah, I think there are problems.

01:55:21.000 But maybe A&M is infallible.

01:55:24.000 Maybe they can walk on water.

01:55:25.000 Nobody's infallible.

01:55:27.000 You know, that's absurd.

01:55:29.000 But according to some people, maybe they're infallible.

01:55:32.000 Nonsense.

01:55:33.000 Maybe that's where... Well, I'm not going to be blasphemous.

01:55:36.000 I was about to be sarcastic.

01:55:38.000 Well, let's take one final call, Professor, for you.

01:55:42.000 Let's talk to Chuck in Texas.

01:55:43.000 Chuck, go ahead.

01:55:44.000 Oh, thank you, Alex, for having Dr. Reynolds on.

01:55:48.000 I had first heard about him.

01:55:50.000 I'd missed some of your shows, and I'd first heard about him yesterday on a local show down here, Carl Wigglesworth, I'm sure you're familiar with.

01:55:59.000 Oh, what station is Carl on now?

01:56:02.000 Oh, he's on 1310.

01:56:05.000 K-A-H-L. 1.00

01:56:07.000 What did Wigglesworth say about it?

01:56:09.000 Well, it sounds like he's starting to give in a little bit.

01:56:13.000 He doesn't really necessarily believe it.

01:56:16.000 You know, he still kind of poo-poos it, but it sounds like maybe behind the microphone he's starting to give it a little bit of credence.

01:56:25.000 Yeah, he's starting to think the world may actually be round.

01:56:27.000 Do you have a question for our guest?

01:56:29.000 Well, mainly it's just a statement that, you know, keep going on the air and Get this out and just gig them, Dr. Reynolds.

01:56:38.000 Thank you.

01:56:39.000 Gig them.

01:56:42.000 Oh, boy.

01:56:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:44.000 It's amazing.

01:56:45.000 And they're taking over UT, too.

01:56:47.000 They're really making a move in Texas.

01:56:49.000 It's like CIA command bases or something.

01:56:52.000 I've been to the CFR meetings.

01:56:54.000 I've covered them here locally and it's one world this, take your rights that, put people in camps this.

01:56:59.000 I mean, I got it all on video, Dr. Reynolds.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:57:04.000 It's scary, get a lot of good young people in there believing all that stuff, warping their minds.

01:57:10.000 Well, Godspeed to you, and even if it brings down the heavens, as you said, the truth is the truth, and it's a lot more dangerous not to expose this than to go along with it.

01:57:19.000 Okay, take care Alex.

01:57:21.000 Well, I want to commend you.

01:57:22.000 Any particular places we can read your news articles?

01:57:26.000 Occasional pieces on LewRockwell.com.

01:57:29.000 Well, I'd like to get a piece for Infowars too.

01:57:31.000 Okay, what do you think?

01:57:34.000 Well, not much.

01:57:36.000 Okay, Alex.

01:57:37.000 Hey, thanks a lot for coming on with us.

01:57:39.000 Berkey, what?

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Well, I really want to thank our guest for coming on with us in the last hour and a half.

01:58:19.000 And of course he's Morgan Reynolds, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term.

01:58:25.000 Says the official story about the collapse of the Twin Towers is bogus.

01:58:31.000 A very interesting, informed gentleman.

01:58:32.000 We really appreciate his time.

01:58:34.000 He says he doesn't like having to do this, but he's got to because it's the truth.

01:58:38.000 And he's right.

01:58:40.000 And now we're going to have open phones and a ton of news in this third hour.

01:58:43.000 Any issue you want to discuss, any news item, I got the news here about, they've come and shut the place down and they've got eyewitnesses, this abortion clinic where the guy's gobbling the babies, eating the babies, sautéing them. 0.57

01:59:02.000 And I believe it folks, it fits the classic MO of these degenerates.

01:59:06.000 So we'll be getting into that as well.

01:59:10.000 And I also want to get into just a whole plethora of other news stories.

01:59:18.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:59:19.000 Charles in Louisiana is now back on the line with us.

01:59:22.000 Charles, go ahead, sir.

01:59:24.000 I wanted to ask them, after 9-11, they told our firemen and policemen not to wear, you know, breathing respirators.

01:59:33.000 And look what happened to them.

01:59:35.000 They come out of the White House. 0.55

01:59:37.000 Most of them are dying with cancer right now.

01:59:39.000 That was after 9-11 on the clean-up.

01:59:42.000 No, you're right.

01:59:42.000 I mean, the new scientists and a bunch of other publications have done the test on the firemen and their lungs are full of the stuff and they're dying, dead and dying.

01:59:50.000 Well, that proves to the policemen and firemen how much the government thinks about them, Mr. Jones.

01:59:56.000 No, I agree.

01:59:58.000 I know, I know.

01:59:59.000 Do they love being used?

02:00:02.000 Do they love being abused?

02:00:04.000 Well, I think they feel there's no way out and they gotta go along and get along.

02:00:07.000 I feel that.

02:00:09.000 Well, they can kiss this country goodbye.

02:00:11.000 They can kiss their pensions goodbye. 1.00

02:00:13.000 They're gonna be raped just like everybody else. 1.00

02:00:15.000 You know, Mr. Jones, every politician I talk to, they know. 1.00

02:00:18.000 They really figure it out themselves.

02:00:21.000 They really do.

02:00:22.000 They just don't have no other side of the fence to jump on, I feel.

02:00:25.000 And I tell you, we're going to win.

02:00:26.000 And I'd like you to keep plugging your tapes, because I feel this is the only way.

02:00:30.000 I'm making progress by myself.

02:00:32.000 Well, you're right.

02:00:32.000 I didn't promote them last hour, which I've been forgetting to do.

02:00:35.000 If I don't promote the films each hour, we don't get the films out to people.

02:00:39.000 That's why I like to remind you and call you, because you get into the news, and these films are very... It's very important.

02:00:46.000 It's very important.

02:00:47.000 What effect have the films had in your area, Charles?

02:00:49.000 Well, uh, sometimes I get discouraged and sometimes today I'm hyped up because somebody gave me a film.

02:00:56.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:58.000 What happened?

02:00:58.000 So... Really?

02:00:59.000 Well, I went to the little store up every day.

02:01:01.000 I go get a little coffee.

02:01:02.000 My wife, of course, she goes to work and all that. 1.00

02:01:04.000 Somebody handed me a film.

02:01:06.000 And, uh, it was, I think, painful, uh, questions of painful deception.

02:01:10.000 Now, did they know that you're the guy that's handed out 6,000 videos?

02:01:14.000 No, sorry, I never met this lady before. 0.94

02:01:16.000 And so the handing out of videos has gotten so feverish that now you're getting people... Yes, I think it's remarkable.

02:01:22.000 It's remarkable.

02:01:24.000 I told her, I said, well, look, be here tomorrow and I'm gonna bring you a film.

02:01:27.000 I love it!

02:01:28.000 And so, it's getting around.

02:01:30.000 They're putting more cars and police cars.

02:01:33.000 No, we're going to expose these murdering killers.

02:01:35.000 They're not getting away with it.

02:01:36.000 But, Mr. Jones, please, if people would just get off their backsides and pass out ten films a week, we could win this thing in a short period of time.

02:01:46.000 I hear you.

02:01:47.000 Take care, Charles.

02:01:48.000 Great job.

02:01:49.000 Look, I mean, I've thought about it.

02:01:50.000 If I had more capital, I could do more.

02:01:54.000 Because we spend, literally, 85-90% of the money that comes in on staff and employees and shortwave and bandwidth and rent and... So, notice I didn't plug my videos in the last hour.

02:02:08.000 And, you know, I don't know why I've always been timid about it.

02:02:11.000 You know, I'll rapid-fire about 60 seconds an hour, plug the videos, and, you know, I really should lavish more time on the films.

02:02:20.000 I mean, I could have ten different products I push, but that's not my goal.

02:02:24.000 I want to get the films out, because that's what really has the biggest effect.

02:02:29.000 So people ask me every day, we want to support you.

02:02:33.000 How do we support you?

02:02:35.000 Buy four or five copies of my videos.

02:02:37.000 Give them to people.

02:02:39.000 If you just want to support us.

02:02:40.000 If not, buy one copy.

02:02:42.000 We'll be right back.

02:02:43.000 Stay with us.

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02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:06.000 8 minutes, 25 seconds into this third hour of transmission.

02:06:11.000 Got 51 minutes left.

02:06:13.000 Masses of key news and information.

02:06:17.000 I tell you, this former high-level Bush administration official Going public is sending shockwaves across the country.

02:06:26.000 United Press International wrote an article today, published an article today, concerning his statements about the towers clearly being blown up with controlled demolition.

02:06:38.000 We have the owner saying he blew it up.

02:06:40.000 I mean, it's time to say the emperor has no clothes.

02:06:43.000 We're just stating the facts here.

02:06:46.000 Oh look, it's a controlled demolition!

02:06:47.000 Oh look, that building wasn't even hit by rubble, but it caught on fire!

02:06:50.000 Oh look, it's imploding perfectly!

02:06:52.000 Oh, the owner says he blew it up!

02:06:54.000 Oh, the CIA is basing the building!

02:06:58.000 On and on and on.

02:07:00.000 And so now Drudge has a link to Texas A&M's website Which is loading very slow.

02:07:06.000 It can't handle the bandwidth.

02:07:07.000 So we're posting it right now on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:07:12.000 We're going to go to David and Michael and many others that are holding here in a moment and then get back into some other news items.

02:07:20.000 But first off, Scott Hartman, running the show up at the network, up at the mothership in Minneapolis-St.

02:07:26.000 Paul for the GCN Radio Network.

02:07:28.000 He's got the press release there in front of him.

02:07:31.000 It's very, very short.

02:07:33.000 Go ahead, Mr. Hartman, and tell us what it says.

02:07:37.000 Okay, you got me, Alex?

02:07:38.000 Yes, sir!

02:07:39.000 Alright, it is very short.

02:07:42.000 This is just a quote from Dr. Robert M. Gates, president of Texas A&M.

02:07:47.000 And that's the former chief spook.

02:07:49.000 Right, yeah.

02:07:49.000 It says, the American people know what they saw with their own eyes on September 11, 2001.

02:07:55.000 To suggest any kind of government conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale.

02:08:01.000 And that's all he says.

02:08:03.000 Just like they said over, and that's on the official A&M website.

02:08:06.000 Yeah, that's directly off A&M's website.

02:08:09.000 And for those that don't know, they said it goes beyond the pale.

02:08:13.000 That's an exact quote of Dick Cheney and George Bush and Karl Rove, because they all read off talking points.

02:08:19.000 This goes beyond the pale that we lied about weapons of mass destruction.

02:08:25.000 It goes beyond the pale to say that we ever said there were weapons of mass destruction.

02:08:32.000 It goes beyond the pale to say that there aren't weapons of mass destruction.

02:08:37.000 I never said that!

02:08:37.000 That's a conspiracy theory!

02:08:39.000 I mean... Bush has gotten up and says, that's beyond the pale.

02:08:44.000 They love that term.

02:08:46.000 I have never had any knowledge of flying planes into buildings.

02:08:50.000 No one ever, ever thought of this!

02:08:52.000 Oh no, you just ran a drill that very morning.

02:08:55.000 And one two months before, and two years before, and... That memo's detailing it.

02:09:01.000 Two weeks before.

02:09:04.000 Literally, it was all in twos.

02:09:06.000 I mean, it really makes my head spin.

02:09:10.000 And I'm sick of it!

02:09:11.000 And then I guess under it, Scott, it's got some more stuff just saying who this professor is, you know, talking about Mr. Reynolds, former Bush administration official, just kind of list his info under it.

02:09:25.000 Yeah, actually, it's right before it, actually.

02:09:28.000 It says that the following is a statement from Texas A&M University regarding recent news reports about the collapse of the World Trade Center, and then it kind of highlights who Dr. Reynolds is and what his position at A&M was.

02:09:41.000 And then basically what Gates had to say about that.

02:09:46.000 You know, what are they going to do when everybody's talking like this?

02:09:49.000 What are they going to do?

02:09:50.000 As more and more people... Look, it's like the old movie where somebody stands up and says, we can fight back against the enemy!

02:09:57.000 And everybody says, no!

02:09:59.000 You know, movies that are made about historical events.

02:10:01.000 Cross this line! 0.80

02:10:03.000 And then one person steps across, and then another, and then five, and then twenty, and then a hundred, and then there's one coward that slinks out the back door.

02:10:13.000 Okay, so, some of us had to hit the barbed wire first, and we did it.

02:10:19.000 And I was roundly criticized.

02:10:22.000 But, that's fine. 1.00

02:10:24.000 Look, I'm not going to live under a bunch of murdering bastards! 1.00

02:10:28.000 A bunch of devil-worshipping, drug-dealing scumbags who think I'm their slave! 1.00

02:10:34.000 I'm not afraid of them! 1.00

02:10:35.000 I don't care!

02:10:37.000 I'm standing up against them!

02:10:38.000 David in Illinois.

02:10:39.000 David, go ahead.

02:10:43.000 This has been happening all day.

02:10:44.000 I go to these calls, and they just aren't there.

02:10:51.000 Okay, let's go to another call.

02:10:52.000 Ron, you're on the air.

02:10:53.000 Go ahead.

02:10:55.000 Now, Alex?

02:10:56.000 Yes, sir?

02:10:57.000 Uh, thanks for taking my call.

02:10:59.000 Uh, you just made a statement about, uh, it said that everybody knew what they saw, you know, they see this, and I agree, I think the Twin Towers were an implosion by explosives.

02:11:13.000 But I also, I have a very good friend that he told me, I told him that I wasn't sure what hit the Pentagon.

02:11:22.000 And, you know, I'm You know, and I don't know, but he said, oh, it was a 757 because we watched the tape of it.

02:11:32.000 And I'm going, there is no such tape.

02:11:35.000 And he said, well, just because you can't find it doesn't mean there's one not out there.

02:11:40.000 And is there a tape out there like that or not?

02:11:43.000 No, there is a computer rendering.

02:11:46.000 That's what I thought.

02:11:47.000 There is a dramatization that I actually have in the intro to Road to Tyranny.

02:11:54.000 of a jet flying into the Pentagon that the most surveilled place in the world is that piece of land across the Potomac from D.C.

02:12:08.000 that the Pentagon is located on.

02:12:11.000 There are not hundreds of cameras.

02:12:14.000 There are thousands of cameras in a 15 square mile area.

02:12:19.000 There were dozens.

02:12:21.000 It was like over 20.

02:12:23.000 Businesses, hotels, gas stations, restaurants that had cameras facing out onto the Pentagon.

02:12:32.000 Not to mention hundreds of Pentagon cameras.

02:12:36.000 And they came, the FBI did, they came within minutes, within 15 minutes, masses of FBI agents, within 15 minutes, as employees at one hotel, I actually interviewed them, As employees at a hotel were popping the video in to watch it, men in suits busted in and pulled their guns out.

02:12:56.000 So, so they knew.

02:12:57.000 I mean, they were like, GET THOSE TAPES!

02:12:58.000 GET THEM!

02:13:00.000 And so they grabbed them, and then for like a year and a half, we all said, what hit it, what hit it?

02:13:05.000 So they released like five frames of some stopgap motion, you know, ancient camera that shows some white thing, a white blur, obviously been manipulated, and then a white hot flash on the building.

02:13:19.000 And again, this is what intelligence agencies do.

02:13:21.000 I mean, you heard the doctor last hour.

02:13:23.000 They put layer of layer of smoke and the fog of war and false flag groups and groups of people cheering on buildings and groups of Arabs and Otago saying, get out of the building.

02:13:36.000 That way you never track it back exactly what happened.

02:13:39.000 That way, even if you prove they did it, There's so many false things when you get down to the nitty-gritty of how they did it, that you can't conclusively prove one of them, so you can't convict.

02:13:50.000 Right.

02:13:51.000 My point was, though, that some people don't know what they saw.

02:13:55.000 They just... they heard it on the news, and... And then believe they saw a video, even though they didn't.

02:14:00.000 Right.

02:14:01.000 Right.

02:14:01.000 That's... I'm just saying that, you know, that some people just hear it on the news, and then... and... and it's the truth to them, and... and... you know, it...

02:14:11.000 It's hard to convince him otherwise, but I do my best.

02:14:14.000 Thanks again for taking my call.

02:14:17.000 You keep it up.

02:14:17.000 Thank you, sir.

02:14:20.000 Absolutely, and I have a really good friend who did a lot of consulting work for Microsoft, for Hollywood.

02:14:28.000 He's a concept guy.

02:14:31.000 Really smart.

02:14:32.000 He knows all about the New World Order. 0.92

02:14:34.000 Very concerned about it.

02:14:35.000 That's why he left Microsoft.

02:14:39.000 We're talking, I don't know, six, seven figures, I don't know, what's a million bucks?

02:14:42.000 I don't know, I mean, he'd make a lot of money, point is.

02:14:45.000 And he left, I mean, he just said, I don't want it!

02:14:49.000 And, I go, man, I tell you, the good news is, I do all these hundreds of interviews, and everybody agrees with me, and my own show, they used to disagree, and now they agree, and everybody's waking up!

02:15:00.000 And I go, man, everybody must know the truth!

02:15:02.000 And he said, well, a lot of people probably are waking up, Alex, and that certainly is happening, but he goes, And I went on, but I said, but it's weird.

02:15:10.000 Then I hear other talk shows, and everybody thinks that the government wasn't involved.

02:15:14.000 And he said, Alex, that's because a lot of people just hear an authoritative voice, and hear something put semantically in a good package, and they just believe it.

02:15:27.000 So they just believe you.

02:15:28.000 Even though you're right, they're not believing you for the right reasons.

02:15:31.000 Just like when then they hear somebody else who is well-spoken, not that I'm that well-spoken.

02:15:36.000 Sometimes I am, and I'm not getting too excited.

02:15:38.000 I'm getting ahead of myself.

02:15:42.000 So, I mean, he's right.

02:15:44.000 A lot of it is just people are gullible.

02:15:46.000 And that scares me.

02:15:48.000 You know, you shouldn't know something one minute and then know something else the next minute and then know something different another minute.

02:15:55.000 You should be able to really know what you know.

02:15:58.000 And I know most of you are smarter than I am, and my audience itself is more informed at many levels than I am, but I'm talking about other talk show audiences.

02:16:05.000 I never really thought of that.

02:16:06.000 I was wondering, you know, why does everyone agree with me?

02:16:09.000 Well, it's because they hear somebody who sounds confident and is laying out some facts that sound good, because it is the truth, and so they just by a leap of faith, well, I choose to believe you.

02:16:21.000 Do not choose to believe me!

02:16:24.000 Find out I'm telling you the truth.

02:16:26.000 Who's up next here?

02:16:29.000 Clark in Texas!

02:16:30.000 Clark in Texas!

02:16:31.000 Go ahead!

02:16:32.000 Hi Alex, I would like to discuss like the first events in history that led you to believe that just something wasn't right with our country or maybe ask some of the other people in the audience what events that they studied in history first brought them to the awareness that something was terribly wrong.

02:16:49.000 Like for me it was studying about World War II and how we did all the horrible chemical warfare things and brought the Nazi doctors and scientists over here and And then also stating about Vietnams and meeting vets and run drugs and stuff like that. 0.63

02:17:03.000 And also, you know, the JFK assassination, the huge weird thing with that.

02:17:07.000 It just, it led me to believe something was horribly wrong and it's still going on with the events of 9-11.

02:17:13.000 I just thought we could maybe discuss that for part of the day.

02:17:17.000 And I really appreciate your show.

02:17:19.000 Well, I appreciate you, Clark.

02:17:20.000 That's a really good question.

02:17:21.000 I was trying to ask that question to Mr. Reynolds.

02:17:24.000 Dr. Reynolds, do you want to say anything else?

02:17:27.000 I would just like to know what events brought different people to that awareness.

02:17:32.000 And you, I'd like to know when you first had your experience of realizing that something strange was going on.

02:17:38.000 Well, I think it's the chemistry of things, but I'll try to answer that when we get back.

02:17:41.000 Thanks, Clark.

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02:21:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:21:59.000 Alright, we got a load of phone lines, a ton of news here I want to get to, but the caller asked what woke me up, and I'll tell you, my life really would make a good movie.

02:22:12.000 Because, growing up, I mean, I knew that the sheriff dealt the cocaine and marijuana.

02:22:19.000 Sheriff, uh, McCorder.

02:22:21.000 And he did it for years, and then finally, uh, they busted him and he went to jail.

02:22:27.000 But, I mean, I'd sit there and tell the police, I know you're dealing drugs, and they'd go, nobody will believe you, Jones. 0.99

02:22:32.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:22:34.000 And then I had girlfriends and people I knew, and You know, my family was just middle class. 0.99

02:22:39.000 My dad was a dentist, but Rockwell's the richest county in Texas.

02:22:42.000 So I'd go to these parties at these mansions and these houses and... And, you know, you'd have some billionaire heiress tell you she's a devil worshipper. 1.00

02:22:50.000 You find out about half the town's devil worshippers.

02:22:54.000 It was like a Stephen King novel.

02:22:56.000 So right there I knew the world wasn't what people thought it was.

02:23:00.000 You know, right there I knew, man, that, you know, the world, the sheriff deals drugs, and the people are devil worshippers, and, and, uh, ha, ha!

02:23:08.000 So, you know, years later I had trouble believing Bohemian Grove existed, though, when I first heard about it.

02:23:13.000 Still, you don't want to believe this stuff.

02:23:15.000 And, you know, I was somebody who played football, and went out partying, and did all the other stuff, but I also read a lot.

02:23:20.000 Kind of like a cross between a bookworm and a jock, or whatever, and a hellraiser.

02:23:25.000 I was pretty bad.

02:23:26.000 And, but I did read history books.

02:23:28.000 I liked history.

02:23:29.000 I guess because there was a lot of them around my house growing up, so I'd pick them up and read them.

02:23:33.000 And it was subterfuge and manipulation and backstabbing and government-sponsored terrorism and continual this and that.

02:23:41.000 And I got really into studying World War II, and I read the different history books about the Nazis and the things they did, and you know, mainstream books like Order of the Deathshed, Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Scheer's book.

02:23:54.000 And it was all about secret societies doing this and battling and carrying out terror attacks, and then I...

02:24:01.000 Go to college?

02:24:01.000 The government is good and we're going to have forced inoculations and drugging and guns are evil and we need to hand them in and world government is the answer and families are bad and I was just like, what is this?

02:24:17.000 So I thought, well, the Republicans are playing their pro-family in all this, I better go join them and fight this.

02:24:23.000 And then I thought, man, this is control.

02:24:27.000 All these Republican leaders in Austin are really Democrats.

02:24:30.000 Better get out of this!

02:24:31.000 And then, I'm against the Federal Reserve and the New World Order and the... And then there you go, folks!

02:24:35.000 That was about 12 years ago.

02:24:38.000 So, been on air over 10.

02:24:40.000 I guess it's coming up on 11.

02:24:41.000 And time's flying.

02:24:45.000 So, maybe it's longer than 11.

02:24:47.000 I keep saying 10.

02:24:48.000 I've been saying 10 for like 2 or 3 years.

02:24:52.000 But, a long time.

02:24:54.000 We'll put it to you that way.

02:24:56.000 So, it's been my own little growing experience.

02:24:58.000 And I mean, Really a child was brought up.

02:25:02.000 My parents were Christian.

02:25:05.000 But they didn't like the phony preachers, you know, that wanted all your money and acted like they were God.

02:25:11.000 And I had these corrupt preachers that lived next door to me. 1.00

02:25:15.000 So I got to witness what they were like.

02:25:19.000 And it was just so many things.

02:25:21.000 You know, Anton LaVey Had a lot, some of the same experiences, but he decided to use the knowledge of ignorant people, and to use the knowledge of how the world really worked, to manipulate and to self-aggrandize himself.

02:25:39.000 Because I read some of the writings of Anton LaVey, you know, the founder of the Church of Satan.

02:25:43.000 Just a little front guy. 0.92

02:25:44.000 You know, real powerful Satanists would never write a public book.

02:25:49.000 Kind of another front guy, or... I don't know what you'd call him...

02:25:56.000 You know, copycat or fake would be Aleister Crowley. 0.99

02:26:01.000 But, uh, Anton LaVey talked about growing up as a carnival worker, and watching how to manipulate, how to con, how stupid the people were in the towns they went to. 0.95

02:26:13.000 Well, see, I saw all that, and I saw the evil, and I thought, this is horrible, I don't like this. 0.76

02:26:20.000 I want to warn people. 1.00

02:26:21.000 But an Anton LaVey, or the people that do as thou wilt, the people that run our government, they go, well if they're a bunch of idiots, that's their problem! 1.00

02:26:30.000 We're better because we know the truth and we'll control and manipulate this scum! 1.00

02:26:37.000 And so Anton LaVey saw all the corruption and all the stuff going on and saw how gullible the population was and he decided to get on the bandwagon of using people. 0.99

02:26:50.000 Whereas, I realize you reap what you sow.

02:26:52.000 That just comes back on you seven-fold.

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02:30:43.000 Alright, we're going to go to David and Wes and Charlie and Raina and many others here in just a few minutes but I mentioned this earlier but I got to get back into it and then some other news I recalls.

02:31:05.000 This is out of World Net Daily.

02:31:06.000 It's also in the Kansas City Star.

02:31:09.000 Abortionist accused of eating fetuses.

02:31:13.000 Kansas City Clinic closed as grisly house of horrors.

02:31:16.000 A Kansas City abortionist is about to be out of business.

02:31:20.000 Not about to be out of business.

02:31:21.000 A Kansas City abortionist is out of business after investigators discovered a grisly house of horrors.

02:31:28.000 But see, people just can't believe this stuff goes on.

02:31:30.000 See, that's why they are enslaved. 0.81

02:31:33.000 With fetuses kept in styrofoam cups in the refrigerator, and one employee accused him of microwaving one and stirring it into his lunch.

02:31:44.000 The unsanitary conditions in Krishna Rajana's clinic prompted legislative approval of a new abortion regulations in Kansas, a bill that was vetoed by the Hobgoblin governor.

02:31:57.000 Regina's or Rajana's activities have repeatedly been the subject of law enforcement investigations for nearly two years.

02:32:07.000 And he first came to the attention of police in September 2003 when he called police to investigate alleged employee theft.

02:32:14.000 Detective William Howard of Kansas City Police Department responded, I thought I had heard and seen every vile, disgusting crime scene, but was in for a new shock I'm sorry.

02:32:27.000 When I started this investigation, I gotta get him on.

02:32:32.000 I gotta get this officer on.

02:32:34.000 I thought I had heard and seen every vile, disgusting crime scene, but was I in for a new shock when I started this investigation?

02:32:41.000 He would later say, Howard turned the matter over to local district attorney and three state agencies, but they love abortion, so nothing happened.

02:32:51.000 Oh, man.

02:32:52.000 Topping the list of horrors was an employee's account that she and others witnessed Rajana microwave one of the aborted fetuses and stir it into his lunch, as Howard recalled earlier when the year testified before a Kansas House Committee.

02:33:06.000 Rajana denied the accusation, but he did keep fetuses in styrofoam cups in the refrigerator, along with food and drinks.

02:33:12.000 Dr. Rajana lacked physical hygiene, testified Howard.

02:33:16.000 His hair was messy, hands dirty, his clothing was wrinkled and stained.

02:33:21.000 And I bet he's into some other stuff, I'll just tell you.

02:33:24.000 He put on an old used foot booties while we were there.

02:33:29.000 Howard testified the clinic was dark and dingy.

02:33:32.000 Well, where do you expect a human sacrifice base to be?

02:33:36.000 Had poor whiting and smelled musty.

02:33:40.000 But Lord, I wouldn't live within ten miles of one of those places, folks.

02:33:44.000 There were dirty dishes in the break room sink, on the table, trash everywhere, and roaches crawling on the countertops in full daylight.

02:33:53.000 I'm about to puke.

02:33:55.000 God help us.

02:33:56.000 Howard was afraid to sit down.

02:33:59.000 Howard noted that there were no hazardous waste containers anywhere.

02:34:02.000 An employee later testified that Regina would take home all contaminated medical and biohazard waste for residential trash pickups. 1.00

02:34:10.000 She wouldn't have to pay for it.

02:34:12.000 As for the procedure room, Howard's partner spotted dry blood on the floor and said the room looked nasty.

02:34:19.000 Two dishwashers located next to the staff toilet served as sanitizers.

02:34:23.000 That's illegal!

02:34:26.000 Folks, I've worked as a dental assistant for a year.

02:34:29.000 And I know Texas laws, and I know there's federal regulations on it, too.

02:34:33.000 And different medical associations self-enforce.

02:34:35.000 They'll yank your license. 0.98

02:34:37.000 I mean, you spray it with chemicals, you clean it, you put it in an autoclave.

02:34:41.000 Then you put it into this little resonant system inside of pure alcohol.

02:34:47.000 Really, it's like a pesticide.

02:34:48.000 It's a chemical.

02:34:50.000 And then it resonates ultra low frequency to vibrate anything off of it.

02:34:54.000 Then you put it back in an autoclave with special tape on it that has stripes on it after it's heated up.

02:35:03.000 And then people come and inspect it, and you get fired if it isn't done exactly correctly.

02:35:10.000 Before you even touch these instruments to clean them, you spray them down with basically iodine, but it's a different type of iodine.

02:35:22.000 Even stronger. 0.87

02:35:23.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

02:35:25.000 You put them in a washing machine? 0.90

02:35:26.000 That doesn't sterilize anything! 0.99

02:35:29.000 Unbelievable!

02:35:31.000 He should be in jail for that alone!

02:35:35.000 Unbelievable!

02:35:37.000 Howard noted there were no hazardous waste containers.

02:35:41.000 Two dishwashers located next to the staff toilet served as sanitizers according to employee testimony.

02:35:46.000 Photographs show the toilet was bloody and functioning as a human waste disposal in the literal sense of the babies.

02:35:53.000 Oh God, help us.

02:35:56.000 Folks, it goes on for three more pages.

02:35:59.000 I can't read anymore.

02:36:00.000 We have children listening.

02:36:02.000 Abortion is a dirty business. 0.98

02:36:04.000 It's human beings. 1.00

02:36:05.000 You can shoot your mouths off all day about how, It's a right! 0.98

02:36:09.000 It's a woman's tissue! 1.00

02:36:12.000 No, it's not!

02:36:16.000 And did you know, women, it massively increases your rate of cancer? 1.00

02:36:20.000 You're not supposed to do that.

02:36:21.000 If the pregnancy needs to be terminated, the body will do it.

02:36:27.000 Did you know there's people that will pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars To have that baby and to put it up for adoption. 0.96

02:36:36.000 There are more people wanting babies than there are abortions.

02:36:38.000 Just slightly.

02:36:41.000 It is so evil!

02:36:44.000 And folks, I've talked to people that worked in abortion clinics.

02:36:49.000 I interviewed a few years ago the beautiful, I forget her name, blonde lady. 1.00

02:36:53.000 She's like 25 now.

02:36:55.000 She was thrown as a 9 month abortion. 0.59

02:36:59.000 With chemical burns on her and her legs slashed open, to where she limps to this day, in a trash can! 0.98

02:37:05.000 An abortion, uh, anti-abortion activist got, were looking in the trash can for evidence, and found the dead baby, and today, they raised her in secret, and it, for a few months, and then exposed it, and the lab had to admit it.

02:37:19.000 That's a famous case, folks.

02:37:22.000 I mean, these are real, real admissions, just flushing babies down toilets! 0.94

02:37:28.000 And God will forgive you if you've been involved in this.

02:37:32.000 But, uh, I mean, what do you think the type of people that can do this all day are? 0.85

02:37:36.000 They're very sick. 0.95

02:37:39.000 Folks, can you imagine killing 30, 40 babies a day? 0.99

02:37:43.000 Some of them, 7 pounds.

02:37:45.000 Oh yeah, they kill thousands and thousands of babies every month, up until a week before they're supposed to be born.

02:37:55.000 Did they tell the woman you could have a cesarean?

02:37:57.000 Did they tell the woman just have the baby? 0.98

02:37:59.000 No, they go, oh, we'll take care of that.

02:38:01.000 You don't want that baby? 1.00

02:38:02.000 Oh, we'll take care of that for you, ma'am. 0.98

02:38:04.000 We'll be more than glad.

02:38:06.000 Oh, this is a big one here.

02:38:07.000 We'll sell it for medical parts.

02:38:09.000 But this guy, his employees are saying, and you heard the cops.

02:38:14.000 I mean, they've testified.

02:38:16.000 The place is a cockroach laden den of blood and squalor.

02:38:22.000 This guy is allegedly, and I believe it, in there eating these babies!

02:38:26.000 By the way, it's not an urban legend.

02:38:27.000 You can buy baby parts in some Chinese health markets.

02:38:32.000 In China.

02:38:33.000 And they admittedly sell the baby fat for collagen to be injected in people's lips in the U.S.

02:38:42.000 And in other places I won't mention. 0.99

02:38:46.000 Imagine the Hollywood scum and the rest of them having babies fat injected into them. 1.00

02:38:55.000 And there's no telling how they mix all the baby fat together, which we know they do in France, after they buy the raw material from China. 0.99

02:39:02.000 I guarantee you, you're getting diseases from that too.

02:39:05.000 There's always a price to pay. 1.00

02:39:07.000 You don't have to wait till you go to hell, scum! 1.00

02:39:11.000 You abortionists and the rest of you, your life's a living hell because you're involved in this! 1.00

02:39:17.000 And you just wait till we get this country back.

02:39:20.000 You just wait!

02:39:23.000 Till we've exposed the New World Order and gotten our Republic back. 0.97

02:39:26.000 You just wait and see what happens to you!

02:39:31.000 Your days are numbered! 1.00

02:39:33.000 Murderers of babies! 1.00

02:39:35.000 Now you want to know how I feel, that's how I really feel.

02:39:40.000 I can't wait till we get this country back.

02:39:43.000 And I can't wait till you're prosecuted.

02:39:47.000 And we're going to show everybody what you are. 0.99

02:39:49.000 We're going to show them your maggot-filled bins of dead babies.

02:39:54.000 You know, they'll arrest people all over this country if they show pictures of dead babies on the street or on their car. 0.98

02:39:59.000 But it's okay to show the piles of dead Jews that Hitler killed, and you should show those piles of dead bodies! 0.92

02:40:06.000 Oh, I want to see the piles of dead babies!

02:40:08.000 I don't like looking at it, but I want to see it.

02:40:13.000 We haven't talked enough about abortion on this broadcast.

02:40:15.000 I've talked about that in the past.

02:40:16.000 And if you don't like it, don't carry the program.

02:40:19.000 If you don't like it, shut this show off!

02:40:22.000 Shut it off! 1.00

02:40:22.000 I'll shut it off now! 1.00

02:40:24.000 You need to get out of denial out there.

02:40:33.000 I don't want to be associated with people that support abortion.

02:40:37.000 I don't want to be anywhere around you people.

02:40:40.000 You talk about denial.

02:40:41.000 You think people are in denial about George Bush and 9-11?

02:40:45.000 Forget the 3,000 people they killed there.

02:40:47.000 That was bad enough.

02:40:48.000 What about those 54 million babies?

02:40:53.000 God help us!

02:40:54.000 You don't think the government wouldn't put cancer viruses in your vaccines?

02:40:58.000 You don't think they wouldn't genetically engineer the food that makes you very sick?

02:41:01.000 You don't think they wouldn't put sodium fluoride in the water to dumb you down? 0.90

02:41:05.000 These people have killed 50 million babies! 0.99

02:41:09.000 What's wrong with you?

02:41:10.000 Okay, okay, okay.

02:41:13.000 I'm not gonna get mad.

02:41:14.000 I already did get mad.

02:41:16.000 I just... Just hearing about Cockroaches and toilets used to flush babies.

02:41:22.000 I just can't handle it anymore, people. 1.00

02:41:25.000 I'm just so sick of the scum. 1.00

02:41:26.000 And let me just tell all of you, you're going down. 1.00

02:41:28.000 New World Order, you're going down.

02:41:30.000 God's going to have his way with you.

02:41:32.000 And God's going to use us as vessels and tools and instruments.

02:41:36.000 And we're bringing you down!

02:41:39.000 David in Illinois, thanks for holding.

02:41:40.000 Go ahead.

02:41:42.000 Hello, Alex.

02:41:43.000 Hi.

02:41:44.000 Alex, can you hear me?

02:41:45.000 Yes, I can.

02:41:47.000 I was hoping that Reynolds would address whether or not he had contacted former government contacts and maybe congresspersons to see where that would go.

02:41:57.000 But then I have another question for you.

02:42:01.000 I know that you're beginning to look into peak oil, and I've heard you mention that several times.

02:42:07.000 Peat oil, if true, is very important, but if it's false, the argument between peat oil and abiotic renewable oil is a distraction, and here's why.

02:42:15.000 Well, there's clearly both oil left over from organisms and oil being produced by the tectonic magma bathylift.

02:42:25.000 structures being formed in the near-crushed mantle interfaces.

02:42:30.000 But if you have that going on, look, there's plenty of oil.

02:42:34.000 They're just not exploring more oil because they want to jack prices up.

02:42:37.000 But go ahead.

02:42:38.000 So if it is a biotic, just as you described right there, it's still finite because the earth is finite.

02:42:43.000 And all these numbers associated with the oil supply are controlled by the people extracting the oil and discovering the oil.

02:42:51.000 So therefore, you know, it's unknown, really.

02:42:53.000 No, you're right.

02:42:54.000 It's all suspect.

02:42:55.000 I just know this.

02:42:57.000 I have interviewed the oil field executives, I've interviewed the people that were there.

02:43:01.000 They have massive fields all over Alaska, all over the Gulf of Mexico, right up near the surface, really good crude.

02:43:09.000 Yeah, I used to be in the energy business, laying those cross-country pipelines, and I've been in oil fields and gas fields, and I know people still in the business, and they're still capping gas wells that I know of.

02:43:21.000 But anyway, gas fields.

02:43:24.000 That whole argument there is a distraction, and here's why.

02:43:28.000 No, you're right.

02:43:29.000 One day we're going to run out of fossil fuels, and we've had all these new technologies for eons, so we should start using them.

02:43:35.000 Well, and there's a more immediate question too.

02:43:38.000 Besides the intentional disruption of the energy supply system, which would in effect be a peak oil situation, The real issue here is the energy business model, and as long as that business model is centralized, cartel, monopoly controlled, the opportunity to manipulate the market with artificial levels of supply is going to be there regardless of the technology that we employ.

02:44:05.000 We've got to concentrate on the business model, and when you see these people on TV and in the newspapers and everywhere discussing alternatives, if they're a part of the system, they are discussing alternatives that are still centralized cartel monopoly control.

02:44:19.000 Oh, sir, you're an absolute genius.

02:44:21.000 No, you're absolutely right.

02:44:22.000 They're giving us false or hybrid systems.

02:44:25.000 They'll make us pay out the nose for them instead of giving us... Sir, they have Solar power now, that you don't even see on the car, where the car can go 150 miles an hour.

02:44:38.000 I mean, they've got, we don't even need this stuff anymore.

02:44:41.000 And for them to say we're out of oil, if we were out of oil tomorrow, we've got enough clean burning coal in two western states to run this country for 500 years!

02:44:51.000 Well, even the coal though is still a centralized distribution No, I agree, but the point is that these centralized people are now going to claim there's just no more of it to really rape us.

02:45:01.000 Thanks for the call.

02:45:02.000 Great points, David.

02:45:03.000 I'm sorry, I've got to move on and go to the other callers.

02:45:05.000 And I'm sorry I blew up onto that rant, but folks, these are babies.

02:45:09.000 And you yell and scream about the baseball game or about your precious Spurs playing the Pistons, but I'm weird because I get upset about cockroaches and dead babies.

02:45:17.000 I mean, I just can't handle it anymore.

02:45:19.000 My gut just tears me up.

02:45:22.000 Charles in Mexico, or no, Wes in New Mexico is next.

02:45:26.000 Yes, I'm with you all the way on this abortion thing. 0.91

02:45:26.000 Wes, go ahead. 0.91

02:45:29.000 Appreciate your ranting.

02:45:31.000 Earlier, though, you mentioned something about a Mike Levine and destroying him.

02:45:36.000 Well, no, I mean, somebody I'm going to be debating.

02:45:40.000 You know, I use the term destroy their argument.

02:45:43.000 The caller said destroy him.

02:45:45.000 Okay, well, what about, I mean, do you know which Mike Levine they want to destroy?

02:45:49.000 It's the person I'm going to be debating, sir, on the radio.

02:45:52.000 And that'll be on the nighttime show?

02:45:57.000 No, that'll be on a thing called Coast to Coast AM.

02:45:59.000 Coast to Coast AM.

02:46:01.000 Is that tonight or tomorrow night?

02:46:02.000 Tomorrow night.

02:46:04.000 I'll be there.

02:46:05.000 All right.

02:46:06.000 All right.

02:46:06.000 Thanks much.

02:46:07.000 Keep it up.

02:46:07.000 God bless you.

02:46:08.000 Thank you, Wes.

02:46:08.000 Thank you.

02:46:09.000 Yeah, the caller said, I want you to destroy him.

02:46:12.000 And I just said, well, I'll destroy his arguments.

02:46:14.000 Charlie in Mass, go ahead.

02:46:17.000 Yeah, Alex, you rant and rave all you want.

02:46:19.000 This country needs to be woken up and fast. 1.00

02:46:21.000 We're scum! 1.00

02:46:23.000 We really are scum. 1.00

02:46:25.000 We're in so much trouble right now. 0.99

02:46:27.000 I mean, you know, I used to think we were in a bad position under Clinton, but I'm looking back and saying, wow, those days were actually comparatively worse with the next guy.

02:46:37.000 It's just the progression. 0.84

02:46:38.000 These guys are just puppets.

02:46:40.000 Yeah, it just gets worse and worse and worse each time.

02:46:42.000 So, I mean, you know, if you think of it that way, We'll probably be looking back at this administration thinking we had it made.

02:46:48.000 If we don't turn things around, yeah.

02:46:50.000 That's a scary thought.

02:46:52.000 But anyway, I just had a quick question.

02:46:53.000 You know about the Lone Gunman and the Long Kiss Goodnight?

02:46:56.000 You know, these are shows that... All these Hollywood movies and shows where the government wants to blow up the World Trade Centers for Martial Law.

02:47:02.000 Right.

02:47:02.000 This is all pre-9-11.

02:47:04.000 There was another one.

02:47:05.000 I saw it once on a website, along with these shows and a few other things, like that rap band, you know, on their cover two months before 9-11 showed the towers blowing up.

02:47:13.000 There was another one.

02:47:13.000 All of these were on this one website, but there was another one, and I haven't been able to find it since.

02:47:17.000 I was hoping you might have heard of it.

02:47:19.000 Well, uh, what was the other one?

02:47:22.000 Okay, it showed, um, it was about a bomb going off, and this terrorist network was behind it.

02:47:27.000 And it said that during one of the frames in the movie, the camera quickly panned to the screen of this computer the terrorist was using to set off the bomb.

02:47:35.000 And as it locked onto the screen, just for that split moment, It showed the timer ticking down, and it froze just for a second on that timer, showing the time to be 9 hours, 11 minutes, and 0, 1 seconds.

02:47:48.000 9-11-0-1.

02:47:49.000 No, I've seen that, and I can't remember what the name of it is, and they do do that in the movie.

02:47:56.000 Yeah, if you can ever find the name of it.

02:47:57.000 Well, that's their little inside joke.

02:47:59.000 Criminals love to brag. 0.99

02:48:00.000 They love to leave their sickles, their signants, Uh, there.

02:48:05.000 Thanks for the call.

02:48:06.000 Okay, thank you.

02:48:07.000 I really appreciate it.

02:48:08.000 Uh, yeah, they love to leave their little calling cards.

02:48:11.000 They enjoy it.

02:48:13.000 We'll talk to, uh, is it Raina up next? 0.94

02:48:17.000 Risa?

02:48:17.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

02:48:19.000 And we'll take a few calls.

02:48:20.000 And I didn't plug my videos last hour.

02:48:21.000 I really should plug them this hour.

02:48:24.000 And the best video out there is Marshall Law, bar none.

02:48:26.000 And I hope you'll get my new film.

02:48:28.000 I hope you'll make copies of it.

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02:48:32.000 I'll briefly, quickly tell you how to get it on the other side, take a few calls and a few other news items.

02:48:38.000 And we'll just end this transmission.

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02:51:43.000 Imagine, I mean, all over our country there are facilities where they kill babies. 0.96

02:52:00.000 Keep declaring People just go into them and sit there and watch their wife or girlfriend go in behind the doors.

02:52:09.000 Think of the people that can do that for a living.

02:52:12.000 I mean, even if you agree with abortion, which is this unbelievable denial, imagine being the people in there doing it every day.

02:52:20.000 I mean, it's intense just doing medical, real medical stuff, period.

02:52:24.000 Let me tell you.

02:52:25.000 I've been in and around a lot of it.

02:52:28.000 Killing lives.

02:52:32.000 Taking a life. 0.58

02:52:33.000 It's just... No wonder the guy's reportedly eating babies and the police are saying there's cockroaches and blood everywhere.

02:52:40.000 I mean, you know, that's the type of demons that do this.

02:52:43.000 You gotta like it!

02:52:45.000 They like it!

02:52:47.000 It's been admitted in a lot of major law enforcement studies that a lot of Satanists become doctors and run abortions and they enjoy it!

02:52:58.000 And then look who this guy is. 0.98

02:53:00.000 He likes to live in a dirty office with cockroaches all around him. 0.97

02:53:05.000 That's your power you get from what you do. 0.98

02:53:07.000 You get to live in a cockroach infested cesspit.

02:53:10.000 I'm sorry.

02:53:12.000 I can only take one more caller.

02:53:13.000 Who's next in line?

02:53:15.000 Risa in Indiana.

02:53:16.000 Go ahead, Risa.

02:53:17.000 Hey, Alex.

02:53:18.000 Hi.

02:53:19.000 Hey, um, with all this information that we have on 9-11, what can we do about it now?

02:53:28.000 You know, it's great that we have the tapes going out.

02:53:30.000 Well, if we don't expose us behind it... What can we do legally as far as how do we get the information into court?

02:53:38.000 Well, I mean, and I'll answer the question if you want.

02:53:41.000 It's a good question.

02:53:43.000 Not enough people are woken up.

02:53:44.000 We have to keep pushing to where we're the majority, which is going to happen soon.

02:53:49.000 The problem is they still own the courts and people have sued, people have charged this.

02:53:53.000 The courts are controlled, they're throwing it out.

02:53:55.000 Go ahead.

02:53:58.000 Are you there?

02:53:59.000 Yeah.

02:54:01.000 So has this already gone, it's already gone through the courts once?

02:54:05.000 About, over 20 times.

02:54:10.000 How can they just ignore all this information?

02:54:14.000 Yeah!

02:54:16.000 How does the media ignore all these federal and state cases?

02:54:19.000 See, that's a whole other story right there.

02:54:23.000 So how much information do we actually need before, you know, the courts actually do something about it?

02:54:31.000 Well, the courts aren't going to do anything.

02:54:33.000 They're bought and paid for.

02:54:33.000 They were all appointed by the very people that did this.

02:54:38.000 So how do we get these evil people to be convicted?

02:54:42.000 We just say, well, number one, we gotta keep them right now from totally enslaving us.

02:54:46.000 Thanks for the call.

02:54:47.000 I hope you'll call me back tomorrow, and that's a great question.

02:54:50.000 Call me back tomorrow, I'll go to you first, we can talk about this more.

02:54:54.000 We're just trying to keep them from putting transponders in all our cars to tax us down the road.

02:54:58.000 We're trying to keep them from giving us national ID cards.

02:55:01.000 We're trying to keep them from passing drafts to make us their slaves.

02:55:05.000 We're trying to keep them from doing all this, from force-drugging our children.

02:55:09.000 We're just trying to fight them off right now!

02:55:11.000 Oh, I'd love to send them to prison! 0.99

02:55:15.000 I'm just trying to get all these cowards out there to admit what we're facing! 0.96

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02:56:00.000 We can do even a better job next time.

02:56:03.000 And great question, man.

02:56:04.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:56:07.000 I get frustrated always in the third hour.

02:56:08.000 I've been noticing because so much news.

02:56:10.000 So many calls.

02:56:11.000 So much information.

02:56:13.000 And if this stuff isn't affecting you.

02:56:15.000 If this stuff isn't tearing your guts out.

02:56:17.000 Something's wrong with you.

02:56:19.000 So much in life is just showing up.

02:56:22.000 Well, I showed up. 1.00

02:56:24.000 And I see a bunch of evil bastards. 1.00

02:56:26.000 I'm gonna stand up against them. 1.00

02:56:28.000 I don't care what the outcome is.

02:56:29.000 I'm gonna fight them!

Alex Jones Show - June 15, 2005

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