Alex Jones Show - 20050713_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

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00:00:21.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:34.000 Thank you.

00:00:35.000 It is Wednesday, the 13th day of July 2005.

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00:00:57.000 I was so busy talking about the situation with the London bombings yesterday that I barely mentioned the ruling that came out yesterday that now a lot of people are talking about, where they're saying over in Europe, they're going to go ahead and start restricting and banning 500 supplements now.

00:01:20.000 So we'll be discussing that under international treaty, We will be regulated as well.

00:01:28.000 Meanwhile, all the neocon disinformation artists are out there saying it's an urban legend.

00:01:34.000 It doesn't exist.

00:01:35.000 It's not happening.

00:01:37.000 It's all made up.

00:01:39.000 EU bans sale of vitamins.

00:01:41.000 Controversial new European laws which could outlaw thousands of vitamins and mineral supplements.

00:01:47.000 This is the London Evening Standard.

00:01:48.000 They're saying thousands.

00:01:50.000 No, it's 500 mainly.

00:01:53.000 The European Court of Justice rejected British health food industry claims that the proposed food supplements directive coming into force August 1st breaches EU rules.

00:02:03.000 So, we'll be going over that.

00:02:06.000 A lot of big developments in the London bombings, of course.

00:02:11.000 London underground exercise and the magically exploding terrorist.

00:02:16.000 Important questions by Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones.

00:02:20.000 We put this together yesterday.

00:02:22.000 Blair is now saying he's shocked that the bombers that magically disappeared, that evaporated, were British.

00:02:32.000 This shows how evil it is and how anybody could be a terrorist now.

00:02:39.000 The terrorists are just everywhere.

00:02:42.000 And of course, Scotland Yard is saying they don't even know these were the terrorists, though they're trying to ID them with their TV cameras.

00:02:51.000 But Blair, it's open and shut case.

00:02:54.000 They're guilty!

00:02:55.000 This is the same crowd that flagged a message board with Al-Qaeda taking credit.

00:03:01.000 And now they're saying it's the new generation of Al-Qaeda, and that's all been disproven, but so what about the facts?

00:03:08.000 We have the magically exploding terrorists, and new developments have surfaced, and I pointed this out day one, that Giuliani has a anti-terror consulting company, and he was just a few hundred feet away from one of the blasts in a building above it, And what is his connection?

00:03:26.000 Well, now there have been connections made to the British anti-terror establishment and good old Rudolph Giuliani.

00:03:35.000 And we'll discuss how this ties in with visor consultants and Peter Power Who was running a drill concerning the London Underground with an unnamed company and group of the exact same locations at the exact same times being simultaneously bombed.

00:03:59.000 So we'll take your calls on all of these subjects and get into more detail after this quick break.

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00:07:52.000 Big Brother.

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00:07:54.000 two two three seven that's one eight hundred six eight six two two three seven big brother mainstream media government cover-ups you want answers Well, so does he.

00:08:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 All right, it's the second segment, eight minutes, 30 seconds into this transmission.

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00:08:35.000 Before I get into More of these British and international rulings to restrict and regulate and ban many vitamins and how that ties into CAFTA and the subsections in this legislation.

00:08:52.000 And before we get into the latest developments, and there have been a bunch of new developments and different pieces of propaganda and spin that need to be deciphered concerning the London bombings, before we get into the exploding gas prices, before we get into your phone calls, We need to get into this article that I mentioned, but never covered, back on July 5th.

00:09:14.000 Just to give you the idea of what England is already like and what they're doing there, and how they're just a few years ahead of us in many respects, in other respects they're a few years behind us, in implementing a total control grid designed by the United States Pentagon.

00:09:31.000 And the same systems they're putting in there, they're putting in here.

00:09:34.000 This is why Bill Jacobs in The Scotsman, this came out about a week ago.

00:09:40.000 Big brother, UK turning into Stalinist state.

00:09:47.000 The news that the government is considering compulsory voting reminds me of a comment made by the late Member of Parliament, Jamie Cahn.

00:09:57.000 He said, I dislike almost everything that Tony Blair has done to the Labour Party, but as a former Stalinist, I'm very impressed by the way he's done it. 0.73

00:10:08.000 Boy, I got Stalinists there saying, very well done.

00:10:11.000 The revelation By the leader of the common Geoff Hoon yesterday, that the government is looking at finding people who don't vote is very reminiscent of the old Soviet bloc.

00:10:25.000 But this is just the latest in a string of deeply illiberal measures.

00:10:29.000 The hottest topic at the moment is identity cards.

00:10:32.000 Tony Blair says that they are vital to fight terrorism, organize crime, and benefit on identity fraud.

00:10:40.000 The Prime Minister and Home Secretary Charles Clark say that they will be voluntary with a vote, but both houses of Parliament at Westminster need to make them compulsory.

00:10:50.000 Few doubt that if Labour stays in power, the necessary votes will take place and be won.

00:10:56.000 And the Conservatives are pushing for it too.

00:10:59.000 Anti-social behavior orders constantly being tinkered with to make them more draconian in both Scotland and England are another sign of the government's authoritarian tendencies.

00:11:09.000 Yeah, the two-year-old throws fits, they're put on a criminal list.

00:11:12.000 Uh, forced drugging, if you throw gum out on the sidewalk, you're instantly arrested.

00:11:17.000 And if Edinburgh Member of Parliament and Transport Scottish Secretary Alistair Darling gets his way, every car will have to have an electronic tracking device to allow road charging.

00:11:28.000 Almost passed the same thing in Texas this year.

00:11:32.000 They're trying to pass it right now in special session.

00:11:34.000 I mean, this is here, folks.

00:11:35.000 It's not coming.

00:11:37.000 This will mean that every driver will be tracked by a satellite everywhere they go.

00:11:41.000 The government's own information commissioner, Richard Thomas, believes that the combination of ID cards is a step towards the Big Brother Society, although Mr. Clark, Mr. Blair, and Mr. Darling robustly deny this.

00:11:53.000 In England, the government has tried to abolish the right to silence, habeas corpus, which allows a court to demand the production of a prisoner, and the right to a jury trial for people accused of many middle-ranking offenses.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, non-terror related, no more juries.

00:12:09.000 First thing Blair did when he got elected was say, many years ago, that the Magna Carta was dead.

00:12:15.000 Which is what our Bill of Rights and Constitution is based on.

00:12:18.000 Then there are the government's attempts to detain suspected terrorists, not merely without trial, but without telling them what they are accused of.

00:12:25.000 Mr. Blair and his lieutenants seem impervious to the pleas of the Liberal Democrats and Civil Liberties campaigners about the drift toward state control.

00:12:34.000 The drift?

00:12:35.000 About the mad pell-mell rush.

00:12:38.000 They may have some reason to be less than impressed by Tory U-turns on these issues. 0.91

00:12:44.000 They originally supported ID cards.

00:12:46.000 The question of compulsory voting is just the latest stage in this move towards a new labor society that is not so much nanny state as big brother state.

00:12:56.000 Mr. Hoon is the first cabinet member to float the idea.

00:13:00.000 As a total Blair loyalist whose career hangs entirely on the Prime Minister's patronage, this claim that it is just his personal view rings hollow.

00:13:09.000 It's one of the great ironies of Mr. Blair that he has transformed the labor in a bid to make it electable, modern and less old-fashioned, left-wing and Marxist, but increasingly, as he remains in power, the actions of his government becomes more and more Stalinist.

00:13:25.000 As the Communists proved, you can make nearly everybody vote, and 99.99% turnaround can return your rulers unopposed. 0.74

00:13:35.000 But it's not freedom, and it's not democracy, and it's about time the Prime Minister and his Labor Cabinet remembered that.

00:13:43.000 Then again, the Conservatives, the Labour Party, are identical.

00:13:48.000 I mean, you've got the Tories versus Labour, and I watch every Sunday, and I get a chance, I will watch Prime Minister's Questions, every few weeks I'll watch it, and it's totally staged!

00:13:59.000 They're all for the war, they're all for the millions of cameras, they're all for ID cards, they're all for checkpoints, they're all for total control, and then boom, right when Blair is under major heat over the national ID card, he comes out and says, you watch terrorists are going to get us and it's going to be your fault.

00:14:15.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:14:17.000 And now, oh see, we know who did it, they all blew themselves up, and now you need to give up all your freedoms to us, but we're going to bring in record levels of immigrants. 1.00

00:14:27.000 Just like here, we've got to give up all of our freedoms and live in a Stasi-slash-Nazi state. 0.77

00:14:33.000 But that's okay.

00:14:35.000 That's alright.

00:14:37.000 Because the border is going to stay completely wide open and Bush has ordered the Border Patrol to stand down in multiple sectors.

00:14:44.000 That is the Associated Press and Washington Times.

00:14:48.000 So it's all hollow.

00:14:49.000 It's all a fraud.

00:14:51.000 And it's getting worse and worse and worse and worse by the minute.

00:14:57.000 And Bush comes out and says, see, you better reauthorize the Patriot Act, you better expand it, or the terrorists are going to get you.

00:15:07.000 Meanwhile, Blair has come out and he is saying that he's surprised that it's British bombers.

00:15:18.000 You know, we covered the Sky TV news articles yesterday where bombers blew themselves up!

00:15:22.000 Confirmed!

00:15:22.000 Bombers killed themselves!

00:15:24.000 And then it says, well, maybe they're bombers, we're not sure, or their bodies disappeared, they're just suspects, maybe.

00:15:32.000 But the headlines in all these articles, Sky TV, CNN, it's all BBC, it's all the same, Blair shocked bombers were British!

00:15:41.000 Prime Minister outlines four-point plan to combat terror attacks.

00:15:45.000 London, England, CNN.

00:15:46.000 Prime Minister Tony Blair has expressed his shock that the four men believed to have carried out last week's deadly terror attacks on London's transit system were British nationals.

00:15:56.000 Now again, I've literally came across over 20 articles today, all over the media, American and British, where they say, Blair shocked bombers were British.

00:16:06.000 Blair says he's shocked bombers were British.

00:16:09.000 Bombers discovered, identities proven.

00:16:12.000 Bombers caught.

00:16:14.000 Bombers blew themselves up in the Aruba Scotland Yard shed.

00:16:17.000 Oh, we can't find their bodies, but we think they blew themselves up.

00:16:19.000 We might have video of these four Muslims getting on trains.

00:16:22.000 Oh, and 20% of London, 20 plus percent are Muslim.

00:16:26.000 Or Arab. 1.00

00:16:28.000 So, boy, pretty, pretty.

00:16:30.000 Oh, we see a Muslim going on a train.

00:16:32.000 Why, he did it!

00:16:33.000 Blair shocked bombers were British.

00:16:35.000 And then you read the article, Prime Minister Tony Blair has expressed his shock that the four men believed, believed to have carried out last week's deadly terror attacks on London transit system were British nationals.

00:16:50.000 But the headline, Blair shocked bombers were British.

00:16:55.000 Now again, you read that and you get, boy, they found them.

00:16:58.000 Just like within an hour of the bombings, they have video of Al-Qaeda training tapes from four years ago.

00:17:04.000 Those bases were built, funded by the U.S.

00:17:07.000 government by the way, that's admitted.

00:17:09.000 Charging the camera!

00:17:11.000 They're going to get you!

00:17:13.000 Any minute now!

00:17:15.000 And of course, the bombs were military-grade explosives.

00:17:18.000 They were simultaneous.

00:17:20.000 This fits the MO of Western Intelligence Agency.

00:17:22.000 So we're going to go over all that and the situation with the vitamins being banned.

00:17:26.000 It's all happening.

00:17:27.000 But right now, without further ado, let's go ahead and go to the calls.

00:17:36.000 David in mass, then James, Rodney, Robert, and others.

00:17:41.000 Go ahead, David.

00:17:42.000 Alex, how are you today?

00:17:44.000 A lot of news to cover.

00:17:45.000 Hey, Alex, listen.

00:17:49.000 The morning show's paraded Richard Clarke this morning out to parrot the official story, of course, that the Obamers, of course, British citizens and... That's Richard Clarke!

00:18:00.000 Why, he criticized Bush!

00:18:01.000 We can trust him!

00:18:02.000 That's right!

00:18:03.000 He's the darling of the left, because he's exactly... Well, it's like Colin Powell said the war wasn't good until suddenly he switched sides and said, here's the anthrax, they're guilty.

00:18:13.000 That's right.

00:18:14.000 And here's another interesting thing, Alex.

00:18:16.000 Last night, I went to Visor Consultants' homepage, their website.

00:18:21.000 Not one word about Mr. Peter Power's interview.

00:18:25.000 Not one word.

00:18:28.000 You can't find it anywhere.

00:18:30.000 No mention of it at all on their site.

00:18:31.000 I combed the entire site.

00:18:35.000 Well, again, for those who don't know, tell them what Visor Consultants is.

00:18:38.000 Well, they're supposedly the company that contracted to do a drill exercise in the London Underground at the exact same time that, of course, the real bombing happened for an unnamed company.

00:18:49.000 But not just the exact same time, the exact same three terminals out of 220-plus.

00:18:54.000 The exact same transactions.

00:18:56.000 We've now learned that he's been the spokesman on bombings, the main spokesman for over a decade.

00:19:02.000 Oh, and he worked at Scotland Yard.

00:19:04.000 He's a very special man.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:19:06.000 You can go on there and you see a nice little color photograph of Peter Power up there, but not one word about his admission that they were running a drill.

00:19:18.000 You'd think he'd want to brag more about that now.

00:19:20.000 Exactly.

00:19:21.000 So this kind of looks like Silverstein, doesn't it, Alex?

00:19:25.000 You know, I'm not going to say that Mr. Power was involved because he went out and spilt his guts.

00:19:32.000 Easily they could be hired again to create the echelon traffic on the phones and systems of a drill so that good police wouldn't become basically notified of what was happening.

00:19:44.000 Alex, this is just for plausible deniability.

00:19:46.000 That's all it is.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, it's a cover.

00:19:48.000 Exactly.

00:19:50.000 But it'd be easy for them to hire him and for this to be done and his group to have nothing to be involved with.

00:19:55.000 We're doing some investigations and it's pretty spooky.

00:19:58.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

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00:24:20.000 And then coming up later in the next segment, I'll get into some of the connections that we're now learning about concerning Peter Bauer and members of the British government and what his past role has been.

00:24:36.000 Thank you.

00:24:38.000 Getting very, very suspicious.

00:24:41.000 Right now let's go to James in Michigan.

00:24:43.000 James go ahead.

00:24:43.000 Hi Alex.

00:24:45.000 Uh, you know, I was wondering here, uh, I was doing some research on this, uh, well, what's going on with Bin Laden.

00:24:53.000 And I had found out something here back in 1989 when the first Bush was in office.

00:24:59.000 He had sent the CIA advisors over there to help Bin Laden fight the Russians.

00:25:04.000 Well, it wasn't in 1989.

00:25:05.000 It was long before that.

00:25:08.000 It started in 1979, even before the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

00:25:14.000 By the mid-1980s, Bin Laden was commanding the Mujahideen with the help of Delta Force and Green Berets, and was given billions of dollars of U.S.

00:25:24.000 funding.

00:25:25.000 Right.

00:25:25.000 And then, the thing that makes me laugh, though, is they say, well, we won't stop until we find Osama Bin Laden.

00:25:34.000 But yet, We had given him aid and help to fight the Russians.

00:25:40.000 Well, Bush said the number one job was catching Bin Laden for about six months.

00:25:43.000 Then they actually said, forget about Bin Laden, Saddam's the threat.

00:25:47.000 And then Bush later in press conferences said, I'm not worried about him, I don't want to find him, we're not trying to get him.

00:25:53.000 Don't you remember that?

00:25:54.000 Oh yeah, I remember that.

00:25:55.000 Well then also, the other Bin Laden members of the family were They've known to have been barbecuing with Bush down there in Crawford, Texas.

00:26:02.000 You know, these are the other Bin Ladens' relatives. 0.99

00:26:04.000 Well, not just barbecuing.

00:26:05.000 They stay at the Bin Ladens' homes in Saudi Arabia. 0.97

00:26:08.000 They vacation with them.

00:26:10.000 They're very close friends going back into the early 1970s.

00:26:13.000 Such good friends that the head of the Bin Laden family invested with George W. in 1976 to start Obusto Oil.

00:26:21.000 They own airports together.

00:26:23.000 They're just a wonderful family group, kind of like Bill Clinton is a member of the family now, according to Barbara.

00:26:29.000 That's the major publications admitting that, like the Boston Globe.

00:26:33.000 That's Barbara's own quotes. 0.74

00:26:35.000 And they flew him out to safety on the days after 9-11.

00:26:40.000 It's always been staged.

00:26:41.000 On the morning of 9-11, Bush Sr.

00:26:43.000 was having breakfast at the Ritz Carlton in D.C.

00:26:46.000 This is the Associated Press.

00:26:47.000 At the main table with the other main shareholders and having breakfast at the table with the Bin Laden family. 0.95

00:26:54.000 Good personal friends and everything's fine.

00:26:57.000 Everybody's got to be arrested, though, that has connections to the Bin Ladens. 1.00

00:27:01.000 Oh, and then they claim the Bin Ladens aren't involved in any terror. 0.98

00:27:04.000 Oh, it's just Osama. 0.90

00:27:05.000 You know, the black sheep of it all. 0.99

00:27:07.000 He's, he's bad.

00:27:09.000 And the Bin Ladens made, in the first year after 9-11, three billion extra off their defense investments.

00:27:15.000 Three billion more than they made the year before, just off their defense investments off the war.

00:27:20.000 So, things have gone quite nicely for them.

00:27:23.000 Well, the whole thing is that people are being bamboozled, but I believe my own opinion is that a lot of them are just like sheep.

00:27:30.000 You know, they're out there grazing in the meadow, and Bush is setting us all up for the slaughter.

00:27:35.000 I hear you.

00:27:35.000 Thanks for the call.

00:27:36.000 This is how it works.

00:27:38.000 Back in the fifties, even before that, our government didn't like secular, even pro-western governments, but they wanted to be sovereign.

00:27:46.000 They didn't want strong, healthy, vibrant economies in the Middle East. 0.79

00:27:49.000 So they would overthrow good elected governments, and they would put in radical Muslims. 1.00

00:27:54.000 Because then they would get to say that was a crisis and build a military up against it.

00:28:00.000 And this was admitted.

00:28:01.000 And the Bin Ladens go back to being British Crown servants back to like 1918. 1.00

00:28:08.000 When they helped carve up that area after World War I and they gave the House of Saud a bunch of weapons, the Bin Ladens were some of their biggest supporters. 0.94

00:28:14.000 So the Bin Ladens have been British intelligence back until 1918.

00:28:19.000 They became big buddies with the Bushes when the Bushes became powerful and Bush was CIA Director and then Ambassador to China and then of course later in Congress.

00:28:30.000 So that's why you see this happening.

00:28:35.000 And they've been great, great buddies.

00:28:37.000 Spy Chiefs together.

00:28:39.000 And they've just done a wonderful job carrying out 9-11. 1.00

00:28:43.000 A wonderful job fooling the public.

00:28:44.000 And they all stand to gain from it, too.

00:28:47.000 They even have the motives.

00:28:48.000 But let's just ignore it.

00:28:49.000 Everything's fine.

00:28:50.000 Let's just give our rights up. 0.98

00:28:51.000 How's that sound?

00:28:53.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Rodney in Texas.

00:28:55.000 Rodney, go ahead.

00:28:56.000 Alex, great show.

00:28:57.000 Thank you.

00:28:58.000 I want to commend you for the accuracy on your website.

00:29:02.000 And speaking of giving up our rights, I was visiting your website this morning and I noticed that although many of the Congress people protested this recent passage of the Patriot Act, they went ahead on and did it anyway.

00:29:17.000 Can you comment on that?

00:29:18.000 And also there was a story on your website that I found very curious.

00:29:23.000 It was a story with Charles Rangel and it indicated that there might have been some hush money passed to keep him shut up.

00:29:29.000 And also this thing with the... Can you hold me over until I... Sure, yeah.

00:29:35.000 Stay there Rodney, we'll be right back folks.

00:29:39.000 All part of the new freedom though.

00:29:41.000 And, uh, I mean, you know, let's just give all our rights up.

00:29:44.000 That's what America's all about, is being slaves. 0.97

00:29:46.000 Freedom is being a slave.

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00:33:04.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:33:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:13.000 One of the things Rodney was just mentioning was an article came out a few days ago where Bush said, well, whoever did this, don't worry, I'll take care of them.

00:33:28.000 And the media then extrapolated that out to, uh, we will, uh, he will fire them.

00:33:35.000 And then the article he posted was saying it's just a threat, you know, that Bush will, you know, really, to quote, take care of them, like, like Bill Clinton would do with Ron Brown or somebody if they got too embarrassing.

00:33:47.000 You know, with the Communist generals in the Commerce Department engaging in high treason.

00:33:53.000 But, no, I think Bush meant he'll take care of him and defend him and protect him.

00:33:58.000 They're not really into scapegoating their minions or their analysts or their little compatriots.

00:34:06.000 They're just into arrogantly saying, so what?

00:34:09.000 I mean, Rumsfeld's tried to turn in his resignation three times and Bush won't take it.

00:34:14.000 They just don't care.

00:34:18.000 I know Bush is a good conservative, and I'm an evil liberal for exposing him. 0.99

00:34:21.000 I mean, that's ridiculous, folks. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Bush is a puppet. 0.98

00:34:24.000 Rove is even a puppet, just carrying out an agenda of the private corporate interest that want to be bigger than governments, are bigger than most governments, and that are taking over our society. 0.92

00:34:36.000 But Rodney, finish up what you were saying.

00:34:38.000 Well, you basically covered what I called about, but I just want to commend you for your accuracy, because all of these major newspapers that I went to prior to seeing that article and Bush's statements used the word fired, and you were the only one who said, well, no, the more accurate term that he used was, they would be taken care of.

00:34:58.000 And I want to put in a real brief plug for you, not that you need it, If people really want accurate news and news is truthful, go to InfoWars or Prison Planet.

00:35:10.000 That's all I got for you, Alex.

00:35:11.000 Thank you.

00:35:12.000 Alright, Rodney.

00:35:12.000 Thanks a lot.

00:35:15.000 I would add to what he just brought up about the Bushes and Karl Rove.

00:35:23.000 Everybody is getting so obsessed with Karl Rove.

00:35:25.000 Bring down Karl Rove.

00:35:26.000 Bring down Karl Rove. 0.61

00:35:29.000 They're like shark teeth, folks.

00:35:31.000 One set of teeth falls out, another set of teeth rolls forward.

00:35:34.000 We've got to get rid of the beast itself, this 30-foot great white shark that's savaging our society.

00:35:42.000 And until we start talking about the beast itself and not just its implements and its minions, things are only going to get worse.

00:35:51.000 It is very suspect that, you know, we're not talking about them banning vitamins.

00:35:54.000 We're not talking about Karl Rove and the sellout of the CIA agents.

00:35:58.000 We're not talking about CAFTA.

00:35:59.000 We're not talking about how they're trying to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

00:36:03.000 You know, now we're talking about the London bonnets.

00:36:06.000 And we're being forced to cover it because the official story is a giant fraud.

00:36:13.000 But, you know, I keep repeating this because it's so important.

00:36:20.000 They're setting up this massive police state here in America, taking all of our liberties, just turning the police state burners up on mega-high, and meanwhile there are less border patrol on the north and south borders, and Bush has been caught publicly ordering the border patrol to stand down and let the illegals come across! 0.81

00:36:41.000 And federal, state, and local governments are giving the illegal aliens home loans! 0.99

00:36:46.000 Government-guaranteed home loans!

00:36:50.000 Private corporations won't do it, though some of them are, but predominantly it's the government.

00:36:55.000 They take your tax money and give it to illegal aliens to buy houses. 0.94

00:37:00.000 I mean, there's another example.

00:37:01.000 The government does not see these people as illegal.

00:37:04.000 But they know that it is wildly unpopular, and that you're very angry about this, and that you're waking up that the whole war on terror is transparent, because they won't do anything about illegal aliens, so they've got to, in name only, claim that they're still illegal aliens.

00:37:21.000 But notice they're changing the term now to just immigrants, or undocumented workers.

00:37:27.000 So we've got 30 million people without ID cards just floating around doing whatever they want.

00:37:34.000 Just masses of sheriffs and police chiefs have gone public and said, we arrest van loads full of illegal aliens with guns and drugs.

00:37:41.000 They're in jail for a week and then released.

00:37:44.000 Because the federal courts don't want them, the state courts don't want them.

00:37:48.000 There was a Houston Chronicle last year article where in South Texas alone, 400,000 illegal aliens were released out of prisons.

00:37:58.000 And over half of them were in there for felonies.

00:38:01.000 Just in there a few weeks, a few months maximum, released.

00:38:05.000 I mean, it was like the railway killer. 0.51

00:38:07.000 He killed over ten people, admittedly.

00:38:10.000 And he would be caught, and they would just release him over and over and over again.

00:38:14.000 I mean, literally, folks, they have more rights than citizens do.

00:38:19.000 I talked about this yesterday, but whenever the cops pull you over and want to search your car, just look at them and go, well, why don't you do this to the illegal aliens? 1.00

00:38:27.000 Oh, you've been told to leave them alone.

00:38:30.000 Why don't you go join the Border Patrol, officer?

00:38:32.000 You want to search vehicles.

00:38:34.000 That's where you're supposed to be, searching vehicles.

00:38:36.000 Why don't you leave me alone?

00:38:37.000 Well, what have you got to hide?

00:38:38.000 Well, I want my children to live in a free country.

00:38:41.000 You know, checkpoints aren't freedom.

00:38:42.000 Well, things have changed after 9-11, the cops will say.

00:38:45.000 Well, they have?

00:38:47.000 I guess you're right.

00:38:48.000 There's 2,000 less Border Patrol on the southern border alone.

00:38:51.000 I guess you're right, officer.

00:38:52.000 Don't you have better things to do, officer?

00:38:57.000 All right, let's go quickly to your calls.

00:38:58.000 Let's talk to Robert in Colorado, then Bart, Ron, and Jenna.

00:39:02.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

00:39:04.000 Good morning, Alexander.

00:39:05.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:39:07.000 Two quick points.

00:39:10.000 What do you think was really going on with that live aid concert around the world last week or two ago?

00:39:15.000 I've heard that the money was supposed to go to Africa ostensibly, but that some of those countries are led by dictators, and we're breaking bread with them.

00:39:24.000 So I'm wondering, A lot of money was gathered, which I assume it was.

00:39:27.000 You think there was really something to that?

00:39:29.000 Eight of the nine, eight of the nine, and we've confirmed this, eight of the nine African leaders that stood behind them, there was something like twenty-something African leaders, why was it eight of the nine, the people they picked, they all had terrorist backgrounds of being rebel terrorist leaders, most of them were socialists or communists, and here you have live eight And so, on the surface, what they're saying is true. 0.93

00:39:55.000 That money is going to Africa.

00:39:57.000 But it's going for forced inoculation programs. 0.98

00:40:00.000 It's going for shipping in genetically modified food.

00:40:03.000 It's going to prop up the client despots and viceroys over those communities. 1.00

00:40:12.000 And so again, they have Bono and these other people up there peddling all this to give it this trendy look.

00:40:19.000 And then the push is, we've got to have a global tax on oil at the wellhead, or you're against the Africans and other third world populations.

00:40:28.000 We've got to have more taxes paid and given into the IMF and World Bank to quote, give loans.

00:40:34.000 But the IMF and World Bank documents came out three years ago.

00:40:38.000 The BBC even reported on it.

00:40:39.000 We had Greg Palastano, Newsnight presenter, And right there in the documents it said, we go in, we pay off a dictator to not pay off the loan, he retires the Switzerland with the money, but signs over all the natural resources and control of the population to the IMF and World Bank, who then give those contracts to private corporations.

00:41:02.000 So all this is, is taking our tax money and the money that we're gullible enough to give, you know, we buy a bracelet that says for African Aid at 7-Eleven, it all goes to enslave those people thanks for the call. 0.99

00:41:15.000 I was listening to USA Radio Network, one of the most neocon propaganda arms out there.

00:41:20.000 But we have stations that request news, and so that's the news that we carry.

00:41:26.000 We ought to start our own news division, we just don't have the money to do it.

00:41:29.000 But every time I listened to it, they had some expert on there.

00:41:34.000 Don't go give your money.

00:41:36.000 Individually to the victims.

00:41:38.000 Don't send food.

00:41:40.000 Give it to one of the big aid agencies like the Red Cross.

00:41:45.000 That's who can be trusted.

00:41:46.000 The Red Cross is... I don't mean you out there that volunteered to give out blankets.

00:41:52.000 I mean the Red Cross leadership is criminal.

00:41:56.000 They have been convicted of robbing mail and signing checks over to themselves.

00:42:00.000 I mean at the highest levels.

00:42:02.000 United Way has been caught more times than I can remember.

00:42:05.000 You know, stealing.

00:42:07.000 The director takes $15 million for themselves and nothing happens.

00:42:11.000 Over half the money for the 9-11 victims didn't go to them.

00:42:14.000 Though they advertised it would.

00:42:16.000 It's a scam, folks.

00:42:18.000 It's a big, fat scam.

00:42:20.000 Let's go to Bart in Texas.

00:42:22.000 Bart, go ahead.

00:42:23.000 Hey, Alex.

00:42:24.000 You know, I really want to relate an experience that I've been having down here in Houston trying to fight to keep Houston Media Source alive.

00:42:32.000 And I want to tell all your listeners out there that if you want to really feel alive, if you really want to get in the fight, get out there!

00:42:38.000 Find the issue that you're passionate about.

00:42:40.000 You know, you've really been drumming this message of everyone needs to be a leader.

00:42:44.000 And right now, you know, in the public and the population, people are ready.

00:42:49.000 The people are ready for leaders.

00:42:51.000 And if everyone that listened to your show really went out there and got involved, went to their city council, went and formed organizations for the causes that they believe in, that they want to fight for, We could win this thing.

00:43:02.000 Because I've never, I've never in my life felt more alive than when I stood in front of my city council and declared my opinions on what I thought was right versus someone that I, pretty obviously to me, was just having a political agenda.

00:43:16.000 Well for those who don't know what you're talking about, all over the country they're shutting AXS TV down because patriots and truth seekers have been putting good programming on and they're trying to shut it down in Houston.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, well, they've gone about it by trying to say it's obscene.

00:43:33.000 And, you know, the councilwoman, Weissman, she keeps quoting all these laws that have absolutely nothing to do with public access.

00:43:39.000 She waves around, you know, very McCarthy-like FCC regulations that have nothing to do with public access and PEGs.

00:43:46.000 Yeah, FCC doesn't regulate cable.

00:43:50.000 Well, yeah, and I mean, the other thing is that she keeps saying that we have to have preemptive screening.

00:43:55.000 And that goes against the very forum that this is set up for.

00:43:58.000 And again, she's trying to hold the entire media system, uh, Houston Media, access. 1.00

00:44:03.000 Listen, listen, I know, Bart, it's because some idiots prance around dressed like women. 1.00

00:44:10.000 That's it. 1.00

00:44:10.000 Using cuss words at two in the morning, it's bad. 1.00

00:44:12.000 But you tune into mainstream TV at nine o'clock at night and they're using the F word and men are in bed together.

00:44:20.000 What's sad is that there is a process to hold each show accountable, but she's trying to hold the whole system accountable.

00:44:25.000 Well, you need to get in there, sir, and you need to get your own show.

00:44:28.000 I do have my own show, and we're broadcasting your stuff, we're getting the message out, and we're going to keep fighting.

00:44:34.000 If they do shut down Houston Media Source, I'm going to turn around and I'm going to start a petition to get it back on, and we're not going to give up.

00:44:41.000 I hear you.

00:44:42.000 Keep it up, Bart.

00:44:42.000 You need to put up a 300-watt pirate transmitter.

00:44:46.000 I'm just joking.

00:44:47.000 Don't do that.

00:44:49.000 Ron in New York.

00:44:50.000 Ron, you're on the air.

00:44:51.000 Go ahead, Ron.

00:44:52.000 Hello, Alex.

00:44:53.000 Reporting from New York today, the city of New York.

00:44:57.000 I think maybe we should call it the Soviet state, or better yet, the international territory of New York.

00:45:03.000 Today, the mayor of New York, with the majority support of our city council, signed a bill which would allow illegal aliens to obtain licenses issued by the city Act the same way that a U.S.

00:45:17.000 citizen would.

00:45:19.000 Well, 870-something cities, last time I saw the federal numbers, that was a year ago, are now doing this.

00:45:25.000 Vicente Fox came to Austin and gave awards to the city for doing this.

00:45:31.000 I mean, it's felonies being committed in front of all of us, but it's all selectively enforced.

00:45:36.000 Well, it's not even a matter of selective enforcement in this case.

00:45:39.000 They've now institutionally legitimized a non-American citizen, who is here illegally, obtaining a license from the city. 0.60

00:45:47.000 Now, these licenses... And they get more tuition than citizens?

00:45:50.000 They're going to give them home loans through the city?

00:45:53.000 Let me finish my point with this.

00:45:56.000 These licenses, there's a category of licenses.

00:45:58.000 They're usually very coveted, most of them.

00:46:01.000 You'll now have an American citizen competing To get a license with an illegal alien. 0.87

00:46:07.000 Now, as it is, anybody who lives in New York City can back me up on this.

00:46:11.000 Most of these licenses are issued to immigrants at this stage.

00:46:15.000 Probably non-illegal up to this point.

00:46:18.000 And the minority of these licenses, the very small portion, are issued to native-born Americans.

00:46:23.000 Tell it's a special type of license.

00:46:25.000 Give us the specifics.

00:46:27.000 Well, you have various licenses.

00:46:28.000 You have peddler licenses.

00:46:29.000 You have licenses to run a newsstand.

00:46:32.000 Licenses to operate a hot dog stand.

00:46:34.000 Things like that.

00:46:35.000 And what do they call it?

00:46:36.000 A medallion that costs $100,000 for your cab?

00:46:39.000 For cabs, it's called a medallion.

00:46:41.000 That's correct.

00:46:42.000 But the illegals will get it for free! 1.00

00:46:45.000 Hold on a second, Alex.

00:46:47.000 No, it's about undermining us.

00:46:48.000 There's no way to win against us.

00:46:49.000 Listen to how much further absurd it is.

00:46:51.000 No, I know.

00:46:52.000 A small number of these licenses are possessed by native-born American citizens, and the majority of those are old disabled war veterans.

00:47:00.000 This city, over the last several years, has raised hell in an attempt to literally pull the licenses and close down whatever few stands these American, disabled American war veterans have.

00:47:12.000 And now they've signed a law to allow an illegal alien, it's an invader, into the United States to obtain the licenses. 0.89

00:47:20.000 It gets better than that.

00:47:21.000 I once said to you a story about, probably two years back, of a house on the block in which I live.

00:47:27.000 The basement dwellings in the city of New York are illegal.

00:47:31.000 The basement was occupied by two people, American citizens, native-born, generational Americans.

00:47:37.000 We had the building department go to that building almost every day to harass and harangue these people until eventually they were thrown out of that building.

00:47:44.000 And then they put 15 illegals in there?

00:47:46.000 Yup, now we've got 15 illegals from the Balkans, Eastern European illegals, crawling all over the building. 0.79

00:47:52.000 Sir, sir, I know a lady None of my whole life, literally. 0.88

00:47:56.000 Good friend of the family, who manages, actually several apartments, but the biggest in Austin.

00:48:02.000 And they were told, you let illegals do whatever they want, citizens are out. 1.00

00:48:06.000 Well, you know, how much longer are we as citizens, the majority, the people of this country, the people who built and created this country's infrastructure, going to be weak, cowardly, and stupid? 0.99

00:48:16.000 Well, for those who don't know, I'm against all these medallions and licenses, but to have a cab, or have a stand, or sell hot dogs, You gotta jump through a hundred hoops. 0.99

00:48:25.000 But then all over the country, they give discounts to the illegals. 0.87

00:48:29.000 Again, these are incentives to get them here.

00:48:32.000 And then force us to pay taxes to this entity called the government.

00:48:36.000 It's not our government.

00:48:37.000 Never use the term, our government.

00:48:38.000 Sir, it is a magnet to pull.

00:48:40.000 You think 30 million illegals is bad? 1.00

00:48:42.000 They're saying in the next 10 years, it'll be another 30 mil.

00:48:45.000 When they bring their whole family, it's another 30, 40 mil. 0.73

00:48:48.000 We're gonna allow ourselves to be displaced into the gutter?

00:48:52.000 We're going to, as citizens, we're going to... Understand, it's not free market!

00:48:56.000 Let me stop you, Ron.

00:48:57.000 It's not free market.

00:48:58.000 Just what you saw is a police officer harassing the two people who live in the basement.

00:49:03.000 So, look, they've been told.

00:49:05.000 This is by design, sir.

00:49:08.000 But what I'm saying is how long are we, as the majority, American citizens, we are the vast majority in this country, how long are we going to sit back and be spat upon like this?

00:49:17.000 Well, Ron, I appreciate your call.

00:49:19.000 Look, The people aren't sitting back.

00:49:21.000 I mean, in major polls, 87% of Americans, including 65 plus percent of Hispanics, they're trying to make it a racial issue, it's not, are against the open borders and the illegal aliens.

00:49:31.000 We all know it's bad for us.

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00:49:35.000 So the government knows you're angry.

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00:49:42.000 They know you're angry and they're moving to suppress us.

00:49:46.000 So the people aren't putting up with it, Ron.

00:49:48.000 They're not.

00:49:50.000 And, uh, yeah.

00:49:51.000 They, uh, predominantly only issue the medallions to the illegal aliens.

00:49:55.000 And, uh, you ask how that is?

00:49:58.000 It is done by design, ladies and gentlemen.

00:50:02.000 You ought to go to, uh, Minnesota.

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00:50:05.000 Paul.

00:50:06.000 Uh, I've been there several, what, three or four times to visit the network.

00:50:09.000 I have never seen... I've never seen a non-Somali cab driver.

00:50:16.000 And I asked some of the people there at the airport about it, and they said, well, they've got like their own union, and they basically all work together, and that's who the government issues permits to, because we want to help this immigrant community.

00:50:27.000 Help them, yes, where only they are allowed to be cab drivers.

00:50:32.000 Literally.

00:50:33.000 I mean, you jump through a bunch of hoops, they make it economically hard for a white guy or a black guy who isn't Somali to do it.

00:50:41.000 And you go to the government agencies there, it's Somalis.

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00:54:32.000 Karl Rove, And what's happening there with his sellout of the CIA and Valerie Plame.

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00:54:40.000 Also the London bombing.

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00:55:04.000 I want to first though get into the latest developments, the newest information on the London bombings.

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00:59:14.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now into our number two of this worldwide transmission against tyranny.

00:59:30.000 Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central, back from 9 to Midnight, Greg Pallast of the BBC and London Guardian will be Joining us to talk about something we've been overlooking, Karl Rove and the Valerie Claim CIA sellout situation.

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01:00:19.000 Let's go ahead and go to Jenna in California.

01:00:23.000 Jenna, thanks for holding.

01:00:25.000 Hey Alex, how are you today?

01:00:26.000 Good.

01:00:27.000 I'm calling regarding, are you familiar with the producer from the New York radio station that put out a song mocking the tsunami victims?

01:00:38.000 Yes, I heard about that.

01:00:40.000 Okay, his name was Rick Delgado, and he's been fired twice.

01:00:43.000 He's also the same person that was in trouble.

01:00:46.000 He aired a couple having sex in St.

01:00:49.000 Patrick's Cathedral.

01:00:50.000 The same person? 1.00

01:00:52.000 Just sounds like an idiot. 1.00

01:00:54.000 Yeah, I've heard of the person. 0.99

01:00:55.000 Okay, well he's been fired twice, and you'd think his job in radio would be over, but apparently he's come to the Bay Area, San Francisco, and he is now working in radio again.

01:01:07.000 Uh, for a radio station, Wild 94.9. 0.99

01:01:10.000 And I'm really concerned that he is going to do what he always does, be an idiot and cause trouble in my hometown. 1.00

01:01:17.000 Let me tell you, I gotta be honest with you, Jen. 1.00

01:01:19.000 Okay.

01:01:21.000 They're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines, they're carrying out terror attacks and blaming it on their enemies.

01:01:27.000 They are genetically engineering the entire biosphere and causing major breakdowns in the fabric of the food chain.

01:01:36.000 Our entire civilization and species is in jeopardy.

01:01:40.000 And, I mean, this guy sounds like one more pimple on the rotten back of the New World Order.

01:01:45.000 You know, the gibbering creature making fun of Death Tsunami victims.

01:01:50.000 I mean, I personally really don't care.

01:01:52.000 I mean, this is what cockroaches do for publicity stunts. 1.00

01:01:56.000 There are a thousand cockroaches in the media that attack me on a daily basis, thinking they'll get publicity out of it.

01:02:02.000 I never respond, so I don't like to give this cockroach any attention.

01:02:07.000 Frankly, you're giving him what he wants right now.

01:02:10.000 Okay, so you think I should just drop it?

01:02:13.000 Well, no.

01:02:13.000 I mean, when you talk about him and when you give it attention, it gives him what he wants.

01:02:19.000 See, you think you're hurting him, but by attacking him, you only give him... I mean, sometimes you've got to.

01:02:26.000 And Paul Harvey says black slavery was good, smallpox blankets killing Native Americans is good, let's nuke the Middle East. 1.00

01:02:33.000 I mean, that is so diabolical and sick, it's got to be talked about. 0.96

01:02:37.000 Plus, he's such an icon, we're not helping him or hurting him.

01:02:40.000 You know, we're just showing people the atmosphere.

01:02:42.000 But some little rat creature... rat creatures just don't even deserve a mention. 0.97

01:02:49.000 Okay, it just makes me so upset at what he's done.

01:02:52.000 Yeah, but they're about to pass the Codex Alimentarius and start taking your vitamins in the next two years if they do this.

01:02:58.000 The border's wide open, dear.

01:03:01.000 Okay, Alex, I think I know what to do now.

01:03:04.000 You made a lot of sense.

01:03:06.000 Look, are there shows on that station you support?

01:03:08.000 You're obviously listening to it.

01:03:12.000 No, I'm not.

01:03:13.000 Actually, I stopped listening to it.

01:03:14.000 Okay, well what you need to do is you need to find shows you support.

01:03:17.000 Okay.

01:03:18.000 Support him and tell people about the show.

01:03:21.000 You need to just ignore the excrement and sweep it out of the way.

01:03:29.000 Don't focus on the dog poo and focus on the pearls.

01:03:34.000 Get involved in what matters.

01:03:37.000 I've heard of that person. 1.00

01:03:38.000 Sounds like a real scumbag. 1.00

01:03:40.000 Just some cynical Junior Hyman Tell the person. 1.00

01:03:44.000 I just want him off the air.

01:03:45.000 I don't want anyone else to have to get subjected to the... Well, I think he should be on the air.

01:03:49.000 It's his free speech. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Let the scumbag be on the air. 0.99

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01:07:00.000 All right, we got Greg Palast, BBC News at Night reporter.

01:07:07.000 Coming on to talk about the latest Karl Rove developments, as well as what's happening with the London bombings.

01:07:13.000 We've got John Rappaport coming on.

01:07:16.000 Talk about this headline, London Evening Standard.

01:07:19.000 EU bans sale of vitamins.

01:07:21.000 Hey, can't say it any simpler than that.

01:07:23.000 I thought that was an urban legend.

01:07:25.000 The government said, of course they're paying tens of millions of dollars.

01:07:29.000 I'll never forget a great front line piece I saw.

01:07:33.000 Most front line shows that I've seen are propaganda, but this one was good.

01:07:38.000 And they admitted that MTV, you know, Sumner Redstone, Viacom, all these big companies, the government, this is like five, six years ago before this became mainstream knowledge.

01:07:47.000 That's when I coined the term propaganda placement, was from watching that show.

01:07:52.000 Because it's not product placement, they were calling it that, but saying the government was product placing its agenda.

01:07:57.000 Well, the government's agenda should be our agenda.

01:08:00.000 No, it's propaganda placement.

01:08:03.000 And I noticed that in the report they were admitting That the government and other private institutions were out there with fake message boards and fake news websites and trying to create an artificial grassroots buzz.

01:08:23.000 And folks, they've done that with Codex Alimentarius.

01:08:28.000 They're always out there.

01:08:29.000 Oh, there's not really a Codex Alimentarius.

01:08:32.000 Oh, they're not really going to try to restrict and tax and ban different vitamins.

01:08:38.000 Oh, there's not really a police state.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, stuff's bad, but not that bad.

01:08:42.000 Go back to sleep.

01:08:44.000 Oh, they're not really getting rid of the borders.

01:08:47.000 Oh, there's not really a group called the CFR.

01:08:51.000 Oh, and it's normally, again, somebody posing as the cool rock band fan out there really working for the corporation promoting it for MTV.

01:09:03.000 Or it's a FBI, Quantico-trained agent, you know, running the alternative website that attacks patriots.

01:09:11.000 And, you know, that is the gatekeeper watching all the patriots for you.

01:09:16.000 And it's just so transparent.

01:09:18.000 I don't know how this is all so transparent to me.

01:09:21.000 But for other people, it's kind of a learning process for you.

01:09:25.000 I mean, you always wake up to it.

01:09:26.000 People always find out, you know, who's real and who's not.

01:09:30.000 But it just takes time.

01:09:32.000 But I guess I've got to remember, I've been doing this for 12 years, on air for almost 11, and I'm still learning more every day, but things are moving so fast now, we've got to accelerate the learning curve.

01:09:43.000 We don't have time to dawdle and spin our wheels.

01:09:52.000 The battle has been joined.

01:09:54.000 We've got a chance to turn this thing around.

01:09:57.000 But not if we dawdle and infight and spend our time, you know, perseverating on issues of little or no significance.

01:10:05.000 We've got to stay focused on all the big things that are happening.

01:10:09.000 I mean, this is important.

01:10:10.000 Five, ten years ago, if the people didn't want something, the government generally wouldn't do it or they'd try to sneak it through or implement it slowly.

01:10:19.000 Now, everybody's against the open borders, almost everybody.

01:10:23.000 Everybody's against CAFTA, but they just do it.

01:10:26.000 Everybody's against, I mean literally, we're talking 90 plus percent of Brits and people in the EU are against restricting vitamins, but they just do it.

01:10:34.000 The American people predominantly are against gun control.

01:10:38.000 In major polls, 98 percent of police are against gun control, but almost every police chief's for it. 0.98

01:10:44.000 You know, and out there pushing it.

01:10:47.000 And they're pushing gun control on you.

01:10:50.000 So, they really are moving right now for the whole shooting match.

01:10:55.000 You know, Katie barred the door, like I said yesterday. 1.00

01:10:58.000 They are at light warp speed right now.

01:11:02.000 And, uh... We've got to be aware of this.

01:11:08.000 I mean, our country is being dissolved.

01:11:11.000 Our country is being dismantled.

01:11:13.000 I mean, look at the hundreds of incentives they give illegal aliens to come here that citizens don't even get. 0.70

01:11:21.000 And then they're felons when they're here, and then the federal government gives them welfare.

01:11:27.000 It's all selectively enforced, but you as a citizen don't wipe your nose.

01:11:32.000 You've got a crooked toenail, you're going under the jail.

01:11:39.000 We can watch this social engineering going on right in front of our faces.

01:11:43.000 Can you imagine If Al Gore was in office trying to do all this, which no doubt he would be doing.

01:11:50.000 I mean, same agenda as Bush, just different rhetoric.

01:11:52.000 But he never would have gotten away with one-tenth, not even one-hundredth of this, because conservatives would recognize it.

01:12:02.000 You imagine if Al Gore tried to make the Attorney General, which I guess Clinton did do, anti-gun, pro-abortion?

01:12:09.000 We'd call him a socialist liberal, like we did Butch Reno.

01:12:13.000 Alberto does it?

01:12:14.000 Man, these so-called conservatives will argue with you and tell you it does not exist. 1.00

01:12:19.000 That you're a liar! 0.96

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01:12:34.000 But sir, but a lot of the CIA... Ah, shut up, Comey!

01:12:39.000 But sir, Republican governors everywhere are moving against guns and suing gun manufacturers.

01:12:43.000 We're about to lose the gun industry right now.

01:12:44.000 It's never been worse. 1.00

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01:12:53.000 Really, I'm actually against corporate welfare and I'm for free market. 1.00

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01:12:59.000 I love George W. He's a rock, rev, conservative. 1.00

01:13:03.000 Alright, I'm digressing.

01:13:04.000 I've got loaded phones and a bunch of guests coming up.

01:13:06.000 Let me just read Paul Watson and, of course, my analysis by Paul Watson and Alex Jones.

01:13:13.000 London Underground Exercises and the Magically Exploding Terrorist.

01:13:17.000 Important questions.

01:13:19.000 Since we posted our original article about the exercises being conducted on the London Underground, which targeted the exact same spots as the bombings that happened on the morning of Thursday, the 7th of July, a firestorm of interest on the subject has swept the internet.

01:13:34.000 Important questions need to be asked of both Peter Power and visor consultants, the agencies who are running the drill.

01:13:42.000 In both the ITN-TV interview and the BBC Radio interview, Peter Power makes it clear that the team of crisis managers who were overseeing the drill quickly switched from exercise planning to real-time management of the actual bombing itself.

01:14:00.000 Quote, we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real, stated Power in his TV interview.

01:14:08.000 The company's advisor, ...was running the exercise for is not named by power.

01:14:13.000 If Vizor switched to real-time management of the bombings, who else could the company be but London Underground or one of their affiliates?

01:14:23.000 If this were a strategy session for a completely unaffiliated company, the London Underground, the meeting would have been cancelled and the participants would have gone home as soon as they were aware of the fact that a real attack was taking place.

01:14:35.000 Only the exercises being conducted for the London Underground, or a group responsible for part of the command structure in the aftermath of the attack, would real-time crisis management of the event take place.

01:14:46.000 So why does Power make mention of the company being close to a property owned by Jewish businessmen?

01:14:53.000 He then makes reference to American banks, and the exercise was being coordinated on behalf of a bank, then why was there a need for visor consultants to actively manage the bombings after that had taken place, and what were they managing precisely?

01:15:09.000 Visor Consultants is a PR firm, Were they responsible for telling the media that the bombings were in fact a simple power surge for over an hour?

01:15:19.000 An explanation that was obviously ridiculous but gave the government time to manage the release of information about the attack?

01:15:26.000 That's what Vizor was managing, was how to handle that.

01:15:29.000 Power was hired by the government before, and he has always been used to release information about terrorist incidents in London.

01:15:36.000 Two previous examples of this are in the March 2001 BBC Television Center bombing, and the September 2000 rocket attack on the MI6 building.

01:15:46.000 Was power again used by the government as a conduit for information that would support their official version of events?

01:15:53.000 Today we are told that bombers were all killed in an act of carrying out the bombing, just like the Madrid bombers supposedly blew themselves up during a raid.

01:16:04.000 How very convenient that all the suspected patsies should have been blown up in their own attacks even though the last word that the attacks were not suicide bombings but synchronized time bombings.

01:16:16.000 This is pure media manipulation sleight of hand.

01:16:20.000 It's designed to distract from the revelation that exercises that precisely mirror the bombings were happening in the tube as the bombings were going off around London.

01:16:31.000 It's time to Prick!

01:16:35.000 It is the same trick used in Madrid.

01:16:38.000 First, the government tried to blame ETA, and when that wouldn't stick, it turned to the old standby of Islamic extremists. 0.94

01:16:48.000 When investigators tracked the Patsy's to an apartment in Lings, the so-called terrorists supposedly blew themselves up in a standoff, suspects died, case closed.

01:16:59.000 The government said they are trying to play the same tired hand on London.

01:17:05.000 The BBC is reporting that one of the bombers definitely blew himself up.

01:17:10.000 Which is it?

01:17:11.000 All four bombers or just one?

01:17:13.000 There is an attempt to muddy the water so people will switch off and just buy whatever the government tells them.

01:17:19.000 Even though the government story keeps contradicting itself.

01:17:23.000 The London Times reported the bombers who killed 191 people in Madrid last year also gathered at one place before separating to plant devices timed to explode simultaneously.

01:17:35.000 How could the Madrid bombers have carried out an attack from the grave?

01:17:39.000 Here is the report saying they blew themselves up.

01:17:42.000 How could they have bombed London if they were already dead?

01:17:46.000 When another city gets bombed and they get blamed again, who will point out that the same bombers have been killed twice over?

01:17:54.000 The Times report is a blatant shy-off to keep the Al-Qaeda drumbeat echoing in people's heads, even though the so-called claim of responsibility is a proven hoax.

01:18:04.000 Furthermore, the New Zealand Herald reported that two Reuters employees witnessed the unconfirmed shooting by police of two apartment suicide bombers outside the HSBC tower at Canary Wharf in London.

01:18:19.000 Excuse me, not apartment, apparent suicide bombers.

01:18:22.000 This took place at 10.30am, the so-called suicide bombers had already blown themselves up.

01:18:26.000 So let me get this straight, they blew themselves up after the Madrid bombing, they blew themselves up during the London bombing, and then they were shot by police after the London bombing, so they've been killed three times over, does this make sense to you?

01:18:39.000 Add to this that the CCT cameras on the number 30 bus were conveniently not working, and that we have the makings of an information lockout.

01:18:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:22:51.000 You know, I'm not a news reader, so I'm sorry for running through that article.

01:23:05.000 As quickly as I could, I didn't finish the end of it.

01:23:10.000 Add to this that the CCTV cameras of the number 30 bus were conveniently not working and we have the makings of an information lockout.

01:23:18.000 They can tell us whatever they want without any evidence to back it up.

01:23:22.000 Why should we believe them when they've been caught lying about terrorism and creating fake terror alerts dozens of times before?

01:23:31.000 Then we have links to those archives Documenting how the British government has been caught carrying out bombings.

01:23:39.000 They're the number one suspect.

01:23:41.000 They have the motive.

01:23:42.000 They've been caught doing it in the past.

01:23:47.000 Just the same M.O.

01:23:49.000 And then the drills on top of it.

01:23:51.000 This is amazing.

01:23:52.000 Let's go back to your calls.

01:23:54.000 John in Arkansas.

01:23:55.000 John, go ahead.

01:23:57.000 Okay, Alex.

01:23:58.000 I just wanted to tell you that CAFTA, as far as the Senate goes, both of our Senators here, Lincoln and Pryor, voted for it.

01:24:06.000 We just had a big Latin American Leaders' Convention in Little Rock, 10,000 out-of-towners came in.

01:24:15.000 And Clinton and Huckabee both gave speeches welcoming them and telling them that anything that we could do to help them with jobs or education, we were certainly willing to do so.

01:24:26.000 And they said that as far as they're concerned, Arkansas is the new U.S.

01:24:30.000 border because they've already conquered Texas.

01:24:35.000 You mean Clinton was saying this?

01:24:37.000 No, the LULAC leader said that as far as he was concerned that Arkansas was the new U.S.

01:24:44.000 border that they had LULAC, the Latin American leaders, had already conquered.

01:24:48.000 No, I know that, but I know they've said that in the past, but was this in the newspaper or were you there?

01:24:53.000 Oh, it was in the newspaper.

01:24:54.000 It was on all of our local news channels.

01:24:58.000 And were they saying, wonderful, they've conquered us, they're bragging, good!

01:25:03.000 Oh yeah, they're setting up job fairs for them, they're setting up educational scholarships.

01:25:09.000 And they actually have the quote, because I know that Metcha and Lulac and others have said this before, and they're openly going, thank you for inviting us in, we are taking over!

01:25:17.000 Oh yeah.

01:25:18.000 Specifically, did they say that we've conquered Texas?

01:25:21.000 They certainly did.

01:25:23.000 And the locals go, wonderful!

01:25:26.000 Well, except for a group that came from Russellville that was white revolutionaries that were trying to protest, but they wouldn't allow men hardly.

01:25:41.000 Amazing, thanks for the call.

01:25:42.000 What's the difference between the white revolutionaries and the Hispanic revolutionaries? 0.96

01:25:47.000 Well, you've got presidents addressing the Hispanic revolutionaries and saying how wonderful it is, and then the white revolutionaries are evil. 0.88

01:25:55.000 Oh, boy, that is just incredible.

01:25:59.000 And can't we all just get along?

01:26:01.000 Well, no, because when you read what these groups are saying, we're taking over.

01:26:06.000 Well, if you're fighting evil whitey, why is the government rolling the red carpet out to you? 1.00

01:26:10.000 Do me a favor, folks.

01:26:12.000 I knew about that meeting up there, but I didn't follow it.

01:26:14.000 Send me your local papers that have the quotes.

01:26:17.000 And I believe it.

01:26:18.000 I mean, I've seen somewhere almost identical quotes before.

01:26:22.000 You know, it's the last gasp of white America. 0.80

01:26:25.000 Go back to Europe. 0.87

01:26:26.000 And we're talking about, you know, leaders of, you know, political parties, leaders of people who become city council members and mayors.

01:26:34.000 Uh, say things like this and you're just like, well I thought we're all supposed to be friends.

01:26:39.000 That's right! 0.98

01:26:41.000 I'm going to say racist things and I'm going to push you around and then that's going to be loving and good and if you say you don't like it, you're a white supremacist.

01:26:50.000 But, but wait a minute, you're saying, you're saying everything for our race, for those outside the race, nothing.

01:26:56.000 That sounds like the Aryan Nations. 0.92

01:26:58.000 Well, the Aryan Nations is bad. 1.00

01:27:01.000 But Mecha is good!

01:27:03.000 Look at your Attorney General, Mecha!

01:27:05.000 Lottery con guilda!

01:27:08.000 I mean, it's so sick!

01:27:11.000 It's so... But again, most Hispanics aren't involved in this.

01:27:15.000 It's... The big banks in New York want to break this country up.

01:27:19.000 And so they're encouraging this. 0.95

01:27:21.000 They're trying to make these racist Hispanic leaders become even bigger leaders.

01:27:26.000 And it's all about driving wages down and de-industrializing this country. 0.92

01:27:30.000 And it's going to be bad for everybody, including the illegals. 1.00

01:27:34.000 Let's go ahead and take another call here.

01:27:39.000 Let's talk to Mark in Georgia.

01:27:41.000 Go ahead, Mark.

01:27:42.000 Hey, first time caller.

01:27:44.000 I just wanted to add to this.

01:27:47.000 My sister was at a cocktail party in West Palm Beach, and she was kind of fuming, and this lady came over and grabbed her by the elbow and said, Well, don't worry about it, darling. 0.93

01:27:59.000 She says they won't get to us.

01:28:04.000 The full effect of bringing the illegal aliens into the Americas is to bleed down the poor. 1.00

01:28:12.000 And my sister said, what do you mean by that? 0.99

01:28:15.000 And they said, well, the poor blacks and the other poor Hispanics that are already here, they'll just, like, marry into them. 1.00

01:28:25.000 And it's like a takeover, if you can imagine. 0.98

01:28:31.000 Oh no, and of course, this was a white lady saying this. 0.99

01:28:34.000 Well, she's pretty rich. 1.00

01:28:36.000 Of course, oh no, it's all their plan.

01:28:38.000 Listen, I've heard it too.

01:28:39.000 Stay there, I'll let you finish up.

01:28:41.000 I've heard it too.

01:28:44.000 We're on the march.

01:28:45.000 The Empire's on the run.

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01:32:01.000 Alright, here's the headline, EU Bans Sale of Vitamins, London Evening Standard.

01:32:07.000 We've got John Rappaport, a health reporter and researcher coming on in the third hour.

01:32:13.000 And we have another guest in the middle of the next hour coming on to talk about that as well.

01:32:17.000 One of the local consumer groups here in the U.S.

01:32:20.000 that's fighting against this.

01:32:22.000 CAFTA has regulatory language to merge with the EU rules on this, and that's in the subsections.

01:32:30.000 But the neocons and others that are controlled by Big Pharma don't want you to know that.

01:32:35.000 So that's coming up.

01:32:36.000 In the next 25 minutes or so, we're going to be honored to be joined by... Oh, he writes for a bunch of big magazines and newspapers, like the London Guardian, Observer, BBC Newsnight Reporter, best-selling author, Greg Powell to talk about the London bombing and the latest developments with...

01:32:52.000 Karl Rove, Lord Rove, and others.

01:32:54.000 But real fast, Mark and Georgia, you were saying that your sister was at this big elitist cocktail party and this, you know, old rich white lady's going, the illegal aliens are part of the plan to get control of the population and drive down the wages.

01:33:10.000 Sir, the big corporate white papers on this say this.

01:33:16.000 I mean, it is about Driving down the wages, destroying the middle class.

01:33:21.000 Go ahead and finish your comment.

01:33:23.000 Well, I'm a special ops soldier, and I just want to say how courageous you are, first-time listener.

01:33:30.000 And I was wondering, is there a real good station number to listen to to get you?

01:33:35.000 Because I barely get you.

01:33:37.000 How are you listening to me?

01:33:39.000 Well, I was kind of shortwave, and that's not doing too well.

01:33:43.000 It's real bad because of the sunspots.

01:33:45.000 I think this show has like one affiliate in Georgia, and that should be listed on the web at GCNlive.com.

01:33:52.000 I know some of our other shows have more affiliates in Georgia.

01:33:56.000 You can also listen over the internet, but finish up what you were saying about your, I mean real fast, about what your sister heard at this cocktail party.

01:34:03.000 That it would be destroying all the bloodlines of the poor, because they'd be coming over here and they'd like You know, and I see it in the town that I live in, the mountain town I live, there's Nicaraguan Indians and Mexican Indians hiding up here, and the first thing they do is they go after the white women, and they get them pregnant. 0.92

01:34:25.000 And they're poor Appalachian white people. 0.90

01:34:28.000 Well, I appreciate your call, but it's... Right there, destroying it.

01:34:31.000 I appreciate your call, but let me just say this.

01:34:34.000 To me, it isn't a racial issue.

01:34:36.000 Whether it's black communities that are being decimated by illegal immigration, Or whether it's the existing Hispanic communities or whether it is poor white Appalachian communities.

01:34:46.000 You're right about that in this respect.

01:34:48.000 We've read the statistics, the numbers on this.

01:34:50.000 These communities, you know, these 10 communities that are hundreds of years old are on subsistence level and are barely surviving.

01:34:57.000 Okay, and then when you do bring in people that will work for even less, these societies are falling apart.

01:35:05.000 So it's hurting everybody.

01:35:06.000 Alright, I appreciate Greg Powles holding during the last two minutes of that.

01:35:11.000 And Greg, gregpowles.com, good to have you on with us, my friend.

01:35:16.000 Glad to be with you again, Alex.

01:35:19.000 Are you in England or New York right now?

01:35:21.000 Well, I'm in the New York area.

01:35:23.000 And, you know, I do report for those who want to watch my reports for BBC Television's Newsnight, because I guess they're a bit too dangerous to put on the American airwaves.

01:35:34.000 You can't see them.

01:35:36.000 BBC keeps them on their computers.

01:35:37.000 You can see them through my website at gregpalast.com.

01:35:45.000 I've lived in London, and I obviously report for the London outlet.

01:35:49.000 Before we go any further, and to Karl Rove and the London bombings, tell us about your new video and your book.

01:35:55.000 Oh yeah, well, we've got Bush Family Fortunes out there, which is a BBC television exposé on the whole Bush clan.

01:36:04.000 And that included the report that indeed our young George was gotten out of the war in Vietnam by a fix put in by his daddy.

01:36:15.000 And no matter what they say about what Rather did, The evidence is solid.

01:36:19.000 Well, that was a rogue operation when you plant this info to then discredit all the other stuff.

01:36:23.000 Well, you know, and then there's, and of course, you'll see in there the story of the 199i document, the fact that the Bush administration killed off the investigation of the Bin Laden family before September 11th.

01:36:38.000 You'll see the fix of the election of 2000 and how they're going to fix it in 2004.

01:36:43.000 We called it, they did it.

01:36:45.000 Um, this is the information, um, and you can get it on the website or, you know, at your usual video store, uh, Bush Family Fortune.

01:36:53.000 If you've seen Fahrenheit 911, this is the hard reporting that was underneath it.

01:36:57.000 And of course, uh... Are you being dive-bombed right now?

01:37:00.000 Yeah, it sounds like... Well, you know, it's weird.

01:37:02.000 We've got these military planes going over the place.

01:37:04.000 I'm not kidding you.

01:37:05.000 Like, 200 feet.

01:37:06.000 I can't believe that I'm out in some, uh, beach area that they, uh, that, you know, they're waiting, you know, for Al-Qaeda here, I guess.

01:37:13.000 Uh, you know.

01:37:14.000 You've got to keep the fear level up, you know?

01:37:17.000 Yeah, give us in a nutshell, Greg, and I know you're a BBC reporter so you can't stick your neck out too far when we talk during the break.

01:37:26.000 In a nutshell, what's going on with the London bombings?

01:37:28.000 Well, despite the fact that the Foreign Minister of Britain, Tony Blair's henchman, Jack Strauss, said that this has all the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda, This is not Al-Qaeda, this is Al-Qaqa.

01:37:43.000 It looks like, as I said a few days ago before it became official, that it's just some local kids who put together a low-level explosive with unsophisticated junk that they get off the internet.

01:38:02.000 But, you know, it can cause a lot of damage.

01:38:03.000 You get on a subway and you decide to... But you said it's definitely more fear.

01:38:09.000 What do you mean by that?

01:38:10.000 Well, what it is, it's the fear fix.

01:38:12.000 In fact, if you go to my website, you'll see a story of how Bush and Blair now have their Al-Qaeda fix. 0.53

01:38:19.000 They're Al-Qaeda addicts. 0.54

01:38:20.000 Because, look, these guys have sold us and everything from taking off our shoes at the airport, fingerprinting our kids going to school, Telling us about a war in Iraq, telling us about eliminating Social Security, and let's not notice the deficit because we're all at war.

01:38:35.000 Sounds like transponders going in the cars.

01:38:38.000 Right, so this is all for your protection.

01:38:42.000 Because there's this mastermind, horrible, secret army out there to get us called Al-Qaeda.

01:38:48.000 Now look, 50 people died in London.

01:38:52.000 That's no joke.

01:38:53.000 It's horrible.

01:38:54.000 But Al-Qaeda, it wasn't.

01:38:56.000 These guys had about as much to do with Al-Qaeda as a Beatles tribute band had to do with the Fab Four.

01:39:02.000 So you're saying they're copycats?

01:39:04.000 They're just kids who got whipped up. 0.53

01:39:06.000 There's these maniac mullahs, a couple of them, in Leeds and in London, who are calling for jihad against the West. 1.00

01:39:16.000 They live in nice London suburbs during the week and then they preach jihad on the weekends.

01:39:21.000 And they get a couple of young kids... Well, Greg, let me just stop you right there, because I want to get into Rome here in a second, but we have the BBC reports where the number three guy in Al-Qaeda is at an MI6 safe house for a year.

01:39:33.000 We get reports about, you know, the same thing with the British going back decades funding Muslim extremism.

01:39:41.000 We have all these, you know, this MI5 agent, David Shaler, going public about how they gave him a couple hundred thousand dollars, Al-Qaeda, to try to kill Gaddafi.

01:39:49.000 We have all this going on, Meanwhile, we have Peter Power running a drill of the exact same things being bombed at the exact same times.

01:39:58.000 That is very bizarre.

01:40:00.000 I mean, so I'm not even so sure that their official story of these four kids bombing the trains and the bus... I don't even believe that, Greg.

01:40:10.000 Well, I think it could be.

01:40:11.000 I mean, you do have these maniac mullahs preaching this hatred stuff, and this was not, like I say, this was not sophisticated stuff at all. 0.98

01:40:19.000 What I'm concerned about is not even who did it at this point, except who didn't do it.

01:40:24.000 We know it wasn't Al-Qaeda.

01:40:25.000 We know it wasn't some big, giant terrorist network out to get us, but they need to be pumping that fear factor up so they can, you know, let's put it this way.

01:40:35.000 I just did a story for BBC television.

01:40:38.000 Um, and spoke to the guys that were advising George Bush on what to do with Iraq's oil before we invaded.

01:40:45.000 I mean, we already had the plans laid out for what to do with their oil.

01:40:49.000 And I asked him, I said, and I asked one of these experts, a guy named Bob Ebel, as a matter of fact, is his name, he works at Henry Kissinger, and he said, look, and I said, what about Wolfowitz saying that the war wouldn't cost us a penny, that Iraqis would pay for it? 0.58

01:41:03.000 And he said, That was just part of the sales pitch.

01:41:06.000 Well, what about PNAC saying we need a Pearl Harbor event?

01:41:13.000 Yeah, well, you know, see, these guys are master, they're vulture opportunists. 0.52

01:41:18.000 They'll take any event.

01:41:19.000 Let's face it, no matter how horrible September 11th was, it was just, you know, that we haven't been hit since then.

01:41:26.000 And it's not because George Bush hasn't taken off our shoes in the airport or because we have cocaine.

01:41:32.000 Bush says it's because we're in Iraq.

01:41:34.000 Right.

01:41:35.000 And you know, I mean, uh, what's happening here is that they are pumping up this fear factor to sell you, to keep you distracted.

01:41:42.000 State of war.

01:41:43.000 You can't have a war president unless you have a war. 0.64

01:41:46.000 And as Bush himself said, you know, war presidents, uh, you know, are the people that have power and make history.

01:41:51.000 And so we need the war. 0.76

01:41:53.000 Even if there's no enemy out there, you know, yeah, there's, there's bad, evil people.

01:41:57.000 There's people with bombs and they've all, we've always had them.

01:41:59.000 We had them before September 11th and since September 11th.

01:42:03.000 Uh, but, We don't have.

01:42:06.000 An international secret army that's capable of attacking us on a mass basis.

01:42:12.000 It just ain't happening.

01:42:13.000 Well, I mean, even if you take that view, which I don't completely agree with, Greg, even if you take that view, they're acting like Al-Qaeda is bigger than the Soviet Union.

01:42:22.000 Well, that's the whole thing.

01:42:22.000 Yeah, I know.

01:42:25.000 We got away from the idea that we had to remake America to fight the evil Soviets.

01:42:29.000 It would turn out to be a paper tiger.

01:42:32.000 There was nothing there.

01:42:32.000 They blew away like bad smoke.

01:42:36.000 And again, but this time against a few maniacs.

01:42:43.000 The big problem we have, which they still do not want to discuss, is the fact that the Bush administration didn't go after the Bin Laden family before September 11th because these are their oil buddies. 0.95

01:42:56.000 These are their buck buddies that have been funding the Bush family operations for Many years.

01:43:01.000 Well, there I agree with you, Greg, because we... I don't know if you know about this, but Paul Harvey came out two weeks ago and said, black slavery was good, giving smallpox blankets to Indians was good, we need to go ahead and start nuking the Middle East and Saudi Arabia because they're terrorists, and I went, well, Paul Harvey, George Bush's James Baker, defended Saudi Arabia against the victims of 9-11. 0.83

01:43:23.000 That's right, and let's not, you know, One of the things that we found in the BBC report that I did, the television report I just did, is that, which you can see on greggpalast.com.

01:43:37.000 BBC keeps them up so you can view the things that are too dangerous for US TV.

01:43:43.000 What you'll see is that there was a program to maintain high oil prices.

01:43:52.000 And this was, to some extent, in coordination at the behest of Saudi Arabia.

01:43:57.000 In other words, part of the idea with Iraq was not to grab Iraq's oil, but to control it. 0.85

01:44:03.000 For those people who think we screwed up and, gee, we didn't get the oil so oil prices have gone through the roof, you've got it wrong.

01:44:09.000 It's moving exactly to plan.

01:44:11.000 The plan was to control Iraq's oil so that it wouldn't flood the market and bring down oil prices.

01:44:16.000 Well, exactly, and this is their own documents, and for those that don't understand this, It's about creating artificial scarcity.

01:44:25.000 It's like De Beers.

01:44:26.000 They have a monopoly, the Oppenheimers do, of diamonds.

01:44:31.000 Diamonds are actually semi-precious, but by having a monopoly worldwide, they have to control those regions so those diamonds don't get out.

01:44:40.000 And so by not having the oil flow out of Iraq, which Saddam was You know, under sanctions, he could only sell a certain amount.

01:44:46.000 He was beginning to break the sanctions, ship it to Iran, ship it to Jordan, ship it to Turkey.

01:44:54.000 They weren't going to put up with that, and so now the oil companies are all registering record profits, and the only other thing that has its stocks up right now are defense stocks.

01:45:03.000 So the neocons get on radio and go, see?

01:45:06.000 There's no oil flowing out of Iraq, and it wasn't about oil.

01:45:09.000 Yes, it was about creating artificial scarcity.

01:45:11.000 That's right, it was about controlling the oil.

01:45:14.000 In fact, Bush's oil advisor said to me, well, the invasion of Iraq wasn't about oil.

01:45:19.000 He said, but the day after the invasion, it was all about oil.

01:45:23.000 This is Bush's own guy.

01:45:25.000 The thing is, what happened was that there were complaints.

01:45:28.000 Originally, the neocons had wanted oil to flow out of Iraq.

01:45:32.000 And then the big boys, the James Baker Institute, Chevron Oil, and ExxonMobil, these companies literally Marched in and redrew the plans for Iraq in such a way that OPEC and the... would not be busted.

01:45:51.000 That's how it always is.

01:45:52.000 The old companies are using the, quote, crazies in the Pentagon as their front men.

01:45:56.000 They can later discard them, but the agenda then moves forward.

01:46:00.000 We've had a sacrificial lamb.

01:46:01.000 Now let's move, in the few minutes we've got left here, Greg, into Karl Rove.

01:46:07.000 I mean, he's caught red-handed selling out Valerie Plame with his little minion over there, Novak.

01:46:15.000 This is now public.

01:46:16.000 Is he going to go down?

01:46:17.000 Is he going to get in trouble?

01:46:19.000 No.

01:46:21.000 No, in fact, already the machinery started with the Wall Street Journal saying he ought to get a medal.

01:46:25.000 Now, wait a minute.

01:46:26.000 Can you imagine if some guy in the Clinton administration or the Carter administration had given out the name of a CIA agent, which could, you know, hey, listen, in this world, you give out names of CIA agents, they could get blown away.

01:46:37.000 Well, not just an agent.

01:46:38.000 She was a spy chief. 0.92

01:46:39.000 She had a bunch of people under her. 1.00

01:46:41.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:46:41.000 And so what happened was that Uh, you know, this is all about putting out a hit on a truth teller, a guy named Joe Wilson, the agent's husband, who is saying this is a cockamamie story about the, you know, about Saddam and his nuclear weapons.

01:46:55.000 Saddam was an evil, was an evil man, but he didn't have nukes, okay? 0.92

01:46:59.000 I mean, and which is why we went in there. 0.94

01:47:00.000 Let's remember why we supposedly went into this.

01:47:03.000 Oh, Rumsfeld says that's an urban legend.

01:47:05.000 He never said that.

01:47:06.000 Yeah, now, so yeah, right.

01:47:08.000 Uh, and I've got the quotes, too.

01:47:10.000 But the other thing is about Karl Rove.

01:47:12.000 What I'm very concerned with is that the New York Times, Judy Miller of the New York Times, who is doing Time right now, I feel sorry for her and you know that she's going to spend four months in the pokey in the summer. 0.88

01:47:27.000 Okay, now is she doing a great moral act of protecting a source?

01:47:31.000 I'm sorry.

01:47:32.000 I'm an investigative reporter.

01:47:33.000 Karl Rove is not a source.

01:47:35.000 I use sources.

01:47:36.000 Sources are people on the inside who at great personal risk It's a whistleblower!

01:47:42.000 give you the true information to overturn the official lie.

01:47:47.000 It's a whistleblower.

01:47:48.000 It's not somebody using the media.

01:47:50.000 Now, Karl Marx is not a whistleblower.

01:47:52.000 He's a disinformation propagandist.

01:47:54.000 And protecting him, he's obviously, or people around him, or people within the administration, are obviously the so-called sources.

01:48:03.000 Now, Miller, by the way, did not, for the New York Times, did not write the story, and she gets no points from me for that, and I'll tell you why.

01:48:10.000 What she should have done is run a story that said, today I got a call from Karl Rove, or one of his munchkins, who gave me the name of a CIA agent, which is a crime, simply To smear and endanger a real whistleblower.

01:48:26.000 She should have reported that. 0.58

01:48:28.000 That's not a source.

01:48:29.000 When someone comes at you...

01:48:31.000 With a dirty trick like that, that is a story.

01:48:34.000 It should have been reported and the name should have been outed.

01:48:36.000 There is no source here to protect.

01:48:39.000 In fact, she's also the one.

01:48:41.000 Judy Miller of the New York Times is the one who ran the crucial story.

01:48:45.000 The aluminum tubes.

01:48:46.000 Yeah, the aluminum tubes.

01:48:49.000 She's definitely on an intelligence agency payroll.

01:48:54.000 Well, being on the New York Times payroll is kind of...

01:48:56.000 It's close to it, because this is what I call the axis of evil.

01:49:02.000 What they want is access to the split.

01:49:04.000 And it poses as liberal, but it is a maven of disinfo.

01:49:08.000 Well, you know, how liberal could you be if what you're doing is you're providing the backup for this complete fantasy idea that Saddam was building a nuclear weapon?

01:49:21.000 I mean, the only other person who believed he was building a nuclear weapon was Saddam, but of course he was insane and didn't know what the hell was going on.

01:49:26.000 But they found the nuclear weapon under a rose bush.

01:49:29.000 Exactly.

01:49:31.000 So, what's happened is that Miller is covering up not only for his so-called source, who's not a source, meaning Mr. Rhodes, and she's covering up, she should also have told us who it was that gave her this complete cockamamie story about the nukes.

01:49:46.000 That led to a false story.

01:49:47.000 No doubt who did that either.

01:49:48.000 A source who gives you false information is not a source.

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01:53:05.000 Going back to Greg Palas, BBC Newsnight reporter, also, of course, syndicated columnist, journalist, best-selling author, documentary maker, gregpalas.com.

01:53:16.000 Greg, just in closing here, we always have better radio off-air than we have on-air.

01:53:20.000 We had a great discussion in the last three-minute break, but kind of repeat what you were talking about during the break, folks.

01:53:26.000 Well, what I was saying is that Blair and Bush are wonderful vulture opportunists.

01:53:33.000 You get four kids who blow up here and take a lot of people with them on the subway.

01:53:38.000 They are all ready with their entire package to eliminate our civil liberties.

01:53:43.000 In Britain, Blair has already announced that because of these bombings, okay, these kids, whatever, he's already moving up his entire package of counter-terrorism proposals.

01:53:56.000 And they never did this!

01:53:57.000 They never did this when the IRA killed even more people!

01:54:00.000 And now, They've got all kinds of... They're going to take away what little shreds of civil liberties are left in Britain.

01:54:00.000 Right.

01:54:08.000 And none of these new rules.

01:54:11.000 None of them.

01:54:11.000 Which allow complete surveillance.

01:54:13.000 You're not allowed to have encrypted email.

01:54:15.000 Nothing.

01:54:16.000 None of this would have saved anyone's life last week.

01:54:19.000 None of it.

01:54:20.000 But it takes away our liberties.

01:54:21.000 And the game is to wipe out the anti-globalization movement.

01:54:25.000 Wipe out any type of dissent in Britain.

01:54:27.000 In America you're going to see the same thing.

01:54:29.000 George Bush is already standing there grinning.

01:54:32.000 Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda.

01:54:33.000 It's not Al-Qaeda.

01:54:34.000 No, he was actually smiling, going, you've got to expand the Patriot Act.

01:54:38.000 See, we're in Iraq for the right reason, because 55 people die.

01:54:43.000 And, Greg, I don't buy their official story.

01:54:45.000 They've lied so many times.

01:54:47.000 I mean, I agree with you.

01:54:48.000 It's not Al-Qaeda, because Al-Qaeda basically doesn't exist outside of some, you know, shadowy CIA-funded network.

01:54:55.000 You know, one of the problems with terrorists, and I ran in my book, by the way, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, you'll see also my write-up of the story we did for BBC in which we described how the U.S., and we got no contradiction from the agencies of this, but during the war in Afghanistan, the U.S.

01:55:13.000 brought over the guys who later created Al Qaeda for training in so-called counter-terrorism, which means terrorism.

01:55:20.000 And what happens is, when you create terrorists, They're like homing pigeons.

01:55:24.000 They come home to roost.

01:55:25.000 You can't teach these guys to be killers and not expect them to kill.

01:55:29.000 And they don't always do it.

01:55:32.000 And then the military industrial complex gets billions in sales every week and gets to take over our society.

01:55:37.000 Oh, they're so sad they've come home to roost.

01:55:40.000 Well, I'll tell you something.

01:55:41.000 Let me give you one wonderful final, Alex.

01:55:45.000 One of the big winners in the war on terror is a company called Lockheed Martin, who had on its board of directors Lynn Cheney, the wife of Darth Cheney, our Vice President.

01:55:56.000 And Lockheed.

01:55:58.000 You know, people talk about Halliburton.

01:56:00.000 But you have to understand that under the guise of the War on Terror, we are ordering two dozen Virginia-class submarines.

01:56:07.000 These things are like seven-foot ball fields long.

01:56:11.000 And when I asked Lockheed what the heck these monster underwater starships have to do with the War on Terror, they said, well, we can use it to place commando marines on beaches.

01:56:24.000 And I said, with an underwater battleship, how do you even get it to the beach?

01:56:31.000 And they said, don't be silly, Mr. Powell, if we don't take the Virginia class up to the beach, We've reconfigured the torpedoes, and you put nine marines in the torpedoes and you shoot them off to the beach.

01:56:42.000 I'm not kidding.

01:56:43.000 If you go to my website, or get my... Well, I'm not a statistician or a military planner, but everybody knows you just have an old diesel sub pull up and release the boats and they run in.

01:56:53.000 Well, you know, let's put it this way.

01:56:56.000 The Israelis use canoes to get their command over the shore. 0.86

01:57:00.000 And, you know, each of these beasts These Virginia-class beasts, which are going to shoot nine Marines onto the shore in a torpedo, cost 2.4 billion dollars.

01:57:12.000 I'd like to be in that business.

01:57:13.000 So Cheney's making money off Halliburton, Lockheed, and it's admitted he sits up there in the VP office writing out the contracts.

01:57:23.000 Good job.

01:57:24.000 I'll take it.

01:57:25.000 Hey, I appreciate you coming on, Greg.

01:57:27.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

01:57:28.000 Take care.

01:57:29.000 I will come right back.

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01:58:09.000 EU bans sale of vitamins, as they say overseas.

01:58:14.000 They're scheduled to do it here in the next few months.

01:58:18.000 Well, by August 1st.

01:58:21.000 Unbelievable.

01:58:23.000 So, less than a month.

01:58:25.000 And we got John Rappaport, health investigator and writer, coming on with us here in just a few minutes.

01:58:30.000 He, incidentally, will be on Coast to Coast AM tonight talking about this.

01:58:33.000 More on the London bombing.

01:58:34.000 I haven't even scratched the surface of the new developments.

01:58:37.000 But right now, let's go back to your calls.

01:58:40.000 Melissa N. Tejas.

01:58:42.000 Go ahead, Melissa.

01:58:43.000 Hello, Alex.

01:58:44.000 Hi.

01:58:45.000 I am so glad you're bringing up the CAFTA and the Codex issues this afternoon.

01:58:50.000 From my information, the House is going to vote on that July 14th, which is tomorrow.

01:58:57.000 And I'm hoping your listeners will take your advice and become leaders.

01:59:02.000 Lost your phone, Melissa?

01:59:05.000 It was strange.

01:59:07.000 Are you there?

01:59:10.000 I don't know what it is lately.

01:59:11.000 It's like the calls.

01:59:12.000 The phones aren't working too well or something.

01:59:15.000 Melissa, if you can get back in, you can come back on.

01:59:18.000 You've been holding for a while and then that happened.

01:59:22.000 I'm sorry.

01:59:24.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:59:25.000 Reuben in Ohio.

01:59:26.000 Reuben, go ahead.

01:59:27.000 Hey, thanks, Alex.

01:59:28.000 You've got the best guests out there on your show.

01:59:31.000 I've got to tell you that.

01:59:32.000 I appreciate Greg's perspective that it might be just some radical kids and whatnot.

01:59:39.000 But it seems too lame, for lack of a better word.

01:59:43.000 Well, you've got to understand, I've had dinner with Greg Pallas several times in New York and in Austin, and he's a BBC Newsnight reporter.

01:59:51.000 He's doing what he can do in that position.

01:59:54.000 He's about the most radical person in mainstream media in the Western world. 1.00

01:59:58.000 He gets away with what he can, and Greg is a stupid. 1.00

02:00:03.000 Well, I appreciate that perspective. 1.00

02:00:06.000 But look, if you wanted to do real terrorism, wouldn't you do something at the Live Aid concert?

02:00:12.000 Wouldn't you do something the day that the Olympics were announced?

02:00:16.000 Not something on a few buses?

02:00:19.000 And you know, I got the New York Times in front of me.

02:00:21.000 They're all different times.

02:00:22.000 How can they come out four days later and say that they're simultaneous?

02:00:27.000 Well, then they said it was done, yeah, by triggered devices and cell phones, so we gotta monitor and take over all the cell phones.

02:00:33.000 And now, understand, all the government is saying is we think it was these four guys, but the headlines are they did it, then later, well, we don't know that, and then we all just supposedly accept it.

02:00:45.000 Look, the big smoking gun is the motive.

02:00:46.000 Number two, the British government's done this before.

02:00:48.000 That's admitted.

02:00:50.000 Absolutely.

02:00:50.000 Okay, they've carried out terror before.

02:00:52.000 That is admitted.

02:00:53.000 You understand, folks, their own publications, their own government admits it, but we're supposed to not put two and two together.

02:00:58.000 And then you've got the drills going on at the exact same times, exact same places, by the former top Scotland Yard guy, who's always, in the last 15 years, the spokesman on terror attacks for the government.

02:01:11.000 Alex, the last thing I'd like to say is, up here in Northeast Ohio, I know you've got a lot of listeners in Ohio, but there's an FM radio station out of Akron in the afternoon, and I've made a few strategic information calls to this guy, and it really started a wildfire of callers.

02:01:29.000 You know, he's a big Republican Bush supporter, former football player, and if I could just inspire people in Northeast Ohio to call this Akron radio host and mention Alex's name, And get the word out about 9-11.

02:01:42.000 There's already so many people battering down this Bob Golick.

02:01:46.000 A few more and I think we could really take a beach head here in the information war.

02:01:51.000 Well let me tell you, we've got, I don't know, I've got like three affiliates in Ohio now, in the big cities.

02:01:56.000 And I want to thank those three AM affiliates.

02:01:59.000 Big stations, great folks.

02:02:01.000 Instead of talking about this guy, I would be plugging those stations, promoting them, and I would be calling into his show, plugging those stations.

02:02:12.000 Yeah, W-C-E-R out of Canton, I know. 0.99

02:02:14.000 But I'd like to get you on this.

02:02:16.000 Exactly.

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02:07:53.000 John Rappaport, thank you for coming on with us, sir.

02:07:57.000 Yeah, thank you, Alex.

02:07:58.000 Out of the gates, just in a nutshell, tell us about yourself and your website.

02:08:02.000 Well, basically, the website is nomorefakenews.com.

02:08:08.000 I've been working as an investigative reporter for 20 years now and have written lots of articles and some books for newspapers, magazines in Europe, the United States.

02:08:21.000 You know, I know you've been covering the London bombing extensively.

02:08:28.000 Before we get into anything else, I just wanted to raise a point because I think some of your listeners may have contacts who can answer this.

02:08:36.000 You know, they are now saying that the supposed four kids who met in King's Cross Station about 8.30 in the morning then proceeded to go to separate trains and 20 minutes later Virtually.

02:08:57.000 All three underground bombs went off.

02:09:00.000 So what I've put on my website, NoMoreFakeNewsThisMorning, is an inquiry out to anybody who lives in London or knows anybody who lives there and is familiar with the underground system.

02:09:10.000 I've asked the same question.

02:09:11.000 Is it possible for them to debark on four trains at the same time and, uh, go ahead.

02:09:17.000 Yeah, three trains at the same time arrive at three different locations where the bombs go off.

02:09:24.000 And I have my doubts that that's even possible, but I'm open to whatever the truth is here.

02:09:30.000 Well, John, we're also getting reports that a bunch of the stations were shut down, and we know there was a drill with the guy who was the spokesman for Scotland Yard before, Peter Power.

02:09:40.000 We went back and looked at it on almost every big terror attack.

02:09:44.000 He's their special spokesman for like a decade or more, and he was running a drill simultaneously of the exact three trains being attacked at the exact same time.

02:09:54.000 He says, it's just a coincidence, John.

02:09:57.000 Right, and in fact, you know, I have an email from Peter Power.

02:10:01.000 Um, I emailed him and he sends back a, you know, a canned email to everybody who's inquiring.

02:10:09.000 We got the same thing.

02:10:10.000 Okay, so you know that he's, you know, now trying to soft pedal it.

02:10:13.000 Yeah, tell us, uh, you may have got something different.

02:10:16.000 I'd like you to send us your copy, please.

02:10:17.000 We'd like to post it.

02:10:18.000 Yeah.

02:10:19.000 Tell me what it says, John.

02:10:20.000 I'm just looking for it now.

02:10:21.000 Basically, What Power is saying is that, you know, this was only a very modest kind of exercise and it was mostly people sitting in a room and... We're getting the same spin from their other disinfo operatives out there on the web.

02:10:38.000 Yes.

02:10:40.000 I got it here.

02:10:41.000 That there have been such bomb drills in many different places in the underground over a long period of time.

02:10:51.000 Uh, he's saying, quote, uh, our exercise, uh, quickly became the real thing.

02:10:57.000 He admits that in the email, and the players that morning responded, blah, blah, blah, no more comments.

02:11:02.000 Well, why won't he then tell us who he was, who he was doing this drill for?

02:11:06.000 Yeah, exactly, who was he doing it for?

02:11:08.000 And as you state, you know, if he was doing it for somebody who was irrelevant, you know, like some private company, They would have taken him and his guys right off the scene as soon as the real thing happened, but they didn't.

02:11:25.000 Which means that, obviously, he was doing this drill for somebody important.

02:11:30.000 Well, he says he immediately shifted into managing the crisis.

02:11:34.000 Exactly.

02:11:35.000 Exactly.

02:11:36.000 So that means he was working for somebody important.

02:11:41.000 I've got a little bit different one.

02:11:43.000 Do me a favor.

02:11:44.000 Off-air, can I give you my secret email?

02:11:46.000 Will you send that to me?

02:11:48.000 Yes.

02:11:48.000 Actually, you know, right at No More Fake News, if you scroll down on the home page, you'll see the whole thing quoted.

02:11:54.000 Oh good, then we'll grab that and post it on Personal Planner.

02:11:57.000 Alright, thank you so much, John.

02:12:00.000 Please, in fact, I meant to get into the London bombing, but I know you're limited on time.

02:12:03.000 You're coming up on Coast to Coast tonight, gearing up for that, doing your research, but please continue with the London bombing.

02:12:09.000 I mean, this is just too convenient, the timing.

02:12:12.000 Yeah.

02:12:13.000 The other point that was amazing, and I believe you've also picked up on this, yesterday Sky News issued a long article in which Peter Clark, who is the anti-terrorism guy at Scotland Yard, makes the definite statement that they found these pristine IDs for three of the bombers

02:12:39.000 Very close to the seats on the train where the bombs exploded.

02:12:45.000 I mean, so what I wrote on NoMoreFakeNews was, I guess these IDs must have been like 16 feet thick of steel, and they had their names engraved in them, and that's how they survived the bombs.

02:12:57.000 But then this morning, something else occurred to me, and that was, You know, even if you admit, which is impossible, that these I.D.s could have survived the explosions... Well, it's more shades of 9-11 with two passports drifting down it and not burning.

02:13:13.000 Exactly, drifting down into the streets.

02:13:15.000 But even if you admitted that that was possible, which it isn't, anybody with a shred of sense would realize that if you were sitting on a train with your driver's license in your wallet, and the bomb went off under your own seat, That the force of the explosion itself would carry that ID to some remote point away from that seat.

02:13:37.000 So, the idea that they would have found such IDs in any kind of shape near the seat where the bomb went off, bombs went off underground, is so preposterous that it almost makes you wonder, you know, whether they're trying to look bad because Anybody with three or four active brain cells would be able to see through this right away.

02:13:57.000 Well, John, you bring up just incredible points, and we've been making similar points, but It's the same thing on 9-11.

02:14:05.000 It's not one passport, it's two, magically fluttered down and were found undamaged.

02:14:11.000 I mean, the chances of one doing this is almost impossible.

02:14:14.000 Two, it is impossible.

02:14:15.000 Yes.

02:14:16.000 Absolutely.

02:14:17.000 So it's the same template.

02:14:19.000 There's always a drill.

02:14:20.000 There's always passports or IDs found.

02:14:23.000 You know, when the Russian planes got blown up, they found perfect IDs. 0.97

02:14:26.000 Turned out those were fake IDs and the government had done it.

02:14:29.000 I mean, it never ends.

02:14:30.000 It never ends, Mr. Rappaport.

02:14:32.000 No, it doesn't. 0.94

02:14:33.000 And, you know, you have to realize that people, the public in general, has now been so dumbed down and has become so dumb that most people, you know, they just don't question this whatsoever. 0.88

02:14:50.000 I mean, it would be like saying to somebody, I want you to imagine that, you know, you take everything out of your wallet, you put it on the floor, And then you set your house on fire, and you pour gasoline around your ID, and you walk out.

02:15:04.000 Do you think your ID is going to survive?

02:15:07.000 And the person would say, well, I guess not, you know?

02:15:09.000 Okay, so what is different about what they're saying they've recovered from the pristine passports on 9-11, and the IDs in the underground in London?

02:15:19.000 Is there really anything different about that?

02:15:21.000 And the only answer they would be able to give you is, well, this is what the authorities report, so it must be true. 1.00

02:15:29.000 I mean, what else could they say?

02:15:31.000 I am continually boggled by the insanity and the preposterousness of these lying cover stories.

02:15:42.000 Well, also, John, we've got to go back here.

02:15:45.000 Because we look at motive.

02:15:46.000 The government has the motive.

02:15:47.000 Their approval ratings have gone up.

02:15:49.000 Now they're going to try to reauthorize and expand the Patriot Act.

02:15:51.000 Now they're going to get national ID cards in England.

02:15:53.000 Now they're going to set up an even greater police state.

02:15:55.000 You have London, which is a police state with four and a half million cameras in the city alone.

02:16:00.000 Checkpoints everywhere.

02:16:02.000 And then, with all of this going on, we forget that we have a huge archive on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:16:07.000 I know you've covered this too.

02:16:08.000 Mainstream British news reporting in the last four years that the British government has carried out bombings all over England and Ireland to blame it on their enemies.

02:16:16.000 The Russian government's been caught carrying out bombings.

02:16:19.000 We have Operation Gladio with the U.S. 0.96

02:16:21.000 government carrying out bombings to blame it on their enemies in the 70s and 80s.

02:16:24.000 Up until 1980.

02:16:26.000 We have official government plans like Northwoods, where the government explains why they want to carry out terror, and then we don't look at the government as the number one group with the motive.

02:16:36.000 We just ignore that and discount it, and then all the evidence points towards government involvement.

02:16:41.000 We're just supposed to poo-poo all this and buy their story of magically disappearing?

02:16:46.000 These guys are like Obi-Wan Kenobi.

02:16:47.000 When they die, they just disappear.

02:16:49.000 That's right.

02:16:50.000 Absolutely.

02:16:52.000 And as you've also pointed out, in the Madrid bombings, same thing happened.

02:16:57.000 And, you know, these guys had connections to the Spanish security services.

02:17:02.000 This was pointed out in a number of press reports.

02:17:05.000 BBC?

02:17:06.000 Yeah, and people exactly just, you know, dismiss it out of hand.

02:17:10.000 When you're on coast to coast tonight, are you going on about Codex or about this?

02:17:13.000 No, we're going to talk about Codex and all the implications of it, which are Extremely serious for people who are at all interested in their own health.

02:17:22.000 John, I've got to start getting you on regularly.

02:17:24.000 Your analysis is just spot on, and so few are.

02:17:27.000 I know you've got time for one more segment with us, so stay there.

02:17:31.000 Absolutely.

02:17:32.000 And it's a tragedy.

02:17:33.000 I want to get you back on soon.

02:17:33.000 You've got to leave us.

02:17:35.000 We'll be right back with John Rappaport and homerfakenews.com.

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02:21:56.000 John Rappaport's going to be on for the full hour tomorrow in the third hour to go more over the London bombing and Codex Alimentarius and this EU ruling.

02:22:06.000 We really look forward to that.

02:22:08.000 Be sure to check out his news site, nomorefakenews.com.

02:22:12.000 John, I see everybody waking up, and I'm not just putting a good face on this.

02:22:18.000 People really are.

02:22:19.000 Instantly, before I was even pointing the finger at the government, People were instantly, spontaneously, even pretty mainstream news sites, were saying this stinks to high heaven.

02:22:29.000 It seems like the government's terror paradigm is really starting to wear out.

02:22:33.000 People are really in their guts starting to figure out what's going on.

02:22:36.000 And then you've got stuff like Codex Alimentarius and people trying to deny what's happening there, but the documents are there.

02:22:43.000 We're really starting, I think, to win a lot of these fights.

02:22:45.000 Can you comment on London and what I just said and then get into Codex here in the last few minutes?

02:22:50.000 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

02:22:52.000 In fact, I wrote a piece on this the other day where it seems to me there's now an overwhelming urge, especially on the part of people who use the internet or listen to uh... you know important radio shows to wake up and shift their whole assumption which is in the absence of any evidence the first thing i'm going to believe is that the government did it.

02:23:16.000 Rather than believe that the government must be right in whatever they tell us you know equally if you had no evidence whatsoever in anything you'd say well you know my tendency would be to believe the government but in that that's all changing now More and more people are saying, if you didn't even give me any evidence, my first impulse would be to say, you know, I think the government is feeding its lies here, and they were really the ones behind this.

02:23:42.000 So, yes, it's definitely shifting.

02:23:45.000 And as far as Codex is concerned, they're biting off something here that they think they can make everybody digest, but they are wrong.

02:23:55.000 Because the natural health revolution, globally speaking, It's ferocious, and it's been going on for at least 50 years.

02:24:03.000 And what, 80 plus percent of Americans and people globally are into it?

02:24:06.000 I mean, five years ago you couldn't find organic food, now that's basically all you find at the stores here locally.

02:24:12.000 With our dollars, we're taking over!

02:24:14.000 That's right.

02:24:15.000 Absolutely.

02:24:16.000 And so, if they really try to lower the boom all at once, or even over time here on supplements, You know, you're going to have a revolution.

02:24:28.000 Well, John, they've been denying, denying, denying as we read the documents and now our credibility again has exploded because exactly what we said was going to happen, it's now happening.

02:24:37.000 It is now happening for sure.

02:24:40.000 There's also a court case that just came down in Europe on the European supplements directives or food directives.

02:24:46.000 Which were tied into by treaty controversial new European law which could outlaw thousands of vitamins and mineral supplements was upheld by a European court judiciary and then right above it London Evening Standard that's not John Rappaport or Alex Jones!

02:25:00.000 That's right and so this would if this went through and if they implemented it with you know real regulations But just to take England for one example, you would see the closing down of thousands and thousands and thousands of health food stores all at once.

02:25:14.000 They would be totally out of business.

02:25:17.000 And the court's ordering them to implement August 1st, so we're going to see some fireworks!

02:25:21.000 Yeah.

02:25:22.000 If they try to implement it, you see, my feeling, we'll see whether they really try to shut it all down.

02:25:29.000 Because they know, regardless of what they're saying and what laws and regulations they're passing, They understand that there's a whole lot of people out there that are ready to revolt completely and so this is going to be very interesting to see what happens if you know who's going to blink because the people that who you know say my health depends on my taking supplements which are millions of people they're not going away Well, I think you just crystallized it.

02:25:58.000 The New World Order on so many fronts has gotten to the point now that it's not just building the basement and building the foundation.

02:26:05.000 They're really getting to the finishing touches.

02:26:08.000 And now at crunch time, the resistance is exploding on a thousand fronts.

02:26:14.000 And now the harder they push, the more resistance they generate.

02:26:18.000 I think that now the battle is joining. 1.00

02:26:20.000 We're really going to kick their butt. 0.99

02:26:22.000 It wouldn't surprise me at all. 1.00

02:26:23.000 That's what I'm counting on.

02:26:25.000 And as you say, you know, the resistance formula there, it only works up to a certain point, but when it gets down to crunch time, a lot of people wake up and they say, what?

02:26:39.000 You're going to take away this supplement that I believe is keeping me alive?

02:26:44.000 What?

02:26:44.000 Are you kidding?

02:26:45.000 What?

02:26:45.000 The Supreme Court says I don't own my house?

02:26:48.000 Right.

02:26:49.000 I don't own my house, so let's take David Souter's house and build a hotel.

02:26:53.000 Now, if those people don't go away, And some other people get the idea, well let's do this to all the Supremes.

02:27:00.000 Let's go to all their houses and let's make hotels out of all their houses and let's not go away.

02:27:06.000 Let's keep on pushing this.

02:27:08.000 You're going to see some people showing up for work at the Supreme Court, you know, that look like Rehnquist.

02:27:14.000 I mean, these judges are not going to be happy.

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02:31:02.000 I know that we got callers like Melissa in Texas holding that want to talk about Codex Alimentarius.

02:31:07.000 We'll get to you here in just a few minutes.

02:31:09.000 We want to talk to our guest, Sue Croft, Director of Communications for Consumers for Health Choice.

02:31:15.000 The toll free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

02:31:19.000 Now, Big Pharma is owned by the Military Industrial Complex, is owned by the Central Banks.

02:31:26.000 They got their disinfo operatives all over the media saying it's an urban legend, it doesn't exist, we don't want to take your vitamins. 0.97

02:31:33.000 Folks, they tried to shut down the vitamin stores in 1993.

02:31:36.000 It was a gigantic revolt and a law got passed to stop that in 1994.

02:31:41.000 Now for 10 years we've had demonization of vitamins using a few horror stories when pharmacological drugs literally are just deadly and they cover that up.

02:31:52.000 And, uh, People don't want to believe this, but under treaties that we sign, we go under EU control.

02:31:58.000 And here it is, EU bans sale of vitamins.

02:32:01.000 London Evening Standard controversial new European laws, which could outlaw thousands of vitamin and mineral supplements, were upheld by the European Court Judiciary yesterday.

02:32:09.000 The European Court of Justice rejected British health food industry claims that the proposed food supplements directive coming into force on August 1st breaches EU rules.

02:32:19.000 And this could start as early as August 1st.

02:32:22.000 Going to Sue Croft with Consumers for Health Choice, one of the leading groups tracking and fighting things in the EU, and this is all in the capital legislation, which could pass the House any day now, to begin this slide towards total control.

02:32:37.000 Sue, good to have you on with us.

02:32:39.000 That's very kind of you.

02:32:40.000 I'm delighted to join you.

02:32:42.000 Well, thank you.

02:32:44.000 In a nutshell, tell us about your organization and what the truth is about this global move by Big Pharma to shut down their competition, natural minerals and vitamins and compounds.

02:32:57.000 Well, my organization, Consumers for Health Choice, we're a lobbying organization, but we only deal with natural health issues.

02:33:06.000 We firmly believe that everybody has the right to look after their own health in whatever way they choose, and they also have the right to use whatever products they like, providing those products are safe.

02:33:21.000 You mentioned what's happening over here.

02:33:25.000 We are fighting the food supplements directive, a directive imposed on us by the European Union.

02:33:32.000 Unfortunately, what a lot of people don't understand is that this directive is not about protecting the consumer.

02:33:40.000 It is about opening up the market for trade.

02:33:45.000 It's about harmonizing the market for trade.

02:33:48.000 Right across Europe, so that all member states sell the same product at the same dose.

02:33:54.000 And again, this is all interlocking.

02:33:57.000 Again, people don't know.

02:33:58.000 It's in the CAFTA legislation, too.

02:34:01.000 The way to control something is to say, oh, we're not going to take your vitamins.

02:34:05.000 It can just be one one-hundredth of the dose, and it can only be certified through this one big pharma company.

02:34:11.000 Again, it centralizes Well, I don't really know too much about your procedures in America, but let me tell you, in Europe, Europe operates under Napoleonic law.

02:34:32.000 And that means that nothing is permitted unless they specifically allow it.

02:34:39.000 And they are trying to dictate to us What vitamins we can use and in what doses we can take them.

02:34:46.000 And that's just shocking.

02:34:48.000 And that's happening via the treaty obligation through your EU agreement.

02:34:52.000 And what I'm getting to is quote through trade deals as well.

02:34:54.000 We're now merging that with agreements through CAFTA which also harmonizes agreements with Europe.

02:35:00.000 Yes indeed.

02:35:01.000 And I heard you mention before I joined you about the Codex Alimentarius.

02:35:08.000 And of course, Codex have been watching very closely for a number of years what Europe does, and we have long been afraid that if Britain loses its products by European regulations, then that will affect the Codex. and we have long been afraid that if Britain loses By European regulations, then that will affect the Codex.

02:35:27.000 It will therefore affect every nation that sells supplements across the globe.

02:35:31.000 For those who don't know... Not just the export markets, but their home markets too.

02:35:35.000 And we can't let that happen.

02:35:37.000 Well for those who don't know, tell people what the Codex Alimentarius is.

02:35:40.000 It's the global regulations of, in this case, dietary supplements.

02:35:46.000 And again, this is self-appointed through these treaty organizations, just like the WTO.

02:35:51.000 It's basically a self-appointed, quasi-governmental body funded by Big Pharma.

02:35:59.000 It is certainly a global authority.

02:36:02.000 It is made up of lots of people who I agree are not I was not elected.

02:36:11.000 I'm uncertain of the funding, but I do see quite heavy connections with pharmaceutical companies.

02:36:19.000 Now, we were hearing we had some victory last week where the EU was saying, oh no, now, and the UN was saying, hey, Codex, in your meeting in Italy, you're going too far saying ban all this stuff, but now we see this ruling in the aftermath.

02:36:32.000 I mean, try to decipher that for us.

02:36:35.000 Well, let me explain what has happened in Britain and Europe.

02:36:41.000 We first saw this particular draft of the directive.

02:36:47.000 It's called the Food Supplements Directive.

02:36:50.000 It deals with vitamins and minerals.

02:36:52.000 And it doesn't just deal with the vitamins and minerals you can go and buy in a health food shop or in a pharmacy.

02:36:58.000 It also eventually will tell you how much of any particular nutrient you can have in a fortified food.

02:37:06.000 And by fortified food we mean something like your breakfast seal that is fortified with the B vitamins or orange juice if you like that is fortified with vitamin C. They will dictate how much that will be.

02:37:20.000 Now, this has been coming for a long, long time.

02:37:23.000 They don't want us defending ourselves from all the toxic waste and the garbage.

02:37:26.000 Indeed, indeed.

02:37:28.000 We have the right to look after our own health.

02:37:30.000 They are denying us that right and it is not acceptable.

02:37:34.000 But if I may continue, the Food Supplement Directive dictates what nutrients we can use and in what doses.

02:37:44.000 It comes with a list attached and it says okay here's 114 substances you can use these in your supplements.

02:37:53.000 Later on we will tell you what doses you can use but for now here's the list of the nutrients sources that you can use.

02:38:00.000 Now when we checked that list against the British market, the existing British market, that all the regulators here accept is safe, and bear in mind we're only one step behind you, we found that there were more than 200, in fact approaching 300 nutrients that are on our market today that are not on that list.

02:38:24.000 And that will affect tens of thousands of products.

02:38:28.000 We think it will, over here, In Britain, it will affect at least 5,000 products.

02:38:35.000 We're just a little island, but we're a great lot of people.

02:38:40.000 75 million people?

02:38:43.000 I'm sorry?

02:38:44.000 What are you, 75 mil?

02:38:45.000 No, we're 60 million, but 21 million people use these supplements on a regular basis.

02:38:51.000 That's a huge number of people.

02:38:53.000 That's a huge percentage of our population.

02:38:56.000 I thought the UK was 70 million.

02:38:59.000 I beg your pardon?

02:39:00.000 I thought the UK was 70 million.

02:39:02.000 Is that counting all the areas?

02:39:04.000 No, we're 60 million.

02:39:06.000 Oh, I'm sure you know.

02:39:07.000 You're over there.

02:39:08.000 I know.

02:39:08.000 I promised.

02:39:10.000 A third of our population uses these supplements.

02:39:13.000 And, you know, we are up in arms against this.

02:39:16.000 Now, we have been campaigning since we saw this draft of the directive against the regulations.

02:39:25.000 The fact that we lost a court case in Europe yesterday will not stop us fighting.

02:39:31.000 You know, we're a great race here.

02:39:34.000 We won't let people walk all over us.

02:39:36.000 We believe that the ruling yesterday was completely wrong, and we are going on fighting.

02:39:41.000 We still have at least two chances to turn this around.

02:39:46.000 I want to talk about those, but even in ancient medieval England, the serfs could eat what they had.

02:39:52.000 The king didn't control totally what you ate.

02:39:55.000 This is complete abject slavery.

02:39:58.000 If you can't get the supplements you wanted.

02:40:00.000 Folks, we're not talking about, you know, some super complex, weird, you know, plant extract.

02:40:05.000 We're talking about vitamin C, aren't we, Sue?

02:40:08.000 Yes, we are.

02:40:09.000 We're talking about all the vitamins that you readily use in the U.S.

02:40:13.000 We're no different.

02:40:16.000 The problem is...

02:40:18.000 There is still a school of thought over here that says two things.

02:40:22.000 Firstly, this is the first piece of fiction.

02:40:25.000 You get all the nutrients you need from your diet.

02:40:28.000 Now how many times have you heard that?

02:40:31.000 More numbers than I care to remember, I'm sure.

02:40:33.000 We know that is now not true.

02:40:36.000 The second piece of fiction is that vitamins are dangerous.

02:40:40.000 We know they are not.

02:40:41.000 In fact, even our regulators over here show on their website that in the last eleven years there have only been eleven reported cases where there has been an adverse effect.

02:40:55.000 Let me tell you, here in the United States there are over two hundred and eighteen thousand deaths Oh, I couldn't agree more.

02:41:02.000 reactions from certified pharmacological products.

02:41:07.000 So 200,000 versus here in the U.S. in the last couple decades, not even 100 people that have gotten sick or died from contaminated vitamins.

02:41:17.000 So, yeah, vitamins aren't perfect, but they're light years better than Prozac and Ritalin.

02:41:23.000 Oh, I couldn't agree more.

02:41:24.000 Listen, I'm on your side here.

02:41:27.000 Oh, I know you are.

02:41:28.000 No, no, if I sound angry, Sue, it's not with you.

02:41:30.000 I am disgusted.

02:41:31.000 Look, people are finally waking up, though.

02:41:33.000 People always say, it can't happen here.

02:41:35.000 Our government wouldn't do that.

02:41:36.000 Our Supreme Court just said we don't own our private property.

02:41:40.000 So, I mean, it's just getting, it's tyranny.

02:41:42.000 I have an article here out of the Scotsman last week.

02:41:45.000 Big Brother UK turning into Stasi-like state.

02:41:50.000 Ooh, powerful stuff.

02:41:51.000 Yeah.

02:41:53.000 But you know, we're not too far apart in what's happening to both of us.

02:41:57.000 No, I know, it's a similar system.

02:41:59.000 Yes, but we have to overcome it and that's why we are continuing our fight.

02:42:04.000 So what do you do if the government tomorrow says, that's it, we're just banning vitamins?

02:42:10.000 They can't do that because there are a couple of clauses written into this directive and we are making maximum use of them at the moment.

02:42:19.000 For example, they have said that if a manufacturer ...produces a safety dossier to prove that a substance is safe, a substance that is not on their approved list, then they will allow that substance to stay on the market until 2009.

02:42:39.000 But see, let me stop you right there.

02:42:42.000 This is what they always do.

02:42:43.000 Whenever they bring in something draconian, they always put a slow implementation on it.

02:42:48.000 Really, four or five years is nothing.

02:42:50.000 And then they get people to start self-reporting on themselves, to really try to dig dirt up on them, then they'll start selectively prosecuting and suing manufacturers.

02:43:00.000 You've got to just say, no, we're not doing anything you say, zero, because, look, They started regulating churches.

02:43:07.000 We now have official government churches in America like they have in Communist China. 0.99

02:43:11.000 But the average American is so dumb they don't know this. 0.96

02:43:14.000 And it started 50 years ago with, oh, you've still got total freedom under the First Amendment, just fill out this form. 0.99

02:43:21.000 Then they expanded the form to waive your rights.

02:43:24.000 Do you see what I'm saying?

02:43:25.000 Yes, I do.

02:43:26.000 But you know, today, in our Parliament, on a Wednesday in our Parliament, The Prime Minister, Mr. Blair, has to answer direct questions.

02:43:39.000 And there were three questions raised in the House today on this issue.

02:43:44.000 And he did say that the first thing he said is that the dossiers have been submitted and they would be treated with a very light touch.

02:43:53.000 He was not in the business of removing products from the shelves that were safe. 0.93

02:43:58.000 But Blair and liar are interchangeable.

02:44:02.000 I don't think he's ever told the truth.

02:44:05.000 I think perhaps you do him a disservice.

02:44:09.000 I think on many instances he's had to choose his words carefully, but I do think that he is behind the campaigners on this issue.

02:44:20.000 So are you lobbying right now?

02:44:22.000 Were you there during Prime Minister's questions?

02:44:24.000 No, I watched it on TV.

02:44:25.000 Yeah, I mean I watch it Sunday nights when I hear it here sometimes.

02:44:28.000 But look, all I'm saying, I mean we have a lot of British correspondents on this show, we've had like probably Well, we've had probably 50 calls from England this week and we've probably already had 5 guests on this week from England.

02:44:41.000 People I've talked to from England can't stand Blair.

02:44:43.000 I don't want to get off into a thing about Blair.

02:44:45.000 No, let's stay where we are.

02:44:46.000 Let's stay with these supplements because they're just so important.

02:44:50.000 They're more important than any individual.

02:44:53.000 Well, how do you stop it?

02:44:56.000 Well, I don't know that we can stop the directive across Europe.

02:45:02.000 What we can do, and what is achievable, is a derogation for Britain.

02:45:08.000 Well, what about just pulling out of the Euro?

02:45:10.000 Well, that's easier said than done.

02:45:12.000 There are a lot of people who would be totally in agreement with you, would be right behind you and say, yes, that's exactly what we've got to do.

02:45:19.000 Well, it's already collapsing in France and the Netherlands.

02:45:21.000 It is.

02:45:22.000 It is.

02:45:23.000 The support for the European Union is collapsing.

02:45:27.000 You're absolutely right.

02:45:28.000 I mean, why add this big thick layer of draconian regulation and bureaucrats?

02:45:33.000 Well, you know, there are some things that you can't change quickly.

02:45:36.000 And we have a government that is very pro-Europe.

02:45:40.000 Um, and, um, because of that, for that, you know, since they were elected in 1997, um, they have bent over backwards to really, um, be good Europeans.

02:45:52.000 And I think in many cases... But you're not Europeans, you're British! 1.00

02:45:57.000 I would like to think so.

02:45:58.000 I think of myself as British.

02:46:01.000 But you see, when you have a government that wants to be seen as a good European, they tend to take what Europe says and just get on with it and do it.

02:46:12.000 There are other countries that don't do that.

02:46:15.000 Other countries stand back and say, hey, Europe, you think we're doing that?

02:46:18.000 Forget it.

02:46:19.000 Not Britain. 0.88

02:46:20.000 Britain sticks to the letter. 0.69

02:46:22.000 All right.

02:46:25.000 Do we still have that particular caller that had a question for her, Melissa in Texas?

02:46:29.000 She's been holding for 45 minutes.

02:46:31.000 Well, that's alright.

02:46:32.000 We'll try to go to your calls here in the last segment that's coming up in just a moment, folks, at 800-259-9231.

02:46:37.000 We're talking to Sue Croft.

02:46:40.000 She's the Director of Communications for an England-based group that is really lobbying and fighting it in the thick of it.

02:46:49.000 Sue, there's no doubt who's behind this though.

02:46:51.000 The government isn't doing this because they care about us.

02:46:53.000 Big Pharma has said they want the supplement shut down and basically something that's sold by them with a prescription.

02:47:00.000 Do you think they'll ever be able to get that through?

02:47:04.000 It's very difficult.

02:47:07.000 Our difficulty is that France and Germany, the two countries that have the most powerful pharmaceutical companies, really want this legislation.

02:47:17.000 And if it comes down to it, because Europe has a duty to deliver this directive, they are quite likely to go for what France and Germany will accept.

02:47:30.000 And that will be dreadful for us all.

02:47:34.000 Well, I mean, there is just a pall, or a black shroud of loss of liberty all over the western world, and none of it has anything to do with terrorism, none of it, it's just corrupt corporations that are not free market, using government to go after their competition, and in the process we lose jobs, we lose access, we lose freedom of choice, Sue, I mean, are people starting to wake up to this paradigm?

02:47:59.000 Oh yes they are, oh very much so.

02:48:03.000 You know, we may be a small island, but we recently launched a petition to get votes to try and put pressure on our British government.

02:48:12.000 We got 1,080,000 signatures on that petition.

02:48:16.000 It was presented on the floor of the House of Commons.

02:48:19.000 It was ignored.

02:48:20.000 I don't think they will ignore such a thing again.

02:48:24.000 Well, will they get riots like the poll tax if they try this? 0.79

02:48:28.000 Oh, whether we'll get riots, I don't know.

02:48:31.000 But there is quite a lot of action being planned for the autumn.

02:48:35.000 Alright, stay with us, Sue Croft.

02:48:36.000 We appreciate the time.

02:48:37.000 Time to do five more minutes on the other side and end this transmission against tyranny.

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02:51:06.000 By getting the nutrients it needs, your body can balance your blood pressure and and your cholesterol levels on its own without prescription drugs.

02:51:12.000 And you'll have more energy.

02:51:13.000 What's more, your body can clean and clear your arteries on its own as long as it has the proper nutrients.

02:51:18.000 Everybody understands the importance of keeping their arteries clear.

02:51:21.000 But did you know that in 25% of the cases, the first symptom of blocked arteries is death?

02:51:27.000 Don't take unnecessary risks!

02:51:29.000 Keep your arteries healthy and clear by taking Heart and Body Extract.

02:51:32.000 To get Heart and Body Extract, go to heartandbodyextract.com or call 1-866-295-5305.

02:51:36.000 That's 866-295-5305.

02:51:36.000 866-295-5305.

02:51:38.000 That's 866-295-5305.

02:51:41.000 Call now.

02:51:42.000 We're going to be letting our guests who are off go here in just a moment.

02:51:57.000 We'll make a few final calls.

02:52:00.000 People are calling in about the London bombing.

02:52:02.000 Big developments on that that we're going to be posting on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com here in the next couple of hours.

02:52:09.000 So be sure and check it out.

02:52:10.000 Sue Croft, how do folks visit the website of your organization?

02:52:14.000 Because it has a lot of good info on the site.

02:52:16.000 Tell us about it.

02:52:17.000 It does.

02:52:18.000 And I'm very proud of our website and we do try to keep everybody informed of what's happening.

02:52:25.000 If you have the number, it's www.healthchoice.org.uk.

02:52:33.000 And it's a mine of information, and I do hope you guys will take a look.

02:52:37.000 Now give us that website again.

02:52:39.000 It's www.healthchoice.org.uk.

02:52:46.000 Alright, and Sue, just any key points or closing comments?

02:52:55.000 Closing comments.

02:52:55.000 We all need to be very careful because we need to keep our supplements.

02:53:01.000 They are very important to us all for all sorts of own personal reasons.

02:53:06.000 We need to fight the legislation.

02:53:08.000 We must not give in.

02:53:09.000 We've got to keep going.

02:53:11.000 There are all sorts of people who don't understand supplements and those are the people who are trying to make decisions on our behalf.

02:53:19.000 It is not good enough, and we must fight it all the way.

02:53:22.000 You must fight it in your way, in your country, exactly as we are doing here.

02:53:27.000 We're not just fighting what's happening in Britain, we're fighting Europe too, and that's quite hard.

02:53:32.000 But we will come through, never fear.

02:53:34.000 Well our media is just masters at saying, there's no problem, we don't want to take your supplements, we're just going to regulate them.

02:53:40.000 Well that's the exact same thing.

02:53:43.000 There is a problem.

02:53:44.000 We do stand to lose our health insurance, if you like.

02:53:48.000 Our supplements are our insurance for good health.

02:53:51.000 We do stand to lose that unless we fight.

02:53:54.000 And that means everybody.

02:53:56.000 It's no good sitting back and saying, oh, somebody else will do it.

02:54:00.000 Because they won't.

02:54:01.000 Everybody has the responsibility to join in.

02:54:04.000 Every freedom we've got is under attack.

02:54:06.000 Sue Croft, take care.

02:54:07.000 Thank you.

02:54:08.000 God bless.

02:54:08.000 What a nice lady.

02:54:10.000 A very gentle lady.

02:54:11.000 All right, let's talk to Chris in California.

02:54:14.000 Chris, go ahead.

02:54:17.000 Pretty good, sir.

02:54:18.000 Hey, I just want to let you know that I'm a really big fan of your website.

02:54:23.000 I've been looking into this stuff for a while now.

02:54:26.000 And you've got a nice fall in California.

02:54:28.000 We're some young kids.

02:54:30.000 We're 19, 20 years old, and we're just all about corruption and trying to expose it.

02:54:35.000 Good.

02:54:35.000 What did you call about, my friend?

02:54:37.000 I called because I've been looking into a lot of things.

02:54:40.000 I found out about Pentagon being a military operation with a missile.

02:54:48.000 All of this with NORAD and basically our government being criminals against our health and our environment and against the Geneva Convention and with Halliburton being a corporate agenda Well, that's what they're doing.

02:55:04.000 I mean, Dick Cheney's wife's on the board, a Lockheed selling mega-subs.

02:55:08.000 I mean, it's a joke.

02:55:08.000 It's all criminal.

02:55:10.000 It is all criminal.

02:55:11.000 My wife's not going to get in trouble for burning a bunch of CIA people. 1.00

02:55:16.000 Definitely, definitely.

02:55:17.000 I like when you say Al-Ciata.

02:55:19.000 That's all it is.

02:55:20.000 That's all it is.

02:55:21.000 But the biggest thing of my opinion for all of this is what can we do?

02:55:27.000 We're some young kids here in California.

02:55:29.000 Well, let me tell you, because we're almost out of time, Chris.

02:55:32.000 Rome wasn't built in a day.

02:55:33.000 The New World Order wasn't built in a day.

02:55:35.000 And we're not going to tear it down in a day.

02:55:37.000 But don't look for Dan Rather or Brian Williams to tell you that we're winning.

02:55:43.000 We are winning.

02:55:44.000 And just keep moving forward.

02:55:45.000 Keep doing a little bit every day.

02:55:46.000 Keep informing others.

02:55:48.000 And we're going to come through this with God's help.

02:55:50.000 Take care.

02:55:51.000 All right, man.

02:55:51.000 Thank you.

02:55:52.000 You bet.

02:55:52.000 A lot of big guests coming up Thursday and Friday.

02:55:55.000 A ton of news getting posted on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

02:56:03.000 The fight is joined.

02:56:04.000 Everybody we talk to, even people that have been pessimistic, are saying the awakening is exploding, is accelerating.

02:56:11.000 Strike while the iron is hot.

02:56:13.000 Become a leader.

02:56:14.000 Get involved.

02:56:16.000 Don't have fear.

02:56:17.000 The only fear you should have is not taking action.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

02:56:22.000 Back to 9-9 at midnight.

Alex Jones Show - July 13, 2005

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