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00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 All right, my friends.

00:00:25.000 It is Wednesday, the 20th day of July 2005.

00:00:32.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours, coming up in the third hour, Professor David Ray Griffin will be joining us to talk about some of the new 9-11 developments and revelations, as well as his cursory take on the London bombings of a week and a half ago, or almost, it'll be two weeks coming up tomorrow,

00:00:59.000 And at the same time, in the second hour, we have no lights, no sirens, Robert Sia, the corruption and redemption of an inner-city cop.

00:01:09.000 And it says he makes no apologies for lying on the stand and being corrupt.

00:01:15.000 That's what it takes to keep us all safe.

00:01:19.000 And so, yes, we're going to be talking to Robert Sia coming up in the second hour, and this should be extremely interesting.

00:01:33.000 In the meantime, there is masses of vital news.

00:01:36.000 Gallup Poll finds Lord Bush's approval rating at a new low.

00:01:40.000 So like a heroin addict, he got a little bit of a push off of the London tragedy.

00:01:47.000 Tragedies?

00:01:49.000 And now he's plunged even further.

00:01:53.000 Two religious soldiers believe behind Jaleem fake bomb, Haratz is reporting, ah, the Israeli government in more fear-mongering, more bombings and fake bombings.

00:02:06.000 This out of Haratz.

00:02:08.000 I guess Haratz is anti-Semitic.

00:02:10.000 Oh, it's a big Jewish newspaper. 0.99

00:02:12.000 Well, they're still evil. 0.93

00:02:14.000 Just like they're evil when they report, like the Jerusalem Post, that Israel actually carries out bombings.

00:02:19.000 We're just supposed to ignore all that, even though it's admitted, and just trust Israel. 0.80

00:02:24.000 Just like our own government's been caught doing it, and England's been caught doing it, Russia's been caught doing it, Bush is confident in his new Supreme Court nominee.

00:02:34.000 He was anti-abortion, at least on paper, back in the 1980s, but he has ruled on the bench and made public statements that he's going to leave Roe v. Wade like it is.

00:02:45.000 And so a lot of conservative groups are decrying him, and so are liberals, of which everybody should be decrying him.

00:02:53.000 Mr. Roberts, Lord Bush's new nominee for the Supreme Court, John G. Roberts, after they pulled the The trial balloon they put up for Alberto, Bush is above the law, I love abortion, I love gun control, torture is good, Gonzales.

00:03:10.000 They brought forward this Alberto Gonzales clone.

00:03:13.000 Now this guy's a big Bush insider, worked in the first Bush administration.

00:03:18.000 He has one of the most pro-government, whether the government's the plaintiff, Or whether it's the government that is in trouble.

00:03:27.000 He has the most pro-government record that we can find.

00:03:30.000 I mean, some are saying the most pro-government record.

00:03:33.000 I mean, he doesn't even really look at the evidence.

00:03:35.000 He just hail Bush, hail government.

00:03:38.000 And he's the guy, a federal court said, no, you can't secretly grab people and secretly have tribunals try them.

00:03:45.000 You've got to give them a real jury trial.

00:03:47.000 You've got to charge them.

00:03:50.000 This is the guy who was the deciding vote on a three-judge panel overturning another federal judge on that.

00:03:57.000 And he's blocked Dick Cheney records being released.

00:04:00.000 He's a real piece of work.

00:04:03.000 He's part of the crime family, we could say.

00:04:06.000 He's been a good capo for him.

00:04:08.000 And he's being promoted up to boss now.

00:04:13.000 So, good promotion for him.

00:04:15.000 He's been a good earner for the family.

00:04:19.000 And now he's moving on up!

00:04:22.000 Moving on up to the skies!

00:04:25.000 And he'll probably be there for 30-40 years as our leader.

00:04:30.000 So, and then of course, Rehnquist, the Remoroid Rehnquist, is probably going to be leaving here pretty soon. 0.75

00:04:41.000 And so it looks like we will have Lord Gonzales then unless we intensify firepower in the info war against him.

00:04:49.000 But I gotta tell you, Roberts is better than Gonzales.

00:04:53.000 At least he's not openly pro-abortion.

00:04:56.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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00:08:07.000 Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central.

00:08:13.000 Back from 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.

00:08:16.000 We're here.

00:08:17.000 And I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:08:20.000 I want to get into the Supreme Court nominee, Roberts.

00:08:23.000 I want to get into some new developments, big developments with the London situation.

00:08:30.000 I want to get into mainstream news articles about the military surveilling the American people.

00:08:37.000 And which is just a major hallmark of a very serious police state entering into martial law.

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00:09:04.000 And I just commend them.

00:09:06.000 And I want to thank all of the affiliates that we've got.

00:09:09.000 Some affiliates we've had, you know, for six, seven years since I got a syndicated broadcast.

00:09:15.000 And I want to thank all the new affiliates.

00:09:18.000 I want to thank all the sponsors, the listeners, the great folks that make the broadcast possible.

00:09:24.000 All of you.

00:09:25.000 Look, I just love the Second Amendment.

00:09:28.000 I love the unborn children.

00:09:29.000 I love our national sovereignty and our borders.

00:09:33.000 And our government, run by the Democrats and Republicans, are all on the same side.

00:09:38.000 They have a fake WWF-type wrestling theatrical display for you.

00:09:46.000 It's acting, but they divide up the power, the spoils.

00:09:50.000 They do occasionally fight over those spoils, but the agenda moves forward.

00:09:55.000 And I don't want to lose our private property.

00:09:57.000 I don't want to lose control of our children through the forced psychological testing and drugging of new freedom.

00:10:03.000 I don't like it that gun control laws are being greedily passed by Republicans predominantly all over the country.

00:10:09.000 Democrats can't get away with it. 0.64

00:10:11.000 They get stopped.

00:10:12.000 Because Republicans will mobilize locally to do it, but all over the country, Republicans do it.

00:10:17.000 Schwarzenegger, Pataki, others, and nothing's being done.

00:10:22.000 So I'm here to raise the alarm bell.

00:10:25.000 About what Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and Sean Hannity will not tell you about.

00:10:31.000 They are partisan.

00:10:33.000 They are covering up the globalist agenda.

00:10:36.000 And they are deceiving you.

00:10:39.000 On most issues, while telling the truth on some other issues.

00:10:42.000 But I mean, rat poison is 98% good grain.

00:10:47.000 Well, with Limbaugh and those guys, it's 80% truth and 20% lies.

00:10:53.000 I mean, you get the same thing from the Democrats.

00:10:55.000 They'll tell the truth on a lot of issues, but then lie on other key issues.

00:10:59.000 It's time to stop going off of what they say, and it's time to start focusing on what they do.

00:11:06.000 And so for all the news stations that are joining us and picking up the broadcast, let me just tell it like it is.

00:11:14.000 Up until 105 years ago, roughly, Left and right was not taught in any university, in any high school, in any area of academia.

00:11:29.000 Left and right was simply an unknown political term, other than female being associated with the left. 0.87

00:11:41.000 Or, the sinister side, the female side, you know, the Bible, the fallen side, ate the apple, that was seen as left, or sinister, or rebellious, and the right was seen as patriarchal, that is male. 0.58

00:11:59.000 So, right is male, or patriarchal, And left is female or matriarchal.

00:12:06.000 That is the only left-right paradigm that there was in history.

00:12:12.000 Until 100 rough years ago.

00:12:16.000 Everyone had the true political paradigm.

00:12:21.000 And it was really a circle.

00:12:23.000 And on one side of the circle, the furthest point away from the other side of the circle, Stickin' on whatever wing you want, you have command and control.

00:12:34.000 Oligarchy. 0.74

00:12:36.000 Or, you know, one of the older forms of that, with the system of royalty.

00:12:43.000 And you have different forms of command and control.

00:12:46.000 Lutocracies and bureaucracies.

00:12:51.000 But really, it's all on that other side of the spectrum.

00:12:56.000 Command and control.

00:12:58.000 Mercantilism administered through an oligarchy or administered through a royal hereditary dynasty.

00:13:08.000 And then you had, starting about 450 years ago, the Renaissance.

00:13:13.000 Where elites lost control of their old centralized systems.

00:13:18.000 The Black Plague, really 500 years ago, knocked out a lot of organized government that had become predatory and centralized and never allowed any new ideas to come forward or any new businesses to develop or any new ideas to flourish.

00:13:37.000 But the Black Plague that killed upwards of 40 percent, depending on the nation, of European countries' populations and city-state populations as it spread through Italy and Greece and then into Western Europe and of course ending in England.

00:13:57.000 And so the Renaissance developed.

00:13:59.000 And they tried to use mercantilism 300-400 years ago to try to govern that, where the King or the Queen would issue licenses.

00:14:12.000 You know, if you drink Basque beer, you'll see the first trademarked beer.

00:14:16.000 And it'll say that on the back of the beer.

00:14:18.000 And it's a triangle.

00:14:19.000 And it says, you know, the first beer licensed by Her Majesty, you know, 300 years ago.

00:14:25.000 And so you could, quote, be free market if the government authorized you.

00:14:30.000 And the big corporations and companies and chartered institutions love that because they could then sic the government on any of their competition.

00:14:38.000 So it was kind of government teaming up with the corporate interest.

00:14:41.000 It was just the lords who owned the companies teaming up with the queen.

00:14:45.000 It was just a new way to try to bridle and get control over the free market.

00:14:51.000 And you could call that fascism.

00:14:55.000 We didn't get the term fascism until about 150 years ago, and that really developed in Italy, and then Mussolini picked it up 75 years ago and said, well it shouldn't be called fascism or the fascista, it should be called corporatism or mercantilism, and he was correct. 0.88

00:15:14.000 And of course the fascii is a bundle of sticks, or nations, or peoples, bundled together by the centralized power, with axe heads on top of it, symbolizing the militarized power of the state.

00:15:30.000 And by the way, after World War II, for some reason, they put the eagle and the scepter with a spike, the trojan, and they put the bundled sticks and axe handles, the fascista, in the Senate.

00:15:42.000 And so now fascist Nazi symbols adorn the Capitale.

00:15:48.000 Again, the Capitale itself is a symbol of Roman power, so fascism again is a more modern interpretation of imperialism.

00:15:57.000 So on one end of the political spectrum we have command and control.

00:16:04.000 Communism, socialism, fascism.

00:16:07.000 And they taught the public a hundred years ago that there's no more freedom versus slavery.

00:16:12.000 No, it's all... Here are your choices.

00:16:14.000 You get to choose socialism, fascism, communism, and all its different derivatives.

00:16:21.000 Well, that isn't a choice at all.

00:16:22.000 Again, they're masters at giving you a false choice, going, here are your choices, that are actually a very narrow spectrum.

00:16:32.000 It isn't a choice at all.

00:16:34.000 Like the Republicans and Democrats.

00:16:36.000 The same policies, the same things happen.

00:16:38.000 The agenda moves forward of more centralization, command and control, regardless of who's in office.

00:16:44.000 But before a hundred years ago, populism was taught.

00:16:49.000 And it was, does this give the people more liberty or less liberty?

00:16:52.000 Does this lower the taxes and give people more autonomy, or does it give the people less autonomy? 0.88

00:16:59.000 And it was all discussions of tyrants, and despots, and king rats, and thugs, and scallywags, and tarring and feathering.

00:17:08.000 Everything was about stopping centralization.

00:17:11.000 The government was set up with three branches, all divided against themselves, divided against the states.

00:17:18.000 A fourth separation, and then separations within the states.

00:17:22.000 Endless fractures, endless gridlock, endless stumbling blocks to men on white horses.

00:17:28.000 Again, the classic signet of a dictator.

00:17:36.000 So the real political spectrum is command and control on one end and anarchy on the other.

00:17:41.000 Anarchy is impossible.

00:17:43.000 It never happens.

00:17:44.000 You always get gangs and thugs and strong men.

00:17:48.000 That always develops strong men with their political gravitational pull, always centralized control, and then always bring you back to the other end of the spectrum.

00:17:59.000 Anarchy doesn't exist for more than five minutes, literally.

00:18:03.000 So, the Republic, as the Founding Fathers taught it, and as the Greek philosophers taught it, is in the center of the real political spectrum.

00:18:15.000 It is at the midway point between total command and control and total anarchy.

00:18:19.000 And it is a codified laws to limit the elite and to guard everyone's freedoms, and so 51% can't vote away the rights of the other 49%, something that did happen in pure democracies in Athens.

00:18:37.000 Of course, being one of the only actual Greek provinces that really ever did have a democracy.

00:18:42.000 Most of them didn't.

00:18:43.000 Macedonia did to some extent.

00:18:46.000 Sparta certainly didn't.

00:18:48.000 But again, that's a whole other subject.

00:18:51.000 People don't even know where we came from.

00:18:52.000 You know, why our buildings are built in Greek style.

00:18:55.000 Why, you know, all of this.

00:18:57.000 They've robbed you of that.

00:18:59.000 Okay?

00:19:00.000 And so, we've got to relearn that if we're going to get our country back.

00:19:06.000 And it's really that simple.

00:19:08.000 The corporations are now bigger than the government.

00:19:11.000 They are using fascistic control.

00:19:14.000 First they use socialism to get us under government control and domesticated.

00:19:18.000 Then socialism always leads to fascism, or more properly, corporate mercantile neo-serfdom.

00:19:26.000 Don't look up serfdom.

00:19:28.000 Don't look up feudalism.

00:19:29.000 And that's what the New World Order is. 0.87

00:19:31.000 You can throw out all the terms.

00:19:33.000 You can throw out all the stuff you've been taught.

00:19:35.000 It's all false.

00:19:39.000 I'll stick with Aristotle and Plato and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

00:19:46.000 Okay? 1.00

00:19:47.000 I'm not going to stick with the phony garbage. 0.99

00:19:49.000 You were fed, our forefathers were fed a hundred years ago. 0.98

00:19:53.000 We're in the shape we are because they fed us as a computer, as a people, false information.

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00:24:00.000 Basically, the Republicans and Democrats are owned by the same financial interests that are organized crime syndicates who are totally ruthless.

00:24:15.000 And they know how to put on a big hubbub and give their distraction a lot of attention.

00:24:20.000 And, you know, all the fanfare, like this fight between the Republicans and Democrats is really a real one, and so we all pay attention and think, man, that's the whole discussion.

00:24:29.000 Meanwhile, the real world's going on all around us, and we're losing our basic freedoms.

00:24:36.000 Alright, this is what's coming up, and of course your calls are coming up as well, 1-800-259-9231.

00:24:43.000 We do have Robert Sia, this former New York detective, who doesn't apologize, he says, about, you know, lying on the stand and stuff to get people convicted.

00:24:55.000 Gallup finds Bush approval rating at new low, be afraid, be very afraid.

00:25:00.000 He got a little bit of a boost out of the tragic London bombings, but now it's already fallen again.

00:25:06.000 And two religious soldiers believe behind Jaleem fake bombing.

00:25:11.000 So another report out of Haraz with the Israelis with fake bombings and real bombings to scare the public into submission. 0.94

00:25:17.000 We'll get into that.

00:25:20.000 This new Supreme Court nominee, conservatives don't like him because he claims he's anti-abortion but that he's ruled neutral on abortion in the past.

00:25:29.000 And the left doesn't like him, and rightfully so, no one should like him.

00:25:33.000 Because he has one of the worst records for voting with the government.

00:25:38.000 He's just a government worshipper.

00:25:40.000 If the government's in trouble, he votes on their side.

00:25:42.000 If the government's prosecuting, he votes on their side.

00:25:45.000 He voted the government doesn't need to tell you if they're secretly arresting somebody or not giving them a trial.

00:25:51.000 He was the deciding vote overturning another federal court just a few weeks ago.

00:25:56.000 And he's worked for the Bushes for twenty-plus years.

00:26:00.000 As one of their lawyers, he's just like Gonzalez who worked for them with Enron.

00:26:04.000 And he is a real piece of work.

00:26:08.000 President Bush's new nominee, John G. Roberts.

00:26:12.000 A White House send-off Wednesday for the Senate confirmation process.

00:26:18.000 So we'll go over a little bit of what's in this guy's background.

00:26:24.000 I mean, you gotta be worried when liberal newspapers have headlines like this.

00:26:28.000 Judge John Roberts combines youth, intellect, temperament, and judicial philosophy.

00:26:35.000 Really?

00:26:37.000 But let me get into some police state news right now that's really, really important.

00:26:44.000 State Senate.

00:26:45.000 Big Brother was watching.

00:26:49.000 Investigation into National Guard widens Unit may face subpoenas, contempt charges.

00:27:01.000 And this is out of the local Argus newspaper.

00:27:05.000 Invested.

00:27:06.000 Now understand, I've told you about this for years.

00:27:09.000 Again, not tooting my horn, it's just that long before it was in the news, we were talking about it.

00:27:13.000 They don't just have National Guard out spying on peaceful protesters, but they have special forces. 0.99

00:27:20.000 You know, planting video cameras to catch your mayor having sex with a prostitute. 0.98

00:27:26.000 I mean, they have these guys all over the place. 0.99

00:27:30.000 Hundreds of thousands of troops over the last 20 years have been what they call sheep-dipped. 0.99

00:27:35.000 They're taken out of the public budget.

00:27:39.000 They're told they're part of special ops.

00:27:41.000 Then they get basically brought into secret paramilitary organizations assigned to the shadow government.

00:27:47.000 to FEMA and others, and they're operating right here in Austin, Texas.

00:27:51.000 I mean, I've had them, in my face, threaten me.

00:27:54.000 You know, just walk up to me in a parking lot.

00:27:56.000 We get their plates and run it back, and sure enough, it is military.

00:28:00.000 State Senate Big Brother was watching.

00:28:03.000 Investigation of the National Guard widens.

00:28:06.000 Unit may face subpoenas, contempt charges.

00:28:09.000 The military is not supposed to be involved in your life.

00:28:13.000 I mean, if there's a giant fire or an earthquake, you can have the military out to help people.

00:28:18.000 But folks, it's bad enough to have them for riot control, but when they're running around spying on you, folks, that's East Germany. 0.93

00:28:24.000 That's Russia. 0.84

00:28:26.000 A probe into a domestic surveillance unit within the California National Guard Ballooned Tuesday into a full-blown investigation into widespread allegations of spying on U.S.

00:28:37.000 citizens, misuse of state money, and retaliation against Guard troops who brought the allegations to light.

00:28:44.000 Well, that's why you're gonna lose.

00:28:46.000 A lot of these troops are waking up.

00:28:48.000 And they take some gung-ho guy who's already killed people in Latin America and the Middle East, and they take him and tell him, now you're gonna train to take out Patriots and confiscate guns, And they, most of them say no.

00:28:59.000 But that's a weeding process.

00:29:00.000 They get the psychopaths that just like power, and like having that expense account credit card, driving around in brand new, you know, Trans Ams, living in $3,000 a month apartments. 0.97

00:29:11.000 And then you gotta deal a little drugs on the side too, because you do some anti-narcotic stuff, and you gotta deal the drugs to be trusted, and you know, you don't mind having five stripper girlfriends, and getting to knock people's teeth out, and pretty soon you're just a full-blown gangster, aren't you punk?

00:29:27.000 Senator Joseph Dunn said after a capital hearing he will order top National Guard officers to testify under oath.

00:29:33.000 And if they don't do so, they're going to get arrested.

00:29:37.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, and talk about the criminals that are all around us in plain clothes who are hardcore killers with badges.

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00:32:59.000 I want folks to understand something.

00:33:13.000 This article, out of California, goes on to report What everybody's seen and shot video of and gotten photos of.

00:33:24.000 Regular U.S.

00:33:25.000 Army, National Guard, plainclothes troops, but sometimes, I mean, in uniforms with the black berets, they'll be out in small towns, big cities, with video cameras videotaping you at Second Amendment demonstrations, land rights demonstrations, environmental group demonstrations.

00:33:44.000 I've been out protesting mainstream groups, you know, environmental groups, and there are the troops up on top, you know, Austin buildings.

00:33:51.000 I mean, this is eight years ago!

00:33:54.000 And in my new film, Marshall Law, 9-11 Rides the Police State, we have a whole section of the film showing mainstream news articles, video we shot, and then photos and video all over the country and news articles about this!

00:34:09.000 I mean, this is publicly admitted, but listen to this article.

00:34:13.000 Senator Joseph Dunn said after a Capitol hearing that he will order top National Guard officers to testify under oath, and after they refused to do so, Voluntarily, he might seek contempt of legislature charges against those officers because he said the State Military Department has stonewalled his efforts to get documents about a secret unit called the Information Synchronization Knowledge Management and Intelligence Fusion Unit.

00:34:39.000 That unit conducted and collected information on a Mother's Day anti-war protest in front of the State Capitol.

00:34:46.000 Dunn described the unit as a tip of the iceberg of domestic spying units within the California National Guard.

00:34:54.000 California Military Department documents refer to internal agencies such as the Domestic Watch Center, the Combined Intel Fusion Group, we have that right here in Austin, and a Joint Operations Center, among others.

00:35:06.000 But then, don't worry, this is the lawyer for the Guard.

00:35:09.000 We have received a volume of information about domestic surveillance units around California within the Guard, Dunn said.

00:35:15.000 In letters to senators and state military officials, rejected the allegations, oh sure, And complain his subpoenas are overtly broad, overly broad, and that they may of the sought documents are classified.

00:35:33.000 So, that's classified.

00:35:34.000 You can't see it.

00:35:35.000 The California Military Department does not have a domestic intelligence program, wrote George O'Connell, a private attorney hired by the Guard.

00:35:43.000 Oh, you do not have one.

00:35:45.000 Now listen to this.

00:35:47.000 You know why he's telling the truth?

00:35:49.000 Because it's not called the Domestic Intelligence Program.

00:35:51.000 Absolutely, that's true.

00:35:53.000 It's called the Domestic Watch Center Combined Intel Fusion Group and Joint Operations Center.

00:36:00.000 Sure, that's what it's called.

00:36:01.000 It's not called... See, this is how they'll lie to you.

00:36:05.000 The California Military Department does not have a Domestic Intelligence Program.

00:36:11.000 You know, it's like Ashcroft saying there is no Patriot Act II months after it's introduced publicly.

00:36:16.000 He just says it's a lie, it's just made up.

00:36:20.000 And it's true because it's not called Patriot Act II, it had another name.

00:36:23.000 We call it that.

00:36:25.000 On July 28th, Brigadier General John Alexander, Acting Adjunct General, wrote, We were not in any way engaged in surveillance activities during the May 2000 Mother Day demonstrations of any group.

00:36:36.000 Adding, That they simply went there with their video cameras to monitor the media coverage.

00:36:44.000 Ah, yes!

00:36:45.000 That's why I've had troops walk right up with a snapshot camera and take photos of my face and then laugh at me. 0.94

00:36:52.000 You punks!

00:36:53.000 We're taking photos of you and we put you on the internet. 0.94

00:36:56.000 We put you on TV.

00:36:57.000 We put you in martial law.

00:37:00.000 But during Questioning Tuesday by Dunn and Senator Tom McClintock, Joseph Riga, hello, said after long pauses he did not know if the guard kept files of individual Californians.

00:37:12.000 So, now it's not denying, they're just saying we don't know.

00:37:16.000 And it gets much worse.

00:37:17.000 The article's a lot longer and I don't have time to read it all.

00:37:21.000 But let me explain something.

00:37:22.000 They won't put troops on the borders.

00:37:25.000 They won't put troops to search the containers.

00:37:28.000 Something that's constitutional.

00:37:30.000 They will illegally and criminally Violates posse comitatus, and then this violates a bunch of other stuff.

00:37:36.000 Have them out there surveilling people.

00:37:38.000 And what the state rep said is true.

00:37:43.000 The member of the legislature said is true.

00:37:45.000 This is the tip of the iceberg.

00:37:46.000 They got these troops all over the place.

00:37:50.000 They augment gubernatorial security.

00:37:53.000 They augment the state police.

00:37:55.000 Look, folks.

00:37:56.000 My cousin, okay, is involved at high levels here in Austin Merging the regular army, the National Guard, and the APD covertly at the Berkstrom Base.

00:38:12.000 It's still, part of it is still a military base.

00:38:14.000 And they're out there, and they're involved in everything.

00:38:19.000 And they test these military men, and if they're good guys, they'll just be busy, you know, in logistics.

00:38:26.000 Or, you know, working on the helicopters. 0.99

00:38:29.000 But the scumbags who've shown they'll violate the law, you know, going back over 20 years. 0.98

00:38:33.000 This has been going on for 20 years that we've confirmed. 0.99

00:38:36.000 Growing as part of a secret program. 0.98

00:38:38.000 Those guys, people that are gangsters, but these are the most cowardly gangsters, though. 0.83

00:38:43.000 They're not even outside, you know, quote, the law. 0.98

00:38:46.000 They get to deal drugs, they get to kill people, they get to surveil, they get to blackmail.

00:38:54.000 You've heard about our new domestic CIA.

00:38:56.000 This is it. 0.97

00:38:59.000 Folks, it is so disgusting and so un-American. 1.00

00:39:06.000 And they're all over the place doing this. 0.98

00:39:10.000 Here's another one.

00:39:11.000 FBI keeping lengthy files on groups opposed to Bush's policies.

00:39:16.000 This is of Yahoo News.

00:39:20.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, has amassed at least 3,500 pages ...of internal documents from political protest groups and what the targets say amounts to political surveillance of some of President Bush's leading critics.

00:39:40.000 And it says that they have documents obtained by the Civil Liberties Union, the rights watchdog and prominent administration critic, and of course they're even being watched.

00:39:49.000 And they're loyal opposition, they're controlled.

00:39:51.000 The figures have emerged as part of a lawsuit of the Freedom of Information Act brought by the ACLU and other groups alleging the FBI is engaging in politically motivated spying against law-abiding organizations.

00:40:03.000 We know the government is keeping documents about the ACLU and other peaceful groups, said Attorney Romero, Anthony Romero, their Executive Director.

00:40:11.000 And it goes into the military and everybody else, uh, surveilling, um, you know, just so many groups.

00:40:20.000 Really mainstream groups.

00:40:23.000 And then there was a federal order when the ACLU sued them a year ago.

00:40:31.000 They used the Patriot Act to put a gag order on them saying that since it was part of a terrorism investigation that the ACLU wasn't allowed to talk about their suit.

00:40:43.000 See how that works, folks?

00:40:47.000 The Justice Department has said it will take up to a year to review the material the ACLU seeks.

00:40:52.000 The ACLU is seeking FBI surveillance files on itself, Greenpeace and others, and it goes on again to talk about that.

00:41:03.000 But I want you to understand that you want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes?

00:41:09.000 This is admitted in over 15 mainstream news articles that we've seen the last two months.

00:41:18.000 Out of South Texas and out of Arizona and Southern California.

00:41:24.000 Los Yetis are quote, former Mexican Special Forces trained by the CIA at the School of America's Encounter Drugs.

00:41:32.000 And now in mass, these quote, commandos, who we now have documented with the regular Mexican Army, are being protected.

00:41:39.000 Are all over Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, as far north as Dallas and areas of Oklahoma, blowing up cars, car bombings that you only see in local papers.

00:41:50.000 Imagine if there was a car bombing with a Muslim involved. 0.99

00:41:52.000 Man, it'd be 24-7 for six months. 0.96

00:41:54.000 But no, cars are blowing up, they're machine gunning, mass murder.

00:41:58.000 Over 127... That was a few weeks ago.

00:42:01.000 There's been a bunch more now, so it's over 130 killings in Texas in the last year.

00:42:06.000 The tourism industry is dead in Laredo and other areas.

00:42:08.000 It used to be bustling.

00:42:09.000 This is even on local news, local Fox News.

00:42:11.000 I mean, no one is there.

00:42:13.000 The Mexicans are moving out of this side of the border. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Mexican citizens and American citizens are leaving. 0.97

00:42:19.000 It is total carnage, and they're controlled by the U.S. 0.97

00:42:21.000 government.

00:42:22.000 They are protected, and we've had former top DEA agents on to talk about it.

00:42:26.000 They are Los Setas hit teams, also recruiting police and former U.S.

00:42:31.000 military under CIA control at huge training camps in South Texas, and there is a reign of terror.

00:42:38.000 Bush and his boys are very upset, the banks are very upset, that there are a lot of new cartels that have driven down the price of cocaine and heroin.

00:42:47.000 And so there is a reign of terror as they go after the cartels that aren't paying their cut.

00:42:52.000 And I mean, even down to street-level dealers.

00:42:55.000 It is just special forces cribs with CIA controllers just mass-swattering everywhere.

00:43:00.000 And they'll kill Border Patrol, they'll kill FBI, they're killing federal informants, they're killing sheriff's deputies, and the FBI won't investigate.

00:43:08.000 They just say, drop it, back off, hands off these people. 0.85

00:43:12.000 And so you think just regular U.S.

00:43:14.000 troops are bad?

00:43:14.000 Well, following suit, 20-plus percent of our Iraq forces are Mexican nationals.

00:43:20.000 That's Wall Street Journal.

00:43:22.000 And, well, most of the enforcers, the new mafia enforcers, in Texas to California, now into Oklahoma.

00:43:32.000 Las Jetas, by the way, is even popping up in Indiana.

00:43:34.000 And then MS-13 works under them.

00:43:38.000 This is directly controlled by the government.

00:43:40.000 So they got major, folks, the government has got major muscle.

00:43:45.000 I mean, this is so close to home, my cousin works for them.

00:43:49.000 Though he just is, you know, in a bureaucracy position, you know, over just, you know, basically running things.

00:43:55.000 The light bulbs and, you know, food and helicopters and, you know, just basic stuff.

00:43:59.000 But he sits there and watches all of it.

00:44:02.000 He wouldn't tell me much.

00:44:03.000 He'd just say, well, you've seen what's in the paper.

00:44:04.000 You know what's going on.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:44:06.000 Yeah, everything you said is true.

00:44:07.000 Yeah, it's horrible.

00:44:10.000 And again, he didn't agree with me five years ago.

00:44:13.000 So, I mean, take your pick, folks.

00:44:17.000 Look, the globalists are just good old-fashioned organized crime.

00:44:22.000 And they've got all these rationales, how they corrupt cops, how they corrupt troops.

00:44:26.000 Listen, I need you to go in there and deal some drugs. 0.98

00:44:30.000 I need you to make a buck.

00:44:32.000 And a year later you're like, well I've been making these buys and I got $50,000 here, and you're not even asking for it back.

00:44:37.000 Just keep it!

00:44:39.000 Keep it, Officer Johnson!

00:44:41.000 You know, keep it, Lieutenant Smith!

00:44:44.000 You know, we gotta, but we're not busting anybody.

00:44:46.000 Well, just, it's part of a long-term operation.

00:44:49.000 We're gonna bust some people, a month later.

00:44:51.000 Alright, you wanted to bust some people?

00:44:52.000 These are some guys.

00:44:53.000 Well, these aren't part of the drug network I'm in.

00:44:55.000 Well, still, and you go bust somebody, you go surveil somebody who's not paying their cut.

00:45:02.000 That's how it works, folks.

00:45:04.000 And then the cops, all the cops know this.

00:45:07.000 I mean, this is public.

00:45:09.000 Look, it's so public that Border Patrol caught a 18-wheeler packed end-to-end with cocaine.

00:45:17.000 And the driver shot, this was in the Associated Press, carried by the statesman.

00:45:20.000 This was like six years ago.

00:45:21.000 I see these cases all, but this is one of the best examples.

00:45:24.000 And the driver shot his mouth off.

00:45:26.000 Border Patrol, he said, you're going to get in trouble for this. 0.95

00:45:29.000 And they said, okay, that's it, and even roughed the guy up, because he shot his mouth off.

00:45:34.000 And, uh, they were real proud of themselves and sent the cocaine out, and the FBI and DEA showed up, grabbed the cocaine, said, that's it, don't discuss it, hold the media, no more press conferences, and released the driver, and the cocaine disappeared.

00:45:46.000 Now, that's because that 18-wheeler, folks, was marked.

00:45:49.000 I've even talked to the troops who've got the surveillance blimps, who see in the satellites, who see the drug shipments, and there's an officer behind them going, don't touch that one, interdict that one.

00:45:59.000 Don't touch that one.

00:46:01.000 And it's business, folks.

00:46:03.000 It's about an oligopoly of controlling the drug deals.

00:46:06.000 And, um, that's all you do.

00:46:09.000 And then you police, you know this is true, you got the nerve.

00:46:13.000 Because it's for your paycheck when you pull over some poor, zit-faced kid and they got a marijuana bag with a couple of joints in it. 0.94

00:46:23.000 And again, I don't support marijuana, folks.

00:46:25.000 I don't support alcohol.

00:46:26.000 It's all very, it's not good for you.

00:46:28.000 But the point is, is you got the nerve to take that kid in, and now they're going to be put into the system, and then they're going to pay thousands of dollars they don't have, and money on it, 9 chances out of 10, 90 plus percent of people in the last 20 years have used marijuana.

00:46:45.000 You're sending them to jail for something you did.

00:46:47.000 You remember riding around in your car with marijuana.

00:46:50.000 You're going to send that kid to jail when you know your bosses are controlling the narcotics trade in your town.

00:46:56.000 You know, why do you think the police chief lives in a million-dollar house?

00:47:00.000 In the past, corrupt police chiefs and people did it.

00:47:00.000 You know, that's the thing.

00:47:05.000 They were real good about covering up the money they had.

00:47:08.000 You know, they'd just take extravagant trips and, you know, do stuff like that and, you know, they'd give money to their brother who'd own all the stuff.

00:47:17.000 They don't even hide that now.

00:47:19.000 I mean, you go to these fancy neighborhoods, it's, you know, it's the police captains and their people and they're just rolling in cash.

00:47:25.000 Well, what do you think? 1.00

00:47:26.000 Are you stupid out there? 1.00

00:47:28.000 We've got terminal corruption. 1.00

00:47:30.000 Alright, I haven't even gotten into the Supreme Court situation.

00:47:34.000 The new developments in the London bombing.

00:47:35.000 We've got two guests coming up.

00:47:37.000 But right now, let's just go to some calls.

00:47:39.000 Emmett in Pennsylvania, then Paul and Rita and others.

00:47:43.000 Go ahead, Emmett.

00:47:44.000 Yes, hi Alex.

00:47:45.000 You have a right to toot your horn.

00:47:47.000 Last night I heard that AP Survey they did two years ago, and 46% of the people say George Bush isn't to be trusted.

00:47:58.000 This is two years ago.

00:48:00.000 Now, 62% of the people polled said George Bush isn't to be trusted.

00:48:05.000 But the problem is, the global issues presidents like Birdcage Liner, he takes all the heat as a puppet, and then another agenda comes in and it takes us five years to wake up to the Democrats bad.

00:48:17.000 These are puppets.

00:48:18.000 These are shields.

00:48:20.000 And another thing I found out, there's a local camera dealer, they've been in business since 1936.

00:48:26.000 They have to go out of business and he said in the newspaper, thanks to Walmart, I'm going out of business.

00:48:34.000 That Walmart Now has 36% of the commercial trade in the United States.

00:48:39.000 That's right.

00:48:40.000 Last year it was 34.

00:48:42.000 The new numbers just came out.

00:48:43.000 36%.

00:48:43.000 Yeah.

00:48:46.000 If the rest of the listeners would stay away from Walmart, pay a little bit more for the little guy.

00:48:52.000 Well, you end up paying about $10 more for, say, a $300 digital camera.

00:48:57.000 And listen, you know what Walmart does?

00:48:58.000 They go to suppliers and make them pay below cost.

00:49:02.000 Right.

00:49:03.000 And you ask how they do that, the suppliers use that to tool their factory or build out, and then they just pass it on to the little guys, and Walmart goes into a city and they say, If you want us, we're either going to build in your city, and you're going to give us 10 years of tax exemption, or we're going to build on the county line, the city does that, but then the little shops, they have to pay taxes.

00:49:26.000 Walmart would be operating at a loss, we've had experts on covering this, top antitrust lawyers, they're suing them, they'd be operating at a loss if it wasn't for their predatory practices.

00:49:39.000 There's one individual that owns seven different bakeries.

00:49:43.000 Finally, the Pennsylvania PUC came in and said, you must give a couple of them up.

00:49:50.000 Here's an example.

00:49:51.000 Take Cruise Lines.

00:49:53.000 I was reading an article about this.

00:49:54.000 Cruise Lines.

00:49:55.000 Did you know Carnival of the 14 big Cruise Lines, Carnival owns 11 of them?

00:50:00.000 No.

00:50:02.000 Then I was reading reviews of Cruises.

00:50:03.000 Once I saw it, I thought it was interesting.

00:50:04.000 I'm like, I don't like Carnival.

00:50:06.000 I'm going to go over to Princess.

00:50:09.000 It's like England. 0.73

00:50:10.000 You know, they got two different grocery store chains that have over half the market.

00:50:14.000 People don't know it's owned by the same people.

00:50:16.000 Right, right.

00:50:17.000 Again, it's the same thing with the Democrats and Republicans.

00:50:19.000 They're owned by the same people.

00:50:21.000 And when they get big like this, the products all go down in quality.

00:50:25.000 Let me tell you something.

00:50:26.000 Listen, ten years ago I could buy a cordless phone that worked for like five years.

00:50:30.000 I bought like five cordless phones the last couple years.

00:50:32.000 They break in like a month.

00:50:35.000 Everything breaks! 0.97

00:50:37.000 Pieces of garbage! 0.98

00:50:38.000 Yeah, made in China. 1.00

00:50:40.000 Thank you.

00:50:40.000 Uh-huh.

00:50:41.000 You bet. 0.98

00:50:42.000 And then even quality brand names, like Sony, have their garbage brand.

00:50:48.000 So you've got to, like, buy the... Folks, buy the expensive brand, you'll have it ten years.

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00:57:13.000 Let's talk to Rita in Illinois. 1.00

00:57:15.000 Rita, go ahead. 1.00

00:57:16.000 How are you doing, Alex?

00:57:17.000 Good, Rita.

00:57:18.000 Thank you.

00:57:19.000 And, um, you were talking earlier about, like, Limbaugh and Hannity and those other people, you know, and that one will tell you the truth, you know, 80% of the truth, and then 20% lies and vice versa.

00:57:32.000 And the one thing you mentioned Aristotle, too, and Plato, and I was wondering, are you familiar with fascism?

00:57:40.000 No, it rings a bell, but no.

00:57:41.000 I know.

00:57:42.000 It felt like it came across by accident the other day, not that long ago.

00:57:46.000 And the soccism, Aristotle wrote about it, and what it was was that he hated it.

00:57:51.000 It was logic.

00:57:52.000 The people who use logic for money. 0.98

00:57:55.000 Well, I think that would be, we've got to kill 80% of the planet because they're hurting the planet, and we'll also get to rule over them in the process. 0.99

00:58:07.000 You know, that's that sick excuse. 0.99

00:58:09.000 I would just call that rationalization.

00:58:11.000 Well, I think that, you know, their effectiveness, you know, Hannity and Franken, let's say, You know, their effect is that they're so polarized, and I think that if you could group them and profile them together in one thing, like a big wanted poster with, you know, a picture of Limbaugh, or a Limbaugh picture of Franken... Well, they're bad because they keep good conservatives in the dark.

00:58:31.000 They keep conservatives unaware of the un-American agenda of the Republicans.

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00:59:17.000 Alright, coming up, we're scheduled to have him on.

00:59:24.000 The author of No Lights, No Sirens.

00:59:28.000 Robert Seum inside a, um, well, a corrupt, uh...

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00:59:37.000 This is important to our entire society.

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00:59:42.000 Then we've got Professor David Ray Griffin with some updates on 9-11 and his take on the London bombings that he says he's suspicious of.

00:59:49.000 In the third hour, and wide open phones throughout this show, I'm also going to go back into some of the stuff we haven't covered yet with this new Supreme Court pick that is very, very bad.

00:59:59.000 Though not as bad It is true.

01:00:03.000 He is actually the lesser of two evils.

01:00:05.000 I mean, he's better than Gonzales.

01:00:07.000 At least he's been anti-abortion. 0.97

01:00:09.000 Now he's kind of getting, you know, well, I'm not going to get into that.

01:00:13.000 He's been neutral on the court.

01:00:16.000 But he's pro-police state and the secret camps and all that.

01:00:21.000 So that's coming up also.

01:00:22.000 Some new London bombing developments.

01:00:26.000 There's just so much here.

01:00:27.000 But right now, let's go to Stacey.

01:00:30.000 Stacey, where are you calling us from?

01:00:32.000 Hi Alex, I'm calling from Illinois.

01:00:34.000 Another lady from Illinois, welcome. 1.00

01:00:36.000 You're more popular today.

01:00:38.000 I was just wondering, I know that you guys have talked a lot in the past about FEMA using exercises as a cover for the day when these various terrorist attacks occur.

01:00:48.000 And I was just wondering if you've seen on the U.S.

01:00:50.000 Northern Command's website on June 29th, they posted a press release.

01:00:54.000 A drill of a nuclear attack.

01:00:56.000 That's going to take place at Charleston, South Carolina, and I was just wondering if you had any commentary on that or research into that.

01:00:56.000 Right.

01:01:05.000 Well, I mean, there's been thousands of drills, hundreds conducted by our new military dictatorship, that's what it is, NORTHCOM, North American Command, but You know, I'm not saying they're going to nuke us on that date, but I mean, all of this is... The government keeps saying, we're going to be nuked, give up all your rights.

01:01:22.000 I'm saying if a nuke does go off, the military-industrial complex is the number one suspect.

01:01:28.000 But they're telling us, no, it's going to be Al-Qaeda.

01:01:31.000 And the way they're hyping it is pretty scary.

01:01:33.000 But regardless of whether there's an attack or not, which I pray there isn't, by exposing who's behind these attacks, we may back them off.

01:01:39.000 But regardless, it still has the psychological trauma effect of scaring the public.

01:01:45.000 That's right, and actually the very first line of the press release, you know, it's all about trauma.

01:01:49.000 It says, here's the scenario, a seafaring vessel transporting a 10 kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, South Carolina.

01:01:58.000 Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it.

01:02:02.000 So, you know, it is, it's all about traumatizing us.

01:02:06.000 Well, they got systems that'll see through hundreds of feet of solid rock.

01:02:11.000 And anything highly radioactive stands out like a big red blob.

01:02:15.000 And so, you know, that is a patented fraud.

01:02:19.000 They have the ground penetrating radar that is so powerful, the declassified stuff can see several hundred feet.

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:27.000 And they got radiation detectors that are even more powerful.

01:02:31.000 Thanks for the call.

01:02:32.000 I really appreciate it.

01:02:33.000 I mean, it's just the technology is so advanced.

01:02:36.000 And by the way, I don't want to hear that, you know, suitcase nukes sold by the Russians for $2 or whatever, you know, during the early 1990s are still good. 0.61

01:02:45.000 Suitcase nukes only have about a 10-year life.

01:02:51.000 And then they stop working, folks.

01:02:53.000 Okay?

01:02:54.000 You know, nuclear weapons are very delicate.

01:02:57.000 Even though the nukes tend to be suitcase...

01:03:02.000 You know, in theater weapons, these type of munitions tend to be pretty simple compared to other, you know, devices.

01:03:10.000 It's a ball of plutonium that has a bullet of uranium fired into it.

01:03:15.000 Or is it a ball of uranium with a bullet of plutonium?

01:03:18.000 I don't know.

01:03:20.000 I get this stuff mixed up.

01:03:22.000 I mean, now we're hearing MS-13 Mexican gangs have smuggled nukes in.

01:03:26.000 I mean, that's on the nightly news.

01:03:27.000 Folks, I don't buy that for a second, okay? 0.98

01:03:29.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.98

01:03:31.000 And that is fear-mongering. 0.97

01:03:34.000 Alright, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with our scheduled guest.

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01:07:16.000 Well, the California legislature is preparing to lock up generals.

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01:07:35.000 Now that ought to scare everybody and I've been talking about this for years because I've had family involved in it and I also interviewed a lot of military people who got out of it.

01:07:43.000 It's been going on for 20 years, but it's getting bad, folks, and I wish they'd put the troops on the border where it's constitutional, instead of I go out to cover some anti-war protests and there's troops up on top, skyrises, taking photos of us!

01:07:58.000 So that's posted on InfoWars.com right now, and another headline here, FBI keeping lengthy files on groups opposed to Bush's policies.

01:08:08.000 Clinton started this, and Republicans are pulling their hair out, but now it's okay because it's the liberals.

01:08:17.000 I'm against having the military involved in our daily lives, period.

01:08:20.000 So we'll get more into that a little bit later.

01:08:22.000 I know we have loaded phones, and we're going to get into my take and your take on this Supreme Court nominee, Roberts, who almost always votes with the government and did overrule other federal judges concerning secret arrests and these kangaroo tribunals.

01:08:38.000 So it does not look good.

01:08:40.000 Looks like a Gonzales clone on that front, though he's not pro-abortion, so that makes him better That Alberto, I love Torture Gonzales, and also some new developments on the London bombing.

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01:09:48.000 Again, the book is no lights, no sirens.

01:09:50.000 And, you know, I've got some quotes and some things, uh, you know, that he said, uh, and some interviews he's done on Fox.

01:09:56.000 He'll be on Fox tonight.

01:09:57.000 He just told me during the break.

01:09:59.000 But, you know, they describe him as not being sorry for what he did.

01:10:04.000 Uh, you know, not being sorry for putting these, quote, animals in prison, but, but, but sorry for what it did to him.

01:10:11.000 Well, yeah, when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change.

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01:10:18.000 So, former New York City detective, Robert Sia, thank you for joining us.

01:10:24.000 The Fox interviews on the Laurie Dooh show at 11 o'clock Eastern Standard Time on Sunday night, not tonight.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, on the Fox channel.

01:10:30.000 Oh, Sunday night, excuse me.

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01:10:33.000 You like Laurie Dooh, huh?

01:10:35.000 I think she's a very attractive woman. 0.93

01:10:38.000 I've seen her in person.

01:10:39.000 She's not as attractive.

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01:10:42.000 I was not listening, brother.

01:10:44.000 And I never thought Ann Coulter was good looking.

01:10:46.000 I think she looks like a man. 0.60

01:10:48.000 But in person, she is frightening.

01:10:50.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:10:50.000 She's worse?

01:10:52.000 Oh, my.

01:10:52.000 I saw all these people at the RNC.

01:10:55.000 Dude, what kind of audience do we got here, man?

01:11:00.000 Because I could drop names like crazy and tell you tons of stories about them, man.

01:11:04.000 Well, I'm not dropping names.

01:11:05.000 I mean, that was just kind of a joke about Laurie, dude. 1.00

01:11:08.000 I'm kidding, man.

01:11:08.000 I know.

01:11:09.000 But seriously, I thought she was really good-looking, you know, with the teleprompter.

01:11:13.000 Sitting there with her lips all done up.

01:11:14.000 But I saw her in person.

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01:11:20.000 I'm going to shut up and get serious here.

01:11:23.000 In a nutshell, sir, tell us about your career and the things you did, you know, the dirtiest of it, and then tell us why you got out of it and why you wrote this book.

01:11:30.000 Well, the reason I wrote the book was sort of to purge myself, you know?

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01:11:56.000 Those are the sins that I committed.

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01:12:03.000 Sins I committed was bending the rules a little bit, massaging the truth a little bit, just to get them remanded and kept in prison. 0.86

01:12:12.000 Because the defense attorneys are going to do the same thing to me. 0.81

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01:12:17.000 No, testifying.

01:12:18.000 That's the line.

01:12:19.000 Yeah.

01:12:20.000 I call it life-mine.

01:12:21.000 Well, that's good.

01:12:22.000 I'll use that in my next life, man.

01:12:23.000 But the book is basically about a young guy myself.

01:12:26.000 I got onto the job as I was 20 years old, pie in the sky.

01:12:29.000 And I have an innate ability, a great ability to see somebody that does not want to be seen.

01:12:35.000 In other words, somebody carrying a pistol, coke, whatever it is, heroin.

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01:12:47.000 That's a subconscious move that he's bringing her for security.

01:12:51.000 You go after that guy.

01:12:52.000 So, that's not reasonable suspicion enough.

01:12:57.000 My ability to see these things isn't reasonable suspicion enough to go out and chase these guys and catch them with a gun.

01:13:03.000 So, my first gun collar, I remember I chased the guy.

01:13:06.000 I saw him, he tightened up.

01:13:09.000 Boom, I chased him.

01:13:10.000 Five blockers of brutal chase, brutal capture.

01:13:12.000 I hit him in the head with the back of my gun and I disarmed him with a .380 Lama.

01:13:18.000 I'll lock him up and bring him to court.

01:13:20.000 First thing the ADA asks me is, how did you make the collar?

01:13:24.000 I tell him.

01:13:24.000 He looked at me and I looked at him.

01:13:26.000 He got incredibly nervous.

01:13:27.000 I got out of the car and he ran.

01:13:28.000 I chased him.

01:13:28.000 I got him with the gun.

01:13:30.000 I disarmed him and arrested him.

01:13:32.000 He immediately scratches on the online booking report, which is the report that, you know, basically your arrest report.

01:13:37.000 Scratches it.

01:13:39.000 343s it, which means he's throwing it out of court.

01:13:41.000 And I said to him, I said, and don't forget, I'm 20 years old.

01:13:44.000 My first going to Colorado, you know, it's like a big thing.

01:13:46.000 I said, why are you throwing it out?

01:13:48.000 He said, you don't have reasonable suspicion to stop it.

01:13:50.000 You've got to develop reasonable suspicion to stop him.

01:13:53.000 So basically they can walk by if I don't see the bulge in their pocket or if I don't see... And so you learned to claim that he crossed the yellow line?

01:14:00.000 Yeah, man.

01:14:01.000 Listen, after the sixth or seventh time that happened, I always knew I was one word away from remanding this guy and putting him away.

01:14:07.000 And then after the seventh time, I said, you know what?

01:14:09.000 The hell with this.

01:14:11.000 Um, and boom, I went to court, I told them exactly the way it wasn't.

01:14:15.000 I saw it in plain view, I chased the guy, locked him up, boom.

01:14:18.000 He gets to court, he pleads out two to four years.

01:14:21.000 Well let me, before we get into the other stuff, you know, this is how you start it down this path that you cover, and no lights, no sirens, we're talking to former NYPD Detective Robert Sia.

01:14:31.000 Robert, before we get into all that, You know, this is how they corrupt young people.

01:14:35.000 This is how this starts.

01:14:37.000 This is how this, you know, goes downhill until you've got the FBI running murder for hire, you know, in Boston, which is confirmed, you know, until you get Thule, Texas, where the 58 black people, none of them have drugs, and they all get 20 to 90 years in prison.

01:14:52.000 You know, this is the road that, you know, the founding fathers put the system in place so criminals would go free, you know, So our liberties would survive.

01:15:05.000 I'm less worried about some thug with a gun than I'm worried about a corrupt centralized government not having restraints on it.

01:15:13.000 And I guess, I mean, do you have the view that I'm wrong, or what view do you have?

01:15:17.000 I have the view that you're wrong.

01:15:19.000 And listen, I believe... George Washington was wrong, okay.

01:15:24.000 Well, you know, Washington was wrong according to the streets.

01:15:28.000 You know, Washington is in their little bubble.

01:15:31.000 They don't realize... Well, take Texas. 0.99

01:15:32.000 We don't have the gun controls or our crime rates half of what it is, roughly, in New York.

01:15:37.000 And we don't have cops chasing us down because we have guns here.

01:15:40.000 Right.

01:15:40.000 I have guns all around me.

01:15:42.000 What's a homicide rate in Texas?

01:15:44.000 It's much lower.

01:15:45.000 There's big reports.

01:15:45.000 I can pull those up.

01:15:47.000 Well, they do it by city by city and the FBI says it's done state by state.

01:15:50.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

01:15:51.000 New York City, the homicide rate is down.

01:15:53.000 It's about 450.

01:15:53.000 When I was on the job, it was 2,500 a year.

01:15:55.000 Oh, I know that Chicago and New York and Detroit and places with gun... L.A.

01:16:00.000 with more gun... Statistically, you have a much higher crime rate where there's gun control.

01:16:04.000 Oh, you believe in gun control?

01:16:06.000 Do I believe in gun control?

01:16:07.000 Yeah.

01:16:08.000 Of course.

01:16:10.000 I don't believe that.

01:16:11.000 I think that somebody has the right to bear arms in his house.

01:16:15.000 But I think that they should have a permit, but I think there should be... I mean, listen.

01:16:20.000 The people that have guns in the streets are bad guys.

01:16:22.000 People that are entering your house are bad guys.

01:16:25.000 So why don't... So the cops are bad guys?

01:16:27.000 They got guns in the streets?

01:16:30.000 That's a bad analogy, man.

01:16:31.000 The cops are protecting themselves and the public with the guns against the people who have guns against them.

01:16:34.000 But we don't have a right to protect ourselves?

01:16:36.000 Of course, that's not what I'm saying.

01:16:37.000 You know, these criminals don't go into small Texas towns and... You're not hearing what I'm saying.

01:16:43.000 What I'm saying is I'm saying the public at large, I believe that someone that does not have an arrest record is allowed to have a gun.

01:16:51.000 Because the bad guys in the street who have arrest records are getting guns illegally.

01:16:57.000 Those are the guys who shouldn't have guns.

01:16:59.000 I believe that everybody should get a permit.

01:17:01.000 If you have not been convicted of a felony, if you're an upstanding citizen, why can't you have a permit?

01:17:06.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:17:07.000 Well, you've got to jump through a hundred hoops in New York to get that permit, though.

01:17:11.000 Yes and no.

01:17:12.000 I mean, it takes a while to get it, but you can get a premise permit.

01:17:14.000 What about that premise permit?

01:17:16.000 I mean, carrying a gun.

01:17:17.000 The only way you're going to be able to carry a gun is if you have a large amount of money that you take.

01:17:17.000 No.

01:17:24.000 You know, after they pass concealed carry in Texas and other areas, you get about a 25% crime rate reduction across the board.

01:17:32.000 Because criminals are afraid of it.

01:17:32.000 Right.

01:17:34.000 You've got to understand that.

01:17:36.000 There are more robberies in New York City.

01:17:37.000 Do you know how many more homicides there would be if that occurred?

01:17:40.000 And I'm just spitballing with you here.

01:17:43.000 What would occur then is, they see a guy carrying a load of cash.

01:17:46.000 They don't know he's got a gun on him.

01:17:47.000 They're going to jump him.

01:17:48.000 What's the guy with the gun going to do? 1.00

01:17:49.000 He's going to blast him and kill him. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Wonderful! 1.00

01:17:51.000 I agree.

01:17:52.000 But you know what?

01:17:52.000 I agree.

01:17:53.000 If you get 7 million people in a city, and half of those people are carrying guns and legit, and get robbed, a quarter of the people that get robbed are going to get killed.

01:18:04.000 Listen, I agree with you.

01:18:06.000 I think any perp should be, you know, the tard in court. 1.00

01:18:09.000 You know, but you're talking... No, I think about... No, no, I think if somebody runs up and tries to rob an off-duty cop, and it names a gun, the cop, the off-duty cop should pull a gun and kill him. 0.83

01:18:20.000 Because they're not safe until they do, and I think a citizen should do that too. 0.79

01:18:23.000 I agree.

01:18:24.000 I totally agree.

01:18:25.000 I'm not... We're on the same page.

01:18:28.000 Well, alright.

01:18:28.000 Trust me.

01:18:29.000 Well, I want to get into your book and, you know, some of the other things you did here.

01:18:32.000 I just, uh, kind of got sidetracked there.

01:18:34.000 But it's all important.

01:18:35.000 It's all an important discussion.

01:18:37.000 Stay with us.

01:18:37.000 Robert, see ya.

01:18:38.000 We haven't even scratched the tip of the iceberg here.

01:18:41.000 When we get back, we will, uh, get into, uh, what do you call it?

01:18:45.000 Liot?

01:18:45.000 Or test-a-lying?

01:18:47.000 Test-a-lying.

01:18:48.000 I have trouble with that one.

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01:23:05.000 I'd sworn that it would never get to me, he writes, that I'd never turn into the monsters I was chasing.

01:23:12.000 I was wrong.

01:23:14.000 I'd become a monster.

01:23:15.000 He did during his relentless journey into the criminal netherworld.

01:23:20.000 Okay, so that's the description you've got on the inside jacket of your new book.

01:23:24.000 It's getting a lot of attention, Robert.

01:23:26.000 Robert, let's get into it.

01:23:27.000 So it starts out with just making up stuff on police reports that you had probable cause.

01:23:32.000 What did it turn into?

01:23:36.000 Well, you know, we were never, ever, we never got beat in court.

01:23:41.000 And what it turned into, I mean, hundreds of cases we never got beat in court.

01:23:45.000 Now, when I say falsifying or, you know, how we did it, I would say, yeah, I, you know, I saw the guy with the gun.

01:23:51.000 I never flaked anybody, which means I never took a gun out of my pocket and put it on him.

01:23:55.000 Didn't have to.

01:23:57.000 That, to me, is a real crime.

01:23:59.000 The guys I locked up, I locked them up fair and square.

01:24:02.000 Except, uh, I just had a massage of truth a little bit.

01:24:05.000 So, what would occur is, is we were very good on stand.

01:24:08.000 Judges liked us.

01:24:10.000 Um, we were credible to the jurors.

01:24:11.000 Credible to the grand jury.

01:24:13.000 They were always true bills.

01:24:14.000 Which means that they always equate it, uh, set them to trial.

01:24:19.000 Once these guys go to trial, boom, uh, you know, they're going to plea out.

01:24:22.000 Yeah, but what would you do if it was just an old man who had a gun and acted, I mean, did you ever have cases where... Yeah, I did. 0.93

01:24:29.000 I grabbed a guy one time.

01:24:30.000 He was walking, it was late at night, about 2.30 in the morning, he was walking into a project building.

01:24:34.000 I didn't realize how old he was.

01:24:35.000 He wasn't that old.

01:24:36.000 He was like in his late 40s.

01:24:37.000 He owned a bodega.

01:24:39.000 Had a bag of cash on him, I think he's a mule. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Toss him, find a gun on him. 0.93

01:24:42.000 And I'm ready to lock him up, because I figured he's a mule, carrying a gun, you know? 1.00

01:24:47.000 It's a completely drug-prone location.

01:24:49.000 I start talking to the guy, and he pulls out his ID, and he owns a bodega.

01:24:55.000 And I realize that this guy is not a bad guy.

01:24:58.000 Is that a restaurant?

01:24:59.000 No, a bodega is like a grocery store.

01:25:03.000 It's a Spanish grocery store.

01:25:04.000 Okay, because we've got a Mexican food restaurant called Bodega.

01:25:07.000 I guess that's a play on words.

01:25:08.000 Right, right.

01:25:11.000 Um, I'm not going to lock the guy up.

01:25:13.000 I'll let him go.

01:25:14.000 You know?

01:25:14.000 I mean, he's legit.

01:25:15.000 He's a guy just trying to protect himself and his family.

01:25:17.000 Well, see, that's good.

01:25:18.000 I mean, I think that, you know, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights says that- That is a crime.

01:25:23.000 That is a crime.

01:25:24.000 Any way you cut it, it's a crime.

01:25:26.000 The crimes that I committed, um, again- Oh, it's a crime to not take- It's a crime to not- It's a crime to, because I should have locked him up.

01:25:32.000 Those laws are criminal. 0.91

01:25:34.000 It's like the Supreme Court said that black people weren't human beings.

01:25:37.000 I say that law's a fraud, and I wouldn't have followed... Look, this is the crux right here, okay?

01:25:43.000 And I understand what you're saying and how this happens, but if I was a cop and I pull over some old guy who's not doing anything wrong, I'm not going to take him to jail for having that gun.

01:25:52.000 And as you're saying, this is now the journey to evil, is not taking the old man to jail?

01:25:59.000 There's a gray area, Matt.

01:26:04.000 And there's nothing that's cut in black and white.

01:26:07.000 You have to make a field decision.

01:26:08.000 My field decision that day was to let him go.

01:26:11.000 Would I have locked him up any other time?

01:26:13.000 Probably not. 0.70

01:26:14.000 Was he a perp?

01:26:15.000 Moving drugs?

01:26:16.000 Having a pistol on him?

01:26:17.000 Or having the cash on him?

01:26:18.000 Moving cash?

01:26:18.000 He's going to jail.

01:26:20.000 Period.

01:26:22.000 Now, what about the stories we get from, you know, CERT become more famous, but I've had other famous New York detectives on over the years who, you know, as soon as they become a detective, they go, here's your gold jewelry we just took off the guy, you know, beating people up, drug dealing.

01:26:34.000 Well, they have murks, and if I had seen them, I'd lock them up.

01:26:38.000 So, so, so if cops approached you, want you to be part of something corrupt, you'd have gone after them?

01:26:43.000 Yes.

01:26:44.000 Would have I, would have I went to Internal Affairs?

01:26:46.000 No.

01:26:47.000 No matter what, they're going to go, I'm not the type of guy that I was.

01:26:50.000 Okay, but how do you stop criminal police?

01:26:52.000 Let me finish.

01:26:53.000 If they are involved in any criminal activity, Internal Affairs is going to get them.

01:26:57.000 They don't need me to call them up and become a rat on them, who are turning my career upside down.

01:27:02.000 They're going to get caught anyway.

01:27:03.000 If they want me to be involved in something, I wouldn't do it.

01:27:05.000 That's not my gig.

01:27:06.000 My wife was a very wealthy woman.

01:27:10.000 I didn't need money.

01:27:11.000 I was never strapped for money.

01:27:13.000 And that's not what I went on the job for.

01:27:16.000 You say you've got this incredible snout for criminals, and if you've got that snout, I mean, you've got to know there's a lot of corrupt cops, especially in the higher echelons.

01:27:27.000 Or, I mean, New York City, give me a break.

01:27:30.000 Well, back in the day, that was the truth.

01:27:32.000 When I was on the job, it was the truth.

01:27:33.000 There was a lot of guys that were committing organized corruption.

01:27:40.000 Now, it's a lot different these days.

01:27:42.000 A lot different.

01:27:44.000 You know, the crime is down.

01:27:45.000 Drugs are down here.

01:27:48.000 People aren't running wild in the street.

01:27:49.000 It was a wild, wild west when I was on the job, man.

01:27:51.000 My book tells it all.

01:27:53.000 So, you know, and I gotta tell you, I wasn't that privy to that kind of corruption.

01:27:59.000 But, you know, guys stayed away from us because we were insane.

01:28:02.000 Cops stayed away from us because they knew who we were and they didn't want to get jammed up.

01:28:06.000 They could not... Our motto was, if you're gonna lead, lead.

01:28:12.000 If you're going to follow, follow.

01:28:13.000 If you're not going to do either one of the two, step out of the way.

01:28:17.000 And that's what we did, man.

01:28:19.000 We led.

01:28:20.000 We were number one and number two in arrest in New York City.

01:28:23.000 But you've got to do that in a context of the bigger picture, Detective.

01:28:28.000 We're going to come right back.

01:28:29.000 We'll talk more about your books.

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01:31:50.000 You know, I'm going to be honest with our guest, former New York detective Robert Sia, with one of the biggest former New York detective Robert Sia, with one of the biggest hot dog records out there, you know, really slamming the criminals into the system and, you know, putting them behind That all sounds great,

01:32:19.000 But back when this country was a stickler for detail, we had a much lower crime rate.

01:32:24.000 Obviously, we culturally hadn't degenerated to the level of demonic monkeys yet.

01:32:30.000 You know, the advent of TV and violence on television in the 1950s, the graph of violent crime just explodes from that point because, you know, we are creatures of what we see.

01:32:42.000 Social creatures.

01:32:43.000 But I don't want to get off into the sociology and psychology of that. 0.95

01:32:46.000 But, you know, corrupt cops, you know what you got. 0.95

01:32:50.000 You know, like they are in Mexico.

01:32:52.000 But you've also got these go-getter police out there that will do whatever it takes to get the bad guys.

01:33:01.000 But then I have questions about, you know, who are the bad guys?

01:33:03.000 You know, I have... I say decriminalize drugs, because just like with prohibition, it caused crime to explode.

01:33:10.000 It energized organized crime and corrupted the police.

01:33:14.000 I say, the war on drugs is better than ever.

01:33:16.000 We got more drugs than ever, more people in prison than ever.

01:33:20.000 Of course, the people that are involved in illegal drugs are usually pretty bad people, but they'd be involved in some other racket.

01:33:26.000 They're bad because they're bad people.

01:33:28.000 And now we've given them a huge business, Uh, to make a lot of money out of, and an excuse for this police to be snooping around in our lives.

01:33:37.000 Uh, you know, bottom line, that's my view on this, and I think these go-getter, gung-ho, military, police, you name it, in many cases are more dangerous, uh, than just some, uh, schlub, uh, you know, who's just out there trying to get his paycheck writing parking tickets.

01:33:54.000 And, you know, that's where I stand, uh, Robert Sia.

01:33:57.000 Uh, what do you say to that?

01:34:00.000 Legalizing drugs.

01:34:01.000 Let's go to that one.

01:34:02.000 Do you know how much of a Jones you get when you, um, when you bang one, uh, syringe of heroin?

01:34:10.000 No, never used it.

01:34:11.000 Okay.

01:34:12.000 You get a Jones so bad that if you don't get another hit within 24 hours, your body wretches.

01:34:19.000 Now, let me finish.

01:34:20.000 Let me finish.

01:34:20.000 So they want to bust in our houses.

01:34:22.000 Let me finish.

01:34:22.000 That makes no sense.

01:34:23.000 Let me finish.

01:34:25.000 Now, where do you think this guy is going to get the money to get another hit of heroin?

01:34:31.000 He's going to break into my house.

01:34:32.000 That's right.

01:34:33.000 I'm going to legalize drugs.

01:34:34.000 All legalizing drugs is you're changing one crime for another crime.

01:34:40.000 That's what you're doing.

01:34:41.000 That's exactly what you're doing.

01:34:44.000 You've got to do a cost-benefit analysis.

01:34:47.000 Listen, all due respect, I think you're completely wrong.

01:34:50.000 So we have triple the heroin, double the cocaine we did 10 years ago, 7 million people in the system, and it's corrupted our police, and it's broken really well.

01:35:00.000 How's it corrupting your police?

01:35:02.000 Look at the statistics on corruption.

01:35:02.000 Oh, man.

01:35:05.000 And you can say that's because of more prosecution.

01:35:06.000 It's out of control.

01:35:07.000 What's out of control?

01:35:09.000 Man, I can... Houston, Texas, the crime lab framed over 2,000 people.

01:35:12.000 Tulia, Texas, 58 black people, no criminal records framed.

01:35:15.000 Dallas, Texas, throwing bags of chalk in the backs of cars in an acid forfeiture seizure.

01:35:20.000 Police all over the country every week getting caught dealing drugs.

01:35:24.000 I mean, you've got to be kidding.

01:35:25.000 You know what?

01:35:27.000 That doesn't happen in New York.

01:35:31.000 Oh, man.

01:35:31.000 Give me statistics in New York.

01:35:33.000 Well, if you want, I'll actually pull all those and have you back up sometime.

01:35:36.000 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 I'd love for you to do it.

01:35:37.000 I would.

01:35:38.000 I'd love for you to do it.

01:35:38.000 I know off the top of my head that, you know, New York has a higher crime rate than any Texas city.

01:35:46.000 The homicides here in New York City in 7 million people is 450.

01:35:49.000 Give me 7 million people.

01:35:51.000 Put 7 million people.

01:35:52.000 Give me all your states in Texas.

01:35:54.000 Will you have less than $450?

01:35:55.000 Well, I know the National Crime Stat... You know, it's kind of like... I know, that's... I'm... Don't... I was going to tell you... Don't... Listen... Just answer the question.

01:36:02.000 Do you have more than 400,000 comments on all of them?

01:36:04.000 Well, you're posing a falsely framed question, so I'm not going to answer it.

01:36:10.000 Why is it falsely framed?

01:36:11.000 Well, number one, claiming I'm not answering a question is a legal tactic to create the illusion that I'm not answering a question.

01:36:19.000 Okay?

01:36:19.000 I won't answer it the way you want me to answer it.

01:36:21.000 Let's just talk about my book, man.

01:36:21.000 You know what?

01:36:22.000 Now, hold on a second.

01:36:23.000 I won't answer the false question you asked.

01:36:25.000 I will answer the question.

01:36:27.000 Okay.

01:36:28.000 The answer is, New York is in the top 10 cities, uh, you know, period, not per population, period, per capita, for the highest crime rate.

01:36:38.000 Certainly it may have gone down some, because most of the people, you know, are dead who were on the crack epidemic of the 80s, but still we have a high crime level.

01:36:46.000 You're wrong.

01:36:47.000 It's not in the top 10.

01:36:49.000 You're wrong.

01:36:50.000 I just saw those statistics a few weeks ago.

01:36:52.000 I don't know where you saw them, but you're wrong.

01:36:54.000 I know it used to be the capital of crime, now... Yeah, and when I was a cop... Now Chicago has that crown.

01:36:59.000 Detroit, Chicago, Washington D.C.

01:37:02.000 are the top three.

01:37:03.000 Yeah, I know.

01:37:05.000 New York City does not play within that top ten.

01:37:07.000 But it used to.

01:37:08.000 Of course.

01:37:09.000 But I'm still saying, I mean, just look, it's like if somebody's on Mount Everest, the tallest peak in the world, and then New York is on the next peak, you know, and it's a thousand feet lower, I mean, you're still on top of a mountain, brother.

01:37:21.000 Bro, the United States is a dangerous place.

01:37:25.000 Show me one place that doesn't have a high crime rate.

01:37:27.000 Give me one.

01:37:27.000 Other than Idaho.

01:37:30.000 Well, all these big cities trying to bring in gun control and the criminals gravitate towards that because it's a feeding ground of gullible immigrants and other castrated populations that don't have a history of defending themselves. 1.00

01:37:44.000 And your point is?

01:37:45.000 My point is that you need to make... Look, I want to go back to what I was just bringing up before we got all off into guns again.

01:37:52.000 I mean, everybody knows more guns means less crime.

01:37:55.000 That's just the statistics.

01:37:57.000 Uh, and, and a bunch of different professors have done the math on that.

01:38:00.000 But, but what I'm trying to... More guns in the street?

01:38:02.000 For the perks?

01:38:03.000 You mean less crime?

01:38:04.000 Guns, uh, criminals aren't going to follow the law, do I have to tell you that?

01:38:07.000 Exactly!

01:38:09.000 So, all you do is make it a happy hunting ground for them against us.

01:38:12.000 But you're telling me that my tactics are illegal and I shouldn't be doing those tactics to get those guys with the guns?

01:38:19.000 That's your, that's your point!

01:38:21.000 And it's the wrong call.

01:38:22.000 Oh, totally.

01:38:23.000 I fear a government violating rights more than I fear a perp with a gun.

01:38:28.000 You do?

01:38:29.000 Yeah, because I live in Texas.

01:38:30.000 So when you're in a dark alley, let me make it out.

01:38:32.000 When you're in a dark alley one night, and you see this guy walking towards you with his hand in his pocket, and he's going to walk towards you, do you think your government is going to back you up, or a guy like me is going to come down there and disarm that alley?

01:38:45.000 I was in Dallas when I was about 16.

01:38:46.000 I had to drive into Dallas to buy beer, because the beer joints would sell you beer, even if you were underage.

01:38:51.000 And somebody walked up and pulled a gun on me, and I took the gun out of his hand, and I knocked his teeth out, and I rammed his head up against the wall, and the police came and took him to jail.

01:38:59.000 What if there were three guys with guns?

01:39:01.000 Would you do the same thing?

01:39:02.000 Well, no.

01:39:02.000 The time the four guys came up with knives, I didn't do that.

01:39:05.000 I did something else.

01:39:07.000 But the point here is that I am more fearful of Adolf Hitler and gun control... Of what? 0.72

01:39:14.000 Adolf Hitler and gun control? 0.63

01:39:16.000 Why are you bringing Adolf Hitler into this discussion?

01:39:17.000 Because Hitler was for gun control and gun control is bad. 0.79

01:39:24.000 Okay.

01:39:25.000 It's simple.

01:39:28.000 Listen, I don't have an argument with you about gun control.

01:39:29.000 I don't.

01:39:31.000 I don't.

01:39:31.000 You're trying to bait me into saying that I do have enough, that I am for gun control.

01:39:35.000 I just know so many New Yorkers who never were armed.

01:39:37.000 But I'm not.

01:39:38.000 I'm a Republican from New York.

01:39:40.000 You understand?

01:39:41.000 I'm a New York City detective.

01:39:42.000 I'm number five in decorations.

01:39:45.000 I am not for gun control.

01:39:47.000 What I'm trying to tell you is I know so many New Yorkers who are friends of mine who cower in fear because they were brought up hating guns.

01:39:55.000 They were brought up.

01:39:56.000 They don't even know how to go get them.

01:39:57.000 Yeah, well they're the same people.

01:39:58.000 They're both Hillary Clinton. 0.90

01:40:00.000 So?

01:40:00.000 Well, actually, one of them's a Republican.

01:40:02.000 And she towers in fear behind her burglar bars, hoping no one comes and gets her.

01:40:06.000 Why doesn't she have a gun? 0.99

01:40:08.000 Why is it they're a New York program?

01:40:09.000 She probably could have a gun. 1.00

01:40:10.000 She goes, or she could go to the New York precinct and get a premise permit. 0.98

01:40:15.000 Everybody can.

01:40:16.000 You're allowed to get guns in New York.

01:40:17.000 So the Second Amendment is about a privilege, a permission slip?

01:40:20.000 I'm sorry?

01:40:21.000 It's not a permission slip.

01:40:23.000 You apply for a gun permit.

01:40:25.000 Just like I apply now to stand on the street corner and stand on a soapbox.

01:40:29.000 I didn't used to have to do that.

01:40:31.000 You can apply in New York State for a gun permit.

01:40:34.000 If you have no felony record, you will get a gun permit, a premise permit, to guard your house.

01:40:39.000 Sixth Amendment.

01:40:41.000 Yes?

01:40:41.000 A lot of people... I read articles where they get refused them all the time.

01:40:45.000 They have records.

01:40:47.000 You can't have a criminal record.

01:40:49.000 And they're probably applying for a carry permit.

01:40:53.000 That they won't do.

01:40:55.000 Unless you carry money or you have people after you.

01:40:58.000 Florida passed a concealed carry.

01:41:00.000 Anybody can get a premise permit in New York State if they do not have a felony.

01:41:03.000 And the general violent crime rate went down by 25% in two years.

01:41:07.000 I'm sorry?

01:41:08.000 Florida passed a concealed carry and their crime rate went down by 25%.

01:41:12.000 That's great.

01:41:14.000 Texas did the same thing and we got even bigger numbers out of it.

01:41:16.000 Listen, if they're a law abiding citizen, you cannot Again, if it worked in Texas, great.

01:41:22.000 That will not work in New York.

01:41:24.000 Who's the famous guy who blew the guys away on the subway?

01:41:30.000 So you're against him defending himself?

01:41:37.000 Yeah, what the hell is his name?

01:41:40.000 It isn't.

01:41:41.000 Yeah, it happened in 1984.

01:41:43.000 Shot the four guys.

01:41:44.000 Yeah, good. 0.99

01:41:46.000 Makes my family safer.

01:41:47.000 No lights, no sirens, the corruption and redemption of an inner-city cop.

01:41:51.000 Just quickly, because I want to take some calls, what are some other things you did in this journey, which you're not sad for putting them in jail, but you're saying it hurt you.

01:41:59.000 I mean, if you had it over to do again, Detective Sia, would you do it again?

01:42:04.000 100%.

01:42:05.000 So you're not really sorry?

01:42:06.000 No.

01:42:07.000 I'm sorry for what occurred to me and my family.

01:42:10.000 I'm sorry.

01:42:11.000 I'm sorry that my wife, who was three months pregnant with my baby, she, you know, I was looking at 30 years in jail because I was accused of killing my confidential informant, which I did not do.

01:42:21.000 I became catatonic and my poor wife, who did not get more than five words out of me in six months, aborted my baby because she felt the only reason I was with her was for the baby.

01:42:36.000 Which wasn't true.

01:42:36.000 I was in love with her, but I was just catatonic behind going to jail for 30 years.

01:42:40.000 You know, sir, you can... Look, I feel good about myself.

01:42:44.000 I don't have problems with sleeping at night.

01:42:47.000 I mean, I have energy.

01:42:49.000 I don't have that hole in my heart.

01:42:50.000 And I've talked to so many people like you who make excuses for this type of stuff, and I'm telling you, you're not looking at the system itself having problems.

01:42:58.000 I mean, would you enforce any law that was out there when it was the law that blacks were slaves?

01:43:03.000 Would you have enforced that? 0.76

01:43:07.000 For blacks to be slaves? 0.90

01:43:08.000 Yeah, that was the law. 0.94

01:43:10.000 What if I enforced it?

01:43:11.000 Yeah!

01:43:12.000 No.

01:43:12.000 Well, okay, then I'm telling you that gun control is just as unconstitutional as saying that, you know, Big John has to stay in the barn.

01:43:23.000 Okay, I agree with you.

01:43:25.000 All right, well then we don't... Look, and then I kind of feel confused here at one point.

01:43:29.000 I mean, I would let the old man go who had the gun.

01:43:31.000 And I did.

01:43:32.000 You did the same thing, and that would be breaking the law.

01:43:34.000 But I say, leaning on the side... Actually, you judge the facts as well as the case as a juror.

01:43:40.000 Juries really have the power to say, well, you know what, this guy did break the law, but we're letting him go because, you know, in this case he... So, you know, I don't think that so much is bad.

01:43:48.000 What I do think doing is the lying on the stand to get somebody's dangerous, because then cops get so used to it, I've seen police lie on stand, because I've gone and covered these things, just because they think the person's bad.

01:44:02.000 And they don't have any evidence of what they're saying.

01:44:05.000 And they're doing it to enforce some law that I think is unconstitutional.

01:44:09.000 How do you know they're lying on the stand?

01:44:11.000 Oh, that's a whole other long story.

01:44:14.000 You know, you're good at throwing little hints out there, but you cannot back it up with truth.

01:44:20.000 Oh, I can back it up.

01:44:21.000 We just don't have all day.

01:44:22.000 Okay, you want to hear an example?

01:44:24.000 No, I don't.

01:44:25.000 I want to talk about my book.

01:44:27.000 I want to talk about my book.

01:44:28.000 Okay, I know.

01:44:29.000 You want to sell that book, don't you?

01:44:30.000 If you don't mind, I do.

01:44:32.000 Alright, well, let's take some calls here.

01:44:34.000 I know a lot of these callers are for you, some aren't.

01:44:39.000 We'll go to Reuben, Robert, Tim, Tom and others.

01:44:41.000 Right now, Will in Missouri.

01:44:43.000 Will, you're on the air with an interesting character.

01:44:48.000 Yes, well thank you for taking my call, Alex.

01:44:50.000 I have a question for the guest specifically in regard to a thought that has come through my mind all through the years and perhaps Robert would answer it.

01:45:00.000 There's a certain babysitter mentality and that's the key word that I use in my mind that gets people on the job Uh, to be an officer, or to feel like they have something, uh, some particular duty or some desire to... It's Billy Bad Butt Disease!

01:45:16.000 Well, I call it the babysitter mentality, so maybe Robert would address that, and I appreciate that.

01:45:21.000 Well, last night I was talking to a cop, I walked into a restaurant to eat something after my TV show, and this...

01:45:27.000 I've been a senior cop a number of years and he goes, Alex, the problem is we treat the public like the bad 5% and after you deal with the bad 5% you either become the bad 5% or you treat everybody like the bad 5% and you know that's you know that's it. 0.71

01:45:42.000 I'm tired of being treated like the bad 5% and all I do is speed and I don't even really do that anymore so I want to be left alone okay and statistically cops are more dirty than the general public so if they don't have any business you know Is that your phone there, Will, beeping?

01:46:00.000 No, it's mine.

01:46:01.000 My battery's low.

01:46:02.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

01:46:03.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

01:46:03.000 Comment on that, Detective. 0.94

01:46:07.000 Just explain the question to me one more time because I'm a little confused because you jumped in.

01:46:11.000 Well, it's very simple.

01:46:12.000 It's just simply the baby-sitter mentality.

01:46:15.000 Do you think that we're servants of the government and the government is the authorities, the officials?

01:46:22.000 I think that, um, I think that, um, The government, it is a babysitter mentality.

01:46:29.000 I think that my mentality, my objective was to clean up the area where I worked.

01:46:35.000 And by doing that, I babysat the good people that lived in the area.

01:46:40.000 Well, how about raising strong people like we used to be?

01:46:43.000 Because when we went to war, people started to want us.

01:46:44.000 Then you wouldn't need cops.

01:46:46.000 I agree.

01:46:46.000 Well, you wouldn't need as many.

01:46:48.000 You always need some.

01:46:49.000 And you need to have a large sheriff's department.

01:46:51.000 Police departments didn't exist until New York invented them.

01:46:55.000 Did you know that, Detective?

01:46:57.000 Yes, I did.

01:46:57.000 Yeah.

01:46:58.000 Didn't exist until what, like the 1870s or something?

01:47:03.000 Well, no.

01:47:04.000 There were police, there were constables in New York since 1640.

01:47:08.000 Well, yeah, I said police departments.

01:47:11.000 You had sheriff's departments, and then the first police department, they actually hired one of the gangs to run it.

01:47:19.000 Oh, very nice.

01:47:22.000 And do you know why police wear a blue uniform, Detective Sia?

01:47:25.000 Tell me.

01:47:25.000 That is designed off of the Praetorian Guard's blue.

01:47:29.000 That's admitted.

01:47:30.000 Right.

01:47:31.000 Oh, you did know that?

01:47:32.000 No, I didn't know that, but they don't wear... Fort Worth does not wear a blue uniform.

01:47:37.000 Florida does not wear a blue uniform.

01:47:39.000 I know, we should go back to that.

01:47:41.000 These black outfits with the combat boots are scary.

01:47:45.000 You know that's for intimidation.

01:47:46.000 I have police handbooks that say it.

01:47:47.000 Say that again?

01:47:52.000 You know, the black ski mask and all that.

01:47:53.000 You gotta admit that's for intimidation.

01:47:56.000 Who's wearing black ski masks?

01:47:58.000 You know, the Special Forces Police.

01:48:00.000 SWAT.

01:48:01.000 Special Weapons Attack Teams.

01:48:03.000 And God bless them.

01:48:05.000 Oh, you don't deny Special Weapons Attack Teams is the real name.

01:48:08.000 They just gave Special Weapons and Tactics to fool the public.

01:48:10.000 Are you aware of that?

01:48:13.000 The SWAT stands for Special Weapons Attack, yes.

01:48:16.000 Nope, Darryl Gates who invented it says it's Special Weapons Attack Teams.

01:48:20.000 Let's talk to Reuben in Ohio.

01:48:21.000 Reuben, you're on the air with our guest.

01:48:22.000 Go ahead, Reuben, quickly.

01:48:25.000 Reuben, go ahead!

01:48:26.000 Yeah, I'm going.

01:48:28.000 This guy just doesn't understand what America's about.

01:48:31.000 There was a movie called Star Chamber where the people would take the law into their own hands and it never works out.

01:48:37.000 This is the wrong way to go about the criminal justice system.

01:48:41.000 And the fact that you're catatonic for so many years should tell you, you know?

01:48:44.000 And now you want to capitalize by writing a book?

01:48:47.000 Can I answer that?

01:48:49.000 Go ahead, please.

01:48:50.000 First of all, I wasn't catatonic for years.

01:48:52.000 I was catatonic when I was looking at 30 years in jail.

01:48:55.000 That's when I was catatonic.

01:48:57.000 Today I live my life peacefully and I do sleep very well at night.

01:49:02.000 But what was your second part of that question or your statement?

01:49:05.000 He says you're profiting off of your activities.

01:49:09.000 Well, why not?

01:49:10.000 I went through hell.

01:49:11.000 Why can't I write about it?

01:49:13.000 Why is it okay for President Clinton to write about his life, but it's not okay for me to write about my life?

01:49:19.000 No, I think it's okay for you to write about it.

01:49:20.000 I don't think it's okay for Reuben to point it out.

01:49:22.000 There you go.

01:49:23.000 But look, here's the point.

01:49:25.000 How many cops are corrupt? 0.84

01:49:26.000 Okay, so just because you bang a few heads and lie on the stand doesn't give you a right to make a nickel off of that.

01:49:34.000 You're right, but what I'm not apologizing, and I am not, listen, I don't apologize for myself for what I did in the book.

01:49:40.000 What I'm saying in the book is exactly what happened.

01:49:43.000 How many other cops are like you out there?

01:49:45.000 How many?

01:49:46.000 Yeah.

01:49:47.000 We'll be right back.

01:49:47.000 Oh, I have no idea.

01:49:48.000 We'll be right back.

01:49:49.000 Stay with us.

01:49:49.000 Everybody stay there.

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01:52:50.000 That's Detective Sia, retired New York detective.

01:52:58.000 Written this new book, No Lights, No Sirens.

01:53:01.000 He really ought to talk to Jack McClam, the most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history.

01:53:06.000 Cop of the year twice.

01:53:07.000 Who found out about all the government corruption and drug dealing and the rest of it and went public.

01:53:12.000 And, uh, you know, he even taught at the police academy, you name it. 1.00

01:53:15.000 And they teach him, you're the babysitter, the people are basically a bunch of idiots. 1.00

01:53:19.000 And he learned what a fraud that was. 1.00

01:53:21.000 And, uh, Talking to Mr. Seider in the break, he's going, look, you know, I just twisted the law to get bad guys.

01:53:26.000 Well, where does that end?

01:53:28.000 And he said, well, the laws are written for the criminals.

01:53:30.000 The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing. 0.99

01:53:35.000 Because they knew the greater threat of government tyranny and government crime is much greater than the average scumbag. 0.99

01:53:42.000 And, of course, back then everybody was armed, and scumbags, people didn't put up with scumbags for very long. 0.99

01:53:48.000 I mean, they would hang on high. 0.98

01:53:50.000 So, you know, it's a societal de-evolution.

01:53:53.000 I want to try to jam a call or two in here at the end, but folks, you can find the book, obviously, at most of your bookstores, and we've got a link to it on InfoWars.com.

01:54:01.000 It might be an interesting read for you.

01:54:04.000 Let's talk to Tom in Pennsylvania.

01:54:06.000 Last caller we have time for with our guest, Robert Sia.

01:54:10.000 Go ahead, Tom.

01:54:12.000 Hey Robert.

01:54:12.000 Hey Alex.

01:54:13.000 Hey man.

01:54:14.000 I'm retired from the job.

01:54:14.000 Go ahead.

01:54:15.000 I started out... Yes, you just said, hey man, and then you're not talking.

01:54:18.000 Hey, can you hear me?

01:54:19.000 No, that was me.

01:54:20.000 Okay, alright.

01:54:20.000 I said, hey man.

01:54:21.000 Tom, are you there?

01:54:21.000 Hi.

01:54:22.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:54:23.000 Okay, let Tom go.

01:54:26.000 Robert!

01:54:26.000 Go ahead, call her!

01:54:27.000 Hello, Robert, I'm retired.

01:54:29.000 Let that caller go.

01:54:29.000 He's not there.

01:54:30.000 He's there.

01:54:31.000 I'm listening to him.

01:54:31.000 Go ahead.

01:54:32.000 They got the phone all jacked with.

01:54:34.000 I'm here.

01:54:34.000 Can you hear me?

01:54:35.000 I'm from the 79th Precinct.

01:54:37.000 I apologize, sir.

01:54:38.000 They didn't have my audio turned up.

01:54:41.000 We're talking.

01:54:41.000 I work in the 79 Narcotics.

01:54:42.000 What's up, guys?

01:54:43.000 Okay, I was there.

01:54:44.000 I was there when it was on Gates and Troop back in 68.

01:54:46.000 I finished up in the 122 Precinct.

01:54:49.000 In between, I was everywhere, you name it, including narcotics.

01:54:52.000 Hey, did they have a screen door in the 122 precinct?

01:54:54.000 Is that true?

01:54:55.000 Yes, it's true!

01:54:56.000 That was Country City.

01:54:58.000 Hey, by the way, I'm going to buy your book.

01:54:59.000 Thanks, man.

01:55:00.000 But I have to tell you that there's a couple of things I just want to bring out to the folks.

01:55:06.000 First up is Bernie Getz, who killed those people.

01:55:08.000 That's right, Bernie Getz.

01:55:09.000 Great, he's a hero.

01:55:10.000 Number two, the stats as far as criminal statistics.

01:55:13.000 You and I both know, Bob, that those things are fudged.

01:55:17.000 I mean, there is no way we know the amount of crime in any given place during any given year.

01:55:24.000 Right.

01:55:24.000 I mean, I was in the 79th, and we used to get waved down by people.

01:55:27.000 We used to wave back and say hello like they were being kind to us because we couldn't stop.

01:55:31.000 Well, what about the captains, what the captains were doing?

01:55:34.000 They were changing robberies to burglaries.

01:55:35.000 Of course, the whole thing was fudged.

01:55:37.000 But this Mr. Jones doesn't get that.

01:55:39.000 No, Alex does.

01:55:40.000 That's what I'm trying to get at.

01:55:42.000 Alex gets it.

01:55:43.000 What I'm trying to tell you is that it's going to take a little time for you to see what we're trying to bring to people.

01:55:50.000 Alex gets the whole picture.

01:55:51.000 It's a larger picture.

01:55:53.000 When I was on the job, and I was like you, I was a Republican, once you get rid of a certain mindset, you'll understand what Alex is bringing to the people, and it's extremely important.

01:56:06.000 Number two, about gun permits, you and I both know the average Joe can't get one.

01:56:11.000 You either have to know somebody, be the rabbi. 0.89

01:56:14.000 Let's face it, the average person can't get a carry permit in the city.

01:56:18.000 No, but they can get a premise permit.

01:56:20.000 But they deserve a carry permit.

01:56:22.000 I agree.

01:56:23.000 I agree.

01:56:23.000 Okay, good.

01:56:24.000 But do you also agree that in a city like New York, it would be bedlam if everybody had permits?

01:56:30.000 If decent people had them, I'd be thrilled.

01:56:33.000 I'll tell you the truth, they saved my butt many a time, a guy with a carry permit.

01:56:39.000 Right.

01:56:40.000 I mean, they were my best friends on a number of occasions.

01:56:43.000 So what I say is that the City of New York is restricting the people's rights in terms of carry permits.

01:56:50.000 It is just because you carry a lot of money, that doesn't get you a gun and the decent people deserve to have one just like we do.

01:56:56.000 Right.

01:56:57.000 And the last thing I wanted to say is that you and I both know if during our careers we were followed by anybody, the things we did, we'd all be in jail.

01:57:09.000 Yeah.

01:57:10.000 How many times have we said that, retired guy?

01:57:12.000 Well, listen, you know, that's a big part of my book.

01:57:15.000 It said the FBI had placed the plant on me, and they had him dealing drugs with my informant.

01:57:21.000 And that's a big part of this book.

01:57:23.000 Well, tell you what, do five more minutes with us.

01:57:27.000 Robert, see you on the other side so we can finish up your points.

01:57:29.000 And then we got Professor David Ray Griffin coming up.

01:57:33.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

01:57:38.000 Introducing... Big Brother.

01:57:38.000 376 45 Introduce Big Brother mainstream media government cover-ups You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 I don't listen to what politicians say.

01:58:10.000 I look at what they do.

01:58:12.000 And both parties are identical and owned by the same global crime syndicates.

01:58:17.000 They're turning America into a police state.

01:58:20.000 They're dismantling the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:58:23.000 I'm not anti-government.

01:58:25.000 I'm anti the corporate criminals that have taken control of our government and are basically remaking it into their image.

01:58:31.000 You know, they say patriotism is worshipping the government blindly.

01:58:36.000 All the founding fathers told us.

01:58:38.000 All the Greek philosophers told us.

01:58:39.000 All common sense told us is don't give up your liberty, you'll get tyranny, you won't get security.

01:58:45.000 And, uh, you know, if you ask for people to take care of you, they will turn into mafia.

01:58:50.000 They will abuse you.

01:58:51.000 Maybe not the first generation, or the fourth generation, but over time, they will become corrupt.

01:58:56.000 Tom in Pennsylvania, retired NYPD police officer, talking to Robert Sia, retired detective, about his book, No Lights, No Sirens.

01:59:03.000 You guys finish up your discussion.

01:59:05.000 Anything you wanted to say, Robert Sia?

01:59:08.000 Uh, I was saying that I got cut off.

01:59:11.000 I forgot what I was saying.

01:59:12.000 Well, Robert, Robert, I also agree with you and you're talking about your testimony in front of the grand jury and such and you're coming clean and you're trying to explain to everybody the way it actually is on the street.

01:59:28.000 That's right.

01:59:28.000 And I think that hasn't been totally uh... represented but i think i get it but here's the problem let me just say something you gotta understand i did not work in a pretty middle-class area i worked in the ghetto where everyone carried guns all i wanted to do and all i had to do with lock up these guys who were carrying pistols now if the law is built for these guys carrying guns then the people the good people like us the three of us right now are unsafe

01:59:56.000 I took the streets back for the people, for the kids who never had summer vacations because they weren't allowed out of there.

02:00:02.000 I understand, under the fraudulent system, you did, you know, something that at a certain level helped, but that's what I'm saying, the system itself is wrong.

02:00:12.000 And I agree, it's broke, the system is broke.

02:00:14.000 Totally right.

02:00:15.000 And I agree, the system is broke and that is what the book is about.

02:00:19.000 How I took it back, I made over 500 felony arrests.

02:00:22.000 I incarcerated guys over 100,000 years.

02:00:23.000 You know why?

02:00:26.000 Because I twisted it.

02:00:28.000 I had to do it to make it work.

02:00:29.000 Of course.

02:00:30.000 Hey, look, I know exactly what you're saying.

02:00:32.000 We all did.

02:00:33.000 We all did.

02:00:34.000 And that's exactly what your book is about.

02:00:36.000 But what I'm telling you is, I see people having their land taken, or people being framed by corrupt groups of internal police that work for these corporations, and then I watch them lie on the stand.

02:00:48.000 See, it starts out, you know, we're going to twist it so this rapist goes down.

02:00:52.000 I mean, if I was a cop, I might do that.

02:00:53.000 You know, if I knew he did it.

02:00:55.000 But then we get innocent people, DNA's now showing out on death row, that you cannot start doing evil things in the name of good.

02:01:02.000 It will only turn into evil down the line.

02:01:05.000 I mean, the Bible says that, common sense says that.

02:01:08.000 Aren't you guys aware of that rule?

02:01:09.000 First of all, you know, when I... I never...

02:01:15.000 In a case where there are 40 homicide detectives working a homicide, there's no way in America that you could falsify a case like that.

02:01:22.000 It's not going to happen in New York City.

02:01:24.000 It will not occur in New York City.

02:01:26.000 I promise you that.

02:01:27.000 It may happen in some bum, you know, some town in the middle of the country.

02:01:32.000 In New York, it doesn't happen.

02:01:33.000 It can't.

02:01:34.000 It cannot happen.

02:01:36.000 What I did was a one-on-one singular case.

02:01:40.000 Case by case.

02:01:41.000 You know, I don't buy that to say in New York nobody's ever been falsely imprisoned for murder.

02:01:46.000 I mean, comments on that, Tom?

02:01:48.000 Well, no, for sure they have.

02:01:49.000 There's no question about it.

02:01:50.000 I mean, it's the slippery slope argument.

02:01:52.000 Once you begin... Myself and you, Robert, stopped at some point because we were after bad guys.

02:01:59.000 Right.

02:01:59.000 But there's no question.

02:02:01.000 That there are some psychopaths on the job. 0.98

02:02:03.000 Smart criminals, and then they go right to chief.

02:02:06.000 Well, I don't know where they go to, but I'll tell you what happens.

02:02:09.000 They do B.F.

02:02:10.000 and they do get people who are legitimate locked up for long periods of time for whatever.

02:02:15.000 Look, I've had corrupt cops tell me, you know, back when I was in high school and I was shooting my mouth off about the sheriff dealing drugs, which he went to prison for in Rockwall, Texas.

02:02:25.000 And I had a cop, the sheriff deputy say, look, we're going to frame you, punk.

02:02:29.000 And I was a good kid.

02:02:31.000 Gentlemen, I want to thank you both for coming on.

02:02:33.000 Thank you Alex.

02:02:34.000 I want to thank you both.

02:02:35.000 Robert, see you, and Tom calling in.

02:02:37.000 God bless you guys.

02:02:39.000 Okay guys, thanks.

02:02:40.000 Take care, bye.

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02:05:54.000 Alright, I have this former New York City detective on who doesn't apologize for lying on the stand about people.

02:06:00.000 And you heard all his excuses.

02:06:02.000 I don't think he's really an evil person. 1.00

02:06:05.000 Uh, he's ignorant. 0.66

02:06:07.000 He's also more dangerous than just outright criminal cops because the globalists count on all these well-meaning people that'll twist and massage and warp things and it is used against good people. 0.99

02:06:19.000 And evil people above these well-meaning cops that are gung-ho are manipulating them.

02:06:26.000 And he tried to argue with me about gun control areas having higher crime rates.

02:06:29.000 I mean, please, I've had all the top professors on that have crunched the numbers.

02:06:33.000 I've got the numbers.

02:06:34.000 All the big international, you know, crime statistics all over the world.

02:06:38.000 I mean, they took the guns in England and the crime rate quadrupled.

02:06:41.000 I mean, it's just...

02:06:43.000 They make you have automatic weapons in Switzerland.

02:06:45.000 They have the lowest crime rate in the world.

02:06:47.000 You've got to have them by law.

02:06:48.000 They come and do inspections to make sure you've got them hidden so the government can't steal them.

02:06:52.000 They teach you.

02:06:53.000 If the government ever tries to take your guns, fight back.

02:06:55.000 We do inspections to make sure the machine guns are properly hidden.

02:06:59.000 And the hand grenades.

02:07:00.000 So, I mean, I just don't want to hear it anymore, folks.

02:07:03.000 Civilized, genteel societies have gun cases in every living room.

02:07:09.000 In slave squalor, the people don't. 0.64

02:07:12.000 A few thugs do.

02:07:15.000 And, uh, it's like it's a New York cop convention.

02:07:18.000 We've got a bunch of New York police calling in, people saying they are.

02:07:21.000 But, uh, Ron of New York's a classic.

02:07:23.000 We'll get to him first, and then to Tim and Paul and others.

02:07:26.000 Coming up in about 15 minutes, we've got, um, David Ray Griffin coming on.

02:07:30.000 I got a few news items I want to hit before then.

02:07:33.000 But for stations that don't carry that first five minutes, suddenly, you know, I told the story of why I woke up to corrupt police.

02:07:39.000 I mean, I was a guy who liked to get in fist fights with the tough guys, and I was somebody who liked to go, you know, get drunk and, you know, jump pickup trucks over hills and stuff.

02:07:47.000 But I wasn't a bad kid.

02:07:49.000 You know, I was pretty good.

02:07:50.000 I was pretty rough and tumble.

02:07:54.000 But I didn't like corruption.

02:07:56.000 And I knew the police said they had done bad things.

02:07:59.000 I knew that they tried to put people in jail that hadn't done things they said they did.

02:08:02.000 And I knew that the local Sheriff's Department was dealing narcotics.

02:08:07.000 And so I shot my mouth off about it.

02:08:10.000 It all started when, you know, we're at a bonfire out there, you know, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, and the police come out and try to break it up on private property when I'm like 16.

02:08:18.000 And I go, hey, why don't you go back and deal your drugs?

02:08:20.000 Yeah, I know about you making deliveries. 1.00

02:08:23.000 The cops got me in the car and they said, look, we'll kill you. 0.98

02:08:27.000 I said, well, go ahead then. 1.00

02:08:28.000 I guarantee you'll get caught for that. 1.00

02:08:29.000 Go ahead and hang me in my jail cell. 1.00

02:08:30.000 I mean, I was crazy, folks. 1.00

02:08:32.000 I mean, I'm nuts. 0.82

02:08:33.000 I still am a little bit.

02:08:35.000 And I said, I'm going to expose it. 0.56

02:08:39.000 And I shot my mouth off.

02:08:40.000 And then I had police one time take me down to the office.

02:08:43.000 They said, look, we know you stole all this stereo equipment.

02:08:46.000 We know you're behind it.

02:08:47.000 And I was like, what?

02:08:49.000 I even told the cop, I said, the only thing I've ever stolen was some candy out of a store when I was about three and a half years old.

02:08:55.000 My mom made me take it back, you know, caught me in the car, and then one time I took some beer out of somebody's golf cart that was in their garage.

02:09:03.000 Now the garage door was open, there was a case of beer, we did take it.

02:09:06.000 And that was bad, but I said, I don't steal, what are you talking about?

02:09:10.000 And he goes, well, he goes, Alex, we know that. 1.00

02:09:13.000 If you don't shut your mouth, we're going to put you in jail, and people with AIDS are going to rape you. 1.00

02:09:19.000 And then, my dad had a friend who was a lawyer locally, and the lawyer told my dad about it. 1.00

02:09:24.000 That was one of the main reasons we moved to Austin, Texas.

02:09:27.000 My dad never told me that until years later.

02:09:29.000 He was just, well, I'm selling my dental offices, he had a couple dental offices, and I'm moving to Austin, which he also had a good business opportunity down here to buy a chain of dental offices.

02:09:38.000 A little chain of dental offices.

02:09:40.000 So, you know, it turned out to be good, but my family really finally moved to Austin just because the local lawyer told my dad, yeah, they may be planning to kill your son. 0.94

02:09:49.000 Because, I mean, I knew they were a bunch of criminals.

02:09:51.000 And the sheriff did... Jack McWhorter did go to prison for flying in cocaine.

02:09:59.000 So that's on record.

02:10:00.000 So I don't want to hear this stuff, folks.

02:10:02.000 I don't want to hear it anymore.

02:10:04.000 Government's corrupt.

02:10:05.000 It always gets corrupt.

02:10:07.000 More often than not.

02:10:08.000 Statistically, police are more corrupt than any other group. 1.00

02:10:12.000 I'm talking about high-level police, not the average, you know, idiot on the street who just looks like the general public. 0.99

02:10:17.000 And until we understand this, we're just going to keep getting taken to the cleaners. 0.99

02:10:24.000 It's that simple.

02:10:25.000 And then in closing, before I go to some calls and cover some news, you notice I didn't plug my videos last hour.

02:10:32.000 And that's the sole source of support of my broadcast and my staff.

02:10:39.000 I've got Ryan Slickheisen, who's a webmaster.

02:10:42.000 I've got Steve Watson, Paul Watson, and my wife.

02:10:46.000 So, total, that's four webmasters.

02:10:49.000 I'm paying folks to do redesigns and to build blogs.

02:10:53.000 That's coming up.

02:10:55.000 I want a storefront property to have retail and be able to have folks into my office. 1.00

02:11:00.000 I need to hire more staff just to read all the email and get all the leads and get the guests.

02:11:06.000 I'm killing myself doing all the work.

02:11:10.000 So I'll throw it out there that people all the time say, I want to support you, I want to donate, I want to blah blah blah.

02:11:15.000 How do you support this broadcast?

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02:15:32.000 Let's go ahead and uh...

02:15:34.000 And again, that's a double entendre.

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02:15:41.000 Let's go ahead and go to Ron in New York, one of our favorite callers.

02:15:45.000 He's been calling in too much lately, but that's okay.

02:15:47.000 We'll let him on today.

02:15:48.000 Go ahead, Ron.

02:15:49.000 You're a retired New York cop, and this is the same Ron, right?

02:15:51.000 Yes, it is.

02:15:52.000 So it's kind of like a convention of New York cops.

02:15:55.000 You heard two of them earlier.

02:15:56.000 What's on your mind?

02:15:57.000 Well, Alex, I only heard bifurcated parts of the conversation with the fellow that wrote the book.

02:16:03.000 Now, he said that in all of New York State, there were 400 and some odd murders.

02:16:08.000 Was that correct?

02:16:10.000 Uh, yeah, I think so.

02:16:12.000 Yeah, I believe he referred to the state because he was comparing the state of Texas to the state of New York.

02:16:17.000 His statistics are a little bit off there.

02:16:20.000 There are approximately 500 or so murders in the city of New York alone.

02:16:25.000 The state statistics, of course, and naturally, are much larger than 400.

02:16:29.000 I don't know where he came up with that statistic, but that's not accurate.

02:16:33.000 Now, if I understood correctly to the interview, and by the way, I don't want to digress, but the reason I've been calling in is because things have been happening at a faster and more furious pace, as you well know, than they ever have before.

02:16:44.000 We've had more things occur in probably one week than we've had in the last three or four weeks.

02:16:48.000 CAFTA, Patriot Act, Supreme Court stuff.

02:16:51.000 Right.

02:16:52.000 All these rulings, yes.

02:16:54.000 Okay, so that's why I'm calling in to address them.

02:16:56.000 But anyway, let's get back to the original point.

02:16:58.000 Now, if I understood correctly, he was convicted of perjury, is that correct?

02:17:03.000 Or giving false testimony?

02:17:07.000 No, he was just admitting it.

02:17:09.000 He was admitting that he had committed perjury or gave false testimony.

02:17:13.000 And in the end, he said it was a good thing.

02:17:16.000 Well, I don't know how long or how far he is out of the department, but there's certain rules, there's certain laws there.

02:17:24.000 Listen, first off, the chief law is this.

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02:17:28.000 He's admitting to giving perjured testimony to wrongfully convict people.

02:17:33.000 That is a silly thing to do and that's why I really wonder...

02:17:37.000 I mean, if this isn't bravado, because he spoke more like a script out of a Hollywood cop show than he did out of anybody.

02:17:43.000 No, I hear you.

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02:21:58.000 I wanted to get Professor David Ray Griffin on today to talk a little bit about some of the new 9/11 stuff that's coming out.

02:22:08.000 More and more former airline pilots coming out saying what happened on 9-11 is impossible.

02:22:12.000 More and more janitors and police and rescue workers saying bombs were going off.

02:22:18.000 But I also wanted to just get his take on the London bombing.

02:22:22.000 Just the smell test, which I talked to him off air a few days ago.

02:22:26.000 He said it doesn't really pass that, but he doesn't know exactly what happened, but it doesn't look good.

02:22:31.000 And we do have some new developments on that.

02:22:32.000 I wanted to raise those to him a little bit later.

02:22:35.000 Obviously, we have loaded phones too, and only about 40 minutes or less to talk to him.

02:22:41.000 And I've got several other news items I'm going to throw out there, but I'll tell you, he's a great guy.

02:22:45.000 David Ray Griffin is Professor of Philosophy of Religion at Claremont School of Theology at Claremont Graduate University.

02:22:52.000 One of the co-directors of the Center for Process Studies.

02:22:54.000 He is the author of God, Power, and Evil, A Process.

02:22:59.000 And he again has just written a whole bunch of critically acclaimed books on many subjects, and he's written The New Pearl Harbor and several other books on 9-11.

02:23:09.000 Professor, good to have you back on with us!

02:23:11.000 Hi Alex, it's good to be back with you.

02:23:13.000 You bet!

02:23:15.000 I tell you, so much has happened since we had you on a few months ago.

02:23:19.000 Your comments on what's going on with the 9-11 truth movement.

02:23:24.000 Well, it's quite interesting this weekend.

02:23:28.000 For the first time there will be a convergence of 9-11 people with a lot of other anti-war people and that's quite a significant development because for a long time there was a rather standoffish attitude.

02:23:45.000 But I think this series of Downing Street memos opened a lot of people's eyes and people who Maybe thought 9-11 people were sort of weird conspiracy people, because, you know, the press doesn't cover their stuff, so it must not be worth covering.

02:24:06.000 And now they see you can get a smoking memo that says the Bush administration was going to fix the facts and the intelligence around the policy of going to war in Iraq, and the mainstream media won't print even that.

02:24:21.000 I think that opened up a lot of people to see... Well, this is key.

02:24:25.000 Left control gatekeepers, funded by the Ford Foundation and others, Amy Goodman, they won't touch this with a thousand foot pole, but I have seen now the controlled left coming out of their control, and if you turn on these tens of millions of liberal activists, it is over for the globalists.

02:24:45.000 Well, one can hope.

02:24:47.000 So one can hope for both of those things.

02:24:49.000 That is, one can hope that there is a sign that there is going to be openness to 9-11 truth in the activist-liberal part of the country, and that if that happens, that would make a significant difference.

02:25:06.000 It certainly couldn't hurt.

02:25:08.000 It would certainly help. 0.67

02:25:10.000 Well, what we're seeing is the mainstreaming of People not believing this ridiculous official story.

02:25:17.000 I mean, I mean, certainly you're seeing that.

02:25:21.000 Yeah, it's, uh, you know, the, uh, the, the, you know, more people, uh, you know, my books and other 9-11 books are still selling, uh, rather remarkably well on, you know, as, as indicated by the ranking on Amazon.com and, and, and, uh, other indicators.

02:25:39.000 And this means that thousands of people every week, thousands of new people are learning about this, and most of the reviews that I get and other similar books we get on Amazon are positive.

02:25:53.000 Well, I'll say this, and frankly the number of videos I sell or books you sell may be substantive, but in the aggregate it is nothing compared to just what people are learning on the Internet.

02:26:05.000 Well, that's true.

02:26:06.000 I mean, it's all part of the mix, but that's indicative.

02:26:09.000 I mean, a lot of... That's a good scientific indicator.

02:26:12.000 Yeah, it's not scientific, but it's certainly an indicator that... I think it's scientific to be able to look at things being in a really best-selling, exposing this view.

02:26:19.000 I think that's a scientific reading of sales of something.

02:26:24.000 Oh sure, but I mean you haven't done some sort of impartial poll where, I mean this is a self-selected audience by definition, but the very fact that so many people are doing this self-selecting is the significant thing.

02:26:40.000 And the point I'm going to make, or one of the points I'm going to make while I'm in Washington, is that there's a sense in which 9-11 is not the worst thing that's happened.

02:26:51.000 I mean when you think of it, We're talking about a little over, you know, 3,000 people who were killed and a few buildings were brought down.

02:27:00.000 But compare that with, you know, the number of people who've already been killed in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

02:27:08.000 If we keep going in Iraq, it's certainly going to be 3,000 Americans. 0.93

02:27:13.000 But 9-11 is important because it's the linchpin, the launchpad. 0.79

02:27:17.000 That's absolutely right, and that's the point I'm going to make, that whereas the public might put up with the idea that the President went to war on the basis of fixed intelligence, they would not put up with 9-11.

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02:30:58.000 Professor David Ray Griffin.

02:31:00.000 We've had Tim and Paul and Ken holding for a long time.

02:31:06.000 Those are the three calls I'll have time to take in about ten minutes or so.

02:31:09.000 But we're so honored to have Professor Griffin on with us.

02:31:12.000 We've got to get him back on in the future for several hours.

02:31:15.000 Professor Griffin, finish up what you were just saying about this big 9-11 Truth Convergence, which I wish I could go to, but I'm mainly having you on to promote it.

02:31:24.000 Tell us about that.

02:31:25.000 I'm told Cynthia McKinney is going to be involved, too.

02:31:28.000 Yes, there are kind of two parallel tracks.

02:31:34.000 On Friday, there will be her hearing, which will go all day long, and several people will be there.

02:31:45.000 Paul Thompson and Nafeez Ahmed will be testifying about omissions and distortions in the 9-11 Commission Report.

02:31:54.000 And that's going to be on C-SPAN!

02:31:59.000 I don't know on that.

02:32:00.000 There's been talk that it would be.

02:32:02.000 How can they not put a congresswoman having a meeting there and covering lies?

02:32:11.000 It's huge.

02:32:14.000 You know, C-SPAN is our best hope in terms of television.

02:32:19.000 And what time is that?

02:32:21.000 The meeting runs all day, really, from 9 o'clock, of course, Eastern Time, till 4, I believe.

02:32:30.000 The morning will deal with the questions and the truth of the report, and the afternoon will deal with the policy questions.

02:32:40.000 And where is that going to be held?

02:32:43.000 You know, I don't have that exact location.

02:32:45.000 I mean, is it in a House office building?

02:32:47.000 Yes, it's an official meeting.

02:32:51.000 Well, that's going to be so... I mean, is this part of a hearing, an investigation she's calling through Congress?

02:32:59.000 I mean, obviously, if she's using one of their facilities, it is.

02:33:01.000 Well, you know, I'm not positive this is technically one of the facilities, but I can't say.

02:33:09.000 Well, regardless, it sounds very newsworthy.

02:33:11.000 Yeah, and she has one other congressional co-sponsor, so she's not out there all by herself.

02:33:17.000 Well, she's got co-sponsors, and it is official.

02:33:21.000 Yeah, well, I'd say she has one.

02:33:24.000 And so that was very good news to hear that one person was willing to sign on.

02:33:29.000 So I'd say that'll be going on, and then a parallel track will be that afternoon, there will be a uh... meeting at the National Press Club for alternative journalists and uh... they're hoping several hundred of them show up from around the country and uh... i will be speaking at that event i will have about uh... twenty minutes and uh... two of the uh...

02:34:00.000 Jersey Girls will be speaking.

02:34:03.000 Last I heard, it was to be Lori Van Alken and Mindy Kleinberg.

02:34:07.000 Okay, what are the things you're going to be covering again?

02:34:11.000 Well, my talk is going to be called 9-11 and the mainstream press.

02:34:16.000 And I'm simply going to point out that, you know, in a criminal case, the prosecution gets up and presents an initial case.

02:34:28.000 Which is supposed to establish a prima facie argument that there is reason to go forward.

02:34:34.000 Prima facie argument for guilt.

02:34:36.000 Then the defense attorney steps up and says, I move for dismissal on the grounds that no good argument has been made.

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02:34:54.000 And if the judge does say that, then the defense must rebut all the charges.

02:35:02.000 Now, the parallel is, you and I and many other people have established what we believe is to be a prima facie case.

02:35:12.000 The mainstream media should have played the role of the judge and said, yes indeed, here it is, okay Bush administration, defend yourselves.

02:35:23.000 But they've never even allowed, I mean certainly we've shown the evidence, they've just acted like it doesn't exist, and they've gone along with the official story since day one, and that's how the globalists, the neocon crowd, has been able to operate with impunity.

02:35:39.000 Well that's right, so that the mainstream press, rather than playing the role of the impartial judge or jury, which is what one would expect from a so-called free press, They've taken the role of the mouthpiece for the administration, and so the administration just got up and said, in essence, we move to dismiss.

02:36:01.000 You know, Bush says, beware of outrageous conspiracy theories, talking, you know, probably primarily to the press there.

02:36:10.000 And so, nevertheless, a kind of impartial judgment has been made by public opinion Uh, you've cited the Zogby polls and the polls in Germany and the polls in Canada and so on.

02:36:23.000 So we've got civil society have said yes indeed a prima facie case has been made.

02:36:29.000 And so really what's happened here is they've tried to sell their fraud and in the process the already battle-scarred mainstream media has lost even more of its credibility to a level now where newspaper circulation is down by 66 percent in the last 10 years.

02:36:48.000 We have the TV viewership for cable and broadcast TV down around 45%.

02:36:53.000 I mean, we're seeing an exodus that the government's lost all credibility, the media is losing all credibility, and the alternative media itself is being energized in that process.

02:37:06.000 Now what do we do?

02:37:08.000 Have some type of public trial?

02:37:11.000 Yeah, and the argument I'm going to make is that the 9-11 Commission report was in fact the government's attempt to offer a rebuttal.

02:37:21.000 But, you know, with Zelikow in charge, the White House really had their man on the Commission in charge of the Commission.

02:37:27.000 So that proves that that was a kangaroo court where they put all their people in charge, appointed by the President, then you ask the public again, okay?

02:37:35.000 This was their, quote, response to write up a whitewash, and from the get-go they said, we're not finding government guilt.

02:37:42.000 I mean, they said that from the start, so they're convicted right there of a staged hearing from their own words!

02:37:49.000 That's right and so that's what I'm going to try to convince the alternative press people there is that in fact we have actually moved to that final stage because the The government had its chance to rebut all the arguments, but it didn't do it.

02:38:05.000 It omitted all of them except a few, and those it distorted.

02:38:09.000 Which is a prima facie case for guilt!

02:38:13.000 That's right, and so I would say, as my lawyer friends tell me, if the defense does not rebut all or at least most of the charges, Well, it's like Larry Silverstein.

02:38:25.000 We call his office.

02:38:26.000 We write to him.

02:38:27.000 now the prima facie case is conclusive.

02:38:29.000 And that's really the situation we're in.

02:38:33.000 It's just that the mainstream press has not notified the American people that that remarkable transition has occurred.

02:38:39.000 Well, it's like Larry Silverstein.

02:38:41.000 We call his office, we write to him, hundreds of media outlets have called him, and he will not respond to Building 7 saying he pulled it.

02:38:50.000 Now, through some intermediary in the New York Post of all places, oh, well, we were interviewing about why the towers fell in conspiracy theories, and he said, well, that isn't really what I meant, but then he didn't say what that meant, and then the newspaper decided not to print that, so that shows you're not even Silberstein absconding and covering up, and we also have the media doing it.

02:39:16.000 Well, yeah, and I think you've had William Rodriguez on?

02:39:20.000 Yes.

02:39:21.000 Yeah, and so he's told his story about how NBC News came out to his home and spent a whole day interviewing him.

02:39:29.000 About the explosions and then didn't put a second of it on the air.

02:39:33.000 And then we have all these firefighters saying there were explosions.

02:39:36.000 That's right.

02:39:37.000 And then we have just the, again, the prima facie evidence of the Commission saying there are no central steel columns when the World Trade Center is north of the South Tower and some of the biggest in the world.

02:39:50.000 Yeah, so I had to be very selective in my talk, but that's one of them I picked out because

02:39:57.000 It's significant there that James Glantz of the New York Times had written that book, co-authored the book on the rise and the fall of the World Trade Center in 2003, and he spent a lot of the book talking about this unique, at the time, structure being built around these 47 steel columns.

02:40:25.000 And yet, when the 9-11 Commission report came out and denied the existence of those columns, you didn't see the New York Times protesting.

02:40:33.000 And again, that's like saying the Washington Monument doesn't exist.

02:40:38.000 Yeah, and actually, these things were actually bigger.

02:40:42.000 I mean, there was a lot more total mass there in those 47 Steel columns than even the Washington Monument, so it's even a more, you could say, monumental lie.

02:40:54.000 It's like saying the Atlantic Ocean doesn't exist.

02:40:57.000 No, because, I mean, since you talked about that on C-SPAN, and since that was pointed out in the Commission Report, and others have pointed it out, I've gotten lots of emails from architecture students.

02:41:07.000 They're like, we study the WTCs in school, and they talk about the columns.

02:41:13.000 Yeah, can you get some of those people to go on record and say that?

02:41:19.000 We have the plans for the building.

02:41:21.000 We have the film footage of them building the building.

02:41:24.000 I have that PDF.

02:41:25.000 Yeah, maybe this would be a good show for you to get some of this documented.

02:41:30.000 Get some architecture students on there or, you know, full-fledged architects who say, well, of course, this is a big lie.

02:41:40.000 But I mean, it is a big lie theory, though, because it's so big, we then try to argue with just ridiculousness.

02:41:48.000 I mean, it's like Rumsfeld saying there's WMDs, and then he says it's an urban legend conspiracy.

02:41:53.000 It's a quote, urban legend.

02:41:54.000 Another quote, it's a conspiracy theory.

02:41:56.000 I mean, I've got the guy all over video saying it, Professor, and then he says, no, I'm a kook!

02:42:02.000 Yeah.

02:42:05.000 Well, you know, this famous quotation from somebody in the administration, and one might guess it was Karl Rove.

02:42:12.000 We control reality.

02:42:14.000 Ridiculing people who are reality-based and saying, well, we create reality.

02:42:21.000 And you journalists just come along and report what we do.

02:42:27.000 I mean, that isn't just arrogance to me.

02:42:28.000 That shows kind of those, you know, pinnacle of power sickness.

02:42:33.000 The analogy is a doctor, you know, gets on this power trip that he can't ever be wrong.

02:42:38.000 But a better example would be, you know, a deep sea diver down in deep waters.

02:42:43.000 You get euphoric off of the lack of oxygen.

02:42:46.000 And, you know, well, people in high places also get, you know, this power trip itis.

02:42:51.000 Yeah.

02:42:52.000 Alex, let me ask you another question about what you've covered on your show.

02:42:56.000 Have you dealt with depleted uranium?

02:42:59.000 We've been covering DU for about seven years.

02:42:59.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:43:02.000 Yeah, I assumed you had.

02:43:04.000 And that's going to be another dimension of this DC Convergence meeting.

02:43:09.000 Have you had Lauren, did she say Moray or Moret?

02:43:13.000 Do you know?

02:43:14.000 Lauren Moret, you mean, yeah.

02:43:16.000 Yeah, have you had her on?

02:43:17.000 No, I've had Dr. Doug Rocky and others on.

02:43:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:22.000 Uh, they're on the same page, uh, and, uh, she's going to be there.

02:43:27.000 Well, here's an example.

02:43:28.000 The Army's own handbooks, up until the mid-nineties, said it's deadly poisonous, it'll kill you, don't breathe it.

02:43:34.000 All these decontamination ways, you've got guys in suits, special vehicles to deal with it, and then they just don't issue that to the troops and tell them to use it everywhere.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, so, uh, when we say that, uh, you know, only 1,800 Americans, uh,

02:43:52.000 have been killed and even if it's only uh... six thousand if you know if we were counting the ones who died on the plane leaving iraq uh... still that's a fairly small number compared with the the people who are going to die from this war i mean just americans uh... how do they you know i think the use almost in real magnitude it's much better salting four different countries with this in the last fifteen years but before we go to a few calls

02:44:21.000 Professor David Ray Griffin, I wanted to bring this up to you.

02:44:25.000 Bush and Cheney are out fear-mongering.

02:44:27.000 Their neocon mouthpieces are out fear-mongering.

02:44:29.000 We're gonna be nuked!

02:44:31.000 Suitcase nukes are going to go off.

02:44:34.000 Al Qaeda is about to attack us.

02:44:36.000 Then you go into the history that suitcase nukes don't last that long.

02:44:39.000 The Russians didn't really sell these suitcase nukes.

02:44:42.000 Our government had a $20 billion program to buy these up and destroy these.

02:44:46.000 There's records of all of that.

02:44:48.000 But it scares me to see these criminals creating kind of a history, a false history, That suitcase nukes are here, and I don't put it past them to blow up 20 city blocks, and then radically re-engineer our whole society, have a draft, make themselves king, they've introduced the bills to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

02:45:07.000 I mean, a lot of serious people, Professor, even Tommy Frank said it.

02:45:12.000 They are really setting up for martial law.

02:45:14.000 I got articles about secret police units with the military spying on citizens.

02:45:18.000 I mean, I'm not trying to scare people here, but I think this military-industrial complex is capable, and I'm seeing the same propaganda I saw before 9-11, of carrying out some type of nuclear attack here in the U.S.

02:45:30.000 Your comments?

02:45:32.000 Well, my comment is I'm just afraid that this may well be right, and like you, I believe that one can't put even such a thing beyond these people because they are really fanatic.

02:45:52.000 When you start reading the literature about the neocons and see what their world view is, and we're talking about people that are household names, we're talking about Chaney, Rumsfeld, Pearl, Wolfowitz, And, uh, you know, the Washington Standard crowd.

02:46:10.000 And these guys are truly fanatics who really want to rule the world.

02:46:16.000 And they've got that megalomaniacal syndrome going. 0.99

02:46:19.000 And imagine Napoleon or Hitler with the nukes. 0.78

02:46:22.000 I mean, we are in so much trouble.

02:46:26.000 And regardless of them setting one off here and blaming it on Iran, they're openly talking about... They even got Paul Harvey.

02:46:32.000 Did you hear about that?

02:46:34.000 I haven't heard that anything recently, no.

02:46:37.000 Well, Paul Harvey, we've aired it here, he came out and he said black slavery was good.

02:46:41.000 I'm not kidding, in the same sentence.

02:46:43.000 He said we gave smallpox to the Indians, and we got prosperous, it's time to nuke the Middle East. 1.00

02:46:48.000 I mean, these guys are out of control.

02:46:53.000 Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

02:46:56.000 And that's why, again, I go back to why I focused on 9-11, because Even though that would be far worse, and even though, I mean, what we're doing with DU is possibly now killing the world. 0.78

02:47:11.000 We don't know.

02:47:12.000 It is nuclear war.

02:47:14.000 Yeah, and so those are the huge stories, and 9-11 in and of itself, you know, was a fairly Small event.

02:47:23.000 Yeah, it's like getting Capone on income taxes.

02:47:25.000 And we're not minimizing 9-11, but in scale, it is tiny compared to attacking Iraq twice with hundreds of thousands of tons of this stuff, Serbia, 10 proving grounds in the U.S., and Afghanistan. 0.79

02:47:38.000 They bombed Republican Guard bases, then they have our troops move in a week later and do nothing about it.

02:47:45.000 Yeah, but 9-11 is huge in terms of the I mean, it has been the pretext for all this other stuff, so that if we can expose 9-11, and I say the other reason is that whereas American people would put up with a lot of other nonsense, they would not put up with learning that the government had deliberately manufactured 9-11 and lied about it.

02:48:10.000 Professor, so many people woke up now I think that helps, though.

02:48:14.000 I don't think that this establishment counted on people being so bold and seeing that the root is government-sponsored terror.

02:48:22.000 Do you think that that makes us safer, that everybody's starting to wake up?

02:48:28.000 Well, it's hard to know.

02:48:29.000 I mean, the opposite could be that they'll say, okay, it's now time for police day.

02:48:37.000 It's hard to predict the future when you're talking about such people.

02:48:40.000 When you're talking about lunatics, we'll be right back. 0.61

02:48:43.000 Stay with us. 0.98

02:48:43.000 Your calls. 0.98

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02:51:50.000 I'm going to jam three calls in here.

02:51:51.000 Just have a question or comment ready for Professor David Ray Griffin.

02:51:55.000 Just type his name into Google.

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02:52:01.000 And we have a link to it as well on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

02:52:06.000 But, Professor, you're high up in academia, your book's endorsed, you've been praised by a lot of pretty high power people.

02:52:15.000 I mean, talking to folks that would be called, you know, mid-level elite, it seems like, and I've talked to some of them too, they're upset.

02:52:22.000 They're worried.

02:52:23.000 It's like, this is so over the top.

02:52:25.000 This is so out of control.

02:52:27.000 The lies are so crazy that a lot of middle class and upper class people are now really going, hey, this threatens our whole future. 1.00

02:52:35.000 These people really are nuts. 0.95

02:52:37.000 I mean, that's what I'm seeing happening. 0.99

02:52:39.000 The question is, is it happening fast enough, Professor?

02:52:43.000 Well, of course, it's hard to know, but it is very interesting that a lot of very conservative people are rejecting the neocon.

02:52:54.000 So you've got these volumes coming out, one of them's called Neocon'd, and another one's called Neocon'd Again, and one of them is essays entirely by conservatives.

02:53:09.000 And then you've got Paul Craig Roberts and you've got several other quite conservative people who are protesting and saying this is just nuts.

02:53:19.000 Well, again, folks, they're going to carry out attacks, they're going to have a national draft, you're going to have to salute them and worship them.

02:53:25.000 The public plans, they'll have citizens in little uniforms and local tattletale squads.

02:53:30.000 We're going to make Soviet China look friendly. 0.97

02:53:34.000 If they have their way.

02:53:35.000 Do you agree that they'd like to set something up like that, Professor?

02:53:42.000 Well, you know, I mean, as I say, it's hard to try to get inside their minds and know what they want.

02:53:51.000 And, of course, they're a disparate group, and they probably have some different views, so I don't know.

02:53:56.000 I mean, I look at what they're setting up.

02:53:58.000 They are setting up the classical police state.

02:54:01.000 Yeah, but with regard to China, there's no doubt about that their focus is now turned to that.

02:54:08.000 That's the new competitor.

02:54:11.000 I mean, they know all along that this so-called war with Islam is just a charade.

02:54:19.000 Yeah, that's just a warm-up.

02:54:21.000 Yeah, I mean, with China you're talking about a real state with enormous power and with an enormously growing economy.

02:54:28.000 And they threatened to blow up 200 cities last week.

02:54:33.000 Did you see that quote?

02:54:35.000 What was that?

02:54:36.000 Well, the top Chinese general said we'll destroy 200 cities.

02:54:40.000 Oh, you mean over Taiwan?

02:54:42.000 Yeah.

02:54:43.000 Yeah, yeah, certainly they will sable rattle.

02:54:46.000 So you've got two very strong and powerful forces there, and it's certainly not helpful for us to be presenting them as our new spurious enemy.

02:55:03.000 After arming them to the teeth, let's take a few calls.

02:55:05.000 We're almost out of time.

02:55:06.000 Very quickly, Tim in Ohio.

02:55:08.000 You're on the air.

02:55:08.000 Go ahead.

02:55:09.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:55:10.000 Hello, Dr. Griffin.

02:55:11.000 I have a quick reminder, comment, question.

02:55:13.000 I can do it all in 30 seconds.

02:55:14.000 Remember, people, a true patriot act is willing to defend their country against your government.

02:55:19.000 And as we deal with these complex issues, I try to put a template on everything that simplifies it.

02:55:24.000 There's four archetypes out there.

02:55:26.000 Those that seek to oppress, those that are aiding those oppressors, those that are bowing down to it, and those, like us, that attempt to lift the veil of secrecy on these people.

02:55:35.000 I think Mr. C has fallen into category number two there.

02:55:38.000 And finally, whatever happened to the court case Marbury v. Madison?

02:55:41.000 That states that anything that goes against the Constitution is null and void.

02:55:45.000 And how does that correlate to the ACF?

02:55:46.000 Yeah, no, no.

02:55:47.000 The Congress is supposed to control the Supreme Court.

02:55:50.000 And things are backwards.

02:55:52.000 Thanks for the call, Tim.

02:55:53.000 I apologize to Paul in Canada and to many others that we're holding.

02:55:58.000 We just gotta get Professor Griffin back on.

02:55:59.000 Professor Griffin, final comments?

02:56:03.000 Well, just keep up the good work and keep informing the public since the mainstream media is certainly not doing its job.

02:56:10.000 And the Truth Convergence is coming up!

02:56:13.000 That's right.

02:56:14.000 It could be a very important event and there's a hope that some sort of new All right. 0.86

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

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