Alex Jones Show - 20050810_Wed_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:25.000 It is Wednesday, the 10th day of August 2005.

00:00:28.000 We're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:35.000 The Global Controllers, the Alpha Parasites, want to destroy our culture and our sovereignty. 1.00

00:00:42.000 And they've pulled out all the stops to do it, to bring us into this world government system.

00:00:48.000 And all over the nation, now Spanish is the primary language, even when Only about a third of the patrons are speaking Spanish.

00:01:01.000 It doesn't matter.

00:01:02.000 It's about forcing you on to Spanish to break up the Southwest, which our government's doing a fabulous job of right now. 1.00

00:01:13.000 And in Denver, a whole bunch of their biggest libraries are on the verge of going Spanish first.

00:01:21.000 Can you imagine if a bunch of English speakers moved to a town in Mexico and tried to say, we now want this to be English first?

00:01:30.000 They would laugh at you!

00:01:31.000 Can you imagine if a bunch of English speakers moved over the border, and if eight towns were flying the Mexican flag, or the American flag, and no English, excuse me, no Spanish was allowed?

00:01:46.000 Because in El Cenizo and other towns here in Texas, the Mexican flag flies, no American flag, no Texas flag, and English is not allowed in court proceedings.

00:01:56.000 And you notice the feds don't say a word.

00:01:59.000 But if LA doesn't have 15 different languages posted, the feds come in and trounce them.

00:02:06.000 Again, it's about creating balkanization.

00:02:09.000 It's about stopping people from assimilating.

00:02:12.000 It's about creating that divide-and-conquer type scenario.

00:02:18.000 So we've got a guest coming up just for a few minutes later in this hour to talk about the Denver situation.

00:02:23.000 Then coming up in the second hour, we have the gentleman arrested for asking Rumsfeld a question.

00:02:31.000 And I've been kidnapped by Bush for asking a question back in 98.

00:02:35.000 A lot of other people have too.

00:02:39.000 And so we'll be talking about that in the third hour.

00:02:43.000 I got Glenn Spencer from American Patrol coming on.

00:02:47.000 Talk about the all-out anarchy on the Texas border and some areas of Arizona as well, with travel advisories issued by the State Department, with deaths, with car bombs going off, with hundreds of dead a month.

00:03:00.000 It's literally more dangerous than Israel, but they choose to not even tell you about it. 1.00

00:03:05.000 Just minor footnotes in the news.

00:03:08.000 And Glenn had been predicting this for years, and now it's... I remember about six years ago he was predicting it on this show.

00:03:15.000 Back when he lived in California, he hadn't moved to Arizona.

00:03:19.000 So Glenn's coming on to talk about that.

00:03:21.000 There is just a bunch of other news.

00:03:23.000 They're going to capitalize on 9-11.

00:03:25.000 They're basically making it a national holiday to worship the government and worship the destruction of America and freedom.

00:03:32.000 They're going to have a big police state extravaganza with troops marching around in New York.

00:03:37.000 Again, giving you the image of troops keeping you safe.

00:03:40.000 Troops save you on 9-11.

00:03:42.000 Troops, troops, troops.

00:03:44.000 Let the troops be on the street corners.

00:03:46.000 Let them question you.

00:03:47.000 Show them your papers.

00:03:49.000 Troops prodding you as freedom.

00:03:51.000 Just like it was in Russia.

00:03:53.000 Just like it was in East Germany.

00:03:55.000 Enjoy it.

00:03:56.000 Love it.

00:03:57.000 Live it.

00:03:58.000 And Pentagon to host 9-11 march and show.

00:04:02.000 The Pentagon will hold a massive march and country music concert to mark the fourth anniversary of 9-11, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an unusual announcement tucked into an Iraq briefing yesterday.

00:04:17.000 Ah, yeah, maybe Bush can land via jump jet, carrier jump jet. 0.92

00:04:23.000 Maybe he can land and get out in a commando outfit.

00:04:26.000 There he is, your leader, the Texan, the John Wayne, who's afraid of horses!

00:04:33.000 And vacations in Texas in August when it's 105 degrees when most Texans want to get out of the state.

00:04:40.000 Doesn't matter if he's afraid of horses and a blue blood.

00:04:44.000 He wears a cowboy hat.

00:04:46.000 You can trust him.

00:04:47.000 And a fighter uniform.

00:04:49.000 What a commando.

00:04:51.000 We're so lucky our emperor is a commando.

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00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:13.000 All right, we got three very important guests coming up today as Spanish becomes the official language.

00:08:21.000 12% of the population, but it will be the official language.

00:08:24.000 Again, to balkanize the country, this is all run out of D.C.

00:08:28.000 And then coming up after that, again, a gentleman who At the end of Rumsfeld's speech, you had press passes, asked Rumsfeld a question he didn't like, and Lord Rumsfeld said, clap that man in ions!

00:08:42.000 How dare you besmirch a representative of the crown!

00:08:47.000 I mean, you want tyranny, folks, you're gonna get it!

00:08:51.000 You notice all over the country, new freedom initiatives for forced drugging and psychological testing?

00:08:56.000 You know, Supreme Court rulings, they can take your private property, and by the way, you don't even get just compensation.

00:09:02.000 That's the big secret.

00:09:03.000 Confirmed.

00:09:04.000 You notice all these rulings about no more due process, or probable cause, or warrants.

00:09:11.000 We don't need no stinking warrants.

00:09:13.000 I have our sheriff before last, Margo Fraser, on the news saying, oh, we don't need warrants anymore.

00:09:19.000 Well, who told you that? 1.00

00:09:21.000 You demonic pig! 1.00

00:09:22.000 And I don't mean she's a pig, because she's a Elected Peace Officer. 1.00

00:09:29.000 I'm in in resemblance. 0.97

00:09:30.000 Okay, I'm being cruel.

00:09:33.000 I just get really angry about... just in our face!

00:09:38.000 You don't own your property!

00:09:39.000 You don't have control over your children! 1.00

00:09:43.000 We don't need no more stinking warrants! 0.99

00:09:46.000 Badges! 0.86

00:09:47.000 We don't need no stinking badges!

00:09:50.000 You're above the law!

00:09:51.000 Well, I'm here to tell you you're not above the law!

00:09:56.000 Listen, I'm sick of it.

00:09:57.000 Okay, before I go into perseverating rants, let me just calm down.

00:10:02.000 And we'll be talking about the actual war, the State Department Travel Advisory that is out saying that South Texas is more dangerous statistically than Israel.

00:10:21.000 But notice every day we hear about a bombing or a shooting and how dangerous Israel is, or how dangerous South Africa is, or don't go there! 0.72

00:10:29.000 Don't go there!

00:10:30.000 But the most dangerous travel advisory, other than a few places in Africa, is... The USA!

00:10:39.000 Yeah, back in the U.S.S.R.

00:10:40.000 You don't know how lucky you are, but they just keep it quiet!

00:10:44.000 Burning vehicles, burning buildings, hundreds of dead a month, rocket propelled grenades on a daily basis, I mean, seriously!

00:10:54.000 We put together a big data page.

00:10:56.000 Oh, I just forgot.

00:10:57.000 I know Ryan Slickheisen is on his way over here to the studio to get last night's TV show, which was very good, with reports, interviews with two MI5 agents blowing the whistle on government-sponsored terror in England.

00:11:15.000 And on 9-11.

00:11:17.000 And also an interview with Michael Meacher, former number three in the Blair Cabinet.

00:11:22.000 And of course, member of Parliament.

00:11:24.000 And more footage of where I was bullhorning Parliament.

00:11:26.000 We haven't put all that out yet.

00:11:28.000 I know he's about to get here and there's nobody at the front door to let him into the studio.

00:11:34.000 So Ryan, you have to sit out there to the next break.

00:11:38.000 I know you were supposed to be here at 11 and I just forgot about you.

00:11:41.000 You see, I'm so busy I now communicate with my staff over the radio.

00:11:45.000 This is how we do it.

00:11:48.000 Where was I going with that when I got off into... I mean, we're told, give up all of our liberties, give up all of our freedoms, why 56 people got blown up on some trains and on a bus, which is horrible.

00:12:01.000 Though that many people die every day on the highways.

00:12:04.000 Let's just get rid of the Bill of Rights, get rid of the Magna Carta, get rid of everything, and just let's have checkpoints in the shopping malls, let's run around screaming, throwing ourselves at the feet of the government, and just, I want to be your slave. 0.98

00:12:16.000 Oh, you know, us Americans, we're a bunch of cowards. 0.91

00:12:19.000 We're not the toughest, brightest people like we used to be. 0.99

00:12:22.000 No, we're the most groveling. 0.64

00:12:23.000 We're not men, we're little rodents.

00:12:26.000 We're little field mice.

00:12:28.000 We're the tiny pygmy mouse.

00:12:30.000 You know, we are the size of your thumbnail.

00:12:34.000 We grovel in fear at our own shadows.

00:12:38.000 Why, 55 people died.

00:12:39.000 Let's give all our freedoms up while the border stays wide open and meanwhile we've got Mexican commandos trained and controlled by the CIA slaughtering hundreds a month on both sides.

00:12:52.000 It's no big deal.

00:12:54.000 I just can't get over how overt all of this is.

00:13:03.000 I just can't get over how in your face it is!

00:13:07.000 I mean, literally, folks, it is a war zone!

00:13:12.000 An absolute, total war zone!

00:13:15.000 And our government keeps it quiet because, first and foremost, They want those borders wide open.

00:13:21.000 They want those illegals at the tune of three plus mil a year to pour across. 1.00

00:13:26.000 They want to balkanize this nation.

00:13:27.000 They want that $250 billion a year in smack money and cocaine money. 0.99

00:13:34.000 And they're going to get it, and they gotta have their death squads kill their competition. 0.98

00:13:38.000 Because the Mexican mafia and other people just aren't paying their cut. 1.00

00:13:42.000 And Bush Sr.

00:13:43.000 didn't put up a Noriega not paying his cut.

00:13:46.000 Instantly invaded, totally made up.

00:13:48.000 You think WMDs are made up?

00:13:53.000 I remember, I've seen the Panama Deception many times.

00:13:55.000 I've interviewed some of the people that were there.

00:13:58.000 I ought to dig out their names and get those young students on, college students who are now, of course, married women with children. 1.00

00:14:06.000 Last time I talked to them, but it was four young women at their dormitory.

00:14:10.000 No one kidnapped them.

00:14:11.000 No one had held them hostage.

00:14:13.000 Our news announced young women have been kidnapped by Noriega.

00:14:17.000 An incredible rescue fleet is going to save them.

00:14:21.000 No civilians are being killed.

00:14:22.000 Meanwhile, the Puff, the Magic Dragons, C-130s with huge howitzer cannons and Vulcan Gatling guns just blew up about half of Panama City.

00:14:33.000 Literally, I've seen the footage, folks, just half the city on fire, just blowing everything to pieces.

00:14:39.000 Noriega's asleep, you know, drugged out on heroin and heroin head.

00:14:42.000 He doesn't even know what's going on.

00:14:44.000 He tries to escape.

00:14:46.000 And I've got the footage that you never saw on our news when they walk out and they go, well, thanks for escorting us.

00:14:51.000 Were we in danger during the invasion?

00:14:53.000 We were just in our dorm watching it on television.

00:14:57.000 It was just made up!

00:14:58.000 And they just go grab a few women. 0.98

00:15:00.000 Here they are!

00:15:01.000 Here are the heroes! 0.64

00:15:02.000 And then our media's all told to shut up.

00:15:04.000 Don't interview them.

00:15:05.000 I've interviewed them.

00:15:07.000 On the show.

00:15:08.000 That was about eight years ago.

00:15:09.000 I've got to get them back on.

00:15:10.000 There's just so much I want to do.

00:15:12.000 Just totally made up! 0.82

00:15:14.000 That little toad didn't pay his cut. 0.91

00:15:17.000 And then it's in the documentary. 0.94

00:15:18.000 I mean, he bought too many palaces and was just doing too well.

00:15:23.000 Got a little greedy. 0.99

00:15:24.000 And a pig that didn't fly straight. 0.98

00:15:30.000 What do they call that?

00:15:33.000 You know what a Hossa is? 0.99

00:15:35.000 It's a pig that doesn't fly straight. 1.00

00:15:38.000 It's so greedy that it wants more. 1.00

00:15:41.000 I mean, it's so ridiculous. 0.99

00:15:46.000 So, we have the same thing. 0.79

00:15:47.000 But they can't have Puff the Magic Dragons.

00:15:50.000 Flying around with howitzers hanging off the sides and giant Gatling guns destroying everything and dropping white phosphorus bombs from A-10 warthogs and helicopters. 0.51

00:16:01.000 They can't do that on the Mexico border because it's, you know, the drug dealers, well they own so many houses and palaces they're moving around and again they've cut in about 40% of government's own numbers on the cartels that we know work with this government.

00:16:20.000 And it's every cartel that doesn't play football is getting hit and hit hard by Mexican commandos.

00:16:26.000 But a lot of these drug dealers, security people, they're Mexican commandos too, so our Mexican commandos, by ours, I mean our criminal governments, are having trouble with their Mexican commandos.

00:16:37.000 And there's a CIA training base, I know right where it's at, down in South Texas, where they're training hundreds more every few months.

00:16:43.000 And they're using them in Dallas.

00:16:45.000 I know I talked about this yesterday, folks, but I just can't get over it.

00:16:54.000 I just can't get over that Imagine if Muslims had killed five cops in the month of June. 0.99

00:17:01.000 I haven't seen the numbers from July, though they're saying that they're going to be even worse.

00:17:06.000 Statistics always come out two or three months after, so we're up to June.

00:17:10.000 Five dead U.S.

00:17:11.000 cops, 18 dead Mexican cops, just on the border in the Huevo Laredo and Laredo.

00:17:17.000 Okay?

00:17:18.000 And 127 Dead, as they call us civilians.

00:17:22.000 A hundred and twenty-seven over two dozen kidnapped American citizens alone.

00:17:29.000 Kidnappings!

00:17:31.000 Families!

00:17:32.000 Kids! 0.99

00:17:33.000 Can you imagine if a Muslim kidnapped one child and drug him over the border? 1.00

00:17:39.000 It would be international news! 0.98

00:17:40.000 Top headlines!

00:17:41.000 Dun-dun-dun! 0.84

00:17:42.000 Tonight on CNN! 0.99

00:17:43.000 The evil terrorist!

00:17:45.000 The child in peril!

00:17:47.000 The President will be on the news right now giving broadcast.

00:17:49.000 We are under attack.

00:17:51.000 I'm about to invade Syria and Iran. 1.00

00:17:52.000 We know they're behind it.

00:17:54.000 Aircraft carriers are preparing.

00:17:55.000 I have nuclear warheads loaded.

00:17:57.000 They've kidnapped Jenny!

00:17:59.000 Dun, dun, dun!

00:18:00.000 Fox News!

00:18:01.000 The terrorists have kidnapped children!

00:18:02.000 Just like the Bislan Massacre!

00:18:04.000 It's unbelievable!

00:18:05.000 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun!

00:18:08.000 Top story!

00:18:09.000 Give up all your rights!

00:18:11.000 Meanwhile, it's literal tracers and explosions and helicopters and tanks blowing up and just total warfare, total bedlam.

00:18:19.000 Our government commandos teamed up with Vicente Fox's commandos going after the Mexican drug cartels that want the tens of billions of dollars they've been making.

00:18:28.000 So they got capital, folks, so they got weapons.

00:18:32.000 They've even had some cases in central Mexico of, you know, missiles being fired and shooting down helicopters.

00:18:37.000 I mean, it's getting crazy.

00:18:39.000 Dun-dun-dun tonight!

00:18:41.000 Now imagine!

00:18:42.000 Why?

00:18:43.000 Why is it just a minor footnote on Lou Dobbs, who might mention it once a week?

00:18:47.000 Well, stuff's really gotten bad down there in other travel advisory!

00:18:51.000 I just cannot... I mean, can you imagine the Fox News graphics if Muslims had kidnapped over two dozen American citizens? 0.97

00:18:57.000 Can you imagine the Fox News graphics if they were firing rocket-propelled grenades at U.S.

00:19:06.000 embassies and consulates?

00:19:09.000 The mission, as it's called?

00:19:12.000 Think about that.

00:19:13.000 You know why they're firing at them, don't you?

00:19:15.000 Because the drug dealers know where the commandos are coming from.

00:19:19.000 It's not like they were born yesterday.

00:19:22.000 This is open knowledge with mid-level and high-level drug dealers, folks.

00:19:25.000 This is just public.

00:19:26.000 And it's been in our newspapers in Texas that, strangely enough, months after being trained, each new group goes rogue.

00:19:33.000 They're trained in Alabama and Georgia, facilities in Texas, and then they go rogue immediately after being trained.

00:19:39.000 Why does the government keep training them?

00:19:41.000 Oh, I don't know!

00:19:42.000 They're going rogue!

00:19:44.000 Oh! 0.60

00:19:45.000 And I'm a Chinese jet pilot from Pluto!

00:19:48.000 I mean, it's just... The Mastermind Bombers, MI6 in England!

00:19:54.000 Oh, what a surprise.

00:19:55.000 I got the same story over and over again.

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00:24:02.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:24:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:12.000 Think about this for a second.

00:24:18.000 Think about this for a second.

00:24:30.000 Every time some Palestinian fires an RPG or a rocket-propelled grenade over the wall, and it blows up harmlessly on some rock, It's international headlines!

00:24:45.000 A vicious, deadly, incredible attack was launched!

00:24:49.000 The most savage, the most incredibly, viciously calculated... It's just they're under incredible bombardment.

00:24:58.000 Meanwhile, rocket-propelled grenade attacks on a daily basis, all over the Texas border.

00:25:04.000 They're shooting Border Patrol, they're killing, they're slaughtering, and nothing's being done.

00:25:11.000 It's just a minor footnote.

00:25:13.000 So cops, when, you know, I mean, if a citizen kills a cop, it's like a god has been, you know, thrown in the toilet or something.

00:25:21.000 I mean, it's just the ultimate blasphemy.

00:25:24.000 But when a La Reconquista kills a cop, it's a minor footnote.

00:25:28.000 See how they manage you?

00:25:30.000 See how they manipulate you?

00:25:32.000 See how they control you?

00:25:33.000 Alright, I'm done talking about that until Glenn Spencer is on with us in about an hour and 35 minutes.

00:25:42.000 But Pentagon to host 9-1-1 March Show.

00:25:45.000 Ah, yes.

00:25:46.000 Yes, feeding off the deaths of those people, getting gas mileage out of it.

00:25:50.000 The Pentagon will hold a massive marching country music concert to mark the fourth anniversary of 9-11.

00:25:57.000 I wonder if all those country singers are afraid of horses too, like Bush.

00:26:01.000 I'd like to see Bush running a squeeze shoot and trying to herd 500 head. 0.95

00:26:08.000 I'm so sick of him and that cowboy, I'm about to puke. 0.68

00:26:11.000 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said an unusual announcement, tucked into an Iraq war briefing yesterday.

00:26:18.000 This year the Department of Defense will initiate an American Support Your Freedom Walk.

00:26:25.000 Rumsfeld said, adding that the march would remind people of the sacrifices of this generation and of each previous generation.

00:26:34.000 That is, use it as a fear-mongering scare tactic.

00:26:37.000 Remember 9-11!

00:26:38.000 Remember what Mad Dog Ben Richards did.

00:26:42.000 The brutal slayer of 50 men, women, and children.

00:26:47.000 Now going for broke on The Running Man!

00:26:51.000 Mad Dog Ben Richards.

00:26:53.000 She was his confederate.

00:26:55.000 His lover.

00:26:57.000 And now she's going to be going head to head for her crimes against the stalkers in The Running Man! 1.00

00:27:04.000 Who loves you?

00:27:05.000 And who do you love?

00:27:09.000 It's so sick!

00:27:13.000 I mean, I am really tired of it, folks.

00:27:15.000 That's all any of this is.

00:27:16.000 Just like The Running Man, folks.

00:27:17.000 Fake newscast.

00:27:19.000 And they take one of their agents, and they blame him for the attack.

00:27:24.000 You know, I'm no fan of Muhammad Ata, folks. 1.00

00:27:26.000 He was a really bad person.

00:27:27.000 But he was a U.S.

00:27:29.000 government agent, not just an asset.

00:27:31.000 We have the evidence.

00:27:33.000 He thought he was doing hijacking drills, and that's what happened.

00:27:38.000 Just like in the fictional, the fictional Running Man, Mad Dog Ben Richards is really the person that said no to killing the men, women, and children.

00:27:47.000 That's how they work, folks.

00:27:49.000 Oh, you're going to be part of a drill.

00:27:51.000 Here, carry this on board the train.

00:27:53.000 Good.

00:27:55.000 Good.

00:27:57.000 We'll make sure you're, even though you're blown to pieces, we'll make sure that there's That your I.D.

00:28:03.000 is left at every site.

00:28:05.000 And then our agents will screw up and leave your I.D.

00:28:07.000 at two sites apiece.

00:28:10.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes!

00:28:15.000 It's unbelievable.

00:28:19.000 It's unbelievable.

00:28:23.000 They always make mistakes and it always comes out who's behind it and now we've got to watch.

00:28:30.000 Military.

00:28:32.000 Being used by these criminals.

00:28:33.000 The march will start at the Pentagon where nearly 200 people died on 9-11 and end at the National Mall with a show by country music star Clint Black.

00:28:43.000 Another person who couldn't make it as a rock and roller, so he put on a black Stetson and midgeted about. 1.00

00:28:49.000 And again, I don't even mind Clint Black's music, but I mean, it's just another phony.

00:28:54.000 I guess he's going to leave here a better man, knowing Clint Black this way.

00:28:58.000 Things I couldn't do before, now Clint thinks he can. 0.98

00:29:01.000 Might be a little twit for Lord Bush. 0.89

00:29:03.000 Word of the event startled some observers. 0.93

00:29:06.000 I've never heard of such a thing, said John Pike, who has been a defense analyst in Washington for 25 years and runs GlobalSecurity.org.

00:29:16.000 The news also reignited debate and anger over September 11th and linking it with the war in Iraq.

00:29:23.000 That piece of it is disturbing since we all know now there was no connection to Paul Rickhoff, an Iraqi veteran who heads Operation Truth, an anti-administration military booster.

00:29:36.000 Transmission continues on the other side with a quick mini-guess concerning English not being the official language.

00:29:44.000 And then a ton of news in your calls.

00:29:45.000 You don't want to miss it.

00:29:47.000 Transmission continues on the other side.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

00:29:55.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:08.000 I got a star on my car and one on my chest.

00:33:11.000 A gun on my hip and the right to arrest.

00:33:14.000 I'm the guy who's the boss on this highway.

00:33:18.000 So watch out what you're doing when you're driving my way.

00:33:21.000 If you break the law, you'll hear from me I know.

00:33:24.000 I'm working for the state, I'm the highway patrol.

00:33:28.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:31.000 We've had the head of the Border Patrol Union on.

00:33:34.000 We've had retired Border Patrol agents on.

00:33:40.000 We've had so many experts here with us on the broadcast.

00:33:45.000 Just time and time again, I will tell you, it is a one world government stated plan.

00:33:51.000 Now the newest CFR plan is out for the Pan-American Union and our government is implementing.

00:33:58.000 The Canadian papers say it's the end of their sovereignty.

00:34:01.000 Our papers really won't report on it.

00:34:02.000 Lou Dobbs has talked about it.

00:34:04.000 And our government is doing everything they can to make sure our communities don't assimilate. 0.97

00:34:09.000 To make sure we don't have a melting pot.

00:34:12.000 To make sure we don't get along.

00:34:15.000 And really it hurts Latin Americans and Asians and others the most.

00:34:20.000 English is the world language.

00:34:23.000 It's that simple.

00:34:24.000 The English took over the Picts, and the Scotties, and the Welsh, and the Irish, and then they took over the planet with their ships. 0.63

00:34:33.000 Mainly because they have the secret of vitamin C. That's why they're known as linies.

00:34:38.000 Other people would laugh at them for carrying big kegs of lime around.

00:34:41.000 But that enabled their ships to have about twice the range.

00:34:44.000 Because their crews weren't dying of scurvy.

00:34:46.000 They had it for about 200 years before other countries figured it out.

00:34:50.000 So, English is the world language.

00:34:52.000 Sorry, it is.

00:34:55.000 But our government wants to break this country down and wants to hurt the sovereignty of this nation and the culture of this country.

00:35:04.000 And so they're doing everything they can.

00:35:06.000 And now seven major libraries in Denver, this is happening in other areas, are moving to make Spanish the first language.

00:35:15.000 You'll have to ask for someone to speak to you in English.

00:35:19.000 And we have the town again of El Cenizo.

00:35:21.000 There's been a ten-part series in the San Antonio Express News by, what is it, David Garza, wrote some great articles down there.

00:35:30.000 And now it's eight different towns, since they first did that ten part series five years ago, eight different towns fly the Mexican flag, no American flag allowed, and no English allowed!

00:35:42.000 And the feds don't swoop in and say it's discrimination! 1.00

00:35:46.000 So you also have the government, these interests that want to break this country down, playing off of these very nationalistic, very hateful attitudes towards the United States.

00:35:58.000 And joining us to talk about this for the next ten minutes or so, and he just got over pneumonia, so he can barely talk.

00:36:04.000 I mean, you know, so we're not going to keep him too long.

00:36:07.000 I mean, I've had this before where my voice is shot with laryngitis, not with pneumonia.

00:36:12.000 But Ron Tuchel, And Ron is one of the chiefs over there at U.S.

00:36:20.000 English.

00:36:21.000 It is the nation's oldest and largest non-partisan citizen's action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language.

00:36:28.000 One of the few things Schwarzenegger has done that's good, I believe, is be a member of that.

00:36:32.000 One of the few good things we can say about him, but a side issue.

00:36:36.000 Mr. Tunkel, thanks for coming on with us.

00:36:39.000 Thanks for having me, Alex.

00:36:39.000 My pleasure.

00:36:41.000 You bet.

00:36:41.000 Tell us about your position at U.S.

00:36:43.000 English and then let's get into this latest outrage. 0.51

00:36:46.000 Sure.

00:36:46.000 I'm the Director of Communications and Research here.

00:36:49.000 We are dedicated, as you said, to preserving our common language and making sure that English remains our unifying factor in our nation.

00:36:59.000 Sounds good to me.

00:37:00.000 I mean, number one, it's helping.

00:37:03.000 Russians or Asians or a Venezuelan to learn English.

00:37:07.000 I mean, the first thing the Japanese, the Chinese, the Germans, the Dutch, the French do is teach their kids how to speak English.

00:37:15.000 That's right.

00:37:16.000 They're doing it in Mongolia now, in Chile, in Egypt.

00:37:20.000 They're doing it around the world.

00:37:21.000 They're focusing on English learning.

00:37:24.000 Meanwhile, the United States remains Well, what are we doing here?

00:37:28.000 Let's just face it.

00:37:29.000 You know, all cultures are not equal. 1.00

00:37:30.000 I'm just going to say it.

00:37:31.000 And English, as a spoken word, and as a written, is dominant.

00:37:36.000 And people should just give in to it, instead of trying to resist it.

00:37:40.000 Well English, parents know around the world that English is the key to their children's success and that's why in China as I speak, hundreds of millions of people are learning English because they know that when the Olympics come and things open up in China, English is going to be the key to better jobs.

00:38:00.000 We also need to talk about English.

00:38:02.000 English is the most Mongrel-type language there is. 1.00

00:38:08.000 It formed out of about eight different Germanic dialects, Scandinavian Viking dialects, Roman, Greek, combinations of Latin.

00:38:21.000 It's also not just the world language because of the British Empire, because there were other Dutch and French and Spanish empires that were almost as big.

00:38:29.000 It is so versatile because it does recombine and grow and expand.

00:38:35.000 That's right.

00:38:35.000 We borrow from many other languages.

00:38:37.000 You look in a dictionary where the words came about, and it's from all different nations, all different walks of life, that have come together in English.

00:38:47.000 Absolutely.

00:38:48.000 And so again, for those that don't want to learn English, you're just hurting yourselves.

00:38:53.000 You know, I had a lady one time go, well, when I was in school, my teacher said, you've got to learn English, and she was racist and mean. 1.00

00:38:59.000 And I told the lady, I said, no, she was, did she say she was trying to help you?

00:39:03.000 If she didn't like you, she wouldn't try to make you learn English. 0.71

00:39:09.000 That's right.

00:39:09.000 There are millions of people around this nation who want to help people learn English and are looking for that opportunity so that they can make sure.

00:39:17.000 That we succeed as a nation, that we become a strong nation and going forward.

00:39:23.000 What's going on with this, this disgusting, I mean who's behind this move to make seven big libraries Spanish first? 0.52

00:39:30.000 Well, the Denver library officials have created this language and learning program Which would basically make seven of the Denver libraries Spanish dominant.

00:39:40.000 So that if you wanted to go find some English books, if you were a student or you were an elderly resident looking for a novel, that you would have to ask, well, where's the back room where you keep the English books?

00:39:53.000 It's an absolutely crazy plan.

00:39:57.000 If Denver wanted to change some of their highways to have signs only in Spanish, I think the world would be up in arms.

00:40:05.000 I wouldn't joke.

00:40:06.000 I mean, almost every... not almost.

00:40:08.000 Every time I make a joke, it's announced two weeks later.

00:40:13.000 Well, certainly I think the American public would revolt if that happened.

00:40:17.000 If they were driving out on an interstate and they always... Well, always.

00:40:20.000 Whatever the worst thing is, you can imagine they do.

00:40:22.000 So I predict within one year, we will start seeing Spanish on the road signs.

00:40:26.000 Well, last year we were able to get a rider into a transportation bill that banned that practice for a year.

00:40:33.000 Oh! 0.60

00:40:34.000 So it's already being attempted, okay, see.

00:40:36.000 Yes, now we've got to do that again to ban it for 2006.

00:40:38.000 See, no matter how horrible, okay, so it's already happened, okay.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 It's always worse than I thought.

00:40:44.000 Okay, people who think I exaggerate, folks, no, it's worse.

00:40:47.000 Let me just ask you, who is behind this idea?

00:40:52.000 This is a group of librarians who think they are benefiting society somehow.

00:40:59.000 I can't understand how they want to give things to one-third of the population that is supposedly Hispanic, even though a lot of them likely speak English and succeed and do things as Americans.

00:41:12.000 I cannot understand why they want to segregate their libraries to one small group of the population.

00:41:19.000 Well that's what multiculturalism is.

00:41:21.000 It was only meant to destroy existing strong minority communities. 0.55

00:41:26.000 Then they reform them under government control and use them as political tools.

00:41:31.000 Well that's exactly right.

00:41:32.000 We have always been a diverse society that has come together under one language and as one people to succeed.

00:41:40.000 And this seems to be pulling us apart and wanting to take us in different directions.

00:41:44.000 Well, I wonder if, let's say, you know, national average, what is it, 14% of the population is what you'd call Latin or Hispanic or Latino.

00:41:52.000 I don't know what name everybody I talk to wants to be called by a different term.

00:41:55.000 How about Americans?

00:41:56.000 But, but, but, you know, we got 14% that are from other, you know, countries south of the border, former colonies of Spain or Portugal, so they speak Spanish, and they're up here.

00:42:06.000 Now imagine you have 14% of a town in Mexico.

00:42:10.000 Why are you doing this?

00:42:11.000 This is a Spanish-speaking nation.

00:42:13.000 Now the libraries are going to be in English first.

00:42:16.000 They'd laugh at us.

00:42:17.000 They would have a ball in it.

00:42:20.000 They'd be like, why are you doing this?

00:42:21.000 This is the Spanish-speaking nation.

00:42:23.000 Just like here, we're an English-speaking nation, and our libraries and our police stations and everything should be in English.

00:42:32.000 Well, there's a big joke going around, haha, you're going to have to learn how to speak English.

00:42:37.000 Or, I mean, you're going to have to learn how to speak Spanish.

00:42:39.000 Hey, I want to learn how to speak Spanish.

00:42:41.000 I want to learn how to speak Japanese.

00:42:43.000 You know, I want to learn how to speak German.

00:42:47.000 I mean, that's good.

00:42:48.000 But the point is that the dominant first language is what you should be aspiring to.

00:42:54.000 So, I mean, you know, it's crazy.

00:42:55.000 There's almost like this arrogance that, oh, we're not going to learn English.

00:43:00.000 Well, all you're doing is hurting yourself.

00:43:03.000 Well, that's right.

00:43:03.000 Many colleges have a foreign language requirement.

00:43:06.000 I took seven years of Spanish during school.

00:43:09.000 It's great for people to learn other languages, but certainly if we moved to a nation where English wasn't the main language, we would learn that language.

00:43:18.000 That would be our survival tool in that nation.

00:43:21.000 And that should be the way it is for people moving to the United States.

00:43:25.000 We need to keep stressing English learning.

00:43:30.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:43:34.000 It's just nauseating to see this happening.

00:43:39.000 Are they going to be able to have these major seven libraries go Spanish?

00:43:43.000 We're hoping no.

00:43:44.000 The public in Denver has come out against it.

00:43:48.000 Representative Tancredo of Colorado has taken the plan and said this should not be allowed to stand.

00:43:54.000 So we are hoping that we're going to nip this one in the bud.

00:43:58.000 What else is going on?

00:44:00.000 I mean, the people are trying to change road signs.

00:44:02.000 What's next?

00:44:04.000 Well, we have a retired colonel in Oregon who suggested earlier in the week that we make the U.S.

00:44:10.000 military entrance exam, we give it in Spanish as well.

00:44:15.000 Well, they're going to have to do that.

00:44:16.000 Did you know that over 20% of the ground forces in Iraq are not Hispanic?

00:44:21.000 They're illegal aliens who were instantly legalized. 0.93

00:44:26.000 So we could get to a situation where we have almost an entirely foreign army.

00:44:30.000 Well, I can't imagine an army where they can't speak English.

00:44:34.000 I mean, war is troubling enough to have the confusion of a language barrier.

00:44:39.000 They're just going to put Spanish-speaking generals over them. 1.00

00:44:42.000 Got a report here of border patrol agents who are actually Mexican citizens, we're now learning, who are covertly working for the Mexican government.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, that made the front page of the Washington Times here today.

00:44:49.000 Did you hear about that?

00:44:53.000 Yeah, and I'm sure you know about the State Department travel advisory saying South Texas is more dangerous than Israel?

00:45:01.000 I have not seen that one, no.

00:45:02.000 So you haven't heard about the rocket-propelled grenade attacks and the hundreds of dead?

00:45:06.000 The kidnappings, the car bombings in Dallas?

00:45:09.000 No, I have not.

00:45:10.000 They've done a really good job of keeping it quiet.

00:45:13.000 So, you haven't heard about them closing the U.S.

00:45:16.000 mission?

00:45:17.000 The U.S.

00:45:18.000 Embassy in Nuevo Laredo?

00:45:20.000 No.

00:45:22.000 Go to InfoWars.com.

00:45:24.000 We've got a big section on it today.

00:45:26.000 See, this is what I'm talking about.

00:45:27.000 I know you're a smart guy.

00:45:29.000 You were up on everything I mentioned.

00:45:31.000 I wasn't up on trying to change the road signs.

00:45:34.000 You obviously probably know more about this than I do, but you don't even know about literal anarchy going on right now, did you?

00:45:41.000 No, I mean, there are definitely some problems in our border communities.

00:45:44.000 There's no doubt about that.

00:45:46.000 Eighteen dead cops on their side, five dead cops on our side in the month of June?

00:45:52.000 You didn't hear about that?

00:45:53.000 No.

00:45:54.000 That's because the news, folks, is not... There'll be a Reuters report, a little CBS News online report, but nothing big.

00:46:02.000 Well, I mean, you know, talking about cultures, too.

00:46:04.000 With the language comes a culture.

00:46:06.000 And I'll be honest with you. 0.85

00:46:07.000 I think the Nazi culture was despicable and evil and bad. 0.99

00:46:11.000 A culture of death, a culture of black uniforms. 1.00

00:46:14.000 I think the Soviet culture that Stalin had that killed 50 million people was a horrible culture. 0.98

00:46:19.000 I think the Aztec culture of sacrificing 10,000 people on average every year, many of them small children, I can make a moral judgment. 0.99

00:46:28.000 It's just nature's laws and the laws of nature's God that, you know, if I run up to an African and steal his knife, he knows that's wrong. 1.00

00:46:39.000 That's nature's law.

00:46:41.000 Well, nature's law says that all of these things that are happening, says these cultures are bad. 1.00

00:46:50.000 Okay, I'm sure there's some good aspects, but the culture of kickbacks and corruption, and 90% of people being total peon slaves, is not a culture I want.

00:46:59.000 And now we've got Mordedo, kickbacks, all of this corruption, and the same people that are feeding off their immigrant populations, they want to keep those immigrant populations under their control and ignorant, and not speaking English, being empowered. 0.95

00:47:13.000 Do you agree with that?

00:47:15.000 It has come clear time to have an immigration and language policy for this country.

00:47:20.000 I think we've gone on way too long and I know you and your listeners would agree that Teddy Roosevelt did a great job a hundred years ago stressing immigration, assimilation, Americanization and English and since then we've just been We've lost control of it.

00:47:37.000 Well, we were the most liberal immigration policies in the world, but still you had to be checked for TB at Ellis Island.

00:47:44.000 Now, TB's exploding, whooping coughs exploding.

00:47:47.000 They've had a whole bunch of deaths in Austin of your kids, folks.

00:47:50.000 They go to school, the illegal alien from Russia or Mexico coughs on them, they die. 0.99

00:47:56.000 We've had 7,000 cases of leprosy, wet leprosy, last year.

00:48:02.000 On an average, we only had 10 cases a year before that.

00:48:05.000 I mean, 7,000 cases of leprosy?

00:48:07.000 CDC?

00:48:08.000 Doesn't that sound delicious?

00:48:11.000 The Childhood Immunization Project, which had looked so well in the late 70s, we were gearing towards knocking some of these diseases out.

00:48:20.000 And now, I know, I'm a volunteer in an emergency room here.

00:48:23.000 We're bringing some of these things back.

00:48:26.000 And it's a very scary proposition for all Americans.

00:48:29.000 Well, I mean, leprosy, we haven't had in a hundred years.

00:48:32.000 No.

00:48:33.000 But now, out in East Texas, they've got the biggest facility in the U.S.

00:48:37.000 for lepers, and it's jam-packed.

00:48:42.000 7,000 lepers.

00:48:45.000 Boy, this is just wonderful.

00:48:47.000 I mean, I'm sorry.

00:48:49.000 I mean, if Haiti's so great, why don't we all move there? 1.00

00:48:52.000 Because it's not great, folks.

00:48:54.000 If Russia's so great, why don't we all move there? 1.00

00:48:58.000 I mean, I know you guys are focusing on English only, or English being the central language, USEnglish.org, just USEnglish, USEnglish.org, we have a link to it.

00:49:09.000 But isn't this an attack on America?

00:49:14.000 This is, in a way, a very big problem for America.

00:49:18.000 This is something we're going to have to answer.

00:49:20.000 We are not going to be able to just let in whoever, whenever, wherever, and ask no questions.

00:49:28.000 Thousands, millions of immigrants came to the United States.

00:49:32.000 They filled out paperwork.

00:49:33.000 They submitted to medical exams.

00:49:36.000 This was, hey, we have the door open for you.

00:49:39.000 You just need to do this.

00:49:41.000 And then after we let you in, You need to go learn English.

00:49:45.000 You need to go attain citizenship. 0.98

00:49:47.000 What happened to that?

00:49:48.000 Well, this shows the attitude of the American haters.

00:49:53.000 This shows their attitude, what they want for this country, how they want to break us up into an international conglomerate.

00:49:59.000 And look, even in Houston now, and other areas, they've got cops out doing random searches and checkpoints of bags.

00:50:06.000 Cops are going to search me and point a machine gun at me because I might be a terrorist, and there's no Fourth Amendment, but my border's wide open.

00:50:15.000 Mr. Tunkel, that doesn't hold water.

00:50:18.000 No, it doesn't.

00:50:19.000 If any of your listeners haven't been near a border lately, just try to go near the Canadian border.

00:50:25.000 I was up there a few weeks ago, and hundreds of miles in the middle of the New York Adirondacks, they have signs, you know, you better not be carrying anything close to this border, you better not be carrying anything.

00:50:39.000 I don't understand it.

00:50:42.000 Exactly.

00:50:43.000 I really appreciate you coming on, sir, and we can get updates there at usenglish.org.

00:50:47.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:50:48.000 My pleasure.

00:50:49.000 Thank you.

00:50:50.000 Take care.

00:50:51.000 Get better.

00:50:51.000 All right.

00:50:52.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:50:54.000 Stay with us.

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00:54:10.000 We have another guest coming on who was arrested for asking Lord Rumsfeld.

00:54:19.000 Once more, Lord Rumsfeld will rule the galaxy.

00:54:22.000 We're going to be talking about that coming up in the next hour for about 20 minutes or so.

00:54:29.000 Another mini guest.

00:54:31.000 And then I've just got so much news.

00:54:33.000 We're also going to give you an in-depth update on the hammer-and-tongs, hammer-and-anvil breakdown of our border and the total, complete bedlam on the Texas-Mexico border.

00:54:50.000 Again, the average people in America have no idea what I just talked about with the last guest.

00:55:01.000 Bedlam down here.

00:55:02.000 Bedlam.

00:55:04.000 And we have Dallas Morning News, Brownsville Newspaper, Fox News clips locally.

00:55:09.000 I mean, everything I'm saying is there on the site.

00:55:11.000 I mean, it's worse than I'm saying.

00:55:13.000 It takes hours to read it all.

00:55:16.000 Hundreds of deaths per month.

00:55:17.000 Hundreds of deaths.

00:55:19.000 Dozens of dead police.

00:55:20.000 I mean, it is insane.

00:55:23.000 Okay, I'm... It's still, it's freaking me out.

00:55:27.000 That something this big... I'm amazed!

00:55:30.000 You know, it's good that I can still be amazed on so many issues.

00:55:33.000 I go, oh, Tommy Thompson, former secretary in the cabinet, is traveling the country to elementary and middle schools telling children get microchips.

00:55:41.000 Can you imagine?

00:55:42.000 Uh, kids, it's time to go hear the secretary.

00:55:44.000 You know, he was the secretary of Health and Human Services, and he's a good guy.

00:55:50.000 Let's go hear him.

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00:55:54.000 Please take the microchip.

00:55:56.000 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do!

00:55:57.000 I mean, just, just, and I know I keep saying that every day.

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00:56:02.000 But the first time I heard it, I was like, okay, no big deal.

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00:56:06.000 I've become desensitized.

00:56:08.000 This is cuckoo for Cocoa Pops crazy.

00:56:12.000 I mean, this is cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. 0.97

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:19.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are now in tune Hour number two.

00:59:27.000 Coming up, we'll talk to accredited member of the press, Jeff Norman.

00:59:33.000 Asked Lord Rumsfeld a question at the conclusion of Rumsfeld's little press conference.

00:59:38.000 A speech he gave, and Lord Rumsfeld did not like the question and said, Seize that man! 0.60

00:59:44.000 All part of what our Founding Fathers fought and died for, so he could be ordered around by little twits like Demon Rumsfeld.

00:59:51.000 Right now, let's go to your calls, Kenny, in the great state of Florida, down there with Lord Bush.

00:59:57.000 Go ahead, Kenny.

00:59:58.000 Hey, thanks Alex.

00:59:59.000 I really enjoy your show.

01:00:00.000 Good to have you on board with us.

01:00:01.000 Enjoy your phone call.

01:00:03.000 What's on your mind?

01:00:04.000 I got two items.

01:00:05.000 First of all, just recently this morning on the news I noticed a comment that Cooley Nolan, the pest control service, which has the little yellow Volkswagen, had been unofficially used by the government for private police, you know, turning in information.

01:00:26.000 But now that it was announced today that they are going to be officially trained by the police department to be private police.

01:00:33.000 Well, for those that don't know, you pay the carpet cleaner $150 to come clean your carpets.

01:00:39.000 And you're paying to have them spy on you.

01:00:42.000 And I'm a pretty perceptive person, but it's not hard to catch it.

01:00:45.000 They're looking around.

01:00:47.000 You'll catch them looking in stuff, looking in boxes on your mantel.

01:00:51.000 And I'll just go, hey buddy!

01:00:53.000 I don't use government drugs.

01:00:55.000 Then they get really paranoid.

01:00:57.000 Or no, I was at the Carpet Cleaner and looked at the gun in a gun case.

01:01:01.000 They saw the NYPD blew the night before where it's set in New York and guns are illegal. 1.00

01:01:06.000 They're really stupid. 1.00

01:01:08.000 And what you just brought up is such a big point. 1.00

01:01:10.000 Send me that news article.

01:01:12.000 I was familiar with that exterminator group, but yeah, it's going to be official now that the exterminators, it's part of the TIPS program.

01:01:21.000 They get paid.

01:01:22.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:01:23.000 They made it sound like a really good thing.

01:01:25.000 Oh, it's to fight Al-Qaeda, yeah.

01:01:27.000 Fight crime.

01:01:28.000 Another item that I wanted to talk about was Condoleezza Rice.

01:01:31.000 She wrote a little article in the Foreign Affairs, I don't know if you ever brought this up, but it's a publication of the CFR.

01:01:38.000 And you know, so much talk about Downing Street Memo.

01:01:41.000 About how Bush had never planned prior to 9-11 to take out Saddam Hussein.

01:01:48.000 And then she just wrote an article admitting it.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, well she wrote the article before Bush was even elected.

01:01:53.000 And it said that one of his priorities would be the removal of Saddam Hussein.

01:01:58.000 And she also put in little quotes.

01:02:00.000 We will no longer be, quote, You know, I've even forgotten about that and that's online.

01:02:06.000 Do me a favor.

01:02:06.000 See, Kenny, you're a smart person.

01:02:08.000 Thank you.

01:02:08.000 You know, I've even forgotten about that, and that's online.

01:02:11.000 Do me a favor.

01:02:11.000 See, Kenny, you're a smart person.

01:02:14.000 Thank you.

01:02:14.000 I can't do it all.

01:02:16.000 You should write an article about that.

01:02:18.000 Take excerpts of that.

01:02:20.000 You should email it to tips at Infowars.com.

01:02:25.000 You should email it to Paul over at Prison Planet.

01:02:27.000 It says contact webmaster.

01:02:29.000 You should write an article about the exterminator being a spy.

01:02:32.000 You should write an article.

01:02:33.000 It'll take you 30 minutes.

01:02:35.000 Why don't you do that and help us?

01:02:36.000 We want to warn people.

01:02:38.000 Yeah, I'm right now working on trying to get a public access channel for it.

01:02:42.000 But listen, even bigger than that now.

01:02:44.000 We have millions of readers a week, sir.

01:02:47.000 I mean, people will write a letter to the editor for a big town newspaper that maybe 30,000 people might read your letter.

01:02:54.000 Folks, we are bigger now than most major newspapers.

01:02:58.000 I want listeners to understand, I want your comments.

01:03:00.000 I want your emails.

01:03:02.000 I want your content.

01:03:04.000 I want your insights.

01:03:06.000 Listen, I get frustrated.

01:03:07.000 My brain started burning just now.

01:03:09.000 I was thinking about canceling my guest just to talk to you about this because... No, I'm not kidding here, Kenny.

01:03:16.000 Because this is the type of stuff that we should be talking about.

01:03:19.000 Absolutely.

01:03:20.000 The phone man, the exterminator, the appliance person.

01:03:23.000 Listen.

01:03:24.000 You buy a thousand dollar appliance and these guys are spying on you and now they're publicly all over the country.

01:03:32.000 I've seen the reports.

01:03:34.000 I haven't ranted about this in six months.

01:03:36.000 Training them to spy on you? 0.99

01:03:37.000 Disgusting. 0.97

01:03:39.000 Well I mean the cops need a warrant. 0.97

01:03:42.000 We're getting our guest on but stay there Kenny.

01:03:43.000 I want to talk about this more when we get back.

01:03:45.000 Our guest is coming up.

01:03:46.000 Kidnapped by the government just like I was.

01:03:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:07:15.000 Coming up in the next hour, we've got Glenn Spencer coming on about Well, the burning buildings, the rocket-propelled grenade attacks, the hundreds of dead, the dead police all over the place, the actual border war going on that there's a national news blackout on.

01:07:31.000 So, I mean, I'm right here in Texas, folks.

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01:07:38.000 It is scary.

01:07:40.000 The State Department says South Texas is now more dangerous than Israel.

01:07:46.000 But why aren't the people aware of it?

01:07:48.000 So that's coming up in the next hour.

01:07:50.000 I know we'll take a lot of calls this hour, a lot of news coming up as well.

01:07:55.000 We got a great guest who valiantly stood up to that neocon demon Rumsfeld and was arrested for just asking him a polite question, an accredited member of the press.

01:08:05.000 But I know some stations, dozens and dozens of our affiliates, Do not carry the first five minute segment and I want you to hear what Kennedy's talking about.

01:08:14.000 Now I'm not aware of the particular story he's talking about, but I have seen about, I don't know, 30-40 articles in the last year.

01:08:22.000 And he really hit a hot button with me.

01:08:24.000 I get mad at myself because I forget to talk about the most important stuff.

01:08:29.000 And under the TIPS program, the feds, with grants to city and county police, they're federalizing the cops, the phone man The phone lady, the exterminator, the carpet cleaner, and I mean, I've had run-ins with them, folks.

01:08:44.000 When they're in your house, they are spying on you.

01:08:48.000 Had a friend in college who was, uh, his girlfriend was, uh, growing orchids. 0.96

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01:08:56.000 She's got a degree in it now.

01:08:58.000 And, uh, you know, they live in the apartment two doors down.

01:09:00.000 Good friends of mine.

01:09:01.000 You know, went on trips with them and stuff.

01:09:02.000 Went water skiing.

01:09:03.000 Good, really clean cut, you know, running eight miles every morning.

01:09:07.000 I mean, you're talking Boy Scouts.

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01:09:15.000 You know, I mean, we're talking Mr. Good. 1.00

01:09:17.000 And this idiot carpet cleaner comes in, sees the orchids. 1.00

01:09:20.000 Now, clearly, marijuana doesn't look like an orchid. 1.00

01:09:23.000 It was her, you know, class project.

01:09:26.000 One of her jobs, one of her things she was told to do.

01:09:31.000 What's it called?

01:09:32.000 It was her work she was given.

01:09:34.000 And they came and knocked down their door and screamed at them and pointed machine guns at them and then went, well this isn't marijuana.

01:09:40.000 Didn't apologize, just left.

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01:09:49.000 He died, she still has them. 0.51

01:09:50.000 Take a lot of energy.

01:09:52.000 And they knew that it was one person in a small house using too much power, SWAT teamed her. 0.99

01:09:58.000 Well, folks, I have the carpet cleaner in my house.

01:10:02.000 And this is about five years ago, and there is a gun in a gun case, uh, that you can buy at any gun shop, locked up, and the person starts looking at it and looking at me.

01:10:12.000 You know, like he was a, uh, Sylvester, you know, caught eating Tweety Bird.

01:10:19.000 And, uh, He said, are you allowed to have that?

01:10:21.000 And I said, buddy, it's Texas.

01:10:23.000 What are you talking about?

01:10:25.000 Because I know the programming.

01:10:26.000 I knew he probably watched NYPD Blue the night before, where every gun is illegal.

01:10:31.000 And they put up these billboards saying, report illegal guns.

01:10:34.000 People see those.

01:10:35.000 It's a picture of a revolver.

01:10:37.000 They're all over Texas.

01:10:37.000 They're all over places with almost no gun control laws.

01:10:41.000 And people get cops called on them every day.

01:10:43.000 And I said, listen to me.

01:10:44.000 You see the front page of the paper?

01:10:46.000 Here I am at a gun rally.

01:10:47.000 Literally, I did this.

01:10:48.000 I said, you do not go call the police on me.

01:10:51.000 We're going to go to our guest in a minute.

01:10:52.000 I've just got to say this because the caller hit my hot button.

01:10:55.000 I want Kenny to be able to comment in a second.

01:10:58.000 And man, I had a feeling.

01:10:59.000 And unfortunately, my feelings are never wrong.

01:11:02.000 And I called up the carpet cleaner place and I said, this is Alex Jones calling.

01:11:08.000 Your person was acting weird about a gun, a locked gun case.

01:11:12.000 Uh, and I got the manager on, he goes, Mr. Jones, know who you are, listen, don't worry, we had a discussion about it, we explained it to him.

01:11:18.000 Sure enough, folks, that guy wanted to call the cops.

01:11:21.000 Well, his young assistant, who was a Texan, this guy was from up north, I'm doing the TV show that night, talking about it, I take a call, and it's his assistant, going, oh yeah, he wanted to call the cops on you when we left.

01:11:33.000 And I said it was wrong, and I got fired today.

01:11:38.000 So when they announce in Florida, that big exterminator outfit, who I'm well aware of, It's a nationwide group, or at least a regional.

01:11:44.000 I've seen the yellow Volkswagen with the green bug on top.

01:11:49.000 I know they're in Dallas.

01:11:50.000 When they announce they're going to be trained by police to spy on you, the cops got to have a warrant to do that.

01:11:56.000 It's illegal if they don't.

01:11:58.000 But you see, you let them in for a service, they're spying on you.

01:12:04.000 And folks, even if you don't have anything illegal, I mean, people are so sick. 0.98

01:12:09.000 These tattletales are so sick, folks.

01:12:11.000 It's like the Associated Press and World Net Daily article Monday. 0.82

01:12:15.000 The father, no criminal record, has his second baby.

01:12:19.000 Baby's a couple months old.

01:12:20.000 Kisses it on the belly. 0.98

01:12:22.000 The photograph's been published.

01:12:23.000 Clearly kissing the baby on the belly. 0.86

01:12:25.000 I mean, folks, I think we're all guilty of that.

01:12:28.000 I mean, we just love to tickle and kiss our babies on the belly. 1.00

01:12:31.000 He spent six months in jail until they finally dropped the charges.

01:12:35.000 So they see the picture on the coffee table, on the wall, you kissing the baby on the belly, you're going to prison!

01:12:42.000 They see a shotgun on the wall, you're going to get swapped in, they're going to blow your guts all over the wall, you know, like they do every day, because they're trigger happy.

01:12:51.000 They smell some incense, they think it's dope.

01:12:54.000 Look, I don't smoke pot, I don't do drugs, I take aspirin maybe twice a year.

01:13:00.000 I don't have anything to hide, and by the way, Chertoff's in the news today going, well, if you don't have anything to hide, America, what are you worried about the Pentagon watching you?

01:13:08.000 Give me a break, that's Guatemala, that's Soviet Union. 0.98

01:13:12.000 I'm ranting, our guest is holding, I'm being very rude, I never do this, it's just the caller hit my hot button, folks.

01:13:18.000 And all over the country, they're recruiting people to spy on you.

01:13:23.000 For CPS, is the house dirty?

01:13:25.000 And they're getting money for it.

01:13:27.000 All right.

01:13:28.000 Real fast, Kenny, finish up.

01:13:30.000 When you saw this on the news, what did you think?

01:13:33.000 Well, I just, I looked at it as 9-11 being a tool to kind of fast track their plans for this global union.

01:13:41.000 Oh, they're claiming it's to fight terror?

01:13:42.000 Yeah, they used the pretense of terrorism, and then they just, it opened the door for anything.

01:13:48.000 Well, Kip said they're going to fight terror and crime.

01:13:52.000 But notice the police are going to train that local group.

01:13:55.000 And the average person will say, well that's wonderful, we'll get rid of crime.

01:13:59.000 But, you know, there's so many little minute laws that most people don't even realize that it's probably a violation of the law.

01:14:05.000 Look, Russia, Nazi Germany, East Germany, Pinochet, Chile.

01:14:10.000 Folks, you do not have the service people all being spies!

01:14:15.000 And they already are!

01:14:17.000 Look, there's the famous case of the entrepreneur, African American, He's flying to Houston from Atlanta, Georgia.

01:14:27.000 He flies down each year.

01:14:28.000 He gets a big discount to make his yearly buy of trees.

01:14:31.000 $24,000.

01:14:32.000 He's done it, you know, for 10 years previous.

01:14:36.000 This even makes 60 minutes.

01:14:37.000 But it's one case of 1,000 I've seen.

01:14:39.000 And he pulls out cash.

01:14:42.000 He starts panting.

01:14:43.000 He says, are you carrying cash?

01:14:43.000 He goes, uh-huh, yes, ma'am.

01:14:45.000 I'm carrying $24,000 cash.

01:14:46.000 And I'm going to be going to a place.

01:14:49.000 And she says, oh, where are you going?

01:14:50.000 I'm going to buy these trees.

01:14:53.000 And she said, excuse me, got on the phone, cops came, took the money, and she got $3,000 of it. 0.83

01:14:59.000 And there have been national news stories where one of those ticket clerks is making $30,000 as a clerk and $150,000 off bonuses.

01:15:09.000 These people are rolling in cash!

01:15:10.000 Yeah, it makes you wonder what truly no one gets out of it.

01:15:15.000 Oh, of course they get a percentage.

01:15:17.000 You didn't see the USA Today article last year?

01:15:20.000 SCOP laws get caught.

01:15:23.000 USA Today headline, SCOP laws get caught ordering pizzas.

01:15:27.000 And it said, all the major chains, when you call to get a pizza, instantly run you through a database, and they get 20% of fines or fees.

01:15:34.000 Instead of a pizza, you get a SWAT team.

01:15:36.000 Thanks for the call.

01:15:37.000 Bye.

01:15:37.000 Thank you.

01:15:38.000 Folks, I'm not joking.

01:15:39.000 Okay, I apologize to our guest, our esteemed guest.

01:15:42.000 I just, that was a very important point we had to make.

01:15:46.000 And I'm mad, I mean, I think we should start confronting service people and going, hey, you're not spying on me, are you?

01:15:52.000 Because I'm going to sue your company.

01:15:54.000 I'm putting you on notice.

01:15:57.000 I'm tired of, I learned about this the hard way, folks.

01:16:01.000 The guy was acting afraid.

01:16:03.000 You had to have that? 1.00

01:16:04.000 Because I'm a total idiot. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Okay, I'm sorry. 0.99

01:16:07.000 Jeff Norman, accredited member of the press, he goes to a meeting and speaks and after Lord Rumsfeld gives his speech he gets arrested, which has happened to me.

01:16:18.000 Thank you for holding and it's good to have you on, Jeff.

01:16:21.000 Thanks, Doc.

01:16:22.000 Did you say I'm a steamed guest or an esteemed guest?

01:16:25.000 Esteemed.

01:16:26.000 I'm steamed, too, actually.

01:16:28.000 Hey, listen.

01:16:29.000 You can type in Alex Jones arrested by Bush into Google.

01:16:32.000 You'll get the video.

01:16:33.000 In 98, at the end of his speech, it was a pre-released speech, and Bush had me arrested just because I asked him a question.

01:16:41.000 What was your question?

01:16:43.000 It was, don't you care about America, Governor?

01:16:45.000 Don't you care about the Council on Foreign Relations, the Federal Reserve, and their economic policies hurting America?

01:16:51.000 I was actually kidnapped for an hour and then thrown out on the side of the highway.

01:16:57.000 And were you charged with anything?

01:16:59.000 No, it was just like Alan Keyes.

01:17:01.000 Remember when he was supposed to be at the debates?

01:17:04.000 They grabbed him for an hour?

01:17:05.000 Right.

01:17:06.000 I'm going to shut up because we're about to break.

01:17:08.000 I want to hold you over.

01:17:10.000 Tell us what happened to you.

01:17:11.000 Give us the details.

01:17:12.000 I was at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills on Thursday where Donald Rumsfeld was speaking at a World Affairs Council luncheon.

01:17:20.000 And Nadia McCaffrey, who's the mother of a soldier who was killed in Iraq, attempted to approach Rumsfeld to speak to him, and she was blocked by security.

01:17:31.000 So when he was walking out of the ballroom, and he got fairly near the media area where I was sitting, I stepped into the aisle and I said, Mr. Rumsfeld, military families think you're lying to them.

01:17:42.000 Why won't you meet with them?

01:17:44.000 And then two Secret Service thugs immediately dragged me out.

01:17:47.000 Now, you weren't accredited to even be there, but you addressed a God.

01:17:52.000 I mean, even in England, 300 years ago, a commoner could demand an audience with the king, could talk to the king.

01:17:59.000 You dared try to talk to a Lord with more power than Henry VIII?

01:18:04.000 Imagine that.

01:18:06.000 And I'm not sure whether it's relevant that I was a member of the media.

01:18:09.000 In other words, why shouldn't a member of the audience be allowed to speak?

01:18:12.000 Because that's a God, and you're not allowed to talk to God.

01:18:15.000 Yeah, right.

01:18:17.000 So I'm struggling to figure out whether or not it's relevant that I was in the media area.

01:18:22.000 But in any event, I was.

01:18:23.000 And I did what I've seen ever since I was a little kid.

01:18:26.000 I've seen reporters shout out questions.

01:18:30.000 And only with this administration is it treated as some sort of a crime.

01:18:33.000 Oh, everything's gonna be a crime, didn't you know?

01:18:36.000 Well, I'm learning fast.

01:18:37.000 Blair's about to ban criticizing the government, literally.

01:18:41.000 Did you sue the Secret Service for what happened to you?

01:18:44.000 You know, the ACLU, which is loyal opposition, talked to me about it.

01:18:47.000 I'm just so busy, I didn't sue them.

01:18:49.000 I'll tell you what, he was governor then, too.

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01:22:48.000 We're going to have him with us for another 15 minutes or so, then we'll take the calls of those that are holding our guest up.

01:23:06.000 Again, accredited media at the event.

01:23:09.000 And press all the time goes to these events and shouts out questions.

01:23:12.000 He walks over to Lord Rumsfeld, after they'd already kept the mother of one of the victims away from his lordship, the viceroy.

01:23:22.000 And then what happened next?

01:23:25.000 I mean, describe it blow by blow, Jeff Norman.

01:23:28.000 Well, I was in the media area, but nobody had said you have to stay there, or, you know, you can't say anything, or this and that.

01:23:35.000 There were no restrictions of any kind.

01:23:37.000 It was more to accommodate us.

01:23:39.000 They didn't make you sign worship pledges to get in like they normally do?

01:23:43.000 No, actually, it was surprisingly easy to get in.

01:23:46.000 And in fact, this is a point worth making, I might add, they had no metal detector.

01:23:51.000 And here they are in the middle of a war on terror, as they constantly say. 0.97

01:23:55.000 And any idiot like me or any, you know, with the media or anybody who bought a ticket for 60 bucks had a clear shot at the Secretary of Defense in the middle of a war on terror. 0.98

01:24:05.000 But instead of worrying about that, they're worried about questions that the reporters ask. 1.00

01:24:11.000 So, I mean, they totally misunderstand what their role is.

01:24:15.000 By the way, I'm glad you said that.

01:24:16.000 All of this security is about training us how to be slaves and how to line up and show the commissary at our papers.

01:24:22.000 They know there's no real threat to Rumsfeld.

01:24:24.000 The only threat is your free speech.

01:24:26.000 They're talking about arresting Cindy Sheehan tomorrow.

01:24:30.000 It's a police state.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, right.

01:24:31.000 It really is.

01:24:32.000 And people think, oh, when you say that, you're being alarmist.

01:24:35.000 But look up what a police state is.

01:24:37.000 These are the characteristics of a police state.

01:24:40.000 Random, arbitrary arrests, secret military police, cameras, a no-due process.

01:24:46.000 We have every ingredient.

01:24:47.000 Well, I mean, earlier, before you came on, I was talking about how all over the news they're recruiting service people to spy on you in your house.

01:24:55.000 Right.

01:24:55.000 No, and that's why I was saying I didn't mind at all that you went on that rant, because it fits in exactly to what we're talking about.

01:25:02.000 The people who start talking about these other countries that have had police states, oh, it's not a police state here, well, all that means is the police state in some of these other countries is a bit more severe.

01:25:12.000 It doesn't mean that we don't have the characteristics, although we sure as hell do.

01:25:16.000 Well, they're certainly pushing the envelope, but I mean, I want to bring this up and then we'll get into what happened to you and then how you guys are organizing protests and demonstrations around the country.

01:25:26.000 At the same time, You know, all over the country we see them even trying to codify these laws with these free speech zones and all of this.

01:25:35.000 So they really are trying to violate our First Amendment.

01:25:39.000 I mean, we have them call up shop owners and say, Bush is going to be on a parade route.

01:25:44.000 Don't have any anti-Bush signs in your business.

01:25:48.000 Yeah, it's very blatant.

01:25:50.000 And, you know, I've got to say, the media, the mainstream media who were there didn't seem to align by what happened, which is very annoying.

01:25:58.000 Oh, that's what happens.

01:25:59.000 People get hauled away if they talk to the Lord.

01:26:01.000 Yeah.

01:26:04.000 I mean, in the old days, they all would have been shouting questions.

01:26:07.000 Yeah.

01:26:08.000 And they should have treated what happened to me as newsworthy.

01:26:10.000 I mean, everybody covered it.

01:26:12.000 I probably watched on C-SPAN a hundred, if I've watched one, you know, these big, you know, Fundraisers and meetings, and there's always press there that runs over to the powerful people to ask questions.

01:26:24.000 Yeah, ever since I was a little kid I've seen this.

01:26:27.000 It's such a cliche, you know, when Reagan was president, when he was going to the helicopter and held his hand up to his ear like he couldn't hear.

01:26:34.000 This is an image ingrained in my mind.

01:26:36.000 This is what you do.

01:26:37.000 This is what reporters are supposed to do. 0.99

01:26:39.000 It's unbelievable.

01:26:40.000 There's a picture of it, by the way, up at the US Tour of Duty website.

01:26:43.000 Yeah, give your website out.

01:26:44.000 It's ustourofduty.org.

01:26:48.000 And we were talking during the commercial break about how these guys in the Secret Service are like Mafia thugs.

01:26:54.000 Look at the photo on this website.

01:26:56.000 They really look like guys who are characters in The Sopranos.

01:27:00.000 Well, I mean, look at Armitage.

01:27:02.000 I mean, look, they're all like Dr. Evil.

01:27:04.000 Look at Negroponte, the Death Squad commander.

01:27:06.000 Yeah.

01:27:07.000 I mean, they are!

01:27:08.000 It's not like they look like Mafia.

01:27:11.000 These are our fellow humans.

01:27:12.000 I'm sure glad I'm an alien.

01:27:15.000 Well, I tell you, I had experiences with the Secret Service when Bush first got Secret Service protection during the 2000 run.

01:27:22.000 I was down there just trying to cover the Republicans and Democrats fighting with each other, hitting each other with signs.

01:27:29.000 I wasn't on either side, because I'm non-partisan.

01:27:31.000 Both parties are very corrupt, though Bush has taken it light years ahead now.

01:27:36.000 But back at that time, I was neutral.

01:27:39.000 In fact, frankly, a little bit, you know, I don't like Al Gore, but boy, now have I seen it.

01:27:44.000 And I'm there, and I thought, like, these can't be Secret Service.

01:27:48.000 They were acting like criminals I've known.

01:27:51.000 They had that mentality, that smirk, that predatory enjoyment.

01:27:55.000 So did you experience that?

01:27:58.000 Well, yeah, I don't know if I'd describe it exactly that way, but they're very smug.

01:28:04.000 And they're trying to pretend that they worked for the hotel, although with the cameras right in their face, they were smart enough not to say it explicitly.

01:28:12.000 But I'm sure they would have made that claim if the cameras weren't there.

01:28:15.000 But they kept saying, I'm on private property, I'm on private property, they'll have the police arrest me.

01:28:21.000 But you know, that's actually assault.

01:28:23.000 They could have told you to leave, and then if you didn't leave...

01:28:26.000 They could have put their hands on you.

01:28:28.000 You've got a lawsuit, my friend.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, I sure do. 1.00

01:28:31.000 You need to sue those un-American commissariat scumbags trying to destroy my country. 0.99

01:28:38.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

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01:32:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:32:04.000 Our forebears, our founding fathers and our founding mothers, sacrificed, died, gave up their farms, their plantations, their breweries, their publishing houses, their homes were burned.

01:32:20.000 They lost children.

01:32:21.000 They died.

01:32:22.000 So you could stand up and say something to a lord or a king.

01:32:27.000 So we would have freedom.

01:32:29.000 And you know, all the time I forget about all the experiences we've had.

01:32:32.000 You know, it's been on the local TV show several times.

01:32:36.000 Never put it in a film, and I really should.

01:32:39.000 But they had a four-part series last year called The New World Order with General Magus.

01:32:47.000 And they'd have in former CIA directors, deputy directors, and these are advertised as public.

01:32:53.000 The public needs to come.

01:32:54.000 It's going to be an auditorium B that holds 800 people.

01:32:57.000 And you go.

01:33:01.000 And the first few times we wait for a question and we go, well, they'd be saying, give up all your freedoms, troops on the street is good, World War 4, the Cold War was World War 3 to build a world government.

01:33:12.000 We've got to have World War 4 and start nuking the Muslims and concentration camps are needed. 1.00

01:33:18.000 I did put this on the website and play it on air. 0.94

01:33:20.000 We need to put all the Muslims in concentration camps and camps, they call them internment camps, Oh, what's the former ball-headed CIA director, Tom Woolsey.

01:33:32.000 Yeah, it's Woolsey. 0.97

01:33:34.000 We've got him at one of these meetings.

01:33:36.000 And by the... They actually had about seven meetings, but they had four called the New World Order.

01:33:40.000 But by the second one, you would just ask a normal question politely.

01:33:45.000 There'd be a few news cameras there, a lot of print media there.

01:33:48.000 When it came time, anybody could ask a question.

01:33:50.000 And literally, all of a sudden, you'd look up and there'd be about a 30-year-old, rock-hard guy in a suit, but it felt like that movie No Way Out, where Kevin Costner's being chased by the Special Forces killers, you know, in the plain suits.

01:34:03.000 Those guys walk over, excuse me!

01:34:06.000 You're gonna need to leave now!

01:34:07.000 You're trespassing!

01:34:08.000 But I just asked a question, I'm done.

01:34:10.000 It's time for you to go now, sir!

01:34:12.000 And I'm like, get the cameras, get the cameras!

01:34:13.000 And I go, oh really?

01:34:14.000 I need to go now?

01:34:15.000 Now you tell me exactly who you are!

01:34:17.000 The military's not supposed to be telling citizens what to do!

01:34:21.000 You're violating 1878 law, posse comitatus!

01:34:23.000 I want your name right now, soldier!

01:34:26.000 I want it right now!

01:34:28.000 And they will, and they'll just suddenly, you'll see a nod from one of the older guys and that person will leave.

01:34:33.000 I mean, folks, I've had to back off troops!

01:34:36.000 Oh, actually, wait a minute.

01:34:39.000 There's one from 1998, when I confronted General Barry McCaffrey, and these army intelligence types come over and try to get me to stop, and I tell them I got my rights back off.

01:34:49.000 So I got that, but not as bad as... I've even had them grab my arm before, or put their arm real hard on your collarbone and just kind of squeeze.

01:34:58.000 Time for you to go, Mr. Jones.

01:35:00.000 I mean, we have troops just salivating to run our lives, just salivating to order us around.

01:35:06.000 Man, I'm out of control today because I'm angry, folks!

01:35:09.000 This is my country! 0.99

01:35:12.000 And I'll go confront your war pigs anytime I want! 1.00

01:35:17.000 That's enough. 1.00

01:35:17.000 I'm going to shut up now. 1.00

01:35:19.000 Jeff, Norman, everything I'm talking about here, you know, what happened to you?

01:35:24.000 Did you look in Lord Rumsfeld's eyes when you confronted him and then finish up what the goons did to you?

01:35:29.000 And then let's talk about ways to fight this.

01:35:31.000 Okay, yeah, because I'm definitely going to fight it, and we are fighting it already.

01:35:36.000 Now, I wasn't face-to-face with him, which actually is a good thing, because they can't claim I was any sort of a threat.

01:35:42.000 There were members of the audience and security personnel between me and Rumsfeld.

01:35:48.000 So, uh, it wasn't like I was closer than anybody else.

01:35:51.000 Did you hear about the inauguration where the thousands of people in the parade were told, don't look at the president in the eyes?

01:35:56.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:35:57.000 Oh, that was in mainstream news.

01:35:59.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:36:00.000 Okay.

01:36:01.000 Um, so yeah, no, so I, he didn't answer me.

01:36:04.000 I don't, I don't know what the, his facial expression was because I was being hauled away by the Secret Service.

01:36:10.000 But he didn't answer me, and he obviously was unconcerned, and he probably is the one who issues orders to do this to people who ask questions.

01:36:17.000 Now, how do you know that it was Secret Service and it wasn't Defense Intelligence Protective Detail, or Pentagon Protective Detail?

01:36:25.000 Well, actually, I don't know for sure.

01:36:27.000 They wouldn't say who they were.

01:36:29.000 Were their haircuts super short?

01:36:31.000 Well, look at ustourofduty.org.

01:36:33.000 I don't know if you're in front of... I printed some of it off, yeah.

01:36:36.000 I don't know if you're in front of a computer screen, you can see it.

01:36:38.000 Yeah, they had short hair, and they were talking into their two-way radios.

01:36:42.000 Well, and it's shaved!

01:36:44.000 If it's a military haircut, and they've all got haircuts like that, it's probably not Secret Service.

01:36:48.000 No, it wasn't shaved.

01:36:50.000 It was just shortish hair.

01:36:51.000 You know, conservative look.

01:36:53.000 And they were talking in their walkie-talkies, referring to me as the subject.

01:36:56.000 The subject is here, the subject is there.

01:36:58.000 So, to me, I thought it was the Secret Service, but they don't say, and that's a weird position to put a citizen in, by the way, is how can they expect you to comply with their orders if they don't even state what their authority is?

01:37:11.000 Well, plus they're secret police, so that's it!

01:37:13.000 Yeah, right, so I mean, for all I know, they're just some civilian.

01:37:18.000 That's the problem!

01:37:19.000 That's another tell-tale, hallmark Touchstone, Keystone, Cornerstone, heart of a police state is secret police.

01:37:29.000 Yeah.

01:37:30.000 And so how do I know, why should I comply if I don't even know who they are?

01:37:34.000 It's a really terrible position to put a citizen in.

01:37:36.000 So these goons grab you, drag you off, what do they say to you?

01:37:39.000 Well, I was telling them to take it easy and they were saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take it easy, don't worry.

01:37:45.000 But they weren't and they slammed me up against the door.

01:37:47.000 And, you know, it was hard for me.

01:37:49.000 The door was closed that they were bringing me through.

01:37:52.000 In a few years, folks, they'll load you on a truck and you'll go to a camp.

01:37:55.000 Well, maybe so. 0.96

01:37:56.000 Well, they have the people who were in Iraq raping kids over you. 0.72

01:38:00.000 Well, so I had a struggle to open the door myself, which wasn't easy since they were holding me.

01:38:05.000 And then we got outside and there were other people with cameras pointed at them, and they were telling people not to point the cameras at them.

01:38:12.000 And the more direct I was about asserting my rights and making them identify themselves, the more indirect they became.

01:38:19.000 Oh no, no, listen, I've noticed with these people, Now, you can't try to bluff it.

01:38:24.000 You've got to mean it. 1.00

01:38:25.000 You're scumbag criminals. 1.00

01:38:27.000 You're violating what a marauder is. 1.00

01:38:28.000 You're bad. 0.97

01:38:29.000 They shrink like vampires at dawn. 0.98

01:38:32.000 But the poor people that grovel, if you'd have started groveling, man, they'd have probably started knocking your teeth out. 1.00

01:38:38.000 I simply was asserting my rights.

01:38:40.000 I didn't use the colorful, salty language you just did.

01:38:43.000 But I was saying, you know, on what basis are you detaining me?

01:38:46.000 Well, you know, I don't use that.

01:38:48.000 I mean, I'm just real stern.

01:38:49.000 You listen to me, what you're doing is criminal.

01:38:52.000 And I'm going to enforce my rights.

01:38:54.000 I'm going to sue you.

01:38:55.000 I'm going to find out who you are.

01:38:56.000 You ought to be ashamed of yourself, violating the press.

01:38:59.000 I tell you, you're in a lot of trouble, buddy.

01:39:02.000 Well, you know, that's a strategy.

01:39:04.000 I just went with my instincts.

01:39:05.000 What did you say to him?

01:39:07.000 Well, like I said, I was saying, who are you?

01:39:10.000 On what basis are you detaining me?

01:39:12.000 And when they started telling the people not to point the cameras at him, I said, are you saying it's illegal to point a camera at you?

01:39:18.000 You can also yell, help, I'm being kidnapped, because you don't know who these people are.

01:39:23.000 No, but I knew the people who were out front with the cameras.

01:39:26.000 I mean, they weren't there waiting for me, because we didn't know this was going to happen, but coincidentally, some protesters from Code Pink, whom I know, were there.

01:39:35.000 And they were pointing the camera right at him.

01:39:37.000 Now, we have video and audio of the whole, it was like a 15 minute slow walk off the ground.

01:39:44.000 Code Pink is an anti-war women's group.

01:39:46.000 Yeah, and they were feisty.

01:39:48.000 They didn't back down at all.

01:39:49.000 They kept the camera going right in their faces.

01:39:51.000 Well, I love it how they put cameras up everywhere on us, and the Defense Secretary wants to read all our emails and look at our bank accounts, and Homeland Security head Chertoff, henchman of Lord Bush, he's saying we're going to spy on you, what do you have to hide, but don't put cameras on them.

01:40:07.000 Yeah.

01:40:08.000 Well, when I confronted them about whether or not it was illegal, they didn't say anything.

01:40:12.000 So then I said, oh, so you're just expressing your preference.

01:40:16.000 You're not threatening.

01:40:17.000 No, it's all color of law.

01:40:18.000 It's all pushing you.

01:40:19.000 I'll tell you what it is.

01:40:23.000 It's criminal.

01:40:25.000 It sure is.

01:40:26.000 It's criminal to just grab people.

01:40:28.000 It's criminal to tell them don't videotape.

01:40:31.000 And it's not their role.

01:40:35.000 Well, what we do when we go to something like this is we have one person quiet with a very small camera and somebody with a big camera and a lot of times they'll grab the big camera and steal the footage.

01:40:44.000 We've had that happen.

01:40:45.000 But then we have them stealing the footage, so... That's very smart.

01:40:50.000 Because they don't know they're on camera, they're a lot more likely to misbehave and show their true colors.

01:40:55.000 I thought we were trying to bring democracy to Iraq, but should somebody bring freedom to America?

01:41:00.000 Well, the vets and the families, I think, are our secret weapon, if you pardon the expression, because they have a lot of credibility.

01:41:08.000 They obviously aren't motivated by political bias.

01:41:11.000 Well, now they're trying, though, and they've got the nerve.

01:41:14.000 In fact, I've got the transcripts. 0.84

01:41:16.000 O'Reilly and that creature Gallagher, those neocons, they're on the air attacking Cindy Sheehan, calling her names, and they're now saying how dumb it is that people are saying we're losing our rights.

01:41:30.000 Being searched without warrants is wonderful.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, it's really wonderful.

01:41:34.000 And I know Drudge did a hit piece on Cindy Sheehan too, claiming that she changed her story about what happened when she met with Bush.

01:41:40.000 Just because she didn't attack Bush as much right after she met with him.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, a grieving mother is going to be held accountable for not being exactly perfect right after her son does. 0.98

01:41:51.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

01:41:52.000 But guess what? 0.55

01:41:53.000 I have footage that I just remembered today.

01:41:56.000 I'm going to put it up on the website.

01:41:57.000 It should be up tomorrow.

01:41:59.000 I have footage with another mother whose son was killed in the war named Dolores Kesterson, and she tells her story about what happened when she met with Bush, and it's even worse.

01:42:09.000 She was telling him what a happy-go-lucky guy her son was, and he would have had such a great life.

01:42:15.000 And Bush actually said to her in response to that, how do you know he would have had a good life?

01:42:20.000 Oh, no, he's real aggressive.

01:42:22.000 Yeah.

01:42:23.000 I mean, can you imagine saying that to the mother of somebody who was just killed?

01:42:26.000 Well, that's because he doesn't want to have his conscience hurt.

01:42:31.000 Well, they can try to portray Cindy Sheen as being, you know, some local fringe character who's, you know, the only one who's making this claim.

01:42:39.000 But we're going to show you... Let's line up 1,800 mommies. 0.98

01:42:43.000 Yeah.

01:42:44.000 By the way, it's a lot more than 1,800.

01:42:45.000 If you die being flown out of the country, it doesn't count.

01:42:48.000 So let's line up 8,000 mommies. 0.99

01:42:50.000 And this is a real problem for the Bush administration because these people are not easy to dismiss.

01:42:56.000 They're talking about arresting her and they're already circling and putting up signs and don't step off this, you know, if you step off into the grass you're trespassing and...

01:42:56.000 What are they going to do though?

01:43:06.000 They're circling her hungrily, and Lord Rumsfeld is going to be there tomorrow, and we know his pension, to remove those slaves.

01:43:14.000 Did you hear about Bush three years ago when he went to Africa?

01:43:17.000 It was even on the BBC, they had whole shantytowns bulldozed and arrested like 10,000 homeless people and put them in a sports stadium. 0.69

01:43:24.000 Oh my God.

01:43:26.000 You didn't hear about that, huh?

01:43:27.000 I forget the country, yeah.

01:43:31.000 Well, help is on the way.

01:43:32.000 I was just speaking to someone a little while ago down in the scene there and they said the ACLU is assisting so that they make sure that Cindy's rights are protected on Thursday.

01:43:44.000 I've got to be honest with you.

01:43:46.000 The ACLU spends too much of their time trying to get the Ten Commandments out of places, which is ridiculous. 0.51

01:43:54.000 They just seem so soft.

01:43:57.000 Well, they have their style and others have a different style, so it all helps.

01:44:02.000 If you look on our website, which is ustourofduty.org, you will see Bill Mitchell, who's the father of one of the soldiers who was killed, and also Tim Goodrich, the co-founder of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

01:44:14.000 He's an Air Force veteran.

01:44:16.000 Well, Ron Paul is... Let me just finish.

01:44:18.000 You'll see them confronting Tommy Franks.

01:44:21.000 He came to an elementary school in Los Angeles to try to seduce little kids into joining the military.

01:44:27.000 And when Tim and Bill found out about it, they went and confronted him, and they put their bodies in front of Tommy Frank's car.

01:44:35.000 So there is a lot of this confrontation going on, and it's being done by people who are obviously patriotic, obviously not motivated by political bias.

01:44:44.000 And Cindy is putting out the call for help and people are responding.

01:44:47.000 You know, that's beautiful.

01:44:48.000 We'll tell folks how to respond.

01:44:49.000 We had Cindy putting out the call for help yesterday, or two days ago, and I may be going up there tomorrow.

01:44:56.000 But she's going to be there for the whole month of August, right?

01:44:58.000 Yeah, and we're coming down.

01:44:59.000 We're going to probably do at least one event in Austin as a matter of fact.

01:45:03.000 The U.S.

01:45:04.000 Tour of Duty organizes events with Cindy and the other families in Iraq.

01:45:08.000 This is our whole reason for existing.

01:45:10.000 And we've been doing this for the past couple of years around the country, where we team up the vets and the families with experts such as Ray McGovern, the former CIA analyst.

01:45:20.000 And sometimes we have performers such as Cher and Dustin Hoffman, who speak at our programs.

01:45:25.000 So we're going to have a big tour that starts in October.

01:45:29.000 And we'd love people to donate if they can go online at ustourofduty.org because we have more of America's most influential truth-tellers than we have places to put them, than we have the ability to put them because we don't have enough money.

01:45:41.000 So the more money we can get, the more places we can go.

01:45:44.000 And these are the people that can really change public opinion.

01:45:47.000 So I think what we're going to do, we're not really ready to announce it yet, but we're working on something for Austin where we get Cindy and Ray McGovern, I just spoke to a little while ago, who's going to fly in on Friday.

01:45:59.000 And I'm also contacting members of Congress, Maxine Waters is considering coming down.

01:46:04.000 So Ray McGovern is going to be flying into Crawford on... He's tentatively planning to come down on Friday.

01:46:10.000 Well, that's good, then I'll definitely go interview him for the TV show.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:46:14.000 No, we've interviewed him about three or four times here.

01:46:17.000 Good for you, so I'm sure your listeners are familiar with him.

01:46:19.000 Yeah, well, he was Reagan's chief briefer.

01:46:22.000 Yeah, you can't get any closer to power than that.

01:46:25.000 And then, I mean, he's a real conservative, folks, and he just... They called the people running the Pentagon now, they called them crazies back then, and we really do have a bunch of psychopaths running our government right now. 0.76

01:46:36.000 You know, though, I'll tell you something, Jeff. 0.70

01:46:39.000 I don't see them stopping.

01:46:40.000 I mean, these people are just on such power trips.

01:46:43.000 They say they're going to cut trips, but the next day they're going to increase them by $22,000.

01:46:47.000 And it's just frothing and lying and stomping around.

01:46:54.000 I think Bush is going to pull something off here in America, a fake terror attack.

01:46:59.000 I think that's what's going to happen.

01:47:00.000 Yeah, well I've heard that said before and I shudder at the thought, but these guys have shown that nothing is beyond them.

01:47:08.000 You're right.

01:47:09.000 But the time is now for people to take a stand, and they're going to have a tough time dealing with these vets and family members, a real tough time.

01:47:17.000 And when they're side-by-side with experts like Ray McGovern, they can't be dismissed.

01:47:21.000 It's just emotional.

01:47:23.000 That's what makes it so hard, because one of the biggest tactics these people use is dismissiveness.

01:47:30.000 Oh, he's just pushing a book.

01:47:32.000 Oh, sure, they lost somebody in the war.

01:47:33.000 Of course they're upset.

01:47:35.000 But when you put all these people together, all these great Americans, combining expertise and personal stories, it becomes impossible to dismiss them.

01:47:43.000 Well, you've also got these women who lost their sons, and in some cases daughters, and they're bringing up the points that we're supposed to forget about.

01:47:51.000 The memory hole of they lied about WMDs, they manufactured evidence, Consciously, they put out fake intelligence.

01:48:00.000 They have been really abusing the troops.

01:48:04.000 They have been profiteering off the war.

01:48:07.000 I mean, Dick Cheney's wife on the board of Lockheed Martin, and he gives them contracts out of his office?

01:48:13.000 I mean, this is criminal!

01:48:15.000 You're right.

01:48:16.000 And you know what?

01:48:17.000 We are the media now.

01:48:19.000 Instead, I'm through complaining about the media.

01:48:21.000 Well, maybe not completely through, but I'm through making a big deal out of it.

01:48:25.000 It's time to start competing with the media, being the media.

01:48:29.000 All I know is this, when we get a Democrat in office, and they're invading countries and doing the exact same stuff, are you guys going to be fighting them with the same vehemence?

01:48:37.000 I'm no Democrat.

01:48:39.000 I stand up for the truth, baby.

01:48:41.000 Well, it just scares me, because I was protesting Bill Clinton attacking Serbia, and Democrats sending me hate mail.

01:48:49.000 I mean, obviously a lot of people that support your group are Democrats.

01:48:52.000 Yeah, they are, but so what?

01:48:54.000 No, no, I agree!

01:48:55.000 As long as it's non-partisan, as long as it's... I mean, because... First of all, we have to be, because we're a non-profit group, and we're required.

01:49:02.000 But on a personal level, I'm a registered independent.

01:49:06.000 Believe me, this is about the issues, not about... Oh no, I totally agree with you.

01:49:10.000 I'm just, you know, I'm just scared because the Democrats all vote for the war, they vote for the Patriot Act.

01:49:16.000 I mean, there's really no... There's one party in D.C.

01:49:19.000 Right, there's a few people who act like real leaders, like Maxine Waters, for example, Barbara Lee.

01:49:25.000 Ron Paul.

01:49:26.000 Some of the, you know, the whole out-of-Iraq caucus should be, you know, given properties for taking that stance.

01:49:33.000 So, there are signs of hope.

01:49:34.000 There are people standing up, so we'll see what happens.

01:49:37.000 Alright, well, are you going to be coming into town?

01:49:39.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:49:40.000 I think I'll come down to organize what's going to happen in Austin, and of course we'll be back and forth to Crawford as well.

01:49:45.000 Well, I'd like to interview you for the TV show that happens.

01:49:48.000 Thanks for coming on with us, Jeff.

01:49:49.000 Okay, can we give out the website one more time?

01:49:50.000 Yeah.

01:49:51.000 Tell you what, stay there, we'll give it out on the other side.

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01:52:49.000 You know, I hear the neocons on talk radio saying it's time to start arresting people that protest.

01:53:02.000 Wow, this would have been illegal in World War II.

01:53:05.000 This isn't World War II, folks.

01:53:07.000 It's an innocent country that's been invaded.

01:53:09.000 Now they want to invade more countries.

01:53:11.000 They lied to us every step of the way.

01:53:13.000 They're turning America into a police state.

01:53:15.000 They said they want to put troops on the streets.

01:53:17.000 Mainstream news.

01:53:18.000 Bob Barr says you're going to have troops on the street corner telling you what to do.

01:53:22.000 I mean, it's already happening in like five cities.

01:53:25.000 And folks are protesting this.

01:53:27.000 The draft's coming.

01:53:28.000 And in closing, Jeff Norman is going to be out there in Crawford.

01:53:33.000 A lot of folks are headed out to Crawford while Lord Bush He is there during his five week vacation, four and a half week vacation, and in closing with our guest, Ron, give folks one more, or Jeff, our next guest, our next caller is Ron.

01:53:52.000 Jeff Norman, give folks that email address and info.

01:53:56.000 Right, the website is ustourofduty.org, ustourofduty.org.

01:54:01.000 And we're going to try to get something happening really quickly in Austin to help these folks.

01:54:06.000 I have Bill Mitchell on the other line right now.

01:54:08.000 He's one of the parents who's down there.

01:54:10.000 So maybe you can get a live report from him after you speak with me and get the very latest about what's happening in Crawford.

01:54:17.000 And if your listeners can support us, we'd really appreciate it, because the more money we have, the more events we can do, and we can get these people out all over America.

01:54:24.000 I hear you.

01:54:25.000 Thanks for coming on, Jeff.

01:54:26.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:54:27.000 We'll see you.

01:54:27.000 Okay.

01:54:28.000 Bill?

01:54:28.000 Alright, folks.

01:54:29.000 I know we've got a bunch of phone calls.

01:54:32.000 We're going to get to you later.

01:54:33.000 Glenn Spencer's coming up about the war that's going on on the southern border, which I'm really focused on.

01:54:39.000 I mean, I'm asking myself, should I go to the border this weekend?

01:54:43.000 Or should I go out to Crawford this weekend, or should I sit in an edit studio and work on getting more video out on the website of the London trip with MI5 agents and members of Parliament saying the governments are behind terror attacks?

01:54:58.000 I mean, it makes my head spin sometimes, but I don't know.

01:55:03.000 The Crawford stuff's important, but we can leave that to all these great folks out there to fight them.

01:55:08.000 Or, at the same time, I think it's important for me to go out to Crawford There's just so much going on.

01:55:14.000 What do you think is more important?

01:55:16.000 I think, frankly, I need to go to the border.

01:55:18.000 Because, I mean, it is just bedlam down there right now.

01:55:21.000 And I need to go into Mexico and get the footage and get it out.

01:55:26.000 That's more dangerous.

01:55:27.000 That's probably what I'll do.

01:55:27.000 I always opt for the more dangerous.

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01:58:06.000 All right, we got Lou Spencer coming up.

01:58:13.000 Thank you.

01:58:15.000 Let's talk about the war that's going on on the border.

01:58:18.000 I mean, this is a news blackout.

01:58:19.000 Almost a complete blackout.

01:58:21.000 But right now, let's go to Jim in Michigan and Ron and others.

01:58:23.000 Jim in Michigan, you're on the air.

01:58:25.000 Welcome, sir.

01:58:27.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:58:28.000 Yes.

01:58:28.000 Hi.

01:58:29.000 I'd like to bring up a local issue, and this is kind of related.

01:58:32.000 This is, I went to a township meeting where I live at here a couple weeks ago.

01:58:37.000 That was Al-Qaeda-ish. 0.91

01:58:39.000 Well, yeah, oh, well.

01:58:40.000 Now, here, I'm just going to explain what's going on.

01:58:43.000 I went in there and questioned the township supervisor about a practice that he did of, he actually fired an employee there and yet he gets out and says that she resigned.

01:58:54.000 We know that she was actually fired.

01:58:57.000 I questioned him on that and he told me, he says, if you don't watch your language, he says I'll have you removed from the meeting.

01:59:04.000 Oh, that's happening?

01:59:05.000 Oh no, that's the new attitude!

01:59:06.000 We're slaves! 1.00

01:59:08.000 We're scum! 0.99

01:59:09.000 Look, sir, it was two years ago, it was in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, their big paper, that in open session they said, what about our martial law plan? 0.99

01:59:20.000 If people are doing a criminal investigation on us, can't we just declare martial law? 0.93

01:59:26.000 I mean, these people are insane!

01:59:28.000 Well, I want to explain this much to you.

01:59:30.000 Two days after the meeting, A deputy comes by my house and says, you know, you realize that this is a time of homeland security, you know, and you've got to be very careful what you say at some of these meetings.

01:59:49.000 It would be very offensive to our elected officials.

01:59:52.000 Oh, our God.

01:59:53.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 And what was your word, just criticizing him?

01:59:58.000 My word was that he wasn't telling the truth.

02:00:00.000 I said it would be nice if you told the truth.

02:00:02.000 Oh, I knew it.

02:00:03.000 See, I said Al-Qaeda.

02:00:04.000 Listen, you've got to listen to me.

02:00:06.000 Do you have a computer, Jim?

02:00:07.000 No, I don't, Alex.

02:00:08.000 Well, you get with a neighbor, you get on a word processor, and you write the account. 0.99

02:00:12.000 I want the name of the scumbag politician. 1.00

02:00:14.000 I want the name of the scumbag deputy. 1.00

02:00:17.000 I want to expose that scumbag. 1.00

02:00:19.000 Coming to your house, it's like the guy who put a sign up saying our court system's a joke, and the judge ordered him arrested. 0.99

02:00:26.000 Listen, that city council punk will get in a lot of trouble for what he did.

02:00:30.000 That's official oppression.

02:00:32.000 Now, what did you tell that deputy?

02:00:35.000 Well, he just told me, he says, well, you know, I'm just by here.

02:00:40.000 He said something about, I seen you, you know, or something about what I said at the meeting.

02:00:45.000 I don't know if he was there or not.

02:00:46.000 You need to go back and you need to bring that up in the meeting.

02:00:50.000 You know, the thing is, they always have three deputies sitting back there.

02:00:53.000 Good!

02:00:54.000 You bring one of your friends with a video camera.

02:00:57.000 Man, that is killing America.

02:00:59.000 That's like ripping the guts out, ripping the heart out of it.

02:01:02.000 Well, this goes on all over, Alex.

02:01:05.000 Sir, I know.

02:01:05.000 That's why I made the joke.

02:01:07.000 Yeah, this goes on in Detroit.

02:01:09.000 Detroit, they got a mayoral election this year. 1.00

02:01:13.000 They got big, fat pieces of trash who think they're our owners. 0.99

02:01:18.000 Man, I mean, it's happened before. 1.00

02:01:21.000 It's the norm in history.

02:01:22.000 So what did you say to this guy?

02:01:25.000 I just said, hey, I got a right as a citizen to speak my piece.

02:01:27.000 He says, well, I didn't say you didn't have a piece. 1.00

02:01:29.000 Oh, yes you did, you piece of trash! 1.00

02:01:32.000 You know, he says, I'm just following orders. 1.00

02:01:33.000 I'm asking God to judge that person right now.

02:01:35.000 Well, he says, I'm just following orders.

02:01:37.000 He says, I have to follow orders to keep my job.

02:01:40.000 That's exactly what he said.

02:01:40.000 Oh, so now it turns into he was out there on orders.

02:01:43.000 Sure, he said, I have to do what I'm told. 1.00

02:01:46.000 Idiot! 1.00

02:01:51.000 I wish God... Man, I get so sick of these people. 1.00

02:01:55.000 What's the name of your town?

02:01:56.000 Give me the name of the people that did this.

02:01:59.000 Well, I don't want to give it on the air.

02:02:01.000 Can I give it to you off the website?

02:02:02.000 Great, they'll come get you.

02:02:03.000 Being afraid of them means they're going to win.

02:02:06.000 Just tell me the name of the town, at least.

02:02:09.000 Well, the name of the town is Orient Township.

02:02:11.000 It's outside of, you know, just outside of Pontiac.

02:02:15.000 Orient Township?

02:02:16.000 Yeah, it's Orient Township.

02:02:20.000 Well, listen, will you just write me the article?

02:02:22.000 Okay.

02:02:23.000 Look, look, look, look.

02:02:24.000 We've got to stand up against these people.

02:02:27.000 You've already done it.

02:02:28.000 I commend you, Jim.

02:02:30.000 Oh, you know, I mean, I'll tell you another thing.

02:02:32.000 They make video recordings, you know, of these meetings, and then they omit what they don't want the people to see.

02:02:38.000 Yeah, you know what?

02:02:40.000 That guy's acting like a gangster.

02:02:42.000 Dig into what he's up to.

02:02:43.000 Bring him down. 0.93

02:02:45.000 Okay.

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02:05:53.000 Alright, Lim Spencer has moved from like 10 miles from the border to the border.

02:06:01.000 They've moved American Border Patrol onto a ranch that's actually on the Mexican-U.S.

02:06:08.000 border.

02:06:09.000 And his phone system just got put in.

02:06:11.000 We were having some problems audio-wise, so we're calling him right back.

02:06:15.000 But during our little two-minute discussion, during that last break, you should hear these discussions we have off-air, my producer called and set him up today.

02:06:24.000 I said, I want to commend Glenn Spencer.

02:06:28.000 For being right.

02:06:29.000 I mean, he predicted open warfare within two years, and it's now happened.

02:06:35.000 And I ran through the litany for Glenn Spencer.

02:06:39.000 I said, were you aware of all that?

02:06:40.000 He said, no.

02:06:42.000 No one's put it together like you just did.

02:06:43.000 It's piecemeal here and there.

02:06:45.000 And it's not hard to put together, but the media is ignoring it almost completely.

02:06:49.000 I mean, I got USA Today.

02:06:51.000 I got CBS News.

02:06:53.000 I've got Reuters.

02:06:55.000 They closed the consulate because it's under rocket attack.

02:06:59.000 There's rocket attacks in the city every week.

02:07:03.000 127 dead in the month of June alone.

02:07:08.000 Again, we always get these numbers two months later, so it looks like July is going to be even worse when those numbers come out.

02:07:14.000 Five dead U.S.

02:07:15.000 cops.

02:07:16.000 Five different dead people in law enforcement on our side.

02:07:19.000 Eighteen on their side.

02:07:22.000 The label Laredo, I got a newscast two months ago from Fox News on the border.

02:07:28.000 We played on the TV show to analyze it.

02:07:31.000 It is totally Shut down.

02:07:34.000 I mean, no one's there.

02:07:35.000 It's thousands of shops.

02:07:37.000 You know, big Skyrise, you know, Hilton Hotels.

02:07:43.000 There's no one there.

02:07:44.000 I mean, it shows the streets.

02:07:46.000 Streets that were so jam-packed, you know, just six, seven years ago when I took a weekend vacation down there just to, you know, have fun.

02:07:54.000 It's empty.

02:07:56.000 On both sides, people are moving out.

02:07:58.000 I mean, there's death everywhere.

02:07:59.000 I mean, hundreds dead in just a few week period.

02:08:02.000 Hundreds of people being kidnapped.

02:08:03.000 Dozens of them U.S.

02:08:04.000 citizens being held.

02:08:06.000 Can you imagine if a Muslim group had kidnapped one child at the international top story everywhere? 1.00

02:08:14.000 And so it has just broken into... I mean, folks, our government doesn't shut down its consulate in Israel.

02:08:20.000 It doesn't shut down consulates in Cape Town with the highest crime rate in the world.

02:08:25.000 Okay, they don't shut down their embassies.

02:08:28.000 They don't do this, folks.

02:08:30.000 They shut them down in Tanzania for like two weeks when the bomb went off.

02:08:36.000 When supposedly Bin Laden bombed it.

02:08:39.000 They shut it down because it was getting rocketed attacked.

02:08:42.000 And believe me, these drug gangs know what they're aiming at.

02:08:46.000 We are having missiles, grenades, RPGs fired.

02:08:52.000 As these rival drug cartels have a huge battle over the $250 billion a year industry.

02:08:59.000 And I'll tell you, we've had DEA agents on, former, current, I've got sources, folks, and even the Brownsville paper, the Dallas Morning News, quietly admitted, and we have these posted, we don't know what happened.

02:09:10.000 We train Los Yetis, Mexican Commandos, and then as soon as we train them, they turn against us and start killing cartels.

02:09:18.000 No, folks.

02:09:20.000 They're being used As a military element.

02:09:26.000 By the groups inside our government to destabilize and to go after their political enemies.

02:09:31.000 And folks, we've had two car bombs in Dallas go off.

02:09:34.000 That's in the newspapers.

02:09:35.000 Back of the paper though.

02:09:37.000 We've had killings in Austin, San Antonio.

02:09:39.000 The hundred and something deaths in June were just down there.

02:09:44.000 What you'll only hear in Texas on local TV or in a few newspapers is that they're all over the place killing at will.

02:09:52.000 And we mean Mexican Special Forces.

02:09:54.000 We've seen Mexican regular troops protecting and deploying these guys.

02:09:58.000 They still work for the government, for the Mexican government.

02:10:02.000 And joining us is a man who predicted all of this. 0.79

02:10:04.000 Five years ago on this show, he said you'll have them killing people within two years.

02:10:09.000 They started shooting cops then.

02:10:11.000 And then two years ago, he said in a couple years we're going to have border wars and right on time it's happening.

02:10:16.000 Glenn Spencer, good to have you on with us.

02:10:20.000 His phone cut again.

02:10:23.000 Okay, call him back on the original number.

02:10:28.000 Okay, well we had him and his phone didn't sound right, so we... Call my producer, who also happens to be my wife, and get his cell phone.

02:10:38.000 I know it's in our computer.

02:10:40.000 And, uh...

02:10:41.000 We'll get Glenn on, but I want to get Glenn's take on this, because he really, I mean, I remember him five years ago going, there's going to be a shooting war and military and death and hundreds dead, and I was going, Glenn, what are you, he's a pretty straight-laced guy, he never talked like this, and I was like, I've been talking to him for eight years, I said, you know, that isn't going to happen, Glenn, it is happening.

02:11:01.000 More, but the incredible thing is, I talked to Glenn and I said, did you hear all of that?

02:11:07.000 He said, no, I heard most of it, but no one put it together like that.

02:11:11.000 He goes, my God, it is happening.

02:11:13.000 Because they're keeping it very quiet.

02:11:16.000 I mean, folks, they've had like, I don't know, how many, I didn't count them up, it's like eight, nine, ten cases in the last few months where they just, it started two years ago where they come across the river and just grab families and then hold them for ransom for money.

02:11:30.000 families, kids.

02:11:30.000 U.S.

02:11:34.000 The cops will just randomly grab families vacationing and steal their car and then run their credit report off their social security number and then suck a hundred thou out of them?

02:11:45.000 I mean, it's so corrupt, folks. 0.57

02:11:47.000 Eight towns flying the Mexican flag, no English allowed. 0.99

02:11:50.000 I know there's reporters listening right now who aren't newshounds, who aren't real reporters.

02:11:56.000 You don't believe me that there are eight towns flying the Mexican flag where no English is allowed in court proceedings.

02:12:02.000 Not that Spanish is numero uno, But, no English allowed! 1.00

02:12:08.000 Well, you got LexisNexis, and you got Google, and you just, you go in and you just type it in, and you get the 10-part series, San Antonio Express News.

02:12:18.000 I know you don't believe me! 0.94

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02:12:23.000 No!

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02:12:26.000 Don't say it's not true, and then not check it out! 0.90

02:12:29.000 You check it out, you little worms! 0.87

02:12:33.000 I'm sorry. 0.96

02:12:34.000 I'm just really angry, folks.

02:12:36.000 But there's a reason why Infowars.com is bigger than 90 plus percent of American newspapers.

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02:12:50.000 There's a reason PrisonPlanet.com is even bigger than that.

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02:13:00.000 I'm not tootin' our horn, folks.

02:13:01.000 People want the ranting.

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02:13:03.000 They want the analysis.

02:13:05.000 They want the information.

02:13:07.000 And I tell them the New World Order, you're gonna lose.

02:13:09.000 There's hundreds of sites as big as mine, or bigger, that are fighting you, and you're gonna lose.

02:13:14.000 You got Glenn Spencer now?

02:13:17.000 Glenn, sorry about the problems there, buddy.

02:13:17.000 Good.

02:13:20.000 Yeah, well, it's the problems that are in, and I apologize.

02:13:23.000 No, no, no.

02:13:23.000 It's good to have you on, my friend.

02:13:24.000 Vaya con Dios.

02:13:26.000 You know, during the break, I listed all that.

02:13:28.000 You were aware of most of it, but you're incredibly informed.

02:13:31.000 Almost everybody I've talked to doesn't see the... because it's been covered up, really.

02:13:38.000 We are literally under attack!

02:13:43.000 My neighbor came over this morning.

02:13:45.000 He said, Glenn, come on in.

02:13:46.000 He said, there was a rocket last night.

02:13:47.000 He lives... I live a thousand feet north of the border.

02:13:51.000 And he lives south of me.

02:13:52.000 I'm a thousand feet north and south of the border.

02:13:53.000 It's his property.

02:13:55.000 And he lives right on the border.

02:13:56.000 He came over this morning, we're good buddies.

02:13:59.000 And his fiance is a former army colonel.

02:14:04.000 She was the Inspector General of Fort Huachuca, right here.

02:14:07.000 Okay?

02:14:08.000 These are my neighbors.

02:14:09.000 They're reliable people.

02:14:11.000 And he took me down and he showed me where a drug vehicle came through the border last night and they went over to this riparian area where Americans aren't allowed to drive and they took a wrong turn and got stuck and then ripped the entire riparian area apart as they tried to get back on the road.

02:14:29.000 And the amazing part about this is It's a gate in a barbed wire fence that they just reach over, open up, and drive through!

02:14:39.000 And drive through!

02:14:40.000 Our own government doesn't put a padlock on it!

02:14:43.000 No!

02:14:44.000 It doesn't even open!

02:14:47.000 So they can drive through.

02:14:48.000 Now again, Bush ordered the Border Patrol to stand down to make the Minutemen look bad.

02:14:52.000 That's the Washington Times Associated Press.

02:14:54.000 But Glenn, I want to specifically, you predicted open warfare.

02:14:58.000 Hundreds are dead.

02:14:59.000 Hundreds dead in one month.

02:15:02.000 Embassies on fire.

02:15:03.000 Rockets, propelled grenades exploding.

02:15:06.000 Bottoms going off in Dallas.

02:15:08.000 And it's not national news, Glenn.

02:15:09.000 That's right.

02:15:10.000 We will not tell you.

02:15:12.000 You have to understand, you're not going to know about it until there's blood running in the streets.

02:15:16.000 Not running in the streets!

02:15:18.000 It's going to be above your shoelaces.

02:15:21.000 Then they'll tell you.

02:15:25.000 Well, I mean, hundreds dead a month?

02:15:27.000 That's not news, Glenn?

02:15:29.000 Well, you know, we have this on our website.

02:15:33.000 Last week, a Mexican, right out of Mexico, came up here and torched vehicles and other places all along the border. 1.00

02:15:42.000 Burned up a semi.

02:15:44.000 I've got a picture of it up on our website.

02:15:46.000 Torched vehicles.

02:15:48.000 An emergency response.

02:15:49.000 He took two days.

02:15:50.000 He was burning everything he could find.

02:15:51.000 It was an act of terrorism.

02:15:54.000 Yeah, I saw that blurb, but it never got news.

02:15:58.000 How many houses and vehicles were torched?

02:16:00.000 There was, uh, eight total.

02:16:03.000 So literally, just, just burn... See?

02:16:05.000 I mean, folks, it is... I mean, there's no way to track all this.

02:16:09.000 And you can't find it in the news.

02:16:10.000 It was just this local Bisbee Observer, and they're not even online.

02:16:13.000 They're the ones who reported it.

02:16:16.000 And then the national news is not going to pick it up.

02:16:18.000 The Mexican that came across the border and was terrorizing people in his community by torching their trucks and their emergency response vehicle, you know, an ambulance, and other vehicles, and county vehicles. 1.00

02:16:32.000 And Mr. Garcia, the head of the embassy there in Nuevo Leon, he just said, look, we're shutting down.

02:16:39.000 And Vincente Fox said, how dare you?

02:16:41.000 I mean, there's explosions!

02:16:44.000 They're under rocket attack!

02:16:50.000 We're under rocket attack, folks! 0.80

02:16:53.000 Glenn Spencer and Alex Jones are extreme because there's people running around with giant signs with pictures of white people's heads cut off, firing rockets at us.

02:17:03.000 Did you see all the pictures of the Mexican Army that we found along the border in the last week or so?

02:17:07.000 AmericanPatrol.com, yeah, it's amazing.

02:17:10.000 Yeah.

02:17:11.000 All kinds of heavily armed Mexican troops with automatic weapons.

02:17:16.000 I mean, we're doing a half a mile of my house, camping along the border.

02:17:19.000 What are they doing there?

02:17:20.000 That's what we asked.

02:17:20.000 What are they doing?

02:17:22.000 Well, I mean, firing rockets at embassies and, you know, burning houses and cars down.

02:17:29.000 I mean, it's friendly.

02:17:30.000 Hundreds of dead.

02:17:33.000 Five dead cops a month, you know, eighteen on the... Glenn, what's wrong with that?

02:17:38.000 Yeah, well, you know, why should the American people be concerned?

02:17:43.000 We'll be right back, Glenn.

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02:21:36.000 You know, Brigadier General Rick Baucus refused to torture people, so he was fired.

02:21:55.000 Two-star general, head of Camp X-Ray.

02:21:57.000 I was in the Associated Press, and he did one radio interview in Rhode Island, and he will not do interviews now.

02:22:06.000 A four-star general, and only three of these guys have been fired in modern history, was fired, relieved of duty, for refusing to be part of some type of NORTHCOM nuclear drill that we've been talking about for a month, they've been very quiet about.

02:22:22.000 And we have a reporter who I've gotten a lot of good info from in the past, and he works for a newspaper and a radio station, to give us even more on this.

02:22:32.000 Greg Zemensky's done a report on it, but Leland Lerman has even more.

02:22:36.000 They'll be coming on a little bit later.

02:22:37.000 I just wanted to get Glenn Spencer of AmericaPatrol.com on to thank him for just having such foresight.

02:22:45.000 I mean, you were the only person I knew five, six years ago saying, we're going to have a physical war.

02:22:50.000 I mean, I didn't know it was that bad.

02:22:51.000 How did you know that, Glenn?

02:22:54.000 Well, after looking at the problem for years, I have had looked at similar problems during the Vietnam War as a young man.

02:23:05.000 I was in the Pentagon working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, helping evaluate the progress of the war in Southeast Asia under Colonel Treiner and the Weapon Systems Evaluation Group, if anybody wants to check it out.

02:23:17.000 Oh, I didn't know that about you.

02:23:18.000 Oh yeah.

02:23:20.000 I was in military operations research and doing large-scale computer models for the Navy And they pulled me off of that for about two months to go on to a special project.

02:23:31.000 I was part of a civilian review team that did an independent assessment of the war in Southeast Asia for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

02:23:40.000 And so I had some exposure at the top level of the intelligence, the kind of information that you need to gather and figure out what's going on.

02:23:49.000 And I've been doing this same thing on the border issue and with Mexico for the last 13 years.

02:23:54.000 Why is our government encouraging and, you know, admittedly training Los Zetas and then they do this? 1.00

02:24:00.000 Well, they didn't know they were going to do that when they trained them, but they should have.

02:24:05.000 Just like we don't know what all of these well-trained military are going to do in Iraq, ultimately.

02:24:11.000 So, yeah, they should have known it because of the fundamental There's a belief in Mexico that the Southwest, at least, of the United States belongs to them and they have an obligation to take it back. 0.97

02:24:26.000 This is their long-term goal.

02:24:28.000 For those who don't know, Bin Laden shirts are the number one seller at soccer games and they cheered when we were attacked. 0.56

02:24:34.000 Right.

02:24:35.000 I love Bin Laden t-shirts. 0.93

02:24:37.000 They're a hot item in Mexico.

02:24:40.000 And we could go on and on and on. 0.99

02:24:43.000 Which shows how foolish they are because they don't even know what we're doing behind them. 0.99

02:24:47.000 Our people at intelligence should know this. 0.99

02:24:49.000 The CIA should know this.

02:24:51.000 They should know that we have an antagonistic nation to the south whose ultimate goal is to reclaim territory lost as a result of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

02:25:01.000 They should know that.

02:25:02.000 But I mean, the Native Americans had it, the French had it, the Spanish had it.

02:25:08.000 I mean, I've seen the comic books and history books the government gives them, but I mean, it's so ridiculous that the Southwest... I mean, the Southwest was fought over by empires, and their own government threw out the Spanish, and then they overthrew Santa Ana, who was a dictator.

02:25:25.000 Of course!

02:25:26.000 And, you know, you had Napoleon involved, and you had all kinds of... You had the British involved, we had 5440, or Pipe.

02:25:32.000 There was all kinds of land swapping going on.

02:25:35.000 And in California, really, the natives out there, such as the Gabrielonis Indians, do nothing but Mexican. 1.00

02:25:41.000 Unfortunately, Glenn, your phone is cutting out.

02:25:43.000 Alright, well, I'm sorry.

02:25:46.000 I'm right on the border.

02:25:47.000 It's difficult to get good reception down here.

02:25:49.000 We have trouble with our phone service.

02:25:51.000 We're in a very remote area.

02:25:53.000 No, I understand.

02:25:54.000 But our government should know this.

02:25:56.000 And they're going to find out as a people that they've made some very serious errors in defending us, and they've made some very serious errors in putting us into positions of jeopardy all along the border, just as we see as this arsonist terrorist from Mexico coming through my neighborhood. 0.66

02:26:12.000 Well, Glenn, I've got to ask you this final question.

02:26:13.000 The folks should visit AmericanPatrol.com and support you guys.

02:26:17.000 and support the minute men that you support as well.

02:26:19.000 But, again, your intelligence, your analysis has always been so good on all of this.

02:26:23.000 I wanted to get your, in the last minute, your predictions for the next year, what you think is going to happen.

02:26:29.000 And in closing, we've got troops searching little kids on subways, pointing machine guns at them, but the border is wide open.

02:26:36.000 The war on terror is a fraud.

02:26:38.000 Your comments.

02:26:38.000 Well, the conditions are there.

02:26:42.000 All we need is the incident to set off the admixture that we already have and it's going to explode. 1.00

02:26:49.000 The timing of that is impossible to predict.

02:26:52.000 It could be tomorrow, it could be a year from now.

02:26:54.000 And even though they're going to be attacking us, we'll be in bad if we resist.

02:26:58.000 That's correct.

02:27:01.000 So you think anytime in the next year?

02:27:03.000 Anytime.

02:27:04.000 It could be tomorrow.

02:27:06.000 Okay, what about troops having machine guns and little girdles but not being on the border?

02:27:10.000 Correct.

02:27:11.000 Well, right here, almost within view of my home, Mexican troops, heavily armed, lining the border.

02:27:21.000 All right, Glenn Spencer, you were right.

02:27:24.000 Right.

02:27:24.000 And I appreciate you coming on, my friend.

02:27:26.000 Take care.

02:27:27.000 We'll be right back with four-star general and part of the secret NORTHCOM takeover group.

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02:30:56.000 Brigadier General, Four Star General Kevin P. Burns was fired yesterday.

02:31:03.000 He was to be the general over this giant North Com mock nuclear attack drill.

02:31:11.000 Where terrorists try to bring a suitcase, nuke in, via ship.

02:31:14.000 We've been talking about this for a month.

02:31:16.000 We first mentioned it about a month ago when NORTHCOM put out a small little mention on its website.

02:31:22.000 They also put out an ad last year for domestic spies, for domestic propaganda, for the Pentagon's Office of Strategic Influence.

02:31:30.000 They weren't supposed to put that ad out publicly.

02:31:33.000 They got in a lot of trouble.

02:31:34.000 And this is the North American Command.

02:31:37.000 This is now considered a war zone.

02:31:41.000 They're the boys who had really covertly already been set up before 9-11, and then expanded and publicly talked about after 9-11, that the Space Command is over the four branches.

02:31:51.000 And they're based out in Colorado, Colorado Springs, where we had an affiliate for many years, until Professor from NORTHCOM, they were not happy about this show being on there for several years.

02:32:01.000 And they are the ones, openly, with the FEMA camps and the gun confiscation and the... I mean, Bob Barr's publicly talking about them.

02:32:10.000 They're going to have troops on the street corner spying on you?

02:32:12.000 That's Bob Barr's words.

02:32:15.000 Fox News Monday.

02:32:17.000 This is everything I've talked about.

02:32:19.000 This is it.

02:32:20.000 This is what the Supreme Death Squad Commander Negroponte is in control of, along with Chertoff, who says, hey, don't worry about giving up your privacy.

02:32:29.000 What do you have to hide?

02:32:34.000 I have been on Leonard's show And he's got a show on KBSF.

02:32:40.000 He's also written for the Santa Fe newspaper there with the sign.

02:32:44.000 And he has made some phone calls and learned even more.

02:32:51.000 And we are just honored to have him with us, and he's going to be writing a report right when it gets off here, expanding on what we learned from Greg Zemensky, who's just so prolific.

02:33:01.000 It is amazing.

02:33:02.000 Leonard, tell us about yourself, just a little bit so folks know who you are, and all your details, and then let's get into what you've learned.

02:33:12.000 Well, I got involved in political action around the time when Dennis Kucinich came forward to attempt to bring peace back on the agenda in the Democratic Party, but as a result of that I got back into looking into the New World Order and that's when I began to read your articles again after some hiatus.

02:33:34.000 I began also to do some discussions with a friend of mine here in Santa Fe, who's a former captain of the Army Intelligence, who's also aware that the United States of America has been subverted radically.

02:33:46.000 And over time we've... So you weren't just hearing me say this while you were writing for the Santa Fe newspaper and doing local radio news, you were then even talking to a former captain in intelligence who was going, oh yeah, this is the real deal.

02:33:59.000 Yes, this former captain in the intelligence discovered As a result, largely of the blockbuster and another article by Fenton Dunn that it was impossible that the 9-11 story was accurate.

02:34:11.000 And he discovered this at about the September 18th of 2001 period.

02:34:17.000 And so a chance meeting led to a collaboration which has not stopped and continues to this day.

02:34:23.000 In fact, I was on the phone with him earlier today.

02:34:25.000 Now, for folks who want to Google some of the articles you've written on other subjects there locally, why don't you give us the spelling of your last name?

02:34:32.000 My last name is spelled L-E-H-R-M-A-N, and my first name is spelled L-E-L-A-N-D, and you can also find my most recent and most important article at physics911.net, and it's called, Israel, Iran, and a Nuclear False Flag Attack.

02:34:51.000 All right, well, and as soon as you get off here, you're going to put together the information you've learned for us?

02:34:55.000 Yes, I am, and let me just give you the details.

02:34:58.000 As a result of the exposure of this nuclear terror drill, and as you have probably been the most important promoter of the idea that nuclear terror or terrorist drills become alive by executive New World Order, so I figured that I should give you a call because I discovered today when I called Northcom that this drill is scheduled for tomorrow, which is August 11th.

02:35:29.000 And this is just the Public Affairs Officer telling me that she thinks that it's scheduled for tomorrow, but then she gave me some other interesting information, which is that CNN has recently started a new program called Situation Room.

02:35:44.000 And that Situation Room had debuted its first two episodes right in the middle of the North Com Situation Room.

02:35:51.000 In fact, it had used the North Com Situation Room as the studio from which to broadcast Situation Room. 0.99

02:35:58.000 Everybody thinks that Fox is the New World Order outlet, which they are, but they're like the comic book version for real idiots. 0.99

02:36:05.000 CNN uses Pentagon satellites. 0.98

02:36:08.000 It's come out, even in World Net Daily and the Washington Post, that they actually have hundreds of members of Army Intelligence there with the news writing.

02:36:16.000 They are actually a Pentagon operation.

02:36:19.000 Yeah, and now they're not even making any bones about it.

02:36:21.000 They're actually broadcasting from directly within the United States Northern Command.

02:36:25.000 And this new Situation Room is operated by none other Blitzer, who is perhaps the most warlike of all the CNN talking heads.

02:36:35.000 Yeah, I made his name in 91 with a golfing, sniveling creature.

02:36:41.000 Now tell us what you learned, the new developments about this general, this Kevin P. Burns, this four-star general.

02:36:48.000 Well, I cannot say anything other than what Greg Zemanski has put out, that the dismissal of Kevin Burns may in fact be related to this nuclear terror drill.

02:37:00.000 Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was going to go live, and that he was trying to put a stop to it.

02:37:10.000 Or, also, speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran.

02:37:20.000 Well, in the article you throw together, you might add, I mean, just, you know, for background, that when Rick Baucus quit, he said, I quit.

02:37:26.000 They go, no, you're fired for refusing to torture.

02:37:29.000 That got ignored.

02:37:30.000 But he was two-star.

02:37:32.000 This is unprecedented, a four-star.

02:37:34.000 How often does that happen?

02:37:35.000 Uh, I think that the information indicates that there's been one or two other instances in all of history, and then of course there's the very famous instance of Douglas MacArthur himself.

02:37:46.000 And that was over something nuclear.

02:37:47.000 He wanted to drop A-bombs on the Chinese.

02:37:52.000 No, I don't think that's it.

02:37:54.000 I think that Douglas MacArthur was relieved of his command because he refused to explain to the United States... Yeah, he refused to give his orders to his troops beforehand to the Security Council that went directly to the Russians.

02:38:05.000 That's right.

02:38:07.000 That was the problem.

02:38:08.000 MacArthur was on to the fact that the New World Order was operational at that time and he wasn't allowed to win the war.

02:38:15.000 It was designed to be a limited... But the really last straw though was that they were killing a bunch of our troops and he did want to drop bombs on them.

02:38:23.000 Oh really?

02:38:24.000 He told them I'm going to drop bombs on you and then the Soviets complained and that was it. 0.77

02:38:29.000 Well, that may well be it.

02:38:30.000 Anyway, the most important information I've come upon today was that, according to the Public Affairs Officer at NORTHCOM, the nuclear terror drill, which is slated for August, is set to begin tomorrow.

02:38:42.000 But there's another thing.

02:38:44.000 In my Israel, Mossad, Iran, and nuclear false flag attack, I've received a lot of response over the Internet, and a gentleman has called in, has written back to me to say that He's a former Air Force, and he says that all of the leaves for the Army have been canceled for the month of September, beginning September 7th.

02:39:07.000 Which means that... Well, we've been getting that same info, and again, I, on air, disagreed with people.

02:39:13.000 I said, I don't think we're going to have a Are you on a cordless phone?

02:39:21.000 I'm not on a cordless phone and I've never had this problem before.

02:39:24.000 There may be some interference.

02:39:25.000 Sounds like somebody else is on it.

02:39:30.000 Going back to the point, I forgot what the point was now.

02:39:36.000 I'm concerned about the fact that The military leaves have all been cancelled for the month of September, which means that there's potentially some... Oh, also, if you look on the NORTHCOM website, you'll see that it actually talks about Posse Tomatatus and the incidences under which Posse Tomatatus can, in fact, Uh, be gotten around.

02:39:57.000 There's apparently, there's an insurrection act, and then there's another instance, uh, in which it is legal for the United States military to provide police powers.

02:40:04.000 Uh, and the Washington Post this week just released an article stating that, uh, North Carolina has devised plans for military policing of the United States of America in the event of a terror scenario, which would overwhelm the, the, uh, civilians.

02:40:18.000 And General Tommy Franks, also our aficionado, Yeah, we almost can't keep you on.

02:40:27.000 I'm concerned that this is a deliberate attack on the phone line.

02:40:30.000 Well, who knows.

02:40:34.000 Now, to be specific here, Tommy Frank said this is the exact type of thing.

02:40:38.000 He said, one more attack, set aside the Constitution for a military form of government, which is exactly what the military-industrial complex wants.

02:40:47.000 And I was one of the people that said, no, I don't think a nuke's going to go off on the 6th of the 9th, even though the Pentagon was putting that out.

02:40:54.000 It was on mainstream media saying, He wants to attack us.

02:40:58.000 They're introducing that, though, into our minds that when the nuke goes off, it's bin Laden and NORTHCOM is going to have to have martial law.

02:41:07.000 I've got the Washington Post article telling us that martial law is actually good.

02:41:12.000 So we should be worried when they're going, we're going to be nuked.

02:41:16.000 And we're going to have martial law, okay everybody?

02:41:19.000 I mean, they're actively out-promoting that idea now.

02:41:24.000 It is so transparent.

02:41:26.000 And folks, giving your rights up, even if they shut off a nuke, isn't going to keep you safe.

02:41:30.000 In fact, it's going to mean the opposite.

02:41:32.000 Go ahead.

02:41:33.000 Well, CIA agent, former CIA, DIA agent, Phil Giraldi, also went public a couple weeks ago in the American Conservative Magazine, stating that Vice President Shane had tasked Straton with...

02:41:47.000 This is electronic countermeasures.

02:41:53.000 Are we still on?

02:41:55.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:41:56.000 Strategic Command has been tasked with designing a nuclear strike attack plan for Iran in the event...

02:42:02.000 Hey, I'll tell you what.

02:42:08.000 Leland?

02:42:10.000 In response to a nuclear attack on the United States of America, or a similar terrorist situation.

02:42:17.000 Hey, I'll tell you what, we gotta let you go.

02:42:21.000 Listen, will you put a report together for us, okay?

02:42:26.000 And we'll get it up on Prison Planet and InfoWars right now, okay bro?

02:42:32.000 Thanks, thanks for the call.

02:42:34.000 Boy, there we go.

02:42:36.000 Good guy, reporting for KBSF, been on his show a couple times, and also writes for the Santa Fe, a major daily newspaper.

02:42:44.000 But that interview is now over.

02:42:47.000 And that was on a landline, and he was saying that doesn't happen before.

02:42:51.000 So, who knows what it is.

02:42:53.000 Probably just water in the phone lines, as they say.

02:42:56.000 I found if they want to cut a phone line off, folks, they just cut it off.

02:43:00.000 Might just be Murphy's Law today.

02:43:03.000 But, uh, or is it a test for something bigger?

02:43:06.000 But clearly, their agenda is plunging, their approval ratings are plunging, the criminality of what they're involved in is plunging, there's all these, uh, criminal investigations.

02:43:16.000 We do know there are criminal investigations of the White House for leaking of Dick Cheney.

02:43:21.000 That is admitted!

02:43:23.000 You know, we lose the forest for the trees.

02:43:25.000 We don't know if they've really been indicted.

02:43:27.000 They have no comment.

02:43:28.000 I've called, uh, the U.S.

02:43:30.000 Attorney's Office in Chicago.

02:43:32.000 They say no comment.

02:43:34.000 Because they are doing a criminal investigation.

02:43:36.000 The criminal investigation is admitted of this White House.

02:43:40.000 People like it's far-fetched to say there could be a secret indictment.

02:43:43.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

02:43:45.000 I know they're criminally investigating the Valerie Plain case.

02:43:48.000 I mean, everybody knows that.

02:43:49.000 You got all this swarming around, and all the globalists can do is blow something up.

02:43:56.000 And will flying planes in the buildings be big enough this time?

02:44:00.000 They've been hyping nuke, nuke, nuke, nuke, nuke, bio, bio, bio, bio, bio, And I'm not even saying that's going to happen.

02:44:07.000 Just fear-mongering it enough.

02:44:09.000 I mean, it's the government.

02:44:10.000 All these, what, ten reports last week that I counted, where Bin Laden's going to nuke us next week?

02:44:15.000 I mean, we didn't say that.

02:44:16.000 And then when it didn't happen, people, well, you said there'd be... No, I never said that.

02:44:21.000 I heard other patriots, and a good go, it's probably going to happen.

02:44:25.000 People I had never, who were less radical and less out of the limb than I am, were saying, Alex, I think it's a super good chance it's probably going to happen.

02:44:32.000 The Israelis are saying it.

02:44:33.000 The government's saying it.

02:44:35.000 You know, they're the ones that always fearmonger first.

02:44:38.000 We pick it up, and then we're bad for reporting on it.

02:44:43.000 But it still has the same psychological effect.

02:44:44.000 I mean, it was the Navy report in 1998 that said, Y2K, 68 cities, no power, hundreds of thousands dying, riots.

02:44:55.000 And by six months before Y2K, I said, folks, nothing's going to happen.

02:44:58.000 I said maybe a nuclear reactor might have a problem, because they've been saying it will, and maybe some lights will go off, but it isn't as bad as they say.

02:45:06.000 This is an excuse to put in a new infrastructure of kill switches and control grids.

02:45:12.000 And then it came out that indeed, to build emergency management FEMA command centers in every city and county, to covertly, really in plain view, federalize local cities and counties, They put in Giuliani's command bunker, which they then used, the evidence shows, to carry out the 9-11 attacks.

02:45:28.000 Then they blow up the command bunker itself on 9-11, Building 7, where the CIA was based as well.

02:45:38.000 I mean, it's the same thing over and over and over and over again.

02:45:44.000 And make no mistake, Northcom is talking about martial law.

02:45:47.000 You know, Gannett News Service, Reuters, Cigar Aficionado, L.A.

02:45:52.000 Times.

02:45:52.000 I mean, I've got all the articles.

02:45:53.000 They're in my films.

02:45:55.000 Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

02:45:57.000 Made 2 years ago.

02:45:59.000 2 years and 3 months ago.

02:46:00.000 Released.

02:46:01.000 Has all the news articles.

02:46:02.000 We blow up the text, zoom it up for you.

02:46:04.000 You can read it right there.

02:46:09.000 So, I mean, they could do it any time, folks.

02:46:12.000 I think they're doing trial balloons.

02:46:14.000 It's like they had a trial balloon for Alberto Gonzalez to be Supreme Court.

02:46:17.000 Bush had a trial balloon for total blanket, complete amnesty.

02:46:21.000 Then he got up and said, but it's not amnesty.

02:46:23.000 It's the biggest amnesty ever.

02:46:26.000 This is a trial balloon right now.

02:46:28.000 Call the White House.

02:46:29.000 You haven't heard this in four years.

02:46:33.000 In fact, a little over four years ago, July 25th, 2001, I got on air and did three hours without taking a phone call, repeating the White House and Congress phone numbers, saying don't carry out a terror attack.

02:46:47.000 And I think enough of the stars of a line, I think enough evidence is there, that they are seriously considering detonating weapons in this country.

02:46:57.000 Large ones.

02:46:59.000 And the jig is up, folks.

02:47:00.000 Then we go to a whole new dimension.

02:47:04.000 I mean, you think they want to arrest people for asking them questions now?

02:47:08.000 You think they built FEMA camps for nothing?

02:47:10.000 You gotta... It's not gonna work.

02:47:11.000 You know what?

02:47:12.000 I predict if they detonate the weapon, it's the end.

02:47:15.000 They have sealed their fate. 1.00

02:47:17.000 You go ahead, you arrogant bastards. 1.00

02:47:19.000 You go ahead and bring it up to the next level. 1.00

02:47:22.000 You go ahead! 0.99

02:47:23.000 I pray you don't kill those people. 0.99

02:47:26.000 I pray that God stays your hand and that your own generals blow the whistle on you. 0.77

02:47:31.000 I gotta get a hold of Kevin...

02:47:33.000 P. Burns, this four-star Brigadier General, fired only a couple cases of that in modern history back since MacArthur's day, as our guest mentioned.

02:47:48.000 Other shows don't talk about this.

02:47:49.000 Even other Patriot shows don't have this analysis.

02:47:51.000 I don't know why they don't.

02:47:52.000 I don't know why they don't get the big picture, but they don't.

02:47:55.000 That's why, frankly, this broadcast is important.

02:47:57.000 I'm not saying I'm even that good, but I'm better than most.

02:48:00.000 Better than the others.

02:48:01.000 That's why it's important that your stations carry this show.

02:48:04.000 And carry more hours of this broadcast.

02:48:06.000 Because we tell it like it is.

02:48:08.000 We have the guest on.

02:48:09.000 We have the up-to-the-minute analysis.

02:48:12.000 You know, I've been pretty hardcore lately.

02:48:14.000 I've been pretty, uh, you know, fired up.

02:48:17.000 Because you can see, oh, I get that same feeling.

02:48:20.000 I get that same indication.

02:48:24.000 And you know, I don't do this every day or every week like some other people.

02:48:27.000 I mean, you know, every four years.

02:48:30.000 I'm telling ya, they're in trouble and they gotta do something.

02:48:34.000 And uh... I pray to God they don't detonate a nuke.

02:48:39.000 Will the New World Order detonate a nuke?

02:48:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:40.000 Leland Lerman is going to be doing a report for us.

02:51:53.000 So is Paul Watson about this four-star general being fired.

02:51:57.000 Connected to Northcom.

02:51:59.000 We also have, for a few minutes here, Bill Mitchell out there a few miles away from the Crawford Ranch where they've been talking about arresting people.

02:52:07.000 He lost his son.

02:52:09.000 He was killed due to this fraudulent war.

02:52:14.000 Uh, in the same battle that Cindy Sheehan lost her son.

02:52:19.000 We just got in for a few minutes to give us a report on how they're being closed in upon by the authorities and how many folks are starting to show up out there.

02:52:27.000 Bill, thanks for coming on.

02:52:29.000 Oh, great.

02:52:29.000 Good to be on.

02:52:31.000 Bill, tell us what it's like out there.

02:52:33.000 Well, I tell you, it's getting to be a madhouse as the day goes on.

02:52:36.000 There's probably at least 30, 40 cars that are here in the little camp area.

02:52:42.000 I think we have probably well over 50 people.

02:52:44.000 We have a ton of media crews.

02:52:49.000 Fox News from Austin was just out here this morning and did some interviews.

02:52:55.000 So the spirit here is great, even though we're having some rainy weather.

02:52:59.000 Now what about the threats of having you guys arrested tomorrow when Lord Rumsfeld comes into town?

02:53:08.000 You know, I'm... that's mixed on that.

02:53:10.000 There seems to be some rumors that there may be an arrest, but I hear later on that there will not be an arrest.

02:53:16.000 They tend to think there was a security, national security issue, but if there's a national security issue tomorrow, there should be a national security issue today.

02:53:24.000 Well, yeah, that's gonna... I mean, that'll really blow up in their face, no pun intended, if they start arresting people who lost their children.

02:53:35.000 Yes, and I think the reason we're in this mood is because of Bush and Lee and Reiser.

02:53:43.000 This is the day of the bad phones, folks.

02:53:47.000 Did we lose him?

02:53:51.000 Just call him back and tell him thank you.

02:53:53.000 Tell him we'll interview him when he's at the Peace House or something, not on the cell phone.

02:53:57.000 We'll get him back on in the next few days.

02:54:00.000 I'm having to decide what I want to go cover.

02:54:04.000 I probably won't go out to Crawford.

02:54:06.000 You should!

02:54:07.000 It's just, uh, you know, really, I have no desire to be in front of TV cameras.

02:54:13.000 I only go where I really need to get a story that nobody else is covering.

02:54:17.000 Like what's going on on the border right now.

02:54:19.000 Total bedlam.

02:54:20.000 And total, just, absolute breakdown and anarchy, and our government's manipulating all of this.

02:54:27.000 And then, uh, the way they're hyping nukes going off, the, uh, how their approval ratings are plunging.

02:54:32.000 You know, Bill Clinton's approval rating hit 32%, he blew up Oklahoma City.

02:54:37.000 Bush's hit the low 40s and was plunging and he couldn't go into Iraq, so boom, 9-11.

02:54:43.000 And folks, when Bush's approval rating hits 32, which it's now hit, in major polls, be afraid, be very afraid.

02:54:52.000 We're out of time, we'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, back tomorrow, 11 to 2, God willing.

02:54:57.000 But call the White House, call Congress, and tell them we know the government's behind it.

02:55:01.000 The same Pentagon that planned Northwoods is planning other stuff right now.

02:55:06.000 And these are the times that try men and women's souls.

02:55:08.000 And never stop getting my videos, and never stop making copies of them, so when there are terrorist attacks, people know who was behind it.

02:55:16.000 And they know that giving up your liberties doesn't give you security.

02:55:19.000 But it's pretty obvious when the government... Oh, we had a terrorist hit us!

02:55:23.000 Now give us your rights! 1.00

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02:55:27.000 That stops Al-Qaeda!

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Alex Jones Show - August 10, 2005

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