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00:00:16.000 We're gonna be going to Tom Flacco here in just a minute or two.

00:00:20.000 Written for World Net Daily and about 50 other major publications.

00:00:23.000 Gone to many of the 9-11 Whitewash Commission meetings.

00:00:26.000 Broken big story after big story that have panned out to be very, very accurate.

00:00:32.000 This new one, he's gotten a lot of info from intelligence and people on the fringes of intelligence.

00:00:37.000 We know there's a criminal grand jury that is investigating the Valerie Plame leaks.

00:00:41.000 That's admitted.

00:00:43.000 Some people even have trouble dealing with that.

00:00:45.000 That's like Time Magazine, folks.

00:00:47.000 But this latest claim by some is that indictments have been handed down.

00:00:53.000 So, that's coming up in a minute or two.

00:00:55.000 And then later, officials warn a possibility of attack around September 11th, New York Times.

00:01:02.000 More fear-mongering.

00:01:03.000 Another report here, FBI terror attacks here in New York, LA, Chicago.

00:01:07.000 Oh, we better have checkpoints and train you all how to be slaves. 1.00

00:01:10.000 Texas becomes the nation's newest majority-minority state.

00:01:16.000 You gotta love that.

00:01:17.000 They're the minority, but they're the majority, and they're gonna be the minority even when there's, you know, I mean, you gotta love it, folks.

00:01:24.000 I'm gonna comment on this.

00:01:26.000 Also, Saddam is a speedy execution. 0.97

00:01:29.000 That's like busting a capo in a mafia regime and having the leader of the, you know, the Don, Who ordered the Capo to carry out crimes, then the Don orders his public execution for carrying out the crimes.

00:01:44.000 People go, no!

00:01:45.000 No, the Don needs to get in trouble, and our government is the Don.

00:01:50.000 So, the Don being the mob boss, folks.

00:01:52.000 So, that's coming up. 0.59

00:01:54.000 Two more news on our troops being drugged with amnesiacs. 0.99

00:01:57.000 This is mainstream news after they go out and kill women and children. 0.99

00:02:01.000 Our government drugs them.

00:02:03.000 Turns out that American media, the folks that give you all the big tabloids, are being used as influence peddlers, basically to protect Schwarzenegger.

00:02:09.000 This is L.A.

00:02:10.000 Times.

00:02:11.000 They would go buy up stories just to keep him quiet.

00:02:14.000 Oh yeah, that's real old.

00:02:16.000 But now it's the L.A.

00:02:17.000 A lot of that stuff's coming up, but for the next hour...

00:02:17.000 Times.

00:02:20.000 We have got Tom Flacco.

00:02:23.000 Last but not least, didn't have time to plug it properly last hour.

00:02:27.000 My new film, 9-11, Rise of the Police State, Marshall Law, 9-11, Rise of the Police State, is a mini-series, and it covers the latest police state developments.

00:02:36.000 I mean, on the ground, we show it to you, around the country and in New York.

00:02:40.000 Sound cannons, hover blimps, police arresting people and putting them in private, merc-controlled, you know, Bechtel, George Shultz camps.

00:02:50.000 Just incredible stuff where we get threatened with arrest every day.

00:02:53.000 Then we spend an hour on who carried out 9-11.

00:02:57.000 We confront Michael Moore for whitewashing.

00:03:00.000 We confront David Gergen about being a member of a satanic organization.

00:03:04.000 And he blows up and admits it all.

00:03:07.000 That's the Karl Rove of four administrations.

00:03:10.000 Look, we just go where the truth leads us, and it is a bizarre and shocking and powerful film.

00:03:16.000 We've also got American Dictators, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror.

00:03:20.000 I'm carrying Joyce Riley and William Lewis's new powerful film, Beyond Treason, about the government knowingly testing chemical and biologicals on troops.

00:03:29.000 Killing them in many cases?

00:03:31.000 I mean, this shows you who the government is. 0.99

00:03:33.000 Criminals, folks.

00:03:34.000 Criminals have got control of the government. 0.90

00:03:36.000 We've got that video, a lot of other books and videos.

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00:04:43.000 Alright, go on to Tom Plonko.

00:04:45.000 Tom, been on many, many times.

00:04:46.000 Just does a great job.

00:04:49.000 And Tom, it's good to have you on with us.

00:04:50.000 Hi Alex, how are you?

00:04:52.000 Good.

00:04:53.000 I know that you've had some intelligence groups, Group 5 and others, trying to go after you.

00:04:59.000 And we've tracked a lot of these groups back to kind of these shadowy private merc groups that are really government, but are privately run, like the prisons and everything else.

00:05:09.000 But that doesn't matter.

00:05:10.000 You're reporting on things that are very important, and it's good to have you on with us.

00:05:15.000 Well, thank you very much, Alex.

00:05:17.000 As you know, the last couple stories, the financial terrorism towers over 9-11, and my report about the Bush-Cheney indictments, as you said to me on the pre-production issues, we were discussing that there is a criminal grand jury that's convened in Chicago.

00:05:36.000 And a lot of people don't realize this, that there are facilities for 6, 7, 8 grand juries within that building.

00:05:45.000 You know, and so I've been told that there are other groups.

00:05:50.000 We don't know how many.

00:05:51.000 I don't know where they all are.

00:05:53.000 I don't know what cities.

00:05:54.000 I don't know what, you know, the locations, that kind of thing.

00:05:57.000 But we know that in Chicago itself that there are individuals working there, and they're intently been working over a year, year and a half or so regarding this issue.

00:06:07.000 And from what I understand now, that they're going a little deeper than the Valerie Plain because you know you get one piece of evidence and then it steps on another piece and it leads to another leg and another direction.

00:06:21.000 So right off the bat... Well let's be clear.

00:06:23.000 People have gone to prison at Enron which the Bushes were neck deep in.

00:06:29.000 I mean, Alberto Gonzalez was an Enron lawyer.

00:06:31.000 I mean, they're their biggest contributors.

00:06:34.000 They were heavily invested They're involved, though, in things much bigger than that.

00:06:39.000 The trillions missing from the Pentagon.

00:06:41.000 We have the House hearings on that.

00:06:43.000 I mean, they're involved in bid rigging.

00:06:45.000 They're involved in...Shaney openly gives contracts to his wife on the board of Lockheed Martin.

00:06:51.000 You're like a veritable fact factory.

00:06:54.000 I stay into one in certain areas.

00:06:56.000 And when you put all that news up, it's absolutely incredible what's going on.

00:07:00.000 But when you look back Yeah, let's be clear.

00:07:05.000 I mean, you're giving us the background right now, but let's, and we'll go into all that, because it's mainstream news about drug dealing and money laundering and, I mean, folks, Bill Clinton pardons Giant coke dealers, you know, giving money in the White House. 0.80

00:07:23.000 I mean, it's public.

00:07:25.000 But I mean, all of this goes on.

00:07:26.000 I mean, our government deals the drugs.

00:07:28.000 The Bushes are the biggest crime family in America, you know, that we publicly know about.

00:07:31.000 I mean, they are a crime family for 60 years, 70 years.

00:07:35.000 But I mean, I want to go back, though, just in a nutshell, the big story is We know there's criminal grand juries looking at the Valerie Plame issue.

00:07:44.000 That's admitted.

00:07:45.000 But then you get intel from sources.

00:07:48.000 Tell us about those sources.

00:07:50.000 Tell us specifically.

00:07:51.000 I have specifically been talking to a fellow by the name of Tom Hennigan from California.

00:07:57.000 Tom is a broker by trade and he also has sources within intelligence.

00:08:05.000 If you look at the whole intelligence organization, many of them deal with the stock market and that's no accident, I believe.

00:08:12.000 Well, that's so they can manipulate it also.

00:08:14.000 Well, Alex, I'm not accusing Tom, I'm not saying Tom Hennigan is manipulating.

00:08:20.000 Nobody said that.

00:08:20.000 Tom Hennigan is actually, it was actually providing evidence along with many other intelligence linked people who are in and out.

00:08:29.000 Hey, Tom Flacco, I'm going to have to stop you for a second.

00:08:32.000 No one said that he was.

00:08:36.000 You moved on after you talked about him and you said many members who were involved in the stock market, you said intelligence.

00:08:49.000 He's not intelligence.

00:08:51.000 You talked about a broker, then you talked about intelligence.

00:08:54.000 Yes, many of them.

00:08:55.000 And then I said intelligence is in it to make money and in some cases with the promise software to track and trace what different groups are doing.

00:09:06.000 Right, there you go.

00:09:07.000 We'll make sure we get that right.

00:09:09.000 But what I've been told too is that there are many Thousands of intelligence people who are absolutely fed up with what is going on, from going back to the China missile codes and all that kind of thing, up to the 9-11.

00:09:22.000 And now, with the issues of the plane investigation, it was kind of almost like the straw that broke the camel's back.

00:09:28.000 Because the plane issue, there are individuals that are linked to her.

00:09:32.000 She was involved in some deep intelligence work, the way I understand it, at one time.

00:09:36.000 And there are people linked to her, and of course, you have people getting You know, murdered or whatever over the links that get discovered in something like this.

00:09:47.000 So, there are a series of issues going on and there are a lot of people in intelligence that are handing over evidence.

00:09:52.000 And I don't know about the witness situation, but evidence and documents are coming forward.

00:09:57.000 And they're getting sent.

00:09:58.000 And Hannigan is just one of many who have carted evidence up to some of these grand juries.

00:10:03.000 And I happen to know that a lot of evidence has been taken to Elliot Spitzer's Grand Jury up in either it's either in New York or Albany he and uh... what's his name the other Morgenthau and uh... they've done nothing and they've had this evidence for Six, seven, eight, nine months.

00:10:19.000 I was about to say, we know that criminal complaints have been filed by families and lawyers with Spitzer and others.

00:10:27.000 So again, that's part of the record.

00:10:28.000 Yeah, his issue, I believe, Alex, is get the reputation as being a crime buster for stock market fraud.

00:10:35.000 And then be a whitewasher. 0.81

00:10:37.000 But it's linked, yes.

00:10:38.000 But stock market is fraud, and people make money off of 9-11, and stock market fraud is involved in all of this.

00:10:44.000 And, you know, it's like every time you turn over one rock, it leads to another piece of evidence.

00:10:49.000 You go into one door, it opens up another door.

00:10:51.000 So those are issues that are going to have to be dealt with.

00:10:55.000 So if people like Mr. Hannigan is handing over documents, Uh, through other people or through himself or whatever.

00:11:03.000 He's one of many.

00:11:05.000 And this evidence is finding its way to the grand jury.

00:11:07.000 Well, he's doing a great job.

00:11:09.000 We appreciate him.

00:11:10.000 You know, folks out there that have these contacts.

00:11:12.000 But, I mean, to go back to why intelligence is mad, and we know this.

00:11:16.000 This has even been in the mainstream news.

00:11:18.000 I mean, they sell out Valerie Plame and all those under. 0.70

00:11:21.000 They sell out countless other agents.

00:11:23.000 They're constantly lying. 0.95

00:11:25.000 They're constantly... And look, people aren't dumb in intelligence. 0.55

00:11:28.000 They know other compartmentalized groups carried out 9-11.

00:11:30.000 Now, Mr. Hannigan says...

00:11:33.000 Yes, stay there.

00:11:33.000 But there was a Mary Madeline, the White House Senior Counselor for the Vice President, and Senior Counselor, President Carl Roeburn, were also incited for perjury.

00:11:43.000 And there was a document shredding operation that was going on.

00:11:47.000 And this was confirmed.

00:11:49.000 If you read between the lines in the next segment, we can get into that.

00:11:51.000 Yeah, stay there.

00:11:52.000 Tom Flacco, stay with us, folks.

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00:15:52.000 So we've got all this criminality going on.

00:15:54.000 So we've got all this criminality going on, admittedly.

00:16:08.000 All these people around El Presidente in the past few years, past four years, being indicted, going to prison.

00:16:16.000 All over the place.

00:16:19.000 And then there are criminal grand juries impaneled looking at the plaintiff incident.

00:16:24.000 And then we start hearing that they've been undotted.

00:16:26.000 Now again, I don't know if that's true or not.

00:16:28.000 I'm going to talk to Tom Flacco about it, but I know this, they can also use these grand juries To suck up all the data, and to have good people come forward and have whistleblowers blow their whistles there, and then never do anything with it.

00:16:41.000 I call it kind of a sponge operation.

00:16:44.000 And I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but they own and run a lot of these federal grand juries, and I know they control these U.S.

00:16:50.000 attorneys, but we have seen rogue ones in the past.

00:16:53.000 I don't trust Spitzer as far as you can throw him in New York with the state's office.

00:17:00.000 But I do know intelligence people are mad and know what's going on.

00:17:04.000 Tom, finish up what you were trying to say.

00:17:06.000 You're exactly correct with that issue.

00:17:08.000 The Spitzer situation is out of control. 0.58

00:17:13.000 They're working on securities, but they're not getting into the 9-11 issues.

00:17:18.000 There's plenty of evidence, as you know, with regard to the trading and so forth that went on.

00:17:22.000 And it was more massive than I had known before.

00:17:26.000 And there was evidence and indications of that that's coming forth.

00:17:30.000 Now also, as far as Mr. Fitzgerald goes, he's got a lot of authority and there's issues now.

00:17:39.000 I believe that they can't fire him a la the Archibald Cox situation because it would be akin to what happened with the Nixon situation where he tried to cut off future investigation of the criminality.

00:17:52.000 But what they've got now is a situation where they've got to neuter him or something.

00:17:56.000 And your issue of the sponge issue is very, very possible.

00:18:00.000 This, you know, seeking and getting information and grabbing and finding out who the witnesses are, find out what the testimony is, the word gets back.

00:18:08.000 And what's amazing to me, Alex, is here you had all these individuals, the President, the Vice President, all of his staff, all the counselors, the Attorney General, the former Attorney General, all been subpoenaed That never made the news.

00:18:21.000 That's news in itself, Alex.

00:18:22.000 Well, to show you how fake the left-right paradigm is, and how at the top the parties are all together...

00:18:29.000 Don't think that Mary Madeline would be allowed to work as a chief advisor in the White House for two seconds if Carville wasn't on board. 1.00

00:18:38.000 And this goes back to the Bushes.

00:18:41.000 We know, being in business with Clinton, and now Barbara calls him son, and he's a surrogate member of the family.

00:18:50.000 I mean, you've got this husband and wife team.

00:18:52.000 Mary Madeline and Carvel are married and she's one of the top strategists in the White House.

00:18:59.000 That's just a side issue.

00:19:02.000 Yes, that's a very important point and often times neglected by most people and not really considered.

00:19:08.000 There's no question about that.

00:19:10.000 You've got all these issues and you've got individuals that are there who are Who are a part of this, but you had subpoenas.

00:19:18.000 All these people went and got, were subpoenaed.

00:19:20.000 That never made the news.

00:19:21.000 Then they get, then they get, uh, um, go in and testify.

00:19:24.000 Think about the President of the United States, the Vice President, Alberto Gonzalez, the current Attorney General, former Attorney General Ashcroft, now they're all testifying.

00:19:34.000 And, and they've got, if they haven't all testified, at least some of them have testified.

00:19:39.000 Uh, we don't know the details of that, where they testified.

00:19:42.000 No, I know.

00:19:43.000 Listen, I... That has not made the news, Alex.

00:19:45.000 That subpoena would be major news.

00:19:48.000 The testimony would be more major news.

00:19:50.000 None of it is on the air.

00:19:52.000 Left-wingers, right-wingers, it's not on the air.

00:19:55.000 The Democrats aren't talking about it.

00:19:57.000 Republicans aren't talking about it.

00:19:58.000 And now I come along and say, in a criminal grand jury where there's been subpoenas, where there have been, uh, There has been testimony.

00:20:05.000 Now I'm saying that there have been indictments through my source, Thomas Hennigan, who is providing, now think about it, he's providing evidence to the grand jury.

00:20:14.000 Is it possible that he, is it possible that friends around him have sources within or surrounding the grand jury?

00:20:21.000 I think it's quite possible.

00:20:23.000 Now the other reason I went with the Tom Hennigan issue is that I've been on the phone with him quite a bit over the last few months.

00:20:29.000 He has analyzed documents which I didn't understand that well because I had not had the background.

00:20:35.000 I've had a relationship.

00:20:36.000 I've heard him on the air.

00:20:38.000 He is tremendously articulate.

00:20:40.000 He's a real patriot as far as I'm concerned.

00:20:43.000 A lot of people are going to say, oh, you're being snookered by somebody that's trying to diss him.

00:20:47.000 No, not when you talk with somebody.

00:20:49.000 When I talk to Alex Jones four, five, six, seven times, you get a little bit about Alex Jones' personality.

00:20:55.000 Same thing with Jeff Rance.

00:20:57.000 Any of the guys that I go on the air with, you get to know a little bit about them.

00:21:00.000 I trust this guy and I believe that I'm looking at the documents that he's showing me.

00:21:06.000 Now, I have some handwriting samples of the people that wrote a couple of these documents myself.

00:21:11.000 I had them before he showed me what he had, and gave them to me.

00:21:14.000 This other story, which deals with the financial terrorism, is absolutely incredible.

00:21:20.000 The documents prove that there was knowledge of things going on after the attacks.

00:21:25.000 And that's where we're getting into 9-11.

00:21:27.000 And this evidence has also been presented to the grand jury.

00:21:31.000 All these documents, it's already there.

00:21:33.000 It's the only reason I was allowed to write about it, because they already have it, they've already discussed it.

00:21:38.000 And then that ties into Civil Levens, who's saying they're a bunch of drug dealing murderers, basically, in the White House.

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00:24:55.000 I have heard press discussion of, you know, will the vice president and president be called?

00:25:08.000 Can they be called by a grand jury?

00:25:11.000 But that's really all I've heard.

00:25:12.000 Melissa is first, and then Malta, Mark, Jeff, many others.

00:25:17.000 We'll take some calls for Tom Flogel coming up here in about 10 minutes, so be patient.

00:25:21.000 But we've got a lot more to talk about here with Tom first.

00:25:24.000 Tom, you were beginning to get into 9-11 and its connections to this.

00:25:30.000 Go ahead.

00:25:30.000 The financial terrorism story, financial terrorism towers over 9-11.

00:25:35.000 I think it's one of the most heavily sourced things I've ever done, and it's a very, very important story in my opinion.

00:25:42.000 It deals with White House crime families, and I'm talking about plural here, and it's just incredible stuff.

00:25:49.000 The issues of the Congressional poll ratings and how they indicate that there's credible evidence that the World Trade Center was taken down by a controlled demolition.

00:26:05.000 And if you look at the slowed down, slow motion DVDs that are out there all over the internet, one I particularly like, Loose Change, because it's only 59 minutes long, it slows down to a crawl, so you can look at, you can see the explosions coming out of the sides of the tower that many of them have already seen, but I found new flashes that were in the towers that are there, and this kind of stuff is taken from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC broadcast on the day of 9-11.

00:26:32.000 It's just filled with stuff.

00:26:35.000 I looked at that material and it just blew my mind.

00:26:38.000 I had not seen some of the physical or the actual evidence of a visual nature.

00:26:43.000 And then you've got interviews.

00:26:44.000 You've got radios in the tower.

00:26:45.000 There's bombs going off in the tower on the 4th through the 12th floor.

00:26:50.000 There's another bomb on the 15th floor.

00:26:52.000 You have radio things that are out there.

00:26:54.000 A lot of these DVCs carry them where you can actually hear the radio calls.

00:26:59.000 None of this was carried by the 9-11 Commission.

00:27:01.000 None of it was played, and they didn't bring in the firemen, they didn't bring in any of the real evidence of the towers being collapsed.

00:27:09.000 I sat there in those hearings, and I saw the thing.

00:27:12.000 I witnessed it.

00:27:13.000 It was basically a fraud and a cover-up that was masked under what looked to be an educational and very astute set of words and documents and so forth, but it was more like a novel than it was really an investigation.

00:27:30.000 You know, and then Sabel Edmonds, well that whole issue, I wrote four stories and I had four interviews with Sabel Edmonds.

00:27:37.000 The last one I did at her press conference dealt with the issue of her court case, which now she's trying to appeal to the Supreme Court.

00:27:45.000 In essence, she said she heard things, or she actually translated and went through intercepts that translated these intercepts, which indicated that there were individuals in the United States government.

00:27:57.000 Now, I've interviewed Sabel enough times Now, this is the fourth time to know that I had to make up questions that would be denial things.

00:28:04.000 So I would, I approached her with the issues.

00:28:06.000 Sabel, would you, do you deny that there were a number of Americans that you heard the names of famous American politicians and political leaders and famous heads of federal agencies?

00:28:18.000 Do you deny that there were, that there were 10 or so On the tapes that you heard and she said, I will not deny that.

00:28:25.000 So I got a non-denial out of her because she is gagged. 1.00

00:28:29.000 You know, but she said... Those who don't know, I mean, they're threatening to arrest her.

00:28:32.000 It's the same thing with FBI agent Robert Wright and others.

00:28:35.000 Exactly, that's right.

00:28:37.000 Alex, you're right on the money with that.

00:28:38.000 Exactly right.

00:28:39.000 Wright's another one.

00:28:40.000 He broke down in his interview with Larry Claymore on C-SPAN.

00:28:44.000 I saw it.

00:28:44.000 But the issue here is that Hear what we're saying.

00:28:48.000 What is she saying here?

00:28:49.000 She's saying that ten famous American political leaders, and I think one of them was a former president.

00:28:56.000 She would not admit that, but she smiled, you know.

00:29:00.000 That ten famous American political leaders and heads of federal agencies were involved in drug money laundering and financing the 9-11 attacks.

00:29:10.000 Now how more specific can you get?

00:29:13.000 And you can see that the woman is facing a lot of pressure.

00:29:17.000 You know about Mary Schneider.

00:29:18.000 What happened with her?

00:29:20.000 She's lost her home.

00:29:20.000 She's basically going to go homeless in the next couple weeks it's going to be.

00:29:24.000 And because she exposed Uh, the fact that there were illegal Muslim rings running around in Florida and our own congressman Rick Keller wouldn't do anything about it. 0.70

00:29:33.000 I flew down there and talked to his chief of staff and he just looked at me smiling and said, well, that's not our prerogative.

00:29:40.000 We can't investigate this.

00:29:41.000 I said, how come you can't?

00:29:44.000 Congressman Keller is a member of the Terrorism Subcommittee.

00:29:47.000 Now, if he can't investigate terrorism cells in his own congressional district, then who can?

00:29:53.000 And then I went over and I crossed the street.

00:29:55.000 Literally, I crossed the street in Orlando and I walked into the office of Of Senator Nelson, the Democrat.

00:30:02.000 And I talked to one of his top staff aides.

00:30:05.000 She said, we can't investigate this.

00:30:07.000 And the same thing.

00:30:07.000 It's a run-around.

00:30:08.000 Well, if you can't investigate terrorism in your own state, which senator is going to do it?

00:30:12.000 Somebody from Nebraska or Ohio or someplace?

00:30:15.000 So what we have here is people are looking the other way.

00:30:18.000 They're winking and nodding.

00:30:19.000 And trust me, Alex, there are going to be senators and congressmen that are under investigation right now, secretively, I don't know as far as the Grand Jury, but I'll tell you what, I've been hearing this, that there are going to be individuals who are going to face some investigation with regard to this and this whole cover-up, because they saw the same intelligence briefing that the President saw, maybe a little more redacted.

00:30:42.000 When I looked at, there was mention of that in one of the hearings that went along that the Senate had before they punted the ball over to the 9-11 Commission.

00:30:50.000 But the issue there is that there are congressmen and senators on the Intelligence Committee who are looking the other way.

00:30:56.000 And I'll tell you, it is infuriating a lot of Americans.

00:30:59.000 But guess who it's infuriating more?

00:31:01.000 It's infuriating the intelligence patriots, guys who have families just like you and me, and they're seeing this whole thing just basically being taken down.

00:31:11.000 And because the media has total control over things, You know, there's another issue.

00:31:17.000 There are going to be media people that are involved.

00:31:19.000 But getting back into the story now.

00:31:21.000 I started to talk about paper shredding.

00:31:25.000 Hennigan said that he has heard through sources, that the investigation, that there has been evidence of document shredding in the White House.

00:31:33.000 That's a pretty strong charge, and he said, well, he said that what we're hearing is that Mary Madeline and Karl Rove have been indicted, or have been, their true bills, I believe, I don't, there are people that are more legal than I am on this thing, but the grand jury has to vote what Porter called true bills, and those are what are handed down, and they have not been publicized yet.

00:31:57.000 Now, the problem here is that We know, and this runs into a lot of legs, what happens to those true bills?

00:32:06.000 Can they control the grand jury? 0.94

00:32:07.000 Can they control the prosecutor? 0.94

00:32:09.000 Can they get evidence?

00:32:10.000 Can they be sponges?

00:32:12.000 Can they blow up the building?

00:32:14.000 Now I just got news, one of my researchers, and actually it's a great patriotic woman, Mary Snyder, called me this morning before the show and she said, Tom, you've got to see this.

00:32:23.000 There is a website, a paper that's been active since 1905 Just reporting General Chicago News.

00:32:31.000 And she said that this paper reported that prior to the 18th, just a few days prior to the 18th, when CIA sources are saying that there was an attempt There was a disturbance in the Chicago subway, and that subway, where that disturbance was, is right underneath the Dirksen Federal Building, where Fitzgerald and his grand jury are hearing testimony, and witnesses, and documents, and reviewing documents.

00:32:57.000 So there was an attempt to cause a disturbance, to possibly blow up the subway area underneath.

00:33:04.000 And we found that there were reports by the Chicago Tribune that they evacuated that subway during the time period when I was told this happened.

00:33:12.000 And so that was kind of a... And then a local newspaper, a hit report, I saw that about the supposed shootout, and then that would fit going back a few months ago when the grand jury was already in panel.

00:33:18.000 No, this was on the 18th of July, Alex.

00:33:19.000 This just happened.

00:33:20.000 That's not what I was going to say.

00:33:38.000 And what Mary told me is that this report said that they disbanded an emergency management group which they reactivated three days after the attempt on July the 18th.

00:33:52.000 So what you had was a stand down before and then a reactivation of the same group.

00:33:57.000 Send me the link and I will put it up.

00:34:00.000 Tom, let me comment on what I was going to say so it's not just the first three words and people can then kind of speculate on those three words.

00:34:00.000 Sure.

00:34:07.000 What I said is, that goes back then a few months, it could, to the London bombings on 7-7 and 7-21.

00:34:15.000 The way intelligence works, if what you're saying is correct, and again this is just cloak and dagger speculation, Going back a few months, that would make perfect sense of trying to create a ledger or a history that, oh, there's a threat of bombings, which also helps the whole war agenda period.

00:34:33.000 Then if you did have a bombing that just so happened to be under that federal building, it wouldn't look as suspicious.

00:34:38.000 Yep, we're expecting it, yeah.

00:34:40.000 Well, that's an issue that really has to be... And also in England, in England they had them stand down.

00:34:48.000 They had the security stand down one month before the bombings.

00:34:52.000 Here we have, I'm going to put this up, this is what she came up with.

00:34:55.000 This is amazing stuff.

00:34:57.000 I'm going to put this up there because here is evidence that there was a stand down on security right before the... Well, I saw that a week and a half ago about how there was reports of a shootout on the subway.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, well, boy, the thing about it is, again, you're looking for, you know, was there something that went on?

00:35:14.000 And obviously there was.

00:35:15.000 They evacuated everybody out of the subway for about 45-50 minutes.

00:35:21.000 Well, we have confirmed that there were shootouts in London.

00:35:24.000 There have been multiple shootouts on 7-7 and after, and then that's just kept quiet.

00:35:30.000 And then they go in houses and shoot people, and that's for quiet.

00:35:33.000 And then they chase down this electrician who's got the military M.O. 0.99

00:35:37.000 Shoot him eight times in the head. 0.60

00:35:38.000 Turns out he wasn't wearing a coat. 0.99

00:35:40.000 Turns out he didn't run from them.

00:35:42.000 By the way, that's all confirmed now.

00:35:44.000 They just... Special Branch... I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:35:48.000 It's just absolutely incredible when this kind of stuff happens.

00:35:53.000 People just say, well, you know, can we believe this?

00:35:55.000 Why would they stop you, Tom?

00:35:57.000 For those that haven't heard about all this, and I have, we've had hundreds of deaths in one month alone in South Texas, car bombs going off in Dallas, dozens and dozens of police killed on both sides.

00:36:10.000 We have had literal Travel advisories more dangerous than Israel, State Department advisories, the U.S.

00:36:18.000 Consulate's mission closing rocket attacks, and it's a few blurbs, but nobody I've talked to, even people that watch the border, no one's aware of this!

00:36:28.000 When is this going on, Alex?

00:36:29.000 You're talking now?

00:36:31.000 Yeah, and this is just an example of how they can keep stuff quiet.

00:36:36.000 Well, can you imagine?

00:36:38.000 Well, see, the point is, You know, if you can squelch the indictments, if you can discredit anybody that's reporting any information, they won't confirm the subpoenas, they won't confirm the testimony.

00:36:50.000 You know?

00:36:50.000 Now, I see a lot of juries.

00:36:52.000 I mean, if a grand jury's not doing an investigation, they'll say, no, we're not investigating that.

00:36:56.000 No, we've no-billed that.

00:36:58.000 No, we're not looking at that evidence right now.

00:37:02.000 We're not in session for that.

00:37:03.000 They're not.

00:37:05.000 This individual is not the product of an investigation.

00:37:07.000 But no, they just say, no comment, no comment, no comment.

00:37:10.000 You know, I was on Bill Boucher's WLW out of Cincinnati.

00:37:13.000 50,000 watched 38 states the other night.

00:37:17.000 And he told me, he was so amazed, he went and literally picked up the telephone and he called Patrick Fitzgerald's office and he hammered him and he says, we will not comment on this, we will not, it is our policy not to comment on this, we will not deny it, we will not confirm it or deny it.

00:37:36.000 So we have issues that, and there are plenty of citizens that I get emails from that they called the grand jury and these people will not throw water on this thing, they will not Deny what's happened.

00:37:46.000 What we have to do now is we have to figure, well, would the indictments come down?

00:37:53.000 And will we have sponge operations?

00:37:55.000 Do we have issues of the prosecutor?

00:38:00.000 Is he going to come through?

00:38:00.000 We believe that he is going to do so.

00:38:03.000 Now, a lot of the stuff that I've been reporting on is heavily document-driven.

00:38:08.000 This financial terrorism story has two documents in it right near the top.

00:38:13.000 Which are letters from United States Asia Intel Ops to Vice President Cheney.

00:38:17.000 One of the documents says that there were boxes of cash leaving the Philippines right after 9-11.

00:38:23.000 Now, in the chain, typical chain of custody, the Vice President on a letter like this would hand this document, which came from a former Swiss Ambassador to Somalia, Leo Wanta.

00:38:36.000 Uh, and I have other documents, uh, that with his handwriting, I checked it down.

00:38:41.000 I asked, uh... Okay, but what does this... I mean, what does it mean?

00:38:44.000 What does this mean is that boxes of cash were leaving the Philippines right after 9-11.

00:38:50.000 Part of the issue was the boxes were used to finance what are called foundations legal groups.

00:38:57.000 And I've been told that the foundations legal groups had links to financing drug money laundering, financing the 9-11 attacks, those kinds of issues.

00:39:06.000 This evidence has already been handed to the grand jury.

00:39:08.000 They have already been looking at it.

00:39:12.000 It also deals with the fact that there's a chain of custody to the Vice President, to the President, to the National Security.

00:39:19.000 But here's the question, how do you get a U.S.

00:39:21.000 Attorney to call in a grand jury?

00:39:24.000 I mean, just, I'm going to tell you, Tom, I think you're a good reporter.

00:39:28.000 I think, I mean, we know there's criminal investigations.

00:39:31.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

00:39:32.000 I believe you're being told this.

00:39:33.000 I know there's documents of criminality.

00:39:35.000 I know what Civil Levins has, you know, said.

00:39:37.000 But the point is, I just find it hard to believe that a U.S.

00:39:40.000 Attorney would do this to begin with.

00:39:43.000 I've been told that Valerie Plame was involved, circuitously at least, with an investigation of 9-11, or events and money surrounding 9-11.

00:39:56.000 That was part of it.

00:39:58.000 And that issue brings the whole thing, it's like picking up, opening a door and another door opens.

00:40:04.000 Then another door opens.

00:40:06.000 The other document... See, the point is, why is Cash leaving the Philippines?

00:40:11.000 Why does the President have to know about Cash leaving the Philippines?

00:40:15.000 What is it for?

00:40:16.000 What are these foundations groups for?

00:40:18.000 There was another document in there, which was written to the Vice President from WANTA, and it said, United States Asia Intel Ops.

00:40:26.000 The document is posted online.

00:40:28.000 I got it from Spoo Web. 0.98

00:40:29.000 I said, Spoo, He called me up and said, you've got to look at this.

00:40:32.000 I said, how long has this document been on your website?

00:40:35.000 It's goodweb.com.

00:40:37.000 He said, it's been up there for 3, 4, 5 months.

00:40:39.000 I said, you're kidding me!

00:40:41.000 This second document was written to the Vice President from Watan.

00:40:44.000 He said, United States Asia Intel Ops is of the opinion that the individual who is sitting in the corner next to Osama Bin Laden, in the White House released Osama Bin Laden quote, terrorist scare tape, Was an individual that met with, 30 days after the 9-11 attacks, an individual who was an FBI special agent in charge.

00:41:07.000 Now why, which leads me to the question, why is an FBI agent special in charge, special agent in charge?

00:41:13.000 Meeting with, ostensibly representing the United States, meeting with one of the associates of Osama Bin Laden 30 days after the attack.

00:41:21.000 Well, let me just stop you.

00:41:22.000 We know that the MI6 minion, who they say is the mass bomber, is MI6 and is being protected.

00:41:35.000 That's admitted.

00:41:36.000 I mean, it just came out that the big scientist Khan, that the CIA wanted him released decades ago, and The Belgian ambassador has gone public on that.

00:41:45.000 So we've seen this time and time again.

00:41:48.000 I mean, we know that they control Al-Qaeda.

00:41:50.000 We know they do all of that.

00:41:52.000 But I mean, I still go back to documents floating around on the internet.

00:41:56.000 I mean, have you called that ambassador?

00:41:58.000 Have you talked to him?

00:41:59.000 I have talked to Leo once, but not recently.

00:42:01.000 I've talked to him in the past.

00:42:02.000 But have you talked to him?

00:42:03.000 Has he confirmed this document?

00:42:04.000 That document is his handwriting.

00:42:08.000 I have not been able to reach him because I don't have his telephone number.

00:42:11.000 I have not called him.

00:42:12.000 It's an authentic document according to intelligence sources.

00:42:15.000 That's for sure.

00:42:17.000 I can match up that document with his handwriting.

00:42:19.000 It has the typical line drawn in there and I recognize his printing because I have copies of his printing.

00:42:24.000 You know, I matched it up that way.

00:42:25.000 Now, those issues, regardless, where is the scream? 1.00

00:42:31.000 That evidence is screaming.

00:42:32.000 Mr. Vice President, Mr. President, can you explain this stuff?

00:42:37.000 It's not on our responsibility to find this out.

00:42:41.000 It's on their part to explain this.

00:42:43.000 And I believe it has been explained or it is being looked into.

00:42:47.000 I'm sure of that.

00:42:47.000 Alright, we're going to take some calls from Melissa and Malta and Mark and Jeff and others when we get back.

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00:46:08.000 Well I really appreciate investigative journalist Tom Flacco coming on with us and I'm just going to try to hold him a little bit the next hour so we can get to all your calls.

00:46:15.000 We're about to go to Melissa in Florida first during this hour.

00:46:19.000 But Tom, I didn't know until I talked to you during the break, I didn't know this was the first I don't know all the specifics.

00:46:26.000 I don't know if this is a deep intel disinfo op on multiple sides.

00:46:30.000 Internet problems, but TomFlocko.com is back up and running well.

00:46:34.000 And, yeah, you've done a lot of great work in the past, and I think whether it's smoke or spire, I don't know all the specifics.

00:46:39.000 I don't know if this is a deep intel disinfo op on multiple sides.

00:46:44.000 I don't know if it's a honeypot.

00:46:45.000 I know there's criminal investigations going on, and if somebody gets indicted for Valerie Plame out of this grand jury, we know that basically confirms a lot of this.

00:46:56.000 But, I mean, you are getting this from sources inside of there, and this is really scary because it means that the globalists are in a box right now, Tom.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, I'm getting it from sources who are providing the evidence to the grand jury, the documents.

00:47:14.000 Witnesses.

00:47:15.000 Evidence.

00:47:15.000 That's all.

00:47:17.000 Well, that's amazing.

00:47:20.000 But they're able to confirm that this grand jury is empaneled and is doing this.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, I think there's more than one, and I have not nailed this down, but I personally think there's more than one grand jury.

00:47:34.000 There were reports I saw circulating around the internet that they're getting into this Vanity Fair stuff about all of the Um, all of the, uh, William McClellan, all the, um, the individuals who have testified in the, uh, with regard, I don't know whether they've testified or not, I could say that there are individuals out there related to the Vanity Fair story about the Supreme Court in the 2000 election.

00:48:00.000 That's been floating around.

00:48:02.000 And I have not heard any of that.

00:48:03.000 Now, what about the Tony Blair thing?

00:48:04.000 What about the Tony Blair thing?

00:48:05.000 Because I don't think an American grand jury can indict Tony Blair.

00:48:10.000 The issue is that they have subpoenaed Tony Blair to come and testify.

00:48:19.000 I didn't say he was indicted, I don't believe.

00:48:21.000 In that story, it said that he had been subpoenaed.

00:48:24.000 Well, there's also a lot of disinfo about your stories going around.

00:48:26.000 You've never retracted anything, and there are people claiming that you've retracted the story, and you haven't done that.

00:48:32.000 Oh, no.

00:48:32.000 You know what happened?

00:48:33.000 Yes.

00:48:35.000 Is that my webmaster, and I just talked to the black box voting people and my webmaster did work with her site and she just told me five minutes before your show when I was on the cell phone, which your producer can confirm the conversation, we were talking back and forth, and she told me that she was locked out of her website by the same individual.

00:48:58.000 Well, let me just say this.

00:48:59.000 It's funny because I've interviewed Bev Harris about 20 times.

00:49:04.000 And a year, two years ago, this went on for a year, she said, never talk about it on air, but yes, this has happened.

00:49:10.000 And then...

00:49:14.000 The point is I was warned that there was a possible infiltration situation going on by intelligent sources and so I decided to move my site.

00:49:27.000 That warning came That came after some of my problems started.

00:49:32.000 I think I started having trouble getting documents, you know, some PDF files and things that I don't have the capability of doing because I don't have the machinery and so forth.

00:49:39.000 Well, the point is I tried to post this story, the indictment story, onto my website through my normal procedures of using my web posting editor and I was locked out of it.

00:49:50.000 And I remember Beverly saying this thing, she was locked out of her story.

00:49:53.000 And I said, oh man, what am I going to do?

00:49:55.000 I want to report this.

00:49:56.000 So what I did The only thing that was open was my forums, because there was all the crazies, you know, that are posting, and all kinds of people, great patriots, but also the negative ones, the ones that come out of the woodwork that they put on all of our sites.

00:50:11.000 Well, what happened was, I decided to log in as Joe Public, and I posted that story on my own forums, captured the URL, and sent that URL out.

00:50:20.000 Okay, just stay there, Tom, and for those that For those that are just joining us, we're talking to Tom Plotka.

00:50:27.000 And I'm sure that's all just a coincidence with the webmaster.

00:50:30.000 I'm sure they're doing a great job.

00:50:31.000 We'll be right back with Bird Hour.

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00:50:41.000 877-376-45 big brother mainstream media Government cover-ups.

00:50:56.000 You want answers?

00:50:57.000 Well, so does he.

00:50:59.000 He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:51:07.000 Alright, folks, we're talking to Tom Flocko at TomFlocko.com.

00:51:12.000 Sites up.

00:51:13.000 They will get in there and get his info up to you.

00:51:16.000 Investigative journalists just... When you get into his spoken dagger stuff, it gets pretty confusing, but...

00:51:22.000 I know this.

00:51:22.000 There's crooks and criminals all around every modern president.

00:51:26.000 There are a lot of criminal investigations.

00:51:29.000 We know that's going on.

00:51:31.000 There is a criminal investigation of the Valerie Plame situation.

00:51:34.000 That's been in the news.

00:51:36.000 How deep does it go?

00:51:37.000 I still don't know.

00:51:39.000 Tom Flacco, I want to take a few calls here, but in closing before we do this, I mean, how long until we find out what the truth is?

00:51:47.000 Well, I was asking that myself, and if there's going to be any Things, you know, bombs drop literally, figuratively, whatever.

00:51:56.000 I've heard that the grand jury expires, at least the current one that's up there, one of the terms of one of them expires around October the 28th, sometime in October.

00:52:07.000 But then again, you see, if this business is true about other grand juries, if there are others, you know, they all have staggered terms, I would think.

00:52:16.000 They're not going to have them all because they need them at different times, you know.

00:52:19.000 One group does one subject, one group does another subject, you know.

00:52:22.000 But I've heard sometime in mid to late October this thing runs out.

00:52:26.000 So we're talking now, it's pushing into September, so you've got maybe about 30 to Forty-five days left, and I think they're going to be finishing up.

00:52:35.000 But again, you go to congressmen and senators and they won't touch it, but then why would a U.S.

00:52:40.000 attorney do all this?

00:52:43.000 Because he's doing his job.

00:52:44.000 His job is to subpoena, investigate, and prosecute criminal acts.

00:52:52.000 Sometimes criminal acts involve individuals at a very high level of government.

00:52:58.000 Not very often.

00:52:59.000 And also, and here's another little key, remember about the document, Time reporter Matt Cooper said that when he, he said in his report, I remember reading this, he said that when I went to the grand jury to testify, I was impressed by the jurors.

00:53:15.000 He said that I was in there for two and a half hours and the majority of the time, the majority of the time I spent answering questions from the jurors.

00:53:25.000 He said that they were mostly women, and they were mostly African-American women. 0.90

00:53:30.000 So you've talked to people that were even in there?

00:53:32.000 No, I have not.

00:53:33.000 I just read what Matthew Cooper, Time reporter, reported.

00:53:37.000 He said, when he was there in front of the Grand Jury, that the... And that's the Grand Jury investigating Valerie Plain?

00:53:46.000 It had to be, because that's what they were talking about.

00:53:50.000 Let's take one call from Melissa in Florida.

00:53:53.000 Melissa, go ahead.

00:53:55.000 Hi, thank you so much, Alex.

00:53:57.000 I really appreciate you taking my call, and I appreciate you opening my eyes to the, you know, a new world order and everything.

00:54:02.000 I mean, I'm 21 years old, and I'm just coming across all this stuff for the past eight months, and I don't think I've left now since I've opened the first web page.

00:54:10.000 What I'm calling about, and one, I've been listening, and I just think it's ridiculous that it really takes this much, like, digging for people to open their eyes to the 9-11 situation.

00:54:21.000 It's unreal that they can't see what's going on.

00:54:25.000 It just makes me really sad, and I hope everybody listening is, you know, trying to help their friends open their eyes, because I know I do every day.

00:54:32.000 I try to get everybody in my family involved.

00:54:34.000 But, um, a lot of really interesting things I needed to ask you about.

00:54:38.000 I've read lately that they're putting fluoride in the water system in my county, which is really weird to me.

00:54:44.000 They're like adding it, and everybody's all excited about it, and I don't get it, and I don't like it.

00:54:49.000 Well, I mean, you can get the letter that hundreds of EPA scientists just sent to the EPA saying it's deadly poison, remove it.

00:54:55.000 I mean, it's unreal.

00:54:57.000 These people are like, oh good, my children are going to have... You know what?

00:54:57.000 It's unreal.

00:54:59.000 I'll tell you what I'm going to do.

00:55:00.000 I'm going to put you on hold, Melissa, and I'm going to finish up with you after the break.

00:55:04.000 I'm going to say bye to Tom Floggo right now.

00:55:05.000 He's got to go.

00:55:06.000 TomFloggo.com.

00:55:07.000 Tom, I appreciate you following up these reports, and I know you'll get to the bottom of it.

00:55:12.000 And I appreciate your courage in, you know, on reporting on this to get to the bottom of it.

00:55:16.000 So take care, my friend.

00:55:17.000 Thank you for the job you're doing and for the opportunity.

00:55:19.000 I appreciate it.

00:55:20.000 I know it's been tiring for you, and we can look for some new reports from you in the next few days?

00:55:25.000 Well, I don't know about a few days, but, you know, I'm always looking in for, you know, the next thing I'm working about, you know, that's for sure.

00:55:32.000 But you're going to be staying on this case?

00:55:35.000 Oh, yeah, we're working with this issue.

00:55:38.000 Yeah, the issue surrounding the grand jury, I think, you know, whatever I Okay.

00:55:42.000 All right, thanks, Don.

00:55:43.000 Take care, bye.

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00:58:38.000 eight five sixty six twenty five one more time that eight six six eight eight five sixty six twenty five he's the t-rex of political talk alex jones on the gcn radio network going on right now you know i almost always stick to what i can prove Hey, they were having a drill at the exact same time at the exact same locations.

00:59:08.000 It's impossible on the 7-7 bombings.

00:59:11.000 This is a cover story for the government op.

00:59:14.000 And then lo and behold, the reporters and the witnesses and the police say there were bombs under the trains and holes blown up through it, but they won't let you take photos and some press that got photos had their cameras taken.

00:59:28.000 And then it comes out that the supposed mass bomber in control of the two squads, you know, it turns out he's MI6 protected in the U.S.

00:59:37.000 in 99, protected there right now.

00:59:40.000 Even Fox News has to admit, we don't know why the British are protecting this individual.

00:59:47.000 And that's because it had already come out in the press.

00:59:50.000 They had to report on it and explain it away.

00:59:55.000 And, you know, if we can prove, you know, the preponderance of the evidence points towards government inside job, just on the evidence, then you've got the motive, which is on the government side, that is the criminal elements of the government.

01:00:08.000 With something like 9-11, I mean, it's an ocean of evidence, an ocean of endless, an orgy of evidence, a total New World Order operation. 0.61

01:00:18.000 I mean, it takes three films and two books to cover all the evidence.

01:00:21.000 You know, I've made three films on the subject, written a book, published a book, carry a bunch of other great videos on the subject at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:32.000 You know, we're there exposing it.

01:00:35.000 And we're going to continue to.

01:00:36.000 But when you get into stuff like this Brigadier General Commanding General, number four in the Army, Kevin P. Burns, and I get a call about him a month ago, or three weeks ago, a month ago I get a call about there's going to be a drill, and it's going to be going on on the east coast of this town, and you've got to watch it really closely.

01:00:59.000 This is from a good source.

01:01:03.000 I didn't talk about it.

01:01:04.000 I was like, well, I don't know what to say about that.

01:01:06.000 I mean, I mentioned the drill, and I said we've been told to watch this, but I didn't put two and two together that I'd already been warned by somebody else.

01:01:13.000 Watch this General Kevin P. Burns.

01:01:18.000 And then the story with Kevin P. Burns doesn't fit.

01:01:21.000 He's going to retire in a couple of months.

01:01:24.000 He's been in a divorce for six months.

01:01:27.000 His lawyer puts out a letter when he gets canned unceremoniously.

01:01:30.000 Well, okay, he was canned for an extramarital thing, but he's in a divorce and the woman's not in the military.

01:01:38.000 Well, folks, they'd turn a blind eye to that.

01:01:40.000 I mean, they'd turn a blind eye to four-star generals having mistresses. 0.96

01:01:44.000 They'd turn a blind eye to them doing basically whatever they want, folks.

01:01:47.000 I mean, a senior four-star general, out of eleven four-star generals in the Army, he was number three.

01:01:55.000 And above that, there's the Army's seat on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:01:58.000 I mean, so, as the echelon of power goes, that's about as high as it gets.

01:02:02.000 You know, his boss, Shoemaker, just above him.

01:02:07.000 So, That doesn't fit!

01:02:09.000 And just suddenly, you're gone!

01:02:13.000 You're gone!

01:02:15.000 And then I, you know, we have Greg Zemensky who does a lot of good reports.

01:02:20.000 Uh, you know, pretty accurate.

01:02:22.000 Uh, coming out and, uh, you know, the body of his work is good.

01:02:27.000 I mean, it's good information.

01:02:29.000 He comes out and says his sources in the Pentagon are saying that, um, that this guy was planning some type of coup.

01:02:36.000 Well, then my sources say, no, it was to leak information to burn the administration.

01:02:41.000 Well, we've had a bunch of generals do that.

01:02:43.000 We've had a bunch of former generals do that.

01:02:45.000 We've had people inside.

01:02:47.000 We've had ambassadors do that.

01:02:49.000 We've had a bunch of people go public, so that fits the M.O.

01:02:55.000 And what would spur him to do that?

01:02:57.000 Was he learning of some new operation?

01:03:00.000 Or had he learned of a previous operation?

01:03:02.000 And then we get speculation that, well, Was, you know, was this nuke drill going to go live?

01:03:09.000 The nuke drill that's going on right now that I've been warned about.

01:03:17.000 So we have all of this swirling around and that type of story is the same type of story that we have, you know, with Tom Flacco and this grand jury up there that they reported is investigating the plane incident, which that would be criminal.

01:03:37.000 Uh, blowing, you know, burning her, blowing her cover. 1.00

01:03:40.000 That's, that much I know is admitted.

01:03:43.000 And then it's an evil stretch to ask if there's an indictment.

01:03:47.000 I mean, there may not be indictments.

01:03:49.000 Tom may have been fed this info.

01:03:51.000 The question is, why would they do that?

01:03:54.000 But we have to talk about it a little bit.

01:03:57.000 I mean, when I first heard about this last week, I actually heard about it before that from other sources, but then I kind of ignored it.

01:04:05.000 Tom put an article out, it got really big, one of the biggest stories on the web, and I called Tom last Thursday, he couldn't come on, and then he called today and said I'll come on, so we had Tom on.

01:04:18.000 So I don't know if it's true.

01:04:20.000 I think Tom's a good guy.

01:04:22.000 But I think he's definitely got some sources.

01:04:25.000 But I don't know if those sources are good.

01:04:29.000 I mean, I'm sure they're wonderful people, too.

01:04:34.000 Frankly, I'm not a big fan of Stu Webb, I'll be honest with you.

01:04:37.000 But, you know, Tom says his documents check out.

01:04:41.000 But, this is what Cloak & Dagger does.

01:04:48.000 This is the fog they want where you don't know.

01:04:50.000 I mean, look, I'm not the one saying we're going to get hit by an A-bomb, or a hydrogen bomb, or a dirty bomb.

01:04:58.000 I mean, Dick Cheney says it over and over again. 0.61

01:05:01.000 Chertoff's running around saying it.

01:05:03.000 The Nightly News has special reports on it.

01:05:05.000 Bin Laden's Nagasaki. 0.88

01:05:07.000 Bin Laden's Revenge.

01:05:08.000 I mean, I've got a huge section on the website of mainstream news articles.

01:05:12.000 I mean, they tell U.S.

01:05:13.000 News & World Report before the election, two months before, we will be hit by a nuclear weapon.

01:05:19.000 The White House, said senior advisor in the White House, i.e.

01:05:22.000 Karl Rove, told U.S.

01:05:24.000 News & World Report, we are going to be nuked by the election.

01:05:28.000 Well, I got on there and said, I don't believe that's gonna happen.

01:05:30.000 I think it'll happen in the next year if it does.

01:05:33.000 But, there's no, oh, look at the government.

01:05:36.000 They're totally uncredible.

01:05:37.000 They're fear-mongering.

01:05:39.000 No, they're saying there's going to be a nuclear attack.

01:05:42.000 Look, we just take it serious when the President, the Vice President's minions, and the Vice President are running around saying it.

01:05:48.000 So, we have to pay attention when then it comes out that, you know, are they going to have an exercise go live?

01:05:55.000 Or, watch this General, and then he gets fired, and then he's over the base, where we hear they're going to have this test.

01:06:02.000 Well, where they admit they're having a drill, but, you know, is it?

01:06:05.000 So, welcome to my brain.

01:06:13.000 And in the final equation, it just creates hysteria.

01:06:16.000 It creates anxiety.

01:06:18.000 It creates fear.

01:06:20.000 It creates apprehension.

01:06:23.000 We don't know what's true.

01:06:26.000 We don't know what to say.

01:06:29.000 You want us to report on it, and you say, well, why aren't you reporting on it?

01:06:34.000 So I call my webmaster up, and I say, post the The FWACO story and the responses to it.

01:06:41.000 Well, is it real?

01:06:42.000 Well, I don't know.

01:06:43.000 FWACO seems like a good guy.

01:06:46.000 We know there's a grand jury and panel investigating the leak.

01:06:51.000 We don't know.

01:06:52.000 We'll say we don't know and you decide.

01:06:56.000 Because, I mean, I deal in numbers.

01:07:00.000 I mean, there are rocket attacks.

01:07:02.000 There are hundreds of deaths.

01:07:03.000 There are car bombs going off in Texas and no one even knows about that.

01:07:08.000 Okay.

01:07:09.000 I mean, I got a CBS and AP at Brownsville, Dallas Morning News, but still no one I talk to knows about it, because it's all piecemeal and reported very dryly.

01:07:20.000 So, you know, if that can be going on, you know, are there indictments?

01:07:23.000 I don't know.

01:07:25.000 But I deal with, you know, on page 31 of the Free Trade Area of the Americas Agreement, you know, it says Pan-American Union and merging our laws with that of the Pan-American Union and the EU.

01:07:40.000 I mean, that's global government.

01:07:41.000 I know the CFR put out a report calling for the end of America.

01:07:46.000 I know Lou Dobbs decried it.

01:07:48.000 I mean, he had the same analysis I did.

01:07:50.000 It sounds crazy, but it's happening.

01:07:52.000 I know they passed a law for forced psychological testing and forced drugging.

01:07:56.000 Now they're trying to implement.

01:07:58.000 I know that Bush called for total amnesty.

01:08:00.000 And then said he didn't.

01:08:01.000 Said that amnesty wasn't amnesty.

01:08:04.000 I know that Rumsfeld really got up and said, I never said they had WMDs when he said it hundreds of times.

01:08:12.000 So now we live in this world where the reason everything is so over the top is they're over the top.

01:08:20.000 I mean the globalists are just out of control right now.

01:08:24.000 But I don't know.

01:08:24.000 I think I'm just going to predominantly focus on what I can document.

01:08:29.000 Because it seems like the things that can't be documented are the things that people want to hear and things that people want to go crazy over.

01:08:40.000 So, I don't know.

01:08:41.000 If something can't be proven one way or the other, don't expect me to talk about it.

01:08:46.000 That's always been my rule and it becomes a phenomenon.

01:08:49.000 I've got to talk about it.

01:08:50.000 It's like I've got to talk about these latest fear-mongering reports.

01:08:52.000 Officials warn that Bin Laden is going to attack us around 9-11.

01:08:57.000 That's the New York Times.

01:08:58.000 More rumors, more fear-mongering.

01:09:00.000 What Tom Flacco is saying is a hundred times more credible with more evidence than what they're saying.

01:09:05.000 Just because the CIA says that their assets are going to do something.

01:09:09.000 So, you know, when the administration constantly lives in wah-wah land, this stuff's going to happen.

01:09:18.000 Let's go to Malta and Denmark, then Jeff, Mark, and Christie and others.

01:09:23.000 Go ahead, Malta. 0.98

01:09:28.000 He's gone.

01:09:29.000 Let's go to the next person.

01:09:30.000 Let's talk to Jeff and Mass.

01:09:31.000 Jeff, you're on the air.

01:09:32.000 Go ahead, Jeff.

01:09:34.000 Yes.

01:09:34.000 Now, as far as September the 11th is concerned, my big concern is if we have another September the 11th, what do you think would happen to America if we had a September the 11th?

01:09:45.000 Do you think we would be completely doomed?

01:09:49.000 The government is going to announce itself as absolute God, in the name of keeping us safe, And they're going to even get more criminal, which is why the government won't carry out an attack.

01:10:00.000 They don't want total control and power.

01:10:02.000 They're not behind any of it.

01:10:04.000 Let's just give all our rights up to them. 1.00

01:10:06.000 But if they know we're not going to put up with it, and we just say no, then they may not even carry out more attacks.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, that's true, because I'll tell you what, as a cynic, I would give them the hairy eyeball if they pulled something, that's for sure.

01:10:17.000 For those who don't know, what's the hairy eyeball mean?

01:10:23.000 It means, you know, put them under investigation.

01:10:27.000 In other words, investigate it.

01:10:29.000 Do research on it.

01:10:31.000 Well, I think the 7-7... I don't think I know.

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01:14:45.000 Oh, just shifting gears back to what Melissa in Florida had asked about.

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01:15:07.000 Because the media tells them it's good.

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01:15:36.000 There's a big difference between your body needing a little bit of sodium fluoride and the other, you know, many many different types of fluoride.

01:15:44.000 I mean, it's a deadly poison. 0.99

01:15:47.000 It's ridiculous, folks. 0.99

01:15:49.000 It's so bad for you. 0.98

01:15:50.000 And they put it in toothpaste, They put it in a bunch of other studies.

01:15:54.000 It's horrible!

01:15:56.000 It's just... But they tell you it's good.

01:15:58.000 It's part of this mass hoax.

01:16:00.000 And people use it.

01:16:02.000 They just had literally hundreds of scientists and top EPA employees sign an open letter to the head of the EPA saying, get it out.

01:16:09.000 Look at all these studies.

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01:16:13.000 The top scientists are saying how deadly it is.

01:16:17.000 It's deadly poison, people!

01:16:22.000 I mean, one drop will kill you!

01:16:25.000 Well, let's go ahead and uh... They're like pickling your brains, folks. 1.00

01:16:32.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mark in Louisiana.

01:16:35.000 Mark, go ahead.

01:16:37.000 Hello?

01:16:38.000 Yes, Mark.

01:16:39.000 That's Las Vegas.

01:16:41.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:16:42.000 You're on the air.

01:16:42.000 Yeah, that's Las Vegas, not Louisiana.

01:16:45.000 Say it again.

01:16:46.000 Las Vegas.

01:16:47.000 Say it again.

01:16:48.000 I'm just, I'm having a joke with you.

01:16:50.000 Alright, yeah, I figured that out.

01:16:52.000 Alright, I noticed Bush, a couple days ago, he made a little stop in Chicago and I was going to ask Tom Flacco, he was on it, when I called, if there might have been a nexus between that and the proceedings going on there.

01:17:09.000 Kind of interesting too, he stopped in Chicago and I guess he was hanging out with his new We're not new, but I'm sure he's known him for quite some time, but his little buddy, his crime and partner, Mayor Richard Daley, I think what a good man Richard Daley is, and who I guess is also sort of involved in one of Patrick Fitzgerald's

01:17:32.000 other investigations uh... daily or by the way that's admitted that's an msnbc that daily is being investigated by this by this u.s.

01:17:41.000 attorney for organized crime now that that's a key point yeah no bush yeah he when he stopped in chicago he was giving a bunch of accolades to daily and how wonderful it is that chicago is going to be getting you know like uh... you know hundreds of millions of dollars for their transit system but uh... i thought that was kind of interesting also this story about uh...

01:18:02.000 There's illegal aliens that are working for the Border Patrol and then smuggling in other illegal aliens?

01:18:07.000 Well, I mean, the head of the Border Patrol is a Laurie Conquista.

01:18:11.000 And the Attorney General is a Laurie Conquista.

01:18:14.000 I was going to point out that there has got to be, and of course they were charging like two grand per person they were smuggling in, there's got to be some politicians involved in this operation because when I got out of the Marine Corps, I had applied to work for the Border Patrol and in order to even take the test for the Border Patrol, they actually told me that I need like a congressman or a senator to recommend me.

01:18:42.000 I mean, that's how Uh, that's how, you know, impossible it was to work there.

01:18:47.000 Well, that's illegal, but that's like mafia big city.

01:18:50.000 Talk about daily machine.

01:18:53.000 You don't get a job unless El Jefe says you get one.

01:18:56.000 Yeah, so I mean, there's no way this was an accident, but of course they're going to make it so.

01:19:00.000 Well, for those that don't know, we had the head of the Border Patrol Union on, okay, saying that they're infiltrating, they're taking over.

01:19:08.000 And it's been in mainstream news that they've ordered the Border Patrol to stand down.

01:19:13.000 They have X-ing where they're not allowed to stop illegal aliens in certain areas.

01:19:16.000 But then they're going to have a checkpoint searching you and your family.

01:19:19.000 And again, for only low-income cases that think they're taking over, why is the U.S.

01:19:23.000 government behind it?

01:19:24.000 They want to break America down too.

01:19:26.000 And you know, I haven't talked enough about that.

01:19:29.000 It came out in UPI and the Washington Times as well as the Associated Press on Monday.

01:19:35.000 And I just barely mentioned it because it's part of the course.

01:19:38.000 That senior Border Patrol agents on the border are actually Mexican citizens.

01:19:47.000 Yeah, I forgot that part.

01:19:49.000 Mexican citizens, Mark, and that they're coyotes. 1.00

01:19:53.000 Well, I mean, we've had mayors and people all over the country being caught being coyotes and nothing happens to them.

01:19:59.000 This is big business.

01:20:01.000 They're sucking off these poor immigrants who are good, hard-working people. 1.00

01:20:04.000 I'm not against them, folks. 0.84

01:20:05.000 But the point is, it's destroying our country.

01:20:08.000 The thing about this, by virtue of the capacity they work in, they're able to at the same time make money because Yeah, if you don't pay him the entrance fee, then they'll stop you.

01:20:19.000 But you gotta pay that, right?

01:20:20.000 Yeah, there's gotta be... Listen, I've been going across the border.

01:20:24.000 If you're a Mexican with a cowboy hat, you don't get searched. 0.99

01:20:28.000 You're a white guy, you might... Or a black guy, just get ready. 0.99

01:20:32.000 It's all part of freedom. 0.97

01:20:33.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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01:23:59.000 But I haven't seen the crime statistics in a couple of years.

01:24:06.000 But they're generally about the same.

01:24:08.000 Hmm.

01:24:11.000 But over 90%, some years as high as 95% of crimes go unsolved.

01:24:19.000 I mean, I've had cars stolen twice, apartments broken into before.

01:24:25.000 And, uh, cars broken into actually quite a bit, uh, where I'd call the police.

01:24:31.000 And the cops would show up and go, hey, you're in a private apartment complex, but like, there's no gate?

01:24:36.000 Aren't you gonna do a report?

01:24:37.000 No?

01:24:37.000 But they sure got time to pull me over, buddy.

01:24:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:44.000 It's just about raising money.

01:24:47.000 And that's the system.

01:24:47.000 We gotta change that.

01:24:49.000 You're like, Alex, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

01:24:54.000 The point I'm getting at is, is that if you kill a cop, it's over a 90% apprehension and conviction.

01:25:02.000 Over 90%.

01:25:04.000 So in 90 plus percent of the time, we don't get justice, but in 90 plus percent of the time, they get justice.

01:25:12.000 And that's wrong.

01:25:14.000 Of course, a lot of times somebody kills a cop, they're going to find somebody to pay.

01:25:19.000 And that's also been shown.

01:25:21.000 Some of the worst miscarriages of justice are just tying somebody!

01:25:25.000 And now, if you kick a police dog, you get more time in jail than murdering a human being.

01:25:30.000 And I've got a bunch of news reports on that.

01:25:31.000 People get 45 years for kicking a police dog, and the average is about, what, 7 years for homicide?

01:25:39.000 Manslaughter?

01:25:40.000 Even less?

01:25:42.000 But, uh, just something for you to think about out there.

01:25:45.000 But the reason I brought that up What got me thinking about just those statistics during the break was that, you know, good Border Patrol agents blew the whistle about these other agents that were Mexican citizens, and our government knew that.

01:25:59.000 That's who they recruit.

01:26:02.000 Not even Americans, folks. 0.98

01:26:03.000 I mean, twenty-something percent of our military in Iraq is foreigner.

01:26:07.000 And this is the new enforcement arm of the new world order, folks.

01:26:10.000 It's real simple.

01:26:11.000 And they blew the whistle.

01:26:14.000 Well, you know how many times they had to blow the whistle for that to happen?

01:26:17.000 And they had to get that out in the press for something to happen and now nothing may even happen because the investigation has been widened and they'll have an investigation for two or three years and then nobody ever gets in trouble.

01:26:30.000 We've had fraud investigations here in the city where people are caught red-handed.

01:26:34.000 It's admitted they stole.

01:26:38.000 District Attorney says, I'm not going to do anything.

01:26:41.000 County Attorney, I'm not doing nothing.

01:26:45.000 So basically they'll have an investigation, you know, you come to them, we'll get right on this.

01:26:49.000 This is very serious.

01:26:51.000 Why, there's an investigation.

01:26:54.000 If you're a politician who's in favor, you'd basically have to cut a two-year-old child in front of a hundred news cameras, marinate them in a wine sauce, and cook them on a spit to maybe get in trouble.

01:27:11.000 And when you've got corruption that bad, Now, if you're a politician that isn't playing ball in the New World Order, you cheat on your wife, it's going to be in the newspaper.

01:27:22.000 Ian, you've got a tail.

01:27:24.000 You're being followed.

01:27:26.000 But, no, I mean, I'm serious.

01:27:28.000 I think Bush could barb- I shouldn't juggle.

01:27:30.000 He'll probably start doing it.

01:27:31.000 He could probably barbecue small children on a spit on the White House lawn and it would be called Christian. 1.00

01:27:37.000 Oh, it's of the Lord. 0.99

01:27:38.000 I mean, it's almost that ridiculous. 0.88

01:27:44.000 Let's move quickly through these calls.

01:27:46.000 Let's go to Christina and then we'll go to Mike and many, many others that are patiently holding.

01:27:58.000 Christina, you're on the air.

01:27:59.000 Welcome.

01:28:00.000 Greetings from KCXL land, Alex.

01:28:03.000 That's right.

01:28:04.000 One of our oldest and best affiliates.

01:28:06.000 That's right.

01:28:07.000 Kansas City.

01:28:08.000 Right.

01:28:08.000 I've been listening to you for years.

01:28:10.000 Listen, we read at our recent Concerned Citizens Tom Flacco's report especially we were interested and read the financing 9-11 attacks portion which talks a lot about Stewart Webb's documentation and I agree with you there's a war on for our mind we are not sure who's who or what's what some of the time.

01:28:34.000 Stewart Webb has been to many of our meetings and we are unsure about him.

01:28:42.000 Tells us that he's risked his life to bring a lot of these documentations and I do believe and haven't recently spoken with him that there is a grand jury and that these reports because Tom Flacco and Sherman Skulnick and others are bringing this I tend to agree with Stuart Webb on some of these things and so I just wanted to report that to you.

01:29:12.000 It's very confusing.

01:29:14.000 It's very confusing to me.

01:29:16.000 That's what intelligence operations are supposed to do.

01:29:18.000 They're supposed to confuse you.

01:29:19.000 The old prayer they used to say in the British Navy when they were having war with people was, you know, may we see clearly and may they be confused.

01:29:27.000 Amen.

01:29:28.000 There's wisdom in the multitude of counselors is what the Bible says.

01:29:32.000 And I've been speaking to many people, Wolfgang, Anna Conn, Clay Douglas and others.

01:29:38.000 Ah, there's a... Well, different ones.

01:29:40.000 True, true Jim.

01:29:42.000 Alex, I don't know, I don't know.

01:29:46.000 Anyway... I'm just laughing, I'm having a little fun here.

01:29:48.000 The Concerned Citizens of the Heartland are a great group and they've been together for ten years and... Well, I'm sure your group is great.

01:29:55.000 Anyway, we are...

01:29:58.000 I just want to tell you, we are in a little bit of confusion also as to what is really going on.

01:30:03.000 Well, you know what I'd encourage you to do?

01:30:05.000 I would encourage you, what I'm going to do is focus on the masses of stuff we can prove.

01:30:11.000 And whenever you're not sure about something, still keep an eye on it, but these soap opera type things are almost designed to get us all balled up in them.

01:30:22.000 Which I'm beginning to get, you know, caught in.

01:30:24.000 And, you know, while we should keep, you know, a spoon in the broth of this pot, we should also kind of keep some of the other stuff cooking.

01:30:32.000 I mean, there's just so much out there, and I appreciate your call.

01:30:35.000 Good to hear from you.

01:30:36.000 Yeah, no, I mean, that's just, you know, what I said about that individual earlier, I just said I'm not too sure.

01:30:43.000 That's all I can really put it lightly for you.

01:30:47.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Arizona.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

01:30:51.000 Mike, you're the guy called last week and asked for Tom Flacco to be on the show.

01:30:55.000 Did I?

01:30:56.000 I believe that was you, yes.

01:30:57.000 Well, that was an interesting segment, to be sure.

01:31:02.000 Didn't you call last week and ask to have him on?

01:31:04.000 I probably did.

01:31:05.000 Yeah, what's on your mind?

01:31:07.000 I just wonder, have you been able to reach or have you tried to reach General Burns?

01:31:11.000 Yeah, his number's not listed.

01:31:13.000 I've called three Kevin Peay Burnses and none of them are him.

01:31:17.000 Yeah, because I suspect that if our suspicions are right, this man needs a lifeline thrown to him.

01:31:22.000 He needs as much light on him as possible.

01:31:25.000 What did you think about the Flacco interview?

01:31:30.000 Like you, I think it's too soon to get too Yeah, we've got people that are condemning it out of hand saying it's not true, and then people that are saying it's true.

01:31:45.000 There is a criminal grand jury, it is being investigated.

01:31:47.000 This same guy is investigating daily for quote, organized crime.

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