Alex Jones Show - 20050818_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Well, very important broadcast lined up for you on this 18th of August, 2005, first day edition.

00:00:37.000 The filmmaker, Tito Howard, he made the film, Loss of Liberty, will be joining us with the hero, Dr. Richard Kiefer.

00:00:48.000 He saved the lives of, what, 43 people.

00:00:51.000 He had his intestines tied into his body.

00:00:56.000 Of course, he got the Congressional Medal of Honor.

00:00:58.000 Had his intestines tied into his body with his life jacket for a day and treated, again, dozens and dozens of people and saved the lives of 40-plus.

00:01:14.000 Folks, that's pretty manly.

00:01:16.000 I don't think I could be giving medical treatment with burns all over my body and my intestines hanging out because he was hit by shrapnel and had his guts blown open, but he did tie his intestines in and literally his guts were spilled all over the deck.

00:01:31.000 So we'll be talking to this gentleman, and of course it's government-sponsored terror.

00:01:37.000 I've talked to the admirals who were on the radio phone and LBJ came on and said, I want that GD ship going to the bottom.

00:01:51.000 I want that ship to go to the bottom.

00:01:57.000 They wanted to blame it on good old Egypt. 0.98

00:02:02.000 And there's a lot of sickos out there that worship this government.

00:02:05.000 They don't know that patriotism is about loving your country, where you live, and the Bill of Rights and Constitution. 0.89

00:02:11.000 Patriotism is not, and never has been, worshipping your dictator.

00:02:16.000 Worshipping your plutocrats.

00:02:18.000 And I've heard them go, oh, so what if we attack that?

00:02:22.000 War is war.

00:02:23.000 You gotta break eggs to get them brewskis. 1.00

00:02:27.000 Well, then you go out and, uh, you know, kill yourself! 0.98

00:02:31.000 I'm not saying do that. 1.00

00:02:31.000 I mean, you might actually do it. 1.00

00:02:33.000 Okay?

00:02:34.000 You might say, I worship government!

00:02:35.000 You know, and saw your own head off.

00:02:37.000 I mean, you people are just out of your gourd, so I shouldn't joke around with you.

00:02:43.000 But, uh, Dr. Richard Kiefer will be joining us along with Tito Howard.

00:02:48.000 We'll go back to 1967 and cover that for an hour.

00:02:52.000 And then also, Greg Zeminsky and Janet Parker, close informant and friend of former FBI agent John O'Neill, killed on 9-11, tells how FBI higher-ups shut him down, letting 9-11 quote, happen.

00:03:07.000 And O'Neill, who was deputy director, quit two months before, and he told British News, he said, they're going to allow an attack on the World Trade Center as a pretext to get Afghan oil.

00:03:18.000 That's what he'd been told.

00:03:20.000 Well, it was more than that, Mr. O'Neill.

00:03:22.000 You saw part of it, but not all of it.

00:03:25.000 It isn't that our government let Al-Qaeda attack us.

00:03:29.000 Criminal elements of our government are Al-Qaeda.

00:03:33.000 Is Al-Qaeda.

00:03:34.000 Al-M-I-6-a. 1.00

00:03:37.000 Al-C-I-8-a. 1.00

00:03:39.000 Al-Defense Intelligence-a.

00:03:43.000 Al-Moussada.

00:03:46.000 So this is what we're facing and we'll get into this coming up in this third hour with Greg Zemensky and of course Janet Parker.

00:03:59.000 We'll also talk to Greg a little bit about the Brigadier General Kevin P. Burns being sacked last week and the attack drills being pushed back to today from yesterday.

00:04:12.000 And it is Thursday, the 18th day of August 2005.

00:04:16.000 Masses of news when we get back.

00:04:19.000 Right now, China sets up anti-terror squads as riots spread.

00:04:26.000 Ooh, and I have that newscast from last week up in Virginia.

00:04:31.000 Where they go, we're training to assist the public and fight terror.

00:04:34.000 They do that by practicing to take your firearms and put you in camps.

00:04:39.000 Just openly on television and practice dealing with rioters.

00:04:43.000 Well, so is China. 0.92

00:04:44.000 See, everybody's working on the same page.

00:04:47.000 Same sheet of music.

00:04:49.000 Totally staged.

00:04:51.000 So, uh, we'll, uh, talk about this as well when we get back.

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00:08:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 Thank you.

00:08:17.000 Alright, we will talk to one of the most highly decorated men in naval history, Dr. Richard Kieffer, who literally had his intestines all over the All over the Conning Tower floor, and tied them in, tied his intestines that were literally dragging around the ground, this is Eyewitness Reports, with a life jacket, and then treated the survivors, saving the lives of over 40 people.

00:08:46.000 When the U.S.

00:08:47.000 government in Israel cornered the ship and attacked it for a day, trying to sink it so they could blame it on Egypt and the Soviets and start World War III.

00:08:57.000 And that's all come out, it's all public, we've had top admirals on, we've had the The Judge Advocate General's on from the Navy.

00:09:04.000 We've had the people who were in the situation where I'm on the carrier with LBJ going, you listen to me!

00:09:10.000 That GD ship, I want it going to the bottom! 1.00

00:09:14.000 You got me?

00:09:15.000 This is a direct order from your President!

00:09:17.000 You turn those fighters back!

00:09:19.000 No assistance!

00:09:21.000 That's a direct order!

00:09:23.000 No assistance!

00:09:26.000 That's your loving government!

00:09:28.000 They just pick a ship, park it, attack it, And the men would not abandon stations, lock down the Vulcans. 1.00

00:09:35.000 It had, what, 800 and something rocket holes in it.

00:09:38.000 Giant white phosphorus bombs, over a dozen dropped on its deck.

00:09:42.000 A giant torpedo hit it broadside, blew a giant 30-foot hole through it.

00:09:47.000 There's photos of it.

00:09:49.000 Strafed it for hours.

00:09:51.000 Torpedo boats, jets, fighter bombers.

00:09:53.000 And then came the Israeli Special Forces troops on board their helicopters to kill them Kill them a day into the attack and from inside sources we've got out of Israel, the Israeli commandos just refused. 0.83

00:10:09.000 It was just so dastardly, they wouldn't do it.

00:10:12.000 And an Israeli pilot's gone public, who was there, they saw the giant American flag, they knew it was happening, he was ordered three times to start attacking the ship, he's gone public.

00:10:22.000 But imagine, I mean, their own commandos finally just watching, I mean, first they strafed the lifeboats with people in them, and that all happened.

00:10:29.000 It went on and on for Hour after hour after hour.

00:10:32.000 And then the special forces helicopters came out with commandos to kill them and blow the ship and sink it.

00:10:37.000 So they could blame it on their enemies.

00:10:40.000 But that didn't... They just wouldn't do it.

00:10:42.000 I guess having to look at them up close and seeing those bleeding, dying men, their commandos just refused.

00:10:50.000 I guess they didn't think they were cattle.

00:10:53.000 I guess they thought they were human beings, which they were.

00:10:54.000 I mean, what have Americans ever done to Israel?

00:10:58.000 But again, Our own government.

00:11:00.000 I've interviewed the multiple.

00:11:04.000 What have I had, like, five admirals on?

00:11:05.000 I mean, I've had the people on who got the call from LBJ, folks.

00:11:10.000 I want that ship going to the bottom! 0.85

00:11:14.000 Minus the blasphemous comment.

00:11:17.000 I want that GD ship on the bottom! 0.99

00:11:23.000 Do you understand that order?

00:11:27.000 So that's your loving government.

00:11:31.000 But if you're patriotic, you will support the President and not the troops. 1.00

00:11:35.000 You will say, good, kill the troops. 1.00

00:11:38.000 Kill them. 1.00

00:11:39.000 Test chemical and biologicals on them. 1.00

00:11:41.000 Let them breathe, do you. 1.00

00:11:43.000 Kill them! 1.00

00:11:44.000 Kill them! 1.00

00:11:46.000 They are owned by the government. 1.00

00:11:48.000 We worship the government.

00:11:49.000 Of course, that's not real patriotism.

00:11:52.000 That is an abomination.

00:11:54.000 That is a twisting.

00:11:55.000 That is some nightmare dimension of patriotism. 0.88

00:12:00.000 Patriotism is standing up against tyranny, standing up against evil governments, standing up against corrupt liars.

00:12:07.000 And look at LBJ at the end of his life.

00:12:09.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars he got in his cut from Brown and Root and Halliburton and dredging the, dredging the bay there.

00:12:17.000 But all the money he'd made going from being a poor boy to being almost a billionaire, in today's money he would be a billionaire, and he was just a sad old man against the war who grew his hair out long and would sit there and cry at the podium at the ranch apologizing.

00:12:33.000 All of it meant nothing!

00:12:34.000 The devil took you up on the mountain, LBJ, and offered it all to you, and at the end you were a not-need person crying, which means you may have gone to heaven! 0.53

00:12:45.000 I commend you!

00:12:46.000 You finally got your soul back at the end.

00:12:48.000 Maybe you never lost it entirely.

00:12:51.000 You were just competitive and out of control.

00:12:54.000 But that won't happen with George Bush and Dick Cheney, folks.

00:12:56.000 I've really studied them.

00:12:58.000 That won't happen with Bill Clinton.

00:13:01.000 There's no turning it around like the thief, you know, up on the cross beside Christ.

00:13:08.000 There's no turning it around for them.

00:13:09.000 They've gone straight into the pit of hell, folks.

00:13:14.000 I want that ship going to the bottom! 0.85

00:13:21.000 And strangely enough, most of the Congressional Medal of Honor winners and people that were on that ship, who were given it all secretly, and told to shut up, kept their mouths shut, until books were written in the last few years bad-mouthing them.

00:13:33.000 Talking about how wonderful Israel was, and how Israel didn't do anything wrong, and how LBJ was good.

00:13:38.000 And they said, you know what?

00:13:40.000 That's it.

00:13:41.000 I took the call from LBJ saying, sink the ship.

00:13:44.000 Let it go down.

00:13:45.000 And we're going public.

00:13:48.000 You see, you always gotta have your hubris. 1.00

00:13:51.000 Gotta shoot your mouths off. 0.99

00:13:55.000 And let me just tell the cops and the special forces and all the bureaucrats listening, I mean, you think the government cares one red cent, one little iota of the criminal elements that control it about you, if they would take a ship, A prestigious surveillance ship, park it in international waters and attack it to blame it on the Russians and to blame it on the Egyptians. 0.99

00:14:19.000 If they do that to their best and brightest, and a lot of these guys were CIA and defense intelligence and naval intelligence on that ship.

00:14:28.000 It was a spy ship.

00:14:29.000 They would take their best and brightest and just sit there and blast it I don't know, what was the... One attack went on for three hours, next attack two hours, three, four more hours more, then strafing lifeboats.

00:14:45.000 I mean, God kept that ship floating, folks.

00:14:47.000 No ship was ever... It's the most highly decorated ship in U.S.

00:14:49.000 history.

00:14:50.000 And some have looked at other annals in world history.

00:14:53.000 No British man of war ever took this much flack.

00:14:56.000 This many attacks, this many... I mean, just... Giant cannon holes from stem to stern.

00:15:03.000 Alright, I got a bunch of news, and I'm already getting into the USS Liberty, but...

00:15:08.000 This is what governments do!

00:15:12.000 Israel will blow up its own buildings, kill its own citizens, and then blame it on people to keep the war going. 0.99

00:15:19.000 I'm not saying there aren't real Muslim extremists carrying out bombings, and they're despicable as well. 0.97

00:15:24.000 You know, I knew about this, I'd read about it in Haratz and a few other big papers in Israel, but it's now come out to full harm. 0.88

00:15:31.000 One hundred thousand Jewish children 100,000 Jewish children.

00:15:42.000 I did some research on this late last night.

00:15:44.000 It just touched my heart.

00:15:47.000 The U.S.

00:15:47.000 government paid the Israeli government to take 100,000 children over 10 years.

00:15:53.000 And they would tell their parents at school, oh, it's a field trip to the doctor's office just to check for ringworm.

00:16:00.000 You know, fungus that grows in rings and makes your hair fall out.

00:16:04.000 And they would take the little children, little girls, little boys, and they would give them 35,000 safe level of radiation to the head.

00:16:11.000 And many of them would die that night, die the next day.

00:16:14.000 It just didn't matter.

00:16:15.000 The government kept it quiet.

00:16:18.000 Most of them would die within five years. 0.99

00:16:19.000 A few are still alive from the mid-1950s, but they're totally, you know, basically retarded. 1.00

00:16:27.000 And there's even been an Israeli TV special.

00:16:30.000 I want to get Barry Hamish on to talk about it.

00:16:34.000 And it's even on Israeli television.

00:16:36.000 Yeah, the government just took 100,000 children?

00:16:42.000 And the U.S.

00:16:42.000 government paid in adjusted dollars over a billion dollars to do this to 100,000 Jewish children.

00:16:54.000 And I'm anti-Semitic because I'm against killing Jewish children.

00:16:59.000 Because I'm against Hitler and the Zionists funding Hitler, which they admittedly did. 1.00

00:17:03.000 These people hate Jews.

00:17:06.000 Zionists, the people that quote claim that the current Zionists in control actually are controlled by the New World Order, ladies and gentlemen. 0.83

00:17:14.000 And our government had taken Nazi scientists at that time over to the U.S.

00:17:19.000 who were running the radiation experiments on our children in the tens of thousands.

00:17:24.000 And pregnant wives of G.I.s. 0.97

00:17:28.000 All mainstream news.

00:17:29.000 And those Nazis were doing the same stuff they did in Germany on a wider scale. 0.80

00:17:35.000 And then the very same policies.

00:17:37.000 A billion bucks of our tax money paid Israel to radiate 100,000 Jewish children. 0.97

00:17:50.000 So now the deaths of the people in Liberty kind of pales, doesn't it?

00:17:54.000 But it just shows the psychotic evil Nature of the New World Order.

00:18:04.000 And all these governments do it.

00:18:05.000 The Japanese government, all their people got pardoned that ran the chemical and biological test on our troops. 1.00

00:18:10.000 They got pardoned.

00:18:11.000 Our government hired them.

00:18:12.000 Took the data.

00:18:14.000 Oh, this is wonderful.

00:18:16.000 Oh, yes.

00:18:17.000 See, the globalists see us as total slaves. 0.54

00:18:20.000 They see us as worse than bugs. 1.00

00:18:23.000 They see us as useless feeders and eaters. 0.89

00:18:26.000 I mean, if you're doubting me, it's Jerusalem Post, Haraj.

00:18:29.000 Just calmly announcing, yeah, we radiated, and most of them died within the year.

00:18:33.000 We just radiated their brains.

00:18:35.000 Little kid, imagine taking a six-year-old, putting him under a radiator, totally healthy child, high-powered x-ray, 35,000 times the safe level, and actually frying their brains. 0.98

00:18:48.000 Frying Jewish children's brains. 1.00

00:18:51.000 Why would Jews do that to Jews? 1.00

00:18:54.000 Because these people aren't Jews, folks. 0.98

00:18:57.000 You notice the Jews they did it to were the Mediterranean, African, Spanish Jews who actually have the most blood of King David and Solomon and Moses in them. 0.93

00:19:10.000 It was the blonde haired, blue eyed, patch wearing, you know, strutting around, not Jewish, the people Christ talked about, the false Jews that were doing this. 0.99

00:19:20.000 And then you evil, evil white supremacists attack Jews and say they're evil and say they're bad, when these aren't even Jews that are doing this. 1.00

00:19:29.000 Evil, evil people. 1.00

00:19:32.000 Evil. 0.77

00:19:33.000 You're in bed with the ADL.

00:19:35.000 And see, that sounds so bizarre, people can't even figure that out.

00:19:38.000 That it's about counterfeits, it's about fakes.

00:19:41.000 It's about manipulation.

00:19:45.000 Well, I uh...

00:19:46.000 I stand up for little children everywhere, folks, and I just can't believe the crime of radiating 100,000.

00:19:51.000 But after all, we've aborted 50 million babies in this country, so is it hard to believe?

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00:24:10.000 I'm not going to talk about it anymore until later in the show when I actually get into the news articles, but just to have Israeli TV admit what we already knew about from documents, but to interview some of the survivors that they openly took a billion bucks to radiate 100,000 Jewish children, I mean, that makes me mad.

00:24:34.000 Just cold-bloodedly doing that.

00:24:37.000 And they've done it to children in America.

00:24:42.000 They've just done so many horrible things. 1.00

00:24:44.000 These are psychotic criminals that are in control. 0.97

00:24:50.000 And they did it to the USS Liberty. 0.99

00:24:51.000 They did it to their own people.

00:24:53.000 The Nazis did it. 0.92

00:24:54.000 The British have done it. 0.60

00:24:55.000 The Chinese have done it. 0.99

00:24:56.000 It's just evil people that just think of us as worthless. 0.99

00:25:02.000 I mean, I keep repeating that, but Stop being naive, folks.

00:25:06.000 Realize we're in a fight for humanity and society and everything's on the line.

00:25:11.000 I've got to take a few minutes out here just to say that in the last twelve years, eleven and a half years that I've been on air, I've really never asked for donations or support with this broadcast.

00:25:26.000 Because I would even call it pride.

00:25:29.000 I've seen so many other people take advantage of people's generosity.

00:25:33.000 That I've stayed away from.

00:25:35.000 And I have been sent donations, and we'll call people up and say, are you wealthy?

00:25:39.000 And if they say yes, we'll go, okay, well, we'll take it, thank you.

00:25:41.000 But I've had a few times where it's an old lady and, you know, she's given me, you know, money she can't afford. 0.94

00:25:47.000 I send it back.

00:25:48.000 We've done that many times.

00:25:49.000 And a lot of other patriots and people are shocked by that.

00:25:52.000 But, you know, again, we just need you to buy the videos and the books that we offer.

00:25:59.000 That's how you support us.

00:26:00.000 But I will tell you that A gentleman in the United Kingdom gave us a substantive donation and we talked to him.

00:26:10.000 He can obviously afford it, so we will take it.

00:26:13.000 And I will let you know that I took the money that we made from the six showings that I had of martial law here in Austin and I bought A TV quality TV camera.

00:26:24.000 And you can see the difference in quality compared to the even other expensive cameras I had.

00:26:29.000 Now this thing's high definition and shoots in film quality.

00:26:32.000 And now when you see the interviews with MI5 agents in England or Michael Meacher or Cindy Sheehan or Ray McGovern, the CIA briefer for George Herbert Walker Bush and Ronald Reagan, you can see the difference.

00:26:46.000 And we're going to take this donation because we did not have the money to buy an even better editing system.

00:26:53.000 We've got two computers.

00:26:54.000 They're not old, but in this business, two years old is old, folks.

00:26:58.000 It slows us down.

00:26:59.000 We can't get stuff done.

00:27:01.000 I'm going to buy new computers.

00:27:03.000 I'm going to buy two new computers with this.

00:27:07.000 So thank you.

00:27:09.000 100% of that is going to go into the fight.

00:27:13.000 So you just put gas in our war mock, or in our tank here, in our battleship, to run over the enemy.

00:27:23.000 So, we'll just put it right back into the fight because that's my lust.

00:27:26.000 That's my passion.

00:27:27.000 I mean, that's my drive.

00:27:29.000 I just love to wake people up.

00:27:31.000 I get a thrill out of exposing evil.

00:27:33.000 I mean, I got a thrill last night out of taking a 30-minute production we put together since Sunday, really professional, that one of my editors did.

00:27:41.000 He doesn't want to be thanked on air.

00:27:43.000 He won't say his name.

00:27:44.000 People say, why don't you mention your crew?

00:27:46.000 Well, some of them don't want attention, folks.

00:27:48.000 But he did a great job.

00:27:52.000 I don't know.

00:28:00.000 I'm just, again, I'm humbled by the support.

00:28:03.000 I am humbled by the talented people that support us.

00:28:07.000 I am humbled by the dedication.

00:28:12.000 I realize that I've got to do a good job.

00:28:14.000 I mean, we have millions of people listening to us.

00:28:17.000 We've got to tell it like it is and be bold and not pull punches.

00:28:21.000 Whenever it's midnight and I've been up since 7am and I've got to do some midnight radio interview and I don't want to do it, I just remember that we're going to be warning tens of thousands of people who have never heard the truth and that we've got a job to expose these evil terrorists.

00:28:35.000 To expose these killers that radiate children's brains, that put poison in the water supply, because they hate us, because they want to dumb us down, because they want to control us.

00:28:46.000 And we've got to have the will to face the data.

00:28:51.000 I mean, all the time I try to disprove the conclusions we come to.

00:28:57.000 I may rant and rave on the air, but I scientifically Approaches.

00:29:02.000 People that know me, I'm very quiet, very focused, until I then get on air and then just force myself to focus on what I've researched.

00:29:09.000 Then sometimes I get a bit emotional because I tend to shift into preacher mode, frankly because it gives me energy.

00:29:15.000 It's really a crutch.

00:29:16.000 The ranting and raving is a crutch, folks.

00:29:19.000 Because when I go into that mode, I have vast resources of energy.

00:29:24.000 To be calm is actually very stressful.

00:29:27.000 Because I'm in that mode most of the time.

00:29:29.000 Quietly focusing, researching, working, doing the basics.

00:29:34.000 But all of you, I just salute you to Oz there in the UK.

00:29:40.000 We want to thank you.

00:29:41.000 Alright, we'll be right back with the news, your calls, and we've got four big guests coming up in the second and third hours.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:11.000 On Monday, ABC News Australia, ABC News is a branch over there, reported what has been the Latin American press for almost a year.

00:33:21.000 Celica Stillo talked about it on this broadcast, former top DEA agent in Latin America.

00:33:27.000 He talked about it about a year ago on this show, and then again about six months ago.

00:33:33.000 Last weekend, we posted the article, Secret Border Wars, and it's on the right-hand side of PrisonPlanet.com.

00:33:43.000 It's on the right-hand side of PrisonPlanet.com, the news in focus.

00:33:46.000 No one has linked to it.

00:33:47.000 It's got no attention.

00:33:49.000 I don't know why this story can't get traction.

00:33:52.000 Rocket attacks, bazooka attacks, firebombs, 600 plus dead this year alone on both sides.

00:33:59.000 Dozens and dozens of dead cops on both sides.

00:34:02.000 Los Zetas is CIA-trained.

00:34:05.000 Fort Benning, Georgia, they're working for the CIA.

00:34:07.000 This doesn't even come out in mainstream newspapers, folks, okay?

00:34:10.000 But you never see it in the national news.

00:34:13.000 They're out killing drug dealers that don't pay their cut.

00:34:16.000 And ABC News Australia reported that foreign former death squad commanders and new recruits by the thousands have been hired to be shipped to Iraq to carry out torture and mass murder. 0.79

00:34:28.000 That's why they wear black masks, so you don't know they're Latin American. 1.00

00:34:31.000 They love to use Latin Americans to pose as Arabs, just like they did in the London bombings, folks. 1.00

00:34:37.000 Because, you know, it's just a perfect fit.

00:34:40.000 And I told you that we're going to have Latin American death squads, not just the Los Zetas Mexican troops, but Latin American death squads are being trained at the South Texas Ranch.

00:34:51.000 We told you this four months ago when we learned of this.

00:34:54.000 Do you understand the magnitude?

00:34:58.000 Kevin Smith has it in front of him.

00:34:59.000 We're posting it on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com within the hour, on top of our border war story.

00:35:06.000 And since we posted that, two governors have declared states of emergency in New Mexico and Arizona, Richardson and Napolitano, respectively.

00:35:16.000 I mean, it is insane.

00:35:18.000 And, folks, I'm not joking.

00:35:20.000 They work for the CIA, they are a plausible deniability death squad, and they will be used politically as well.

00:35:26.000 So we're facing actual death squads in America.

00:35:29.000 And, I mean, you've got a few hundred deaths in Latin American countries, which would turn into tens of thousands.

00:35:33.000 It was top news here.

00:35:35.000 You know, with the death squads down there.

00:35:37.000 Why isn't it news here?

00:35:39.000 We now have narco-terrorist drug squads, and it is in the mainstream news.

00:35:43.000 The Cabelas are with the Los Zetas. 0.91

00:35:44.000 Now we have Guatemalan troops attacking and killing.

00:35:48.000 And good to have you on with us, Kevin Smith.

00:35:51.000 Kevin, I mean, people can't believe it when we talk about this, but here it is in the San Antonio Express News.

00:35:56.000 It's right in your face, and I appreciate you getting me on real quick.

00:35:59.000 I just got a call a few minutes ago from Selly Castillo pointing this out to me, and I'll just read you a little bit of it real quick.

00:36:07.000 It says that Guatemala Commandos who may be training drug cartel gunmen on a ranch in Mexico.

00:36:15.000 July 28th, intelligence alert.

00:36:17.000 But see, we know where the ranch is near the King Ranch in South Texas.

00:36:22.000 Oh yeah, there's another.

00:36:23.000 By the way, in the next month or so, we are going down there.

00:36:26.000 Both sides, baby.

00:36:27.000 The most dangerous mission yet.

00:36:30.000 I can't wait.

00:36:31.000 It states about 30 men, once part of the Guatemalan Cabelas Special Forces Unit, are reported to be training members of Zetas, a paramilitary group.

00:36:39.000 We know the rest.

00:36:41.000 It continues on, and it says, these are a former rogue element again.

00:36:47.000 And it says, in one night... Trained by the U.S. 0.75

00:36:50.000 government, yeah.

00:36:51.000 Yeah, when they were down there... As soon as they graduate, they go rogue!

00:36:54.000 And they get on C-130s and are flown to Iraq, going rogue! 0.84

00:36:57.000 In fact, some of your previous statements, in one night, 44 kidnapped people were rescued, then quickly detained on suspicion of working for drug gangs.

00:37:09.000 So, sure enough, the people they were kidnapping and murdering, guess what?

00:37:12.000 They worked for the rival.

00:37:14.000 No, no, no.

00:37:15.000 We know.

00:37:16.000 Selly has the inside.

00:37:17.000 I actually have some other sources.

00:37:19.000 Even before all this broke loose a year ago, we knew the U.S.

00:37:22.000 government controls the heroin and cocaine traffic.

00:37:25.000 They've lost a large portion of their monopoly.

00:37:27.000 Now it's an oligopoly.

00:37:29.000 It is a literal war for control of the $250 billion U.S.

00:37:32.000 market.

00:37:35.000 Well, another telling thing about this group, their name derived from a Mayan leader who avoided the Spanish Conquistadors, and they were accused of human rights abuses during the Guatemala Civil War of the 80s, and what's really telling here is that Selly trained these people.

00:37:54.000 This was the anti-drug units that Selly was training in Guatemala.

00:37:58.000 And he used to bring Delta in to help train.

00:38:01.000 So again, this is an extension of Negroponte.

00:38:04.000 He's now the Supreme Head of All Intelligence.

00:38:07.000 And now our domestic commissariat, he has the same job as Marcus Wolfe did, the head of the Stasi.

00:38:13.000 And they've hired Marcus Wolfe to help them create the Stasi squads. 0.82

00:38:17.000 And lo and behold, every day, the biggest janitorial company will now be spying on you.

00:38:21.000 The biggest exterminator company.

00:38:23.000 You know, all truck drivers.

00:38:25.000 Everybody's going to be a tattletale now.

00:38:30.000 You know, in the past in Texas, Alex, law enforcement is very territorial.

00:38:37.000 They don't like other law enforcement coming into their backyard and telling them what to do.

00:38:40.000 So where is the response from law enforcement in Texas saying, We've got these people coming in our backyard, killing, doing as they will.

00:38:47.000 We're going to go out there and stop them.

00:38:49.000 They're not going to do a thing.

00:38:50.000 They're going to pull families over, and shake them down, and give them tickets, and search vehicles, and take 16-year-olds with, you know, one hitter of marijuana to jail.

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 Well, it just shows you, look, they put Negroponte in place, and what is happening?

00:39:05.000 I mean, it says, you know, overnight, these people... Hey, selling a year ago said, Negroponte becomes head of intelligence, you're going to have death squads in America.

00:39:12.000 Boom! 0.99

00:39:12.000 Look what happened. 0.99

00:39:15.000 If you want him on, give him a call.

00:39:16.000 He's ready.

00:39:18.000 Well, I can't do it because I've got the U.S.S.

00:39:20.000 Liberty people coming on, and then I've got one of the associates of the FBI agent they killed who was trying to blow the whistle before 9-11.

00:39:27.000 Well, I know you can't today, but I just wanted to put that out there.

00:39:31.000 It's in your face.

00:39:32.000 Tell Shelly if he wants to come on at 11-30 tomorrow.

00:39:34.000 He's welcome.

00:39:38.000 All right.

00:39:39.000 Hey Alex, have a great job.

00:39:40.000 Have a great day.

00:39:41.000 Take care, Kevin.

00:39:43.000 Yeah, I mean, we've got to search your credit cards, we've got to put microphones up all over your cities, we've got to set up checkpoints and search you, we've got to search your children in the public schools, we've got to, you know, have terror drills, practicing taking your guns, oh, but we're going to let the Mexican and Guatemalan terror gangs literally control the U.S. 0.99

00:40:02.000 government.

00:40:03.000 Because I have articles where they admit they're hiring these groups and paying them right now, in Iraq, They're actually flying Latin Americans, and already twenty-something percent of our military on the ground in Iraq is Mexican and Latin American.

00:40:15.000 I mean, and now they're here running around slaughtering.

00:40:19.000 I mean, do you understand the magnitude of this?

00:40:21.000 And I can get no one, none of the alternative media for some reason will talk about this, will deal with this.

00:40:29.000 I get calls, or you shouldn't interview Selly.

00:40:32.000 He once went to a university and protested, and there were some leftists Standing beside him and he may be, you know, whatever, man.

00:40:40.000 I mean, it doesn't matter.

00:40:41.000 This stuff is real.

00:40:43.000 This stuff is going on.

00:40:45.000 Okay?

00:40:47.000 And I predict now that they're going to be doing political murders. 0.96

00:40:51.000 I mean, these are the type of folks that, if I get killed, that's who'll kill me. 0.77

00:40:54.000 And they'll just say that, oh, Alex Jones was carjacked. 0.89

00:40:57.000 They'll just walk up, just like they did Barry Seal, pop about 12 rounds into me.

00:41:01.000 Luckily, it won't be very painful.

00:41:03.000 and uh... there you've you know i mean seriously folks that you want to know i've already done the analysis you want to know that you need to worry about getting killed by the new world order i'm gonna be honest with you this is i don't get into mystical stuff i'm a christian uh... but i don't get off in all this i had a recurring dream for about five years and when i was a senior in high school into college and it was a mexican troops ruling us and folks these are the type of dreams i'd wake up with my heart pounding sweating

00:41:33.000 And it was in the far-off future.

00:41:35.000 I was an adult.

00:41:36.000 I had children.

00:41:38.000 I remember in the dream, I'd see myself in the mirror.

00:41:41.000 I was balding, which is starting to happen, and starting to lose my hair.

00:41:47.000 And it was real, folks.

00:41:49.000 It was real towns I'd never been to.

00:41:51.000 And then I was driving in the hill country and came to a four-way stop where I'd had the dream.

00:41:56.000 And I know the dreams I'm not supposed to ignore.

00:41:58.000 I've only had a few others.

00:41:59.000 Like, I'd have a dream, wake up heart pounding, where I walk around a corner of a building I've never been to, and somebody assaults me.

00:42:05.000 And then I'm walking, and as I'm walking, I haven't even told people about the dream, and then I'm walking, and then the person assaults me.

00:42:10.000 You know, wearing the same striped purple and green shirt.

00:42:15.000 And I've only had a few other dreams like that.

00:42:20.000 And we all have that sixth sense or whatever.

00:42:22.000 All the evidence shows it.

00:42:24.000 All the facts show it.

00:42:25.000 All the preparations show it.

00:42:27.000 All the details show it.

00:42:29.000 They're going to turn the Southwest into a Kosovo. 1.00

00:42:32.000 You understand that?

00:42:33.000 This is the new KLA.

00:42:34.000 But they're going to control this new KLA.

00:42:37.000 This is all going to be run out of the Pentagon.

00:42:40.000 And this is going to be their terror forces.

00:42:42.000 And I remember telling people about that dream, you know, 15 years ago.

00:42:49.000 Fourteen years ago.

00:42:51.000 And I didn't even really know about the New World Order then.

00:42:54.000 I was just waking up.

00:42:55.000 I was like, what is this dream?

00:42:56.000 I mean, I had it like every week, folks.

00:42:59.000 I mean, I have just an image of it.

00:43:01.000 The Mexican troops running checkpoints, backed up by our troops, and families being pulled out of cars.

00:43:07.000 I'm telling you it's going to happen.

00:43:09.000 Okay?

00:43:10.000 Unless we stop it.

00:43:12.000 And, you know, I mean, I've got to share this with you.

00:43:15.000 I think I've mentioned it one other time.

00:43:18.000 I mean, it's... if you want to call it a vision, that's exactly what it is.

00:43:22.000 And these are, you know, horrible... It's horrible!

00:43:26.000 I mean, and now we see it, and now no one will talk about it.

00:43:29.000 I mean, rocket attacks, bazooka attacks, car bombs, murders, uh, just, just, just everywhere.

00:43:35.000 And, uh... It's really going on, folks.

00:43:42.000 I hate to see, you know, nightmares starting to come true.

00:43:48.000 But again, in the dream I live with my family.

00:43:54.000 Let's just say I engage the Mexican troops.

00:44:01.000 That's all I can say is that we're not going to put up with this, folks.

00:44:05.000 I mean, I know that our government controls this and is letting this happen.

00:44:11.000 It's just horrible, folks.

00:44:13.000 It's just so sick.

00:44:15.000 But you don't have to go off the dreams of Alex Jones.

00:44:17.000 I mean, you can just read the San Antonio Express News, the Brownsville Herald, the Dallas Morning News, Associated Press, CBS News, ABC News.

00:44:26.000 I mean, it's all there.

00:44:28.000 The nightmare is there.

00:44:29.000 And I'm talking about over the next ten years, folks, just getting worse and worse and worse and worse.

00:44:35.000 Let's just go ahead and take calls.

00:44:37.000 Chris in Texas.

00:44:38.000 Go ahead, Chris.

00:44:41.000 Bless you for everything that you do. 0.95

00:44:45.000 You know, talking about evil people and needing to do something about them, the scumbag in Crawford that mowed down the War Hero Memorial, have his name and phone number I'd like to get out. 0.69

00:44:58.000 No, we're not going to do that. 0.96

00:45:00.000 That's patently illegal.

00:45:01.000 It's activism though, brother.

00:45:02.000 That won't do a thing. 1.00

00:45:04.000 Calling and wasting our time on some just mindless idiot. 1.00

00:45:07.000 You know, that guy probably isn't even that evil. 1.00

00:45:09.000 He's just dumb. 0.99

00:45:11.000 But what else is on your mind, Chris? 0.99

00:45:13.000 Well, I'm looking forward to hearing your guest today.

00:45:13.000 Good point.

00:45:16.000 You know, the Crawford thing is kind of minor, and it was, you know, reading the polls on News 8, listening to everybody badmouth Ms. 0.89

00:45:25.000 Sheehan.

00:45:26.000 You know, these neocons have completely lost their sense of compassion and their sense of humanity.

00:45:34.000 And it's, you know, it's frightening.

00:45:35.000 It's alarming to see.

00:45:37.000 It was nice to hear from you.

00:45:38.000 Kevin, I'm looking forward to your report from down on the border.

00:45:42.000 Please be careful.

00:45:43.000 Well, that's coming up in a while, you know.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, you were saying about a month you were going to go down and... I never, you know, I always just pop up places.

00:45:53.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:45:54.000 Can't be leaving a pattern or letting people know when you're going, but when you do go, Godspeed and be careful, brother.

00:46:01.000 Keep up the good work.

00:46:02.000 Well, I appreciate that call.

00:46:04.000 Let me just say this.

00:46:05.000 We have the clip.

00:46:06.000 We'll air it later if we have time.

00:46:08.000 Nothing against G. Gordon Liddy.

00:46:09.000 I mean, I've had G. Gordon Liddy on this show, what, three times?

00:46:13.000 I agree with him on the Second Amendment, a lot of stuff, but he's really out of control when he, you know, first he was against the Patriot Act, now he defends it.

00:46:22.000 I mean, you know, a lot of flip-flopping going on, and calling Cindy Sheehan anti-Semitic is just despicable.

00:46:30.000 Because she used the word neocon.

00:46:32.000 And he says, if you use the word neocon, that's code for anti-semitism.

00:46:37.000 Folks, the neocons in published books, ten years ago, called themselves neoconservatives.

00:46:45.000 So that'd be like if, say, the revolutionaries in Texas called themselves the Texians, and then a hundred years later I call them the Texians, and they go, ooh, that's anti-Texian if you call them Texian.

00:46:59.000 That'd be like if a black person called themselves African-American and you said, well, the African-Americans say this, oh, you're anti-black, you said African-American.

00:47:07.000 I mean, it's off the charts. 0.95

00:47:09.000 Oh, that's code!

00:47:10.000 And then you talk about the IMF and World Bank, that's code for anti-Semitism.

00:47:16.000 What, am I talking about the sun coming up?

00:47:17.000 Is that code for anti-Semitism?

00:47:19.000 If I say I don't want to have the war with Iraq, it's anti-Semitism?

00:47:24.000 I mean, now it's lost all credibility, even on Fox News.

00:47:27.000 The other guest and others, when Liddy said this, said, oh, that's ridiculous, because you can get sued for that, folks.

00:47:34.000 I mean, I talked to Cindy Sheehan.

00:47:36.000 She says that a lot of this is for Israel, which part of it is.

00:47:39.000 It's about domestic police state and trillions in oil, but part of it is about Israel.

00:47:44.000 I mean, are we allowed to say that Israel's cheering on the war?

00:47:47.000 I mean, has it got... half the Jews in Israel are against the war.

00:47:51.000 More than half.

00:47:53.000 Sharon's government's hanging on by its fingernail.

00:47:56.000 So are they all anti-Semitic?

00:47:58.000 What about those 100,000 Jewish children that the Israeli government radiated?

00:48:02.000 Most of them died.

00:48:02.000 Many of them died.

00:48:04.000 Are you anti-Semitic if you talk about that?

00:48:06.000 I mean, I'm trying to... Folks, I love everybody.

00:48:12.000 And you know, this is balkanization.

00:48:14.000 I mean, I've got video.

00:48:15.000 It's on the website.

00:48:16.000 G. Gordon Liddy says, if you say Neocon, you're anti-Semitic.

00:48:20.000 And I say, you're saying she's anti-Semitic? 0.98

00:48:22.000 Yeah, she's an anti-Semite. 1.00

00:48:24.000 Because she said Neocon. 1.00

00:48:26.000 Now, Liddy is not stupid, folks. 1.00

00:48:29.000 And he's an intelligence hack. 0.99

00:48:31.000 If anybody is... I'm not even going to... Everybody knows about Liddy and who he thinks he is and the clicking of the heels and all that.

00:48:39.000 I mean, you talk about You talk about the pot calling the kettle black, folks.

00:48:45.000 I mean, this is the pot calling Lily White black. 0.57

00:48:48.000 I mean, this is... This is a joke!

00:48:50.000 I mean, I'm tired of it, folks!

00:48:53.000 I got the sniveling neo-Nazis death-threatening me on a routine basis, and I've got the ADL saying mean things about me.

00:49:02.000 False quoting me!

00:49:03.000 Oh, the latest thing!

00:49:04.000 I mean, I could own them!

00:49:06.000 I don't have the time to do it!

00:49:07.000 And they don't even say I'm an anti-Semite.

00:49:09.000 They like... 0.97

00:49:10.000 They just mix me in with horrible people and then just say, Alex Jones says Mexican's culture is, what was the exact quote, is just pure evil. 0.80

00:49:20.000 Though I said the Aztec culture.

00:49:24.000 I actually went back and listened to the show.

00:49:26.000 They even psyched the show!

00:49:28.000 I went and I knew I didn't say that anyways.

00:49:30.000 By and large it's a good culture in many respects.

00:49:33.000 Pro-family, very, very, you know, pro-family, very pro-father.

00:49:39.000 You know, just very good.

00:49:41.000 I like it.

00:49:41.000 Other than the kickbacks, the Mordido, all of that stuff that's left over from Spain, and then a mixture of other stuff.

00:49:48.000 I've never said that about that culture.

00:49:50.000 I've said the Aztec culture is extremely evil. 1.00

00:49:53.000 Just like the Nazi culture is. 0.96

00:49:56.000 Just like the Zionist culture is. 1.00

00:49:58.000 And I'm sick of it!

00:50:01.000 So...

00:50:03.000 See, that's all they can do.

00:50:04.000 It's like when the Charlton Post Dispatch attacked me two days ago.

00:50:08.000 They actually created fake quotes, things I didn't say, and then attributed them to me.

00:50:15.000 So, you know, folks, and I can't respond to all the attacks by the government hacks, and the liars, and the fake neocons, and the fake patriots on the web.

00:50:24.000 I mean, people say, well, why don't you respond?

00:50:25.000 Because it'll just regenerate itself, and I've got to respond, respond, respond.

00:50:29.000 Just know, it is a pack of lies.

00:50:33.000 As George Galloway said, I mean it's just a pack of lies.

00:50:38.000 It's all a pack of lies.

00:50:40.000 It's just everything I've ever seen criticizing me is a pack of lies.

00:50:45.000 Other than I cut people off and I'm obnoxious and aggressive.

00:50:49.000 Yes, I stand guilty, but everything is a pack of lies.

00:50:54.000 Look at the accusers.

00:50:55.000 They are the ones you should look at.

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00:53:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:54:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:16.000 Pat and Robert and Arthur and Skunk and Tim, everybody, your calls are coming up.

00:54:22.000 We have the director of the Loss of Liberty video and the highly decorated doctor who saved so many lives on that ship that day joining us as well coming up.

00:54:32.000 And then just another incredible guest in the third hour, but I'm going to go to your calls here in a second.

00:54:36.000 I've got to say this.

00:54:38.000 This is just one example of a thousand ways they spin in line.

00:54:43.000 The other day I'm listening to Sean Hannity.

00:54:44.000 For some reason they've got him on right after I go off the air on WOAI.

00:54:47.000 You know, I attended WOAI when I got off air and I was listening.

00:54:50.000 It was Sean Hannity instead of the local show.

00:54:53.000 I guess because he's down in Texas.

00:54:56.000 Traipsing about, you know, about the border.

00:54:59.000 And he talked about the border being out of control, why won't Bush fix it?

00:55:03.000 For ten minutes and I thought, you know, I know what he's going to do.

00:55:05.000 He's going to say amnesty will fix it.

00:55:08.000 It's not about the tens of millions that are here and the more that want to come.

00:55:12.000 It's going to be about Al Qaeda. 0.81

00:55:13.000 So let's just have a national ID card and legalize all of them.

00:55:16.000 And I knew it!

00:55:18.000 I never heard him talk this hardcore, but he was getting everybody fired up, and his answer was the guest worker program, and I heard it, see?

00:55:25.000 So they, oh, it's horrible, it's bad, let's legalize it.

00:55:28.000 But they don't say that, they say, let's give them a guest worker, you know.

00:55:32.000 So, so, that's the type of stuff we deal with.

00:55:35.000 They'll admit all the truth, and then give you a bad solution.

00:55:41.000 I agree with you, Sean.

00:55:42.000 These liberals don't want a guest worker program. 0.99

00:55:45.000 They need to be stopped.

00:55:47.000 The liberals are the ones that proposed it! 1.00

00:55:52.000 I mean, you're just... you people are the dumbest dirt, man, that can listen to that and be... and these people are consciously trying to lie to you and manipulate you. 1.00

00:56:00.000 And you just sit there buying it and loving it. 1.00

00:56:04.000 What, you like people laughing at you?

00:56:06.000 You like being conned? 1.00

00:56:07.000 You like being stupid? 1.00

00:56:09.000 You like losing the war for this country? 1.00

00:56:12.000 Oh, man.

00:56:13.000 Alright, I'm gonna...

00:56:15.000 And I'm just going to say it briefly.

00:56:16.000 I got 12 films I made, a bunch of other videos and books we carry, a whole video and bookstore on Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

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00:56:42.000 Let's go ahead and go to Pat in Indiana.

00:56:45.000 Pat, go ahead.

00:56:46.000 Hi.

00:56:47.000 Hi.

00:56:47.000 I'm calling today because I called Troy Derangoski's show this morning here in Indiana.

00:56:53.000 And they were taking a survey who was for Bush and who was against Bush.

00:56:58.000 And I called in, most of them were calling for Bush.

00:57:01.000 Yeah, it's a Neocon radio station.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, and I tried to tell them, you know, we've got a war going on down at the border.

00:57:08.000 He's a member of the Bohemian Grove and they worship Moloch and that he's a felon boner and he's taken the oath to the death tomb. 0.67

00:57:17.000 And I try to bring up all the things that he's doing that's wrong in this country that's bringing down our country. 0.98

00:57:23.000 And they said you were crazy. 0.83

00:57:25.000 Yeah, I was crazy. 0.83

00:57:28.000 And then I had another question about Gary Wills.

00:57:31.000 He was on once before and I sent you a video and they had it again on this Sunday.

00:57:37.000 And Gary Wills also said he was a member, he was on the Warren Report, the Warren Commission, and that he wrote the book about Jack Ruby.

00:57:48.000 And I was just wondering, did you get that video?

00:57:51.000 And also, Judge Andrew Apolitano was on there.

00:57:55.000 And they keep bringing Wills up quite often now.

00:57:58.000 Alright, well I'll check that out.

00:58:00.000 Thank you so much for the call, Pat.

00:58:02.000 Good to hear from you.

00:58:02.000 We're out of time for this hour.

00:58:05.000 We're going to go ahead and get our two guests on now, but we'll get your calls, don't worry, Robert and others that are holding.

00:58:11.000 Let's go ahead and get Dr. Richard Kiefer on.

00:58:14.000 We'll go ahead and call him and the director of the film, Loss of Liberty, Tito Howard, that they now have gotten out on DVD finally.

00:58:22.000 So we have that available via DVD with some extras as well at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:58:28.000 We also have a new video Beyond Freezin' available.

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00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central, back from 9 to midnight.

00:59:24.000 We're here, my friends, blasting out on the AM and FM dial from Southern California to upstate New York, Niagara Falls, from From the panhandle of Florida to Kansas City, Missouri.

00:59:37.000 From Chicago, Illinois to, well, the beautiful fields of Ohio.

00:59:43.000 We are here, ladies and gentlemen, and for the next 60 minutes, I am truly honored to be joined by a great American filmmaker, Tito Howard.

00:59:53.000 But I tell you, his work and my work pale in significance to somebody who I'm sure doesn't want to hear what a hero he is, but he is a true hero, Dr. Richard Kieffer, a very highly decorated naval officer, who was one of the survivors, one of the heroes, one of the victims of the dastardly premeditated attack on the U.S.S.

01:00:17.000 Liberty back in 1967, which had the anniversary a few months ago.

01:00:22.000 And we are here in the next hour to talk about this, and before I go to Dr. Richard Kiefer, who I know doesn't want to toot his own horn, let's bring up Tito Howard to tell us, well, there's a lot of new developments on the USS Liberty, even more mounding evidence of premeditated problem-reaction solution, but just tell us about Dr. Richard Kiefer, and in the next few minutes, then we're going to go to break and come back with Dr. Richard Kiefer, but Tito, good to have you on with us.

01:00:49.000 Good to be back with you, Alex, and I welcome the opportunity to introduce to your audience a truly great American.

01:00:58.000 He was the only doctor aboard Liberty.

01:01:01.000 He had a bullet hole.

01:01:03.000 He had a burn.

01:01:04.000 He had 11 pieces of shrapnel in his abdomen, which he kept He held together with a life jacket, and he continued to operate on seriously wounded American sailors.

01:01:24.000 And even under those conditions, he had a broken right kneecap and other injuries.

01:01:29.000 I mean, and he stood on those legs for 28 consecutive hours, saving American lives and Well, for those that don't know, I mean, having one piece of shrapnel on your stomach would make you incredibly nauseated.

01:01:42.000 It's superhuman, but that's what people do in times of crisis.

01:01:45.000 So he's an eyewitness to all of this carnage, and we're going to be talking to him after this break, but please continue, Tito.

01:01:52.000 Yes, well, he is more familiar with the carnage than any other single person, and he was also at the Navy Court of Inquiry, and I think it would be good if you'd ask him to address some of those things, because they were not allowed to give the evidence they wanted to, and we're challenging that whole thing now, which I'll get into more depth.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, it's important also, you know, in a thumbnail sketch for those that don't know about the U.S.

01:02:20.000 of Celebrity, to just in a thumbnail from you and, of course, the doctor, what happened that day back in 1967.

01:02:28.000 Just unbelievable.

01:02:30.000 20, how many hours?

01:02:33.000 28 consecutive hours.

01:02:35.000 And he stayed with the ship all the way to Malta, although addressing his own wounds.

01:02:39.000 And he brought help.

01:02:41.000 He was one of the 15 or 18 that brought the ship all the way back to New Orleans.

01:02:46.000 Well, I think it's safe to say they don't hardly make them like that anymore.

01:02:50.000 I mean, just amazing.

01:02:54.000 It's just amazing, and thank God that he and others stayed at their posts or that ship certainly would have gone down.

01:03:00.000 Certainly, and George Golden, the ship's engineers stayed down in the boiler room even though it was very dangerous to do that because if something happens, they're gone.

01:03:13.000 And Captain McGonigal was a great man too.

01:03:18.000 I think we need to focus today on the role of the doctor, and I feel that he's responsible for something like 40 or 42 American lives saved.

01:03:28.000 Alright, well we'll come back and talk to the doctor who we're honored to have on with us, Dr. Richard Keefer.

01:03:34.000 And I do carry, I carry limited films and books, but I believe in this film.

01:03:38.000 Loss of Liberty.

01:03:39.000 We do carry it on Infowars.com.

01:03:42.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:07:14.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, now 8 minutes, 30 seconds into this second hour.

01:07:29.000 Thank you.

01:07:31.000 Back in 1967, a naval ship was under orders, parked off the coast of Israel in international waters, and came under attack.

01:07:43.000 And it was the story of the USS Liberty.

01:07:48.000 And we are joined by a filmmaker, Tito Howard, who's done a great job making the film, The Loss of Liberty.

01:07:53.000 And we are also joined by the doctor, the ship's doctor, the only medical personnel on board the ship, Dr. Richard Kiefer, who himself had a bullet wound, over 10 pieces of shrapnel in his stomach, had to tie his stomach together with a life jacket, and of course a broken kneecap, and the ship was under attack for hour after hour by torpedo boats, fighter bombers, You name it, Israel trying to sink it, of course to be blamed on Egypt as a pretext for war and our own government complicit.

01:08:21.000 And we've had admirals on, we've had other victims that were on the ship, other heroes on, but never been honored to have Dr. Richard Kiefer on.

01:08:28.000 We've of course had Tito on many times.

01:08:30.000 And Dr. Kiefer, thank you for coming on with us today.

01:08:34.000 Well, glad to be here.

01:08:36.000 Why don't you and Tito just go back and forth, but first you.

01:08:39.000 I mean, describe that day, what the mission was, why you were there, and then what transpired over the next 28 hours.

01:08:49.000 How the Navy wouldn't give you assistance, what you had to do, the carnage you witnessed, sir.

01:08:56.000 Well, our mission was to monitor transmissions from tank groups and aircraft.

01:09:05.000 Specifically to see if Russians, Russian pilots, were piloting the Russian aircraft.

01:09:16.000 And that would have, I guess, turned a sensitive situation into an inflammatory one.

01:09:26.000 We were off the coast of Egypt, a few miles out from, and we could see the Minaret from Alex Breesh.

01:09:38.000 A column of smoke coming from that city.

01:09:44.000 We had been overflown several times.

01:09:49.000 One plane, an old B-25 came in.

01:09:54.000 Doctor, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

01:09:56.000 Can you speak up for us?

01:09:57.000 Sure.

01:09:58.000 Thank you.

01:09:59.000 A plane, an Israel marking B-25 came over.

01:10:06.000 came so close that the captain told the officer of the deck watch that plane and if he opens bomb bay doors call general quarters and hard right so the captain instinctively felt something was wrong yes and he had been about twenty odd years in the navy

01:10:35.000 Several turns at sea, and yeah, he had the feeling about that.

01:10:43.000 We, however, felt that we were in international waters, flying an American flag, and we're safe.

01:10:51.000 So it was kind of like all the captains overreacting?

01:10:57.000 I don't think it got to that point, but we were sort of worried of Who was doing what?

01:11:07.000 So this plane was acting aggressively?

01:11:10.000 Yes.

01:11:12.000 Please continue.

01:11:15.000 Well, there was a quiet period from 11 o'clock till 1 o'clock.

01:11:27.000 We had lunch and at 1 o'clock had a general quarters drill.

01:11:36.000 Again, possibly indicating that the captain felt threatened.

01:11:44.000 We secured from that and everyone was back at their station.

01:11:49.000 And at that time my station was having coffee in the boardroom while the corpsman took care of the minor problems in afternoon sick-all and waited for me to get there to look at the ones that they thought were more serious and they could handle.

01:12:10.000 A few minutes after two o'clock came the first explosion.

01:12:18.000 George Golden who is the chief engineer thought that that had come from one of his boilers and that there had been some kind of a

01:12:34.000 explosion in the engine room and he took off I felt safe enough I didn't think it was a full-fledged attack so that rather than going down one level across and up another ladder to sickbay I walked across the 40 or 50 feet of deck between the main

01:13:06.000 portion of the ship's superstructure and the entrance to sickbay.

01:13:15.000 When that happened I saw an aircraft fly over and the announcement came out of General Quarters.

01:13:23.000 General Quarters were under attack.

01:13:29.000 I went in to sickbay.

01:13:31.000 Now sickbay had a total of six Beds.

01:13:39.000 And when they filled up, we had to put someone on the floor.

01:13:49.000 That man was carried in.

01:13:53.000 Has several, well, very significant wounds.

01:14:00.000 But that was the time when I was told that There were dozens of injured.

01:14:12.000 So now you know you're really under attack.

01:14:14.000 I mean, Doctor, can you kind of, I know it's a long story, but crystallized in kind of the abbreviated version of what happened over the next 28 hours, the waves of attacks by boats and bombers and all of this?

01:14:32.000 Yeah, the initial attack came from Three air squadrons.

01:14:41.000 Two Mirage, one Mystere.

01:14:47.000 Half hour into the attack, we picked up a squadron of torpedo boats, who also came, launched their torpedoes.

01:15:03.000 We were hit by one of The six torpedoes that they launched.

01:15:08.000 Now, how big of a hole was that?

01:15:10.000 Uh... 35 by 50.

01:15:16.000 And folks, I mean, literally, giant holes smashing in the ship, but luckily, thank God, you guys had already locked down the ship.

01:15:23.000 Now, in all total, it was what?

01:15:25.000 800 and something cannon holes, thousands of strafe holes, a torpedo hole.

01:15:31.000 How many white phosphorus bombs did the three squadrons of planes drop on you?

01:15:38.000 I didn't count, but there were several.

01:15:43.000 Probably at least four.

01:15:46.000 When did you sustain your bullet wound and the eleven or twelve other wounds and the broken kneecap?

01:15:53.000 Okay, the broken kneecap came when we were told that we were under torpedo attack.

01:16:04.000 And I got to There were two people on the floor.

01:16:13.000 So I went down to be able to get hands and feet, my hands and feet over theirs.

01:16:21.000 And since we were, the boat was going to jump if the torpedo hit.

01:16:26.000 So you were holding them down, shielding them?

01:16:28.000 Yeah.

01:16:32.000 And then the torpedo hit and what the... And a boat Fell off one of the shelves and landed on my knee.

01:16:40.000 Where did you get the bullet wound from?

01:16:43.000 The bullet wound came when I was on deck bringing a couple of sailors in.

01:16:52.000 I had seen them and asked some of the other people to bring them in.

01:16:57.000 And the persistent sentiment there was we're not going out in that.

01:17:05.000 How many hours did this go on?

01:17:07.000 The strafing and the boats attacking?

01:17:12.000 From the time of the first strafing to the last torpedo was two to two and a half hours.

01:17:24.000 When did you get the shrapnel?

01:17:26.000 The shrapnel came in Chick Bay and Myself, one person who had come in with wounds and I had just done first aid treatment on that because there were another hundred below.

01:17:52.000 Doctor, how were you able to do that with a broken kneecap, a bullet hole in you, and then, according to press reports, your stomach basically is wide open, and your belly wide open.

01:18:05.000 How were you able to keep it functioning?

01:18:09.000 I took two of the morphine doses, took them from the large container that they came in into a datal, and I tried to balance myself.

01:18:24.000 Between being ready to fall asleep and not being able to function for pain.

01:18:32.000 All right.

01:18:32.000 We'll stay there, sir.

01:18:33.000 We've got a break.

01:18:34.000 We're going to come back.

01:18:35.000 And then you guys are calling for help.

01:18:37.000 Help us.

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01:18:38.000 And it's 28 hours.

01:18:40.000 You don't get help.

01:18:42.000 And we've talked to the admirals, folks.

01:18:44.000 The call came in from the president.

01:18:46.000 You know, that G.D.

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01:23:08.000 We're talking about USS Liberty.

01:23:09.000 We're talking to Tito Howards, who made the Loss of Liberty video that we, incidentally, carry at InfoWars.com.

01:23:16.000 And we're talking to Dr. Richard Kiefer, a very highly decorated sailor, a medical doctor on board the ship, ship's doctor.

01:23:23.000 with a bullet hole in him and with 11 or 12 shrapnel wounds in his stomach and a broken kneecap, rendering aid to people just unbelievable, above and beyond the call of duty.

01:23:38.000 And Tito, we're going to go back to Dr. Kiefer here in a second, but we'll have both of you guys up together.

01:23:45.000 I mean, are there any important questions you think I should bring up to Dr. Kiefer or any points you want to make to him?

01:23:51.000 Well, when you do get to Dr. Kiefer, I think it's important for your audience to be aware of how the crew was treated in Malta by the Navy and how the Court of Inquiry conducted itself in Dr. Kiefer, of course, was there and he's very insightful on that.

01:24:11.000 Well, I mean, we've had the people that were there on, and the Admiral, when they got to the ship, took them in and said, now tell me everything you know, and took his hat off.

01:24:20.000 His stars off.

01:24:21.000 Yeah, and then later he said, okay, now you tell anybody what you know, you're going to prison for the rest of your life or worse.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, they said, Court-martial, prison, or worse.

01:24:33.000 And they all said we knew what worse meant.

01:24:36.000 Now they secretly gave out a bunch of awards.

01:24:38.000 Tell folks, Tito, the awards that Dr. Kiefer and the Captain and others got.

01:24:42.000 Well, the Captain got the Medal of Honor.

01:24:43.000 I thought that Dr. Kiefer, if ever in the history of our American military a doctor deserved a Medal of Honor, Dr. Kiefer did.

01:24:53.000 Not only to have the training and And wisdom he had as a doctor, he was a very strong physical specimen.

01:25:02.000 And when he was out on deck, he brought in two wounded sailors himself.

01:25:09.000 And he won the Silver Star.

01:25:12.000 And there was over a total of 500 medals and awards given to... Yeah, most decorated ship, but that was all done secretly!

01:25:21.000 Yes, and the captain got his Medal of Honor.

01:25:26.000 by Ignatius, Secretary of the Navy Ignatius, in the back room of the Navy Yard in Washington on the same day that President Johnson gave two lesser medals to two of our Vietnam heroes.

01:25:39.000 But I'd like to address some of the recent things that...

01:25:45.000 We've got 30 minutes coming up right now, in a nutshell.

01:25:48.000 Dr. Kiefer, finish up the 28 hours.

01:25:52.000 It's hard to describe that in 5 hours here on air.

01:25:56.000 Where was your bullet wound?

01:25:58.000 My bullet wound came when I was taking men in and it went across the back of my calf, right about the knee.

01:26:06.000 Fortunately, missing bone.

01:26:09.000 What caliber was that?

01:26:10.000 50, 50 cal.

01:26:12.000 I mean, how did you have a broken kneecap and a 50 cal in the calf and 11 or 12 shrapnel wounds according to reports?

01:26:20.000 Is it accurate that you had your guts hanging out?

01:26:22.000 No.

01:26:23.000 Okay, how bad was it?

01:26:26.000 It was the tissue below where they shot the abdominal, for want of a nice term, fat.

01:26:35.000 Was hanging out.

01:26:36.000 Okay, so there was, yeah.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 Not the intestines.

01:26:39.000 Yeah, the reports were, there was just stuff hanging out of your, yeah.

01:26:42.000 Yeah.

01:26:43.000 Boy!

01:26:43.000 Man, that's incredible.

01:26:46.000 So, I mean, how much pain were you in?

01:26:48.000 I mean, I mean, I've been hurt really bad before, you know, had like a bone sticking out, and it's so hard to even think when you got, you know, like a compound fracture or something.

01:26:58.000 I mean, I'm sure you were in a lot more pain than most of us have ever been in.

01:27:01.000 How did you function?

01:27:04.000 Well, basically on morphine and anger.

01:27:12.000 Oh, anger?

01:27:13.000 Yeah.

01:27:16.000 We did not know who our assailants were at the time, but whoever it was, it just Made everybody furious.

01:27:31.000 Can you talk about the scraping of the lifeboats?

01:27:33.000 Did that make you even more angry?

01:27:35.000 Yes.

01:27:36.000 That's totally illegal.

01:27:38.000 Yeah.

01:27:40.000 Well, they wanted all survivors gone.

01:27:42.000 What happened with the scraping of the lifeboats?

01:27:46.000 Well, our lifeboats would go over the side and inflate. 0.92

01:27:56.000 When they would start to inflate, the 50 caliber machine gunners would just shoot them up and they'd sink.

01:28:08.000 One of them was taken aboard one of their boats and I am told it is on exhibit somewhere in Israel.

01:28:18.000 I mean, there's the hardcore proof they knew who they were attacking.

01:28:22.000 They're grabbing lifeboats.

01:28:23.000 This is funny.

01:28:25.000 I want to talk about those sending the commando helicopters with the commandos.

01:28:30.000 Unbelievable.

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01:31:43.000 340-7091 That's 800-340-7091 or visit calbempuresoap.com 38 I got a star on my car and one on my chest Years ago almost 38 years ago I mean this ship is under attack The Israelis are up close doing this giant American flag flying 0.96

01:32:12.000 And...

01:32:14.000 But Israeli pilots come public and said, yeah, we knew it was an American ship, we were ordered to attack it.

01:32:18.000 But while the ship's being attacked, planes are launched to defend it, and LBJ says, no, you leave it alone, that ship goes to the bottom.

01:32:27.000 And I've interviewed, I don't know, probably ten of the survivors, many other people over the years, admirals, people who were on the Board of Inquiry, people who were in internal talks, The ship, basically the White House, it had it parked out there, and from all the evidence, and this was going to be blamed on Egypt, and then to kick off a war with the Soviets.

01:32:47.000 That's what the predominant evidence shows.

01:32:51.000 And it's just horrible.

01:32:54.000 It's absolutely horrible.

01:32:55.000 I mean, I guess the Gulf of Tonkin wasn't real.

01:32:59.000 And people were finding out about that.

01:33:00.000 That wasn't successful enough to get us into Vietnam.

01:33:03.000 And now the LBJ tapes have been released with him with McNamara.

01:33:06.000 We've played them here on air where they talk about the ships were never attacked.

01:33:09.000 It was just all staged.

01:33:11.000 I'm not debating the Vietnam War, folks.

01:33:12.000 I'm not supporting the North Vietnamese. 1.00

01:33:14.000 My point is that this is very cynically done.

01:33:18.000 And so I want to finish up with what happened, the despicable acts that happened, and then get into the cover-up and Well, they came several hours after the attack had stopped.

01:33:28.000 just in the last few years against these heroes and others.

01:33:31.000 But Tito Howard, Dr. Richard Kiefer.

01:33:34.000 Dr. Kiefer, continuing, when did the helicopter gunships with the Israeli commandos show up to try to finish the job, and why do you think they finally pulled off and didn't kill you?

01:33:47.000 Well, they came several hours after the attack had stopped.

01:33:54.000 If the last bullet from the torpedo boat came at 4.15, Bye.

01:34:01.000 Thank you.

01:34:03.000 They came at 6.30 or something like that.

01:34:12.000 There was an American from the Embassy with them who dropped a note over with his card and said, you know, can he help?

01:34:26.000 Captain and I decided what we really didn't need was somebody who had been at a desk in the morning coming in and running the ship in the afternoon.

01:34:41.000 So we sent back a message that we are not under control and on that basis they left.

01:34:54.000 Could I add something to that Alex?

01:34:56.000 Yeah, I'm sure the commandos were there to help.

01:34:58.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:34:59.000 It's interesting because actually there were three helicopters.

01:35:03.000 There were two that came more immediately after the end of the fighting.

01:35:08.000 And we had one of the crew members had taken a picture.

01:35:12.000 I'm not sure if it was the captain or someone else.

01:35:15.000 And we had the numbers blown up.

01:35:17.000 And we know already that the Israeli Air Force and Navy is involved.

01:35:21.000 And those numbers blown up showed that these were Israeli Army Commando Helicopters, and other than the... No, they were there to finish the ship off.

01:35:33.000 They had heavily armed, about 18 people, and about 6 of them were sappers with explosive charges.

01:35:41.000 And they were going to shoot the ship?

01:35:44.000 Yes, and that was... I think the first round backed off because they knew you guys could probably hold up against them.

01:35:50.000 No, what it was is that They got a transmission that they thought help was coming from the Sixth Fleet and they took off.

01:35:58.000 Exactly, there was also a Russian ship they knew taking photos, all this.

01:36:02.000 Yes, and there's something in that regard I want to get to later, but the other thing is, the other helicopter that brought Commander Castle, who was the Navy attache at our embassy in Tel Aviv, and he is the one who asked if there was help.

01:36:21.000 If there was any casualties and there was blood and parts of Americans all over the decks, it was outrageous.

01:36:28.000 But the important thing, one of the important things to remember about those motor torpedo boats is that they were off like 600, 650 yards waiting for the Liberty to sink.

01:36:40.000 600, 650 yards waiting for the Liberty to sink.

01:36:44.000 And they had taken under fire the life rafts on board Liberty.

01:36:51.000 Some of them were already ready to get into water.

01:36:57.000 And they could only find three when the captain had given the order to abandon ship.

01:37:04.000 Only three that was left out of the entire ship's company and so they came back and took them under fire.

01:37:13.000 They sank two and they One of their .50 caliber shells cut the tether, and they took that aboard, and they put it in a military museum in the northern Negev near Daman.

01:37:24.000 Now this is a big, uh, this is a war trophy.

01:37:28.000 I've seen photos of the celebration of this, yeah?

01:37:31.000 Yeah, it's outrageous.

01:37:32.000 Now understand, folks, 600 yards away, there was an unusually large American flag on this ship.

01:37:37.000 And again, they've already gone public.

01:37:38.000 It wasn't American, they were trying to sink it. 0.99

01:37:41.000 And our government was involved, but, um, I mean... No question.

01:37:45.000 But I mean, so obvious!

01:37:46.000 I mean, why isn't it on Fox television?

01:37:51.000 Well, there's a good reason why it's not on Fox.

01:37:53.000 Rupert Murdoch owns Fox.

01:37:55.000 And he bought the London Times and the London Sunday Times after they had a six-part series on torture in Israeli prisons.

01:38:04.000 And Rupert Murdoch bought the London Times.

01:38:07.000 It's one of the planet's most premier newspapers and the London Sunday Times.

01:38:11.000 Well, exactly, but my point is, imagine if the Muslims had war trophies from dead Americans. 0.82

01:38:18.000 Oh, we'd be hearing about it. 0.57

01:38:19.000 We'd be hearing about it.

01:38:21.000 I mean, this is sick!

01:38:22.000 We give Israel everything and they do this to us?

01:38:24.000 They treat us like this?

01:38:25.000 Yeah, and the worst part of it is our president forcing the recall of the planes.

01:38:33.000 It's very interesting because There's the Liberty Veterans Association, an organization of the survivors.

01:38:39.000 And we have an organization mostly of admirals and other Navy officers called the Liberty Alliance.

01:38:48.000 And we are both in the process of taking action against the government.

01:38:54.000 The Liberty Veterans Association on the 8th of June delivered a war crimes report uh... to uh... the secretary of the army who is the executive agent for the secretary of defense for matters like this and the uh... uh... that we understand now has been given to NCIS which is the Navy Criminal Investigative Service.

01:39:21.000 We should do what Henry VIII did. 0.97

01:39:22.000 We should dig LBJ up and try his dead body.

01:39:26.000 Well, he's down in your neck of the woods.

01:39:29.000 Maybe that's something you can do.

01:39:30.000 I'm being sarcastic.

01:39:32.000 I'm not being serious, folks.

01:39:34.000 I don't really mean dig up his body.

01:39:36.000 It's a historical figurative statement.

01:39:38.000 Dr. Richard Kiefer, why do you think they were so bloodthirstily hateful towards you when you did nothing?

01:39:46.000 Well, from about the first day, I argued that they would not have done that.

01:39:56.000 They wouldn't have tried it.

01:39:58.000 If they didn't have assurances that the Sixth Fleet would come in and, well, blow up everything that they sent after us.

01:40:14.000 But they must have known, and apparently it came from the level of LBJ, that they were going to attack it.

01:40:23.000 They were going to try to attack it before we could get SOS out, because they were jamming our radio frequency.

01:40:32.000 Exactly, that shows a premeditated nature, jamming when they came in for the attack.

01:40:37.000 The important thing about that Alex, is if they want us to believe their argument, that they thought it was a 1920's Egyptian horse freighter, the El-Kassir, Then why did they jam all five American emergency radio channels?

01:40:56.000 Well, we've got pilots admitting they were ordered to attack and said, well, I don't want to.

01:40:59.000 That's American.

01:41:00.000 Attack, attack.

01:41:01.000 I mean, that's all on record.

01:41:02.000 We know what happened.

01:41:03.000 I mean, I've talked to the people that took the call with LBJ saying that GD ship goes to the bottom.

01:41:08.000 But to be specific now, we've got about 15 minutes left, gentlemen.

01:41:11.000 We've got to get you back up sometime in the future.

01:41:13.000 Please, Now let's talk about the whitewash and what has happened in the last 30, almost 38 years.

01:41:24.000 Well, let me take a shot at it first.

01:41:27.000 We have gotten some new material.

01:41:30.000 There is a gentleman named Bill Knutson who was the lead pilot from the America.

01:41:37.000 And he established several things for us.

01:41:40.000 This was just done about three Mondays ago in California.

01:41:44.000 And he said that he had launched, and it was only two planes, and they were armed with two Sparrows and two Sidewinder missiles.

01:41:55.000 In other words, for air-to-air combat.

01:42:00.000 But of course, with their cannon, they could have wreaked havoc with the motor torpedo boats.

01:42:05.000 And it was always Tom Moore, Thomas Moore was two terms chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:42:11.000 He's the one that got Me and the first one I talked to in 1974.

01:42:15.000 Yeah, we've interviewed the chairman about ten times.

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 And so the thing that he hammered on was that nobody gave any reason and they could tell that the Liberty was still under attack and what he felt like then and what he still feels like.

01:42:38.000 And he later became head of the Tailhook Organization, but he established something else too.

01:42:43.000 Some people have tried to cloud the issue saying that the United States was sending planes to nuke Cairo and damage the Arab thing.

01:42:52.000 It's an absolute farce because there is no military reason to do so.

01:42:57.000 We certainly didn't want Well, I've talked to the admirals and people.

01:43:02.000 I mean, they launched the jets to defend, and LBJ called up and said, turn them around.

01:43:06.000 Yeah, in fact, the carrier division commander, Larry Geiss, refused it.

01:43:10.000 And then McNamara got on the phone, and he still refused it.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, I talked to him, yeah.

01:43:16.000 Yeah, and uh... And then LBJ comes on the phone!

01:43:20.000 And he comes on the phone, he says he doesn't care if the ship sinks and they lose all hands.

01:43:25.000 They're not going to go to war against an ally.

01:43:27.000 And insisted on the recall of those planes while the American ship is still under attack.

01:43:32.000 It's absolutely outrageous, and the other thing is that then the United States accepted at face value that the Liberty Alliance is attacking the Board of Inquiry report N67.

01:43:49.000 Let me just give you this quickly.

01:43:54.000 And two of our people are Navy JAG officers.

01:43:58.000 One of them, Admiral Merlin, starring three years after the attack on Liberty, was the Judge Advocate General of the U.S.

01:44:06.000 Navy.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, we interviewed him.

01:44:08.000 Yes, and he's the one who, he comes out to my office one day a week.

01:44:12.000 He's 86 years old, and it's 100 miles each way from Bowie, Maryland, where he lives.

01:44:18.000 And so we have a really good team.

01:44:20.000 Then there's also General Max Halliday.

01:44:23.000 uh... who's a marine general and uh... for five years was the top uh... uh... marine uh... uh... lawyer so let me ask you this question up i'm gonna get this out because what we can do We're running out of time here.

01:44:37.000 We have had neocons and others get on TV, bad-mouthed you guys, bad-mouthed Congressional Medal of Honor winners, folks.

01:44:45.000 We've had them, huge books, hit pieces written about you, and that's backfired, hasn't it?

01:44:50.000 That's caused more brass to go public, more victims to go public.

01:44:55.000 I mean, it's outrageous to attack the victims in this fashion.

01:44:59.000 Can I get a comment from Dr. Richard Kiefer on that, and then one from Tito?

01:45:02.000 Doctor, can you comment on that?

01:45:05.000 Yeah, well, many of the people have repeated the threat that if you go public with that, you will go to prison or worse.

01:45:18.000 On the other hand, within two weeks, I was at the headquarters of Allied Forces Mediterranean, was asked a question by one of the foreign officers, I looked at the American Vice Admiral who was in charge, and you know, should I answer?

01:45:38.000 And he said, yeah.

01:45:42.000 So I did, and I, best of my recollection, have not been shot, have not gone to prison, and I wonder how seriously that don't talk about this Well, I mean, the people giving these orders obviously felt sick at their stomachs.

01:46:03.000 And again, they threatened these men, folks.

01:46:05.000 While they're still in cots on board the ships, you will go to prison or worse. 0.98

01:46:09.000 If you tell anybody what happened, here's your medal in secret, now shut up! 0.91

01:46:13.000 And then you guys had to sit around while the media bad-mouthed you years later. 0.63

01:46:17.000 That's now caused you to go public.

01:46:19.000 And are you ever going to get in the repercussions?

01:46:23.000 I mean, is anybody going to get in trouble for trying to murder you guys and murdering a bunch of you?

01:46:29.000 Apparently not.

01:46:31.000 Now the Board of Inquiry said that they wanted to spend several months on preparing their report and wanted to go to Israel to interview the people who actually performed the attack and the people who gave the orders.

01:46:54.000 They were ordered by the American Navy Not to go to Israel.

01:47:02.000 So now let's fast forward, sir.

01:47:04.000 You know, books have been written, news articles have been written, demonizing the Liberty Committee and the Liberty Alliance and others.

01:47:11.000 I mean, can you comment on these unsavory individuals?

01:47:18.000 Well, I think you just did.

01:47:21.000 They're unsavory.

01:47:23.000 They have an agenda.

01:47:27.000 Truth is not really their highest concern or regard.

01:47:33.000 And that they are people who are handing to their own audience.

01:47:42.000 And the more you can say about people who are trying to get the truth out.

01:47:53.000 Now there's I think a misconception at this point that the Liberty Alliance veterans are going after the Israelis for doing it.

01:48:08.000 There's no question that they did it.

01:48:12.000 As you said, it's been admitted.

01:48:14.000 The people that have not admitted this are the people in the U.S.

01:48:19.000 government.

01:48:19.000 Exactly!

01:48:20.000 That's the bigger area.

01:48:22.000 I agree with you, Doctor, and that's what I've always said.

01:48:24.000 People go, well, I blame Israel.

01:48:26.000 Well, I blame them, too, but, you know, do you blame the capo that carries out the hit, or do you blame the mob boss?

01:48:32.000 I mean, we're going after Capone here.

01:48:34.000 This was all set up, folks.

01:48:36.000 There's no other way to look at it.

01:48:37.000 It's premeditated to sink it and blame it on people.

01:48:40.000 It's like the USS Maine, but with people on board.

01:48:44.000 And they do this, you know, they pull this trick, government-sponsored terror is what it's called, folks, time and time again, and it's time to see through this dog-and-pony show.

01:48:52.000 But you know what, gentlemen?

01:48:53.000 I think it's blown up in their face, pun intended.

01:48:56.000 I mean, now this is a... Yes.

01:49:00.000 The thing, another important thing to remember is that the people on the Liberty didn't know who was attacking them.

01:49:10.000 The only time, as far as I know, that the Israeli military has used unmarked planes in an attack, and if the Liberty people didn't know that they were Israelis, how did Washington know they were Israelis?

01:49:26.000 In order to cover up, I think it was a predetermined, and it was a plot from the beginning, with people in our government and their government.

01:49:35.000 Yeah, it's called Operation Northwoods.

01:49:37.000 Gentlemen, please stay with us.

01:49:40.000 Um, oh yeah, it's in Northwoods to blow up a ship with our people and blame it on, uh, folks.

01:49:45.000 You don't become the Soviets to fight the Soviets.

01:49:47.000 You don't kill our men.

01:49:49.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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01:52:49.000 The End.

01:53:13.000 And the declassified documents where Roosevelt ordered 7,400 and something civilians not to be rescued, ordered the Navy and the Marines to not let them leave, ordered MacArthur not to let them leave, and he internally says in notes, this will be great for the newsreels, the Japanese capturing men and women and children.

01:53:33.000 And 4,000 plus died.

01:53:35.000 Being raped, being tortured, having their heads chopped off. 0.98

01:53:37.000 The Japanese, I mean the Nazis, Statistically, look, tame were the numbers of prisoners they would kill. 0.99

01:53:46.000 I mean, that is, normally over half of them would be tortured and killed.

01:53:50.000 I mean, they just see you as subhuman if you've been captured.

01:53:53.000 And so 7,000 men, women, and children meant nothing to these people.

01:53:57.000 See, that shows how ruthless, how ruthless they are.

01:54:01.000 And so they've got this ship just full of, you know, top officers and sailors, you know, a cream ship, a surveillance ship, Full of, you know, some of the best personnel and they attack it and attack it and attack it and attack it. 0.74

01:54:16.000 I want to try to just hold our guests five minutes over to the next hour.

01:54:18.000 You guys will be off in ten minutes but I want to push our other guests back five minutes just so we have a little bit more time to talk.

01:54:23.000 I hope folks will go to infowars.com and get Loss of Liberty on VHS or DVD that Tito Howard produced.

01:54:31.000 And it's got so many, you know, Joint Chiefs of Staff people and admirals and victims and people that were on this ship.

01:54:37.000 Great film now on DVD.

01:54:39.000 We offer it at www.infowars.com.

01:54:41.000 And I hope you'll call and get a copy of Loss of Liberty as well.

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01:54:50.000 Because if they can do it to these guys, they can do it to anybody.

01:54:53.000 And none of us are safe.

01:54:54.000 And these are real heroes, folks.

01:54:56.000 I mean, the valor of this ship.

01:54:58.000 Most highly decorated ship in U.S.

01:54:59.000 history. 0.95

01:55:00.000 Being demonized by a bunch of sick neocons to this day. 0.97

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01:55:08.000 Her only duty going above and beyond the call of duty.

01:55:12.000 And so many killed.

01:55:14.000 Splattered all over the decks.

01:55:15.000 The good doctor with a bullet wound and shrapnel and parts of him hanging out and broken kneecap.

01:55:21.000 You know, others.

01:55:22.000 The captain.

01:55:23.000 The captain was torn up so badly.

01:55:24.000 And then all the attacks on these men.

01:55:27.000 All the attacks on these heroes.

01:55:30.000 Those highly decorated ships.

01:55:31.000 It's despicable!

01:55:33.000 And I'm sick of it.

01:55:35.000 Dr. Richard Kiefer, any key points?

01:55:37.000 Anything you want to talk about?

01:55:39.000 Tito, anything you want to talk about?

01:55:41.000 Anything we haven't covered yet?

01:55:42.000 Yeah, well let's give the doctor a shot. 0.81

01:55:44.000 If I have some time, I'll see.

01:55:46.000 We'll have some.

01:55:46.000 We'll take five more minutes in the next hour.

01:55:48.000 Go ahead, doctor.

01:55:49.000 Okay, I think one of the things to bring up is that this was, well, a few days' war.

01:55:58.000 On the first day, the Egyptian aircraft were destroyed.

01:56:03.000 The tank crews were destroyed.

01:56:08.000 Almost down to nothing.

01:56:11.000 Then they take their whole best items, their heavy bombers, torpedo boats, and go after an American ship that was built in 1944 as a victory hull.

01:56:30.000 With ships that were going to fall apart in heavy weather.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, they actually just welded those together.

01:56:37.000 They would just break in two.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 They called them coffin ships, didn't they?

01:56:43.000 Yes.

01:56:45.000 But the Israelis found that you can do all that to the Egyptian Tank Corps, the Jordanian Air Force, the Egyptian Air Force, the Syrian forces, period. 0.60

01:57:03.000 But given one of the oldest, least defended members of the American fleet, they couldn't think that.

01:57:12.000 I think that that suggests that, compared to the others, the American Navy was just another breed of cat.

01:57:18.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:57:19.000 Well, back when we were real red-blooded Americans, now we're a bunch of drooling neocons.

01:57:23.000 Look, you can't keep a comment against people in the right, folks.

01:57:27.000 And I believe it was a Providence, just like George Washington experienced.

01:57:31.000 We'll be right back.

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01:57:38.000 877-376-45 Hello Big Brother Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:10.000 Folks, the USS Lexington had multiple kamikaze attacks, magazines exploding.

01:58:18.000 But I've read Naval history and they're saying that the USS Liberty even sustained more per capita damage than the Lexington or the Grey Ghost.

01:58:27.000 I mean 800 and something rocket holes, white phosphorus bombs, thousands of .50 caliber holes, a 30-something foot giant torpedo hole.

01:58:36.000 How?

01:58:36.000 And then we've got five minutes left, enough for Dr. Richard Keefer, one of the survivors, to finish up and then Hito Howard, the filmmaker, to finish up.

01:58:44.000 And then we've got some other important guests coming up about another hero that was killed.

01:58:49.000 Deputy Director John O'Neill, we're trying to expose the truth of 9-11, even before it happened.

01:58:56.000 But how?

01:58:57.000 You're talking about a different breed of cat, absolutely.

01:59:00.000 These odds almost put the Alamo to shame.

01:59:05.000 How were you able to keep that ship floating?

01:59:08.000 I read the reports of people just staying at their stations, grabbing red-hot doors and keeping them shut.

01:59:14.000 How did you guys do that?

01:59:17.000 Well, under another engagement, the comment was made that uncommon valor was a common occurrence.

01:59:25.000 And it was just fortunate that we had someone with the experience of our chief engineer, George Golden, who was able to shift ballast to keep the ship bed close to upright.

01:59:41.000 The ship immediately tilted, if I remember the number, 13 degrees.

01:59:48.000 To the starboard side and Golden moved ballast to the port side to at least cut in half the list that the ship had.

02:00:06.000 Now I know a lot of people died but most were wounded but most of the wounded didn't stay at their posts though?

02:00:15.000 As long as they could.

02:00:20.000 Well, it's just, you know, arrogant people shoot their mouths off and say, God can't sink this ship and it sinks on it's maiden voyage, the Titanic.

02:00:27.000 But then, I would imagine you guys were praying to God while all this was happening, too.

02:00:32.000 Yes.

02:00:33.000 And at one point, I faced the choice of whether going to find a convenient corner of sickbay to hide in.

02:00:45.000 And the thought came that, well, I may be explaining myself to St.

02:00:50.000 Peter sometime this afternoon.

02:00:53.000 And I really don't want to have to answer the question of why was I hiding when my men, to whom I had sworn the oath, when they needed me.

02:01:06.000 Now that instinct comes up in all of us, but you grappled with it and pushed it down and I would imagine then you burgeoned with strength after you made that decision, is that correct?

02:01:17.000 That's how it always is.

02:01:18.000 Tito, closing here.

02:01:20.000 We've got about a minute left.

02:01:21.000 I want to thank you and Dr. Kiefer for coming on.

02:01:24.000 I want to get both of you back on.

02:01:25.000 You're a hero making this film.

02:01:26.000 You're an even greater hero, Dr. Kiefer, for everything you've done, and God bless you.

02:01:30.000 Closing comments, Tito?

02:01:32.000 I'd just like to say that it's an absolute miracle that the ship survived.

02:01:37.000 Not only did the entire crew do heroic efforts and things,

02:01:45.000 The captain and the guy on the helm, his name was Brownie, we were able to have five of these torpedoes miss, which is amazing with a 460 foot long ship, and having three of them, because you can do like a pattern kind of thing, but the miracle part of it is, the torpedo, when it hit,

02:02:09.000 Uh, it hit one of the ribs that hold the hull together, so the torpedo did not enter into the hull of the ship, which it would have broken the ship in half, and we wouldn't be talking to Dr. Hitcher or any of them.

02:02:22.000 It just blew out big holes on both sides.

02:02:24.000 No, not on both sides, just on the starboard side.

02:02:28.000 And, uh, but it was a 40 by 42 foot hole.

02:02:31.000 Unbelievable.

02:02:32.000 Well, Dr. Kiefer, uh, Tito Howard, both of you, thank you for coming on, gentlemen.

02:02:36.000 Thank you for inviting us.

02:02:37.000 Our pleasure.

02:02:38.000 Take care, Tito.

02:02:39.000 Take care, Dr. Kiefer.

02:02:40.000 God bless.

02:02:41.000 We'll be back and talk about another hero.

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02:06:02.000 One of the reasons that I went on air two months before 9-11 And said, call the White House, they're gonna use Bin Laden as their CIA, Al-CIA to Patsy to take the blame for attacking the World Trade Center. 0.73

02:06:15.000 The FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver the first time, carried out the bombing, but the people they hired were both mentally retarded, and so they didn't park it up against the column like the FBI informant had instructed them to. 0.94

02:06:29.000 So they were unable to destroy the building and so only, what, nine people died and several thousand were, got smoke inhalation, which is still very serious.

02:06:36.000 One death is serious.

02:06:39.000 And there were a hundred other little indicators.

02:06:42.000 The government gearing up, demonizing Bin Laden, you know, kind of introducing him to the public again, right before 9-11, just all this stuff.

02:06:49.000 Bush massing troops into Zikustan, Uzbekistan, we already knew about that at the time.

02:06:54.000 And I saw articles in the London Independent and The Guardian and stuff mentioning O'Neill.

02:06:59.000 O'Neill had just quit three or four months before 9-11 and then two months before he went public and said, this is a quote, the federal government is going to allow an attack by Bin Laden, he didn't have the whole picture, on the World Trade Centers as an excuse to go into Afghanistan and get their oil.

02:07:19.000 I actually have one of the articles here, I'm paraphrasing it.

02:07:24.000 So, this is from the grave, and then he gets hired.

02:07:28.000 Marvin Bush, the president's little brother, little Bubba, he had for two years the contract, he was in New York that morning, on it, but they'd given the contract up a few months before, and the contract was going to end September 10th, his last day at work would be September 11th.

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02:07:56.000 You ask my source?

02:07:57.000 Well, a bunch of newspapers picked up on it after she admitted it, but it's the First Lady. 1.00

02:08:01.000 I don't know if you can trust her, but Marvin was there, quote, stuck in a subway under it as it all happened, but luckily no liability because they no longer had security.

02:08:11.000 They had given the plum deal to John O'Neill, who'd quit in disgust, and he'd been given the job and supposedly died in the building that day, and at first they said they found his uncharged body, and they said, oh, they never found his body, and then they said, so pick a story, any story.

02:08:26.000 Pick whatever you want.

02:08:27.000 They put out a bunch of different stories, but he died conveniently.

02:08:30.000 Like any other secret service that blew the whistle, they would get killed and thrown into the rubble, too.

02:08:36.000 This is what happened.

02:08:37.000 But Greg Zemensky, who's one of the most prolific writers out there on the web today, joins us along with Janet Parker, who was friends with John O'Neill, who was killed on 9-11.

02:08:49.000 Of course, it's all coming out now about how the Army had the documents on Al-Qaeda and was ordered to stop.

02:08:54.000 That's really old news, folks.

02:08:57.000 Bush signed W1999, ordering the CIA and others to leave AQ Khan alone, handing out nuclear weapons components like hotcakes. 0.67

02:09:08.000 That's now come out again that the CIA, when he got arrested, ordered him released and going back 20 years ago.

02:09:13.000 And just right up to 9-11 and then after.

02:09:15.000 This is their proliferator.

02:09:17.000 They've got to proliferate or they're going to have wars. 1.00

02:09:18.000 They've got to have threats.

02:09:19.000 It's like our government giving all the weapons, you know, the nuclear subcomponents and nuke components, and then burning the innocent people and executing them, when our own government now admits they gave this to the Russians. 0.77

02:09:31.000 They gave it to the Communist Chinese.

02:09:33.000 You've got to build up enemies to have this war economy.

02:09:37.000 And to have control.

02:09:38.000 So it's the same thing over and over again.

02:09:41.000 It's like the head bomber in 7-7 and 7-21.

02:09:42.000 Admit it.

02:09:46.000 This Rasheed Aswad guy admitted MI6 agent.

02:09:50.000 And it's just despicable.

02:09:52.000 But with some new developments, with somebody that was good friends, she's a doctor, veterinarian, friends with Mr. O'Neill.

02:10:00.000 She joins us, so Janet Parker and Greg Zemensky, thanks for coming on.

02:10:04.000 Greg, you know her, you've interviewed her, why don't you introduce Mrs. Parker for us and tell us about her story and then let's get some comments from her.

02:10:13.000 Okay, Janet Parker, this is a very interesting and I think a very important story because It lays to rest any doubts that anybody may have that John O'Neill wasn't on to something regarding 9-11 and that the FBI knew about it.

02:10:26.000 Well, he said they're going to let Bin Laden attack.

02:10:28.000 I mean, what does that mean?

02:10:30.000 And then they shut him down.

02:10:32.000 Well, Janet is someone that has known John and has worked as an informant, unofficial informant for him, dating back to the 1980s, meeting him in the 70s.

02:10:42.000 So their relationship has gone on for almost 30 years.

02:10:45.000 So this is not someone that just knew John O'Neill In passing, during the months prior to 9-11, I think it's important because Janet talks about, and finally has never come forward before publicly with this story, about how her and John were communicating many, many times during those months and many times right before 9-11 on a cell that she had uncovered, an al-Qaeda cell that she had uncovered.

02:11:14.000 Regarding a man that she will mention his name and tell you all about.

02:11:18.000 Well, we have Rashid Swat out in Seattle and other areas.

02:11:23.000 And when FBI wanted to bust him, they said, and also in Oregon, the higher-ups said, no, no, no.

02:11:28.000 I mean, is that the same?

02:11:29.000 I'm just... No, it's a different person named Shadrach, and it's a man, a fella.

02:11:34.000 She'll pronounce it a little better than I can, but she will...

02:11:38.000 Basically, and she's here today to tell this story that's never really been told before, to really show your listeners what John O'Neill had, what she had.

02:11:46.000 In fact, she was even working, talking to these people for John to get them to spill the goods and to try to figure out what was going on on September 11th.

02:11:56.000 The last time she talked to John O'Neill was September 8th.

02:11:59.000 And I think once you question her and once Janet tells her story, you will be shocked at what the FBI did to her, how they shut down O'Neal, and Janet's there right now, I think.

02:12:10.000 Alright, absolutely.

02:12:12.000 And again, Janet Parker, Seattle veterinarian and longtime friend and informant of O'Neal, Janet Parker, 53, said O'Neal was stopped by his bosses only months prior to 9-11 from getting a wiretap on a major cell leader, Chad Rack, Manny Falol, I guess, who had close ties to Ali Mohammed, a suspected CIA double operative, and Mohammed Adda, the alleged 9-11 ringleader.

02:12:37.000 There's always CIA double operatives in Al-Qaeda.

02:12:41.000 Janet, thank you so much for coming on with us and for your courage.

02:12:45.000 Hi, how are you doing?

02:12:47.000 Good.

02:12:47.000 Just tell us about when you first met Mr. O'Neill and then please go through in those final months before he died on 9-11 what he told you.

02:12:55.000 Well, I actually met John many, many years ago when I was very young.

02:13:00.000 And he was not yet an FBI agent.

02:13:04.000 And so we had a knowledge of each other prior to him becoming an agent.

02:13:10.000 So you guys were real good friends?

02:13:13.000 Well, I would say we had knowledge of each other and then lost contact with each other.

02:13:18.000 He went on to become a FBI agent.

02:13:22.000 Uh, and he came back into my life when I saw some activity that was questionable in regards to, um, an Iranian suspect, uh, in 1987.

02:13:34.000 All right.

02:13:35.000 Well, uh, I mean, please just elaborate then on the chain of events leading up to his tragic death.

02:13:43.000 Well, um, John was watching activities of, uh, persons that were related to terrorism.

02:13:52.000 He had been investigating the USS Cole attack in Yemen and as a result of that he had been watching the money transfers, the money laundering, money for tourism transfers.

02:14:06.000 That was at the port of Aden in Yemen, what was that in 2000?

02:14:10.000 Yes, he had been actually on site in Yemen doing that and as a result of that he had He always watched the connections between bank accounts and people and tied that into Cell Intercepts, the intelligence community, not only in the United States but also with his partners in England, France and Germany specifically.

02:14:39.000 And he was watching a particular group and this group was in contact With drug runners that were running drugs into the east coast of the United States.

02:14:52.000 Well, that's the same thing Sybil Edmonds has been talking about.

02:14:55.000 Yes.

02:14:56.000 And these particular terrorist suspects were involved in asking for prostitution services from their drug dealing contacts.

02:15:14.000 And that's the story, that's where I get involved in this situation because they were dragging young girls from Vermont State down to New York City to prostitute them, and these were minor children. 0.98

02:15:32.000 Well, you always find that when you get into these scumbags, and the Saudis are really big into it. 1.00

02:15:37.000 The child kidnapping rings and the rest of it. 0.96

02:15:39.000 We've aired some congressional testimony on that with DynCorp involved, and our government's up to it in their eyeballs, but please continue.

02:15:47.000 And this particular drug ring was transmitting minor children who were actually aboard to the state of Vermont across state lines.

02:15:57.000 So as usual, it's the CPS-grabbed kids, or Right.

02:16:01.000 God help us, it's always the same.

02:16:03.000 And because of that, that became a federal case of course.

02:16:07.000 And so FBI was involved in investigating that.

02:16:11.000 Several girls were murdered.

02:16:14.000 And my connection with this is that I had a foster daughter who was in that system.

02:16:20.000 A previous foster daughter who was in that system.

02:16:24.000 And she became very alarmed for concerns for her safety.

02:16:29.000 And approached me to get her a plane ticket to get her out. 0.99

02:16:33.000 And as I sent her a ticket, she came to visit me, spent some time with me, made some phone calls back and forth.

02:16:41.000 And after I sent her back to Vermont State, my foster daughter's contact had come up on John's radar screen because she had been in contact with a terrorist suspect.

02:16:57.000 Alright, so then you start talking to John again.

02:16:59.000 What did John tell you?

02:17:02.000 John told me that it was very crucial that he be able to know everything that they did and everything I might possibly know about their behavior.

02:17:13.000 And so I started giving him information that I was getting from my foster daughter.

02:17:20.000 Alright, stay there.

02:17:21.000 We'll be right back with a personal friend of John O'Neill.

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02:22:05.000 Headline, close informant, a friend, a former FBI agent, John O'Neill, killed a 9-11, tells our FBI higher-ups shut him down, letting 9-1-1 happen by Greg Zeminski up on Infowars.com and a lot of other places.

02:22:21.000 ArcticBeacon.com, you name it.

02:22:23.000 But to boil this down, she was friends with O'Neal, local veterinarian.

02:22:28.000 Then later, when O'Neal was working out in Seattle, she did some informant work for him.

02:22:33.000 Then years later, she gets back in contact with him, because through one of her foster daughters, getting into this whole labyrinth of this stuff going on on the East Coast.

02:22:43.000 And Greg, why don't you Boil this down for people, because you did call up friends and family of O'Neal and confirm that she wasn't informant, was friends with him.

02:22:53.000 This is all confirmed, too, for folks that are tuning in.

02:22:57.000 Plus, O'Neal was on record in major newspapers saying, quote, they're going to let bin Laden attack as a pretext to get the oil in Afghanistan.

02:23:08.000 Well, it's a lot deeper than that, folks, but O'Neal had really woken up to what was happening.

02:23:13.000 That's on record.

02:23:14.000 New Yorker Magazine, you name it.

02:23:16.000 But, boil it down for us, Greg.

02:23:19.000 Well, I think the important thing, and I'll ask Janet a question or two about this, but the important thing is that the contact that they had made, O'Neal and Janet, to this group of this cell working out of the East Coast, headed by Shadrach, was something that John and her were working on very close to 9-11 in the months July and August before that.

02:23:43.000 And this is the kind of the story that I wanted Janet to get into those couple months right before and to talk about what John was saying back and forth to you Janet about how he was being shut down by the FBI and how they were shutting down this wiretap on what Shadrach was doing and involved in transfers from two things conversations that you heard that a certain type of communication equipment was being transferred from Canada

02:24:10.000 Uh, which had something to do with 9-11 and then also the other conversations that you heard regarding the possibility of airplanes and the attack on 9-11 and the conversations you had in the last two months with John.

02:24:24.000 Putting aside how you got involved with this group, because it is rather complicated and something that... It's funny though, this is exactly what Civil Weapons is saying.

02:24:33.000 You know, money laundering, trafficking in humans, C.I.A., all of this.

02:24:40.000 You see, Janet's foster daughter, she had lost contact with her because of the problems that she was having with her and her family.

02:24:48.000 Her foster daughter's family was a drug-running family. 0.79

02:24:51.000 Well, they ended up selling Her foster daughter, who was no longer living with her at the time, cut ties to Shadrach in his Al Qaeda cell as a payoff.

02:25:02.000 And so basically, O'Neal was asking if she could get information using the daughter's connection, and basically her daughter putting her in contact with Shadrach.

02:25:15.000 So this is basically what I'd like Janet to mention.

02:25:17.000 Yeah, go over what O'Neal was telling you specifically.

02:25:22.000 Well, what happened when my daughter came out to visit is she utilized my telephone for purposes of contacting her friends back on the East Coast, her family back on the East Coast, and also her lover, Shadrach.

02:25:38.000 And I would point out that although the original arrangement with Shadrach was something prearranged by her drug dealing family, Became very fond of Shaq.

02:25:53.000 Okay, so Neil's using that connection.

02:25:54.000 Please, please tell us what O'Neal told you, please.

02:25:56.000 So, um, so O'Neal ran the telephone calls and realized they were connected to members of suspects who were directly associated with the money for the USS Cole attack and the U.S.

02:26:15.000 Embassy attacks in Kenya and Tanzania.

02:26:18.000 And this made this a very high-level investigation from his standpoint.

02:26:18.000 Wow.

02:26:25.000 He contacted me.

02:26:27.000 We already had the existing understanding and relationship with each other, one that was built over years and years and involved quite a bit of trust that I had in him.

02:26:40.000 And he requested that I be willing to allow him to do a wiretap.

02:26:47.000 He was receiving information through cooperative efforts with the cell in France and the cell of the intelligence agency in France and the intelligence agency in Germany in regards to wiretaps that were related to Shadrach's activities.

02:27:05.000 And Chad Rack had visited both those places in regards to transferring money and transferring instructions.

02:27:12.000 We're going to talk about that and then talk of airplanes in the buildings and all of it.

02:27:17.000 And on the other side, folks, stay with us.

02:27:21.000 We're talking to Greg Zemensky, prolific researcher, journalist, and of course, local veterinarian and a friend of John O'Neill.

02:27:28.000 We'll continue with Janet Parker on the other side. 0.98

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02:31:16.000 We're talking to a lady who's got a lot of courage. 0.98

02:31:19.000 A very credible story, it's been checked out and double checked and it fits in with all the other info and witnesses and what John O'Neill has said on the record.

02:31:27.000 These international crime rings, that's all these Al-Qaeda really is, is a bunch of drug dealing thugs that work for criminal elements of our, of Western intelligence. 0.80

02:31:36.000 And this is what they operate in, this is what they, they just found the bombers in London.

02:31:40.000 You know, drug dealing, trafficking in women, MI6 agents.

02:31:46.000 They're just criminal operatives, folks.

02:31:48.000 And, uh, they create the trail and the military industrial complex carries out the attacks.

02:31:54.000 But, uh, they're just decoys or drones.

02:31:56.000 We're talking to, uh, Janet Parker, friends with John O'Neill.

02:32:00.000 And we're talking about what he told her during this investigation that she was assisting with through her stepdaughter coming up in the last months before September 11, 2001, coming up on four years ago.

02:32:12.000 So four years ago, all this was going on right now on the eve of these attacks.

02:32:16.000 Tell us what else John O'Neill was telling you and what you were hearing on these tapes being recorded from your house via the stepdaughter.

02:32:25.000 Please tell us all about it.

02:32:29.000 John wanted to encourage me to be in contact with them so that he could catch things because I was willing to give him permission for wiretaps.

02:32:40.000 That's right, because he couldn't get the federal government to give him wiretaps on them.

02:32:45.000 Right.

02:32:45.000 Now, let's make that clear.

02:32:47.000 This was in the news, by the way, folks.

02:32:48.000 He was not allowed to ever get wiretaps when people were saying, I'm going to crash planes in the buildings, I'm not going to take off or land.

02:32:55.000 And, nope, can't have a wiretap.

02:32:57.000 You know, O'Neal can't have it.

02:33:00.000 Robert Wright can't have it.

02:33:02.000 None of you FBI agents can have it.

02:33:04.000 Even if you're a deputy director over terrorism, you can't have it.

02:33:07.000 When we know these are terrorists, or we know these are operatives, can't have it.

02:33:12.000 So he was sneakily kind of going through you.

02:33:15.000 Well, he thought that he could get a wiretap because I was willing and willing to get permission.

02:33:20.000 I mean, he didn't have to do it, you know, through FISA.

02:33:24.000 I was willing to sign on to allow... Exactly.

02:33:27.000 This is a voluntary deal.

02:33:28.000 Go ahead.

02:33:29.000 Right.

02:33:30.000 And I always cooperated fully with... Now, think about this.

02:33:33.000 He can't get a wiretap through the FISA court because they're in control of LCIA.

02:33:38.000 He's got to go and do it through an old-time friend he can trust who's tied into the investigation.

02:33:44.000 Go ahead.

02:33:45.000 And he wasn't able to really do that, so his next move was, if you know two points of contact and you have a CALEA-compliant system in regards to your phone communications, then he can pull that from any place, a node that he can bounce it into, and they can choose to bounce it anywhere they want.

02:34:06.000 And some of these phone calls are coming from international sources.

02:34:09.000 And so therefore, because of cooperation with France, and cooperation with German intelligence authorities gone through his very extensive uh... uh... gotta be clear when the NSA cannot get a authorization domestically they just have the British do it for them.

02:34:28.000 Right.

02:34:28.000 Yes, that's an old rule.

02:34:29.000 Go ahead.

02:34:30.000 Right, and so and then he could get the information from his intelligence partners overseas.

02:34:37.000 And they were working much more aggressively against these Al-Qaeda members than the U.S.

02:34:43.000 intelligence was allowed to do.

02:34:45.000 I can't... I need to point out there are many, many good agents in intelligence, honest and hard-working agents.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, they're compartmentalized though.

02:34:53.000 Who were thwarted in their efforts and were not listened to, both CIA and FBI, and also military intelligence, I just wanted to point out.

02:35:02.000 And this is all now coming out even in the New York Times.

02:35:05.000 Right, and I want to commend those good quality agents. 0.69

02:35:11.000 But John wanted to get this information, so he approached, he asked me what languages we needed.

02:35:19.000 He was having trouble getting things translated.

02:35:23.000 They had an A, B, C list.

02:35:27.000 So the A things get translated first, the B things probably don't get translated, and C things never get translated.

02:35:33.000 So when things get into the list they get put in a priority system and he told me he was having trouble getting things translated that were even on the A list.

02:35:42.000 And getting 24-7 translation of ongoing wiretap conversations is nigh on impossible.

02:35:48.000 So basically they were totally stonewalling him.

02:35:51.000 He's one of the heads of intelligence.

02:35:54.000 And they're not giving him anything.

02:35:56.000 I mean, he went public with this.

02:35:59.000 That's why he quit.

02:35:59.000 I mean, he wasn't allowed to do anything, to get anything.

02:36:03.000 He had total probable cause, direct links to the bombers of the coal, but he was being blocked.

02:36:11.000 Yes, that's true.

02:36:12.000 And then he quit and said all of this and got totally ignored and then killed.

02:36:16.000 But now Greg Zemensky will come in and comment.

02:36:20.000 Oh, I just had a question.

02:36:21.000 I just wanted to add to you guys right here.

02:36:23.000 And Jenna, tell the listeners what he told you regarding what they did to his files in July when he was in his depressed state.

02:36:30.000 What they were doing to him back at headquarters and why he was so depressed.

02:36:34.000 Well, one of the things he wanted to do when he realized that I could assist him and was willing to, and of course you have to understand I was I was also concerned about my safety and that of my daughter, and that was not an unjustified fear, I would point out.

02:36:49.000 He had asked me to be on the phone with Shadrach, and my daughter actually placed Shadrach on the phone with me.

02:37:06.000 He approached me in a manner of trust because I was my foster daughter's basically a parent figure for her.

02:37:16.000 She and I had a good relationship and she was trusting.

02:37:19.000 So you talked to Shadrach.

02:37:20.000 What did he tell you when you were talking to him?

02:37:22.000 Shadrach wanted me to assist and cooperate with Brooke.

02:37:27.000 I think he wanted to have Brooke, excuse me, Patty be on He wanted her to be involved with me and stay at my home and potentially... Wasn't he trying to even solicit you into the organization? 0.72

02:37:52.000 Yes, he was.

02:37:53.000 Didn't he try to marry you off to one of his other partners there?

02:37:57.000 He told me that I shouldn't be unmarried, that I should get married to one of his And what about O'Neal's files, his own files?

02:38:06.000 Remember when he was despondent?

02:38:08.000 You were telling me he had his files destroyed by our own FBI.

02:38:12.000 I don't know who destroyed the files, but he came back to me and told me that the tapes of the conversations that he had gotten copies of, that I believe he must have gotten through his other intelligence contacts overseas.

02:38:33.000 And you said he was even going to France because he was getting no cooperation with our FBI.

02:38:36.000 Yeah, and he said that they were erased.

02:38:39.000 His files were messed with.

02:38:40.000 Things were erased from his files.

02:38:42.000 He was very angry.

02:38:47.000 Years ago, you know, the headline, FBI agents thought Al-Qaeda had moles in organization.

02:38:53.000 No, you've got it backwards, folks.

02:38:54.000 The globalists are controlling Al-Cieda.

02:38:58.000 And so, yes, I was aware that O'Neill did have some of his stuff destroyed, but that's... Now we have it directly from someone who heard it directly from John O'Neill.

02:39:05.000 I mean, who did he think had destroyed his files?

02:39:09.000 Well, there were several things going on in the FBI that We need to, you know, historically, and one of the things that was going on... Did he say how they destroyed it?

02:39:17.000 Were they electronic tapes?

02:39:18.000 Have they been degaussed, or been wiped by an electromagnetic wand?

02:39:25.000 Some of these were digital files, so they were in computer systems.

02:39:30.000 Was the computer physically fried, or was it just erased?

02:39:33.000 I'm not sure.

02:39:34.000 He didn't say that.

02:39:34.000 that okay he had we had all have been dealing with for quite some time the possibility of a mole that was interfering with John's general work and that was a long-term concern of ours and and dates back almost 10 years and

02:39:54.000 And in the beginning of January, February 2001, the FBI realized that they had a mole who was compromising a lot of their I thought of their contacts.

02:40:10.000 Enough agents complained that they had to act like they were going after the mole.

02:40:18.000 Well actually they found Robert Hanson who was an FBI agent.

02:40:22.000 But I'm saying that's the tip of the iceberg.

02:40:24.000 That's the tip of the iceberg.

02:40:25.000 Right, but he was in New York and he had been interfering with files of the agents in New York.

02:40:34.000 And so agents in New York were having concerns about the security of their files.

02:40:39.000 John told me that when he started to realize his tapes were being erased, he was backing them up and making copies and trying to secure the evidence in a manner which would not be in the FBI computer system.

02:40:57.000 And he told me that although they had caught someone back in February, which I think is Hanson, He didn't think that was the end of it.

02:41:04.000 He believed it was somebody else.

02:41:05.000 Well, of course!

02:41:06.000 Messing with his files.

02:41:08.000 And someone with very high access.

02:41:10.000 He told me that the way that he secured his files and the level of security he was able to place on his files was high enough that he would be able to prevent most Yeah, we have to point out that O'Neal was extremely senior.

02:41:32.000 He was in the next to highest level of the FBI.

02:41:34.000 I mean, the only thing above him would be director.

02:41:37.000 He told me he was in the running for a position where he would be actually briefing the president.

02:41:43.000 And he was hoping to get that position.

02:41:48.000 But then he didn't get that position.

02:41:50.000 No, his OPR records were leaked to the New Yorker and he was outed as a problem agent in the press.

02:42:01.000 And this was in spite of the fact that John had told me he had been cleared of any major problems and minor incidents.

02:42:12.000 Yeah, they were demonizing him because he was hot on the trail of stopping their LCIA to attack.

02:42:18.000 What did he specifically tell you about flying planes into buildings?

02:42:22.000 Well, when I received a phone call from the Shad Group in February after my foster daughter had gone back to Vermont, I had received a phone call from that included Arabic chanting and stuff about planes and buildings. 0.65

02:42:45.000 And I was very shocked by this phone call.

02:42:49.000 And one of the things that alerted John to my concerns was we had a system by which I dialed a number on my phone to alert him.

02:42:58.000 And he came on the phone and realized that phone call was about that.

02:43:05.000 Now I have read that he literally worked about 18 hours a day, that he was obsessed with not allowing the towers to be attacked.

02:43:13.000 Is that what you experienced talking to him?

02:43:15.000 Oh yeah, he was easily on the phone with me at the early morning hours, considering he was in New York State.

02:43:23.000 And I mean, folks, this is the type of FBI we used to have, the type of police we used to have.

02:43:27.000 I mean, he was tirelessly, you know, like in some Hollywood movie, trying to get the bad guys.

02:43:32.000 Now, a lot of them are just a bunch of mafiosos running around oppressing us, but really, really scary. 0.99

02:43:40.000 So, I mean, I know there's a lot more, but when was the last time you talked to O'Neal before he died?

02:43:50.000 Well, I definitely talked to him on the, I think it was the 8th, um, because I had, my foster daughter was in really severe problems.

02:43:59.000 She was at risk of, uh, uh, being killed by the drug group that she was involved with.

02:44:05.000 It was doing the prostitution with the girls. 1.00

02:44:07.000 Could you speak up for me?

02:44:08.000 That she was in danger and from where she was living in Vermont, uh, members of the, some of the girls had been murdered.

02:44:19.000 And she was terrified for her life, and she actually called me and begged to get a ticket to Seattle. 0.98

02:44:27.000 Yeah, some of these sex of Muslims, not most of them, but especially the Saudi types, killing women is a pleasure. 1.00

02:44:34.000 It's one of their favorite enjoyments. 1.00

02:44:36.000 And, uh, so, you know, very, very dangerous.

02:44:39.000 We're just telling it like it is, folks.

02:44:41.000 You know, last hour, we're exposing Israel for the U.S.' 's liberty. 0.86

02:44:44.000 This hour, we're talking about what some of these Arabs do. 1.00

02:44:46.000 It's despicable. 0.98

02:44:47.000 That's why the globalists love them, because they're so ruthless.

02:44:50.000 But, uh, now John had left the FBI angrily.

02:44:53.000 When he left the FBI, why did he tell you he left the FBI?

02:44:58.000 He told me that he had his hands tied behind his back, that he couldn't do the investigation he wanted to do.

02:45:04.000 And in spite of my willingness to assist him and cooperate and give him permission, even put my life on the line to try to help him, he was unable to go forward.

02:45:16.000 And at one point, after one of the taped wiretaps He, and I was terrified by this phone call.

02:45:25.000 I can't come into how violent it was.

02:45:30.000 He thought that he had enough with just that one tape to get an indictment and he wanted to go to a district attorney he knew well.

02:45:38.000 Now let's be clear about this folks.

02:45:39.000 Let's be clear about this.

02:45:41.000 Days before 9-11.

02:45:44.000 He's left the FBI, but he's still using his sources.

02:45:47.000 No, this was actually in July.

02:45:48.000 Okay, this was in July.

02:45:50.000 July of 2001, before he was no longer an FBI agent.

02:45:54.000 So he was still an FBI agent at this point.

02:45:56.000 This is the final straw then?

02:45:57.000 Yes, this is the final straw. 0.97

02:45:59.000 Okay, I'll shut up. 0.96

02:46:00.000 Go ahead.

02:46:01.000 And he went to them and wanted to get the indictment.

02:46:05.000 He wanted to do an arrest.

02:46:08.000 He felt that he had sufficient evidence to do an arrest, and that's when the tapes disappeared.

02:46:12.000 The digital tapes.

02:46:14.000 Yeah, because they can't have their little Arab preciouses that are about to be part of the attack. 1.00

02:46:18.000 Right.

02:46:19.000 Are being caught before they do arrest.

02:46:20.000 He was told he wasn't allowed to arrest.

02:46:22.000 He was to back off.

02:46:23.000 Didn't you tell me, Janet, that he was relegated, he told you he was relegated to the desk work now?

02:46:28.000 He was taken out of the investigation?

02:46:30.000 Yes.

02:46:31.000 One of the things they did is they took away his travel vouchers and he was going to use travel vouchers to move me to where I needed to be to assist him.

02:46:40.000 Now what about the comments that he told British papers right when he quit that quote, they're going to let Bin Laden attack the towers as a reason to invade Afghanistan.

02:46:50.000 I mean, he said that.

02:46:52.000 Did he ever say that to you specifically?

02:46:55.000 He did tell me that he thought it was tied to oil money and to the Saudi connection.

02:47:01.000 We often didn't talk, we talked more about the specifics of my particular case.

02:47:07.000 So when he finally quit, I mean he just said my hands were tied.

02:47:10.000 Well he said his hands were tied, he was very despondent.

02:47:14.000 They had, he had a very large crew of men working for him after he got this call I think.

02:47:23.000 I think he told me like 350 people on that task force.

02:47:28.000 Or at least connected to it.

02:47:30.000 Oh yeah, he was extremely senior, considered a what kind of intelligence.

02:47:35.000 Yes, and when they brought him back from Yemen and they refused to let him back into the country to continue his investigation, he was devastated by that.

02:47:46.000 Oh that's right, he found out then from the Yemenis that the U.S.

02:47:49.000 government asked them not to do that. 0.99

02:47:52.000 I'd forgotten about that bullshit. 0.98

02:47:54.000 Barbara Bodine had censored him for his effort to try to protect the men. 0.99

02:47:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:48:01.000 Our own government was... Now, this is important.

02:48:04.000 This came out in the news.

02:48:05.000 I forgot about this.

02:48:06.000 Our own government's telling the Yemen, don't let our FBI back in. 0.99

02:48:11.000 I mean, come on, folks.

02:48:13.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:48:14.000 The men at the USS Cole, and there were many very good men at the USS Cole working that intelligence case, We're at great risk in this hostile country working their cases.

02:48:27.000 And at one point there was a situation where they thought they were facing a car bomb or a suicide bomber.

02:48:34.000 And that just highlighted to John how dangerous it was for his men and he wanted a little more militaristic, a little more protective stance.

02:48:42.000 We'll be right back.

02:48:42.000 Stay there.

02:48:43.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:40.000 I just want to say a great job of the crew.

02:51:53.000 I'm with the network today, all of our affiliates out there.

02:51:56.000 God bless you.

02:51:58.000 All the great listeners, the sponsors, and I want to thank Greg Zemensky for his continual, tireless journalistic excellence.

02:52:05.000 And of course, Janet Parker for her just amazing Courage coming on, and of course, Dr. Richard Keefer last hour, one of the heroes of the USS Liberty and filmmaker Tito Howard.

02:52:17.000 Just in closing here, this is just more bolstering what we already knew and adding even more.

02:52:22.000 Pretty big story, you know, the New York Times is talking about defense intelligence being told to back off the investigations by the FBI.

02:52:28.000 I mean, how many witnesses does it take to show this pattern?

02:52:32.000 Greg, bottom line, The evidence is overwhelming.

02:52:36.000 Elements of our government help orchestrate the attacks because they have the motive, total control.

02:52:41.000 Greg, final comments and then final comments from your colleague.

02:52:44.000 Yeah, my final comments are, Janet is a very, very important story in that she shows clearly through data, through evidence that she gives, names, dates, times, last conversations with one of the top Al-Qaeda hunters in our government was shut down by somebody higher up.

02:53:01.000 He hunted Al-Qaeda and he found our government. 0.64

02:53:05.000 Exactly.

02:53:06.000 It was the biggest stumbling block, and Janet has the courage, through many times throughout her, through helping John, put her life on the line.

02:53:14.000 Her life has been threatened, she's almost been killed, and she still is coming forward in defense of John, who she cares about, and in defense of America, and I just applaud her for coming forward.

02:53:27.000 Well, I do too, and I would write a new article and call it, John O'Neal!

02:53:32.000 Intelligence Director of the FBI, or you know, FBI Agent John O'Neill, hunted Al-Qaeda, found Al-C-I-A-D-A.

02:53:41.000 Or Al-F-B-I-A. 1.00

02:53:43.000 Good job, Alex.

02:53:44.000 I'm just being, it's just crazy.

02:53:47.000 Going back to our guest, who does have a lot of courage, Janet Parker, anything in closing you want to say?

02:53:53.000 Well, I guess the most important thing that I found out in regards to working intelligence is, intelligence is really communication between people.

02:54:02.000 No, that's what intelligence boils down to.

02:54:05.000 And a lot of intelligence actually is open source and available generally to everyone.

02:54:12.000 And there's a very small percentage, maybe one or two percent of all intelligence that actually is covert.

02:54:18.000 The important thing about intelligence is you gather the information, you communicate it, and intelligence needs to be analyzed first.

02:54:25.000 And then you present it to decision makers.

02:54:28.000 The purpose of intelligence is to inform decision makers.

02:54:32.000 But if decision makers don't even listen to the intelligence given to them, it doesn't matter how much quality the analysts and field agents have, or even how quality information they have from their informants, if when they present it to the decision makers, the decision makers have another agenda, Or unwilling to listen, or unwilling to gain the cultural and historical perspective.

02:55:00.000 Or controlling Al-Qaeda for an attack, it's not going to do any good.

02:55:03.000 Right.

02:55:04.000 And in closing... And if they have another political agenda...

02:55:07.000 Then the intelligence goes nowhere.

02:55:09.000 Now, we're almost out of time.

02:55:10.000 We've got about a minute left here or less.

02:55:12.000 I just want to thank you for coming on, both of you.

02:55:15.000 And I just want to say that we need to remember John O'Neill, who was a good agent, who did pour his life out trying to save those 2,800 people that died on 9-11.

02:55:24.000 And Janet Parker, thank you for what you're doing, and we'll all pray for you.

02:55:29.000 And if anything happens to you, it'll just bring more attention on this, so folks should keep their dirty mitts off of you, okay?

02:55:36.000 I hope so.

02:55:37.000 All right.

02:55:38.000 I hope to get you back on sometime as this develops.

02:55:40.000 Thank you, Janet.

02:55:41.000 All right.

02:55:42.000 Greg Zemensky, thank you, sir.

02:55:44.000 Thank you.

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