Alex Jones Show - 20050822_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 Alright, we'll be going to your calls early in this first hour.

00:00:29.000 It is Friday, already the 19th day of August 2005.

00:00:35.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:39.000 We've had him on several times in the last few months just because he's a great political mind and has done so much to expose the New World Order's orchestration of September 11th. 0.59

00:00:50.000 Professor David Ray Griffin will be on with us in the second hour for the full hour.

00:00:55.000 Then in the third hour, we haven't had her on probably about a year, Katherine Albrecht of Caspian, of course a doctorate there from Harvard, Exposing the RFID tracker chips, and she's been following, and thank God somebody's paying attention to, Tommy Thompson, the former Health and Human Services Secretary and former Republican Governor from Wisconsin, the cheese eater, the cheese head,

00:01:23.000 Who is running around telling people, get microchips.

00:01:28.000 Going to schools, going on TV, get the chip, it's normal!

00:01:32.000 Just take it, it's so easy.

00:01:34.000 He even clicks his heels and says, get chip today.

00:01:37.000 Their little motto that they've trademarked.

00:01:39.000 So very Mazzaro, very Outer Limits.

00:01:44.000 We're going to detail from transcripts of speeches he's given and transcripts of him on CBS News, I mean, this is bizarre stuff.

00:01:53.000 All the troops need them.

00:01:54.000 All the school children need them.

00:01:56.000 We actually have, you know, big officials, authorities out promoting that we all need the chips.

00:02:04.000 Andy Rooney says we should take the chip to prove we're good.

00:02:08.000 Well, you want us to trust you, don't you?

00:02:11.000 You're not with Al-Qaeda, are you?

00:02:13.000 I mean, look folks, the bizarreness is here.

00:02:18.000 I use this example all the time, but it's like a twenty, you know, twenty years ago, ten years ago, some late night science fiction B-movie, you know.

00:02:26.000 In the nightmare future, the government controls everything.

00:02:29.000 Surveillance is everywhere.

00:02:30.000 The citizens have tracker chips under their skins.

00:02:34.000 The police wear black masks.

00:02:36.000 Huge prisons are everywhere.

00:02:38.000 The government invades third world countries. 0.99

00:02:41.000 This is the nightmare future of Gattaca, Z412, you know. 1.00

00:02:46.000 The brave new world.

00:02:49.000 The island.

00:02:50.000 You want to go to the island.

00:02:52.000 I mean, it's that weird.

00:02:56.000 It's that out of control.

00:02:58.000 But we've been basted in it, marinated in it, so long that we don't even notice it now that we're in it.

00:03:06.000 And you're thinking, Alex, he may promote it, but they're never going to succeed.

00:03:11.000 Oh, they nuke a major city?

00:03:14.000 And you'll see a lot of people, the government will say, look, you can still have your Lexuses, you can still have your million dollar houses, and your Bimbos, and all of it, you just gotta take the chip. 0.60

00:03:25.000 If we say you gotta take these pills, because you're a little upset, and don't say you're not mentally ill, or that shows you're mentally ill, that is one of the new mental illnesses they've come out with.

00:03:36.000 If you say you're not ill, you're ill.

00:03:39.000 Everything's fine.

00:03:40.000 Nice men in black uniforms will drop by if you don't submit.

00:03:42.000 They're here to help you.

00:03:43.000 Don't worry.

00:03:44.000 Everything's good.

00:03:47.000 But we've still got free speech.

00:03:49.000 They're moving on us right now.

00:03:51.000 It's waking a lot of people up.

00:03:54.000 You know, it's kind of like the enemy's invaded the village and they're kind of rounding us up right now and people are going, should we fight back?

00:04:00.000 Wow, they're, you know, they're bad.

00:04:02.000 Meanwhile, they've kind of got their loudspeakers going.

00:04:04.000 Everything's alright.

00:04:06.000 This is not an assault.

00:04:07.000 We're here to keep you safe.

00:04:09.000 We're not invading.

00:04:10.000 Everything's fine.

00:04:12.000 And are we going to listen to their lies, or are we going to look at what they're doing?

00:04:18.000 We're here to keep you safe from the terrorists, never mind the fact that the terrorists are literal finger puppets that we control.

00:04:24.000 Literal finger puppets that they control.

00:04:29.000 Never mind that we have the motive.

00:04:30.000 We're the government.

00:04:31.000 Submit to us.

00:04:32.000 Give up all your freedoms.

00:04:33.000 Report on your neighbors.

00:04:34.000 All is good.

00:04:35.000 All is good.

00:04:36.000 Carry on.

00:04:37.000 Carry on.

00:04:38.000 Line up and show your papers for inspection.

00:04:40.000 Retinal scan.

00:04:41.000 Thumb scan.

00:04:41.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:04:44.000 Alright, I'm already ranting.

00:04:46.000 It's just this stuff even freaks me out and I live this every day.

00:04:50.000 I should be desensitized, but I'm not.

00:04:53.000 I'm forcing myself to face the full bizarreness.

00:04:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:08:06.000 All right, let's run through some of the news here on this Friday edition.

00:08:16.000 8 minutes, 20 seconds in right now, folks.

00:08:21.000 Guatemala troops tied to border drug war.

00:08:25.000 San Antonio Express News.

00:08:26.000 We mentioned that yesterday.

00:08:28.000 It's posted on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:08:32.000 Now again, we told you, the former death squads have been moved to Iraq and to the Texas areas of the United States, other areas of the Southwest.

00:08:44.000 I don't care how crazy it sounds, this is the intelligence, this is the mainstream news articles in our state.

00:08:51.000 And no one outside the states, maybe Nevada, Texas, Arizona, is even aware of this.

00:08:58.000 There is a total national news blackout.

00:09:02.000 Bazooka attacks, rocket attacks, 600 plus dead this year on both sides, car bombs, total bedlam, dead police everywhere.

00:09:13.000 And it just kept quiet.

00:09:14.000 I mean, when they kill a cop, it's just, okay, another cop died.

00:09:17.000 But boy, I tell you, if just a general citizen kills a cop, it's endless crying and weeping and freaking out and, you know, thousands of police taking off work and going to giant funerals.

00:09:30.000 But when a cop gets killed by a CIA-controlled Latin American hit gang, it doesn't get word one.

00:09:38.000 Mention one.

00:09:41.000 I mean, I could not stress how serious this is.

00:09:45.000 Schwarzenegger urged to declare border emergency on the heels of the Governor of Arizona and the Governor of New Mexico, Napolitano and Richardson, respectively.

00:09:56.000 Rick Perry has been challenged, our little Our little pixie governor.

00:10:01.000 He has been challenged to declare an emergency.

00:10:05.000 I mean, the U.S.

00:10:06.000 government's own... The State Department's only closed the embassy down there.

00:10:09.000 I mean, that's how bad it is.

00:10:11.000 But no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:10:13.000 We're not going to do that.

00:10:15.000 Why, just a couple years ago, I bullhorned Vicente Fox when he came up to Tejas.

00:10:21.000 Now, they had to shut down their press conference.

00:10:22.000 He was giving Perry Awards, Wells Fargo Awards, and the APD, Austin Police Department, for not following federal law and legalizing illegals by fiat.

00:10:34.000 They even give public awards for these lawbreakers!

00:10:38.000 So, don't expect that.

00:10:39.000 I mean, you could have half the state on fire, you wouldn't even be in the national news.

00:10:44.000 They decide what you're going to worry about.

00:10:47.000 They decide.

00:10:48.000 You know, 55 people die in England.

00:10:51.000 It is a tragic event, but, you know, 55 people die every week and anyone on the roads, and they just fear-monger it until you're all shaking in your boots, you know, ready to open your veins up, if it'll keep you safe from the New World Order.

00:11:03.000 Meanwhile, again, we have an actual... It's like the two wars we've had with Mexico, basically, but our own government's orchestrating it, using these troops against their competitors in the narcotics trade.

00:11:14.000 I mean, there's an actual war going on, like Sierra Leone, or...

00:11:19.000 You know, something along those lines the last few years, or the Civil War going on in Macedonia.

00:11:25.000 I mean, it's that big, folks, but not a word.

00:11:29.000 Congresswoman push for women in combat. 0.82

00:11:33.000 And as usual, the Democrats, along with Bush, want to put women in front-line combat. 1.00

00:11:38.000 Totally barbaric. 0.96

00:11:40.000 Totally insane.

00:11:41.000 Doesn't work.

00:11:43.000 But it's part of their hunger to draft women as well as men when that starts, and they package it in liberal packaging. 0.98

00:11:51.000 You know, all these TV shows about the future, you know, always women are the most powerful leaders and the best fighter pilots and the best commandos beating up men. 1.00

00:12:02.000 Even if that was true, why should we, which it isn't of course, why should we militarize women? 1.00

00:12:07.000 Why should we turn them into, you know, patriarchal Individuals.

00:12:15.000 I mean, turn them into men.

00:12:18.000 Turn them into the lowest denominator of men. 0.51

00:12:21.000 It's fantasy.

00:12:24.000 But that's why Bush tried to take Private Lynch, who actually cowered in fear, who was a Hispanic American who actually valiantly fought against overwhelming odds, and was killed and stabbed to death by the, shot a bunch and finally stabbed to death by the Iraqis.

00:12:39.000 And they just stripped him of his honors.

00:12:41.000 Not that, in the aggregate, there really are honors, but he did defend his friends, which is honorable.

00:12:47.000 And they just stripped him of it and gave it to her.

00:12:49.000 And then she said, it's all lies, I coward and fear on both occasions.

00:12:52.000 But again, they want that poster child.

00:12:56.000 I say put them in front line combat. 1.00

00:12:58.000 You know, let's ship the little girls home dead in these boxes. 1.00

00:13:01.000 Not just our boys. 1.00

00:13:02.000 Not just our little boys.

00:13:04.000 Let's ship them home. 0.93

00:13:06.000 And, of course, the Pentagon won't let you see the coffins, all part of the freedom. 0.98

00:13:11.000 But I think having our women kidnapped, having our women killed, having our women beheaded, that will really end this war quickly. 0.68

00:13:18.000 Of course, I'm being sarcastic, folks. 0.98

00:13:21.000 It's just they want women to be enslaved, to be involved in the press gangs. 1.00

00:13:27.000 It goes back to the British, folks. 0.99

00:13:28.000 They wanted slaves for ships in their different wars against the Frenchies and others.

00:13:35.000 Against the Spanish and others? 0.97

00:13:37.000 They would just simply pull up in your town and run around grabbing your ten-year-old children off the street.

00:13:43.000 Of course, they couldn't grab your little girls. 1.00

00:13:46.000 But not anymore, folks.

00:13:48.000 That's what this is all about.

00:13:50.000 Oh, it's so liberal.

00:13:51.000 Oh, women, you'll have the wonderful right of being conscripted and shipped off. 1.00

00:13:58.000 You know, you go to trendy restaurants, you go to trendy barbershops, and they've got these same-sex restrooms. 1.00

00:14:06.000 Again, it's all part of social engineering.

00:14:09.000 I don't want to go to the bathroom next to a woman. 1.00

00:14:14.000 I mean, I'm what you call someone of a macho person, but I still don't enjoy, you know, in some of these primitive areas out in the middle of nowhere, these national parks, where you're sitting on the commode without a barrier right next to, you know, another man.

00:14:29.000 Well, folks, they got them in the military now where you're, I hate to get graphic here, where you're right next to a woman! 0.98

00:14:36.000 I mean, there's something called privacy, folks.

00:14:39.000 But again, they want to drum out of this our normal family structures.

00:14:44.000 Because, look, do you think predators like it when a group of rhinoceros, rhinoceri, circle themselves around their calves?

00:14:55.000 Do you think they like it when elephants circle around their babies?

00:14:59.000 Do you think predators like it when wildebeests circle, or when buffaloes circle, or when... Do you think wolves like it when the cows circle around their young?

00:15:10.000 They're just engineering it where we don't circle.

00:15:12.000 It's real simple.

00:15:15.000 That's why they're celebrating the fact that the two-parent family is basically a huge minority now in America.

00:15:23.000 And if they admit that single parent homes are five times more likely to engage in crime or end up in prison, I'm not saying there aren't a lot of single parents who are heroes, who are wonderful people.

00:15:34.000 I'm not saying you're bad.

00:15:35.000 I'm saying statistically, the government knows that it ends up the child being a ward of the state, and that's what they're trying to push.

00:15:42.000 They don't like us circling.

00:15:45.000 They don't like us teaming up.

00:15:47.000 It just boils down to that.

00:15:51.000 Here's the analogy.

00:15:52.000 The globalists are basically a group of our own species who are predatory and feed on our own species.

00:15:58.000 We are a predator, folks.

00:16:00.000 And so now we've dominated the planet, and so we've set up a system where we feed on our own species.

00:16:05.000 You have the predator class and the non-predator class.

00:16:08.000 Not supposed to work like that, but most human civilization is set up along those lines.

00:16:12.000 But now they literally are getting ready to, you know, feed upon us with the biotech and the rest of it.

00:16:18.000 And so they're just engineering us to be more docile, like you breed a breed of dog to be more docile, or you breed a breed of bovine, of cow, to be more docile so you can slaughter it when you wish, or a breed of pig.

00:16:35.000 What are they, porcine?

00:16:37.000 Uh, to do this.

00:16:38.000 And, uh, they're actually, they even have handbooks on how to dumb us down, how to break us up.

00:16:44.000 And that's in 1984, how to break up the family.

00:16:47.000 I mean, it's just simple 101.

00:16:50.000 I'm not saying you're bad if you don't have a family.

00:16:52.000 I'm not saying you're bad if you're a single mother or father.

00:16:57.000 I know what you're under.

00:16:58.000 You've got the odds stacked against you.

00:17:00.000 So gut up, realize the threat, and defend your family.

00:17:04.000 You know, at least the baby rhinoceros has one big enough rhinoceros to protect it.

00:17:10.000 It doesn't mean you can't drive them off.

00:17:12.000 And single parent families can team up with other single parent families and have little communities. 0.99

00:17:18.000 And you can be friends with double parent families.

00:17:22.000 And double parent families should adopt a family in your area, not through some agency.

00:17:28.000 That's always predatory.

00:17:30.000 But yourselves, just do it, unofficially.

00:17:33.000 We've all got to defend each other against this.

00:17:35.000 We've got to learn to rally together against the globalists.

00:17:39.000 Okay, I've gotten through four articles and we're already 17 minutes in.

00:17:44.000 People keep emailing me and stopping me in the hall of the TV station last night and coming up to me and saying, Alex, why aren't you talking about how it's now admitted that this poor Brazilian man Didn't run from them, they shoved him onto the bus, I mean onto the train, and shot him eight times in the head.

00:18:05.000 Why aren't you talking about it?

00:18:07.000 Well, we did post the articles and I did talk about it.

00:18:09.000 But we told you the first day it happened all about it.

00:18:13.000 Because there were a bunch of witnesses on the train that said he didn't run, he walked onto the train, turned around as they yelled at him with fear, sat down, it seemed like he knew what was coming, they sat on him, held him down, and shot him eight times in the head, execution stop.

00:18:29.000 So, we told you day one, not because we've got crystal balls.

00:18:33.000 We went with the, what was it, like five eyewitnesses saw this?

00:18:37.000 And then were told by police to shut up?

00:18:39.000 Stop giving interviews?

00:18:40.000 I mean... And from the witnesses, it looked like he knew it was coming.

00:18:45.000 I believe he was somehow in their employ.

00:18:47.000 They admit they've, quote, been surveilling him.

00:18:49.000 He was an electrician, folks.

00:18:51.000 Military type.

00:18:52.000 Fit all the indicators.

00:18:54.000 And again, I'm just going off the indicators we've got. 0.98

00:18:57.000 He either saw something he wasn't supposed to, or he was in their employ, or he knew something and he had to be killed.

00:19:03.000 And these special forces attached to the armed police went in there and executed him.

00:19:10.000 So, and the police chief tried to shut down the investigation and lied about it.

00:19:15.000 Sir Ian Blair, no relation to Tony Blair, no relation to Eric Blair, but It's that simple.

00:19:26.000 And so something's rotten in the state of Denmark, and we've already covered this.

00:19:31.000 It's a travesty.

00:19:31.000 What happened to him?

00:19:34.000 And Blair says he's built to kill more innocent people than anything.

00:19:38.000 And there have been a lot of other people's houses they've raided and killed.

00:19:42.000 The evidence is some of the patches in the morning of 7-7 figured out what was going on, and their bombs didn't detonate.

00:19:49.000 So that's why they went around and killed some other people that day.

00:19:52.000 And the next day. 0.98

00:19:53.000 Hunting down the patsies, hunting down the decoys, savagely murdering them. 0.98

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00:23:59.000 And also... ...and the Milwaukee Eclipse coming up concerning one of these serial killers, who was of course a former government officiel. who was of course a former government officiel.

00:24:17.000 So clean cut, so nice.

00:24:20.000 How could he be evil if you're wearing a suit?

00:24:23.000 You know, the President wears a suit.

00:24:25.000 Bill Clinton wore a suit.

00:24:29.000 They're good people.

00:24:30.000 Let's give all our rights up to them. 1.00

00:24:33.000 But continuing with the news, FBI investigating local Homeland Security arrest, and we'll play a clip concerning this later as well, some of the Associated Press, allegations that as many as six federal Homeland Security deportation agents assaulted and tortured a Nigerian man who was shackled at Oklahoma City's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office are being investigated by the FBI according to published reports.

00:25:00.000 Now again, the FBI Engages in many more forms of torture and corruption, in many cases, than your major police departments.

00:25:09.000 But then when they catch police departments doing it, they will come in and put them, quote, on probation, and then next time they get in trouble, they basically federalize the police department.

00:25:20.000 Very, very dangerous.

00:25:22.000 This has happened in Detroit, New Orleans, L.A., many other areas.

00:25:27.000 But this is feds going after feds. 0.87

00:25:32.000 And I have no doubt that they, you know, didn't do the things that this article mentions.

00:25:38.000 My legs were in shackles, he stated.

00:25:39.000 One officer grabbed my neck from the back with his hand pressing in. 0.90

00:25:42.000 Another officer was holding tight on my ears, twisting and pulling hard on them as if to pull them off my head.

00:25:48.000 One officer was twisting my left hand while another was busy knocking on my Achilles heel tendon.

00:25:54.000 It was a nightmare. 0.81

00:25:55.000 It was so painful I asked them to shoot me. 1.00

00:25:58.000 I asked them to shoot me dead so they could get what they wanted. 0.99

00:26:03.000 This is lawlessness under the law, he complained. 0.96

00:26:05.000 I never fought back.

00:26:08.000 Well, I mean, it's par for the course in these prisons and jails. 1.00

00:26:11.000 If you're a sadistic scumbag who likes to abuse people, you go and you join the jails around the country. 0.99

00:26:19.000 Now, some prisons are different. 1.00

00:26:20.000 Some don't really do this.

00:26:23.000 It seems to be who the warden is or who the leadership is.

00:26:25.000 If it's condoned, it happens.

00:26:27.000 Sickos gravitate towards those. 1.00

00:26:30.000 The feds recruited thousands of jail guards out of the federal and state prisons.

00:26:34.000 Gave them low-level officer's commissions and huge bonuses and shipped them off to Iraq and other areas.

00:26:42.000 And they're just back to what they always do. 0.99

00:26:44.000 Raping, killing, torturing.

00:26:46.000 They would actually look at, you know, problem federal corrections officers, state corrections officers, private corrections officers from the different federal and state systems, and they would openly, you know, this has been in the news, take people who've got a big file and, hey, you're going places.

00:27:02.000 We like the traits you've got.

00:27:05.000 So, you know, we whine and scream about the Iraqis getting tortured, which is bad, And you know, General Myers, the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, comes out and says, we're not torturing people, but don't release the thousands of photos and videos, because it will cause riots.

00:27:18.000 And the Army's seen the photos, they've written a report on them, raping women and children, beating people to death. 0.80

00:27:25.000 But it's not torture, no, just killing people. 0.93

00:27:30.000 So, this is the reality.

00:27:34.000 This is the reality of what we're talking about.

00:27:39.000 And it's very, very serious.

00:27:43.000 So coming up, we'll play some audio clips concerning that.

00:27:48.000 Cheney is saying we will honor Tripp's sacrifice by continuing and completing the mission.

00:27:54.000 Ah.

00:27:55.000 So since you've already chopped off two of your fingers because you stuck them in the garbage disposal, you're going to continue the sacrifice.

00:28:01.000 You know, you dropped your wedding ring in there and turned on the garbage disposal and stuck your hand in it.

00:28:06.000 Instead of turning it off, And then assessing the situation, you're going to go ahead and stick your hand in.

00:28:11.000 You knew what it would do.

00:28:11.000 Now since two fingers are chopped off, it's got to continue the sacrifice and mow off the other two fingers and your thumb.

00:28:17.000 And I guess since that's such a sacrifice, it's got to continue pushing even deeper.

00:28:23.000 Researchers creating life from scratch.

00:28:26.000 ABC News.

00:28:27.000 I read that headline and I thought, you know, they can't do that.

00:28:31.000 And sure enough, they're taking DNA, reprogramming it, and quote, creating life.

00:28:35.000 Well, that DNA is life, so you didn't do that.

00:28:39.000 But now they're claiming they created life, but they don't even understand the DNA.

00:28:42.000 No, you didn't create life.

00:28:44.000 You took life, and recombined it.

00:28:48.000 Did you create a new life form?

00:28:49.000 I guess you could say you did.

00:28:53.000 Robert's argued for a national ID card, and against women's rights, is the USA Today headline.

00:28:59.000 Notice how Where he defended, you know, all these liberal groups and stuff.

00:29:04.000 That's disappearing.

00:29:06.000 But then the stuff they do accidentally find and bring forward.

00:29:09.000 Why?

00:29:09.000 He was for a national ID card to stop illegal aliens.

00:29:14.000 And oh, he was against abortion.

00:29:16.000 But now he's not.

00:29:17.000 Now he's for amnesty and now he's neutral on abortion.

00:29:22.000 So just more trying to position him as a conservative.

00:29:28.000 Just so much more, your calls, some audio clips coming up, two great guests, Professor David Ray Griffin and of course Catherine Albrecht about former Health and Human Services and former Governor Tommy Thompson running around saying get chipped today.

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00:29:46.000 And we've got a little update from Crawford coming up too.

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00:33:28.000 Ernest Hancock reports for one of Air America's big affiliates, KXXT, 1010 AM, and he just called in with a report.

00:33:36.000 I talked to him during the break.

00:33:37.000 The George Soros crowd is now taking full control.

00:33:41.000 Of course, he's been scooping all the big Air America national outfits, and so he's now going back to Phoenix.

00:33:49.000 He's a Libertarian, and they're kind of sending in the libs.

00:33:54.000 And I was out there and it was pretty annoying to have all these nice people against the war, conservatives, liberals, it doesn't matter.

00:34:00.000 And then you had like little nipping at your heels, little control freaks that were very upset that I and others were there.

00:34:06.000 And this is how the globalists control things.

00:34:09.000 They have control arms that control the right and control the left.

00:34:13.000 And of course I didn't mention it earlier because a lot of this news frankly dwarfs it.

00:34:17.000 But Cindy, of course you know her mother, had a stroke.

00:34:21.000 Out in California, so she's gone out there and we don't know when she's coming back.

00:34:25.000 And Bush is only out there for another week and a half or so.

00:34:29.000 But to kind of give us a final report out there at Camp Casey is of course Ernest Hancock.

00:34:37.000 Ernest, give us the report.

00:34:39.000 Well, the main thing, to zip it in a summary here, is that We have, the anti-war movement is really growing, and it's just mom, pa, and people and regular, they're very against this war.

00:34:50.000 And a bunch of communists want to hijack it.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, see that creates a movement, that creates a bunch of television cameras pointing somewhere, and then everybody wants to jump in front of that camera.

00:35:01.000 And boy, these people are aggressive, I mean, they will just command you what to do, they'll try to keep the media from talking to you.

00:35:08.000 Well, I'll tell you what's really going on, I hate to Put names and groups and things to it, but what is definitely happening is the left is in force and they're showing up in mass numbers there.

00:35:23.000 And they'll make sure, as government agents, to blow it, make it look bad, and then the media will get what they want.

00:35:31.000 Well, I don't know.

00:35:32.000 I mean, you don't really know what's going on other than Cindy herself, I think, has been pretty good about keeping, you know, separate from the... Her going back to visit with her mother may be a good thing for her, maybe even the movement, but there are definite forces that are on the... See, from a libertarian perspective, I see someone that wants to economically and socially control me from the left to the right as part of the same thing.

00:35:55.000 It's not any different, in my opinion.

00:35:58.000 Here we have a lot of the left has come in and moved in and are part of the infrastructure behind the scenes to get the organ.

00:36:07.000 They're doing a great job organizing.

00:36:08.000 There's no getting around that.

00:36:09.000 They're making sure things get done, have a lot of volunteers.

00:36:13.000 But there's kind of an underneath thing that's going on.

00:36:15.000 I'll give you a good example.

00:36:16.000 There was, yesterday, a report on TV.

00:36:20.000 A guy was arrested out there at the site and had his vehicle towed.

00:36:24.000 He got in some altercation out there.

00:36:27.000 I went to Waco to go to the McLellan Sheriff's Department, talk to the PR guy there to find out why he was arrested, you know, what charges, who was he, that kind of stuff.

00:36:37.000 And when I came back to Camp Casey or the House of Peace there and talked to some of the bloggers, I asked them, I go, what do you guys know about it?

00:36:43.000 I got the sheriff working on getting a report and all this.

00:36:46.000 And they go, oh, we're not talking about that.

00:36:47.000 Don't say anything.

00:36:48.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:36:49.000 It's a news thing.

00:36:50.000 Of course I'm going to ask, why do you guys care?

00:36:54.000 And what happened was most of the people there didn't know about it.

00:36:58.000 You had the mass media and television and everything reporting on this happening and a lot of the people that were there didn't know and they were asking me and some of the controllers there that were trying to, I don't know what they were trying to do, they were upset that I even brought it up.

00:37:13.000 No, I mean, it's total mind control.

00:37:17.000 Now, I mean, that's why they only let peace activists do little-bitty, maybe ten-word chants.

00:37:22.000 It's about never having information, never expanding your information, keeping you under the left wing of the New World Order's control.

00:37:29.000 But, now, describe who did get arrested.

00:37:33.000 Well, that's the whole thing.

00:37:34.000 What happened was, at about 12.31 at night... Sounds like he probably criticized some leftist, and I didn't like it.

00:37:34.000 We don't know.

00:37:40.000 Yeah, no, there was, you know, ouch quitted, ouch quitted, for whatever reason, it was in the minds of the local sheriff to haul him in and tow his car.

00:37:49.000 But the eyewitnesses to what was going on was just, he was abusive and he didn't seem like he was all balanced and there, I mean, you know... So because the guy shot his mouth off a little, they had him arrested and now they're trying to cover it up?

00:38:02.000 I, you know, I don't know.

00:38:04.000 That's what it sounds like.

00:38:05.000 2 plus 2 equals 4.

00:38:07.000 Well, you know, you'd go out there and... I don't know, Alex, I really don't.

00:38:11.000 Well, they're a little paranoid, too, because they've had people running over crosses and everything else.

00:38:16.000 Well, see, the thing is, is just by what frightened me was asking the question, you know, to want to find out, to want to know, and then controlling that kind of flow.

00:38:25.000 So, I remember there was an incident.

00:38:28.000 I talked to the ABC guy yesterday, a national, I can't remember his name, Jeff Moss, something.

00:38:33.000 And he was, a few days ago, it was Sunday or Monday, I think it was, he was really pressing on Cindy in this big press conference, are we keeping it focused?

00:38:42.000 Are you going to get back to focus?

00:38:43.000 Are you going to get back to the issue?

00:38:45.000 And at first I thought he was being kind of abusive, but then I started to realize, I talked to him yesterday, and I started to realize what was going on.

00:38:52.000 He was doing Cindy a favor, and I think Cindy appreciated it, because all these other issues start trying to jump on it, and it was distracting from why she was there.

00:39:01.000 And it was to help her get it back on focus.

00:39:03.000 And she's like, yes, we're focusing.

00:39:04.000 I want to know what the noble cause in this war is.

00:39:07.000 My son was killed.

00:39:09.000 I don't want it to keep continuing.

00:39:10.000 And, you know, and they kind of brought it back.

00:39:13.000 And while talking to him, he's like, yeah, from the beginning, there's been all these little organizations in the far left that has hijacked the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party doesn't really exist.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, what they're doing is they're distracting everybody off of the central issues of the war, and then basically dancing around in communist outfits, making everybody look bad.

00:39:35.000 Well, Ernest, thank you for all your reports, and folks can check out those blogs.

00:39:39.000 They're at CrawfordorBus.com, and take care, my friend.

00:39:42.000 Hey, thanks Alex.

00:39:43.000 You keep doing the good work.

00:39:44.000 Keep us informed, man.

00:39:45.000 You bet.

00:39:46.000 Take care.

00:39:46.000 Alright, I'll get to your calls here in a moment, but for so long I've wanted to comment on the BTK killer.

00:39:54.000 A government official.

00:39:56.000 Pretty high level.

00:39:57.000 Mr. Clean Cut wearing the fancy suits.

00:40:01.000 And isn't that almost always the serial killer?

00:40:03.000 And there's a lot of these guys haven't been caught.

00:40:07.000 A lot of the people that go to these elite encampments that do these rituals We've got very good evidence.

00:40:13.000 They're not just into wild sex parties. 0.99

00:40:15.000 They like to break women's jaws and kill people. 1.00

00:40:19.000 It's all about exercising power. 0.99

00:40:21.000 It's about pressing on the nerve of power.

00:40:24.000 It's about dominating.

00:40:26.000 You know, strangling people and then reviving them to get the terror again.

00:40:30.000 To literally feed off of it.

00:40:34.000 And more often than not, they're young law students or they're lawyers or the clean-cut business owner.

00:40:40.000 But notice whenever it's some father of three that does this, father of three, father of three, the media harps on it.

00:40:47.000 But when you're a big government official, like the BT serial killer, the BTK serial killer, they want to keep it real quiet.

00:40:56.000 And notice, you never hear of that in news articles anymore.

00:40:59.000 So I wanted to play this sicko masquerading as an angel of light.

00:41:05.000 Oh, he knows all the Bible verses. 0.92

00:41:07.000 I don't.

00:41:08.000 So, see, I'm bad.

00:41:09.000 He does, so he's good.

00:41:11.000 He's good.

00:41:13.000 I'm in a little newscast trying to analyze what he's up to.

00:41:17.000 But, you know, it's funny.

00:41:19.000 A few months ago, the folks at the network, I'm down here in Austin, Texas.

00:41:23.000 They're up in Minnesota.

00:41:24.000 They pop in my ear and tell me stuff.

00:41:25.000 And when a caller hangs up, they'll say, Bob hung up.

00:41:28.000 In case I'm, you know, not paying attention.

00:41:31.000 And a woman was saying, do you know John 316?

00:41:33.000 Of course I do.

00:41:37.000 I said, uh, no, I don't know that verse.

00:41:38.000 Repeat it again?

00:41:39.000 Because they popped in right when she said it, and then I got emails, Alex, you don't know John 3, 16.

00:41:45.000 Well, if you want to say I don't, fine.

00:41:47.000 I don't know it, okay?

00:41:49.000 I do, but frankly, I'm just, okay, I don't.

00:41:51.000 It doesn't matter, folks.

00:41:53.000 The devil can quote scripture at you all day.

00:41:55.000 The devil can go to church.

00:41:57.000 You know, I get up on there, and I've said, you know, I'm a lustful person.

00:42:01.000 I like to drink.

00:42:03.000 I have to, you know, control myself not to drink beer.

00:42:06.000 I have to control myself not to smoke cigars.

00:42:08.000 I don't, by the way.

00:42:09.000 I've gotten to where I don't.

00:42:10.000 But, uh, because I mention that, does that make me evil?

00:42:13.000 No!

00:42:14.000 Besides, it isn't about Alex Jones!

00:42:18.000 Okay?

00:42:19.000 But, I mean, the point is, you need to stop trusting so much just what's on the surface.

00:42:25.000 I mean, George Bush, I've snuck into where he does the rituals, is a Satan worshipper.

00:42:30.000 It's admitted! 0.56

00:42:32.000 Skull and bones, bohemian grove.

00:42:34.000 I mean, you know, one day he's worshipping in a Shinto shrine, summoning the demon. 0.91

00:42:38.000 Another day, and it's actually a demon at that shrine, even though, you know, the Zen Buddhists admit, you know, this is a demon.

00:42:45.000 This is a demon shrine.

00:42:47.000 Or he's worshipping Allah one day, or praying, you know, at the Jewish synagogue one day.

00:42:53.000 I mean, you know, it's just different religion every day of the week.

00:42:59.000 I'm not going to sit here and thump my Bible and tell you I'm high and mighty and I'm all good.

00:43:02.000 I'm going to tell you, frankly, most of these preachers are Luciferian. 0.95

00:43:05.000 A lot of them just aren't ignorant, folks. 0.95

00:43:06.000 They've infiltrated the seminaries. 0.97

00:43:09.000 But, I mean, here's the BT serial killer, the BTK serial killer, quoting the Bible.

00:43:14.000 And then we'll play the second clip with just, you know, with one of his survivors going back 30 years.

00:43:20.000 Here it is, folks.

00:43:23.000 It's a Christian Bible verse I found that I think It's helping me.

00:43:28.000 It will help me.

00:43:28.000 It's leading me.

00:43:30.000 This is John 8, 12.

00:43:31.000 I am the light of the world.

00:43:33.000 He who follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have life of light.

00:43:37.000 Now that I've confessed, put myself out to let everybody know what's going on, I expect to heal and to have life.

00:43:46.000 And then hopefully, someday, God will accept me.

00:43:54.000 We speak of a man as an evil man.

00:43:56.000 The dark side was there, but now I think light is beginning to shine.

00:44:05.000 So, I appreciate the family, the friends, and all I can be thankful for.

00:44:12.000 And I think that will keep me from finally going to the dark side.

00:44:16.000 Sorry about that.

00:44:19.000 And finally, I final apologize to the victim's families.

00:44:24.000 There's no way that I can ever repay them.

00:44:32.000 Alright, that's clip number one from him in the courtroom, and that's the background noise from the microphone he's twenty feet away from.

00:44:32.000 That's all, sir.

00:44:41.000 Can you imagine wanting to Get people and torture them and kill them? 1.00

00:44:48.000 Well, our government wants to. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Rumsfeld likes to lick his lips and shoot his mouth off two years ago when he thought you were being sold on his mentality. 0.94

00:44:57.000 Don't worry, we got him. 0.99

00:44:58.000 We've taken the gloves off.

00:45:00.000 We got him.

00:45:00.000 We're pressuring him.

00:45:02.000 I was in LA for a couple TV shows I was being interviewed by.

00:45:07.000 Conspiracy Zone and Another, and I'm out there, and I remember in my hotel room, eating room service, watching him admit they're torturing people.

00:45:17.000 This is back when they thought they had everybody warped.

00:45:20.000 And now the law enforcement magazines promote torture, 24 promotes torture, Threat Matrix promotes torture, CSI, CSI Miami promotes it, NYPD blew all these shows, you know, LA Law, Every episode, I mean literally, it's how torture is so wonderful.

00:45:36.000 You see, they're selling you on their mentality.

00:45:38.000 And folks, they pull a family over.

00:45:40.000 They don't have their papers in order.

00:45:42.000 They're taken to a camp.

00:45:44.000 They take them in there.

00:45:45.000 And man, they go, alright, you're a ten year old. 1.00

00:45:47.000 We're going to rape them right now. 1.00

00:45:48.000 And it's because they like to do it. 0.99

00:45:50.000 And see, they're institutionalizing a system where they get to do it. 0.91

00:45:56.000 They get to carry it out.

00:45:58.000 They get to enjoy themselves. 1.00

00:46:00.000 And see, a really smart serial killer becomes a government official, like this piece of garbage. 1.00

00:46:06.000 Like this piece of filth, Dennis Reiter, who really is a shell for a demon. 1.00

00:46:14.000 I mean, this literally is the dark side, coming across the void and feeding. 0.99

00:46:21.000 And then a lot of these killers, a lot of these killers are running the quote, you know, anti-child porn rings.

00:46:27.000 And then, see, they go out and raid innocent people that, you know, kiss their two-month-old baby on the stomach and get it printed at Eckerd's.

00:46:34.000 Meanwhile, the people that are raiding those folks, and we have the intel on this, most of them, see, they're in a place where they can have all this stuff, do it, be around it, and then persecute innocent people.

00:46:44.000 It's real funny to them. 0.98

00:46:46.000 And, see, it's the same thing with these preachers and the government and just all of this scum, folks. 0.98

00:46:53.000 Well, I mean, you know, it's come out of the Miami Herald and others that the top, you know, head person over the computer systems, and still didn't get in trouble, is a convicted brutal child rapist running the computers. 0.98

00:47:03.000 And what, like a third of the top people in the CPS in Florida, it turned out, were convicted child rapists.

00:47:08.000 See, they gravitate to where they get government power.

00:47:13.000 And again, most people, two-thirds or plus, who are police and, you know, who are government officials, aren't evil.

00:47:19.000 They had a compulsion to serve, Or maybe they wanted an adventure, or maybe they were just attracted to the uniform or whatever, but they're not bad.

00:47:28.000 But still, you need to know who you're sitting next to.

00:47:31.000 And by the way, the really deep criminology, the master's degrees in criminology, and I haven't taken that level of criminology, but I've read a lot of the textbooks, actually admit all of this.

00:47:42.000 So you need to know statistically.

00:47:44.000 More murder, more suicide, more drug use.

00:47:47.000 We all know about that in government.

00:47:50.000 Okay.

00:47:51.000 But it's all the other things too, many times higher levels.

00:47:55.000 So, when I tell you our government officials, they're all into different stuff.

00:48:01.000 I mean, you know, but by and large, really high level people are really sick. 0.99

00:48:08.000 And a lot of them like to kill. 0.94

00:48:10.000 Let's, well, I mean, it's admitted that a lot of top CEOs and stuff are into sadomasochism, really vicious stuff. 0.99

00:48:19.000 It's just sick, folks.

00:48:21.000 And that's a gateway into all of this.

00:48:23.000 And they want control of your life.

00:48:24.000 Let's go to the second clip. 0.98

00:48:26.000 Here it is.

00:48:27.000 Families of the BTK victims have been warned by prosecutors in recent weeks that police testimony would be difficult to bear.

00:48:34.000 What detectives revealed through graphic crime scene and autopsy photos and volumes of evidence from the killer himself was the disturbing death of cruelty and depravity behind Dennis Rader's murderous spree.

00:48:46.000 Did it appear to you that he seemed to be extremely proud of what he had done?

00:48:50.000 Yes, it was very matter-of-fact.

00:48:53.000 We've used the animation and also drawing pictures to help illustrate the details.

00:48:59.000 Raider once took the body of one of his victims to his church.

00:49:02.000 Detectives described how he became more confident and bolder in time, torturing his victims by strangling them and reviving them to prolong their terror.

00:49:11.000 All of his murders were what?

00:49:13.000 Sexual.

00:49:14.000 He called it sexual overt. 0.51

00:49:17.000 He said that basically all of these people were going to die one of three ways.

00:49:21.000 First, they were going to be bound.

00:49:23.000 And they would either be strangled, suffocated, or hung.

00:49:26.000 No one in the courtroom was more familiar with the horror and the violence than Kevin Bright, who on April 4th, 1974, just 19 years old and 115 pounds, desperately fought for his sister Catherine's life and his own, face to face with a young Dennis Rader.

00:49:45.000 I surprised him.

00:49:47.000 He was expecting to just strangle me like he did the other people.

00:49:51.000 When I broke loose and jumped up, he went for his gun. 0.78

00:49:57.000 I was just focused on that gun because I knew he was going to shoot me. 0.92

00:50:01.000 I grabbed hold of it and pulled it into his stomach. 0.99

00:50:05.000 I got my hand on the trigger.

00:50:08.000 I pulled the trigger twice and it didn't go off.

00:50:11.000 Then he jerked it away from me.

00:50:17.000 Bright was shot in the forehead, but he continued to fight until Rader shot him a second time in the face.

00:50:23.000 Rader then proceeded to strangle the life out of 21-year-old Catherine, who fought back as well. 1.00

00:50:28.000 He said that he had to strike her around the head area, trying to control her. 0.98

00:50:34.000 And at the same time, he was trying to strangle her with a piece of cloth that he had found inside the residence.

00:50:42.000 There's a quote behind you.

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00:54:01.000 Alright folks, we're going to go to a few of your calls in a second, but I could talk for hours about the BTK killer, because the piece of trash, who should be executed by the way, taunted the police. 1.00

00:54:22.000 He started mailing letters to newspapers, photos of people he'd killed, When they finally caught him, he had thousands of cards and index cards and, you know, he was just totally obsessed with power and killing and torture. 0.98

00:54:36.000 And, of course, it was tied to sexual activities, just like the torture at Camp X-Ray, the torture at Abu Ghraib.

00:54:44.000 It's all sexual.

00:54:46.000 It's the same spirit, folks.

00:54:48.000 Or, if you don't believe in God, it's the same area of the brain that's gone haywire.

00:54:54.000 It's always the same throughout history.

00:54:56.000 It's just that priesthoods would ritualize all of this.

00:55:01.000 And this parasitic group that has no compulsion against doing this, and who enjoys doing this, gets into control.

00:55:11.000 And they like to leave cards.

00:55:15.000 They like to leave a calling card.

00:55:17.000 They like to leave clues.

00:55:18.000 They like to taunt.

00:55:21.000 And, uh, it's just like the globalists will tell you in four or five movies exactly what they'll do before they do it.

00:55:27.000 And we even have the people involved in the X-Files Long Gunman episode.

00:55:33.000 Who said they were approached by Central Intelligence, almost a year before 9-11, to have this scenario of flying a hijacked jet into the World Trade Center, to blame it on Afghanistan and invade them, to be covered by a drill.

00:55:45.000 Now that's impossible.

00:55:46.000 A TV show where it's covered by a drill, the government runs a drill, so the other parts of the government don't know what's happening, and they do this to be able to invade a foreign country and blame it on them.

00:55:58.000 And again, there were like four other movies and ads that defense contractors would run, and it's like they are compelled.

00:56:08.000 They are compelled to do this.

00:56:11.000 They are compelled to tell you and to taunt, and it's the same every time.

00:56:15.000 And I have to sit here and look at these serial killers on TV, smirking at us in their suits and reading Bible verses and tramping around.

00:56:26.000 I mean, I'm sick of it!

00:56:28.000 It makes me sick!

00:56:31.000 And yeah, people go, well, man, aren't you scared they're going to get you?

00:56:33.000 Yeah, you know, sometimes I get concerned, but you know what?

00:56:36.000 I'm safer fighting them than going along with them.

00:56:38.000 I mean, yeah, the fear creeps in sometimes.

00:56:42.000 It's just like we have that captain on.

00:56:44.000 Or not the captain.

00:56:45.000 We're talking about the captain.

00:56:46.000 We had the doctors on, the ship's doctor, from the USS Liberty on, highly decorated, shot and shrapneled and leg broken, kneecap broken, still taking care of everybody, and he said the thought came in his mind to just hide in the corner with all his wounds, but then he just He really felt the presence of God and forced down his fear.

00:57:12.000 Just forced it down.

00:57:13.000 You've got to force it down.

00:57:15.000 And then it becomes strength.

00:57:17.000 I mean, believe me, cowering in fear isn't going to protect you from these killers.

00:57:22.000 And there are a lot of them, folks.

00:57:24.000 There are several thousand serial killers who team up together.

00:57:28.000 They go to parties together and do all this stuff.

00:57:31.000 The satanic rituals are just the basic backdrop of all this.

00:57:35.000 That's what gives it a regimented flair.

00:57:38.000 And they see us as cattle, they see us as dog meat.

00:57:41.000 Let's go to Ed in Utah.

00:57:42.000 Ed, go ahead.

00:57:43.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

00:57:45.000 I really appreciated your interview the other night on Fox, Alan Combs.

00:57:49.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:49.000 Oh, thank you.

00:57:50.000 Good job.

00:57:51.000 You seem to know that audience.

00:57:53.000 You also brought up Greg Symanski from the American Free Press newspaper.

00:57:53.000 It was just good.

00:57:58.000 And I found that very interesting, and that's what I want to get to about some of the things he, I'm just surmising here, said concerning this General Burns that you guys talked about a little bit.

00:58:10.000 Must have shocked the, generally the neocon audience of some of the Fox listeners, but I hear that music.

00:58:18.000 Well, I got David Ray Griffin coming up, but what I'll do is, this will all concern 9-11, so you want to hold?

00:58:24.000 You'll be the first caller for Griffin.

00:58:25.000 Can you hold?

00:58:26.000 Yes, I can.

00:58:28.000 Go ahead and call Griffin right now.

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00:59:37.000 We are joined in this hour by Professor David Ray Griffin, also author of several extremely powerful books.

00:59:44.000 I've had him on several times now, but I had a chance a few weeks ago to read his essay, and we have it posted on InfoWars.com, the 9-11 Commission Report, a 571-page lie.

00:59:56.000 And he talks about how it was hard to chronicle all of them, and really how he thought that he should have titled his 9-11 book, the 9-11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions, that he should have just called it a 571-page lie.

01:00:14.000 He's kind of feeling sad about that, and I understand.

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01:00:37.000 But let's go ahead and go to the professor.

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01:00:43.000 Professor, thank you again for taking out time to join us.

01:00:46.000 Good morning Alex, I'm glad to be with you again.

01:00:52.000 But former Chief Briefer for Ronald Reagan and then of course George H.W.

01:00:58.000 Bush, Ray McGovern and boy he was just coming right out with government involvement in 9-11 and endorsing your book and he wasn't that hardcore a year ago.

01:01:09.000 More and more people are just coming out with it.

01:01:12.000 Yeah, no, Ray told me that After he read the first book, it certainly made him suspicious, but it didn't push him over.

01:01:20.000 But then when he read the second book and saw how, you know, to what extremes they had to go to protect, defend the official story, he said that pushed him over to think that it had to be an inside job.

01:01:40.000 Yeah, we've got video interviews with him going up on the website today and a part two next week for PrisonPlanet.tv members, but a lot of this will be on the site for everybody.

01:01:49.000 It's so important.

01:01:50.000 But, I mean, we've got the former, number two at Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, going public.

01:01:57.000 We've got, of course, Morgan Reynolds, number one economist, Department of Labor.

01:02:02.000 I mean, they've got a big problem, Professor.

01:02:06.000 It does seem to be unraveling, and that's the term that Justin Raimondo used the other day, that, you know, he's not necessarily ready to go this far, but he's seen enough just from mainstream news sources to say that the government's story about 9-11 is unraveling.

01:02:28.000 Yeah, now all of his little libertarian followers that parrot whatever he says will have to change their orthodoxy.

01:02:35.000 Perhaps the Earth is not the center of the universe.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, it's rather remarkable how just in the last couple months lots of movement has occurred And one of the newest things, of course, is the release of the oral histories that the New York Times had to fight three years.

01:03:04.000 To get the city of New York to release.

01:03:07.000 And you know what?

01:03:08.000 I can't believe the government said we're only going to release some of it, but even in what they've released now, there's even more.

01:03:14.000 Firefighters saying explosions, bombs, that's amazing.

01:03:18.000 Yeah, I've been working through that.

01:03:20.000 A colleague and I have gone through now about a fourth of the oral histories, and we already see that the story about testimonies of explosions in the Twin Towers It's far stronger than anybody thought before.

01:03:35.000 Bombs, bombs everywhere.

01:03:37.000 And Silverstein admits it, but no one goes to jail.

01:03:42.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:07:37.000 That's the only thing the evidence shows, and for stations that don't carry that first five minutes, have you missed it?

01:07:45.000 I just want to point something out.

01:07:47.000 This weekend, last weekend, out at Camp Casey in Crawford, I interviewed Ray McGovern, who we've talked to several times on the air over the last three years.

01:07:56.000 He's gone public on the eve of the war, and now after the war started, that it's all a total fraud, that it's manufactured evidence, that we're dealing with criminally insane individuals who literally are delusional in the White House.

01:08:13.000 He was the chief briefer for Ronald Reagan, and then every morning, six days a week, for George Herbert Walker Bush.

01:08:22.000 And Brent Scowcroft and others.

01:08:24.000 And, you know, six months ago I saw the quote in his text where he said, boy, 9-11 sure is suspicious, but as you heard David Ray Griffin say in the last segment, now he's saying, no, no, now the evidence is really, and he cites the second book by Griffin as really tying it together for him, and just the horrible manipulations of the 9-11 whitewash commission, the second one appointed by Bush, that it's got to be an inside job.

01:08:48.000 I mean, when they come out and say there were no steel columns in the middle of Tower 1 and 2, when they had some of the biggest columns in the world, when they don't mention Building 7, when they just flagrantly... It's the equivalent of saying the sun didn't come up in the morning.

01:09:02.000 So I wanted to repeat that.

01:09:04.000 This is such a big deal.

01:09:06.000 Professor, now you're looking at the oral histories of these firefighters and others, which they tried to block.

01:09:11.000 They did block a lot of it, but I guess they're lazy.

01:09:14.000 In it, we found several instances of bombs, explosions, firefighters talking about this.

01:09:20.000 Why, if the government didn't release all of it, why would they still release some of it, Professor?

01:09:27.000 Well, they resisted, you know, for three years.

01:09:32.000 It was finally the New York Court of Appeals that said there was a suit by the New York Times and several of the families of victims joined together in this suit.

01:09:45.000 And it took a long time through the court system, but the highest court in the state of New York, the Court of Appeals, finally said earlier this month that they had to release most of the oral histories.

01:10:00.000 But how on earth could the government claim it was going to aid Zacharias Moussaoui, who they still haven't gotten convicted of anything?

01:10:10.000 No, that was clearly phony.

01:10:14.000 And many people inside knew right away that that was phony.

01:10:19.000 So, in fact, they changed their tune.

01:10:22.000 Now, let's not forget, first they claimed all the radios had malfunctioned.

01:10:26.000 Then the fire department got mad two years ago and released some of the tapes where they were talking about explosions and stuff.

01:10:33.000 So, I mean, we're getting lied to in just multi-faceted ways.

01:10:38.000 Yeah, they tried to claim then that this would be a desecration of the dead to reveal this, and, you know, a breach of confidentiality and all of that.

01:10:49.000 But the Court of Appeals obviously saw through that, evidently looked, you know, and said, well, here are a few things you can edit out.

01:10:58.000 I don't know how extensive that was.

01:11:01.000 But what remains is pretty striking, however.

01:11:04.000 Has anyone read any of these oral histories on your show?

01:11:08.000 We have links to it on PrisonPlanet.com, but we've read small excerpts, but go ahead.

01:11:17.000 Yeah, let me read one here, just sort of alphabetically.

01:11:21.000 Firefighter Timothy Burke He was seeing, you know, jumpers from the North Tower and flames in the South and wondering, where the hell are the jets?

01:11:31.000 Where the hell are the choppers?

01:11:33.000 And he was afraid another plane was going to come in.

01:11:35.000 And then he says, then the building, the South Tower, popped lower than the fire.

01:11:42.000 So, you know, people want to claim, oh, it started with the fire.

01:11:46.000 Well, that's the video we see, the blast explosions pop down the side, then it falls.

01:11:51.000 That's right.

01:11:51.000 And then, so now we have it in, you know, eyewitness testimony, and he was saying, I was going, oh my God, there's a secondary device, because the way the building popped, I thought it was an explosion.

01:12:05.000 And then another fellow, Firefighter Edward Kachia, I think it's pronounced, He said it actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit.

01:12:17.000 Well, we have eyewitnesses long before anything collapses with bombs going off in the basement.

01:12:23.000 That's right.

01:12:24.000 So, what some of us are doing now are putting together the old testimonies with the new ones and showing that there is now an extremely strong... Well, we shouldn't listen to the firefighters.

01:12:35.000 We should listen to George Bush.

01:12:37.000 Anybody that questions George Bush must be with Al Qaeda.

01:12:41.000 Yeah, and this Kachia goes on then to say, uh, we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:12:55.000 And then the next guy says the same thing, John Cittarella, I heard a loud roar, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:13:04.000 So you can see why they did not want to allow these to

01:13:10.000 And for those that don't know, Larry Silverstein says he blew Building 7 up, it wasn't hit by a plane, no fire, little bitty fires falls, and we have the video on the stills of which the buildings, before they collapse, there's little ploofs, the classic detonation points, and we've got dozens of firefighters saying they saw this, I mean, they're trained for this folks, but it's just 101, we have all these other control demos, we know what it looks like, and then when it starts collapsing, we have

01:13:38.000 Evenly blown off, evenly blown off sections of the girders, being ejected hundreds of feet!

01:13:45.000 Folks, that doesn't happen with fire! 0.99

01:13:47.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:13:49.000 No, that's right, and to support what you just said, the Assistant Commissioner of the New York Fire Department, Stephen Gregory, said, I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before number two came down, That I saw low-level flashes.

01:14:09.000 In my conversations with another lieutenant, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building.

01:14:19.000 And I agreed with him.

01:14:20.000 I saw a flash, flash, flash, and then it looked like the building came down.

01:14:24.000 Exactly like you see when they blow up a building or a parking garage?

01:14:29.000 That's what he says here.

01:14:30.000 He says, you know like when they demolish a building.

01:14:33.000 How, when they blow up a building, then it falls down?

01:14:36.000 That's what I thought I saw.

01:14:37.000 Yeah, go back and start the quote over.

01:14:39.000 I interrupted.

01:14:39.000 No, that's okay.

01:14:40.000 I got it out.

01:14:41.000 That's fine.

01:14:41.000 Well, I mean, let's re-read that whole thing again.

01:14:44.000 Okay, but I saw a flash, flash, flash, and then it looked like the building came down.

01:14:49.000 It was at the lower level of the building.

01:14:51.000 You know, like when they demolish a building.

01:14:54.000 How, when they blow up a building, when it falls down?

01:14:57.000 That's what I thought I saw.

01:14:59.000 That's Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory.

01:15:03.000 Well, he's definitely on the payroll of Al Qaeda.

01:15:06.000 Well, you know, they did have some guys in here who were evidently told to support the official story.

01:15:14.000 So you have a couple guys saying that Building 7 was totally engulfed in flames, all 47 floors.

01:15:25.000 It's funny, not a single photographer thought to take a picture of that.

01:15:30.000 Well, we have photos and videos seconds before, and there's fires on what, three, four floors?

01:15:36.000 Yeah, on the back side.

01:15:38.000 What they claim is that we're not seeing the front side, of course, that was facing the towers.

01:15:44.000 And it was a towering inferno over there, and somehow didn't... It's funny, I got photos from that side, too.

01:15:51.000 You have photos from the...

01:15:56.000 Yeah, do a Google, but it's in my film.

01:15:59.000 We've got video from all around it.

01:16:02.000 We've got photos.

01:16:04.000 It's ridiculous how many photos there are.

01:16:07.000 It's total lies.

01:16:08.000 And none of them show... One guy said that the bottom seven floors were engulfed in fire.

01:16:15.000 No, that's not true.

01:16:15.000 And that isn't even close to true.

01:16:18.000 No, in fact, the fires, it looks like, are the seventh up.

01:16:22.000 That's right.

01:16:22.000 From the back side, it's only 7th, floors 7 and 12 that you see.

01:16:27.000 So, in any case, that's one of the...

01:16:32.000 Regardless, Professor, what are they going to do, and I've become so desensitized to this, more eyewitnesses to bombs, more eyewitnesses to explosions, more eyewitnesses, you know, so I'm kind of desensitized.

01:16:47.000 I haven't talked enough about this in the last few weeks since this came out, but Professor, what are they going to do just as everyone learns the truth?

01:16:53.000 Is it just going to be like the Kennedy assassination where 90% of us know the truth but nobody gets in trouble?

01:17:00.000 Well, certainly thus far, that's been the case.

01:17:04.000 We're not up to 90% yet, but I think the percentages are pretty high.

01:17:10.000 That Dogby poll in New York showed, you know, many months ago that New Yorkers were about 50% on board, at least for foreknowledge.

01:17:19.000 Well, that was 11 months ago.

01:17:20.000 But now, several, yeah, that's right.

01:17:23.000 So, lots has happened in the meantime.

01:17:25.000 Well, I've got to see an Impoll, 90%. 1.00

01:17:28.000 Yeah, and a lot more books have come out.

01:17:32.000 You know the books by Webster Tarpley?

01:17:37.000 That book is getting a lot of attention.

01:17:38.000 Yes, Synthetic Terror.

01:17:40.000 Well, you know what?

01:17:40.000 I'm getting every week 9-11 books, 9-11 videos in my mailbox.

01:17:45.000 That's right.

01:17:46.000 There's an enormous number of videos that have been made.

01:17:49.000 Somebody gave me the figure the other day.

01:17:51.000 About 500.

01:17:52.000 Oh, I think even higher than that.

01:17:54.000 Oh really?

01:17:55.000 I had an old number.

01:17:58.000 Of course, this is a very visualizable event, so it lends itself to videos in a way more than it does to... I'm not tooting my own horn, but I think the best out there is my new film, Martial Law.

01:18:09.000 Have you seen that?

01:18:10.000 I have not.

01:18:11.000 I need to get you a copy.

01:18:12.000 I'd be glad to look at it.

01:18:13.000 It's got, yeah, well we spent 20 minutes alone on Building 7.

01:18:17.000 It's a three hour video.

01:18:17.000 Yeah.

01:18:19.000 Well, Building 7 deserves at least 20 minutes.

01:18:24.000 Because that is the, that is certainly one of the Achilles Heels.

01:18:28.000 We'll stay there.

01:18:29.000 There's a lot of new developments, folks.

01:18:31.000 Well, we got Professor Griffin here, and I want to go over some of the hundred lies of the Commission.

01:18:36.000 I mean, it'd be like if I had a Commission and I said that George Washington wasn't the Commanding General of the Continental Army.

01:18:44.000 I mean, it's just the blatant lies are so easily, verifiably false.

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01:23:57.000 He's the owner of Building 7 on national TV.

01:24:00.000 He had this to say.

01:24:01.000 Go ahead.

01:24:02.000 I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.

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01:24:22.000 And then later we have clips where they say, pull it means demolish, means control demolition.

01:24:27.000 Let me ask Professor David O'Griffin two things.

01:24:33.000 They've already had a flotilla, squadron after squadron, I mean like twelve shows explaining why the towers fell and lying to us like the commission.

01:24:43.000 Now there's a whole other flotilla.

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01:24:51.000 Not going to work, folks.

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01:24:55.000 So thanks a lot.

01:24:58.000 On National Geographic, on the Discovery Channel, Professor Griffin Well, I pretty much try to just stick to the evidence and not try to get inside other people's minds.

01:25:08.000 Two, why did the military-industrial complex or that small group that orchestrated this, why did they think they'd get away with it?

01:25:16.000 Those two questions.

01:25:17.000 Well, you know, I pretty much try to just stick to the evidence and not try to get inside other people's minds.

01:25:28.000 I have no idea, you know, what this...

01:25:34.000 Clearly, one would assume that the fact that so many new shows are coming out giving the orthodox view of 9-11 suggests that they're no longer just using strategy number one, which is to ignore us, So now they're thinking, well, they have to refute us, not directly, they would never mention us

01:25:58.000 By name to dignify our allegations but simply by putting a contrary story out there through which many people might say well you know what Griffin and Jones and Sharpley and the others say isn't true because here's what's true.

01:26:15.000 So it'll certainly work with a lot of people but people who have already heard your shows and read our books will not be fooled and will hopefully inform their neighbors But you know, the media has already lost so much credibility, I think it'll actually turn a lot of people on.

01:26:33.000 Well, it's possible, and you know, you're mentioning Ray McGovern is very important because he is such a good symbol here for a shift that has occurred because these people who were You know, members of the government.

01:26:56.000 I mean, he was a member of the CIA.

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01:27:05.000 And he was one who had a reputation for great integrity.

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01:27:28.000 And furthermore, when he wrote a letter to the editor of the Washington Post, and he couldn't believe it, they turned it down.

01:27:36.000 Well, I said, Ray, you know, those of us in the 9-11 movement, we've been used to this for a long time.

01:27:41.000 We know that they will never publish any of our letters.

01:27:45.000 So, welcome to the club.

01:27:46.000 So, this was a revelation to a big segment of the people Who did not realize how thoroughly the mainstream media would simply try to cover up a major scandal.

01:28:00.000 And still, they've done it pretty well with the Downing Street Memo.

01:28:03.000 When you realize the implications of that. 0.99

01:28:06.000 Well, we don't talk about fake reporters and gay pleasure slaves in the White House. 0.99

01:28:13.000 I mean, that's not even discussed now. 0.73

01:28:16.000 Yeah, and so when you realize that this story that shows they intended to fix the intelligence prior to attacking Iraq, the fact that that is not a drumbeat on television to this day is a great indictment of the integrity of our mainstream media.

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01:32:02.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

01:32:06.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames were high.

01:32:09.000 A great essay that Professor Dr. David Ray Griffin has written.

01:32:15.000 The 911 Commission Report, a 571 page lie, is what he's saying.

01:32:21.000 He probably should have termed the name of his new book.

01:32:24.000 And we have it on Infowars.com, or just type in the 9-1-1 Commission Report, a 571 page lie, and it'll pop up for you on Google.

01:32:35.000 In fact, I typed in a 571 page lie this morning when I was trying to find it again.

01:32:41.000 It was a few weeks ago when I read it, and it popped up dozens of links right there to different places that have it.

01:32:50.000 So what we'll do is, we'll get the professor to cover three or four big lies, then we'll take a few calls, cover three or four more.

01:32:57.000 There's a hundred, so there's no way to cover them all.

01:33:00.000 And again, that's just some of the lies.

01:33:03.000 But I've said there are over 600 smoking guns that show government complicity.

01:33:09.000 That is a criminal element of the government.

01:33:11.000 Professor, please give us a few of the lies.

01:33:14.000 Well, let's start with Vice President Cheney's whereabouts that morning.

01:33:22.000 The official story up till the 9-11 Commission report had been that Cheney had gone down to the underground bunker at about 9-15 and of course that's the Emergency Operations Center.

01:33:38.000 And one problem arose then was that it appeared that Flight 93 had been shot down.

01:33:46.000 So there was an enormous amount of evidence that it had been shot down at 10-03 or 10-06.

01:33:54.000 And if Cheney was down there at 9-15, that gave him plenty of time to give the shoot-down order.

01:34:00.000 And in fact, Richard Clark had said the shoot-down order came about 9-45 or 9-50, somewhere in there.

01:34:08.000 We have a member of the Cabinet that was there, and Cheney said the order stands as all this was happening.

01:34:13.000 That's right.

01:34:16.000 And this is Norman Mineta.

01:34:19.000 Well, Mineta reinforced that old story, because he said he got to the White House at about 9.15, was told by Clark to go down to the underground bunker where Cheney was, and he got down there about 9.20, and Cheney was there, and clearly in charge, and had been in charge for a while, because there was that ongoing conversation.

01:34:40.000 But he didn't have any of the male escorts down there in the Situation Room.

01:34:46.000 The 9-11 Commission, though, needed to deny that he could have given the order to shoot down Flight 93.

01:34:52.000 So they ignored all the massive amount of evidence that that flight had been shot down.

01:34:59.000 And they rested everything on this indirect argument, well, that Cheney couldn't have given the order in time because he didn't give the order until 10-10, and he didn't give the order until 10-10 because he didn't get down there until Almost 10 o'clock, they speculate, maybe 9.58.

01:35:15.000 In other words, they lie by about 45 minutes in terms of what Norman Mineta had told them in open testimony.

01:35:28.000 So in order to give their story, they had to suppress testimony given to them.

01:35:34.000 And that disappeared from the record.

01:35:37.000 Another one of these is where they denied that FEMA was running Tripod 2 starting the day before and that the Kenney comment wasn't true.

01:35:45.000 And then later, Giuliani gets up and says, and of course that gets exposed too, gets up and says, oh no, there was a Tripod 2.

01:35:54.000 And I know that's totally separate, it's just that they can't seem to get all their lies straight.

01:36:00.000 Yeah, sometimes they contradict themselves, such as when they, in one place, Tell us that Honey Honjour was a terrible pilot, whereas then in another place they say they chose him to fly the plane into the Pentagon because that was going to be a difficult flight and they wanted their most experienced pilot.

01:36:25.000 But he couldn't get a Cessna off the ground.

01:36:28.000 That's right.

01:36:28.000 So right within the report they say he was the worst and the best of the pilots.

01:36:35.000 Wow!

01:36:39.000 My other favorite is the one that you alluded to earlier.

01:36:42.000 You know, of all the issues about the collapse of the Twin Towers, the overwhelming one is the fact that it was a total collapse that resulted in a pile of only a few stories high, reducing these 110-story buildings.

01:37:00.000 And their crucial dimension, of course, was these 47 Massive steel columns that constituted the core of each tower, and there's no conceivable way that the pancake theory could explain why those steel columns would have been broken into small pieces.

01:37:21.000 You know, fire does not break steel into And for those that don't understand what we're saying, you use the great example of the old 45 records, where you have the spindle sticking up, and as they played, they'd drop down.

01:37:35.000 I mean, similar construction, not even as beefy.

01:37:40.000 In Madrid, it burns for a day and a half with 100 foot white flames, and nothing collapses but some little roof metal an inch around.

01:37:48.000 I mean, the main support's rock solid, not even any damage.

01:37:52.000 And, uh, but, oh, not here!

01:37:55.000 Plus, they wouldn't let people examine the steel, but up-close photos that we have gotten show that steel was just cut through.

01:38:01.000 It was blasted through.

01:38:02.000 It didn't melt or bend.

01:38:04.000 Professor did it, Doctor.

01:38:06.000 It was atomized.

01:38:09.000 From all that we can tell, but of course, as you say, part of the problem was, and again, the 9-11 Commission doesn't breathe a word of this, that the steel was quickly removed and sold to A junk dealer who put it on a ship, put it on ships to Asia where it'd be melted down.

01:38:28.000 And they told him, they said, you do not stop for anything in this long hour and a half drive out to the docks.

01:38:33.000 And they had armed guards there guarding it.

01:38:35.000 They put GPS on each piece of steel.

01:38:37.000 The guy stopped for 25 minutes for a hamburger fired.

01:38:41.000 Yeah.

01:38:42.000 I mean, it's like it's a CIA operation.

01:38:44.000 And FEMA said no photos, though we did get photos.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, it's just amazing.

01:38:50.000 So the big lie here, I love quoting this statement, which is that the core of each tower consisted of a hollow steel shaft.

01:39:03.000 So they, as you say, just simply denied the existence of the most outstanding feature of the towers.

01:39:09.000 And you know Napoleon didn't exist either.

01:39:14.000 It's just, uh, it's beyond belief, the, uh, the level of lies.

01:39:18.000 And, uh, back to you.

01:39:18.000 Well, you know, I've noticed now that even these Water the Towers fall and all these shows on NOVA and all that, they repeat that lie.

01:39:26.000 The building was shoddy, an absolute piece of junk, nothing was supporting it.

01:39:30.000 But then I have that big 10-hour series, I bought it, New York for PBS, and they show the central columns and talk about the incredible strength and how it was built to take multiple jet crashes, and look at the size of those pillars!

01:39:47.000 Yeah, so, you know, as long as they're talking to people who don't know the evidence, They can convince them, but the more that people listen to your show and see your videos and read our books, the more people will know that they're just lying through their teeth.

01:40:07.000 Mention a few more of these 100 lies.

01:40:09.000 What are some of the lies that even very informed listeners or myself may not be aware of that you've uncovered in your scholarly research?

01:40:19.000 Yeah, well I distinguish between lies of omission as well as lies of distortion.

01:40:24.000 So you have those explicit lies like the time Cheney went down and the denial of the columns.

01:40:31.000 But most of them are implicit lies.

01:40:34.000 That is where they simply Refuse to acknowledge the existence of something such as the removal of the steel and so on.

01:40:41.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:40:42.000 Do you have in this... I mean, I've read the essay, but I read it a few weeks ago, so I don't remember.

01:40:46.000 Do you have in there where Rice says, we never got a warning, never heard of this, but she had the exact memo determined to attack flight planes in the buildings days before?

01:40:56.000 That's right.

01:40:57.000 I mean, that's one of the kinds of lies, the lies of of rather explicit specific foreknowledge.

01:41:06.000 Give us some of the little manipulative spin lies.

01:41:11.000 Yeah, well, one that I love is the, because I think it's so crucial, when people ask me what are the big four, big five points, I always refer, and I know you've talked about it a lot, but one can't talk about it too much, the way the Secret Service did the way the Secret Service did not whisk Bush out of the school in Sarasota as soon as they knew, given the official story, that the country was under terrorist attack.

01:41:41.000 Because they have very explicit orders, the Secret Service, that whenever there is any sign of danger to the president, they are to take him away to a previously unknown location.

01:41:54.000 Now this is the default setting.

01:41:56.000 Like when you turn your computer on, it launches Windows.

01:42:00.000 You don't have to tell your computer to launch the Windows program.

01:42:03.000 This instantly happens.

01:42:04.000 They will be fired if they don't do this.

01:42:07.000 This is automatic.

01:42:08.000 Even the President is not to know where... And here he was in this school where they had advertised his

01:42:17.000 presence there for several days in advance besides not taking him immediately out of the school to an undisclosed location they left him there for another half hour at least and allowed him to go on national television where in effect he was saying here I am terrorists crash one of your airplanes into the school here and you can kill the President of the United States Not to mention all these children. 0.86

01:42:45.000 Or if there's some ground-hit team of 50 crazed Arabs. 1.00

01:42:50.000 No, I mean, folks, if there is anything going on, they will cancel, they will drag him out.

01:42:56.000 They don't ask, by the way.

01:42:57.000 They go grab him and remove him.

01:42:59.000 But no, no, no.

01:42:59.000 In fact, one of them said, we're out of here, and they said, uh-uh.

01:43:02.000 You didn't get the game plan, did you?

01:43:03.000 You didn't get the memo, did you?

01:43:06.000 That's right.

01:43:07.000 It's only the head of the detail that has to know what to do, and they all obey him.

01:43:12.000 And so the crucial thing here in regard to the 9-11 Commission Report is how they handled this.

01:43:18.000 You would have thought, and if this were a serious commission, they would have been all over the Secret Service, they certainly would have, one of the recommendations would be that the head of the Secret Service would have been fired, if not, you know, put in prison for dereliction of duty, and yet what they said, they just asked him, Well, why didn't you remove the President?

01:43:41.000 And the guy says, well, we didn't think it was necessary to run him out of the room.

01:43:48.000 I mean, he could have walked a foot, a minute, and gotten out of there.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, nobody suggested, well, you know, maybe there was something in between leaving him there for another 40 minutes and running him out of the room like you could have walked him out of the room fairly quickly into the car.

01:44:11.000 Well, it's simple.

01:44:12.000 They had to have him in a public atmosphere so he couldn't be approached to do something about the ongoing attacks.

01:44:18.000 Then Bush said that he had seen the first plane hit, and boy that's a bad pop.

01:44:22.000 People said, well what TV are you watching?

01:44:24.000 Al-Cieda?

01:44:25.000 Because our TVs don't have it.

01:44:27.000 Then we see the Times of London photos of him watching the first smoking tower in the Green Room!

01:44:32.000 He should have been out of there for that!

01:44:36.000 Sure, I mean... Then he tried to lie and say he'd never seen it.

01:44:40.000 I'm sorry to hear that.

01:44:41.000 The quadruple or triple lies.

01:44:41.000 Yeah.

01:44:44.000 Yeah.

01:44:45.000 Yeah, so you've got problems at both levels here.

01:44:47.000 The level of what really happened, and then the level of what the 9-11 Commission did, and of course it's the latter that I'm focusing on.

01:44:56.000 And this illustrates, as well as anything, The fact that this was not a serious commission.

01:45:03.000 Families today have called for a new commission, but do you think we'd ever really get that out of this government?

01:45:09.000 Well, not out of this administration.

01:45:12.000 And this is the other thing, of course, I've harped on a lot, and I stress that we really had here the White House investigating itself.

01:45:23.000 Because the investigation was run, insofar as you can even call it an investigation, by Philip Zelikow, and Zelikow is a member of the Bush administration.

01:45:33.000 Well, Bush appointed the members.

01:45:35.000 How do you call an independent if you appoint them?

01:45:38.000 I don't... Yeah, and somebody who has worked closely with Condoleezza Rice, co-authored a book with her, helped her make the transition into the new administration, And now is appointed with her in the State Department.

01:45:56.000 Well, one of the chairmen is in business through a group with the Carlisle Group and thus the Bin Ladens. 0.59

01:46:01.000 I mean, it's pretty ridiculous.

01:46:03.000 Yeah, and so this is why I call the report, really, instead of calling it just the Cain Report after the chairman, Thomas Cain, I call it the Cain-Zillowcow Report because Well, you know this story, I've made the point before that I suspect that a lot of the commissioners didn't even really realize what they were signing on to when they signed the final document.

01:46:30.000 They are probably going to be shocked like some of the members of the Warren Commission were later.

01:46:34.000 Well, I gotta tell you, I saw some traveling around a few weeks ago, it was on C-SPAN, and they got confronted about The head of Pakistani intelligence wearing $100,000 to Mohammed Ata, being at the Capitol that day.

01:46:45.000 And let me tell you, that chairman, he knew, he looked like a cat caught with a canary in his mouth.

01:46:51.000 He started panicking, just, OK, fine, fine!

01:46:54.000 I mean, I don't know, David, I was pretty suspicious.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, I just say, I mean, clearly they knew in general what they were doing.

01:47:02.000 I'm just saying, I don't know if they knew all the details. 0.88

01:47:04.000 How ridiculous? 0.75

01:47:05.000 Because I suspect that Zelikow simply didn't You know how a cat looks when it's got a bird in its mouth? 0.97

01:47:15.000 It looks all greedy and suspicious.

01:47:17.000 I mean, that's how he looked, and he's sort of panicking, saying, you know, basically, shut up.

01:47:21.000 Have you seen that video?

01:47:24.000 Uh, oh yes, yes, I do know what you mean.

01:47:26.000 I want to hear your question.

01:47:27.000 What's that have to do with you?

01:47:29.000 I mean, he just right away, I mean, you could just, the guilt of these people.

01:47:32.000 Let's take a call from Ed, John, and Mike and others.

01:47:36.000 Thanks for holding forever, Ed.

01:47:37.000 Ed in Utah, go ahead.

01:47:39.000 Yeah, thanks a lot.

01:47:40.000 Let me tie a couple things from my point of view here, Alex.

01:47:43.000 This is a great interview.

01:47:44.000 I started to talk a little bit about Cindy Sheehan, and I made a point that you had told Fox the other night, Alan Combs, about Greg Symanski from the American Free Press newspaper, which also has done a lot of reportage on this, including a review of your book, Professor Griffin.

01:48:02.000 Cindy Sheehan has been cited by your colleague Jeff Renz and the American Free Press newspaper in Washington as having said that her son died for Israel, not America.

01:48:13.000 And my tie-in point to this, Alex, is this.

01:48:16.000 You've had Colonel Don DeGrand Prix, you've had talks with him.

01:48:20.000 The fact is, General Burns obviously was, as you told Alan Combs the other night, General Burns May have foiled another 9-11 plot.

01:48:30.000 He may be out as part of a... It's implied some kind of a coup, a brew.

01:48:35.000 Colonel Don DeGrand Priest said this a couple years ago in the American Free Press newspaper.

01:48:40.000 And when you tie this together, look at Larry Silverstein.

01:48:43.000 His partner was from Israel, Frank Lowry, who had the retail portion of the Trade Center.

01:48:49.000 When you put that together with what Cindy Sheehan is saying about Wolfowitz, Pearl, Doug Fife, Abrams, Henry Kissinger himself, who tried at first to hijack the 9-11.

01:49:00.000 What's your question, just so I can get to it?

01:49:01.000 Well, my question is this.

01:49:04.000 In light of Colonel Dondogon, do you think, Colonel Dondogon, the priest, says the American foreign policy is in the death grip of the Israeli lobby?

01:49:12.000 Well, I think definitely it's one of the most powerful lobbies, especially internationally.

01:49:16.000 But sir, I'll give you my answer, and then we'll come back to Professor Grevin's comment.

01:49:22.000 I go off what the PNAC boys say.

01:49:25.000 It's about domestic police state policy being a war president, so you can't be questioned.

01:49:30.000 Then it's about trillions in oil, and about a military base in the Middle East, and is Israel supportive of that?

01:49:37.000 Are they an aggressive cheerleader of the policy?

01:49:40.000 Yes.

01:49:41.000 But I don't... The global elites wouldn't go along with it if just Israel wanted it. 0.91

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01:53:06.000 He's trying to find the original interview I did with David Shippers.

01:53:12.000 And I know for a fact that audio interview is all over the web, though it's almost four years ago.

01:53:18.000 I interviewed him two weeks after 9-11.

01:53:21.000 I know it's on the web, I know it's on my website, I know the transcript is everywhere, but I'm told that one of my employees couldn't find it for David Ray Griffin, so it may have gotten

01:53:31.000 erased off my site stuff like that happens when it's four years old and we have server problems stuff goes on it gets moved it's mislabeled and there's hundreds of thousands of documents on my website uh... but i know that's everywhere but it's also ten minutes of the interview about the attack on lower manhattan that quote i know that is in road to tyranny so professor why don't you just give people your email address and i'm sure you'll get it within minutes and uh... i'm sure folks can uh... i guess i i

01:54:02.000 I guess you haven't seen Road to Tyranny.

01:54:04.000 I need to mail you a DVD of that.

01:54:06.000 But, uh, why don't you give folks your email or how folks can contact you?

01:54:11.000 Well, uh, let's see.

01:54:12.000 I don't want to hold down just mail, so, uh, um... You won't get too much.

01:54:18.000 I think, standing on air, you'll probably get 50 emails.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, um... Ah, give us the email.

01:54:25.000 Okay, well, I mean, I'll have somebody in my office do it, but I know that thing's all over the place.

01:54:29.000 It's just I'll probably forget and other listeners wouldn't.

01:54:31.000 Yeah, it's just the first hour that I need.

01:54:34.000 The second hour is readily available, but I couldn't find the first hour.

01:54:38.000 Okay, so there is an audio file of me talking to him on the web.

01:54:43.000 Yeah, and the written transcript is available on your website.

01:54:48.000 Oh, so you did find the transcript?

01:54:49.000 Of the second hour.

01:54:50.000 It says this is the second hour.

01:54:53.000 Okay, what specific part are you looking for?

01:54:56.000 The part where he first tells you That he had received information from these FBI agents that there were going to be attacks on lower Manhattan.

01:55:07.000 Oh yeah, that's in my film, with him saying it.

01:55:10.000 Uh-huh.

01:55:11.000 Good.

01:55:11.000 Alright, we'll just get you a copy of that.

01:55:12.000 Okay, that'll take care of it.

01:55:13.000 Okay, great.

01:55:14.000 Let's road to tyranny, folks, if you want a copy.

01:55:18.000 To answer Ed's question, and I want to go to John and Mike at least, and we'll hold the professor over just a few minutes so you can take your calls, but to answer the question about Israel for the caller, Well, what I would say there is, you know, the press has jumped all over Cindy Sheehan for suggesting that the war in Iraq was at least partly for the sake of Israel.

01:55:47.000 Well, Philip Zelikow stated that in a public lecture, so if people are going to be critical, Of that, they should attack Zelikow.

01:55:58.000 Well, me thinks you protest too much.

01:56:00.000 I mean, AIPAC is one of the biggest lobbies running around calling for Armageddon, so I don't know how they could deny that.

01:56:08.000 Yeah, he was quoted as talking about a threat that dare not speak its name.

01:56:16.000 He said that at least one of the prime motives behind the U.S.

01:56:20.000 invasion of Iraq and it was the desire of the Bush administration to eliminate this threat But that they dare not speak its name because, quote, the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically because it is not a popular spell.

01:56:36.000 So Cindy Sheehan is not saying anything outrageous.

01:56:40.000 She could have been, you know, she was at least saying the same thing that Philip Delacalle had.

01:56:46.000 All right, let's cram a caller in.

01:56:47.000 John in Ohio.

01:56:48.000 John, go ahead.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, I've got a couple more things that may take more than a minute.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, sure.

01:56:52.000 I'll hold you over.

01:56:53.000 Go ahead.

01:56:54.000 Yes, Alex, I support the tremendous work you and Mr. Griffin are doing on the 9-11 conspiracy, but I do have to say that an earlier comment you made earlier that I have a disagreement with, and I'll wait until after the... Okay, but it needs to be about... I mean, you can say whatever you want, I don't want to cut you short.

01:57:14.000 It does have to do with 9-11, too.

01:57:16.000 Okay, well, we'll be right back.

01:57:17.000 Let John have a minute more, and we'll talk to Mike in Tennessee.

01:57:20.000 We appreciate Professor Griffin staying a little bit longer with us.

01:57:23.000 And then we've got a guest coming on to talk about that lunatic Tommy Thompson.

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01:58:05.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, end of hour number three.

01:58:08.000 Wow, the last two hours have blasted past us.

01:58:10.000 I know we've got a load of phone lines.

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01:58:23.000 Before, we're going to let John finish up and talk to Mike, the oldest scholars holding for Professor Griffin.

01:58:30.000 9-11 Visibility Project September 11th.org spelled out is the website.

01:58:36.000 They have his 9-11 Commission Report, a 571 page line.

01:58:40.000 That's what he's saying.

01:58:41.000 He should have named his new book, the 9-11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions.

01:58:46.000 Great new book out.

01:58:47.000 Very well written.

01:58:48.000 I've now had a chance to read it.

01:58:50.000 over the last month or so, scanning through it when I had time.

01:58:53.000 And I suggest you get it.

01:58:55.000 You can just type that into Google.

01:58:56.000 It's on Amazon.com and with its publisher all over the place.

01:58:59.000 Okay, real fast, John.

01:59:00.000 Go ahead and make your point.

01:59:01.000 Well, I just wanted to say that it seems like the phony establishment liberals like Soros and Al Franken and the rest of them specialize in claiming that anyone who believes in these conspiracies behind 9-11 are to be barred from the anti-war movement anyway.

01:59:17.000 Anyone who calls for withdrawal like Cindy Sheehan should.

01:59:20.000 No, I agree, and now they're taking control of the operation at Crawford.

01:59:23.000 Yeah, but I believe that those that are most open To these kinds of conspiracies, those who point out that these wars are not just an aberration of a jealous fit by Bush or any of these presidents, are the left, are the communists, are the socialists.

01:59:38.000 They point out, I think, that this is the monopoly corporate connections to it, the military-industrial connections, and they're the most open to the kinds of 9-11 conspiracies.

01:59:48.000 So I see them as the most valuable ally rather than as some kind of... Okay, thanks for the call, John.

01:59:53.000 I've got to let you go because I want to let Mike get on.

01:59:55.000 Comments to that, Professor Griffin?

01:59:57.000 No, go on, go on to the next.

02:00:00.000 Alright, let's go to Mike.

02:00:01.000 Mike in Tennessee, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:00:04.000 Yes, hello Alex, Dr. Griffin.

02:00:07.000 I called before, I'm a structural steel iron worker and welder, and when I talked to you before about the... Yeah, last time you called was when the professor was on.

02:00:16.000 That's right.

02:00:18.000 What I wanted to tell you is what initially got me investigating 9-11.

02:00:25.000 Was the fact that the columns that were left standing when the building fell, looked like they were just snapped off.

02:00:32.000 Like too thick.

02:00:34.000 And I challenge anyone to take a piece of steel, not doctile iron or cast iron, and snap it without it bending.

02:00:44.000 And one other thing, a cover-up that everyone seems to have missed, was in the middle of all that, if you remember the local iron worker union, Yeah, that's right.

02:00:55.000 Let me get a comment from Professor Griffin.

02:00:59.000 Well, that's right.

02:01:01.000 left it open for them to hire whoever who would not question the fact that all those...

02:01:06.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:01:06.000 Let me get a comment from Professor Griffin.

02:01:09.000 Well, that's right.

02:01:11.000 I mean, one of the many scandals that should have been a drumbeat in the mainstream press was this removal of the steel because the fired engineering magazine and even the New York Times was saying this removal of evidence has to stop because normally you can't one of the many scandals that should have been a drumbeat in the mainstream press was this removal of the steel because the fired engineering magazine and even the New York Times was saying this removal of evidence has to stop because normally you can't remove a

02:01:43.000 the Nobody's saying, well, this proves that he's trying to cover things up.

02:01:47.000 That is very few people saying that.

02:01:49.000 Well, in closing, Professor, aren't you worried that the military-industrial complex may carry out another attack?

02:01:55.000 Because it seems like their agenda is stalling everywhere.

02:02:00.000 Well, it's certainly a real danger, because that will distract us from all these concerns, and we've seen many cases before, when there's an uncomfortable story going, then something Does happen that distracts us.

02:02:17.000 And they still control mostly the media, so the media will just follow along.

02:02:23.000 Alright, thanks for the call, Mike.

02:02:25.000 And thanks for Professor Griffin coming on today.

02:02:28.000 Professor Griffin, I want to every few months get you on with an update.

02:02:32.000 A lot of revelations today.

02:02:33.000 Thanks for coming on.

02:02:34.000 Okay, Alex.

02:02:35.000 Thank you for staying on the story.

02:02:37.000 You bet.

02:02:37.000 Sayonara.

02:02:38.000 Vaya con Dios.

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02:05:50.000 You know, ten years ago on the radio, I would have a retired Pentagon scientist on the air about the plans to implant the population with microchips.

02:06:10.000 By 2000, I got an official Army document where they publicly called for it.

02:06:15.000 For the general public.

02:06:17.000 Andy Rooney in 2001 went on TV and said, every American needs a chip to prove they're a good person.

02:06:23.000 And he was serious!

02:06:26.000 And now we have a former governor from Wisconsin, Republican.

02:06:35.000 We have Tommy Thompson, Health and Human Services, traveling the country.

02:06:39.000 Going to the little schools and standing up in a suit and going, get chipped today!

02:06:44.000 That's the slogan.

02:06:46.000 Going on TV and telling the military, hey, chip the troops!

02:06:49.000 It's normal!

02:06:50.000 Look, I'm the friendly big bear, Tommy Thompson!

02:06:53.000 I know, though, we're still the weird ones for reporting on it.

02:06:59.000 It doesn't exist.

02:07:01.000 And Katherine Albrecht, of course, for many years, first started out exposing The loyalty cards at grocery stores, what a scam that is! 0.80

02:07:11.000 And now it's come out that when you buy a pizza, it goes through an NSA type upload to check for warrants, and the NCIC, instead of getting a pizza, you get a SWAT team.

02:07:21.000 And, oh, Bush signs it where every prescription drug you get, whether, again, it's a diaphragm or ibuprofen, it's a prescription, instantly uploaded, no freedom, no Fourth Amendment, every cell phone tracks you down to a few feet, They want to put transponders in all the cars and in their license plates and inspection stickers.

02:07:41.000 A bill almost passed in Texas this year to start it next year.

02:07:45.000 They're going to tax you with it, too.

02:07:47.000 Maybe you don't like being followed and tracked, but how about getting taxed?

02:07:50.000 Being given tickets.

02:07:51.000 Why, from point to point, it shows you spent.

02:07:53.000 They admit all this, so she's been on the cutting edge of exposing this.

02:07:59.000 And we've got her on with us today.

02:08:01.000 We're honored to have her.

02:08:03.000 And now, she's here to talk about the actual quotes of Tommy Thompson!

02:08:08.000 She's got them on her website, and I've got CBS News, I've got a couple other articles where they've got his quotes, and some of them are even worse!

02:08:17.000 We're here delving deep into the rabbit hole, into the Alice in Wonderland, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone dimension, and Catherine, good to have you on with us.

02:08:25.000 Hey Alex, did you ever think we would get to the point where we're having a serious discussion about chip implants, and we've got a major ranking member of the Bush administration sitting there saying that we should put them in the military?

02:08:37.000 Well, I mean, you know that when Bill O'Reilly says it, and you know that I've got Sean Hannity on video going, every child needs a chip, two years ago, I predict, well, you don't get into government-sponsored terror, but I know their agenda, and yes, I did think it would come to this, and what they'll have is a terrorist group who's against chips, and then see, if you won't take the chips, you're a terrorist, but go ahead.

02:09:03.000 Well, you know, that terrorist group may just be the nation's Christians, which is what has me kind of astonished, because here you've got the Bush administration, you've got G.W.

02:09:11.000 Bush not saying a word against this, And yet you've got this 2,000 year old prophecy straight out of the Bible saying there's going to be a market and a number needed to buy and sell.

02:09:20.000 And you've got the Christians getting a little nervous, but not the ones in the administration. 0.95

02:09:23.000 Well, not the big 501c3ers.

02:09:26.000 I've got Pat Robertson on tape saying, oh no, the chip's not bad.

02:09:29.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny.

02:09:30.000 I did an interview with the 700 Club last year.

02:09:32.000 They actually flew me down and we talked about the health effects of the Varichip implant, which I think I talked to your listeners about a while back.

02:09:40.000 I know you've got some information posted on your website at InfoWars.com.

02:09:43.000 Yeah, how they can explode.

02:09:45.000 Yeah, they can explore, they can shift location, they can burn you from the inside out.

02:09:49.000 If somebody sets off an EMP weapon, these things can literally become a molten mass of hot steaming metal and glass, singeing you from the inside of your body out.

02:10:00.000 They're incompatible with MRI machines and they can shift location.

02:10:04.000 I mean, there's really some very serious downsides to taking these implants.

02:10:09.000 And here you've actually got them being promoted as a positive medical device when all the research we've done and everything, even the FDA has come out and said that they're actually dangerous.

02:10:18.000 Well, we have to do this.

02:10:19.000 Two years ago, my cousin, pretty high up in the Army, Came to my house and said it's true.

02:10:24.000 I went to a meeting with about a hundred officers.

02:10:26.000 We were told not to talk about it.

02:10:28.000 We're all getting chips in the next two years.

02:10:29.000 Well, it's been two years.

02:10:31.000 Why has that happened?

02:10:32.000 Because, you know, I've heard a lot of people saying it, but I don't understand it.

02:10:33.000 No, no.

02:10:34.000 This is my cousin.

02:10:35.000 This is my cousin to me, telling me openly that they told him this would happen in two years.

02:10:43.000 I don't know if it's now happening.

02:10:44.000 I know some special forces have gotten it.

02:10:46.000 Wow.

02:10:47.000 Wow.

02:10:48.000 And you know, well, of course you've got Tommy Thompson saying everybody in the military should get one.

02:10:52.000 His quote here, you can also do it, meaning get an implant to replace dog tags with the United States Armed Forces.

02:10:59.000 I'm sure you get a lot of email like I do, Alex.

02:11:01.000 I get email from people in the military who say I'd rather take a bullet than a chip.

02:11:04.000 So I don't know how they think they're going to get away with actually implanting computer chips.

02:11:09.000 They're going to have a national draft after the city gets nuked. 0.84

02:11:11.000 They're going to line us all up and slather us with a chip. 0.99

02:11:16.000 Just slip them right on in.

02:11:18.000 You know, I'm stunned.

02:11:21.000 I've been following this company.

02:11:22.000 I've been following the RFID issue since 2002.

02:11:25.000 And since that time, the Applied Digital folks, the Applied Digital Solutions people out of Florida that manufacture this Verichip and now the Verichip Corporation.

02:11:33.000 Yeah, first they said they would never do this when their own documents showed it.

02:11:36.000 And I'd have the Chief Scientist on, he'd say they would.

02:11:39.000 I'd have the CEO on, he'd say that's ridiculous, we won't.

02:11:41.000 And then now they're running around all over the place.

02:11:43.000 You want to get in the VIP bar or you got to do it?

02:11:45.000 Well, it's really extraordinary how they've kind of changed their story through the years.

02:11:48.000 And, of course, many people way back in, you know, 2001 kind of knew where they were going with it and what their plans were.

02:11:54.000 And now here it is all out on the table.

02:11:57.000 And then it turned out the Jacobsons really worked for him, the evil family that got the chips.

02:12:02.000 I didn't know that Alex.

02:12:04.000 I didn't know that the Jacobsons, the ones that were called by the media, the Chipsons, who took the chips on national TV.

02:12:10.000 It came out in the Miami papers that they were big investors.

02:12:15.000 It's like the hospitals they've gotten to do it are investors.

02:12:19.000 Wow.

02:12:19.000 Oh, you want a quote?

02:12:21.000 I have the Bergen County Police Chief on.

02:12:24.000 They have a police chief instead of a sheriff.

02:12:26.000 I had him on and he said, I'll enforce making you take a chip. 0.57

02:12:30.000 Wow.

02:12:32.000 I'm not kidding.

02:12:32.000 I have the audio clip on the website.

02:12:34.000 Well, the piece I find really extraordinary about this is, you know, here's a company that's kind of been viewed as the black sheep of the RFID industry.

02:12:42.000 I know that the folks who put together the consortium that wants to tag consumer products, you know, the folks from Walmart down to Procter & Gamble.

02:12:50.000 And the Defense Department, yeah.

02:12:51.000 Yeah, all of those folks have really tried to distance themselves from this company and really sort of looked down and said, oh no, you know, they're just a nothing company.

02:13:00.000 Well, IBM doesn't distance themselves, lavishing them with cash.

02:13:04.000 Yeah, well, you know, it's really made a shift and I think that's been the part that I find so significant.

02:13:08.000 I mean, this company has been around touting human implants for a couple of years now, but what's really changed is in the last couple of months, bringing Tommy Thompson on board, getting some of this major media coverage, You know, I did an interview with BBC World Service just a week or two ago.

02:13:24.000 And they actually, with a very straight face, said, will this help prevent things like the London Terrace Bombing?

02:13:29.000 Oh, see?

02:13:29.000 Exactly.

02:13:30.000 No, no.

02:13:30.000 So, you know, we've really come... Look, look, Catherine, Andy Rooney doesn't go on TV and say we all need chips to prove we're good.

02:13:37.000 I'm sure you've seen that clip.

02:13:39.000 I have.

02:13:40.000 I mean, I mean, Andy Rooney doesn't... He's told to say that.

02:13:43.000 There is a... I mean... Listen, I have Sean Hannity going, these are great!

02:13:47.000 I'm gonna buy stock!

02:13:48.000 This is wonderful!

02:13:49.000 Every child needs it!

02:13:50.000 They don't say that by accident.

02:13:53.000 Do we have Howard Stern even joking about how all kids should take one of these implants?

02:13:58.000 It's really been all across the media.

02:14:00.000 No, no, no.

02:14:00.000 They're told.

02:14:01.000 This is part of the agenda.

02:14:02.000 Look, I'm telling you, the military industrial complex is going to be carrying terror out.

02:14:07.000 There'll be guys on TV, you know, another transmission from the Christian resistance, and of course it'll be the government doing it. 0.92

02:14:14.000 Look! 1.00

02:14:15.000 And I'll go, if you take that chip, I'll kill you! 1.00

02:14:17.000 And he'll like shoot a little kid five times in the head, and he'll go, see, if you don't take the chip, you kill children! 1.00

02:14:22.000 And of course it'll all be a government op, Catherine. 1.00

02:14:26.000 Well, it remains to be seen.

02:14:27.000 I know I'm going a little overboard here with you, but I'm just telling you how they operate.

02:14:30.000 Well, I've got to tell you, at this point, Alex, very little would surprise me, since I've seen Tommy Thompson literally standing up there, you know, four-time governor of Wisconsin.

02:14:38.000 I've spoken to people in Wisconsin.

02:14:39.000 He is well-loved.

02:14:40.000 He is... Well, that's how we're going to do it.

02:14:42.000 They're going to have a Christian terror group, and because I'm predicting what they'll do, they'll probably try to even claim I'm involved, which of course I'm not. 0.97

02:14:48.000 It's government-sponsored terror, and they're going to kill people and say Christians are doing it. 0.92

02:14:54.000 Explain the scenario to me, Alex.

02:14:58.000 They will claim that a Christian group is against biometrics and chips.

02:15:02.000 Which many Christians are.

02:15:03.000 And they will claim the Christian group. 0.92

02:15:04.000 I don't mean Applied Digital.

02:15:05.000 They're a front.

02:15:07.000 They would already be gone.

02:15:08.000 They'd be bankrupt.

02:15:09.000 They're a government front.

02:15:10.000 All the evidence shows.

02:15:12.000 What you'll have, this is the scenario.

02:15:14.000 You will have a criminal group within the government that carries out terror attacks and attributes it to an imaginary Christian group who is resisting the mark of the beast.

02:15:23.000 Then, if you refuse to take the chip, you must be with them.

02:15:29.000 Ah, okay.

02:15:30.000 Well, that wouldn't surprise me, frankly, given the amount of craziness.

02:15:35.000 You've always been pretty conservative, so having a governor say, take the chip, is kind of getting you to... Well, I gotta say, Alex, it really has.

02:15:42.000 I mean, you know, after a while this stuff starts to seem so incredibly surreal that you really do say, you know, there's very little that would surprise me from this point forward.

02:15:51.000 And I think I've kind of hit that point.

02:15:53.000 When you've actually got a four-time governor standing up, you've got a technology that we were promised over and over for the last several years would never be used to track people.

02:16:01.000 We've now got them being inserted into passports.

02:16:03.000 We've now got people at the U.S., the Mexican and Canadian borders being issued tags containing these RFID devices so they can be identified coming from 30 feet away.

02:16:14.000 I mean, we've really hit a point where there is an awful lot of double-speak, an awful lot of what we were told would be happening is happening a very different way.

02:16:23.000 And frankly, this technology really does scare me.

02:16:25.000 You know, I'm a Christian.

02:16:26.000 Many people know that about me.

02:16:27.000 Our organization, Caspian, is not a Christian organization.

02:16:30.000 Tonight on Cops!

02:16:31.000 Another family tries to run! 0.98

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02:16:40.000 Well, the part that I think is just so extraordinary... She was a Christian leader!

02:16:46.000 That's why she released the nerve gas in 2009!

02:16:51.000 Now you're scaring me, Alex.

02:16:52.000 And now the public execution!

02:16:54.000 Our world leader demands it!

02:16:56.000 He brings love!

02:16:57.000 Well, but you know, look at our nation's leader, who ostensibly is a Christian, and you're not hearing any of these arguments.

02:17:05.000 Skull and Bones is Christian! 1.00

02:17:06.000 Did I come again with that?

02:17:10.000 Skull and Bones is Christian! 1.00

02:17:12.000 How is that?

02:17:13.000 I don't know much about Skull and Bones.

02:17:14.000 I know that's something you've researched.

02:17:16.000 Well, I mean, I'm in coffins and asking Lucifer to enter your body.

02:17:20.000 I mean, that's Christian!

02:17:24.000 You got me speechless on that one.

02:17:26.000 I'm being sarcastic, Catherine.

02:17:28.000 No, I mean, did you ever see the ABC News footage they got where they're like, ah, Satan, and doing the mock sacrifices?

02:17:34.000 No, I haven't.

02:17:35.000 Yeah, no, type it into Google, you'll get ABC News.

02:17:37.000 Oh, yeah, that's what Bush did to be initiated, uh-huh.

02:17:41.000 We'll be right back with Catherine Albrecht.

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02:21:54.000 This is how they do it.

02:21:56.000 They carry out terror, and then blame it on their opposition, who then isn't even allowed to defend themselves.

02:22:03.000 And the Army didn't come out in 2000 and say, we're gonna chip everybody, and we're gonna have everybody hooked into computers.

02:22:09.000 I mean, they didn't say that for, you know, to play patty cake.

02:22:15.000 Uh, they're not playing games.

02:22:17.000 And when you... I mean, Catherine's talking to the BBC and they're like, well, wouldn't this stop the London bombing?

02:22:24.000 We need to put a chip in you. 0.90

02:22:26.000 This is happening.

02:22:27.000 So, Tommy Thompson is now part of the Get Chipped promotion.

02:22:32.000 Give us some of his quotes, Catherine.

02:22:33.000 Well, Tommy Thompson, of course, and I were both on CBS Market Watch about two weeks ago.

02:22:38.000 And, of course, I gave the usual kind of conservative, hey, I'm not sure we all want to be chipped and tracked everywhere we go.

02:22:44.000 And he left out there with some of these just amazing quotes.

02:22:47.000 One of them says, I can be implanted in your arm within seconds, which I guess is true if you really want to do the speedy version.

02:22:54.000 He says it'll give an identification number so it's very beneficial, it's going to be extremely helpful, and it's a giant step forward to getting what we call an electronic medical record for all Americans, end quote.

02:23:07.000 Which the government's been calling for, biometric scanning of all children at birth.

02:23:11.000 Well, and you know, Alex, they're saying it's going to cost $200 billion to take all of our medical records, make them all electronic, put them all on the internet, and put them all under the control of the federal government.

02:23:23.000 Why in the heck would we possibly want that?

02:23:25.000 And Bush last week signed a law where everything you do, prescription-wise, instantly uploaded.

02:23:31.000 No Fourth Amendment, not even a pretense.

02:23:33.000 Unbelievable!

02:23:34.000 And you know, we can trace all this back to HIPAA, which was the government's, you know, and here I have to say, it really was a pretense at privacy, when in reality, if you carefully read the HIPAA statement that your doctor makes you sign when you go into the doctor, and now even the dentist, even the optometrist makes you sign it, what it says on there is, we have the right to give your information away to researchers, to federal government agents, to blah blah blah.

02:23:57.000 But that's to stop Al-Qaeda! 0.55

02:24:00.000 There may be Al-Qaeda hiding in the drills!

02:24:05.000 I'm not sure how there's a terrorist connection there, but I can certainly... No, no, giving up rights is good.

02:24:10.000 Okay, Catherine?

02:24:11.000 Well, yeah, and you know, I've told this before, I think, to your audience, that, you know, I've talked to young people, teenagers, and I've got to say, people our generation, if you're over 30, you have an obligation to tell people who are under 20 what's going on in the world today.

02:24:28.000 And the real obligation, I think... I remember the old days when we didn't have a camera in the bathroom!

02:24:33.000 I remember in the old days when I had to take 10 pills every morning and worship the global leader.

02:24:38.000 I remember when I didn't have a synaptic nerve brain control modulator.

02:24:43.000 Well, and it's even, you know, the 15-year-old girl who turned to me and said, well, Catherine, I think it's really great that, you know, you're on TV and you're fighting all these privacy invasions and the supermarket cards and, you know, all this stuff, but I got just one question for you.

02:24:56.000 If you got rid of those supermarket cards like you're trying to do, how would the store know what you bought?

02:25:02.000 So you've got these young people just taking it as a matter of course that, you know, global corporations have a right to know.

02:25:07.000 Well, you come back in with your receipt!

02:25:09.000 Well, you know, they've got a right to know.

02:25:09.000 Yeah!

02:25:10.000 Well, did you know that I've seen three different issues of Time magazine for kids with huge lavish articles about in the future you'll be chipped, your parents aren't cool but you are, you know how good the chips are.

02:25:21.000 Wow.

02:25:22.000 Have you seen those?

02:25:23.000 You know, I haven't.

02:25:24.000 I'd like to though.

02:25:25.000 They even play on rebellion!

02:25:27.000 Rebel against them, get them! 1.00

02:25:30.000 Right, right.

02:25:30.000 These stick-in-the-mud parents who don't understand how cool it is to have a chip and to have the supermarket watching what you buy and have your cell phone tracking you around.

02:25:39.000 It's incredible.

02:25:40.000 Your parents don't know how cool it is to be a slave!

02:25:43.000 Well, let me give you another Tommy Thompson quote here.

02:25:46.000 This is the one that really made my hair stand up on end.

02:25:49.000 He says, this is going to give that, really that impetus to get the changing, the transformation, which I call, that's badly needed in our healthcare system.

02:25:59.000 This changing, this transformation, is kind of what we're talking about.

02:26:03.000 It's transforming this notion that you do have some form of medical privacy, this notion that you can take prescription drugs and it's really nobody's business but you and your doctors, and transforming it into this notion that everything is changing.

02:26:17.000 The chip is going to cause a transformation!

02:26:20.000 Yeah, isn't it though?

02:26:23.000 And then he says, the growth of this company is going to be exponential.

02:26:27.000 This is going to be the kind of thing that's going to help kickstart the modern technology.

02:26:32.000 So we're going to transform you!

02:26:35.000 Well, we've been following this, you and I have been following this for several years, and you know back in the early days when they first introduced the VeriChip, they predicted a market of literally billions of people taking the VeriChip.

02:26:46.000 And they said that on their website, they said it in their public statements, we predict a market of literally billions.

02:26:51.000 And how do you get a market of billions of people to take these devices?

02:26:54.000 And they can't even pay people to put these things in their arms.

02:26:57.000 Unless you make it mandatory.

02:26:58.000 And that's very unfair.

02:27:00.000 It's just, sorry, the hospital does not allow you in unless you do it.

02:27:03.000 We refuse care.

02:27:04.000 And that's what they're moving to do.

02:27:08.000 Yeah, well, unless you have the chip in your arm, you may actually not be able to get healthcare ten years down the road when they make the electronic medical records.

02:27:15.000 That's the plan.

02:27:16.000 Absolutely, there's liability for the company.

02:27:19.000 You could have some reaction we don't know about and we're gonna be liable.

02:27:24.000 Listen, it's reasonable.

02:27:26.000 Take it.

02:27:27.000 You'll be transformed.

02:27:29.000 You'll join us.

02:27:30.000 You'll join the new world leader.

02:27:34.000 We're on the march.

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02:30:50.000 Michael...

02:30:53.000 Janice, Ralph, Mike, others, Mitch.

02:30:59.000 We're going to get to your calls.

02:31:01.000 Catherine Albrecht being a real sweetheart with us today.

02:31:05.000 You might hear her sitting in on the show sometime next week if I decide to go out of town.

02:31:08.000 Her and of course Erskine and Jack Blood.

02:31:15.000 I mean, there's so much to talk about, but let's burn it into our brains, and it's refreshing to hear that she's upset about it.

02:31:21.000 She's always been pretty calm.

02:31:22.000 I mean, to have a former member of the cabinet, a governor, traipsing around saying, get CHIP, it's wonderful, kids need it, the military needs it.

02:31:31.000 But I got quotes from speeches he's given where he's saying every child needs it.

02:31:34.000 I mean, they're out in the open, folks.

02:31:37.000 And they're just going to keep acting like they're normal and having these prestigious people push it.

02:31:41.000 And we're weird.

02:31:43.000 We're backwards.

02:31:44.000 Why?

02:31:44.000 They're going to have software comes out that's only activatable through it.

02:31:48.000 It's like nobody asks you if you want it or not.

02:31:52.000 When you go to SeaWorld, they want to thumb scan, face scan you.

02:31:55.000 When you go to Disney World, or when you go on some cruise lines, they just herd you in and have you do it.

02:32:03.000 They're just putting these grids in.

02:32:04.000 Catherine, please continue.

02:32:06.000 Well, you know, you mentioned tracking kids and Tommy Thompson talking about that.

02:32:10.000 It's interesting, right after he publicly went on the board and started making these announcements, the Verichip and Applied Digital folks came out with this big press release that they had foiled a baby abduction from a hospital in North Carolina.

02:32:23.000 Did you hear about this one?

02:32:24.000 Another one of their frauds.

02:32:26.000 Yeah, well they made this big announcement that their Verichip product, which is an ankle bracelet, it's an RFID-based device that they clamp onto the ankle of newborn babies, and they have doorway sensors in the hospital, so if someone attempts to take the baby through the doorway without removing or deactivating the ankle bracelet, it will set off an alarm.

02:32:44.000 Well, a bunch of companies do that.

02:32:46.000 Well, so they came out, yeah, you've got the Hugs and Kisses program, you've got, oh God, they have horrible names.

02:32:52.000 It's amazing.

02:32:54.000 Anyway, so you have this big announcement and they're counted from the rooftops.

02:32:57.000 Our technology foiled a baby abduction.

02:33:00.000 This is a huge danger.

02:33:01.000 We need to tag kids.

02:33:02.000 Then you've got Tommy Thompson saying, we need this to tag kids in hospitals to make them safer from abductions.

02:33:08.000 Well, here's really the scoop on this.

02:33:09.000 We did a little research and we found out, do you know who was trying to abduct that baby?

02:33:14.000 Cough, cough.

02:33:14.000 I put that in quotes.

02:33:16.000 The baby's parents.

02:33:19.000 The mother who had just given birth to the baby and the father of the baby tried to remove the baby because they were afraid that the hospital administrators were going to take the baby from them.

02:33:29.000 And there they had a criminal!

02:33:30.000 Which is what they did!

02:33:31.000 So it's CPS making the parents criminals.

02:33:34.000 What happened to the parents?

02:33:35.000 Uh, you know, that's something we need to follow up on and figure out.

02:33:38.000 Are they cooling their heels in jail right now for trying to remove their own baby from the hospital?

02:33:44.000 So it was not an issue of some stranger abducting the baby, the baby's own mother was trying to... Well, have you been able to get this out in the media and expose their fraud?

02:33:50.000 Well, it's been reported in a couple of different places.

02:33:53.000 We just sent out a newsletter, which, by the way, your listeners should all sign up for our newsletter.

02:33:57.000 You can do that at spychips.com.

02:33:58.000 Just type in your email address and there's a form there, blah, blah, blah.

02:34:02.000 But anyway, we just sent out a newsletter where we talk about that.

02:34:05.000 Um, there have been some reports in the media, but I'd say, you know, 99 out of 100 reports on this said, oh, hooray, this new technology helped foil an abduction, but they don't talk about what the abduction, quote-unquote, was really about.

02:34:17.000 You know, the other thing, Alex, we... The child, the parents who just had their baby, they tried to take it out, and then they're in their bed.

02:34:25.000 And they didn't have the hospital authorization to remove their child. 0.90

02:34:29.000 They're evil! 0.75

02:34:30.000 Yes!

02:34:31.000 They were literally, as far as my understanding, they were arrested for abduction.

02:34:35.000 Good!

02:34:37.000 Evil kidnappers!

02:34:38.000 Taking their own baby!

02:34:41.000 So yeah, definitely.

02:34:42.000 It's interesting here in the state of New Hampshire, where I live, there's been a big push to get more respect for home birth midwives, so people can have their babies at home and avoid it all together.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, the government's moving to stop that, even though statistically it's safer.

02:34:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:34:56.000 And there's many states that have tried to ban it outright, and they're doing all sorts of things.

02:35:00.000 But obviously, you know, your baby's not going to get abducted if you have your baby at home.

02:35:05.000 Well, under New Freedom, they try to drug the mothers and the children.

02:35:09.000 And they spy on the mothers and fill out all these tattletale reports. 0.69

02:35:13.000 Up in Illinois, all mothers will get three CPS visits, whether you're a millionaire or a poor mother on food stamps, all about getting you into the system.

02:35:21.000 Wow.

02:35:23.000 Wow.

02:35:24.000 Did you hear about how they tried to pass a law this year?

02:35:26.000 We narrowly defeated it, but they're going to bring it up next legislative session to put a transponder in the new inspection stickers next year.

02:35:33.000 That's in Texas, yeah.

02:35:34.000 To start taxation immediately.

02:35:36.000 Yeah.

02:35:37.000 We're the radio readers.

02:35:38.000 I mean, folks, this isn't like, you know, over the next hill.

02:35:41.000 This is like in front of us.

02:35:42.000 Well, I'll tell you, Alex, in the book that I've co-authored that's coming out in a little over six weeks now, coming out October 4th, we devote a whole chapter to transportation and RFID-based tracking.

02:35:53.000 What's the name of the book?

02:35:54.000 It's called Spy Chips, and it's available for pre-order on Amazon.com right now.

02:35:59.000 You can see it up on our spychips.com website and get some information about it.

02:36:03.000 It is.

02:36:04.000 I think it's going to really change the conversation about a lot of this RFID technology because we found in their own words some of the biggest corporations on planet Earth very clearly discussing, and never before published information, about their plans literally to track people everywhere they go.

02:36:20.000 Track them in their cars, track them walking on the streets.

02:36:22.000 Unless they're an illegal alien, then they're given more tuition than citizens, they're given home loans, they're They're above the law, but us gullible little compliant slaves, we're going to really enjoy it. 0.98

02:36:36.000 Well, and even the immigrants now are getting tagged, so not so quick. 0.92

02:36:39.000 I'm sure they'd tag everybody if they could.

02:36:41.000 Yeah, it's all selectively enforced.

02:36:42.000 Yeah.

02:36:43.000 But, I mean, I want to take a few calls here, but Catherine, A few years ago, you went to one of their big consortium meetings, big convention in Chicago, and they were saying stuff like, the public hates this in our polls, our internal polls, but they will submit, we will dominate them.

02:37:02.000 The Babylon system of angels is almost ready. 0.94

02:37:05.000 I mean, this is very bizarre and occultic sounding.

02:37:09.000 Can you talk about that?

02:37:10.000 Well, you know, I've attended a couple of their meetings.

02:37:12.000 The first one that I ever went to was back in the spring of 2002, and at that meeting I literally heard people say, won't it be great when we'll know every time the consumer takes the lid off the toothpaste in their own bathroom.

02:37:24.000 And, you know, the plan is to put RFID readers in our medicine cabinets, to put them in our bathroom scales.

02:37:31.000 We report that in the newsletter that went out yesterday.

02:37:34.000 To put them in our refrigerators, in our pantries, so that literally every product you bring into your home... It's like the black box in your car has that history.

02:37:42.000 It's actually, it's like the black box in your car, but it's recording, you know, at what time someone removed the, you know, the psycho-whatever medication from the shelf, and how much it weighed when they took it out, and how much it weighed when they put it back, and who the individual was who picked it up.

02:37:56.000 So all of this information.

02:37:58.000 The other piece, Alex, that I found shocking... We have a world free of Al Qaeda!

02:38:03.000 Well, this is a different security issue.

02:38:06.000 What's wrong with you people?

02:38:07.000 Just take it!

02:38:09.000 Well, of course, we'd have the world free from people not following the prescription instructions that they were given by their doctors.

02:38:16.000 And we've got new freedom where we've got to drug everyone.

02:38:19.000 Well, and the concern the pharmaceutical industry has is that 50% of people do not fill the prescriptions they're written.

02:38:27.000 So they want to make sure that not only are you taking the drugs that you get, but that you're filling every prescription you're issued.

02:38:33.000 So when the doctor writes you a prescription, we've all had the experience of going to the doctor because you just wanted to make sure something wasn't serious, and he goes, oh, it's not serious, but here's a prescription anyway.

02:38:42.000 And they give you a big thing of painkillers and you don't want them.

02:38:46.000 So, you know, just so you know, I earned my $100 for a retro prescription.

02:38:50.000 And, you know, most of us go, you know, I don't really need that.

02:38:52.000 I just wanted to make sure I wasn't dying of, you know, a brain hemorrhage or something.

02:38:55.000 No, I've got, like, antibiotics from, you know, when I went to the doctor five years ago in the cabinet.

02:39:02.000 Yeah, well, and a lot of people just throw away the prescription pad, you know, the piece of paper, because they don't need the prescription.

02:39:07.000 They don't need the drug.

02:39:08.000 The doctor gave it just in case you felt like you needed it, you didn't feel like you needed it.

02:39:11.000 That might be criminal.

02:39:12.000 We better track that.

02:39:13.000 We better swap chemo.

02:39:15.000 And then if there's any plates in the sink, we better take their children. 1.00

02:39:18.000 Well, what's funny about it, Alex, is that the pharmaceutical industry views that as you're somehow costing them money because a legitimate doctor gave you a legitimate prescription and you failed to comply by not filling that prescription.

02:39:30.000 Yes!

02:39:31.000 So they call it prescription compliance.

02:39:33.000 They talk about losing billions of dollars every year because people don't comply with their prescription requirements.

02:39:38.000 Well, have you heard the news saying where The biggest janitor company, 500,000 employees, exterminator companies, truck drivers, they're all spying on you when they're in your house.

02:39:49.000 And the cops can't do that, and what they're doing is criminal too.

02:39:52.000 I mean, we are really becoming a nightmare place.

02:39:56.000 This is people you hire to come in and clean your business or your home, and they're reporting back if they see anything unusual to Homeland Security?

02:40:03.000 Is that the idea?

02:40:04.000 Yes.

02:40:05.000 Wow.

02:40:06.000 Yeah, but I mean, it's like being institutionalized across the board.

02:40:10.000 It's like something straight out of the KGB. 0.70

02:40:12.000 Well, let me give you guys a little bit of intellectual ammunition next time you're arguing with somebody who says this is going to make us safer.

02:40:18.000 I don't think I've ever found one of those people.

02:40:21.000 Everybody I know is against it.

02:40:22.000 They just keep moving forward.

02:40:23.000 Well, I know a lot of people who say, well, you know, maybe it's okay.

02:40:26.000 Maybe it's a good idea.

02:40:27.000 You know, if the government can watch us more closely, they'll keep us safe.

02:40:30.000 And if you ever hear anybody say that, and I know some of you have heard me on the radio before.

02:40:33.000 They're nice people.

02:40:34.000 But let me tell you, What I always reply is, I say, who in the 20th century were the most surveilled people on the planet?

02:40:40.000 And the answer is probably the people living in Stalin's Soviet Union. 0.74

02:40:44.000 They, you know, you had KGB running around... Oh no, it never, giving up liberty gives you tyranny, it doesn't give you security.

02:40:49.000 Absolutely.

02:40:50.000 So you had, you know, they could intercept your phone calls, they could send a neighbor over to your barbecue and listen in on your conversations, report them back to the government, they could intercept your mail, they could, basically everything you did was...

02:41:01.000 society, everybody uses it in business against each other, or somebody wants your wife, or somebody's jealous of you, or they're just a nutcase, and those people rise up through the ranks, and then pretty soon people go, I'm not going to produce anything, I'm just And so your way of rebelling is just being a lazy sloth.

02:41:20.000 Then there's forced labor camps, which they admittedly are building.

02:41:23.000 Did you know about the forced labor camps?

02:41:25.000 I've heard something.

02:41:27.000 I've had county commissioners on from Oregon who've been to them.

02:41:30.000 The government admits it.

02:41:32.000 Speaking of Oregon, they introduced a bill that if you download music, 25 years in a forced labor camp.

02:41:38.000 Okay.

02:41:39.000 And the governor of Rhode Island tried to pass a martial law bill saying for any reason they could arrest you.

02:41:46.000 Oh yeah, it's called enemy combatant.

02:41:49.000 Okay, wow.

02:41:50.000 Well, let me just finish my one thought, because you always have me think of way too many things at once.

02:41:56.000 Let me just finish the one thought.

02:41:57.000 The idea that somehow being surveilled makes us safer, you can simply point to the example of the Soviet Union under Stalin and his predecessors, or the folks who came after him.

02:42:07.000 And you can say, did that make them safer?

02:42:10.000 Being watched, being observed, having their phone calls and their mail intercepted, having everything they did watched, did not make them safer.

02:42:16.000 Actually, that was the bloodiest, most ruthless regime in the 20th century.

02:42:21.000 And Stalin's government killed 60 million of its own people for opposing the government.

02:42:27.000 He liberated. 0.80

02:42:29.000 They were traitors.

02:42:31.000 Liberated from food and Ukraine?

02:42:34.000 It's good to listen.

02:42:35.000 It's good for a country to spend all its time spying and dabbling.

02:42:39.000 That's what the Founding Fathers called for.

02:42:42.000 Catherine, once you get re-educated, it's going to be okay.

02:42:45.000 Re-educated, yeah.

02:42:46.000 Well, there you go.

02:42:47.000 Give us your website.

02:42:50.000 Go ahead.

02:42:51.000 Give us your websites again.

02:42:52.000 Okay, website spychips.com.

02:42:53.000 You can get information about our book.

02:42:55.000 You can sign up for our free newsletter that goes out about once a month, sometimes a little less frequently if we're super busy, but we try to keep you on top of the news.

02:43:03.000 We've got our website at nocards.org, and No Cards is the one that talks all about the supermarket cards and how they're using Uh... dossiers of information on the food purchases that you make, how that information gets stored and used against people, and how it's just anti-liberal.

02:43:16.000 That's freedom!

02:43:19.000 I judge freedom by how many people are in prison and how little freedoms we have.

02:43:24.000 You know, I ran into a lady in England, and she goes, I think we should give up our freedom for liberty.

02:43:28.000 I'm sorry, our liberty for freedom.

02:43:33.000 You're making me think of something, Alex.

02:43:34.000 You know the, um...

02:43:37.000 The RFID reader devices, people who have heard me before know that there's a plan afoot to put a tiny RFID tracking device into every consumer product manufactured on earth to replace the barcode.

02:43:48.000 They love to have it this year, but they're behind.

02:43:50.000 Well, they're too expensive yet.

02:43:51.000 When they come down to a couple pennies apiece, we'll start seeing them pop up.

02:43:54.000 And they've also got a lot of consumer opposition.

02:43:56.000 A lot of people don't like this.

02:43:59.000 Down the road, they'd like every pair of socks, every Calvin Klein sweatshirt, every pen in your pocket to have one of these RFID tags in it.

02:44:06.000 And the question really is, well, don't worry about the privacy implications, folks, because the reader devices, it's not like we're going to have reader devices everywhere.

02:44:14.000 Well, we've done some digging around, and this is all revealed in our book, Spy Chips, coming out in October.

02:44:19.000 We did some digging around and we found that the companies that manufacture those anti-theft portals and doorways at, you know, regular retail stores, you walk through and it sets off the alarm.

02:44:29.000 Well, they've already said they're going to put those in, yeah.

02:44:31.000 Well, they are migrating those.

02:44:33.000 The two companies that make them, Checkpoint and Sensormatic, are migrating those to become RFID readers.

02:44:39.000 So what that means is they can slip an RFID tag into the loyalty card in your wallet, into your passport, into your shoe, the layers between your shoe, into the label of your clothing, all of which we've seen, by the way.

02:44:51.000 And as you walk through that security portal that you think is just an anti-theft device, they could be scanning you head to toe and identifying you in a secure way.

02:44:59.000 Well, they admit it.

02:45:00.000 They're going to get your identity, which is more freedom.

02:45:02.000 Let's take a call.

02:45:04.000 Let's take a call.

02:45:04.000 How dare!

02:45:05.000 Not before!

02:45:07.000 She's evil! 1.00

02:45:08.000 She doesn't love our government! 1.00

02:45:10.000 Uh, let's go ahead and, uh, who's up next here?

02:45:14.000 Mike in Chicago, you're on the air, Al Qaeda member. 0.99

02:45:17.000 Thank you, Alex, thank you.

02:45:18.000 Um, two couple quick things real fast.

02:45:21.000 I want to go back real quick to 9-11.

02:45:23.000 When he sat there and waited until the Pentagon got hit, because a domestic military installation got hit, he automatically gets war powers.

02:45:32.000 So sitting there biding his time allowed him to not have to go to Congress to Control the media to, you know, wage war whenever he wants to, wherever he wants to.

02:45:41.000 So don't forget that little bit.

02:45:42.000 Go into the chips real fast.

02:45:44.000 Chips will make you as secure as the cameras did, so that'll help with the London bombing.

02:45:48.000 As far as making people take them, let's say there's a bio-attack, and the only way that you can get your vaccination is if you get your microchip.

02:45:57.000 Would you be willing to take it?

02:45:59.000 Maybe not right away.

02:45:59.000 Actually, it was Tommy Thompson who said everybody needs to be forced to take the injection.

02:46:03.000 Well, hey, you might not take it right away and you might resist it for a little while until your neighbor gets sick and dies or a cousin gets sick and dies and then you'll be standing in line with everybody else waiting to get it.

02:46:14.000 Receiving the transformation, the blessing.

02:46:17.000 That's right.

02:46:17.000 Two other things real quick and then I'll jump off here.

02:46:19.000 Verichip is a subsidiary of Digital Angel Corp.

02:46:24.000 and all airbags already have GPS in them.

02:46:26.000 Have a good one.

02:46:27.000 Take care.

02:46:28.000 Well, from my research, Applied Digital's debt is owned predominantly by IBM.

02:46:34.000 So it's really, I mean, look, I've looked into it, and I'm sure you have too, Catherine, that all your other big computer companies, Motorola, IBM, they've all been developing sub-thermal chips too, quote, in R&D.

02:46:46.000 So it seems like really, Applied Digital is the front to prance around promoting it.

02:46:55.000 You know, if you look at Applied Digital's history, there's been some research that's been kind of interesting into all of the sort of financial shenanigans.

02:47:03.000 There's a lot of people who think it's just a stock scam.

02:47:07.000 You know, that literally they're putting... I mean, I'll give you some evidence.

02:47:10.000 Back in October, October 12th of 2004, when they announced their FDA approval, that the FDA had actually approved the use of this as a medical implant, some of the key folks in the company, some of the key stockholders divested themselves of their stock after that announcement.

02:47:26.000 Now, it would seem to me that when you get a big publicly, you know, positive announcement, like, now that's the time you buy more stock, not the time you cash out.

02:47:33.000 You know, I'm really questioning how serious these folks are about their long-term business.

02:47:38.000 I think IBM sued them, too, over that.

02:47:40.000 Well, they've been sued by all kinds of folks, and they've had a turnover.

02:47:45.000 They've got a revolving door over there with some of their senior managers.

02:47:48.000 They've got the Pentagon and Thompson all about promoting for them.

02:47:53.000 Remember when the Chimpsons got chipped?

02:47:54.000 That was on every TV channel everywhere, and it was so positive, and their stock plunged by like 90%?

02:48:01.000 Yeah, well, they did a stock split that actually changed the value of their stock.

02:48:06.000 They've done lots of stock shenanigans over the years, so you can go back.

02:48:09.000 There's lots of evidence on that company of, you know, they've gotten reprimand letters from federal agencies.

02:48:16.000 I mean, they've been in trouble over the years.

02:48:18.000 Catherine, we could trust you if you had a chip.

02:48:20.000 I mean, Andy Rooney says so.

02:48:22.000 The man we could trust from 60 Minutes.

02:48:24.000 Why don't you rather just take it?

02:48:27.000 Yeah, we gotta stop fighting, huh Alex?

02:48:30.000 Not in your life.

02:48:31.000 And the chip on the sciatic nerve they just approved, won't that make you better?

02:48:35.000 What's that one?

02:48:37.000 You didn't hear about the brain chip approval?

02:48:39.000 Oh no, oh no.

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02:54:06.000 Anton in Texas, last caller we have time for.

02:54:09.000 You're on the air with Kathryn Albrecht.

02:54:11.000 Go ahead.

02:54:12.000 How's it going?

02:54:13.000 I just wanted to know if anyone has even thought about making some sort of RF jammer.

02:54:19.000 They have things that fry them and erase them, but Kathryn comments. 0.72

02:54:24.000 Well, you've got two different things.

02:54:26.000 One is jamming the reader devices, which would be a violation of FCC regulations and would land you probably some serious fines and possibly even prison time.

02:54:34.000 So even if you can find a way to do it, probably not the best idea because it's easy to pinpoint the location.

02:54:42.000 Yeah, so there's your one problem.

02:54:52.000 The other problem is it's possible to kill a tag, but it's not possible to do it safely right now.

02:54:58.000 In our book, Spy Chips, we show actually pictures of tags that we put in the microwave for just six seconds and they're charred and burnt.

02:55:04.000 Yeah, they explode.

02:55:05.000 Yeah, and your other problem is if you, you know, these things are going into Michelin tires, these things are going into things that are a little too big to stick in your microwave.

02:55:13.000 You know, ultimately they want to put these into cash, and if you put that in the microwave and blew out the chip, you would essentially invalidate your cash.

02:55:19.000 Yeah, they admit that Europe and the U.S.

02:55:21.000 and the Japanese are testing this right now.

02:55:23.000 Looking into it, and, you know, but the problem is that you don't want your cash to be trackable, you kill the chip.

02:55:28.000 You just invalidated your $100 bill because it's in there to prevent counterfeiting, and that's how they validate that it's real.

02:55:34.000 So down the road, you know, killing chips may not be your best bet.

02:55:38.000 Anyway, visit our website spychips.com if you want to order our video.

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02:55:50.000 Thanks.

02:55:50.000 Okay, Catherine, thanks for coming on with us.

02:55:52.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

02:55:53.000 Thanks for having me.

02:55:53.000 You bet.

02:55:54.000 Take care.

02:55:54.000 Anything else you want to say, Anton?

02:55:57.000 Not much.

02:55:58.000 I wanted to hear more about the brain chip, but maybe next time.

02:56:00.000 Oh, you know, that's a sciatic stimulator to make you feel better. 0.99

02:56:03.000 And we say you're mentally ill, so you have to take it. 0.93

02:56:06.000 That got FDA approval about a year ago. 0.91

02:56:08.000 Alright, keep up the good work.

02:56:10.000 Thank you, buddy.

02:56:11.000 Appreciate it.

02:56:12.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight, and throughout the weekend, and of course back on Monday, and throughout the week, so be sure and join us.

02:56:20.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - August 22, 2005

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