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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:22.000 Welcome, my friends, to the 29th day of September 2005.

00:00:34.000 We're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:38.000 Coming up, we have Minuteman President Al Garza coming on the broadcast to talk about their next move to defend our southern borders.

00:00:50.000 And how they've been demonized!

00:00:51.000 I saw one of the local chieftains at the ACLU two weeks ago in the local paper saying they're terrorists who will blow things up!

00:01:01.000 And I mean, if there was ever a lawsuit for libel for slander, I mean, that's it!

00:01:06.000 You know, he said it to a newspaper, which is slander, and they printed it, which is libel!

00:01:12.000 I mean, imagine!

00:01:15.000 The Minutemen have never done anything wrong!

00:01:16.000 They've never hurt anybody!

00:01:19.000 And sure, the ACLU can disagree with them, but call them terrorists.

00:01:26.000 And Lloyd Doggett says they're really Ku Klux Klan, when there is zero evidence of that. 0.93

00:01:33.000 Folks, there aren't very many Ku Klux Klan people out there, and most of them can't even get out of bed in the morning because they've drunk so much whiskey the night before, and might have one or two teeth in their whole heads, and are literally retarded. 1.00

00:01:48.000 I mean, that's really all I can say about it.

00:01:52.000 And to try to claim that people that want to defend the sovereignty of this country, there's six and a half billion people!

00:02:01.000 In another five years, they'll be close to seven billion.

00:02:05.000 They all want to come here.

00:02:09.000 We're only 300 million now.

00:02:11.000 We're right at 300 million.

00:02:14.000 And a good 50 million of those are illegal aliens.

00:02:17.000 30 million of them from Latin America.

00:02:20.000 I mean, our economy is in shambles.

00:02:23.000 We can't take any more.

00:02:26.000 You hear this line of, well, we've got all these people here to pick the lettuce and the tomatoes.

00:02:33.000 Nobody wants those jobs. 0.93

00:02:35.000 Boulderdash. 0.99

00:02:38.000 Boulder Dash, folks.

00:02:39.000 They get together in their own construction guilds and they undercut everyone, including Hispanic Americans. 1.00

00:02:47.000 They get together in their own guilds and they buy up all the hotels.

00:02:53.000 They operate on a racial level. 0.75

00:02:57.000 They operate on a tribal level.

00:02:59.000 I mean, I don't know of a small hotel in the United States that's not owned by Indians.

00:03:05.000 And nothing against Indians, folks.

00:03:08.000 But they undercut, and then it brings the economy down.

00:03:12.000 We're competing against third world labor pools.

00:03:18.000 Alright, side issue, we'll get into that later.

00:03:21.000 It's one of the most central issues in the country, but a side issue before we get our guest on.

00:03:27.000 That is coming up, and also we have a 9-11 whistleblower, expert, researcher, author, lecturer, journalist joining us.

00:03:38.000 Coming up, Mr. Hicks, coming up a little bit later.

00:03:41.000 They have confirmed Lord Roberts.

00:03:43.000 John Roberts will now be the Chief Justice.

00:03:46.000 He has been a Bush toady his entire life. 0.67

00:03:49.000 Good little White House minion.

00:03:53.000 And, of course, he did vote along with secret arrest of citizens and secret detention.

00:03:59.000 He supports the torture doctrine.

00:04:01.000 Torture first, ask questions later.

00:04:05.000 He supports the doctrine, the Gonzales doctrine, that Bush is absolute God-Emperor.

00:04:11.000 And by the way, I'm not joking about that.

00:04:12.000 Gonzales really says that Bush is total ruler.

00:04:16.000 I mean, God-Emperor, folks.

00:04:18.000 Above the law.

00:04:19.000 He makes the law.

00:04:21.000 He could, if you take it to the extreme, barbecue small children on the White House lawn.

00:04:27.000 And he is God-Emperor, so that is legal.

00:04:31.000 I mean, they say they can torture people to death, and it's not bad.

00:04:35.000 So, uh, basically, you know, they are killing children in Iraq, so it's the same thing. 0.91

00:04:40.000 Uh, and, uh, Bush supposedly is now mentioning some other people who they might want for Senator O'Connor's slot.

00:04:49.000 Believe me, folks, there's a lot of news coming up after this quick breakie.

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 All right, we are 8 minutes 30 seconds into this first hour, and we do have the president of the Minutemen, Al Garza, joining and we do have the president of the Minutemen, Al Garza, joining us to talk about the latest plans they've got to defend

00:08:44.000 Also, I'd like Mr. Garza to defend himself from the vicious attacks, the scurrilous attacks, the unfounded, unwarranted, baseless, unbelievably ridiculous attacks Uh, upon the Minutemen by the local ACLU here in town that is really out of control and endangers the ACLU itself.

00:09:06.000 I mean, this, you know, the ADL's gotten in trouble for shooting their mouth off and I think a ten million dollar judgment is in order for the local ACLU of Austin.

00:09:15.000 And they're not invincible.

00:09:18.000 You know, they're always dishing it out.

00:09:20.000 Maybe they need a little bit of a little bit of a serving of it themselves.

00:09:26.000 They can dish it out.

00:09:27.000 Can they eat it? 0.98

00:09:29.000 They said the men are terrorists and are going to blow things up. 0.87

00:09:32.000 Just an amazing statement.

00:09:34.000 Just out of the blue.

00:09:35.000 You can't say that about people.

00:09:37.000 You can't say... It would be like if they said Alex Jones is going to bomb.

00:09:43.000 Alex Jones is a killer. 0.83

00:09:44.000 I mean, you say that about me, I don't want to have to sue people, but at a certain point you have to defend yourself. 0.98

00:09:52.000 So say that about me and watch what happens.

00:09:55.000 You've been getting away with it far too long.

00:10:00.000 So Minutemen, moving in early.

00:10:01.000 Border Patrol deployment prompts premature launch for Civil Defense Corps.

00:10:08.000 The Minutemen Civil Defense Corps of Texas will begin their operation here sooner than expected in response to a development of Border Patrol agents to aid in hurricane disaster areas.

00:10:19.000 And Vicente Fox is on TV.

00:10:22.000 I have the video clip.

00:10:24.000 Saying that the border's wide open, come across, come across.

00:10:27.000 Actually, using the hurricane to say, for the next six months they're not going to look at your papers.

00:10:33.000 For the next six months you don't need papers to get hired.

00:10:35.000 Go across, move, move. 0.99

00:10:37.000 I mean, launching actual invasion.

00:10:39.000 Then it meant President Al Garza confirmed Wednesday that about 50 of the organization's volunteers would come to Brownsville this month for early implementation of the Operation Secure Our Borders.

00:10:50.000 Minutemen officials do not publicize when they will arrive or when they will set up camp.

00:10:55.000 Traditionally, they have limited their activities in Texas to private properties where landowners have requested their help.

00:11:01.000 And the Brown Berets have been a communist, Mexican supremacist, KKK organization. 0.97

00:11:08.000 They openly promote the plan of San Diego folks to kill all white males above the age of 16. 0.98

00:11:14.000 They run about foaming at the mouth saying that they are making threatening comments. 0.99

00:11:20.000 I was talking to one of these characters and they said, if the minute men come here, we will shoot them.

00:11:27.000 I'm just like, oh, that's very friendly.

00:11:29.000 The Volunteer Border Watch Group, dedicated to stemming illegal immigration, will head to other states in Rio Grande Valley, Texas, and other border states.

00:11:40.000 And by the way, there's other quotes by other radical Hispanic groups saying, we don't count Mr. Garza, and we don't count other Hispanics that are in the minute men.

00:11:51.000 What about a third of the men and women are Hispanic?

00:11:53.000 We don't count them as Hispanic! 1.00

00:11:56.000 They are gringo, traitor, interlopers. 1.00

00:11:58.000 I mean, it's just weird, weird craziness. 1.00

00:12:02.000 I mean, George Bush is saying, Cattle on your neighbor, watch your neighbor, do you smell marijuana?

00:12:06.000 Call the police, it's terrorism.

00:12:09.000 I mean, we got reports where a man and woman argue on a ferry.

00:12:13.000 So Homeland Security pulls them off and you're going to be charged with terrorism.

00:12:19.000 I mean, this is the mentality.

00:12:20.000 Just everything is micromanaged, but then millions of people are pouring across the border.

00:12:25.000 There's burning vehicles, rocket attacks, machine guns, 600 plus deaths in the first eight months of this year on the Texas-Mexico border.

00:12:34.000 I mean, it is hell on earth.

00:12:36.000 You don't believe me?

00:12:38.000 Masses of human sacrifices.

00:12:39.000 Hundreds of dead bodies have been dug up.

00:12:41.000 Oh, don't believe me?

00:12:43.000 Just type in human sacrifices, satanic death cults, Texas border.

00:12:46.000 You'll get Texas monthly AP Reuters.

00:12:49.000 San Antonio Express News.

00:12:50.000 I mean, it's like some type of Rodriguez film or something.

00:12:55.000 I mean, those films are based on what's really going on down there.

00:12:59.000 I mean, it is just an insane asylum of evil and craziness.

00:13:06.000 And it's a big secret!

00:13:10.000 Okay, I've got a lot of other news to cover and I'm starting to rant as I do normally.

00:13:14.000 But it's just crazy.

00:13:17.000 And then we want to do something about it, so we're wicked demons.

00:13:21.000 We're wicked, evil demons.

00:13:24.000 White House moves to prevent run on petrol supplies.

00:13:29.000 And actually, this will cause a run on petrol supplies.

00:13:34.000 This is what they do.

00:13:35.000 They create artificial panics, which they pre-positioned for, to now make billions of dollars per day in the commodities market, which is now happening.

00:13:44.000 And, uh, they, uh, it's just disgusting.

00:13:46.000 They're behind the peak oil movement, declaring there's no oil.

00:13:50.000 Meanwhile, the Saudis are reporting they've found double their oil supplies they thought they had just a year ago.

00:13:56.000 They're finding giant oil reserves everywhere, near the surface, all over the world.

00:14:01.000 But meanwhile, the oil companies openly pay through tax-free, so-called liberal foundations, that then attack the oil companies on the surface.

00:14:08.000 They play the ruse, they play the shill, the foil.

00:14:12.000 And they tell you, a little shell operation, that there's no oil and we've got to jack the prices up.

00:14:22.000 Meanwhile, the oil companies all register record profits in their histories.

00:14:27.000 Oh boy.

00:14:28.000 White House Moves to Create Run on Petrol Supplies is how the Financial Times of London should read, but it actually reads, White House Moves to Prevent Run on Petrol Supplies.

00:14:40.000 President George W. Bush call for the U.S.

00:14:45.000 public to conserve energy is aimed at preventing a run on petrol at a time when the U.S.

00:14:52.000 is precariously short of it.

00:14:55.000 Oh, he's so gracious.

00:14:57.000 Energy companies have been trucking fuel in from various parts of the U.S.

00:15:01.000 to restock pumps that run dry in Texas.

00:15:04.000 Boy, that's true.

00:15:06.000 A lot of pumps are dry right now, following two hurricanes that struck the heart of the nation's energy infrastructure and a massive evacuation that cut into much-needed supplies.

00:15:15.000 This has stretched already tight national petrol supplies.

00:15:18.000 The President's best bet for the next two weeks is to try to see if he can get Americans to stop doing discretionary driving without creating panic.

00:15:28.000 Don't panic, folks, which creates panic.

00:15:30.000 Said Amy Myers, JAFE Research Fellow at the James A. Baker III Institute.

00:15:34.000 I mean, James A. Baker, folks, is a larcenous criminal.

00:15:39.000 I mean, he is one of the top mobsters. 0.70

00:15:42.000 He's a big oil company maven.

00:15:47.000 So he's, you know, he's going to tell us that he's going to try to stop the profits. 0.94

00:15:55.000 I mean, this is ridiculous. 0.90

00:15:56.000 This is like the fox saying, I'll guard the hen house, you can trust me. 0.85

00:15:59.000 Research fellow at the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy.

00:16:03.000 He's in a very challenging position, oh yes.

00:16:06.000 The U.S.

00:16:07.000 petrol market lost close to 800 million gallons of petrol.

00:16:13.000 That's a four day supply.

00:16:16.000 In the evacuation of about three million people from Houston ahead of Hurricane Rita, although Houston was not hit, forecasters have projected that the fourth biggest U.S.

00:16:24.000 city would be in the eye of what was a Category 5 hurricane.

00:16:29.000 That boosted regional demand four to five times higher than normal, as Residents Fled Baker Institute research showed.

00:16:36.000 In the end, Hurricane Rita released its fury on the Gulf Coast during a drilling area, damaging more offshore rigs than any storm ever, before hitting four refineries on the Texas-Louisiana border.

00:16:49.000 And Dwayne Coots, our IT specialist, who's been helping keep InfoWars and Present Planet running for the last four years, his home is in water, he's been in a hotel for a week, his business, which is internet service all over Louisiana and Texas, is gone.

00:17:08.000 And he is running out of money.

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00:17:35.000 They're at Crawfish Net doing it previously.

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00:17:46.000 They're about 30 miles from the coast.

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00:24:52.000 Ronnie Earl knows all about serious, unbelievable corruption.

00:24:59.000 We have personally brought him evidence of major theft going on in the city.

00:25:04.000 I mean, red-handed, witnesses, you name it.

00:25:08.000 And he doesn't do a thing.

00:25:09.000 Now, you know, the attitude is, well, what's $200,000?

00:25:12.000 We've got bigger things to deal with.

00:25:14.000 Well, this country's in trouble, folks, if, I mean, red-handed admissions caught red-handed people admitting what they did, and Earl did nothing.

00:25:24.000 But, I mean, if that's true, that he couldn't do anything because there's stuff so much bigger to deal with, we've got a problem.

00:25:31.000 But, uh, that's a whole other separate subject.

00:25:35.000 Tom DeLay is a slimebag. 0.99

00:25:38.000 Tom DeLay is a fake neocon Christian. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Not a... I mean, by his actions and his votes, I've got a serious problem with this guy.

00:25:49.000 And Tom DeLay clearly tried to get around campaign finance laws in the state of Texas, which are felonies.

00:25:57.000 And they clearly did, basically, the evidence shows.

00:26:00.000 And they got the checks, they got the list, they got the witnesses.

00:26:03.000 Basically, a bunch of Republicans were on that grand jury, by the way.

00:26:09.000 Basically laundering money through the state to the RNC and then back down to the state.

00:26:17.000 And, uh, I think it's healthy.

00:26:19.000 I think, uh, DeLay ought to go to prison.

00:26:22.000 But, that said, I want Bill Clinton in prison. 0.89

00:26:25.000 I want Hillary Clinton in prison. 1.00

00:26:27.000 I mean, they got Chinese generals giving them money in the White House.

00:26:29.000 They got convicted cocaine dealers.

00:26:32.000 But, you see, that isn't going to happen because George Bush blocked the congressional investigation.

00:26:36.000 Now, the silver lining in all of this is, this is an example of the power of grand juries.

00:26:42.000 If a grand jury out there wants to go after Bush, I mean, the stuff he did with Enron, on the surface, is totally criminal.

00:26:50.000 Just felonies here, there, everywhere.

00:26:53.000 But no indictments.

00:26:55.000 The stuff with Dick Cheney in the White House, giving the Halliburton and Bechtel and Lockheed contracts, when his wife's on the board of Lockheed, when he's got that trust fund off of Off of Halliburton.

00:27:11.000 I mean, this is all criminal, folks.

00:27:13.000 We had presidents that had to resign.

00:27:15.000 We had Speakers of the House that had to resign.

00:27:17.000 We've had people go to jail out of Congress for stuff that isn't one-one-thousandth of what we're openly, publicly witnessing.

00:27:28.000 It is politically motivated.

00:27:29.000 The Democrats are having the state taken away from them.

00:27:32.000 Big money.

00:27:33.000 Millions of dollars they steal and suck out of bid rigging and all the stuff they do.

00:27:38.000 And so this is all-out party warfare.

00:27:40.000 This is mid-level party people engaged in mortal combat with each other.

00:27:46.000 And, you know, we've had Ronnie Earle go after Kay Bailey Hutchinson for using computers illegally.

00:27:53.000 Her office government computers for campaigning.

00:27:56.000 And, you know, that's why when I... People want me to run for state legislature, which we knew we could win.

00:28:01.000 But I look at the rules, there's actually no way to perfectly follow them.

00:28:06.000 I mean, they're written where it's selectively enforced.

00:28:10.000 In fact, you can't run a campaign and follow the laws.

00:28:13.000 They are that restrictive.

00:28:14.000 Now, what DeLay did was clearly egregious and a clear violation.

00:28:19.000 But I'm talking about... It doesn't matter.

00:28:21.000 You cannot follow the election laws in this state.

00:28:25.000 And you cannot follow the new federal laws.

00:28:27.000 So, it's... Tyrants always make everything illegal. 0.96

00:28:31.000 And then they basically license in through executive fiat and then through selective enforcement, then control everyone through that system.

00:28:39.000 So I, you know, I ran for office for about two weeks until I started looking at the laws.

00:28:44.000 And before I started raising money, I mean, it was horrible, folks.

00:28:51.000 I mean, I looked at the laws and I was just like, this has been written where I, I mean, where I cannot run for office. 0.94

00:28:57.000 And it says I was stupid, I don't want to run for office, I'll never run for office. 0.96

00:29:00.000 I was talked into it. 1.00

00:29:03.000 Running as a Republican.

00:29:06.000 And, was that about eight, nine years ago?

00:29:09.000 And I will never do that again.

00:29:11.000 Because it's just, you cannot do it.

00:29:13.000 And believe me, I mean, if you're clean, they'll come after you.

00:29:18.000 Like they've done Tom Tancredo, they've tried it with Ron Paul, they did it with Senator Smith.

00:29:23.000 Great American.

00:29:25.000 Alright, we'll uh, we got an audio clip about armored personnel carriers coming up.

00:29:30.000 We got the President of the Minutemen, the original biggest chapter.

00:29:34.000 And uh, we have got a lot more coming up today, and in one hour, in three minutes, I have got a special announcement.

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00:32:59.000 They mailed against the crowd.

00:33:12.000 Another red tag band.

00:33:15.000 Declaring independence. 0.67

00:33:19.000 Take their bodies down.

00:33:25.000 Oh, On a bloody war and liberty for their descendants.

00:33:32.000 Thanks to the renegades.

00:33:35.000 My friends, the federal government is controlled by private corporate interests.

00:33:40.000 We've had the president of the Border Patrol Union on.

00:33:43.000 In his words, this is for one world government.

00:33:47.000 America is to be destroyed.

00:33:49.000 We've had congressmen on, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo.

00:33:53.000 They agree America is to be sacrificed on the altar of globalism.

00:33:59.000 There are six and a half billion people.

00:34:01.000 In five years there will be seven billion people.

00:34:04.000 Billions of them want to come here and under these International American Union Treaties, they openly want to bring hundreds of millions more here.

00:34:16.000 The government says brace for terror attack any minute.

00:34:20.000 Tattle on your neighbors, but how dare the Minutemen, Bush has said, how dare the Minutemen be down there, you know, these vigilantes, and then meanwhile the local socialists here in town Call the Minutemen all sorts of slanderous names, and then claim, Judge Bush has sent them, you know, playing party politics.

00:34:41.000 Incredible courage, wonderful people, who simply are defending this nation.

00:34:47.000 I mean, I have an article here out of the El Paso newspaper yesterday, where Russians, Chinese, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, are just pouring across at record levels, thousands every day, in El Paso.

00:35:01.000 They're not even arresting them, they're not interdicting them, nothing's being done!

00:35:06.000 Now, we don't have a country if we don't control our borders.

00:35:10.000 All those other countries control their borders, but we're bad if we want to control ours. 0.83

00:35:15.000 This is a way to bring this country down.

00:35:18.000 And two weeks ago, two Sundays ago, there was an article, of course, demonizing myself and others in there for protesting I don't want to hear that the founder of Texas was Hispanic, the person who had the plan to secede from Spain before Mexico even did was Hispanic, that over a third of the people that fought the Revolutionary War were Hispanic.

00:35:44.000 They want to act like everybody's at each other's throats and everybody hates each other.

00:35:48.000 And then they want to call our guests horrible names.

00:35:52.000 And they want to, I mean, one of the top ACLU people here, look, we said they're going to carry out bombings.

00:35:56.000 They're going to bomb things.

00:35:58.000 I mean, this is slander.

00:36:00.000 Got a major lawsuit.

00:36:02.000 And we're joined by Minuteman President Al Garza.

00:36:05.000 They've been very, very busy.

00:36:06.000 They're now launching new operations in Texas and other areas.

00:36:09.000 Mr. Garza, we're honored to have you with us.

00:36:12.000 Thank you so much for having me on your show.

00:36:14.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got involved, and what the Minutemen are really all about.

00:36:14.000 You bet.

00:36:18.000 Then I want you to talk about some of your new operations that are coming up.

00:36:22.000 I'd be happy to.

00:36:23.000 First off, I'm a Texas boy.

00:36:25.000 I was born in Raymondville.

00:36:27.000 I was raised in Pharr, Texas, down in the valley.

00:36:30.000 And about 1960, I believe, we moved into Southern California.

00:36:35.000 From that point, 1965, I graduated from high school.

00:36:40.000 I went into the Marine Corps and I honorably served the Marine Corps for four years.

00:36:45.000 I'm a combat veteran, a Vietnam combat veteran.

00:36:48.000 And a few years later I became a private investigator.

00:36:51.000 And by the way, I retired from that business a couple of years ago.

00:36:55.000 And I moved into close to Tombstone, Arizona, where I became familiar with the term Minutemen.

00:37:04.000 I met Mr. Chris Simcox, the co-founder of the Minutemen Project.

00:37:11.000 He was on a TV show, I forget the name of the TV show, but it was during the evening and he was focusing on illegal immigration, which by the way I was totally oblivious to at that time.

00:37:19.000 I knew it existed, but I didn't know the degree of its origin.

00:37:27.000 I began to notice little things like trails, backpacks, soiled underwear, jeans, you know, particles of clothing, blankets, not to mention the Containers of water jugs, things of that sort.

00:37:44.000 Trails of Kentucky Fried Chicken.

00:37:46.000 And I became suspicious.

00:37:49.000 I wondered what this was all about.

00:37:50.000 Well, once I met Mr. Simcox, he introduced me to what is now known as the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

00:37:58.000 And I became involved with it based on two issues.

00:38:02.000 One, I knew that at that point in time we obviously had a big problem with illegal immigration, but what really convinced me was the fact that Mr. Simcox being a white, so to speak, in terms of the what people for some reason tag us as white supremacist and what not.

00:38:20.000 Well, he was very compassionate.

00:38:21.000 What I really mean by that is the fact that in this one particular day that I was introduced to him, he was gracious enough to allow me the opportunity of watching what he did.

00:38:30.000 And oddly enough, we fell across what appeared to be about 50 illegal immigrants.

00:38:36.000 Among the group were two elderlies, a male and a female.

00:38:38.000 I'm assuming they were companions.

00:38:40.000 They were quite distressed from their long journey through the desert.

00:38:43.000 And you're talking about the elements of the desert.

00:38:45.000 I mean, they're killers.

00:38:46.000 And these two people were completely distressed. 0.64

00:38:48.000 Not only distressed, they were dehydrated and virtually almost dead.

00:38:53.000 Well, this convinced me because Mr. Simcox, the first thing he did, he reached over in the back of his truck and he offered them water, made sure that they ate and took care of them, nourished them and whatnot.

00:39:05.000 And then he called the EMTs and obviously the Border Patrol.

00:39:09.000 I've been with them now for almost two years, and we've been instrumental in the saving of 162 lives, and not to mention the dead bodies that we found.

00:39:09.000 The rest is history.

00:39:19.000 I mean, that's inhumane, what's going on.

00:39:22.000 Well, I was going to say that, Mr. Garza, a Minutemen president.

00:39:29.000 Al, when we look at the media going, the Minutemen are secretly killing people in the desert, the Minutemen keep them from getting water.

00:39:36.000 No, it's this illegal immigration system that causes hundreds of people to die in the desert every single year.

00:39:43.000 It's the criminal activity, it's the illegal system that's causing it.

00:39:46.000 And I'm tired of you guys being slandered.

00:39:49.000 Are you aware of what one of the ACLU people said about About you and the local paper?

00:39:54.000 I haven't read the paper.

00:39:55.000 I'm not sure, but I'm sure it wasn't good.

00:39:57.000 Well, I mean, I read it on air two weeks ago, and it was the Sunday issue two weeks ago, and he said they're terrorists.

00:40:02.000 You watch, they're going to bomb stuff.

00:40:04.000 Oh, I believe they're capable of doing that.

00:40:07.000 They're really capable of doing that.

00:40:09.000 If you really... Why on earth would they just say some total lie about you?

00:40:14.000 Well, you know, the ACLU has a nasty habit of, first off, portraying and deceiving the public.

00:40:21.000 I call that being a distractive.

00:40:22.000 What they do is they start calling names, and racist is one of them. 0.86

00:40:26.000 In fact, they've tagged me as the racist with a brown face.

00:40:29.000 I mean, how racist can you get?

00:40:32.000 And they simply do not want our borders to be secured.

00:40:36.000 They want the continual flow of illegal immigrants to come into this country. 1.00

00:40:42.000 Well, and my point of view is this, you know, you're welcome to our country, just simply stop at the front door and sign the guest book.

00:40:48.000 We'll welcome you with open arms.

00:40:50.000 I mean, after all, our nation is, we're nothing but immigrants, most of us, the majority of us.

00:40:57.000 Well, absolutely, but I mean, look at this in a little bit more detail.

00:41:02.000 By calling everybody a racist, it then lessens that term, and everybody's getting sick of it, and they're crying wolf, and now nobody's even taking them seriously anymore.

00:41:12.000 Well, that's correct.

00:41:13.000 What they've done is they got hit by their own ricochet.

00:41:17.000 And then this has been a habitual way of doing business.

00:41:21.000 In fact, there's a gentleman by the name of Ray Ybarra that has a nasty habit of doing the same thing, trying to provoke the Minuteman into incidents, which obviously are not going to happen. 0.95

00:41:30.000 and it's all backfired on him and he's making a fool of himself.

00:41:33.000 Well, another thing is Metsha, La Raza and the Oslon groups, I'm sure you've become familiar with them now.

00:41:38.000 Sure.

00:41:39.000 I mean, I've gone and protested the Klan myself ten times.

00:41:42.000 We went and pulled the tapes and counted it up.

00:41:45.000 And, you know, I don't like those groups, but I'm telling you, I've been to protest them. 0.99

00:41:48.000 They don't say a tenth of the, I mean, savage, let's kill whites, and I mean, this is insane. 0.99

00:41:55.000 These groups are like foaming at the mouth. 0.93

00:41:58.000 Well, you know, it's been their agenda all along, from what I understand, and reading my history back to the 1800s, early 1800s, I believe in the 28, 34, something like that.

00:42:09.000 They've really won a Mexican takeover from Mexico.

00:42:12.000 Mexico takeover, I should say.

00:42:14.000 And they're nearly by numbers, and they've been doing that very well.

00:42:17.000 And by the way, the other way to conquer us is simply by going into our public services, I should say, and rip us apart.

00:42:29.000 And they're virtually draining our systems, depleting it out of virtually billions of dollars.

00:42:33.000 Yeah, it's like $6 billion a year alone in California, just in welfare, not counting hospitals and everything else.

00:42:39.000 Exactly.

00:42:40.000 A lot of these hospitals, by the way, are having to close down The bankruptcy primarily because, and chiefly because, they're exhausted.

00:42:47.000 There are major cities that don't have emergency rooms anymore.

00:42:51.000 That's correct.

00:42:53.000 And the ones that suffer from all this are the American citizens.

00:42:55.000 By the way, the hospitals, and I cut my finger off, folks, and when I got there, I was watching illegal aliens go right ahead of me, and I had an insurance card, and I talked to the doctor, and they said, look, the city's told us, because we know they don't have money, they go to the front of the line automatically, and then people that have money or have insurance, we've got to screen you. 0.99

00:43:14.000 So I'm sitting there with my finger chopped off, wanting it reattached, and I'm watching illegal aliens with stomachaches go ahead of me. 0.96

00:43:20.000 That's correct.

00:43:21.000 Welcome to America.

00:43:22.000 You know, that's what happens.

00:43:25.000 And American citizens are frustrated, they're angry, they've had enough.

00:43:30.000 I, for one, I'm up to the tip of my head.

00:43:34.000 I will bow no more.

00:43:36.000 This is another reason I joined the Minuteman.

00:43:40.000 And by the way, the Minuteman Project is not a vigilante group.

00:43:43.000 They're a bunch of good American citizens that love their country, and they too have had enough.

00:43:49.000 We are sending a strong message to our President and our Congress and to Mexico as well.

00:43:54.000 Do things by the law.

00:43:55.000 Our laws are supposed to be enforced.

00:43:57.000 We're a nation of laws.

00:44:00.000 And we want our borders completely shut down, and that's exactly what we're going to do. 0.98

00:44:04.000 We are not going to leave until we're relieved by the National Guard.

00:44:07.000 Well, sir, isn't Mexico also using us because of their oppressive practices? 0.99

00:44:11.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:44:12.000 As a steam valve, like Castro used Miami as a steam valve to dump his dregs? 0.95

00:44:18.000 Absolutely.

00:44:19.000 Absolutely.

00:44:20.000 What they're doing is they're sending all the peons through.

00:44:22.000 All their sick leave, all their unwanted, all their discards. 0.99

00:44:24.000 I mean, and I hate to use those terms, but that's what the facts are.

00:44:28.000 They're sending them all here so that they can reap the harvest, not just in work. 0.51

00:44:33.000 Which, by the way, a lot of that is a big fallacy.

00:44:36.000 The big lure here, like we were just mentioning, are the benefits that they're entitled to receive in their vocabulary.

00:44:44.000 Oh, I know, my wife speaks fluent Spanish and we talk to these immigrants all the time and they go, yeah, we're here for the handouts. 1.00

00:44:50.000 Absolutely!

00:44:51.000 Well, it's their own fault, you know.

00:44:53.000 Now again, most of them come here and work, but they couldn't survive if it wasn't for the supplemental money on top of it.

00:44:59.000 So they lower the wages, and then the government supplements them for the corporations who want to drive down all our wages.

00:45:05.000 That's correct.

00:45:06.000 And they're doing a bang-up job of it.

00:45:07.000 I mean, they're ripping us apart.

00:45:10.000 And our President and our Congress just sits there and does the Washington two-step and do nothing.

00:45:17.000 They wink an eye and nod their head and say, oh, well, we'll see about this tomorrow morning.

00:45:21.000 So the Minutemen, every morning, we sat on their bench like an 800 pound gorilla, looking at them right in the face.

00:45:26.000 We're not going away until we're completely satisfied, and until then, we're staying.

00:45:31.000 I want to talk more about your operations, and how it's spread in all these different Minutemen groups around the country, and how you deal with infiltrators and things of that nature, but what I say to the Laurie Conquistas is, and I've actually woken a few of them up who aren't just purely evil, Hey, you say you're taking America.

00:45:47.000 What are you going to get when you take America? 0.83

00:45:49.000 If the Mexican government's so good and you're going to get the Southwest, what are you going to get when you take over? 0.94

00:45:54.000 You're now in America.

00:45:56.000 Most of you are American citizens that are leading this.

00:46:00.000 You're already here.

00:46:01.000 You already are America.

00:46:03.000 Why don't you just look at what country's better?

00:46:05.000 America's obviously better. 0.96

00:46:08.000 Well, that's correct.

00:46:09.000 Even if we were to give, let's say, the four states, which they want, In the worst way, that would be Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.

00:46:18.000 If we were to give them those four states, you would be talking about maybe a few years before it would become a total disaster.

00:46:26.000 But, I mean, if they were, quote, given the states, I mean, do they think they're going to be, you know, given the big houses and given the big cars?

00:46:32.000 I mean, again, it doesn't make sense.

00:46:34.000 It's just like a mindless promise.

00:46:38.000 Now, you know, we've talked about, sir, Al Garza, why the government wants this.

00:46:43.000 I mean, clearly, it's not just Mexico.

00:46:45.000 It's our government.

00:46:46.000 Well, that's true.

00:46:47.000 You know, I wish I could think the way they can.

00:46:51.000 I was a private investigator for many years, and I can put on different hats and try to and different levels of intelligence.

00:46:57.000 But I'll tell you what, for the God's sake of me, I can't figure this one out.

00:47:01.000 I can only come up with theories, and I can only speculate that a lot of it may very well have to do with the big corporations that obviously are giving these politicians a big, big plug in terms of money for their runnings and stuff.

00:47:16.000 I mean, that would be one thing.

00:47:18.000 No, that's the big part of it.

00:47:19.000 Also, balkanizing the country like a Tower of Babel, so we can't communicate.

00:47:23.000 Correct.

00:47:24.000 But, uh, let's get into your operations.

00:47:28.000 It seems to me, from talking to people in news reports, that the minions of the corporations, the fake liberals, try to demonize you guys, but that's backfired on them as people realize just how hate-filled they are.

00:47:41.000 That's correct.

00:47:42.000 See, we follow our SOPs.

00:47:44.000 We took a lot of time and we made a role model out of our Arizona project and we're following the same footsteps.

00:47:52.000 And if we maintain our SOPs and do them properly and follow it to the T, because we are law-abiding citizens, we follow that, it will succeed.

00:48:02.000 And the other thing is the way they're trained.

00:48:04.000 They're trained very, very intense and it probably entails about a four-hour In terms of time for training, and by the time they walk out of here, they know exactly what they've got to do.

00:48:17.000 And our job is really quite simple.

00:48:19.000 It's only to observe, spot, and report.

00:48:21.000 We do no patrolling.

00:48:23.000 We do no confrontations.

00:48:25.000 And we offer water.

00:48:27.000 And like I said, the role model comes from Arizona.

00:48:29.000 We didn't have any incidents there.

00:48:30.000 We've had none in the last two years, and we anticipate no problems whatsoever out here.

00:48:36.000 Absolutely, so are you in Texas already?

00:48:40.000 Yes sir, I'm in Falfurias as we speak.

00:48:42.000 I'm beginning to get our lines all stretched out and today will be one of those days tomorrow and obviously we'll kick it off on the 1st.

00:48:49.000 You're in South what?

00:48:51.000 Falfurias.

00:48:55.000 Can you tell us the particular area?

00:48:57.000 Absolutely, it's out anyways in the website.

00:48:59.000 I'm in Falfurias which is off the 281 just Just south of the valley, I'm saying about maybe 60 miles or so.

00:49:08.000 To show my ignorance, I don't know the town of Furious.

00:49:10.000 Okay, so do you know Alice?

00:49:12.000 Yes I do.

00:49:13.000 Okay, it's not far from Alice, Kingsfield area?

00:49:15.000 Oh sure, I've been down there a lot, yeah.

00:49:17.000 Correct, that would be Felfurious.

00:49:19.000 And the reason we chose Felfurious is because the Mercy Cry from the different ranchers, we heard their cry a year ago.

00:49:27.000 So we've been working at this for well over a year.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, you're down there by King Ranch.

00:49:30.000 There you go.

00:49:31.000 Exactly.

00:49:32.000 I should have mentioned that.

00:49:33.000 That's absolutely right.

00:49:34.000 So you're down there where Los Zetas is running around murdering people?

00:49:37.000 That's correct.

00:49:39.000 That's correct.

00:49:40.000 You know, that's an important point.

00:49:41.000 You know, we had to close the U.S. 0.98

00:49:42.000 mission there in Nuevo Laredo.

00:49:45.000 There have been 600 plus deaths in the last eight months on the border.

00:49:48.000 I mean, it is literally a war zone down there.

00:49:51.000 Yeah.

00:49:52.000 It's been that way for decades, to be quite frank with you.

00:49:55.000 It would be synonymous to El Campo, which is in California by San Diego.

00:50:01.000 They have the same kind of philosophy and the same kind of virtual trails.

00:50:04.000 Also indicative of the Tucson area in Arizona, and obviously New Mexico, there's a pilot place there also as well.

00:50:13.000 I forget, I think it's Columbus, that they're very, very similar in the way they They bring in their stuff.

00:50:20.000 Well, you know, they're trying to paint you guys with a tail and hooves and horns.

00:50:24.000 But, I mean, you're down there in a literal war zone, folks.

00:50:27.000 I mean, these cities are shutting down.

00:50:30.000 No tourism, rocket attacks.

00:50:32.000 I mean, it's like Vietnam. 0.61

00:50:33.000 I mean, we're not... It's the most dangerous area now.

00:50:36.000 The State Department says it's more dangerous than the West Bank.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, no, it's correct.

00:50:40.000 And you know, that's the sad part when they say that we're in dangerous grounds in our own country.

00:50:43.000 That says it all to me.

00:50:45.000 And you guys are heroes being demonized for going to a war zone.

00:50:45.000 Well, it does.

00:50:49.000 I mean, you're serving your country again.

00:50:51.000 Sure.

00:50:52.000 They use that as a distracting.

00:50:53.000 The fact is that if we shut down our borders, we wouldn't have the problem.

00:50:57.000 We've got to do one more segment with you.

00:50:57.000 Stay there, sir.

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00:54:10.000 Welcome back.

00:54:15.000 Our final segment with an individual I really want to get back on the show sometime.

00:54:20.000 I want to come interviewing for my TV broadcast who can show people the truth here in Austin, Texas.

00:54:25.000 Marine Corps veteran, American patriot, Al Garza.

00:54:29.000 I mean, the South Texas area is, I mean, Dallas Morning News, folks.

00:54:34.000 I mean, it was in the San Antonio Express News, the town of El Cenizo flies the Mexican flag.

00:54:38.000 No American flag flies and you're not allowed to speak English in court proceedings.

00:54:43.000 And why does our government love that?

00:54:45.000 Because they want to turn us against each other and get us all fighting.

00:54:48.000 It's called divide and conquer.

00:54:51.000 Al Garza, please give us the websites for the original Minute Man branch and how folks can come get training and get involved with you, sir.

00:54:59.000 Absolutely.

00:55:00.000 I'd be happy to.

00:55:02.000 It's www.minutemanhq.com.

00:55:08.000 Again, it's www.minutemanhq.com.

00:55:14.000 Now, you guys had thousands of people out in the field earlier this year in Arizona.

00:55:19.000 How many are you going to have in the field in this first little mission?

00:55:22.000 Well, I'm hoping to get 1,000.

00:55:25.000 As I looked over my shoulder here, I was given a figure.

00:55:28.000 We're at approximately 600 and growing each and every minute.

00:55:32.000 So, hopefully we'll reach 1,000.

00:55:33.000 If we don't, we'll still consider it a success because even if one American is interested in our project and volunteers with us, I certainly would call that a success.

00:55:42.000 And obviously, I mean, you've been up against enemies before.

00:55:47.000 Are you worried about the threats from the Communist Brown Berets?

00:55:50.000 Not at all, sir.

00:55:51.000 I think the biggest threat is coming to us as a nation, as a whole.

00:55:57.000 So for me to be a small part of the history and the makings here, I think it's a small price for me to pay.

00:56:04.000 Being on the inside of the Minutemen and knowing that what we hear in the controlled media is a complete fraud, I mean, does it make you angry?

00:56:11.000 Very angry.

00:56:11.000 I mean, you know, I go back five generations, Greg, and my grandfather served in World War I, my dad served in World War II, and obviously I served in Vietnam, so we are a Five generations of Americans, as far as we're concerned, and we're very patriotic.

00:56:27.000 Our flag means a lot to us.

00:56:29.000 It's very, uh, we glorify our flag.

00:56:31.000 Our nation means a whole lot to us.

00:56:32.000 So, again, it's a small price to pay, and I get very angry at these people that try to portray an American as a vigilante or as a yahoo or a KKK.

00:56:41.000 It's just a distractive, but it still angers me.

00:56:43.000 No, you're right.

00:56:44.000 It is a big, fat distraction, and I don't think it's working anymore.

00:56:47.000 Not anymore.

00:56:48.000 It's, uh, it's again, it's like a ricochet on them.

00:56:50.000 It's, uh, They've mirrored themselves and bombarded themselves with their own mud. 0.89

00:56:56.000 And to me, that's pleasing.

00:57:00.000 Alright, so can folks come down to South Texas right now and get the training and get involved?

00:57:06.000 Absolutely, they're welcome to come down and see us.

00:57:08.000 I can give an address out if you'd like, Greg.

00:57:10.000 Sure.

00:57:11.000 It's 4731 South Highway 281.

00:57:17.000 And Thalfurius, it's F-A-L-F-U-R-R-I-S. 1.00

00:57:23.000 I-A-S, I'm sorry.

00:57:25.000 Or they can go into our website.

00:57:27.000 And then you've got the number here to our landline, and it's 361-325-5121.

00:57:34.000 The more the better.

00:57:35.000 Oh, give us that number again.

00:57:37.000 361, area code, 325-5121.

00:57:43.000 All right.

00:57:44.000 Well, I really appreciate you coming on.

00:57:46.000 I know you're very busy, Al.

00:57:47.000 I look forward to talking to you again.

00:57:49.000 Can you give us a report sometime next week?

00:57:51.000 I'd be happy to, Craig.

00:57:51.000 Absolutely.

00:57:53.000 I've enjoyed your show, and I'll tell you what, I can tell you're truly an American, and I love that.

00:57:58.000 Well, thank you.

00:57:59.000 We really appreciate you coming on the Jones Report here, and take care, Mr. Garza.

00:58:03.000 Thank you so much for having me on the show, buddy.

00:58:05.000 God bless you.

00:58:07.000 Alright, the guy's been doing 20 interviews a day.

00:58:09.000 I can't get mad at him for getting my name wrong.

00:58:11.000 Folks, listen.

00:58:13.000 Get involved in this.

00:58:16.000 These are good people.

00:58:17.000 And they've been lied about, and it's not working anymore, and they're just down there reporting criminals, coyotes, drug gangs coming across.

00:58:25.000 I mean, that's not bad.

00:58:27.000 That's good.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Well, the Bush administration is saying we could have massive fuel shortages in the next few months.

00:59:21.000 They're already on the edge of a snapping point right now, they're saying, and of course they're doing that.

00:59:25.000 There is some problems.

00:59:26.000 They're doing that to try to create panic so that the oil companies make even more money.

00:59:30.000 This just follows their classic activities back with their Enron scamming days.

00:59:35.000 I do have more to say about Tom DeLay being indicted, being here in Austin, Texas, knowing the District Attorney, Ronnie Earle, I can tell you quite a bit.

00:59:44.000 So, you know, it's just basically two creatures, two goblins fighting with each other.

00:59:50.000 You know, a lesser demon going after a larger, uh, you know, goat of Menendez, goat of Mendez.

00:59:56.000 So, uh, we'll, uh, we'll discuss that.

00:59:59.000 And we'll also later, of course, take your phone calls.

01:00:01.000 I have a clip here.

01:00:02.000 I see like five of these articles every day.

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01:00:09.000 All over the country, they're buying their assault tanks as the government becomes our owners, as the government, you know, learns to subvert its slaves.

01:00:16.000 Just like they've captured Iraq, they're now trying to capture America. 1.00

01:00:20.000 And just a lot more coming up today.

01:00:24.000 We're going to have, here in just a second, Sander Hickson with us, an author, researcher, interesting fellow, talking about 9-11 and several other big issues.

01:00:33.000 But at the bottom of the hour, I will take about four minutes out for something I've got to say.

01:00:39.000 Something that's got to be done.

01:00:41.000 That's got to be exposed.

01:00:44.000 So that special announcement is coming up.

01:00:47.000 I'm not going to enjoy saying this, but I'm going to have to.

01:00:50.000 Let's go ahead and go to Sander Hicks.

01:00:53.000 Well, I hope to keep a little bit of the next hour with us and also take calls.

01:00:57.000 Sander, good to have you on with us.

01:00:58.000 Hi, Alex.

01:00:59.000 Great to be here.

01:01:00.000 You bet.

01:01:00.000 You know, instead of sitting here and reading your bio, why don't you tell folks about yourself?

01:01:04.000 Sure.

01:01:05.000 Most people know about SoftSkull Press.

01:01:07.000 That was the upstart publishing company that picked up the controversial Bush biography, Fortunate Son.

01:01:13.000 Back before the dark days of the Bush administration in 99.

01:01:16.000 And that was my company and that was my move.

01:01:19.000 So I'm the guy that started SoftSkull and put SoftSkull on there.

01:01:22.000 You know, the evidence shows, I haven't asked you this, I don't know your opinion, but I really think they killed him.

01:01:27.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:01:30.000 When you're dealing with black magic, they get you to kill yourself.

01:01:33.000 That's what a wise old lady once told me.

01:01:35.000 A lot of people think that, yeah, when you're probably referring to the author, Jim Hatfield.

01:01:40.000 Yes.

01:01:40.000 Showed up dead in July of 2001.

01:01:43.000 In an Arkansas bathtub.

01:01:45.000 Yeah, well, yeah, in an Arkansas hotel room, right, about 30 miles away from his hometown of Bentonville, Arkansas.

01:01:51.000 And I've investigated that death.

01:01:54.000 I'm not certain that it was an open and shut case of, you know, forced suicide.

01:02:01.000 It's a little bit more subtle than that.

01:02:02.000 He did leave a four-page suicide note.

01:02:03.000 Well, they did, yeah.

01:02:04.000 They put it under your head. 1.00

01:02:05.000 We're going to kill your mommy if you don't do it. 1.00

01:02:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:02:08.000 He's outside your mommy's house right now.

01:02:11.000 Your mommy's making soup.

01:02:13.000 Right.

01:02:13.000 She's got a bag for it.

01:02:15.000 I mean, you know, the District Attorney, Robert Morgenthau, here in New York, did say that there were 16 people that died mysterious deaths investigating the BCCI scandal.

01:02:25.000 And Hatfield did have some interesting stuff way back in 99 about the Bush-Bin Laden connection in his book and the Bush-BCCI connection in his book.

01:02:33.000 So he was one of the first to really make me... That's how they get you to do it, and then they shoot you once in the head, and this is another person, and then the bullet deflects, so they've got to shoot you again, and they have one of your friends come out and say it was suicide.

01:02:47.000 Right, kind of like Gary Webb, using himself twice in the head.

01:02:50.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 Oh, that's quite normal!

01:02:53.000 Shooting yourself twice, it never happens.

01:02:55.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:57.000 Well anyway, Jim Hatfield does live on in researchers like me and you, and he also lives on sometimes in the form of a movie that's on Cinemax called Horns and Halos.

01:03:10.000 It's also on DVD now.

01:03:12.000 Jim Hatfield's no longer with us, but the work he did exposing the Bush-Bin Laden connection... Well, I mean, you know, Princess Diana said, they're going to kill me in a fake auto accident Charles told me.

01:03:22.000 Right.

01:03:22.000 And then they go, oh, suicide!

01:03:24.000 And then, you know, the head, you know, weapons inspector, Dr. David Kelly, says they're going to kill me and put me in the woods.

01:03:32.000 Yeah, he was discovered in the woods, right.

01:03:34.000 But don't worry, there is a note.

01:03:36.000 Uh, you know, we'll be right back. 1.00

01:03:38.000 You write that note or we're gonna kill your whole family. 0.99

01:03:41.000 Your daughter's at school today wearing that little blue dress. 0.99

01:03:44.000 Wonder how she's gonna like it when we work her over for a week and a half. 1.00

01:03:48.000 Now you write the letter and then we're gonna get this over with!

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01:07:01.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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01:07:22.000 Network The GCN Radio Network I can hear someone knocking on the door.

01:07:47.000 There are voices in the street, and the sound of running feet.

01:07:52.000 And they whisper the word, Revelation.

01:07:57.000 There are men... Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

01:08:00.000 We're now at nine minutes, seven seconds into this second, second, second hour.

01:08:05.000 The website is www.rinfowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com and I'm joined by a very interesting gentleman who of course published the Fortunate Son book and been involved of course with founding the Soft Skull Press.

01:08:21.000 He now has really been doing a lot of work exposing 9-11.

01:08:28.000 And talking about Operation Able Danger, just one of many examples of the government blocking investigations of Al-Shiaida and their CIA agents who were taking part in the drills.

01:08:39.000 There, I've said it.

01:08:40.000 But he joins us now, and I really appreciate him coming on the broadcast with us.

01:08:47.000 And his website is sanderhicks.com.

01:08:52.000 And I think we've got a big, fat link to it on InfoWars.com.

01:08:57.000 Again, Sander, please continue telling us how you woke up to this whole global system and these crime syndicates, and then let's get into 9-11 and some of the things you've been researching.

01:09:07.000 Sure, sure.

01:09:07.000 Well, one of the things I asked Jim Hatfield when I was his publisher is what were his sources of this Bush-Bin Laden connection, because I thought it would be You know, something that the mainstream media would surely be interested in finding out more about in my naivete.

01:09:23.000 And he said, well, I got some great sources.

01:09:25.000 And he talked about this book about BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

01:09:31.000 And from that, I started, in the wake of his death, kind of picked up that torch and ran with it.

01:09:36.000 So my book about 9-11, The Big Wedding, also has a big chapter about the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

01:09:43.000 And when 9-11 happened, I was in a position to be skeptical because Jim Hatfield had taken his life or had been suicided a month and a half previous.

01:09:52.000 So I was in the middle of the beginnings of a leave of absence from the New York City downtown publishing company I had started.

01:09:58.000 I had some free time on my hands and I started looking into 9-11.

01:10:05.000 And again, always rely on good sources.

01:10:08.000 This book, The Big Wedding, is not based on my own personal political opinions or speculations.

01:10:15.000 There's a paper trail out there for researchers that know how to find it.

01:10:20.000 You mentioned Abel Danger, Alex, and I'd love to pick up on that.

01:10:26.000 Able Danger, for most of your listeners probably know, is this team inside the Pentagon that now says that they were tracking Mohammed Atta as early as 1999 and 2000.

01:10:36.000 And now, you know, some of these Pentagon team members have been forced to recant and say, no, that's not what I said.

01:10:43.000 But for a while there, they were contradicting what the 9-11 Commission itself was saying.

01:10:48.000 That the 9-11 Commission was saying, well, no, Able Danger team never told us about Muhammad Atta being tracked and Able Danger was saying, oh no, we did tell them.

01:11:02.000 But really, if you really want the real story, there's some really interesting sources in my book, Big Wedding.

01:11:08.000 I've got this guy, Mian Farouk, who's been incarcerated for the past couple of years up in Clinton Correctional Facility in Dannemora Prison.

01:11:16.000 With a Patriot and FBI whistleblower, Richard Tauss, who got railroaded to prison in 1990.

01:11:25.000 And Farouk and Tauss both say that the Defense Department slash CIA knew about Mohammed Atta as early as 1996, because Mian Farouk was working for Pakistani Intelligence and CIA, and knew Mohammed Atta personally.

01:11:42.000 In fact, Mohammed Atta showed up in an airline pilot's uniform At JFK Airport, where Farouk was working, inside of a U.S.

01:11:51.000 Customs office, and, get this, Mohammad Aftab said, I'm wearing a U.S.

01:11:58.000 pilot's uniform because I now have an ownership interest in a certain Venice flight school.

01:12:05.000 So, if you can't get away with telling the truth in this country and saying stuff about, you know, The Pentagon was tracking Mohammed Atta in 1999, and it seems increasingly unlikely that the mainstream media will give serious consideration to my book, because my book says that the CIA and the military knew about Atta in 1996.

01:12:28.000 That's like, I know about my right hand.

01:12:31.000 I know about my eyeballs.

01:12:33.000 I know the eyes that are in my skull.

01:12:35.000 I mean, I know my two front eye teeth.

01:12:38.000 Look, I mean, there are countless examples.

01:12:40.000 Bush signed W199I.

01:12:42.000 Clinton originally signed it, ordering the FBI to stop these Al-Qaeda groups.

01:12:47.000 here in the United States.

01:12:48.000 The Bushes flew 161 of the Bin Ladens out to safety. 1.00

01:12:52.000 In the two days after 9-11 and all other commercial air traffic, all traffic was grounded except for governmental and emergency.

01:12:57.000 So we have that.

01:12:59.000 We have FBI agents being told, you'll be arrested if you tell the public what you know.

01:13:04.000 And I've had the head of the U.S.

01:13:08.000 Embassy out of Riyadh on who, years before, they're going, these are known terrorists coming in.

01:13:14.000 And they go, no, they're actually government agents.

01:13:16.000 It's part of an anti-terror drill.

01:13:18.000 That's their cover.

01:13:20.000 Let them back in.

01:13:21.000 And we're talking about ATTA and a whole bunch of the other supposed hijackers.

01:13:24.000 We're wallowing in this, and the guys are running around at topless bars. 0.99

01:13:30.000 I'm going to kill everybody tomorrow. 1.00

01:13:32.000 Here's the Koran. 0.99

01:13:33.000 Let me leave notes of how I'm going to do it all.

01:13:36.000 They're probably basking in the Maui sun right now.

01:13:41.000 If you look at the picture as an investigator, their official story is impossible.

01:13:45.000 You have to be a coincidence theorist not to really see what it is.

01:13:49.000 And I think all the stuff you've dug up, and others have dug up, just adds more layers, you know, to this.

01:13:53.000 More heapings of evidence here, uh, uh, Sander.

01:13:58.000 I mean, bottom line, they created, they funded, they protected Al Qaeda. 0.92

01:14:02.000 Then the debate is, did they engineer and run the whole attacks, or did they just let it happen?

01:14:06.000 Yeah.

01:14:07.000 And I think the answer to that debate is probably It's not either or, it's probably both and.

01:14:12.000 You know, I think Arab rage against American imperialism and the influence of AIPAC, I think those things are real. 0.98

01:14:20.000 Well, it's like in the fifties, the CIA, and this is publicly in a history channel, went and radicalized all the Arabs to create radical groups.

01:14:27.000 They didn't want secular governments that would actually develop and industrialize. 0.63

01:14:32.000 They wanted a bunch of wild-eyed crazies. 1.00

01:14:34.000 Right.

01:14:34.000 I think one thing that most people don't know is that the CIA's very first big hit, very first big assassination/political coup was in Iran in 1953.

01:14:46.000 You know, Harry Truman was not willing to let the CIA murder and overthrow governments, but President Eisenhower, when he was the president-elect, gave the green light for the CIA to do this.

01:14:59.000 And Kermit Roosevelt, in the region, engineered a coup against Mosaddegh.

01:15:04.000 Well, he carried out terror attacks and blamed them on Mosaddegh.

01:15:07.000 Exactly.

01:15:07.000 All because Mosaddegh had the temerity to say that the Iranian people deserve to enjoy the oil wealth that the British and American companies are going to the country.

01:15:16.000 The only one in 30%?

01:15:17.000 The only one in 30%?

01:15:18.000 Something like 5%.

01:15:18.000 Right.

01:15:19.000 Exactly.

01:15:20.000 Some of it.

01:15:20.000 Right.

01:15:22.000 And so, Mozebeck, who was a democratically elected leader, was overthrown by the CIA.

01:15:26.000 By the way, he'd been Time Magazine Man of the Year 1 in 51 for kicking the communist out, but then when they overthrew him, they called him a communist.

01:15:36.000 Right, exactly, exactly.

01:15:40.000 Yeah, and then we installed the Shah, who was this king of Iran, and that's why the Shah was overthrown, and that's why hostages were taken.

01:15:47.000 It's not like the hostages were taken in the late 70s under Carter because of, you know, an anti-American vitriol or venom.

01:15:55.000 It was a CIA base!

01:15:58.000 The CIA is notorious for running their operations out of U.S.

01:16:03.000 embassies without proper cover.

01:16:04.000 Well, they got the documents.

01:16:06.000 And look, folks, I'm no fan of the Ayatollah Khomeini.

01:16:08.000 The point is, don't you just want the truth? 0.98

01:16:11.000 Instead of this, you know, let's go buy targets of the Ayatollah and hang them up and shoot targets of him. 0.98

01:16:16.000 This is why they hate us so much. 0.97

01:16:18.000 They had a good, nice guy there, we took him out, he was pro-America, and then they caused the Shah, put him in, and then caused the Ayatollah to come in. 0.86

01:16:26.000 Right.

01:16:27.000 Right.

01:16:28.000 And with Mosaddegh, that set the pattern.

01:16:29.000 So the next year they did it again in Guatemala with Arbenz, just because Arbenz was trying to do a coalition government with a few leftists in his government.

01:16:38.000 We said that's not good enough, and the CIA pulled off a very similar coup.

01:16:44.000 In Guatemala, in 54.

01:16:46.000 Well, that's United Fruit!

01:16:47.000 Just because he said, you know, I'm not going to let you take the villagers' property to grow bananas.

01:16:51.000 They said, fine, we'll just overthrow you. 0.99

01:16:53.000 Right.

01:16:54.000 Right.

01:16:55.000 And with the same people, too.

01:16:56.000 Kermit Roosevelt, who was in the Iranian operation in 53, was also involved in the Arbenz.

01:17:01.000 Well, listen, it's not like that's our opinion.

01:17:03.000 He bombed mosques and machine-gunned people and hired 2,000 thugs to do it. 0.98

01:17:07.000 The piece of trash went on NPR in the 1980s and did an interview bragging about it. 0.99

01:17:12.000 Oh yeah? 0.99

01:17:13.000 Oh yeah.

01:17:14.000 I mean, I knew about it, but I sat there one night in a Home Depot parking lot for 30 minutes listening to that.

01:17:21.000 They were re-airing this interview, and he was real proud of himself.

01:17:25.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:17:26.000 We're publishing this guy later in the fall named Brad Ayers, who was a paramilitary specialist who was recruited into the secret war against Cuba that was being launched by a Ted Shackley CIA run station in Miami in 62.

01:17:43.000 And one of the things, one of the people that Brad Ayers met was this guy David Morales, who was involved in the Arbenz overthrow for CIA in 1954, but also was involved in the assassination of JFK, and was also involved, was present

01:18:00.000 At the assassination of RFK, because some of the more cutting-edge research into the death of the Kennedys shows that JFK was actually, I'm sorry, RFK was actually very interested in trying to get to the bottom of who exactly had killed his brother.

01:18:14.000 Of course!

01:18:15.000 Yeah, and that's probably why they had to take him out in 68 in LA in the Ambassador Hotel.

01:18:21.000 And what Brad has done, and what Brad's going to be doing in his book, The Zenith Secret, that we're publishing in a couple of months, He was shown photographs of who was there at the Ambassador Hotel in 1968 and he identified, from memory, Gordon Campbell and David Morales, two CIA agents.

01:18:38.000 So the problem we have in this country is that people love their country, and yet not enough people realize.

01:18:43.000 Well, they think loving their country is worshiping private mercs who are bringing the country down.

01:18:48.000 We'll be right back.

01:18:49.000 Stay with us, Sander.

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01:23:05.000 And coming up, we're going to be taking your calls a little bit later.

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01:23:30.000 When we open the phones up, you're welcome to talk about anything you wish.

01:23:34.000 Sander, you've written a lot of articles, not just published books, and we'll give out those websites again a little bit later, but I'm sure you've been following the news where they catch British SAS dressed up like Arabs, shooting people, shooting police, posing as Arab fighters, posing as Iranians basically, and then running around with plastic explosives in their car, clearly about the stage of car bombing.

01:23:55.000 That fits in with Israelis and U.S.

01:23:57.000 troops being caught doing the same thing, and people go, why would our own troops kill our own people?

01:24:02.000 Right.

01:24:03.000 His strategy of tension, would you like to speak to that?

01:24:05.000 Yeah, sure.

01:24:06.000 That strategy of tension comes out of certain research people have done into 1978 in Italy.

01:24:13.000 This guy Webster Tarpley, and I don't... I'm friendly with Tarpley, although I don't completely have, you know, 100% parity with everything he believes politically.

01:24:23.000 Well, Gladio's public.

01:24:25.000 Yeah, right.

01:24:26.000 But I've been reading Webster Tarpley's new book on 9-11, and he talked about Gladio, which was a secret team organized probably by NATO intelligence and they took on the veneer of a radical left group of the Red Brigade and assassinated the Italian President Aldo Mori and blamed it on the Red Brigade and morally also on the school buses their favorite thing is to kill small children.

01:24:52.000 Right, yeah.

01:24:54.000 And it just goes to show how How scared they are?

01:24:59.000 It's simple.

01:24:59.000 You go blow up school buses and blame it on leftists.

01:25:01.000 Right.

01:25:02.000 Right.

01:25:03.000 And it's very similar to the way that they've blamed 9-11 on Islamic terrorists.

01:25:09.000 You know, this way of demonizing people from the right.

01:25:13.000 You know, so-called fanatics.

01:25:17.000 So, you know, this is really great though, being on your show, Alex, because before we take hollers, I'd like to point out that it's really important, I think, to create common ground between people on the left, like myself, and people that are more, I don't know what you call yourself, independent.

01:25:30.000 Well, you know, I don't even believe in left and right.

01:25:32.000 It wasn't taught until a hundred years ago.

01:25:34.000 I believe in freedom versus slavery.

01:25:36.000 I believe the left-right paradigm is a false projection.

01:25:39.000 That's right.

01:25:39.000 I remember hearing that on your website.

01:25:45.000 I think there's something to that, too.

01:25:47.000 It goes back to the French Revolution.

01:25:48.000 It goes back to Hegel.

01:25:50.000 You've got to communicate with people with the Signpost and symbols they know.

01:25:57.000 Left and right is the dominant system, but I'm trying to overturn that and go back to the true organic freedom versus slavery paradigm.

01:26:04.000 Right.

01:26:05.000 And I think we go forward together when we realize that both the Democrats and the Republicans have the same players on their team.

01:26:13.000 And I didn't go looking for it, but a couple of times over the course of my book, I kept on running into the story of Vince Foster, and it was almost like Rediscovering the Corpse of Vince Foster, Deputy White House Counsel under Clinton, who was found dead under mysterious circumstances in a park in Arlington, Virginia in 1993.

01:26:31.000 And one of the things, one of the stories that I'm really breaking, that I think is something that no one else has touched, is the connections that Michael Chertoff, current Director of Homeland Security, has to the finance peers of Islamic Terror. 0.92

01:26:44.000 I don't know if you were able to get to that chapter in my book.

01:26:46.000 It's like Chapter 9, or Chapter 10, I believe.

01:26:50.000 And, uh, it's a really interesting story.

01:26:52.000 I was able to do it for San Marcos University Star, originally, the local college near you published it, originally.

01:27:00.000 And then I put it into book form and really fleshed it out.

01:27:02.000 But not only did Michael Chertoff, as a private attorney, defend Dr. Magdy Alomir, who was accused by, not by Kooks, but by the state of New Jersey, of having five million dollars missing when his HMO was raided, and having connections to Not only Osama Bin Laden, but the Egyptian arms dealer, Diya Moyshen.

01:27:22.000 So there's some really creepy stuff here, and you have to ask yourself, you know, why was this guy connected to Dr. Matt Gallagher?

01:27:28.000 You know, who asked him to defend this guy?

01:27:31.000 And not only that, but once I started digging, I realized that Michael Chertoff was actually also involved in the Vince Foster cover-up.

01:27:37.000 Of course he was!

01:27:38.000 I don't know if you know about this, I guess.

01:27:40.000 Yeah, he's also involved in all sorts of SNL scamming.

01:27:42.000 Yeah.

01:27:43.000 That's why they like him in real estate scams.

01:27:46.000 Right, right.

01:27:48.000 So, a little bit more about Vince Foster, because I have a feeling your listeners probably care a lot about that, because I know you probably care a lot about that.

01:27:57.000 One of my sources in this book is Ambassador Leo Wanta, who actually knew Foster and worked in the White House with him.

01:28:04.000 Wanta goes all the way back to the Reagan White House, where he was Ronald Reagan's junkyard dog.

01:28:10.000 Foster and Wanta were traveling together in Switzerland right before Foster showed up dead and Wanta was put into chains.

01:28:20.000 You know, I tell you what, we've got a break.

01:28:21.000 I've got a little three or four minute announcement I've got to make when we get back.

01:28:24.000 Some key information.

01:28:25.000 And we'll get right back to you where you left off.

01:28:27.000 Okay, Sander?

01:28:27.000 Okay, great, Ops.

01:28:28.000 This is really important and I want to... You've got plenty of time to go over all this.

01:28:32.000 We'll keep you in the next hour if we need to.

01:28:33.000 And we'll also take calls.

01:28:36.000 Folks, stay with us. 0.87

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01:32:01.000 All right, I want to be judicious about this and focused.

01:32:16.000 I have a rule on my radio show that I do not engage in infighting and attacking and egomania with other patriots and truth seekers because I've seen it tear this movement apart and damage it.

01:32:31.000 and a lot of it's COINTELPRO, A lot of it is done on purpose, right out of the FBI handbook, to instead of fighting the New World Order, instead of fighting the hate crimes laws, or the open borders, or the gun control, we're busy fighting with each other.

01:32:44.000 But most of it is just egomaniacs who really just want money and power, And their main drive is not defeating the New World Order. 0.86

01:32:54.000 They're just cynical, greedy, egomaniacs. 0.94

01:32:58.000 And they sit there from their little self-appointed thrones, just year after year, throwing rocks at people. 0.99

01:33:05.000 And relishing it.

01:33:07.000 And it's so disgusting to me that I always stay out of it and stay away from it.

01:33:11.000 I mean, I'm really worried about this country, folks.

01:33:13.000 I'm worried about survival.

01:33:15.000 I'm worried about getting picked up by the New World Order and getting tortured to death.

01:33:18.000 I'm thinking about real issues.

01:33:21.000 To live here in Austin, and to have started my fight almost 12 years ago when no one even knew what the New World Order was around here, and to have worked so hard to stand up to the globalists, and to have so many great inroads that have been made, I'm not going to allow it to be hijacked by carpetbaggers 0.80

01:33:40.000 I mean, anybody that wants to come to now the Capitol, which they say Austin is the capital of fighting the New World Order, now worldwide, I mean, you know, national television has said that, to have them then come to the Capitol and then try to set themselves up as kings and then lie and attack and besmirch the records of good people.

01:34:01.000 It isn't even that it's damaging to myself.

01:34:04.000 Most people see through it.

01:34:05.000 But still it gives them a bad taste.

01:34:07.000 It's like somebody passing gas on an elevator.

01:34:10.000 And like the 50th time they do it, it's like you need to stop.

01:34:13.000 You're hurting yourself more than you're hurting even the movement or somebody like myself.

01:34:18.000 And everybody knows what the high road is.

01:34:22.000 So, you know, at this time I'm not going to give any names, and number one, I don't want to hear that, oh, you guys need to not fight with each other.

01:34:31.000 If I'm walking down the street and I've done nothing to you, and you walk over to me and hit me in the head with a ball-peen hammer, the cops aren't going to show up, you know, when witnesses saw it, and say that I somehow was in a fight with you.

01:34:41.000 No.

01:34:42.000 You assaulted me.

01:34:44.000 You understand?

01:34:46.000 This is exactly what we're talking about. 0.99

01:34:48.000 It's like a woman, well, you shouldn't have been wearing that short skirt, you know, when they raped you. 1.00

01:34:53.000 And the reason I'm talking about this is I know friends of mine, people I know, people that are good people, people that I know personally over many years, and I hear just the most outlandish lies coming out of the mouth of the power-mad carpetbagger just north of us here, north of Austin. 1.00

01:35:17.000 And, you know, I'm a team player.

01:35:19.000 I have people on from, you know, that other entity.

01:35:22.000 I promote the good people.

01:35:25.000 You know, whether it's Robbie Noel or whether it was somebody like, you know, Jack McClam.

01:35:29.000 I don't care, folks.

01:35:30.000 It's about fighting the New World Order. 0.75

01:35:33.000 And then I have to hear out of this individual just stuff that I know personally it's done cynically in a business strategy just for ego and personal gain.

01:35:46.000 It's that simple!

01:35:48.000 And...

01:35:51.000 You know what?

01:35:52.000 I hope people attack me more, because I'm just going to let it all out, folks.

01:35:54.000 I'm going to let you know everything.

01:35:55.000 Big articles, everything.

01:35:56.000 I mean, I really struggle with this.

01:35:58.000 You know, is it right to shut up?

01:36:00.000 Is it right to bite your tongue?

01:36:02.000 Is it right to know something is so true and needs to be exposed?

01:36:06.000 And, you know, I try to weigh things.

01:36:07.000 I need to stay focused on Bush, on Clinton, on the New World Order.

01:36:11.000 They're moving ahead with the global taxes.

01:36:13.000 The CFR today is calling for global government.

01:36:15.000 Big BBC News article.

01:36:17.000 I mean, we need to talk about that.

01:36:19.000 But because there is this fire in our camp, you know, that's in danger of consuming things because of egomania.

01:36:30.000 And because I guess people have taken it so long, for years now, over a year now, that we were expected to just put up with this.

01:36:38.000 I mean, think of the stuff you've heard.

01:36:40.000 It's just out of the blue stuff like, Genesis isn't going to exist anymore.

01:36:44.000 Never had any basis in reality, any basis in fact, the network's doing better than it's ever done.

01:36:50.000 So, I mean, those false accusations only made us stronger.

01:36:52.000 But still, it's just, how do you say that?

01:36:54.000 And then how do people not remember you said that?

01:36:56.000 And all the other stuff.

01:36:58.000 All the other promises you were made.

01:37:00.000 All the things you were told.

01:37:01.000 As we just sit here and take it.

01:37:03.000 And take it.

01:37:07.000 From people who, it's not just that.

01:37:09.000 The other day when I knew I had to say something.

01:37:11.000 It's the things we are accused of is exactly what they're doing.

01:37:16.000 And then to know there's all these good people involved with it who are just being drug along by it.

01:37:22.000 You know, I mean, you've got something that's really good, but the head of it is rotten.

01:37:27.000 And then the thing about when somebody's in trouble, I reach my hand out to them, I try to help them.

01:37:31.000 I mean, really it's embarrassing to sit here in this town where I've woken, with your help, so many hundreds of thousands of people up, and to watch somebody spitting on me, Defecating on me, basically, and then smearing it on me, and then telling people how good they are.

01:37:48.000 And weird stuff about how they started the micros down here, and when they've been here seven, eight years, you know, Keith Perry did, and weird stuff about, just every day, and then also twisted stuff implying that I'm with them, and implying that, you know, somehow we are that, so they get support that's meant to go here.

01:38:05.000 Look!

01:38:06.000 No more Mr. Nice Guy!

01:38:08.000 You understand?

01:38:08.000 You understand that?

01:38:10.000 I mean, I hear these type of vomitous lies.

01:38:14.000 You think you're going to get away with it forever?

01:38:16.000 You're not.

01:38:17.000 So I tell people, do not support it.

01:38:20.000 Do not give it any support.

01:38:22.000 Because until it is rectified, I mean, if I told you the trail of destruction, the trail of division, the trail, it's just unbelievable.

01:38:32.000 And so, you know, this is the GCN radio network exploding, the world leader reaching people because we talk about real issues of real significance.

01:38:43.000 That's why we get attacked by the Washington Post and the New York Times and the ADL and they don't.

01:38:48.000 That's why we get attacked by every TV station in Texas two weeks ago.

01:38:52.000 That's why, because we're actually getting it done.

01:38:54.000 We're getting the flack, we're under attack, and when you hear us being under attack by people who we've never defended ourselves against, You gotta, you gotta look at that.

01:39:05.000 So there isn't any, oh, fix it, be friends, oh, you guys don't fight.

01:39:08.000 No.

01:39:09.000 If I walk up to you and knock your teeth out, you didn't do anything to me. 0.99

01:39:13.000 I assaulted you. 0.78

01:39:14.000 Do you understand that?

01:39:15.000 Let's get that straight.

01:39:16.000 Number one, we just sit here and take it and take it and take it, and it's really become an abomination.

01:39:22.000 It's really become like, uh, you know, just somebody who, it's crazy.

01:39:28.000 And, uh, you know, I'm tired of hearing it.

01:39:31.000 Just because it's a wrong.

01:39:34.000 And kid, it hurts that individual.

01:39:36.000 It hurts the movement.

01:39:38.000 It hurts us all.

01:39:38.000 And then, you know, this little demonic sidekick.

01:39:42.000 You know, this creature of old I've never responded to.

01:39:45.000 And just all of it.

01:39:48.000 I mean, it is amazing.

01:39:51.000 It is absolutely amazing.

01:39:54.000 Well, several sidekicks, actually.

01:39:57.000 Now, again, I am not going to talk about that on the show.

01:39:59.000 Anybody that calls in about it, I'm not discussing it.

01:40:01.000 I'm not giving any more attention to it.

01:40:03.000 Unless I need to, and it will probably be a big Internet expose.

01:40:07.000 If I have to.

01:40:09.000 I've just really been weighing it and seeking out God and what I should do.

01:40:13.000 I think I needed to do this, but I'm meeting this out in measure.

01:40:18.000 And you know I don't do this, but you need to know.

01:40:22.000 You need to know.

01:40:24.000 You have a right to know.

01:40:26.000 It has become a cancer.

01:40:32.000 It's got to be dealt with.

01:40:34.000 It's too bad to have to say this, but it's got to be done.

01:40:37.000 Alright, I've spent the last seven minutes on that, and I'm not going to apologize for doing it.

01:40:43.000 I had to do it.

01:40:46.000 There's a ton of news coming up, and we have our guest, Sander Hicks.

01:40:51.000 Sander, do you want to talk about COINTELPRO?

01:40:54.000 Yeah, I think it's important to realize that you don't want to spend too much energy fighting decoys or fighting red herrings. 0.97

01:41:01.000 That's something I talk about in my book is that I know that there's a lot of people that are beginning to wake up to the 9-11 myth.

01:41:08.000 But they get turned off by the overactive, you know, watch.

01:41:13.000 Yeah, yeah, and you know, any political movement, sectarianism is always, I think even without government interference or COINTELPRO and any... Yeah, it's just greed and arrogance and somebody on the power.

01:41:24.000 Yeah, everyone's got egos and everyone... We live in a culture, I think culturally, part of the problem of Western society is that the only value is how high on the totem pole you are.

01:41:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:35.000 People tend to get invalidated.

01:41:37.000 Like, from our infancy, we don't tend to listen to each other.

01:41:40.000 We don't think of listening to each other as a skill.

01:41:42.000 See, I've turned the cheek about 200 times, and then there's a time to fly, a time to cry, a time to die, a time to not turn the cheek, a time to... And, you know, it's just there's a certain point where it's gotten so obvious now that it's just trying to help people stop what they're doing.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, well, one of the red herrings, I believe, and this might shake up some people in the 9-11 truth movement, I believe that the no-plane-hit-the-Pentagon theory is probably a red herring.

01:42:09.000 There are many eyewitnesses that saw that flight hit the Pentagon.

01:42:19.000 Well, you know, talking about sectarianism, I don't know what happened there.

01:42:24.000 The whole thing's very suspicious with them grabbing the tapes and different witness stuff, but all I know is because I can't prove it either way, but I encourage those that do talk about it, and we should have an open, free-flow debate, but because I can't prove it either way, what I do is I focus on all the things I can prove.

01:42:40.000 Right, right.

01:42:41.000 And I think one of the things I'm trying to prove is that the theory is one of the more outlandish theories and I think it might be part of the design to keep the mainstream Americans away from the movement of questioning and the movement of alternative history or alternative theories to the mainstream myth of 9-11 as being pulled off by a small gang of Al-Qaeda terrorists.

01:43:09.000 Well, clearly that is just impossible.

01:43:12.000 I mean, it's like saying men in a cave landed a capsule on the moon.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, but it's the official story and a lot of people cling to it out of a desire for safety and security.

01:43:20.000 But here's an example.

01:43:20.000 They have that new Discovery Channel show about the hijackers, one that hit the towers, Flight 93 over Pennsylvania, and they use the same hijacking tape for both of the supposed hijackings.

01:43:32.000 I mean, it's that elementary, where they use the same tape for both planes.

01:43:36.000 I mean, it's just, it's just, I mean, everybody I talk to is going, yeah, I noticed that. 0.99

01:43:40.000 How dumb do they think we are? 0.99

01:43:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:43:42.000 Yeah, and I actually think, I'm sure you saw the Zogby poll last year that said half of New Yorkers in New York City believe that the 9-11 Commission report did not do its job.

01:43:53.000 Well, yeah, it's in my film, Martial Law.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, there needs to be a new investigation.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, so I think people are beginning to wake up.

01:44:02.000 I talk about this in my book, though, the possibilities that there's a red herring.

01:44:07.000 In the same way that JFK... You know, 90%, let me just interrupt, you know, 90% in a CNN poll said they thought that, so... Oh yeah, that's great.

01:44:14.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:44:14.000 I'm sure that poll disappeared right after the results were published.

01:44:17.000 It was, go ahead.

01:44:18.000 Yeah, well, one of the things I talk about in the book is I go back and I talk to some JFK researchers and I said, in the truth movement around the JFK assassination, Were there red herrings, i.e.

01:44:29.000 were there things that were maybe planted to perhaps deliberately throw off researchers?

01:44:35.000 Well, intelligence agencies always have three or four ops going at the same time to create the fog and create plausible deniability in multiple layers.

01:44:43.000 Right, right.

01:44:44.000 Like, for instance, there was Lee Harvey Oswald dupes or duplicates and doppelgangers, people that looked like Lee Harvey Oswald that were Also around the area.

01:44:57.000 I mentioned Zenith Secret, Brad Ayer's book, the former CIA paramilitary specialist, and he witnessed one of those Lee Harvey Oswald look-alikes being pushed out of a helicopter, right in front of him.

01:45:09.000 It was a terrifying, terrifying thing to experience.

01:45:13.000 Oh, where was this?

01:45:15.000 That was at Fort Eglin in Florida, right after the JFK hit.

01:45:21.000 And it hasn't been published yet, but it's going to be coming out in a book I'm doing here at Vox Pop called, Zenith Secret.

01:45:28.000 Very, very exciting stuff.

01:45:29.000 Well, I want to get him on for that.

01:45:30.000 Yeah, okay, great.

01:45:31.000 I will make a note of it.

01:45:32.000 I'll get him there for you.

01:45:33.000 Well, I mean, look.

01:45:35.000 Five years ago, 80 plus percent thought the government killed Kennedy.

01:45:38.000 Now they have polls where 92 percent, you know, we're talking that type of level.

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:43.000 I mean, so 8 percent can call us all kooks.

01:45:46.000 Everybody knows.

01:45:46.000 Anybody's never shot a Thirty-odd, six-bolt action.

01:45:50.000 I mean, you know you don't get off that many rounds.

01:45:54.000 I mean, you can't do it.

01:45:54.000 You can't hit the side of a barn if you did.

01:45:56.000 Right.

01:45:56.000 And even the U.S.

01:45:57.000 Congress in 1978 said the same thing.

01:45:59.000 Well, bullets don't change directions and hit metal and hit three bones.

01:46:02.000 Right.

01:46:02.000 I mean, they fragment.

01:46:04.000 Right.

01:46:05.000 I mean, I keep telling you how many times I've shot, you know, a deer and seen the bullet go through and go find the spot where it hit the dirt and dug in a foot and dug out the bullet out of the dirt.

01:46:12.000 Right.

01:46:13.000 Right.

01:46:13.000 So we've got a lot of evidence on our case.

01:46:15.000 But you know what, Alex?

01:46:16.000 It's not just evidence that's really going to make that argument.

01:46:18.000 Politically, you've got to realize the importance of It's almost like we need an emotional revolution in this country.

01:46:24.000 Getting over that our government's been hijacked by criminals, and just realizing that they're not our mommy and our daddy.

01:46:33.000 Let me try to finish this thought.

01:46:35.000 What I'm trying to say is that the facts are already on our side, but it's not just facts that we need.

01:46:41.000 We need actually, this goes back to what I was trying to say about sectarianism and validation.

01:46:47.000 Part of the movement against all the untruth and corruption has to be an understanding that we have to grow as people.

01:46:56.000 I hope this doesn't sound too hippy-dippy or woo-woo or anything, but it's something that occurred to me from experience in New Mexico.

01:47:04.000 There's a doctor there named Dr. Dave Stewart, and he's got a group, and he talks about That from birth, in this country, we invalidate our tendency in listening to each other, or arguing with our loved ones, is always to invalidate whatever is being said.

01:47:20.000 Well, it's a pecking order that we see with, say, cockatoos.

01:47:24.000 It's mindless bird-brain behavior.

01:47:27.000 Families, people take it as an insult if you try to warn them of some corruption, as if you're trying to invalidate and act like you're smart.

01:47:35.000 And you're like, no, I'm trying to warn you, your house is on fire!

01:47:38.000 And they're like, you just want to tell me what to do.

01:47:41.000 No, no, I agree.

01:47:42.000 I've seen this.

01:47:43.000 It's so destructive.

01:47:45.000 You know, I've got distant family who are all a bunch of invalidators, whereas my parents were always validating me.

01:47:50.000 Oh yeah?

01:47:51.000 Yeah, I do see that a lot, where everybody picks at each other.

01:47:55.000 And no, exactly, you're making a great point.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, good, good. 0.94

01:47:58.000 And so we all feel pathetic and like we're not leaders when we are. 0.96

01:48:02.000 Right. 0.99

01:48:03.000 Right.

01:48:03.000 Well, that's my message, brother!

01:48:04.000 Yeah, good, good.

01:48:05.000 And I think, like, yeah, I think the Quakers had it right, too, in the sense that the inner light of truth is within all of us, and yet we've got to stop smothering it in everyone.

01:48:14.000 Well, I'd say this to the New Age Quakers. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Of course, we had great Quaker generals, like General Green in the Revolutionary War, that, I mean, God can give us that light if we let God into our lives.

01:48:26.000 The human is a pretty fallen creature, I think, without God.

01:48:29.000 Yeah.

01:48:30.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:48:31.000 Gandhi said that truth is the same thing as God, and God is truth.

01:48:35.000 Well, I know one thing that Gandhi did say I agree with.

01:48:38.000 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

01:48:42.000 Right.

01:48:43.000 Was that Gandhi?

01:48:45.000 Yes.

01:48:45.000 Oh, great.

01:48:46.000 I read that online.

01:48:47.000 You never know.

01:48:49.000 Why?

01:48:50.000 Is that somebody else you know?

01:48:51.000 I thought maybe it was, but I might be wrong.

01:48:54.000 Hey, all I know is it's Veritas, baby.

01:48:57.000 Whoever said it, what's the other paraphrased quote that if you try to shut up the truth, you try to board it up, you try to bury it, when it does explode it'll just annihilate that that was trying to suppress it?

01:49:10.000 Right, you remember when Emma Goldman said, if I can't dance, you can have your revolution?

01:49:15.000 I've heard that paraphrased so many different times.

01:49:17.000 I tried to go look it up online and I got to the open source encyclopedia, Wikipedia, which actually said that she never actually said that and that it's sort of a paraphrase from a larger section of her memoirs, Living My Life.

01:49:31.000 And for those who don't know, I'm talking about Emma Goldman, the famous turn-of-the-century American anarchist.

01:49:37.000 Yeah, well, uh, I like Wikipedia, but they're not perfect.

01:49:40.000 They got stuff about me that I know is not true.

01:49:43.000 Right.

01:49:43.000 Well, it's open source.

01:49:44.000 Well, exactly.

01:49:45.000 No one is all-powerful.

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01:55:56.000 Let's go ahead and go to your calls.

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01:56:00.000 John and Tejas, you're on the air.

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01:56:03.000 Yeah, Alex.

01:56:04.000 Yes.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, I'm calling from Galveston County.

01:56:07.000 A couple of things I'd like to touch upon, including the very mysterious overthrow of the Shah of Iran.

01:56:13.000 But before I do, let me tell you that there's a talk show host that you've been a guest on his show.

01:56:18.000 He's a wonderful guy.

01:56:19.000 You've been a guest on his show many times, and he's an alright guy, but his greener is a ringer who keeps guys like me from talking to you, because when you appear on his program, this guy puts you on terminal hold and leaves you there.

01:56:34.000 And runs five or six calls over the wild card line, you know, over you and just leaves you there in oblivion.

01:56:40.000 So you might want to pass that on to George next time you're on his show.

01:56:44.000 Alright.

01:56:46.000 60 Minutes interviewed the Shah of Iran a few months before he was mysteriously overthrown.

01:56:53.000 And the 60 Minutes reporter mentioned to him, asked him, he said, well what about the Arab oil embargo?

01:56:59.000 And the Shah's answer was, what embargo?

01:57:03.000 Well, I got family in the oil business then, and I mean, it was all staged.

01:57:07.000 Everybody, stay there, stay there.

01:57:08.000 I want you to finish up, and I want to give Mr. Hicks a chance to respond to that, because he's written about it and researched it.

01:57:14.000 We'll be right back with the third hour, Real Issues of Real Significance.

01:57:18.000 This show is Real Talk Radio, and that's been the name of this show for eight years.

01:57:23.000 I even had t-shirts that said it.

01:57:25.000 That's another point.

01:57:26.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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01:58:53.000 You're welcome to call in about You know, any of these subjects that have come out, Roberts getting confirmed, the Republican whip getting in trouble, getting indicted, Tom DeLay, all of it!

01:59:07.000 Big CFR announcements, open calls for total world government, BBC reporting.

01:59:11.000 We're going to cover all that, but first we're going to get to some of these calls.

01:59:13.000 Listen, I've got to move to you quickly here.

01:59:16.000 Let's go ahead back to the caller in Texas who was holding patiently.

01:59:21.000 Go ahead and finish up your point, sir.

01:59:22.000 Yeah, Alex, so what happened when he said What embargo?

01:59:25.000 The reporter's jaw dropped to the floor.

01:59:28.000 He said, what do you mean?

01:59:29.000 And the Shah said, David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger came to me and said, you're going to double your oil prices.

01:59:36.000 I told him, why should I?

01:59:38.000 He said, I have a palace for every day of the week.

01:59:41.000 I have a Rolls Royce for every day of the week.

01:59:43.000 Why do I need to double my oil prices?

01:59:45.000 And then they told him, if you don't, you'll never buy any more F-16s or military hardware from the United States.

01:59:52.000 So, after the cat was out of the bag, all of a sudden, the CFR-controlled media went to a suburb of Paris, where the Ayatollah Khomeini was living, and he, of course, was never a part of the previous Mossadegh regime.

02:00:07.000 Well, they even made a deal with him to grab the people, to hold them, then to release them right when Reagan got elected.

02:00:14.000 Yeah, but they grabbed this guy who was a nobody.

02:00:17.000 You had never been involved in the Iranian government before, and all of a sudden they stuck a microphone in his face and said, oh, why, he's a holy man.

02:00:25.000 Yeah, that's why he started putting people in front of the firing squad.

02:00:29.000 But they created this monster simply because the Shah of Iran exposed the fact... No, I know, just like they did with Mosaddegh. 1.00

02:00:37.000 Yeah, that it was... No, listen, for those who don't know, we've done whole shows. 0.85

02:00:40.000 That was to train you to accept higher oil prices, just like you're being trained right now, like dogs.

02:00:45.000 Thanks for the call.

02:00:46.000 Let me get a comment from our guest, Sander Hicks.

02:00:49.000 Sander?

02:00:49.000 Yeah, it's new information to me, Alex.

02:00:51.000 I don't really have much to say in response, but maybe we'll take the next call.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, I wasn't aware of that interview particularly, but I was aware of some of those statements.

02:01:00.000 Kari in Texas.

02:01:01.000 Kari, go ahead.

02:01:04.000 Hi, how are you, Alex?

02:01:05.000 Fine, thank you.

02:01:06.000 Yes, I live in Dallas, Texas.

02:01:09.000 And I had an awakening probably about a few years ago, and I've been piecing so much together from the Illuminati on down.

02:01:15.000 There's how everything's involved, and I've been harassed, like you would not believe, bank accounts strained and everything else, but... Well, that's happened to a lot of people who aren't involved in fighting the New World Order.

02:01:25.000 Yeah, and I also, they faked my brother's accident in my car, and he shouldn't have made it through, and he actually pulled through, but there's no police report to find it.

02:01:35.000 He was.

02:01:36.000 He was terrified at Parkland Hospital.

02:01:38.000 They can't even give me any answers.

02:01:40.000 So you think the New World Order is after you to get you?

02:01:43.000 Well, I know that I have proof and come to find out I don't know much about my father's side of the family, but he's just resurfaced out of the blue and he's living in Saudi Arabia.

02:01:52.000 He was just in Vegas to meet with the Air Force.

02:01:57.000 How can I help you today?

02:01:58.000 Yeah, well I was standing on my balcony and we've been watching a lot of the things going on in the sky that have been weird and we're near the Addison Airport and we got up today and there was a Navy helicopter that was doing work over there and we called the newscast and everything else nobody seemed to know what was going on and we finally got an answer and they said that they were installing air conditioning vents For the rooftop of the Wal-Mart show.

02:02:27.000 I thought it was odd that a Navy helicopter would be doing that.

02:02:29.000 I didn't know if you knew anything that would be going on.

02:02:31.000 No, I didn't know about that.

02:02:33.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:34.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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02:05:59.000 Welcome back.

02:06:00.000 Got about 51 minutes left in this worldwide transmission.

02:06:02.000 We're going to have our guest, Sandra Hicks, with us in under 20 minutes or so. 0.96

02:06:06.000 Open phones.

02:06:07.000 We've been talking about a lot today.

02:06:09.000 I want to take a few calls and go back to something a break interrupted us from.

02:06:12.000 I'm talking about Homeland Security Director Lord Chertoff, Comrade Chertoff, some of his dirty background that our guest didn't have a chance to finish talking about.

02:06:21.000 I've got to get into this CFR openly saying they want one world government.

02:06:26.000 I mean they're like out on BBC announcing it right now.

02:06:30.000 And right now we're taking calls at 800 2-5-9-92-31.

02:06:33.000 Look, the history of the world is corrupt elites trying to repress populations.

02:06:40.000 But also, a lot of, a French philosopher wrote about the Panopticon, these first prisons they had, modern prisons a few hundred years ago, where there was a tower in the middle of the round prison, in the middle of the doughnut.

02:06:53.000 And it gave people the illusion that they were always being watched and they would self-enforce on themselves through paranoia.

02:06:59.000 They got hit teams, they got corruption, but they do it through mass programs and getting you to go along.

02:07:05.000 Even most of their enforcers aren't truly evil.

02:07:08.000 That's why they're using TV to change our morals that torture is good. 0.99

02:07:12.000 They don't say, ooh, we're evil, let's torture.

02:07:13.000 No, it's good to torture.

02:07:15.000 And we go, no, no, no, no, it's not.

02:07:17.000 They're trying to mass-warp us.

02:07:18.000 So, there are a lot of people who think if they have a car wreck or something bad happens to them, they're being harassed by the New World Order.

02:07:25.000 And in some rare cases, that is the case.

02:07:26.000 But in most, it's not.

02:07:29.000 It's just... Please, folks.

02:07:32.000 We're not here to make people think that there's boogeymen.

02:07:34.000 I mean, think about me.

02:07:35.000 I walk in my house late at night, 2 o'clock in the morning after working.

02:07:38.000 I'm not living in fear.

02:07:40.000 I get in my car, drive down the road.

02:07:41.000 I mean, we're all going to die.

02:07:43.000 And I refuse to, you know, live in fear.

02:07:46.000 I mean, I'm just not going to do it.

02:07:47.000 I never have and I never will.

02:07:49.000 That's not true.

02:07:50.000 When I was a little kid, I had lots of fears of monsters in the closet and stuff.

02:07:53.000 And you finally just grow up and dominate those fears and then you don't have fear anymore.

02:07:57.000 You have concern.

02:07:59.000 You know, fears of the classical type of your person.

02:08:02.000 My fear is not doing enough.

02:08:03.000 My fear is not defending the innocent. 0.98

02:08:05.000 My fear is not defeating these scumbags and the New World Order control freaks that have horrible things planned for us. 0.97

02:08:12.000 Sander, what are your fears? 0.99

02:08:16.000 Wow, that's very similar to your own.

02:08:19.000 You know, the fear of selling out, the fear of getting offered some sort of cushy payoff and that I'll take it.

02:08:27.000 You know, I pray every day.

02:08:28.000 and read the gospel every day and stay connected historically to the prophets and the Messiah.

02:08:36.000 Well, let me just say this.

02:08:37.000 Let me just throw this in.

02:08:38.000 Yeah.

02:08:39.000 You know, I, well, you know what, I'm busy interrupting you.

02:08:45.000 That's why I interrupt.

02:08:45.000 I forget a thought.

02:08:46.000 Then I forget the thought by the time you go, okay, go ahead.

02:08:48.000 I forget it.

02:08:49.000 Go ahead.

02:08:49.000 Okay.

02:08:50.000 Well, you know, I think you've got to stay connected to your core, your mission in life, and that will protect you from, you know, the possible co-optation.

02:09:05.000 Also, having published now The Big Wedding, my book on 9-11, it's the product of 40 years of research, and it's finally out.

02:09:12.000 I've got to say that some of the paranoia did hit me, and I did think, like, gosh, what if some people don't like it and want to come after me from the ruling class, the power structures, or from Muslim Brotherhood, or the neocons.

02:09:32.000 Wise old woman in New York City who gives me some advice sometimes.

02:09:37.000 I went to her and she said, you know, it's all about what you manifest.

02:09:41.000 And if you manifest a negative outcome, you'll help it along.

02:09:45.000 No, I agree with you.

02:09:45.000 Listen, there is a hierarchy of needs.

02:09:49.000 And I believe in a hierarchy of needs.

02:09:51.000 First, you've got to take care of yourself.

02:09:53.000 Then you want to attain some success.

02:09:55.000 Then you want to take care of others, if you are normal.

02:10:00.000 Folks, you are not fulfilled.

02:10:02.000 You're supposed to take risks, but not risks so you get rich.

02:10:06.000 Risks to defend liberty.

02:10:08.000 Risks to be involved.

02:10:09.000 Look, I don't make a lot of money, but I've got some money in the bank.

02:10:12.000 I don't even spend it on anything.

02:10:13.000 I don't even want things.

02:10:15.000 Things are annoying.

02:10:16.000 Things break.

02:10:20.000 And it's kind of gone to the extreme where I don't even wear suits on my TV show anymore.

02:10:25.000 Which I probably should because they're still probably more effective.

02:10:28.000 It's almost like I've gone to the other extreme now where I just don't even care.

02:10:32.000 All I want is more fuel to fight the enemy.

02:10:36.000 That's why I need funds.

02:10:39.000 And I see other people, it's so alien to me, the people that are into bobbles, into trappings. 0.82

02:10:44.000 I mean, they worship them.

02:10:45.000 That's idol worship.

02:10:46.000 Idol worship is where you take some inanimate object and it means more to you than your children.

02:10:51.000 It means more to you than your wife. 0.87

02:10:53.000 It means more to you.

02:10:54.000 I mean, there's people, poor people, living out in some delta who are a lot happier with their family than some guy with 50 million bucks.

02:11:02.000 In fact, they're some of the most miserable people out there.

02:11:04.000 Yeah, and I think historically, the greatest thinkers of all time, including Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Well, you know, it's either or.

02:11:13.000 If you can give all that up and follow the truth or follow the way, then you've gained the world.

02:11:17.000 And if you can't, then you need to be prayed for.

02:11:20.000 And it's too bad if you can't.

02:11:23.000 If you're a slave to your possession.

02:11:25.000 Well, you know, it's either or.

02:11:26.000 Folks, you don't stay in limbo.

02:11:28.000 You don't stay in purgatory.

02:11:31.000 You either get worse or you get better.

02:11:33.000 Yeah.

02:11:34.000 I mean, that's what I've found in my life.

02:11:35.000 You either get worse or you get better.

02:11:37.000 Yeah.

02:11:37.000 You know, there is no stagnant, you know, right there in one spot, because that is, you know, what I was going to say earlier, It's just that people don't know what they're missing, Sander.

02:11:48.000 They don't know what it's like to really be involved, to try to be informed.

02:11:52.000 I'm not that informed.

02:11:53.000 I'm trying to be informed.

02:11:54.000 To at least be turned on, as they say.

02:11:56.000 Yeah.

02:11:57.000 Yeah, and also, my friend Dan Hopsicker, who broke a lot of the new information about Muhammad Atta in Florida, Hopsicker said, you know, I'm not the greatest investigative reporter in the world, But Hofstra's having the time of his life because he said, all I did was I came down here and I started knocking on doors and I started, you know, breaking in my shoe leather.

02:12:19.000 It's an adventure!

02:12:21.000 Folks, this is the ultimate adventure of fighting the New World Order.

02:12:25.000 People go to Mount Everest and climb it and die.

02:12:28.000 They jump out of airplanes.

02:12:30.000 They go out with wild women or wild men to find adventure. 0.99

02:12:34.000 Folks, being involved in society and fighting these evil bastards is the great adventure. 0.99

02:12:38.000 Right, right. 0.97

02:12:39.000 And what you call the New World Order, I can see your use of that term. 0.97

02:12:42.000 I also call it other things, too.

02:12:44.000 You could call it, you know, the new fascism, or... Well, Hitler called it... Hitler's second book was the New World Order. 0.84

02:12:51.000 Right, right.

02:12:52.000 And I know that George Herbert Walker Bush used it quite a bit in his administration, and that was really creepy.

02:12:57.000 It means the first true global empire.

02:13:00.000 Right, right.

02:13:03.000 I think also it's kind of a reaction against Some of the revolutionary activities of the 60s, too.

02:13:11.000 The neocons and the fat cats up on top and the elites have really gotten scared because they saw what happens when the American population rises up and shuts down a war of conquest.

02:13:22.000 And that's why they shut up a police state.

02:13:24.000 Right, exactly. 0.98

02:13:25.000 So now it's up to us to respond in kind and to be like... Well, and not be co-opted by a bunch of dirty beatniks who are on the federal payroll.

02:13:34.000 Well, you know, Michael Savage was a big beatnik agitator, and now look who he is.

02:13:38.000 Oh, yeah?

02:13:39.000 Well, David Horowitz was a 60's Marxist, and now he's a neocon.

02:13:42.000 No, that's what I'm telling you, is the fake left-hand path commie BS is a control arm of the bankers, bro.

02:13:50.000 Look, I've told you, we've got the documents.

02:13:52.000 They create false alternatives.

02:13:54.000 Yeah.

02:13:56.000 I mean, admittedly, almost all the neocons are hardcore Fourth Internationals.

02:14:00.000 Yeah, but I disagree with people like Web Tarpley, who thinks that the current anti-globalization black bloc is a part of... Well, maybe not the ones you know, brother, but the ones that Delta Force flies into Seattle are.

02:14:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:14.000 Listen, let's take a few calls, because I promise we'll go to folks.

02:14:16.000 This is all riveting.

02:14:17.000 We've got to have you back on soon, but let's take a few more here.

02:14:19.000 Got to move quick now.

02:14:20.000 Kevin in Alabama.

02:14:22.000 Kevin, go ahead.

02:14:24.000 You're on the air from Alabama, Kevin.

02:14:26.000 Go ahead.

02:14:28.000 I just read your Bohemian Grove article on Infowars.com.

02:14:34.000 Yes.

02:14:35.000 About cows sneaking in there.

02:14:37.000 Yes, hold on.

02:14:38.000 I want to know, when are the God-fearing people of America going to raise up?

02:14:43.000 And go up there to California and blow that thing to pieces, man.

02:14:48.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:14:49.000 I thought that's the same guy that called a few weeks ago and then claimed he wasn't. 1.00

02:14:53.000 Are you a fool? 0.99

02:14:55.000 The government carries out terror attacks against itself as a pretext for control. 1.00

02:15:00.000 I mean, the God-fearing people, well there you are, buddy!

02:15:04.000 I mean, I say don't do it, but all the folks that say do that are the ones that never do it.

02:15:08.000 Yeah, and I know, the thing is, we're not going to get anywhere that way.

02:15:12.000 You don't actually create social change in the most fast, effective way using violence.

02:15:18.000 The elite would love that!

02:15:19.000 They'll use that to crack down! 0.70

02:15:20.000 Listen, listen, listen!

02:15:21.000 They just beat up an old man, basically, who was an old party member of Labor.

02:15:25.000 Forever you're allowed to heckle people when they come to your town.

02:15:28.000 They grabbed him and drug him out and roughed him up, and now it's blown up in their face!

02:15:32.000 Let them rough us up! 1.00

02:15:34.000 Let them knock our teeth out! 1.00

02:15:35.000 Let them wear black masks! 0.75

02:15:37.000 Let them do a couple more Waco's! 1.00

02:15:39.000 It's over for them!

02:15:40.000 Yeah, that's actually something I learned in New Mexico on my leave of absence in between my two publishing companies, is I read a lot of Gandhi. 0.70

02:15:45.000 And Gandhi is not like some wimp, lame guy for the weak.

02:15:51.000 Gandhi is for people that really have guts and are willing to suffer in the face of tyranny because they're trying to convert the rest of the population. 0.66

02:15:59.000 And they're even trying to convert the tyrants and trying to say that the tyrants, the police that rough up people at protests are still human and that it's still possible to convert them.

02:16:10.000 And they're able to cover up and feel okay about what they do.

02:16:14.000 There's a time to do it.

02:16:15.000 They're loading your family on trucks to go to a FEMA Extermination Center.

02:16:18.000 You've got to go full tilt boogie in physical combat.

02:16:21.000 But we don't want to get to that point.

02:16:23.000 We can neutralize them by showing what they are.

02:16:27.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

02:16:27.000 Right.

02:16:28.000 Let's take another call.

02:16:30.000 There's a balance, folks.

02:16:32.000 It's called wisdom.

02:16:32.000 It's called discernment.

02:16:36.000 What to do at the time.

02:16:37.000 It isn't just... I've never heard guys for 10 years calling shows.

02:16:40.000 It's time to get ballin'!

02:16:41.000 You need to go for it, Alex!

02:16:42.000 And I go, what's your full name?

02:16:44.000 Here, you say your full name and where you live and now you say it.

02:16:47.000 No, I ain't gonna do that!

02:16:49.000 Here, I mean, that just makes me mad.

02:16:50.000 And I'm not gonna be against you, Kevin, but come on.

02:16:52.000 Stop saying that.

02:16:53.000 In fact, I'm not gonna... Well, I'll let you say that if you want, but I just... It's bordering on fire in the theater, so I might have to ban you.

02:16:59.000 I'm thinking about that.

02:17:01.000 Uh, Bob in, uh... Bob in, uh, Colorado.

02:17:04.000 Go ahead, Bob.

02:17:06.000 Hello!

02:17:07.000 We're about to break.

02:17:07.000 We'll hold you over, but get started.

02:17:09.000 Go ahead.

02:17:09.000 Alright.

02:17:10.000 My question is, if I heard properly, that Mr. Hicks thought an airplane had hit the Pentagon, and a friend of his had seen the plane hit it.

02:17:22.000 Yeah.

02:17:23.000 If this is a question, my question is, was it a two-engine jet, like the one that was supposed to... Stay there, sir, and we'll address it when we get back.

02:17:32.000 Stay there.

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02:22:00.000 And we've written some amazing books.

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02:22:12.000 Let's let Bob finish his question or his comment.

02:22:16.000 Then we'll go to Stephan and then Alex.

02:22:17.000 That'll be it for calls today.

02:22:18.000 I've got a bunch of news I've got to cover.

02:22:20.000 Go ahead, Bob.

02:22:21.000 Finish up your information for Mr. Hicks.

02:22:24.000 Was it a two-engine, large jet, like say a 757?

02:22:29.000 Yeah, what did your witness, your personal friend, say?

02:22:33.000 She said a jet.

02:22:33.000 She said a jet, like a normal jet.

02:22:35.000 So, she saw what was probably a passenger airplane.

02:22:39.000 Now, I just emailed you, Alex.

02:22:40.000 Maybe you could link to it if you feel like it.

02:22:43.000 A very interesting website that was just sent to me by a friend of mine.

02:22:48.000 His name is Mark.

02:22:49.000 He's at oilempire.us.

02:22:53.000 Yeah, he enjoys attacking me.

02:22:55.000 Real friendly fellow.

02:22:57.000 It's okay.

02:22:58.000 It's all right, though.

02:22:59.000 Hey, we take it here.

02:22:59.000 That's what we do.

02:23:00.000 We were attacked and never defend ourselves.

02:23:01.000 Right.

02:23:02.000 Well, my first impression of Mark was not positive, but over time, I've realized that... I don't care.

02:23:07.000 It's okay.

02:23:08.000 What's his comment?

02:23:08.000 Okay, his comment is he's got this great new website.

02:23:12.000 It's not his site.

02:23:13.000 He pointed it out to me.

02:23:15.000 It's kind of a long URL, but it's...

02:23:18.000 Maybe you could link to it.

02:23:19.000 Just send it to me.

02:23:21.000 What's it about?

02:23:22.000 Okay, it breaks down all the eyewitness reports, and it turns out that zero eyewitnesses said they saw a missile, and over 100 eyewitnesses said that they saw a large passenger airplane.

02:23:34.000 A lot of the witnesses are like defense intelligence, CIA people.

02:23:37.000 Yeah, Gary Bauer.

02:23:39.000 But one of them is Joanna Klein, who's my family friend, and she's highly credible.

02:23:45.000 She was working at USA Today.

02:23:47.000 You have to remember that the Pentagon is right outside Crystal City, which is... No, I know.

02:23:51.000 It's right across the lake there, the river there.

02:23:54.000 Right.

02:23:54.000 And then some say the Feds then grabbed all the surveillance tapes to create this story.

02:24:00.000 Right.

02:24:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:24:01.000 The Feds grabbing the surveillance tapes does not prove anything one way or the other, and it certainly makes people suspicious.

02:24:07.000 Well, I want to say this.

02:24:09.000 I'm not going to weigh in on either side.

02:24:10.000 People always ask why in my films I don't.

02:24:12.000 I stick to the 600 plus points we have that totally prove they carried the attacks out.

02:24:18.000 And then the CIA always does attacks like this with different layers too confused.

02:24:23.000 I'm not going to follow those.

02:24:25.000 You notice the national media won't attack me on 9-11.

02:24:27.000 They'll attack others because they're able to poke holes in it.

02:24:30.000 They won't go after me on that.

02:24:31.000 They'll make other stuff up about me and attack me on straw men.

02:24:36.000 Let's take a call from I hope that answers your question, Bob, from Stéphane in France.

02:24:41.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:24:42.000 Yeah, hello, Alex.

02:24:43.000 Hi, Stéphane.

02:24:44.000 Yeah, hi.

02:24:45.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:24:46.000 Yes, sir.

02:24:47.000 Great website you have, prisonplanet.com, prisonplanet.tv.

02:24:51.000 I've been a member for a year, and thanks for all your information.

02:24:54.000 Well, has it been a good service of info for you?

02:24:57.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

02:24:58.000 Actually, as a matter of fact, a lot of the information that I read on your website Uh, comes out in the mainstream media here in France, maybe two or three days later, so it seems that you're ahead of the game when it comes to bringing out stories, especially what's been happening in Besra with the British soldiers.

02:25:16.000 Hasn't been quite covered as well.

02:25:17.000 Oh, is the French news reporting how they got caught carrying out terror attacks?

02:25:20.000 Well, no, what they're doing is they're soft-pedaling it.

02:25:23.000 It's actually, they're saying that there was British agents that were caught But they're not saying, you know, that they had, uh... But the BBC and the government admits they were popping, uh, policemen and running around with bombs!

02:25:34.000 Yeah, the BBC does that, but here, not in France.

02:25:37.000 They, uh, they just said that, uh, you know, two British shoulders were caught, uh, they were rescued, they didn't say, or they weren't saying why they were caught, or what they were doing there, so... Uh, interesting, what's on your mind?

02:25:48.000 Uh, well, I just wanted to know, we have all this information about 9-11, and, you know, we basically know that the government is behind this.

02:25:55.000 I have a two-part question.

02:25:57.000 What can we do as regular citizens to stop this and to spread the word to other people?

02:26:05.000 Once a lot of people know about this, what can we do as a mass to stop this Well, you know, people will even know the globalists are behind it, but they compartmentalize that and then still trust the government and a thousand other fronts and let it get into our lives.

02:26:18.000 We've got to restrict it.

02:26:19.000 We've got to reduce it.

02:26:20.000 We've got to continue to discredit it.

02:26:22.000 We've got to reward good people in government and hold up heroes that do the right thing.

02:26:26.000 We've got to be fearless.

02:26:28.000 I mean, let's... this is a good way to end this interview.

02:26:31.000 It's a great question, Stephan, and we'll come back, Alex, and let you talk, but... Mr. Hicks, I mean, comment on what he just asked.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, well, I assume, of course, he's talking about, he said, as citizens of the U.S., but I guess that doesn't totally matter.

02:26:53.000 I think it's time for a revolution.

02:26:55.000 I think it's time for a revolution of truth, a revolution of peace, and that we're all capable of peace and truth, and yet we engage in these institutions of distortion.

02:27:09.000 It's time to divest ourselves from institutions of distortion.

02:27:13.000 You know, it's time for us to separate ourselves, like the Declaration of Independence says.

02:27:17.000 Yeah.

02:27:18.000 It's time to create something new.

02:27:19.000 It's time to restore the Constitution.

02:27:22.000 Alright, well thank you for joining us, Tanner.

02:27:24.000 It was great.

02:27:25.000 Great, Alex.

02:27:25.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:27:26.000 Stay in contact when that new book comes out.

02:27:28.000 Okay, great.

02:27:29.000 Thank you.

02:27:29.000 Definitely, man.

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02:30:51.000 I'll talk to Alex, Bill, and Mike.

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02:30:57.000 I've got an audio clip I want to play and a bunch of news to cover, so we've got to move quick.

02:31:02.000 But before we go to Debbie, I'm going to be at the Alamo Draft House downtown, the great historical theater where all the big movie directors come in and screen their films.

02:31:16.000 From, who's the guy that made Lord of the Rings?

02:31:18.000 I mean, he's come there and done, uh, and there's Quentin Tarantino.

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02:32:45.000 I love being there.

02:32:46.000 I love giving a speech.

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02:32:49.000 It's really enjoyable.

02:32:50.000 In fact, I would have had probably seven or eight showings of this.

02:32:54.000 It's just that I'm trying to finish, well I'm trying to finish this Bohemian Rhapsody film.

02:32:58.000 Yeah, I mean, this thing isn't done yet.

02:33:00.000 I'm making it right now.

02:33:02.000 And, uh, I'm also, uh, working on the British film, Our Trip to England, but that's got a whole bunch of other stuff in it.

02:33:07.000 That's really a complex film.

02:33:10.000 And, uh, I'm trying to get these out quick, folks.

02:33:12.000 The time is short to expose the New World Order, and the New World Order knows that, so they're moving fast.

02:33:16.000 And, uh, I'm also trying to make, well... The point is, I'm working harder than ever, folks.

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02:33:24.000 I just feel, I don't feel good unless I work all the time.

02:33:26.000 It's like I'm addicted.

02:33:27.000 I've slowed down.

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02:33:29.000 But I work constantly.

02:33:30.000 I feel good.

02:33:32.000 But we're getting the work done.

02:33:34.000 And if you want hard copies of any of the videos, you're not going to be able to get my original Bohemian Grove film in about a month anymore.

02:33:42.000 When the new one comes out, you won't get the original, which is a good video.

02:33:45.000 A lot of cool stuff's been cut out of it in the interest of time for the new stuff to be added.

02:33:50.000 So if you want the original, be sure and get it now.

02:33:53.000 An instant message, Ryan.

02:33:55.000 I keep forgetting to tell him Not ship any orders out for the last two days.

02:34:00.000 It probably already started happening.

02:34:01.000 Since I've been announcing this, we ship almost the same day, usually.

02:34:04.000 I said, I'll sign these.

02:34:07.000 I'll sign them.

02:34:08.000 And if you get one and we forget, just email us and we'll send you a cover, a signed cover, for free, obviously, and you can put it in there.

02:34:15.000 But I've got to go by that office and sign a bunch.

02:34:19.000 But be sure and do that, because it's a collector's item, but I'm not going to offer it anymore.

02:34:24.000 It's just too confusing to have two versions of the same film.

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02:38:17.000 You die in three to five days if you're active within a week and a half, two weeks without water.

02:38:24.000 And you die within a month and a half, two months without food.

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02:38:30.000 Debbie, give folks the toll-free number. 1.00

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02:38:56.000 And they ship it out to you UPS ground, usually get it in four or five days.

02:39:00.000 And are you still doing the deal where you're doing two day air for the regular ground price?

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02:39:06.000 Well that's got to kill you guys, because I know how small your markup is, and then when you give somebody $50 shipping for $18.

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02:39:18.000 I've noticed when something bad happens, everybody else jacks up prices.

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02:39:41.000 Take care, Debbie.

02:39:42.000 Thank you, bye.

02:39:42.000 Good to hear from you.

02:39:43.000 What a nice lady. 1.00

02:39:45.000 And, uh, I've been out of control.

02:39:47.000 I think I bought, like, probably about ten of these filters this year.

02:39:52.000 Something like that, let me think.

02:39:54.000 Another one for my parents, two more for myself.

02:39:58.000 One for my cousin, one for my buddy Tommy, and then one for my neighbor who wanted my even bigger discount I get.

02:40:06.000 So actually I bought about six or seven or so really to give as gifts and I bought a couple others because I had a better discount.

02:40:12.000 Another like 20% or something.

02:40:14.000 But, look, it's a great deal, folks, and I hear these charlatans out there selling these and telling you you're getting the best deal.

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02:40:28.000 And, you know, that's a part of this line that's going on.

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02:40:33.000 Okay.

02:40:35.000 I am going to rapid-fire go through your calls quickly, three of them, then I've got to cover news in the last 15 minutes.

02:40:40.000 Alex and Mass, go ahead, sir.

02:40:42.000 Hey, Alex.

02:40:43.000 I wanted to ask you, I don't know what you know about like astrology or anything, but obviously the New Agers and the New World Order and all these people who praise like Mulligan and all the folks, I think they're interested in this date, which is 2012, December 21st.

02:40:56.000 Yeah, the Aztec or Mayan calendar.

02:40:59.000 Right, yeah, they believe in the cyclic existence of time and that that's the end.

02:41:04.000 Well, the gods have to have millions of dead, or they will stop having their hallucination that is reality.

02:41:13.000 I don't believe that, but that's what I believe.

02:41:15.000 Alright, well I was wondering what you, do you have any beliefs about like, cause like they, even people who don't know about the Mayans, like, belief in it, like, scientists agree that this is a significant, like, astrological event.

02:41:28.000 And I was just wondering if you had any ideas.

02:41:30.000 Well, scientists don't believe in astrology.

02:41:33.000 Well, they believe that You know, our planets are moving around in certain ways and that they can matter.

02:41:39.000 Astrology is not astronomy.

02:41:41.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

02:41:43.000 I meant to say astrology.

02:41:46.000 Astrologers can look up the positions of all the planets and things and look at their different energies and whatnot.

02:41:56.000 That doesn't really affect anything.

02:41:58.000 What matters is the sun.

02:41:59.000 I appreciate your call, Alex.

02:42:00.000 You're a great guy.

02:42:01.000 Look, look.

02:42:02.000 I appreciate your call, Alex.

02:42:04.000 You're a great guy.

02:42:04.000 Let me just say this.

02:42:05.000 I don't get into Vulcan comments.

02:42:10.000 I don't get into Hale-Bopp.

02:42:11.000 I don't get into Planet X.

02:42:14.000 You've got the wrong show.

02:42:15.000 And I'm glad you brought it up and asked the question.

02:42:17.000 But I'm just going to say, because I'm in a hurry, I'm not frustrated with your question Alex, I'm frustrated with time.

02:42:22.000 I could talk for an hour about this.

02:42:24.000 Maybe I should do a show about this sometime.

02:42:27.000 Meteors do hit the planet.

02:42:28.000 We do have calamity.

02:42:29.000 Stuff does happen.

02:42:30.000 There might be some very small effect on the gravity and the tides, according to planets lining up and things.

02:42:35.000 But the Sun is so much bigger and so much more important than that in its energy exchange and its energy radiation with the Earth.

02:42:44.000 I mean, the planets and the gas giants don't even fit into the... They're like a bumblebee compared to the Titanic.

02:42:51.000 I mean, it just doesn't even... The economies of scale and energy we're talking about here.

02:42:57.000 Oh, I'm ranting.

02:42:59.000 2012 is a pagan day, and it's part of their lunacy. 1.00

02:43:05.000 And astrology is not scientific.

02:43:08.000 Bill in Indiana.

02:43:09.000 Bill, go ahead.

02:43:11.000 Hello, welcome.

02:43:12.000 Hi, Alex.

02:43:13.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:43:14.000 Thank you.

02:43:15.000 And I just wanted to tell you very quickly here, I've been trying for months to get this article published in the editorial section of Rising Sun.

02:43:25.000 Recorder of News, it was published September the 8th, and the title to it is Adventures in Genocide.

02:43:32.000 It has to do with employees or scientific people that are going to be hired by, oh, say, defense contractors, and the misuse of their talents, and what their responsibilities should be.

02:43:53.000 uh... to to prevent weapons of mass destruction and and things from from that you know happening and and and i think they are responsible because principle uh... for the Nuremberg principle states that a person acted pursuant to an order from his or her government does not relieve him or her from responsibility under international law.

02:44:15.000 Well yeah we got Israeli and U.S.

02:44:17.000 mercs all over New Orleans by the hundreds The citizens can't have guns, but the foreign mercs can, and the Dutch and all the rest of them will be running around in the Mexican troops. 0.98

02:44:29.000 All these precedents are being set, and yeah, the goblins have been using mercenaries all over the world. 0.83

02:44:35.000 But these people, the scientists, what I'm saying, the misuse, they're conscienceless people, they become intellectual mercenaries or prostitutes. 0.57

02:44:43.000 Oh yeah, there's many more different types of mercenaries, you're right.

02:44:46.000 I mean, the scientific people, I think, Misuse of their scientific expertise is responsible for a lot of the world's problems.

02:44:55.000 Yeah, mercenary scientist.

02:44:57.000 I appreciate your call.

02:44:57.000 It's a very deep, serious issue.

02:44:59.000 I hope you'll call back sometime with more about that, Bill, and send me the article.

02:45:03.000 tipsandinfowars.com.

02:45:05.000 We'll try to post it.

02:45:06.000 Look, the earlier crawler.

02:45:11.000 I think it's important to look at 2012 because the elite believe in it.

02:45:14.000 Just because it's a fraud doesn't mean they don't then manifest bad stuff because they believe in it.

02:45:20.000 Let's go ahead and quickly, I mean, I've got to go fast here, I'm not going to cover this and finish.

02:45:24.000 Mike in Arizona, go ahead.

02:45:26.000 Yes, Alex, great show today.

02:45:27.000 I've got a couple questions about your previous guest, Mr. Hicks.

02:45:32.000 You said that that was standard.com?

02:45:35.000 Standardhicks.com.

02:45:36.000 And that's H-I-C-K-S? 1.00

02:45:39.000 Yeah.

02:45:40.000 Okay, very good.

02:45:40.000 And are you, can you get his, those books there, Fortunate Son, off of that website, do you know?

02:45:48.000 That's what he said, yeah.

02:45:49.000 Okay, because a couple of times it went out there on the air and I didn't catch it at all.

02:45:54.000 Okay, that's all I have.

02:45:55.000 Thanks a lot.

02:45:56.000 Later.

02:45:56.000 Thank you for the call.

02:45:57.000 I really appreciate it, Mike.

02:46:00.000 Alright, here's the news.

02:46:03.000 Some of the news.

02:46:03.000 I should have spent all day on this.

02:46:05.000 Viewpoint, the case for global integration.

02:46:08.000 That's global government, folks.

02:46:10.000 As part of the BBC's Who Runs the World series, Richard N. Haas, president of the U.S.

02:46:15.000 think tank, the Council on Foreign Relations, they put out a report saying merge the U.S.

02:46:19.000 and Mexico, and it's currently happening.

02:46:22.000 I mean, they put the report out a month later.

02:46:23.000 Congress is voting, folks.

02:46:24.000 I mean, they're like the bosses.

02:46:26.000 Assesses the limitations of U.S.

02:46:28.000 power and argues for deeper international collaboration.

02:46:32.000 Who runs the world?

02:46:33.000 The short answer is no one.

02:46:35.000 Given by runs, one nation means control.

02:46:39.000 He goes, no world government exists, and the United Nations, while many things, is anything but united.

02:46:43.000 See, that's not true.

02:46:44.000 And then they call for, we need a world government.

02:46:47.000 In most circumstances, the organization lacks both the consequences, the conscience, as well as the capacity to impose its will on a member, governments, or others.

02:46:56.000 Be the terrorist organizations, or drug cartels, corporations, or NGOs.

02:47:00.000 And of course, it's the corporations lobbying, and then it goes on for four pages about how they need global government now to keep us all safe.

02:47:08.000 Well, the problem is we don't have a global government.

02:47:10.000 No, the problem is we do have a global government that's creating crises to force us into deeper levels of global government control.

02:47:18.000 Go ahead and roll this newscast piece about this armored vehicle.

02:47:21.000 Go ahead and roll that and I'll talk about it when we get back.

02:47:23.000 Here it is, folks.

02:47:25.000 So we heard the discussions earlier at Detroit City Council about this particular vehicle.

02:47:29.000 This is one of the GPV armoured personnel carriers.

02:47:32.000 Two cameras up front here, actually there's four all around the vehicle, with night vision and regular cameras.

02:47:38.000 This truck is actually amphibious.

02:47:40.000 It's completely waterproof.

02:47:41.000 Once you fan down the hatches, you can drive through a lake basically.

02:47:45.000 Those things on top, they're periscopes.

02:47:47.000 So the people, again, no windows on the vehicle.

02:47:49.000 The people inside are totally safe.

02:47:52.000 Inside, we have an air handling system.

02:47:53.000 If there's a chemical or a biological attack, the folks inside are going to be totally safe.

02:47:58.000 Again, these are the periscopes that the crew inside can actually look out and see exactly what's going on outside.

02:48:03.000 Now, as we try to get up front here, there we go, we can... This is Bill.

02:48:07.000 He's going to be driving us around.

02:48:09.000 This is the periscope.

02:48:11.000 They're all around the cockpit here, and you can see out.

02:48:13.000 Now, we do have the sunroof open.

02:48:15.000 This vehicle, again, is very easy to drive.

02:48:17.000 I took it for a spin earlier.

02:48:18.000 Rather easy to drive.

02:48:19.000 It's like driving a minivan, really.

02:48:21.000 Uh, fully automatic.

02:48:22.000 Uh, again, this vehicle is all over the world.

02:48:24.000 They got them in the Middle East, they've got them down in, uh, the Gulf Coast. 0.97

02:48:27.000 They had Katrina here recently. 0.78

02:48:29.000 Sheriff Mike Bouchard and the Oakland County Sheriff's took one down there.

02:48:32.000 So this is the, uh, this is the tour of the, uh, the vehicle in question.

02:48:36.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:41.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

02:51:52.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:51:56.000 Just a note on what I talked about in the middle of the last hour that you can read here or here tonight.

02:52:01.000 You know, people always think they can push me around.

02:52:03.000 They take that as a sign of weakness.

02:52:05.000 And then when I blow them over, when I stand up to them, especially in politics and crush them, they just become part of the long trail of people we've defeated.

02:52:15.000 Because a man on the right who keeps on coming, a man on the wrong can't stand against them.

02:52:22.000 And so, c'est la vie, whatever has to happen, I'm ready to expose these people.

02:52:28.000 We're hearing about forced silence incites critics of the Patriot Act and the New Jersey Star Ledger.

02:52:33.000 Yeah, when they come into the bookstores or the libraries and say, let us see your records, they enjoin the people they order to give them the records that they'll be arrested as terrorists.

02:52:44.000 And, uh, it's in Patriot Act 2, executed, but just put in President or Patriot Act 1, if they tell anyone ever that the police questioned them or looked at the records, so it also destroys free speech.

02:52:54.000 Without a judge or a jury, could spend an hour on that.

02:52:58.000 But this tyranny is exposing them.

02:53:00.000 Oh, the Patriot Act doesn't affect citizens?

02:53:02.000 Doesn't take any rights?

02:53:03.000 Oh, no, it doesn't. 0.99

02:53:04.000 Congenital liars. 0.97

02:53:05.000 The truth's coming out. 0.98

02:53:07.000 82-year-old manhandled, ejected from labor conference after criticizing nonsense war.

02:53:12.000 Americans and Brits for the last 200 plus years have always been able to criticize members of parliament and government when they come to meetings.

02:53:20.000 Well, I've been arrested for just asking a question at the end of a press conference.

02:53:24.000 This is the new freedom.

02:53:25.000 Clinton really started it.

02:53:26.000 Bush has become the master.

02:53:28.000 But over in England, it's unheard of for this to happen.

02:53:30.000 The Labour Party was forced to make a humiliating apology to an 82-year-old party member last night after he was thrown out of a conference for heckling Jack Straw.

02:53:38.000 Walter Wolfgang, a party member for 57 years, was Bundled out of the conference, it shows him dragging him by his hair savagely, hauled by stewards that were shouting nonsense at Mr. Straw.

02:53:49.000 The Foreign Secretary was defending Britain's role in Iraq.

02:53:52.000 He was later stopped under anti-terrorist powers as he tried to re-enter the hall.

02:53:57.000 So they drug him out by his hair, he tried to re-enter, and they said, no, you may be a terrorist.

02:54:01.000 It's like the Minutemen can't go to a press conference at Capitol Hill because they're terrorists. 0.76

02:54:05.000 See, this is all so you can't fly, you can't move, you can't do anything.

02:54:09.000 The heavy-handed treatment of Mr. Wolfgang received criticism of the control freaky associated with new labor.

02:54:16.000 And then, you know, I'm sick of hearing about Al-Zawahiri got killed or captured again, and now that, ooh, bin Laden might be trying to come to England.

02:54:22.000 Bin Laden's in Pakistan.

02:54:24.000 Number three at the CIA said they don't want to capture him.

02:54:28.000 Of course he's CIA!

02:54:30.000 I mean, Bazi Krongar has said they don't want to get him.

02:54:32.000 Generals have gone public that they weren't even allowed to capture Taliban generals when they would capture them in order to release them.

02:54:38.000 And Al-Qaeda generals.

02:54:39.000 It's staged!

02:54:43.000 It's public!

02:54:45.000 The Bushes are in business with them.

02:54:46.000 The CIA founded it.

02:54:47.000 I mean, it's admitted.

02:54:49.000 It's not even debatable.

02:54:51.000 This is the stuff I can't ever get over.

02:54:54.000 And I will never get over.

02:54:56.000 It's just too out of control.

02:54:59.000 I am out of time here, and we will be back tonight, nine to midnight, Central Standard Time.

02:55:06.000 One more article out of Reuters.

02:55:07.000 Reuters says U.S.

02:55:09.000 troops obstructing reporting of Iraq, as well as killing reporters.

02:55:12.000 It's more on that.

02:55:14.000 More of the freedom!

02:55:16.000 Senator says that God is judging us with disastrous hurricanes.

02:55:20.000 He cites his culture of gambling, sin, and wickedness.

02:55:24.000 What about abortion?

02:55:26.000 What about false wars?

02:55:28.000 But I do have to agree with the Senator that when we... It's just what's always happened in history.

02:55:33.000 When you get decadent and evil, God lives His protection from you.

02:55:37.000 And I just pray that all of those enemies that are attacking freedom lovers, and those that are lying about God's people, that God protect us from them however God has to.

02:55:49.000 If we say that prayer, believe me, God will take action.

02:55:52.000 It's real!

02:55:53.000 Alright, as I said, back to 9-9, the midnight Central Standard Time.

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