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00:00:23.000 Well, she was the commanding general over all the prisons and detention centers.

00:00:28.000 I bet she's got some stories to tell.

00:00:30.000 In Iraq, and she was General Janice Berpinski.

00:00:33.000 She's joining us in about five minutes.

00:00:36.000 The only female general officer commanding troops in the combat zone in Iraq.

00:00:40.000 And they try to scapegoat her. 0.99

00:00:42.000 That's coming up.

00:00:43.000 Also, your calls.

00:00:44.000 Let's go to your calls right now.

00:00:46.000 Scott Ritter, the UN weapons inspector, with a bunch of new revelations and developments.

00:00:50.000 Another big whistleblower joining us in the next hour.

00:00:54.000 Let's go to Joel in Wisconsin right now.

00:00:56.000 Joel, welcome.

00:00:58.000 Hi Alex.

00:00:59.000 I wanted to go over a few things like the Fed Chair being changed.

00:01:03.000 I know Alan Greenspan said that the gold-backed dollar is the best thing.

00:01:08.000 Then when he gets in, All of a sudden, oh no, no, no.

00:01:13.000 He wrote books that sounded like they were written by Eustace Mullins.

00:01:17.000 I mean, these are published in Ayn Rand publications in the 60s.

00:01:17.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:21.000 But by the 70s, he switched over to their side.

00:01:24.000 They actually paid him off and hired him.

00:01:26.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:27.000 I mean, he was one of us, folks.

00:01:28.000 He talked just like us.

00:01:29.000 I'm going to make a prediction.

00:01:31.000 I'm going to predict that interest rates are going to rise through the roof, that this new chairman is going to burst the housing bubble for sure.

00:01:38.000 And what they're doing is they're using the hurricane and did you know just in the past half day or so there's been a bombing that went off in Baghdad again.

00:01:49.000 But the terrorists are blowing up reporters. 0.99

00:01:56.000 Now I couldn't think of any terrorists In the right or wrong mind, that would do something that stupid. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Yeah, why do the terrorists always do what helps the globalists? 0.99

00:02:06.000 Like, Saddam says, I hate Al-Qaeda, I'm fighting them, which is true. 1.00

00:02:09.000 And then all of a sudden, Bin Laden pops up and goes, no, no, I'm working with him. 0.98

00:02:14.000 And then, of course, Colin Powell knows hours before the tape's released, because he works for them.

00:02:20.000 It's totally and completely slick luck.

00:02:23.000 Well, why would they want bad press releases?

00:02:26.000 I mean, what...

00:02:27.000 I'm looking at it this way.

00:02:28.000 The government, if some reporter got a hold of some really hot news that was, like, meltdown great, I would think that the government would want them hushed up really quick.

00:02:39.000 But I don't think terrorists would... Well, sir, it's not just your logic that's correct.

00:02:44.000 It's the facts.

00:02:45.000 You notice the Spanish judge has indicted and is calling for the arrest of the troops that fired with the Abrams into the hotel?

00:02:55.000 No one was firing at them from the hotel.

00:02:57.000 The 9th floor was doing bad reports on them killing kids.

00:03:01.000 They just had arguments with them. 0.63

00:03:02.000 They were ordered to assassinate them. 0.98

00:03:04.000 The Pentagon said they were going to kill reporters beforehand.

00:03:08.000 And I hear neocons on the radio going, our troops just can't do anything right.

00:03:12.000 They just can't defend themselves.

00:03:14.000 They openly are targeting reporters.

00:03:17.000 It's like in the Associated Press.

00:03:19.000 They had major reporters, a big gaggle of them, had an officer walk over to them.

00:03:23.000 Remember this a few weeks ago?

00:03:25.000 In New Orleans.

00:03:27.000 And he said, I don't care if the federal court says you're allowed to take photos and be here. 0.98

00:03:32.000 You release one photo of any of this, we are going to kill you like we do people in Iraq. 1.00

00:03:38.000 Now that's in front of reporters! 1.00

00:03:39.000 That's not us claiming they kill reporters, that's them saying, we kill you! 1.00

00:03:44.000 We will kill you! 0.99

00:03:45.000 In America, troops saying, an officer, right in front of a whole group of reporters, knowing it, get out! 1.00

00:03:51.000 We will kill you!

00:03:52.000 I think they're using Harris as a lightning rod, because I don't think she's electable, but I do think that the next person they put in is going to be even worse, but it's going to be the other side. 0.99

00:04:02.000 So...

00:04:04.000 Would it be okay if I listen off air to the interview?

00:04:08.000 Sir, we can't let people sit on the phone line.

00:04:09.000 I do appreciate your call.

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00:08:28.000 Thank you so much.

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00:08:31.000 We've got Scott Ritter coming on in the next hour.

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00:09:03.000 But for the next 51 minutes, and we're even going to take some calls a little bit later, we are joined by the Brigadier General, retired now, and she was the head of all the prisons and detainment

00:09:18.000 Facilities, 17 of them, at the time, in Iraq, 3400 soldiers, and she's Janice Karpinski, and when she started refusing to be scapegoated, and started pointing out the military intelligence, and the 205 military intelligence brigade was in control of every wing, in every prison where this stuff was going on, where the torture was going on,

00:09:44.000 When she wouldn't fall on her sword and commit Harry Caray when she hadn't done anything, Lord Bush, the silver spoon creature, fell on, basically forced her to, well, be broken down to a kernel.

00:10:00.000 And it just makes me so angry.

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00:10:16.000 And General, it's really good to have you on with us today.

00:10:20.000 And it is great to be with you.

00:10:22.000 It's a privilege.

00:10:23.000 Thank you very much.

00:10:24.000 For those that don't know, I mean, we have General Togumbo's own report.

00:10:28.000 I mean, it's admitted raping, pouring acid on people, the photos we've seen of the tip of the iceberg, but then, day one, I knew that even at Camp X-Ray, Brigadier General Rick Baucus refused to torture, so he got kicked out, as well, so you're among a lot of other company, and now that's finally broken on, not on the major TV shows like Frontline, but we reported on it two years ago, I mean, this is going on.

00:10:56.000 For those that don't know, the torture is admitted, but we know that even in Guantanamo Bay, there is a CIA base within the base, that's where the torture goes on, and can you break this down and basically go through what happened and how they tried to scapegoat you?

00:11:13.000 Well, I guess we'll never know until they're willing to admit, and they never will, but we can speculate as to why they wanted to scapegoat me, and there's every reason to believe That those reasons are valid.

00:11:26.000 But it started when we were assigned this new mission for detention operations.

00:11:32.000 We were basically sold a false bill of goods.

00:11:34.000 They told us that we were going to Baghdad, that we were going to receive support from the CJTF-7, General Sanchez's headquarters.

00:11:42.000 And from Ambassador Bremmer at the Coalition Provisional Authority that we would be working with these prisons experts at the Coalition Provisional Authority to work towards restoring Iraqi jails and prisons to turn it back over to the Iraqi control.

00:11:57.000 To arrive in Baghdad to discover that they had just begun to identify some locations.

00:12:02.000 They had a list of 121 prisons that they wanted to restore and that they wanted us to run.

00:12:09.000 And I told them I didn't have nearly that number of resources.

00:12:12.000 I could run about 15.

00:12:14.000 We settled on 17.

00:12:17.000 And they were responsible for providing the funding to restore those prisons and renovate those prisons.

00:12:24.000 That was very slow in coming, only to discover after those contractors left that most of the contract work that had been allegedly done and paid for was in fact never done.

00:12:34.000 So we had MPs that were running these facilities in very, very austere conditions.

00:12:42.000 The prisons that were restored were done to the minimal standards.

00:12:48.000 In one case, the contractors put the hinges on the insides of the prison doors so the prisoners took all the hinge pins out and were waiting outside in the courtyard and scared the Iraqi guards away and the MPs had to go back in.

00:13:00.000 uh... regain control of the prison facility but Abu Ghraib was never intended to be a permanent prison detention or prison or detention operation it was used as an interim facility largely because there was real estate available inside the twenty foot high retaining wall uh... which was the first line of defense uh... for us to establish temporary camps prisoner of war camps if there was still a war going on

00:13:29.000 This would have been much like a prisoner of war camp.

00:13:33.000 It was never an ideal location of any kind for detention operations, let alone interrogation operations, as it ultimately became.

00:13:41.000 General, we're talking to Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, now retired, and Lord Bush bossed her down to colonel when she started going public about a year ago, refusing to go along with this fraud.

00:13:53.000 I mean, specifically, let's get into the separation of duties.

00:13:56.000 Once you guys Are in there, you're overloaded, 3400 troops, that's with security, a lot of your prisons and facilities are under daily bombardment by rockets, grenades, snipers, bombings.

00:14:10.000 And on top of this, I didn't specifically, because obviously you were there in commanding this, how the military intelligence took over and cloistered and kind of sequestered their own little reservations within your reservations.

00:14:25.000 The military intelligence brigade commander relocated to Abu Ghraib after one of his soldiers, two of his soldiers were killed in a RPG attack out at the prison facility.

00:14:36.000 He was visiting one night, only intended to spend one or two nights out there.

00:14:40.000 There was an attack and two of his soldiers were killed and shortly after that he made the decision to relocate to Abu Ghraib and he had about six interrogation teams which then became about a dozen interrogation teams and these were military interrogators.

00:14:58.000 These were soldiers who were serving as interrogators.

00:15:01.000 They were following their regulations, their doctrine.

00:15:04.000 We had a very low number, a very small number of uh... prisoners that needed to be interrogated they were mostly iraqi criminals nonviolent crime looting Missing curfew, a weapon in the trunk of a car, whatever it may have been.

00:15:19.000 Well, that's what the Army's other report said.

00:15:22.000 It said that between 75 and 90 percent were totally innocent and just hadn't had their papers in order.

00:15:28.000 That's correct.

00:15:29.000 And it remains so, I believe, it remains so today.

00:15:33.000 Because they're still doing these raids, these roundups, where they'll go out and target an individual and whoever happens to be around that individual, they bring them all in.

00:15:41.000 And then there's no way, there's no avenue to release them Once they're tagged as security detainees, they fall into this relatively new and unsupervised category.

00:15:53.000 And when you had this departure from detention operations and following the rules to control of detention operations by a military intelligence commander, you have a complete departure from Anything other than chaos, as far as who's in charge, who can give me orders, who can instruct me.

00:16:13.000 What was it like having somebody under you, though?

00:16:15.000 I mean, I've heard the stories of Delta Force commanding generals around.

00:16:19.000 What was it like having somebody under you, basically telling you what to do?

00:16:23.000 Well, Colonel Pappas never worked for me.

00:16:26.000 He was never in my chain of command.

00:16:27.000 So he just basically did whatever he wanted?

00:16:29.000 Absolutely.

00:16:30.000 When it came to interrogations, he answered to General Fast.

00:16:33.000 Who was the intelligence officer at the headquarters and to General Sanchez, who was the commander.

00:16:38.000 He didn't report any of his interrogation findings through me.

00:16:41.000 In fact, the one time that one of his captains, when we had this first raid that was conducted and they brought in about 37 security detainees, within about 36 hours they had interviewed all of them and said that the majority of them were available for release.

00:17:00.000 When I briefed that, that evening at the nightly update, I was told by General Wojcikowski, the Deputy Commander, not to release anybody.

00:17:09.000 And who gave me those instructions?

00:17:12.000 And I said, they weren't instructions, it was a list.

00:17:14.000 The interrogator said they were eligible to be released and were ready to release them.

00:17:19.000 And there is no further intel value.

00:17:21.000 He said, you are not to release anybody.

00:17:23.000 And then he got the captain and read him the riot act about not releasing anybody and there started the pattern of holding.

00:17:31.000 Largely innocent people.

00:17:34.000 General, we've got you for the rest of this hour, and my mind is just spinning.

00:17:38.000 I mean, there's so much I want to talk about.

00:17:39.000 I want to talk about what happened in there, how they kept you guys out of it, then how they tried to blame you with it, when their own documents show you weren't even allowed in there.

00:17:48.000 All of this going on, and then we've got Alberto Gonzalez writing memos that then the Pentagon uses, giving orders to their own little subgroups under black ops, And then they send people to prison for following orders, even in their own groups.

00:18:05.000 I mean it's just, there's so many facets to this.

00:18:08.000 And they're all bad.

00:18:11.000 Yes.

00:18:13.000 We can trace now, we can trace back to, through documents that were released under court order, we can trace back to the original document, the one that Alberto Gonzalez reviewed and discussed with the President of the United States, a departure from the Geneva Convention.

00:18:30.000 These are not prisoners, these are terrorists.

00:18:33.000 And these techniques will be more effective.

00:18:36.000 And then Secretary Rumsfeld putting his signature on a document authorizing more aggressive techniques, harsher techniques during interrogation.

00:18:45.000 That document goes down to Guantanamo Bay and over to Afghanistan and it's used perhaps first in small groups and then it's used at Guantanamo Bay as a standard practice.

00:18:59.000 Well, specifically, General, we've got a break, but what about private contractors inside Abu Ghraib and other areas?

00:19:06.000 Because we've seen the reports that they were in there, too.

00:19:09.000 Absolutely.

00:19:10.000 And when you ask private contractors to do anything related to combat operations, you're already heading down a very dangerous path.

00:19:17.000 We're talking about mercenaries, but now mercenary interrogators?

00:19:22.000 I mean, I remember sitting in an L.A.

00:19:26.000 hotel room watching Rumsfeld go on, we've taken the gloves off, we're really pressuring him, and in laughter in the military briefing, this was all publicly encouraged!

00:19:36.000 And then they can send people to prison while they don't get in trouble?

00:19:40.000 I just can't figure that out.

00:19:42.000 General, this is amazing.

00:19:43.000 We'll be back in about three minutes.

00:19:43.000 We've got a break.

00:19:45.000 And then we'll continue.

00:19:48.000 Just any areas, directions you want to go in, just tell us because this is such a wide field.

00:19:56.000 We'll be right back.

00:19:57.000 We're talking to General Janice Karpinski.

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00:24:03.000 Folks, I want you to think about the magnitude of the defections.

00:24:08.000 Last week we had Ray McGovern, number five in the CIA, who briefed Ronald Reagan, who briefed George Bush Sr., coming right out on air saying Bush may carry out terror attacks because he's in so much trouble to keep his war going.

00:24:24.000 That our own government might pull something.

00:24:26.000 I mean, that's how out in the open all this is getting.

00:24:29.000 That's how many whistleblowers there are. 0.55

00:24:31.000 Ron Paul, Republican Congressman, saying the government may be preparing for a coup d'etat, for martial law.

00:24:38.000 I mean, that's how Twilight Zone things have gotten in here.

00:24:41.000 We are talking to Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, in her new book, One Woman's Army.

00:24:48.000 You talk about courage!

00:24:49.000 You know, at first, they were blaming her, and people said, oh, she's the one.

00:24:52.000 I got on here, remember?

00:24:53.000 And I said, folks, these areas are under military intelligence control.

00:24:58.000 They're CIA interrogators.

00:25:00.000 It's the same thing at Camp X-Ray.

00:25:02.000 They have a CIA base within a base.

00:25:04.000 This is pure bull.

00:25:05.000 And later, that did come out.

00:25:07.000 I'm not tooting my horn.

00:25:08.000 We knew how they were doing this.

00:25:10.000 General, I mean, let's go right down the line here.

00:25:16.000 We have the documents.

00:25:17.000 We know where these orders to do this torture came from.

00:25:21.000 Came right from the top.

00:25:22.000 Filtered all the way down through the Secretary of Defense with the endorsement of the President, the Vice President, you know, whatever advisors are surrounding him.

00:25:32.000 And filtered down through the commanders in the field.

00:25:36.000 These practices were not only endorsed but were in use at Guantanamo Bay and in locations in Afghanistan.

00:25:43.000 And when General Miller visited Iraq He carried those techniques with him and taught the interrogators on site how to be more effective in their interrogations.

00:25:53.000 And then he sent contract interrogators and people he knew, military people he knew, who had performed well down at Guantanamo Bay, he sent them to Iraq as well.

00:26:04.000 So really we had kind of torture seminars going on?

00:26:08.000 Yes, everywhere except in Abu Ghraib.

00:26:11.000 Because General Miller must have thought that his discussions with the Military Intelligence Brigade Commander were effective enough for him to understand that he could do anything he needed to do to get actionable intelligence from the prisoners.

00:26:26.000 Now, you know, they talk about how they went after Grainer in England and others because they had photos, but you point out in your book, why then, you know, who took the pictures and why did that happen?

00:26:40.000 And then on top of it, if Congress has seen over 2,000 photos and over 100 videos of raping women, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about savage Joseph Mingala type stuff, even underage people.

00:26:52.000 I mean, if this is going on, then why haven't all those people been indicted?

00:26:56.000 Because they needed a group of people to call the scapegoat, excuse me, they needed to scapegoat people that, and they must have believed naively that they were going to take the punishment, go to jail, and be quiet.

00:27:10.000 That they would never go out and hire their own attorneys or representatives for themselves in their own cases.

00:27:18.000 They certainly believed that I was going to be quiet, that I was just going to take what they were accusing me of and go back home to the United States after my deployment.

00:27:27.000 Now this was in the press.

00:27:28.000 The first you heard of it was when the investigation was already going and you'd never even been in that area of the prison.

00:27:33.000 That's correct.

00:27:34.000 I didn't hear about this from the people that you would think I should hear it from.

00:27:38.000 General Sanchez or his intelligence officer, General Fast.

00:27:42.000 I heard about this in an email late at night From the Commander of the Criminal Investigation Division.

00:27:48.000 And his agent on site at Abu Ghraib is the one who actually received the disc of pictures, the initial disc, from the MP.

00:27:57.000 And he called the commander and they opened an investigation.

00:28:00.000 So when I got the email that mentioned an ongoing investigation, that was on the 12th of January of 2004.

00:28:06.000 That was the first I heard of any investigation.

00:28:10.000 You're the commanding officer of all the prisons and you don't even know about it.

00:28:15.000 They kept me out of the loop on purpose.

00:28:15.000 That's correct.

00:28:19.000 How is the military supposed to operate?

00:28:22.000 I mean, no military has ever done this.

00:28:24.000 Hitler was really the first to have the SS separate from the mainline army and it was disastrous. 0.61

00:28:30.000 And this was disastrous as well.

00:28:32.000 You take a prison location, That was never a good location for any kind of detention operations.

00:28:40.000 It was being mortared every night.

00:28:42.000 It was in the middle of the Sunni triangle. 0.52

00:28:44.000 And now you take this operation and you put it under the control of the military intelligence.

00:28:50.000 And their objective is completely different than the objective of a military police soldier.

00:28:56.000 And they know how to treat prisoners humanely and fairly and they did so in every facility where they were running detention operations.

00:29:03.000 The only Well, I read about where they would go get prison guards, federal prison guards with bad records, and actually hire them.

00:29:10.000 the military intelligence brigade well I read about where they would go get prison guards federal prison guards with bad records right and actually higher than they were actually scouting for sickos well there is a you know and not only the prisons experts that were hired there we were supposed to have about 80 of them down at the coalition provisional authority There was three.

00:29:34.000 And then one of them got fired.

00:29:36.000 And these are U.S.

00:29:37.000 contractors.

00:29:38.000 Of course, they didn't share the information about their previous positions with us, but after we returned, we found out that... General, we got a break.

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00:33:02.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:33:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:08.000 We've got the General for about 30 more minutes.

00:33:14.000 Really honored to have her.

00:33:15.000 She's the Brigadier General who ran the prisons and camps in Iraq.

00:33:20.000 General Janice Harpinski, her new book, One Woman's Army, and it's in bookstores everywhere.

00:33:26.000 You need to get it.

00:33:27.000 And look, I just got my copy a few days ago that the publisher mailed me.

00:33:30.000 It's excellent.

00:33:31.000 I haven't read the whole thing and I've read about three chapters.

00:33:34.000 But we need to support people that are bold and tell the truth.

00:33:38.000 And they didn't expect her to go public.

00:33:39.000 That's where we had left off when we went to break.

00:33:43.000 I guess they expect you to be spineless like all the others.

00:33:47.000 You know, there's an increasing number and it's a great concern to me personally and professionally because I saw senior officers in Iraq who were More concerned about the political ramifications of their decisions than they were about the leadership or moral decisions, ramifications.

00:34:03.000 They were hesitant to go against anything that Secretary Rumsfeld was putting out because he had proven, if you don't agree with him, You'll find yourself on the street.

00:34:16.000 You'll find yourself without a position.

00:34:18.000 So there is no backbone anymore that, you know, we've become very famous for in the military.

00:34:24.000 We have the strongest military in the world, but our leaders are now afraid.

00:34:28.000 They're afraid to voice their opinions, they're afraid to state their opinions, and they're afraid to say, no, you're wrong.

00:34:35.000 General, even their Enron crony, their darling, Army Secretary White, who was an insider with these guys, he said, look, the generals say 400,000 troops.

00:34:44.000 We're going to fail.

00:34:46.000 It's what all the RAM Corporation says.

00:34:48.000 And they said, you're out of there, buddy.

00:34:50.000 And that's what they did to General Shinseki as well.

00:34:53.000 He went back to Secretary Rumsfeld twice, and he said, we need more than 300,000 soldiers if we're going to do this right.

00:35:00.000 And the second time he went back to him, he said, well, then I guess you don't understand me, and I don't need you.

00:35:05.000 And he brought in his own team.

00:35:07.000 And General Shinseki was, for all practical purposes, a lame duck for months until he retired.

00:35:15.000 It's amazing though that, I mean, when they get unanimous data from the people that know how to fight wars, and know how to get the power back on and help the civilian population, they just, you know, I'm sure you've seen the Karl Rove quote where he says, we control reality, we make reality.

00:35:32.000 I mean, they really are delusional.

00:35:33.000 You want to see reality?

00:35:34.000 Go to Baghdad, that's reality. 1.00

00:35:36.000 Walk the ground where the soldiers are walking, that's reality.

00:35:40.000 This nonsense about running, and this is what happened with the CJTF 7 headquarters.

00:35:45.000 The officers on General Sanchez's staff were trying to run the war from their laptop computers.

00:35:50.000 They didn't go out and walk the ground that the soldiers were walking.

00:35:53.000 They didn't see what the soldiers were facing every day.

00:35:57.000 They were trying to run the war from their laptop computers.

00:36:00.000 They were afraid to go out in the middle of the hostilities, but they had no problem sending any of us out. 0.81

00:36:06.000 to do that work.

00:36:07.000 So we've gone from George Washington at Trenton charging into the German soldiers himself with bullets flicking through his hat to generals cowering in armored compounds.

00:36:18.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:36:20.000 You want to know where the armored vehicles were and they weren't out on the road with the soldiers?

00:36:24.000 They were protecting the spokesperson for General Sanchez.

00:36:28.000 They were parked on the confines of Camp Victory So in case any of those officers had to take a 20-minute journey somewhere across the road to the airport, they'd be in an up-armored vehicle.

00:36:37.000 And soldiers were paying the price for that.

00:36:42.000 Well, they don't care.

00:36:43.000 They'll just have a neocon get on the radio and say they've got plenty of armored vehicles when I've got family over there and they still don't.

00:36:50.000 What are these letters we're getting back home?

00:36:52.000 What are these soldiers saying?

00:36:53.000 Are they all wrong?

00:36:54.000 Are they all making this up?

00:36:56.000 When a soldier stands up and says to the Secretary of Defense, why don't we have the right equipment if you want us to do this the right way and survive?

00:37:04.000 And he says, well, we go to war with the army, we have not necessarily the one that we want.

00:37:08.000 And it's never addressed again.

00:37:11.000 The person who stopped, the person who stopped the orders for additional armored equipment and armored vehicles is today a four-star general and is in the Pentagon and is serving as the, he is the acting Chief of Staff of the Army.

00:37:27.000 Well, the FBI agents that blocked Robert Wright and Kathleen Rowley and others, who specifically had the documents and knew who the hijackers were according to the official story, they all got demoted or removed or fired, but the people that blocked them have all been promoted.

00:37:42.000 See how it works?

00:37:44.000 You play the game, you go along with whatever's being spun by the neocons or by the Pentagon, and you get promoted.

00:37:50.000 But the people who have the strength and the moral courage to stand up and say, this is wrong, this is a lie, they're removed from their positions, they take their security clearances away, and then they're out on the street.

00:38:04.000 And that's a big message to be sending throughout the force.

00:38:08.000 You cross the Secretary of Defense and you're out on the street.

00:38:11.000 But if I was the Secretary of Defense, I would want the real intel.

00:38:15.000 I would want to know what was really going on.

00:38:17.000 I would want to know what the trained war fighters were saying instead of this delusional la-la. 0.99

00:38:23.000 I mean, just because I think something doesn't make it so.

00:38:26.000 Or just because you repeat a lie often enough doesn't make it the truth.

00:38:30.000 But, you've already started down that road.

00:38:32.000 If you stop this train, which is what they need to do, realistically, they need to stop this train and say, wait, clean the slate, we need to get to the truth and we need to get there now.

00:38:46.000 But, I mean, how obvious, General, how obvious is it?

00:38:49.000 When we got the memos saying, well, these are Wellian terms, I mean, these are public.

00:38:54.000 Well, we can torture somebody to death, and if we don't mean to kill them, and we don't call it torture, it isn't torture.

00:38:59.000 I mean, torturing people to death, folks, and this happens all the time, and then the Congress You know, 90 to 9, the Senate says, no more torture, you've got to follow the manual, you've got to follow the law, the regulations, and then Bush says, no, I'm going to veto that!

00:39:17.000 I mean, look, he's sending people to prison, little nothings, like England and Grainer, They're obviously psychopaths, but the point is, they're sending them to prison for following their degenerate orders of the handlers that were in there controlling them, that took the photos, that thought it was cute.

00:39:35.000 Meanwhile, Bush is on TV saying, I'm going to veto, we're going to torture!

00:39:40.000 Right, what are they afraid of?

00:39:41.000 Why do we have to have a new law that says we're not going to torture or abuse?

00:39:48.000 That's what the Geneva Conventions are supposed to be about.

00:39:51.000 Why do we have to have a law? 0.99

00:39:52.000 I think it's a step in the right direction.

00:39:54.000 But General, even the Soviets, even the Soviets didn't admit they tortured. 0.76

00:39:59.000 Hitler didn't admit they tortured. 0.74

00:40:00.000 I'm sorry for interrupting, but it seems we've reached a new level here where they even admit it now.

00:40:06.000 Well, exactly.

00:40:07.000 Because there's overwhelming proof that it's not only been going on, but it's been directed and is likely continuing even to this day.

00:40:15.000 I don't want to believe that it is, but the statements from people that are just returning from the theater give every indication that in fact it is.

00:40:23.000 They still don't know where to draw the line.

00:40:25.000 General, why is the torture so perverted?

00:40:31.000 Well, I think, you know, to me, when they use, particularly women, this sexual overtones, using a woman to try to get an Iraqi man to, or a Muslim man, to break and to give them information. 0.96

00:40:47.000 This is insulting and humiliating, not only to the female that they're using to do the interrogation, but they're getting some kind of bizarre sense of pleasure, the interrogators are, watching this whole thing take place.

00:41:00.000 I know, this is something out of a horror movie! 0.88

00:41:02.000 Naked women putting... putting... I mean, I hate to use this, but we have to... menstrual fluids on men? 1.00

00:41:08.000 I mean, this is... Exactly, and who studied the Arab culture to come up with such an idea?

00:41:14.000 I mean, this is insulting to anybody.

00:41:17.000 But I mean, if I made a horror movie where the military was doing this, people wouldn't believe it.

00:41:21.000 It's so bizarre.

00:41:22.000 It is bizarre.

00:41:23.000 And the fact that they're using female soldiers to conduct this demonstrates what they're thinking about the likely role for women in the military. 0.99

00:41:35.000 Well, listen, if they told me in the military, go in there and do something to a woman, I'd be, you can go to hell. 1.00

00:41:40.000 Exactly. 0.96

00:41:41.000 And I think the majority of soldiers that are serving today would do exactly that.

00:41:46.000 They'd say, hold on a second, I am not going to do that.

00:41:50.000 And they could threaten your career, they could do anything they needed to, but I would take the same position.

00:41:54.000 Oh no, I'm not.

00:41:56.000 And that's why they took every effort to keep me away from getting any information about what was going on.

00:42:02.000 And then they tried to burn you because you had been investigating it.

00:42:05.000 That's right.

00:42:06.000 And because I would have objected I would have complained to the top level.

00:42:11.000 I never would have allowed this to take place.

00:42:13.000 What was the breaking point?

00:42:14.000 I mean, when did you decide to not roll over and fight him?

00:42:19.000 When I was down in Kuwait and I was waiting for... I spoke to General Toguba in the conference room down in Kuwait and he had six other men in the room with him.

00:42:30.000 Excuse me.

00:42:32.000 And when he was asking me questions and he was insisting And I was holding my ground.

00:42:37.000 I said, no, I was not in charge.

00:42:39.000 No, I did not know this was going on.

00:42:41.000 No, these soldiers are not derelict in the performance of their duties.

00:42:45.000 I explained every single question that he presented to me.

00:42:49.000 And when I saw the results of his investigation or from that interview, and he had the nerve to say that I was emotional.

00:42:58.000 Well, I wasn't the one with tears coming out of my eyes at the end of the interview.

00:43:02.000 It was him and his six comrades, because they knew what they were doing was wrong, and they knew that they were going to be called to accuse me for things that clearly I was not responsible for.

00:43:14.000 Well, that's encouraging, though, that they were crying, because that means they've still got souls at least.

00:43:20.000 Well, one would hope.

00:43:23.000 But I didn't see any evidence.

00:43:24.000 They were feeling pretty guilty trying to railroad you.

00:43:27.000 They knew that this was a compartmentalized operation, and that's now public folks.

00:43:33.000 Absolutely, and not only that, but General Toguba was not instructed to investigate the photographs from cell block 180.

00:43:39.000 But even his report admits raping, acid, all of this.

00:43:44.000 Yes, but he still held the MPs from the 800th MP Brigade responsible.

00:43:50.000 Because he said his instructions were limited to the 800th MP Brigade.

00:43:56.000 So he had to turn over the investigation for a subsequent investigation by General Fay, who looked into the military intelligence.

00:44:05.000 Did you tell him, I'm going to fight this propaganda?

00:44:09.000 I did.

00:44:09.000 I told General McKiernan when he made the decision that I should not be reprimanded, that I should not be relieved.

00:44:15.000 And he allowed me to go back to the United States, and that was in April of 2004.

00:44:21.000 I told him that we needed, when I got back to the States, it was my intent to at least have an after-action review and make sure none of this ever happened again.

00:44:30.000 And he said to me as I was leaving his office, there's a great future for Janis Karpinski in the Army Reserves.

00:44:38.000 He was the commander in the theater.

00:44:40.000 By the time I got back to the United States and the pictures were released, The Chief of the Army Reserves is now using the Taguba Report as the sacred document and is suspending me and ultimately relieving me from command.

00:44:53.000 And he has never spoken a word to me since I've been back in the United States.

00:44:59.000 Now let's talk about wargaming.

00:45:01.000 Folks, we're talking to a lady of such incredible courage. 0.82

00:45:03.000 You can hear the genuineness, but I don't go off of that.

00:45:06.000 I don't, you know, just go off of my discernment.

00:45:09.000 I have researched this.

00:45:10.000 We've done 50 shows on this.

00:45:13.000 It's the same thing at Camp X-Ray.

00:45:16.000 They sequester, they cloister.

00:45:18.000 The regular Army, the regular Marines are not even allowed into these areas.

00:45:22.000 Then they've got the nerve to try to blame people that had no connection to it and that didn't go along with it.

00:45:28.000 So that really makes me mad.

00:45:30.000 But let's talk about war games.

00:45:31.000 We know they say Iraq is a laboratory. 0.83

00:45:33.000 We know they say that these prisons are laboratories, that Afghanistan is. 1.00

00:45:37.000 And they send these cadres around making larger cadres.

00:45:40.000 I think it's pretty clear that we are seeing the cold-blooded formation of a torture corps, and that these cadres are being expanded.

00:45:51.000 Is that frightening to you?

00:45:53.000 Does that concern you?

00:45:54.000 Or do you agree with my statement that they're forming a large torture corps?

00:45:59.000 I don't know if they'll be so bold as to call it that, but yes, I agree with you and it makes me shudder when I think about it because they took some contract interrogators to Iraq.

00:46:11.000 They took some contract interrogators and put them at Abu Ghraib, testing to see what the response of the prisoners would be, testing more importantly to see what the response of soldiers would be to those interrogators taking over a military function.

00:46:25.000 So now we know that that's an encroachment We know the quality of some of the contractors that were down at the Coalition Provisional Authority.

00:46:32.000 Some of them had been fired from previous assignments, specifically at prisons, and they were fired for allegations of abuse of prisoners.

00:46:42.000 In one case, it caused the death of a prisoner.

00:46:44.000 So there's this encroachment. 1.00

00:46:48.000 They're actually scouring the planet for scum! 0.97

00:46:51.000 Yes, for people who have this kind of mindset, who can live with themselves while they're going forth in this global war on terrorism and trying to make a difference. 0.96

00:47:01.000 But, you know, it's important to understand that even the McCain bill that was passed by overwhelming victory, 90 to 9, it's limited to the military.

00:47:15.000 For people who are subject to the UCFJ.

00:47:17.000 We need a law on contractors on everybody! 1.00

00:47:20.000 Absolutely!

00:47:21.000 Absolutely!

00:47:21.000 Well, let me ask you a question.

00:47:22.000 If somebody kidnaps a woman and goes and rapes her, I mean, is his defense gonna be, hey, I was just blowing off steam like Rush Limbaugh said, and torture's no big deal?

00:47:31.000 I thought she was a terrorist. 1.00

00:47:33.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 I was trying to get information from her.

00:47:35.000 I mean, let's think about this, folks. 0.99

00:47:36.000 Since when is beating people to death and raping someone's wife in front of them, because their papers weren't in order at a checkpoint, because the fat slob just wants to rape somebody, since when is that what Americans do? 0.99

00:47:47.000 Since never. 0.99

00:47:49.000 We don't do those kind of things.

00:47:50.000 We're better than this.

00:47:53.000 General, what would you like to see happen?

00:47:55.000 I mean, obviously, I think Gonzales But any general who we have paper trails on, knowingly part of this, I think they all need to go to prison.

00:48:03.000 Well, I'll tell you something.

00:48:06.000 The Inspector General, who was not the Inspector General for most of the investigation, the one who made the decision to clear General Sanchez, General Wojciechowski, General Fass, Colonel Warren, Colonel Pappas, and General Miller.

00:48:20.000 Uh, you know, was only there at the, at the direction of Secretary Rumsfeld and that was the first thing, the first action he took was to release those findings.

00:48:28.000 Um, it says specifically in the IG report that actions I took or failed to take in no way contributed to the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

00:48:36.000 But most people don't have access to the Inspector General's report, or don't take the time to go look for it.

00:48:41.000 They really have besmirched your name.

00:48:43.000 Yes, they have.

00:48:44.000 And then, when they do a separate investigation on Guantanamo Bay, the recommendation is that they reprimand General Miller for letting interrogations get out of control, even though he was directed to do those things.

00:48:57.000 And his boss said, no, I'm not going to reprimand him.

00:49:01.000 And his boss just happened to be the former military aide to Secretary Rumsfeld.

00:49:07.000 So they're all proving that their hands are dirty.

00:49:10.000 I want people to think about this.

00:49:11.000 One is covering up the other for the other for the other.

00:49:15.000 I want people to think about the fact that our current Attorney General, the supposed guy enforcing all these laws, He's writing memos saying Bush is above the law and the law flows from him, saying he's an emperor.

00:49:26.000 I mean, that's the actual memo.

00:49:28.000 Saying torture's good.

00:49:29.000 I want people to realize that General Shoemaker is the guy who sent Delta Force in at Waco.

00:49:36.000 I want people to know that they are now putting in a constellation, a gaggle, of people that are willing to do this.

00:49:44.000 I tell you, General, this is really scary.

00:49:47.000 Well, this scares me, too, and I agree with you because They have rewritten the dictionary.

00:49:54.000 There's a prisoner of war, and then there's an Iraqi detainee, or a prisoner, an Iraqi criminal, and then there's this category of security detainees that seem to be apart from any of the Geneva Conventions and not subject to the rules that military personnel have followed for years.

00:50:11.000 Now you bring into that equation contractors.

00:50:14.000 Who are not subject to the UCMJ or appear to be above the rules.

00:50:19.000 So we haven't gotten it right yet, although the bill unfortunately moves in the right direction.

00:50:25.000 And now, well at least it forced Bush to go public and say he's for torture.

00:50:29.000 I mean it really put the spotlight on these guys, but I just can't believe we're even having to sit here and debate this and talk about this, but they are being exposed.

00:50:38.000 Our final segment with the General I might take a call or two, but we're also going to plug your books, so get your pens and paper ready for that.

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00:54:05.000 the third hour here in about five minutes and about eight after we're gonna have Scott Ritter the UN weapons inspector the brave marine that blew the whistle on the lies day one before this whole nightmare started and boy has he been proven to be correct I don't want to hear from people that well you know something this big it would come out we would know all

00:54:29.000 On every front, from the financial war profiteering, to the attack on the Bill of Rights, to protecting terrorist groups, to, you know, all of this, that this current cabal is engaged in, it all has come out.

00:54:45.000 People do blow the whistle.

00:54:47.000 People do tell the truth.

00:54:48.000 But a lot of the news media owned by the very financial interests that stand to gain from this try to spin it.

00:54:54.000 That's why the alternative media is exploding in size because people aren't buying it anymore.

00:54:59.000 The General has graciously decided to stay with us over five minutes to the next hour so we can get to Tony and Larry and a few others and we're about to go to your calls.

00:55:08.000 But the new book by General Janice Larpinski is One Woman's Army.

00:55:16.000 One Woman's Arming. 1.00

00:55:18.000 And General, tell us a little bit about the book and tell us about the publisher and some of the websites.

00:55:25.000 The book is really about my, from when I grew up wanting to be in the military and then my military career and what led me to promotion to Brigadier General and then my assignment as the commander of the 800th MP Brigade.

00:55:39.000 I felt like I really needed to reestablish my credibility Because it was widely destroyed by the spin from linking my name to those, exclusively my name, to those photographs and my leadership failures.

00:55:55.000 It was important.

00:55:57.000 It was an important story to tell.

00:55:59.000 I wanted women especially, but people around the world to understand that there are conscientious people in the military and we serve for a variety of reasons.

00:56:10.000 Abu Ghraib and Iraq was a situation that was clearly out of control.

00:56:14.000 And certainly not, we weren't able to rein it in on my watch.

00:56:20.000 And this is of course published by Miramax Books.

00:56:24.000 And for those that also, General, kind of out of left field here, have you ever heard of P2OG?

00:56:29.000 No.

00:56:32.000 Well, that's a secret Pentagon paper and Pentagon operation group with funding of upwards of six billion dollars per year.

00:56:41.000 And it was formed on the eve of the Gulf War by Donald Rumsfeld.

00:56:44.000 Just type P-2-O-G into Google. 0.64

00:56:46.000 Most people in the military don't feel bad.

00:56:48.000 I've never even heard of it because it's another compartmentalized group.

00:56:51.000 Where Rumsfeld said, stimulate terrorist attacks.

00:56:54.000 have breakdown and that actually his goal was to, we have an Israeli document from 83 saying this too, is to have Iraq in turmoil, in civil war, never being a strong area and then using it as a launch base to then attack Syria and Iran.

00:57:09.000 So in a way they actually want to fail so we have an excuse to stay there longer and build those permanent bases.

00:57:15.000 Would you like to comment on that?

00:57:16.000 I would because from July of 2003 when we arrived in Iraq It really did seem like we would only be there for a couple more months.

00:57:25.000 Things to the north and the south of Baghdad seemed to be generally peaceful and returning to life as we knew it and certainly back under Iraqi control. 0.69

00:57:35.000 But Baghdad and the surrounding vicinity, including the Sunni Triangle, was very resistant and somehow they capitalized on that. 1.00

00:57:44.000 Instead of exploiting the peace, they capitalized on the insurgent activity and made the situation completely worse.

00:57:51.000 And it grew increasingly worse over the next months.

00:57:56.000 After they captured Uday, or killed Uday and Kuse in that operation in Seoul, the insurgents were more active than ever and they were becoming Uh, more accurate than ever before. 0.95

00:58:07.000 Well, also, I mean, the military's not stupid.

00:58:09.000 I've talked to so many, you know, experts who were in Vietnam fighting insurgencies.

00:58:13.000 If one person shoots at you from a little village, you don't arrest every man down to the age of 11.

00:58:18.000 You don't bulldoze all their date palms.

00:58:21.000 I mean, you just made enemies.

00:58:23.000 But they did this over and over again.

00:58:25.000 He went over again and they took the women as hostages so they could get the men to come in, to turn themselves in.

00:58:33.000 I mean, everything you could think of that would insult an Arab mindset and an Arab family.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:39.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.

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00:59:23.000 Hey, but Bob, Others, your calls are coming up.

00:59:26.000 We've got Texamars joining us.

00:59:27.000 We have Barbara Lee Fisher cutting up the Vaccine Awareness Network.

00:59:31.000 Very serious laws.

00:59:34.000 Very close to passing for total vaccine maker liability protection and forced inoculation and federalization of your local towns and cities for forced inoculation.

00:59:45.000 We'll be talking about Halloween here in a few minutes.

00:59:45.000 That's coming up.

00:59:48.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Abe in Florida.

00:59:50.000 Abe, you're on the air.

00:59:51.000 Hey, Mr. Jones.

00:59:52.000 I'm in full support of your work.

00:59:54.000 Thank you.

00:59:56.000 I just wanted to touch on a few points.

00:59:59.000 The last week, I was flipping through television and just seeing what was on.

01:00:05.000 MTV, the wasteland that it is, there's a show called Punk whereby they stimulate an environment to try to create a stimulus from, you know, popular celebrities.

01:00:15.000 And the show host, Ashton Kutcher, he just, you know, blatantly put it out there, you know, and I'm sure some of your viewers might have seen it, but he just blatantly put, like, ID cards, you know, we're in the future, you know, where's my card where we're in the future, you know, where's my card where I could just, you know, immediately go to the bank or, you know, just get money out.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, it's all very overt.

01:00:42.000 Oh, we're all going to have chips.

01:00:44.000 Oh, we're all going to have cards.

01:00:45.000 Oh, it's good.

01:00:46.000 And it doesn't matter if 90 plus percent of us are against it in major polls.

01:00:50.000 They'll keep repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating.

01:00:54.000 Well that's just how you domesticate a wild horse.

01:00:57.000 You just keep getting in the pen with it over and over and over again until it just gets used to you and accustomed to you.

01:01:03.000 We have to consciously realize how they're manipulating us and be insulted by it and resist it.

01:01:10.000 Right, right.

01:01:12.000 But do you think, at this point, that we could just reach the mass of Americans?

01:01:16.000 Because, I mean, there's just... I'm a college student myself, and when I talk to, you know, fellow college students, they're just... they're completely oblivious to the fact that, you know, life isn't just what it teaches you in school, and in the new world, they just have no comprehension of A lot of that is because we've been trained to, number one, be soft, and to be lazy, and to be self-centered, and to only feed our animal instincts.

01:01:41.000 But they're not going to be satisfied.

01:01:43.000 That's never satisfying.

01:01:44.000 They're going to want the higher levels of understanding.

01:01:49.000 And they're going to be abused by this system.

01:01:51.000 So plant the seeds and know that they will sprout.

01:01:55.000 And it's never been a majority that change things, sir.

01:01:58.000 We already have well more than what our founding fathers had at 5%.

01:02:03.000 Oh, okay, okay.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, I was also watching The Simpsons last night, and when you spoke about how they're trying to reach you on television, it was just so weird when you spoke about it, and then I thought to myself, they showed guns being destroyed, homework destroyed, you know, he asked them cops, and they tried to, you know, just play it down because it's a cartoon.

01:02:26.000 They showed guns being destroyed, and then a nuclear bomb going off, And then right after that, I was like, oh my gosh, you know, that's just, that's crazy how they just, you know, blatantly put that, well not blatantly, but indirectly put it in the cartoon.

01:02:41.000 It's called operant conditioning.

01:02:44.000 Yeah, yeah, and David, I know you don't, I completely agree with some of this stuff, and it is truly bizarre.

01:02:50.000 But the secret of the matrix, you said that these people are targeting the unconscious part of the brain.

01:02:55.000 Well that's, sir, that's Edward Bernays, that's mainstream.

01:02:58.000 Thanks for the call.

01:02:59.000 See what David does, I think David's a nice guy, is he talks about all this real stuff, then he adds things to it that can't be proven, and hence, then people think all the proven stuff may not be true.

01:03:10.000 When you take a mid-level advertising class at a good university, they will, this is openly taught, Okay, the conscious mind is up here in the cerebral cortex, but the subconscious brain catalogues and is hooked into the instincts and everything.

01:03:26.000 And that's what's being hit.

01:03:30.000 That's why it's good to not watch a lot of TV or be very selective about it.

01:03:35.000 I mean, even if I try to watch a show about dolphins, at the end it's give up all your property, world government's good, the animals are dying.

01:03:42.000 Everything has the propaganda in it.

01:03:44.000 And there's subliminals, too.

01:03:46.000 I mean, big time.

01:03:47.000 By the way, subliminals are public. 0.94

01:03:49.000 That's not a... The industry will admit that if you just read about it.

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01:07:04.000 All right, we have Texas Mars on the line with us.

01:07:18.000 We'll be going to my good friend, the professor, here in just a moment to give you the history of Halloween.

01:07:24.000 But just to recap, Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, who is supposedly a socialist, but he took land taken by neocon governments in the past and gave it back to the indigenous population with the deeds.

01:07:42.000 So our government, the Supreme Court, is ruling that we don't own private property and if some private robber baron wants it, they can come and take it and not even pay you fair market value.

01:07:54.000 That's literally like feudal lords 800 years ago in ancient England in the days of Longshanks just saying, I want your property, I want your wife, I want your daughter, I'm taking your sons as slaves to serve in my military. 0.83

01:08:10.000 I mean, that's slavery, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

01:08:13.000 We forget that it isn't just black Americans who were slaves. 0.55

01:08:15.000 A lot of white people came here as indentured servants, and you never got out of your seven years of indentured servitude because they'd get you into debt and you'd be a sharecropper. 0.79

01:08:26.000 But that's a side issue with Hugo Chavez.

01:08:32.000 The point is, he's getting off the IMF and World Bank, he's getting out of the system, he's got his own oil, and now he's saying that our government is satanic, that this is a way to terrorize the public, that dressing up like demons is bad, that it's not our way, that it's not Christian.

01:08:48.000 And I have a lady that cleans our house. 1.00

01:08:51.000 Because I'm too busy.

01:08:51.000 My wife's too busy working all the time to do it.

01:08:53.000 She's got her green card, folks.

01:08:56.000 Don't worry.

01:08:56.000 I don't hire illegals.

01:08:57.000 Really sweet, nice lady. 1.00

01:09:00.000 And she's from Brazil.

01:09:05.000 And I was talking to her last week and I said, Oh, Halloween's coming up.

01:09:09.000 And she said, Oh no, I don't.

01:09:10.000 We don't celebrate that.

01:09:11.000 That is Diablo.

01:09:12.000 And I said, Oh really?

01:09:14.000 She goes, Yes, it's a festival of the devil.

01:09:15.000 We don't worship the devil.

01:09:17.000 And I said, oh, I don't worship the devil either.

01:09:19.000 We don't celebrate that.

01:09:20.000 So, there's a lot of things down in Latin America.

01:09:23.000 Now, in Mexico they do, folks.

01:09:24.000 And they got the Day of the Dead and all that.

01:09:27.000 You got that whole Aztec influence.

01:09:29.000 But not in South America, folks.

01:09:30.000 Not in Central America.

01:09:33.000 And BBC admits, quote, Halloween, a pagan festival characterized by mischief making, is marked every year on October 31st of October.

01:09:42.000 And it is the year Halloween has the most murders and abductions and most violence of any day in the year.

01:09:51.000 And what it's number three for DWI's, what Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving's number one and number two is Number two is New Year's, but the point is, hundreds of homes burned down in Detroit on Devil's Night.

01:10:08.000 Why would you let your children be part of this? 0.99

01:10:10.000 Even if you don't believe in God, which I think is foolish, you should know, folks, having your child dress up in an outfit and go demand something from someone, that's what the Druid priests would come and demand, your horse, demand your oxen, demand your cat, demand your child, to burn them, to kill them, to slit their throats, to throw them in a peat bog. 0.99

01:10:31.000 Were we able to get Tex on a better phone there, guys? 0.98

01:10:35.000 Okay, good.

01:10:36.000 I was waiting for the cue on that.

01:10:38.000 So honored to have Tex Mars.

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01:10:49.000 Best-selling author, Air Force officer.

01:10:52.000 He married my wife and I. Good friend of mine.

01:10:54.000 Always good to have him back up.

01:10:56.000 And Tex, thank you for coming on with us today.

01:10:58.000 Hey Alex, great to be with you.

01:11:01.000 Halloween, Tex, why should we not celebrate Halloween?

01:11:07.000 Why should we keep our children out of Samhain or Samhain?

01:11:11.000 Well, you mentioned Samhain or Samhain as many call it.

01:11:19.000 First of all, Alex, we're not against at all kids having a good time or parents having a good time or even though it's probably not the Most healthy, eating a lot of sweets at a given time of year.

01:11:36.000 I think I've eaten too many sweets and it's put a lot of pounds on me over the years.

01:11:40.000 But here is the absolute truth of Halloween.

01:11:44.000 It has always been a satanic day.

01:11:48.000 It is a witchcraft day. 0.99

01:11:50.000 You know, in the witchcraft calendar, there are eight sabbats. 0.96

01:11:56.000 The second Most powerful day of witchcraft for all witches and you can talk to the head of the Church of Wicca or the Salem witchcraft sect and all of those but the second most important day is this day Halloween and it comes of course from pagan sources. 0.91

01:12:17.000 It really was not practiced in the United States until 1845 when many people from Ireland and Scotland came over after the The horrible potato famine.

01:12:29.000 So many immigrants came to the United States from Ireland.

01:12:32.000 Unfortunately, they brought with them the worship of the Druids. 0.99

01:12:35.000 At least a certain number did.

01:12:37.000 And it caught on and now has become a major holiday in the United States.

01:12:43.000 But it is the worship of the dead.

01:12:45.000 It is necromancy.

01:12:47.000 It is affiliation with spirits.

01:12:49.000 Now, I know that most parents out there are probably saying, oh, this is crazy.

01:12:53.000 It's just a fun day.

01:12:56.000 But we're not talking about dressing up just in costumes as historical figures or such.

01:13:03.000 We're talking about devils.

01:13:05.000 We're talking about witchcraft.

01:13:07.000 We're talking about Dracula, vampirism, and all of these things which, Alex, are based on reality.

01:13:16.000 They are not based on myth.

01:13:17.000 They are not based on cartoons.

01:13:20.000 They're based on real things.

01:13:22.000 Well, Tex, as you know, every couple weeks I see where some teenagers kidnap an old woman and cut her head off and drink her blood. 0.63

01:13:29.000 I mean, it's exploding.

01:13:31.000 Murders are exploding.

01:13:33.000 These vampiric murders.

01:13:35.000 Of course, they're not physical, live forever vampires, but that's where the legends come from are these murdering death cults.

01:13:42.000 Well, Jeffrey Dahmer, that's what he did.

01:13:44.000 He started out in the occult. 0.74

01:13:46.000 He began to kill animals, you know, dogs and cats.

01:13:49.000 He graduated up to human beings. 0.75

01:13:51.000 He was an occultist. 0.73

01:13:52.000 He was a Satan worshipper. 0.90

01:13:54.000 And then he began to be a cannibal, even.

01:13:57.000 And, in fact, you know, Julius Caesar saw what we would call Halloween being celebrated when he conquered The Gallic lands and went over into Scotland.

01:14:09.000 He saw the Stonehenge type of celebrations.

01:14:13.000 He said himself that the Druids practiced not only witchcraft, this is in the writings of Julius Caesar.

01:14:19.000 No, I actually own a volume of his letters back to Rome and he goes, these people are just totally evil.

01:14:25.000 This is a worshipper of Mars and a worshipper of Zeus and a worshipper of all these pagan gods and he's calling it evil. 0.88

01:14:35.000 That's right.

01:14:36.000 Well, at least they didn't... One of the things he noted was that they would sacrifice victims to their so-called gods, and then their high priest, the Druid priest, would eat the flesh of their victims.

01:14:49.000 So this was just abhorrent to Julius Caesar and to the Romans.

01:14:54.000 But I believe this happens now.

01:14:55.000 You know, I had a call some years ago from a policeman in San Antonio And he wanted to find out more about Halloween and what witchcraft folks do and Satanists.

01:15:08.000 And he told me that throughout the city of San Antonio, in the environs, in the wooded areas, in the hill country, they find Satanic altars after Halloween and they actually find the bones and charred bodies of animals And so this is, you know, something that they wanted to try to put an end to.

01:15:28.000 Tex, I personally found that hiking around in the hill country around Austin, because I'll go on 10-15 mile hikes, especially back in the day when I had time, and you will run into satanic alters.

01:15:40.000 You do indeed.

01:15:41.000 I have a picture coming up in one of my newsletters, Alex, of Liz Carpenter.

01:15:47.000 Now remember, she was the personal secretary to Lady Burt Johnson.

01:15:52.000 She's big in Democratic Party politics, and when Hillary Clinton came to town, you know, they met. 0.99

01:15:58.000 Actually, a picture of her howling at the moon.

01:16:03.000 It said that she and other feminists, on the night of the full moon, go out and howl at the moon. 1.00

01:16:09.000 This is in witchcraft called Drawing Down the Moon.

01:16:13.000 Here we have probably the most famous woman in Texas politics, Liz Carpenter, howling at the moon out in the hill country. 1.00

01:16:22.000 Along with her, you know, liberal, democratic, feminist friends. 0.99

01:16:26.000 And I interrupted you.

01:16:27.000 Back to the police officer.

01:16:28.000 He was calling up about all these, all these altars everywhere?

01:16:33.000 Yeah, and he told me at that time, but this was several years back, that a number of the Humane Society shelters and such in the central Texas area, especially in San Antonio, at that time, they put a prohibition against the adopting of cats, especially black cats.

01:16:52.000 And this is across America.

01:16:54.000 The ASPCA and Humane Society actually know that many witchcraft sects will go and adopt animals, especially black cats, and then sacrifice them.

01:17:06.000 So this is not just fun and games.

01:17:09.000 These people take it seriously.

01:17:11.000 Let me say one other thing, Alex, for people that are scratching their heads right now.

01:17:15.000 You have exposed the Bohemian Grove.

01:17:19.000 And what is the Bohemian Grove?

01:17:21.000 But a meeting in the forest.

01:17:22.000 This is the same thing the Druid priest and the others did.

01:17:25.000 And they worshipped the great fire god and they made human sacrifice or at least had an effigy that appeared.

01:17:32.000 So we're talking about the top politicians in America, Europe and the world that meet annually.

01:17:40.000 Deep in a grove in California, you have outed this.

01:17:43.000 You were the first one to do so.

01:17:45.000 This is nothing more than satanic.

01:17:47.000 Halloween is a reflection of what you found at the Bohemian Grove.

01:17:53.000 Well, Tex, I mean, look at how the violence and the murder explodes on this night.

01:17:58.000 Well, yeah, they said that already, even here in Austin, Texas, I think 250 arrests announced last night already.

01:18:05.000 We haven't even had the big celebration Uh, of Halloween.

01:18:09.000 They've already gotten 250 arrests, mostly for alcohol, uh, and so forth.

01:18:14.000 But you judge a tree by its fruits.

01:18:17.000 Well, you do.

01:18:18.000 And, uh, you know, not too long ago, uh, a mother wrote to me, sent me a news clipping.

01:18:26.000 Maybe we can talk more about this on the break.

01:18:28.000 Let's talk about it on the other side.

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01:18:45.000 Uh, yeah, Santa Claus isn't a very friendly fella.

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01:23:03.000 I tell you, with guests like Tex Mars, we always have the best radio off air during the last four minutes talking to Tex.

01:23:09.000 I was mentioning my new film, The Order of Depths, coming out.

01:23:12.000 It's going to be put onto the same video, same DVD as Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove.

01:23:17.000 It'll be available in about two, three weeks.

01:23:19.000 But how the local pagans didn't like me mentioning how the elite was doing rituals.

01:23:25.000 They were just mad about the policies.

01:23:28.000 And how a year after we snuck in, we caught video of them, when Ed Homan went out there, doing their own ritual at the gates of the grove, and one of them called in Amon.

01:23:37.000 They said, Amon.

01:23:39.000 And then I knew it was Egyptian, but Tex just said that it corresponds to the Canaanite Moloch.

01:23:46.000 So Tex, I tell you, it just never ends, does it?

01:23:49.000 Well, it really doesn't.

01:23:50.000 It's very interesting, the connection there.

01:23:53.000 But again, we get back to the Bohemian Grove.

01:23:55.000 There's so much in the Old Testament.

01:23:57.000 God warning about those who went to the groves and worshipped their gods. 0.56

01:24:03.000 You know, talk about these pagans who were demonstrating against your exposures.

01:24:10.000 And they don't like to be exposed because they get good press coverage on Halloween in the mainline media, you see.

01:24:17.000 So they don't like it when an Alex Jones or Tex Morris comes up.

01:24:20.000 I was in Seattle on King TV some years ago.

01:24:24.000 And they had a big town meeting there.

01:24:26.000 And they had all the witches come out to debate me, you know.

01:24:30.000 And I was about the only Christian in the audience.

01:24:33.000 And there I was, it was sort of like an Oprah Winfrey Show, except everybody was hostile against the Christians.

01:24:41.000 But one of the witches got up and she talked about how terrible it was.

01:24:45.000 This was, by the way, during the Halloween period. 0.93

01:24:48.000 She said how terrible the Christians were.

01:24:50.000 They've always persecuted witches.

01:24:52.000 And she said, they accuse us of worshipping Satan, why we don't even believe in the devil and witchcraft.

01:24:58.000 The devil is a Christian invention. 1.00

01:25:01.000 So, the host came to me and stuck the microphone in my face, Alex, and said, what about that?

01:25:06.000 The witches say they don't worship the devil.

01:25:09.000 And I looked right at this witch, and I said, you worship the goddess, do you not? 1.00

01:25:16.000 She said, yes, I worship the lady of the forest.

01:25:19.000 And I said, and you worship the consort, the male, which is Pan, right? 0.86

01:25:25.000 The horned god.

01:25:27.000 She said, uh, yes, but she began to stammer, actually stammer, you know.

01:25:32.000 She said, but Pan, the horned god we worship, that's not Satan.

01:25:37.000 He's the god of the forest.

01:25:39.000 I said, and he has horns.

01:25:41.000 She said, well, yes, but that's not the devil.

01:25:44.000 So I think it's interesting how they try to define their own terms as they would like to do it.

01:25:50.000 You know, I have an interesting fact here, Alex, for your audience.

01:25:53.000 A lot of kids dress up as Dracula, Count Dracula.

01:25:57.000 And, uh, you know, Sesame Street, one of the characters is a count, like Dracula.

01:26:02.000 I noticed even cereal is called Count Chocula, after chocolate.

01:26:07.000 Uh, but people don't realize there literally was a real Dracula.

01:26:13.000 And Bush and Kerry are related to him.

01:26:15.000 Yeah, I have heard that.

01:26:17.000 That's actually been proven.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, MSNBC did the genealogy.

01:26:21.000 Well, this is an interesting thing.

01:26:23.000 Now, there's a book, and I had a copy of it some years ago, and I did research, and it's on a ruler in Eastern Europe named Vlad, V-L-A-D, the Impaler.

01:26:34.000 Yeah, Vlad the Dragon, the Impaler.

01:26:36.000 Yeah, and he killed over 100,000 people.

01:26:39.000 He was ruler of a small nation, and he tortured them.

01:26:43.000 He would impale their bodies on spears, and he literally would drink blood.

01:26:49.000 Over 100,000. 0.98

01:26:51.000 He locked many of them into a palace and burned them alive.

01:26:56.000 That's how he got rid of the beggars and the homeless. 0.99

01:26:58.000 He just locked them up and burned them alive. 0.99

01:27:01.000 But this was a real character.

01:27:04.000 So when you play around with Dracula, you're really imitating a real character.

01:27:11.000 Well, I see people dressed up like Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:27:13.000 Or Ted Bundy.

01:27:14.000 It's like it's real funny.

01:27:16.000 Oh yeah, exactly.

01:27:17.000 Well, you know, I think it was Jason, or no, Freddy, Freddy Krueger, from one of the movies, he actually said he studied the life of Ted Bundy and used that as an inspiration for how he, his mannerisms and such, and how he acted.

01:27:33.000 You know, back to Vlad, the Impaler, it's interesting that Lenin, you know, was not the monster of the Red Terror, Who murdered so many Christians and others in Soviet Russia.

01:27:48.000 His first name was Vladimir.

01:27:50.000 He named himself.

01:27:51.000 That was not his real name.

01:27:53.000 He was born with another name.

01:27:54.000 But he named himself Vladimir.

01:27:57.000 After Vlad.

01:27:59.000 And it may even be of interest to people that Putin, the current, you know, he was with the KGB and now he's the new dictator, basically, of Russia.

01:28:09.000 And his name is Vladimir.

01:28:12.000 Well, we know that they were called the Red Chair of the Red Star, and it's actually talked about, this is well documented, where they're killing all these people, and he goes, I need more, more blood!

01:28:22.000 More blood, he literally called out for that.

01:28:24.000 And May 1 is the highest holy day in witchcraft, and that was the day they celebrated the coming of communism. 0.93

01:28:32.000 May 1, May Day.

01:28:33.000 May Day, how cute!

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01:28:37.000 We'll be right back with Tex Mars, more about Halloween, more about his new book, too.

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01:32:07.000 Your calls are coming up.

01:32:09.000 toll-free number to join us 1-800-2599-231 tax before we go any further give us some of your websites and tell us about your of amazingly powerful newsletter and also your new book codex magica Well Alex, I'll tell you, that book, wow, it's going to be a very controversial book.

01:32:34.000 It's going to be out November 1st and I understand you're going to be offering it on your program on Infowars.com, your website.

01:32:41.000 And I'll tell you, people will have never seen a book like this.

01:32:45.000 It's over 600 pages.

01:32:47.000 It seems to be about two inches thick.

01:32:50.000 It's really an encyclopedia.

01:32:52.000 And it's the first book to ever expose, actually has over 1,000 pictures, photographs, illustrations.

01:33:01.000 And it actually shows what I call the criminals of the Illuminati.

01:33:06.000 Some of the top politicians, entertainers, bankers, financiers, Uh, secret society leaders in the world, as they do their secret hand signals, handshakes, even use their bodies, mysterious secret symbols, hidden codes, and all of this you're going to see in the book, and this is a book basically that I've been researching for well over a decade.

01:33:30.000 And it's taken me almost five years to put it all together.

01:33:34.000 Codex Magicka.

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01:33:37.000 This is your creme de la creme.

01:33:39.000 This is your masterwork.

01:33:42.000 This thing just proves without a shadow of a doubt, folks, page after page, document after document, It's overwhelming, and I mean, I remember years ago you were working on this book text.

01:33:55.000 I mean, normally you'd write a book in a year, or even faster, and these were thick, well-researched, powerful books.

01:34:01.000 I mean, the first book I ever heard the word RFID was your book, Project Lucid, back in 1996.

01:34:09.000 I mean, no one had ever heard of it, and you have the documents, how it would be used to buy and sell, and how it would be used to track us, You know, now Katharine Aulberg is getting kudos for writing it, and good for her, but text is a real trailblazer.

01:34:23.000 Texts describe why you took so long to write this, and why it ended up being so long.

01:34:29.000 I mean, I'm the same way, but not as scholarly as you are.

01:34:31.000 I mean, you just want to keep adding more and more documentation because there's so much.

01:34:35.000 Why leave any of it out?

01:34:37.000 Well, you know, I had to leave some of it out, but it's still in a large format.

01:34:41.000 It's sort of like a coffee table type book.

01:34:45.000 624 pages in all.

01:34:46.000 Has a lot of footnotes and references, but mostly the pictures.

01:34:49.000 And then I explain.

01:34:51.000 And by the way, to make sure there's no argument, I go back and I actually have the pages out of some of the secret manuals and textbooks of the Illuminati secret societies.

01:35:04.000 And the Masonic handbooks and stuff.

01:35:06.000 So I show how they teach their initiates.

01:35:10.000 For example, in Freemasonry, the first to the thirty-third degrees.

01:35:13.000 How they use their different hand signals and all, and how they describe them.

01:35:16.000 Then I actually show U.S.

01:35:18.000 Senators, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Federal Reserve Chairman and so forth, using the same symbols and how they do it, how they move their body, even the words they use.

01:35:30.000 And listen to this, Alex.

01:35:32.000 You're going to see this on the cover of Time, Newsweek, all of the CBS, ABC, NBC sitcoms.

01:35:41.000 There's even entertainers that have been brought into this and taught how to use their bodies.

01:35:47.000 The sitcoms like Seinfeld, you'll see Jewish Kabbalistic hand signs used.

01:35:53.000 The sign of Satan, El Diablo.

01:35:56.000 And I will explain the difference between that in the book and just what the deaf do, the I love you of the deaf.

01:36:03.000 There is a significant difference and people will see that.

01:36:06.000 But all of those things are exposed, I believe, for the first time ever.

01:36:10.000 Uh, in this book, why did it take so long?

01:36:12.000 You know, I think what is interesting, and I didn't even think about it until this moment, here you and I are talking about Halloween.

01:36:18.000 It is the second most significant day in the Witchcraft calendar, Alex. 0.93

01:36:23.000 I didn't realize my book is being released basically on Halloween day.

01:36:28.000 Maybe God wants us to expose the occult and illuminate the occult.

01:36:33.000 It was going to be out about a month ago, but it got held up.

01:36:36.000 Yeah, it got held up by the printer.

01:36:39.000 So now you're firing this major, scholarly, but also very interesting work at the enemy on their day.

01:36:47.000 Of course, this is the eve of the day, and then tomorrow is when the book actually comes out.

01:36:51.000 We put in our order now, folks, for a whole bunch of these.

01:36:55.000 So I hope you'll go to InfoWars.com In order, Codex Magicka, 600 plus pages, over a thousand pictures, from InfoWars.com, or get it from Tex Mars.

01:37:07.000 Tex, give us the phone number at your office, so folks can call and get the book, or call and get your free newsletter.

01:37:15.000 Well, I want to mention again, because a lot of people know about InfoWars.com, your website, it'll be available there, or they can go to our website, PowerOfProphecy.com, And, by the way, they can simply get our free newsletter.

01:37:29.000 We'll be glad to give them this issue coming up which talks about Codex Magicka.

01:37:34.000 They'll see some of the actual hand signs.

01:37:36.000 We won't even charge them for that.

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01:37:55.000 We'll just take your name and address down and we'll send it right in the mail to you.

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01:38:00.000 And folks, it's a really nice newsletter with a lot of key information.

01:38:05.000 In fact, when I did a newsletter for a while, I modeled it off of Texas.

01:38:08.000 In fact, copied it, really.

01:38:09.000 And then even used the same printer here in Austin because it's so nice.

01:38:13.000 Tex, give that number out again twice, please.

01:38:16.000 Well, you're very kind.

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01:38:28.000 We're going to be getting it in this week, and we'll mail it right out.

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01:38:36.000 I believe people will wake up.

01:38:38.000 This will awaken thousands of people, because we're being conditioned We're being propagandized!

01:38:45.000 I mean, Codex Magic doesn't wake up more than that because I have really, I told you earlier, I really wanted to make a documentary where I went through and showed it all, but there's so much to have it in this coffee table style book, such an easy read, so, you know, well illustrated, to have all of their own photos, their own admissions.

01:39:02.000 This is how the elite communicates with each other.

01:39:06.000 This is, I mean, really, these occult groups, folks, are like the original secret societies.

01:39:11.000 They're really just ...intelligence agencies with these occult trappings and these occult beliefs involved so now people are going to have really the blueprint to understand a whole new language.

01:39:25.000 It's like learning German or learning French or learning Spanish as in a text and you have kind of decoded the Rosetta Stone.

01:39:34.000 Well, I believe that I have.

01:39:37.000 And I've used, interestingly enough, their own textbooks.

01:39:40.000 I've had to go all the way back to 1860 Even the 1700s to find some of these textbooks.

01:39:47.000 It's interesting how a lot of high level Freemasons have died over the years and their widows have sent me their libraries and their books.

01:39:56.000 So this is how I came upon much of the material, literally from widows who were horrified When they went into their dead husbands libraries and such and found the textbooks and such.

01:40:09.000 And by the way you mentioned Amun.

01:40:12.000 One of the ladies, the widows actually sent me a book and showed where her husband had been worshipping the god Amun.

01:40:18.000 Believing that he would gain prosperity.

01:40:20.000 And you mentioned that the pagans and the witches were demonstrating against you and worshipping the God of Amun. 0.92

01:40:27.000 You haven't seen the video yet!

01:40:29.000 That's what the ritual is to give them prosperity and to take it away from George Bush.

01:40:35.000 At the end of the ritual they say, give us prosperity and then they turn towards them and say, take it away from them.

01:40:42.000 Take it away from them.

01:40:44.000 You know, it's interesting now.

01:40:45.000 A lot of people say, well, hand signs, Handshakes, secret gestures, the way things are set up in the movies and in magazine scenes. 0.81

01:40:55.000 This is just clown stuff.

01:40:57.000 This is just fun and games. 0.70

01:40:59.000 This is not serious. 0.99

01:41:00.000 But remember, John Wayne Gacy, who killed 28 young boys, this homosexual monster, loved to dress up as a clown. 1.00

01:41:11.000 And he once told a police officer, quote, a clown can get away with murder. 0.97

01:41:17.000 So, you know, it's like they're mocking, they're tormenting the masses. 1.00

01:41:22.000 They believe we're so stupid, so profane... Well, it's like Bohemian Grove. 1.00

01:41:27.000 Other people watch the ritual and they go, oh, it's just a play. 1.00

01:41:29.000 They're just having fun.

01:41:30.000 Folks, world leaders travel from around the world.

01:41:33.000 Helmut Schmidt, in his own autobiography, German Chancellor, said, we do Druid rituals in Germany, but my favorite place to do them is in America.

01:41:42.000 They take it very seriously.

01:41:46.000 He did say that.

01:41:46.000 In fact, it was in his biography, Men and Powers.

01:41:49.000 I recall reading that, Alex.

01:41:51.000 You've got a great memory.

01:41:53.000 But these people believe this.

01:41:55.000 And by the way, when you study the history of the Illuminati, something like Halloween and what happens at Halloween is fun and games, but it's serious for them.

01:42:06.000 You know, we look back and we see things like the guillotine during the French Revolution as hideous and gruesome.

01:42:13.000 It's almost like a Halloween-ish thing.

01:42:15.000 But these were live human beings, thousands, brought to the guillotine with their heads cut off.

01:42:21.000 And why did it happen?

01:42:22.000 Because of the Order of the Illuminati that was founded in 1776.

01:42:27.000 By the way, its official founding date was May 1st.

01:42:31.000 That's the Witches' Sabbat, their great high holy day, called Beltane. 1.00

01:42:37.000 It's the worship of Bel. 0.64

01:42:38.000 And there again, we go back to the Bible.

01:42:41.000 The great fire god, Baal, was worshipped by the ancients.

01:42:46.000 So all of these things, they bring back the ancient mystery religions.

01:42:51.000 And that's why I believe the witches go and howl at the moon.

01:42:56.000 By the way, in a book called Under the Sign of the Scorpion, which we offer at PowerProcess.com, Jerry Lena, who did tremendous research in this book.

01:43:07.000 He's a man from Sweden.

01:43:08.000 And I'm going to send you a copy of his book, Alex, if you don't have it.

01:43:12.000 But he actually documents how Lenin, in his last days, his body was wrecked.

01:43:19.000 He died of syphilis, believe it or not.

01:43:21.000 Vladimir Lenin.

01:43:22.000 But he would have his servants wheel him out to his balcony on the night of the full moon, and he would howl like a wolf.

01:43:32.000 And here is the man who is still worshipped today by Marxists in America, many of the college professors.

01:43:39.000 A howling at the moon.

01:43:42.000 And of course, the witches worship the great moon goddess.

01:43:45.000 And Ozzy Osbourne, oh yeah, bucket the moon.

01:43:48.000 And then George Bush calls him in and goes, ah, blood and hell and death and destruction, we love Ozzy.

01:43:54.000 It's all a big joke.

01:43:55.000 Oh, and skull and bones, mock sacrifice, it's all a joke.

01:43:58.000 But then in the real world, they're bombing innocent countries.

01:44:01.000 They're running over people with bulldozers.

01:44:04.000 They're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines.

01:44:06.000 They're putting poison in the water.

01:44:08.000 They're genetically engineering the food where it's toxic.

01:44:11.000 They're doing all this evil, Tex, and we ask, why, why, why?

01:44:15.000 It's a sacrifice, isn't it?

01:44:17.000 It is.

01:44:18.000 I am convinced.

01:44:19.000 In fact, I did two hours of radio programs on this.

01:44:21.000 Have the audio tapes now.

01:44:24.000 Of what happened at the World Trade Center.

01:44:26.000 It was absolutely a satanic sacrifice there.

01:44:30.000 Those two buildings coming down.

01:44:32.000 Everything is done by these people, Alex.

01:44:34.000 During either the new moon or the full moon.

01:44:37.000 And many times occult astrology.

01:44:40.000 Now that's not the astrology you read about in your newspaper when you want to know what, you know, for fun and games, the horoscope, the sun signs.

01:44:48.000 There is a deep form of occult astrology.

01:44:52.000 And they use this, and they use the witch's eight sabbaths each year.

01:44:56.000 You know, all the way, they have a witch's calendar. 0.84

01:45:00.000 And they frame all of their works around these days because they believe that this brings in, unleashes the powers from the spirit world.

01:45:10.000 So they do.

01:45:11.000 By the way, Robert Mueller, former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations, all of its 32 directorates reported to him Now, there is a Secretary General, but this guy actually runs the U.N.

01:45:23.000 on a day-to-day basis.

01:45:24.000 He recently retired.

01:45:25.000 He's like the city manager.

01:45:27.000 Exactly, like a city manager.

01:45:29.000 He admits in his book, I have a copy of a book by him called First Lady of the World.

01:45:35.000 He says you've got to take a Luciferian initiation or you'll be killed.

01:45:40.000 That's right, and he actually, remember, first lady of the world, the witches call their goddess the first lady.

01:45:48.000 Sort of interesting.

01:45:50.000 Our lady, the first lady.

01:45:52.000 But Mueller says that the Rockefellers donated the money to buy the land on which the United Nations building sits.

01:46:02.000 Okay, so we have the Rockefeller connection of the Illuminati.

01:46:06.000 But then he says the reason that site was chosen there was because in decades past it had been used as a cattle slaughtering place.

01:46:17.000 And he said thousands and thousands of cattle were brought there and slaughtered.

01:46:21.000 He said the blood of these cows ran into the ground and made that a holy and sacred place.

01:46:28.000 The sacrifice of the cows, their blood, makes the United Nations a holy place.

01:46:34.000 Well, Tex, this is what you do as a scholar.

01:46:37.000 You go get books that these world leaders wrote themselves.

01:46:40.000 You put it in a big book, show pictures of them making hand signs, and have all this evidence, and still people are in denial.

01:46:47.000 It's not like he didn't say this, and Schmidt didn't say this, and it isn't like Ronald Reagan, to the exact minute he gave a speech, was according to deep astrology.

01:46:57.000 It's not like the Bushes and Kerry aren't skull and bones, aren't Bohemian Grove.

01:47:01.000 I mean, their whole worlds revolve around this.

01:47:05.000 that They do indeed.

01:47:08.000 You know, you mentioned the Order of Skull and Bones.

01:47:09.000 Here again, do we not have a Halloween celebration?

01:47:13.000 They dress up in costumes.

01:47:14.000 They have bones, literally bones, I mean of human beings, in their tomb.

01:47:22.000 Which is the name of their bill.

01:47:23.000 You know, you've discussed this.

01:47:24.000 We've talked about it together even on the radio.

01:47:27.000 And on your website, there's articles about it.

01:47:31.000 So this was a Halloween celebration, but they take it deadly serious.

01:47:36.000 And I believe it carries on into their life.

01:47:39.000 And the American people, it is so fantastic.

01:47:42.000 You know, many people are so good.

01:47:45.000 And they're gullible.

01:47:46.000 They're sincere.

01:47:48.000 They can't believe this.

01:47:49.000 They can't believe it's possible.

01:47:52.000 That a Bill Clinton or a George W. Bush, and notice we've got Democrats and Republicans there, or a Hillary Clinton or a Laura Bush could be involved in this.

01:48:01.000 Well, it's also very, very scary.

01:48:04.000 Well, it is, because it totally destroys our concept of politics and government.

01:48:14.000 I'll give you one example of this, Alex.

01:48:17.000 I mentioned that Halloween was not celebrated in America until 1845.

01:48:22.000 Here's something for your audience to get some meat onto.

01:48:26.000 It was in 1845, I have it right here, the United States Congress passed the law which set the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November as Election Day.

01:48:38.000 Now we have Election Day coming up this week, right?

01:48:40.000 Yes.

01:48:41.000 The first Tuesday after the first Monday.

01:48:43.000 Why did they do that?

01:48:45.000 Because this was a special day to the Druids and the witches Of which the Illuminati are patterned after their day. 0.99

01:48:55.000 This was known as Slaughter Day.

01:48:57.000 It was the day they slaughtered their cattle.

01:49:00.000 Now they couldn't do it on a Monday because that was the Moon Day. 0.96

01:49:02.000 That was the worship of the Goddess.

01:49:04.000 They had to do it on Tuesday.

01:49:06.000 It was the first Tuesday then, you might say.

01:49:08.000 After the first Monday.

01:49:10.000 After what?

01:49:11.000 After Halloween.

01:49:12.000 Or, so Wayne Day.

01:49:14.000 The day they worshipped the dead.

01:49:17.000 They kill their cows, slaughter their animals for the coming winter season so they can store the food.

01:49:23.000 And the blood flowed on that day.

01:49:26.000 Election Day is Slaughter Day!

01:49:29.000 It's unbelievable.

01:49:30.000 Tex, stay there. 0.91

01:49:31.000 We're going to come back and get a little bit into how they're replacing other Christian holidays with other pagan dates, like Christmas.

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01:52:48.000 Codex Magica, 620-something pages long, over a thousand pictures, secret over a thousand pictures, secret signs, mysterious symbols, and the hidden codes of the Illuminati.

01:53:11.000 And you know, so much stuff about the occult that I've researched, it's baloney.

01:53:16.000 And so many of these books about codes and the Bible and all this, more baloney.

01:53:20.000 This is real.

01:53:21.000 This is the dominant force in our world, our occultists, who think that we're a bunch of cattle, and they openly write about it in their memoirs, and countless widows get into their attics and find all this stuff.

01:53:33.000 Later, we end up getting it.

01:53:35.000 Like Charlotte Isserby, you know, she was high-level Reagan administration. 1.00

01:53:38.000 Her dad was skull and bones, bohemian grove, and had like a deathbed confession and accepted Jesus before he died.

01:53:44.000 She was taking care of him when he had cancer.

01:53:46.000 He had to listen to her every day doing talk radio interviews about what was happening with education and he finally woke up and he said, oh yeah, he cried about being a member and said it was horrible, that's all he'd say.

01:53:58.000 But the point is, is that it's not too late for people to turn back, but most of them have already totally gone over to the other side, so I guess it may be too late.

01:54:06.000 That's open for debate.

01:54:08.000 But this is what's running things.

01:54:09.000 You want to know the language?

01:54:10.000 Believe me, I've studied it a lot.

01:54:12.000 And to be able to see it on the cornerstones of buildings.

01:54:14.000 Know what sect it is.

01:54:16.000 Know what their specialties are.

01:54:18.000 Know what they're doing when they're flashing hand signs on TV.

01:54:21.000 When I'm debating somebody on TV and they're flashing hand signs.

01:54:24.000 All this stuff.

01:54:26.000 I told the story of my great-great-uncle, Uncle Houston.

01:54:29.000 My dad's great-uncle.

01:54:31.000 And he was a mason and he ran, during Prohibition, ran liquor stores.

01:54:36.000 Underground, you know, speakeasies.

01:54:38.000 In Houston, two guys tried to rob him.

01:54:39.000 He killed them.

01:54:41.000 And the point is, is that he went and flashed a Mason in Distress sign at the judge.

01:54:46.000 The judge said, Case is Missed, instantly.

01:54:49.000 And, you know, that can be abused.

01:54:50.000 That is abuse.

01:54:51.000 My Uncle Houston wasn't evil, folks.

01:54:53.000 He was a mid-level Mason.

01:54:55.000 But later in life, became high-level, and he told my daddy, don't join the Masons.

01:55:02.000 Why?

01:55:02.000 He wouldn't exactly tell him.

01:55:04.000 But now we know.

01:55:07.000 And look, it's so important to get Codex Magicka.

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01:55:30.000 Tex, we're about to break and come back and start the next hour.

01:55:33.000 We will go to John and Mike and Larry and Gary and others.

01:55:38.000 For the person that has trouble understanding, you know, why this occult system is out there, and who buys into the propaganda that Christians are a bunch of nuts who just want to persecute, you know, these sweet little pagans, I don't think a lot of people realize that the pagans have also posed as Christians to carry out their sacrifices.

01:55:57.000 Haven't they?

01:55:59.000 Well, of course, they would have to do that.

01:56:02.000 You know, Satan would love nothing better than to pollute the real Christian church. 1.00

01:56:07.000 But I think more and more today, we're becoming aware of these things, we're becoming alert.

01:56:12.000 And you know, I myself, when I was a young man growing up, I couldn't imagine anything, you know, being wrong with Halloween.

01:56:20.000 It was a little frightening, a little bit scary.

01:56:23.000 But I didn't know it was actually on a cult day, still in practice.

01:56:28.000 You know, I recently read, and I know you have, the news headlines, this has been going on for several years, in Europe and Belgium.

01:56:36.000 Now we find out that there's an entire network of politicians and judges throughout Europe that are tied with a child abduction, murder, snuff film production ring.

01:56:49.000 We're talking about killing toddlers.

01:56:53.000 Killing toddlers and this guy had been let go by judges and such. 0.61

01:56:59.000 These things are real.

01:57:00.000 I believe it's happening in America.

01:57:02.000 You know, just the mainstream.

01:57:03.000 You know, Fred Barnes, who puts the Saturday Review, or the National Review, one of the conservative magazines, said something on TV recently.

01:57:12.000 He said, in all the history of the United States, a free mason has never been convicted of murder.

01:57:18.000 You mentioned that, how they favor each other, the judges and so forth.

01:57:22.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:57:23.000 Millions of masons, not one of them has ever gone to the death chair.

01:57:26.000 Well, it is admitted that they let him go, then they found two more dead kids.

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01:58:12.000 We're going to be going to John and Larry and Gary and Alex there in just a few minutes.

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01:58:43.000 When we come back from this quick segment, in the next segment, I want to ask you about Hugo Chavez saying we don't practice Halloween.

01:58:50.000 We're not satanic like the Americans.

01:58:53.000 Because I know a lot of Latin Americans and they are scared to death of Halloween.

01:58:56.000 Mexico's different though. 0.98

01:58:57.000 They're a little more satanic. 0.98

01:58:59.000 More like the Western culture.

01:59:01.000 Let's go ahead and go to John in Mass.

01:59:05.000 John, you're on the air with Tex Marsh.

01:59:07.000 Hi Alex.

01:59:08.000 It's great to be on with you guys today.

01:59:08.000 Hi Tex.

01:59:11.000 I just wanted to call because, number one, I live in Salem, Massachusetts, which I absolutely hate.

01:59:19.000 First day of the year, live here.

01:59:21.000 But what a lot of people don't understand is, a lot of people come up here, they're dressed in costumes, they go downtown, they hang out.

01:59:28.000 But they don't understand that there's witches all over here that are practicing secret rituals.

01:59:34.000 And it's one of those invite-only things.

01:59:38.000 I mean, it really is incredible.

01:59:40.000 It's going on right under everyone's nose, and they don't even get it.

01:59:44.000 Well, we've studied it throughout history.

01:59:46.000 You'll have the actual Satanist engaging in rituals and posing as Christians. 0.81

01:59:52.000 Tex, you want to comment on this?

01:59:54.000 Well, I think it is interesting up in Salem, Massachusetts, where I remember seeing pictures.

01:59:59.000 I've never been to Massachusetts.

02:00:01.000 I'm sure it's beautiful up in New England.

02:00:03.000 But they actually have road signs, you know, inviting you into the land of the witches.

02:00:09.000 And they have a picture of a witch riding a broom, supposedly.

02:00:14.000 And I remember Governor Michael Dukakis, and I know John will remember this, he once had a little celebration, you might say, a little luncheon in his governor's mansion there, and he named one of the witches, I think it was Lori Cobbett or one of them, as the Commonwealth of Massachusetts official witch.

02:00:37.000 And again, this is all supposed to be in great fun, but it's not so much fun.

02:00:41.000 You know, I was recently reading a book Published in France, but now in English because it was so popular.

02:00:49.000 It is entitled, Abortion as a Religious Sacrament. 0.92

02:00:55.000 And the author of it says that abortion is a wonderful thing and witches and goddess advocates should support it. 0.99

02:01:03.000 Because it is really the sacrifice of a live human being.

02:01:07.000 Well, did you hear about coming in from Columbia, all of those dead babies inside the statues?

02:01:13.000 It was hardly even in our news, it was in the BBC, being shipped in for rituals in Miami a month ago.

02:01:19.000 Oh my goodness, Bill, I missed that.

02:01:21.000 That is just incredible.

02:01:23.000 Apparently it was in the BBC, showed photos of all these statues with dead babies in them, and they were going to gobble them.

02:01:30.000 Wow, this is just... Well, it is grotesque, and it is real, and that's what I want to encourage people to understand.

02:01:35.000 Well, how dare you say they're bad, eaten, dead babies, Jack?

02:01:37.000 That's a friendly thing to do.

02:01:40.000 Well, again, we get back to the ancient mystery of religions, and one of the things I show in Codex Magicka, whether it's Albert Pike, the former Sovereign Grand Commander of Freemasonry, all of the Satan worshippers and the leaders of the early Illuminati, all of them, ...believed, basically, in sacrifice.

02:02:04.000 It's interesting that Pike, who actually used Indians during the Civil War to take the scalp of Yankee soldiers.

02:02:13.000 He was a Civil War Confederate general.

02:02:16.000 And it's interesting that his statue sits in front, or stands in front, of the U.S.

02:02:21.000 Justice Department in Washington, D.C.

02:02:25.000 Right down the street from the Supreme Court.

02:02:28.000 Isn't that amazing?

02:02:29.000 A Confederate war general statue stands in Washington, D.C.

02:02:34.000 on public land in front of the Justice Department.

02:02:36.000 Jesse Jackson doesn't seem to care.

02:02:38.000 Well, Jesse is a 33rd degree mason as is Colin Powell.

02:02:43.000 We'll be right back with more calls.

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02:05:56.000 Chavez, president of Venezuela, calls for ban on Halloween, BBC.

02:06:01.000 He said, we don't dress our children up like witches. 0.97

02:06:06.000 We're not like that.

02:06:07.000 We're not here to terrorize our people.

02:06:08.000 We're not Satanist.

02:06:10.000 We're not here to put fear into our nation, putting fear into their own people.

02:06:16.000 And there have been lanterns being put around the Capitol building with little threats in it as of late.

02:06:22.000 A little threat to Chavez.

02:06:24.000 Now I'm not here defending Chavez and his political views, but the point is that he's outside the New World Order.

02:06:29.000 He's not playing ball with them.

02:06:31.000 Clearly they hate his guts.

02:06:32.000 Oh, a strange bedfellow here.

02:06:35.000 Chavez agrees with us that it's really bad news.

02:06:37.000 I'm not for banning it because it's free speech, folks, but we need to be honest.

02:06:43.000 About this, and under the hate crime laws, I wouldn't be able to criticize this, and they're trying to get those passed.

02:06:48.000 They have in England.

02:06:49.000 I mean, how can they have the head of the Church of England, the Bishop of Canterbury, openly as a Druid? 0.99

02:06:55.000 I have the video of him, and photos of him in the new film, in his Druid outfit with the big sword.

02:07:02.000 And Julius Caesar, right there at that very spot 2,000 years ago, saw them eating the people they'd sacrificed.

02:07:07.000 I mean, this is admitted.

02:07:09.000 Tex, why do you think Chavez is out here saying this now?

02:07:13.000 Well, of course, Chavez has been attacked, and even Pat Robertson, by the way, you're going to find that he is a high-level Freemason, and you'll see the actual hand signals that Pat Robertson uses in my book, Codex Magicka.

02:07:25.000 So, Pat Robertson, the Seminary Club, is a tool of the elite, and they're all after Hugo Chavez, and you're absolutely right.

02:07:33.000 He will not play ball.

02:07:35.000 With the Illuminati elite.

02:07:36.000 They hate the guy.

02:07:38.000 He has a lot of oil.

02:07:39.000 More than just about anybody in this hemisphere.

02:07:42.000 And they're going to... Watch out. 0.97

02:07:44.000 He will probably be a dead man before long. 0.81

02:07:47.000 I hope he's got some good bodyguards. 0.94

02:07:50.000 But now he's giving speeches about how he doesn't want his people worshipping the devil like us.

02:07:55.000 Well, I think he knows what he's talking about there.

02:07:58.000 We are the leading country on the occult.

02:08:01.000 I mean, our movies.

02:08:03.000 You just turn on the television and just look at the array of evil, occultic, satanic, slasher movies.

02:08:13.000 Our kids are being programmed this way.

02:08:16.000 And no wonder we're having things like what happened at Abu Ghraib Prison.

02:08:21.000 Because these kids are being taught that there's nothing wrong with this hideous activity.

02:08:26.000 Oh, it's going to get worse.

02:08:29.000 Well, it probably will get worse.

02:08:31.000 But it is interesting that Hugo Chavez is throwing this up to us right in our face.

02:08:37.000 You know, the Bible says, and I don't mean to preach a sermon here, but it's very simple.

02:08:41.000 A simple rule of thumb.

02:08:43.000 It says, overcome evil with good.

02:08:47.000 That's what we're supposed to do as Christians, but what kind of example is it to send evil?

02:08:53.000 To transmit evil throughout the world?

02:08:57.000 With this holiday, and by the way, if we are, supposedly we were formed first as a Christian nation, and a lot of people say that's not true, but again, Halloween was not practiced among the people.

02:09:11.000 It was brought over here by immigrants to the United States, and really began to get, in popular means, about 1845.

02:09:20.000 So George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, they didn't know anything about Halloween.

02:09:23.000 It would have been a grotesque thing for them.

02:09:27.000 Well, let's be clear, even the Associated Press is on the history of Christmas, and I've had guests on and written books about that.

02:09:34.000 Santa Claus, I think it was in 1820 or 1830 or so, they banned Christmas

02:09:40.000 For a decade, because there were so many fires, so many murders, so many shootings in London, and everybody modeled that there were these groups of street thugs that would demand tricks or treats on Christmas as well, and they modeled after, and I've seen the old sketches of him from the period, he looks like Freddy Krueger, he's a criminal with gorilla arms, with striped stockings, and Santa Claus runs around basically stealing and murdering, And so now that's Coca-Cola, by the way.

02:10:10.000 Santa, they made him popular in the 20s.

02:10:11.000 He didn't even get popular in the 20s.

02:10:14.000 Just one company, Coca-Cola, he's a friendly guy with a big beard.

02:10:17.000 See, now that's Christmas.

02:10:19.000 So they're even... Easter, Ishtar, the bunny rabbit, the eggs, you know, Playboy, sex, fertility folks, you know, the symbol Ishtar, the bunny.

02:10:27.000 I mean, Tex, they're taking everything over.

02:10:29.000 They are.

02:10:30.000 Now, the first step is basically to pollute Christianity. 0.97

02:10:34.000 To bring us these things, and they look good, they have tinsel on them, they look wonderful, they're gaily wrapped, all of these holidays.

02:10:41.000 But eventually they will come back and admit it, and they will say, did you know that Christmas is really a pagan, satanic day?

02:10:48.000 Did you know that the very word Santa, S-A-N-T-A, that word is an anagram for Satan?

02:10:55.000 Just a little scrambling of the letters.

02:10:57.000 They will actually admit what they have done to us, and people will go, oh, well that's okay.

02:11:04.000 See, this is their plan.

02:11:05.000 It is the way the satanic psychologists work. 0.95

02:11:10.000 Well, all you do is switch the T with the N, you get Satan. 0.79

02:11:15.000 Yeah, you get Satan.

02:11:17.000 And I can show you in the new age of cultic literature, for example, published by the Lucis Trust, they call their god Samat, S-A-N-A-T.

02:11:26.000 So here again, you see an anagram for Satan.

02:11:30.000 The Masons, of course, worship a god they call Jabulan, and they call him the Great Architect.

02:11:39.000 Of the universe.

02:11:40.000 So, all of these shadowy names, of course, are synonyms when you really look into it.

02:11:46.000 Because Jabilan means a combination of Yahweh, or Jehovah, Baal, and On, which is one of the names of the Egyptian god, Osiris.

02:11:57.000 Tex, I want to jam a few final calls in here.

02:11:59.000 I know you've got to go, and I'm going to move quick through these.

02:12:01.000 But what is the New World Order's final master plan?

02:12:05.000 If they had their way, what would things look like right now?

02:12:09.000 Well, they're on their way to getting it.

02:12:11.000 What they want is a utopia in which the elite philosophers, which they think is them. 0.99

02:12:16.000 You can be as stupid as George Bush, but he believes he's a king philosopher, as you know, would have it back in Platonic, Plato-type literature. 0.95

02:12:25.000 They want a utopia on Earth, which means the peasants, a feudalistic system, will be reinstituted, and the masses will be ruled over by this largely elite, And so that is the new world order. 1.00

02:12:41.000 So they're going to use religion, economics, politics, all those areas to bring it to pass.

02:12:48.000 And so they're working in every field, these custodians of what they call the plan.

02:12:55.000 Absolutely.

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02:13:21.000 Just tell the lady, because she's not going to ask you, she's not going to try to sell you anything, who answers the phone there.

02:13:28.000 But 1-800-234-9673 or, Alex, as you mentioned, it will be available on Infowars.com on the Internet.

02:13:35.000 It is, right now.

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02:13:40.000 I hope you get it.

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02:13:48.000 Let's jam calls in.

02:13:49.000 I know you guys have been patient.

02:13:50.000 I want to get to you.

02:13:52.000 I guess next up here is Larry.

02:13:55.000 Larry, you're calling us from Arizona, I believe.

02:13:57.000 Go ahead.

02:13:59.000 That's right, Alex.

02:14:01.000 I had to call in when I heard that Tex was on your show, because I owe Tex a thanks.

02:14:05.000 Several years ago, I made a missionary journey over to the Philippines, and at that time, Tex was offering free materials for missionaries, and his office was kind enough to send me four cases of books, which I handed out in the Philippines, and the people there were very grateful.

02:14:20.000 Yeah, Tex is one of the most gracious people I know.

02:14:23.000 Very nice person.

02:14:25.000 You're way too kind to me, but thank you very much, Alex and Larry.

02:14:30.000 I'd like to ask you a question, if I can.

02:14:33.000 One of your tape series that I got several years ago, and by the way, you were the first person that turned me on to all of this New World Order stuff back in the 90s.

02:14:42.000 I also want to thank you for that.

02:14:43.000 But what I wanted to ask you about was one tape series that you had about People that were ducking out of the Vietnam War and going into seminaries and they really didn't do it for the right reasons.

02:14:52.000 Yeah, communist infiltrating.

02:14:54.000 Thanks for the call.

02:14:55.000 I want to take a few more.

02:14:56.000 Tex, comment on that?

02:14:58.000 Well, there was, you know, a church of universal life.

02:15:01.000 A fake church that came up during the Vietnam War.

02:15:04.000 And I think 3 million guys became ministers of this fake church.

02:15:09.000 with a bi-male ordination certificate, and they got out of the war. 0.51

02:15:16.000 And many of these people went on to actually pastor churches.

02:15:20.000 And there were hundreds of thousands who went to divinity schools and seminaries just because they were draft dodgers.

02:15:27.000 And now, hey, they're in their high 40s, 50s, 60s, and they're running the religious establishment.

02:15:34.000 Larry is absolutely right.

02:15:35.000 So be very careful who your pastor is.

02:15:38.000 Exactly.

02:15:39.000 Let's talk to Gary in Ohio.

02:15:42.000 Gary, go ahead.

02:15:43.000 First time I called you, I want to thank you for fighting the New World Order. 0.93

02:15:47.000 I learned about 9-11 basically from you.

02:15:49.000 I've been passing out your videos.

02:15:51.000 And also the whole globalist control thing.

02:15:54.000 Well thank you.

02:15:55.000 I was least interested in the Bohemian Grove and the occult aspect of it until I saw Bohemian Grove and found out there's Syria. 0.96

02:16:03.000 They do that, you know, serious black magic stuff.

02:16:05.000 I want to say, for most people, I'm sorry, I come from more on the left, and for most people Halloween is just, you know, make-believe, goofy stuff.

02:16:14.000 But as far as the globalists, I think that, you know, we're doing a great job of exposing them, but right now they own the army, they own the media, they can cut you off in a minute, they own the banking system, dollars, voting, they put pig genes in our tomatoes and our food.

02:16:29.000 You know what they did with the water in Bolivia, where they were charging people a quarter of their monthly income just to survive.

02:16:35.000 So my question is, to restore American liberty, don't we really have to think about taking these things back from them?

02:16:43.000 Not like Stalin or anything, but like a decentralized grassroots control.

02:16:50.000 Okay, I appreciate your call, and I wish you'd call back some other day.

02:16:54.000 We could talk 10 minutes about this.

02:16:55.000 We're out of time.

02:16:56.000 But, yeah, you've got to decentralize things.

02:16:59.000 You've got to break up these monopolies.

02:17:01.000 They're not free market.

02:17:02.000 They're the opposite of that.

02:17:03.000 And so they love socialism because that consolidates wealth for them.

02:17:07.000 Tex, do you agree?

02:17:08.000 Absolutely.

02:17:09.000 The only thing I would add, Alex, is, you know, a lot of these organizations, I believe Sierra Club, environmental groups and such, They are actually controlled by the elite.

02:17:20.000 They claim to be decentralized, but they're not.

02:17:23.000 But we need to develop mechanisms.

02:17:24.000 We need to develop a true decentralization.

02:17:27.000 You're right.

02:17:28.000 Tex, I really want to thank you for coming on with us, my friend.

02:17:30.000 I look forward to talking to you in the near future.

02:17:32.000 Alex, great to be on with you and your wonderful audience again.

02:17:34.000 God bless you.

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02:21:43.000 Well, we've got the president of the National Vaccine Information Center on with us.

02:21:59.000 We'll talk to him in a moment, Barbaralee Fisher.

02:22:01.000 They passed the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act for Homeland Security, page 76, because they couldn't get the states to do it three years ago.

02:22:08.000 They tried to order medical workers and police to take it.

02:22:11.000 They wholesale refused 99 plus percent.

02:22:15.000 According to the Associated Press and L.A. 0.94

02:22:17.000 Times, showing that even the enforcers aren't stupid. 0.60

02:22:20.000 On top, virologists and others came out and said that this thing will spread smallpox and is very toxic. 0.96

02:22:27.000 Well, here's one London Telegraph.

02:22:29.000 I see articles like this every day.

02:22:31.000 Here's just one today because we've got this guest on.

02:22:33.000 Flu jab may be fatal to some pensioners.

02:22:37.000 They report that old folks going in to get the shots are dying.

02:22:41.000 They're suffering internal bleeding and dying and something's in the vaccines.

02:22:47.000 Folks, how many people do you know were never sick but took a flu jab and they go to the hospital?

02:22:51.000 And in the last five years they admit the flu shots they've given you don't even cover the flu that's coming out this year.

02:22:58.000 But you still line up like cattle.

02:23:01.000 Massive studies, I mean medical studies, double-blind studies, decades-long studies show that the folks that take four or five or more flu shots who are older get Alzheimer's.

02:23:12.000 What do you think it does to your brain, folks?

02:23:12.000 Well, yeah, the mercury.

02:23:15.000 Alzheimer's is the exact same thing as mercury poisoning in many cases.

02:23:20.000 And it's been a scourge.

02:23:22.000 Autism up several thousand percent.

02:23:23.000 We've had medical doctors on to cover this.

02:23:26.000 They haven't taken it out of the shots.

02:23:28.000 They've actually increased it in most shots.

02:23:30.000 But the MMR and flu, up to 250 times safe levels, that all said, that's admitted, that all said now they are trying to pass mechanisms to forcibly inject you, to federalize the states to do this, they're having drills all over the country in Walmart parking lots where they practice busing in the school kids for their forcible injection, they give them a jelly bean so when it really happens they don't have fear.

02:23:53.000 Now this is really scary, and now they want to give them liability protection.

02:23:56.000 Now here's the difference.

02:23:58.000 I'm for liability protection of gun makers.

02:24:01.000 Because if somebody goes and buys a Louisville Slugger and beats your brains out, it's not Louisville Slugger's fault.

02:24:06.000 Or if somebody runs over you in a Ford pickup truck on purpose, it's not Ford's fault.

02:24:09.000 It's the same thing with guns.

02:24:11.000 But with these shots, they claim it's a medical thing, they claim it's a drug, they claim it's something that helps you, and it doesn't, and they knowingly do this, they need to be held accountable.

02:24:20.000 We're going to break here in a few minutes, but she's going to be with us for the balance of the broadcast until about 50 after.

02:24:25.000 We'll try to jam a few calls in.

02:24:28.000 And she is Barbara Lee Fisher.

02:24:30.000 Barbara, we've got this new nightmare.

02:24:32.000 It's passed the Senate and it's in the House.

02:24:35.000 Tell us all about it.

02:24:36.000 Yeah, it's the latest in federal legislation since September 11, 2001.

02:24:44.000 That is trying to totally absolve the vaccine makers from all liability for vaccine injuries and deaths and also protect anyone who's connected with giving these vaccines, any public health officials, any physicians who give the vaccines for what happens after they give them.

02:25:03.000 And it all started with the Homeland Security bill after 9-1-1 and the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act, which were going through the states, being passed through the states.

02:25:16.000 And then we have Project BioShield 2004, and now we have this latest legislation that is trying to take away all liability for whenever the Secretary of Health and Human Services declares even an imminent public health emergency, which gives great latitude there, that then they would be able to use even unlicensed drugs and vaccines on the people, and nobody would be held accountable if people died.

02:25:42.000 And this is going to be forcible by the way, boys and girls.

02:25:45.000 Yeah, I think that people really don't understand what they did with the Homeland Security bill.

02:25:53.000 It was the most incredible reorganization of the checks and balances that we have had historically in power in this country.

02:26:03.000 It tilts now.

02:26:04.000 It's total federalization.

02:26:06.000 It's a giant cloaking device for public martial law.

02:26:09.000 Ron Paul and many others are now saying that.

02:26:11.000 And certainly, that's where they started to talk about And where they gave the power to the Secretary of HHS to declare even an imminent public health emergency and use, quote, substance or substances on the people.

02:26:24.000 You know, whatever, that's very broad.

02:26:27.000 And then, of course, Project BioShield 2004 went further, and in fact, you know, there have been a number of military personnel who have been forced to take the Antrax vaccine, which is basically an experimental vaccine and has never been licensed by the Food and Drug Administration.

02:26:41.000 And that's illegal even with the military!

02:26:44.000 But I guess not now.

02:26:46.000 No, and there's been a court case in the federal district court here, and there was a judge that said to Donald Rumsfeld, you may not give these soldiers this experimental vaccine without informed consent because it's experimental, it's against the law.

02:27:01.000 And what they did, what the Secretary of Defense did in conjunction with the Secretary of HHS is invoke Project BioShield and had an emergency use authorization issued that got around that federal court order.

02:27:12.000 So you see, already we're seeing what's happened when we give too much power to the executive branch.

02:27:18.000 And folks, I mean they're doing this on purpose to the troops.

02:27:22.000 Understand this is bioweapons testing on our own people.

02:27:26.000 Oh boy, trouble, the deformities, and all sorts of health problems.

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02:31:12.000 90 plus percent of Texans are against toll roads.

02:31:15.000 You're going to see election fraud at work here when you watch.

02:31:18.000 There's a good chance, though, magically, though, doesn't matter what all the polls show, you voted for the tolls.

02:31:24.000 We've caught them red-handed many times.

02:31:25.000 That's why in your town, you don't have these new machines in.

02:31:28.000 You really got to vote.

02:31:30.000 Vote no on Prop 1 and Prop 9.

02:31:32.000 1 is the toll roads and 9 is trying to, so they can stay in office longer.

02:31:37.000 Just vote no on 1 and 9 for our Texas audience.

02:31:40.000 And no matter where you live in the country, they're coming at you with the toll roads.

02:31:45.000 By the way, before school always opens, they tell you it's the law.

02:31:49.000 You gotta go be vaccinated to go to school.

02:31:51.000 There's no law.

02:31:52.000 There's never been a law.

02:31:53.000 But they're just lying and it's a big, big business.

02:31:58.000 Just with this Flu scare they're doing with the bird flu.

02:32:03.000 Look at what they've been able to do.

02:32:06.000 They've been running around yelling and screaming about that and hyperventilating and it turns out Rumsfeld's company is going to make between four and seven million dollars with this pill.

02:32:15.000 And then one of the other companies has got connections into the White House making the flu vaccine.

02:32:20.000 Which they admit doesn't even cover this supposed flu.

02:32:23.000 So it's just a huge payoff in the tens of millions of dollars each year to these guys and then we find out what's in these vaccines.

02:32:31.000 We have the CDC documents from 2000 where they said we've brain damaged millions but we've got to cover this up.

02:32:37.000 And it's by design, folks.

02:32:39.000 So make no mistake, this is happening.

02:32:41.000 This is coming.

02:32:42.000 And they're really pushing to set the precedent to put in our bodies what they want, when they want.

02:32:47.000 They're talking about engineering vaccines into vegetables now.

02:32:50.000 They already have the technology.

02:32:52.000 Pharmacological crops.

02:32:54.000 They're setting this precedent, talking to the President, Barbara Lee Fisher, of the National Vaccine Organization that exposes all of this.

02:33:05.000 And we're so honored to have her on with us today from the National Vaccine Information Center.

02:33:11.000 Continuing with what we're facing, how do we beat this?

02:33:15.000 Because they just keep coming back, coming back with this.

02:33:17.000 How do we beat this, Barbara?

02:33:19.000 Well, you know, I don't know how we're going to really be able to turn this, to stop this bill.

02:33:26.000 We might be able to, people are going to have to contact their congresspersons and they're going to have to make their views known.

02:33:33.000 I mean, that's about the only way we can because we're outgunned up there by the pharmaceutical industry.

02:33:38.000 They have this incredible power and money And also medical organizations, which are also lobbying for this bill.

02:33:46.000 Well, I mean, you said it.

02:33:47.000 I want to make something clear here.

02:33:49.000 Remember earlier this year, they passed the New Freedom Initiative, the Orwellian term, for forced psychological testing and drugging of all school-aged children?

02:33:59.000 Forced testing for all, drugging of many.

02:34:01.000 And the drug company's own internal documents said this was about money.

02:34:04.000 We're going to be able to put half the kids on drugs now. 0.99

02:34:06.000 I mean, literally, they just bought our politicians It's amazing because, of course, there's no liability attached.

02:34:12.000 You talk about a stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare.

02:34:14.000 Now they're just going to demand.

02:34:15.000 I mean, imagine owning a business where you make people buy your product.

02:34:18.000 It's amazing because, of course, there's no liability attached.

02:34:22.000 You talk about a stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare.

02:34:25.000 And I've always said, you know, that until the cop with the nurse and the syringe and the gun comes to your door, Americans are not going to wake up and realize the freedoms that we've given away.

02:34:38.000 Now, one of the things is that public health laws, including those laws governing vaccination, have always been state laws.

02:34:45.000 Why?

02:34:46.000 Because in the U.S.

02:34:47.000 Constitution, anything that was not defined as a federal activity defaulted to the state.

02:34:52.000 So, you're right that there's no federal law compelling vaccination yet, but there are state laws in the different states However, there have been exemptions that so far they've allowed people to get.

02:35:06.000 But this, this is a big step in knocking that out.

02:35:09.000 It started with Homeland Security, and yes, the Homeland Security law was the first time that the feds started to intrude upon the state's rights in this area.

02:35:20.000 And people say that, oh, they'll never, you know, Homeland Security doesn't affect me, Patriot Act doesn't affect me.

02:35:26.000 Yes, it does, folks.

02:35:27.000 It does, and what the bigger plan is, of course, is once they can get all liability removed from those who make vaccines and drugs, those who give them to you, Well, I'll just say this.

02:35:40.000 and that they be given to you, then there's no liability.

02:35:43.000 Then they can, as you know, President Bush several weeks ago said he wanted to use the US military to forcibly quarantine people in the case of a flu epidemic or pandemic.

02:35:55.000 Well, along with that is forced vaccination. - Well, I'll just say this.

02:35:58.000 That's why they gave us the second amendment. - Yeah, and we also have the seventh amendment, which is our right to a trial by jury in front of a jury of our peers.

02:36:09.000 This legislation totally destroys the 7th Amendment.

02:36:12.000 Did you know that the former top CIA analyst for Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr.

02:36:16.000 says the government may carry out terror attacks and set up martial law?

02:36:21.000 Did you know Ron Paul said the government wants to use this vaccine system to declare martial law and get our guns?

02:36:28.000 So many prominent people are now saying we are actually becoming a commie Nazi system.

02:36:35.000 I mean, America really is going into a total dictatorship very soon.

02:36:42.000 You know, I never thought I would feel that our country is in danger and that we have so eroded the fundamental principles of the Constitution when it comes to civil liberties.

02:36:54.000 Our founders came here because they were fleeing from oppression by kings and queens.

02:37:03.000 But that British oppression isn't a thimble compared to this washtub of evil we're now seeing.

02:37:10.000 Certainly, if we cannot have control over what we put in our bodies and the bodies of our children, we can in no sense be free.

02:37:18.000 In my opinion, it's a human right to determine what you're willing to risk your life for.

02:37:24.000 Barbara, why don't you tell people what they found in the vaccines confirmed?

02:37:28.000 I mean, everything you can imagine.

02:37:30.000 Well, it is distressing.

02:37:32.000 When you go and you do the research and you find out how vaccines are made and you find that You know they're using animal cell substrates like monkey kidney cells to make vaccines.

02:37:45.000 We had a problem a lot of people don't realize that the polio vaccine both the killed and live polio was contaminated with a monkey virus that is now Uh, been associated with brain, bone, and lung cancers in both humans, I mean, in both children and adults.

02:37:58.000 Conclusively proven due to the explosive growth rate of many rare cancers that are now quite common, SV40, but there are new viruses, new cancer viruses they're finding in vaccines.

02:38:09.000 Go ahead.

02:38:09.000 Well, yeah, there's, um, they want to raise the level, acceptable level of what they call adventitious agent contamination.

02:38:17.000 Well, let's just say it. 1.00

02:38:18.000 These bastards have been spreading cancer. 1.00

02:38:20.000 I'm sorry, go ahead. 0.99

02:38:21.000 Yeah, you know, it's, I think that there's just been this sort of blind spot with Congress and with the public about vaccines because there's been this incredible promotion that the polio vaccine, the smallpox vaccine, and all these vaccines have saved humanity from infectious diseases.

02:38:39.000 And now they're openly saying, hey, we're not going to clean them up.

02:38:41.000 In fact, we're going to make them as dirty as we want. 1.00

02:38:44.000 Well, unfortunately, with this liability protection, they can do whatever they want to.

02:38:47.000 And the other thing about this bill, That Senate Bill 1873 is that they are setting up this entity that is going to keep secret from the people.

02:38:59.000 You can't, under the Freedom of Information Act, get any information about the way these vaccines and drugs are made.

02:39:05.000 Yeah, keeping science and reporting and all of this secret.

02:39:10.000 A secret holocaust. 0.90

02:39:12.000 Yeah, and so the problem is you'll never be able to go to court to prove, like with the tobacco companies, they were, you know, you need to be able to go into court and hold industries.

02:39:23.000 Now Bush already gave Eli Lilly protection, but we got that stripped. 1.00

02:39:27.000 In the Homeland Security bill, yes.

02:39:29.000 We organized a call-in campaign, and a fax campaign, and we got the thimerosal rider that protected the makers of the thimerosal, the mercury preservatives and vaccines.

02:39:40.000 That was knocked out.

02:39:41.000 But see, they've come around.

02:39:42.000 They waited, and now they're going to achieve what they did not achieve in Homeland Security.

02:39:47.000 They're going to achieve with this piece of... And people wonder why you never hear this on the nightly news.

02:39:51.000 Half the advertisers I've already said this just from watching TV, but I've seen reports, news reports, and industry publications on advertising expenditures.

02:40:01.000 About half of, in your average newscast, right around half, of the ads are drug maker ads.

02:40:08.000 And they all have their vaccine divisions.

02:40:10.000 So literally, half the news budget is being paid for by the drug makers.

02:40:15.000 They're buying up everything!

02:40:16.000 Well just think, if you have a product that is mandated to be used by every single citizen born in this country... But the media won't expose it because half their money, half their profits are from the drug makers!

02:40:28.000 I don't know what, you know, the only thing I can, what we need to do is, as citizens, we need to stand up and we need to get to our elected representatives.

02:40:37.000 And if our elected representatives won't listen to what we say, we have to elect new representatives.

02:40:42.000 Yeah, we've got to have recalls about this.

02:40:45.000 Barbara continuing here, you know, trying to look at this big picture of what we're facing.

02:40:52.000 People need to realize there are 200 vaccines in the research pipeline that are literally being developed to prevent every single infectious disease you can think of.

02:41:03.000 And you know there's never been any research into whether preventing all illness in childhood and as adults is really good for us.

02:41:11.000 I mean obviously we've had illness on this earth since man walked the earth.

02:41:17.000 You know, there are some scientists and physicians who are thinking independently and saying maybe getting sick once in a while is not bad for you, but is actually good for you.

02:41:25.000 Well, it's just like antibiotics has now given rise to superbugs that eat your skin.

02:41:31.000 I know people who have been on antibiotics for 10 years, they're totally unhappy and they can't get off of them now because they don't have an immune system and now it isn't even working for them.

02:41:39.000 But look, That's the thing.

02:41:41.000 Right now, they try to push about 45 vaccines on your kids.

02:41:45.000 10 years ago, it was 30.

02:41:46.000 10 years before that, it was 15.

02:41:48.000 They're now talking about making your child take hundreds of shots, literally on a daily basis, injectors filled with every toxin you can imagine.

02:41:59.000 This is unbelievable.

02:42:00.000 I mean, this is like a science fiction horror movie.

02:42:02.000 Well, I'm afraid people are going to have to wake up and see that just because Smallpox vaccine eradicated smallpox and polio vaccine took polio out.

02:42:11.000 Does it mean that we have to use a vaccine for literally every disease known to man?

02:42:16.000 You know, they're not doing the proper scientific research that needs to be done to look at this issue.

02:42:21.000 They're just going blindly down the road saying more is better.

02:42:25.000 You know, that we can take an unlimited number of vaccines.

02:42:28.000 I mean, it doesn't even make any sense logically.

02:42:31.000 Well, they even admit that they have a vaccine to stop kids having earaches, but they admit that vaccine is very dangerous.

02:42:37.000 They have the meningitis shot, but they admit that's a very dangerous shot and doesn't even protect you in all cases.

02:42:43.000 They've got Hepatitis B vaccine.

02:42:46.000 They're given to 12-hour-old infants in a newborn nursery, even though Hepatitis B is an adult disease.

02:42:51.000 That is through having multiple sexual partners or being an IV drug user.

02:42:56.000 They are creating a vaccine for every sexually transmitted disease that they want to target, including HIV.

02:43:01.000 Did you hear about England?

02:43:02.000 For teenagers.

02:43:03.000 Did you hear about England?

02:43:04.000 I'm sure you did.

02:43:05.000 They also, barely, it was barely defeated, they wanted to pass a law to give every child in England an injection of a vaccine with a live virus that was actually going to attack key nerve centers in the brain to, quote, cure children so they would never use cocaine, heroin, nicotine, or any other opiate.

02:43:27.000 Folks, imagine a vaccine with a virus that actually creates a type of chemical lobotomy.

02:43:27.000 Right.

02:43:34.000 That's a science fiction movie, folks.

02:43:35.000 That's Brave New World.

02:43:37.000 You're right.

02:43:38.000 There's an anti-cocaine vaccine there.

02:43:41.000 I'm telling you.

02:43:42.000 But it actually attacks the brain.

02:43:44.000 They have a science fiction movie out about that right now.

02:43:47.000 Well, I just think we've given too much power to MDs and PhDs who choose to become scientists and physicians.

02:43:54.000 Well, some cop tries to come to my door and ejected me with some kind of thing that attacks my brain.

02:43:59.000 I mean, this is insane!

02:44:02.000 Well, I think people just don't understand because so many of these laws are passed quietly and that's one of the reasons that our organization, and we've been doing this vaccine safety work for 23 years, Put out a press release and said, you know, people wake up, see what's happened.

02:44:18.000 You need to take back your country. 1.00

02:44:19.000 You need to take back your Constitution.

02:44:22.000 And you can only do that by going and holding the elected officials accountable for the votes that they make.

02:44:30.000 You need to monitor what your elected official at the state and federal level is doing.

02:44:35.000 Find out what they're doing.

02:44:36.000 Find out who gives the money.

02:44:37.000 You can find that out by going on the internet and see who gives your elected official money.

02:44:43.000 And then if you don't like what they're doing in Washington or in your state capitol, you need to vote them out.

02:44:49.000 Get your own people involved.

02:44:50.000 But I thought we fought the British so we could forcibly inject our children with hundreds of toxins. 0.98

02:44:55.000 I'm sure that our founders are turning over in their graves.

02:44:58.000 They wouldn't believe.

02:45:00.000 They really wouldn't.

02:45:01.000 Okay, well we know it passed the Senate.

02:45:02.000 What's the House bill number?

02:45:05.000 I don't actually, you know, I don't have the house bill number in front of me here, but they can go to our website.

02:45:09.000 We'll be updating that.

02:45:11.000 We have a portion on our website and we'll get that new house number in there.

02:45:14.000 That's N-V-I-C dot O-R-G. 1.00

02:45:17.000 That's correct.

02:45:18.000 N-V-I-C dot O-R-G. 1.00

02:45:19.000 I know I've been jumping in a lot, Barbara.

02:45:21.000 It's just that it freaks me out.

02:45:23.000 I know.

02:45:23.000 I mean, when I'm reading London Telegraph articles that are That are reported like it's good.

02:45:29.000 Oh, it's wonderful.

02:45:30.000 It attacks the brain so that you can't have these receptors plugged in by the opiates or by the nicotine.

02:45:36.000 But then I talked to a medical doctor.

02:45:38.000 I already knew it, but I talked to a brain expert about it on air and he said, well, of course, this will plug up the receptor where you can't feel good when you score the touchdown or you do good at work or your wife has that first child.

02:45:51.000 I mean, If they destroy the receptors in the brain for those pleasures, those drugs simply mimic natural receptor points.

02:45:59.000 Yeah, it's Brave New World.

02:46:02.000 I don't know if you've ever read it.

02:46:03.000 Actually, it's Brave New World.

02:46:05.000 Yes, yes.

02:46:06.000 But it's very unsettling.

02:46:09.000 And I think, again, people have got to be more aware.

02:46:12.000 And they need to vote people into their state legislatures and into Congress to understand that we do not want pharma running our lives.

02:46:20.000 We don't want public health officials and pharma with too much power and too much money telling us what to put in our bodies. 0.87

02:46:28.000 Well, we've got to defeat the bill.

02:46:30.000 Congress set to pass a law eliminating liability for vaccine and green.

02:46:34.000 And we'll get that up on our website, the new House bill.

02:46:38.000 Alright, it just went to the House.

02:46:39.000 It was S-1873.

02:46:40.000 It's passed the Senate Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act.

02:46:46.000 That's right.

02:46:47.000 And that'll be the name of the House.

02:46:48.000 It just went for Bio and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act.

02:46:53.000 And Barbara, I want to commend you for coming on, folks.

02:46:54.000 You need to go to your website, NVIC.org.

02:46:59.000 NVIC.org.

02:47:02.000 And you better get involved.

02:47:03.000 Barbara, thank you for coming on.

02:47:04.000 Oh, thank you.

02:47:05.000 Bye-bye.

02:47:05.000 God bless.

02:47:06.000 Take care.

02:47:07.000 Folks, this isn't a joke, okay?

02:47:09.000 Type in pharmacological crops.

02:47:12.000 They're going to put it in the food.

02:47:13.000 They already have it.

02:47:15.000 They have developed vaccines that they're looking at in the U.S.

02:47:18.000 and that they tried to pass a law last year in England, by law, to make you take a vaccine where the virus actually creates a plaque.

02:47:29.000 A plaque.

02:47:32.000 It actually goes in, tailored, And the virus plugs into your receptor sites and actually kills brain cells.

02:47:40.000 I can't believe this.

02:47:41.000 I mean, we're talking actual brain engineering.

02:47:45.000 You want to know what all this technology and the $700 hammers that have been spent on in the Pentagon?

02:47:51.000 You know it didn't really go into hammers.

02:47:54.000 It is actual stuff where they give you a shot and man, you are that mindless, after that you're just like a zombie.

02:48:00.000 And they're going to be coming by in their black masks.

02:48:02.000 Laugh at me like you did about everything else.

02:48:04.000 If we don't stop them in 10 years, they're going to be coming around even sooner in black masks with Rogue Leader 17.

02:48:10.000 Go in!

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02:48:12.000 Take your shot now!

02:48:12.000 You're with us now!

02:48:13.000 Join us!

02:48:14.000 Join us!

02:48:14.000 Now you're with us!

02:48:15.000 Yes!

02:48:16.000 Yes!

02:48:16.000 Now you're with us!

02:48:17.000 Now you're with the world leader now! 1.00

02:48:19.000 I mean, these people are psychopathic, occult sickos. 1.00

02:48:23.000 Go read the London Telegraph. 1.00

02:48:25.000 Go read the BBC.

02:48:26.000 They almost passed a law to actually lobotomize every child in England.

02:48:31.000 I'm not joking!

02:48:32.000 We are just living in absolute insanity!

02:48:37.000 Normal people respond to it like I am!

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02:51:37.000 A few months ago, I saw a trailer for a science fiction movie where the government makes you take a shot.

02:51:51.000 of a virus that then makes you behave yourself It goes in and eats your brain, eats certain... And of course, that's real!

02:51:57.000 They're actually about to pass laws to make us take it!

02:52:00.000 I mean, see, that's why I'm freaking out here, folks!

02:52:03.000 It's so bad!

02:52:05.000 I mean, the cops out there, they're going to brain damage your kids! 0.98

02:52:07.000 I know!

02:52:08.000 You'll just roll their sleeves up and let them hurt your children! 0.97

02:52:10.000 Because you believe the system's so good! 0.96

02:52:13.000 You're so brainwashed! 1.00

02:52:14.000 You're so stupid! 1.00

02:52:16.000 And you yuppies out there, and all of you, you make me sick! 1.00

02:52:20.000 And in the movie Serenity, you know, that's the message.

02:52:22.000 The government's really secretly, you know, trying to make people sedative.

02:52:27.000 I haven't seen the movie Equilibrium, but John Harmon, running the show, keeps telling me to see it.

02:52:32.000 John, what does Equilibrium talk about?

02:52:33.000 I'm going to take a few calls.

02:52:35.000 Yeah, basically, um, everyone's forced to take this drug that... Emotions are banned in the future because emotions result in anger and violence and all that stuff, so everyone is turned into mindless zombies.

02:52:51.000 To ensure peace.

02:52:54.000 Which Aldous Huxley said his brother was UN Secretary General of UNESCO, but he wrote it back in the 30s before the UN even existed.

02:53:02.000 He said in a speech in 62 at Berkeley that I've aired here, no this is the real plan.

02:53:07.000 I've worked with the global government.

02:53:08.000 My book is about our plan.

02:53:10.000 So you go, well why is what the book says what they're doing?

02:53:13.000 Because it's an actual plan, people!

02:53:16.000 Listen to me!

02:53:18.000 Soylent Green is made out of people! 1.00

02:53:20.000 It's that equivalent, okay?

02:53:21.000 It's that level!

02:53:23.000 They're so close to the troops and the injectors.

02:53:26.000 And Ron Paul won't care anymore.

02:53:27.000 Once they get him, he'll be on the news.

02:53:29.000 Everything is fine.

02:53:29.000 I've had my injection.

02:53:30.000 I love the global leader.

02:53:31.000 I mean, folks, this is not a joke.

02:53:33.000 You realize we're in a science fiction horror movie.

02:53:36.000 This is, all you can do is fight at that point. 1.00

02:53:39.000 When these dumb, dumb, dumb cops come with stupid troops, who've all had their injections, and all are following orders now, they're all going to be feeling fine. 1.00

02:53:50.000 Go to InfoWars.com, get the new book Codex Magica, get my film Martial Law, make a thousand copies, run around screening, wake everybody up, freak out, pull your hair out. 1.00

02:53:59.000 That's the normal response to this stuff.

02:54:02.000 It's just unbelievable.

02:54:03.000 They're going to make a law to forcibly inject us in no liability with just all this garbage, and it's going to be incrementally done.

02:54:09.000 Let's talk to Alex and Mast and Joseph and England's been holding for five million years.

02:54:13.000 Go ahead, Alex.

02:54:16.000 Oh, hey, um, I'm from North Carolina.

02:54:16.000 Quickly!

02:54:18.000 Was there an Alex from Alex?

02:54:20.000 It doesn't matter.

02:54:21.000 Go ahead, sir. 0.78

02:54:22.000 Well, um, you know, for 15 years or so, I've been aware of, and incrementally, of various things you talk about on the show, and I've always thought that I've done a good job of finding out about it, trying to protect myself and my family, until I learned recently that I guess I'm a complete moron, because I've been poisoning myself for the last 25 years, and I've been doing it with dental amalgam.

02:54:45.000 Well, let me tell you, Dental Amalgam is at 1.1 billionth as bad as these vaccines.

02:54:53.000 Oh, okay.

02:54:54.000 Well, I guess that's good.

02:54:54.000 I'm having all of them out, you know, as soon as I can, but it's unsettling, though, to know that, like, for example, I looked online and I found the Material Data Safety Sheet for a product called Dispersaloid.

02:55:10.000 And, you know, if you go to a regular dentist, he'll tell you that there's nothing wrong with amalgams.

02:55:14.000 They can't possibly hurt you.

02:55:15.000 But the datasheet says that the number of amalgam restorations for one patient should be kept to a minimum.

02:55:22.000 Inhalation of mercury vapor by dental staff may be avoided by proper handling.

02:55:26.000 Yeah, no, the actual literature says it's dangerous.

02:55:29.000 Thanks for the call.

02:55:29.000 I'm sorry we're out of time.

02:55:30.000 Joseph in England.

02:55:31.000 Go ahead, Joseph.

02:55:34.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, Equilibrium is a good film, but if you want to see a film that really describes the New World Order, there's a good one with Ewan McGregor called The Island you've got to see.

02:55:42.000 Oh, I saw that.

02:55:43.000 Yeah, The Island's great.

02:55:45.000 I'm just going to read a quick headline out of the UK Daily Mirror.

02:55:49.000 Our envoy loses satellite phone, Iraqi rebels find it, run up a £500,000 bill calling al-Qaeda in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, if you can believe that.

02:55:59.000 I never covered that.

02:56:00.000 More proof al-Qaeda is MI6 CIA.

02:56:03.000 Absolutely.

02:56:04.000 You're absolutely right.

02:56:05.000 It's in the stack.

02:56:06.000 I didn't get to it.

02:56:07.000 I'm sorry.

02:56:09.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:56:10.000 We'll talk more, okay?

02:56:11.000 Okay, then.

02:56:12.000 Joseph, and that goes for John, and everybody else, and Alex, and all of you.

02:56:16.000 Just great callers.

02:56:17.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - November 04, 2005

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