Alex Jones Show - November 24, 2005


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Alex Jones sits down with Ron Paul to discuss the Iraq War, torture, the Patriot Act, and the ongoing problems of the economy. Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican Congressman from Texas who is running for re-election in 2016.

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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.
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00:00:03.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:05.000 You want answers?
00:00:07.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:08.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:16.000 All right, folks.
00:00:27.000 For the next 20 minutes, we're honored to have Congressman Ron Paul on with us.
00:00:31.000 I've got my questions for him about the Iraq War, when are we getting out of there, all this new torture information coming out, Rumsfeld saying he didn't advocate for the war.
00:00:42.000 I also want to get into the Patriot Act and just the unfolding problems of the economy we're seeing with Dr. Ron Paul, the Congressman from right here in Texas.
00:00:52.000 We're honored to have him.
00:00:53.000 And then I've got three or four questions that listeners called in last hour that they wanted to address the Congressman, so we'll ask him those questions as well.
00:01:00.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us.
00:01:01.000 Thank you.
00:01:02.000 Good to be with you.
00:01:03.000 What do you think is most important right now?
00:01:04.000 I mean, what do you want to talk about, sir?
00:01:08.000 You know, in the scheme of things, I would say the ongoing war is probably the most important because it has concerns about our finances as well as the excuse for an intrusion on our personal liberties here at home.
00:01:22.000 Plus the fact that this war is different than any others because it was a preemptive strike.
00:01:28.000 I mean, we have changed policy.
00:01:29.000 I know we've been involved too much everywhere for a long time, but this was different.
00:01:34.000 So I would think the war is symbolic of a foreign policy that has changed and poses a great deal of danger to all of us.
00:01:44.000 Well, I agree with you.
00:01:45.000 And let me just add that we've got a mic open up there at the network.
00:01:47.000 We need to close that.
00:01:52.000 I mean, how long is this going to go on?
00:01:53.000 Now they're talking about how they want to go into Iran and Syria like it's a Ponzi scheme or something, where they're just going to endlessly expand it from one crisis to the next so we can never get our balance.
00:02:05.000 I'm afraid that is the case because the other day we had a resolution that we were debating on international relations and it was sort of a blame, who gets the blame for it?
00:02:16.000 And my comments were that uh... the majority on both sides still support the war the majority supports expanding the war and this pretends that all of a sudden That you want to blame somebody and embarrass somebody is sort of distracting from the real issue of why are we agitating and doing the same thing to Syria and Iran that we did to Iraq.
00:02:39.000 Well, I've said that to Democrats, Congressman Ron Paul.
00:02:41.000 I mean, I've said, well, if George Bush is so evil and his policy is so bad, which, I mean, obviously it is, why were Democrats some of the biggest beaters of the war drum?
00:02:52.000 Because, you know, there are two things going on.
00:02:54.000 There's a struggle for power, which is ongoing, and that's between, and these are legitimate fights.
00:02:59.000 Republicans against Democrats.
00:03:00.000 Who gets to hold the strings of power?
00:03:02.000 But, that is in the context, though, that both major parties and leadership in parties endorse the same foreign policy.
00:03:11.000 They have the same agenda.
00:03:12.000 And also, of course, they have the same domestic welfare policy and the same monetary policy.
00:03:18.000 So there's really no debate in that area.
00:03:21.000 They all believe in this funny money system.
00:03:23.000 So there are two different management teams bidding for the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated.
00:03:29.000 That is it.
00:03:29.000 They're bidding on who will run the show and who will manage the war.
00:03:34.000 So they will criticize each other.
00:03:36.000 Oh, you didn't do it right.
00:03:37.000 You went in too soon.
00:03:38.000 There are a few honest individuals on both sides.
00:03:43.000 And I'm very familiar with them because I get to know them.
00:03:46.000 But there are some Democrats we should respect because they were opposed to the Clinton wars and the bombing in Kosovo.
00:03:54.000 And they're opposed to this one.
00:03:56.000 And there are several Republicans like that.
00:03:59.000 So there are a few.
00:04:01.000 But unfortunately, The media, as well as the leadership in Congress, have been co-opted by the establishment, and the establishment is what's been beating up on the people here for a good many years.
00:04:12.000 It isn't this administration.
00:04:15.000 You know darn well it's been going on a long time.
00:04:17.000 It's just getting worse.
00:04:18.000 But it's been going on in a very determined fashion, especially since the Depression time.
00:04:26.000 Well, it really has.
00:04:28.000 In fact, I want to talk about the economy as well as the war, Congressman, and then I'd like to hear from you with your expertise on what you think legislatively is most important right now when we get back.
00:04:42.000 And I also want to get your take on a free speech ban in Crawford.
00:04:46.000 They arrested over 12 people this morning for peacefully sitting in the ditch.
00:04:52.000 So I want to talk about the State of the Bill of Rights as well when we get back.
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00:08:06.000 All right, we've only got about 12 minutes left with the Congressman.
00:08:12.000 And I've got about 20 questions for him.
00:08:14.000 Congressman, how far is this going to go?
00:08:17.000 I mean, if we get a Hillary Clinton in 08, she's going to be for going into Iran. 1.00
00:08:21.000 She's already said she is.
00:08:23.000 She meets with Rupert Murdoch every week.
00:08:24.000 I mean, you said in the last segment that the parties fight over power, but they have the exact same agenda.
00:08:29.000 They're owned by the same interests.
00:08:31.000 I mean, when does it end?
00:08:32.000 The very same crowd that lied to us Well, it doesn't look good, and usually it ends when either it financially fails or the people rise up against it.
00:08:40.000 death rays with EMPs and are going to kill us any minute and we're going to be in the stone age.
00:08:46.000 I mean, they're coming out with even more science fiction-esque baloney, Al, sir.
00:08:50.000 Well, it doesn't look good, and usually it ends when either it financially fails or the people rise up against it.
00:09:00.000 And I think we saw the end of the Soviet system for those two reasons.
00:09:05.000 It finally couldn't support itself, and the people just rebelled and didn't cooperate, and it just faded away.
00:09:12.000 So, that could happen.
00:09:14.000 Unfortunately, we're not quite at that stage, and there's a lot of power, and a lot of weaponry, and a lot of determination for the establishment to maintain order.
00:09:23.000 So, they're going in the other direction.
00:09:26.000 They're putting their back up to the wall, and they're saying, look, if need be, we're going to have martial law.
00:09:32.000 We've heard all these statements by the By the President and the Administration, why they need more militarism at the federal government to keep people in check.
00:09:39.000 So, nobody knows how this will turn out, but I do know that the only thing that we can do about it is try to alert the American people to what's going on so they can be prepared and put the pressure On the proper people to bring about changes in a peaceful manner rather than waiting for violence to break out.
00:09:58.000 We're also seeing all the other tell-tale signs and ingredients of tyranny.
00:10:02.000 Where in Crawford, Texas, twelve peaceful people sit in a ditch and they pass a law tailored saying, no, there's no protesting on the side of the roads, on hundreds of miles of road.
00:10:13.000 I mean, literally one car goes by every five minutes.
00:10:15.000 If you don't have free speech on the side of the road, then we don't have a free country.
00:10:21.000 No, and administrations or governments don't like to be embarrassed, so if we're at the point where the people are being informed and they want to speak out and express themselves, and it embarrasses the government officials, then they do crack down.
00:10:35.000 I mean, the extreme of this is, of course, the story that came out in the last day or two, that there were plans for our government to bomb Al Jazeera, because Well, as a matter of fact, I think we did attack at one time at the outbreak of the war, but they were about ready to bomb again.
00:10:53.000 And ironically, I think the British said, well, maybe that's too extreme.
00:10:56.000 Can you imagine that?
00:10:57.000 Well, Tony Blair was saying, Bush, I mean, having a talking down, this is our ally.
00:11:02.000 You have a military base there.
00:11:04.000 Yeah, it's almost like they're going overboard.
00:11:06.000 They lose their rationality.
00:11:09.000 And that's part of the reason why they usually fail, too, is they get overly bold.
00:11:13.000 And I think Our government is overly bold that they're invincible and they feel invincible with their finances.
00:11:21.000 They control, our government controls the reserve currency of the world.
00:11:26.000 They literally have the ability to print gold.
00:11:29.000 I mean, the world government... Isn't that starting to slide with China going to this basket of currencies and Europe with the euro?
00:11:38.000 I interviewed Paul Craig Roberts Another prominent conservative leader last week, and he said on air, Dr. Paul, Congressman Paul, he said that Bush, and of course Roberts is an economist, has borrowed more money than all previous presidents combined.
00:11:56.000 Yeah, and he's a very bright guy, and I read just about everything he writes, and I think he is right about this, that it is starting to fade, but for the time being, I think our government thinks they're invincible, And that they will have no trouble, even this new Fed chairman says...
00:12:12.000 No sweat.
00:12:13.000 We have the power of the printing press.
00:12:15.000 We just print all the money we need, and we can always take care of ourselves and revive the economy.
00:12:20.000 In fact, he's even more bullish on heating up the presses than Greenspan.
00:12:24.000 That's right, and I think he probably gave anybody who's investing gold, probably gave them a boost in their investments.
00:12:31.000 And actually, it's not a boost in investment as confirming the fact that the dollar is not going to remain strong.
00:12:37.000 But in the meantime, though, the world's still taking the dollars.
00:12:40.000 But you know, if we can notice it getting less so, that people are less anxious, actually, finally at the end it goes quickly.
00:12:50.000 Once the confidence is lost, Confidence is weakening now, but when a confidence is lost in the currency, boy, sudden and dramatic and catastrophic changes can occur.
00:13:01.000 And since the dollar is so pervasive around the world, I see this as a great potential threat to everyone.
00:13:07.000 Any ballpark on when you think you might see the collapse?
00:13:10.000 No, not really.
00:13:11.000 I think that's real hard, and Washington Economics teaches you that you ought not to try to make those predictions because... Do you think it'll be a slow slide or an implosion?
00:13:19.000 I think it'll be a slow slide for a while, then an implosion.
00:13:22.000 But I think it's capable of doing it right now.
00:13:27.000 You know, it could be like a sudden thing like long-term capital management.
00:13:31.000 You know, boom, it would happen.
00:13:32.000 It's a real estate bubble.
00:13:34.000 Yeah, that could be it.
00:13:36.000 But if I had to guess, I would still think it's a couple years off.
00:13:42.000 But the one thing I'm firmly convinced of, It will come.
00:13:46.000 I don't think... Well, I saw you outside Austin give a speech three years ago.
00:13:52.000 You predicted a 40-plus percent reduction in dollar value.
00:13:56.000 That did happen.
00:13:57.000 You predicted serious inflation.
00:14:00.000 You predicted a disaster in Iraq. 1.00
00:14:03.000 This is on the eve of it, and all of that has come true, Congressman, unfortunately.
00:14:07.000 Yeah, I wish my predictions wouldn't come true.
00:14:10.000 You also predicted gold would go up, and now it's right at $500 an ounce.
00:14:13.000 Where do you see it going?
00:14:15.000 Well, if we continue with our policies, there's no reason in the world why we won't see gold double in time, and if we keep it together and the dollar system works, then you're going to see it triple.
00:14:27.000 It's just a matter of time, because we do not slow up the printing presses, and all we can do is speed up the printing presses.
00:14:34.000 I mean, just look at what Greenspan did.
00:14:37.000 After the last stock market crash, you know, he took interest rates down to, you know, in real terms, down to zero.
00:14:43.000 Congressman, we've got about six minutes left.
00:14:43.000 Down to zero.
00:14:45.000 I want to just walk it through these questions.
00:14:47.000 Okay.
00:14:47.000 Of course, as a medical doctor, I know you're aware of the AIDS testing on orphans and testing on kids that don't even have HIV and the testing of chemicals.
00:14:56.000 And of course you fought the New Freedom Initiative for forced psychological testing and drugging under federal control.
00:15:02.000 Now there's an EPA rule change alert out.
00:15:07.000 And earlier in the break I read to you some of the subsections where they're talking about if the government has a foster child or mentally ill child or a disabled child that there is... because they've been getting criticized for this, now they're just going to pass a rule change saying they can test anything they want on kids.
00:15:25.000 I mean, it's getting so, so Twilight Zone, sir.
00:15:28.000 There's no doubt about it, and you know, I really thought that mental health testing and drugging was so evil and horrible, but this, I think, could even be a little bit worse when they talk about testing these kind of chemicals.
00:15:41.000 But that's just confirmation once again that we as a country have been careless and we've allowed our government to act as parents for the children, and in spite of the shortcomings of some parents, parents always do a much, much better job.
00:15:57.000 If there is a danger to a child and you have to deal with that imminent danger, It should be very, very local.
00:16:03.000 It should be churches and different things taken care of.
00:16:05.000 Well, even Time Magazine had a cover story three years ago that you're five times more likely to be abused or hurt in government custody.
00:16:12.000 It's the most dangerous place for a child.
00:16:14.000 That's just the numbers.
00:16:15.000 Yeah, and yet, you know, those individuals who vote for that in Washington, I'm not willing to say that they're all part of a conspiracy and evil and monstrous.
00:16:25.000 Some of them are just bleeding hearts and say, oh, I heard this story and da-da-da.
00:16:30.000 We have to help them, we have to take care of them.
00:16:33.000 Then they never follow up to find out what the results are.
00:16:35.000 You know, the results are so horrible, you'd think maybe a little bit of logic would convince them to rethink their position, but it doesn't seem to happen.
00:16:44.000 What about H.R.
00:16:46.000 Every year you introduce legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve, to get us out of the United Nations, and every year you get more co-sponsors.
00:16:53.000 Where is that going?
00:16:54.000 Not too well, and it looks like the way they've run things this year, I'm not even going to be able to get a vote on that.
00:17:01.000 1146 says get out of the UN.
00:17:04.000 Unfortunately, they sort of co-opted my position.
00:17:07.000 The Bush administration started bashing the UN and threatening the UN with cutting some of the funding, but it was all a game they were playing because they literally gave the UN more power.
00:17:19.000 In the name of a reform.
00:17:20.000 You know how to be weary of... Yeah, they'll do that to you too.
00:17:23.000 Give a stab to conservatives.
00:17:25.000 Oh look, he's after the U.N.
00:17:27.000 while meanwhile... I mean, it's total good cop, bad cop.
00:17:30.000 Yeah, and who do we have at the U.N.?
00:17:32.000 Bolton, the arch neocon warmonger.
00:17:36.000 And he's over there and actually what they've done is they've taken the neocon position on intervening on the internal affairs of other nations and Regime change, and they've institutionalized that in the United Nations.
00:17:47.000 Technically, the United Nations said they only dealt with border disputes, but now...
00:17:52.000 The U.N.
00:17:53.000 is in the business of restanding its global government prerogative through Washington's support and tutelage.
00:18:00.000 Now, Congressman, we've got to move really quick now, and I'm sorry about the interrogation tactic here.
00:18:04.000 Foreign troops, they've now set the precedent with Dutch and Mexican troops in New Orleans.
00:18:08.000 I've read federal government documents where they talk about foreign assets, quote, during martial law in America.
00:18:14.000 Your comment on foreign troops?
00:18:15.000 Well, obviously they shouldn't be permitted.
00:18:18.000 What I'd like to see is that we didn't have our troops in foreign countries.
00:18:22.000 If we needed a National Guard and they were back here at home, that's the bigger problem.
00:18:26.000 Then if there were foreign troops on our soil, maybe our state officials could deal with that with their own National Guard.
00:18:35.000 But does it even shock you to see that precedent set?
00:18:38.000 I mean, obviously, we didn't need Dutch and Mexican help, but they set that precedent. 1.00
00:18:43.000 No, we don't.
00:18:44.000 It's a horrible precedent and it's all part of the NAFTA scheme and globalization and world government.
00:18:51.000 Congressman, what have you found is an effective way to reach out to people, to break the eyes of people who aren't aware of what's going on?
00:18:59.000 Well, you know, that's a big job, and I think the most important thing is that those of us who promote our position, that we appear credible, and that we are able to defend ourselves, and that we have the facts.
00:19:14.000 I don't think the technique that we use is as important as being knowledgeable.
00:19:18.000 And then presenting the facts, and then if we are correct and on the right track, I think the people will come to us and say, you know, like today I had somebody who was furious with me for voting against the pharmaceutical drug program two or three years ago, but now they went to apply for it, and they said it was a monster!
00:19:36.000 And they came back and said, you know, you were right all along.
00:19:39.000 So I think this is the main thing, is to present our case and do it, and if it doesn't look like we're winning at that moment, Later on, somebody's going to pay attention and say, yes, you're right.
00:19:50.000 Congressman, have a great Thanksgiving.
00:19:51.000 Thanks a lot.
00:19:52.000 God bless.