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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:37.000 It's Thursday, the 17th day of November 2005.

00:00:40.000 I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:00:42.000 We're going to be here live for the next three hours.

00:00:44.000 We have a special in-studio guest coming up here in about eight minutes when we start the second segment.

00:00:49.000 And then in about 30 minutes, we're going to have Gregor Kreutzhuber on.

00:00:54.000 He's the big EU spokesman who is, in this article I have in front of me, from the London Daily Telegraph, EU setting up system of spy satellites.

00:01:05.000 This will augment the echelon system that the United States has set up quite nicely and tie into the EU's InfoPol 9 system.

00:01:14.000 So he'll be joining us coming up at the halfway point if we get all our time zones and things straight.

00:01:19.000 But I'm told the main EU spokesmen were quite honored.

00:01:23.000 I'm sure the NSA alarm bells are going off right now.

00:01:26.000 There'll be analysts listening to this before the hour's even over.

00:01:30.000 So again, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:01:33.000 A lot of serious news.

00:01:34.000 The USA Patriot Act reauthorization may include DNA database and a suspension of habeas corpus.

00:01:41.000 And I thought because we have a British TV crew here in studio with us today, we're going to be talking about peak oil.

00:01:48.000 And just the politics of oil, that I would read a British quote about suspension of habeas corpus, the power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and the foundation of all totalitarian governments, whether Nazi or Communist.

00:02:13.000 Couldn't agree more with that statement.

00:02:15.000 So we'll get into another expansion of the Patriot Act, as if the last couple of expansions weren't enough for you.

00:02:22.000 They're going to try to make the most police state facets, the worst police state facets of all of this, permanent and even expanded.

00:02:34.000 And I have an article here from the Organic Consumers Association.

00:02:37.000 They quote directly from the new legislation that is on the verge of passing right now.

00:02:44.000 And here's the headline.

00:02:46.000 Alert!

00:02:46.000 Environmental Protection Agency to Allow Pesticide Testing on Orphans and Mentally Handicapped Children.

00:02:53.000 Now we know that our government took coverage of mentally retarded children, black children, Native American children. 0.96

00:02:59.000 Seventh Day Adventist children. 0.96

00:03:01.000 Any small little minority they could target and radiated their brain cases, in many cases, until death.

00:03:08.000 And that's been coming out today in the news.

00:03:12.000 We're talking to the Associated Press lately.

00:03:15.000 But this is currently happening and we know that especially New York City itself takes the foster children and tests pesticides on them and experimental AIDS drugs on children that don't even have HIV.

00:03:31.000 And this is a holocaust going on in front of everyone, but because it isn't on the nightly news with Brian Williams, it's out of sight, out of mind.

00:03:40.000 Well, we'll be talking about that here today.

00:03:44.000 We are going to stand up for these little people.

00:03:46.000 And Bush, of course, is telling China right now to open the door to freedom, and that's the pot calling the kettle black in every way.

00:03:56.000 But coming up after this quick break, we're going to get into Peak oil and the politics of oil and how energy affects everything we do every day in our lives.

00:04:09.000 Obviously, a few months ago, what we already knew was confirmed.

00:04:14.000 Hundreds of pages of oil company documents were released and the oil companies have confirmed that these are legitimate, real documents.

00:04:23.000 These are Communications between the large oil companies forming their own cartel to systematically buy up all of the independent refineries and to restrict capacity at their own refineries to create an artificial bottleneck So they could jack up the price of oil.

00:04:44.000 That's just one facet of what we'll be discussing while we went to war with Iraq.

00:04:49.000 Politics of oil on the other side.

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00:08:12.000 Coming up in about 25 minutes, we're going to have Gregor Krutz-Huber, the EU spokesman, on, talking about their ultra-massive, big brother surveillance satellite fleet they're going to be launching.

00:08:27.000 Thank you.

00:08:28.000 With all of their, I guess, EU taxpayer money building their own empire, the rise of Europe and the destruction of, I guess, the population's freedom there, as well as our freedom, will all be surveilled by this.

00:08:41.000 It'll be a new NSA that rivals or even dwarfs that built by the United States, so that's coming up.

00:08:48.000 And then we're going to be talking to the folks from the Organic Consumers Association, environmental scientist Craig Monona, who we've actually interviewed before.

00:08:57.000 About a bill about to pass Congress to actually take foster children and mentally retarded children and test chemicals, biologicals, pesticides. 0.99

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00:09:14.000 The state is the guardian.

00:09:16.000 They literally have as much right as a veal calf in its feeding box.

00:09:22.000 And I know I'm radical because I'm against that.

00:09:24.000 I mean, just every day some new horror that's going on.

00:09:27.000 I mean, I wish there was some free country to run to like our ancestors did hundreds of years ago.

00:09:33.000 But there's not now.

00:09:34.000 This is a new world order.

00:09:36.000 You can't run from Germany to America.

00:09:38.000 You can't escape from Russia to the United States now.

00:09:42.000 It's here in America.

00:09:44.000 And that's, of course, what Paul Craig Roberts A high-level Reagan administration official said here on the show last week, that's what Ron Paul has been saying, congressman, that they're openly trying to set up martial law in a Nazi-Germany type slash Soviet system.

00:10:00.000 This isn't a joke.

00:10:01.000 This is really happening.

00:10:02.000 But joining us, riding shotgun, right through our EU guest that's coming on, is Simon Reeve.

00:10:11.000 And he is, of course, a reporter and a producer joining us from National British Television.

00:10:18.000 A lot of their productions also air here in the United States, and they're here to talk about peak oil and the politics of oil, and I couldn't think of a better day to do it.

00:10:29.000 Right now, in the Washington Post today, documents says oil chiefs met with Cheney task force.

00:10:37.000 We played clips of that last week where they just were lying.

00:10:40.000 Oh, we never met with Cheney.

00:10:42.000 No one with our company has ever met with Cheney. 0.97

00:10:44.000 That's ridiculous.

00:10:45.000 We just had Bush administration officials who resigned saying they were in the meetings.

00:10:49.000 Well, now those documents have been released.

00:10:51.000 Of course they were having these meetings.

00:10:53.000 Of course they were there.

00:10:53.000 Of course.

00:10:55.000 This set the policy for the next decade.

00:11:00.000 This is the blueprint for the next decade, literally the entire energy policy of the United States, the biggest consumer of oil and all of the derivative products.

00:11:11.000 And so they've been caught yet again lying, and we have documents where they've been colluding since at least the mid-1990s to artificially shut down refineries, buy them up, to create a bottleneck.

00:11:24.000 Because the old companies in their own documents say, we've got too much oil.

00:11:28.000 And the price is going to plummet if we don't artificially restrict the supply.

00:11:35.000 And that's exactly what's happening today.

00:11:37.000 The oil companies have their phony environmental groups out there running around telling everyone, and of course the oil company executives as well, oh yes, there's peak oil.

00:11:46.000 There's no oil left.

00:11:48.000 That's why we're jacking up the price on you.

00:11:49.000 When the truth is, Saudi Arabia, major new studies that have been independently verified, Biopetroleum geologist has about double the supplies they thought they had, so they could supply the entire world at its current usage, at its current rate, for over a hundred years.

00:12:08.000 And that's been independently verified and confirmed.

00:12:10.000 It's been in the Financial Times of London, just a score of publications.

00:12:14.000 All these independent petroleum geologists have looked at this.

00:12:17.000 And then of course we have 98% of Alaska He's off limits to drilling.

00:12:23.000 Sweet crude, light crude, you literally blast out of the ground at Saudi Arabia-type levels.

00:12:29.000 But that doesn't matter.

00:12:30.000 It doesn't matter.

00:12:32.000 These two points I've just made are small pieces in a larger, are very small pieces in a larger mosaic.

00:12:41.000 Just overwhelming evidence.

00:12:43.000 Smoking gun documents.

00:12:45.000 I want to thank Simon Reeve for joining us.

00:12:47.000 Simon, thank you for coming into the United States.

00:12:50.000 Well, thank you for having me.

00:12:51.000 It's nice to meet you.

00:12:51.000 You bet.

00:12:54.000 Just for the listeners out there, and for folks that don't know who you are, tell us a little bit about yourself, Simon.

00:12:58.000 Oh, well, I'm here to make a TV documentary about why Britain and America went to war in Iraq.

00:13:05.000 We want to know what people's theories are.

00:13:07.000 We want to know why we're now occupying Iraq with British and American troops, mainly American troops of course, and why American soldiers are losing their lives there.

00:13:15.000 Was it about weapons of mass destruction, as we were told?

00:13:18.000 Or was it about something else?

00:13:19.000 Was it about oil?

00:13:21.000 Was it about keeping the control of Iraq?

00:13:23.000 Was it about keeping control of the Middle East?

00:13:25.000 I'd be interested to know what you think.

00:13:29.000 Well, we know what happened, and people tend to get confused because they go, is it about weapon sales?

00:13:35.000 Is it about oil?

00:13:36.000 Is it about political power?

00:13:38.000 Is it about invading Iran and Syria?

00:13:40.000 Anytime the strategic elite, so the Anglo-American establishment, the US and Britain, and some of their financial backers in Europe, engage in a major geopolitical shift, It's done because it aids and helps more of their different strategic interests than it hurts.

00:14:01.000 And so we have PNAC, Project for the New American Century documents, written back in 2000.

00:14:06.000 One of them, Rebuilding America's Defenses, published September 20, 2000.

00:14:10.000 And the main author of that was Dick Cheney and of course the President's brother, Jeb Bush, 25-member elite board of PNAC.

00:14:17.000 And they say that we want Iraq For the oil, but to control the oil, and to use Iraq as a military launch base to then invade Iran and Syria. 0.84

00:14:28.000 And they went on to say in other similar documents, put out by the same group, that yes, Saddam is too strong, he can be too strong of a leader.

00:14:37.000 We want to fracture and balkanize and break up Iraq. 1.00

00:14:41.000 We want to really have endless civil war there. 0.95

00:14:44.000 We have Pentagon documents going back decades saying this, that the ideal thing would be broken up regional strife and different ethnic groups at each other.

00:14:53.000 That's the old tool of empire.

00:14:55.000 Julius Caesar 2000 years ago in the battle for Gaul, how he dealt with the French and the Visigoths, the Germans, today, how they played tribes off against each other, how they manipulated.

00:15:04.000 So divide and conquer is one of the main reasons, but certainly oil.

00:15:11.000 When they invaded Iraq, there was a conservatively $4 trillion in discovered, recoverable, quality oil fields.

00:15:20.000 Now, because of the doubling since then in oil prices, even though they've dropped a bit now, it's still over a doubling, we're looking at $8 trillion in oil.

00:15:29.000 Afghanistan has $3 trillion in oil now, in adjusted numbers, over $6 trillion in oil.

00:15:35.000 So, we're talking about, over now, Twelve trillion dollars total just in that region because of the increase in prices with Afghanistan and Iraq put together. 0.92

00:15:49.000 So there's your motive right there.

00:15:51.000 Certainly that's enough to get this done, but it moves permanent U.S.

00:15:54.000 military bases in the region.

00:15:56.000 We're talking about being there for decades and decades.

00:15:58.000 They're building seven major bases.

00:16:01.000 One of them will hold over 5,000 people.

00:16:03.000 That's a capital.

00:16:06.000 That's an imperial command base for their viceroys that they put in.

00:16:11.000 But George Bush, in the PNAC documents, and to his biographer, now in a published book, this is his biographer, this isn't like it's somebody who's attacking Bush.

00:16:20.000 Bush said in 1999, before he was gearing up to run, he said, I'm going to be a war president.

00:16:25.000 And because when you go to war, and he said, I'm going to go to war with Saddam, you can't be questioned.

00:16:31.000 None of your agenda can be questioned, at least for a time.

00:16:34.000 He didn't say for a time, he just said, no, they can't question me when I'm a war leader.

00:16:37.000 Yeah, Napoleon, Hitler, I mean, these type of individuals, when you are in a war, the people tend to rally around the flag, shut up, don't ask questions, do what you're told, we're in a war, you're either with us or you're against us.

00:16:49.000 Those were his words, weren't they?

00:16:51.000 He said almost those exact words.

00:16:52.000 You're either with us or you're against us.

00:16:54.000 He said that many times.

00:16:55.000 He said you're either with us or against us.

00:16:56.000 You're either with us or you're with the terrorists.

00:16:58.000 You're either with me and my government or you're with the terrorists.

00:17:01.000 And literally, he would criticize his administration on any issue.

00:17:05.000 Stuff that wasn't even terror-related, like please stop dumping toxic waste outside this military base.

00:17:11.000 We can't stop that and we can't let you in to investigate because it might give terrorist data.

00:17:15.000 You're either with us or against us.

00:17:17.000 Well, we can't release those Energy Department documents about the oil executives in there with the Vice President because you're either with us or against us.

00:17:25.000 And they've just systematically lied at every point.

00:17:28.000 So, just to be specific for people, it was a multi-faceted program.

00:17:33.000 Trillions in oil.

00:17:35.000 Number one, trillions and trillions in oil.

00:17:38.000 Hundreds of billions in weapons sales for Carlisle Group and Dick Cheney's wife on the board of Lockheed Martin and all these big aerospace giants.

00:17:48.000 It's about the hundreds of billions in just non-military contracts, construction contracts, rebuilding contracts.

00:17:54.000 And it's about setting up permanent military presence and moving the main force out of Israel, out of Saudi Arabia, into Iraq.

00:18:03.000 And it's also then about silencing political dissent here domestically and setting up a type of military state here as well, which a lot of congressmen and prominent, even conservative leaders are now saying.

00:18:16.000 So in terms of the oil, what I'm still curious about is whether you think the reason that the White House was so keen to get hold of the oil was because they wanted to provide extra money for their big friends in the big companies or whether they wanted to help the American people because the American people need oil to run their big SUVs and live their oil-friendly lifestyles.

00:18:37.000 Who's it for?

00:18:37.000 Is it for the people or the business?

00:18:40.000 Well, look at the people. 0.99

00:18:41.000 They're being raped right now. 1.00

00:18:43.000 Did we get lower prices thanks to the invasion? 0.98

00:18:46.000 No, we got over a doubling.

00:18:48.000 So we're paying twice as much per barrel of oil than we were on the eve of the war back in March of 2003.

00:18:57.000 But we have the answers.

00:19:00.000 We know the oil companies say it's about a monopoly.

00:19:03.000 But people tend to look at this wrong.

00:19:06.000 It's called artificial scarcity.

00:19:07.000 It's like diamonds.

00:19:08.000 Diamonds are really semi-precious.

00:19:10.000 But because there's a monopoly on them, you'll mortgage your house, you know, to get that wedding ring that's $10,000 or 5,000 pounds.

00:19:17.000 So it's artificial scarcity.

00:19:19.000 And we've got memos.

00:19:21.000 We've got the documents.

00:19:23.000 We've got the documents on that.

00:19:24.000 None of this is hidden.

00:19:27.000 By going into Iraq, they then secure those fields, and then oil is not pumped, so that then drives up the price.

00:19:34.000 And remember on the eve of the first Gulf War in 1990, they were complaining that Saddam was over-pumping.

00:19:39.000 Remember?

00:19:40.000 And OPEC was mad, because he was over... That's why they're mad at Hugo Chavez right now.

00:19:45.000 Over-pumping in Venezuela, with his sweet and light crew.

00:19:48.000 So when we get back, I can...

00:19:50.000 Elaborate on that question, because this is the key.

00:19:52.000 People going, well, there's less oil flowing out now.

00:19:55.000 See, they didn't want oil. 0.54

00:19:56.000 I've heard the neocons say that.

00:19:57.000 See, they're tricking us.

00:19:58.000 It's a lawyer's trick.

00:20:02.000 Government is best which governs me.

00:20:04.000 Wake up and smell the fascism.

00:20:06.000 Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.

00:20:09.000 What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?

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00:24:41.000 Now have some fun there.

00:24:42.000 We're being serious here with Simon Reeve with National British Television.

00:24:47.000 And during the break, Simon really did boil it down, instead of my 10-minute diatribe, they're putting a stranglehold on the oil.

00:24:57.000 Just like the oil companies in their memos that are now public say, we want to shut down refineries, buy them up, restrict our own.

00:25:04.000 to create an artificial scarcity to put a gate on it.

00:25:09.000 It's the same thing with Iraq.

00:25:10.000 By the oil not flowing, by going into all of the stands, Afghanistan and Uzbekistan, and by funding these governments, by not letting the oil companies come in or by limiting it, Then China and others don't get it, and you put a stranglehold on energy, which is everything.

00:25:29.000 So, that really is the main focus of what the Iraq War was about, is oil, the control of oil, and the control of who gets access to oil.

00:25:39.000 I mean, really, it would be good for the American people if our government stopped trying to monopolize the oil.

00:25:46.000 Actually, we would get lower prices.

00:25:48.000 We would truly have a free market, Simon.

00:25:50.000 Yeah, it's interesting what you're saying there about China.

00:25:52.000 I mean, I wonder how that really does figure in people in the Pentagon's thinking and in the White House, because China is obviously emerging as the new great power to rival America.

00:26:02.000 China is desperately looking for oil supplies all around the world.

00:26:05.000 I've been in some strange countries in the last year, and you see Chinese executives making deals with the governments there, desperately trying to get drilling rights so they can get their hands on what they need to fund their economy.

00:26:15.000 It's the same thing as America needs. 0.81

00:26:17.000 It's black gold.

00:26:18.000 It's oil.

00:26:20.000 I'm quite interested in that, the connection between the desire to keep a stranglehold and all, but also the desire to keep it for America.

00:26:28.000 And that seems to me quite important.

00:26:29.000 I'm just wondering, do you think that is also a major part of the reason to go into Iraq?

00:26:34.000 No, absolutely.

00:26:34.000 It's not just a desire to secure, it's a desire to control it, restrict the flow to everybody, but restrict it, the flow is going towards America still.

00:26:43.000 Well, we hear that the flow is going to America and the American people are getting it, but again, we've seen a doubling in price.

00:26:49.000 It's about scamming and ripping everybody off.

00:26:53.000 I mean, the reason you pay more in Europe for oil is just predominantly because of tax.

00:26:58.000 But I separate our government from the people.

00:27:02.000 Again, we have these strategic elites who openly are using our government and our population as an engine Basically as military enforcers for their international corporate aims.

00:27:16.000 So America always seems to get blamed in the final equation as if, oh, it's those wild-eyed, right-wing, imperialistic Americans.

00:27:23.000 They're out running around, thumbing at the mouth.

00:27:26.000 And no, it's just we're the superpower.

00:27:28.000 We've openly Uh, been lobbied.

00:27:31.000 We have an open society and these corporate interests have come in and bought up our politicians and they're using America for their corporate aims.

00:27:37.000 I mean, that's what this global government is about.

00:27:39.000 You've got the world and you've got the U.S.

00:27:41.000 as kind of the bad cop enforcer who goes around making the world carry out the aims of these private corporate interests.

00:27:47.000 It's not free market.

00:27:49.000 Who's the good cop?

00:27:50.000 The EU and the United Nations, who actually go along with all the programs, are actually created by the very same financial interest.

00:27:56.000 But they'll play the part of the good cop.

00:27:58.000 And you know what good cop, bad cop is.

00:28:00.000 One cop, hey, I'm your buddy and if you'll just talk to me and do what I say, Officer Johnson won't beat the living daylights out of you. 0.99

00:28:06.000 And then he comes back in and says, ah, shut up, I want to hit him. 0.98

00:28:09.000 No, no, I'm protecting him. 0.99

00:28:10.000 See, you can talk to me, I'm your friend.

00:28:12.000 But it's totally staged.

00:28:14.000 You know, in the next few years, we'll build those permanent bases.

00:28:16.000 Most of the U.S.

00:28:17.000 troops will pull out, and they're already saying it's going to be a NATO force that's going to be in there.

00:28:20.000 And suddenly, they'll take off some of the restrictions that have been, you know, most egregious to the population.

00:28:27.000 And the population will buy the fraud, and then you'll see the escalation dissipate.

00:28:32.000 I'm a foreign person.

00:28:33.000 Can you explain to me, do Americans still think, as they did in the past, of oil as being their oil?

00:28:39.000 You know how under Jimmy Carter, people started referring to our oil, even though it was in the Middle East?

00:28:45.000 Do people still think of it that way?

00:28:48.000 Well, Bush has about a 31% approval rate right now.

00:28:52.000 So most Americans don't buy into that whole mentality, but There is a group of people, even though they don't own any oil stocks and they're not, they don't work for Exxon Mobil or BP, they still, yes, they call them to talk radio shows and they go, our oil! 0.98

00:29:09.000 Them darn Arabs better give us our oil! 1.00

00:29:11.000 It's ours! 1.00

00:29:11.000 It's mine! 1.00

00:29:12.000 What, like it's just some sort of geographical freak that it happens to be thousands of miles away in the deserts of the Middle East?

00:29:18.000 Well, after it came out that they lied about the WMDs and it was all a fraud, by the way, that had all come out even before the war, I mean, that was in our news, Then they just started calling the talk shows going, yeah, it's a lie, so what, we need the oil, it's ours!

00:29:31.000 Literally, you can tune in and listen to it right now.

00:29:33.000 But the cost of that is American soldiers' lives. 0.99

00:29:36.000 Well, also, the buck-toothed white trash that are saying that don't realize that they're being exploited by these corporate criminals just as much as the Arab people are. 0.99

00:29:48.000 So it's amazing, we'll be right back, stay with us. 1.00

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00:33:01.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:24.000 We're now 33 minutes, 25 seconds into this first hour.

00:33:28.000 And we're going to continue our discussion about the politics of oil with our in-studio guest, Simon Reeve, joining us from National British Television, coming up here in about 10 minutes.

00:33:37.000 But right now, I am really honored, I tell you my producer just gets better and better guests, to have the European Union Commission spokesman, their main spokesman for industry policy, And he's joining us to discuss this new grid, this fleet of surveillance satellites.

00:33:59.000 EU setting up system of spy satellites is the London Daily Telegraph headline.

00:34:05.000 Now let's be honest here, let's be truthful.

00:34:08.000 Obviously England is part of the Echelon system.

00:34:11.000 It's just ultra-massive and tracks everything we say over any type of communication system, every email, every fax.

00:34:19.000 And so, at least on the surface, the U.S.

00:34:21.000 and England are hopping up and down, angry about this system that will also rival their GPS.

00:34:27.000 The European Union is building its own network of spy satellites, allowing Brussels to insure nations and private individuals are obeying its policies.

00:34:35.000 The multi-billion dollar system known as Global Monitoring for Environment and Security should be set up and running in about four years by 2010, a commission spokesman said on Monday.

00:34:46.000 And this is serious because the 15 EU member states plus Norway and Switzerland have now gotten together and are going to pay for this through the European Space Agency and launch 30 satellite level navigation systems designed to improve on Pentagon-controlled level positioning systems, and also to check, I guess, the environment, to watch what the farmers are doing.

00:35:10.000 Notice now the U.S.

00:35:12.000 has been letting Britain and Australia and New Zealand use its spy satellites to look down on the population.

00:35:20.000 But enough said.

00:35:21.000 Going to Gregor, and he is Kreutz-Huber.

00:35:25.000 We are honored to have the Commission Spokesman for Industry Policy on with us.

00:35:30.000 Sir, thank you for coming on.

00:35:32.000 Of course, you're an Austrian. 0.64

00:35:33.000 Yes, I am, but thank you for having me.

00:35:35.000 You're welcome.

00:35:39.000 Tell us, sir, about this new initiative and why it's upset the United States and England.

00:35:45.000 Well, first of all, I don't think it should upset the United States or England, because contrary to what this newspaper you just quoted from was saying, we're not really talking about spy satellites.

00:35:56.000 Our main focus is to better prevent, predict, monitor and manage natural disasters.

00:36:02.000 So this is about a satellite system where Europe is working together.

00:36:06.000 You might know that in the European Union we have now 25 member states.

00:36:10.000 For the time being a pretty one.

00:36:12.000 The Germans are doing what they want. 0.99

00:36:13.000 The Brits are doing what they want.

00:36:15.000 So it's not very effective.

00:36:16.000 So what we want to do is to use more the synergies working together in the European Union in order to, for example, in cases like the tsunami which happened as you all know in Thailand, Uh, one year ago, uh, we could be in a position to better predict these things happening or if they happen, uh, to give, uh, swift and quick responses in terms of, uh, emergency aid and stuff like that.

00:36:39.000 So, uh, uh, the Americans should not, uh, be worried at all.

00:36:44.000 And by the way, I can tell you that these,

00:36:46.000 Global European global monitoring system for the environment and security as we call it has been discussed between the European Union leaders and the United States leaders and President Bush some months ago and what we said is that it does make perfect sense that Europe is building up its capacities so that we can work together with the Americans in order to sort of also prevent global environmental crises which unfortunately are happening more and more often as Hurricane Wilma has clearly shown.

00:37:15.000 So these are fuzzy little sweet satellites.

00:37:19.000 Yes, exactly.

00:37:20.000 What we are talking about is that the European Union member states, countries like France, the European Space Agency, they have already some satellites up there.

00:37:27.000 The problem is that the data for the time being is not really reliable, yet the quality of satellite pictures is not very good.

00:37:34.000 Plus, as I said before, the cooperation, the exchange of data, the flow of information between European Union countries doesn't work properly.

00:37:43.000 And this is why we think It's much, much smarter to say we pool our resources, what countries in the European Union are doing, plus what we are doing on the European Union institutional level, work together and then get something out of it.

00:37:58.000 And the important thing is that we think that this is something which is good for European citizens because we are really talking about useful things you can do.

00:38:07.000 And if some disaster, I don't know, let's say a chemical plant If you have a huge accident or big fire, then you can monitor it by satellite and see immediately where, for example, toxic clouds are moving in which direction they're heading.

00:38:23.000 Yeah, Chernobyl type situation.

00:38:26.000 But Mr. Kreutzhuber, and of course you are the main EU Commission spokesman for industry, and so thank you for joining us.

00:38:36.000 You know, understanding this new program with these 30 high-tech satellites, So the London Daily Telegraph, would you say that they're lying when their headline is EU setting up system of spy satellites?

00:38:47.000 Well, I'm not saying they're lying, I think they're just putting a certain spin on the story, and as I said, this is not predominantly something the European Union would use for spying.

00:38:57.000 Don't forget that this is being very complicated, because the European Union is not like the United States, so we don't have a central government, so we can't spy on the European Union.

00:39:07.000 The European Commission isn't, well, I mean it is central to a certain degree, and of course with France and others Pulling back from total EU centralization.

00:39:17.000 I guess you could say it isn't totally central.

00:39:20.000 You're right.

00:39:21.000 I fully agree.

00:39:22.000 Central in many economic issues, but definitely not when it comes down to national security.

00:39:26.000 The European Union and Brussels headquarters don't have any competence.

00:39:31.000 This is something member states have, for example, their own secret services like the CIA in America.

00:39:38.000 We have none of that in the European Union.

00:39:42.000 Hubert, I have a question.

00:39:42.000 Yes.

00:39:44.000 What's the Bilderberg Group's position on this?

00:39:46.000 Sorry, the Bilderberg Group's position?

00:39:48.000 I have not the slightest idea.

00:39:51.000 Are you familiar with those guys?

00:39:53.000 Well, I know who they are, but they have nothing to do with the European Union.

00:39:57.000 Okay, alright.

00:39:59.000 I didn't mean to bring them up if they didn't have anything to do with this particular area of the European Union.

00:40:06.000 No.

00:40:09.000 So this article says that it's going to surveil the population and we know that the U.S.

00:40:14.000 and the echelon system with the Anglo-American alliance, but you think that's a good way to describe England and the U.S.

00:40:21.000 and Canada, Australia, New Zealand, they're using it to spy on their farmers and other people and to track them.

00:40:27.000 And I have seen little news blurbs about the E.U.

00:40:29.000 wanting to use satellites, I guess you wouldn't call it spy, helping the farmers.

00:40:34.000 I mean, are you going to use this for agricultural tracking?

00:40:37.000 Yeah, I tell you, I tell you that One of the applications we're going to use these satellite pictures for, I think, makes sense.

00:40:43.000 I wouldn't say we are spying on farmers, but what we are doing, as you know, the European Union is also paying taxpayers money to support farmers in the European Union.

00:40:53.000 But in order to keep them under check and see whether they're cheating or not, this tool is extremely helpful because they have to declare how much land they have, how many acres they have.

00:41:03.000 No, I understand.

00:41:04.000 That's why they just passed a law here.

00:41:04.000 Yes, sir.

00:41:05.000 Every farm animal has to have a tracker microchip.

00:41:07.000 he really has and is claiming therefore double the money he would be entitled to have, then we have a very difficult tool to check on that because, as I said, we are talking about taxpayers' money and taxpayers' money has to be controlled.

00:41:22.000 Yes, sir.

00:41:23.000 That's why they just passed a law here.

00:41:25.000 Every farm animal has to have a tracker, a microchip.

00:41:28.000 Are you guys considering that over there?

00:41:29.000 Not necessarily a microchip.

00:41:32.000 No, because we think it's much easier to just use the satellite photographs and see to what extent they are claiming the roundabouts of money, which is fairly simple if you have the technology.

00:41:43.000 The second example I could maybe tell you about is fishery sector.

00:41:49.000 And you know that we have huge problems in the European Union, but also in the States, that fish stocks are basically dwindling and disappearing.

00:41:57.000 So what we do is that we control fishermen, the vessels they are fishing with, in order to check that they are not overfishing.

00:42:04.000 And this can be done via the satellite system, which is, again, something extremely useful.

00:42:09.000 Oh, yeah, they're trying to implement that here, where they've got to have GPS in them and pay for it, and they're getting tracked.

00:42:14.000 Meanwhile, the Japanese trawlers can do whatever they want.

00:42:16.000 The other ones doing most of the damage are those big giant trawlers and just little bitty boats we've got can't even basically catch four or five fish now.

00:42:25.000 Exactly, but the way it works in Europe, we check everybody.

00:42:28.000 Big or small, it doesn't matter.

00:42:30.000 They have to obey the rules, otherwise they're out.

00:42:34.000 How many miles does that go off the coast?

00:42:35.000 12?

00:42:35.000 Well, normally it's between 12 and 24, and then the international waters are starting.

00:42:43.000 Now, sir, what about InfoPol 9?

00:42:45.000 Is this tied to InfoPol 9?

00:42:48.000 InfoPol 9?

00:42:49.000 What is that?

00:42:52.000 That's your echelon system with the EU.

00:42:54.000 Yeah, but as I said, I mean, whatever echelon system there might be... You know what InfoPol9 is, don't you, sir?

00:43:00.000 Sorry?

00:43:02.000 You've never heard of InfoPol9?

00:43:04.000 No, because this has nothing to do again.

00:43:06.000 We are talking about the civil use of high-tech satellites in order to serve people.

00:43:13.000 We are not in the European Union.

00:43:15.000 So these aren't going to be used for spies?

00:43:18.000 These aren't going to be used for frequency interception then?

00:43:21.000 Yeah, but this is a completely different board game.

00:43:25.000 The applications we are talking about is of course sometimes also you can for example also track people movements we had a huge problem with a lot of refugees coming from Morocco to towards Spain. 1.00

00:43:39.000 There you can see people coming which is helping to prevent humanitarian crisis, for example.

00:43:45.000 But again, this is where I'm saying this British newspaper has got it wrong because we are not talking about a spying system.

00:43:52.000 We are talking about a system of monitoring what's going on on our planet, especially in Europe, in order to respond better, for example, to climate change, to global warming, to environmental disasters.

00:44:03.000 So basically it's just to keep us safe.

00:44:07.000 Yes, it's about keeping people safe and responding and better managing disasters.

00:44:14.000 And for the rest, it remains to be seen.

00:44:16.000 But again, the European Union has no competence to spy on people.

00:44:21.000 We don't want to spy on people.

00:44:23.000 It's maybe countries in the European Union spying on people.

00:44:26.000 I understand, sir.

00:44:27.000 But this is not our cup of tea in England.

00:44:30.000 I understand.

00:44:33.000 Now, we're talking to the EU.

00:44:37.000 Commission's main spokesman, Gregor Kreuzhuber.

00:44:41.000 And Mr. Kreuzhuber, just in closing, I want you to be able to say anything you'd like to get out there and basically recap what you're saying or any points you haven't hit on.

00:44:50.000 But certainly, according to what I've read, several different articles on this, these are going to be used for not just GPS and not just photographing and scanning the populations visually, but also we'll be collecting different Different communications and feeding those back into different intelligence agencies in Europe.

00:45:11.000 You're saying this has nothing to do with InfoPol 9?

00:45:15.000 No, these satellites don't have anything to do with InfoPol 9 or Echelon.

00:45:20.000 The only point I'm trying to make, and I know that this is maybe not necessarily obvious on the other side of the Atlantic, how the European Union works, because again, as I said, we are not the United States.

00:45:31.000 So, many of these responsibilities in terms of intelligence, in terms of spying on people or not, is under national responsibility of France, of Germany, of Italy, and not here in Brussels.

00:45:45.000 And this is why I'm saying that what we are talking about here is... But they're all going to have access to those feeds, and they pool those feeds.

00:45:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:45:51.000 Yeah, but this is something they're already doing.

00:45:53.000 I mean, they have already satellites up there.

00:45:53.000 Don't forget.

00:45:56.000 No, I understand, sir.

00:45:57.000 I understand that we're already being spied on and being tracked and traced and controlled, and I know that InfoPol9 and Echelon are like Siamese twins joined at the hip.

00:46:04.000 Exactly.

00:46:05.000 So nothing new there.

00:46:05.000 I mean, as I'm saying, but this system is definitely, as I said, is definitely not a spying system in this sense.

00:46:11.000 I understand, but it's just more eyes in the sky.

00:46:14.000 Yes, but more eyes in the sky sometimes can be extremely useful for those people who, for example, are suffering under the disastrous consequences of Hurricane Wilma.

00:46:24.000 Getting food to people quickly, responding to humanitarian crisis.

00:46:28.000 I think these people who have been suffering under Wilma would be very happy to have some useful help at the end of the day.

00:46:36.000 Well, I appreciate all your time, sir.

00:46:38.000 So these are actually little warm, fuzzy satellites, kind of pink, little fur poofed out around them, floating around, kissing everyone.

00:46:46.000 Exactly, but in our case they would be blue and yellow because these are the colors of the European Union.

00:46:54.000 Little creatures, little plastic bead eyes.

00:46:57.000 Alright, listen, I really appreciate you joining us, sir.

00:47:01.000 And is there a particular website we should visit to go and see precisely what these proposals are?

00:47:08.000 Yeah, of course.

00:47:08.000 We have everything on the internet.

00:47:10.000 It's fully transparent, so people who are interested in this kind of stuff can go on the website of the European Union.

00:47:17.000 Uh, which is on www.europa.eu.int for international.

00:47:25.000 And there you find it.

00:47:27.000 That's right.

00:47:27.000 You guys have got the goddess Europa and we've got the goddess Columbia.

00:47:32.000 Exactly.

00:47:33.000 And our goddess is more powerful than your goddess. 0.99

00:47:37.000 I'm being sarcastic, just having some fun, sir.

00:47:39.000 We are having fun in Europe as well, you know that we like that kind of... You know my compatriot Arnold Schwarzenegger, who's running California, you know?

00:47:48.000 We are from the same country.

00:47:49.000 But I'm not as big as him.

00:47:51.000 You're not as big and powerful as him?

00:47:55.000 Not even talking about powerful, but physically.

00:47:58.000 But if he was a little fuzzball creature, what color would he be?

00:48:01.000 Pink?

00:48:02.000 He would be, I think...

00:48:05.000 Orange, if anything.

00:48:08.000 All right, sir.

00:48:09.000 All right.

00:48:09.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:48:10.000 Thanks for having me.

00:48:11.000 Take care.

00:48:11.000 Bye.

00:48:12.000 Bye.

00:48:12.000 I mean, give me a break, folks.

00:48:16.000 It is good.

00:48:17.000 It is helping the children, the flooding.

00:48:19.000 It will be quite good to track you with this new information system.

00:48:24.000 We love your new Führer, Arnold.

00:48:25.000 He will do well for you, the Gropen Führer.

00:48:30.000 I'm sorry. 0.93

00:48:31.000 My guess, I told you I had them on for 10 minutes, I had them on for about 12, because it was just too ridiculous.

00:48:40.000 Folks, this is admittedly a spying system.

00:48:43.000 We're having the famas.

00:48:45.000 I mean, none of us need this.

00:48:47.000 It's the same thing here in the U.S., same thing in England.

00:48:49.000 It needs to stop.

00:48:50.000 We have rights, folks.

00:48:52.000 And whatever happened to due process or innocent until proven guilty?

00:48:57.000 This is the ultimate surveillance society.

00:48:59.000 What did you think of that interview we just did, Simon?

00:49:03.000 I thought it was really interesting.

00:49:05.000 I thought it was really interesting.

00:49:07.000 I think we have a slightly different take on surveillance and close-deck TV and things like that in Europe.

00:49:13.000 We're much more used to it than you are over here.

00:49:15.000 I mean, Britain, for example, is the most heavily monitored and surveilled society on the planet.

00:49:23.000 We have surveillance cameras across the entire country.

00:49:26.000 And they're useful sometimes, but of course people do complain about them, because nobody likes being filmed 32 times when they're on their way to work at 8 o'clock on a Monday morning.

00:49:35.000 But now they're putting in face scanners, they've got cameras that shout orders at you, have you heard about those?

00:49:43.000 I haven't had any cameras shouting orders at me.

00:49:44.000 Winston Smith, get up and do your exercises now!

00:49:47.000 Big Brother has overproduced this year, the Ing Sock 2 encyclopedia will soon be delivered.

00:49:52.000 Airstrip 1, Big Brother doing a great job, Tony Blair fighting for king and country.

00:49:57.000 You're quite scary doing that, Alex.

00:50:00.000 Big Brother has overproduced this year, 460,000 pairs of boots, 996 million nylons, 276 billion cigarettes and choco rations.

00:50:12.000 What are choco rations?

00:50:14.000 I don't even want to know.

00:50:15.000 Have you ever read 1984?

00:50:16.000 Yeah, I have, a long time ago.

00:50:18.000 Get your choco rations if you're...

00:50:20.000 But what is that?

00:50:21.000 That's some sort of awful chocolate bar, anyway.

00:50:24.000 Some sort of Hershey's thing or something like that.

00:50:26.000 Well, it's not even real chocolate, see.

00:50:27.000 But if you say that, Big Brother will have you disintegrated.

00:50:30.000 I think Big Brother already has.

00:50:32.000 Exactly.

00:50:33.000 We should...

00:50:35.000 You guys have a different attitude towards Big Brother?

00:50:37.000 We love Big Brother!

00:50:38.000 We don't love it, but, you know, we haven't got a CIA in Europe.

00:50:41.000 We've got much more... MI6!

00:50:43.000 ...fluffy organizations.

00:50:45.000 In Europe, we can't organize anything.

00:50:46.000 We're incapable of organizing something like the CIA, so it's a lot less concerning to us.

00:50:50.000 Are you kidding?

00:50:51.000 The British helped found the CIA?

00:50:52.000 The British are different. 1.00

00:50:53.000 The British are behind every devious plan. 1.00

00:50:55.000 Sneaking, is it? 0.98

00:50:57.000 Good Lord, extremely sneaky creatures!

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00:55:04.000 We're here talking to our guest, Simon, and he's with National British Television, and he's here in the U.S., I guess he's done about ten interviews, he was saying, investigating what's really behind the war, what's really behind the politics of oil.

00:55:19.000 And Simon, you had some other questions?

00:55:22.000 I'm sure you've also got some of your own statements.

00:55:24.000 I'm sure you've formed your own view during your deep investigation.

00:55:28.000 I have lots of questions for you.

00:55:31.000 Should I do that again?

00:55:32.000 I have lots of questions for you.

00:55:33.000 Well, you see, I just moved studios, and I'm not used to doing this myself, so I'm screwing up.

00:55:36.000 Go ahead.

00:55:37.000 Well, you've got dozens of buttons.

00:55:38.000 This is the problem.

00:55:39.000 Hundreds.

00:55:39.000 Now, listen.

00:55:40.000 What I was going to ask is, I mean, from our side of the Atlantic, the impression we get, I think, of the situation in America is still that you've got so many young soldiers on the ground in Iraq, but it's still seen as being somewhat unpatriotic.

00:55:54.000 To question the motives behind the Iraq War.

00:55:57.000 Now is that still the case?

00:55:58.000 Or do you think more people are now prepared to stand up and say, hang on, I want to raise a point here.

00:56:02.000 I want to ask what the hell is going on.

00:56:04.000 Why did we go into Iraq in the first place?

00:56:06.000 Well, there's nothing more patriotic than criticizing your government and engaging in free speech, whatever those views are.

00:56:13.000 What is totally unpatriotic?

00:56:14.000 What is tyranny?

00:56:16.000 Something that we should run from, and Teddy Roosevelt and many other presidents have talked about this, is a government that starts saying, you agree with us or you're bad.

00:56:25.000 And is that what the government is doing at the moment?

00:56:27.000 They've been trying it, but it's not working anymore.

00:56:30.000 They're the ones feeding the troops into a meat grinder.

00:56:32.000 They're the ones that lied and put them in this position for their own financial gain.

00:56:36.000 And then they've got the gall and the nerve to, they've got the gall and the nerve to then look at us and tell us That somehow it's our fault that things aren't wonderful and glorious over there if we criticize or get involved.

00:56:53.000 All we're supposed to do is mindlessly grovel and worship whatever the new lie of the day is.

00:56:58.000 I mean, look, if we put up with these guys, the White House plan has been published.

00:57:02.000 They want to attack 65 countries.

00:57:06.000 I mean, they get up on national U.S.

00:57:08.000 television.

00:57:09.000 And talk about the Pentagon's new map and their new program and they list 65 countries that need to be invaded or attacked.

00:57:15.000 I mean, it is madness.

00:57:17.000 It's just total megalomaniacal power trip.

00:57:20.000 Karl Rove was attributed to telling the New York Times last year that, oh, we control reality.

00:57:26.000 It doesn't matter what you think.

00:57:27.000 It doesn't matter if we change the story day to day.

00:57:29.000 We are history's actors, so we actually control reality.

00:57:33.000 That's delusional. 1.00

00:57:34.000 That's mentally ill. 0.93

00:57:38.000 Isn't bringing democracy to dozens of countries around the world, isn't that a worthy project for a great power, a benevolent great power? 0.94

00:57:45.000 Well, first off, they said it was because he had rape rooms and tortured people and our government didn't bring democracy to the Middle East.

00:57:51.000 They helped train Saddam in 1958 as a CIA assassin. 0.79

00:57:54.000 They helped push the Ba'athists to make him the security chief in the late 60s.

00:57:58.000 They helped bring him to power in 79.

00:58:00.000 They funded him to attack the Iranians. 1.00

00:58:02.000 They said, we don't care, go ahead and invade Kuwait.

00:58:03.000 We don't get involved, April Gillespie.

00:58:05.000 That's all on film!

00:58:06.000 So they set him up.

00:58:08.000 Our government, which isn't the American government, it's his private interest group, Republican and Democrats, what they do is they go all over the world and they actually put dictators and thugs in.

00:58:18.000 So now they've shifted to, oh, we're putting democracy in Iraq.

00:58:21.000 That's more baloney.

00:58:23.000 They are putting in little puppet regimes that will basically be balkanized and fight with each other.

00:58:28.000 It's divide and conquer being practiced over there.

00:58:30.000 Look, do the defense contractors make more money where they're a year or where they're ten years?

00:58:34.000 We're going to be there ten years or longer because they make more money doing that.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

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00:58:48.000 Hello!

00:58:52.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 Well, that first hour blasted past us, and we're now into the second hour, and I'll tell you what I'm going to do.

00:59:23.000 Coming up in the next segment, My redcoat friend.

00:59:28.000 Just some fun.

00:59:29.000 That's what I call my buddies.

00:59:30.000 My two webmasters for two of my sites are visiting right now in England.

00:59:35.000 They're downtown.

00:59:36.000 And I just love teasing them calling them redcoats. 1.00

00:59:39.000 They like to talk about George Washington.

00:59:41.000 It's part of the general craziness.

00:59:43.000 But getting back to serious issues, folks.

00:59:46.000 I have here in studio with me Simon Reeve is with the National British Television Production Company that I've been interviewed by several times in the past concerning the New World Order, globalism, the movers and shakers behind the scenes and they're here today I'm making a documentary about the politics of oil for those who just joined us.

01:00:09.000 And they'd like to hear from you.

01:00:10.000 They'd like to hear your views.

01:00:12.000 In fact, you've got a chance of ending up on National British Television and some of their productions there here in the U.S.

01:00:18.000 So this is your chance to give them your views, your evidence, your facts.

01:00:22.000 About the politics of oil, why we went into Iraq, your views as an American, as a Texan, as an Austinite, as a Chicagoan, as somebody listening in San Diego right now, or somebody listening in Kansas City.

01:00:35.000 Here's the toll free number, and I'm going to ask callers to specifically talk about the politics of oil, or the politics of why we went into Iraq.

01:00:44.000 into Iraq, some of you will probably say, "Well, you mentioned this plethora of reasons we invaded.

01:00:50.000 What about Israel?

01:00:51.000 Also for their interest?" And I think that adds into it in a way, but I really think it actually destabilizes Israel and puts Israel at more risk, but the Likud party doesn't think so, and neither does the current party that's in power.

01:01:03.000 Sharon doesn't think so.

01:01:05.000 So that's another facet to all this that we haven't even discussed.

01:01:08.000 So here's the toll-free number.

01:01:09.000 When we come back from the break, we will take your calls at 1-800-259-9231.

01:01:12.000 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 Simon, you had a question?

01:01:21.000 Yeah, I'd like to know.

01:01:22.000 I mean, obviously, we've come from across the other side of the Atlantic and we have our own views on the situation in Iraq, but I really, as you say, I'd really like to hear from Americans, because my understanding was that Iraq was invaded as a result of 9-11.

01:01:34.000 Now, in the aftermath of that, the Bush administration said, well, there's the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, we've got to sort them out.

01:01:42.000 Is that still the reason?

01:01:43.000 Do people still buy that as the reason?

01:01:45.000 What do they think were the reasons Iraq was invaded well number one they have moved on to now saying it is a conspiracy theory it is an urban legend those are quotes conspiracy theory urban legend wives tale made up Rumsfeld they've all said this wolfowitz pearl others it was never about WMDs It was never about 9-11.

01:02:06.000 And then some days it is about 9-11, and some days it still is about WMDs.

01:02:11.000 And some neocons actually said they found WMDs.

01:02:13.000 I mean, it's schizophrenic, or more than schizophrenic.

01:02:17.000 It's like they have ten different personalities or something, and it's just become glaringly obvious that it's a fraud.

01:02:23.000 And Saddam Hussein did not attack us.

01:02:24.000 He was actually against Al-Qaeda.

01:02:28.000 He had a secular government.

01:02:29.000 It was one of the few governments Where there is actually a large Christian population.

01:02:35.000 One of his highest level officials is Tariq Aziz who was Catholic.

01:02:39.000 He was his foreign minister.

01:02:40.000 So none of this holds water.

01:02:44.000 It's just a complete fraud.

01:02:46.000 But there are still some people...

01:02:49.000 We all remember this.

01:02:50.000 For the first six months after 9-11, it was Bin Laden. 0.90

01:02:53.000 He's gonna get you. 0.97

01:02:54.000 He's the demon. 0.99

01:02:54.000 Dead or alive, we're gonna capture him. 0.99

01:02:56.000 And then Bush suddenly, in a press conference, said, I'm not worried about Bin Laden.

01:02:59.000 I don't want Bin Laden.

01:03:00.000 I'm not after Bin Laden.

01:03:01.000 And then the CIA put out reports saying, yeah, we don't want him now.

01:03:04.000 No, it's Saddam. 0.66

01:03:05.000 And literally, Bush instructed the media about eight months after 9-11.

01:03:09.000 Remember, he said, we're too much focused on Bin Laden.

01:03:11.000 We're building him up.

01:03:12.000 No, it's Saddam. 0.66

01:03:13.000 And literally, the news morphed In just a matter of days, we never heard about Bin Laden again, it was all Saddam, 9-11 Saddam. 0.92

01:03:21.000 So literally, and then they had polls, half of Americans in major polls thought Saddam had attacked us and thought he was Bin Laden.

01:03:28.000 And you talk to a lot of Americans and they literally, I'm not insulting my countrymen, we used to be the smartest folks around, you know, the highest test scores 50 years ago, but by design the government's done everybody down.

01:03:39.000 A lot of Americans can't find Iraq on a map.

01:03:41.000 They don't know anything about the world, nothing.

01:03:44.000 But they've got an opinion.

01:03:45.000 And that bin Laden Saddam guy, he's going down. 0.98

01:03:49.000 And so it's just childish, mindless propaganda, and it's failing.

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01:07:40.000 But before we do that, during the break we were talking, you were in another city in the U.S.

01:07:44.000 doing interviews, you got in a taxi, and what did the taxi driver say to you?

01:07:49.000 Well, the taxi driver said to us, and I won't attempt to do the accent, but he did recognize we were sort of vaguely English when we explained where we were from, and he said, uh, now England, is that where English comes from?

01:08:02.000 That's funny.

01:08:03.000 And we were quite scared by that, actually.

01:08:06.000 This man was in control of a half-ton vehicle.

01:08:10.000 I don't say this to be mean or elitist.

01:08:12.000 I'm not sardonic.

01:08:13.000 I don't go around thinking, oh, I'm so smart.

01:08:15.000 Oh, this is great.

01:08:16.000 Because I know a lot of yuppies and people that do. 1.00

01:08:18.000 They have pleasure that everybody's so dumb. 0.99

01:08:20.000 And they can manipulate them and laugh at them. 0.99

01:08:22.000 This is what the elites tend to do.

01:08:24.000 And I have handbooks in the Department of Education where they say that we're basically slaves.

01:08:29.000 We have to prepare them for the general, you know, underclass workforce. 0.97

01:08:32.000 We need to... They're too rebellious and too informed.

01:08:35.000 We need to simplify them for their own good.

01:08:37.000 You know, this is 50 years old.

01:08:39.000 And we've gone... You ought to do a program on this.

01:08:41.000 Talk about conspiracies.

01:08:43.000 But it's all public.

01:08:44.000 It's not a conspiracy theory.

01:08:45.000 It's a conspiracy fact.

01:08:46.000 It's a program of control.

01:08:49.000 Go back 50 years ago when they were saying this.

01:08:51.000 They're too smart.

01:08:53.000 Americans were number one in the industrialized world.

01:08:56.000 Way ahead of the third world. 0.99

01:08:57.000 Number one on average for reading, writing, mathematics, inventions.

01:09:01.000 We were just running around dynamos.

01:09:03.000 That's why 4% of the population had over half the wealth. 0.99

01:09:07.000 Well now, we don't have half the wealth anymore and we're fat, dumb and happy. 0.97

01:09:12.000 And I'm tired of even people who you think are educated and informed. 1.00

01:09:16.000 It's not even that they're stupid. 0.99

01:09:18.000 It's like they're mesmerized. 1.00

01:09:19.000 They're experts on baseball.

01:09:20.000 I think I can tell you scores from 20 years ago.

01:09:22.000 They're experts on professional football.

01:09:26.000 They're experts on how to act cool, or what beer is the most stylish, or what hunting rifle is the best.

01:09:31.000 They're experts on what cosmetics are wonderful, or who to go to to get breast implants, or what tattoo to have.

01:09:38.000 They're experts on all these petty things that the Hollywood culture has told them has value.

01:09:42.000 Being in smaller countries like England or Ireland or Germany, you're surrounded by other cultures, and you constantly are passing over lines in other countries.

01:09:51.000 So you have the understanding that, what, 70%, 80% of Europeans routinely travel out of their country.

01:09:57.000 But in America, I think it's only 20% do in their lifetime in some cases?

01:10:02.000 So it's a bubble.

01:10:04.000 It's really like a matrix microcosm.

01:10:07.000 And so I'm not up here lording this over and laughing at people with pleasure.

01:10:11.000 It's kind of a sad laughter.

01:10:13.000 I want people to start getting informed.

01:10:15.000 You know, they'll have all these views and they'll argue with me.

01:10:17.000 And I go, well, I have the whole company documents right here.

01:10:21.000 I mean, they admit they're lying.

01:10:22.000 They've been caught lying.

01:10:23.000 They say there's an overabundance of oil.

01:10:27.000 Mystery solved. 1.00

01:10:27.000 You're a lying piece of garbage, boy. 1.00

01:10:30.000 Rush Limbaugh told me. 1.00

01:10:33.000 It's the same thing.

01:10:34.000 Rush Limbaugh told me that genetically modified food is nutritious.

01:10:37.000 Well, the top scientists, the Nobel Prize winners, they've done the encoding and checked it in dozens of double-blind studies.

01:10:44.000 It's toxic.

01:10:44.000 It's poisonous.

01:10:46.000 That's what I heard him commies say.

01:10:48.000 Well, no, actually, I'm against communism.

01:10:50.000 I'm free market and pro-Second Amendment.

01:10:52.000 Bush wants your guns.

01:10:53.000 Well, then, I'll give them to him if he wants them.

01:10:55.000 And literally, they had a big study a couple of years ago, and 80-plus percent of American high school seniors didn't know who the vice president was.

01:11:05.000 It's very sad, but it's sort of inevitable when you get a country that becomes so wealthy and so content with itself.

01:11:11.000 America's so vast as well.

01:11:12.000 I mean, there was a whole Discover America First movement decades ago, and that's flown through.

01:11:17.000 Why would people, in a way, want to go abroad when America is so big and beautiful?

01:11:20.000 Now, I can understand that, but as a European, you would think that after 9-11, Americans would think, hang on a second, Problems around the rest of the world can have an impact on us here in America.

01:11:30.000 We need to take more notice about the rest of the world.

01:11:32.000 I'm not sure that's really fed through into the education system yet.

01:11:36.000 Well, and for hundreds of years, it took weeks or months to get here by ship.

01:11:42.000 It was dangerous.

01:11:43.000 So there was kind of a... We're isolated here.

01:11:47.000 And then even communities were in isolated areas.

01:11:50.000 But it's something people really should think about.

01:11:52.000 I agree with you.

01:11:53.000 Let's go ahead and take some calls.

01:11:54.000 Who's up first here?

01:11:57.000 Julius in Arizona, you're on the air with our guest from the UK, Simon Reed.

01:12:03.000 Go ahead.

01:12:05.000 Good morning, Simon and Alex.

01:12:07.000 Hi.

01:12:07.000 Good morning, Julius.

01:12:09.000 My take on this whole war on terror mess is it sounds too simplistic, but it's about control.

01:12:17.000 And how I describe that is there's a great book out that goes into detail about how Redos Energy of Argentina, it's a big oil company, They had a contract with the Taliban and the Pakistani government, and I think also Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan, to run a pipeline down through those countries and deliver petroleum and natural gas.

01:12:42.000 And now Unicole's got it, and the former VP of it is Mohamed Karzai.

01:12:47.000 I'll finish.

01:12:49.000 No, okay.

01:12:52.000 That's true, Alex.

01:12:53.000 But the important thing about the whole thing is, is that war was used to offset that contract.

01:12:59.000 That contract was legitimate and valid.

01:13:02.000 And at the G8 conference in July of 2001, the representatives of the Taliban were threatened by the major Western powers, told them that in Don Corleone style, you will deal with us and let us build your pipeline.

01:13:17.000 And if you don't go along with it, instead of us carpeting you with gold, we will carpet you with bomb.

01:13:23.000 And then magically enough, 9-1-1 happens and guess who did it?

01:13:28.000 Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban.

01:13:30.000 Well, I don't believe that for a second.

01:13:32.000 There's 10 to 20 trillion dollars worth of natural gas and oil products locked up in the Caspian Sea basin.

01:13:41.000 And I think this is all about control.

01:13:43.000 It all boils down to who gets to ride the shiny new bicycle.

01:13:47.000 Well, I agree with you, Julian.

01:13:50.000 Julian, let me just add this small caveat to that.

01:13:52.000 Magically, over 10,000 British troops and over 44,000 U.S.

01:13:57.000 troops were mashed into Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and on aircraft carriers in the weeks before I'm in full agreement with you on all that, Alex.

01:14:04.000 back Afghanistan on his desk two days before source MSNBC, Associated Press, Washington Post.

01:14:10.000 Just magically the troops are all staged.

01:14:12.000 Everything's running.

01:14:12.000 Magically Norad stands down in a guy in a cave.

01:14:15.000 Magically planes perfectly hitting Billings.

01:14:18.000 But I'm sure it wasn't in government.

01:14:21.000 We just have an official government plan called Northwoods to carry it out.

01:14:24.000 I'm in full agreement with you on all that, Alex.

01:14:27.000 To me this looks like premeditated murder, and I'm sick and tired of a government that thinks that it can get away with things like this, But Bin Laden was only CIA a few years before when he helped attack the Serbs.

01:14:39.000 He was acting on his own!

01:14:42.000 Yeah, right.

01:14:43.000 Well, look.

01:14:44.000 And I'm an Easter Bunny.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, there's three wonderful books, beside your movies, which are excellent.

01:14:49.000 For the 4% of the human race that still reads books, there are three books that are important to read.

01:14:55.000 One is entitled, A One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, by Carl Schwartz.

01:15:01.000 The other two books is Neocon'd and there's a new one out called Neocon'd Again.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, I've actually sent those around the world.

01:15:10.000 One of those things is like an encyclopedia.

01:15:12.000 Listen, thanks for the call, Julian.

01:15:13.000 I've got to move on to the folks to get calls, but see, there was an informed American.

01:15:16.000 Well, it's good to hear, and you've got an interesting take on the situation, on the general war on terror.

01:15:21.000 And I'm very interested to know if any of the other callers will have a specific take on why on earth America and Britain invaded Iraq.

01:15:28.000 Because I think we've lost, I think in many ways that's just become, that's become a running war, like, you know, in almost the same way as Vietnam. 0.61

01:15:35.000 We've lost the sense of why, well, why did we go there in the first place?

01:15:38.000 We're there now and we're fighting... Well, it's an urban legend, it wasn't about WMDs, because he said so.

01:15:43.000 I mean, there's the video clip, you ought to get it for your show.

01:15:47.000 Alex, your guest just asked a question about this.

01:15:49.000 well, you said that it was about WMDs and you were sure they had them.

01:15:52.000 He goes, that's an urban legend.

01:15:53.000 That's completely made up.

01:15:54.000 He's like, oh.

01:15:55.000 And so they start playing clips of him saying it, word for word.

01:15:59.000 I mean, and then he just sits there and goes, well, mm.

01:16:01.000 I mean, it's just amazing.

01:16:03.000 Rose in South Carolina.

01:16:04.000 You're on the air, Rose.

01:16:05.000 All right.

01:16:06.000 Your guest just asked the question about this.

01:16:10.000 The most simplistic answer was on your tape.

01:16:15.000 When Gary Hart came on the little snippet that in the front part of your tape saying, Who should use this incident to set up the New World Order?

01:16:27.000 Well, that, that, that is the whole main theme, Alex.

01:16:31.000 Well, that's right.

01:16:31.000 About three days after 9-11 on national TV, Gary Hart and the Terrorism Commission, Hart-Rubman Commission, got up and said we need to use this disaster for world government.

01:16:40.000 Well, let me tell you what's going on, Alex, in our area.

01:16:44.000 We have got, in South Carolina here, in the upstate, We have got, I don't know, they've been here about four years so it would have to be somewhere around the 9-11 incident.

01:16:55.000 I think we got distracted and they moved a lot of foreign people in here.

01:16:59.000 But we have got a lot of people, I've got four people who have built houses in the last two years in my neighborhood from the Ukraine.

01:17:08.000 Well, they seem to be very nice people, but we went up to Gatlinburg, Tennessee about a month ago, and we bumped into this fella, and he had the same accent, and I said, oh, are you from the Ukraine?

01:17:22.000 And the man got very hostile at me.

01:17:26.000 And he, and he, then he left and came back and he said, why did you ask me what was I from the Ukraine?

01:17:33.000 And I said, well you had sort of the same accent that my neighbor's got.

01:17:37.000 He said, I am from Belarus.

01:17:40.000 Well I did not know those people over there that was fighting among themselves, they're bringing over here and settling them into different communities.

01:17:49.000 Well, I mean, you're a nice lady. 1.00

01:17:51.000 If somebody gets in your face, you need to kick them in the rear end or whack them with a... Well, it just was amazing to me where they sell it, peddling different people into different areas. 0.99

01:18:00.000 Like, the people from Belarus, they're selling them a lot of stuff. 0.99

01:18:05.000 Listen, our government, we're all losing our jobs no matter what color we are in this country.

01:18:08.000 And there's globalist documents saying they're going to get rid of the middle class.

01:18:12.000 These people they bringing on here, Alex, does not like one another.

01:18:15.000 It's what I'm getting at.

01:18:17.000 The man from Belarus did not like the Ukrainians.

01:18:20.000 No, I understand.

01:18:20.000 It's designed Balkanization.

01:18:22.000 I understand, Rose.

01:18:23.000 Comments on that, Simon?

01:18:25.000 Yeah, Rose, I just wanted to ask.

01:18:27.000 It's Simon calling here.

01:18:29.000 Do you believe what the government has told you about the reasons for the war in Iraq?

01:18:33.000 Do you believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

01:18:36.000 No, I sure don't.

01:18:37.000 You don't.

01:18:38.000 What are you thinking in that show?

01:18:39.000 I'll tell you what, let's hold her there. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Rose, just hold over and then we'll go to everybody else. 1.00

01:18:43.000 We've got to go quicker with these calls, but we'll let Rose finish up on the other side briefly. 0.99

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01:23:01.000 Okay, Simon, you can now finish your question you had for Rose.

01:23:05.000 You were asking her what she thinks about the war in Iraq.

01:23:11.000 Was that the totality of the question?

01:23:13.000 I'm just wondering whether Americans in general believe their government, do they believe that Iraq was invaded because it was a threat to the United States because it had weapons of mass destruction?

01:23:13.000 Yeah, basically.

01:23:23.000 Just wondering what you thought about that, Rose.

01:23:26.000 I do not think it was on time of the weapons of mass destruction.

01:23:30.000 I think they have the power to be a global thing, and there's a few underlings under that, and I think we have a power.

01:23:40.000 People are vying for power.

01:23:43.000 The ones that's right under the rung of the tip-top people do not want to give up their power and hand it off to somebody else because they've got too much authority, and I think we're having a power struggle at the moment.

01:23:55.000 But one thing about the Iraqi war, we have got to get up a one-world religion. 0.98

01:24:01.000 We have got to go around denigrating and destroying other countries' religions because you cannot have a one-world religion with everybody with their own religion. 0.96

01:24:12.000 Well, yeah, Rose, I'm going to let you go.

01:24:14.000 Good to hear from you.

01:24:14.000 Thanks for the call.

01:24:15.000 But right after 9-11, coffee in and said we must have a one-world religion.

01:24:19.000 That will fix it.

01:24:20.000 Can you imagine a world state-run religion?

01:24:23.000 I think we've heard of that in the Book of Revelation.

01:24:25.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Linda. 0.96

01:24:27.000 Linda, where are you calling us from?

01:24:29.000 Kansas City area.

01:24:31.000 Welcome!

01:24:32.000 Yeah, good morning gentlemen.

01:24:34.000 Good morning.

01:24:36.000 I am totally, it took me a while to figure out that the 9-11 wars were contrived.

01:24:48.000 Contrived?

01:24:49.000 You mean contrived by who?

01:24:52.000 I can't totally tell you contrived by who, but the uh... You just know the official story's got more holes in it than a sieve.

01:25:03.000 Uh-huh.

01:25:05.000 The official story does not jive with the facts.

01:25:10.000 So you don't believe it when your government tells you Osama Bin Laden was behind the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

01:25:17.000 Osama... Bin Laden.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, uh, Ben Forgotten, yeah.

01:25:22.000 Osama Ben Forgotten?

01:25:23.000 You haven't forgotten his name, have you?

01:25:25.000 No, no, no, Ibn Zubayn.

01:25:26.000 No, no, but this country's forgotten his name.

01:25:28.000 She said Osama Ben Forgotten, yeah.

01:25:31.000 This country's forgotten his name, it's funny.

01:25:34.000 How has that happened?

01:25:36.000 Because I thought the invasion of Iraq was really as a consequence of 9-11.

01:25:40.000 It's extraordinary how the focus has shifted from the people who were held responsible for 9-11 So these people in Iraq, who as we know, didn't really seem to have anything to do with 9-11 at all.

01:25:51.000 Well, that would have been like if Germany would have been blitzing London in 1941, 1942, and England said, we're not going to bomb them, we're going to go bomb North Africa, or we're going to go bomb Russia.

01:26:06.000 It's just no connection to reality.

01:26:09.000 Yes, and remember, Donald Hussein was our pit bull from the CIA here.

01:26:16.000 Until it got out of control.

01:26:19.000 And we had to go in there for the WMDs. 0.60

01:26:25.000 And where are the people who brought it in?

01:26:29.000 It's called depleted uranium.

01:26:32.000 Exactly, thanks for the call.

01:26:33.000 Yeah, depleted uranium.

01:26:34.000 We've now salted the earth or something with a four and a half billion year half-life.

01:26:37.000 Let's talk now to Denny in Pennsylvania.

01:26:40.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

01:26:41.000 Good day to you, Alex, and good day to you, Simon.

01:26:44.000 The reason I'm calling is first to pay you I'm a vet.

01:26:48.000 I've seen a little bit in my lifetime.

01:26:51.000 I'm 61 years of age at the present time.

01:26:54.000 Make a long story short, I didn't wake up spiritually until around 1981 when I received Christ as my personal Savior.

01:27:04.000 I knew there was a rat in the pack and something stank and I found out it was me.

01:27:08.000 And then I saw politically what was going on.

01:27:11.000 I was in Texas in 1964 when JFK was assassinated.

01:27:15.000 To make a long story short, in early 2000, before I started listening to you, I listened to a man who gave me a lot of information that he has passed on to you and to others.

01:27:26.000 His name was William Cooper.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, Bill Cooper.

01:27:30.000 I don't know the details.

01:27:31.000 I know that he was taken out by the IRS.

01:27:33.000 Maybe you can comment on that later.

01:27:35.000 But he filled me in on a lot of tremendous information, and here's the question.

01:27:40.000 The question is this.

01:27:42.000 In 1964, George Bush Sr.

01:27:44.000 was in charge of the CIA when JFK was assassinated in Dallas.

01:27:49.000 JFK was killed almost three years ago in 1963 in Dealey Plaza.

01:27:54.000 What I'm saying is that George Bush Sr.

01:27:58.000 was the head of the CIA.

01:28:00.000 He became the head of the CIA in the early 1970s, but he clearly was a CIA asset in 1960.

01:28:05.000 He was one of the top men.

01:28:07.000 He was one of the top men.

01:28:08.000 The question is, the point that I'm trying to bring across, William Cooper had it documented that John F. Kennedy, and I didn't go along with John F. Kennedy's morals, but I respected him as a man who was a real patriot.

01:28:20.000 He wanted to go back to constitutional gold money.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:28:25.000 He signed the executive order.

01:28:27.000 Yes, that is correct.

01:28:28.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:29.000 We'll come back and talk more about the politics of oil when we get back.

01:28:31.000 We're on the march.

01:28:32.000 The empire's on the run.

01:28:33.000 He was taken out.

01:28:34.000 Yes, that is correct.

01:28:34.000 Is that correct?

01:28:37.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:38.000 We'll come back and talk more about the politics of oil when we get back.

01:28:41.000 We're on the march.

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01:32:33.000 The government's openly passing a law where when they grab your child and your child's in their custody, they can kill them.

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01:32:43.000 And then they've already been doing it. 0.86

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01:33:03.000 I actually have the bill here in front of me.

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01:33:14.000 And they just passed a new freedom initiative for forced psychological testing and then forced drugging.

01:33:19.000 Of every school-aged child in America, that is forced psychological testing.

01:33:22.000 And then they can try to force people on drugs.

01:33:22.000 That's everybody.

01:33:24.000 And the big drug company documents came out.

01:33:28.000 And the drug company documents said that we're going to double.

01:33:32.000 We're going to go from 10% on these drugs to 50% on these drugs, or half.

01:33:37.000 But going back to our guest, we're talking about oil, politics of oil, the Iraq War.

01:33:43.000 Before we go back to these calls here and wrap this up, Simon, the British people, they, your government, part and parcel, Tony Blair, I believe is called by the Brits now, the poodle, Bush's poodle, but really they just work for the same interests, they're both puppets and the evidence shows that.

01:33:59.000 I mean, what now has been the metamorphosis of understanding and political views in England about the war?

01:34:04.000 I mean, why do you think we're there now?

01:34:06.000 I think the views of the British public have changed fairly dramatically, but the Brits were never fully behind the war.

01:34:15.000 There was never a majority that really thought invading Iraq was a bad idea.

01:34:19.000 Effectively we were led, much more than you guys were over here, we were led by Blair into backing our soldiers.

01:34:26.000 Um, so, public opinion has changed, it's gone further against the war.

01:34:31.000 You've seen huge demonstrations in London against the war.

01:34:34.000 But see, I disagree with that.

01:34:35.000 It doesn't back the soldiers to throw them off a cliff.

01:34:39.000 If somebody's throwing soldiers off a cliff, or cutting their heads off, and they're sawing the head off, there's blood spraying, and, please stop cutting the soldier's head off, you don't support him?

01:34:47.000 No, I would agree with you, but I think, in general, Politicians, one of their main aims when a conflict is brewing or a conflict is starting, they know that they have to get the public on their side.

01:35:00.000 And the means they get them on their side is by saying, the troops need your support.

01:35:04.000 I wasn't disagreeing with you.

01:35:05.000 We're in agreement.

01:35:06.000 Yeah, I'm saying I disagree with that little... That mentality, that way of doing things is obviously, yeah... I mean, literally, if I had a... It leads to thousands of deaths, as we're seeing in Iraq now.

01:35:16.000 You're seeing a couple of thousand American troops dying.

01:35:18.000 Perhaps by the time the Iraq crisis is over, there'll be more American soldiers killed in Iraq than there were civilians killed in the Twin Towers.

01:35:26.000 It's not impossible.

01:35:27.000 Well, it's amazing, and it...

01:35:30.000 All it's done is energize hatred in the Middle East. 0.72

01:35:32.000 It's actually... a lot of top generals have said that this is actually creating real terrorists.

01:35:38.000 No, I've traveled quite extensively in the last few years and I can absolutely assure you there is a... America's image around the world now is the lowest that I... well, the poll shows the lowest it's ever been.

01:35:49.000 I don't think anyone would dispute that, but certainly you're seeing more terrorist groups developing, you're seeing more militant groups developing.

01:35:55.000 It's not as though there was one finite group of individuals who could be hunted down and killed, or caught by President Bush's posse.

01:36:03.000 It's an infinite sum, effectively, because they're energized, and they're encouraged, and they're militarized by the conflict in Iraq, and you look at a country like Saudi Arabia, you've got Hundreds of young men in Saudi Arabia.

01:36:15.000 I was in Saudi last year.

01:36:16.000 Hundreds of young men have left their villages and gone north to fight in Iraq.

01:36:20.000 Now, they weren't members of Al-Qaeda or any particular militant organization before the Iraq War, but it seems that they're becoming so now. 0.96

01:36:26.000 But Rumsfeld isn't as dumb as you'd like us to believe. 0.88

01:36:29.000 Are you aware of P-2-O-G? 1.00

01:36:31.000 P-2-O-G?

01:36:32.000 Go on.

01:36:33.000 It's a Pentagon working group.

01:36:34.000 Before the war, they said, we're actually going to create more resistance.

01:36:37.000 Then when they fight us and intensify their resistance, then we have a pretext to widen the war.

01:36:42.000 It's very cynical.

01:36:43.000 Very, very dark.

01:36:45.000 Very, very evil.

01:36:47.000 What you've got in America, it seems to me, you've got warriors from the Cold War who are still running policy now that the Cold War is over.

01:36:54.000 I'm not sure they've been able to adjust to this change.

01:36:56.000 They still think that a threat has to come from a nation like the Soviet Union.

01:37:00.000 Exactly.

01:37:00.000 No, listen, I agree with you.

01:37:03.000 They even have white paper saying, Mark, we're done with the Cold War.

01:37:06.000 We've got to move on and make money somewhere else and make sure these Arabs are a pushover. 1.00

01:37:10.000 Let's go have fun with them.

01:37:11.000 And it's really cynical.

01:37:12.000 Of course, I'm sure you know that in the 50s, in the name of fighting communism, our government actually went in and radicalized the Muslims. 0.51

01:37:19.000 Sure, it was a means of providing troops for the battle against the evil empire.

01:37:22.000 And at the time, you know, yeah, the Soviet Union was a huge threat to us all, of course. 0.78

01:37:26.000 Yeah, but see, notice, I don't think it's blowback.

01:37:30.000 The evidence shows that... You think it was deliberate?

01:37:33.000 Well, I mean, we have the poor person who's misguided and goes and blows up other poor people.

01:37:40.000 That individual may not be an MI6 agent, or a CIA agent, or a Shin Bet agent, but it's been in the Israeli papers, it's been in our papers, it's been in the British papers.

01:37:50.000 It leads back to Western intelligence.

01:37:52.000 It leads back to funding.

01:37:54.000 It's like Operation Gladio, predominantly there in Italy, where our government would go and hire right-wingers to go blow up stuff and then blame it on the Communists.

01:38:02.000 Now again, I'm no fan of the Communists.

01:38:03.000 They pulled the same type of stuff, but just because they do that doesn't mean we can go do that.

01:38:08.000 And then pretty soon you're funding terrorists just so your defense contractor can sell weapons.

01:38:15.000 Literally manufacturing and paying for the threat.

01:38:18.000 They have to have this threat.

01:38:20.000 Our entire economy is now based on it. 0.93

01:38:21.000 It's a destructive, parasitic economy.

01:38:24.000 Let's go ahead and take some calls here. 0.72

01:38:28.000 Who's up next?

01:38:29.000 I guess John?

01:38:31.000 John, where are you calling us from?

01:38:32.000 Las Vegas.

01:38:33.000 Welcome.

01:38:34.000 Hi Alex, hi Simon.

01:38:35.000 Good afternoon.

01:38:36.000 Good afternoon.

01:38:37.000 Two quick points.

01:38:38.000 The first one, Bush shouldn't be saying we need to spread democracy because in the United States we're supposed to live in a constitutionally limited representative republic.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:38:50.000 In a democracy of 51% of people say, we're going to rob those Amish and take their land. 0.98

01:38:55.000 You can't do it because those Amish, or blacks, or Jews, or Germans, or whatever little minority group it is, they have as much rights as the majority.

01:39:03.000 These are incontrovertible, inalienable rights that cannot be violated.

01:39:08.000 And you notice our politicians keep drumming, democracy, democracy, democracy.

01:39:11.000 That's a mob who doesn't know how many continents there are, or what their middle name is.

01:39:16.000 That is literally a mob that they can just manipulate.

01:39:20.000 Now, to the peak oil scam, the recent statement about Kuwait having an oil reserve reduction is about convincing the world that the peak oil is actually a reality.

01:39:31.000 And in fact, the Russians have developed the deep oil drilling wells techniques for abiotic oil from the Earth's mantle.

01:39:39.000 Well, Saudi just came out and said we have double the oil reserves.

01:39:43.000 We thought we had.

01:39:45.000 Correct, and one last final point is, with Lindsay Williams, the energy non-crisis, we have on Gull Island in Alaska, we have two known oil reserves that we would be awash in oil, we wouldn't need to take oil from any other country in the world.

01:40:01.000 It's all about controlling and shorting the amount of oil that comes out, so that we pay more at the pump, so that the oil companies and the globalists actually make more money off of our back.

01:40:12.000 So, John, can I just ask him, what's your theory then about the causes of the Gulf War, the Iraq War?

01:40:18.000 Why did America invade Iraq then?

01:40:21.000 I think it's primarily to stop the oil from flowing at the rate that Saddam wanted it.

01:40:25.000 I think Saddam, number one, wanted to use the Euro as the backed dollar for purchasing oil.

01:40:33.000 I think Saddam was going to allow the wells to flow Crazy. 0.91

01:40:38.000 And if you look at what's going on with Hugo Chavez, he's been saying, hey, I'll supply the United States with lots of cheap oil, and what have you got? 0.61

01:40:46.000 You've got Pat Robertson and others saying we need to assassinate the guy.

01:40:49.000 Well, if he winds up giving too much oil for too cheap a price, you're going to see something happen in Venezuela.

01:40:58.000 You'll be basically in the same boat in Venezuela as you are in Iraq. 0.80

01:41:02.000 I agree with it.

01:41:03.000 It's to absolutely control the flow of oil.

01:41:06.000 And peak oil is pretty much a well-proven scam.

01:41:10.000 Alex pointed it out on George Nori's show very well.

01:41:13.000 And I get a copy of that transcript and put that into your documentary.

01:41:18.000 Thank you.

01:41:19.000 So just to summarize then, your view is really that the war in Iraq was about oil and it was about oil for the benefit of big business.

01:41:28.000 For globalist business and solely for their benefit.

01:41:32.000 So you don't buy the line from the White House about WMDs or anything like that?

01:41:36.000 Well, the only weapons of mass destruction are the ones that we have been using like white phosphorus and other things.

01:41:42.000 Well, D, you dwarfed that.

01:41:44.000 Look, it's simple.

01:41:45.000 It's not our opinion.

01:41:47.000 And I appreciate your call.

01:41:48.000 It's not our opinion.

01:41:50.000 We know why they did it.

01:41:51.000 They have told us in the PENAC documents.

01:41:54.000 Trillions in oil.

01:41:54.000 Weapon sales.

01:41:56.000 It's about using Iraq as a military launch base. 0.79

01:41:58.000 And it's about being able to silence domestic dissent on a host of issues.

01:42:03.000 And the P-Act says that, and then President Bush told his biographer that.

01:42:07.000 I'm going to be a wartime president.

01:42:08.000 When I'm a wartime president, my whole domestic agenda cannot be questioned.

01:42:13.000 And I'm going to go get Saddam Hussein. 0.99

01:42:16.000 Now he said that in 99 to his biographer, then he goes out on national TV during the election, oh no, I don't want any foreign invasions and foreign entanglements.

01:42:23.000 The whole time they were preparing to invade Iraq.

01:42:26.000 While lying to the public and then magically the Pearl Harbor event they needed showed up.

01:42:31.000 PNAC says we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event.

01:42:34.000 Imagine the President's boys are going, we need a Pearl Harbor event.

01:42:37.000 Now new White House documents have come out where they're saying the same thing.

01:42:40.000 We need a terrorist attack to get things back on the rails.

01:42:45.000 So this is happening.

01:42:48.000 I mean, I guess you had that final question for me, and we'll take a few final calls here.

01:42:52.000 Why are we invading these countries?

01:42:55.000 Why are we in Iraq?

01:42:56.000 And it's not one thing.

01:42:59.000 It's a whole agenda.

01:43:00.000 This serves an entire agenda that really is global empire.

01:43:04.000 But if we reduce it down to it's America's empire, that's false.

01:43:08.000 There are international financial institutions, I mean, of the 100 biggest economies, 44 of them are corporations.

01:43:17.000 And these guys have strategic alliances.

01:43:20.000 They go to large business meetings.

01:43:22.000 They're white papers.

01:43:23.000 Many of them are public.

01:43:24.000 And they're saying, we want one world government.

01:43:26.000 But that's a one world government that sits above the nation state and literally extracts the wealth from the people, controls the people, and social engineers the people.

01:43:34.000 These corporations, I'm free market, but these aren't free market corporations.

01:43:39.000 A very small part of what they do is that.

01:43:41.000 It's steering economies.

01:43:43.000 It's corporate welfare.

01:43:44.000 And so that's what this is really all about.

01:43:47.000 It's like when Bush kept saying, well this will legitimize the U.N.

01:43:49.000 and the U.N.

01:43:50.000 will do this and get behind invading and this will really show you, you know, nation building.

01:43:55.000 It's just pure evil.

01:43:56.000 Really, it's just neo-colonialism.

01:43:59.000 But we, the people who are in the classic imperial countries, need to stop thinking of ourselves as part of the empire.

01:44:05.000 We're just cannon fodder.

01:44:07.000 I mean, we're nothing in this empire.

01:44:09.000 We're nothing.

01:44:11.000 We're going to be just as enslaved as those Iraqis. 1.00

01:44:15.000 Let's take a call from Erin in Texas.

01:44:17.000 Erin, you're on the air.

01:44:17.000 Go ahead.

01:44:18.000 Hi, Alex.

01:44:19.000 How you doing?

01:44:21.000 Good.

01:44:22.000 Good afternoon.

01:44:23.000 Good afternoon.

01:44:25.000 As far as the whole reason why we're in Iraq, first one is because we're naive.

01:44:32.000 We've been pampered this whole time and now people aren't going to listen because they're afraid of the truth.

01:44:38.000 They're happy with their useless style of bills, their SDVs, their lying president, and if a few soldiers have to die, that's fine by them as long as they feel safe.

01:44:49.000 That's why I think we're in Iraq. 0.90

01:44:52.000 For Bush, for money, and secondly, a whole generation is going to be wiped out because of this war.

01:45:01.000 And then no one's going to be left to vote?

01:45:02.000 I mean, it is about genocide against the Arabs.

01:45:02.000 Well, that's right.

01:45:05.000 Madeleine Albright, back in 97, they said, oh, 700,000 dead Iraqis, half a million kids.

01:45:10.000 Is that a good price to pay?

01:45:11.000 She said, yes, good price to pay.

01:45:13.000 I mean, picture that.

01:45:14.000 Seven football stadiums, five football stadiums that hold 100,000 people of dead children.

01:45:20.000 And that bag of pus gets up on TV and says it's a good price to pay.

01:45:25.000 I'm sorry, go ahead. 0.83

01:45:28.000 But I just personally think he needs to get the hell out of here, and we need to do something else, you know?

01:45:33.000 Alright, I hear you.

01:45:34.000 I appreciate the call. 0.98

01:45:34.000 But, you know, Bush is just a puppet. 0.98

01:45:36.000 They'll put in a Democrat.

01:45:38.000 I mean, Hillary and Bill Clinton were for the war.

01:45:40.000 Now they're trying to back off because support's imploding.

01:45:43.000 Chuckie Schumer and the Democratic leadership were all going along with it, and now they act like they weren't.

01:45:48.000 And don't forget, we attacked Serbia for absolutely no reason.

01:45:51.000 I mean, that was all staged.

01:45:53.000 There'd be one guy with a disease trying to get into the food pantry at the barbed wire, and they go, look, he's behind barbed wire!

01:46:00.000 That's all been proven to be totally fake.

01:46:02.000 More MI6 TV operations.

01:46:05.000 Uh, let's go ahead and talk to Keith in California.

01:46:07.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

01:46:09.000 Greetings, gentlemen.

01:46:10.000 Hi.

01:46:11.000 Hi, Keith.

01:46:12.000 I think he brings up the most important question, and that is, why?

01:46:17.000 Um... The entire premise of the war, from my perspective, is false.

01:46:23.000 And if you're doing a documentary... I mean, how many documentaries have you done, Alex, on 9-11 and the validity of the official story?

01:46:32.000 You know, that is where the meat of this is, because if we're making arguments based on a false premise, What's the point?

01:46:39.000 Yeah, we have lying criminal gangsters who carry out terrorist attacks and fund terrorists in control of our government openly writing memos about how they're going to use these threats to literally herd us into accepting world empire.

01:46:54.000 And we'll have these grand debates about, you know, this war, and we'll never discuss the most important issue.

01:47:04.000 You know, how does a A 757 make a 16-foot hole one hole in the Pentagon.

01:47:10.000 You know, it's just the whole thing falls like dominoes if you dig into the, you know... Why did the White House call Mayor Willie Brown in San Francisco and say don't fly to New York tomorrow?

01:47:21.000 Why did the Joint Chiefs of Staff cancel their trip?

01:47:24.000 Right, if we're really going to get up in arms about this war and demand that foreign policy become corrected, we really have to dig into how this all happened and walk Well, in all fairness, this is part of the same TV series.

01:47:40.000 They've done shows on 9-11.

01:47:42.000 But I understand, in all these debates today, we fracture everything into little pieces.

01:47:50.000 When really, it's like a necklace.

01:47:51.000 They're all a chain.

01:47:52.000 They're all interconnected.

01:47:54.000 And I agree with you on that.

01:47:55.000 But there's dozens of smoking guns that we can talk about and prove there's pictures.

01:48:04.000 You're not going to be able, a lot of people aren't going to listen to you about 9-11, but now they are listening because it can be proven to them that this whole Iraq war was a premeditated, manufactured fraud. 0.92

01:48:15.000 Do you understand that, sir?

01:48:17.000 So if we prove over and over again they're liars on these other issues where we've got them dead to rights, then we can move into the 9-11, which I do every day, sir.

01:48:27.000 I mean, half the calls have been bringing it up.

01:48:28.000 I've been bringing it up.

01:48:30.000 What does Simon think about the official story?

01:48:32.000 Does he buy into it?

01:48:34.000 Yeah, you're on the hot seat now.

01:48:35.000 I'm in the hot seat.

01:48:36.000 Well, I'm a foreigner, so I can get away with not having to give a judgment on that right now.

01:48:40.000 But Keith, if you don't mind, I just want to ask, just to establish things, I think Are you saying, Ketan, you question the entire basis of not just the war in Iraq, but the war on terror?

01:48:52.000 Everything about it, every little bit of information on it, right back to the attack on the Twin Towers?

01:48:58.000 Well, I mean, that's where it started.

01:49:00.000 You know, the American population was herded like a bunch of sheep, you know, when a shotgun blast goes off, and so we didn't ask, you know, who pulled the trigger on the shotgun, we just We're in for cover.

01:49:15.000 I appreciate the call.

01:49:15.000 Absolutely.

01:49:17.000 That's a really good place to end it.

01:49:20.000 Simon, it was fun meeting you.

01:49:22.000 Mr. Reeve, you take care.

01:49:24.000 Thank you very much indeed for having us.

01:49:26.000 Much appreciated.

01:49:26.000 You bet.

01:49:28.000 I was just over in London a few months ago covering the London bombings, that MI6 operation.

01:49:34.000 We certainly hope that the British authorities will bring Mr. Aswat, their agent, to justice, but we know that's not going to happen.

01:49:42.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with a bunch of other news and your calls. 0.63

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01:58:43.000 Just for a segment or so to talk about, well, this new nightmare, this new thing that's happening that our loving government is involved in, and that is, of course, saying that foster children or people in government custody, they can saying that foster children or people in government custody, they can test whatever they want on It just makes my blood boil to think of them doing this to innocent children.

01:59:09.000 It makes me so angry.

01:59:10.000 EPA to allow pesticide testing on orphans and mentally ill handicapped children.

01:59:18.000 And again, an orphan is somebody snatched from their parents usually.

01:59:21.000 Public comments are now being accepted by the Environmental Protection Agency on its newly proposed federal regulation regarding the testing of chemicals and pesticides on human subjects.

01:59:31.000 On August 2, 2005, Congress had mandated the EPA create A rule that permanently bans chemical testing on pregnant women and children, but the EPA's newly proposed rule mislegally titled Protections for Subjects in Human Research, puts industry profits ahead of children's welfare.

01:59:46.000 The rule allows the government and industry scientists to treat children as human guinea pigs in chemical experiments in the following situations.

01:59:56.000 Now this is from the rule change.

01:59:59.000 Children who cannot be reasonably consulted such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.

02:00:18.000 Did you hear that?

02:00:19.000 Well, we can research on the orphans.

02:00:21.000 Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children who have been neglected or abused.

02:00:26.000 Oh, the parents abused them, so we're going to give them some pesticides.

02:00:30.000 This is from the EPA.

02:00:34.000 And it continues here.

02:00:36.000 Chemical studies on any children outside of the U.S.

02:00:40.000 are egg-ceptable.

02:00:43.000 And this is from 70 FR 5386526.408A.

02:00:47.000 Do we have our guest now?

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02:00:54.000 Well, that's good.

02:00:55.000 We're going to break here in a moment and we'll go to our guest after the break.

02:01:00.000 And that's Organic Consumer Association Environmental Scientist Craig Monona, who we had on a few weeks ago on the Congress now moving forward to basically destroy organic labeling period.

02:01:14.000 But that is important, but just the sheer evil of this.

02:01:20.000 Again, it's been in the New York Daily News, it's been in New York Papers, and a few other papers around the country, but they got caught with their pants down a few years ago in New York.

02:01:27.000 The City Welfare Department did, literally renting children out to pharma and others, testing pesticides, AIDS medications, very toxic ones on them, kids that didn't even have AIDS.

02:01:40.000 They were dying!

02:01:42.000 There were articles where it said little Billy the first week went from being healthy and happy and liked to play basketball to having to lay in the bed.

02:01:50.000 And then Billy died.

02:01:51.000 I mean, you're reading this and no one goes to jail.

02:01:54.000 We're just murdering children.

02:01:56.000 It's fun.

02:01:57.000 I mean, this is what our government does.

02:02:00.000 And I'm sitting here with the FDA documents.

02:02:03.000 Oh, if the child was abused, they're ours.

02:02:06.000 So this is the type of nightmare we're discussing.

02:02:09.000 We'll come back and go to our guest.

02:02:12.000 Environmental scientist Craig Menona coming up here after this quick three minute break.

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02:05:50.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:05:53.000 We're just going to keep our guests for this segment.

02:06:03.000 And then I'd like to hear callers.

02:06:04.000 specifically talk about this you want something you can prove you want something that's just outright evil that's in your face we've been talking a lot about the microwaving and the radiating of 110,000 Jewish children that's in major British and Jewish newspapers over in over in the Middle East you know It is not debatable.

02:06:26.000 It is public.

02:06:28.000 The government took healthy little kids.

02:06:29.000 It would be bad enough if they were disabled children. 1.00

02:06:32.000 That's just as bad.

02:06:33.000 But I mean healthy little kids.

02:06:34.000 Whole lives ahead of them. 1.00

02:06:36.000 Just kill them. 1.00

02:06:36.000 And would kill them. 1.00

02:06:37.000 Just kill them. 1.00

02:06:38.000 I mean this is what we're talking about. 1.00

02:06:40.000 This is who we're fighting here.

02:06:42.000 And this is akin to it.

02:06:45.000 And I was just reading from the new rule being announced by the Food and Drug Administration and the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, and thank God a great organization, the Organic Consumers Association, that's organicconsumers.org, is joining us today.

02:07:04.000 I tell you, Craig Menona is an environmental scientist with the association.

02:07:12.000 Craig, it just gets crazier and crazier every day.

02:07:15.000 It's sorrowful.

02:07:18.000 What's going on with this new EPA situation?

02:07:22.000 Well, basically the EPA had teamed up with some chemical companies last fall for what was known as the CHEERS study, which was a study that targeted low-income families in Florida.

02:07:35.000 There was such a huge citizen backlash from that that Congress, led by Senator Barbara Boxer, put pressure on the EPA to drop that study as a whole.

02:07:46.000 And then in August, Congress mandated that the EPA create a rule that bans all testing of children and pregnant women.

02:07:57.000 And then this rule came forth as the EPA's response to that.

02:08:01.000 Unfortunately, there's gaping loopholes in this rule right now, as you noted before the commercial break.

02:08:10.000 Well, there's also such a long history of chemical, biological, radiological testing on disabled children and children, period, for that matter.

02:08:17.000 I'm just reading the bill here, I mean, or the law, this rule.

02:08:22.000 I'm reading it here and it just openly says, if kids have been abused and they don't have any rights, we're going to abuse them.

02:08:30.000 Correct, yeah.

02:08:32.000 If the parents are deemed as unfit, then they don't have to give consent.

02:08:36.000 The same holds true for I'm going to say handicapped kids.

02:08:40.000 The rule states that kids need to also give consent and that actually falls within the Nuremberg Code.

02:08:47.000 But if they're retarded, they don't have any rights. 1.00

02:08:50.000 Exactly, and also if they're orphans, then they just need the EPA or the testing facility would need consent from the institution that oversees the kids and of course a lot of these institutions are

02:09:03.000 uh... pretty uh... financially uh... in need of more income and so a chemical company comes to the institution says we're going to give you a x number of dollars to test the kids and um... you know and then tells the institution that the chemicals are relatively benign or whatever you know blah blah blah blah You know I'm having trouble hearing you.

02:09:22.000 I apologize.

02:09:23.000 Can we boost his audio please to me because I'm just noticing that's been happening lately.

02:09:27.000 It might be on my end but I apologize Craig.

02:09:31.000 Again, I feel like I should pull my hair out, I should yell, I should scream, I should freak out.

02:09:37.000 This is pure evil right in front of us and they just calmly do it.

02:09:41.000 Craig, were you familiar with the news the last few years out of New York where they'll actually come to a mother and say, we're going to take your 10-year-old from you, we're the CPS, but if you sign him over to us and don't argue, we'll let you keep the 2-year-old.

02:09:53.000 I mean, that's a real case.

02:09:55.000 And then they take him and just start feeding the little happy little 10-year-old, 8-year-old boy a pesticide.

02:10:01.000 And then he's literally in a stretcher vomiting and dying. 0.50

02:10:05.000 I mean, it's just psychopathic murdering.

02:10:07.000 And then the CPS workers, finally one of them has a soul and goes public and then she gets fired and it's on the news being defended.

02:10:15.000 I mean, how do you grab children and give them pesticides?

02:10:19.000 Yeah, this entire document is set up for that.

02:10:22.000 This is a major environmental justice issue because basically what's happening here is you're targeting Low-income families, you're targeting low-income institutions and one of the weakest populations, the most vulnerable populations here in the United States and overseas.

02:10:39.000 Actually, the document says that if the studies are done overseas, they're completely acceptable.

02:10:43.000 So you can expect that these chemical companies will simply start to outsource some of these studies to countries that don't have astringent laws.

02:10:54.000 Well, this will please Peter Singer and the animal rights activists, though.

02:10:58.000 Instead of guinea pigs and rabbits and white lab rats being killed, we'll just start... Well, I guess we're not about to start.

02:11:06.000 It's already been going on. 1.00

02:11:08.000 We'll just kill and poison the little kids. 1.00

02:11:11.000 We'll just maybe put them in little cages and maybe we can just move on to that level. 0.99

02:11:17.000 The most confusing part about this is the congressional mandate said that this rule needed to be set up Without exception.

02:11:25.000 There's no exception to the rule that children should not be tested on, pregnant women should not be tested on. 1.00

02:11:30.000 What this document does is...

02:11:32.000 You can spend 30 pages of fine text, most of which is just this flowery introduction about how great this entire rule is.

02:11:40.000 No, it's all like that.

02:11:41.000 Love the children.

02:11:43.000 Be sweet to them.

02:11:44.000 Give them candy bars. 1.00

02:11:45.000 And then at the end of the day, shoot them five times in the head. 1.00

02:11:48.000 But that's in small print. 1.00

02:11:50.000 Exactly.

02:11:50.000 It's a long, flowery introduction that does exactly that.

02:11:54.000 And you really have to look pretty deep in it to find these little, well, I shouldn't say little, these massive gaping loopholes.

02:12:00.000 Well, I'm actually reading from the subsections.

02:12:04.000 I mean, 70 FR 5386526.408 Section C. I mean, I'm reading here where it openly says, Children who cannot be reasonably consulted, such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns, may be tested on with permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual.

02:12:26.000 The child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.

02:12:29.000 Again, folks, we're talking actual lab rats.

02:12:32.000 Actual lab rats with babies. 1.00

02:12:34.000 They'll kill them. 1.00

02:12:36.000 They'll use them for body parts. 1.00

02:12:37.000 No big deal.

02:12:38.000 Folks, we're not joking about this.

02:12:39.000 Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children who have been neglected or abused.

02:12:44.000 Well, since they've been abused, let's abuse them more. 0.81

02:12:46.000 Chemical studies on any child outside of the U.S.

02:12:49.000 are acceptable.

02:12:51.000 And it goes on and on.

02:12:53.000 That's actual text from the document.

02:12:55.000 That's actual text from the proposed rule.

02:12:59.000 When is Rod Serling going to walk out and tell me you're in a place, a place called the Twilight Zone?

02:13:08.000 I just, I want to wake up from this nightmare, sir.

02:13:12.000 I don't even want to cover this anymore.

02:13:12.000 I'm sick of it.

02:13:15.000 This is hellish.

02:13:17.000 Yeah, we really didn't even know how to go about doing the alert for it.

02:13:21.000 Just because it is so, it doesn't seem believable.

02:13:24.000 It doesn't seem like something like this could really happen.

02:13:26.000 So we had to really We spent a lot of time trying to make sure that we had dozens of external links off of our alert page.

02:13:34.000 You know, it goes to the Washington Post and Baltimore Sun.

02:13:37.000 Well, they call the report on it like it's just the price of cheese.

02:13:41.000 That's a good point.

02:13:44.000 I mean, imagine, they're just calmly talking about, oh, we'll grab your kids, and, by the way, can you trust a government to grab kids from families if they have a money incentive to do it?

02:13:54.000 And, see, again, you can't trust someone that they're even taking truly abused children, see?

02:13:59.000 And then we get into that whole ball of wax, how it's been proven that, in most cases, it is a fraud.

02:14:04.000 Yeah.

02:14:06.000 So what were you to stop this, sir?

02:14:08.000 There's a comment period that goes until December 12th on our action page on the organicconsumers.org site.

02:14:15.000 You can go there, and there's all sorts of information.

02:14:18.000 You can research the heck out of this to find out as much information as you want before making any sort of comment.

02:14:24.000 There's also a template comment letter there, and folks can either email that.

02:14:29.000 They can mail in their own comments.

02:14:30.000 They can call in their comments, but they need to comment.

02:14:34.000 Well, look, this has been going on for decades.

02:14:37.000 We know this.

02:14:39.000 We know this has been going on, really, since the 40s, some of the cases we've seen, on a massive level.

02:14:44.000 But because of backlash, because of lawsuits, because of employees, some good CPS workers and others, and people that are, I mean, watching the kids die, folks.

02:14:53.000 It's been in New York papers.

02:14:55.000 I mean, they actually killed them, in some cases.

02:14:57.000 Very toxic chemicals, pesticides, cocktails of this stuff.

02:15:01.000 Literally like lab rats.

02:15:04.000 Now they're just codifying it, I guess, into law.

02:15:06.000 But this isn't even law, it's just some regulatory mumbo-jumbo, and I don't think this is going to protect them from liability.

02:15:12.000 Just because the EPA says you can feed little children or little babies pesticides doesn't mean you can really do it.

02:15:21.000 Right, and they've set up a lot of Gobbledygook in there too. 0.56

02:15:25.000 That's just sort of a whitewashing sort of situation where they'll say that the IRB, the Independent Review Board, can determine that if The study, uh, that supplementary protective measures can be taken if it's, if it's determined that the chemical exposure could be dangerous for the child.

02:15:43.000 So basically, if the kid gets out of the cage, literally, and is able to run down the street begging, and if the cops, of course, they'll have a wristband, the cop will bring him right back.

02:15:51.000 Help me, please!

02:15:52.000 I've been torturing people for five years!

02:15:54.000 Come with me back now.

02:15:55.000 It's time to go back to your loving area.

02:15:57.000 I mean, this is like a nightmare science fiction movie!

02:16:02.000 Yeah, it's very peculiar.

02:16:03.000 It's our own EPA.

02:16:05.000 Your mommy put cigarettes out on you, so now we're going to make you drink experimental drugs and pesticide. 1.00

02:16:10.000 A lot of this rule was actually doctored up.

02:16:15.000 It was a backroom sort of creation, too.

02:16:18.000 There was no public comment period to create this rule.

02:16:21.000 And there's actually six different major pesticide studies that are on the threshold of coming out right now.

02:16:28.000 Our thought with this is that The manner in which those studies were conducted wouldn't be fitting for a rule that required that there was no exceptions.

02:16:40.000 Let's boil this down, folks.

02:16:42.000 They're feeding the children bug poison, and then they take biopsies in blood and test and see, ooh, the liver is dying!

02:16:50.000 Look!

02:16:51.000 Look at it!

02:16:51.000 I mean, this is Joseph Mingala stuff!

02:16:56.000 Yeah.

02:16:57.000 I mean, you're a research scientist.

02:16:59.000 That's what you do.

02:16:59.000 I mean, you look at this, sir.

02:17:03.000 Yeah, it's not even just a pesticide.

02:17:06.000 This is a whole gamut of any kind of experimental chemical.

02:17:11.000 So with the CHEER study, for example, they were doing it with a ruminated flame retardant and with Teflon. 0.62

02:17:18.000 I'll tell you what, you know, I've been running out of the mouth.

02:17:20.000 Come back, sir, for a few more minutes.

02:17:21.000 We'll get the website out again.

02:17:22.000 And please tell us some of the other thousands of Things they're going to be doing.

02:17:28.000 I mean, imagine if you went out and kidnapped a kid, folks, and made them drink mug poison.

02:17:33.000 They'd give you the death penalty, and they should.

02:17:35.000 Government doesn't. 1.00

02:17:36.000 They'd pass laws and go, yeah, we can kill your kids. 1.00

02:17:38.000 I mean, this is sick. 1.00

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02:22:00.000 Your calls are coming up in the next segment.

02:22:01.000 I want to go through this new oil company news.

02:22:05.000 They knowingly lied.

02:22:06.000 Oh, big surprise in front of Congress.

02:22:08.000 They're not going to get in trouble.

02:22:10.000 Oh, we never met with Dick Cheney and the Energy Commissioner or any of his deputies.

02:22:14.000 We don't care about what charts the future of it.

02:22:14.000 Oh, no.

02:22:17.000 It just goes on and on and on.

02:22:19.000 But, frankly, I don't even care about getting ripped off for oil compared to poisoning little kids.

02:22:23.000 I mean, folks, they're doing it.

02:22:24.000 It's not like we can trust the government to test on the kids.

02:22:28.000 They don't deserve the rights that anybody else has.

02:22:30.000 Let me tell the cops something, and the government, and the minions out there.

02:22:34.000 You think you're safe?

02:22:35.000 You think you're safe, too? 1.00

02:22:38.000 Yeah, well, let them pick on the little weak, retarded kids. 1.00

02:22:41.000 Let them. 0.99

02:22:42.000 I'm gonna be alright.

02:22:43.000 I got a black mask and a skull patch.

02:22:45.000 I mean, I'm powerful.

02:22:47.000 I go to cowboy games.

02:22:48.000 I mean, I got a bunch of slits of malt liquor in the refrigerator.

02:22:52.000 Everything's alright.

02:22:53.000 We're talking...

02:22:55.000 To the Organic Consumers Association, Organic Consumers Association of America, Campaign for Health, Justice, and Sustainability, and the website is organicconsumers.org.

02:23:05.000 We're talking to, of course, environmental scientist, research scientist, Craig Menona.

02:23:10.000 We're going to let him go here in just a moment, but tell us some of the, it's not just pesticides and experimental drugs, it's whatever they want, and yeah, flame retardant. 0.96

02:23:18.000 I mean, tell us about that.

02:23:21.000 That actually was initially in the proposal a brominated flame retardant, which are known to cause brain damage and a whole consortium of other horrible health effects.

02:23:36.000 That along with scotchgard, which has been connected with liver disease.

02:23:43.000 It's just any type of chemical you can imagine.

02:23:45.000 There's no restrictions within the rule at all, ranging from pesticides to To flame retardants, to experimental skin applications, to whatever it may be.

02:23:56.000 Any of that can be tested on the children within the study.

02:23:59.000 Which, by the way, it's been in the Houston Chronicle and other places, just minor blurbs.

02:24:04.000 Oh, by the way, at our Huntsville prisons, we're testing on people if they want anything but bologna sandwiches three times a day.

02:24:10.000 They just sign an agreement and we graft dioxin into their backs. 0.53

02:24:15.000 I mean, this is the type of stuff that goes on, and it has to stop.

02:24:20.000 I mean, are any of us safe, Greg, when this type of thing is going on?

02:24:23.000 I mean, this is Nazi Germany.

02:24:25.000 I hate to keep perseverating on that, but I'm freaked out.

02:24:29.000 I mean, I'm about ready to get out of this country.

02:24:32.000 Yeah, one of the big things here, too, is that most of these studies are paid for and conducted by the actual chemical companies.

02:24:38.000 The chemical companies then take the study results, they sift out the negative information from the studies, and they submit the positive information to the EPA, and that's what ultimately becomes regulation.

02:24:49.000 And they can tell you that this little four-year-old that you gave all this dioxin to loved it and didn't get sick.

02:24:55.000 Of course, the poor child's retarded and can't defend themselves. 1.00

02:24:59.000 Exactly, and that's a big portion of it, too.

02:25:03.000 What we've seen with these studies in the past is that they ultimately lead to weakening of regulations on pesticides or chemicals in general.

02:25:14.000 Well, it's sick and I'm tired of it and cancer is exploding and all these health problems are exploding and I don't want my family... I mean, it's just... doesn't the elite, Craig, know that it's hurting their children too?

02:25:25.000 I mean, why do they do this?

02:25:26.000 It's just...

02:25:29.000 Well, it's all profit incentive.

02:25:32.000 That's really what it is in these studies.

02:25:35.000 Again, if you're targeting the low-income people, and this is something interesting we had with the Cheers study and the Cheers alert late last year.

02:25:43.000 The EPA responded to our alert and the citizen backlash from it and saying, you know, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.

02:25:50.000 The study is It's solid and great, and we responded to them with, well, why don't you volunteer your own children then?

02:25:56.000 If this is such a safe study, why are you targeting this African-American, extremely low-income community in Duval, Florida, and not volunteering your own children?

02:26:07.000 Of course, they're not doing that. 0.99

02:26:09.000 You know, that really adds validity to that black professor that says the whites want to kill us, get them first. 1.00

02:26:13.000 Of course, it isn't true, they're doing it to white kids too, but they really do target blacks. 1.00

02:26:18.000 It's disgusting. 0.98

02:26:20.000 Why doesn't Jesse Jackson talk about that? 0.96

02:26:22.000 No, he's too busy fighting with toothless Klan members who aren't a threat to anything, they're just a threat to their own hygiene. 0.86

02:26:29.000 It's just, it's unbelievable!

02:26:33.000 It just makes me sick!

02:26:35.000 How do they... And folks, I've read the articles, I've even seen little TV programs about it.

02:26:40.000 I mean, these are like armored prison facilities.

02:26:42.000 They just take these poor little kids in, and they just labor at them, and they... You know, the Animal Liberation Front, by the way, they're all anti-human.

02:26:50.000 They say tests on humans.

02:26:51.000 They think this is great. 0.85

02:26:53.000 They'll bust in and shoot doctors because they're doing this to rhesus monkeys, but they don't care. 0.99

02:26:57.000 There's little black kids they're doing it to, and little white kids they're doing it to. 0.98

02:27:02.000 What are the percentages?

02:27:03.000 I haven't seen them in a few years, but isn't it like 60% black and about 30% Hispanic and the other 10% white?

02:27:10.000 Well, with some of these chemical studies, that's exactly what we've seen.

02:27:14.000 In fact, there's very few representations from the white population altogether, which is interesting, because the chemical companies say that they're doing these broad studies to figure out how these chemicals are affecting a wide range of populations, but that's obviously not the case.

02:27:28.000 Wow.

02:27:28.000 I want to thank you so much for always coming on, Craig.

02:27:31.000 Yeah, well, thank you.

02:27:32.000 God bless you.

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02:31:15.000 Ted Anderson is about to be in studio with us for just about five minutes up at the Genesis Studios in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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02:34:14.000 Now, let's shift gears and go to Ted Anderson, the founder of the Genesis Network, I guess out of scratch, going back almost six years ago now.

02:34:25.000 I've been on another truly rinky-dink network, but he created a new network and expanded it, and really has done a great job now.

02:34:33.000 Over 300 affiliates total with all the different Genesis shows combined.

02:34:38.000 And we have many of those day and night.

02:34:41.000 We're always thankful for all those affiliates.

02:34:42.000 But I really want to thank the founder of the GCN Radio Network.

02:34:46.000 I've heard some crazy stuff where these weirdos get on the air and claim they founded the Genesis Network.

02:34:52.000 I just wanted to throw that out there.

02:34:53.000 That is just...

02:34:54.000 That is malarkey.

02:34:56.000 It was Ted Anderson and Michael Trudeau.

02:34:58.000 But side issue, Ted is here because gold just keeps going up and up.

02:35:04.000 And folks, I don't have a lot of money, but my savings is predominantly in gold.

02:35:09.000 I bought a few coins last Friday.

02:35:12.000 And you know what?

02:35:13.000 I bought Turbine Coins from Ted four years ago, and I've shopped around.

02:35:17.000 You can find them a little cheaper a few places.

02:35:18.000 Most of the places, it's a lot more.

02:35:21.000 But Ted supports freedom and supports the Genesis Network, owns the Genesis Network.

02:35:26.000 And you know what?

02:35:28.000 When gold went up a year ago, I didn't sell it.

02:35:30.000 When gold went up again, I didn't sell it.

02:35:31.000 I'm not selling it.

02:35:34.000 It's there for when there's a real estate bust so I can sell that gold and then buy the real estate when it's at five cents on the dollar, which it really could.

02:35:42.000 Some real estate may go to that.

02:35:44.000 That's what that gold is there.

02:35:45.000 That gold is there if my children choose that they wish to go to college.

02:35:49.000 Well, I better make some money if I'm going to be able to do that.

02:35:52.000 I don't have much.

02:35:53.000 But he's got five dollar gold pieces at near melt price with some numismatic.

02:35:59.000 That has collector value to it as well, being non-compensatable.

02:36:02.000 Under U.S.

02:36:03.000 government laws, bullion is compensatable.

02:36:05.000 I do hold bullion, some, and I mainly hold semi-numismatic.

02:36:08.000 Ted, thank you for joining us in studio as the founder of the GCN Radio Network.

02:36:12.000 Hey, thanks for having me up again, Alex.

02:36:14.000 I gotta tell you right now, gold is up $20 an ounce here.

02:36:18.000 Currently right now, we're looking at gold at $486.

02:36:20.000 at $486.

02:36:21.000 It was $660 earlier this week.

02:36:24.000 I just, you know, I'm glad you're letting me on now because right now I've got a situation just like I've had in the past where here I lock into some coins and the price goes up in gold and I still have them at the lower end.

02:36:37.000 Thank you.

02:36:38.000 They're not going to find these coins lower priced anywhere else.

02:36:40.000 That's because they're not available at a lower price anywhere.

02:36:44.000 What I have right now are $5 gold pieces.

02:36:47.000 They're the coins that were manufactured by the U.S.

02:36:49.000 here in the United States.

02:36:52.000 They are in proof and business strike condition for collector type use.

02:36:56.000 They're at $175 a coin.

02:36:59.000 I just had another price increase right before I walked into the studio, but I've held onto this position without having to have that problem.

02:37:07.000 The neat part about this thing is that usually these come in government holders, Somebody took the time on 150 of these coins and sent them into the certificate institutes like PCGS and NGC and paid $25 a coin to get these things graded.

02:37:24.000 They're like MS69 proof and MS68.

02:37:27.000 I mean they're just beautiful coins.

02:37:30.000 Top of the shelf.

02:37:32.000 Top notch.

02:37:33.000 First 150 coins are in those holders.

02:37:35.000 The rest are not.

02:37:36.000 We only have about 500 of them to work with, but right now I have them at a price that's lower than the normal market price.

02:37:45.000 With the price of gold going up 20 bucks again here, obviously these are going to take an increase.

02:37:50.000 As a matter of fact, they already have.

02:37:52.000 So Ted, basically you're selling these really close to melt.

02:37:57.000 And, folks, if you saw the margin even here for Midas Resources, it's very small.

02:38:02.000 I mean, obviously, you know, it's a free market situation, but you're not going to find these any lower.

02:38:07.000 And I've certainly taken advantage of it, as I do a couple times a year.

02:38:11.000 I hope that you will.

02:38:13.000 Or you can just keep trusting the fiat currency.

02:38:16.000 Well, I mean, Alex, it's obvious that people have to get into something other than the fiat currency.

02:38:21.000 Inflation is the big problem right now.

02:38:23.000 Inflation's pushing the price of gold.

02:38:25.000 Silver's up over $8 an ounce.

02:38:27.000 I don't know if you guys know it or not, but silver has gone up to $8.10 an ounce, so that's up too.

02:38:34.000 The precious metals, all are taking increases, and it's reflecting what's going on in the real economy out there.

02:38:40.000 I would really suggest that you call on these, and if you can get on the first 150 coins, you're going to have PCGS NGC graded coins.

02:38:48.000 That's unheard of in this particular coin, because they come out in the government in perfect shape as it is.

02:38:54.000 That certification is, you know, that's $25 a coin right there.

02:39:00.000 That's just really great to get involved with that.

02:39:02.000 They're $3,500 a roll.

02:39:04.000 You don't have to pick them up by the roll.

02:39:05.000 You can pick them up by individual coin.

02:39:07.000 But I suggest that you give us a call.

02:39:09.000 This is a great opportunity.

02:39:10.000 And the way to get to us is 1-800...

02:39:13.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:39:15.000 That's 1-800-686-2237.

02:39:18.000 Currently, like I said, the spot price of gold is at $486.

02:39:22.000 That's up $20 an ounce from just two days ago.

02:39:25.000 A real strong market in gold.

02:39:28.000 We're having some incredible times here in the precious metals business.

02:39:32.000 And I just got to say, folks, this is like the beginning.

02:39:35.000 It's not the end of the market.

02:39:37.000 It is the beginning of the market.

02:39:38.000 We have a situation where most people are calling from $800 to $1,000 an ounce that are looking at the precious metals prices and where it could go.

02:39:46.000 That goes as high as Merrill Lynch and some of the biggest...

02:39:49.000 Ted, you know, just for this show today, because you called this morning and wanted to come on, I actually went and looked it up.

02:39:55.000 But I've got major newspapers.

02:39:56.000 In fact, they're here in the stack.

02:39:57.000 I'll try to dig them out.

02:39:58.000 Rents.com has got some links to them, too, I saw today.

02:40:01.000 But right there...

02:40:04.000 If I got to get these posted on the website, you ought to get these posted at the GCNlive.com website.

02:40:10.000 I mean, it's major financial institutions are making major moves buying gold and silver and other metals right now, and major investors are now running out of mutual funds and other things into this.

02:40:22.000 I mean, it just makes sense.

02:40:25.000 There are countries like China who is getting involved in gold.

02:40:28.000 There are countries all over the world.

02:40:29.000 So are the Arabs. 0.95

02:40:31.000 Right now, at this time, the dollar is taking the hit.

02:40:33.000 Everybody knows out there that the United States cannot continue to go into debt like they have been.

02:40:38.000 This war out there in the Middle East... You know, Paul Craig Roberts, again, former associate editor of of major publications like the Wall Street Journal, and of course William F. Buckley's publication, National Review, number two at Treasury for Reagan, and he said, and he broke down the numbers, and he's an economist, folks, award-winning, I mean, he said that Bush has borrowed more money than every other president combined before him.

02:41:05.000 And that's the problem, Alex.

02:41:07.000 As the U.S.

02:41:08.000 Treasury goes further into debt, there's more money being pumped in.

02:41:11.000 And this new Fed chairman says he's going to accelerate the money printing even faster!

02:41:15.000 Exactly.

02:41:15.000 He's actually giving speeches saying that!

02:41:18.000 Yeah, and what that's going to cause is it's going to cause a lot of inflation.

02:41:21.000 It's going to cause the people who have been saving their money for all these years and in the stocks and the bonds and this type of thing, there's going to be a huge hit coming along in this.

02:41:29.000 Interest rates are going to skyrocket.

02:41:30.000 You're right about that.

02:41:31.000 There's a real estate bubble out there.

02:41:33.000 And when the interest rates rise too fast, obviously the real estate prices come down and they come down fast.

02:41:39.000 Frankly, I'm waiting to do that.

02:41:42.000 As soon as the bubble implodes, I'm going to go out. 0.63

02:41:47.000 It may not be a lot of land, but I'll end up being able to buy a few acres of property that was I mean, it's ridiculous, folks.

02:41:52.000 I've looked at this cycle before, and you don't buy high on the real estate.

02:41:57.000 You buy low.

02:41:58.000 People keep going, well, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

02:42:00.000 When it implodes and the numbers are out, it's even bigger now.

02:42:04.000 Whether it's a year from now or ten years from now, it's going to be serious, and gold will then just shoot through the roof.

02:42:11.000 And then that's when you dump some of the gold and are able to buy real estate.

02:42:15.000 That's what you're after.

02:42:17.000 You know, Alex, I gotta say too, the economy looks tough enough that you better have some small pieces of gold that you can tuck into your shoe and walk away with in case the worst comes to worst, the type of scenario that can play out like we've been talking about.

02:42:29.000 I mean, look, it's scary.

02:42:29.000 No, I know.

02:42:31.000 You know, I've been buying small pieces of gold.

02:42:32.000 There's little bits here and bits there.

02:42:34.000 That's what it's for.

02:42:36.000 But I want to thank you for coming on, Ted.

02:42:38.000 God bless you.

02:42:38.000 Yeah, thanks for coming.

02:42:40.000 Thanks for letting me up.

02:42:41.000 And again, 1-800-686-2237.

02:42:44.000 Give us a call.

02:42:45.000 Pick up some of those coins.

02:42:46.000 There's only 150 of them in those sealed holders.

02:42:49.000 I would suggest that you get those if you can get them.

02:42:51.000 Absolutely, it makes sense.

02:42:52.000 That's 1-800-686-2237.

02:42:53.000 That's 1-800-686-2237.

02:42:53.000 That's right, Ted, isn't it?

02:42:54.000 1-800-686-2237. That's 1-800-686-2237.

02:43:00.000 That's right, Ted, isn't it?

02:43:01.000 1-800-686-2237?

02:43:03.000 Yep.

02:43:04.000 Okay.

02:43:05.000 I hope I don't give it out wrong.

02:43:07.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:43:07.000 Oh, and tell them it's the Alex Jones Special to specifically take advantage of that.

02:43:13.000 And Ted has put everything he's got behind this network, and it's really been good to see the network growing and getting stronger, both the network and Midas Resources, in the last year.

02:43:25.000 Really, really exciting.

02:43:26.000 I'm getting rid of some of that deadwood and just exploding.

02:43:30.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:43:32.000 Okay, let's go ahead now and go to your calls.

02:43:37.000 I'm going to move quickly because I want to go to all of you and then I have a few tidbits I want to try to hit as well.

02:43:41.000 Let's see if he's still there.

02:43:42.000 He's been holding patiently.

02:43:43.000 Moses in Texas.

02:43:45.000 Moses, go ahead.

02:43:46.000 Yeah, patience is a virtue, Mr. Jones.

02:43:48.000 First time caller, long time listener.

02:43:50.000 Welcome.

02:43:51.000 Can you hear me well?

02:43:52.000 Because I'm in the mall.

02:43:53.000 You're loud and clear, brother.

02:43:54.000 Good, good, good.

02:43:55.000 Um, last week Waddy Watt was on the phone, or he was in your studio, and he was talking about the other Waddy Watt, Steve.

02:44:00.000 He was talking about, you know, peaceful revolution that we're already in the midst of.

02:44:04.000 What I wanted to add on top of that, it's kind of like silent weapons for quiet wars, and GCN is probably one of the biggest weapons.

02:44:12.000 Um, another thing, maybe you can help me out with this, I like to call what you see, it's like, it's called the web.

02:44:18.000 Because you were talking earlier about 80% that want to get rid of 80% to 85% of us.

02:44:24.000 If you check things out, it's kind of biblical because they want to take it back to pre-flood.

02:44:28.000 If I understand correctly.

02:44:30.000 No, I hear you.

02:44:31.000 Thanks for the call.

02:44:32.000 I'm going to have to move quick here.

02:44:34.000 That's a huge subject. 0.82

02:44:35.000 But no, I mean, the elite are just a bunch of psychopathic killers and they've got all these social Darwinistic excuses for what they're doing. 0.51

02:44:41.000 But interesting point, sir. 0.94

02:44:43.000 Let's talk to George.

02:44:46.000 In Illinois, I believe.

02:44:47.000 Go ahead.

02:44:47.000 George, you're on the air.

02:44:48.000 Alex?

02:44:49.000 I'm scared.

02:44:49.000 Yes?

02:44:51.000 I've got 10 children.

02:44:53.000 And I'm from Germany.

02:44:54.000 I'm here since 81.

02:44:56.000 This is Nazi Germany over here.

02:44:57.000 They're conducting human sacrifice, population control.

02:45:01.000 Yeah, that's what it is. 0.75

02:45:03.000 All this abortion and grabbing little kids and taking them off and poisoning them to death. 0.99

02:45:07.000 I mean, it's death camps right in front of you.

02:45:09.000 It is survival of the fittest.

02:45:10.000 It's Darwinism.

02:45:11.000 These are Satanists and the cartels who run our politicians.

02:45:16.000 There's a fantastic book written, and you should have this lady on your show, Dr. Carol Dean. 0.97

02:45:22.000 The book is called Death by Modern Medicine.

02:45:24.000 It came out in 2005.

02:45:25.000 And I tell you, she tells it the way you say it right now.

02:45:30.000 Get her on the show.

02:45:33.000 Listen, we're not joking.

02:45:34.000 It's been in major New York papers.

02:45:36.000 It's on InfoWars.com, PresidentBarnett.com. 0.93

02:45:38.000 They grab little black kids, little white kids, little Hispanic kids and they take them and they strap them down and a month later they die. 0.98

02:45:45.000 I mean, this is in many cases. 0.95

02:45:46.000 They actually murder children.

02:45:48.000 Alex, are these satanists?

02:45:50.000 Honestly, I mean, who are these people doing these things?

02:45:53.000 This is so evil.

02:45:54.000 No, no, I agree.

02:45:54.000 No, no, exactly.

02:45:56.000 The doctors and nurses and people doing this are either really stupid. 1.00

02:45:59.000 A lot of them are dumb as dirt and totally unconscious. 1.00

02:46:02.000 I mean, you heard the guest earlier where people are like, you talk like English. 1.00

02:46:06.000 Is that where English comes from?

02:46:08.000 I mean, they have just so dumbed us down that most people just, the children is here for medication.

02:46:14.000 Time to take it.

02:46:16.000 I've got to search your car.

02:46:18.000 I'm a police officer.

02:46:20.000 You know, what rights?

02:46:21.000 Don't bring up your rights. 1.00

02:46:23.000 I mean, it's just that they're just dumb, man. 1.00

02:46:26.000 A lot of them are just dumb, dumb, dumb. 1.00

02:46:28.000 And others are just following orders. 1.00

02:46:30.000 And other people are just evil.

02:46:31.000 Look, a lot of people hear this stuff and go, okay, it's true.

02:46:34.000 Stuff is evil.

02:46:35.000 I'm going to join it because I'm afraid and I might as well just get power off of it.

02:46:40.000 There's people who are evil and like it. 1.00

02:46:42.000 Then there are people who are dumb. 0.96

02:46:45.000 Then there are people that know it's evil and are afraid, so they just, well, I'll just join it, because then I'll at least protect my family. 0.99

02:46:50.000 And man, those are the people that will be in the worst spot in hell.

02:46:54.000 You're right about that.

02:46:55.000 Alex, I love you.

02:46:57.000 I love you from my heart, and we pray for you, and I think the only thing we can do is Get on our knees and ask God for forgiveness because our country has turned its back away from God.

02:47:08.000 That's what we're weeping right now.

02:47:10.000 No, you're right.

02:47:11.000 God bless you, too.

02:47:11.000 And I love you, too.

02:47:13.000 I really do.

02:47:13.000 I mean, I'm an evil person, folks.

02:47:15.000 We're all evil.

02:47:16.000 We all have problems.

02:47:16.000 I have to control myself.

02:47:18.000 I mean, I really do.

02:47:19.000 But at least I'm conscious of it.

02:47:21.000 Of the battle that we all deal with every day.

02:47:23.000 I mean, we're a fallen creature.

02:47:25.000 Look at what we do.

02:47:26.000 Look at what we are.

02:47:31.000 Heaven help us!

02:47:33.000 And I need your prayers, folks.

02:47:34.000 You know, we're under attack and we don't get up here and we don't talk about it.

02:47:38.000 We don't get up here and whine about how we're under attack.

02:47:40.000 I mean, I see it as a mark, a badge of courage, but it's just, it's amazing.

02:47:48.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Regina in Pennsylvania. 0.72

02:47:50.000 Regina, go ahead. 1.00

02:47:51.000 Hi, Alex.

02:47:52.000 I'll try to talk quick.

02:47:54.000 I wish I could have gone on with the last caller.

02:47:57.000 Or the last guest, because let's face it, Alex, Gillian Huxley, the UNESCO founder, promoted eugenics, the science of creating better people through genetic manipulation. 0.97

02:48:10.000 I want to say that on the floor of the house, I've been watching C-SPAN some today, because there was an important hearing this morning.

02:48:17.000 Jonathan Edemord had a hearing.

02:48:20.000 I mean I did some.

02:48:21.000 of Ron Paul's bills.

02:48:24.000 Let's stay there.

02:48:25.000 I want to hear about it on the other side, Regina, and then we'll go to David and Jeff and wrap this up.

02:48:28.000 Stay with us.

02:48:29.000 Final segment straight ahead.

02:48:31.000 Let Regina finish up, and then I didn't even get into all the old company stuff.

02:48:34.000 I mean, I did some.

02:48:35.000 It's just... 0.69

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02:51:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:51:55.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:51:58.000 All right, Regina, finish up. 1.00

02:52:06.000 In particular, what law, what bill, what was being debated on the House floor today?

02:52:10.000 There's a lot of things going on.

02:52:12.000 I want to make sure, this is Edenmore.com, you can get a hold of the petition, get on there yourself, and get a copy of the petition.

02:52:20.000 This all lies in the face of the fact that Codex Alimentarius came under the CAFTA, but I want to bring up... So there's a law to restrict that?

02:52:29.000 I know this was a hearing at 7.30 in the morning, Alex.

02:52:31.000 I wish I could have been there, but I couldn't.

02:52:33.000 But I watched C-SPAN because basically... What was it a hearing about?

02:52:38.000 This is in regards to having some control over the FDA and the FTC, control over our Supplements, you know, opening up the doors.

02:52:49.000 Ron Paul has a bill, I think it's the Citizen Health Freedom Group is pushing this, but I want to talk to my subject now because I got on here.

02:52:57.000 Yeah, we're almost out of time.

02:52:59.000 Okay, I want to bring up that, you know, also, because Congressman Ron Paul, the percentage, Walter Jones from North Carolina brought through H.J.

02:53:13.000 Res.

02:53:13.000 55 to get us out of Iraq.

02:53:15.000 Homeward bound.

02:53:16.000 Congressman John Martha, my congressman up here in Pennsylvania, has introduced it to come over the KDK.

02:53:22.000 He's had a press release.

02:53:23.000 Keep your eyes open.

02:53:24.000 to get out of Iraq.

02:53:26.000 And he is a high.

02:53:27.000 He will get beat up for this, Alex.

02:53:29.000 We better pray for him.

02:53:29.000 He's not a Christian or whatever he is.

02:53:31.000 I don't know what he is.

02:53:32.000 If you ever get him on his show, please call him.

02:53:34.000 Okay, thank you.

02:53:35.000 We've got to go, Regina.

02:53:36.000 Thank you for the legislative update.

02:53:38.000 We're going to be getting Ron Paul on here in the next week or so, by the way.

02:53:42.000 David.

02:53:43.000 Yes, sir.

02:53:44.000 How are you, Alex?

02:53:44.000 Good.

02:53:45.000 You're on the air.

02:53:45.000 Go ahead.

02:53:46.000 I just wanted to talk to you real quick about a living nightmare that I'm going through, and you're not seeing a lot of coverage about that, and that's the backdoor draft.

02:53:53.000 and men and women being torn from their families who haven't been in the military for years That's right.

02:53:58.000 You serve three, ten years, doesn't matter.

02:54:00.000 And then they just call you up and say, you're our slave.

02:54:02.000 You signed up to be here three years, but you're going to stay in forever.

02:54:05.000 Exactly.

02:54:06.000 What's happened in my situation, I was in the military briefly, not even less than a year when they told me I was out.

02:54:11.000 I was 20 years old.

02:54:12.000 I'm 28 now.

02:54:13.000 I have a baby son and a wife.

02:54:14.000 And essentially I got a letter saying, show up or go to jail.

02:54:17.000 And that's pretty much what's going on right now.

02:54:20.000 It's pretty tragic and it's a pretty scary thing to basically being saying, you're taken away from your family or you're going to go help fight in this invasion of another country.

02:54:30.000 It's amazing.

02:54:33.000 And, of course, I guess you didn't read the fine print.

02:54:37.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:54:37.000 Of course not.

02:54:38.000 And that's the sad thing is they prey on these, you know, when you're young, 18 and 20, and you know, you go out there and you do this and some people say, well, you know... You signed it!

02:54:47.000 It's dishonest!

02:54:48.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:54:49.000 I mean, people have already served and they've got to go again?

02:54:53.000 Exactly.

02:54:55.000 One of the big things that's going on right now is people who are medically discharged are being called back.

02:55:01.000 People who were actually... No, no, it's been in the news.

02:55:04.000 In Tennessee, a 64-year-old man, cancer survivor, being sent to Iraq.

02:55:09.000 I know, I know.

02:55:10.000 Call me back tomorrow or the next day.

02:55:11.000 Let's spend more time and talk about this.

02:55:13.000 That sounds good, because I want to talk about how far you think the draft is off.

02:55:17.000 How far you see before it's going to come again?

02:55:19.000 It'll come after a massive terror attack.

02:55:20.000 It'll probably nuke cities. 0.99

02:55:21.000 Who knows what it'll do.

02:55:22.000 Thanks for the call.

02:55:24.000 I mean, don't think they're done, folks.

02:55:26.000 Jeff in Arkansas.

02:55:27.000 You're on the air.

02:55:28.000 Go ahead.

02:55:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:55:29.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:55:30.000 I'll be quick.

02:55:32.000 It boggles my mind how there's no outrage.

02:55:35.000 So few Americans have the clarity to even be outraged it seems.

02:55:38.000 They, in quotes, have engineered our ignorance to the point that in order to share one outrageous fact you have to cover so much ground bringing people up to speed and what our rights are and what freedom is that by the time you get to the outrageous fact the people have already zoned out.

02:55:52.000 And I just want to say that none of this will make sense until we stop listening to the puppet.

02:55:56.000 And worked out the script that the guy behind the curtain is working from. 0.98

02:56:00.000 The arrogance of government to write this crap down shows how far we've fallen. 0.99

02:56:04.000 And with ignorance, Americans are placing bars on the cages of ourselves and our own children. 0.98

02:56:09.000 And I appreciate that you take the time to educate your guests before you bring them on with your little diatribe. 0.99

02:56:14.000 And just fight the New World Whore! 1.00

02:56:16.000 DIRT! 1.00

02:56:17.000 That's all I got.

02:56:18.000 Great job, well said.

02:56:20.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:21.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:22.000 Get out there and take on the New World Order.

02:56:24.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - November 24, 2005

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