Alex Jones Show - 20051202_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Hello, my friends all across the United States, listening in Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and all the ships at sea, and even McMurtle Weather Station in Antarctica, where we've occasionally gotten phone calls and emails.

00:00:40.000 Welcome, this is the Friday edition, the second day of December 2005, in the final month of 05.

00:00:49.000 We're going to have wide open phones today, just have two guests that will be on together, Ms.

00:00:55.000 Champion and her son, The little patriot who is a freshman, 13 years old, excuse me, he's in middle school.

00:01:05.000 I keep getting confused because it's the high school principal that has gone to the middle school and put up the camera in the restroom.

00:01:13.000 And they'll be joining us with some shocking new developments about what happened there in Jasper County.

00:01:22.000 Georgia coming up in the next hour.

00:01:26.000 We're going to have open phones today talking about any news item, any issue, any news story you wish to discuss.

00:01:34.000 The toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.

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00:01:43.000 We will move to you quickly and move on to the next person even faster so we have time to get to everybody.

00:01:48.000 Senate panel by special vaccine agency.

00:01:52.000 They're moving to pass it to the full Senate and House.

00:01:56.000 And I'm looking at the Associated Press article here.

00:01:59.000 Senate backed Special Vaccine Agency.

00:02:02.000 We give total liability protection to the companies that develop these, to the government that forces them on you.

00:02:09.000 It has force inoculation, mass arrest, quarantine provisions in it.

00:02:14.000 And this is Bioshield 2.

00:02:16.000 They already passed Bioshield 1.

00:02:18.000 Almost six billion dollars, much of it for actual bioweapons development, and that's even been in major publications like the Baltimore Sun several years ago.

00:02:28.000 When they passed it, now they're moving for a radical, radical expansion of this.

00:02:34.000 I want to go into an article that Steve Watson put together.

00:02:37.000 The globalist left arm gives thumbs up to the war, how Hillary and Schumer and Lieberman and all these people, Clinton, have piled on to the other side of the seesaw, because the people, Republicans and Democrats, Independents, were saying no to the war.

00:02:52.000 Now we see the establishment's true colors, the false left-right paradigm disappears, and we find out they're all players on the same team, as they pile on to the other side of the seesaw, trying to force us into this.

00:03:04.000 Meanwhile, Murtha says Army is broken, worn out.

00:03:08.000 Congressman Murtha will get into some of his quotes.

00:03:10.000 Well, that's the idea, sir.

00:03:12.000 That's the plan.

00:03:13.000 Meanwhile, we've got to give up all of our liberties and freedoms or the evil terrorist will get us.

00:03:18.000 And we have this AFP News article.

00:03:20.000 Death toll from roadside accidents 390 times.

00:03:24.000 That from terrorism.

00:03:25.000 Major study shows the industrialized world.

00:03:28.000 That's from the French News Agency or Agency French Press as they pronounce it.

00:03:36.000 Also coming up, Embedded Time reporter Bush lied in speech yesterday about Iraqi security forces.

00:03:42.000 We'll play this clip coming up.

00:03:44.000 Of course they lie.

00:03:45.000 Everything they say is a lie.

00:03:48.000 EU ministers approve ID biometric unification or data sharing.

00:03:54.000 They've already signed an agreement with the US.

00:03:56.000 This is the global biometric ID system.

00:04:00.000 Rights group lists ghost detainees held by US overseas.

00:04:05.000 Blair faces allegations of complicity in torture.

00:04:09.000 Another article that Paul Watson and I put together.

00:04:13.000 Empire in dissent.

00:04:15.000 The deliberate destruction of America.

00:04:17.000 Worldwide despise of the United States.

00:04:21.000 An international precursor for world government takeover.

00:04:25.000 World Health Organization puts a stop to the hiring of smokers.

00:04:29.000 Very dangerous.

00:04:30.000 And I don't smoke, folks.

00:04:32.000 It'll lead to red meat and everything else.

00:04:34.000 Also, Castro's prisoners protest with self-abuse.

00:04:39.000 And we'll get back into some of what's happening with the economy.

00:04:43.000 There's just so much today.

00:04:45.000 So much that you don't want to miss.

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00:08:07.000 Coming up in 51 and a half minutes, and we start the next hour, I'm going to have the mother and her son on from the Georgia School District.

00:08:21.000 Where the middle schooler found the camera in the bathroom, they took it down, took it home, and the principal of the high school hadn't told the principal at the middle school he'd put it there.

00:08:32.000 No one knew it was there.

00:08:33.000 The school police didn't know it was there.

00:08:36.000 And he's just arrogantly saying, I'm going to keep it there.

00:08:39.000 And I want to go back over some of the past articles where, again, they put cameras in school showers.

00:08:46.000 And when a visiting basketball team came, who hadn't been completely brainwashed, they ran screaming, freaking out after the basketball game, and there was almost a riot.

00:08:56.000 That's a normal response to cameras in the showers, but there the principal just said, that's the way it is.

00:09:02.000 Until it became known that it had been shared on the internet, and isn't really about security sometimes, is it?

00:09:10.000 Total Big Brother behavior.

00:09:14.000 And in an article we put up yesterday, we had some of the new developments and new details because one of my webmasters, one of my writers, did talk to a Miss Champion there in Georgia who's now gone public about all of this and whose son has been suspended for daring to dismantle the camera and try to bring it to the proper authorities.

00:09:40.000 And we'll also tell you about what some of the other children who went to the police, what they were told.

00:09:47.000 What the police had to say about this.

00:09:49.000 Now the district attorney said, well, I think it's probably legal.

00:09:52.000 You don't have any rights.

00:09:54.000 You don't have the same constitutional rights when you're in school, which is pure baloney.

00:09:58.000 As if you're a prisoner or have joined the military or something, or have been pressed into British Naval Service and don't have any rights.

00:10:05.000 It's a fraud, but the Sheriff's Department reportedly saw things clearly, but nothing's being done.

00:10:11.000 They said, this doesn't look like security to us, according to Ms.

00:10:16.000 Champion.

00:10:18.000 Doesn't look like security to us.

00:10:21.000 Looks like something else.

00:10:24.000 We'll try to get to the bottom of all of this.

00:10:30.000 Let me just go ahead right now and get into the news, and then we'll start taking your phone calls here in a few minutes.

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00:15:09.000 Okay, let me just get into the news here, and boy, there's a lot of it.

00:15:16.000 Senate panel backs special vaccine agency, and it's on the verge of passing the Senate, and Going on to the House by creating a federal agency shielded from public scrutiny.

00:15:31.000 Some think they can speed the development and testing of new drugs and vaccines.

00:15:36.000 And this is literally a giant military industrial complex payoff for the drug makers and then it gives them total liability protection across the board and then they're admittedly going to take most of these vaccines and make them semi-mandatory, by the way.

00:15:51.000 By that I mean, it's not really mandatory, but they try to intimidate you by color of law and tell you it is, but then in this new law they're trying to pass, there is forced inoculations and quarantines, and it really builds a whole new, what I would call a military complex, a force complex, a police-eye complex to force you to do this.

00:16:15.000 I mean, this is the model state self-emergency powers act that failed three years ago.

00:16:20.000 At most of the state levels were forced inoculation, forced round-ups.

00:16:24.000 They ordered millions of care workers, doctors, nurses, firemen, police to take it and the LA Times reported when Tommy Thompson finally canceled it that 99 plus percent said they're not going to take it.

00:16:40.000 So that kind of failed.

00:16:41.000 So now they're just doing it federally.

00:16:44.000 And they've already passed this Federally in the Homeland Security Act, page 76, has provisions for forced inoculations and taking over the states.

00:16:54.000 But now they're codifying it and funding.

00:16:58.000 You can pass a law, a draconian police state takeover mechanism, but then you've got to fund it.

00:17:06.000 It's like there's open moves.

00:17:08.000 They've been trying to get funding passed for domestic military and tens of billions of dollars for martial law.

00:17:15.000 That's been happening the last month.

00:17:17.000 And major publications have the headline, Bush pushes for martial law.

00:17:21.000 Even CNN for martial law funding.

00:17:23.000 I mean, they're actually trying to get the funding for it in front of everyone.

00:17:27.000 Instead of Iraq war funding, which is bad enough, it's open America war funding for NORTHCOM and our new military masters there at Colorado Springs.

00:17:39.000 Who, by the way, moved heaven and earth to get us off the radio in Colorado Springs.

00:17:42.000 We were on there for about two years.

00:17:43.000 Boy, they really pulled strings to get us off there.

00:17:47.000 They did not like us daily being on there.

00:17:49.000 That's okay, you know what?

00:17:51.000 People still go to infowars.com there and we still know everything that's going on out there and you didn't stop us.

00:17:57.000 We're going to defend America.

00:17:58.000 Just because a Hitlerian group has seized control of our military and government, doesn't mean you're going to succeed. 0.87

00:18:02.000 We're going to fight you.

00:18:03.000 We're the real Americans.

00:18:06.000 And it says, um, the proposed Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Agency, or BARDA, would be exempt from long-standing open records and meetings laws that apply to most government departments, and it's admittedly a, it's already set up, it's a giant bioweapons system, 36 level 4 bioweapons labs.

00:18:21.000 According to legislation approved October 18th by the Senate Health Committee, Those exemptions would streamline the development process, safeguard national security, and protect the proprietary interest of drug companies to Republican backers.

00:18:34.000 Then I actually have the bill here in front of me.

00:18:36.000 Nice little turn of the phrase there, protect the proprietary interest of drug companies.

00:18:41.000 That is total, it just merges them in with governmental powers and you can't sue them anymore.

00:18:48.000 The legislation also proposes Giving manufacturers immunity from liability in exchange for their participation in the public-private effort.

00:18:58.000 Oh yes, just, just, oh here's a billion for you, here's a billion for you, here's a billion for you.

00:19:02.000 Now just do whatever you want.

00:19:03.000 And it's been all over the news.

00:19:05.000 These are openly bio-weapons labs.

00:19:08.000 See, this is BioShield 2.

00:19:09.000 BioShield 1 passed, what, two and a half years ago.

00:19:13.000 They had that line in that Baltimore Sun article, thousands of gallons of liquid death.

00:19:18.000 That was the, that was the quote.

00:19:21.000 by one of the congressmen.

00:19:23.000 Nothing to do with fighting bio-attacks, folks.

00:19:26.000 This is just open mass funding and institutionalization and testing on the American people of bio-weapons, which has already been authorized by U.S. 0.64

00:19:36.000 Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B, which authorizes that we can use lethal chemical, biological, radiological Devices on the American people for any research reason or any other reason we see fit.

00:19:53.000 So, uh, yeah.

00:19:56.000 We'll, uh, come back and take some calls, get into a bunch of other news.

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00:24:34.000 And then I'm going to get into Embedded Time reporter says that Bush openly lied about Iraqi security forces leading the attacks And then the reporter lies and says against Al-Qaeda.

00:24:44.000 Folks, anyone that doesn't submit to world government and basically snort a line of depleted uranium is Al-Qaeda. 0.92

00:24:53.000 So we'll get into that and just so much more.

00:24:55.000 Right now let's go to Rose in South Carolina.

00:24:57.000 Rose, welcome.

00:25:00.000 I heard there's a Canadian come out with this thing about we're going to have a, like an alien invasion, we're going to have a war.

00:25:07.000 Well, if everybody would read, I hate to get off in Scripture because it's so diverse, people have such a diverse opinion about Scripture, but in the second chapters of Romans, it says, even him, that's talking about the wicked, the wicked one, or the devil, even him who's coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs, And lying wonders!

00:25:31.000 Now, people are getting off into this alien thing, and I tell you, they're going to be deceived if you read on down there, it talks about people being deceived.

00:25:40.000 If the News-Media is putting this out, people better question it, and think about it twice before they latch on to this alien invasion.

00:25:48.000 Because Kissinger said, that's the one way they could take control of the public.

00:25:54.000 No, he did say that.

00:25:55.000 Ronald Reagan said that.

00:25:56.000 That has really been discussed quite a few times.

00:25:59.000 uh... rose and uh... for those who don't know the former canadian defense minister uh... he's also the former deputy prime minister uh... that's the equivalent of vice president he's gone public in a big news conference saying that uh... when he was in the government they had evidence of the u.s.

00:26:16.000 government with with advanced spacecraft and in contact with aliens and that they may be getting ready to start a war and that bush wants to build bases on the moon with particle beams to shoot down flying saucers And see, you know, when I talk about...

00:26:30.000 Implantable microchips, I have the evidence.

00:26:32.000 When I talk about government leaders being devil worshippers, we have evidence.

00:26:36.000 You know, we talk about so many things that I find hard to believe, but we can confirm them, we can verify them.

00:26:42.000 Now certainly it's a sexy topic, it's an interesting topic.

00:26:45.000 Something's going on there with these unidentified flying objects.

00:26:49.000 There's all these reports, all these sightings, but I don't get into it a lot because I'm about things I can totally prove.

00:26:54.000 I'm really, you know, kind of an old curmudgeon as they say, but When you do have this former defense minister, former vice president going public and saying this, we have to focus on it.

00:27:06.000 But I know this, this has been in Wired Magazine, it's been in the Washington Post, Paul Watson's book has a large juicy chapter Ordered out of chaos, I don't know, 30-something pages.

00:27:18.000 On this subject, we have government documents, we have admissions where the government admits they have huge hologram machines that can project a flying saucer, mothership, Buddha, Jesus, Allah, to freak people out.

00:27:31.000 If they have the right atmospheric conditions, they can project them in a giant 300-yard long flying saucer.

00:27:36.000 They admit that there are government plans to do this, to freak people out, to distract enemy forces.

00:27:43.000 There's the report from Iron Mountain, but we have other reports that have been declassified that we can confirm.

00:27:48.000 Iron Mountain is not confirmed.

00:27:50.000 So, and then Bill Clinton's former chief of staff is running this big disclosure project, UFO Group, that's tied in with his former defense minister.

00:27:59.000 So, there's a former Rothschild, I mean that's been in Wired Magazine, who's That's a former Rothschild.

00:28:07.000 There is a Rothschild of the Rothschild family who's involved in all this.

00:28:12.000 And so a lot of heavy hitters are involved, kind of promulgating the whole UFO situation.

00:28:19.000 And so I tend to agree with you.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, lying signs and wonders in the sky.

00:28:22.000 Yeah.

00:28:23.000 ...fixin' to make a move, and then say, well, we've been taken by aliens, you can't blame it on us.

00:28:29.000 But, the thing about it is, you have to search this out.

00:28:32.000 Look, I do believe they have got disks that would fly around, but what to say?

00:28:37.000 Our government has not already invented that themselves.

00:28:43.000 Well, but Rose, look, I have a timeline of books.

00:28:47.000 Uh, from back in the 60s.

00:28:50.000 That was my dad's when he was a young man.

00:28:52.000 And in there it shows U.S.

00:28:53.000 Air Force Marked Flying Saucers.

00:28:55.000 I mean, those are declassified, uh, 40 years ago.

00:28:59.000 I mean, the Germans had little jets that looked like flying saucers. 0.83

00:29:04.000 That's where the whole flying saucer thing started.

00:29:06.000 And this is, by the way, declassified and admitted.

00:29:09.000 They got several hundred of these and test flew dozens of them around the U.S.

00:29:12.000 and people saw flying saucers in the late 40s.

00:29:15.000 That's when it all began.

00:29:16.000 And it was Nazi jets that just had a batwing shape or almost a circular shape.

00:29:25.000 And the Terminator that shot out would shoot at you from that little round bed?

00:29:31.000 Yes.

00:29:33.000 All right, Alex.

00:29:33.000 Wow.

00:29:36.000 Thank you, Rose.

00:29:36.000 Thank you.

00:29:38.000 What did they call Foo Fighters?

00:29:41.000 The fighter pilots in World War II called them Foo Fighters.

00:29:45.000 And most of them, we can confirm, were Nazi aircraft.

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00:33:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:07.000 The T-Rex of political talk.

00:33:25.000 I'm going to go back into the calls and news as well.

00:33:32.000 We don't just go out on the satellite and the AM and FM and the microstations.

00:33:37.000 I've been on shortwave, I guess, for eight, nine years.

00:33:40.000 And it's great.

00:33:41.000 We have an international audience.

00:33:42.000 Again, I get letters from Indonesia, Africa, Russia, Venezuela.

00:33:48.000 I mean, it's wonderful.

00:33:49.000 And WWCR is the strongest, best we've found.

00:33:54.000 So I'm not criticizing WWCR.

00:33:57.000 It's always been my understanding That frequencies in the fives and the sevens are better at night than frequencies in the threes.

00:34:08.000 And we had an opportunity to move to frequencies in the sevens and the fives at night, so we did.

00:34:13.000 And folks, I'm not kidding.

00:34:15.000 In the last month, and I've just kind of ignored it because, you know, you get a few complaints, you don't know, I'm too busy to worry about stuff like that.

00:34:21.000 I mean, now it's got to be 500 phone calls saying people just cannot hear us at night.

00:34:28.000 And I'm too busy to track it down and talk to WWCR.

00:34:31.000 I know Jim Shepard had us.

00:34:32.000 I know that you, the listeners, have been calling.

00:34:34.000 I'm sure it's driving them up the wall.

00:34:35.000 I'm sure it's driving you, the listeners, up the wall.

00:34:39.000 I don't know.

00:34:40.000 I don't know why you could hear us great on 3210, but you can't hear us that well on frequencies like 7.465.

00:34:49.000 The second two hours and the first hour, 5.765.

00:34:53.000 I don't know.

00:34:55.000 In fact, if you could e-mail me, for those of you that are listening from wherever, that are also on the internet, to tipsandinfowars.com and give me specific frequency reports.

00:35:03.000 And folks, I normally don't pay attention to it.

00:35:06.000 I just come too busy.

00:35:06.000 But when you get maybe 50 phone calls saying, your show is coming in great, or the show before you is coming in great, at 8.59, but at 9 o'clock central, then, right then, it cuts out and it fades out and we can't hear you.

00:35:23.000 I mean, you know, you get four or five of those calls, you ignore it.

00:35:25.000 Oh, well, they're just being paranoid.

00:35:26.000 You start getting 50, 100 phone calls like that.

00:35:29.000 I mean, they're just pouring into my office, pouring into the network, pouring into WWCR.

00:35:33.000 I don't know.

00:35:34.000 Hey, experts, fix it.

00:35:36.000 Figure out a better frequency.

00:35:37.000 Figure out what's going on.

00:35:38.000 Tell me what to do.

00:35:40.000 Whatever.

00:35:42.000 I mean, literally, I just work all the time, and I can't... I said switch these frequencies because I thought they'd be even better.

00:35:49.000 And so, I don't know.

00:35:51.000 I mean, we've got all these big shortwave experts out there.

00:35:53.000 Maybe you can call in and tell me what to do.

00:35:56.000 Or give us a frequency report.

00:35:58.000 Uh-oh, we just did it with that.

00:35:59.000 We'll have two and a half hours of that now.

00:36:03.000 But it is really important.

00:36:05.000 Let's take a few calls and we'll get back on the news.

00:36:07.000 Who's up first here?

00:36:10.000 David in California.

00:36:11.000 You're on the air.

00:36:12.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:36:13.000 Alex, how are you doing?

00:36:14.000 Great, sir.

00:36:15.000 Welcome.

00:36:16.000 I'd like to talk about the Tuesday press conference by Rumsfeld and the head of the Joint Chiefs.

00:36:24.000 You're talking about the hour-long lie?

00:36:27.000 Yeah, that's about the white phosphorus?

00:36:30.000 Yes.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, that was disgraceful.

00:36:32.000 The Joint Chiefs, the head of the Joint Chiefs, I think he's the Marine Corps Commandant, and Rumsfeld, both of them lied to the public.

00:36:41.000 Because if you go to truthout.com, you're going to find half a dozen articles Uh, verifying the use of white phosphorus. 0.53

00:36:48.000 Well, that's ridiculous.

00:36:49.000 Rumsfeld has never lied. 0.95

00:36:50.000 The man is impeccable.

00:36:52.000 Anyway, he was lying to a couple of million people if they were watching the newscast.

00:36:58.000 The bottom line, he was... If white phosphorus is used to light up the sky, then it's not a weapon.

00:37:04.000 But the soldiers themselves, in the battlefield, in Fallujah, have claimed and bragged about using it to smoke out the people and the enemy.

00:37:13.000 They used it as a weapon.

00:37:15.000 It's a chemical weapon.

00:37:16.000 It's prohibited by the Geneva Convention.

00:37:19.000 Therefore, Mr. Rumsfeld, who has authorized it, along with the Marine Corps Commandant, Joint Chiefs, and the people in the field, are war criminals.

00:37:26.000 Yeah, I hear you.

00:37:27.000 You know, we kind of confuse this.

00:37:31.000 It is restricted because, just like napalm is, I know sir, but let me just add something.

00:37:41.000 To be specific though, to keep calling it a chemical weapon is kind of lawyer speak.

00:37:47.000 Sarin, VX, mustard gas, things like this are classical chemical weapons yes you can call white phosphorus a chemical weapon but really it's an incendiary bomb is the proper term for it is an incendiary it is an incendiary hold on a second it sir okay put him on hold put him on hold it is a incendiary it is an incendiary uh munition now go ahead sir i said what i had to say yeah when you use that

00:38:16.000 Sir, what you're doing is you're falling into a trap.

00:38:18.000 And I'm not mad at you, I'm just trying to explain something to you.

00:38:20.000 It is restricted by the Geneva Convention.

00:38:22.000 That's what the soldiers did in the field.

00:38:24.000 That's what the soldiers themselves claimed.

00:38:27.000 Sir, what you're doing is you're falling into a trap.

00:38:30.000 I'm not mad at you.

00:38:32.000 I'm just trying to explain something to you.

00:38:33.000 It is restricted by the Geneva Convention.

00:38:36.000 It is bad to use it, but it allows the neocons to come back and go, "It's not a chemical It's a device we use for marking.

00:38:46.000 It's a device we use for... It is an incendiary device.

00:38:51.000 And, I mean, for that matter, there are chemicals in a TNT armor-jacketed fragmentation bomb.

00:38:59.000 so you can call that a chemical weapon use it to light up guy they used it in the foxhole and i have a who's missing you you're missing we want to say I mean, I just want to try to define these white phosphorus munitions properly, that's all.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, I know what you're defining.

00:39:20.000 You're defining that you use it as something to illuminate the battlefield.

00:39:24.000 No, that's not.

00:39:24.000 No, that's what Rumsfeld was saying.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, okay.

00:39:27.000 Any case that was used as a weapon is illegal.

00:39:32.000 And not only that, but in Fallujah, The napalm, which is now called MX-77, has also been used.

00:39:42.000 These are also prohibited weapons under the Geneva Convention.

00:39:45.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

00:39:47.000 Let me try to, because it sounds like we're arguing, and we weren't arguing.

00:39:51.000 I'm just trying to make a point here.

00:39:53.000 When we call things by wrong names, then it allows people to discredit us.

00:40:01.000 And everybody's running around calling it a chemical weapon and confusing that with the fact that it is a restricted munition.

00:40:10.000 It is wrong to use it.

00:40:14.000 It is bad what happened in Fallujah.

00:40:17.000 The massacres in Afghanistan were wrong.

00:40:20.000 I do not disagree with you, sir.

00:40:24.000 They admittedly were using microwave weapons In Fallujah, aiming high-power microwaves at entire buildings, and making everyone get sick, and start throwing up, and basically frying them, and then going in and killing them.

00:40:41.000 All sorts of prohibited things have been used, and it's wrong, and it's bad.

00:40:46.000 Torture's wrong when foreign governments do it, it's wrong when our government does it.

00:40:50.000 White phosphorus is banned.

00:40:52.000 We shouldn't be using it.

00:40:54.000 Of course they're lying when they say it's to eliminate. 0.98

00:40:57.000 Of course it's being used to kill people.

00:41:00.000 Of course they drop it and it ignites and basically burns everybody that it comes in contact with when it hits your skin.

00:41:08.000 It's terrible, sir.

00:41:09.000 It's high-tech napalm.

00:41:12.000 But when we call it a chemical weapon, the proper definition of a chemical weapon is it's the chemical that kills you by the response it has with you at a cellular level.

00:41:24.000 An incendiary device kills you by the ignition, by the fiery response.

00:41:33.000 You're killed by the heat. 0.98

00:41:36.000 So it is, we are using incendiary, and I wouldn't even say we, the globalists are using incendiary, and you know there's all these sickos, Ann Coulter, the Reptoid, I'm being sarcastic there, I saw Ann Coulter on TV last night, I turned TV on for about 20 minutes, and there she was talking at a third grade level, with Sean Hannity, with O'Reilly interviewing her, And it was just, oh, the liberals are dumb, the liberals are threatening me, the liberals are saying they want to come after me. 0.98

00:42:04.000 And then they wouldn't listen to doing it. 0.98

00:42:06.000 It was all just made-up baloney. 1.00

00:42:09.000 And oh, how beautiful she is, and how everyone wants to rape her. 1.00

00:42:11.000 I mean, I've seen Ann Coulter, folks. 0.98

00:42:14.000 She actually scared me.

00:42:16.000 I actually stepped back.

00:42:17.000 She looked like... Have you ever seen the anorexic folks? 1.00

00:42:20.000 But she's real tall, looks like she's on stilts, and radiated demonicness. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Looked like some... She could be in horror movies today. 1.00

00:42:27.000 And I'm not attacking her for the way she looks, it's just that She's like a painted stick figure they put on TV, and she still looks ugly there. 0.99

00:42:35.000 I saw her hands last night, it was like Skeletor. 0.89

00:42:38.000 But the point is, she gets up on TV, and I've interviewed her, and she goes, ah, the Patriot Act, it doesn't affect citizens, it's all liberal lies, treason.

00:42:47.000 I said, Section 802 says that anybody engaging in a misdemeanor is a terrorist.

00:42:51.000 They have no rights.

00:42:52.000 And she goes, well, I haven't read that.

00:42:53.000 I haven't even read the bill.

00:42:56.000 Oh, but you've written a book about it.

00:42:57.000 And I'm thinking about her talking about the evil liberals while Bush has borrowed more money than all presidents combined before him, open borders promoting, calling it a fix for the immigration problem, pushing for the assault weapons ban, appointing all these anti-gun, pro-abortion judges, signing back onto UNESCO, new freedom initiatives.

00:43:17.000 I mean, it's just not true!

00:43:19.000 We've got Ann Coulter and Hillary Clinton and Chuckie Schumer and Lieberman and a hundred others piling on to how Bush has done a great job and this is a great war and we've got to stand behind our president.

00:43:29.000 I mean, it's just, it's a staged event.

00:43:34.000 And while I'm off Ann Coulter now, that's how my brain works, I run off rabbit trails.

00:43:41.000 Ann Coulter wrote an editorial, I don't know, six, eight months ago, where she said, take the gloves off, kill more innocents, just start mowing everybody down. 0.99

00:43:48.000 That'll teach them, which is total baloney.

00:43:51.000 Every major military stratagem book that has been time tested and proved tells you the opposite.

00:43:58.000 You start killing innocent people, you're going to lose.

00:44:02.000 Okay?

00:44:02.000 I mean, even if you want to win this phony war, they're doing everything diametrically opposed to winning it.

00:44:07.000 And lo and behold, we've got 1983 battle plans from the Israelis, saying we need to use the U.S. 0.78

00:44:12.000 to go in and balkanize the place and commit abuses, and send the place into civil war, and keep U.S. 0.73

00:44:18.000 forces there forever.

00:44:20.000 And then what do the PNAC boys say?

00:44:21.000 What's P-2-O-G say in 2000 and 2002? 0.81

00:44:26.000 We need to go in there and balkanize and create a state of civil war and a breakdown of the society as a pretext to stay there for at least 20 years. 0.90

00:44:34.000 The battle plan is to lose!

00:44:37.000 Do you understand that?

00:44:40.000 I don't want to hear we've got to win.

00:44:42.000 I don't want to hear about victory.

00:44:43.000 When they feed you that line, the globalists make trillions of dollars and they could stay there five years.

00:44:49.000 They've already made $400 billion.

00:44:51.000 They will make trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions and have a base to attack Syria and Iran and keep that oil from flowing, which they'll make trillions off of in the aggregate. 0.52

00:45:01.000 And have a domestic diversion here and a balkanization situation and a laboratory to create torturers and checkpoint operators by the hundreds of thousands to come back here and be cops. 0.74

00:45:12.000 You want to know what the war is about?

00:45:14.000 That's it! 1.00

00:45:14.000 So stop being stupid! 1.00

00:45:20.000 Folks, that's what's happening. 1.00

00:45:23.000 That's what's going on.

00:45:24.000 And when they just sit off the side of the highway randomly shooting cars and laughing, Cars, driving around full of families in many cases.

00:45:33.000 I mean, I've seen the video.

00:45:35.000 We've posted the video.

00:45:36.000 It's been on national TV.

00:45:38.000 Just shooting up cars and people pouring out.

00:45:40.000 You see a little shape, poor little kid, splattered, piles of dead bodies.

00:45:44.000 The photos, the video, it's all on the web, folks.

00:45:46.000 Just randomly running around shooting people.

00:45:48.000 Running over people's cars because they might have stole a piece of wood out of a field. 0.81

00:45:53.000 And laughing while you do it. 0.97

00:45:54.000 It's just psychopathic.

00:45:56.000 They know that when they get shot at in one town, Little village.

00:46:01.000 They go and bulldoze every date palm, everything that's producing.

00:46:06.000 We're talking 800 year old fields, 100 year old trees plus.

00:46:11.000 They know that when that happens, it causes total resistance.

00:46:17.000 They know. 0.94

00:46:18.000 They're not stupid. 0.96

00:46:19.000 I mean, the troops following it are just like the average American. 0.98

00:46:21.000 They don't know how many continents there are.

00:46:24.000 They don't know anything.

00:46:28.000 I use that example, but they don't know any basic data, any basic numbers, anything about history.

00:46:35.000 They don't know anything!

00:46:36.000 It's like we had British media here a few weeks ago in the studio, and he said, yeah, the cab driver was American, and he said, oh, you speak with an English accent.

00:46:46.000 English?

00:46:46.000 Is that where English comes from?

00:46:48.000 Is that England?

00:46:52.000 But I guarantee you that cab driver knows every sports score, what car his favorite batter drives, what the batter's mommy and daddy's name are, what his batting average was his junior year at UT. 0.96

00:47:12.000 I mean, the person's not stupid, they're mind-controlled to not know anything! 0.57

00:47:17.000 And so I'm sitting here talking about all this and the average person listening, the average neo-con or liberal just can't even get it! 0.98

00:47:24.000 I'm not going to spout your liberal fables.

00:47:26.000 I'm not going to spout your neocon fables. 0.96

00:47:28.000 They're all on the same team.

00:47:29.000 I'm not going to be part of it.

00:47:31.000 I know I'm preaching now, folks.

00:47:36.000 It's just that this is a complete and total fraud.

00:47:39.000 All of it is.

00:47:40.000 It's just a lie.

00:47:41.000 You tell the average person the war on drugs is meant to fail.

00:47:45.000 They don't understand that.

00:47:46.000 You tell them that the schools get more money the lower the test scores go, because that's actually what the Department of Education handbooks, plans, from 50 years ago, even before it was the Department of Education, state.

00:48:01.000 I mean, you can go read the white papers, and then you can watch them carry them out, and we post the white papers, we cover the white papers, we have the guest on, we have number two, Department of Education on, to tell you how they're in meetings, where they openly talk about how to dumb everybody down.

00:48:14.000 And we have the National Banking Association back in 1900 saying Americans are too smart.

00:48:18.000 We've got to pay for the schools and pay for the endowments and take over and dump these people down. 0.89

00:48:23.000 And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation here in Austin for an entire school just paid a million and a half bucks to change the curriculum openly to where they're not going to teach all the kids.

00:48:32.000 They're going to have early testing and decide what you're going to be and what you're going to do.

00:48:36.000 The European model.

00:48:39.000 Because Bill and Melinda Gates care about the little black kids so much, they pay for the vaccines to help them, and Avro goes, mmm, take your juicy vaccine, you'll be feeling real good. 0.51

00:48:49.000 And then here locally, I mean, just in my life, these monsters are here locally buying off the schools to control the curriculum to produce mindless, drooling sleighs, as if they haven't already ruined us enough! 0.97

00:49:02.000 I mean, it doesn't give me some sardonic pleasure to know the general public is so dumbed down and so distracted and so mindless, they can't even hardly tie their shoelaces. 0.88

00:49:13.000 People think it's cute to be lied to. 0.97

00:49:15.000 They think it's cute to be slaves.

00:49:16.000 They think it's cute to not know their head from a hole in the ground.

00:49:20.000 And I'm telling you, we're all in danger because of it.

00:49:21.000 You better start learning, folks.

00:49:23.000 You better start figuring out what's going on.

00:49:25.000 This isn't a joke.

00:49:26.000 This isn't a game.

00:49:27.000 Very serious.

00:49:28.000 Very evil.

00:49:29.000 People are in control.

00:49:32.000 Then they openly say they want to lose the war.

00:49:35.000 Then they can run around and say it, and then get on TV and talk about victory all day.

00:49:43.000 God help us.

00:49:43.000 God help those troops over there.

00:49:45.000 It's so sick.

00:49:48.000 Now Fallujah's wrong, folks.

00:49:50.000 It's wrong to... They wouldn't let any of the men under the age of 11 leave the city.

00:49:55.000 They said, evacuate the city or you're dead.

00:49:57.000 Then all men over the age of 11 Were turned away.

00:50:03.000 Many of those that did try to come through were put in camps.

00:50:05.000 A major city of hundreds and hundreds of thousands.

00:50:07.000 And then they just went in house by house and admittedly leveled one-third of the city.

00:50:12.000 Just slaughtering children, slaughtering women, mass murder, mass death, because some contractors got strung up.

00:50:21.000 So imagine the next time four people get killed in your town, will the U.S. 0.95

00:50:24.000 government come in and level a third of it and kill everybody? 0.97

00:50:27.000 Start dropping white phosphorus incendiary bombs on people, cremating them? 0.99

00:50:33.000 Yeah, we ought to nuke Fallujah. 0.99

00:50:35.000 How many times did you hear that? 1.00

00:50:37.000 Just kill every one of them Americans. 1.00

00:50:39.000 Just kill them all. 1.00

00:50:41.000 I thought we were there to save them. 1.00

00:50:44.000 We gotta kill them before they kill us. 1.00

00:50:46.000 The Pentagon's own plan is to create jihad. 1.00

00:50:50.000 It's stated, you fool. 1.00

00:50:52.000 We're meant to lose this, you idiots. 1.00

00:50:54.000 They control the Arabs. 1.00

00:50:56.000 A new world order controls them.

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00:53:55.000 Transcription by CastingWords Our government gave him 30 plus million to attack Iran. 0.81

00:54:20.000 Our government told him, go ahead and invade Kuwait. 0.99

00:54:23.000 He was our boy, that is the globalist boy.

00:54:25.000 BCCI, Clark Clifford, Bush Senior, all of them.

00:54:29.000 James Baker.

00:54:29.000 And then they set him up, you kill a million plus of them, up until two and a half years ago with the new invasion.

00:54:37.000 Now, conservatively, another 150,000. 0.94

00:54:39.000 DU, their whole country, with just deadly radiation and poison. 0.86

00:54:45.000 And it's just sick.

00:54:46.000 And look, let's just be honest about it. 1.00

00:54:48.000 The neocons get on TV and say it's about love and freedom, but then all they're paid for are mouthpieces that go, murder, kill, kill all Arabs, kill, kill, kill them all, they're the devil's seed. 1.00

00:54:58.000 Bushes of the Lord with skull and bones. 0.99

00:55:01.000 Just understand folks, the plan is to create worldwide jihad and out of that bring worldwide crisis and then bring in world government to deal with it and the EU sits out the whole time acting like the good cop.

00:55:11.000 When they're all part and parcel of the same thing.

00:55:14.000 And our government in the 50s started radicalizing the Muslims and printing up the radical Korans and Hadiths for the Madrasas. 0.98

00:55:21.000 That's public!

00:55:22.000 All over, radicalizing, making them as radical as possible.

00:55:25.000 To destabilize those countries.

00:55:29.000 I'm just sick of it!

00:55:30.000 It's historical fact, and you need to stick it in your pipe, and you need to smoke it! 1.00

00:55:34.000 I hear you sickos call and talk on the radio, just kill every one of them herbs! 1.00

00:55:38.000 They want to kill us! 1.00

00:55:40.000 You need to volunteer, go over to Iraq, and you need to walk up to that little two-year-old child walking down the street, and then say that to them. 1.00

00:55:47.000 And I know some of you do, you just walk up and, I'll just kill another one, alright! 1.00

00:55:53.000 But it's just sick! 1.00

00:55:55.000 It's totally sick!

00:55:56.000 You make me sick!

00:55:58.000 Now, I know we've got Andy and Michael and Melissa and others and Paul, but I'm told Max in Ohio disagrees with me, so he may have called in at the end of the line, but he's first up.

00:56:09.000 Max, go ahead.

00:56:10.000 Do you think white phosphorus should be classified as a chemical weapon?

00:56:14.000 No.

00:56:15.000 I think white phosphorus should be used.

00:56:17.000 I was in Vietnam for 15 months.

00:56:20.000 I was an F.O.

00:56:21.000 for the heavy mortars, and we use white phosphorus a lot.

00:56:25.000 It's a good weapon.

00:56:26.000 It's a deterrent.

00:56:28.000 And I am not for that war.

00:56:30.000 I think we should not be over there, but to protect our troops and to help our troops from getting killed more and more.

00:56:37.000 But I read these are like sixth generation phosphorus bombs.

00:56:40.000 This isn't just the old thing that you were using.

00:56:43.000 This goes out as a cluster bomb and spreads out as a dust and then just, it's horrible.

00:56:50.000 Well, see what I'm familiar with is the old mortar round type.

00:56:53.000 Well, describe that to us.

00:56:55.000 It was just like an HE or a smoke round.

00:57:01.000 It went out, it burst.

00:57:03.000 It had a bursting radius of about 50 meters.

00:57:07.000 So it would have proximity detector and would blow up wood?

00:57:10.000 Yes, and we could air burst it also.

00:57:16.000 And what it done, it burned like They say, you know, and the only way you could do it was smother it with mud or immerse it in water or something like that.

00:57:26.000 But we fought around Coochee, a bad area for the Viet Cong. 0.99

00:57:32.000 And I was an infantryman.

00:57:34.000 And we saw it.

00:57:37.000 And we used it quite a bit.

00:57:39.000 And it was quite effective.

00:57:42.000 I'm not for using it on kids or anything like that.

00:57:44.000 But when you're fighting an enemy that is fighting I don't care what Washington says, because I do not agree with the politicians.

00:57:51.000 No, I understand.

00:57:53.000 If you're in a fire base and you're getting charged by people, I'm sure white phosphorus is great. 1.00

00:57:57.000 Yeah, and we're not fighting a nice war over there.

00:58:00.000 It's a guerrilla war also.

00:58:02.000 You know, I'm going to hold you over, so I don't mean to interrupt you, but I want to get this in.

00:58:05.000 Did you... I mean, you guys didn't call it a chemical weapon.

00:58:09.000 You called it incendiary, right?

00:58:10.000 Exactly.

00:58:12.000 So why are these people calling it a chemical weapon?

00:58:14.000 That's just for propaganda purposes. 0.95

00:58:15.000 Because they're a bunch of knuckleheads. 0.98

00:58:20.000 Okay, well I want to hear more about Vietnam. 0.95

00:58:22.000 Stay there, please.

00:58:23.000 Because you called in and I don't want to interrupt you.

00:58:25.000 I just wanted to get all my questions in.

00:58:27.000 Stay there, Max, and then we'll let you finish up.

00:58:29.000 And then we'll go to Andy and Michael and Melissa and Paul and many others.

00:58:34.000 And our guest is coming up in 30 minutes with the cameras in the school bathrooms.

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00:58:48.000 Hello.

00:58:51.000 Hello.

00:58:53.000 The End Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:01.000 You want answers?

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 Alright, in the last hour we got off into white phosphorus being called a chemical weapon by some of the anti-war people.

00:59:23.000 And that's only going to hurt us in the end.

00:59:25.000 I'm against the war.

00:59:26.000 Our caller, who's a Vietnam vet, is against the war.

00:59:29.000 The torture, the indiscriminate blowing up of buildings full of men, women, and children in Fallujah is wrong.

00:59:35.000 And white phosphorus is a restricted Uh, weapon to be used, uh, in, in, in most cases.

00:59:43.000 And now they have these high-tech generations of it where it's a cluster bomb and it spreads out over a large area.

00:59:49.000 And they did use it on civilians and it's really bad.

00:59:52.000 But, then when we start calling it a chemical weapon, that's just, there's chemicals in a TNT jacketed fragmentation thousand-pound bomb dropped out of a B-52.

01:00:02.000 So it's just to start calling everything chemical weapons, then lessens it in people's minds what real chemical weapons do.

01:00:09.000 I mean, real chemical weapons, you spray it out of an airplane and it kills everybody that gets a whiff of it.

01:00:15.000 Because it's the chemical that kills you by a chemical interaction with the metabolic rate of the body.

01:00:22.000 You know, to start calling incendiary bombs or incendiary sprays chemical is dishonest.

01:00:28.000 I think we should have left when we captured Saddam Hussein. 0.97

01:00:31.000 here folks it really gets frustrating go ahead max vietnam veteran if you have anything else you want to add about you use white phosphorus uh describe this earlier generation of white phosphorus you use and then i want to get your take on the war sir um i think we should have left one of the capture sodom was saying we should have pulled our troops out and told them to defend their own country uh but the white phosphorus that we used it was marked on the boxes that came in incendiary device.

01:01:00.000 Thank you.

01:01:03.000 Well that's what it is!

01:01:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:01:05.000 That's what James Weapons Encyclopedia listed as.

01:01:08.000 So, I mean, using it to help our troops defend themselves, I am for.

01:01:15.000 But for killing just innocent people, no.

01:01:18.000 I'm not for that.

01:01:19.000 But there are rules of engagement and obviously if you're stuck in a position being charged by infantry, which you say you were, I know it was used in Vietnam, and you're firing mortars at them specifically, that shouldn't be a restricted weapon.

01:01:35.000 What's being discussed here is There's all different types being used over there, but they have these new cluster bombs that do it, and it's just a mass killing device, and it's being used on the general public.

01:01:48.000 That's not good. 0.57

01:01:49.000 I'm sure you've heard these neocons say, let's just kill everybody in Fallujah and nuke the city. 0.99

01:01:54.000 Right. 0.99

01:01:55.000 There's one other thing I got.

01:01:57.000 I've been listening to you for over four years, almost every night. 0.99

01:02:02.000 And your nighttime frequency sucks. 0.99

01:02:06.000 I'll just tell you plain out. 0.99

01:02:09.000 Has it gotten worse since we switched?

01:02:10.000 Oh, terrible.

01:02:11.000 Terrible.

01:02:12.000 I can't hardly get you at all.

01:02:13.000 Nights I can get you, it's when the weather is just so-so and the conditions are just right.

01:02:18.000 I've been listening to Joyce and Dave because I can't get you.

01:02:23.000 Well, at least you got them to listen to.

01:02:26.000 So 32.10 was better for you?

01:02:28.000 Oh, much better.

01:02:29.000 Yeah.

01:02:30.000 Well, maybe I'll talk to WWCR and try to switch back over to 32.10.

01:02:34.000 I just knew that, I mean, normally a higher, a little bit higher, a mid-range frequency like a 5.765 should be better.

01:02:42.000 So, I mean, perhaps it's... Well, 58.50.

01:02:47.000 They come in pretty clear.

01:02:48.000 Alright.

01:02:49.000 Well, sir, I appreciate your call.

01:02:50.000 I really appreciate it.

01:02:51.000 Yeah, it might be that transmitter.

01:02:53.000 It might be the power level on that.

01:02:56.000 Oh, sir, are you still there?

01:02:58.000 He's gone.

01:02:58.000 I was going to ask him.

01:02:59.000 The report we keep getting is that 5.765 comes in fine, and then right when I come on... I mean, I've got this from a lot of people.

01:03:06.000 So, where there's smoke, there's fire.

01:03:08.000 But for some reason, it then drops dramatically.

01:03:11.000 So that's... I guess I need to tune in myself.

01:03:15.000 I used to do that in the past.

01:03:16.000 I just can't monitor, you know, oh, this Am and FM station is only carrying you two hours now, or this one's carrying you six hours.

01:03:22.000 I can't call and thank stations.

01:03:24.000 I can't call and complain.

01:03:25.000 I can't... And I know they're getting beat up over there.

01:03:28.000 I don't think they're doing it on purpose.

01:03:29.000 I know I'm getting beat up over here.

01:03:31.000 And they pointed out, though, that I asked for those frequency changes because I thought, oh, these frequencies are open.

01:03:37.000 They must be better.

01:03:37.000 Well, I've got to make a decision here.

01:03:42.000 Because it's become a major issue.

01:03:45.000 All right.

01:03:46.000 We'll be right back, folks, on the other side of this quick break to cover more news and take your calls.

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01:07:33.000 Embedded Time reporter Bush lied in speech yesterday about Iraqi security forces.

01:07:39.000 President Bush claimed that Iraqi security forces primarily led the assault on the city of Tal Afar.

01:07:48.000 Bush highlighted it as a especially clear sign of the progress Iraqi security forces were making in Iraq.

01:07:55.000 And you know they claim they have a hundred and fifty groups of these soldiers.

01:07:58.000 And then the brass is asked and they admit, no we have three.

01:08:02.000 And that's in two and a half plus years they have three little groups of these soldiers and they have to be led by U.S.

01:08:10.000 troops or they retreat every time.

01:08:13.000 But militiamen won't say no, no, they're leading now, they're leading assaults.

01:08:18.000 But then notice the spin from the time in that.

01:08:20.000 He says they're fighting Al-Qaeda, which is just now everyone they're fighting, doesn't matter what group it is, even if it's an open religious group that's against, even if you believe Al-Qaeda exists outside of an intelligence agency controlled by the West, it's groups who are openly, different sects of Islam, who are openly not connected in any way to even the false Al-Qaeda.

01:08:43.000 But they'll still call them Al-Qaeda.

01:08:45.000 And then listen to the spin of Senator Warner from Virginia, who is particularly evil.

01:08:51.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

01:08:53.000 Here it is.

01:08:54.000 You know, this is not one of those shows where we take sides.

01:08:56.000 I really try to just look at facts on the ground.

01:08:59.000 And the President, in his speech, talked about the Battle of Tal Afar.

01:09:02.000 And in his speech today, he said that it was led primarily by Iraqi security forces, 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by 5 coalition battalions providing support.

01:09:10.000 He used this as compared to the Battle of Fallujah as an example of how much better the Iraqis are doing.

01:09:15.000 Earlier, I talked to Time Magazine's Michael Ware, the Baghdad Bureau Chief, who was embedded during the entire battle.

01:09:21.000 I want to play you what he said about the Iraqi units he saw.

01:09:26.000 I was in that battle from the very beginning to the very end.

01:09:30.000 I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with Al Qaeda.

01:09:36.000 They were not leading, they were being led by the U.S.

01:09:40.000 Green Beret Special Forces with them.

01:09:42.000 Green Berets who were following an American plan of attack, who were advancing with these Iraqi units as and when they were told to do so by the American battle planners.

01:09:54.000 The Iraqis led nothing. 1.00

01:09:56.000 Do you think the President was correct in saying that this was an Iraqi victory, that the Iraqis were leading the way?

01:10:01.000 Well, I'll let the commanders sort that out, but first I respect those journalists that embed themselves, and I accept as a credible description what you've just put forward.

01:10:13.000 But you didn't hear him say they cut and run like they did in Fallujah.

01:10:18.000 You didn't hear him say that the Iraqis dropped their arms.

01:10:21.000 He said they were fighting.

01:10:23.000 Now, it may well have been that the battle plan was drawn up by the coalition forces, probably the U.S.

01:10:29.000 lead it.

01:10:32.000 So, there's your spin.

01:10:33.000 Cuts off quickly there, but that's a little clip from CNN.

01:10:37.000 Look, forget that lie.

01:10:40.000 That's nothing compared to saying that there are 144 battle groups or battalions.

01:10:46.000 I forget what they call them over there.

01:10:48.000 In the Iraqi security forces that have been set up, the Iraqi National Guard, and then generals just a few months ago said, no, no, we've got three groups ready.

01:11:01.000 Just, just, not 140-something, three!

01:11:06.000 And, look, folks, we were told we would be there for two months.

01:11:10.000 We were told that they'd be back in time for Christmas.

01:11:14.000 They were lied to.

01:11:15.000 There is already a national draft.

01:11:18.000 Tens of thousands of soldiers, in some cases that have served 23 years in the military.

01:11:23.000 They try to retire, and they say, no, you signed a contract 23 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, 3 years ago.

01:11:32.000 You didn't read the fine print.

01:11:33.000 We're keeping you.

01:11:34.000 They've already served.

01:11:35.000 Folks, in World War II, you had to fly 22 missions.

01:11:40.000 It was a catch-22, though, because 55% of the time over Europe you died.

01:11:44.000 It was that type of level of fighting.

01:11:47.000 Unbelievable casualty numbers.

01:11:50.000 But still, 22 missions.

01:11:51.000 In Vietnam, you would have to go for one tour, what, 11 months.

01:11:58.000 No one in modern history has ever made an army.

01:12:01.000 Unless you talk about Hitler or the Soviets. 0.57

01:12:04.000 Fight for more than one tour consecutively.

01:12:06.000 And then even then, the levels of battle fatigue, the breakdown, the falling apart, these are like machines.

01:12:13.000 They're like a bulldozer.

01:12:14.000 They're like a sewing machine.

01:12:15.000 They're like any machine.

01:12:17.000 They're like tires.

01:12:18.000 They can only go so far statistically.

01:12:21.000 And then post-traumatic stress, breakdowns, violence, you can only stay at a super heightened level so long. 0.99

01:12:32.000 Unless they just stay in the green zone and suck their thumbs.

01:12:35.000 That's why generals on average spend four months there. 0.92

01:12:37.000 Why are they always having commanders there on average four months?

01:12:41.000 Because they don't want to stay.

01:12:42.000 Tommy Frank says, I'm leaving.

01:12:45.000 I'm retiring.

01:12:48.000 And another thing is, the generals, even though a lot of them are corrupt New World Order types, they keep trying to do what needs to be done to win.

01:12:53.000 Nuh-uh, that's not the battle plan, buddy.

01:12:56.000 You're getting pulled out.

01:12:58.000 How many generals did they send over there who were supposed to be there for a year and two weeks in?

01:13:03.000 You're relieved.

01:13:05.000 Remember?

01:13:07.000 We're going to get the water on.

01:13:08.000 The Iraqis are going to run things. 1.00

01:13:09.000 We're getting your power on.

01:13:10.000 We're going to do this.

01:13:12.000 Boom.

01:13:13.000 That's not what's going to happen.

01:13:14.000 You're removed.

01:13:16.000 General Karpinski.

01:13:18.000 Hey, I went into these areas.

01:13:19.000 The CIA is running the prisons.

01:13:21.000 I think something's going on.

01:13:22.000 Oh, yeah, something is going on.

01:13:23.000 You're torturing people.

01:13:25.000 And you're going to jail, lady. 1.00

01:13:26.000 And you're going to take the fall.

01:13:27.000 No, I'm not. 0.97

01:13:32.000 Secretary White was a Enron crook, folks. 1.00

01:13:35.000 He took members of Congress and legislatures on tours of fake trading rooms, with fake computers, with fake screens, with fake trading. 0.52

01:13:44.000 Enron, at the end of the day, would just tell you what the price was and charge you what they wanted, just like much of our stock market and the mercantile.

01:13:50.000 It's just total fraud, folks.

01:13:51.000 I mean, this is one of their boys, and he says, listen, we're going to lose this.

01:13:56.000 He wasn't that evil.

01:13:57.000 He wasn't that deep down the rabbit hole.

01:14:00.000 You don't think White actually ran things.

01:14:02.000 He said, we need 450,000 troops.

01:14:04.000 Listen, Rumsfeld said, get your stuff and get out!

01:14:09.000 But all the generals say, sir, I just want to win.

01:14:13.000 Get out of here! 0.99

01:14:14.000 You're fired!

01:14:18.000 Treasury Secretary O'Neill.

01:14:20.000 How many others?

01:14:22.000 We've got Powell's former big globalist aide.

01:14:24.000 We've got Shkrokov, National Security Advisor.

01:14:27.000 We've got all these people saying, and at certain levels they're distancing themselves to make it then look like it was all just Bush and some rogue people.

01:14:36.000 They are carrying out globalist operations, and they're meant to fail.

01:14:39.000 But even a lot of old-timers, to see this happening, they're not even going along with it.

01:14:46.000 And you've got the Shirley Neocon radio listener, who's not conservative, who loves open borders, loves gun control, loves the biggest debt ever, just loves to just smirk and put W stickers all over their cars.

01:15:00.000 It's disgusting.

01:15:03.000 Let's go back to the calls here.

01:15:04.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Andy in Illinois.

01:15:07.000 Andy, go ahead.

01:15:08.000 Alex, you're a great American.

01:15:09.000 Well, you are, my friend.

01:15:10.000 What's on your mind?

01:15:11.000 You're a true patriot.

01:15:12.000 First of all, can I plug my abilia?

01:15:16.000 AM 1520 WLUV in Rockford, Illinois.

01:15:19.000 You know, we need to plug our affiliates more.

01:15:21.000 Tell folks about that fine station.

01:15:23.000 It's a great station.

01:15:24.000 It's the only locally owned station here in town.

01:15:28.000 The person that owns the station has owned it for 43 years.

01:15:33.000 Why don't you plug when the show's on?

01:15:35.000 Pardon me?

01:15:36.000 Tell them when they broadcast the show.

01:15:37.000 That's right.

01:15:38.000 From 11am to 2pm.

01:15:39.000 So if you're a truck driver, you know, traveling in the area, or a business person, salesman, Tell folks the region of Illinois and tell them the time.

01:15:49.000 Okay, it's 11 a.m.

01:15:51.000 to 2 p.m.

01:15:52.000 Central Standard Time.

01:15:53.000 That's northern Illinois, 15 miles from the Wisconsin border.

01:15:58.000 The frequency also goes up into parts of southern Wisconsin and going east it reaches the Chicago suburbs.

01:16:05.000 We're about 70 miles northwest of Chicago.

01:16:08.000 That's right.

01:16:09.000 And I want to thank all of our affiliates.

01:16:12.000 We are small.

01:16:12.000 We don't have the time to thank them and to serve them a lot of times, but they're great.

01:16:17.000 And I guess we've got about three great affiliates that carry the show in Illinois now.

01:16:21.000 And I believe the fine station you mentioned.

01:16:24.000 Give us the frequency again.

01:16:25.000 A.M.

01:16:26.000 1520.

01:16:26.000 That's right, 1520.

01:16:27.000 They're the only one, I believe from memory, that goes live.

01:16:31.000 And we're very, very thankful for that affiliate.

01:16:33.000 And everybody in that area listening right now, tell people, roll down your window, tell them to tune in right now to 1520.

01:16:39.000 And that's locally owned.

01:16:41.000 The old school mom and pop shop radio.

01:16:44.000 That's who picks us up, is proudly owned stations.

01:16:48.000 And we do get them the ratings.

01:16:51.000 After, on average, after we're carrying six months to a year, even if they don't buy the book, and stations can get a look at it, you will see that we will build you an audience.

01:16:59.000 The truth sells.

01:17:00.000 The people want it.

01:17:01.000 What else is on your mind, sir?

01:17:03.000 A lot of things.

01:17:04.000 First of all, if anybody doesn't believe Iraq is meant to be a quagmire, just look at the border situation in Iraq.

01:17:11.000 We are not patrolling the southern border.

01:17:13.000 It reminds me so much of Vietnam.

01:17:17.000 That allows more surgeons to move in from Syria.

01:17:20.000 So if anybody's arguing with a neocon, just tell them that.

01:17:24.000 Why aren't we securing the border in Iraq?

01:17:27.000 Well, they'll say, Bush, gee, he's not perfect.

01:17:30.000 He don't mean it.

01:17:32.000 And the next point I wanted to make, it's amazing to me, Alex, how if you talk to a neocon, they don't believe that America is becoming a police state.

01:17:46.000 But try talking to somebody.

01:17:47.000 I have a couple friends.

01:17:48.000 One who migrated from Ukraine.

01:17:50.000 Another one from Russia.

01:17:52.000 This country is reminding them of what they escaped.

01:17:55.000 They're wondering why they even migrated here.

01:17:59.000 I know a lot of Russians and a lot of Poles and a lot of Greeks and people that have seen police states that are moving back home.

01:18:07.000 I mean, they're getting scared enough to sell successful businesses and leave.

01:18:13.000 And one suggestion I have for you before I let you go on your show.

01:18:19.000 I'd like to hear more film clips.

01:18:20.000 I turned a friend on to you and he had mentioned 9-11 being an inside job. 0.76

01:18:28.000 And just like me the first time I heard you say it, I thought you were crazy.

01:18:32.000 I know better now because I got martial law.

01:18:35.000 It would be kind of cool to hear you play like Larry Silverstein clips more.

01:18:39.000 You know, I've done that.

01:18:40.000 I've also thought about just taking whole segments of martial law and playing them on air.

01:18:46.000 Do it more often and when you have a report, let us know.

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01:22:53.000 Well, I won't back down.

01:23:04.000 You know I won't back down.

01:23:07.000 Folks, you have to shift your thinking.

01:23:10.000 I'll set the game.

01:23:11.000 When they lose the war on drugs, when more drugs come in, they get to put more people in the private prisons competing with our jobs, and if you study it, it really is a select drug cartel controlled by elements of our government that is shipping in the majority of the heroin and cocaine.

01:23:29.000 And it's the same crowd pushing Ritalin and Prozac on your kids, whose molecules are even more deadly than heroin and cocaine.

01:23:36.000 At their molecular structure, they're more dangerous.

01:23:40.000 And it's the same thing with this war.

01:23:42.000 When you read PNAC, and you read P2OG documents, and you read Israeli documents, this is the plan. 0.89

01:23:49.000 Listen to me, folks.

01:23:51.000 Listen to me.

01:23:52.000 This is not my opinion.

01:23:54.000 If you care about the troops, we've got to get them home.

01:23:56.000 And I don't want to hear that it's going to make Iraq fall into an Islamic Republic.

01:24:00.000 Our government has given it over to Islamists. 0.99

01:24:04.000 That's been the plan.

01:24:06.000 And to just keep our people there as a turkey shoots, so Halliburton can make money, is a absolute fraud.

01:24:12.000 Go ahead and finish up the point you were making, Andy, in Illinois, listening to us on 1520.

01:24:17.000 Yes, Alex.

01:24:19.000 I tell my friends about some of the news I've heard on your show.

01:24:22.000 Like, for example, the new Freedom Initiative.

01:24:25.000 And they'll ask me, where did you hear that from?

01:24:27.000 Well, Radio Talk's host, Alex Jones, and they've never heard you.

01:24:30.000 Oh, another Rush Limbaugh?

01:24:32.000 The point I'm making is I'm sure a lot of your other listeners would like to hear you announce the press releases you get these, you know, the sources that you get these stories from.

01:24:41.000 But we can really back up what we're saying.

01:24:43.000 No, I hear you and I appreciate your call, sir.

01:24:45.000 I mean, I'll say it right now.

01:24:46.000 We do post it.

01:24:48.000 Every week we post something about New Freedom.

01:24:51.000 I mean, you're right in the belly of the beast in Illinois.

01:24:53.000 I mean, it's been in the Chicago Tribune.

01:24:54.000 It's been in the Chicago Sun.

01:24:56.000 I think that's the name of it.

01:24:58.000 It's been in all those papers that they're going to even go after pregnant women now and make them be psychologically tested. 0.60

01:25:03.000 And you're actually the state where they're trying to implement.

01:25:06.000 And Texas, for some reason, is like your sister on this.

01:25:09.000 They're trying it here.

01:25:10.000 And they passed it earlier this year.

01:25:12.000 I've had Ron Paul, a congressman, on.

01:25:14.000 We've read the bill.

01:25:16.000 I mean, it's all documented.

01:25:20.000 It's hard to believe they're trying to force psychologically test and drug, but it's really happening.

01:25:24.000 Melissa in Texas, thanks for holding.

01:25:26.000 Welcome.

01:25:28.000 The other day, someone called in and mentioned Joan Vion and Prince Charles.

01:25:34.000 And then you said something that confused me, so I'd like to see if we could help me understand a little better.

01:25:42.000 You mentioned the Antichrist, along with Joan Vion, and said that her book on that, something about that.

01:25:48.000 No, I think that I've interviewed Joan many times.

01:25:51.000 I think she does a wonderful job, I said, going to all these globalist meetings and uncovering it.

01:25:56.000 We need to get her on.

01:25:58.000 But I believe I've heard her talk about Yeah, some of the other people discussing, you know, could Prince Charles be the Antichrist?

01:26:05.000 I was saying, I don't think I totally agree with her on that, but... The book that I have by her is called Prince Charles the Sustainable Prince, and in that book she just talks about how he's pushing the United Nations agenda To rewild and get rid of humans.

01:26:21.000 No I know and I think mentally I may have crossed that over with the book Prince Charles and a Cup of Tea written by someone else saying he's an antichrist and I think I've heard her being asked the question on air.

01:26:33.000 No, Joan only gets into factual stuff so that might be.

01:26:36.000 That's the kind of mistakes I make is I like mix things together sometimes.

01:26:39.000 I just wanted to clarify for other people so that they wouldn't be you know, pulled away from looking into her work.

01:26:47.000 Oh, I think it's one.

01:26:47.000 No, I mean, she's very factual, goes in specifically.

01:26:51.000 They said Joan Vion, and what do you think about Prince Charles, you know, being the Antichrist?

01:26:55.000 Right.

01:26:55.000 And I just said, well, I don't, I was kind of like, if she's saying that, I don't agree with it.

01:26:59.000 But I think she just does great research.

01:27:00.000 Right, yeah.

01:27:01.000 So, you know, moving 100 miles an hour here with home girls. 1.00

01:27:04.000 And I just wanted people to be, you know, clear on that.

01:27:08.000 And that's the responsibility I've got.

01:27:10.000 People listen to every word I say.

01:27:12.000 I know!

01:27:13.000 See, yeah, so I, basically, I was trying to, you know, clarify for myself and in case other people misunderstood also.

01:27:20.000 Hey, Melissa, what do you think about putting the cameras in the school bathrooms? 0.80

01:27:24.000 Um, sounds like voyeurism to me.

01:27:27.000 It's so incredible that they would just... It's awful!

01:27:30.000 It's awful.

01:27:31.000 What do you think about just the whole state of things right now, Melissa?

01:27:37.000 I'm pretty scary but I don't know the only thing that keeps me going is trusting God.

01:27:46.000 It's just so frightening watching everything take place around us and knowing that each of us is just one small person but you know together Um, together especially.

01:27:59.000 Melissa, of course I know Melissa.

01:28:01.000 Melissa's been calling in.

01:28:03.000 I've known Melissa for about, I don't know, eight, nine years.

01:28:06.000 Melissa, though, a lot of people, wouldn't you agree, have woken up?

01:28:10.000 Um, yes, and it's not, you know, it really helps when they start flashing it on the regular news, the things that I've been saying for, oh, you know, months, years.

01:28:19.000 Finally people are waking up.

01:28:21.000 Well, Melissa, you're a great lady, and you've done so much behind the scenes, and we really appreciate you.

01:28:26.000 Call me back sometime when you've got more time, because I've got a guest coming up, but I want to hear from you in the future.

01:28:31.000 I haven't heard from you in about a year or so, so take care.

01:28:35.000 All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, and we will talk to the mother and her valiant son, exposing the camera in the bathroom.

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01:32:00.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:32:04.000 I've talked a lot about it and up on InfoWars.com we have four or five of some of the most egregious examples of cameras not just in bathrooms but in the stalls videotaping everything and in the Tennessee case of course that happened what about three years ago actually had video cameras in the showers

01:32:26.000 And locally, they've been brainwashed to accept this, but a visiting group of middle school girls basketball team were in the field house after the game showering. 0.79

01:32:36.000 They saw the cameras, ran screaming as a normal person would.

01:32:39.000 Believe me, folks, if I was in a shower and I looked up and there was a camera, say at the gym or wherever, I would run out and go, what is that?

01:32:48.000 You know, at the local gym.

01:32:49.000 What is that?

01:32:50.000 Get that down! 1.00

01:32:51.000 I mean, I would freak out.

01:32:52.000 I would be angry.

01:32:53.000 I want to know what that's hooked up to and I want to know who's doing it!

01:32:56.000 Well, that's how parents respond, and the arrogant principle is all, this is for security.

01:33:01.000 Then he got in trouble because he'd been accessed on the internet, was hooked into an internet system as far away as North Carolina and California.

01:33:09.000 And all over the nation, restrooms in schools, colleges, and I saw one five years ago in the Associated Press out of Michigan, putting a man in the restrooms at the roadstops and parks.

01:33:24.000 This is Winston.

01:33:25.000 This is 1984.

01:33:28.000 And to have the... I think the best way to do this is... I know I'm just telling you to do this now, but do you have that clip in front of you there, Scott, from yesterday?

01:33:42.000 The clip that we played where John, can you get that clip from the local news?

01:33:47.000 I'm going to play that a little bit later, just so you can hear the arrogant response that they got from one of the local district attorneys saying, oh, well you don't really have rights when you're in a school.

01:33:59.000 That's baloney.

01:34:01.000 And the principal, hey, you know what, I'm going to keep doing this.

01:34:04.000 Kind of in everybody's face.

01:34:06.000 Because it's very, very important.

01:34:08.000 And up on InfoWars.com we have this article out of Jasper County.

01:34:12.000 Well, you're welcome.

01:34:13.000 I appreciate the audience.

01:34:14.000 room, Cindy Champion, and of course, Mac Bedor, her son.

01:34:19.000 And we really appreciate Cindy and Mac joining us.

01:34:23.000 And Mac, you've got a lot of courage getting the camera down.

01:34:26.000 Of course, photos have already been taken by other students and taken to the Sheriff.

01:34:29.000 We'll tell you about some of the comments they made.

01:34:31.000 But Cindy and Mac, thank you for coming on with us.

01:34:33.000 Well, you're welcome.

01:34:34.000 I appreciate the audience.

01:34:35.000 I think this is an issue that needs to be brought to the forefront before we lose every privacy that we have.

01:34:44.000 Now, out of the gates, Cindy and Mac, you guys have built a website.

01:34:49.000 You just threw it up.

01:34:50.000 It's under construction.

01:34:52.000 But if people want to go visit your mission statement now, you're going on the offensive.

01:34:58.000 Tell us about your new organization and tell us about your website.

01:35:02.000 Well, what we want to do is, I guess, let me just start by saying the group is called Pacer.org.

01:35:11.000 And that stands for Parents Against Cameras in Restrooms. 0.99

01:35:16.000 It's something that has really surprised me through this whole process that this is an issue that apparently, legally, there's an opinion that this is a viable thing to do with our children.

01:35:31.000 I want to bring the understanding of the law, number one, to clarity.

01:35:39.000 I think we've got to be clear as to what is considered legal in this country.

01:35:45.000 And if it is legal, we need to make it illegal.

01:35:47.000 Exactly.

01:35:48.000 So that's step two.

01:35:49.000 Let's first try to clarify what is legal.

01:35:53.000 Well, you've got to understand something, Cindy Champion.

01:35:56.000 You are a champion for liberty, pun intended.

01:35:59.000 But looking at this, I have studied the law.

01:36:02.000 I have studied the cases.

01:36:05.000 About, you know, 50 lawyers on over the years on this very subject of surveillance in bathrooms.

01:36:10.000 Let me just tell you something.

01:36:12.000 Tyranny, tyrants, despots will always claim it's legal and lawful.

01:36:16.000 I mean, of course the District Attorney... I mean, they're trying to claim arresting American citizens and torturing them with no due process is okay.

01:36:24.000 I mean, the current Attorney General, when he was White House Counsel, said that Bush was above the law and actually could become dictator if he wanted to.

01:36:33.000 So, just because they're always going to claim... I mean, the Supreme Court claimed black people weren't human beings.

01:36:39.000 Of course they are.

01:36:40.000 So just because they claim this doesn't mean it's a total violation of the Fourth Amendment, total violation of privacy.

01:36:46.000 It is Big Brother.

01:36:47.000 And you're right.

01:36:48.000 You can claim it's legal.

01:36:48.000 So what?

01:36:50.000 We're going to pass a law that you can't do this.

01:36:53.000 Well, that's exactly what I want to do.

01:36:55.000 There needs to be a movement across the country because it needs to be clarified on a national level.

01:37:02.000 Well you wear a Tennessee with the cameras in the showers?

01:37:05.000 I had just actually ran into that yesterday when I was doing a little bit more research.

01:37:11.000 This has caught me so by surprise that I've been just kind of chasing information.

01:37:18.000 Can you imagine if your son played football and he went in there and they were videotaping him?

01:37:23.000 Yeah, to me it's the same difference.

01:37:27.000 Or the little girls' room even.

01:37:29.000 There were not doors on these dolls, so I definitely have some issues.

01:37:34.000 But it's been kind of a roller coaster.

01:37:40.000 You have the assumption that the government doesn't want to force us to take microchips.

01:37:48.000 I can give you a federal document from the Defense Department saying that's the plan.

01:37:52.000 I can play Sean Hannity, Andy Rooney, former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, saying you need to be made to take it.

01:38:00.000 And I've had a police chief on from Bergen County, New Jersey, with a couple million people in his county, saying he'll make you take them.

01:38:07.000 No, I'm sure.

01:38:07.000 I'm absolutely sure.

01:38:09.000 And all in, I guess, for the sake of security.

01:38:11.000 But that shows how insane... See, we all make these assumptions that we're not living in an Outer Limits episode, but we are.

01:38:18.000 Now I'm going to shut up.

01:38:19.000 I want to hear specifically from you what happened and I want to bring your son, who I just absolutely admire, Mac Bedor, on with us.

01:38:30.000 He's on with us right now.

01:38:31.000 Mac, how are you doing, young man?

01:38:33.000 Good.

01:38:33.000 How about you?

01:38:34.000 Will you do me a favor and will you just, kind of in a synopsis, tell us when you first learned of the camera, what happened, what it was like when you got suspended?

01:38:45.000 Oh, whenever I got suspended, Excuse me.

01:38:56.000 He's a little bit nervous.

01:38:57.000 Don't be nervous.

01:38:58.000 It's no big deal.

01:39:00.000 Now, again, you're 13 years old.

01:39:01.000 You're in middle school.

01:39:02.000 When did you first learn of the camera?

01:39:04.000 I mean, describe that for us.

01:39:05.000 Well, me and my friends, we, well, first it started at lunch.

01:39:11.000 That's when we found out it was in there.

01:39:13.000 And then whenever we went back to class, our class went to the restroom.

01:39:18.000 And we went in there and we saw a camera in there.

01:39:20.000 And we went and got our teacher and we asked if that was a camera and he was like, I don't know, it kind of looks like one.

01:39:26.000 And we asked if anyone knew about it and he was like, well none of the teachers know about it as far as I'm concerned.

01:39:33.000 And we were just shocked and we hated it.

01:39:35.000 Excuse me again.

01:39:39.000 No, you're doing good.

01:39:40.000 So you hated it.

01:39:41.000 You didn't like living in Airstrip One in 1984.

01:39:44.000 What happened next?

01:39:47.000 Well, they released to the buses to go home and me and my friends we went in there and we took it down and I took it home to my mom and I knew she would do something about it.

01:40:00.000 Yeah, she's not a brainwashed Nazi like some of the people in this country are.

01:40:05.000 Now, one of your friends I'm told, someone you know, took a photo of the camera too?

01:40:10.000 Well, yeah, but I don't really know him that much.

01:40:14.000 Like, me and him are just acquaintances, but he did take a picture of the camera and showed it to the sheriff, and the sheriff said that the photo looks like it would be something like child pornography.

01:40:26.000 Now, who specifically told you that?

01:40:28.000 Cindy Champion? 1.00

01:40:29.000 Were you able to talk to this youth?

01:40:31.000 I haven't spoken to him.

01:40:33.000 We've looked or asked around to try to get a telephone number.

01:40:37.000 Um, but so far I haven't been able to locate it.

01:40:40.000 Specifically, Mac, this is what the student told you?

01:40:43.000 Yeah.

01:40:46.000 And he told a bunch of, um, he told me and my friends that he took it to the sheriff.

01:40:54.000 And the sheriff said that.

01:40:58.000 The sheriff or a sheriff's detective?

01:41:01.000 The sheriff.

01:41:02.000 Wow, we'll try to get a hold of the sheriff there.

01:41:04.000 Is that the Jasper County Sheriff?

01:41:06.000 Yes sir, it would be.

01:41:07.000 Okay, now continuing, you brought it home to your mother, who's on the line with us right now, and what developed next?

01:41:15.000 I mean, what did you think once your son comes walking in, hey mom, this camera's in the bathroom?

01:41:21.000 Well, I got the call, he literally, from the moment he got off the bus, he came straight into the house, picked up the phone, called me and said, you know, Mom, they were filming in the bathroom, in the boys' bathroom, and the camera, he actually initially told me the camera fell and I picked it up and I brought it home because, Mom, it just wasn't right.

01:41:45.000 And I'm going, Great!

01:41:46.000 Okay!

01:41:47.000 So, I told him we'd discuss it and I would go back up to the school tomorrow and see what was going on.

01:41:55.000 Initially, it was my impression that There's a possibility it wasn't actually placed there, and maybe one of the students, perhaps, had brought it or something.

01:42:07.000 And, you know, I wanted to consider that as a possibility.

01:42:11.000 We're a fairly small community, very rural.

01:42:15.000 Now, on the record, though, this is a small fisheye camera, too.

01:42:19.000 Yes, as a matter of fact, it's one that you can buy to do personal surveillance and whatnot.

01:42:28.000 I have done, and we can discuss this in a little while, I have done some research on that specific camera.

01:42:34.000 It's one of the old cheapo internet ones.

01:42:36.000 I've got quite a few of them because I do investigative stuff.

01:42:39.000 I have a TV show.

01:42:40.000 Well, yeah, it's got, apparently, and this is another concern, it has a 700 foot line of sight transmission where this camera was placed.

01:42:53.000 There are actually houses well within in a whole street area.

01:42:58.000 So it was broadcasting and computers by the way automatically pick up on that.

01:43:02.000 People have computers that scan for frequencies and it's a big business selling these and then big business fighting these.

01:43:09.000 A lot of people have been caught to doing stuff.

01:43:11.000 Foster parents beating up their kids and stuff because the neighbor is able to tune in on the monitor and see this.

01:43:17.000 So that's an interesting development.

01:43:18.000 It is.

01:43:20.000 In fact, it's one of those things when I knew I was going back to give the camera to the school and I wrote down all of the information and then when I had the opportunity to call the manufacturer, not necessarily the manufacturer but the person that sold this because it had all of their information.

01:43:41.000 I was able to talk with the salesperson.

01:43:45.000 He gave me some of the specifications.

01:43:47.000 Sure, you went and looked up the specs on the camera?

01:43:50.000 Exactly.

01:43:50.000 So it's a wireless camera that goes out 700 feet?

01:43:53.000 Right.

01:43:54.000 And again, that's line of sight, so it will vary depending on structure.

01:44:01.000 But this was a full color, and it did have full audio.

01:44:06.000 So this wasn't even, I'm looking to make sure everything's okay.

01:44:12.000 Now specifically, the news says that it was aimed into the stalls but didn't cover everything.

01:44:16.000 What does this really cover?

01:44:18.000 Because later you went and talked to the principal, right?

01:44:20.000 Of course, absolutely.

01:44:22.000 In fact, she anticipated I would be there because I'm just that kind of mom.

01:44:29.000 I called her the next afternoon.

01:44:31.000 I had early appointments and wasn't able to get there.

01:44:34.000 And she said, Yes, Ms.

01:44:37.000 Champion, you need to come and pick Mac up. 1.00

01:44:40.000 And so I could tell by what she was saying that they were getting ready to suspend him.

01:44:46.000 I got up there.

01:44:47.000 I knew I was going to be angry, so I told relatives, look, I'm going to be pretty hot, so, you know, be sure and be by the phone in case I need you.

01:45:00.000 Anyway, I went in and spoke with the principal of the middle school, Ms.

01:45:06.000 Massingale, and she sat me down and initially went straight to the infraction of suspension. 0.97

01:45:16.000 This is a strange thing.

01:45:18.000 You have a combination facility.

01:45:20.000 Correct.

01:45:20.000 Now, let's be clear.

01:45:21.000 It wasn't that school that put it in, right?

01:45:23.000 It was the high school principal that came and did it?

01:45:25.000 This is a strange thing.

01:45:26.000 You have a combination facility.

01:45:32.000 There is a shared gym and a shared lunchroom.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, I mean it's a complex.

01:45:38.000 Yeah, it's a complex.

01:45:40.000 And so, you know, you have most of the classes are localized.

01:45:45.000 You have most middle school on one side and most high school on the other.

01:45:48.000 However, this particular bathroom is a shared facility because it's just outside the lunchroom.

01:45:53.000 Okay, so the principal put it in there.

01:45:55.000 And so there's people, I guess, ages then 11 to 18.

01:45:59.000 Yeah, 11 to 18.

01:45:59.000 Males.

01:46:03.000 Now, when I sat down with the principal of the middle school, again, Ms.

01:46:08.000 Massingale, and she informed me that Mac was going to be suspended for five days for theft by taking because he took school property off campus.

01:46:21.000 So, at this point, he's still under suspension, which he was perfectly willing to accept that because It was worth it to him.

01:46:33.000 That's just been his attitude.

01:46:34.000 It was worth it for me.

01:46:35.000 Mom, you needed to see this camera.

01:46:37.000 That's in the spirit of 1776.

01:46:39.000 There'd be something wrong with him if he didn't do that.

01:46:41.000 And the fact that your son is the rare person that does have courage and honor and his head screwed on straight shows how much trouble this country's in.

01:46:48.000 Oh yeah, at 13, that they know better.

01:46:50.000 You know, by the time we're 30, what are we doing?

01:46:54.000 But anyway, she She proceeded to make sure I was clear that he wasn't allowed on campus, etc.

01:47:03.000 After she finished with what she was doing, I asked her, okay, what about the camera?

01:47:11.000 She proceeded to tell me that she had no comment.

01:47:14.000 I have no comment.

01:47:15.000 I'm not able to discuss this, and so on and so forth.

01:47:19.000 Basically, she had been prepared that this is how They're going to force some guilt on your son.

01:47:26.000 They're going to turn it around on record and try to charge him with being a crook.

01:47:30.000 And then they don't want to discuss how they got a camera in the bathroom.

01:47:33.000 That's exactly what happened.

01:47:35.000 So through some further conversation, because at this point I'm going, what do you want me to do?

01:47:42.000 This is my son.

01:47:44.000 He's 13 years old.

01:47:45.000 You guys are filming in the bathroom.

01:47:49.000 And I was that indignant.

01:47:51.000 And so, you know, at this point I'm tearing up.

01:47:53.000 I'm upset because I'm not really wanting to have to fight the system.

01:47:56.000 But here you go.

01:47:58.000 She's beginning to tear up.

01:48:00.000 She admitted to me she was not aware that the camera had been placed there.

01:48:05.000 And subsequently, through the conversation, which she still was having to be very guarded about because she has a job, she indicated that basically the teachers were not aware.

01:48:20.000 I asked where the camera had been placed, if they were placed in all of the bathrooms.

01:48:27.000 No, they were just placed in the one bathroom because this particular bathroom they've been experiencing a lot of vandalism.

01:48:37.000 Uh, it wasn't even a safety issue.

01:48:39.000 It wasn't a security issue, you know, as far as health. 0.94

01:48:43.000 Well, look, that's a ridiculous excuse. 0.98

01:48:44.000 Yeah, it was a ridiculous excuse. 0.96

01:48:45.000 And the point is, is when there's a problem, you start having hall monitors go check the bathroom.

01:48:49.000 Thank you.

01:48:50.000 Well, that's exactly what I told her is, is, uh, yeah, it sounds like an age-old question, an age-old problem.

01:48:58.000 We've always had vandalism in the bathroom.

01:49:00.000 When I, when I was in high school, There was always problems in the bathroom and we never had cameras in the bathroom.

01:49:11.000 I asked them to see where the camera was placed.

01:49:14.000 She called the high school principal.

01:49:17.000 I'll tell you what, I don't know how much time you have with us.

01:49:19.000 You can stay until the next hour if you can, but we've only got a little five-minute segment coming up.

01:49:23.000 If it's possible, I'll have to keep you 15-20 minutes in the next hour because I want to talk to Mac.

01:49:28.000 I want to talk more to you, Mrs. Champion, because this is so important and I want to get into what you saw in that video, where you're going from here.

01:49:37.000 I hope you sue these people's You know, into oblivion, because this is such a dangerous precedent.

01:49:45.000 We'll be right back with our guest, both of them, standing up for all our freedoms.

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01:54:13.000 Talking to our valiant guest, Cindy Champion and Mac Bedore, her son, during the break.

01:54:20.000 Mrs. Champion was telling me about how they have the ID cards in surrounding counties and the social security numbers on it.

01:54:28.000 They're turning the schools into prisons, but continuing.

01:54:31.000 And we're going to hold them over about 15 minutes to the next hour, folks, because this is so important.

01:54:36.000 We've only got a few minutes left, though, in this hour.

01:54:38.000 Kind of give us the condensed version, and then I want to come back and talk to some of your son.

01:54:42.000 Specifically now, you talk to her, she seems upset. 0.86

01:54:45.000 How did you get to the point to be able to, quote, watch some of the video?

01:54:49.000 She called the high school principal who had placed the camera and said, we have a parent here that wants to view the video.

01:54:58.000 What they did is he did come to the middle school office with film in hand or VHS cassette in hand.

01:55:06.000 He popped it in the machine and he showed me the last two minutes only of the tape.

01:55:12.000 So I cannot attest of what actually was on there past that.

01:55:16.000 But the two minutes he showed me was where there were three boys involved in taking the The camera down and disabling it.

01:55:25.000 Absolute heroes.

01:55:27.000 They basically showed that coming down and then Mac grabbed the camera and they caught the bus and left the facility.

01:55:40.000 After being shown that, and let me also clarify this is what I saw as far as where the camera was set.

01:55:48.000 The camera was up in the ceiling in a corner of the room.

01:55:53.000 It was not, you could see, there were not store doors, I'm sorry, stall doors, so you could only, you could see in the stalls a little bit, about a quarter or so of the stall could be seen in too.

01:56:10.000 That you could not see urinals or toilets.

01:56:13.000 Well, in the Tennessee case, it was the whole kit-kat and kaboogle right into the showers. 0.75

01:56:18.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:56:19.000 This shouldn't be anywhere in the bathroom.

01:56:21.000 Oh, I agree.

01:56:21.000 Next, it's going to be in the toilet.

01:56:23.000 Well, I absolutely agree.

01:56:26.000 This is what I saw.

01:56:28.000 My response was that there are other options.

01:56:31.000 We need to look at other options.

01:56:33.000 If there's an issue, then You know, I did the same suggestion you did.

01:56:37.000 What about a hall monitor?

01:56:39.000 Technically, the hall monitor could be outside the bathroom and hear anything that's going on.

01:56:45.000 Well, I mean, back in the day when that happened there, if a problem cropped up, they would just start having the coaches or the principals would just come spot check it and they'd always catch people.

01:56:53.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:56:55.000 The other thing that concerned me, quite frankly, is that it seems, I had a reporter from the local Monticello News called me last night and she wanted to find out, because she had the patent statement that the press release that the Joshborough County School Board had distributed, which said basically nothing.

01:57:21.000 So she was wanting to call and get the full story.

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01:58:21.000 Camera in school bathroom.

01:58:22.000 We started talking about this a few days ago.

01:58:23.000 There's been so many cases of this, but this time the young man, Mac Bedor, took the camera down with two of his friends, took it home, and when he took it back to school and they tried to say, hey, we don't like being videotaped, they said, hey, you're suspended for a week.

01:58:37.000 And it's just total big brother, and that the principals think this is normal is just outrageous.

01:58:43.000 We're talking to his mother, Cindy Champion, and we're going to bring Mac in here more in just a few minutes.

01:58:52.000 Cindy, continuing, you got a call from the press trying to learn more of what the principals are actually doing, what they're up to, because there's stonewalling of the press right now.

01:59:00.000 I mean, everybody's refusing to comment, but you were in there day one after this happened.

01:59:05.000 You had more info.

01:59:07.000 Tie that together for us, why the press was calling you.

01:59:11.000 She had dealt with me on issues previously and had understood that if I saw something that was not Correct, or as it should be.

01:59:21.000 I was the one to stand up and say, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is not correct.

01:59:27.000 Also, you do news archiving, so this is your business?

01:59:30.000 Yeah, I own and operate a company called Track News, and we right now are archiving close to 40 stations around the southeast.

01:59:39.000 It's called teleclips here in Austin, every major area.

01:59:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:59:44.000 So you're a total newshound. 1.00

01:59:46.000 This is what you do.

01:59:47.000 Which is what has, I guess, prompted me to feel the way that I do, to be a little more cautious.

01:59:52.000 I've been doing what I do for 20 years and I've seen a lot more things than I wish I'd ever seen.

01:59:57.000 Yeah, you're informed, okay.

01:59:58.000 Correct.

01:59:59.000 So she called you for more info.

02:00:01.000 Exactly.

02:00:01.000 So I had told her one of my primary concerns was that This does not even seem to be a policy.

02:00:10.000 That it seemed as if the principal had decided arbitrarily on his own to go ahead and film, which raises issues unto itself.

02:00:21.000 She indicated to me she had been, that she concurred, she had been at the last three Jasper County board meetings and that never was anything brought up having to do with any kind of security or vandalism or cameras.

02:00:37.000 There was never a time for a closed door session either.

02:00:41.000 When does your son get to go back to school?

02:00:43.000 Next Wednesday.

02:00:44.000 And how are his peers?

02:00:47.000 Is he a hero to them?

02:00:48.000 Are they happy?

02:00:50.000 I'll let him answer that question.

02:00:52.000 How about that?

02:00:53.000 Mack, are your friends patting you on the back?

02:00:55.000 Yeah.

02:00:56.000 They're talking about that everyone at school is talking about it and everything.

02:01:00.000 Well, you've got to be careful now.

02:01:01.000 They're going to probably be after you a little bit.

02:01:04.000 But I'm sure you're a good boy to begin with, the record show, so you don't have to worry too bad.

02:01:08.000 But, you know, I've got a plan for you.

02:01:10.000 You want to create a student organization and go to school with a couple hundred little handouts and give them out in the halls and stuff.

02:01:16.000 It's your First Amendment right.

02:01:17.000 And then you guys can meet one day a week or one day a month at school in one of the rooms.

02:01:22.000 They can't bar you from that.

02:01:23.000 And you can have the human rights.

02:01:26.000 Yep.

02:01:26.000 Yes, sir.

02:01:26.000 Well, yeah, and it wasn't just me that was doing it.

02:01:29.000 meeting and you guys can organize and stand up for student rights.

02:01:32.000 I think it's time to organize.

02:01:34.000 Yep.

02:01:35.000 Yes, sir.

02:01:36.000 What are your friends saying to you?

02:01:38.000 They appreciate you standing up for them?

02:01:40.000 Well, yeah, and it wasn't just me that was doing it.

02:01:44.000 It was me and my friend Jesse and Keaton.

02:01:47.000 Well, Jesse and Keaton have done a great job as well.

02:01:51.000 But have you ever talked to the principal?

02:01:55.000 What do they say to you?

02:01:56.000 I don't know.

02:01:59.000 They just said that Miss Massengill, at first she said that she was disappointed with me and then she said that she was proud of me and everything and my mom's proud of me and that's good.

02:02:12.000 Oh, so she was having a little bit of a conscience pain doing something mean to a patriot.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, after a little bit.

02:02:19.000 It took a few minutes for her to soften and get past the no comment stage. 0.53

02:02:25.000 But then, you know, once everything was said and done, she looked at me and hoped that I did the right thing.

02:02:32.000 Abigail, that's great for the middle school principal. 0.75

02:02:35.000 We've got to check in to this other fella. 0.99

02:02:38.000 We'll be right back with our two guests after this quick three minute break and we'll continue.

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02:05:51.000 Welcome back!

02:05:57.000 Imagine, your child goes to school, they come home, Mommy, Daddy, there's a video camera watching me in the bathroom.

02:06:07.000 And folks, there are cases where, again, they're in the showers.

02:06:10.000 I mean, mainstream news articles.

02:06:12.000 And the principal gets up and goes, well, we, bad things could happen in the showers.

02:06:17.000 Don't get upset.

02:06:18.000 What's wrong with you people?

02:06:20.000 Don't you like living in?

02:06:21.000 I mean, this is, folks, Imagine George Orwell writes the most horrifying futuristic novel of total enslavement in 1948.

02:06:30.000 Just absolute maximum tyranny, the ultimate evil.

02:06:35.000 And it's typified in the novel by cameras in the bathrooms.

02:06:40.000 I mean, he spends page after page on cameras in the bathrooms.

02:06:44.000 And now, our adults are so brainwashed that, we're gonna put cameras in the showers, that's freedom.

02:06:50.000 Gotta keep you safe.

02:06:51.000 Anything to keep you safe.

02:06:53.000 What about keeping us safe from the government?

02:06:55.000 Which throughout history is more dangerous than any other force out there.

02:06:58.000 I'm talking to the mother of Mac Vidor, Cindy Champion, and we've got news clips and audio up on the website.

02:07:06.000 I want to play a little clip from this newscast, but because we're short on time I'll just do it later after our guests have left us.

02:07:19.000 Cindy, where is this going from here?

02:07:20.000 I mean, obviously, in the community, people are upset.

02:07:23.000 What are you hearing from other parents when they learn that a camera was in the school?

02:07:27.000 Because the principal's saying he's going to continue.

02:07:30.000 This is like a stonewalling, I guess. 1.00

02:07:31.000 I ain't done nothing wrong.

02:07:33.000 I'm going to continue.

02:07:34.000 Actuality, that's what he said during the meeting.

02:07:37.000 And I reminded him of what I do for a living, that I work with media all the time, and just kind of pause and let him understand that I was not going to drop the issue.

02:07:48.000 He responded that the camera would be going back up, however he was going to put it in another place where the children were not going to be able to get to it because obviously where he had it before wasn't a good place.

02:08:03.000 And I said, you're absolutely sure about that?

02:08:06.000 And he concurred.

02:08:07.000 At that point I went back to the middle school principal and apologized to her because I know that this was not actually her decision.

02:08:18.000 Well, you know, you can shut him down with the point that this thing broadcasts 700 feet and it's wireless.

02:08:23.000 Kids on the school with laptops, anybody can tap into that.

02:08:26.000 That right there will shut him down.

02:08:28.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:08:29.000 Well, immediately, once I... I want to point out, the police have to get a warrant to do this to you folks, and then they can't put a camera in your bathroom.

02:08:38.000 Well, and apparently, as per what the DA's are saying in this area, That if you're a child you don't have a right.

02:08:46.000 Yeah, they're circling the wagons.

02:08:48.000 Children actually have more rights than adults. 0.99

02:08:51.000 This is ridiculous.

02:08:53.000 And schools like to claim that they're the guardian when your child's there. 0.94

02:08:56.000 That's not true, folks.

02:08:57.000 And you still have rights.

02:08:59.000 You still have all the rights.

02:09:00.000 You're not a prisoner.

02:09:01.000 Again, thumb scan to get into schools, ID cards, fences around them, shakedowns.

02:09:06.000 They're prisons.

02:09:08.000 Oh, I agree.

02:09:10.000 The Jasper County Board, the statement that they issued was that they did concur that Mr. Fore had actually put the camera there That's just circling the wagons.

02:09:24.000 Their statement did admit that Mr. Ford had told me he was going to put the camera back up.

02:09:33.000 However, the school board has decided to remove the camera.

02:09:37.000 So, for the second, the issue in the local area has died down, except that they're of the belief That they have the right to do this.

02:09:49.000 So that puts me in a position No, I don't doubt it.

02:09:53.000 I don't doubt it at all.

02:09:54.000 Look, this guy doesn't like being proven wrong.

02:09:56.000 He's going to go get a federal grant to do it.

02:09:58.000 I read an article two days ago on air where the feds all over the country are putting face scanners in, RFID, tracker badges.

02:10:04.000 In fact, Georgia is one of the big states doing it, Texas, Illinois, other areas.

02:10:08.000 You guys need to found an organization right now because I guarantee you that they're going to be back.

02:10:15.000 No, I don't doubt it.

02:10:16.000 I don't doubt it at all.

02:10:18.000 Well, you know, where we stand is I have gotten mixed reviews from parents, from...

02:10:27.000 I'm really proud of what you're doing.

02:10:29.000 I'd pull my kids out immediately.

02:10:31.000 What can I do to help?

02:10:34.000 Mac needs to be punished. 0.92

02:10:37.000 You don't understand. 0.80

02:10:38.000 Those bathrooms need to be monitored. 0.99

02:10:40.000 So I've got a wide spectrum.

02:10:42.000 What percentage is saying we love Big Brother?

02:10:47.000 Probably about 25%.

02:10:48.000 I was just about to say, you know what?

02:10:50.000 They need to go colonize Russia. 0.96

02:10:53.000 Colonize Soviet China. 0.82

02:10:55.000 Oh, by the way, they had big riots three months ago all over China as farmers and young people went in with baseball bats and climbed poles in front of the police and bashed cameras up in parks.

02:11:06.000 Good for them.

02:11:07.000 Yeah, so in Communist China, folks, where they sell baby parts, the people won't put up with cameras in public places.

02:11:14.000 But in the home of the free, land of the brave, more like home of the surveilled, land of the slaves, they got cameras up in the bathrooms.

02:11:22.000 Exactly.

02:11:23.000 Exactly.

02:11:28.000 Well, and to be honest with you, so should we.

02:11:31.000 The concern that I have in looking at my children being in the public school system is that they're taught from a very early on age that all of this is acceptable.

02:11:44.000 You just hit the nail on the head.

02:11:45.000 This is all conditioning, not just training them how to be prisoners.

02:11:49.000 That's exactly right.

02:11:50.000 I have children that come in because I'm saying, well, I'm upset by them doing that.

02:11:56.000 You know, whatever happens to be.

02:11:58.000 And, oh well, mom, you know, they need to do this because of safety issues.

02:12:03.000 Are you aware of the new Freedom Initiative?

02:12:06.000 Not all of it.

02:12:06.000 If I put it into Google, it's going to be forced psychological testing and drugging, and the drug company documents were released a year before it passed last year, passed earlier this year, and the executives are bragging, we've got 10% of kids on drugs now, we'll force 50% on it.

02:12:22.000 Absolutely.

02:12:23.000 I mean, these are mind control camps if it gets to that point.

02:12:26.000 Well, and that's what concerns me, is one, at the time, we've seen our liberties That's absolutely correct.

02:12:34.000 So something's got to give.

02:12:35.000 I understand that.

02:12:36.000 to have fingerprints to have driver's license.

02:12:38.000 That's a federal deal.

02:12:40.000 They've been doing that in Texas since 1993.

02:12:42.000 Biometrics, yes.

02:12:43.000 And now it's going in the grocery stores, the banks, the tanning salons, the gyms, and then they pull out all the service checkout lanes and make you use them.

02:12:51.000 That's absolutely correct.

02:12:53.000 So something's got to give.

02:12:55.000 I understand that.

02:12:56.000 I'm figuring you look for a cause, I suppose, and this one's been handed to me on my doorstep.

02:13:04.000 So that's what we're going to do.

02:13:06.000 I want to see nationwide parents stand up and say, not my kids.

02:13:12.000 You're not going to film my kids.

02:13:13.000 I haven't seen my son for eight years in the bathroom, okay?

02:13:17.000 And I've got some principal Uh, who, unbeknownst to everybody else, is, you know, seeing my son in the bathroom.

02:13:23.000 Well, plus, we all want privacy in the bathroom, and since when in America?

02:13:26.000 I mean, nobody else does this.

02:13:28.000 We are... Russia doesn't do this. 1.00

02:13:30.000 I mean, we're pathetic. 0.99

02:13:32.000 And by the way, hundreds of school districts have cameras in the bathrooms. 0.98

02:13:35.000 You're kidding.

02:13:36.000 No, I see them all the time.

02:13:38.000 Hundreds.

02:13:39.000 Hundreds.

02:13:40.000 That we know of.

02:13:41.000 I guess that's what I want to do because I'm in the state of Georgia and I haven't heard that there are cameras in the bathroom.

02:13:47.000 That's why I was so completely shocked.

02:13:50.000 Oh listen, there was a Sacramento Bee article last year where the entire city is wired into the police department.

02:13:56.000 It's on the internet, you know, secure servers, but it's Did you see the part about Tennessee with the girls in the showers?

02:14:02.000 It was being shared on the internet?

02:14:04.000 Well, I had read that and the charges that had occurred.

02:14:07.000 I think there were charges on that particular case.

02:14:10.000 What I'm looking to do... Oh, I missed that.

02:14:12.000 You mean the one with the principal that there were charges?

02:14:14.000 I think there were.

02:14:14.000 Uh-huh.

02:14:15.000 One of the websites... I was actually Googling cameras and restrooms or bathrooms.

02:14:23.000 Yeah, well, I know there have been people getting fired over it.

02:14:26.000 Well, and that could be.

02:14:27.000 Give us your website one more time, then I want to say a few final things to Mac.

02:14:33.000 Okay, it's pacer.org, P-A-C-I-R, and RR, Parents Against Cameras in Restrooms, if you can't remember the name.

02:14:42.000 Well, that is a great domain name, pacer.org.

02:14:45.000 You got that?

02:14:45.000 Nobody had that?

02:14:46.000 I got that.

02:14:47.000 Well, I'm afraid to link to you.

02:14:48.000 If you don't have a big server, it's going to get hammered.

02:14:51.000 Well, you link away.

02:14:52.000 I've been told Of course, in my business, I know a lot of publicists, so I have a publicist that is doing some help for us pro bono.

02:15:03.000 Well, they messed with the wrong mama. 1.00

02:15:04.000 They're not going to let her son be a slave.

02:15:06.000 In closing here, Mac, I want to get you guys back on in the near future.

02:15:10.000 I wish a lady like you would run a local school in this area. 1.00

02:15:12.000 I'd send my kids there.

02:15:13.000 We need to get back to freedom.

02:15:15.000 I'm working on a charter school.

02:15:17.000 That's part of what I'm doing.

02:15:19.000 See?

02:15:19.000 You've got to love it.

02:15:21.000 Freedom lovers think alike.

02:15:22.000 Mac, I tell you, your mom and folks really brought you up right.

02:15:26.000 Are you happy that you stood up for freedom?

02:15:28.000 Are you happy you did what you did against these slave masters?

02:15:31.000 Yes.

02:15:32.000 I'm real happy.

02:15:33.000 Anything you want to say to the audience out there listening?

02:15:37.000 If people are violating your rights in the bathroom or privacy, you should stand up because we're not just the only ones that are having to suffer for it.

02:15:48.000 Because if the camera was up, I wouldn't be the only one that was suffering for it.

02:15:53.000 Do you want to say anything to Big Brother out there? 0.99

02:15:55.000 Um, you guys are ridiculous. 1.00

02:15:59.000 Get over yourself. 1.00

02:16:03.000 I hate him. 0.63

02:16:04.000 I hate him, too.

02:16:05.000 Because I love freedom.

02:16:06.000 And I don't want my family growing up in a situation like this.

02:16:09.000 Alright, we will, Pacer.org, we will keep track of this as it develops and hopefully get you both back on in a few weeks.

02:16:16.000 Well, you probably won't be able to be back on, you'll be back in school, but hopefully get your mother back on in the near future.

02:16:22.000 And if you want to write any articles for us or send us anything, any press releases, TimpsonInfoWars.com, Mrs. Champion, and we'll get it up on the website.

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02:21:43.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:21:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:21:59.000 Alright, for the next Fifteen minutes or so, and we'll go right to your calls, I promise.

02:22:05.000 This segment, a little bit of the next segment, we'll go right to your calls, 1-800-259-9231, and cover some other news.

02:22:12.000 But for the next segment, and a little bit of the next, I've got just an amazing guest, and he is not a sponsor of this show.

02:22:18.000 He's not a sponsor of Alex Jones or InfoWars.com, though I want him to be.

02:22:22.000 I never go out and seek out sponsors, because I'm very reticent and very cynical about a lot of things.

02:22:29.000 But about a year and a half ago, just out of the blue, Marty Schachter, who'd been a sponsor of the Genesis Network, sent me a year's supply of soap.

02:22:38.000 And I just gave it to my wife and walked off, and she's like, this stuff's so soft, it smells so good.

02:22:43.000 Sometimes, you know, the kids will get rashes with the wrong soap detergent.

02:22:48.000 This stuff is organic, no animal stuff in it.

02:22:50.000 It doesn't have all the chemicals that cause allergies and irritants.

02:22:53.000 It just works like a charm.

02:22:55.000 They've got a huge line of products.

02:22:57.000 And I was listening to an ad a few weeks ago, and I thought, you know, it's Made in America.

02:23:01.000 It's a 50-plus year family-owned business, Calvin's Soap Company.

02:23:07.000 And I said, you know, I believe in this.

02:23:09.000 You know, t-shirts I sell are made in America.

02:23:12.000 The videos I sell are made in America, and printed in America, and produced in America.

02:23:16.000 I mean, almost everything we put out is made in America, folks.

02:23:20.000 Other places, you can't find stuff made in America.

02:23:23.000 I mean, even a lot of the detergents and stuff are being made overseas now, or in Mexico or wherever.

02:23:27.000 Not the Calvin Soap Company out in California, out in Oakland.

02:23:32.000 And so, we've got Marty with us.

02:23:34.000 And folks, seriously, this is just the best stuff, and it's a lot cheaper than the soap you buy at the store.

02:23:40.000 It doesn't have all the stuff that makes you sick in it.

02:23:43.000 I want you to call them and order soap right now, because I want to impress these folks.

02:23:48.000 I want to get them as a sponsor, because we have very few sponsors.

02:23:51.000 I will not take most sponsors, okay?

02:23:53.000 I turn down literally, in some cases, ten a week.

02:23:57.000 No, I turn down more than that.

02:23:59.000 But I'm going out and getting a sponsor.

02:24:04.000 Marty, it's great to have you on with us.

02:24:05.000 I thank you very much, Alex.

02:24:07.000 I've heard so much about you, and someday I'd like to hear your side.

02:24:13.000 Well, you know, I'll tell you what, Marty.

02:24:15.000 Tell folks about Calbin, why it's so good, why it's so inexpensive, how it's family owned, and what it doesn't have in it.

02:24:22.000 That's what's really important.

02:24:24.000 Well, my father and I started our pure soap company in 1947.

02:24:30.000 We dedicated ourselves to American products, to non-detergent products.

02:24:36.000 In 1950, the detergent market took over the supermarkets, the drug stores, the discount houses.

02:24:44.000 Detergents are made from petroleum.

02:24:47.000 Not only petroleum, but waste petroleum.

02:24:50.000 Soaps are made from vegetable oils and coconut oils, and they don't have any of the chemicals Uh, it doesn't take much to pick up a bar or a bottle of shampoo or a ball of cleaning soap and read the label of all the horrendous chemicals in there!

02:25:08.000 Well, absolutely.

02:25:09.000 That's because they're chemical companies that own Procter & Gamble and others, and this is the process.

02:25:15.000 This is what they've done.

02:25:16.000 When you read the back of a cowl bin, it's coconut oil, it's vegetable oil.

02:25:21.000 And listen, my wife is skeptical.

02:25:23.000 I didn't even tell her what it was.

02:25:24.000 I'm like, here's this stuff.

02:25:25.000 She's like, what is this?

02:25:26.000 It's wonderful after a few months.

02:25:28.000 And then she ran out of it.

02:25:29.000 She said, get me more.

02:25:30.000 I said, just call and buy it.

02:25:31.000 I'm busy.

02:25:32.000 And then years later, she's been buying it.

02:25:34.000 And anytime we run out and she uses other stuff, the kids get rashes, it stinks. 0.99

02:25:40.000 I mean, folks, you do not believe me.

02:25:43.000 You want to get this soap.

02:25:45.000 You want to stop using the other stuff.

02:25:47.000 Plus, you guys sell it so cheaply.

02:25:50.000 Well, we guarantee a savings of 85% off the supermarket prices.

02:25:58.000 This is a guarantee that I stand behind as owner and founder of the company.

02:26:03.000 The products are triple concentrated.

02:26:06.000 They're all wonderful to use.

02:26:08.000 It makes the skin alive, refreshed, flexible.

02:26:12.000 There's nothing like it in the marketplace.

02:26:15.000 And, you know, we have lots of competition out in the marketplace, but no competitors to what we have to offer.

02:26:22.000 There's thousands of products out there.

02:26:24.000 Well, I'm not kidding.

02:26:25.000 My wife, and, you know, women know this stuff. 1.00

02:26:27.000 She just absolutely loves it.

02:26:29.000 And we use it for bath soap, for all sorts of things.

02:26:33.000 It doesn't give you that dry, crackly... Back in the past, I'd wash my hair with normal shampoo, my scalp would get dry.

02:26:40.000 Calvin doesn't do that.

02:26:41.000 I mean, it's just good cleaning systems from Mother Nature.

02:26:47.000 This is what our goal was.

02:26:49.000 Our goal was to strive for perfection in cleaning products.

02:26:54.000 The family, what they go through right now, In the laundry room, you've got laundry detergents that are stronger than dirt, deteriorating clothing into lint.

02:27:06.000 You know what lint is, don't you?

02:27:08.000 That's why exactly with your subsystem, the lint tray doesn't fill up half as fast as it does with these detergents, which bleach them out and eat them.

02:27:18.000 And it's all a big program with the textile makers and the rest of it.

02:27:22.000 Marty, do a few more minutes with us.

02:27:23.000 I'm going to give out the phone number, and I want to tell people about your website.

02:27:26.000 And I want people to call and get a catalog.

02:27:28.000 I want them to call and get a year's supply, a month's supply.

02:27:31.000 I want your phones to blow off the wall.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march.

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02:27:46.000 Government is best what governs least.

02:27:49.000 Wake up and smell the fascism.

02:27:50.000 Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.

02:27:53.000 What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?

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02:30:46.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

02:30:49.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

02:30:55.000 I was talking to Marty Schachter during the break, and I was like, why can't I get this in local stores?

02:30:59.000 It's totally organic.

02:31:00.000 It's great.

02:31:01.000 And he goes, well, obviously, Proctor, Colgate, and others totally have it locked up.

02:31:06.000 And they do.

02:31:06.000 You should demand your local store after you've tried this soap.

02:31:09.000 85% off because it's not a big corporation ripping you off.

02:31:15.000 It's made in America.

02:31:16.000 It's totally organic, folks.

02:31:19.000 If you want to read, read.

02:31:21.000 On the back of a cowl, bin, soap bottle, or dishwasher bottle, or any of it, it's just a few ingredients.

02:31:27.000 And it works so well.

02:31:29.000 Then you read on the back of the other stuff, it's like a toxic waste dump.

02:31:33.000 And then just type in the side effects of one of those chemicals.

02:31:36.000 It's unbelievable.

02:31:38.000 Look, I believe in this, and I believe in sharing good things with you, and for so long I've meant to, you know, promote this because my wife likes it and I like it, and so now we're doing it.

02:31:46.000 And Marty's not even a sponsor.

02:31:47.000 I hope to get him as a sponsor, but, you know, we're just having him on because I believe in it.

02:31:53.000 Marty, give them the toll-free number to get a free catalog, or tell us about some of the different little specials you've got on Do you have anything like a tester box or something that kind of has different samples of different products or something that people can buy?

02:32:08.000 It's a one month tote bag.

02:32:10.000 It'll last the family of four, approximately four to eight weeks.

02:32:14.000 It's packaged in a box.

02:32:16.000 It's what we call our Whitman Sampler.

02:32:18.000 It's got 4 bars of our pure soap.

02:32:20.000 Nothing like it in the country.

02:32:22.000 It's got 16 ounces of our triple concentrated cocoa butter shampoo.

02:32:28.000 16 ounces of our liquid cream dish gloves soap.

02:32:31.000 These are all in dispenser bottles.

02:32:34.000 18 ounces of a concentrated laundry soap.

02:32:37.000 Not a detergent, but a real soap.

02:32:39.000 A book of instructions with all the jobs you can do with it.

02:32:43.000 We've got a nylon scarring pad.

02:32:46.000 A commercial size.

02:32:47.000 This is 8 inches by 9 inches.

02:32:50.000 It replaces Ajax, Comet, Steel Wool, SOS pads, Chore Girls, Curvy Gates. 1.00

02:32:55.000 Don't need them anymore.

02:32:57.000 You don't need to get them in your fingers and burn and chemicals.

02:33:00.000 This is all packaged together.

02:33:02.000 It's a one-month tote bag.

02:33:04.000 It costs $14.

02:33:05.000 No tax.

02:33:07.000 It's... That's crazy!

02:33:08.000 Whenever I buy shampoo before I was getting Calvin, it's like $8 a bottle of the cheap stuff for one bottle of shampoo.

02:33:16.000 But we put it all together and it'll give you... Instead of me describing the products, the products will speak for themselves.

02:33:23.000 Okay, so folks need to get that $14. 0.98

02:33:25.000 Also, how do they call people who just want to get a free catalog?

02:33:28.000 Just 800-340-7091.

02:33:34.000 As soon as we get your call, we'll air mail it to your door.

02:33:37.000 It's a 3-4 ounce envelope.

02:33:39.000 You'll enjoy reading it.

02:33:40.000 We're also Or on the web, you can check our website, CalBenPureSoap.com.

02:33:47.000 All the descriptions, all the information, all the prices will save you money, will save the environment, will save your skin.

02:33:55.000 You'll have products that will take you out of coach and put you into first class.

02:33:59.000 And folks, this is not hype.

02:34:02.000 Again, we pay more for toxic stuff that screws us up, that we breathe, that our kids get sick from.

02:34:07.000 I mean, read what's on the back.

02:34:08.000 It's like everything else. 0.99

02:34:10.000 The New World Order kills you and then gives you garbage and you pay for it. 0.99

02:34:16.000 1947? 0.99

02:34:16.000 That's... that's 53... 58 years ago. 0.99

02:34:21.000 58 years ago.

02:34:22.000 Right.

02:34:22.000 I mean, this is insane, folks.

02:34:25.000 Now, you need to get this.

02:34:26.000 CalbinPureSoap.com or 1-800-340-7091.

02:34:28.000 or 1-800-340-7091.

02:34:32.000 Right.

02:34:32.000 Thank you.

02:34:33.000 And give Marty and his great folks a call out there.

02:34:40.000 Now, you've got the $14 sampler pack, you've got the free brochures, catalogs, and I've got one of your catalogs before my wife orders out of it.

02:34:49.000 What other packages?

02:34:50.000 I mean, do you have like six-month, year supplies?

02:34:52.000 We go from a one-month supply to a real terrific savings.

02:34:56.000 A one-year supply.

02:34:58.000 It'll last a family of four, anywhere from 12 to 24 months.

02:35:02.000 We're talking about $125 plus approximately $40 United Parcel.

02:35:09.000 It's a 65 pound box of triple concentrated soaps.

02:35:13.000 Bath soap, hair soap, dish soap, laundry soap.

02:35:16.000 If you've got an automatic dishwasher, that's included too.

02:35:19.000 So how much is that gigantic box?

02:35:21.000 That's what I got that time.

02:35:22.000 Total delivered, $165.

02:35:23.000 Comes out to $3.25 a week.

02:35:28.000 Now, I've heard you do the math before, and I've read this in financial publications, too, and it was accurate.

02:35:31.000 What I heard you say on air one time when you were on with Trudeau years ago, how much do we normally spend on soap?

02:35:38.000 I have statistical evidence, which I'll send you, that shows you for every dollar spent in the supermarket, 18 to 21 cents of that dollar goes for cleaning chemicals.

02:35:49.000 If you're spending a hundred bucks a week for your steaks and seafood and vegetables and cleaning supplies and canned goods, a hundred dollars a week, lowball figure, out of that hundred dollars, twenty dollars is going for cleaning chemicals, for Tide and oil.

02:36:06.000 And you'll reduce that down to what, five dollars?

02:36:08.000 Twenty dollars a week times fifty-two weeks is over a thousand dollars going down the drain with nothing to show for it.

02:36:17.000 Our cost factor to you is $3 a week.

02:36:21.000 That's an 85% savings.

02:36:23.000 But again, the globalists are shysters.

02:36:25.000 So see, they set up the system again.

02:36:26.000 It's always the same to do this.

02:36:28.000 Whereas we have made in America, high quality systems that just use plant matter, just use vegetable oils to truly clean the good old-fashioned way.

02:36:39.000 Folks, give him a call 800-340-7091.

02:36:40.000 God bless you and good to have you on, Marty.

02:36:45.000 Thank you very much.

02:36:46.000 Can I close with a poem?

02:36:48.000 Sure.

02:36:50.000 The little soul has no time for birth control. 1.00

02:36:54.000 That is why in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.

02:37:01.000 You're funny.

02:37:01.000 Take care.

02:37:02.000 Thank you.

02:37:03.000 You bet.

02:37:03.000 He's a real character, folks.

02:37:04.000 You can hear the phones ringing.

02:37:07.000 People all the time want me to sponsor this, sponsor that, sponsor this magic cure, sponsor this little pyramid, sponsor this product, that product.

02:37:16.000 A lot of them, I'm sure, are good.

02:37:18.000 I just don't do it.

02:37:19.000 This is a person who I could get to be a sponsor.

02:37:22.000 I called him up.

02:37:23.000 He was ready to be a sponsor right away.

02:37:24.000 He's heard about the show.

02:37:28.000 I just wanted to have him on, because I don't care.

02:37:30.000 I just want you to get this soap and enjoy it.

02:37:33.000 Alright, that's enough.

02:37:34.000 I'm going to take a bunch of your calls now.

02:37:35.000 I appreciate folks sitting through that, but it's important.

02:37:38.000 I mean, it's important.

02:37:39.000 You're getting ripped off.

02:37:40.000 I've seen the numbers.

02:37:42.000 It's insane.

02:37:44.000 We use only organic cleaners now in my house, and the price has gone way down, and much of what we use is Calbin.

02:37:51.000 I mean, it's just good stuff.

02:37:52.000 Alright, I said I'd shut up, but I'm not shutting up.

02:37:56.000 I said my wife's a big fan, so.

02:37:58.000 Let's go to Johnny in Nevada, then David, Steve, Jeff, and Frank.

02:38:02.000 Johnny has come marching home.

02:38:04.000 Welcome, Johnny.

02:38:05.000 Hey, Alex.

02:38:06.000 Hi.

02:38:07.000 I've been using all organic foods and drinking spring-fed bottled water, and I've been feeling a whole lot better myself.

02:38:15.000 And I would recommend to anyone that you really look into that and start eating right, because my energy levels have gone way up.

02:38:25.000 But what I wanted to talk about, Alex, was I was a forward observer in the 82nd Airborne Division out of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, for three years.

02:38:36.000 And you were talking about white phosphorus earlier.

02:38:39.000 We would do these simulated training missions where we would parachute out of a C-130 and then we'd march through the woods and we would simulate taking a city.

02:38:50.000 And I haven't been to Iraq, and I'm not sure what's going on over there as far as, you know, how they're capturing Fallujah or Ramada or places like that.

02:38:59.000 But we were trained that you don't call in white phosphorus, woolly pea, you don't call that in on a city.

02:39:07.000 In fact, we were trained that you don't call in artillery on a city, period.

02:39:12.000 All the training that we did was conventional type training where you would call in artillery rounds, but none of it was urban.

02:39:20.000 No, we'd do these exercises where, as a forward observer, we would be tasked out to our respective infantry platoon, and we would go in there, but basically all that we were, once the fighting hit the city, was, we were people, we were just a guy with a radio and a rifle, and that was it.

02:39:39.000 And we'd relay stuff for the infantry commanders and for the platoon leaders and things of that nature, but we never were taught or trained You call in artillery in a city, especially white phosphorus.

02:39:53.000 Well, they destroyed over one-third of Fallujah, and they were just on the news, we're going to level the city, and they wouldn't even let men over the age of 11 leave, so it was basically just an extermination operation. 0.83

02:40:06.000 Well, I'm just telling you, as a soldier, I don't doubt you, Alex, but what I'm saying is that as a soldier, we were taught that.

02:40:13.000 No, I understand.

02:40:13.000 You're saying that isn't even accepted tactics, and that's what they said when this happened at Fallujah.

02:40:18.000 This is not what we're supposed to do.

02:40:20.000 Well, it's against the law of land warfare.

02:40:23.000 We were taught that.

02:40:24.000 The law of land warfare.

02:40:26.000 Well, it's against the law of land warfare to torture people, but they're doing it.

02:40:29.000 Well, I mean, I really need to just look at the news and see all that.

02:40:34.000 I have a hard time seeing Soldiers calling in artillery on a city.

02:40:38.000 Because we were trained not to do that.

02:40:40.000 Of course, this was six years ago when I was in, but... Well, it's been admitted they were dropping it.

02:40:45.000 They were dropping it out of airplanes and artillery as well.

02:40:48.000 I mean, they pounded Fallujah.

02:40:50.000 Well, the thing about artillery, as far as field artillery, is it's an area weapon.

02:40:56.000 It's not a precision weapon, and you can't distinguish between Well, you know, we got these guys, and they're in this building, and we drop an artillery round.

02:41:06.000 No, it's target this entire grid sector and flatten it.

02:41:10.000 Right, right.

02:41:11.000 So that's why, you know, we don't call in artillery into urban warfare situations, because you knock down one building, yeah, you might get the guys that you're fighting, but you're also going to, you know, blow anybody else standing, you know, a couple blocks away on the street.

02:41:26.000 Yeah, and I thought we're there liberating them.

02:41:28.000 Alright, well, thank you for the call.

02:41:31.000 I'll tell you, that one caller in the first hour talking about white phosphorus, that really started the ball rolling.

02:41:38.000 David in Mass, you're on the air.

02:41:39.000 Welcome.

02:41:40.000 Alex, how are you today?

02:41:41.000 Good, sir.

02:41:43.000 Did you hear about the latest fake terror alert that happened about a couple of hours ago?

02:41:47.000 Have you been up on this?

02:41:47.000 Did somebody call in about this?

02:41:49.000 No, I guess I'm in my own little bubble here.

02:41:51.000 What's going on?

02:41:52.000 Alright, here it is, I mean, from Fox Fantasies.

02:41:55.000 I, uh, passed by and saw it and they got it first.

02:41:58.000 Several Connecticut courthouses evacuated because of unspecified threat.

02:42:02.000 Let me read a couple things.

02:42:04.000 Courthouses around the state of Connecticut were evacuated Friday because of an unspecified threat.

02:42:08.000 Authorities said the call was phoned in this morning to Governor M. Jody Rell's constituent office against the unspecified courthouse.

02:42:17.000 Courthouses in Waterbury, New Haven, New London, Danielson, Bridgeport, and Hartford Rockville were evacuated.

02:42:24.000 Oh, New London, so I guess now you can't protest them because they're under Al-Qaeda threat.

02:42:28.000 One phone call comes in and we all learn to grovel and be good little slaves, but the border stays wide open.

02:42:33.000 Wide open, right.

02:42:34.000 Well, Alex, here's the interesting thing, though, here.

02:42:37.000 This was supposedly Associated Press.

02:42:39.000 Now, I went to Newsday, which is, I thought, Associated's main page.

02:42:43.000 They haven't even got anything posted on it.

02:42:46.000 And then I went to CNN, posted it at 125.

02:42:50.000 And MSNBC didn't post anything on it.

02:42:53.000 So I think this is fake, Alex.

02:42:56.000 Another conditioning thing.

02:42:58.000 Well there is constant fear mongering.

02:43:00.000 I mean, look.

02:43:01.000 Again, I'll state this.

02:43:02.000 They say the police are aggressively going to quote the people under siege, surround buildings, banks, grocery stores, malls, and search everyone.

02:43:10.000 Now that's what the police chief and deputy chief said.

02:43:15.000 Because of unspecified threats that the Fed said.

02:43:19.000 Well, that's why, again, if you think terrorists are going to attack somewhere in the country, they randomly pick a farmhouse to go stake out with the Army. 0.96

02:43:26.000 I mean, it's just totally ridiculous. 0.89

02:43:28.000 It's only to train us to be slaves and show our papers. 0.81

02:43:32.000 Well, Alex, how about the other thing?

02:43:33.000 Where's been all the stories on bird flu?

02:43:36.000 That sort of just dropped off the radar, hasn't it?

02:43:38.000 I mean, that was supposed to wipe out all of it.

02:43:41.000 There hasn't been practically anything.

02:43:43.000 I think I noticed something on Prison Planet that you may have posted, like, another bit of it yesterday or something, but I haven't seen anything in the mainstream about bird flu in, like, the past two weeks.

02:43:53.000 Well, they reported that some quail had a low virulent strain of it in California, but it turns out it's just a strain akin to the latest mutation.

02:44:04.000 It's not even bird flu.

02:44:05.000 Again, nothing but lying fear-mongering.

02:44:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess since they had World AIDS Day yesterday, of course, they had to divert our attention to that.

02:44:14.000 Well, look, I mean, all over the country, courthouses, state and federal, have gotten packs of things that say anthrax on it.

02:44:22.000 And that was in the late 90s.

02:44:23.000 And then Congress did a study on how to male weaponize anthrax in the mail.

02:44:26.000 And then I've seen countless times where the local FBI did a drill and didn't tell the rest of their employees that it wasn't real anthrax to judge the response.

02:44:35.000 And, oh, there was a nuclear spill in Austin, and then in Kyle, and then they announced at midnight, okay, it was a drill.

02:44:42.000 Totally criminal!

02:44:43.000 The city was panicking.

02:44:45.000 This is before 9-11.

02:44:46.000 They do this because at the psychological level, it is associated as real.

02:44:51.000 There aren't real terrorists attacking us.

02:44:53.000 You're 300 and... what is it?

02:44:55.000 Where is it?

02:44:57.000 360 or 390?

02:44:57.000 I'll dig it out.

02:44:59.000 Times more likely to die in an automobile accident than you are from terrorism.

02:45:03.000 That's right, Alex.

02:45:03.000 It's just illusionary reality.

02:45:05.000 That's all I got for you.

02:45:07.000 Thank you.

02:45:07.000 I'm trying to find that since I mentioned it.

02:45:09.000 I covered it yesterday.

02:45:10.000 Alright, here it is.

02:45:12.000 Death toll from road accidents 390 times.

02:45:16.000 That from terrorism study.

02:45:17.000 You know, it's kind of interesting getting older.

02:45:20.000 I always had 2015 vision.

02:45:23.000 Better than 2020, folks.

02:45:24.000 Now I need to go get them tested.

02:45:26.000 I think I've actually, my eyesight is not as good as it used to be.

02:45:30.000 I was out shooting a few weeks ago and I was having trouble with open sights at 100 yards with the light level, getting my sight right in the right spot.

02:45:39.000 And it's the same thing with my memory.

02:45:41.000 They say after what, age 25, you start really losing brain mass every day.

02:45:45.000 A certain amount of cells die.

02:45:46.000 That's why you've got to keep learning new things and it re-energizes the brain.

02:45:50.000 But just a year ago, I would know that that said 390 times.

02:45:55.000 I would know that a year later.

02:45:57.000 I would know that two years later.

02:45:59.000 Almost a photographic memory, like 95%, 98% retention.

02:46:04.000 Not the case anymore.

02:46:05.000 Still really good, but I wasn't confident.

02:46:07.000 I've been making so many mistakes on numbers lately in articles, not so many, one or two a week that I've caught, that, and they're usually almost, see I said 360, now maybe 390.

02:46:17.000 I pulled it out, AFP, A French news agency, death toll from road accidents, 390 times that from terrorism, the study shows.

02:46:26.000 In a study of industrialized nations, over several decades, it is 390 times, folks.

02:46:33.000 And the newest part of the study was in 2001, and then it just goes through it.

02:46:39.000 Then the next 26 days on American roads, as many died as died on 9-11.

02:46:44.000 on 9-11.

02:46:45.000 In 26 days, 3,000 people.

02:46:48.000 But who wants to know about my minimal capacity and It doesn't really matter.

02:46:55.000 It's just interesting that besides not Superman anymore, the memory isn't Superman anymore.

02:47:01.000 I'm kind of glad!

02:47:04.000 Alright, let's go ahead and take a call.

02:47:13.000 Stephen Colorado, go ahead.

02:47:15.000 Yeah, hi there, Alex.

02:47:16.000 Hey, pardon me for kind of putting you on the spot with this one, I guess, a little bit.

02:47:20.000 Do you know of any video of the first aircraft that hit the World Trade Center?

02:47:25.000 Do you know of any video that's out there?

02:47:27.000 Yeah, there's a video of it.

02:47:29.000 Do you have any on your site at all?

02:47:31.000 Yeah, I have it actually in my films.

02:47:32.000 It was shot by the French News Crew.

02:47:33.000 Ah, okay.

02:47:35.000 Remember that?

02:47:36.000 No, actually, unfortunately I don't.

02:47:38.000 They were the ones covering the firefighters.

02:47:41.000 It's the one where they're out there and they're firefighters and they're actually getting the camera on testing and about to do an interview and all of a sudden they hear it and he pans up and catches it.

02:47:49.000 Okay, is it on your... Also, Mexican TV got it too.

02:47:53.000 Yeah, I've got it somewhere, right in front of me.

02:47:55.000 I don't have it, but... Okay, I guess it's probably on your 9-11 video then, eh?

02:48:01.000 Yes, it's the... I mean, I can't exactly describe it.

02:48:06.000 It's hard to describe on radio what you're seeing, but it's the one where you see a fire engine, some firefighters, and they're talking, and somebody goes, what the bleep?

02:48:15.000 And the camera pans up, and it goes... Oh, wow, okay.

02:48:19.000 And then second question, I'm sure you're probably aware of the meetings that went on in Waco of Bush, President Bush and Canadian Prime Minister Martin and Vincente Fox back in March?

02:48:32.000 Yes.

02:48:34.000 Do you know who sponsored them?

02:48:37.000 The White House.

02:48:39.000 Stay there, I'll talk about it.

02:48:39.000 It was like the border councils.

02:48:41.000 Stay with us.

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02:51:40.000 I want to jam three final callers in here.

02:51:50.000 Here at the end of the show on this Friday.

02:51:55.000 Look, it's not negative that we sit here and expose all this evil.

02:51:58.000 It's positive that we're exposing it and leaving it To fester only makes things worse, folks.

02:52:03.000 It's an infection.

02:52:05.000 But yeah, that thing was sponsored by Bush and the Republican Party, I remember.

02:52:10.000 And also that CFR Border Council that's recommending the merger.

02:52:15.000 But no, and they hammered out there the Trans-Napa Highway and all of this stuff.

02:52:20.000 But I tell you, Hugo Chavez is throwing a big fat monkey wrench into that.

02:52:25.000 Go ahead, Steve, and finish up.

02:52:27.000 Okay, well, so Bush knows exactly what he's doing when he's integrating us into Or the NAFTA integrating the North American continent into one political region, as opposed to... Well, when we say Bush, you've got to know he takes naps two hours a day, works out three hours a day.

02:52:43.000 He's a dilettante, but yes.

02:52:45.000 But yes, the apparatus that controls Bush, yes, of course.

02:52:48.000 Yeah, unfortunately, it's really the staff, the CFR staff, that's really pulling the strings.

02:52:53.000 I mean... Publicly, they write a report, give it to Canada and the U.S., and it's passed a month later.

02:52:57.000 I mean, they literally run this country.

02:52:59.000 Thanks for the call.

02:53:00.000 And they brag about it.

02:53:01.000 Of course, it's all the former bank chairmen, senators, and current ones, and it's the power elite.

02:53:07.000 There's over 2,000, 2,500 of them, and then there's elites within that elite.

02:53:12.000 Let's talk to Jeff in Denver.

02:53:14.000 Quickly, Jeff, go ahead.

02:53:15.000 Thanks for holding.

02:53:15.000 Yeah, I just wanted to briefly say about, well, first of all, everybody needs to listen very carefully because there's not enough radio talk show hosts to talk about this.

02:53:26.000 And actually, I think it's in one of your videos, Alex.

02:53:29.000 In 1978 or maybe it was 79, President Bush, and this is a very important topic, stated that the world's population must be eliminated by 65% because of the world's resources.

02:53:42.000 And of course, if you take the numbers, the mathematicians and the scientists, for the population today versus, say, 2020, in any event, there's not going to be enough.

02:53:55.000 So what they do is, They come out with all these viruses and diseases to try to control them.

02:54:00.000 Well, that's admitted.

02:54:01.000 They've been caught red-handed.

02:54:02.000 Thanks for the call.

02:54:03.000 Frank in West Virginia.

02:54:04.000 Go ahead, Frank.

02:54:06.000 Hi, Alex.

02:54:07.000 I remember years ago on, I believe it was a news program called 20-20, there was a video shown of one of the more draconian police states out in the Orient, one of the first world nations over there. 0.55

02:54:20.000 I forget which one.

02:54:22.000 Singapore.

02:54:24.000 Yes, that was in Singapore.

02:54:26.000 Yes.

02:54:26.000 Did you remember ever seeing that?

02:54:28.000 It showed this guy... No, I didn't know about it.

02:54:30.000 If you stick a bubble gum on the ground, you get a year in prison.

02:54:33.000 Yes, they showed a camera in the men's bathroom.

02:54:37.000 The guy walks up to the urinal and leaves, does not flush, doesn't wash his hands, goes out on the street.

02:54:42.000 Next thing you know, he's arrested.

02:54:45.000 They handcuffed this guy and arrested him.

02:54:47.000 No, no.

02:54:48.000 Singapore and China are the models. 0.98

02:54:50.000 And Singapore is, next to Finland, as bad as it gets. 0.57

02:54:53.000 World leaders in evil.

02:54:55.000 Hmm.

02:54:56.000 I just remember at the time, it made such an impression on me, I thought, good grief, I'd never live in that country.

02:55:01.000 I'd do everything I could to get out of that country.

02:55:03.000 Well, the New Order bought that country, and it's totally owned by the Globalists, and that's their model. 0.92

02:55:07.000 And everybody's moving there.

02:55:09.000 It is going to be one of the major New World Order capitals.

02:55:12.000 That island nation.

02:55:14.000 Well, I never thought we'd see it here, but now you can't hardly find a restaurant to go into.

02:55:18.000 It doesn't have a camera looking over your shoulder.

02:55:21.000 I don't know if they're looking for people to steal the silverware or what it is.

02:55:24.000 It's not over the cash registers or at the doorway, necessarily only, for somebody who might, you know, rob the place.

02:55:30.000 Yeah, I mean, a camera's just a tool.

02:55:32.000 I'm not against it either.

02:55:33.000 It's the big brother overuse of them.

02:55:35.000 We're out of time.

02:55:36.000 Thanks for bringing up Singapore.

02:55:38.000 Yeah, that's important.

02:55:39.000 Alright, folks, we are out of time today.

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