Alex Jones Show - 20060110_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:11.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 I have been bucking and engaging, chomping at the bit.

00:00:28.000 Been like a tempest in a little teapot.

00:00:32.000 Since last night, frankly every day, I'm just getting more and more angry.

00:00:38.000 But more than just angry, focused.

00:00:39.000 And I realize how serious things are.

00:00:43.000 And things are just disgusting me at levels that they haven't in years.

00:00:47.000 And frankly, that's healthy.

00:00:49.000 I mean, I've been getting conditioned.

00:00:51.000 To Big Brother, in condition to all the police state things that are happening, and getting more and more acclimated to it in the last few years.

00:00:59.000 And I really, lately on air, it's been like the old days.

00:01:04.000 Maybe it's good that I've been yelling and screaming and freaking out, because we need to yell and scream and freak out.

00:01:12.000 This is yelling and screaming and freaking out type stuff that we're dealing with.

00:01:20.000 Remember about two years ago there was a New York Times article saying how great it was going to be that the Pentagon had a plan for your local cities with grants.

00:01:29.000 Yes, the Pentagon with grants.

00:01:32.000 That every citizen will actually be made To watch a computer terminal several hours a week at first, and people who wish to be paid will watch it upwards of 20 hours a week.

00:01:47.000 And they will randomly watch CCTV cameras in different cities.

00:01:51.000 It said if you were in Chicago, you'd watch Dallas, Texas.

00:01:54.000 And if you were in Dallas, Texas, you'd be watching some town in Idaho.

00:01:58.000 Because we can't have our own citizens watching our own people.

00:02:01.000 That might open it up to harassment. 0.95

00:02:04.000 And that they were going to have simulated images of terrorists, so real, you couldn't tell the difference via the video feeds that people were watching, because they said there'll never really be any real terrorism, so we've got to simulate it to see if people are on their toes, and then they will instantly then activate it and notify the police department through a filing system.

00:02:28.000 Yes, it's science fiction, but we're in the 2000s now.

00:02:32.000 And just a few weeks ago, I had a Homeland Security professor on who's teaching 14 classes.

00:02:39.000 He's the dean over 14 classes of Homeland Security at one university in Knoxville, Tennessee.

00:02:45.000 And they're recruiting hundreds and hundreds of people to go online and post little tattletale reports on all crime, terrorism, and of course, threats.

00:02:55.000 So, again, there's no real terrorism, but the classical sense, but everything is terrorism. 0.68

00:03:01.000 Well, guess what?

00:03:02.000 It's going to be on British Cable TV.

00:03:04.000 You have your own channels, hundreds of them, of surveillance cameras.

00:03:09.000 You can flip around on them real time and watch any camera you want and tattle on people.

00:03:15.000 It's so much fun and even get goodies for doing it.

00:03:19.000 And yes, of course, your community service will be having to watch the cable and tattle on people here in America.

00:03:29.000 And in England, of course.

00:03:32.000 So, again, just the ultra-depths of Big Brother.

00:03:35.000 Ultra-depths.

00:03:37.000 And I've literally, no exaggeration, got about 35 articles today that are, frankly, even worse than this.

00:03:44.000 I have an audio clip I'm not sure I even want to play. 0.95

00:03:46.000 It's a high-level Bush administration official saying that they can torture small children and crush their genitalia. 0.89

00:03:52.000 I can't really say more than that on air. 0.95

00:03:54.000 And this was given in a major symposium at a major university.

00:03:59.000 And it's up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

00:04:03.000 You know, I said I wasn't joking when I said they'd probably be barbecuing small children on the White House lawn or maybe cutting the tops of their heads off and eating their brains with a dull spoon and calling it love of the Lord.

00:04:13.000 You know, I joke about those things, but anything I joke about ends up happening.

00:04:17.000 Paul Watson, three weeks ago, wrote an article where these people were defending torture and he said, you know, what's next?

00:04:24.000 Burning children with Bunsen burners?

00:04:27.000 No, no, it's worse than that, Paul, and we now have the clip. 0.99

00:04:31.000 The Bush administration, a high-level official, says we will crush children's testicles in front of their parents. 0.97

00:04:40.000 So there's your loving government, getting you ready for the equivalent of a red Nazi terror, the likes of which the world's never seen. 0.99

00:04:48.000 And I know most of us will roll over and just ask them to blow our heads off.

00:04:52.000 Oh, government, thank you! 0.99

00:04:54.000 Blow my head off!

00:04:56.000 You're so good!

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00:08:08.000 Welcome, my friends, eight minutes, 15 seconds into this first hour, second segment.

00:08:20.000 Amen. .

00:08:21.000 We have a UT professor coming on who wrote, I think, a really fair book, very accurate, about Andrew Jackson, An amazing president.

00:08:33.000 I mean, a orphan.

00:08:34.000 His mother died in the Revolutionary War.

00:08:36.000 He was in the Revolutionary War when he was 12 years old.

00:08:39.000 Both his brothers died.

00:08:41.000 His father died before he was born.

00:08:42.000 He was on the front lines of the wilds of South Carolina.

00:08:50.000 When it was the very edge of the frontier and his whole life he beat Lord Wellington's armies that had never been beaten by anybody in history when he was fifty-something years old at the Battles of New Orleans.

00:09:02.000 I say battles because there was two battles.

00:09:04.000 It's called the Battle of New Orleans.

00:09:05.000 Then of course he went on to be President, defeat the big central banks that are our Federal Reserve today.

00:09:10.000 They were able to take us down in 1913.

00:09:13.000 So, Andrew Jackson, often demonized, you'll learn why from a UT professor, who is also a best-selling author, who is scheduled to join us in the second hour.

00:09:22.000 And then Paul Joseph Watson joins us from his report from the prison planet that our planet is being turned into.

00:09:29.000 He joins us from Sheffield, England to talk about Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center 7, giving us his new excuse for why he said he blew the buildings up.

00:09:37.000 All the evidence shows they blew them up, but he admitted he blew them up.

00:09:40.000 We'll also get into the latest torture developments, the police state developments.

00:09:45.000 There is so much more with Paul Joseph Watson, the editor over at PrisonPlanet.com, one of my great news services and websites.

00:09:55.000 You know, we've signed up, I don't know, what is it, like seven news stations the last two weeks?

00:10:01.000 The Great Affiliate Relations sent me an email, but for some reason I couldn't find it in my thousands of emails this morning, literally.

00:10:08.000 But I do want to thank a lot of the new affiliates that we've got out there.

00:10:12.000 We are so appreciative of all of the stations that carry us.

00:10:16.000 But AM 1340 is in Needles, Arizona, but it also goes into California.

00:10:24.000 What, three states?

00:10:25.000 So that's a great affiliate there, AM1340 out of Needles there in Arizona.

00:10:31.000 And also in Montana, we have a new affiliate in, how do you pronounce it?

00:10:39.000 Calasis, I believe.

00:10:40.000 I'm going to make locals mad that I've even been through that town.

00:10:44.000 And that's KGEZ AM600.

00:10:47.000 And of course, Corpus Christi just turned us on.

00:10:52.000 Several other stations.

00:10:53.000 There's a whole bunch.

00:10:54.000 It was seven stations like a week ago, and I haven't plugged any of them, and I apologize about that.

00:10:59.000 So it's great to have more affiliates on board with us to really be growing.

00:11:03.000 And again, I want to thank all the affiliates that have been carrying us in some cases as long as eight plus years since this broadcast went into syndication.

00:11:14.000 Man, where to start?

00:11:15.000 I mean, this is the kind of news that faces me every day.

00:11:17.000 So before I start ranting about one subject, let me just go through the type of headlines that stare me down every day.

00:11:23.000 Totally admit it.

00:11:24.000 Okay?

00:11:26.000 Women who eat GM foods while pregnant risk endangering their unborn babies, startling new research shows.

00:11:33.000 And again, I've had the fathers on of DNA sequencing, the fathers of DNA coding and proteins.

00:11:40.000 I mean, top individuals, top scientists who made major developments, who've gone public and said, I quit doing this, I quit being paid $20 million a year When we found that it's really killing all mammals that come in contact with it.

00:11:54.000 Now I want you to understand something.

00:11:55.000 This is on store shelves now.

00:11:58.000 This is why everyone now has allergies, people who never had it have allergies, because then other pathogens in the air, other things that confuse the body, it makes you more susceptible, more easy to trigger when you're eating any of this GMO corn, when you're eating any of this GMO soy.

00:12:16.000 There are literally, literally dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of studies That I have personally read.

00:12:23.000 See folks, I set up late at night calmly.

00:12:25.000 I'm actually a pretty calm person around the office.

00:12:27.000 The people that go out to dinner with me, they're like, man, you're so calm, you know, in person.

00:12:31.000 Why are you so upbeat on the air?

00:12:33.000 Because then I get focused here.

00:12:35.000 Then I, you know, get serious off of the, really it's frustration.

00:12:39.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:12:40.000 Last night I couldn't sleep.

00:12:42.000 I was so angry about everything that's happening and so upset and so threatened.

00:12:48.000 By all the incredibly bad things that are happening, and my desire to beat them.

00:12:54.000 That even though I was exhausted, I couldn't go to bed.

00:12:56.000 So I got up and I wrote a couple pages of notes.

00:12:59.000 And then every time I try to articulate, just... The problem is, I can't even articulate how bad it is.

00:13:06.000 Anything you can imagine, no matter how horrible it is, the governments of the Western world are openly doing it.

00:13:13.000 I mean, literally.

00:13:14.000 It is so diabolical.

00:13:17.000 It is so massive, but let me just read to you, I'm sorry, see, I said that I'd just read the headlines and then I had to stop.

00:13:26.000 GM, new study shows unborn babies could be harmed.

00:13:30.000 London Independent.

00:13:31.000 Mortality rate for newborn rats six times higher when mother was fed on diet of modified soy.

00:13:39.000 And folks, this exact soy is in almost everything.

00:13:44.000 I mean, processed foods.

00:13:45.000 It is, read on the back.

00:13:47.000 And because the GMO soy is the predominant variety now grown.

00:13:52.000 Now there's a whole bunch of different varieties of that subdivision and we've again done massive shows on this with the farmers, the scientists, you name it, what it does and it's just right here and there's no debating it and think about how psychotic the government is and how nuts the big pharma is that they just do this.

00:14:12.000 I had a New York Times article yesterday That we never even covered.

00:14:17.000 I mentioned the headline, never covered it.

00:14:19.000 About all these big studies coming out showing that genetically modified crops have spread into almost every species of plant.

00:14:26.000 They're now killing whole fields, whole other species of plants that come in contact with them are now dying and losing their capacity to reproduce.

00:14:34.000 And that's what the company said.

00:14:36.000 I remember five years ago they had them on Santo.

00:14:39.000 He gave a speech, and it's been in a bunch of newspapers, saying, our plan is to contaminate everything, then we own the courts, and the courts will say, since we contaminated you, that we really then own all other plant species.

00:14:53.000 You ever seen that movie, The Thing, not the 1950s version, but the 1980s version, where The Thing takes over everything, but then looks like it?

00:15:02.000 Okay?

00:15:03.000 That is actually what a lot of these varieties do.

00:15:06.000 Literally.

00:15:08.000 It just doesn't happen in 30 seconds with spider legs popping out and pus squirting across the room.

00:15:13.000 Okay?

00:15:15.000 It just moves in and takes over, and then makes the plant inedible, or the plant stops reproducing, or it totally gets taken over.

00:15:23.000 I mean, it is a cornucopia, literally, of evil.

00:15:26.000 Pun intended.

00:15:28.000 You see, I can't just read one article and then just move on to the next.

00:15:32.000 It is killing us!

00:15:37.000 But the phony environmental movement, financed by the same corporations doing this, they're too busy just stealing people's private property.

00:15:42.000 And people get upset about the environment, they give money to the kid that comes to your door, they give money to fight for the environment locally, and it really goes to a big bank to steal your property.

00:15:51.000 I could do five shows on that and I have.

00:15:51.000 Public.

00:15:53.000 Here's another one.

00:15:54.000 Iran breaks seals at nuclear site.

00:15:56.000 Israel and U.S.

00:15:57.000 said they could attack at any time.

00:15:58.000 It could be tomorrow, it could be six months from now.

00:16:00.000 And they're telling Turkey, get ready, we're going to attack them. 0.99

00:16:03.000 We're going to use you as a military base.

00:16:06.000 Young adults have healthy attitude towards privacy.

00:16:09.000 This is a good news.

00:16:10.000 Here they did a major poll that found that despite not growing up in the age of the KGB, a national poll of people 18 to 29, the majority do not like Big Brother.

00:16:19.000 Well, I'd think so, but that's coming up later.

00:16:21.000 That's some good news.

00:16:23.000 Here's one Associated Press.

00:16:24.000 Mexico demands U.S. 0.85

00:16:26.000 allow more immigration and said migrants, regardless of their migratory status, should not be treated like criminals and demands a guest worker program, which is total legalization, Bush agrees.

00:16:36.000 And then, remember we wrote the headline about six months ago about border war?

00:16:41.000 Our headline was war zone, total breakdown of society, hundreds dead, rocket attacks?

00:16:47.000 Finally, ABC News.

00:16:49.000 But their answer is the Kest Worker Program. 0.72

00:16:52.000 That will fix it.

00:16:53.000 Drug War Zone rattles U.S.-Mexico border.

00:16:57.000 And it says that it is an actual war zone, again, more dangerous than the West Bank of Israel.

00:17:04.000 But of course, all their solutions are totally false.

00:17:07.000 A U.S. 0.66

00:17:07.000 troop sees award-winning Iraqi journalist who works for London Guardian. 0.66

00:17:12.000 They have the nerve to get on the news and say there's free newspapers over there.

00:17:16.000 Then it turns out they're all Pentagon fakes.

00:17:18.000 No one is allowed to report anything.

00:17:21.000 Before the war, the Pentagon said we will kill journalists that don't report what we say.

00:17:25.000 And then it's a mystery when CNN goes, we think they're killing our reporters.

00:17:29.000 Of course they are!

00:17:31.000 U.S.

00:17:31.000 troops seize award-winning Iraqi journalists.

00:17:33.000 Listen to this.

00:17:34.000 Now folks, I have an audio clip of this.

00:17:38.000 And I don't even know if I want to play it.

00:17:41.000 Bush Adviser says President has legal power to torture children. 0.97

00:17:45.000 And it says, John Yoo publicly argued that there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspected terrorist in custody, including by crushing that child's testicles. 0.96

00:17:59.000 Now, I mean, folks, this is the real America. 0.93

00:18:02.000 Now, we told you what was in the Washington Post, the CIA Section Chief bragged This makes my stomach turn.

00:18:11.000 Bragged that they, and this was back in early 2002, that they were doing rendition and taking, quote, terrorist suspects to Egypt and Jordan where they tortured their children in front of them.

00:18:21.000 I put that news article in Road to Tyranny.

00:18:24.000 Remember back when I put that film out in 2002?

00:18:27.000 Nobody even heard of torture.

00:18:29.000 I even got calls and emails.

00:18:30.000 Why are you talking about torture in your film?

00:18:32.000 What?

00:18:33.000 Then they were just preparing us to accept it. 0.99

00:18:36.000 And man, they take those little kids in there, and the Army's Own Report admits, and they got these sicko jail guards, and they rape them. 0.98

00:18:42.000 That's the Army's Own Report. 0.99

00:18:44.000 Raping small children.

00:18:47.000 And the sick thing is, then the Bush administration official, high level, gets up at a major university, and we have clips of it, in Chicago, A first debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar Doug Cassel, we're going to get him on, and actually said that that is good.

00:19:08.000 Now, you don't think he's just doing that on his own.

00:19:10.000 No, they've been told to psychologically condition us and push the frontiers. 0.96

00:19:16.000 Folks, if they're saying, crushing children's testicles is good, what's coming next? 0.97

00:19:22.000 I mean, God, what have we become? 0.98

00:19:24.000 The Nazis didn't go this far. 0.89

00:19:28.000 When Mengele tortured children, it was a hidden secret.

00:19:32.000 And it was a secret when our government hired him and brought him over here through paperclip.

00:19:37.000 Operation Paperclip and the Rat Line.

00:19:40.000 And I just, I just feel dirty.

00:19:44.000 I feel like I haven't done enough, I haven't fought enough, I haven't resisted these people enough.

00:19:50.000 They all need to be arrested right now!

00:19:52.000 George Bush and all of them! 0.99

00:19:55.000 Just like Paul Craig Roberts says, they are worse than Nazis! 0.94

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00:23:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:24:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:14.000 Seriously, folks, we've got an audio clip we're going to play later where...

00:24:23.000 Where...

00:24:26.000 This Bush administration official, John Yoo, had written in presidential documents that if the president wanted to order things like this to be done to children, that he used the law, he could do it.

00:24:37.000 So a professor brought this up to him, his quotes, and he said, yeah, the president wants to do that, he can.

00:24:43.000 Folks, everybody knows, I don't care what the politicians say, that George Bush isn't allowed to say Drive down the street and decide he wants to walk into a liquor store and shoot the clerk behind the counter and then grab a bottle of Jack Daniels and run out the door.

00:24:58.000 He isn't allowed to commit murder.

00:25:00.000 George Bush isn't allowed to snort cocaine.

00:25:03.000 George Bush isn't allowed to violate the Constitution or he should be impeached.

00:25:08.000 He is not above the law.

00:25:10.000 In fact, government servants, public servants, they now call themselves officials and authorities.

00:25:16.000 Never called that until about 20 years ago.

00:25:18.000 They told you to call them that, see?

00:25:20.000 That's how it is in Europe and China, where, oh, you're the official.

00:25:24.000 Oh, sir!

00:25:25.000 Oh, sir!

00:25:26.000 And now it's happening here.

00:25:29.000 Now it's going on in the United States of America, formerly Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.

00:25:36.000 So that's the kind of news I've got here in front of me. 0.99

00:25:39.000 Bush Advisor says President has legal power to torture children and crush their testicles in front of their parents. 0.96

00:25:45.000 And they got all the 24 shows and shows like Spooks and every one of these shows they torture kids and it's always good. 0.98

00:25:51.000 Torturing the kid gets the CC.

00:25:53.000 It's not enough to condition you to accept torture.

00:25:56.000 If they get you to accept torturing children, see, then you'll accept anything.

00:26:00.000 But it was to get the, you know, the nuke deactivated and save the city.

00:26:04.000 And of course that scenario will never happen.

00:26:08.000 But it's to get you to play those little psychological games with yourself to move your compass.

00:26:16.000 Leaked facts shows Romania helps CIA interrogators in torture on the Telegraph and Egyptian government facts intercepted by Swiss intelligence offers the first real evidence that the U.S.

00:26:26.000 interrogated suspects terrorists at secret prisons in Eastern Europe, European politicians said yesterday.

00:26:32.000 I always love how they act like it's so hard, but I guess for a journalist who's just now reporting on this like David Rennie for the London Telegraph, I guess it is hard.

00:26:44.000 Because he wasn't following torture ten years ago.

00:26:46.000 Okay?

00:26:48.000 In 2002, they were in the Washington Post.

00:26:50.000 The CIA said they were torturing children in Central Asia, in the Middle East, and in Europe.

00:26:57.000 They were taking them to third-party countries for torture.

00:27:00.000 They used the word torture.

00:27:02.000 Torture.

00:27:03.000 So everyone's looking for the first real proof.

00:27:07.000 Again, it'd be like if somebody committed a crime, admitted to it, been found with the evidence, and then everyone's going, oh my gosh, we need evidence.

00:27:17.000 The highly classified facts, which will probably turn out being fake.

00:27:20.000 See, whenever something like this happens, it's usually what they call a honeypot.

00:27:23.000 Disinfo to be disproven. 0.99

00:27:26.000 Because I say that, because I don't think they're that stupid, all the media, to ignore. 0.98

00:27:29.000 Back when they thought, right from 9-11, we'd buy anything. 1.00

00:27:32.000 When they were going, yeah, we torture kids, yeah! 1.00

00:27:35.000 I mean, now we have them!

00:27:37.000 I mean, they're admitting it!

00:27:38.000 It's like Dick Cheney in the P-9 document in September.

00:27:42.000 20th 2000 says Saddam isn't a threat.

00:27:45.000 He says Saddam is not a threat, but offers a pretext to invade and use Iraq as a central hub for the invasion of Iran and Syria.

00:27:52.000 The oil supplies will also be quite lucrative.

00:27:54.000 I mean, he says it!

00:27:56.000 It's not like it's Bush's biographer saying it.

00:27:58.000 It's not like it's Richard Clarke saying it or O'Neill saying it.

00:28:02.000 Treasury Secretary, it is Dick Cheney!

00:28:06.000 Dick Cheney!

00:28:07.000 I have a little rap song.

00:28:09.000 I mean, it's just, hey, Dick Cheney!

00:28:12.000 I mean, I'll never... See, this is where my frustration comes from.

00:28:15.000 It's all admitted.

00:28:17.000 We're debating the NSA listening to foreign calls to the U.S.

00:28:20.000 from the NSA 20 years ago, and now they're listening to domestic U.S.

00:28:23.000 calls.

00:28:24.000 Declassified public.

00:28:25.000 The media acts like they don't know about it.

00:28:28.000 We sit here and we debate how they're listening to us when transponders are going in the cars nationwide to track our every movement.

00:28:34.000 When you can call the cell phone company and say, where am I?

00:28:36.000 And they'll tell you, well that's a federal operation and hooked into the NSA right now and about to be hooked into every major police department, every squad car!

00:28:43.000 Your name, everything about you, where you're going, what you're doing, and the cop can punch a few keys and use your phone as a audio sensor.

00:28:50.000 And you don't believe me on that.

00:28:51.000 I remember when they put Microphones in.

00:28:54.000 Five years ago in Austin, Texas.

00:28:56.000 No, six years ago.

00:28:58.000 And it said, Gun Shot Detectors.

00:29:00.000 Then I read the name of the company that had the microphones.

00:29:02.000 You go to their company, they brag about how they can listen to a kid on the street talking to his friend at 200 yards away.

00:29:07.000 You can listen to the audio online.

00:29:10.000 And I said, watch, when they're ready, they're going to announce them as microphones.

00:29:13.000 And now, from Rochester, New York to Austin, Texas.

00:29:16.000 See, they never went after one gunshot.

00:29:19.000 They never went after any... They just quietly put them all in and just said, those are sketch gunshots.

00:29:23.000 And now they're announcing, hey, we're going to be listening to you!

00:29:26.000 And we're going to have the citizens able to dial into them and listen in hippas.

00:29:31.000 In fact, I'm going to control myself.

00:29:33.000 I promised myself to do this.

00:29:35.000 Paul Watson's writing notes right now.

00:29:38.000 Put a story together on this.

00:29:39.000 I'm going to come back and go through the latest Big Brother developments calmly, if that's possible.

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00:33:01.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:33:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:16.000 It was a Fort Worth police officer who gave me this about, not about, six and a half years ago up in Waco.

00:33:26.000 We were building a memorial church for all those that died up there, a chapel.

00:33:30.000 And it's an old painting.

00:33:32.000 It's a print of a painting.

00:33:33.000 No man in the wrong can stand up against a fella that is in the right and keeps on a coming.

00:33:39.000 Texas Ranger Captain Bill McDonald.

00:33:42.000 And that's true.

00:33:42.000 No man in the wrong can stand up against a fella that is in the right and keeps on a coming.

00:33:51.000 And that's the key.

00:33:52.000 We Americans were known for standing up.

00:33:54.000 We started laying down.

00:33:56.000 And I just get so angry.

00:33:59.000 I keep saying that.

00:34:00.000 I am so... It feels good, though.

00:34:02.000 I mean, this is what I felt like six, seven, eight years ago.

00:34:04.000 And over time, I just kind of got conditioned.

00:34:06.000 I would still get angry some, but I am just energized because now so many people are waking up, but at the same time, the enemy, the New World Order, these criminals that control our government, have just pulled out all of the stops.

00:34:22.000 Oh, by the way, here are some of the commuter stations that we've signed up in the last week and a half that I wanted to thank.

00:34:27.000 KTOX AM 1340, and that is in Needles, and the Mojave Valley, Bullhead City, and Lake Hanasu City.

00:34:40.000 And, of course, KGEZ AM 600, and that is in Talispel.

00:34:47.000 And Poulsen, and we're really excited about that, and KCLT AM, and that's in Corpus Christi, Texas, 1150 AM.

00:34:59.000 And there's a whole bunch of other stations I need to get the information on so I can plug them, because that's something I really, again, don't do enough, and I want to thank all of those new stations.

00:35:07.000 We need to get also an updated list on the website, there's so many.

00:35:12.000 Four folks that can specifically tune in and listen to the show.

00:35:15.000 I guarantee you we've got listeners in listening areas that are listening on the internet or shortwave or satellite that don't even know they can pick us up when I am in FM.

00:35:23.000 I mean, what have we got, like, four affiliates now in Illinois about to get a fifth?

00:35:28.000 We've got three affiliates in Ohio about to get a fourth.

00:35:33.000 My point is, places that we weren't even on in the past, we're really starting to build in.

00:35:39.000 In my own state of Texas, though, only on a few stations.

00:35:42.000 And frankly, it's because most people down here, at least some of them, just they don't care if Bush wants their guns.

00:35:48.000 They've been told that's conservative and they're ready to hand them in.

00:35:50.000 And I'm not kidding about it.

00:35:52.000 I've had them tell me, you're one of those right-wing conservatives.

00:35:54.000 Why, I'm for gun control. 0.98

00:35:56.000 And I'm just like, well, you just enjoy yourself then.

00:35:59.000 Please go from us in peace. 0.99

00:36:01.000 Forget that we were ever your countrymen and may your chains sit lightly upon you and crouch and lick the hand that feeds you. 1.00

00:36:12.000 I'm paraphrasing one of those old, dead, white guys, but it makes my top blow. 0.83

00:36:18.000 I mean, when I see a high-level Bush administration official, and by the way, get that clip ready, and this isn't the best audio, it was recorded up in Chicago at one of these big university debates where they, of course, never allow cameras and videotape to be there, but somebody did catch it on video, and this is This is audio off the video of John Yoo, who worked high level in the Bush administration.

00:36:39.000 Let me just read part of this.

00:36:40.000 Bush advisor says president has legal power to torture children. 0.98

00:36:45.000 John Yoo publicly argued that there is no law that could prevent the president from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody, including by crushing that child's testicles.

00:36:59.000 And this came out in response to a question in the December 1st debate in Chicago with a Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar, Doug, at Council.

00:37:08.000 I'm going to try to get both these guys on.

00:37:11.000 What is particularly chilling And revealing about this is that John Yoo was a key architect post 9-1-1 Bush administration legal policy and a deputy assistant to the then Attorney General John Ashcroft.

00:37:23.000 John Yoo authored a number of legal memos arguing for unlimited presidential powers to order torture of captive suspects and to declare war anytime, anywhere on anyone the President deemed a threat.

00:37:35.000 It has now come out that you also had a hand in providing legal reasoning for the President to conduct unauthorized wiretaps of U.S.

00:37:44.000 citizens, Georgetown Law Professor David Cole wrote, Few lawyers have had more influence on President Bush's legal policies and the war on terror than John Yoo was one of his counsels.

00:37:54.000 So was Alberto Gonzalez who said the President is law and we can torture people to death.

00:37:59.000 Remember that?

00:37:59.000 Those four memos are public.

00:38:01.000 This part of the exchange during the debate with Doug Castle reveals the logic of Hughes' theories adopted by the administration as bedrock principles in the real world. 0.62

00:38:10.000 Castle, if the President deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of a person's child, there is no law that could stop him? 0.95

00:38:18.000 You. 0.99

00:38:18.000 No treaty. 0.99

00:38:19.000 Also, no law by Congress, Castle said.

00:38:22.000 That is what you wrote in August 2002 memo of the President.

00:38:25.000 You.

00:38:25.000 I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

00:38:29.000 He goes on that yes, he can.

00:38:31.000 You reasoned that because the Constitution makes the President the Commander-in-Chief, no law can restrict the actions he may take in pursuit of war.

00:38:38.000 On this reasoning, the President would be entitled by the Constitution to resort to genocide if he wished.

00:38:44.000 Folks, that is an actual quote right there.

00:38:47.000 Oh, genocide!

00:38:48.000 Oh, yeah!

00:38:50.000 I guess he did fund Hitler, as granted he did, and their main money, their family, publicly. 0.75

00:38:54.000 The New York Times is from the Hitlers. 0.83

00:38:56.000 So, let's be honest, Fritz Giesen, the man that paid Hitler, the main industrialist, go ahead and roll this sicko. 0.98

00:39:05.000 If the President deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop that. 0.97

00:39:16.000 And also no law by Congress. 0.98

00:39:16.000 No treaty. 0.98

00:39:18.000 That's what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

00:39:20.000 I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

00:39:26.000 And then if you want to go to the website, you can link to another site that has more of it where he gets into the genocide and stuff.

00:39:31.000 Folks, let me explain something again.

00:39:33.000 The president, Joseph Mingala, and this is well documented.

00:39:38.000 In fact, one of my counterparts, the guy's dead now, even interviewed the German driver, this was not part of some Soviet propaganda, this is true, who actually drove Mingala with five kids in a car.

00:39:50.000 And he'd do this every few weeks, it was just an enjoyment.

00:39:53.000 You know, some people like to go fly fishing.

00:39:55.000 Some people like to go hiking.

00:39:56.000 Some people like white water rafting.

00:39:57.000 Some people like to go play pool.

00:39:59.000 Some people like to blow little kids' heads off.

00:40:00.000 You know, Jeffrey Dahmer. 1.00

00:40:01.000 People like that like to kill them other ways.

00:40:03.000 And Mingala, Joseph Mingala, who was later protected by the U.S.

00:40:07.000 government publicly.

00:40:09.000 That's public, just like Wernher von Braun and the rest of them.

00:40:11.000 Wernher von Braun Space Center, high schools, colleges named after him.

00:40:15.000 Of course, it's not true.

00:40:16.000 I know!

00:40:16.000 It's not true.

00:40:17.000 Everything's fine.

00:40:19.000 Go back to Sleep America. 0.87

00:40:20.000 He would march the five little kids out.

00:40:23.000 Sometimes six little kids, as many as they could pack in the big car.

00:40:26.000 He'd hand them chocolates on the side of the road.

00:40:29.000 And, uh, they would eat the chocolates, and he would ask them if they were good, and then he would just, uh, get a gleeful look on his face with his luger, and he would blow their little heads off.

00:40:43.000 Now, uh, thousands of these characters, some not as vicious as Mingela, some more vicious, were brought to the United States.

00:40:53.000 Of course, Mengele's family were the equivalent of billionaires.

00:40:56.000 And so he was taken care of quite nicely.

00:40:58.000 He lived in the U.S., out in Midland, Texas for a while.

00:41:01.000 Then he had to run away because there was a few Jewish groups that couldn't be bought off, wouldn't go along with it, so he had to run down to Brazil. 1.00

00:41:08.000 But that's just public.

00:41:09.000 That's public knowledge.

00:41:10.000 Your government took him.

00:41:12.000 And he'd take twins and sew them together, cut kids' eyeballs out, or he'd tie a woman's legs together when she was going to give birth. 0.77

00:41:19.000 I mean, you want to hear more?

00:41:21.000 You don't have to now. 0.97

00:41:22.000 You can just hear the White House counsel saying, genocide's good, crushing testicles is good, torturing children's good, and we can do whatever we want. 0.97

00:41:33.000 And that is tyranny, folks. 0.97

00:41:34.000 They got the guns, they got the fighter bombers, they got the mindless cops to follow the orders and think this is part of some good country.

00:41:40.000 The people running America are killing America.

00:41:43.000 And they got all this moral authority baloney of why they do it and all these public relations ads and all these public service commercials about why the government loves you and how they're doing this for you.

00:41:53.000 And they do a lot of good things, on purpose, on the surface, to make you think it's okay.

00:41:58.000 While they carry out their real operations behind the scenes.

00:42:00.000 And even when it's a good thing they're doing.

00:42:02.000 Like, I'm all for trauma centers.

00:42:05.000 More trauma centers in Texas.

00:42:07.000 But we wouldn't need more money if we weren't being bankrupted by the conservatively 9 million illegal aliens in Texas. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Yes, folks, 9 million.

00:42:16.000 Supposedly we're only 25 million people.

00:42:17.000 You go, what do you mean 9 million?

00:42:20.000 The government says 6 million, and anything they say is at least twice as much.

00:42:23.000 But I'm even cutting that down.

00:42:24.000 9 million is one of the internal government numbers that we've seen in some documents.

00:42:29.000 9 million, and that was 2004 numbers.

00:42:31.000 They come out a year late, and I saw those a few months ago, so I'm sure it's worse now.

00:42:35.000 9 million illegal aliens getting free health care that you and I pay for.

00:42:40.000 Now, that is in the tune of around $10 billion a year.

00:42:46.000 California, it's around $20 billion a year or more.

00:42:48.000 That's not counting corrections.

00:42:50.000 About 40% of their population is illegal aliens out in California.

00:42:54.000 So instead of doing something about that, we say our trauma hospitals are overloaded. 1.00

00:42:59.000 So when that stupid DPS cop, I shouldn't say stupid, ignorant, probably a smart guy. 0.99

00:43:05.000 So when he pulls me over, and he pulls me over, And he tells me I'm gonna get points on my driver's license if I'm convicted of this latest speeding thing when I wasn't speeding. 1.00

00:43:16.000 If I'm speeding, I'll admit it.

00:43:18.000 I admitted it last time on air.

00:43:21.000 That, uh, I'm gonna have to pay big money.

00:43:24.000 And, but it's okay, he's smirking, cause it pays for hospitals.

00:43:28.000 And then, of course, I went and looked it up and found news articles where they're not giving the money to hospitals to begin with.

00:43:32.000 Oh, but it sounded real good, didn't it?

00:43:35.000 And by the way, you're going to end up losing your job, mister! 0.89

00:43:38.000 That's also part of the plan, but you're too lazy to go read the documents and what the State Board of Transportation is admitting we're moving towards under federal grants.

00:43:47.000 By the way, the feds will give you 20 million bucks and then expect billions in revenue off of it.

00:43:52.000 This isn't free federal money to begin with.

00:43:54.000 They take it, send 30 cents back, and then mandate 20 times that much spending back on us.

00:43:59.000 It's just all a scam!

00:44:01.000 Man, we're getting scammed every which way but loose!

00:44:07.000 Now, I know Paul Watson's listening patiently, and he wanted to hear my specific rant on Big Brother, so that he could write an article about it.

00:44:15.000 And listen up, then, my compadre.

00:44:18.000 This is how we do it.

00:44:19.000 I'll rant on air about the information.

00:44:21.000 He will then compile my comments, and of course find hyperlinks to every statement I make, because they're all documented.

00:44:25.000 He does a great job.

00:44:27.000 He does the real work.

00:44:28.000 And then Paul will add his points to it, and that's when you see an Alex Jones-Paul Watson article.

00:44:31.000 That's what happened.

00:44:35.000 Let me just settle down for a minute.

00:44:39.000 Let me just settle down for a minute.

00:44:44.000 I have these articles here in my stack.

00:44:50.000 Let me just read this to you.

00:44:51.000 This isn't Alex Jones writing this.

00:44:52.000 This is the BBC, okay?

00:44:55.000 This is the BBC.

00:44:57.000 Rights Group criticizes AsaboTV.

00:45:00.000 Comment.

00:45:01.000 This, combined with the government's encouragement for Londoners to report their neighbors for suspicious activity, including dropping bubble gum, of which potential signs of terrorism include owning a vehicle, living in a house, or getting a refund on a credit card, fuse the infrastructure of the classic total surveillance state with civilian tattletale squads forming the modern Stasi.

00:45:26.000 And then, this is what the article says, civil rights campaigners have voiced concern about a new channel Allowing householders in East London to monitor local CCTV cameras dubbed SaboTV.

00:45:39.000 The project will enable residents to compare suspicious characters with an on-screen rogues gallery from their living rooms.

00:45:47.000 Viewers can then alert police to anyone in a breach of anti-social behavior.

00:45:52.000 Or committing a crime.

00:45:53.000 A Sabo Concern said the scheme was a gimmick and would be open to abuse.

00:45:58.000 Fear of crime.

00:45:59.000 And it goes on to say that the CCTV channel is part of a 12 million pound or 24 million dollar... That's not true.

00:46:06.000 12 million pounds is about 22 million.

00:46:09.000 Okay.

00:46:10.000 million community network project being set up in the area under a 10-year government-funded recognition program in one of the country's most deprived areas.

00:46:25.000 Suddenly I can't read.

00:46:27.000 I'm so freaked out by all this.

00:46:28.000 About 1,000 residents in the Harbor, Dosher, and Charles Square estates will pilot the scheme from March before it is rolled out to more than 20,000 households across the city, giving viewers access to some 400 cameras.

00:46:42.000 It will then be rolled out nationwide, of course.

00:46:45.000 Now the exact same thing is going to be done in the U.S. two years ago, New York Times.

00:46:49.000 But here they're going to make you watch it, either over your computer or over your cable system.

00:46:57.000 They will put it in and for your public service, for tickets or anything else, this is responsibility, you will have to watch starting at two hours a week, if you wish to be paid, upwards of 20 hours a week.

00:47:07.000 This will be the new job in America, sitting there watching for terrorism. 0.59

00:47:11.000 But then it said, yeah, there isn't much terrorism, so we'll also be watching for crime.

00:47:15.000 You see, because they can't, they've tried to develop computers that are AI, artificially intelligent, They pick up stuff and they claim they have biometric stuff that can tell if you're a terrorist because of how you walk.

00:47:26.000 Just type that in.

00:47:27.000 They can tell you're a terrorist by how you walk.

00:47:29.000 You'll get probably 50 articles.

00:47:30.000 No, you'll get about 500.

00:47:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:32.000 Really, there's hundreds I've seen.

00:47:34.000 And so, all of this is going on, just literally.

00:47:37.000 You see, I just said I was going to go over this, and I'm just covering one point and ranting about it.

00:47:43.000 Number one.

00:47:45.000 The government has been caught using chemical and biological and radiological weapons on the American people and the British people.

00:47:52.000 Thousands of times declassified.

00:47:53.000 They cannot be trusted to do anything.

00:47:55.000 They have no moral authority.

00:47:56.000 Then, statistically, governments have been found to engage in more criminal activity.

00:48:01.000 Then the general member of the public.

00:48:03.000 So again, they have no moral authority.

00:48:05.000 It is not because we have something to hide that we don't want this.

00:48:08.000 It's because we don't trust the government because all history and common sense shows that they do this to literally enslave you and abuse you because there's corrupt people that want more power and control.

00:48:20.000 And high-level dictators will put in thousands of viceroys and minions who will all set up their own little petty empires in your neighborhood and make your life a living hell! 0.99

00:48:32.000 Okay, that's point number one.

00:48:34.000 This is a total control grid, not so they can just have it in place, but so they can abuse us even further, and the more we put up with, even more control will be layered onto that.

00:48:46.000 This control grid is so they can enforce, force psychological testing and drugging, now a federal law to be done nationwide, Under New Freedom, it is so they can enforce a conscription, that is the national draft. 0.61

00:48:59.000 It's so they can enforce their land takings that are going to happen under zoning.

00:49:03.000 They're just openly taking private property without even just compensation now.

00:49:07.000 Again, all the indicators, folks!

00:49:09.000 You see, I'm just seeing this even clearer now.

00:49:11.000 This is happening faster than I personally thought it would happen.

00:49:16.000 Number three, they did not ask us.

00:49:19.000 You know, they claim They put it all in place first.

00:49:22.000 They were putting radio readers up eight years ago in Texas.

00:49:26.000 I saw an article six years ago in Indiana where they were putting up license plate readers and now they're going in nationwide.

00:49:34.000 Remember three years ago, the little Florida town, quote, everyone that goes through it has their, quote, records run?

00:49:39.000 That's already gone in nationwide.

00:49:41.000 But they're now announcing that in England.

00:49:43.000 Here they put it in place and then announce it. 0.92

00:49:45.000 Notice they put the cameras in first and said, oh, it's just for traffic, shut up.

00:49:49.000 And I told you they then announced, oh, the cops are going to use it.

00:49:52.000 That was always the plan.

00:49:53.000 See, now that's happening.

00:49:55.000 So they did not ask us.

00:49:57.000 Then, retroactively, when we do hear about it, there's polls in 85, 95, 98, depending on the poll.

00:50:03.000 I mean, almost everyone's against it, and they just don't care.

00:50:06.000 It's like Texas.

00:50:07.000 We beat the RFID tracker chip in the inspection sticker.

00:50:11.000 And what does the DPS do with the TxDOT?

00:50:14.000 They announce they're going to put at least 2 million of them in this year without even asking. 0.96

00:50:19.000 So, you're criminals! 0.99

00:50:22.000 I mean, you are criminals! 0.99

00:50:24.000 There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it! 0.98

00:50:26.000 You all deserve to go to prison! 0.82

00:50:29.000 Any of you that do this stuff! 0.98

00:50:32.000 I got 20 points here.

00:50:36.000 I said I'd be calm about this, but it's just, I've gotta, it's just, there's so much here.

00:50:43.000 I'm gonna go through all of it.

00:50:45.000 We got a big guest coming up.

00:50:46.000 I know we got callers, but you may not even get on.

00:50:49.000 Until later, because I've just got to cover all this.

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00:50:54.000 Stay with us.

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00:53:57.000 I got a star of my car and one of my...

00:54:10.000 I don't mean to start hyperventilating.

00:54:12.000 I didn't mean to sit there and bash the state police yesterday.

00:54:15.000 I had a really bad car wreck with my dad.

00:54:17.000 Pulling off the road by a tornado.

00:54:19.000 They were the ones that came and told us, "You don't know a tornado just hit?

00:54:22.000 How long ago this happened?

00:54:23.000 Ten minutes ago, we'll see that.

00:54:24.000 Just tore that barn up, just hit town." We were just driving along in, the guy gave us towels, because I had fire ants all over me, and put me in their car, and it was raining.

00:54:31.000 It was friendly, and that guy was a fan of the show.

00:54:35.000 Another one pulls up, "Hey, Alex Jones, how you doing?

00:54:37.000 Yeah, I like the show." And they had him pull me over and not give me tickets when I had been speeding.

00:54:41.000 The point is, I wasn't speeding this time, and the guy gave me a ticket.

00:54:44.000 And that isn't what made me mad.

00:54:45.000 It was the search the car business.

00:54:47.000 It was the, where you coming from, where you been, you know, all this.

00:54:51.000 I just don't need it, man.

00:54:52.000 I'm a free human being.

00:54:54.000 And then you give me something about a point system, and I go research it, and it's criminal!

00:55:02.000 It's just, it's all a scam.

00:55:04.000 And then the cops all think it's for hospitals, and it's not for hospitals.

00:55:08.000 It actually goes to a private Spanish company.

00:55:10.000 49% of it.

00:55:11.000 And then of the 49% that's supposed to go, 1% goes to the DPS.

00:55:16.000 Isn't that ridiculous?

00:55:17.000 I mean, just... Of the 49% that's supposed to go to the hospitals, what'd they say, about 12% of that's going? 0.59

00:55:25.000 And it said it's illegal, but just, well, no one's going to stop them.

00:55:28.000 It's just going to something else.

00:55:32.000 It's just the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:55:34.000 They got all these good little reasons of why they do is to con us and condition us that it's all wonderful.

00:55:40.000 What were the other points I made?

00:55:44.000 GPS in the cars for taxation regulation.

00:55:47.000 The cell phones.

00:55:48.000 Call up with your cell phone and tell them, where am I?

00:55:51.000 And they'll tell you down to a few feet where you're at.

00:55:53.000 Well, the government's using that same system going in the emergency management systems.

00:55:57.000 The exact same transponder systems are going in England, the U.S., Germany, and Western Europe, showing it's global.

00:56:04.000 They're watching what you watch on your cable boxes, your digital cable boxes in TiVo.

00:56:09.000 Track exactly what you watch, how long you watch it, and what your psychological score is.

00:56:14.000 You know those 600 question psychologicals they give you at some jobs?

00:56:18.000 Police get them.

00:56:18.000 You've had them.

00:56:19.000 Well, imagine having millions of your choices over the years on computers and on cable.

00:56:24.000 They can really build a digital algorithm with that.

00:56:27.000 And it just goes on and on and on and on and on.

00:56:31.000 It's all totally un-American. 0.94

00:56:35.000 And it's systematic.

00:56:38.000 They've built the cage around us.

00:56:40.000 Now they're starting to turn it on.

00:56:42.000 And you've got all these happy Americans who grew up in this free country, this wonderland.

00:56:47.000 And the government's openly announced that they're doing all of this.

00:56:51.000 So when they take your pension funds, which is already starting to happen, because the dollar's going down in value, that automatically happens.

00:56:57.000 So when they take your private property, which they're now announcing they're going to do, under federal zoning at the local level, That you won't be able to resist.

00:57:05.000 I mean, they say they're going to do all these bad things.

00:57:11.000 It's so horrible.

00:57:12.000 I mean, we're not just going to be a police state, folks.

00:57:14.000 We're going to be the biggest one the world's ever seen.

00:57:16.000 America, bigger and better.

00:57:19.000 In my own state, we always do it bigger in Texas.

00:57:21.000 And boy, yeah, Texas is going to be one of the worst states in the Union.

00:57:25.000 It's just so sad to me.

00:57:27.000 My family, again, has deep roots here.

00:57:29.000 I was out on the family home place this weekend.

00:57:32.000 And you know, out there with old homesteads and old rock-lined wells, you know, built in the 1830s.

00:57:37.000 And just out there thinking about how free we used to be and we're not going to be.

00:57:41.000 It just makes me sad to know that at once free people are totally being enslaved and don't even know what's going on.

00:57:48.000 Listen, before I end this hour, We've still got a lot of specials.

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00:58:36.000 We'll be right back with the second hour, Andrew Jackson.

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00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:03.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Well, a high-level Bush administration official, authority, master ruler of the people, has written in memos that Bush is above the law and that they can torture children, genocide, They can crush children's body parts in front of their parents to, quote, make them talk.

00:59:35.000 You know, that's what the good guys do.

00:59:37.000 That's how sick all of this has gotten.

00:59:39.000 And I went through the control grid, how systematically, the government didn't ask us, and when we told them we didn't want it, they said, we don't care.

00:59:46.000 Put up the radio scanner readers for the RFID chips going on the inspection stickers and the registration stickers nationwide.

00:59:53.000 Even when we beat laws at the state level, they just still implement it.

00:59:56.000 I mean, it's just unbelievable.

00:59:59.000 They are tracking us with the computers, tracking us with the digital cable boxes, selling the data.

01:00:06.000 Companies are openly selling your personal data, selling your cell phone records to whoever wants them.

01:00:11.000 And all this was federally put in by the federal government.

01:00:13.000 The British government is going to sell all the National ID card data to whoever wants it.

01:00:19.000 They're putting into cable systems here in the U.S.

01:00:22.000 They're planning it.

01:00:23.000 It's now starting in England.

01:00:25.000 To have whole cable channels that are interactive where you can flip to any of thousands of cameras you want and zoom in and watch people and report it to the cops and have a gallery of even petty criminals and call the police for people.

01:00:37.000 They have these new laws.

01:00:38.000 They have these new laws where you go to jail if you drop litter, but then they can also take your house if you drop litter.

01:00:38.000 Oh, I forgot.

01:00:47.000 So, see, that's a police state, folks.

01:00:50.000 Well, that's like I'm having one of those moments.

01:00:54.000 What's the big island?

01:00:55.000 Singapore.

01:00:57.000 The Singapore.

01:00:58.000 It's been on television where a guy doesn't wash his hands in the bathroom.

01:01:01.000 Camera in the bathroom on national U.S.

01:01:02.000 television.

01:01:03.000 They're showing this on ABC News a few years ago.

01:01:05.000 Caller called in about it.

01:01:06.000 I have seen that footage.

01:01:07.000 And he walks out.

01:01:08.000 He's arrested by police.

01:01:10.000 Didn't wash his hands well.

01:01:11.000 It'll keep us safe.

01:01:13.000 You know, what costs safe?

01:01:15.000 Of course, the globalists are moving everything there.

01:01:16.000 That's going to be their headquarters.

01:01:18.000 One of their major headquarters.

01:01:19.000 Just a hellish world.

01:01:21.000 And now all over the U.S., cameras in restrooms, at the rest stops, cameras in school bathrooms, in the stalls.

01:01:27.000 Oh yeah, Paul Watson, add that to the article you're putting together.

01:01:30.000 Cameras in the bathrooms.

01:01:31.000 I mean, you know, just, there's no end to it.

01:01:35.000 It's all off the charts.

01:01:38.000 And the average American is totally unaware of the fact that any of this is even going on.

01:01:46.000 Meanwhile, the government's own documents come out that mercury in the vaccines has brain-damaged millions, and the CDC's own documents got released by Dan Burton's committees, and they say, yeah, it's brain-damaged millions, we gotta cover this up, but I'm not giving it to my kids.

01:01:58.000 The director actually says that in the meeting.

01:01:59.000 I'm not giving it to my granddaughter.

01:02:02.000 But we gotta cover this up.

01:02:03.000 I mean, I mean, how do you do that?

01:02:06.000 How do you not take care of people?

01:02:11.000 How do you let them knowingly be hurt?

01:02:15.000 That's how sick the people are that are running things.

01:02:19.000 And they go out and they recruit other like-minded people just like them.

01:02:25.000 That's what they do. 1.00

01:02:26.000 They've built an army of scum, an army of control freaks, an army of sociopaths that think that we are all basically their slaves. 1.00

01:02:35.000 And they're now moving against us. 1.00

01:02:39.000 And it is our duty to stand up against it and say no.

01:02:43.000 It is our duty to say this is our country.

01:02:45.000 And if we fight these things, these things are so wildly unpopular.

01:02:48.000 I mean, everyone's against cameras in bathrooms.

01:02:51.000 Every time they get caught, they get in trouble, the government.

01:02:54.000 Everyone is against transponders in the cars, taxing and tracing us and giving us tickets and turning every major road into a toll road.

01:03:00.000 Again, Houston polls are 98% against it.

01:03:04.000 We need to fight it to say no.

01:03:06.000 You know, we have the moral authority.

01:03:08.000 We have the majority on our side.

01:03:10.000 We have to say no to this whole thing.

01:03:11.000 Now, we're scheduled after the break to have Henry William Brands, who I'm a big fan of, very fair.

01:03:19.000 You know, it's not worshipful.

01:03:20.000 It's even-handed.

01:03:25.000 History, because I've already read several books about Andrew Jackson, pro and con.

01:03:29.000 And I think Andrew Jackson was our greatest president, personally.

01:03:33.000 The most sentinel, the most dynamic, someone who really set our course more than anyone else.

01:03:40.000 I mean, really, I see the twin peaks of Americana being Andrew Jackson and George Washington.

01:03:47.000 But, really, George Washington, in so many respects, was a figurehead.

01:03:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:06:52.000 Big Brother.

01:06:59.000 Mainstream media.

01:07:01.000 Government cover-ups.

01:07:03.000 You want answers?

01:07:04.000 Well, so does he.

01:07:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:18.000 Alright, our guest has a long bio here.

01:07:26.000 We're talking with prolific writer H.W.

01:07:28.000 Brands about history, politics, and Brand's book, Andrew Jackson, His Life and Times, which brings to life one of Alex's heroes, the true patriot, Andrew Jackson.

01:07:36.000 That's what's up on InfoWars.com.

01:07:39.000 And I'll say this right now.

01:07:41.000 You know, the man owned slaves.

01:07:42.000 The man was an Indian fighter.

01:07:45.000 He fought the Aboriginal population.

01:07:46.000 But it isn't like it was one of the disgraceful things of the 1880s where they're riding down a bunch of women and children.

01:07:52.000 And some of that did go on.

01:07:54.000 It would be 5,000 Indians against 2,000... 0.98

01:07:58.000 You know, 2,000 Americans or Tennesseans with 1,000 Indians with them.

01:08:02.000 I mean, the Indians were warlike. 1.00

01:08:04.000 They were killing each other continually.

01:08:05.000 They were doing this.

01:08:06.000 And so were Americans. 0.72

01:08:08.000 And so I'm not defending any of that.

01:08:10.000 And I'm not defending slavery.

01:08:12.000 You have to realize the time frame it was in, what was going on.

01:08:15.000 I judge him on his character.

01:08:18.000 I've read quite a few books on Jackson.

01:08:20.000 I've been to the Hermitage.

01:08:21.000 I have read foreign histories on him.

01:08:23.000 I've read negative histories on him.

01:08:24.000 they finally were able to dominate us with in 1913, and we've been a captive of the Anglo-American elite ever since. 0.98

01:08:30.000 So I'm just telling you, I've read quite a few books on Jackson.

01:08:34.000 I've been to the Hermitage.

01:08:35.000 I have read foreign histories on him.

01:08:39.000 I've read negative histories on him.

01:08:41.000 I think the best book I've read is the book by Henry William Brands, and we'll tell you about his website today and a lot more.

01:08:48.000 And, folks, he's written a bunch of bestselling books.

01:08:51.000 He was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and the Los Angeles Times Prize, as well as the New York Times Bestseller.

01:08:56.000 And he wrote The Age of Gold.

01:08:58.000 It was the Washington Post Best Book of 2002.

01:09:00.000 And it just goes on and on.

01:09:04.000 And so we are honored to have him on with us.

01:09:08.000 He also wrote Lone Star Nation, and that won a bunch of different awards.

01:09:13.000 And of course he's a historian, a professor, and I just think he did a really fair job.

01:09:17.000 Because frankly, I've read books that are more glowing, and more vitriolic, and put Jackson on more of a pedestal.

01:09:25.000 He just went off the facts, and you do get a hero.

01:09:28.000 And Mr. Brands, thank you so much for joining us today.

01:09:31.000 Delighted to be with you, Alex.

01:09:32.000 You bet.

01:09:34.000 We're going to start in just the 15 minutes we've gotten.

01:09:36.000 A few breaks in there.

01:09:38.000 First, tell us a little bit about yourself, about history.

01:09:40.000 We had a nice discussion during the break.

01:09:43.000 And why history is really a lens or a window to the future, in my opinion.

01:09:48.000 And then let's go through the life of Andrew Jackson.

01:09:51.000 I want to take particular time, if we can.

01:09:54.000 And obviously, folks, you've got to get the book.

01:09:55.000 I mean, believe me, you want to get this book.

01:09:58.000 But on his early years and then on his defeat of Lord Wellington's troops.

01:10:03.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:10:04.000 Sure.

01:10:04.000 Well, let me try to answer your question by explaining why I wrote the book on Andrew Jackson.

01:10:07.000 I've been teaching American history for about 25 years now.

01:10:11.000 And I noticed an odd discrepancy.

01:10:13.000 A discrepancy between people's attitudes toward Jackson during his own lifetime and for the generation to after.

01:10:20.000 And recent attitudes toward Jackson.

01:10:23.000 During his own time, Andrew Jackson was considered to be the towering figure of American politics, American public life.

01:10:29.000 He was often simply referred to as the hero, after his victory at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815.

01:10:35.000 And for the rest of his life, if you simply said the hero, everybody knew who you were talking about.

01:10:39.000 Sort of the way people who were interested in American, I don't know, pop music for the last 40 years could just mention the king, and everybody knew you were talking about Elvis Presley.

01:10:47.000 Or the Beatles, yeah.

01:10:48.000 Well, yeah, I mean, in some ways, Andrew Jackson was the Elvis Presley of his time.

01:10:52.000 He was considered a hero fully equal in stature to George Washington.

01:10:56.000 In fact, he was often considered, he was often called the second George Washington.

01:11:00.000 But if you really know Washington, he can't hold a candle to Jackson.

01:11:04.000 Well, Washington had a lot of advantages that Jackson didn't.

01:11:08.000 Jackson pretty much had to do it all his own.

01:11:11.000 Anyway, so Jackson was considered this immensely popular figure, a person who dominated American public life during the first half of the 19th century.

01:11:19.000 In fact, between Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

01:11:23.000 And in most of the South, even beyond Lincoln, on down into the 20th century, Jackson was the man of American public life and politics.

01:11:31.000 So, I knew enough about history to understand that part.

01:11:34.000 I also know enough about American recent politics to know that if you ask people today, if you ask historians, if you ask presidential biographers, if you ask people on the street to name the top five or ten presidents, Most of them would miss Andrew Jackson, or some would deliberately leave him out.

01:11:49.000 Well, frankly, I found most even educated people can't even list the first three.

01:11:53.000 They'll list modern presidents and maybe pro-George Washington then.

01:11:57.000 Right.

01:11:57.000 But the thing about Jackson is, unlike Thomas Jefferson, everybody at least knows about Thomas Jefferson, and understands that though he was a slaveholder, he was conflicted on the subject, and so he had a bad conscience.

01:12:09.000 And that gives Modern day people in the early 20th century, something to kind of hang on to, because Jefferson, although he, in fact Jefferson owned twice as many slaves as Jackson ever did, he still kind of, he has one foot in the camp of modernity you might say, or to put it another way, Jefferson is at least somewhat Politically correct.

01:12:30.000 Because he's saying the right things, even if he's not doing the right things.

01:12:33.000 The basic problem with Jackson is, he's the most politically incorrect president in American history.

01:12:39.000 As you said, he was a slaveholder.

01:12:40.000 But not only was he a slaveholder, he was an unrepentant slaveholder.

01:12:43.000 You know, George Washington owned more slaves than Jackson did, but at least George Washington emancipated his slaves after his death.

01:12:50.000 And you can interpret this one of two ways.

01:12:53.000 Either he was kind of late seeing the light, or else you could put it a little bit more cynically and say that, well, Washington squeezed all of the exploitation out of the slaves, and then after he died, realizing he couldn't take it away from them.

01:13:05.000 By the time Andrew Jackson had slaves, it was even becoming an unprofitable thing.

01:13:08.000 I'm not defending the institution, it was horrible, but by then a lot of times they'd try to free slaves and they wouldn't go anywhere because it was kind of a sharecropping thing.

01:13:16.000 And of course a large portion of the population that was white was basically in a sharecropping type position. 0.85

01:13:22.000 So my whole point is that it was accepted at the time, and all I look at Jackson as, was he a real person?

01:13:28.000 Was he controlled by special interests?

01:13:30.000 Did he defeat the British banking interest?

01:13:34.000 Who was a leader who actually thought he was doing something for the American people?

01:13:38.000 And I think looking at Jackson, you cannot deny that he was.

01:13:42.000 Well, in fact, no one controlled Andrew Jackson.

01:13:45.000 Most of the people who knew him realized he was, well, some were appalled that he was kind of uncontrollable.

01:13:51.000 But in fact, Andrew Jackson was very clearly his own man.

01:13:55.000 He was the first common person to become President of the United States.

01:13:59.000 He spent no more than a couple of years in formal schooling.

01:14:01.000 Couldn't we say that he was really the most primitive?

01:14:05.000 I mean, really, this guy was almost barbarian-like in where he came from. 0.91

01:14:08.000 Let's go over that history that you spend so much time on in the book.

01:14:11.000 At the age of 13, he joined the Revolutionary Army to fight against the British in the American Revolutionary War.

01:14:11.000 Sure.

01:14:17.000 He must have been, he had to have been, one of the youngest soldiers in the Revolutionary Army.

01:14:21.000 He was taken prisoner after one of the battles.

01:14:24.000 He was wounded while a prisoner by a British officer.

01:14:28.000 In fact, the story that Jackson tells is that this officer, looking at this young kid, he was now 14, ordered the kid, Jackson, to shine his boots, shine the officer's boots.

01:14:39.000 And Jackson apparently told this British officer that he could either shine his boots himself or stick them up his... In other words, he resented the demand and he refused to obey.

01:14:52.000 The British officer pulled out his sword and took a swipe at Jackson's head with his sword.

01:14:57.000 Jackson Duck threw up his hand to ward off the blow.

01:15:01.000 He suffered a severe gash in the side of his hand.

01:15:04.000 The sword continued and whacked Jackson in the side of his skull. 0.99

01:15:07.000 He bled like a stuck pig.

01:15:09.000 And for the rest of his life, Jackson, whenever he was nervous, would reach his hand up and just unthinkingly sort of feel that scar and that dent in his skull. 0.95

01:15:18.000 And for the rest of his life, Jackson harbored this deep resentment and hatred of the British.

01:15:23.000 The British were the source of all evil in Jackson's view.

01:15:26.000 Anyway, Jackson managed.

01:15:28.000 He was released as a prisoner.

01:15:29.000 But by the time the war was over...

01:15:33.000 Also, that was Colonel Tavigson's troops who in Mel Gibson's movie, they kind of combine a bunch of different historical events into one.

01:15:40.000 But that's the same Colonel Tavigson that's riding around engaging in all those activities just to bring it up to speed, which is something modern for people to kind of connect to.

01:15:50.000 Is that correct?

01:15:51.000 Well, as a matter of fact, his actual name is Bannister Tarleton, but yeah, he's the model for the Tavington in The Patriot.

01:15:57.000 Exactly, that same individual, yes.

01:15:59.000 Right.

01:16:00.000 So Jackson, when the war ends, Jackson is an orphan.

01:16:03.000 His father actually died before he was born.

01:16:05.000 He never knew his father.

01:16:07.000 His mother died during the war.

01:16:08.000 She fell ill and died.

01:16:11.000 So at the age of 15, Jackson is basically thrown upon the world.

01:16:14.000 His two brothers died during the war as well.

01:16:17.000 And his mother actually walked, I mean, just miles and miles to get him out of the stockade, and then she comes home and dies.

01:16:23.000 Oh, she was an exceedingly determined person.

01:16:25.000 And if Jackson And of course, Jackson's father died before Jackson came out of the womb.

01:16:34.000 Right.

01:16:35.000 So Jackson is basically turned loose on the world at the age of 15.

01:16:40.000 No parents, no siblings.

01:16:42.000 He did inherit a little bit of money from an uncle back in Scotland, which he promptly proceeded to gamble away.

01:16:50.000 So now at 16, he doesn't know what to do with himself.

01:16:54.000 He has no land, he has no money, he has no family.

01:16:57.000 He decides to do what lots of people in American history have done under similar circumstances, become a lawyer.

01:17:04.000 Now in those days people didn't go to law school, they typically apprenticed in the office of somebody else.

01:17:09.000 So Jackson talked himself into an apprenticeship, he spent a couple of years learning the ropes of the legal trade, and then he took the equivalent of the bar exam at the age of about 19.

01:17:19.000 And he talked his way past the examiners, He said, fine, you can become a lawyer.

01:17:23.000 This was in North Carolina, and the standards for the practice of the law were fairly low.

01:17:27.000 Jackson decided at this point, though, that North Carolina was too bad.

01:17:31.000 Plus, he was also a war vet, so that gave him entree into a lot of stuff.

01:17:35.000 Yes and no.

01:17:36.000 In fact, you pretty much had to be a war veteran to have any respect in the eyes of your neighbors.

01:17:43.000 But because so many people were, it didn't give you any special edge.

01:17:47.000 One of the things Jackson realized, though, at the age of 1920 was that there were going to be more opportunities out West than there were in North Carolina.

01:17:56.000 And Jackson took advantage of what would become a standard practice in American history.

01:18:01.000 That is, for people who don't have money, for people who don't have family, for people who don't have education, the place to go is out West, where you will be judged not on your connections, not on your money, not on your name, but on what you can accomplish, With your own energy and with your own talent.

01:18:18.000 So Jackson headed out to Tennessee.

01:18:20.000 At that time Tennessee was the western district of North Carolina.

01:18:24.000 And he took an unpaid position as a solicitor.

01:18:28.000 Or he's basically the prosecuting attorney for the state of North Carolina.

01:18:33.000 I'll tell you what, stay there.

01:18:34.000 We've got to go to break, and we're talking to Professor Brands, who's written the powerful book, Andrew Jackson, and it's on store shelves right now.

01:18:43.000 I was very impressed with it.

01:18:45.000 Very fair.

01:18:47.000 But, I mean, just if you want to get real, it's Andrew Jackson.

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01:22:51.000 During the Civil War, we had Lincoln who wrote multiple letters and gave speeches we had Lincoln who wrote multiple letters and gave speeches saying, "If I could reunify the Union without freeing one slave, by God, I'd do it." It was not about slavery.

01:23:19.000 It was about controlling Western expansion. 0.68

01:23:20.000 It was about tariffs, which just a few years later after Jackson left office, in the 60s, 1860s, broke out.

01:23:28.000 And that almost happened with South Carolina whenever he was president.

01:23:31.000 We'll talk about that before our guest leaves us.

01:23:34.000 But it's just not an honest debate.

01:23:36.000 Oh, why?

01:23:36.000 You know, George Washington owns slaves.

01:23:38.000 Well, DynCorp owns them right now and ships them out of Europe and nobody seems to care. 0.57

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01:23:45.000 You know, the point is, this was a different time, a different world.

01:23:48.000 There's slavery going on right now in Asia, slavery going on right now in Africa.

01:23:51.000 Why don't the people who bash Andrew Jackson talk about that?

01:23:55.000 Why don't these Ford Foundation professors that just hate America and are paid to do it, why don't they talk about that? 0.98

01:24:00.000 It's hypocritical, it's a fraud. 0.94

01:24:02.000 You have to look at the time you are in. 0.96

01:24:03.000 You know, we don't talk about Julius Caesar and go, he was a good guy or he was a bad guy because he owned slaves.

01:24:09.000 We say he was a bad guy because he was a dictator.

01:24:12.000 Because he was corrupt over the money power, something that Andrew Jackson did the opposite on.

01:24:16.000 Something I wish your book would have focused more on, Professor, was of course how he beat twice the big British banking powers that were trying to put in their own central bank here in the United States.

01:24:27.000 But let's go back just a few minutes here, or back a few years.

01:24:32.000 Sure.

01:24:32.000 Well, one of the things that Jackson discovers when he gets out in Tennessee is that if people are going to make their fortune in Tennessee, they're going to make it in land.

01:24:40.000 But this story is so long, the seven duels, all of it.

01:24:45.000 Please continue.

01:24:46.000 Sure.

01:24:46.000 Well, one of the things that Jackson discovers when he gets out in Tennessee is that if people are going to make their fortune in Tennessee, they're going to make it in land.

01:24:55.000 In fact, from the very beginning, almost until the present, buying land, investing in land, watching land grow in value has been the great American pastime.

01:25:05.000 Jackson began acquiring title to land in Tennessee.

01:25:09.000 Now at the time, land in Tennessee around Nashville, where he lived, wasn't worth very much at all.

01:25:14.000 Often, in fact, land was much more plentiful than cash was.

01:25:18.000 And so Jackson would have to take his fees as a lawyer, often in land.

01:25:22.000 And in fact, people spoke of land in terms of 640, a square mile, or a half section.

01:25:30.000 Um, as almost units of currency.

01:25:32.000 So Jackson often found himself holding title to tens of thousands of acres of land.

01:25:38.000 Well, there's a term, land rich, money poor.

01:25:40.000 Well, that's exactly the situation in Tennessee.

01:25:43.000 But Jackson realized that if he could hold on to the land, eventually he would acquire a fortune because more and more people were coming out to Tennessee and as they did, the land would increase in value.

01:25:53.000 But acquiring the land put Jackson and everybody else in Tennessee in conflict with the Indian of the area.

01:25:59.000 At this time, Indians were still in control of much of what is now the American Southeast, then was the Southwest.

01:26:06.000 In fact, Tennessee and the region was part of the original, what's called the Southwest Territory.

01:26:12.000 Anyhow, And so Jackson and the Tennesseans were in constant conflict with the Indians.

01:26:17.000 And it was, in certain respects, a philosophical difference.

01:26:21.000 Because the Tennesseans, the Americans, the farmers, looked at the Indians and said, you've got way more land than you need.

01:26:29.000 If you guys would take up farming, if you would live the way we do, then we could all have land here.

01:26:34.000 Now the Indians naturally took the position, we were here first, this is our land, what in the world are you doing here?

01:26:40.000 It led to Incessant conflict.

01:26:43.000 In fact, during the early years, there were Indian raids, there were settler reprisals.

01:26:47.000 This went on and on and on.

01:26:49.000 Yeah, Hollywood now just shows the natives being loving and good and getting killed, but in truth, it was slaughter on both sides. 0.88

01:26:56.000 Well, and as a matter of fact, one thing that's worth bearing in mind is that in every, almost without exception, In every contest, in every war campaign between Americans and Indians, it was never just Americans and Indians.

01:27:10.000 It was Americans and their Indian allies against other Indians. 0.90

01:27:14.000 Well, in fact, in George Washington's earliest days, it's the Indian Chiefs always coming to him when he's the head of the Virginia Blues and saying, hey, come fight our enemies for us.

01:27:26.000 Or the French using the Indians.

01:27:26.000 Right.

01:27:28.000 I mean, it's the same story.

01:27:29.000 That was precisely it.

01:27:30.000 Anyway, Jackson fairly early on discovered that the most important position, the most prestigious position in Tennessee was not prosecutor, was not judge, was not even governor, but was general of the militia.

01:27:45.000 Because the militia were the protectors, the forerunners of the National Guard.

01:27:50.000 These were the protectors of the community.

01:27:53.000 If a judge screwed up, it meant some legal decision was wrong.

01:27:56.000 If a governor screwed up, the budget was out of bounds.

01:27:58.000 But if the general of militia screwed up, the entire community was in danger.

01:28:04.000 Well, absolutely.

01:28:05.000 Stay there until he becomes the head of the militia and there's all these big political wranglings and people shooting him and all of this.

01:28:14.000 We'll talk about it when we get back and then get into his confrontation with the British troops.

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01:31:48.000 You know, it's hard in 45 minutes of air time to talk about the life of a giant.

01:31:56.000 You know, it's hard in 45 minutes of airtime to talk about the life of a giant.

01:32:09.000 And again, imagine a Hollywood movie where the individual is, before he's even born, his father dies, They live out on the edge of the wilderness in the wilds of South Carolina.

01:32:26.000 He, his mother, and his two brothers survive living with relatives.

01:32:31.000 Then in the war, his two brothers die.

01:32:33.000 He's in a concentration camp.

01:32:36.000 They slash him across the head and hand with a saber because he basically won't lick their He then goes and becomes a lawyer, he becomes a prosecutor, a judge, then a militia commander, then he's in all these countless battles with famous people like David Crockett and Sam Houston who were, of course, seminal towering individuals in Texas.

01:32:57.000 Texas history, beating Lord Wellington's troops who hadn't been beaten in India, fighting eight times their numbers, and had beaten Napoleon, and had beaten him in Spain as well, not just in Waterloo.

01:33:09.000 So all of this, and then going to be a president, and getting his way, and fighting the money powers, as he called them, and on his deathbed saying, I killed the bank, I beat the bank.

01:33:22.000 That's all.

01:33:23.000 I mean, he really is a secret president now.

01:33:26.000 Some people know who Andrew Jackson is, but most don't.

01:33:28.000 And if they do, they have a bad opinion of him.

01:33:30.000 When in truth, he did at least believe he was doing it for the people.

01:33:35.000 Going back to our guest, H.W.

01:33:37.000 Brands.

01:33:38.000 history professor here at the University of Texas.

01:33:41.000 The book, Andrew Jackson, His Life in Times, which brings to life just an amazing historical individual, Andrew Jackson.

01:33:48.000 Give us your website, Mr. Brands, and tell us how we can get Andrew Jackson.

01:33:53.000 Well, the website's real easy, hwbrands.com.

01:33:56.000 There's no punctuation in there, no dots, just HWBrands.com.

01:34:00.000 HWBrands.com, brands, B-R-A-N-D-S.com, and I've seen it all over different bookstores that I traffic.

01:34:08.000 Oh yeah, the books are in all the bookstores.

01:34:09.000 It's been doing very well, I'm pleased to say.

01:34:12.000 Well, yeah, and I'm pleased to say some of these hit pieces aren't doing well.

01:34:16.000 People don't want to read these little hit pieces, do they?

01:34:19.000 Well, they have a relatively short shelf life.

01:34:21.000 And when I wrote this book, I didn't set out to write it either pro-Jackson or anti-Jackson.

01:34:27.000 I just wanted to figure out No, I like pure history books.

01:34:35.000 I don't like sappy worship sessions.

01:34:37.000 I mean, your book just really shows both sides.

01:34:40.000 And then just by showing the information, you really get a good view.

01:34:44.000 Why didn't you spend more time on, frankly, on his two presidencies?

01:34:48.000 I mean, you spent some on the Texas question.

01:34:50.000 Not a lot of time on the British with assassins sneaking around, or people firing pistols at misfire, or individuals lobbying him to let the banking power in.

01:35:02.000 He was most proud of that when he died.

01:35:03.000 I thought that was the only flaw in your book.

01:35:06.000 Well, I'll tell you.

01:35:07.000 With a life like Jackson's, in certain respects, the presidency was the least exciting eight years of his life.

01:35:16.000 The rest of his life was civil.

01:35:18.000 There are other presidents where that's really the heart of the story.

01:35:21.000 If you write about Lincoln, what makes Lincoln the man that he was, what makes him riveting is his experience as president during the Civil War.

01:35:30.000 If you're going to write about Franklin Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt had a rather ordinary, well it was privileged, but a rather ordinary existence before he became president.

01:35:39.000 Just an opium family, yeah. 1.00

01:35:42.000 But Jackson's Years before he became president, we're so filled with experiences that are foreign to us today.

01:35:50.000 His duels, for example.

01:35:52.000 You know, Jackson fought in numerous duels, and I haven't even had a chance to talk about this part of Jackson's life, but one of the most appealing parts of Jackson's life was his relationship with his wife, Rachel.

01:36:03.000 It was Rachel's honor that provoked Jackson to fight duels.

01:36:07.000 Jackson is the only president ever to have killed a man in cold blood.

01:36:11.000 Now, for a lot of people today, that's really off-putting.

01:36:16.000 What do you want? 0.97

01:36:16.000 You want to murder his president? 0.97

01:36:17.000 Well, in fact, in Jackson's time, that was considered a mark in his favor.

01:36:22.000 After all, this man had insulted his wife, and it was a matter of honor.

01:36:28.000 And so Jackson insists on fighting a duel, which he killed the man.

01:36:31.000 And when we look at Jackson today, and there are certain aspects of Jackson's attitudes, his personality, his action, That we have a hard time warming up to.

01:36:42.000 Jackson's slave-holding, his attitude toward Indians, his militant expansionism.

01:36:48.000 Well, those were things that people of Jackson's generation valued.

01:36:52.000 The secret of Jackson's success was that he embodied, he represented the democratic will of the American people.

01:37:01.000 And if you're going to have a democracy, like we do, then you are going to choose that your great leaders are going to be people who... Well, he said over and over again, everything is the Republic.

01:37:12.000 And, I mean, just, you know, all the stories of him going against his own vice president, and all of it.

01:37:17.000 Let's get into those famous Indian battles.

01:37:20.000 that he had with the aboriginal population, and try to condense it down.

01:37:24.000 And then I want to spend some time with how over and over again he would really hit the nail on the head about threats.

01:37:29.000 And then what he did in New Orleans, strangely enough, one of the only U.S. cities to go under martial law, just went under martial law again.

01:37:37.000 And what happened with Lord Wellington's troops, and then what happened with the presidency?

01:37:42.000 Well, the fundamental thing to remember about Jackson's entire life was that from the time Jackson was born until he died, the United States, the existence of the United States, the independence of the United States was constantly under threat.

01:37:54.000 It's easy for us to forget that.

01:37:56.000 After all, we've been living when, for the last hundred years, the United States has been the most powerful country in the world.

01:38:02.000 It wasn't so during Jackson's life.

01:38:04.000 In fact, Jackson experienced a constant threat from external enemies, the British, the French, uh... indian internal threat from secession so to understand jackson's accomplishment you need to keep in mind that this experiment in self-government was one whose success could never be assured not from the time jackson was born until the time he died.

01:38:26.000 This was a life and death struggle for those who don't know and frankly i think hollywood has made such a big deal out of the west in the eighteen fifties sixties seventies eighties You know, even modern films like Open Range and things set in the 1890s, all of that is nothing compared to the swashbuckling, pirate-like warring and struggling and spying and double-dealing and

01:38:51.000 and the Spanish in Florida, all those things that went on in Texas, in Tennessee, in Georgia, in those areas, and you do capture a lot of that.

01:39:02.000 I mean, going into whole villages slaughtered and Indians with thousands of scalps and the Red Sticks and Baton Rouge, all of it. - Well, in fact, what Jackson waged was perhaps the first war on terror in American history.

01:39:19.000 Because Jackson's campaign against the Red Sticks, this was a militant band of Creek Indians in what's now Alabama, Mississippi, was precipitated by a massacre that the Red Sticks, the Creeks, inflicted upon settlers, about 250 settlers, a place called Fort Mims.

01:39:37.000 In the southern part of Mississippi Territory, as it then was.

01:39:39.000 And the entire purpose of this massacre was to terrorize the American settlement.

01:39:46.000 To drive the Americans away from the Southeast. 0.98

01:39:49.000 And by the way, there have been previous battles all over where major forces larger than Jackson's, even U.S.

01:39:55.000 government forces, were being beaten by the Indians.

01:39:57.000 Right.

01:39:58.000 And as a matter of fact, this was part of the most successful Indian alliance In the history of North America, it's one that was put together by Tecumseh, the great Shawnee chief.

01:40:08.000 And it had for its devout purpose, what can be described as nothing less than a race war. 0.83

01:40:14.000 This was going to be a war of Indians against whites. 0.99

01:40:16.000 And the whole point was to drive, first of all, to kill as many whites as possible, and to drive the rest out of the West, back to the Atlantic coast. 0.99

01:40:25.000 And this was something that Tecumseh worked for years to organize. 0.98

01:40:30.000 And the attack of the Red Sticks upon the Fort Mimps settlement was part of this.

01:40:35.000 The whole idea was to sow terror among the settlements.

01:40:38.000 Well, Jackson wasn't one to be terrified or terrorized.

01:40:42.000 And as commander of the Tennessee militia, he immediately took it upon himself to wage reprisals against the Red Sticks.

01:40:47.000 This was during the first part of the War of 1812.

01:40:51.000 To the extent that people know about the War of 1812 today, they remember it as a war between the United States and the British.

01:40:57.000 But in fact, it was a war between the United States and its Indian allies against Britain and Britain's Indian allies.

01:41:05.000 And the first part of the war, especially for Jackson, in the Southwest, was fighting Britain's Indian allies.

01:41:12.000 Jackson won a great victory at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend in 1814, and it was this that brought him to national attention.

01:41:19.000 So that President Madison and the Secretary of War decided they needed to bring Jackson from command of the Tennessee militia into a commanding position in the U.S.

01:41:31.000 Army.

01:41:31.000 So he was promoted sort of sideways from Major General of the Tennessee Militia.

01:41:36.000 And of course we're skipping over the stuff in the book about all the times that his superiors would give him orders that he thought were wrong and he'd disobey them and just, you know, duels or where he's walking through the street and somebody shoots him twice in the chest and he almost bleeds to death.

01:41:49.000 I mean, this guy was like a pin cushion of wounds.

01:41:52.000 In fact, he spent most of his life carrying several bullets around in his body.

01:41:56.000 And there's some reason to believe that the lead that leached out of those bullets had a deleterious effect on his health, although maybe not as much as some of the medicines he was used.

01:42:05.000 In those days, people thought nothing of drinking various sugars of lead and to dose themselves with various compounds of mercury.

01:42:15.000 So people were swimming in heavy metals in those days.

01:42:18.000 Hey, nowadays the news is saying it's nutritious.

01:42:20.000 I'm being sarcastic.

01:42:22.000 I've got this local newscast saying mercury in the vaccines is good.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, they would dose them.

01:42:26.000 Arsenic's a heavy metal.

01:42:27.000 People would take that.

01:42:28.000 And it would drive you actually kind of crazy.

01:42:31.000 Well, and one of the remarkable things about this is to imagine how tough these people must have been.

01:42:38.000 Because we have this notion today that somehow if your health isn't perfect, there's something wrong.

01:42:42.000 You ought to be able to take something and do something to fix it.

01:42:45.000 Well, in those days, people sort of expected that if you live long enough, you're going to come down with various diseases and ailments.

01:42:51.000 And they woke up every morning not thinking about, oh gosh, this isn't right or that isn't right.

01:42:55.000 They were just happy to be alive.

01:42:57.000 Well, anyway, Jackson survived through all of this, but he was often operating, well, he was always operating at less than optimum health, either from the bullets or from a recent duel that he'd fought, or he had chronic intestinal ailments for his entire life.

01:43:12.000 He was almost painfully thin, and there were times when he was basically existing on gin and coffee.

01:43:19.000 He seemed to agree with him.

01:43:20.000 The odd thing was that when he was on campaign, when he was out in the field, he often felt better and was able to operate more effectively.

01:43:26.000 But his wife's good cooking when put him in bed, yeah. 1.00

01:43:29.000 That was exactly it.

01:43:29.000 That's it.

01:43:30.000 The rich food at home.

01:43:32.000 He was also very worshipful of women.

01:43:33.000 He hated the high society of D.C.

01:43:39.000 where they were just constantly criticizing women who were wives of his cabinet, and so he didn't put up with that either.

01:43:46.000 Well, as a matter of fact, one of the real blunders, if you want to call it a blunder of his presidency, was his perhaps excessive loyalty to Peggy Eaton and her husband John Eaton.

01:43:57.000 This was a woman who was criticized for political and personal reasons, but Jackson was someone who could never bring himself to think ill of a woman.

01:44:08.000 And so he stuck by Peggy Eaton probably, well, longer than he should have as A lot of that comes from the image of his mother, because he never even met his father, who died before he was born.

01:44:18.000 His mother and his wife, Rachel.

01:44:20.000 Rachel actually was a political casualty of the campaign, the presidential campaign of 1828.

01:44:25.000 She got a heart attack because of all the criticisms just days before he was to be inaugurated, right?

01:44:30.000 Oh, that's exactly it.

01:44:31.000 In fact, we often think that politics today is low and dirty.

01:44:35.000 It's nothing like politics in the 1820s, when people did fight duels, when people died as a result of politics.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, there were fights on the House floor.

01:44:44.000 Let's go back.

01:44:44.000 So we have the War of 1812.

01:44:46.000 The British actually attack D.C.

01:44:50.000 They burn down the White House.

01:44:52.000 They're firing their cannons into the population.

01:44:56.000 Meanwhile, they send the General.

01:44:58.000 He's now General Jackson.

01:45:01.000 Quickly, we've got about four minutes before the break, Professor, and we're so honored to have you.

01:45:04.000 Go through how he defeated an army that had never been defeated.

01:45:08.000 Okay, the thing to remember is how important the Battle of New Orleans was.

01:45:11.000 The British had a strategy whereby they would defeat Jackson at New Orleans, they would march up the Mississippi River, their southern army marching north would combine with an army from Canada marching south, and they would literally split the United States in two along the line of the Mississippi River.

01:45:27.000 They would either give Louisiana back to Spain, Britain's ally, or give it to the Indians and set it up as a an independent country that would act as a buffer state, preventing the United States from expanding. 0.79

01:45:40.000 So Jackson's job was to prevent the British from getting past New Orleans. 0.90

01:45:46.000 If Jackson had failed, the United States would have been split into, and quite possibly, American democracy.

01:45:53.000 The whole idea of American self-government would have been at risk.

01:45:56.000 Whether the United States could have survived that defeat is an open question.

01:45:59.000 No one, no one expected that Jackson could win.

01:46:02.000 The British had tromped all over American forces through most of the war, and now they were being reinforced by these fresh troops from Europe.

01:46:10.000 Wellington's Invincibles, as they were called, they had never been defeated, and they were going to take on Jackson at New Orleans.

01:46:16.000 They greatly outnumbered Jackson.

01:46:17.000 Jackson had the most rag-tag army, perhaps, in American history.

01:46:21.000 It was made up of former black slaves, it was made up of Indians, it was made up of, yeah.

01:46:25.000 It consisted of Tennessee volunteers and some Army regulars.

01:46:28.000 It consisted of members of various Indian tribes.

01:46:31.000 of slaves, of free African-Americans. 0.56

01:46:33.000 There were 800 Haitians there, and I still haven't figured out exactly what the Haitians were doing there.

01:46:37.000 But nonetheless, there were pirates under Jean Lafitte.

01:46:40.000 And the only thing that welded them together, held them together, was Jackson's will.

01:46:45.000 Jackson, perhaps, had the most powerful will of any one of his generation.

01:46:49.000 Jackson believed that he could win because he must win.

01:46:54.000 And he persuaded, he cajoled, he It forced everybody at New Orleans to fight.

01:47:00.000 There were a lot of French and Spanish nationals in New Orleans.

01:47:03.000 They didn't want to fight at all.

01:47:04.000 They would have been quite happy if New Orleans and Louisiana had reverted to French or Spanish control.

01:47:09.000 But Jackson made them fight, made them believe that they could win.

01:47:13.000 And in this absolutely astonishing battle, on the morning of January 8, 1815, Jackson won this tremendous victory.

01:47:20.000 2,000 British soldiers were killed, captured, or wounded against less than two dozen on the American side.

01:47:27.000 When the rest of the United States heard of Jackson's victory, they couldn't believe it.

01:47:31.000 It was as though God had come down and delivered the United States from this grave danger using Andrew Jackson as his agent.

01:47:39.000 And from then until the rest of his life, Andrew Jackson was known simply as the hero.

01:47:44.000 Immediately, people began talking about Andrew Jackson for president.

01:47:49.000 It was one of the most astonishing moments in American history.

01:47:52.000 Yeah, to be specific, they were landing a bunch of the Invincibles and They got him bottlenecked there and then Jackson was able to get there and they built some works against him and that's quite a battle right there with the British troops climbing up over and all.

01:48:05.000 It was like an Alamo, really.

01:48:07.000 Well, in fact, the Battle of New Orleans actually took place over a couple of weeks.

01:48:11.000 It started with an artillery battle in which Jackson's pirates, the pirates from Barataria under Jean Lafitte, used their skill that they had acquired seizing vessels on the high seas, to inflict, well, the initial battle, the artillery battle, was a standoff.

01:48:28.000 Meanwhile, Jackson's forces built ramparts.

01:48:30.000 And, well, I was going to say you can see these on the battlefield at Chalmette outside of New Orleans, except they all got washed away in the recent hurricane.

01:48:37.000 So you can't see them anymore.

01:48:40.000 But nonetheless, I guess they'll be rebuilt.

01:48:41.000 But anyway, the British operated on the principle that they would march across this open field and essentially strike terror into the hearts of those people that were defending.

01:48:53.000 And that had worked with the French, that had worked with people in India, but it didn't work here.

01:48:57.000 No, it didn't, because Jackson, well, in fact, the defenders decided that they probably had more to fear from Jackson than they had from the British.

01:49:05.000 And Jackson coolly told them to, he really did say the equivalent of, don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes.

01:49:12.000 They had to let them get close enough so that the musket fire would have an effect.

01:49:16.000 And then when it did, the muskets in conjunction with the cannons that were lowered down to where they would just blast across at head height, mowed enormous, appalling swaths through the British forces.

01:49:28.000 And within the space of an hour, the British Army was decimated.

01:49:31.000 They tried what, four different attacks though?

01:49:33.000 They kept sending wave after wave?

01:49:35.000 Wave after wave after wave, and as often as they came, they were decimated by Jackson's fire.

01:49:41.000 Amazing story.

01:49:42.000 And then there's the whole presidency.

01:49:44.000 We've got one more segment with you, Professor.

01:49:45.000 I want to get you back up sometime for a part two on this and talk about your book about Texas as well, which I had the pleasure of reading it.

01:49:52.000 We'll be right back.

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01:53:05.000 We've been talking about the book.

01:53:08.000 Andrew Jackson is live in Times.

01:53:09.000 Information at Infowars.com.

01:53:11.000 You can link through over to the author's website.

01:53:14.000 And again, it's a very even-handed... I mean, you can get into the whole books that have been written just with his quotes all about fighting the bankers and fighting the centralization by all the scallywags and the rest of it. 0.89

01:53:29.000 It is so important that we take this history that's been robbed from us and just simply be honest about it.

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01:53:45.000 And there were presidents like that back in those days as well, but when you get down to somebody like Andrew Jackson, I mean, imagine, why hasn't Hollywood made a movie?

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01:54:06.000 Both his brothers dying in the war, one dying in the concentration camp.

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01:55:49.000 Professor Brands, it's really been great.

01:55:51.000 We've got about two and a half minutes left here.

01:55:54.000 Anything else you'd like to add that you think we haven't filled in concerning Andrew Jackson?

01:55:58.000 Well, the one thing to remember about Andrew Jackson is that...

01:56:01.000 Almost single-handedly, he held the Union together.

01:56:04.000 He did so first militarily at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815.

01:56:07.000 He did it again in 1833, went to South Carolina, threatened to secede from the Union.

01:56:12.000 It's often forgotten because it was a secession that didn't happen.

01:56:15.000 But the reason it didn't happen was that Andrew Jackson was President of the United States at the time.

01:56:20.000 South Carolinians were upset about a tariff tax bill that they thought was too high. 0.97

01:56:24.000 And he told their leaders, I'm going to come down there and kill you. 0.98

01:56:27.000 Well, that's exactly what he said. 0.97

01:56:29.000 When they threatened to secede, Jackson let them know that if they seceded, it meant war.

01:56:34.000 And he laid preparations to march at the head of an army of 200,000 men down into South Carolina.

01:56:40.000 And when the South Carolinians got wind of this, they realized, well, they finally knew who they were tangling with, and they decided to rescind their order of secession and to reconsider.

01:56:51.000 Now, it's worth thinking about what would have happened had somebody like Andrew Jackson been president in 1860.

01:56:58.000 When the Civil War occurred, when secession occurred, it occurred largely because the South didn't think the North would fight.

01:57:03.000 It was the same thing all over again.

01:57:05.000 And Andrew Jackson, of course, then did less in the tariff, though.

01:57:10.000 He did make a compromise with them.

01:57:11.000 Well, he did.

01:57:12.000 He was smart enough to know that.

01:57:13.000 He was going to have to give them some precedence.

01:57:15.000 Tell you what, Professor, this is an important point.

01:57:17.000 Do five more minutes with us.

01:57:18.000 We've got a one-minute break.

01:57:20.000 We've got a little five-minute segment coming up.

01:57:22.000 Do five more minutes with us, okay?

01:57:24.000 Okay, you've got to go back to your classes.

01:57:24.000 Alex, I've got to run.

01:57:26.000 Listen, I really appreciate you joining us.

01:57:28.000 Okay, thank you.

01:57:28.000 You bet.

01:57:29.000 Alright, we've got Paul Watson coming up.

01:57:29.000 Bye-bye.

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01:57:41.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:55.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Another amazing thing about Andrew Jackson, who we're talking to an award-winning author and history professor in the last hour about, was that he didn't like the crowds.

01:58:19.000 He didn't like the adulation.

01:58:21.000 He liked his little farm.

01:58:23.000 And, you know, the book, I said, was balanced.

01:58:25.000 It doesn't get into his fighting with a fellow reserve in the same crowd.

01:58:28.000 It doesn't get into him trying to basically bring them down and holding them off.

01:58:35.000 And, of course, he was against a civil war because he knew the British were agitating the entire thing.

01:58:44.000 I'm not saying the North was good or what the North did was good.

01:58:49.000 It was all bad.

01:58:50.000 It's just that the British really were manipulating all of that. 1.00

01:58:54.000 And now we have a chance to talk to one of them.

01:58:56.000 One of the great evils, as Andrew Jackson said.

01:59:00.000 Ultimate Boogeyman Creatures.

01:59:01.000 We actually have one with us.

01:59:04.000 Lord Watson of Canterbury.

01:59:07.000 Watson, good to have you with us.

01:59:09.000 Good to be back, Alex.

01:59:10.000 I'm sorry to have to tease you.

01:59:11.000 It's just fun to do.

01:59:12.000 Well, you know, I'm not really sorry.

01:59:16.000 You can make fun of me, though.

01:59:17.000 Go ahead if you want to.

01:59:17.000 Go ahead.

01:59:19.000 Well, you can talk bad about the government, boys.

01:59:24.000 That's right.

01:59:25.000 Don't you talk about George Bush, who I associate with my daddy.

01:59:28.000 Oh man, he was my daddy before he was my daddy's daddy, or whatever your brother said.

01:59:32.000 That was a great little piece we did. 0.87

01:59:35.000 Alright, I'll quit screwing around.

01:59:36.000 You know, there's so much serious news, so many serious things happening we need to talk about.

01:59:41.000 Remember two years ago, Paul, I talked about how the New York Times had an article about how your cable and your computer, you'd be able to dial in to all the surveillance cameras and watch everybody and even get paid to do it?

01:59:52.000 Yeah.

01:59:53.000 Well, now in England that's going to start on your major cable systems with the city, but it's going to be interactive, but you've got to pay to be part of it.

02:00:01.000 That's right.

02:00:03.000 Launched in a borough of London today.

02:00:06.000 Um, it's basically what they're doing is people pay £3.50 which is about $5 or more a month to watch the CCTV cameras and they're encouraged to report suspicious behaviour.

02:00:21.000 And it's kind of like something called the Delphi Technique which they use to make people believe they're involved in the very programmes that oppress them.

02:00:31.000 Make them, you know, think they're part of the power structure.

02:00:34.000 To boil it down, it's like paying lip service.

02:00:36.000 We want to hear what everyone has to say at the meeting and then go, okay, we heard what you said.

02:00:40.000 You said you want the slavery.

02:00:42.000 And it doesn't matter if you said you didn't want it.

02:00:44.000 They just go, well, we heard what you had to say.

02:00:46.000 Exactly.

02:00:48.000 It ties into the fact that although some of the latest CCTV systems automatically detect, you know, loitering and suspicious behavior, they don't even need anyone to watch them.

02:01:01.000 Um, the non-mechanized aspect of it does need somebody to watch them.

02:01:05.000 And obviously you can't have somebody watching every camera at every hour of the day.

02:01:10.000 It's like when you talk about Echelon.

02:01:12.000 It's like coming home to having three million answer phone messages.

02:01:16.000 You just can't sift through them all.

02:01:17.000 So, although everything's recorded, not everything's analyzed.

02:01:22.000 Um, but in the case of Britain, it comes at the same time as the British government and the Metropolitan Police.

02:01:29.000 Oh, do me a favor, I forgot to do that.

02:01:30.000 radio campaign which encourages people to report their neighbors and report suspicious activity and if you've heard the radio ad which we had on the website it's in the news and focus section it kind of plays into the trappings of the middle class oh do me a favor I forgot to do that will you instant message that to the network yeah it says things like you know you enjoy your nice lifestyle you enjoy seeing your friends Well, if you want to, you better stop the terrorists.

02:01:59.000 Did they cash a check wrong?

02:02:00.000 And then, of course, terror is all crime, because there's not going to be any real terror, folks.

02:02:04.000 Well, look, they give examples, potential signs of terrorism, you know, judging on the message being sent out by these posters.

02:02:12.000 Living in a house or an apartment is a potential sign of terrorism, according to them.

02:02:17.000 As opposed to say, terrorists need places to live.

02:02:20.000 Are you suspicious of your tenants and neighbors?

02:02:23.000 So basically, we've got to teach you how to be suspicious of everyone.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, and if you live in a house, then you may be a terrorist.

02:02:30.000 Aha, yes.

02:02:31.000 If you have a car, you may be a terrorist. 0.98

02:02:34.000 Stay there, Paul.

02:02:35.000 I want to go over all this in detail, and instant message that over to the little pollywogs at the network, and we'll get it out to people. 1.00

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02:06:06.000 We have our great friend from Northern England joining us, where they're known for standing up against Tyranny as well.

02:06:16.000 Yes, that's the MO I get from the folks over in Europe. 0.73

02:06:19.000 Those evil, evil folks from northern England. 1.00

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02:06:26.000 And he is on with us right now.

02:06:29.000 And here's the news, folks.

02:06:31.000 I talked about this in the first hour.

02:06:32.000 We'll talk about it more today. 0.99

02:06:33.000 Bush Advisors says the President has legal power to torture children and crush their testicles. 0.97

02:06:37.000 And he was asked about it at a big University of Chicago symposium, arguing with a Notre Dame professor, and he said it's good, and they'll do it, and they can also commit genocide. 0.87

02:06:46.000 So, you know, it's just unbelievable to hear this out of them, and this is one of the other advisors who was in the same department there as White House counsels, as our current Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, who said that they were above the law, And I also have this news about how GM food killing mammal babies, that is six times a higher level in infant mortality with those that have eaten genetically modified crops.

02:07:14.000 Folks, this stuff is actual poison.

02:07:17.000 You're worried about smoking two packs of cigarettes a day?

02:07:19.000 Well, I would be if you do, but that's a lot less dangerous.

02:07:22.000 Drinking Jack Daniels every day, ten shots of it, and smoking two packs of cigarettes is less dangerous from the studies I've seen.

02:07:31.000 I mean, it'll kill you faster to be eating this stuff.

02:07:34.000 And are they stopping?

02:07:35.000 No, it's just going into everything.

02:07:37.000 Paul, my head is starting to spin.

02:07:38.000 I mean, is your head starting to spin?

02:07:40.000 Are they just not... I mean, that's more radical than I thought.

02:07:44.000 They go in front of a supposium and go, yeah, we can crush children's testicles. 0.99

02:07:47.000 I mean, where do they come up? 0.99

02:07:49.000 I mean, what is wrong with these people?

02:07:50.000 What is their major malfunction?

02:07:53.000 Well, they've given themselves carte blanche to do anything they like, you know, under the auspices of the noble lie that the ends justify the means, and they don't.

02:08:04.000 It's like the mercury in vaccines.

02:08:07.000 There was a comedy skit on a Canadian politics comedy show where they were asking the people who'd just taken the flu shot if they knew that the vaccine had mercury in it.

02:08:18.000 None of them did, and they all said, You know, I've just got blind faith in government.

02:08:23.000 I think they're here to protect me and I trust them.

02:08:26.000 You know, the same kind of government that... Now, was it one of those comedy skits where the comedy guy goes out and interviews, you know, real people?

02:08:33.000 Yeah.

02:08:35.000 Have I missed that video?

02:08:37.000 It was on Perspective last week.

02:08:40.000 Oh, man, you've got to instant message that to the network, too.

02:08:43.000 We'll air that in a minute.

02:08:44.000 Now, I know I'm digressing.

02:08:45.000 I want to go back to this in a minute with the GM Foods and whatever else you want to talk about and the Shickas saying, you know, that they can torture small children. 1.00

02:08:52.000 I mean, this is how sick it is, folks.

02:08:54.000 And then, of course, they have all the TV shows that say the same thing.

02:08:56.000 Mass conditioning, a unified front of pure wickedness.

02:09:00.000 I mean, this is wickedness.

02:09:01.000 But going back to What's happening in London now, and even the BBC says it's Stasi Big Brother.

02:09:08.000 Even the Register, we can all be Big Brother now.

02:09:12.000 And it says you've read the book and seen the film, now you can oppress the proletariat. 0.94

02:09:16.000 Yes, it's true, you can take part in a groundbreaking social engineering project without leaving the comfort and safety of your own ivory tower, which we call rubbish, using three same-and-fear architect who kiddied out the office of the Deputy Prime Minister.

02:09:28.000 And it goes on to say that now the cable, and this is just starting in one area, it's going to be nationwide.

02:09:34.000 Again, they've said this here, but here they're going to make us all watch each other.

02:09:38.000 That was in the New York Times.

02:09:39.000 I mean, Paul, this isn't coming.

02:09:41.000 It's here, brother.

02:09:42.000 It's here now.

02:09:44.000 And to look at these posters that the MAC police put out shows you how brazen they are in announcing it.

02:09:51.000 They've got a poster which shows a receipt for a credit card refund.

02:09:54.000 They say that is a potential sign of terrorism.

02:09:57.000 So, you know, about 10 million British citizens became terrorist suspects on Boxing Day when they got refunds for unwanted Christmas gifts.

02:10:06.000 And they must know that, you know, if there's any real terrorists out there, ones that aren't on the payroll of MI6, like our friend ASWAT, the London bombing mastermind, That, you know, something like this would only create more noise in the system, allowing any real terrorist to evade any detection, and they must know that.

02:10:25.000 So, in effect, they're creating the terrorist cadre that don't exist.

02:10:29.000 By the way, I've had on about... Exactly, I've had on about protecting the terrorists, you're right, who are their officers.

02:10:35.000 I have had on what four high-level CIA officers in the last month, they've all said, these local tattletale squads, like they're doing in Knoxville, Tennessee and London, England, Are the opposite of what will keep us safe if the terror threat was real.

02:10:48.000 I mean, that's 101 what you just said, Paul. 0.99

02:10:51.000 But you can't tell that to these cops and the general public, who frankly are as dumb as dirt. 1.00

02:10:56.000 Well, yeah, and they get power out of it. 1.00

02:10:58.000 They get to exercise their little Hitler ego trips when they search your bags and stuff like that. 0.84

02:11:03.000 And you read this, it says, crime is terror.

02:11:06.000 There's not going to be any real terrorists with millions of people watching CCTs.

02:11:10.000 No, TVs.

02:11:12.000 No, I mean, this is about total control.

02:11:13.000 And by the way, they passed the new law there where if you drop some trash, you can go to jail and be charged thousands of pounds.

02:11:20.000 And guess what?

02:11:21.000 Blair's saying, if you do this now, they'll take your house.

02:11:24.000 Yes, it's in the news today, now for petty crimes that government will take your house. 0.96

02:11:29.000 Yeah, they've got people who frog march you to a cash machine if you drop a piece of gum, if you don't immediately pay the fine.

02:11:36.000 You get arrested, and now the law's coming in Britain where any offense whatsoever is immediately arrestable.

02:11:42.000 And again, we heard this five years ago when Blair said, I want to get rid of juries, they're bad!

02:11:47.000 And now they're starting to do it!

02:11:50.000 And with this Surveillance Grid and the Stasi campaign, they're kind of shifting the surveillance grid into areas where it's not mechanized, so it becomes self-regulating.

02:12:02.000 Because if you pound it into people that everything they're doing is constantly being monitored, which is obviously part of the motivation behind this NSA spying scandal.

02:12:12.000 It's called the Panopticon.

02:12:13.000 It's called self-censorship, chilling effect.

02:12:16.000 Yeah, so I've pounded it into people.

02:12:18.000 They're trying to make people regulate their own behaviour and have, you know, absolutely no confidence to exercise their innate freedoms.

02:12:25.000 For example, I get emails from people asking if they subscribe to PrisonPlanet.tv, will they get put on a list?

02:12:33.000 Will they get a visit from Homeland Security?

02:12:36.000 That's how deep it penetrates.

02:12:38.000 I know a lot of people who say, you're making this stuff up, but I don't want to talk to you because I'll be put on a list.

02:12:44.000 And I go, now which is it?

02:12:45.000 We're not living under Big Brother, but you're afraid of being put on a list.

02:12:48.000 Folks, who cares if you're on a list?

02:12:51.000 Let me tell you the truth.

02:12:52.000 I have congressmen on, I have Bush, Reagan, Bush Sr., major former officials on, saying the government's terrorist, it's carrying out terror attacks, and it's going to kill us.

02:13:03.000 Okay, I mean, look, they're people who weren't saying this a few years ago.

02:13:06.000 It's because they see what we see.

02:13:08.000 Okay, we're the good guys.

02:13:10.000 If we roll over now, then you need to be afraid.

02:13:13.000 This whole thing is to abuse us all.

02:13:15.000 If you serve them, they'll abuse you.

02:13:17.000 It's actually when you fight them, it's like a lion leaving an elephant alone.

02:13:21.000 It goes after a kit-kit, or it goes after a gazelle.

02:13:25.000 It goes after some little bug-eyed creature that's defenseless. 1.00

02:13:28.000 It doesn't go after some Elephant! 0.99

02:13:31.000 So stop acting like a bunch of little cowardly jellyfish!

02:13:35.000 And no, folks, PrisonPlanet.tv, now I've been offered money before, but it's always, you know, like ten years ago, give money to Pat Buchanan, and now I'm on every mailing list you can imagine of conservative groups. 0.95

02:13:45.000 No, we don't sell names, we don't do anything with it.

02:13:48.000 In fact, after a year, it gets shredded.

02:13:50.000 So no, we do not sell names to answer that question.

02:13:53.000 But already, dum-dums, and I don't mean to be mean about it, but come on, folks. 1.00

02:13:57.000 I'm talking to those particular people.

02:14:00.000 Already on the net with cookies, everything's being tracked to begin with.

02:14:03.000 That's the whole point.

02:14:05.000 That's the whole point.

02:14:06.000 Paul, go ahead.

02:14:06.000 It's out of control.

02:14:07.000 Yeah, and for the elite, you know, that self-regulatory little brother syndrome, as opposed to big brother watching everybody, it's going to be more successful for them because A dictatorship by fiat rather than force is something that's far easier for them to package and sell to the wider population.

02:14:26.000 Well, here's an example.

02:14:28.000 There's a big article out today, actually several, about that Rupert Murdoch bought Myspace with his 36 million members.

02:14:34.000 And you could go on there and say whatever you wanted and do whatever you wanted to share information, and so the pig demon, the person who puts out the dirtiest, rottenest TV to corrupt everybody, who then you call Christian conservative, Rupert's slimeball maggot-head Murdoch, phony conservative propagandist, worms his way over and buys MySpace, and now it's not just hundreds of things, thousands of things. 0.65

02:14:58.000 I mean, I told you, it's easy.

02:15:00.000 News Corp admits, that's who owns Fox, News Corp admits that you post anything about their competitors, anything else, it's automatically deleted.

02:15:10.000 You see, there's your free speech.

02:15:12.000 And this is why there's a push for internet too.

02:15:15.000 Because in the sphere of the internet, they have got those mechanized systems where, for example, Microsoft have keyword logging for all emails, which led them to alert the Chinese government to shut down this blogger.

02:15:29.000 Which they've done on several other occasions in the past.

02:15:33.000 And what were these bloggers doing?

02:15:34.000 Criticizing how their neighbor was forced to have an abortion.

02:15:38.000 Oh, look, we better shut them down!

02:15:40.000 Yeah, and Declan McCullers got an article out today.

02:15:45.000 Annoying someone on the internet is a federal crime.

02:15:48.000 That's right, CNN News, mainstream.

02:15:50.000 Tell us about that, Paul.

02:15:53.000 Yeah, it was passed by Pork Barrel, as they always do, in a different bill.

02:15:59.000 If you annoy someone on the internet, the language is so vague and ambiguous it could be anything, then it's two years in jail and a fine, which is obviously going to target political email lists as nuisances or any kind of boycott or lobbying.

02:16:13.000 Now again, that's total First Amendment.

02:16:14.000 No one believed that the McCain-Feingold bill that says six weeks before an election, I can't have gun owners of America on, or Nature Conservancy, but now Bush Yeah, and then stuff like, you know, can spam law.

02:16:35.000 I still, I get more amount of spam now since they passed that law.

02:16:38.000 Who does it target?

02:16:39.000 It's always people who send out mass emails and, you know, those people who get accused of paper terrorism and stuff like that by trying to lobby people in government or It's all going to be selectively enforced and then when the British government or the US government sells your data to known criminals on purpose, nobody gets in trouble.

02:16:59.000 Well yeah, they actually said that they're going to fund the British ID card by selling all your personal information to big companies so they could spam you with offers of credit cards, etc.

02:17:10.000 So they brought it in under the guise of protecting your information and identity theft and the very first step that they take to fund it does exactly that.

02:17:20.000 Well, we got the audio clip, the radio ad in England about how to keep safe.

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02:21:44.000 I want to get into Larry Silverstein.

02:21:56.000 Paul, thanks to a listener, Doug, the fact that they covertly put out a little press report through the State Department of all places to kind of explain away why they said that they blew up Building 7.

02:22:07.000 Thank you.

02:22:08.000 So that's coming up.

02:22:09.000 But Paul, let's roll this ad now.

02:22:11.000 Set up this radio ad for us.

02:22:13.000 This goes along with the billboard ads that say, safe under the watchful eyes, with like a big brother all-seeing eye looking down on the buses.

02:22:20.000 And then a year later, the buses and the trains get bombed.

02:22:23.000 So, just kind of an in-your-face situation.

02:22:25.000 Now they have these new ads, TV, radio, print, report your neighbors, watch for everything, everything's terrorism.

02:22:33.000 Set up this ad we're about to hear, Paul.

02:22:35.000 Well yeah, before the bombings they had a stardew campaign on trains saying you should report suspicious behaviour on trains.

02:22:43.000 And now last week Metropolitan Police and the government launched this campaign which encourages reporting your neighbours, reporting people who own a vehicle or get a credit card refund.

02:22:54.000 So it's basically anything that is potential terrorism.

02:22:57.000 And they're just training us, then in two years it'll be report anybody who doesn't submit to the government, who doesn't like what we're doing and then they just disappear.

02:23:05.000 Yep, that's the plan.

02:23:08.000 Let's go ahead and roll this loving ad.

02:23:10.000 Here it is.

02:23:11.000 You are someone who lives in London.

02:23:13.000 Someone who takes the tube, gets the bus, hails a cab.

02:23:16.000 You're someone who stands on the right, holds open doors, smiles at strangers.

02:23:19.000 You're someone with a partner, friends and family, mates and colleagues.

02:23:23.000 You are someone with hopes and fears, ambitions and dreams, a past and a future.

02:23:28.000 And you are someone who knows that terrorists won't succeed, as long as someone calls the police to report anything suspicious.

02:23:36.000 You are But if you see the tomb full of illegal aliens, don't worry about it. 1.00

02:23:44.000 Tony Blair's made secret deals to legalise all of them, like Georgie Porgie Pudding Pie.

02:23:49.000 working together for a safer London. - But if you see the tube for the Lego aliens, don't worry about it.

02:23:58.000 Tony Blair's made secret deals to legalize all of them, like Georgie Porgie Puddin' Pie. - That's right, he's been caught doing that with the Romanian government and others.

02:24:09.000 But it's, just listen to it.

02:24:12.000 It's anything.

02:24:13.000 How about breathing oxygen or eating food?

02:24:16.000 Well, you've got a life.

02:24:17.000 Listen, you've got a life and you're not going to have that life unless you start tattling on everyone.

02:24:21.000 It just creates this foggy fear and the men in black uniforms are going to save you.

02:24:25.000 Meanwhile, I'm out there bullhorning Parliament, totally legal, outlawed three days later, and they march over and try to physically start stopping me from speaking.

02:24:36.000 Yeah, but just imagine if people took this to heart.

02:24:40.000 The amount of noise it would create, where you'd have people phoning 999 for anything, and people who wanted to get revenge on somebody they didn't like.

02:24:48.000 But I'll tell you what this does.

02:24:50.000 But I'll tell you what this does.

02:24:51.000 It creates a chatter.

02:24:53.000 The thousands of anti-terror drills they've had create the subconscious perception that the terror threat is real.

02:24:58.000 They've got to do this.

02:25:00.000 Yeah, they've charged They've had 500 terrorist suspects detained in Britain.

02:25:06.000 They've only charged two of them, and that was on visa violation.

02:25:10.000 By the way, we found publications from the 80s.

02:25:13.000 It's admitted that they caught, this was big in the news when it happened, a Mossad agent with a team of six about to carry out bombings on buses and trains to blame it on the Muslims.

02:25:25.000 Nice little tidbit we found, Paul.

02:25:27.000 A little memory hole news we'd forgotten about.

02:25:30.000 Exactly.

02:25:32.000 Even not terrorism, anything that hate speech.

02:25:36.000 There was a lady in Cambridge, which is just north of London, who wrote a book opposing gay adoption.

02:25:44.000 She was doing a radio interview instead, very calmly, without threatening anybody.

02:25:49.000 We don't give girls to two men, and we shouldn't adopt boys to two men, and they said, we may arrest you lady. 1.00

02:25:54.000 Yeah, she got a phone call from the police and she said to them, well, have I broke any law?

02:25:59.000 They said, no, we're just investigating.

02:26:01.000 And, you know, she said, well, why don't you go out and catch some real criminals?

02:26:04.000 Stop wasting my time.

02:26:06.000 So, I mean, those are the real criminals now.

02:26:08.000 Authors and people who live in houses and own vehicles.

02:26:13.000 People who have been by the lake in London could be terrorists.

02:26:17.000 These posters... Tyranny is put in place to take land and take property and enslave people.

02:26:22.000 And you can bet your bottom dollar because all the economic indices show this.

02:26:25.000 You know, that's a big news story last week that China is now going to move away from the dollar.

02:26:29.000 And then the average public has no idea what that means, Paul.

02:26:32.000 Well, the economy's great.

02:26:34.000 It's improving all the time.

02:26:35.000 They believe it.

02:26:36.000 And that's the end of the story.

02:26:38.000 Doesn't matter.

02:26:39.000 Every major index and indice shows the opposite, Paul.

02:26:42.000 Exactly.

02:26:44.000 We're just being negative, Paul. 0.97

02:26:46.000 I guess, you know, I want to come back and talk about the Bush administration officials saying they can torture people's children in front of them and crush their genitalia.

02:26:53.000 Do you think we ought to talk about that when we get back, Paul?

02:26:56.000 Yeah, because I wrote an article last week saying, what's next?

02:27:00.000 Advocating torturing children.

02:27:02.000 You know, we've already seen it in 24.

02:27:04.000 With Bunsen burners, you said, yeah?

02:27:06.000 Yeah, and it came out yesterday.

02:27:09.000 You see, it was worse than what you thought they'd do, see?

02:27:12.000 Yeah.

02:27:13.000 It's always worse. 0.97

02:27:15.000 And there's actually weirdos right now going, yeah, killing, torturing children's good, huh? 0.94

02:27:20.000 That's what America's all about.

02:27:22.000 What's wrong with that Paul guy on there? 0.94

02:27:25.000 We need to torture children.

02:27:28.000 That's what freedom's about, and that's what we, that's what Jesus would do.

02:27:36.000 We're on the march.

02:27:38.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:37:56.000 Paul Watson, I want to get into the news and play a couple of audio clips here.

02:37:59.000 We're always honored to have you.

02:38:01.000 But tell us about some of the things we've been adding to PrisonPlanet.tv, then I want to get into Larry Silverstein.

02:38:07.000 Well, there's already a whole library there, which is now nearly two years old.

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02:38:51.000 You know, the bandwidth's great now.

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02:38:57.000 I mean, I can download videos faster than some, you know, big websites like Yahoo or Hotmail or whatever at higher speeds, so... Yeah, it was slowing down during peak times because everybody's been sharing their passcodes, but now we've got a just really smoking pipe in servers.

02:39:15.000 And so, yeah, and if it slows down again, we'll upgrade again, folks.

02:39:19.000 It's not like, you know, AOL or something where they're just ripping everybody off and nobody can get online.

02:39:25.000 Meanwhile, saying the internet's bad anyway.

02:39:30.000 Larry Silverstein, I got a couple of clips I want to play, Paul, but Larry Silverstein, they finally responded to, I mean, go through that great article you put together.

02:39:39.000 Well, yeah, it's been floating around the internet for a few months, but nobody picked up on it.

02:39:43.000 And I'm quite frustrated that this story wasn't bigger, because it answered a lot of the questions that people had about what Silverstein meant when he said, we pulled Building 7 on that PBS documentary.

02:39:57.000 And the answer, as you said, comes through the State Department website in their 9-11 debunking section, which also says that organ harvesting from executed Chinese prisoners is a conspiracy theory, even though it's admitted on their own website in a different area.

02:40:17.000 And it's, you know, it's been in every major newspaper you can mention for the past 5-10 years.

02:40:23.000 The Chinese government advertises it.

02:40:25.000 It's not like, you know, it's like saying Ford Motors doesn't exist.

02:40:29.000 Yeah, it's like saying the government putting mercury in vaccines is a conspiracy theory.

02:40:35.000 It's admitted.

02:40:37.000 But Phil Steen said through his spokesperson that he meant that he was referring to evacuating firefighters from the building when he said, we pulled the building.

02:40:51.000 Which doesn't correlate with the facts, because three separate official reports say that there were no firefighters in the building.

02:41:00.000 Never!

02:41:00.000 It was never fought!

02:41:01.000 No, the FEMA report... Then they say that no one died in it, though a Secret Service agent did, and now this police detective who died was actually somebody who was in there and barely got out as it collapsed.

02:41:12.000 Yeah.

02:41:13.000 Plus we have the squibs going off the building. 0.99

02:41:14.000 He says, we gave the order to watch it come down, and then it came down.

02:41:18.000 Then on the same documentary they say, pull it means destroy a building.

02:41:21.000 I mean, how simple is that?

02:41:23.000 Well, yeah.

02:41:24.000 FEMA report says no manual firefighting operations were taken by the FDNY in relation to building 7.

02:41:30.000 Local NPR reported that day.

02:41:31.000 The government may blow the building up to keep others safe.

02:41:34.000 The building fell into a perfect little demolition pile.

02:41:37.000 Yeah, and even Popular Mechanics' debunking piece had the quote from NIST, National Institute of Standards and Technology, as saying there was no, quote, there was no firefighting in WTC7.

02:41:50.000 They also say that...

02:41:52.000 North Tower fell and knocked out the central column, but their own debris field, they admit that the building never hit Building 7, that some dust did, and that the main support falls one second before the rest of the building falls at 5.30 in the afternoon.

02:42:07.000 I mean, it's publicly admitted that the North Tower didn't hit it, but they just make it up and say it did now!

02:42:14.000 Well, just look at the video, North Tower collapsing.

02:42:18.000 At the very least, it's hit by some dust.

02:42:20.000 That building basically turns into dust seconds after it starts to collapse because of the volume of explosives that must have been in there.

02:42:29.000 So, under no explanation can you say that the amount of... That we have demolition professors, we have demolition physicists who look at it and they go, look, it's a classic, there are the blast points, we've got the squibs, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!

02:42:44.000 I mean, you see the bombs going off!

02:42:47.000 Yeah, three steel buildings, um, The first in history and the only in history to collapse from fire damage, all in the same day.

02:42:57.000 But the point is, is that Silverstein has now changed his story as well, because earlier he just supposedly told a New York Post reporter that it was for some other reason, and I mean, now they're just in overdrive spin.

02:43:10.000 I mean, it's just, it's not going to work.

02:43:14.000 Well, now they're tripping over their own tongues, I mean, in one debunking piece.

02:43:18.000 You know, it'll contradict still the Steve.

02:43:22.000 There's a danger that debating all day what he meant when he said that clouds the fact that it's so blatantly obvious that the building was professionally demolished.

02:43:33.000 It doesn't matter what Silverstein says happened and what definition you can get out of that.

02:43:39.000 The evidence is there.

02:43:40.000 The squibs, you know, the people in the lower levels, also in the Trade Towers saying that bombs were going off.

02:43:47.000 The firefighters saying it.

02:43:49.000 And by the way, they've now released a bunch of other firefighter tapes they claim were destroyed, but it turns out that under national security, they'd hid them.

02:43:55.000 And on all the tapes, the firefighters are saying, bombs, bombs, bombs, bombs, bombs!

02:43:59.000 I mean, go and read any recount of September 11th, where they talk to people on the street, anyone who was in the building.

02:44:07.000 Invariably, in nearly every one, you'll see mentions of bombs.

02:44:11.000 It was as if they had detonated!

02:44:13.000 Boom, boom, boom! 0.95

02:44:15.000 Exactly, so... I mean, what do firefighters know?

02:44:18.000 And to my knowledge, nobody's taken up that one million dollar challenge to prove that the building collapsed from fire damage caused by falling debris alone.

02:44:29.000 Well, UL National Underwriters, the biggest group in the country, did their own internal test.

02:44:34.000 When their chief engineer went public and said it's all a fraud, fire won't do that, they fired Kevin Ryan.

02:44:40.000 And I mean, now there's all these other demolition experts going public?

02:44:43.000 I mean, it's just not true!

02:44:46.000 Exactly.

02:44:47.000 You've got so many credible individuals coming out and saying the same thing that it's getting to the level where they could come out and say Because they had reports put out where these hijackers, government agents, whatever you want to call them, were seen in the Trade Towers before the attack.

02:45:05.000 So they could come out and say that Al-Qaeda wired the building with bombs, if it gets to the level where public climate is so accepted.

02:45:14.000 That's something that would take months.

02:45:15.000 I mean, it takes months to do that, but of course the general public doesn't know that, so they'll probably believe it.

02:45:20.000 I don't think they'll do that, but it's always, you know, it's a last resort.

02:45:24.000 Well, that's what Vance tried to say when he debated me.

02:45:28.000 He admitted that Silverstein said he blew it up, because it's public, and then said, oh, but it was Al-Qaeda that did it.

02:45:34.000 I mean, it's just never, and you know, I want to play this clip, you talk about that comedy piece on Canadian TV, where it's a comedy TV show, but they're talking to real people on the street about mercury and the vaccines.

02:45:45.000 Go ahead and roll that mercury and vaccines clip.

02:45:51.000 Health Canada says the best way to avoid the flu is vaccination, which in many provinces is free.

02:45:56.000 Well, let's see if these recent flu shot recipients can help reveal the mystery of why Cheetos and Pop-Tarts list their ingredients while vaccines do their best not to.

02:46:05.000 Are you aware of the ingredients in the vaccine?

02:46:08.000 I know there's some egg products.

02:46:10.000 I don't think they offered us a list of ingredients, so... That, no.

02:46:13.000 I don't know.

02:46:14.000 This is blind faith for me.

02:46:15.000 Did you know that there's mercury in that shot?

02:46:17.000 No, I didn't.

02:46:18.000 Oh, I did not.

02:46:19.000 No.

02:46:19.000 Are you glad that it's free?

02:46:20.000 Yes.

02:46:21.000 But you know it's not really free.

02:46:22.000 Yes.

02:46:23.000 Well, it's paying through our taxes, right?

02:46:25.000 So... If I sneeze right now, would you be okay with that?

02:46:29.000 No.

02:46:32.000 These people confirmed two things.

02:46:34.000 Some are happy to wait in line for a secret serum, and nobody likes getting sneezed on.

02:46:40.000 Well, what if drug companies are right?

02:46:41.000 What if tricking your body into thinking it's already sick doesn't make you sick?

02:46:45.000 What if there's not enough vaccine to go around?

02:46:48.000 You should know that making your own is easier than brewing your own beer.

02:46:53.000 And it could save your life.

02:46:55.000 Well, the first thing you need is a live virus.

02:46:57.000 Is there anyone here suffering from the flu?

02:47:03.000 Sir, would you favor us by discharging directly onto these chicken embryos?

02:47:07.000 Maybe I could do that.

02:47:09.000 Okay, we now have our chicken embryos and our live virus.

02:47:15.000 Now from the pickled frog jar at your local school's biology class, we'll keep that virus dead like the drug companies do with formaldehyde.

02:47:25.000 Now careful, don't get any frog in the mix.

02:47:28.000 That'd be gross.

02:47:31.000 Now, let's add a little ether.

02:47:34.000 Careful, don't fall asleep.

02:47:36.000 And then we dump some detergent in there.

02:47:38.000 That keeps it clean.

02:47:41.000 And remember when your mother lost her mind when you played with mercury because it never leaves your body?

02:47:47.000 Well, that makes it a great preservative.

02:47:50.000 If you have a thermometer... Staying healthy is a lot more important than room temperature.

02:47:59.000 Now all of this goes into the centrifuge, like this blender, and... Hey, hey, hey!

02:48:06.000 Alright.

02:48:07.000 It's vaccine for the whole... You know what, there's more of it.

02:48:09.000 I'll air it tomorrow in the first hour, folks.

02:48:12.000 Gotta come back with Paul Watson and finish up with a few other news items.

02:48:15.000 Paul, I mean, that's really how they make the vaccine, my friend.

02:48:19.000 Yep, and then we get emails saying that it's the conspiracy theory that the government puts mercury in vaccines.

02:48:25.000 Well, that's right.

02:48:26.000 We're evil demons.

02:48:28.000 We made that up, Paul.

02:48:29.000 How do I have a CBS news piece saying it's nutritious?

02:48:32.000 Exactly.

02:48:34.000 I mean, mercury is nutritious.

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02:51:53.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:51:55.000 We've got a local news clip from Minnesota that one of our Engineers there saw and taped for us, and this is where they admit Minnesota and all these other governments sell all your data to these private groups.

02:52:07.000 They allow it to be public.

02:52:08.000 The government gets your data.

02:52:09.000 Do you understand?

02:52:10.000 And then they give it to everyone, and then the criminals go buy it, and then identity theft goes to all-time highs.

02:52:15.000 It's like Bank of America selling three million names to criminals.

02:52:19.000 It is.

02:52:19.000 It's brazen and open.

02:52:20.000 who then robbed a bunch of people, and then you hear TV ads about how we've all got to have national ID cards to keep us safe so the government can then sell that data.

02:52:27.000 And I've got a news piece admitting this.

02:52:29.000 I mean, Paul, it's so transparent.

02:52:31.000 It is.

02:52:33.000 It's brazen and open.

02:52:34.000 It always gets that way, you know, in the final days of tyranny.

02:52:38.000 The good news is this Associated Press poll, young adults have healthy attitude towards privacy, where the vast majority said that the NSA spying was a step behind what the KGB did.

02:52:54.000 And that was...

02:52:55.000 And at the same time here, privacy comes from the word for the toilet.

02:53:02.000 So even in our own privies, we have cameras now in hundreds of school bathrooms.

02:53:08.000 Make sure you add that to the police statement.

02:53:10.000 I mean, how far is it going to go?

02:53:12.000 President's top officials saying torture children and crush their private parts in front of their parents?

02:53:20.000 Jeffrey Dahmer type stuff?

02:53:22.000 And Mercury's good for you?

02:53:24.000 I mean, where does it end, Paul?

02:53:26.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I wrote an article in December.

02:53:29.000 This former White House spokesman, Blackwell, said, in the case of an imminent attack, would you torture the terrorists to gain information?

02:53:38.000 And he argued that you would, which, of course, has never happened in history.

02:53:43.000 And everyone agrees, who can still put two brain cells together, that You know, someone under that situation is not going to give credible information.

02:53:53.000 Well, it's a hypothetical worst case scenario just to convince and perfect the argument for torture, period.

02:53:59.000 Yeah.

02:53:59.000 It's a total fraud.

02:54:00.000 So I said, you know, why not up the ante and put Bunsen burners to children? 0.69

02:54:07.000 In order to protect the American people.

02:54:09.000 And then this, um, spokesman for Bush yesterday comes out and says something even worse than that, or at least advocates it by saying that, you know, it'd be down to the President.

02:54:21.000 Well, he wrote in memos, I mean, he wrote in memos the President could do that to the President.

02:54:25.000 Oh, President, you can burn them, you can, I mean, you can crush them. 0.88

02:54:28.000 I mean, imagine how sick that is. 1.00

02:54:30.000 And of course, it's not even real terrorists, folks.

02:54:33.000 The President is the man or the actual terrorist that attacked us.

02:54:37.000 Yeah, and as Paul Craig Roberts said, you get self-implicating innocent people who will say anything to prevent this.

02:54:46.000 So you create terrorists in that sense.

02:54:47.000 Well, we've got the independent here, total side issue, but I mentioned it earlier, admitting that mammals they've done tests on are six times higher in mortality rate of newborn when mother was fed a diet of genetically engineered soy.

02:54:59.000 I mean, that's what all the evidence shows, but people are still going to go out and eat this, Paul.

02:55:05.000 They are, because they don't care.

02:55:07.000 And to reach those people, in most cases, is not even worth the effort.

02:55:12.000 So the point is, exactly, exactly, the point is, in this climate of this stuff, we're all being abused, folks.

02:55:18.000 Yeah, and you can't always avoid all the trappings of it, but you can at least be aware of it, and make an effort to.

02:55:26.000 Well, I agree with you.

02:55:26.000 We've got to get you back up for longer than an hour sometime.

02:55:29.000 There's been so much, and tomorrow we'll play that Minnesota clip.

02:55:32.000 But Paul, anything else you want to add?

02:55:35.000 No, just to keep fighting.

02:55:37.000 I mean, a benchmark of our success is what they haven't done, not necessarily what we have.

02:55:41.000 You know, Galloway said they'd be in Damascus and Tehran by now.

02:55:44.000 So, where there's a will, there's a way, and we can change things for the better.

02:55:49.000 Well, that's the point, is that they're juggernauts rolling forward, but we're slowing it.

02:55:55.000 Yeah, and that's the best we can do.

02:55:58.000 Exactly.

02:55:58.000 And the longer we hold them, the worse their case gets.

02:56:01.000 The more they're revealed, the stronger our forces grow.

02:56:04.000 The more we can hold them back, folks.

02:56:06.000 So, everybody, put your weight physically against their machinery.

02:56:10.000 Stop being apologetic.

02:56:12.000 Be bold.

02:56:13.000 Criminals run our society. 1.00

02:56:15.000 They must be brought to justice.

02:56:16.000 Paul Watson, I salute you for your great work, my friend.

02:56:18.000 Okay.

02:56:19.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:56:19.000 You bet.

02:56:20.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:21.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:22.000 God bless you all.

02:56:23.000 Get out there and take on the new world.

Alex Jones Show - January 10, 2006

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