Alex Jones Show - 20060117_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome to my friends.

00:00:39.000 It's the 17th day of January, 2014.

00:00:44.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:47.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:49.000 We're going to have wide open phones.

00:00:50.000 We're also scheduled to have the NSA whistleblower joining us, Sybil Edmonds, today as well.

00:00:58.000 And we're working on one other surprise guest, but we will have open phones throughout the broadcast.

00:01:04.000 Any news issue, any item, you disagree with me, you agree with me.

00:01:08.000 You think we've missed something that we should be talking about?

00:01:11.000 Whatever you'd like to discuss, 1-800-259-9231.

00:01:16.000 This is all about the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

00:01:19.000 We're defending this country from enemies foreign and domestic.

00:01:23.000 Both political parties are bought and paid for by the New World Order.

00:01:26.000 They use smoke and mirrors to distract and divert us, and we are here exposing and fighting that.

00:01:32.000 The Feds are beating the drum again.

00:01:33.000 Only a matter of time before terrorists use weapons of mass destruction.

00:01:38.000 We better give up all of our rights to them and let them run our lives. 0.99

00:01:41.000 Or the evil terrorists will have their way with us.

00:01:44.000 I wonder why the terrorists are always trying to help out the government and the private financial interests that own and control it.

00:01:51.000 There's more rebellions in China.

00:01:53.000 Chinese violently quell new protests.

00:01:56.000 And that whole country is on the verge of a revolution.

00:01:59.000 They see the corruption.

00:02:01.000 They know what's going on.

00:02:02.000 They're tired of it.

00:02:04.000 And the paramilitary police are cracking down big time.

00:02:07.000 I've been talking quite a bit about Iran, but frankly not quite enough with More U.S.

00:02:12.000 fighters moving into the area, into Iraq, Turkey, and other areas, openly saying they may attack, may invade Israel.

00:02:19.000 Saying the same thing.

00:02:20.000 Christina Amanpour, who of anybody is a CIA front in the media, it's her. 0.55

00:02:24.000 I mean, we've already caught a lot of them being under the globalist control.

00:02:28.000 She poses as a leftist.

00:02:30.000 It's completely obvious the things she's up to.

00:02:34.000 Openly misquoting with their Arabic translator, they knew what he said in the address.

00:02:38.000 They knew that he said that they were dedicated to developing peaceful nuclear power.

00:02:45.000 And then that got turned into, The leader of Iran says he'll nuke Israel!

00:02:48.000 It's documented! 1.00

00:02:49.000 Kill him! 1.00

00:02:49.000 See? 1.00

00:02:50.000 Kill him! 1.00

00:02:51.000 It doesn't matter if it's shown to be false letters, still that's in people's minds. 0.99

00:02:54.000 It's like all the hundreds of reports of, We found WMDs!

00:02:58.000 We found them!

00:02:59.000 There's lots of people who say they found them.

00:03:02.000 In fact, you know, there's lots of neocon publications selling books and little magazines, you know, the headline, we found WMDs! 0.69

00:03:10.000 Why won't Bush defend himself?

00:03:15.000 It's just amazing, and I'll be arguing with somebody in six months after they've invaded Iran, after they've attacked it. 1.00

00:03:20.000 After World War 3, he started, oh no, he said he'd nuke Israel.

00:03:25.000 No, no, that's not true.

00:03:26.000 Oh yeah, he did.

00:03:28.000 CNN, even them liberals.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, liberals with Pentagon satellites. 0.62

00:03:32.000 Liberals with all their fake news.

00:03:34.000 I mean, I'm just tired of it.

00:03:36.000 So, we'll get into that.

00:03:39.000 And also Russia says imposing sanctions is a bad way of dealing with Iran.

00:03:43.000 Iran says they'll drive up oil prices if that happens.

00:03:46.000 And they're threatening to block UN inspections.

00:03:49.000 How dare them?

00:03:50.000 They need to accept an international body running their country.

00:03:53.000 National sovereignty is bad. 0.96

00:03:55.000 Them Iranians need to be turned into a glass parking lot. 1.00

00:03:59.000 And of course, the coalition urges the Department of Homeland Security to reject real ID chip mandate as the states adopt RFID and biometrics in all 50 states.

00:04:09.000 The national ID card now taking shape.

00:04:12.000 Meanwhile, the average American has no idea what's going on.

00:04:14.000 Meanwhile, in England, Lords defeat ID card scheme again.

00:04:19.000 The people are against it in 80 plus percent, and so they're having trouble there, but the average American isn't.

00:04:26.000 So a country where there's Four million plus surveillance cameras in London alone, and the citizens watch surveillance cameras on their table as entertainment, where they have a total police state, and you still don't have national ID cards.

00:04:38.000 But, oh, here, land of the free, home of the brave, we do.

00:04:40.000 And don't even know we do.

00:04:41.000 It's part of the new freedom.

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00:08:11.000 Sybil Edmonds, NSA whistleblower, scheduled to join us in the middle of the next hour. 0.84

00:08:21.000 She was hired by the government post 9-11 and then she was told to go in and edit.

00:08:28.000 NSA intercepts to actually go in and cover up what the NSA had intercepted.

00:08:34.000 You see, in reality, the NSA did get red flags about 9/11, and then they were ordered by the Bush administration to back off and shut up.

00:08:43.000 And defense intelligence officers were told to back off.

00:08:47.000 FBI agents were told to back off.

00:08:49.000 You see, when Big Brother actually does do its job and pick up overseas transmissions and picks up chatter of what a compartmentalized group in the government is about to do to itself, to use that as the catalyst to seize control and set up a police state in America and use this country as an engine for world government and empire, the NSA was told to back off and shut up.

00:09:16.000 And that's all part of the public record.

00:09:19.000 That's all admitted.

00:09:20.000 We've interviewed these FBI agents.

00:09:21.000 We've interviewed David Shipper as a representative.

00:09:23.000 We've interviewed members of Congress that have reported on this.

00:09:27.000 This is admitted.

00:09:27.000 Bush signed W199I, ordering the FBI not to stop, quote, Al-Qaeda, because those so-called Al-Qaeda agents were really U.S.

00:09:37.000 government assets who thought they were taking part in drills Who then got a rude awakening about who they were really working for.

00:09:46.000 And we have that open and shut case, iron clad, so much evidence, it quite frankly rivals the Atlantic Ocean, or perhaps the Pacific Ocean.

00:09:56.000 I mean, it is big, it is wide, it is deep, it is voluminous, it is encyclopedic, it is ridiculously well documented.

00:10:09.000 People always say, Alex, a conspiracy, a program of corruption this big.

00:10:14.000 It's too big.

00:10:14.000 People would speak out.

00:10:15.000 People would go public.

00:10:17.000 The people doing it would be caught, and they have been caught.

00:10:21.000 How many congressmen and women have spoken out?

00:10:22.000 How many high-level members of the current Bush administration, and the Reagan administration, and the former Bush administration, and the Clinton administration, and how many defense ministers, and foreign ministers, and how many agents, and how many people at the Defense Language School, and Pensacola Naval Air Station?

00:10:39.000 Have gone public and said what I'm saying right now.

00:10:42.000 But we're lucky it's in the back of some newspaper, or the back of some journal, or said in a radio interview.

00:10:48.000 It's like John Loftus, a top counter-terrorism expert for the FBI, had him on a few months ago and he said, yeah, it's clear that Oswald, the 7-7 bombing mastermind, the controller of some patsies, is MI6 and being protected.

00:11:05.000 And he went through how clearly that it points directly to the British government.

00:11:10.000 I mean, who is John Loftus?

00:11:11.000 The guy's got a show on ABC News Radio every week.

00:11:16.000 I mean, it's not like... This is not that radical of a broadcast.

00:11:20.000 We just take all the different bad things that are happening, the scary things that are happening, the good things that are happening, the amazing things that are happening, We kind of wiggle around over the Michael Jackson story, through the Britney Spears articles, around the stories about the U2 Longhorns and the Rose Bowl.

00:11:40.000 All of that stuff might be important to some people, but to us it's not.

00:11:43.000 We go, oh look, there's five articles this week about how the Feds

00:11:48.000 The Department of Agriculture and local governments are using the satellites to tax and fine and fee farmers and see how much you're really growing and see if you've got a well on your land you're not supposed to have or to see if you built a house and need to be paying property taxes or a new barn where you're not allowed to build new barns because of the impervious cover zoning laws and then they send out Homeland Security and arrest you because it's a federal crime or it's a local crime.

00:12:16.000 Or, oh look, there's three articles today about defense intelligence and about the NSA having local police spying on citizens.

00:12:25.000 Gun groups, liberal groups, land rights groups, you know, the whole spectrum.

00:12:29.000 Oh, but the border's wide open.

00:12:31.000 You know, here's ten articles about more cops being killed and more federal troop invasions, Mexican federal troop invasions, and all of this.

00:12:39.000 And oh, here's articles about how The national ID cards are now going at the state level.

00:12:44.000 They're state mandates.

00:12:46.000 Federal mandates to the states.

00:12:47.000 And it'll totally track us.

00:12:48.000 Your ID card can be read from hundreds of feet away from readers they're putting up everywhere.

00:12:53.000 No one asked you.

00:12:54.000 They were putting the readers up before 9-11.

00:12:56.000 The whole grid was being planned, being built, being set up.

00:12:59.000 And then, oh, it's all because of 9-11 now.

00:13:03.000 Pretty ridiculous.

00:13:06.000 It would be kind of like if the fire department showed up at your house before there was a fire, but as soon as they pull up it explodes in flames. 0.87

00:13:12.000 You'd think, man, the fire department got this knowledge from somebody who set the fire.

00:13:19.000 But again, that's just logic.

00:13:21.000 So all of this is going on, and then think about it.

00:13:24.000 We have this crew who came into Congress Who came into the executive branch, who's gotten all these judgeships, the majority of the governorships, the gubernatorial seats, promising to end corruption, the age of credibility and upstandingness in government.

00:13:44.000 And now we've seen a new dark age of corruption and bid rigging and profiteering and hundreds of millions stolen, you know, with this congressman or that congressman.

00:13:53.000 Eight hundred million here, a hundred million there.

00:13:58.000 Abramoff and trillions missing from the Pentagon.

00:14:03.000 And Rumsfeld gets asked about it and he says, I'm not going to talk about it.

00:14:06.000 I don't know where it is, so what?

00:14:08.000 Eh, just trillions of dollars.

00:14:09.000 But don't worry, we're going to give you a ticket if we catch you speeding.

00:14:15.000 This is the type of stuff that's happening.

00:14:17.000 These are the type of things that are going on all over the country.

00:14:22.000 And every classical indicator of tyranny is being set up in front of us.

00:14:27.000 In fact, there's an amazing article that we have up on PrisonPlanet.com written by the former Chief Economist for Ronald Reagan, the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, who ran the Treasury Department and was the main economist that Reagan tried to follow.

00:14:46.000 I mean, a real classical conservative, I'm inventing new words here, Saying that we are now an insipid dictatorship.

00:14:55.000 Which is actually true.

00:14:57.000 There's different forms of them.

00:14:59.000 And right now it is very extreme when it comes to stealing and engaging in corruption.

00:15:07.000 And mild when it comes to overt oppression.

00:15:12.000 And I would say somewhat lukewarm, starting to get a little bit simmering and hot when it comes to surveillance, and then white hot, blistering hot, steel-melting hot when it comes to preparations for overt, 10 on the Richter scale, classical, full-blown tyranny.

00:15:38.000 So, I mean, depending on which indicator you look at, and Paul Craig Roberts has written a great article about this, and I intend to read much of the article here in the broadcast today.

00:15:54.000 And, of course, we will be taking your phone calls, but just ignore what I'm saying.

00:16:00.000 Everything's fine.

00:16:01.000 The terrorists are going to strike us any minute.

00:16:04.000 Henry Crumpton, the newly appointed head of counter-terrorism at the U.S.

00:16:09.000 State Department, believes that it's simply a matter of time before international terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda acquire weapons of mass destruction and use them in attacks.

00:16:20.000 In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, Mr. Crumpton, who previously spent 20 years working for the Central Intelligence Agency, which admits it's carried out terror attacks worldwide to blame it on their enemies, but That's just a side issue.

00:16:31.000 We're supposed to ignore the admissions that our own government carries out terror attacks to blame it on their political rivals or enemies.

00:16:37.000 Warned yesterday that the war on terror was likely to last for decades.

00:16:42.000 Well, Cheney says 100 years, Bush says 50.

00:16:46.000 Basically until everything's under their control, under their progeny's control, until every bank account feeds directly into their fat gullets. 0.76

00:16:53.000 The threat has changed the way we will fight wars in the future, he said.

00:16:57.000 Ah yes, the perfect enemy, foggy, can never be defeated, you can accuse anyone of it, and then all crime can then be defined as terrorism.

00:17:06.000 It brings federal control into everything.

00:17:09.000 We are talking about micro-targets such as Al-Qaeda, which, when combined with WMD, have a micro-impact. 0.79

00:17:16.000 I rate the probability of terror groups using WMD to attack Western targets as very high.

00:17:22.000 It is simply a question of time.

00:17:24.000 And it's not just a nuclear threat that bothers me.

00:17:26.000 I think, if anything, the biological threat is going to grow.

00:17:30.000 Well, much of the economy is shifting into the BioShield program, to make hundreds of vaccines mandatory, to force these special concoctions, because the government loves us so much they want us to have these.

00:17:42.000 Doesn't matter, the very same government, 3,000 plus times admittedly, Has tested chemical, biological, and radiologicals on U.S.

00:17:49.000 populations, killing U.S. 0.80

00:17:50.000 civilians and military by design on purpose, declassified.

00:17:54.000 We should just trust the very group that's done this over and over again to force these vaccines on us, despite the fact that Nobel Prize winners and many others have gone public in Indian and Chinese and Russian.

00:18:06.000 And African scientists have isolated cancer viruses, sterilization agents, good old classic poisons, in every batch of major vaccine that the UN has provided for the third world. 1.00

00:18:17.000 We should just trust a group that openly says they want a world government so they can orderly reduce our population by 85 to 95 percent, depending on what study or document they put out, and who openly has been caught testing biologicals on us over and over again.

00:18:32.000 You see, that's the thing.

00:18:33.000 I had some caller who disagreed yesterday, and he didn't deny that the U.S.

00:18:38.000 government, that is criminal elements of it, admittedly staged the Gulf of Tonkin, staged the U.S.' 's liberty with Israel, carried out terror attacks in Iran to blame it on their political enemies.

00:18:51.000 All that's admitted.

00:18:51.000 I mean, I have CIA agents on all the time, government agents on all the time.

00:18:54.000 They go, yeah, we carried out terror attacks in Iran to blame it on Mossadegh.

00:18:59.000 He wouldn't.

00:18:59.000 He just said, well, I just didn't.

00:19:01.000 I'm not talking about that.

00:19:02.000 He said, I don't think 9-11 was.

00:19:04.000 You see, and he goes, I don't think that pertains to this.

00:19:07.000 See, it doesn't pertain to it.

00:19:09.000 It'd be like if you had somebody on your street who'd committed 10 murders.

00:19:16.000 And then somebody got murdered on your street by the exact same tactics and Way that this individual had killed 10 people 25 years before and now he's been paroled and released.

00:19:31.000 I mean, no, no, the police would instantly seize that individual.

00:19:34.000 They would instantly, and then especially the individual had the motive.

00:19:38.000 I mean, let's imagine the guy's in prison and he says when he gets out, he dreams of killing people a certain way.

00:19:45.000 And then when he gets out, he commits a murder that exact way.

00:19:48.000 Now, let's not question him.

00:19:50.000 No, no, no.

00:19:52.000 Let's go to the Antarctica and look for maybe a polar bear that did it.

00:19:56.000 It's just, what's wrong with you?

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00:24:14.000 Thank you.

00:24:16.000 He was number two at the Department of Treasury during the Reagan administration and is highly respected as a conservative, an extreme conservative, all across the country.

00:24:28.000 And by extreme conservative, you know, he believes that the government spending more money than has ever been borrowed or spent by all administrations before it is not conservative.

00:24:38.000 Or assigning predominantly anti-gun judges to judgeships is not conservative.

00:24:45.000 Or more than tripling abortion money to the UN is not conservative.

00:24:51.000 But, again, I guess according to a lot of conservatives, killing babies is conservative.

00:24:56.000 So I'm not going to argue with them. 0.95

00:24:58.000 Maybe they're right.

00:24:59.000 Maybe we're evil liberals, like they've always said.

00:25:04.000 Paul Craig Roberts wrote this article.

00:25:05.000 It's titled, Bush Has Crossed the Rubicon.

00:25:08.000 Of course, that's when Caesar came across a particular river in the north of Italy.

00:25:14.000 General Everett brought his main force into Italy proper.

00:25:18.000 He was attempting, of course, to set up martial law and he would be seized and basically executed if he didn't win.

00:25:24.000 But he did bring his troops, of course, into Rome and did set up a dictator ship.

00:25:32.000 There's a reason we have Posse Comitatus, the 1878 law.

00:25:36.000 Dictatorships seldom appear full-fledged, but emerge piecemeal.

00:25:41.000 When Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with one Roman legion, he broke the tradition that protected the civilian government from victorious generals and launched the transformation of the Roman Republic into a Roman Empire.

00:25:55.000 Now, remember how Tommy Franks and all these generals went, Gee, I'm real sorry, but we're going to probably have a military dictatorship to keep you safe?

00:26:05.000 Well, see, that's what Caesar said.

00:26:07.000 I'm real sorry, but I've got to do this for Rome.

00:26:12.000 Fearing that Caesar would become a king, the Senate assassinated him.

00:26:16.000 And it says, from the civil wars that followed, Caesar's grand-nephew, Octavian, ...emerged as the first Roman Emperor, Caesar Augustus.

00:26:29.000 2,000 years later in Germany, Adolf Hitler's rise to dictator from his appointment as Chancellor was rampant.

00:26:37.000 Hitler used the Reichstag fire to create an atmosphere of crisis.

00:26:43.000 Both the judicial and legislative branches of the government collapsed.

00:26:46.000 That's now happening.

00:26:48.000 And because he says he doesn't have to follow them.

00:26:50.000 And Hitler's decrees became law. 0.92

00:26:52.000 That's what they're now claiming, that executive wartime power.

00:26:57.000 The decree for the protection of the people and the state, February 28, 1933, suspended guarantees of personal liberty and permitted arrest and incarceration Without trial.

00:27:12.000 The Enabling Act, March 23, 1933, transferred legislative power to Herr Hitler, permitting him to decree laws, laws, moreover, that may deviate from the German Constitution. 0.65

00:27:28.000 The dictatorship of the Roman Emperors was not based on an ideology.

00:27:32.000 The Nazis had an ideology of sorts, but Hitler's dictatorship was largely personal and agenda-based.

00:27:39.000 The dictatorship that emerged from the Bolshevik Revolution was based on ideology.

00:27:44.000 Lenin declared that the Communist Party's dictatorship over the Russian people rests directly on force, Not limited by anything, not restricted by laws or any absolute rules.

00:27:57.000 Exactly what Alberto Gonzales and John Woo say.

00:28:01.000 Or John Yoo, excuse me, one of the chief counsels of Bush, saying they can torture children and crush their genitalia if they wish in front of their parents.

00:28:09.000 Stalin's dictatorship over the Communist Party was based on coercion alone, unrestrained by any limitations or inhibitions.

00:28:20.000 In the first decade of the 21st century, the United States regards itself as a land of democracy and civil liberty.

00:28:27.000 But in fact, in an insipid dictatorship, ideology plays only a limited role in the emerging dictatorship.

00:28:37.000 The demise of the American democracy, or our republic, is largely the result of historical developments.

00:28:44.000 Lincoln was the first American tyrant.

00:28:46.000 Lincoln justified his tyranny in the name of preserving the Union.

00:28:50.000 His extra-legal, extra-constitutional methods were tolerated in order to suppress Northern opposition to Lincoln's war against the Southern secession.

00:28:59.000 The first major lasting assault in the U.S.

00:29:01.000 Constitution, separation of powers, which is the basis of our political system, came with a response ...of the Roosevelt administration to the crisis of the Great Depression.

00:29:12.000 The New Deal resulted in the Congress deleting its legislative powers and delegating them to the executive branch.

00:29:20.000 Today, when Congress passes a statute, it is little more than an authorization for an executive agency to make the law by writing the regulations that implement it.

00:29:29.000 We will continue with crossing the Rubicon.

00:29:33.000 Bush has crossed the Rubicon.

00:29:36.000 The New World Order has crossed it.

00:29:39.000 The point of no return.

00:29:42.000 Because they're so criminal, the globalists are, Bush is their puppet, that if they don't keep pushing, they're all gonna go to jail.

00:29:48.000 So the battle will be joined. 0.77

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:54.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:18.000 I don't have time.

00:33:19.000 To read this entire article, Bush has crossed the Rubicon by Paul Craig Roberts, but it's up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:33:31.000 But he goes through the process of how the executive has been strengthened and strengthened and strengthened and become more and more powerful.

00:33:41.000 And now, we played that clip yesterday of Arlen Specter going, I'm gonna really get tough on Bush, and Bush pushed to be appointed as committee chairman of the Judiciary Committee, a very powerful committee.

00:33:51.000 Because if that committee's corrupt, basically then the executive can do whatever it wants, so.

00:33:56.000 And Specter is their man, he's always been their man, but he says, we'll see, you know, I think he may have overstepped on this, but he may just have total command, and he may just be able to have total executive control and be above all laws.

00:34:10.000 That's what he said, in essence.

00:34:13.000 He said, we're going to examine that in these hearings, as if it needs to be examined.

00:34:17.000 The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, common sense, jurisprudence, common law, our entire history, the Federalist Papers, all of the different federal laws show it's totally illegal.

00:34:30.000 The President can't rob banks, the President can't Bomb schools if he wants to, the President can't run a casino off the White House lawn, at least publicly.

00:34:43.000 So if the President can't drive 120 miles an hour while drinking Jack Daniels through a school zone, then how can he violate and break federal law and then say, I'm the President, I can break any law I want?

00:34:57.000 And listen, people pointed Al Gore coming out and saying it's a police state, the Constitution's been shredded, Bush is trying to be a dictator, Bush says, no, I'm not a dictator, and they say, well, Al Gore and Bill Clinton helped set up a police state, and that's right.

00:35:12.000 It just gets worse each successive administration.

00:35:17.000 Because that was the plan all along by the powerful financial institutions that own and run our country to a great extent and are gaining more control every day.

00:35:26.000 They want us as an engine, as a tool, to be their creature for larger global domination and hegemony.

00:35:35.000 A larger hegemon.

00:35:36.000 And that is exactly what's happening.

00:35:39.000 And now it's not just Alex Jones, ten years ago, screaming bloody murder about this, as I saw all of the preparations Now, it is the general public and many prominent people who are honestly looking at what's happening and what's being declared and what's being done.

00:35:55.000 I mean, when I learned in 1998 that the Army had approached, let me give you one example, Thomas Sanchez, Vietnam veteran, patriot, conservative, Hispanic American down in South Texas in Kingsville.

00:36:12.000 They approached him and they said, we're preparing for martial law to take over America and confiscate guns.

00:36:18.000 We'd like you to take part in this drill.

00:36:21.000 And he said, get out of my office and started calling the press.

00:36:24.000 And he was on local Texas News.

00:36:28.000 He was on the 700 Club of all places.

00:36:32.000 He was on this radio show.

00:36:35.000 We went down and interviewed him as well.

00:36:38.000 And then we interviewed the police chief next door in Alice, who just said, yeah, I did the drill, and yeah, there were foreign troops, but I'm not going to talk to you about it.

00:36:45.000 We can't let you know our tactics, because you're the enemy.

00:36:49.000 And then the chief of police in San Antonio, they tried to bribe him.

00:36:52.000 He threw them out.

00:36:54.000 Said what they were doing was unconstitutional.

00:36:56.000 Didn't matter.

00:36:57.000 They then went back to the mayor, paid him a bunch of money, gave a bunch of money to the city.

00:37:01.000 So the city then agreed to scale down urban warfare drills.

00:37:05.000 But what were those drills for?

00:37:07.000 They told the local public servants, they told the officials, who I guess still back in the late 90's had their heads screwed on partially straight, that this is to take over America!

00:37:19.000 Now listen, I don't need to hear that from Thomas Sanchez.

00:37:24.000 I don't need to hear that from Ali Philippus.

00:37:28.000 I don't need to hear that.

00:37:29.000 I went to the Urban Warfare Drills in South Texas and Central Texas in Northern California.

00:37:36.000 I've been to the drills in Brooksville, Florida.

00:37:40.000 I've been chased by special forces.

00:37:42.000 I've had them arrest me.

00:37:45.000 I've had them detain me.

00:37:46.000 I've had them grab tapes out of cameras and erase them.

00:37:50.000 I've had them laugh at me and say, we've been watching you the whole time.

00:37:54.000 I've had them parked outside my hotel room. 0.98

00:37:57.000 All because I wanted to get you video of them training to jerk your little kids away from you and strip you down naked and shower you and get you all ready and make sure you're sanitary for the camp for your safety! 0.99

00:38:17.000 And the Marines even let me videotape in one case where they got wise to me as they were doing mock interrogations. 0.81

00:38:23.000 Where are you from?

00:38:24.000 I'm from San Francisco.

00:38:25.000 Where'd you get the helmet?

00:38:26.000 Where'd you get the weapons?

00:38:28.000 Why are you resisting us?

00:38:29.000 And then all of a sudden, uh, what was the name?

00:38:31.000 Richard Jones, their PR guy, runs over.

00:38:33.000 Back off, Jones! 0.77

00:38:34.000 You can't take this!

00:38:35.000 I said you can't take that!

00:38:40.000 And then people saw the footage in Police State 2000.

00:38:43.000 Of the Marines in Hebron, Maryland with 12-year-old kids working for them, asking the kids, go tell us who owns guns in your neighborhood, doing these drills, practicing taking over the police station.

00:38:56.000 I mean, I saw all of that, so I started freaking out about it until people got sick of it.

00:39:02.000 We don't want to hear about martial law or the end of posse commentatis or the military being used in America.

00:39:07.000 That'll never happen.

00:39:08.000 Now, Governor Ridge announced Governor Chertoff.

00:39:11.000 They're on TV.

00:39:12.000 Getting rid of posse commentatis is good.

00:39:14.000 Getting rid of posse commentatis would fix the problems in Katrina. 0.98

00:39:17.000 We need Federal police, you know, the Viper teams from all over the country searching people and doing random checkpoints and federal grants to have police go out in riot gear and surround businesses and just randomly search everyone, training you how to be a slave.

00:39:38.000 And listen, a lot of people think they control reality in their heads.

00:39:41.000 They think if they just deny what I'm saying, that somehow that makes it go away.

00:39:49.000 I assure you, if you're in debt, just turn on the television and suck in your thumb and eat another cheeseburger, you're not going to make it go away.

00:39:59.000 If you, let's say, have got too much salt intake and you're sick and the doctor says you've got to quit eating as much salt, just saying everything will be fine and eating more salt isn't going to help you.

00:40:09.000 It's simple.

00:40:10.000 If your house is a mess, just wishing it to be clean won't make it go away.

00:40:14.000 You've got to roll up your sleeves, decide it's going to be fun, and get in there and clean the house.

00:40:19.000 You've got to decide it's going to be fun and get on that stair-stepper.

00:40:23.000 You've got to decide it's going to be fun and go get a second job and stop wasting so much money.

00:40:27.000 And then it's going to feel good to get out of debt and to end up having more money in your bank account.

00:40:33.000 You're not going to raise good children just hoping they grow up right and letting the government schools raise them.

00:40:38.000 They're going to end up bad on average.

00:40:41.000 I mean, you're really putting them in harm's way.

00:40:42.000 I wouldn't play Russian roulette with a cylinder with six holes in it and you've got three bullets in it, basically.

00:40:48.000 50-50.

00:40:51.000 I'm not trying to preach here, folks.

00:40:52.000 This is just common sense.

00:40:54.000 The stuff I'm saying was figured out a long time ago.

00:40:56.000 I'm just repeating it.

00:40:58.000 And I've experienced it, so I know it's verifiable.

00:41:00.000 I know it's demonstrable.

00:41:03.000 So just wishing and hoping the government wasn't going bad, and I mean going bad in a really bad way, not just a good old boy corruption.

00:41:10.000 It went bad a long time ago.

00:41:12.000 It went bad from the start.

00:41:13.000 That's the nature of man, and so it's the nature of governments magnified.

00:41:19.000 But it's getting really bad.

00:41:21.000 I mean it's going as bad as it could go.

00:41:23.000 It's going bad in a focused, scientifically crafted way.

00:41:30.000 And going along with it, licking its boots, and kissing up to it, isn't going to protect you, it isn't going to protect me, it isn't going to protect any of us.

00:41:41.000 And it really, at the end of the day, in the final equation, comes down to that.

00:41:48.000 You know Big Brother's out of control.

00:41:50.000 You know the dollar's been devalued.

00:41:52.000 You know the economy isn't doing as good as it was doing ten years ago.

00:41:57.000 And regardless of what the mainstream media says, all the key indicators of the debt, corporate, private, federal, state, all the indicators of test scores, all the indicators of truancy, and the indicators of illegitimacy in births, and the indicators of sexually transmitted diseases, and the indicators at every level, we're going bad, we're going bad in a big way.

00:42:23.000 And the salve of sports and the salve of sex and the salve of porno and the salve of drugs and liquor, none of it is going to gloss it over.

00:42:33.000 It's just going to make it worse.

00:42:36.000 It might distract you and divert you for a minute.

00:42:39.000 I mean, entertainment even advertises itself as a distraction now.

00:42:43.000 Well, we're the opposite of entertainment.

00:42:45.000 I guess you could call it infotainment if you wanted to, but I mean, there's nothing more energizing, if you just want what you'd call stimulation, than actually knowing the truth, and really being aware, and watching the grand chess board that is the planet Earth.

00:43:00.000 Now, I want to go to your calls and get into some bunch of news, and we have some guests coming up today, but I know that Bert and John and Michael and Mark and John and others are holding, but let me just finish with some of what Paul Craig Roberts was saying.

00:43:14.000 President Bush has used signing statements hundreds of times to talk about the message and the meaning of statutes passed by Congress.

00:43:25.000 In effect, Bush is vetoing the bills he signs into law by asserting unilateral authority as commander in chief to bypass or set aside the laws he signs.

00:43:36.000 He says, I'm signing this but I don't have to follow it.

00:43:39.000 For example, Bush has asserted that he has the power to ignore the McCain Amendment against torture, to ignore the law that requires a warrant to spy on Americans, to ignore the prohibition against indefinite detention without charges or trial, and to ignore the Geneva Conventions to which the U.S.

00:43:56.000 is a signatory.

00:43:58.000 But then people say, but we're doing this to fight terrorists.

00:44:01.000 And then you find out he's just setting the precedent that really the FISA court is really unconstitutional and there's no warrant there.

00:44:08.000 It's retroactive.

00:44:09.000 And then you learn who's really behind the terror and then things really make sense.

00:44:13.000 In effect, Bush is asserting the powers that accrued to Hitler in 33.

00:44:19.000 His Federalist Society apologist that the Department of Justice appointed claims that President Bush has the same power to interpret the Constitution as the Supreme Court.

00:44:29.000 An Alito court is likely to agree with this false claim.

00:44:35.000 Well, I've read the papers of Alito as a judge, and boy, he believes in total dictatorship.

00:44:41.000 I don't care what he says in front of Congress now, because he's in trouble for it.

00:44:44.000 This is the greatest issue that is before the country.

00:44:47.000 But it is pushed into the background by political battles over abortion and homosexual rights.

00:44:52.000 Many people fighting to strengthen the executive think they are fighting against legitimizing sodomy and murder in the womb.

00:44:59.000 They are unaware that the real issue is that America is on the verge of elevating its president above the law.

00:45:07.000 Exactly, and Bush isn't going to get rid of any of that stuff he's promised you he will.

00:45:11.000 Oh, if he's a dictator, he can stop this, and he can beat those evil liberals. 1.00

00:45:15.000 You mean all the gay porn stars and gay escort whores in the White House? 1.00

00:45:21.000 You mean those that are literally running out of there like rats every night? 1.00

00:45:25.000 Just spilling out of there in Bohemian Grove? 1.00

00:45:28.000 The top gay porn star services, Christian conservative leaders. 0.99

00:45:31.000 You know, New York Post headline, but it's okay. 0.99

00:45:35.000 The actual headline is gay porn star services moguls. 0.98

00:45:37.000 But who's the Bohemian Grove? 0.99

00:45:38.000 The conservative pantheon?

00:45:40.000 The conservative senate?

00:45:42.000 Bush Justice Department official and Berkeley law professor John Yoo argues that no law can restrict the president in his role as commander-in-chief.

00:45:50.000 Thus, once the president is at war, even a vague open-ended war on terror, Bush Justice Department says the president is free to undertake any action in pursuit of war, including the torture of children, And he didn't mention the... I mean, imagine you being up on the stage in front of thousands of people in Chicago debating a fightin' Irish professor, and the professor says, well, you wrote that you can torture people's children in front of them and crush their testicles. 0.94

00:46:14.000 And you say, yes, the president can do that. 0.92

00:46:17.000 I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer, then, is okay, folks, including the torture of children and indefinite detention of American citizens.

00:46:24.000 The Commander-in-Chief role is probably sufficiently elastic to expand any crisis, whether real or fabricated.

00:46:31.000 This has the U.S. 0.96

00:46:33.000 arrived at the verge of a dictatorship.

00:46:35.000 Again, thus the U.S.

00:46:37.000 has arrived at the verge of a dictatorship.

00:46:39.000 This is a development that has little to do with Bush, who is unlikely to be aware that the Constitution is experiencing its final rending or its death on his watch.

00:46:53.000 America's descent into dictatorship is the result of historical developments and old political battles dating back to President Nixon being driven from office by a Democratic Congress.

00:47:06.000 There is today no constitutional party.

00:47:08.000 Both political parties, most constitutional lawyers and the Bar Association are willing to set aside the Constitution whenever it interferes with their agendas.

00:47:19.000 Yeah, the National Bar Association says abolish juries, folks.

00:47:23.000 Just type that in to Google.

00:47:25.000 Last place I saw it was Chicago Tribune.

00:47:28.000 Americans have forgotten the prestigiousness for freedom and the prerequisites for freedom. 0.56

00:47:36.000 And those pursuing power have forgotten what it means when it falls into the hands of dictators.

00:47:44.000 Americans are very close to losing their constitutional system and civil liberties.

00:47:49.000 It is a paradox that American democracy is the likely casualty of a war on terror that is being justified in the name of expansion of democracy.

00:47:59.000 Now I would just add the reason I babbled through a few of those is sometimes I print stuff and it prints and cuts off the last word so I was having to imagine at the end of each sentence What the word was.

00:48:12.000 So, a few times I would imagine it incorrectly and then read the rest of the sentence and figure out what the word really was.

00:48:17.000 So that's why you'd hear me say one word and then go back and say another.

00:48:20.000 I tell ya, I don't know how a website, sometimes even our own website, we format it right and I hit printer friendly up there and it just doesn't matter.

00:48:29.000 Side issue.

00:48:30.000 I'm not the best news reader to begin with, but nobody can read something when it's like that.

00:48:36.000 But still, very informative, and a lot of that wasn't what Roberts had said.

00:48:39.000 I was stopping and adding historical references to all of it.

00:48:43.000 Let's go to some calls.

00:48:43.000 Burton in Louisiana.

00:48:45.000 Go ahead, Burt.

00:48:46.000 How you doing, Alex?

00:48:46.000 Good, sir.

00:48:47.000 Good show.

00:48:47.000 Look, I was watching History Channel last night, and they said that Lincoln was the biggest dictator that we ever had.

00:48:54.000 Some of the things that they showed, Bush is doing the exact same thing that Lincoln did, but that's not why I'm calling.

00:48:59.000 Wait a minute, they were advertising that because Bush is saying, because Lincoln arrested Governors, Congressmen, I mean, the leaders in Illinois... It cuts newspapers down and arrests... Yeah, hundreds and hundreds of newspapers that suddenly it's okay and that Bush may do that!

00:49:20.000 Yeah, this was on Discovery Channel last night.

00:49:22.000 They literally said he was the biggest dictated president we ever had.

00:49:27.000 And by the way, he gave multiple speeches where he said that it was not about slavery and that he did not want to free black Americans.

00:49:34.000 And I'm against slavery, folks, and against what happened. 0.95

00:49:36.000 But I'm just telling you, Lincoln was a fraud.

00:49:39.000 But I'm going to add something.

00:49:41.000 So was the South.

00:49:43.000 You see, in every one of these issues we face, most people think it's either or.

00:49:48.000 No, it was both.

00:49:49.000 The globalists are masters.

00:49:51.000 Now, I'm not saying the South didn't have real grievances or real problems.

00:49:55.000 And it was about the unfair tariffs and industrialization of the North, and the scams on the South in their agriculture, and who would control Western expansion.

00:50:06.000 But the British government, the bloody British, and we fought two separate times, 1812 and of course 1776, They came in and paid, and paid off the South, and antagonized the whole thing.

00:50:18.000 So it was a larger plan to put us into shambles, but go ahead.

00:50:27.000 I'll tell you what, stay there.

00:50:29.000 article said 20,000 members.

00:50:31.000 Now what I'm trying to get to is I'm from Chicago originally, and you got the Latin Kings with another 50,000 members, the Disciples with another 30 or 40,000 members, and I think it constitutes numbers.

00:50:44.000 A gang is constituted at 500 members or less.

00:50:47.000 I'll tell you what, stay there.

00:50:49.000 It constitutes armies.

00:50:50.000 It doesn't constitute gangs.

00:50:52.000 Stay there.

00:50:53.000 I want you to be able to finish up Bert, then John, Michael, Mark, John, everybody else.

00:50:57.000 Your calls are coming up.

00:50:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:53:56.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

00:54:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:54:12.000 For those that don't know, MS-13 has had bounties on Border Patrol and other police for at least five years, I'm aware of.

00:54:20.000 They've killed quite a few.

00:54:22.000 Last year on the border on our side, 15 dead cops.

00:54:27.000 But it's kept real quiet, and anybody who even tries to go down there with binoculars and call police when these drug dealers and human smugglers come across.

00:54:36.000 Bush has called them evil vigilantes.

00:54:38.000 They've been demonized.

00:54:40.000 The feds have been down there trying to set up good Americans, black, white, Hispanic, it doesn't matter, who just go down there and try to defend us. 0.76

00:54:47.000 And then, yeah, there's hundreds of thousands of these different Latin American gangs here in the US who were given liberation theology by their founders who all came out of universities.

00:55:02.000 And it's the same thing written up by the big money men in Washington.

00:55:04.000 That's why they always win.

00:55:05.000 They're very slick. 1.00

00:55:07.000 You know, this is your country, the whites are all evil, take over. 1.00

00:55:10.000 But those gangs ought to ask themselves then, why is all this big money funding you? 0.99

00:55:15.000 Why are they behind it?

00:55:16.000 You're just being set up.

00:55:17.000 You're going to lose in the end, don't worry.

00:55:19.000 But in your destruction, they'll even use that as, you know, for more of the police state crackdown.

00:55:24.000 But then the illegal aliens will just keep pouring across. 0.93

00:55:27.000 So, it's all very sophisticated.

00:55:29.000 Burt, go ahead and finish up.

00:55:31.000 What I want to know is why this government keeps considering gangs when they're actually armies and you're not supposed to assemble another army in the United States of America.

00:55:41.000 Isn't there something in the Constitution that we should assemble a mercenary or missionary army here and take over these folks or what?

00:55:49.000 I mean, we've got to fight and get our country back.

00:55:51.000 These gangs are taking over.

00:55:53.000 Well, that's the thing, you see, though.

00:55:54.000 It's perfect, because they predominantly speak Spanish, so no one knows it's going on.

00:55:59.000 No one can read the billboards that openly announce it.

00:56:02.000 Hundreds, what, 600 plus in L.A.

00:56:04.000 saying L.A.

00:56:04.000 is Mexico, and who put it up?

00:56:07.000 The white owner of the TV network.

00:56:10.000 I'm one of them.

00:56:10.000 You see, but Bernie, notice that.

00:56:12.000 See, notice who's behind it.

00:56:14.000 Empires always want to play us off against each other, and your point is well taken. 1.00

00:56:18.000 We're hearing we've got to live under a microscope, not have any rights, have Viper teams shake us down at the mall, federal troops, but the border's going to be wide open and we're going to let gangs kill cops.

00:56:30.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:56:31.000 And don't worry your kid.

00:56:32.000 Your kid though, because it was a school shooting in 99, the schools are going to be total prisons.

00:56:37.000 What is it about keeping your kids safe?

00:56:39.000 It's about turning the kids into little federal brainwashing camps. 0.98

00:56:43.000 And so again, the government isn't worried about a real war zone that the State Department admits is more dangerous than the West Bank of Israel.

00:56:50.000 South Texas, in the border region, is more dangerous than areas of Israel. 0.62

00:56:56.000 Well, what I'm trying to get to is, isn't there something in the Constitution that says that you're not allowed to assemble Other armies in the United States of America?

00:57:05.000 Well, I mean, there are... Sir, there are hundreds of federal laws that say that these corporations can't steal $6 trillion.

00:57:12.000 I keep saying $3 trillion.

00:57:13.000 That was years ago's number.

00:57:14.000 $6 trillion from the Pentagon pension funds.

00:57:18.000 Everything's gone now.

00:57:19.000 They've just stolen everything.

00:57:20.000 We're not talking about the people of America.

00:57:22.000 Why don't we realize this?

00:57:23.000 Because we've learned to be jellyfish and wait for the government to do it.

00:57:27.000 And the government's our mommy. 0.99

00:57:29.000 The opposite of what America's supposed to be.

00:57:31.000 Okay, and another thing, look Alex, I live here in Louisiana, I went down to Katrina down there, and let me tell you what's going on down there.

00:57:37.000 I went down there last week.

00:57:39.000 You've got these salesmen going in to sell these jobs, they're selling the jobs for a minimum amount of money, and they're making sure they sell the jobs so they get a commission, and then the owners are taking the other money, and what you have left down there as workers, and I swear to you, is crack heads, And crystal meth heads doing the job.

00:57:58.000 The jobs are so horrible that the people are just up in arms down there.

00:58:04.000 I want to quote you also.

00:58:06.000 I hear you.

00:58:06.000 I appreciate the call.

00:58:08.000 Actually, Halliburton hired tens of thousands of illegal aliens publicly.

00:58:13.000 Bush even changed the law with an executive move.

00:58:16.000 Remember where they don't have to verify employment?

00:58:19.000 And then Halliburton even ripped off all the Mexicans and wouldn't pay them. 0.97

00:58:24.000 And just in the news, yeah, we hired illegals and we're not going to pay them. 0.98

00:58:27.000 We're the government.

00:58:28.000 We're Halliburton.

00:58:29.000 We kidnap children.

00:58:31.000 Really, you didn't hear about that in the Chicago Tribune about Halliburton involving the child kidnapping too?

00:58:35.000 Yeah, mm-hmm, they're real nice.

00:58:36.000 It's called criminals taking over.

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00:58:49.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:03.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 The global overlords are beating the drum.

00:59:17.000 Mucho grande big time to invade Iran. 0.95

00:59:22.000 WWE has changed to WWE.

00:59:23.000 government suppressing their population in mass riots and the police are shooting and beating people to death.

00:59:28.000 We'll get into that.

00:59:29.000 Sybil Edmonds, NSA whistleblower, is coming up later in this hour.

00:59:33.000 Wide open phones right now.

00:59:35.000 Let's go back to your calls.

00:59:36.000 John in New Jersey.

00:59:37.000 Go ahead, John.

00:59:38.000 WWF changed to WWE.

00:59:39.000 There was a court case between the World Wrestling Federation and the World Wildlife Fund.

00:59:44.000 Okay, so you're mad that I'm talking bad about wrestling or what's this call about?

00:59:49.000 You said that you like in Like in the global elite, how they set up like a wrestling match.

00:59:55.000 And you mentioned WWF, but they changed their name to the World Wrestling Entertainment or something.

01:00:03.000 Okay.

01:00:04.000 I really don't follow it.

01:00:06.000 The whole point is that politics at the national level is staged like so-called pro wrestling, yes.

01:00:14.000 Also, what happened with John Joe Gray?

01:00:18.000 He said you sold out on him.

01:00:20.000 I read an article on the Internet.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, it's just totally untrue, all of it, total fantasy.

01:00:24.000 I mean, I heard you were selling green cheese from the moon.

01:00:28.000 That has as much validity.

01:00:29.000 Thank you.

01:00:30.000 Thank you for the call, John.

01:00:31.000 That was really nice.

01:00:32.000 And I noticed that you also are really up on pro wrestling, so that's a good thing.

01:00:39.000 And, again, I can get those calls every few weeks, you know.

01:00:43.000 And Answer for the fact that you're the head of Scientology!

01:00:47.000 Because there's a 56-year-old man named Alex Jones who is a PR person for him.

01:00:53.000 And, no, if you want to believe I'm a 56-year-old man and the head of Scientology, go ahead.

01:00:58.000 Okay, I am.

01:00:59.000 Good.

01:01:00.000 And I run around wearing a pirate's outfit, robbing caravans in Saudi Arabia.

01:01:07.000 And I'm from Pluto.

01:01:08.000 And people say, well, you need to answer this.

01:01:12.000 I mean, consider the sources. 0.96

01:01:14.000 The sources of the people saying stuff about me, either they're co-intel pro who just constantly lie about everyone or they're nuts.

01:01:22.000 And so it's like, you need to answer this!

01:01:24.000 I have answered that stuff.

01:01:26.000 Just total, total fantasy, total theater.

01:01:31.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:01:31.000 I mean, I can just hear it in your voice.

01:01:33.000 John, I'm not trying to be mean, but you just sound like a simpering buffoon. 0.95

01:01:38.000 I mean, I don't mean to be mean, it was just WWE. 0.97

01:01:41.000 I was like, okay, well, what else?

01:01:44.000 I think you've called before.

01:01:46.000 Michael in Denver, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:01:48.000 Thank you for tuning in.

01:01:49.000 First-time caller, long-time listener.

01:01:52.000 Thank you for tuning in.

01:01:53.000 I love your show, and God bless you richly.

01:01:56.000 I truly mean that.

01:01:57.000 Thank you, sir.

01:01:57.000 Just in regards to the gentleman who called yesterday, I am from New York originally and spent a lot of time in New York City.

01:02:08.000 And I usually listen to you for all of my stuff, but I went on to the Power Hour, which led me to the 9-11 eyewitness.

01:02:19.000 Dot com.

01:02:21.000 And I got that video, and if he doesn't think there were bombs in that building, I don't know how big his crack pipe is, but that's pathetic, because just on the site itself, 911eyewitness.com, and I hate plugging anything that's not yours.

01:02:41.000 Oh, I don't ever mind when people plug things.

01:02:43.000 I don't like it.

01:02:45.000 Is it the same caller?

01:02:45.000 I'll call every week and do the same thing, just a plug for their website.

01:02:49.000 No, I just truly want people to learn the truth.

01:02:54.000 I got this video, and this gentleman set up his camera on a tripod, and you can actually hear and see the dust and the bombs going off, and he puts a size... I mean, it's just an incredible video.

01:03:10.000 It's incredible.

01:03:12.000 Well, I appreciate that information, but I would just add to all of this that the caller yesterday who doesn't think 9-11 was an inside job at any level He was just trying to push my buttons, and I let him push my buttons.

01:03:28.000 I mean, I guarantee you that guy didn't work where he said he worked, and that guy wasn't being... He was being disingenuous, and he was claiming that I'd said things I hadn't said, and it just didn't matter to him.

01:03:40.000 And so, at the end of the day, you know, that's really what happened there.

01:03:42.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:43.000 We'll talk to Michael and Mark and Brett and many others when we get back.

01:03:46.000 I mean, the official story is a complete fraud.

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01:06:51.000 Big Brother.

01:06:59.000 Mainstream media.

01:07:01.000 Government cover-ups.

01:07:03.000 You want answers?

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01:07:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:15.000 We've got Sybil Edmonds, NSA whistleblower, joining us.

01:07:21.000 She's been barred from telling us what she discovered, but She's able to, quote, talk about other cases.

01:07:28.000 She'll go, well, you know about the classic cases of the CIA being caught shipping in drugs out of Southeast Asia?

01:07:34.000 Well, that's what I'm not allowed to talk about.

01:07:36.000 Well, you know the cases of organized crime being involved in the government?

01:07:39.000 Well, that's what I'm not allowed to talk about.

01:07:43.000 You know the cases of the government kidnapping children?

01:07:45.000 Well, that's what I'm not allowed to talk about.

01:07:47.000 She admittedly worked at the NSA, and they had her covering up all these NSA intercepts.

01:07:52.000 See, the government gets snooped on by itself, one hand not knowing what the other's doing.

01:07:57.000 Because most of the government isn't evil.

01:07:59.000 I mean, just average people.

01:08:01.000 It's those key compartments, though, that are in control.

01:08:04.000 And so she was told to go cover up pre-911 intercepts of specific attacks that were coming.

01:08:12.000 Of course, she was picking up their own op. 0.74

01:08:15.000 And she refused to go along with it.

01:08:18.000 And along with many others.

01:08:19.000 So this is key information.

01:08:23.000 It's a cornucopia of info.

01:08:25.000 So we'll see if we can cover even the tip of the iceberg with her.

01:08:28.000 But that's in 30 minutes.

01:08:30.000 I need to get into the Iran-Iraq situation.

01:08:32.000 I desperately need to get into all this huge stack of stuff.

01:08:35.000 But let's rampage through your calls now.

01:08:37.000 People have been holding long enough.

01:08:39.000 Mark in Atlanta, Georgia.

01:08:41.000 You're on the air, Mark.

01:08:42.000 Welcome.

01:08:43.000 Yes.

01:08:44.000 I've been looking forward to talking with you for a while.

01:08:46.000 You were mentioned.

01:08:49.000 I was at a John Birch meeting last night.

01:08:52.000 And they mentioned that, you know, I was wondering about getting, we need to get more of a network, we need to get people together on this in terms of setting up links and getting people informed about what's going on.

01:09:05.000 I mean, you understand that there's been a change in the management, the top level management of the John Birch Society recently.

01:09:14.000 How did that happen?

01:09:15.000 Because I know they've gotten very staid and very molasses-like, and so many of their members wanted to get active and grow and do things, and it seemed that was always stifled, and so I'm encouraged to hear about the change.

01:09:30.000 What is the major change?

01:09:32.000 I'm ignorant on the particulars.

01:09:37.000 Well, I'd like to give you the particulars.

01:09:40.000 On the 31st there will be a conference here in Atlanta.

01:09:43.000 That I'm planning on attending.

01:09:45.000 I paid real money for it.

01:09:46.000 The only thing I have is some silver eagles.

01:09:50.000 I gave some silver eagles to my chapter leaders.

01:09:52.000 I said, please take care of this because the bank has really screwed me over recently.

01:09:58.000 Anyway, the thing is that when I get more information, I'll be happy to concur with you.

01:10:03.000 My calling is the religious aspect of the New World Order.

01:10:07.000 My personal calling is, in Act 1826 it is written, They explain the way of God to him more adequately.

01:10:14.000 And if you look at this in context, it refers to Apollos, a learned man with a thorough knowledge of scripture.

01:10:19.000 My personal concern is that the vast majority of people that profess to be Christians have been told basically a half-truth, so that they don't know what it really means to be called to take up the cross.

01:10:39.000 And I hope to send you a copy of my Gospel Presentation CD, where it's really tough love.

01:10:44.000 It gets into the things that usually get left out for fear of, you know, if you're going to scare somebody away with the truth, then they wouldn't have been saved anyway.

01:10:51.000 That's basically my point of view.

01:10:52.000 Well, I know the modern churches say everything's going to be fine, it's going to be a gravy train, submit to the government, never stand up against anybody, and the entire Bible is the complete opposite of that.

01:11:05.000 And then there's these others that take the cost of discipleship and put a big minus sign on it with like the word faith movement thing.

01:11:12.000 They're going to be crying peace and safety.

01:11:15.000 That's my real concern.

01:11:16.000 The New World Order has really taken over the churches in America and you're absolutely right about that. 0.95

01:11:22.000 Listen, send me some info Mark.

01:11:24.000 I appreciate your call.

01:11:27.000 I've got to hurry through these calls here so everybody gets a chance to get involved.

01:11:32.000 Yesterday I talked about half-truths.

01:11:34.000 The fake Judas Goat conservatives.

01:11:38.000 I mean, you don't think the globalists are going to take over without having frauds.

01:11:40.000 They've got to have...

01:11:42.000 People out there, they know a lot of you aren't going to buy into open borders, world government, total taxation, total regulation from a Democrat.

01:11:51.000 But if a Republican gets put in, they can do even more than the Democrats do historically on average, in the aggregate.

01:11:59.000 And conservatives will then defend big government policies.

01:12:03.000 Now, of course, it's not conservative at all, but people just don't care.

01:12:09.000 They get caught up in labels, kind of a rah-rah, like it's sports or football or something.

01:12:15.000 But I talked about half-truths just yesterday.

01:12:24.000 I discussed how These fake conservative talk show hosts will go, we've got to do something about immigration, the Mexican gangs are killing people, more cops have been killed, the borders shut down to tourism, it's so dangerous, but the borders still wide open to the smugglers of humans and drugs. 0.99

01:12:42.000 We've got to get behind President Bush's plan The dumb Democrats, they're blocking it! 0.88

01:12:48.000 But those talk show hosts know the Democrats wrote the amnesty plan that's now being repackaged, and Bush says it's not amnesty. 0.92

01:12:55.000 Well, it is amnesty!

01:12:57.000 The biggest amnesty ever!

01:12:59.000 Amnesty for six and a half million plus people that they're saying will be eligible, and then for years and years, anybody who wants to come here will be legal.

01:13:09.000 Instantly, when you touch the ground, when your plane lands, I mean, forget anchor babies, where people come here and have babies so they can then get, you know, on five different types of welfare and have more kids and become, you know, legal themselves.

01:13:22.000 This is where they can bring in skilled workers, unskilled workers, at unlimited levels.

01:13:28.000 You think the limited levels have been bad?

01:13:30.000 Try unlimited.

01:13:32.000 But people will debate with me who don't have the facts.

01:13:34.000 I just heard, you know, the Sean Hannity's of the world tell them I mean, I've heard Sean Hannity actually say, we've got to do something about illegal immigration, we've got to stop the Democrats from blocking President Bush's plan.

01:13:47.000 But it's a Democratic plan!

01:13:49.000 Hannity knows that! 0.98

01:13:52.000 It's the same thing with vouchers.

01:13:55.000 They come in and say, don't you deserve a choice?

01:13:58.000 In public schools, you know, especially in failed schools. 0.52

01:14:01.000 Shouldn't these poor black kids be able, or poor white kids, or poor Hispanic kids, be able to go to a better public school with a school voucher? 0.90

01:14:07.000 Or a private school? 0.97

01:14:09.000 And yes, I'm for that.

01:14:11.000 I think public schools are inherently state-controlled and bad.

01:14:14.000 Historically.

01:14:15.000 I'm not knocking individual teachers and people that have held the system together despite that.

01:14:20.000 But I'm against the federal government using our money to then take over all the private schools.

01:14:26.000 Which is what vouchers are actually doing. 0.81

01:14:30.000 Same thing with faith-based initiative.

01:14:32.000 The government can't be involved in that.

01:14:33.000 There's so many things.

01:14:35.000 You know, you hear this big push by fake conservative talk show hosts who've been well-paid and PR money and are out promoting their big books.

01:14:43.000 You see it everywhere.

01:14:47.000 The fair tax movement sounds good.

01:14:51.000 The problem is they're going to give us a 23 percent sales tax And they're going to keep the income tax, and that's been the official plan for a decade.

01:14:59.000 They're going to cut the income tax, rename it, change that basic tax system, so you'll have a flat tax of 10%, and then they'll jack that up, and a starting sales tax of 23%, that will then bring federal control into every single terminal, every single cash register, every single shopping cart.

01:15:20.000 And it's a globalist plan, and I've seen their think tanks pushing it since I learned of it a decade ago.

01:15:25.000 And now it's starting to come to fruition and Bush is mentioning it and saying it'd be a good idea.

01:15:31.000 Oh, if Bush is saying it, do you think it's a good idea?

01:15:34.000 Come on, boys and girls.

01:15:36.000 But again, it's half-truths.

01:15:38.000 Half-truths sound good, they taste good, they feel good, but they're poison.

01:15:45.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in California.

01:15:50.000 Chris, thanks for holding.

01:15:52.000 Hi, Al.

01:15:53.000 Hi.

01:15:53.000 Hi, I'm in Sacramento.

01:15:55.000 About two blocks, actually, from the Capitol.

01:15:59.000 You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

01:16:01.000 But I wanted to talk about, you had that guy from the CIA on last week or so.

01:16:06.000 And I wanted to, I saw this show on 60 Minutes.

01:16:12.000 And they were doing a story about how someone could infiltrate, you know, chemical plants.

01:16:19.000 And what they said at the end, they had a CFR guy come on there.

01:16:23.000 And he said, what we need is someone who can head up, you know, all the intelligence agencies.

01:16:28.000 And then this John Negroponte guy all of a sudden is like the director of all 15 agencies.

01:16:34.000 Who ran the death squads in Latin America and set up the death squads in Iraq.

01:16:39.000 And his name, of course, means death.

01:16:41.000 And we are just in a lot of trouble having people like him running things.

01:16:46.000 Yeah, and I wanted to, you know, the next time you have a CIA person on there or something, you know, one of these intelligence people, say, you know, what do you think this Why is this guy in charge?

01:16:54.000 Harmitage, all of them, are really scary, scary, scary people. 1.00

01:17:00.000 Yeah, and then, you know, and also I saw in one of your articles on the, um, about the CFR, where it said, um, hold on a second, where... Well, while you're finding it, let me just say this.

01:17:17.000 You know, we always talk about how the CFR quote runs things, and the media makes jokes out of it.

01:17:22.000 Five years ago, you never saw people say they were CFR on television.

01:17:26.000 They just were CFR, and we all carry little maps with us with all their names, and we can open the chart up and go, yep, he's CFR.

01:17:33.000 I mean, have you heard somebody on the nightly news go, world government's what we need, or gun control's what we need, or getting rid of our borders is what we need, or more cameras is what we need.

01:17:43.000 Every time, it's CFR.

01:17:46.000 And even their public book that they put out every two months called Foreign Affairs is, world government's good, getting rid of our borders is good. 1.00

01:17:53.000 I mean, there's no conspiracy theory about it.

01:17:56.000 These guys are letting it all hang out, but go ahead.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, there was something about on the Charlie Rose Show, and that's a total forum for CFR people.

01:18:06.000 He always has people on there, and Jim Lehrer reports, he always has CFR people on there.

01:18:14.000 On the Charlie Rose Show, it said something in your article about where the head, the new head of the CFR was like, well now we can put people in, you know, the New World Order is now.

01:18:24.000 We can put our people in there.

01:18:26.000 And it's like all these people, Condoleezza Rice, Dick Cheney, they're all members.

01:18:32.000 I know, 2,600 people and they're just the foot soldiers.

01:18:36.000 And you've got trilateral with just a couple hundred.

01:18:38.000 They're all the chief economists of the world, heads of banks, major banks.

01:18:43.000 And then you've got the Bilderberg Group, a hundred people.

01:18:46.000 And the politicians actually come in and kneel before them.

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01:23:04.000 Let's hurry through the calls.

01:23:05.000 David in Montana, you're on the air.

01:23:07.000 Welcome.

01:23:07.000 Welcome to Montana.

01:23:09.000 It's great to hear you appear, Alexis.

01:23:12.000 It's about time we got you up here.

01:23:14.000 I want to say that terrorism is being used as a cattle prod to corral nations. 0.69

01:23:19.000 If you look what happened to Poland after World War II, the way Russia took over Poland, they said there was terrorists there, they had to take it over.

01:23:27.000 Ivan the Terrible regained his power through the Black Riders. 1.00

01:23:31.000 Same thing.

01:23:33.000 And Iran will be invaded because it's the only peace. 1.00

01:23:37.000 of the puzzle left to be placed in the reopening of the old silk trail.

01:23:42.000 You can't run a global government without that old silk trail being opened up again.

01:23:48.000 Well, you know what you're talking about.

01:23:49.000 That's what Brzezinski, the National Security Advisor, said, is that they've got to get Iraq, Afghanistan, and then Iran.

01:23:57.000 If you look, those three countries border each other, and there's also trillions and trillions of dollars of oil in each Only three empires were able to keep that open.

01:24:07.000 Alexander the Great, the Romans, and then really those were the only two that really kept it open.

01:24:12.000 Folks, the same people stealing their oil are stealing our freedoms.

01:24:16.000 Go ahead.

01:24:17.000 Only three empires was able to keep that open.

01:24:22.000 Alexander the Great, the Romans, and then really those were the only two that really kept it open.

01:24:31.000 The rest of the time, the Arabs were charging tolls.

01:24:36.000 That's why Columbus had to go the other way.

01:24:38.000 They were tired of fighting them people.

01:24:40.000 And I'm just saying, as a people, the way we could avoid it is just don't participate.

01:24:48.000 You know, we have to get businesses just to buy at home, build at home, get And just don't participate, because the only way it could exist is participation.

01:25:00.000 No, I hear you.

01:25:00.000 What station are you listening to us there in Big Sky Country?

01:25:04.000 KGEZ 600.

01:25:05.000 We just picked you up yesterday, and it's so good there, man.

01:25:08.000 It's really good.

01:25:09.000 Well, tell that new affiliate that we're very thankful, and I'm also cutting some promos for them.

01:25:14.000 They should be getting soon a lot of new stations coming on board.

01:25:18.000 But listen, It might have been radical to put us on 5-10 years ago, but frankly now, everything we talk about is mainstream.

01:25:25.000 It's just that we still put it all together for people in one place.

01:25:30.000 And so it is exciting to have all these new stations turning us on, and I really appreciate your call, David.

01:25:35.000 Anything else?

01:25:37.000 Just power to the people, and just don't participate, and if you do participate, add the American twist to it.

01:25:46.000 Because we're up to our necks in this globalism.

01:25:48.000 We really can't do nothing about it.

01:25:50.000 We've got to hit it head on.

01:25:51.000 I agree.

01:25:53.000 Listen, I agree.

01:25:53.000 It's time to stop playing games and to stop mincing words.

01:25:57.000 I appreciate those things you said, because David knows what he's talking about. 0.99

01:26:03.000 But unfortunately, for so many Americans who, again, aren't stupid, they're just distracted. 0.97

01:26:09.000 They're experts on fashion or sports. 0.98

01:26:15.000 Or on their sports cars, they're experts on, you know, basically culinary things, eating.

01:26:23.000 But they're not experts on their form of government or on history.

01:26:27.000 And frankly, folks, history is amazingly entertaining.

01:26:31.000 It's exhilarating, it's scary, it's exciting.

01:26:34.000 And then once you know history, you're not doomed to repeat it.

01:26:37.000 And so I wish the average American was informed like David.

01:26:41.000 And think about Iran.

01:26:42.000 What has Iran done to us?

01:26:45.000 I mean, I don't want to live over there.

01:26:46.000 I don't particularly like their government.

01:26:48.000 But it's nothing compared to North Korea, nothing compared to China. 0.92

01:26:52.000 They're not mowing down whole villages in Iran right now like they are in China.

01:26:56.000 They're a lot more free in Iran than they are in China.

01:27:00.000 Why?

01:27:00.000 Because they won't play ball.

01:27:03.000 And our own government admittedly carried out terror attacks there to cause what we now see today.

01:27:08.000 Did you know that our government carried out attacks and blamed it on innocent people?

01:27:14.000 On Mozadek, and now we have the mess we have today.

01:27:17.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Hartwell in Louisiana.

01:27:20.000 Hartwell, go ahead.

01:27:21.000 Yes, I have two questions on the Twin Towers.

01:27:24.000 The first one is, what method was used to detonate the charges in the buildings?

01:27:30.000 Was it radio frequency or were they wired?

01:27:34.000 Well, sir, you know, this is the problem with a question like that.

01:27:38.000 I think it's a good question.

01:27:40.000 We know the official story isn't true.

01:27:42.000 We know they told us that there was no prior knowledge.

01:27:44.000 Now it's a fact that there was prior knowledge and they've lied about it.

01:27:47.000 We know Bin Laden was CIA.

01:27:49.000 We know the supposed hijackers were government agents trained at U.S.

01:27:52.000 bases all over the country and being protected.

01:27:55.000 We know public officials were told not to fly.

01:27:57.000 We know from the seismographs, the eyewitnesses, the firefighters, the engineers, and the video of the bomb blast that there were controlled demolitions inside the building.

01:28:06.000 Were they on timers?

01:28:07.000 Were they remote controlled?

01:28:08.000 I don't know!

01:28:10.000 I mean, you know.

01:28:10.000 I mean, look.

01:28:12.000 Here's the analogy.

01:28:12.000 It's like the police catch a killer.

01:28:17.000 And he's got a dead woman in his car with 20 knife wounds there.

01:28:20.000 And they even find a video of him kidnapping her, but not a video of him killing her.

01:28:24.000 And he'll never talk.

01:28:25.000 He'll never tell, you know, where did you stab her first?

01:28:28.000 Well, you know, why'd you decide to stab her? 1.00

01:28:30.000 We know the piece of trash stabbed her. 1.00

01:28:32.000 We know he did it. 1.00

01:28:33.000 We've caught him on a hundred points.

01:28:35.000 So there might be four or five points we can't figure out.

01:28:38.000 C'est la vie.

01:28:39.000 Got a guest coming up, but if you want to stay there, I'll answer your question more after she's gone.

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01:31:52.000 They railed against the crowd with another ragtag band declaring independence.

01:32:14.000 They take their body's hands on a bloody wall.

01:32:20.000 And she was working with the FBI with all these NSA and CIA intercepts and wiretabs.

01:32:25.000 And she was going back Post 9-11 to pre 9-11 intercepts and the story first broke when they were asking her to basically whitewash things.

01:32:35.000 And then now to even try to tackle all the things that she's talked about, all the things that she has pointed people at, it just fits in with all the other intel I've had.

01:32:43.000 You know, we've had FBI agents on, we've had David Shippers on representing Robert Wright, FBI, who was told he'd be arrested.

01:32:50.000 He got up on C-SPAN and said, I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know.

01:32:54.000 And then Larry Klaman steps up and says, all I can tell you is, the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens. 0.99

01:33:03.000 And then of course, what Sue Bell Edmonds will do is she'll say, well, I can't really talk about the things I know, because they threatened her with arrest, but now they've had to kind of back off because it's all public now.

01:33:13.000 But it's kind of like Vietnam where the government was bringing in drugs, or it's kind of like organized crime involved.

01:33:19.000 You know, in this case, So, we're going to be talking to her for 45 minutes, the balance of this hour and about 20 minutes into the next hour, but I want to start out with about a minute and a half clip of her with Daniel Ellsberg at the Pentagon Papers.

01:33:34.000 The Village Boys shot some video of her just having lunch on the street there, and we'll go ahead and roll this little clip and then go right to Cybele Edmonds.

01:33:43.000 Stay with us.

01:33:45.000 And I came to this point that I realized, many people out there, either within the Congress or within the Commission, the attitude is, they don't want to know the truth.

01:33:54.000 Like, see no evil, hear no evil.

01:33:56.000 As long as we don't hear it or see it, we're safe.

01:33:58.000 So I wanted to find out who wants to hear the truth.

01:34:02.000 Because we're not talking about issues that have to do with Somebody was incompetent and they missed a single call.

01:34:11.000 We are looking at much deeper issues that in certain cases were prevented from being pursued.

01:34:19.000 For example, I can't talk about the parts that I know about, and that is the list of witnesses, special agents, okay, be it with the FBI or ATF, and other translators who have come to us, to me, to family members, and their names and their contact information has been given to 9-11 Commission, and we can establish that these people were never contacted.

01:34:42.000 And more people come forward, which we have been having people coming forward, not to the public, but to me.

01:34:48.000 And they say, OK, I have information.

01:34:49.000 Where do you take these people?

01:34:50.000 You can't take them to 9-11 Commission.

01:34:52.000 You can't take them to the Congress.

01:34:53.000 They don't do anything.

01:34:54.000 And you can't take them to the Inspector General's office.

01:34:57.000 They are not independent.

01:34:58.000 And my report has been blocked for three years.

01:35:00.000 Where am I going to take these people?

01:35:02.000 This is an issue that these people are really afraid of.

01:35:05.000 They are being scared.

01:35:06.000 I mean, look, if Ashraf is willing to go publicly gagging the Congress, publicly, imagine what he is doing that we are not hearing about.

01:35:16.000 If publicly he's gagging the Congress, what is he doing behind closed doors then?

01:35:21.000 You know, the warning they gave you from Congress.

01:35:24.000 If Sibelo keeps bothering us and keeps pressing us like this, we'll regard her as a pet.

01:35:31.000 You'll lose friends.

01:35:32.000 This is exactly what... Let me tell you something.

01:35:34.000 If she continues pressing us like this, I'm going to place pressure.

01:35:37.000 She ain't going to make any friends here. 0.90

01:35:39.000 She's not making anything but enemies.

01:35:41.000 We don't like to be pressured.

01:35:42.000 They know that for every piece that they will try to attempt to do with lies and scaring, I will put out one thing in there that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.

01:35:51.000 So have them be my guests.

01:35:54.000 Alright folks, so there's that particular clip and of course we're joined by Sabelle Edmonds. 0.58

01:36:00.000 Sabelle, it's great to have you on with us.

01:36:02.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:36:04.000 Thank you for inviting me.

01:36:05.000 You bet.

01:36:06.000 You know, some people don't know who you are, but most of our listeners out there probably know that you're one of the better known or probably the best known whistleblower, but we never got to learn that much specifically from you because they threatened to clap you in irons if you didn't shut up.

01:36:21.000 Then you went and tried to jump through hoops and tried to testify to the 9-11 whitewash commission and to the congressional folks as well.

01:36:28.000 Nothing really ever came out of that.

01:36:31.000 They never released any of that to speak of.

01:36:33.000 I want you to go over that, but really I want to boil it down, because you've talked about the organized crime.

01:36:39.000 You discovered that you're not allowed to discuss, but now we see people going to jail for $800 million they stole, congressmen.

01:36:46.000 I talked to you last week on the phone.

01:36:48.000 It's now been in the Village Voice.

01:36:49.000 It goes right up to Dennis Hastert.

01:36:52.000 I mean, we're talking about just an incredible thing here, and I'd like you today, I know everybody says this, but I think this is a good place for you to do it, to go further than you ever had before, because I think, frankly, if we don't get it all out there on the table, we may end up in an actual dictatorship.

01:37:07.000 More and more people I really respect, from Ron Paul, to Paul Craig Roberts, to Ray McGovern, are saying we may actually be in a dictatorship soon.

01:37:18.000 So, Cybele, thank you again for joining us.

01:37:22.000 Run through it for people, just the basics, who you are, as much as you can tell us about your particular case, and then if you can't specifically talk about things you discovered while going through these intercepts, give us examples that are already declassified, things that are comparable.

01:37:39.000 Okay, that's a loaded question.

01:37:41.000 You have put about 15 questions in one.

01:37:43.000 I'm well known for that, yes.

01:37:45.000 I'll start by telling a little bit about myself.

01:37:48.000 Currently, I'm the founder and the president of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition.

01:37:53.000 We are a non-profit organization, and our members are national security whistleblowers from the intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

01:38:02.000 And these agencies include FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, Department of Homeland Security and also DEA.

01:38:14.000 Currently we have over 70 national security whistleblowers members and the average years of experience for our members is about 20 years, actually 21 to be exact.

01:38:24.000 So we are looking at veteran agents and analysts from these agencies who have come forward Trying to point out to wrongdoings, government waste, fraud, abuse, or in some cases, criminal activities.

01:38:40.000 And for doing the right thing, for doing this, they have been retaliated against.

01:38:46.000 Like myself, many of them have been gagged, or they have been fired.

01:38:51.000 So this is what our organization does.

01:38:54.000 We are trying, and I'm emphasizing the word trying, because we haven't really succeeded yet.

01:39:00.000 In getting the Congress to actually pay attention to the issue of national security whistleblowers, provide them with protection.

01:39:09.000 Because without these people, Congress has no way of knowing... Without these people, we're going to end up with a dictatorship.

01:39:16.000 Specifically...

01:39:18.000 Exactly.

01:39:19.000 Specifically, things are out of control.

01:39:22.000 I mean, when an FBI agent gets up on C-SPAN and starts crying, and says, I've been threatened with arrest if I tell you what I know, and then his lawyer steps up and says, all he can say is, the Bushes, vacation, with the Bin Ladens. 0.81

01:39:34.000 I mean, that's an exact quote.

01:39:35.000 We've got it somewhere on the computer.

01:39:37.000 Sumel, let's go back to your awakening.

01:39:40.000 I mean, you were hired post 9-11 to go in, check all these interception things.

01:39:45.000 I mean, when did you start to question, or what were you seeing?

01:39:49.000 Actually, I started questioning and pointing out to serious cases, some of them involved intentional blocking of intelligence translations.

01:40:00.000 Some of them involved intentionally withholding certain investigations that were under counter-intelligence from being transferred to counter-terrorism because they should have been transferred.

01:40:13.000 They had information that's related to the terrorist activities and other criminal activities.

01:40:20.000 Some of the issues involved certain security breach acts occurring within the FBI.

01:40:29.000 So I started reporting these cases together with documents and other witnesses in the department.

01:40:36.000 Within two months after I started working for the Bureau, around November-December 2001, And I want to emphasize internally, because a lot of people, they think whistleblowers are those who just see some wrongdoing, they jump on the street, and they start going... No, you are getting in trouble for even going to your superiors.

01:40:56.000 Correct.

01:40:57.000 I started with my superiors, then I went to their superiors, and in fact, I went all the way up the chain, all the way to Director Mueller himself in the FBI, within the FBI headquarters.

01:41:10.000 And, uh, initially they were asking me not to pursue this.

01:41:14.000 And, uh, in return they offered to give me a raise for my hourly rate.

01:41:22.000 They also sent me a commendation letter recommending for a special agent position, which I have, uh, with the FBI.

01:41:29.000 And, uh, when I did not cease, uh, continuing reporting these issues, in about February 2002, They, they being the FBI, accused me of reporting these issues to the Congress via email.

01:41:45.000 And at that time, Alex, I was not.

01:41:47.000 I was trying to address these issues internally.

01:41:49.000 So they sent several agents to my house, to my private house, to my private residence.

01:41:55.000 And they confiscated my home computer, which happened to be my husband's computer too, because we share the same computer.

01:42:01.000 And they confiscated the computer They took it apart to look for these so-called emails from me reporting to the Congress and of course I was not doing that.

01:42:13.000 But they didn't find anything.

01:42:15.000 We know now, though, they may have thought it was you when it was somebody else.

01:42:18.000 We now know there were Army colonels that were talking to Congress.

01:42:22.000 We now know there were a bunch of other people who were mad just like you were because they really wanted to stop terrorists.

01:42:28.000 You see, Bush gets up there and says, I gotta spy on all of you and send the Army out to spy on peace groups and land rights groups.

01:42:36.000 Folks, I've had the Army spy on me publicly.

01:42:38.000 I mean, this is eight years ago.

01:42:39.000 So this is widespread.

01:42:41.000 This is institutionalized.

01:42:43.000 It has nothing to do with that.

01:42:44.000 Really, the NSA was catching the chatter of impending terror attack, and Bush signed W1999, and he said to the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, you don't touch this or you're going to jail.

01:42:57.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:42:58.000 Right.

01:42:59.000 So they didn't find anything, and two weeks later they forced me to take a polygraph exam.

01:43:06.000 And during the polygraph exam, they kept asking, have you taken these issues to the United States Congress?

01:43:11.000 Have you discussed this outside the agency?

01:43:14.000 Well, I passed the polygraph without a glitch.

01:43:16.000 But that was the last straw for me.

01:43:18.000 I decided I'll help.

01:43:20.000 Meanwhile, meanwhile, Sabel, meanwhile, there's headlines nationwide of government had prior knowledge, NSA knew, but Bush and Condi were out jumping around saying, we never heard anything.

01:43:31.000 Sorry.

01:43:31.000 Correct.

01:43:33.000 So that was a turning point for me.

01:43:34.000 I decided, okay, this is the time to go to the Congress, to the appropriate committee, which is the Judiciary Committee, with the Senate, because the Senate Judiciary Committee has the oversight of the FBI, Department of Justice.

01:43:47.000 They've got total security clearances.

01:43:49.000 They're already accusing you of something you haven't done, so you're going to try to up the ante.

01:43:53.000 So I went to these people within the committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee.

01:43:58.000 I briefed their staff who had clearance.

01:44:00.000 I went inside the security facility and gave them documents.

01:44:04.000 And about two weeks after that, I was terminated without any reason being cited.

01:44:10.000 In fact, the letter I received from the Department of Justice said Your contract is being terminated as of this date purely for the convenience of the government and whatever that means.

01:44:22.000 So I was terminated on March 22nd.

01:44:27.000 Now Sabel Edmonds, this is a long story then of what happened, and certainly you've been winning this fight, but I specifically want to get into some articles I've read and some things I've heard you talk about on air.

01:44:36.000 Let's get right into the nitty-gritty of this, because now the things you've quietly talked about are now in the news.

01:44:43.000 Congressmen stealing $800 million, fake defense contracting companies, Dennis Hastert connected into all of this.

01:44:50.000 Because I remember you two years ago talking about, well, I can't tell you specifically what I saw, but it's like this case with government drug dealing.

01:44:57.000 It's like this case with, well, it's like DynCorp coming out in Chicago Tribune, kidnapping masses of children, white slavery.

01:45:06.000 I mean, get into specifically some of the things that elements of this government are now doing and don't want us to know about.

01:45:15.000 Well, bits and pieces of information, as you just pointed out, have been coming out.

01:45:21.000 And this is from reporters, investigative reporters.

01:45:24.000 Well, let's start with the recent Vanity Fair article.

01:45:28.000 When I say recent, it came out in August 2005.

01:45:31.000 And the Vanity Fair article, this was an article on my case and on me.

01:45:36.000 And this article, based on the sources inside the Congress and inside the FBI, confirmed That Dennis Hazard was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash.

01:45:50.000 Illegal cash.

01:45:52.000 Delivered to him for bribery purposes from certain foreign lobbying organizations.

01:45:58.000 And they named at least two of those organizations.

01:46:02.000 And again, their sources were congressional sources and sources within the FBI.

01:46:06.000 Now, of course, we have the Duke out in California.

01:46:08.000 $800 million in scams.

01:46:11.000 He's already pled guilty to that.

01:46:12.000 Correct.

01:46:14.000 And the fact that they named some of these organizations.

01:46:17.000 And Alex, people have been telling me, well, why don't you put some information out there?

01:46:23.000 But they should ask themselves, what are they doing with the information that is already out there?

01:46:28.000 That article came out and so far we have not had a single denial issued by the Department of Justice.

01:46:33.000 That's the thing about this now.

01:46:35.000 People say, you know, Bush is now declaring he has the right to violate any law he wants and to spy on the American people and the media focuses on little bitty teeny things like Foreign calls into the U.S.

01:46:47.000 when publicly it's going on, domestically against political enemies, declassified.

01:46:51.000 I mean, why aren't they going, is Bush allowed to spy on his political enemies?

01:46:56.000 That's admitted.

01:46:57.000 He should be impeached and indicted right now for that.

01:47:00.000 But you're right, Cybele.

01:47:02.000 That's totally ignored.

01:47:04.000 Correct.

01:47:04.000 And not only with the media.

01:47:06.000 I think people should take the responsibility for this, too.

01:47:09.000 The death of outrage by people.

01:47:12.000 So, this Dennis Haspard story came out, a 10-page article with all the sources from the Congress.

01:47:17.000 What happened?

01:47:18.000 Nothing.

01:47:19.000 Other articles have... Well, Sabel, you've also... I mean, just to digress, you've talked about, in the past, about how it's this shadowy mix of organized crime and government and contractors.

01:47:30.000 I mean, I've heard you speak of that.

01:47:32.000 Can you specifically, you know, without getting into classified stuff you saw, kind of give us some other real-world examples?

01:47:39.000 Because, go ahead.

01:47:40.000 Correct.

01:47:41.000 As I said, some pieces of information have come out in the press.

01:47:44.000 The same media that you're saying is not putting this information out, it has come out.

01:47:48.000 And one of the organizations, again, as I was talking about... Well, Sabal, by that, I mean, to clarify, it'll come out in one newspaper, but it won't get national traction where tonight on CNN, you know, George Bush has the Pentagon watching local mothers' groups.

01:48:04.000 I mean, you know... Well, Alex, I disagree.

01:48:05.000 I think it would if there was enough public pressure.

01:48:08.000 Obviously, we don't have enough people putting the pressure on the media. 0.93

01:48:13.000 After all, the media responds to this whole law of supply and demand, okay?

01:48:18.000 And if there are, you know, there's public outrage out there, if there are, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions... Well, Sabella, there was... I mean, I'm not trying to argue with you.

01:48:27.000 I mean, I agree that we have power, but, I mean, take the Pentagon Papers.

01:48:32.000 We've tried to get traction.

01:48:33.000 The grassroots has had giant demonstrations, and I haven't seen one-tenth the coverage that should have gotten.

01:48:39.000 The Downing Street Memo.

01:48:43.000 Right.

01:48:44.000 But again, I'm saying if we don't have enough people, if you look at the recent polling and it says that 49% of people find nothing wrong with this illegal eavesdropping, that also answers that question.

01:48:58.000 So you have those who don't respond, then you have 49% who don't care and they're saying this is just fine.

01:49:04.000 Well, I don't believe that poll.

01:49:05.000 I don't believe that poll.

01:49:06.000 I've seen some other polls that contradict that.

01:49:09.000 Well, again, that depends on who is doing the posters, who is in charge of the posters.

01:49:13.000 That's correct.

01:49:14.000 We've got a break.

01:49:15.000 When we come back, what are some of the other things you want to get into?

01:49:18.000 Because this is very informative.

01:49:21.000 This is extremely informative.

01:49:22.000 What are some of the other things you want to talk about when we get back?

01:49:25.000 Sure.

01:49:26.000 I mean, I'm just curious from you, what are some of the other issues?

01:49:28.000 Well, I'm here to answer your questions.

01:49:30.000 I'm here to talk about several issues, from national security whistleblowers to the facts that are being covered up, and we'll cover them as you ask them.

01:49:39.000 Great.

01:49:39.000 I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is, when we get back, we'll talk about what you think is most important.

01:49:46.000 Stay with us.

01:49:47.000 We'll be right back with Sabel Edmonds.

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01:53:07.000 Many political pundits and experts have noted that Sabel Edmond's case is the most gagged case in U.S.

01:53:17.000 It's gone up before the neocon Supreme Court that likes to appoint presidents.

01:53:17.000 history.

01:53:21.000 I'm not for the Democrats, folks.

01:53:23.000 I'm just pointing out that we really do have an appointed president.

01:53:26.000 And it's just really, really scary what's happening.

01:53:29.000 So we'll go back to Cybele in just a minute.

01:53:31.000 She's going to be with us into the next hour, and there's a lot of other facets we're going to cover.

01:53:35.000 And perhaps we'll even have time to open the phones up for a call or two, if it's specifically for our guests.

01:53:39.000 But before we go back to Cybele Evans and give you her website and other information, we want to know what really happened on 9-11, what the globalists are planning.

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01:54:33.000 Cybele, tell us about your own personal website.

01:54:37.000 Sure.

01:54:38.000 It is www.JustAirCitizen.com.

01:54:43.000 www.justacitizen.com.

01:54:46.000 That is a great domain.

01:54:49.000 Now we would think that you would have free speech, but why are you the most gagged individual in modern U.S.

01:54:56.000 history?

01:54:56.000 What are they so afraid of?

01:54:59.000 I know you can't specifically talk about the gag, but what are some other things they've been afraid of in the past that have gone public?

01:55:05.000 Right.

01:55:06.000 As you know, the past Attorney General, John Ashcroft, who happens to be a lobbyist today.

01:55:11.000 He just started his lobbying firm in Washington, D.C.

01:55:14.000 about six months ago.

01:55:16.000 Actually, he's the only Attorney General in the United States history doing that.

01:55:20.000 So that's just a sideline.

01:55:22.000 Invoked this rarely invoked state secret privilege, gagging my case.

01:55:26.000 And later he went and gagged the Congress.

01:55:28.000 Officially gagged the United States Congress.

01:55:31.000 And two reasons, he cited.

01:55:32.000 Reason number one, to protect certain diplomatic relations of the United States.

01:55:39.000 By the way, I don't want to glaze over that.

01:55:40.000 That is unprecedented to have the executive gag the legislative when the legislative, clearly even under a Federalist view, supersedes the executive in its powers.

01:55:51.000 Go ahead.

01:55:52.000 Exactly, Alex.

01:55:53.000 And in fact, other organizations, even government agencies, came out and said that gag order on Congress was illegal.

01:56:00.000 But our Senators are Republicans.

01:56:02.000 They're more than happy to follow it to set the precedent.

01:56:05.000 They followed an illegal gap order. 0.79

01:56:08.000 And this is Senator Grassley, Senator Leahy, Democrat and Republican.

01:56:12.000 So this is what happened.

01:56:14.000 And he started two reasons.

01:56:16.000 sensitive diplomatic relations and certain sensitive U.S.

01:56:16.000 U.S.

01:56:20.000 foreign business relations.

01:56:22.000 Without indicating what those sensitive U.S.

01:56:25.000 foreign business relationships were.

01:56:27.000 And that goes to the heart of why I have been gagged and why this case has been gagged.

01:56:32.000 And I'm going to quickly make an analogy here.

01:56:35.000 Let's say you have this so-called war on drugs.

01:56:38.000 Okay, Alex?

01:56:39.000 And you have this unwritten policy that says that you only go after the low-level, street-level drug dealers and you will not touch the middlemen and those people on the top.

01:56:50.000 Well, they have been following the similar unwritten rules with the investigations of this terror case, with the September 11th terror attack.

01:56:59.000 And that is, intentionally, and I want to underline, intentionally, they are not going after the middleman and the people on top.

01:57:07.000 So to this day, the American public, they have not heard The real culprit behind 9-11, the money laundering and certain narcotic and illegal weapon procurement involved with some of these actors who happen to be the middle man and the top people in the game.

01:57:25.000 Stay there, Cybele.

01:57:26.000 FBI, NSA, whistleblower.

01:57:28.000 We'll be right back with a third hour.

01:57:30.000 Stay with us.

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01:57:39.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 I really want to thank our courageous guest for her amazing courage.

01:58:13.000 A wonderful lady, very intelligent and informed, and also not bad to look at. 1.00

01:58:19.000 One of the guys that works here wanted me to say that to her.

01:58:23.000 But just a great person, Cybele Edmonds.

01:58:26.000 And she, of course, worked for the FBI with these NSA and CIA intercepts, overseas intercepts, domestic intercepts, ran into just all sorts of horrible things, and tried to complain inside her agency.

01:58:40.000 They raided her, tried to burn her, then she went to Congress. 0.99

01:58:43.000 And many others have now gone public backing up what she has said, and her case has gone to the Supreme Court.

01:58:48.000 If she says one thing they don't like, they'll try to clap her in irons, but let's see them try that. 0.99

01:58:53.000 You know, that'll really turn the public against them, and the good news is people are waking up.

01:58:58.000 So that is good news.

01:58:59.000 Sabelle Edmonds is our guest.

01:59:00.000 We're about to break here in just a few minutes again, but Sabelle, to continue Now, why are you the most gagged in modern U.S. 0.99

01:59:08.000 Why did the Supreme Court throw out your case, obviously when it had merits?

01:59:08.000 history?

01:59:12.000 What are they so afraid of?

01:59:13.000 And you go, well, government drug dealing.

01:59:17.000 I mean, everybody knows that.

01:59:18.000 I've had family that's seen it.

01:59:19.000 I've had people that have witnessed it.

01:59:20.000 We've had so many DEA people on, and the head DEA agent for Latin America.

01:59:25.000 I've interviewed CIA agents, Terry Reid, who were there unloading the cocaine at Mina, Arkansas, with Bill Clinton driving up, getting his own personal supply.

01:59:34.000 I mean, it's admitted with Oliver North, all of them.

01:59:38.000 And so it's all public.

01:59:40.000 And now I have congressional hearings with Cynthia McKinney and Rumsfeld.

01:59:43.000 She goes, well, what about 200,000 women and little children being kidnapped by DynCorp and our government?

01:59:49.000 And he goes, well, I don't deny it, and, you know, nothing's going to happen.

01:59:53.000 So, I mean, really, a lot of this stuff's out in the open.

01:59:55.000 But please continue, Sebel.

01:59:57.000 Sure.

01:59:58.000 It's one thing to point out that these things have macro-level government involvement, but That's overgeneralizing it, because you have elements... You mean criminal elements within certain compartments of government?

02:00:09.000 Or people who work with government.

02:00:11.000 Again, it's not right to just macro-level say, it's government.

02:00:15.000 Well, you know, George Norrie always corrects me when I say that, but I'm just... I'm not going to let the government get around it.

02:00:20.000 The point is, is the government's gotten rotten and corrupt, and it's pockmarked and full of worms, basically.

02:00:29.000 Well, again, as I said, there are certain elements.

02:00:32.000 And some of them are outside the government who work closely with the government.

02:00:36.000 But regardless, they're being protected.

02:00:39.000 Well, they are being protected because, as I said, these elements are involved with different branches of government.

02:00:45.000 And these articles that have come out, that have pointed out, you know, you see certain links between organizations, lobbying organizations like AIPAC and American Turkish Council, ATC, And also American-Turkish associations with millions of dollars that they play with.

02:01:04.000 Where does this money come from?

02:01:05.000 Who does it go to?

02:01:07.000 And to ask and pose the questions that way.

02:01:11.000 And to give a good example of this, for culprits who are involved in the cases that I am trying to bring to the public's attention, or I've tried, and so far I have been gagged, a very good The next lobbying firm to look at is International Advisors, Inc.

02:01:30.000 International Advisors, Inc.

02:01:33.000 started in 1996-1995 by Richard Perle and Douglas Bight.

02:01:37.000 They registered with the Department of State as agents of Turkey, okay?

02:01:43.000 Although they were doing things for Pakistan and also for Saudi Arabia and to a certain degree for Israel, And International Advisors Bank, headed by Richard Perle and Douglas Spice, with no website, no services listed, have been playing with millions of dollars.

02:01:59.000 And so these are architects of the Iraq invasion, meanwhile registered as agents of foreign governments, running around with bags of cash.

02:02:07.000 Correct.

02:02:08.000 And not only that, Alex, it's also the fact that That all roads lead to Rome.

02:02:15.000 Because when you deal with APAC issues, you're dealing with the same culprits involved with my cases that I'm gagged on.

02:02:22.000 When you deal with... You're saying it's a nexus?

02:02:25.000 Absolutely.

02:02:25.000 Well, stay there.

02:02:26.000 We've got a long segment coming up.

02:02:26.000 We've got a break.

02:02:28.000 Our final segment with Sybil Edmonds.

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02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:56.000 I'll tell you, I'm like an octopus or something.

02:06:10.000 Ever seen those cartoons where the octopus is cutting somebody's hair with one tentacle and mowing the yard with the other and cooking dinner with another and smoking a cigar with the other and...

02:06:21.000 Doing accounting with the other.

02:06:23.000 I was doing like three things during the break and Terry Anderson calls in with his big national anti-immigration talk show.

02:06:28.000 It's a pretty good show.

02:06:30.000 And he's like wanting to get set up for this show.

02:06:31.000 Want me on his show.

02:06:32.000 And I'm doing that coming into the break.

02:06:34.000 It's just crazy.

02:06:35.000 So sometimes we sound like we're flying around by the seat of our pants.

02:06:38.000 It's because we are.

02:06:39.000 But isn't that what you want?

02:06:41.000 You don't want scripted, fake, Establishment dribble.

02:06:45.000 People don't want to hear that anymore.

02:06:46.000 Well, believe me folks, you're listening to it unscripted, with all the rough edges.

02:06:52.000 I'm Alex Jones and this is Real Talk Radio.

02:06:55.000 Real issues of real significance that actually affect you and your family.

02:07:00.000 And it isn't about left or right, it's about right and wrong, my friends.

02:07:04.000 And Cybele Edmonds is with us, worked at the FBI.

02:07:08.000 They offered her payoffs, big agent certificates in jobs if she just shut up. 1.00

02:07:13.000 And she just said no.

02:07:15.000 I mean, she got all these intercepts of all this criminal activity that she's been gagged from talking about.

02:07:19.000 So we're just talking about other examples of it.

02:07:23.000 Weapons dealers, narcotics dealers, white slavery. 0.66

02:07:25.000 That's all public now.

02:07:27.000 We can talk about those instances, and Sabelle can discuss them.

02:07:31.000 Sabel, I mean, you've gotten into Dennis Hastert and how it's in Vanity Fair with the reports of him and all these payoffs.

02:07:37.000 We have different congressmen going to jail now for stealing $800 million plus.

02:07:43.000 They're admitting mainstream news and it affects a bunch of senators, a bunch of congressmen, but somehow none of them are now getting in trouble.

02:07:50.000 Is this good news to you, though, that at least some people are getting in trouble and it looks like their wall of corruption, the scales on the belly of the dragon, may have some soft spots, Cybill?

02:08:05.000 I would say let's wait and see.

02:08:07.000 I'm still curious to see how this is going to end and what kind of accountability we are going to see at the end of this story.

02:08:14.000 So the story hasn't ended yet.

02:08:16.000 And as you know, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

02:08:20.000 And people should be looking at, and also you're looking, when you come to Washington D.C., you're looking at all the revolving doors.

02:08:27.000 Even when they are disgraced, even when they get out, they don't really get out.

02:08:31.000 I'm going to give you one good example that people need to look into.

02:08:35.000 And again, the same company that is involved among the companies that I just named, and that is Livingston Group.

02:08:43.000 Livingston, Bob Livingston used to be the Speaker of the House, and he was disgraced.

02:08:48.000 He got out.

02:08:49.000 And now he has this large lobbying firm, and I would invite your listeners to go to his website and see his top clients.

02:08:56.000 He's charging $1,200,000.

02:08:58.000 He's charging Turkey.

02:09:01.000 And this is not the government of the Turkey, Turkish Republic.

02:09:04.000 This is, who are these people?

02:09:07.000 Or paying this man $1,200,000 a year to do what?

02:09:11.000 That's the question.

02:09:13.000 Yes, and for stations that didn't carry the last segment, you went through some other examples of Richard Perle and other architects of the war who worked in the Pentagon simultaneously being registered agents of foreign governments.

02:09:27.000 Now, I mean, that's openly illegal on its face.

02:09:30.000 You can't be a registered agent of a foreign government and then have a high-level administration position.

02:09:37.000 Alex, are you telling me?

02:09:38.000 In fact, the complaints were filed by Pentagon, by the Department of Defense in 1998 by several organizations pointing out exactly what you just said.

02:09:49.000 Guess what happened?

02:09:50.000 Nothing.

02:09:51.000 Oh, I bet they got fired.

02:09:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:54.000 You bet.

02:09:55.000 You know, I mean, I want cops, you know, the average cop listening out there.

02:09:58.000 This is publicly verifiable.

02:10:00.000 The average judge listening.

02:10:01.000 We have people openly engaging in crime.

02:10:04.000 Right.

02:10:04.000 I mean, we've got all these dual citizens.

02:10:06.000 You talked about AIPAC.

02:10:07.000 Admitted dual citizens who are riddling the administration, riddling the Congress, riddling top positions. 1.00

02:10:16.000 Absolutely right.

02:10:16.000 Right.

02:10:17.000 And even those with only single citizenship, not with dual citizenship.

02:10:24.000 That's for people who aren't even American citizens. 0.63

02:10:25.000 Well, when it comes to money, you will see that a lot of loyalties will disappear, and the loyalty becomes the money and money.

02:10:33.000 Well, here's another example.

02:10:34.000 Right here in Texas, a large part of Rick Perry's administration, the governor, are actual registered Mexican citizen lobbyists.

02:10:44.000 And he actually hires the lobbyists and they actually run things at the Capitol.

02:10:49.000 Folks, I'm not kidding.

02:10:50.000 It's mainstream news.

02:10:52.000 I believe that.

02:10:53.000 I mean, this is just... We're totally being taken over.

02:10:56.000 Right.

02:10:57.000 We are.

02:10:58.000 I mean, it's just by Washington.

02:11:00.000 It's cheap.

02:11:00.000 So, here's an example.

02:11:03.000 That's why our founders repeatedly said eternal vigilance.

02:11:07.000 Because you can't say, well, we have separation of powers, we have our Constitution, we have our Bill of Rights.

02:11:12.000 They're going to take care of itself.

02:11:15.000 No, it does take eternal vigilance.

02:11:17.000 That's why you have your radio show, right?

02:11:20.000 Because you're trying to point out to these criminal activities, these un-American practices on our behalf, by our government, I would say by all three branches or elements within each branch of the government.

02:11:36.000 And hopefully more and more people will get to listen and wake up and hear the wake up bell.

02:11:41.000 Well, it should scare everybody when a government goes bad.

02:11:44.000 It's the most dangerous thing in history.

02:11:46.000 And these evil people that are in the government are really trying to get total control and perfect a perfect despotism upon us.

02:11:53.000 But I want to bring up another point to you.

02:11:55.000 Did you see the Chicago Tribune, two articles three weeks ago?

02:12:01.000 Where the Governor even had to come out and decry the Defense Department.

02:12:08.000 Where, admittedly, DynCorp and Halliburton are running white slaverings all over Europe and in the Middle East.

02:12:15.000 From using men as slaves they grab out of villages just to build houses, to small children they kidnap for other reasons.

02:12:22.000 And it talked about how there are top lobbyists on the Hill openly lobbying the Congress To not block the Pentagon from allowing this to go on.

02:12:33.000 I mean, you talk about lobbyists for criminals.

02:12:35.000 We have lobbyists openly lobbying for white slavery.

02:12:39.000 And it's not Alex Jones or Sabel Edmonds saying that.

02:12:41.000 It's the Chicago Tribune and the Governor of Illinois.

02:12:45.000 Well, let's get that on Fox News.

02:12:49.000 You will not see much reaction unless you get this into the mainstream media, Alex.

02:12:54.000 But does that tie into any of the other areas that you were aware of?

02:13:00.000 No, not at all.

02:13:01.000 This is the first time I'm hearing about this.

02:13:03.000 I need to go and check and look for accuracy.

02:13:05.000 I don't know anything about that.

02:13:07.000 Believe me, it was in the Chicago Tribune.

02:13:10.000 Did you hear that out of the Chicago papers about John Yoo, one of the chief advisors to Bush, just like Gonzalez, our new Attorney General was, saying the President is authorized to torture even people's children.

02:13:22.000 Right, I read that.

02:13:24.000 So you did see that?

02:13:25.000 Yeah.

02:13:25.000 And then he got asked about it in Chicago in front of 2,000 students and he said, yeah, the President has the power to do that to children and crush their body parts.

02:13:35.000 Well, correct.

02:13:36.000 These people, they don't believe in American democracy.

02:13:39.000 In fact, they are saying Constitution is nothing but something that's inconveniencing us.

02:13:44.000 So let's get rid of it and put it on a hanger.

02:13:48.000 And let's use the fear factor and say, you know what?

02:13:50.000 The terrorists are out there.

02:13:51.000 They're trying to get us.

02:13:53.000 And I point out to what the President said right after 9-11.

02:13:56.000 He came out and he told the American public, he said, What they hate is the way of life we are leading here.

02:14:03.000 They hate the way of our lives.

02:14:05.000 He said they hate our freedom, and why is Bush trying to kill our freedom? 0.98

02:14:08.000 Because he is the terrorist.

02:14:10.000 Well, for the past three years, it hasn't been the terrorists, but it has been this administration.

02:14:15.000 But it's true.

02:14:15.000 When the government says the terrorists hate our freedom, it's true.

02:14:17.000 It's true.

02:14:18.000 It's true.

02:14:19.000 The terrorists are the people running this government, and they do hate our freedom.

02:14:22.000 So in a weird way, he's telling the truth.

02:14:25.000 Right.

02:14:26.000 People went out there and they voted.

02:14:29.000 And that is unfortunate that this is what we are getting as a result of that.

02:14:34.000 Well, I mean, Kerry's for invading Iran.

02:14:36.000 Kerry's for the same... That's what I'm saying, you know.

02:14:39.000 And again, people, they determine.

02:14:40.000 I mean, where are the true leaders who really want to get up and say, you know, enough is enough and let's get our country back?

02:14:48.000 Unfortunately, today, these elections and everything depend so much on money.

02:14:53.000 Then the people that you get, your choice is Kerry or is Bush.

02:14:57.000 And neither one of them would have my vote.

02:14:59.000 We get the government we deserve and we've disengaged from government.

02:15:02.000 Things have gotten corrupt and decadent.

02:15:04.000 They always do.

02:15:04.000 Now we've got to re-engage.

02:15:06.000 Cybele Evans, I totally agree with you.

02:15:07.000 JusticeCitizen.com is the website.

02:15:10.000 Links on InfoWars.com.

02:15:11.000 I've got a few final questions for you.

02:15:13.000 And again, I'm so honored that you've spent this much time with us already.

02:15:16.000 Going back, just You know, over the last three or four years since you went public, we're forced to go public because they wouldn't fix the problems inside when you try to do it through channels.

02:15:26.000 Talking to other whistleblowers, other people in government who haven't gone public yet, I would imagine you have talked to a lot of them.

02:15:32.000 Have you talked to any of the FBI agents that have been threatened with arrest?

02:15:36.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:15:37.000 Well then, tell us some of the things they've said to you.

02:15:41.000 Alex, I mean, that will take an entire show to go through those.

02:15:45.000 And if you go to our website, and that will be our organization's website, which is www.nswbc.org, we provide a lot of information about these cases.

02:15:56.000 And unfortunately, the Congress has had this information, and they keep giving it to the Congress, you know, and they are not doing anything.

02:16:04.000 That's why, now that you pointed out to my website, justicecitizen.com, We just started a petition there asking for citizens to sign up, saying that we demand open congressional hearings.

02:16:17.000 And I'm emphasizing open, because all the hearings on my case have taken place behind closed doors, under classified hearings.

02:16:24.000 But open public hearings... And then you tell them what you know.

02:16:27.000 That then makes them accomplices.

02:16:29.000 They promise to go public, but they never do.

02:16:31.000 So that's why we need the citizens to come and sign these petitions.

02:16:35.000 Currently we have about 14,000 signatures.

02:16:37.000 We won't be able to get anywhere with that.

02:16:39.000 We need hundreds of thousands of signatures.

02:16:42.000 So I encourage your listeners to go and sign on to this petition, which is on the website www.justacitizen.com.

02:16:49.000 Cybele, we're almost out of time here.

02:16:52.000 I know your case has been rejected by the Supreme Court.

02:16:56.000 Should we be looking for any fireworks here in the future?

02:16:59.000 Are you getting any intel that more scandals are about to break?

02:17:03.000 Well, yeah.

02:17:04.000 They never end, but that's the reason I want your listeners to sign this petition, because You will hear much more when we start pursuing the Congress with these signatures and saying it's not one citizen or hundred citizens asking this.

02:17:16.000 We are talking about hundreds of thousands if not millions of people asking for this.

02:17:21.000 And then hopefully we'll get the information out.

02:17:23.000 Alright, well Sabel Edmonds, thank you again for joining us and I hope to get you back up in the future as things develop.

02:17:29.000 Godspeed.

02:17:30.000 I've got some comments about all of this when we get back.

02:17:36.000 Concerning Bill Clinton, Al Gore, how it ties into Bush.

02:17:39.000 We want to stay with us for that and then we're going to take your calls and cover the Iran situation after that.

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02:21:55.000 George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, George Jr., they're all in business together.

02:22:07.000 At that level, it's totally staged.

02:22:08.000 They all take vacations together and hang out, and the Bush family calls Bill Clinton their surrogate son, and he calls Barbara his mother.

02:22:17.000 When he goes back to MENA, Clinton was a known intelligence officer and was running the drugs in and out of there for the crime families, going back from even the time before he became governor.

02:22:29.000 He was involved in it.

02:22:31.000 And so, right at the key point where there's this big police state and the NSA and the rest of this, Al Gore comes out and says, you're destroying the Constitution.

02:22:40.000 You're setting up a despotic dictatorship.

02:22:43.000 Well, see, if Bush's approval rating is down at 35%, Actually having a Democrat attack him will polarize, and a lot of Republicans that were starting to wake up, I mean a lot of Republicans are against Bush when he's at 35%, suddenly you see his numbers start going back up to 40, 45%.

02:23:01.000 Because everybody knows Al Gore is bad news, so if Al Gore is coming out and attacking, then see George Bush must be good.

02:23:10.000 And all of this is just a legitimizing of the spying.

02:23:13.000 Did you notice they talk about the least thing?

02:23:15.000 Oh, some foreign phone calls of the US.

02:23:17.000 Now it's in the back of the newspaper that the NSA is watching the mothers that complain about recruiters at the high school and the army sends out regular army to spy on citizens and all of this is going on nationwide for decades.

02:23:32.000 So they tell you about the least thing that sounds legitimate.

02:23:36.000 To condition you to accept it. 1.00

02:23:38.000 And then the so-called conservatives, or really fake conservatives, can go, look, Al Gore's a hypocrite! 0.99

02:23:43.000 So that makes it okay that Bush is doing it. 0.99

02:23:47.000 So now they can defend the spying as if it's somehow conservative.

02:23:52.000 And again, they'll have the Democrats come out and say, we're against the National ID Card, how dare you, Bush!

02:23:57.000 And then out-vote Republicans in the Senate.

02:24:00.000 Or, 93 to what?

02:24:04.000 Five and a few abstentions.

02:24:06.000 People that didn't vote.

02:24:08.000 Over and over again, they'll have a big chicken fight.

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02:24:18.000 It's good cop, bad cop.

02:24:20.000 For people who don't believe that slick politicians that have climbed their ways up to committee chairmanships don't engage in theater, I mean low-level cops when they pull somebody over and want to play good cop, bad cop, they engage in theater.

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02:24:34.000 And I've had so many politicians in the chair, in the studio, or I've talked to so many over the phone line and so many in the TV station studio.

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02:25:01.000 I'm able to convince them that government education is bad, that gun control is bad, that open borders are bad, because I use the real issues, not the political football issues.

02:25:10.000 And I've got, you know, the city of Austin, literally thousands and thousands of liberals that I've met have gone out and bought guns, deprogrammed themselves, because I'm not a hypocrite.

02:25:23.000 Will they listen to one word I had to say if I was defending Bob Dole back in the mid-nineties or if I was defending George Bush today while I was attacking Democrats?

02:25:34.000 No!

02:25:35.000 I will equally attack them when they're in the wrong.

02:25:38.000 And I will praise them when they're in the right.

02:25:40.000 Like the governor of Illinois, bad on guns, good on exposing the government kidnapping rings.

02:25:46.000 So, for people, I know a lot of new stations are joining us on a daily basis, I'm just trying to get new listeners to understand my philosophy.

02:25:55.000 It's a populist view.

02:25:56.000 It's a constitutionalist view.

02:25:59.000 I look at an issue and I say, does that give me more liberty or less liberty?

02:26:03.000 Does that centralize power more?

02:26:06.000 Is that being lobbied for by corrupt interests?

02:26:08.000 And then I'm against it.

02:26:10.000 Like, all these liberals hate George Bush, but they love him with open borders.

02:26:14.000 They love the fact he loves Larry Conquista.

02:26:16.000 Well, I ask the La Raza, Larry Conquista, Takeover America's Southwest crowd, do you really think you're fighting Whitey? 1.00

02:26:24.000 Do you really think you're fighting the New World Order?

02:26:25.000 Do you really think you're fighting something when it's all financed out of D.C.

02:26:28.000 and New York?

02:26:30.000 No! 0.97

02:26:31.000 These criminals in government want to loot America!

02:26:34.000 And anything that gets us fighting with each other, they love!

02:26:38.000 I mean, let's say you're already an illegal alien who's gotten to the U.S. 0.75

02:26:40.000 You're going to stay here.

02:26:41.000 You should be against all the other illegal aliens coming in. 1.00

02:26:44.000 They're going to drive down your wages. 0.99

02:26:45.000 But again, it's a pride thing.

02:26:48.000 Oh no, we're taking over.

02:26:50.000 And I can show you the documents where the government in the 60s financed your fake liberation theology, your whole La Reconquista, La Raza Mecha garbage, and you don't even know it came out of a Madison Avenue PR campaign.

02:27:06.000 Vicente Fox has now hired a big slick PR firm out of Washington, and another one out of Dallas to run this big op, and now we're seeing their operation on the TV screens today.

02:27:18.000 It's very, very serious, folks.

02:27:20.000 It's the governments against the people.

02:27:23.000 The Founding Fathers told us that.

02:27:25.000 Common Sense shows that.

02:27:26.000 It's time to learn that.

02:27:28.000 Hartwell, Darrell, Wyatt, Stan will at least be able to take your calls.

02:27:33.000 Masses of news coming up.

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02:31:00.000 We're here, my friends.

02:31:02.000 Defending the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

02:31:04.000 I want to get into this fear-mongering piece out of the Fredericksburg Star.

02:31:08.000 Technology keeps track of kids, pets, tech options growing, evolving to keep track of children safe from dogs and other predators.

02:31:15.000 And the moral of the story is, wild dogs will eat your children if they don't have implantable microchips.

02:31:20.000 I mean, the fear-mongering is getting so ridiculous. 0.91

02:31:23.000 I want to talk about Chinese violently quell new protests. 1.00

02:31:26.000 I mean, they're on the verge of civil war there.

02:31:28.000 Their people have more of a taste for freedom than we do, folks, because they've never really had it.

02:31:33.000 And so they're standing up for it.

02:31:35.000 It's got to get dark, I guess, before people finally wake up.

02:31:39.000 And I want to give you some of the new developments with the build-up for war with Iran.

02:31:43.000 We'll also have time to take five calls.

02:31:46.000 Chris being the last of them, they'll have time to get to here in just a few minutes.

02:31:52.000 But before I do that, you know, I don't have a lot of sponsors.

02:31:55.000 I turn down sponsors, frankly, every day that approach me.

02:32:00.000 I only believe in real things that really have been proven to me personally, and for almost two years, because for some reason Marty, he was sponsoring the network, so he sent me a two-year supply, two big boxes of soap, and we used it for about a year and a half, and we used a lot of stuff that was gone.

02:32:19.000 And my wife just loved it. 0.88

02:32:21.000 She started ordering more.

02:32:22.000 She said, "Why don't you get them as a sponsor?" And I said, "You know, that makes sense.

02:32:25.000 You're already a network sponsor here on the Genesis Network, often imitated, never duplicated." And, folks, it's triple concentrated.

02:32:34.000 It's made to America since 1947.

02:32:36.000 That's getting close to 60 years, what, 58, 59 years.

02:32:39.000 It's a family-owned business, and it's made out of citrus products.

02:32:43.000 It's made out of plant products.

02:32:45.000 It's made out of vegetable products.

02:32:48.000 If you knew how deadly things like detergents were, how bad they are, how they eat your clothes.

02:32:55.000 And it even ends up costing you more money.

02:32:59.000 Then if you try to go out at the fancy organic stores, which we have here in Austin, most cities don't, to this level, you'll pay more for citrus or plant-based, vegetable-based stuff.

02:33:09.000 It works better and it's great, but it costs more than the toxic garbage.

02:33:13.000 Well, Cal Ben Pure Soap is on average about 85% less than even the mainstream toxic stuff and way, way cheaper than the expensive organic stuff, which this stuff is.

02:33:26.000 So, I mean, it's just an incredible deal.

02:33:28.000 They've got starter packs, they've got free catalogs, they've got year supplies.

02:33:33.000 You will save so much money on this, and it's non-toxic.

02:33:37.000 Your children deserve it.

02:33:38.000 It works so good.

02:33:39.000 It's been around since 1947.

02:33:41.000 And, Marty, that's a pretty good plug there for your family business, but I just believe in it.

02:33:47.000 People have got to call you.

02:33:49.000 I appreciate that, Alex.

02:33:51.000 That was a very good plug.

02:33:53.000 I've been doing this now for Oh, gosh.

02:33:57.000 59 years.

02:33:59.000 And our slogan here is, our business is going down the drain.

02:34:02.000 Well, I was just going to add, that's a pretty good plug, but it doesn't go close to telling people how good this is.

02:34:08.000 Well, we are manufacturing the product.

02:34:12.000 A question you asked me last time is, why don't I put it on the shelf?

02:34:16.000 Well, there's a word called slotting.

02:34:19.000 Most people don't know that because it's an industrial word.

02:34:22.000 Slotting means that the manufacturers, the billion dollar manufacturers... They make big agreements and muscle out and say we'll give you even lower prices if you refuse competition.

02:34:33.000 People also wonder why there's so many varieties and smells of the same thing or ten varieties of Gatorade.

02:34:39.000 It's meant to take over the shelving in slotting, right?

02:34:43.000 Well, more than that, they're leasing and renting the space, and they control the shelf space and all the markets.

02:34:50.000 Can't get in there, unfortunately.

02:34:53.000 So what we're doing, we decided we will be factory direct.

02:34:57.000 Without the middleman, without the distributor, without the jobber, without the wholesaler, without the salesman.

02:35:03.000 Now people that know buy from you, finer hotels, hospitals, people that want high quality products, and also save money, you've been around since 1947, but in the last few years, you've been going factory direct.

02:35:15.000 That's correct.

02:35:17.000 To the consumer.

02:35:18.000 Because most of our business when we got started was strictly institutional, and you know, hospitals, schools, convalescent homes.

02:35:27.000 Well I'm sorry Marty, we can't buy from you, your factory isn't in China with slaves.

02:35:32.000 No way.

02:35:33.000 We're an American company with American people.

02:35:35.000 I'm going to have to pay 85% more and get something that gives me rashes from China. 0.97

02:35:39.000 Don't need it anymore.

02:35:40.000 No, I just can't do it.

02:35:41.000 I have to.

02:35:43.000 We have pure soaps, not detergents. 0.90

02:35:45.000 Detergents are made from petroleum.

02:35:48.000 People don't know that.

02:35:49.000 And you know what the petroleum market is like?

02:35:51.000 And the smells are the perfumes to cover up the stench of the petroleum products.

02:35:58.000 You know how oil smells.

02:36:00.000 Especially reusable oil.

02:36:02.000 Especially used oil.

02:36:04.000 Well, I'll be honest with people.

02:36:05.000 You know, my hair is starting to fall out.

02:36:06.000 And I don't mind it too much.

02:36:08.000 But I've done some research online about natural ways to keep it from falling out.

02:36:12.000 And number one, the doctor's telling you start using natural soaps.

02:36:15.000 These detergent-based laurel sulfate things that are in all the big shampoos are killing your hair follicles.

02:36:22.000 That's exactly what's happening.

02:36:24.000 This is why I try to get the information Out to the consumer.

02:36:28.000 I got a special, special deal for your listeners.

02:36:31.000 Alright, give us the special deal, Marty.

02:36:33.000 How does $1.69 a week strike you for all your laundry soap, bath soap, air soap, dish soap, cleaning accessories for 208 weeks?

02:36:44.000 and eight weeks a dollar sixty nine a week multiply a dollar sixty nine by two hundred and eight weeks you come up with three hundred and fifty dollars for a four-year supply two hundred and ten pounds of triple concentrated pure soap products equal to two thousand pounds in the supermarket and And you've got everything there.

02:36:44.000 $1.69 a week.

02:37:07.000 You've got shampoos, you've got the bath soaps, you've got the stuff to wash the clothes, the soaps to wash the dishes, all of it.

02:37:16.000 That's a $1.69 a week that includes the freight, the shipping, the insurance, the handling, everything.

02:37:23.000 Delivered four big boxes, 210 pounds of pure soap products.

02:37:29.000 Will last a family of four, anywhere from four years to five years.

02:37:35.000 How much is it for a 4 to 5 year supply?

02:37:38.000 Prepare that with what it's costing you now.

02:37:40.000 Okay, how much is it for a four to five-year supply?

02:37:42.000 Pardon?

02:37:43.000 How much is it for a four to five-year supply?

02:37:45.000 Total, including everything, $350.

02:37:49.000 You know, I've seen the statistics.

02:37:52.000 About 25% of what you spend at the grocery store is on subs.

02:37:52.000 What do you spend?

02:37:56.000 The average for the supermarket is around 20% of your total groceries.

02:38:01.000 20, not 25.

02:38:02.000 Well, then my family must be different, because in the past we bought all that stuff.

02:38:05.000 It's so expensive, and so what do you spend on average?

02:38:09.000 I mean, you spend $200 a week at the grocery store, 20% of that.

02:38:13.000 Yeah, I mean, so you're talking about massive savings here.

02:38:16.000 $300 and something bucks for a five-year supply, or a four-and-a-half-year supply.

02:38:19.000 What if I want just a year The year supply we have, that's a 65 pound box of triple concentrated pure soap products, that is including the freight, the shipping, the insurance, the handling, $165.

02:38:34.000 Well folks, listen, I only promote stuff that's real and I actually sought Marty out, I guess he sought me out years ago and it was a two year delay for me to Take him as a sponsor.

02:38:46.000 I'm not bragging.

02:38:47.000 I just, frankly, at the end of the day, I care about credibility more than making a dime, so I'm not going to peddle a bunch of, you know, magic cures and stuff here on the air.

02:38:56.000 This is just good old-fashioned, real soap, organic, made out of real products.

02:39:00.000 They've got all the certificates and documents on their website.

02:39:02.000 They're not fly-by-night since 1947.

02:39:05.000 I mean, in a year or two, that'll be 60 years.

02:39:09.000 You need to call this family-owned company right there in Oakland, California.

02:39:13.000 They'll ship it out to you at my house.

02:39:15.000 You open up the cabinet in the kitchen.

02:39:18.000 It's Calvin Pure Soap.

02:39:20.000 You open up the cabinets in the laundry room.

02:39:21.000 It's Calvin Pure Soap.

02:39:23.000 You go up in my... I mean, I was in the shower this morning.

02:39:25.000 Calvin Pure Soap.

02:39:26.000 And I've got some other organic soaps and things my wife uses that she buys at the store because we always forget and aren't in the habit of ordering soap over the telephone.

02:39:34.000 Listen, they make it hard to be healthy and not get ripped off.

02:39:38.000 You'll save a lot of money.

02:39:39.000 I feel really good about this.

02:39:41.000 Go directly to them.

02:39:44.000 It's 1-800-340-7091.

02:39:46.000 800-340-7091.

02:39:46.000 If you want a catalog, call and get one.

02:39:50.000 What do they want, one of those starter packs there, Marty?

02:39:54.000 Well, the catalogs are free, which covers heavy, heavy details of what we're talking about.

02:39:58.000 Yeah, it's a nice catalog, but what about the, you can call and get a free one of those folks, but what about the, what about the little starter pack?

02:40:05.000 We've got a, what we call a one to two month package.

02:40:08.000 It's a, we call it a one month tote bag.

02:40:11.000 It's got four bars of our Pure Soap, 18 ounces of our Laundry Soap, 16 ounces of our Triple Concentrated Cocoa Butter Shampoo, and 16 ounces of our Liquid cream soap for pots, pans, utensils, floors, windows, everything.

02:40:27.000 Book of instructions.

02:40:28.000 Weighs out six pounds.

02:40:30.000 We united parcel to your door.

02:40:32.000 It's $14 plus united parcel to your door.

02:40:35.000 We take any credit card.

02:40:37.000 We take your personal check.

02:40:38.000 Alright, let me fire up that number before we run out of time.

02:40:41.000 800-340-7091.

02:40:41.000 Or I guess on the web.

02:40:41.000 It's 800-340-7091.

02:40:42.000 People can also go to the web.

02:40:43.000 7091-800-340-7091.

02:40:47.000 Or I guess on the web.

02:40:50.000 People can also go to the web.

02:40:51.000 Tell them about that.

02:40:52.000 Al, Ben, PureSoap.com.

02:40:55.000 That's C-A-L-B-E-N Pure Soap.

02:40:58.000 All one word.

02:40:58.000 CalBenPureSoap.com.

02:41:01.000 Everything's on there.

02:41:02.000 All the details.

02:41:03.000 You can see photos of the different packages, the different deals, and there's a big banner on the left-hand side of InfoWars.com to CalBenPureSoap.com or 800-340-7091.

02:41:12.000 What if somebody wants to, say, fax you an order for a free catalog?

02:41:19.000 Can they do that too?

02:41:20.000 Oh, yes.

02:41:21.000 No problem.

02:41:22.000 7... 78... Okay, it says 7091 here on mine.

02:41:22.000 And that's 510-638-7091.

02:41:26.000 I must be... No, number.

02:41:27.000 Okay, but the main number is 800-340-7091.

02:41:30.000 Thanks for coming on, Marty.

02:41:31.000 You bet.

02:41:31.000 Hey, thank you.

02:41:32.000 Okay, but the main number is 800-340-7091.

02:41:37.000 Thanks for coming on, Marty.

02:41:38.000 Hey, thank you.

02:41:39.000 You bet.

02:41:40.000 God bless you.

02:41:42.000 You bet.

02:41:42.000 Take care my friend.

02:41:43.000 And again, I believe in it.

02:41:44.000 So we spent, what, eight minutes with Marty.

02:41:46.000 And we have him on once a month, folks.

02:41:48.000 I don't normally sit here and infomercial people, but on a few items we do.

02:41:51.000 I mean, the Made in America high-quality water filters, where you save about $100 buying them to the distributor than you do buying them at the health food store or at the camping supply.

02:41:59.000 Videos, books, information to wake people up, and stuff like pure Made in America soap.

02:42:05.000 CalBinPureSoap.com.

02:42:06.000 We're going to link over at Infowars.com.

02:42:08.000 Save a lot of money and won't get ripped off, and we'll get good stuff, and won't have all that toxic stuff.

02:42:14.000 Okay, that aside, let's blast through your calls now, because I've still got to get more into some of this other news.

02:42:21.000 Hartwell called earlier in We ran out of time.

02:42:23.000 He wanted to ask a question.

02:42:26.000 Hartwell, go ahead and restate that question there in Louisiana.

02:42:30.000 I'd ask what method did they use to degnate the charges in the buildings?

02:42:35.000 That's good.

02:42:38.000 I have a second question.

02:42:39.000 Sure.

02:42:40.000 Which is, the Twin Towers were helped up by steel beams made of mild steel.

02:42:46.000 I have a chart here saying that mild steel melts at 2730 degrees.

02:42:51.000 Does that sound right to you?

02:42:54.000 Well, I'm not an expert on it.

02:42:56.000 We've interviewed the physicists and the underwriter laboratory people, and we've talked to the experts who built it, and it was built of structural hardened steel that begins to redden Uh, and weekend at 3,000 degrees, and the hottest the jet fuel can burn is 1,700 degrees.

02:43:16.000 So it's physically impossible for that to happen.

02:43:19.000 Remember last year, the Madrid building that burned for two days with 100-foot white-hot flames, and not even small supports collapsed?

02:43:26.000 Not even inch-round steel collapsed, much less the giant pillars?

02:43:30.000 Right.

02:43:31.000 And then as for how they detonated the bombs, I don't know how they detonated them.

02:43:34.000 We just know there were bombs in the buildings from the blast points and how they collapsed.

02:43:38.000 Well, I was going back to Eric Huffman's video, Painful Deceptions.

02:43:44.000 Yes.

02:43:44.000 And if I remember right, he said that the beams were made of mild steel, and that's what I was going by.

02:43:50.000 I believe the calculation is that even if you use mild steel, which I believe is weaker, it still doesn't start melting until 2700.

02:43:59.000 But those were built out of structural, hardened steel.

02:44:02.000 I see.

02:44:03.000 Well, thank you so much.

02:44:04.000 Thank you for answering my questions.

02:44:05.000 May God bless you.

02:44:06.000 God bless you, too, my friend.

02:44:08.000 Let's talk to Darrell in Florida.

02:44:10.000 I believe he wanted to talk about Sybil Evans, but we were unable to.

02:44:13.000 Go ahead.

02:44:14.000 Yeah, I wanted to talk to your guest, but I didn't... She's gone, so maybe you can answer this question.

02:44:21.000 Last night, I was listening to GCN, and I heard that they could... With the Constitution, That they could take over the government and some 800 judges that are crooked.

02:44:39.000 That we could take them over.

02:44:42.000 And is there a way that you could take them out of office with our military?

02:44:46.000 Thank you for the call.

02:44:48.000 Let me try to answer that question.

02:44:51.000 Government is not reason, it is force.

02:44:53.000 It is not eloquence, it is force.

02:44:55.000 The Declaration of Independence says that when the government becomes destructive of the things listed in that Declaration of Independence, the people's life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, property, habeas corpus, common law, it isn't just our right, it's our duty.

02:45:11.000 The problem is if we try to go physically remove this criminal government before we've told everybody it's criminal, They will be able to wrangle a lot of the military and others into following them, and that'll accelerate their takeover.

02:45:22.000 Or they could even nuke cities.

02:45:24.000 I mean, the people running things are arrogant, they're on power trips, they're dug in.

02:45:29.000 So, this is serious business.

02:45:31.000 Do we have a right to go change the government and do it?

02:45:35.000 Yes, but we need to have upstanding, informed, focused Americans who have told their case Who have methodically gone and educated other people, which is what the Founding Fathers did.

02:45:48.000 You take the Republic of Texas, and I don't mean everybody in it, but a lot of them I've met and seen.

02:45:52.000 I mean, it's power-mad ne'er-do-wells.

02:45:55.000 I mean, you know, if you've got a bass boat, you're an admiral.

02:45:58.000 If you're missing all your front teeth, you're a brigadier general.

02:46:01.000 I mean, there are no privates. 0.52

02:46:02.000 There's nothing but generals and insane people declaring them supreme rulers and writing insane letters to France saying they're the embassy.

02:46:10.000 And, you know, you have five different presidents all fighting with each other.

02:46:13.000 The Founding Fathers didn't go, we're the Presidents.

02:46:15.000 They said, you're criminals, you're out of control, we're going to set up our own colonial governments on a state-by-state basis.

02:46:21.000 It wasn't until years into the war that they then said, we're going to be a new nation and a new country.

02:46:28.000 And so, you know, the problem is we've been led by the wrong people.

02:46:32.000 And I'm not even saying I'm of the caliber to lead people.

02:46:36.000 It just needs to be serious and focused.

02:46:38.000 Through the state houses.

02:46:39.000 We're on the verge of having Vermont, New Hampshire, Arizona.

02:46:42.000 Other state houses are openly talking about seceding.

02:46:45.000 And I don't even mean a full secession, a limited secession like South Carolina attempted under Andrew Jackson, but he foiled that.

02:46:52.000 It wasn't needed then, it's needed today.

02:46:55.000 To say, we're still in the Union, but we disregard your 10th Amendment violating overarching systems.

02:47:02.000 We redeclare the 10th Amendment sovereignty we had as part of this Confederacy.

02:47:08.000 And I don't mean the Confederacy of the 1860s.

02:47:11.000 I mean the true Confederacy that was the 13 colonies before that.

02:47:14.000 Then that gets all into political science.

02:47:17.000 But we need to set about first showing people what the Bill of Rights and Constitution is, showing how it's been violated, and then going to reprove this government.

02:47:26.000 So many people focus at the federal level.

02:47:27.000 You're not going to take their tallest, most powerful fortress first.

02:47:32.000 You've got to take their lesser kingdoms and domains first, back into the people's control. 0.93

02:47:37.000 That's your county, your city, your water district, your city council.

02:47:41.000 Your school board.

02:47:43.000 That's where you can foil them.

02:47:45.000 The state legislature seats, the state senate seats, the state assemblyman seats, the seats at all of these levels can be used.

02:47:57.000 The sheriffs are absolutely paramount.

02:48:00.000 And so at those points, and that is happening by the way, you're just not going to hear the enemy admit it's going on, but we have heralded these wonderful happenings Here on the broadcast we have many of these sheriffs and state reps and others on that are talking just like I am.

02:48:15.000 And more and more people in the federal government are talking like we are.

02:48:19.000 More and more of them.

02:48:20.000 So many prominent people.

02:48:21.000 So our numbers are actually growing.

02:48:23.000 We don't want them to trick us.

02:48:24.000 They're provocateurs.

02:48:26.000 Or they're camp followers of the provocateurs into premature engagement physically.

02:48:34.000 Don't worry.

02:48:34.000 The globalists are going to start blowing stuff up and come for us physically.

02:48:37.000 And at that point we've got to roll them up.

02:48:39.000 When it's obvious they're the terrorists.

02:48:41.000 Let the redcoats come for the guns. 0.99

02:48:43.000 Let it come. 0.95

02:48:44.000 And when they come, we're going to whip them.

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02:51:41.000 By the way, folks, tomorrow night I'm going to be on Coast to Coast, staying tomorrow night I'm going to be on Coast to Coast, staying in for three hours talking about this whole police state spy and And I'm, of course, going to be doing an interview with Tex Marshley on his show, which I'll air in about a week.

02:52:10.000 Just some side notes there.

02:52:12.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Wyatt in Maryland.

02:52:14.000 Wyatt, good to talk to you.

02:52:16.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:52:17.000 Good, sir.

02:52:18.000 Good afternoon.

02:52:18.000 Yeah, I was listening to Canadian Broadcasting this morning, and they interviewed a professor at the University of Texas, and his name is Dr. Kozel.

02:52:29.000 I'm not sure exactly how that's spelled, but it sounds like K-O-Z-E-L.

02:52:32.000 He's an assistant medical professor.

02:52:35.000 You might want to be interested in looking into him.

02:52:39.000 What they're doing is, according to the host, there's Homeland Security money, And, uh, defense department money.

02:52:47.000 Yeah, they're gonna have what, bioweapons development?

02:52:49.000 Uh, no, it's for MRIs.

02:52:52.000 Uh... to be used as part of uh... To tell if we have colds.

02:52:55.000 No, to tell if we have... if you're telling the truth.

02:52:58.000 Oh yeah, they've already put those in the airports.

02:53:00.000 It's a total scam.

02:53:02.000 You know, they prove lie detectors are a fraud, so they move on to an MRI.

02:53:07.000 These passive MRIs.

02:53:08.000 I was trying to guess, because I know UT's involved in every evil you can imagine.

02:53:11.000 Right.

02:53:12.000 Well, it's kind of like uh... she had three other guests on, and she only said her name once, so I didn't catch it.

02:53:18.000 But there's a guy out of Boston... Yeah, they're putting brain scanners up in the airports.

02:53:23.000 I was about to say Boston put it in.

02:53:25.000 I saw that on CBS News three years ago, and I've got the article somewhere.

02:53:30.000 Yeah, brain scanners are in the airport.

02:53:32.000 And of course, it's a total fraud.

02:53:33.000 I mean, it's just their excuse.

02:53:35.000 Well, what they want to do... Oh, the computer says you're a terrorist.

02:53:37.000 Yeah, what they want to do is... You've got to watch the farmers with satellites.

02:53:40.000 They could be al-Qaeda.

02:53:41.000 I'm sorry.

02:53:42.000 They want to use us for people who are, and eventually it'll be administered by court decision to determine whether you're telling the truth or not.

02:53:53.000 And nobody can look under the hood.

02:53:56.000 It's proprietary.

02:53:57.000 Well, the company just says it shows you're lying.

02:54:00.000 Right.

02:54:00.000 Well, eventually, what they said, with this possibility, eliminate jury trials.

02:54:08.000 Of course they did.

02:54:09.000 The National Association of Lawyers, the National, what is it called?

02:54:14.000 I'm having one of those moments.

02:54:15.000 Bar Association?

02:54:16.000 Yes, the National Bar Association has been lobbying for four years to get rid of juries.

02:54:21.000 Thanks for the call.

02:54:23.000 Oh, I was about to go to Stan and he hung up.

02:54:25.000 Why, are you still there?

02:54:26.000 Why, it's gone too.

02:54:27.000 I don't have time for anybody else.

02:54:28.000 Stan, I was hurrying to get to you and you hung up.

02:54:31.000 You'd have had two minutes.

02:54:32.000 I can't go to the other people.

02:54:33.000 I'm sorry.

02:54:34.000 No, I mean, look, they're getting rid of juries in England for almost everything now.

02:54:38.000 They're getting rid of them here.

02:54:40.000 They're moving to do it.

02:54:42.000 It's just, again, that'll stop Al Qaeda, I guess, having brain scanners everywhere.

02:54:47.000 But we're going to legalize all the illegal aliens when it is an amnesty. 0.78

02:54:51.000 It makes my head spin.

02:54:54.000 Oh, the NSA's only spying on you for your own good, but oh, the government's also looking at your farms with, uh...

02:55:01.000 I'm not going to say the guy's name, don't worry, but we just got an order for one of the videos and it said Fort Meade.

02:55:09.000 I'm not kidding.

02:55:10.000 So Kevin, who works here, calls the number because the note on it says, sorry for the things we do.

02:55:17.000 I don't know what that means.

02:55:19.000 He calls and I think he called Fort Meade and persons at work at The NSA.

02:55:26.000 We're sitting there talking to him.

02:55:28.000 I told her by office, I said, we don't want to know anything classified.

02:55:31.000 And besides, the guy wasn't telling us anything classified.

02:55:37.000 But at the same time, because we don't need to know.

02:55:39.000 We can see the manifestation.

02:55:41.000 I know everything you're doing by watching your attack pattern.

02:55:44.000 I know everything you're doing by your operations.

02:55:46.000 Your past operations, because I know you duplicate.

02:55:49.000 And because we can see what you're doing on the ground.

02:55:53.000 You see?

02:55:55.000 And then I can also go to people you've tried to get involved in your operations, say like emergency managers who aren't under national security, and they can tell me everything you told them.

02:56:03.000 So, see, we go right around all that.

02:56:06.000 We just walk right around it.

02:56:09.000 But you've got to be careful with that stuff, with people trying to give you classified info.

02:56:13.000 It is a daily problem around here.

02:56:15.000 But that isn't the instance, that wasn't an instance of it a few minutes ago.

02:56:20.000 That was just some of the good folks in government.

02:56:22.000 Alright, we're out of time.

02:56:23.000 Take care.

Alex Jones Show - January 17, 2006

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