Alex Jones Show - 20060124_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:25.000 Deep behind enemy lines, Austin, Texas, InfoWars Studio.

00:00:31.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:33.000 I am Jack Blood, sitting in for Alex Jones today.

00:00:36.000 So glad you could join us this 24th day of January 2006.

00:00:42.000 Eric Huffschmidt, whose perennial book on 9-11 Entitled, Painful Questions and Analysis of the September 11th Attack.

00:00:50.000 We'll be joining us in the second hour of today's program.

00:00:54.000 We are going to take your calls and go over a lot of news.

00:00:58.000 I had a ton of news left over from yesterday, so we're gonna bang out some of that and bang out some of the new headlines today at InfoWars.com.

00:01:07.000 And, well, this is the beauty of doing a radio program.

00:01:10.000 Such as this, there is no lack of news, and unfortunately, a lot of it is bad or bizarre.

00:01:16.000 Although we always encourage you to take a positive attitude, and very simply put, and it might be a little trite and cliche, but the truth does set you free.

00:01:27.000 If you've been watching the mainstream media, Cable and network news you have seen and you will hear in this recent State of the Union by George W. Bush the bragging of catching another number two, number three, number four Al-Qaeda guy almost had Hariri or almost had Zahawiri.

00:01:47.000 In this recent bombing in Pakistan, and I meant to get to this yesterday, but it's very important because I know a lot of people get their news through this radio program.

00:01:55.000 It's very important that we punctuate this particular attack in Pakistan where we captured and killed and had a great victory for Oceania.

00:02:06.000 Yes, that's right, I said Oceania.

00:02:09.000 And this is the story that peeled out yesterday that was circulating around the web and also broadcast on CNN.

00:02:16.000 A Pakistan PM, Prime Minister, CIA attack reports bizarre, no evidence that top Al-Qaeda leaders weren't at the target, he says.

00:02:28.000 Pakistani Prime Minister Sharif Aziz, on Sunday, ridiculed as bizarre a U.S.

00:02:35.000 report that senior Al-Qaeda leaders were killed in a CIA attack on a home along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

00:02:42.000 He says, quote, there is no evidence, as of a half hour ago, that there were any people there, as he said on CNN's late edition with Wolf Blitzer.

00:02:52.000 The area does see movement of people from across the border, but we have not found one body or one shred of evidence that these people were there.

00:03:01.000 Meanwhile, the Bush administration and their minions, and of course all those reading the talking points on the Sunday news shows, Went into great detail to talk about how they had Zawahiri and various number two, number three Al-Syieda minions at this particular house.

00:03:19.000 The initial reports, of course, as you remember, came out that we simply and accidentally, of course, killed a lot of innocent people in a supposed decapitation move on the number two Al-Qaeda man.

00:03:32.000 But again, here we have the Pakistani Prime Minister, Aziz, saying This is bizarre, because there's no evidence.

00:03:39.000 No one's told them there was no evidence.

00:03:41.000 They've seen nothing to indicate that that is the truth.

00:03:44.000 Again, folks, I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, but your government is lying to you.

00:03:49.000 U.S.

00:03:49.000 counter-terrorism officials have said they believe the January 13th, that's right folks, it was on the 13th, the January 13th attack killed 4 to 8 Al-Qaeda affiliated quote-unquote foreigners attending a dinner meeting.

00:04:03.000 Knowledgeable sources have said that their bodies were removed from the scene by comrades and buried elsewhere.

00:04:09.000 Well, isn't that convenient?

00:04:11.000 Tens of thousands of Pakistanis have taken to the streets and cities nationwide to express outrage about the attack which killed more than a dozen civilians, including women and children.

00:04:22.000 Pakistani officials originally put the death toll at 18 civilians as these cited 13 deaths.

00:04:29.000 13 deaths on January 13th.

00:04:33.000 Har for the course, isn't it folks?

00:04:35.000 We have a lot of news to cover, including Pentagon spied on Houston anti-Halliburton activists.

00:04:40.000 Patriot Act renewals include creation of a federal police force.

00:04:44.000 Officer docked pay for torturing an Iraqi to death 11 people indicted for domestic terror activities in the US.

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00:08:00.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:15.000 Jack Blood sitting in for the one and only Alex Jones, trying to do my best to live up to a legend.

00:08:23.000 Huge shoes to fill, as I'm sure all of you know.

00:08:27.000 My show, of course, airs right after Alex Jones' program every day, Monday through Friday, on this wonderful GCN radio network, going out to over 60 countries as we speak.

00:08:36.000 Very important for us to straighten out the record, to put things on the record.

00:08:42.000 Unfortunately, Americans and people around the world only get half of the story.

00:08:47.000 I think I'm being rather generous there.

00:08:49.000 We could cut that down to maybe a tenth.

00:08:52.000 Of the story, because as each news item, each news event comes out, there are so many angles, so much research to be done, and we know that of course the mainstream media, the establishment media, is either lazy or they don't give a darn about getting Americans the truth.

00:09:08.000 And thank goodness we have something called cyberspace and the internet.

00:09:14.000 We're able to read newspapers from around the world, and we can somehow now get a sense of what is reality, break out of some of the illusion, and come to some basic common sense conclusions for ourselves.

00:09:27.000 And that's really what we need to do.

00:09:29.000 You know what's interesting is I talk to a lot of people, folks, and whether they be family or people on the street or my neighbors, And I try to tell them, well, you know, this attack in Pakistan, for instance, really didn't happen.

00:09:43.000 What did happen is we killed a lot of women and children and made a lot of excuses.

00:09:48.000 I'm blowing my horn.

00:09:50.000 I just got a note here through the studio window.

00:09:53.000 Well, hey, look, folks, that's what talk show hosts do.

00:09:56.000 So as I'm talking to people and I try to relate to them very simply, here's another side of the story.

00:10:02.000 I don't want to hear it.

00:10:03.000 I got to put my hands over my ears.

00:10:05.000 I don't want to hear it.

00:10:06.000 Can't hear it.

00:10:07.000 That's just too much for me.

00:10:08.000 I don't want to hear it.

00:10:09.000 It must be a... Are you ready, folks?

00:10:11.000 Let's get the drum roll. 1.00

00:10:12.000 Sound the trumpets.

00:10:13.000 It must be a conspiracy theory.

00:10:17.000 Or it must be some liberal propaganda.

00:10:20.000 People are so quick to label things that they will not hear you.

00:10:24.000 Last night, I'm driving down I-35, and I pull up, I get off the freeway, I pull off onto my exit, and there's a gentleman Who is so kind that he offers to wash my windows for me.

00:10:37.000 He doesn't ask me, he just starts washing my windows.

00:10:40.000 Sure, we've all been there and done that.

00:10:42.000 I tell him not to wash my windows.

00:10:44.000 I don't particularly like people getting near my car that I don't know.

00:10:47.000 I think it's a rather safe precaution to keep as a mandate.

00:10:53.000 And I begin to try to tell him how here in Austin, Texas

00:10:58.000 The police, admittedly, dress up as the homeless in order to fish inside your car, in order to take a gander inside your car to see if you're wearing your seatbelt, to see if your tags and registration are all in order, and if they're not, if there's any reason to believe that you could be a threat to society or yourself, that's of course the seatbelt reference, then they simply radio ahead and have you arrested or cited.

00:11:24.000 Well, as I'm talking to this homeless man, he is unable to hear me, won't hear me, refuses to hear me, and when I... Well, I have to admit, folks, I did a bit of an information drive by.

00:11:34.000 I forced the information upon this gentleman, and he accused me of being on crack cocaine and being paranoid.

00:11:42.000 Even though...

00:11:44.000 It's in all the mainstream newspapers down here.

00:11:46.000 Even though it's common knowledge to anybody that reads beyond the headline of the newspaper.

00:11:51.000 Well folks, that's exactly what the establishment media is counting on.

00:11:55.000 That you'll get all of your news and all of your information and formulate your opinions by sound bites and above the fold headlines.

00:12:04.000 I'm very proud of what we do here on this network is again trying to set the record straight.

00:12:09.000 Going back to this story Pakistan, this Pakistani bombing, again reported on CNN.

00:12:14.000 Now, some of you can say that is a liberal propaganda network, and you'd be right.

00:12:20.000 I've heard the term aptly put, the Communist News Network.

00:12:25.000 That does not mean to say that they can simply make up something, as Pakistani Prime Minister, Shakout Aziz, ridicules the U.S.

00:12:35.000 bombings as quote-unquote, bizarre.

00:12:40.000 Aziz said Sunday, if you want to reflect on what happened, we heard there was a dinner meeting with all the seniors of Al-Syedah.

00:12:49.000 I think that's a bizarre thought because these people don't get together for dinner in a terrain or an environment like that.

00:12:56.000 Second, we heard that Al-Zawahiri was there, Aziz said.

00:12:59.000 Now we are hearing about this person who is a chemical weapons expert.

00:13:03.000 We don't know who was there.

00:13:07.000 That's being honest.

00:13:08.000 We don't know who was there.

00:13:10.000 We do know there were a number of dead women and children.

00:13:13.000 We don't know when they came, if at all.

00:13:15.000 But if they were there, we'll find out because our people are investigating and they're going through all the evidence available.

00:13:21.000 And once we find out, we'll share it with the world.

00:13:23.000 And I guess we won't be surprised when Pakistan all of a sudden cosigns this Giant government lie. 1.00

00:13:30.000 Another interesting angle to all of this, if any of you have seen a pretty good documentary, not 100% good, about 60% good, called Power of Nightmares.

00:13:40.000 Very, very interesting, gotten a lot of mainstream attention.

00:13:44.000 Zawahiri is number one!

00:13:46.000 This is, of course, before there was an Al-Qaeda, or the base.

00:13:50.000 This is before the rise of the Mujahideen and the rise of Tim Osman, aka Osama Bin Laden. 0.50

00:13:59.000 Zawahiri was the number one guy.

00:14:00.000 He was the one who was out and calling for the heads of particular Muslims, who he felt had betrayed the religion and betrayed the people. 0.98

00:14:10.000 But he's been demoted to number two, as we all know.

00:14:13.000 Good chance, I'm not going to say I know that the man is dead.

00:14:16.000 I think there's a pretty good chance he's an asset, as we talked about with Kurt Nemo on my program yesterday, Deadline Live.

00:14:23.000 I'm going to move forward here and remind you that we will take your phone calls in this hour, and Eric Huffschmid is coming up in the second hour of today's program.

00:14:30.000 800-259-9231 to get on in here.

00:14:34.000 This is a story that we've really had for a while, because again, there was an anti-Halliburton protest in Houston, and we knew that they had taken a lot of heat.

00:14:46.000 They had been arrested, many of them, unjustly.

00:14:49.000 Some of them had been abused by the police in Houston.

00:14:52.000 Now, of course, not a big surprise the Pentagon spied on these Houston anti-Halliburton activists.

00:14:59.000 Now, of course, we have to remind ourselves there is an area of our Constitution that allows you to redress your grievances, allows you to gather together and to call out the government, to question the government, but not in these days.

00:15:16.000 A Houston-based anti-Halliburton group was spied on by a top-secret Pentagon counterintelligence agency in 2004, according to a report in Newsweek magazine.

00:15:27.000 Isikoff wrote quite a nice piece on this.

00:15:31.000 The peaceful protest, the key word here is peaceful, organized by Houston Global Awareness on June 29, 2004, was attended by approximately 10 local peace activists.

00:15:43.000 The protests involve handing out peanut butter and jelly sandwiches to employees of giant military contractor Halliburton to draw attention to the allegations that the company overcharged for military food contracts in Iraq.

00:15:58.000 One of their many offenses, trading with the enemy.

00:16:01.000 There are any number of offenses I'm sure most of you are aware of.

00:16:04.000 Reported Newsweek this week reveals that the Pentagon's counterintelligence field activity, CIFA, Filed a report on the Houston protests which took place outside Halliburton's headquarters in Houston, Texas.

00:16:19.000 Not a surprise, and again, I mean, arrested, detained, not given attorneys.

00:16:25.000 We interviewed some of the people back when this took place in June of 2004, and this is of course the country that we live in.

00:16:32.000 This is the transparent democracy that we live in, that George W. Bush brags about around the world.

00:16:41.000 And of course, they only spy on Al-Qaeda.

00:16:44.000 That's the principle.

00:16:45.000 Of course, news coming out today that Congress was fully aware of the NSA spying and the virtual spying on all Americans.

00:16:56.000 Well, not all Americans.

00:16:58.000 On Al-Qaeda.

00:16:59.000 That's right.

00:17:00.000 Of course, we're considered to be Al-Qaeda.

00:17:04.000 We're considered to be terrorists.

00:17:06.000 I mean, crossing the street, not wearing your seatbelt, attending protests, redressing your grievances, smoking, all terrorist acts as it's loosely defined.

00:17:18.000 Patriot Act renewal includes the creation of a federal police force.

00:17:24.000 Sounds like it Very simply verges on offending posse comitatus.

00:17:30.000 Thanks to suburban guerrilla Mark Crispin Miller and Save the USA for pointing out section 605 of the House version of the Patriot Act renewal legislation.

00:17:40.000 It calls for the creation of a federal police force.

00:17:42.000 Your imperial president at work!

00:17:46.000 The permanent police force to be known as the United States Secret Service Ununiformed Division, empowered to make arrests without warrant or any offense against the United States committed in their presence.

00:17:58.000 Let me repeat that.

00:18:00.000 A permanent police force to be known as the quote, United States Secret Service Ununiformed Division.

00:18:07.000 Ununiformed is the key word there.

00:18:10.000 Empowered to quote, make arrests without warrant Or any offense against the United States committed in their presence.

00:18:18.000 Or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States, if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such a felony.

00:18:32.000 Now the only thing we've left out here is, might commit a felony sometime in the future.

00:18:38.000 Here's the text to Section 605 created of the Ununiformed Division United States Secret Service.

00:18:46.000 Hat tip, Patriot Daily.

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00:18:53.000 The War on Terror is more than just another public policy.

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00:19:01.000 Our leaders have reduced politics to questions of mere survival, in which even the smallest risks, as are viewed, is overriding threats to national existence.

00:19:12.000 We at Against the War on Terror aim to challenge this view, and the apparent need to eliminate fear itself.

00:19:20.000 The preservation of bare life Cannot and should not guide our political activity and dominate our public culture.

00:19:28.000 We reject the very premise of the War on Terror.

00:19:30.000 Isn't that what it comes down to, folks?

00:19:34.000 You're either with us or you're with the terrorists.

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00:24:37.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:39.000 I'm Jack Blood sitting in for Alex today.

00:24:41.000 He will be back on Thursday, to the best of my knowledge.

00:24:45.000 Reading that story of the United States Secret Service un-uniformed, or sorry, uniformed, uninformed division You have to really flash back a little bit to our little trip to New York City, which is encompassed in the new Alex Jones film.

00:25:06.000 I remember climbing up Madison Square Garden.

00:25:09.000 I had an interview to do, and it's rather tall, and you have to really hurry, and it was quite hot.

00:25:15.000 It was in the middle of the summer.

00:25:16.000 So, of course, once I get up about eight stories to the very top of Madison Square Garden, I broke out in a bit of a sweat.

00:25:24.000 And I was, of course, interrogated by Secret Service for sweating.

00:25:27.000 That, of course, was the indication that I could have been with Al-Qaeda, that I could have been there for some ill-gotten deed, or I could have been, potentially, an evildoer.

00:25:37.000 So I was interrogated and watched for roughly a half an hour.

00:25:42.000 And the interesting thing was, is they listened to the interview that I did for another radio program, and they seemed to kind of like what I was saying.

00:25:50.000 On another note, the Republicans, the Stepford Republicans sitting behind me listening to my interview did not like what I was saying and started an interrogation of their own.

00:25:58.000 But is that what it's coming to?

00:26:01.000 You're sweating, sir.

00:26:02.000 What do you have to hide?

00:26:04.000 Please, sir, can you take this electronic lie detector test and we'd like to interrogate you for a while.

00:26:09.000 No, you may not call your lawyer.

00:26:11.000 We think you could be with Al-Qaeda.

00:26:13.000 That sounds like I'm exaggerating a little bit, and sometimes you do have to exaggerate to make the point, but I don't think we do have to exaggerate at all, because we have so many, so many documented cases of this police state just out of control.

00:26:29.000 Eleven people indicted for domestic terror activities in the United States.

00:26:33.000 A grand jury recently indicted eleven people It's funny how all these numbers are always 11 and 13, but that's another story.

00:26:40.000 11 people indicted for more than a dozen domestic terrorism activities in five western states.

00:26:46.000 Attorney General Alberto, I love torture, Anti-Gonzalez said on Friday, 65 count indictment, which includes charges of arson and attempted arson, conspiracy and conspiracy to commit arson.

00:26:46.000 U.S.

00:26:58.000 Yes, there are conspiracies.

00:27:01.000 Use and possession of a destructive device and destruction of an energy facility was returned by a grand jury in Oregon last Thursday and unsealed on Friday.

00:27:12.000 The 11 members of the Portland-based cell of animal rights and environmental extremists, anybody who's not a moderate is certainly an extremist, ...were indicted for their roles in a pattern of domestic terrorism activities.

00:27:27.000 Gonzales, Ante Gonzales, told a news conference eight of the suspects had been arrested, including one Canadian, and three were believed to be outside the United States.

00:27:38.000 Foreign terrorists! 1.00

00:27:40.000 Domestic terrorists? 1.00

00:27:41.000 Foreign terrorists! 1.00

00:27:42.000 The indictment said the suspects were responsible for 17 incidents in five western states, California, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming.

00:27:51.000 Including sabotaging a high-tension power line in a conspiracy dated back to 1996.

00:27:57.000 In many cases, the group publicized the incidents with graffiti press releases and communiques attributing the actions to the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front terrorist movement, Gonzales said.

00:28:11.000 Now, of course, there are Large exposés on news programs like Dateline and 60 Minutes, where these people just get on the TV and talk about exactly what they're trying to do.

00:28:21.000 And that is, I think, to call attention to their cause.

00:28:24.000 These are really little more than publicity stunts, some of them a little more serious.

00:28:30.000 Domestic terrorists. 0.68

00:28:33.000 Again, under the current law, can't tell people that you've been arrested.

00:28:38.000 No search warrants needed to search your property.

00:28:41.000 They don't even have to tell you that they're searching your property.

00:28:43.000 No attorney held indefinitely in captivity with no counsel, no habeas corpus.

00:28:52.000 Sounds like America, doesn't it folks?

00:28:54.000 It just must be America. 0.71

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00:29:02.000 Chief Warrant Officer Louis Wellsuffer, the highest-ranking U.S.

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00:29:21.000 It's Orwellian, folks.

00:29:23.000 He's Doct Paye.

00:29:25.000 Actually, on Deadline Live today, we'll be interviewing Former Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, who was in Abu Ghraib during the torture scandals, will have you stay tuned for that.

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00:38:06.000 Eric Huffschmidt joining us here at the top of the hour talking about all things 9-11 and some current events.

00:38:12.000 Let's go to Joe in Wisconsin.

00:38:14.000 Joe, thank you for calling in today.

00:38:15.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show.

00:38:17.000 Hey, Jack.

00:38:18.000 Behind every bush is a terrorist, and behind every terrorist is a bush.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, I had four observations for you.

00:38:25.000 Really quick, I'll rapid-fire them for you.

00:38:26.000 I think the globalists want us to be like an ant or a bee social insect, you know, sterile worker drones, just mindlessly doing whatever.

00:38:35.000 Sure.

00:38:37.000 I was also thinking about Enron.

00:38:39.000 What if they got wind that the economy was going to get blown out and they decided, well, We'll just blow out our company and reap the benefits first.

00:38:49.000 And I bet you, if you dig a little bit, they know some people in high places.

00:38:54.000 Um, another one!

00:38:55.000 Well, let me stop you real quick, because first of all, when you mention creating mindless drones, that was all part of the eugenics plan, of course, I think, outed by Julian Huxley's brother. 0.86

00:39:06.000 Julian Huxley was the first head of UNESCO, the social education arm of the United Nations.

00:39:11.000 His brother, of course, was Aldous Huxley, and wrote his book, The Brave New World, Brave New World Revisited, where he outlines these exact eugenic plans that started out in the United Nations.

00:39:20.000 So, this is something the Bush family has been signed on to for years.

00:39:24.000 What was your second point?

00:39:25.000 The second one was blowing out the economy, because if people got wind of it, I would say that they would want to benefit from it and say, hey, you know, we can make money off this, so let's do it ourselves.

00:39:37.000 DV Kid has just written a fantastic article on newswithviews.com called 9-11 the smoking cannon, and related this to insider trading by Enron right before 9-11.

00:39:49.000 They cashed out a lot of their stuff before 9-11, knowing that the economy was going to take a hit.

00:39:53.000 And of course, yes, they're very inside, as you know.

00:39:56.000 They knew they were being investigated and that the bottom was going to fall out.

00:40:00.000 And you better believe they took the stockholders for everything they could get.

00:40:03.000 Go ahead.

00:40:04.000 Okay, the Waltons have a secret underground bunker complex, right?

00:40:07.000 So if the globalists' future for us is so rosy, Why are they doing that?

00:40:14.000 Why would they build something to withstand World War III?

00:40:18.000 Or, in their case, World War IV.

00:40:19.000 But, if it's so great, why is it that they're doing that?

00:40:23.000 I love the common sense approach to your question.

00:40:25.000 That is, of course, because they can't control Al-Qaeda, and they can't control China, and as much as they want to save us all from these evildoers, they are pretty sure that's not going to happen.

00:40:36.000 So that's why Dick Cheney is building a new bunker every month.

00:40:40.000 By the way, everybody has been waking up, and when I ask them why the Waltons are building that, they get one of two reactions.

00:40:47.000 One of them is, well, they can do whatever they want with their money.

00:40:50.000 Well, that's true, but why are they doing it?

00:40:52.000 And the people that finally figure it out say, well, maybe they know something we don't.

00:40:57.000 What about you, Joe?

00:40:57.000 Are you creating your bomb shelter?

00:41:00.000 Well, I've been trying to get people to see things differently, and I've been doing things differently.

00:41:07.000 I'm trying to do a common sense web page for, like, Gary Brownfield.

00:41:11.000 I'm going to add it to him and whatnot.

00:41:15.000 I'm going with duct tape and plastic myself.

00:41:18.000 Okay.

00:41:19.000 One last one.

00:41:20.000 Sure.

00:41:21.000 People's reactions, they always give the benefit of the doubt, and I don't understand that.

00:41:26.000 If this is a modern day Rome, then just like the Romans, they're going to feed the Christians to the lions, and I don't see too much difference. 1.00

00:41:35.000 Well, as you said, I think it's pretty apparent now that people are waking up, in the sense that they are able to receive the information.

00:41:42.000 I mean, I think once you start receiving the information, there are different definitions of so-called, you know, taking the red pill, of waking up, quote-unquote.

00:41:51.000 But just to get them started, I think, is great.

00:41:53.000 And a lot of people haven't heard any of the stuff that we would talk about here on GCN or you would read on InfoWars or JackBlood.com.

00:42:00.000 They don't even know that exists.

00:42:02.000 Yes.

00:42:02.000 We need to reach these people, Joe.

00:42:04.000 Thanks for the call.

00:42:05.000 Mike in Michigan.

00:42:06.000 Thank you for calling in.

00:42:07.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show.

00:42:09.000 Hello.

00:42:09.000 Jack?

00:42:10.000 How are you, sir?

00:42:10.000 Yes, sir.

00:42:11.000 Very good.

00:42:12.000 Good.

00:42:12.000 I heard your program some months ago, and you had a guest on your program talking about gang stalking.

00:42:20.000 Yes.

00:42:20.000 I believe her name was Eleanor White.

00:42:21.000 Is that her name?

00:42:22.000 Yes.

00:42:22.000 That's right.

00:42:23.000 Eleanor White.

00:42:24.000 I'm trying to get a hold of her.

00:42:25.000 Do you have any idea how I could do that?

00:42:28.000 I don't know offhand.

00:42:29.000 I'm here in Alex's studio, not in my own, but if you're online and you want to write me at jackblood at hotmail.com, I'll make sure that you have her address.

00:42:40.000 She's done some very interesting research.

00:42:42.000 Do you want to tell the listeners quickly what gang stalking is?

00:42:45.000 Do you have an idea what it is?

00:42:46.000 Well, I'll tell you, after hearing her program, believe it or not, it's been happening to me for over 30 years.

00:42:55.000 Yeah, you need to talk to Eleanor because she has put together a coalition of people both in the United States and Canada that have suffered.

00:43:01.000 And just to quickly explain it for the listeners, this is a situation where you become a liability for the government or for the establishment.

00:43:11.000 And there are a number of, let's just call them, volunteers.

00:43:14.000 Some are police, in the police department.

00:43:16.000 Some are in the FBI and the CIA.

00:43:18.000 Yes, some are working with the alphabet agencies, but a lot of them are people that are working at the grocery store, that are just working everyday common jobs, who go on to forums and get worked up to attack and to do something to a certain individual because, of course, they're speaking out.

00:43:34.000 They're using their First Amendment right of free speech.

00:43:38.000 And the next thing you know, you have people following you, you have strange things happening, you have people calling your work trying to get you fired, people calling your wife trying to get you divorced, and they are relentless.

00:43:49.000 And that's really the quickest explanation I can give people about this gang stalking.

00:43:55.000 It does happen, it's retaliatory, and we are living in a retaliatory time when we have people like Karl Rove who have no qualms about killing or going after their enemies.

00:44:04.000 Give me a little note there, Mike, at jackblood at hotmail.com, or if you want to go to my forums, if you go to jackblood.com and you click on my forum link, Eleanor posts there quite often, but I'll make sure you get her address, okay?

00:44:16.000 Great.

00:44:17.000 Yeah, this has been happening for years.

00:44:20.000 I didn't connect the dots. 0.83

00:44:21.000 It makes you feel like you're crazy, isn't it?

00:44:23.000 It does.

00:44:24.000 I mean, you don't tell everyone.

00:44:25.000 But, you know, I have a good memory, so I can remember a lot of incidents.

00:44:29.000 But now I can put them together now that she has explained it somewhat, you know?

00:44:33.000 Yes, I have enjoyed some really overt gang-stalking, which I've documented quite aptly myself.

00:44:39.000 But it does make you feel crazy.

00:44:40.000 It makes you feel exasperated.

00:44:42.000 I guess it makes you feel a little paranoid to have people watching you.

00:44:46.000 Well, they try to wear you out.

00:44:47.000 They can be very, very dangerous, is the problem, because if you don't respond to their initial pressure, they will turn up the heat, so to speak.

00:44:56.000 I don't have time to go into too much today, Mike, but we'll get you ahold of Eleanor, and we'll see if she can't help you out, okay?

00:45:01.000 Well, thanks, Jack.

00:45:02.000 Thank you.

00:45:03.000 Keep the faith.

00:45:03.000 Let's go to Dan in Vancouver, and then Tony in Arkansas.

00:45:08.000 Dan, thank you for calling in.

00:45:09.000 You have a new, quote-unquote, conservative government there in Canada today?

00:45:14.000 Yeah, we actually sort of do.

00:45:16.000 I'm actually not Canadian, but looking at this Harper guy, being from the States, it's like he's cut from that same stone our Butch administration is cut from, you know?

00:45:29.000 He says that this is not an endorsement for the neocons, that they are not neocons, they are conservatives.

00:45:37.000 As you know, it's a rather new party that took advantage of all the scandals under the Paul Martin administration.

00:45:44.000 Paul Martin being How do we put this politely?

00:45:48.000 Paul Martin being bosom buddies with George W. Bush?

00:45:53.000 I don't know.

00:45:54.000 Does that give the people of Canada any hope?

00:45:57.000 Do you have any sense of that?

00:45:58.000 No, what they did, it's like they were voting for the least worst.

00:46:04.000 They were sick of all the scandal that came out.

00:46:07.000 The lesser of two evils.

00:46:08.000 The lesser of two evils.

00:46:10.000 They didn't like either candidate.

00:46:12.000 Which, I don't know the percentage, but I think the voting percentage was very low for this one.

00:46:18.000 Right. 0.77

00:46:19.000 Well, they said they voted against the Liberal Party because they had become smug and arrogant.

00:46:25.000 And here's the thing, you had a so-called, quote-unquote, Liberal government there in Canada.

00:46:32.000 You have one in England.

00:46:35.000 with the Labor Party in charge of Tony Blair and here you have this arch-conservative, at least that's how they bill themselves, neoconservative government here in the United States, yet they all seem to be getting along rather well, don't they?

00:46:48.000 That's fine.

00:46:49.000 Another thing that's kind of interesting is blue is the color in Canada, folks, that represents the conservatives and the liberals are red, the exact opposite of what we have here in the United States.

00:47:00.000 Maybe it's conservative, liberal, it's It makes no sense.

00:47:04.000 These names are just thrown out there.

00:47:07.000 These people all work for the same group of people.

00:47:11.000 There is no conservative, there is no liberal.

00:47:14.000 People have to get that in their head.

00:47:16.000 They're just names.

00:47:22.000 Appropriate for a communication device.

00:47:25.000 They don't mean anything.

00:47:27.000 This is the illusion.

00:47:29.000 Well, look, this was a humiliating blow for Prime Minister Paul Martin, but I think he'll be humiliated right into a job with the Carlisle Group.

00:47:38.000 Anything else today, Dan?

00:47:40.000 Yeah, on CNN.com, they have on here, Senator's Blast Free Katrina Preparations.

00:47:48.000 It just talks about In 2004, they did a dry run.

00:47:52.000 They dubbed it Hurricane Pam.

00:47:54.000 A category 3 storm would overwhelm the New Orleans area, killing up to 60,000 people, destroying buildings and roads.

00:48:03.000 My thing is, they did a dry run in 2004, and this isn't the local government, this is the Bush administration.

00:48:11.000 Doing a dry run in 2004, and they weren't prepared for this.

00:48:15.000 It's common knowledge.

00:48:16.000 I mean, anybody reading the Times-Picayune or picking up a newspaper in New Orleans knew that that was an inevitability.

00:48:23.000 It's incredible.

00:48:25.000 And then they acted like they didn't expect it to be so bad.

00:48:30.000 Homeland Security's doing a great job, aren't they?

00:48:33.000 It's incredible.

00:48:34.000 Hey, you're doing a great job.

00:48:35.000 I love both your shows.

00:48:37.000 You guys keep up the good work.

00:48:39.000 Hey, you too.

00:48:40.000 I appreciate the call, Dan.

00:48:41.000 The fact of the matter is they were figuring out how to cut up the pie.

00:48:46.000 They were going to wait because they have their hands full, folks.

00:48:49.000 As we understand, we're fighting two wars, looking at third and fourth war, a lot of scandals.

00:48:57.000 They had their hands full.

00:48:58.000 So they were hoping that really this maybe didn't happen, but they had the plan.

00:49:03.000 If it did happen, they would provide the solution, as we all know.

00:49:06.000 Many people have alleged that they created this in the first place.

00:49:10.000 I'm really not one of the people.

00:49:11.000 I'd like to see more evidence, but they certainly did take advantage of it, and they sat and cut up the pie.

00:49:17.000 While people were hurting themselves, this is the point about the whole Katrina disaster, folks.

00:49:22.000 People herded themselves into these government concentration camps.

00:49:28.000 That's what they were.

00:49:28.000 The FEMA camps were nothing more than modern day concentration camps.

00:49:32.000 And for all the people out there that doubted there were any camps, many of which are now ICE camps, immigration camps, that are widely publicized, you can see exactly how it works.

00:49:42.000 All roads lead to the Superdome.

00:49:45.000 All roads lead to your nearest convention center, where you will be held at gunpoint until the feds can sort it all out.

00:49:53.000 And we've done a lot of work on Katrina, and certainly there's a lot on the record, but prior knowledge, gouging, and certainly taking advantage of that event financially and economically are the least of the crimes of the Bush administration.

00:50:08.000 Let's try to get to Tony in Arkansas.

00:50:10.000 Tony, thank you for holding.

00:50:11.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show.

00:50:14.000 Do we still have Tony?

00:50:15.000 Yes.

00:50:16.000 It's an honor to speak with you.

00:50:18.000 Thank you.

00:50:19.000 It's kind of synchronicity what you let in with the 13th, Friday the 13th, him doing the attack and 13 people being killed.

00:50:28.000 Going along sort of Codex Magic, waking up myself the last four years since 9-11.

00:50:33.000 Hold on, I'm going to keep you through this break, and I'm glad you're bringing up Codex Magicka, because I want everybody to get this book.

00:50:38.000 I don't care if you have to sell ten of your other books to get it.

00:50:41.000 It is really something else.

00:50:42.000 We'll come back with Tony in Arkansas, others patiently holding Eric Hopschmidt.

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00:53:57.000 A lot of great headlines on Infowars.com today.

00:54:17.000 I urge you all to go there.

00:54:20.000 Email it to your entire list.

00:54:23.000 One of the headlines today, the United Kingdom ID cards have been quote-unquote defeated, yet they're still going ahead.

00:54:31.000 We'll talk to Paul Joseph Watson about that tomorrow.

00:54:34.000 So much news, so little time.

00:54:36.000 We're taking your calls as we speak, and of course Eric Huffschmidt will join us at about five after the hour, so that we have time to clean up all these calls.

00:54:44.000 Let's go back to Dan in Vancouver.

00:54:45.000 Dan, we cut you off with that break, but it's all yours.

00:54:48.000 Tony in Arkansas.

00:54:49.000 Tony in Arkansas, that's what I said.

00:54:51.000 Yeah, no problem.

00:54:53.000 It's kind of concerning, again, them following the occult dates.

00:54:56.000 I want to go back, if I could, just a little bit, because this is one of the most important things, maybe, in American history coming up next week.

00:55:04.000 Uh, potentially.

00:55:05.000 It's on alexismfowars.com.

00:55:07.000 But, um, if you go back and you follow these occult dates, and you notice they do a lot of large, huge things on those days, uh, you'll begin to see they're almost like mass murders, and you're a detective having to follow these people across, you know.

00:55:21.000 So anyway, back on February 1st of 2003, we had the shuttle disaster that many people say there's questions about.

00:55:27.000 That could have been a sacrifice, the symbol of the phoenix.

00:55:31.000 Columbia is the goddess they put on our capitol building.

00:55:34.000 And then they burn up the phoenix and they're creating the new one rising from the ashes.

00:55:37.000 You then go, that's called Imbolc.

00:55:39.000 Imbolc, February 1st through the 2nd.

00:55:41.000 Columbia is the Babylonian goddess, Semiramis. 0.97

00:55:44.000 I just want to add that.

00:55:45.000 Good point.

00:55:46.000 No, thank you, Jack.

00:55:46.000 Great point.

00:55:47.000 Osatara, which is March 20th through the 23rd, was when we launched the war in Iraq in 2003, and happened to just, again, if you skip all these, you'll understand that these aren't accidents.

00:55:56.000 They happened when we launched that war to reclaim Babylon, ancient Babylon.

00:56:00.000 And then on Beltane, May 1st, apart from October the 1st, you can find these on any pagan or Wiccan website, these dates.

00:56:07.000 The second most holy day of these people is May 1st, Russian May Day, Communist May Day. 0.97

00:56:12.000 That was when Bush landed on the USS Lincoln with the sun setting in the west and declared, you know, operations closed.

00:56:18.000 These are not an accident when they keep occurring.

00:56:21.000 Going back to April 19th is when they announced the new Pope that came out, Ratzinger, former Nazi himself, and he asked for this last Christmas a New World Order.

00:56:29.000 The only reason I bring these up is for what's coming February 2nd, which is again, in bulk, returning again February 1st and 2nd.

00:56:37.000 That is when they're going to the Charleston Harbor to once again attempt a drill of a nuclear bomb going off.

00:56:44.000 And we had an incredible event occur where we had 4-Star General Kevin P. Burns last summer sort of leak that out.

00:56:51.000 He gets fired abruptly, which is, you're going to talk to Karpinski later.

00:56:55.000 Please ask her.

00:56:55.000 That's an illegal maneuver.

00:56:57.000 You cannot remove him without an act.

00:57:00.000 I have military friends and stuff of Congress or, uh, uh, um, uh, forget.

00:57:04.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:04.000 I'm a little nervous.

00:57:05.000 But anyway, a court-martial, and it has to be someone of equal or higher rank than him, which would be hard to find because there's only four members in the entire military with more seniority than he.

00:57:14.000 But on February 2nd, they're going to do this drill again, and George Murray had Alex on just before that, and so I would implore anyone, please go to InfoWars, get that story.

00:57:24.000 It's from WorldNetDaily.

00:57:25.000 Link it to as many people as you can.

00:57:27.000 I don't care if you call it congressmen's news programs.

00:57:30.000 Tell them you're concerned about this drill, because they've preceded every terror attack on the day of the drill.

00:57:34.000 We have to look at these drills as a possible precursor to another terror attack.

00:57:39.000 Now, look, 99 times out of 100, maybe that's not going to happen.

00:57:43.000 Same thing with Friday the 13th, or June 6, 2006, or April 19th is a date they love.

00:57:50.000 It'll of course, this April 19th, the anniversary of Oklahoma City bombing and of Waco.

00:57:55.000 This will be 11 years to the day.

00:57:59.000 After the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:58:01.000 So do we, you know, get out and bury ourselves and put our heads in the sand and unplug from society in lieu of these looming dates?

00:58:10.000 No, of course we don't, but we are very careful where we step and I think that's the point to be made.

00:58:15.000 Codex Magicka, as you mentioned, is Tex Mars' new book.

00:58:18.000 It is fantastic.

00:58:19.000 I've just really started to get through it, and I've been studying these issues for years and years and years, and I'm learning things immediately.

00:58:26.000 I encourage people to get that.

00:58:27.000 You can go to Infowars.com.

00:58:29.000 Thanks for the call.

00:58:30.000 That was a great call, Jim.

00:58:31.000 We'll come back.

00:58:31.000 We'll go to Charles in Rhode Island.

00:58:32.000 Others patiently holding.

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00:59:17.000 Jack Blood with you today.

00:59:19.000 Alex Jones is away taking care of some business.

00:59:22.000 We'll be back on Thursday.

00:59:24.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:59:25.000 I'm honored to be sitting in the InfoWars studio broadcasting today around the world.

00:59:30.000 I have Eric Huffschmid, his great book.

00:59:34.000 Painful questions is really something you need to have.

00:59:37.000 If you want to understand the physics and the complexities of how those buildings fell and what happened on that day of 9-11, it's still one of the best books out there.

00:59:46.000 I know that's also available at Infowars.com through the usual channels.

00:59:51.000 I believe that's also available in some way, shape, or form, as well as his video documentary.

00:59:57.000 Painful Questions.

00:59:58.000 I believe that's what it is.

00:59:59.000 Painful Questions is the book.

01:00:01.000 I always get them mixed up.

01:00:02.000 That is available.

01:00:03.000 The video documentary on Prison Planet TV.

01:00:06.000 So much to remember, folks.

01:00:08.000 That's one of the very hard things about doing this type of radio.

01:00:12.000 It's easy to get on. 0.97

01:00:14.000 Talk about he said, she said, and what the president said, and the usual BS and garbage. 0.96

01:00:19.000 That's pretty easy to do.

01:00:20.000 It's easy to get on and do a sports program or an entertainment program, but you have to keep a lot in your head to do shows like this, and I'm always right on the very edge of forgetting what I'm trying to do.

01:00:31.000 Very difficult.

01:00:32.000 I think I am having senior moments here and again.

01:00:35.000 Again, I appreciate you joining us, folks.

01:00:36.000 I want to go right back to the calls, and we'll go for Charles in Rhode Island.

01:00:40.000 Is this my old friend Charles in Rhode Island?

01:00:43.000 Greetings and salutations, fellow slowly boiling frog.

01:00:46.000 How you doing, my man?

01:00:47.000 Long time no hear.

01:00:47.000 How you doing?

01:00:48.000 All right.

01:00:49.000 You know, if there's anybody you ever have to throw at the system, just throw me at them.

01:00:53.000 I upset them quite well.

01:00:55.000 Okay.

01:00:56.000 But anyways, I thought about a couple of things, Pat.

01:01:00.000 First of all, the Attorney General claiming that the President has the right, the President claiming he has the right.

01:01:04.000 You know what?

01:01:05.000 This is how things work, people.

01:01:06.000 If I claim the right, I get the right to shove a stick up your nose, and you stand there, and let me shove the stick up your nose, I obviously have the right.

01:01:13.000 That's what they're basically doing to us.

01:01:15.000 Is by claiming the right, they have the right.

01:01:17.000 But they really don't have the right.

01:01:20.000 Legally, Charles, if you go up and shove a stick up somebody's nose, you could get into trouble.

01:01:25.000 Apparently, Bush seems to be quite Teflon.

01:01:28.000 Yeah, but he's basically shoving a stick up our nose by all these spy programs and all this undercover stuff that nobody knows about.

01:01:36.000 But Charles, you're a law... well, maybe you're not, but most people listening to this show are law-abiding citizens.

01:01:42.000 You know, what do we have to worry about?

01:01:45.000 Right?

01:01:46.000 What do we have to worry about?

01:01:47.000 It's going to come down to the point where they're going to... There's a bill in Ohio, I don't know if you know about this or not, but if you're just standing around in public, they can just arrest you with no cause!

01:01:56.000 Just arrest you because you just happen to be there!

01:01:58.000 That's right, you live in Rhode Island, and we remember, what was it, about two years ago, when Kacheri came out with his Homeland Security bill, which was the most draconian of all the bills produced anywhere in this country since 9-11.

01:02:10.000 The people immediately shot him down, and he had to really Try to scramble to hold on to any kind of credibility after that.

01:02:18.000 The people said absolutely not to that.

01:02:21.000 But I mean, look, here's the way people think.

01:02:24.000 I'm not with Al-Qaeda.

01:02:25.000 I'm not a terrorist.

01:02:26.000 I'm not doing anything wrong.

01:02:28.000 So go ahead.

01:02:29.000 Have them listen to me.

01:02:30.000 I don't need my privacy.

01:02:31.000 I'd rather be safe than to have my privacy.

01:02:34.000 And then what happens is you have a divorce.

01:02:36.000 And it comes out that, well, maybe you were looking at some girly magazines.

01:02:41.000 Or you were going to a bar.

01:02:42.000 You go to your doctor.

01:02:44.000 And he finds out that you drink a six-pack of beer a day, you lose your job and all your insurance, and your entire life gets turned upside down.

01:02:51.000 You're Professor Brandon Mayfield in Oregon, you were accused of being part of the Madrid bombings, and your entire life is ruined.

01:02:59.000 Oops, sorry.

01:03:00.000 You're Richard Jewell, the head, really hero, of the Atlanta Games, accused for several years of being a terrorist.

01:03:08.000 Oops, sorry.

01:03:09.000 We got the wrong guy.

01:03:11.000 Well, basically, it's the old adage, if you give an inch, they take a mile.

01:03:15.000 That's true.

01:03:15.000 But basically, I wanted to just tell you, I bought the, uh, I bought my own little laptop, a really nice bigger, and I got the air card, and I just got it a couple weeks ago, and I'm going to be a subscriber to GCN.

01:03:25.000 I'm going to carry that internet around with me so I can listen to your showtime.

01:03:27.000 Hey, that's great, Charles.

01:03:29.000 I wondered what happened to you.

01:03:30.000 We'll have to give you a call off the air, but it's really good to hear your voice, folks.

01:03:34.000 Charles is a major patriot in Rhode Island, really holding back the powers that be, living off the grid.

01:03:41.000 Very proud of Charles.

01:03:42.000 Good to hear from you.

01:03:43.000 We're going to come right back with Eric Huffschmidt, and we'll go right back to your calls the second we get a chance.

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01:07:53.000 You are listening, though, to the Alex Jones Program, and with us right now is Eric Huffschmidt.

01:07:58.000 Eric and I have done a lot of work together over the years.

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01:08:41.000 Eric, good to have you on again.

01:08:43.000 Well, it's great to be here, Jack.

01:08:45.000 I mentioned the George Norrie interview, which a lot of people I think are pretty familiar with.

01:08:50.000 I actually thought you did a great job on that, Eric.

01:08:52.000 I mean, it's a very complicated topic, and in that particular, almost hostile setting, sometimes it's not real easy to do it.

01:09:01.000 But I thought you did a great job.

01:09:02.000 And I think, you know, what's important is to get this information out to people that haven't heard it.

01:09:07.000 Thus, I want to talk to you today about how to take the best evidence that we have, a lot of it in your book, some of it to very new evidence, and how to get that out to people to start waking them up to the reality that 9-11 was an inside job.

01:09:22.000 Well, yeah, I agree with you.

01:09:24.000 When I came out with my book in 2002, and then a few months later, the video, as far as I was concerned, you know, there's I don't know all the details, and I could have made a few mistakes in some of my assumptions, but, you know, there's enough proof.

01:09:39.000 There was enough proof back in 2002 that those towers were blown up with explosives, that the government is deceiving us about what happened, that the media is lying to us.

01:09:51.000 I mean, as far as I'm concerned, there's enough proof, and what has happened since my book and video has come out is that When people look at it, you know, of course a lot of people are angry, you know, when you make these accusations, but... A lot less angry today than they were a few years ago when you wrote this.

01:10:07.000 Right, but see that, and that's a good, the point is, as they look into it, they either realize that I'm correct, you know, all the rest of us that say this are correct, and then they join us, or they get so upset at the thought that they just become quiet.

01:10:23.000 So what's happening through time is that this is growing.

01:10:27.000 It's not shrinking.

01:10:28.000 You know, nobody has been able to disprove anything.

01:10:31.000 In fact, recently the professor Jones of Brigham Young University has looked into it with his class and he's also standing by us now.

01:10:39.000 He's the physics professor at BYU, Stephen Jones, who came out with a scathing scientific report on how it was impossible for those twin towers to fall by the airplane or the fire.

01:10:52.000 Right, and see, one of the key points here that What some of us have been making for quite a while now is those towers came down in less than 10 seconds, which is as fast as objects free fall through the air.

01:11:06.000 You were the first person to say that, Eric, that I'm aware of.

01:11:10.000 Oh, you haven't heard that too many times?

01:11:12.000 No, you were the first person that I heard say that years ago.

01:11:15.000 Oh, well, see, this alone is enough proof that those towers were blown up.

01:11:21.000 And see, what's happening is that people are getting caught up in a lot of the details.

01:11:25.000 You see, the people who are trying to cover this up, what they'll do is they'll say, you know, but where are the wingtips of the planes that hit the towers?

01:11:33.000 Or, you know, how do we know what kind of planes?

01:11:36.000 Maybe they were 737s.

01:11:37.000 You see, we don't know.

01:11:38.000 Red Herrings.

01:11:39.000 Yeah, Red Herrings.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, we don't know all the details.

01:11:42.000 We never will figure out the details.

01:11:44.000 We don't know You know, whether the planes were switched to some airport like Stewart International and some drones were taken...

01:11:53.000 We don't know the details, but there are certain things that prove beyond any doubt that those towers were demolished with explosives.

01:12:00.000 And that, in turn, takes the whole government story out.

01:12:04.000 It just kicks the leg out from under it. 1.00

01:12:06.000 Because, how did the terrorists do that?

01:12:09.000 And how did the terrorists blow up Building 7?

01:12:12.000 And then why is the media covering up?

01:12:14.000 This is what starts getting people scared when they start realizing, once you realize They blew those towers up, and they blew Building 7 up, then you realize the media is lying to us.

01:12:24.000 I don't want people to be scared, certainly, but I know people are.

01:12:27.000 I think concern, grave concern, would certainly describe, you know, my personal attitude towards the media's complacency, the government's complacency, the moving in packs of terrorists, and of course killing all of these thousands and thousands of people on that day, and everything that's happened since.

01:12:46.000 Well, if you had to treat me again like a neophyte, that's fine.

01:12:51.000 Let's use the rhetorical fashion here today, Eric.

01:12:54.000 Treat me like a neophyte.

01:12:55.000 What is the first thing you would tell me about 9-11 to get my interest?

01:13:00.000 Well, different people are affected by different things, depending on your background.

01:13:04.000 Like, if you're just a typical person, I would give you the, you know, Building 7.

01:13:09.000 That seems to affect most people.

01:13:11.000 Because, you see, this is something most people don't even know about, this 47-story building.

01:13:16.000 Steel frame.

01:13:17.000 Completely steel frame.

01:13:19.000 It's 47 stories.

01:13:20.000 It's almost 600 feet tall.

01:13:22.000 At 530 in the afternoon, the entire building just pulverizes itself for no apparent reason.

01:13:29.000 And the government has no explanation for it.

01:13:32.000 And the best thing to do is to help someone watch the video of this thing come down.

01:13:36.000 Take a look at the photos that show there's almost no fire anywhere.

01:13:40.000 It was never hit by an airplane.

01:13:42.000 And you've got to visualize this in the city that you're in right now.

01:13:45.000 You've got to look outside at a 47-story building and just imagine the thing.

01:13:50.000 just suddenly dropping into a pile of rubble.

01:13:52.000 And then imagine all the news reporters ignore it, and the police ignore it.

01:13:57.000 Well, initially, let's correct that real quick.

01:14:00.000 Initially, I believe it was Dan Rather that said it fell and looked like a controlled demolition.

01:14:04.000 Oh, the initial reports, yeah.

01:14:05.000 But that was his opinion, of course.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, the initial reports out there saying, boy, it looks just like when you put explosives in a building.

01:14:11.000 And then we had Larry Silverstein later come out on a PBS special.

01:14:16.000 Most of the listeners of this show are aware of it.

01:14:18.000 But again, something worth mentioning.

01:14:20.000 And he says that at some point they decided to pull the building.

01:14:24.000 And then there are multiple interviews with people who work in controlled demolition that verify again, pull, the meaning pull, does mean to demolish the building, to go ahead, the charges are set, go ahead, push the button, pull it, it's ready to go.

01:14:40.000 And I guess on that note, Silverstein came out recently and tried to say, well of course I want to clarify that statement by pull, I mean get the firefighters out of the building, which is contrary to all terminology we know about controlled demolitions.

01:14:54.000 Well, furthermore, if you replace the word it, pull it, with pull the battalion, the statement he makes doesn't make any sense anyway.

01:15:03.000 See, there is no way to interpret his remark In any way that makes any sense.

01:15:09.000 The only thing I would say is that his entire remark on television was meant to intimidate all the government officials into just keeping their mouths shut.

01:15:18.000 You know, he's basically saying, I'm going to do what I want and you people obey or else.

01:15:22.000 Because nothing he says makes sense.

01:15:25.000 They couldn't possibly have demolished the building in an afternoon.

01:15:28.000 They couldn't have just pulled out a Yeah.

01:15:30.000 Battalion and then sat back and watched the building collapse.

01:15:33.000 Nothing makes any sense except that it was an intimidation technique.

01:15:37.000 Er, tell people what was housed in Building 7, what Building 7 was.

01:15:41.000 Many people allege that it was the central operating center for this entire event.

01:15:47.000 Well, that's what I think because on the 23rd floor of this building, they had this special reinforced area.

01:15:55.000 Bulletproof, bomb resistant glass that was capable of withstanding a hundred and sixty mile per hour wind.

01:16:03.000 This is FEMA headquarters, CIA headquarters, FBI, Mayor Giuliani, command control.

01:16:09.000 Of course they had, I know, I believe they had, what was it, thousands and thousands and thousands of gallons of fuel in order to run generators in that building?

01:16:18.000 Yeah, there's a lot of documents for court cases, evidence.

01:16:21.000 Yes.

01:16:22.000 And so, there's a lot of reasons people wanted, you know, people that were being investigated by The government would have wanted to destroy that building just to get rid of some of the evidence against them.

01:16:33.000 I think some Enron documents were either there or in the towers, I forget.

01:16:37.000 But there was a lot of documents, a lot of evidence, and so that's one of the many reasons they'd want to get rid of that building.

01:16:44.000 Plus, I think they were, you know, if you look at that 23rd floor, here we have an office building with this reinforced bunker with its own air supply.

01:16:52.000 So that could have been the command center where they're running this whole operation.

01:16:56.000 So there's a lot of reasons to get rid of the building.

01:16:58.000 If that's the command center, you definitely want to destroy it.

01:17:01.000 And as you point out, I mean, there is no real official explanation.

01:17:06.000 That is an explanation endorsed by the government, an official explanation as to why Building 7 fell, why it fell the way it did.

01:17:14.000 There are a number of hypotheses, there are a number of theories coming out by minions of the government, but nothing that the government has specifically co-signed.

01:17:23.000 That's a very good point.

01:17:24.000 The FEMA report that came out in 2003 says we don't know how it came down.

01:17:30.000 Their following report, the 9-11 Commission report, didn't even address the issue at all.

01:17:35.000 They just ignored it.

01:17:36.000 Because you can't explain it.

01:17:38.000 There is no way you can explain how that building came down.

01:17:41.000 It didn't come down because of a fire.

01:17:43.000 There were just a couple little fires in it.

01:17:45.000 It didn't come down from airplane crashes because nothing hit it.

01:17:48.000 There is no way to explain it.

01:17:50.000 It is only explainable through explosives.

01:17:53.000 And so, that right there, that building alone is enough to tear apart the whole government story about these Arab hijackers. 0.85

01:18:01.000 That is a sign that somebody loaded that building with explosives beforehand.

01:18:05.000 What would people... I've talked to a lot of people about Building 7 as well and usually the response I get is they try to move on to another issue.

01:18:13.000 That's right!

01:18:14.000 There's just no way to really figure it out.

01:18:17.000 But have you heard any, I guess, adequate arguments or debates against using Building 7 as a piece of evidence?

01:18:23.000 No.

01:18:25.000 I think it's one of the best pieces because, like you say, No one can explain it.

01:18:30.000 There is no way to explain it without explosives.

01:18:32.000 We're going to come right back more on 9-11 as we're revisiting it.

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01:23:33.000 One thing I like about you, Eric Huffschmidt, is that you're not judgmental.

01:23:37.000 You're not a gatekeeper.

01:23:38.000 You're not out there trying to control all the information about 9-11.

01:23:42.000 You're simply trying to give your own perspective, which is really, folks, a scientific analysis, almost, of what happened on 9-11.

01:23:49.000 But I have to hand it to you, Eric, because I'm real sick of these gatekeepers.

01:23:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:55.000 Well, you've got to remember, people have to keep in mind that this 9-11 attack is not just like a burglary here.

01:24:02.000 You know, this is a major mass murder.

01:24:05.000 And then they got wars.

01:24:06.000 But see, what I didn't even realize when I first wrote the book is this is the tip of the iceberg.

01:24:12.000 This is where, you know, once you start looking into it, you can realize why it's so important that why they are trying so hard to cover this up.

01:24:19.000 It's not an isolated incident.

01:24:21.000 If you look at people like, um, see this is where, if you look at Benjamin Friedman's speech, this is, he in 1961, what he was talking about, and then you got Myron Fagan also in the 60s, this is actually coming from a group of people that have been working, you know, through the generations even.

01:24:40.000 Same people that might have been behind the Northwoods document.

01:24:43.000 Right, some of the same people, you know, the organization itself, you know, will come and go, change members, you know, As people come and go and, you know, die and whatever.

01:24:53.000 But some bail out of it.

01:24:54.000 Like apparently that's what Benjamin Friedman did.

01:24:57.000 He was partly in it in the beginning and then decided, what am I doing here?

01:25:01.000 I don't want to be with these people.

01:25:02.000 And he turns on them and exposes them.

01:25:06.000 Yeah, it almost sounds like John F. Kennedy might have been thinking in that same way, shape, and fashion.

01:25:12.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:25:13.000 And they mentioned, you'll see that too, that they've got to get rid of him.

01:25:17.000 He had so many enemies, of course, you can't even nail down.

01:25:21.000 That's very true.

01:25:22.000 And same thing with Robert Kennedy, who, RFK, who was a staunch anti-communist, was for all of the anti-communist covert activities, and then woke up himself.

01:25:32.000 Right, and what's interesting is if you listen to Myron Fagan, he says these same people started the communist movement, and they're starting the fights that go on between the different races in this country.

01:25:42.000 They're constantly creating fights, constantly creating hatred and trouble for everybody, and we're all victims, every one of us.

01:25:51.000 And he even mentions You know, a lot of these people, they're Jewish, so if you criticize them, you're anti-Semitic, but he points out they are sacrificing Jews in this process. 0.69

01:26:01.000 Yeah.

01:26:02.000 As they've done throughout the centuries.

01:26:04.000 And yet, to build up anger, even... See, they can then hide behind it, for one thing, plus it gets Jews on their side, because then they get scared that, uh-oh, the Nazis are after us, the Communists are after us. 0.54

01:26:15.000 And it's just constant, create hatred between different races, between men and women, between political parties, and it even talks about how they need to find people that, you know, the Patsy's that they can put into political offices. 0.56

01:26:28.000 Which is what you look at our government today, that's all it is! 1.00

01:26:31.000 You know, it's just one idiot or another just following orders. 1.00

01:26:37.000 Matrix moles, as I call them. 0.99

01:26:39.000 Have you had a chance, I think it's the History Channel, Eric, that is debuting a new movie about Flight 93 and they put together a dramatization of the events of the Shanksville crash and the subsequent events that led to the crash.

01:26:58.000 I know you've investigated.

01:26:59.000 Have you been to Shanksville?

01:27:01.000 I haven't personally, but there's one movie I saw, The Flight, that fought back.

01:27:06.000 Is that the one you're referring to?

01:27:07.000 Well, there's a brand new one out that just came out, and from the clips I saw, the first clip is one of the victim's wives on the phone with 9-11.

01:27:20.000 The authorities saying, my husband just called me from the plane, there are terrorists on the plane, they're threatening to kill the passengers, blah, blah, blah.

01:27:29.000 But really, I think a dramatization based on, I'm not going to say it's fact, I mean, what are they basing this on?

01:27:37.000 What evidence do they have to continue with this story?

01:27:40.000 Well, it really looks like a lot of this is coming right out of some Hollywood producer or something.

01:27:45.000 Absolutely.

01:27:46.000 And Jerry Bruckheimer.

01:27:48.000 I don't know who's doing it, but Hollywood is somehow involved in this, and the media.

01:27:55.000 So, I mean, it's not even a joke to say that it's coming from Hollywood people.

01:27:58.000 I mean, if you look at who's in it, look who's covering it up.

01:28:02.000 You know, these are the people.

01:28:04.000 They're not doing this because they're naive.

01:28:07.000 You know, they're not creating these, like this movie you just mentioned, Flight 93.

01:28:11.000 The people that created this are not naive.

01:28:14.000 Have you ever tried to use your cell phone on an airplane?

01:28:17.000 Oh yeah, it doesn't work.

01:28:18.000 I borrowed a cell phone.

01:28:19.000 It wasn't mine, but it won't work.

01:28:21.000 I have, and actually there have been announcements long after 9-11 that the technology is now there so that you can use a cell phone on an airplane.

01:28:29.000 I believe they changed that to in-flight phones, conveniently enough.

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01:32:16.000 I'd like you to stay on topic with 9-11 or state-sponsored terror, but of course, this is your soapbox, so whatever you want to bring up will be fine.

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01:32:33.000 Eric Huffschmidt is our guest.

01:32:35.000 We're talking about all things 9-11.

01:32:38.000 Eric, as we went out of that last segment, I'd mentioned that the government cover story seemed to change.

01:32:44.000 Not really, you know, put on the record solidly, but now they're getting away from the cell phone thing and they're starting to say in-flight phones, which would prove again that initially their cover story was wrong.

01:32:56.000 I wonder how this movie will portray it.

01:32:58.000 What do you want to take a guess?

01:32:59.000 Are they going to be using in-flight phones to call their loved ones now instead of the cell phones?

01:33:03.000 Or are they going to stick to the cell phone story?

01:33:06.000 Yeah, I would hope they'd get rid of those cell phones, because in the other Flight 93 movie, they were using cell phones, even the headset types.

01:33:15.000 So hopefully they will have fixed that, but you see, when you watch this movie... Are they trying to tell us something with this?

01:33:21.000 I mean, we all know you can't use the cell phones at high altitudes, not near the cell towers.

01:33:26.000 I mean, is this their little signal to us that we did it?

01:33:29.000 Well, see, you don't know.

01:33:30.000 Sometimes they might be doing it just to rub it in your face, because, you see, when you look at Building 7, They could have taken that one down at night when no one was looking.

01:33:39.000 They've let at least five different video cameras that I'm aware of film it.

01:33:44.000 And then they let people take still photos of it.

01:33:47.000 And it's almost as if, it's like, yeah, what are you gonna do about it?

01:33:52.000 You know, it's almost like they're doing it on purpose, just to shock and just create fear.

01:33:57.000 It really hits the, I guess, truth community, the patriot community, give it whatever name you want, the resistance, because these are the people that are going to notice the inconsistencies.

01:34:06.000 And many people are going to be paranoid and afraid knowing that the government would make this bold of a move.

01:34:12.000 The globalists, the government, we're going to try to name some names today, folks.

01:34:15.000 Here's another angle for you, Eric. 1.00

01:34:17.000 These terrorists are pretty stupid. 1.00

01:34:19.000 I mean, here's the thing. 1.00

01:34:20.000 They were able to pull off this mastermind event attacking two sites, two most controlled, most secure sites on the planet Earth, the Pentagon and the World Trade Center Towers. 0.98

01:34:30.000 They're that smart, they were able to do all of that, but too stupid to take away cell phones or in-flight phones from the passengers? 0.98

01:34:37.000 Oh yeah, I know. 0.98

01:34:38.000 The way they... See, the fact that they even got into these restricted air spaces is something That's, to some people, right there, very key evidence.

01:34:47.000 If you look at 93, how long was 93 lost off the, you know, with the transponders turned off?

01:34:52.000 I mean, they went almost to Ohio, didn't they?

01:34:54.000 Yes, and even in the movie, the TV movie made a remark about how they were looking for it, and the aircraft are, I mean, they're aware of it.

01:35:04.000 They know this thing is hijacked.

01:35:05.000 They're talking to the, they hear the air, they supposedly are hearing the hijackers saying, yeah, there's a bomb on board, everyone sit down.

01:35:12.000 So they're watching it.

01:35:13.000 And no one's doing anything.

01:35:16.000 It's just like the flights that hit the towers.

01:35:19.000 They're supposedly hearing messages from the hijackers and nobody does anything.

01:35:23.000 Now again, maybe something like the cell phones won't prove this overall conspiracy, but it is certainly one aspect, one component that can be used when trying to relate this information to other people.

01:35:35.000 What about the drills?

01:35:37.000 Eric Huffschmid.

01:35:38.000 I mean, we've seen this happen at the 7-7 bombings in London.

01:35:41.000 We've seen this happen just with about every terrorist incident.

01:35:44.000 One of the callers called in today and mentioned a story that we're carrying at Infowars.com.

01:35:49.000 Another nuke exercise in Carolina.

01:35:51.000 Defense Department to hold second anti-terror drill.

01:35:54.000 Do you want to comment on these drills?

01:35:56.000 Because it seems to me to be quite a coincidence.

01:35:58.000 Yes, in fact, the 7-7 drill might help people understand 9-11 because that one was this Really blatant.

01:36:05.000 There was a... I think you guys have a clip of it too, don't you, on Prison Planet?

01:36:10.000 Yes.

01:36:11.000 That guy going on TV, the policeman or whatever he was, saying, boy, this is really suspicious.

01:36:16.000 I mean, interesting.

01:36:17.000 He doesn't even think it's suspicious.

01:36:18.000 This is interesting.

01:36:19.000 We were running an exercise of terrorists with backpacks and practically the same thing and the same trains.

01:36:26.000 People don't even get it.

01:36:27.000 This is how you fool a security department or the Air Force.

01:36:32.000 You run an exercise that's almost identical to what's happening.

01:36:36.000 Then when the reports first come in, like on 9-11, they had exercises that very morning, several of them, not just one, several of them in different locations.

01:36:46.000 Where they've got planes crashing into buildings or planes being hijacked.

01:36:50.000 So what happens is when the first reports come through, some people say, well, yeah, we're running exercises.

01:36:56.000 And they had been running multiple exercises of planes being hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon for years.

01:37:01.000 In fact, this was even on the Pentagon's own website until people started discussing it, which makes the absurd statement of Condoleezza Rice, as I like to call her, we had no idea that they would ever take planes and use them as missiles Absolutely preposterous.

01:37:16.000 I mean, that has to blow any possible credibility that she ever had or ever will have.

01:37:22.000 I know.

01:37:22.000 Right.

01:37:22.000 They blatant lies here.

01:37:25.000 There's so many lies.

01:37:26.000 This is what, when you try to explain 9-11 to people, you really have to point out to them, There's so many holes in their theory that, you know, you're just going to give them a few... I mean, if they lie once and they obfuscate again and again and again, they must be trying to hide something.

01:37:41.000 I mean, that would be the instant analysis by any criminal investigator.

01:37:46.000 Right.

01:37:46.000 I mean, you don't have to catch it.

01:37:47.000 You don't have to figure every little detail out, but you were catching them on so many lies, so many very big, very important ones.

01:37:55.000 So you've got things like the towers coming down, the Air Force not doing anything.

01:37:59.000 There's so many of these things.

01:38:00.000 That we are proving it.

01:38:02.000 We have proven this years ago.

01:38:04.000 Eric.

01:38:05.000 Yeah?

01:38:05.000 I want to tell you that NORAD stood down because of incompetence.

01:38:09.000 I know.

01:38:10.000 Well, that's another one.

01:38:11.000 Here's another one.

01:38:12.000 How'd they get away with this?

01:38:14.000 Can you imagine going to a dentist and he accidentally drills a hole through your face?

01:38:18.000 And, oh, I'm incompetent.

01:38:21.000 Sorry.

01:38:22.000 Come back next week and I'll fix that for you.

01:38:24.000 I mean, if these people are truly as incompetent as they claim, that alone should be reason to get rid of them.

01:38:31.000 I mean, you don't put people this incompetent!

01:38:34.000 We've seen this again and again and again, whether it was with 9-11, whether it was with Afghanistan and Iraq, whether it was with the Hurricane Katrina and Rita.

01:38:42.000 We caused the problem.

01:38:44.000 It was our incompetence that caused all this problem.

01:38:46.000 But stick with us.

01:38:48.000 We broke it.

01:38:48.000 We'll fix it.

01:38:49.000 You can trust us. 1.00

01:38:50.000 They're always using this, well, we're just stupid. 0.97

01:38:53.000 Sorry, guys. 0.95

01:38:53.000 Sorry. 0.95

01:38:55.000 I mean, Katrina's a good one. 1.00

01:38:57.000 I mean, the levies break for some mysterious reasons, and then they mysteriously don't do anything. 1.00

01:39:02.000 Oh, we're stupid. 0.99

01:39:03.000 Sorry. 0.98

01:39:03.000 And as a listener pointed out earlier in our program when he was talking about Katrina, there was plenty of prior knowledge that that was going to happen. 0.98

01:39:11.000 Of course, in the case of 9-11, 2001, the events of prior knowledge are so voluminous, Eric, that you literally can write a whole 300-page book just on the prior knowledge aspect of 9-11.

01:39:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:25.000 Yeah, see, what it is, is this stuff is... and this is why this movement's growing, you see.

01:39:30.000 It's not shrinking.

01:39:31.000 As time goes on, more people are realizing, you know, we are telling the truth about it.

01:39:35.000 This is a big hoax, and we're the victims!

01:39:38.000 Yeah, we are underpaid, we have little to no resources, there's not enough of us certainly, though more and more are coming in all the time, and we've managed to make so much headway, to prove so many falsities, so many lies being put out by the administration, it's just a wonder that people could ever trust them again after the first lie, let alone after the 3000th lie.

01:40:02.000 Right, and the reason I think it's so easy for us with our, like you say, no money and hardly anybody, is that it's easy when you're just telling the truth.

01:40:11.000 It's not very hard.

01:40:12.000 It's very difficult to maintain a lie, because you've got to somehow suppress a lot of information.

01:40:17.000 And see, they've got a real hard job.

01:40:20.000 They're like pushing a boulder up a hill, and we're just pushing it the other direction.

01:40:24.000 We've got the easy job, and that's why a handful of people with no money can do so much damage to them.

01:40:31.000 I'm going to go to the phones now and let you people take a crack at Eric Huffschmid and myself.

01:40:35.000 Any questions you might have about 9-11, how to explain it, I guess any cover stories that you've been unable to debunk yourself.

01:40:43.000 I think that would be an important line of questioning, though anything you want to talk about is certainly fine with us.

01:40:48.000 And again, the number 800-259-9231.

01:40:50.000 It's the Alex Jones Show.

01:40:52.000 Let's talk to Jim in New Mexico.

01:40:54.000 Jim, are you still with us?

01:40:56.000 I'm here, Jack.

01:40:57.000 Thanks for holding.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:40:58.000 I really appreciate your show.

01:41:01.000 Actually, I called in in the first hour regarding a different topic, something that was brought up yesterday.

01:41:08.000 But regarding this topic, I just would like to ask your guest if he had heard anything about the fact that these buildings in the World Trade Center complex had been wired with C-4 explosives from day one.

01:41:25.000 Oh, you mean when they were built?

01:41:27.000 Well, see, this is another thing.

01:41:28.000 The idea that the construction workers were putting explosives in any building.

01:41:32.000 It doesn't have to be those buildings.

01:41:33.000 I mean, the idea of that is just... I think they're just throwing that out there to throw people off course again.

01:41:39.000 Isn't it kind of a red herring again?

01:41:41.000 It's kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

01:41:42.000 When you try to get too detailed here.

01:41:44.000 I mean, look.

01:41:45.000 We can look at the buildings.

01:41:47.000 We can see, and even the government has admitted it in some capacity, that the planes nor the fire could have caused those buildings to fall.

01:41:53.000 We've seen similar buildings.

01:41:55.000 One in Madrid, of course, comes to mind that didn't fall.

01:41:58.000 In fact, no building made like this has ever fallen from fire.

01:42:02.000 But then the questions start coming through, Eric.

01:42:05.000 Well, if it fell, how did it fell?

01:42:07.000 How did they plan those explosives?

01:42:10.000 And if you don't have questions, I guess answers for these questions, You tend to lose some people, but I think we're losing sight of the fact that the government's cover story is that airplanes brought down these buildings.

01:42:20.000 All we have to prove, Eric, is that that couldn't have happened.

01:42:23.000 That's right.

01:42:24.000 That's a very important point you make.

01:42:26.000 We don't have to answer all the questions.

01:42:28.000 It's like someone, when you talk about Kennedy, and they say, well, what kind of bullet hit him?

01:42:31.000 Was it Coppercoat?

01:42:32.000 Holopoint? 0.82

01:42:33.000 Mercury field?

01:42:34.000 Who cares?

01:42:36.000 We'll never know the answers.

01:42:37.000 We'll never know the details.

01:42:39.000 And some of this stuff, they're throwing out, it's like a smorgasbord.

01:42:43.000 They're throwing out all kinds of nonsense, hoping people pick it up and waste their time.

01:42:48.000 And make a mistake, and that they can be discredited, certainly, as well.

01:42:51.000 I mean, look, I talked to a Major League Firefighter, and he said that there is a potential that C4 was embedded in the building.

01:42:58.000 Certainly they could do that.

01:43:00.000 Do we have any real evidence of that?

01:43:02.000 No, because they've taken all the evidence and left it and kept it away from the people so that we can't have an independent investigator look at some of the evidence.

01:43:11.000 That's pretty much where we go, number one.

01:43:13.000 Number two is that I did interview somebody once from Cantor Fitzgerald.

01:43:18.000 I believe they were taken out of the building for roughly, I believe, a week or ten days due to some electrical difficulties.

01:43:25.000 At that point, anybody could have went in there and wired whatever they wanted to.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, and see, the idea that they had put explosives in there in the first place, where they also have a switch to detonate it somewhere?

01:43:36.000 Like, where's the switch?

01:43:37.000 And what does it say on it?

01:43:38.000 Do not push this or the buildings blow up?

01:43:40.000 Well, you know, personally, I would think that if they had been wired with C-4 from day one, and they had been brought down with that C-4, that we would have been told.

01:43:48.000 Well, yeah, of course.

01:43:49.000 But you see, what it is, is every time you spend time on these issues, you're wasting time because it doesn't do us any good.

01:43:55.000 And also, if the C-4 had been utilized, Then people would have been removed from the building first.

01:44:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:03.000 Well, you see, but the thing is, when you're talking about these issues with people, you're wasting your time talking about it.

01:44:09.000 You really should tell people just don't do it.

01:44:11.000 Don't talk about it.

01:44:12.000 Don't waste your time on these.

01:44:15.000 This is something that you and your friends or you and like-minded individuals can debate and concoct theories over.

01:44:23.000 Not something you probably want to take to a neophyte.

01:44:26.000 Anything you don't absolutely know is obviously not the first plank of where you're going to start with this story.

01:44:33.000 I mean I've heard You know, tactical nukes could have been in the sub-basement, and I guess there's a possibility of that.

01:44:39.000 I mean, we have to remember that in the bottom, and Eric, you're more of an expert on this issue than me, but in the pit of Towers 1 and 2, there was molten lava and seismic activity that would, I guess, could signify a major explosion such as a small tactical nuke, which we know they have.

01:44:58.000 Well, there's actually a picture there.

01:44:59.000 They saved this blob.

01:45:01.000 It's about...

01:45:03.000 Three feet, maybe by four feet.

01:45:04.000 There's a picture of it.

01:45:05.000 It's on a video, Relics from the Rubble.

01:45:07.000 You can get the DVD.

01:45:09.000 What this is a sign of is that steel really did melt down in their basement.

01:45:13.000 And what Professor Jones is thinking is that they were using thermite in there for some reason, maybe to cut through some of the steel or get into the vault or something.

01:45:23.000 It wouldn't have been a nuclear bomb.

01:45:25.000 It would have been something like thermite, which you can burn it.

01:45:29.000 It doesn't make a lot of noise.

01:45:30.000 It won't blow up.

01:45:31.000 But what it produces is molten iron.

01:45:36.000 And what they found is this blob full of molten iron and concrete and junk.

01:45:41.000 And so it is possible that they actually used some thermite down there.

01:45:45.000 And then you've got eyewitnesses such as William Rodriguez and others that talk about explosions going on, you know, before the buildings fell in the sub-basements.

01:45:54.000 some eyewitness reports of giant hunks of metal machinery melting before the towers started to fall.

01:46:01.000 And when you put all of this together, it does raise a number of questions.

01:46:05.000 But again, do we have to have the answers to the questions or just ask the questions in order to deflate the government cover story?

01:46:12.000 Right.

01:46:13.000 All we want to do is kick the legs out from under the government story, and the details are what you do for fun with your friends.

01:46:19.000 But when you're talking in public, what you want to just do is get them with the points that are really serious.

01:46:27.000 These towers falling down in 10 seconds.

01:46:29.000 Building 7 falling down.

01:46:30.000 You know, those sort of things.

01:46:32.000 Yeah, and we're outlining these for you today.

01:46:34.000 Anything else today, Jim?

01:46:35.000 Yeah, I wonder if I could bring up the topic I called in about originally real quick.

01:46:39.000 Go for it.

01:46:40.000 A fellow called in yesterday and mentioned the fact about global warming and his concerns about human emissions.

01:46:49.000 Contributing to global warming.

01:46:52.000 You said that, well, volcanoes that have been erupting for millions of years emit more carbon monoxide than humans have ever emitted.

01:47:02.000 Right.

01:47:03.000 I did a quick search on the internet and found out that the three most common gases that are released by volcanoes are actually water and sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide.

01:47:13.000 There's no mention whatsoever of carbon monoxide.

01:47:16.000 Well, I don't know if I was correct on that or not.

01:47:18.000 I mean, I was throwing that out, thinking on my feet.

01:47:21.000 I know that that is generally the excuse used by people who are debunking the global warming theory.

01:47:28.000 I mean, see, here's my problem, is that I don't trust the environmental industry.

01:47:32.000 So, I don't think I'm getting any accurate information.

01:47:34.000 When the environmental industry actually works with the biggest oil companies in the world, I know that there is some other agenda here.

01:47:43.000 Well, the volcano eruptions are a common theory used to again debunk the issues of global warming, which has happened and it can be proved through scientific evidence.

01:47:54.000 Eric, I'm sure you know a little bit about this.

01:47:56.000 Through the millennia, you can go back, you can look and see global warming.

01:48:00.000 Well, if there was global warming without any automobiles, then where did it come from?

01:48:05.000 Well, you know, that's another thing, Jack.

01:48:08.000 I also agree that global warming has been occurring, you know, over the millennia.

01:48:12.000 It's this natural cycle.

01:48:13.000 Pre-ringed data proves that.

01:48:15.000 And I feel like the global warming issue is being put out front as an environmental issue.

01:48:21.000 It is a huge industry, a multi-billion dollar industry, and I gotta say, I mean, I don't like giving Bush a lot of credit for anything, but not signing on to the Kyoto Agreement has to be probably better for us than signing into it.

01:48:33.000 Eric, do you have any comments on that?

01:48:35.000 I'm not, I gotta tell you, I'm not a real expert on it.

01:48:37.000 I know a little bit about it, and I'm able to throw out a few things here and there, but I haven't done extensive studies on it.

01:48:43.000 No, I just, after looking at the way the government lies about things like 9-11 and all the rest, I think you've got to be suspicious of everything these people are saying.

01:48:51.000 Especially the media.

01:48:52.000 I've heard that global warming is caused by cow flatulence and according to the BP commercial, by us breathing.

01:48:59.000 One more quick thing if I could, Jack.

01:49:02.000 Sure.

01:49:04.000 The environmental industry is a huge industry controlled by Prince Philip and other nefarious organizations, people at the top.

01:49:12.000 You know, perhaps there are a couple of organizations, or a few, that are infiltrated by these nefarious people and organizations that are manipulating this whole argument.

01:49:24.000 Nature is the life support system of our planet.

01:49:26.000 So you obviously believe in global warming.

01:49:28.000 I mean, that's the crux of the call.

01:49:30.000 You believe that global warming is happening.

01:49:32.000 No, I just don't want to see environmental organizations demonized.

01:49:35.000 You know, everybody lumped together.

01:49:37.000 Well, we'll talk about this on the other side because I have plenty of evidence on this.

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01:53:05.000 Going back to Jim and New Mexico's call, I mean, look, we're not trying to demonize anyone who cares about the environment.

01:53:12.000 That is far from my own objective, and certainly you should know, we should all be intelligent to know that I don't speak for Alex Jones, I'm just sitting in for his show.

01:53:21.000 I have my own opinions, and those opinions are based largely on a lot of research and my own personal experience.

01:53:28.000 And I've met a lot of environmentalists who are true blue.

01:53:31.000 They really, you know, have their, I guess, the nature or the environment's best interest at heart.

01:53:38.000 But we have to understand that every major environmentalist group was funded initially and initially infiltrated by, say, the Club of Rome.

01:53:48.000 I mean, you mentioned Prince Philip earlier.

01:53:51.000 I've mentioned Ted Turner and other philanthropists and all these tax-free Uh, organizations such as the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford, the Carnegie Mellon Foundation, the Freeman Foundation, and others who really, for some reason, just love to care about the environment, but they do the opposite.

01:54:11.000 So this is the thing.

01:54:12.000 You can say whatever you want, you can put out whatever propaganda you want, but if you're not doing something that is in sync with what you're saying, then we're going to have a problem.

01:54:22.000 The Club of Rome, of course, if you've never heard of it, was created by meetings at the Rockefeller Family's estate in Bellagio, Italy.

01:54:29.000 It was and is, that being the Club of Rome, is their role to issue propaganda about environmental crisis and to use that to justify the centralization of power.

01:54:39.000 Again, problem, reaction, solution.

01:54:41.000 And the suppression of industrial development in both the West and the so-called third world.

01:54:46.000 It also is another justification for what?

01:54:49.000 Population control, folks.

01:54:51.000 At the end of every environmentalist mantra, whether they're porch environmentalists and really out trying to help the world, or they're the instigators and the key movers and shakers of the multi-billion dollar environmentalist movement, the end solution is always depopulation.

01:55:09.000 Eric, I know you understand that.

01:55:11.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

01:55:11.000 I just didn't get too much into the global warming either issue, but...

01:55:16.000 I know what you mean.

01:55:16.000 We have to be critical of all of this stuff, because there's so much lying going on.

01:55:20.000 I mean, we're talking about things we can prove.

01:55:22.000 We're talking about 9-11 and what is the best evidence that we have.

01:55:27.000 And I gotta tell you, not only do I not trust the environmentalists running the environmentalist movement, and even those that are countering the environmentalist movement, but I don't think there's been any real, serious, documented proof about global warming.

01:55:41.000 One day it's global warming, the other day it's another ice age.

01:55:44.000 Oh, they do the same thing with food. 0.92

01:55:45.000 What causes cancer?

01:55:46.000 But you see, this is when you start looking, when you start realizing what Benjamin Friedman and that Fagan say, what they are doing is they're creating a lot of the fights.

01:55:55.000 They create a lot of the different groups that fight.

01:55:58.000 They're fooling a lot of us.

01:56:00.000 A lot of these groups are not real, or they're infiltrated.

01:56:03.000 And the deception is just shocking, because you see, they profit no matter what.

01:56:08.000 As long as they can keep people fighting with each other, If the American people are fighting with each other, they don't realize their government is under control.

01:56:16.000 Yeah, the Balkanization, that's a really good point, and turning us against one another, and that probably, at the end of the day, is the real agenda here. 0.98

01:56:24.000 But again, when we look at environmentalists, it's the same thing.

01:56:27.000 You know, I've heard people speaking about immigration, Eric, and this is how they put it.

01:56:31.000 We have too many people.

01:56:33.000 It's not that it's illegal, it's not that the wages are being driven down so much, it's not everything else that goes with illegal immigration, it's that there's too many people.

01:56:43.000 I see the end mantra.

01:56:44.000 In fact, I went out and saw the Georgia Guidestones when I was in Georgia, and these were erected by another shadowy group of men with pseudonyms, and it is the America's Stonehenge.

01:56:53.000 They have ten commandments in six different languages.

01:56:56.000 The first edict, the first commandment, is that we have to reduce the population down to 500 million. 0.70

01:57:03.000 And then the rest go on to birth control, environmental causes, Agenda 21 stuff, world government.

01:57:12.000 Oh yeah, and I think they're also trying to create fights between the Mexicans and the Americans right now, too. 0.62

01:57:18.000 It's hard to defeat a nation where the people are united, but it's not difficult when they're all busy fighting with each other, you see.

01:57:25.000 Eric Huffschmidt will stay with us.

01:57:25.000 Excellent point.

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01:58:19.000 I'm not sure, you might get a few replays, might be back Monday.

01:58:22.000 No reason not to listen to this program every day, as it's good to reinforce information.

01:58:27.000 That's what we're trying to do today with Eric Huffschmid, talking about 9-11.

01:58:31.000 And it's funny, Eric, I have you on today, and the debunkers called yesterday.

01:58:35.000 The debunkers didn't call when you were We're on today.

01:58:38.000 They missed it.

01:58:39.000 Well, there you go.

01:58:42.000 You could make a serious argument.

01:58:44.000 I think I did a pretty good job.

01:58:45.000 I mean, I raised a few issues and of course the conversation kept moving to the next thing.

01:58:50.000 There were never any real confrontations on the issues that I brought up.

01:58:54.000 But again, the debunkers called yesterday and now we have Eric Huffschmidt today, an expert on 9-11 and there's no sign of him.

01:59:01.000 Well, it's probably just as well they just waste your time.

01:59:03.000 See, what people have to realize is they, this is, they are going to try to cover this up and they're going to try to distract you with the silly issues, like, where are the wingtips that hit the, from the airplanes that hit the towers?

01:59:14.000 People have to, you know, remember, don't get caught up in this, because every day you waste, it's another day that's gone by, and another, look at all the terrorist attacks we've had since 9-11.

01:59:26.000 Train bombings.

01:59:29.000 I mean, there's nothing, so far there's nothing stopping them.

01:59:38.000 And in the meanwhile, the economy is getting worse, the fighting is increasing everywhere in the country.

01:59:42.000 It's getting worse, it's not getting better, and see, we're not going to help it if people get caught up on these little details, like, well, where did the planes go if they didn't hit the Pentagon?

01:59:52.000 Who cares?

01:59:53.000 You know, that's all well and good, and I just want to clarify, I don't think you're saying that people shouldn't publish this type of information, people shouldn't investigate this type of information.

02:00:02.000 I think what you're... because, again, that would be more gatekeeping.

02:00:05.000 What you're saying, Eric, is if you want to make the most salient argument related to 9-11, here's how you're going to do it.

02:00:12.000 When you're spreading the information, you want to stick with the important points and don't get caught up.

02:00:17.000 Now, if you want to, in your own time, You know, with your friends that already know about this.

02:00:22.000 Once people know about this, then it's fine to discuss the details.

02:00:25.000 And it's okay to investigate even the most wildest theory, because again, a lot of theories were considered wild until they were proven to be correct, so...

02:00:35.000 It's not a bad idea to investigate some outlandish theory related to 9-11 or any other scandal, but certainly you want to use the best information you have.

02:00:44.000 It's kind of like almost a sales technique.

02:00:46.000 You want to use the stuff that you know is going to work and not the stuff that you think is going to work, and you actually want to let your prospect do most of the talking.

02:00:55.000 That's another trick of the trade I'll pass along to you.

02:00:58.000 I want to talk with you, Eric, about the core columns, the I just want to get off the 9-11 thing just for a second.

02:01:04.000 in your book, Painful Questions.

02:01:06.000 Let's go back to the calls.

02:01:07.000 We're making these people wait quite a while, and I want to make sure everybody gets on.

02:01:10.000 And Johnny from British Columbia.

02:01:13.000 There's another reference there to Babylon and Queen Samiramus in Vancouver, British Columbia.

02:01:19.000 But Johnny, thank you for holding so long.

02:01:20.000 You're on the air.

02:01:21.000 I just want to get off the 9-11 thing just for a second.

02:01:21.000 Hey there.

02:01:25.000 Yesterday or last night, Canada took one step closer to what we call the New World Order.

02:01:33.000 uh...

02:01:35.000 I'm not sure if you guys are aware that... I talked about it earlier in the show today that you've got a new quote-unquote conservative government now.

02:01:43.000 Well, kind of like yours, right?

02:01:47.000 I mean, Paul Martin is a member of the Bilderberg Group.

02:01:52.000 Harper is a member of the Bilderberg Group.

02:01:55.000 And you're our ambassador to the United States.

02:01:59.000 Frank McKenna is also a member as of 2005.

02:02:01.000 He is going to take probably the leadership of the liberals.

02:02:07.000 Who probably will get into the Prime Minister's position down the road.

02:02:11.000 So as cozy as Paul Martin was with George W. Bush, I mean they didn't send people to Iraq, I guess that's one of the things they put their foot down on.

02:02:20.000 You feel that this is a closer move now, that they're moving even closer in Canada to the New World Order?

02:02:26.000 Well, Paul Martin... I'll keep you after this commercial.

02:02:30.000 You waited a long time, Johnny.

02:02:31.000 I'll let you finish your point and then we're going to get into Tom and Andy and Ruben and others holding.

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02:06:00.000 Eric Huffschmid with us today.

02:06:02.000 I think it's important, you know, everything seems to hinge on 9-11 in our society today.

02:06:08.000 Not just here in this country, but all over the world.

02:06:11.000 So it's really important to constantly revisit this, to keep this in the forefront of the information war.

02:06:18.000 I'm sure you'd agree with that, Eric.

02:06:19.000 Oh yeah, they're using this.

02:06:22.000 The guy was saying Canada is being manipulated.

02:06:25.000 They're taking over Canada, America, Europe, New Zealand, Australia.

02:06:30.000 9-11 is not just an isolated incident.

02:06:33.000 And China and Russia came out a couple of months ago and said they want a new world order that's focused around the United Nations.

02:06:40.000 I mean, just when you think they're a viable enemy, they seem to join the cause.

02:06:44.000 See, this is why I say I have to emphasize this.

02:06:44.000 Well, yeah.

02:06:46.000 You look at what Benjamin Friedman says and Myron Fagan, they are manipulating all over the place.

02:06:52.000 This is a big network and people keep getting distracted by thinking, oh, it's just 9-11, it's just us.

02:06:58.000 Some people in other countries think, oh, it's 9-11, it's America.

02:07:00.000 Well, it's not us.

02:07:02.000 It isn't just America.

02:07:03.000 It's the banking groups, the media.

02:07:06.000 Who controls the media? 0.77

02:07:07.000 And you mentioned the stocks.

02:07:09.000 Remember the Enron and the stocks of 9-11?

02:07:11.000 I mean, you look at this.

02:07:13.000 Here are people investing in the stocks of American Airlines, United Airlines, and so on, making money just prior, in the few business days prior to 9-11, In several countries, they say, well, we're going to investigate.

02:07:28.000 America, Japan, Europe.

02:07:30.000 Where is the investigation?

02:07:32.000 They got squashed in all of these nations. 0.99

02:07:35.000 You're talking about the insider trading, or put options, as they call it.

02:07:38.000 I want to go back to that, but let's let Johnny finish up.

02:07:40.000 He's held a long time.

02:07:41.000 He wanted to make a point.

02:07:42.000 Johnny, in Vancouver, you're back on the Alex Jones Program.

02:07:46.000 Yeah, I basically think that Martin did half of the dismantling of Canada, and this guy's going to do the rest.

02:07:52.000 Well, I mean, that's the same thing here with Clinton and Bush.

02:07:54.000 Exactly.

02:07:55.000 Or Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton.

02:07:56.000 Just at this time, yeah, the good guys, according to this country, have made themselves look bad, so now we've...

02:08:04.000 I mean, isn't it a major problem, you can comment on this as well, Johnny, but Eric, isn't it a major problem when we look back, I mean, we can go back with George Herbert Walker Bush for quite a way, some even say to the Bay of Pigs and the Kennedy assassination, but we can definitely look at the Reagan administration and say, that was an administration controlled by George Herbert Walker Bush, skull and bones.

02:08:28.000 Member of Globalist, pledges his allegiance to the United Nations.

02:08:32.000 Then we've got the Clinton administration, which many people can make, I think, a pretty good argument, was also controlled by Bush.

02:08:39.000 Former Bush business partner, which is why we see today Barbara Bush coming out and saying that Bill Clinton is her son.

02:08:44.000 Okay?

02:08:46.000 And then we've got the eight years of George W. Bush, and then, well, magically there's a good possibility here we could have eight years of Hillary Clinton.

02:08:54.000 Again, Clintons and Bushes, Bushes and Clintons, as the song goes.

02:08:57.000 When you have this much power for this long, you're going to build quite a base.

02:09:02.000 Yeah, and they've been a while.

02:09:04.000 If you look at who killed Kennedy, they're even involved in that.

02:09:07.000 This is what I mean.

02:09:09.000 It goes back even generations before these people were born.

02:09:11.000 It's like a big network, and they might bring new people in.

02:09:14.000 Some people might drop out.

02:09:16.000 But it's big, and we've got to realize they have control of America.

02:09:20.000 They're getting Canada, Australia.

02:09:24.000 We don't want to lose sight of this and start thinking that it's just a couple, you know, one nation or maybe it's only Bush.

02:09:29.000 Johnny understands this.

02:09:30.000 How many of your fellow Canadians seem to understand it, Johnny?

02:09:33.000 I talked to a lot of people up there and they seem to really know what's going on, like you.

02:09:36.000 A majority, but the thing is there's a lot of people that are still in the dark and they still are in the false left-right paradigm that believe that That my side is better than your side, and they'll probably never wake up because that's just the way our society is, right?

02:09:52.000 I have one thing on the 9-11.

02:09:54.000 Go for it.

02:09:55.000 I believe that Darryl Bradford Smith is 100% correct on his whole justification of why 9-11 happened and who caused it. 0.98

02:10:06.000 I know a lot of people don't have the balls to actually say it out loud. 0.96

02:10:09.000 Right, he's the Zionist, right? 0.98

02:10:14.000 See, here again, I was on a couple tiny little radio stations, and after I was on, the people were basically threatened with their job if they put me on again.

02:10:22.000 And at one of the stations, he was even told they can't talk about Davon Kleist or his In Plain Sight video.

02:10:27.000 What people have to start doing is standing up to this, because like you said, they're afraid to talk.

02:10:32.000 But if any one of the stations that carry shows like this drop it, you know, people should be outraged.

02:10:38.000 They should be getting names of who dropped it.

02:10:41.000 Because they're dropping it for a reason.

02:10:43.000 They're dropping it because they are trying to suppress this information.

02:10:46.000 And people have to stand up to this.

02:10:48.000 Well, let me ask Johnny a question.

02:10:50.000 I want to go to these other calls, but he brought up an interesting point.

02:10:53.000 So, basically, let me put it out on the table for you, Johnny. 0.96

02:10:57.000 I don't think the Zionists are behind everything, so I have no balls. 1.00

02:11:00.000 Is that exactly what we're at here? 0.83

02:11:02.000 No, no, not at all.

02:11:02.000 Not at all.

02:11:03.000 But the thing is, They are a useful tool and they're certainly part of the overall scheme, but I'm having a hard time believing that if I don't talk about and pin everything to the Zionists that I somehow am emasculated. 1.00

02:11:17.000 No, the thing I'm saying is, and I include myself in there too, because I don't have the balls to say this out in public because you will be persecuted, and very fast.

02:11:27.000 But the thing is, the Zionists do have control. 0.98

02:11:30.000 Now, who controls the Zionists? 0.99

02:11:32.000 I believe, personally, That the control comes from higher up.

02:11:36.000 You want to call it the Illuminati?

02:11:37.000 You want to call it the Vatican?

02:11:38.000 Who knows?

02:11:39.000 But, the Zionists are very powerful in one corner, and then you've got the Vatican, who's just as powerful in another corner. 0.94

02:11:45.000 Now, is the Vatican controlling the Zionists, or is the Zionists controlling the Vatican? 0.77

02:11:48.000 Nobody really knows.

02:11:50.000 But, there are different branches of the New World Order, the Illuminati, that are doing stuff.

02:11:57.000 And at this moment, you can see in media, in television, that Zionists are very powerful. 1.00

02:12:03.000 In religion, it's the Vatican that's most powerful.

02:12:05.000 They have the most influence throughout the world.

02:12:08.000 So, you know, then there's the Freemasons.

02:12:10.000 You know, you don't know who is really... Well, I just happen to believe that the Lightbearers, these Luciferians in these secret societies are actually above Zionism and potentially even above the Catholic Church at this point. 0.72

02:12:22.000 I mean, they are running the Catholic Church.

02:12:24.000 It has been absorbed.

02:12:26.000 So, when you make these definitions, the problem is, you know, there are multiple definitions.

02:12:31.000 This is an Orwellian age that we live in.

02:12:34.000 And I think it's another trap.

02:12:35.000 Quite personally, I believe that.

02:12:37.000 Now, am I too scared to talk about Zionism?

02:12:41.000 Or am I too scared to talk about the Catholic Church?

02:12:44.000 If you listen to my show on a regular basis, you'll see that I'm not.

02:12:47.000 And I've certainly been persecuted, attacked violently for talking about things such as chemtrails, for instance.

02:12:54.000 So there are a number of things.

02:12:55.000 When I talked about the Nick Berg beheading being an inside job, I got seriously threatened.

02:13:02.000 So it's not through fear.

02:13:04.000 It's just that we don't believe it.

02:13:05.000 Let me clarify.

02:13:06.000 We just don't believe it.

02:13:07.000 That's all.

02:13:07.000 My comment wasn't directed towards you or anybody on this radio station.

02:13:11.000 It's directed towards people I encounter in my daily life.

02:13:14.000 That the minute they hear that, they go, Oh, well, you know, the minute you bring in The Jewish conspiracy of any type, even if you mention their names.

02:13:24.000 You're anti-Semitic. 0.89

02:13:25.000 You become basically a Nazi. 0.99

02:13:27.000 And the thing is, it's funny that you talk about 100,000 Jewish children being killed and you're considered a Nazi.

02:13:33.000 The people who did it aren't.

02:13:35.000 Thanks for the call, Johnny.

02:13:36.000 I appreciate it.

02:13:37.000 I hope we gave you enough time for waiting so long.

02:13:39.000 But, Eric, do you understand my point here?

02:13:41.000 I know what you're saying.

02:13:42.000 We're all in the same situation of who's doing it exactly, and we only know certain people.

02:13:47.000 You know, like you said, Bush is in it, but then you also know the people like the media.

02:13:51.000 Isn't it convenient?

02:13:53.000 Isn't it, when the Zionists or the Jews are behind everything, isn't it convenient when you're able to bring that up, then, of course, you're discredited immediately? 0.97

02:14:03.000 It looks like a design to me to put people of the Jewish persuasion out front, to put people who are avowed Zionists out front as a cover for Presbyterians, Baptists, I mean we see some pretty strong Christians who are in control of things. 0.84

02:14:21.000 I know you've got people like Pat Robertson.

02:14:24.000 Well, yeah, see, I know there's a lot of people involved.

02:14:26.000 It's just that the only ones that really you get attacked for is if you mention the... Let me tell you, Eric, I guarantee you with the last few minutes of broadcasting we've done on this show, I'm going to get attacked.

02:14:38.000 I know exactly where to go look.

02:14:39.000 Did you hear what Jack Blood said today?

02:14:41.000 He's probably a Jew covering for the Zionists, okay? 0.99

02:14:44.000 So it works both ways, and it works very nicely for the New World Order. 0.98

02:14:48.000 Again, we're fighting each other over something as ridiculous as this, and I do think it's ridiculous. 0.99

02:14:54.000 Now we'll take Tom in California, and he'll tell me how small my cojones are. 0.99

02:14:58.000 Go ahead, Tom. 0.96

02:14:59.000 You're on the air.

02:15:00.000 Yeah, hey, Jack.

02:15:01.000 I was just calling to say I was from the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and we already anticipated the last call.

02:15:10.000 I'm glad to get on here and talk to Eric, because Eric, I want to say that you do some of the most, like, you're everywhere, and you were there from the start, and you're the most disrespected person in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:15:23.000 I've seen so many, like, I was there, and I met you once in San Francisco, At the Non-Living Inquiry there where they wouldn't let you speak.

02:15:30.000 Oh, right.

02:15:31.000 And then, you know, I heard that coast to coast and, you know, I mean, I appreciate George Norrie for everything, you know, for letting Alex on and things like that, but I thought that that was really... I'm with you on the moon thing.

02:15:40.000 I don't think we've been there.

02:15:41.000 I think that's... I think, well, I don't want to... Yeah, that's a side subject.

02:15:50.000 Eric certainly hasn't received the credibility I feel he deserves, but those of us who have been doing this for many, many years revere Eric Huffman and his initial work, which was the most comprehensive scientific analysis of what happened on 9-11.

02:16:04.000 Without this, we couldn't have built the rest of the case that we've been putting together these last few years.

02:16:10.000 And some of the articles you've written, like the one about if you want to get away with something, investigate yourself.

02:16:16.000 Oh, if you want to get away with crimes, pretend to be a crime fighter.

02:16:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:16:21.000 Things like that.

02:16:22.000 I mean, just really, like you've done a lot of work.

02:16:24.000 I catch you sometimes on, you know, with the French Connection, and I try to, you know, catch you anytime you're on any other programs.

02:16:30.000 And like I said, really appreciate all your work.

02:16:33.000 Well, just getting up, spreading it out, that's all we can do.

02:16:36.000 That's all we can really do.

02:16:38.000 Another good plug for the French Connection, which, by the way, folks, I believe is on the same time I'm on.

02:16:43.000 And I always tell people, go listen to that show because he does a good job.

02:16:47.000 And I really, you know, I'm very loose.

02:16:50.000 Eric, you've been on my program.

02:16:53.000 Very loose.

02:16:54.000 I'm trying to be a good boy doing the Alex Jones Show today, but I get very, very loose.

02:16:58.000 And we're not really a show for what you call so-called the Patriot Movement.

02:17:03.000 We're really a show for just everyday people out there.

02:17:06.000 And Daryl does a great job for people that want to hear Patriot information, and I highly recommend the show.

02:17:11.000 And I don't have any problem with people turning me off and going to listen to Daryl.

02:17:15.000 I think that's a great plug.

02:17:18.000 Maybe the next guy will plug in, too.

02:17:19.000 Hey, if I can make another suggestion, get a GCN membership for the archives, man.

02:17:23.000 That's how I can listen to it all.

02:17:26.000 Okay.

02:17:28.000 Or you can go to our forums where all of our shows are archived.

02:17:30.000 I don't publicize it.

02:17:31.000 That's where I just fell off the bridge.

02:17:33.000 We're going to come right back more with Eric Kufshman.

02:17:36.000 This interview is taking a very strange turn.

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02:21:44.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

02:21:52.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:21:55.000 Eric Huff Schmidt with us today.

02:22:05.000 Painful Questions is his perennial book, an analysis of the September 11th attack.

02:22:12.000 Eric, you've also done a lot of work, and I don't want to know if we want to go here today, but I just want to let people know that you've done a lot of work into this pedophilia rings that have been a part of our government for many, many years.

02:22:25.000 Oh, I just did a little bit.

02:22:26.000 I got a little video out there summarizing what Kay Griggs did and what Kay Griggs has said.

02:22:31.000 I only looked into it a little because it's You know, when I first heard about it, I was thinking, oh, this has got to be an exaggeration.

02:22:37.000 This is too wild.

02:22:39.000 But, you know, you look at Senator John DeCamp, you look at what... There's Jimmy Rothstein, there's a... I mean... The Jeff Gannon incident, of course, comes to mind.

02:22:49.000 Who?

02:22:49.000 The Jeff Gannon, Jeff Zucker incident, yeah.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, but you see, what's weird is every once in a while you'll see in the ordinary newspapers, like CNN or ABC, there'll also be a report about, um...

02:23:02.000 how these sex slaves are being bought and sold. 0.53

02:23:04.000 Yeah. 0.87

02:23:05.000 I mean, it's like, and they mention it, but then there's never any follow-ups.

02:23:09.000 It's obviously a very big operation, and there is no way people can be bought and sold like this, on this scale, without government protection.

02:23:19.000 There's no way!

02:23:20.000 And it certainly speaks to, you know, bribery.

02:23:23.000 Having something on your fellow politicians, on your fellow matrix moles, or new world order middle management, as I like to call them.

02:23:31.000 I mean, if you've got dirt on them, if they've been shacking up with, you know, little boys or little girls, you can control them, again, for the I'm writing a story now, Eric.

02:23:42.000 You'll be the first one I send it to.

02:23:43.000 I'm almost finished with it.

02:23:45.000 It talks about the definition of chicken hocks.

02:23:48.000 I've never really heard anybody mention this but you know when I came up on the street chicken hawk as it is used today had an entirely different meaning and what it meant was older men that preyed upon chicken they were considered little children.

02:24:01.000 So when we say chicken hawks I want people to understand it has a dual meaning and I've archived both the meaning and the war records of our leaders today as it pertains to the more recent Definition of chicken hawks and then also gone back through all of the various pedophile sex scandals over the last several Decades to again connect the two Oh yeah, the Chicken Hawk now, I always thought of it as, you didn't go to war, you just promoted it.

02:24:30.000 I know, and again, I'm surprised that the earlier definition hasn't come out more in the movement, as we like to call it, because again, that's the first time I ever heard Chicken Hawk, that's how I heard it used, was an older gentleman that preys on younger children.

02:24:44.000 Yeah, but that is apparently a big source of blackmail And you know what's interesting?

02:24:50.000 I was just talking to someone today.

02:24:51.000 They were having trouble ordering a book on my site.

02:24:55.000 And she brought up an interesting issue.

02:24:57.000 She's got a sister who's a lesbian. 1.00

02:24:59.000 And she says her sister has seen some of our White House personnel at the gay bars in Texas. 0.68

02:25:07.000 One of the things a lot of our government officials don't seem to realize is People see what they're doing.

02:25:13.000 Not everybody, but there are people seeing and they are talking about them.

02:25:17.000 They're not totally hidden from us.

02:25:20.000 You know, they go out into the same gay bars that some of the other people do.

02:25:24.000 They go out to the same supermarkets.

02:25:26.000 I've got eyewitnesses putting Karl Rove in some of those bars.

02:25:29.000 Exactly!

02:25:30.000 And see, this is the other thing.

02:25:33.000 They don't seem to realize.

02:25:34.000 They think they're being so sneaky.

02:25:36.000 Well, in some cases they are sneaky, but she was even saying, like, Karen Hughes, Scott McClellan, Scooter Libby, they're all involved in this.

02:25:45.000 And people are seeing them.

02:25:46.000 There's eyewitnesses out there.

02:25:48.000 Is it getting to a point where nobody gets up to a high position of power unless they have this kind of dirt on them?

02:25:54.000 That's what it looks like.

02:25:55.000 If you want to get involved, if you want to get promoted in the military, the government, the media, you've got to be somehow controllable.

02:26:05.000 It seems to extend to Hollywood, even.

02:26:07.000 And who knows where else?

02:26:08.000 You know, the whole music industry.

02:26:10.000 See, this is this criminal network that they are getting so much control.

02:26:14.000 It's like a fungus is growing and they're luring people into it.

02:26:17.000 And then as they destroy the economy, think of just Katrina.

02:26:21.000 How many people were just thrown out of work and lost everything they have.

02:26:25.000 Now you can come to them and say, well, you want some money?

02:26:27.000 Hey, just do this for us.

02:26:30.000 They can lure people into it and get more people trapped.

02:26:34.000 You see, this is how they can operate, and the more chaos they create, the more it helps them.

02:26:40.000 They thrive on this chaos, they thrive on the hatred, they thrive on the crime.

02:26:45.000 It helps them, and the only way we're going to be able to stop it is by exposing this all, and telling people, you know, we don't have to live this way.

02:26:53.000 Well, and also, I mean, look, this is part of farming a new generation of people who go along with the New World Order, who go along with global government, who go along with all this anti-terrorism and the taking of our rights and replacing them with privileges.

02:26:53.000 That's right.

02:27:07.000 You know, you get the children.

02:27:09.000 That's why we have No Child Left Behind.

02:27:11.000 When they say No Child Left Behind, folks, they mean it.

02:27:14.000 And we've got to get out there and educate future generations in order to fight this good fight.

02:27:18.000 We'll come right back, and dare we, go right back into your calls with Eric Huff Schmidt.

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02:31:01.000 One of the things I think works really well when you're going out to people on the street and you're trying to get them interested in all of the research that you've done, certainly 9-11 is a precipice.

02:31:14.000 It works very, very well.

02:31:16.000 And I've seen people like Phil Jahan rove around with clipboards full of pictures.

02:31:22.000 And he simply shows people pictures, asks very simple questions, and then gets a response from his, let's call him a prospect.

02:31:30.000 Maybe a stranger on the street that you're trying to relay this information to.

02:31:34.000 And if you're not doing that, you're really not fighting the info war.

02:31:36.000 You don't want to be preaching to the choir, folks.

02:31:38.000 You want to get out there and get new people and put this information in front of them because they're just dying to see it.

02:31:44.000 And I think one of the best things you can use to do this, to put together your own little slideshow with a few very simple Socrates-type questions for people, is this book I'm holding in my hand now, Painful Questions, an analysis of the September 11th attack.

02:32:00.000 You can get that by calling 888-253-3139.

02:32:04.000 That's the InfoWars hotline. 888-253-3139.

02:32:08.000 888-253-3139.

02:32:08.000 And there are some great full-color pictures.

02:32:12.000 There are some great schematical designs that will show you exactly how the World Trade Center towers were built and why they couldn't have been taken down by fires and an airplane.

02:32:22.000 And I really, really insist that you get this book if you haven't gotten it already.

02:32:26.000 You can go to Infowars.com or 888-253-3139.

02:32:27.000 And Eric, if you'd like to give out your website?

02:32:32.000 Oh, they could just go to HugeQuestions.com.

02:32:34.000 That's the easiest one to remember.

02:32:36.000 Huge, H-U-G-E, and then Questions.com.

02:32:39.000 I'm looking at a picture now.

02:32:40.000 This is the one when I first got your book a few years ago.

02:32:43.000 This is the one that really stood out to me.

02:32:46.000 The buildings fell because of these massive fires, as we're being told, but yet in the middle of the area where the plane hit the North Tower, the picture in your book, full-color picture, shows people standing in the hole minutes after the disaster.

02:33:01.000 Oh yeah, people are walking around up there.

02:33:04.000 See, that's a sign.

02:33:05.000 This is, again, when people argue that the towers fell down with fire.

02:33:09.000 You can show them this picture and tell people, look, people are walking around up here.

02:33:14.000 The firemen also made it up to the fire zone of both towers.

02:33:18.000 If people are walking around, it can't be much hotter than a hot summer day.

02:33:23.000 Therefore, How could those buildings come down?

02:33:25.000 Just because there's a few hot spots, that's not going to bring a building down.

02:33:28.000 The woman holding on to the actual structure itself, obviously not too hot to hold on to, standing in this giant hole made in the North Tower. 0.94

02:33:38.000 Yeah, it's shocking.

02:33:40.000 But see, that's one of the things, like you mentioned, Phil can go out there with this picture.

02:33:43.000 Phil's got the personality that He's got about a 99% conversion rate.

02:33:47.000 If you've got his personality, what you can do is take a book like that and show people the picture and talk to them.

02:33:53.000 Most people can't do it.

02:33:54.000 People say, well, what can we do?

02:33:55.000 Well, if you've got his personality, what you can do is you take a book like that and show people the picture and talk to them.

02:34:02.000 Most people can't do it.

02:34:03.000 I couldn't do it.

02:34:04.000 Well, I've done it myself, and you're right.

02:34:07.000 You do need to be a little bit of an extrovert to just walk up to a stranger and start trying to convince them that 9-11 was an inside job. 0.98

02:34:14.000 I mean, talk about having cojones. 1.00

02:34:17.000 Phil has gone to the guard tower guards at the White House. 0.98

02:34:21.000 He's gone knocking on the door at the Pentagon and then various embassies doing this exact same thing.

02:34:27.000 Well, I know.

02:34:27.000 He did this for us in Tampa, Miami, Florida, when Jimmy Walter had that meeting.

02:34:31.000 We had almost nobody in the theater.

02:34:34.000 Fortunately, Phil was out there, and he's like, come on, Phil, get out there into the street and start bringing people in!

02:34:40.000 He will be unleashed here in Austin, Texas, any day now.

02:34:43.000 I know he's on his way down here.

02:34:45.000 I want to get to the rest of these calls, dare I?

02:34:47.000 Yes, I do dare.

02:34:48.000 But quickly, tell us about the core columns.

02:34:51.000 Did the airplane destroy the core columns?

02:34:54.000 What were the core columns?

02:34:55.000 Give us a good few-minute analysis on that, if you would, Eric.

02:34:58.000 Well, those core columns were, there's 47 of them in the center of the building.

02:35:03.000 236 on the outside, but those core columns in the center, 47 of them, they're rectangles.

02:35:09.000 If you were to take a cross-section, they're not I-beams or H-beams, they're like boxes, they're rectangles.

02:35:15.000 And they varied in thickness from the bottom of the building to about four inches thick to the top, about a quarter of an inch.

02:35:22.000 And they're so massive, you can see that if you have my book on page 23, you can see some of the pictures.

02:35:28.000 Four inch thick wall, think of a rectangle maybe two to three feet and big rectangles, walls four inches thick.

02:35:37.000 I mean, this is massive.

02:35:39.000 And then it's not just vertical columns.

02:35:42.000 A lot of people think, well, it's just vertical columns, like a bunch of toothpicks standing up on edge.

02:35:47.000 Well, every 12 feet, there was a floor.

02:35:50.000 And every floor is a mesh of steel beams again.

02:35:55.000 And then-- What I'm getting at here is that the planes would have had to knock out all of the core columns in order to allow the pancake theory to take place.

02:36:04.000 Well, plus, yeah, they would have to knock out... Somehow, all of those core columns would have to break simultaneously for that... What we saw with the North Tower, the North Tower, the top of it just fell down right on top of the floor below it.

02:36:17.000 That means every one of those columns had to break at once.

02:36:20.000 And all of the outside columns also, because even without the inside ones, you're still...

02:36:26.000 You've still got 236 running around the outside.

02:36:29.000 And this is why Kevin Ryan from Underwriters United, I think that's the term, they were providing some of the insurance for the World Trade Center towers, had to come out and actually lose his job saying, it was impossible, these buildings were meant to withstand massive impacts from airplanes, they were built to withstand fire and wind and storms and hurricanes, it is impossible for them to have fallen in the way, shape and manner that the government has told us that they did.

02:36:54.000 Yeah, I think it was Underwriters Laboratory, I can't remember.

02:36:57.000 But you're right, the steel, the winter storms were more severe than this.

02:37:02.000 That's why if you listen to the people who came out of the towers, when they described the airplanes crashing into them, they said, yeah, we felt it sway a little bit.

02:37:11.000 But then they'll say, "Yeah, winter storms were worse than this in some cases." Yeah, and let me just go back to something you said a minute ago, because it just came into my brain.

02:37:19.000 I've got to get this out there.

02:37:20.000 I mean, maybe you don't have a personality to take a book like Painful Questions and make a cohesive argument and really convince people, but what you can do is get this book and you could just open up the page and go, "You know, Aunt June, what I don't understand is that this fire was so hot.

02:37:37.000 Why is a person standing in this giant hole?" And you could just play dumb and show people these pictures, and I think you'll really make an impact.

02:37:45.000 Yeah, that's what some people will also do. 0.91

02:37:46.000 It's like, how did they walk around here?

02:37:48.000 Or how did they do this?

02:37:50.000 That's another thing.

02:37:51.000 And you can also show how it collapsed.

02:37:53.000 You know, all the dust pouring out.

02:37:55.000 Like, where did this come from?

02:37:57.000 Well, let me tell you, the TSA was so interested in your book, Eric, when I took it to New York with me, it was still in its shrink wrap, I think, and they decided to open it up and read it, to take it out of my luggage and start reading it.

02:38:09.000 So they were very interested in what you had to say as well.

02:38:09.000 Oh, great!

02:38:12.000 Well, as long as they didn't give you the full-body cavity... Oh, no, no, I got the 5-star, 5S search on that tour.

02:38:20.000 I travel without identification, so it's always an adventure whenever I get on an airplane.

02:38:25.000 Let's go to Andy in North Carolina.

02:38:28.000 Andy, thank you for holding.

02:38:29.000 You're on the Alex Jones Program.

02:38:31.000 Hey, great to be here.

02:38:32.000 We're out of chaos, right?

02:38:33.000 Yes.

02:38:34.000 Yes.

02:38:35.000 Hey, look, I was just wanting to let you know, Jack, my wife loves it when you sit in for Alex.

02:38:39.000 Frankly, as much as she loves him, he scares her.

02:38:41.000 Well, she must be a hell of a woman, I'll tell you that. 1.00

02:38:44.000 Well, she's very well informed, but when he starts into the You Global Fascist Nightmare Police Thing Hell Hole! 0.97

02:38:44.000 She is. 0.97

02:38:51.000 I love it.

02:38:52.000 I came up on that and if it weren't for Alex... I mean, here's what one person can do.

02:38:56.000 Before Alex Jones, I didn't take any of this stuff seriously.

02:39:00.000 Alex Jones, you know, came into my life.

02:39:02.000 It changed my life dramatically.

02:39:04.000 And now I've been one person going out and affecting thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

02:39:08.000 So one person can be very, very potent.

02:39:11.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

02:39:12.000 Alex came into my life right after I read Dark Majesty by Tex Marr.

02:39:16.000 He's the one that turned me on to all of this.

02:39:18.000 It was in like 1994 and I read that book and I was like, oh my God, you know, it really woke me up.

02:39:22.000 What I was going to say to Eric is that Eric's Painful Questions has got to be probably one of the best outlined films and books describing what happened on 9-11.

02:39:31.000 And one of the tools that I use, the two most effective tools that I've found, or the PNAC documents, which pretty much just outlines what these evil people were up to.

02:39:39.000 In Pearl Harbor, yeah.

02:39:40.000 Yeah, and then they all get into office, and then they turn their back in 9-11.

02:39:44.000 I mean, all of them have to go, and I don't know what happened.

02:39:46.000 And the person's down there reading the book story.

02:39:48.000 There's some kids, and we just don't know what happened.

02:39:51.000 The whole military failed, but we're sorry.

02:39:53.000 Inconfidence, right.

02:39:54.000 Exactly.

02:39:55.000 But the one thing that I found in people's questions that really wake people up, and I'm pretty sure I'm citing the right film, is the company that did the cleanup of the World Trade Centers actually specialized in blowing up, demolishing buildings to where they actually, the sizes fit on trucks, Am I right?

02:40:11.000 Right, that controlled demolition is one of them.

02:40:13.000 Yeah, and you really should have hammered that on George Norton.

02:40:16.000 I hate what happened, because I think what y'all were talking about earlier, you break off more than you can chew.

02:40:20.000 Well, they want to support the government theory, you see.

02:40:22.000 That radio show, if you look at who controls them, it's Clear Channel.

02:40:27.000 You look at all of our media.

02:40:28.000 Yeah.

02:40:29.000 I think George was just trying to be, and just so you know, I'm not I mean, I like George.

02:40:33.000 We listen to him quite a bit.

02:40:34.000 We love Alex.

02:40:35.000 And I think that he was trying to be, you know, objective to get you, because the burden of proof was on you.

02:40:39.000 Yeah, but at the same time, you've got to remember that no media outlet, except besides maybe Genesis and a few others, they're not going to talk about this.

02:40:48.000 No, no, I agree.

02:40:49.000 I've heard that and I don't want to be confrontational because I love your work.

02:40:53.000 Also, in the defense of George Noria, I mean, look, it's not as easy to get on that show with all of its affiliates and, as you say, Clear Channel and Premier syndicators.

02:41:01.000 It's not as easy to put this stuff out there as it might even be for somebody like me.

02:41:05.000 That's right.

02:41:07.000 And poor Eric was trying to tie in JFK, 9-11, and the moon.

02:41:11.000 I mean, it was too much.

02:41:12.000 It's like you're sitting there trying to convince somebody about 9-11 and all of a sudden you start going in. 0.99

02:41:16.000 These guys around the country are actually homosexual, pedophile, posited, you know, devil worshippers. 0.95

02:41:21.000 I mean, even though we all know that, it just blows people's minds, because you've got to understand, these people are from the Shawnee and the everyday. 0.95

02:41:29.000 People don't get to hear this information, even on Coast to Coast, so when Eric is on, no matter how, what kind of a job he does, the information is so potent, it is so important, that there are millions of people out there hearing it going, yeah, yeah, that makes sense, I got it now.

02:41:44.000 Yeah, exactly, and that's why I hate it sometimes.

02:41:46.000 If you think you get beat up, Eric, man, y'all are the poor David Icke.

02:41:50.000 The older I get, the more I'm starting to convince you.

02:41:53.000 Look, I'm a 35-year-old human, and I see what these people do, and I'm starting to believe they're not human either. 0.63

02:41:57.000 They very well might be some shape-shifting reptilian blood-sucking... I don't know what they are, but they can't be human.

02:42:03.000 So, you know, take a little comfort in that.

02:42:06.000 But anyways, you have great... I've seen a lot of painful deceptions.

02:42:09.000 One thing I just want to say real fast, I just want to let you know that your driver's license here has been federalized.

02:42:15.000 I got a ticket in 1990 in Arizona.

02:42:18.000 I went to go renew my license the other day, and they told me because of the federal registry, I cannot get my driver's license now.

02:42:23.000 So I'm sitting here in a battle with Arizona's DND.

02:42:25.000 And they take your driver's license away.

02:42:27.000 I lost mine initially because I didn't renew the tags on my car.

02:42:30.000 I didn't even get a ticket.

02:42:31.000 I wasn't even pulled over.

02:42:33.000 They yanked my... I had a 25 year Arizona license, okay?

02:42:36.000 DND for 25 years. 0.64

02:42:38.000 And I'm thinking, because I'm just an ignorant fool at that point, Well, I don't have to go get another license if I don't lose this for 25 years and I don't, you know, get in any trouble. 0.90

02:42:46.000 Well, I didn't get in any trouble. 0.94

02:42:47.000 I lost my license and I'm in a national database in every state in the country.

02:42:51.000 Wow.

02:42:52.000 Unbelievable.

02:42:52.000 We're not buying registration tags for the car I didn't drive in Arizona.

02:42:56.000 One quick thing, one last thing is definitely when you're talking to neophytes or whatever, definitely pound on the size of the structures and the way they fell.

02:43:05.000 And I think Eric has a really good overhead shot where you see them and it looks like Legos.

02:43:09.000 and they're out there in the exact same size, and all of a sudden these trucks whisk them away and never to be investigated because we already have a predrawn conclusion that Osama did it or Oswald did it, and we're going to make the evidence spit out.

02:43:20.000 Well, we did find that passport that floated down with the burning flames, which they later, of course, retracted.

02:43:26.000 I love to throw that in.

02:43:27.000 Well, that's a good call, Andy.

02:43:28.000 Thanks.

02:43:29.000 You cheered me up a little bit.

02:43:30.000 I appreciate it.

02:43:31.000 And kiss your wife for me, please. 0.98

02:43:32.000 Tell her I'm very appreciative of any listeners I can certainly get.

02:43:37.000 You know, Eric, going back to the calls here real quick.

02:43:40.000 But, of course, the cover-up in any criminal investigation, the act of the cover-up almost is the best evidence you can use.

02:43:48.000 When you look at the JFK assassination, for instance, I like to tell people about the cover-up.

02:43:53.000 When I talk about 9-11, I like to start with World Trade Center 93, a known FBI sting operation that went wrong through what?

02:44:00.000 Incompetence.

02:44:01.000 And then I move to the cover-up.

02:44:02.000 And when you have a cover-up, obviously somebody's got something to hide.

02:44:06.000 Oh yeah, and with the World Trade Center collapse, they really did a cover-up, because immediately they started hauling away all of the rubble, and Fire Engineering Magazines is even complaining.

02:44:19.000 In their magazine to fire departments.

02:44:20.000 This is illegal.

02:44:21.000 You can't take that rubble away.

02:44:23.000 It's got to be investigated.

02:44:26.000 I believe I've heard that, you know, they kept some of the rubble to analyze and they sent out the other pieces of girders and whatnot and iron and steel went to become ashtrays in China at some slave labor Walmart factory.

02:44:38.000 So, I mean, you keep all the evidence, you spend a lot of money, all the money it takes.

02:44:42.000 I mean, the GD war right now in Iraq alone is costing us, according to Joseph Stiglitz, upwards to two to three trillion dollars, okay?

02:44:52.000 We could have saved a little money, potentially, if we would have investigated 9-11 and found that Saddam Hussein really didn't do it.

02:44:58.000 Right, and that war is doing more than just wasting our money. 0.98

02:45:02.000 It's wasting our resources, destroying our economy, ruining our reputation around the world.

02:45:06.000 Absolutely.

02:45:06.000 By design.

02:45:07.000 We are the bad cop, folks.

02:45:09.000 I mean, that's why you listen to a program like this and you think, well, they must be a bunch of liberals.

02:45:13.000 They must hate America.

02:45:14.000 No, we love America and the people that are currently ruling over America are intent on creating us as the bad cop and the UN as the good cop.

02:45:23.000 We've been saying that for years.

02:45:24.000 I've got a couple of calls left here to get to.

02:45:26.000 I want everybody to go quick and to be as concise and quick as possible.

02:45:30.000 Reuben in Ohio.

02:45:31.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show with Eric Huffschmid.

02:45:34.000 Hey, Eric, your website erichaushman.net is excellent.

02:45:37.000 There's a picture of a car bomb on there.

02:45:40.000 Jack, I think that's the same car bomb, that giant hole that Harifa Zee was assassinated on?

02:45:48.000 Oh, the one from Lebanon? 0.99

02:45:49.000 There was one of them, I might have that one, yeah.

02:45:51.000 The giant, giant hole.

02:45:53.000 They did the Khobar Towers is also like that. 0.91

02:45:55.000 It's even bigger at the Khobar Towers.

02:45:58.000 And see, this is again, they're telling you these are terrorists with car bombs.

02:46:02.000 And look at this.

02:46:03.000 Excavating swimming pool sized holes!

02:46:06.000 That's not what... Sure, and in Iraq, you know, small improvised explosive devices are blowing 70 ton tanks or whatever onto their backs.

02:46:14.000 So, yeah, the math does not add up.

02:46:16.000 Thanks for the call, Ruben.

02:46:17.000 I appreciate you holding.

02:46:18.000 Let's go to Troy in Florida.

02:46:20.000 Troy, you're on the Alex Jones Show.

02:46:22.000 Hey, how are you today, Jack?

02:46:23.000 Very good.

02:46:24.000 Eric?

02:46:24.000 Hi.

02:46:25.000 Nice job, Eric, on the New Pearl Harbor.

02:46:27.000 I was at the December 7th show.

02:46:31.000 One question I had is William Rodriguez's story.

02:46:33.000 Is that on any of the 9-11 videos that are out?

02:46:37.000 Not yet.

02:46:38.000 He's hoping to put something together.

02:46:40.000 See, this is one of the problems.

02:46:41.000 He's had trouble even getting people to co-op, you know, that will help him out.

02:46:45.000 But he's hoping to get something eventually.

02:46:48.000 Just remember, William Rodriguez was a hero, like Richard Jewel.

02:46:52.000 He was a hero in 9-11.

02:46:55.000 Yeah, he's got a very interesting story, but you can see why they don't want him.

02:46:57.000 and meddled by President Bush.

02:46:59.000 And he eventually realized that people didn't want to hear what he had to say.

02:47:04.000 He got a little suspicious, and since then he's been out telling his story.

02:47:07.000 And I think that does need to be documented in the highest fashion, Eric. - Yeah, he's got a very interesting story, but you can see why they don't want him, you know, the way he talks about the explosives and what's going on.

02:47:18.000 And plus, he's also a victim of breathing that demolition debris, which a lot of people don't realize.

02:47:23.000 There are people still dying, 'cause that stuff was not dust.

02:47:26.000 It was pulverized windows, fax machines, people.

02:47:30.000 Concrete, and his lungs are now much worse.

02:47:34.000 Highly toxic material, which is still there, by the way, and being covered up by the EPA, as we speak.

02:47:41.000 Yeah, and there are people dying, still.

02:47:44.000 Stuart in New York, I guess you'll be the tail gunner today.

02:47:46.000 Final call on the Alex Jones Program.

02:47:48.000 You're on the air with Eric Hopschnitt.

02:47:49.000 Thank you, Eric.

02:47:50.000 Thank you so much for your book, and Jack, for having guests like Eric on.

02:47:55.000 My birthday is 9-11, so I take this all very seriously.

02:47:58.000 And being from New York, I lost at least one friend in the towers.

02:48:03.000 Two questions really quick.

02:48:04.000 Number one, there's going to come a point in time, I refer to it as critical mass, when even the media can no longer ignore the truth of this.

02:48:13.000 And I was wondering, How far do you feel we are away from that?

02:48:16.000 And number two, regarding the Zionist issue, I would think that they would be the last people who would want to be totally involved with this, because somebody looking at it would see that they would be the ones who are likely to benefit from it. 0.97

02:48:30.000 Well, yeah, they're always tearing on the edge, but of course they were involved.

02:48:33.000 What capacity, I guess, is something that we need to analyze.

02:48:36.000 We'll come right back, answer Stewart's questions and final segment on the Alex Jones Show program today.

02:48:41.000 Eric Huffschmidt with us, Jack Blood with you, stay tuned.

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02:52:11.000 And Bloody War and Liberty for their descendants.

02:52:16.000 Thanks to the Renegades.

02:52:20.000 Thanks to the Renegades, Renegade Broadcasting, Renegade listeners, Renegade guests, you're in the right place, folks.

02:52:27.000 And it doesn't take everybody to make the move.

02:52:31.000 Only a very small ragtag band has initially declared independence for this country against King George I.

02:52:39.000 It was all it really took.

02:52:41.000 Some might dispute that, but that's what I happen to believe in.

02:52:44.000 Eric Stewart in New York asked about when is this going to hit critical mass.

02:52:49.000 Do you have an answer to that question?

02:52:50.000 No, I actually don't.

02:52:52.000 Are we in critical mass now, or do we have a ways to go?

02:52:55.000 Well, it looks like we have a ways to go still.

02:52:57.000 It is moving though.

02:52:58.000 If you look at it, it's moving.

02:52:59.000 Exactly when something will break, I don't know.

02:53:02.000 When you see people, people of London for instance, you know, backing off, you know, they had the 7-7 bombings there, you'd think that they were going to institute all kinds of draconian legislation and the people have said no.

02:53:12.000 It seems to me that at least the environment here in this country says that the people are standing up against some of these more draconian measures of legislation which centralizes government and brings us that new world order.

02:53:23.000 I mean, have we already reached critical mass or does something bad have to happen again to take us all the way there?

02:53:29.000 I don't know.

02:53:29.000 It does seem to me that we're not there yet, and it does look like something that's going to have to get worse, because I don't see enough people.

02:53:36.000 They're still ignoring it.

02:53:37.000 The average person still has a TV and a job.

02:53:40.000 They are still...

02:53:42.000 Ignoring it, I think it might have to get a little worse still.

02:53:46.000 No doubt in my mind, also another question by Stuart, no doubt in my mind the Mossad was involved in 9-11.

02:53:51.000 To what capacity, I don't know.

02:53:52.000 I tend to think they were more plumbers than anything else, but can you see the day when this all comes out and Bush and Cheney are off the hook and they act very surprised that Israel would have done this to us? 0.85

02:54:04.000 Well yeah, you bring up a good point.

02:54:06.000 You can see a lot of people are involved.

02:54:08.000 Mossad, there's Christians, there's probably atheists, there may even be Muslims.

02:54:12.000 Exactly what role everyone played, exactly who's the boss... Who do we pin it on?

02:54:17.000 Let's pin it on somebody before we end the show today.

02:54:19.000 It's hard to pin it on, you can only say certain things.

02:54:22.000 You can say, for example... Jenny and Rumsfeld certainly knew.

02:54:25.000 Right, they knew it.

02:54:26.000 And then you can say the media executives, the new houses and the...

02:54:29.000 You know, there's a whole bunch of these people.

02:54:33.000 Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch.

02:54:35.000 Right, you can say all these people are somehow involved in the cover-up.

02:54:39.000 You can say Dov Zuckheim was probably involved in the missing trillions from the Pentagon, and who knows what other role he played in.

02:54:47.000 And you can see a lot of these people are Richard Silverstein, Pataki, Rudy Giuliani.

02:54:53.000 You know, they're not all Jewish, they're not all Americans, but you can see We don't know exactly what role they all play, but we can get a lot of people.

02:55:02.000 I love Webster Tarpley's take on this, and his great book about 9-11 is a must-have as well.

02:55:08.000 And he lays it all out, is that, you know, look, I don't want to just say it's a shadow government, it's an invisible government.

02:55:14.000 Here are the key players that coordinate world government, and the George Bushes of the world, the Dick Cheneys of the world, the Ariel Sharon's of the world, the Tony Blair's of the world can't make a move without authorization and planning from upstairs.

02:55:28.000 Yeah, it's just that upstairs.

02:55:29.000 Who's the upstairs?

02:55:30.000 The Rothschilds might be involved at the top level.

02:55:32.000 The Windsors, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Hapsburgs. 0.82

02:55:35.000 Oh, that's right.

02:55:35.000 Kissingers, too.

02:55:36.000 You see, and you've got a lot of them.

02:55:38.000 And see, what causes trouble is a lot of those people at the top are calling themselves Jewish, and then that's when you get this anti-Semitism charge thrown in.

02:55:46.000 We're moving hard to the end and we've run out of time, Eric.

02:55:50.000 We could easily do another four hours with you.

02:55:52.000 It's been a real honor and a privilege to have you on.

02:55:54.000 Painful Questions is the book everybody should get.

02:55:57.000 I'll be right back in a few minutes with Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, who ran Abu Ghraib prison.

02:56:03.000 She'll be live with us in about a half an hour on Deadline Live, my program.

02:56:07.000 I'll be back tomorrow with Paul Joseph Watson on the Alex Jones Show.

02:56:10.000 Now get out there and go fight the New World Order!

Alex Jones Show - January 24, 2006

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